1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,200 When Jessica mentioned that she needed a new assistant, Fury 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,320 basically shoved my resume down her throat. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,240 Danica knows something about Fury. 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,200 Danica needs access to books to do her research. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,520 Danica probably knows that Jessica has all these books at 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,920 this point. Did Danica actually set up Bryce 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:33,880 getting the job? Like literally on my rib cage, 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,600 like this thin, thin layer of muscle pain, like something's 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,920 wrong, you know? I know, yeah, I understand. 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,160 I understand. I've been going to core power 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,760 and I've been like. You told me you like. 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,960 That I do like it, but I'm not waking up in agony. 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,600 So I'm like, am I really getting my money's worth here? 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,200 Like, I should be in so much pain, but that might be the 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,800 former college athlete in me not understanding what, like, normal 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,480 healthy training looks like, yeah. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,360 I don't know. I understand, but it's fine. 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,840 It's good. That's good to go to core power. 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,240 I feel like I've. Started to get in a good habit 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,840 of normal cardio. Like I understand that cardio is 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,720 not always meant to feel like your lungs are going to reverse 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,920 inflate outside of your body, you know? 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,240 But strength training, I feel like I still can't. 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,840 Like what's the point if I'm not in pain? 25 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:24,880 Yeah, yeah. Our listeners are going to be 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,000 like, what the fuck is wrong with these two? 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,040 Yeah, yeah, that's fair. So you remember a couple 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,680 episodes ago I told you that we had watched that gorilla 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,880 documentary and that I was like, quite traumatizing and I didn't 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,440 really enjoy it. Oh yeah. 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,480 The other night, Derek was like, what if we just watched Tarzan? 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,480 And I was like, that is exactly what I want to watch right now. 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,920 That's my speed, yes. It's so good. 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,200 Tarzan is such a good movie. Phil Collins, Phil Collins, so 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,800 good. The soundtrack is fantastic, the 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,920 story great. It all makes sense. 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,360 It all holds up. I'm like this movie, this movie. 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,720 They don't make them like this anymore. 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:02,200 They. Really. 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,080 Don't. Yeah, I think they probably do. 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,200 And I just haven't like tried animated movies. 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,560 That's true. In a long time. 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,039 I'm speaking out of my ass right now. 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,440 To be clear, I am not an expert in recent Disney movies, but God 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,920 was Tarzan good. I just feel like the early 90s 46 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:20,720 when we were growing up, they just like really hit it. 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,480 They really figured out that animated niche. 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,520 They were banging them out. Mulan. 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Yeah. Tarzan. 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,200 Hercules, I think. Beauty, I think were like my big 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,800 ones. Yeah, I think Beauty and the 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Beast was early 90s. Too. 53 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Beauty and the Beast was excellent. 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,360 Yeah. Can I just say I think that was 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,920 probably probably one of my like if I had to choose, what do I 56 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:43,480 think was, and this might be very controversial, people might 57 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,560 hate it. I have no idea. 58 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,760 I don't read critics reviews of anything. 59 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,600 But I thought the live action Beauty and the Beast was one of 60 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,040 the better live action Disney takes in the last like 15 years. 61 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,600 Did you see that one with Emma Watson? 62 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:56,920 I don't. It might just be Emma. 63 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,360 Watson. Yeah, I mean, she seems perfect 64 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,240 for the role. I don't think I've seen any of 65 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,320 the Disney live action remakes because I'm kind of like, the 66 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,280 originals are perfect, why would we? 67 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Why would we screw with them? But. 68 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,000 Most of the ones I've seen, I wish I didn't, but not Beauty 69 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,000 and the Beast. Yeah. 70 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,680 So to me, I think that's fair. Beauty and the Beast was. 71 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,280 Wait, this is a perfect time for this story now that Derek walks 72 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,680 in? Did you see the live action 73 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,600 Little Mermaid remake? No, no. 74 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,560 Should I have I told you my connection to this? 75 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,320 Didn't you know somebody? Who was? 76 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,400 Yeah. OK, so the guy who plays Prince 77 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,040 Eric and Derek's gonna roll his eyes because he's heard this 78 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,280 story. So the guy who plays Prince 79 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,920 Eric. Hi, Derek. 80 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,480 I love you. I tell this story. 81 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,240 The guy who plays Prince Eric is an actor in the live action 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,760 remake of The Little Mermaid named Jonah Howard King. 83 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,160 Yeah. I went to summer camp with Jonah 84 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,920 Howard King in May. His sister, his old older sister 85 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,440 Margo Howard King was my best friend at summer camp and he was 86 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,800 like 3 years younger. He had a little crush on me. 87 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Margo told me that Jonah Howard King had a little crush on me 88 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,760 when we were very, very small. So imagine my surprise when I 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,480 see the freaking advertisements for The Little Mermaid and it's 90 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,800 very clearly Jonah Howard King, who I did not even know was an 91 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,200 actor. I was like, Oh my God, what is 92 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,760 that right now? So that was that was a pretty 93 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,240 wild first full circle moment for me. 94 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,760 But Jonah, I'm sorry, I didn't see the movie. 95 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,120 I didn't go see it. I'm sure you're great in it, but 96 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,880 I did not go see. It Prince Eric had a crush on 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,960 you. Well, it's way before he was 98 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Prince Eric. I freaked out when I Derek's 99 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,520 probably rolling his eyes right now because when I, when I found 100 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,320 this out, I would not shut up about it. 101 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,120 It was all I would talk about. But you know, years have passed. 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,480 So we're we're more mature now. I'm looking at that Little 103 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,360 Mermaid. Live Ron. 104 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,200 He's he's a good look. He's very good look. 105 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,960 Go look, I don't even know. I don't even know like what the 106 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,480 what the cast looks like. You should look up Jonah Howard 107 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,240 King because I do think he could be cast as a bad boy. 108 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,920 Personally I think he would maybe be a good as real is my 109 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,280 thinking, but that's just my inside thoughts. 110 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:12,800 Jonah Howard King. Interesting. 111 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,800 Hold on. I mean I feel like he's if 112 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:18,000 anyone as real but. Yeah, that's what I think too. 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,560 I do think it's a hard sell. I don't know I'm. 114 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,800 Not thinking it. I'm not thinking it, but I agree 115 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,920 that he's he's cute. I just think he needs to. 116 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,560 I think I think you need to be bigger. 117 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,960 He's not jacked enough for. It yeah, no you. 118 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Can always go to the gym. You could always go to the gym, 119 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Kumail. Nanjiani can get jacked. 120 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,680 True. It's true. 121 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,640 It's true. On that note though, hi, I'm 122 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:39,760 Ronnie. I'm Abby. 123 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,080 This is Dragons in the Details, the podcast that helps you 124 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,320 better understand your favorite fantasy books through a series 125 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,840 of deep dive episodes. Welcome to the second episode of 126 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:52,320 our Crescent City season, the season we're focused on Crescent 127 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,600 City. It's officially here. 128 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,720 Yeah. So that's very exciting. 129 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,120 We're very happy to be here. I've also been like, really 130 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,200 pleasantly. I'm not surprised, But you guys 131 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,960 have been excited on our socials and on YouTube. 132 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Like, I'm so excited for Christmas City. 133 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,520 And I don't know what I was expecting, but I feel like these 134 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,960 books have not gotten the love that they have deserved compared 135 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,640 to a Guitar and Throne of Glass. So very excited that we're doing 136 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,640 Crescent City. Excited to be here. 137 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,360 Disclaimer, this episode will contain Crescent, the city and a 138 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,680 guitar spoilers. So we're doing this differently 139 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,240 from last season. Why? 140 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,720 Because one, we've not heard of a single person who was Red 141 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Crescent City without having read a guitar first. 142 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,440 Friends don't let friends do that. 143 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,320 If you have done that, I want I want to talk to you. 144 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,120 I want to know what that experience was like. 145 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,160 I feel like you're maybe confused. 146 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,920 I don't know. I guess maybe the first couple 147 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,800 books are not that confusing, but then it gets confusing I'm 148 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,720 sure. I think you can read book one. 149 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,800 Yeah, I think. You can read everything until 150 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,320 like the last chapter of book 2, basically. 151 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,800 Yeah. Yeah. 152 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,200 And then two, we just wrapped our act, our season, so most of 153 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,560 you are joining us from that. So spoilers for all three 154 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,080 published Crescent City books and all 5 published act guitar 155 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,560 books. So this is May 2026. 156 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,520 So we are through actor 5, we're through Silver Flames. 157 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,640 We will also have a mass verse spoiler section at the end as 158 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:14,840 usual. That's really just Throne of 159 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,080 Glass spoilers at this point. So same structure as last 160 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,880 season, just we are going to be doing Crescent sitting and actor 161 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,240 spoilers in our first section. Second disclaimer podcast is 162 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,280 rated R. These are still spicy books. 163 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,200 We are still spicy people. We curse. 164 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,080 So please proceed with caution when listening to it with 165 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,560 children. Each week we dive into a 166 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,960 specific topic in depth. This week we are we're digging 167 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,520 into the Bloodhound that manages to stay incredibly active in 168 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,440 this story from beyond the grave. 169 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,040 This is the most active dead character I have ever 170 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,840 encountered. Celine is a fairly active dead 171 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,840 character, but I agree with you. I don't think she's as active as 172 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,960 Danica. Yeah, no, I agree. 173 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,040 Danica 2 full books from beyond the grave is fucking shit up. 174 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,200 I know she's but this week we're just Danica Fendier. 175 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,640 We come with receipts. We have quotes to back up our 176 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,360 theory so you can follow along if you are skeptical. 177 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Announcements Abby Deep dive music as always brought to you 178 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,240 by. Woodley, we are doing something 179 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,080 new this season. So we are asking you guys to 180 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,560 provide the fun questions that we are going to read next 181 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,280 section. So if you would like to send us 182 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,600 a fun question, please reach out Instagram, TikTok contact form 183 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,680 on the website. 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All right, so as Abby mentioned, 202 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,680 we are reading these from you guys now. 203 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:23,160 So they are fun questions from you because they are hard to 204 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,520 come up with. All right, so fun question for 205 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:30,200 this week is from Tasha Tallis, Tasha Tails. 206 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,520 Tasha Tails, I don't know which I assume your name is. 207 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,360 TALES. TALES. 208 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,520 Yeah, I. Feel like tails is fair but you 209 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,360 never know I guess. You really you really never 210 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,280 know, but Tasha TAS, thank you for your time we. 211 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,640 Should start doing. We should just start spelling 212 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,880 these words out instead of pronouncing that. 213 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:51,640 They're always handled. You really never know. 214 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,400 Yeah. All right, so the fun question 215 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,080 for this week, There are a lot of animal shifters in Crescent 216 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,160 City. What kind of animal shifter 217 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,760 would you want to be I've. Always pictured myself, if I 218 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,320 were to be an animal, such an interesting question. 219 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,080 So in my heart of hearts, I probably want to be a dolphin. 220 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,080 Interesting. Like, like the water. 221 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,440 But I like that they also breathe air. 222 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,960 You know, they're like of two worlds. 223 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,480 You get a little bit of both. Yeah. 224 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,600 I dolphins as a child, we don't really encounter any besides the 225 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,200 mayor. We don't encounter any fish 226 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,800 shifters. I don't think that's the thing. 227 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,840 I know that I know there's some confusion about where the mayor 228 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,080 originates from and we get, we get differing accounts on that, 229 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,160 but like I don't think there's any dolphin shifters who then 230 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,840 walk around on land. You know what I'm saying? 231 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,320 But I think that would be fun. I also have always thought it 232 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,600 would be fun to be like a a cheetah or like a lion, like a 233 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,040 like a big cat predator because I like to run. 234 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,440 I guess lions are pretty lazy. So let's go with cheetah. 235 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,360 I think it'd be fun to be a cheetah and like be a predator, 236 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,400 go hunt things, etcetera, etcetera. 237 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally agree. 238 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,960 With the cheetah or the dolphin, those are very different. 239 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,080 Being a predator. Being a predator, yeah. 240 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,080 I figure, Oh yeah, I'd rather be a predator. 241 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,120 Being a human, if you were not naturally on top of the like 242 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,040 animal pyramid in general, because we have intelligence, 243 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,400 it's actually so exposed. Like your organs are literally 244 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,320 just like, come take me. So I'm serious. 245 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,400 That's real. The fact that we stand up is 246 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,000 like very, very dangerous. Stand upright, that is. 247 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,000 So I think it would be fun to be a predator. 248 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,280 I'm trying to think. I think I would really love to 249 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,520 fly, though. Oh yeah, that's a good time. 250 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Something that flies. If I could be a Pegasus, that 251 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,720 would be ideal. I know that they don't exist, 252 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,160 however we're talking in Crescent City, so. 253 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,400 They exist by the end. No, no, I know, but. 254 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,720 You mean in our world? In the world, if I could be one 255 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,080 of the winged horses and that shifting into that would be a 256 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,760 possibility, I think I would choose that because then I could 257 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,560 run fast on the ground, but I could also fly. 258 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:02,600 Otherwise, yeah, I think I'd go for either a bird of prey or 259 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:03,480 yeah. I mean, if we're talking 260 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,840 Crescent City, I'd love to be a dragon, honestly. 261 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,960 Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, I forgot about the Dragons. 262 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,360 I always forget about the dragon. 263 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,080 Yeah, yeah. She's just not very memorable. 264 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,760 I don't know. She's on page for like 5 265 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,360 chapters. Pretty memorable. 266 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,640 I don't know. We will talk about her. 267 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,920 I think we have a deep dive episode scheduled for her. 268 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,760 I don't remember, but we will talk about her. 269 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,000 I don't think we actually do, but. 270 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,600 Because she's only on page for five chapters, but it's fine. 271 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,120 Yeah. Anyways, guys, there's a dragon. 272 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,880 She she is not able to shift because she's a slave fully but 273 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,040 I she can she could in theory. So that is technically an animal 274 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,160 shifter if. We're picking the Dragons. 275 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,720 The Dragons choose great Dragons. 276 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,280 Yeah, yeah. I would pick the dragon. 277 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,840 Yeah, because it can fly too. Yeah. 278 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,600 You know what? Dragon's my answer, Pickle 279 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,200 answer. Dragon, because then I could 280 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,800 breathe Firefly. I wouldn't be very fast on land, 281 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,240 but like, who gives a fuck? You're a dragon. 282 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,400 It's fine. Who gives a fuck? 283 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,000 Yeah, I agree. OK all. 284 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,560 Right, Cool. All right. 285 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:07,560 Corrections, omissions, social media shoutouts. 286 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,600 Abby, do you have any? I did not have any for this for 287 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,600 this part of the episode. I will have on later. 288 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,960 OK, I have one and it's actually just hilarious coming off of the 289 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,840 back of our last episode where I think I said almost exactly as 290 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,960 many words without meaning to. I was just looking through our 291 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,520 comments. I had posted a video on TikTok 292 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,960 about how House of Sky and Breath is the biggest mind fuck 293 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,440 of all time because the whole book is a lie and Cameron that 294 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,640 is Handel is Cameron Lamb. Cameron Lam commented. 295 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,840 And why is the Autumn King one of the only people who offers 296 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,600 her the truth? And I just wanted to say that's 297 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,440 so true. I think he might be one of the 298 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,080 only characters in this entire book who has not lied. 299 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,560 I genuinely think that I genuinely believe he might be 300 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:54,720 one of the only characters who's not. 301 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,840 Lied. I don't disagree. 302 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,680 He omits, but I'm big he. Lies. 303 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:01,480 I'm really mad he's dead. I'm really gonna need I'm really 304 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,000 gonna need us to go back and put Bryce's light through his prism 305 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,400 and see what happens. Like I'm gonna need that to 306 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,360 happen among other things. Grooon. 307 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,040 I do have one omission. I do have one omission we talked 308 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,680 about in our first episode of the season, but it was not a 309 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:19,840 deep dive about our favorite character. 310 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,560 And we both said that Roon is our favorite character in 311 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,480 Crescent City and I do stand by that. 312 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,160 I do love him. However, I did for forget that 313 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:32,440 he fucking shoots Lydia in the leg to stop her from saving her 314 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:37,400 children, which is the most unbelievably bad call I have 315 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,200 ever read of any man in any book. 316 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,480 I truly do not know what Sarah was thinking in that moment. 317 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Fucking insanity. And because it's so does not 318 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,160 jive with Ruin as a character at any other point in time, my mind 319 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,560 has just shut it off and chose it to believe that it did not 320 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,280 happen. So I want to be clear that I do 321 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,640 not agree with that call. I hate that he did that. 322 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,720 I think it was the wrong call on every level. 323 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,080 And I'd like to not walk back my love for Roon, but just make 324 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,880 clear that I don't agree with that. 325 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,280 I don't agree with them doing that basically. 326 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,160 I what I have to say about that is obviously I agree it was 327 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:19,080 horrible and I don't know how. Again, I don't know how he is 328 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,480 related to Reese, but if that doesn't scream I am related to 329 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,400 Reese on every fucking level, I don't know what does. 330 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,680 I don't know. I am in general a good person 331 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,160 who makes a terrible calls from time to time. 332 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,280 Yeah, I am, in general, a good person who makes, like, 333 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:39,400 rationalized calls that are fucking horrible and borderline 334 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,520 unforgivable. Like, yeah, horrendous. 335 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,600 This is the same thing, right? Like I'm taking away your agency 336 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:47,680 to. Yeah. 337 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,200 Yeah, to to be a fucking. It's all over this with my 338 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,920 manliness. Like what the fuck? 339 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Yeah. Yeah, and is her kid like, is 340 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,240 that why you shot her? I'm. 341 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,920 Like right, right, right, and she just forgives him, which I'm 342 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,560 like Lydia, what the actual fuck right now. 343 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,400 Like he I'm not saying you should like walk away from him, 344 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,840 but he should be in the doghouse. 345 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,960 Like there should be something like you fucked up bad here. 346 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,440 But maybe that was what Sarah was trying to do, was trying to 347 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,480 draw parallels between recent room. 348 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:16,680 That would be interesting. I don't know. 349 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,360 Yeah. Speaking of guess, it's an 350 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,120 omission from our reactions episode. 351 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,280 You had mentioned that Bryce got like self-righteous and annoying 352 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,560 by the end. Her behavior in the caves in a 353 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,880 volun was. Unbelievable. 354 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,600 I believable hated her in that moment. 355 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,480 I was rereading it this morning for like I don't remember why, I 356 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,040 think it was related to the star sword or something and I 357 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,520 remembered that I didn't like her in House of flame and Shadow 358 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,520 but I read that and I was like you actually fucking suck like 359 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,000 she. Suck Tristan and Declan behind. 360 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,520 She left them behind. She was like, she'll deal with 361 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,840 that later. She also was like the face suck 362 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,440 and I'm going to be their queen, but I'm actually not going to 363 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,320 fucking do anything about it. And you guys can walk yourself 364 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,680 into your grave and I think you're dumb Satya for putting up 365 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,839 with the ship, but I'm actually not going to help you at all. 366 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,280 Like icky icky ick. I mean, to be fair, she does 367 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,319 walk that back by the end. So I don't want to. 368 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:18,000 I don't want to, sure, yeah. But Bryce in the when Bryce 369 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,440 comes back from Perthian and even somewhat in Perthia, she is 370 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,720 tough with the secrets. She's keeping the decision she's 371 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,200 making. Like I definitely, I definitely 372 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,200 have issues with the way that all played out. 373 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,320 But you don't have to love every character. 374 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,240 You don't have to love every an author makes. 375 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,000 There's a reason she wrote Bryce that way. 376 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,600 I think we'll probably find out what it is. 377 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,520 I don't feel like we've necessarily found out what it 378 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,800 was. But and and the way Bryce treats 379 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Hunt too in the back half, I'm like, what are you doing? 380 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,080 Like he literally was just like tortured and you're being a huge 381 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,440 bitch right now. Yeah. 382 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,840 What the fuck he? Was like, I feel guilty. 383 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,680 And she was like, how dare you? I'm like. 384 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,040 Right. How dare you and. 385 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,320 This is not a Bryce like smear campaign. 386 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,200 I'm generally fine with her, but in that book I was like 387 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,720 literally go stand in a corner and think about what you did. 388 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,560 I can't deal with you. Right now, yeah, so not some of 389 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,240 our finest moments from these characters and has flame and 390 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,200 shout out, but that's OK We still like the series. 391 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,360 It's OK, we're allowed to have moments of what the fuck is. 392 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,040 OK, it's OK. All right. 393 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,160 Shall we deep dive? We shall. 394 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,000 OK, Abby, what are Danica's powers and where did they come? 395 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,160 From I love this question because there's really only two 396 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,280 powers that Danica has, which is very nice. 397 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,880 Or at least I think there's only two powers. 398 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,840 Maybe you think there's more, but first power, she is a wolf 399 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,840 shifter. OK, I don't think there's any 400 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,280 question about that. I wrote she could shift into a 401 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,600 wolf. That seems pretty 402 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,760 straightforward. She is the alpha wolf of the 403 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,040 pack of devils. She is also of the Fender line. 404 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,360 She is presumed to be second in line to be prime of all of the 405 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,400 Val Barn wolf. So her grandfather is prime 406 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,880 Sabine, Her mother is assumed to be prime apparent, and then at 407 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,720 one point Bryce says that she is apparent to be prime apparent. 408 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,720 All that being said, we still have some weirdness with Danica, 409 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,480 as we do with all our favorite characters. 410 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,680 Right, so Bryce says it was unheard of for a shifter to have 411 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,680 that sort of power, yet all the standard childhood tests had 412 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,120 confirmed it. Once Danica dropped, she'd 413 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:24,760 become a considerable power among the wolves, the likes of 414 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,880 which had not been seen since the Elder Days across the sea. 415 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,720 So that is House of Earth and Blood Chapter 2. 416 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,360 This sounds very Cassian and Azrael, right? 417 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,400 Like she has all this extra power. 418 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,760 We don't really know where it came from, it's not really 419 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,600 explained. She is of the Fender line, which 420 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,440 we know we'll get into later, but we know that the Astari have 421 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,280 read the Fender line for genetics specifically, so that 422 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,320 could be the explanation for it. But she has an inexplicable 423 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,800 amount of power. This says for shifters, not even 424 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,360 for wolves, but for all shifters. 425 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:58,160 She has like an incredible amount of power. 426 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:02,400 As for where that extra power came from, I don't really have 427 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,440 an answer right now. We know high level, I'll just 428 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,720 say high level. We know. 429 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,960 Rajalis tells us. Danica realized that the 430 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,800 shifters are fae. Bryce blinked. 431 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,440 What? Not your kind of fae, of course. 432 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,040 Only a select few in the entirety of your world could 433 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,320 shift from their humanoid forms to animal ones. 434 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,960 The mid guard shifters were fae from a different planet. 435 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,720 All the fae in that world shared their form with an animal. 436 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,440 Perhaps they once shared a world with your breed of fae, but they 437 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,720 had been alone on their planet for long enough to develop their 438 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,680 own gifts. So we know. 439 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,560 What the shifters were once Faye and Ethan tells us Ethan has 440 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,760 elemental power right He says the shifters were once Faye with 441 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,800 elemental power. So I think there's kind of a 442 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,560 question that we never get answered here. 443 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,600 But that is what type of magic would Danica have have had if 444 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,080 she had taken the antidote, right? 445 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,960 And was she is this extra power that she seemed to have relate 446 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,400 to that elemental power that we don't we don't know what it is, 447 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,080 right. But was she would she have been 448 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,360 super strong in some kind of power like that? 449 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:58,480 I don't know. I don't know. 450 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,080 I'm speculate anything else about her being a wolf that you 451 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,920 want to add? I mean maybe just like I don't 452 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,560 know this necessarily is defined as a power but it does give her 453 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,640 the ability to impose power on other people. 454 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,920 She is an alpha and that alpha Ness seems to have like a 455 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,880 compulsive impact on other wolf shifters for some reason. 456 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Like Ethan when it's Sabine right? 457 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,760 Help her protect her savior alpha when Sigrid, who is like 458 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,880 nothing to anyone except for to Ethan, tells Ethan to do 459 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,440 something determinedly. He's like feels like a primal 460 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,520 need to obey. So something about being an 461 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,680 alpha, whatever that power is gives you dominance over. 462 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,920 Yeah, it's it's. Very High Lord dominance, right? 463 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,280 It's very, very high Lord dominance. 464 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,960 It's which we've seen. Yeah, Tamlin Ish. 465 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,920 Tamlin is an alpha without a pack. 466 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,200 Yeah, yeah. But we we see it with Cassian, 467 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,480 right? Like Cassian Reese tries to get 468 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,320 Cassian to do something and Cassian said he was using that 469 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:05,040 like that bastard was trying to use his High Lord dominance on 470 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,920 me, right. So it's it's a very similar idea 471 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,080 of these Faye from completely different worlds, right? 472 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,000 So very, very interesting. I don't know where we're going 473 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,000 with that, but some groundworks being laid. 474 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,120 All right, Second power that Danica has, she is a Bloodhound. 475 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,120 We have discussed the bloodhounds at length on this 476 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:24,520 podcast. I don't think I'm going to add 477 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,480 anything radically new to what we're thinking, but just some 478 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,680 additional quotes. We learned that Danica was a 479 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,760 Bloodhound first from Fury. So the only other secret I knew 480 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,280 about Danica was that she was a Bloodhound of Bryce St. and a 481 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,760 what hurry signaled the barista for another child a Bloodhound. 482 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,720 She could send bloodlines, the secrets in them. 483 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,200 So we have kind of two things that come from being a 484 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,720 Bloodhound 1, the bloodlines to the secrets in them, which we I 485 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,960 think can probably confirm means the powers in them. 486 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,720 And the reason I'm saying that is that Emil says that Danica 487 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,960 basically sent it out. So Sophie, so he says Danica 488 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,440 found Sophie using her veinier powers. 489 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,840 Emil said she could smell Sophie's gift or something. 490 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,640 She needed Sophie to do something for her. 491 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,080 Danica couldn't do it because she was too recognizable. 492 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,440 But Sophie, Emil towed the carpet. 493 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,000 She wasn't. So Danica literally sniffed out 494 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,080 that Sophie was a Thunderbird. So bloodlines and powers with in 495 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,600 those bloodlines seem to be the gifts that come with being a 496 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,960 Bloodhound. So where did this come from? 497 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,320 We have what we know and then we have what we're speculating. 498 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,840 So we know that this comes from Murdoch, right, Murdoch. 499 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,720 Murdoch. So Murdoch is Danica's father. 500 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,400 Him and Sabine were ordered by the Astiri to breed and that is 501 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,160 how we got Danica. What we know about bloodhounds, 502 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,240 we learn a little bit about this from Jessa Baroga. 503 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,120 So she says that the original wolves that came over from that 504 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,160 other planet had that Bloodhound power. 505 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,920 So she says it was the wolf packs led by a sterry bread 506 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080 bloodhounds who haunted down my sisters. 507 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,720 I've never forgotten that. Ethan stomach churned at the 508 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,440 shameful history of his people. But he asked bread, wry smile. 509 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,400 The gift already existed among the wolves, but the Asteri 510 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,840 encouraged it, read it into certain lines. 511 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,800 They still do. Like Danica. 512 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,640 Jessica's fingers resume their drumming. 513 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480 The Fenders have been a carefully cultivated line for 514 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,200 the Asteri. So the gift already existed, but 515 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,080 the Asteri tried to breed it into more wolves, into specific 516 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,840 wolves, to heighten their power. Rageless later tells us the 517 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,960 Bloodhound gift is a gift the shifters should not have. 518 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,200 So he says. Of course. 519 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,600 Her quest for truth began with her Bloodhound gift, not a gift 520 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,240 of the body strength, but of magic such as the shifter should 521 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,960 not have. She could send other shifters 522 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,560 with strange powers, right? So that is Sky and Breath 523 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,880 chapter 73. So this is a gift that is in the 524 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,240 shifters, but a gift that the shifter should not have. 525 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Where did it come from? You know this is really your 526 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,760 theory. I'm going to give you credit 527 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,880 here, right, but it's Thanatos. Thanatos seems to almost 528 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,960 certainly be the answer here. Thanatos is able to smell 529 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,760 Bryce's Starlight. The quote for that is Thanatos 530 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,880 sniff toward Bryce almost as canine as the hounds in the 531 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,240 shadows and said your Starlight smells fresher, right? 532 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,400 So he has hounds and he can smell. 533 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,320 He has a pack of hounds and he can smell. 534 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,520 These are bloodhounds, right? Like it's called being a 535 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,680 Bloodhound. He can smell Starlight. 536 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,960 So it seems to have come from Thanatos. 537 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,200 I actually think there's even a little more evidence from this 538 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,760 than just this line. So we have Baxian saying Danica 539 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,320 learned about Sophie's existence while investigating Thunderbird 540 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,200 lineage as part of her research into shifters and our origins. 541 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,000 She traced the bloodlines and then confirmed it by tracking 542 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,040 debt her down and sending her being Danica. 543 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,640 She didn't let Sophie walk away without answering questions. 544 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,400 So she found Sophie, who is a Thunderbird, and we know the 545 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,840 Thunderbird is a power that comes from hell while 546 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,160 researching the shifter origins and her own bloodlines. 547 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,080 She was, it's presumably I'm I'm saying presumably this is an 548 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,760 ironclad, right? Presumably she was already 549 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,000 researching hell, and then she found the Thunderbirds, which is 550 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,800 also a power from hell. I think the trail is is pretty 551 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,600 like clear there she was looking for the blood in the lineage she 552 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,680 found. Hell, she. 553 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,720 Went to find Baxian who is a hellhound. 554 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,440 Hellhound specifically sought him out and had been looking 555 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,960 into Sophie as a result as well. Who has hell powers too. 556 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,760 It's a lot of hell for someone who seemingly would have no hell 557 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,240 lineage except for the Bloodhound power, yeah. 558 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,680 Yeah. And then I'd say the only other 559 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,640 thing to add about this is Jessica says the wolves already 560 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,760 had the power, right? So did that power come from 561 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,360 Midgard or it doesn't seem like it could have because the 562 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,400 sacking of Parthos happened pretty quickly right from when 563 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,880 the other Faye came over, right? Yeah, the shifters, they came 564 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,320 from another world. It seems like maybe that power 565 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,640 originated on that other world. That's all I have for 566 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,160 Bloodhounds right now. Two other items of note. 567 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,920 I'll say she seems to have some kind of connection to her sword. 568 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,160 Seen a lot of magical swords in Crescent City specifically. 569 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,080 So the quote we have for that is the blade had called to Danica 570 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,080 on her 18th birthday, like a howl on a moonlight night. 571 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,880 The Prime had said to explain his unexpected decision. 572 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,800 So basically the Prime has skipped over Sabine and giving 573 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,720 Danica this sword. This Sword of the Wolves. 574 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,040 That's Sabine places all this importance on that sword is 575 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,040 broken by the end of frost of flavor. 576 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,280 I have to suck doing that by the end of a flavor and shadow it's 577 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,840 broken. It doesn't exist anymore. 578 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,640 It may not matter, but we are in a world where swords are imbued 579 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,040 with magic and that people who have that magic are called to 580 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,440 the sword. So with something like that 581 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,040 going on with the Attica sword, I don't know. 582 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,400 And then we also have this line from Fury, which I thought was 583 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,520 really interesting. Bryce asked you never thought to 584 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040 tell me this during the investigation Fury says it 585 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,320 didn't seem relevant. It was only one of Manicas many 586 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,360 powers. I'm counting 2 powers. 587 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,680 I'm wondering what Fury is referring to here because it 588 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,320 seems like she has a list of powers that I have not picked up 589 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,040 on that I do not know about so I don't know. 590 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,600 What do you think? Yeah, I mean, strength, speed, I 591 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,000 don't know. Those are all said to be powers 592 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320 of wolves already. But. 593 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,320 Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. I think it has to be related to 594 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,280 this, like claim that Danica was going to claim a ton of power 595 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,520 when she made the drop. We just don't know what that 596 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,440 power was. How Fury knows what that power 597 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,080 was, I don't know. But I'm assuming again, they 598 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,360 they basically had to go through a bunch of like collateral 599 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,840 sharing, right? Danica came to Fury and was 600 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,440 like, I know what you are. And then Fury learned secrets 601 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,520 about Danica as well. Did they exchange information 602 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,560 like other things that Danica knows, that she's capable of, 603 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,840 understands that she's capable of, that we might not know? 604 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,280 Yeah, I don't know. But she she learned. 605 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,880 We'll talk about this obviously coming up, but like plenty about 606 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,200 her lineage that could indicate other powers that she would know 607 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,440 that she would have if she took the antidote. 608 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Yeah, right, because she knew about the parasite too. 609 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,640 Yeah. Yeah, I think all that makes 610 00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,600 sense. I agree, yeah. 611 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,160 Yeah. Anything else on that one? 612 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,720 No, it's pretty straightforward. Pretty straightforward question. 613 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,360 We love a straightforward question, all right? 614 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,160 We love a straightforward powers question. 615 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,200 Rare. So rare because we're about to 616 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,920 get into the not straightforward question. 617 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,040 All right, guys. So Ronnie, what did Danica know? 618 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,160 This is like the most loosey goosey question we've ever had. 619 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,840 What did Danica know and when did she know it? 620 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,080 Yeah. So I am focusing this question 621 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,480 on her learning pivotal information but I think that the 622 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,680 when did you know it about that pivotal information is really 623 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,120 interesting. So in House of Sky and Breath 624 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,400 chapter 18, we find out that Danica hid a bunch of college 625 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,280 papers in a secret compartment in her coffee table. 626 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Ethan, who is a bumbling baboon, crushes coffee table when doing 627 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,520 swordplay for fun with Danica's sword on top of the coffee 628 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,320 table. So we can reasonably believe 629 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,480 that her knowledge hunt began in college. 630 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880 And here's what we learned. This is Bryce looking through 631 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,080 those papers. This table was here when I moved 632 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,680 in. All the furniture was Danica's. 633 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,880 Why would she hide her old college papers in here? 634 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,480 And then in chapter 19 later, she's looking through it? 635 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,200 Bryce's hands shook. She sifted through a few 636 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,760 academic articles, all full of redactions theorizing on the 637 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,800 origin of worlds and what the Asteria even were. 638 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,880 So these are like very early documents that Danica is looking 639 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,640 through on what are the asteri, what is the world. 640 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,600 So the papers found in the coffee table mentioned Dusk's 641 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,640 Truth, which we know now to be the room in the archives that 642 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,640 contains all of the history of the Asteris conquests and the 643 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,400 fact that they are intergalactic parasites. 644 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,560 And at that time, Bryce just recognized it as a term exchange 645 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,280 between Sophie and Danica over e-mail. 646 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,360 So that quote is Dusk's Truth, the same project that had been 647 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,240 mentioned in the emails between Sophie and Danica that Danica 648 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,440 had said would be of interest to Sophie Danica. 649 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,680 Danica had been digging into it since college. 650 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,440 Good question. Bryce inhaled and turned to the 651 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,720 next page. It was completely blank, like 652 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,760 Danica had never gotten to writing, writing down any notes 653 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680 about it. Dusk's Truth was one of the 654 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,400 things that Danica mentioned to Sophie. 655 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,920 Bryce said quietly. Dusk's Truth and project Thur. 656 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,840 So then Fast forward a bit. Two months before she died, we 657 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,360 see footage of Danica grab a book in secret called Wolf's 658 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,560 Through Time, Lineage of the Shifters. 659 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,760 We're going to talk about this later, but we also should talk 660 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,440 about it now, because what we're going to talk about later is 661 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,920 more extended. I'll call it. 662 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,000 So this is from two months before she died. 663 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,280 Declan said quietly. There was Bryce and a tight 664 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,320 green dress and four inch heels, talking with Lahata about fangs 665 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,560 and bangs. I'm gonna just skip ahead a bit. 666 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,360 A second passed, then two, then three. 667 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,640 Danica moved, swift and focus like she'd been, using the time 668 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,440 lounging at the table to pinpoint where she needed to go. 669 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,160 She headed straight to a lower shelf, pulled off a book. 670 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,760 Glancing at the stairs, she flipped it open and began 671 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,760 snapping photos with her phone at the inside, page after page 672 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,560 after page. Skipping a bit again, I 673 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200 clarified the image. Declan pulled up a frame of the 674 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,360 book right before Danica's black sparkle painted nails grabbed 675 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,840 it. Wolster time, Lineage of the 676 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,920 shifters. You can see her finger going to 677 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,560 some text there. Declan went on, clicking to 678 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,800 another frame. Danica had opened the book, 679 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,200 skimming over it over the text with a finger tapping something 680 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,440 right near the top of the page as if it were exactly what she'd 681 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,520 been looking for. So this is much later, right? 682 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,360 This is 2 months before she died. 683 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,200 They find that basically every Fender older than 5000 years has 684 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,440 been erased. As for his public records. 685 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,200 And Danica was looking at names of those fenders from before 686 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,280 that time. But in this video, right, it 687 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,640 seems like she was looking for someone specifically. 688 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:41,640 And those people are Nicklaus, Fendier and Ferris, the first of 689 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,280 the Fendier line. We're not great at 690 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,920 pronunciations. We're getting better. 691 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,280 If you're new here, we're working on it, OK? 692 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,320 We all have things to better ourselves with. 693 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,000 We're working on it, she chewed. On her lip. 694 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,560 I've never heard of them. Declan tapped away on the 695 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,080 computer. Nothing comes up. 696 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,160 Try their kids. Spray suggested, giving him the 697 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,080 names. Nothing. 698 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,880 They went through generation after generation until Dec said 699 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,480 their Katra Fendier from here. Yeah, there's actual historical 700 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,040 record and mentions of Katra from there on out starting 5000 701 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,200 years ago, but nothing thing on any of these vendors before her. 702 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,400 So why does this matter? From that video, she is looking 703 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,160 for something specifically. She puts her fingers on people's 704 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,600 names. Specifically. 705 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,200 We learn that she already knew these people's names back in 706 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,600 college, and we learned this because Bryce tracks down the 707 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,240 prime to ask him about it, and he said that she asked about 708 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,640 them in college, claiming she had a school paper. 709 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,480 This means, right, that Danica already knew these two names. 710 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,360 I think she knew that these people were Faye. 711 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,520 I think she knew their names and knew that they were Faye and 712 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,560 knew it in college and suspected that they were Faye, from which 713 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,520 shifters and maybe even her line already originated. 714 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,480 And she learned in that moment in that video and Griffin 715 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,720 antiquities that the wolves were Faye. 716 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,720 The prime, when Bryce is talking with him, right, says that they 717 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,200 entirely forgot who they were and became tools of the asteri, 718 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,480 which checks out, right? Because when Ethan takes the 719 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,800 parasite antidote, he's like freed of this Heather and is 720 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,000 like, I can be dominant again. The Prime says we did 721 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,960 unspeakable things during the first wars. 722 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960 We yielded our true nature, lost sight of it, then lost it 723 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,800 forever, became what we are now. We say we are free wolves, yet 724 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,679 we have the collar of the asteri around our necks. 725 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,080 Their leashes are long and we let them tame us. 726 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,719 Now we do not know how to get back to what we were, what we 727 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,560 might have been. That was what my grandfather 728 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,080 told me, what I told Sabine, though she did not care to 729 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,880 listen. But I told Danica, who? 730 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,679 His hand shook. I think she might have let us 731 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,040 back, you know, to what we were before we arrived here and 732 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,120 became the asterious creatures inside and out. 733 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,719 Rajalis does eventually confirm that Danica learned that the 734 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,679 shifters were fae, which is, of course what spurred him to 735 00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,280 manipulate Micah into killing her. 736 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,400 Right. And that's how this guy in 737 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,360 Breath Chapter 73 says, of course. 738 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,040 Or quest for truth began with her Bloodhound gift. 739 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,320 Not a gift of the body strength but of magic, which is the 740 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,320 shifter should not have. You just said this. 741 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,200 Yeah. She could send other shifters 742 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,000 with strange powers like Sophie and Baxian. 743 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,160 I could found him through researching his bloodline. 744 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,880 But had she scented it too? It prompted her to investigate 745 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,480 her own bloodlines history all the way back to the shifters 746 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,520 arrival in this world to learn where her gifts came from. 747 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,960 And she eventually began to suspect the truth. 748 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,600 And then later, Rajala says Danica realized that the 749 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,360 shifters are fae. Bryce Blank. 750 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,400 What? Not your kind of fae, of course. 751 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,160 And then we read this last episode. 752 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,120 Your breed dwelled in the lovely verdant land rich with magic 753 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,920 cetera, et cetera. The Midgard shifters were fae 754 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,560 from a different planet. All the fae in that world shared 755 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,040 their form with an animal. The mayor descended from them, 756 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,920 too. Perhaps they once shared a world 757 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,640 with your breed of fae, but they had been alone on their planet 758 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,440 from long enough to develop their own gifts. 759 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,360 They don't have pointed ears. Oh, we brought that out of them. 760 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,280 It was gone within a few generations. 761 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,120 The shifters easily and swiftly forgot what they had once been. 762 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:53,080 They gladly gave themselves to us and did our bidding, LED our 763 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,800 armies and still do. The primate said something 764 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,040 similar. The wolves had lost what they 765 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,440 had once been. Danica had known that Danica had 766 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,120 known the shifters had been, had once been Faye. 767 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,000 We're still Faye, but a different kind. 768 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,160 So Danica was really inspired to look into what she was because 769 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,400 of her own power. She knew she was like, I'm a 770 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,920 Bloodhound, so I'm not just a shifter alone. 771 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,880 I have powers that shifters like that a wolf shouldn't have. 772 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,600 So like, like, what else is going on with me? 773 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,040 She looks into her own lineage in college, like when she met 774 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,280 Bryce, maybe even like maybe even right after, right before 775 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,720 she met Bryce, found these phase names, found those phase names 776 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,400 in that book about the lineage of the wolves two months before 777 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,520 she died. And that was when she learned 778 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,640 they are fae. The shifters are fae, I think. 779 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,200 I mean I think Danica has known about the shifters and Faye and 780 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,440 other worlds for a long time and I think she has known about the 781 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,720 Asteri not being these like benevolent rulers for a long 782 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,600 time as well. Which makes you wonder, why 783 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,560 didn't she tell Bryce? Why didn't she tell Bryce? 784 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,120 Yeah, OK, so I actually put together a whole fucking 785 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,200 timeline because of who I am as a person. 786 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,480 And it pretty much lines up with with what you said. 787 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,720 I think the trigger, I think the first key piece of information 788 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,600 is that Mordock came to visit Danica when she was 17, which 789 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,520 winds up with everything that you've been saying, right? 790 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,200 So I think that is when Danica realized there is something 791 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,120 different about me, right? We know that visit didn't go 792 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,960 well. We know that Mordock came home 793 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,880 and ate a human couple because he's a fucking savage. 794 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,600 Yeah. And then she goes into college 795 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,320 the next year as a history major, right. 796 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,200 So I actually have years on this. 797 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,280 This is kind of assumed. I don't actually know this, but 798 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:44,000 I think in 1527, that is when Mordock meets Danica in 1528, 799 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,160 and it come meets Bryce, right? She not only meets Bryce, she 800 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,440 means she meets Fury and Juniper. 801 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,560 So I think a couple of key things there, right? 802 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,240 Danica, as a Bloodhound, would have immediately known that 803 00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:00,720 Bryce had some kind of unusual power right before any of before 804 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,800 she saw her star, before their senior year. 805 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,960 She would have known. OK, there's something weird 806 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,080 about Bryce. I'm going to keep an eye on her, 807 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,600 right? She also meets Fury. 808 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,800 You mentioned this before, but I think this is important. 809 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,760 The quote is, I only know about it because she confronted me 810 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,080 when we first met. She sent it me and wanted to 811 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,040 understand. Fury's eyes darkened. 812 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,600 We sorted our shit out, but Danica knew something dangerous 813 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,000 about me and I knew something dangerous about her, right? 814 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,960 So we have, she's meeting Bryce, she's meeting Fury in her 815 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,280 freshman year. That is 1528. 816 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,400 We have, I'm just going to go through this quickly. 817 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,400 We know that Danica was a history major at CCU, Crescent 818 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,880 City University, but she changed her her major, right? 819 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,240 She changed what she was working on, Fury says. 820 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,560 She once told me she was doing research on something that would 821 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,200 likely land her in a heap of trouble. 822 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,320 But when I asked her later what she'd gotten on the paper, she 823 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,960 said she changed subjects. I always thought this was weird. 824 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,520 I think that paper, this isn't crazy, but is the paper in the 825 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,840 coffee table? So while she was in college, she 826 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,280 was researching the paper in the coffee table. 827 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,680 A couple of a couple other things have happened in that 828 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,040 time. So that's while Danica's in 829 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,400 college. Also, while Danica's in college, 830 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,120 she meets vaccine, right? Because Vaccine said he had two 831 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,000 years with Danica. Danica's one year out of college 832 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,360 when she dies, basically. I think she's 22, which means 833 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,840 they met in college. So the quote we get for that is 834 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,280 that's why your behavior changed. 835 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,080 You met Danica right after I left. 836 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,160 It changed everything for me. Baxi and said, how did you even 837 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,360 meet each other? Bryce demanded. 838 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,200 There was a gathering of wolves, Panjaran and Valbaran. 839 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,480 The Prime sent Danica as his emissary. 840 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,360 And then he says we met because she was researching shifter 841 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,200 ancestry. Mine is unique. 842 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,400 She wanted to know about shifter ancestry, really old shifter and 843 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,560 ancestry tree that manifested in me years after lying dormant. 844 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200 She was examining the most ancient bloodlines in our world 845 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,320 and saw a name on an early ancestors family tree that could 846 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,200 be traced all the way back to the last living descendant, me. 847 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080 So she's already researching in college, like you said, the 848 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,760 bloodlines. But something really important 849 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,160 happens with Baxian while Danica's in college, right? 850 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,720 Sandra goes into dust truth and I think that's when Danica finds 851 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,760 out about dust truth because Baxian says he told her about 852 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,280 it. So Baxian says Sandra was the 853 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,800 Asteris pet. You know that. 854 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,680 FLR She made me serve as escort on one of her visits to their 855 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,160 palace. When they brought her down to 856 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,800 the archives for a meeting. I saw them go through that door. 857 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,840 When Sandriel emerged. She was pale. 858 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,200 It was odd enough that I memorized the series of numbers 859 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,840 and letters and passed it to Danica leader as something to 860 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,880 look into. Danica became obsessed with it. 861 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,240 She wouldn't tell me why or what she thought might be in there, 862 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,200 but she had theories was that she said would alter this very 863 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,800 world, but she couldn't go in herself. 864 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,920 She was too recognized so well. So this is all aligning with 865 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,040 what you said about it. This all happening for Danica in 866 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,400 college? I think that fits. 867 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,800 I'm assuming this was 1531 because it's after Danica and 868 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,440 Baxian have met, but it is also after Hunt leaves Sandriel. 1531 869 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,760 seems to be the right time. Ethan theorizes based on this 870 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,640 college paper that Danica already knew the Asteri were 871 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,560 parasites. Right? 872 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,960 So he says like maybe Danica sniffed something out about the 873 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,360 Asteri with her. He trailed off and then added 874 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,800 gifts. If the Asteri power is just 875 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,640 everyone else's power, which we've kind of been told, right, 876 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,240 the don't actually have any of their power, they just absorb 877 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,440 mid guards power. Like has Danica already sniffed 878 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,160 that out at this point in college? 879 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,120 I think that's possible, Bryce says. 880 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,800 Well, why would it even matter if Danica had sniffed out 881 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,880 something regarding the Asteria, their holy stars, beings that 882 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,640 possess the force of an entire star within them on aging and 883 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,360 undying. But as Bryce skimmed article 884 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,640 after article, Ethan doing the same beside her, she began to 885 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,480 see that they challenged that fact. 886 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,080 And then we have that, Danica wrote. 887 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,920 All we have is proof of their so-called sacred power is their 888 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,800 word. Bryce read. 889 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,320 Who had ever seen such a star manifest itself? 890 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,720 If they are stars from heaven, that they are fallen stars. 891 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:46,840 So exactly like you said, Danica suspected in college, basically, 892 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,240 right? That the Asteria were not the 893 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,960 Asteria. I think there's some other 894 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,440 interesting things that happen after Danica and Bryce leave 895 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,280 college though, right? So obviously Danica sees Bryce's 896 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,240 star senior year when they're breaking up the illegal 897 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,720 smuggling ring. So Danica gets confirmation that 898 00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:03,640 Bryce is star born. This is where it gets fun. 899 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,520 Bryce starts to work at Griffin Antiquities the year after they 900 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,360 graduated from college, right? We know that that took a little 901 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,200 while. How did Bryce get the job at 902 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,680 Griffin Antiquities? Fury? 903 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,640 Right, so the quote is? Hunt again surveyed the space. 904 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,080 How'd you get this job? After I graduated, I couldn't 905 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,160 get a job anywhere. The museum's didn't want me 906 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,600 because I didn't have enough experience and the other art 907 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,120 galleries in town were run by creeps who thought I was 908 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,800 appetizing. His eyes darkened. 909 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,120 Blah blah blah, but my friend Fury hunts. 910 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,000 If stiffened slightly at the name. 911 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,080 He clearly knew her reputation while she and Jezebel worked 912 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,400 together in Pandora at some point, and when Jessica 913 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,800 mentioned that she needed a new assistant, Fury basically shoved 914 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,600 my resume down her throat. Danica knows something about 915 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,960 Fury. Danica needs access to books to 916 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,080 do her research. Danica probably knows that 917 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,800 Jessica has all these books at this point. 918 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,960 Did Danica actually set up Bryce getting the job at Griffin 919 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,080 Antiquities? I don't know. 920 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,640 That's just kind of a fun little side theory that I think might 921 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,480 be true. Yeah, I think the other thing 922 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,440 that is kind of messed up, unfortunately, and maybe it's 923 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,440 not, it's just messed up to think about because like, they 924 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,360 didn't overlap in Bryce's life at all. 925 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,360 But Danica likely knew about Hunt, right? 926 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,160 Because she knew about projects. There. 927 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,880 Yeah, probably, yeah. I mean, we know that Danica and 928 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,520 Sophie connected three years before House of Sky and Breath. 929 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,920 So one year before she died, she's looking into the 930 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,440 Thunderbirds. So yes, I think it is totally 931 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,280 possible that Danica knew about Hunt. 932 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,440 I think that's. I think didn't she send Sophie 933 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,080 projects there? She was like you should read 934 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,240 this. Yeah, yeah. 935 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,320 And Projects There, as we know, was written by Hunt's biological 936 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,040 father, right? Right. 937 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,680 Yeah. So I think you're right. 938 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,960 I do have one crazy quote on Project there. 939 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,080 I just want to throw this out there. 940 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,640 It might not lead to anything with Danica, but for Project 941 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,120 There. Project there, Bryce said. 942 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,680 Was Danica investigating it too. I found mentions of it after she 943 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,560 died. I don't know, Ada said. 944 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520 But the Angel was researching Thunderbirds at the behest of 945 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,720 the Esteri, who worried there might return. 946 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:03,480 So that Angel is Hunt's father. It led him to us instead. 947 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,800 When we told him the truth, he offered to help in whatever way 948 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,960 he could. Thanatose was finishing up his 949 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,960 work then, and with a male volunteer, only a female to 950 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,080 breed with was needed. Hunt's father spoke to the 951 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,680 Princess of Hell. Like what in dreams? 952 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,560 Like how I don't like this is kind of crazy. 953 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,880 I totally like glossed over this at the first point. 954 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,360 Like what's that about? And presumably Danica knew that 955 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,400 he spoke to the Princess of Hell because she read project there, 956 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,280 right? So 1532 Danica and Sophie are 957 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,360 swapping emails related to Dust, Truth and project there. 1533 958 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,000 Danica steals the horn and puts it embraces back. 959 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,640 And then 1533 Danica, the pack of devils die. 960 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,400 So she got a lot done in her 23 years of life, I think more or 961 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,720 less pretty impressive, yes. So to sum up, she seems to know 962 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,520 the origins of the bloodhounds, the origins of the shifters and 963 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,240 that they used to be Faye, the origins of the Hellhounds, the 964 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:57,440 origins of the Thunderbirds, the Esteria are parasites, and the 965 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,200 full extent of Bryce's powers. All of which is pretty, pretty 966 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,280 impressive to get done. In Curious Origins. 967 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,040 All of Fury shit she knows. She knows so much. 968 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,200 Like there's no way that we could list out everything that 969 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,040 she knows. Like, she probably knows the 970 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,320 origin of the Osteria's power. She probably knows whether Bryce 971 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,200 and the Osteria have the same power. 972 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,800 Like, as long as anyone she's been in the presence of, she can 973 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040 smell their power and their land, right? 974 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,040 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, and like it is said that 975 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,120 being a Bloodhound is dangerous. For that reason, like you, 976 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,360 people will exploit you. Yeah, Yep. 977 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,840 Yeah. So that's all I had. 978 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,400 But I think meeting Mordock was the key for this investigation. 979 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,480 Yeah, Yep. Cool. 980 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,760 OK, Abby, why did Danica put the horn on Bryce's? 981 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,760 Back right, so to sum up a little, because I, I had kind of 982 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,680 forgot the order of events here from book one, Micah claims that 983 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,880 he ordered Danica to steal the horn for him because he had dirt 984 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,480 on her for stealing since trial footage from Redner Industries, 985 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,280 which she is working at on the side of her ox job, right? 986 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,320 So Danica or Micah caused the blackout. 987 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,320 He told Danica to steal the horn. 988 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,320 Danica did, but before she could give him the horn, she grounded 989 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,200 up and put it in a tattoo on Bryce's back. 990 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,760 So I think the question is, was this kind of a crime of 991 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,960 opportunity for her? Did she know? 992 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,640 I think we've established she knew that Bryce was start one, 993 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,040 and she probably knew what the horn was based on her research 994 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,800 in college. So the question was, did she 995 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,640 know that Bryce would be able to wield the horn? 996 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,360 Was this a crime of opportunity or did she actually have some 997 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,280 kind of plan here? Did she know that Micah was 998 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,760 manipulating her? I don't know about that, but I 999 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,320 think there's a lot of interesting things to talk 1000 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,080 about, about what Danica was planning to have Bryce do with 1001 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,200 the horn, right? So we know that she knows. 1002 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,520 Suppose that synth could probably fix the horn. 1003 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,200 Right. So the quote we have for that, 1004 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,680 you caused the blackout that night she stole the horn. 1005 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,800 I did. But I underestimated Danica. 1006 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,240 She'd been worried of my interest in Sith long before I 1007 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,680 leaked it onto the streets. And when I blackmailed her into 1008 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,480 stealing the horn, she must have realized the connection between 1009 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,760 the two, that the horn could be repealed, repaired by Sith. 1010 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,640 So you killed her for it? I killed her because she hid the 1011 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,120 horn before I could repair it with the synth and thus help my 1012 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,640 people. So Mike was confirming. 1013 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,640 Yeah. Danica knew. 1014 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,840 Danica knew that the horn could be repaired. 1015 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,200 And it was pretty common knowledge that the Starborn Faye 1016 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,560 could wield the horn. So definitely kind of 1017 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,520 confirmation here. She knew Bryce would be able to 1018 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,800 do something about. The question is, what did she 1019 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,080 want? What did she want Bryce to do 1020 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,040 with it? I think this is kind of 1021 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,720 speculation here. I think we get confirmation from 1022 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,880 the Oracle. So when Hunt goes to the Oracle 1023 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,440 he says why does someone want Luna's horn? 1024 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,680 This is back in book one. We get a rasping voice slithered 1025 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,800 out of the smoke to open the doorway between worlds. 1026 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,800 A chill seized Hunt. They wish to use the horn to 1027 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,320 reopen the northern rift. The horn's purpose wasn't merely 1028 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,240 to close doors, it opens them too. 1029 00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:51,960 It depends on what the bearer wishes, right? 1030 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,840 We get no indication that Micah wanted to open the northern 1031 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,920 rift, right? Micah wanted to open the gates 1032 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,160 within Lunatheon, but there's no conversation with him about 1033 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,360 going to the Northern Rift. We know that Danica at this 1034 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,440 point, knows that the Asteria are parasites, has probably dug 1035 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,280 into the history of the first wars, definitely knows that Hell 1036 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,680 created the Thunderbirds. Right? 1037 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,560 Because she's interested in the Thunderbirds. 1038 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,320 Did she want Bryce to wield the horn and open the Northern Rift 1039 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,240 to help overthrow the Asteria? I think. 1040 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,280 I think that was Danica's plan. I don't think she knows about 1041 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,000 Prythian. I don't think she knows about 1042 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,720 Thea Star being distributed between two planets. 1043 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,400 I think that's too crazy. I do think she wanted Bryce to 1044 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,600 welcome in the Princess of hell, to take care of the Esteri, 1045 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,840 basically. I don't think that. 1046 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,840 Danica knew that hell were allies by this point. 1047 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,160 I don't. I think it would be hard for her 1048 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,880 to learn everything that she had learned and not have gotten to 1049 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,960 that point. Like if you learned the truth, 1050 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,840 which is I think what she did about everything that happened 1051 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,480 with Pelias and Helena and Daya and all of that, you know that 1052 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,520 Hell was trying to help. So I agree that could be 1053 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,200 motivator. I had like a couple different 1054 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,680 thoughts, but like all of the lead up I think is the same, 1055 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,320 right? Like at the at the end of the 1056 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,920 day, Danica made the call to powder up a broken horn and put 1057 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,240 it into Bryce's back, which is a wild call. 1058 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,240 Like especially given that did not know that an antidote for 1059 00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,800 synth would be created, that Bryce would have access to that 1060 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,760 antidote and that Micah would shoot her up with synth. 1061 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,000 I don't actually think that she thought that Bryce would ever 1062 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,600 take synth. I don't think that that. 1063 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:33,920 I think she put it into Bryce because she thought that Micah, 1064 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,000 the Archangels, the Steri, we're going to use synth to repair the 1065 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,560 horn and go conquer other worlds. 1066 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,920 And she was like, let me put it into Bryce instead. 1067 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,600 She knows what Bryce is. Bryce making the drop would 1068 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,320 generate enough first light probably to heal the horn. 1069 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,120 So if Bryce had made the drop I think without having taken synth 1070 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,520 before that I think the horn would have healed probably. 1071 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,160 Talk about the idea of synth healing the horn for a second at 1072 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,080 all anyway, because what what we're told would heal the horn 1073 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,640 is light. That is not light magic. 1074 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,040 That is not magic, right? I know that synth was the 1075 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,550 answer, but does that not also sound like the Asteri or *** 1076 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,440 born power? Like light that is not light. 1077 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,400 We talked about that last episode, right? 1078 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,920 Like Bryce's Starlight is not light. 1079 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,640 It is not a rainbow, it is an anti rainbow, right? 1080 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,840 Magic that is not magic. She doesn't actually have magic, 1081 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,320 right? Like in the Asteri don't 1082 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,520 actually have magic. They have to take magic from 1083 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,520 other people. So I know that the answer was 1084 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,280 synth, but it feels like maybe Bryce could have fixed the horn 1085 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,840 on her own. Might be a totally moot point at 1086 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,600 this point, but. Yeah, I mean, I think it is, but 1087 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,960 I think that's probably what Danica was banking on was like, 1088 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,080 if anyone's going to be able to fix this, like she's the most 1089 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,400 Starborn person to have lived since the first war, so I'm 1090 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,560 going to put it in her. And I agree with you that I 1091 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,680 think her end motivator must have been to open the northern 1092 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,200 riffs. I also think a possibility and 1093 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,600 again I I don't know right, like cuz I don't actually know the 1094 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,160 extent of bloodhounds powers. But if two things would have to 1095 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,240 be true here, right one Bryce would actually need to be part a 1096 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:13,840 steri, but to the Bloodhound power would actually need you to 1097 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,480 be able to it would it would need to allow you to be able to 1098 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,680 sniff that out. She said that like putting the 1099 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,960 horn into Bryce keeps the horn safe. 1100 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,600 It also kind of makes Bryce indestructible, right? 1101 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,440 Like it makes Bryce collateral like you need you need Bryce 1102 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,280 alive, but you can't. It made her impossible to kill. 1103 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,040 Like they they could not did not want to get rid of her. 1104 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,840 So I think it was also to protect Bryce in a way. 1105 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,800 I'm going to make you indispensable, basically, in 1106 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,200 case I can't, she says. Mostly to keep you safe in case 1107 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,480 the worst happened to me which. It yeah, says. 1108 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,520 You lied about the tattoo. Well, Bryce says. 1109 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,800 Why did you lie about the horn? I didn't lie, Danica said 1110 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,880 simply. I just didn't tell you. 1111 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,440 Bryce said you lied about the tattoo to keep you safe, Danica 1112 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,920 said. To keep the horn safe, Yeah, but 1113 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,840 mostly to keep you safe in case the worst happened to me. 1114 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,080 Could be just about keeping the secret, but also like, really? 1115 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,120 So we made. Bryce Pretty, pretty safe, yeah. 1116 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,960 In one way, it made her the biggest target in the nation. 1117 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,040 Did it? Not actually do the opposite of 1118 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,080 that actually. But also like Bryce would have 1119 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,400 just been killed by now for everything that she knew if she 1120 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,680 wasn't their way out. I don't understand, and we'll 1121 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,840 talk about this at some point, but in all of houses, Sky and 1122 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,560 Breath, right? Rigeless is encouraging Bryce in 1123 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,000 one way or another to learn how to wield her power, right? 1124 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,040 So when he appears as Aidas, he says you need to be training 1125 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,120 like you're not training. I need you training with the 1126 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,240 Reapers. He's also trying to get her to 1127 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,360 be training, basically, right? And then the explanation we're 1128 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,880 given at the end of Sky and Breath was like, he said, I 1129 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,600 needed you to wield the horn to open the gates to hell when we 1130 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,240 have literally had in not in the book before, Micah just blasting 1131 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:53,920 Bryce with power and the gates to hell opening. 1132 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,960 So like, why why does Bryce need to be trained at all? 1133 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,560 And why can't rigeless like wield the horn on his own 1134 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,240 Because he's an Asteri and the Asteri be at the trove. 1135 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:06,280 You know what I'm saying? Like just always felt really, 1136 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,160 really odd to me that piece. And like, yeah, I just, I I 1137 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,080 don't know. I don't know. 1138 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,320 Yeah, I mean, Micah blasting her just like randomly happened to 1139 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,440 open the gates. But yeah, why? 1140 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,560 Why Rigeless couldn't just blast her and open a portal? 1141 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,240 I don't know, Maybe we're going to learn something. 1142 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,600 Why can't they cut the horn off of Bryce's back? 1143 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,400 And just like, at one point, Azrael says, like, I'll cut it 1144 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,560 off you if I have to, right? Like, why can't they? 1145 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,600 Just like, why does Bryce need to be alive to wield this horn? 1146 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,640 The Asteris should be able to wield it without her. 1147 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,760 It's not like, I get it if she's the only one who has the power 1148 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,640 to wield it. But the Asteris should also have 1149 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,240 the power to be like, they made it. 1150 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,560 Yeah, Right. Right. 1151 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,640 So it's all very interesting, I think. 1152 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,440 But indeed, still, the whole thing feels insane because now 1153 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,280 someday like someone's going to harvest your corpse, but 1154 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,560 whatever. Yeah, I don't. 1155 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,160 I don't, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know what 1156 00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,280 the plan was. All right. 1157 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,160 Next question. Another, it's fine question. 1158 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,400 Yeah, go ahead. All right, Ronnie, why does 1159 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,400 Danica keep so many things from Bryce? 1160 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,200 The list that we started was Synth Murdoch being her father, 1161 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,400 Ophion, Asteria, the list goes on. 1162 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,120 Dot dot let's. Start with the list, shall we? 1163 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:20,920 Let's start with the list. An inordinate number of things 1164 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,960 secret from Bryce looting, but probably not limited to it was 1165 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,120 start from the top Bloodhound gift. 1166 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,640 The fact that her father is Mordock, which is the same 1167 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,120 thing. Therefore, the fact that she 1168 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,440 knew and when she knew and what she knew about basically 1169 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,840 everyone's heritage, Bryces heritage, Fury's heritage, 1170 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,760 Baxian's heritage, everything. The fact that she was looking 1171 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,040 into synth and everything that she learned about it. 1172 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,680 The fact that she stole Luna's horn. 1173 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,560 The fact that she tattooed Luna's horn into Bryce's back. 1174 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,160 What she learned about her own lineage and the fact that the 1175 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,960 shifters were once Faye. The fact that she was working 1176 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,120 with Ophion. Everything she exchanged with 1177 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,000 Sophie about Dusk's truth and Project Thur. 1178 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,880 If she read about Project Thur and looked into it and all and 1179 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,520 learned anything about it, anything that she learned about 1180 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,080 Hunt's heritage, like a Prince of hell, could have visited her. 1181 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,520 Atis might have chatted with her. 1182 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,160 I don't know. The fact that she had a mate and 1183 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,600 that it was Baxian. Anything else that I'm missing? 1184 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,120 Papers in the coffee table, thumb drive in the jacket. 1185 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,840 Like a lot of things. A lot of. 1186 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,560 Things. Yeah, just like many, many, 1187 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,280 many, many many things. I can only think of a few really 1188 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,200 two reasons that this would be the case. 1189 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,280 The third third being like, we're just going to find out and 1190 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,520 we just don't know yet. But one, Danica at no point 1191 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,680 expected to live and just did not want Bryce to die with her. 1192 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,880 Like at the rate that this girl was finding things out, like she 1193 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,200 had to know, right, that her days were numbered and she was 1194 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,680 just like, I'm going to find out as much as I possibly can and 1195 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:52,480 try and not put a death order on my best friend as well. 1196 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,360 The second possibility that I think is much more interesting, 1197 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,800 but I think a little bit further fetched is that maybe she she 1198 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,320 might have known about Bryce's a Steri heritage and potentially 1199 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,520 some things about Ember on Ember side that we do not fully 1200 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,960 understand. And if she had gone down the 1201 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,720 path of sharing everything that she learned with Bryce, did she 1202 00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:14,360 know that she would eventually find herself in a place and 1203 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,800 sharing with Bryce that they found themselves in a place 1204 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,480 where Bryce was not very happy with what she learned about 1205 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,880 herself? That's a good idea. 1206 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,160 I did not have that idea. Like I'm going to save you from 1207 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,040 yourself here and like I don't like what I've learned about me 1208 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,160 and I'm not going to share with with you what I've learned about 1209 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,680 you. That's an interesting line to 1210 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,440 walk, right? And it has been the line that's 1211 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,960 been walked so far, right? Because she's like leading the 1212 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,400 horse to water, right? She's like, I'm getting you so 1213 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,960 close right now. But like, if we're right, I'm 1214 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,360 not going to tell you that that piece of right, like, yeah, that 1215 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,480 you that you're probably descending from a story. 1216 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,400 If we're if we're Right, right. She's discovering that she has 1217 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,440 ties to hell, which is probably not what she wanted to hear. 1218 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,320 Yeah, she's what, going to tell Bryce that she has ties to their 1219 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,520 evil overlords? It's not fun either. 1220 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,960 Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that's part of this is that the 1221 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,360 world that Danica was in versus the world that Bryce thought the 1222 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,440 world that Danica was in was just so, so different, right. 1223 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,360 Like Danica basically knew everything that we have learned 1224 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,000 over these three books, but she knew it way earlier. 1225 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,280 And like Bryce was just kind of being a party girl, which was 1226 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,160 fine at the time, right? Like that was fine, but it would 1227 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,760 be. It was be so crazy. 1228 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,920 There is a quote somewhere about Danica thinking she was going to 1229 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,640 die. I can't remember where it was. 1230 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,600 It's like she didn't think she would live to see it. 1231 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,200 Let me just try to find it. OK? 1232 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,880 Yeah. So this is Baxi. 1233 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,680 And talking to Bryce. He says she wanted to know where 1234 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,640 we came from. The shifters of the fae, all of 1235 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,720 us. She wanted to know what we'd 1236 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,720 once been, if it might inform our future. 1237 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,840 Baxian's throat worked. She was also. 1238 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,720 She told me she wanted to find an alternative to Sabine. 1239 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,560 She was the alternative to Sabine. 1240 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,720 Bryce snapped. She had a feeling she might not 1241 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,600 live long enough for that. So it's exactly what what you 1242 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,200 said, like Danica thought she would probably die and was like 1243 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,880 making making contingency plans for that, I think. 1244 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,040 Yeah, yeah. I mean, she, she bought an 1245 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,760 apartment and put it in Bryce's name. 1246 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,560 Like, you don't do that if you think you're long for this 1247 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,720 world, you know? I hear what you're saying. 1248 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,400 Both beds in that apartment had accommodation for people with 1249 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,520 wings, for Vayner with wings, right? 1250 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,920 So either she knew that Bryce and Hunt were mates, or she was 1251 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,760 planning to move to that apartment with Baxian one day. 1252 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,360 I don't know. I don't know which one than it 1253 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,280 is but. I mean, maybe Vaccine was 1254 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,560 already spending a night there every once in a while, I don't 1255 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,400 know. That would be nice, I hope. 1256 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,720 I wish for that for them. Very well. 1257 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,880 Yeah. Wait, this is, this is 1258 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,800 interesting. Do you think she can smell? 1259 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,360 This is pure speculation territory now, but like, do you 1260 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,960 think she can smell mating bonds? 1261 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,680 I think if you've met, the answer is definitely yes. 1262 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,120 Yeah, I don't know if you've never met. 1263 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,000 Yeah, Yeah. And Hunt and Bryce had never 1264 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,640 met, but. But Danica knew Hunt. 1265 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting. 1266 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,240 I never even thought of it from that angle. 1267 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,920 What? She might have known about Hunt, 1268 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,680 right? Did she smell the hell on Hunt 1269 00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,640 too? Like. 1270 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,040 Almost certainly, yeah. Yeah, Yep. 1271 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,120 The only other thing I had here, which is kind of weak is fear of 1272 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,640 fear of Damati, like fear of fear of mind readers, fear of 1273 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,400 the Asteri or the Mystics finding out. 1274 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,400 Like basically she didn't want to put Bryce in danger, right? 1275 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,080 So like, we know there are Mystics, we know there are full 1276 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,320 Damati on a ball and right, Like if she could keep Bryce as 1277 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,320 innocent as possible, at least while she was still alive, she 1278 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,560 was protecting her in some way. But like there are some things 1279 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,600 like Mordock being her father, why wouldn't she tell Bryce that 1280 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,080 Bryce has a shitty dad? Danica knows about it. 1281 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,560 Like what's the justification for not telling Bryce that 1282 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,600 besides like kind of being a shitty friend? 1283 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,120 I don't really have. I don't really have an answer. 1284 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,360 Bryce's secret heritage, right? Yeah, right. 1285 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,280 Like you showed me mine or I showed you mine. 1286 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,520 You know, not to mention Bryce or Danica knows everyone's 1287 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,080 lineage, right? So like, why is she being so 1288 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,280 secretive about about her? So I don't know. 1289 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,440 That's all I have. For that one, yeah, Danica, she 1290 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,200 doesn't have very big hair, but she is full of secrets, so. 1291 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:06,640 Definitely full of secrets. 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We love you Anastasia. 1314 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,640 Thank you for pointing this out. Pointed out that they are not 1315 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,240 actually the same rings the way they are described. 1316 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,880 So as a refresher, what we're talking about is Lydia has a 1317 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,960 I'll just read the description Lydia's ring that we get. 1318 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,560 She wore a gold ring crowned with a square clean cut Ruby, a 1319 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,960 subtle hint of wealth that she says was a family heirloom from 1320 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,960 her father's side. We know her father is descended 1321 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,800 from Brandon, right? So again, that is a gold ring 1322 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,240 crowned with a square clean cut Ruby. 1323 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,720 So it is gold and it has a Ruby. Rowan wears a very similar ring, 1324 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,600 but it is not the same ring. So the quote for that is the 1325 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,440 thicker ring held an elegantly cut Ruby within the band itself, 1326 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,040 while the smaller one bore A sparkling rectangular emerald 1327 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,040 mounted a top, blah blah blah. So Rowan's ring has a Ruby 1328 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:06,120 within the gold ring itself. Lydia's ring has a square clean 1329 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,480 cut Ruby that crowns the ring. They're both gold and they are 1330 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,760 both Ruby. So I don't know what the fuck 1331 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,080 Sarah is doing here if I'm being quite honest. 1332 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,280 Because this is one of those things that feels like it's 1333 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,640 supposed to be a clue that these are the same rings and not 1334 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,160 Lydia. We know she's descended from 1335 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,440 Brandon, but it's also descended from Eitlin and Rowan. 1336 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,640 But then when you look at it, and I fell victim to, you know, 1337 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,240 the social media misinformation campaign, I apologize. 1338 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,840 They're not. They do not seem to be the same 1339 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,200 ring. Could they have been the same 1340 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,160 ring that was reset? Like, yeah. 1341 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,640 But it's just it's such a weird detail for them to be so similar 1342 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,000 but not the same. Can I just offer the perspective 1343 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,640 that it would be kind of the insane if it was not reset? 1344 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,320 Like Rowan is a massive. A. 1345 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,920 Warrior and Lydia has slender hands and is a deer shifter. 1346 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,280 Like, it's probably the same Ruby it's. 1347 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,200 Probably the same Ruby. I'm not disagreeing with you, 1348 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,840 but we can't say that with 100% certainty is what I'm saying. 1349 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,440 I agree without 100. Percent certainty, but I feel 1350 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,480 like to say like if I were to put one of Connor's rings on my 1351 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,800 hand and turn my hand like this, it would fall off immediately. 1352 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,960 I think they probably went to a jeweler. 1353 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,600 I think that's what happened, but it's not confirmed. 1354 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,200 The same ring. It's not confirmed. 1355 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,400 It's a good catch. Thank you. 1356 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,480 It's a good catch. Thank you, Anastasia. 1357 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,760 Great catch. The other omission I have, and 1358 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,960 you probably want to talk about it too, there are bloodhounds in 1359 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,560 Throne of Glass, right? So these bloodhounds are Val 1360 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,840 creations. I'm acknowledging that we know 1361 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,000 that they are able to shift. So we see a Bloodhound that is 1362 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,760 able to shift into a human woman. 1363 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,760 I believe it's human woman with red hair. 1364 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,920 They don't seem to have this power though. 1365 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,920 We I don't think we have any indication that the Bloodhound 1366 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,400 is able to like scent powers or family lines. 1367 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,480 I might be wrong about that, if I'm wrong let me know. 1368 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,360 I mean, it's not, it is not explicitly said that they can 1369 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:06,080 send family lines, but it is said I can now taste the wind 1370 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,280 smell. It's very marrow just as I 1371 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,720 smelled you across the land. So the the smelling and the 1372 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:17,040 tracking down is definitely there, definitely there. 1373 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,240 I agree that it's not explicitly said. 1374 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,160 It's not explicitly said that's fine. 1375 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,720 We know that Sarah likes to plant seeds and then let them 1376 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:25,760 grow later. But. 1377 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,040 Go ahead. But I do think we have, and 1378 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,440 maybe you were getting to this, we're going to talk about the 1379 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,120 fact that it is probably a shifter, like an actual shifter. 1380 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,600 No, go ahead. OK so in chapter 46 the 1381 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,960 Bloodhound is there. Manon, Alen and the Bloodhound 1382 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,280 are having a scuffle, and the Bloodhound blinked at her, then 1383 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,840 hissed. Manon let out a low laugh. 1384 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,080 Aylan said honestly. You could have just snuck in 1385 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,160 here and saved yourself 1000 stupid steps, Shifter. 1386 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,680 The thing hissed hungrily enough that Aylan's words stumbled. 1387 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,520 Its enormous eyes had gone right to Lasandra, snarling softly in 1388 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,360 the corner in ghost leopard form. 1389 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,640 Shifter. It hissed again, that longing 1390 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,200 twisting its features, and Aylan had a feeling she knew what this 1391 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,280 thing had begun as. What Erawan had trapped and 1392 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:11,400 mutilated in the mountains around Morath and shifters in 1393 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,640 Irelia have smelled bloodlines. I'm just going to put it out 1394 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:16,040 there. Which? 1395 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,360 One, because you're saying Rowan smelled. 1396 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,200 Yeah, Yeah. Rowan. 1397 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,160 Rowan takes one look at Adian and is like, you are Gabriel's 1398 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:24,960 son. Yeah. 1399 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,000 So if this were an experimented on shifter fae that happened to 1400 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,040 also have that ability, and we don't really know that it's 1401 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,480 unique to Rowan, right? It might just be of the fae 1402 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:34,760 here. Well, it seems. 1403 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,560 Like, well, first of all, it seems like I was wrong. 1404 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,280 It can definitely set powers right? 1405 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,400 Because it immediately knows that Lisandra is a shifter. 1406 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,320 Which is exactly what Rowan does too, right? 1407 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,000 Rowan looks at her and says shifter. 1408 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,280 It says shifter and also aylan. I mean I interpret that comment. 1409 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,000 I'm curious how you interpret that comment. 1410 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,760 Had a feeling she knew what this thing had begun as after being 1411 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,320 longing twisting its features. Seems like that Bloodhound was a 1412 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:00,920 shifter FAE. Was a shifter. 1413 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,880 That was experimented on by a Valg and is now a Bloodhound. 1414 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,520 A true shifter the way Lusandra's a shifter being able 1415 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,560 to shift into anything. Right. 1416 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,920 Oh, that's so interesting. So interesting, Yeah. 1417 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,200 Gran of Glass was written a long time ago, but it was Empire 1418 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,680 Storm so it was a later one. Well. 1419 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,520 I think we have some retconning of Throne of Glass because in 1420 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:28,240 Crescent City, Rajala says that Brannon created a race of stag 1421 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,960 shifters with Mala's life, right? 1422 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,920 Which is there are stags in Terracin, but like, that's not 1423 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,400 really the story that we're giving them or about the Lord of 1424 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,440 the North, right? We're not told that Brannon 1425 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,200 created them, which will definitely unpack it more in the 1426 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,360 future. But yeah, I think that's 1427 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,920 interesting. So it could be that the origins 1428 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,720 of this power are from Aurilia, as we think they are, right? 1429 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,120 Because the Bloodhounds came over and sacked Parthos. 1430 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,320 Right? But that it's Valk Origin rather 1431 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,080 than Hell. But we have talked about at 1432 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,960 length that we at least think Valk and Hell are from the same 1433 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,080 planet, so it would make sense that a Prince of Hell also had 1434 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,120 this power. Or that they're just the same 1435 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,000 thing, and that Thanatos might have been doing experiments in 1436 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,920 Aurelia. Especially Thanatos. 1437 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,080 He's not a good one, you know. Thanatos is not a Kind 1 and 1438 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,560 Thanatos would totally make this fucking creature. 1439 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,680 Yeah, I agree. I agree with you. 1440 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,520 And we're told that the wolves came over to Midgard with this 1441 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,640 ability already, right? Exactly. 1442 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:28,400 Yeah. So. 1443 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,240 So it does seem to be. It does seem to definitely be 1444 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,720 pointing towards this Bloodhound now that I think about it. 1445 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,680 Forget what I said before, I'm locking it back. 1446 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,240 I think it's this Bloodhound. I don't know, Like we have, 1447 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,320 again, we don't know whether it extends beyond Rowan, but Rowan 1448 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,640 is a totally fucking normal thing and smells everything. 1449 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:45,440 Shifter. Yeah. 1450 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:46,720 Bloodlines. All of it. 1451 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:48,000 Yeah. True, true, true. 1452 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,400 This one is called a Bloodhound, so I used to give it. 1453 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,000 I do give it points for obviousness. 1454 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,560 Yeah. Yeah, all right. 1455 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,480 Any other? No, that's all I had for this. 1456 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,560 Do you have anything I? Had the Bloodhound 1. 1457 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:03,560 So all right, why was Danica looking at and what was she 1458 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,320 trying to find in Wolves Through Time? 1459 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,000 A lineage of the Shifters? Throne of Glass spoilers 1460 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,200 version. Throne of Glass spoilers 1461 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:10,720 version. All right. 1462 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,640 So I think you've already given a good overview of what she 1463 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,479 found in Wolves Through Time. And I think you're right that 1464 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,880 basically she was just looking for confirmation that the Wolves 1465 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,720 used to be Faye. However, think think we're 1466 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,680 missing a piece of this. I want to talk about it. 1467 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,359 And I think you got there too, based on some earlier comments 1468 01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:30,240 that you made. So, but we can do it here, yeah. 1469 01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:31,960 I'm talking about it in the next question, too. 1470 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,920 Danica was also researching Brandon's line, right? 1471 01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:38,680 And we know that because of what Lydia said. 1472 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,800 So she said Lydia had known even as a child that she was pure 1473 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,640 power, and she'd kept that power buried in her veins, not which 1474 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,279 power she knew her flames were different. 1475 01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:50,880 Her father didn't have them either. 1476 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,160 She kept them secret, even from the Asteria, Especially from the 1477 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,120 Asteria. No other shifters had them to 1478 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,800 her knowledge, and she knew what revealing them would mean, 1479 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,560 becoming an experiment to be pulled apart by the Asteria. 1480 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,240 Then she had run into Danica Fendier, who had somehow learned 1481 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,600 things about Lydia's paternal bloodline and wanted to know if 1482 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,920 Lydia had any strange gifts. Fae like elemental gifts right? 1483 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,720 So this is before the antidote. Danica saying, Lydia, do you 1484 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,479 have elemental gifts like the Fae, right? 1485 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,240 I would assume that means in her research, in her research into 1486 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,479 her own line, she came across Brannon and his gifts and trace 1487 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,960 that down to Lydia. So I know there's a very popular 1488 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,920 theory out there that the Fendir line came from Fenris Moonbeam. 1489 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,920 Maybe I'd like to present a different theory. 1490 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,160 I think this is going to be Ronnie's theory too, that the 1491 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,600 wolves that least the Fendir line, perhaps all the wolves are 1492 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,520 actually related to the wolf tribe of Terrace, right? 1493 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,600 Because why would she be looking into Brandon for her own 1494 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,439 research into her own family? One. 1495 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,720 So the quotes we have about this wolf tribe, the fae who dwelled 1496 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,960 in Terrace and were not wiped out so thoroughly? 1497 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,160 Aylin said. Lorcan began grinning. 1498 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,080 They found a new home with the wolf tribe, for those were 1499 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,280 humans also riding those wolves, as all the myths had claimed. 1500 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,680 And did you know that while many of them came here with Brannon, 1501 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,680 there was an entire clan of fae who arrived from the southern 1502 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,760 continent, fleeing you? I think all of them actually 1503 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,640 right. So we have this wolf tribe that 1504 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,960 lived in the north with Terracin, north of Terracin, who 1505 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,000 lived in the north of Terracin was associated with Brandon, 1506 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,080 came over with Brandon. Danica has found Brandon's last 1507 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,400 living descendant. It also feels like we're getting 1508 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,560 set up. Sorry, that was Kingdom of Ash 1509 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,840 chapter 114. It also feels like we're getting 1510 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,480 set up for there to be more to this story with the wolf tribe. 1511 01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:39,280 So we have the quote, the Las Fey of Terracin. 1512 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,640 They're giant wolves and adopted human clan with them wanted to 1513 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,720 speak to her as much as the citizens of Orinth, how they had 1514 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,920 found the wolf tribe a decade ago, how they'd fallen in with 1515 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,440 them in the Wilds of the mountains and the hinterlands 1516 01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:53,920 beyond. It was a tale she'd soon learn. 1517 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,480 The world would learn, right? So that's Kingdom of Ash chapter 1518 01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:57,840 118. That's literally one of the last 1519 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,160 chapters of Throne of Glass. It feels like we're getting more 1520 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,480 of a story here. And then we have the wolves of 1521 01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:06,240 Crescent City, right? So again, I'm not clear if these 1522 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,320 are actually wolf shifters or if they are Faye who fell in with 1523 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,920 some kind of wolves, but it seems like she's kind of willing 1524 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,920 to retcon some of the the Throne of Glass lore that we've gotten 1525 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,320 to make it fit in with the shifters a little bit. 1526 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,480 The Brannon stag examples, right? 1527 01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:25,560 So we're told that Brannon made an army of stags with firepower. 1528 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,800 That's what we're told Brannon did, which like what? 1529 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,120 We're never told that Brandon did that Throne of Glass. 1530 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,040 So I could see this being like a little retcon to be like, Oh 1531 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,320 yeah, the wolf tribe was Fay Fay who could shift into these 1532 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,920 enormous wolves, right? These horse sized wolf. 1533 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,920 I think we'll get into it more of the next question, but I 1534 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,280 think she might have been looking for that confirmation 1535 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,080 when she was looking for the Wolves through time, some kind 1536 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,400 of connection to Brannon and Tarrison, and I think she found 1537 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:52,880 it, yeah. Yeah, I like that. 1538 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,400 I also think I think what at least at least the subset of 1539 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,880 wolves that she was looking into related to Brannon could not 1540 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,800 actually have been, and this might be obvious, but like 1541 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,560 couldn't have actually been linked to Fenris because Fenris 1542 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,560 kind of famously does not have anything other than speed 1543 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,240 strength. Like he doesn't have elemental 1544 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,520 anything, right? He just has winnowing, which is 1545 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,080 like unique and we're going to talk about it, but like he 1546 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,800 doesn't have elementals so. Yeah, he doesn't have. 1547 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,720 Elemental power Ethan because he Ethan ends up having elementals 1548 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,440 that takes out Holstrom's the fend ears. 1549 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,040 We don't actually know right? Like I don't know what Danica 1550 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,800 would have had. So like maybe that's an option 1551 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,720 still for Fenrus, but I think the Brandon 1 is more 1552 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,400 interesting, especially because I feel like Brandon in my head 1553 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,280 is still kind of like adjacent to a raw power. 1554 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,040 Pool but agree we know that Mala gifted him her flames right, 1555 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,400 which is kind of crazy. Like what do you mean that's 1556 01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:52,680 very we don't know what that means something you said. 1557 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,880 The reason I don't think the Fenris thing works and this is 1558 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,200 dumb, but his name is Fenris Moonbeam. 1559 01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,960 We know his last name. It's Moonbeam. 1560 01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:03,480 Danica's last name is Fendir. Sure there are 15,000 years 1561 01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:06,000 between here and now, but I think it's just like they used 1562 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,520 Fen because of Fenrir in Norse mythology, right? 1563 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,240 Like that's it's just meant to describe Wolf rather than meant 1564 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,640 to like fully put a line between these two characters. 1565 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:16,840 But. Yeah, that's just, I'm going to 1566 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,520 talk more about him. I don't think it's really like 1567 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,480 that last name dependent, but I don't think. 1568 01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,600 Yeah, I don't know. I think he's interesting to talk 1569 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,360 about, but I don't know that it necessarily means that. 1570 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,520 Like they need to be descended from the moon memes, if that 1571 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,200 makes sense. Yeah, I'd agree. 1572 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:31,320 But I agree with everything you said. 1573 01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:34,120 I think the brand situation is interesting. 1574 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,320 We already talked about the fact that bloodhounds are quote a 1575 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,000 steri bread, but like that's kind of bullshit as we know. 1576 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,520 I do just want to say, and maybe this is obvious, but for anybody 1577 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:48,280 who's incredibly confused, we have 99% certainty that these 1578 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,480 fae, the shifter fae are from Irelia, even though it's not 1579 01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:55,360 explicitly stated. And that is because Rajala says 1580 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,600 all fae in that world shared their form with an animal and an 1581 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,560 era fire. We get all Faye possessed, a 1582 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,880 secondary animal form. Every single Faye on Aurelian 1583 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,560 has an animal form. It's the same. 1584 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,880 Yeah, for sure. And Lydia says she can trace her 1585 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,000 line back to Brandon. I mean, it's probably the same 1586 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,280 Brandon. All right. 1587 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,400 Yeah. Why were the Esteri so 1588 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,080 interested in the breeding of the Fender line, Ronnie? 1589 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,720 So I am going to talk about Fenris in this one because last 1590 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,680 one was fair, was not about Fenris. 1591 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,320 So. So Jessica tells us directly and 1592 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,280 she has seen everything over the last 15,000 years, so she's a 1593 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,760 pretty good source. She has no reason to lie that 1594 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,120 the Fenders were carefully bred by the Asteria. 1595 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,120 So we have already read this quote, but House of Flame and 1596 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,600 Shadow chapter 45. The gift already existed amongst 1597 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,640 wolves, but the Asteria encouraged it, bred it into 1598 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,800 certain lines. They still do like Danica. 1599 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,440 Jessica's fingers resume their drumming. 1600 01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:53,840 The Fenders have been a carefully cultivated line for 1601 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,280 the Asteria. How so? 1602 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,720 That's Ethan. She fixed her blazing eyes on 1603 01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,560 him. This female had lived through 1604 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,800 all of Midgard's Asteri history. He could hardly wrap his mind 1605 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,720 around it. Didn't you ever wonder why the 1606 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,560 Fenders are so dominant generation after generation? 1607 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,960 Genetics. Yes, genetics bred by the 1608 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,120 Asteri. Sabine and Mordock were ordered 1609 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,760 to breed, but Sabine took the title from her brother. 1610 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,400 At who's urging? She's an angry, small minded 1611 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,080 female. Her brother was smarter, but 1612 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,640 clearly no male of worth. If he sold his daughter to the 1613 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,040 Astronomer, he was likely deemed unfit by the Asteri who coaxed 1614 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,800 Sabine into challenging him. And when Sabine's dominance went 1615 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,600 out, they made sure Mordock was sent to produce a line of more 1616 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:36,400 competent fenders. So we talked about Fen Reese 1617 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,960 Moonbeam and how he was a wolf shifter in Irelia. 1618 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,920 Just to quickly give a, you know, one O 1 on Fen Reese. 1619 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,000 Fen Reese and Connell are twins. They both have wolf forms that 1620 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,000 are the size of a pony, just like Danica and just like I 1621 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:56,680 think most shifters on Midgard, and they both have sworn a blood 1622 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,520 oath to Maeve. I think the reason that that 1623 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,280 Fenrus is so interesting and that potential connections 1624 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,520 between Fenrus and the wolves in general could be really 1625 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,800 interesting, is because I think we have decent reason to believe 1626 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,400 that he has lineage that somehow ties to Prythean or to the 1627 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,640 Asteria, and that is because he can win them. 1628 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:18,800 So Aylan in Empire of Storms chapter 47 says tell me how your 1629 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,400 magic works, how you can leap between places like that. 1630 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,160 He's injured at this time, a clever, easy way to keep him 1631 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,080 focused. Elsewhere. 1632 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,800 Adien scanned the deck, making sure he wasn't needed, and then 1633 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,760 carefully sopped up the blood and poisoned leaking from 1634 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,760 Fenrice's chest. It had to hurt like hell. 1635 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,800 The insistent dropping in his leg was likely nothing by 1636 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,680 comparison. No one knows where it comes 1637 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,080 from, what it is. Fenrus said between shallow 1638 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,520 breaths, fingers curling and uncurling at his sides. 1639 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,640 But it lets me slip between folds in the world. 1640 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,640 Only short distances, and only a few times before I'm drained. 1641 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,520 But it's useful on a killing field. 1642 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,360 He panted through his clenched teeth as the outer edges of his 1643 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,800 gash began to reach for each other. 1644 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,520 Aside from that, I've got nothing special. 1645 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,720 Speed, strength, swift healing, more than the average Fey, but 1646 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,200 the same stock of gifts. I can shield myself and others, 1647 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:04,000 but I can't summon an element. So he's not elemental, but he 1648 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,160 can winnow and seemingly nobody else can. 1649 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,480 And it's definitely winnowing, slipping between folds. 1650 01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:15,600 Of course, in the world, Fenrus origins and parents are a bit 1651 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,960 vague. So mother was a warrior. 1652 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,480 Our mother was a warrior, Fenrir said. 1653 01:17:19,480 --> 01:17:22,000 Each word labored. She trained us as such. 1654 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,240 This is all the same chapter. Our father was too, but was 1655 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,840 often away at war. She was tasked with defending 1656 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,200 our home, our lands, and reporting to Maeve. 1657 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,600 Rasping laboring breaths from both of them, Aiden shifted so 1658 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,200 that Aylen could lean wholly against him, biting down on the 1659 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,160 weight it put on his already swollen knee. 1660 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,080 When Con and I were 30, we were straining at the least to go to 1661 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,600 Doran, out with her to see the city, meet the Queen and do what 1662 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,920 young males like to do with money in their pockets and youth 1663 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,000 on their sides. Only Maeve took one look at us 1664 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,200 and he needs a longer to catch his breath this time. 1665 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,360 It didn't go well from there. We don't have a great timeline 1666 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,360 for the events of Throne of Glass, Throne of Glass versus 1667 01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:00,120 the events in Crescent City because Times Rift, but we do 1668 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,600 have a very good reason to believe that the Esteri had 1669 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,120 already been on on Irelia by the time the events of Throne of 1670 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,680 Glass happened. I think there were probably 1671 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,640 multiple visits because we're told the mayor descended from 1672 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,640 them, but they also predate the Asteri. 1673 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,200 That's a different topic. But the reason that we the 1674 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,640 reason we have good reason to believe that the Asteri were 1675 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,880 there before the events of Throne of Glass, because there 1676 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,080 is a Fey territory you've talked about this already called 1677 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,000 Asterion. So in Tower of Dawn chapter 33, 1678 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,200 only Faye blades could remain this sharp after 1000 years, 1679 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,280 said Sartok, setting down the knife he'd been inspecting, 1680 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,320 likely forged by the Faye Smiths in Asterion, to the east of 1681 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:40,000 Dornell, perhaps even before the first of the Demon Wars. 1682 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,000 A Prince who had studied not only his own empire's history, 1683 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,640 but that of many others. History was not, was certainly 1684 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,920 not her strongest subject. So she asked Asterion. 1685 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,880 Like the horses one and the same great Smiths and horse breeders, 1686 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,520 or so it once was before board is closed and the world 1687 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,000 darkened. So I think one of two things 1688 01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,800 could be happening with fenry specifically, and I promise it 1689 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,360 ties back to Danica somehow. So I think this could be proof 1690 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,040 that winnowing does come from the Asteria, right? 1691 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,080 That world walking at one point did come from the Asteria and 1692 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,520 that winnowing was is a mini version of that. 1693 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,200 That it also could mean, and this would be really 1694 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,880 interesting, that somehow a fae from Prythian, if this is a 1695 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:25,880 Prythian abundant ability, had made it to Irelia somehow and 1696 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,720 had fun. Reese either way, right? 1697 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:32,240 If there is if there is a wolf shifter out there within a Steri 1698 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,320 ability and we have a link between the wolf shifters of 1699 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,360 Irelia and wolf lines in Crescent City. 1700 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,080 If I'm a Steri I'm pretty focused on that. 1701 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,080 Like that can be really interesting to me. 1702 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,400 Star born wolf shifters. And it kind of feels like one of 1703 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,160 these has to be true. And crossbreeding seems possible 1704 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,600 if not likely considering that Tamlin and all of the high Lords 1705 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,720 of Prythian have ties to obese form. 1706 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,520 Like they have ties to obese form and the shifter Fey are 1707 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,800 from Irelia. And if Danica stood on top of a 1708 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,960 massive claim to power before making the drop, I would not be 1709 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,640 surprised if she were somehow related to. 1710 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,040 And stereo adjacent star born adjacent, something wolf shifter 1711 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,560 line. There is a wolf star. 1712 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,400 There's a wolf star. We've not talked about Sirius, 1713 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,640 but there's a wolf star. Napoleon ate her, but she 1714 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,320 existed at one point. All this to say, I think 1715 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,720 Venreese is very interesting because the fact that he has a 1716 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,000 star, like let's just call it a star born ability, because we 1717 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,280 don't really know whether it's Prithian ability or an Asteri 1718 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,600 ability, But he's a wolf shifter with a star born ability and 1719 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,840 he's the only one who has it, could have very interesting 1720 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,200 implications even if we don't have anyone descended from him, 1721 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,720 even if these timelines are in parallel, like he's descended 1722 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:43,480 from someone. Yeah. 1723 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,600 Think yes, I agree with you. I think it's AI do think it is. 1724 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,040 The implication is that Danica might be from a star born line 1725 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,880 as well, but I think it might be. 1726 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:54,920 I don't think it has to be only one. 1727 01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,680 It seems like all of these wolves could potentially be 1728 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,120 Starborn, because so you mentioned the Astarian fae, 1729 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,440 right? And Sartok and Nesrin are 1730 01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:08,680 talking about them. They came from east of Dornell, 1731 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,640 but now they're on the southern continent, right? 1732 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,000 So they're on the southern continent. 1733 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,960 That's where Sartok and Nesrin are. 1734 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:19,520 We have Keol and Irene in the desert talking about Irene's 1735 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,160 healing gift, which is death, which is very death. 1736 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,440 Maiden A, which we talked last episode, seeming very similar to 1737 01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:28,120 the powers of creation and destruction that Bryce seems to 1738 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,480 have with the terraforming and the black hole. 1739 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,360 At the very least, it's very similar to Rune's gift, right? 1740 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,280 So we have Faye. Magic is passed down through 1741 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,560 their bloodlines. It doesn't appear at random. 1742 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,880 Perhaps these people came here, these people I believe being the 1743 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,600 hysterian Fae who were originally from the east east of 1744 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,320 Dornell, coming to the southern continent and then were 1745 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,720 forgotten by the world forces, good and evil. 1746 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,800 Perhaps they knew this place was far away enough to remain 1747 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,000 untouched, that wars would be waged elsewhere by them. 1748 01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,600 He jerked his chin to a carving of a Valk soldier. 1749 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,600 While the southern continent remained mostly mortal held, 1750 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,560 while the seeds planted here by the Fae were bred into the human 1751 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,120 bloodlines and grew into a people gifted and prone to 1752 01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,640 healing magic. So the theory is that the fae 1753 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,440 came from Doranal to the southern continent and bred 1754 01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:18,200 their healing magic. The Hysterion fae bred their 1755 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,520 healing magic, which seems to be potentially starboard magic, 1756 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,360 into the human lines. We are told that the fae 1757 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,200 actually learned this healing magic from somewhere else. 1758 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,000 Right, so the quote is. Irene leaned against the ancient 1759 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,160 work table as Hafiz sat and interlaced her fingers in her 1760 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,160 lap. She told me that long ago, 1761 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,560 before man stumbled here, before the horse looks and the rooks 1762 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,080 above the steps, this land indeed belonged to Fae, a small, 1763 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,800 Pretty Little Kingdom. Its capital here, Antica, was 1764 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,440 built atop its ruins. She rambled about how they had 1765 01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:50,760 left their knowledge of healing for us to find, that they had 1766 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,480 stolen it from elsewhere, and that their teachings form the 1767 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:57,480 basis of the Tor. So now we have potentially the 1768 01:22:57,480 --> 01:23:01,000 Asterian face stealing knowledge of healing. 1769 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,000 We're calling it healing, but it might actually be star worn 1770 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,040 abilities from elsewhere. Seems like probably from the 1771 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,920 Asteri and leaving it for the humans to find. 1772 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:14,080 These are the same fae you'll recall in my last quote go end 1773 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,560 up going north, right? End up going north and meeting 1774 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,040 up with the wolf tribe, right? So we have from east of Dornell, 1775 01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,160 we have the Astarian Fae going South of the continent and then 1776 01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,040 going north to Terrace and to meet up with the wolf tribe. 1777 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,880 I think it's totally possible that Danica and perhaps other 1778 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,680 wolves as well, exactly what you said, have the cisterry 1779 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,360 bloodline, have this Astarian fae bloodline. 1780 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,520 It merged with the wolf shifters, and now the Astaria 1781 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,960 are like keeping a close, close eye to make sure that that power 1782 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,000 does not crop up. Yeah. 1783 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,400 I would bet that she is descended from some Starborn 1784 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:51,840 wolf shifter line and the Asteri are monitoring very closely but 1785 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,040 also trying to make sure like I mean they are trying to make 1786 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,760 sure that she doesn't get too powerful, right? 1787 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,520 The thing that breaks like the reason that this doesn't work is 1788 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,840 because if, if they are Asteri at all, they can't be too 1789 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,200 Asteri, right? Because then she wouldn't. 1790 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,040 Bryce did not have any indications that she would claim 1791 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,760 any power because she had none. Danica seems to have indications 1792 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,840 that she would claim a lot. So maybe she's just already a 1793 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,800 very powerful fae that has, you know, a steri ability otherwise, 1794 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,920 and that's just the case. But then she can't she it must 1795 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,200 be very small, must be like room status. 1796 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:25,880 Yeah, I and I would agree with that. 1797 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,320 I mean, I think that lines up with what, like it could be the 1798 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,960 the Asteria are actually trying to breed that power out of the 1799 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,400 Fendir line instead of like, you know what I mean? 1800 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,880 Like they were trying to make sure, OK, this this is the line 1801 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,960 that still has that power. We need to make sure that 1802 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,000 they're not getting it. I would agree with that. 1803 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,280 It also could be that she had some really strong elemental 1804 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,680 power and we just don't know what that's going to be. 1805 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,040 But I think I do want to talk about Danica's name. 1806 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,120 Or did you want to talk about it? 1807 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,720 Because you were the one who found this first. 1808 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,200 You can say it. I mean, it's, yeah, it's 1809 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,120 Morningstar. Right so Danica's name means 1810 01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,680 Morningstar, right? Like that is the meaning of the 1811 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,040 word Danica. I don't think there's any way 1812 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,880 it's a coincidence that Bryce has the power of the Evening 1813 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:08,040 Star and her best friend's name means Morningstar, right? 1814 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,200 Like that just seems almost impossible. 1815 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,040 So is that a clue pointing us towards hey like Danica might 1816 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:18,360 also have some star born power from not from Prithean, from 1817 01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,560 Aurilia, from a completely different place, completely 1818 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,800 different line. Maybe it's from Sirius and we 1819 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,080 will still get that story. I mean, I don't know what 1820 01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,400 Crescent City 4 is going to be, but like are we going back to 1821 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,520 Aurelia? It seems like we probably are, 1822 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,280 given that Crescent City 3 was so heavily Prythian focused. 1823 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,840 And I think we'll at least get answers to the Irelia question. 1824 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,080 And I think we have, I think it has to be the wolf tribe in 1825 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,000 Terracin because Ethan's element is snow. 1826 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,440 It's feeling, it's feeling very north. 1827 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,200 It's feeling N, It's feeling N But that being said, Aylin's 1828 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,720 power is fire, so I don't know. You know, she's she's also from 1829 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:56,400 the North. Yeah. 1830 01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:57,760 Yeah. I hear. 1831 01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,600 I hear what you're saying. For sure. 1832 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,680 It'd be fun. That would be fun. 1833 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,640 I'd give that like a 5% chance of being right, at least how I 1834 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,840 feel about it. But like, I think we both got 1835 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,520 there independently, right. So that usually means there's 1836 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,680 some merit. All right, Abby, what did Danica 1837 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,720 want to know about Maxion? So. 1838 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,880 We've already talked about the quotes about wanting to look 1839 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,200 into Baxian's back story, the similarities. 1840 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:23,560 I don't think this is that crazy. 1841 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,080 We know that Baxian is half shifter, half Angel. 1842 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,560 We get his back story in Flame and Shadow. 1843 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:34,040 But we know that something about his shifter ancestry is unique, 1844 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:35,720 right? Because he is a hell hound. 1845 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,320 He's not like a normal dog. He is literally called a hell 1846 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,520 hound. And Danica is looking into his 1847 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,000 shifter ancestry. So it's not that it's not that 1848 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,600 he's half Angel that interests her. 1849 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,240 She's really only interested in the shifter piece. 1850 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:53,360 So the descriptions of Baxian's beast form and the shepherd in 1851 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,760 the Bone quarter are very, very, very similar, right. 1852 01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,120 So we get from Baxian, we get. The latter was currently in his 1853 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,480 large canine form, his coat a slick black. 1854 01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:05,880 He'd seen Baxian RIP limbs from opponents with those jaws and 1855 01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,080 move as fast on land as he did and in his Moloch form as a 1856 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,480 sensing his attention, Baxian turned his head. 1857 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,920 His dark eyes gleamed. So we have very large canine 1858 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,360 slick back coat we have. He went still at the site of the 1859 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,640 sleek black dog running along one of the dry white cliffs of 1860 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,600 the island. Its coat was a strange matte 1861 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,080 black. He knew that dog, that 1862 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,800 particular shade of black, like the wings it bore. 1863 01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,760 In another form, we have a black dog, massive, with fangs as long 1864 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,240 as Hunt's hands. The hellhound motioned to the 1865 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,920 throne with a clawed paw. And then he says, Vaccine says. 1866 01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,720 I grew up in one of the poorer parts of Ravellus Villous. 1867 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,880 Yeah, being half shifter, half hell hound shifter and half 1868 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,880 Angel, it didn't make my parents popular with either the House of 1869 01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,360 Orison blood or the House of Sky and breath made it harder for 1870 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,760 them to keep their jobs. So being 1/2 hell hound shifter, 1871 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,120 being a hell hound shifter at all seems to be kind of like a 1872 01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,800 pariah status within the shifter community, right? 1873 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,960 And So what is the hell hounds? Then we get the shepherd. 1874 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:04,720 Allow me to introduce my shepherd. 1875 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,640 The under king said from the mist ahead, standing beside a 10 1876 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,800 foot tall black dog. Each of its fangs was as large 1877 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,880 as was as long as one of his fingers, all hooked like a 1878 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,000 shark's, designed to latch into flesh and hold tight while it 1879 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,000 ripped and shredded. His eyes were Milky white, 1880 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,880 sightless, identical to the Under Kings. 1881 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,520 And then we later see more of these hounds in hell behind 1882 01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,280 Thanatos. So it's a hell like is back. 1883 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,520 Has Baxian's line also been fucked with by the Princess of 1884 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,160 Hell? Was he somehow created by hell? 1885 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,800 I think that makes sense. I don't think that's crazy. 1886 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,960 We also, of course, have bird hounds, which we've talked about 1887 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,800 at length on this podcast, but they're not really dogs. 1888 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,920 We've talked about this. They're made of stone. 1889 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:48,120 The quote is the creature Rose, it's Blackstone body cutting 1890 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,840 through the water with hardly a ripple. 1891 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,680 That's Queen of Shadows chapter 27. 1892 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,920 And then her heart leaped into a wild beat and she willed it to 1893 01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,720 calm as she took in the details of the creature that now stood 1894 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,800 waist deep in the pool, water dripping off its massive arms 1895 01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,080 and elongated Serpentine. Now she'd seen it before, one of 1896 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,040 eight creatures carved into the clock tower itself, 8 gargoyles 1897 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,040 that she'd once swore and had watched her. 1898 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:13,440 So I think either way, if it's a word hound situation or if it's 1899 01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:17,320 a hell hound situation, Hell Valk origins with Baxian most 1900 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,360 likely. I think the real question here 1901 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:24,560 actually is similar to Danica's Bloodhound gifts, right was 1902 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,920 back. Did the hell hounds exist before 1903 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,760 the shifters came over to Midgard? 1904 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,280 Did they exist on Aurilia? And does that mean the Princess 1905 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,880 of Hell were doesn't were involved in Irelia if they're 1906 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,720 not Valk? If they are Valk, then I think 1907 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,920 it's obvious, right? But if they're not Valk, were 1908 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,760 they still involved in Irelia? I don't know. 1909 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,720 That's the speculation, yeah. I want to know who the single 1910 01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,720 ancestor was for whom he's the last living descendant. 1911 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,400 Yeah, I don't have an answer. No, I definitely don't have an 1912 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,280 answer. I don't know, yeah. 1913 01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,720 I think it's fun, yeah. But I think he's I think it's 1914 01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,720 got to be related to the fact that he was a Hellhound shifter 1915 01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,400 and that she was looking into her Bloodhound gift, which we. 1916 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,480 Think right? It seems like she was very 1917 01:30:03,480 --> 01:30:08,760 focused on hell adjacent people, Thunderbirds, Baxian herself, 1918 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,840 and then Brannon, right? And that part of Terracin? 1919 01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,600 Yeah, I'm also sure once they and I'm surprised more people 1920 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,040 don't like ask this question or didn't ask this question once 1921 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,360 they found out, like once they solidified as mates, wouldn't it 1922 01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:26,000 become even more apparent that they, the shifters were fae 1923 01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,320 because only amongst the fae are mates. 1924 01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:32,880 Century, say in Midgard physical bond that is like more serious 1925 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,120 than husband and wife. And you wouldn't like 1926 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,920 specifically for vaccine and Danica who are like on opposite 1927 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,800 sides of the world and vaccine is like not a good guy at this 1928 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,480 time. And Danica is just there and 1929 01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:46,160 like what? They lock eyes and and that's 1930 01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:47,840 it. And you're wolves, allegedly. 1931 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,560 I mean it raises the same question for Hunt, right? 1932 01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,120 Like he has a mate. Like is he Faye? 1933 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,000 I think totally possible. But like what are the origins of 1934 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,720 the angels? From something right And I would 1935 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,480 assume that humans are not the most powerful base to start 1936 01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:03,600 with, so. I would agree. 1937 01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,680 I kind of think that everyone's Faye until. 1938 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:07,880 Until proven otherwise. Until. 1939 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,240 Proven otherwise, especially once the Esteri fest UPS of 1940 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,920 breeding pointed ears out of the shifters. 1941 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,120 I'm like, all right, well, who's even fucking human? 1942 01:31:17,480 --> 01:31:19,120 Right. Well, wait, because we also have 1943 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,080 the witches who were from Faye and Valk. 1944 01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,200 They have Round Ears and the Alerians. 1945 01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:23,920 Who? Right. 1946 01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,760 Yeah. Yeah, I'm not so Dorian that 1947 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,520 you're a human. Well, we know he has Faye 1948 01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,080 ancestry, yeah. Certainly. 1949 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,920 Yeah. All right, precog corner. 1950 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,840 Abby, what is your precog corner? 1951 01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:40,480 Theory. I love my precog theory this 1952 01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:44,080 week. All right when Nesta and Bryce 1953 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,400 are in the caves Nesta asked Bryce how she ended up with a 1954 01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,920 tattoo in the same language as the book of breathings. 1955 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:54,400 So art has the quote is art has a universal language, Nesta 1956 01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:55,760 says. Like the one tattooed on your 1957 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:56,880 back. Bryce says. 1958 01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:58,400 All right, their turn to ask questions. 1959 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,400 Your friend Ameren, she said it was the same as the language in 1960 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,880 some book as real asked stone faced. 1961 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,000 What do you call it in your world, that language? 1962 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:07,760 Bryce shook her head. I don't know. 1963 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,960 I told the truth earlier. My friend and I got it. 1964 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,440 We had a lot to drink one night. I barely remember it. 1965 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,720 She said it meant through love all is possible. 1966 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,520 She claims she picked the alphabet out of a book in the 1967 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,040 tattoo shop, but I don't think that was the case. 1968 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:21,720 Azrael asked. How did your friend know the 1969 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,200 language? I still don't know. 1970 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,080 I've been trying to figure out what she knew for months now. 1971 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:27,960 Why not just ask her Nesta counter. 1972 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,680 Because she's dead. We have speculated that this is 1973 01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,120 word marks. Doesn't matter for my precog 1974 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:34,960 theory. Could be word marks, could not 1975 01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,560 be word marks. I would like to remind all of 1976 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,560 you of this very important passage of the books that are in 1977 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,480 Jessica Rogas library. All right, so we have. 1978 01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:47,520 Micah loomed over her. She stretched her arm out toward 1979 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,720 the shelf. Her tingling fingers brushed 1980 01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:54,200 over the titles on the Divine Number, The Walking Dead, the 1981 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,480 book of breathings, The Queen with many faces. 1982 01:32:57,480 --> 01:33:02,200 OK, so the book of breathings is in Jessica Rogas library, the 1983 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,960 library that Danica perhaps set up her friend specifically to 1984 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:10,040 have a job at so that she could go rudling through it to borrow 1985 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,000 a word from Sarah. So I think Danica knew the 1986 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,800 language that was the Book of Breathings because she has read 1987 01:33:17,480 --> 01:33:20,520 the Book of Breathings because it is in Jessica's library. 1988 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,200 But this also brings up a very good point. 1989 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,400 Whether or not this is wordmarks, The Walking Dead is 1990 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,040 right there. The Walking Dead is shelved next 1991 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,480 to the Book of Breathings in Jessica's library, right? 1992 01:33:31,480 --> 01:33:34,440 So take everything we just said and kind of throw it out for a 1993 01:33:34,440 --> 01:33:36,840 second. Perhaps did, did Danica have 1994 01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,520 access to wordmarks? Could Danica have been opening 1995 01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:44,440 portals and talking to people? And is Danica's tattoo also word 1996 01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:46,240 marks? I mean, I think we know that it 1997 01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,560 is. Danica also has word marks 1998 01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,760 tattooed on her. So I know she's dead. 1999 01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,320 I know she's dead. But what did those word marks do 2000 01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,720 to her, right? Because we know it brought alien 2001 01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,200 back from the dead. It brought her home. 2002 01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,760 Like Danica has seemed to have a lot of power from beyond the 2003 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,120 grave. What is going on here is my 2004 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:03,480 question. But I don't know. 2005 01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:04,880 Any thoughts on that one I just got? 2006 01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,040 That was just kind of like a holy shit moment for me. 2007 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,680 I think it makes perfect sense that she tattooed that 2008 01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,880 intentionally with the language of the Book of Breathings, with 2009 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,960 the knowledge that the Book of Breathings would be recognizable 2010 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,040 by the Starborn Faye. Somehow. 2011 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,120 I think that's interesting. As far as how whether she is 2012 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:25,040 world walking, that would be wild. 2013 01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,400 It would be wild. That would be totally wild. 2014 01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,960 I totally put that out there. The Book of Breathings was 2015 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,400 written by the Esteri no matter what, right? 2016 01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,800 We were told that the book of breathings, well, I guess it's 2017 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,560 not 100% confirmed, but it is strongly implied that the book 2018 01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,240 of Breathings is written by the Esteri. 2019 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:41,120 And now Bryce has a tattoo and they're later on we're back, 2020 01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,160 right? We know that it is in there. 2021 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,040 But this is this is how she she just read it. 2022 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,600 It was just right there and she read it right. 2023 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,320 Like yeah, I love that we never. Learned right? 2024 01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,840 Like how or why the command through love always possible? 2025 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,640 Is the command right? Yeah, well, that's what Danica 2026 01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,440 said it meant. But Micah says it's instructions 2027 01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:04,000 on how to open a portal to another world or something. 2028 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,960 Like, I don't actually think we know what this tattoo means. 2029 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,560 And I do think do think it matters because it was on 2030 01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,120 Danica's back, too. They got matching tattoos, 2031 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:13,760 right? Like that feels important. 2032 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,840 Yeah. But she just wrote in like their 2033 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,920 native language through love all as possible on vaccines chest. 2034 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,200 On vaccines, she did, Yeah, Yeah. 2035 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,240 Whatever is happening, he's getting left behind. 2036 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,480 Speaking of Vaccine, I do want to add 1 quote here which I 2037 01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:33,680 think might be important. Vaccine said when he met, when 2038 01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:37,920 he told Danica about Dust truth, she started hunting for a way 2039 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,640 into a world where we could be together. 2040 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:44,400 Since there was no way Sabine or Sandra or even the Estero would 2041 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,720 have allowed a way into a world where they could be together 2042 01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,160 right? Literally. 2043 01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,400 Literally. I think that was literal. 2044 01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:53,840 Yes definitely. I agree. 2045 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,200 I mean she she literally found that the shifters. 2046 01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,880 There are other worlds. The world, yeah, I mean, it 2047 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,920 wasn't private that there were other worlds, but she found 2048 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,080 basically maps to other worlds, which I don't think was 2049 01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,800 available before she. Found a lot more than other 2050 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,440 people did, right? So like, I don't love this idea, 2051 01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,920 but like, are we still getting set up somehow for a Danica 2052 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,960 vaccine happy ending in another world somewhere? 2053 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,240 Because she has potentially word marks tattooed on her back. 2054 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,680 Obviously we've dealt with her being dead. 2055 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,480 She's been pretty dead. But even that was kind of walked 2056 01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:28,320 back, right? Because at the end of Crescent 2057 01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,040 City one, there's supposed to be nothing left of Danica, right? 2058 01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,920 Like she used her last scrap of power to do the drop with Bryce. 2059 01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,600 But then at the end of Crescent City 3, we see her in the land 2060 01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,880 of resting, whatever that is. We don't really know what it is, 2061 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,080 but like, there's clearly some scrap of Danica still out there. 2062 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:45,960 So did she tattoo coordinates on herself? 2063 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,640 Is she just waiting for Baxian somewhere and they'll be 2064 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:49,720 together? I don't know. 2065 01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:51,160 That would be a nice happy ending. 2066 01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:54,120 It would suck for Bryce. It would totally suck for Bryce, 2067 01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:55,760 but I. Think no matter what that's 2068 01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,320 going to happen, even if it's just them dying but. 2069 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,440 They're dead together, yeah. In another world, yeah. 2070 01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:03,600 I don't know. I don't know. 2071 01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,120 I still think it's very possible and like, if not likely, that 2072 01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:11,200 she was trying to find her way actually into another world, 2073 01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,000 actually to world walk into a world, into her home world that 2074 01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:18,320 was also Vaccine's home world for them to be together and she 2075 01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,160 just didn't live. And that's also fair, yeah. 2076 01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:24,720 I, I, I definitely take that literally into a world, Into a 2077 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:28,200 world, Not a way to change the world, a way into a world. 2078 01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,560 So and she would have known that Bryce could have helped her got. 2079 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:31,880 There. Maybe that's why she put the 2080 01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,600 horn in Bryce's back. Yeah, because she wanted her to. 2081 01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:36,480 I. Was just going to say she wanted 2082 01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:38,840 Bryce to open a portal for her and vaccine to fuck off it. 2083 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,120 Yeah. That wouldn't have been a very 2084 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,240 good friend. But was Danica a good friend? 2085 01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,400 I don't. Know I'm not sure, but I do 2086 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,960 think that in order for it to be foolproof, you need Bryce to 2087 01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,120 come with you. Otherwise, Bryce could always 2088 01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:51,640 open it back up from wherever she. 2089 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:52,440 Is yeah. OK. 2090 01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:55,160 What's your precog? So mine, mine is not new, but 2091 01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:58,680 it's just another quote that I didn't bring up the first time I 2092 01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:02,720 had this precog, which is the precog that Eris is learning 2093 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,840 things from Einer and Morven potentially. 2094 01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,640 And that is the Ley lines quote, which is not new to either of 2095 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,640 us, but maybe is new and interesting to you guys. 2096 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,720 I don't think we've read it. Yeah, I keep talking like we've 2097 01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:15,920 been talking about Crescent City forever because I feel like we 2098 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,360 have been, but it's. Actually, like we have. 2099 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,760 So. So Bryce and Ada's are talking 2100 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:21,200 about Ley lines. Bryce says. 2101 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:22,760 Ley lines? Ada's nodded. 2102 01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,760 These lines are capable of moving magic, but also carrying 2103 01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:30,320 communications across great distances, like those between 2104 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,520 the gates of Crescent City. The way she'd spoken to Danica 2105 01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,800 the day that she made the there are Ley lines across the whole 2106 01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:40,280 of the universe and the planets like Midgard, like hell, like 2107 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,120 the home world of the fae Prythian atop those lines are 2108 01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,520 joined by time and space and the void itself. 2109 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:47,520 It thins the veils separating us. 2110 01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:51,000 So the original like impetus for this quote was the fact that the 2111 01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:55,360 caves and of all in the caves of Princess, The Cave of Princess 2112 01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,440 and the caves under the Hewn city and under the prison are 2113 01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:02,800 said to be identical, right? And the caves under a Valin, we 2114 01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,880 know we're made of black salt. We don't know about the caves 2115 01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:07,560 under the caves in Prothean. I'll just say. 2116 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,240 But I think this quote is basically confirmation that it 2117 01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:14,400 is maybe not confirmation. It's highly possible, if not 2118 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,520 probable that you can communicate between those places 2119 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,440 because they're both thin. They're both thin places. 2120 01:39:20,480 --> 01:39:23,320 And we are told the Ley lines there are Ley lines across the 2121 01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,720 whole of the universe. They carry communications across 2122 01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:29,440 3 distances, and Midgard, Hell and Prythian all sit on top of 2123 01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:31,680 them and they sit on top of thin places. 2124 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,600 So. So if you are in the caves in a 2125 01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:38,320 Valin and you're in the caves in Prythian and you are trying to 2126 01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:41,640 communicate between those two places and you have a means to 2127 01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:43,920 do it. You don't need to wait for like 2128 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:47,560 Napoleon does, like an autumnal equinox most likely, or 2129 01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,520 something like that to communicate. 2130 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,880 Yeah, because they can carry communications. 2131 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,760 I feel also under that how Eris knows everything that he knows, 2132 01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,600 and I think this is also why the Autumn King is recording every 2133 01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,520 single thing that he learns in the home language, the Starborn 2134 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,800 language, the language that they speak on Prithian, which he just 2135 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,920 knows. Yeah, I also caught that and I 2136 01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,640 underlined it and I was like, Ronnies, right? 2137 01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,120 Ronnies, right. But what I also think is 2138 01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,480 interesting base. I mean, we see, we see Bryce do 2139 01:40:16,480 --> 01:40:18,120 this, right? We see Bryce do this with Prince 2140 01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:19,480 of Hell. She communicates with them in a 2141 01:40:19,480 --> 01:40:22,000 thin place. But that also means that the 2142 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,000 city of the Dead in Hell is probably a thin place. 2143 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,160 And it looks so much like the human city, Right? 2144 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,320 So is it another case of like 2 overlapping places? 2145 01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,440 Like, is it a thin place with the human city? 2146 01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:34,200 Yeah. And could. 2147 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,040 Do we even need to go to the case? 2148 01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:36,920 Yeah. Yeah. 2149 01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:38,720 I don't know. Very interesting. 2150 01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,880 I love it. Or is Eris just being visited by 2151 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,120 Edison told all of this? I don't know, but I feel pretty 2152 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,560 good about the fact that Eris has a line of communication to 2153 01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:49,920 someone, whether it's in Midgard, whether it's in hell. 2154 01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:54,040 He is making alliances with Kier to get into these caves and This 2155 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,200 is why. I mean, she's set up so much 2156 01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,360 potential for what she could do in Perthian based on all of 2157 01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,520 these rules she's made in Midgard, basically. 2158 01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,440 And it's basically just going to come down to how much of 2159 01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:08,400 Crescent City does she want to overlap in Perthia and how much 2160 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,880 does she want to leave it alone? I think, yeah, yeah. 2161 01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:13,680 But you have to tell me how Iris knows that the prisons pass. 2162 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:15,800 I have no answers for you. I do not. 2163 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,320 Own you, Sarah. Oh Sarah, I agree, we are owed 2164 01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,280 that that answer. Yeah, yeah, All right. 2165 01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,160 Read and corner. Abby, what are you reading? 2166 01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:28,840 OK so I have read since we last spoke tomorrow and tomorrow and 2167 01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,960 tomorrow I finished it. I want to walk something back. 2168 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:34,360 I said it was a romance. I thought it was a romance. 2169 01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,840 It's not a romance at all. It actually says on the back 2170 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:40,960 cover it's a love story but not a romance, which totally makes 2171 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,400 sense based on the way it's written. 2172 01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,160 It's not a romance. It's a beautiful, beautiful book 2173 01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,360 though. I I really, really loved it. 2174 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:52,640 There is a chapter in this book that I have probably like. 2175 01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,920 Never felt as emotional about a chapter as this chapter. 2176 01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,000 I don't want to go into details because I don't want to ruin it, 2177 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:02,960 but if you are looking for a deeply moving fantasy break, 2178 01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,320 that's still very good. Very well written. 2179 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,600 Highly, highly recommend Tomorrow and Tomorrow and 2180 01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,280 Tomorrow. I am not the first person to 2181 01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,600 recommend this book by any means, I recognize that, but I'm 2182 01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:13,440 just putting my stamp of approval on it. 2183 01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:16,240 I also mentioned that I was going to start Shield of 2184 01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:20,200 Sparrows as my reward book for finishing Crescent City. 2185 01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,760 I have finished Shield of Sparrows, like finished it 2186 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,360 yesterday. So people are raving about the 2187 01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:28,360 Rights of the Starling, which is the sequel all over social 2188 01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,440 media. I will say I'm 4 chapters into 2189 01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:33,440 the Rights of the Starling. I started it last night. 2190 01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:36,720 I thought Shield of Sparrows was good, but I didn't think it was 2191 01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:39,240 anything special. I was like, yeah, this is a good 2192 01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,880 passable romantic. See, like not a lot happens. 2193 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:45,280 It's definitely more focused on kind of the romance than any 2194 01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:46,240 action. Yeah. 2195 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,640 And obviously kind of the gold standard for that is Mist and 2196 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,360 Fury and it's not really up there with Mist and Fury in my 2197 01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:52,720 opinion. But I was like, this is good, 2198 01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:56,080 this is fun, it's passable. I'm 4 chapters into the rights 2199 01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,960 of the Starling and everything has changed and I'm so locked in 2200 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:01,680 and I'm so fucking excited. So I'm really excited to see 2201 01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:03,240 where it goes. I've heard great things. 2202 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:07,320 I hope my feeling is this is going to be like a Shepherd King 2203 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,880 duology situation where the second book is just like miles 2204 01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,200 and miles ahead of the first. Even though the first book is 2205 01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,400 good, the second book is just like really, really miles ahead. 2206 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:18,800 So I'm very excited. Hopefully I'll be able to tell 2207 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,520 you how it ends next time we record. 2208 01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,960 Or I won't tell you how it ends and obviously, but I'll tell you 2209 01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,640 how I feel about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2210 01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,440 But nice. How about you? 2211 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:32,160 I mean I literally just finished House of Claim and Shadow 2212 01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:33,640 yesterday. Yeah. 2213 01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:37,080 Right. And like part of the issue too 2214 01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,440 is like, as we kind of guys, we're doing a better job of 2215 01:43:40,440 --> 01:43:44,600 outlining our season, which is good news for both you and us. 2216 01:43:45,440 --> 01:43:47,960 But it also meant that I read much more slowly. 2217 01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,640 So I think I'm going to pick up. I think I'm going to pick up 2218 01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,440 spark of the Ever flame. I think that's going to be my 2219 01:43:52,440 --> 01:43:55,960 next one. I'm kind of hesitating because 2220 01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:58,600 I'm like, I don't know if I want to jump into like that big issue 2221 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,280 immediately. You should take a break. 2222 01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,520 You should read something not as. 2223 01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:07,400 But I don't I just thought as fulfilled by like single tins 2224 01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:11,920 and I read like I read lady of Darkness, which was really fun. 2225 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,800 I thought about reading the I think it's the legacy series by 2226 01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:19,120 the same author, Melissa Rorich, I think is her name, which I've 2227 01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:20,480 heard really, really good things about. 2228 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:25,440 But that's another like many book series and I'm like, God, 2229 01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:31,000 can I like I know just one small, small. 2230 01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:34,480 Like through three books. Have you read The Night in the 2231 01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:35,640 Mom? No, I've not read the Night in 2232 01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:37,800 Mafia. I mean, it's not, it's a duology 2233 01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,040 and the second one's not out yet, but it's just kind of like 2234 01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,560 a fun little little romp. If you're looking for something 2235 01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,160 easy. Also, may I recommend Tomorrow 2236 01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:46,880 and Tomorrow and Tomorrow? That's a single book. 2237 01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:48,440 There's no. There's no more than that. 2238 01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,840 But I need a fantasy, I'm sorry. Yeah. 2239 01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,320 No, that's fair. I'll add it to the TBR though. 2240 01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,400 I mean I could read the Year of the Locust which has been on my 2241 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,320 TBR for a long time. Is that the follow up to the 2242 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,920 Pilgrim One? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 2243 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,920 yeah. It's been a while since you read 2244 01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,640 I Am Pilgrim. Yeah, yeah, but it's not, it's 2245 01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,440 not like an issue to not have as much. 2246 01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:11,560 Yeah. First of all, I'm never going to 2247 01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:13,120 forget the plot. That book, it's literally burned 2248 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:14,440 into my brain. But second of all, it wouldn't 2249 01:45:14,440 --> 01:45:17,200 be a problem if I didn't remember everything from the 2250 01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,440 first. I guess you'll find out next 2251 01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:23,360 time whether I decided to embark on another Behemoth series off 2252 01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,240 the back of. It's just so bad. 2253 01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,640 I'm kidding. It's just so big. 2254 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,520 Yeah, but it's fun. It's a good one. 2255 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:33,800 I love. I love the man in Spark of the 2256 01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,440 Everflight. I love him, he's so great. 2257 01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:37,920 It helps. It helps. 2258 01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:41,400 Yeah, it's he's up there for me for sure. 2259 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:43,000 Yeah. All right. 2260 01:45:43,480 --> 01:45:45,840 Well, I'm pretty sure people just showed up for. 2261 01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,000 Oh, did I tell you we rebranded to Slice Sunday Slice? 2262 01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:50,320 Sunday slice. Nice. 2263 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,600 Yeah, You went away from solid Sundays, just Sunday. 2264 01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:55,400 Solids. No. 2265 01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:56,680 Yeah. Sunday slice. 2266 01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,480 But then I think summer is going to be salads and I figured out 2267 01:45:59,480 --> 01:46:03,080 who does the finely chopped salads that you scoop up. 2268 01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:05,400 It is actually baked by Melissa. Fun fact. 2269 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,240 Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. 2270 01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,680 So all right, well, that's all we've got for you today. 2271 01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:15,920 So thank you for listening. We are on all the social medias, 2272 01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,480 Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, everything your heart 2273 01:46:19,480 --> 01:46:22,600 could ever imagine. So feel free to follow us on any 2274 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,720 of those. And if you are fed our content 2275 01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,320 organically and you like it, if you could follow, that would 2276 01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:30,280 mean a lot to us. And if you have any questions, 2277 01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:33,920 comments, feedback, theories, we love hearing from you. 2278 01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:37,360 Please do comment on our episodes. 2279 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,280 Reach out to us via the contact form on our website, 2280 01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,840 dragonsinthedetails.com. 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