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We haven't had APOV in Tarth, 
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and most of us can't help but 
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association due to it being 
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Mixed in with that lack of 
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good things about Tarth. 
Giving it brought us a person 

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with her extraordinary 
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random product of an environment
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No, Tarth very much supports the
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personality, even though she's 
an exception. 

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Deeper digging reveals more. 
Tarth is a bit of a world apart.

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Not a part like say the Summer 
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the Iron Isles where so many 
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I mean a place that's clearly 
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mainland Westeros. 
It doesn't have a different 

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religion, it is quite steeped in
the Seven. 

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Nevertheless, like so many 
islands, it is different. 

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It's not the biggest island in 
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So it's sort of a self-contained
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It doesn't rely as much on the 
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traffic as much with the outside
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Using our prior examples, the 
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fairly insular cultures, but 
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They trade in Rome all over, one
sort of out of necessity and the

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other out of maybe curiosity and
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Tarth is not like that. 
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people don't feel the need to 
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feel to it. 
More of that vibe, I think. 

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Tarth produces neither explorers
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compared to the Summer and Iron 
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As to why, well, that's not 
something I can express quickly 

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here in the intro, so we'll 
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It'll take more than a few 

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sentences, but it starts with 
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It is called the Sapphire Isle 
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appropriate to call it a bit of 
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standards, of course, which 
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violence and conflict and sort 
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But Tarth's natural geography 
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make it a point of interest for 
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Fires in recent time and in 
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The end alls when invaders come 
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to be compromised. 
They're right there in the 

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front. 
It's closer to tyros than King's

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Landing. 
Tarth is it? 

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It's as close to lease as it is 
to Harrenhal. 

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It's much closer to Volantis 
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Winterfell or Highgarden. 
Kind of interesting, huh? 

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It also has a connection to Sir 
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he is also to House Targaryen 
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Durnden. 
Tart has a good bit of Arthurian

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influence and some Tolkien and 
is often the case with George. 

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The world building is logical 
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real world comparisons, things 
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level. 
And we have all that and more on

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this episode of History of 
Westeros podcast. 

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Hello and welcome everybody. 
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goodqueenalley.tumblr.com is 
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Tywin and Tywin's plan of 
marrying Sansa de Tyrion and 

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taking Winterfell through that 
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How would that have gone? 
What what are some possibilities

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or, or things that would have 
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If you have questions for us, 
hit us up in West Roast 

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history@gmail.com. 
And I'll hit you all with some 

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episodes at the end of this one 
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And we'll start with the trivia 
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answer reveal the answer at the 
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Which Targaryen Prince was 
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Like I said, answer at the end. 
Let's now read the section 

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headers for this episode set up.
First mention ancient history 

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and geography, then founding, 
then the Sapphire Isle, then 

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Kings and even stars, then the 
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then Sir Galadon and Mourn. 
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but we're going to talk about 
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Then Sir Galahad, the biggest 
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Then mourn itself under the 
Dragons, The Conquest, a Game of

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the Narrow Sea, Sir Duncan and 
the Tarsigarians, A Song of Ice 

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and Fire and Tars, and then 
Brienne and then our outro. 

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Plenty to talk about today, but 
I'll also hit you guys with a 

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or if you listen on Spotify, the
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Will Brienne inherit even Fall 
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Kingsguard or the like or die 
something like that. 

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We have several answers. 
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die or other. 
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Inherit Kingsguard die or other.
Let's get to it with our first 

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mention. 
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The first time we hear of Tars, 
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It comes when Lord Commander 
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problem of Jon Snow having just 
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And that, you know, complicates 
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So we have this quote, Sir 
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John did not know the name Sir 
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A good man. 
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Tower to assume the duties of 
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Sir Alice or Thorne left 
Yestermorne for Eastwatch by the

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sea. 
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sometimes Google doesn't 
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It's like, that's not a word. 
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Mormont sent Thorne to King's 
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Lannisters about the whites. 
He took the hand right now. 

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Andrew Tarth became master at 
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Thorne was bad at his job, let's
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I mean we saw it first hand, he 
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Now Davos also mentions the 
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prologue as one of the houses he
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for Stannis. 
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itself is mentioned, however. 
Quote. 

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A roar went up from the crowd as
a helmetless red bearded man 

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with a Griffin on his shield 
went down before a big knight in

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blue armor. 
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even the blunt morning star he 
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His mount barted in the 
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of House Tarth. 
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Catlin and the reader, if it's 
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know as a woman. 
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pulls you in with that belief. 
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that is what you would expect. 
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have guessed that's a man. 
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Tarth. 
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here. 
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melee, the blue knight from 
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That makes sense in retrospect. 
The sapphire aisle, it's all 

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very fitting. 
I'm wearing a Tarth shirt. 

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It's blue with the quartered sun
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There you go. 
That's what she would have seen.

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I doubt and hope a few of us 
were horrified like she was. 

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Like, horrified like what? 
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That's her reaction. 
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It's like what now? 
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rarity, though, as I suggested 
in the intro, her homeland 

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absolutely supports the person 
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Not that it produces a lot of 
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it does not. 
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if she was born in the Iron 
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kinder, more ethical Ironborn. 
But she wouldn't be Brienne of 

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Tarts. 
She wouldn't be what she is now 

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that that support, that goodness
wasn't present, wouldn't have 

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been present for her to to grow 
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But let's go back way farther. 
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though, it has a lot of unique 
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fauna on Tarth. 
Perhaps there are and there just

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haven't been mentioned. 
There'd be little reason to. 

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I mean, it's not that story 
relevant. 

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Brienne might have an idle 
thought about that here and 

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there, and maybe that's 
something coming. 

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But for right now, we don't 
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how long Tarth separated from 
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If we can assume the land mass 
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want to call it, had a Pangaea 
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many hundreds of millions of 
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been attached to the mainland at
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A place like Madagascar 
separated from Africa super long

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ago, and it is thus very 
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Even though it's right next to 
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poisonous snakes. 
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mainland, has tons of poisonous 
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Madagascar also has 900 species 
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aren't found on Africa. 
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I could go on, but we don't need
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The point is, if Tarth 
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years ago, then you would expect
the fluorine fauna to be a lot 

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different. 
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just a few million years ago or 
10 million years ago, something 

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like that, well, it would still 
be different, but it would be a 

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lot less so. 
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this question isn't just for the
nerdy real life geography 

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interest, but it's because we 
are curious about whether or not

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the Children of the Forest were 
present and whether there's 

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weirwoods, let alone Hart trees.
Hart trees, I would guess no. 

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There may have once been, but 
definitely now. 

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I don't think so because as 
we'll see later, Tarth was a 

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hotbed of Andahl migration and 
we know the Andahl's did not 

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like the weirwoods. 
So it's not a place that is 

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likely to have survived, but the
weirwoods there, if there were 

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any, are not likely to have 
survived. 

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And there are mountains there, 
which implies caves. 

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So the Children could have lived
in those caves. 

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But if those cave systems aren't
connected to the ones on the 

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mainland, then I don't know that
they ever would have occupied 

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them. 
There's not much evidence of 

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Children of the Forest activity 
on a lot of other islands that 

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we've seen, like Bear Island. 
I don't know about that. 

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The Sisters, the Iron Isles. 
Yeah. 

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It's just, it doesn't seem like 
there's much there to suggest 

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their activity. 
So I'm going to guess no. 

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And that's important too, 
because that really fits with 

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the vibe of the place. 
It is an and all place, but not 

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but the best of and all hood, 
the best of the and all culture 

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in a lot of ways, the the 
goodness of it, not the parts 

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that are all about invading and 
conquering and all that stuff. 

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We're talking about the the 
values that they purport to hold

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that most people don't actually 
hold. 

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Nightly values, as we'll see. 
Tarth, as we'll gradually paint 

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the picture, filling in what you
didn't know or don't recall, has

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a lot more, like I said in the 
beginning, an idyllic or 

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romantic vibe to it. 
Arthurian. 

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It's very Arthurian. 
Even though we're lacking some 

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detail. 
What we do have very much seems 

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steeped in that the mysticism 
associated with Tarth is and all

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mysticism, which is a shallower 
pool to be sure, but it's again,

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we had nothing Children of the 
foresty old Godzi about Tars. 

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But we have lots of things from 
the seven questing nightly 

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values. 
Like I said, Arthurian stuff, 

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but let's not forget, I said 
idyllic, I said romantic. 

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This is Westeros and even in 
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there are bad things. 
There's horrible tragedies, 

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there's mistaken identities, 
there's curses, there's bloody 

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deaths, there's all kinds of 
violence and conflict and nights

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of summer die. 
Even Brienne points that out in 

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one of the first scenes where 
she has dialogue. 

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So this may have never been a 
place of the old gods. 

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That's entirely possible. 
Which would kind of fit with the

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the like I keep using the word 
vibe, for lack of a better word,

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because so much of this is we're
reading between the lines on we 

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don't have direct information. 
So I think vibe is an 

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appropriate term. 
It's a feeling we get about the 

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place because we don't have 
direct information. 

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It doesn't have stories of skin 
changers or green seers or 

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things like that. 
At least if it does, we don't 

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have them. 
But it does have magic swords in

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The Perfect Knight and the Seven
engaging directly in mortal 

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affairs. 
It's one of the largest islands 

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in the Seven Kingdoms. 
I didn't think it. 

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I think it's third biggest. 
It's hard to tell because all we

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can do is really look at the 
maps and kind of, you know, 

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ballpark it spitball it. 
Skago's certainly the biggest, 

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right? 
That's that's pretty easy. 

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Then I think the Arbor is second
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probably Tarth. 
The Great Wick might be the next

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biggest, but whatever it's it's 
big. 

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Estremont is its closest 
neighbor island wise, other than

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the very small island that's 
part of Tarth that's next to it 

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that we don't have the name of. 
Estremont is considerably 

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smaller than Tarth. 
The southernmost tip of the Isle

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of Tarth aligns almost directly 
due E with Mirror. 

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And as I said in the intro, it's
closer to Tyros than King's 

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Landing. 
A lot closer by ship, even in 

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terms of just straight as the 
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Raven at the same time as the 
crow flies the it's close, but 

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to sail to King's Landing from 
Tarz, you have to go around 

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Massey's Hook where it's just a 
straight shot from Tarth to 

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Tyros pretty interesting, 
especially when you think about 

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things like the blackfires and 
how that was their base Tyros, 

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yes, important. 
And guess where the Golden 

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Company landed? 
Well, several places really, but

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one of them is Tarth. 
It's very close to storms end, 

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closer than any other things we 
named very close to to storms 

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end. 
And it's about as close to 

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Volantis as it is to the Erie. 
It's farther than casually rock 

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to lease or to Volantis. 
So that's pretty interesting. 

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I think founding it's a bit 
overstated to say the First Men 

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were not a sailing culture, 
because the First Men, we 

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mustn't forget, are not one 
culture. 

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That's a catch all phrase for 
all the unknown variety of 

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cultures that migrated and sort 
of amalgamated into a new 

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culture when they reached 
Westeros, more or less. 

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It is fair enough to say mostly 
they weren't sailors. 

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They mostly migrated by foot 
through the land bridge that's 

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no longer there. 
But clearly the islands for the 

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most part around Westeros are 
populated. 

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And this wasn't a thing that 
only happened when the end alls 

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came. 
So yeah, there were people 

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exploring the nearby islands at 
least. 

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And then when you get to 
cultures like the Ironborn, they

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go a bit farther. 
Well, a lot farther. 

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So why sail the seas when you 
have everything you need on 

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land? 
This is an important question. 

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That's why I think Tarth isn't a
big exploring sailing culture. 

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Even though they're an island, 
they don't need to go elsewhere.

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They have what they need right 
there. 

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The Ironborn kind of poor 
culture to begin with. 

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They're not a lot of natural 
resources there. 

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Over time it's gotten worse 
because for one thing, they 

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haven't invested in 
infrastructure very much. 2, 

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they cut all the trees down. 
They've had big problems with 

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that. 
That's going to cause all, all 

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kinds of climate change and 
messing up the soil, which and 

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hey, they don't sow, so they 
don't care about that. 

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No, they do. 
So their, their thralls do that 

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work. 
So yeah, that's the first men. 

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Maybe the islands were some of 
the last things that got taken 

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because of this lack of sailing,
but it did happen. 

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And some of these islands you 
can see from like I, I wouldn't 

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be surprised if you could see 
Tarth from Storm's End because 

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it has mountains that they 
would. 

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So they would be visible from a 
distance. 

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If it was a flat island, maybe 
not. 

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So this is where the Iron Mark 
kind of come from right there. 

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They obviously took it further 
and developed all the way into a

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maritime culture, but Tarth 
didn't. 

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So I, I think it's really 
interesting. 

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Now there's other reasons for 
that which we'll get to, but 

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most island people, most island 
cultures, they are sailing 

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people. 
Tarth is the exception, not the 

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rule. 
Iron Islands are kind of normal.

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Not not the specifics about the 
Iron Islands, but the but the 

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fact they're sailors. 
That's the normal part of the 

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Arbor. 
Sailors House Valerian on drift 

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marks, sailors, the sister men, 
sailors, pirates, really. 

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But a Scagos is an exception, 
partly because it's hard to sail

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to Scagos and to leave Scagos 
because it's so mountainous that

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there aren't a lot of harbors. 
So it doesn't really lend itself

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to that as much. 
But again, that's an exception. 

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Or a place like the Thousand 
Islands where there's like a a 

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cultural fear of what might 
emerge from the depths. 

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And that's a whole other story. 
They definitely don't have 

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worries about, you know, Deep 
Ones at Tarth, as far as we 

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know, even the Bear Island, they
have long ships there. 

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The Shield Islands, they're all 
sailors. 

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This is so this is an exception 
rather than a norm. 

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And that makes Tarth, alongside 
a lot of other details, a bit 

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unique. 
The Sapphire Isle, for who knows

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how long, it's had this nickname
probably a very long time. 

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But why? 
Well, Brienne gives us the 

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answer very straightforwardly 
while she's a captive of the 

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Bloody Mummers quote. 
Why did you tell him Tarth was 

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the Sapphire Isle? 
Brienne whispered when Erswick 

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was out of earshot. 
He's like to think my father's 

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rich in gemstones. 
You best pray he. 

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Does it's every word you say a 
lie, King Slayer? 

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Tarth is called the Sapphire 
Isle for the blue of its waters.

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Shout it a little louder, wench.
I don't think Erswick heard you.

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So yeah, there are no sapphires 
occurring on Tarth. 

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It's not just there aren't many.
No, there aren't any other than 

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ones that were imported. 
So Jamie was telling one of 

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those lies that was quote, not 
without honor, as Ned told Arya 

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in the case of driving Nymeria 
away. 

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Ironically, this is a contrast 
to what actual sapphire seem to 

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represent frequently in the Song
of Ice and Fire, which is whites

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and the Song of Ice and and and 
the others. 

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Right. 
So again, yet more just 

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divergent from what we're used 
to with these symbols. 

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And that's partly because, well,
Tarth is different. 

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It has its own views on things 
and blue there, the blue of the 

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of the waters is the 
implication, not the others. 

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Almost anywhere else. 
And we see sapphires and blue 

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stuff like that, we're going to 
think of the others. 

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But on Tarth, no, we think of 
something good, something that's

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not, you know, the ultimate evil
or what have you. 

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I mean, other examples of sat 
like amoned one eye had a 

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sapphire in his eye. 
That's not a positive 

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association, Simeon Star Eyes, 
That is a positive association. 

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He had two sapphires, so maybe 
that's the way 2 is better than 

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one, right? 
Aymond? 

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So that's pretty. 
I think that's pretty telling, 

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the way the symbolism is 
different in the eyes of people 

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from Tarth or when associated 
with Tarth. 

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Nina points out that Sapphire 
Isle is surely A homage to 

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Ireland, which is called the 
Emerald Isle, which ever since 

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Vista I did not know. 
Nina points out that there was a

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poem. 
Called when Aaron first rose 

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from 1795 and that's where 
apparently it's first named the 

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emerald Isle and that stuck So 
also Ireland does not have 

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emeralds. 
None just like Tarth has no 

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sapphire. 
So it's the exact same metaphor 

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in in a sense there and Shea and
I've been to Ireland. 

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It's beautiful. 
It is very great. 

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It is the I see why it's called 
the emerald Isle. 

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But of course, it's also got a 
lot of other types of terrain. 

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Not all of it is green, just has
a lot of green. 

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It's got coasts. 
And you might, you might not 

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think that Ireland has 
mountains, but it does. 

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And they're not very tall, to be
fair. 

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But it has 209 mountains. 
That's a lot of mountains for a 

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very small place, relatively 
speaking. 

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Ireland. 
If it was AUS state it would be 

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the 47th largest. 
So out of 50, that's that's 

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pretty small, but it probably 
has a wider variety of terrains 

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than most U.S. states too. 
Now, the Iron Isles actually do 

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have an abundance of iron, so 
that one actually is 

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straightforward. 
But they're also a Gray place. 

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It's not a colorful place, 
partly because of all the trees 

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getting cut down, but not just 
because of that. 

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It's just kind of naturally more
Gray. 

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And there's reasons for that 
too. 

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And it's it's subtle and 
interesting and kind of 

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satisfying. 
But but building up to that, a 

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character who is satisfying 
isn't the right word. 

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Victorian, he has some thoughts.
Got to use that word loosely 

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with him that are fitting here. 
Quote. 

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Victorian did not like this sea,
nor these endless, cloudless 

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skies, nor the blazing sun that 
beat down on their heads and 

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baked the decks until the boards
were hot enough to scorch bare 

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feet. 
He did not like these storms, 

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which seemed to come up out of 
nowhere. 

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The seas around Pike were often 
stormy, but there at least a man

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could smell them coming. 
These southern storms were as 

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treacherous as women. 
Even the water was the wrong 

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color, a shimmering turquoise 
close to shore, and farther out 

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a blue so deep that it was 
almost black. 

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Victorian missed the Gray green 
waters of home with their white 

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caps and surges. 
That just makes me laugh. 

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Even the color of the water is 
wrong. 

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But it's telling because yes, 
different bodies of water around

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the world, real life and in 
Planet Toast have different 

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colors. 
Let's talk a little bit about 

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why very nerdy stuff here. 
Now, that's not the Stormlands 

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that Victorian's talking about. 
He's at the Isle of Cedars way 

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the hell over in Slavers Bay or 
near Slavers Bay. 

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But the point is the same. 
The Stormlands is like that. 

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It has sudden storms that come 
out of nowhere that you don't 

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see coming. 
That's the kind of storm that 

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sank Robert Sandus and Renly's 
parents inside of Storms End. 

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It was sudden, didn't see it 
coming. 

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No one could smell it coming. 
And this blue that he's 

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describing is not the same as 
Tarth, right? 

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He said turquoise, not sapphire 
blue, so deep it's almost black.

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That's probably similar. 
But the point here is that 

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Victorian doesn't like blue 
seas, and he's a sailor. 

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He doesn't see it very much. 
So why is the water around Tarth

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so blue and so Gray green on his
side? 

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Well, George is on top of the 
science. 

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Whether he did it on 
intentionally or not, he did it 

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right. 
Ocean waters on Earth go West to

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east because the planet rotates 
one way. 

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It doesn't rotate both ways. 
So the waters go One Direction. 

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Generally speaking, that's not, 
you know, not all water flows 

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that direction, but oceans and 
generally currents move that 

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way. 
Now this can cause up swelling 

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along, sorry, upwelling along 
some coasts. 

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What is upwelling? 
That's when the surge of the 

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water is enough, that heavy 
enough, strong enough that the 

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water beneath pushes up from 
underneath and pushes the warmer

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00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,120
water back. 
And the water down deeper has 

446
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:23,280
more sediment in it. 
Thus, it's grayer and it gets 

447
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,960
rid of the blue just like 
anything else you look at. 

448
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,280
Any color you see with your eyes
is a reflection of what light 

449
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,880
comes back to you because the 
other colors are not reflected 

450
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,480
back. 
If you're looking at blue water,

451
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,280
it's blue because the light 
comes at it and the water 

452
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,000
diffuses all the other colors 
except blue. 

453
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,560
Blue is the only color that it 
leaves, so that's why you see 

454
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,840
blue. 
It's, it's not that it's blue, 

455
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,560
it's that it filters everything 
else out. 

456
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,680
So you can take that logic and 
apply it to different colored 

457
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,560
oceans. 
OK, so I just explained why West

458
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,880
to east. 
Well, that's why the West Coast 

459
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,600
of Westeros is grayer and 
stormier and has bigger waves. 

460
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:11,760
Because of this, because of 
this, this scientific principle,

461
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,480
this geological principle, this 
ocean, that's how the oceans 

462
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,200
work. 
That's why the Caribbean has 

463
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,560
blue waters or San Diego has big
Gray waves all the time, right? 

464
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,320
Like that's you can, there's a 
lot of real world examples where

465
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,240
you can just think about it and 
be like, Oh yeah, that's that's 

466
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,480
true there. 
And here sapphire waters are 

467
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,400
described in the real world. 
Not a lot of places, but plenty.

468
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,920
I mean, there's a huge number of
bodies of water in the world. 

469
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,200
One of them is Wakala Springs, 
Florida, which I've been to. 

470
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,480
I mean, that's near where I 
spent a lot of my early years 

471
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,840
growing up near. 
I lived in Tallahassee and 

472
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,600
Wakala Springs, Florida is not 
that far. 

473
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,640
Has been there too. 
Yeah, Shay has been there too. 

474
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,440
So Wakala Springs. 
Yeah, it's got sapphire, 

475
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,200
described waters. 
Another one is the Somana 

476
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,640
Peninsula in the Dominican 
Republic. 

477
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,640
And of course, the Dominican 
Republic is in the Caribbean. 

478
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,720
So yeah, you go water moving. 
WE where the water West of the 

479
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,080
Caribbean is land. 
So there's there. 

480
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800
It doesn't build up. 
It isn't moving all the way 

481
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,240
across the Pacific Ocean to 
smack into the West Coast of 

482
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,480
California, right? 
That's a big difference. 

483
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,560
Now, where does the green come 
from? 

484
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,320
We talked about blue and Gray. 
Why is it green? 

485
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,440
Well, that's simple algae. 
Algae is green most of the time.

486
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,120
Now there's other colors of 
algae and when there's other 

487
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:23,600
colors of algae, the water can 
look different. 

488
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,320
It can be red algae, they can be
yellow. 

489
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,760
I mean, it can be pretty much 
any color. 

490
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,640
That's pretty rare, but it does 
happen. 

491
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,600
We've got red seas in in the in 
planet toast. 

492
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,320
We've got red seas on Earth. 
So that basically explains it. 

493
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,520
And that also tells you that the
waters around Tarth are not 

494
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,760
super stormy. 
The wind can because it's the 

495
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,640
storm lands, but the waters, the
tides aren't that bad on their 

496
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,040
own. 
I'm sure the winds can mess with

497
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,800
the tides. 
Those two things, you know, do 

498
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,440
impact each other. 
But for the most part, it's a 

499
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000
very different landscape for 
sailors. 

500
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:57,200
And it's, it's neat that we have
an experienced sailor, even 

501
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,560
though Victorians, you know, 
kind of weird with it, it still 

502
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,560
tells us a lot. 
As we pointed out earlier, 

503
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,600
sailing culture's very common on
islands. 

504
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,600
And even though Tarth isn't as 
much of A sailing culture, they 

505
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,200
still have some. 
They do sailing still. 

506
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,440
It's not like they don't do it 
at all. 

507
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,920
Brianne has skills at sailing. 
We saw that during her escape 

508
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,000
with Jamie and Sir Cleos. 
She was the one piloting the 

509
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,880
skiff. 
And Jamie takes note of the fact

510
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,800
that she knows what she's doing,
and then she jumps off the skip 

511
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,080
and swims. 
There's another skill that you 

512
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,600
would see very common amongst 
Islanders, especially an island 

513
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,400
that has lakes, lots of 
beautiful lakes. 

514
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,360
So there's lots of beautiful 
places to swim. 

515
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,640
And there's the beaches. 
It's an island, so there's 

516
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,640
beaches all hunt, like all 
around it. 

517
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,880
I mean, maybe not 100% of the 
way, but a lot. 

518
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,480
So it makes sense, right? 
She does all those things and 

519
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,720
then she climbed, she swam 
ashore, then climbed up the 

520
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240
mountain or the hill and pushed 
that boulder down. 

521
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,600
That's another skill that you 
learn living on an island that 

522
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,280
has mountains or anywhere that 
has mountains really. 

523
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,520
That doesn't island part isn't 
so relevant there, but it's all 

524
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,800
very attached. 
We see see her do three things, 

525
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,960
use three different or 
demonstrate 3 different skills, 

526
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,200
all of which you would expect a 
lot of people from Tarth to 

527
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,560
have. 
So it's really solid there that 

528
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,280
the the world building here 
really connects very well. 

529
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,600
Brienne really is a person from 
Tarth. 

530
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,800
I mean, it really clicks when 
you lay all this out. 

531
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,800
And yeah, all the poorer people,
the the common folk, they 

532
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,720
wouldn't be sailors as much 
because, but some of them would,

533
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,920
they would be hired as sailors. 
And now I'm talking about 

534
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,640
different types of sailing, 
right? 

535
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,800
There's there's not all the 
same. 

536
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,120
Brienne handled that skiff quite
well, but I don't suspect she 

537
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,120
knows how to sail warship or a 
large trading vessel. 

538
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,080
Right. 
That's those are different 

539
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,480
sailings. 
That's like saying I know how to

540
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,360
drive a car. 
So that means you can drive an 

541
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,160
18 Wheeler. 
Does that mean you can drive a 

542
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,400
an excavator? 
No, of course not. 

543
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,000
The same thing goes for ships. 
Lots of rich people have boats, 

544
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,680
but they're usually yachts or 
sailor boats. 

545
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,720
You don't see rich people with 
great skills at sailing aircraft

546
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,960
carriers or whatever. 
Well, maybe a few of them, but 

547
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,520
yeah, it's it's or or a 
commercial vessel, like some 

548
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,720
huge trade cargo ship. 
You don't see rich people 

549
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200
learning how to pilot those. 
So this is the same kind of 

550
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,200
concept goes here for a lower 
tech environment. 

551
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,600
There's probably lots of smaller
boats. 

552
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,160
But since Tarth is more insular,
there don't have a lot of people

553
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,480
building ships and traveling all
over the world. 

554
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,920
It has waterfalls, lakes and 
soaring mountains. 

555
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,680
Quote again, the mountains are 
tall. 

556
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,720
That's that's what soaring 
means, which means bigger than 

557
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Ireland. 
We made that comparison, the 

558
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040
Emerald Isle, and there are a 
lot of comparisons here, but 

559
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,720
Tarth is much bigger than 
Ireland and its mountains are 

560
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,880
much taller. 
I think that Tarth compares in a

561
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,240
lot of ways to Madagascar here. 
Madagascar is a similar distance

562
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,560
off the coast of Africa as Tarth
is off the coast of Westeros. 

563
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,880
They're both on the eastern side
of the continent and they both 

564
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,360
have mountains and they're 
similar size. 

565
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,480
I think the waterfalls on Tarth 
mostly face E probably because 

566
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,680
of the this, the way the 
mountains would have formed. 

567
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,160
It's a geological thing that I 
can't explain very well. 

568
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,760
But again, this is all these 
places that Brienne probably 

569
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,960
would have climbed as a young 
person, especially as a noble 

570
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,000
born person who would have been 
taught a broad skill set, 

571
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,240
especially those that relate to 
her homeland, sailing, swimming,

572
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,720
climbing. 
Now, no sapphires, as we've 

573
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,800
said, but they do have famously 
excellent marble, perhaps the 

574
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,560
best marble in all oestros. 
Let's explain. 

575
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,400
And that's certainly a luxury 
resource, even though it's not 

576
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,520
as luxury as sapphires or 
emeralds or rubies. 

577
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,200
And why do we say this? 
Because the king of the Veil, 

578
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,040
long time ago, Roland the First 
Aaron, sent his builders all 

579
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,080
over Westeros to find the best 
stone because he did not think 

580
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,280
the marble that was in the Veil 
was good enough for the Irie. 

581
00:30:54,840 --> 00:31:01,280
And the consensus apparently was
that the marble from Tarth was 

582
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,240
the best. 
So that is what the area is 

583
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,080
built from. 
Marble from Tarth. 

584
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,440
I guess Tarth probably has some 
other useful exports, timber 

585
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,560
maybe. 
They certainly haven't chopped 

586
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,320
all their trees down. 
So they have at least a 

587
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,160
intuitive understanding of 
sustainability. 

588
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,600
Because as we start at the Iron 
Islands, they don't, they have 

589
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,040
got all their trees down. 
So whatever the inspiration is, 

590
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,680
Ireland, Madagascar, Georgia's 
own imagination, some other 

591
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,240
things that I probably haven't 
named, Tarth is beautiful. 

592
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,400
That's a very important bottom 
line, and that is a big impact 

593
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,040
on the people who live there and
the characters who come from 

594
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,000
there. 
In the real world, people don't 

595
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,560
actually move a lot, but when 
they do, well, they usually 

596
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,320
don't move away from places like
this to someplace that's not 

597
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,560
beautiful. 
Like if you get used to that, 

598
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,520
it's kind of hard to leave. 
I think a lot of y'all who live 

599
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,360
in a really beautiful place will
be like nodding your head like, 

600
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,400
yeah, I can't imagine moving. 
Whereas you live in a kind of a 

601
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840
crappy place. 
It's a lot easier to imagine 

602
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,160
moving if you can afford it or 
what have you. 

603
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,880
So these are, this is yet 
another reason why the culture 

604
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,640
would be more insular and people
would be proud of their culture 

605
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,920
because it's a great place to 
live. 

606
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,520
It's beautiful. 
And they'd be proud of that. 

607
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,400
You know, like we, we love to 
live here. 

608
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,640
You know, it's a great place to 
be. 

609
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,760
They'd be, it's a it's a good 
thing. 

610
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,360
And yeah, why would you leave 
the, the land? 

611
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,480
The Westeros is full of war and,
and smelly cities and things 

612
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,800
like that and politics and all 
that. 

613
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,480
Why would you leave? 
I mean, well, you might leave 

614
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,520
because you're a Brianna of 
tart. 

615
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Then you have you want to prove 
yourself as a knight and go do 

616
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,440
nightly things and all that. 
That said, Brienne wants to go 

617
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,320
home. 
It's not something she thinks 

618
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,240
about a lot, but she does think 
that if I didn't have this oath,

619
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,080
I would go home. 
But she did take that oath and, 

620
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,920
well, there may not be a living 
character in Westeros who takes 

621
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,320
oaths more seriously than 
Brienne of Tarth. 

622
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,760
Now, real quick, the Straits of 
Tarth, a little more about the 

623
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,800
the sailing aspect of here. 
The Stormlands is not the most 

624
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,960
inviting place to be a sailor. 
It is the Stormlands and 

625
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,680
Shipbreaker Bay. 
It's it's right there. 

626
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,280
Yeah. 
So that is also another reason 

627
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,120
perhaps why there's a less of a 
sailing culture here because 

628
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,440
it's more dangerous. 
But there is a haven, there's a 

629
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,880
built in solution. 
The western side of Tarth, 

630
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,320
because it's so close to the 
mainland, the storms don't have 

631
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,400
time to build up. 
The waves don't have a lot of 

632
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,120
momentum, which is why the 
waters are blue. 

633
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,200
Well, that's a safe haven for 
ships. 

634
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,280
If you park your ship on the 
western side of Tarth, it's 

635
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,520
somewhat hidden from the storms 
because the storms are generally

636
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,360
going to emanate in the Narrow 
Sea. 

637
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,480
And then Tarth's big mountains 
and forests are a bit of a block

638
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,120
to that and and storms don't 
generally pop up from the other 

639
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,120
side. 
So it's a safe place to keep 

640
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,160
ships, which is useful for House
Tarth and for the other petty 

641
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,120
kingdoms that existed in time in
the times long gone, but also 

642
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,960
for the Storm Kings. 
The Storm Kings would often park

643
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,760
their ships there, which meant 
they needed to have a trusting 

644
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,440
relationship with House Tarth, 
because otherwise that's a good 

645
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,440
way to have someone steal your 
ships. 

646
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,400
Sam Jensen, 30, sends a super 
chat boss sticker. 

647
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,120
Thanks for that, Sam. 
We appreciate it. 

648
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,199
We're having fun talking about 
Tarth. 

649
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:33,000
Let's keep it going. 
Kings and Even Stars, Even Fall 

650
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,960
Hall and other seats on Tarth, 
which we don't really have the 

651
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,199
names for other than Morn, which
is a ruin, was built in the 

652
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:40,600
earliest days. 
Even Fall Hall was. 

653
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,520
We don't know when Morn was 
built, but definitely later 

654
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,880
because it appears to be of and 
all origin. 

655
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,560
More on that later though. 
Let's focus on the Even Stars 

656
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,400
and Even Fall Hall. 
Evenfall is westward and central

657
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,679
in Tars, but inland, so it's not
itself like a port or anything 

658
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,000
like that. 
And there's one straightforward 

659
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,640
aspect of this name. 
Evenstar. 

660
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,600
An inspirational piece, not 
something from in world. 

661
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,560
They even starred her act from 
Lord of the Rings. 

662
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,560
Arwen, the Arwen. 
Her full name is Arwen Endomio, 

663
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,160
which translates to Arwen 
Horseface. 

664
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,320
No, sorry, Evenstar. 
In the Peter Jackson films, the 

665
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,800
Even Star is a necklace worn by 
Arwen. 

666
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,400
She gives it to Aragorn when she
departs. 

667
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,560
When he departs with the 
Fellowship in the book, she 

668
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,000
gives him her elf stone, which 
serves a similar purpose. 

669
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,720
It's a similar gesture, but that
elf stone isn't called the Even 

670
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,160
Star. 
She's the Even Star. 

671
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,640
In either case. 
It's like an engagement ring 

672
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,080
though, and it foretells that 
she's going to give up her 

673
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,280
immortality by committing to 
him. 

674
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Arwen in Cinderan, which is, you
know, one of the Elvish 

675
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,240
languages, translates to noble 
Maiden. 

676
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,120
That's appropriate. 
And in Welsh, which Tolkien 

677
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,800
derived a lot of Elvish from, it
means greatly blessed. 

678
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,720
There you go, that's cool. 
Arwen. 

679
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,240
So in Arwen herself, the 
character is certainly a noble 

680
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,280
maiden, and her devotion to 
Aragorn is the stuff of legend. 

681
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,880
She gave up her immortality to 
be with him, not unlike Luthien 

682
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,040
did with Baron in the First Age.
Arwen in Aragorn being the third

683
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,720
age of of Middle Earth and in 
Westeros, it's the same sort of 

684
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:19,680
story as Ellen and I did for 
Duran. 

685
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,400
Duran was a human, but he wasn't
from Tarth. 

686
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,440
This is a Durandan story in his 
case. 

687
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,560
But that's the Storm Kings who 
the Tarths are very connected to

688
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,280
both by marriage and other 
things. 

689
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,240
Obviously as a vassal of the 
Storm Kings. 

690
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,400
But Ellen and I gave up her 
immortality for Duran. 

691
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,800
So the place George used that or
borrowed that concept from real 

692
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,760
world mythology is placed right 
here in the storm lands right 

693
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,640
next door to TARS. 
And it's worth considering these

694
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,800
details because we might find 
other inspirational details from

695
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,360
along these lines and we'd be 
ready for it. 

696
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,600
Like, oh, hey, look, there's 
there's another little Arthurian

697
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,320
thing or hey, like there's 
another Tokian thing. 

698
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,440
We were we're kind of ready for 
it because we already know it's 

699
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,560
there. 
Like Lord Selwyn is it's pretty 

700
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,960
Tokian ish, right. 
That name, not the spelling, I 

701
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,000
mean. 
I mean, there's Wyn is not a 

702
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,240
suffix you see in Tokian, but 
Selwyn sounds kind of like Arwin

703
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:15,960
or Luthien or Gilwyn or heroin 
or Hurwin or Turin or Erwin or 

704
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,280
all these other Tokian names. 
A deeper cut, pun intended. 

705
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,520
Aragorn wields Anduriel, a sword
once called Narcile, which was 

706
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,560
an ancient sword forged in the 
First age by Dwarven Smith's. 

707
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,800
Apparently at the end of the 
second Age, the famous Ellen 

708
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,360
Deal wielded it against Sauron. 
Now Sauron slayed Ellen Deal and

709
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,600
when Ellen Deal fell dying, he 
landed on his sword, Narsil, and

710
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,200
it snapped in half. 
Ellen Deal was a big man. 

711
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,080
He was 7 foot 11. 
So yeah, that's big. 

712
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:54,040
Now is Sildor picked up the 
blade, the hilt and used the 

713
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,000
broken hilt, broken part. 
It was still sharp, as you know,

714
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,760
Sean Bean says in the movie. 
And he cuts the One Ring from 

715
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,600
Sauron's hand with that broken 
sword. 

716
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,880
Now Narsil is often referred to 
as the sword that was broken or 

717
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,960
the sword refer forged because 
it's, you know, Aragorn uses 

718
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,920
Andoril, which is the reforged 
version of it. 

719
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,000
Narsil means red and white 
flame, which are the chief 

720
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,920
heavenly lights as enemies of 
darkness. 

721
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,120
That's straight from Tolkien, 
right? 

722
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,120
It's the sun and the moon. 
That's the imagery. 

723
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,840
That's the sigil of House Tarth,
sun and moon. 

724
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,960
It's almost red and white too. 
You got a white moon and a 

725
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:37,360
orangey red sun. 
It's close the and there so 

726
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080
there you go. 
Now the even star also seems to 

727
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,720
fit and it sounds positive, 
right. 

728
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:45,720
This isn't like the the size of 
house Harlow or you know, the 

729
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:47,520
the vultures of Blackmont, 
right? 

730
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,200
This is this is a positive 
celestial. 

731
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,080
You know, it gives you good, 
good vibes. 

732
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Not not dark, not evil, not 
questionable. 

733
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,760
But where did this name come 
from? 

734
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,040
Like this non sinister sounding 
name that even kind of sounds 

735
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,760
like justice, right? 
Which is the most important 

736
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,080
thing that a Lord can bring. 
Generally speaking, that's what 

737
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,000
people expect. 
That's the most valuable service

738
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,160
an authority figure can really 
have. 

739
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,320
Arguably, certainly one of the 
most important. 

740
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,960
Maybe this is what helped the 
even SARS went out in the long 

741
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,440
run. 
We know that there were multiple

742
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,560
kingdoms on Tarth. 
Now there's just the one minus 

743
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,200
the Golden Company invaders, but
they haven't formed their own 

744
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Kingdom. 
So I think that if if people 

745
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,520
associate justice even handed 
rule with the even stars, it's 

746
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,480
right there in the name. 
That's good marketing. 

747
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,000
I guess. 
Then people would want to follow

748
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,520
them as compared to someone else
who's ruling more like a typical

749
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,080
Westerosi Lord would. 
So this is a family tradition 

750
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,320
that's very noble so that you 
want to uphold. 

751
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,840
It's like a tradition like We Do
Not Sew is very much like 

752
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,400
they're taught to be violent and
to look down on people who 

753
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,720
aren't them. 
This isn't here. 

754
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,480
Tarth doesn't have that. 
As far as we can tell. 

755
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,200
They aren't taught that. 
It's not built into the culture.

756
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,360
It's not built into the house. 
Now if we look back on some 

757
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,640
things, we've said that the 
First Men weren't big on 

758
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,000
sailing, that storms are a 
problem for any invader. 

759
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,520
Save perhaps those just across 
the Straits of Tarth, where the 

760
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,240
storms are less likely to be a 
problem. 

761
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,320
Well, the people of Tarth over 
time would have a sense of where

762
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,520
the harbors, where you can land,
where on the island are the 

763
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,840
landing spots for ships of any 
size. 

764
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,240
And maybe if there aren't too 
many of them, will you guard 

765
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:41,120
those particular spots and say, 
OK, well, we've got the the 

766
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,800
harbors are locked down. 
Maybe not, though. 

767
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,840
Maybe they can't do that. 
If so, that if they could do 

768
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,360
that, they have a reasonable 
amount of security. 

769
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,320
They could keep their tarp 
bubble insular the way they want

770
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,120
and not worry too much about 
foreign invaders. 

771
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,720
That may have been a time like 
that, I think in the First Men 

772
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,680
era. 
But once the end alls came, 

773
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,640
which we're, you know, working 
our way towards, that would have

774
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,160
changed. 
So their ancient enemies would 

775
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,800
have been other foes from within
the Narrow Sea region. 

776
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,320
You know, the people who lived 
on Massey's Hook and the people 

777
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,000
who lived on Estremont, the 
people who lived around Storm's 

778
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,600
End, including the the 
Durandans. 

779
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,400
But not just them, you know, the
people of the Griffin's Roost, 

780
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,440
for example, things like that. 
Those would have been maybe 

781
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,560
their ancient enemies and 
ancient allies, depending on 

782
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,200
what century you're in and the 
other circumstances. 

783
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:35,240
So all kings of Tarth were even 
stars, the ones that ruled from 

784
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:36,800
even Fall Hall. 
That is because again, there 

785
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,320
were some petty kings before 
that. 

786
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,560
But of course, so they didn't 
start off ruling all tart. 

787
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,920
That was a thing that happened. 
Over time. 

788
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,920
These kingdoms, like they did 
everywhere else, kind of 

789
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,400
gradually coalesced into smaller
ones. 

790
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,480
You had 100 kingdoms, then you 
had 50, then 40, then all the 

791
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,520
way down. 
So there were lesser kings that 

792
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,200
have been long forgotten in the 
sapphire aisle. 

793
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,720
Now, Speaking of that nickname, 
star Sapphires are a thing, 

794
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,680
right? 
And certainly a concept George 

795
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,760
has used. 
The Star Sapphires are 

796
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:09,240
specifically what Simeon star 
eyes used and the sapphire Isle 

797
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,680
and the name Even star. 
That's what I'm keying in on 

798
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,960
because again, the others we 
already talked about that. 

799
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,520
That's a different connection to
blue eyes here. 

800
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,480
And the sapphire connection here
is also different. 

801
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,680
It doesn't imply the same thing.
So maybe this is what they're 

802
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,160
after. 
Maybe this is this connection is

803
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,680
to the term star, Even star, 
which is again celestial like 

804
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,880
the sun and the moon. 
The Last King of Even Fall Hall 

805
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:38,000
was Edwin Tarth and he married 
Duran the Fair, or sorry, he he 

806
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,120
married, yes, King Edwin married
Duran the Fair. 

807
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,560
No, his daughter married Duran 
the Fair and that ended the 

808
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Kingdom of Tarth as an 
independent body for good and 

809
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,800
all. 
They never became independent 

810
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,560
again, minus perhaps a few times
when they rebelled and were 

811
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,760
temporarily independent, but it 
never held. 

812
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,800
But even Star continued, and 
that's unusual. 

813
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:02,200
Like where else in Westeros does
the Lord of a particular house 

814
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,760
that isn't a great house have 
recurrent title like this? 

815
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,400
There's there's a few other 
examples. 

816
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,200
You know, the Lord Reaper of of 
Pike is a thing, you know, but 

817
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,240
Pike, but Pike is the great joys
are a great house. 

818
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:16,560
So you know, I don't know. 
It's a it's a fun and 

819
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,960
interesting little unique quirk,
semi unique. 

820
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Anyway, shout out to Carl 
Karsnark, regular listener and 

821
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,400
fan. 
It's their name day. 

822
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,800
All right, happy name. 
Day, Carl, the Storm Kings. 

823
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,720
Yeah. 
Duran the Fair, the one who 

824
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:36,760
married whose daughter married 
the daughter of Edwin Tarth, 

825
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,120
that is. 
And now Duran the Fair implies a

826
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,920
good looking guy. 
But maybe it was an ironic 

827
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,120
nickname, right? 
It could be a joke like Brienne 

828
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,680
the beauty, right? 
Yeah, that could be like that. 

829
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Now, this Duran and his Tarth 
wife had a son, and that son 

830
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,160
married an unknown wife. 
And so the issue of that 

831
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,240
marriage was Eric the Sail 
maker, Durandan, Eric, probably 

832
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:06,160
Eric the Third, but whatever. 
So this is probably a direct 

833
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,440
connection to his Tarth 
ancestry. 

834
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,240
You get a, a line of storm kings
and then all of a sudden, within

835
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:15,080
a few generations of marrying 
into Tarth, they've got a guy 

836
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:20,320
called the Sail Maker who did a 
lot of sailing and he got that 

837
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,040
name for his island campaigns. 
He's the Storm King that really 

838
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,480
made a point of bringing in, 
making sure the islands were 

839
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,400
really a part of the Stormlands.
He's the one that added 

840
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,640
Estremont. 
He's the one that added a lot of

841
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,920
the lesser Isles that we don't 
have names to claim them. 

842
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
There would have been people 
probably, otherwise they would 

843
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,800
have been claimed before, maybe 
by the people on the other 

844
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,360
islands. 
Either way, he got them all. 

845
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,800
You know, it's kind of 
interesting that House Durandan,

846
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,840
even though they've been extinct
for quite a while, we have like 

847
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,680
33 Durandan names. 
There's that many figures that 

848
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,320
have at least some detail on 
them. 

849
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,440
Most of them are kings, of 
course, and most of them are 

850
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,680
named Duran, but not all of 
them. 

851
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,560
But most of them are relevant to
Tarth in some way or other. 

852
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,480
Because again, the connection 
between storms and in Tarth is 

853
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,240
big and important because of the
naval connection, because of the

854
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:12,320
just distance connection. 
They're close by and Tarth just 

855
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,560
has such a positive association.
You'd want the Storm Kings would

856
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,080
want that in their corner. 
The good people of Tarth, the 

857
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,400
upstanding nobility of even Fall
Hall and the other houses there,

858
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,920
that's just a good thing to have
on your side. 

859
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,600
Now we have Derwald the first, 
the fat. 

860
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,040
Oh, here's an example of one of 
those Durandans who absolutely 

861
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,640
is relevant to the history of 
House Tarth quote. 

862
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,880
During the long years when 
Derwald, the first the Fat, 

863
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,760
ruled in Storm's End, the 
Massey's broke away. 

864
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,640
Tarth thrice revolted, and even 
upon Cape Wrath a challenge 

865
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,000
arose from a woods which known 
only as the Green Queen, who 

866
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,920
held the rainwood against 
Storm's End for the best part of

867
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,400
a generation. 
For a time, it was said, 

868
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,160
Derwald's rule extended no 
farther than a man could urinate

869
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:09,520
off the walls of Storm's End. 
Can I just say it was hard not 

870
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,480
to laugh at the Green Queen 
because of the show the Curse 

871
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,520
with Nathan Fielder and Emma 
Stone in which she is the Green 

872
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,480
Queen? 
In this case it's Emma Storm, 

873
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,240
not Emma Stone. 
Oh yeah. 

874
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,080
So it says TARS thrice revolted.
It doesn't mean they were 

875
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,800
revolted 3 times. 
Like yeah, that's gross for the 

876
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,520
third time. 
No, they rebelled and it 

877
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,600
normally you would think well if
they rebelled 3 times things 

878
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,760
were really bad and or the Storm
King was really soft, which it 

879
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,360
kind of sounds like this the 
case here because this it may be

880
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,960
the same guy rebelling 3 times. 
Normally you wouldn't get a 

881
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,560
third chance, maybe not even a 
second. 

882
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,520
You get executed or your power 
stripped away to the point where

883
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,160
you're unable to rebel again, at
least not anytime soon. 

884
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,160
So possibilities here are one 
that we got separate Tarths 

885
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,680
rebelling or maybe one who 
rebelled 3 times. 

886
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,360
Something in in between is 
possible. 

887
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,560
And the fact that the Storm King
can't just March his armies to 

888
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,520
Tarth is a certainly an 
advantage for the Tarths. 

889
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:16,040
And if they have the ability to 
keep the OR the Durandan ships 

890
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,680
away, or maybe they captured 
some of them, well, that would 

891
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,360
make their rebellion go a little
smoother. 

892
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,720
Now, of course, it didn't hold, 
but it sounds like Durwald just 

893
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:29,320
wasn't a very good king and a 
lot of things broke down under 

894
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,480
his reign. 
And he maybe just, you know, 

895
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,000
we've seen it before where a 
king puts down a rebellion, but 

896
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:43,880
he doesn't really have the 
authority to execute the 

897
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,640
ringleaders because the Lord is 
too powerful. 

898
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,520
It would cause bigger problems 
to execute them than to let them

899
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,640
live because their family 
members would immediately turn 

900
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,480
around and be like, you killed 
my father and come for them 

901
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,760
again. 
It would start the violence all 

902
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,240
over again. 
Now that's an OK solution if you

903
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,640
are confident you can beat them.
They won't come after you again 

904
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,880
if their tooth weak. 
But clearly that's not the case 

905
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,880
here. 
They kept rebelling. 

906
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,080
So this guy kind of reminds me 
of a Tito's Lannister, a guy 

907
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,800
that just had constant problems 
with his vassals because he was 

908
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,200
just weak. 
Now king or three later saw a 

909
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,120
bit of a change quote. 
The tide turned again when 

910
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:24,680
Morton the Second named his 
baseboard half brother Ronard as

911
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,560
his castellan. 
A fearsome warrior, Ronard 

912
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,440
became the ruler of the 
Stormlands in all but name and 

913
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,480
took King Morden's sister to 
wife. 

914
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,240
Within five years, he had 
claimed the kingship as well. 

915
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,040
It was Morden's own queen who 
placed Morden's crown on 

916
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,320
Ronard's head. 
If the songs be true, she shared

917
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,120
his bed as well. 
Morden, himself, deemed 

918
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,880
harmless, was confined to a cell
in the tower. 

919
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,040
Given their recent three 
rebellions, Tarth might have 

920
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,760
been in conflict with this King 
Ronard, but they might not have 

921
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,080
tested him because it sounds 
like he was not a guy you wanted

922
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,280
to test. 
He was no Derwald. 

923
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,320
So here's how events played out 
from there. 

924
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,320
Quote again. 
His usurper ruled for nigh unto 

925
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:23,480
30 years as Ronard the Bastard. 
Ronard the bastard, I want to 

926
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,760
say Ronard the bastard, smashing
rebel bannerman and petty kings 

927
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,320
alike in battle after battle. 
Never a man to confine himself 

928
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,680
to a single woman, he claimed a 
daughter from every foe who bent

929
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,760
the knee. 
By the time he died he had 

930
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,160
supposedly fathered 9 and 90 
sons. 

931
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,840
Most were bastard born, though 
Ronald had three and 20 wives, 

932
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,720
the songs say, and did not share
in their father's inheritance, 

933
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,280
but had to make their own way in
the world. 

934
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,120
For this reason, thousands of 
years later, many and more of 

935
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,680
the small folk of the 
Stormlands, even the meanest and

936
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,400
humblest amongst them, still 
boast of royal blood. 

937
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,080
It's a regular Garth Green hand.
Yes, you're right. 

938
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,120
I wrote that in the notes later.
You may not have seen it, but 

939
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,520
you we just had the same 
conclusion. 

940
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,160
A little bit of Robert Baratheon
there too, and Genghis Khan. 

941
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,160
We're going real world because 
something like one out of every 

942
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,200
500 people in Mongolia can trace
their ancestry to him, which is 

943
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:28,440
like, that's crazy, right? 
But there you go. 

944
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:33,120
So this Ron, our guy was a real,
a real influence on history. 

945
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,600
He had a did a lot of things and
yeah, it's entirely possible 

946
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,760
that the tarps were one of these
foes that bent the knee to him 

947
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,520
and he took a daughter, but it's
possible they didn't. 

948
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,440
The tarps were were done 
rebelling, given they had done 

949
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,480
so in prior generations and may 
not have had the strength to do 

950
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,200
it again. 
So they may have been on 

951
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,320
Ronald's side, in which case 
they wouldn't have had to do 

952
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,400
this. 
Either way, it seems like a 

953
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,360
little bit more separation for 
house tarp than the rest of the 

954
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,120
Stormland. 
Most of this is probably 

955
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,040
happening in the mainland. 
Most of these Lords, they were 

956
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,960
giving up daughters to Ronard. 
We're mainlanders that mix with 

957
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,280
each other a lot more. 
So this, this royal blood of 

958
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,160
House Durandin that was 
spreading around through Ronald 

959
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,560
Tarth might not have gotten 
some. 

960
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,840
Not a big deal. 
And of course they married into 

961
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,400
the Durandins already, as we 
saw. 

962
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,560
But anyway, it's a more of a 
cultural separation than than 

963
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,760
than some sort of actual 
difference created by 

964
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,000
bloodlines. 
These aren't magical bloodlines,

965
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,480
so that shouldn't matter too 
much. 

966
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,480
At least we don't think they're 
magical bloodlines, but we do 

967
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,760
think magical bloodlines exist 
in this world. 

968
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,800
So Ronald is unlikely to have 
spent long stretches of time on 

969
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,280
the islands because, well, he's 
so busy putting down rebellions 

970
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,160
and doing all this other stuff. 
There's just more to do on the 

971
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,720
mainland, he. 
And if he's constantly at war, 

972
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,280
well, it doesn't make a lot of 
sense for him to spend a lot of 

973
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,960
time on the islands when his 
mainland foes could take 

974
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,520
advantage of that while he's 
gone. 

975
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,600
Well, let's take, let's, let's 
make a move. 

976
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,000
The Andals. 
Here's how it began for the 

977
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,120
Stormlands quote. 
Eric the 7th Durandin was king 

978
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,240
in the Stormlands when the Andal
Long ships first began to cross 

979
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:17,840
the Narrow Sea. 
History remembers him as Eric 

980
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,640
the Unready, for he took a 
little note of these invaders, 

981
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,360
famously declaring that he had 
no interest in quote, the 

982
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,280
quarrels of strangers in a land 
far away now. 

983
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,320
This is sort of painting him as 
a bit of a failure. 

984
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,920
Some of that should have done 
something, but what could he 

985
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,880
have done? 
It wasn't like he could stop the

986
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,920
and dolls. 
I mean, right, that was no one 

987
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,880
was going to stop them. 
No, even if they all the kings 

988
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,080
of Westeros had united, they 
probably wouldn't have won. 

989
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,800
So it could have just been 
excused. 

990
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,400
He's like, yeah, this isn't my 
responsibility. 

991
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,680
I'm pointing out how this isn't 
mine. 

992
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,720
Like he's absalt washing his 
hands of it and wanted to make 

993
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:54,680
sure everybody knew that he had 
problems of his own surely. 

994
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,560
And he we even know some 
specifics. 

995
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,440
He had a pirate king of Massey's
Hook called Justin Milk eye that

996
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,040
he had to deal with. 
And he also had King Oliver 

997
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,320
Ironwood to his S causing 
problems. 

998
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:12,200
So even if he wanted to send 
help to the veil, which is 

999
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,280
pretty far away and again, this 
is an era where the veil is an 

1000
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,360
independent Kingdom, they may 
not have any reason to help to 

1001
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,360
get help from the Stormlands or 
vice versa. 

1002
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,880
So that is where they first 
started, right? 

1003
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,080
The Andals first started coming 
to the veil. 

1004
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,320
So yeah, sending help wouldn't 
have been a typical thing. 

1005
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,440
Anyway, by the time this guy, 
Eric the 7th passed, they still 

1006
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,200
hadn't moved beyond the veil in 
any significant numbers. 

1007
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,800
And so that also goes to show 
that, yeah, like we can't. 

1008
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,520
This guy's getting some blame, 
probably for things that really 

1009
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,360
aren't his fault. 
Regardless, the name Eric the UN

1010
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,200
Ready is almost certainly a nod 
to Ethelred the UN Ready who was

1011
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:56,360
king of the Saxons until he lost
it to Svain Forkbeard, who, yes,

1012
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,120
that's a Viking king. 
Now Svain died very quickly 

1013
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,000
after winning, but, and so 
Ethelred got it back. 

1014
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,120
But then Svain's son Canute the 
Great took it back from him in 

1015
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,280
turn. 
So yeah, back and forth English 

1016
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,720
throne, blah, blah, blah. 
That Ethelred that Ethelred the 

1017
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:16,720
unrady also is a little unfair 
to call him the unrady. 

1018
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,600
So I think George was not only 
capturing the nickname, but the 

1019
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,360
actual same implication of the 
name that it's kind of an 

1020
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,200
overstatement. 
Next up we have Carlton the 

1021
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,760
second, the Conqueror Durandon. 
Now this guy definitely more 

1022
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,080
more of a Ronard than a Derwald 
the Fat or a Eric the Unretti. 

1023
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,800
He was on the throne when things
progressed to a point that 

1024
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,960
started to matter for the 
Stormlands quote. 

1025
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:46,440
King Carlton the Second Durandon
was the first to face the Andols

1026
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,800
in battle. 
After four generations of war, 

1027
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:55,320
that monarch, who styled himself
Carlton the Conqueror, finally 

1028
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,840
completed the reconquest of 
Massey's Hook, taking Stone 

1029
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,720
Dance after a year's siege and 
slaying the Last King of House 

1030
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:10,560
Massey Joshua called Soft Spear.
I want Conqueror to be spelled 

1031
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:16,880
with AQ Carlton the Conqueror. 
Matthew Sook could have been 

1032
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,640
independent as we see there, or 
Pirate King ruled for at least 

1033
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,840
three generations. 
So this soft spear guy looks 

1034
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,560
like he was not up to the task 
of. 

1035
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,560
I mean, soft spear isn't exactly
a name that implies Marshall 

1036
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,800
prowess, does it? 
Or bedroom prowess, Yeah. 

1037
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,280
He didn't father many heirs. 
It's. 

1038
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,120
A little bit of a floppy fish 
situation. 

1039
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:44,200
To me, you're right and this is 
a reminder that history doesn't 

1040
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,840
always move in One Direction. 
This is a 2 step, three steps 

1041
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,960
forward, 2 steps back kind of 
thing for the end Alls. 

1042
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,520
They had won, they moved in a 
lot, but then this Carlton the 

1043
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,720
Conqueror guy had a lot of 
success pushing them back. 

1044
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,920
But historically speaking that 
was only temporary. 

1045
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:02,720
Carlton the Third was next, and 
he wore his entire reign. 

1046
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:07,280
He wasn't necessarily as mighty 
as his father Carlton the 

1047
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,800
Second, but he didn't lose 
anything. 

1048
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,360
He kept it going. 
Then Manfred the fifth was 

1049
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,600
Carlton, the third son. 
He was on the throne when the 

1050
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,120
tide did start to turn. 
Since the and Dolls were mostly 

1051
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,400
coming by ship, mostly long 
ships, the aisles were 

1052
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,840
particularly vulnerable and made
sense as first targets from 

1053
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,040
Assos quote. 
Though the Storm Kings won half 

1054
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,440
a dozen major battles, the 
greatest of these being the 

1055
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,040
Battle of Bronze Gate, where 
Manfred the 5th Durandin 

1056
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:46,000
defeated the Holy Brotherhood of
the Andal's, an alliance of 

1057
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:51,160
seven petty kings and warlords, 
at the cost of his own life, the

1058
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,800
longships kept coming. 
It was said that for every Andal

1059
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,960
who fell in battle, five more 
came wading ashore. 

1060
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,040
Tarth was the first of the 
Stormlands to be overwhelmed. 

1061
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,720
Esthermont soon followed. 
This is notable, as we pointed 

1062
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:10,440
out before, for a lot of 
reasons. 

1063
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,080
One, it's just very, it speaks 
to why the place is so andalized

1064
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,920
and why there's so little trace 
of or any trace of First Men 

1065
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,560
stuff or First Men worship or 
heart trees or anything like 

1066
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,000
that. 
Hotbed of Andal activity. 

1067
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,200
Not just Andal activity, but 
Andal migrations, people who 

1068
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,320
weren't used to Westeros yet, 
people who had their own beliefs

1069
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,520
and were very devout in the 
Seven and kind of thought that 

1070
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,400
everything should fall under 
that purview. 

1071
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,880
So Tarth may have had less and 
less to do with these battles 

1072
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,240
and mainland problems because 
they were wholly analyzed by 

1073
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,920
early on and would not have been
loyal to the other, to the Storm

1074
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,360
King or these other things. 
These other Lords, because 

1075
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,280
they're now culturally separate,
that's a big deal. 

1076
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,280
They were overwhelmed. 
First it says the 1st place to 

1077
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,200
fall and then Estremont. 
So, and that's how it is working

1078
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,760
out with the Golden Company too,
when they're moving, when 

1079
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,760
they're coming across from SOS. 
So after that, Tarth was 

1080
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,800
probably a big problem for the 
Stormlands because it's just 

1081
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,040
this hub of Andahl migration. 
They can come across, have a 

1082
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,000
safe landing, and then it's just
a short boat ride to get the 

1083
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,680
rest of the way to the mainland.
And what are they going to do? 

1084
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,960
Guard every inch of coast of the
Stormlands? 

1085
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,880
No, of course not. 
That's impossible. 

1086
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,040
Like Tarth couldn't do that 
themselves when the Andals were 

1087
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,280
coming. 
And now that the Andals rule 

1088
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,840
Tarth, well, the mainland faces 
the same problem. 

1089
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,440
We've had a bunch of quotes 
about this era, and it's nice 

1090
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,400
that the world of Ice and Fire 
has so much to say. 

1091
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,760
Here's one final one about what 
happened in the long run. 

1092
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,840
Quote. 
In the end, the two sides simply

1093
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,480
came together. 
King Malden the 4th took an 

1094
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,960
Andal maiden as his wife, as did
his son. 

1095
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,800
During half blood Andal War, 
chiefs became Lords and petty 

1096
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,800
kings, wed the daughters of 
Storm Lords and gave them their 

1097
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,000
own daughters in return, did 
fealty for their lands and swore

1098
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,240
their swords to the Storm Kings.
Led by King Ormond the 3rd and 

1099
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,080
his Queen, the Stormlanders put 
aside their old gods and took up

1100
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,120
the gods of the Andals, the 
Faith of the Seven. 

1101
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:26,280
As the centuries passed, the two
races of men became as one, and 

1102
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:31,200
the Children of the Forest, all 
but forgotten, vanished entirely

1103
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,920
from the Rainwood and the 
Stormlands. 

1104
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,560
Maybe not entirely we those 
caves have some interesting 

1105
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,240
things as them that we see in 
the area and Winds of Winter 

1106
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:47,960
chapter, but that's a bit of a 
digression because again, Tarth 

1107
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,080
very analyzed probably didn't 
follow the same pattern. 

1108
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,880
Look, we see gradually the 
Stormlanders put aside their old

1109
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,280
gods and took up the gods of the
angels. 

1110
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,400
That had already happened on 
Tarth by the time it was 

1111
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,520
happening elsewhere. 
So Tarth was the 1st place this 

1112
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:09,000
happened outside of the Veil, I 
suppose, and was the source of 

1113
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,000
so much more of that further 
development and migration. 

1114
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,040
And yeah, so if the Old Gods and
everything had been wiped out 

1115
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,800
from their purview, from their 
island. 

1116
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,960
Well, yeah, it it continued here
on the mainland, but it happened

1117
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,880
first on Tarth. 
Let's take a little break. 

1118
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,560
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1135
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,920
season is of course the first of
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1136
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,160
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1137
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,520
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1138
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,440
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It's got the great logo and it's

1139
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,960
got all the different spots that
are relevant to Duncan's journey

1140
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,520
over the his life. 
We've got Flea Bottom, Ashford 

1141
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,400
Meadow, the Prince's Pass, Vape,
Plankey Town, Old Town, 

1142
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,120
etcetera, etcetera, ending in 
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1143
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,600
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1144
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:58,560
Check it out. 
Get your own Sir Galadon and 

1145
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,520
Morn. 
Yeah, his name is Sir Galadon of

1146
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,080
Morn, but I put it that way 
because we need to talk about 

1147
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,280
Morn as well as Sir Galadon, 
because what is Morn? 

1148
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,320
He's not Sir Galadon of Tarth, 
though of course he's from Tarth

1149
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,600
because Morn is on the island of
Tarth. 

1150
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,800
Now here's a primer from the 
World of Ice and Fire quote. 

1151
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,840
Many of the folk of Tarth, 
Highborn and Lo alike, claim 

1152
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,960
descent from a legendary hero, 
SER Galadon of Morn, who was 

1153
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:32,440
said to wield a sword called the
Just, Made given to him by the 

1154
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,080
Seven themselves. 
Given the role that the Just 

1155
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:42,320
Made plays in SER Galadon's 
tale, Maester Hubert in his Kin 

1156
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:47,120
of the Stag has suggested that 
Galadon of Morn was no rude 

1157
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,760
warrior of the Age of Heroes 
turned into a night by singers 

1158
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:57,880
1000 years later, but an actual 
historic figure of more recent 

1159
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,840
times. 
Hubert also notes that Morn was 

1160
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:07,160
a royal seat of petty kings on 
the eastern coast of Tarth until

1161
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:11,120
the Storm Kings made them 
submit, but that its ruins 

1162
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,640
indicate that the site was made 
by Andals, not First Men. 

1163
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,840
Yeah, it's possible. 
Morn was carved out as a petty 

1164
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,400
Kingdom during the Andahl 
migration, taking that portion 

1165
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:29,320
of the island away from even 
Fall Hall and eventually that 

1166
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,480
spread to the rest of the 
Kingdom. 

1167
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,720
And then in Time Morn ceased to 
be a power because the end alls 

1168
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:41,000
had seized even Fall Hall and 
there was no more reason for it 

1169
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,440
to be separate and the end all 
rulers of even Fall Hall would 

1170
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,800
recapture the whole of the 
island for themselves. 

1171
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,320
So yeah, this Galadon is not in 
the mold of servant of the 

1172
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:57,000
mirror shield and so many other 
heroes who are legendary figures

1173
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,280
from pre end all times who have 
been retrofitted to the 

1174
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,160
histories to make them fit with 
the seven, to make them more 

1175
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,240
familiar to the 7 words. 
They want to hang on to those 

1176
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,640
ancient legends, the value of 
those old traditions, but they 

1177
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,800
want to andalize them. 
That didn't seem to happen here.

1178
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:18,160
The Sir Galadon of Morn seems to
be an actual and all legend, not

1179
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,360
a modified First men story. 
And that's because, as it says 

1180
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,920
here in the quote, the details 
are all very and all in their 

1181
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,280
origin. 
Even the play, even the the site

1182
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,440
of Morn itself is Andal 
architecture and the name 

1183
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,960
Galladon is very Andal. 
And the fact that the just maid 

1184
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,920
and the the maiden herself is in
the store. 

1185
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,720
All the story elements come from
Andal culture. 

1186
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,440
Serwin of the mirror shield, he 
just that just doesn't fit. 

1187
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,680
He he lived thousands and dolls 
weren't even. 

1188
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,680
Heck, some of the stories say 
Serwin of the mirror shield is 

1189
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,240
in the Kingsguard which is only 
a 300 year old institution and 

1190
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,880
Serwin is thousands of years 
old. 

1191
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,960
So some of the stuff is very 
blatant. 

1192
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,760
None of it is in the case of Sir
Galan and Amor. 

1193
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,680
And everything aligns with the 
Andol culture. 

1194
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,280
Nothing seems to have been 
changed in retrospect. 

1195
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,280
So that's kind of neat. 
It's a different version of 

1196
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,160
that. 
The maiden, as we, as we've said

1197
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,520
here twice already, is central 
to Sir Galadon's story. 

1198
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,600
She falls for him. 
And obviously that's one of the 

1199
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,440
seven, one of the seven falling 
for a human, for a mortal. 

1200
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,240
That's yeah, I had something out
of Greek mythology or other 

1201
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,160
mythologies too, but Greece is 
the one we've been focused on 

1202
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,760
quite a bit lately. 
So the maiden, if the story was 

1203
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,280
stolen and just so well made 
into an end all story that we 

1204
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,800
don't notice, maybe the maiden 
was some other feminine guiding 

1205
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,480
figure that was taken over by 
the maiden when the story was 

1206
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,240
rewritten. 
So this isn't something 

1207
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,440
rewritten or invented by George,
of course, it's been done many 

1208
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,200
times by political regimes, 
religious orders, or which have 

1209
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,640
you. 
Sticking with ancient Greece for

1210
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,280
example, the Macedonians, they 
set out to establish themselves 

1211
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,920
as the rightful rulers of Egypt 
after they conquered it. 

1212
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,720
One of their moves was to add a 
God named Macedon to the ancient

1213
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,520
pantheon while claiming he'd 
always been there. 

1214
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,320
Y'all didn't know that y'all 
ancient Egyptians? 

1215
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,600
You didn't know one of your gods
was called Macedon? 

1216
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,920
Well good thing we're here to 
tell you otherwise. 

1217
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,640
You guys have been worshipping 
wrong all this time. 

1218
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,840
It's really quite a thing now. 
It's not as big of an invention 

1219
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,000
as it sounds like because 
Macedon was already an existing 

1220
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,600
legendary figure. 
He wasn't something they just 

1221
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,440
made-up, they just changed the 
details about this God or 

1222
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,040
figure. 
This is religious synchronism in

1223
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,360
play, which meaning merging of 
of religious beliefs into one 

1224
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,840
kind of a combination. 
It also this. 

1225
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,840
In this case it was elements of 
Greek and Egyptian beliefs 

1226
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,960
merged. 
The fuller but still brief ish 

1227
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:53,400
version of this begins with the 
Greeks or whoever mashing Osiris

1228
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,880
and Dionysus into one entity 
because obviously Dionysus is a 

1229
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,560
Greek God, Osiris is an Egyptian
God. 

1230
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,920
So they did this by making 
Osiris had two warrior sons 

1231
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,600
known for their bravery and 
skill, Anubis who was a dog 

1232
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,640
headed God and Macedon who was a
wolf headed God. 

1233
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:15,160
So this wasn't an insertion of a
new God in a place of nothing. 

1234
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,680
This was just taking that this 
is taking a swapping gods out. 

1235
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,720
Take out a God, put another one 
in because in Macedon originally

1236
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,360
had been Weptwa wet the wolf God
of Lycopolis. 

1237
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,160
So they switched the wolf God to
Macedon. 

1238
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,400
So still wolf headed. 
No, it's in in essence, they 

1239
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,480
kind of just changed the name. 
They could write it off as just 

1240
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,280
a name change. 
Yeah, we're it's the same God. 

1241
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,600
It's a wolf headed God. 
We just, you know, it's just a 

1242
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,320
different name. 
We should have been calling him 

1243
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,640
this all along. 
So this isn't the same as when 

1244
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,680
the priests of the Ironborn or 
the seven worshippers on the 

1245
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:55,480
Iron Isles tried to make the the
drown God an eighth God of the 

1246
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:56,840
seven. 
It didn't work. 

1247
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,760
But that's a that's a ham fisted
attempt where this is a little 

1248
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,400
smoother, little more subtle, 
little more nuanced. 

1249
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,840
And it's also kind of cool 
because there's this Wept Wawat,

1250
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,440
who was the wolf God, a son of 
Anubis or son of Osiris, brother

1251
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,440
of Anubis, was the wolf God of 
Lycopolis. 

1252
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:20,120
Lycopolis is a very 
straightforward meaning. 

1253
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,600
You can break down by the the 
roots there. 

1254
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:27,920
Lyco means wolf, Polis means 
city, city of wolves. 

1255
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,399
Is that what it means? 
Yes, it is the city of wolves in

1256
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:34,800
Greek. 
Wolf mummies have been found 

1257
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,760
there. 
That's creepy. 

1258
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,680
And this is something that was 
thought to be made-up by the 

1259
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,720
historian Deodorus Siculus, 
Deodorus of Sicily. 

1260
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:48,279
But like a lot of things 
Deodoris wrote that people 

1261
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:49,560
thought, Nah, that can't be 
real. 

1262
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,920
It's actually was real. 
Like, oh, actually there are 

1263
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,200
wolf mummies. 
OK, He was right about that. 

1264
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,040
Give him some credit. 
Now, later traditions have 

1265
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,359
Macedon as the son of the 
werewolf, like Aeon instead of a

1266
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:02,800
son of Osiris. 
Cause, yeah, they're these 

1267
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,840
things get changed for political
reasons or just cultural reasons

1268
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,720
or who knows why, but that's 
kind of neat. 

1269
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,640
This Macedon's the son of a 
werewolf. 

1270
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,600
Yeah, Now getting back to 
Westeros here, all or most 

1271
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,080
religious syncretism is a form 
of cultural syncretism because 

1272
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,000
religion and culture are 
inseparable. 

1273
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,720
So that's what we have. 
In the case of Sirwin, that's 

1274
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,439
cultural syncretism. 
They're trying to make Sirwin a 

1275
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,200
knight, to try to make him a 
Kingsguard knight, right. 

1276
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,800
So whatever stories were told 
about Sirwin 301 years ago, he 

1277
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,520
wasn't in the Kingsguard right 
now. 

1278
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,319
This Sir Gallaton of Mourn, 
another piece of influence he 

1279
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,880
has is people get named after 
him like Galadon's. 

1280
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,600
You know Brienne's brother who 
died young was named Galadon. 

1281
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,720
Now what about Morn? 
Where did this come from? 

1282
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,440
An end all warlord named Morn 
maybe or something like that. 

1283
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:57,160
He carved out a piece of Tarth 
whatever. 

1284
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,840
Maybe he was Sir Galadon or 
maybe Sir Galadon's brother. 

1285
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,960
Because it's not Lord Galadon, 
it's not King Galadon. 

1286
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:09,480
So yeah, so maybe that's the 
he's related to the founders of 

1287
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:11,360
mourn. 
That would explain why he's not 

1288
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,680
a king or doesn't have the 
doesn't have the name of a first

1289
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:20,280
born Karl Karsnard adds. 
Behold, the just made was just 

1290
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:21,920
made. 
Nice. 

1291
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,120
You know, I love word play, 
y'all. 

1292
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,680
And here is a little section on 
the just made. 

1293
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:32,280
It was given, as the quote told 
us, a sword of powerful swords, 

1294
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,760
so mighty that no common sword 
could check her, no shield could

1295
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,760
block her. 
And this sword was given to Sir 

1296
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,280
Galadon by the maiden who fell 
in love with him because of his 

1297
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,520
purity, his perfect knightness, 
which is what he's called the 

1298
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,840
perfect knight. 
It's not a it's not my version. 

1299
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,840
That's not my turn for him. 
No, that is the in world a thing

1300
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,360
that Brienne says He was the 
perfect knight. 

1301
01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:00,000
Now he only draws the just made 
three times in his whole life 

1302
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,400
because it's too fair. 
It's too it's too unfair. 

1303
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,440
It's it's not a contest. 
It's it's unchivalrous to fight 

1304
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:09,240
with a weapon that no one can 
possibly fight back against. 

1305
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,800
It's too powerful. 
It's it's dishonorable to fight 

1306
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,480
with that sword. 
There's other especially 

1307
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:20,160
Arthurian tropes about swords. 
You can only use it as certain 

1308
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,160
time, only certain conditions or
that maybe it's cursed. 

1309
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:26,760
Like the sword of Balin, who 
wields that sword is going to 

1310
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,920
kill the person that they love 
the most. 

1311
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,480
That's an Arthurian legend. 
But that and this whole thing 

1312
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:33,520
sounds Arthurian, right? 
Like it's not chivalrous to 

1313
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,320
fight with a weapon that's just 
too powerful. 

1314
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,680
So Brienne, anybody? 
Brienne wielding Oath Keeper. 

1315
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,640
What did we say about when we're
talking about the influence of 

1316
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,880
Narsil and Anduril, The Lord of 
the Rings sword, the Anduril 

1317
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,440
being the reforged version. 
Brienne is carrying around a 

1318
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:54,880
reforged magical sword too, 
right? 

1319
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,960
She's carrying around Oath 
Keeper, which is a reforged 

1320
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,280
version of Ice. 
Well, half of it or so. 

1321
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,160
So. 
So that's pretty cool. 

1322
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:08,600
Also like kind of like the just 
made Brienne doesn't just wield 

1323
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:14,000
Oath Keeper all the time. 
She kept it hidden until she 

1324
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,920
felt like it was time that they 
were about to have a fight. 

1325
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:21,080
Now, to be fair, partly she kept
it hidden because anyone who 

1326
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,360
catches sees that sword is going
to be like, whoa, look at that 

1327
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,680
thing. 
It's covered in rubies. 

1328
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,800
It's like that is a fancy ass 
sword. 

1329
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,880
You can't just it's going to 
catch attention. 

1330
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:31,440
Also the Lannister imagery and 
all that. 

1331
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:33,560
So that's a problem too. 
She doesn't want to get out. 

1332
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,800
She doesn't want to get noticed 
for that. 

1333
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,960
So there's there's more reasons 
to hide it, but ultimately it 

1334
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,720
still has a similar vibe to it. 
This is just made you don't use 

1335
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,160
it very. 
This is a sword for special 

1336
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,640
occasions. 
And she really did kick ass with

1337
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,880
it. 
And then Randall Tarley was 

1338
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,720
like, it was a sword. 
That's why she was so effective 

1339
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,440
against those outlaws. 
Nah, it was both The sword 

1340
01:12:54,440 --> 01:13:00,080
helped, but Brienne was amazing.
So, and keep this in mind, like 

1341
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,520
if she had been attacked 
suddenly, if she'd been 

1342
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,040
ambushed, she wouldn't have had 
time to draw Oath Keeper. 

1343
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,480
It's packed up in her saddlebag.
She had to tell Padre, hey, go 

1344
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:09,240
get it for me. 
Unroll it from the blanket. 

1345
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,560
And here, nimble Dick, you can 
have my sword, you know, in the 

1346
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,600
meantime, and you even have 
another parallel here. 

1347
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,480
The just made fell in love with 
her Galadon and gave him the 

1348
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:23,400
sword. 
Jamie gave Brienne the sword. 

1349
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,360
I don't know if I'd go so far to
say Jamie's in love with 

1350
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,280
Brienne, but there's some love 
there. 

1351
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,920
There's definitely respect, 
right? 

1352
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,560
Jamie absolutely respects 
Brienne's devotion, even if he 

1353
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,160
mocks her for it. 
Deep down he it's what he always

1354
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,680
wanted to be. 
It's what he thought he would be

1355
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,000
when he was 1415. 
She is what he thought he'd be 

1356
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,880
and some of that is seeing that 
mirror of himself. 

1357
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,680
It's disappointing and that's 
why he mocks her, because she's 

1358
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,920
what he wanted to be and he's 
mad about that. 

1359
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,680
But over time he starts to 
realize that and he's starts 

1360
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,080
mocking her less and less and 
does things like this that show 

1361
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,760
respect, that show honor, giving
her Oath Keeper. 

1362
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,640
Yes, it gets her in trouble, but
that's not his fault. 

1363
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,960
He didn't see that coming, he 
and he's not the Maiden, but he 

1364
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,360
has only slept with Cersei. 
And the Maiden protects young 

1365
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,560
women. 
That's one of her roles as said 

1366
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,280
by the Seven. 
That's the doctrine of the faith

1367
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,240
of the Seven. 
The Maiden protects young women.

1368
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:24,520
Jamie is arming and empowering 
Brienne to be as safe as she can

1369
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,360
on this dangerous quest. 
And what is her quest to save 

1370
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:33,880
two young women, Arya and Sansa?
Too bad Brienne was caught by 

1371
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,920
the stranger Catelyn in the 
meantime. 

1372
01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:39,680
Yeah, but maybe that'll have a 
happy ending. 

1373
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:44,760
Not too happy though. 
Sir Galahad. 

1374
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,480
There's a major influence you've
probably heard of Sir Galahad of

1375
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:50,320
the the Knight of the Round 
Table, but you may have 

1376
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,560
forgotten some of the specifics.
Let's get to it. 

1377
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,880
Sir Galadon of Mormon was called
the Perfect Knight. 

1378
01:14:55,320 --> 01:15:00,200
Sir Galahad was called the 
Perfect Knight, and the names 

1379
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,800
are similar. 
Galahad Galadon. 

1380
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,800
Yeah, that's real similar. 
Much of what makes him perfect. 

1381
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,680
Galahad in this case isn't 
skill, though he is extremely 

1382
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,760
skillful. 
It's his purity. 

1383
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,560
It's his chastity. 
He never even holds a woman's 

1384
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,800
hand. 
But as well, he lives a life 

1385
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,280
free of other sins. 
Brienne also hasn't even really 

1386
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,880
hold a man's hand, right. 
So there's a little of that. 

1387
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,720
Now, this is more of a 
comparison to Sir Galadon, but 

1388
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,520
again, Sir Galadon has a huge 
influence on Brienne and we see 

1389
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,920
some of these same kind of rare,
unusual personal qualities. 

1390
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,480
And Brienne would have been 
hearing these tales from a very 

1391
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:41,560
early age. 
Continuing with Galahad, he was 

1392
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,880
the bastard son of Lancelot and 
Elaine. 

1393
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,680
Elaine was the daughter of the 
Fisher King, and Elaine used 

1394
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,760
magic to make herself look like 
Guinevere. 

1395
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,400
That's why Lancelot slept with 
her. 

1396
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,720
When Lancelot found out about 
the deception, he got real mad 

1397
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,600
and went to go kill her, but he 
forgave her because she's like, 

1398
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,160
wait, we had a son together? 
And he's like, oh, we have a son

1399
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,120
together. 
OK. 

1400
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:07,720
So OK, I won't kill you now. 
The Fisher King received a 

1401
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,600
prophecy that his son is 
designated by God to be the one 

1402
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,720
that finds the Holy Grail, not 
not his son, this son and this 

1403
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,920
son of Lancelot and Elaine. 
And that is what happens. 

1404
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,160
Galahad is the one who finds the
Holy Grail, and it's because 

1405
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,640
he's pure enough. 
Only the purest knight will find

1406
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,320
the Holy Grail. 
That's Galahad. 

1407
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,040
Lancelot is reunited with his 
bastard son Galahad. 

1408
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:35,720
When Galahad turns 15, Lancelot 
Knights him after they have a 

1409
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:42,760
practice duel and Galahad wins. 
Lancelot never ever lost a fair 

1410
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,240
fight before or after, so this 
is extremely noteworthy and it's

1411
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,280
a reason to knight him so young 
like a Jamie. 

1412
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:54,880
Now Galahad passes 2 tests after
being brought to Camelot to join

1413
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,360
the round table. 
Let's not forget, by the way, 

1414
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,600
the Kingsguard, their table 
isn't round, but the room is, so

1415
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:02,960
there's a little bit of that 
vibe there too. 

1416
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:08,080
Now, the first is a chair of 
these two trials, the two tests 

1417
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,280
that Galahad passes. 
The 1st is a chair at the round 

1418
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,360
table. 
No one ever sits at it because 

1419
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:17,960
it's enchanted and only can be 
sat upon by the person who will 

1420
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,080
succeed in the grill quest. 
Many nights have sat there and 

1421
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,040
it killed them because they're 
not the knight who's going to 

1422
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,080
find the Grail. 
Galahad just sat down. 

1423
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,480
No prob. 
He lived. 

1424
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,920
That must be it then. 
He pulls the sword of Balin, the

1425
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,440
same sword I mentioned earlier, 
the knight with two swords. 

1426
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:37,160
Balin was one of the greatest, 
most powerful Knights of the 

1427
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,440
Round table or Knights of that 
era. 

1428
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:41,800
I don't remember if he was a 
round table or not. 

1429
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,520
He had a twin brother, Balin, 
and Balin, and Balin killed 

1430
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,200
Balin because his sword was 
cursed. 

1431
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,440
And so his sword was then put in
a stone very similar to 

1432
01:17:52,440 --> 01:17:54,480
Excalibur, right? 
It's obviously the same kind of 

1433
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:56,040
story. 
And Galahad pulled that sword 

1434
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,800
from the stone. 
So then he goes off searching 

1435
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,160
for the Grail. 
So he passes these two tests and

1436
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,040
no one else did. 
Then he performs miracles. 

1437
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,800
He saves damsels in distress, 
teams up with Percival and Boers

1438
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,040
to find the sword of King David 
because, yeah, he needed two 

1439
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,520
swords as well. 
He has the sword of Balin and he

1440
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,640
has the sword of King David. 
The sword of King David was 

1441
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,960
originally the sword of Goliath.
King David kills well before he 

1442
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,720
was king, but David kills 
Goliath, takes his sword and 

1443
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,840
that's the sword of King David. 
So that's quite a connection. 

1444
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,720
They got the Knights of the 
Round Table making this 

1445
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,000
connection of a blade that has 
existed since, you know, pre 

1446
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,800
Christian times. 
And since Galahad was a bastard,

1447
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,960
maybe Sir Galadon was as well. 
Again, we were wondering why 

1448
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,480
he's of mourn and not, you know,
a Lord or anything like that. 

1449
01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:47,000
It could imply a his his birth 
status wasn't so grand, someone 

1450
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,640
who rose up, which that's a good
story too, maybe arguably even 

1451
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,520
better story because of Morn 
isn't a house name. 

1452
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,480
It's not Sir Galadon Morn. 
It's like Brienne of Tarth, 

1453
01:18:57,480 --> 01:18:59,480
although in her case she is of 
house Tarth. 

1454
01:18:59,480 --> 01:19:03,120
So maybe that's it's confusing, 
but she's The only exception. 

1455
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,040
She's the only one called of 
Tarth, right? 

1456
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,200
Everybody else is it's Sir 
Andrew Tarth. 

1457
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,600
It's not Sir Andrew of Tarth. 
So it's a little confusing and 

1458
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,240
it's happens to be a little 
funny that the one exception is 

1459
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,960
Brienne of Tarth when and we're 
thinking of this Galadon of 

1460
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:21,560
Morn. 
So Galav had sacrifices a lot to

1461
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,840
complete the quest and a lot of 
symbolism here in terms of yes, 

1462
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,600
this was a change from the 
Knights of the Round Table. 

1463
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:32,000
Their focus, once Galahad came 
around, their focus was the 

1464
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,200
Grail, and it became a focus of 
this is piety and purity, 

1465
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,440
heavenly devotion rather than 
earthly devotion. 

1466
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:41,400
You serve God on earth or you're
serving God. 

1467
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,040
You know, later it's a different
versions of that. 

1468
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,560
And Brienne herself is a fairly 
excellent example of all this. 

1469
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,880
Yes, Sir Galadon in turn 
represents Brienne. 

1470
01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:52,200
Sir Galadon was a good example 
to follow. 

1471
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,400
They're both perfect. 
Brienne is, as we've said, the 

1472
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,400
closest thing we have to a 
perfect night in terms of how 

1473
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,360
she behaves and how she keeps 
her oaths and what she just 

1474
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:03,760
thinks and does. 
We, we're in her head. 

1475
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:08,800
We know it's it's sincere. 
And maybe Sir Galadon, it really

1476
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,920
was like that too. 
We know Sir Galahad was from 

1477
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,880
Arthurian legends. 
And if Sir Galadon was really 

1478
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,240
like that, then this is a, you 
know, very legit source of, of 

1479
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,160
inspiration for her and other 
people from Tarth. 

1480
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,280
And it might not be exaggerated 
or not too much. 

1481
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,280
I mean the part about the just 
made probably is, but he may 

1482
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:29,880
have really been just pure kind 
of guy, even if it was probably 

1483
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:34,640
exaggerated a little more. 
About Morn, it's a defunct 

1484
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,920
Kingdom on the eastern side of 
Tarth, IE the coast facing the 

1485
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,240
Narrow sea and beyond. 
The more dangerous side, the 

1486
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,280
coast hit harder by storms, the 
the side more vulnerable to 

1487
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,560
invasions like this. 
In an earlier quote that Ishaya 

1488
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,640
Red, we're told that a certain 
Maester Hubert argued that Morn 

1489
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,080
was a minor and all Kingdom 
carved out of Tarth, taken from 

1490
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,040
the even Star and thus taken 
from the Storm Kings who Tarth 

1491
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,040
was a vassal to. 
And then over time they got to 

1492
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:02,400
hold that because so many more 
Andals came more may have even 

1493
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,320
been a success story that 
encourage further incursions, 

1494
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,680
further migrations more and more
something accelerated the rate 

1495
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,120
of and all's coming partly 
because there's just more places

1496
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,880
for them to come and get jobs 
and live in and all kingdoms, 

1497
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:19,760
but also because it was working.
Hey, so many people of our who 

1498
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,600
came from here, from Andalos are
moving there and having great 

1499
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:23,960
success. 
I want to join in. 

1500
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:25,640
In the early days of the 
migrations. 

1501
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:26,920
Well, they weren't sure if it 
was going to work. 

1502
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,920
Not everyone went, only the 
boldest and bravest and most 

1503
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,800
devout. 
But as success continued, more 

1504
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,880
and more people did it. 
So you might have noticed as 

1505
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,800
well here that we were talking 
about islands. 

1506
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,120
You can't exactly sail ships to 
the Irie, right? 

1507
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:47,160
The Andals came to the Vale, but
they had to switch to, you know,

1508
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,640
land campaigns. 
But you can sail to Tarth, you 

1509
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,680
can sail to Estremon, you can 
sail to Griffin's Roost because 

1510
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,840
it's right there on the shore. 
Those are all targets that the 

1511
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,120
Golden Company has recently 
seized at the end of or near the

1512
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,760
end of A Dance with Dragons. 
Not to suggest the end. 

1513
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,560
All invaders were as competent 
or as disciplined or as united 

1514
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,360
as the Golden Company. 
No, certainly not. 

1515
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,480
But overall they were certainly 
more numerous. 

1516
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:13,280
There's more than 10,000 involve
migrants than than you know, the

1517
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,520
Golden Company has 10,000. 
But the point is that Tarth is a

1518
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,600
Big Island with a small to 
modest sized population, so it's

1519
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,320
hard for it to have the manpower
to defend all its coasts, even 

1520
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,800
if they knew these guys were 
coming, which they probably 

1521
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,640
didn't. 
Now there's also the invasion of

1522
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,080
Mir Men on the East Coast of 
Tars which resulted in the 

1523
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,880
Mirrors bloodbath, which we'll 
get to in chronological order. 

1524
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,560
I suspect this was near the 
region of Morn, though. 

1525
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,760
I suspect the the Mirrors 
pirates and exiles who seized 

1526
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,160
the eastern coast of Tars. 
I bet this was Mir Morn, if not 

1527
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,960
the exact area of Morn. 
They may have repurposed some of

1528
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,720
those ruins for their base of 
operations even. 

1529
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:56,800
Point being, there are multiple 
examples of successful foreign 

1530
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,000
invasions on the East Coast of 
Tarth. 

1531
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,640
Not only is Sir Galadon's story 
very nightly all the way 

1532
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,600
through, as we said, his name of
Morn. 

1533
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,760
Given all we just said is an and
all name, right? 

1534
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,040
The ruins are and all 
architecture. 

1535
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,360
Morn is an and all name. 
Apparently all that points to 

1536
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:19,760
and all maybe the Mourns married
into even Fall Hall as an end as

1537
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,480
a appropriate ending of 
nonviolent ending to their 

1538
01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:26,680
family kind of becoming subsumed
into the what became a temporary

1539
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,560
royal family or became a new 
vassal of Storm Kings, a new and

1540
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,320
more powerful vassal. 
Now, even Storm's End has signs 

1541
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,760
of Vandal architecture, but not 
the original, not the original 

1542
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,680
foundation. 
So it's always got to remember 

1543
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:42,400
that these things get added to, 
changed, rebuilt, problems 

1544
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:43,720
happen, and you got to fix 
things. 

1545
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,120
Same thing is true at 
Winterfell. 

1546
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:51,760
Let's go to Under the Dragons. 
We're getting very close to our 

1547
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,320
current timeline and let's see 
what's going on here. 

1548
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:59,320
We'll start with a quote. 
The Kingdom of the Storm shrank,

1549
01:23:59,480 --> 01:24:03,360
king by king, battle by battle, 
year by year. 

1550
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:09,680
The fall was halted briefly when
a fierce warrior, Prince Argalac

1551
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,680
called the Arrogant, donned the 
Stags crown. 

1552
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:19,440
But even a man as mighty as he 
could only stay at the tide, not

1553
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:23,800
turn it back. 
Last of the Storm Kings, last of

1554
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,280
the Durandin. 
Argalac did just that for a 

1555
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,320
time. 
So this is a big leap forward in

1556
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:35,080
time right before or during the 
conquest when Storms End was 

1557
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:39,040
very andalized too. 
So Tarth I suspect was right 

1558
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,880
there with Ardelecht. 
His Tarths Knights were probably

1559
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,000
on the field. 
The Lord of the even Star 

1560
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,640
himself of the time might have 
been on the field too. 

1561
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,200
If so, they surely took heavy 
losses because it was a very 

1562
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,600
bloody battle and it's hard to 
imagine anyone not taking heavy 

1563
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,000
losses there. 
But they might have sat out 

1564
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,760
because a lot of houses didn't 
want to face the Dragons. 

1565
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,640
But most of the houses did face 
the Dragons at least once, so 

1566
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,200
they didn't look like cowards. 
I guess the North was an 

1567
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,480
exception. 
Very few houses stood up to the 

1568
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:09,480
Dragons twice. 
Whether Tarth learned the lesson

1569
01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:12,160
without having to learn the 
lesson or had to have some 

1570
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:16,840
Dragons go down to Moraxi's is 
currently an unknown, but I'm 

1571
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,840
guessing they fought and took 
heavy losses. 

1572
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,040
Because that's generally 
speaking. 

1573
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:24,840
I'm going to guess that the 
Tarths did the more noble, 

1574
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,680
honorable thing. 
Not always, of course, but 

1575
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,560
without without other 
information, that's when I'm 

1576
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,800
going to tend to. 
That's where my brains going to 

1577
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,440
go for the actual conquest after
it. 

1578
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,920
Oris Baratheon, of course, 
subsumed the Durandans, made 

1579
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,320
them Baratheons his, their 
bloodlines all go through him as

1580
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:45,080
an apex. 
And when Oris was captured in 

1581
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:50,360
four AC by Lord Will the Widow 
lover, that was not good. 

1582
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,120
These are the guys who were in 
prison for three years and then 

1583
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,720
had their sword hands cut off 
when a ransom was finally 

1584
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,200
arranged. 
Now most of them were killed 

1585
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,360
before that, but if there were 
high highborn Knights or the 

1586
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,000
Lord of Tarth himself might have
been there, well, that would not

1587
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,680
have been a pleasant experience.
At some point, probably after 

1588
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,120
this, but maybe before, Queen 
Rainey's arranged a triple 

1589
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:16,720
marriage because Lord of Tarth 
and his lady wife had triplets. 

1590
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,960
And it gives us a bit of an 
indication of what level of 

1591
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:25,160
status House Tarth had after the
conquest, and it gives us a bit 

1592
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,160
of an idea of what the status 
they have now in terms of 

1593
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,320
primacy amongst the other 
houses. 

1594
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,480
So these three marriages were to
Corbrae, Harlaw and Hightower. 

1595
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,520
You know, I have a question. 
We don't really see a lot of 

1596
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,240
other triplets. 
Do you think there's an element 

1597
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,720
that they were even higher 
status for being triplets? 

1598
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,840
Like they were more, you know, 
appealing? 

1599
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,840
I was like stock, I don't know. 
It could be, it might be that 

1600
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,360
might sound fertile. 
It might in the in the medieval,

1601
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,520
proto medieval mind that may 
imply fertility or or bode well 

1602
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,120
for more children. 
Yeah, I could see them making a 

1603
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,560
simple connection like that. 
Nice and spread out. 

1604
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,720
So you got Harlow on the Iron 
Islands, Hightower very far to 

1605
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,600
the southwest in the region, 
Corboret up in the Vale. 

1606
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,120
So interesting way to bring 
these houses together. 

1607
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,520
Generally pretty effective 
strategy by Rainis and Visenya 

1608
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,640
to create a lot of cross Kingdom
marriages under Anis. 

1609
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:19,480
Obviously the second king, the 
even star had a second son who 

1610
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:22,440
married Larissa Valarian. 
That's a very high status 

1611
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:25,080
marriage too. 
And this is the second son, not 

1612
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,160
the first son. 
And they had a daughter who in 

1613
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,360
turn married Lord Estermont, who
was an elderly man. 

1614
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:33,040
And this happened in 55 AC, So 
there was probably no issue from

1615
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,000
that branch. 
So there's no cool Valerian 

1616
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,480
Tarth branch out there, but it 
kind of also sounds like this. 

1617
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,760
This second son of the even star
kind of sold his daughter 

1618
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,480
because why else do you marry 
your daughter to a really 

1619
01:27:47,480 --> 01:27:49,800
elderly man? 
That's just kind of weird unless

1620
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:54,760
you do something in it for you. 
We see the Lord, the elderly 

1621
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,840
Lord Estermont marry. 
Is it Silva Spotted Silva? 

1622
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,640
Yeah. 
So it's kind of a, a history 

1623
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,960
repeating itself kind of thing. 
George playing around with that.

1624
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,760
Of course, Spotted Silva was one
of the people caught alongside 

1625
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:12,960
Arianne doing her, her, you 
know, play with Marcella. 

1626
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,800
So the old Esterma, old turtle. 
You know. 

1627
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,680
Kind of trope, but George 
himself is an old turtle right? 

1628
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,240
A game of the Narrow Sea. 
The Narrow Sea contains a lot of

1629
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,200
different powers. 
Obviously, outside of Westeros 

1630
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,760
and in Westeros in ancient 
times, it would be both. 

1631
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,880
And those would be, you know, 
the Isles of Blackwater Bay, the

1632
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:38,520
sisters, Estremont, and then the
Free Cities, Bravos, Pentos, Mir

1633
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:43,400
Lis, Tirosh mostly, and also 
Volantis, Lorath, Kohora, 

1634
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,200
Norvos, probably not so much, 
but maybe a little. 

1635
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:47,960
And there's often fighting over 
the step stones. 

1636
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,520
That's the thing that just 
happens from time to time, 

1637
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,640
right? 
They're not a big player in any 

1638
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,880
of this, but they're right there
in it, like geographically 

1639
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,440
speaking. 
So they get caught up in it from

1640
01:28:56,440 --> 01:28:59,080
time to time. 
They're not necessarily a big 

1641
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,280
producer of ships or major Trade
Center. 

1642
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:03,280
They still get caught up in 
these things. 

1643
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,600
You know, they do make some 
ships, they do do some trading 

1644
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,240
happens there. 
You know, a particularly notable

1645
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,080
example is when we mentioned 
briefly earlier that we've now 

1646
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,440
arrived at in the chronology, 
King Jerry's the first, the old 

1647
01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:19,040
king, the conciliator. 
There was later in his reign, 

1648
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:20,920
there was the mirrorish 
bloodbath. 

1649
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:26,120
It happened in the year 91 and 
by the year 92 it was a civil 

1650
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,560
war that led to 1 faction being 
expelled and exiled. 

1651
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,880
They still had a lot of strength
though. 

1652
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,720
They fled Tairash with their 
army and ships and landed on 

1653
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:41,040
Tarth again, SE coast basically,
and carved out a spot. 

1654
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,600
So this is, like I said, 
probably around Morn, and it's a

1655
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,880
little bit like a microcosm of 
the Andols coming in. 

1656
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,480
They forced their way there. 
They were kind of fleeing the 

1657
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:54,280
Valyrians, the original Andols. 
This is well, they're not 

1658
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,480
fleeing the Valyrians, but they 
are flaring, fleeing a city 

1659
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:01,240
founded by Valyria that was once
ruled by Valyria. 

1660
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,840
So this losing faction was doing
their thing. 

1661
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,720
And Lord Cameron Tarth, the 
Evenstar couldn't deal with them

1662
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:08,440
himself. 
He did. 

1663
01:30:08,440 --> 01:30:09,800
He lacked the strength to do it 
alone. 

1664
01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:13,920
So the throne, the Iron Throne 
took joined in. 

1665
01:30:14,440 --> 01:30:17,600
They sent powerful people to 
help the Sea Snake, who was kind

1666
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,440
of a younger man then, but was 
already very strong, very 

1667
01:30:20,440 --> 01:30:22,640
notable. 
He was sent with this fleet. 

1668
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:27,840
The Valyrian fleet showed up and
they transferred ships from the 

1669
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,520
mainland across the Straits of 
Tarth. 

1670
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:33,400
So the royal armies and and 
other levees were safely 

1671
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,680
transported from the mainland to
Tarth with the protection of the

1672
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:41,520
Sea Snake ships. 
But more importantly Master of 

1673
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,640
Laws and Prince of Dragonstone 
Eamon Targaryen, rider of 

1674
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:48,680
Caraxes went as well. 
Now, the reason he went was 

1675
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,720
because he learned his daughter 
Rainey's, the future Queen who 

1676
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,640
never was, was pregnant, as it 
turns out with Lena. 

1677
01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:58,480
Of course, Rainey's married to 
the sea snakes. 

1678
01:30:58,480 --> 01:30:59,600
There's a lot of connection 
here. 

1679
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,760
So he, you know, satisfied that 
he's got an heir on the way who 

1680
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:08,480
turned out to be passed over. 
As we know, Prince Eamon goes 

1681
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:10,160
with his dragon. 
He meets with the even star. 

1682
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,840
He flies to a war camp up in the
mountains. 

1683
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,640
Cameron Tarth sets up his camp 
in the mountains sort of in 

1684
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:21,760
central Tarth there to as a 
staging area to launch their 

1685
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,440
invasion of the southeastern 
portion of the island to take it

1686
01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:26,600
back. 
Right. 

1687
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:32,480
And the mere men, though, were 
not just sitting there. 

1688
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:36,440
They sent out scouts to try to 
figure out what the even star 

1689
01:31:36,440 --> 01:31:38,400
was doing. 
And they probably learned if the

1690
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,680
Royals were involved. 
And so they were concerned and 

1691
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,200
wanted to see what they were up 
against. 

1692
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:47,120
Two of their scouts either got 
local help and or got lucky 

1693
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:54,440
because they found the camp and 
not only discovered the location

1694
01:31:54,440 --> 01:31:59,200
of the Royal Army and the Tarth 
Army, but they found the command

1695
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:04,960
tent and a vantage point to look
down on it. 2 scouts did this. 

1696
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,440
One of them pulls out a crossbow
and decides, well he's going to 

1697
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:10,200
go for it because it's close 
enough. 

1698
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,280
They're close enough. 
That's why I said they got kind 

1699
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,160
of lucky here. 
They were able to find their way

1700
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,800
to this close to the command 
tent and take a shot at Lord 

1701
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,120
Tarth. 
Prince Amon was standing right 

1702
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,280
there, and he's the one who got 
hit. 

1703
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:25,480
We're told that the scout was 
aiming for the even star, but he

1704
01:32:25,480 --> 01:32:28,920
struck the Prince in the throat,
killing him. 

1705
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,680
Now Amon's next brother, Balon, 
Balon the Brave, responded 

1706
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,920
viciously. 
He brought Vergar and burned all

1707
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,160
the mirrors ships at anchor. 
Now this tells you immediately 

1708
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:43,400
what what's going to happen 
next. 

1709
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,480
He he cut off their method of 
escape. 

1710
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,400
Now while he's doing that, 
because he doesn't want any of 

1711
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:53,680
them to escape and they didn't. 
It may have been an entire 

1712
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,800
massacre. 
Every mere man may have been 

1713
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,840
killed. 
Bailon didn't use Vergar for the

1714
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:04,480
killing of the soldiers. 
He took a Dark Sister and went 

1715
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:08,320
on the ground with everybody 
else and killed a lot of people.

1716
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,920
They didn't bury the bodies, 
they left them on the beaches. 

1717
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:17,480
All the Mirish dead were left 
there rotting, which almost 

1718
01:33:17,480 --> 01:33:20,160
certainly means for years and 
years after they were finding 

1719
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,680
bones, you know, maybe even the 
occasional piece of loot. 

1720
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,560
A Lord Tarth was at the Great 
Council of One O 1, and it may 

1721
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:31,240
have been Brindamere Tarth, 
because this is the next Lord 

1722
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:34,240
Tarth we know of. 
This Lord Brindamere. 

1723
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:39,920
The Evenstar did side with the 
Greens, but Otto was worried 

1724
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,920
that they would side with 
Reynira, so that might tell us 

1725
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,360
something about how they voted 
in One O 1. 

1726
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,840
They may have sided with 
Reynira, or rather with Elenor, 

1727
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:53,480
but we don't know. 
And but Otto's worry does imply 

1728
01:33:53,480 --> 01:33:55,960
something there. 
During the Dance, the Royal 

1729
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,560
fleet actually stopped over at 
Tarth on the way to the 

1730
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,160
Stepstones before all that 
business happened. 

1731
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,880
So it's just another example of 
Tarth being a a valuable 

1732
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,760
stopping point on the way to 
important campaign destinations.

1733
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,680
And Lord Brindemere, when they 
did that later, Lord Brindemere 

1734
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,960
boosted the fleet. 
He added 12 long ships to the 

1735
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,560
royal fleet that was sent to 
deal with Riccalio Rendoon after

1736
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,960
the dance. 
And it was Lord Brindemere who 

1737
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:24,840
reported to the other leaders at
Tarth that Riccalio had allied 

1738
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:28,160
with Tairash and Bravo. 
So it was his whisperers or his 

1739
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,160
informants that brought that 
information, which tells us a 

1740
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,120
little bit about how maybe the 
even stars operate in the Free 

1741
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:34,640
Cities. 
They need to know what's going 

1742
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:38,040
on because of their proximity 
and because of history tells 

1743
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,200
them that things like this can 
happen now. 

1744
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,200
Two of the greatest storms in 
living memory were, 

1745
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:48,600
unsurprisingly, in the Storm 
Lands. 166 and 221 are two of 

1746
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,040
the biggest storms ever recorded
according to the World of Ice 

1747
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,880
and Fire. 
Those very likely cause a lot of

1748
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,480
harm to Tarth, even though Tarth
is maybe a little bit more 

1749
01:34:56,480 --> 01:34:58,560
protected because of its 
geography. 

1750
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:02,080
Still, these were such huge 
storms that it's unlikely they 

1751
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:06,360
escaped without some damage. 
As an aside that these two 

1752
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,560
storms were during the rains of 
Baylor the Blessed and Aries the

1753
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,360
first, respectively. 
Baylor the blessed must have had

1754
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,720
an opinion on a storm like this.
It's something to do with, you 

1755
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,680
know, the gods. 
Whatever Aries is, the first 

1756
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,040
probably just went right back to
his books. 

1757
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,120
He's like, it's raining. 
All right, I'm going to go read 

1758
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:28,040
again. 
Now working our way into the 

1759
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:32,040
hedge night Duncan Egg area. 
There was a Sir Quentin Tarth 

1760
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,440
present at Ashford Meadow in Two
O 9. 

1761
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,880
My little prediction is that 
we're going to see that on TV. 

1762
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,680
Good way to little draw 
attention to this connection 

1763
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:46,080
that we're about to get to Sir 
Duncan and the Tarthgaryens. 

1764
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,040
Yes, I mashed Tarthgaryen and 
Targaryen together. 

1765
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,200
I'm allowed to do that. 
Here's a quote. 

1766
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:57,960
The Sapphire Aisle, as some call
it, is ruled by House Tarth of 

1767
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:03,320
Even Fall Hall, an old family of
Andal descent that boasts of 

1768
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:07,920
ties to the Durandins, the 
Baratheons, and more recently, 

1769
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:12,040
to House Targaryen. 
Once kings in their own right, 

1770
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:17,880
the Lords of Tarth still style 
themselves the Even Star, a 

1771
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:22,720
title that they claim goes back 
unto the dawn of days. 

1772
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,880
Notice how this says end all 
descent and it doesn't even 

1773
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,840
mention the first man descent. 
But then it turns around and 

1774
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,160
says that the even star title 
goes back to well beyond the end

1775
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,480
all. 
So yeah, it it it kind of 

1776
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:36,360
implies here. 
The way I interpret that is that

1777
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:40,120
the end all intermingling was 
really, really overwhelming on 

1778
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,800
Tarth. 
So Nina says, and I agree, this 

1779
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:44,960
is a theory. 
It's been around for a while. 

1780
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:49,240
Let's go through the particulars
of Brienne and Duncan. 

1781
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,960
Duncan the Tall. 
So it starts with Brienne's 

1782
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,600
paternal great grandfather that 
would be the son of Daella and 

1783
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:59,320
Duncan. 
Now, Daella Targaryen did marry 

1784
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:02,240
into Tarth, and we know. 
You what? 

1785
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,080
Daella. 
You got to say it once. 

1786
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:06,480
Daella. 
Like Paella? 

1787
01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:08,760
Yes, that is our running joke, 
isn't it? 

1788
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,520
Yes, she is a a a a mishmash of 
food types. 

1789
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,200
Proceed. 
Thank you. 

1790
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,600
So Dunks shield was at Tarth. 
We know that Brienne remembers 

1791
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,240
it, right? 
She remembers seeing it when she

1792
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,280
was a kid. 
She doesn't necessarily. 

1793
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:28,120
She doesn't know exactly what 
the deal was, but we certainly 

1794
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,800
do now. 
They didn't hide it or destroy 

1795
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,080
it, so it wasn't shameful. 
They would have gotten rid of it

1796
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:34,840
if it was some big scandal. 
They wouldn't have just left it 

1797
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,040
sitting there. 
So Dunks, whatever Dunks 

1798
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,720
involved in with House Tarth 
was, and there must have been 

1799
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,320
something. 
It doesn't seem to have been 

1800
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:46,560
overly scandalous. 
Or if it was scandalous, it was 

1801
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,520
not so scandalous that it caused
a big problem, like, hey, it's 

1802
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:54,040
not a bad thing necessarily to 
have a connection to Sir Duncan 

1803
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,800
the Tall, even if he know, broke
his oaths or something like that

1804
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,240
to father a child. 
Yeah. 

1805
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,880
This is something that's not 
fully fleshed out, although 

1806
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,160
maybe it is in George's mind. 
So. 

1807
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,120
Hi. 
If the shield, if the story was 

1808
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,280
just well known, then what's the
point of hiding the shield? 

1809
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,720
Like, everybody knows Duncan the
Tall went there and everyone's 

1810
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,880
aware of the story. 
What's the point of the shield? 

1811
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,040
Yeah, everybody knows already. 
You're hiding something that's 

1812
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,120
already exposed. 
And Brienne finds the Lofton 

1813
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:22,240
shield at Harrenhal. 
Now that's a a shield that has 

1814
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,760
far more reason to have been 
disposed of than a Dunk's 

1815
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:30,240
shield, because Dunk's not a 
villain, whereas the Lofton's 

1816
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,000
were a fairly villainous 
sinister house that had a 

1817
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:37,800
sinister, villainous ending. 
So yeah. 

1818
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:39,920
But also, maybe the story just 
didn't get out. 

1819
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,120
Maybe the story is under wraps. 
Maybe. 

1820
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:49,840
Yeah, Duncan may have slept with
the Lady of Tarth and that was 

1821
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,840
kept under wraps. 
I mean, Brienne doesn't know, 

1822
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,440
right? 
She's done, doesn't seem to be 

1823
01:38:54,440 --> 01:38:57,160
aware of Sir Duncan Natal being 
her ancestor. 

1824
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,200
If she if she is, she hasn't 
thought about it yet. 

1825
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,280
And it seems odd because she 
would recognize the shield if 

1826
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:04,680
she knows the story of Sir 
Duncan Natal. 

1827
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,600
That shield wouldn't be just 
some childhood memory, it would 

1828
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,440
be something she has more 
information on, so that's 

1829
01:39:11,440 --> 01:39:12,760
telling. 
I don't think she knows who's 

1830
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,120
her Duncan the Tall is other 
than, well, she knows who he is.

1831
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,280
She doesn't know the connection 
to her own house. 

1832
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,280
We know that the Targaryens and 
Tarths intermarried relatively 

1833
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:21,640
recently. 
That's a fact. 

1834
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,840
And the only real unknowns in 
terms of Targaryen marriages on 

1835
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,120
the family tree are egg sisters.
There's really no other fit 

1836
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:32,520
here. 
So one very easy explanation as 

1837
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,520
Nina puts it is Dunk would have 
gone to Tarth. 

1838
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,400
The same reason we see Aries 
Okar go to Dorn or Dunk 

1839
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:43,960
escorting Eamon to the to the 
docks, which is a shorter 

1840
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,640
distance you know. 
But but Duncan escorting someone

1841
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,400
that's having a send off, it 
happens a few times. 

1842
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:54,160
So the famous Kingsguard knight 
escorting the Targaryen Princess

1843
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,920
to marry into House Tarth, that 
is a thing that's very easy to 

1844
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,880
imagine. 
So after Egg's marriage to 

1845
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:06,960
Betha, what may have happened is
Makar decided to separate Dunkin

1846
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:13,600
Egg and sent Dunk to Tarth. 
To set up this new marriage in 

1847
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,280
place of what was probably 
originally going to be Egg 

1848
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:20,520
marrying Daya Dale himself. 
It was probably that was 

1849
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,560
probably going to be the deal. 
Egg was probably going to marry 

1850
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:27,600
his sister, but that got thrown 
the window when he fell for 

1851
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,200
Betha and Makar and others were 
like, ah, fine, he's not going 

1852
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:31,680
to inherit anyway. 
We'll let it go. 

1853
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:33,040
We'll let it slide. 
Oops. 

1854
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,400
So it's very plausible, all 
this, the separation of a dunk 

1855
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,640
being sent there. 
The separation is part of it. 

1856
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:44,120
And then so on the way, while 
he's escorting her, they get to 

1857
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:49,440
talking. 
Daia notices how big and 

1858
01:40:49,440 --> 01:40:53,680
handsome and chivalrous he is, 
and Dunk notices how spicy and 

1859
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:59,160
tasty Daia is. 
And they, you know, they hook up

1860
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,960
and she gets pregnant and they 
pass the child off as a tart. 

1861
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,240
No one ever reveals. 
And maybe Dunk doesn't even 

1862
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:07,400
know. 
Maybe it's just kind of an he's 

1863
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,200
like, I wonder, could that be my
child? 

1864
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:13,280
I don't know. 
So yeah, they would do that. 

1865
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:16,640
They would pass the child off as
a true born Tarth, especially if

1866
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,440
the Lord Tarth at the time 
wasn't aware, which he probably 

1867
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:22,800
wasn't. 
So yeah, a Tarth being fit to 

1868
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,960
marry a Targaryen, it is kind of
interesting and there's a few 

1869
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:28,600
reasons why it might have 
happened. 1 might be their 

1870
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,160
connection to House Baratheon. 
By itself, that's probably not 

1871
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,560
enough and maybe not even 
terribly relevant, but it 

1872
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,920
definitely, I think it matters. 
You know, if you're having a 

1873
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:39,240
marriage to the royal family and
you have Baratheon ties or 

1874
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,080
Baratheon blood, well, that just
puts you even closer to House 

1875
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,920
Targaryen because the Baratheons
are related to the Targaryens, 

1876
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:48,880
especially in that that 
connection is closer the farther

1877
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,280
back we go. 
Until it was kind of restored 

1878
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,120
here. 
Now, we don't know which 

1879
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:57,280
Baratheons married House Tarth. 
It is absolutely specified that 

1880
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:00,040
that happened. 
It may be multiple examples, but

1881
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,800
we don't actually have the 
specifics. 

1882
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,000
We don't have to have an 
explanation here. 

1883
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:10,280
The Tarths could just be noble 
enough, highly ranked enough, 

1884
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,280
how well regarded enough for 
this to be sufficient? 

1885
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:18,120
Another reason is Makar very 
concerned with the black fires. 

1886
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:20,480
What do we say? 
The black fires are so close by 

1887
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:22,920
the black, the golden company 
lands in Tarth. 

1888
01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:26,800
Well, if you're worried about 
Tarth, staying loyal is a great 

1889
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:31,440
way to keep them in the fold. 
Keep marry into House Targaryen.

1890
01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:33,120
So this is a there's a political
reason here. 

1891
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,280
This is still when the black 
players were very active and and

1892
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,640
bringing House Tarth into the 
fold or keeping House Tarth in 

1893
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:41,000
the fold makes a lot of sense as
a strategy, as a marriage 

1894
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:45,120
strategy. 
And again, there's a lot of 

1895
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,960
other potential connections that
are just missing from us here. 

1896
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:52,040
And Dunk really fits nicely with
the heraldry, like he has his 

1897
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:56,280
shooting star and their heraldry
is moon and star and an even 

1898
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,960
star, right? 
So there you go, our moon and 

1899
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,760
sun and the even star rather. 
And Brienne is she fits the 

1900
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,920
definition of a knight errant 
pretty well, which is kind of an

1901
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:07,680
Arthurian thing. 
And the term knight errant came 

1902
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:11,440
along much later than Arthurian 
legends, like way later. 

1903
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:13,640
But it very much applies the 
concept. 

1904
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:18,040
A knight errant is someone who 
tends to go wandering and seeks 

1905
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,600
out quests. 
They often serve a a noble lady 

1906
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,320
and they often are trying to 
rescue women, which Brianna is 

1907
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:27,600
doing, but Duncan is did as 
well. 

1908
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,800
Now Brianna isn't wandering in 
search of a quest. 

1909
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,320
She's wandering as part of her 
quest because she doesn't know 

1910
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,360
where Santa and Ari are and 
she's kind of doesn't have a lot

1911
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:41,680
of leads to follow or a dunk 
actually, along with Egg 

1912
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,480
actually wander. 
They're just like, well, we'll 

1913
01:43:44,480 --> 01:43:46,840
go off and wonder and we'll just
see what happens wherever we end

1914
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,680
up. 
That's like the truest form of 

1915
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,320
knight errantry. 
I think their only purpose is to

1916
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,720
stay alive and be good, which 
is, hey, you can't got to 

1917
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,640
respect that. 
Now, sticking with Arthurian 

1918
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:02,040
connections here briefly, Nina 
suggests the Dunk Dale romance 

1919
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:07,280
may be an homage or partly 
inspired or at least a parallel 

1920
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,280
to the story of Tristan and is 
sold. 

1921
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:13,240
Tristan was the nephew of King 
Mark of Cornwall and he 

1922
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:18,800
accompanied Slash escorted is 
sold the Princess of Ireland to 

1923
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:26,280
marry his uncle and on the 
journey under a love potion they

1924
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:28,240
fall for each other. 
Now the love potion part is 

1925
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:32,520
funny and has a connection too 
because remember Egg talks about

1926
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:37,480
how his sister Daella Daella 
cooked up a concoction, a spicy 

1927
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,440
concoction to make him fall in 
love with her. 

1928
01:44:40,480 --> 01:44:42,760
Here we have a love potion story
again. 

1929
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:48,680
So Tristan and is sold because 
of the potion hook up and they 

1930
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:51,520
get caught up in a tragic 
conflict. 

1931
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:55,600
Love duty, all that business is 
sold. 

1932
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,120
It goes through with the 
marriage to Mark. 

1933
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:00,720
But she loves Tristan. 
Tristan loves his soul, but she 

1934
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,600
honors but he honors his uncle. 
He doesn't hate them. 

1935
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,560
King Mark isn't some bad guy in 
the story and he loves them 

1936
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,000
both. 
So yeah, it's real, real 

1937
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:13,200
complicated, real real, real 
dangerous, real iffy, but you 

1938
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,360
could see the compare. 
If the theory about Da Ella and 

1939
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:20,160
Dunk is accurate, and I 
definitely think it is, then 

1940
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:24,840
this is absolutely a parallel A 
Song of Ice and Fire and Tarth. 

1941
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:29,600
Now we're in current timeline. 
It is mentioned House Tarth in 

1942
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,120
the prologue of Clash of Kings. 
As we said way back at the 

1943
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:35,280
beginning here or early in the 
episode, Crescent was asking 

1944
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,800
Gavos how did your mission go? 
You went to try to meet with 

1945
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,440
other storm Lords to win support
for tennis. 

1946
01:45:40,440 --> 01:45:43,120
How did it go? 
His report is grim. 

1947
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,280
Few people would even meet with 
him, most to say refuse to meet 

1948
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,400
with him at all. 
Lord Selwyn 1 is was the one of 

1949
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:54,040
the very few who actually 
deigned to meet with him at a 

1950
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:59,760
Grove at midnight to decline. 
So he went out of his way, took 

1951
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:06,400
a risk to say no. 
That is the behavior of a a 

1952
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,320
noble person. 
That's an honorable thing to do.

1953
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:12,360
He didn't just ignore Davos. 
He didn't ignore his, his, you 

1954
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,840
know, duty to Stannis. 
But he also wasn't just going to

1955
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,760
go against the entirety of the 
Stormlands who were following 

1956
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:20,040
Renly. 
He's like, yeah, sorry. 

1957
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:23,160
I want to give you the respect 
of meeting with you, even though

1958
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,280
it's a Grove at midnight, 
because I don't want anyone to 

1959
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,640
find out about this, but I'm 
willing to do this. 

1960
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,280
I'm willing to take a little bit
of a risk to tell you to your 

1961
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,960
face what's going on. 
So I I think that's a little, 

1962
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,960
that definitely implies a little
bit of something positive about 

1963
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,240
Lord Selwyn. 
And if you read between the 

1964
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:44,080
lines throughout the novels, 
Lord Selwyn always seems to be 

1965
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,360
well regarded. 
There's no one speaking I'll of 

1966
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:50,360
him at any point, right? 
So that is telling as well. 

1967
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,240
And the ransom he offers for 
Brienne, we're told is fair, 

1968
01:46:54,480 --> 01:46:56,480
right? 
Of course, Vargo expected 

1969
01:46:56,480 --> 01:47:00,920
sapphire, but what he got was a 
fever, so yeah. 

1970
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:06,560
So Selwyn isn't actually, you 
know, being cheap when he offers

1971
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:08,720
300 gold Dragons for a night. 
That's apparently a very 

1972
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:10,880
standard, even even if a little 
bit higher. 

1973
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:17,240
So everything we know of seems 
to point him as a good guy. 

1974
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:21,960
Now. 
Sir Andrew Tarth is the one who 

1975
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:22,960
we talked about way at the 
beginning. 

1976
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,240
He replaced Sir Alistair Thorne 
as the Master at Arms. 

1977
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,960
He's not the Master at Arms 
anymore because he was killed at

1978
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,640
the Bridge of Skulls where the 
Free Folk were led by the Weeper

1979
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,440
now with his side and his runny 
eyes. 

1980
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:38,680
So that's when John takes over 
as Master at Arms until he kind 

1981
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:41,680
of hands it off to Iron Emmett 
and then, well, everything's a 

1982
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:42,960
mess now. 
It's all chaos. 

1983
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,520
So who knows what Nights Watch 
officers have what jobs at the 

1984
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,840
moment. 
Also, Andrew Tarth faced Sean 

1985
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:51,760
many times at Ice and Firecon. 
You wrote here. 

1986
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:56,280
Yeah, there's a, a regular at 
Ice and Firecon, a friend of 

1987
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,480
ours, acquaintance who went by 
that name as well. 

1988
01:47:58,480 --> 01:48:01,640
And they had turtle melees at 
Ice and Firecon where people 

1989
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:05,640
would fight with foam swords. 
And yes, Sean and Andrew 

1990
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:07,480
definitely crossed swords a few 
times. 

1991
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:11,560
Also in the faceless man game 
they were real real mortal 

1992
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,560
enemies because they fought each
other in attorney and in the 

1993
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:16,680
faceless man game Andrew killed 
him. 

1994
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:20,440
I'd say Andrew got the best of 
Sean most times I think. 

1995
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:22,000
OK. 
Sorry, Sean. 

1996
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:28,800
Now Brienne, obviously this is 
not going to be a pretty 

1997
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:31,840
comprehensive breakdown of 
Brienne in her life. 

1998
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,480
That's at least a 2 episode 
thing. 

1999
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:38,600
We did 2 episodes on Baylor 
break Spear, 3 on Baylor the 

2000
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,600
Blessed. 
So Brienne, yeah, she's a, 

2001
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,640
there's a way more to say about 
her, in addition to her brother 

2002
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,240
Galadon, who died, you know, 
very young. 

2003
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:51,240
He drowned, which, by the way, 
that's an ending that is 

2004
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:55,840
unfortunately more likely in a 
culture that does a lot of 

2005
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,080
sailing and swimming than in, 
say, someone who lives in the 

2006
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,680
veil, you know? 
But he, she also had two 

2007
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,640
sisters, an Aryan and an Alison.
They both died in the cradle as 

2008
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:07,200
well. 
The name Alison, of course, it's

2009
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:10,800
another, like, note of goodness.
You know, you're naming the 

2010
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,320
person who was perhaps the best 
queen of all time. 

2011
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,640
You invoke that name and it just
makes you think positively. 

2012
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:18,920
I'd like to. 
So I'd like to explore Brienne 

2013
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:25,240
in terms of how she relates to 
Tarte, how she expresses the the

2014
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:30,680
vibe of House Tarth, and how the
island itself represents a lot 

2015
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:32,680
of what she's become or what she
is. 

2016
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:37,880
Here is a quote. 
Sir Colin Catlin said to her 

2017
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:41,000
escort. 
Who is this man and why do they 

2018
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:44,280
mislike him so? 
Sir Colin frowned. 

2019
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:48,320
Because he is no man, my lady. 
That's Brienne of Tarth, 

2020
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:50,680
daughter to Lord Selwyn the even
*. 

2021
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:55,480
Daughter Catlin was horrified. 
Horrified. 

2022
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:58,520
I brought this up earlier, but 
what the heck, Cat? 

2023
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:00,680
It's not that telling about her,
though. 

2024
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:02,240
It's really just about the way 
she was raised. 

2025
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:04,280
Like the idea is so foreign to 
her. 

2026
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:07,280
She's like, what? 
It goes against everything she 

2027
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,040
was raised, everything she was 
taught. 

2028
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:10,800
Like, it's a very patriarchal 
culture. 

2029
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,840
Also, obviously, that does not 
permit women to fight for the 

2030
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,000
most part. 
And not only is she doing it, 

2031
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,600
she's doing it really, really 
well. 

2032
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:23,560
So she's not the only one, 
Catelyn who's like, I can't 

2033
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,320
believe what I'm seeing. 
This is something I've been told

2034
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:30,040
all my life isn't even possible,
yet here it is happening before 

2035
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:34,320
my very eyes. 
So it is just a function of what

2036
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,240
they've been taught and taught 
over and over and ingrained, and

2037
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:38,520
it's been that way for 
centuries. 

2038
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,400
So the other side of that is the
influence of Tarth. 

2039
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,480
Tarth as a island culture a 
little separate from everything 

2040
01:50:44,480 --> 01:50:47,320
else, a little more insular, a 
little more closed off. 

2041
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,600
There'd be less corruption of 
the value systems, more 

2042
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:55,840
idealism, more the nightly 
virtues seen as they were 

2043
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:59,560
intended, rather than a 
corrupted version that's been 

2044
01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:04,920
played out on the mainland for 
so long, compromised by politics

2045
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:06,880
and intrigue and other 
considerations. 

2046
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:10,920
There's just less of that in the
closed off world of Tarth. 

2047
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:16,200
So that really supports Brienne 
being someone who is so into 

2048
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:19,080
these values, but also a little 
naive to the way the rest of the

2049
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:22,240
world works 'cause she is. 
While she sticks to these 

2050
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,360
values, even as she discovers 
the rest of the world isn't like

2051
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,120
that. 
She didn't know the world was 

2052
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:31,440
like that. 
She arrives in Westeros mainland

2053
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:37,320
not having learned these things.
Even though she knows that women

2054
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,080
aren't Knights that she knows 
well, she knows that she's an 

2055
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,920
exception, a major exception. 
her Master at arms have trained 

2056
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:47,600
her, pointed this out. 
He taught her to fight in ways 

2057
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:54,080
that are geared to who she is. 
He taught her to fight with 

2058
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:58,200
discipline and to play the long 
game, she said. 

2059
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:03,760
He said, look, men are going to 
want to beat you quickly because

2060
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:09,280
otherwise they will feel that 
their pride is been touched in a

2061
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:12,680
negative way because you're not 
supposed to be sorely tested by 

2062
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:15,360
a woman in combat. 
Oh, that's unthinkable. 

2063
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,120
If you don't beat that woman 
quickly, then it's says 

2064
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,480
something bad about you. 
Well, we know that's not true 

2065
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:22,720
because Brienne's an amazing 
swords person. 

2066
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:26,960
So that's a incorrect line of 
thinking, but it's a very 

2067
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:30,080
ingrained line of thinking. 
So Brienne has that advantage, 

2068
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,280
and we see her do that to Jamie 
just straight up. 

2069
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:33,920
That's the strategy she uses 
against him, and it works 

2070
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:38,720
perfectly. 
So Tarth sets a lot of us up 

2071
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:42,000
like she is raised in a place 
where their most important 

2072
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:46,360
legend is the perfect knight. 
She becomes that without the 

2073
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:50,600
awareness of how that's not 
really a thing anywhere else. 

2074
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:52,680
She might have believed that 
there's other people in the 

2075
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:56,560
world that are just as dedicated
to these ideals as she is. 

2076
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,440
She probably doesn't. 
She probably didn't realize how 

2077
01:52:58,440 --> 01:53:01,480
unique she was in that regard. 
The only thing she thought she 

2078
01:53:01,480 --> 01:53:04,440
was unique in it was being a 
woman with these abilities. 

2079
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:07,560
It wasn't her values that she 
expected to have these 

2080
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:10,520
differences with people. 
That was as much as a surprise 

2081
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:12,600
as anything, if not the bigger 
surprise. 

2082
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:14,800
She was expecting more noble 
behavior. 

2083
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,440
She was caught off guard by the 
cruel prank. 

2084
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,200
She didn't see it coming. 
She was too naive to even 

2085
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:23,800
suspect it. 
But woman who lived amongst 

2086
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:25,880
those people all her life would 
have seen it coming. 

2087
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:27,800
They would. 
She'd be wary, they would have. 

2088
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:30,160
She would have experienced with 
these kinds of things. 

2089
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:33,200
She would have seen them done to
other people, if not herself. 

2090
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,080
So this is something that 
someone in the mainland would 

2091
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,840
have learned at a younger age, 
even though Brianna isn't 

2092
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,440
exactly old. 
These aren't things that you 

2093
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:43,680
learn later in life. 
These are things you learn as a 

2094
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,160
kid. 
That's when picking on and 

2095
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:46,720
teasing. 
That stuff happens early. 

2096
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,920
And Brienne certainly had some 
of that, but not this kind, 

2097
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,360
right? 
We know she got teased and poked

2098
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:59,280
fun at and all that, but it 
sounds like it was not as bad on

2099
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,480
Tarth. 
Like they didn't do that as much

2100
01:54:01,480 --> 01:54:04,960
partly out of respect for her 
house in part, but also because 

2101
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,280
they probably just aren't like 
that as much. 

2102
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:09,920
They aren't as vicious, they 
aren't as cruel in their mockery

2103
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:13,760
of of these things. 
Because it's important to be a 

2104
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,680
true night, a perfect night. 
And since Brienne has a lot of 

2105
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,920
his qualities, well, that's not 
something to mock, despite so 

2106
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:25,400
many trope inversions. 
Yeah, like Brienne is of perhaps

2107
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:30,600
the best example of trope 
inversions in the single 

2108
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:33,720
character in a world that's full
of trope inversions. 

2109
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:38,440
But the trope inversions are not
about the perfect knighthood. 

2110
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,840
The inversion is that she is the
perfect knight without being a 

2111
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:43,720
knight. 
It's not that her beliefs are 

2112
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,520
inverted or anything like that. 
Especially the Arthurian 

2113
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:47,880
influence. 
These things are very much in 

2114
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:51,400
line with that and things that 
are inverted are parts about 

2115
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:56,840
her, like specifically what she 
her skill set, how people react 

2116
01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:01,960
to her, their expectations, 
being both reader and in world, 

2117
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:05,120
people being inverted and and 
having a having a lot of 

2118
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:11,160
surprises there. 
So Jamie coming back to him, 

2119
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:15,680
he's the only the only person he
ever told about Aries is 

2120
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:17,560
Brienne. 
He didn't tell Cersei. 

2121
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,680
He didn't tell Tyrion, and 
that's because of this purity, 

2122
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:25,280
because he actually wants to be 
respected by her because, again,

2123
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:29,120
she's what he wanted to be. 
He won't admit it to himself, 

2124
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,960
but it's it's there. 
He wanted to be Arthur Dayne, 

2125
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:35,960
and she is upholding that 
standard, if not more so. 

2126
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,320
So, yeah. 
So that's why he told her. 

2127
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,720
Of all the people he, he, he, he
revealed this to, it was her 

2128
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:46,960
because he cares. 
He cares that she looks down on 

2129
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,040
him. 
Her opinion matters because 

2130
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:53,240
she's the ideal. 
She's what he wanted to be, so 

2131
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:56,040
her opinion matters. 
He can't get around that as much

2132
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:57,760
as he wants to. 
Not because when she wants to 

2133
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,760
mock it, he can't get around it.
It's what he always wanted to 

2134
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:01,680
be. 
She is that. 

2135
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:02,720
He can't. 
He can't. 

2136
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:06,080
He has to face that. 
And he slowly does over the 

2137
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:07,760
course of his arc, even while 
she's gone. 

2138
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:12,040
A a phrase that is applied to 
Jon Snow would really fit to 

2139
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:13,880
Brienne in a lot of things. 
Like you could say you know 

2140
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,400
nothing. 
Brienne of Tarth, because she is

2141
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,080
naive and she's had to learn a 
lot of these things and she's 

2142
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,800
less naive than she was and she 
knows a lot of things that other

2143
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,360
people don't. 
She's smarter in other ways too,

2144
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:28,440
but she's pretty naive about how
bad and cruel and evil men could

2145
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:30,280
be until till she learned that 
first hand. 

2146
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,600
It would be having Jamie. 
If Jamie had said that to her, 

2147
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:35,120
it would have been fitting. 
And you know nothing. 

2148
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:37,880
Reggie says similar things, like
are you thick as a castle wall? 

2149
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:41,440
Which of course, is a nod to her
ancestry with Duncan. 

2150
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:45,520
That was Sir Duncan. 
But a Grit was a much more 

2151
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:49,200
worldly person than John. 
That's why she could say that to

2152
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:52,280
him, because she's got a lot 
better idea how the world works,

2153
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:54,160
even though she's on the wrong 
side of the wall. 

2154
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:56,240
From where John learned 
everything. 

2155
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:58,320
Because John was raised in a 
castle. 

2156
01:56:58,320 --> 01:56:59,760
He was raised in a bit of a 
bubble. 

2157
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,720
Even though he's a bastard, even
though there's all these other 

2158
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:04,360
things. 
Yeah, He doesn't know how common

2159
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,440
folk live. 
He doesn't know all these other 

2160
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:08,720
things, especially doesn't know 
common free folk live. 

2161
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:10,360
So. 
And Brienne is the same. 

2162
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,880
She's learning these things as 
her arc goes through. 

2163
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:17,560
You may have noticed, partly 
because I pointed it out a few 

2164
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:21,160
different times, that there's 
just no bad stories about Tarth.

2165
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:22,880
Where's the villainy? 
Where's the dishonor? 

2166
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:25,200
We don't have those tales. 
There surely got to be some, 

2167
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:27,840
because George just doesn't 
write things in fat black and 

2168
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:30,280
white. 
But he definitely made this as 

2169
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:33,080
light Gray as he could. 
This is maybe like House 

2170
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:35,400
Blackwood without the 
counterpart house. 

2171
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,960
That's, you know, the Brackens 
who were written often as 

2172
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:40,120
villains. 
There's no, you know, anti tar 

2173
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:42,040
fear. 
There's no Darth Tarth. 

2174
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:48,520
Darth Tarth Yeah. 
So they're just things that make

2175
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:52,280
them look good and things that 
are neutral and no things that 

2176
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:55,880
make them look bad. 
And the beyond Brienne and the 

2177
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:59,240
other quality humans of Tarth 
there, it has these, it has 

2178
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,920
enough unique qualities to be 
rich for storytelling. 

2179
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,120
It's things that haven't 
happened yet. 

2180
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:07,320
Certainly George seems to have 
planned for a Dunkin Egg story 

2181
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:10,360
to take place there, you know, 
in the long run, which means he 

2182
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:13,360
already may have some ideas for,
you know, what Tarth is going to

2183
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:14,880
be like or some of the 
characters that would be in that

2184
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:16,840
story. 
What's the maybe some Tarth 

2185
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:19,200
commoners or maybe some other 
Tarth lordlings, See what that's

2186
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,000
like. 
Maybe just to show the 

2187
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,520
difference between the 
mainlanders and them. 

2188
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,440
Fun stuff like that. 
Local history, things we 

2189
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:30,480
wouldn't get anywhere else. 
Now if this further examples 

2190
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:32,960
from existing influences, some 
some of it would be probably 

2191
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:38,120
Arthurian and Tolkeanesque. 
But the best way we might learn 

2192
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,440
more is through Brienne's 
memories. 

2193
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:45,720
She's experienced Tarth for 
what, 18 years as her only place

2194
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:47,480
That she's, you know, the one 
place she lived. 

2195
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:51,200
She hasn't thought about it a 
whole lot, but she has thought 

2196
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:54,320
about it going back and how she 
would, you know, if she wasn't 

2197
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:59,920
in this oath, she would go home.
And, well, what happens when she

2198
01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:02,320
learns that the Golden Company 
has taken Tarth? 

2199
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:05,240
Her family is held hostage. 
That was, does that change her 

2200
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:08,320
mind about anything? 
It's kind of ironic that the 

2201
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:12,600
person she's serving is Catelyn,
whose house is family, duty, 

2202
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,720
honor, family first. 
I don't know if Brianna will see

2203
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:17,600
it that way, but that's 
something to consider. 

2204
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:20,320
Brienne may say her oath comes 
first, but she has an oath to 

2205
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:22,560
her family too, doesn't she? 
Maybe not something she just 

2206
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,800
stated outwardly like that, but 
it's certainly implied. 

2207
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,120
I mean that's it's Westeros and 
I don't think Brienne needs to 

2208
01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:30,440
be told that. 
I don't know that her ark is 

2209
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,960
going to take her to the Tars to
fight the Golden Company, but I 

2210
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,720
do think it will cause some 
conflict and make her think 

2211
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:38,560
about it. 
And she's like, well, am I 

2212
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:41,680
really going to find Sansa 
Oraria? 

2213
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:44,400
Should I really keep doing this 
when my family's threatened? 

2214
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,520
Like, I know that's happening. 
I may not be able to ever find 

2215
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:49,320
Sansa Oraria. 
They might not even be alive. 

2216
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:53,880
So shouldn't I maybe go do this?
And that would be a reason for 

2217
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:56,280
her to think about Tart. 
The things that she would go 

2218
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:58,360
there, the things that she would
be saving, the things she would 

2219
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,960
be preserving, the people she 
would be protecting, more about 

2220
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:05,560
her father at the very least, so
that it would be a good way to. 

2221
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:07,200
Add even more conflict to her 
story. 

2222
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:09,000
Not that she doesn't have 
enough, not that she's not in a 

2223
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:13,640
really bad spot right now. 
I think the Sapphire Isle will 

2224
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:17,480
play a more prominent role in 
her thoughts going forward, if 

2225
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,200
not only because she just hasn't
thought about it very much yet, 

2226
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:22,880
but because there's a good 
reasons to. 

2227
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:24,520
Because it's threatened right 
now. 

2228
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,040
There's things happening there 
that she would want to think 

2229
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:28,160
about. 
It makes sense. 

2230
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:31,720
And of course with her, if she 
ever learns anything about 

2231
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:37,120
Duncan Egg or if Duncan Egg the 
story or even the TV shows have 

2232
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:40,880
reasons to bring up Tarth to, to
maybe highlight or give nods to 

2233
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:44,240
the ancestral connection or 
just, and through that we may 

2234
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:47,520
get more about the island, the 
people, the noble house, past 

2235
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:50,000
president. 
Future trivia answer. 

2236
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,320
Which Targaryen Prince was 
killed on Tarth? 

2237
02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:56,160
Prince Amon. 
The Prince Amon who was heir to 

2238
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:59,040
the throne, Princess Daia 
certainly died there as well. 

2239
02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:01,400
Most likely, but probably 
natural causes. 

2240
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:04,840
I said killed very specifically 
because yeah, she probably lived

2241
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:06,760
her whole life there and died, 
but she probably wasn't killed 

2242
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:09,280
and she also wasn't a Prince, 
she's a Princess. 

2243
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:12,640
But still worth mentioning. 
Poll results. 

2244
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:14,760
Y'all had a pretty strong 
opinion here. 

2245
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:17,160
Will Brianne inherit even fall 
hall? 

2246
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:19,560
Will she join the Kingsguard or 
join a Kingsguard? 

2247
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:22,880
Not the Kingsguard, but you know
the OR a Kingsguard. 

2248
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:29,000
Will she die or will it be some 
other only 7% said other, 13% 

2249
02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:35,280
said die, 17% said inherit and 
63% say Kingsguard or something 

2250
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:39,080
like a Kingsguard or a some sort
of order that you don't inherit 

2251
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:42,080
things when you're in it. 
If she doesn't inherit, by the 

2252
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:44,440
way, that would mean some cousin
or uncle would inherit. 

2253
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:48,440
That seems like there's probably
someone like that out there. 

2254
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:50,440
I mean, it's probably not a tiny
family. 

2255
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:52,280
If it was, that would be 
something else for her to think 

2256
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:54,640
about like, well, I need to go 
home because I'm the only 

2257
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:56,920
there's no one else to inherit 
the house like others. 

2258
02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,920
Very I'm I'm the one I'm the one
left that probably would have 

2259
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:03,480
come up by now. 
But hey, you know, George could,

2260
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:06,440
could pivot that direction and 
hear, Hey, my uncle and my 

2261
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:08,440
cousins were killed by the 
golden Company. 

2262
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:11,080
I'd like who else would inherit 
Now, you know, something like 

2263
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:13,960
that. 
I mentioned quite a few episodes

2264
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:15,920
in this one, or at least hinted 
at them. 

2265
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:19,040
My didn't necessarily call them 
by name, but let's do so now. 

2266
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:22,840
We have a, a, a series called 
Under the Dragons and where 

2267
02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:25,520
there's a variety of houses we 
look at and what there were, 

2268
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:28,880
what their life was like, what 
their history was like after the

2269
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:32,880
House Targaryen took over. 
We have a full set of episodes 

2270
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:35,760
on the Hedge Night, the Sworn 
Sword and the Mystery Night, and

2271
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:39,040
which of course has some talk of
Brienne here and there and 

2272
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:42,120
certainly obviously is very 
focused on on Sir Duncan. 

2273
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,800
We have an episode on the Golden
Company as part of our Black 

2274
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:46,400
Fire series. 
And we certainly talked about 

2275
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:49,440
the Golden Company a bit today. 
And we certainly are curious how

2276
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:51,120
that's going to play out because
the Golden Company, well, 

2277
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:54,240
they're on Tarth right now and 
that that whole, they're all 

2278
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:57,880
wrapped up in the whole Young 
Griff, Aegon, the 6th plot line.

2279
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:01,240
Who knows how that'll go. 
At least Jon Connington is not 

2280
02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:02,600
there. 
So they probably won't get have 

2281
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:05,400
a grayscale epidemic on Tarth. 
That that may be one thing that 

2282
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:07,280
they don't have to worry about 
as much. 

2283
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,040
That's another nice thing about 
island life is the diseases 

2284
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:13,840
don't necessarily spread. 
It's easier to maybe cut 

2285
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:16,000
yourself off from the rest of 
the world and and avoid such 

2286
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:19,040
things. 
Also, we have our episodes on 

2287
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:21,560
Bay Lord the Blessed and we have
an episode of The Death of 

2288
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:23,400
Makar. 
That's an important one. 

2289
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:27,920
Forgiven Things we talked about 
in terms of the timeline of Dunk

2290
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:31,720
and House Tarth that would have 
happened during Makar's reign. 

2291
02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:36,280
And then we have Fire and Blood,
our series on Fire and Blood, 

2292
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:39,240
which has a lot about Jaharis 
the first, who we talked about a

2293
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:44,240
bit in this episode, and about 
the conquest where there were 

2294
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:47,760
those marriages and things like 
that, and the invasion of Dorn 

2295
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:51,280
by the Stormlands. 
Lots of options for you folks. 

2296
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:56,160
This is our first episode 
recorded in 2026. 

2297
02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,560
We are very excited for the year
and very excited for you all to 

2298
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:03,880
go through it with us. 
It should be a noteworthy year, 

2299
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:06,920
more so than most others. 
Maybe we'll get lucky and 

2300
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:10,560
they'll be an even better reason
to celebrate 2026 in terms of A 

2301
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:12,400
Song of Ice and Fire, but I'm 
not going to jinx it by saying 

2302
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:13,920
what I mean. 
You know what I mean. 

2303
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,480
Thanks to Nina for her great 
takes, and make sure to check 

2304
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:21,840
out good queenalley.tumblr.com. 
Thanks to Joey Townsend for our 

2305
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:24,040
music. 
Thanks to Michael Klarfeld for 

2306
02:04:24,040 --> 02:04:26,560
our video intro. 
And for the maps you see behind 

2307
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:33,040
me, Get them at KLARADO x.de. 
That's claredox.de. 

2308
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:38,240
On behalf of Ashea, I'm Aziz. 
We'll see you next time you know

2309
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:41,800
what to do. 
In the meantime, Valar reread 

2310
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:42,240
us.