1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,120 Welcome to the Choose Hard podcast, the one and only 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,400 fitness and nutrition podcast that goes way beyond just 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,720 training in nutrition and helps you transform your body and your 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,640 mind. I'm your host, Cody Mcbroom, and 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,760 obviously my job with this podcast is to help you choose 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,880 hard so that you can grow as an individual. 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,640 You can challenge your mind, challenge your body and 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,040 transform. But it is also my job to bring 9 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:21,640 leading experts in different topics and industries to help 10 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,880 guide you and educate you so that you can stop just listening 11 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,760 and following to the information you read and see online 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,800 anywhere, and you can actually investigate, educate and 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,720 experience yourself. And when you do this, you are 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,800 empowered to actually take control of your life and make 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,080 decisions that are going to help you grow and be more successful. 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,840 And so today I dove into one of the topics that has been 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,280 probably one of the most commonly asked and requested 18 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,680 topics for me to do a podcast on and that is peptides. 19 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,600 And So what did I do? I went and found the leading 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,000 expert in the world on peptides. This guy has read some of the 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,280 top and most well known books in the entire world when it comes 22 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,080 to both hormones and peptides. He also owns a company called 23 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,640 Bio Longevity Labs that actually produces and cells peptides for 24 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,480 you to improve your healing properties, to improve your 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,680 optimization and longevity and improve your performance. 26 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,320 So we're going to cover all three of those categories. 27 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:11,160 We're going to show you how peptides can help you heal your 28 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,160 body, whether we're talking about joints, ligaments, 29 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,200 injuries, tears, or even gut health. 30 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,360 We're going to dive into optimization and show you how 31 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,520 they can help you improve your health and live a longer, 32 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,480 healthier life. And we're going to show you how 33 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,880 they can build more muscle, lose more fat, and improve your 34 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,800 performance in and out of the gym. 35 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,040 This podcast dives so deep. I want you to listen closely. 36 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,680 You might have to go back a little, but you might even have 37 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,200 to slow the speed down because we went off. 38 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,440 I couldn't believe how much information we packed into this 39 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,560 one hour podcast. So listen in and as the podcast 40 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,840 unfold, you're going to see us get pretty hyped up and excited 41 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,280 about this topic about 1/4 of the way in and then it just 42 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,520 starts unraveling. Really listen in, take notes, 43 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,560 study this material. I think it's going to be so 44 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,320 helpful for you. This is one of the the topics in 45 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,520 the industry that is growing and it's growing for a reason 46 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,400 because this can change people's lives for the long haul. 47 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Now I want to also mention that because Jay owns Bio Longevity 48 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,080 Labs and you can actually get peptides that are produced in 49 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,000 America from his company, we're going to leave a show note, 50 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,720 discount code in the description. 51 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,919 So just check the description. You can click that link. 52 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,920 You can put in the promo code to save some money on a peptide 53 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:14,520 order if you feel like you need peptides and if not, check out 54 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,600 his content. Check out this podcast, ask me 55 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,280 questions. You can e-mail me find out if 56 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,920 peptides are right for you and then go that route. 57 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,600 But either way, I want to leave a note in here in this intro to 58 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,880 let you know that there is a discount code for you when 59 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,040 ordering peptides yourself. Now, without any further ado, 60 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,960 let's get into this jam packed informative episode on peptides 61 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,720 sides with the one and only Jay Campbell. 62 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,080 The greatest things in life all start with. 63 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,280 A challenge you. Must accept that everything is 64 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,000 hard before it gets easy. Every, every, every, everything 65 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,080 you want in life begins with a hard path. 66 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,720 All right, Jay, I'm excited about this, man. 67 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,280 I have had countless people, I'm not exaggerating. 68 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Countless people request content done on peptides. 69 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,080 More content on peptides. People want to know more about 70 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,600 it. It is a very hot topic right 71 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,880 now, a lot of conversation around it. 72 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:05,720 So selfishly I'm excited to chat with you. 73 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,200 I have dabbled little bit. I'm way more familiar with HRT, 74 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,720 TRT, stuff like that. But I think peptides is 75 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,320 something that is growing so quickly and there's just so much 76 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,600 information out there that can be unpacked. 77 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,680 So I'm excited to talk to an expert like yourself on this 78 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 topic. But before we get into that 79 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,320 rabbit hole and start diving through, fill the audience in 80 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,920 with who is Jay Campbell in a nutshell and and what got you 81 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,040 off on this peptide journey? Like what started your process 82 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,480 and journey and interest in peptides? 83 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,400 Sure. So First off, my name is Jay 84 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,880 Campbell. I'm 54 years old. 85 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,880 I was the guy that wrote the number one selling book of all 86 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,280 time on hormone optimization. So if you want to go down that 87 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,800 path, I can talk about that better than 99.99999% of people 88 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,880 on the planet. So if you want to go down that 89 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,080 path, we can. And then I wrote the second best 90 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,160 selling book in the history of the world on testosterone 91 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,960 optimization. So I mean, honestly, my Internet 92 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,080 claim to fame is on hormones. But at the same time that I was 93 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,000 learning about hormones 26 years ago, I was also learning about 94 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,080 peptides. When I tell people I've been 95 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,800 using peptides since 2004, they kind of say that's bull. 96 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,520 There's no way, bro. What do you talk about? 97 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,600 And I'm like, Nah, bro. I mean, I've been on therapeutic 98 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,200 testosterone since 1998. So, you know, I started using 99 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,000 peptides in 2004. Really at the same time that I 100 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,519 was learning about using hormones, I was also learning 101 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:24,880 about peptides because at that time in the world there was no 102 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,120 books. The Internet was in its infancy. 103 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,400 The signal to noise ratio on the Internet was insane. 104 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,280 There was no noise. It was only signal. 105 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Nowadays mostly noise. In fact, 95% of people that talk 106 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,520 about peptides, no, no, not don't have a clue about anything 107 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,360 about peptides. They literally listen to people 108 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,440 like me or read my book or talk about listen to me and 109 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,040 regurgitate me. And it's not just me. 110 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,760 There's other people that are smart about peptides, but it's 111 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,920 insane. Like the whole peptide space is 112 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,880 right now is is laughing stock because there's so many idiots 113 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,600 talking about peptides. There's people out there selling 114 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,440 plant based peptides. I mean, it's so insane that 115 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,120 like, you know, me and my inner circle, we laugh about it every 116 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,320 day because we're like, how could it have gotten to this 117 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,120 when just three years ago the average person on the street 118 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,400 didn't even know what a peptide was? 119 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,040 You know what I mean? Like I've been in this space, 120 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,760 like I said, since using them since 2004, in the space like 121 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,160 the research chemical space since like 2012. 122 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:22,480 And truthfully, Cody, I never wanted to get into the space 123 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,880 like I have now because it was a Gray area. 124 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,080 I mean, it was never illegal. It's not illegal. 125 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,520 I'd like to make that as a clarification, but it's not FDA 126 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,440 approved, it's not clinical, so to speak. 127 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,320 So you know, there's like, it's a, it's a weird market, put it 128 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,760 that way. The research space, I mean, 129 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,560 obviously most people realize that if you purchase research 130 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,240 based peptides to research on yourself or your hamster or your 131 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,600 lab rat or whatever, it's legal, but it's not FDA approved. 132 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,320 You know, doctors are not buying their peptides from research 133 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,120 chemical companies. So the whole white market is 134 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,320 very, very Gray. And so I always just kind of 135 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,960 stayed out of it because I was like, you know, I don't really 136 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,120 want to be involved in something like that. 137 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,520 But then obviously, you know, RFK came into the marketplace, 138 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,120 started to talk about peptides. People needed to heal from the 139 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,960 vaccine, you know, started to talk about peptides. 140 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,160 And so really in the last two years, we've had this like 141 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,360 renaissance in the mainstream where now everyone's talking 142 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,920 about peptides. And that's why I was telling you 143 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,200 that like the average person that talks about peptides and 144 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,600 tries to coach people on peptides has been using them for 145 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,560 six months, you know what I mean? 146 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,240 So it's like it's become like a joke. 147 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,000 And that's, you know, you know, unfortunately that's the problem 148 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,200 for most people because they think the peptides are magic 149 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,640 bullets. And we can talk about all that 150 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,880 in this podcast and go down the rabbit hole with you and stuff, 151 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,840 but it's sad because there's really, unfortunately, there's 152 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:44,000 not enough. The signal is way less than the 153 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,840 noise when it comes to talking about peptides. 154 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,960 So just to provide context for anybody who maybe doesn't fully 155 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,320 understand what a, you know, what peptides are, can can you 156 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,680 give me the definition like the, let's try like the science base, 157 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,280 like the, you know. Yeah, I mean basically of. 158 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,720 The peptide and then also like what you use them for. 159 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,120 What kind of people actually need these? 160 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,800 Sure. So I mean, peptides are 161 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,800 basically signaling molecules. They're fractionated proteins. 162 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,680 The difference between an injectable peptide and an oral 163 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,840 peptide is the length of the of the chain. 164 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,800 So short chain protein molecules or amino acid profiles are oral 165 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,040 based peptides and injectable base which are the most highest 166 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,320 impact delivery system and most that people know about are 167 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,120 longer chains. And so they're found organically 168 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,160 in the human body. Obviously they are synthesized 169 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,440 by a chemist in a laboratory to be used for, you know, many but 170 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,640 many different purposes. There's probably about 53 171 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,960 peptides right now, you know, in circulation that people are 172 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,840 familiar with, you know, the scientific industry, the medical 173 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,880 industry, clinical industry, the research industry. 174 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,280 But there's thousands of peptides that could be used that 175 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,480 we just haven't brought them into the marketplace, you know, 176 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,000 from a synthesization standpoint. 177 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,720 So very, very interesting thing though, because when you look at 178 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,040 petroleum distillate medications, which is what comes 179 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,720 from big Pharma, when they break down in the body and the, and at 180 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,320 the tissue level, they create side effects. 181 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Because again, petroleum distillate, which is, you know, 182 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,480 an oil residue inside the body or inside the cells as it breaks 183 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,440 down causes other chain reactions and, and technically 184 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,080 side effects. Whereas with peptides. 185 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,080 And then if you want to go deeper, bio regulators which 186 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,800 come from Russia, which are a form of peptides, when they're 187 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,160 in the human body, they do not 'cause side effects because when 188 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,280 they break down, they just break down into inert substances and 189 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,600 those substances are just used by the body or excreted by the 190 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,400 body. So you have a lot greater 191 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,880 impact, I would say from using peptides or by regulators in 192 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,520 that a lot of lot of them are tissue specific. 193 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,760 So they work or target like 1 biological system or one organ 194 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,880 system. And they don't when they break 195 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,840 down, leave any kind of residue or you know, anything behind 196 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,240 that would cause other issues. If you look at, you know, big 197 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Pharma today, like majority of medications that are sold in the 198 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,400 marketplace are actually to cover up the side effects or the 199 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,520 problems systemically that are caused by the other medications 200 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,520 that are people taking, right? So you've got like 60 to 70 year 201 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,600 old people have been on medications for 20 years and a 202 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,080 lot of the medications they take are to cover the side effects of 203 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,000 the other medications. So it's insane, you know, how 204 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,200 big pharma works that thing. But you would never have that 205 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,280 issue with peptides. So first question on all this, 206 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:27,000 is there is there a difference inside of regarding benefits to 207 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,760 injectable versus oral peptides? When I think peptides, I've just 208 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,680 always thought of injectable. Do injectable typically work 209 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:35,520 better or is it more peptide specific? 210 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,640 So it's a good question. The highest impact delivery 211 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,000 system for any peptide is always injectable. 212 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,960 And the reason that is, is because it crosses the blood 213 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,640 brain barrier fastest and also gets into portal circulation 214 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,000 fastest. In fact, whenever you inject any 215 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,240 kind of substance or a pharmaceutical drug, peptide by 216 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,240 a regulator, whatever, insulin, because it gets into portal 217 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,240 circulation fastest, it's always going to be most effective and 218 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,440 that's why it's the highest impact. 219 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,280 But there are peptides that can be taken intranasally in a mist, 220 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,240 inhaled transdermally, you know, in a cream or in a serum. 221 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,000 And then obviously you can also take some that are oral, oral 222 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,480 peptides by and large, and this technology is actually improving 223 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,160 in the marketplace. So this will eventually change. 224 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,280 But oral peptides by and large are only effective in the gut. 225 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,360 So you know, because of first pass, you know, most medications 226 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,800 they have to go through the small intestine, large intestine 227 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,800 and the liver peptides again being aqueous. 228 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,760 And once they get in, they're going to be broken down after 229 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,160 they get into the stomach pretty much by the small intestine or 230 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,040 large intestine. So they're not, they're going to 231 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,720 eventually not be as effective once they get through there. 232 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,440 So that's why you're going to say like most oral peptides work 233 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,960 in the gut or the microbiome much more efficiently than they 234 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,000 would, for example, like in your shoulder, right? 235 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,520 So let's say for example, somebody got injured in their 236 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,040 shoulder, they had a, you know, spraying a tear, a ligament tear 237 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,800 or something like that, and they wanted to inject BPC or TB500, 238 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,280 like right up in the top shoulder cap. 239 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,680 They would get much better effect than they would if they 240 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:06,640 were taking an oral version of BPC. 241 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,160 But the oral. Version of BPCS do exist, like 242 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,320 we sell them, but they're mostly targeting issues people have in 243 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,880 the gut or in the microbiome, like SIBO, you know, 244 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:21,200 inflammation basically, you know, any kind of other like the 245 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,440 pathogenic or virolytic virogenic response in the 246 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,640 stomach, you can use certain peptides to attack that. 247 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,760 Can you explain in as simple as terms as possible? 248 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,080 Really like what, how a peptide is made. 249 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,480 Obviously it's made by a chemist in the lab. 250 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,360 But you know, I think when we think hormones it's, it's a 251 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,200 little bit easier 'cause it's a, it's a synthetic hormone. 252 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,160 We know what testosterone is. We know that it's a 253 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,880 synthetically made version of testosterone that you inject 254 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,560 when you were insufficient with natural, by the way. 255 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,080 Do you know how they make testosterone? 256 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,960 I do not. It's a trivial question. 257 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,680 It's from yams. That's how they make therapeutic 258 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:55,720 testosterone. Yeah. 259 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,360 So all the all the oil based injectable testosterones, which 260 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,920 obviously there's multiple formats propionate stipulate and 261 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,720 they you know, then there's multiple esters. 262 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,240 But yeah, they use yams to make, to make synthetic or 263 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,560 bioidentical testosterone. But it's a good question. 264 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:13,640 I mean, again, it's essentially a sequence of amino acids. 265 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,760 That's how they're made. So again, like something like 266 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,640 BPC 157 is probably 15 to 20 chain amino acids length versus 267 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,120 its oral form version, which is like 5-4 or five, right? 268 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,280 But again, same molecule just made differently based on like 269 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,960 how long the half life is and how long it'll stay bio active 270 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,600 in a human body after it's either injected or consumed. 271 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,400 And so are these amino acids currently present in the body? 272 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,000 Most of them, yes, most of them are in fact like BPC 157. 273 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,560 Let's just talk about that because most people know what 274 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:48,080 BPC 157 is like. The most well known peptide in 275 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,200 the world stands for body protective compound. 276 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:53,600 You make that in your human. It's made that like basically in 277 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,560 gastric. Juice. 278 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,280 So it's just, it's just in gastric juice. 279 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,440 So you know, obviously our salivary enzymes, our digestive 280 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,520 enzymes and they just can sequence in that from a human 281 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,240 cell and then obviously make that into a injectable format 282 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,880 for for injection or for research. 283 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:14,360 So are they taking cells in things that the body already 284 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,120 makes in creating them in larger quantities that we don't produce 285 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,760 that large of a quantity in, so that we. 286 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,680 Yeah, that's how peptides are made exactly. 287 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,520 And what can somebody, and I want to ask this specifically 288 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,640 about BPC 157, just because sometimes it almost seems like 289 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,400 a, and maybe it is a wonder drug, right? 290 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,560 It's like this, this amazing magical healing drug essentially 291 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,800 like what is it actually doing? What is that? 292 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,120 Because you said for the gut, but also I have people using it 293 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,120 for joints or tendons, ligaments, like what is this 294 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,000 actually doing for us? So. 295 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,880 BBC 157 again body protective compound 157 is actually 296 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,040 increasing what is known as angiogenesis and angiogenesis is 297 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,120 the increase in red blood cells and. 298 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:59,840 Lymph and basically all the soft tissue, you know, fluid, IGF, 299 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,920 all the stuff that comes when you're healing. 300 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,640 So essentially if you get a cut or a wound or a ligament air or 301 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,880 a sprain or a strain, the body has natural systems which I 302 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,640 don't want to go down that. Rabbit hole because it's too 303 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,280 technical for most people, but it has natural healing systems 304 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,880 and basically injecting BPC into a local area where the injury 305 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,960 is. Is accelerating the healing, 306 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,520 right? So like you were saying, it's 307 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,480 like a wonder drug. I mean we call it The Wolverine 308 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,560 healing protocol. If you use BPC 157 combined with 309 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,360 TB500, which is thymus and beta 500, you get massive 310 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,040 inflammation suppression or accelerated inflammation 311 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,960 suppression and increased healing from the increased 312 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,160 angiogenesis that BPC provides. So most people can heal 313 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,200 somewhere between 7 to 10 times faster using a combination of 314 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,400 BPC 157 and TV 500. Now there's other peptides that 315 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,800 you can add into that stack that even make it faster, like copper 316 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,680 peptide GHKCU, which is, you know, basically a bluish 317 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,160 purplish tinted. Peptide, when it's injected, you 318 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,640 can also use a transdermally, you can also use a serum in your 319 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,080 scalp to regrow hair. Very, very powerful angiogenic 320 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,640 peptide. You can throw that into that 321 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,320 mix. And then the newest one on the 322 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,720 market that very few people know about, like less than maybe 1% 323 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,240 of the world is a peptide out of Russia called Cardilacs. 324 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:18,760 And Cardilacs is repairing just like it sounds cartilage better 325 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,000 than anything else. So like one of the newest blends 326 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,720 that my company is manufacturing and it's not even in the 327 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,640 marketplace yet, it will be probably hopefully for my 328 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:32,120 Memorial Day is TBBPCGHKCU and Cardilacs together. 329 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,520 And that combination of those 4 peptides and, and technically 330 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,760 Cardilacs is a bio regulator, but just not to get too 331 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,880 technical, bioregulars are a form of peptides. 332 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,920 They're just smaller chain. But all four of those together 333 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,520 will accelerate healing at least 10X. 334 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,240 And my guess is it'll be somewhere between 12 to 15X. 335 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Now, the one thing it won't do, and again, this depends on the 336 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,840 healing capability of the individual and their genetics 337 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,040 and you know, their epigenetic factors and all that kind of 338 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,720 stuff. But it most likely will not like 339 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,240 stimulate bone growth. So it's not going to, it's not 340 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,200 going to increase or accelerate the healing of bone. 341 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,480 But for soft tissue it will be, it'll be 11:50 to 15 acts. 342 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,320 It'll be insane. Like right now, the people that 343 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,160 are using cartilacs that you know that because it's very new 344 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,960 that people are using this. But the report so far is like, 345 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,280 it's incredible. Like it literally does help to 346 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,760 regrow and regenerate the nerve fiber bundles around cartilage. 347 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,960 So like older people are going to love that product because of, 348 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,480 you know, wear and tear is getting older. 349 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,600 When you're in your 40s, fifties and 60s and you're training, you 350 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,120 get a lot of wear and tear. I mean, I'm 54, so I know 351 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,880 cartilacs is going to be that like Ultimate bioregular 352 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,280 injectable bioregulator to like get rid of wear and tear or or 353 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,160 eliminate or alleviate a lot of wear and tear. 354 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Stuff. Would this be applicable to say 355 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,560 somebody tears a their meniscus, A labrum, like one of these, 356 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,000 kind of like a pad, like, you know, cartilage in between the 357 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,240 two joints instead of having surgery? 358 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,520 I mean, I've had two meniscus surgeries, for example, and like 359 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,080 they didn't have this bad. The last surgery I had was in 360 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,119 2018, I think it was. So it's been a while, but like 361 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,400 I'm thinking back then, instead of having surgery, is this 362 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,520 something that you can actually inject into the area and 363 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 potentially depending on how big the tear is? 364 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:14,200 So dude, it's an amazing question. 365 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,040 So the answer is yes, potentially, for sure. 366 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,040 In fact, like I just was on a podcast talking about this. 367 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,280 If you're an orthopedic surgeon, you now have a dilemma because 368 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,680 the system is set up to pay you a lot of money to perform an ACL 369 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,680 reconstruction or a delt reconstruction or a meniscus or 370 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,440 PCL or you know, on and on it goes. 371 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,000 All these major joints and they tear, Achilles tendon rupture. 372 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,400 But if you're aware about peptides and bioregulators. 373 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:47,760 And of course, we'd have to add. PRP and stem cells and all these 374 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,840 other things that are now out there, even what is it, 375 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,160 lactopheresis, I mean, there's all these new things that are 376 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,760 that are being done like offshore, you know, because 377 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,760 they're not technically legal in the United States according to 378 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,760 the FDA. But all of those things are so 379 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,320 profound from a healing standpoint. 380 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,720 Again, soft tissue, not bone. Soft tissue, tendon, ligament. 381 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,080 That it is a question and I would tell you that if you were 382 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,280 45 or older. Because I understand, you know, 383 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,000 the strength, the tensile strength of a muscle or, or a 384 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,080 tendon or a ligament at that age versus like if you were 18, in 385 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,000 your 20s, early 20s, you would definitely not want to have the 386 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,680 replacement surgery anymore because they're not going to be 387 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,800 able to strengthen the tensile strength of that joint or that 388 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,240 ligament at your age versus what they could do rebuilding it, re 389 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,280 grafting it, you know, reattaching it if you were in 390 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,560 your late teens and early 20s. So it is becoming a moral 391 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,520 dilemma. Because if you're an orthopedic 392 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,800 surgeon, right, and you order an ACL reconstruction for a 52 year 393 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,080 old woman who's, you know, tears or ACL skiing downhill, you make 394 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,520 40 or 50K off that the insurance agency makes. 60 grand or 55 395 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,880 grand because I mean, these things are $100,000 billable 396 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,520 surgeries versus if you just write them a script for BPC, 397 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,960 TB500, GHK and Cardilacs, that's 6 or 700 bucks. 398 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Likely, you know they're going to heal just as well. 399 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,640 With that naturally over time than they would if you did that 400 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,320 surgery. So it's getting really weird and 401 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,720 there are some really smart orthopedic surgeons out there. 402 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,080 I'll give one name shout out Doctor Elizabeth the earth at 403 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Mile High in Denver. She works on a lot of pro 404 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,640 athletes. There's a lot of replacement. 405 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,880 Surgeries and I just have conversations with her all the 406 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,840 time about this and she says it's becoming tougher and 407 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,600 tougher for me to leg recommend these surgeries to older people 408 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,840 because again, it's they're not going to heal any better. 409 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,760 Than they would with a 5 or $600.00 peptide, you know, 410 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,920 prescription, yeah. Do do you believe that, You 411 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,960 know, because one of the things I've thought a lot about is, I 412 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,840 mean, between peptides, HRT, stem cells, there's all of these 413 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,320 things that are disposal now that are being created that can 414 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,520 essentially create like an, A body armor in just this 415 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,760 longevity machine and everything that we want. 416 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:00,280 But it's frowned upon or you got to go out of the country to get 417 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,040 stem cells and you and like people look at HRT and 418 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,080 especially testosterone, things like that as if it's this 419 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,080 negative thing when birth control is a kind of the same 420 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,720 kind of idea or thyroid medication is very acceptable. 421 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,680 But as soon as you optimize now it's looked at like a steroid. 422 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:18,000 Do you think it stems from this loss of money that the 423 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,640 government and big pharma and medical facilities will actually 424 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,440 have? Is that really what's probably 425 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,680 preventing? Because it doesn't seem like 426 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,600 there's anything dangerous about 99% of this stuff. 427 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,600 Yeah, I mean, it's a great question, man. 428 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,200 You asked really good questions. Great job. 429 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,120 I mean, I mean, truthfully, I think the answer is yes. 430 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,880 I think that the normies, you know, I mean, look, I've been, 431 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:39,320 I've been promoting it like this. 432 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,560 I know we just met today, but like I've been saying this for 433 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,200 five or six years. There's two different forms of 434 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,480 healthcare now, right? Like there's the optimization 435 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,040 healthcare. Plan and that comes cash pay out 436 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,800 of your pocket. You know, you're not, you're not 437 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,120 going to get that from your general garden variety family 438 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,760 doctor or PPO doctor or HMO doctor, right? 439 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Like those guys, It's like $50 copay and then you get what you 440 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,160 get. And obviously what you get is 441 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,000 not optimization. You know, I always tell people 442 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 like, if you want to do something funny, go down to your 443 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,040 family doctor or your PPO doctor and say, Hey, doc, I want you to 444 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:13,760 tell me what to do to live to 125. 445 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,320 They'll look at you and be like. What the fuck? 446 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,760 Talk about, you know what I'm saying? 447 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,720 They'll be like, are you sick? Open up, open up your mouth and 448 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,440 say, ah, you know what I mean? Like they're literally stewards 449 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,480 of sick care and illness medicine. 450 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,280 They're not here to optimize you. 451 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,840 They're not pouring through your medical records to see how they 452 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,600 can make you live. Longer and stronger. 453 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,440 So like you as an individual, you have to take that decision, 454 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,880 you know, into your hands and become what I call the proactive 455 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,440 scientist of your own health. And if you do do that, then 456 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,320 you're very, very unlikely to ever go to a regular doctor 457 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,640 unless your gut shot, you're in a horrible crash, you have 458 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,160 shrapnel, you're bleeding out, and you need to be surgically 459 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,080 sutured and and put back together. 460 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,040 You're not going to go to these people, right? 461 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,120 So if you are like that, and obviously I would assume that 462 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:01,080 you are, I know I am. You know my circle. 463 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,160 Is, you know, you have like a health optimization Dr. right? 464 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,240 You have a doctor that writes your script for hormones, write 465 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,720 your scripts for peptides, write your script for PRP. 466 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:11,480 Maybe even more experimental things that you do. 467 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,120 And that's what you do, right? But even those people are 468 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,040 taking, taking stuff into their own hand. 469 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,000 They they order their own labs. I mean I get my labs done at 470 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,960 least once a year and sometimes if I start doing other things. 471 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,040 I'll do 2 labs a year right? Like I have a a deal with a lab 472 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,440 company. Private empty labs. 473 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,400 People can go there. I have 4 different lab profiles 474 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,600 set up. You know, basic. 475 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,040 For people that don't have a lot of money all the way up to 476 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,120 elite, which costs $2000 to get your labs done, but you see 477 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,280 everything right? Like it's a deepest dive under 478 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,520 the hood and you understand, like all your risk factors, your 479 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,600 inflammatory markers, etcetera. So it really just comes down to 480 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,720 the individual. But your answer or your question 481 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,240 and your answer is right. The system doesn't want healthy 482 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,120 people. You know, I had a very, very 483 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:55,920 intelligent mentor, very famous surgeon. 484 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,720 He doesn't like to be known that he he mentored me, but he helped 485 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,560 me with my books. You know who he is? 486 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,120 He's a famous guy. And he told me in 2014 that he 487 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,960 said if metformin and growth hormone were in the water 488 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,840 supply, there wouldn't be any hospitals or emergency rooms 489 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,960 because there would be nobody sick. 490 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,320 You know what I'm saying? So it's like the the truth is, 491 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,200 is that you individually and the people listening to this 492 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,440 audience and, you know, watching this has to take matters into 493 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,760 their own hands because you're not going to get any kind of 494 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,000 optimization. Healthcare. 495 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,880 That's what I call it, you know? If you just rely on them to help 496 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,760 you, it's you got to seek people out. 497 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,000 You got to listen to podcasts like this, you got to go on 498 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,280 YouTube or Instagram and, you know, find doctors and find the 499 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,560 longevity medicine people that truly are into exploring how 500 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,360 long how how, how long and how strong you can live. 501 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,720 And honestly, Cody, like, I believe this. 502 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,240 I mean, I don't even believe it. I know it. 503 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,600 I don't use that word, but I think that anyone who does the 504 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,040 right things and avoids, you know, the probabilities of 505 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,720 getting hit by a bus or in a car crash or something like that, I 506 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,760 think you can live to 150 no problem. 507 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,400 I mean, when I look at boomers right now and you know, 508 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,040 obviously my dad will turn 80 this year, he doesn't know the 509 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,360 first thing he and by the way, he's a multi millionaire, highly 510 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,320 intelligent, educated guy. He's retired. 511 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,800 My mom, God rest her soul, died two years ago of COVID. 512 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:20,280 But you know, he doesn't have the first clue about nutrition. 513 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,640 He doesn't use testosterone, he thinks I'm a drug dealer. 514 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,560 I mean, he, he has no clue like who I am in this world. 515 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,840 And all the people that I've helped. 516 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,360 And I mean, I've helped hundreds of thousands of people and, and 517 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,480 they live in a different world than you and I live in. 518 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,480 But if you live in the world that you and I live in and you 519 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,520 understand all these things and you already mentioned it, like 520 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,920 therapeutic testosterone, you know, growth hormone, agonist 521 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,640 peptides, human growth hormone and micro doses, GLP, one 522 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,560 peptides, I mean, all these amazing tools that we now have 523 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,600 at our disposal, all of them improve lifestyle markers, they 524 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,640 improve longevity markers, they lower biological age. 525 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,920 There's absolutely no reason, again, if you can avoid getting 526 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,000 hit by a bus or a plane crash or just some random thing that you 527 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,800 can't live into your one 20s, one 30s, one 40s and be robust 528 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,520 and be vigorous. It's just we haven't seen that 529 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,800 yet because of our generation, which, you know, I call myself 530 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,760 the Gen. X generation in your generation. 531 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,480 We're going to be the first generation that's going to be 532 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,520 living to that long as long as we don't blow ourselves up. 533 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,040 And, you know, that's a coin flip, right? 534 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,760 I mean, that's a possibility. But I really do think that there 535 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,880 would be people from our generation right now, 40s, 536 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,880 fifties and even early 60s who are doing all the right things, 537 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,640 who are going to live at least into their one 20s, one 30s and 538 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,800 not be, you know, tepid and bent over at the spine. 539 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,600 And you know, pop, you know all the issues you see with boomers 540 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,080 today. Yeah, and you know, 541 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,120 unfortunately there's just not enough people that I think it's 542 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:45,800 getting better, but there's not enough people seeking out 543 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,960 information for themselves instead of just listening and 544 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,160 following. And I mean, I, I had a, that's 545 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,680 why I love doing this podcast. I had a conversation just 546 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,200 literally a couple days ago with my dad and he brought up, he's 547 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,720 not on testosterone. He brought up testosterone. 548 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,600 He's like, but I know, like I was told, you know, that's it's 549 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,960 probably going to give me a stroke, so I don't. 550 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,160 Want to do that? I'm just like, exactly, hold on 551 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,800 dude. My dad thinks it's cheating. 552 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,840 My dad thinks it's cheating and unethical. 553 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,960 Can you imagine how brainwashed that generation of people is? 554 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,720 Yeah, unless you're an NFL player and you literally can't 555 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,360 take something because then you can't play. 556 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,160 There's no cheating here. There's no. 557 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,440 Cheating. Oh, but trust me, they're on. 558 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,000 Oh, for sure. Absolutely. 559 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,320 They just know how to get around it. 560 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,040 They just know how to take the test. 561 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaking of which, I actually this is something that was on my 562 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,520 mind as you were kind of breaking some of this down is 563 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,280 and I don't know if you have the answer, but maybe just what you 564 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,000 think it might be. Where was, you know, especially 565 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,280 peptides, where were they first sought out or tested or, or 566 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,160 'cause I'm just thinking of like, man, was this something 567 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,200 like in military soldiers or is this like athletes or like, who 568 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,000 was the first specimen to be like, I'm using this 'cause I'm 569 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 going to get ahead of the competition? 570 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,040 Or was it completely opposite of that? 571 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,200 No, dude, the Russians, the Russians and the Bulgarians. 572 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,840 So the Russians and the Bulgarians have been using 573 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,000 peptides, no lie, since the 40s, late 40s, early 50s. 574 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,120 And all of this stuff was, you know, again, when we had the 575 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:09,880 whole fake Cold War, you know, I mean, don't even get me going. 576 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,080 I could go down so many rabbit holes. 577 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,240 But like all of that, you know, Eastern, Western bloc, the 578 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,960 Russians were using all sorts of stuff. 579 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480 I mean, there's a reason the Russian athletes, when you see 580 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,240 them like the women and the men, you know, in the like in the 581 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,120 games, let's just call it the Olympic Games. 582 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,280 And there were other games, but like in the Seventies, 80s and 583 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,360 90s when you saw them and you saw a lot, you're like, what's 584 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,960 going on? You know what I mean? 585 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,800 Like these guys are all on testosterone, they're all on, 586 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,200 again, bio regulators, which are a form of peptides. 587 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,200 I mean, they were on everything that they could be on blood 588 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,800 doping, growth hormone, I mean, you name it, right? 589 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,240 So it's like there's 60 years of research with peptides and bio 590 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,960 regulators. You just have to use AI to 591 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,240 translate Bulgarian and Russian textbooks and manuals and and 592 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,320 peer review to see this stuff, right? 593 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,440 So, but they've been using this stuff for a long time. 594 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,480 And then like I said, like even in the underground performance 595 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,720 enhancement community, bodybuilding community, that 596 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,800 stuff like, you know, people have been using peptide since 597 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,840 the early 2000s. I mean, I started using HEPA 598 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560 Marilyn in 2004. And I had only been using 599 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,000 therapeutic testosterone for five years previous to that. 600 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,240 So it was just, you know, filling it out and, or feeling 601 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,200 it out and learning. And, and again, back then there 602 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,080 were no books, dude. You know, therapeutic 603 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,920 testosterone wasn't prescribed unless you were really lucky. 604 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,280 And how I got it prescribed was I ran into a Harvard educated 605 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,720 endocrinologist in Southern California. 606 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,480 And it was, as I always say, there's no coincidences, only 607 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,480 synchronicities, you know, because me meeting him led me to 608 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,040 write all these books and do all the things I've done for this to 609 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,640 advance this into the world. But now, I mean, testosterone is 610 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,440 like on every corner. There's windmill clinics, you 611 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,360 know, most of the clinics, like I said that prescribed 612 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,400 testosterone have no earthly idea what they're doing. 613 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,360 Bro, when I say this, I'm not joking. 95% of doctors that 614 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,560 prescribe testosterone have no idea what they're doing. 615 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,720 They tell guys to take AIS. I mean, I'm telling you it's, 616 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,040 it's, it's getting worse. Like in 2017, 2018 and 2019, it 617 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,440 started to get better, but then COVID came and obviously as you 618 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,120 know, the Internet, the signal to noise ratio on the Internet 619 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,920 became insane and. All the bro science that we have 620 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,720 seemingly overcome about testosterone and estrogen and 621 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,080 all this stuff just came back in mass and now it's like out there 622 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,760 and you know, they're I mean, do they have clinics and compound 623 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,600 pharmacies making testosterone with a eyes compounded into the 624 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,400 medication? I mean aromatase inhibitor is 625 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,840 literally one of the most toxic drugs on the planet. 626 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,920 When you use an AI and you use it to take block your estrogen 627 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,480 or block your testosterone from converting through aromatase 628 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,640 into estrogen, you are literally shortening your lifespan. 629 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,760 That is clinically provable. It's insane that people do this, 630 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,440 but again, that's the average doctor. 631 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,040 They don't know. They don't teach doctors in 632 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,520 medical school how to optimize people's hormones. 633 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,480 It's insane. It is insane and it's, you know, 634 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,320 crazy enough. I so I'm on TRT and I was 635 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,200 prescribed the very general you. Know. 636 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,480 Unfortunately, it's very difficult to do research. 637 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760 I know more than most people. This is what I do for a living 638 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,680 and not on hormones to your level, but in this fitness and 639 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,400 nutrition industry, right? And there became a point where 640 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,520 I, I requested to change my prescription and they were 641 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,160 basically tried to say no. And then I showed them blood 642 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,280 work and then showed them that I still haven't taken any of the 643 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,520 aromatase inhibitors. Oh, and by the way, I started 644 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,400 micro dosing the TRT instead of saying of course you suggested. 645 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,760 And I basically just schooled the person that was providing me 646 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,680 with my medication and they were exactly. 647 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,120 OK. Well, yeah, we. 648 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,880 Can do it. That's what they say. 649 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,400 They're like, OK, sure, bro. Yeah. 650 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,280 Like. We can do it that way in. 651 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,920 A while and I'm like just I know what I I'm doing so this is 652 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,280 fine. But like, unfortunately, this is 653 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,440 this is the world and This is why I love, again, I love doing 654 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,000 content. I guess I love what guys like 655 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,240 you are doing because it gets information to people with, you 656 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,840 know, circling back to these just general information on 657 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,800 peptides. The way I kind of see this is 658 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,200 there's kind of like 3 categories as far as like 659 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,040 reasons to use peptides in it. I feel like there's healing or 660 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,680 recovery of some sort, there's optimization or longevity, and 661 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,760 then there's performance. And I think performance can be a 662 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,800 combination of those two things, right? 663 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,080 There's obviously fat loss, muscle growth, performance based 664 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,280 ones. So performance might be using 665 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,560 BPC and TB500 to improve injury so that you can get back on the 666 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,400 field faster, right? Or whatever it may be. 667 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,280 So there's obviously crossover. But with regards to these three 668 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,560 categories, what do you see as the most common reason? 669 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,560 So healing, is it a gut? Is it a joint? 670 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,720 Whatever? And what are the primary? 671 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,560 I know there's a lot of peptides, but just like the the 672 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,000 big hitters that are popular that people would probably ask 673 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,360 about in each. Yeah, so basically the way I 674 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,920 classify them and these are good questions. 675 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,040 Like I said, bro, you're doing a great job asking me questions. 676 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,600 It's hard. I do a lot, you know, and I 677 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,480 don't get a lot of great questions, but I appreciate what 678 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,560 I do, so thank you. But. 679 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,280 What when I classify peptides, I do it and and again, one of my 680 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,680 gifts is breaking things down that are very esoteric and 681 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,400 arcade into very relatable terms. 682 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,040 So it's like the easiest way for your listeners and anyone 683 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,760 listeners to hear this is like I have an issue with X. 684 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,520 What peptide attends to that, you know, condition? 685 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,760 Right. So like what you're saying? 686 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,240 So I like to look at them as like muscle building, fat 687 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,480 burning, cognitive enhancing, healing, what you said, which is 688 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,080 the biggest one for sure. And then you've got longevity, 689 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,880 right? So it's like there's technically 690 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,080 4. You could say healing and 691 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680 longevity are the same, you know, realistically because they 692 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,960 do obviously there's multiple applications, but let's just 693 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,280 start with healing. So the biggest? 694 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,880 Movers are we already talked about them BPC 157 TB 500 BPC 695 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,400 and increases angiogenesis so it speeds the rate of healing and 696 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,480 then TB 500 is the inflammation suppression. 697 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,320 Put them together, bam, massively speed the rate of 698 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,520 healing. Add in copper peptide GHKCU to 699 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,360 that mix and you'll even get faster healing. 700 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,840 Now copper peptide should be mentioned on its own because 701 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,240 it's also the rejuvenation peptide. 702 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,520 It's a hair regrowth and restoration peptide, so it does 703 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,120 a lot of thing. I like to call it the Shamwell 704 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,880 peptide because it does so many different things. 705 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,400 But women use copper peptide GHKCU for eliminating fine lines 706 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,040 and wrinkles. You know, rejuvenation. 707 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,400 Just. Improving skin elasticity and 708 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,280 tone and stuff like that. So that's a great one. 709 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,800 And then remember I mentioned you Cardil Axe, which is a new 710 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,760 one, but Cardil Axe is going to be a massive, massive like mover 711 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,120 and shaker peptide within the next six months as more and more 712 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,880 people find out about it because it's so profound. 713 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,120 And then I'll mention two other ones, Thymus and A1. 714 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,640 Thymus and A1 I use whenever I fly around. 715 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,720 I fly a lot, all right, fly around the world, fly 716 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,680 transcontinental. I inject it before I get off and 717 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,720 then I inject it when I get to my hotel room or my Airbnb when 718 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,040 I get home because it's a super powerful immunomodulator. 719 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,600 What that means is it improves immunity, right? 720 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,680 So like, you know, you're on these planes and God knows, 721 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,360 dude, but they're spraying on us to kill us, right? 722 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,720 So it's like you get on and off and it's like, man, I'm going to 723 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,280 inject some thymus and A1 because I want to enhance my 724 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,680 immunity. I want to prevent from getting 725 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,360 sick or illness. And honestly, dude, since I 726 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:07,120 started doing that in 2020, haven't got sick, no COVID, none 727 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,600 of the bullshit, you know, and I know that I was sprayed because 728 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,719 you know, dude, like when you're really sensitive and in tune 729 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,679 with what's going on, you know when they're spraying in the 730 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,840 plane because you just can feel it going to your throat. 731 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,800 And you're like, I don't want to get a sinus infection. 732 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,239 But that's a great one. There's some other ones I won't 733 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560 mention. I'll briefly mention LL 37 and 734 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,280 VIPVIP Staffs for vasinal intestinal peptide. 735 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,320 Those are super powerful, like knockout peptides if you get 736 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,560 really sick. Like if you get some bio weapon 737 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,960 bull you want LL 37 on hand because it's super anti 738 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,360 pathogenic, anti virogenic, antimicrobial. 739 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,239 I mean it'll knock out anything and kill it but you want to save 740 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,360 that like in in really bad situations. 741 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,520 And then Vasinal intestinal prep diet or VIP is a nasal inhaler. 742 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,880 You can also inject it but like if you get blocked in your sinus 743 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,160 from God knows what, you could literally inject that and it 744 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,480 massively opens your Airways. So that's an amazing peptide 745 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,480 along with LL37 to keep in your refrigerator, keep around your 746 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,440 house all the time in case they hit us with God knows what. 747 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,120 Moving out of healing will move into growth. 748 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,000 I mean fat loss and muscle building real. 749 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,080 Quick, I would love to add. I'm going to add something and 750 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,280 then I'm going to ask a question about the healing properties. 751 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,920 Just to add, if people listening, you know, again, this 752 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,440 all this is like most things in life, this all comes back down 753 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,880 to money and what they want to control. 754 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,160 Because even like you're talking about regenerating your skin and 755 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,040 getting wrinkles. OK, Well, there goes all the 756 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,440 people in the medical field that make a lot of money doing Botox. 757 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,040 Exactly. Hair, hair transplant, 758 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,160 surgeries, all these things that cost 10s of thousands of 759 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,160 dollars, like all these things boil back down to like it's 760 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,000 removing, it's putting the power and the control into the hands 761 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,520 of the person going through the issues and, and removing it from 762 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,560 the doctor or whoever else, which is crazy. 763 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,360 But the, the follow up question to those two is, is what, you 764 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,600 know, 'cause my mind is going to, especially with like the 765 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,840 tissue regrowth stuff, it's like obviously there's, you know, you 766 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,120 tear your CL, your meniscus, whatever, but also he got 767 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,120 syndrome or these different issues where you have internal 768 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,600 issues. This is obviously something that 769 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,320 could be helpful for that too. When you say it's speeding up 770 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,000 recovery, how fast are we talking? 771 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,080 Obviously I'm sure it's, you know, the magic is in the dose, 772 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,000 but just so people can understand the difference 773 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,840 between, well, you know, is it that much faster than having 774 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,880 surgery? You know, like. 775 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,400 Yeah, So I mean, like I said earlier, I mean, you know, 776 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,320 again, there's there's factors, right, like the young, the the 777 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,160 age of the cells, right. So younger person, healthier 778 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,080 person, less inflammation, less body fat, they're going to heal 779 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,720 at a faster, more accelerated rate than a, a, a non one of 780 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,160 those people. But it's 7 to 10 times faster, 781 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,400 right? So again, like the best way to 782 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,720 say it, like a 30 year old man or woman, good health fitness 783 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,400 train, have muscle or low body fat. 784 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,480 If they tear their distal bicep tendon, you know, off the bone, 785 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,560 it's going to take four months to four to six months to heal. 786 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,920 And most likely the bone or the bicep tendon on the bone will 787 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,560 always be broken and not there. It'll be like you'll see that, 788 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,840 you know, when they get healthy and it flexes, the bicep will 789 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,840 cut off right there. If you inject BPC Yeah, it's a 790 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,200 it's a fighter injury. If you inject BPC or TV 500 into 791 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,360 that area dude I swear to God it'll be healed in six. 792 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,160 To 8 weeks. Now it's now that's regularly 793 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,880 right. So I mean, again, I, I said four 794 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,640 to six months now 6 to 8 weeks. So it's 7 to 10 times faster, 795 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,120 you know, mathematically, again, depending on that person's rate 796 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,080 of healing and their cell cellular age and how, how good a 797 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,120 shape and how good their nutrition and sleep and all that 798 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,200 stuff is. But it's pretty, it's pretty 799 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,560 profound. And and going back to what else 800 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,560 you said too, because it's I'm glad you brought it up. 801 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,720 We're literally about. To come out with a hair regrowth 802 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:41,480 product that I'm not joking is going to cost. 803 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,880 Probably $1000 but it'll regrow hair on a cue ball. 804 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,880 So going to Turkey and you know, spending 8:10 12/15/20. 805 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,160 Grand for a hair transplant? Guys won't need to do that now. 806 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,280 Again, the people that get the best response are the best 807 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,280 cellularly healthy people. So you can't be a fat flaming, 808 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,040 you know, tune up, I mean, a pizza, beer drink and dumpster 809 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,000 fire with no hair and think you're going to get better 810 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000 results with that than somebody who takes great care of 811 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,200 themselves and sleeps and eats meticulously. 812 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,040 You'll still get something, but you're not going to get the hair 813 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,520 regrowth that somebody else does. 814 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,840 And just so I can say this for this show, because I don't talk 815 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,400 about this and people get mad, very few people in the world 816 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,800 even knows what causes hair loss. 817 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,760 The average person who knows something about it thinks it's 818 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,760 due to DHT inhibition. Or DHT diminutizing the 819 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,400 follicles in the scalp. It's completely not true. 820 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,160 How we lose hair as we get older is due to blood flow restriction 821 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,840 to the scalp. So what causes that? 822 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,000 Dude, Hundreds of thousands of things. 823 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:50,520 Heavy metal exposure, sunlight, EMF, just eating poorly, you 824 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,640 know, killing obviously insulin signaling and receptors, 825 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,080 sensitivity to your head because you're not getting blood flow up 826 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,640 there anymore. I mean, again, there's so many 827 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,120 causal agents, but people when I say that, they'll ask me, well, 828 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,320 if that's true, if you hung upside down, would you have 829 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,880 better hair growth? The answer is yes. 830 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,840 There are people out there that literally hang in traction 831 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,840 things for like 30. I swear to God in my life. 832 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,000 I mean, I know some of these people, they hang in those 833 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,280 traction things for like 30 minutes a night and they put 834 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,360 GHKCU on their scalp and a red light cap and their hair stays 835 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,360 great. Even with genetic, you know, 836 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,720 androgenic alopecia, which is a genetic predisposition hair 837 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:25,840 loss. So depending on how aggressive 838 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,680 anal where 10 of you are, you can keep your hair even if 839 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,120 you're genetically prone to lose it. 840 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,560 You just have to do the right things. 841 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,200 And so that's what it is. What causes hair loss is blood 842 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,960 flow restriction. Yeah, and this is like a a point 843 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,680 that you made about just somebody being health healthy, 844 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,520 causing a better response to some of these things. 845 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,280 This is why. And, and I just want to point 846 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,040 this out because stem cells is a similar topic, you know, of 847 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,360 discussion and I think a lot of people they don't understand 848 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,680 this part. And so they assume any stem cell 849 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,240 is going to work. And it's, it's not, 850 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,320 unfortunately, it's illegal in the United States. 851 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,880 But if you get stems, I watched my dad do this too because he 852 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,200 had to end up getting double hip surgery on both sides and he get 853 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,000 the stem cell route paid out. Dude, my dad did too by the way 854 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,280 and like. You know when he gets stem cells 855 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,280 for this, They're his stem cells. 856 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,560 I'm like you're your stem cells are not going to be the same as 857 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,760 the stem cells from a baby fetus that they're actually in 858 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,280 Argentina or Mexico or whatever. And so those healthy cells are 859 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,080 going to work rapidly. That's why the UFC have that 860 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,960 that center in Mexico that the designers go to. 861 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,800 Yeah, exactly. But by. 862 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,480 By the way, did your did your dad get any benefits from his 863 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,160 own stem cells? Probably not, right? 864 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,640 I think he felt better for like a month, at most. 865 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,280 Two weeks. Yeah. 866 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,240 And he's a golfer and stuff, you know, so he started feeling 867 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,360 everything. But I, I for all we know, it 868 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,320 could have been placebo. I mean, dude, don't even get me 869 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,840 going on that, but at least your dad did stem cells. 870 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,520 My dad wouldn't even do that. My dad is just not get old 871 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,480 naturally and die, you know what I mean? 872 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,600 Like they're not going to try anything experimental. 873 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,440 It's insane. He's needed testosterone for 30 874 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,280 years, you know? But I mean, again, it is what it 875 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,160 is. But to your point, getting back 876 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,640 to that and just, you know, keeping going with the peptides, 877 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,880 you do have to make a decision because the system is designed 878 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,160 to suck you dry, right? Hair regrowth, Botox. 879 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,600 I mean, you know, Botox for women, it never ends. 880 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,120 You know what I'm saying? Like it's just you constantly 881 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,520 are injecting in a virulent, you know, pathogenic agent that God 882 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,440 knows what that's going to do over time either, right? 883 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,520 Because it's literally paralyzing your cells so that 884 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,240 your skin says, I mean, I've never done any of that. 885 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:28,600 I won't do that. I'm just going to get old. 886 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,600 I mean, I'll use peptides and other stuff, but I'm not going 887 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,360 to do like that. But hey, my wife does it and I 888 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,280 understand women, you know, they want to look younger and feel 889 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,200 younger and blah, blah, blah. And if you have the money and 890 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,560 the means and you have the right person, fine, go for it, right? 891 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,560 But it's like at the end of the day, it's expensive, like you 892 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,400 said, and it never ends versus, you know, these peptides and 893 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,920 bioregulators and serums and injectables and all these new 894 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,840 things. And they're probably going to 895 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,440 offer as good, if not better. But Cody, the issue is, like you 896 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,160 said, like you have to become the proactive scientist of your 897 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,920 own health. You have to learn how to use 898 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,440 these. You have to reconstitute, you 899 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,400 know, you have to take ownership and, and a lot of people don't 900 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,560 want to take ownership. They just want to be children 901 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,000 and they want somebody else to do it for them, whether it's a 902 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,040 doctor. Or a nurse. 903 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,640 Or whatever. And if they're like, hey, I make 904 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,360 enough money, I've been successful in my life. 905 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,640 I want to do it that way. I don't want to, I don't want to 906 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,920 put my brain under the pressure of having to learn how to do 907 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,880 this myself. And that's cool if that's and 908 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,080 that's the path you want to go. But I mean, I teach people how 909 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,320 to do it themselves. Yeah. 910 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,880 And the listeners of the this podcast, they want that. 911 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,240 That's why they're listening. So OK, so we, we touched on 912 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,080 healing. Now we let's move into either, 913 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,560 you know, optimization or performance, whatever 1 you want 914 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,240 to tackle. First, yeah, so let's do it. 915 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,600 So we'll go three more down South, Fat loss and muscle 916 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,640 building. Which would be. 917 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,680 Performance, so you've got the best ones are GH agonist 918 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,600 peptides. There's three that are worth 919 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,480 mentioning. There are others, but that is 920 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,320 tessamerellin, which is actually a pharmaceutically approved, FDA 921 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,360 approved. Peptide called a. 922 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,560 Grifta and that peptide was made for men that have HIV because 923 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,160 they get this disease that is known as lipodystrophy. 924 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,680 And lipodystrophy when you have HIV is basically this hard 925 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,280 visceral fat right around the belly. 926 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,440 So if a person like you and me who's into longevity for using 927 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,600 these peptides injects that right into the round the belly 928 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,680 button area, it shreds through belly fat. 929 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,200 So very powerful peptide to shred through belly fat. 930 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:21,320 The next one would be ipamerellin and ipamerellin is 931 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,400 probably the number one GH agonist peptide, most well 932 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,800 known. It's also the most studied, it 933 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,040 has the least amount of side effects because it does not 934 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,320 disturb the body's endogenous production of growth hormone, 935 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,000 right? So like our pituitary is what 936 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,560 releases growth hormone. As we get older, it releases 937 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,960 less and less. That's why people inject human 938 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,760 growth hormone, which by the way, human growth hormone is 939 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,320 amazing. A micro dose of human growth 940 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,760 hormone is going to be better than any GH agonist peptide. 941 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,240 And also, I like to say this to people because a lot of people 942 00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,080 in the medical community get this confused. 943 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,520 As we get older, we don't produce natural growth hormone, 944 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,720 right? Like our IGF 1 levels fall. 945 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:02,160 And so if peptides theoretically increase natural IGF one 946 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,400 production, then if you don't have any, what is a peptide 947 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,280 actually doing, right? So like if you're in your late 948 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,240 50s and your early 60s and you don't have any IGF one and you 949 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:11,920 can obviously go get it measured, you can get a lab 950 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,040 test. Peptides have very limited 951 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600 viability, right? So it's like if you're one of 952 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,560 those people, then you need to just go on human growth hormone 953 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,760 and stay on a micro dose of human growth hormone forever. 954 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,520 And it's very affordable. Now, you know, if I said that 955 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,600 five years ago, people be like, yeah, but Jay, it's $6000 a 956 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,960 month to have a script for growth hormone. 957 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,720 Not anymore. You can buy it overseas and get 958 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:36,960 that you you can get a year. Supply of human growth hormone 959 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,840 in a pen for 4500 bucks. Right. 960 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,160 And most people can afford that. But back to the growth of the GH 961 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,080 agonist peptides. IPA is great. 962 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,640 And then the next one would be CJC 1295 and that's a very 963 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,960 strong growth hormone agonist peptide. 964 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,760 I don't like it as much because a lot of people feel like a, a 965 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,720 flushing, they feel kind of like a niacin, you know, they don't 966 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,760 get nauseous, but they just you, you feel it for a couple minutes 967 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,600 after you inject it. So I don't like it as much as 968 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,760 the other two because the other two don't produce that. 969 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,160 But all three of those peptides increase natural growth hormone 970 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,000 production. They improve skin elasticity, 971 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,920 they improve deeper sleep definitely, and help with fat 972 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,280 loss. If your diet's on point, if 973 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,480 you're using therapeutic testosterone or therapeutic 974 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,360 hormones, it can help with muscle building too. 975 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,840 But those are your, those are your three biggest needle 976 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,520 movers. Now to, to stay on performance. 977 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,640 We, we probably should talk about the mitochondrial 978 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,680 optimizing peptides. And there's three of those, 979 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,360 there's mod C 5 amino, one MQ, which can be taken orally or 980 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,080 injectable. And then the other one, which is 981 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:47,200 my favorite one is called SS31. And SS31 is my favorite peptide 982 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,080 because it's essentially an amplifier peptide. 983 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,920 And what that means is if you're on therapeutic testosterone or 984 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:57,440 even growth hormone and anything else, it amplifies the cells 985 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:01,240 signaling cascades and pathways. So what that means is, like, for 986 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:03,920 example, if you're on testosterone or growth hormone, 987 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:07,840 your androgen receptors are peaked or popped or amplified 988 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,480 when you're taking s s 31. So you can actually use less 989 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,760 growth hormones, less therapeutic testosterone, and 990 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,600 get a similar effect if you were using more. 991 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,280 So s s 31 is an amazing peptide. Obviously, it also amplifies and 992 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,800 optimizes your mitochondria spin, the rate of spin. 993 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,240 So it's just a really awesome peptide to take when you're in 994 00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:30,280 the full health optimization. Mott C is as strong as s s 31, 995 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,000 but it's probably better for people that are heavier and more 996 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,960 metabolically deranged because it it turns the, it turns your 997 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,200 mitochondria on somebody like me or you who's already pretty 998 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,000 health optimized, you already have pretty good functioning 999 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,640 mitochondria. So you won't feel Mott C as much 1000 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,640 as somebody who's heavy and has too much inflammation or too 1001 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,600 much body fat, especially visceral body fat. 1002 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,040 So that's a really good peptide for heavy people. 1003 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,520 It's also a really good peptide for a person who's fat and wants 1004 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,400 to get in shape, but says they have no energy to train or to 1005 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,600 exercise or to do cardio. If you give them Mott C and 1006 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,600 therapeutic testosterone at the same time, they have energy. 1007 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,040 And so it really can be a good needle mover to get them over 1008 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,840 the hump, to get them to a point where they can lose, you know, 1009 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,560 2030 lbs and then feel good enough about themselves that 1010 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,120 they can continue and lose all the fat. 1011 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,520 So I love that. And then the other peptide is 5 1012 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,840 amino and five amino can be orally consumed up to 150 1013 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,400 milligrams a day or injected. I think the injectable format is 1014 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,840 a little bit better and a little bit more effective, but it's 1015 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,560 also similar to Mott C and that it will enhance mitochondrial 1016 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,400 optimization and power. So you'll have more, more 1017 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,440 strength in the gym, more force production and more energy when 1018 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,480 you're doing cardio. And again, if you're heavy, 1019 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,400 you're just going to feel better, right? 1020 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,280 Because again, heavy people, they're inflamed. 1021 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,920 They don't feel like you and I they're not motivated to go to 1022 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,240 the gym because they just don't have the energy to exercise. 1023 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,400 But if you give them those mitochondrial peptides, they 1024 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,400 feel a lot better and they usually get that energy. 1025 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,800 So those would be. Like my top 6 peptides for like 1026 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,080 performance enhancement? I love that you touched on 1027 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,000 growth hormone briefly too, just because I think that there's 1028 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,920 some of these that have names that are commonly and 1029 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,360 stereotypically associated with performance enhancement drugs 1030 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,560 for bodybuilding, especially in the fitness world. 1031 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,280 You know, and there's, there's a lot of bodybuilders that have 1032 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,280 died over the years. And you know, the media just 1033 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,560 points a finger at steroids and steroids is this huge umbrella 1034 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,200 topic of like they what, what people don't realize when 1035 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,800 somebody dies from steroids is that they're taking a lot of 1036 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,320 different things. They're taking extreme dosages. 1037 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,560 And I mean, some of the, I've been to Mr. Olympia, these these 1038 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,320 dudes are for freaks. And seeing them in person, I 1039 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,200 mean, it's amazing. It's an amazing show to see. 1040 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,160 They are so big like it is, it's insane. 1041 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,840 They're cartoon characters, dude. 1042 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,880 They are, it is wild. So I, it just, I just wanted to 1043 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,920 mention that 'cause I think, I mean, I know of a, a little boy 1044 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,720 who is, he had a lot of stunning growth. 1045 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,080 He's taking growth home every single day cause doctors try to 1046 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,560 make sure that he grows up and is big enough, you know, so 1047 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,960 people need to know more about these topics. 1048 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,440 But quick question on some of those. 1049 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,600 What I, I, I experimented with one of the growth hormones, 1050 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,800 secretagog peptides and I want to say it was ipamorilin in 1051 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,880 something else. I can't remember. 1052 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,120 It was probably IPA and CJC together that you'll see that a 1053 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,920 lot. Yes, and it was a daily 1054 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,200 subcutaneous injection. And that's part of the reason 1055 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,720 why, you know, for me, I, I am younger and I don't, I don't, 1056 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:25,960 it's not something I needed, but it was I was starting to 1057 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,880 experiment. I like doing that, my client's 1058 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,800 question stuff and it, it just, I don't want to take that every 1059 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,760 day. Like it's just annoying. 1060 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,080 Is are all of them this way? Are some of them you just take 1061 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,040 bigger dosage? I, I, it's just a question I 1062 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,520 thought of that I probably should ask because people are 1063 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,360 probably wondering, well, like, how often do I got to take this 1064 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:41,880 stuff? Yeah. 1065 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,640 So I mean, so most injectable peptides you take at least five 1066 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,920 to six days a week. If it's a growth hormone agonist 1067 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,720 peptide, you're going to take it daily to get the effects. 1068 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:55,840 But healing peptides are cognitive enhancing peptides. 1069 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,520 You can probably. Inject it two or three times a 1070 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,760 week. It's not every day. 1071 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,120 For BPC and TV 500, if you're severely injured and critically 1072 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,320 injured or you know, acutely, you know, you have acute tear, 1073 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,640 you're going to take that twice a day until the inflammation is 1074 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,160 gone. So I mean, again, you know, 1075 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,320 depending on how much you know about these things and you know 1076 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,640 how used to you are, you're using a 31 or a 32 gauge needle. 1077 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,480 The big advancement, you know, because this is now we're going 1078 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,120 down the rabbit hole. The big advancement now in 1079 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,800 peptides is you can use pens. So you can use a medical grade 1080 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,080 pen to inject multiple peptides at one time, which is a game 1081 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,560 changer. I mean, I've been using a pen 1082 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,240 now for close to a year and that's massively, radically up 1083 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,960 regulated my peptide game. In fact, this morning I have to 1084 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,360 do this now every six months. I made six new pens and it was 6 1085 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,840 pens of my peptides, right? So it's like my, the primary 1086 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:53,640 peptides I use are BBC and TB500 together, right? 1087 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,520 I always have a pen of that because you never know when 1088 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,720 injuries going to strike. I use my GLP one peptide, the 1089 00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:03,200 third, the triple stage agonist GLP 3, which is called red a 1090 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,640 true tide. I always have a pen of that. 1091 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,240 I have a pen of melanotanin one because melanotanin 1 darkens my 1092 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:10,200 skin and also enhances my consciousness. 1093 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,960 And then I have thymus and A1, which is the immunomodulator 1094 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,160 peptide that I always have because you never know when 1095 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,840 you're going to get sick. And plus I travel so much. 1096 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:23,360 And then the other two peptides or tirzepatide, which my wife 1097 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,160 and I every now and then use, it's a appetite suppression 1098 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,240 peptide. It's also a stage 2 GLPA. 1099 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,360 Lot of people use that as they know it as Manjaro or Zep bound. 1100 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:37,280 And then the the last peptide is SS31, right, the amplifier 1101 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,080 peptide. So I mean, it takes me now like 1102 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,080 every six months I redo the pens because they're each like in a 1103 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,560 cartridge. I don't have it in front of me 1104 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,800 right now, but they're each in a cartridge or three milliliter 1105 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,480 cartridge. So a three milliliter cartridge 1106 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,920 is going to last a person like 4 to 5 months depending on how 1107 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,160 much they use it. So but it massively speeds up 1108 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,240 your life use of that because you don't have to reconstitute. 1109 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,080 You're not pulling out an insulin syringe. 1110 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,040 And seriously, Cody, I don't have it on me right now, but 1111 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,320 it's a four MMM needle. So you can jab your eyeball with 1112 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,200 it, not feel it. Jeez. 1113 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,280 Yeah, so I mean, honestly, dude, I inject here, I inject here, I 1114 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,360 inject my glutes, I inject in my lower abs and my belly button. 1115 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,960 I mean, I have no fat right now on my on my lower abs. 1116 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,120 So like I have to be cautious that I don't, you know, hit the 1117 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,880 muscle. But in in truth, man, it's 1118 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,040 changed the game for peptides. Like most people that are using 1119 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,200 peptides that are pretty advanced now are using pets. 1120 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,640 Yeah. Oh, this is insane, man. 1121 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,640 OK, so as we kind of wind down, I feel like we've covered so 1122 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,560 much ground. I would love to just hear really 1123 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,080 just for you to plug your company so people know where 1124 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,320 they can access some of this stuff. 1125 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,040 And, and I'm assuming really I can just kind of drop your 1126 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,840 content, your website, that kind of stuff. 1127 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,840 But just kind of give us an idea of, of how do people access this 1128 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,200 kind of these peptides and, and going this route? 1129 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,080 So for sure, so First off, my website isjcampbell.com, it's 1130 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,360 just Jay and then like campbellsoup.com and that site 1131 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,880 last month had 64,000 unique visitors. 1132 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,160 So it's like top three websites on planet earth for peptide 1133 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,240 related information. There's a lot of biohacking 1134 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:12,480 information there. But as of last count, my SEO guy 1135 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,960 told me that we had 103 articles that are either top five 1136 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,720 rankings on Google. Now that's an amazing 1137 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:22,120 accomplishment for me because bro, I've been heavily shadow 1138 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,720 band and suppressed for my content. 1139 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:26,600 Obviously I've been talking about testosterone since 2014. 1140 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,600 YouTube ships suppresses me, X suppresses me. 1141 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,680 Instagram suppresses me. I mean, it's crazy. 1142 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,240 I have really good social media teams. 1143 00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:36,400 I got to give them all the credit. 1144 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,320 You know that they've even been able to get me up to like I'm 1145 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,800 like, I have like 55,000 followers on Instagram, which I 1146 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,000 have no idea how, because like I could have a 12 million 1147 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,080 impression posts like a a series of posts on X and I get one 1148 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,160 follower. It's such a scam, dude. 1149 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,800 I mean, like the X gods literally are like, Oh no, we 1150 00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,440 can't have Jay Campbell go viral. 1151 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,080 His information is too important. 1152 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,880 Like he would, he would blow up the whole medical, you know, the 1153 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,240 the medical establishment. So we can't have, but it's crazy 1154 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:08,800 because I've had all these teams over the years, but again, shout 1155 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,840 out to them. But you can find me obviously on 1156 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,880 social media. It's Jay Campbell 333. 1157 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,560 I don't know if you can see it over here, but 333 stands for 1158 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,880 the connection between master teachers and spirit. 1159 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,040 Obviously I know a lot about peptides and hormones, but 1160 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,880 truthfully bro, my jam is consciousness. 1161 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,960 Now I talk to people about raising their consciousness. 1162 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,440 That's like the most important thing for me. 1163 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,840 So I know we didn't talk about that today, but we could always 1164 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,080 come back. If you want to meet him, bring 1165 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,920 back and talk about this. But my company is Bio Longevity 1166 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,880 Labs and we launched it in October of last year. 1167 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,480 And I really honestly do have the envision. 1168 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,520 It's not envisioned, it's the. Knowledge that it's going to 1169 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,440 become the Amazon for biohackers. 1170 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,200 Our goal is to ship globally, which we're already doing right 1171 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,480 now. There are definitely countries 1172 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,360 in EU and Scandinavian countries that will not let our products 1173 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,320 come in no matter what we do or how we, you know, get them, 1174 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,760 attempt to get them to you. So if you live in Switzerland or 1175 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,080 you live in Denmark, don't try to buy it and ship it to us 1176 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,840 because you won't get it. They will steal it at your 1177 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,120 customs. I do have a affiliate code. 1178 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,840 Again, I own the company so it doesn't matter, but it's JAYC 1179 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,920 and it's any every time you use that code you get 15. 1180 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,360 Percent off our products. Just to talk about our product 1181 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,880 for a second, every single product that we make is 1182 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,440 manufactured in the United States. 1183 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,120 It's all GMP compliant, it's all sterility process and 1184 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,840 controlled. Both of the labs that we make, 1185 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,440 one is in Philadelphia, 1 is in Orlando, FL. 1186 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,720 They are both FDA registered and certified. 1187 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,800 Again, research is not FDA approved. 1188 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,800 It's a big scam, right? Like you got to pay for play. 1189 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,680 I mean, to be FDA approved, you have to go through all these, 1190 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,360 you know, rites of passage and pay the FDA as many bribes as 1191 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,320 you possibly can to get that. But it's it we are FDA certified 1192 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,680 and registered in both of our labs. 1193 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,000 So anybody who buys our products is going to get the Real McCoy. 1194 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,120 You're not getting, you know, low quality ingredients are 1195 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,600 coming out of a, you know, a rat, what do you call it? 1196 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,440 A rat infested container from China. 1197 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,400 It's everything's made in the United States. 1198 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,400 So we have amazing products that do like we have 82 skews as of 1199 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,240 right now. So I mean any research peptide 1200 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,160 that's oral or injectable that is worth anything we sell. 1201 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,720 We have 6 proprietary oral formulations that are the best 1202 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,120 in the industry right now. We have a product called Bio Gut 1203 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:24,000 Pro and it literally will cure any gut dysbiotic issue or 1204 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,520 condition within two to three weeks. 1205 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,840 It has every single gut enhancing or gut, gut gut 1206 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:38,440 destroying peptide KPVBPCTV 500, Tributrin P/E AI mean every 1207 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,920 single thing. It's like a kitchen sink 1208 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,520 peptide. And then we also have one called 1209 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,400 Bio Mine and it's brand new by the way, it's only three weeks 1210 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,600 old, but it's a nootropic peptide and we have 3 three 1211 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:52,240 products in that Dyhexa, the nootropic peptide J147. 1212 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:55,000 Now, most people don't know what J 147 is, but it's actually a 1213 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,360 stage 2 Alzheimer's drug that's showing incredible promise and 1214 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,760 clinical trials. And then it's got new PEPT in 1215 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,520 it. So that that nootropic, it's an 1216 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,400 oral capsule. You take two in the morning. 1217 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,840 I will put that nootropic up against pretty much anything in 1218 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,480 the marketplace. Like it doesn't cause 1219 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,520 jitteriness. It will not stimulate heart rate 1220 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,360 or accelerate your heart rate. So you're not going to get 1221 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,440 wired. It just like makes the lights 1222 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,520 brighter like you just. Have more focus, everything just 1223 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,760 seems better and it also kind of puts you in a good mood. 1224 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,440 And then the other product that I would want to mention is Meta 1225 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,920 Shred. And Meta Shred is the strongest 1226 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,280 fat loss oral product in the world. 1227 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:35,040 It's a mitochondrial supplement with SLU PP-332 combined with a 1228 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,640 product called BAM 15 and BAM 15 is a is a metabolic on coupler. 1229 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,520 So the bodybuilder Bros that are watching this show, they all 1230 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,680 know what DNP was and DNP you know you can't use because it's 1231 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,720 so, so bad and so high risky for you. 1232 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,200 But this is like a safe version of DNP. 1233 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,160 So you can take it increase sweating, increase resting 1234 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,520 thermogenesis. Anyone who takes it before 1235 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,960 exercise will sweat more and have a more productive workout 1236 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,120 because it also enhances force production. 1237 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,880 So those three oral supplements that we sell are absolutely best 1238 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,440 in class, top of the line, tip of the spear. 1239 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,840 So you know, if you're interested, just use the code JC 1240 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,640 or JAYC and you'll get 15%. Off your your purchase. 1241 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:13,680 I love it, man, Super, super helpful. 1242 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,760 I'm going to link all that in the description of this podcast 1243 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,760 so people can go check all that out, as well as your content, 1244 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,040 your products, everything. One final quick question for you 1245 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,080 that I ask all my listeners, because this podcast is the 1246 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,360 Choose Hard podcast is just what Choose Hard means to you in your 1247 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,000 daily life. Yeah, so choose hard is a great 1248 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,600 point or statement this way I look at, I'll just throw a 1249 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,080 consciousness angle in there for you. 1250 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:41,280 We come here as souls to evolve and grow, and you're going to 1251 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,480 evolve and grow the most by choosing to deal with contrast. 1252 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,160 So every time your life deals you an obstacle in your path, 1253 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,800 whatever it is, don't complain, don't become a victim. 1254 00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:00,640 Embrace it, look into it, grasp it and say thank you, God for 1255 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,600 providing this challenge for me. Because when I overcome it or I 1256 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,640 solve it, I'm going to be that much evolved, that much better 1257 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,000 evolved as a soul. And that is the whole purpose 1258 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,600 for my growth as a, as a human being to evolve and grow my 1259 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,000 soul. So there's no such thing as, you 1260 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,200 know, debacles, Fiasco's, mishaps, problems. 1261 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,680 There are only solutions, but it's up to you to see. 1262 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,600 How to solve whatever is put in your way. 1263 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,680 And again, the bigger the obstacle, the greater the 1264 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,680 contrast, the greater the opportunity for growth. 1265 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,360 Oh man, I love that. Such a great answer. 1266 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,360 Thank you dude. Thank you. 1267 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,160 Thank you for spending the time. This has been amazing. 1268 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,960 I appreciate it a ton. I learned a lot. 1269 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,080 I know the audience is going to learn a lot. 1270 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,680 I'm going to link all your stuff in the show notes so they can 1271 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,000 check that out. And again, I just appreciate you 1272 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,160 coming on the show and spend time with me. 1273 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,240 Dude, I love your goatee. I wish I could get my goatee as 1274 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,720 dark as yours but man honestly thank you for having me man. 1275 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,280 It was a great show. You have a great way with your 1276 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,880 guests and your questions were beautiful. 1277 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,720 So let me know how I can serve you further, I'd love to.