As King's Justice, the dungeons were his responsibility since he
lacked a tongue pain had largely left the running of those
dungeons to his underlings but Cersei held him to blame for
tyrion's escape. All the same.
It was my work. Not his Jamie almost told her
instead he had promised to find what answers he could from.
I'm the chief underhood. Jailer a bed back old man named
run a furlong lawyers. I see you wonder what sort of
name is that the man had tackled when Jamie went to question him.
It is an old name to his true. I am not one to boast but there
is royal blood in my veins. I am descended from a princess,
my father told me the tale. When I was a tad of a lad long
Waters had not been a tad of a lad for many, a year to judge
from his spotted head in the white hair is growing from his
chin. She was the fairest Treasure of
the maiden Vault Lord open fist the great Admiral.
His heart to her, though. He was married to another, she
gave their son. The bastard name of waters in
honor of his father and he grew to be a great night.
As did his own son, who put the long before the waters.
So men might know that he was not basically born himself.
So I have a little dragon in me. Yes.
I almost mistook you for egg on the Conqueror.
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Okay, so I mentioned, as always that there are parallels, with
Oaken Fist and in particular, rather than playing the guessing
game. We do sometimes they're just
going to be kind of woven in because all the parallels
surround oh confessed and I think a lot of these parallels
are kind of straightforward once.
They're pointed out and he doesn't really parallel one
character, super strongly, there's more like I'd say, three
characters that he has a lot in common with and some spots he
has some aspects of these other characters.
He's not like them at all. But in some ways the connections
are really tight. These characters are Davos or
rain Waters and Daemon Targaryen as in the Rogue.
Prince Daemon Targaryen. So as we go through these
episode, you'll see a lot of those parallels pop up.
We're going to start with drift Mark and Hull and the Valerian
lands and all that and just give a little background on that.
And of course, we are going to be doing a sea snake episode as
well. It's a little funny that we're
doing his kid before the father, but hey, that's how it worked
out. Our seasoning capsules gonna
have a lot of art prepared for it, so it's a little more
production is being done on that one.
Now, Islands by themselves are kind of known for being a little
bit off. Like, Different not off.
It sounds weird. I mean like they're a little
different in the mainland. Not in a bad way, not
necessarily in a good way either.
Sometimes in the good way, sometimes in a bad way but
that's not where the point isn't a judgment thing.
It's more about differences, bear Island, great example.
Their culture is different than a lot of the rest of the north
skagos vastly different than just about anything.
It's this weird sort of Proto wildlings, sort of melting pot
of the North and the wildlings and throwing cannibals, then the
iron Islands massively different Of their own religion.
The sisters are three sisters, right?
The names. Keep coming and every time I
mention one, you like, oh, yeah, that's they're a little
different, the arbor, The Shield Islands, the shields are where
you have sort of reach values, but combined with Naval
attitudes Naval culture, which is the most of the reaches is
very much not like that Dragon Stone very unique in itself and
then we have lesser known places like which aisle which is off
that which is ha ha off the coast of the fingers there and
is. Yeah, one day while To talk
about that one more. I want to get to off topic.
As I said, there's so much talk about with this one.
So I always wonder what kind of difference is there were on
drift, Mark, like what were the, what's the kind of the unique
aspect of drift Mark? What's different about it?
One thing to note about it is how far out it is being in the
narrow sea and Blackwater Bay. It has these connections to a
lot of the free cities because of trade and of course, it has
connections to Dragonstone not just because it's close by but
because the valyrians took both of them, the Maybe came to
Westeros before the targaryens, they certainly claim they did.
And he know it's interesting the way they divided the lands, I
mean drift, Mark is a very fertile Island.
It's a little unusual, maybe that no one had taken it by that
point and Dragonstone has, you know, decent bit of fertility to
it. But, of course, the targaryens
took that in part because of the volcanoes, that was a pretty
crucial. Where's the valyrians didn't
have that particular concern and of course they built.
Several castles their drift. Mark grew up really big Big and
powerful and through trade with a lot of the free cities and
it's just a really good Island for Building Wealth.
We see them their fortunes go up and down quite a few times but
they always have the means to recover them.
The exception being current times where they're not really
doing so great, in terms of, well, they're not doing badly,
but they're nowhere near what they were, which is in the times
of, oh, confessed, his young life.
They were richer than even the Lannisters of the height H,
which is kind of You think about?
So in terms of falling they've Fallen really far.
But when you're super wealthy like that you can fall pretty
far and still be important, still be significant which is
the case of the valyrians Montford.
Valerian was loyal to Stannis but he dies during the battle of
the Blackwater and his son who is now 6 is apparently still
loyal to status because Valerian banners were seen when Stannis
smashed, mance rayder? And this half-brother of
Montford is none other than Orion.
Otters, who I mentioned is a lot of open fist parallels and it's
unclear how much of the decline of house valyrians wealth is on
open fist. Certainly the destruction of all
the sea snakes. Treasures is not on him, but he
wasn't even Lord. Then sea snake was, but there is
some evidence that he maybe wasn't the best with money while
being good at just about everything else.
But of course, the other caveat with this episode, is most of
what we know about his later life is pretty vague, the stuff
that's outside of Fire and Blood, he dies Way after firing
blood. And he dies in the year 175,
which is the year bloodraven was born, right?
He just he glamored himself to be baby bloodraven, right?
No, of course not. But he so he died around 60-ish,
he vanished. It sees we don't actually know
what your may not have been 175. That's kind of when they
declared that. Hey, he's probably never coming
back, is someone? Someone disappears at see, you
don't have a specific date. You just have to go.
I guess, he vanished sometime around then and we don't really
know a lot about his big voice. Voyages, which is kind of too
bad because those are really interesting level.
We love the adventure stories, we love the exploration stories,
but we do have some, some guesses on some of those which
we'll get to in good time. We'll start at his birth here
and now that we've had some background on drift Mark and how
silurian Allen of Hall? He was born, of course, that's a
bastard named. His brother, Adam was born, over
one year earlier roughly and they were grew up together.
His father, quote, unquote, father is lane, or Valerian, but
we all should know if you've taken it too.
To look at any of the stuff, it's pretty clear lane or was
not the dad, he was unambiguously gay and of course
we don't believe he was the father of the strong children
because of the brown hair and with all that, it makes it
extremely unlikely that he was having bastards on the side.
If he's not interested in women, he's definitely not sneaking off
to have sex with one so it's very likely that the commonly
believed story that correlates Valerian himself is the father
of both Adam and Alan is True. And that is how we're going to
proceed as if that's a fact. And there's a cut, just a couple
of pieces of detail to seal that up in terms of the logic there.
And why I'm so certain if they were laying horse, why would the
mother refused to name the father?
Because that would be a good thing.
And why would they need to be kept away from rainey's?
Who is part of the reason that corley's supposedly didn't
acknowledge the bastards until after his wife died?
Because apparently she had a hot temper and wouldn't want her.
Bastards around maybe a bit like the inverse of Ned and John and
lyanna. Instead of pretending the kid is
his. When it's not he pretends the
kid isn't his only the for the world to figure out the truth
later, which is presumably coming for John as well.
There's people are going to learn the truth.
If not, everyone can learn the truth, Imagine John at cat hands
but we're cat was cold rain. He's would be fiery and with a
dragon. So imagine Catlin the dragon, I
don't think Ned could Be harder for Ned to keep that secret.
If gal that a dragon. She's like, no, you're gonna
tell me this whole story. The mother of both of these
boys, Adam, and Alan was Morel de of Hall, AKA Mouse, who was a
pretty awesome character. She's kind of overshadowed by
her kids and her famous lovers, both of the fake one and the
real one corley's, but really just a neat character.
She inherited her father's lands.
She inherited his ship building Scylla teas.
And they were basically raised at these facilities and since
corley's didn't claim them, until later, she was the one
that raised them. So, she's the only parent figure
early on in their life and I took after her in a lot of ways,
she's described as small and quick and clever, and that's how
they're described and brave, very brave, she's considered
very brave and both Adam and Alan.
There are lives prove that unquestionably that they were
Brave and ambitious. Yes perhaps all three of them
maybe at maybe Adam wasn't super ambitious but Morel de made a
big life for herself. She expanded on her business.
Did the different things traded, build her own ship to things
like that now and of course, Rose very high.
Adam died. Too young for us to know what
his full life would have looked like and whether he would have
aimed for high offices or things like that but some certainly
proved himself in battle. So I think that the fact that
this is the she was a shipwright.
Her father was a shipwright is almost certainly the reason that
there was this connection first place they probably We built
ships for the valyrians, and that would be why coral reefs
wasn't in contact with them? He would have come by the ship.
Right. And hey, make me some ships and
hey your daughter. I do like her.
Yeah, so that's that's pretty neat.
I also wonder about the general people of drift Market.
How many settlers came from valyria, when the, when the
valyrians settled there, do they bring a lot of other silver
haired people there? The reason I ask is because Alan
and Adam were both. Purple haired purple-haired,
silver-haired purple eyes. Like the Syrians have so their
Heritage is very straightforward as far as that goes but we don't
know if it just came directly from their father the that look
or whether it was from both their parents.
It's an interesting little academic question there.
We wonder about the, the average genetics of the Valerian, small
folk and minor nobility for one thing.
The valyrians whichever settlers did come over with the original
Valerian, surely had to be some, they didn't just come just their
household and nobody would have. It would have only been About
250 to 300 years prior to all this the pretty long time.
But not a super, super long time.
If they brought enough Valyrian blood over it would still, you
still have a lot of silver haired purple eyed people over
there. So around 125 is the year.
She sold her shipyards and this is when she made it about a
trading Cog. It says that she used the
proceeds to buy a trading Cog, but surely she had a lot more
left over because I don't know that you'd sell a place that
makes ships and all you get is one ship out of a place that
makes ship. Oops, so I figure there's a lot
left over to put in the bank there she names her ship Mouse
after her and this is also really important for Adam and
Alan because on this ship during her trading, Ventures is where
Allen and Adam kind of cut their teeth.
In terms of sailing, first of all, they growing up around us a
dock a ship right. So they're already growing up
around Sailors and Naval types, but then they actually get to go
sailing from a pretty early age and learn the ropes.
That's of that As to sailing and become Sailors for Life.
Basically, I guess Adam again didn't have a chance to fulfill
that full dream and I guess flying a dragon's, probably a
little more interesting than sailing but you know for the
rest of normal people that's not an option.
Super Chat from Craig Mulvey. So glad I finally made a
livestream. I'm really enjoying y'all's Fire
and Blood coverage. Can't wait to hear your take on
open fist unlikely rise. I'd call it unparalleled, but I
doubt that will stop you. Yeah, it is a little
unparalleled, I don't. Like I said, it was hard to find
121 parallels. Four characters like him.
I had to fuse with three at least and there's probably good
other calls their that connecting to other characters.
I'm sure it isn't limited to those three.
Those are just three that stood out to me and when you have a
rich full life like this that we don't even have all the details
on. There's bound to be some strong
parallels out there. Alright this next section
rather, this early first section, we can call it besides
the early life stuff is called Dancing With Dragons.
One of the first things that he and his brother were known for
is Dancing With Dragons see smoke.
Was kind of a Velar Ian dragon in a way like the dragons are
mostly Targaryen right? But see, smoke was kind of
valerian. You know, that the families are
related, they share a lot of blood.
So these things are kind of hard to be two distinct with, but
see, snoke was me. See snoke.
Whoa, I got Star Wars in there. See snoke.
Wow. Schnucks aquatic younger
brother. That's when he So see smoke is
it was written by laner and later written by Adam so you can
see why I'm like this is kind of a Valeri dragons he smoked
wasn't written by a person that had the name Targaryen you can
see why I've categorize him. That way later dies back in 120,
I believe it was and see smoke has no rider for a while, but
when the call for dragonseeds come interestingly it's not Adam
and Alan who get to go first. It's Lord Commander Stefan
darkling, Rainier is kingsguard head, which is kind of weird
because you wonder what they were thinking, right?
How did this guy think he could do it?
How did he think he was a seed? Did he think he had Dragon blood
in his past? I guess he probably did, and
that makes sense, because the dark ones are the one of the
closest families to the targaryens.
They had seven members, join the Kings guard over there span and
so I'm guessing maybe they had a princess in their That was
married into their family from the targaryens that it's got to
be something, right? I don't think this darkened guys
like yeah I can do this I don't need Dragon Blood because
there's so much of this is made about dragonseeds so I don't
know. I kind of seem strange to me
that he would just I don't have dragon blood but I'm doing this
so really probably did. Of course.
The valyrians do have Dragon Blood that's very
straightforward but it gets a little a little off here with
thinking about where the dragon blood comes from Adam apparently
has no trouble taming see smoke, we don't hear about any issue,
know No struggle, no danger. It just it just happened.
It probably did happen on drift Mark though, because that's
where some see smoke, probably was almost call him.
See snoke again. And this may have emboldened
Allen to try because it worked for his brother.
Although I think he was probably already pretty eager to try
because he's seems to have that kind of Personality.
Yeah, like I wanted to say here, the Dragon Rider implications
are kind of weird. I talk about house darkling and
how, maybe they have something going on, but if lane, or isn't
the father of Adam and Alan, which we believe, Then it makes
it a little trickier to see where the dragon blood came
from. Certainly some in the past some
Targaryen bride. Marry me to house.
Valerian makes sense, but we don't actually know who that is.
It would actually make a lot of sense if it was laying or
because Lane were is the son of Ray niece.
Who is definitely a Targaryen so that in one sense is the only
bit of evidence that points delay nor being a father of Adam
and Alan, but it's too little, it's not enough evidence given
all the other counter evidence. I see some people in the chatter
wondering. If Marilla was a dragon scene,
hey, you know what, I didn't consider that and it's a hundred
possible, 100% possible. So there's a couple different
ways is Dragon Blood could have gotten into their veins so to
speak. And once again, this comes with
a caveat if that's even necessary.
So next up is sheep stealer which is more in line with Alan
because he is trying to tame sheep.
Stealer Heats first tries for gray ghost, which presumably he
of course, he had to go to Dragonstone to do this that's
where Greg Ghost lives. And he presumably had his
brothers help because like walking around looking for gray
ghost on foot sounds kind of not very likely to work, but if Adam
is flying around and see smoke, that's a lot more effective.
I would think so. He tries for cheap steel or
instead because he can't find Greg ghost.
And this is really Brave. Sheep stealer kills tries as
many seeds as the other wild dragons combined.
Now that's a loaded statement. The other quote unquote The
other wild dragons combined. There's only three wild dragons
as in Wild Ones. Who hadn't been tamed before?
So that means sheeps dealer killed twice as many dragonseeds
as griego stand the cannibal combined.
And while we just pointed out the gray ghost is really hard to
find. People probably didn't have
tried to ride gray ghost that often.
So that means that all these deaths are on the cannibal, the
cannibal who is older and scarier.
So Chic dealer killed more dragonseeds than the cannibal.
Part of that is because the cannibal is scaring.
People are smart enough, not even trying the first place but
still any way you slice it. This is really really Brave and
we don't even think Allen tried for the cannibal because he's
small and quick, this is probably part of why he survived
sheep. Stealer was kind of known to the
people of drift Mark already because he Reign he or she
ranged that far to find sheep. That may have been another
reason why Alan was particularly aware of sheep stealer and
aiming. NG to tame him her versus the
cannibal, for all the other reasons that the key wouldn't
want to try to tame the cannibal.
I'm just really switching my ends and M today I just said
Campbell is that some sort of disease and an M switching?
I don't know, but I have it today.
I'm infected with NM itís. When the bonding attempt with
sheep stealer went badly. He got burned and maybe this
maybe I'm exaggerating how much his quickness helped him because
it also says that his brother flew sneeze.
See Smokin, almost it again and rescued him, drove off, sheep
stealer. Now, interesting little side
note, Allen's career full of success full of wins but one
thing he's another thing, one of two things, he's maybe not so
good at money, was one of them. Another one is patients.
We see here that patience is what worked for Nettles Nettles
got Chief dealer by being patient, and Alan just went for,
it didn't work and moved on. So I think that's a good little
note important to take into account here.
Not long, after The Taming of see smoke, core lease of a sea
snake, not the sea. Snake petitions rhaenyra, not
Ray Mira to legitimize them, and she does.
And Adam is named are to drift Mark as well because he
immediately becomes the eldest Valerian in line and now there's
a little bit of stuff with the valyrians who were in line for
the Rainier as valyrians were in line for the iron throne.
But that's another side here, we're going to bother with the
talking about that Adam fights in the battle of the gullet.
Which was that really Bloody nasty battle where egg on the
third was traumatized, where viserys was captured, where a
whole bunch of ships were sunk, we're Jus carries and ver Max
died, it affected him. Adam was, I don't know.
Trauma might not be the right word, but it probably is.
And he went and talked to Lord Carlie about it and surely given
is closest to his brother Allen heard about it.
So Allen's first experience, quote, unquote with war would
have been hearing about it from his brother and it didn't seem
to dampen his enthusiasm for Ian but it maybe was a little bit
sobering and of course it's going to be a really big deal
their relationship and there's lots of evidence that Allen or
at least some very specifically strong points of evidence that
Allen had a lot of respect for his brother.
Of course, this points Adams already saved his life once so I
don't know. He's got a lot to be grateful
for even if they weren't tight. And it seems like they were
tight. And of course, all other thing
that happened at the Battle of gullet, besides this personal
stuff, is that drift Mark? Took heavy losses.
Not just ships but they got invaded high tide and the
really, really cool Valerian castle that drafter G is making
some awesome art for us to show during the sea.
Snake episode was sacked and that's where he had all his
Eastern Treasures. The sea snake head from his, all
his voyages, he collected in there.
I was insane wealth. The reason they were rated above
the Lannisters and hightower's destroyed.
So this is a huge loss for the valyrians and this is also The
beginning of other things going bad for the valyrians.
He was at drift Mark Allen when the alliance between the
valyrians and targaryens fell apart, due to rhaenyra and her
council's, kind of inexplicable paranoia with regard to
bastards. I guess it's not inexplicable,
it's just crazy over the beliefs that non bastards, especially
nobility, have about bastards and how little trust they can
have for them is just never ceases to be over the top but
it's consistent. So, It's not, it's not like I
don't think it's not realistic. Given what George is laid out,
they move to arrest Adam. The one Dragon Rider in town
because the rest of them are out doing other stuff or dead but
core lease after arguing, vociferous lie, that this is not
only dumb but unnecessary and yeah just all these bad ideas.
He points out all the things is wrong with this idea and since
they don't listen to him he goes and warns his son and Adam
escapes. They figure out or Zoom, that he
warned him. And I mean they were right, and
he was then treated roughly and trying to sell Adam responds to
this accusation of treason in the most noble, way imaginable,
not by turning sides, which is what a lot of people would do.
They would be like, you think I'm your enemy?
Well, fine, I'm going to be your enemy.
That's how you're going to treat me instead.
He just one up some and says, oh I'm not loyal, I'm going to show
you loyal and he flies around to a lot of the castles that are
still semi-loyal. To the blacks caused gets a
ragtag army of 4,000 formed together by racing to these
different Castles and getting as much support as possible and
saves King's Landing. I mean, it's incredible what he
did. And it's another really bloody
battle that he participates in the Second Battle of tumbleson
and it stops the greens Advance on King's Landing like I said,
but of course, it also featured a lot of losses, like Adam
himself, as well as a lot of other people who are maybe not
so Relevant for this episode other than trying to tame sheep,
stealer Alan was very much in his brother's Shadow.
At this point. He didn't have a dragon.
He didn't have this amazing display of loyalty, which I have
to think permanently impacted how people saw bastards.
I mean, he Adam wasn't just representing his house and
himself. He was representing all
bastards. He was like, look, this is bull,
we are adjusted. We can be just as loyal as
anybody else. We aren't made differently in.
In the way y'all think it's a pretty cool underrated seen in
the dance of the dragons and in Fire and Blood and worldwide
fire because it pops up there as well.
But it's huge for Allen on a personal level for trying to get
in his shoes. And in his head is a monstrous
incident in his life, especially considering how young he is like
15 ish at this point, from this point on though, he's no longer
going to be in the shadows. He basically takes the stage and
keeps it starting now. And this is where he's like, a A
character that I didn't mention for a parallel because other
he's not really like this character that much.
But in this moment he kind of is and it's like, Rob, he's a 15
year old young Lord in charge of an ancient house because the
young king has his father in prison which correlates is still
alive at this point. But he's in prison.
Just like Ned was and he's a bit like John vaguely here because
his badass serious brother died, a hero, without Heirs of his own
and he becomes the heir of his serious badass brother, John
just like Adam Allen rather, but the huge difference between
Allen and John among other things on with Rob is Alan had a
lot more military power especially because Dragons Were
effectively off the table. At this point ships are always
powerful but chips when there's no dragons, way more powerful
because ships versus dragons is bad bad, bad news for the ships
even when they get lucky and take out a dragon.
Like they did in the gullet, the other side, effect of the sea
snake being thrown in jail, mint.
Mass defections of valerian men who simply just melted away from
King's Landing catching ship here and they're making their
way back to drift Mark and coming back as part of Alan's
Army. And this Army of Alan's is
interesting. He had a little bit of a tough
spot here because he's got his father in jail and he can't just
go Buckwild attacking things. The most important thing is to
keep his father alive, so he has to be threatening so that they
can't just kill his father without Out, worry, of
Retribution, but if he gets too aggressive, then they can kill
his father in their version of Retribution.
So it's a bit of a tightrope walk.
But I said that egg on the second had the sea snake in
prison but he didn't personally have him in prison because he
himself egg on the second was still trapped on Dragonstone
because Sunfire was dead. It was Craig and Stark who had
thrown the sea snake in jail back.
Then we have a lot of different confusing back and forth
Ambitions and things that people.
Are aiming for here. So what he was trying to do was
planning to Track Attack Dragonstone to maybe capture egg
on the second and do some sort of trade, like, capture egg on
trade egg on for his father, may be kind of like Rob would have
considered Jamie swapping for Ned before that became
impossible because Ned's head was separated from his body.
So there is no steps of Baal or moment for the sea snake.
I guess. Alan ships were more of a threat
than Rob's host. Andre Nero's a lot more like
Circe than Joffrey and alicent also was a Around.
And she was there to cut a deal. I'm sorry.
I misspoke when I said Creek and Stark through season, they can
jail, that's later this time. It was Allison.
Who freed corley's from prison and cut a deal with him, which
had him joining the greens in exchange, for peace, which meant
Allen had to back off because his father still in charge and
that means that egg on now gets to come to King's Landing and
Alan gets to bring him. It says the guy with all the
ships and he does this, this is one of the the first of many
examples of him being insolent and he does this by bringing egg
on the second on Mouse. The ship named for his mother
and it's a small ship, you know, not not too kind of not the
state Galley, not a big fancy worship.
So it was done as an insult definitely but very soon after
all this, the sea snake switches sides again in the name of
Peace, this is when Creek and Stark comes up and egg on the
second. Ends up dead of poison also in
the name of Peace. So again, Alan's presence and
the threat of the valyrians fleet is cited.
As a reason that the sea snake is allowed to live.
Meaning the creegan allows him to live, but of course, as we
detailed last week, black Ali, black would probably had the
most to do with that. But egg on the third also
pardoned, the sea snake. And we know that unlike say
Unwin Peak creegan actually listen to a gun.
The third's underage, decrees at least most of the time.
So Allen's men who are probably feeling like some sort of
boomerang at this point, there's back and forth.
Like we're, blacks were greens, were blacks again?
We're wait, there are no, blacks are greens but who are enemies.
So now these guys would just picked up a passenger at
Dragonstone and dropped him off are now returning to it, to
attack it to clear out the remaining loyalists to begin the
second soon after egg, on the third ascends and boom.
We've got a Ian for egg on the third and Ellen, is there for
the coronation along with his who, I've written in the notes,
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Lannister, commission's, 50 new galleys.
Perhaps to end the dependency on house, Valerian and prevent them
from having such power in Blackwater base, and not only
the valyrians, so such a Powerhouse at Sea, which again
wasn't as big. A problem as recently as a
couple years prior because of the presence of dragons.
But now this is a new Westeros and military power takes a
different form. The hierarchy is different in
that regard. Also think it's important to
mention that because the height H and Lannisters were second
fiddle to Valerian wealth. Although maybe not at this point
because of the loss of high tide, maybe that's a bit of the
undertone here as well. That a little bit of hay.
The Lannisters just like the baratheon's and some other
houses kind of wanted to unseat. The valyrians is the number two
house in Westeros. And anything to take power away
from house. Valerian is going to be towards
that goal. We also have the first
appearance of rock, a Leo run dude, who betrays the try?
Our key and starts being the pirate king that he is, and by
taking part of the stepstones, that's going to become a really
big factor in this coming up for Alan, because he's gonna have to
deal with Rin Dune multiple times.
As is a lot of Westeros, as is a lot of the free cities.
He becomes pretty darn important.
Let's take I can hear and talk about some of the parallels from
the parallel live standpoint early on.
You see some of the parallels to Davos the stuff with Orion
Waters and Daemon Targaryen. You see, only a little of to
this point with Damon. You get some of the insolence
and the being who he wants to be and the aggressiveness and
obviously, dealing with the stepstone spending, a lot of
time fighting Pirates and wars in the stepstones with or
rainwater's. Well, or rainwater's is a
Valerian and he is Is was a bastard and he's ambitious and
he's changes sides a few times. So there you go.
And with dabo's it's more of the always treated badly by nobility
but always does a great job kind of terms of Merit he's great but
always kind of insulted and pushed aside or just not listen
to because of his bastardy and that is a very common theme with
Alan, going forward. We're going to see him
Constantly insulted pushed back on and set aside, despite most
people in his position, like say pacster red wine, or some of the
other guys who control huge fleets, people are always
deferring to them and being very wary, of their power, but it's
not the way Alan is treated in a lot of cases by some people.
Some people are wisely, wary of his power, but a lot of them
treat him as if he's a nobody, which is so strange, because
he's, so, not, I nobody is very powerful.
After things break out in the Narrows, see things are going
on. Still in King's Landing was a
lot happening there with the Regency and our The Wolf, of
course we've recovered the sea snake dies, pretty early in all
this at age, 79 in the year, 132 early 132 and the dance ended in
131. So again he wasn't around all
that long for the aftermath even though his role was very
crucial. So, Alan and his mother Morrell,
do mouse bring him back to drift Mark in state on a ship called,
In this case, which is, I guess one of their biggest most fancy
ships and he immediately claims the lordship because, of course,
he is, he's the heir. It shouldn't really be a matter
of dispute, but this is drift Mark, we're talking about an
incredibly powerful castle and there's other valyrians out
there and here's where we remember that incident a while
back. When serve aymond went to King
the serious and said, hey I should have drift Mark, all
those kids are Strong's and of course what he got for that was
his Tongue pulled out. Well I'm sorry he didn't get his
tongue, pulled out his descendants got their tongues
pulled out. He got killed and burned fed to
Cyrax, but his descendants were still around some of them who
still didn't have their tongues, including one named surmount Ein
and another name. Sir ogre, I believe both of them
were tongueless. They tried to assassinate Alan
but they failed. Valentine was killed Rogue.
I was captured. He took the black.
So Alan I guess? Defended himself.
He probably fought off some of these guys.
Hey, small and quick, right? Might be a factor here not that
he has anything really in common.
All that in common with Shadrach the Mad Mouse but it's hard to
not think of small and quick dude and the word Mouse and not
think of him, maybe there's more parallels and I think you've got
the whole he's trying to capture Senza.
Whereas open fist is the guy that rescues another long lost
are hidden are and viserys. Maybe there's more to it.
Y'all work on that for me other valyrians cousins Damian and
Darren are I reconciled with Alan rather than continuing to
can test this claim and they get a deal, they get lands on drift
Mark they get lower level Lord level deals.
I suppose you call that so they get some land, they get some
income enough land to build ships on because part of the
deal is they're ordered to provide ships to the Valerian
Fleet. So clearly they're getting a
decent deal here. Now Darren's an interesting
character because he is going to be the father of day naira who
becomes the queen and gives birth to the three princes in
the tower. And a The blessed and very
relevantly, the young dragon there on the first who Alan open
fist has a long career. Well, an important part of his
career working with and he also even probably as important is
his relationship to one of the three princes in the tower
Elena. He has an affair with her and
yeah, that's pretty huge. Is this family connection stays
pretty strong here. But this is all of this and he's
not even 16 yet. Island Valerian.
Wow, right. So, at At this point, he now has
16 a little while. After this succession issue for
drift Mark, he ambitious proud sales right into King's Landing
and says, hey, corley's Valerian my father grandfather.
I don't know what term he uses. He probably had to say, the
official line of grandfather was on the small Council and I
should get his seat. Well you know our modern
sensibilities are like, that is so wrong.
These are not hereditary pose. We shouldn't be passing down
government posts. To your descendants, but we all
know that is how it works. In Westeros, quite often, that's
quite normal for a seat, given to a family member passed, being
sort of held for that family. If that family member dies, for
example, over and just showed up to claim his brothers seat on
the small Council that was given to him.
And now they're just kind of passing that off to the side to,
which one tyene I believe, but he, they're like, no, again the
Lannister Thailand Lannister. Maybe again, as a kind of slight
power play here. Says no, you are too young and
Unwin Peak is selected instead. Oops, it was not a good play.
So the Council of regions does this kind of stuff they always
do, which is do their governing and a big part of their
governing, his making marriages and make marriages is always a
big thing during aftermath after a big old Civil War part of the
healing process is is binding up the wounds with marriages.
One of these marriages. They decide is Bela as in Bela
who Road moondancer and help finish off some fire and badly
hurt egg on the second even more, that Bela was going to be
married off to Thaddeus Rowan, Thaddeus round decent dude, but
40 years older than her and not ideal at all.
So, she pulls a, I guess you could say pulls analysis, and
and runs off goes to Alan, Valerian himself and says, hey,
they're trying to marry me to ruin your mic.
Cousin and hey, you know this is wrong and from Alan's point of
view, there's a lot to like here one.
If he has a son with Bela he that kid would be egg on the
thirds are until egg on had his own son.
And we know this because that's what they were saying about
fattiest and Bailey. They were saying, hey, if that
isn't Bela have a son, that kids, the are two egg on unless
he until he has his own kid and I got again, is still really
young this point. He's not gonna have kids any
time soon so that's Obvious angle for Alan to be like, ooh
that's that's a good way. That's ambition right there.
That's a good way to get closer to the throne but there's even
more here which is that pale is hot, princess.
That's exactly his age basically.
Like they're within a year of each other and he's a marshal
type Brave badass. And so is she you know, it's
relationships aren't that simple but there's a you can see how it
could have gotten along and later on.
They would fight a lot, but they always seem to make up into
fiery people. But here's where one of these
Insults come. They look down on Allen as
someone who had quote, a snake for a sire.
A mouse for a mother. Is this to be our Prince
consort? They really do not.
Like the idea that bail is kid. Could be the are they really
don't like that? Because well, because of all the
stuff I just said about her. They didn't like her that much,
to be honest. And they definitely didn't like,
Alan that much either. So, this is a lot of insulting
of him and more of their thoughts on bastardy calling him
up jumped and all that. Now, egg on the third is
friendly with Alan. He likes him.
He's like a lot of people doesn't think of this too much.
In terms of politics, he's a good guy to have on your side
and so he tries to appoint him as Lord Admiral /, master of
ships members at this point that title was kind of both.
It was both Lord Admiral and master of ships, but the council
undoes all those appointments because they're like, nope,
you're too young. You don't get to make
appointments yet. So no, they're not like creaking
Stark at all. They go against him on just
about everything. But to assuage the people that
hey, Gunther did name to different positions, they give
those guys other jobs instead say, hey oh you offered this guy
a job. Sorry, egg on the third, that's
not going to happen but we're going to give him a job anyway.
So he's still he's not too unhappy except Alan, they don't
give him anything. He was offered master of ships
by the king and the council says, no that doesn't count.
Instead it goes to gedman Peak who is not even a sailor and Is
clearly related to the new Power Player.
Mr. Unwin Peak mr. Yeah.
Mr will go with mr. Not Lord.
And here's where there's another or rainwater's Vibe coming up
here. A Lannister orders, the building
of 10 new warships. Exactly what Cersei did in A
Feast for Crows and when they were finished yeah Orion ran off
with them. And while we don't know what
happens to these 10 worship specifically this part of the
fleet that gets a Adhere to deal with all this stuff that's
happening in the narrow sea, which is the try.
Our key + R Kelly over and dune and the point we want to get
into all the reasons those those groups are fighting the point is
that it messes trade up badly. Both from the pirate activity
attacking ships, and the less piratical more tyrannical.
High taxes being charged on any ship that passes through.
That's kind of what they're fighting over the right to
charge tolls. Through the stepstones, it's all
about money. That's that's it.
Money and power as usual, not long after this is when Oak and
fist becomes 0 confessed. We with the stand, the situation
is that Penthouse? Controls part of the stepstones,
Rendon the rest braavos, the Season, north of that.
Now, the way this plays out is the Valerian Fleet is added to
this war Fleet. It's a big one, he has 200, just
himself, so I'm not really sure. I don't either it's not listed
or I Figure out how many ships it was but Alan alone brought
200 is a really big Fleet and there's a great quote here.
He doesn't like the idea of giving command over.
And what happens is Ned Bean, who is experienced sailor.
At least is sent to take over the Valerian fleets and Allen
says, no, they are my fleets now and bail is monkey, is more
suited to command them than Uncle gedman.
That's what he says when the announcement is made.
But when Ned Bean comes over to take command, he sends him back
and says I would have had him But I am loathe to waste good
hempen, rope on a bean, another of his kind of salty, quote,
salty being a pretty perfect one for a sailor like that line, a
lot of ways good hempen, rope on a bean.
Let's take two minutes here to talk about Ned bean.
I think it's hilarious. I posted this on Twitter
yesterday that a character named Ned Bean who obviously reminds
us. Simultaneously of Ned Stark and
Sean Bean who was, you know kind of the same guy and this net
being character does not die during the story at all either.
They're not even like a hint that he died.
He just enters the story and then kind of Fades away.
Maybe he'll die in Fire and Blood too.
So we can hope that this Injustice this wrong can be
righted because it's just this is way too unrealistic guy
named. Ned Bean isn't killed right.
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All right, let's get back to it. What we were talking about is
these all this constant shifting of alliances between In the
these powers in the narrow sea as gedman, Peak, and Ned bean
and Alan Valerian reached Hearth.
They hang out there for a minute and regroup and discover that
the political situation has changed dramatically pain toss
is now out of the deal, Ty, Raj has entered the deal and Rendon
in braavos. Have agreed to rule, the
stepstones to kind of together instead of fighting over it.
So a pretty huge change in the political landscape.
Tape. And so gedman, taking the longer
term route, decides to write King's Landing and say, hey, the
political situation has changed. What should we do now?
Are we still going after in Dune, or are we doing something
different? Alan is not into this, he
doesn't like waiting. He wants to take the element of
surprise so he does. He just does it on his own.
He's like yeah I'm going to attack.
I got 200 ships. Let's do this.
But the weird thing is, is he attacks the braavosi?
Which Which he had to have something in mind here.
I mean, if they're controlling the narrow sea and he's house
Valerian, I think this is more of his ambition, but it was
clearly not want the Iron. Throne wanted when he returns
Victorious to cheering crowds because everyone loves a winner
and he was quite a winner, people loved him.
And so that makes it hard to go against him politically when
you're that popular. Now, the actual incident when he
gets his name, I don't want to skip over that as they're
bashing. The braavosi who were totally
taken by surprise. One particularly large, braavosi
ship called the Grand Defiance, which is a dromund itself. 400
oars big, big ship escapes, the Press of ships, only to find
that Queen r. A nice open fist ship at the
time, was kind of waiting for it, or waiting for something
like that. And he gets A full steam ahead.
Well, speed head, no steam power yet.
And Rams, the broadside of the Grand Alliance with their big O
confessed, a big Oak and RAM and sinks it just that's that
crushes. This big, huge warship and sort
of how the whole battle went for the braavosi.
They only killed like three enemy ships and lost you know
half of there's several of which were captured so open fist came
out ahead even though we lost three ships.
Captured more than that and lots of loot hostages and an
elephant, the elephant which gives us another of his insolent
moments where Peak is just yelling at him for for attacking
the braavosi and bringing War to King's Landing against the
braavosi who are such a mighty Naval power.
He just kind of smarmy about it. He says don't forget the
elephant and Peak being a clever man has his own way of.
Of playing this situation. How do you handle a Really Brave
popular hero who's kind of messing up your plans for
everything? Well, we like Oaken fist.
I mean, I think most of us do we certainly like him more than
Unwin Peak? That's, that's not a tough sell,
I think. But from Peaks point of view, I
think he handles this kind of cleverly.
It doesn't really work out for him but it's a pretty smooth
move. You gotta You Gotta Give it to
Peak. He's good at being bad one,
little side note, before Pete. Look though one real loss.
Besides those three ships, which were made made good by capturing
others. Is that he lost that cousin
Darryl. I'm the one who's the father of
De Niro and this brings him close to Genera because Darren's
wife the mother of the naira is also dead by this point.
So young to naira is fostered with the valyrians, especially
with Bela because Alan, you know, he's always out doing
other stuff, but he knew her and that's important that's going to
come up pretty big. So now he is named sort of named
master of ships, again, but it's sort of temporary.
And it's also one of these poisoned gifts, it's kind of
like a, you're on, on winds being like you're on here.
The gift of Master of ships, here comes with a mission and
that mission is a tough one, a really tough one.
It turns out to be the first of six of, Alan's great voyages.
We're going to talk a little bit more about what we know about
the other voyages later, which is It's sad to say except for
the first and second we know very little about them and we
don't even know that much about the second one, but we do have
some, some Clues and some gases, but we'll get to that.
So this is 133 roughly a year after war is over but also core
Lisa's dead by this point. Of course he was dead by 132.
We don't know how many kids Bela and Alan had and George just
says many, but the first one is Elena a girl named Lena.
We do know that O'Keefe is wanted a boy named Corley since
he got many. Kids, I assume one of them was a
boy, so it was probably a corley's, but we don't actually
know that for sure. Maybe he had all girls, it's
possible. The plan is to sail all the way
from King's Landing / drift Mark.
All the way to the iron Islands Dorne is really difficult place
to sail around and its perilous, just for that part.
And of course the more perilous part is facing the ironborn at
Sea, so he's cautious on the way.
He's he kind of behaves a little differently.
Maybe he's learned a few things, maybe he's weary.
Maybe he knows that Unwin is is setting him up a little bit
here. But mostly it's just he knows
what's going on. He knows we're in.
Dune. Still has all this power in the
sea stone, or in the sea Stone in the stepstones.
And there's a lot. He has to, and he also has to
preserve his strength, because if he gets into these fights
ahead of time before facing the red Kraken.
Well, that's already a tough order to beat the red crack.
And so he needs to be at full strength when he gets there.
So it's very important for him to not get into battles or into
situations that cause him to lose strength while he's on the
way. So that's his first stop
basically. Rin Dune is a really fascinating
character, and since he doesn't want to fight he sails in by
himself, when just his ship and says, hey, let's talk and he
ends up staying there for like a fortnight.
So pretty good length of time. You ever wonder what his
captains were doing back on their ships?
Like should we be worried yet? What's going on?
Because we're doing is a tricky tricky guy and also may be mad.
I'd love to spend more time talking about him but for I
don't have a whole lot of time to do that but I will at least
say He has Vibes of Daario and euron and other characters that
are just really out there. He crossed dresses, he's got
uncertain origin, he's an incredible Warrior, he believes
in all the gods. He dies, his beard purple and
orange. Just a really interesting
character, very different one day to the next.
You know, not very consistent guy except for consistently
ambitious and weird. So the final deal is also Weird.
Three ships and Alliance Written in Blood On sheepskin and a kiss
which was arranged differently. I don't know if Wren.
Dune was wanting a kiss from Alan or from somebody.
But the actual deal settled on was that if he ever came to
drift Mark, he would get a kiss from Lady Bela.
And this was after Rendon, wanted Alan to impregnate
multiple of his wives, which is kind of weird.
But on the other hand, it might be a matter.
Ambition. If friend Hoon has a boy with
Allen's blood, he could come claim drift Mark with that
potentially. And this is a pirate king.
So you don't want to give pirate Kings claims to your lands, even
indirectly like that. And I think this is maybe but
even more cleverness on renewals part because we know that Alan
was promiscuous. He had all these lovers and he
was handsome. So, a lot of women got his
attention, even if he wasn't necessarily sleeping with them,
he was getting noticed by a lot of women getting lots of
attention. So renewed may have heard of Of
this reputation and thought this was a good way to, you know, get
him to slip up but doesn't seem likely that it happened.
We don't know that it did, we certainly don't know that it
didn't either. So he moves on from there with
the after that Alliance is in place and stops and door.
Next where he meets a Leandra Martell, who is considered the
new nymeria? We talked about her a bit in our
nymeria series and she's one of the people into him and kind of
like the inverse here happens where they sail up with so many
ships that Doran is alarmed. And like, oh, why are all these
ships here? But they have no ability to
fight them. So they may as well greet them
friendly and say, hey, what's up friends?
And that is how it goes. Because, of course, we do know
that Alan Valerian had no military designs on Dorn in part
because a LeAndre and Alan get along so well and maybe sleep
together, but that's disputed by a lot regardless of whether they
did. It definitely pissed off her
suitors, which he had many and they get food and water and go
on their way. Way on the way to the high
tower. We have a little more art from
Fire and Blood where we have Allen's ships facing, a storm
west of Salt Shore. Nothing too interesting about
that. They're, you know, it's storms
are always bad but it's proof of what I was saying that, it's no
small thing to sail around Dorn and I guess I didn't face
whirlpools actually, I think a Leandra gives them a map to show
them how to avoid the whirlpools is to imagine how difficult it
would have been if they didn't have this Whirlpool map to help
them avoid. So then he gets to Old Town and
against the high tower. He's greeted by Lord Lion-O.
Very pleasantly. And this is good because this
is, you know, Hightower is the spot of the main power base for
the greens, which, you know, that's all died down.
But it's not completely died down and he gets along, really
well with Lady Samantha. The one who wrote in on the
horse, to the highs, to the high step there, who she's really
cool, and he gets along well with her.
See why they both are both have these kind of similar
personalities, perhaps. So all this is goes a long way
towards settling. Some of these old grievances
between blacks and green seeing these important figures get
along. This is also where he hears the
news about the maidens day ball. So in other words, he hears that
De Niro. His Ward is going to marry the
king. So that's good news for him and
good news for his wife because he's almost certainly aware that
his wife. And his wife sister, rain are
the ones that presented Genera to the king.
And while he's it at the high tower, he gets the promise of
more Naval strength, which is great news.
Also, twenty ships from a height H, 30 more for the Arbor, And
while he's waiting for them to be outfitted and crude and all
that, he goes to the Citadel which is of course, what all of
us would do check out those old books, old Naval battles about
ships, Valerian books Scrolls, things like that, which I figure
has got to be some of the same books Alyssa farm and studied
earlier, which I think is really cool.
That's kind of, like, fits into the parallels.
I guess you could say, but it's just, there are there following
each other's footsteps and I guess some of these books, he
may have heard about from his father, as well.
He's specific books of course. Elise had mentioned Fosters
really cool. I love all that.
I love these, I love the the book connections like that.
He goes north after a little while he is impatient again.
Doesn't wait for the arbor fleets to show up there taking
too long and he says hey we're fine.
We got enough ships, he sails off with Hightower ships and
then gets even more ships from The Shield Islands, which is
cool to she'll Downs. Are of course, all about
fighting the iron bar in there like they would not have.
It said that someone attacked the ironborn and that they
weren't a part of it. They have been defending against
the ironborn for Millennia but I've gained right after this
another storm hits and some Or a damage is done but none of this
matters because Dalton Greyjoy is killed by a woman named Tess
who we know very little about just in bed, she was asleep.
She did the thing that Ygritte says, you know, when John's like
well what if you have a husband that's beat you and she says,
well then I'll cut his throat at night, you know?
Well, that's what happened here. It's easier said than done but
it can be done and it was done here.
Unfortunately, she kills herself because She knows that being
caught having done this, she would be tortured to death.
Probably not just something as relatively painless like jumping
out a window, a comparatively. So he just goes to lannisport
and meets up with the Lannisters and hangs out there a bit, and
goes back to the high tower. And on the way runs into that
late red wine Fleet but they hang out, they have a meal
together and it's all cool. The no one's mad.
At least not to a point. That, that is recorded.
He goes back. Around, no, apparently less
trouble sailing around during this time, and goes back to hang
out with Alejandro a bit and that upsets her suitors again,
and more rumors fly. But of course, part of the
reason you had to stop, there was to resupply.
While there a huge moment, he meets dressing Co regard a now
half of this works out really well.
The other half doesn't the the half a dozen workout.
Is that Rogue re the regard Bank becomes a big deal and they
become friendly with the valyrians and of course the real
Gary Bank goes under and the valyrians lose a ton of wealth
but that's coming up a little bit later for now the part that
works out well. Is that the way it's presented
in Fire and Blood, it's kind of the builds suspense a bit.
If you're really on top of your game while reading it you knew
what was going on because we already know from the world of
Ice and Fire that open fist brings back the series.
Actually don't know if we knew it was open fist but we knew
that viserys was recovered around this time and so again
Oak and Fisk gets to be the hero.
He's sale a double hero. In this case he sails around to
deal with the red crack and even though he didn't fight a single
battle, not a single ship. Engagement, it was just the
danger of sailing, which was, you know, not to be despised.
He's chill treated like a hero even though he didn't actually
beat the guy, the guy was just killed on when peek at this
point is paranoid, that open that he's so popular, open
Vistas so popular, that he's going to take his job as hand.
Peaks fears are somewhat realized when he returns and
there's this really big crowd Moment Like This Big Happy
moment where people are cheering, he shows up sales into
the Harbor. Steps off the ship sprockets is
big smile on his face, looking all fancy and successful.
His wife meets him on the dock and hands him their kid.
Who he hadn't met yet, this is Lena the daughter he had met her
yet. So he gets to hold her above the
crowd and the crowd yells knit. Then he kneels to the king and
queen, which he, I guess he hadn't done yet or at least
maybe he had, but he was kind of renewing his fealty, whatever.
You know, that the standard kneeling, before the king that
everyone does But then he just really Nails the moment, the way
he kind of leads the crowd along and drops this surprise, on
their heads. I'm in Peak tries to kind of
undo, he's just so impatient. He's like, who is it?
Who's that person in the hood? And he just rushes up.
And it's just kind of funny the scene, but it's, it turns out to
be young viserys, which egg on the third had so much guilt over
leaving the series during the battle of the gullet and it was
a big part of his trauma that has Part, which is a big part of
his character. Wow.
Is this a big win? For Alan?
Not just for the crowd but now the king is like man you brought
back my brother, my long lost brother, I thank you for that,
that's who he's got. He's the main person has to
thank for it. Another kind of bad thing about
this and it leads to the feeds in to the whole row.
Gauri Bank deal is that open fist is not great with money
potentially. Maybe we're making too much of
this one example but his negotiations with the Rogue art
with the regards for the Release of the series involved him
giving up a ton of value, just to an insane amount of wealth to
get this back to get him back. Maybe they were partly charging
for viserys has eggs because there has had a dragon egg with
him and we know those are worth a ton.
So I'm guessing the ransom included, the value of that
dragon egg. However this didn't prove to be
a big problem for the Iron Throne.
It did prove to be a big problem for Alan personally but because
the regards went Belly Up. The Iron Throne is able to say,
oh, well, our deal, our Ransom deal was with them, not with the
city of lease, so we don't have to pay.
So this ruinous Ransom, never became ruinous because it wasn't
paid. And the first of all, these
reasons, all this popularity, right?
Because he's this hero of the red, defeating the red Kraken
and dealing with Rendon even though he didn't defeat him, but
he still met him and I'm sure there's all these stories being
told about him as rumors and gossip and then sailed to meet
with a Leandra. Just all these people, he's
dealing with all these important people.
He's talking to who all seem to like him.
He could see why his incredibly popular plus.
He's young and handsome and really rich and he's married to
a princess us. Unwin didn't really have that
much to worry about but you can see why he did, you know, if you
put yourself in his position which is awkward because no one
wants to be like Unwin for a minute, but if we do that it's
yeah, it's like I can see why he was worried.
This guy is incredibly popular, incredibly successful, and his
star just keeps Rising. But it wasn't all good.
We have an the incident where like the targaryens.
Did we see maybe a bit of encroachment there where Alan
and Bela give an egg to Lena their daughter?
Who is a Valerian not a Targaryen and well maybe the
gods were listening. Maybe this effrontery was
noticed because this is that incident where the egg hatches.
And it's a blind monstrous hatchling that Immediately rips
the chunk of Flesh from baby laying his arm.
Luckily Allen was there and he grabbed it and killed it really
quickly. Yikes, like what was that about
is this something to do with the drop-off of magic that that is
related to the dragons dying? Or similarly timed with the
dragons dying out and maybe that's affecting Dragon bursts
or this is just some strange defect in this particular
dragon. Egg lot of possibilities there
and of course all his closest with the regard as dealing with
the Giving them such a great deal and just dealing with them
at all and all their gains of power, widely suspected that
he's just too close with him. Another thing that Peak is
paranoid about and other people as well, and though it's not
really a problem, maybe they had reason to believe it was, it's
time on the other hand Marilla, his mother builds the mouse
house which has some really hilarious name, but it's
especially, because it's, it makes it sound like it's small
and Petty, but it's a nickname given to do it by mushroom.
It's actually like a fancy. Ian and Miranda also expands the
trading Fleet and Alan is presumably involved in these
decisions and in helping and they work together a lot.
So you can imagine that this was a joint venture in a lot of ways
with her, just kind of taking charge in the Valerian wealth,
may be supporting it in some way, but again, she had a lot of
her own money, so it's entirely possible that Oka.
Fish wasn't much involved in that, and more on the road
gaara's, which is that the the incident of the secret Siege?
Where egg on the third is trapped inside the red, keep
with the series, and Lara Rogue re, and sand off the Shadow and
all these other interesting characters, including Genera
herself and the false confession from Thaddius, Rowan implicates,
open fist as one of the conspirators.
The series figures this out, he realizes that it is a false
confession. He asks, more leading questions,
that proves that the confession was fake and all this happens.
Basically, an allen isn't aware of any of this least, not
directly. He's not there for this because
all this time, he is being busy. Doing the kind of things that a
normal master of ships would, even though he's not actually
the master of ships, he was named it, briefly, but R again,
the job is given to gedman and gedman.
Great. Ex the guy who got sick sailing
around guy with very little Naval experience, although he
has a little more Naval experience by now, however, this
time. Alan's not mad, we don't know
why. Maybe he's just like, you know
what? I don't like playing politics
anyway. All that stuff.
I didn't like being on the small Council.
I didn't like my little bit of time, dealing with court
figures. I don't, I don't like having to
be around Unwin Peak. He prefers to be in action.
He prefers to be sailing ships, he prefers to be going on
voyages. He prefers to any of us almost
anything to bat, so, I can kind of maybe see a little growth in
him. That way.
That is a, they kind of his Ambitions were more aimed
towards things. He was more interested in and
less towards politics. He's already such a powerful guy
politically. Anyway, so we have Civil War in
the vale and this is what he was busy doing.
He his Fleet takes goal towns, Harbor and doesn't seem to have
a whole lot of trouble with it, although it gets a little more
difficult on land, but he's able to wear down the opposition,
gradually the war drags on for a while.
But he's able to do his thing and gets yet more success under
his belt, another engagement successful, another war that
he's involved with where he's on The Winning Side, and he's a big
part of that. So his reputation just continues
to grow even greater, and he returns to King's Landing to
find that. Yeah, this is, when he's passed
over again for master ships, and he's also up for hand.
But still too young is what he's deemed.
But I gotta say, And was about this age, when he became hand
and viserys who Ellen. Just rescued also becomes hand
at a similar age. In fact, not long from now,
believe maybe like five or six more years.
But showing his even though I was saying, he's maybe not super
interested in politics or perhaps prefers to be elsewhere,
he does still show some political Savvy.
He suggests that isambard. Aaron who is one of the men he
was on opposite side of in this Veil conflict.
Be the new master of coin because Well, I don't know
exactly why. But Aizen Bard was a good
candidate for being mesh point. A person who was good with money
so that's cool. I like, you know, I'm going to
respect Valerian for recognizing that this person was good for
the realm, even though it was so recently, his enemy.
So we're mostly out of we're almost rather almost to the
point where fire and bloods ends, and there's no more
coverage of O confess. So most of what's coming up here
at the end is post. Fire and Blood, but some of it
still is especially this realgar is stuff that we're going to
deal with just for just a minute before we move on to the bigger
things. So, the second voyage again, I
said he has six voyages and interesting thing about that
before we describe the second voyage, let's just say he wanted
six voyages, six different ships, which is cool, but I
wonder why, I wonder if it's maybe some of the earlier ones
were destroyed, maybe just kept improving his designs.
Maybe it was based on where he was going, for example, his
father. ER, sailed the ice wolf to the
north and tried to find a North Passage in the I stare.
And but then he had his sea snake which he sailed in the
South. So that's the little, you know,
that's possibly what's up and open fist called his six ships.
My ladies, which implies that they were all his ships and not
he didn't sail the sea snake or the ice wolf, the ice will.
I mean well maybe the sea snake was a female name for a ship.
I don't know that seems that this is not really a gendered
name but I swallowed Ulf. I don't know.
It sounds kind of masculine but it could be a woman.
There's nothing. There's nothing to prevent it
from being a female named ship and ships are very often ladies,
that's pretty normal. So anyway, brief aside, there to
think about what about his ships, but we just honestly
don't know a whole lot about them.
Because it's regarding collapse. We're not going into detail on
just saying that it happened and you know, a ton of people out to
ton of money and at the iron bank was very much involved and
The Faceless Men were very much involved, probably the collapse
meant, half of the Valerian wealth was lost which of course,
considering how wealthy they were that.
Is it in fathomable some so they tried to you know, make some of
that back, Allen's idea was let's do another trading Voyage
will sail to all these free cities culminating in volantis.
But also including lease and Other places.
And this apparently may I think this involved is mother going as
well. And Bela it was pregnant at the
time and is angry that he would leave during her pregnancy
because he wasn't there for her last pregnancy either.
And she's also a bit angry that he's planning on returning to
Dorne as part of his voyage because well the rumors about a
Leandra and all that. So there's a little bit of worry
that he's gonna cheat again and all that, but apparently, they
make up again. So apparently, this is the
voyage, we don't know, we don't have any details on it, they say
do this, do the trading Circle to volantis, go to Dorne and
lease and pentos and I guess it goes pretty well later in life.
We're told that he battles pirates from the stepstones and
the narrow sea, that might be his third voyage, that might be
further engagement. With Raquel Leo, Rendon renewals
another one of these characters who is still alive as of the end
of Fire and Blood. So we have no idea what happens
Super Chat from Rebecca Santa saying, for the sips six ships
of 0. This.
Well that one turned into a tongue twister on accidentally
so it's $6 Super Chat for six ships of oh confessed very good.
Thank you Rebecca unsurprisingly because he's such a popular
successful winner, he had a lot of books written about him.
A lot of these books are mentioned throughout Fire and
Blood bastard. Born is one of them hard is Oak
is one of them but we don't get a lot of details as to what's in
them. And one of them, we hear that
the book is written by a guy who went on the fifth Jew Voyage
with him but that's The detail we have on the fifth voyage.
That just that this guy Russell still.
Well, Esquire was on the voyage with him.
That's all we know. We know even less about the
others, the sixth Voyage might be the one he didn't return from
but we don't even know that because this is one of those
things where George just tells us he vanishes in 175 there's no
context. We don't know whether he was
with other ships, we don't even know when the Expedition left.
It could have been as early as may be 171, probably not.
But But 172 173, 74. And that range is ladies 175.
Were there other ships with him? Did anyone else return?
Probably not. Because there's so little detail
but I feel like this is one of those things like George doesn't
want to right? Himself into a corner.
Doesn't want to decide right now.
He wants to let more. Since open fist is a character,
is going to be in Fire and Blood to.
He doesn't want to make all these decisions and be bound to
them later. So he leaves it intentionally
vague. Not unlike how, the third
blackfyre Rebellion is left in the world of Ice and Fire and
several other stories where George just or arm a car.
Rain is another one where there's just a notable lack of
detail and it's because George is saving that he's got plans
for that but he does know what they are yet or didn't spend
time on it right at that point because well he's got other
things to write feel pretty strongly about that whenever
George leave something vague like that especially about
character this popular and famous.
There's a reason to think of it on meta on The Meta level and
not on the in World level other potential, things that are
relevant to him. Before we get to his the
conquest of Dorne, which is The main other thing we know about
and what at some point, a deal was worked out with Bravo's to
forgive the attack that Alan made and the indemnity was so
big. That the Iron Throne had to
borrow from the iron bank to pay the sealord.
So once again the iron bank just finds himself with all the debt
in one hand. They're like yep we own.
Everyone's dead, the Rogue, our has had their little shrug are a
spring, a lysine spring as it was called but it didn't last
that long. Yep.
Hard to go. Against the top Bank, when they
have those assassins probably on their side.
And in the year, 138 one of people's favorite a little
tidbits here is that he goes to Raven, Tree haul, and recovers,
the bones of Adam and goes back with them to drift, Mark and
buries them. And just puts that one word
Epitaph on his tomb, which has loyal.
And I guess all caps, even maybe the way it's written.
And yeah, that's ice. It's great.
I love that. I love that George included that
I love the way he wrote it. It's just a it seems to fit
really well. And a lot of people have
referenced that line those lines as sort of like a really great
point. Eventually we know that despite
this craziness, with the blind dragon egg hatching, hatchling
rather that b Lane is armed and friends aegon's or King aegon's
thoughts on dragons in general which he was very you know
scared of them and against them clearly backed down on that
later in life because we know he tries to hatch eggs at some
point. He brings Mages over from the
Far East and hey, maybe that's one of that was on.
Oh confessed. Maybe he's the one who went over
there to get them. Maybe he brought back These
Mages, maybe that was his job. Part of his he was told, hey, go
find, go bring us, people that say they can hatch eggs, I don't
know, there's a lot of possibilities here.
Also, very tempting to think he went to a shy or the Thousand
Islands, basically splices that his father went on the other
hand, that might be the opposite way to think about it.
Maybe he wanted to go to all the places.
His father didn't go that he wanted to go, his father was
little, surely there's them, the world is huge.
There's all these places that the sea snake probably wanted to
sail to the Never Could maybe Allen did some of those things,
but it's also easy to see that he may be tried to retrace his
father steps. In some places may be a little
above, you know, six voyages and voyages aren't necessary.
Just the one place you can go to multiple places on a voyage.
So yeah, we can have it both ways.
Let's move on to conquest of Dorne.
This is way in the future. This is.
So what basically we have here is a long stretch of time
between say 138, which is when the, the Epitaph was done and
157 which is a right around the time that The conquest begins,
but it's also the same year that egg on the third dies.
And here is where we have a quote not from Fire and Blood.
But from Dance with Dragons, I know that tail as well, but
Darren made too much of it in that vainglorious book of his
ships, won that war not goat tracks.
Open fist broke the planky town and swept halfway up the green
blood whilst the main during his strength was engaged in the
princes pass. Stannis drum, his fingers on the
map. Stannis Stannis Tanis?
Yep. Stannis would recognize the
greatness of oh confessed being a naval Commander himself and a
student of history. And yeah, I mean the valyrians
are his bannermen to. So there's a lot of connection
there you got to agree, right? I mean the Stannis is he's not
right about everything but this is military history probably
right. That open fist was crucial to
the success of the invasion of Dorne and it wasn't something
that aegon or any of the other would-be conquerors of Dorne
tried. They didn't use Naval.
Strength, they just use their dragons but you know, sometimes
ships can do things better than dragons.
Dragons are really awesome. It just blowing everything up,
but ships have their own uses. So he was instrumental in
winning the war and as we know the Dorn did not stay conquered
and when they rose up King garon returned with his armies and
navies and again Oak and fist was the commander of the ships.
We can pretty safely assume. He was Master of ships at this
point. But you know, it's not 100%
certain. We are talking him as a much
older, man, at this point. So the the, he's too young thing
doesn't really fly but, of course, not long after that
young, the young dragon was killed during a parley and that
was it for the war, the war ended and the conquest of Dorne
was abandoned because bail or took over because Darren the
first didn't have any kids and baelor the Blessed was while he
was baelor the blessed and he was not about to send any
invasions, he sent himself Barefoot to walk the princes
past or the On way rather and that is a story that has nothing
to do with Alan Valerian, but I do wonder what?
Alan. Valerian did during Baylor's
lifetime. He would not have had a bunch of
orders to go fight people, that's for sure.
I wonder if this is maybe one some of his voyages took place.
He may have been good time to do that, right?
Head out to sea. Go on an adventure when you've
got this crazy septon King doing his thing.
Interesting possibility for an old mystery.
It comes up here and it's funny that Alan is the guy that might
be our connection point. It's long been wondered why
creegan Stark fought aemon. The dragonknight for one thing
their ages are pretty far apart. They do overlap but Rick on who
is son of creegan his are was killed near one of the final
battles of the war. We think it was the initial
conquest of Dorne and not the Recon.
Both of Dorne. So it's possible that because
this is such an important person, the heir to Winterfell
and cragen's promise The Pact was never fulfilled.
They might have wanted to play this cautiously.
So the theory is and this is hat tip to Nina.
Feel for this one that he Allen brought richens bones back to
Winterfell to the north which gives us a potential time for
creegan and aimin to fight again.
I don't think creaking and aim and fought in earnest.
Like creating was trying to kill Amon, but something had to
happen in. This is a reasonable time for
it. If we get any farther into the
future. Well, not only, do we not have
any sort of example, as to giving us a reason why they
would have had a fight. But creaking just gets older and
older and it just becomes hard to imagine a man saying, he's
the finest. Swordsman I ever fought if he
was like in his 60s, it wouldn't be possible.
We got barristan, selmy representing, you know, 63 year
old guys who can still fight incredibly well.
Also, it's definitely possible but it's tough, it's tough to
say. We have another important thing
that comes later in his life is the aforementioned affair with
Elena Targaryen now. Elena wanted to marry him which
strongly implies Bela had died at some point before nouns.
That's an Alum outlasted Bela are outlived, Bela, which is too
bad but not 100%. The case here to seems likely at
least probably not pining to marry a married man.
At least not openly, especially because Elena seem like a decent
person. And they had twins John and Jane
Waters, they were bastards clearly and that John and Jane
waters are the two that rent a furlong Waters descends from
that opening quote from that very awkward figure that Jamie's
talking to the chief under Jailer and these two are his
ancestors that's that. So that's kind of our bookend on
Allen Valerian here. The introduction with the quote
from Jamie and wrapping it up with his ancestors.
We don't know his other ancestors.
Presumably the Montford Valerian and his son are descendants of
Allen, but we don't know that for sure, we do know for sure
that John and Jane Waters is Descendants.
The long water just chill out there?
Who knows where else that Valerian blood is.
So the last few minutes I'm going to refer to an email from
Patron, Kelly Lowry and her husband, who is also a patron,
apparently, I guess they're just Co patrons together as a married
couple. She says, I am what one might
call, A nautical nerd and they sent us a lot of interesting,
tidbits in reference to our son Chaser episode.
And because this is such a nautical episode, I thought we
would refer to some of the things that she is teaching us
here. She says she's sailed historical
tall ships, studied sale, technology and ship design and
is used historical navigational tools for fun.
She says not for survival. She says regarding the sun
Chaser episode, she says Elmo's correct.
When he Says Vikings went from coast to coast for centuries.
European trade ships would know the bearing of one point of land
to the next and go in certain order port to port and that
would depend on the local trade winds and currents and Tides.
It's called caping along with another common form of
navigation, called piloting. So this is sort of what we were
talking about, but it's good to have this clarified and
confirmed by someone who really knows what they're talking
about. And oh, look at that.
She is in the chat and she says, OMG, that's me.
Yes that is you thank you very much for this information.
She refers to our mention of the currents.
And she says, it reminds me of Columbus's men freaking out,
because they knew the Earth was round, but the trade when they
sailed with was continuously blowing East.
So their thought is well, how do we get back?
Which we did reference that in the sun Chaser episode.
Like that would be the fear of a lot of people like well, we're
going to sail East or West rather.
But how do we get back home? She goes on here and says, as
far as navigation, or lack of it.
Currents trade winds and inability to see the stars are
all factors. That could Count for not being
able to get back to the Summer Isles.
So in this case, she's referring to the high tower ship, that
tried to get back to Old Town and ended up in sutorius.
Well, they tried to but via this summer islands and they
completely missed the Summer Isles.
She says and explaining the problem with tacking, oh Gods,
where do I even start? It's hard on the ship and the
sales and it's even harder on the crew.
So tacking means going against the wind essentially.
I think I think it's probably a better way to explain that but
it's basically going against the wind.
So this is this is what we're talking about.
No wonder it's so hard for them to go where they need to go when
the wind isn't just not allowing them to referring to the design
of the sun shades. Or she says Care Act, the Care
Act took over a year to build because the proposed galleys
pieces can be mass-produced. If that's all you're building
care, act's other Hull designs require completely different
pieces and all methods for fastening it would have had to
be. This is my work.
Here would have had to be handmade not just in like some
sort of mold or anything like that and it had to be
custom-built. And she says the different
pieces of the ship are different types of wood.
You don't just build a ship out of one type of wood, all parts
of it and she says the different raw materials.
Come from different parts of the world, which would add delays.
And she says, it's usually Carrick or Carrick.
So I'm saying it, wrong Care Act is wrong.
It's Carrick or Carrick. All right.
And she says, I can't believe you guys mentioned Alice
Westhill sailing past extra Mount while Reina was there.
And did not utter the phrase like ships passing in the night.
Well, that was a good opportunity for a pun but
technically Rayna wasn't on a ship.
She was just on an island. So that's my defense for not
making that joke. Now, she's going to reference
here women and being bad. Luck on ships.
She says there is nothing that makes me more defensive or more
confrontational. And someone bringing this up
first because there is no end to what men are willing to Lemon
women. Absolutely true.
That's my words. And second everyone forgets
about the other thousands of ridiculous things.
Considered bad luck at one time. Or another on ships.
This is definitely true for my experts as well.
Not from sailing, but from Reading history, and sailors and
luck that they're so superstitious, and yes, women
was a thing, but there were superstitious about a million
things. So, in other words, she's not
saying it's false. This did happen.
Superstition is woman was very strong, very powerful, but it's
not as big, or as diverse as maybe a lot of people led to
believe. In fact, I probably exaggerated
how common it was. She says, it only comes up in
the Victorian era, which I did think it was more common than
that, my fault. I suppose good to know, good to
know that it was only in the Victorian era and that it was
not a Superstition elsewhere. So if you see people bringing up
the woman's Superstition thing, and another era, tell them that
they're probably wrong, superstitions in Omens all
around the sunchaser store. As she continues here, I've
never heard of the About the maggots but Dolphins playing in
racing along are believed to be good luck.
However she says the wind finally returned one day near
Sunset when the sky turned red as blood.
But the look of it, set men to muttering, that's a quote from
Fire and Blood of course, according to her, the way it
works, is red sky at night. Sailor's, Delight.
Red sky in the morning. Sailors.
Take warning. And yeah.
So there you go. That was apparently backwards
because it says the sky turned red as blood and your Sunset,
which is supposed to be red sky at night Sailor's Delight.
So, maybe George got that backwards.
She says the red sky at night, was a positive sign in a good
omen, but in the real world or in the real world, but then sir
Eustace continues. I told them it bode well for us
but I lied. This is a No-No.
Never ever. Utter, the words, good luck on
anything. Like it aboard ship and do not
knowingly lie. That's a new.
That's definitely one for me. I hadn't heard that at all.
I didn't even I hadn't. Even heard it inkling of that
thing. So apparently you don't talk
about it. Good luck in that sense.
Or you don't say the words? Good luck.
Now, she has some thoughts on the, the pigs on the Targaryen
Islands. There she says, Sailors
superstitions abound here, will get a pig tattoo and a chicken
tattoo one on each foot because they believed.
If swept overboard pigs and chickens can sense where the
nearest land is and swim that way, let's not kid ourselves
pigs and chickens can drown. But apparently these pigs on
these islands were either put their or swam ashore from
sinking ships in the vicinity in the 1500s, the Spanish dropped
pigs off. Island known as Mona between the
Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico in the body of water known
as the Mona. Passage the English settlers
used a low-lying island across from Jamestown Island in
Virginia. For the same purpose that island
is now called Hog Island, Wildlife Refuge, and she also
adds, she's heard that pigs will turn wild in less than three
Generation. All right a couple more factoids
here, the dynamic of the sunchaser, continuing on while
sir. Eustace turns back after
witnessing, the third ship go down.
She says that almost the exact same thing happened on Martin
frobisher's first, Voyage to the Arctic in 1576 quote, not far
from sight of Greenland, he lost company of his small ship, which
by means of the great storm. He supposed to be swallowed up
of the sea, we're in frobisher Lost only for men.
Also the other bark name, the Michael mistrusting, the matter,
conveyed themselves, privily away from him and returned home
with great report that he was cast away, huh?
So that is from the Voyages of Elizabeth Seaman Elizabethan.
Seaman selected, narratives, Oxford, Elizabeth semen.
See what remember? Hey that's actually pretty funny
because there's that weird long-standing historical like
tinfoil theory. That Elizabeth was a man which
is a bizarre Theory but it's persistent and and easily
debunked. But hey, I just accidentally
referred to it. Here's another cool anecdote.
She gives us also on Sir Francis Drake circumnavigation AKA F the
Spanish, for real. This Voyage is Bonkers.
They start with three ships, then they steal some on the way
south and they use those to steal and Rob others in the
process. Get those banged up.
Up, they abandoned some by the time they get to the Straits of
Magellan their back down to three the smaller one, the
marigold goes down in a crazy storm.
The second shift, the Elizabeth loses sight of Drake, and just
gives up and goes back home and leaving Drake on his own board,
the Pelican whose name, he just changed to the Golden Hind.
And apparently it's bad luck to rename a ship.
She types that in all caps, I'm going to say a couple other
things in reference to some of this because I'm a big fan of
Sir, Francis Drake Story and there's a podcast I've
referenced before called the pirate History podcast.
I think is a great, great detail, and we are patrons of
that show. In fact, and he talks about Sir,
Francis Drake quite a lot. In addition to, a lot of other
famous Mariners of the Caribbean.
And eventually, he talks about some, some pirates in the
Mediterranean as well. The Barbary Pirates and a lot of
these really amazing Stories. So I've given them a shout out
before but it's been probably a couple years so it's a good time
to bring that up. Again, if you're into this
nautical stuff, there's a lot of attention to detail with regards
to that with regards to sailing and ship.
Ships and sailors attitude. Just not just about the, the
piracy and all that, all those things work together.
One more anecdote from this letter.
It's pretty cool whale strikes. Sadly, this happens a lot.
I was really happy to share brought up the whaleship Essex
that is in the book in the heart of the Sea.
By Nathaniel philbrick, it's mentioned how aggressive /
protective male sperm whales called, Bulls can be toward
ships even now in modern days, they sometimes attack fishing
trawlers. Here is an account from
frobisher's second voyage in 1578, this same day, the
salamander being under both her courses and bonnets.
Our sales and extensions have been to strike a great whale
with her full stem with such a blow that the ship Stood Still
and stirred neither forward nor backward.
The whale threat made a great and ugly noise and cast up his
whole body and tail. And so went under the water.
Oh, sorry. The whale there at made a great
and ugly noise anyway. Yeah, sometimes these old, these
old style writing versions of English are hard to read.
So, that's really amazing. And by the way, Francis Drake's
nickname was Elder. Yakko as in the dragon little
footnote there for you. Okay.
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