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That the Brotherhood without 
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by Ned Stark is, but one of many
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Her seizure of Tyrion was met 
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atrocities across the 
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His goal in that was to lure. 
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because Ned Stark leads from the
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It was a predictable thing to 
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Ned and swap him for Tyrion and 
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commenters, peasants, and what 
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most of us on fire is focused on
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deprivation and suffering. 
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Come what they hoped for how 
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what's important to them. 
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society now while Taiwan and Rob
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on everybody else are fighting 
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commanders are fighting for 
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chief organization, helping them
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It was their army that did that.
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army and it was mostly commoners
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Nothing common about that. 
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and Brienne in particular with 
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edric, Dayne, Etc. 
Living like Outlaws can change a

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that this group and they're very
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the show, Even though some of 
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pretty solid, and the 
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something of a palette cleanser 
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better version, which will help 
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The Knights of the Hollow Hill, 

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the Forgotten Fellowship, the 
Brotherhood without banners, all

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that, all them and more on this 
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Hello, and welcome back 

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Big shout out to our good 
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Queen, Ally with one, L on 
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She was very big in, reminding 
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the late, great, Stephen Atwell,
and he has a lot to say about 

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the Brotherhood without banners 
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through of A Song of Ice and 
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the Without banners portion. 
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today. 
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So, let's remember Stephen and 
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Throne blogspot.org 
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Stop my head. 
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still many years later and will 
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able to add to it anymore. 
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We'll start with the trivia 
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which of these is not a member 
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Brotherhood without banners 
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He be nothing pelo. 
Trebla swampy, Meg. 

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She putting foot. 
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These names are crazy, right? 
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heck does that mean Merit or 
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like an offshoot of powder 
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Dawn Shield where he had 
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putting foot or powder foot, you
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you will have got this one, 
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Today, we have first mention, we
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the lightning Lord, we have, the
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The Outlaw Network battle at the
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and other spine. 
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departures and current members 
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That's How we'll finish with 
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That's our setup and I'm ready 
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So May the 4th be with you. 
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purpose where she remained quite
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elements and that's another 
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the many things that makes the 
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of Supernatural stuff. 
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lightsabers aren't there. 
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which makes them all the more 
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First mention. 
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With a quote from thoros and 
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thoros of mere declared, holy 
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our God, and to each other. 
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Tom seven strings plucked a 
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Hill. 
I told us these. 

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I wanted him to sing it for me 
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I was slightly singing like I'll
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cold hands or the three-eyed 
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don't have Banners at all and 
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later in the episode, the only 
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mentioned but they're both in 
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banners applied to this group, 
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Storm of Swords, but not in A 
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the Brotherhood without banners 
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members of we have a section on 
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for Crows in A Dance with 
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said in the intro the Knights of
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Fellowship. 
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They don't have a single name, 
they just have ideas about who 

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they are and men like Tom who 
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He comes up with these colorful 
phrases and some of the stick 

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because well they're colorful 
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They are outlaws now and have 
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known them. 
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Kingsmen given a lawful order by
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Ned Stark, it may have been an 
unwise order. 

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Nevertheless, it seems 
straightforward enough as far as

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that goes. 
Let's talk about that. 

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The mission came all the way 
back in a Game of Thrones very 

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early on quote. 
Lord, Barrett John derian. 

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You shall have the command as 
befits, your rank. the young 

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Lord with the red gold hair 
bowed, as you command Lord, at 

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ard Ned raised his voice. 
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the throne room in the name of 
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The first of his name, King of 
the end dolls and the Roy are in

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the first man, lord of the Seven
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Realm. 
By the word of eddard, of the 

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house Stark his hand. 
I charge you to ride to the 

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Westlands with all haste, to 
cross the red fork of the 

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Trident under the king's flag 
and their bring the king's 

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Justice to the false Knight 
Gregor, Clegane, and to all 

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those who share in his crimes. 
I denounced him and a taint him 

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and strip him of all Rank and 
titles of all lands and incomes 

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and holdings and do sentence him
to death. 

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May the gods take pity on his 
soul Now you all are experienced

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with this series but at the time
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Good guys, going to hunt bad, 
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Gregor we'd already seen his 
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We saw these charges late 
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straightforward, right? 
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like good guys versus bad guys, 
because Tywin and Gregor cast is

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evil right away and Ned was cast
as good. 

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So you think well, Ned is doing 
a thing. 

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It must be a good thing and it 
was the thing. 

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It's the problem wasn't that. 
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It was that he didn't handle the
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might not have seen coming all 
the tricks and and inversions 

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that did end up coming to pass. 
You might have guessed That sir 

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Gregor would kill. 
Lord, Barrett you might have 

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predicted that or predicted the 
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guessed Gregor would kill Eric 
twice. 

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That part is not very 
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mission and the target would 
wind up Undead. 

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Yeah. 
Barek and Gregor are both The 

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Walking Dead now. 
Well, bears and walking anymore,

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but he was for a while and 
Gregor still is so those are 

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entirely unpredictable from the 
point of which were entering 

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this. 
These subplots right? 

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That's wild. 
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this and demonstrative because 
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being done. 
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but this backfired horribly for 
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He didn't send Laura's Tyrell in
the group which virus chided him

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on. 
He's like, look, if you want, if

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you're gonna go after the 
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your side like position them to 
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no. 
I don't want to get mixed mix 

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all that together, you know, and
Laura is too eager, you know, I 

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don't want that. 
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ambushed. 
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might have been a problem, but 
they were ambushed anyway. 

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It wouldn't have made things 
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And of course he also didn't 
send Ellen Payne, who was the 

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king's Justice and he's like 
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something like a trust him. 
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had done them, it would have 
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easier. 
And it might have left them in a

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better position would Gregor and
Ty would have done what they did

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of wanted, to upset the 
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I think they were a lot of 
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Differently. 
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seen that coming, but one thing 
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coming, was announcing his 
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men out to go after Gregor. 
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They're coming Tywin, knows 
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So an ambush should have been 
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what happened. so, What will 
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bit too, just to think about how
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have a Brotherhood led by now, 
an undead woman Following being 

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led by an undead man. 
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undead false Knight Gregor still
out there. 

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He might still get put down 
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maybe you'll be sandor and their
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so there's like a three-way 
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obviously sandor is very 
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terms of their their stories and
their arcs and Sanders are 

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already have a deep connection 
to the Brotherhood and they 

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already have a deep connection 
to Greg or on their own because 

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he was their original Target. 
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His story is tied to Aria. 
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the Brotherhood. 
So there's another person, 

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another bit of connective tissue
between all these little 

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subplots. 
And of course they were the last

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people to see her before she 
escaped for. 

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So they they know Catlin by 
becoming their leader learned at

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her. 
Daughter was still alive and we 

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barely know anything about that 
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searching for her. 
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for these parts of the story are
later in the episode. 

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This is sort of an overview of 
some aspects of it but let's 

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tell the story from the start 
backing up to this order by net 

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and where it led to and the 
immediate aftermath This section

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is called King's Men. 
Here's the group as it was first

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created quote, Ned eased himself
slowly back onto the hard iron 

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seat of aegon's. 
Misshapen thrown his eyes, 

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searched the faces along the 
wall. 

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Lord Barrack he called out 
thoros of mirror. 

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Sarah, Gladden. 
Lord lothar. 

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The men named step forward one 
by one. 

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Each of you is to assemble 20 
men to bring my word to 

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Gregor's. 
Keep 20 of my own cars shall go 

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with you. 
Ultimately the perfect example 

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of the common folk caught up in 
the Game of Thrones, they don't 

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care who sits the throne. 
They do care about being 

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pillaged in worse, though, 
right? 

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And this is where that started. 
This is where Beric Who is a 

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good man is confronted, with 
that reality, something has a 

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lot of Highborn. 
People, never even really 

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experienced or know or take the 
time to learn about So Lord 

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Barrett didn't just carry out 
the order or try to carry out 

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here at the Spirit of the order.
The point was to bring Justice 

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to bring specifically Justice to
Gregor Clegane. and to help the 

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Justice was for the small Focus 
that he terrorized Taking it 

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back a bit farther. 
Right. 

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It was the order came from Tywin
but still they didn't know that 

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at the time they just see this 
false Knight doing false Knight 

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things and reacted to it needs. 
We should give Ned some credit 

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for this decision because his 
choice nearly out foxed Tywin. 

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He was again trying to lure Ned 
in to capture him, but Ned 

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actually. included Taiwan in his
declaration by saying, In the 

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quote, we read not just Gregory,
but all who share in his crime. 

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He's a Gregor and all shared his
crimes. 

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He doesn't name Tywin, but he's 
leaving the door open. 

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Because he expects that Tywin, 
probably did give that order, 

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but he doesn't have proof of 
that yet. 

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So Tywin would have had things 
gone differently, Ty would have 

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had to disavow Gregor's actions 
in order to perhaps avoid Civil 

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War. 
So they all had their own plans 

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there and they both kind of 
missed some of the nuances of 

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what the other was thinking. 
But let's get to the 

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Brotherhood. 
Under the lightning. 

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Lord, they've only had the two 
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And only one of them was 
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very long in that role. 
In fact, Barrack was not alive. 

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When they were the brother 
without banners, they became the

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Brotherhood without banners 
after this battle at the Mummers

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Ford that he died. 
His first death during So let's 

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hear from them on how it began 
from the lightning, Lord 

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himself. 
Speaking to sandor, Clegane 

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quote. 
When we left King's Landing, we 

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were men of Winterfell and Men 
of dairy and Men of blackhaven 

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Mallory, men and wild men. 
We were Knights and Squires and 

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men at Arms Lords and commoners 
bound together, only by our 

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purpose. 
The Voice came from the man 

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seated amongst the, where would 
Roots halfway up the wall? 

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Six score of us, set out to 
bring King's Justice to your 

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brother. 
The speaker was descending, the 

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tangle of steps toward the 
floor. 

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Now, there's an important follow
to that quote that will have 

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later but let's fill in what 
happens here with more detail as

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it happened at the time because 
he of course, is telling us what

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happened afterwards. 
This is what happened in the 

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moment at the Mummers Ford. 
Now, the first account we get is

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from Rob who tells Catlin about 
it, but it's almost humorous 

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because Rob doesn't actually 
know all the names properly. 

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He calls Barrack Derek for 
example, So let's skip that 

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quote. 
Will we get a quote from someone

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who's actually there. 
So their information is far, 

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more accurate, Rob's was 
secondhand with the wrong name 

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and everything. 
Harwin, the son of the master of

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horse of Winterfell. 
Relays, the story right here, 

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quote, Greg Gore was waiting for
us at the Mummers Ford with men,

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concealed on both Banks, as we 
crossed he fell upon us from 

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front and rear, I saw the 
mountains slay, Raymond Dairy, 

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with a single blow. 
So terrible, that, it took 

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Jerry's arm off at the elbow and
killed the horse beneath him 

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too. 
Glad and wild died there with 

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him and lured. 
Mallory was ridden down and 

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drowned we had liens on every 
side and I thought I was doomed 

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with the rest but Alan shouted 
commands and restored ordered to

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our ranks and those still a 
horse. 

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Rallied around thoros and cut 
our way free Six score, we'd 

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been that morning by dark. 
No more than two score were left

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and Lord Barrack was Gravely 
wounded. 

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Thoros drew, a foot of Lance 
from his chest that night and 

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poured, boiling wine into the 
hole it left. 

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An extra piece of detail, not 
included in the quote, is that 

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tywin's Army was not that far 
behind. 

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So Gregor's van was setting this
Ambush and tywin's army was 

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supposed to come up right behind
them. 

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Of course, that was bending on. 
Ned Stark being with the group 

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and he wasn't so taiwan's. 
Plans, may have changed in the 

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moment there, so Really, what a 
horrible thing. 

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They take six score men and they
were basically headed towards 

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Tyson's entire host that's like 
what had they not been ambushed?

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They would have blundered into 
something perhaps worse. 

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So they had little hope as as 
Harwin is telling Aria here. 

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and, In this desperate hour, a 
miracle heard. 

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If I'm exaggerating it's not by 
much the men involved with, 

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certainly see it as such. 
Yeah, this is a world where 

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Supernatural things happen, but 
none of them had ever seen 

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someone raised from the dead. 
Barrack was raised from the dead

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in the battle. 
Like that's crazy or not in the 

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battle shortly after he rose, 
you know that night. 

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So, it's bizarre, like, you 
witness that and that, you know,

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that's crazy, you're not gonna 
even in a world where there's 

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Magic. 
This isn't Magic. 

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They've seen they haven't been 
around anything like this. 

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It's it's unbelievable. 
It's Gonna Change you. 

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It's like a religious experience
almost but Harwin when he's 

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telling Aria this, he evades, 
the miraculous part the 

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supernatural, he kind of glazes 
over it and that's really 

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interesting. 
Here's the rest of the quote 

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Every man of us was certain his 
lordship would be dead by 

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Daybreak, but thoros prayed with
him all night, beside the fire 

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and when Dawn came he was still 
alive and stronger than he'd 

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been, it was a fortnight before 
he could mount a horse but his 

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courage kept us strong. 
He told us that our war had not 

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ended at the Mummers Ford, but 
only begun there. 

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And that every man of ours, 
who'd Fallen would be Avenged 

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tenfold. 
Avenge tenfold. 

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Not Avenged Sevenfold. 
This is not a not a shout out to

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that band. 
Yeah, so that's interesting. 

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Like we know from characters 
like Lem who is simply in denial

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about Barrick being raised from 
the dead multiple times. 

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Like yep, borrows is a great 
healer and then yeah healer 

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sure. 
So Harwin might be that might be

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the case here rather than just 
talking around the subject 

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because he's speaking to Aria 
who was a 10 year old girl and 

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maybe doesn't want to try to 
throw that at her like yeah. 

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And then he got up again. 
Even though he should have been 

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dead. 
Like he just maybe just isn't 

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telling her that part of the 
story because she won't get it. 

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It's an important thing about a 
song by fires. 

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Yeah, we are all aware of 
unreliable narrators. 

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We also have to be aware of 
Unreliable receivers of 

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information because people lie 
to them, it happens a lot. 

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And cersei's chapter, for 
example, people, I just see a 

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lot and these a lot of these 
povs are children, so they don't

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things get not told to them 
because they're children. 

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So yeah, a hero rising from the 
dead to lead them. 

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You can see why he left that out
for the 10 year old. 

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Its mystical and unheard of and 
and even amongst the 

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Brotherhood, they probably don't
exactly know how to deal with it

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or think about it or talk about 
it as people like lemur and 

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example. 
So of course they were no match 

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for an army down to two score 
men with an peculiar miraculous 

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00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:38,000
leader at the front, but they 
were still capable of doing harm

450
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,600
to the Lannisters. 
Even before we meet them on 

451
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,300
screen, other than seeing Burek 
in the throne room there. 

452
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:47,700
Well, before Arya encounters 
them, we hear about them from 

453
00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:51,100
Tywin in tyrion's POV who 
complains he says, yeah, 

454
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,800
American forces have been 
raiding. 

455
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,700
Our supply lines, So Tyrion, you
know, is caught up in that 

456
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:58,500
briefly and near the end of The 
Game of Thrones. 

457
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,700
This next section is called 
raiding the Lion's. 

458
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,700
Now under stoneheart, if we're 
looking for ahead, the 

459
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:10,200
Brotherhood is targeting phrase 
and Lannisters in particular, 

460
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,200
which yes there's a lot of 
difference between stone hearts 

461
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,100
leadership and Barracks, but 
that part's not that different 

462
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,800
because it was a Lannister man, 
sir Gregory. 

463
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,900
They were after in the first 
place and Lannister's who 

464
00:26:20,908 --> 00:26:23,400
ambushed them and then 
Lannister's who were ravaging 

465
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,700
the riverlands who their trying 
to save the Commerce from. 

466
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:28,100
So the answers have been in 
this, the whole way. 

467
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,200
And then the Red Wedding happens
in the Fraser kind of linked to 

468
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,100
the Lannisters in that regard. 
So it's well, now they're 

469
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:37,200
targeting these two houses and 
set of just the one, but at the 

470
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,300
start, it wasn't about vengeance
or anything personal, which it 

471
00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:44,000
absolutely is for stoneheart. 
It was about helping the king 

472
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,700
against what was clearly, a 
rebel Lord, in Taiwan Lannister 

473
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:48,600
and his false Knight Gregor 
game. 

474
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,600
That was the job. 
That was the deal. 

475
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,800
Now, Harwin tells Arya. 
How their whole everything 

476
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,100
changed. 
They went out there as Kingsmen 

477
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:02,400
and became Outlaws. without any 
action of their own, it just 

478
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,500
happened, quote, Only then we 
heard that Robert was dead and 

479
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:10,500
Lord had art as well and Cersei 
Lannister's. 

480
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:12,200
Well, pet ascended, the iron 
throne. 

481
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,600
That turned the whole world on 
its head. 

482
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,500
We'd been sent out by the king's
hand to deal with Outlaws, you 

483
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:24,200
see. 
But now we were the Outlaws and 

484
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,000
Lord Tywin was the hand of the 
king. 

485
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:30,600
There was some wanted to yield 
then but Lord Barrack wouldn't 

486
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,800
hear of it. 
We were still King's Men, He 

487
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,700
said and these were the Kings 
people, the lions were savaging.

488
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:41,600
If we could not fight for 
Robert, we would fight for them 

489
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,600
until every man of us was dead 
and so we did. 

490
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,000
But as we fought something queer
happened. 

491
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:53,200
For every man, we lost two 
showed up to take his place. 

492
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,400
A few were nights or Squires of 
gentle birth. 

493
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,600
But most were common men. 
Feel hands, and Fiddlers and in 

494
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:08,300
keeps servants and shoemakers. 
Even two, septums, men of all 

495
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:12,200
sorts and women too children, 
dogs. 

496
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:16,400
Nina writes that harwins words 
to Aria show, how much his 

497
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,300
experience has changed 
traditional feudal. 

498
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:21,600
Thinking for him, the Mummers 
Ford saw the downfall of an 

499
00:28:21,608 --> 00:28:25,200
aristocratic leadership with 
Raymond, Dairy, glad and wild, 

500
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,600
and Lord, Mallory, all slain and
Barrack was killed too 

501
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,900
technically, but he came back, 
so Harwin and the Brotherhood 

502
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:35,000
faced a paradox, they'd been 
sent out by the king's hand, to 

503
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,500
bring Outlaws. 
But by the king's hand, and then

504
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:41,000
the new qingshan declared them 
outlaws like what do you 

505
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,100
supposed to do? 
So the answer to that Paradox 

506
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:47,500
according to Barrack was to 
Fulfill their original Mission. 

507
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:50,800
The spirit of the mission. 
As I said earlier, not just the 

508
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,200
letter, the law, maybe Gregor 
game is out of their reach now, 

509
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,500
but they still were there 
because of what Gregor did too 

510
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:59,000
small and those small poker 
still there and they can still 

511
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,500
be defended. 
In fact, they very much need it.

512
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,500
Their Kingsman here to protect 
the king's people. 

513
00:29:04,508 --> 00:29:10,800
It sounds so basic but it's not.
It's fairly radical in this 

514
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,900
world to us. 
It's like yeah protect the 

515
00:29:12,908 --> 00:29:14,300
people. 
These lives are important. 

516
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:16,700
Of course, you protect people. 
Life comes before, almost 

517
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:21,500
anything, if not anything. 
But Arya isn't are he's a good 

518
00:29:21,508 --> 00:29:22,800
girl. 
Like she's a good person. 

519
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,800
She hangs out with commenter. 
She doesn't have that snobbery. 

520
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,800
That's present among so many 
other people of her rank yet. 

521
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,300
She still sees this idea as a 
betrayal. 

522
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:36,100
She still disappointed. 
She gets it kind of, but she, 

523
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:38,300
when she saw her when she was 
like, hey, that's my father's, 

524
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:42,200
man. 
He will do what I need, he will 

525
00:29:42,208 --> 00:29:45,600
be on my side, it doesn't occur 
to Aria at first that he has 

526
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Taken on a new master, he is now
following the brother. 

527
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,300
He's no longer a sworn to the 
start and that's just blows 

528
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:54,400
Arias mine. 
It's, it makes sense kind of to 

529
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,700
her when she hears it but in the
moment it makes her sad and 

530
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:58,500
disappointed like, oh you're not
helping me. 

531
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:03,300
I'm your I'm being held for 
ransom by, you know, but you 

532
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:05,100
still kind of understands 
because they're helping people. 

533
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,900
So it's a real conundrum for 
her. 

534
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:10,500
It throws her world up a bit 
because she just is used to 

535
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,000
thinking that. 
Anything her father does is 

536
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,400
correct. 
And for some for someone to not 

537
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,600
work for her father anymore, 
someone to betray her father 

538
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,700
betray her father in finger 
quotes it just doesn't make 

539
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:23,900
sense to her even though on some
level she does understand. 

540
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:27,900
So it's a real interesting. 
Bit of writing by George. 

541
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:31,300
Where we see the these different
class struggles Through The Eyes

542
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:33,600
of someone that is still in 
their formative years. 

543
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,100
Someone that doesn't have a lot 
of the natural inclination to 

544
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,600
dislike. 
Commenters and is able to see 

545
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,300
both sides even though she's 
disappointed and feels betrayed.

546
00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:48,400
And but harwins ultimate message
here is that this aristocratic 

547
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,600
model just doesn't matter to him
anymore. 

548
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,600
It doesn't work anymore. 
He's seen how flawed it, is it 

549
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,400
how stupid it is? 
It's like, I was an out. 

550
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,600
I was a Kingsman and then I 
became an outlaw just like that.

551
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,500
Like, that's dumb. 
Like, I'm not doing this 

552
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,800
anymore, but it wasn't really 
that it was, that's part of it. 

553
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,200
But it's really just the being 
out there with these comments 

554
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,700
seeing their suffering and 
realizing that, this is where he

555
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:13,500
belongs and what he can do and 
that he's one of them. 

556
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,200
So yeah, the goal of bringing 
lines to Justice became 

557
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,800
protecting the commenters from 
Injustice is from lions. 

558
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,300
Eventually other problems arose 
and even Rob's men became his 

559
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:30,300
bad as the land. 
As in many cases not necessarily

560
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:32,600
the ones in his army because 
those were in the west, they 

561
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,800
were being awful to Western 
peasants instead of ones in the 

562
00:31:35,808 --> 00:31:38,200
riverlands. 
But the deserters Rob had 

563
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,900
deserters. 
They were Lannister deserves, 

564
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:43,000
every Army has deserters. 
Even the good armies, you know? 

565
00:31:43,008 --> 00:31:46,200
Usually car starts though right?
The car Stark man after the 

566
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,800
execution of Rickard karstark 
flooded, the riverlands looking 

567
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,200
for Jamie looking for and being 
awful all the way through. 

568
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:56,100
Killing people raping people 
just being as bad as the bloody 

569
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:58,500
Mummers in a lot of cases, or as
bad as Gregor or what have you. 

570
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:02,700
So it's at this phase of their 
existence, where we get a more 

571
00:32:02,708 --> 00:32:03,700
firsthand. 
Look at them. 

572
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:09,200
When we see them taken Arya, and
Gendry and hot pie, and Gendry 

573
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400
for good and hot by all kind of 
for good. 

574
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,600
He, he joins one of the 
brotherhood's Allies rather than

575
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,900
joining the Brotherhood 
directly, it was Gendry joins 

576
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:20,200
directly but that comes a bit 
later when they actually meet 

577
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,200
them. 
They have this conversation or 

578
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,400
rather they overhear, this 
conversation between Thomas 

579
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,500
Evans and got the Archer. 
It's pretty clever as well. 

580
00:32:28,508 --> 00:32:30,300
A little undercurrent here, 
let's hear it quote. 

581
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,400
Could be a wolf, maybe a lion. 
With four feet, you think or 

582
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,800
two? 
Make, no matter. 

583
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,500
Does it. 
And there you go. 

584
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:44,800
At one point, it did it did 
matter whether it was a wolf or 

585
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,600
a lion on two feet but if 
eventually does not because 

586
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,300
they're all enemies, they're all
dangerous by the latter stages 

587
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:56,300
of the war, neither side can be 
trusted because then he started 

588
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:57,900
in the riverlands is a Broken 
Man. 

589
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,600
A car is a, probably a car start
of a brigands. 

590
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,000
So, and any Lannisters well you 
have been able to trust them 

591
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,900
since the beginning. 
So it's very foreshadowing like 

592
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:11,200
this point in the war there is 
that difference but later on 

593
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,900
there isn't and this is very 
playful. 

594
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:17,800
They're trying to the end guy 
and Tom know that Arya and and 

595
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,900
hot pie and Gendry or hiding 
behind this wall and they're 

596
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:24,900
trying to be obvious to get a 
reaction and talking out loud 

597
00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:27,500
and saying things. 
But so it's meant, it's 

598
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:30,400
delivered, very playful, but it 
is actually got some depth to 

599
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,800
it. 
If you think about it, the Lamb,

600
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,600
of course is with them. 
He just doesn't talk as much. 

601
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,700
He's task to turn and grumpy, 
and he in particular is a 

602
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:41,200
microcosm of their decline. 
There's many ways you can look 

603
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,500
at this. 
But there's several of the 

604
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,100
characters you can look at and 
see how they start and where 

605
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:48,600
they end up and just the way 
they look and it's just to clear

606
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,200
sign of decline like thoros goes
from the man. 

607
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,400
He looks like to just run down 
and drag it. 

608
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,800
He loses weight, but people 
don't even recognize him 

609
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,700
anymore. 
Lambs. 

610
00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:00,800
The same way. 
His cloak is big and Broad and 

611
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,100
bright. 
But by the time we see him 

612
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,300
through Brian's POV, it's 
described. 

613
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,300
As its sodden and filthy his 
nose has been broken by Aria. 

614
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:12,500
He's you know, it's he's wearing
hounds Helm, they all look 

615
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,600
different. 
Here, Arya thinks he's big with 

616
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,100
the quote look of a soldier. 
He doesn't have the look of a 

617
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:21,199
soldier anymore. 
He's still big, but he's wearing

618
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,900
the hounds Helm, and his, you 
know, being all muddy and dirty 

619
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:26,199
and gross. 
Like that doesn't look like a 

620
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,900
soldier anymore. 
I mean, yeah, he looks, he looks

621
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:32,100
like an outlaw. 
And this scene is telling 

622
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:35,500
because the Outlaws behave not 
like Outlaws. 

623
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:41,300
Singing talking out loud being 
very demonstrative and visible. 

624
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:43,699
That's not what Outlaws do. 
They're supposed to be sneaky 

625
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:46,199
and of, right. 
It's this is the opposite of 

626
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,600
stealthy and that's part of why 
they're doing it. 

627
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,400
Because they know there's these 
kids here, they're trying to You

628
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,699
know caudal trying to get them 
to convince them to come with 

629
00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:57,100
them, you know. 
So they can take their horses, 

630
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:00,600
which is what happens and they 
keep calling themselves. 

631
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,800
King's Men which, you know, that
is kind of their mission, right?

632
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,800
To distinguish himself from 
Outlaws and they do a little bit

633
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,700
of, maybe it's a light gas 
lighting were there. 

634
00:35:09,707 --> 00:35:14,500
They start to Imply that Arya 
and Gendry and hot pie. 

635
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,800
They're outlaws like, oh honest 
folk wouldn't hide behind a 

636
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,900
wall, you know. 
It was like, it must be Outlaws.

637
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,700
In fact, know you're the 
Outlaws. 

638
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:25,700
So just they're good. 
They're mostly good. 

639
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:28,000
But there's a more ambiguity is 
present right away, right? 

640
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,100
They accuse Aria and And Friends
of stealing from a garden 

641
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:35,800
normally, stealing from a dead 
man's Garden in Wartime when 

642
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,700
you're starving is fine, right? 
That's acceptable behavior, but 

643
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:45,100
Thomas Evans knows, or claims to
know the farmer his family 

644
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,300
anyway because that farmers 
passed. 

645
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:50,000
He tells him hey this is farmer 
blanks land and you know I don't

646
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000
look like him so you're not his 
relatives. 

647
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,000
First of all, time could just be
spinning a yarn, he could not 

648
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
know them at all. 
He could just say that Aria 

649
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,100
won't know, she'll believe it. 
But yeah, I don't know. 

650
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,300
If he's telling the truth then 
the brother has probably been 

651
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:05,500
using this farm for a while, 
getting food off of it because 

652
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:08,700
they need food. 
And it might even be in fact, be

653
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:10,600
why they were there to get food 
from this particular Farm 

654
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,500
because they know about it. 
But if he's flying well, that 

655
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:16,800
that makes sense too because you
know, Tom would have reason to 

656
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,900
do that. so, this reflects the 
natural reality too of 

657
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:23,800
resistance groups, Living close 
to the population as many do. 

658
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,800
They have a personal connection 
and knowledge of the land. 

659
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,100
They're defending they are 
married into it or have families

660
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:30,600
with it. 
You know. 

661
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,400
They they're they act as 
Protectors of the place that 

662
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,200
they come from they're probably 
Defenders of the community and 

663
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,000
peace time as well. 
The types to stand up when 

664
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,700
something is threatening like 
you have a community meeting and

665
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:44,000
the ones who were like The 
loudest and most aggressive 

666
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,400
about defending the place or 
making sure things are good. 

667
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,200
The ones who like active 
security, things like that, the 

668
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,800
people who stand up within a 
community, when violence 

669
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,900
threatens basically. 
That's the the anger, the Tom 

670
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,200
The Lemmon cloak, that's who 
these guys are, probably at 

671
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,200
least some way, right? 
And that's why the people love 

672
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,400
them so much. 
That's what people will do 

673
00:37:03,408 --> 00:37:06,400
anything for them because 
they're And they're one in the 

674
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,300
same. 
They all come from the same 

675
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:08,100
group. 
They have the similar 

676
00:37:08,107 --> 00:37:09,800
backgrounds, they come from the 
same communities. 

677
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:13,300
Which leads us to our next 
section on this, which is 

678
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:16,300
perhaps their best Advantage 
disconnection to the common 

679
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:19,800
Folk. 
We're calling a section, The 

680
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,000
Outlaw Network. 
If they're going to be Outlaws, 

681
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,300
they had to learn how these 
aren't career Outlaws. 

682
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:30,400
These are Kingsmen that had to 
change who they were in order to

683
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,100
survive and to carry out their 
mission. 

684
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,300
So they had to learn how to be 
Outlaws. 

685
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:36,800
These were yeah, born and bred 
Outlaws right there. 

686
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,000
Like let's learn how to do this.
They started off by just 

687
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,700
understanding things, from basic
military perspective. 

688
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:45,400
Like Barrack is a Lord and a 
knight. 

689
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,900
He was trained in Warfare. 
He knows things like raiding and

690
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:53,100
live and things like that. 
Like nightly combat does include

691
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,300
some forms of raids and ambushes
and things like that. 

692
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:58,800
He would know those Basics, but 
he doesn't necessarily know, a 

693
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,200
whole lot of things about hiding
in the wilderness or getting 

694
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,200
supplies. 
When you're hunting living off 

695
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,700
the land Lords, don't 
necessarily have to do that. 

696
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:09,900
They have supplies and wealth 
and money, you know, there might

697
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,000
be some exceptions, but for 
them, I doubt America on Dairy 

698
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,300
and had ever like lived grimy. 
You know to use a common term, 

699
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:17,700
right? 
He did, he ever had to live in 

700
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:20,900
the forest without food until he
became an outlaw? 

701
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,600
But some of these commoners 
probably have gone through lean 

702
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,100
times, they have gone through 
periods without food or a few 

703
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:30,300
days or longer with very little 
to eat. 

704
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:36,000
So they bring that sort of 
toughness and you acceptance and

705
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,400
familiarity with this lifestyle 
to the table, which makes them 

706
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,800
all the more dangerous. 
They can actually teach the 

707
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Lords and Knights of the group 
how to do these things. 

708
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,000
Whereas in exchange the Lord's, 
in the knights, teach them sword

709
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,100
fighting and spear fighting and 
discipline and combat things, 

710
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,500
that they learned their 
education gets shared, it 

711
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,600
doesn't just a one way street, 
where the commoners take orders 

712
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,800
and just follow those commands 
and nothing else. 

713
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,700
No, this is a sharing. 
This is more communal. 

714
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:02,700
They're that the information is 
passing both ways. 

715
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:06,300
It's it's two Factor rather than
one directional. 

716
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:10,000
And because they're so few 
people out there like this 

717
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,600
because they're so few people 
helping the commoners. 

718
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,900
No one is standing up for them. 
Except the Brotherhood, that 

719
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:19,400
makes them all the more beloved 
and makes them all the more 

720
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,100
receiving of help from the 
common. 

721
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,200
Foes like yeah, I want to help 
the Brotherhood I want to do 

722
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,200
that. 
They're helping all of us. 

723
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,900
They're this this creates 
enormous amounts of loyalty 

724
00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:32,100
because there's No one else 
doing it. 

725
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:35,800
Harwin explains it to Aria when 
they're looking for Lord 

726
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,900
Barrack. 
She just doesn't get it. 

727
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:40,900
She doesn't understand a lot of 
this and it's very, it's great 

728
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:42,700
as a reader because we don't get
a lot of it either. 

729
00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:45,700
And so we are Aria. 
Aria is getting an explanation 

730
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:50,700
of things that we also need 
explain to us like this quote If

731
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,300
you're there men, why do they 
hide from you? 

732
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:55,900
Tom? 
Seven, strings, rolled his eyes 

733
00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:58,600
at that but Harwin gave her an 
answer. 

734
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,900
I wouldn't call it hiding Milady
but it's true. 

735
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:05,900
Lord Barrack moves about a lot 
and seldom lets on what his 

736
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:07,700
plans are. 
That way. 

737
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:12,200
No one can betray him by. 
Now there must be hundreds of us

738
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,900
sworn to him maybe thousands but
it wouldn't do for us all to 

739
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:21,900
Trail along behind him. 
We'd eat the country bear or get

740
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:24,100
butchered in a battle by some 
bigger host. 

741
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,200
The way we are scattered and 
little bands. 

742
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,500
We can strike in a dozen places 
at once and be off somewhere 

743
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:35,100
else before they know. 
And when one of us is caught and

744
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:38,900
put to the question, well, we 
can't tell them where to find 

745
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:41,500
Lord Barrack no matter what they
do to us. 

746
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:45,700
So not even, they not even a 
single one of them, not a, one 

747
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:49,300
of them knows all the allies and
hiding places that the group 

748
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:52,700
has, there is an a single person
that could draw an 

749
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:55,800
organizational tree that could 
list all of their resources, all

750
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,300
of their allies. 
But it's interesting to hear 

751
00:40:58,308 --> 00:41:00,600
those numbers. 
It could be thousands, we 

752
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,800
haven't seen that organized, 
maybe it will at some point. 

753
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,600
Could we see, maybe a big 
rallying of commoners at some 

754
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,300
point? 
I have an idea to for you all in

755
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,200
the latter. 
Part of this episode. 

756
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,800
The answer is maybe strong, 
Maybe Just a few examples, Stony

757
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,900
cept, the end of the kneeling, 
man. 

758
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:21,300
The crossroads in the, the 
septum at Sally dance, these are

759
00:41:21,308 --> 00:41:24,000
all allies, they have acquired 
along the way and some of these 

760
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,400
might fly by without you 
realizing the significance of 

761
00:41:27,408 --> 00:41:30,700
some of these allies. 
First of all, getting support 

762
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:34,000
from Nobles is a big deal by 
itself, but support from the 

763
00:41:34,008 --> 00:41:36,400
faithful septums, that's 
interesting. 

764
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,800
Because these are lolis, they're
openly trumpeting lore. 

765
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,300
They are sworn to reward. 
Their Knighthood depends on 

766
00:41:43,308 --> 00:41:45,400
role. 
Their leader is resurrected by 

767
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,600
the Lord thoros is a realist. 
So, septums joining them, that 

768
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,700
means they value the 
brotherhood's actions goals and 

769
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:59,000
ideology. 
More than they dislike. 

770
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,900
This religious difference. 
So there's this is part of what 

771
00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:06,600
I was saying earlier about the 
same way, that commoners and 

772
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,100
Lords work together in this 
environment where they wouldn't 

773
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,000
do. 
So elsewhere, is also the 

774
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,700
environment created here, that 
allows for this religious 

775
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:18,000
syncretism to happen like the 
seven. 

776
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,800
And Laura worshipers is not 
really a problem, right? 

777
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,700
This, this is the most 
successful Delores to outreach 

778
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:33,800
in Westeros period for us, was 
there to When Aries over didn't 

779
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,600
work, tried to win. 
Robert over didn't work made 

780
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,000
friends with the man but didn't 
get any new followers but as 

781
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,100
soon as he goes out on this 
Mission and resurrects, Beric 

782
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:45,400
valoris or like yeah, people 
like yeah, I follow her lore. 

783
00:42:45,408 --> 00:42:48,400
Yeah. 
There's never been more success.

784
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,700
The Brotherhood without banners 
is a single most successful 

785
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:53,200
example of Heroes Outreach in 
Westeros. 

786
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,000
It's crazy to think about that, 
but it's true. 

787
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,500
Stony step is on this list 
because well it's they have 

788
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:02,500
allies there but it's also 
important because it was where 

789
00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:06,200
Robert hit Robert breathy, their
Robert, the king's their kings 

790
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,400
men, he's the king, right? 
And it's an extra fun thing, 

791
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,600
because Robert as a rebel, which
they are now head in a spot, 

792
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,500
which is now, helping he's 
Rebels, don't accept helped 

793
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:20,600
Robert and now it's helping 
Roberts loyal Rebels money years

794
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,500
later, And Robert, of course, 
father, to Bella at during the 

795
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:29,300
battle of the Bells during at 
the Battle of Stony, September 

796
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:31,900
during Stony septal there. 
And remember, there's that 

797
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:34,900
moment where Bella almost sleeps
with Gendry and they don't know 

798
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:42,200
that they're related and whoops,
so, Just a bunch of examples of 

799
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,900
places that are that the 
Brotherhood has allies in. 

800
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:47,800
And there's countless more that.
I mean, George couldn't possibly

801
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,500
list them all. 
Just as we couldn't name all the

802
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:51,100
Allies, we couldn't name all 
their locations Etc. 

803
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:55,400
Yeah, it's way too big for that.
If you others are Acorn Hall, 

804
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,200
that's where lady Smallwood 
lady. 

805
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,800
Revela Smallwood who was a swan 
by birth, their vassals of House

806
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,500
of ants, the lady of the leaves 
is a is a commoner but she's 

807
00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:07,700
kind of lives in a hidden 
village and this is a whole 

808
00:44:07,707 --> 00:44:12,000
interesting almost Tookie and 
esque set up their lord, light 

809
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,900
Chester is with them as well. 
Um indirectly they're maester 

810
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:17,100
his maester is communicating 
with them as well. 

811
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:21,200
So everywhere they go, there's 
helpers shelter supplies and 

812
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,100
supplies people that are going 
to give them information. 

813
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:26,800
They're going to be looking out 
for them and of course they even

814
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,100
have the supernatural, right? 
They they had thoros from the 

815
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,600
start. 
But thoris wasn't much of a red 

816
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,600
priest, right? 
He's just a drinker that could 

817
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,700
fight, you know, he doesn't 
really his roller stuff was 

818
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:39,700
mostly just preaching. 
He didn't really have powers, 

819
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:43,800
but now he does now, he's 
sometimes he is reading the 

820
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,700
Flames now, and of course, he's 
resurrected Barack a bunch of 

821
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:49,400
times. 
So as the Brotherhood is evolved

822
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,900
and grown and some evil ocean, 
some Evolution there, but 

823
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:56,700
they've changed for sure. 
One thing they're much better at

824
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,400
now, is there is their tactics 
and their, just their basic 

825
00:44:59,408 --> 00:45:03,300
Outlaw lifestyle. 
They're much more proficient at 

826
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:04,100
it than they were when they 
started. 

827
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:06,400
Because as I said a minute ago, 
none of them started off as 

828
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,500
Outlaws. 
They weren't experienced in 

829
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:09,800
this. 
So over the several books time, 

830
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,200
they've gained valuable 
experience. 

831
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,100
But this is again to distinguish
them from any other Outlaw group

832
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,800
we've ever heard of but what 
other Outlook is used you know 

833
00:45:19,808 --> 00:45:23,000
prophecy and Flame reading and 
stuff like that to guide them, 

834
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,100
let alone having an undead 
leader that's just nothing like 

835
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:29,500
anything else. 
We have an example for So, the 

836
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:31,400
Brotherhood by shifting their 
focus from going after 

837
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,300
Lannister's to helping the 
common foe. 

838
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:37,300
And thus winning the Loyalty of 
the common, Focus became a 

839
00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:38,300
reciprocal relationship, you 
know? 

840
00:45:38,308 --> 00:45:41,900
It's we help you, you help us 
and that worked out great or 

841
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:44,900
continues to work out great. 
It's not working out as great 

842
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:48,300
anymore because of the change in
Focus, but at the time of 

843
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:52,800
Barracks leadership, It was 
working pretty well as far as an

844
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,400
arrangement. 
Sir Gregor sir. 

845
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,100
Emery and Vargo ho were out 
there and they were trying to 

846
00:45:58,107 --> 00:46:01,300
stop them, trying to anticipate 
them trying to give food to 

847
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:03,600
people who had been displaced by
them things like that. 

848
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,400
Now, those would have been there
three. 

849
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,300
Most Wanted surely, they would 
have wanted people like Tywin or

850
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:11,300
Jamie but early on in their 
existence with just 40 men and 

851
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:14,400
maybe some new recruits coming 
in the idea of capturing a Jamie

852
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,600
or a tie. 
When would have been kind of 

853
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,800
unreasonable little, did they 
know that they would be able to 

854
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,800
capture Jamie later a couple 
books later? 

855
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,400
But this isn't what I'm saying, 
like they had to learn and get 

856
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,200
experience and figure out how to
be Outlaws. 

857
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,100
They wouldn't have under 
barracked on Dairy in They were 

858
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,100
willing to take the hounds 
money, right? 

859
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:36,200
But he wouldn't have used 
Brienne as bait to lure. 

860
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,800
Jamie, that's not barracked on 
Dairy install. 

861
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,500
A special not after witnessing 
her bravery, at the end, killing

862
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:45,500
rogge, and taking her for wounds
from bitter doing what a night 

863
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:48,500
is supposed to do, stonehart, 
punishes her for that. 

864
00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:50,900
Well, not for that. 
But for her other quote-unquote 

865
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:53,400
crime that she perceives, Barron
would not have done. 

866
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,800
This Barrack would have been 
like, hey look what she did. 

867
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,000
That's great, she's doing the 
right thing. 

868
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,400
You want to join us, you know, 
like something like that. 

869
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,700
So you get to see this this 
Evolution or Devolution as I 

870
00:47:02,707 --> 00:47:05,500
say, From the way they behave, 
in the way they treat other 

871
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:09,000
people. 
And oh, it's a, it's a big 

872
00:47:09,008 --> 00:47:11,700
drop-off there, isn't it? 
So they had to think smaller 

873
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:14,600
when they were new at being 
Outlaws, they weren't as 

874
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,600
skilled, they didn't have as 
many options. 

875
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,200
They had to keep their Keep to 
within their means. 

876
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:21,600
Over time, they just got more 
ruthless and brutal as they 

877
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,600
figure out what their options 
were and I mean, they're a 

878
00:47:24,607 --> 00:47:25,900
little ugly from the start 
though. 

879
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:27,700
Right, think about this. 
This is I think something I 

880
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:30,800
think most people miss this Or 
missed both of these factors. 

881
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,400
I think a lot of you caught this
part which is that the Inn where

882
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,100
Arya and friends are brought to 
by Tom and Angel guy, and limb 

883
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:42,500
is the same in that Jaime and 
Brienne and Sir Cleo passed 

884
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:46,100
through the one where the owners
tried to direct them into an 

885
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:49,300
ambush, but Brianna and, and 
Jamie Smith out of doesn't, but 

886
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:51,400
sniff it out. 
They're like that. 

887
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200
I think we're being set up for 
an ambush here, now that seems 

888
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,900
fine right. 
Like what's wrong with them 

889
00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:57,100
doing that? 
What's wrong with setting up 

890
00:47:57,100 --> 00:48:00,000
some Lannisters to be ambushed. 
Problem is, they didn't know 

891
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,400
they were Lannisters. 
They didn't know. 

892
00:48:01,408 --> 00:48:02,600
That was Jamie had his head, 
shaved. 

893
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,500
They didn't, they don't know who
bran is. 

894
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:06,600
They don't know, sir. 
Cleo's, what none of them were. 

895
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,500
They were traveling Incognito. 
You might, we might say, heck, 

896
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:10,600
yeah. 
Those are clearly nights like 

897
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,500
that dude's really big but they 
didn't know who or what side. 

898
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:16,800
So and it didn't matter, they 
don't care what side it's on. 

899
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,800
That's the point here that I'm 
saying is these, these these 

900
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,400
ambushers were not really 
ambushing Lannister's only. 

901
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,900
They would Ambush anyone. 
That's what we learn in the fall

902
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:30,800
of anyone can be ambushed. 
Regular, folks. 

903
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,600
So, This element of the 
Brotherhood, right away is 

904
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,000
robbing regular folk to feed. 
Other regular Folk. 

905
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,100
They it's already a little gray,
right? 

906
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:46,000
They take Arias horses. 
And they give him an IOU, right?

907
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,700
It doesn't mean very much. 
Sorry, of course, doesn't even 

908
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:51,500
have that IOU anymore. 
I don't even know when she lost 

909
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:53,900
it is. 
This is morally ambiguous at 

910
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:55,100
best. 
They say they're better than the

911
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:56,900
Lannisters who was like, we 
would land users would have just

912
00:48:56,908 --> 00:48:58,000
taking your horse and give you 
nothing. 

913
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,500
They might have killed you true.
But that doesn't make this good.

914
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:05,000
It's less bad. 
Like in that bar was so low. 

915
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,000
You wouldn't trip over it. 
Arya had means of 

916
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,700
transportation, she's alone 
nearly alone, vulnerable but had

917
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:13,300
means of transportation, and 
they took that from her. 

918
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:15,900
That's yeah. 
Not being good, guys. 

919
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,800
Yes. 
A lot of the other things they 

920
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,800
do are good guys stuff, but 
these are humans in a George RR 

921
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,300
Martin story. 
They're not gonna be completely 

922
00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:29,800
good or completely bad, right? 
it's also sad, because In This 

923
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,000
Moment is a very subtle scene 
where and guys teaching Aria to 

924
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,800
wield a bow like she wants to 
learn that but she's not strong 

925
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,600
enough to pull it back. 
She's, you know, a little child.

926
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,900
She's bows are really heavy, you
know, to draw a bow and I got 

927
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:44,800
like, look, we'll get you a bow 
at River on, you know. 

928
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,000
Like we'll get you a small one 
that's made for your hand and 

929
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,200
she's like cool. 
And toms like now. 

930
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,300
We're not doing that. 
If we go to River Run with her, 

931
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:55,600
it's the ransom her. 
So it's like, hey guys. 

932
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,000
Instinct was to treat the child,
like a child, to be good, to 

933
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,500
her, to be friendly to be, you 
know, like kind of like an older

934
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:08,800
brother, you know, just be good,
be decent, but the reality of 

935
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,300
their situation is Outlaws. 
Trump's that. 

936
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,000
But and guys not thinking like 
an outlaw at this point, he's 

937
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,100
thinking like a good guy. 
He's like, no, we're Outlaws 

938
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:20,800
because we were forced into it. 
We're not like Outlaw Outlaws. 

939
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,300
Were Kingsmen Outlaws, right? 
So we're still good guys and so 

940
00:50:24,308 --> 00:50:26,900
they try to do good things. 
But the reality of their 

941
00:50:26,900 --> 00:50:30,300
situation, pushes them towards 
his morally, gray areas, or bad 

942
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:33,300
or just, not gray, just dark, 
you know. 

943
00:50:33,308 --> 00:50:37,000
So it's like I said, it's sad. 
Like, you want to see these 

944
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,300
friendships and these compassion
happen, but it's, there's a 

945
00:50:39,308 --> 00:50:41,900
barrier to just basic human 
decency here. 

946
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,000
On the other hand. 
Counter example. 

947
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,100
Let's look at the Brotherhood at
their absolute best. 

948
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:52,700
The battle at the burning 
separate. 

949
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:54,500
Yeah. 
George has a few battles with 

950
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:56,900
burning this and that we had the
battle of the burning Mill, you 

951
00:50:56,900 --> 00:50:59,200
know, and the dance of the 
Dragon is a battle at the 

952
00:50:59,207 --> 00:51:01,500
burning Steph Curry. 
A good example of the 

953
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:03,200
Brotherhood acting to defend the
commoners. 

954
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,400
Here is what we have it's when 
they assault. 

955
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,400
The bloody Mummers, the Mummers 
sacked a subtree inflicting 

956
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,600
atrocities as is there won't, 
but while they were still there,

957
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,000
you know, enjoying the stolen 
food and torturing the surviving

958
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,900
acceptance and all that the you 
know, stuff that they do. 

959
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:22,300
The Brotherhood attacked Perhaps
the most important undertone of 

960
00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:25,200
this battle, is that it is at 
the time, the best and the worst

961
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,000
of what's happening in the 
riverlands. 

962
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,500
The bloody Mummers are evil 
personified, causing Untold, 

963
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:32,900
unspeakable harm. 
There's no redeeming qualities 

964
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:37,600
about the whatsoever. while the 
Brotherhood are a Grassroots 

965
00:51:37,607 --> 00:51:42,300
effort to defend against such. 
There are the riverlands main 

966
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:44,300
defense against this and other 
things. 

967
00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:47,800
Now it also should be noted just
at this point, the bloody 

968
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,900
Mummers aren't even working for 
Taiwan anymore. 

969
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:52,600
This moment when this battle 
happens, they're working for 

970
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,700
Ruth. 
It doesn't even matter though. 

971
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:56,100
It doesn't change what they're 
doing. 

972
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,300
Why they're doing it, how they 
do it. 

973
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,500
Nothing at all. 
It's just evil. 

974
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:05,500
They're just attacking to for 
personal gain and greed and to 

975
00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:07,200
inflict harm because they enjoy 
it. 

976
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,400
The brave companion the brother 
without banners, I almost called

977
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,600
them to break companies, which 
is what we're does intentionally

978
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,400
to piss them off. 
I didn't mean it guys. 

979
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:22,100
The brave companions are 
assaulted here directly and the 

980
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:25,700
Brotherhood risks themselves 
directly in combat taking on 

981
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:31,100
risk of their own lives. 
To destroy a portion of the 

982
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:33,700
bloody Mummers to prevent them 
from inflicting future evil. 

983
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:38,300
It's an unambiguously good act. 
Now, of course, they didn't 

984
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:42,400
announce, they're coming with 
song like Tom did when they were

985
00:52:42,408 --> 00:52:44,300
approaching Aria, they didn't 
draw a battle. 

986
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:46,500
I know it was an ambush, they 
sneak attacked, they still, they

987
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:50,900
tried to do it in a way that 
would cause them their own side 

988
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:54,400
to take the fewest casualties. 
The attacked at night or rather,

989
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,900
it just before Dawn, they shot 
fire arrows, which wrist harming

990
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:02,600
the hostages, but it was a good 
calculated. 

991
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,700
This is a lot, like, Fiona 
shooting the guy that was 

992
00:53:05,707 --> 00:53:09,100
holding a knife to Brands neck. 
It was a rest, but it was a good

993
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:10,400
rest. 
It was a, you had to do 

994
00:53:10,408 --> 00:53:12,500
something. 
And if you just let that guy 

995
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:14,600
dictate, he was like, well, you 
have to kill the direwolves. 

996
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,000
You have to kill these people. 
It's like no better to take a 

997
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,900
chance and try to kill the man. 
Same thing here, the factory was

998
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:24,200
burned to the ground, but it 
would have been Really difficult

999
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,200
for them to enter the step to 
try to fight in the halls. 

1000
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,700
And the Mummers would killed a 
lot of them. 

1001
00:53:28,707 --> 00:53:32,000
Instead, they just lost one man.
Kyle the Archer who was 

1002
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,100
immediately Avenged by Limp. 
He also goes to show. 

1003
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:38,700
This battle, also displays just 
how amazing in battle Beric and 

1004
00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:40,000
thoros are with their flaming 
swords. 

1005
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:42,900
Barrack first of all knows, he 
can't really die. 

1006
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:45,800
So like his brain, he was 
already extremely Brave. 

1007
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,300
Now, he's like, well I can't 
die. 

1008
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:48,900
So I'm a brave man that can't be
killed. 

1009
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:51,800
So I'm going into this hardcore 
just right into the thick of it.

1010
00:53:51,808 --> 00:53:55,500
Thoro on the other hand is His 
is more of a matter of Faith. 

1011
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:58,700
He's also a very brave man when 
it comes to more to combat. 

1012
00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:02,000
But he's also believes this 
whole thing is Guided by Roar. 

1013
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,500
Everything that's happening was 
rewards. 

1014
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:08,900
Handler resurrected Barack. 
Thus thoros is going to stick 

1015
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:10,900
with Barack. 
That's Laura in action. 

1016
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:13,400
He's not going anywhere, but 
where Laura's work is happening 

1017
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,500
right in front of him so he's 
got that backing him. 

1018
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:19,500
He's like well I'm not gonna die
unless we're once me too and if 

1019
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,700
that's the case, that's if it's 
my time, then it's my time. 

1020
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:25,200
So he's got that sort of Bravery
going and Arya enjoyed watching 

1021
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,400
the battle. 
She likes seeing it, she likes 

1022
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,100
seeing the arrows, she just like
seeing the tactic and just 

1023
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,100
thought it was interesting. 
She took note of the Justice 

1024
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:36,700
given to the captured Mummers 
led by septum Hut who was a 

1025
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:39,800
horrible horrible, man. 
The September is a pedophile and

1026
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,700
and torturer just of dude, they 
hanged him. 

1027
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,300
And so I already took note of 
all this. 

1028
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:47,600
She was like, hmm. 
This is, this is how they're 

1029
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,500
doing it. 
She took kind of considered how 

1030
00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:52,800
her father would have a sum of 
this and the Justice part, a 

1031
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,700
specialty. and, It's so 
important. 

1032
00:54:55,700 --> 00:55:01,400
Here's an example. 
Of what sort of loyalty and 

1033
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,800
sentiment comes from people. 
When they hear about Deeds, like

1034
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,000
this that Barrack is doing on 
their behalf. 

1035
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:13,200
Here is a very telling quote, 
you swear, he's not dead, the 

1036
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,100
woman, clutched, Lems, arm bless
you learn. 

1037
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:18,700
That's the best Tidings. 
We've had in half a year. 

1038
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:22,700
May the warrior defend him and 
the Red Priest, too. 

1039
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,800
Of course, it's no surprise that
people hear rumors that Derek 

1040
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,900
has been killed because he was 
killed. 

1041
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:33,100
Six times. 
Those were true stories. 

1042
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:36,200
You're not supposed to go. 
Oh, how can we reconcile these? 

1043
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,200
Oh, resurrection that makes 
sense. 

1044
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,900
That's what makes like we heard.
He was dead and then he's 

1045
00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:44,900
walking around like how do you? 
They must have been lying. 

1046
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:47,000
Oh no, he did die. 
He was just raised from the 

1047
00:55:47,008 --> 00:55:49,000
dead. 
That's all makes sense. 

1048
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,200
Now, yeah. 
But this goes to show right? 

1049
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,300
How important the BWB special 
Barracks leadership at the 

1050
00:55:54,308 --> 00:55:56,100
front, the lightning Lord. 
He's such a symbol. 

1051
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:58,300
That's a very like, that's good 
marketing, right there. 

1052
00:55:58,300 --> 00:55:59,800
The lightning Lord. 
Right? 

1053
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,200
Like everybody likes that 
that's, that's that sounds cool.

1054
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,000
It sounds like, yeah, this guy's
defending us. 

1055
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,300
You never know where he's going 
to be lightning. 

1056
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:06,700
Never strikes. 
The same place twice. 

1057
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:09,700
It's it's comes. 
It goes quickly does its 

1058
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:10,700
business. 
You can't grab it. 

1059
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:11,900
You can't hold it. 
You can't capture it. 

1060
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:13,400
It's out. 
It's cool. 

1061
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,400
Like people are gonna like that.
They can, they can count on 

1062
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,400
that. 
They can hope for that. 

1063
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,400
There's reasons to buy in and 
his other reminder, the 

1064
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,500
syncretism here. 
What is she just say May the 

1065
00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:23,900
warrior defend him and the Red 
Priest too, people. 

1066
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:27,100
Regular commoners who have only 
ever worshiped the seven or all 

1067
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:30,300
of a sudden like yeah red 
priests Diego or like that's 

1068
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:32,900
crazy. 
These are people this place is 

1069
00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:38,600
been seven worshiping and just 
about that's it for eon's but 

1070
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,000
you show them some love, show 
them some loyalty, show them, 

1071
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,900
you're willing to die for them 
to protect them. 

1072
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,500
Yeah, we'll worship your God, 
too. 

1073
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:48,500
If you're going to do that, if 
you're going to, be that cool, 

1074
00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:53,200
that good, that honorable that 
Noble your goals, are our goals.

1075
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,300
Now, your beliefs are beliefs, 
like, if you're gonna lead, by 

1076
00:56:56,300 --> 00:56:57,800
example like that. 
Yeah, we'll follow. 

1077
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:04,100
And this moment, this attack of 
this, at the cept, the burning 

1078
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:06,500
of the step tree, and the 
Justice done after that is 

1079
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:10,100
exactly why Gendry joins. 
It was their behavior. 

1080
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:12,300
It was the example set by 
Barrack. 

1081
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:16,000
He specifically cites that he's 
like, I like how you save the 

1082
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,000
commoners. 
I like how you did Justice and 

1083
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,300
it's more than you think. 
It isn't just Justice that he's 

1084
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:24,800
doing. 
He's doing Justice for the 

1085
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,100
commoners coming up in a minute.
I'll explain what that means. 

1086
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:31,100
So it isn't just Barracks 
leadership. 

1087
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:34,700
Its that syncretism. 
It's how he's brought together 

1088
00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:36,000
or how they have brought 
together. 

1089
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,800
Distinct groups people that you 
usually don't operate together 

1090
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,100
at all. 
Astonishing level of Melting Pot

1091
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:46,000
ISM here. 
But it's not astonishing when 

1092
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,200
you realize that they're United 
by very basic human ideals of 

1093
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:55,400
Justice, right? 
To life and basic happiness, or 

1094
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,200
dignity. 
Right. 

1095
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,200
But once again George R Martin 
is realistic, not everyone 

1096
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,700
follows Barracks Justice. 
One example is the Mad Huntsman 

1097
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:07,600
a man. 
A member of the Brotherhood who 

1098
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,900
to use a modern term, he was 
radicalized by tywin's reverse. 

1099
00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:14,300
His wife was in sister were 
raped and murdered. 

1100
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:18,400
His farm was destroyed his and 
even killed his dogs. 

1101
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:24,900
So his only purpose to life is 
Revenge so he's not about 

1102
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:26,300
Justice. 
He's more of the stoneheart, 

1103
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:30,000
ilk, rather than the barracks he
was already acting on his own, 

1104
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,200
he was already remember what 
happened. 

1105
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,900
He's on a captured sand or clay 
game, and was gonna leave him in

1106
00:58:33,908 --> 00:58:36,800
a croquet and had left. 
Other people in Croc ages. 

1107
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,800
Until Tom and Angie guy and 
others. 

1108
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,400
Come on. 
Like that's not what Barrack 

1109
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,400
condones. 
Yo, let him out. 

1110
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,100
Like get those people out of the
crow cages and hang them 

1111
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:51,400
properly even while and guys 
saying that he laughs at the 

1112
00:58:51,408 --> 00:58:52,800
facts. 
Like yeah, Eric would give him a

1113
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,000
trial, then he would hang them. 
He's there, he's basically 

1114
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,700
meeting with their mock trials 
with their show trials. 

1115
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:00,100
Which is still better than no 
trial at all. 

1116
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:03,100
I mean, if, you know, they're 
guilty witness like like what's 

1117
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:06,500
everybody news, know those 
bloody Mummers were guilty as 

1118
00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:08,400
hell. 
I mean, their bloody Mummers, 

1119
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,200
they were caught red-handed A 
sacking the septic. 

1120
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,700
They were they still had the 
blood on their hands. 

1121
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:18,200
You know, you don't really need 
A show trial is fine and that's 

1122
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:24,200
about, you know, like everybody 
knows already. so, Let's move on

1123
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,100
to the next section, where a lot
of this Justice is done a lot of

1124
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:30,800
in one of their hideouts where 
the religious syncretism and 

1125
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,600
cultural, syncretism takes 
another step. 

1126
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Hollow Hill. 
The Knights of the Hollow Hill, 

1127
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,500
right? 
It's one of the more clever and 

1128
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:43,500
thematic hiding places because 
it's a cave, full of where would

1129
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:46,300
Roots, which gives it that sort 
of protected, but watched Vibe 

1130
00:59:46,300 --> 00:59:49,300
and aligns with the old gods 
lingering power. 

1131
00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:51,700
They already have a connection 
with the ghost of high heart so 

1132
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:55,800
you've got Laura ISM the seven 
and the where would stuff here 

1133
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,600
you get the old gods. 
Look at that, it's all of its 

1134
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,900
here together. 
It's super cool. 

1135
00:59:59,700 --> 01:00:03,500
Here's a description from 
Mario's perspective of what the 

1136
01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:06,400
inside of the cave looks like, 
quote, a huge fire. 

1137
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,400
Pit had been dug in the center 
of the earth and floor and its 

1138
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,300
Flames. 
Rose swirling and crackling 

1139
01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:15,600
toward the smoke stained 
ceiling. 

1140
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,000
The walls were equal parts. 
Stone and soil, with huge white 

1141
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,800
Roots, twisting through them 
like a thousand, slow pale 

1142
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,900
snake's. 
People were emerging from 

1143
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:31,700
between those roots. 
As she watched edging out from 

1144
01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:34,100
the shadows for a. 
Look at the captives. 

1145
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,600
Stepping from the mouths of 
pitch black tunnels popping out 

1146
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,500
of crannies and crevices on all 
sides. in one place on the far 

1147
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:48,600
side of the fire, the roots 
formed a kind of Stairway up to 

1148
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:53,200
a hollow in the Earth where a 
man sat almost lost in the 

1149
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:58,400
tangle of where would We hadn't 
seen blood Raven sitting on his 

1150
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,900
wear with thrown when the scene 
happened, but when it happens to

1151
01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:04,300
books later, it jumps back to 
this looking like, whoa, that is

1152
01:01:04,300 --> 01:01:08,100
a similar right down to the 
black cloak in the single eye, 

1153
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:11,800
which bare has not so similar. 
When you compare reward to the 

1154
01:01:11,808 --> 01:01:14,400
old gods but it's still the old 
gods Vibe here with the wear 

1155
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,100
with throne and then there's a 
trial by combat by definition a 

1156
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:20,600
religious event. 
It's normally nightly combat 

1157
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,500
which is a seventh thing but 
it's done under the auspices of 

1158
01:01:24,500 --> 01:01:26,500
lore. 
So can you just cool and 

1159
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:29,700
interesting? 
Mix of different religious 

1160
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:33,900
ideals and traits. 
So, and this, of course, all 

1161
01:01:33,900 --> 01:01:35,800
happens. 
Right before the Hound duals 

1162
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,000
Barrack Earlier in the episode, 
I said that there's only twice 

1163
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,800
where the phrase Brotherhood 
banners appears in the main 

1164
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,500
text. 
I gave you the first here's the 

1165
01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:49,700
second quote, but when the Hound
made to step toward his foe 

1166
01:01:49,700 --> 01:01:54,300
thoros of mirror, stopped him 
First, we pray. 

1167
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,600
He turned toward the fire and 
lifted his arms. 

1168
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:03,200
Lord of Light looked down upon 
us. all around the Cave, the 

1169
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,600
Brotherhood, without banners 
lifted their own voices in 

1170
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:11,800
response, Lord of Light, defend 
us so, as you can see, it was 

1171
01:02:11,808 --> 01:02:16,900
narrated that time rather than 
spoken Now, a bunch of dudes and

1172
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:19,700
dudettes praying to fire, is 
definitely gonna freak out the 

1173
01:02:19,700 --> 01:02:21,700
Hound. 
But he obviously handles 

1174
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:23,200
himself, well enough in the 
duel. 

1175
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,000
This brings us to a notable 
point. 

1176
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,900
This is where Eric finishes that
early or quote to sandor. 

1177
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:32,100
Remember he was describing the 
basic of the Brotherhood without

1178
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:36,200
banners the six score men and 
what they've become he at first 

1179
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,300
before, I bisected, the quote, 
he described what they were, but

1180
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:43,300
here's the follow-up, The 
Finisher where he describes what

1181
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:49,300
they are now quote, Six score 
brave, men and true led by a 

1182
01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:53,300
full in a starry cloth. 
A scarecrow of a man. 

1183
01:02:53,300 --> 01:02:58,200
He wore a ragged black cloak 
speckled with stars in an iron 

1184
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,800
breastplate dented by 100 
Battles. 

1185
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,500
A Thicket of red gold hair, hid 
most of his face. 

1186
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:09,400
Save for a bald spot above his 
left ear where his head had been

1187
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,900
smashed in. 
More than 80 of our company are 

1188
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:16,500
dead now but others have taken 
up the swords that fell from 

1189
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:20,300
their hands. 
When he reached the floor, The 

1190
01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:22,900
Outlaws moved aside to let him 
pass. 

1191
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,300
One of his eyes was gone, Aria 
saw the flesh about the sockets 

1192
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:32,900
scarred and puckered and he had 
a dark black ring all around his

1193
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:36,100
neck. 
With their help, we fight on as 

1194
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:39,500
best we can for Robert and the 
realm. 

1195
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:44,700
They have a better quality cut 
off one head and two more growth

1196
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:46,400
himself is different. 
Cut him down. 

1197
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,100
He just gets back up. 
As word spread that this group 

1198
01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:53,600
is about the commenters. 
Many were eager to help as we've

1199
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,400
seen a lot of that's just Word 
of Mouth. 

1200
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,300
Like the Brotherhood wouldn't 
have even gone to some of these 

1201
01:03:57,300 --> 01:03:59,400
places. 
But friends, tell, friends, tell

1202
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,200
neighbors, tell neighbors, and 
they're all eager to help 

1203
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,600
because it's again, it's just 
they've, they're so starved for 

1204
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,000
anyone to care about them and to
give them dignity and a chance 

1205
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,400
at life. 
It's a rare thing, super rare. 

1206
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,300
So the Brotherhood is constantly
in flux as their mission 

1207
01:04:14,300 --> 01:04:17,300
changes, their leadership 
changes their options change and

1208
01:04:17,300 --> 01:04:20,100
they're not done changing even. 
Now they're still changing even 

1209
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:22,700
where we've left things, where 
the books are at this moment. 

1210
01:04:22,707 --> 01:04:25,400
It's also really a brilliant 
challenge the concept of 

1211
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,100
Knighthood. 
Right, sandor. 

1212
01:04:28,100 --> 01:04:30,200
Hates Knighthood, because he 
thinks it's a lot of crap. 

1213
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,800
It's a lot of bull. 
But the Brotherhood gives him an

1214
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,300
alternative argument to 
Knighthood. 

1215
01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:40,200
It shows that it can be about 
character, not about class, not 

1216
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,900
about birth, but Merit sandor 
should accept that argument. 

1217
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:47,200
That's, that's a fair point. 
But he's just so bitter about 

1218
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,700
Knighthood to admit that bear 
has a has a good point there and

1219
01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:52,800
then that's a really interesting
debate. 

1220
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,500
They have Steven Atwell full 
credit to him. 

1221
01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:57,100
For this idea, I did not come up
with that one. 

1222
01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:01,600
That was a really good call 
that, it's a real before the 

1223
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,600
trial by combat of Swords. 
They have a war of words about 

1224
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,000
the concept of Knighthood and 
how sandor is, as a narrow view 

1225
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,300
of it, even though his trauma is
real and lived, He hasn't 

1226
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:15,700
considered just viewing Knight 
Hood in a different lens. 

1227
01:05:15,700 --> 01:05:19,300
Like these folks have So sandor 
mocks them, that's part of his 

1228
01:05:19,300 --> 01:05:22,200
defense and his defense 
mechanism generally is to mock 

1229
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,900
them while also saying he's like
them in that they're all guilty 

1230
01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:29,000
that they're all killers. 
Yeah, I'm a killer but so are 

1231
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,900
you, you know, he's like you're 
shit stinks as bad as mine Sansa

1232
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:34,700
Stark. 
Does this though? 

1233
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:39,200
Sansa's very presence. 
Threatens sandor's sense of 

1234
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,100
righteousness. 
She is the living embodiment 

1235
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:46,100
that he's wrong. 
That there is a reason to do 

1236
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:49,100
good in this world. 
He's terrified of that. 

1237
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:52,100
He's terrified of being wrong, 
because he doesn't want to admit

1238
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:56,700
that, he's lived his life a 
morally because he, if he, if he

1239
01:05:56,700 --> 01:06:01,600
has to face that he's lived and 
a moral life, when he actually 

1240
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,600
had a reason to be a good person
all along, I think he could just

1241
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:09,200
set aside his bitterness, he's 
terrified of realizing, he's 

1242
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,700
lived his life wrong all along. 
He's also desperate unloved 

1243
01:06:12,700 --> 01:06:15,100
broke. 
And hates and full of 

1244
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:18,500
self-loathing. 
So, he's terrified of of 

1245
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:22,300
confronting, that reality. 
He's far more afraid of that 

1246
01:06:22,300 --> 01:06:24,100
than of death. 
He's not afraid to die. 

1247
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:26,900
He's basically provoking them 
with his hands tied. 

1248
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:29,700
Yeah, go ahead and kill me. 
He he's not afraid of them at 

1249
01:06:29,700 --> 01:06:31,200
all. 
He is totally ready to die 

1250
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,600
because of how much he's 
suffering and hating himself. 

1251
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,500
And he's desperate to prove as 
well to them but also to himself

1252
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:40,000
that they're not better than 
him. 

1253
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,400
He's desperate to maintain that 
facade. 

1254
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,200
He's in denial because it's not 
really true. 

1255
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,000
They're not. 
He is he's not better than them.

1256
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,500
They are better. 
They are arguably better than 

1257
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:49,700
him and he doesn't want to face 
that. 

1258
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,300
He's legitimately surprised that
they serve King, Robert that 

1259
01:06:53,300 --> 01:06:54,200
just kind of throws him for a 
loop. 

1260
01:06:54,207 --> 01:06:56,300
He's like the dead King. 
Like what's that all about? 

1261
01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:59,300
He hates the pretense, he hates 
pretense. 

1262
01:06:59,300 --> 01:07:01,300
Just like he hates it on 
Knighthood and thinks the 

1263
01:07:01,300 --> 01:07:04,900
ribbons and the oils and all the
sacred stuff is just a bunch of 

1264
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:07,400
crap. 
He hates pretense and all that's

1265
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,400
forms. 
So he also just shreds the 

1266
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,700
argument. 
They aren't allows like yes, 

1267
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:12,400
you're Outlaws. 
Yes. 

1268
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,800
You're guilty of war crimes. 
He hates that they are in denial

1269
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,800
about that. 
He thinks it's hypocrisy. 

1270
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:22,500
He thinks that a perfect example
of their hypocrisy is, you want 

1271
01:07:22,500 --> 01:07:24,500
to blame people for what they've
done. 

1272
01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:27,400
You don't want to take 
responsibility for the harm that

1273
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,000
you cause, but you want to sit 
here and blame me for the for 

1274
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,200
what my brother did. 
I'm not Gregor. 

1275
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:37,000
I'm Clegane, but I'm not guilty 
of other Clegane crimes, and 

1276
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,900
this really makes him mad and 
it's a good point because, yeah,

1277
01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:45,000
it's not his fault, what Gregor 
did, but then Arya steps in and 

1278
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,300
says, Micah Micah, you killed 
Micah. 

1279
01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:50,300
That's a murder that's real, you
know. 

1280
01:07:50,300 --> 01:07:54,600
That's, you know, and sand it 
with this sander starts to lose 

1281
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,700
his moral High Ground because he
says, well, I was following 

1282
01:07:56,700 --> 01:08:00,600
orders. 
George was very deliberate with 

1283
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,300
that one, right? 
No one's gonna be like, oh yeah,

1284
01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:05,700
he was just following orders. 
That argument doesn't fly. 

1285
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:07,500
Come on. 
You were just following orders. 

1286
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:08,000
Yeah. 
Right. 

1287
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,500
That doesn't solve you at all 
and Berk is like, yeah, we were 

1288
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:13,900
following orders. 
The king's orders, right? 

1289
01:08:13,900 --> 01:08:17,500
And you gonna use that orders 
line on me, bro. 

1290
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:19,300
I got that. 
I can throw that right back in 

1291
01:08:19,300 --> 01:08:23,100
your face. 
So this whole thing it's super 

1292
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:24,800
interesting, right? 
But before they actually have 

1293
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,800
their duel, this are this. 
Duel of words is far more 

1294
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,600
interesting even though it's an 
amazing duel. 

1295
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,600
I'm like I'm not downplaying how
awesome. 

1296
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,100
It's probably, it's arguably 
better than the Red Viper vs 

1297
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:35,600
Gregor. 
It's super interesting. 

1298
01:08:36,500 --> 01:08:39,000
So it's also a culmination 
though of Barracks, new way of 

1299
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,800
doing Justice. 
His radical new Justice. 

1300
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,500
What's radical about it? 
What's different about trials 

1301
01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:47,500
and trials by combat. 
They're not supposed to be for 

1302
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:49,700
commenters. 
Trials and trials. 

1303
01:08:49,700 --> 01:08:53,200
By combat are for the nobility. 
Beric is extending the umbrella 

1304
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,500
of Justice to everyone. 
That's very radical. 

1305
01:08:56,500 --> 01:08:59,899
Sandor would never have been on 
trial for killing a peasant. 

1306
01:08:59,899 --> 01:09:03,600
So it's not just who's on trial.
It's for who they inflict that 

1307
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,500
crime against if sandor killed. 
Another Noble trial, Sandra 

1308
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:10,500
killing Micah. 
No trial Barrack says there 

1309
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:14,899
should be Yet, it looked like 
was gonna let him go. 

1310
01:09:14,899 --> 01:09:17,899
It looked like Barrack was going
to be like yeah, you, you were 

1311
01:09:17,899 --> 01:09:19,700
ordered to do it. 
Barrack was almost ready to 

1312
01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:21,000
accept that argument of. 
Yeah. 

1313
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,100
You were following orders from 
your your sovereign. 

1314
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:30,700
Until? 
until the idea of trial by 

1315
01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:33,100
combat came up at Sanders like, 
very ready to he's like, well, 

1316
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:35,399
he doesn't believe in this fire 
stuff, he doesn't believe in his

1317
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:36,399
pretense. 
But he's like, well, if you want

1318
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:40,000
to decide this by swords, I'm 
all for that because he's very 

1319
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,300
confident in his ability with 
the sword. 

1320
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:47,899
Standard was trying very hard to
paint everyone around him as not

1321
01:09:47,899 --> 01:09:50,500
as selfless as they're saying 
like, you guys act selfless but 

1322
01:09:50,500 --> 01:09:52,399
you're not. 
You're all out for yourselves, 

1323
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:54,600
you're out for survival. 
It doesn't really make you any 

1324
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,400
better than these other people, 
but Barrack again back foot 

1325
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,100
sander repeatedly, Sanders like 
oh okay. 

1326
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:03,000
Your breasts played versus my 
nakedness. 

1327
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,400
He's like, okay, I'll take my 
breastplate off every time 

1328
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,400
sandor tries to point out 
Barracks hypocrisy Burek. 

1329
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,300
Responds and and counters. 
It he's like no, I will face 

1330
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:15,100
like, for standard didn't even 
expect back to fight him. 

1331
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:18,100
He's like, who's gonna fight me?
You you barely know me. 

1332
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:21,300
I delivered the sentence. 
I will fight you Santa wasn't 

1333
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:22,900
expecting that. 
He was really, he was expecting 

1334
01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:26,700
hypocrisy and at every turn 
Barrack did not deliver 

1335
01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:29,400
hypocrisy. 
He delivered straightforward, he

1336
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,400
delivered on her and this 
Sanders know what to do Sanders 

1337
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,400
like. 
Okay then let's fight like that.

1338
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,200
I understand this warrant words 
isn't going my way, but this 

1339
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,000
other thing, and even later when
they go looking for Barrack, 

1340
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,800
They don't know where he is. 
No like. 

1341
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,700
Well let's start looking where 
the need is greatest, where the 

1342
01:10:49,700 --> 01:10:52,200
commoners are most suffering. 
That's where Eric will be. 

1343
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,500
That just screams good guy. 
I mean, sandor is trying to 

1344
01:10:56,500 --> 01:10:58,800
argue this man's. 
Not selfless, Barrick. 

1345
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,700
Don Darion is selfless. 
And they used Supernatural help 

1346
01:11:02,700 --> 01:11:04,200
or rather additional 
Supernatural. 

1347
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,300
Help because again, Derek did 
face sandor, but he knew he 

1348
01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:10,200
couldn't die. 
So it's a little bit. 

1349
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,500
It's a little bit tricksy there.
He's like, yes, I will risk my 

1350
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:17,200
own body against you in trial by
combat but I can't die. 

1351
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,200
He can still lose though as he 
did. 

1352
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,600
So that that in that sense, it 
was fair, he took last rest but 

1353
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,500
he still sander, still had to 
win and of course they're being 

1354
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:27,600
led by the undead they have a 
flame reading priests. 

1355
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,300
They sit and where would throw, 
and this is group is all 

1356
01:11:30,300 --> 01:11:34,000
surrounded by where would 
Supernatural magic stuff. 

1357
01:11:35,300 --> 01:11:39,000
It's baseball season. 
Which for me means lots of 

1358
01:11:39,008 --> 01:11:40,700
distractions. 
I'm always like wanting to look 

1359
01:11:40,708 --> 01:11:44,900
at the scores or just see what's
happening, check the news, in 

1360
01:11:44,900 --> 01:11:47,700
case, someone got hurt or some 
player got promoted or demoted, 

1361
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:51,100
whatever. 
Rise is really good at keeping 

1362
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:54,400
me from doing that too often. 
I swear to you that it probably 

1363
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,300
saves me 15, 20 minutes a day, 
it just pops up and say, are you

1364
01:11:58,308 --> 01:11:59,700
sure you want to be looking at 
this right now? 

1365
01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:02,200
And I've told it what's good, 
and what isn't I say? 

1366
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,300
YouTube is fine because I have 
to do research on YouTube. 

1367
01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:06,000
I'd love to do research on 
baseball. 

1368
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,600
That's not part of my work. 
That's fun. 

1369
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,300
That's my time. 
I should be doing that when I'm 

1370
01:12:09,308 --> 01:12:11,900
done with work, but sometimes I 
can't help myself Rise. 

1371
01:12:11,900 --> 01:12:14,800
Like I said, probably says me 
15, 20 minutes a day of work or 

1372
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,100
convert 15 to 20 minutes a day 
of idle time, or of goofing off 

1373
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:21,800
into work that really adds up, 
that's an hour hour and a half a

1374
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,800
week, right? 
Depending on how many days a 

1375
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,900
week, you work. 
That adds up to, you know, five 

1376
01:12:26,900 --> 01:12:30,800
six hours a month, that's a lot.
Think that's a whole work day or

1377
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,500
close to it, right? 
So I think that's a pretty big 

1378
01:12:33,500 --> 01:12:35,000
deal. 
If you can a piece of software 

1379
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,300
that can just kind of sit in the
background and remind you to 

1380
01:12:38,300 --> 01:12:41,600
stay focused. 
Even if it's only saving you a 

1381
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,600
few minutes a day, maybe not as 
much as me that still adds up to

1382
01:12:44,608 --> 01:12:46,300
a lot and maybe it's saves you 
more than that. 

1383
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:49,900
Maybe you are even more 
distractible than me, maybe it 

1384
01:12:49,900 --> 01:12:52,500
save you. 20 30 minutes a day. 
Maybe it's saves you an hour a 

1385
01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:53,800
day. 
That's a lot of productivity. 

1386
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,400
I don't know how to put a price 
on that but Rises not expensive 

1387
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,900
so I think it's worth it. 
Westeros 3 with that code you 

1388
01:13:00,900 --> 01:13:04,100
get 25% off all payments in the 
first three months so you could 

1389
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:06,600
check out rise. 
See if it helps see if you save 

1390
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,000
those minutes. 
And then spend the money on it, 

1391
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,100
get through the trial. 
And say, yeah, this is saving me

1392
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,400
money, it's worth spending on, 
right? 

1393
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,000
That's, that's how I see it. 
It's working for me. 

1394
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,400
So, I gotta figure that at least
some of you all out there. 

1395
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,400
It will help you as well, the 
same way or maybe you have an 

1396
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,000
experience more like a Shea as 
whose more structured, a lot 

1397
01:13:25,008 --> 01:13:26,300
more. 
Well, you explain it. 

1398
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:27,800
You say it. 
I don't need to speak for you. 

1399
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,700
I do use rise, like you're 
describing because I do get 

1400
01:13:30,700 --> 01:13:32,500
distracted. 
Just like anyone else. 

1401
01:13:32,500 --> 01:13:35,100
But I also get two locked in too
focused. 

1402
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:38,200
I just I just need something 
that says hey stretch your 

1403
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,600
life's. 
Hey, get up like, get a drink 

1404
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,200
do. 
Do something else for a minute 

1405
01:13:43,208 --> 01:13:46,500
and and so yeah it's helpful for
for locking in. 

1406
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:48,400
I think it's helpful for for 
Focus. 

1407
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,900
Both ways. 
I can help with your better 

1408
01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:53,700
habits and sort of Tamp back 
your bad habits. 

1409
01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:55,800
I suppose, maybe he's a way to 
summarize that. 

1410
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,500
Once again, that the link is in 
our description, it's rise.io 

1411
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:03,700
and you can get decided as r. 
I z e, and you can get the code 

1412
01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:06,900
Westeros 3, for 25% off all 
payments, in the first three 

1413
01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:09,500
months. 
Also want to remind you all that

1414
01:14:09,500 --> 01:14:13,400
I stream on Twitch almost every 
Friday playing Crusader Kings 3 

1415
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,100
with the Song of Ice and Fire 
mod. 

1416
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:17,000
It's extremely well detailed, 
super cool. 

1417
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,200
And we have What's called the 
large Council, which is y'all 

1418
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,700
listeners who are watching along
and helping me make decisions. 

1419
01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:28,300
One of the things we do 
regularly is Work together, to 

1420
01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:29,900
name children to three weeks 
ago. 

1421
01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:32,500
We named all our kids, our three
in names. 

1422
01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:35,500
So we have our air became Arthur
OS gray. 

1423
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:36,200
That's right. 
We're playing house. 

1424
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,000
OS gray. 
Arthur OS, gray Lord, Arthur OS.

1425
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,700
Gray is now in charge. 
The next week we did lead 

1426
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:47,100
singers so we have Ozzy OS grave
that name popped up and a few 

1427
01:14:47,108 --> 01:14:48,400
other famous singers got in 
there. 

1428
01:14:48,407 --> 01:14:51,600
And then this week this last 
week we did Star Wars and honor 

1429
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,900
of May 4th and just Andor being 
on TV. 

1430
01:14:54,900 --> 01:15:01,200
So we have for example, a Marva 
Oz gray and a 3p I was great. 

1431
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,100
And things like that. 
It's great times, hang out with 

1432
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:10,700
other song of ice and fire fans,
like yours and delve deep into 

1433
01:15:10,700 --> 01:15:14,600
the gaming, world of things. 
Play a full Dynasty, see what 

1434
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,300
happens over the course of 
centuries, it's great fun. 

1435
01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:21,200
Every Friday 6:00 on Twitch 
history of Westeros. 

1436
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:25,200
Dom tartaglia says and Steven is
now an Iron Man's side 

1437
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:26,600
character. 
They named the Stark Industries 

1438
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:31,100
union, rep for him really Yes. 
Spencer Ackerman is a writer for

1439
01:15:31,108 --> 01:15:33,400
Iron, Man. 
And named Karen and Iron Man 

1440
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,900
character after Stephen Atwell. 
Yes, I did not know that. 

1441
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:40,400
Yes, Stephen was a big fan and 
we know Spencer Ackerman. 

1442
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,400
We follow each other on Twitter.
He's a great guy but I don't 

1443
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,000
know this guy now. 
Yeah you're right. 

1444
01:15:45,008 --> 01:15:47,000
He's not on Twitter anymore. 
Not an ex anymore. 

1445
01:15:47,008 --> 01:15:49,500
So that's cool. 
That's awesome. 

1446
01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:51,000
I didn't know that. 
Thanks for sharing that Tom 

1447
01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:57,100
Let's talk about High hearts. 
It's a prominent piece of their 

1448
01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:00,100
piece meal puzzle. 
They have all sorts of people as

1449
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:03,500
we said and represent the well 
known Gods, most of them fall to

1450
01:16:03,500 --> 01:16:07,000
seven, but they've been made 
Nights by Barrack and each other

1451
01:16:07,008 --> 01:16:09,700
under thoros. 
So there is seven worshipers 

1452
01:16:09,700 --> 01:16:11,600
kinda and here, of course, 
they're communing with 

1453
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,200
werewolves effectively. 
Yeah. 

1454
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:18,500
Just adds more to their amalgam 
of options here. 

1455
01:16:18,500 --> 01:16:21,900
It's really cool as we wondered 
about during the ghost of 

1456
01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:23,500
Fireheart episode, which wasn't 
that long ago. 

1457
01:16:23,500 --> 01:16:25,400
Why did they go there in the 
first place? 

1458
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,300
It's doubtful, they were looking
for her specifically they I 

1459
01:16:28,300 --> 01:16:29,500
think that was probably a happy 
accident. 

1460
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,300
Although maybe, maybe they're 
like let's go seek out this. 

1461
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,400
Prophetess of the riverlands the
strange places. 

1462
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,800
They may really just see what 
that's all about. 

1463
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,100
But it's because it was shunned,
it has great visibility. 

1464
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:45,300
That makes a good Hideout if you
no one wants to go there. 

1465
01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:46,700
Well, that's the good reason to 
go there. 

1466
01:16:46,700 --> 01:16:49,600
That makes it a good Hideout. 
If no one's there and the 

1467
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,100
visibility like I said well 
that's that's just useful for 

1468
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:52,700
making sure. 
No. 

1469
01:16:52,700 --> 01:16:55,200
One sneaks up on you. 
Most of our coverage of the 

1470
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,200
ghost of iHeart was on her 
prophecies and a bit about her. 

1471
01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:00,700
But they used her a lot to just 
find each other like she's like 

1472
01:17:00,700 --> 01:17:03,100
a Google Maps or a geolocation 
thing. 

1473
01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:05,500
Do you know where Eric was? 
You could just like, you know, 

1474
01:17:06,500 --> 01:17:09,000
concentrate or feel the energy 
flow. 

1475
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,200
I don't know how to describe the
magic happening, but She could 

1476
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,400
do that, or was it just with 
Derek because she dock because 

1477
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,600
of, who he, because he's Undead 
and he's like, quite a unique 

1478
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,100
individual or can you do that 
with stoneheart? 

1479
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:24,400
And we're also close to moving 
on to the stoneheart era of the 

1480
01:17:24,407 --> 01:17:27,200
BWB in this episode. 
But while thinking about goes 

1481
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:28,500
Ohio, will they ever interact 
again? 

1482
01:17:29,300 --> 01:17:32,100
She accepted on Dead bear even 
though she was calling him, Lord

1483
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:33,600
of corpses and kind of insulting
him. 

1484
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,900
He didn't like that but it's the
same flame. 

1485
01:17:36,900 --> 01:17:40,300
Like Barrett passed the flame of
life too Catlin, so it's like 

1486
01:17:40,300 --> 01:17:47,600
sort of the same being in a 
sense but all so there's a bit 

1487
01:17:47,608 --> 01:17:50,700
of conundrum here. 
I'm not sure that the ghost 

1488
01:17:50,700 --> 01:17:55,000
supported the Brotherhood 
because just they sang the song 

1489
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,900
for her. 
I feel like because they're 

1490
01:17:56,900 --> 01:17:59,200
helping the commenters that's 
part of why she's helping them. 

1491
01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:02,700
Which means she might not be so 
eager to help stoneheart. 

1492
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,500
She freaked out at Aria. 
She's like, oh my God. 

1493
01:18:05,500 --> 01:18:08,800
Are you a ghost blood, child 
wolf child like looking into 

1494
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,200
her? 
Future was very dark and and it 

1495
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,100
caused her to think about summer
haul. 

1496
01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:16,200
It was bad. 
Part of that are his vindictive 

1497
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:17,800
and has lots of Revenge on her 
mind. 

1498
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,200
She's traumatized catlins worse,
catlin's, got these trauma, 

1499
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,300
thoughts, and these vindictive 
thoughts, and she's dead. 

1500
01:18:24,300 --> 01:18:31,800
So I think that if REO was scary
to the ghost of fire, I think, 

1501
01:18:31,808 --> 01:18:35,000
Stone Army scary. 
I mean, not the even, not even 

1502
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,000
the, her being dead Park. 
Is that or him being dead part? 

1503
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,200
Because her being dead part. 
Yeah. 

1504
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,400
Because Derek being dead, didn't
freak the Ghosts Out. 

1505
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,100
It was like the, the 
vindictiveness, the Revenge, the

1506
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:49,400
dark future, and I think that 
might be what she sees in 

1507
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,400
stoneheart. 
Maybe not, maybe she sees the 

1508
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,600
future of stoneheart is like, 
oh, you're not a problem. 

1509
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,700
They didn't even put you on TV. 
Why do I care? 

1510
01:18:56,700 --> 01:18:59,000
No, that's, that's part of why 
we said this episode is so 

1511
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,300
different than what you saw on 
TVs, because of they cut 

1512
01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:04,600
characters like stoneheart and 
they made the Brotherhood evil. 

1513
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,600
They made the bread that evil 
brother's never been evil, but 

1514
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,800
on the TV made the brotherhood 
like dark right away. 

1515
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,300
Like they sold genre to 
Melisandre very early on in 

1516
01:19:13,300 --> 01:19:14,600
their Arc. 
So it's not like they slowly 

1517
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,400
declined in the evil. 
It's like now they were pretty 

1518
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,800
bad right away. 
It's like just because of that 

1519
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,900
single act they sold a guy. 
Like that's awful, right? 

1520
01:19:23,900 --> 01:19:25,500
It's not like a ransom. 
That's how they friends like 

1521
01:19:25,508 --> 01:19:27,600
God's just a ransom know you 
know what she's gonna do to him 

1522
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:32,200
this whole like a teen too. 
Yeah, I know guy whatever. 

1523
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,000
But like this old a child like 
Andrew was pretty young still 

1524
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,000
instead of just casting Edward 
storm. 

1525
01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:43,900
So yeah. 
Here's a passage that Steve went

1526
01:19:43,900 --> 01:19:46,900
out well called one of the most 
important in all of A Storm of 

1527
01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:49,300
Swords. 
It comes right after Arya tries 

1528
01:19:49,300 --> 01:19:52,700
to write off. 
But it's caught by Harwin and it

1529
01:19:52,700 --> 01:19:55,100
reflects back on what we were 
saying earlier about the class 

1530
01:19:55,100 --> 01:19:57,500
distinction and the struggle and
Arya is realization here. 

1531
01:19:57,500 --> 01:20:00,700
Quote, the look she gave him was
Full of Hurt. 

1532
01:20:01,300 --> 01:20:03,500
I thought you were my father's, 
man. 

1533
01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:07,400
Lord, eddard dead malady. 
I belong to the lightning, Lord.

1534
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:12,600
Now, and to my brothers, what 
brothers Allen and father, no 

1535
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,000
other sons that Arya could 
remember. 

1536
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,300
And I am Tomas Evans, Jack and 
green beard all of them. 

1537
01:20:18,300 --> 01:20:21,300
We mean your brother Rob, no, 
ill male lady, but it's not him.

1538
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:24,200
We fight for, he has an army, 
all his own and many a great 

1539
01:20:24,208 --> 01:20:28,400
Lord, to bend the knee. 
Small folk have only us, he gave

1540
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,200
her a searching, look, can you 
understand what I'm telling you?

1541
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,000
Yeah. 
Are you expected Harmon to be 

1542
01:20:34,008 --> 01:20:37,600
loyal to her but it didn't even 
occur to her, that it would be 

1543
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:43,500
otherwise so, the idea that Rob 
is in the good guy, Is bizarre 

1544
01:20:43,500 --> 01:20:46,300
to her not that he's necessarily
the bad guy, but he kind of is 

1545
01:20:46,300 --> 01:20:48,100
because his men are doing some 
pillaging, too. 

1546
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:51,400
Not as much as the land is, but 
they are doing it. 

1547
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,000
So Harwin is just a different 
man. 

1548
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,500
Now, he's no longer his past has
changed like so many of these 

1549
01:20:56,508 --> 01:20:59,900
people. 
His past is the past he is now a

1550
01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:02,500
brother. 
A brother of the Brotherhood 

1551
01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:05,100
without banners. 
And what he did in the past is 

1552
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:08,200
irrelevant. 
They have earned his loyalty in 

1553
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,000
a way to start, never did the 
Stars. 

1554
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,800
Could have maybe maybe, you 
know, maybe you could imagine 

1555
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,800
her wins in battle and Ned Stark
leads them really well. 

1556
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,800
And his leadership is the reason
they survived. 

1557
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,000
You could see that being 
something that binds him to him 

1558
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,500
forever, but that didn't happen.
So this happened, he's bound to 

1559
01:21:23,508 --> 01:21:27,000
Eric and thoros forever instead 
because the experience their 

1560
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,200
shared experience and what 
they've gone through. 

1561
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,600
The ghost of high heart reminds 
us too. 

1562
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,500
That thoros is a flame reader. 
She says, yeah, you can look 

1563
01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:34,900
into your flames, but you won't 
see it here, won't work here. 

1564
01:21:34,900 --> 01:21:37,900
So that's just a way to remind 
us that he has those powers. 

1565
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,800
He's using that to help the 
brother without banners, but we 

1566
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,700
haven't seen it. 
We haven't actually seen like 

1567
01:21:42,700 --> 01:21:45,500
what is flame reading his 
amounted to for them. 

1568
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,600
So it's still kind of a known 
quantity or unknown quality for 

1569
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,900
in terms of what good it does 
them. 

1570
01:21:51,900 --> 01:21:54,000
It's really does something. 
But I don't I'm not sure what 

1571
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,100
But by the end of A Storm of 
Swords, he's no longer using the

1572
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:00,200
flame reading for the same 
purposes because it's a 

1573
01:22:00,208 --> 01:22:02,300
different leader. 
Bear could probably be like, hey

1574
01:22:02,300 --> 01:22:05,400
if I do this do that. 
Find this find that stoneheart 

1575
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,200
would be making different 
requests and Bear. 

1576
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:10,600
In and for one thing, she'd be 
like, look for Aria. 

1577
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,500
That'd be a big one, but maybe 
also look for their enemies. 

1578
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:15,000
Look for phrase, look for 
Lannisters. 

1579
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,000
And a big, another important 
distinction here is that Barrack

1580
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,400
was like his best friend like he
loved Barrack. 

1581
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:25,000
He doesn't really have. 
He's no Catlin. 

1582
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,700
I mean, he obviously his respect
for her, he reverse her in a 

1583
01:22:28,700 --> 01:22:29,700
way, but they're not, like, 
friends. 

1584
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:32,500
He didn't love her prior to 
this, you know, it's like a, it 

1585
01:22:32,500 --> 01:22:34,700
is more of a traditional like 
leader, follower relationship, 

1586
01:22:34,700 --> 01:22:37,700
whereas American thoros were 
they had a different kind of 

1587
01:22:37,700 --> 01:22:39,100
connection, you know, they like,
they were very close. 

1588
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,800
Is also in that regard, he's 
also suffering because he lost 

1589
01:22:43,808 --> 01:22:47,700
his best friend. 
Under stoneheart. 

1590
01:22:47,700 --> 01:22:51,300
Let's get into the weeds with 
their leadership with the Hang 

1591
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:53,100
woman. 
Stay another person that just 

1592
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:55,000
has a lot of nicknames. 
Don't heart official name, 

1593
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,300
either. 
It's like, cold hands or the 

1594
01:22:56,308 --> 01:22:58,200
brother without banners. 
She's got a bunch of nicknames. 

1595
01:22:59,100 --> 01:23:02,300
So they start off with Robin 
Hood Vibes, kidnapping and 

1596
01:23:02,300 --> 01:23:04,200
ransoming. 
That's Robin Hood's men did that

1597
01:23:04,208 --> 01:23:05,800
too. 
It's common enough and bringing 

1598
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,900
groups but it just gets darker 
and darker. 

1599
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:11,500
From Mary men to murderous men, 
they're literally led by an 

1600
01:23:11,500 --> 01:23:14,600
undead Lord and their leadership
takes advice from Supernatural 

1601
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,600
sources, like flame reading and 
the Ghost of high heart. 

1602
01:23:16,608 --> 01:23:19,900
Still despite these flaws and 
red flags not red banners 

1603
01:23:19,900 --> 01:23:21,700
because they don't have banners,
right? 

1604
01:23:21,700 --> 01:23:23,800
There's still mostly good, 
right? 

1605
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,800
Especially from the perspective 
of common folk with their 

1606
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,700
fighting for most of them 
anyway, Was it part of Barracks 

1607
01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:31,400
yearning to be done? 
Was he tired of living? 

1608
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,000
Is that, why he passed the flame
to Catelyn? 

1609
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,800
Was it his sense of nobility? 
He's just overwhelming sense of 

1610
01:23:36,808 --> 01:23:40,200
giving like the his life was 
meant to be spent for the realm.

1611
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,800
But why Catlin of all the 
possibility? 

1612
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,000
Why her, you know, surely not 
just because she was a noble 

1613
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,800
woman of extremely high birth. 
Or was that part of? 

1614
01:23:47,808 --> 01:23:49,600
It is just oh, she's the highest
ranking personal? 

1615
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,100
I can save that doesn't seem 
like what the brotherhood's 

1616
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:56,100
about, but bear is a little 
unique as he's a lord too, even 

1617
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:59,100
though he's for the commenters, 
now he's still I don't know, 

1618
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:03,200
it's a little confusing, a 
little hard to perceive there 

1619
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,200
might be more to it than the 
George hasn't revealed yet 

1620
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,300
again. 
It was Lord eddard who sent them

1621
01:24:07,300 --> 01:24:09,900
on this Mission and he would 
maybe recognize that that was 

1622
01:24:09,900 --> 01:24:12,300
lured Edward's wife so maybe 
that's part of the connection. 

1623
01:24:12,300 --> 01:24:16,200
I don't know but whatever his 
reasoning She took the 

1624
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,000
Brotherhood on a much darker 
path. 

1625
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,700
Just like there's rumors of 
Barrack dying a bunch of times 

1626
01:24:21,700 --> 01:24:24,100
which were true because he did 
die. 

1627
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:26,500
A bunch of times. 
There's also rumors of 

1628
01:24:26,500 --> 01:24:29,700
stoneheart. 
This Undead being or This creepy

1629
01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:33,700
strange looking woman that leads
the Brotherhood. 

1630
01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:37,200
There were rumors of it, like I 
said, but there's dream, she had

1631
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,900
that wolf dream, but the actual 
first on-screen reveal of 

1632
01:24:40,900 --> 01:24:45,400
stoneheart as a moving being 
rather than just, a body comes 

1633
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,500
famously in the epilogue of A 
Storm of Swords. 

1634
01:24:48,500 --> 01:24:51,100
The first epilogue of the whole 
series, there's only one other 

1635
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:53,900
one in a dance attractions. 
Just like the prologues, of 

1636
01:24:53,900 --> 01:24:56,300
course, the characters. 
Doomed, its Merit Frey, 

1637
01:24:56,300 --> 01:24:59,700
obviously, he's hanged just 
after they show him that they've

1638
01:24:59,708 --> 01:25:02,800
already hanged, his cousin 
Peter, who he came to rent. 

1639
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,900
Some like the guy you came to 
him, he's already hanging. 

1640
01:25:04,900 --> 01:25:07,400
Yep. 
You're next That he ends the 

1641
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,300
chapter dead is not surprising, 
but the reveal of their leader 

1642
01:25:11,300 --> 01:25:13,400
is right, that's super 
different. 

1643
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,100
Like that's that was a surprise 
party. 

1644
01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:19,700
Thoros again, loved Barrack. 
He is different feelings about 

1645
01:25:19,700 --> 01:25:21,700
lady, stoneheart. 
One of her. 

1646
01:25:21,708 --> 01:25:23,000
Other nicknames is the silent 
sister. 

1647
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,000
This is what thoros says in 
response quote. 

1648
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:33,100
Lightning comes and goes and 
then is seen no more so too with

1649
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:36,800
men Lord, Barracks fire has gone
out of this world. 

1650
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:42,800
I fear a Grimmer Shadow leads us
in his place a Grimmer Shadow. 

1651
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:47,300
That's true. 
It certainly interesting that 

1652
01:25:47,300 --> 01:25:50,200
they just unquestionably 
accepted her leadership. 

1653
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:54,600
I guess it's because it was the 
demonstrative and almost literal

1654
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,500
passing of the torch his passing
of the flame of life from bears.

1655
01:25:58,500 --> 01:26:01,100
Like, Well, he kind of says, 
you're the new leader because 

1656
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:04,300
our old leader basically gave 
his life to make you alive. 

1657
01:26:04,300 --> 01:26:07,700
It's just a very dramatic way to
do it, but it's also kind of 

1658
01:26:07,700 --> 01:26:10,900
hard to deny his intent. 
Again, under Barrack, we saw the

1659
01:26:10,900 --> 01:26:15,100
shift from fighting Gregor and 
Lannisters to fighting to save 

1660
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:16,500
the commoners from the 
Lannisters. 

1661
01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:19,800
And then from other broken men, 
and from starvation, all these 

1662
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,900
things are still problems, 
right? 

1663
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:23,400
There's still broken men out 
there. 

1664
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,200
There's still starvation out 
there and they're still 

1665
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,300
Lannisters out there causing 
harm and along with some other 

1666
01:26:27,308 --> 01:26:29,700
people too. 
But under Lady stoneheart, of 

1667
01:26:29,700 --> 01:26:30,600
course, was priorities have 
changed. 

1668
01:26:30,608 --> 01:26:33,100
They're still doing some of 
those things, but they're 

1669
01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:37,000
they're top priority is much 
different instead of Justice, 

1670
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,800
its revenge. 
And instead of trying to save 

1671
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,500
the commoners their focuses to 
try to find and locate one 

1672
01:26:44,500 --> 01:26:48,300
specific person, which is Aria, 
a lot of the random helpers of 

1673
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,200
falling off. 
They're not as beloved as they 

1674
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,600
used to be. 
They're not the same 

1675
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,600
organization, which means they 
don't have the same appeal to 

1676
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:00,200
the commoners. 
Some of the people that are in 

1677
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,100
the organization are no longer 
good people, they've become dark

1678
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:05,700
and hateful and, and the thing 
that they've been fighting 

1679
01:27:05,700 --> 01:27:07,500
against in some cases, that's 
what they are. 

1680
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,200
And others are just dead. 
Pharaoh says it quite succinctly

1681
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:16,900
to bring in here quote Justice 
thorough smiled. 

1682
01:27:16,900 --> 01:27:22,900
When Lee I remember Justice. 
It had a pleasant taste Justice 

1683
01:27:22,900 --> 01:27:27,400
was what we were about when 
Barry let us Or so, we told 

1684
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,700
ourselves. 
We were Kingsmen nights and 

1685
01:27:31,700 --> 01:27:36,000
heroes but some nights are dark 
and full of Terror. 

1686
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,500
My lady wore makes Monsters of 
us. 

1687
01:27:39,500 --> 01:27:41,700
All are you saying you are 
monsters? 

1688
01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:46,100
I'm saying we are human. 
You are not the only one with 

1689
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:49,700
wounds Lady Brienne. 
Some of my brothers were good 

1690
01:27:49,700 --> 01:27:53,400
men when this began some were 
less good. 

1691
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:57,200
Shall we say though there are 
those who say it does not matter

1692
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:01,200
how a man begins but only how he
ends. 

1693
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,300
I suppose it is the same for 
women. 

1694
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,000
It's really sad. 
Thoros is just like looking. 

1695
01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:11,000
For answers. 
He's just maybe this is okay, 

1696
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,400
maybe this is right. 
He he's helpless at this point. 

1697
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,100
He used to be a leader of this 
group but now he's Bound by his 

1698
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:19,700
religion to continue to see this
through. 

1699
01:28:19,700 --> 01:28:21,500
Even though he has no idea where
it's going even though he's 

1700
01:28:21,500 --> 01:28:26,400
depressed and doesn't have an 
eye, doesn't see the light of 

1701
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,600
the end of the tunnel, they're 
literally in a cave. 

1702
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,600
He can't see the positive 
outcome from this, but because 

1703
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,900
his God is in charge here 
because his God has really 

1704
01:28:35,900 --> 01:28:37,800
raised their leader up multiple 
times. 

1705
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,400
He's got to follow along even 
though he's got his not going 

1706
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:42,000
anywhere. 
Good. 

1707
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,900
It, they have become 
paradoxically broken and 

1708
01:28:45,900 --> 01:28:47,900
hardened at the same time, 
they're more used to the 

1709
01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:52,800
depredations and warfare and 
suffering, but less capable of 

1710
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,300
being human, which is what 
they're fighting for. 

1711
01:28:55,300 --> 01:28:57,200
They're fighting for Humanity 
and humans. 

1712
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,000
Even though, that even while 
their leader is not among the 

1713
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,500
living, it's almost as if sand 
or was right. 

1714
01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:08,600
When he said Knights on their 
ends at night but the rest of 

1715
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,100
you are the sorry, a lot of 
Outlaws and broken men have ever

1716
01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:12,400
seen. 
I've shit better men than you. 

1717
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:17,700
It's like he was Right. 
A little early on that one, you 

1718
01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:20,400
know? 
And he was wrong when he said at

1719
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,400
the time but it became true 
eventually. 

1720
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:24,800
Nothing. 
He could have predicted these 

1721
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,900
particulars. 
But it's hard to say he's wrong 

1722
01:29:28,900 --> 01:29:32,300
when they're doing the kind of 
things they're doing now, even 

1723
01:29:32,300 --> 01:29:34,100
though they still are doing some
good things, they're doing 

1724
01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:37,100
violent things, and sometimes 
that violence is aimed at the 

1725
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:40,300
worst people, like they do, kill
the rest of origin. 

1726
01:29:40,300 --> 01:29:43,400
Biters group that was good 
friends in the Brotherhood is 

1727
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:44,900
just so much different than 
ours. 

1728
01:29:44,900 --> 01:29:48,300
That's a clear thing here. 
They and much briefer too. 

1729
01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:49,600
At least so far, she's still 
with them. 

1730
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,300
So maybe lendup being lengthy, 
but thoros is explicit, that 

1731
01:29:53,300 --> 01:29:56,000
quote, he didn't pull punches 
even as even as he's searching 

1732
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,900
for answers, even as he's 
saying, Well, we're doing evil 

1733
01:29:58,900 --> 01:30:01,600
things now, but as long as we 
finish, well, it'll be okay. 

1734
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,200
Which is like, are you gonna 
finish? 

1735
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:08,200
Well, he might actually maybe 
We'll end heroically and doing 

1736
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,000
good things. 
Maybe he'll fight the others or 

1737
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,300
something like that. 
But just ravaging the riverlands

1738
01:30:14,300 --> 01:30:16,400
and searching for Aria, you 
know, by itself, I don't know. 

1739
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,200
That's that maybe won't save 
your soul by itself. 

1740
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,800
It's kind of makes me think of 
about it being the journey, not 

1741
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,500
the destination to quote, you 
know. 

1742
01:30:24,508 --> 01:30:27,600
Yes, things George may be 
ruminating on with his own 

1743
01:30:27,608 --> 01:30:30,600
writing you ended. 
Or maybe it's about the journey.

1744
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,300
I don't know. 
That's a good. 

1745
01:30:32,308 --> 01:30:36,100
That's a good point. 
And and Brianna confronts is, 

1746
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:39,500
are you saying your monster is? 
And he's like, he says, no. 

1747
01:30:39,500 --> 01:30:41,300
He doesn't say no. 
He says, I'm saying we're human,

1748
01:30:41,300 --> 01:30:44,100
but he's saying, human humans 
can become monsters if they're 

1749
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:46,100
pushed enough. 
So he's kind of saying yes 

1750
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:51,400
without saying yes, But he also 
says they are not without a 

1751
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:52,700
chance of redemption. 
He doesn't want to say they're 

1752
01:30:52,700 --> 01:30:54,000
too far gone. 
If they can't come back. 

1753
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,000
He that's the part he won't 
admit because It's tough to 

1754
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,400
admit that it might not be true.
It might be that there's still a

1755
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,100
chance of redemption for them. 
I think if there's a chance of 

1756
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:04,600
redemption for someone like 
Jamie, why not them? 

1757
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,000
Maybe that's not art because 
she's Undead and that's a whole 

1758
01:31:07,008 --> 01:31:10,400
different thing, but the rest of
them maybe maybe flipping back 

1759
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,300
to a kind of fun, and exciting 
plot line rather than a dark and

1760
01:31:13,300 --> 01:31:15,700
depressing one, we have a river 
run. 

1761
01:31:17,700 --> 01:31:19,200
But one of the most exciting 
things they've done is 

1762
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:23,000
infiltrate this Castle. 
Tommo, 7s shows, how effective a

1763
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,000
Bard Spike can be. 
Yeah, you know, in real life and

1764
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,800
in a lot of fantasy stories, The
Bard is often a spy, it's true 

1765
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,900
in The Witcher, a couple others.
I can't think of the top of my 

1766
01:31:31,907 --> 01:31:36,200
head but Just like mushroom. 
The the dwarf gesture 

1767
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:41,900
entertainers often have Insider 
access just by being in the room

1768
01:31:41,900 --> 01:31:44,400
when important things are 
discussed, they are ignored but 

1769
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:45,600
they pick up in fortnite 
information. 

1770
01:31:46,700 --> 01:31:49,600
Singers aren't common in 
Westeros so they can often get 

1771
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:55,000
jobs and invitations just by 
being around and that again, 

1772
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,200
that gives them access to what 
we were saying gossip, 

1773
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,700
information, maybe more, maybe 
straight up secrets. 

1774
01:32:00,500 --> 01:32:05,000
Tom has been doing exactly that.
travel party is in particular, 

1775
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,800
somehow he's sending information
out about which phrase or going 

1776
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:12,300
where and that's huge because 
that's how they learned about 

1777
01:32:12,300 --> 01:32:13,900
Merit Freight. 
They learned Merrett Frey was 

1778
01:32:13,907 --> 01:32:16,000
coming and they hanged him. 
Well actually that's not too 

1779
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,600
different because that one they 
just tricked him into thinking a

1780
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,100
ransom would be paid Fred the 
phrase stopped Falling For That 

1781
01:32:21,100 --> 01:32:23,100
Trick. 
Like yeah, they're not gonna pay

1782
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:23,900
the ransom, they're going to 
kill. 

1783
01:32:23,900 --> 01:32:26,900
Take your money and kill them. 
So after that stopped working, 

1784
01:32:26,900 --> 01:32:31,900
they just simply pass these 
messages along and ambushed. 

1785
01:32:31,900 --> 01:32:35,300
These phrase, Ryman is the heir 
to the ones the air to the 

1786
01:32:35,308 --> 01:32:38,900
twins. 
He was hanged at fair market out

1787
01:32:38,900 --> 01:32:43,700
in the open, like brazenly Janie
is annoyed by their audacity, 

1788
01:32:43,700 --> 01:32:46,000
but for the brother, it must 
have been quite a scene. 

1789
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,700
There must have been like, yeah,
we got a big one. 

1790
01:32:47,700 --> 01:32:50,500
We got the heir to the twin. 
That's their biggest get yet. 

1791
01:32:50,500 --> 01:32:52,900
Well, now they have Jamie, 
that's, that's bigger. 

1792
01:32:52,900 --> 01:32:56,900
But before that, this was, this 
is huge. 

1793
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,900
He would have been shouting 
about how much he's worth he 

1794
01:32:59,900 --> 01:33:02,000
didn't like no, Ransom me, I'm 
the heir to the twins are more 

1795
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,500
so much like you're worse so 
much more to us dying. 

1796
01:33:05,500 --> 01:33:09,200
We're gonna enjoy this Solomon 
of money would would make this, 

1797
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,700
but we just too bad. 
Right? 

1798
01:33:11,700 --> 01:33:16,600
Like They could take that money 
in Alleviate the starvation. 

1799
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,000
That's what Barack probably 
would have done, right? 

1800
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,300
This is that's the difference. 
Like yeah, that's crazy dude. 

1801
01:33:20,300 --> 01:33:22,500
Kind of deserve to hang, but 
isn't it more important to feed 

1802
01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:24,100
those commenters than to kill 
this man? 

1803
01:33:25,300 --> 01:33:28,900
Not to lady stoneheart. 
Thomas has been shown to be a 

1804
01:33:28,900 --> 01:33:31,600
womanizer, that's a common 
place, by the way. 

1805
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,500
And we've hardly gotten to delve
into the specifics of a lot of 

1806
01:33:35,500 --> 01:33:37,700
the individual members like 
Barracks come up a lot. 

1807
01:33:37,700 --> 01:33:40,100
Doris is a lot but like there's 
a lot of colorful characters in 

1808
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:42,300
this group that we've not been 
able to spend much time on so 

1809
01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:46,100
some other time off to maybe and
examine some individual stories.

1810
01:33:46,100 --> 01:33:49,900
So yeah, Tom womanizer might 
have slept with Lady Smallwood 

1811
01:33:49,900 --> 01:33:52,100
that might be part of why she's 
an ally. 

1812
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,100
Jamie doesn't know any of this. 
But he casually tells Tom. 

1813
01:33:56,900 --> 01:33:59,900
If he wants to win a job, if you
want to win a permanent 

1814
01:33:59,900 --> 01:34:01,900
position, you need to talk to 
Jenna Lynn. 

1815
01:34:01,900 --> 01:34:04,400
So, she's the one, you should 
impress Jenna is the one who 

1816
01:34:04,407 --> 01:34:07,100
really rules around here, Eman 
phrase, the Lord. 

1817
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:11,100
But Jen is in charge. 
And we've seen that in play. 

1818
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:12,600
Like Jamie's almost certainly 
right about that. 

1819
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,600
She's the new lady River and 
she's Jamie's aunt. 

1820
01:34:16,500 --> 01:34:19,200
Now, Tom's intent was to be 
Jamie singer. 

1821
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,200
He's like I want to work with 
you because we know what he's 

1822
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,600
goal is there. 
He's gonna infiltrate Jamie's 

1823
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,200
group and get Jamie captured. 
Of course, that ends up 

1824
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:28,900
happening. 
Anyway, as I keep saying, but 

1825
01:34:28,900 --> 01:34:30,200
that was what time was trying to
do. 

1826
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:34,500
And that's when Jamie and Jamie 
suggests well, you know, instead

1827
01:34:34,500 --> 01:34:36,900
why don't you do this? 
Try to get a job here in Tom's 

1828
01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:37,800
like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do 
that. 

1829
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:43,100
So the implication putting 
together the woman. 

1830
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:47,900
The sleeping around and Jamie 
straight up suggesting. 

1831
01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:49,500
That's the one whose favorite 
you need to win. 

1832
01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:52,500
It's not unlikely. 
That Tom was Evans, will sleep 

1833
01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:56,000
with General Lister and then has
that children with her, and 

1834
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,000
there's no indication that that 
these aren't his kids. 

1835
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:05,700
But she it, like openly talks 
down to him, openly says, she 

1836
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:07,900
didn't want to marry him, you 
know, she was against the 

1837
01:35:07,900 --> 01:35:10,500
marriage what had happened. 
She was so proud of Taiwan for 

1838
01:35:10,500 --> 01:35:13,300
standing up against it because 
Tywin is like a 10 year old was 

1839
01:35:13,300 --> 01:35:16,900
like this is an embarrassing 
match, you know, that's a ten 

1840
01:35:16,900 --> 01:35:19,000
year old. 
He said that Jenna loved it 

1841
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:23,600
because it kind of was anyway. 
That's pretty interesting. 

1842
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,900
But Tom's, perhaps most valuable
play. 

1843
01:35:25,900 --> 01:35:29,600
If, since he's staying at River 
Run, he could play a crucial 

1844
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,200
role in the so-called red 
wedding 2.0. 

1845
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:38,300
Letting the Brotherhood in or 
letting an army or of some 

1846
01:35:38,300 --> 01:35:41,300
Violent Men inside river, run, 
while the Lannisters and Fries, 

1847
01:35:41,300 --> 01:35:43,400
don't expect it. 
And why is it called the Red 

1848
01:35:43,407 --> 01:35:46,000
Wedding 2.0 because it could 
happen during a wedding and that

1849
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:51,000
wedding would be Devin Lannister
jammies, cousin, son of Stafford

1850
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,300
Lannister, he is going to marry 
a Fray, we don't know which 

1851
01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:55,000
phrase he's gonna marry yet but 
it's going to be afraid. 

1852
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,900
Given River Run is held by Emmon
Frey. 

1853
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:04,000
And Genna Lannister, it's a 
really good candidate for this 

1854
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,600
location for this marriage, to 
take place for them, to create 

1855
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,000
this marriage. 
And to Basically make a 

1856
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,400
statement that they're the new 
rulers of River Run. 

1857
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,300
Davines. 
Also, the warden of the West. 

1858
01:36:15,300 --> 01:36:18,500
So he's a really high ranking 
officer type And we've already 

1859
01:36:18,500 --> 01:36:23,000
seen via the Blackfish. 
How just slightly raising the 

1860
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,400
Gate of one of the port causes 
enables a person to slip under 

1861
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:30,500
and then swim away. 
So they just the ways that we've

1862
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:34,300
been subtly told River Run can 
be infiltrated, we've got a spy 

1863
01:36:34,300 --> 01:36:37,100
on the inside. 
We've got, we've seen logistical

1864
01:36:37,100 --> 01:36:39,700
methods on how River Run can 
have men. 

1865
01:36:39,700 --> 01:36:42,800
Let in, we've seen an escape 
from River Run when Jamie tried 

1866
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:47,500
to get out when with tyrion's 
like, mummer and lock picking 

1867
01:36:47,500 --> 01:36:50,700
guy and all that. 
So, we've seen lots of things 

1868
01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:52,600
happen that are related to this 
at River. 

1869
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:57,200
Run not to mention boats. 
Men could sail down the red fork

1870
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:01,900
or the tumblestone to sneak up 
on river run at night knowing 

1871
01:37:01,900 --> 01:37:03,800
that with the knowledge that 
someone's gonna let them in. 

1872
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:08,400
Yeah, there's a lot of options 
here and that's part of why this

1873
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,600
is such a popular Theory because
this seems to be a lot of 

1874
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,600
foreshadowing for it and a lot 
of groundwork. 

1875
01:37:14,700 --> 01:37:16,700
And if let's say that wedding 
happens, let's say there's a 

1876
01:37:16,700 --> 01:37:19,900
Fray Lannister marriage. 
Going to take place at River 

1877
01:37:19,900 --> 01:37:24,200
run, then announced that this is
as bad as the Bolton's 

1878
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:28,500
announcing a Bolton are Stark 
marriage at Winterfell in the 

1879
01:37:28,508 --> 01:37:31,200
ruins of Winterfell. 
The commoners, the Old Guard 

1880
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:35,500
Nobles are gonna hate it. 
The river, Lord's all hate the 

1881
01:37:35,500 --> 01:37:37,300
phrase and they don't like the 
Lannisters. 

1882
01:37:37,300 --> 01:37:40,100
They're not river Lords. 
They're Westerman, why do they 

1883
01:37:40,100 --> 01:37:43,900
don't want this? 
They like the tullys The things 

1884
01:37:43,900 --> 01:37:45,800
under the tullys were good, 
right? 

1885
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,700
And they're at least River Lords
that that handled themselves 

1886
01:37:48,700 --> 01:37:51,700
honorably. 
So Everyone's gonna hate this. 

1887
01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:54,500
It won't be hard to get a 
Grassroots movement of 

1888
01:37:54,500 --> 01:37:56,500
commoners. 
And remember we said earlier 

1889
01:37:56,500 --> 01:37:59,800
hundreds if not thousands of 
them out there and who treated 

1890
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:03,900
the commoners best Edmure Tully 
out of besides the Brotherhood 

1891
01:38:03,900 --> 01:38:07,100
admir tells, you specifically 
brought commoners inside river 

1892
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:10,200
run when the War was happening 
to give them better protection. 

1893
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,500
No other Lord would have done 
that because it takes too much 

1894
01:38:12,508 --> 01:38:15,900
food up and who kicked them back
out when he took charge black 

1895
01:38:15,900 --> 01:38:17,900
fish. 
Kicked them back out when this 

1896
01:38:17,900 --> 01:38:20,400
the the castle was gonna be 
about to be besieged by the 

1897
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,400
Landers, like, well y'all don't 
want to be trapped in here and 

1898
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,500
we can't keep you in here so I'm
sorry, this is terrible. 

1899
01:38:25,500 --> 01:38:30,500
We gotta kick you out. so they 
might not like that, but they 

1900
01:38:30,500 --> 01:38:33,200
will remember Edward or who was 
the actual Lord and who did 

1901
01:38:33,208 --> 01:38:35,600
things well, Now, Forest has a 
vision. 

1902
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,500
Let me finish this section with 
this vision of thoros that he 

1903
01:38:38,508 --> 01:38:41,100
has. 
He sees lions at River Run. 

1904
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:45,300
He's an island in a Sea of Fire.
His interpretation is that the 

1905
01:38:45,300 --> 01:38:46,700
Lannisters are going to besiege 
River Run. 

1906
01:38:46,700 --> 01:38:48,700
He tells us to Aria and is like,
no. 

1907
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,900
But what if he had it backwards?
What if? 

1908
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:56,800
It's the Lannisters being 
attacked, not the Lannisters 

1909
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:00,100
attacking at River Run. 
Yeah, they have the castle now, 

1910
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:04,800
so it's feasible that they will 
lose it and Well, that's what 

1911
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,800
thoros could be seeing here in 
the same breath thoros. 

1912
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,400
Admits that he reads the Flames 
wrong. 

1913
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:15,100
Sometimes Right, very possible. 
So there's your red wedding 2.0.

1914
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:17,600
There's a lot more to that 
theory but you know, it's not 

1915
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,900
all about the Brotherhood. 
Just a lot. 

1916
01:39:19,900 --> 01:39:21,800
So maybe we'll come back at some
other time. 

1917
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:25,300
If you have other red wedding, 
2.0 theories, I'm all ears, 

1918
01:39:25,300 --> 01:39:27,400
we're all ears. 
Let's move on. 

1919
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,100
Hilde and other spots whose 
hilde that name. 

1920
01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:35,100
Probably sounds familiar to 
y'all but you might not remember

1921
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:38,200
exactly who she is when Jamie 
arrives at Raven, Tree haul 

1922
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:42,600
after River Run. 
He goes to relieve or to finish 

1923
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:46,900
the seed of the brackens of 
taking Raven tree Hoffman from 

1924
01:39:46,900 --> 01:39:49,600
the blackwoods. 
Of course, the black was refused

1925
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:51,400
to surrender to the brackens 
butter, okay? 

1926
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:55,800
Just surrender to Jamie. and 
when Jamie arrives, The Lord 

1927
01:39:55,808 --> 01:39:59,600
Bracken is in his tent humping. 
A camp follower named hilde who 

1928
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:04,100
proceeds to flirt with Jamie 
very brazenly, In earlier drafts

1929
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:07,200
of A Dance with Dragons. 
Hilde is explicitly a member of 

1930
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,000
the Brotherhood without banners 
as a spy. 

1931
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,900
She's a sex worker spy, another 
Insider type like a singer that 

1932
01:40:12,900 --> 01:40:15,600
can get intimate information 
even more intimate than a 

1933
01:40:15,608 --> 01:40:17,400
singer. 
Well, maybe not more than a 

1934
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,800
singer who sleeps around. 
Same difference, right? 

1935
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:26,400
So we're not certain, she's a 
spy, given the Red Sox and 

1936
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,700
rewrites. 
But she probably is, it's 

1937
01:40:28,700 --> 01:40:31,100
probably just George didn't make
it explicit, right? 

1938
01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:34,300
Especially because they're we've
got Tom trying to hang out with 

1939
01:40:34,300 --> 01:40:36,000
her. 
I mean Tom's trying to hang out 

1940
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,200
with Jamie trying to get hired 
by Jamie in order to pass 

1941
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,900
information about his location, 
then we actually have the 

1942
01:40:40,900 --> 01:40:43,700
stoneheart and Brienne capturing
him so he's been a target for a 

1943
01:40:43,708 --> 01:40:46,700
while so he'll do was probably 
targeting him too. 

1944
01:40:46,700 --> 01:40:48,900
That's the implication. 
And it makes a lot of sense 

1945
01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:54,000
because Well, that scene is a 
little like something's going on

1946
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,400
here. 
We really just a flirtatious sex

1947
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:57,900
worker that really all this is 
about. 

1948
01:40:57,900 --> 01:41:00,600
You know this is really just 
Jamie showing how he still loyal

1949
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,700
to Cersei. 
I mean that is also being done 

1950
01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:06,300
here but I really like the 
George always does it so much at

1951
01:41:06,300 --> 01:41:07,700
once. 
I can't imagine that's the only 

1952
01:41:07,700 --> 01:41:11,100
thing happening in that scene 
not just it's also not just a 

1953
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:14,000
way to show, Jonas Bracken being
a man of a little lower quality,

1954
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,800
you know, so makes a ton of 
sense and it just makes you 

1955
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,300
think, okay. 
So he'll do the sacks workers a 

1956
01:41:20,300 --> 01:41:22,700
spy Tom, the singer is a spy. 
Who else? 

1957
01:41:22,700 --> 01:41:24,800
This is probably a ton of them 
out there. 

1958
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,400
Anyone could be BWB loyal, 
right? 

1959
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:34,500
Because any given person in the 
riverlands Could easily have a 

1960
01:41:34,500 --> 01:41:38,600
grievance against the Lannisters
even be BWB sympathizers in the 

1961
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:42,900
room right now? 
Well, careful, you won. 

1962
01:41:42,900 --> 01:41:49,500
I am one. 
If you are too fat but don't 

1963
01:41:49,500 --> 01:41:52,300
rescue yourself. 
Good thing. 

1964
01:41:52,300 --> 01:41:55,000
You're all using assumed names 
here with our internet names. 

1965
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,500
Yeah. 
So, this is less of a shift. 

1966
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,300
From earlier, BWB more of a 
development. 

1967
01:42:01,300 --> 01:42:04,700
What I mean by that is earlier I
remember what I said, early on 

1968
01:42:04,700 --> 01:42:06,300
that, they had to learn how to 
be Outlaws. 

1969
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,700
So what I'm talking about. 
Healthy wasn't a spy when the 

1970
01:42:09,708 --> 01:42:13,100
war broke out. 
But she became one because she 

1971
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:14,100
needed. 
It was necessary. 

1972
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:15,300
She had to, you know, fight for 
her. 

1973
01:42:15,300 --> 01:42:19,300
People fight for whatever, she's
fighting for just like, Tom 

1974
01:42:19,300 --> 01:42:23,500
wasn't sending secret messages 
about the movements of phrase 

1975
01:42:23,500 --> 01:42:25,700
when he was just to travel and 
singer who wanted to get laid. 

1976
01:42:25,700 --> 01:42:28,900
You know, they didn't know how 
to do that stuff when this War 

1977
01:42:28,900 --> 01:42:33,400
Began their acquiring skill. 
It's was it like that movie 

1978
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,100
Taken? 
He's like I have a specific set 

1979
01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:36,500
of skills. 
Yeah, these day of acquired 

1980
01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:40,500
specific set of skills by being 
in war skills, they did not have

1981
01:42:40,500 --> 01:42:42,700
when the war hadn't broken out 
yet. 

1982
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:45,600
So I don't have any other 
suggestions. 

1983
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:49,500
I'm just saying anyone out there
could be beat WB and that's 

1984
01:42:49,500 --> 01:42:51,400
fascinating and fun. 
And interesting, you might 

1985
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,300
George can has laid some 
groundwork for some surprises, 

1986
01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:57,900
because it could come from any 
direction. 

1987
01:42:57,900 --> 01:42:59,200
They're just so many 
possibilities here. 

1988
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaking of people with unique 
skill sets, let's talk about the

1989
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:10,200
real world brother, without 
manners fan group earlier. 

1990
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,600
I mentioned that the Brotherhood
without banners fan group 

1991
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:18,800
appears in the appendices. 
Here is one of those quotes from

1992
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,400
George in the Feast for Crows 
appendix. 

1993
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:25,000
Thanks also to my readers. 
For all their kind and 

1994
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,600
supportive. 
Email for their patients. 

1995
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:33,900
Special tip of the helm to Lodi 
of the three fists pod, the 

1996
01:43:33,900 --> 01:43:39,200
devil bunny treble, and dash the
trivial Kings, sweet, caress of 

1997
01:43:39,208 --> 01:43:43,700
the wall Lannister, the squirrel
Slayer and the rest of the 

1998
01:43:43,700 --> 01:43:46,200
Brotherhood. 
Without banners that half mad 

1999
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:50,200
drunken Fellowship of Brave 
Knights and lovely ladies who 

2000
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:54,200
throw the best parties at 
worldcon year, after year, after

2001
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:56,800
year, we've been to some of 
those parties. 

2002
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,800
We were inducted to share and I 
into the Brotherhood without 

2003
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,900
banners in 2018 in San Jose, we 
were the free company of the 

2004
01:44:04,900 --> 01:44:08,700
Green Leaf each Year's inductees
get a they pivoted. 

2005
01:44:08,700 --> 01:44:13,100
They've rebranded it would, they
are now called free companies 

2006
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:16,500
and each year has a different 
free company originally the 

2007
01:44:16,500 --> 01:44:18,600
Brotherhood without banners in 
order to be inducted in the 

2008
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,900
brother without banners, you had
to go on a quest in which you 

2009
01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:27,300
found a food for George, that 
became kind of an unwieldy thing

2010
01:44:27,300 --> 01:44:30,400
to do every year. 
Are the they phased it out. 

2011
01:44:30,407 --> 01:44:34,800
So now in order to join the BWB 
and become a member of a free 

2012
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,900
company, you do this shot of 
this liquor this like Fireball 

2013
01:44:38,900 --> 01:44:41,000
whiskey type thing. 
Everyone it was you do like this

2014
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,600
liquor. 
If you're not if you don't drink

2015
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,300
alcohol it was like a habanero 
drink. 

2016
01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:46,900
It was so spicy if you drink 
alcohol like me you don't have 

2017
01:44:46,900 --> 01:44:49,700
to take a shot of an alcohol. 
You can take a shot of something

2018
01:44:49,700 --> 01:44:53,600
non-alcoholic don't worry. 
They are not biased against 

2019
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,900
those of us who don't drink but 
it's not quite as good to join 

2020
01:44:56,900 --> 01:45:01,000
the BWB these days but it has 
these fun group The themes. 

2021
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:05,200
And so yeah we're free company 
of the Greenleaf ostensibly for 

2022
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:09,000
the California and red and 
redwoods and all that. 

2023
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:13,600
But really green leaf is pot. 
2018 was the first year that 

2024
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:17,200
worldcon was in a weed legal 
City. 

2025
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:20,700
So they they addressed that 
accordingly. 

2026
01:45:21,500 --> 01:45:24,400
The BWB doesn't ever take the 
dark turn the book Brotherhood 

2027
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,900
does but now they're probably 
never gonna be led by Undead or 

2028
01:45:27,907 --> 01:45:29,800
anything like that. 
So we probably have to worry 

2029
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,500
about that. 
And we hope to see lots of them 

2030
01:45:31,500 --> 01:45:35,700
this year at Seattle worldcon, 
which is in the middle of 

2031
01:45:35,700 --> 01:45:36,800
August. 
Yeah. 

2032
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:40,500
And you as well, folks, come to 
worldcon and let us know if 

2033
01:45:40,500 --> 01:45:42,500
you're coming and you'll get to 
meet us in person. 

2034
01:45:42,500 --> 01:45:45,200
And you'll probably get inducted
into a free company. 

2035
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:49,200
You very well. 
Likely, will it show up be a 

2036
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,100
part of it forever? 
and now, our quote of the week, 

2037
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:56,100
Stories never really ended. 
They just rolled one into the 

2038
01:45:56,108 --> 01:45:58,400
next. 
The past was never wholly lost, 

2039
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,300
and the future was never quite 
found. 

2040
01:46:00,300 --> 01:46:02,800
We wander forever in a pathless 
forest. 

2041
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:06,900
Dropping with weariness as home.
Draws us back and the Grail 

2042
01:46:06,900 --> 01:46:08,800
drives us on and we never 
arrive. 

2043
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:14,000
The quest never ends. 
That's the bright sword by Lev 

2044
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:15,500
Grossman. 
It's an Arthurian novel as you 

2045
01:46:15,508 --> 01:46:18,600
probably guessed. 
By The Mention Of The Grail. 

2046
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:22,200
I mentioned this book last week 
and I wanted to mention it one 

2047
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:26,500
more time because it was good 
enough for multiple mentions, I 

2048
01:46:26,500 --> 01:46:28,800
really enjoyed it. 
It was written in 2023. 

2049
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:31,400
Loved Grossman is the author of 
The Magicians. 

2050
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,100
Very successful, very quality 
writing. 

2051
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:36,800
Really liked it. 
If you liked our three in stuff 

2052
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:41,900
with a modern streak to it, 
still our three in a little bit 

2053
01:46:41,900 --> 01:46:44,100
of modern element to it. 
I really appreciate it. 

2054
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:45,800
Check it out. 
You can get it through our 

2055
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,100
website. 
We've got Amazon links, you can 

2056
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:51,400
order it, hard, copy, or use the
audible link? 

2057
01:46:52,300 --> 01:46:54,300
To get the audiobook version of 
it. 

2058
01:46:54,300 --> 01:46:57,800
And if you haven't used audible,
before you can sign up for a 

2059
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:02,300
free trial through us which the 
link is on the website and that 

2060
01:47:02,300 --> 01:47:04,800
will get you one free download, 
so you could get the bright 

2061
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,700
sword for free. 
Try out Audible and if you don't

2062
01:47:07,700 --> 01:47:10,500
like it, just cancel the 
subscription, you've done 

2063
01:47:10,500 --> 01:47:12,700
nothing, you've cost yourself 
nothing, but you got a free book

2064
01:47:12,700 --> 01:47:20,200
out of it. all right, let's 
discuss briefly who used to be 

2065
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:23,600
in the group who left who might 
still be in the group and they 

2066
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,300
were not sure about who they 
have as allies that we know of 

2067
01:47:26,300 --> 01:47:31,300
and then we'll finish up with 
Theories, looking ahead and 

2068
01:47:31,300 --> 01:47:35,300
theories. 
Under lady stoneheart, the lack 

2069
01:47:35,300 --> 01:47:40,100
of justice and loss of their 
original Mission caused a lot of

2070
01:47:40,100 --> 01:47:43,300
people to leave. 
They aren't bound to it as 

2071
01:47:43,300 --> 01:47:46,100
tightly as thoros or perhaps as 
just. 

2072
01:47:46,900 --> 01:47:49,100
Have no other options like 
someone like, Lem. 

2073
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:53,100
But some of them did in 
particular, edric Dayne was with

2074
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:58,300
the Brotherhood as a squire of 
Barrack, and he felt duty-bound 

2075
01:47:58,300 --> 01:48:02,900
to Barrack even in his Undead to
continue on. 

2076
01:48:02,900 --> 01:48:05,900
That's what Squires do, right? 
He never did get his Knight Hood

2077
01:48:05,900 --> 01:48:07,500
I suppose. 
Well or he didn't know he did he

2078
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,200
was not under like everybody 
else. 

2079
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:12,500
I suppose other no one calls 
him, sir edric but he's Lord, 

2080
01:48:12,500 --> 01:48:15,600
edric no one calls him Sir Eric 
either because he's Lord Barrack

2081
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:16,400
so there. 
Yeah, there you go. 

2082
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,800
And that's why he clearly had 
some place he could go because 

2083
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,400
he's Lord, edric Danes 
starfalls. 

2084
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:26,100
His, so whenever he wanted to 
leave the brother at he had of a

2085
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:30,100
castle waiting for him. 
I gotta believe a lot of the 

2086
01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:32,600
other characters who left went 
with him. 

2087
01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:36,700
In particular angle the Archer 
because Anne guy the Archer's 

2088
01:48:36,700 --> 01:48:40,100
dornish. 
So going to adornis Lord makes a

2089
01:48:40,108 --> 01:48:42,100
ton of sense. 
Especially when the alternative 

2090
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:45,800
is, you know, living in caves 
being hunted and following the 

2091
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,200
orders of lady stoneheart who's 
a rather creepy individual. but 

2092
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,500
there's also, A lot of these 
names that we threw out who 

2093
01:48:51,500 --> 01:48:54,500
their maybe a little too obscure
for us to have follow-up with 

2094
01:48:54,500 --> 01:48:56,000
yet. 
We might hear these names later.

2095
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,700
George's is pretty thorough even
with these super minor 

2096
01:48:58,700 --> 01:49:02,000
characters. 
Why do the Miller swampy Meg? 

2097
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:06,500
Jonah, putting foot meredo moon 
to you love John. 

2098
01:49:06,500 --> 01:49:13,000
Oh nothing. 
He not he really funny names. 

2099
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:18,300
My favorite is swampy Meg. 
Yeah, I swampy wouldn't be as 

2100
01:49:18,300 --> 01:49:21,300
horny to me except for the whole
Cersei and tayden, Maryweather 

2101
01:49:21,300 --> 01:49:22,600
thing. 
Yeah, that's true. 

2102
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,600
There's one swampy Meg from 
here. 

2103
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:30,400
Hello AKA green beard the tie 
Rashi sell sword. 

2104
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:31,700
That worked with the Brotherhood
for a while. 

2105
01:49:31,708 --> 01:49:34,600
He might still be with the 
Brotherhood but he may have left

2106
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:37,800
to just do food missions because
we know that pillow and the Mad 

2107
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:42,000
Huntsman left. 
With sandor's gold a long time 

2108
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,900
ago to go buy food and go bring 
it back for the for the 

2109
01:49:44,900 --> 01:49:47,100
commoners. 
We have not heard from them 

2110
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:50,300
since they may be just doing 
that. 

2111
01:49:50,300 --> 01:49:53,700
They may just be Distributing 
food but for all we know they're

2112
01:49:53,700 --> 01:49:56,900
dead or something else happened,
but they're still out there. 

2113
01:49:56,900 --> 01:49:59,500
As far as we haven't heard of 
either of them dying. 

2114
01:49:59,500 --> 01:50:01,800
The Matt Huntsman is 
particularly vicious and 

2115
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:06,100
dangerous but still mostly a 
good guy as long as he's aimed 

2116
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:09,800
at other bad guys. 
For sure guys, that we know are 

2117
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:15,300
still with the group with 
stoneheart, thoros Harwin lamb. 

2118
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:19,400
Tom Jack be lucky who's also One
Eyed Jacks. 

2119
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:29,600
Another ridiculous one there, 
beardless dick, that dude 

2120
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:33,800
belongs in a porno and Dennis 
The most ordinary of the names 

2121
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:34,600
there. 
Dennis. 

2122
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:38,900
So, some of them are spies Tom's
in river, run, you know, 

2123
01:50:38,900 --> 01:50:43,900
gendry's, you know, at the end 
doing Smith work pretending to 

2124
01:50:43,900 --> 01:50:46,600
be a Smith. 
Well, he is a Smith but not 

2125
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,100
pretending to pretending to not 
be a part of the Brotherhood. 

2126
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:52,300
Meanwhile, working on their 
weapons, for an armor for them. 

2127
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,700
People who are not like 
explicitly in the Brotherhood 

2128
01:50:55,700 --> 01:51:00,900
but are absolutely allies. 
Include Sharna, husband boy and 

2129
01:51:00,900 --> 01:51:02,500
hot pie. 
At the end of the kneeling man. 

2130
01:51:02,500 --> 01:51:04,900
Remember, Sharna husband and 
boy, were the ones who tried to 

2131
01:51:04,900 --> 01:51:08,200
sit up the ambushes and we use 
them as an example of sort of a 

2132
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,700
moral banditry that's associated
with the Brotherhood, even 

2133
01:51:11,700 --> 01:51:16,200
though this room of people was 
they're feeding children, right?

2134
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:18,500
So that's good, they're feeding 
orphans, but they're robbing 

2135
01:51:18,500 --> 01:51:21,500
just regular folk to feed these 
orphans, which is not so good. 

2136
01:51:21,500 --> 01:51:24,800
There are so robbing, Landers 
and stars to feed the orphans, 

2137
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:28,200
which I mined a lot less and you
all probably too. 

2138
01:51:28,900 --> 01:51:32,200
All those girls at the Tony set,
tansy, Bella, all those girls at

2139
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:36,300
the peach were happy to give 
free favors to the Brotherhood 

2140
01:51:36,300 --> 01:51:38,400
because well, it's a service 
taking offer. 

2141
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:42,800
It doesn't cost them any money 
and it helps the morale of the 

2142
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,000
troops who were helping defend 
them, you know. 

2143
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,700
Jane Willow heddle and the 
orphans at the crossroads in 

2144
01:51:48,700 --> 01:51:51,400
that Gendry and the others are 
there, helping take care of as 

2145
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,000
well, similar situation as the 
end of the kneeling, man, we've 

2146
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:59,500
got lady ravela Smallwood AKA 
lady, revella Swan at Acorn Hall

2147
01:51:59,500 --> 01:52:02,500
who, you know, the one that had 
that really meaningful sad 

2148
01:52:02,500 --> 01:52:05,800
moment with Aria where she's 
talking about, you know, the 

2149
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,500
horrors of war and how, you 
know, you shouldn't have to go 

2150
01:52:08,500 --> 01:52:11,700
through all that and how she 
lost her own child, things like 

2151
01:52:11,700 --> 01:52:15,200
that, we mentioned, Lord Lyman, 
leichester and maester ruin, 

2152
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,400
that's Lord, Lyman maester. 
So they're both sympathizers as 

2153
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,000
well. 
That's a pretty big one because 

2154
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:23,800
that's a noble house, not just a
small Ghost of Fireheart 

2155
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:25,700
obviously and we talked about 
her. 

2156
01:52:25,700 --> 01:52:27,600
So there's a lot and there's so 
many unnamed. 

2157
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,900
As we said as Harwin indicated 
there's 100s of not thousands of

2158
01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:34,200
people and the whole point is 
that it's a nameless Mass, it's 

2159
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,900
the common foe. 
It's not necessarily about the 

2160
01:52:36,900 --> 01:52:40,700
individuals, it's about the 
whole even though the 

2161
01:52:40,700 --> 01:52:43,200
individuals are important and 
very interesting is characters, 

2162
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,300
In terms of their goals of the 
brotherhood's goals. 

2163
01:52:46,300 --> 01:52:49,100
It's about the whole So yeah, 
what's coming next? 

2164
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:52,000
This is a lot out there. 
There's a lot of open 

2165
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:56,200
possibilities and the vast 
number of characters involved. 

2166
01:52:57,300 --> 01:52:59,900
Stone hearts looking for Ari and
she wants to kill phrase and 

2167
01:52:59,900 --> 01:53:01,400
Lannisters. 
Is that going to come to a head 

2168
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:03,100
at some point? 
Is she going to be part of the 

2169
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:06,700
attack on River Run? 
As she gonna recruit Blackfish, 

2170
01:53:06,700 --> 01:53:11,300
is Blackfish gonna be like, 
whoa, you're my niece and you're

2171
01:53:11,300 --> 01:53:14,100
dead. 
What the hell nymeria? 

2172
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:15,500
The Dire Wolf. 
We haven't even mentioned her 

2173
01:53:15,500 --> 01:53:17,000
yet. 
Like, she's out there, too. 

2174
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:20,000
Like they're gonna she gonna 
play a role as are you gonna 

2175
01:53:20,700 --> 01:53:25,200
From Bravo like participate 
remotely you know, there's 

2176
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:29,600
there's a tale from the world of
Ice and Fire of long ago, when 

2177
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,600
the children of the forest 
emerged from a Hollow Hill, 

2178
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,300
that's the exact phrase used to 
send hundreds of wolves again 

2179
01:53:36,300 --> 01:53:39,400
and all camp. 
Hundreds of wolves. 

2180
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:42,200
We've got the Hollow Hill and 
we've got hundreds of wolves in 

2181
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:45,400
my areas pack or maybe 100 more 
than 100 anyway. 

2182
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:49,900
So that I will go with 100s 
maybe and I'll Camp could be a 

2183
01:53:49,900 --> 01:53:54,700
Lannister camper just something 
like that really got Echoes of 

2184
01:53:54,700 --> 01:53:56,300
possible foreshadowing there 
doesn't it? 

2185
01:53:57,300 --> 01:53:59,600
They could appear in the T while
prologue we've talked about the 

2186
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:03,200
tile prologue and how it's set 
up to be probably an ambush of 

2187
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:09,100
the Lannister forces bringing 
edmure and Jane to casually Rock

2188
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:12,600
Jamie's very concerned about it,
Ambush on the way. 

2189
01:54:13,500 --> 01:54:18,900
And in fact, his concern might 
help the attack on river run 

2190
01:54:18,900 --> 01:54:22,700
because he's so concerned about 
an ambush to free admirer and 

2191
01:54:22,700 --> 01:54:25,700
Jane that he gives 400 men to 
this party to protect them, 

2192
01:54:25,700 --> 01:54:29,100
which clearly is denoting River 
on some of its Defenders. 

2193
01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:35,100
So by bulking up the defense of 
this hostage party, he may have 

2194
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:37,000
made it easier to invade River 
Run. 

2195
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:41,200
Hmm. 
And that's what is such a big 

2196
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:42,700
challenge for. 
Jamie is no matter where he 

2197
01:54:42,700 --> 01:54:45,200
moves his troops. 
The brothers gonna know about it

2198
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:48,000
right away either from their 
internal spies or just from 

2199
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,500
watching the roads. 
You can't move 400 men around 

2200
01:54:50,500 --> 01:54:52,200
the Riverland, without them 
seeing it. 

2201
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,900
Everyone's on their side. 
Any single person Witnesses this

2202
01:54:55,900 --> 01:54:57,400
group, they passed the 
information on. 

2203
01:54:58,300 --> 01:55:02,400
There's no hiding that. 
So many possibilities there, you

2204
01:55:02,407 --> 01:55:04,800
get the direwolves. 
You got Blackfish, you got the 

2205
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,300
brother themselves. 
You've got. 

2206
01:55:06,308 --> 01:55:10,400
Yeah, you've got things that we 
haven't thought of what if they 

2207
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,600
end up going north that's one 
thing that happened on the TV 

2208
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:15,200
show that might have some 
semblance of Truth or at least 

2209
01:55:15,208 --> 01:55:17,400
possibility that they decide. 
Well if we're really fighting 

2210
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:22,100
for the realm and we're losing 
supposed to stand against the 

2211
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:25,200
darkness and Shadow and cold. 
If they hear that's really 

2212
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,600
happening, you could absolutely 
see them going there. 

2213
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:31,900
Catlin's original Arc, the 
George wrote out for her. 

2214
01:55:31,900 --> 01:55:36,100
The original plan was that she 
would die beyond the wall and I 

2215
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:39,700
think it may have even involved 
the flame passing from her to 

2216
01:55:39,700 --> 01:55:41,000
John. 
That's not as explicit. 

2217
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,700
But you could see that happening
before he decided to maybe have 

2218
01:55:44,700 --> 01:55:46,700
that be melisandre's thing 
instead because the timing 

2219
01:55:46,700 --> 01:55:48,600
doesn't really work on that. 
Like she's still weigh in the 

2220
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:52,000
South and John is dead already 
like is that really gonna But it

2221
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,900
is a possibility other than 
Melisandre, we do have another 

2222
01:55:53,900 --> 01:55:57,300
option for John coming back. 
She also would want to defend 

2223
01:55:57,300 --> 01:56:01,200
the north, let alone Catlin and 
her followers being Delores. 

2224
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:04,800
Now, they would want to stop the
others just for the regular 

2225
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:09,900
reasons of Catlins family is 
Winterfell and if that would be 

2226
01:56:09,900 --> 01:56:12,700
one of the first castles to 
fall, if they get through the 

2227
01:56:12,700 --> 01:56:14,400
wall, right? 
So that's just kind of 

2228
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,200
straightforward but what if 
there's just a new leader, what 

2229
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:20,600
a stone hearts, flame dies in 
The riverlands and someone else 

2230
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,800
takes over? 
What if yeah I mean Eric passed 

2231
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:25,000
it to her. 
She could pass it to somebody 

2232
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:26,800
else. 
We've obviously just gone over 

2233
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:28,700
the possibility of John but it 
doesn't have to be him. 

2234
01:56:28,700 --> 01:56:31,000
It could be somebody else or 
could be someone else and then 

2235
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,400
John. 
Passing of the flame thing is 

2236
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,800
really interesting and probably 
not done yet. 

2237
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,600
Will they fulfill their original
Mission? 

2238
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:42,200
Sir, Gregor is still out there 
that was the first task they had

2239
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:46,400
and they still haven't done it. 
Will they decide to or get an 

2240
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:47,900
opportunity to make good on 
that? 

2241
01:56:47,900 --> 01:56:51,200
Which is weird because he's dead
also. 

2242
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:54,600
So you got a dead Catlin leading
a group that's original Mission 

2243
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:57,600
was to kill a man who's now dead
but still walking around. 

2244
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:01,200
He's obviously more tied to 
sandor's Ark and Cersei and 

2245
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:02,200
stuff going on at King's 
Landing. 

2246
01:57:03,100 --> 01:57:06,000
But you could see them being 
involved somehow, because 

2247
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:07,600
they're involved with sandor, 
another ways. 

2248
01:57:08,300 --> 01:57:12,600
Will they discover that amongst 
their ranks? 

2249
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,400
They call themselves King's Men,
Robert. 

2250
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,000
The king is through their 
furniture. 

2251
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,400
Will they realize or discover 
that they have? 

2252
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:24,100
The King's son as a member 
Gendry is this right there, 

2253
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:27,500
blacksmithing away with his 
coal, black hair and his blue 

2254
01:57:27,500 --> 01:57:33,100
eyes looking seed as strongly. 
That's they might be like, hey, 

2255
01:57:33,100 --> 01:57:35,900
this guy should be the king. 
They may promote their own 

2256
01:57:35,900 --> 01:57:39,800
claimant be like, hey, this this
is Robert's son, he should be 

2257
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,800
the King. 
Joffrey is not really Robert 

2258
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:46,300
son, and he's dead anyway. 
And Tom and Marcella will be 

2259
01:57:46,300 --> 01:57:48,700
dead by the time this comes 
along, right? 

2260
01:57:49,700 --> 01:57:54,500
That would be a wild way for all
those iOS at the brother's 

2261
01:57:54,500 --> 01:57:56,500
handed out like yeah, we're 
gonna take your food, your horse

2262
01:57:56,500 --> 01:57:58,100
your stuff. 
Here's an IOU though. 

2263
01:57:58,100 --> 01:58:00,800
Sandor Clegane, here's your IOU,
just cash this in later. 

2264
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,200
What if those are actually good 
later? 

2265
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:06,500
What if like Gendry becomes the 
Lord of Storms? 

2266
01:58:06,500 --> 01:58:11,000
And he's like anyone with a 
Brotherhood without banners, I 

2267
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:15,000
owe you. 
I will pay that Much will show 

2268
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,200
up with like forgeries and a few
of them have a real ones. 

2269
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:19,200
You know, I could see that 
happening, of course, there's 

2270
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,300
also edric storm. 
He might be the one ends up Lord

2271
01:58:21,300 --> 01:58:23,000
of Storms. 
And I was no, there's no 

2272
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:26,700
automatic for Gendry here, but I
love the idea that the guy that 

2273
01:58:26,700 --> 01:58:32,100
they're followed this dead 
King's amongst their ranks and 

2274
01:58:32,100 --> 01:58:33,900
neither he nor them knows about 
it. 

2275
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:38,700
So any of the above many of you 
could happen and it's it's 

2276
01:58:38,700 --> 01:58:41,100
difficult to get into the weeds 
because there's so many 

2277
01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:44,400
possibilities and it's just like
trying to figure out what order 

2278
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,000
these things might happen in is 
tricky enough. 

2279
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:48,900
But that whole revenge for the 
Red Wedding thing. 

2280
01:58:48,900 --> 01:58:50,300
The Red Wedding 2.0, that's a 
big one. 

2281
01:58:50,300 --> 01:58:53,900
That's seems real likely. 
The slaughter of new inhabitants

2282
01:58:53,900 --> 01:58:57,000
of river and things to Tom's 
infiltration stoneheart or what 

2283
01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:58,700
that too. 
She would want that maybe as 

2284
01:58:58,700 --> 01:59:00,900
much, or more than defending 
Winterfell from the others 

2285
01:59:00,900 --> 01:59:03,500
because at least one enemy she 
hates more one. 

2286
01:59:03,500 --> 01:59:06,000
Might be more dangerous but 
she's also farther away from 

2287
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,100
them. 
So hmm. 

2288
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:12,000
Another possibility is freeing 
of political prisoners who have 

2289
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,800
a grudge against the Lannisters 
or phrase like like great John 

2290
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,900
great. 
John's a cat was kept taking 

2291
01:59:16,907 --> 01:59:18,700
captive after the Red Wedding. 
He's still in captivity. 

2292
01:59:18,700 --> 01:59:21,300
Imagine that dude getting free 
breaking his chains. 

2293
01:59:21,300 --> 01:59:24,900
That's their schedule. 
Watch out phrase and Lannisters 

2294
01:59:24,900 --> 01:59:26,700
have a great John ever gets 
about back out again. 

2295
01:59:27,700 --> 01:59:29,800
House mallister are imprisoned 
in their own castle. 

2296
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:33,200
Patrick master Jason Master, 
they are held captive by 

2297
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:36,900
Blackwater in their own castle. 
If some commenters some 

2298
01:59:36,900 --> 01:59:39,200
Brotherhood without banners 
maybe infiltrates there, maybe 

2299
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:42,000
they already have an infiltrated
days, you know, let them out, 

2300
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,200
let them free, get them out, 
something like that. 

2301
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:49,800
That's another very staunch on 
fighting till till the end and 

2302
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:52,800
it was only because Patrick 
maester was made a hostage and 

2303
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,800
Jason was like, okay, you got my
son you win. 

2304
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:59,000
But if it wasn't for that, he 
would have fought on as Taiwan 

2305
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,900
said, for honors sake. 
So if Patrick and Jason are 

2306
02:00:02,900 --> 02:00:05,900
free, then honor will move to 
the front again, and the mouse 

2307
02:00:05,900 --> 02:00:08,600
tours will take the field 
despite all these possibilities.

2308
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:11,000
Despite all these interesting 
options that could happen for 

2309
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:14,600
the Brotherhood, it seems like 
From a general perspective. 

2310
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:16,700
It looks dark, right? 
It doesn't look great. 

2311
02:00:16,700 --> 02:00:19,600
So on the subject of their 
future when they discuss it, 

2312
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:24,200
when thoros tells Brienne what 
he sees, He doesn't know, he 

2313
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:28,100
doesn't have an answer quote, we
were King's Men when we began 

2314
02:00:28,100 --> 02:00:32,600
the man told her, but King's Men
Must Have a king. 

2315
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:36,900
And we have none. 
We were brothers too, but now 

2316
02:00:36,900 --> 02:00:41,600
our Brotherhood is broken. 
I do not know who we are of 

2317
02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:44,400
truth. 
Be told nor where we might be 

2318
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:48,000
going. 
I only know the road is dark. 

2319
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:51,600
The fires have not shown me. 
What lies at its end. 

2320
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:55,400
I know where it ends. 
I have seen the corpses in the 

2321
02:00:55,407 --> 02:00:58,200
trees. 
That last line was in her 

2322
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:00,300
thoughts. 
She did say that authors but she

2323
02:01:00,300 --> 02:01:03,900
sincerely believes it. 
She's has seen lots of hanging 

2324
02:01:03,900 --> 02:01:06,300
people. 
Many of them Outlaws and she 

2325
02:01:06,300 --> 02:01:08,600
thinks that's really the. 
Only way it could go like what 

2326
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:09,900
other end is there for an 
outlaw. 

2327
02:01:09,900 --> 02:01:12,600
Right? 
Well, there are other endings 

2328
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:14,800
there are exceptions. 
There's occasionally, there's 

2329
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:19,100
pardons maybe they could maybe 
some could take the black maybe 

2330
02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:24,300
to SOS definitely wind up in 
bizarre, fandom theories. 

2331
02:01:26,100 --> 02:01:27,700
If Redemption is to come for any
of them. 

2332
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:32,700
Well, this brings us back to the
north going to fight the 

2333
02:01:32,700 --> 02:01:38,200
Ultimate Enemy would be as 
thorough says A way to look at 

2334
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:42,100
the ending of a person as what 
defines them and not what came 

2335
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:44,000
before. 
Because if you end, especially 

2336
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:48,200
if you die, fighting Mankind's, 
Ultimate Enemy, I do think 

2337
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:50,300
that's. 
As good as you can do. 

2338
02:01:50,300 --> 02:01:54,000
I mean, you can't make up for 
other things, but that's giving 

2339
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:56,400
your life. 
That's you, get giving 

2340
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:57,500
everything, its giving 
everything you have. 

2341
02:01:57,500 --> 02:02:00,800
So I think that that counts, I 
think if you're going to take 

2342
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:03,600
that step, I would I would 
certainly be willing to overlook

2343
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:06,300
some past crimes. 
If you give your life and 

2344
02:02:06,300 --> 02:02:11,700
defensive everyone, And how they
slightly influenced Aria? 

2345
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:14,700
May hit it how they may help 
change someone else. 

2346
02:02:14,700 --> 02:02:20,500
For example, they have Jamie, 
he's an enemy, he's hostage but,

2347
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:25,100
Jaime and Brienne together. 
They may move the Brotherhood, 

2348
02:02:25,100 --> 02:02:28,300
they may cause him to rethink 
them, some things or challenge 

2349
02:02:28,300 --> 02:02:32,200
them in some ways and if we know
Jamie is to be partly redeemed, 

2350
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:37,600
or if we expect that maybe this 
is To come in part with his 

2351
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,000
association, with the 
Brotherhood. 

2352
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:41,000
Maybe the Brotherhood is where 
he learns. 

2353
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:42,700
Some of these things that he 
hasn't learned yet. 

2354
02:02:42,700 --> 02:02:45,800
He learns more about the play of
the play to the common foe. 

2355
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:47,900
He learns more about what his 
past actions have caused. 

2356
02:02:48,900 --> 02:02:52,500
He learns more about what this 
war has done about what his 

2357
02:02:52,500 --> 02:02:55,400
family has done. 
Just growth introspection, 

2358
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:57,700
things, that might happen for 
Jamie that are already 

2359
02:02:57,700 --> 02:02:59,700
happening. 
That might happen more. 

2360
02:02:59,700 --> 02:03:03,300
And the Brotherhood may be vital
on that Journey, especially 

2361
02:03:03,300 --> 02:03:04,900
because of his connection to 
some of the other characters. 

2362
02:03:04,900 --> 02:03:08,400
Remember the very beginning of 
Brands first dream where he 

2363
02:03:09,300 --> 02:03:14,100
Shares the, the mountain black 
bloody Helm in front of Jamie 

2364
02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:17,700
with Jamie and Sandra standing 
in front, there are all tied 

2365
02:03:17,700 --> 02:03:20,200
together. 
The brother is all tied to that 

2366
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:21,200
too. 
The brother is connection to 

2367
02:03:21,208 --> 02:03:24,500
sand or Gregor is undeniable. 
And now they have the connection

2368
02:03:24,500 --> 02:03:26,800
to Jamie too. 
These things are hard to 

2369
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:28,500
proceed, but the groundwork is 
there. 

2370
02:03:29,300 --> 02:03:31,200
Jamie's Redemption. 
The Brotherhood redemptions 

2371
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:33,700
stoneheart. 
Brienne these. 

2372
02:03:33,700 --> 02:03:38,300
They're very tied and I'm so 
excited to see where it goes. 

2373
02:03:38,300 --> 02:03:40,100
Whether it goes north, whether 
it stays in the riverlands where

2374
02:03:40,100 --> 02:03:43,900
it goes, whether it's both 
something unexpected, so many 

2375
02:03:43,907 --> 02:03:46,600
members of the Brotherhood, it's
just by itself that creates so 

2376
02:03:46,600 --> 02:03:49,200
many possibilities. 
And when you throw in all the 

2377
02:03:49,208 --> 02:03:52,400
supernatural elements, it really
is even more mysterious. 

2378
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:55,400
Like there's this we can't even 
precede things we can't predict 

2379
02:03:56,400 --> 02:04:00,000
The Brotherhood I think are so 
much more interesting than they 

2380
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:03,200
appear on the surface. 
When you really Dive In I'm only

2381
02:04:03,208 --> 02:04:07,600
excited or am very excited. 
I'm only excited only excited, I

2382
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:09,500
have no other emotion. 
I have no other emotions 

2383
02:04:09,500 --> 02:04:14,000
excitement is my only gear know,
going through all this and 

2384
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:16,100
reading it all to you and going 
through this episode definitely 

2385
02:04:16,100 --> 02:04:18,000
has me excited for the future of
this group, they're there. 

2386
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,300
But then it was so many unknowns
and so much, they're just so 

2387
02:04:21,300 --> 02:04:22,700
rich. 
So many different characters. 

2388
02:04:22,700 --> 02:04:25,400
It's we can relate to all these 
characters, a lot more it's 

2389
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:26,500
important, really. 
They're not rich at all. 

2390
02:04:26,500 --> 02:04:29,500
These characters are a lot more 
relatable, and a lot of ways, 

2391
02:04:29,508 --> 02:04:32,900
then, a lot of the Nobles 
because they're Nobles, like, 

2392
02:04:32,900 --> 02:04:35,100
they're rich, they're 
privileged, like, we can't 

2393
02:04:35,108 --> 02:04:38,100
relate to that, like, I can't 
relate to being so being a 

2394
02:04:38,100 --> 02:04:40,700
refugee, either to be fair. 
Like, I don't identify with that

2395
02:04:40,700 --> 02:04:43,200
not because I couldn't but 
because I haven't, I haven't 

2396
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:45,800
been through that. 
Let's talk about the trivia 

2397
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:47,500
answer here. 
Let me read the question again, 

2398
02:04:47,500 --> 02:04:50,400
which of these characters is not
in the Brotherhood without 

2399
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:54,000
banners Melly likely Luke johno 
nutting. 

2400
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:58,700
Hello traveler swampy, Meg, 
putting foot Merit, oh Moon 

2401
02:04:58,700 --> 02:05:03,600
Town, the answer is trouble is a
Member of the real brother. 

2402
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,000
How about banners? 
The fan group, I threw her in 

2403
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,400
there for fun. 
A couple y'all would have 

2404
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:11,400
recognized that because you know
her and her know of her that 

2405
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:13,400
would be fun. 
She sounds like she fits in 

2406
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:15,500
there right? 
But she's not fictional. 

2407
02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:19,600
Yeah, cool. 
So hopefully some of y'all got 

2408
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:21,200
that. 
Fun thing. 

2409
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:25,800
Now, Spotify has a has released 
a new feature that I always end 

2410
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:27,600
the episodes by telling you more
episodes. 

2411
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:28,900
You can listen to that relate to
this. 

2412
02:05:28,907 --> 02:05:31,600
Well, now Spotify allows us to 
link them. 

2413
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:35,500
So if you listen on Spotify, you
should be links going forward to

2414
02:05:35,500 --> 02:05:38,600
episodes, like, thoros of 
mirror, the ghost of high heart 

2415
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:42,200
and Brendan Blackfish. 
So those should be just right 

2416
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:44,200
there in the description was a 
man. 

2417
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:45,500
Really. 
Yeah. 

2418
02:05:45,500 --> 02:05:48,300
Oh, my bad. 
Sorry trouble. 

2419
02:05:48,300 --> 02:05:50,100
I didn't mean to misgender you 
there. 

2420
02:05:50,100 --> 02:05:55,800
I just heard wrong or you my 
thing and was like yeah, I might

2421
02:05:55,808 --> 02:05:58,500
have just assumed that from the 
beginning trouble is a forum and

2422
02:05:58,500 --> 02:06:04,100
a man, okay, my bad honest 
mistake thanks to Stephen 

2423
02:06:04,100 --> 02:06:07,200
outwell race for the Iron Throne
dot wordpress.com. 

2424
02:06:08,300 --> 02:06:12,100
And of course Nina, good Queen 
Ali dot, tumblr.com one, L in 

2425
02:06:12,100 --> 02:06:15,000
alley, great takes from both of 
them, I haven't shouted out 

2426
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:19,000
Steven in a while, but man, he 
his, I read his whole every 

2427
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:22,100
Aria, chapter review he did for 
a Storm of Swords and maybe you 

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notice from the quality of this 
episode. 

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Hmm. 
Thanks as well to Joey Townsend 

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for his great music that we use 
and in our show that we've been 

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using for many years, and to 
Michael, Clarke felt for his 

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maps and video intro. 
You can get things from the 

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Clarita. 
Docks Shop download maps, map 

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files, and have them printed 
over it a Kinkos or something 

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like that. 
That's what we've done. 

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And the website is k, l a r, a d
o x dot de that's Clara. 

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Do Until next time, on behalf of
a show, we will see you again 

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very soon. 
And you know what to do until 

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then. 
Valarie readus.