1 00:01:36,810 --> 00:01:42,890 A new sun rises, and as darkness falls, a shooting star blazes 2 00:01:42,890 --> 00:01:46,170 across the sky. I kind of feel like the entire 3 00:01:46,170 --> 00:01:49,530 fandom saw that shooting star and we all got the luck 4 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,160 contained therein because it's a great debut for a night of the 5 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Seven Kingdoms. Almost everyone is very pleased 6 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,080 or extremely pleased. Most of the Phantom seems 7 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,000 overjoyed with the reaction results, and so are we. 8 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,440 It's the Hedge Night coming to the big screen, and it's great. 9 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,600 There's a lot of direct quotes from the Hedge Night in this 10 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,640 first episode. A lot of things are almost word 11 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:16,360 for word, actual word for word in a few cases. 12 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,360 George R Martin calls it a faithful adaptation. 13 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,200 I can definitely see why having seen this first episode. 14 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,440 There is a lot of new dialogue, but they managed to add things 15 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,280 without subtracting from the original. 16 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,200 It was more like filling in rather than a lot of changes. 17 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,000 They certainly leaned into comedy and that seemed to work. 18 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,200 They certainly had a lot of great jokes mixed in. 19 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:45,680 This episode will have a spoiler free first portion and a spoiler 20 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,560 filled second-half and it will contain a Shaya, Sean and myself 21 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:54,240 Aziz, all that and more on this episode of History of Westeros 22 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:01,360 podcast. Hello and welcome everybody. 23 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,880 It's the beginning of a new season of a new show. 24 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,160 There's really nothing like a season 1 episode 1, is there? 25 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,280 Especially when it goes well and well, we we've had a good record 26 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,560 of those so far. In general, the first episodes 27 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,720 have been good, so let's get to it. 28 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,080 First of a few scheduling notes first for how we're going to 29 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,680 handle this season. We are going to be at our usual 30 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,680 live stream TV show spot of 6 Eastern on Mondays. 31 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:31,080 We will occasionally have a preview stream on Friday. 32 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,400 We used to do this on Saturday, but they're going to be Friday 33 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:37,520 and it will be around 5:30 Eastern, so a little before this 34 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,520 one and then right after that. Those of you who want more can 35 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,120 catch my game streams on Twitch, which are a Dunkin Egg game 36 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,720 stream. Right now we're doing Dunkin Egg 37 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,440 on Crusader Kings Three. They have been specifically put 38 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,040 into the game and it's a lot of fun. 39 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,120 We just started it last week, so come join out. twitch.tv/history 40 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,120 of Westeros. Also very important, very 41 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,200 timely, and very much are looking for your help on this 42 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,800 one. Please join the World Science 43 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,760 Fiction Society by January 31st to nominate U.S. history of 44 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Westeros in the best related work. 45 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,480 It's our Ragnarok versus the Long Night episode. 46 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,160 That's what that's the episode that we're submitting. 47 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,640 For 50 bucks you get the packet of everything on the ballot. 48 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,440 So many books, there's so many books and a lot of art, meaning 49 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,120 every book that's nominated for best novel, things like that. 50 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,320 You also get to do your own nominating and of course, voting 51 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,160 and if you actually attend World Con, which will be in Anaheim 52 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,320 this year in 2026. So it's a lot more accessible 53 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,600 for a lot of us. You can upgrade your membership 54 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,000 then. So once again, everything is in 55 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,400 the description, but we would very much appreciate your 56 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,360 support to get on the ballot. We'd love to be a Hugo nominee. 57 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,960 Ragnarok versus a long night. That's that. 58 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,960 If you have questions about this episode, you can hit us up live 59 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,200 hopefully if you're here, but if not, hit us up at Wistro's 60 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,680 history@gmail.com or hit us up on any of our socials. 61 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,920 We'd love to hear from you on what you liked most, didn't 62 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,400 like, favorite performances, Easter eggs, callbacks, things 63 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,760 like that. You never know what we missed 64 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,800 and we just want to hear from y'all. 65 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,600 Anyway, we certainly noticed a lot of Easter eggs in this first 66 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,680 episode and at the end of the episode we will mention a few 67 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,920 others that relate to this one real quickly. 68 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,800 What does spoilers and non spoilers mean in this case? 69 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Non spoilers means the equivalent book scenes only and 70 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,560 not anything hidden between the lines there, only the the basic 71 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,680 carryover things that haven't happened yet on screen. 72 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,400 We won't talk about the book version of that. 73 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,520 So it's pretty straightforward in that regard. 74 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,200 In terms of what spoilers includes, well, that includes 75 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,160 everything. That means everything in the 76 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,360 novel, all the lore, all our theories that we have or don't 77 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,560 have, and trailers as well. There's a rest of season trailer 78 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,360 that was at the end of the episode and that had some things 79 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,760 in it that we will talk about in the second-half. 80 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,640 Can I say real quick about that? I almost feel like if you 81 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,520 haven't read the books, you should avoid that trailer. 82 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,000 I feel like you gave away too much. 83 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,360 I won't get into that of course, but I would say if you're liking 84 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,840 a show and haven't seen the rest of the season trailer, just hold 85 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,760 out for the rest of the show. That's my advice. 86 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,960 I agree with that, Sean. Very, very good point. 87 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,840 All right, so trivia question which we will reveal the answer 88 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:24,600 to at the end. Sir Arlen of Penny Tree Dunks 89 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:28,080 Master fought for Sir Manfred Dondarian's father. 90 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,920 Against what foe? Who do they fight against? 91 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,160 I know this one. I'm pretty sure I know this one. 92 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,440 All right, you'll find out at the end if you're right and a 93 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,480 poll which is live now for those of you watching on YouTube. 94 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,440 But if you're catching the episode on Spotify, you can vote 95 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,520 as well. Who was your favorite 96 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,480 performance? Not counting Dunk and Egg 97 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,920 themselves and the possibilities are Daniel Ings AKA Sir Lionel 98 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,920 Baratheon, Shawn Thomas, and Edward Ashley as a combo. 99 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,080 Those were the 2 fossil ways. Raymond and Stefan Plumber, the 100 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,440 steward, that's Tom von Lawler. And then our four sex workers, 101 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Rowan Robinson, Carla Harrison Hodge, Abigail Oregon and Ellie 102 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,480 McHale Row. Now there's a lot of people in 103 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,920 that list just now that have hyphenated names. 104 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,800 So what's? Worth. 105 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,200 I just put the character names 'cause it's way too long to put 106 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,320 the actor names in the poll. Yeah, anyway, so that's who they 107 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,440 are, but take your pick there and we'll have more of these 108 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,400 throughout the season. Thanks to Corn Emperor for the 109 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,960 Super chat. Yeah, it is on. 110 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,240 You are absolutely right. Let's get going to the first 111 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,480 scene. It very much aligns with the 112 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,720 first scene of the book. What we'll do here is have a lot 113 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,520 of the quotes that that parallel that and then discuss them. 114 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,000 I really appreciate the setting on this one, like the visuals 115 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,800 you've got the the big mountain in the background, wide open 116 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,840 space and the makes it hard actually to tell what a big man 117 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Dunk is. There's nobody he's next to, you 118 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,440 know, they're only the horses and he's not really right next 119 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,480 to them. So that doesn't really come 120 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,120 apparent until he comes up the egg, which makes it very 121 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,160 apparent. Anyway, let's have the quote 122 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,520 from the first scene of the book. 123 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,200 The spring rains had softened the ground, so Dunk had no 124 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,120 trouble digging the grave. He chose a spot on the western 125 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,480 slope of a low hill, for the old man had always loved to watch 126 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,560 the sunset. You learn a lot from that line, 127 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,280 and you learn a lot from how Dunk carries himself during this 128 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,840 moment. He is taking care. 129 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,520 He's doing what Sir Ellen would have wanted. 130 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,040 He's, you know, conscientious. He's empathetic even to a dead 131 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,120 person, Right? And Sean, his first line here is 132 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,320 I don't have the right words, which really is a really good 133 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,400 way to start off Dunk, isn't it? It is. 134 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,480 I had that written down in my notes that that was a, a great 135 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,280 way to to frame the show, to set things off. 136 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,160 And it also I, I got to be careful because they don't want 137 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,720 to spoil things. But there is this sentiment, I 138 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,360 think of fans that Dunk isn't that smart. 139 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:57,720 Dunk himself says, you know, he's thick as a castle wall. 140 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,280 And maybe because Arlen told him that. 141 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,920 And I think George Martin even said that he's not the brightest 142 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,920 character he's ever written. However, Martin has written 143 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,520 hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of characters. 144 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,800 You know what I mean? So Dunk could be outside the top 145 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,240 10% and not be the brightest, but that doesn't mean he's dumb. 146 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,600 And I, I have that thought sometimes that Dunk is smarter 147 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,680 than he gets credit for. He's smart in a, I'm going to 148 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:26,320 say intelligent way as opposed to an educated way. 149 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,680 Like, I think his mind is clever enough to figure things out, but 150 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:32,080 he just doesn't have the knowledge of reading or, you 151 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,840 know, world experience or whatever else. 152 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:39,080 So maybe combine that with some naivete and I think we get, you 153 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,760 know, done being thought of as as unintelligent. 154 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,680 But I don't think that's true. I don't think it's fair. 155 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,040 But that's why I like this quote so much because it says I don't 156 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,280 have the right words. He like he if he had a better 157 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,640 vocabulary, he would say something better here, but he 158 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,160 just doesn't have a better vocabulary. 159 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,720 But he still has I don't know what what word to use exactly. 160 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Enlightened thoughts, you know, deep emotions, whatever. 161 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,640 He just doesn't have the good vocabulary to say them. 162 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,600 Here and in many other spots throughout the series, I I. 163 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,440 Totally agree. I think maybe it to put it 164 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,800 simply, he doesn't have the right words, but he does the 165 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,480 right things. Oh. 166 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Nice. You know, he has emotional 167 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,520 intelligence, I think, right? Even if he doesn't, you know, 168 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,480 have St. smarts or what have what have you. 169 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,760 So he tries to say the right things, right? 170 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,160 He doesn't. He's not taciturn. 171 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,800 It's not like he gives up on talking. 172 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,840 He keeps trying. So that's that's something you 173 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,080 can appreciate about him, too. And I think a lot of people can 174 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,320 relate to that. You know, how many of us, you 175 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,400 know, a day later, an hour later, a week later, realize 176 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,400 what we could have said? I'm like, oh, I could have said 177 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,120 it that way. You know, I think, yeah, I bet 178 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,840 Dunk has some moments like that. What? 179 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,280 What's the interesting thing about this scene? 180 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Of course, it's raining now. That's that's from the book, but 181 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,520 there's very loud wind as well, which I thought was a nice touch 182 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,720 and it fits with the rain, but it also just gives the the scene 183 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,160 more of a a quality, a lonely quality, and I thought that was 184 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,760 a nice touch for sure. All right, here is the next 185 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,360 part. This is again the quote from the 186 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,440 book, and you'll see just how similar it is to the show. 187 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,560 I'd leave your sword, but it would rust in the ground, he 188 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:17,920 said, at last, apologetic. The gods will give you a new 189 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,600 one, I guess. I wish you didn't die, SER. 190 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,560 He paused, uncertain what else needed to be said. 191 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,640 He didn't know any prayers, not all the way through. 192 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,840 The old man had never been much for praying. 193 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,520 You were a true knight, and you never beat me when I didn't 194 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,760 deserve it. He finally managed. 195 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,440 Except that one time in Maiden Pool. 196 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,840 It was the in boy who ate the widow woman's pie, not me. 197 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,800 I told you it don't matter now. The gods keep you, Sarah. 198 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,760 If you remove the narrator parts from what Ashea just read, it 199 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,000 could very much fit the show. You might not know which it was 200 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,680 if you heard both and you're like, well, that which was the 201 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:04,240 show and which was the book, you know, this was a pretty 202 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,440 effective way to do it, I think. And he's got a lot of emotion in 203 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,760 his voice and it's a solid way to to handle a monologue, I 204 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,960 think. And the flashbacks were 205 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,240 something we were hoping for, somewhat expecting. 206 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,640 And it was done interestingly here as a way to punctuate 207 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,440 what's a pretty sad moment with some comedy, which is something 208 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,880 that the the show apparently is going to do a lot of. 209 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,080 And we, we slowed down these flashbacks to see exactly what 210 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,280 was going on. And the 1st 2 are pretty 211 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,120 mundane. He just is standing there with 212 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,760 some dirt on his face. And the first one, the second 213 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,960 one, there's a group of people, you know, standing around. 214 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,120 They're all kind of looking at him. 215 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,120 I don't really know what he did, but he did something because he, 216 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,640 both of them, he doesn't know what's going. 217 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,960 He he seems to be agreeing that he was guilty. 218 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,760 And the third one, there's fire. There's a big fire. 219 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,480 It's a dunk start a huge fire. Dunk did start the fire. 220 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,520 It was always burnt. Yeah, it was always burning. 221 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Yeah. So that's pretty funny. 222 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,160 And this is the actual Dunk actor. 223 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,480 It's actual Peter Clapi in this one. 224 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:07,480 Whereas the first two scenes, it's his. 225 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:10,520 It's, what's his name? Bamber. 226 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,600 Yeah. Bamber, Todd. 227 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,200 How could you forget Bamber, Todd? 228 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,720 Bamber Todd, Brother of Sweetie Todd. 229 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,200 Yeah, or it's Bamber. That name we all know. 230 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,120 Yeah, the name we all know that's that's what we've always 231 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,400 said about it. Yeah. 232 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,200 So the line about living rich for a year or two and where it 233 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,440 leads, outlawry or brigandry, that's straight from the book 234 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,160 basically. And I like how in the show, what 235 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,720 happens is he says that line and then he looks over at the shovel 236 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,800 and gravesite and then his face gets very serious, very earnest. 237 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,440 He's like, no, I got to do what I was taught. 238 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,280 I got to be a true knight. That's the only example he 239 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,200 knows. Sir Arlen's his father figure. 240 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,080 And he's got a, he wants to follow in those footsteps. 241 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,320 It's what he it's what he was taught. 242 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,080 And it's a, it's a noble calling. 243 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,000 And that's why he kind of sifts through those other ideas, other 244 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,000 ideas and kind of, you know, discards them, you know, City 245 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,160 Watch, things like that. He thinks through it, but he's 246 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,880 like, no, that's, that's not the path for me. 247 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,200 I'm going to follow Sir Arlen's path, I think. 248 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,160 I thought that was really well done too, don't you think so, 249 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,320 Sean? I I do in general, I love this 250 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,080 whole opening for a million different reasons, and that's 251 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,760 one of them. I thought it was a good 252 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,320 appropriate. What's happening here is dunks 253 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,120 kind of like choosing his destiny. 254 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,360 You know what I mean? Like what, what do I do now? 255 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,160 And it's almost might be expository in some situation for 256 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,640 someone to kind of ponder out loud. 257 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,240 What am I supposed to do now, Nate, give him a little bit of 258 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,400 an excuse to talk to the horses. We talked about the idea of how 259 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,280 some of his internal dialogue in a show, they'd have to have a 260 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,360 way for him to say it. And that's this is a clever way 261 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,240 from to say it to the horses. But also I want to point out 262 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,240 that it's like a natural moment for someone to have an 263 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,000 expository moment, right when you're you're basically your 264 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:00,200 father has just died and everything you had is on the 265 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,000 horse you ride around, You know what I mean? 266 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,960 Like it's not like he's time to go back home. 267 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,040 What's home even he doesn't know anyone or anything else. 268 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,960 And so having to decide what to do here. 269 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,520 And it's kind of neat, just the world setting for him to scroll 270 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,200 through different types of ideas, you know, and you even 271 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,760 see as he does that he's kind of naive about him, just like 272 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,840 people in the real world. Who the heck what 1718 year old 273 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,920 kid knows what they're really getting into when they go to 274 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,040 college and taking all that debt and get leave home and their 275 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,640 parents and their structure and suddenly there's alcohol. 276 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Oh, you know what I mean. Like even someone who's maybe 277 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,800 kind of like dunk sort of naive ideas and going to go to college 278 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,360 and learn about mathematical engineering and instead you go 279 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,080 to college and you learn about girls and drugs. 280 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,920 You just don't know what's really out there in the world. 281 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,160 That steam when he pulls a sword. 282 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,840 Imagine he's in a city. Watch, Stop. 283 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,640 Stop conducting rapes, Sir. You know, it'd be a little 284 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,920 awkward and unrealistic because he doesn't actually know what it 285 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,560 means to be in the city guard or whatever. 286 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,000 Yeah, He wouldn't know what to say to someone if he did catch 287 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,480 them doing that. He'd be like, what am I? 288 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,000 Yeah, I assume they would train me what to do. 289 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,960 But he's just, yeah, he's just making something up because he's 290 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,720 trying it on. It's like he's trying that, that 291 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,360 roll on, you know, it's, it's like like an outfit. 292 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,880 And, and there are things that make sense in some way or 293 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,000 another, but the one he chooses is the one that's closest to 294 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,680 him. He's been to tournaments before. 295 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,440 Arlen is a knight. He wants to be a knight. 296 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,800 Knights go to tournaments. You know, this is a more along 297 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,440 the lines of what he fancies in his mind. 298 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,600 You know, absolutely also not really. 299 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,720 He's also naive. He's also naive about this 300 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,480 thing, even this thing. He should quote UN quote, should 301 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,640 know better from the world experience he does have. 302 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,800 He still doesn't really understand what he's getting 303 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,200 into here. Yeah, yeah. 304 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,760 One thing I love about this is that he, and it kind of comes up 305 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,040 later in his conversation with a laughing Storm where he's like, 306 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,320 why are you slouching? He because he's this is, if Dunk 307 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,800 understood better about living his own life, his physical gift, 308 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,280 his height. These are, these are qualities 309 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,240 that will get him a job. So yeah, he is downplaying them. 310 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,480 So it's like, no, you should be tall. 311 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,240 That's that's something, you know, it was, it was said as a 312 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,640 joke, but it's, it's it's really true about him. 313 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,560 He doesn't realize one of the things his naivete has him 314 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:16,280 believing or not missing. Rather he he doesn't know how 315 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,680 valuable his size is in the world. 316 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:23,760 Something a little deeper thought going back to the 317 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,359 flashbacks of Arlen. Yeah. 318 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,280 I was really stirred by that because it's something reading 319 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,160 the books that I would think about a lot, how much Dunk sort 320 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,480 of idolizes Arlen, but also how much he references Arlen having 321 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,720 hit him. And he so often has this 322 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,360 instinct to hit Egg. And it. 323 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:43,680 That seems like such a dark, awful thing. 324 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,840 And, you know, be fair, Modern times are different, but I still 325 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,480 believe a couple things. One, the showrunners chose to 326 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,240 slice those little flashbacks in, you know, they didn't have 327 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,680 to do that, but they did. And I think it really kind of 328 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,560 brings attention to, I don't know, the abuse, I guess the 329 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,720 Dunk maybe the average person would have taken and it maybe it 330 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,520 makes him tougher. Maybe Arlen doesn't know better. 331 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,840 You know, he that Arlen wasn't actually his father. 332 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,880 He wasn't trained to be his father, who is? 333 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,440 And especially back then, Arlen probably was also beaten by his 334 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,680 parents, probably worse than what he's given Dunk. 335 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,480 And I think at least one thing here, maybe I'm being kind of, 336 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,360 you know, optimistic outlook here, but the Dunk is going to 337 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,240 be better than this. The Dunk isn't going to hit Egg 338 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,360 when even when he says something about how Arlen taught me 339 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:34,120 everything he knew well as best as he could. 340 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:37,240 I think that's Dunk recognizing Arlen had his own faults, you 341 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,480 know, And I think Dunk doesn't want to have those faults 342 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,880 himself. And if he does raise Egg the 343 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,640 best he's can, as Egg suggested, it won't include actually 344 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,640 clotting him in the ear even when he might deserve it. 345 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,000 You know, quote UN quote deserve. 346 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,880 Like, I, it's hard for me to think what a child could do that 347 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:59,360 deserves being hit in the head. Like if an adult robbed the 348 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:01,880 store or called someone an asshole or I don't know, 349 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,200 whatever else. You don't hit the adult in the 350 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,360 head, right? Why would you treat children 351 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:09,320 worse than adults? So that is a theme in both book 352 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,040 and show that the this this upbringing and how it kind of is 353 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,880 passed on. And that's that's really true in 354 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,480 the Song of Ice and Fire very much as well. 355 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,720 Almost all these characters have very fleshed out backgrounds. 356 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,760 You can see how their ancestry effects who they are. 357 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,360 Thank you to Matt Fan man 781 for the Super chat who says 358 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:28,440 thank you history of Westeros for all your great reviews and 359 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,320 discussions. That's right, Hopefully we've 360 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,320 got plenty more for you the rest of season. 361 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,280 So here is the equivalent moment. 362 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,280 We have him pointing his sword out and his is. 363 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,280 This is the quote from the book that you can see pairs up really 364 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,640 nicely as well. He tied the scabbard to a length 365 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,840 of hemp and rope, knotted it around his waist, and drew the 366 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,680 long sword. The blade was straight and 367 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:56,920 heavy, good castle forged steel, the grip soft leather wrapped 368 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,000 over wood, the pommel a smooth polished Blackstone. 369 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,680 Plain as it was, the sword felt good in his hand, and Dunk knew 370 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,360 how sharp it was, having worked it with wet stone and oilcloth 371 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:13,800 many a night before they went to sleep. 372 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,680 It fits my grip as well as it ever fit his, he thought to 373 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,600 himself. And there is attorney at Ashford 374 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Meadow. They added a penny to his 375 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,040 pommel. That's one difference from book 376 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,960 and show, and it's for penny trees or Arlen, a penny tree. 377 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,160 It's a nice touch. It comes up again later when 378 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Dunk throws a penny and you can see it's the same coin, the same 379 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,640 kind of coin, not the exact same coin. 380 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,400 He doesn't take the coin out of the hilt. 381 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,440 But yeah, yeah, it's a. So it's a good visual way to to 382 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,840 know what's going on, especially because there's a couple, 383 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,840 there's at least one other scene where a coin comes up. 384 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,680 The first scene after he leaves the site of the grave, as I 385 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,400 mentioned before, is the N and the first person he sees his 386 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,360 egg. And that immediately 387 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:55,600 demonstrates even more of their height difference. 388 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,960 And it's it's definitely a running thing that there's 389 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,440 multiple moments where someone points out how big he is, like 390 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,840 Lionel stormed or Lionel strong. Lionel Baratheon does it and so 391 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,680 does Stefan Fosseway. But there's also a bunch of 392 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,760 people that in the background that just while he's walking 393 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,640 around the camp doing various things, you'll occasionally see 394 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,800 someone pass by and do a double take. 395 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,680 So they they've added a few extra like, whoa, just people 396 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,720 random people noticing him as being tall. 397 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,320 And so it's a kind of nice touch there and they. 398 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,320 Did a decent job I think of positioning him him around other 399 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,880 people being shorter. Like when he's at the the first 400 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,040 puppet show, he's a full head taller than the next nearest 401 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,160 person around him. And he is tall. 402 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,600 Like this actor is like, I don't know, well over 6 feet in real 403 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:41,400 life. He is. 404 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,800 Yeah. I think he's taller than average 405 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,880 in the 1st place. And it is somewhat of a 406 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,680 phenomenon that actors, on average, tend to have shorter 407 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,280 heights. So he's gonna stand out. 408 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,080 I've seen. I know that's like a concern 409 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,160 some people had going into this is that he's supposed to be 410 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,320 almost 7 feet tall. This actor's not tall enough. 411 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,720 I'm like, he's plenty tall. That's mine. 412 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,560 Yeah. Especially given the way they 413 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,840 can film and film around him and everything they're representing 414 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,400 himself as being the largest man around for. 415 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:07,920 Sure. Yeah. 416 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,880 And every scene, it never is never close. 417 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,920 Yeah, it's definitely represented visually quite well. 418 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,280 I agree with that. And when he comes up to AG, 419 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,560 it's, it's funny to consider that, you know, they're not that 420 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,440 far apart in age. And Dexter, soul and Cell in 421 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,320 real life, talked about how his neck would be sore 'cause they 422 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:27,680 have to do these scenes over and over and he's just looking up 423 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:33,160 the whole time all day long. So there's a a couple people in 424 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,960 the room. At first I wrote in my notes 425 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,120 that there's only one person in the inn besides the innkeep and 426 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,080 her young daughter. But there's one other person 427 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,840 besides the passed out, well dressed man. 428 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,960 There's actually one other person. 429 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,200 I think there's a guy, a bearded guy in the far corner that was 430 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,920 kind of leaning on his arm. But whatever, doesn't matter. 431 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Here is the equivalent quote from the book again, which once 432 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,440 again very similar. Across the room, the lordling 433 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,920 raised his head from the wine puddle. 434 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,440 His face had a sallow, unhealthy cast to it Beneath a rat's nest 435 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,600 of sandy brown hair and blonde stubble crusted his chin. 436 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,320 He rubbed his mouth, blinked at Dunk and said. 437 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,160 I dreamed of you. His hand trembled as he pointed 438 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,200 a finger. You stay away from me, do you 439 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,120 hear? You stay well away. 440 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,000 I thought slamming down the golden dragon, there was a great 441 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,360 touch visual thing there. That says a lot. 442 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,360 It's already, it's one thing. The way the innkeeper looks at 443 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:33,280 Dunk is like, don't you dare interfere with my overpaying 444 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,440 customer. This guy's been hanging out for 445 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,400 days just drinking and overpaying. 446 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,400 You better not mess with that. Just leave him. 447 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,200 You know, that's that's the way I took it, which isn't how I 448 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,600 took it in the book necessarily. I think that's a really good way 449 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,640 to interpret the scene, that she's got this drunk rich guy 450 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,440 there and she doesn't want anyone messing with that. 451 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,720 The other thing, it was like slightly different in the book, 452 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,040 there's a few scenes where there is like a little nuance of 453 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,400 difference. And this is one of them where I 454 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,880 think if I remember right, in the book she said something to 455 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,320 dunk along the lines of, you know, in the show she said 456 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,960 something like never mind him, but in the book she said never 457 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,960 mind him. All he does is get drunk and 458 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,480 talk about his dreams. A little more emphasis on the 459 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,280 dreams in the book than there was in the in the show. 460 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,240 Yeah, so the line, yeah, the line both when he asked for food 461 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,320 is in the book and so is your big enough for it. 462 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,000 That's all there. And of course, after eating, he 463 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,680 returns to the stable and finds Egg riding Thunder and scolds 464 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,040 him, leading to this exchange quote. 465 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,000 Every night needs a Squire, the boy said. 466 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,200 You look as though you need one more than most. 467 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,600 Dexter's delivery on your belts made of rope was a plus. 468 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,680 This, It was very much the vibe of how the comic delivery was 469 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,960 throughout the episode. And yeah, it's neat. 470 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Shay, you have a note here. I think this is your note. 471 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,080 Maybe this is Sean's note about that kind of dates back to what 472 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,040 you were talking about a minute ago, Sean, about, you know, 473 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,520 being hurt, you know, and how this is a different concern that 474 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,400 that maybe Sir Arlen didn't have for Duncan. 475 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,400 No, yeah, I was saying the dunks reaction, his instant reaction 476 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,360 is not that's my horse and don't get on that horse. 477 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:16,680 And you're, you know, all these things. 478 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,880 His reaction is Thunder could could kick you, you could be 479 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,320 killed. You could be hurt like that. 480 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,320 That is his his his concern, despite someone you know 481 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,880 touching his stuff. Yeah, well said. 482 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,160 I totally agree. It's it's a little sign of his 483 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,840 character that says a lot when you when you key in on it. 484 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,800 You know, and this is something I I wasn't until my second watch 485 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,880 a little deeper through or third watch maybe that it something 486 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,840 started to click in my mind is that I think Dunk is part of his 487 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,400 hesitance to take Egg on is he feels like he doesn't need it 488 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,520 and it's maybe even an offence to imply that he does. 489 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,840 You know what I mean? Like he's been taking care of 490 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,240 himself. Why do I need someone to take 491 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,920 care of me now when? But clearly he needs help. 492 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,040 He's got these three horses. You know, he barely knows what 493 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,200 he's doing. Egg Egg has skills that Dunk 494 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,760 doesn't even know as far as like the heraldry and the Knights of 495 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,040 the tournament, all this kind of stuff. 496 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,480 But but you could see there's a lot of reasons Dunk might not 497 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,200 want Egg. Like an annoying kid. 498 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,680 I don't know who. This kid, I can't trust this 499 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,520 kid. I don't need anyone's help, all 500 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,760 this stuff. But I think part of it is it's a 501 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,080 responsibility that he would have to take on. 502 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,520 To him, a Squire isn't someone there to help you. 503 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,480 A Squire is someone there for you to help. 504 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,120 He thinks like Arlen was the mentor to Dunk. 505 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,480 That's what a knight did. That's what a leader, that's the 506 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,840 father, whatever, whatever. So if I suddenly have a Squire, 507 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,280 man, I don't even know how I'm getting a tournament. 508 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,080 I can't take on the responsibility of a Squire. 509 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,400 I think that's part of it to him. 510 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,680 I agree. I totally agree. 511 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,480 Ready for that. I think that's reflected in the 512 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,800 conversation when he says you're you're lad, you're better off, 513 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,360 you know, not squirting for the likes of me or whatever. 514 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,680 And I think that's what you're what you're saying is in is the 515 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,360 subtext there. And I very much agree. 516 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,600 A couple corrections from the preview episode. 517 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Dunk actually is well educated on sigil's and heraldry. 518 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,640 I completely forgot that it's something that's explicit in the 519 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,200 book that Sir Arlen drilled him on it. 520 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,880 And I think that was just a story device. 521 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,640 So that to cover the part that we were saying. 522 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,400 So Dunk knows what he's seeing. Otherwise the story would would 523 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,960 have some holes because the POV character doesn't know who all 524 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,080 these houses are. And that would be it just 525 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,000 wouldn't be as as good without that without that information. 526 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,520 That said, we don't know that he's very well educated on 527 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,560 sigils in the show. He might not be. 528 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,720 So we'll see. But but just to correct myself 529 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,880 from that, another small correction. 530 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,280 Medgar Tulley, I said that the Lord of River Run was dead in 531 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,920 this had died recently, but that's not true. 532 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,520 He's an adult. He's competes in this 533 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,480 tournament. He dies not that long after 534 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,760 though. It's it's the mystery night I'm 535 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,280 thinking of where there's an 8 year old Lord of House Tully. 536 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,400 So it's only a couple years later. 537 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,360 And there let's move on to our next part, the Pavilion Under 538 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:58,320 the stars. Here is the moment Dunk finds 539 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,920 his spot from the book quote. On the outskirts of the Great 540 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,280 Meadow, a good half mile from town and castle, he found a 541 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,400 place where a bend in a brook had formed a deep pool. 542 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:16,960 Reeds grew thick along its edge, and a tall leafy Elm presided 543 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,360 over all the spring grass. There was as green as any 544 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,160 night's banner, and soft to the touch. 545 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,840 It was a pretty spot, and no one had yet laid claim to it. 546 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,240 This will be my pavilion, Dunk told himself. 547 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,120 A pavilion roofed with leaves greener even than the banners of 548 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,720 the Tyrells and the Estermont's. There's a clue right there with 549 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,440 the heraldry. Is it greener than the banners? 550 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,440 He's immediately thinking of banners when he thinks of 551 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,440 greener things. So, yeah, in the show, this is 552 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,360 of course all visual, but when he comes upon that Elm tree, he 553 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,240 has a big smile on his face. He's like, Oh yeah, he 554 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,600 recognized. That's what I want. 555 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,400 That's for me. It's the perfect kind of tree 556 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,120 for a man who has to sleep under trees. 557 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,400 It's the best kind of tree, you know, and that's part of why it 558 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,520 ends up on a shield. So it's it's very the show is 559 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,600 pretty careful to give us lots of visual moments of the hedge 560 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,800 night lifestyles. In the book, there's similar 561 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,520 things, but it's it's communicated differently 562 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,000 visually. Obviously there's that beginning 563 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,960 part to the show where he starts you relieving himself when the 564 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,800 original theme music starts playing. 565 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,760 Yeah, it's meant to be kind of a crass joke, but it is also a 566 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,960 reminder that this guy has to eat crappy food all the time. 567 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,160 His stomach is probably going to get upset very often. 568 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Like this is the equivalent of eating gas station food like 569 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,200 regularly. Actually, something worse than 570 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,240 that, worse than gas station food regularly. 571 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,000 You always say don't eat the gas station food. 572 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,040 I was like, well he has no choice, he has to eat worse so. 573 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,280 At least gas station food has caffeine. 574 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,800 And there's this line I'll read myself. 575 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,400 He beat his tunic in breeches against the trunk of the Elm to 576 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,680 knock off the worst of the dirt and donned them once again. 577 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,840 I mean, we, we saw that straightforwardly, which is the 578 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,560 added touch of the the comedy of him smelling his own clothes and 579 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,000 going, you know, So they add some humor to that because 580 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,320 otherwise, yeah, it's just like, man, this guy's life is hard, 581 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,680 and you don't want to just get sunk into that and just be 582 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,920 feeling bad for him all the time. 583 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,040 No, it's it, it. The show has a more upbeat vibe 584 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,560 than that. You can tell that things are 585 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,360 going to go better for this guy in the long run. 586 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,560 Like he's not the main character to be tortured and suffer the 587 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,160 whole way through. No, I mean, no, he's a, he's 588 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,200 generally going to persevere and have good things happen. 589 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,920 Bad things will happen along the way. 590 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,800 But yeah, I mean, he's he's the main character. 591 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,800 I I want to point out also like we I'm sure there's just ad 592 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,920 nauseam discussion going on about the opening poop, but but 593 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,280 I do think in addition to whatever kind of humor they were 594 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,360 trying to get out of it and maybe referencing, you know, the 595 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,840 bigger story, I think it had some value to to kind of point 596 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,040 out to us that this is like maybe from a tone standpoint 597 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,760 that this show is a little bit light hearted, but also from a 598 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,400 POV standpoint, right. When you think of the and you 599 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,560 know, I love Game of Thrones and you know, however disappointed 600 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,840 the ending or whatever, I think the first seasons are great. 601 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360 The books are great. So I don't want to sound too 602 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,480 negative when I say this, but it just is a different perspective 603 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,960 when you have like stoic Ned Stark and brooding Jon Snow 604 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,960 pondering their futures as the leaders in the realm Dunks, just 605 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,120 some guy in the road, you know what I mean? 606 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,440 It's just a different story. And these grand ideas that he 607 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,480 starts to have that the music swells in to remind us of the 608 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,240 grandness of Game of Thrones, which incidentally, the music of 609 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,800 this show is not as grand, right? 610 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,560 Like they immediately cut that short. 611 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,160 Remind us, No, he's just a dude. He's not the heir to the throne. 612 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,680 He's not some Lord's son. He's not fighting some Game of 613 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,280 Thrones, right? He's trying to not starve. 614 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,520 That's his life. You know, he's trying to maybe 615 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,480 find some meaning, some some role, some home, but he's not 616 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,720 trying to find some throne or some inheritance. 617 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,720 You know, it's just a different story being told. 618 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,160 And I and I think the music in general is doing that well, 619 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,440 right in this kind of full orchestral big royal sound. 620 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,240 It's not, it's a little bit more like minstrels at a festival. 621 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,920 It's like a guitar sound in a, you know, light, hollow sounding 622 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,480 music. We've. 623 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,560 Got a whole a little bit of a section on the music coming up 624 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,520 so I'll comment on that a little bit more later, but I totally 625 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,400 agree the vibe for the music is very fitting. 626 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,800 One other at least small detail I thought was was nice to 627 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,760 include that reflects the difficulty of of his station and 628 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,120 and living day-to-day It was. How many times did he swat at a 629 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,800 mosquito? It was at least four, maybe as 630 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,080 many as like 6 or 7, but it got a couple. 631 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,200 Of those might have been flies or gnats and not mosquitoes. 632 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,560 Sure. Bugs, yeah. 633 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,000 Maybe not fleas 'cause we're outside a Flea Bottom. 634 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,400 Oh, yeah, yeah. When Dunk returns, we'll skip 635 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,800 all the way ahead to the final scene. 636 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,800 We'll just keep do all the scenes that are at the pavilion, 637 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,000 so to speak. The conversation is again, 638 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,640 almost straight from the book. In fact, Dunkin eggs lines are 639 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,360 probably the least change. Their exchanges overall are at 640 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,640 least so far the most straightforward from the book, 641 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,360 which is that's pretty nice because that's really, really 642 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,080 well written lines that don't need much change, if any. 643 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,080 So just like he's his delivery on the rope belt, his that's a 644 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,120 tree was what's really good in the book. 645 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,680 It said he's unimpressed, you know, by the tree. 646 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,760 And in the in the in both cases, he says trees leak. 647 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,720 And in both cases Dunk laughs a bit and he's like, yeah, is it 648 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,640 short for Duncan? That was really well done. 649 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,520 He's like, yeah. And how good was it when he 650 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680 stood up straight to say Duncan the tall He like he did the 651 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,200 Superman pose there as he realizes, Sue he's going to be. 652 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,400 And that's part of what you're saying, Sean at the beginning of 653 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,640 the UPS. He's like who who am I? 654 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,520 And he kind of like he sort of gets takes another step to to 655 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,560 his identity there, doesn't he? Yeah. 656 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,400 That was in the book, by the way, that scene. 657 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,360 I, I feel like this was so, well, I, I don't know, written, 658 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,960 edited, directed, performed, because in the book, that was a 659 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,280 little internal monologue. It's like a little paragraph of 660 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,199 thought went through Dunk's mind. 661 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,199 He was like Dunk. Yeah, That doesn't sound like a 662 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,320 Sir, I guess Sir Duncan. Sir Duncan of I guess any tree. 663 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,080 That's where Arlen's from, but I'm not really from there. 664 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,199 He goes through all this and you know how like in the real world, 665 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,719 like your mind can flicker through a whole series of 666 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,199 thoughts in a split second and it finally spits out Sir Duncan 667 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:37,080 Natal. But here we we see that thought 668 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,159 we don't hear right in on in the book. 669 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,639 We just his thoughts are written down for us to read. 670 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,360 But here it comes out through his acting through his the the 671 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,600 how the camera holds on and how his facial expressions look kind 672 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,920 of slightly opens his mouth at one point, looks down and in. 673 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,320 We had this added context that wasn't in the book of when 674 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,560 Lionel Baratheon tells him be tall. 675 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,360 He was slouching. He gave you this gift. 676 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,760 Don't be a heretic, right? He was absolutely slouching, 677 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,120 Yeah. And I think that's part of the 678 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,280 internal dialogue that Dunk was having with himself here that 679 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,080 wouldn't have been in the book, was what did Lionel tell me? 680 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,320 You know, I think that's like me, who you are, except the gift 681 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,560 the gods gave you. So yeah, I love that, that 682 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,360 moment on multiple levels. One of the only times Egg smiles 683 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,320 is when Dunk is telling him what kind of lifestyle they'll have. 684 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,120 And as low as it sounds, as it gets worse and worse, Egg Smile 685 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,560 gets bigger. He's like really hard salt beef 686 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,200 sleeping on the ground. Yes, my Lord, no, I'm only a 687 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,160 hedge knight, you know, and that almost was the final could have 688 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,640 been the final scene, the last line, but they have to do the 689 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,840 shooting star scene. They can't just like do that the 690 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,640 beginning of next episode. That's that's the real ending of 691 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,800 the episode. And it's really well done. 692 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,680 And this is a perfect example of a scene that was entirely in 693 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,520 Dunk's head that they adapted really well to be dialogue. 694 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,920 I like how it played out. Dunk thinks he's being mocked. 695 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,000 He's like enough with the I don't have a pavilion thing, you 696 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,320 know? Then he's like, oh, wait, you're 697 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,680 saying Egg? Yeah. 698 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,280 So anyway, when the luck is ours alone, he finally figures it 699 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,160 out. Egg smiles. 700 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,760 Cool. So super Sat from Sam Jensen. 701 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,000 Loved the first episode so much. Almost as excited for your 702 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,640 guys's review as I was for the episode. 703 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,040 Cheers to the rest of the season. 704 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,240 So we have a note here. Shay is keeping track of what's 705 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,520 going on in the chat and she says no one cares about the 706 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,920 spoiler being a spoiler free. It's full of spoilers in the 707 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680 chat. So OK, we'll we won't hold back 708 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,760 on spoilers. If any of you do care about 709 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,760 spoilers. Well, I'm sorry, you're in the 710 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,240 very small minority and there's just not enough of you, so we'll 711 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:42,640 go ahead and go with spoilers. Maybe some egregious spoiler we 712 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,520 saved with the second-half since we announced it at the 713 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,440 beginning, but. Yeah, we won't. 714 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,920 We just won't. We won't worry about it too much 715 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,440 and we're ready for the next section. 716 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,720 The plumber, the steward. Here's another great example of 717 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:58,240 a scene that is really close to word for word, especially at the 718 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,800 start. I love how even the description 719 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,160 is perfectly matching to what we see in the scene quote. 720 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,000 Men at arms in orange and white livery stood outside the gates 721 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,680 with Hal Birds watching people come and go, seemingly more 722 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,400 intent on joking with a pretty milk maid than in keeping anyone 723 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,240 out. Dunk rained up in front of the 724 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:27,080 short bearded man he took for their captain and asked for the 725 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,920 Master of the games. It's plumber you want. 726 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,400 He's steward Here, I'll show you. 727 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,160 Inside the yard, a stable boy took Sweetfoot for him. 728 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,120 Dunk slung Sir Arlen's battered shield over his shoulder and 729 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,720 followed the Guards captain back of the stables to a turret built 730 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,800 into an angle of the curtain wall. 731 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,600 Steep stone steps LED up to the wall walk. 732 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,720 Yeah, just to harp on this a little more, I was really struck 733 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,600 how exactly it followed you. He rides up. 734 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,840 There's the four men in orange and white livery joking with the 735 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,040 milk maid. He doesn't actually say it's 736 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,120 plumber you want. They skip the the line, but he, 737 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:13,280 the stable boy takes sweet foot. There's a narrow staircase up 738 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,720 the turret. It's exactly the same. 739 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,600 And then when he walks in, Dunk bumps his head in the show. 740 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,960 That doesn't happen in the book, but the same first line happens, 741 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,000 which is what do you want, man? And then from there, it's a 742 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,600 mostly similar conversation. There's the added bit about the 743 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,080 Ashford chairs for more comedy and but the line a sword it is 744 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,000 for a certainty is there. And there's a visual joke when 745 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,280 he says what's your name? And he says Dunk, he's actually 746 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,160 dunking his bread into his cup. When he hears that he's like 747 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,600 Dunk, you say he's dunking it. I. 748 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,240 Couldn't even tell him. Maybe he was doing it in 749 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,440 response, as though Dunk had told him to do. 750 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,400 This OK, I will so that was pretty funny. 751 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,720 So just like in the book, he pulls no punches. 752 00:38:57,720 --> 00:38:59,320 He's very blunt and straightforward about the 753 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,960 situation, but he's he's empathetic to dunk by the end of 754 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,240 the scene, he's kind of well, it's a recurring thing that 755 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,520 happens. Dunk is so earnest and wholesome 756 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,760 that people are disarmed by it because in this world, everyone 757 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,560 expects people to want something from you or you're up to 758 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,640 something you're after something what you know who are you 759 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,280 really? But and and that's how so that's 760 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,280 how people expect you to be and then dunked throughout the 761 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200 dialogue, they're realizing, wait, this guy isn't like that, 762 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,240 is he? And so it's it is disarming. 763 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,200 So then they're like, they sympathize with him and that's 764 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,160 how a lot of things go his way because of that reaction. 765 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,760 And people treat him like a good person because they recognize 766 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,280 him as a good person. And that is a very rare thing 767 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,800 and that means something to them. 768 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,440 I. Will say they they have to 769 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,840 recognize them as a good person and also have some good in 770 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,280 themselves too. Sure. 771 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,920 Good point. Yeah. 772 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,400 And I, I, I, I that is the point I wanted to make, is that this 773 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,800 thing was very, very similar to the book. 774 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,320 But as you said, toward the end, it started to shift a little. 775 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,200 And that main shift was that Plummer was a little bit more. 776 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,880 Empathetic because I think you said that's probably the best 777 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,480 word in the book. He ended with more like begones. 778 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,440 It got you know that good riddance to you that but and 779 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,800 this one was more like good luck. 780 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,320 I hope to see you again. You know, it was even in the 781 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,520 book a little more generally wanted to help dunk and. 782 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,440 Even in the book, he said he tells him how he can get it 783 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,440 done. He's like, well, if you can find 784 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,280 someone that will vouch for you, then you're good. 785 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,320 But other than that, yeah. But I agree with you totally. 786 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,680 So here's a notable moment from the conversation that relates 787 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,160 back to the first scene and has some extra what a meaning to it 788 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,200 will say. Quote. 789 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,520 Were there any witnesses to your dubbing? 790 00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:41,040 Only a Robin up in a thorn tree. I heard it as the old man was 791 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,280 saying the words. He charged me to be a good 792 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,920 knight and true. To obey the seven gods, defend 793 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,200 the weak and innocent, serve my Lord faithfully, and defend the 794 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,800 realm with all my might. And I swore that I would. 795 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,840 And that's almost word for word what he says in the show as 796 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,880 well. He does see a Robin in a tree. 797 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,240 That's not something we get from the book. 798 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:05,360 It's we get the visual of seeing a tree. 799 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,400 Proof that Duck is a true night. We see the Robin. 800 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,080 So we remember what Dunk was actually doing in that moment. 801 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,320 He was. Yeah. 802 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,040 Unburdening himself there. And when Plummer pushes him, 803 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,040 he's like, who? Were there any, you know, 804 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,720 witnesses? He starts talking about how it 805 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:26,280 was raining, which it was not raining, but it was raining when 806 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,560 he buried him. So yeah, Well, it. 807 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,760 Wasn't raining earlier when he got knighted and the Robin saw 808 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,600 it just started raining later. Yeah, had tipped to listener 809 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,720 Kelly Lowe, who pointed this, a lot of this out. 810 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,840 How looking at the bird you know parallels looking at the the OR 811 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,040 how he tells it in the story rather. 812 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,280 Yeah, he was. There was a bird there when he 813 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,440 decided he should be knighted. It's the Robin, perhaps, who 814 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,960 actually knighted him, so there's. 815 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,280 A raves to Robin, yeah. Raves to Robin. 816 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,800 What a great lead in because I was about to say how many Monty 817 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,000 Python type jokes there were in this episode. 818 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,680 This is really a quality that it seemed to have. 819 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,880 But I think the most Monty Python ish line was in this 820 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,560 scene where he's like, no, I'm messing with you. 821 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,880 I'm bullshitting you, man. What do you think? 822 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,000 There's a scourge of Cottagers scuttling about entering 823 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,320 tourneys? You know, he's like, what a 824 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,200 ridiculous problem to think we would have, you know, like, 825 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,960 well, like, yeah, farmers are sneaking in there so they can 826 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,240 get plowed down by Sir Lionel. And that's the great lines. 827 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,440 Like that would be a different sort of entertainment. 828 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,560 Yeah. And that was that. 829 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,120 That makes you think about the idea of what why this guy kind 830 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,680 of has his guard up and some of the other people don't interact 831 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,280 with you. Like later we see it with Lionel 832 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,080 Bratton, right? Like people kind of expect you 833 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,000 to have some angle and especially at a tournament for 834 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,080 this guy trying to run the tournament, just think of the 835 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,000 different responsibilities he has probably just normally, 836 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,760 right. He's steward of Ashford. 837 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,080 So he's got to make sure like everyone's got a their their 838 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,480 meals ready and their horses are fed and the fires are kept. 839 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,560 And all the the different kind of managerial expectations on 840 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,280 him are suddenly amplified by 1000 at this tournament. 841 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,640 And a lot of it is going to be, you know, Knights and royalty, 842 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,760 nobles of sorts. Demanding people, Yeah. 843 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,120 Right. They expect a certain respect, 844 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,200 they expect certain facilities and equipment and demands to be 845 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,440 met and it to get it immediately and with utmost respect and da, 846 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,200 da, da, da. So this guy's putting up with 847 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,040 all that, but also there probably are some people trying 848 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,920 to get over there probably are some people angling to join the 849 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,840 tournament who are really just robbers. 850 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,120 That former hedge Knights that did turn to the wrong side of 851 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,760 the law. We're trying to disguise their 852 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,040 real personality. Or maybe people who are trying 853 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,880 to pretend they're Knights just so they can put their horse in 854 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,080 the stable and get it fed even though they're not a knight and 855 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,960 not you. You just imagine all the angles 856 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,120 people might be trying to get over on plumber and so he's he 857 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,240 probably has seen it before, right. 858 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,760 So he did this little story tells Dunk. 859 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,560 He's like, think how bad it would be if some farmer came in 860 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,600 here. Like, he's trying some level. 861 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,640 He doesn't want to completely be mean and dismissive of Dunk, but 862 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,000 also he can't abandoned his responsibilities. 863 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,000 Like, look, I I can't let people put themselves in this dangerous 864 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,480 situation. I can't let Lord Ashford be 865 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,440 embarrassed by thieves and incompetent fools getting in 866 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,200 this tournament. You understand, right? 867 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,920 You get it, right. And Dunk's like, yeah, I get it. 868 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,280 You know, I, I, it was humorous, but also, again, empathetic. 869 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,760 I think that it's interesting the way he presented his defense 870 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,800 to dunk. And not just. 871 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,240 Mean to him it's. Like, this is bad for everyone. 872 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,640 If, if this, if you're not the right man, it's good. 873 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,160 It's bad for Lord Ashford. It's bad for me. 874 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,120 It's bad for you. Yeah. 875 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,960 No one, no one wants this. And this is really important 876 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,280 because there is an undertone here. 877 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,240 There is a subtlety here because some of this is is is bluster. 878 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,960 It's not but not and he but he explains why he tells Dunk why 879 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,960 the rules are is the way they are for this tournament, which 880 00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:03,160 is there are Prince's about. And he doesn't fully explain 881 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,160 what that means. And Dunk is definitely not 882 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,400 worldly enough to know what that means exactly. 883 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,880 But what it means we find out later in the book. 884 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,200 It's for example, Valar, most of all Prince Valar. 885 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,280 He fights weak opponents. His opponents give up easily. 886 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:21,880 They're doing all sorts of things to make him look good. 887 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:25,040 And this is a part of why he would look real bad if Prince 888 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,720 Valar lost to a hedge knight. So if there's no hedge Knights 889 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:29,760 in the tournament, if no sell swords in the tournament, it 890 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,480 couldn't possibly happen, you know, So they're being it's an 891 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,920 extra level of security. They're not letting them in just 892 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,440 because they're lowborn. It's because there's a potential 893 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,360 huge embarrassment. And then Lord Ashford is the one 894 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,680 who looks really, really bad too for that. 895 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,840 He's like, I, I brought you here to make you look good. 896 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,280 And the opposite happened. So let's talk briefly about 897 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,640 Tanzel and the puppetry. We don't get a whole lot yet. 898 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,080 Her role clearly is more for a bit later, but great 899 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,240 introduction. Here's the brief quote from the 900 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:02,360 book on how we see her. As he ate, he watched a painted 901 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,600 wooden night battle, a painted wooden dragon. 902 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,600 The puppeteer who worked the dragon was good to watch too. 903 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,320 A tall drink of water with the olive skin and black hair of 904 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,960 Dorn. As great as A Song of Ice and 905 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,400 Fire or Game of Thrones casting has been throughout all three 906 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,200 shows, they can't always have a perfect match physically. 907 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,760 But Tanzel is like, yeah, like, right down perfect for the 908 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,360 description. Yep. 909 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,040 Mild skin, black hair, tall. Yep. 910 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,600 I'll check all three boxes there. 911 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,960 And as you said, Sean, this is the scene probably most of all, 912 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,160 where they emphasize his height. He's really tall. 913 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,440 They can focus in on him without seeing anyone's else's head. 914 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,960 Like, they're just below the shot. 915 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,200 I love that. And it was a great choice, I 916 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,800 think as an adaptation move to have her do the narration. 917 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,480 That was a great way to introduce her a little more, 918 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,480 make her a little more prominent, great way to 919 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,760 introduce the scene she's. A beat poet. 920 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:03,720 A beat poet and the and the like dragon breathing fire with that 921 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,320 apparatus was pretty cool. Like seeing Sir when in the 922 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,720 mirror, shield and all. Yeah, it's just nice. 923 00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:12,560 Like it's a it's a way to put some of the the mythology of 924 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,120 Westeros into the into the story in an organic way. 925 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,600 Can I actually read a couple lines from that scene do it? 926 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,680 Because it it really struck me. As much as I defend Dunk being a 927 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,680 true knight, it really struck me. 928 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,880 There was one line right at the end that said should the dragon 929 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,640 discover a man in great disguise? 930 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,560 And it was enough that I went back and listen to that whole 931 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,200 thing a few more times and yeah, sure, this is about. 932 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,280 Sir went to the mirror show. Sir went to the mirror show. 933 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,400 Or the mirror show. But this is also about Dunk, and 934 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,560 maybe also about Egg. Just a couple little excerpts 935 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:57,800 where our great hero forges on, leaving all he knows behind. 936 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,840 Who's that sound like a boy from nothing risks it all. 937 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,760 Ignoring looks. The sconce? 938 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,680 Who does that sound like? Very good. 939 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,480 Perhaps, perhaps he's only stupid. 940 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,440 Great honor. His ambition must keep a truth 941 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,720 concealed. What truth? 942 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,760 Who? Who's concealing a truth? 943 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,960 More than one person here. Nice. 944 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,520 That's really good. I didn't catch that at all. 945 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,360 Sean. Oh really? 946 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,560 Is he? OK. 947 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,760 No, I would say. I thought it was too on the 948 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,720 nose, I would say. Sometimes those are the things 949 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:36,960 I'm most likely to miss. I felt I I did not like her 950 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,920 narration as much I would say. So maybe you'd like the choice 951 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,840 to narrate less than the actual things she narrated. 952 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,360 Yeah, yeah. I wanted more puppetry and more 953 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,680 mummery and I think in the we'll see that going forward. 954 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,160 We'll see her more in the action. 955 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,240 I I think we will see her in the action, not just narrating. 956 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,400 Yeah. From the trailer, she's wearing 957 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,280 costumes. Yeah, I want more than just her 958 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,280 narrating and being the poet, I guess is. 959 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,320 My point? He did see two puppet shows in 960 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,080 the in the book. Yeah, so. 961 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,360 Well, and of course, there's the one, the big one coming where, 962 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,680 yeah, where Aryan gets involved. So we'll at least see that one. 963 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,520 Moving on to Manfred's red sex workers. 964 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,000 Manfred Dondarian is portrayed as a pretty terrible person. 965 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,280 These sex workers first make fun of Dunk. 966 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,480 It's partly exposition to explain to the audience what a 967 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,680 hedge night actually is. And that's kind of effective way 968 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,120 to do it. And it's pretty comedic. 969 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,760 It's nice to add a few more women to the story because 970 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,000 really there aren't many hardly at all Tanzel's in there. 971 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,320 And that's, this is a organic way to do that. 972 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,680 I keep using that word, but it fits. 973 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,400 They're not just bolted on. They fit very well, especially 974 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,560 in the later scene, which we'll talk about in a moment. 975 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,960 They point out that Manfred sleeps with other men's wives, 976 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,720 and that's what they expected. Dunk was another man coming by, 977 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:52,080 grieved at being cuckolded or whatever. 978 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,160 And so they're just used to that. 979 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,320 And that by itself, I think just sets up the rest of his day 980 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,400 where he's looking for Sir Manfred and other things happen. 981 00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:05,120 But the thing that I think is a lot more meaningful and the part 982 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,640 that is one of the most meaningful scenes in the episode 983 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,280 perhaps is when he comes back later and Manfred still isn't 984 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,080 there. It's it's like, well, it's even 985 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,520 fall. And that's a nice little Easter 986 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,520 egg. The line even fall, the 987 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,920 conversation inside there. Now. 988 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,560 Sex workers have a defined place in this society. 989 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,080 They are, but they're unlike all the other forms of commoners in 990 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,040 that they actually have intimacy with the high born like no other 991 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,480 low born class has the level of intimacy that a sex worker can 992 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,960 have with the nobility. So like most people deal with 993 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,000 the nobility in passing or indirectly or not at all, and 994 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,520 like through subordinates maybe. So with sex workers it's very 995 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,560 different. It's a very direct contact. 996 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,960 And so the way this conversation goes is pretty similar. 997 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,000 At the start, you have them kind of mocking him, making fun of 998 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,920 him because they think he's just another jerky, you know, asshole 999 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,320 knight, you know, And then like, once again, his earnestness 1000 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,160 disarms them and they change their they start talking to him 1001 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,120 differently. And then basically the tone of 1002 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,000 the conversation is, hey, man, we're similar. 1003 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,640 We both have to sell our bodies for money because that's the 1004 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,240 only thing available to us. But don't waste your body. 1005 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,280 Don't ruin yourself or somebody else. 1006 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,440 It's the only body you have. Don't get crippled on someone 1007 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,560 else's behalf. You need to think of yourself, 1008 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,960 you know, And it's it's I thought that was really, really 1009 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,600 well done. Very poignant connection between 1010 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,120 these two very on on the surface, very different roles, 1011 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,280 Knights versus sex workers. But in this case, because he's a 1012 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,520 hedge knight, there's a lot more they have in common. 1013 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,600 And in the scene that's actually brought up indirectly, when Dunk 1014 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,080 is asking or pleading with Sir Manfred, Manfred's like, he's 1015 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,440 like, my Sir Arlen took a wound in your service. 1016 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,520 And he's like, yeah, I don't remember that. 1017 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,800 Why would that? Why would I remember that? 1018 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,840 We had people that lost limbs or died. 1019 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,880 You know, I'm not going to remember that. 1020 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,640 And that's exactly what the sex workers were saying. 1021 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,000 They're like, yeah, you're going to get hurt really badly, maybe 1022 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,600 crippled for someone who won't even remember that you did that 1023 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,280 for them. A slightly more cynical take. 1024 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,480 More cynical? Yeah. 1025 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,560 I think Manfred's exact wording was. 1026 00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:18,080 I don't remember people who reaped more than a wound. 1027 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,480 Yeah. Why would I even remember him so 1028 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,400 well? I'm thinking that even different 1029 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,680 way. Some people, like, took a wound 1030 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,000 or died for me. Some people got me four horses 1031 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,640 from the captives. Some people got me a new stood 1032 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,280 of armor and a chest of gold. That's who I I don't care if you 1033 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,960 got hurt. What did you give me? 1034 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,480 What spoils of war or did I get? That's who I remember. 1035 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,720 That's one. Thing but I think it's just like 1036 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:41,720 yeah, yeah. If he had 500 people die, you 1037 00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:44,160 think he remembers a man who took a wound and not like, you 1038 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,520 can't remember 500 people who died, could you, Sean? 1039 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,480 I couldn't no way. I never could have. 1040 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,080 I don't care how good of the Lord I am. 1041 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:50,960 I. Wouldn't have known their names 1042 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,800 in the 1st place I know. I'm not going to have known 1043 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,520 them, and that's the sad fact. But I think even the best, Lord 1044 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,000 knows very few of those 800 men, maybe even if they know 10%, 1045 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,240 that's only 80 men. That's 80 men. 10% is a lot. 1046 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,480 Yeah, this is this is some of dunks naivete. 1047 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,920 He, he doesn't realize that that that's a reality. 1048 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,520 Like Sir Manfred is isn't friendly about it, but he's 1049 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,320 exasperated because he's like, what the hell do you think, man? 1050 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,920 How am I supposed to know that guy, you know? 1051 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,880 On one hand I agree with everything you're saying. 1052 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,840 Like it is like a little unrealistic to expect him to 1053 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,240 remember 1 of many men who served at some point and got 1054 00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:30,120 wounded. However, if you were going to 1055 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,240 remember some of the men who served under you, you're more 1056 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:35,880 likely to remember the landed Knights. 1057 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,640 If 500 men died at that battle, that wasn't 500 Knights. 1058 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,000 That was 500 hedge Knights and peasants like Dunk and everyone 1059 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,760 else. Right, but Sir Arlen was at 1060 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,800 Knights. He should have been remembered. 1061 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,600 Not a landed knight though, right? 1062 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,480 I guess maybe not a landed knight. 1063 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,280 Yeah, but but also, one way or the other, even if he doesn't 1064 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,400 specifically remember him, he could have been like, yeah, no 1065 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,400 story sounds good. Sure, go ahead. 1066 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,760 Like he yes, he could have been kinder about it. 1067 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,560 Even if he didn't remember. Even if he justifiably didn't 1068 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,520 remember, he still could have offered up some. 1069 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,760 Yeah, absolutely. He was having none of it, just. 1070 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,840 In honor of it, he could have given him something like, yeah, 1071 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,000 sure, I'll vouch for you. Like that's all he had to do. 1072 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,040 The ask was very small. That's the other thing that made 1073 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,480 Dunk for us, was like, you know, like maybe you don't remember 1074 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,120 him, but I'm asking for so very little. 1075 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,440 And you're not doubting my story. 1076 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,520 You're just saying you can't remember. 1077 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,280 Yeah. Manfred could be like, hey, what 1078 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,440 what was what was this circumstance? 1079 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,960 Describe this. He could test him. 1080 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,120 He could just test him and it would come out the truth. 1081 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,640 You know what I mean? Because like, you don't want to 1082 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,080 vouch for someone and then they turn out to be an outlaw and 1083 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,800 someone who, you know what I mean, you. 1084 00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:40,120 Would be a little. Careful, but he could have asked 1085 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,360 him some questions. Yeah, and maybe a more what's 1086 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,640 opposite of cynical, optimistic view. 1087 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,680 Maybe Manfred knows that his voucher won't carry much weight 1088 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,160 like Manfred will say anyone's a night man. 1089 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,720 Look, Manfred's sleeping with everyone's wife. 1090 00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:57,640 Like maybe he doesn't want to expose himself. 1091 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,800 I don't. Think that's true because. 1092 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:00,640 Remember. This is the guy Palmer 1093 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,760 specifically suggested that he he go to. 1094 00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:04,360 So I don't I don't think that's true. 1095 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,000 But either way, that's there's a lot about a lot of subtext here. 1096 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,240 And I think the perhaps the biggest part that's is setting 1097 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:14,440 up is that Baylor is going to remember Sir Arlen later and 1098 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,760 it's going to be really obscure. So like this is this the 1099 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,440 forgetting of Sir Arlen is being is set up for Baylor to remember 1100 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,520 him later. So that is very meaningful in 1101 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,080 that sense too. There's also a big homage slash 1102 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,960 Comic Relief Easter egg in the scene, the sex worker who 1103 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,800 appears to be dead because she has the the the painted eye 1104 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,680 stones over her eyes. That is an homage to episode 1, 1105 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,120 season 1 of Game of Thrones where John Aaron is like that 1106 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,600 and Cersei and Jamie are talking to him. 1107 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,240 And so in this scene, our subconscious is like, oh, that's 1108 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,400 a dead person. So it's very effective when she 1109 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,360 sits up. It even works on Dunk. 1110 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,760 It's like, whoa, he's creeped out for a second there. 1111 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,520 That was really funny. Let's talk about the fossa ways. 1112 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,400 I thought the casting for Raymond and Stefan was, I mean, 1113 00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,920 you could, I couldn't imagine better. 1114 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:01,520 Really. The dialogue was almost 1115 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:06,200 identical. The four yes 4 apple puns were 1116 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,040 all in the book. Not ripe yet that's in the book. 1117 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,800 Rotten to the core that's in the book. 1118 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,680 Knocked the seeds out of him in the book. 1119 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,120 The senior branch of the apple tree in the book. 1120 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,920 Is that a long sword you wear? Yes, it's mine by rights that's 1121 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,720 in the book. However, his response, that's an 1122 00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:23,680 odd thing to say, is not. And that was really funny, that 1123 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,680 was. One of my favorite lines in the 1124 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,280 in the show. Actually this. 1125 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:32,120 Delivery was perfect they're if you look closely, you can see 1126 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,960 that their weapons are leather bound so that they're not the 1127 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,840 edges are taken away. So it's a little more it's it's 1128 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,840 still not realistic to how they were trained, but it's a lot 1129 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,040 more realistic than a lot of other scenes and a lot of other 1130 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,800 shows including Game of Thrones and House the Dragon where 1131 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,280 they're just fighting with completely normal weapons to 1132 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,640 practice without armor. It's crazy, but there's. 1133 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,280 Something in between deadly and safe. 1134 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,840 You know what I mean? Like, they're not. 1135 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,000 It's not deadly, but it's still not safe. 1136 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,160 Yeah, I mean, that dude just got kicked through it. 1137 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,720 Yeah, I'm sure splinters at the very least, you know, bruises on 1138 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,280 the face, like he slapped him in the face. 1139 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,920 Yeah. And then the second conversation 1140 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,240 where Raymond sees Dunk walking by and runs after him, that's 1141 00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:13,880 also not too dissimilar from the book where Raymond just comes up 1142 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,960 to him and apologizes and says, hey, I'm sorry because he's a 1143 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:17,640 good guy, too. This. 1144 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,800 This shows us that Raymond's a good guy. 1145 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,600 He didn't have to tell Dunk. He didn't have to tell Dunk that 1146 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,720 hey, I'm sorry I almost set you up to get hurt. 1147 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,200 My cousin would have tried to hurt you on purpose and I feel 1148 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,080 bad that I almost put you in that position. 1149 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,040 I shouldn't have done that. And if he, he could have never 1150 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,120 told Dunk that and Dunk would not have been the wiser. 1151 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,280 So this is a a really strong signal for what kind of man this 1152 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,600 guy is too. And it's why they walk and talk 1153 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,640 and are getting along 'cause they are the rare kind of like 1154 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,560 good seed. Ha ha. 1155 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:49,480 I made my own Apple pun. And did you get Podrick Payne 1156 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,240 vibes from from Raymond? Because men did I it's it's very 1157 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,360 similar in my mind. I did. 1158 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,160 And and I also do want to point out though, that they made 1159 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,880 Stefan a little harsher here than he was in a book. 1160 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,200 He was a little more. It was like you you a little 1161 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,400 more needed the explanation for Raymond that he might have tried 1162 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,840 to hurt you because Stefan didn't come across quite so 1163 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,400 aggressive in the book. It was he was a little bit more 1164 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,600 cordial when he's asking him to fight and he realized after the 1165 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,560 fact that, oh, he's trying to trick you. 1166 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:29,320 He's being underhanded, and here he's an outward, obvious jerk. 1167 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,640 In the book, he was a little bit more of a underhanded, you know, 1168 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,480 secret jerk. Yeah, I think, I don't think 1169 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,240 Stephen calls him any names in the book here. 1170 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,720 He calls him three different names in the short of the span 1171 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,440 of that brief conversation. But it was a good example. 1172 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,880 It was elegant story writing, elegant to what's the word 1173 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,440 adaptation? Because in the book, Dunk goes 1174 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,680 into town almost automatically, knowing he shouldn't stay there. 1175 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,480 He already has it in his mind that he will be, at minimum, 1176 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,000 scorned at, if not openly mocked. 1177 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,600 I can't stay here. But in the show, we don't get to 1178 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,080 hear those thoughts in his brain. 1179 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,000 So it's demonstrated to us through this scene. 1180 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,080 It's like at this moment, when Stefan insults him and a bunch 1181 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,960 of other people laugh, he realizes, oh, let me go find a 1182 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,520 choir to place. This isn't for me. 1183 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:19,880 You know what I mean? Someone where I'm not going to 1184 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,720 get mocked for what I look like, all right, How he's dressed. 1185 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,160 If he'd walked by an armor, like nice looking armor, people would 1186 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,760 stop to look at him and like went whoa, you know, it would 1187 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,280 have been like an awe or respect or something. 1188 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,320 But yeah, so his his size would have. 1189 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,680 Been like hey come try me out and think he could break his 1190 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,360 hand. Stuff like, oh crap, I don't 1191 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,680 hope I don't have to go against him. 1192 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,840 Yeah, exactly. So his size, it's, it's really 1193 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,880 interesting how his size is such a part of the story here. 1194 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,160 And there's another one coming in a minute. 1195 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,080 But let me let's finish this scene because I got one more 1196 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,080 thing to say here, or two more actually. 1197 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,560 I love how happy Raymond got when Dunk told me it's well for 1198 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,880 a Squire, which is another like Podrick Payne vibe from from 1199 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,760 that exchange. And then the line where he says, 1200 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,920 who are you going to? You'll have the look of a 1201 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,000 challenger. Who do you, whose shield are you 1202 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,120 going to tap tomorrow? And he says, oh, you choose, 1203 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,120 doesn't matter. And then it does a pause and he 1204 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,600 says that's what you're supposed to say. 1205 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,200 When it actually makes all the difference in the world, That's 1206 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,720 just Dunk's inner monologue in the book. 1207 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,080 He thinks all three of those things to himself in the book. 1208 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,320 So it's it's another great example of a simple thought he 1209 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,800 has that's easily turned into dialogue. 1210 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,600 Can I say another thing about this scene or these 1211 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,360 interactions, which was not quite as much in the book, At 1212 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,160 least I didn't pick on it up on it as much. 1213 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,320 But it was a little bit of a dunk's imposter syndrome, his 1214 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,640 realization that he doesn't really belong here. 1215 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,520 When he tells Raymond that he fights good for a Squire, 1216 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,920 Raymond takes that as like, oh wow, someone's complimenting on 1217 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,960 me how good I am fighting. But in Dunks mind, he's like, 1218 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:49,600 crap, I'm not near as good as him and he's just a Squire. 1219 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,960 How he's like, he's just a Squire. 1220 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,720 Ostensibly, the Knights are better than him. 1221 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,440 I'm really just a Squire too, and he's way better than me. 1222 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,440 Like, how can I compete? You know that he he wanted to 1223 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,520 compliment Raymond, but really he was thinking less of himself. 1224 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,280 Does that make sense? That's a. 1225 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,720 Good point. And like Dunk hasn't fought with 1226 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,240 a sword like he hasn't. That's another thing. 1227 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,920 He's like not only is he kind of maybe fudging some other 1228 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,720 details, literally hasn't ever sword fought someone. 1229 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,760 Maybe he's fought like trained a little bit with Sir Ireland, but 1230 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,120 it wasn't, you know, they weren't fighting in Herb for 1231 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,640 real. You know, it was it was it was 1232 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,080 training and I love that. And even and. 1233 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,320 Trini they weren't fighting As for real as Raymond and and 1234 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,760 Stefan. Would absolutely I love the half 1235 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,280 man line. That's another great joke, which 1236 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,360 again is a Podrick Payne reference because Podrick was 1237 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,320 Tyrion Squire and that the half man joke of course is the 1238 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,680 opposite. He's like oh, he's like, do I 1239 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,600 look like 1/2 man to you? I half man half giant. 1240 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,120 Another really well delivered joke. 1241 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,040 Love that. OK, let's take a quick break and 1242 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,040 then we'll come back with a whole lot more. 1243 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,400 If you are wanting to support us during this Heads Night Night of 1244 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,080 the Seven Kingdoms season, you can do through do so through 1245 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,880 Patreon. 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It's really nice looking. 1257 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,520 Get your own through that link. And of course, we also have 1258 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,680 links to other things on our site, like links to Amazon. 1259 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,360 You can do your shopping there and we get credit for that 1260 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:45,160 without you spending any more. A couple of questions from the 1261 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,240 y'all or comments. Corn Emperor says, is Sean 1262 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,480 drinking anything with Mountain Dew? 1263 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,440 Yeah, Sean, we, we didn't do your beverage today. 1264 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:52,840 Are you doing a special beverage? 1265 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,840 My bad for not asking. This is the Naked Green Drink or 1266 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:03,080 the Yeah Green Machine mixed with Magic Mind mixed with Baja 1267 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,240 Blast Mountain Dew. So yes is the answer. 1268 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,200 Yes. Short answer, yes. 1269 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,600 You came through very good, Sean. 1270 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,920 You did not disappoint, Darwonka says. 1271 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,520 I'm not sure if they're leaning into it, but Egg, it seems Egg 1272 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,200 has a little bit that Targ shine about him. 1273 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,280 He seems to just know things he probably couldn't know out of 1274 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,680 hand, like where Dunk had his tree for it. 1275 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,880 Yeah, that's just one of the undertones in the book where he 1276 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,920 he knows a few things that are kind of beyond his capability. 1277 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,200 But it all happens so quickly and subtly that you don't 1278 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,480 necessarily can't put it together quickly enough. 1279 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,240 And I think this is a a jumping point to a conversation about 1280 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,200 how they're handling this, which is they have to be even more 1281 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,200 subtle with it because if you're reading the book, you're reading 1282 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,920 the book, you're going to pick it up again the next day or the 1283 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,280 day after that. Maybe you finish it in one 1284 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,440 setting. What you're not doing is 1285 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,880 spending a week in between readings while also interacting 1286 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,200 with the entirety of the Internet about what they think 1287 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,240 rewatching it. Multiple times, Paul's rewind, 1288 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,840 writing quotes down, reading forms of analysis, and on and 1289 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:03,560 on. Yeah. 1290 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,800 It's way different, Yeah. So. 1291 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,320 So they have to be a little more sly with some of these things 1292 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,080 because it's just going to like you have like 1,000,000 more 1293 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,120 brains all working together on these on these questions. 1294 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,960 So not to mention that the answers are already out there, 1295 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,440 like in plain written English in the in the books or whatever. 1296 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:26,560 So let's move on to party at the Laughing storms. 1297 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,120 In the book, Raymond takes dunk to a party. 1298 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,640 We we talked briefly about that and they just changed it to the 1299 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,320 laughing storm party. And it's earlier in the novella 1300 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,960 rather than later. It's a completely new scene. 1301 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,560 Something important about the setting that here is reminiscent 1302 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:46,720 of House of the Dragon is that you have high nobles who haven't 1303 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,240 lived under any under any major threat for over a decade if not 1304 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,200 more. The Blackfyre Rebellion being 1305 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,560 that example. So there's more partying, people 1306 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,600 just aren't worried as much. And how's the dragon? 1307 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,120 It's the same thing. They've been at peace for so 1308 01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,760 long. People just like when they get a 1309 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,320 chance to fight for fake, they make it a little bit real 1310 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,520 because they have so much verve. There's the nights of summer 1311 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,160 with nowhere to put that violent energy in. 1312 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,360 In Game of Thrones, Robert's Rebellion isn't super long ago. 1313 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,840 It's, you know, 17 years. It's more than a generation. 1314 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,200 But Bailon's rebellion is only about 8 years past. 1315 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,440 So there's a a lot of the current adults in that setting 1316 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,000 have fought in multiple wars. Now in this one, there's some 1317 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,560 who have fought in the black fire building, but there's a lot 1318 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,000 of adults who haven't fought in anything, nothing significant at 1319 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,280 all. So it has that vibe of a 1320 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,400 peaceful king. In both cases, dare on the 2nd 1321 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,560 it's actually a good king, whereas Viserys wasn't actually 1322 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,360 a good king but he was very strong in the not starting wars 1323 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:47,160 department even though well in his lifetime he set up one after 1324 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,280 his death. But that aside, we're not going 1325 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,040 too deep with this parallel so that. 1326 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,400 Very strong. Very strong in the intention to 1327 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,200 not start wars, yes. There you go. 1328 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:56,880 There you go. Results. 1329 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,840 May vary, yeah. So here it's another another 1330 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,600 thing that's similar is that there are too many Targaryens. 1331 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,400 There's a lot of Targaryens, and as Makar or Deron says, I think 1332 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,680 it's Deron. The king says too many 1333 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,880 Targaryens can be as dangerous as too few. 1334 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,760 And that's partly why Eamon goes off to be Maester Eamon in this 1335 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,600 timeline. It's been decades since the 1336 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,960 Dragons died out, and there are living people in this setting 1337 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,640 who saw the last dragon, including Sir Arlen of Penny 1338 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,440 Tree himself, which is a thought that Dunk has. 1339 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,200 I wonder how they're going to have that in the show. 1340 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,840 Is he going to say that out loud or what? 1341 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,280 Because it's obviously can't be thought. 1342 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,240 It could be sort of thought because we got little Arlen 1343 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,000 flashbacks. That's a good point. 1344 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,680 We get a flashback to Arlen telling the story of the dragon. 1345 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,280 So far they've been just the quickest little images. 1346 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,040 But I we might get like a whole conversation as they walk down 1347 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,800 the road or sit at a campfire, you know? 1348 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,440 Yeah, and one of the reasons I bring this up as as we start 1349 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,680 talking about Laughing Storm, here is 2 reasons. 1 is that he 1350 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:03,600 clearly is not a young man. He's not an old man, but he is 1351 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,840 Gray in his beard, which indicates that he's probably in 1352 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,400 his 40s at least. 25 or 20? Oh, 40. 1353 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,280 So he would have fought in the Black Fire rebellion almost 1354 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,480 certainly. So that is important because in 1355 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,200 the book we're not sure if he's even the heir at this point. 1356 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,480 We know he inherits. So it's a safe assumption. 1357 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,040 It's a fair. I would have done the same thing 1358 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:23,080 they did. We'll say, well, let's just 1359 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,280 let's just go ahead and say he's the heir. 1360 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,640 We don't know that for sure because it allows them to do 1361 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,400 this. Like, he's spending a lot. 1362 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,920 He's, you know, breaking. He's just doing what he wants, 1363 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,200 throwing money around. And that creates this huge 1364 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,480 contrast between him and Dunk, which is despite these 1365 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,960 differences, there's something they have in common, something 1366 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,080 that brings them together. And I think it's pretty well 1367 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,160 done. Let's talk specifically, 1368 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,560 something we brought up in the preview is that none of the show 1369 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,640 Baratheons are large. They just did away with that. 1370 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,560 Stannis isn't large. Robert isn't large. 1371 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,360 Renly isn't large. In the books, they're all very 1372 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,600 big men, so that here we go, Laughing Storm, not big either. 1373 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,200 And they referenced that Dunk sits down and says, I thought 1374 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:05,440 he'd be larger. So in the book, the Laughing 1375 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,640 Storm is he? He laughed as he's beating 1376 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:08,760 people. He's like, ha, ha. 1377 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,680 It's so easy. That's kind of the implication 1378 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,600 that it's so easy for him that he just laughs. 1379 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,360 It's like, ah, you, we little man, you can't beat me and that. 1380 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,439 But he's also a little clever in that he starts using his Lance 1381 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:24,000 to knock the heraldry off of fancy men's helmets and it and 1382 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,319 then he throws that hail tree into this into the crowd for the 1383 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:29,000 Commons to collect. And then so fancy highborn 1384 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,880 people stop challenging him because they don't want to lose 1385 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,080 their their wealthy, expensive helmets. 1386 01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:35,880 And that was that's maybe part of his strategy. 1387 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,319 Like on the other hand, he wants to fight the Kingsguard. 1388 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,080 And that is referenced here as well when he says it's a it's an 1389 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,560 honor to test yourself against a worthy foe. 1390 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,960 So that's all part of the character that we know. 1391 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,439 And I think this is a big deal with this character because of 1392 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,720 all the main characters, Raymond, Stefan, all the 1393 01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,840 Targaryens, Dunk himself, especially Duncan and AG and 1394 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,720 etcetera, they all are. We have an idea of their 1395 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,520 personality. In my opinion, Laughing Storm 1396 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,880 of, of the people that are in Dunk circle at the end, he by 1397 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,720 far is the one that we don't know about his personality. 1398 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,760 He's just a guy that laughs and is wants to fight. 1399 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,160 That's really it. So here they're like, let's give 1400 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,600 a better reason for Laughing Storm to be on Dunk's side other 1401 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,160 than he wants to fight the Kingsguard. 1402 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,960 While they also make him a little bit of a lunatic, he's 1403 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,720 just a little bit unhinged, which is also explains why he's 1404 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,760 so eager to fight the Kingsguard. 1405 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,000 Like what? What I. 1406 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,840 Liked in the making of the Daniel Ng said the log line, the 1407 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,279 description for him that the character was Jack Sparrow mixed 1408 01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:41,439 with Ernest Hemingway. And yeah, boy does that 1409 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,080 translate. He nailed it. 1410 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,960 Frankly, go ahead, Sean. I've been talking for a while, 1411 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,479 so I'll come back with some more thoughts on the scene, but you 1412 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,240 go ahead for a bit. I don't have a whole lot more to 1413 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,760 say. I mean, overall, I like the 1414 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,160 scene. I think is well done. 1415 01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:57,360 I didn't have any super particular notes other than 1416 01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,200 things you're you're hitting on already. 1417 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,760 Yeah, I saw you put in the document that it reminds you of 1418 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,520 Peter Dinklage. That's totally where my mind 1419 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,080 went is that he look just looks and in a lot of ways acts like 1420 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,000 Tyrion. He doesn't have like both the 1421 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,840 physical capability and the confidence that comes with it. 1422 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,240 Tyrion is lacking. Tyrion has a different sort of 1423 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:20,000 capability and and confidence, but what they both have in 1424 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,800 common are wanting to drink and party and have clever 1425 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:28,160 conversations and looking exactly the freaking the same. 1426 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,120 Yeah, especially from the side angle. 1427 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,400 He really, it really struck me from the side when he was 1428 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,800 sitting by each other rather than head face on. 1429 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,960 He looked a little more like Oscar Isaac to me, which also 1430 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,760 was pretty good like. Oscar Isaac and I don't know 1431 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,640 what point. The thing is, he looks so, so 1432 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,280 much to me. I think it can't be a pure 1433 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,880 coincidence. It might have been a coincidence 1434 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,960 at casting, but they had to decide this sort of hair and the 1435 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,080 curl and the goatee and all that stuff. 1436 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,360 I, I, I I'm confident they made that model after Tyrion, after 1437 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,440 Peter Dinkwich. So there's a few different 1438 01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:02,080 characters throughout a song in Life and Fire history. 1439 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,040 They're called The Laughing Something like the Laughing Lion 1440 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,000 is Tyrion's uncle Jerian. It's pretty explicit that Jerian 1441 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,200 was a cynical, joking guy, sarcastic joking guy. 1442 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,320 So Laughing Lion was very fitting where this Laughing 1443 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,480 storm is because he's a little unhinged. 1444 01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:26,960 He also laughs, but it's it's more of the loon style laughter, 1445 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:31,480 a little bit crazy than the than the sense of humor. 1446 01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:34,640 Foot forward first. Although to be fair, Uncle 1447 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,440 Jerian sailed to Valyria, which is a bit mad itself, so hey. 1448 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,840 Anyway, another. He's the one that lost their 1449 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,760 Valerian blade there, no? He's the one that went to try 1450 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,480 and find it. OK. 1451 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:46,920 Yeah. You're close. 1452 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,520 Yeah. So another thing that I love 1453 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,280 about this scene, I think it's one of the biggest points of the 1454 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:57,320 scene, is what I LED with in terms of developing Lionel's 1455 01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,520 character more so that he has a better connection to Dunk. 1456 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,360 Here's what happens. Let's recount some of the 1457 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,840 action, and we'll analyze as we go. 1458 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,280 Here, he gets called out. He's like, you come over here, 1459 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,640 right? And Dunk is like me. 1460 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,840 And at first it might be like, why is Dunk getting selected out 1461 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,840 of all these people? Well, it's because he's way 1462 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,240 taller than everybody and is the poorest dressed by far. 1463 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,560 So he he really, really does stand out a lot. 1464 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:20,960 Like he stands out like a sore thumb. 1465 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,680 So they're not going to just he can't blend in. 1466 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,280 I think he'd slouch all he wants. 1467 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,560 He cannot blend in. So they are curious naturally 1468 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,480 about who this guy is. And Lionel, being a very rich 1469 01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:34,920 man, the son of a great Lord, of one of the most powerful Lords 1470 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,680 in the Kingdom, he does narrow almost everything down because 1471 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,800 it's his life, because it's the life he lives. 1472 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,040 Almost everybody does want his help, or his head, as he puts 1473 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,840 it. Most people want his head. 1474 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,760 I mean, his help. The help is more valuable 1475 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,840 getting taking his head. I want his head. 1476 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:51,640 We always. No, I don't. 1477 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,960 I want his head. She wants his head. 1478 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:59,600 So here's the exception. So he really from his point of 1479 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,640 view, that is what almost everyone wants something from 1480 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,440 him, right? He's rich, he can, he can 1481 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:05,840 provide things so it makes sense. 1482 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,280 And so then he has that hilarious. 1483 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,920 He's like, oh, you're here for my head. 1484 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:11,440 Must be you're here for my head then, since you're not here for 1485 01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:13,640 my help. And Jack's like what, what it's 1486 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,560 so funny. But then he's like, no, I'm, I'm 1487 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,480 here for food. And then I'm, I'm really just 1488 01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:21,360 hungry. And, and, and Lionel, it takes 1489 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,080 him a minute and his delivery is so good, but he's like, yeah, 1490 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,880 actually that makes sense because he thinks Thor's like, 1491 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,920 yeah, you're broke. Makes sense that you would want 1492 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,520 a free meal. You know, that actually does 1493 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,400 make sense. And also it makes sense in other 1494 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,920 levels too, like the person coming to get his head wouldn't 1495 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,920 be such an obvious person, right? 1496 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,280 They wouldn't, you know what I mean? 1497 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,680 They would be sneaking, wearing black with a dagger or something 1498 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,960 that big open poor man's clothes, right? 1499 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,320 And probably the same thing for someone that would want his 1500 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:55,200 help, probably wouldn't be so bold is to just show up and eat 1501 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,400 his food and dance around and like, oh, by the way, I want 1502 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,480 something, you know, like it. It is on multiple levels. 1503 01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:03,800 It it it and it also makes Sante He's a big dude. 1504 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,040 He's hungry. And it's exactly specifically 1505 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,280 true because Raymond said are you hungry Dunks like always. 1506 01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:14,280 And if Raymond brought him here, he didn't necessarily know that 1507 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,760 this was the Laughing Storm's party or anything. 1508 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,720 Even some other noble Family Guy. 1509 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,520 Brought a minute. That's it, Yes. 1510 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,200 You. Know right so yeah, if you've 1511 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:29,240 ever known anyone who's 6 foot 5 like Peter Claffey is they I've 1512 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,200 heard them say that yeah, they're pretty much hungry all 1513 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,160 the time so it's very believable so this is. 1514 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,600 I must be 6 foot 5. Imagine you if you were 6 foot 1515 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,680 five, you were just eating all the time. 1516 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,480 So of all the people that Dunk disarmed with his wholesomeness 1517 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,440 after people expect that he's got he's up to something and 1518 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:49,680 then they're they, they pull back the curtain and they're 1519 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,520 like, oh, wholesomeness. That's what's behind there. 1520 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,400 It's not something dastardly or sneaky. 1521 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,800 It really is what's he's really what he seems to be. 1522 01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:02,880 And that immediately makes Lionel like him because he's 1523 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,000 like, you don't want anything from me. 1524 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,040 That's I don't know anyone like that. 1525 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,120 That's amazing. I want people more people like 1526 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,920 this in my life. I don't know anyone who doesn't 1527 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,720 want things from me. So it's extremely refreshing. 1528 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,000 So at first I didn't, I was like this, is this a little bit too 1529 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,120 much having these two become friends? 1530 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,760 And then I realized, no, it's perfect. 1531 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,800 They nailed like the the thinking that went into the 1532 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,200 scene is it seems kind of random and manic and chaotic and just 1533 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,040 they're showing partying. But there is a lot of character 1534 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,480 work going on here. Set up and foreshadowing. 1535 01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,200 Yeah, like the the, as I said before, the big, the shadowing, 1536 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,440 the foreshadowing of him saying it's an honor to test yourself 1537 01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:39,400 against a worthy foe. That's one of the big lines 1538 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,560 there where he's going to face the Kingsguard. 1539 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:43,640 I even like the stomping game and. 1540 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,800 The second thought about that, I mean, the big he's going to face 1541 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,800 Lionel, right? Like that's one thing of one 1542 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:50,680 day. That's true. 1543 01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:51,640 That's true. They're going to face each 1544 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:52,400 other. That's very true. 1545 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,800 The other bit that I thought that was resident character beat 1546 01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:01,360 for for Lionel was talking about seafaring and and the the ocean 1547 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,760 and all that. Especially when you consider in 1548 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,440 A Game of Thrones Stannis and Robert and Renly losing their 1549 01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:12,040 their parents to the sea. Lionel could have easily been 1550 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,880 one of those Baratheons lost to the sea, but he wasn't and so it 1551 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,040 it made sense for that to be a a tale he would tell. 1552 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,000 Yeah, well said. I also really like the line and 1553 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,240 it was maybe a little bit of a reference to original Game of 1554 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,320 Thrones because, you know, wasn't it? 1555 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,240 Am I remember right? Isn't it Ned Stark that says you 1556 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,440 have to be afraid in order to be brave? 1557 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,080 Isn't? That yeah, yeah. 1558 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,840 That effect? Because Dunk asked Lionel. 1559 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,000 Weren't you scared? And he says inside every man, 1560 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,400 there are many men basically saying, yeah, part of me was 1561 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,080 scared, but another part of me was bright, you know? 1562 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:46,760 So yeah, I think it's a good line. 1563 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,320 A good yeah. That was a good line. 1564 01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,480 You're right. Yeah, it's so good. 1565 01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:53,000 That scene is just so, so good. And OK, another thing that I 1566 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,640 thought you might have seemed gratuitous or weird to some of 1567 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,000 y'all. And once I thought about it, I 1568 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,760 was like, oh, there's actually some purpose here, which was the 1569 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,280 the weird stomping game where they were trying to stomp on 1570 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,080 each other's feet. To me, this was like, it's like 1571 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:09,040 a milder version of the finger dance, you know, like you could 1572 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,080 get broken toes doing this. These are large, strong men with 1573 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,440 big boots, you know what I'm saying? 1574 01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:14,680 So they could really hurt each other. 1575 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,480 But but it's a, it's a matter of quickness. 1576 01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:19,280 Like you're, it's a, it's a martial game. 1577 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,400 You're moving your feet and it shows that Dunk is light on his 1578 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,640 feet. Like he's a big strong guy, but 1579 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,640 he's also maneuver like he's moving around quickly. 1580 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,440 And he beats Lionel in this game, which is well, that's 1581 01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:31,720 meaningful. Lionel's drunk, to be fair, but 1582 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,640 still, that's meaningful. It is interesting that Lionel 1583 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,040 chose this game to play with Dunk because maybe a little bit 1584 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,120 of a test for him. And he later does say Dunk says, 1585 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,440 sure, I'm quick and I'm strong. And so I think that that scene 1586 01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:47,800 shows some of his quickness, right? 1587 01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,920 And and and Lionel responds and and Dunk says, but so were you 1588 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,760 and Lionel's ago? Well, yes, I am. 1589 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,360 I am. But anyway, I think I went a 1590 01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,800 step further, Aziz, I suspect this might specifically come 1591 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,640 into play later. I bet there's going to be some 1592 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,480 sword fight action later where someone stomps or attempts to 1593 01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:12,000 stomp on someone's foot. OK, I like that idea. 1594 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,840 We'll see. That's a cool idea. 1595 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,640 So just one mother, one other tidbit about the scene in 1596 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,600 general. Ira Parker, who of course is the 1597 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,520 showrunner, he loves dancing scenes. 1598 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,560 He loves dance scenes. He just put that out. 1599 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,880 And earlier, I skipped this over by accident, Apparently Owen 1600 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,920 Harris, the director, he did a Monty Python was a documentary 1601 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,960 or yeah. So that's that also fits super 1602 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,280 well. But yeah, Ira Parker compared 1603 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,760 this scene to Fiddler on the Roof, which is great comparison. 1604 01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:43,720 Yeah. It also resolves with Manfred 1605 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,080 Dondarian. So it gets right back to what 1606 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,680 Dunk was trying to do all day long. 1607 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,840 So it kind of brings us back to his search and that's what we've 1608 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,040 already discussed the conversation about Manfred and 1609 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,520 how that went. But there's a couple more things 1610 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,840 I'll say about it from a different perspective. 1 is that 1611 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:04,880 they they dropped the the book line of him also just retelling 1612 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,320 the Dondarian legend of the purple lightning and the 1613 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,680 messengers. They they didn't bother having 1614 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,480 to do that. Maybe he'll do that later but 1615 01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:12,480 seemed I can understand why they dropped that. 1616 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,480 I wonder if with Manfred limping away the city of Gowdy Toes, I 1617 01:19:17,480 --> 01:19:21,040 felt I feel like this is an homage to Harry Strickland, who 1618 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,280 they didn't really use the book version of Harry Strickland in 1619 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,440 the show. They just had like this 1620 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:29,040 professional looking commander who got wiped out by Drogon like 1621 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,920 all the rest of the Golden Company did in the show. 1622 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,960 So they never went with Gowdy Toes, Harry Strickland version. 1623 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,040 So this this could be kind of like that. 1624 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,080 We'll just use that here. So and then they have that. 1625 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,920 You know, that that fun joke. I you said, well, I thought you 1626 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,720 said you were a Dornishman. No, he said he was hung like a 1627 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:43,640 Dornishman. No, I said. 1628 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:49,680 I hung Dornishman. Fun, very dark, dark joke, just 1629 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,640 good word play, but really really heavy honestly. 1630 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,040 Yeah, also in terms of those of you who are really deep into the 1631 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,480 lore, we there's been a long like theorizing, not just about 1632 01:19:59,480 --> 01:20:02,360 the Laughing Storm and, and how old he was and how he fell into 1633 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,360 the succession line. That was a little easier because 1634 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,960 of how he definitely inherits eventually with Manfred, it's 1635 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,040 what we always wondered what his connection to Jenna Dondarian 1636 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,520 was because Jenna is Baylor Brakespear's wife and of course 1637 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,040 the mother of their children. So we were wondering if Manfred 1638 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:24,280 is perhaps uncle. To, you know, Valar and and all 1639 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,080 them and we do see Manfred is one of the people in that 1640 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,160 funeral scene. We get that clip of the funeral 1641 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,800 right over Valar's right shoulder is Manfred. 1642 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,880 It might give him a little more leeway in his arrogance. 1643 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,880 And yes. Who is in laws are. 1644 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,680 Exploits with women and everything else when it's hard 1645 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,040 for anyone to say anything to him if he's a King's step 1646 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,480 brother. What's the word I'm looking for? 1647 01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:46,400 We don't know. Exactly. 1648 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:47,720 That's what the. Law or whatever. 1649 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,680 I think Sybil, I think brother-in-law, yeah, because 1650 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,920 he's probably this around the same age as Jenna, who is the 1651 01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,120 one that's married to the Targaryens or. 1652 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,640 Nephew in law. Or nephew in law. 1653 01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,040 Yeah, something like that. Foreign Emperor says join the 1654 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,640 Patreon in Discord if you haven't already. 1655 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,280 Yes, thank you. Join the Patreon in Discord if 1656 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,080 you haven't already. We do also have a Facebook 1657 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,400 discussion page, but yeah, I hadn't mentioned the Discord 1658 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,200 today, so that's a good one. We have that link in the 1659 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,360 description as well. TK OK Podcast Network says 1660 01:21:11,480 --> 01:21:13,760 Laughing Storm was always my favorite nickname in the books. 1661 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,200 Dunk scene with him was easily my favorite Laughing Storm. 1662 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,240 Best hang in Westeros. Definitely best at eating food 1663 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,880 with a Warhammer. I think he's very capricious in 1664 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,480 a way that you would want to be very careful hanging out with 1665 01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:29,240 him that if you, if you just say the wrong thing, I think he 1666 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,200 could really turn on you in a dime. 1667 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,040 You know what I mean? So I, I, I think he would be a 1668 01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,600 great hang, but I think you'd be better off hanging out with 1669 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:41,040 Tyrion Lannister, who would not probably like have you burned as 1670 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,600 a heretic? He was joking about that. 1671 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:47,000 But I do think Lionel probably snaps sometimes and really hurts 1672 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,040 people and and. Yeah, I think you're right. 1673 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:51,880 Here's. A society. 1674 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,040 You know, I think he he, he could ruin someone if he wants 1675 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,880 to, and he often probably wants to. 1676 01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:02,120 Yeah, if Dunk had been someone more nefarious, right? 1677 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,880 If Dunk hadn't been who he had been, if it turned out he was 1678 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,320 there with a poison dagger or something, he it would have been 1679 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,320 the new main feature of the tournament to have him tortured 1680 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:12,800 to death in public or something, right? 1681 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,880 Yeah, that's true. So let's talk about the music a 1682 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,640 little bit there. Did that little joke at the 1683 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:18,800 beginning with the original theme. 1684 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,440 It started to play the original music and then Dunk starts using 1685 01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:23,640 the bathroom. We talked about it a little bit. 1686 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,920 I would like to talk about it a little bit more before it. 1687 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,960 A lot of people didn't like that scene and I get some gratuitous 1688 01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,960 element to it, yadda yadda. In my, in my opinion, it's just 1689 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,880 like kind of a weirdly unrealistic position to take. 1690 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,000 I think it is. And this is what Ira Parker, 1691 01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:42,120 what Ira Parker and them have said. 1692 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:47,080 It was important to them to really set the tone so early to 1693 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,160 like have an editing decision like that to where you hear the 1694 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,160 swelling epic Game of Thrones music and then you cut to 1695 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:57,680 something comicals, crass, mundane even. 1696 01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,000 You know what I mean. Comment. 1697 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,400 And so, yeah, I think maybe the execution could be better. 1698 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,960 But I I will argue that it was an important editing beat. 1699 01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,000 Yeah, I like we said, it's a different. 1700 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,480 There's more to it than just. They weren't just making a crass 1701 01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:12,000 joke. Yeah. 1702 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,720 A lot of people are turned off by being a crass joke, which I 1703 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,600 get. And, you know, I didn't exactly 1704 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,640 like it or whatever, but I did like it from like you said, she 1705 01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,080 has sort of a, an editing, writing, storytelling 1706 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,280 perspective. It was a good gear shift. 1707 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,560 It was a, you know, humorous moments, even if it was gross, 1708 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,920 lots of gross moments or get humor out of them on top of all 1709 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,720 that too, for better or worse. And I this also, I don't mean 1710 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,320 this to sound as cynical as it might, but it's kind of a good 1711 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,880 marketing decision, right? It we're all freaking talking 1712 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,000 about it, right? Oh yeah. 1713 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,640 It caught our attention. It wasn't what we expected. 1714 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,160 We were we, whether we're laughing about it or grossed 1715 01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:55,080 out, very few people are going to not watch this show because 1716 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,600 of that and everyone is going to talk about that. 1717 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,760 You know, I even though I get that it was kind of weird, 1718 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,080 gross, whatever, I also think it was good. 1719 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:05,720 I think it was an overall positive. 1720 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:10,080 We watched this with my mom and she said wow I didn't expect it. 1721 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,680 It's so much lighter than than she was like that last one, the 1722 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,240 dragon one had the baby seat like that's what she could 1723 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:17,200 remember so clearly. I. 1724 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:18,600 Guess that's the comparison. Yeah, that's. 1725 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,080 The comparison she's like in Game of Thrones, like she was 1726 01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,320 comparing it to those two she shows and was like, yeah, it 1727 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,280 didn't seem to faze her at all. Frankly, she was just relieved 1728 01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,520 that it was not as gruesome. Relieved. 1729 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,960 Yeah. So it's difficult to move away 1730 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,520 from such iconic music, music as Rami and Jawadi. 1731 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,800 Like that's a hard thing to be like we're we're not going to 1732 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,120 have him. But that, I mean, but they 1733 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,240 nailed it. I think the new guy's Dan 1734 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,680 Roemer. It's a very different style of 1735 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:44,720 music. It's very fitting. 1736 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,360 It's got a lot of Western vibes to it. 1737 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,880 There's a lot of slow guitar with Symphony behind it. 1738 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,200 There's that one very happy song you mentioned earlier. 1739 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,400 It sounds so much like Rainbow Connection to me. 1740 01:24:53,480 --> 01:24:56,400 We had somebody watching it with us here, Amanda, and she went at 1741 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,320 the end of the show, she's like, hey, you're a musical guy. 1742 01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,000 Did you think Rainbow Connection? 1743 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,680 I said it before she did. And she's like, yeah, that's 1744 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,080 what exactly what I was going to say. 1745 01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:06,880 So clearly I'm not the only one who caught the Rainbow 1746 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,360 Connection vibes from that one song. 1747 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,160 To give credit, the new guy, his name is Dan Romer. 1748 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,200 He did the music for Station 11, Superman and Lois, The Good 1749 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,880 Doctor. He won an ASCAP award for that 1750 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,360 one. Lilo and Stitch, Death of 1751 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,000 Unicorn, Woman of the Hour. And he's done production for 1752 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,440 Christina Aguilera and Shawn Mendes. 1753 01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,920 Yeah, real quick. Just say Station 11 was an 1754 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,480 awesome show. I highly recommend it. 1755 01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:32,880 Nice, right? Let's move forward to some stuff 1756 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,800 that I had saved to be spoiler only discussion. 1757 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,640 But well, it's we don't really mind at all now, so let's talk 1758 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,960 about it regardless. Yeah, one of the strategies as 1759 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,280 we touched on before they used to, they're cutting back on the 1760 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,760 clues for the Targaryen identities and dreams and stuff 1761 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,000 like that because of what we said about how much time people 1762 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,840 are going to take to talk about it and the Internet and all 1763 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,200 that. So I totally understand that 1764 01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,360 they do little things like say plumber says there are Princess 1765 01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:04,000 about instead of things like Dunk spending quite a bit of 1766 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,480 time thinking about who the current king is, who the 1767 01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:08,200 Princess are. He actually it's a lot of it's 1768 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,840 in his head. They remove almost all of that. 1769 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:14,680 Maybe it'll just come up later. But for now, no, like you said 1770 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,240 mentioned earlier, Sean, how they took out that line. 1771 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,960 All that guy does is drink and talk about his dreams. 1772 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:21,600 Good example. They took that out. 1773 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,880 They still he still mentioned his dreams, but they didn't they 1774 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,800 didn't like repeat it to keep the emphasis kind of milder. 1775 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,360 I would really like to know from people who don't know Game of 1776 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,240 Thrones well, if they thought that, if they thought Daron, if 1777 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,000 they recognize Daron, if they thought, is that a Targaryen? 1778 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,080 You know, I got, I feel like a lot of people will be will be 1779 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,240 wondering that It's hard for us to say a couple. 1780 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,320 Quick things. Yeah, absolutely. 1781 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,280 One, I thought it was interesting that Dunk 1782 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,720 immediately referred to him as Lord, and I think it's 1783 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,600 reasonable because he looks. He's very well dressed enough. 1784 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,760 Like, but even having color in your clothes at all, that's like 1785 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,280 dye that cost money and it's and it's a nice material with color. 1786 01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:00,480 So it's it's reasonable. And it's also probably a little 1787 01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:02,960 bit of Dunk. Like it's safer to assume that 1788 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:07,400 guy's a Lord and be wrong than to not assume he's a Lord and be 1789 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:08,360 wrong. Right? 1790 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,720 But but still, I do think it's interesting to think I can see 1791 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:16,520 someone not even assuming he's a Lord, much less a Targaryen. 1792 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,200 So I do think that's an interesting to think to ask of 1793 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,600 someone who isn't as familiar with the material. 1794 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,480 I also want to point out another what 2 sort of A2 fold thing. 1795 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:30,360 One way they're downplaying, and this is a full on spoiler, so in 1796 01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,920 case you're still watching and are worried about spoilers, I 1797 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:41,120 think that they one way they are shifting the mystery away from 1798 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:46,680 who Egg is is by shifting it toward whether or not Drunk is a 1799 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,720 knight. I think that's good, yeah. 1800 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:53,800 I think in the book, those are both mysteries, but one, and 1801 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,040 it's something George is great at doing, is he's presenting 1802 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,040 mysteries that you don't even realize or you're supposed to be 1803 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,480 figuring something out. Does that make sense? 1804 01:28:01,480 --> 01:28:04,280 Like I don't think in the book you knew, especially if you 1805 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,280 didn't know anything about the rest of the Martin world, which 1806 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,360 when his book came out, there wasn't that much more to the 1807 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,560 Martin world, right? So. 1808 01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,640 Yeah, originally this came out after Clash of Kings. 1809 01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,600 Y'all before Storm of Sora. Let's not forget that. 1810 01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:20,680 And I I think it was at least my second or third reading before 1811 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,280 it started to click into my head the idea that Dunk might not be 1812 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,280 a night. And when I started bringing up 1813 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:30,240 with other people ad nauseam, discussion had already been had. 1814 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,920 Anyone was ready to prove me why I was wrong. 1815 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,720 But but it wasn't. My point is that even reading 1816 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,800 through it a couple times with familiarity with the whole 1817 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,480 world, that still wasn't like a mystery clicking in my head when 1818 01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:44,480 I realized it was being presented that way. 1819 01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:47,360 And I look back on it, I see the different ways that they were 1820 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,680 kind of like, show him remember one thing but not remember this. 1821 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,640 And his ears get red when he's embarrassed, which is something 1822 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,080 it's hard to do on screen. So they found other ways to 1823 01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,120 demonstrate his embarrassment or whatever. 1824 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,920 But I but I'm quick to point out, well, there's some people 1825 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,920 equated the red ears to when he's lying, but that's not quite 1826 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,360 true. It's just when he's embarrassed. 1827 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,320 One time you might be embarrassed is when you lie. 1828 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,200 Anyway, I think that they're being a little bit more 1829 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,680 apparent, if not obvious about that being an issue of Dunk 1830 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,160 being a knight or not. But there you're not even 1831 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,800 realizing that there is some mystery with Egg and some things 1832 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,680 happen in a book that make it easier. 1833 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,280 Like this is another nature of writing. 1834 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,320 When you read something and so you know a little more certainly 1835 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,920 that they put that line, you can't not have your attention 1836 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:35,840 drawn to it. Does that make sense? 1837 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,240 Like if you're looking at two people in a room having a 1838 01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,120 conversation and you're looking at their Facebook expresses and 1839 01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,080 listen to what they're saying and drawing what you can from 1840 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,120 that, but you have no idea that some painting in the background 1841 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:48,880 is supposed to represent something, right? 1842 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,920 Maybe under watch when someone points out like, oh, that was a 1843 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,160 clue, right? But in the book, if they write 1844 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,160 something about the painting in the background, you can't not 1845 01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,480 notice that, you know what I mean? 1846 01:29:59,480 --> 01:30:01,000 It's too selected. Yeah, they've picked out 1847 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,200 something from all the things that are in the background to 1848 01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:04,760 describe it and it's must be important. 1849 01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:11,680 So in the book, Dunk notices eggs eyes are deep blue, almost 1850 01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:12,640 purple. Yeah. 1851 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:16,240 And then later when he sees the Aryan, he's like, oh, he's got 1852 01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:20,040 the bleach blonde hair and purple eyes, the two trademarks 1853 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,320 of a Targaryen. Well, Egg has no hair. 1854 01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:26,520 There's another way of clueing you there in ways that are way 1855 01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,120 harder to do here. If they just gave Egg purple 1856 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,440 eyes, that would be too obvious. You know what I mean? 1857 01:30:31,480 --> 01:30:32,560 So. And they've already done away 1858 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,600 with purple eyes on the show that that's the decision they 1859 01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,320 made long ago. So they just couldn't do that. 1860 01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:38,520 So that made it a little easier for them actually. 1861 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:39,760 That decision actually helped them. 1862 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,080 But another. Thing they did do, and I don't 1863 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,240 remember this from the book. I, I'm not going to say it 1864 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:45,720 wasn't there, but I don't quite remember. 1865 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:51,560 But when Dunk asks Egg, when Egg says, you know what, what would 1866 01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,320 your mom think of that? And he's like, oh, not much. 1867 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,240 She's dead. And he start, you know, he's 1868 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:56,280 ready to be mad. Egg. 1869 01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,520 But I go has a little bit of sympathy when he finds out his 1870 01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,960 mom's dead and cuts himself short of some whatever quip 1871 01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,520 insult kind of thing he's going to give him. 1872 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,720 Instead, he says, oh, are you an orphan boy? 1873 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,000 And Egg doesn't quite answer the question. 1874 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,840 He says, are you? So we're still left, I know with 1875 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,520 the implication the egg is an orphan, right? 1876 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:22,840 So I don't think if you didn't know that, you would know that 1877 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,600 that's a mystery being presented to you. 1878 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,960 And you don't know the he. He also similarly doesn't fully 1879 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,280 answer the are you from Flea bottom part. 1880 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,960 He says no, but he doesn't expand on he is. 1881 01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,080 He wasn't lie to him, he says. Are you? 1882 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:37,240 He asked him, are you an orphan boy? 1883 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:38,480 Are you? Are you from Flea Bottom? 1884 01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:39,520 No. He doesn't lie. 1885 01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:41,440 He's not a liar. He's not lying to him. 1886 01:31:41,480 --> 01:31:44,160 He's just, yeah, he's just a lie of omission. 1887 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:44,960 It's. Very clever. 1888 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,600 It's. Like the pluribus the the 1889 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,280 plurhive. So there's another one of the 1890 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,400 other kind of clues that's maybe a clue to think about it more, 1891 01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,160 not necessarily a clue of who he is is he is awfully skilled for 1892 01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,520 someone that small, which which indicates he's young. 1893 01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:02,000 This is sort of pushed back on by dunk thing. 1894 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:03,240 He doesn't look like you eat very much. 1895 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,400 It was kind of an idea. Oh, he is poor or something like 1896 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,080 that. And then you have the way he 1897 01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,480 talks. That's the biggest one that is 1898 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,080 you couldn't possibly have that in the book. 1899 01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:13,280 You can't hear what he sounds like. 1900 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,520 I mean, George could have said his speech is polished, but that 1901 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,720 would have been maybe been too much of A giveaway here. 1902 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,400 His speech is very polished. He speaks very clearly. 1903 01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,760 He thinks like I had had enough of that in he says my Lord 1904 01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:25,960 versus Mallor. Does he say? 1905 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,200 My Lord in the book ever would be the question He. 1906 01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:29,880 Does say, my Lord? Yeah, then he does do the 1907 01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:33,320 polished speech thing. However, I should say the 1908 01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,920 polished speech thing when George wrote that, my Lord, my 1909 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,920 Lord thing, that's in A Dance with Dragons, that's Ruse 1910 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:44,720 talking to Theon. So that's literally 13 years 1911 01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:48,360 later than the hedge night that he explained what the Lord, my 1912 01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,200 Lord thing is. So when he wrote this, he hadn't 1913 01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,760 explained that in the books yet. And obviously now all of us have 1914 01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,200 read that. So we do we do have that 1915 01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:56,520 explanation. But I think that's interesting 1916 01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,600 that he he played with this before he explained it many 1917 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,240 years and which he does sometimes. 1918 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,400 So they also, it's not just the pairing, the way they present 1919 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:05,600 his identity a little differently. 1920 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,040 It's also just like paring down the supernatural in general. 1921 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,440 They like, let's talk about Targaryens, let's talk about 1922 01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:14,560 dreams, let's talk about any of that stuff, which is all same, 1923 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,600 just all format, right? Just don't don't get them 1924 01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,680 thinking about that. Another one that's missing a 1925 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,440 dunk in the book. Ask what happened to your hair. 1926 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,080 And he doesn't, he doesn't not another straight answer there 1927 01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:25,560 either. He doesn't. 1928 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,040 He just says the maester shaved it off. 1929 01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:32,680 He doesn't say why. He's like, Oh yeah, well, that's 1930 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:36,000 literally what happened. Yeah, dunk things. 1931 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,040 Oh yeah, Sometimes they do that when you have lice, you know? 1932 01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:43,320 He stills that that explanation works for Dunk, and in the 1933 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,760 explanation in Dunk's mind, pushes the audience to further 1934 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,880 accept him as someone who's poor, not someone it's a Prince, 1935 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:51,400 right? Yes, absolutely. 1936 01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,320 Shout out to Laura Jane who had a great thought on the Egg Dunk 1937 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,240 shooting star scene. Remember the book All That is In 1938 01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,200 Dunk's inner monologue he thinks about the star and the luck blah 1939 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,240 blah. But in the show they give the 1940 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:07,480 line to Egg shooting star brings luck and that it's very poignant 1941 01:34:07,480 --> 01:34:10,760 because Egg's mother from house Dane, their sigil is a shooting 1942 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,120 star. So it makes a lot of sense that 1943 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:16,400 he would know lore or, you know, old wives tales, whatever you're 1944 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:17,600 going to call them about shooting stars. 1945 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,520 So that's very fitting. Like that one. 1946 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,840 Let's talk about Brienne for a minute here. 1947 01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:28,000 I there's not a lot of like overt Brienne content so far. 1948 01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:32,200 The one perhaps Easter egg was when will he be awake? 1949 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:37,080 And they say even fall, even Fall Hall is the capital of 1950 01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,400 Tarth or the seat of Brienne's family. 1951 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,960 So yeah. So which would Dunk will 1952 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:43,720 eventually go there? So. 1953 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,560 But mostly I wanted to talk about how all these multiple 1954 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:50,520 situations that Dunk disarms people with his earnestness and 1955 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,520 his naivete does not work for Brienne. 1956 01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:57,320 She is just as honest and naive, but it goes the opposite way 1957 01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,920 because of just, you know, the difference in how gender is 1958 01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,240 treated in Westeros. She's a woman. 1959 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,080 A big woman is not a big man. It's like, oh, you're a big man. 1960 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,640 That's good. A big woman, like, oh, a big 1961 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,120 woman, blah. You know, they don't like that. 1962 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,960 So it's she gets mocked for things that Dunk got. 1963 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,080 It's an advantage for him. And it neither of them are aware 1964 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,120 necessarily of of this going into it like because Brienne 1965 01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,600 comes from a sheltered environment. 1966 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,640 She came from Tarth, which is like a microcosm of ancient and 1967 01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:26,680 all values. It's not. 1968 01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,040 She wasn't ready to be mocked. And and the cruel games that the 1969 01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:31,720 other nights play, she had no idea that would happen. 1970 01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,520 She thought they would be noble and honorable. 1971 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,000 But yeah, so. And that's kind of where Dunks 1972 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,360 approaches. He's like, well, Sir Arlen 1973 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:39,880 taught me to be noble and honorable. 1974 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:44,320 That's what I'm going to be. So he also doesn't perceive all 1975 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,960 the harm and mockery and all the stuff around him. 1976 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:49,440 He doesn't realize that's the case. 1977 01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:52,240 And it's very similar to Brienne, but in, as I said, in 1978 01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:53,800 Brianne's case, it goes negative for her. 1979 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,640 And in Dunk's case, it kind of tends to go well for him. 1980 01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:02,080 Think too, how some of the mockery that Dunk might get that 1981 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,080 a person might get Dunk doesn't. Some people that might Malcolm 1982 01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:06,640 don't because he's too big, right? 1983 01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,320 He'll beat me up, right? See, he doesn't face some 1984 01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:13,520 mockery that a person went and and and some of the respect he 1985 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,800 gets. He probably doesn't realize that 1986 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,480 he's gets because he's big too. For example. 1987 01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:21,600 I wonder if Plummer would have given the advice. 1988 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,600 Go find someone to vouch for it and then maybe we'll let you in. 1989 01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:29,120 If he had been smaller. If he had been like some skinny, 1990 01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,840 you know, short person that also look like a farmer, they're like 1991 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:37,120 no, no, no plumber at least like well, you're big. 1992 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,280 I get you know, you can compete. Go ahead, get some. 1993 01:36:39,480 --> 01:36:42,640 But if he had been some scrawny guy, he will now get out of 1994 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:43,880 here. You're not you're not putting up 1995 01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:45,240 with these nights. You're not going to do this. 1996 01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,320 So. Very true. 1997 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,800 To be fair, it's not all about gender it it mostly is, but it's 1998 01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,760 also about appearance. Dunk is handsome, Brienne is 1999 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:56,000 explicitly said to be ugly. So that's part of it too. 2000 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,560 Like some people are just, hey, he's handsome, I like him, I'll 2001 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,240 talk to him, whatever. But another similar part of this 2002 01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,640 is or example of this is when he's talking to the sex workers 2003 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,280 and he's like, rather than being like insulting them back when 2004 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,480 they insulted him, he's like, you didn't have to mock me. 2005 01:37:09,480 --> 01:37:11,000 And they're like, whoa, what are we? 2006 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,280 What a thing to say. Like how earnest, how wholesome, 2007 01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,120 you know? But if Brianna had said you 2008 01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,400 didn't have to mock me to all those nights that played that 2009 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,560 game with her, they would have laughed even harder. 2010 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:20,880 They would have mocked her even harder. 2011 01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,120 Yeah. So it's just more showing 2012 01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:24,600 weakness. So anyway. 2013 01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:28,240 Can I say there I do think there was one other allusion being 2014 01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:32,160 made to Brienne? Oh, what does what does Lionel 2015 01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,240 tell Dunk? Well, a few things. 2016 01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:35,520 What do you what is specific? He has. 2017 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,400 He has no chance. Right. 2018 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:42,960 Now he has no chance, and soon he'll have no choice and no 2019 01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:44,280 chance. Very good. 2020 01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:45,520 Nice. Excellent. 2021 01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:50,160 Yeah, Well caught, Shawn. I like that West of Westeros 2022 01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:52,240 says I believe Bran Stark is in this timeline. 2023 01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:55,360 Well, if he's infinite infinite, then maybe it's. 2024 01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,240 I guess some of that could be how you view it. 2025 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,880 Say I can't help but always be on edge if there's a weirwood 2026 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:05,200 around I wonder but I would say I don't think they can see 2027 01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,760 through bird. Back then I saw people that were 2028 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:10,880 like oh Bran's in the Robin, Blood Raven. 2029 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,880 Blood Raven as living then could be say. 2030 01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,040 However, I don't think Bran and Blood Raven in the future can go 2031 01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,840 back to any animal. Perhaps, yeah, but they can go 2032 01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:22,800 back. To a weirwood. 2033 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,640 So if you saw a scene in the show in front of a weirwood, I 2034 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,160 would think it's totally possible for any of the the 2035 01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,280 people tapped into that to see. I don't think that's case for 2036 01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,280 the opening Robin scene, however. 2037 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,960 Yeah. Also by the way, y'all an RIP to 2038 01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,400 Bob Ware from the Grateful Dead, the person who weirwoods are 2039 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,600 named after. He made it to I think age 91. 2040 01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:48,080 That's that's a good number. Let's talk, we do. 2041 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,680 How long, how good for your longevity the rock'n'roll 2042 01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,880 lifestyle was? The tree helped him, right? 2043 01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,480 The weirwood, yeah. Here's a little section we want 2044 01:38:57,480 --> 01:39:00,160 to talk about the making of. There's always a making of with 2045 01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,120 each episode, and we always like to watch that. 2046 01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,840 And especially the first episode there's because it's just 2047 01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:08,440 bringing us into a lot of this stuff without any of I was 2048 01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:11,160 having little understanding of what they started with. 2049 01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,320 And from then you build on it. So Shay's got some some things 2050 01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,000 here. Yes, I recommend it always. 2051 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,320 It's on YouTube. It's about 17 minutes. 2052 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,160 The making of it, not of the Seven Kingdoms. 2053 01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,880 They do concept art compared to the final shot, like you can see 2054 01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:27,480 here. Love to see the concept art. 2055 01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:31,320 They show non color graded versions of of things like the 2056 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:36,040 pavilions and the armor and the swords and little wooden stag 2057 01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,520 concepts and just I love. I just wanted to skim through it 2058 01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,560 for y'all who maybe some of you don't have access to it because 2059 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,280 you're in a different country or you just want to see the 2060 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,640 highlights. You can see some shots here. 2061 01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:53,840 They did like models of all of Ashford, like full, full models 2062 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:57,000 of it, which I'll get to. But just the the beautiful 2063 01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,960 artistry involved in all the Shields, all the pavilions, 2064 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,800 etcetera. All of the wares that the 2065 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:09,400 merchants have, the eggs and the spices and and George, yeah, 2066 01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,840 George Happy. You'll see lots of George in the 2067 01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,480 making of him. Happy about it. 2068 01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:18,800 They built a whole bridge like in they they modeled and made a 2069 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:21,840 bridge that went across this river, a working bridge, which 2070 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:23,520 is pretty cool there. Had to be a bridge that didn't 2071 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:27,520 interfere with the salmon so there's no supports going into 2072 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:29,800 the water it all. It only spans both sides of the 2073 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,640 shore. Yeah, it's really cool bit of 2074 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,360 engineering George said they should keep. 2075 01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,000 That's what he's laughing about here, that he said they should 2076 01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,320 keep the bridge. And I think they should. 2077 01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:39,080 It's such a cool bridge. And you can see they they 2078 01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:44,080 overlaid some of the quotes from the the novella with some of the 2079 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,840 scenes that they built, which is a pretty cool touch for them to 2080 01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,960 do. And I'm still getting to the 2081 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:51,680 model. Here we go. 2082 01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:56,160 This is the model they did of, of Ashford for them to build off 2083 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,680 of. And it's just so cool. 2084 01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:02,640 I can't wait to go to see the filming locations to see the the 2085 01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,560 Belfast museum they have with all of this stuff. 2086 01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,440 But I'm sure they're going to add a whole bunch of it so we 2087 01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:10,680 can hopefully see some of this stuff in person. 2088 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:16,320 These real models, real armor, eggs, little robe, there concept 2089 01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:17,880 art of egg where he looks looks like. 2090 01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,120 An alien there. He looks like an alien empire. 2091 01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:22,800 Yeah, he looks intense. Yeah, he's son. 2092 01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,320 Of he's baby of Nosferatu there. Yeah, he is. 2093 01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,640 Yeah, that's so funny. But yeah, you also will see just 2094 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:33,600 lots and lots of of, of silly gag reel bloopers and stuff like 2095 01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,320 that. So I, I highly recommend it. 2096 01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:39,000 I'm sorry if it's region locked and you can't see it, I'll be 2097 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,200 disappointed for you if that's the case, but there's. 2098 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,480 My overview, the banners, the banners. 2099 01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,720 I did see a clip of Martin saying. 2100 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,240 I'm not quoting exactly, but he said something to the effect of 2101 01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:54,480 walking onto the set was like walking into his book and he 2102 01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:57,560 really thought they nailed the look of the whole world. 2103 01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:58,960 So. Yeah, that's great. 2104 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,720 You know, because George himself has said and I'm so and I'm 2105 01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,120 known to be very reasonable about these things. 2106 01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:08,440 I. Like this comment here from 2107 01:42:08,440 --> 01:42:12,720 Tyler McAlpine? Viserys would love that model. 2108 01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:17,200 He sure would. That is really true. 2109 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,360 Well, let's talk a little bit about some other stuff where 2110 01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,760 we've got, I guess just a couple more things that I wanted to let 2111 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,320 you all know that on Friday we'll talk about the trailer and 2112 01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,080 the rest of season because they did do, there's a trailer with 2113 01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,280 stuff in it and there's a whole rest of season trailer like they 2114 01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,000 do sometimes. And there's some interesting 2115 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,680 things in there. Some pretty big scenes are shown 2116 01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,880 and there's some things that are a little bit unexpected in a 2117 01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,920 good way. And yeah, we'll we'll talk about 2118 01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:44,800 that in our preview episode. On the screen you can see we do 2119 01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,960 see more dunk flashbacks, which I was eager for, and we do seem 2120 01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,000 to see some extended ones, so that'll be wet. 2121 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,400 Your appetite for what we're going to talk about on Friday. 2122 01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:56,240 More Bamber Todd love that kid. And I can I throw out real quick 2123 01:42:56,240 --> 01:43:00,080 by the way, that when we did our preview episode and you know, I 2124 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,440 don't want to take anything away from your effort, Aziz, because 2125 01:43:02,440 --> 01:43:05,280 I, I hadn't really thought it out at all, but you kind kind of 2126 01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,720 predicted 6 sort of temp pole moments that might be the the 2127 01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:11,640 end. I mean, I was wrong in episode 2128 01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,160 1. Yeah, I. 2129 01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:16,800 I, I, I was reading a book and it's like halfway into the book, 2130 01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,720 that scene still hasn't come yet, that scene with Peninsula 2131 01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,720 and Aryan. And so I just started thinking 2132 01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,600 like, I don't think they can do it that early. 2133 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,040 And, you know, and when I think of it being I, I think if it 2134 01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:33,560 happens like episode 3, that's, you know, so four, he gets the 2135 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,560 team together, Episode 5's a battle, episode 6 that resolved. 2136 01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:37,960 Yeah. And and that's closer to the 2137 01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,600 halfway point. So but that did leave me 2138 01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,520 thinking, well, what all else are they going to do in the 1st 2139 01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:45,280 2 episodes? So things like dunk flashbacks, 2140 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,760 which we suppose this like, I don't know, years ago that they 2141 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,840 might do that and they and also he hasn't. 2142 01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,400 Done his armor yet like this and sell in selling the other. 2143 01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,960 Things straight from the book he still needs you like sell his 2144 01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:58,760 horse and get the armor and. Talk to Tans, Elsomar and yeah, 2145 01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,760 a few things like that, but also. 2146 01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,920 It scenes like this with Lionel Baratheon, stuff like that that 2147 01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,640 that does a lot to like reveal the thoughts in his head, 2148 01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,920 further flesh out the world and the other characters also 2149 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,040 entertain us, build the space of the episode. 2150 01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,040 There's going to be actual jousts, so we got to see the 2151 01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:17,760 actual tournament moments and things like that. 2152 01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,520 Exactly right, yeah. That'll be cool he. 2153 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,120 Doesn't join the tournament though I think until well, he 2154 01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,360 didn't even join the tournament tournament till the 3rd day. 2155 01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:26,400 Yeah. So that's right. 2156 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,920 And before that happens, yeah. So he never actually competes in 2157 01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:33,280 the tournament. It's funny. 2158 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,920 It's about a tournament, but our main character doesn't compete. 2159 01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,440 And even though that's what he goes there explicitly to do. 2160 01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,400 That was my other when you ask this in our preview episode what 2161 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:45,360 scene we're most looking forward to and through the season. 2162 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:49,320 My my smart alecky answer was I want to see who wins the 2163 01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:54,160 tournament. Yeah, we never talked about what 2164 01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,360 our favorite scene and our favorite character was. 2165 01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,080 I think that we absolutely should. 2166 01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,200 Do you have an answer for me right off the bad disease? 2167 01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,040 Yeah, I think it's easy enough for me. 2168 01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:04,880 Well, I'll let someone else say Laughing Storm. 2169 01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:06,880 I'll say Raymond. I'll say Raymond Fossaway. 2170 01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:08,160 I was super pleased with Raymond. 2171 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:09,920 He just made me smile. His accent. 2172 01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,360 I loved his accent. I mean, that's how the that guy 2173 01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:13,440 really speaks. I think so. 2174 01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,680 You know, I just, I just like, I just was very fitting his 2175 01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,960 delivery. Just the character and my 2176 01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,800 favorite scene. Yeah, probably the shooting star 2177 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,960 scene at the end. I thought that I really loved 2178 01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,160 the switch there and and after Laura's catch there about House 2179 01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,680 Day and I love it even more. Sean. 2180 01:45:32,440 --> 01:45:35,520 Oh, I think my favorite character might be the low 2181 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:40,320 hanging fruit of Dunk. I I'm I'm tempted to name 2182 01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,840 Plummer. It was so gross the way he kept 2183 01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:46,840 Hocking up movies and I similar kind of comedic, you know, 2184 01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:51,200 grounding of the opening poop scene, But it was so gross 2185 01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,040 enough that makes me hesitate to pick him. 2186 01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,200 But I did like how he was reasonable. 2187 01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,400 You know, he he was, you know, dunks kind of coming into this 2188 01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,640 guy's world. It happens in a row when anyone 2189 01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:05,280 has worked to retail. You know that you you it's your 2190 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,520 world, right? You know how the cash register 2191 01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,720 works and where the storage room is and how busy it's going to be 2192 01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,960 at 5 and someone comes into your world and they want to know 2193 01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,320 where whatever socks are, how to order French fries or something, 2194 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,760 they are not from your world, right? 2195 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,360 They're thinking about their kids failing math or their 2196 01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,640 husband wrecked a car or whatever's in their world. 2197 01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,480 And they're not in your world. And sometimes you have to kind 2198 01:46:27,480 --> 01:46:31,040 of like, I don't know, cater to them, You know what I mean? 2199 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:32,600 And I think plumber was doing that. 2200 01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:36,120 Dunk came in to Plumber's world not knowing what the heck's 2201 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,600 going on, and Plumber was relatively kind to him. 2202 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:42,000 You know what I mean? I I appreciated that scene on 2203 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:43,880 multiple levels. Right on SO. 2204 01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:44,920 I don't know. Yeah. 2205 01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:46,280 I don't know for sure if I would. 2206 01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,680 I, I and I want to be clear, I didn't dislike Lionel or that 2207 01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,360 scene. And in fact, I have an automatic 2208 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,480 inclination to like scenes that include dancing. 2209 01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:00,040 And so I want to be very clear or not being negative, but I 2210 01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,880 didn't like the whole Lionel scene as much as other people 2211 01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,640 seem to have. It seems like everyone was like 2212 01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,040 super excited for it. I thought it was really good, 2213 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,400 you know, fair enough. There are other things I I might 2214 01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,920 even pick is my favorite scene. I'm cheating a little bit, but 2215 01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:16,320 we just conglomerate of all the scenes of Dunk just alone with 2216 01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:18,640 the horses, you know, just. Like across the. 2217 01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,400 Landscape with the with the sparse music and just kind of 2218 01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:26,800 him being alone facing the world in his own I I appreciate those 2219 01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:28,800 kind of like down to earth moments. 2220 01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:33,240 It gives you as an audience the chance to reflect on what's 2221 01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:34,440 happening. What's he thinking? 2222 01:47:34,440 --> 01:47:36,120 What would I do in this situation? 2223 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,880 A lot of times and again, there's different styles of 2224 01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,960 filmmaking and storytelling, but a lot of times things are kind 2225 01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,240 of dense and there's quick edits and full of conversation and 2226 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,160 non-stop action. But when things slow down for a 2227 01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:51,440 minute, I love that. I love it when things slow down 2228 01:47:51,440 --> 01:47:54,560 enough for you to kind of reflect on what's happening and 2229 01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:58,440 think about what's been shown to you and why and how you react in 2230 01:47:58,440 --> 01:48:00,800 these situations. I love these what some people 2231 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,160 might think of as slow moments where nothing happens. 2232 01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:05,600 Those are my favorite the. Show starts that way like it 2233 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:06,960 does. That's the vibe from the get go. 2234 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,520 Yeah, that's really cool. I'm immediately. 2235 01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,800 In love with the part of why I like the book so much. 2236 01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,040 Too. And the show did it perfectly. 2237 01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,520 It's immediately. This is for me. 2238 01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,200 It's yeah. All right, Shay, what about you? 2239 01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:20,320 OK, my answer is Lionel Baratheon and the dancing scene. 2240 01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:24,520 I do like dancing scenes in TV and movies in general and I like 2241 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,200 the way it was filmed. And they get into that in the 2242 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,720 making of the kind of shutter speeds they use and the style of 2243 01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:34,240 film work they use to give it this kind of almost like drugs 2244 01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,400 kind of atmosphere. Like, you know, if you botched 2245 01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:40,920 hedonistic like they they it really felt like a party and 2246 01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:44,000 other and other extras behind the scenes stuff. 2247 01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:48,560 They talked about how they wanted to give it a Burning Man 2248 01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:53,560 or Glastonbury type feel being at the camps at the turn me and 2249 01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,320 I really felt that not just in that scene, but when Dunk was 2250 01:48:56,600 --> 01:49:00,200 walking around, seeing the puppetry performance or really 2251 01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,440 just memory performance. So I I felt that vibe a lot. 2252 01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:07,000 I felt it most in that scene. I liked the way that they 2253 01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:10,960 expanded Lionel and the kind of foreshadowing they set for an 2254 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:14,360 eventual conflict. I think viewers are going to 2255 01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,680 really be into whether you want to call it a bromance or a 2256 01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,360 romance. A lot of people are going to 2257 01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,840 like Dunk and Lionel Baratheon together. 2258 01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,480 I think they got really good chemistry and they have a lot to 2259 01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:27,080 work with there. And it's it's as we know as 2260 01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:31,640 readers, it's it's not going to end up great in the long term 2261 01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,360 for Dunk or or anyone really, I guess. 2262 01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:37,560 Yeah, I'm going to say Lionel. I liked, I liked Dunks awkward 2263 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,440 dancing as well. So like, it wasn't just about 2264 01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:42,600 Lionel, but it was about seeing Dunk in this environment, I 2265 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,640 suppose. Yeah, putting them together was 2266 01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:48,000 was a big, big thing. 11 really funny moment that some of y'all 2267 01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,560 might have missed from Lionel was when he says, I don't know, 2268 01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,400 I'm really quite drunk. And then he grabs his helm, his 2269 01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:56,480 horns or his antlers and walks away. 2270 01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:59,960 His antlers brush up on the chandelier and he he apologizes 2271 01:49:59,960 --> 01:50:01,720 to it. Sorry. 2272 01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,880 Yeah, exactly. It's it's so funny. 2273 01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,440 Not only did I notice that, but I can't tell you how much time I 2274 01:50:07,480 --> 01:50:10,240 spent thinking about that. My mind is constantly just 2275 01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,720 thinking about the, the nature of film production, you know 2276 01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:16,160 what I mean? And I wondered how much of that 2277 01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:19,920 was specifically written out in the script. 2278 01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,880 You know, sometimes that type of detail isn't there and it's a 2279 01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:24,960 director's decision at the moment of filming. 2280 01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:27,920 But sometimes that type of detail is there and I can't, I 2281 01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:31,160 went so bad to know if that was in the script, if the director 2282 01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:34,520 made that decision or if the actor did that and they ran with 2283 01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,360 it. I, I love that scene in a 2284 01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:37,880 million ways. I'm glad you brought that up. 2285 01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:41,240 I would also say my other favorite scene was a similar 2286 01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:45,600 conglomerate of scene, all the flashbacks just having like for 2287 01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:49,720 me, there's like an editing effect to that that I really 2288 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:53,520 like in not just another 7 Kingdoms, but there's countless 2289 01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,160 shows and movies where I love a quick cut. 2290 01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,600 I love a quick flashback style cut. 2291 01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:02,000 I love using editing for humor to that effect. 2292 01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,720 And so they really, right off the bat, I was very sold on the 2293 01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:08,200 type of humor that they were going for. 2294 01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:11,440 Right on. Yeah, I want to say about that 2295 01:51:11,440 --> 01:51:14,600 too, Shia. I constantly, I'd say largely 2296 01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:17,440 because of you, try to champion editors. 2297 01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:22,400 That's a really good example there of how it was used to tell 2298 01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,120 the story. It wasn't just deciding when to 2299 01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,800 cut back and forth and maintain a continuity, which in and of 2300 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,160 itself is enough of a skill and a challenge. 2301 01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:34,840 But that was very specific storytelling through editing 2302 01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:38,640 that was done great that editors don't get enough credit for us. 2303 01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:42,000 Yeah, like cutting back to Arlen just not saying anything and 2304 01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:45,680 just spitting hilarious. Like that's such a good beat. 2305 01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,680 It's so funny and it says so much and it has such 2306 01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:51,360 implication. And so yeah, I just the way that 2307 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:55,000 they're doing flashbacks is is my other answer for favorite 2308 01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:56,520 scene. And that'll probably continue 2309 01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,040 going forward, I think. You're right. 2310 01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,840 I think you're right. I think we have a lot to look 2311 01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:03,120 forward to there, as we'll discuss on Friday. 2312 01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:06,040 It looks like there's an extended flashback scene rather 2313 01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:09,720 than some with the possibility of more quick cuts, so that's 2314 01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:11,840 exciting. And that next episode is called 2315 01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,600 Hard Salt Beef. Apparently this one was called 2316 01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:16,840 The Hedge Night. This could be the beginning of a 2317 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:17,920 beautiful friendship. Y'all. 2318 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,120 Let's enjoy ourselves and have a great season. 2319 01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,520 If I could get on my soapbox for a few seconds here. 2320 01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,360 Don't let anyone else's criticism of the show affect 2321 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:28,240 your love of it. Enjoy it on your own with your 2322 01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:31,440 friends and don't let anyone else make decisions for you on 2323 01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:33,280 how much you like it. Once again, I want to remind you 2324 01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,640 all to help us out with the World Science Fiction Society 2325 01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:39,760 joined by January 31st and nominate us for best related 2326 01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:43,520 work history of Westeros episode Ragnarok versus the Long Night. 2327 01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,080 You get a lot for your membership. 2328 01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:49,440 Every book on the ballot, which means all the book things 2329 01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:51,680 nominated for best book, like, right, just right there. 2330 01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,520 That's worth the 50 bucks. Plus you get art and the 2331 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,880 nominating and voting. And hopefully you join us in 2332 01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,000 Worldcon itself in 2026. And Anaheim. 2333 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,520 Yeah. You definitely get more than 2334 01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:05,680 $50.00 of value of, of media of books and, and stuff like that. 2335 01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:08,920 Absolutely you get more than $50.00 worth of books. 2336 01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:11,520 And then you also again, could upgrade your membership and 2337 01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:13,320 you're supporting history of Westeros. 2338 01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,320 So we would really appreciate it. 2339 01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,000 I put the link in the description and in the chat. 2340 01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:21,560 Thank you. Our trivia question the question 2341 01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:25,200 was Sir Arlen fought for Sir Manfred Dondarian's father 2342 01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:29,040 against what foe? The Vulture King is the answer. 2343 01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:31,480 the Vulture King and Sir I knew. It I knew it. 2344 01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:34,760 And he took a crossbow bolt. That was quite clearly what that 2345 01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,160 was. Our poll. 2346 01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,280 The poll was who was the favorite non dunk and egg 2347 01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,000 performance. I almost wish I had put Lionel 2348 01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:44,240 up against dunk and Egg because it would have been more of a 2349 01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,440 contest. Plumber got 4%. 2350 01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,800 The four sex workers read Bione, Daisy and Leah the Lovely got 2351 01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,360 8%. Raymond and Stefan Fossaway also 2352 01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:56,040 got 8%. Lionel Baratheon got 80%. 2353 01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,760 So yeah, not so close there, but feels good. 2354 01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,920 To be in the majority for one. So often I'm not. 2355 01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:03,600 But I'm like, you know what? I get it. 2356 01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:07,720 I get why y'all love him. So once again, you all tune into 2357 01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:11,240 us on Friday at 5:30 for our preview episode. 2358 01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:12,800 Most Fridays we'll probably have that. 2359 01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,560 We're going to play that by ear based on what there is to 2360 01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:18,280 discuss or isn't. Yeah, this first week we had the 2361 01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:21,760 whole season to come preview. There's so much to talk about. 2362 01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,920 We're like, let's not cram it into the end of this episode. 2363 01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:26,160 Let's just, you know, do a Friday stream. 2364 01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,800 What time is that? Aziz 535 Thirty. 2365 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,480 Yeah, it's your game. Stream will be not at all. 2366 01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,000 It'll be at six, so we'll this'll be, yeah. 2367 01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:37,080 Power Stream No. We'll just be a little little 2368 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:37,960 late. That's fine. 2369 01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:40,360 The game stream will start when the when this is over. 2370 01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:43,680 OK, so we have also folks, if you want to listen to some other 2371 01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:47,120 stuff in the meantime, we have our Hedge night 4 part, actually 2372 01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:50,920 five part series that is going to be reposted to our video to 2373 01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,560 our Spotify feed and iTunes feeds, all podcast feeds. 2374 01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,960 You'll see that reappear at the top starting this next Thursday. 2375 01:54:57,240 --> 01:55:01,160 We also have a two-part episode on Baylor Break Spear and that 2376 01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:03,400 will that's also out there for you all if you want to check 2377 01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:04,640 that out. And of course, we have a long 2378 01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:06,240 series on the Blackfire rebellions. 2379 01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:10,600 Thanks to Bran for our lovely video intro. 2380 01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:13,160 And guess what y'all? We're getting a new video intro 2381 01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,840 from him all Duncan egg style starting next time and it looks 2382 01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:17,160 really cool. Just wasn't. 2383 01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,200 It's not quite done, but it will be by then and we're very 2384 01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:22,680 excited to show it to. You and there are puppets in it. 2385 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:28,920 Thanks to Shawn and Ashea for all their great commentary. 2386 01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,080 We will see you all again soon. This is going to be a lot of fun 2387 01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:33,920 and you know what to do in the meantime. 2388 01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:36,520 Valar Ariris.