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Early on in Arya's chapters, her
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and SEPTA. 
Mordain's judgement on all or 

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some of the above. 
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summer child because in world 
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Naive adults, not for actual 
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But comparing those early 
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night and day or black and 
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Since then, so much has changed.
This is a girl who ate worms and

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didn't bat an eye, and she did 
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Once when it was a wormy apples 
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And then there was the worm in 
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Man. 
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was ever afraid of SEPTA 
Mordane, right? 

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Like that's she's come a long 
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It it hasn't even been that long
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guardian, since her death even. 
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because so much has happened, 
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It's it's hard not to think of 
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because of all she's been 
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But really, not that much actual
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of the series to where we're at 
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In that time, she's been through
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Loss of family. 
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Riverlands during wartime, 
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the worst people in Westeros 
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upon the Riverlands, and she 
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Anne Marie Lorch, Gregor 
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Bolton, Tywin Lannister. 
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Now she's killed people as well 
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trained by the best killers in 
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unaware that she has skills even
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By that of course I mean skin 
changing. 

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They might have watched her hide
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she's a warg. 
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that eventually that could get 
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And Arya Stark has a list of 
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Because Arya wants that. 
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And she's supposed to be no one,
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They want her to give up the 
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not a list made by a servant of 
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So that's at odds, and it's also
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write the list in the 1st place,
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we'll talk about today. 
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A Clash of Kings fairly early 
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the Red Wedding. 
She's also kidnapped by someone 

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on that list and is overheard 
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Black and White. 
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dive deep into that kill list, 
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it, whether they're still alive 
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added later, information she 
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mind on certain people. 
How it continues to impact her 

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story, her relationship with 
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Westeros podcast. 
Hello and welcome back everyone 

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to an Aria focused episode. 
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At the end, I'll give the answer
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relate to this one. 
By our count, Aria has killed 

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eight people. 
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So maybe there's more kills, but
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How many names of those eight 

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people were named on her list? 
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names has she personally crossed
off the list with her own 

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action, with her own blade or 
her own poison or what have you?

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I don't. 
It doesn't count when she gives 

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the name to Jockin. 
Those don't count. 

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How many of those eight were on 
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You'll be able to get that from 
listening to the episode, if you

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don't know already, because 
we're certainly going to go 

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through the details. 
Here are the different sections 

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we'll be talking about today. 
We've got the origin of the 

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prayer. 
We've got the Jockin of the Lamp

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brings three death wishes. 
We've got the full list, meaning

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the full Arias list. 
Then we've got the ones who were

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dead on that list and the ones 
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mostly thanks to the Cleganes 

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cause. 
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that and just kind of rounded 
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and the circumstances, some of 
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between the prayer and the many 
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call it the prayer versus the 
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As I said during the intro, 
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very well. 
That's a developing situation. 

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And then the future of the list.
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where we discuss potential ads 
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or two, and the outlook for 
those particular cases, how they

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might play out, what Ari may or 
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Maybe she won't have time to 
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It's ironic that Ned in the 1st 
chapter takes the boys to that 

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execution, because in their 
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in their world, they're supposed
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death. 
Men are supposed to be the deaf 

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dealers in their world, right? 
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that way for the Starks, does 
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Arguably, Arya becomes the most 
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if not the most, certainly quite
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And John might argue, hey, I'm 
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I know more about being dead 
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OK, Fairpoint John. 
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total because of all the 
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right? 
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And all three of them, including
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innocents die. 
And Rob, frankly, would have 

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caused some as well. 
Bran lives amidst skulls and 

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veritable ghosts with visions of
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So yeah, he's pretty up close 
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But John and Rob and and Bran 
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personal with suicides on a 
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addressing corpses and 
undressing corpses and all the 

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various ways to end a life, 
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Like John and Rob and and even 
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But like the the which arteries 
cause the most bleeding and how 

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to give someone mercy, all these
are things she's been taught 

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along the way. 
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House of Black and White. 
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Even Sansa has a lot of 
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point. 
And it isn't, she's not unnerved

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by it, right? 
When the tournament happens, the

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first tournament, and Sir Hugh 
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Sansa isn't like Jane Poole is. 
She has to be taken away. 

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She has to be LED away because 
she's, you know, overcome. 

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But Sansa doesn't. 
She doesn't really bat an eye at

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it. 
She's like, whoa, that was 

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crazy. 
She's not like, she's not like, 

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I hate this. 
No, she it was exciting, I 

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suppose. 
So this is a a big deal for all 

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the Starks really is is their 
relationship with death and how 

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it went very differently than 
than how their parents may have 

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planned it for them. 
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for Aria specifically, because 
we, we need, we need to ground 

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ourselves. 
As Nina puts it in Aria's 

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reality, her approach to death 
and the people she wants to kill

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is unique, to say the least. 
She's very aware of the futile 

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responsibility and privilege 
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She sort of expects some of that
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For example, she expects Harwin 
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Harwin was her father's man. 
But even though Harwin is not 

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her father's man, he's become a 
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member. 
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obligation of dealing out 
justice to people that have 

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broken certain laws. 
Like she kills Darien because he

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broke the vows of the Night's 
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That's not really her business, 
but she saw it as an act of 

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justice. 
I mean, her, her father didn't 

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take her to that execution, but 
she knew what was going on. 

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She knew they were going to an 
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So she associates her family, 
her father, Starks, with being 

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the facilitators of justice. 
That's part of why she has that 

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attitude is she's a Stark and in
her mind, Starks deliver 

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justice. 
Now she's scrappy and unafraid 

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to get dirty and rarely like 
holds her privilege over others.

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It happens occasionally, but 
she's more, you know, down in 

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the muck with other people. 
She doesn't hold herself over 

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other people. 
She kind of gets down in the 

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dirt with them, right. 
It's not, it doesn't usually 

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come up when she's having 
relations with other people, 

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discussing things with people. 
Like she doesn't like it. 

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In fact, there's a couple times 
where Gendry mocks her about it.

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It's it's it's like a reversal, 
like, oh, you're highborn, blah,

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blah, blah. 
And she's like, Nah, don't talk 

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to me like that. 
It's kind of a it's almost 

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ironic. 
She's like, don't talk to me 

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like that because I'm highborn, 
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So because yes, despite all her 
getting in the muck and getting,

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you know, in the dirt, not 
living the way you would expect 

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a person of privilege, she is 
still a child of Ned and Catlin,

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right? 
She still has a lot of their 

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traits. 
She's a Stark and a Tully, more 

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of a Stark than a Tully. 
That's where she was raised in 

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Winterfell. 
So that's that's fair. 

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some of those like standard 

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noble values of hey, we're in 
charge. 

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We deal out, we deal out 
justice. 

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We, we're, we're the authority 
figures here, but she's 

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separated from a lot of that 
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So, so much of this is, is 
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And now out in the world, she's 
learning all these new things 

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separated from her Wolf Pack. 
And that's where her journey 

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truly begins. 
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that was the Septimordane stuff.
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I let you carry a sword? 
You know, things like that, 

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which is like now that's well, 
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sword. 
She's quite good at it. 

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And other blades too. 
And then so many other things. 

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And far from being graceful and 
and keeping her, she's able to 

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keep her needle straight, which 
she probably could sew pretty 

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well now too, but she's sewed 
things like Fleck instead of 

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just sewing her garments. 
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as a refugee, even as a person 
that the House of Black and 

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White is trying to make into no 
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You can't change that about her.
Above everything else, Arya is 

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extremely stubborn and being a 
Stark comes with certain duties 

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that she sees in her 
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Like I said, justice and and and
doing the right thing, things 

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that she learned from her 
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The origin of the prayer, it 
starts soon after Joran and many

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others are killed by Sir Amory 
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It's a horrible experience, of 
course, but Arya and a few 

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others of her companions escape 
from it, only to in turn wind up

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in the clutches of Sir Gregor 
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Which is quite a bit worse. 
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works out for Tywin's Reavers is
something that Arya experienced 

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mostly directly because she 
basically dealt with all these 

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people at one at one point or 
another. 

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So he sends out Tywin, does 
Gregor, Lorch, and Hote into the

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Riverlands to be evil. 
We'll say. 

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Lorch finds Joran, Arya and 
company escape, but she frees 

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Jakin, Roorge, and Biter. 
Arya and company wind up in 

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Gregor's clutches next, so they 
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the next. 
And then Jock and Rogge and 

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Biter, who were freed by Arya 
don't wind up in Gregor's 

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clutches, they go a different 
direction. 

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They join Armory Larch, the man 
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death. 
And then later, when Armory 

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Larch is victim of the weasel 
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turn and join the Bloody Murmurs
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So they switch from one of the 
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different one. 
And later, Vargo Haute kills 

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Armory Larch, and then Clegane 
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And then of course Clegane is 
semi killed by Oberyn and this 

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is when she first witnesses 
torture. 

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She's seen, she's aware of 
execution, she's maybe had seen 

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some bad things before, she had 
been through some some minor 

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things, but this is just far 
beyond anything. 

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She had seen the Ticklers 
questioning the Mountain's 

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indiscriminate brutality and she
realizes how little Syria had 

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truly taught her. 
After all, reality came to her 

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too young quote. 
Arya watched them die and did 

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nothing. 
What good did it do you to be 

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brave? 
One of the women picked for 

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questioning had tried to be 
brave, but she had died 

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screaming like all the rest. 
There were no brave people on 

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that March, only scared and 
hungry ones. 

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Most were women and children. 
The few men were very old or 

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very young. 
The rest had been chained to 

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that gibbet and left for the 
wolves and the crows. 

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Now, she didn't technically see 
her father's death because Joran

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stopped her from seeing it, but 
she was there. 

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She knows what happens. 
She probably saw his head pulled

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up over the crowd. 
If she didn't see the actual 

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moment of execution, she knows 
what happened. 

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And she had also killed someone 
by then herself. 

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She killed that stable boy with 
Needle during the escape. 

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So not her first experience with
death. 

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Like I said, either personally 
or what even Art had already 

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lost her father. 
But this is on another level. 

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This this relentless torture 
hearing, screaming and marching.

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And she's so clinical about it. 
She says she's not like I'm a 

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coward. 
She's just like, bravery is 

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pointless here. 
He's like, I'm not a she's not 

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afraid to be brave. 
She just sees how useless it 

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would be in a moment like this. 
And that's what what she 

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realizes that what Siri taught 
her isn't sufficient. 

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They just took her sword away 
from her and and put her in the 

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situation. 
Simple as that. 

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She could. 
She had almost no chance to stop

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it. 
George writes this as 

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predominantly as hatred. 
She's she's yeah, she's afraid. 

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She has fear, but it's hate that
is really the predominant 

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emotion here. 
It's the thing that's 

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overwhelming her. 
It's the main manifestation 

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here. 
She hates Polyver for taking her

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sword. 
She hates the Tickler for all 

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the torture, Joffrey and Searcy 
for what they did to her father 

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and a few other things, and Sir 
Gregor for, well, there's a lot 

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of things, but related to all. 
All under the category of 

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brutality, basically all just 
being a violent, awful person. 

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And she keeps having these 
thoughts over and over. 

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She has not much else for her to
think about this hatred, and it 

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manifests into this tangible 
group of names. 

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It becomes a list. 
Here's the first time in Aria 6A

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Clash of Kings quote. 
Every night, Aria would say 

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their names. 
Sara Gregor, she'd whisper to 

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her stone pillow. 
Dunson, Polyver, Chiswick, Raft,

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The Sweetling, the Tickler and 
the Hound. 

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Sir Amory, Sir Ilan. 
Sir Marin, King Geoffrey. 

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Queen Cersei. 
Back in Winterfell, Arya had 

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prayed with her mother in the 
Sept and with her father in the 

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godswood. 
But there were no gods on the 

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road to Harrenhal, and her names
were the only prayer that she 

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cared to remember. 
The hatred manifests in a number

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of ways, as we said, and it 
overlaps with that fear perhaps 

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no better in the case of the 
Tickler, a man so inhuman that 

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we never actually hear his real 
name of him. 

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She thinks, quote, the Tickler 
was almost too scary to hate. 

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So that is why I chose him as 
this example because he's 

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perhaps the one that scares her 
the most. 

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And you can see why. 
I mean, a torturer who seems to 

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take pleasure in what he's 
doing. 

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This is a great example of 
George's ability to write 

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horror. 
This is a supernatural setting, 

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but there is nothing 
supernatural about this guy. 

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He's just a bloodthirsty psycho 
who legitimately enjoys what 

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he's doing. 
That's what Ari keys in on, I 

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think, and why he realizes he's 
such a scary guy. 

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She lacks the maturity to put it
into words and maybe the 

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understanding of psychology, but
she she grasps it on a way that 

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she's unable to express. 
Gregor is psycho too, but he's 

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angry and hateful. 
He has lusts to satisfy and 

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inflicting pain seems to be one 
of them. 

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But he never seems to like enjoy
himself. 

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Gregor's never like, that was 
great. 

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You know, I feel good That 
doesn't happen. 

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He's in severe pain and he 
inflicts severe pain. 

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The Tickler just loves being 
cruel. 

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He legitimately enjoys it. 
He's it's a different kind of 

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psycho and. 
I do think it's appropriate to 

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think of it the way Aria does. 
Yeah, I'm calling it a list, but

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it really is a prayer. 
It's like a mantra. 

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It is like a focus exercise. 
She's focusing her energies 

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rather than feeling like she's 
surrendered to giving up. 

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It's like. 
She's manifesting. 

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She's manifesting this is this 
is this is mindfulness, the 

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mindfulness of trauma and 
revenge, of of seeing death is 

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something lesser, of seeing it 
as normal, which in her life it 

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has been normal. 
Arya hates herself and her 

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fellow captives for being sheep,
but not. 

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But she recognizes there's 
nothing they can do. 

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She recognizes that she should 
have been more prepared to deal 

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with this, even though she's so 
young. 

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She should be a person that's 
capable of dealing with a 

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situation like this, of being 
able to defend herself, of being

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able to defend others. 
She hates that helplessness and 

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she hates how they took their 
her courage. 

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She was, she felt good about 
herself. 

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She escaped from Larch and 
fought her way out and saved 

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Jock and Rorge and Biter and she
accomplished a lot. 

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She proved to herself what she 
was capable. 

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That was the first time she like
was, you know, in an adventure. 

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It was terrible. 
It was terrifying. 

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You wouldn't call it an 
adventure, but it was, you know,

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using her skills besides just 
being a captive. 

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But then she became a captive 
and she's like, oh, this is this

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is what it's like. 
And remembering the people that 

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wronged her, remembering the 
people that inflicted this on 

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her is everything besides 
wanting to get home. 

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But it's but those two things 
are overlapped because those 

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people are in her way of getting
home. 

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So it's a very appropriately 
called a prayer in this context 

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because it is something she 
repeats to comfort herself, to 

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focus herself, to be yes, to be 
mindful, to remember what's 

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important, to keep her eye on 
the prize. 

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And it works. 
The Jockin of the Lamp brings 

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three death wishes. 
I first brought this concept up 

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in Valerie Ritas, but here we 
can explore it a little 

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differently and go a little 
deeper with it in some ways. 

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Jockin cleverly uses his debt to
Aria to recruit her and in the 

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process George is able to play 
around with the old Jeannie and 

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the 3 wishes trope. 
He does it in a in a way 

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reminiscent of John appealing to
Ned, as in appealing to a higher

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power. 
Now let me explain. 

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Ned didn't want to keep the 
direwolves, but John appealed to

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the old gods, which is the only 
authority figure Ned would ever 

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listen to. 
He can't say hey, I, John think 

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you should keep the direwolves. 
But he said the old gods sent a 

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sign and Ned's like, oh, I don't
want to go against that. 

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He's got a good point there. 
John does. 

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And as an aside also, he 
probably very much respected 

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John's take there. 
Bran was like love John in that 

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moment. 
He's like, oh thank you John for

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putting it that way. 
Ned probably realized he was 

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doing that too and, and 
respected John and for that. 

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And what a strange moment that 
must have been. 

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Like boy, this kid really is my 
son. 

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Even though he's not my son. 
This kid really is a Stark. 

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So likewise, Jakin doesn't tell 
Arya, I owe you 3 deaths. 

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He says the Red God is owed 
those 3 deaths. 

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It's not a matter of what Jakin 
wants, it's a matter of what the

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Red God wants. 
Don't deny the Red God his due. 

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So he's really putting a hard 
sell on here. 

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He wants to get her involved. 
He wants to give her a taste of 

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that power, of what it's like to
have the power to kill. 

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For whatever reason, he figured 
this out about her. 

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And one theory I have is kind of
a newer theory, at least for me,

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is that, well, much, much later,
Arya says the prayer out loud at

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the House of Black and White. 
She starts to say it in her mind

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because she realizes people can 
hear her. 

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At one point, the kindly man 
confronts her. 

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She's like, what's that list 
you're saying? 

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She's like, we actually have 
that quote later. 

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We'll get to it. 
But I wonder if she was saying 

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out loud at Harrenhal, 
whispering in and jock and hurt 

445
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,200
her and was like, yeah, it's 
interesting. 

446
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:29,320
So he, he kind of got her in by 
promising these deaths, saying 

447
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,280
it's the matter of the gods who 
insists it must be done, right. 

448
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,160
And it's very ironic when you 
think about it like you really 

449
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,640
owe 3 deaths because these 
deaths would have been, would 

450
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,920
have happened, right? 
If, if Aria hadn't saved them, 

451
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,040
those three people would have 
died. 

452
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,400
But you just saved 3 killers. 
Those plenty more deaths are 

453
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,360
going to happen because of Rorge
Biter and Jock and being free. 

454
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,880
If they had died right, then 
that would have saved lives. 

455
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,040
That's so I don't think you need
more deaths to to make up for 

456
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,400
that. 
But anyway, yeah. 

457
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,160
So that's a new term for me. 
Dark, you have humorously 

458
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,720
ironic, but now we have dark, 
humorously ironic. 

459
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,520
And some of those would be by 
burning, right. 

460
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,360
George Jockin and Biter, they 
had to burn some people, right? 

461
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:10,840
Because it's the Red God ode to 
death. 

462
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,000
And he's very particular about 
how he gets his. 

463
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,640
Yeah. 
So here's another scene where 

464
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,080
Ari is thinking about it as, as 
I said, a lot of this happens in

465
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,440
Harrenhal. 
And at first she's not so sure 

466
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,320
it violates some of what she's 
learned about death and killing 

467
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,840
and and how it should be done. 
It basically what she learned 

468
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,680
from her family. 
Here's the quote. 

469
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,640
As she worked, Arya thought 
about the people she wanted 

470
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,080
dead. 
She pretended she could see 

471
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,800
their faces on the steps and 
scrubbed harder to wipe them 

472
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,320
away. 
The Starks were at war with the 

473
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,720
Lannisters, and she was a Stark,
so she should kill as many 

474
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,160
Lannisters as she could. 
That was what you did in wars. 

475
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,920
But she didn't think she should 
trust Jacob. 

476
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,040
I should kill them myself. 
Whenever her father had 

477
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,600
condemned a man to death, he did
the deed himself with ice, his 

478
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,600
great sword. 
If you would take a man's life, 

479
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,360
you owe it to him to look him in
the face and hear his last 

480
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:15,120
words. 
She'd heard him tell Rob and 

481
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,880
John once. 
Notice that Ned didn't tell her 

482
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,000
that she overheard it, but it 
still had the same effect that 

483
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,400
it probably had on those two for
the most part. 

484
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,640
So yeah, the Northern ideal is 
this is being violated by that. 

485
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,360
He's like, well, my father said 
you should swing the sword 

486
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,920
yourself. 
But she realizes how powerless 

487
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,880
she is to do that, even though 
she wants to. 

488
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,880
This along with the just 
constant evil and brutality 

489
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,760
around her, from the small scale
abuse of Weese to the torture of

490
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,560
more captives and people and 
just watching Gregor and the 

491
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,280
Tickler and all this, the, the 
day-to-day of that is just 

492
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,800
overwhelming. 
So eventually she accepts 

493
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,280
Jockin's offer, but also 
dedicates herself to the idea of

494
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,080
learning how to do it herself. 
She, she's like, yeah, I'm going

495
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,360
to let Jockin do this, but I 
want to learn how to do it 

496
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:06,120
myself too. 
Which brings us back to that's 

497
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:10,000
probably exactly what he wanted.
He wanted to bring her in, make 

498
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,080
her responsible for some deaths,
make her like it, or at least 

499
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,520
see how she takes to it, and 
then do further recruitment 

500
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,520
things, which I've got a few, 
one or two more of them here, 

501
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,200
coming in a minute. 
Now the trope of the genie and 

502
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,440
the 3 wishes is inverted further
here. 

503
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,160
Or perhaps not inverted, but 
played in a way that's very 

504
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,960
familiar. 
Arya does the thing that a lot 

505
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,280
of people do with that third 
wish. 

506
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,160
They try to wish for more 
wishes, which is super familiar.

507
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,080
I love that. 
This is such a great inversion. 

508
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,920
But there is a difference here. 
The trope is slightly inverted 

509
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,760
or or changed a bit by Arya, 
say, wishing for the third name 

510
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960
to be him. 
She says the third death should 

511
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,840
be you. 
Very clever. 

512
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,280
Even the genie can't out think 
that one, which is probably just

513
00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,600
justifying in Jockin's minds, 
like, Oh yeah, I'm recruiting 

514
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,760
the right girl here. 
This, she gets it. 

515
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,960
This, this girl knows what's up.
This is this was a good move by 

516
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,280
her. 
We need her. 

517
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,280
We want her on our team. 
So what is it? 

518
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Of course, this ends with weasel
soup, right? 

519
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,360
That's, that's where it goes 
from there. 

520
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:18,280
She gets him to unsay the She 
unsays the name in agreement to 

521
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,280
freeing these northerners from 
prison. 

522
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:28,440
And the net result of that is 8 
dead guardsmen of Amory Lorch. 

523
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,520
Remember Jock in his shirt, make
sure to rub some of the blood 

524
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,560
from one of his kills on Arya's 
jerkins so that she has the 

525
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,920
blood of that death on her. 
So the blood is on her hands as 

526
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,520
well. 
Again, all plays into the 

527
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,680
recruitment, the the 
responsibility angle of this. 

528
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,040
You know, you can't just give 
the order and not have 

529
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,360
responsibility for for the 
death, which is something Arya 

530
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,840
hasn't really fully sussed out 
yet. 

531
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,760
That's a big theme that we're 
going to be tackling throughout 

532
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,560
this episode is Arya is too 
young sometimes to understand 

533
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,000
responsibility. 
She blames Ill and Payne for 

534
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,880
killing her father. 
Fair, he did that. 

535
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,240
But the person who gave the 
order is the bigger deal. 

536
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,200
And fairly, she blames Joffrey 
for that. 

537
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,800
Joffrey gave the order right in 
front of everybody. 

538
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,120
But who encouraged Joffrey to do
that? 

539
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,760
Probably Littlefinger. 
And she doesn't have 

540
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,640
Littlefinger on her list. 
So that's something that's 

541
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,160
coming that we'll talk about a 
bit is that this is the kind of 

542
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,520
thing that Ari hasn't learned to
think through. 

543
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,480
Like, well, who's behind it? 
Who's behind The Who sent the 

544
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,560
man to do the murder? 
That's the the power structure, 

545
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,000
the authority levels and, and 
all the insurance and outs of 

546
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,200
that. 
And she hasn't fully figured 

547
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,200
that out. 
And it's a big deal for her 

548
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,720
because of who she works for, 
meaning the House of black and 

549
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,160
white. 
Like who's behind all that? 

550
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,720
Is there a person in charge? 
Are they really just all sort of

551
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,000
equally in charge there? 
There's a lot of mystery in 

552
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,760
terms of like, who's running 
that place and do they have a 

553
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,720
connection to the Iron Bank? 
And these theories get a little 

554
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,760
off of what we're dealing with 
today. 

555
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,400
But I wanted to throw them out 
there because it it relates to 

556
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,200
Arya's naivete in that regard. 
And it's, this is one of the 

557
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,840
things that the adults can can 
get past her because she's too 

558
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,320
young to even consider some of 
these things. 

559
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,360
But how long will that be true? 
She's eventually going to start 

560
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,320
figuring some of these things 
out. 

561
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,080
Let's talk about the full list. 
Let's get into the actual list, 

562
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,600
the names on it, and start to 
get into that particular nitty 

563
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,800
gritty. 
Ari has only 5 chapters in the 

564
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,640
Game of Thrones. 
That's 7% of the book. 

565
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,120
Of course, the list doesn't come
there. 

566
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,520
A lot of the things that drive 
her to make the list happen in 

567
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,000
book one. 
But in The Clash of Kings, she 

568
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,360
has 10 chapters, twice as many, 
and that's the second most 

569
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,880
chapter, second most chapters of
anybody. 

570
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,480
It's also the second most 
percentage of the book. 

571
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,600
She's 14% of the book is her 
POV. 

572
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,000
Tyrion is first on both counts 
in that one. 

573
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,120
So Ari is number 2 in both cases
there. 

574
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,200
So she goes from one of the 
lesser PO VS to one of the most 

575
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,880
major ones and it's and chapter 
26 is when the prayer first 

576
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,240
appears. 20 chapter 26 of a 
Clash of Kings. 

577
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,560
That's six of her. 
That's her 6th chapter. 

578
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,000
She has 6 chapters in the 1st 26
and then she has another one in 

579
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,520
chapter 30. 
So that's wild. 

580
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,640
Arya is way the main character 
of the first part of the Clash 

581
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,120
of Kings. 
Seven of the 1st 30 chapters are

582
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,880
hers. 
Almost 1/4, right? 

583
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,560
Then only, but then she only has
three more chapters for the rest

584
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,080
of the book, which is 40 
chapters. 

585
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,880
So 7 out of the 1st 30, but only
three out of the next 40. 

586
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,080
So really early A Clash of Kings
is, is very Arya. 

587
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,400
So again, it appears in her 6th 
chapter. 

588
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,720
The list does. 
Then it's in her 7th. 

589
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,000
Then it's in her 8th. 
It's not in her 9th, but it is 

590
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,360
in her 10th and it evolves along
the way. 

591
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,160
In A Clash of Kings, she spends 
most of her time at Harrenhal, 

592
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,760
right? 
And at the end, it's when she 

593
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,360
flees while Roose Bolton is 
still in control in A Storm of 

594
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Swords. 
She spends her time with her 

595
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,120
friends for a stretch before 
running into the Brother Without

596
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,240
Banners. 
Right then she's eventually 

597
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,480
kidnapped by Sandor and spends a
lot of time with him. 

598
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,880
She says the prayer twice in 
chapter 1 of A Storm of Swords, 

599
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:59,800
then again in chapter 3578, 
twice in Chapter 9 with with 

600
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,480
some names freshly crossed off, 
and then that's about it. 

601
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,720
So she doesn't say it for a 
while after the Red Wedding. 

602
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,600
She's more in grief and fear and
not sure what to do. 

603
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,640
So yeah, she's not thinking 
about killing the people who 

604
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,880
weren't involved with it because
it, she knows it was the phrase.

605
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,880
She was there. 
I mean, she went to the, she was

606
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,720
at the Red Wedding briefly. 
So she knows basically who's 

607
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,040
responsible, but she doesn't 
know their names. 

608
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,320
So a little more on that later. 
She's the phraser on her list, 

609
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,240
sort of. 
She just doesn't know what their

610
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,880
names are. 
In A Feast for Crows, it's 

611
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,920
almost immediately happens. 
The prayer comes up and then in 

612
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,200
her second chapter it comes up 
three times. 

613
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,640
In A Feast for Crows now she's 
only got 3 chapters in that 

614
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,000
book. 
In A Dance with Dragon, she's 

615
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,160
only got 2 chapters, but in both
chapters it happens. 

616
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,360
In fact, in the 2nd chapter it 
happens twice. 

617
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,680
It doesn't happen in the Mercy 
chapter, but she killed someone 

618
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,880
on her list in the Mercy 
chapter. 

619
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,960
So it's very, it's a much more 
intense version of the list. 

620
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,520
It's an actual crossing of a 
name off. 

621
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,000
She doesn't actually have to say
the list. 

622
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,520
She she acts on it. 
So that's like almost every 

623
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600
chapter with multiple times it 
being twice. 

624
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,480
So that's a lot. 
So here we go with everyone 

625
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,160
who's been on it or is on it or 
was on it because some people 

626
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,440
have been crossed off. 
And then again, including people

627
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,560
like House Frey, who or name she
doesn't know or people that she 

628
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,080
could learn were responsible. 
Because you'll notice in that, 

629
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,520
for example, she doesn't mention
House Bolton. 

630
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,840
She knows the phrase were 
involved. 

631
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,520
She doesn't learn that about 
House Bolton, but it's not 

632
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,960
exactly uncommon knowledge. 
So she could learn about that. 

633
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,000
So we'll talk about them too, 
but we'll do it in order before 

634
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,440
the actual list. 
In her second chapter of A Game 

635
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,520
of Thrones, the list, there's a 
proto version of it. 

636
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,560
It starts to form. 
This comes when she's sad that 

637
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,160
Micah was killed by Sandor and 
she poor girl, blames herself. 

638
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,120
He held her gently as she turned
to him and sobbed against his 

639
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,080
chest. 
Grieve for your friend, but 

640
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,920
never blame yourself. 
You did not kill the butcher's 

641
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,200
boy. 
That murder lies at the hound's 

642
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,680
door. 
Him and the cruel woman he 

643
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,679
serves. 
I hate them, Arya confided, red 

644
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:12,880
faced sniffling. 
The Hound and the Queen and the 

645
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,120
King and Prince Geoffrey. 
I hate all of them. 

646
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,400
And they all end up on her list,
right? 

647
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,600
All three of those and several 
more, right? 

648
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:27,480
And as I said earlier, hatred is
the thing that really drives the

649
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,800
creation of the list in the 
first point in the 1st place. 

650
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,719
And here we go. 
She's hates them now. 

651
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,280
The moment softens a bit. 
This is part of how it's brought

652
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,960
in slowly. 
Ned sort of makes it a little 

653
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,639
humorous here. 
He's able to soften the 

654
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:44,840
situation by saying because 
Ari's like Sansa lied about what

655
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,840
happened there and Ned's like we
all lie and. 

656
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,880
And points out with a warm smile
that Ari lied about Nymeria 

657
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,440
running off and that's his way 
of saying that. 

658
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,320
Look, just a lie isn't 
necessarily bad. 

659
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,040
It's why you lie, right? 
You can lie for a good reason 

660
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:00,120
and that. 
Would know. 

661
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,720
Ned would know. 
Ned would know. 

662
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,800
He would know better than most. 
And that was a very well put 

663
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,080
sentence by him there where he's
like, I know you. 

664
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,920
You chase away and it and you 
did it for a good reason. 

665
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,560
You did it to save her life. 
And so she's it's a clever way 

666
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,000
to introduce that concept to 
her, to her. 

667
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,360
And she's like, yeah, that's a 
good point. 

668
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,120
OK, Yeah, Ned, not only does Ned
keep conceal those John's 

669
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,280
parentage for all his life, even
from Catlin, but he has to lie 

670
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,240
to the crowd to save Sansa in 
front of everybody when he's 

671
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,440
being executed by Joffrey or 
before he's being executed, 

672
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,360
before he knows he's going to be
executed, He's like, yes, 

673
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,640
Joffrey is the king. 
He didn't believe that. 

674
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,960
He told Varres he didn't believe
that. 

675
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,160
But then Varres is like, yeah, 
but Sansa, he's like, OK, I'll 

676
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,080
lie, right? 
Some things are more important 

677
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,520
than honesty. 
People's lives, right? 

678
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,440
We would like the two to be more
intrinsically linked, but that's

679
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,680
in the real world. 
And in fantasy worlds like this 

680
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,480
one that aim to be realistic, 
not so much. 

681
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,400
So yeah, the list is extremely 
personal to her. 

682
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,880
It's not just about justice. 
It it is about justice in so 

683
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,560
many cases, but it's more about 
personal justice for the most 

684
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,200
part. 
She doesn't add people to the 

685
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,280
list for crimes committed 
against others. 

686
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,160
The Tickler is maybe an 
exception. 

687
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,240
He's just so overwhelming, 
though. 

688
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,440
The list is mostly for crimes 
against her, things that people 

689
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,920
did to upset her or to her 
family, which is kind of the 

690
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,360
same thing the way she perceives
it. 

691
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,320
And as we've been saying all 
along, it only extends to people

692
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,600
that she's capable of perceiving
as guilty, which is difficult at

693
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,840
her age. 
So more we'll continue to talk 

694
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,680
about that. 
So here's who's dead, here's 

695
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,600
who's already been crossed off, 
that was on the list and isn't 

696
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,320
anymore. 
And Harrenhal, of course. 

697
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,120
Like I said, this is when the 
plot line kicks into high gear 

698
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:46,160
because that's when Jockin makes
the offer and eventually she 

699
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,640
accepts it. 
The first one to go is Chiswick.

700
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,560
This is a guy that bragged about
a gang rape and and Arya 

701
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,240
overheard it. 
And of course, being one of the 

702
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:01,120
mountains men, he's clearly 
participated in other awful 

703
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,720
things that we don't need to 
think about. 

704
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:08,040
This one is one of the worst 
passages in all the series. 

705
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,080
It's just so gross and and 
terrifying. 

706
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,040
But it's realistic that people 
do these things and and brag 

707
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,680
about it and and laugh about it.
And Aria recognizes this is 

708
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,040
rightfully disgusted by it and 
is a good example. 

709
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,880
This this Chizik didn't do 
anything to her. 

710
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,680
So right off the bat is it's a 
exception to what I was saying 

711
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,760
before, which mostly things done
to other to her or her family. 

712
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,120
This is not the case. 
She doesn't even know this 

713
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,040
person, Lena, this girl that had
this awful thing happened to her

714
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,920
by the mountains men. 
So it's just so offensive. 

715
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,600
It's a young girl near Aria's 
age, near Santa's age, so she 

716
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,600
can't let it fly. 
It's it's just something that 

717
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,680
has to be answered, answered in 
kind. 

718
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,280
So she's not completely selfish 
with her list of I wouldn't say 

719
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,280
she's selfish at all. 
She's I mean, she's 11. 

720
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,040
So it's a mix. 
Mostly it's about what's done to

721
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,520
her and her family, but her 
first example was not. 

722
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,160
Self absorbed versus selfish 
Like list isn't completely self 

723
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,440
absorbed. 
Yeah, that. 

724
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,920
That's a good. 
Yes, that's a good way to put 

725
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,120
it. 
Yeah. 

726
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Self absorbed as, as, as most 
children would be. 

727
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,800
It's hard to have a worldview, 
a, a, a grander view to think of

728
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,000
others when you're that age, 
even when you've been sort of 

729
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,040
taught to, because you're a 
noble and you're supposed to 

730
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,600
have authority over other 
people. 

731
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,160
So there's a little more of that
in a noble household of thinking

732
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,920
about others, but not thinking 
about others in terms of what 

733
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,960
they're going through, thinking 
about others in terms of telling

734
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,480
them what to do and how they fit
into your Kingdom. 

735
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,400
You know, how they what roles 
they play, not necessarily 

736
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,760
caring about them as 
individuals. 

737
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,560
So he was killed. 
Chiswick was by being pushed off

738
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,480
a wall by Jockin the first death
wish. 

739
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,400
And it's pretty important. 
And, you know, it gets her 

740
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,600
started. 
She's like, wow, that the 

741
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,720
feeling of getting rid of this 
awful man is empowering to her. 

742
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,600
And this is when she starts to 
feel like the ghost of 

743
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,320
Harrenhal. 
She's like, yeah, I'm, I'm 

744
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,160
somebody now. 
I'm no longer a mouse. 

745
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,800
I'm a killer, or at least I have
the power of death. 

746
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,360
Maybe she's not a killer. 
Maybe she doesn't quite think of

747
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,280
herself that. 
But she's on that the spectrum, 

748
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:10,720
the killer spectrum. 
She's she's not a zero anymore 

749
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:12,040
on that. 
Well, I mean, she already wasn't

750
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,600
because she killed the stable 
boy, but she felt powerless. 

751
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,640
And now and she just starts to 
bring her back to feeling a 

752
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,640
sense of agency that she hadn't 
had since King's Landing. 

753
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,440
And it goes from there. 
The next one is Weese. 

754
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,160
She starts to, you know, feel 
herself a bit. 

755
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,560
She's like, yeah, I've got 
options now. 

756
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,760
I'm not completely helpless. 
I can do things like this. 

757
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,000
And this is when she does become
a little more selfish with it or

758
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,280
a little more self absorbed with
it. 

759
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,640
To her credit, she realizes 
this. 

760
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,280
She Weese, is very abusive to 
her, lies to her, beats her. 

761
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,800
And he's abusive to the rest of 
the the workers as well. 

762
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,120
So at first she's thinking of 
killing some more of the 

763
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,240
mountains man. 
She's like Dunson REF Polyver. 

764
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:57,800
She's got these, you know which 
one of them? 

765
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,760
The tickler maybe. 
But then they go off on a 

766
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,520
mission. 
They leave to go fight in one of

767
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Tywin's battles. 
It's actually turns out to be 

768
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,560
the Battle of the Stone mill. 
Point is, they're not there. 

769
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,360
She can't send Jock in after 
them because they they're not in

770
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,800
in even in his reach. 
And the combination of them not 

771
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:19,840
being there and the day-to-day 
constant abuse by Wiese focuses 

772
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,480
her energy on him. 
So she names him to Jockin as 

773
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,240
her second wish, and then tries 
to change her mind. 

774
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,680
She's like, actually, what am I 
doing? 

775
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,080
I He's not important. 
Yes, he's a big problem for me. 

776
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,760
But this guy is nobody in the 
scheme of things. 

777
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,080
He's not a commander, he's not a
leader. 

778
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,440
He's not Tywin. 
He's not. 

779
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,000
But it's too late. 
Weiss is killed by his own dog. 

780
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,480
Jockin apparently used basilisk 
blood, because we know basilisk 

781
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,280
blood can do that. 
I have no idea where he got 

782
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,520
basilisk blood. 
Maybe he stole it from the 

783
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,000
maestro's chambers, but that's a
mystery for another time. 

784
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,280
Anyway, it has a has an 
interesting effect on her. 

785
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:04,200
Now she's down to one death and 
that is well she can see the end

786
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,720
of her new powers creeping up. 
She doesn't want to lose that. 

787
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,320
She's like, well, if I ever use 
this last wish, then I won't 

788
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,160
have any more wishes and I won't
I'll go back to being a ghost. 

789
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,440
I mean a mouse instead of a 
ghost. 

790
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,720
And she's she can see the end of
her power. 

791
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:21,160
It's like she was elected and 
the end of her term is coming 

792
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,800
and she doesn't want it to end. 
So she's trying to figure out a 

793
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,520
way to extend it like a lot of 
people do when they're losing 

794
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,960
power. 
It's very human, what's 

795
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,760
happening here. 
It's just a very unusual and 

796
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,760
dark power that she has the 
ability to whisper a name and 

797
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,600
have that person die. 
So this is when we get back to 

798
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,600
Weasel Soup or not back to I've 
already explained what happened 

799
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:46,040
with that. 
You already know, and during the

800
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,200
commotion of all this, Jockin 
wipes this the blade on her 

801
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,600
shirts that she's got the blood 
and she's, you know, 

802
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,440
symbolically got her the blood 
on her hands. 

803
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,000
And then he changes his face in 
front of her and leaves. 

804
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,160
Now he didn't have to change his
face in front of her. 

805
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,200
He could have done that in 
private. 

806
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,520
He did that to to show her he 
could do it. 

807
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,840
So she'd be like, oh, I want to 
learn how to do that. 

808
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,480
She's like, Oh, you're not only 
are you good at killing, you're 

809
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,720
good at that. 
I want to do that. 

810
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,240
So this is more just a wowing 
the kid to get her to want to 

811
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:21,440
learn more and to follow his 
footsteps. 

812
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,520
And here's the iron coin, you 
know, meet me in Bravos or meet 

813
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,920
my friends in Bravos. 
So the full sales pitch is 

814
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,520
completed by that point. 
He's like, like I've done 

815
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,000
everything I can do now you're 
as recruited as I can get as I 

816
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,880
can recruit you. 
I've got other kills to go do. 

817
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,400
So he leaves during the 
confusion and all this helps 

818
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,120
this this also empowers her in a
way she didn't see coming 

819
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,000
because even though she loses 
Jock and she loses her ability 

820
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,800
to be the Ghost in Winterfell to
kill with a whisper, she gets 

821
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,880
promoted by Roose Bolton. 
And that actually helps her 

822
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,520
escape because she has access to
parts of the castle that she 

823
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,040
wouldn't have had because she's 
Roose Bolton's direct servant. 

824
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,120
She has a flayed man badge on 
her, which gives her a higher 

825
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,120
level of authority amongst the 
servants. 

826
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,040
And that leads to the conditions
that allow her to escape. 

827
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,800
But before she escapes, right, 
what happens? 

828
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,920
The ceramorie Lurch is killed 
the first person on her original

829
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,800
list. 
Cuz Wheeze and Chizik were not 

830
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,320
on the original list. 
They were added later. 

831
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,920
I think Chizik was added later 
actually. 

832
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,800
Could be wrong about that. 
But anyway, Lorch was certainly 

833
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:32,960
an original member and for her 
his crime was killing Joran and 

834
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,680
some of the other boys she was 
with. 

835
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:40,520
But really it's about Joran now.
Of all the people that lived in 

836
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,720
Westeros that had people that 
wanted to kill them, Emery Larch

837
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:47,920
would be among the most famous 
or most well known. 

838
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,680
This is a guy that had a lot of 
enemies. 

839
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,640
This dude is horrible. 
Nobody likes this guy. 

840
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,640
His family probably didn't like 
him. 

841
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,000
His own men probably didn't like
him. 

842
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,920
He's just terrible. 
Just a jerk. 

843
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,760
Not very smart, cruel. 
Yeah, just all the no redeeming 

844
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,200
qualities whatsoever. 
Basically, if other people had 

845
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,520
lists of people they wanted to 
kill, he'd have been on more 

846
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,840
lists than most people. 
He might have topped. 

847
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,680
He might have been the most 
appearing, the name that 

848
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,040
appeared on the most lists of 
people that need to die because,

849
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,280
yeah, the Martels, for example, 
they wanted him dead. 

850
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,280
He he's responsible for Princess
Rainey's death. 

851
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,720
So that's, that's their, you 
know, their granddaughter or 

852
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:30,000
their their niece, depending on 
which Martel you're talking to, 

853
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,320
so or cousin, whatever. 
And they wanted him dead as bad 

854
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,880
as Gregor and Tywin. 
But you know, they didn't get 

855
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,760
their chance. 
Neither did Arya, but Arya at 

856
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,640
least got to see it. 
So it's no surprise that Arya 

857
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,840
didn't get to kill this guy 
'cause he was. 

858
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:50,440
He was top 10 most wanted. 
Now it was after the weasel soup

859
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,760
incident. 
He lost the castle. 

860
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,720
He had been Castellan, appointed
by Tywin, Vargo turned on Tywin,

861
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,920
invited Ruse into the castle and
boom, that was that. 

862
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,960
Amory Lorch's death is 
presented. 

863
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,120
Nina writes as almost like a 
divine reward for Arya, like 

864
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,560
everything fell into place the 
right way and she got to witness

865
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,200
his death. 
It just seems so perfectly for 

866
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,480
her. 
She gave up her last wish to 

867
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,880
make the weasel soup thing 
happen, but Armory Lorch is very

868
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,720
possibly the guy she would have 
targeted otherwise. 

869
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:23,160
So she she sort of was rewarded 
for spending her wish on 

870
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,840
something that wasn't directly 
about her. 

871
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,360
It's like the gods gave her that
benefit anyway. 

872
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,080
It's like, it's like, if I'm a 
good person, I'll be rewarded in

873
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,680
the afterlife. 
Well, this wasn't the afterlife,

874
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,040
but it's a similar kind of 
concept where she's like, I'm 

875
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,760
going to do the good thing here,
the thing that I perceive as 

876
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,360
good, and the gods will reward 
me for it. 

877
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,080
And it seems to pay off. 
Like it's from her perspective. 

878
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,760
That's kind of what happened. 
She saved some imprisoned 

879
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,280
Northmen, men that were in Rob's
army, and that's what she 

880
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,040
thought she was doing. 
And yeah. 

881
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,080
And the bear, it's a bear that 
kills Armory Lord just starving 

882
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,000
a bear in the bear pit. 
The one the same bear that later

883
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,720
Brienne and Jamie contend with. 
In fact, do you all remember 

884
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:05,480
when Jamie is like, looking for 
any sort of weapon whatsoever in

885
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,320
the bear pit and he picks up a 
jawbone and it has maggots on 

886
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,360
it? 
Well, that's probably Armory 

887
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,560
Lorch's jawbone because it has 
maggots on it. 

888
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,840
That means it's fresh. 
Like the other bones in there 

889
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,920
wouldn't have maggots because 
the meat would have been eaten 

890
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,160
off. 
You know, it would have rotted 

891
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,760
or eaten a while ago. 
But this was fresh, ish. 

892
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,480
So yeah, it was probably Lorch's
jawbone there. 

893
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,960
And Aria, when she sees it 
happen, she kind of it's almost 

894
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,240
like trance, like she feels like
it's, it is like a divine 

895
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:39,080
moment, like this is what's 
supposed to happen. 

896
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,280
And she thinks the bear is all 
in black, like urine. 

897
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,680
It's like urine getting his 
revenge. 

898
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,640
It's a black bear. 
Yeah. 

899
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,520
It reminds me a little bit of 
Danny seeing her brother die. 

900
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,200
She has more complex feelings 
for Viserys and Aria has for 

901
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,360
Armory, larch and urine. 
But it's an abuser getting a 

902
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,760
severe taste of their own 
medicine, right. 

903
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,080
Danny was abused by Viserys. 
She also loved him, which is why

904
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,200
it's more a lot more 
complicated. 

905
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,080
Ari never had any love for 
Armory Lorch, but she is in it's

906
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,480
kind of a like a reverie. 
She sees her brother die and 

907
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,040
it's like a release. 
It's like, yeah, he kind of 

908
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,320
deserved this, you know? 
And she feels and in that moment

909
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,040
where she's like, she thinks a 
dragon, he's no true dragon. 

910
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,920
A dragon wouldn't burn, right. 
It's it's a little bit similar 

911
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,600
vibe to the bear is all in 
Black. 

912
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,320
Yeah, that's cool. 
And the bear is a northern 

913
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,440
symbol, kind of the fire is kind
of a symbol of House Targaryens.

914
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,960
You got a little a little 
similar vibes there. 

915
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,720
And Tywin was going to blame 
Clegane's crimes on Armory Larch

916
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:43,360
when she when he found out he 
was just like, well, I might as 

917
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,080
well just pin everything on 
Larch so I can keep Clegane for 

918
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,240
myself and not have to turn him 
over to the Martells. 

919
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,720
Of course, that didn't work out 
because Gregor admitted his 

920
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,000
guilt during the trial by 
comments like, yeah, I raped 

921
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,320
her. 
Yeah, I killed your, your 

922
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,920
screaming whelp. 
Like, oh, that. 

923
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,440
You weren't supposed to do that,
Gregor. 

924
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,360
That's what Oberyn wanted, 
though. 

925
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,040
He didn't want the, you know, 
skull getting smashed part. 

926
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,120
But it's all Harkins. 
Back to my point about Tywin's 

927
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,040
Reavers all killing each other. 
They're just resources. 

928
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,640
They're just, you know, they're 
just tools to Tywin. 

929
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,200
He doesn't care. 
They're not people, right? 

930
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,440
And also, it's very, it's 
another example of how Tywin is 

931
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,880
very good at keeping his evil 
under wraps. 

932
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,240
We the reader are very 
intimately exposed to it. 

933
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,280
But most people don't know how 
bad a guy Tywin is. 

934
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,880
Tywin's not on Arya's list, 
right? 

935
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,240
Like, that's kind of when you 
think about that way, it's like,

936
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,560
yeah, he kind of belonged, 
right? 

937
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,640
But again, this is the she 
doesn't, she's not able to parse

938
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,640
through these structures of 
authority and say, yeah, she 

939
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,680
blames Gregor. 
She blame, she blames Armory 

940
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,920
Lorch. 
Tywin sent both of them out. 

941
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,840
She should absolutely blame him.
He's the one who put them in the

942
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,360
position to do all the horror 
that they did. 

943
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,960
He's the one who gave them 
permission to do that. 

944
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,840
But again, she doesn't quite see
it that way. 

945
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,880
She thinks of him specifically 
again, Armory Lorch at the House

946
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,120
of black and white. 
It it reminds her when she sees 

947
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:10,760
him face death very cowardly. 
He's begging and pleading and 

948
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:15,200
doesn't go well, right. 
He's it's not a good death, you 

949
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,560
could say, because he's he's so 
afraid and doesn't fight back. 

950
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,440
Just kind of you know, is torn 
apart by a bear while he's 

951
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,800
crying. 
So Arya sees both sides of it. 

952
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:31,160
She sees that and is very struck
by people who come to the House 

953
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,040
of Black and White for the gift 
of death, right? 

954
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,560
For the gift of mercy. 
They don't call it death. 

955
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,320
They called mercy, which is part
of why she has that name. 

956
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,960
Mercy later. 
Yep. 

957
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,640
And the the, the people asking 
for mercy certainly comes up as 

958
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,480
well throughout her arc and 
places that you may not have 

959
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,680
noticed. 
That perhaps is meant as a 

960
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,920
little wink by George, but they 
go there willingly to end their 

961
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,400
lives, to have mercy and to to 
just end their lives in peace 

962
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,560
like a suicide machine. 
Like to go. 

963
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,440
They go to visit Doctor 
Kevorkian and they want to have 

964
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,880
they they welcome death at that 
point. 

965
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,080
Not to be fair. 
They get a peaceful death. 

966
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,560
They get a painless peaceful 
death. 

967
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,880
Well, they're not torn apart by 
a starved bear. 

968
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,640
So there's other circumstances 
that are different here. 

969
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,080
But still, it's for, for a young
girl in Aria's place, it really 

970
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,160
speaks to how she's learning 
about death, how she's seeing 

971
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,040
all the ways people die, how the
way, the ways they face it. 

972
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:34,480
And it's a lot of, it's a lot 
for an 11 year old to, to learn,

973
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,520
to have at her disposal, to have
in the front of her mind. 

974
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,120
But it's part of what makes 
Arias so darn fascinating. 

975
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,120
Now it's also this, this bit 
about painless death, brave 

976
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:50,080
death versus facing death, you 
know, with, with cowardice or 

977
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:55,520
with, with calmness. 
Amory Larch himself has his own 

978
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,440
little philosophy that came up 
when he was confronting Joran 

979
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,200
and was like, look, you know, or
if you don't send open the gates

980
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,920
and let us inspect you and see 
who you have, we're going to 

981
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,120
attack you. 
And he's like, well, there's 

982
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,320
just young boys here, you know, 
and, and Armory says young boys 

983
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,800
and old men die the same. 
He was very casually, cruelly in

984
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,960
that sense. 
Well, there is some similarities

985
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,080
there, of course, like a stab to
the heart will kill 1 the same 

986
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,800
as the other. 
But how they act facing death, 

987
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,000
what it means to them, the life 
they experienced before that, 

988
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,120
not even close, not even close. 
Right. 

989
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,720
So it's it's death is a complex 
subject and for some people it's

990
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:41,440
simple, but for Aria it's not. 
Maybe it started off simple, but

991
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,720
the longer she goes, the less so
it is, which might affect how 

992
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:47,360
the list plays out in the long 
run. 

993
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,760
Here at History of Westeros, 
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994
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We often choose topics that 

995
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,080
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Like we aren't sitting here 

996
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,160
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997
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,080
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998
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:10,320
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999
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1000
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1001
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1003
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1004
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1005
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1009
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1010
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1013
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,960
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1015
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1018
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1019
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,960
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1020
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,560
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We would have to just do more 

1021
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,440
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1022
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,960
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Because of y'all, we're able to 

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00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,880
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1029
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1030
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1040
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,320
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1043
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Kimber Lafay says I'm confused 
Jack and claims the red God is 

1044
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,360
owed but he works for the many 
faced God. 

1045
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,720
Are they the same or is he 
playing a role? 

1046
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,360
I think you're picking up on 
what I was saying, that he's 

1047
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,280
playing a role. 
He's trying to get Aria in with 

1048
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,400
him, trying to get him to do his
things, get him to or get her 

1049
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:46,480
to, to kill and to associate 
death with the parlance of gods 

1050
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,920
and to say, to put it beyond 
humanity, to say the gods decide

1051
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,120
who lives and who dies. 
The prayer of the many Faced 

1052
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,520
God, whether it's the Red God or
the many Faced God, it's just a 

1053
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,520
way to say this authority comes 
from above. 

1054
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,080
We are servants. 
That's the way he's trying to 

1055
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,400
sell it to her, in part because 
I think he knows his audience. 

1056
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,680
He's been around Aria. 
He's very good at this. 

1057
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,480
He's a very highly trained and 
he's able to kind of undo her 

1058
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,640
psychology and say the right 
things to to pull on her 

1059
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,520
heartstrings and to encourage 
her to get her interested. 

1060
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,920
So I think you're right to to 
key in on that because, yeah, I 

1061
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,120
think he's spinning a yarn. 
He's exaggerating, maybe 

1062
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,280
outright lying in some places to
get her to get on his path to 

1063
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,440
become a faceless man. 
So yeah, playing a role very 

1064
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,760
much. 
That's a good term to use too, 

1065
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,160
because mummery and and playing 
roles and and plays is a big 

1066
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,480
part of her arc as well. 
As I said earlier, when he 

1067
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,280
leaves, he's he he dazzles her 
with the face changing skills 

1068
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,520
and gives her the coin. 
Now he had made her feel more 

1069
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,760
powerful. 
And here is a moment where she's

1070
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,960
kind of reflecting on that and 
thinking about what it means now

1071
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,280
that she's that he's gone. 
Quote. 

1072
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,680
She took out the coin that Jake 
and Hagar had given her and 

1073
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,440
curled her fingers around it as 
she lay beneath her cloak. 

1074
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,240
It made her feel strong to hold 
it, remembering how she'd been 

1075
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:14,600
the ghost in Harrenhal. 
She could kill with a whisper 

1076
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,120
then. 
So the coin, not only is it the 

1077
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:23,400
token that gets her access, but 
it's a Talisman that causes her 

1078
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,640
to remember how powerful she 
felt with Jockin's abilities, 

1079
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:34,640
with his wishes at her command. 
So even as he's gone, he left 

1080
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,120
her with this thing that will 
continue to cause her to think 

1081
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,360
about it, that keeps her, her 
mind enraptured and thinking of 

1082
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,680
what could be if she were to 
find a man of Braavos and speak 

1083
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,200
the words Valor Margulis. 
She really likes that phrase, 

1084
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,560
too. 
She starts saying Valor Margulis

1085
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,920
pretty regularly. 
She starts associating it with 

1086
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,320
her list. 
Yeah. 

1087
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,440
And dark humorously, she even 
uses the coin to help her kill 

1088
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,360
that Bolton guard when she 
escapes Harrenhal. 

1089
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,480
It's like, it's an, it's, it's 
like part of the kill. 

1090
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,720
She's like, I dropped it on the 
ground and she leans over and 

1091
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:13,320
she stabs him in the throat. 
So she's less powerful without 

1092
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,480
him and the wishes, But the the 
notion that she could be more 

1093
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:22,160
powerful really motivates her. 
And she adjusts quickly, in part

1094
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,760
because the status she gains 
through being Roose Bolton's 

1095
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,600
servant doesn't change her 
nightly routine, though the 

1096
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,200
prayer continues. 
And as I said, she actually has 

1097
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,600
less duties under Ruse, even 
though it's a promotion to help 

1098
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,760
with Ruse, who's, you know, an 
awful man. 

1099
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,440
She actually has more alone time
because Ruse's requirements are 

1100
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,440
somehow lesser than Wese's, 
because that actually makes 

1101
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,560
sense because she's working for 
the entire castle now. 

1102
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,920
She's just working for one guy. 
So while Ruse is out hunting and

1103
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,320
this is the hunting scene when 
he's out symbolically hunting 

1104
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,920
wolves in concert with his turn 
against how Stark, which Arya 

1105
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,680
has no clue about, which is very
ironic that it happens in front 

1106
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,480
of her. 
She doesn't figure it out. 

1107
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,440
She just still doesn't know he's
associated with the Red Wedding.

1108
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,400
So it's like this guy was right 
there. 

1109
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,320
And then later she'll learn, 
man, that guy was was the the 

1110
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,200
cause of so many problems for my
house and for myself. 

1111
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,200
And she could have she could 
have gotten him, but she never 

1112
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,600
she never knew. 
So while he's out hunting, we 

1113
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,600
get this scene showing us that 
instead of a prayer that she's 

1114
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,760
whispering at night, it's 
becoming more she's she's got 

1115
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,880
more confidence in it. 
And it's not just a whisper, 

1116
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,200
it's something she says out 
loud. 

1117
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,520
Here it is she or she is 
practicing her needlework in the

1118
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,400
Godswood quote. 
She slashed at Birch leaves till

1119
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,920
the splintery point of the 
broken broomstick was green and 

1120
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,400
sticky. 
Sir Gregor, she breathed. 

1121
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:49,640
Dunson polyver raft the sweetly.
She spun and leapt and balanced 

1122
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,560
on the balls of her feet, 
darting this way and that, 

1123
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,040
knocking pine cones flying. 
The tickler. 

1124
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,680
She called out one time, the 
Hound the next. 

1125
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,520
Sir Ellen, Sir Marin, Queen 
Cersei. 

1126
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,600
The bowl of an oak loomed before
her and she lunged to drive her 

1127
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,640
point through it, grunting 
Joffrey, Joffrey, Joffrey. 

1128
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,160
Her arms and legs were dappled 
by sunlight and the shadows of 

1129
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,800
leaves. 
A Sheen of sweat covered her 

1130
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,840
skin by the time she paused. 
The heel of her right foot was 

1131
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,240
bloody where she'd skinned it, 
so she stood 1 legged before the

1132
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,600
heart tree and raised her sword 
in salute. 

1133
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,080
Valar Morghulis, she told the 
old gods of the North. 

1134
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,640
She liked how the words sounded 
when she said them. 

1135
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,360
So there you go, associating 
these things together, what 

1136
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,560
she's learned from Jockin with 
the Old Gods of the North, sort 

1137
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:52,120
of syncretism of sorts, her own 
version of of old gods mixed 

1138
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,040
with the House of Black and 
White, which she doesn't even 

1139
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,800
know the House of Black and 
white by this point, but that's 

1140
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,400
what she's doing, right? 
By the way, excellent reading 

1141
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,480
there, Shay. 
That was really good. 

1142
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,840
I'm. 
Greeting like angry, are you? 

1143
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,520
Yeah. 
It lines up pretty well. 

1144
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,800
So this is also the chapter she 
leads. 

1145
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,720
It's the final chapter of A 
Clash of Kings for her. 

1146
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,560
So this is like sort of her 
maybe building up her courage a 

1147
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:22,320
little more and realizing how 
she's got to get out of there. 

1148
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,400
She goes and talks to Ruse, and 
this is when Ruse tells her 

1149
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,080
that, yeah, she's going to, he's
going to give the castle to 

1150
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,000
Vargo Haute and and she's going 
to stay with him. 

1151
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,240
And she's like, am I? 
I don't think I'm going to do 

1152
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,760
that, actually. 
And she leaves right away. 

1153
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,320
And that's when she does the 
dropping coin thing and kills 

1154
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:41,320
the guard and escapes by partly 
by lying to Gendry about what 

1155
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,480
Vargo Haute's going to do. 
She says Vargo Haute's going to 

1156
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,080
cut off his foot. 
Virgo didn't say he would do 

1157
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,240
that. 
He might have done it. 

1158
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,000
I mean, he might might have been
correct, even though she didn't 

1159
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,200
know for sure. 
So either way, it's another good

1160
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,920
example of, hey, sometimes a lie
is was the right thing to do. 

1161
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,960
Now, after escaping Harrenhal, 
of course, we get into a storm 

1162
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,640
of sorts. 
And this is when she's caught by

1163
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,840
the Brother without Banners and 
she sees the justice of the gods

1164
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,200
fail. 
This is very interesting to her.

1165
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,120
Sandor beats Barrick and is set 
free. 

1166
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,320
She knows Sandor's guilty. 
This isn't some like, well, 

1167
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,680
what's going to happen? 
She's very surprised and 

1168
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,040
disturbed by the result because 
the gods were supposed to be 

1169
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,160
watching and they were wrong. 
She knows for a fact that Sandor

1170
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,880
killed Micah and that it was 
unjust, but he got away. 

1171
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,360
He was freed. 
They had to let him go. 

1172
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,520
And more confusingly, Barrick 
stood up after being chopped 

1173
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,160
nearly in half. 
Like what the heck happened 

1174
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:45,000
there? 
So that's confusing but doesn't 

1175
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,080
directly relate to the list. 
It does give Arya an even, maybe

1176
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,520
stranger sense of what death 
means because, well, you've got 

1177
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,760
people who just stand right back
up and aren't dead even though 

1178
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,160
they took mortal wounds. 
And of course that comes right 

1179
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,480
is going to come around, 
presumably with Sandor himself, 

1180
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,520
who she left for dead. 
She thinks at first he doesn't 

1181
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,800
deserve the gift of mercy, and 
then multiple times later, she 

1182
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,680
regrets that. 
She's like, I should have put 

1183
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,320
him out of his misery. 
Of course, he's not dead. 

1184
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,520
So he's going to be like, oh, 
well, I'm glad I didn't give you

1185
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,560
the gift of mercy after all, 
because you're alive. 

1186
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,840
Presuming they ever meet again, 
I think they probably will, or 

1187
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,240
at least hear about each other. 
And so that's all very 

1188
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,520
interesting to compare to each 
other to, to size up as as one 

1189
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,000
whole, to think about this trial
by combat. 

1190
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,440
Barrick doesn't actually die. 
Sandor should have died and then

1191
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,680
does die later, but doesn't die 
actually. 

1192
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:48,080
So and as farther into the story
as we get, I think we'll see 

1193
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,320
more and more people defying 
death either through just 

1194
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,520
confusion, like Sandra Clegane. 
There's nothing supernatural 

1195
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,280
about Sandra Clegane's example, 
but with Barrick, and if she 

1196
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,000
finds out that Barrick 
Donderian's soul or spirit or 

1197
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,560
whatever is why her mother is 
walking around. 

1198
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,880
I mean, this is all very heavy 
for Arya and it's all very 

1199
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,440
confusing as to how death works.
It's like, well, death isn't 

1200
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,360
working the way death is 
supposed to work here. 

1201
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,520
Now, of course, she is stolen by
Sand Oraclegame. 

1202
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,160
Kidnapped, for lack of a better 
word. 

1203
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,600
I know. 
Actually, kidnapped is pretty 

1204
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,560
much the perfect word. 
And they spend a lot of time 

1205
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,880
riding around the Riverland 
together. 

1206
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,160
And more on him a little bit 
later. 

1207
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,280
He is on the list, so we have a 
separate section just for him. 

1208
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,840
But this culminates with the Red
Wedding. 

1209
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,640
They get to the Red Wedding. 
She starts to warm up to him a 

1210
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:40,120
little bit, as much as she can, 
you know, forgiven his crimes. 

1211
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,960
But she stops wanting to kill 
him and eventually takes him off

1212
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,280
the list and stuff like that. 
And then they go to the end of 

1213
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:54,880
the crossroads and they find out
Joffrey is dead right before the

1214
01:03:54,880 --> 01:04:00,320
duel between Polliver and the 
Tickler and Arya and Sandor and 

1215
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,080
that Squire. 
So and that's of course when she

1216
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,840
parts from Sandor. 
So let's talk about Joffrey 

1217
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,640
because this is the one that 
first that happens first there 

1218
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,680
in that scene, she finds out 
that he's dead. 

1219
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,280
And it's like, wow, that's 
amazing. 

1220
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,880
But before that, he's probably 
the number one person on her 

1221
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,720
list again, for fairly obvious 
reasons, for he was part of the 

1222
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:31,360
Nymeria faffo, you know, 
situation there where Cersei had

1223
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,720
lady executed and all that, 
where both Santa and Joffrey 

1224
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:39,400
lied about what happened. 
And of course, even bigger than 

1225
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,120
that was Joffrey executing her 
father. 

1226
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:46,280
So lots of stuff she and even 
before that, she hated him from 

1227
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,960
the first time she saw him at 
when when she was training or 

1228
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,720
when he was training with Rob 
and she and John were watching 

1229
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,800
and and watching Joffrey be 
terrible. 

1230
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,560
And John said Joffrey truly is a
little shit and Ari was like 

1231
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:02,320
Yep. 
But then Joran remember Joran 

1232
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,360
explains to her that he was paid
to wait. 

1233
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,480
He was he was paid to wait to 
hold his wagons because Lord 

1234
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,800
Stark would be joining his 
journey N he'd be taking the 

1235
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,520
black. 
Joran told Aria this and she 

1236
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,400
knows what happens. 
She's like she figures out what 

1237
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,000
really happened and knows who to
blame. 

1238
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,680
Quote. 
Joffrey, Aria breathed. 

1239
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,320
Someone should kill him. 
Someone will, but it won't be 

1240
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,600
me, nor you neither. 
I like his voice. 

1241
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:36,240
Yeah, that was my urine, right? 
So that's reminiscent of Sansa 

1242
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,400
thinking someone should chop off
Janos Slint's head, which John 

1243
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,440
does later oblige. 
In this case, the someone is in 

1244
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,920
part the same someone for her, 
responsible for her father's 

1245
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,840
death. 
But it's actually several 

1246
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,800
Someone's right because lots of 
people conspired to kill 

1247
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,480
Joffrey. 
It's not even entirely clear how

1248
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,480
many people, but we know Olenna 
and Littlefinger for sure. 

1249
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,200
And they made Sansa included in 
that. 

1250
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:06,840
And of course this comes up in 
the story when he's dead. 

1251
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,960
They're told that Sansa was part
of it, right? 

1252
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,680
And then she's like, what? 
Because the story, the story is 

1253
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,040
very dubious, though. 
It's Sansa turned into a bat 

1254
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:22,120
wolf and flew off after blaming 
the imp and Sandor laughs about 

1255
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,200
that and and Ari's like, that's 
stupid. 

1256
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,520
Sansa doesn't know spells, she 
knows songs, so she doesn't 

1257
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,280
fully form a thought about it. 
But everyone knows Tyrion 

1258
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,960
escaped by his lost after his 
lost trial by combat. 

1259
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,200
So that's his common knowledge. 
Even Ari and Sandor know that. 

1260
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,680
And despite all the swirling 
rumors, there's no disputing 

1261
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,480
that Joffrey's dead. 
So she knows that for a fact 

1262
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,560
now. 
And it circles around too. 

1263
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,120
If we go, if we Fast forward all
the way to the Mercy chapter, 

1264
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,800
well, they're the play that 
she's in is called the Bloody 

1265
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,400
Hand. 
It's about Tyrion murdering 

1266
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,920
Joffrey among other things. 
So it probably we, we don't 

1267
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,920
actually see that spoken of in 
the play. 

1268
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,320
A lot of other details pop up 
here and there, but it's not 

1269
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,920
like Joffrey's name is 
specifically mentioned. 

1270
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,560
You would you would just assume 
it's in there. 

1271
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,120
And the TV version had him 
there, if I remember correctly. 

1272
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,520
Not that that has much bearing 
here, but still. 

1273
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,560
Just a way to jog our memories. 
You would wonder though, Nina 

1274
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,880
asks a good question here. 
What would Arya's take be on the

1275
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,520
depiction of that event in the 
play? 

1276
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,960
She's like, that's not how it 
happened, or it's close enough, 

1277
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,480
or if she just doesn't care. 
I imagine it's not the third 

1278
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,440
option. 
I imagine she does care, but she

1279
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,640
probably keeps it to herself. 
I wonder if we'll find that out,

1280
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,840
because by the end of the Mercy 
chapter, she already knows that 

1281
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,840
she's going to be kicked out. 
She's going to face the 

1282
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,200
consequences for what she's 
done. 

1283
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,080
So we'll see. 
Now in this moment where Joffrey

1284
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,240
calls for the execution of her 
father, it's of course Sir Ellen

1285
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,360
who actually does the execution.
More on him later, though, 

1286
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,000
because we're going through the 
the people who are dead and 

1287
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,160
Ellen is not dead. 
Again, I want to point out 

1288
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,400
Littlefinger's involvement. 
Littlefinger is almost certainly

1289
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,400
the one who planted the seed in 
Joffrey's mind, the one who sow 

1290
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,960
sowed the chaos here and said, 
hey, you know, don't listen to 

1291
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,440
the women. 
They're soft hearted. 

1292
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,680
You know, how can you possibly 
stand for treason? 

1293
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,480
You know, you should execute 
this guide to set an example, 

1294
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:11,480
right? 
You know, and he's like, that's 

1295
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,080
strength. 
That's what a man would do. 

1296
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,080
That's what the kind of things 
Littlefinger probably said to 

1297
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,960
Joffrey to to get him to execute
Ned. 

1298
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,439
Anyway, Arya does need to be a 
little more savvy about such 

1299
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,200
things. 
I I would hope anyway that she 

1300
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,479
learns to to look at who's 
giving the orders. 

1301
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,399
As we said, I feel like Tywin, 
it's too obviously too late for 

1302
01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:29,240
Tywin. 
He's dead. 

1303
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:32,520
But I do think that this is a 
thing that we can say yet about.

1304
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,000
Like I think Arya will start to 
understand some of these things,

1305
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:37,600
whether it's taught to her or 
whether she figures it out on 

1306
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,840
her own or a little, both. 
Either way, I think it's coming,

1307
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,240
getting wiser in the ways of the
world. 

1308
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,240
I mean, it's part of her 
education. 

1309
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,600
It's the kind of thing that 
would have, we might have fast 

1310
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,240
forwarded on if we had the five 
year gap. 

1311
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,920
She probably just jumped. 
I had five years and she's 

1312
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,080
probably just wiser. 
But that makes sense. 

1313
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,279
I mean, going from age 11 to 16,
you you would think 5 that's 

1314
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,640
important. 
Five years of wisdom gaining 

1315
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,279
there. 
A lot of naivety would be shed 

1316
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:03,319
in those five years. 
So, but it's going to have to 

1317
01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:05,520
happen differently, the way it's
actually playing out. 

1318
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,439
She also, one of the things she 
has to come face to face with is

1319
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,760
that, yeah, her father and 
mother can be wrong sometimes. 

1320
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,120
I don't think she's fully 
grasped that. 

1321
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,160
I think she's maybe danced 
around that idea in her mind, 

1322
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,000
but maybe not fully suggested 
it. 

1323
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,600
She's willing to admit Sansa 
could be wrong. 

1324
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,240
So she's not like my family's 
always right. 

1325
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,880
She doesn't have that attitude. 
But like a lot of young people, 

1326
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,160
very young people, you often 
have a unrealistic version of 

1327
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,399
your own family, your own 
parents, like, thinking that 

1328
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:39,200
they can't do anything wrong if 
they're, if they're good 

1329
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,479
parents, that is, which Ned and 
Caitlin are, I would say. 

1330
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,319
Yeah. 
Anita also wonders, like, what 

1331
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:47,080
extent will Aria ever learn 
about Littlefinger's crimes? 

1332
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,520
Like, surely she won't learn 
everything that he's guilty of. 

1333
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,319
That would be kind of ridiculous
for everything to come to light.

1334
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:55,960
I mean, he's guilty of so much. 
And I it's probably more of a 

1335
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:57,600
Sansa thing to deal with 
Littlefinger. 

1336
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,400
That's her great foe, her final 
boss of sorts to topple. 

1337
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,920
But Arya could help. 
Arya could be the one this to 

1338
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,280
pat to swing those swords or 
says I could pass the sentence, 

1339
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,120
but she won't be swinging that 
sword herself. 

1340
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,120
I don't think Arya might be the 
one to do that, though. 

1341
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:16,560
And especially if Arya learns a 
few things, it wouldn't take 

1342
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,040
much for Arya to be on board 
with killing that guy, right? 

1343
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,760
And it's like, Yep, he's the one
that encouraged our father's 

1344
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,680
death. 
He's the one that, you know, 

1345
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,880
killed Aunt Lysa. 
He just there's a bajillion 

1346
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,560
crime. 
Jane Poole, he could find out 

1347
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,520
what she did to her. 
Like if that's that's one of the

1348
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,920
more likely ones, Arya being in 
Braavos where Jane Poole's going

1349
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,200
to be with Justin Massey. 
If they run into each other, 

1350
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:39,880
she's like, oh, hey, that's Jane
Poole. 

1351
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,440
I know her. 
She made fun of me. 

1352
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:46,000
But you know, that's probably 
not that much of A obstacle to 

1353
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,200
them having some sort of 
reconnection and she'll find out

1354
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,080
what the Boltons did to Jane 
Poole. 

1355
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,680
But that Littlefinger's the one 
who put her in that position and

1356
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,040
and like, forced her into sex 
work and then sold her to the 

1357
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:02,280
Boltons as fake Aria. 
So there's a lot she can learn 

1358
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,800
through that connection. 
But getting back to Joffrey, her

1359
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:10,640
reaction to him when she hears 
that she was poisoned, given how

1360
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,880
badly she wanted his death, even
above a lot of the others, let's

1361
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,840
hear the quote. 
Joffrey's dead. 

1362
01:11:19,480 --> 01:11:24,000
She could almost see him, with 
his blonde curls and his mean 

1363
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,000
smile and his fat, soft lips. 
Joffrey's dead. 

1364
01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:32,200
She knew it ought to make her 
happy, but somehow she still 

1365
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:37,760
felt empty inside. 
Joffrey was dead, but if Rob was

1366
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:43,440
dead too, what did it matter? 
She's getting pretty close to 

1367
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:47,600
the Miri Mazdur philosophy 
example, which says if 

1368
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,600
everything you love is lost, 
then what good is life, right? 

1369
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:54,360
She hasn't lost everyone, but 
she lost her mother, she lost 

1370
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,080
Rob, she lost her father, and 
she thinks maybe she's lost more

1371
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,040
than that. 
As it turns out, the rest of her

1372
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,160
family is alive, but she's not 
sure of that. 

1373
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,360
So she's having. 
It's quite a moment for her. 

1374
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,640
She thinks that she should be 
happy that Joffrey's dead, but 

1375
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,040
she's not. 
Death isn't as sweet as she 

1376
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,440
thought it would be. 
Revenge isn't what she expected,

1377
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,240
and maybe it's deserved, but it 
doesn't make her feel happy. 

1378
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:21,160
Justice isn't supposed to make 
her feel happy, it's supposed to

1379
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,320
maybe be satisfying or just a 
thing that needs to be done. 

1380
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,040
It's a duty, but it's not what 
she thought it would be and 

1381
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,080
that's a really important part 
of her character development and

1382
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,960
is likely playing a role in how 
she sees death in the later 

1383
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,400
cases. 
It's probably not that Joffrey 

1384
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,520
isn't probably the person that 
horrified her the most. 

1385
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,720
That's probably the Tickler, but
this is the one who she probably

1386
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,680
personally hated the most. 
So her reaction is very telling.

1387
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,920
There's no the fact that there's
no sweetness to it. 

1388
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,080
On the other hand, the Red 
Wedding was so fresh in her 

1389
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,920
mind. 
I mean, it did it was only a 

1390
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,200
couple chapters prior to this, 
so she's still very much feeling

1391
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,280
the effects of that. 
So a lot's going on. 

1392
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,160
And it's also even in this case,
she doesn't have much time to 

1393
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,000
even think about it in this 
moment because this is again 

1394
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,920
happening at the end of the 
crossroads, right? 

1395
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,000
This is all being said to her 
right before a huge bloody duel 

1396
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,680
breaks out. 
So very quickly she's distracted

1397
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,080
and fighting for her life. 
So it's not like she has a lot 

1398
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,320
of time to ponder and and 
philosophize about her own views

1399
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,520
on death. 
Not like an 11 year old would 

1400
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,760
even do that. 
She might do it, you know, as a 

1401
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,880
matter of course, but she 
wouldn't actively be like, you 

1402
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,040
know what? 
I need to think about death 

1403
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,600
more. 
I need to consider my 

1404
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,240
relationship with death. 
So yeah, things escalate rather 

1405
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,560
quickly and it leads to more 
names being crossed off. 

1406
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,600
Oliver is the first one to die 
killed by the Hound. 

1407
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:44,840
Oliver stole Needle from Arya 
and right after this encounter 

1408
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,720
she takes Needle back and uses 
it to finish off the third 

1409
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,840
person killed in this encounter.
So Polyfer dies by Sandor and 

1410
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,160
she's able to cross him off 
later when she the next time she

1411
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,080
thinks of the list now she 
thinks of him as less brutal, 

1412
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:02,960
not a cruel sadist. 
And the logic of he stole Needle

1413
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,000
from her is a little bit lighter
than a lot of the crimes 

1414
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,120
committed by others, like the 
Tickler, for example. 

1415
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:09,760
But he's one of the mountains 
men. 

1416
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,800
I mean, he's complicit to a lot 
of crimes, a lot of horrible 

1417
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,720
things, even if he's less brutal
than the mountains of the 

1418
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,280
average mountains man. 
That's the bars so low that you 

1419
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,360
might not trip over it. 
So it's pretty bad. 

1420
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,520
So he's quite dead. 
Then we go to the Tickler, who 

1421
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,440
as we said earlier, is probably 
the one that scared Ari the 

1422
01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:34,600
most. 22, Scary to hate. 
She thought about him, don't 

1423
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:40,240
know what his real name ever is.
And this is perhaps the man that

1424
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,120
most inspired the list in the 
1st place. 

1425
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,760
If anyone. 
There's several. 

1426
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,320
There's too many people involved
in this to pin it all in one 

1427
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,360
person. 
But if you're going to say who 

1428
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,160
has the biggest share of 
creating the list other than 

1429
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:56,520
Aria herself, I would put it on 
the Tickler and think of how she

1430
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,960
reacts. 
Remember that moment? 

1431
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,920
I didn't want to quote it 
because this is too much for to 

1432
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,600
make a Shaya read this, but 
think of how she reacts when 

1433
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,920
killing him. 
It's not her usual demeanor, she

1434
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,120
is. 
She's got the wolfblood. 

1435
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:13,680
She has gone full Brandon Stark 
or John when he's sparring with 

1436
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,960
Iron Emmett and he just like 
loses time. 

1437
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:18,080
She's stabbing him over and 
over. 

1438
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,520
She's shouting the things he 
would say calmly to people when 

1439
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,000
torturing them. 
Is there gold in the village? 

1440
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,240
Is there gems repeating these 
things over and over as she's 

1441
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,240
stabbing him? 
It's really extreme. 

1442
01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:32,520
Sandor pulls her off of him. 
Like that's enough, you know, 

1443
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,640
like that guy is quite dead. 
You're disturbing even me. 

1444
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,960
And of course Sandor has he's 
seen some stuff, right? 

1445
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,920
Like disturbing Sandor, like, 
wow, what is that's bad? 

1446
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:47,400
Like what is what disturbs him, 
you know, So she's just, it's 

1447
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:52,080
like this pent up rage and it's 
like all the emotion that went 

1448
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,280
into her creating the list in 
the 1st place is released in 

1449
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,680
that moment of stabbing him. 
And she thinks of how easy it 

1450
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,880
was. 
Like he's so focused on the 

1451
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,720
hound because Oliver's dead and 
he's like, oh, I'm, I'm, I'm 

1452
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,200
one-on-one in with the hound. 
And that focus is what enables 

1453
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,040
her to sneak up behind him and 
stab him in the back. 

1454
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,920
And that's that. 
So that's the first one she 

1455
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,880
crosses off the list. 
Personally, again, I don't count

1456
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,240
Wheeze and Chiswick, even though
they were on the list because 

1457
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,760
Jock can cross them off. 
She gave the order, he did it. 

1458
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,440
She didn't commit the murder 
herself. 

1459
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,520
There is certainly that doesn't 
mean she's not responsible, but 

1460
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,560
still I want to make that still 
a different level of 

1461
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,360
culpability. 
Now remember there was that 

1462
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,480
scene where she's clutching the 
coin. 

1463
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,320
We we we quoted that earlier. 
She quite clutches the coin and 

1464
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:42,160
she's thinking of the list and 
she says Valor Morgolis. 

1465
01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:45,920
It's an interesting moment here 
when this happens again because 

1466
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,080
the personality, the the, the 
personal aspects of revenge 

1467
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,720
start to fade for her. 
It's pretty interesting. 

1468
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,880
Here we go, quote. 
Arya tried to imagine how they 

1469
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,160
would look when they were dead, 
but it was hard to bring their 

1470
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:03,160
faces to mind. 
The Hound, she could see, and 

1471
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:07,040
his brother, the mountain, and 
she would never forget Joffrey's

1472
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:12,560
face, or his mother's. 
But Raff and Dunson and Puliver 

1473
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,840
were all fading, and even the 
tickler whose looks had been so 

1474
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,600
commonplace. 
However, it's kind of like 

1475
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,400
riding a bike. 
Once you see that face again, it

1476
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,400
all comes back. 
The visual memory can be 

1477
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,840
restored when you are refreshed.
For example, let's Fast forward 

1478
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:35,360
to the Winds of Winter. 
Yes, Mercy chapter quote. 

1479
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:41,000
There were four guards, big hard
looking men in ring mail with 

1480
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,480
heavy Westerosi long swords 
sheathed at their hips. 

1481
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,280
Their Crimson cloaks were 
bordered in whorls of gold and 

1482
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,960
golden lions with red garnet 
eyes clasped each cloak at the 

1483
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,240
shoulder. 
When Mercy glanced at the faces 

1484
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:02,560
beneath the gilded lion crested 
helm, her belly gave a quiver. 

1485
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:08,080
The gods have given me a gift. 
Her fingers clutched hard at 

1486
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,880
Dana's arm. 
That guard, The one on the end 

1487
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,640
behind the Black Pearl. 
So she has no trouble 

1488
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,120
remembering him when his face is
right there to be seen. 

1489
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,000
She almost loses herself. 
She almost forgets herself. 

1490
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,720
She, Dana, of course, Dana has 
no idea who that is. 

1491
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,800
She asks about who he. 
She asks Dana. 

1492
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,240
She's like, who is that? 
You know that guy? 

1493
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,120
And he's, she's like, why would 
I know that guy? 

1494
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,600
He's a Westerosi guard. 
And she's like, oh, yeah, She's 

1495
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:32,920
like, why? 
Why are you even asking? 

1496
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,840
And she plays it off. 
Mercy's like, oh, he just seems 

1497
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,520
so handsome. 
And then she uses then she runs 

1498
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,160
with that idea of pretending 
she's attracted to him all the 

1499
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,920
way to his death. 
And who is this person? 

1500
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,720
It's RAF the sweetling. 
Now RAF is on the list because 

1501
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,240
he killed Lami Greenhans. 
He did a lot of other awful 

1502
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,240
things like a lot of the people 
on the list, especially the 

1503
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,240
mountains men. 
He killed a toddler and then her

1504
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:02,880
mother RAFF was definitely 
candid to be killed as Jockins 

1505
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,760
second or third wish. 
But Arya realized, like some of 

1506
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,080
the others, that he she couldn't
get him because he left to go to

1507
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:14,000
the battle of the Stone Mill and
wasn't around simply out of 

1508
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,560
range. 
But that worked out because she 

1509
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:22,640
got him herself much later. 
So this again is where I remind 

1510
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,560
you to check out our Mercy 
chapter audio playthrough. 

1511
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,800
Full acting and and sound 
effects and all that. 

1512
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,640
Different voices, a bunch of 
different people doing each 

1513
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,160
character. 
And she flirts with him while 

1514
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,680
she's on, while he's guarding 
during the play, telling him, 

1515
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,640
hey, we've got time to run off 
together because the play is 

1516
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,600
going to take a while. 
And she leads him to her home, 

1517
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:51,320
notably, which is dangerous not 
for her in terms of her putting 

1518
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,600
her in physical danger. 
But like, you're not a smooth 

1519
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,880
murderer isn't usually killing 
people in their own house, 

1520
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,640
right? 
That's usually a way to get 

1521
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,080
caught. 
Like that's usually do. 

1522
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,400
You're killing somewhere else 
where people won't find out. 

1523
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:05,800
Like it's not like she owns this
house. 

1524
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:07,560
It's like a little apartment 
that she's renting. 

1525
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:13,440
So she kills him with needle and
Nina points out how how this is 

1526
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:18,320
a really culmination of what 
she's learned at her time in 

1527
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,040
Bravos. 
Like every skill she's learned 

1528
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,640
in Bravos she puts into use to 
kill RAF the sweet link. 

1529
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,440
First of all, she's good enough 
at speaking Bravos a Bravosi 

1530
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:30,320
rather, and pretends to be bad 
at common. 

1531
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,960
And at one point she's like, 
yeah, he doesn't speak Pervosi. 

1532
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,200
Am I going to am I going to have
to pretend to know common? 

1533
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:37,600
Like how far am I willing to go 
with this? 

1534
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,680
And she she barely hesitates. 
She's like, OK, I'm going to 

1535
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,600
pretend to speak common badly. 
And she does that. 

1536
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,360
Then she knows enough about 
bodies. 

1537
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,200
She knows so much about anatomy 
that she's learned from the 

1538
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,280
House of black and white that 
she's able to just cut his 

1539
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,360
femoral artery, I think is the 
one he she cuts. 

1540
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,840
And he said so smooth. 
He doesn't even know she did it 

1541
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,000
on purpose. 
She's able to play it off like 

1542
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,800
an accident. 
She's like, Oh my God, I cut 

1543
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,040
you. 
You're bleeding so heavily. 

1544
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,880
And, and he's like, oh, what did
you do? 

1545
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,600
What, you know, get me a towel 
or whatever. 

1546
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,400
He doesn't realize that it was a
he doesn't recognize it as an 

1547
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,600
attack on him. 
She's so smooth with it. 

1548
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,400
And that's also having been 
taught by the faceless men to be

1549
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,000
so smooth with her knife. 
And then her plan to get him 

1550
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,160
there in the 1st place seems to 
be inspired by one of the sex 

1551
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:29,000
workers, Savrone. 
There was a girl, Savrone, who 

1552
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,280
would murder her clients. 
She's a sex worker that would 

1553
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,000
kill some of her clients and 
throw their bodies into the 

1554
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,600
canals to be eaten by eels. 
Which is what Arya does here. 

1555
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,520
She drags his body to be eaten 
by eels, throws it into the 

1556
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,560
canal after she kills him. 
She's like, now why did I do 

1557
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,720
that here? 
Why I got to drag his body all 

1558
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,640
the way to the canals? 
Because she wasn't thinking it 

1559
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,240
through. 
She was just so eager to scratch

1560
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,360
this name off and to put her 
skills into use. 

1561
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,520
And she puts the whole, she 
makes this whole thing into a 

1562
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,640
play. 
This whole episode, this whole 

1563
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,640
event of killing Rafta Swiegling
is a it's a theater production. 

1564
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,920
She she tells him she's going to
teach him to say a line, then 

1565
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,480
cues him to say that line. 
And that line is you'll need to 

1566
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:15,040
carry me, which is the last 
thing Lamy said. 

1567
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,800
What did he say to Lamy? 
He said think so and then 

1568
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,600
stabbed him through the throat 
with his spear. 

1569
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,560
You might remember the show 
version where he stabbed him 

1570
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,560
through the throat with a 
needle, which that's almost more

1571
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,440
poetic. 
But that's not what happened in 

1572
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:31,120
the book. 
But in the here in the book it 

1573
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,760
is the same exact phrase. 
You'll need to carry me. 

1574
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:39,000
And Aria says think so. 
And in the chapter the name 

1575
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:44,160
Rafta Sweetling isn't revealed 
at any point until she says 

1576
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,560
think so. 
It's just Lannister Guardsman 

1577
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,680
handsome. 
You can figure it out. 

1578
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,320
A lot of people knew who it was 
just from context, but the name 

1579
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,040
doesn't come up until this 
moment. 

1580
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,840
Quote. 
Raph the sweetling looked up 

1581
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:03,600
sharply as the long, thin blade 
came sliding from her sleeve. 

1582
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,240
She slipped it through his 
throat beneath the chin, 

1583
01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:12,360
twisted, and ripped it back out 
sideways with a single smooth 

1584
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,760
slash. 
A fine red rain followed, and in

1585
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:22,240
his eyes the light went out. 
Balar Morghulis, Arya whispered,

1586
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,160
but Raff was dead and did not 
hear. 

1587
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,800
She sniffed. 
And as I started to allude to a 

1588
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,280
minute ago, this is when she 
starts to think of the 

1589
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,360
consequences, start to realize 
the consequences, minor and 

1590
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,560
major, the minor consequences of
having to drag the body to the 

1591
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,640
canals, major consequences of, 
well, that's it for me. 

1592
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,400
And the the play, you know, and 
then the play Playhouse, they're

1593
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,640
going to kick me out of that. 
And it's going to be a problem 

1594
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,880
for some people because, for 
example, she thinks this would 

1595
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,960
make trouble for the Sea Lord 
and the envoy with the chicken 

1596
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,440
on his chest. 
She did not doubt they saw her. 

1597
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,720
The other guard that RAF was 
with, there was a pair of guards

1598
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:01,480
saw RAF leave with her and he's 
not going to come back. 

1599
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,360
And she is. 
So it's pretty blatant, like 

1600
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,160
this guard went off with her and
didn't come back. 

1601
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,880
And there's a witness. 
So yeah, it's this isn't 

1602
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,400
something she can just kind of 
evade and she knows it. 

1603
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:18,200
She absolutely knows it. 
And yeah, Nina points out, she 

1604
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:23,080
absolutely prioritizes her 
revenge over doing the faceless 

1605
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,080
man thing she's supposed to do. 
Like just completely throws it 

1606
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,480
all away in a second for a 
chance at revenge. 

1607
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:30,720
Just boom. 
Like, doesn't even think about 

1608
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:31,880
it. 
It's instant. 

1609
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,960
Doesn't consider it, doesn't. 
And maybe I shouldn't do this. 

1610
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,240
Is this worth it? 
No, just does it. 

1611
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:41,040
She just does it. 
Let's talk about alive. 

1612
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,440
Who's still alive? 
Alive in quotes, because Sandor 

1613
01:24:44,440 --> 01:24:47,400
Clegane is alive, as far as we 
know. 

1614
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,840
But Aria doesn't know that. 
So in a sense, he's dead. 

1615
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,960
In her mind, he's dead. 
Now, the reason, of course, he's

1616
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,040
on the list was 'cause he killed
Micah. 

1617
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,280
So in some ways he's the 
original member of the list, 

1618
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,400
because he was the first one to 
really do something. 

1619
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,280
Of all these things that 
someone's on the list for, This 

1620
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,600
was the first one, let's put it 
that way. 

1621
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,880
He also stole her from the 
Brother Without Banners, hit her

1622
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,320
with the flat of his axe. 
You know, she complained about 

1623
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,400
that, but even she's being 
stubborn about that one. 

1624
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,920
He say he actually saved her 
life with that one and I think 

1625
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:20,120
she even knows it. 
But Sandor is very unique on 

1626
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,680
this list, the only person to be
removed from the list for 

1627
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,800
reasons that aren't about his 
death. 

1628
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,120
Because she took him off the 
list before she left him for 

1629
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,640
dead. 
And it was, it's a way for 

1630
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,880
George wrote it suddenly, like 
she won't admit it, but she's 

1631
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,040
still saying her prayer and he's
not on it anymore. 

1632
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,760
So yeah, that happened. 
It's not, I wouldn't go so far 

1633
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,320
as I call him a father figure. 
And it's a bit of an inversion 

1634
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,640
of the wolf and cub trope. 
But it's a really, it's a good 

1635
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:47,600
one. 
It's a good version of it. 

1636
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:52,440
It's very it's clever. 
It's both meaningful and well 

1637
01:25:52,440 --> 01:25:55,280
written and touching in some 
ways, and also dark. 

1638
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,600
But they, the two of them have 
some interesting things in 

1639
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,000
common. 
So, yeah, she learned, he 

1640
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,080
learned. 
She learned a lot from him. 

1641
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,840
And arguably, he learned some 
things from her. 

1642
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,960
Maybe not. 
She wasn't trying to teach him, 

1643
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,280
but just their experience 
together taught him some things.

1644
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,040
You know, having actually caring
for somebody, actually having a 

1645
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,760
responsibility of caring for 
someone who's younger and, and 

1646
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,040
you wouldn't call Ari helpless, 
but someone who needs care. 

1647
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,360
Very important as well. 
Remember, Sandor taught her how 

1648
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,320
to kill with mercy. 
She learned that from him. 

1649
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,040
Didn't learn it from Ned or one 
of her brothers. 

1650
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:29,600
They encounter that mortally 
wounded Archer on the road after

1651
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,800
fleeing from the Red Wedding, 
and he asked for the gift of 

1652
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,280
mercy. 
Sandor very gently gives it to 

1653
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:40,320
him, shoves the blade in his 
heart quickly make it as 

1654
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:44,040
painless as possible, and is 
telling Aria this as he's doing 

1655
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:44,840
it. 
Like teaching her. 

1656
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,520
This is how you put someone out 
of their mercy, or out of their 

1657
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,160
misery rather. 
This is how you give someone 

1658
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:54,320
mercy. 
It's a subtle in some ways and 

1659
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,160
very unsubtle in other ways, 
foreshadowing the types of 

1660
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,120
things she's going to learn at 
the House of Black and White. 

1661
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,800
Killing and putting people out 
of their misery. 

1662
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,200
Mercy killing. 
I mean, she's mercy, right? 

1663
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:05,720
Yeah. 
I mean, these are the this is 

1664
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,040
this is a person that would have
crawled into the House of Black 

1665
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,560
and White to take the gift of 
death because he's suffering. 

1666
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,960
And the perfect example of that 
well before she ever gets to 

1667
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,000
Bravos. 
And it's also ironic that she's 

1668
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,560
learning things about death from
Sandor Clegane, who has a pretty

1669
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,400
unique relationship with death 
too. 

1670
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,120
Death and pain and suffering and
trauma. 

1671
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,640
This is a man who is the 
opposite of a faceless man. 

1672
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,320
This is a guy who can't go 
anywhere without being 

1673
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,240
recognized. 
His great size, his burned face,

1674
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,000
his reputation. 
This comes up in this same 

1675
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,520
chapter. 
After they give this guy mercy, 

1676
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,240
they encounter that small 
village where they hope to lose 

1677
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,120
themselves for a while, where 
Sandra was like, hey, I can, I 

1678
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,680
can build this fence for you. 
I can maybe help you if the if 

1679
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,680
the Klansmen come raiding. 
But they're like, no, we don't 

1680
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,200
want you to hear Sandor. 
And he's like, oh, so you know 

1681
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,200
who I am? 
They're like, yeah, even here in

1682
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,160
this remote village, we know who
the Hound is. 

1683
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:03,920
Joffrey's dog, they call him. 
So it's very much the opposite 

1684
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,320
of a Faceless man. 
Compare the Hound, a guy she's 

1685
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,440
attached to. 
There's nowhere they can go 

1686
01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:12,720
without being recognized. 
When she gets into the faceless 

1687
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,040
man, they're experts at. 
You never even know if you may 

1688
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,560
have seen this guy 20 times 
before and. 

1689
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,040
And he's standing right in front
of you, and he wouldn't even 

1690
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,680
know it. 
So it's interesting dichotomy 

1691
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,400
there. 
But yeah, she thinks he's dead. 

1692
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,960
And as I said before, she 
regrets not giving him the gift 

1693
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:29,360
of mercy. 
She thought, after all, maybe he

1694
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,480
did deserve it. 
But that'll be interesting when 

1695
01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:35,120
she presumably encounters him 
again, Like, hey, you're, you're

1696
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,080
walking around. 
Cool. 

1697
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,240
And I wonder what his reaction 
to her will be, you know, like, 

1698
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,520
will he think fondly of her? 
Is it one of the few people in 

1699
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,520
the world that he doesn't hate? 
You know, Santora's full of 

1700
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,760
hate, but he doesn't hate Arya. 
So yeah, I'm looking forward to 

1701
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,040
a reunion there. 
Maybe maybe it won't happen 

1702
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:54,120
though. 
Maybe that's just a show thing, 

1703
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,080
but I think I think they'll get 
a chance to at least have a 

1704
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,040
little convo. 
Maybe. 

1705
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,000
Now his brother, this is a 
little bit simpler in a lot of 

1706
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,840
ways. 
The Gregor is not as complex as 

1707
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:08,760
a character as as downed as his 
younger brother and he but his 

1708
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:13,120
status is arguably more 
complicated because again, this 

1709
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,360
is is he alive? 
I mean, what do you call him? 

1710
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,040
Is he undead? 
I think undead is the right 

1711
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,800
term, but what do other people 
see in the world? 

1712
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,160
What do they see him as? 
Because we can call him that 

1713
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,600
pretty easily, but in the world,
what do they call him? 

1714
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,640
Like that's just some creepy guy
that never talks or eats or uses

1715
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:32,520
the bathroom. 
So he's on the list for 

1716
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,000
capturing Arya and the other 
small folk and, and being in 

1717
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,680
charge of directly in charge of 
the people that abused her and 

1718
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,040
the people she was with like 
Dunson and Polliver and all that

1719
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,680
and the Tickler, etcetera. 
Now everyone knows he was 

1720
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,000
stabbed by Oberyn Martel. 
That trial by combat was famous 

1721
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,480
and widespread. 
The results of that were just, 

1722
01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:56,560
it was the news, the big news. 
But Ari is actually unaware of 

1723
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,240
of his death because nobody 
actually knows what happened. 

1724
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:04,960
They're like, Oh yeah, he was 
taken back and operated on or 

1725
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,520
given surgery, but no one know 
there's an 8 foot guy in armor 

1726
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,560
walking around. 
Like it doesn't take a genius to

1727
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,320
to figure that out. 
Like a lot of people have 

1728
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:14,960
figured out Kevin thinks about 
it. 

1729
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,400
Like I'm pretty sure I know who 
that guy is. 

1730
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,240
You can't really hide an 8 foot 
monster night. 

1731
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,880
So Aria has never seen another 8
foot person she's going to know.

1732
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:30,000
However, the odds of Aria being 
the one to actually deal with 

1733
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,160
Greg or being the one to 
actually finally put him down 

1734
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,560
seems pretty unlikely. 
That seems like it'll be Sandor 

1735
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,160
or someone entirely unrelated. 
Who knows, But I doubt it'll be 

1736
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,800
Arya. 
That one would actually be a 

1737
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:41,200
challenge for her. 
Some of these other ones would 

1738
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,440
be easy, but you can't just, 
like, stab him in the back of 

1739
01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:46,840
his throat and. 
And that won't kill him. 

1740
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,600
Yeah, he'll just be like, hey, 
don't do that. 

1741
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,040
But without the words. 
Dunsen is next. 

1742
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:58,760
Dunsen is by far the most 
unknown, the least descript. 

1743
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:03,960
The the thing guy we know the 
least about, the one that has 

1744
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:08,440
the the least description. 
He stole Gendry's horned helmet 

1745
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:14,320
that's even weaker than 
Poliver's, stealing her sword 

1746
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,200
for a reason to deserve death. 
But again, this is one of the 

1747
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,240
mountains men. 
So yeah, he's I'm sure he's done

1748
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:25,320
awful things. 
It's a safe assumption, but he I

1749
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,840
guess he loses the bullhelm. 
Maybe George screwed up here, 

1750
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,760
but it's not a screw up that 
matters. 

1751
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,800
And it might not be a screw up. 
It's just a possibility because 

1752
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,560
he because Dunsen takes the bull
helm from Gendry but then Oliver

1753
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,240
is seen wearing it later. 
But Oliver doesn't have the helm

1754
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,840
when Sandor and Aria kill him at
the crossroads in. 

1755
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:46,760
So the horned helm is missing. 
Oh my God, Gendry's horn helm. 

1756
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,160
It's out there somewhere. 
Dunsen might have it again 

1757
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,000
because Oliver's dead now. 
Maybe they maybe he lost it to 

1758
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,120
him playing dice, but now 
Oliver's dead so he got it back.

1759
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,040
I don't know. 
No idea where the helm is, but 

1760
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:03,160
that's a a potential way to 
identify him later because that 

1761
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,840
that particular helmet is is 
notable to us now. 

1762
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,960
Like RAF and the Tickler and 
Polliver, he was a candidate to 

1763
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:15,240
be the second or third kill of 
Death Wish by a Jockin, but he 

1764
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,640
like the others wrote out on 
campaign to the Battle of Stone 

1765
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,160
Mill before she could make that 
call. 

1766
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:23,200
Now he of course unlike those 
other three, Polliver, the 

1767
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,040
Tickler and Rath the Sweetling 
are all dead. 

1768
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,960
He is not. 
He appears to have been among 

1769
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:32,120
the men sent by Jamie to escort 
Willis Manderley to Maidenpool. 

1770
01:32:32,440 --> 01:32:34,560
Cause Willis Manderley was was 
ransomed, right? 

1771
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,440
And they he and Manderley, Wyman
Manderley and Tywin finally came

1772
01:32:38,440 --> 01:32:41,560
to a deal. 
Remember the fake Davos 

1773
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,680
execution plot? 
So Willis was sent home and 

1774
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:50,480
Jamie wanted those men escorted.
So he was like hey nothing. 

1775
01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:52,560
I don't want anything bad 
happening to these guys. 

1776
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,040
This is an important dude. 
We need him to get home safely. 

1777
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,840
Red Ronit Connington was in 
charge of these men, and he sent

1778
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,080
the mountains men with Red 
Ronit. 

1779
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:03,760
He's like, hey, you don't have 
enough dudes. 

1780
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,600
I'll send the mountains men with
you. 

1781
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,360
These are dudes. 
Use them, you know? 

1782
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,600
Fast forward a little bit later.
Red Ronit clearly seems to have 

1783
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,160
accomplished that mission 
because Willis Manderly did 

1784
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,360
arrive back in White Harbor. 
But Red Ronit isn't in Maiden 

1785
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,440
Pool anymore because we see him 
show up in King's Landing during

1786
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:26,840
the Kevin epilogue and he 
complaints about the Golden 

1787
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,360
Company and his cousin John 
Connington taking Griffin's 

1788
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,160
Roost. 
He's like, they did this, I've 

1789
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,280
got nothing to do with it, don't
consider me part of them. 

1790
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,840
I want my castle back. 
I'll do anything to prove it. 

1791
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,720
Give me an army, I'll take the 
castle back myself, blah blah 

1792
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:45,520
blah. 
So that's presumably Dunson 

1793
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:52,400
followed Red Ron Connington to 
King's Landing when he after 

1794
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:53,840
completing this mission to 
Maiden Pool. 

1795
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:59,240
And this adds up in the form of 
the Mercy Chapter because Raph 

1796
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,040
the Sweetling was in this group 
as well. 

1797
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:05,400
Raph and Dunsen both went with 
Red Ronnet to deliver Loyalist 

1798
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,720
manually to Maiden Pool. 
So it figures that Raph then 

1799
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:12,920
followed Red Ronnet to King's 
Landing and then was sent to 

1800
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:18,120
Braavos with the Master of Coin.
It makes sense that Dunsen was 

1801
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,960
perhaps nominated to go in that 
as well. 

1802
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,040
He might have even, he might 
even be in Braavos and just 

1803
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,520
wasn't in that group of four. 
But probably not. 

1804
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,880
Probably he's just still in 
King's Landing, just doing guard

1805
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,600
stuff and hanging out, being a 
guard. 

1806
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,640
And quite possibly he'll just 
die in King's Landing amongst 

1807
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,760
all the stuff that's going to 
happen. 

1808
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,320
Whether someone burns the city, 
whether it's who who who 

1809
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,480
actually burns the city isn't 
our question at the of the 

1810
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:45,360
moment. 
The point being, Dunson quite 

1811
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,880
possibly will be killed during 
all that, that conflagration, 

1812
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,040
whether it's Danny doing it, 
whether it's old pyromancer 

1813
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,280
stuff, whether it's some 
combination of both, whether 

1814
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:58,360
it's all the above, who knows? 
Yeah, Dunsen might not get out 

1815
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,160
of all that. 
But if he does, it could be an 

1816
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:05,360
interesting, like, leftover, 
like dangling participle that 

1817
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,920
Arya needs to handle later. 
She's like, you know, Dunsen's 

1818
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,200
still alive. 
Everybody else got a, you know, 

1819
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:11,680
everybody else got crossed off 
the list. 

1820
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,720
But there's this one guy that I 
got to go handle. 

1821
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,200
Can't let him slip through the 
cracks. 

1822
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,920
A little bit more prominent, a 
lot more prominent, but a little

1823
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,360
more mysterious is Sir Ellen 
Payne. 

1824
01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:25,920
We already know what he did. 
He beheaded Eddard Stark for Ari

1825
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:27,880
and Sansa ever get to discuss 
Sir Ellen? 

1826
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,720
She'll learn from her sister 
that Sansa has many nightmares 

1827
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,640
of him. 
She has had lots of nightmares 

1828
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,960
of Sir Ellen. 
She, of course, remembers him. 

1829
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,840
She actually saw Sir Ellen cut 
their father's head off, whereas

1830
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,600
Ari's face was blocked by urine.
She didn't actually see the 

1831
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:48,120
killing blow, so her vision of 
it, her memory of it is a lot 

1832
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,240
more distinct and horrible, 
horrible, horrible. 

1833
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,800
She's had memories of like 
marrying Joffrey and Sir Ellen 

1834
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:59,120
being there and just of her, her
of Rob turning into Sir Ellen, 

1835
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,800
if I'm remembering correctly, 
just a variety of nightmares 

1836
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,680
about him. 
So she'd be like, yeah, that 

1837
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,640
guy. 
I would wouldn't mind seeing him

1838
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:10,960
die. 
Now, Jamie has experience with 

1839
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,920
this man. 
She, he thinks at one point, Sir

1840
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,960
Ellen lives for killing. 
He doesn't care about anything 

1841
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:18,760
else. 
His he keeps his sword 

1842
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,200
Immaculate. 
He keeps his steel, you know, 

1843
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,920
well polished and all that. 
But his room is disgusting. 

1844
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,400
It's like nothing about him. 
He doesn't seem to care about 

1845
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,040
anything else. 
It's like anything that that's 

1846
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:31,960
part of the killing and 
fulfilling the duties of his 

1847
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:33,440
office, which is the King's 
justice. 

1848
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:37,520
It's he doesn't care. 
It's only that which is a very 

1849
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,680
interesting contrast to what 
Arya has been taught about 

1850
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,520
killing. 
It's a very it, it's a very much

1851
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,200
at odds with the, the, the 
thinking of the faceless men 

1852
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,520
and, and you know, their 
attitude towards the gift of 

1853
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,680
death and how you don't choose 
who does it, you don't have to 

1854
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,440
take pleasure in it, etcetera. 
This is another one that I kind 

1855
01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:54,000
of doubt Arya will have anything
to do with. 

1856
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:57,800
I mean, it's hard to imagine 
their paths crossing again at 

1857
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:02,360
least soon, you know, I'll get 
to exactly where I think Arya 

1858
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,880
will be and why she might not be
in the Riverlands a little bit 

1859
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,320
later. 
But he's in the Riverlands with 

1860
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,160
Jamie, right? 
And Jamie just went off and got 

1861
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,360
himself captured by the BWB. 
Ilian was not captured with 

1862
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,240
Jamie, He was captured by 
himself. 

1863
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,000
So presumably, I don't know 
what's going to happen with 

1864
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,280
Jamie's army. 
They're like, well, what do we 

1865
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,760
do without our commander? 
Should we are we can we go back 

1866
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,000
to King's Landing to face Cersei
without Jamie? 

1867
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,080
Well, will she just like have us
all killed? 

1868
01:37:27,480 --> 01:37:29,920
Well, she won't kill the whole 
army, but the commanders of the 

1869
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,240
army would be wary of returning 
without Jamie. 

1870
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:37,160
Although if Cersei at this point
is in the clutches of the faith,

1871
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,680
so maybe they figure this is, 
this is, this is the right time 

1872
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,240
to, to come back without Jamie 
because Cersei's unable to do 

1873
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,040
anything to us. 
But either way, Illin will be in

1874
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:46,960
that group. 
Maybe he'll get ambushed in the 

1875
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,600
Riverlands and something to just
get killed by the BWB. 

1876
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,280
But I, I think the BWB is a 
little more distracted by what 

1877
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:56,840
they're, what they're doing with
Jamie and perhaps the rescue of 

1878
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:00,600
Jane Westerling, you know, if 
not Ed Muir. 

1879
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,240
So they've got their sights 
maybe set on a different 

1880
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,600
Lannister group and and they 
don't care about Ill and Payne. 

1881
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,240
He's not a high value target for
anyone. 

1882
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:10,280
He's just a killer. 
Arya wants him dead. 

1883
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,360
But like in terms of politics, 
he doesn't matter really. 

1884
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,720
He's not like he doesn't control
a house, he's not like leading 

1885
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,360
men and he's not leading 
soldiers. 

1886
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:23,320
He's not even a soldier. 
Cersei, of course, a huge topic 

1887
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:27,760
in herself, less of one for 
Arya, but still very important. 

1888
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,320
Obviously she's on the list. 
Oddly, she's on the list for 

1889
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:36,040
reasons that maybe she doesn't 
deserve to be because the main 

1890
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:40,800
reason she's on the list is for 
the death of her father, but 

1891
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,440
Cersei didn't want that. 
Cersei tried to stop Joffrey 

1892
01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:48,280
from killing Ned, but Cersei's 
also guilty in the sense of 

1893
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,600
Micah and Lady. 
She pushed that more than 

1894
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:55,680
anyone, so there's that too. 
Now, this one there's not much 

1895
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,600
theorizing here to discuss 
because my head cannon is Cersei

1896
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,840
is going to die by Jamie's hand.
I don't think Ari's going to 

1897
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,760
have a darn thing to do it. 
They won't even be related, 

1898
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:07,600
won't even be barely connected. 
So I think Cersei is just a 

1899
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,560
character that Arya wants to 
kill but won't. 

1900
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,360
I'm open to other ideas, but 
it's just so it's foreshadowed, 

1901
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,920
You know, she's not she's not 
the the younger, more beautiful 

1902
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,400
queen that's going to cast her 
down or her little brother. 

1903
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:26,240
You know, it doesn't make sense.
You know, those aren't the 

1904
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:27,760
Valancar. 
She's not the Valancar. 

1905
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,960
Yeah. 
So I don't think that's, I don't

1906
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:30,960
think we need to get too deep 
with that. 

1907
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,760
However, one of Cersei's 
Kingsguard, and I call her 

1908
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:37,040
Cersei's Kingsguard because 
Marin Trant pretty much does 

1909
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,680
whatever Cersei wants. 
He killed Sirio Pharrell 

1910
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,480
allegedly. 
And certainly that's what Aria 

1911
01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:46,360
blames her for, blames him for. 
And he was last seen guarding 

1912
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,400
the hands apartments the the 
night virus murdered Paisel and 

1913
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,240
Kevin. 
Marin Trant was standing guard 

1914
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,120
effectively. 
Clearly, he's very good at his 

1915
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,240
job. 
He's another candidate for just 

1916
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:00,200
someone that will die before Ari
can get to him. 

1917
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,840
Obviously, she killed him 
directly in the show, but that 

1918
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:06,560
was the role Raph the Sweetling 
played in the Mercy that was 

1919
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:07,720
those were the equivalents 
there. 

1920
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:10,560
Now, this is another example. 
This is now hear me, let me say 

1921
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:14,600
why I have a lot of doubts that 
she'll be at King's Landing or 

1922
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:18,280
even in the South anytime soon. 
Contrary to what the show LED us

1923
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:22,040
to believe or or indicated, me 
and Nina tend to agree. 

1924
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:27,400
That Aria's most likely path 
back back to Westeros is via 

1925
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:31,960
Justin Massey and Jane Poole, 
which would not involve going 

1926
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,600
through the South. 
If Jane Poole and if Justin 

1927
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,440
Massey gets his, what's he want?
What he wants, or it's time, 

1928
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:39,720
let's say it's time for Massey 
to go back to the North. 

1929
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:41,560
He's not going to go to King's 
Landing. 

1930
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:42,600
He's not going to go to the 
South. 

1931
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,200
He's going to go back to the 
north where the campaign is 

1932
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:49,000
active, where he's trying to get
in Stannis's good graces to earn

1933
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,000
himself a castle. 
He wants to marry Asha, so he's 

1934
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,840
why would he go to the South? 
And if Arya goes with them, then

1935
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,880
she's going to show back up in 
the north, either through White 

1936
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:03,480
Harbor or through E watch. 
So she won't be anywhere near 

1937
01:41:03,480 --> 01:41:09,320
the vicinity of Marin Trant or 
Searcy or Ellen paint or Dunson,

1938
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:12,880
you know, so these or Gregor or 
even or or even Sandor, although

1939
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,200
there's a chance Sandor comes N,
but he's not even on the list. 

1940
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,920
So Sandor doesn't even matter in
that regard. 

1941
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,240
Now, on the other hand, let's 
look at the long term, the 

1942
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:23,600
longer term. 
Why should we assume that all 

1943
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,080
those people will be dead by the
time things in the North are 

1944
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:27,160
resolved? 
Let's say we go all the way 

1945
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,440
through the Windsor winter. 
Others are defeated, but that's 

1946
01:41:30,440 --> 01:41:31,600
not going to be the end of the 
series. 

1947
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,200
There's there's going to be 
humanity still has things to do 

1948
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:38,120
after the others are defeated. 
Maybe Ari gets back to her list.

1949
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,560
She's like, you know what? 
Marin Trent's still alive. 

1950
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,160
That Dunson's still alive. 
Then she can go South, 

1951
01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:46,040
potentially. 
Maybe it's part of her epilogue.

1952
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,560
Yeah. 
Maybe she sails W to to as an 

1953
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,200
explorer, but before that, maybe
she's like, well, I got some 

1954
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:54,880
unfinished business before I 
sail. 

1955
01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:00,640
I gotta get enough supplies, get
some maps and kill Dunson and 

1956
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,520
Sir Marin Trent. 
You know, this could be a reason

1957
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,760
this this could be the reason 
for her to go South to finish 

1958
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,160
her list. 
After the threat in the north is

1959
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:10,800
dealt with, after the Starks 
have settled their business and 

1960
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:15,760
re established themselves and 
they're they're back in charge. 

1961
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:19,160
You know Winterfell is restored.
Even if that does happen, Marin 

1962
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:22,760
Trant is not unlikely to simply 
die before that. 

1963
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,680
I mean, he's a Kingsguard. 
The regime will probably change 

1964
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:30,760
more than once, and King's 
Landing quite likely. 

1965
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:34,560
Searcy will lose power, Aegon 
will gain power, then Aegon will

1966
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,920
lose power, and Daenerys will 
gain power. 

1967
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:40,960
And then maybe after Daenerys, 
someone else like Bran or 

1968
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,160
someone else entirely. 
I don't know, but that's a lot 

1969
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,360
of potential regime changes for 
one Kingsguard to survive. 

1970
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,680
Maybe he gets sent N to the wall
and then he's then he's in 

1971
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,760
Aria's clutches or at least 
nearby somewhat if there's even 

1972
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:58,320
a wall to send people to though.
So it gets real tricky to 

1973
01:42:59,480 --> 01:43:02,840
theorize about some of these 
names, but it's still part of 

1974
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,960
the fun, even if we can't really
pin it down. 

1975
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,040
So real quick, let's go through 
Aria's other kills and then 

1976
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,280
we'll talk about the House of 
Black and White and how some of 

1977
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,160
these things are going to maybe 
come to a head. 

1978
01:43:13,480 --> 01:43:17,080
So the her first kill was that 
Red Keep stable boy that tried 

1979
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,280
to grab her and talked about how
he would get rewarded by the 

1980
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,480
queen for turning her in. 
And Ari just did what she had to

1981
01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:28,320
do. 
You know, one of Amory's men, as

1982
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:32,000
we said, she killed one of them 
for sure during the night Joran 

1983
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,120
was killed, but she may have 
killed more. 

1984
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:37,200
I don't think she did given the 
description, but it's possible. 

1985
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:40,680
She obviously killed that Bolton
guard when escaping Harrenhal. 

1986
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,680
Now do these count as not 
choosing who we kill? 

1987
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,360
Because that's the many faced 
God, the the servants of the 

1988
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,160
many faced God don't choose who 
they kill. 

1989
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,000
Now these are people that she 
didn't aim at killing. 

1990
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:54,880
They were just necessary, 
necessary deaths for the 

1991
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,000
circumstance she was in. 
She didn't say, hey, I'm I must 

1992
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:58,520
kill this man. 
She's like, no, I need to kill 

1993
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:03,480
this man to do what needs doing.
She finished off the Sarsfield 

1994
01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:06,400
Squire at the end of the 
crossroads with Needle. 

1995
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:12,080
She killed Darian the singer 
slash deserter for violating the

1996
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,280
Night's Watch code for deserting
the Night's Watch. 

1997
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,120
She was punished for that. 
It wasn't much of A punishment 

1998
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:18,320
though. 
And I think this is an 

1999
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:22,480
interesting aspect to Arya. 
Pushing boundaries with the 

2000
01:44:22,480 --> 01:44:24,440
Faceless Men is like, well, what
are they going to do to her? 

2001
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,600
She's not afraid of death. 
She's afraid of being kicked out

2002
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:33,840
of their order, but she's less 
and less afraid of that the more

2003
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:35,840
she learns from them. 
The more she learns from them, 

2004
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:42,080
the less they have to teach her.
And the the more she feels like 

2005
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:46,160
she can go out and do things on 
her own, the next person she 

2006
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:51,080
kills is the insurance salesman,
which was an order that's 

2007
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:52,720
certainly not someone on her 
list. 

2008
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,480
It was someone that they told 
her to kill and she did it. 

2009
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,840
It was she was successful with 
her first hit, her first 

2010
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:02,040
sanctioned hit. 
Then of course, you know, she's 

2011
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:05,600
been a part of kills while in 
her wolf dreams, which isn't, 

2012
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,800
you know, that's not her, she's 
not guiding Nymeria. 

2013
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,760
Those aren't her kills. 
But she experiences it. 

2014
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:16,320
She experiences the sensation, 
the senses that, you know, her 

2015
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:20,320
nose and her mouth and the taste
of blood through her wolf. 

2016
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:24,800
So it's, it's another way that 
she relates to and connects with

2017
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:30,600
the process of death and killing
is through her wolf dreams, the 

2018
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,320
prayer and the many face God. 
So, yeah, how do these things 

2019
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:34,960
collide? 
Because they do collide. 

2020
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,520
Let's start off with a 
conversation, and here's where 

2021
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:42,040
it gets brought up directly in A
Feast for Crows quote. 

2022
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:46,360
Each night before sleep she 
murmured her prayer into her 

2023
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,080
pillow. 
Sir Gregor, it went. 

2024
01:45:49,440 --> 01:45:55,160
Dunson Wrath, The sweetening Sir
Ellen, Sir Marin, Queen Cersei. 

2025
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,640
She would have whispered the 
names of the phrase of the 

2026
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,880
Crossing, too, if she had known 
them. 

2027
01:46:01,480 --> 01:46:05,040
One day I'll know, she told 
herself, and then I'll kill them

2028
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,360
all. 
No whisper was too faint to be 

2029
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:10,400
heard in the House of black and 
white. 

2030
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,720
Child. 
Said the kindly man one day. 

2031
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,040
What are those names you whisper
of at night? 

2032
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,400
I don't whisper any names, she 
said. 

2033
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,360
You lie. 
He said. 

2034
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,920
It's so funny that you like, I 
don't say any names. 

2035
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,040
Only a child would say that 
every once in a while. 

2036
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,240
As dark as Ari's story is, 
sometimes it's just pure comedy.

2037
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:34,080
And that's so funny. 
It's like, I don't whisper names

2038
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:39,280
like I heard you, you do it 
every night like you're going to

2039
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,000
tell me. 
And I was like, I don't know, it

2040
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,600
wasn't me. 
But obviously this list is at 

2041
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,240
odds. 
You're they're not supposed to 

2042
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,760
do that. 
They're supposed to not kill 

2043
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,880
people that they want to. 
They're supposed to kill who 

2044
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,560
they're told to kill who the God
decides, right. 

2045
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:59,360
It's it's kind of BS this whole 
many face God stuff, but still 

2046
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:01,240
it's at odds with what they're 
teaching her. 

2047
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,040
Not only is she not giving up on
her list, she's killed someone 

2048
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,240
on it. 
You know, after this, she's 

2049
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:07,920
killed someone on it before it 
and someone after it. 

2050
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:12,520
So yeah, 21 before Bravo, she 
kills RAF and we haven't seen 

2051
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,480
the reaction to that yet. 
So this is coming presumably at 

2052
01:47:15,480 --> 01:47:17,000
her second the Wind's of Winter 
chapter. 

2053
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,240
She knows it's going to be 
serious, but how serious? 

2054
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:20,960
She's already seen how all they 
did the first time. 

2055
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:25,000
The penalty was just we're going
to blind you sooner than we 

2056
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:26,960
would have because they were 
going to blind her anyway. 

2057
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,520
They were going to was like, so 
it's almost like she was in 

2058
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,880
punishment. 
It's almost like in a way they 

2059
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:33,960
they advanced her training 
sooner. 

2060
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:36,800
It's like we're going to push 
you and your curriculum faster 

2061
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,080
for for cheating, for breaking 
the rules. 

2062
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,760
We're going to teach you 
advanced classes sooner. 

2063
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:45,160
Like it's it's almost like she 
was rewarded. 

2064
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,120
So like in her mind, she should 
keep pushing the boundaries. 

2065
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,120
And this is something she does 
right. 

2066
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:55,240
This actually does harken back 
to her earliest chapters, the 

2067
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,720
arguing or facing SEPTA Mordane,
right. 

2068
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:05,000
She as big as she is on justice 
and righteousness, she's got 

2069
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,480
issues with authority. 
Whether it's SEPTA Mordane or 

2070
01:48:08,480 --> 01:48:10,840
her father or mother or the 
House of Black and White. 

2071
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:15,680
She doesn't do what she's told a
lot of the time because she 

2072
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:19,000
values certain things more than 
than that, right? 

2073
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,440
Her sense of justice, her need 
for revenge, to her, that's more

2074
01:48:22,440 --> 01:48:24,480
important than following the 
rules of the House of Black and 

2075
01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:25,680
White. 
It is important to her. 

2076
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:27,560
She follows the rules most of 
the time. 

2077
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,880
She cares. 
She wants to do well, she wants 

2078
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,760
them to promote her and teach 
her more things. 

2079
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:37,680
But it's just not quite as 
important as getting home, as 

2080
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:40,640
being a Stark, as killing the 
people on her list. 

2081
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,400
And nothing seems to change 
that. 

2082
01:48:43,480 --> 01:48:46,600
Nothing seems to trump that. 
She's just, Yep, that's how she 

2083
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,280
is. 
She's again, stubborn above all 

2084
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,200
other things, and she is what 
she is. 

2085
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:54,360
And no one's changing that. 
Remember too, in in Bran's Koma 

2086
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,240
dream in chapter 3 of A Game of 
Thrones, Well, his sorry, Bran 3

2087
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:01,440
of A Game of Thrones, there's 
that line. 

2088
01:49:01,480 --> 01:49:04,600
And he saw Arya watching in 
silence and holding her secrets 

2089
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,560
hard in her heart. 
Yeah, I mean, that's what she 

2090
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:10,440
does a lot. 
She holds her secrets hard in 

2091
01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:14,160
her heart and eventually 
unleashes them when like she 

2092
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,160
kills the Tickler and she's just
all that emotion comes flooding 

2093
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:20,760
out Sir Gold in the village gem.
She's screaming and yelling and 

2094
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,960
stabbing. 
That line might be more 

2095
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,080
foreshadowy than George 
initially intended. 

2096
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:29,400
He intended it to be foreshadowy
for Arya watching in silence and

2097
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:30,960
holding her secrets hard in her 
heart. 

2098
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:34,360
The list is part is one of those
secrets that she refuses to 

2099
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,560
admit to. 
Another one being her skin 

2100
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:43,160
changing skill that she doesn't 
cop to even to herself to a 

2101
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:45,640
certain extent, but certainly 
not to the kindly man or the 

2102
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:47,520
other servants of the many faced
God. 

2103
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:51,880
Now remember again she linked 
the phrase Valar Morghulis, 

2104
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:56,880
which is something Jacquin 
taught her, to her list which 

2105
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:00,840
she thinks they need to die. 
So it makes sense to link all 

2106
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,680
men must die to a list of people
that she thinks need to die. 

2107
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,160
And this is of course at 
Harrenhal that she first does 

2108
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:08,320
this. 
She's practicing with her broom 

2109
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,640
sword. 
She's feeling powerful the more 

2110
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:15,280
she goes along with her 
triumphs, her killings, builds 

2111
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,120
the sense of power, of agency 
within her. 

2112
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:19,560
Jakin was recruiting her all 
along. 

2113
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:24,640
But interesting to think about 
this, compare Jakin's teachings 

2114
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:26,360
to what she's taught at the 
House of Black and White. 

2115
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,080
Jakin wasn't putting 
restrictions on her. 

2116
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:32,640
He was like to bring her in to 
encourage her, to get her 

2117
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:37,280
interested in joining. 
He didn't give her these 

2118
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,480
restrictions about ethics or 
about we don't choose who we 

2119
01:50:39,480 --> 01:50:40,920
kill. 
He didn't bring any of that up 

2120
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:42,680
at the time. 
You know, he's like no kill. 

2121
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,280
You know, I got to give you 3 
deaths for the red God. 

2122
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,000
Oh, it's not me though. 
It's the red God. 

2123
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:51,480
It's like he gives her a taste. 
But the reality is they're not 

2124
01:50:51,480 --> 01:50:52,800
supposed to get to kill who they
want. 

2125
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,120
She's not going to ever get to 
have 3 wishes. 

2126
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,480
That's not a, that's not a real 
situation that would ever happen

2127
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,360
as a faceless man. 
So it was a little, you know, a 

2128
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,400
little tricky, a little 
dishonest by Jockin there. 

2129
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:08,400
So this is how they actually 
view death, which is very 

2130
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:12,400
different than say Jockin, how 
Jockin explains it to versus how

2131
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:16,400
this is Plague Face, one of the 
other servants that talks to her

2132
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,560
and gives her the mission to 
kill the insurance man. 

2133
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:21,640
Death holds no sweetness in this
house. 

2134
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:26,800
We are not warriors, nor 
soldiers, nor swaggering bravos 

2135
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:30,360
puffed up with pride. 
We do not kill to serve some 

2136
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:34,560
Lord, to fatten our purses, to 
stroke our vanity. 

2137
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:39,800
We never give the gift to please
ourselves, nor do we choose the 

2138
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:43,720
ones we kill. 
We are but servants of the God 

2139
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,760
of many faces. 
So yeah, that's definitely at 

2140
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:48,080
odds. 
Jockin was like, which three 

2141
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:50,560
people should I kill? 
And she got to choose. 

2142
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,800
Nor do we choose the ones we 
kill is what Plague Face just 

2143
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:57,640
said here. 
So yeah, they're recruiting. 

2144
01:51:57,640 --> 01:51:59,480
They're a lot open more they're 
they're not telling you the 

2145
01:51:59,480 --> 01:52:01,040
whole story when they're 
recruiting you, clearly. 

2146
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,800
So right after this, though, 
comes one of my favorite 

2147
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:06,600
exchanges. 
It's another comedic moment. 

2148
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:10,960
Little, little, little break 
from the the seriousness of all 

2149
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:14,120
this, the kindly. 
The kindly man follows this up 

2150
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,360
and says, you know, servants 
should be humble. 

2151
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:18,720
Actually, this might still be 
plague based, but it doesn't 

2152
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,520
matter the the phrase. 
The line is you servants should 

2153
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,280
be humble. 
And she says, I can be humbler 

2154
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:28,320
than anyone. 
I can be the most humble there 

2155
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:32,160
is, you know, like I'm that's so
that's really funny. 

2156
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,120
Yes, I'm, I'm she's proud of how
humble she can be. 

2157
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,120
And yeah, so Ari's been 
traumatized repeatedly, but 

2158
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:42,200
she's so hard to intimidate. 
Like she is just trying to 

2159
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:43,760
intimidate. 
Ari just gets her to dig her 

2160
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,960
heels in more deeply and makes 
her just stand up straighter and

2161
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:50,360
and want to fight back even 
more, no matter how bad it gets.

2162
01:52:50,440 --> 01:52:52,280
That just fires her up. 
She's like, no matter. 

2163
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,240
The worse it gets, the more she 
wants to fight back. 

2164
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:58,120
But she also seeks the skills to
protect herself. 

2165
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,440
She doesn't want to feel afraid.
She hates the feeling of fear, 

2166
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,360
which it's like those two things
come together when she has fear,

2167
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,520
she feels hate. 
Hate towards whatever's making 

2168
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,680
her afraid. 
She hates the feeling of fear 

2169
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:12,120
and hates those who inflicted on
her. 

2170
01:53:12,440 --> 01:53:15,240
And she isn't just a mouse that 
takes it. 

2171
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,840
She wants to learn how to stop 
that. 

2172
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:21,720
To find that fear, find the 
source of it and kill it. 

2173
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:25,520
Which is again, not in line with
being a servant of the many 

2174
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,960
faced God. 
And the fact that she can't be 

2175
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:30,760
intimidated is really on display
in the scene too. 

2176
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,680
She again, she ate that worm, 
the skull worm, this plague 

2177
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,640
faced guy. 
His face is horrifying. 

2178
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,000
It's like drippings. 
He's literally dripping blood. 

2179
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,680
It's weeping sores. 
And it means nothing to her. 

2180
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,240
She doesn't care at all. 
And she's again, she's 

2181
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:44,440
challenging these authority 
figures. 

2182
01:53:44,440 --> 01:53:46,440
She's not afraid of them, even 
though these are the most 

2183
01:53:46,440 --> 01:53:48,920
talented killers in the in the 
world, literally. 

2184
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:50,120
And she's just not afraid of 
them. 

2185
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:53,920
She's more afraid of them 
kicking her out than of them, 

2186
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:57,760
like killing her or something. 
So yeah, just confident, 

2187
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,960
understands basically the way 
they act, they operate, and this

2188
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,680
this could really bring things 
to a head later when she 

2189
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:06,840
eventually has a falling out 
with them, which we kind of 

2190
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:09,680
assume is coming. 
Remember that one of her acts of

2191
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:12,600
defiance here, if I get back 
briefly to her resistance to 

2192
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,240
authority, which is a big part 
of her character, I want to use 

2193
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:19,160
Needle as an example again. 
She hid Needle from the Faceless

2194
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:21,160
Men rather than get rid of it, 
something we're all well aware 

2195
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:22,640
of. 
It's one of the most blatant 

2196
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,880
symbols of her refusing to to to
part with her identity. 

2197
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:29,400
She also hid Needle from her 
father though, right? 

2198
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,960
She just didn't like this is 
just on a simpler level. 

2199
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,000
It's just she likes her sword 
and wants to keep it and knows 

2200
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:37,880
that her father would take it 
away from her. 

2201
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,720
But it is an interesting little 
connection to draw there. 

2202
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:44,760
She's there's rules she agrees 
with and rules she doesn't, you 

2203
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,080
know. 
And as much as she she again 

2204
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:49,720
resistance to authority, she's 
the least tame of the wolf. 

2205
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,120
She is a wolf at heart. 
She has the temper of a wolf. 

2206
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:56,680
She has the savagery of a wolf. 
It isn't there all the time, but

2207
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:58,880
it's in her. 
And but as yeah. 

2208
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,080
And she's the hardest to, to, to
tame. 

2209
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:04,360
I think I was, I wanted to think
of a different synonym there. 

2210
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:07,760
But no, I think tame is the 
right word because it's it's it 

2211
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,160
came up last week in our Stark 
Skin Changers episode where 

2212
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:13,000
Varamir said being a warg is 
like a marriage. 

2213
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:14,440
You're not. 
You don't own the wolf and the 

2214
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,040
wolf doesn't own you. 
You're part of it and it's part 

2215
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,440
of you. 
And very much this as well. 

2216
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,880
Arya is part Nymeria. 
Nymeria's part her. 

2217
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:23,960
She's. 
And beyond that, she's very much

2218
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,360
Stark. 
She has a lot of her, her father

2219
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,600
and mother and other Starks. 
She's qualities that we 

2220
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:33,120
associate with Starks. 
So this is all very interesting 

2221
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:35,520
next to her dedication to a 
sense of justice. 

2222
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:40,880
It's it's it's it is very human.
This inequality. 

2223
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:42,560
These two things don't line up 
very well. 

2224
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:47,480
Like how do you have such a 
sense of justice, but you also 

2225
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:49,920
have a resistance to authority 
because those two things can't 

2226
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,920
exist without each other. 
You can't have justice without 

2227
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:57,280
authority because you can't 
punish bad guys or law Breakers 

2228
01:55:57,880 --> 01:55:59,840
if they won't accept their 
sentences. 

2229
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:03,040
You have to be stronger than the
people who are having justice 

2230
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:08,040
done to them because otherwise 
they won't adhere to the 

2231
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,000
sentences, right? 
They just use like, no, OK, I'm 

2232
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:13,400
guilty. 
Well, make me do jail time. 

2233
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,840
You know, if, if the authorities
aren't strong enough, then the 

2234
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:17,360
justices. 
It doesn't exist. 

2235
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:22,360
But her identity, her prayer, 
again, it's so stubborn. 

2236
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:26,560
She will not release it. 
She just can't release it. 

2237
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:31,520
Quote you lie. 
I can see the truth in your 

2238
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:35,000
eyes. 
You have the eyes of a wolf and 

2239
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:38,240
a taste for blood. 
Sir Gregor, she could not help 

2240
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,920
but think. 
Dunson, Wrath, The Sweetling, 

2241
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,920
Sir Illin, Sir Marin, Queen 
Cersei. 

2242
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:47,880
If she spoke, she would need to 
lie, and he would know. 

2243
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,200
She kept silent. 
How telling is that? 

2244
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:54,640
He accuses her of you have the 
eyes of a wolf and a taste for 

2245
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:56,160
blood. 
And the list pops up in her 

2246
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:57,520
mind. 
She's like, Yep, you're right. 

2247
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,800
It's like if he, if I speak at 
all, he'll tell. 

2248
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:03,720
He'll be able to know I'm lying.
She knows how the lion game 

2249
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:06,120
works. 
The best way to to to win the 

2250
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:08,120
lion game is to not play 
sometimes. 

2251
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,240
Well, she can't, she can't win. 
So she just doesn't play. 

2252
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:13,160
She's like, well, I can't lose. 
I can't win, but I won't lose by

2253
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:16,320
saying nothing. 
So RAF is on the list because 

2254
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,600
this is obviously before she 
kills RAF, but she kills him, 

2255
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,160
you know, shortly after this 
cause presumably Mercy is the 

2256
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:25,360
1st chapter of the wins a winner
that Arya has I and this is her 

2257
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:26,760
last chapter of Dance with 
Dragons. 

2258
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:31,640
So we talked about how her how 
needle and her skin changing 

2259
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:35,480
ability is her anchor, part of 
her anchor to her Stark 

2260
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,840
identity. 
This is too because it's 

2261
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,880
personal. 
The names on her list are mostly

2262
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,760
about things done to her or her 
family. 

2263
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:44,720
They were done to Arya, Arya's 
family. 

2264
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:46,840
They weren't done to no one's 
family. 

2265
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,160
If she wasn't Arya, the list 
wouldn't matter to her anymore 

2266
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:52,320
because these were things that 
happened to somebody else. 

2267
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:54,080
She's got nothing to do with any
of that. 

2268
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:56,920
But of course not. 
She remembers all of it. 

2269
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:59,720
She remembers it well. 
It pops up even when she's being

2270
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:03,920
told that she's not adhering 
because she's not adhering. 

2271
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:05,480
She's not no one. 
It's not working. 

2272
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:08,560
She is not losing her identity. 
She's if anything, she's 

2273
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:14,520
becoming more Arya and Mercy 
chapter proves that the second 

2274
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:18,400
she was exposed to her history, 
to her former self, that's what 

2275
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,000
she did. 
She jumped into it gleefully and

2276
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:24,320
without hesitation. 
But here's how she reflects on 

2277
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,280
death. 
Here's a really interesting 

2278
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:31,440
moment. 
This is the last time she says 

2279
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:34,320
the list or thinks about death. 
This is her last Dance with 

2280
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,600
Dragons chapter 'cause remember,
she doesn't actually repeat the 

2281
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:41,400
list in the Mercy chapter quote.
Sleep did not come easily that 

2282
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:44,080
night. 
Tangled in her blankets, she 

2283
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:47,360
twisted this way and that in the
cold, dark room. 

2284
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:51,520
But whichever way she turned, 
she saw the faces. 

2285
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:55,200
They have no eyes, but they can 
see me. 

2286
01:58:55,640 --> 01:59:00,240
She saw her father's face. 
Upon the wall beside him hung 

2287
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:05,040
her lady mother, and below them 
her three brothers, all in a 

2288
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:08,200
row. 
No, that was some other girl. 

2289
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:13,800
I am no one, and my only 
brothers wear robes of black and

2290
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:16,920
white. 
Yet there was the black singer 

2291
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:21,080
there, the stable boy she'd 
killed with Needle, there the 

2292
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:24,800
pimply Squire from the 
Crossroads Inn, and over there 

2293
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,640
the guard whose throat she'd 
slashed to get them out of 

2294
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:30,840
Harrenhal. 
The tickler hung on the wall as 

2295
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:35,920
well, the black holes that were 
his eyes swimming with malice. 

2296
01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:39,840
The sight of him brought back 
the feel of the dagger in her 

2297
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:44,920
hand as she had plunged it into 
his back again and again and 

2298
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:47,640
again. 
Some context is important here. 

2299
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:49,640
Some of y'all may have figured 
this out already, but this is, 

2300
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,880
of course, right after she's 
seen the room with all the faces

2301
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:55,560
in it. 
All the thousands of skinned 

2302
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,320
faces that the Faceless Men have
in their secret chamber below. 

2303
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:03,840
The one that people think the 
Boltons have, Which, well, maybe

2304
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:08,400
they have one too, but. 
The this we've now seen and can 

2305
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:11,680
confirm exists and it's pretty 
scary. 

2306
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:14,960
So you can see even Ari is a 
little intimidated by this. 

2307
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:18,400
She's imagining the people she 
killed as faces on those 

2308
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:22,440
platforms, on those pillars. 
And by the way, y'all, that room

2309
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:25,120
is scarier than just all the 
faces. 

2310
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:29,240
I mean, it's A at one point 
there's a tunnel with the 

2311
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:30,840
columns that are holding the 
tunnel up. 

2312
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:33,760
Are skulls like just actual 
skulls? 

2313
02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:37,320
Like it's super dark. 
It's a meant, I think, to 

2314
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:40,480
parallel Bran's cave that he's 
in, which is also filled with 

2315
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:42,560
skulls. 
But the skulls aren't like part 

2316
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:44,160
of the construction. 
They're just, they're just lying

2317
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:47,960
around here and there the way 
nature would leave things. 

2318
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:51,840
So it's like the the 
supernatural elements of death 

2319
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:54,840
in both of them, but one is 
building on those elements and 

2320
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:57,040
the other is existing among 
those elements. 

2321
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:04,160
Pretty cool, pretty creepy, and 
a lot we could say about that. 

2322
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:08,080
So this is, of course, a mix of 
emotions. 

2323
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:10,440
Ari is there's a little bit of 
fear, there's some side effect 

2324
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:12,360
of the magic, there's some 
guilt. 

2325
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:14,880
She's put the other face on 
already. 

2326
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:17,160
She's already got the ugly 
girl's face on. 

2327
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:19,840
So there's also like someone 
else's memories are in there and

2328
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:21,240
that's messing with her a bit 
too. 

2329
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:23,760
So there's definitely magic 
happening and some, maybe some 

2330
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,800
side effects are going on. 
She goes up to kill the 

2331
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:28,640
insurance salesman with this new
disguise shortly after this, but

2332
02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:31,120
she recites the prayer that one 
last time before heading out. 

2333
02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:35,640
So she says this and then 
recites the prayer pretty much 

2334
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:37,680
just as we had it a minute ago 
that a Shaya read. 

2335
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:41,160
And then that's the end of the 
book, or at least her part of 

2336
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:42,360
it. 
And then, of course, we have 

2337
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:45,360
Mercy. 
She's still very much in the 

2338
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:47,280
midst of it. 
She's still dealing with the 

2339
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:48,760
list. 
She's still being told not to do

2340
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:50,520
it and doesn't really seem to 
have an effect. 

2341
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:52,000
She's like, yeah, no, I'm going 
to still do it. 

2342
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:54,400
And if I see somebody on the 
list, I'm going to kill them, as

2343
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:57,320
we saw with RAF. 
So unless something about her 

2344
02:01:57,320 --> 02:02:00,600
attitude or personality changes,
it's going to keep happening. 

2345
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:03,240
Ari's going to continue to add 
and maybe subtract. 

2346
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:05,480
And well, she's definitely going
to keep subtracting from the 

2347
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:06,720
list. 
Whether she takes the names off 

2348
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:08,320
herself. 
People are going to die who were

2349
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:10,600
on that list, and she probably 
will add to it. 

2350
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:12,480
I mean, she already said she 
would add the names of House 

2351
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,840
Frey if she knew them. 
So in terms of the future of the

2352
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:17,960
list, let's start with that 
House Frey. 

2353
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:22,200
She knows they're responsible. 
Recall this line I owe that 

2354
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:24,360
Shaya quoted earlier. 
She would have whispered the 

2355
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:26,640
names of the phrase the crossing
too, if she had known them. 

2356
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:29,120
One day I'll know, she told 
herself, and then I'll kill them

2357
02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:33,640
all, them all. 
I mean, that is what happened on

2358
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:35,480
the show. 
It seems a bit far fetched to me

2359
02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:38,200
for that to happen in the 
because there's a lot of phrase.

2360
02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:41,360
I mean, damn man, get in line, 
Aria. 

2361
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:43,480
Kind of like Amory Lorch. 
There's a lot of people the 

2362
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:46,240
phrase want the the a lot of 
people want phrase dead. 

2363
02:02:47,480 --> 02:02:49,840
So yeah, since it happened on 
TV, it's tempting to see it 

2364
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:51,800
happening in the books, but I'm 
I'm definitely not jumping to 

2365
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:54,320
that conclusion. 
I'm not even and Nina agrees 

2366
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:56,040
here. 
I'm not even sure if she'll kill

2367
02:02:56,040 --> 02:03:00,600
a single Frey because again, if 
she goes back to the north 

2368
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:04,160
through White Harbor or E watch,
she won't even be in the South. 

2369
02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:06,440
Where are these phrase that she 
will be killing? 

2370
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:08,840
There's a couple of them in the 
north, but those might not even 

2371
02:03:08,840 --> 02:03:10,360
be alive by the time she gets 
there. 

2372
02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:12,000
Stannis may have dealt with them
by then. 

2373
02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:15,400
They're they may be buried on 
the frozen lake by the time she 

2374
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:17,400
gets there. 
Another phrase who knows? 

2375
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,880
I mean, the BWB, the the things 
happening down there, the 

2376
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:23,520
Blackfish is alive. 
Yeah, the phrase may be quite 

2377
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:25,160
dealt with. 
And by the time Ari even has a 

2378
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,760
chance, I So I absolutely 
acknowledge it's a possibility 

2379
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:31,840
that she may deal with some 
phrase, but I'm very skeptical 

2380
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:34,400
she'll kill them all. 
Certainly not by herself. 

2381
02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:37,040
But hey, can't say it's 
impossible either. 

2382
02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:40,240
It could be another example of 
what I was saying earlier, that 

2383
02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:43,640
maybe she will go South later 
after the others are defeated, 

2384
02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:45,160
after the Starks kind of sort 
everything's out. 

2385
02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:48,440
She's like, OK, now I can go get
my revenge on some phrase. 

2386
02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:52,160
She already hated Elmar Frey. 
Remember that hilarious line 

2387
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:55,320
where she's like, we've been or 
he's like, we've been betrayed 

2388
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,760
on my I won't be marrying that 
Princess and she's Ari's like, I

2389
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:01,800
hope your Princess dies. 
Now, though, a lot of you 

2390
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:04,360
already get this joke. 
The Princess in question was 

2391
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:07,560
Aria. 
Aria and Elmar were were 

2392
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:09,720
supposed to marry each other and
neither of them ever knew it. 

2393
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:12,240
But at that point, the phrase 
were still on Rob's side. 

2394
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:14,760
Well, they they actually had 
just gotten the news that they 

2395
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,160
weren't. 
But Aria didn't know that, you 

2396
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:18,600
know, Aria didn't know that 
they'd split. 

2397
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:23,880
So a very dark, dark twist would
be Arya killing the wrong fray 

2398
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:27,000
like Perwin or Olivar, cause 
those are good frays. 

2399
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:29,600
Perwin was a, was one of the 
ones they didn't allow to be at 

2400
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:31,320
the Red Wedding because they 
knew they couldn't trust him. 

2401
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:34,760
Olivar was Rob's Squire. 
Olivar loved Rob. 

2402
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:38,080
So we never know what happened. 
We never, we haven't found out 

2403
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:40,160
what happened to Perwin or 
Olivar if they just disavowed 

2404
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:42,800
their family or if they're just 
going along with it or yeah, we 

2405
02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:45,320
have no follow up on them. 
But it, it could happen one day.

2406
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:47,480
Yeah, that would be a really 
dark thing. 

2407
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:49,680
I've already killed one of them 
just assuming they were 

2408
02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:52,440
involved. 
And in fact, no, they were a 

2409
02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:53,840
good guy. 
So that could that could be some

2410
02:04:54,200 --> 02:05:00,240
a big source of conflict there. 
As for the Bolton's, they are 

2411
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:03,360
just as culpable or maybe 
slightly less culpable for the 

2412
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:06,240
Red Wedding, but she doesn't 
even know which. 

2413
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:07,520
Again, I pointed that out 
earlier. 

2414
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:11,760
It's it's almost funny that Ruth
Bolton decided to betray the 

2415
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:15,560
Starks right in front of Arya 
but she didn't realize it and 

2416
02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:20,680
she still doesn't know so but I 
think she will learn because 

2417
02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:23,280
it's it's become common 
knowledge that the Bolton's were

2418
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:25,880
part of that. 
But I I suspect Ruse and Ramsey 

2419
02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:29,400
will be dead by the time she has
a chance to deal with them. 

2420
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:34,800
That plot is is unfolding now 
and she's still in Braavos so I 

2421
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:38,400
feel like by the time she gets 
back to Westeros they'll 

2422
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:41,400
probably already be dealt with. 
But if not they get added to the

2423
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:43,840
list for sure. 
Or one of them does. 

2424
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:45,720
You know if one of them is dead 
and the other one isn't. 

2425
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:48,840
And again, the same goes for the
Lannisters involved in in the 

2426
02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:50,640
Red Wedding. 
She doesn't fully understand 

2427
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:53,880
their involvement. 
But Cersei's already on her 

2428
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:57,520
list, and Taiwan's already dead.
And what about Jamie? 

2429
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:01,520
Does she think about Jamie? 
Jamie's not on her list. 

2430
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:04,400
We know Cersei's probably going 
to die to Jamie, but is Jamie 

2431
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:07,200
going to die at the same time? 
That's that's less sure. 

2432
02:06:07,600 --> 02:06:11,520
Will Arya be glad when she finds
out Cersei is dead? 

2433
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:14,440
Or will she be wishing that she 
did it herself? 

2434
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:17,880
Will she find it poignant that 
Jamie killed her if that's what 

2435
02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:19,720
happens, if she learns that's 
what happened? 

2436
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:22,720
A lot of possibilities there, 
and the same similar 

2437
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:24,840
possibilities with her killing 
Lannisters that have nothing to 

2438
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:26,400
do with anything, just because 
they're Lannisters. 

2439
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:29,120
But a lot could change in that 
regard. 

2440
02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:32,440
What if Jamie goes north and 
tries to help, you know, fight 

2441
02:06:32,440 --> 02:06:33,440
the others? 
Is she going to? 

2442
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:37,400
Would that be a reason to 
forgive him or to delay it? 

2443
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:39,920
Maybe she'll never care about 
killing Jamie. 

2444
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:43,560
I mean, I think about him a lot 
in this regard because we're in 

2445
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:45,160
Bran's television. 
Let's go back to that. 

2446
02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:51,240
Remember that Bran perceives 
Hound's helm and a man in 

2447
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:55,840
sunburst armor glowing golden 
like the sun, with a huge giant 

2448
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:59,040
with blood, black blood coming 
out of his visor, standing 

2449
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:01,080
behind him. 
That's obviously Sandor, Jamie 

2450
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:06,120
and and Gregor, right? 
She's Ari's already had pretty 

2451
02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:08,840
distinct arcs with both the 
Hound and Sir Gregor, but how? 

2452
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:10,720
What does Jamie have to do with 
her? 

2453
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:14,920
So it seems like Bran's dream 
indicates Arya and Jamie are 

2454
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:19,520
going to have a storyline, but 
that hasn't happened yet. 

2455
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:22,120
So maybe this is maybe this is 
where that will come up. 

2456
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:25,560
Something to do with her list, 
her revenge against Lannisters, 

2457
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:28,400
something to do with the 
Riverlands and how he's handling

2458
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:30,000
that. 
I don't know. 

2459
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:32,120
It's difficult to figure that 
out. 

2460
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:35,120
But given Bran's dream, I think 
something might be happening. 

2461
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:38,000
Maybe this is an abandoned idea 
by George, something he had in 

2462
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:39,640
mind that he said, Nah, 
actually, never mind. 

2463
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:43,240
And it may have more to do with 
Santa than Arya, because in that

2464
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:48,320
dream, it's both Santa and Arya 
that are framed as part of this 

2465
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:51,080
particular image. 
Which brings us to Littlefinger,

2466
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:54,880
because we've discussed how he 
is behind several of the things 

2467
02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:57,920
that she's condemned, like she's
mad about her father being 

2468
02:07:57,920 --> 02:07:59,600
killed, but she doesn't know 
Littlefinger had anything to do 

2469
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:01,680
with that. 
She's probably wouldn't be too 

2470
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:05,640
happy to know about Lysa and how
Littlefinger treated Jane Poole 

2471
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:08,760
and her sister Sansa. 
I mean not Jane Poole's sister, 

2472
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:13,400
her Aria's sister. 
So again, I would say that 

2473
02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:15,760
Littlefinger is Sansa's villain 
to deal with, but there's 

2474
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:18,600
nothing stopping Arya from being
involved in that from Aria 

2475
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:20,560
helping. 
Maybe she he gets put on the 

2476
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:24,440
list just in time before, but I 
think more likely Arya does 

2477
02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:26,600
something about Littlefinger 
helps about it without ever 

2478
02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:28,680
maybe putting him on the list, 
because it's not like he it's 

2479
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:30,360
not like she yearns for his 
death. 

2480
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:34,960
You know, when she finds out 
what he's guilty of, maybe he'll

2481
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,880
get a place on the list, But it 
might just it might not play out

2482
02:08:37,880 --> 02:08:39,720
that way. 
It might just be, hey, I'm going

2483
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:42,280
to kill this guy. 
We're going to do this. 

2484
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:45,880
My favorite idea of one of her 
murders that's kind of tinfoil Y

2485
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:48,600
is Varys. 
I've been on this train for a 

2486
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:51,200
while. 
The the Arya kills virus train 

2487
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:54,720
and it's it it Harkins back to 
her overhearing virus and 

2488
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,240
Illyria down in the tunnels. 
A lot of those elements have 

2489
02:08:57,240 --> 02:09:00,760
come back around. 
She's learned how to navigate in

2490
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:05,160
darkness both through not being 
able to see, both through being 

2491
02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:09,040
trained as a blind person, and 
by using cats to skin change 

2492
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:12,680
into, which is what drew her 
into that tunnel beneath the Red

2493
02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:14,920
Keep in the 1st place chasing 
the cat. 

2494
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:18,920
If she were able to return to 
those tunnels, she would be able

2495
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:22,200
to navigate them extremely well 
given everything she's learned. 

2496
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:27,240
She's also outdone virus in a 
major way, which is that he's a 

2497
02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:29,040
mummer. 
He's an expert mummer and now 

2498
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:32,000
she has that. 
But she's better than he is 

2499
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:35,080
because of these other factors, 
because of the magic, because of

2500
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:37,520
the the skin changing and 
because of the faceless man 

2501
02:09:37,520 --> 02:09:39,240
training. 
He can't match that. 

2502
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:45,160
So she's mastering his game, not
the political intrigue, of 

2503
02:09:45,160 --> 02:09:48,880
course, but this, the stuff that
he does in the tunnels and the 

2504
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:53,280
secrets in the doors and the, 
all the sneaking around and the 

2505
02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:55,360
disguises. 
She's just better than him and 

2506
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:59,400
all these things. 
And given how she detected him, 

2507
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:01,760
how she encountered him very 
early on in the story and 

2508
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:04,520
overheard what he was saying, 
wasn't able to process it, But 

2509
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:09,080
the things he's doing to the 
little birds, he's got child 

2510
02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:12,440
slaves. 
What an awful thing. 

2511
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:16,480
If that ever comes out, if Arya 
learns of that, oh man, top of 

2512
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:18,960
the list. 
Or at least she'll want to get 

2513
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:20,680
him. 
That's a horrible thing, right? 

2514
02:10:21,560 --> 02:10:24,360
So it's very possible Kyburn in 
the in the same light. 

2515
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:26,760
Well, since Kyburn is the 
current master workers, maybe, 

2516
02:10:27,320 --> 02:10:29,960
maybe he needs to be put down. 
I kind of feel like that's going

2517
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:32,240
to go a different direction. 
So it won't be Arya, but hey, 

2518
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:35,240
that's it's another possibility.
The man responsible for bringing

2519
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:36,760
the mountain back. 
That would be a reason for her 

2520
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:39,160
to want him dead. 
She wants the mountain dead for 

2521
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:42,480
all the things he did. 
He resurrected that guy and then

2522
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:45,400
in the mountain killed more 
people continued to be evil. 

2523
02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:49,040
Like it's a good reason to kill 
Kyburn, among other things. 

2524
02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:51,320
Kyburn, he worked for the Bloody
Mummers. 

2525
02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:52,720
I mean, that's Vargo hoax 
people. 

2526
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:57,840
He was he was pretty bad. 
So yeah, I can see why Arya 

2527
02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:01,600
might put him on the list. 
How might Arya interact with 

2528
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:05,480
Aegon the 6th regime? 
Possibly not at all. 

2529
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:08,160
I mean potentially Virus. 
I just pointed Virus out. 

2530
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:11,640
But he's one potential character
that could be involved. 

2531
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:13,960
I wonder maybe Illyria, Could 
she kill Illyria? 

2532
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:16,880
That would be kind of weird, but
not too weird. 

2533
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:21,080
Some other things would have to 
happen before that, but it's 

2534
02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:23,760
possible, right? 
I mean, I think mostly Aegon the

2535
02:11:23,760 --> 02:11:26,000
6th regime, that plot line will 
play out while she's in the 

2536
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:27,960
North and they won't have a 
whole lot to do with each other.

2537
02:11:28,160 --> 02:11:31,280
But you can't be too sure about 
these things. 

2538
02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:35,960
What about John becoming king in
the North? 

2539
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:41,120
If that happens, and Aria's in 
the North at the time of that, 

2540
02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:46,120
during during that, or when it's
begins during any of that, 

2541
02:11:46,120 --> 02:11:50,880
really, will Aria go after 
John's political enemies? 

2542
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:53,160
That's an interesting thing she 
could do for him, for her 

2543
02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:55,760
family, is people don't want 
John to be in charge. 

2544
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:57,640
They think he's a bastard. 
They don't think he deserves to 

2545
02:11:57,640 --> 02:12:01,400
be King in the North. 
Would she be one of his? 

2546
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:03,480
I don't want to say his 
assassins. 

2547
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:06,640
John wouldn't really condone 
that, but that doesn't mean that

2548
02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:10,160
she won't do it. 
So what about John's murderers 

2549
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:12,080
among the Night's Watch? 
That's probably something that 

2550
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:14,440
gets handled internally, but 
that's yet another thing that 

2551
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:17,440
Arya could have thoughts on, 
even if she doesn't take action.

2552
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:22,880
Could Arya her return to the 
list after how Stark is at peace

2553
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:24,000
again? 
That's something I've touched on

2554
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:27,320
a few times in this episode, and
it's one of my closing thoughts.

2555
02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:28,800
I want to reference that one 
more time. 

2556
02:12:29,720 --> 02:12:31,840
Will she give it up, though, as 
a relic of her youth? 

2557
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:34,080
That's another possibility. 
And she gets a little older. 

2558
02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:38,760
She realizes this is not ideal 
for her, that revenge isn't what

2559
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:41,240
she wants to be all about. 
I mean, she's had so many shifts

2560
02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:43,520
of identity, she's very used to 
that. 

2561
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:45,760
It could happen again. 
Something that changes her 

2562
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:47,200
perspective on death and 
killing. 

2563
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:50,040
And maybe, maybe she goes 
through all this. 

2564
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,240
She comes out the other side and
is like, well, maybe I don't 

2565
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:55,760
want to be a killer anymore. 
Another group that she's got a 

2566
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:57,400
history with is the Brother 
Without Banners. 

2567
02:12:57,400 --> 02:12:59,520
I don't think she has too much 
ill will towards them. 

2568
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:01,560
She didn't love being captured 
by them, she didn't love being 

2569
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:04,240
held by them, but I don't think 
she looks on them as villains or

2570
02:13:04,240 --> 02:13:05,680
murderers. 
Even though she's unhappy with 

2571
02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:09,880
how the Sandor Clegane trial by 
combat played out, I don't think

2572
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:12,880
she's going to be blame Barrick 
Dondarian for that. 

2573
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,000
I mean, she can't. 
He's dead and she he passed his 

2574
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:17,240
life force on to Catlin. 
Which by the way, that could be 

2575
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:18,840
a strange thing if she ever 
finds that out. 

2576
02:13:18,840 --> 02:13:21,760
Like you have my my mom's 
walking around as an undead 

2577
02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:24,800
person because of Barrick. 
OK. 

2578
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:26,720
Like, how is she going to 
process that? 

2579
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:29,240
Will she ever meet any of the 
BWB again? 

2580
02:13:29,240 --> 02:13:34,000
Will she ever meet Soros, for 
example, who is still with him? 

2581
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:36,400
You know, if meeting her mother 
again, that's a whole other 

2582
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:37,920
thing. 
I mean, wow, I don't know. 

2583
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,480
I would no idea how that could 
go well. 

2584
02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:43,600
What about like Tom O Sevens and
and like he's he's still 

2585
02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:44,760
fighting the phrase in the 
Lannisters. 

2586
02:13:44,760 --> 02:13:46,400
He's still in the Riverlands 
dealing with them. 

2587
02:13:46,400 --> 02:13:49,800
He's still working against them.
She'd like that Angai and Edrick

2588
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:50,960
Dane. 
She knows them. 

2589
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:53,120
They aren't part of the BWB 
anymore. 

2590
02:13:53,120 --> 02:13:55,120
They left. 
What if she encounters them at 

2591
02:13:55,120 --> 02:13:56,360
some point? 
That'd be interesting. 

2592
02:13:56,360 --> 02:13:57,920
They they know each other. 
What would they have to say to 

2593
02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:01,520
each other after all this time? 
Ned Dane, you know the guy with 

2594
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:04,360
the kid with her father's name. 
She kind of liked him and he 

2595
02:14:04,360 --> 02:14:06,200
kind of liked her. 
I don't mean like they had a 

2596
02:14:06,200 --> 02:14:07,680
crush on each other, although 
maybe they did. 

2597
02:14:07,680 --> 02:14:09,000
I don't think that's the way it 
was framed. 

2598
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:12,040
But they got along, you know, 
they, they, they had their 

2599
02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:15,360
little meeting and seemed to 
enjoy each other's company 

2600
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:17,680
basically, you know, he, they 
seemed to respect each other at 

2601
02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:19,680
least as much as children can 
young people like that. 

2602
02:14:20,120 --> 02:14:23,280
So, yeah. 
And as our final thought about 

2603
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:26,040
Lady Stoneheart, how does that 
impact her notion of death? 

2604
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:28,880
Does this change her, her 
concept of death even more? 

2605
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:34,720
Like is it truly the gift of 
mercy if this is a potential 

2606
02:14:35,320 --> 02:14:37,080
results? 
It's like it's not final. 

2607
02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:41,680
Death isn't the end. 
If you come back as something 

2608
02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:44,360
lesser, but still as part of 
what you were. 

2609
02:14:44,720 --> 02:14:46,600
What a strange thing to have to 
process. 

2610
02:14:46,600 --> 02:14:47,640
What a strange thing to think 
about. 

2611
02:14:47,640 --> 02:14:49,440
It's going to be a lot of 
characters minds when you have 

2612
02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:53,640
the others resurrecting people 
and then Melisandre resurrecting

2613
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:57,320
people and Thoros resurrecting 
people, her mother dead then 

2614
02:14:57,320 --> 02:14:59,200
alive, Gregor Clegane walking 
around. 

2615
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:01,920
You have like all these 
different forms of resurrection.

2616
02:15:02,280 --> 02:15:06,200
And so if even death loses its 
power, the the relorist priests 

2617
02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:10,960
in Volantis are all yeah, the 
Endless summer will come and 

2618
02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:14,840
even death will be defeated like
no one will die. 

2619
02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:21,560
I mean all these things are 
really interesting consider in 

2620
02:15:21,560 --> 02:15:25,280
terms of the the large scale 
arcs playing out and how Arya 

2621
02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:28,400
will fit into these is really 
unique. 

2622
02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:31,760
I think her place amongst all 
this is is unlike anyone else's 

2623
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:35,000
because she straddles a lot of 
these plot lines in ways that 

2624
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:37,640
nobody else does. 
No one's, no one is connected to

2625
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:40,000
the House of black and white 
other than her really amongst 

2626
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:43,560
major characters. 
And no one is has this intimate 

2627
02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:47,000
relationship with death like 
quite like she does. 

2628
02:15:47,040 --> 02:15:48,880
It's it's, it's perhaps the most
unique. 

2629
02:15:49,320 --> 02:15:55,000
Our trivia question was how many
on the list has Arya personally 

2630
02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:56,880
killed? 
Just two. 

2631
02:15:57,240 --> 02:15:59,600
She's killed eight people. 
Two of them were on her list. 

2632
02:15:59,720 --> 02:16:02,200
Wrath the Tickler. 
Wrath, the Sweetling and the 

2633
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:06,000
Tickler. 
I would guess she's not done. 

2634
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:07,720
I don't. 
Certainly she won't cross them 

2635
02:16:07,720 --> 02:16:10,360
all off herself, but more to 
come. 

2636
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:14,480
Curious to hear from you all on 
which names you think she'll 

2637
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:16,560
cross off personally and which 
ones will get crossed off by 

2638
02:16:16,560 --> 02:16:18,160
someone else. 
Like, I think Cersei is an easy 

2639
02:16:18,160 --> 02:16:21,280
guess that won't be her, but 
some of the other ones a little 

2640
02:16:21,280 --> 02:16:24,360
trickier, like Dunsen. 
So. 

2641
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:26,040
And then Sir Ellen. 
Yeah. 

2642
02:16:26,200 --> 02:16:28,600
So I want to hear from you all 
on which names you think are the

2643
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:31,120
most likely. 
Would be a good way to to weigh 

2644
02:16:31,120 --> 02:16:33,920
in. 
And we'll, we'll maybe discuss 

2645
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:36,200
that at a later date. 
If you all have any theories, 

2646
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:38,600
we'll do a mailbag episode at 
some point in the near future 

2647
02:16:38,600 --> 02:16:41,559
and then come back and, and take
your comments on past episodes. 

2648
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:44,080
It's something we do it from 
time to time, but in the 

2649
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:46,280
meantime, that does it for 
today. 

2650
02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:49,320
Certainly check out our skin 
changers of how Stark episode if

2651
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:52,840
you haven't already, and our 
Valar Araritas chapters on Aria.

2652
02:16:52,840 --> 02:16:54,959
You can listen to just the Aria 
chapters. 

2653
02:16:54,959 --> 02:16:58,280
If you're a patron, we or a 
Spotify subscriber. 

2654
02:16:58,639 --> 02:17:01,360
We take our Valaritas episodes 
and edit them so that you can 

2655
02:17:01,360 --> 02:17:04,520
listen to just one POV and not 
all the Povs are done. 

2656
02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:06,719
We haven't edited them all yet, 
but Aria is one of the ones that

2657
02:17:06,719 --> 02:17:08,799
is done if I remember. 
They're all higher quality. 

2658
02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:11,639
And they've all been, yeah, 
they've also been since we 

2659
02:17:11,639 --> 02:17:15,200
recorded Valerie Ritas, the 
technology available to us for 

2660
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:18,240
editing has improved. 
So Shaya went back and fixed a 

2661
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:23,000
lot of those old ones. 
So the patron versions of 

2662
02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:26,240
Valerie Ritas, character by 
character only are higher 

2663
02:17:26,240 --> 02:17:28,760
quality than the original 
Valerie Ritas episodes by a 

2664
02:17:28,760 --> 02:17:31,400
pretty notable amount. 
But yeah, we have done all of 

2665
02:17:31,400 --> 02:17:34,920
Aria, but we haven't completely 
remastered all of Aria 'cause 

2666
02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:40,600
that was AII compiled them in 
one phase and then we upgraded 

2667
02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:43,240
some of our audio editing 
capabilities later. 

2668
02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:45,799
So now I'm going back through 
and running them. 

2669
02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:47,879
So anyways, they're they're 
constantly getting better. 

2670
02:17:48,320 --> 02:17:50,840
Yeah, Yeah. 
It's a, it's a thing that we 

2671
02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:55,040
quote UN quote deal with here. 
On our end is technology and 

2672
02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:58,559
podcasting, especially the last 
two to three years, has rapidly 

2673
02:17:58,559 --> 02:18:02,760
accelerated. 
The tools we have to make our 

2674
02:18:02,760 --> 02:18:07,160
show better are becoming a lot 
more common, a lot more 

2675
02:18:07,160 --> 02:18:09,280
affordable, a lot more higher 
quality. 

2676
02:18:09,400 --> 02:18:11,040
Yeah, I wonder. 
And that can apply to our past 

2677
02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:12,760
episodes. 
I wonder if anyone has noticed 

2678
02:18:12,760 --> 02:18:16,160
that the last few months of our 
audio on podcast side has been 

2679
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:17,719
improved? 
If you tell it can tell a 

2680
02:18:17,719 --> 02:18:20,440
difference. 
Leave us a review and tell us. 

2681
02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:22,320
Yeah, yeah. 
Good time for that and we'd 

2682
02:18:22,320 --> 02:18:24,520
appreciate your any thoughts you
have on that. 

2683
02:18:24,520 --> 02:18:27,559
And if you anything, certainly 
criticisms, we are certainly 

2684
02:18:27,559 --> 02:18:30,400
happy to accept those as well if
they're made in good faith. 

2685
02:18:30,639 --> 02:18:33,639
I wouldn't call myself happy to 
accept those willing to accept. 

2686
02:18:33,639 --> 02:18:34,360
Willing. 
OK. 

2687
02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:36,799
Willing. 
Tough, but fair. 

2688
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:40,360
I would. 
I tend to agree. 

2689
02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:43,320
I don't love criticism. 
Yeah, Like, yeah, give it to me.

2690
02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:46,000
I want to be told I'm wrong. 
I want to be told I'm bad. 

2691
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,080
You're bad, and you should feel 
bad. 

2692
02:18:49,480 --> 02:18:53,440
Thank you, Zoidberg. 
And with that, we'll sign off. 

2693
02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:57,200
Until next time, my friends, my 
fellow historians, you know what

2694
02:18:57,200 --> 02:18:57,680
to do.