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For those of us who have already
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very memorable. 
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it's not the big moments, but 
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And that's a big thing. 
And we've got a lot of emotion 

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wrapped up in this. 
Some of us read this novel, you 

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know, 20 years plus ago and and 
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have read it a long time ago to 
have that feeling of I sure hope

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this is good. 
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well, it's a mixture of of great
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relief. 
But God, they got it right. 

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Many of us love Duncan Egg. 
You know, long before the notion

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of ATV show, even the first TV 
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And we loved Baylor breaks beer 
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He's one of the characters 
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obvious reasons. 
We'd be pretty upset or at least

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annoyed or something if they got
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And one of the joys of knowing 
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to vicariously live through your
friends and family who haven't 

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seen it. 
And that's been a lot of fun. 

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We knew it would be, but it's 
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There's been more of it. 
The the internet's exploded. 

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If you'd told me that Baylor 
breaks beer would be Internet 

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famous and getting memed all the
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we knew he deserved it, but did 
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people? 
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It's really amazing to see this 
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He's he's pretty obscure when 
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I mean, not anymore. 
He's not obscure anymore, y'all?

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He was obscure. 
So, yeah, a few weeks ago he was

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Like, yeah, just like I kind of 
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So he's a real one. 
He's an exception to Raymond's 

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rant. 
A person of incredible privilege

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and power who put himself at 
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People loved the egg reveal, but
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With Baylor, it was a whoa, holy
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You know, maybe you liked how he
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such a change. 
It's a sudden flood of love for 

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this character. 
The the final line of the 

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episode. 
And it became one of the highest

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Oh, and of course there were 
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this one y'all. 
So we'll be discussing all that 

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more on this episode of History 
of Westeros Podcast. 

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Hello and welcome everybody. 
We are back at our usual time to

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talk the episode, even though 
the episode itself came out a 

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bit early. 
Thanks to the Superb owl. 

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That's right, Dragons, hedge 
nights and all in between. 

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Bow to the Superb Owl. 
You can catch our review 

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episodes at this time and our 
preview episodes on most 

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Fridays. 
We didn't have one last Friday 

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because of that schedule change,
but we are back on this Friday 

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at 5:30 Eastern to discuss what 
we expect in In the Name of the 

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Mother, which is the name of 
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This one, of course, is called 
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And of course, right after the 
preview episode, we'll be doing 

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my game stream, continuing the 
adventures of Duncan egg on in 

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game format. 
Sean, I guess I was about to say

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we've got a, a fourth person 
with us, but your, your Kitty 

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has vanished since we started. 
How you doing and what you got 

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to drink? 
There, I'm doing well, and by 

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the way, Tough is still just 
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She'll probably. 
I laugh again. 

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I have sparkling ice black 
cherry mixed with the Naked 

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green drink mixed with Magic 
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Delicious as always. 
It's like, can I do a? 

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It's like Duncan. 
Yeah, you can real quick. 

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It's like Duncan Egg, you know, 
Who knows what tomorrow will 

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bring? 
Well, who knows what weird drink

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you'll make next? 
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I just want to give a quick 
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I ran into a listener in the 
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Harley, if you're out there 
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Nice, thanks. 
For tuning in, I was in a Magic 

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tournament and wearing my 
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Speaking of shirts, I have the 
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on here, which y'all can 
purchase through our threadless 

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The link's in the description. 

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It's made-up like a tour shirt, 
a Shaya designed it and it's got

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all the different stops for 
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Now you can get it 2 sided or 
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purposes. 
I have the one sided version but

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you can get A2 sided version as 
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Can I make another quick point? 
Your intro about the idea that, 

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you know, kind of knowing it 
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but still exciting to see it and
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And it, it seems generally my 
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viewership is that people are 
surprised that maybe some people

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had an idea that something was 
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really we're we're still. 
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that I knew when I read the 
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I think I had been spoiled, you 
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in a fandom that I knew. 
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me, but still, that first time 
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all the clues along the way. 
Just like, oh, there's the 

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reveal. 
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times after the fact and 
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an example of a couple things. 
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good for someone who didn't 
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clues that were there along the 
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of how well written it was. 
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give the clues but bury them in 
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it. 
But it absolutely set up and not

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something they randomly decided 
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If something's really great, it 
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this, we're still excited to see
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Kind of like a great comedy. 
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Ghostbusters of Super Troopers 
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surprise, but even when you know
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to see it again, you know? 
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being truly well written and 
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joining Dunk is also something 
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look ahead. 
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chivalrous guy, this short one 
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That's good writing. 

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He wasn't on the dais either, 
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He Oh yeah, right, right. 
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We mean a Shay of that. 
It has appeared on X-ray vision 

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podcast. 
That's Jason Concepcione and his

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partner Rosie. 
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discuss a lot of pop culture and
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It's exciting to talk Hedge 
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Kings with them. 
So check that episode out. 

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That was full spoilers and it a 
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prophecy that that Duncan egg 
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topics as well. 
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all's takes or stories or 
anecdotes from how your family 

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reacted to egg to Baylor and 
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that's going to go. 
We'll be curious for that as 

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And more and more of a how sad 

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were they kind of way. 
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And also, I wanted to say just 
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whole thing, but I did realize 
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I was talking about it last 
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The rejoice, everyone rejoicing.
Egg's death. 

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Whenever a king dies, there's a 
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live the king. 
I think that's the answer, that 

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the egg isn't going to take it 
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I still like the idea that it'll
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type thing, but I think that's 
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rejoicing his death, you know? 
I think that sounds like a lot 

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of cope for the fact that Egg is
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adulthood, but. 
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possibility also, yeah. 
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Would King Darren, had he been 
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consensus is here. 
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So the episode's called 7. 
It's pretty straightforward in a

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lot of ways. 
What that means, it certainly 

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They both have to actually get 
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It's a religious ceremony. 
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Valyrian descended person who's 
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values. 
It's Yep, that's that's Aryan 

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for you. 
So let's talk about our favorite

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We'll start with you and then 
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scenes or moments after that. 
So, Sean, go ahead. 

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I think if I'm pressed I I want 
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I think that the his sadness and
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use recoiling at dunks 
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done. 
You really felt for him and it's

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So I won't go on too much about 
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more about my favorite scene. 
But also I want to say this. 

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Stefan did a good job too. 
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like a oh, you're frustrated and
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do a good job to evoke that 
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I I think he gets a little 
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part was, you know? 
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You're right. 

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He just kind of like, yeah, I 

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But yeah, what about you? 

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I will say I knew what would 
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kind of like a streaking. 
We wanted to to believe him. 

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So I do think he did a great 
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My favorite performance has just
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This was I think, Peter 
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You saw him in his in his rage 
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You see him, you know, gaining 
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a grand speech. 
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Peter Claffey did a great job 
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Unsurprisingly, I picked Baylor.
I guess this is the second time 

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I've picked Baylor, so good job 
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brilliant. 
They've nailed the difficulty 

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and the conflict within the 
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him so much. 
That's that's that right there. 

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Says it all. 
People really care about this 

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character. 
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Well, let's go on. 
Favorite scene or moment? 

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Sean, which was yours? 
Real quick, I'm going to follow 

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up with your, your comment about
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I, I one thing I don't think the
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book. 
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it's just my reading and my time
to sit in it, but I feel like it

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was a bigger moment. 
The idea that Baylor is such a 

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great champion isn't quite 
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His prowess as a warrior isn't 
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I think. 
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it's a particular crew because 
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them. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like, it's a big get for him to 
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But we'll probably talk more 
about that later. 

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My favorite scene was just the 
very opening scene that the 

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whole opening scene I thought 
was great. 

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I like I said I I loved eggs 
performance there, but 

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specifically just that very 
opening moment of dunk just 

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sitting there alone. 
I I like pensive moments like 

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this where we are both given a 
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character is thinking and going 
through and maybe how we would 

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feel, what we would do or if we 
were in that moment. 

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I like pensive somber moments 
like this. 

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It gives you a chance to to sit 
and consider with it. 

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Also, I want to point out, I 
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the the opening shot, it looked 
kind of like the sky. 

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It kind of looked like the sky 
and star more. 

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Than kind of shot. 
They definitely shot the stars 

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and then merged it. 
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that. 
I, I think it was very 

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deliberate because Dunk has 
spent most of his, his nights 

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outside under the stars when he 
looks up at the ceiling, like 

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it's kind of like when you've 
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you're, you're going to see that
pattern in it. 

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And so I think that that was 
that. 

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And I think it was very 
beautiful and why it's my 

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favorite scene as well. 
Oh, there you go. 

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Yeah. 
And it's kind of like adding to 

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what you're saying to say. 
And combined with what I was 

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saying is it gives you a chance 
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thinking about. 
You feel a little more in his 

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shoes, like is, is he still sort
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prison because he has his honor 
and his integrity and he knows 

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he was right? 
Or is it extra sad and ironic 

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that he's in prison even though 
he should be free because he has

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his honor and integrity and did 
what was right? 

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And I don't know. 
I loved it. 

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I thought it was really great. 
So Shay, you said you really 

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loved that scene too. 
So did I, but did you have maybe

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other things to say about that 
one? 

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Or perhaps a a second favorite? 
Yeah, I do. 

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Yes. 
This was my favorite shot in an 

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episode with beautiful shots. 
It was my favorite was just that

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opening sequence. 
But I also liked the acting on 

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display from Dunk and Egg 
together, the tears and eggs 

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eyes, the rage and dunks, the 
way he may be. 

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You know, it's still softens a 
little bit in that already, the 

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dialogue, etcetera. 
I loved all of that. 

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And the other favorite sequence 
I had, favorite scene was 

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Raymond's knighting. 
I liked a few things about it. 

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I liked the implications from 
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I liked the editing in it and 
the film work in the way that it

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transitioned to this very 
cinematic and dreamy sequence. 

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You know, when when Lionel is 
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it's just stunning and kind of a
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And then it's quick, quickly 
interspersed with the amazing 

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shot of dunk on his knees as if 
he were going to be knighted. 

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But he is, of course in his in 
his clothing now, which gives it

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the surreal quality so that you 
know that it's not actually a 

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true flashback, right. 
And then you see one of the best

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faces ever, which is Arlen's, 
you know. 

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I can't help you here kid, I 
never get anything like this. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
He's just shrugging as if I I 

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got nothing for you, man. 
And this happens perfectly 

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timed, kind of as Dunk is is out
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the dubbing of the vows, you 
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And so I thought that was well 
placed as well. 

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I don't know, I thought it was 
really brilliant. 

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We'll talk about it more, but 
comedic moving really made 

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people think a lot and stirred 
up a lot of debate. 

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I know we want to move on, but I
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Shaya. 
This is a great example of how 

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editing can be such a great tool
and storytelling. 

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It's so underestimated, but 
someone had to decide to 

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intersperse this in the timing 
of it and how the music went. 

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It was just outstanding 
filmmaking and my favorite part 

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was the the the look of loving 
acceptance that Arlen had as he 

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was just about to knight beasts 
in this flashback of when that 

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happened. 
Yeah, I love that knighting with

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Raymond's scene. 
Just the fact that they had this

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character that was just 
irreverent about everything, 

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that took something seriously, 
really gave it extra gravitas. 

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Yeah. 
That's a great point, though, 

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Aziz, about Lionel, you know 
that he really did take it 

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seriously. 
The first thing we he took 

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seriously the entire show. 
Yeah, I. 

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Love that. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, even talking about 
fighting the Kingsguard, he 

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wasn't. 
He was like, dirty up there. 

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White wrote dresses or what? 
Yeah. 

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This is the only thing he was 
serious about. 

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I love that. 
Was really cool. 

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So gave it, gave it a little 
extra push there. 

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So of course, I'm picking the 
end scene with Baylor. 

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Not surprising given what else 
I've said. 

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I thought that was really well 
done. 

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Mostly what I liked about it 
wasn't just the framing, the way

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they set it up, which was all 
very good. 

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A Dunk's desperation. 
They didn't try to overdo his 

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entrance as if it was staged, 
because it wasn't. 

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It's not supposed to be like 
he's waiting for his moment. 

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No, it's like he already knew 
Dunk was short a guy and he's 

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getting ready. 
Meanwhile, more drama plays out 

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with who's on whose side and all
that, unbeknownst to him. 

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And so when he comes in, it's 
just focused on him and his 

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expression. 
And his expression is really 

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perfect. 
In the book, Shay and I were 

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talking about this last night, 
he's described as having a sad 

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smile. 
I'm not so sure that's a sad 

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smile. 
He, to me, this is a little more

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guilty, which I think is 
perfect. 

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He's like, I got to be here. 
I got to do this. 

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I it's my, you know, this is the
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can't have a realm where Aryan, 
his behavior is unpunished and 

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the guy who did the right thing 
is punished. 

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I can't have that. 
But also, I got to fight against

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my family, you know, like. 
I think he looks resigned. 

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It's kind of like. 
That's a good point, yeah. 

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Like, he's done what he knows he
has to do, but he still knows 

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there's a drawback to it. 
It's kind of like, do you want 

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to lose $100 or $1000? 
Like, oh, well, I guess I'll 

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lose 100. 
It's hard to be happy about 

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that, but it is the right 
decision, you know? 

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Say resigned. 
That's why when Dunk looks at it

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and says almost sadly, he might 
not be attributing it to the 

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right emotion that he's seeing, 
but I think you could see almost

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sadly as being resigned as well.
Sure. 

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Yeah, Yeah, I think we're pretty
close on that for sure. 

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And Sean, based on what's 
something you just said, I have 

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a thing in the document that 
I'll move up here we can talk 

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about now. 
This is a great example of like 

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what you said about the editing 
is a perfect example of how I 

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think the showrunners like quote
UN quote should approach things.

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The visual medium is so 
different than the book. 

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You have so much else to work 
with like that, like flashbacks,

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like great acting, like just any
kind of visuals, like emotion 

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that's harder to portray on the 
page or great scenes like this. 

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There's a certain things that 
are different. 

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There's just certain things you 
can't do music. 

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I mean, one of the best examples
there is, right? 

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So working within that, that's a
lot. 

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You've got a lot to work with in
terms of that. 

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So why change the story? 
You know, keep the story as is. 

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You got so much else you can 
mess with. 

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And that's the, those are the 
things we're liking the most. 

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I think, you know, they're 
capturing the great parts of the

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story because they're leaving it
intact and making it something 

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that we haven't seen even though
we have seen it, you know. 

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So let's talk about that first 
scene, apology and forgiveness. 

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We'll kind of work our way 
chronologically to the scenes 

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here today because it it just 
works pretty well that way. 

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It's not it flows nicely and we 
can do it that way. 

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So it looks like we talked about
the stars into the jail cell 

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thing, the no open sky and how 
that's kind of a refers to the 

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earlier theme of sleeping 
without a pavilion and getting 

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the good luck. 
Well, he's not getting good luck

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yet and under inside here, but 
things turn. 

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The medium is really nice here 
and and we get reminded of even 

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in dunk in his worst moment 
here, he's still like nice to 

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the rat, you know, like he's 
just like petting the rat and 

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that's just how he's nice to the
horses. 

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Nice, nice. 
And when they come in again, 

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they just do it like the book 
says. 

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The quote is he sat by the tray,
pulled apart the bread with his 

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hands and stuffed some into his 
mouth. 

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He was shoving it into his mouth
in the in the show. 

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It's exactly what they did. 
Y'all mentioned it in the 

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beginning here, Eggs Dexter's 
acting here was fantastic. 

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This is a this is a mode, an 
emotion we haven't seen him in 

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yet. 
It's just it's another piece of 

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his range that we're exposed to 
and it's like, well, this kid 

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just keeps nailing it. 
They didn't. 

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One thing they took out which is
a little interesting is they 

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took out the origin of Egg's 
name from the scene, which is a 

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thing that happens in the book 
version, which means they took 

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out the mention of Amon so. 
Which you'd think they kind of 

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want to do that, you know, you'd
want to make that connective 

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tissue. 
But maybe they're holding back 

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on that for a surprise for some 
people, because it is going to 

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be a surprise for a lot of 
people. 

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That's something that most 
people still don't know other 

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than people who have who have 
read it, like, so everybody here

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knows that, obviously, but a lot
of y'all's families don't know 

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that. 
So one thing I love to hear 

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about the scene is that Dunk, 
despite what trouble he's in, 

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despite who Egg actually is, he 
is not cowed by Egg's rank. 

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He's not intimidated by the fact
that Egg is a Prince. 

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He's still just focused on the 
right and wrong of it and his 

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virtues and values, which is 
just that's Dunk. 

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It's great. 
And AG is right there with him. 

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He can't help. 
He's like, yeah, I, you know, 

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pretty much every excuse AG 
gives, Dunk has an answer for. 

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And then, as usual, Dunk backs 
down after expressing his anger.

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He's like, let's make it a 
teaching moment, you know? 

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But even that's that's different
here, though, right, y'all? 

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Because he's no longer teaching 
what he thinks is an orphan boy.

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Now he's teaching a a a royal. 
But this royal does need 

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parenting. 
I did think that was a neat 

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moment when Egg said he didn't 
think he was doing anything 

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wrong and Duncan's like you did,
that's why you lied. 

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But it's it's interesting to 
think about the idea of doing 

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there's a difference between 
what's morally wrong and what's 

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socially or legally wrong. 
Does that make sense? 

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Like that what Dunk did was just
something that might get him in 

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trouble because the rules of his
family are royalty or whatever. 

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But he wasn't actually wrong. 
I don't I don't see it wasn't 

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immoral. 
He didn't deny anyone or didn't 

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steal anything or hurt anybody 
other than, you know, with a 

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bunch of other factors included 
Dunks ego or something. 

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But. 
But he knew he was doing 

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something that you know. 
He's inappropriate, you know 

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he's doing something 
inappropriate, but not immorally

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wrong. 
Dunk knew he was doing something

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wrong when he punched the 
Prince, right? 

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I, you know, I don't know. 
I think, I mean it's the same as

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00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,320
Dunk knows he's doing something 
wrong by lying, that he's a 

447
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,160
knight, and that's the 
comparison that I I see. 

448
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,640
Here, Yeah, he said. 
Yeah. 

449
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,600
I got you, you said? 
Yeah. 

450
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,800
This is that scene in the in the
book where he thinks about that.

451
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,720
He starts thinking about, you 
know, wanting about the same 

452
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,360
concept, about how he would lie 
about something. 

453
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,320
He's not specific, but it's 
similar here. 

454
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,000
Now, he's a little angrier here 
than he is in the book, but it 

455
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,760
ends up in the same place. 
There's also a little angrier 

456
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,800
with Darren later, but it ends 
up in the same place, too. 

457
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,120
Let's have the book quote 
because it's a little different,

458
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,400
but it gets to the same point 
and I think it's nice. 

459
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,640
He knew what it was like to want
something so badly that you 

460
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,680
would tell a monstrous lie just 
to get near it. 

461
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,200
I thought you were like me, he 
said. 

462
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,560
Might be. 
You are only not the way I 

463
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,800
thought. 
We're both from King's Landing 

464
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,720
still, the boy said hopefully. 
Dunk had to laugh. 

465
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,640
Yeah, you from the top of Egon's
Hill and me from the bottom. 

466
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,200
That's not so far, Sarah. 
So it's a little lightheart, 

467
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,280
more lighthearted in the book 
and, you know, whatever, that's 

468
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,400
fine. 
I think this gives it a little 

469
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,080
more tension. 
That's just what's a choice they

470
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,360
made, and I have no problem with
that. 

471
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,640
In both cases, the scene ends 
when he finds out Baylor's 

472
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,800
waiting. 
We're like, oh, you've got a 

473
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,600
Prince waiting, Mommy, I'm not 
OK, we're going. 

474
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,000
We're going now. 
So any other thoughts on that? 

475
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,720
We can go ahead and talk about 
the scene with Baylor. 

476
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,680
I did think it was interesting 
that Doug was that dunk was a 

477
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:19,240
little bit more oh, frustrated, 
Indignant, maybe with Egg. 

478
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,240
And that continues into Baylor 
too. 

479
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,480
I'll talk about a little bit 
more there, but I think it's 

480
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,240
interesting variation from the 
book. 

481
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,400
I like Egg's little fit. 
Oh yeah, with his. 

482
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,160
Sash, I don't know, I just like 
his his formal fit. 

483
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,440
Pretty similar to the book 
description of what he's 

484
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,840
wearing, minus like it has a big
Targaryen sigil on. 

485
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,880
It's the only the only notable 
difference there in the book it 

486
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,600
does because it doesn't here. 
So Dunk speaks to Baylor and AG 

487
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,880
is there for the first part of 
the scene. 

488
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,440
Also like the book, a 
interesting note that a Shaya 

489
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,000
caught there. 
The book he's reading. 

490
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,040
We were we figured he was 
reading books about laws and 

491
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,080
stuff. 
He is specifically reading about

492
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,760
Magor's Trial of Seven which was
the last one and that included a

493
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,680
Sir Damon Morgan and there was 
also some other mentions of of 

494
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,640
people standing in as champions 
for other types of trials by 

495
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,760
combat. 
Not not necessarily trials of 

496
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,480
seven, but just other examples 
that are in there. 

497
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,720
Yeah, he specifically reads 
about how Sir Giles Morgan 

498
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,400
stands on behalf of a very young
King Jaharis First versus a Sir 

499
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,680
Helt Languard, who was a 
disgraced Kingsguard. 

500
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,280
Magor's Kingsguard. 
Yeah, so he stands on behalf of 

501
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,640
his King Jaharis wants to do it,
but they instead say the 

502
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,400
Kingsguard can fight on behalf 
of the crown. 

503
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,720
And then another example 
involving King Jaharis, which is

504
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,240
Sir Braxton Beesbury, who, you 
know, does dishonor to Jerry's 

505
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,280
daughter Sarah, they, you know, 
so to speak. 

506
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,040
And the King Jerry's does in 
fact fight him. 

507
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,200
He's in his 40s by this time and
he does does fight him. 

508
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,280
The Beast Bears have really had 
a sweet role number of times. 

509
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,440
There's some buzz about them for
sure. 

510
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,760
So the dialogue is pretty 
similar here as well. 

511
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,000
Dunk defends AG immediately. 
There's the, the, the slightly 

512
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,600
cutting remark. 
Don't spill it on him. 

513
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,440
You know, that's, that's both 
that's in the book as well. 

514
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:09,360
And that brings up our awareness
that's we get in the book, it's 

515
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,440
through Dunc's thoughts. 
But here he's already defending 

516
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,320
Egg. 
He knows that Baylor's probably 

517
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,520
going to be tough on him and 
Dunc's like, yeah, he's a good 

518
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000
boy, etcetera, etcetera. 
The same line about and you 

519
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,320
don't have to intend harm to 
'cause it, which we were 

520
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,080
discussing earlier. 
ABS that's true. 

521
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,480
Baylor points that out. 
He also point, but Egg points 

522
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,640
out something interesting that 
Baylor doesn't really respond 

523
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,040
to. 
And it's a good point. 

524
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,800
He couldn't have reached the 
Castle in time, if to do the 

525
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,600
proper thing would have meant 
leaving Tanzell with all her 

526
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,000
fingers broken. 
Like you. 

527
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,600
It means stopping her, stopping 
him later, when the damage is 

528
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,360
already done right and there's 
no way to undo that damage. 

529
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,200
So he focuses instead on Egg, 
pointing out how much he doesn't

530
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,680
like his brother Arian. 
And then Baylor pivots to that 

531
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,720
is, we must except to say we 
must love our brothers. 

532
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,560
So he kind of dodges that. 
And that's a underlying theme of

533
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,720
this scene. 
Undercurrent is that Daylor is 

534
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,640
sort of quietly dodging a few 
things, but Dunk pushes him to 

535
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,360
be what he really is. 
Baylor's like, yeah, I'm the son

536
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:11,280
of a king. 
I'm a man who has been around. 

537
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,000
I've had to compromise. 
I'm a hand of the King. 

538
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,120
Like I I have to deal with these
noble Lords, pure powerful 

539
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,120
people. 
Compromise is so much part of 

540
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,720
his life. 
So that's how he's approaching 

541
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,160
this in the 1st place is like, 
well, there should have been 

542
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,080
some compromise here, no 
strictness. 

543
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,800
But Dunk is Nope, Nope, Nope. 
The we took the same oath and 

544
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,520
Baylor just can't argue against 
that. 

545
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,840
He's like, damn, Dunk is right. 
So all these things he's trying 

546
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,320
not to talk about, Dunk just 
keeps pushing him on all the 

547
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,280
right pushes the buttons just 
right. 

548
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,960
And Baylor just he's moved just 
like so many other people are 

549
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,040
moved by Dunk's sincerity. 
But in this case, it's so much 

550
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,640
more important that it happened 
because so much more is at 

551
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,960
stake. 
It's not just, you know, if 

552
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,560
somebody's speaking nicer to you
because they realize you're not 

553
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,080
trying to, you know, RIP them 
off like steely pey or something

554
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,000
like that. 
This is another level. 

555
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,360
So a couple of things, you know,
Baylor was sort of dodging the 

556
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:01,640
the Aryan issue too, when he was
like the Sept and say we're 

557
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,760
supposed to love her brothers. 
Like the between the lines here 

558
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,200
is like, even though he doesn't 
deserve it, you know? 

559
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,960
There are a lot in there 
somewhere. 

560
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,760
Come on. 
Yeah, like. 

561
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,920
It's also a neat thought that I 
had that Baylor probably hasn't 

562
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,040
had that much interaction with 
eggs. 

563
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,360
He's a little frustrated with 
the egg and says don't spill the

564
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:24,000
drink. 
Probably every time egg comes on

565
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,240
to Baylor's radar, it's some 
kind of trouble. 

566
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,720
That makes sense. 
Like Baylor doesn't necessarily 

567
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,680
really know egg or that he's a 
good or a smart kid or whatever.

568
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,080
He just knows it. 
Him and Aryan got in another 

569
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,360
fight. 
What's this about the cat? 

570
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:40,080
Like he I could just see Baylor 
when he's worried about like 

571
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,960
taxes and organizing events and 
meetings with nobles and all of 

572
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,280
a sudden he's got to deal with 
egg again. 

573
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,400
Or what is it with this little 
kid? 

574
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,000
I can see him and hear once 
again, I don't know, this little

575
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,800
kid causing trouble. 
I could see on some level Baylor

576
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,720
being frustrated with him. 
All the more important for Dunk 

577
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,400
to stick up. 
I guess I will say, though, here

578
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,400
at a big difference in this 
scene from the books that I I 

579
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,960
don't know, I can't decide what 
I think about it. 

580
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,760
Is it dunk is a little bit more 
indignant and and I don't know 

581
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,680
what to say aggressive lawyerly 
versus Baylor here that in the 

582
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,480
books, he was a little bit his 
thoughts were a little bit more.

583
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,840
He's a simple guy just trying to
do the right thing. 

584
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,520
Whereas here it's and and he and
and that's kind of like his 

585
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,680
demeanor and his thought and his
attitude and everything like, 

586
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,560
oh, I thought I was just 
protecting a weak person. 

587
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,600
But here is more like, he's 
making his case against Baylor, 

588
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,280
like, we took the same oath. 
He's like arguing with logic, 

589
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,600
not baffled that he's in 
trouble. 

590
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,400
Does that make sense? 
And here he's baffled he's in 

591
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,640
trouble and trying to prove why 
he shouldn't be in a book. 

592
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,040
He's like, oh, well, I guess I 
messed up. 

593
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,640
He's a little bit more resigned 
to his fate, you know? 

594
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,960
That's true. 
He is more, yeah, I agree with 

595
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,160
that. 
He is more resigned to his fate.

596
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,720
He doesn't quite push as much or
or as aggressively. 

597
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,440
I would say I think Baylor is 
probably on edge when it comes 

598
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,560
to egg a little bit. 
He knows how Aryan has turned 

599
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,840
out. 
He knows that Deron is kind of a

600
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,520
drunkard and a mess, right. 
He there's not a good standard 

601
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,840
for these sons. 
Yeah, of these of Makar. 

602
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,880
So I would say he's more like 
pushing back against like a 

603
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,960
violent tendency and a little 
boy and saying like, no, you, 

604
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,360
you can't want that. 
You can't want that. 

605
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,800
And, and he is making a 
religious argument for it. 

606
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,960
But I think he's kind of testing
him a little bit to see like, is

607
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,560
he full of poison and hatred in 
his heart or, you know, you know

608
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,960
what I mean? 
So I, I, I think the jury's out 

609
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,480
for him. 
Now, Baylor is no Jaime 

610
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520
Lannister, but there is a 
similarity here in how he 

611
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,360
responded to Brienne versus how 
Baylor responds to Dunk. 

612
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,720
It's very similar in that they 
are amazed and charmed by the 

613
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,640
sincerity of this person and how
actually, well, actually, you're

614
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,880
actually right, really serious 
about this, aren't you? 

615
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,920
Like they repeatedly tested and 
repeatedly they're like, no, 

616
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,360
this person really is living up 
to true night vows. 

617
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,280
The oath they take really 
seriously. 

618
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,240
It's such a rare thing. 
You don't expect it. 

619
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,320
Just like how Dunk was going 
around, people put up their 

620
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,360
guard against him. 
They expect him to try to pull 

621
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,800
something or that he's got an 
agenda, and then they realize he

622
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,880
doesn't and they're like, wow, 
this guy's actually sincere. 

623
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,280
What a rare thing. 
And Baylor has been trying to 

624
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,760
help Dunk all along for that. 
He's been trying to guide him 

625
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,280
and do what he can, but he's 
feels constrained. 

626
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,760
He'd, like I said, he's 
compromised. 

627
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,640
He's compromising. 
In fact, that's a good way to 

628
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,440
put it. 
He has been compromised by his 

629
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,520
position. 
And the fact that he has to deal

630
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,920
with so many people with powers 
caused him to compromise so 

631
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,280
often that he maybe lost sight 
of what Dunk says. 

632
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,800
The the oath is the oath. 
You can't get around that. 

633
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,920
And if Baylor wants to set an 
example, which he does, that's 

634
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,080
the kind of man he is. 
If he's not going to take that 

635
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,760
vow seriously, then really, then
no one will, right? 

636
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Like, if the most supposedly the
greatest knight in the realm 

637
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,720
doesn't stand up for this, then,
yeah, like, no one will. 

638
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,960
In fact, they'll do. 
What happened is they'll laugh 

639
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,720
at the very idea. 
Yeah, Baylor is really Hemming 

640
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,280
and hawing here because he's 
thinking about the implications 

641
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,120
of how this might go, right. 
His brother's going to be mad at

642
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,280
him. 
The the royal family will have a

643
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,600
more against him. 
Aryan might have to face some 

644
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,520
penalty, or the crowd that got 
mad when he killed the horse is 

645
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,480
going to be even more. 
He's just, he's thinking about 

646
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,120
how all these things will go 
when play out and the trouble 

647
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,960
and stress and reputation and da
da, da, da and dunk is like none

648
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,520
of that matters. 
You just got to follow your own.

649
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,320
You know what I mean? 
Like Baylor through his whole 

650
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,600
life has made, like you said, 
all these compromises, thinking 

651
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,080
about how to keep the peace, how
to stop rebellion, how to 

652
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,520
collect the taxes, how to keep 
the family looking good. 

653
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,960
And Dunk is reminding him like 
those are all compromises to 

654
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,160
your oath, your honor, your 
integrity. 

655
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Like, what is all that matter if
you get there through deceit and

656
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,040
dishonor and violence and lies 
and all this other stuff? 

657
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,160
Like at some point, at this 
point, you got to stop cowing to

658
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,680
Aryan, you know what I mean? 
Like you can't let him be such a

659
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,680
bad person and also be a knight 
because what does that do to all

660
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,720
the other Knights you know? 
Aryan before was able to get 

661
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,200
away with it because it was 
quiet. 

662
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,080
It was under wrath. 
People knew they had. 

663
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,280
He had this reputation. 
But the other thing that's 

664
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,000
really big about all this is 
that Baylor realizes this is a 

665
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,600
big deal. 
People are going to hear about 

666
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,880
this. 
Whatever happens, it's going to 

667
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,440
be widespread. 
People are going to talk about 

668
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,840
it. 
That's what Stefan's point is. 

669
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,680
He's like, oh, well, it won't be
hard to find more people to 

670
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,000
join. 
They want to be part of this 

671
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,080
glorious event that's so rare. 
So that means it will be 

672
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,280
remembered no matter what 
happens. 

673
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,320
And that's part of why Baylor 
realizes he has to do something.

674
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,680
He has to step up, because this 
is a memorable thing. 

675
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,480
That's the. 
Only reason we're still talking 

676
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,320
about Giles Morgan or Damon 
Morgan and Braxton Beesbury, 

677
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,920
they were in these big famous 
trials, right? 

678
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,880
And so, yeah, Stefan wants to be
in that history book that Baylor

679
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,960
was reading. 
Yep. 3 Targaryens, 3 Kingsguard 

680
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,240
and Apple. 
And I still think Baylor at this

681
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,400
point is trying to get Aryan to 
back down. 

682
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,040
He's telling dunk, look, 
challenge your trial by combat. 

683
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800
You know, he might be scared of 
you, might be scared of getting 

684
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,880
beat up by you or even being 
embarrassed by you. 

685
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Like the Baylor's hoping that 
this is the out, the Aryan will 

686
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,120
just back down. 
Which? 

687
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,280
Wouldn't have been that hard for
Aryan to do, honestly. 

688
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,360
No one probably would have 
remembered this if he just back 

689
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,120
down right? 
They would have remembered it as

690
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,080
much as he killed the horse. 
It would have been like this 

691
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,120
black mark under targeted family
that the next time there's any 

692
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,280
drama it gets overshadowed. 
That's what Baylor is hoping 

693
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,400
for. 
He's he's still. 

694
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,360
A quiet result. 
You know, he doesn't think that 

695
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,240
he's I. 
I don't know if he's thought out

696
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,960
far enough about the idea of 
airing. 

697
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,040
Went to trial by 7. 
Dunk won't be able to get 7 to 

698
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,880
fight for him. 
I'll have to fight for it. 

699
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,640
I don't know if Baylor's played 
all that in Alex's mind yet. 

700
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,720
I think he is hoping at least 
that it just doesn't get to any 

701
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,560
of that. 
I think he is aware of the 

702
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,280
possibility because he's looking
at the book of about Trials of 

703
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,480
Seven before the issue is even 
raised. 

704
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,080
But I think you're right, it's a
really important point that he 

705
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,960
you're right that he's hoping 
Aryan will back down. 

706
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,480
He knows Aryan, he knows Aryan's
kind of a coward. 

707
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,880
Not a complete coward, but kind 
of a coward, which is why he's, 

708
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,639
like you said, it's a, it's a 
calculated risk that he might 

709
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:18,800
just end it. 
He might look, OK, I'm not 

710
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,320
fighting this guy. 
But he's like, hopefully Aryan 

711
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,800
hasn't heard of trials by 7 
because then he might do that. 

712
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,360
Which is exactly what happened. 
It's interesting to think about 

713
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,920
who Aryan might have idolized or
looked up to in the Targaryen 

714
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,880
history. 
Magor, perhaps. 

715
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,880
And who was part of a trial of 
seven? 

716
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,719
Magor, Right? 
So what? 

717
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,880
Does he name his son? 
Yeah. 

718
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,920
Magor Yeah. 
Exactly. 

719
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,679
So it it just of course Aryan 
knows this particular piece of 

720
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,719
history. 
In fact, he he knows all about. 

721
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,880
He's a. 
Magor stand, Yeah. 

722
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,960
He is I, I, I think so it's, 
it's really tight. 

723
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,880
I would further explain why 
Makar was like what is this, 

724
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,080
what are you talking about that 
he wasn't as aware? 

725
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,160
Not a Makar. 
Stand. 

726
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,280
Yeah, Yeah. 
Why would you be? 

727
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Unless you're someone like 
Aryan? 

728
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,600
Yeah, unless you're just like, 
all about all the history, in 

729
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,720
which case he's part of that. 
But. 

730
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:10,040
But Makar Makar's not. 
He doesn't seem to be that. 

731
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,760
No, he's not. 
So let's talk about ideals here 

732
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,200
a little bit. 
This is the kind of interesting 

733
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,200
the way this all plays out 
culturally, looking back really 

734
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,680
far into history. 
I touched on this in the intro, 

735
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,040
so referring to ideals, not 
combat traits or anything like 

736
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,920
that. 
Long ago, the Andahl's migration

737
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,840
began in the large part because 
of Valyrian expansion, and a lot

738
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,880
of Andahl ideals are in direct 
opposition of Valyrian ideals, 

739
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,000
which is almost certainly why 
they developed that way, because

740
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,360
this was their big great enemy. 
Oh, you're going to enslave the 

741
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,040
weak? 
Well, chivalry says protect the 

742
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,800
weak. 
It's the pretty much the exact 

743
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,600
opposite. 
You guys are all about incest. 

744
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,120
Well, then no incest. 
That's a pretty straightforward 

745
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,200
opposite. 
Yeah. 

746
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,120
So a lot of that stuff and it is
playing out again, but it's the 

747
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:04,840
Valyrian guy who's using the and
all cultural tenant here as a 

748
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,520
weapon. 
He you know, like we said, he 

749
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,720
was maybe trying to get him to 
back down, but Aryan knew to 

750
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:12,720
pivot to the seven and dunk is 
like, what's that? 

751
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,440
And in the novel, just like in 
the show, Baylor says Baylor 

752
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,440
seemed troubled and he's like, 
Yep, your gambit failed. 

753
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,080
I don't know what other gambit. 
I don't know what other play he 

754
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,040
had, you know, but he's like, 
this is not going to just get 

755
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,360
swept under the rug. 
I tried by 7. 

756
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,720
He's immediately, that moment 
knows either Dunk's going to not

757
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:34,000
have 7 and that's the result I 
really don't want, or it's going

758
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,080
to be this huge event that I 
really don't want. 

759
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,320
Like everyone's going to know 
about it and everyone's going to

760
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,920
know why it's happening. 
There is another possibility 

761
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,280
that Dunk just runs away and I 
I, Baylor may not Baylor's 

762
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,840
doesn't. 
He's got a little snippet of 

763
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,640
what dunks like, so he might not
think that's likely, but it's 

764
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,280
got to at least be a 
possibility. 

765
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,240
Raymond recommends. 
It doesn't seem like Dunk ever 

766
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:00,760
quite considers it, but in a 
book he does think to himself a 

767
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,560
couple times, if I wasn't thick 
as a wall, as a castle wall, I 

768
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,560
would just be out of here. 
That is like it crosses his mind

769
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,760
at least. 
That's a great point, Sean, 

770
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,000
because he doesn't like, he just
lets him go. 

771
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,800
He's like go get your champions.
He's like, he doesn't. 

772
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,920
There's no like guards or no, 
yeah, there is no security on 

773
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,040
that at all. 
That's a great point. 

774
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,760
Yeah, I. 
Think Baylor has the measure of 

775
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,480
a man and I think he can tell 
that he is honorable. 

776
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,240
And I think Dunk, as much as he 
says he would do it if he wasn't

777
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,680
thick, Dunk is specifically is 
thick. 

778
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,880
He is tall, right? 
Like he is a big guy and I think

779
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,800
it would be harder for him to 
evade capture I think. 

780
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,920
He's. 
Very recognizable. 

781
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,680
An average man of Raymond could 
probably get away with it. 

782
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,160
They would lose their honor and 
they would have to restart their

783
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,640
life, but it would be possible. 
It would be possible. 

784
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,120
I don't think it was really 
possible for Dunk, and I think 

785
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,760
Dunk probably had some internal 
inkling that he couldn't get 

786
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,320
away with it and he knew he 
couldn't live with himself, more

787
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,240
importantly. 
Now a little more on this 

788
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,000
cultural background stuff. 
Even the concept of a trial by 

789
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,640
combat is something that would 
develop in the and all cultural 

790
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,440
sphere that would never develop 
in the Valyrians. 

791
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,560
What do you imagine they're 
like? 

792
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,080
Yeah, trial by combat against 
one of the Dragon Lords yet? 

793
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,800
No, they're not going to let you
do that. 

794
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:12,880
Of course not. 
They might be. 

795
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,040
Trying to let you do it, but 
they're going to use the dragon.

796
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Yeah, or they might like only 
between dragon Lords, like only 

797
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,760
if you're a high rank like them.
It won't be to like regular just

798
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,520
because you're a knight. 
Like knight is pretty low rank 

799
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,920
for this, right? 
Because there's thousands of 

800
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,040
Knights, right? 
In Valyria there wouldn't be 

801
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,120
that equivalent. 
So also Valyria's approach to 

802
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,000
religion is interesting here to 
consider. 

803
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,360
They allowed, like a lot of 
empires in the real world allow 

804
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,560
pretty much every religion as 
long as it's not, you know, 

805
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,840
causing a disturbance in the 
peace or causing aggression or 

806
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,160
undermining the rule of the 
ruling party or the ruling 

807
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,120
families, what have you. 
So and that interestingly keeps 

808
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,160
anyone religion from getting too
powerful because it's like, 

809
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,360
well, there's like 100 of them. 
You know, it doesn't seem like 

810
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,440
the idea that one religion is 
right is a lot harder to to get 

811
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,400
into when there's like 80 more 
of them in your city. 

812
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,120
But when there's like one that 
just has some variations on it, 

813
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,240
you're like, well, that's the 
one. 

814
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,240
So it's very different. 
And this is this is an example 

815
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:17,720
of that like, and all religion 
is the one religion here. 

816
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:21,720
They don't have a variety. 
So there's the Targaryens as the

817
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:25,600
ruling family are going to make 
use of that in ways that 

818
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,520
increases their power because 
they're stuck with it. 

819
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,120
They look, well, we're we've 
adopted and all values we got to

820
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,000
do this. 
Let's talk about Makar briefly 

821
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,480
too. 
He is interesting in the scene. 

822
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,600
He's a little bit different than
the book. 

823
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,120
He's a little more angry, a 
little less stern, ultimately 

824
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,520
not super different, but there's
a few different things in the 

825
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,680
scene too that he has to react 
to. 

826
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Like the whole walnut Makar, 
like he first sees him doing the

827
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,880
walnuts and he's like he like 
he's mad, but he doesn't say 

828
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,120
anything. 
It's like a kind of a pick your 

829
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,680
battles kind of things. 
Like if I'm policing Arian all 

830
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,280
the time, I just, that's, well, 
I would be policing Arian all 

831
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,960
the time. 
I got, I just have some things 

832
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,880
he's going to get away with just
because there's so much, you 

833
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,600
know? 
Hey, look at this face right 

834
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,400
there. 
He's so done with his son right 

835
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,040
here. 
It's so much it's, it's 

836
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,520
distracting and disrespectful to
this proceeding for Arian to be 

837
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,520
cracking his walnuts but for 
Makar to crack down on Aryan, 

838
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,200
It's also distracting and maybe,
maybe not respectful. 

839
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,880
He just doesn't want to give him
the credit. 

840
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,960
He doesn't want to encourage 
him. 

841
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,600
He doesn't want to further 
distract things. 

842
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,200
He said it perfectly. 
He's got to choose his battles. 

843
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Can I note here the great 
framing here of Aryan smacking 

844
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,600
his his dagger or whatever down 
on on the nut and it goes it's 

845
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,480
like right through dunks head. 
You know the way they frame 

846
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,120
that. 
I thought it was very striking. 

847
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,440
And then it pant goes away from 
that. 

848
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,640
He says the dunk loosened his 
tooth. 

849
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,160
Do you think he really. 
Loosened his tooth. 

850
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:49,440
If he's eating nuts, OK, I'm 
just saying he's a liar. 

851
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,280
He's a liar. 
So Speaking of pick your 

852
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080
battles, that's the perfect 
phrase because Makar is like, I 

853
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,640
won't argue. 
I'm not going to get him on 

854
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,520
this. 
And then when Aryan announces 

855
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,120
trial by 7 and Makar has that 
explained to him, it Dons and 

856
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,560
he's like, this kid just pulled 
me into his fight. 

857
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,800
He knows he has to fight for his
son. 

858
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,000
Like it's his honor. 
This is the kind of man Makar 

859
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,440
is. 
He can't make another choice. 

860
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,080
He has to stand up for his son. 
Like it's it's their it's what 

861
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,760
it's their appearance. 
This is, you know, Targaryen 

862
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,120
marketing. 
He has to stand up for his son. 

863
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,760
He can't not do that. 
And he's like, that's when he 

864
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,080
gets that's when he does get 
mad. 

865
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,000
He's like, you idiot, you know, 
he pulls him out of there and 

866
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,600
he's like, this is an honor. 
This is nonsense. 

867
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,200
He understands. 
He knows who his son is. 

868
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,560
You know, he's like this is I 
haven't had enough of this. 

869
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,080
I like even as they exit the 
room, he's pushing Aryan out of 

870
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,360
the room there. 
He's so frustrated. 

871
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,280
And if he knew what the final 
result would be like, yeah, like

872
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,920
what? 
This is actually going to cause 

873
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,640
the worst example of chivalry 
because of his pettiness. 

874
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,440
Ends up the realm loses the best
example of chivalry. 

875
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,560
His brother's gonna die because 
of this so-called nonsense, 

876
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,880
right? 
Damn it. 

877
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,880
Can I ask a question here? 
What is the birth order? 

878
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,480
Makar's oldest son is Darren, 
right? 

879
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Yep. 
And then Aryan is next. 

880
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:09,960
Yeah. 
And then? 

881
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,920
Amon and then Egg and then 
sisters. 

882
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,080
But in terms of the boys? 
Right, Daella, then Egg, and 

883
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,840
then Ray. 
'S last, but for for this 

884
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,440
context here in this moment, 
Makar is even like, you know, 

885
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,880
he's asked him like were you 
scared to just fight him on your

886
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,320
own? 
And Aryan says, Oh no, it's 

887
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,840
Darren too. 
His honor was also slighted. 

888
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,320
He's got to be part of this. 
So it's not just that Makar is 

889
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,920
getting drawn into it. 
Darren's getting drawn into it, 

890
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,960
which probably makes make our 
extra mag. 

891
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,600
He knows Darren isn't going to 
want to do this, isn't qualified

892
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,400
for this. 
All that is all interesting, but

893
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,320
I started to wonder how 
conniving is Aryan? 

894
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Extremely. 
Seem to be smart right he's not 

895
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,440
he's not dumb yeah and he we did
point out maybe he has a streak 

896
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,400
of cowardice but he's not just a
coward cow it's not like black 

897
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,920
and white coward or not coward 
right there's there's Aries in 

898
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,200
between and he might not be 
purely brave but my point is 

899
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,600
that he ends up. 
In a cell sort of company, 

900
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,240
right? 
Here he was going to Humphrey 

901
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,960
right when he stabbed that 
horse. 

902
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,440
He's thought out this trial of 
seventh thing. 

903
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,440
Is he angling to get Darren 
killed 100%? 

904
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,000
Yeah, A. 100% he wants Darren 
killed. 

905
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,280
I think he he's happy to have 
every, it's the same as house 

906
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,120
Fray in Game of Thrones, right? 
Any person that is out of your 

907
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,680
way in the line of succession 
is, is a net positive for you. 

908
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,720
So I think he is that far 
thinking. 

909
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:36,000
I think he is thinking that he 
wants to clear the way. 

910
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,840
It's a long shot, but I do think
he thinks it's possible that he 

911
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,200
could become KA100. 
Percent. 

912
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,400
He framed it the the minute Dunk
said trial by combat, there 

913
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,280
wasn't a pause. 
There wasn't. 

914
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,320
He was like, Nope. 
Trial by 7. 

915
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,320
Like he's like, I refuse. 
You can't refuse. 

916
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,960
It's like, yes, I can. 
Trial by 7. 

917
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,240
He was totally prepared. 
He said he didn't have a book he

918
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,680
didn't refer to He he was very 
prepared for that moment. 

919
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,360
I agree. 
And Shay and I agree that he 

920
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,320
thought through the consequences
of it, the long term 

921
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,600
consequences of it. 
Yeah. 

922
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Maker's like this is nonsense 
because he knows his own son. 

923
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,080
Like you said, Sean, he's like, 
why? 

924
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,160
Why would you want to bring him 
into this? 

925
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,080
If your goal is to win, you know
why would you want your 

926
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,600
incompetent brother? 
Aryan sees, he knows Mekhar and 

927
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,760
Deron will be in this fight. 
He could lose Mekhar and Deron 

928
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,480
and then he's the he's, he's the
head of his part of the family, 

929
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,880
right? 
Great for him. 

930
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,240
He he doesn't necessarily know 
that Baylor will join. 

931
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,760
I think he was surprised. 
I don't think he was planned for

932
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,920
that, but I think he sees Baylor
join and that he probably is 

933
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,080
more happy about that than 
worried. 

934
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,680
I think he thinks this is a 
great opportunity for me right 

935
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,880
it? 
Could be yeah, yeah, absolutely.

936
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,160
Because yeah, you're right. 
There's there's there's a a long

937
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,640
time. 
There's a long time between now 

938
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,520
and him, him being older, you 
know, and a lot can happen. 

939
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,360
People can die. 
That's what happens. 

940
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,840
The great spring sickness 
happens and make our does end up

941
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,080
king. 
So had, you know, Aryan got 

942
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,840
really close to the throne, I 
think. 

943
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,880
Aryan has fantasized about 
valor, specifically dying many 

944
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,680
times. 
Right, I think he is. 

945
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,240
Really, his competition, you 
know, the, the, the Crown 

946
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:04,040
Princess, Crown Prince, you 
know, like the, the what he 

947
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,080
could have been, you know. 
The only other one, and I was 

948
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,760
really a warrior. 
Yeah, you know, yeah. 

949
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,920
Exactly. 
So I think he, he sees him as 

950
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,320
his competition, his main 
competition and and so he he, he

951
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,800
would like to knock Valor out as
well if he had been in that, 

952
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,760
that trial. 
And and taking it a step 

953
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,000
further, we have to ask 
ourselves, at what point was 

954
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,400
this thing with Stefan set up? 
Was Stefan already going to 

955
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,560
Aryan or had he already talked 
to Aryan before this next scene,

956
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,480
which is Sir Stefan the 
betrayal. 

957
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,600
Let's move on to that and 
discuss that possibility. 

958
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,680
One last thing. 
In the book, Darren is in the 

959
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,640
scene, but they wanted to kind 
of hold his, his reveal off a 

960
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,680
little longer to make it more 
about him because that in that 

961
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,880
scene he says like one line. 
So he wanted to like, let's hold

962
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,920
off and bring him in later. 
Then he can have a lot of lines 

963
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,480
and rather than just be like, 
wait, that's the guy sitting 

964
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:51,480
there. 
Yeah, it was a little would have

965
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,480
been a little distracting. 
I I agree with that adaptation 

966
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,240
choice. 
Let's talk about Stefan. 

967
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Yeah, go for it. 
Can I help with the Segway to 

968
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Stefan by pointing out another 
pic I wanted to make for my 

969
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,480
favorite scene was the segue is 
in general, I thought they did 

970
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,400
such an awesome job that the 
show in general is doing it, but

971
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,280
particularly it stood out to me 
the moment when he's leaving, 

972
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,600
like he he walks from the the 
you know, that meeting, that 

973
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,840
council meeting or whatever to 
outside the castle gates and 

974
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,880
it's raining to his camp and 
it's not they did these quick 

975
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,360
cuts that I you know, what would
have been an hour or more. 

976
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,720
They showed us in three seconds 
and I think they do a lot of 

977
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:31,520
that through the through the 
course of the show. 

978
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Really good clever shifts from 1
scene to the next. 

979
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,400
So the scene begins with with 
Dunk leaving and encountering 

980
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,040
Raymond near his horses, which 
is also pretty similar to how it

981
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,360
goes in the book. 
The are you hungry question is 

982
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,240
repeated from earlier. 
This time he doesn't say always.

983
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:52,160
He's he says not really, because
he's his stomach is churning. 

984
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,560
He's worried about what's going 
to happen. 

985
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,480
He's anxious. 
I love that moment. 

986
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,280
Just to. 
Yeah, No, not actually. 

987
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,160
Not always. 
Sometimes you're in emotional 

988
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,960
distress and despite you know 
your size and the fact that he 

989
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,680
should be hungry right then, he 
is not. 

990
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,560
That was some hearty bread in 
the prison cell. 

991
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,600
So yeah, when did Stephon betray
Dunk? 

992
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,600
Was it before? 
Oh yeah, before Do they? 

993
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,000
Hug. 
In the book, do they mention 

994
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:16,720
that they hug each? 
Other. 

995
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,120
I like that moment. 
I like. 

996
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,280
Too they they just like they 
embraced. 

997
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,040
I thought it was sweet. 
And Raymond's a real one for 

998
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,520
that. 
So it it may have come before 

999
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,640
even joining. 
He may have already been 

1000
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,440
thinking about it, but it may 
have come after. 

1001
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,240
Which is somewhat implied in the
book that he gets Dunks trust 

1002
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,840
and then goes to Ari and says 
hey I've got Dunk's trust, I can

1003
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,080
totally screw him over here. 
I would say I, I guess it would 

1004
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,160
be that still I I get the yeah, 
it could have been the opposite,

1005
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,360
but. 
Lost aways with him. 

1006
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,040
Yeah, exactly. 
I think better for Stephen to go

1007
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,760
with like, hey, I have done this
thing and I will betray him than

1008
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,880
for him to go to Arian and say, 
hey, I could do this thing, he 

1009
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,760
might trust me. 
And then I'll you know what I 

1010
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,840
mean. 
Because it's pretty obvious the 

1011
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,440
Prince can do you a favor in 
return, right? 

1012
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,640
He's like, well, this guy, 
what's he going to do? 

1013
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,680
And he says he's going to name 
him Lord, which of course that 

1014
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,960
doesn't happen. 
Arian is, you know, exiled him 

1015
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,840
of like immediately after all 
this. 

1016
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,760
So Stephon, whatever reward 
Stephen was promised, I don't I 

1017
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,240
don't think he got it. 
Like what did Aryan have all 

1018
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:15,400
that money with him or a 
lordship with him? 

1019
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,040
Aryan First of all, Aryan can't 
make someone a Lord. 

1020
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,600
He doesn't have that power. 
So there's something weird going

1021
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,920
on there with Stefan, like you, 
he believes more Aryan because 

1022
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,120
like, well, I'm going to be more
powerful one day or something 

1023
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,840
like that, which is I don't know
how that how that scene went, 

1024
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,080
but Stefan was by betraying 
Dunk. 

1025
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,200
He was also a bit naive about 
what the kind of man that he was

1026
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,720
signing up for or with. 
I do think that he left not to 

1027
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:43,680
go get more nights or, or at 
least in addition, maybe he made

1028
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,840
some superficial effort or 
something, but it makes sense 

1029
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,840
that he left there to go talk to
Aryan or maybe some 

1030
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,680
representative of Aryan because 
remember he said he knew Sir 

1031
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,280
Lionel. 
I'll go get Sir Lionel, but when

1032
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,040
Dunk thanks Sir Lionel thanks 
all the nights for coming and 

1033
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,080
thanks Stefan for coming to get 
them. 

1034
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,720
Lionel's like Stefan who he 
talking about? 

1035
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,600
He goes. 
Stefan, he doesn't even get the 

1036
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,560
right name. 
Yeah. 

1037
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,840
So it's clear that he at least 
didn't go get Lionel what she 

1038
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,240
said it was doing, which makes 
sense. 

1039
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:17,120
He went. 
I think it's also possible to. 

1040
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Aryan made a promise that he 
knew we couldn't keep Stefan 

1041
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,400
maybe didn't know Aaron couldn't
give him that land. 

1042
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,600
Or he talked to some 
representative of Aryan, or 

1043
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,440
maybe even Makar or someone 
else. 

1044
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,040
You know I. 
Don't think Makar had any 

1045
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,760
involvement in it but I. 
Also think. 

1046
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,200
Stefan, I mean, it's possible 
Aryan did talk himself up and 

1047
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,920
which points to the idea that 
Aryan was gunning for a higher 

1048
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,240
status. 
And then he might have said 

1049
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:44,200
like, hey, I'm the future of 
House Targaryen. 

1050
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,240
I will make sure sure you were 
rewarded one day. 

1051
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,200
You know, it might, he might 
have made it clear to him even 

1052
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,920
that this would be not 
immediately after, but I will 

1053
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,280
remember you, you will not be 
forgotten type of thing. 

1054
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,640
I agree with you all that this 
is the best chant. 

1055
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,840
The most likely timing is right 
after he then he leaves to go 

1056
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,920
say I'm going to go get more 
nights. 

1057
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,200
What he actually does is go to 
talk to Aryan, or like you say, 

1058
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,560
possibly one of his 
representatives. 

1059
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,040
Can I point out one of the 
little I think interesting 

1060
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:14,240
detail is Stefan says you won't 
die under my watch. 

1061
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:20,480
I promise you that an A that I 
don't know how much he kept that

1062
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,840
promise, but the promise held 
true. 

1063
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,640
But I also wonder if on any 
level Stefan may be intended on 

1064
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,440
the other side to make sure it 
ended in some way that didn't 

1065
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,960
include Dunk being killed. 
I wonder if he did still have 

1066
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,000
some honorable intentions 
underlying his betrayal. 

1067
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,040
You know, I doubt it. 
And he doesn't. 

1068
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,400
He doesn't seem to have any good
qual. 

1069
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,160
Like, Raymond is his cousin. 
And Raymond just always says 

1070
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,960
he's crappy. 
And I just believe Raymond. 

1071
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,440
Yeah. 
I would have believed that there

1072
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,000
was some initial intention at 
least that he seems so I can't 

1073
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,920
think of the word sincere guest 
when he's like, I saw what they 

1074
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,200
did to the puppeteers and that's
wrong and it's, you know, it's 

1075
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,240
not we are supposed to protect 
and I don't know, but then he 

1076
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:06,960
goes on about. 
How this is going to make people

1077
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,240
famous and how he's excited 
about that, you know, So I think

1078
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,440
that's really what he's. 
He's just like, yeah, I'm using 

1079
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,560
the cloak of true knighthood to 
vault my cell phone to a a 

1080
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,520
higher status, Yeah. 
Speaks to Stefan himself being a

1081
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,800
good actor, not just not just 
Edward Ashley or whatever. 

1082
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,400
That that Stefan himself is a 
good actor because, yeah, it was

1083
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,200
believable. 
I wanted to believe him right 

1084
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,680
there. 
Like it was a it was a good 

1085
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,920
argument. 
It was what Dunk wanted to hear.

1086
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,240
It's what it it, yeah, it, it's,
it's the argument Dunk's making 

1087
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:39,320
to Baylor about being a true 
knight. 

1088
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,000
So yeah, it was very believable.
In in the book, Raymond 

1089
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,560
expresses doubt that Stefan 
knows those men, so they decided

1090
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,880
to cut that line to make it more
surprising, you know, to make 

1091
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,280
it's a little. 
Suspicious here, like I think 

1092
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,760
Raymond looks on edge and like 
he's not entirely sold. 

1093
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,840
He's not sold, you're right, But
he doesn't come out and say 

1094
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,800
that, which was an interesting 
choice there. 

1095
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,440
I do think that was a moment 
when he said you could just run.

1096
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,840
I think, I don't remember the 
quote, but I think that was 

1097
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,720
where that line came is like you
could. 

1098
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,040
Just get. 
Yeah, it's after Stefan. 

1099
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,200
He's like, won't they kill me? 
And he's like, won't they kill 

1100
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,280
you anyway? 
Yeah. 

1101
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,400
So Daron in the book points out 
about, by the way, we're about 

1102
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,080
to talk about Deron, but he says
Arian can buy a 7th man if he 

1103
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,280
need be. 
And yeah, that's also what 

1104
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,560
happens. 
So they didn't bother with that 

1105
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,040
line as well, presumably also to
just to keep keep it a secret to

1106
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,280
have the surprise. 
They boosted the sincerity. 

1107
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,720
They also wanted to boost the 
surprise. 

1108
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:36,120
It seems almost straightforward 
in that regard and it seemed to 

1109
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,000
work. 
Shout out Corn Emperor, who 

1110
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,800
sends a super chat of support. 
Appreciate that. 

1111
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,880
Well, let's talk about Deron the
drunken Dragon. 

1112
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,320
Dreamer Egg enters the fossil 
way tent and tells Dunk, hey, 

1113
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,080
I'm still your Squire. 
It's a little slightly 

1114
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,840
complicated because he's like, 
does Makar know you left and and

1115
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,760
Darren enters saying goods gods 
be good. 

1116
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,960
I hope not. 
Which is like, well, then is he 

1117
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,000
going to let you Squire for him 
after all, if he doesn't even 

1118
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,040
know you left? 
Like anyway, one that Darren 

1119
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,440
says that exact line, Gods be 
good. 

1120
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,920
I hope not. 
But a major line is added here 

1121
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,120
that I think slid under the 
radar. 

1122
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,960
He says, I can't. 
I don't want another foot 

1123
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,920
whipping. 
A foot whipping. 

1124
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,600
That is an extremely painful 
punishment often used as 

1125
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,880
torture. 
I mean, it used to be commonly 

1126
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,160
done as a, as a way to conceal 
torture because you could, you 

1127
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,480
know, your feet aren't seen 
necessarily like, look, this 

1128
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,600
person hasn't been beaten up, 
but the world is wise to that 

1129
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,160
now. 
And it's like a specifically 

1130
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,000
mentioned thing on like, like 
what, what's legal torture and 

1131
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,600
you know what, what counts as 
torture, things like that. 

1132
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,680
So it's like a thing in the, you
know, the, all the aid 

1133
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,680
organizations around the world 
are well aware of this. 

1134
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,280
So the implications that Makar 
is doing that like they're 

1135
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,960
they're, they're not just saying
Makar is a tough father and he's

1136
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,280
like, no, he beats him. 
I just believe. 

1137
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,600
That I believe it and I but I 
don't necessarily believe they 

1138
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,600
just did that without talking to
George about it. 

1139
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,800
So I think maybe that came from 
George. 

1140
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,000
Yeah. 
And it makes you wonder what 

1141
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,400
kind of punishments Aryan has 
gotten over the years, you know,

1142
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,920
and like, what kind of, you 
know, what kind of example Makar

1143
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,040
is setting for them, right? 
It's possible that, you know, 

1144
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,760
punishments that Aryan has 
gotten have made him tougher. 

1145
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,360
Like, well, I need to be a 
better fighter so my dad isn't 

1146
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,240
upset with me or I need to be 
more deceitful so my dad doesn't

1147
00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:22,040
catch me. 
Whereas it's made Darren even 

1148
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,800
more of a drunkard, even more 
care, even less I my father 

1149
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,800
doesn't even love me. 
Nothing I can do to impress him.

1150
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,160
He's just going to beat me. 
It is in no way do I want to 

1151
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,880
justify it, but it is pretty 
egregious what Darren did here. 

1152
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,240
Like in addition to like, 
imagine like the fear that Makar

1153
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:43,280
would have had over his boys. 
And maybe this having happened 

1154
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,880
several times before, he doesn't
really worry about it. 

1155
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,760
But there he really is, suddenly
missing two of his sons. 

1156
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,400
That's got to be troubling for 
like a week or more that they 

1157
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,960
were gone, right? 
And then on top of that, the 

1158
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,240
efforts of all the other people 
scrounging around trying to find

1159
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:00,960
him and what's happened, other 
people that might have been 

1160
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,840
chastised or been whipped 
themselves from losing track of 

1161
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,240
them. 
Not to mention the dishonor he's

1162
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:07,480
supposed to be in this 
tournament. 

1163
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,080
All these things. 
I you can see it is pretty awful

1164
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,680
what Darren has done here. 
He's not as bad as he invited. 

1165
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,040
Me to do it. 
I can see why Dunk is this mad 

1166
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,920
And, and, and look at Peter 
Claffey's face here. 

1167
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,480
He's like, he really was like an
enraged giant. 

1168
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,760
He just. 
Yeah, you're right. 

1169
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,360
And this was a very important 
adaptation choice here because 

1170
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,600
it doesn't happen in the book, 
but I understand why they did 

1171
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,880
it. 
In the book, Dunk notices that 

1172
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,440
he does draw his dagger, he just
doesn't put it to Daron's neck. 

1173
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,520
He notices that Daron is 
completely unintimidated by it. 

1174
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,720
You got to show that, and this 
is how you show it. 

1175
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,160
Daron was not intimidated by 
having the dagger pushed up as 

1176
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,600
his neck, but he's afraid of his
dream, so he was completely 

1177
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,760
unafraid of this. 
He's like, you know, he's like, 

1178
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,120
ah, just he's still joking and 
like playing it off. 

1179
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,560
He doesn't. 
He knows Dunk's not going to 

1180
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,240
kill him, or if he does, he just
doesn't care. 

1181
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,480
But he's scared of the dream and
he's scared that it is him in 

1182
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,400
the dream. 
So he's scared of his his 

1183
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,600
prophecy, but he's he must know 
that. 

1184
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,040
Well, I'm not going to die like 
this. 

1185
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,480
He's has certainty that Dunk 
isn't going to kill him there. 

1186
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,720
So I think that's pretty 
interesting. 

1187
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,480
Or he's accepted that he's going
to die like this. 

1188
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,600
He could be like, oh, this is 
the moment, this is what I 

1189
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,720
dreamed about, go ahead and 
kill. 

1190
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:13,720
Then why is he scared of the of 
the dream? 

1191
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:15,480
Why is he scared of the dream 
then he's scared. 

1192
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,480
He's been scared of that dream 
and he's not scared of this. 

1193
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,200
So I think that's an important 
dichotomy. 

1194
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,320
Anyway, the dialogue is pretty 
similar to the book here as 

1195
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,080
well. 
He did some changes, some 

1196
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,560
omissions, but not not too 
different. 

1197
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,760
It's weird though. 
One thing that I thought was odd

1198
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,120
here, slightly disappointing, 
was this show really leaned into

1199
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,720
the comedic elements quite a 
bit, right? 

1200
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,040
And they took out two of the 
funniest lines of of Derrons 

1201
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,000
they took out. 
Well, he wasn't at the bottom of

1202
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,160
my wine cup and I hadn't looked 
anywhere else. 

1203
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,360
And they took out my brothers 
have my measure when it comes to

1204
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,440
fighting and dancing and 
thinking and reading books, but 

1205
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,160
none of them is half my equal at
lying insensible in the mud. 

1206
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,600
We can hope that maybe that 
comes later, but probably not. 

1207
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,760
Probably not anyway. 
But they did keep the Too bad 

1208
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,080
Aryan wasn't born a Fossaway. 
Then he'd be oh, look at this. 

1209
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,280
A Shia has a Fossaway Aryan 
ready for us. 

1210
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,720
It says Aryan Fossaway after 
drinking the wild cider and it's

1211
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,560
a it's a red apple with Finn 
Bennett's features and hair and 

1212
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,120
pose and I find it a very funny 
tweet and meme. 

1213
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,240
Good job to this person makes me
really smile and it is a 

1214
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,360
favorite line of mine. 
But I want to say something more

1215
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:25,400
about this line here because it 
comes in a interesting way to me

1216
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:30,040
personally in that he's kind of,
he's being a real Dick to 

1217
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,040
Raymond right here. 
But that is explained based on 

1218
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:39,040
something that isn't in the 
novel I find, which is Egg tells

1219
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,560
him about the abuse that Aryan, 
you know, did to him. 

1220
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,600
And he's really opening up and 
it's really, it's really 

1221
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,200
intense. 
And probably Daron went through 

1222
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,080
something similar with Aryan, 
you might think, or has at least

1223
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,160
experienced it, or eggs talked. 
You know, Daron is familiar with

1224
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,920
this. 
And Raymond laughs. 

1225
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,160
He Snickers. 
And it's not, I mean, I, I feel 

1226
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,800
like part of that is it's 
awkward. 

1227
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,480
Part of that is it's gossip 
about someone that Raymond 

1228
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,280
really hates. 
It validates all those things he

1229
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,240
was saying all. 
These things he was saying, 

1230
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,920
right? 
Like he's, he's that he's, you 

1231
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,120
know, kind of a freak that he's,
he's terrible and a pedophile 

1232
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,280
and all these awful things, 
right? 

1233
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,760
And so he's he's Snickers, but 
Dunk does not like that. 

1234
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,640
And he looks at Raymond and 
scolds him with his eyes over 

1235
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,760
it. 
And Daron also does not like it.

1236
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,480
And that's what leads him to say
that right here. 

1237
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,160
He says that very snarky line to
Raymond, kind of putting him in 

1238
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,080
his place, insulting him. 
And I thought that was a really 

1239
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,200
a good addition, in fact, to 
explain why Daron was like this 

1240
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,680
to him. 
Yeah, so that's 2 examples 

1241
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:42,360
there. 
You did that. 

1242
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,560
You showed this example there, 
and I and I pointed out the 

1243
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,640
example of why they had to go a 
little farther with the dagger 

1244
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,160
just to show that he wasn't 
afraid of it. 

1245
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,040
Now, let's actually talk about 
the dream when the Ample's dunk 

1246
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,240
outside to talk. 
It's also very similar to the 

1247
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,920
book scene. 
Let's have the quote first, 

1248
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,960
actually, and then we'll go from
there. 

1249
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,440
This is the book version of the 
quote, which you'll recognize is

1250
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,400
very similar to what you heard 
on the TV show. 

1251
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,040
I dreamed of you and a dead 
dragon. 

1252
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,120
You see a great beast, huge, 
with wings so large they could 

1253
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,400
cover this Meadow. 
It had fallen on top of you, but

1254
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,760
you were alive and the dragon 
was dead. 

1255
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,200
This scene seems to have been 
shot similarly to House of the 

1256
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,600
Dragon Season 1 episode 3, I 
believe it was, when Viserys is 

1257
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,840
drunkenly weeping in front of 
the bonfire, telling Allison 

1258
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,960
about his dreams in a way that 
frightens and confuses her, 

1259
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,520
which is what's happening with 
Dunk here. 

1260
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,920
The implications are different. 
A lot of things are different 

1261
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,720
about it, but I think they were 
maybe trying to. 

1262
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,560
I agree that's. 
The vibe. 

1263
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,000
Of that really well shot, well 
filmed. 

1264
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,360
I think it exactly reminds me of
of Viserys and Allison there. 

1265
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,400
And and I thought that the 
makeup and, you know, costuming 

1266
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:55,240
here was also really spot on in 
terms of how haunted Daron looks

1267
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,840
and how teary eyed he looked, 
how kind of Red Nose, like a 

1268
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,360
drunk he looked, all these 
things. 

1269
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,440
They're on the red nosed dragon 
Targaryen. 

1270
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,200
And by the way, also this dreams
like this or why Egg was a lot 

1271
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,160
more freaked out about the 
fortune teller. 

1272
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,120
He's like, well, my brother's 
dreams come true, why not? 

1273
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,840
So I know it's possible. 
Just a quick note, by the way, 

1274
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,280
that fortune was more realistic 
to Egg than it was to Dunk. 

1275
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,280
Dunk's like, yeah, sure, I'll be
rich, but Egg's like I am a 

1276
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,920
royal. 
Like it's a. 

1277
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,080
You're on to something here. 
Super chat from Jillsville, who 

1278
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,720
says Darren Sigil is a possum. 
All right, yeah. 

1279
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:33,560
Fair. 
And Corn Emperor says. 

1280
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,920
I keep wanting to ask if egg is 
a way for us to see how Fagon 

1281
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,840
Young Griff would be as a king. 
Commoner life. 

1282
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,320
Oh, absolutely. 
There are like a dozen strong 

1283
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,720
parallels between Fagon and egg 
that we'll we've gone through in

1284
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,560
the past. 
Well, I'll have to arrange that 

1285
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,120
because I can't remember them 
all off the top of my head. 

1286
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,760
So some other time we'll go 
through that. 

1287
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,840
Aegon is a fake commoner. 
Yeah, yeah, right. 

1288
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,440
Aegon is a fake royal. 
I know one of them is that they 

1289
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,560
both wear a straw hat. 
The first time we see Young 

1290
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,480
Griff, he's wearing a straw hat.
That's pretty cool. 

1291
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,520
So let's talk about Steely 
Pate's Penny. 

1292
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,440
Another scene pretty much 
straight from the book really, 

1293
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,120
with a few additions that really
couldn't have been done in a 

1294
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,240
book. 
Dunk takes a walk in the rain, 

1295
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,920
checks out the wreckage of the 
puppet show, and then we get 

1296
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,880
Tanzel's voice. 
Hearing him. 

1297
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,760
That's a great way to do it. 
Like, it's a different sort of 

1298
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,200
inner monologue, but he's 
hearing someone else's voice, 

1299
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,320
something that we already saw in
a performance, and he's thinking

1300
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,840
about how it applies to him. 
He's looking at Florian and 

1301
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,560
You're a Fool rings out in his 
head. 

1302
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,520
So it's really well 
communicated, but it's very 

1303
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,800
artistic. 
It also kept up our streak of a 

1304
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,680
flashback in every single 
episode because I will say I do 

1305
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,600
not believe the Arlen shot was 
an actual flashback. 

1306
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,760
I think it was for dramatic 
effect in Dunk's head. 

1307
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,880
And I think we have clues to 
that based on Dunk's garb, which

1308
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,880
he didn't have back then. 
But we have a flashback because 

1309
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,880
we do see Tansel. 
So let's hope we know in episode

1310
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,200
5 we'll get a flashback. 
Hope we get one in episode 6 and

1311
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,880
and honestly every episode of 
the whole show. 

1312
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,520
Back Central. 
So he finds that head of floor. 

1313
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,760
He's looking at it. 
This was in the trailers. 

1314
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,960
We really wondered what the shot
was for a long time. 

1315
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,680
And, you know, it's one of those
other things, like what we 

1316
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,440
talking about Sean's like, you 
know, it actually makes so much 

1317
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,320
sense. 
Of course it's Florian's head. 

1318
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,360
The puppet show gets destroyed. 
I never. 

1319
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,880
It didn't even occur to me that 
this was a possibility. 

1320
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:20,680
And he's like, it was. 
I saw. 

1321
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,600
My God. 
Yeah, that's really obvious. 

1322
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,360
I think it's that we we were 
thinking of small puppets, even 

1323
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,560
though we had seen that they 
were large puppets. 

1324
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,560
But I think in our heads we 
still were in the small puppet 

1325
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,800
state of mind that it didn't 
cross my mind. 

1326
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,560
But also, I thought maybe this 
was a dream sequel. 

1327
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,080
This was like a flashback. 
At the time, I was like, I 

1328
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,960
considered that because I just 
because I didn't know what else 

1329
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,560
it was. 
Now this is some sort of 

1330
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,320
Shakespeare reference too. 
Yeah, it does seem to be. 

1331
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,880
I seem to remember in one of the
behind the scenes thing that 

1332
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,840
that the head of Florin is a 
mold of Dunks head. 

1333
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,720
Do you guys remember hearing 
that? 

1334
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,080
I do not think I saw that, and I
don't know that I think that's 

1335
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,080
true. 
Aryan's helmet is a multiple. 

1336
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,880
I think that's what you're 
thinking of is that Aryan's 

1337
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,320
helmet is Finn Bennett's face. 
But I I watched all of the 

1338
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,040
extras and I have not seen. 
That yeah, if anybody else heard

1339
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,640
that weigh in maybe it was we. 
We'll see. 

1340
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,800
I think we've just. 
Seen Joe Magician who says he 

1341
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,440
thinks it looks like Dunk and he
had a video where he talked 

1342
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,640
about how Florian looks like 
Dunk but I don't think he's 

1343
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,840
saying it was confirmed. 
Right on. 

1344
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,680
So just as steely Pate shows up 
and he tells him, hey, I've got 

1345
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:25,000
your I've got the shield. 
And before Dunk turns to leave, 

1346
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,760
you hear he remembers Tanzel's 
scream and then this. 

1347
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,280
This is another one of those 
great segways, as you said, 

1348
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,960
Sean, this is one of the more 
like overt ones where he closes 

1349
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,680
the door and it makes a snapping
sound just like her finger 

1350
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,360
snapping. 
So it's like they're remembering

1351
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,400
that pin. 
This is a great scene. 

1352
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,840
It's also like it's I'm almost 
tired of hearing myself say it, 

1353
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,960
but it's it's also a a wonderful
thing that they keep getting 

1354
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,240
things so close to the book 
version, because this book scene

1355
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,360
is scene is great. 
You've just nothing to change, 

1356
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,120
No notes, right. 
I mean, only the things that 

1357
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,160
have to be adapted for dialogue 
wise or, you know, visual wise. 

1358
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,040
Sir Arlen of penny tree meat 
steely Pate of penny rim or 

1359
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,760
penny shield. 
That's how much he charged. 

1360
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,000
Even the beard. 
Even in the book he's scratching

1361
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,040
his beard when he says that. 
And from you, a cop, this great,

1362
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,840
great line. 
So you have to have a lot of 

1363
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,800
content to understand why that 
line is. 

1364
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,120
That's the only thing that holds
it back from being an even 

1365
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,080
better line because in a in a 
vacuum, it it's doesn't quite 

1366
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,400
stand, but it's great. 
It's great. 

1367
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,000
And the dialogue about the rim, 
the dialogue about the shield 

1368
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,120
and how he's thinks it's painted
up like death and he's like, no,

1369
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,080
it's a Elm's alive green. 
All that's from the book. 

1370
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,280
And then Dunk is crying just a 
little bit, wiping his eyes. 

1371
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,360
He's wet cuz there's rain 
dripping down. 

1372
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,320
So it's a little ambiguous, but 
it's. 

1373
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,880
Not ambiguous really, when 
you're watching, you do see 

1374
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,120
really clearly here. 
The tears spring up in his eyes 

1375
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:52,240
one and then fall down his his 
face, and then him wipe it away 

1376
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,200
and his nose running even he 
took. 

1377
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,920
His note of that too, like 
you're you're right, I guess a 

1378
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,760
share and he took note too, when
when he asked what happened and 

1379
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,080
and steely Pate said they make 
for Dorn. 

1380
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,040
Well, well gone as well. 
Forgot also a line from the book

1381
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,760
and he said good, Dunk says 
good. 

1382
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,920
And that I think Pate even more 
was sure about Dunk at that 

1383
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,000
moment was like, well, he's 
thinking first of her safety, 

1384
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,840
like he wants to see her, but 
her safety is more important. 

1385
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,520
And that's just another clue 
from steely Pate. 

1386
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,680
I think he already knew by then 
who he was dealing with, but 

1387
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,440
this was just more of the same. 
That shield looks so good. 

1388
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:32,200
I think this episode was like 
95% the same as a book. 

1389
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,160
I think this episode, maybe more
than any other episodes so far, 

1390
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:40,480
has been just straight from the 
book and even thinking about, I 

1391
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,280
don't know, some things we've 
touched on earlier, like a lot 

1392
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,400
of the lines spoken. 
I was pointing out that Doug's 

1393
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,200
interaction with, I didn't say 
it, but you kind of pointed out 

1394
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,840
as an actual Darren is an action
from Baylor and his interaction 

1395
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,400
with the egg. 
We're all a little bit more 

1396
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,560
aggressive in the show than they
were in the book, though the 

1397
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,000
lines were almost all still the 
same. 

1398
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,040
It was just like his delivery. 
And it's an example of how you 

1399
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,800
can, like with filmmaking, 
whether it's music or editing or

1400
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,840
performances, still add 
something to it. 

1401
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,680
Even if you're perfectly exactly
reflecting whatever the the 

1402
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,200
lines of the imagery in a book, 
but the emotion or the 

1403
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,600
performance or the music behind 
all that can change the tone a 

1404
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,400
little. 
But but even those little nuance

1405
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,160
changes I think are fine. 
You know, I think it's, I think 

1406
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,440
it's interesting that they made 
Dunk a little bit more. 

1407
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,800
I don't know what phrase to use.
They're maybe giving him more 

1408
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,840
agency or maybe putting 
ourselves in his shoes of like, 

1409
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,520
yeah, I'd be mad too. 
You know, it's a little easier 

1410
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:44,160
for us to maybe relate to him 
feeling so wrong than to him 

1411
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,480
being like, oh, well, I guess 
I'm just a big dummy, you know 

1412
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,000
what I mean? 
It's and that's also harder to 

1413
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,120
get across without his internal 
monologue, but. 

1414
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,520
Yeah, it's easier to act anger. 
And I think you're right on both

1415
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,480
points that it is more 
relatable, more likable. 

1416
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,240
Yeah, I think that's a good 
point on why they would do that.

1417
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,200
Yeah, I agree. 
I think I'm with you all on 

1418
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,400
that. 
And you know, just as a not 

1419
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,520
directly related concept, it's 
certainly a thing that 

1420
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,240
adatations do is you, maybe you 
modernize it a little bit, you 

1421
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,760
maybe make the language a little
more familiar to people of 

1422
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,400
current generation. 
Whoever's watching now for 1/1 

1423
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,320
very simple example of this is 
egg. 

1424
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,840
When he's cheering for the Jows,
he's yelling, come on, that is 

1425
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,800
something people say right now 
in sports. 

1426
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:32,480
That's a current sports cheer. 
Like in 2026 and 2025, that's 

1427
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,240
what people say. 
And he could have been saying, 

1428
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,680
let's go. 
And it would have been about the

1429
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,920
same, you know, and then about 
like 20 years ago, he would have

1430
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,400
been, I don't know, saying 
something else. 

1431
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,040
Aside about the sports thing, 
and this comes back to a 

1432
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,720
previous episode with Duncan Egg
together, I thought it was a 

1433
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,000
really sweet, beautiful moment 
for them to bond over sports 

1434
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,320
there because if you're watching
the behind the scenes inside the

1435
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,840
episodes and all that, they 
showed that Peter Claffey and 

1436
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,960
Dexter Solan cell in the in 
filming, they really did go to 

1437
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,960
sports games to bond. 
And so you see them cheering 

1438
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,960
like, you know, at football 
games and stuff like that 

1439
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,400
together, which I, I just like 
that, you know, when real life 

1440
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,840
parallels a fiction so well. 
And it's just something that is 

1441
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:20,840
true of humans across across 
fiction and reality that we like

1442
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,720
to cheer sports teams on. 
Can you imagine the real life 

1443
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,720
example of that? 
Like was his head shaved 

1444
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,000
already? 
It would be like Raymond's, like

1445
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,439
I've seen you with that boy 
before. 

1446
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,840
Like who is that tall guy with 
that shaved headache? 

1447
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,240
You're probably just think it's 
his son or his little brother or

1448
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:35,800
something like that. 
But like, Can you imagine like 

1449
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,279
seeing them and be like, that's 
weird. 

1450
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:40,240
And then like, five months 
later, you find out about this 

1451
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,840
show and you're like, that was 
Duncan Egg. 

1452
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,479
My God. 
Just like, wake up 1 morning and

1453
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,160
just realize the memory comes 
back to you. 

1454
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,040
Yeah, David Fox 4548 says I'll 
help me with this. 

1455
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,680
Arlen had not been an attorney 
since the Baylor joust event. 

1456
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,279
So maybe he was going to ask for
tonight. 

1457
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:58,680
Duncan, allow him to enter the 
attorney. 

1458
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:03,399
It's an interesting theory. 
In general, I like trying to 

1459
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:06,000
fill in the gap for why Arlen 
was going because according to 

1460
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,560
Duncan was sort of a sudden 
decision. 

1461
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,359
It wasn't like what Arlen had 
planned before and it was like 

1462
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:11,960
sort of a spur of the moment 
decision. 

1463
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:13,760
So there is a little something 
there maybe. 

1464
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,319
It was a knight, yes. 
I, I, I think it's a strong 

1465
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:19,640
theory. 
I think Arlen intended on Knight

1466
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,720
and Duncan. 
I think he did. 

1467
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,760
I do think so. 
I think he was training him. 

1468
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,840
I think he he would have 
knighted him if it had happened.

1469
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:29,040
But it didn't happen. 
And I I I think it's a good 

1470
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,240
theory, David Fox, that why else
go to Ashford? 

1471
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,279
Unless Arlen just wanted one 
last send off, maybe. 

1472
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:37,920
I think also it's possible Arlen
knew a certain Knight was going 

1473
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,520
to be there. 
A certain Lord, rather, Yeah. 

1474
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:40,840
There's a chance for employment 
there. 

1475
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,200
He wanted employment and he knew
someone would be there that 

1476
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,560
might hire him, and he needed to
be employed because he was. 

1477
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,800
He couldn't be as hedge knight 
as as readily now he was sick. 

1478
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,040
I, I think the problem with that
theory 22 comments. 

1479
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,280
One, I think the problem with 
that theory is that Arlene had 

1480
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,360
already united Don. 
That's why would he need to go 

1481
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:02,720
to hospital. 
And the other is that it's 

1482
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,440
something I think is interesting
that I don't even think they 

1483
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,360
need to give us anything else 
for it. 

1484
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,840
But they did make a point a 
couple times of showing that 

1485
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:16,520
gash on Arlen's forearm that I, 
I'm, I'm taking that's like got 

1486
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,440
infected and LED to his death. 
He just got a cold from the. 

1487
01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:23,280
Donkey range was cold, but yeah,
that's a good point that it was 

1488
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,240
more than that. 
He had the yeah, that that's 

1489
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,120
more more likely to kill you, 
like sepsis or something like 

1490
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,560
that. 
Good point, didn't even realize 

1491
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,080
that if Arlen hid that from him 
well enough and did just think 

1492
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,160
he got cold but. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1493
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,240
So here's a question for 
everybody. 

1494
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,760
It's not necessarily some. 
Again, it's the one that we 

1495
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,840
don't necessarily have an answer
to. 

1496
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,200
But at what point does Baylor 
start thinking about the 

1497
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,600
possibility that he's going to 
join Dunk, not that he's made 

1498
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,400
the final decision. 
At what point does it occur to 

1499
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,880
him, like in the back of his 
mind, when does his subconscious

1500
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,560
push him towards that? 
Like he's it's working at him, 

1501
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:54,760
right? 
Dunk, everything that dunk said,

1502
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,840
everything that's happening, 
it's eating away at him. 

1503
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,600
He's he's realizing what he's 
got to do. 

1504
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,040
At what point does it become 
clear to him? 

1505
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,320
Like, is it all the way back in 
the early part? 

1506
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,520
Is it. 
Yeah, just I. 

1507
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,840
Think overnight. 
I think he he overnight as he, 

1508
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,120
he sat with his thoughts. 
I don't think it happened to 

1509
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,080
him, right? 
Azarian said it necessarily. 

1510
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,040
Maybe it did, maybe it did, but 
I, I think he overnight, he, he,

1511
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,640
he, you know, probably prayed on
it, even if he's as religious as

1512
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,960
he's made it seem. 
I think he thought about it and 

1513
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,440
he made the decision. 
And then it had to have been a 

1514
01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:30,520
bit in advance because he did 
have to go get his son Valar's 

1515
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,760
armor, get the breastplate 
stretcher for it so he could fit

1516
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,600
in it and and then come out and 
get the horse. 

1517
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,400
Right. 
Like, yeah, he, he did have to 

1518
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,440
plan ahead. 
It wasn't, it wasn't at the 

1519
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:41,920
point that he knew Dunk was 
short. 

1520
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,880
That's what I know for sure. 
It wasn't when he knew Dunk was 

1521
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,960
absolutely short and when he 
knew Stefan had betrayed him 

1522
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,520
because enough time didn't pass 
for him to go get ready. 

1523
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,480
Yeah, I think getting all that 
armor and stuff would have taken

1524
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,840
probably multiple hours. 
It's much having to get it from 

1525
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,120
his son and everything. 
So I don't think it could have 

1526
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,760
been like right at the last 
minute. 

1527
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,200
I think it's possible that he 
started considering it at the 

1528
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,400
same moment that Makar realized,
wait, I'm going to have to fight

1529
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,080
in this thing. 
I think he, I think it might 

1530
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,200
have occurred to Baylor at the 
same moment that occurred to 

1531
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,000
Makar. 
But I think it's also possible, 

1532
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:21,560
maybe more likely, that he 
caught wind of Stephen conniving

1533
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,720
and realized it. 
Crap, I'm going to have to do 

1534
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,920
this. 
Sure, that's possible. 

1535
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,200
They're. 
Both in the same castle, Aryan 

1536
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,000
and Baylor. 
And Baylor probably knows. 

1537
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,040
Like who's Aryan visiting with? 
He might ask people. 

1538
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,040
I think it's where King's Guard 
could have told him or 

1539
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:37,720
something, yeah. 
I think. 

1540
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,200
That's green or other people 
weren't worried about finding a 

1541
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,440
7th. 
Even if you didn't necessarily 

1542
01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:45,400
specifically knows about Stefan,
he probably realized, wait, if 

1543
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,080
they have seven, yeah. 
Because Baylor would be 

1544
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,280
wondering who their 7th is too. 
He already knows who the six 

1545
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:51,280
are. 
He'd be, but he would be like, I

1546
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,120
wonder who their 7th is. 
You know, he would be thinking 

1547
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,480
about that. 
He's not going to miss the 

1548
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:57,440
detail like that. 
So let's talk about the setup 

1549
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,040
for the trial. 
Obviously, the trial doesn't 

1550
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,640
begin in this episode. 
I presume it'll begin pretty 

1551
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,000
early next episode, not right 
away. 

1552
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,600
They've got to have Baylor's got
to give a speech. 

1553
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,240
We might have flashbacks. 
There's going to be flashbacks. 

1554
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,440
We just don't know where they're
placed. 

1555
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,880
Well, we know where some of them
are placed, but we'll talk about

1556
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,280
that in the preview episode. 
I love this shot of Dunk facing 

1557
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,880
the tournament grounds, which is
no longer a tournament ground. 

1558
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,240
It is now a trial by 7 grounds 
with his sunset shield facing us

1559
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,920
as Don breaks in front of him. 
That's a really great shot that 

1560
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:24,840
I think you had on screen 
earlier. 

1561
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:25,680
Oh, there it is. 
Cool. 

1562
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:26,440
Yeah. 
I love that shot. 

1563
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,920
Really. 
They made sure to get the colors

1564
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:33,080
to, to match, you know, his 
shield, I think very well. 

1565
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,160
I thought it was. 
It was very beautiful. 

1566
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,040
Aziz. 
I agree. 

1567
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,360
So when Dunk walks in, he's not 
feeling good at all. 

1568
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,800
He's doubting himself. 
He's doubting a lot of support, 

1569
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,640
just a lot of things. 
And then there's people there he

1570
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,400
is offered an egg in this trying
time and this egg comes with 

1571
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,960
many benefits. 
When he walks onto the field, he

1572
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,880
finds help away. 
Let's have the book version of 

1573
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,280
this because again it you could 
swap the book in the show 

1574
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,280
version and not necessarily be 
sure which is which quote. 

1575
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,360
Then he saw the others, the one 
eyed man with the salt and 

1576
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,080
pepper beard, the young knight 
in the striped yellow and black 

1577
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,840
Serco with the beehives on the 
shield, Robin Reisling and 

1578
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,960
Humphrey Beesbury, he thought in
astonishment, and Sir Humphrey 

1579
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,560
Harding as well. 
Harding was mounted on Aryan's 

1580
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,880
red charger, now barted in his 
red and white diamonds. 

1581
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:28,320
He went to them. 
Sirs, I am in your debt. 

1582
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,680
The debt is Aryan's, Sir 
Humphrey, Harding replied. 

1583
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,800
And we mean to collect it. 
Got that exact line. 

1584
01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:39,320
And this is when we get Sir 
Lionel saying who the HEF is, 

1585
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,840
Sir Stevron. 
And so as we said, as we 

1586
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,360
predicted, they were and and 
appreciated they gave a little 

1587
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:51,520
more set up for egg bringing 
Robin Reisling and the 

1588
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,240
Humphreys. 
Well, particularly Robin 

1589
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,920
Reisling and Lionel Brathian. 
Really, the the Humphreys come 

1590
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,920
on their own pretty much because
they have their own motivation. 

1591
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,000
Yeah, we see the motivation of 
course, with what happened to 

1592
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:07,400
Humphreys horse and leg, which 
he references and can I say 

1593
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,200
Humphrey Beesbury, you have 
something to say about him, but 

1594
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,560
I don't know if you all noticed 
his mustache. 

1595
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,960
I just want to point this out. 
He he dyes his mustache, he 

1596
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,600
bleaches it. 
Basically he dyes it like honey,

1597
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,760
colored like a. 
Bee honey mustache. 

1598
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,360
That is crazy. 
It's really, really very funny 

1599
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:24,000
to me. 
It's. 

1600
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,920
Honey mustard. 
I mean honey mustache. 

1601
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,840
Yeah, yeah, very funny. 
So Beesbury is there because 

1602
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,200
he's the brother-in-law of of 
Harding. 

1603
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,640
So that's pretty straightforward
as well, well. 

1604
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,840
That's straightforward to us, 
but I did they mention that in 

1605
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,320
the show at all? 
Nope, I assume they're going to 

1606
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,960
talk about him a little bit in 
the beginning of the show 

1607
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,400
because there's a little set up 
more, but but yeah, he is not. 

1608
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,400
His name hasn't even been has 
been dropped even. 

1609
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,320
So check out Egg over here. 
He's just like, even though this

1610
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,080
is really serious and everything
is about look at Egg playing 

1611
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,960
with the ACT. 
He's just playing with the ax. 

1612
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,320
That's great. 
He's like, excuse me, he's even 

1613
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,240
making sounds. 
He is getting ready in case he's

1614
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,960
called to join. 
He might need to be the youngest

1615
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,800
ever night and he's got to be 
prepared. 

1616
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,040
Aziz, come on, you don't you? 
Don't you dream to imagine? 

1617
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,840
I I'm so wrong. 
You're so right. 

1618
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,840
So yeah, basically Dunk only 
found one helper on his own, and

1619
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,080
that helper was a complete 
fraud, Stefan. 

1620
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,640
So yeah, it's an egg in this 
trying time. 

1621
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,480
Not an apple, but an apple does.
Step forward, Raymond the 

1622
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:29,920
Squire, and it's awesome. 
Squire no more. 

1623
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,720
He's no longer Squire Raymond, 
and the apples are redeemed 

1624
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,360
somewhat. 
I still have forbidden fruit 

1625
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:35,400
though. 
Two things. 

1626
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,240
I love Stefan's armor. 
It is very cool and beautiful 

1627
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,920
with all the apples. 
And he also has like a very 

1628
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,480
stunning cloak with the apple 
embroidery on the back. 

1629
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,040
But I also love Lionel paying 
attention to this interaction 

1630
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,280
and I wonder if he's like, oh, 
that's Sir Stefan, Ron, what a 

1631
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,160
what an asshole. 
You know, glad I don't know him.

1632
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,680
He's paying attention from when 
this happens, they make sure to 

1633
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,640
show him. 
So it makes sense that he then 

1634
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,760
walks over to get involved in 
the night and he has witnessed 

1635
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,200
this whole thing and sees that 
this guy's a real Dick. 

1636
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,800
I. 
Seem to remember that was in the

1637
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,520
book too, that the other nights 
were a witness to this betrayal.

1638
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,960
Yeah, you're right. 
I don't think Lionel said 

1639
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,880
anything, but he doesn't really 
say anything here either. 

1640
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,080
He just looks, imagine, put the 
camera on it to make sure it's 

1641
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,240
important that we know that he's
looking. 

1642
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,520
Imagine everyone in the stands 
watching this up up on the Deus 

1643
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,680
up in the stands on the side, 
like what they see because they 

1644
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:31,080
see Stefan join, they see 
another Faust away like push him

1645
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,080
and like they see an altercation
has happened here, like maybe 

1646
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,480
rise. 
To the other side, maybe, yeah. 

1647
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,520
Exactly. 
It was probably very dramatic 

1648
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,360
for everyone to witness. 
So as we discussed, the Raymond 

1649
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:42,960
knighting was a great piece of 
cinema. 

1650
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,200
No need to rehash that. 
It was just so cool. 

1651
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,800
Really well done. 
Just changed the moment and gave

1652
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,080
it a lot of gravitas like I 
said. 

1653
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:55,120
It also added added more fuel to
the fire of everyone who won is 

1654
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,760
horny for Lionel because he 
looks great. 

1655
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,640
Two people who kind of ship 
those two. 

1656
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:05,600
I think there's like a look that
Lionel gives Dunk here where he 

1657
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,240
is like, he's not going to do 
it. 

1658
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,920
He's not going to do it. 
And I think some people are 

1659
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:14,120
theorizing that Lionel suspects 
that he is not an actual knight 

1660
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,560
and that he is an imposter right
here, that that's why he kind of

1661
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,280
gives them the out. 
And maybe Lionel just suspects 

1662
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,400
that he has low self esteem 
about being a commoner. 

1663
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:27,520
But I think Lionel is seeing 
Dunk's turmoil here and that's 

1664
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,480
why he gives him the out right 
like he he kind of does him a 

1665
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:32,320
solid. 
He he, he gets something. 

1666
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,800
You know what? 
I know exactly what's wrong. 

1667
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,760
Whether he's Dunk is like, I 
should knight him because I'm 

1668
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,720
not a knight, or because Dunk 
doesn't actually know the words 

1669
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,880
because he hasn't heard them 
because he wasn't knighted. 

1670
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:47,560
Well, unless you're Sean. 
I seem to remember when we read 

1671
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,600
the books when we did the reread
us of the books that we spent a 

1672
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:55,120
while talking about like what 
the words are that it's not 

1673
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,360
consistent that like different 
we we've had a couple moments of

1674
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,160
someone being knighted and it 
wasn't done the same way each 

1675
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:07,040
time, which might even make 
sense and standardized format or

1676
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,520
book or so Internet site to look
it up. 

1677
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,680
You know, just different Knights
who were knighted by different 

1678
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,520
Knights before them just do it 
the way they were. 

1679
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,440
And that might be different, 
different territories and 

1680
01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:19,440
different time periods. 
And so that's maybe some 

1681
01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:22,920
justification for dunks. 
Hesitant a good one because 

1682
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,080
there's got to be one. 
Since he hesitated, I don't know

1683
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,680
why else he would hesitate. 
Can I also say that in that 

1684
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,200
moment, we even, you know, to 
whatever extent Lionel might 

1685
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,480
have been observed was going on 
and kind of given Duncan out 

1686
01:19:37,480 --> 01:19:40,720
there the trigger, the 
specifically there was a trigger

1687
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,960
both here and in the books. 
The dunk was called away in a 

1688
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,360
book. 
Someone said, hey, you need to 

1689
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,440
go see someone. 
He's a go and Lionel's ago. 

1690
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,080
Well, I'll do it. 
You go do that and hear the 

1691
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,480
horns Blue. 
And I want to bring that up 

1692
01:19:51,480 --> 01:19:55,320
specifically because when those 
horns go off, those deep horns, 

1693
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,840
my cats get so scared. 
Does anyone else have cats that 

1694
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,200
do this? 
Are all three of my cats Like 

1695
01:20:01,480 --> 01:20:04,920
their heads perk up, their ears 
go back, one or two of them will

1696
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,400
run into another room. 
They are freaked out by those 

1697
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:08,920
deep horns. 
I'd let me know if we. 

1698
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,360
Have that in here. 
Yeah, we did not have that. 

1699
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,280
I'd be curious, curious to know.
Can I mention something, Aziz, 

1700
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,960
that's kind of a a spoiler for 
something far in the future that

1701
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,160
may not be on screen ever, But I
I think it's OK to mention which

1702
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:28,320
is Lionel talking about 
bloodying up the Kingsguard in 

1703
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,320
their pretty wide gowns. 
I think it's some foreshadowing.

1704
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,160
You you might you might guess, 
right? 

1705
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,800
It might be, but George wrote 
that line in 1998. 

1706
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:37,960
Maybe he was thinking that far 
ahead. 

1707
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,120
It's possible. 
He might have been. 

1708
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,560
He might have been. 
He does think of these things. 

1709
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,880
Fruition again, right? 
Yeah, Lionel does fight Dunk 

1710
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,040
many years later in a trial by 
combat, and luckily, no, no one 

1711
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,960
dies. 
Dunk is the center, of course. 

1712
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:51,520
He's the main character. 
He's the POV. 

1713
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,440
We care about him quite a bit, 
certainly more than Aryan. 

1714
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,760
Aryan is the antagonist, but 
it's interesting how Aryan is 

1715
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:03,360
the antagonist for like 
everyone, even the people on his

1716
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:09,680
side, right, Like Robin Risling 
and Lionel Baratheon aren't that

1717
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,080
focused on Aryan in particular, 
but the rest of them are the 

1718
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,000
rest of the five in Dunk's group
there. 

1719
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,840
Sir Humphrey obviously cares 
because of his his personal 

1720
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,720
Beesbury. 
It's personal indirectly. 

1721
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,920
And the Kingsguard, like they 
don't want to do that. 

1722
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,680
Like that's not what they signed
up for. 

1723
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,680
Like, yeah, we want to protect 
the king, but from real enemies,

1724
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,560
not from this him doing this 
himself, from this as make our 

1725
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,880
put at this nonsense. 
And obviously Makar doesn't want

1726
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,640
to be there and Darren doesn't 
want to be there, but there was.

1727
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,520
Like a series of shots that I 
thought it was very telling in 

1728
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,600
which it shows, you know, Aryan 
and Makar arriving. 

1729
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,920
It shows the small folk. 
And then it shows, like, a 

1730
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,000
little kid watching him and 
like, just like the fear, like 

1731
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,120
Aryan looking at the little, 
little child, you know, And it 

1732
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:56,280
was really sinister and ominous 
and like, yeah, just just kind 

1733
01:21:56,440 --> 01:21:58,200
of scary. 
You know what? 

1734
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,200
That it almost reminds me of the
moment in Dunk's head when he's 

1735
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,760
as it remembers as a child, seen
Blood Raven. 

1736
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,720
Yeah, this little kid is going 
to remember the day that they 

1737
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,280
saw one Aryan and two, saw a 
whole lot of other that's. 

1738
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,200
A good point that's a that's a 
good cause a good parallel Sean 

1739
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,000
Yeah. 
So it's interesting too. 

1740
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,000
One of the clues that Aryan 
maybe didn't even think this 

1741
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,680
trial would happen. 
He thought Dunk would come up 

1742
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,880
short one because of the fossil 
way thing. 

1743
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,120
He thought he, you know, 
outmaneuvered him there 2 

1744
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:30,800
because he has his own some of 
the people he has on his own 

1745
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,200
side are not very good. 
Like he he's got dare on his own

1746
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:35,840
brother. 
Like he's already by including 

1747
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,480
his brother in this, he's 
including some of that's 

1748
01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:39,560
incompetent. 
So that's not a plus for him. 

1749
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,120
It's only an argument to help 
him get the whole trial to take 

1750
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,080
place. 
So either way, that's relevant. 

1751
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,040
Here's a yet nobody wants to be 
there except for maybe maybe 

1752
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:52,880
some of the audience were like, 
Oh yeah, these guys are going to

1753
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,200
kill each other. 
I want to see that. 

1754
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,640
Like people who came to see a 
joust, they're like, oh, they're

1755
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,600
going to do it for serious. 
But like no one with a personal 

1756
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,400
stake in this wants to be there 
except Aryan. 

1757
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:02,600
So it's it's really kind of 
funny. 

1758
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,400
There's even a couple more to 
add to the list. 

1759
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:09,280
By the way, of course, Aryan is 
an antagonist to Tensell and her

1760
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,640
whole puppetry crew. 
And are you believe to a a lot 

1761
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,000
of the people there, like you 
said, like, like they were threw

1762
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,040
a rock at his head when he, you 
know, killed or, you know, 

1763
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,040
killed Humphrey's horse and he 
disrupted the puppet show like, 

1764
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:28,480
but also both Lord Ashford and 
his daughter, this is kind of 

1765
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:31,440
ruining their whole celebration 
for her birthday. 

1766
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:34,200
You know, she's maybe this extra
exciting for her. 

1767
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:37,920
But Arian is going further to 
spoil it by bringing the fossil 

1768
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,120
weight to the other side. 
So now they can't even do the 

1769
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,000
freaking drawback combat. 
And I think that's part of why 

1770
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,800
Ashford when dunks like can I 
get him in? 

1771
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,360
And actually, yeah, definitely. 
Because if you can recruit 

1772
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,320
someone, that would be awesome. 
Because this would be a big let 

1773
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,240
down for my daughter if we don't
even have this, you know? 

1774
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,120
I also got to be afraid because 
he's like I if what if a royal 

1775
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,800
dies at my castle? 
Like I don't he really doesn't. 

1776
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,560
He doesn't. 
He doesn't want this. 

1777
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,320
I don't think I. 
Do love that they show us a shot

1778
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,040
of of little Gwen Ashford there 
who's having the the worst 

1779
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,920
birthday party ever. 
Yeah, she does not look happy. 

1780
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:13,560
It's almost like what she said 
was true. 

1781
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,560
She it almost came true. 
It war did not start over this, 

1782
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,480
but it did. 
The Suns being missing did 

1783
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,400
'cause a big drama, which is 
kind of what she was gossiping. 

1784
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,680
I kind of getting ahead of 
herself, but she was what you 

1785
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:27,960
wish for. 
Yeah, she was right. 

1786
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,360
Yeah. 
So what, what what people would 

1787
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:31,640
have to weigh here is kind of 
interesting. 

1788
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,480
Like if you're a knight in 
Stefan's place or thinking along

1789
01:24:35,480 --> 01:24:37,880
Stefan's lines, you're like, Oh,
yeah, there's a great chance for

1790
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,360
glory here, great chance to be 
sung about, to be written of. 

1791
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,320
On the other hand, you're going 
against the Targaryens. 

1792
01:24:44,440 --> 01:24:47,800
Stefan had a good line for that.
He's like dragon house, where 

1793
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,880
are their Dragons? 
So that he he had like an 

1794
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,200
argument ready for that to kind 
of downplay the danger of 

1795
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,200
there's still the royal house, 
like, yeah, they don't have 

1796
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,000
Dragons. 
They still have like more power 

1797
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,520
than anybody else. 
So yeah, which acknowledges how 

1798
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:02,640
powerful they were in the 1st 
place. 

1799
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,720
The the whole point. 
The royal house bribed Stefan. 

1800
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,720
That itself proves it, you know.
It got better armor than anyone 

1801
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,120
else. 
Yeah, they got cool armor. 

1802
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,600
They got very cool armor. 
So Stefan is trying to live up 

1803
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:15,840
to that, isn't he? 
He does. 

1804
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,600
His armor look good too. 
You're right. 

1805
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,160
It almost makes him look like 
the centrepiece. 

1806
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,000
He's the one guy in gold. 
He got three guys in black, 

1807
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,680
three guys in gold and one guy 
in gold or white and one guy in 

1808
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:24,960
gold. 
Like, yeah, I'm the man. 

1809
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,320
The apple is the centre. 
So yeah, Like who? 

1810
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,120
Who can bribe better than 
Royals? 

1811
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,040
Like, no one can bribe better 
than a royal, right? 

1812
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,840
They have the most to give away,
the most to offer. 

1813
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,040
Even their promises are worth a 
lot, like, which is what Stefan 

1814
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,960
got, which turned out to be an 
empty promise, most likely. 

1815
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,520
So it's not just that if you 
fight for dunk, you're making an

1816
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,720
enemy of the Royals. 
It's that if you fight for the 

1817
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,360
Royals, you get an opportunity. 
But of course, there's only this

1818
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,600
one slot. 
Only one person can fight with 

1819
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,400
them. 
So Stefan really, really seized 

1820
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,560
his opportunity there. 
One scene that didn't happen but

1821
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:59,440
I pretty sure it will happen the
the Commons just going mad for 

1822
01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:01,920
Dunk, just showing him their 
love and him not and being him 

1823
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,120
being surprised and then Seeley 
paid explaining it. 

1824
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,160
He says a knight. 
Who do they think I am? 

1825
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,040
A knight who remembered his 
vows, the Smith said. 

1826
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,440
I think. 
It's 1 of people's favorite 

1827
01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:13,040
lines in the series and I do 
think that people are pretty 

1828
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,800
upset and confused that it's not
there. 

1829
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,120
But I, I think we forget the the
again, the trial has not 

1830
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:23,400
officially started yet and they 
need to fluff for time in the 

1831
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:27,440
the next episode. 
And I think it could happen 

1832
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,320
probably just before the fight 
starts. 

1833
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,120
But I, I could even see a way 
they could write it in to happen

1834
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,000
to bolster dunk during it. 
You know what I mean? 

1835
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,400
But I I think more likely it 
happens just before it kicks 

1836
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,680
off. 
Yeah, I think it'll still happen

1837
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,480
for sure. 
Because remember, we got to get 

1838
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,560
the the whole bit where Baylor 
gets in a strategy about the 

1839
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,680
Lance's, you know, they're going
to have to go get equipped and 

1840
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,640
have a huddle up. 
And I bet the only count of the 

1841
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,880
crowd at that moment. 
Yeah, there's a shot in the 

1842
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,520
trailers of them throwing up 
Duncan Raymond are like, you're 

1843
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:57,840
like, Oh my God, we're about to 
do this. 

1844
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,640
Also, there will probably be, 
like Ishaya pointed out, I bet 

1845
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:04,120
we get some solid extended 
flashbacks because there's not 

1846
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,160
that like at this point in the 
book, there's only like 12 more 

1847
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,160
pages, you know what I mean? 
Like there's not much left in a 

1848
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:11,520
book. 
It's the second longest episode 

1849
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:12,880
too. 
Episode 5 will be so you're 

1850
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,000
totally right. 
And there are trailer shots that

1851
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,880
we've seen of flashback scenes 
that have not happened yet. 

1852
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,560
So yeah, it's it seems like 
boom, yeah. 

1853
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,640
Can I say you made me think of 
one other thing. 

1854
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,680
We're early when we were 
wondering about at what point 

1855
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,640
Stefan went switch sides or went
to Aryan or whatever it was. 

1856
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:33,320
I bet it was after Darren and 
Egg came in to tell him what was

1857
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,320
up. 
Or had he already left it? 

1858
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:36,880
That he had. 
Already left here. 

1859
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,520
He would still catch when he 
would realize, or maybe even 

1860
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,760
just figure on his own that 
it'll be Aryan. 

1861
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:47,040
His dad, Makar, his brother 
Darren, 3 Kingsguard. 

1862
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,920
That leaves one spot. 
I bet he just figured out 

1863
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,040
there's one spot I could be. 
Yeah. 

1864
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:53,560
You're you're that's a good 
theory. 

1865
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:54,680
Yeah, I think you're you're not 
wrong. 

1866
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,880
Are there no true nights among 
you? 

1867
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:03,680
Yet another iconic line that we 
were waiting on. 

1868
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,840
And, well, this one we got in 
the trailer. 

1869
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,840
So, you know, it's it's it 
wasn't exactly when we waited on

1870
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:10,520
it was really great. 
I mean, you waited on it in a 

1871
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,600
sense, in that this novel was 
written so long ago. 

1872
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,760
Could I say I should have 
grabbed the link for it? 

1873
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:18,520
But as part of the promo for the
season on the red carpet, they 

1874
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,720
had all the different, a bunch 
of the different cast and say 

1875
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,600
all but many of the different 
cast members do their own 

1876
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,840
rendition of Are there No True 
Nights Among You? 

1877
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,600
And they some of them do it in a
very comedic way. 

1878
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,320
They give it all kinds of 
different, you know, different 

1879
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,440
twangs and intonations. 
It's it's really good. 

1880
01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:36,840
I should have grabbed it and 
find it, but I'll, I'll put it 

1881
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,920
to the history of Westeros 
Instagram story. 

1882
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,560
How's that for y'all? 
If you follow us on Instagram at

1883
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,840
at the history of Westeros. 
But it's really, really funny, 

1884
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,080
including like they have Raymond
do it. 

1885
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:51,200
They have Aryan do it, Baylor, 
Peter Claffy Dunk. 

1886
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,520
He does another version of it 
that's actually like, very like,

1887
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,200
casual and really, he does a 
very funny rendition of it. 

1888
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,120
So yeah, keep an eye on that. 
But they've been promoting that 

1889
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:03,680
quote, that line, since before 
the season premiered. 

1890
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,840
Oh, they know true nights among 
you. 

1891
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,440
Oh. 
I love it. 

1892
01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:07,840
It's easy. 
Yeah. 

1893
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,720
We should all have to go around 
and do that. 

1894
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,640
Yeah, it's extra sad for Dunk 
because yeah, Sean, you, you 

1895
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,760
think about how you're going to 
say it because deep down he 

1896
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:22,400
knows that. 
Hey, I'm I'm not actually. 

1897
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,760
I wasn't actually even knighted,
and nobody else here isn't is 

1898
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,640
acting like a knight. 
It's one of the great parallels 

1899
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,840
to Brienne because Brienne also 
isn't a knight. 

1900
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,480
Well, until she is, but for all 
that time she's not. 

1901
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:34,760
But she acts more knightly than 
any other night we've ever seen.

1902
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,280
And until perhaps this guy who 
is a match, not necessarily 

1903
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:42,240
ahead of her, but equal. 
And think back what Aryan said. 

1904
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,960
The one of the first lines Aryan
says to Dunk is knighthood has 

1905
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:50,840
fallen on sad times. 
Yeah, you, Aryan, you're the sad

1906
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,520
times Dunk is. 
And this is exposed in this 

1907
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,960
moment. 
It's not the kind of thing Aryan

1908
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,680
was talking about. 
It's not the problem Aryan was 

1909
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,360
referring to. 
But Dunk asked for true Knights 

1910
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,920
to back him, and no one did. 
So tonight it has fallen on sad 

1911
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,320
times. 
And I think Baylor saw that. 

1912
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,720
He heard the laughing too, 
probably, which which reminds me

1913
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,480
of plenty of times when Brienne 
was mocked, but also when 

1914
01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:17,040
Barristan was fired. 
When Santa thinks about how sad 

1915
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,400
that must have been to have 
people that that he'd looked at,

1916
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,280
you know, where his his Co 
workers, Co workers, fellow 

1917
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,360
Kingsguard and his fellow 
brothers and all that. 

1918
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,520
So, yeah. 
And then when Autho stands up 

1919
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:31,080
and farts, it's like, well, 
we've they've been doing the 

1920
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:35,680
toilet humor all along. 
It was an efficient way to make 

1921
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,600
Dunk the butt of a the worst 
joke possible. 

1922
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,280
Like they're laughing at him 
over it's like it's just a silly

1923
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,920
thing to laugh at, but they're 
laughing so hard because the 

1924
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,800
idea of it, they're mocking 
Dunk, They're mocking this 

1925
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,720
notion. 
They're mocking the idea that 

1926
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:53,480
what Dunk did was right. 
It's it's a really bad thing to 

1927
01:30:53,480 --> 01:30:57,160
have happen. 
It's really just the, the it's 

1928
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,120
all the things this that the 
show and the novel we're 

1929
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,520
building up to are exposed here.
It's like, yeah, really. 

1930
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,520
Knighthood has fallen on sad 
times. 

1931
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,160
Yeah. 
So, Shea, you put red up there 

1932
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:06,680
on screen. 
That's a really important catch.

1933
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,720
So she's the one person not 
laughing. 

1934
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,480
Oh, look, that's Manfred right 
there in the corner in the left,

1935
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,840
left there. 
So she doesn't laugh, Tammy. 

1936
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,480
Tamik said. 
She's there probably, I guess, 

1937
01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:17,320
with him as part of his 
entourage, right? 

1938
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,840
That's why she because she's not
a noble, she's a sex worker 

1939
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,920
who's up there. 
She's dressed quite nicely, but 

1940
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,920
she still, you know, would not 
normally be up. 

1941
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:25,400
There, and she knows who Dunk 
is. 

1942
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,160
She's had those conversations 
with him. 

1943
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:28,760
She knows what's going on to a 
certain extent. 

1944
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,000
And she got a measure of his 
personality, too. 

1945
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,440
And so when Baylor comes in, she
smiles. 

1946
01:31:34,440 --> 01:31:36,600
So we get it, cuts back to her. 
And I thought that was nice. 

1947
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:40,760
We see a whole lot of of 
different pairings of houses and

1948
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,360
it's kind of fun to speculate on
who they might be I. 

1949
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,640
Think that's Blackwood these. 
Are Lannisters. 

1950
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:46,920
That's. 
My guess, don't. 

1951
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,360
That's the Gray Lion and and 
Tybo, you're totally right. 

1952
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,480
You're 100% right and. 
It's like 2 lion. 

1953
01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:53,320
That's that's what I think. 
I think it's just like. 

1954
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:54,520
How you? 
Picture a Lannister. 

1955
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:56,880
You're totally right. 
I don't know, but these two guys

1956
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:58,680
have like fish scale. 
They don't look they're not 

1957
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,800
Tully's, but there's some kind 
of of house that I guess would 

1958
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,520
be associated with fish. 
If you have any good ideas, I'm 

1959
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,040
curious about this house. 
They almost, I would have 

1960
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:09,640
thought, I thought they were 
related to the Tyrells. 

1961
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,480
I don't know. 
And then we see these two also. 

1962
01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:14,680
Love to hear your theories about
them. 

1963
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:16,960
Of course. 
I think the Brackens are spot 

1964
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,800
on. 
They really look like the other 

1965
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,800
Brackens we've seen in House of 
the Dragon with these kind of 

1966
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:25,440
broad faces, you know, so I 
really liked that. 

1967
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:27,800
And then we see Medgar Tully 
right here and we see the 

1968
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,520
Tully's because there he is with
his fish scales and his red hair

1969
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,680
and, and all of that. 
And they're kind of in a 

1970
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,360
Riverlander section, you might 
think, because he's next to the 

1971
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,720
Brackens as well. 
So they might be slightly 

1972
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,520
grouped like that, and so maybe 
those other two or other 

1973
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,240
Riverlander houses. 
OK. 

1974
01:32:43,480 --> 01:32:44,840
Yeah, that would make sense, 
yeah. 

1975
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,760
I just we love looking in at the
background and seeing what 

1976
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,560
houses are around. 
I'm hopeful that when we get the

1977
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:55,000
making of which they have been 
doing kind of they did episode 2

1978
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,640
and three together, they might 
do, you know, four and five 

1979
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,000
together. 
I'm hoping that we get a lot 

1980
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,800
more shots without the color 
grading of all of these 

1981
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,720
background characters. 
You know, I wanted to say 

1982
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,800
another thought here about how 
he's appealing, you know, that 

1983
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:12,080
this specifically this group 
he's appealing to are the 

1984
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,080
privileged people, right? 
The the common folk, the normal,

1985
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,760
regular poor or whatever people,
they're on the other side. 

1986
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,520
But he's appealing to the 
privileged people. 

1987
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,560
And in the same way the Aryan 
looks at Dunk and says, oh, 

1988
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:25,840
knighthood's falling on hard 
times. 

1989
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,080
He's judging knighthood by your 
appearance. 

1990
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,360
You don't look rich and fancy. 
You don't have nice armor. 

1991
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:36,320
You're a knight, just some dude.
How can you be a good knight? 

1992
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,080
It's really falling on hard 
times. 

1993
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:39,880
But that's not the measure of a 
good knight. 

1994
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,640
How you look and how fancy your 
armor is. 

1995
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,760
It's how high your integrity is 
in your honor, your vow and all 

1996
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,280
this other stuff. 
And it's interesting that these 

1997
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:52,200
people who are all privileged, 
they aren't as worried about 

1998
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,080
being true Knights as they are 
worried about staying in the 

1999
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,520
good graces of the king. 
You know, he's kind of 

2000
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:02,080
challenging the royal family 
here and they don't dare disrupt

2001
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,080
their privileged positions to do
the right thing. 

2002
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,480
And you even wonder if some of 
them in there was a kind of pan 

2003
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:10,280
through in a different facial 
expressions. 

2004
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,880
Some of them maybe feel a little
guilty or wonder if they should 

2005
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,920
do something. 
But Otho makes it easy. 

2006
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:18,080
He just farts and makes a joke 
of it and like, oh, OK, cool. 

2007
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,680
I'm still in the right crowd. 
I'm still, we get to make fun of

2008
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,480
the poor people. 
OK, yes, I'm still in the 

2009
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:25,600
privileged position. 
I'll just stay here and laugh 

2010
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:27,360
and not worry about doing the 
right thing. 

2011
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:30,400
And it's it's a kind of a sad 
commentary on knighthood, but 

2012
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,920
it's also kind of a sad 
commentary on society, even in 

2013
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:34,520
modern times. 
It's the way things go, you 

2014
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:35,440
know? 
And it's sad. 

2015
01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:39,360
Commentary on Brackens, as 
usual. 

2016
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:44,600
Yeah, So I well said, Sean, one 
other thing about here to just 

2017
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,120
to consider, you know, Aryan, 
there's a lot of evidence. 

2018
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,280
At least it's some evidence that
like several other Targaryens, 

2019
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,400
he got madder as he got older. 
He's not very. 

2020
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,600
He's not that old here. 
You know, we we mentioned that 

2021
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,400
earlier. 
He's obviously Finn Bennett is a

2022
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,800
lot older than the character, 
just like Peter Claffey is. 

2023
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,240
And we've all seen that a 
million times as actors playing 

2024
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,080
in their 20s, playing teenagers.
But that's a good change. 

2025
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,760
The tone a lot when they do that
because you know, it's dunks in 

2026
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,560
his early 20s here, whereas he's
like 17 in the book. 

2027
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:16,080
You know, he, he is only a 
handful of years older than egg 

2028
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,680
And so he it definitely changes 
a lot. 

2029
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,360
I I, I've mixed feelings about 
that of all the changes 

2030
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,120
actually, and that I feel like 
it does undercut some of it. 

2031
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:28,280
But I think Peter Clappy has a 
certain vulnerability to him 

2032
01:35:28,440 --> 01:35:31,200
that still makes him seem kind 
of like a, a cult, you know, 

2033
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,160
like, you know, like awkward, 
you know what I mean? 

2034
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:39,400
Whereas and I think Aryan has a 
certain teenage brat quality to 

2035
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:43,400
him even though he is not a 
teenager here, he's still. 

2036
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,440
You know, 20 or 20 something. 
Still have that teenage brat, 

2037
01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:47,520
yeah? 
He does, but that's my point is 

2038
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,560
like, I, I feel like at least 
they have the essence of like 

2039
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,280
they're, they're not full 
adults, you know? 

2040
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,120
There's something to that. 
Yeah. 

2041
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:56,960
And these guys are so privileged
that they, you know, they may 

2042
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,800
not grow up as fast even even 
when Makar is their father and 

2043
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,360
pushing them towards it. 
So one last point about Egg as 

2044
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:07,200
we move on to the final scene, 
he in a sense, if we look back 

2045
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:11,320
on him running away from Aryan 
and from his family, it's kind 

2046
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:13,800
of like how he's doing the 
Andahl thing too. 

2047
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:18,720
He runs away from his Valyrian 
heritage and in favor of 

2048
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:19,480
knighthood. 
He comes. 

2049
01:36:19,480 --> 01:36:23,760
It's like the Andahl's migrated 
over to Westeros and created 

2050
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,840
knighthood. 
Well, Egg ran away from his 

2051
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,680
Targaryen family and got a 
knight and became Squire. 

2052
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,800
You know, it's like a kind of a 
little microcosm of that. 

2053
01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:35,840
So I like that It's not just 
because, and he points that out,

2054
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,920
when he shaved his head, it 
wasn't just for disguise. 

2055
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,720
It was also to reject his 
brother and what he stands for. 

2056
01:36:42,440 --> 01:36:46,720
I was going to say, I also 
really liked the the shot of 

2057
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,360
Egg's reaction to Baylor 
joining. 

2058
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,000
You know, he's like, he's like 
seeing like a real heroic act. 

2059
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,440
You know, he's seeing a, a 
member of his family that he can

2060
01:36:56,440 --> 01:36:58,840
respect and idolize and all 
that. 

2061
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:02,040
And I, I thought it was, it was 
good acting on Dexter's part, 

2062
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,080
because he really does look 
moved and odd in this moment, 

2063
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:06,920
right? 
Well said. 

2064
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:11,200
All right, let's talk about the 
entrance of Prince Baylor. 

2065
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,000
Baylor the 7th, we can call him.
We talked a bit about this 

2066
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,080
before, you know, we talked 
about the expression on his face

2067
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,400
and and how that was really well
played and how it communicates 

2068
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:24,400
quite a few things. 
I would also add to that Baylor 

2069
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,040
may have been disappointed as 
well. 

2070
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,520
He may he may have been hearing,
he could probably hear Duncan 

2071
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,800
yelling and and are there no 
true Knights among you? 

2072
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,480
He's probably knew what that 
meant because he knows Dunk was 

2073
01:37:33,480 --> 01:37:36,640
looking for somebody. 
And it may have just made him 

2074
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:41,240
just like more both sad, but 
also more confident that he's 

2075
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:42,880
doing the right thing. 
He's like, yeah, this is 

2076
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:45,160
knighted, really. 
He would also realize at 

2077
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,560
knighthood as well on sad times.
And everybody looks at him as 

2078
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,440
the perfect knight. 
So he has to set the example. 

2079
01:37:50,440 --> 01:37:52,640
No, he's there's no better man 
to set that example. 

2080
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,720
And he sees that He's like, I 
can't pass on this opportunity 

2081
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,880
to set an example. 
It's also like his own virtue is

2082
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:02,600
pushing him. 
Remember back when Sir Arlen, he

2083
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,360
mentioned Sir Arlen? 
He's Sir Arlen told me you were 

2084
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:09,040
the soul of chivalry. 
You know, Makar has that 

2085
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,440
reaction. 
Makar's reaction here is really 

2086
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:15,080
interesting. 
He doesn't yell or get mad. 

2087
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,040
He's like, it's almost like he 
he's unhappy for sure, but it's 

2088
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,000
almost like he isn't entirely 
surprised. 

2089
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,840
He knows his brother, you know? 
Like he didn't see it coming, 

2090
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:25,680
but he's also not entirely 
surprised. 

2091
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:27,160
What do you all think about 
that? 

2092
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,840
What do you think about 
specifically about Makar here in

2093
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,880
this moment? 
I would say he's surprised, but 

2094
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,040
the fact and and and he puts up 
a little bit of an argument. 

2095
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,600
He's like, are you mad? 
But he doesn't. 

2096
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,400
But that's it. 
He doesn't put up an arm and 

2097
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,320
pass that. 
I think he kind of knows he's 

2098
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,560
doing the same thing. 
Makar doesn't really want to do 

2099
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,920
this, but he kind of has to. 
And he realized, yeah, Baylor 

2100
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:49,640
doesn't really want to do this, 
but he kind of has to. 

2101
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:51,920
Well, sad. 
Very succinct too. 

2102
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,280
Someone in the chat, Jillsville 
asked why doesn't his armor fit 

2103
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:59,160
right about Baylor. 
That is his son Valar's armor, 

2104
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:00,960
and so it does look awkward on 
him. 

2105
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,480
I do think it does look like 
it's a little fitting. 

2106
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:04,840
Yeah, it's a good detail. 
He's not. 

2107
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:05,600
Not supposed to be. 
Fit. 

2108
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,400
I like that you were able to 
tell that not knowing what was 

2109
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,080
supposed to be happening. 
Really, it looks awkward. 

2110
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:12,240
So yeah, they they did a good 
job with that. 

2111
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:17,160
Great catch. 
So again, maybe I've said this 

2112
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,160
enough, but I think that if 
Baylor let's this moment pass, 

2113
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,800
he's basically basically saying 
that Aryan's version of 

2114
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,320
Targaryen supremacy rule by 
fear, do whatever you want. 

2115
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,840
Knightly vows are for the lesser
folk. 

2116
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,920
He he just can't have that. 
He can't have that being 

2117
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,760
communicated. 
He wants to lead by example. 

2118
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:39,920
And it's that whole fear love 
dichotomy that people like Tywin

2119
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,880
and and Ned and others have 
talked about in the first novel 

2120
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,440
and show this is that he 
realizes it's coming down to 

2121
01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:50,840
that he needs his version. 
The example he sets is the one 

2122
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,640
that he wants promoted, the one 
that everyone hears about 

2123
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:55,080
afterwards. 
No matter what happens. 

2124
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,720
Obviously, like you said just 
before, Sean and Dunk isn't 

2125
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:01,320
thinking about any of that. 
Dunk is still just like what is 

2126
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,840
happening. 
I came here to maybe be in my 

2127
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,480
first tournament. 
And yeah, he doesn't have a 

2128
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:09,400
political mind. 
You know, he hasn't trained 

2129
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,160
these ways. 
He hasn't practiced thinking 

2130
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,360
along these lines. 
Even later, it's Egg who often 

2131
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,640
fills in these details for him 
and and acts as sort of his. 

2132
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,440
His stand in brain for matters 
like that anyway, but it is a 

2133
01:40:22,440 --> 01:40:24,320
major concern. 
It's it's a huge deal. 

2134
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:28,080
And and Baylor's character is 
the one who really brings that 

2135
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,200
out. 
And that's why we care about him

2136
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:33,080
so much is he's, while Duncan is
representing quite a bit, Baylor

2137
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:37,720
is a version of him that has way
more power to change things. 

2138
01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:39,800
So you like Dunk? 
We appreciate him. 

2139
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,600
We, we, we want him to, we root 
for him. 

2140
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,560
But until he becomes more famous
later, he doesn't have this kind

2141
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:46,720
of power. 
He can only affect the people 

2142
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:50,160
around him, which is a lot, but 
it's nothing like the heir to 

2143
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:54,480
the throne, right? 
So Darren's prophecy has a 

2144
01:40:54,480 --> 01:40:58,760
dragon falling on Dunk, and 
knighthood will fall on even 

2145
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,440
harder times when Baylor falls 
on Dunk. 

2146
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,960
The best knight in the realm 
going out Jillsville ask. 

2147
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:06,960
Is Steely Pate serving as a 
Squire there? 

2148
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:09,200
It looks like it. 
Yeah, and he does in the show. 

2149
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:10,760
He does in the book too. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2150
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,760
Well, in the book he is he to 
Raymond. 

2151
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:14,560
What does he survive? 
Service. 

2152
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:16,720
No, he helps dunk. 
He doesn't. 

2153
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,720
There's no mention. 
There's no mention of someone 

2154
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,080
helping Raymond. 
So maybe he did also. 

2155
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,200
It's just not mentioned. 
That's my theory here, is that 

2156
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,520
that's where he, like Raymond, 
has no one to help him. 

2157
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:28,960
That's why Steely Pate would 
stick around, is that he's, he's

2158
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,480
needed for that as well, right? 
It's a good point. 

2159
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,040
It's a good way to keep him on 
the field. 

2160
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,080
But yeah, it is. 
It is true in the book, but I, 

2161
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,320
I, I. 
It made me realize that Raymond 

2162
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:38,720
would not have anyone to help 
him. 

2163
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:40,800
Yeah, it's like we said at the 
beginning, but we were looking 

2164
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,200
at the first trailers like you 
can't tell that Egg is behind 

2165
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:44,120
him. 
You're like, that's not Egg 

2166
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:45,520
behind him. 
There's no way Egg could lift 

2167
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,880
that giant halberk and put it 
over his shoulders. 

2168
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,920
I'm like, oh, you're right. 
So it it's quite possibly steely

2169
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:54,120
Pate. 
Don't just got that armor and so

2170
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:58,440
might need some tips and clues 
about how it fits and fastens 

2171
01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:01,000
and egg might also. 
He could help egg out with that.

2172
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:05,440
Oh boy, can Aziz and I relate, 
Sean, Because we both have had 

2173
01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:10,680
different types of armor. 
Me as Oscar Tully, Aziz as 

2174
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,280
Geral. 
He had kind of, I don't know, 

2175
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:16,240
leather and clothing. 
But it's very complicated, let 

2176
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,920
me tell you. 
And it's so hot. 

2177
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:19,760
Yeah, Hot. 
Yeah. 

2178
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,560
Anyway, So I, I, I think that's 
a great point that Dunk would 

2179
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:26,200
need to be helped and instructed
in in how everything goes. 

2180
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,080
He doesn't know where. 
The straps go yeah, he said. 

2181
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:29,800
Basic things like that, like how
do I? 

2182
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:31,280
Where does his belt go where 
he's on? 

2183
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,120
The ground because he's so tall.
How can egg strap it on? 

2184
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,680
Yeah, yeah. 
Even if Egg was strong enough to

2185
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:39,920
do it all, he wouldn't 
necessarily be knowledgeable 

2186
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,360
enough. 
And and so pay is probably 

2187
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:44,840
around to help with that, but 
also would help Raymond or 

2188
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,200
anyone else who needed it. 
Yeah, I don't know what's more 

2189
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:48,800
unrealistic. 
And this isn't a Game of Thrones

2190
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:50,120
thing. 
It happens in a bajillion 

2191
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:51,880
different shows. 
And it has happened in Game of 

2192
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,840
Thrones, but also in a lot of 
other fantasy properties where 

2193
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,400
you just have this, you know, a 
knight kind of wandering around 

2194
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:58,760
by themselves. 
Like, well, how do you do 

2195
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,320
anything with your armor? 
Like, do you just keep it on all

2196
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,160
the time? 
It reminds me, it's, I don't 

2197
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:07,640
know if that's more. 
It's recently I've come to learn

2198
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,400
about another thing. 
It's unrealistic about a lot of 

2199
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,720
fantasy shows. 
And and this is a comedic thing 

2200
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:13,760
mostly. 
It's like, now that I have this 

2201
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:18,040
long hair, right? 
I could tell you that one night 

2202
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,280
in a hedge, if you have long 
hair, you're you're you're going

2203
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,560
to spend 3 hours brushing your 
hair. 

2204
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,600
Yeah. 
So you can understand why 

2205
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,080
someone like Dunk keeps his hair
short. 

2206
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:31,240
And you wonder why, like someone
like Aryan on the road, like, or

2207
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,040
like using the character I was 
playing when I dressed up as, as

2208
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:35,800
like the Witcher, like, that guy
sleeps outside. 

2209
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,320
Like, he needs magic to make his
hair look. 

2210
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:39,760
That's the only way I can 
explain it. 

2211
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:41,160
Same. 
Same way they can put their 

2212
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,280
armor on by themselves. 
Neither of those things are. 

2213
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,480
I, I think about that and I've 
made that many times that point 

2214
01:43:47,480 --> 01:43:52,240
about beards, like how, you 
know, trim and clean and even 

2215
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,200
when they're like, there's no 
electric razors, they probably 

2216
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,440
don't have mirrors or just out 
in the wilderness. 

2217
01:43:57,440 --> 01:44:00,000
How do they keep? 
And I, I, I give a little bit of

2218
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,480
a pass because they're from 
filmmaking. 

2219
01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:04,840
They got to make them look. 
They got to maintain continuity 

2220
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,280
from scene to scene. 
So they just trim it and make it

2221
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,880
look the same every time. 
But in reality, people would 

2222
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,760
look so much more disheveled and
unkempt. 

2223
01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:16,840
Even The Dirty, even the nobles 
would still Yeah, their hair and

2224
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:20,760
their beards are all too nice. 
OK, my little tiny little thing 

2225
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:24,160
that bothers me and media of all
sorts and I get why it happens. 

2226
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:28,320
And I'll say the show Norseman 
does a great spoof on this great

2227
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:31,360
roof on it, which is that you 
can't hear people that well. 

2228
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,360
People's voices aren't 
projecting really that well. 

2229
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,480
And Dunk's speech that there 
back down there, how many people

2230
01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:39,640
were like what? 
How you know what I mean? 

2231
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,280
Like what? 
How well they could hear that 

2232
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,480
two, Who could hear that the 
brood of Bracken even even 

2233
01:44:44,480 --> 01:44:45,480
farted. 
No one. 

2234
01:44:45,480 --> 01:44:46,640
No one. 
Hugely laughed. 

2235
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,240
Yeah, right. 
So like only the people around 

2236
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,760
him, they just, look, this guy 
stood up and did nothing is what

2237
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:53,360
most people would have thought. 
You know what I mean? 

2238
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,400
And I, I have to just put that 
out of my mind because media 

2239
01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:01,000
always, always just ignores that
they don't have like a megaphone

2240
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,120
to, to do this. 
And I do recommend on Netflix, 

2241
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:07,480
the show Norsemen, they have a, 
a great joke about like we're 

2242
01:45:07,480 --> 01:45:09,240
like, what? 
What was that? 

2243
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,880
It's very funny. 
About how you How do you tell 

2244
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:13,800
who's on your side when you're 
not wearing? 

2245
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:14,600
There's no art. 
There's. 

2246
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:16,480
No uniform? 
How do we know who's who? 

2247
01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:17,760
Do you know? 
Yeah. 

2248
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,520
You can recognize all the other 
thousand guys on our side, you 

2249
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,360
know, we're, we're not wearing 
uniforms. 

2250
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,320
We also got a good question here
that I just want to bring up, 

2251
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:30,160
which was Lady Ruskalin asks, 
where is Valor in the scene? 

2252
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,880
And I think they they very 
pointedly, even when they show 

2253
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,720
everyone on the day, if they 
never show Valor and they don't 

2254
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:39,120
show an empty space, he probably
wasn't up there right then. 

2255
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:42,480
They want to probably leave 
people to wonder if people are 

2256
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:44,920
guessing who it could be. 
They might guess get Baylor, 

2257
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:49,040
they might guess Valor. 
And he probably was out helping 

2258
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:50,880
his dad get into his arm. 
Yeah. 

2259
01:45:51,440 --> 01:45:53,680
Exactly. 
So that that's, that's where he 

2260
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,360
is. 
I would and I, I we probably see

2261
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:59,720
a shot of him now after this, 
but yeah, I think they, they 

2262
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:04,200
were pointedly not showing us 
the empty spots for Baylor or 

2263
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,000
Valor, even though they weren't.
There like they unlike when they

2264
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,840
wanted to make sure we knew 
Makar wasn't there, which is 

2265
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,000
different, yeah. 
Before we get too far past it 

2266
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:15,280
about the, you know, dunks voice
projecting, that is something in

2267
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:17,880
the Army you've probably seen in
some kind of movies or training 

2268
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,360
about how they're like seeing 
Cadence. 

2269
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,600
Did they March or run? 
You have to be a leaders have to

2270
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:26,760
be able to project their voice 
loudly, far, even when they're 

2271
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,920
exhausted because you got to 
shout out commands. 

2272
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,760
The battlefield is loud, you got
to talk to someone 100 yards 

2273
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,040
away or whatever. 
You need to be able to project 

2274
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:35,960
your voice. 
And it's a skill that you have 

2275
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,040
to develop. 
And it also reminds me of the 

2276
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:41,840
scene and the Life of Brian when
Jesus is on the hill, given a 

2277
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:44,720
speech and a camera pans out and
you see the people around the 

2278
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:45,960
hill. 
But it pans out and there's more

2279
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,000
and more people and eventually 
gets to Brian and these 

2280
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:48,840
characters. 
Like, what? 

2281
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:51,480
What did they say? 
What did the meat shell do? 

2282
01:46:51,480 --> 01:46:53,520
What inherit theirs? 
Oh, good for the meat. 

2283
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,480
You said blessed are the cheese 
makers. 

2284
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,320
Yeah. 
Good for the cheese makers, but 

2285
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,880
they're straining to hear 
because it's so far away and 

2286
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:04,240
Jesus isn't belting out with a 
projecting voice, you know? 

2287
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:06,840
So they got some humor out of 
that that concept too. 

2288
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,040
Yeah, I agree. 
And your your point about voices

2289
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:14,680
is actually in I think book 
three, Jon Snow thinks about how

2290
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:18,120
he grew up practicing with Rob 
yelling from one. 

2291
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,040
They would go each go up to a 
different tower and try to yell 

2292
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:21,160
at each other so they could hear
each other. 

2293
01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:23,360
And Ned Stark at one point 
thinks about how Robert 

2294
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,320
Barassian had a great 
battlefield voice. 

2295
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:29,280
His his roaring, his ability to 
roar was extremely effective. 

2296
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:32,240
So this is actually our last 
little bit. 

2297
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,360
One of the things I mentioned at
the beginning that's really 

2298
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,360
interesting is, is part of our 
experience. 

2299
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,800
People who've read the book 
already is seeing other people's

2300
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,080
reactions to it. 
And I really want to know, like,

2301
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:44,680
let us know. 
Tell us what does your family 

2302
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:45,800
think? 
Who are they worried about? 

2303
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,480
Like, I don't think anyone 
thinks Dunk is going to die, but

2304
01:47:48,480 --> 01:47:51,840
pretty much any of the other 13 
characters could die. 

2305
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:54,680
I don't know if anyone really 
cares that much about Sir Donald

2306
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:58,600
the Crabber's son dying. 
I think some people would want 

2307
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,960
Aryan and and Daron maybe to 
die. 

2308
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,400
Stefan almost certainly too. 
But I bet a lot of people are 

2309
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:08,040
worried about Raymond, maybe 
about Lionel I. 

2310
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:09,720
And I wonder how much our 
people. 

2311
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,120
I think people would worry about
Daron a little bit. 

2312
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:13,760
I think he's you. 
You underestimate that. 

2313
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,480
A lot of fans do like a dreamer 
in the Targaryen family. 

2314
01:48:17,480 --> 01:48:19,280
They are partial to that 
quality. 

2315
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,640
Casual fans, Yeah, I think 
casual. 

2316
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:26,920
Fans even, or a lot of House of 
the Dragon fans, I would say, 

2317
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:31,160
who've come over have become 
very partial to dreamers between

2318
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,920
that, that becoming that, that 
so president and Helena. 

2319
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,840
And I've seen a lot of like art 
of Helena and Deron. 

2320
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,640
I, I don't know, I, I, I would 
say some people care about 

2321
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,320
Deron. 
And also, but sticking on that 

2322
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:44,040
subject with Deron, I mean, he 
gave that prophecy that a dragon

2323
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:47,600
was dead, you know, and so like,
what do casual non book readers 

2324
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,840
think about that? 
That kind of says a Dragon's 

2325
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,400
going to die. 
So yeah, who are who are they 

2326
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:52,520
most worried? 
Are they worried about make or 

2327
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:54,680
are they worried about Baylor? 
Like, are people worried about 

2328
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:56,200
Baylor? 
Like they're so excited that he 

2329
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,880
came out? 
The one effect of of that 

2330
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,520
besides the surprise, the great 
moment. 

2331
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:06,360
Oh, and we we didn't even 
mention the excellent use of the

2332
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:08,880
theme song, the original theme. 
They redeemed it like they're 

2333
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,360
like, ah, we shat on the. 
Heroes theme, Yeah. 

2334
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:12,800
It was. 
That's the best use of that 

2335
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:14,680
theme song ever. 
It was really, really good. 

2336
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,080
Like well done. 
Our example of watching it was 

2337
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,400
Unsullied is the same people 
last week. 

2338
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:23,640
We watched it with who, who went
like, wait, he's a Targaryen who

2339
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:25,240
were very surprised. 
She went. 

2340
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,920
She went the Prince, it's the 
Prince, and she was very 

2341
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,840
enthused that that it was him 
and she didn't. 

2342
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,600
She was like, I couldn't have 
guessed it would have been him. 

2343
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:38,320
It was surprising to her and 
excited her a lot. 

2344
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,040
So I'm I'm kind of dreading 
watching the. 

2345
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:43,880
Next one will be all that 
excitement is going to get 

2346
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,840
snuffed out. 
I want to make another quick 

2347
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:51,880
point along this line, by the 
way, is that this is ostensibly 

2348
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:55,560
a fight to the death. 
Like I think a lot of people 

2349
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,000
watching aren't worried about 
any of these characters dying 

2350
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,880
because they don't realize 
that's what this is. 

2351
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:04,160
And and some of the details of 
this fight, that the rules or 

2352
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,480
how it's going to go down get 
talked about in the book that I 

2353
01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:08,480
expect to get brought up in the 
next episode. 

2354
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,440
But the ostensibly they're 
fighting to the death. 

2355
01:50:11,440 --> 01:50:17,160
I'm freaking, you know the 
mountain smashed the Vipers face

2356
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,200
in right? 
That was a trial by combat. 

2357
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:23,120
This is they're not just like 
jousting for fun or for even 

2358
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,200
ego. 
They're jousting for life. 

2359
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:28,200
Yep. 
Raymond brings it up, obviously 

2360
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,600
Raymond does, and I think even 
does Stefan reference it as 

2361
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,840
well, He says. 
This is nightly combat, so your 

2362
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,280
skin won't be at risk. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2363
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,600
But that's all. 
Like that's all in one scene 

2364
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:40,160
where Raymond. 
Says felt like banter between 

2365
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:43,480
them, like Stefan trying to put 
Raymond down, maybe Raymond 

2366
01:50:43,480 --> 01:50:46,000
doing a little bit the dunk, but
how much does Raymond really 

2367
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,200
know? 
But I I don't know if it's 

2368
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:51,600
really driven home. 
I I feel the same thing too. 

2369
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:55,280
Like the fear of dunk losing his
foot was more real in the book 

2370
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:56,720
because he could think about 
that. 

2371
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:57,120
You know what? 
I. 

2372
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:01,520
Mean it's hard to thought about.
Yeah, so. 

2373
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,040
And that's kind of an irony too,
like thinking about who's going 

2374
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:07,360
to die. 
None of the seven on Aryan side 

2375
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:12,360
die and only three people die 
total. 

2376
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:14,200
Bad day to be named Humphrey, 
OH. 

2377
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:16,360
My God, people died. 
I just like gives me so many 

2378
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:20,080
questions about about the faith 
of the seven and and what they 

2379
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,600
think. 
Come on, face of the seven you. 

2380
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,040
Know it's like it's kind of. 
Like a prophecy, it's always 

2381
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,440
this other piece of it that you 
that isn't good or isn't what 

2382
01:51:28,440 --> 01:51:29,920
you think or isn't what you 
want, you know? 

2383
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:34,560
Sure, he can win, but there's a 
cost to be paid, you know? 

2384
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:36,880
They're like, how dare you evoke
this? 

2385
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:40,120
Yeah. 
We're going to ruin it for you. 

2386
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:43,040
That's what's going to happen. 
You know the seven of our petty.

2387
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:47,120
Yeah, I mean, really, Aryan 
doesn't get any consequences 

2388
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:49,120
from this, right? 
Other than getting exiled, we're

2389
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,960
to lease the place where dragon.
My point is that he doesn't get 

2390
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:55,920
any consequences from the trial 
and from the faith of the seven 

2391
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,680
if they were thought to exist, 
which to me this is a great clue

2392
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:02,640
to me that they do not exist in 
my opinion, because nothing 

2393
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:05,680
happens to Aryan, who is the one
wrongfully invoking it. 

2394
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:07,920
And he's a Valyrian, not even an
and like there's many. 

2395
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:09,320
I mean, I guess he has and all 
blood. 

2396
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:13,640
But regardless, he if anyone's 
spitting on the face of the 

2397
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,800
faith of the Seven, it's Aryan 
right here, and he doesn't get 

2398
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,400
immediate consequences. 
No, and and in fact, had the 

2399
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:22,160
trial not happened, like there 
wouldn't have been a punishment 

2400
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:23,200
for him. 
That's another thing that kind 

2401
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:26,880
of just kind of gets lost in the
shuffle is had there been no 

2402
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:30,720
trial or if Dunk just been 
executed or something like that 

2403
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:32,520
or been punished by losing his 
foot in hand. 

2404
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,880
No, under none of those 
circumstances has anything 

2405
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:38,280
happened to Aryan except for 
maybe Makar, you know, privately

2406
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,120
punishing him, which might be 
pretty. 

2407
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,280
I mean, he does still. 
Publicly embarrassed, Severely 

2408
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,080
publicly embarrassed, and 
probably that's physically hurt 

2409
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,760
too. 
Dunk beats the crap out of him, 

2410
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:50,800
right? 
Also, can I point out one of my 

2411
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,320
favorite lines of the whole book
of all of all of Martin's 

2412
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:56,400
writings was when I don't know, 
maybe I shouldn't talk about 

2413
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:57,600
this too much because they'll be
next episode. 

2414
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,240
But when Baylor is, you know, 
kind of explaining his strategy 

2415
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,240
and there's a couple elements of
it that dunk questions is like, 

2416
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:07,240
is that honorable Sir? 
And Baylor says the gods will 

2417
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,880
let us know. 
Well, maybe that was the gods 

2418
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,880
letting him know. 
No, actually, Sean, it wasn't 

2419
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:16,480
Dunk who says that. 
It's I think that's, I think 

2420
01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:19,200
it's Lionel who says that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2421
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,520
And it's that's when Beesberry's
only line comes. 

2422
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,240
When he goes we will use like 
they're going to use 8 foot war 

2423
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:25,600
lances. 
Beesberry says we'll do the 

2424
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,240
same. 
He's like, Nope, we won't. 

2425
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,080
I truly hope all that is in 
there. 

2426
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,360
But me too, Yeah. 
So we'll see. 

2427
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,720
So yeah. 
Join us on on Friday, Amina 

2428
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:39,520
Shaya, for a quick 20 to 30 
minute preview of that episode. 

2429
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,640
We're going to pour over the 
trailer. 

2430
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:45,280
And there's usually always the 
stills from the episode are 

2431
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:48,280
released by that point, so we 
have a whole fresh crop of 

2432
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:52,240
stills to go over on Fridays, 
which is always great fun for 

2433
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,080
us. 
That's right, images and fun 

2434
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:57,560
stuff like that. 
So unless we have any final 

2435
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,920
questions or comments, we can 
move on to the outro here. 

2436
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:04,160
How did the poll go, Shay? 
What a what do people say about 

2437
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,320
the what do they think? 
Would Darren have allowed this 

2438
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,200
to even happen? 
Would he have put his foot down 

2439
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,480
his Darren, the good, his good 
foot? 

2440
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:13,840
Would he have done that? 
I'm very curious. 

2441
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:20,240
About that people, 68% say no, 
32% say yes. 

2442
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:23,400
And at the beginning of the 
chat, the, the, the comment 

2443
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:26,720
someone said was, well, he 
wasn't good and So what, what, 

2444
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:28,400
what? 
But what does that entail for 

2445
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:31,120
you? 
Is that, that he would be 

2446
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:35,760
obliged to say yes and follow 
honor or that he would say no 

2447
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,720
because he he knows better? 
I don't, I don't know. 

2448
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:40,880
Taylor might try to talk him 
into it for all the reasons we 

2449
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,640
described, the very many reasons
that Baylor decided to join. 

2450
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:45,760
He might try to convince his 
father of that. 

2451
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,280
So yeah. 
I don't know the character well 

2452
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:51,160
enough, so I'm I'm hesitant to 
speculate too much, but I'm 

2453
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:55,080
wondering if he might have just 
said no, we're not doing in 

2454
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:56,480
this, Aaron, you shouldn't have 
done that. 

2455
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,960
Go to your room, don't get back 
in the tournament. 

2456
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,760
He might have just Yeah, I like 
to stop. 

2457
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,440
All the whole. 
Process, you know? 

2458
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:03,920
Yeah. 
I'd like to think that he could 

2459
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:08,240
have stopped it, but I don't 
know if once someone has invoked

2460
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:12,200
the idea of a trial by combat or
trial of seven, whether they 

2461
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:13,160
can. 
But I think he could have 

2462
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:16,840
stopped it before it even got to
a trial by combat being invoked 

2463
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:20,520
at the point that Arian was 
like, well, why he you know, he 

2464
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:22,640
said this, this is treason and 
his Darren would have been like,

2465
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:24,680
no, stop. 
You know, you know what I mean. 

2466
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:26,760
So I. 
Think if he'd stop that as much 

2467
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:28,120
too. 
But I think if he'd, let's say, 

2468
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:32,040
arrived, I think if he had 
arrived after Aryan had called 

2469
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:35,520
for the trial of seven, I don't 
think he could stop it at that 

2470
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:37,280
point. 
But he's the king, and you know,

2471
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:40,080
laws can change and, you know, 
if he decides this is the time 

2472
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:43,480
to to change something, I think 
he still could, right? 

2473
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:46,680
That is his prerogative. 
This conversation reminds me of 

2474
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:51,400
a whole nother factor I forgot 
to bring up before 1 extremely 

2475
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:55,400
important dynamic that is hardly
discussed at at all anyone in 

2476
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,960
the show or us analyzing. 
I've never heard anyone talk 

2477
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,400
about the idea that, you know, 
if you wanted to lawyer this 

2478
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:04,160
out, that they have to do this 
at dawn the next day. 

2479
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,360
What if, what if Baylor was 
like, all right, trial by 7:00. 

2480
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:09,880
We'll do it five years from now,
everyone meet back up and we'll 

2481
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:11,280
have this stupid trial. 
You know what I mean? 

2482
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,920
That there are ways they could 
have like belayed this process 

2483
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:17,280
to give dunk time to get a crew 
together or to make Aryan. 

2484
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,480
They have a. 
Right to a speedy trial by 7. 

2485
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,120
Yeah, that's a good point. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2486
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,600
That's that's exactly what they 
have, a speedy trial. 

2487
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,680
You can't keep someone in. 
They could have kept him in 

2488
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:28,040
prisons for five years instead 
of giving him the trial by 

2489
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:31,080
combat, if they have that out, 
you know what I mean, I think. 

2490
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:33,600
They're probably not extreme 
like 5 years. 

2491
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:34,840
They could have given him a week
or two. 

2492
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,440
Yeah, you know what I mean. 
I would guess that they have 

2493
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,640
some stipulation that has to be 
within a certain amount of time,

2494
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,600
and you're right, it might be 
able to happen within a week. 

2495
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:44,760
What? 
Would be the point of waiting a 

2496
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,520
week though. 
Then he gets more. 

2497
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:48,640
Beautiful time to get a crew to.
Go to get a crew together. 

2498
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:50,840
OK, sure the idea is that, but 
then it. 

2499
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:53,200
Undermines the whole thing that 
if it's a good 'cause people 

2500
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,000
will fight for it. 
But how do you decide what's 

2501
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:55,760
enough time? 
Yeah. 

2502
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:57,360
Yeah, what is enough time? 
It's like what if? 

2503
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:58,960
There hadn't been a lot of 
people around, you know, it 

2504
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,040
seems. 
Like overnight it was in a 

2505
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:01,960
tournament, right? 
What if this is just a random 

2506
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:03,680
thing? 
What if even Aaron couldn't have

2507
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:05,200
got the people? 
Well, maybe Aaron could have. 

2508
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:08,360
Like, he wouldn't have a rave 
into the castle and Knight 

2509
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:10,520
King's knight right out there. 
But even that would have taken a

2510
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:13,200
few days at least. 
Also like when does the is the 

2511
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,160
trial of seven decided in the 
evening? 

2512
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:17,480
And it has to be be in the 
morning, or if it's decided in 

2513
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:21,200
the morning and you have a full 
24 hours, there's some leeway in

2514
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:22,760
there. 
Like it's not like it has to be 

2515
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:24,560
within 12 hours, you know what I
mean? 

2516
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:27,240
It's just like the next day that
they're able. 

2517
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:30,280
And I think this is what I will 
say, Sean, is that they're all 

2518
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:31,920
gathered here for an event, 
right? 

2519
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:36,400
This isn't meant to just go on 
for like a week necessarily. 

2520
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,320
Like how long is the tourney 
going to be? 

2521
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:41,800
So they have some impetus here 
that they wouldn't have if they 

2522
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:43,360
were just in King's Landing, 
right? 

2523
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,440
You know what I mean? 
Like everyone's gathered here 

2524
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:48,400
and has travelled and is staying
with Lord Ashford. 

2525
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,080
So there's a little bit of an 
impetus. 

2526
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:51,680
Ashford. 
Doesn't want it to be extended. 

2527
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:52,840
Yeah, that's. 
Exactly my point. 

2528
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:55,320
He doesn't want it to be 
extended or he'll be even more 

2529
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:57,800
poorer and and and in debt and 
all that he. 

2530
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,760
Needs even more tournaments. 
He needs to get betting 

2531
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:01,800
happening so he can make his 
money. 

2532
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,080
It doesn't make sense from like 
as as storytelling, 

2533
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:09,880
entertainment purpose to have it
happen sooner than later. 

2534
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:13,640
But still, I think dunk was 
given less than 12 hours. 

2535
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:17,720
Like it was night time when Arie
broke her finger and it dawned 

2536
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:19,080
the next day that you know what 
I mean? 

2537
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:22,360
Like it's, I feel like it's 
unreasonable to expect him to 

2538
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:23,840
get a team together that 
quickly. 

2539
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:26,840
I think it was AI think it was a
whole a whole day in between, 

2540
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:29,920
but either way that's too fast. 
Yeah, maybe he sat in jail and. 

2541
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,320
It's not too fast because 
there's a magillion Knights 

2542
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:34,560
around and that this is the one 
time where I don't. 

2543
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,000
Either way, it's a it's a moot 
point. 

2544
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:37,680
We don't want to deliver. 
It's all insane. 

2545
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:40,640
Let's let's say goodbye 
everybody. 

2546
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:42,600
Hopefully you'll join us on 
Friday for the preview episode. 

2547
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:45,920
If not, we will see you next 
Monday for sadness. 

2548
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:47,280
I don't know what we're calling 
it. 

2549
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,680
The episode is called In the 
Name of the Mother and we will 

2550
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,760
be at our usual time of 6 to 
discuss it. 

2551
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,200
All three of us. 
So we hope you all have a great 

2552
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,480
week. 
Come back to us with stories 

2553
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:01,520
from your family and friends. 
We want to hear how everybody 

2554
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,400
reacted to this week and next 
week. 

2555
01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:07,160
A full story of both the 
beginning of their love for 

2556
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:09,640
Baylor and then their sadness. 
We could we get we can get old 

2557
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:13,440
sagas from y'all entirely. 
Can I say one thing just really 

2558
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:14,720
briefly that we didn't talk 
about? 

2559
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:16,320
I had it on screen. 
People talked about it in the 

2560
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:18,000
chat. 
I would feel silly if I didn't 

2561
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:20,680
mention it. 
They gave Baylor heterochromia 

2562
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:24,560
to match his son Valar, and you 
do see it more clearly on screen

2563
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:26,400
in this episode. 
I'm sure all of you have 

2564
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,640
noticed, but I I would feel 
silly if I didn't even mention 

2565
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,920
that that, that they did that. 
How cool is that? 

2566
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:34,400
Right. 
Yeah, it's, I think, I think 

2567
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:37,320
it's, it's like the Valar having
the silver streak that we didn't

2568
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,280
even realize he had it, but he 
does have it. 

2569
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:42,400
Yeah, I didn't notice it, but 
first and then once it got 

2570
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:43,960
pointed out I can't not notice 
it. 

2571
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:46,880
So like isn't. 
That the first place does fall 

2572
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,200
in that category. 
All right, everybody, thanks to 

2573
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,840
Bran for our great video intro. 
Thanks to everybody who came to 

2574
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:55,080
hang out with us Live Today. 
Also have a note if you Eagle 

2575
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:58,560
Eye viewers will note that our 
video intro outro is slightly 

2576
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,880
changed. 
Bran has iterated on it and I 

2577
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:04,280
think we'll have one more slight
variant at the end of the 

2578
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:07,120
season. 
He added all of the Shields of 

2579
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:10,160
the the people on Dunk's side 
and the seven. 

2580
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:14,000
So make sure you pay close 
attention to the to the outro as

2581
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,760
we play it. 
If you haven't reread The Hedge 

2582
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:18,880
Night, well, this might be a 
good time to do it. 

2583
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:21,440
You could probably just do it in
a few hours and you're getting 

2584
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:23,360
close to the end of the season. 
This would be a good time to 

2585
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:28,480
like recap in your own mind. 
And if not, well, listen to our 

2586
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:32,720
Valar rereadus of The Hedge 
Night, which is publishing every

2587
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:35,080
Thursday night. 
And we did that many years ago, 

2588
02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:37,280
and it's being put back to the 
top of our feed because it's 

2589
02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:39,200
rather relevant right now. 
I'd say. 

2590
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:43,280
Until next time, everybody. 
On behalf of Ashea and Sean 

2591
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:45,320
Valar, Rereadus.