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Hi everyone, and welcome back to
the Strike and Ellicott Files, 

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an unofficial podcast dedicated 
to all things Strike and Robin 

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as written by Robert Galbraith, 
AKA the endlessly talented JK 

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Rowling. 
My name is Kenz. 

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I'm Lindsay. 
And I'm. 

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Pulse. 
And today we'll be continuing 

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our reread of The Hallmarked 
Man, covering chapters 10 

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through 13, which takes us from 
Strike's birthday to Strike and 

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Robin agreeing to take the case.
Please be aware, as always, that

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our discussion of The Hallmarked
Man will often reference the 

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ending of this book as well as 
the previous books in the 

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series. 
But before we get into this 

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chapter, there was somebody who 
reached out wanting to know if 

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we were going to cover the 
questions and stuff that Joe did

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for this book. 
And we are. 

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And this one is going to be 
about parenting and parenthood. 

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So we can put the audio in. 
Is that how we're going to do it

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again? 
OK, so let's have a listen. 

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There is a strong theme of 
parenting through through the 

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novel, and there is an emphasis 
on fatherhood, although Robin 

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does get to consider motherhood 
in a way she's never done 

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before. 
But what it what it is to be a 

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good father, I think really does
speak to this idea that the 

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novel explores to an extent what
it is to be a good man. 

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And even Strike does a bit of 
parenting, although not of a 

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human. 
But we'll we'll leave that to to

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the reader to discover. 
Strike loses his real role model

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in this book. 
And I think that's very 

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significant in in any human 
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Losing someone who was a who was
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life experience that I think 
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will have the losing is always 
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But to have someone in your life
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would model yourself on, 
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Not everyone has it. 
All right, this is a good one. 

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Fatherhood is really woven into 
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it's not just in how it reflects
being a good man like Joe says 

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it does. 
But I'm also realizing there's 

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some parallels between Strike 
and Murphy that are in this book

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about fatherhood because you 
have one man who really wants 

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it. 
So much so that we all believe 

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he did something shady to try 
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And he, Murphy, Robin lost this 
baby, but he suffered this loss 

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too, because it was his 
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And I'm sure that he's thought 
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And then you counter that with 
Strike, who has also suffered a 

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loss. 
He just lost his father figure. 

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He doesn't want to be a father, 
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in the worst way imaginable is 
just looming over him throughout

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so much of this book. 
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over, who is the person who 
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go away completely? 
It's that estranged father who 

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he's finally giving a chance and
who actually surprises all of us

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by being kind of a good man. 
I was just thinking that strike 

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with Bijou, he was facing the 
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He was facing the threat of 
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rather than turning into the man
he wanted to model himself 

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after. 
The horrific irony of, oh, I'm 

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the man I've always hated. 
I'm in that position now instead

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of I'm not Ted, who I've wanted 
to be like my whole life. 

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I just thought there was some 
interesting things there with 

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Murphy and Strike that I hadn't 
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Yeah. 
And then you also have things 

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like Griffs, who's pretending to
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actually a monster. 
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Tyler Powell, who people are 
portraying as a monster, but he 

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is willing to be a father to 
this child that isn't his in 

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order to save Chloe because he 
loves her and he is actually the

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good man when, you know, 
compared with Griffs, obviously.

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And then you have people like 
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because he thought it was the 
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he didn't really know he was 
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And I've always kind of thought 
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honest, because at the end where
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baby. 
The assumption there was strange

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to me. 
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that she wasn't going to keep 
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leaving. 
I guess that makes sense. 

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Lots and lots of fatherhood 
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Nile Semple also left his 
pregnant wife, although she lost

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the baby, but he did it because 
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Yeah, yeah. 
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Well, there's. 
Robin's father, although we 

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don't really get much. 
From Well, he's got a new 

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little. 
He's got a new puppy. 

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Maybe with the fish, but. 
Anyway, she says, yeah, does 

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some parenting, although that's 
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himself as a fish. 
He is parenting this little 

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fish. 
Even when he doesn't want to, 

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it's. 
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He's not going to let that 
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And then we get the mention of 
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Ted. 
Breaking that cycle of Ted, 

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breaking the cycle, Yeah. 
Anyway, these ones are going to 

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be interesting because there is 
a couple of times where Joe has 

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said something that I'm like, I 
don't know what I think about 

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that. 
So there'll be lots to discuss. 

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Is the author wrong or am I 
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No. 
I don't think it's that type of 

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situation. 
I was trying to do the. 

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Simpsons. 
I was trying to do The Simpsons 

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meme but I forgot the wording of
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wouldn't know it anyways. 
That's true. 

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So why was I even bothering? 
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No, I mean, this is all part of 
my thought process because there

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are things that she says that I 
don't understand, Although also 

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things that I think I just see 
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And then I had whole 
conversations with myself about,

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can I see some bits of the 
characters differently than the 

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author? 
Like, is that OK? 

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What does that mean? 
And it's like I've come to the 

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conclusion where, yeah, I think 
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it is just personality traits. 
Like a couple times ago when she

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says she said something like 
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He doesn't annoy me because I 
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lot. 
So I think some of it, it just 

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comes down to personality. 
It's not being like you did this

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wrong, you know, that's a 
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So yeah, I think there's there's
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differently. 
So I think that these will be 

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interesting to explore. 
I think so. 

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OK, should we jump into the 
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In this chapter, it strikes 
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And it isn't for life today, 
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Happy birthday, strike. 
Happy birthday. 

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Do you need anyone to jump out 
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Yeah, I put Robin in it. 
We've recorded 2 episodes on the

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same day, which is why you'll 
have the happy birthday strike 

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last episode and then this 
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We just really want to celebrate
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Know it's still his birthday. 
Happy birthday Strike. 

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All right, the epigraph for this
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A brotherly affection and 
kindness should govern us in all

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our intercourse and relations 
with our brethren. 

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Are you laughing because she 
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I knew it. 
That is what's happening, isn't 

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it? 
Jesus wept fools. 

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Sorry. 
And that is from Morals and 

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Dogma of the Ancient and 
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Freemasonry by Albert Pike. 
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because there is affection and 
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most parts. 
The line says it should govern 

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us, but we see in this chapter 
that there is someone who is not

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treating the others with either 
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a proper team should be. 
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Looking at you, Midge. 
I'm just kidding. 

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I'm kidding. 
It's Kim. 

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I'm just kidding. 
The outrage I was about to. 

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Feel kidding? 
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It's. 
Kim, Of course it's Kim. 

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We get the start of a team 
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meetings. 
Me too. 

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I think it's honestly been one 
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these later books because it's 
nice and it's just so fun to see

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the dynamic between all of them.
Isn't it so weird thinking about

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the earlier books where it was 
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It was just the two of them. 
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Yeah, it's Strike's birthday. 
I love Pat in this whole 

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birthday moment, you know that 
she's the one who got and 

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wrapped the present. 
You know she's the one who made 

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the cake in her Princess Diana 
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Oh, she definitely did. 
Probably fully knowing that 

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Strike would be a bit opposed to
the whole ordeal, but she's 

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doing it anyway. 
I think that knowing Strike 

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would be grumpy about it would 
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to Pat's enjoyments of the whole
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nice thing because she cares for
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gets to watch him squirm at 
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It's like a cherry on top for 
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I think you just wanted to say 
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Do you like saying peek and see?
It is a fun word for us. 

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Watch him do something for Pat's
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I'm calling it now. 
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My God I would love this so 
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Do you know what I realized that
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next book? 
There are a ton of terrorist 

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attacks in London and then 
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summer too. 
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It's going to be pretty fucking 
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I'm banking on Grenfell coming 
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fire that they've had in UK 
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Any recent memory? 
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There's another attack on the 
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There was an attack in Borough 
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Going to be a stressful summer. 
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summer, I wonder if. 
Has to We ended in April and 

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we're getting Pat's birthday. 
What do you mean we're getting 

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Pat's birthday? 
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Yeah, she mentioned it on. 
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It was May 8th. 
She said it on Twitter that we'd

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find out. 
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Assume. 
Why do I not remember this? 

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I don't know. 
That's crazy. 

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Well, we weren't supposed to 
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until Book 9, but she said it on
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Oh, OK, that does sound 
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OK. 
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May then. 
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in April, but I think it'll go 
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May, yeah, sure. 
It'll at least go through May. 

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Yeah, OK. 
Yeah, on the 22nd of May was the

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Manchester bombing of the Ariana
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The London Ridge terror attack 
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terrorists drove a van into 
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stabbing people in Borough 
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Eight people were killed. 
And then 14th June is the 

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Grenfell Tower fire. 
It's a rough summer. 

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And the Grenfell stuff went on 
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months afterwards while they 
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why it happened. 
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they built it with insulation 
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flammable. 
I was watching a documentary on 

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it. 
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order that they had for like how
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emergencies like this and it 
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stay where you are, Don't try 
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are. 72 people died. 
Well, who was it who was saying,

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remember the theory that we were
given about what the case could 

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be about and connecting to 
strike watching the videos if 

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all of that's going on during 
the timeline? 

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I could see it anyway. 
Sorry, that was a bit of a 

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depression. 
Yeah, anyway, back to the 

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Dianetin that says definitely, 
definitely didn't belong to the 

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office. 
That made me laugh because I'm 

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just imagining Strike being like
oh, I gotta have this. 

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Right it it'd be right up there 
with like, Lula's sparkly pink 

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laptop and Cuckoo's Calling. 
Strike not wanting to remind 

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Robin that he's 42, made me 
laugh at it here because trust 

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me bud, she does not mind at all
because with 42 comes the smile 

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lines around the eyes and like 
the Gray hairs at the temples 

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and I forgot what I was saying 
I. 

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Think he got lost? 
Where are we? 

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Robin walks into the office all 
happy and cheerful, wishing 

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Strike a happy birthday. 
And he tells her that she looks 

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remarkably good. 
OK, so he couches it with for 

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someone who's just got off their
sick bed, sure, we all know. 

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We all know he actually just 
means flat out remarkably good. 

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You know how that one time 
people laughed at us because we 

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were all giddy about their knees
touching? 

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I think it was in trouble. 
Plus, yeah. 

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Remember that? 
Yeah, that's legit though. 

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This line reminds me of that 
because the way I feel actually 

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breathless while reading it and 
it says she headed a little 

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awkwardly towards Strike to give
him a hug and a kiss on the 

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cheek, which he accepted gladly.
That was the best. 

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So cute president he got. 
He loved us so much more than 

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the whiskey and vape juice. 
He's like I got a hug and a kiss

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from Robin. 
I. 

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Know it's just the amount of 
swooning that's happening inside

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my soul with this line, yeah. 
You know, see, it doesn't take 

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much to please us. 
It really doesn't. 

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It's just like a sentence. 
A sentence, Yeah. 

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Yeah, and also, which he 
accepted gladly. 

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He's precious. 
I love him so much. 

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This is why I just, I swear that
their love story is my favorite 

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of all time 'cause it's not what
can be the spiciest as they say,

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or whatever. 
It's these little interactions 

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that give you, you know, us, the
reader, second hand butterflies.

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It's so good so. 
Good. 

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Also, this is one of the two 
sweet interactions between them 

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in this chapter that Pat could 
be noticing. 

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You know, she could be noticing 
Robin's little awkward noticing 

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that Strike is gladly accepting 
it. 

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I feel like she's got to be 
picking up on at least a little 

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bit. 
There's also the little moment 

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later on where they're smiling 
and laughing at each other at 

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the end. 
Because she could be picking it 

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up. 
I. 

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Love fat? 
That is, of course, if we're 

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arguing that Pat wasn't 
surprised by what she overhears 

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at the end. 
So that's such an interesting 

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question to me because how 
surprised is she? 

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I know. 
I mean, the actual proposal is 

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going to be surprising no matter
what. 

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Yeah, to everyone. 
But strikes feelings like has 

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she noticed? 
Them before that's my question 

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because she was cool and 
collected but that doesn't mean 

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anything with pat. 
I think she's pretty cool and 

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collected, you know, I. 
Think that maybe she's been kind

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of wondering because if 
everybody can see it, I mean, 

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maybe she's not ruminating on it
and being like, huh, I wonder if

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they're together. 
But she's probably in the back 

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of her mind. 
There's something going on. 

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It's definitely possible that 
she's seeing moments like these 

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and suspecting, because I do 
think that we see Pat noticing 

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things about them, you know, 
like a mother would. 

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We can't know for sure, but you 
know, she notices. 

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Robin's not happy at home. 
I think she she picks up on 

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little things about them. 
So I wouldn't be surprised if 

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she was not surprised. 
She just doesn't know Zen about 

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it to them, because she's a 
kindred spirit. 

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Although we're going to need her
to do that a little bit more 

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now, but I think now Strike is 
going to talk to her about it 

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more. 
Hopefully that would be. 

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So fucking cute. 
Yeah, comes like his confidant. 

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And another thing that Pat could
have noticed, because I 

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definitely noticed it, was that 
Robin was not happy to just be 

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part of that group gift, right? 
She bought him another present, 

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which indicates a closer 
personal relationship than just 

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group office gift, and I love 
that she made Murphy go by it. 

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I bet he hated that so much, 
which I really love. 

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For us, yes. 
Yeah, he's gotta at least be 

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somewhat better about that. 
Is it just me or is it honestly 

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a little crazy? 
OK, thanks. 

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Just kidding. 
That that Robin asked her 

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alcoholic boyfriend to just go 
buy her a really nice whiskey. 

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Like, I know he said he's fine 
with being around people 

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drinking and he's already 
drinking again anyways, so. 

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But I feel like actually going 
to the liquor store, picking up 

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the bottle and going through the
cash is a bit much. 

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Like it's got to be a bit 
triggering. 

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That's a good question. 
You would think. 

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It might depend on the person. 
It might depend on how long 

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they've been in recovery. 
Yeah, it does kind of seem like 

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sending a kid in a candy store 
and being like, don't get 

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anything. 
Genuinely. 

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Yeah. 
I don't know. 

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But I was just strongly reminded
of the flowers that Strike got 

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Robin in the beginning of 
Troubled Blood. 

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Such a huge parallel here and 
now later, another parallel when

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it comes to Christmas, because 
he buys her really thoughtful, 

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sweet love and gift and she buys
some something edible. 

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Yeah, the Cornish shrewd, more 
thoughtful than the salted 

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caramel chocolates. 
But in strikes defense, he was 

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sick with the flu, so it 
balances. 

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That's true. 
I did like her gift though. 

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It's a monthly subscription it. 
Was sweet. 

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It gets. 
Monthly food delivered, Those 

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are really expensive, yeah. 
And he liked it, but it is just 

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another. 
No, I yeah, I totally see it. 

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And the reason for the generic 
gifts are different between 

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Strikes flowers and Robin's 
whiskey, but they each got each 

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another a gift that was 
something that they don't really

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want and that reminds them of a 
bad relationship. 

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Yeah, I highly doubt that 
Strike's going to be yelling at 

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her to not buy him anymore 
whiskey. 

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But I do wonder if, you know, 
she's going to learn that this 

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reminds him of Charlotte and at 
some point, never buy it for him

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again. 
Right. 

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I mean once you get it in the 
glass though, doesn't it all 

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taste the same? 
AKA horrible. 

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AKA apparently not. 
It all tastes really horrible 

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anyway now that I've triggered 
everyone. 

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Yeah, I love Strike casually 
dropping the name 2 times to 

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Robin because I think that 
Robbins reaction was the same 

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that I had, right? 
Just what? 

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Exactly. 
It's one of those things that's 

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such a blast from the past you 
just have to laugh. 

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You're. 
Like what? 

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But it's great because this is 
the book where people come back.

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It only makes sense to see this 
guy again. 

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And I just love the way the 
whole conversation flows about 

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two times between Berkeley, 
Strike and Robin, where it seems

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like, you know, they're 
reminiscent on old jokes and 

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things about this crazy old kind
of theirs. 

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It feels cozy in a weird way. 
Who knew that cuckolding could 

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be cozy? 
Yeah. 

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Weird way. 
Yeah, super cozy. 

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And you have Kim trying to be 
part of the conversations, which

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is less cozy. 
Get out, Kim, it's not about 

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you. 
The little jab about marriage 

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and when she says I didn't marry
one of my mistakes to Robin, I 

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mean, she says it's everybody, 
but I think it was for Robin. 

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Maybe your mistake didn't want 
to marry you. 

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I don't have proof of this, but 
I'm sure Kim knows that Robin 

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was divorced. 
I don't think she heard it from 

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Strike, Pat, Barkley, or Dev. 
I'm just saying there's one 

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detective who likes to gossip a 
bit. 

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I wouldn't. 
Be surprised. 

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So you think that Midge told her
it's possible? 

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I you know I haven't considered 
that since Mitch talks about not

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liking her later. 
But maybe Midge let it slip 

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earlier, before she realized 
that Kim was the literal 

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Antichrist. 
Yeah, or Kim could have just 

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googled Robin True. 
UHC gave her a Wikipedia page 

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that mentioned her divorce. 
I feel like the information's 

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out there for a detective to 
find and if I were Kim, which 

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thankfully I am not, I would be 
Googling, you know, the 

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competition. 
I suppose that's possible. 

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And it is clear that Kim does 
see Robinas competition, how 

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hard she tries to undermine her.
Yeah, yeah, right. 

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But Speaking of the devil. 
Well. 

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Not literally, not literally, 
just joke. 

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Midge Facetime's in. 
I know that she is completely 

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clueless about striking Robin. 
I know that she's trying to 

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tease strike. 
But when she said what are you 

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45? 
I was like, no poor strike. 

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I thought he was. 45. 
No, she doesn't. 

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She's trying to mess with him. 
Didn't he say he looked like 10 

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years older in the first book? 
Well, maybe he doesn't anymore. 

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He's lost the weight. 
Yes, he has. 

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He's less tired Vegetables. 
He's less tired, you know, And 

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yeah, obviously Robin doesn't 
care, but strike a 

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self-conscious about this 
because he thinks she does care.

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And I think that's super cute. 
He just doesn't even know. 

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He doesn't even know. 
He doesn't. 

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Even know he doesn't even know. 
I can't wait till he knows. 

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Let's talk about how much we 
hate Kim some more because the 

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way she cuts Midge off to say I 
already told Cormoran that the 

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only time anyone should be 
cutting Midge off is if she 

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starts gossiping again, but this
was just rude. 

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But it's also embarrassing. 
I was kind of dying of cringe. 

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Like it's such a bad look on 
her. 

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I know. 
And then Kim is the one raising 

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her eyebrows at Midge, like 
Midge is the one being 

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inappropriate. 
It's. 

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So strange flames on the side of
my face. 

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And we've got Robin feeling 
resentful about that. 

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Quite a Rep at work comment 
Murphy dropped. 

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I still don't think it was 
positive. 

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No, of course. 
And I guarantee every single 

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woman she's worked with hates 
her if this. 

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Yeah, and that's part of her 
RIP. 

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Yeah. 
And she can't get all of the men

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on her side by sleeping with 
them, right? 

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Technically, maybe she could, 
but it it'd be messy. 

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Figuratively. 
Yeah, literally. 

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OK, well that's OK. 
Let's talk about There's some 

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foreshadowing here that I see 
with the Mr. A talk. 

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So Barkley suggests that if Mr. 
A doesn't want bad things posted

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about him in the papers, he 
shouldn't do the bad things. 

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What? 
See where this is going? 

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Very clever. 
Yeah, but also Dev says the 

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things being posted about him 
are from past bad behaviors, 

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which is even more relevant to 
Strike because this is all his 

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behavior in the past, right? 
And I'm also going to go out on 

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a limb and guess whatever Mr. A 
did is way worse and actually 

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true than what Strike did. 
Yeah. 

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Most definitely. 
So we've finished talking about 

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hating Kim. 
For now, let's move on to our 

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other target, which is R FM. 
I can't decide who I hate more 

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because Kim. 
It's more irritating. 

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OK, Kim is way more irritating, 
but Murphy's the one who's more 

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effective at blocking Strike and
Robin from kissing, so it's a 

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tough call. 
I mean, I think the person who's

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most effective with that is JK 
Rowling. 

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Yes, she is. 
But I love her, right? 

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So I gotta hate the characters. 
I mean, I OK if I'm voting, I'm 

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voting Kim because I think that 
Murphy has some understandable 

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and redeeming qualities and Kim 
just does not. 

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Yeah, whereas Kim just makes me 
want to. 

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RIP my own arm off so I have 
something to hit her with. 

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Yeah, I think I'd have to agree.
Murphy is texting Robin that he 

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has the information she asked 
for. 

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I feel the same reluctance from 
him here that I did from Oliver 

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and Lethal White. 
And it also took a really long 

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time for him to respond to her 
about whether or not Strike 

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could hear this information. 
And I kind of thought that was 

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weird for Robin to ask, because 
I cannot see any possibility 

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where Robin can know information
and not share it with Strike. 

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Maybe he was just hoping he 
could just tell Robin and then 

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she passed it on to strike 
rather than him actually having 

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to talk to strike. 
But actually I think he's just 

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somehow idiotically helping. 
It would just stay between him 

456
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,600
and Robin, which does make 
sense. 

457
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,880
I think it was, yeah, I think 
it's that and then the all caps,

458
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,600
nobody else so. 
Fucking dramatic. 

459
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,200
If he's that afraid of being 
associated with the Strike and 

460
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,280
Ellicott Detective Agency, don't
date Robin. 

461
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,800
I love this chapter. 
Everything about the ending bit 

462
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,160
is so cute. 
Strike and Robin are just 

463
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,920
adorable in it. 
It reminds me of the beginning 

464
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,520
of Ink Black Heart when they 
when they're celebrating Robin's

465
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,400
birthday. 
They look at each other from 

466
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,360
across the room and she smiles 
at him. 

467
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:18,760
This is giving that. 
Strike did his best to look 

468
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,080
appreciative while happy 
birthday was being sung. 

469
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,480
Noticing the forced nature of 
Strike's smile, Robin started to

470
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,320
laugh before the song was 
finished, noting with gratitude 

471
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,680
that laughter no longer caused 
her much pain. 

472
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,680
Strike, unwillingly amused by 
Robin's amusement, found himself

473
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,720
genuinely grinning by the time 
Pat instructed him to blow out 

474
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,280
his candles. 
So cute. 

475
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,000
Imagine being in the room and 
watching these two. 

476
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,480
It's so cute. 
Wow. 

477
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,960
I also noticed. 
Maybe it's a coincidence but I 

478
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,120
don't know. 
There are a couple of times 

479
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:52,320
where it feels like there are 
some opposites happening between

480
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320
Strike and Murphy. 
I thought I found another one, 

481
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,360
but here's a good example. 
In the last chapter, Robin 

482
00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:01,240
laughs along with Murphy after 
she tells him that he sounds 

483
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,000
like he's trying to lure her 
into a van right? 

484
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,720
And the laugh hurts her. 
Here she's laughing with Strike 

485
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,600
and she's thankful that the 
laughing no longer hurts her. 

486
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,560
I think the symbolism of Murphy 
being a thorn in her side fits 

487
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,960
with this. 
There might be some laughter 

488
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,920
with Murphy, but it's also 
causing pain, where with Strike 

489
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,960
it's just happiness. 
Yes, yeah, 1000 times. 

490
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,080
Yes. 
So cute. 

491
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,720
And then of course, we have to 
love Kim getting annoyed that 

492
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,360
Robin gets to have a private 
conversation with Strike in the 

493
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:32,720
interoffice. 
And yeah. 

494
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,160
Die mad about it, Kim. 
Like partners do at their 

495
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,120
partner's desk. 
Yep, all right, chapter. 11 All 

496
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,160
right, in this chapter, Strike 
and Robin discussed the case and

497
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,480
Freemasonry. 
The epigraph if 2 lives join 

498
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,760
there is off to Scar. 
They are one and one with a 

499
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,360
shadowy 3rd and that's by the 
fireside by Robert Browning. 

500
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,440
I love this one because it's 
talking about Strike and Robin 

501
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,120
joining their two lives. 
I think what this is saying in 

502
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:03,920
the poem is that when 2 lives 
merge, there can be scars or 

503
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,320
pain from that union, or I guess
in Strike and Robin's case, the 

504
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,200
journey there. 
So when you have a couple, you 

505
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,880
have one and one each 
individual, and then you have 

506
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,760
them as a couple this other 
third. 

507
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,640
But applying it directly to this
chapter, it's a cute chapter 

508
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,160
with the two of them. 
It could be reflecting that if 

509
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,000
we fudge the actual meaning of 
it, you could say it's about the

510
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,000
awkwardness of the upcoming 
meeting with Robin Murphy and 

511
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,480
Strike. 
So Strike and Robin have clearly

512
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,600
joined their lives, lives. 
They're the one and one. 

513
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,120
And now Murphy is going to be 
this third wheel, the shadow 

514
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,960
ruining it. 
Fucking. 

515
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,240
Guy. 
Yeah, yeah. 

516
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,880
I think exactly this poem is 
really lovely and it's very 

517
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,720
appropriate for Strike and 
Robin. 

518
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,200
So the speaker's an old man 
reading by the fireside, looking

519
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,920
at his wife, who he says his 
perfect wife. 

520
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,320
His heart, He muses on the past,
eventually lands on this moment 

521
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,040
they had together in the woods 
when they were young, exploring 

522
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,360
an old Chapel, the moment when 
their friendship changed and he 

523
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,360
said he loved her. 
And then their souls mingled as 

524
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:08,440
one. 
And I just I had to put some 

525
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,480
quotes because they were so 
Stella caught. 

526
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,200
So I'm going to read some bits 
that were really good. 

527
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,360
I could fix her face with a 
guard between and find her soul.

528
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:22,240
As when friends confer friends, 
lovers that might have been. 

529
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,320
You know that that's. 
Talk to her as a friend, right? 

530
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,960
But that's in this book. 
That's one of the epigraphs. 

531
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,840
Oh really? 
What chapter? 

532
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,400
It is 100. 
It's 107. 

533
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:38,520
Oh fantastic, and then we go for
a chance to make your little 

534
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,880
much, to gain a lover and lose a
friend. 

535
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,520
Venture the tree and the myriad 
such. 

536
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,840
Take the risk. 
How worth that a man should 

537
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,080
strive and agonize and taste of 
various hell on earth for the 

538
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,960
hope of such a prize. 
The prize of her life. 

539
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,400
Strike the prize of his life, 
and he says you might have 

540
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,640
turned and tried a man, set him 
his face to weary and wear and 

541
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,800
prove which suited more, your 
plan, his best of hope or his 

542
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,040
worst despair. 
But you spared me this like the 

543
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,800
heart you are, and filled my 
empty heart at a word. 

544
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,280
Then he says if 2 lines join 
blah blah blah. 

545
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,960
And then we knew that a bar was 
broken between life and life. 

546
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,920
We were mixed at last, in spite 
of the mortal screen. 

547
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,480
The forest had done it. 
They had mingled us. 

548
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,760
So for once a good. 
And this is the bit. 

549
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,040
This is the bit I really love. 
I am named and known by that 

550
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,240
moment's feet. 
There took my station and 

551
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,080
degree. 
So grew my own small life 

552
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:45,600
complete as nature obtained her 
best of me, one born to love you

553
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,680
sweet that loving him to find 
her that feat that moment of 

554
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,720
telling her he loved her. 
That was what made him a man and

555
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,480
who he is. 
And I'm like strike strike. 

556
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,680
Anyway, I know that's all super 
relevant to the actual chapter 

557
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,880
because what you said, Lindsay, 
about the third, the 

558
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,080
relationship, the Murphy, the 
third wheel, the scar preventing

559
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,600
them from the perfect union, all
that. 

560
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,400
But it really is just a 
beautiful poem to see this book 

561
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,600
through because Strike is lying 
to find that perfect moment to 

562
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,120
risk everything because he wants
that future with Robin. 

563
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,120
He wants that old man looking 
back on the moment his wife, you

564
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:27,280
know, became his. 
And he spends a whole book 

565
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,240
trying to create that moment. 
But the feet doesn't come till 

566
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,440
the very end in the most 
opportune way. 

567
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,280
And then we're left hanging. 
We don't get to see their souls 

568
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,680
mingle. 
He's still waiting on that word 

569
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,360
from Robin that will fill his 
heart. 

570
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,360
I feel so hopeful that words 
going to come in book 9. 

571
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,120
I know, so fucking emotional 
about it. 

572
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,640
Anyway, really great poem. 
Really good one. 

573
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,200
I was heartbroken to discover at
the beginning of this chapter 

574
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,960
that Midge and Tasha weren't 
doing well because I was so 

575
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,480
invested in their romance. 
You are going to be shocked, but

576
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,800
I was not. 
Yeah, me neither. 

577
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,680
I am sorry for your loss though.
We will be thinking about you 

578
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,160
and during this trying time. 
Yeah, the loss of the loss of 

579
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,440
Midge and and Roundtree. 
It's a lot like I lost my 

580
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,160
fictional dog and I lose my 
fictional bodyguard. 

581
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,040
Slow burn romance. 
Come on. 

582
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,000
It wasn't. 
That much of A slow burn. 

583
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,840
Bodyguard super fast burn 
romance? 

584
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,000
Come on. 
I never got the impression these

585
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,440
two are going to go the 
distance. 

586
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,240
But also if Tasha is actually 
cheating on Midge with a Co star

587
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,880
then it's not worth being upset 
over I guess. 

588
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,480
True but Midge could be the 
crazy jealous type and Tasha's 

589
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,760
innocent. 
We don't know. 

590
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320
Also could be true. 
It does kind of reflect the 

591
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,040
whole people who work together 
developing feelings, jealous 

592
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,080
current partner thing. 
Yeah. 

593
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Yeah. 
But I'm also kind of wondering 

594
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,480
if Midge, in addition to being a
gossip, is a bit of an overshare

595
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,640
because it says that Robin gets 
the whole story when she took 

596
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,760
over from from Midge for 
surveillance. 

597
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,720
And it just kind of made me 
laugh because I'm imagining like

598
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,760
a, hey, how are you? 
And then just getting way more 

599
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,840
than she bargained for. 
On another note, I'm thrilled 

600
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,640
that Robin points out to Strike 
that Kim was rude as hell to 

601
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,320
Midge, and I'm glad that Strike 
appears to have noticed because 

602
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,360
he says it wasn't just that. 
I'm hoping for a time where if 

603
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,160
there is a subcontractor that 
Robin doesn't like that she 

604
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,640
actually just says it because 
the last time this happened with

605
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,120
Morris or whatever, she also 
didn't want to bring it to 

606
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,760
strike and just say just. 
Just say like, this guy's not 

607
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,800
working out, which frankly, 
Strike should have said about 

608
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,400
Kim being like, I'm really 
uncomfortable with the amount 

609
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,000
that she's coming on to me. 
Right. 

610
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,600
I'm being sexually harassed in 
my workplace. 

611
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,320
We're kicking her to the curb. 
I think that both of them end up

612
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,160
thinking about all the work that
they have and they don't want to

613
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,280
yeah, make the other one have 
more work by bringing up we need

614
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,000
to get rid of this person, but 
maybe, maybe do it anyway. 

615
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,120
Maybe say, hey, when we get the 
opportunity, let's drop this 

616
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,680
person because it's. 
Yeah. 

617
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,320
Murphy is again being so 
dramatic over the Super 

618
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,120
sensitive information, so much 
so that Strike now has to trade 

619
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,040
watching football with beer for 
watching Murphy act all 

620
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,680
boyfriend over Robin because of 
it on his birthday. 

621
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,080
On his birthday, it's so. 
Sad. 

622
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,680
I was going to laugh at Murphy 
for not wanting to text it, for 

623
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,200
being dramatic, but then I 
realized, OK, technically the 

624
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,280
police could get text records 
and see that he shared it. 

625
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,120
So. 
Yeah. 

626
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,360
I guess if it's sensitive, you 
know. 

627
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,240
Yeah, 'cause it's about adaptive
undercover informants, Yeah, 

628
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,480
who's in a great deal of danger.
So yes, OK, it is very sensitive

629
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,200
information. 
Mm hmm. 

630
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,040
It is. 
But don't be so precious about 

631
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,320
it, man. 
As well. 

632
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,400
I mean, I got it. 
I I got it, yeah. 

633
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,040
But he also acts like they don't
know what, like whatever. 

634
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,840
Like it's something sensitive. 
It's like, come on, dude, we do 

635
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960
this all the time. 
We hold ourselves to that level 

636
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,560
of standard, and we don't even 
have to. 

637
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,880
They hold themselves to a higher
standard than you Murphy, just 

638
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,520
FYI. 
I think it's just they don't say

639
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,640
their information, but when they
solve cases, then sometimes it 

640
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040
comes up that people have helped
them, right? 

641
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Yeah. 
He doesn't want to be that 

642
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,720
person. 
So Strike shares some Fleetwood 

643
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,800
updates with Robin. 
One of the things Strike has is 

644
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,880
a picture of Rupert. 
Guess what's pointed out again? 

645
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,920
It's that round face, that baby 
bell cheese face, the Pilkington

646
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,080
face. 
Poor guy. 

647
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,280
I also love the line about 
Shanker that Robin had a 

648
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,120
fondness for him Strike felt was
at least partially ill advised. 

649
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,640
And then of course she does. 
He helped her do something 

650
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,480
dangerous and reckless. 
Of course she's going to have a 

651
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,360
fondness is for Shanker, which 
is exactly what concerns strike 

652
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,240
exactly there. 
There are some. 

653
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,680
Things you can't go through 
together without becoming 

654
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,880
friends, and working together to
confront a pedophile is one of 

655
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,960
them. 
Yeah, I think a mountain troll 

656
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,760
is a pretty good comparison to 
Brock Bing. 

657
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,440
So yeah, pretty. 
That's pretty. 

658
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Good Strike quotes some 
Freemason silliness and Robin 

659
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,520
just stares at him and her. 
You're never a Freemason is 

660
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,640
quite funny to me. 
I love that. 

661
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,960
This is. 
So funny. 

662
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,560
He's not a Freemason and she 
knows perfectly well he's not. 

663
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,880
He would never be able to keep a
straight face during that 

664
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,800
ritual. 
No video, my God. 

665
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,920
I know, and Robin, I might not 
have known it so. 

666
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,720
Yeah, that is funny. 
I'm just imagining him in that 

667
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,840
room with that video we saw. 
Yeah, it'd be like when he went 

668
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,160
to that UHC meeting at Olympia, 
just like. 

669
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,360
Arms folded, admitting nothing. 
God I love that part. 

670
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,960
I thought it was hilarious too. 
I like when Robin says these 

671
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,080
little phrases that are slightly
obscure to me. 

672
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,800
You know, because they're not 
common over here. 

673
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,080
Like you're never a is 1 or God 
above. 

674
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,400
That one was new to me too. 
I really liked that when she 

675
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,760
first said it in Troubled Blood.
Also the silliness as you say is

676
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,920
actually more talk of Hiram 
Abiff and Strike is using the 

677
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,480
quote where they talk about 
keeping each other secrets 

678
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,600
except for murder and treason. 
I. 

679
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,120
Feel like there are a lot of 
other awful things that should 

680
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,600
maybe be included on that list. 
I agree, yeah. 

681
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,239
Are they keeping each other's 
rapes a secret? 

682
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Fraud. 
Theft. 

683
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Performing illegal charms on 
goats. 

684
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Is Aberforth the Mason you 
think? 

685
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,840
100% okay. 
Do the Wizards have their own 

686
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,639
version of the Masons or is that
just being a wizard? 

687
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,600
It literally is kind of wizard 
wizard, except they don't have 

688
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040
to do like oaths or ritual 
things. 

689
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,600
Yeah. 
So there's definitely like a 

690
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,920
club who would be in the wizard 
Masons. 

691
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,199
Well. 
Do you think they're? 

692
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,560
Not. 
What's face Slughorn? 

693
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,800
Oh, Slughorn is all about it. 
Yeah, I love the Masons. 

694
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,719
Percy Weasley would join the 
Mason. 

695
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Yeah, Ernie Mack, Ernie 
Mcmillion. 

696
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:54,400
Oh. 
My God, Ernie. 

697
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,159
McMillan. 
Ernie McMillan. 

698
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,000
Yeah, he. 
Totally would. 

699
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,400
Maybe Sheamus? 
Yeah. 

700
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,560
I think Ron might want to be, 
but then he wouldn't. 

701
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,360
But he might when he was 
younger. 

702
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,040
Younger Ron would want to 
making. 

703
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,800
Fun of him. 
Maybe Bill would be 1 low key. 

704
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,080
Bill. 
He's way too cool, but he's 

705
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,640
pretty. 
Well, yeah, but he was also, 

706
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,760
wasn't he? 
Like head boy and prefect. 

707
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,040
Yeah, so. 
He's got, he's got a little bit 

708
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,520
of a responsibility streak going
on there. 

709
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,640
He might just go there for a hot
meal. 

710
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,320
He might be doing it for much 
the same reasons that doesn't. 

711
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,120
It sounds nice. 
Yeah, cuz word doesn't cook OK 

712
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,640
head can and accept it. 
Anyway. 

713
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,520
I could never take a vow to keep
anyone's secrets, no matter 

714
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,680
what. 
Oh, what if it's a secret I have

715
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,720
to tell? 
What if I really want to tell 

716
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,480
someone? 
Nobody make pools a secret 

717
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,960
keeper you. 
Know, I just find it timely that

718
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,200
here is where we learn that 
murder and treason are the only 

719
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,760
exceptions because we've just 
had Murphy being all weird and 

720
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,000
secretive about this case. 
I'm not suggesting he's a secret

721
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,880
Mason, but he is part of a group
that notoriously keeps each 

722
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,520
other's secrets. 
Very true. 

723
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,800
And a group that had a whole big
thing about being full of Masons

724
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,240
and giving each other's 
promotions like that was a big 

725
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:16,680
thing. 
The Freemasons and the Met. 

726
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:21,040
I'd be willing to believe that 
he's secretly a Mason and just 

727
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,800
didn't tell Robin. 
I just think we would have 

728
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,320
learned about it in this book if
it was going to do a thing. 

729
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,080
Oh yeah, we probably. 
Yeah, we would have. 

730
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,720
He takes the silence thing very 
serious. 

731
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,120
Yeah, very. 
Very seriously, I really love 

732
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,600
Strike and Robbins conversation 
about why men do stuff like the 

733
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,320
Freemasons because I think 
Strike spot on with his 

734
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,440
insights, especially about the 
we might like the hierarchical 

735
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,200
thing more than you do because 
very frequently I think that's 

736
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,240
the case. 
I also think what he said that 

737
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,760
men need a reason to meet up is 
very true. 

738
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,280
I think it reflects with Strike 
making a point to go to awardels

739
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,560
later where he is making that 
effort. 

740
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,200
It just rings really true to me.
For men I know you know, I think

741
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,520
it is more socially normal for 
women to get together and hang 

742
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,160
out that it is for men. 
You know, girls night is such a 

743
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,680
thing, a normal thing in our 
culture. 

744
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,600
I don't ever see videos for like
ideas for the next guy's night. 

745
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,760
You see much more about things 
like man caves, which are much 

746
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,880
more of like a solitary sort of 
place. 

747
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,720
Right, exactly. 
So Strike thinks about how this 

748
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,600
is the first time he's going to 
be alone with Robin and Murphy, 

749
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,000
and I'm having flashbacks of 
that meeting with Matthew in 

750
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,840
Silkworm. 
I'm like, which one is better or

751
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,800
worse? 
How are we? 

752
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,040
Judging. 
I love this comparison. 

753
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,200
In Silkworm, we had Robin 
desperate to make the men like 

754
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,240
each other, trying to show each 
of them off in their best light 

755
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,880
to each other. 
Now she's really just focused on

756
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,000
hiding her own feelings about 
Strike, but he's trying to show 

757
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,760
himself in the best light to 
Robin. 

758
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,520
Murphy's just angry and swinging
vodka. 

759
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,000
Yeah, this night's way more fun,
way more chaos. 

760
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,520
Better. 
Way more fun, sure. 

761
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,560
I think Strike would view it as 
more of a success. 

762
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:04,880
Definitely. 
Robin might view it as more of a

763
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,000
success because she got 
information out of it. 

764
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,000
And Murphy. 
I think Murphy and Matthew 

765
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,720
probably hated it pretty 
equally. 

766
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,880
Yeah, they're both equally 
miserable on that one. 

767
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,400
Yeah. 
So too bad. 

768
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,200
I do love our man's focus here 
though, because he is not 

769
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,840
letting himself to get 
distracted from his number one 

770
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,080
goal at every possible 
opportunity. 

771
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,280
He is strategizing, he is 
planning. 

772
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,680
He is going to win Robin away 
from that prick Murphy. 

773
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,000
He's going in with a plan. 
We. 

774
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,320
Believe in you we're. 
Rooting for him. 

775
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,960
OK, Chapter 12 all. 
Right in this chapter, Robin, 

776
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,760
Strike, and Murphy discuss the 
case while eating pizza. 

777
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,800
The epigraph reads we are all of
us, though not all equally 

778
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,640
mistaken, and this is listed as 
the Liturgy of the Ancient and 

779
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,640
Accepted Scottish Rite of 
Freemasonry by Albert Pike. 

780
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,760
But actually from morals and 
dogma of the ancient and 

781
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,640
accepted Scottish right of 
Freemasonry. 

782
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,200
My God, there's more than one of
these books. 

783
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,040
That was my exact thought just 
now. 

784
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,760
I don't know what all of them 
are mistaken about, but I like 

785
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,720
the idea that the mistakeness 
isn't equal because Murphy's got

786
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:15,920
to be the most mistaken. 
Right. 

787
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,480
Absolutely, this quote 
continues. 

788
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,440
The cherished dogmas of each of 
us are simply our own special 

789
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,840
form of error, our guesses at 
truth. 

790
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,200
And then it says it is our duty 
always to press forward in the 

791
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,240
search for truth. 
All three of them come into this

792
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,120
chapter with their own form of 
error. 

793
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,600
Murphy is obviously the most 
mistaken because he doesn't even

794
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,040
care about the pursuit of truth.
He's sharing information only 

795
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,120
because Robin wants it. 
He's doing 1/2 assed job. 

796
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,240
He's relapsed and lying about 
it, nursing his hatred of 

797
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,320
Strike, letting it like shape 
his opinion of the agency in 

798
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,160
Robin's work. 
Robin is also pretty mistaken. 

799
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,280
Her cherished dogma is clearly 
laid out. 

800
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,320
She thinks knows that she loves 
Murphy. 

801
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,840
She knows big quotation marks 
there that Strike isn't in love 

802
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,760
with her and doesn't want a 
relationship. 

803
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,640
They're both false ideas that 
she's clinging to instead of 

804
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,120
looking at the truth. 
Yeah. 

805
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,120
And strike, well, he's the least
mistaken. 

806
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,680
You know, his church dogma in 
this book is sort of his 

807
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,400
interpretation of Ted's advice. 
And he's using it to frame this 

808
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,640
whole situation as a as a boxing
match with fucking Murphy. 

809
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,560
And he's focusing on engineering
that perfect moment that will 

810
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,560
lead to a confession, when 
actually he should just be open 

811
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,280
and honest with Robin from the 
start and just say it and not 

812
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,560
worry about Murphy or the 
perfect moment. 

813
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,600
But he's still he's on the right
track. 

814
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,440
I understand wanting. 
The moment we understand it's, 

815
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,720
it's because he's so romantic. 
It's because he's trying to make

816
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:39,760
a Kairos. 
Moment, yeah, he's trying to be 

817
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,120
romantic. 
It's and also he's trying to 

818
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,440
make sure it's the right moment 
for Robin as well. 

819
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,800
He's obviously the closest to 
being on the right path here. 

820
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,360
Yeah. 
So we open this chapter with 

821
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,680
Robin's thoughts about Strike 
and Murphy, which means that we 

822
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,480
open with more lies to Murphy, 
gaslighting of herself and 

823
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,840
purposeful blindness. 
Because, Robin, he is in love 

824
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,480
with you. 
My. 

825
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,080
God, yeah, yeah. 
Her thoughts here, They've been 

826
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,960
perfectly friendly before we 
started dating, and now they're 

827
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,480
antagonistic. 
Why could it? 

828
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,120
Be it's a mystery. 
Murphy still believes that 

829
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,400
Strike is dating Bijou. 
This lie for and Robin it's said

830
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,080
to be the only thing that shut 
down Murphy's suspicion of 

831
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,320
Strike and Robin's friendship. 
The big question here is can we 

832
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,400
blame him for being suspicious? 
Of course not. 

833
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,520
No, because Robin is actually 
fully in love with Strike. 

834
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,040
I know and. 
Imagine even. 

835
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,160
If even if she successfully kept
that a secret, it's still very 

836
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,040
obvious to literally everyone 
that Strike is massively in love

837
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,760
with her. 
That would legitimately be a red

838
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,800
flag in a relationship. 
Yeah. 

839
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,600
Do you think that this lie might
still come back to bite Robin in

840
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,040
the ass? 
Because I hope so. 

841
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,160
Yeah. 
I don't. 

842
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,200
Bijou and Humboldt have been in 
the papers. 

843
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Murphy would need to do is to 
Google Bijou lawyer and then he 

844
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,400
does that stories of her denying
any connection to strike and 

845
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,880
also having Honbold's baby would
pop up. 

846
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,960
This lie is so. 
Fragile. 

847
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,080
I mean, I hope that it does, but
unless Bijou is not what she 

848
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,080
goes by professionally because 
her name is Belinda, right? 

849
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,320
Oh, is. 
It it's still a fragile lie and 

850
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,720
I hope it comes back up me. 
Oh, I hope it feels like one of 

851
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:23,520
those loose threads. 
It's going to be pulled. 

852
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,920
On and it's not that I want 
Robin to like be in trouble, so 

853
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,080
to speak, but Joe used the word 
comeuppance for strike in this 

854
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,640
book. 
I feel like. 

855
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,240
Does that mean that Robin should
have a comeuppance too in the 

856
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:39,240
form of drama for lying to this 
man that she wants things for 

857
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,080
over a year? 
I hope so. 

858
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,440
She calls what Murphy does 
unnecessary displays of 

859
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,680
jealousy. 
Girl. 

860
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,840
Obviously. 
Go on, Robin. 

861
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,040
I'm not here to defend him, but 
I think. 

862
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,160
Really the most necessary form 
of. 

863
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,240
Jealousy. 
The jealousy is pretty well 

864
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,800
founded. 
Yeah, it's extremely well 

865
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,120
founded. 
Yeah. 

866
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,080
I think this is a place where we
can and probably have to defend 

867
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,280
him. 
Robin says that she completely 

868
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,440
understands why he's jealous, 
not because she's in love with 

869
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,600
Strike. 
The actual reason that we all 

870
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,440
understand why he's jealous, but
because of his ex leaving him 

871
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,560
for another man, Robin. 
I'd say that Robin is 

872
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,080
acknowledging that he has a 
right to be jealous, but she's 

873
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,320
not acknowledging the real 
reason. 

874
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,520
And then we get to this classic 
line. 

875
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,120
The reasons for Strikes 
antipathy towards Murphy were 

876
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:32,920
more mysterious to Robin. 
I can't, girl. 

877
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,120
His mysterious. 
Hatred for this guy which just 

878
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,040
happened to start the moment you
went out on a date with him for 

879
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,760
the first time, girl. 
This is so frustrating to me. 

880
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,080
Strike has been raked across the
coals by everyone for his 

881
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,040
willful blindness in previous 
books regarding his own 

882
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,000
feelings, but doing it at this 
point in the series where it's 

883
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,640
already been mentioned? 
Strike has already mentioned and

884
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,640
hinted that he's in love with 
her. 

885
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,600
Right when he said the thing 
about Charlotte, he's already 

886
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,120
tried to kiss her. 
Ilsa plainly told her that 

887
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,040
Biju's sole purpose was to 
distract himself from his 

888
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,680
feelings for her. 
And I just remembered she also 

889
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,160
told that Strike is hating her 
dating Murphy in the beginning 

890
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,400
of the running grave and is like
come on Robin, obviously he's 

891
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,800
jealous. 
This is the kind of thing where 

892
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,320
people are feeling frustration, 
I think with Robin, but also 

893
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,920
with more than Robin. 
You know, this is, I've seen a 

894
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,240
lot of people feeling 
frustration with the book 

895
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:31,720
itself, with the writing itself,
because they feel like it's 

896
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,240
unbelievable that she's lying to
herself this much. 

897
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,600
And I know people want us to 
talk about it so. 

898
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,280
But we're also not going to make
up criticisms. 

899
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,560
We're not going to make up 
things that we. 

900
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Well, I'm not going to make it 
up. 

901
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Well, yeah, I just think that 
putting in criticism for the 

902
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,000
sake of being more negative 
about it. 

903
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,840
Well, that's not what I'm doing 
and I just. 

904
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,680
I know I'm not. 
I'm saying other people just 

905
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520
seem to be like, you know, I 
wish that you guys would be more

906
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,360
negative and critical. 
No, I know about the. 

907
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,400
Book and it's like that. 
We're not going to do that. 

908
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,080
I get where people are having 
trouble understanding where 

909
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Robin's coming from because I am
also feeling that way, and so I 

910
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,080
I can understand where they're 
feeling disconnected from the 

911
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,120
story. 
In certain parts I get being 

912
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,040
frustrated. 
With Robin, because of this 

913
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,120
stuff I do, and I'm not immune 
to that, I think it's more 

914
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,040
frustrating for us as readers 
because we're in both of their 

915
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,720
heads and we know what Robin is 
saying isn't true. 

916
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,600
But I guess what I think about 
when I think about this and I 

917
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,440
try and like kind of fit it in 
with everything else we already 

918
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,640
know is I remember when Robin 
talks to Ilsa in Ink Black Heart

919
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,760
about the whole situation after 
the attempted kiss and all that.

920
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,480
Even then, Robin thinks about 
how even though Ilsa knows 

921
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,920
Strike well, she Robin knows 
Strike better. 

922
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,400
So I don't know that she would 
necessarily take Ilsa's word for

923
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,040
it that Strike is using Bijou to
distract himself. 

924
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,440
Hinting that his ex knew that he
was in love with her and trying 

925
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,600
to kiss her aren't really clear 
or straightforward admissions. 

926
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,280
All she's kind of seen from 
Strike so far as confusing mixed

927
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,360
signals. 
Plus the whole like you're 

928
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,000
talking about it last episode 
with like Coco and Madeline. 

929
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,800
And I think that like those two 
instances really are like, girl,

930
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,720
don't humiliate yourself again. 
Don't do that. 

931
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,400
Because all she's seen from 
Strike is confusing mixed 

932
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,560
signals. 
It doesn't ring us. 

933
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:23,320
Totally unrealistic to me, 
especially when she's already 

934
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,880
all mixed up already because of 
the PTSD, which in in and of 

935
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,680
itself is a disease of 
contradictions. 

936
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,880
Between that and the and the 
fact that she's stubborn like 

937
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,200
Strike, I guess I can understand
it a little bit more, but I 

938
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,200
guess I get where people are 
coming from with being 

939
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,520
frustrated. 
I guess if each of those things 

940
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,680
were alone by themselves, it 
would make it more 

941
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,080
understandable. 
But when it's all together, this

942
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,160
is where Robin is totally 
turning into the willful 

943
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,920
blindness sort of thing. 
Trying to kiss her, trying to 

944
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,400
tell her Charlotte knew I was in
love with you. 

945
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,320
What else is saying? 
All of it together. 

946
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,640
She is being willfully blind at 
this point, and I think that 

947
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,080
it's hard at this point in the 
series for some people to 

948
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,920
understand it. 
And so I do get it when it comes

949
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,360
to the feelings of frustration 
with the writing. 

950
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,920
I just feel we don't have the 
whole picture yet. 

951
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,640
And I do trust JK Rowling to be 
true to the characters while 

952
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,480
also being true to what's 
realistic, because some people 

953
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,800
are saying it's not realistic, 
but we don't have the whole 

954
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,400
picture yet. 
Bear that in mind. 

955
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,520
We're going to get there. 
That bothers me a lot about some

956
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,080
of the major criticisms was 
like, we don't have the full 

957
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,400
picture. 
It all has a greater purpose. 

958
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,080
It's all going to fit into the 
whole thing. 

959
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,800
And I don't know, it's like 
every other book. 

960
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,800
When there's not straightforward
progress or Robin doesn't act in

961
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,400
the way that we expect her to, I
feel like there's always these 

962
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,520
same kinds of criticisms that 
tend to crop up. 

963
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,240
And I don't know, I get kind of 
fed up with it because people 

964
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,120
said that Robin wasn't in 
character in Ink Black Heart 

965
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,840
either, and oh, they're dragging
this out too long. 

966
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,040
That's not realistic. 
Or this was ghost written. 

967
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,960
This was written by somebody 
else. 

968
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,120
You're on the wrong corners of 
the Internet. 

969
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,080
I love not listening to shit 
takes like that. 

970
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,080
So when I see those kinds of 
takes, it's the same shit. 

971
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,120
And people said that even like 
for Harry Potter, like for 

972
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,840
Deathly Hallows, I saw people 
talking about how they thought 

973
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,360
that Deathly Hallows had been 
ghost written. 

974
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,000
Yeah, the problem is listening 
to people on the Internet. 

975
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,840
Yeah, I think there's a 
difference in saying that 

976
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,440
something feels out of 
character. 

977
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,800
I think that that is crossing 
into the anime territory because

978
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,360
she knows these characters 
better than we do and has the 

979
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,640
whole picture. 
But I think that saying I don't 

980
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,600
understand this, I can't relate 
to this, this is frustrating to 

981
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,600
me, is different than that. 
Yeah, and I've heard, but I've 

982
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,160
heard less of people saying that
and I've heard more people 

983
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,960
saying it's out of character. 
Like it's not. 

984
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,960
I don't understand it. 
It's a clearly Joe doesn't know 

985
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,440
her own characters. 
This was written wrong. 

986
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640
I mean, people are going to 
complain on the Internet. 

987
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:02,920
Yeah, I try not to listen. 
But as far as our discussions, I

988
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,640
do understand questioning some 
things and trying to talk it out

989
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,760
because there were things that 
she said that I couldn't 

990
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,000
understand, like when she talked
about Robin lying to herself 

991
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,960
less than Strike in one of the 
interviews. 

992
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,600
That was something that left me 
feeling like, do I get these 

993
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,960
characters? 
Like what am I not 

994
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,040
understanding? 
Because I don't see that. 

995
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,000
I know the question you're 
talking about, and I know that 

996
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,440
it bothered you a lot because I 
remember you texted me about it 

997
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,440
because you were like, I don't 
know how to feel about this. 

998
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,640
Yeah, but in the clip it asked 
all of Strike and Robin being 

999
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,760
influenced by their past, to 
which Joe responds. 

1000
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,640
I think Robin in some ways has 
more self knowledge and Strike 

1001
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,080
and that she's more open to 
analyzing why she may feel 

1002
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,600
mistrustful. 
Or the reverse. 

1003
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,160
Strike is a large man who can 
afford to operate on perhaps 

1004
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,240
slightly less watchfulness and 
vigilance. 

1005
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,520
However, he's someone who hides 
things a lot, even from himself.

1006
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,240
He's a little bit deluded 
because he thinks of himself as 

1007
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,400
someone who's very honest with 
himself, but he wouldn't 

1008
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,400
currently be in the dilemma he's
in emotionally in this book if 

1009
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,920
he hadn't failed to acknowledge 
what he was actually feeling. 

1010
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,840
Again, so much more I can say 
I'm just going to leave. 

1011
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,160
That there, Yeah, this one's a 
struggle. 

1012
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,320
Robin's self knowledge here is, 
as far as I'm interpreting it, 

1013
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,200
more connected to her rape and 
physical safety, and I don't 

1014
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,080
think that it's supposed to be 
all-encompassing just from how 

1015
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,640
I'm reading Joe's and listening 
to Joe's answer here. 

1016
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,360
In some ways. 
Yeah, I I think that's why she 

1017
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,520
contrasts it with Strike being a
big man who doesn't have to be 

1018
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,200
as wary of being safe right 
after that. 

1019
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,800
Then she talks about how Strike 
lacks some self-awareness when 

1020
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,720
it comes to his feelings 
specifically. 

1021
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,400
So I don't know that Joe's 
thinks that Robin is always the 

1022
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,120
more emotionally self 
knowledgeable 1 and you still 

1023
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,000
got a good grasp on her. 
But it did. 

1024
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,480
She did word it weird. 
I think she just shifts from one

1025
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,720
topic to another a bit. 
Yeah, but it's it's putting them

1026
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,440
next to each other like that, 
you know in what? 

1027
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,680
In some ways Robin has more self
knowledge than strike. 

1028
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,680
So if she's talking about being 
vigilant and stuff and. 

1029
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,080
Yeah, because of her past. 
But then she jumps to strike is 

1030
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,000
in this in this position because
he's not honest with himself. 

1031
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,440
Putting those things together is
confusing. 

1032
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,560
I get what you're saying but 
it's confusing to me to have 

1033
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,600
those things together because it
does seem like it's strikes the 

1034
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,240
reason that they're not 
currently together because he 

1035
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,080
doesn't acknowledge his feelings
but then Robin is the one 

1036
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,720
running away from them in so 
many instances so I'm just. 

1037
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,720
Well, if he hadn't, I think that
if like prior to Coco, if he 

1038
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:30,280
had, maybe I think that this is 
her saying that if he had, 

1039
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,680
things would have gone 
differently. 

1040
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,720
Maybe she might have been OK 
with it. 

1041
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:36,960
She's running away because of 
Coco, because of Madeline. 

1042
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,680
She's just like every time she 
thinks there's something that's 

1043
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,560
going to happen, she gets a 
don't think about that, don't 

1044
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,400
even think about that. 
He doesn't want that. 

1045
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,160
But he also thought it too and 
then she went off and stayed in 

1046
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:52,720
a marriage for a year. 
So it's like how is Strike just 

1047
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:56,320
in this position because he 
failed to acknowledge like it's 

1048
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,280
been both of them. 
It feels like Strike is the one 

1049
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,840
who knows himself better. 
So I'm just I'm so confused by 

1050
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,680
this answer. 
And so I understand what you 

1051
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,120
mean about the. 
But they're it's how they're 

1052
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,080
marked by their past. 
Strike is marked by his past in 

1053
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,840
the fact that he's not. 
He refuses to acknowledge love 

1054
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,760
for being what it is because of 
his past dealings. 

1055
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,560
Emotionally. 
You know Robin's past, the 

1056
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,280
specifically the trauma part. 
You know, the acute trauma 

1057
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,040
influences whether or not she 
feels like she can trust people 

1058
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,760
and strikes past influences 
whether or not he can be 

1059
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,440
emotionally honest with himself 
about things like love and 

1060
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,160
having developing feelings for 
someone else. 

1061
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,680
In this book, though, it's. 
Well, I don't think that she's. 

1062
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,520
So that was another one of my 
questions is, is she talking 

1063
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,280
about currently or in like 
overall in the whole series? 

1064
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,160
That was another thing that I 
was curious about with this 

1065
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,040
answer as well. 
Think that for Robin, I think 

1066
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,240
that that's like a an overall 
sort of thing because she says 

1067
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:01,400
specifically he wouldn't be in 
this dilemma. 

1068
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,400
He's an emotionally in this 
book. 

1069
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,040
She specifies that it's in this 
book. 

1070
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,520
But when she's talking about 
Robin being more self 

1071
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,600
knowledgeable when it comes to 
feeling mistrustful and all that

1072
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,080
kind of stuff, she does she just
it's, it sounds like she's 

1073
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,440
speaking generally. 
Is this the whole answer? 

1074
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,120
Yes, we can come back to it 
because I'm sure we have more. 

1075
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,480
Yeah. 
Let's come back to this one 

1076
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,000
because it's a long 
conversation. 

1077
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,760
Yeah, this next bit we get to 
the start of Robin convincing 

1078
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,160
herself of a story about Strike 
that's totally false, that he's 

1079
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,240
afraid he'll lose his business 
partner to marriage and 

1080
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:37,640
children. 
He's not. 

1081
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,320
He's afraid he'll lose the love 
of his life. 

1082
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,400
Totally different, but she's 
going to build and build on this

1083
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,320
story for the rest of the book 
and interpret every move Strike 

1084
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,840
makes as another block in the 
he's doing this thing wall 

1085
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,320
because she's afraid to consider
the alternatives. 

1086
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,960
I mean, I almost know what to 
say about this because it's so 

1087
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,560
frustrating to me. 
Just take all of that Robin and 

1088
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,720
apply it to the other man. 
That's more appropriate. 

1089
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,840
Yeah, pretty clearly. 
Projecting all the things that 

1090
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,920
she's subconsciously worrying 
about with Murphy on the strike.

1091
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,560
She's probably not even worried 
about them because she doesn't. 

1092
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,600
Care. 
She's not at all. 

1093
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,960
Not at all. 
There's one sentence here that 

1094
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:21,160
Robin says if that was indeed 
his concern, Robin found it both

1095
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,920
insulting and infuriating. 
And she goes on to be insulted 

1096
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,560
and infuriating to the for the 
rest of the book because she's 

1097
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,280
forgotten that it was a question
whether he was acting like this 

1098
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,960
and just instead accepted it as 
true. 

1099
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,880
Yeah, she said. 
Oh yes, I've discovered the 

1100
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,600
truth, completely forgetting 
that. 

1101
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,160
It's not the truth. 
Yeah. 

1102
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,560
And this is not a new thing with
Robin. 

1103
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,480
The first time I listened to the
books back-to-back, I listened 

1104
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,360
to them so quickly that I was 
picking up on things in earlier 

1105
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,160
books that you don't really see 
when you read them a year apart 

1106
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,880
for the releases, you know? 
And I found myself kind of 

1107
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,360
annoyed with her, to be honest, 
because she was constantly 

1108
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,360
projecting things on to strike 
and being angry at him for it 

1109
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,160
when none of it was true. 
And I was like, Robin, stop, 

1110
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,480
what are you doing? 
It's not fair. 

1111
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,680
You know, like, for example, 
he's going to think I'm not good

1112
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,760
at my job. 
She thinks that so much, so much

1113
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,560
over like books 2-3 and four, 
and I think it comes back in Ink

1114
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,360
Black Heart as well. 
But it's really noticeable when 

1115
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,840
you listen to them back-to-back 
in like a week. 

1116
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,920
Now she's just doing it with a 
different topic. 

1117
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,800
But I think the good news is 
that eventually she grows to 

1118
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,240
trust that he's not thinking 
that she's bad at her job 

1119
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,560
because he tells her things that
she needs to hear. 

1120
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,200
Like, you're the best I've ever 
worked with. 

1121
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,560
But you know, she could hear the
things that she needs to hear 

1122
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,960
sooner if she communicated. 
So hopefully part of her growth 

1123
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,680
will be telling him exactly what
worries her about about the 

1124
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,040
possibility of them so that he 
can address it. 

1125
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,560
And this pattern of hers is a 
cognitive distortion, a very 

1126
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,440
common one. 
She needs to do more work with 

1127
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,440
her CBT therapy because this is 
it's mind reading. 

1128
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,680
Yeah, she thinks she can 
remember she's reading his 

1129
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,240
thoughts about her, but they're 
actually her thoughts and her 

1130
00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:59,240
insecurities about herself. 
Yeah. 

1131
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,760
Hopefully Doc Brock will pick up
on that. 

1132
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,720
Come on, Doc Brock. 
But Robin thinks, of course 

1133
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:07,280
there was another possible 
explanation for Strikes 

1134
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,120
attitude, but she wasn't going 
to think about that. 

1135
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,320
Except that she did think about 
it more often than she wanted to

1136
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,360
admit. 
Same. 

1137
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,000
I told Amelia exactly what 
Charlotte wrote. 

1138
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,800
She knew I was in love with you.
Oh my God, can't wait to see her

1139
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,400
thinking about the proposal. 
But. 

1140
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,400
I know, I know, it just makes me
all flustered. 

1141
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,000
Robin heated her I'll 
disciplined Brain for returning 

1142
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,960
yet again to the conversation in
which Strike had lobbed his 

1143
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,160
bombshell, then walked 
nonchalantly away. 

1144
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,800
Robin. 
Sweetheart, Robin, I'm going to 

1145
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,200
hold your hand when I say this. 
Yeah. 

1146
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,600
You're literally the one who 
walked nonchalantly away. 

1147
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,720
You literally walked away from 
that conversation with your 

1148
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:52,560
boyfriend. 
My darling, Your, your feet are 

1149
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,240
the ones moving. 
You can guess like yourself. 

1150
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,880
That's not going to work on me 
because I have the receipts. 

1151
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,080
I can go open the last book, 
Robin. 

1152
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,320
Someone should e-mail Robin a 
copy of Running Grave with that 

1153
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,600
bit highlighted. 
I would highlight several bits 

1154
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,040
for her if she was going to read
the running. 

1155
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,520
Yeah, Robin's gaslighting 
herself. 

1156
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,880
Of course JK Rowling knows this,
right? 

1157
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,480
This isn't true. 
She's Yeah, she's writing that 

1158
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,960
Robin is thinking these things. 
It doesn't mean that she thinks 

1159
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,760
them or that is writing them as 
facts. 

1160
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,160
So we're going to see Robin tell
herself the truth eventually. 

1161
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,880
Yeah, Joe knows it. 
Is an unreliable narrator. 

1162
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,520
Very, very. 
Yeah. 

1163
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,120
Because she's destabilized. 
Deeply destabilized memory is 

1164
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,480
not working. 
My memory works though. 

1165
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,040
Not so much, but some things I 
remember. 

1166
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Important things like Strike and
Robin. 

1167
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,960
Yeah, Joe's doing this 
deliberately because there's 

1168
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,720
it's symptoms of what's 
happening with Robin, which is 

1169
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,360
cruising straight towards a 
total breakdown, I thought. 

1170
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,920
You were going to say cruising 
for a bruising for some reason, 

1171
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,120
I don't know why. 
Cruising for a mental bruising, 

1172
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,160
Yeah. 
Speaking of Doc Brock, I'm 

1173
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,240
really hoping that she spent 
some time teaching Robin that 

1174
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,160
she's allowed to think her 
thoughts and feel her emotions, 

1175
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,600
and that her internal world 
isn't something she should be 

1176
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,320
disciplining into silence. 
Yeah, you mean she can feel 

1177
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,120
stuff without analyzing and 
disciplining it half to fucking 

1178
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,960
death? 
And then she thinks he's not in 

1179
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,800
love with you, he was just being
an annoying sod. 

1180
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,760
Strike can be an annoying sod 
and also deeply in love with 

1181
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,720
you, Robin. 
They're not mutually exclusive. 

1182
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,040
I just don't understand how she 
gets to this place though 

1183
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,400
because has he ever decided to 
be annoying by joking that he's 

1184
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,440
in love with her? 
That's not something they joke 

1185
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,160
about. 
She's just jumping from how he 

1186
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,440
annoys me sometimes. 
I need to find an excuse, you 

1187
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,040
know? 
She's starting from the emotion 

1188
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,480
place of I need to make this not
exist because it's terrifying to

1189
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,120
me, so I will do literally 
anything in my brain to make it 

1190
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,800
not happen. 
This is one of those things 

1191
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,960
where if she just said it out 
loud to someone else, she would 

1192
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,080
realize how nuts this sounds. 
Because sometimes when you're 

1193
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,680
like in your head real bad and 
you're isolating, you don't 

1194
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,360
think about how crazy some of 
the things you're thinking are 

1195
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,520
until they come out of your 
mouth and you're like, oh. 

1196
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,960
And you see someone else's face 
and you're like, so that wasn't 

1197
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,320
a normal thing to say. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1198
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,440
Robin needs that sort of moment.
Like, oh. 

1199
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,280
Elsa, where are you? 
Well, we know she's not going to

1200
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,120
listen to Elsa. 
Yeah, I know. 

1201
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,120
This line feels important, it 
says. 

1202
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,000
She wiped the coffee table a 
little more energetically than 

1203
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,160
was required, as though to defy 
the slight throbbing of her 

1204
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,560
operation site, and reminded 
herself that she was happy with 

1205
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,080
Murphy. 
I think the reason why this line

1206
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,320
feels important is because, 
again, it's showing us that 

1207
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,200
Murphy is this thorn in her 
side, and she's putting up with 

1208
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,840
it anyway. 
To defy what she knows is true. 

1209
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,560
So she turns on her TV for a 
distraction only to find 

1210
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,240
Jonathan waist staring back at 
her. 

1211
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,320
Oh no. 
How horribly appropriate to have

1212
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,240
this creep literally haunting 
her in the middle of her own 

1213
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,040
little self brainwashing 
session. 

1214
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,000
She cannot escape this cult and 
what her time there did to her. 

1215
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,840
You know, maybe Doc Brock will 
have to talk to a shrink that 

1216
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,600
specializes in deprogramming. 
Deprogramming Robin from her own

1217
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,000
cult of. 
Her own cult of lies. 

1218
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,040
I think I love my. 
That's the worst cult to join. 

1219
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,080
The worst cult. 
It's interesting that you say 

1220
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,240
this because I hadn't thought 
about that before. 

1221
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,160
Is there something specific that
happened in the UHC? 

1222
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,520
Or she was taught that she is 
doing, without realizing it, to 

1223
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,880
lie to herself. 
Well, she'd spent a lot of time 

1224
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,160
in the cult. 
You're expected to believe 

1225
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,760
blatant untruths, blatant 
contradictions. 

1226
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,600
You're expected to go along with
it. 

1227
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,680
I think that that sort of, 
You're expected to believe this 

1228
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,320
and this. 
They don't make sense. 

1229
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,640
You know, they're not true. 
They contradict each other. 

1230
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,320
Believe them. 
Anyways, I think four months of 

1231
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,360
that can, yeah, wear you down a 
bit. 

1232
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,680
Four months of having to look as
though you're in on this. 

1233
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,480
And if someone sees that you 
don't believe it, you'll be 

1234
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,480
punished. 
It might put a fear of her, of 

1235
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,640
her revealing her true emotions.
She might be more afraid of 

1236
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,760
revealing what she thinks to 
people because of that 

1237
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,400
experience. 
That makes sense. 

1238
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,480
The constant thought 
redirecting. 

1239
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,200
Yeah, I genuinely think the time
the call affected her a lot, and

1240
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,320
it might be contributing to a 
lot of what she's doing in this 

1241
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,720
book to herself. 
This thought that Robin has 

1242
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,600
about Murphy being late, and 
obviously we know why he's late,

1243
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,200
but she thinks that he'd only 
have himself to blame if Strike 

1244
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,360
was there first. 
It seems like a bit of a weird 

1245
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,440
thought because he would get mad
if Strike was there first. 

1246
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,760
Yeah, it would have been a 
hilarious switch up though from 

1247
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,160
the drinks with Matthew and 
Silkworm. 

1248
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,440
It kind of reminds me of the 
Spit and Lethal White where it's

1249
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,320
always killed me, even though 
it's a different situation when 

1250
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,000
she and Matthew are on their 
anniversary trip and she doesn't

1251
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,520
take any painkillers because 
she's a headache so that Matthew

1252
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,080
won't get mad that she's 
complaining. 

1253
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,360
And I don't know if this is more
of Robin assuming that people 

1254
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,480
will get mad at her for any 
little thing, but the thought of

1255
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,320
someone thinking that you're 
complaining for having a 

1256
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,520
headache was always the most 
ridiculous thing for me. 

1257
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,560
I was just always willing to 
believe it because it was 

1258
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,520
Matthew, you know? 
Just like I'm totally willing to

1259
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,240
believe that Murphy would be mad
if Strike was there before him. 

1260
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,800
But maybe this is more of Robin 
doing that thing where she's 

1261
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,480
assuming what people are 
thinking and taking it as fact. 

1262
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,840
I am 100% willing to believe 
both of those things about both 

1263
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,360
of those animals. 
The M yeah, it's just so 

1264
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,880
ridiculous that she has a 
headache. 

1265
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,760
She can't have a headache. 
Like, that's just so ridiculous.

1266
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,600
Baby, if you weren't thinking 
about work so much, you wouldn't

1267
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:28,920
have a headache. 
It's not so. 

1268
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,680
Nice work. 
Yeah, I know. 

1269
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,720
Yeah, it's work. 
That he's so stupid. 

1270
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Yeah. 
So Murphy finally shows up late,

1271
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,400
flushed and drinking from a 
suspicious water bottle. 

1272
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,560
And can I say Murphy, I see what
you're doing, OK? 

1273
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,000
Also did he drive here drinking 
straight up vodka from a water 

1274
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,520
bottle? 
He says that he got blocked in, 

1275
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:53,280
right? 
So yeah. 

1276
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,600
And I assume that that's what he
was doing over when they drove 

1277
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,600
up to Christmas too. 
So Robin greets Murphy with a 

1278
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,440
kiss and a hug, glad to know 
he's been getting some exercise.

1279
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,240
Hopefully it had brought down 
his stress level. 

1280
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,440
I hate that we have the 
experience for giving him 

1281
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,000
affection. 
It is way less cute it is 

1282
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,640
discussing. 
It's way less cute than the hug 

1283
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,960
and kiss that she gives to 
Strike in the previous chapter. 

1284
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,120
It's rude that we have to read 
about it. 

1285
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,840
It's like how it was watching 
Strike with Lorelei and 

1286
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,120
Madeline. 
Like, go away. 

1287
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,720
But Murphy has definitely not 
been doing exercise and I highly

1288
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,240
doubt that his stress levels are
going to be brought. 

1289
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:33,200
No, no, I mean, I almost can't 
blame the man for needing a 

1290
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,720
drink when he's about to spend 
the evening with his girlfriend 

1291
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,160
and the man she's in love with, 
so yeah. 

1292
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,680
So we've had Robin lying to 
herself, now we've got Murphy 

1293
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,880
showing up and lying his ass off
to her, and soon we're going to 

1294
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,560
get Strike lying to Murphy to 
cover up for Robin's lies to 

1295
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,280
Murphy. 
This is going to be a fun 

1296
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,720
chapter. 
It is, yeah. 

1297
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,280
Robin tells Murphy here that 
she's so grateful for this. 

1298
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,200
And his response is, yeah, well,
you didn't want to weekend in 

1299
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,280
Paris. 
I don't know if it's me being 

1300
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,640
too critical, but he doesn't 
even say you're welcome. 

1301
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,600
And I think it's because he's 
not welcome. 

1302
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,880
He doesn't want to do it for 
her. 

1303
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,800
It wasn't like, oh, of course 
you're welcome, anything for 

1304
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:12,640
you. 
No, no, no. 

1305
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,040
It's just that he had to do it 
because this is what she wanted.

1306
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,920
I feel like the problem is that 
she doesn't want the thing that 

1307
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,520
she's supposed to want. 
Bigger picture, though, that's 

1308
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,600
absolutely true. 
She doesn't want the things that

1309
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,680
she's supposed to want. 
So Strike arrives on time and 

1310
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,000
with a bottle of wine for his 
Hostess. 

1311
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,640
That's growth, baby. 
He's putting in the work, he 

1312
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,480
said he was willing to do it, 
and it's a nice juxtaposition 

1313
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,720
with Murphy being late and 
showing up with fake props. 

1314
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,600
That water bottle? 
Strike is basically surveying 

1315
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,960
the terrain before he enters 
into battle. 

1316
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,920
The flat was mostly unchanged 
since the last time Strike had 

1317
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,880
been here when he'd been 
sleeping over, though 

1318
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:59,520
unfortunately only on the sofa 
bed, unfortunately. 

1319
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,160
Unfortunately. 
Unfortunately. 

1320
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:03,960
Am I right that this is? 
God. 

1321
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,320
This is the first of the few 
moments where he's openly 

1322
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,680
thinking these kinds of 
thoughts, right? 

1323
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,280
And killing us all in the 
process. 

1324
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,080
The way I gasp when I read that 
one word. 

1325
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,720
I know. 
And the oh, the other moment 

1326
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,080
like it that I really like that 
comes to mind is him thinking 

1327
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,640
about having hopefully 
consummated their relationship 

1328
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,880
after a declaration later on 
just. 

1329
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,320
Kill me. 
Just kill me. 

1330
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,240
Yeah. 
Strike wonders if Murphy knows 

1331
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,000
about that, And I, too, wonder 
about this. 

1332
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,000
I highly suspect that he does 
not, even though it's not his 

1333
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,400
business. 
They weren't even together. 

1334
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,880
But there's just so much I want 
Murphy to know, you know? 

1335
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,360
Yeah, really. 
Rub his nose in it. 

1336
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,800
Oh yeah. 
Strike does his little sweep and

1337
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,960
he clocks Murphy's gym bag left 
obnoxiously outside the bedroom 

1338
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,200
door. 
Marking his territory. 

1339
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,240
Yeah, you might as well have 
just come in and peed all around

1340
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,920
my desk. 
Exactly. 

1341
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,520
It's a line from friends. 
You're welcome. 

1342
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,440
He also sees that Phyllis is 
flourishing despite Murphy's 

1343
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,720
best efforts. 
Yeah, very sweet. 

1344
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,760
I used to really want Murphy to 
know that Strike bought her this

1345
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,080
plant or the dress, but now the 
bracelet is on the top of my 

1346
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,320
list about things Strike bought 
Robin that I want Murphy to 

1347
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,400
know. 
I feel like it's a bit sadistic 

1348
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,080
of me that I want all of these 
things to come out just so 

1349
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,200
Murphy can know. 
No, no it's not. 

1350
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,480
I want it. 
I just, he needs to suffer 

1351
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,000
because he exists, you know, and
this is one way I can hope for 

1352
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,640
it to happen. 
Also, there'd be so much drama. 

1353
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,520
I know it'd be so good. 
I want to see him absolutely 

1354
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,000
crush out over all this. 
It's so fucking funny. 

1355
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,760
He. 
Bought you a dress? 

1356
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,000
A bracelet. 
Third, one of the pictures on 

1357
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,200
the mantelpiece is now of Robin 
and Murphy arms around each 

1358
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,440
other in front of what looked 
ominously like Robin's family 

1359
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,320
home in Yorkshire. 
First of all, gag. 

1360
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,120
Second of all, I really like the
ominously here because we all 

1361
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,560
feel that way about this photo 
strike. 

1362
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,360
Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

1363
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,600
I am just begging for Joe to 
please let Robin replace this 

1364
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,320
picture with a picture of her 
and strike. 

1365
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,400
Please and thank you. 
So if Murphy doesn't shut up 

1366
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,000
about this information being 
super sensitive, I swear to God 

1367
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,240
he's just so annoying about it. 
Like, we get it. 

1368
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,000
What I have is highly 
confidential. 

1369
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,720
We no shit 10 times. 
Got it. 

1370
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,160
Also it really annoys me how he 
makes sure to go on about this 

1371
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:18,200
to Strike alone in a quiet voice
so Robin doesn't hear like rude.

1372
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,720
Also why is he telling Strike 
that he's only gotten the info 

1373
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,520
because Robin asked him to? 
Like, yeah, it's the only 

1374
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,960
benefit to having you hear Ryan 
like. 

1375
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,720
The line that's so funny that 
says as it was hardly likely 

1376
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,200
Strike thought Murphy had gone 
digging for information. 

1377
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,200
For love of him, Strike wasn't 
entirely sure why he was being 

1378
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,320
told this. 
Yeah, I know it was silly. 

1379
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,880
I guess it's just Murphy's way 
of explaining to Strike that he 

1380
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,120
doesn't really. 
They want to help them, but he's

1381
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,280
risking something by doing it, 
you know? 

1382
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,760
Rude of him really. 
Like OK. 

1383
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,880
But then I I really enjoy 
Robin's mini freak out in the 

1384
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,720
kitchen when she hears Murphy 
ask about Bijou. 

1385
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,880
It is amazing. 
I love everything about this 

1386
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,320
even though it causes huge 
problems later. 

1387
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,720
Right now I can just sit back 
and enjoy how funny it is. 

1388
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,680
But obviously I think that 
Murphy is trying to assess the 

1389
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,240
situation to make sure that 
strike is still taken. 

1390
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,160
When Murphy realizes Strike's 
single and and has been so for a

1391
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,920
long time. 
And that he's proposed to Robin 

1392
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:18,399
he got. 
Consumed. 

1393
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,439
Yeah. 
I love it. 

1394
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,920
And then of course, it's so 
adorable that Robin avoids 

1395
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,439
looking at Strike, but I wonder 
if he's looking at her and 

1396
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,160
noticing the flush and the 
blush, you know? 

1397
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,240
I sure hope he does. 
Now we get some plot stuff where

1398
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,279
Murphy lays out the basics of 
the Silvervault murder in a very

1399
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,800
annoying way for them. 
Yes. 

1400
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:44,160
So the important info for us 
here is timeline wise. 

1401
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,319
Wright, who we know is Tyler, 
had been living at his rented 

1402
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:50,359
flat for a month and working at 
the silver shop for two weeks 

1403
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:52,840
when he died. 
All of his information was fake 

1404
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,000
and his references were burner 
phones. 

1405
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,520
And I'm pretty sure this is what
the cleaner Todd helped Tyler 

1406
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,240
get all set up to get him the 
job, but also to make it as hard

1407
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,840
as possible to figure out who he
really was after he was 

1408
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,040
murdered. 
I am having one of those dumb 

1409
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,479
moments where something's 
clicking into place for me 

1410
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,600
because, yeah, Todd helped by 
filling out the application and 

1411
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,319
pushing it through. 
But then Todd was working for 

1412
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:16,040
GRIFS. 
Yeah. 

1413
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,920
So while Tyler thought that he 
had found this escape, for him 

1414
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,600
and Chloe, it was all a setup. 
And that makes it so much 

1415
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,880
better. 
Just walking into a trap with 

1416
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,479
us. 
Murphy took a sit from his water

1417
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,160
bottle, which let's Strike, who 
is making notes to a new 

1418
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,000
realization that water bottles 
carried around after exercise 

1419
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,399
were an obnoxious affectation. 
So good. 

1420
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,479
That is so funny, Strike, I love
your seething hatred for this 

1421
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:43,720
man. 
Please keep it up. 

1422
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,520
He's so petty about him in his 
head and I love him so much for 

1423
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,120
it. 
And also it's the foreshadowing 

1424
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,479
that we all picked up on right 
away because we were ready for 

1425
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,319
it. 
Oh yeah. 

1426
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,480
So Strike asks Murphy if he has 
any details on the footprint and

1427
01:09:57,480 --> 01:09:59,640
the guy. 
He just gets pissy about them 

1428
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,240
trying to catch the killers and 
never even answers him which is 

1429
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:05,560
rude. 
This interaction is so good 

1430
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,400
because it says that Strike 
matches his Stony glare by 

1431
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,080
saying that finding the killers 
would help them identify the 

1432
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,640
body. 
And Murphy's response is just so

1433
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,040
pompous. 
As you'll realize in a minute, 

1434
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,360
you'd be very ill advised to try
tracking down these particular 

1435
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,080
killers. 
And I'm sure Strike is just 

1436
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,520
shaking in his boots now, 
Murphy. 

1437
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,360
Yeah, like that's going to do 
anything aside from peak the 

1438
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,680
hell out of Strike's interests. 
Oh my God, I know. 

1439
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,720
Strike asks if the killers had 
disabled the alarm when they 

1440
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,720
entered the shop, and Murphy 
doesn't know. 

1441
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,760
I love this. 
For me, yeah. 

1442
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:40,360
No, it is more evidence in our 
Murphy's a shit detective 

1443
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,880
actually pile. 
Clearly Iverson is willing to 

1444
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,600
give him all this info and 
detail, but he didn't think to 

1445
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,600
ask any clarifying questions to 
make sure he had the whole. 

1446
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,720
Picture Yeah, it's either that 
he's a bad detective and didn't 

1447
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,480
think to ask, or he doesn't want
to make this case seem any more 

1448
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:58,840
interesting to strike in Robin, 
so he doesn't want to give any 

1449
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,040
additional information that 
might make them want to take the

1450
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,400
case. 
Possibly, yeah. 

1451
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,960
Not that I'm biased or anything,
but I'm leaning towards the shit

1452
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:11,320
detective angle until I see some
strokes of not genius I guess. 

1453
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,480
But we'll settle for competency.
Strokes of competency. 

1454
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,200
I definitely think he was just 
getting like the bare minimum 

1455
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,360
because he doesn't actually want
to do this. 

1456
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:25,360
Robin asks if there's any sign 
of the silver and if he says his

1457
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,080
contact didn't tell him about 
that either, I'm assuming he 

1458
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,920
didn't ask. 
No, of course he didn't. 

1459
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,040
But he has learned from the last
question, so now he's placing 

1460
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,400
the blame on Iverson and not 
himself. 

1461
01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:39,120
Maybe they shoved it in 
backpacks, he says. 

1462
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,760
Were they carrying backpacks? 
Ryan? 

1463
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,520
Do you know how much silver 
there was in the vault? 

1464
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,320
It's proximate weight. 
Literally anything. 

1465
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,240
No, he's so useless and. 
One of them was big. 

1466
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:54,600
Yeah, one of them was enormous. 
A car with fake plates and a 

1467
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,400
lone driver had passed an 
earlier camera. 

1468
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,120
When it passed the next couple 
of cameras, there were two 

1469
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,200
people in it. 
And of course, Iverson didn't 

1470
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,800
say what make it was, and 
fucking Murphy didn't bother. 

1471
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:06,960
Asking. 
Yeah. 

1472
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,400
I mean, I remember an episode we
did a while ago when you first 

1473
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,440
brought up that you thought that
he was a terrible detective. 

1474
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:14,840
And I said I didn't know that we
had the evidence. 

1475
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,120
I think we have the evidence. 
We now have the evidence and 

1476
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,040
Paul's is proven correct once 
again. 

1477
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,680
I just will counter it that I 
also think it's possible that he

1478
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,960
is just not asking because he 
doesn't want. 

1479
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,160
He also doesn't care, yes, but 
that's what makes him a terrible

1480
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,640
detective. 
If he's doing it to try and keep

1481
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,800
them from the case, then yeah, 
maybe it's different. 

1482
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,840
Finally, we get to the Super 
secret sensitive info after he 

1483
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,960
does yet another irritating song
and dance about how super secret

1484
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,800
sensitive it is. 
SSSI. 

1485
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,080
You know, if I was Robin, I 
would be way more insulted and 

1486
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,360
infuriated that my boyfriend, 
who's supposed to respect and 

1487
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,800
admire my skill and my career, 
thinks that my partner and I 

1488
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,160
can't keep a secret when that's 
literally an enormous part of 

1489
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,880
their. 
Well, and her promising over and

1490
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,840
over that they won't, It reminds
me of how she was trying to 

1491
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,640
appease Matthew at the pub in 
Silkworm, which also happens to 

1492
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,640
take place on Strike's birthday.
Yeah, she. 

1493
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,520
Really needs to stop placating 
these men in her life. 

1494
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,200
Unfortunately, the police 
couldn't get a fingerprint ID 

1495
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,640
because Wright's hands were 
missing and Todd had cleaned all

1496
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,000
the fingerprints off all the 
surfaces. 

1497
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,440
How? 
Convenient. 

1498
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,000
So can we? 
And we know he did that because 

1499
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,240
he was in on it and they didn't,
right, Being connected to Tyler.

1500
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,720
Do you know the amount of 
paranoia that I would be living 

1501
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,480
in if I had been the cleaner in 
charge of cleaning up 

1502
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:36,760
fingerprints? 
On so much I would just burn the

1503
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,200
place down. 
I know I would lie awake in bed 

1504
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,520
all night wondering if I had 
forgot a really important place 

1505
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,600
or if Tyler had touched 
something I hadn't did. 

1506
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,440
I could just never be a criminal
because I could never live with 

1507
01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:50,520
that kind of tension. 
Be too much. 

1508
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,640
Forget the guilt and the 
wrongdoing. 

1509
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,560
Yeah, the anxiety. 
The anxiety really killed me 

1510
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,760
alive, yeah. 
Yeah, Griff really got super 

1511
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,960
lucky with this Knowles ambush 
coincidence. 

1512
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,280
Which meant that the police 
totally stopped looking into 

1513
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,640
this murder though. 
Yeah, he did. 

1514
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,200
When they're talking about the 
cleaner, Todd men can clean, 

1515
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,080
I've heard. 
So love this, yeah. 

1516
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,800
Thought that was an urban myth, 
said Strike, acting as though he

1517
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,640
hadn't heard this change. 
Murphy continued. 

1518
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,240
So good. 
I love these two. 

1519
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,000
I love them too, you know? 
Murphy is seething about this 

1520
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,080
because they so obviously share 
connection and a sense of humor.

1521
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,000
Yeah, he's just trying to 
pretend that Strike doesn't 

1522
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,800
exist. 
I know, and it's so cute and I 

1523
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,200
love the joke between them and 
that Murphy got to see it. 

1524
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:34,560
I mean, we find out later that 
Malcolm Truman is a Freemason 

1525
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,480
and I feel like there was a 
brand foot connection here too. 

1526
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,400
There was they were a part of 
the same Winston Churchill. 

1527
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,640
Watch. 
So that was the whole getting 

1528
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,800
him to. 
Do you think that was Truman 

1529
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,560
involved in any of that? 
Well, he would have had to keep 

1530
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,880
the secret because it's not 
murder or treason, right? 

1531
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,280
So. 
Don't like that? 

1532
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,040
Robin wanted to ask Strike what 
he thought, but didn't want to 

1533
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,320
do so in front of Murphy. 
Strike, meanwhile, was musing on

1534
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,000
the fact that the CID man 
clearly didn't want the agency 

1535
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,520
to take this case. 
And even though he'd been averse

1536
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,880
to taking it himself until this 
moment, Strike suddenly wondered

1537
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,080
whether he wasn't being offered 
a spectacular opportunity to 

1538
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,640
drive a wedge between Robin and 
her boyfriend. 

1539
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,960
Murphy is now the third wheel at
his own girlfriend's place. 

1540
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,840
And I really love that for him. 
I love that for us. 

1541
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,280
And now we get Strike with his 
absolute stroke of genius, which

1542
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,200
is to use this case for his real
plans. 

1543
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,400
Yeah, winning Robin. 
Someday, his plans will work. 

1544
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,640
Here's another time where Murphy
did not ask a question and 

1545
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,920
blames it on Iverson. 
But this seems like the one 

1546
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,120
thing he should have done 
because he knows the purpose of 

1547
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:38,840
this case is to find Rupert 
Fleetwood. 

1548
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,920
And when Robin asks if the name 
came up, he again says my source

1549
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,280
only mentioned Powell and Semple
bro Oh. 

1550
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,520
My God, you. 
Know that they're looking for 

1551
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,960
this man. 
You didn't think to mention him 

1552
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,160
at all? 
Again, I don't know if he's just

1553
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,360
really bad at this or if he does
not want to encourage them to 

1554
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:55,360
look. 
I don't know. 

1555
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:56,800
Both. 
Yeah. 

1556
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,200
And now it's time for Murphy to 
start pissing me off again. 

1557
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,680
Oh, he stopped at some point. 
Well. 

1558
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,560
Sometimes I get distracted by 
striking Robin being adorable, 

1559
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,160
but the rage always returns. 
Understandable. 

1560
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:10,680
Right up there with death and 
taxes. 

1561
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,040
You know it's always there. 
All right, what did he do? 

1562
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,720
Crime number one. 
This might be an odd question, 

1563
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,680
said Robin. 
But was anything carved onto the

1564
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,880
body's back? 
How the fuck do you know about 

1565
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,640
that? 
Said Murphy sharply. 

1566
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,600
I saw it online, said Robin, 
nettled by his tone, especially 

1567
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,200
in front of Strike. 
Yeah, if we needed proof that 

1568
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,520
he'd been drinking in this 
scene, here it is. 

1569
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,080
Yeah, Because the pattern that 
unfurls from this book is that 

1570
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,240
when Murphy is drinking, he has 
a temper and he will lash out in

1571
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:43,440
anger at Robin over nothing. 
And doing it in front of strike 

1572
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:46,360
here, he also does it in front 
of Steven later. 

1573
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,400
Yeah. 
So that's concerning that this 

1574
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,360
happens in front of people. 
I mean, it would also be 

1575
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,160
concerning if he only did it in 
secret. 

1576
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:58,120
But doing it in front of two 
large men in Robin's life, it's.

1577
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,360
Oh man. 
It does show that he has no 

1578
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,240
control, yeah. 
So on to crime number two. 

1579
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:06,560
Well, thanks Ryan, said Robin. 
This is so now what? 

1580
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,080
Said Murphy. 
He was looking at Strike rather 

1581
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,040
than Robin. 
Oh, the rage. 

1582
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,840
The rage is coming, Yeah. 
Interrupting talking over Robin 

1583
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,760
twice. 
Exact same thing that Kim's been

1584
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,160
doing to her, by the way. 
Complete lack of respect. 

1585
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,360
Yeah, yeah, good point for 
shushing. 

1586
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,600
Now this. 
It feels kind of like a slap in 

1587
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,720
the face. 
I mean, somebody should slap him

1588
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,240
in the face. 
Hell, I volunteer as tribute. 

1589
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,040
And again, he's looking to 
strike instead of Robin because 

1590
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,040
he doesn't respect that Robin is
a full partner in the agency. 

1591
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,320
Strike isn't the boss. 
They make decisions together. 

1592
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,440
This really enrages me. 
Robin does not get nearly mad at

1593
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:47,000
enough about this in my opinion.
I totally agree, she should be 

1594
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,560
fuming the way that he was at 
her for not watching the game 

1595
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:55,240
with his parents or something. 
The signs of disrespect are much

1596
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,920
more subtle with Murphy than 
they were with Matthew, but they

1597
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,320
are still there and I'm 
surprised that Robin isn't more 

1598
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,080
sensitive to these things 
because of Matthew. 

1599
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,040
Any idea why she's not? 
I mean, too busy concentrating 

1600
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,240
on larger things I expect, but 
once she's juggling A fewer 

1601
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,320
things, I feel like she'll have 
the bandwidth to see and 

1602
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,400
recognize those things and be 
like, no, no. 

1603
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,560
Yeah. 
I feel like her focus with 

1604
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,000
Murphy is on making him think 
that she's super invested and 

1605
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,200
not in love with Strike, so 
she's not noticing. 

1606
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,880
Like, how is he treating me, you
know? 

1607
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,240
Strikes answer to Murphy's What 
Now question. 

1608
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,240
I think was done brilliantly by 
strike though, because it almost

1609
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,920
sets it up, like he was about to
give Murphy what he wanted and 

1610
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,400
then bam, he takes it away. 
So he says we wanted to find out

1611
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,560
whether the Met had a definite 
ID, said Strike. 

1612
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,880
And now we know they don't. 
Just so good. 

1613
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,760
And then the cherry on top of 
that is when he says that he and

1614
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,800
Robin are going to have to 
discuss whether or not they'll 

1615
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,560
take the case like, you know. 
Cozy to do you. 

1616
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,360
Know that just pissed him off so
much and I love that. 

1617
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,120
But seriously, you have one man 
who's snapping at you and you 

1618
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,680
know, not wanting you to do your
job, wanting you to freeze your 

1619
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,800
eggs when you don't. 
He's clearly giving strike as 

1620
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,720
the man more credit slash blame 
than he gives you. 

1621
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,320
And then you have another man 
who actually sees her as his 

1622
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,920
total equal. 
Who brings her a nice bottle of 

1623
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,360
wine? 
Shows up on time. 

1624
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:20,480
Amazingly, He really is on his 
best behavior in this scene. 

1625
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,680
I love that even though he's on 
his best behavior, Robin knows 

1626
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,080
when he's being fake. 
It's so good. 

1627
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,000
Yep. 
It is, but yeah, I think we can 

1628
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,880
definitely declare Strike as the
winner of this dinner. 

1629
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,240
Let Robin watch Murphy getting 
aggressive and trying to dictate

1630
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,920
what the agency investigated. 
Yeah, of. 

1631
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,040
Course, he's the winner. 
He was the winner with the 

1632
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,800
dinner at Matthew. 
He's the winner here. 

1633
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,400
He's always the winner. 
Winner Winner Gracie meat and 

1634
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:46,600
cheese dinner. 
Yeah. 

1635
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,920
But today, of all the things 
that Murphy could do to piss 

1636
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,720
Robin off, getting aggressive 
and trying to interfere with her

1637
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,600
work is pretty much the worst. 
You know Strike knows his future

1638
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,760
wife very well. 
He knows this is going to go 

1639
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,160
over like a lead balloon with 
her. 

1640
01:19:59,480 --> 01:20:01,200
Strike could give Murphy some 
tips. 

1641
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,320
I know he wouldn't. 
You know, it'd be funny to see 

1642
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,600
him say, trust me, don't try to 
tell her not to work. 

1643
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:06,600
Don't do it. 
I've tried. 

1644
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,800
Don't do it. 
Not go down this road, man. 

1645
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,200
It's not going to end well for 
you. 

1646
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,880
Yeah. 
By which I mean, please, by all 

1647
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,040
means, go down this road. 
I want to see how it ends for 

1648
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,120
you. 
I like at the end. 

1649
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,480
It is endearing. 
Yes, I know I'm going to say it.

1650
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:20,840
But it that Robin is surprised 
when Strike goes to leave. 

1651
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,080
She says there's still pizza and
pudding, as if Strike wants to 

1652
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,400
hang out with her and Murphy, 
you know, and, or that she wants

1653
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:28,840
to stay in the awkward word 
environment. 

1654
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,600
It's just funny to me. 
She is just very shocked that he

1655
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,840
didn't want pudding. 
Maybe. 

1656
01:20:33,480 --> 01:20:35,040
That's true. 
Or more dessert. 

1657
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,240
Sorry. 
You don't want dessert? 

1658
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,640
Strike. 
Who are you? 

1659
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,520
That could be true. 
I'm meeting Bijou, said Strike, 

1660
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,720
looking Robin straight in the 
eye, though she'd have given 

1661
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,640
anything not to. 
Robin felt herself turn red. 

1662
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,480
Thanks, though, Strike added, 
looking down at the clearly 

1663
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:57,560
fuming, fuming Murphy. 
This has been extremely helpful.

1664
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,520
Extremely helpful indeed. 
And not because of the quality 

1665
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,080
of your Intel regarding the 
murder, Ryan, because you were 

1666
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,800
fucking useless there. 
No, this dinner was extremely 

1667
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,480
helpful to Strikes. 
A real plan of the important 

1668
01:21:11,480 --> 01:21:14,640
stuff, because Murphy has 
succeeded in pissing Robin off 

1669
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,000
and inspiring Strike to start 
drawing up battle plans with his

1670
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,760
new strategy. 
As dinner parties for these two 

1671
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,400
go, this one wasn't bad. 
Yeah, and I also noticed you 

1672
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,880
pointed out the that he's 
looking down at Murphy in the 

1673
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,040
next chapter. 
He looks down at Robin, but 

1674
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,800
they're very different here. 
He's looking down at Murphy, 

1675
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,200
literally. 
He is being placed above Murphy.

1676
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,440
He is a superior man in this 
chapter. 

1677
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,160
And don't even start with a bit 
about Bijou because I got 

1678
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:41,960
strike. 
You're such a cheeky fucker. 

1679
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,680
I know I love him. 
Wow, I can't tell you how good 

1680
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,560
it is that he's looking her 
right in the eye. 

1681
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,680
I almost feel like I'm going to 
turn red like Robin reading it. 

1682
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,320
Like right? 
It's cheeky, it's sexy, so. 

1683
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,560
Good. 
Now I want him to make eye 

1684
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,760
contact like this with her but 
saying other things. 

1685
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,800
OK, all right, well, you know, 
she was up all night thinking 

1686
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,440
about that. 
You got all right. 

1687
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:06,280
Chapter 13. 13. 
Strike and Robin agreed to take 

1688
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,840
the case in this chapter. 
And then the epigraph, and then 

1689
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,920
the sudden slights, long 
secrecies, the plots, 

1690
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,080
inscrutable deep telegraphs, 
long planned chance meetings, 

1691
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,520
hazards of a look. 
Does she know? 

1692
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,920
Does she not know? 
And that is from In a Balcony by

1693
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,240
Robert Browning. 
I mean, my biggest thought is 

1694
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,640
just major swoon. 
Does she know? 

1695
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:32,280
Does she not know It's so good? 
So good, the actual poem lost me

1696
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,840
about halfway through. 
OK, really long and confusing. 

1697
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,640
So I will just also swoon. 
Yeah, but also long planned 

1698
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:39,960
chance meetings. 
Strike. 

1699
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,040
This is a meeting that he 
planned. 

1700
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,040
Yeah, right. 
He took over hazards of a look. 

1701
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,080
Oh, come on. 
His plots and squads. 

1702
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,920
He's plotting long secrets. 
Come on. 

1703
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:51,680
It's great. 
It's the longest. 

1704
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,000
Secrecy between the two of them.
I know I just, but I love this 

1705
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,160
chapter so much. 
The hope that this chapter gave 

1706
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,440
me. 
It was a glorious thing to be 

1707
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,560
given hope when all that seemed 
lost, you know? 

1708
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,120
It really was so exciting to 
read Strike putting a plan in 

1709
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:10,000
motion, you know, Robin choosing
Strike in the case against 

1710
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,080
Murphy and Strike making solid 
progress on operation. 

1711
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,120
Tell her the truth. 
It's all really good stuff and I

1712
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,720
feel like we should have known 
that this promising start was 

1713
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,560
going to lead to pain for. 
US one day it won't. 

1714
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,560
Strike is in his his mastermind 
era in this book. 

1715
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,880
Or he's attempting to be. 
Yeah, up until the very end. 

1716
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,760
Then he's just saying, you know,
fuck it, this is how I get the 

1717
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,080
girl. 
Yeah, it is. 

1718
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,000
Yeah, he, I mean, he wants to be
her end game. 

1719
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,920
Wants to be her end. 
Game, he's saying. 

1720
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,040
Don't blame me. 
Don't blame me, his love make 

1721
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,640
him crazy. 
Don't be a mad woman, but Long 

1722
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:46,120
story short, this London boy 
wants to be your lover and it 

1723
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,080
isn't a hoax. 
It's not a hoax. 

1724
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:52,720
How many did I get it there 
123-4567? 

1725
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,120
But. 
You can go to hell for getting a

1726
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,640
London boy stuck in my head. 
Sorry, sorry. 

1727
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,600
I apologize. 
We don't listen to that song 

1728
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,880
anymore. 
That's really rude. 

1729
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,880
It was. 
Terrible like people are calling

1730
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,800
the lyrics then showgirl cringe.
I'm sorry, did you not listen to

1731
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:15,320
London Boy guys? 
I still like I like singing. 

1732
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,840
Take me back to Huggy. 
Met all of his best mates 

1733
01:24:19,480 --> 01:24:23,120
anyway. 
I tried to find a captain, I 

1734
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:27,640
tried to find a picture of the 
street that Robin is on because 

1735
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:28,920
it says it's one of those 
streets. 

1736
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,560
It's all lit up for Christmas. 
It's such a dream to visit 

1737
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,160
London at Christmas time. 
I might freeze in any 

1738
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,720
temperature below 60 so it would
be a struggle. 

1739
01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:43,760
But I googled what 60 was in 
Celsius and I'm dying because 

1740
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,360
15° is lovely teacher weather. 
Oh my God. 

1741
01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:51,120
Beautiful weather. 
When I wrote these notes it was 

1742
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:55,480
28°F and it was pleasantly 
crisp. 

1743
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,080
It was quite nice actually. 
Yeah. 

1744
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,160
No. 
Am I like Jacket? 

1745
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,280
On no, I'm with Lindsay, 
anything under 60 is certainly 

1746
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,160
get a bit chilly. 
But I'm also from the South and 

1747
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,840
I've lived in California for the
past like 10 plus years. 

1748
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,040
Yeah, but I guess Canadians are 
just y'all are built different. 

1749
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,120
I literally don't think I've 
ever experienced a temperature 

1750
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,800
that cold on, honestly. 
But you know, we could flip this

1751
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,440
because what's your heat 
tolerance? 

1752
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,520
You know, what would you say is 
too hot? 

1753
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,240
For me, like anything above 30°.
Which is. 

1754
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,800
Which is 86 Oh my. 
God. 

1755
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,160
OK, but there are maybe to like 
heat more than me. 

1756
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,600
I just really don't. 
Like being warm. 

1757
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,160
Yeah, we I like we could never 
participate in an episode of 

1758
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,680
Wyatt Swap because we both just 
die. 86 is nothing. 

1759
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,360
We die putting aside to 
temperatures. 

1760
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,080
Yeah. 
London at Christmas is a dream 

1761
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:44,760
for me too. 
I. 

1762
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,960
Know maybe one day. 
So the next two paragraphs where

1763
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:51,840
Robin is thinking about how she 
had to try very hard not to 

1764
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:56,640
sound angry at Murphy when she, 
yet again I know, had to promise

1765
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:57,840
him that she wouldn't say 
anything. 

1766
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:02,280
She wanted to say that what all 
of this is coming from was that 

1767
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,360
Murphy didn't like Strike, but 
she she didn't say it because 

1768
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,920
she didn't want an argument. 
And I just wish she would have. 

1769
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,480
This is what I meant a couple 
episodes ago when I said that 

1770
01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:14,800
I've never made the choice to 
keep the peace in big situations

1771
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:19,400
because it's not helping anyone,
you know, not wanting an 

1772
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,080
argument about something that 
you need to argue about it. 

1773
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,120
It's not maturity, it's just 
making it harder. 

1774
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,600
Yeah, I feel like Robin's really
worn out rather than thinking 

1775
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,880
she's making a good choice of 
out of maturity. 

1776
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,600
Like, I get that on her. 
Yeah. 

1777
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:37,920
Like I feel that just being too 
tired, you can't be bothered to 

1778
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,320
argue with someone. 
I do not understand. 

1779
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,240
No. 
And I can't. 

1780
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,400
I can't be bothered. 
One, when I know the argument's 

1781
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,080
not going to do anything. 2, 
when I'm just fucking tired. 3, 

1782
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,080
when I don't really, when I'm 
not invested enough in the 

1783
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,680
relationship to make arguing 
worth it. 

1784
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,640
I'm not going to fucking bother.
Like I don't because I'm tired, 

1785
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,040
you know? 
But yeah. 

1786
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,160
I don't like. 
I don't. 

1787
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,080
I can't relate. 
I hear you. 

1788
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:06,120
Thanks, Ken. 
I get that it's not the most 

1789
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,680
perhaps emotionally mature way 
of going about it, but she does 

1790
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,560
also have the evidence of the 
start of Murphy's bad temper 

1791
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,560
too. 
So like, I also can't blame her 

1792
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,720
in that respect for being 
conflict avoidant. 

1793
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,040
I wouldn't want to start an 
argument with somebody that I 

1794
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,200
have a feeling might have a bad 
temper. 

1795
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:22,400
Yeah. 
And when? 

1796
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,320
That might make me want to do it
more so that I have reasons to 

1797
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,200
be like, OK, now get out. 
It's just that it this is a, 

1798
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,480
it's a consistent choice to be 
avoided. 

1799
01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:33,760
It's not just that she's tired 
in this moment, It's a 

1800
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,200
consistent thing that she does. 
That's true. 

1801
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,240
It is. 
She doesn't consistently avoid 

1802
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,200
arguments when she should really
have them, until it all gets too

1803
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,320
far and she blows up and the 
argument's not really 

1804
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,000
constructive anymore. 
Yeah, like with Linda. 

1805
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,520
You know, I was just thinking 
that it's interesting to me 

1806
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,760
because Robin is always the one 
who gets really praised for her 

1807
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,320
emotional maturity over strikes.
But there are times like these. 

1808
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,800
Why are you laughing? 
I'm laughing because I haven't 

1809
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,840
seen anyone do that in a while 
really, except for I guess Joe 

1810
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,400
in that question. 
But no. 

1811
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,920
But I also have not been paying 
attention to what other people 

1812
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,760
have said mostly. 
So, well, I guess I'm just 

1813
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:12,040
thinking about in general over 
the time of being fandom. 

1814
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,200
That's something that I've seen,
yeah. 

1815
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:15,960
But there are times like these 
are. 

1816
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,160
In this book. 
Yeah, where I see that she's 

1817
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,680
lacking in an area that Strike 
is a lot better at, you know? 

1818
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,040
Yeah. 
And also like we've already 

1819
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,240
established, it's just a 
personality thing because this 

1820
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,800
is a this is a hard thing for me
to understand. 

1821
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,560
Yeah. 
Another thing I was trying to 

1822
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:35,600
find just Googling it about the 
street, it mentions the carvings

1823
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,600
over the window that Robin is 
looking at. 

1824
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,800
She's not sure if it's a tree or
a sheaf of corn. 

1825
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,160
To me, I would guess the corn. 
Yeah, I thought it looked like a

1826
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,360
sheaf of wheat, but that could 
also definitely be corn. 

1827
01:28:47,480 --> 01:28:49,760
Yeah, and it's right next to a 
dog. 

1828
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:51,760
I did see the dog. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1829
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,000
And I was trying to look into 
this building to see if there 

1830
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,680
was anything about the designs, 
but all I could find was that 

1831
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:01,120
the architect was someone called
HC Boys Henry Cowl, I think from

1832
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:06,880
Googling Boys Boys in the 
Victorian period, and that 

1833
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,160
there's very little about him or
his buildings out there. 

1834
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,160
You found more than I did, so 
good job. 

1835
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,920
It says possibly she was being 
influenced by the Masonic 

1836
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,040
symbolism she'd been reading up 
on during her tube journey that 

1837
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,320
morning. 
The sheaf of corn she now knew 

1838
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,920
represented bounty and charity 
to Freemasons. 

1839
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,360
So obviously it's going to be 
the corn, because this is a 

1840
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,120
meaningful chapter where Shrike 
and Robin are going to accept 

1841
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,680
this case, the symbolism of the 
sheaf of corn. 

1842
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,200
They're going to get their 
bounty, their reward for their 

1843
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,720
labor on this case in the form 
of justice. 

1844
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,920
And they are providing a 
charity, if you will, loosely, 

1845
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,040
right. 
They do end up doing some work 

1846
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,720
on this case for free toward the
end, right? 

1847
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,880
But also just in the sense of 
helping someone less fortunate, 

1848
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,560
Decima is in a less fortunate 
position right now. 

1849
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,320
A. 
Very vulnerable position. 

1850
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,360
Yeah, exactly. 
I like how there's a bit of 

1851
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,800
irony to this when we move to 
Strike's point of view in a 

1852
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,360
second, because his primary 
motive in this specific case is 

1853
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,840
not at all about helping others.
He's doing it so he can get 

1854
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,680
close to Robin. 
Good for him. 

1855
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,680
He's just much less altruistic 
about this case then like 

1856
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:13,640
Leonora or in offenses. 
And of course, he has no idea 

1857
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,720
about the things they're going 
to uncover. 

1858
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,960
He can be more selfish with this
because the case doesn't seem 

1859
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:20,800
like it has that high of stakes 
to him. 

1860
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,080
It's a matter of a deadbeat 
running off. 

1861
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,960
So there isn't going to be that 
emotional connection. 

1862
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,720
I I don't blame him for like, 
having no level, you know, 

1863
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,480
connection. 
I was so on board with this. 

1864
01:30:31,480 --> 01:30:33,880
Oh me. 
Too, But then Strike surprises 

1865
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,360
Robin by showing up and he does 
this later on too, right with 

1866
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,240
the dinner surveillance with 
Midge. 

1867
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,040
Yeah, he does. 
He's just taking every 

1868
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:44,240
opportunity to see her. 
And next time he does it looking

1869
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:47,480
fine as hell in a suit too, 
which I think is a very good 

1870
01:30:47,480 --> 01:30:49,600
move. 
Sure, I'm just saying it would 

1871
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,880
work on me. 
Yeah, and show up shirtless next

1872
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,360
time. 
That would have a great effect. 

1873
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,960
As well 1/3 time. 
I'm curious if Pat kind of 

1874
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,040
becomes aware of the schedule 
switches and this is another 

1875
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,440
thing that she's like. 
Well if she wasn't during 

1876
01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:03,520
Hallmark man, she definitely 
will be in book 9. 

1877
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,240
Yeah, yeah. 
Wondering if there's some kind 

1878
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,200
of like scheduling magic she can
work that'll push Robin and 

1879
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,480
Strike together and get them in 
the office. 

1880
01:31:11,480 --> 01:31:14,520
At the suit for us, Pat, Yeah. 
Thank you for your service. 

1881
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,480
Pat yes, thank you in advance. 
The subject of whether or not 

1882
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:21,120
they'll take the case comes up, 
and we get the whole glorious 

1883
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:24,520
evil plotting paragraph where 
Strike sees the opportunity to 

1884
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,520
be alone with Robin and to 
undermine Murphy to bring up 

1885
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,440
Charlotte's suicide note again. 
And I'm reading this just 

1886
01:31:30,440 --> 01:31:33,760
hungrily at first thinking yes, 
yes, evil laugh, right? 

1887
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,840
And then what? 
Does this man do the right 

1888
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,000
thing? 
Bastard it. 

1889
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:42,160
Says but said strike, if 
investigating is going to cause 

1890
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,840
trouble between you and Murphy 
will pass. 

1891
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:49,720
I think when it comes to the job
and to proving her commitment to

1892
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:53,280
the job, Strike knows Robin 
very, very well. 

1893
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,000
And there is no world in which 
Robin says, yeah, you know what?

1894
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:00,000
Let's not take this case because
it'll upset my boyfriend. 

1895
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,960
I'm sorry. 
He knew exactly what she would 

1896
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,720
say. 
This was actually pretty 

1897
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,320
perfectly calculated to 
guarantee that she takes the 

1898
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,800
case by setting up. 
The reason not to do so is 

1899
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,120
Murphy. 
You know what I mean? 

1900
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,640
Saying like, oh, do you want to 
protect your relationship at the

1901
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:20,080
expense of work to Robin is like
waving a red flag in a ball. 

1902
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,680
She's going to be like, oh, hell
no, how dare you. 

1903
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,040
I take the case extra hard. 
And it also gets strikes and 

1904
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,000
brownie points for being 
understanding and empathetic. 

1905
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,600
It's masterfully done. 
It's a good. 

1906
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,640
OK, that could be. 
He could also just be doing the 

1907
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,360
right thing. 
I'm not totally sure, but I like

1908
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,000
your idea, it's more fun. 
It is more fun. 

1909
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:43,480
Than this part just Oh my gosh 
the butterflies strike, saying 

1910
01:32:43,480 --> 01:32:46,160
that she hadn't asked about his 
date with Bijou. 

1911
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:51,520
Can I say I love the way it says
he looks down at her when he 

1912
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,440
says this because it's just so 
cute? 

1913
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:55,880
Like is he making sure he can 
see her face? 

1914
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,480
Get some eye contact because 
he's so tall. 

1915
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,320
Yeah, it's that direct eye 
contact. 

1916
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,600
Eye contact, Yeah. 
He's like, oh, let me try not to

1917
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,240
see her face when I say. 
He does not want to miss her 

1918
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:07,880
reaction to that. 
It's important. 

1919
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:11,480
He wants to know, right? 
And so here are a couple of 

1920
01:33:11,480 --> 01:33:13,320
things that Strike is very clear
about. 

1921
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,640
And Robin just later decides to 
ignore them and or forget them. 

1922
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,120
So first of all, Strike says she
makes a far better imaginary 

1923
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:21,680
girlfriend than she did a real 
1. 

1924
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,480
Not he added that she was ever a
girlfriend. 

1925
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,680
What would you call her then? 
Said Robin. 

1926
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,960
A misguided exercise in 
distraction and instant 

1927
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,880
gratification that's cured me of
the practice. 

1928
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,200
Very well said, Strikes. 
So well said. 

1929
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,560
And then she later convinces 
herself that he is still seeing 

1930
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,360
her and starting a family with 
her. 

1931
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,880
It's more of that selective, 
unreliable memory. 

1932
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,440
Something that I am so excited 
for, though, is more of the 

1933
01:33:47,440 --> 01:33:51,960
departure from the usual form of
resolute, tight lipidness about 

1934
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,480
his private life, because 
between being more open and 

1935
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,400
continuing to refuse to date 
anyone else, I feel like that's 

1936
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,640
going to go a long way. 
He should say I'd like to make 

1937
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,200
you my private life. 
I desperately want him to say 

1938
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,400
shit like that. 
I want him to just go full blown

1939
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:07,800
honest. 
Oh my God. 

1940
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:08,720
Nice. 
Yes. 

1941
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,920
When Shrek and Robin talk about 
their individual plans for 

1942
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,560
Christmas and how it's 
impossible to get out of family 

1943
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,400
plans, I wonder if this means 
that their first Christmas 

1944
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,120
together, they're going to spend
it alone. 

1945
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,920
You know, maybe go on a nice 
trip as an excuse. 

1946
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,720
I'm manifesting that for them. 
I feel like it's super possible 

1947
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,760
because we know Strike will jump
at any excuse to avoid family 

1948
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:34,200
Christmas and the thought of 
bringing Strike to face a 

1949
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:38,680
Christmas with Linda it would 
probably make Robin break out in

1950
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,600
a cold sweat. 
A thought of them locked up in 

1951
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:44,320
the house and Linda being if she
and Linda haven't like cleared 

1952
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,040
the air by then. 
I think they would. 

1953
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:47,120
The thought of the. 
Awkward. 

1954
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,480
I think they would have cleared 
the air by then, but I kind of 

1955
01:34:49,480 --> 01:34:52,640
also want to see strike up there
for Christmas. 

1956
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:56,320
I really do as well. 
So last episode I mentioned that

1957
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,360
I had an e-mail that I split up 
from Shira, if you remember. 

1958
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,600
So Strike says, I'm not going to
lie, said Strike, I'm getting 

1959
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,160
interested in that body. 
And Shira says that line gives 

1960
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:11,280
shades of try me and then no. 
Agreed. 

1961
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,120
Yeah. 
And I must admit I'm getting 

1962
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,040
interested in that body too. 
And Shira says, yeah, she is 

1963
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:23,680
Roar and then jumping. 
This is really jumping forward. 

1964
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,680
But when Kim says, you know, how
about that body and she has 

1965
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,080
pictures of the body, Shira says
that it's a parallel to her 

1966
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,520
nudes. 
And then Robin is jealous. 

1967
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,080
I just thought that was really 
funny. 

1968
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,880
You know what? 
This is the kind of humor that 

1969
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,520
this podcast really appreciates.
It's classy crude, Classy crude.

1970
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,240
As we said last year, classy 
crude. 

1971
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:42,560
We love it. 
Yeah. 

1972
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,080
Then so OK, yes, they decide to 
take the case. 

1973
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:49,440
Strike calls Decima, and it says
that Robin felt particularly 

1974
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:53,160
warm toward him, appreciative of
his consideration with regards 

1975
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:57,360
to Murphy, and grateful that 
he'd pass off her lie about BG 

1976
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:01,000
Watkins as a joke. 
Nice work, Strike. 

1977
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,520
Yeah. 
The two partners walked on in 

1978
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,680
silence, Strike thoroughly 
satisfied with his last 10 

1979
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,600
minutes work. 
He just made an excellent start 

1980
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,400
in establishing that he was no 
longer interested in casual 

1981
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,360
affairs by saying what he had 
about BG Watkins and Robin had 

1982
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,320
agreed to the investigation in 
spite of her boyfriend's clear 

1983
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,200
disapproval. 
No matter the risks, no matter 

1984
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,280
the possible fallout, he now 
intended to seize the first 

1985
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,440
auspicious moment to tell her 
what he felt. 

1986
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:31,120
And if no such opportunity 
arose, naturally, he'd engineer 

1987
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:33,520
one. 
There's no pride in having what 

1988
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,440
you never worked for. 
Never let the other trap change 

1989
01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:39,480
your game plan. 
Stick to your own and play to 

1990
01:36:39,480 --> 01:36:41,800
your strengths. 
I almost don't even know what to

1991
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,480
say. 
I was just so so happy when I 

1992
01:36:43,480 --> 01:36:47,000
read this. 
And then the auspicious moment 

1993
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,720
never arrived and struck 
shredded his feelings at her in 

1994
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,000
the stairwell 900 pages later. 
And I love that for us. 

1995
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,320
And we love that for us a lot 
because it was amazing so. 

1996
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,600
You know, there was chance, 
convenience, opportunity, and 

1997
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,360
necessity that he needed to 
factor for it, and in the end it

1998
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,200
ended up just being necessity, 
like Griff's killing tiger in 

1999
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:07,760
the vaults. 
Interesting. 

2000
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:09,720
Good one. 
Hence, yeah. 

2001
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,960
And sometimes when you try to 
plan to make everything perfect,

2002
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,440
it just means putting it off. 
And I think that's a lesson of 

2003
01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:17,760
this book, right? 
You don't need perfection to do 

2004
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,600
the thing that you need to do. 
It doesn't have to be perfect. 

2005
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:22,880
It just has to be real and from 
the heart, right? 

2006
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:24,920
Yeah, OK. 
Thanks. 

2007
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,200
What do? 
You mean it doesn't have to be 

2008
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,760
perfect? 
I don't believe it, it sounds 

2009
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,120
fake. 
No, absolutely. 

2010
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:35,680
Having said that though, I do 
think that Strike was 100% right

2011
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,960
when he avoided it for Rob 
Feelings or because he suspected

2012
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:40,840
that she wasn't doing mentally 
well. 

2013
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,280
Yeah, that was good. 
That is the big exception. 

2014
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,560
Other than that, just speak from
the heart strike and you'll get 

2015
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,600
it. 
Tell her the truth. 

2016
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,000
All right, should we jump to the
partners chat? 

2017
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,080
One thing I really wanted to 
talk about is have you guys seen

2018
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:58,440
the videos of Tom Felton in the 
Cursed Child? 

2019
01:37:58,440 --> 01:38:00,680
Yeah, yeah. 
Oh my God. 

2020
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:04,080
The one where he where he puts 
the wad in front of his face and

2021
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,400
says Scared Potter. 
And I was like, Oh my God, he 

2022
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,600
said the thing. 
He said he did it, He did it. 

2023
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,240
They had to wait so long for all
the cheers. 

2024
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,960
Oh, that was so that made my 
little fangirl heart happy. 

2025
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,120
I saw a little interview bit 
with him and Jason Isaacs. 

2026
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:22,280
It was really sweet. 
Yeah, he really turned out to 

2027
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:23,440
be. 
The good one. 

2028
01:38:23,480 --> 01:38:25,280
'S favorite. 
Yeah, I know, Tom. 

2029
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:26,680
Feldon. 
He's a sweetheart. 

2030
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,400
Him and Neville. 
I forget his name. 

2031
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,960
Matthew Lewis, He was great on 
an episode of Impractical 

2032
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:33,040
Jokers. 
Have you seen? 

2033
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,960
This. 
That was hilarious. 

2034
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,240
He was so funny. 
He was so funny. 

2035
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,680
I love when, because it was a 
universal episode, they were at 

2036
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,120
Harry Potterland, so they 
brought him in. 

2037
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,080
I loved when they made him say 
like, I didn't used to be this 

2038
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:51,640
hot. 
That was so good. 

2039
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:54,480
That was really funny episode. 
I need to rewatch that 'cause I 

2040
01:38:54,480 --> 01:38:57,640
don't remember all of it, but 
that was, yeah, he was great. 

2041
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,880
What else? 
Anything happening in your life,

2042
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:02,440
Lindsay, that you're really 
excited to talk about or? 

2043
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,920
Oh my God. 
OK, so I've seen Wicked 2 times 

2044
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,400
already. 
Wow, now this is the second 

2045
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,480
Wicked movie. 
The second chart too. 

2046
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:16,040
Look at my nails, I have wicked 
cat eye so I got green on one, 

2047
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,640
pink on the other. 
Oh, that's cute. 

2048
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,160
My cousin has the same super 
cute. 

2049
01:39:21,440 --> 01:39:25,560
I still, I feel emotional still.
So yesterday it was the second 

2050
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,400
time I saw it and I went with 
Jack and then my friend 

2051
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,200
Angelica. 
And as we're leaving, Angelica 

2052
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:34,280
just goes and I'm like, I know 
you feel all the emotions. 

2053
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,000
Same. 
Like, yeah, I remember when we 

2054
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,840
first talked about it, every 
first was like, Oh my God. 

2055
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,240
They're like making a wicked 
movie and pulls you like they're

2056
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:43,720
going to ruin it. 
Guess what? 

2057
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:45,840
What they did not. 
Wow, they. 

2058
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,160
Did no such thing. 
That's. 

2059
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,760
Amazing. 
It was amazing. 

2060
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:51,480
It was beautiful. 
It was everything I could have 

2061
01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:54,400
hoped for. 
And I literally cannot stop 

2062
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:58,120
thinking about Jonathan Bailey 
as Fiero because yeah, Oh my 

2063
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,800
God. 
Oh my God, he was so good. 

2064
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,160
I really do like Jonathan Bailey
so. 

2065
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:07,080
He's great in the first one, but
in this one, just the love 

2066
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,800
story, just. 
Oh my God, it was so good. 

2067
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:10,960
It was so good. 
Yeah. 

2068
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:15,240
Just give him and Ariana all the
Oscars because she was, she was 

2069
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:16,960
fantastic. 
Best makeup? 

2070
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,880
Fuck it, give it to Ariana. 
Best technical effects? 

2071
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,640
Jonathan Bailey? 
He affected me. 

2072
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:25,440
Technically all of the Oscars, 
yes. 

2073
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:30,120
Linda goes through it, you know.
She has the day. 

2074
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:33,480
Besides Ron and Hermione, 
Alphaba and Fiera were always an

2075
01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:37,440
OG ship for me. 
And as long as you're mine, I 

2076
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:39,760
text Ken's like a media. 
I think I text you in the 

2077
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:41,400
theater. 
I was like, Oh my God. 

2078
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,760
You did and your. 
Mine was amazing. 

2079
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:45,640
It was amazing. 
I. 

2080
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:47,760
Saw they had like a full on love
scene. 

2081
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,920
I've seen things on TikTok. 
Obviously I haven't seen the 

2082
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,040
movie but I've seen it on 
TikTok. 

2083
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:55,520
They had like a whole sex scene.
As long as your mind is the 

2084
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:59,240
scene. 
Yeah it's PG but I loved it the 

2085
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,120
way they made them kneel in 
front of each other. 

2086
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,200
Not the whole part, but that's 
how they performed the song in 

2087
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,640
the stage play. 
So they they kind of did that 

2088
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,880
twice throughout the scene and 
that was really good. 

2089
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,840
Like a nod to the the stage. 
Oh, nice. 

2090
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,600
But I waited for years to hear 
how that man was going to sing 

2091
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,560
my favorite line from that song 
when Fiero sings, and somehow 

2092
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:23,840
I'm feeling it's up that I fell 
the way he delivered. 

2093
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,960
Oh my God, I've never heard any 
Fiero perform it like that. 

2094
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,360
It was really good. 
That line was everything. 

2095
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,880
I'm just going to say the door, 
the door after for good was it? 

2096
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,360
I mean, I think a lot of us are 
scarred from that door. 

2097
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,640
That was the part where I really
had to blink back the tears 

2098
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,120
because, you know, I'm not a 
crier. 

2099
01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:44,800
Oh wow, so even though I'm not 
invested, I'll probably be a 

2100
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:46,800
mess because I love crying about
the movies. 

2101
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,160
Yeah, I just want to hug 
everyone who made the movie 

2102
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,760
because you know when you love 
something so much and then 

2103
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,280
they're going to make it into a 
thing and you want them to do it

2104
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,560
justice and care. 
Yeah, they did it. 

2105
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:58,960
They did it well from what I've 
seen of the press tour you could

2106
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,480
probably get a hug out of. 
I bet I could. 

2107
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:05,640
Ariana and Cynthia for sure. 
I bet I could, yeah. 

2108
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,520
Oh well, good. 
I'm so glad it was good for you.

2109
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,240
I'm I'm glad it was everything 
you'd hoped for. 

2110
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:16,320
Yesterday we had some women next
to us who clearly did not know 

2111
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:20,640
what was going to happen. 
And so for the three big reveals

2112
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:24,120
in the movie, there was lots of 
gasping. 

2113
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,080
And I just really enjoyed that 
because it's it's kind of fun to

2114
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:30,440
experience the shock with 
somebody even though I don't 

2115
01:42:30,440 --> 01:42:32,000
know them, they're just sitting 
next to us. 

2116
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,240
But that was really good. 
Awesome. 

2117
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,400
Yeah, that's great. 
I wish I had something exciting 

2118
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,600
to share. 
Oh, I went to my sister's baby 

2119
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:40,880
shower. 
Yeah. 

2120
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:42,240
How was that? 
How was that? 

2121
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:47,040
Well, it was 678910. 
That was about a 12 hour driving

2122
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,120
in total for two hours of 
shower. 

2123
01:42:49,480 --> 01:42:52,480
Wow, that's a lot of driving, 
but not a lot of shower. 

2124
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,400
The ratio seems off. 
Did you spend the night? 

2125
01:42:55,480 --> 01:42:58,040
With Hal, yeah, we booked a 
well, we booked my like a 2 

2126
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:01,240
bedroom hotel suite. 
So my mom, like, we could have 

2127
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,160
the evening before the shower 
and hang out because we haven't 

2128
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:04,400
seen her in a while. 
Yeah. 

2129
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,280
But by the time we did, we were 
all just so exhausted. 

2130
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,640
We were like, can we let's just 
go to our separate beds and send

2131
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:13,800
Tik Toks to each other? 
As God intended. 

2132
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:18,680
As God intended, as we usually 
do, except in the same location,

2133
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:23,000
much more personal. 
So much more intimate, so much 

2134
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,600
more connection, right? 
Yeah. 

2135
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,360
So it was a lot. 
So we went to the shower. 

2136
01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:31,840
It was nice, giant stack of 
presents. 

2137
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:33,680
So many women there. 
I don't think I've been in a 

2138
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,280
room with that many people since
way before Covad was a small 

2139
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,560
room and a lot of people. 
Was it just women or did you do?

2140
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:41,480
Women. 
I know. 

2141
01:43:41,480 --> 01:43:44,320
It was nice. 
I managed to avoid any kind of 

2142
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,440
game. 
I brought my cookies that I 

2143
01:43:47,440 --> 01:43:49,720
baked. 
Apparently 10 people asked my 

2144
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:51,400
sister where they could get said
cookies. 

2145
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,240
Nice. 
So yeah, we had to leave an hour

2146
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,480
early and drive home 7 hours in 
the first snowstorm of the year.

2147
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,440
I think I sent you guys a video 
of it. 

2148
01:43:58,440 --> 01:43:59,760
Yeah. 
That was insane. 

2149
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,040
Yeah, I had to drive in the rain
all week last week. 

2150
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,360
Oh my God. 
The rain. 

2151
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,320
It rained. 
I had to buy an umbrella. 

2152
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,040
You. 
Didn't already have an umbrella?

2153
01:44:10,440 --> 01:44:13,400
Not really, no. 
Because it doesn't rain enough 

2154
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,600
to ever really need one. 
Yeah. 

2155
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:18,480
But it's like maybe a few months
out of the year. 

2156
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:22,520
Yeah, it did rain enough, and I 
was busy enough to actually have

2157
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:24,840
to go somewhere, so I did buy an
umbrella. 

2158
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:31,200
Yeah, I made Twix cupcakes for 
this thing we had at church. 

2159
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,840
Nice. 
I made two dozen Twix cupcakes 

2160
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,640
and then I tried. 
I decided to try something new 

2161
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:40,680
which I shouldn't have done 
because I got too stressed out. 

2162
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,680
I know, especially if it's 
needed for something. 

2163
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,480
At an event where strangers are 
going to eat it. 

2164
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:50,840
Oh my God. 
I know it was calling to me. 

2165
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:54,400
It seemed Thanksgiving me it was
cherry pie cupcake. 

2166
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,960
I should have stuck with my 
original banana cream pie 

2167
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,040
cupcake because I know that 
that's really good. 

2168
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,160
The cherry, It was OK. 
I'm not a fruit dessert person, 

2169
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,680
so it wasn't my favorite, but 
David really liked it. 

2170
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,040
Other people really liked it. 
Desserts I just don't love 

2171
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:15,040
cherry but like do like a mixed 
Berry pie one. 

2172
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,680
See that's. 
Like a Ruby urban strawberry. 

2173
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,640
Cup, I can't do. 
Cherry's. 

2174
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:23,640
The only thing I can do if we're
talking fruit, well, I could do 

2175
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:27,160
banana. 
Peach in the Berry family. 

2176
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:30,000
Is Cherry a Berry I? 
Think it's like a stone fruit, 

2177
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,400
like apricots. 
In my mind, it's with the 

2178
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,360
berries. 
Yeah, I don't think the berries 

2179
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:39,400
have like pits in the middle, 
which is why I'm thinking it's 

2180
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,200
different, but I genuinely have 
zero clue so. 

2181
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,520
Berry I don't. 
In my head, cherry is the only 

2182
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,640
one I could do at it because I 
can't do strawberries, you know,

2183
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,720
from my trauma from childhood. 
Right. 

2184
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:53,960
Yeah, well, Google says that a 
cherry is not a Berry. 

2185
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,880
Well then, why did they make it 
rhyme? 

2186
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:58,800
Why did they make it rhyme 
Ken's? 

2187
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,480
I couldn't tell you, 
unfortunately I don't have an 

2188
01:46:01,480 --> 01:46:04,440
answer for you, but it but it 
but it is a stone fruit. 

2189
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:09,200
OK, that is the power of 
accumulated knowledge being 

2190
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,880
applied to new situations. 
Well. 

2191
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:15,200
Galaxy brain stuff right there. 
Yeah, incredible. 

2192
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:19,200
They do rhyme, however, and I'm 
curious as to why they rhyme. 

2193
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,120
I think I'm going to make I got 
all the stuff to make Twix again

2194
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:25,960
for Thanksgiving because I only 
got 1 Quick's cupcake and 

2195
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:28,160
they're so good. 
That's just not fair. 

2196
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:32,280
They're just so good and I need 
to perfect my caramel making 

2197
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,800
abilities. 
The same Yeah, I should do more 

2198
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,160
this Christmas. 
I'm gearing up for Christmas at 

2199
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,240
this point. 
We don't our Thanksgiving ages 

2200
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,960
ago, so we're now full on 
thinking about Christmas mode. 

2201
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,800
Nothing to interrupt me. 
My entire house is already 

2202
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,880
decorated for Christmas and has 
been since the beginning of the 

2203
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:49,680
month. 
Nice. 

2204
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,520
As I've always said, 
Thanksgiving is the stepchild of

2205
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,880
the holiday bunch. 
Same. 

2206
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:57,640
I'm like, oh, Thanksgiving is 
here. 

2207
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,720
Yeah, I haven't decorated for 
Christmas yet. 

2208
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:00,520
Me neither. 
Well, what? 

2209
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,120
What are you doing? 
Well one I want the house to be 

2210
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,880
nice and clean first but I just.
I seem to have run out of time 

2211
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:10,280
to get it clean and nice just. 
Maybe that crept up on ya. 

2212
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,080
I understand that knowing. 
I won't do it. 

2213
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,800
Yeah, Yeah. 
But then also, so we when we 

2214
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:19,240
moved up here, we had our big 
like, fake tree, but we had been

2215
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,160
storing it at my father in law's
because we didn't have the 

2216
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:22,440
storage place. 
Forgot to bring it. 

2217
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,480
Oh, no. 
So we've just been getting a 

2218
01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:27,040
real tree every year because I 
kind of was nostalgic and I 

2219
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,920
missed the real trees and the 
scent and the and the 

2220
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,720
everything. 
Such a mess to clean up, but 

2221
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,240
it's lovely. 
I don't want to get a 

2222
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,640
replacement fake tree until we 
move. 

2223
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,760
So real tree it is, but I'm not 
putting up a real tree. 

2224
01:47:41,440 --> 01:47:43,680
Right, you can't, because you 
can't. 

2225
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,680
Because it dries out and I feel 
bad about it. 

2226
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,600
And you feel bad for the tree I.
Feel bad for the tree because I 

2227
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:53,760
forget to water it. 
I'm surprised that you you and 

2228
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,800
your fear. 
It actually does make me nervous

2229
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,200
about being a Firehouse would 
when it gets too dry as well. 

2230
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:02,720
Let me tell you, as a child we 
had a real tree and every single

2231
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,800
night I was terrified. 
I we've managed not to bring the

2232
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:07,600
place down South far. 
That's good. 

2233
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,640
I don't put lit candles in the 
tree like they used to do. 

2234
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,120
Oh my, Can you imagine? 
I. 

2235
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:16,480
Would do that. 
That's not. 

2236
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,840
The Victorians liked to live on 
the edge. 

2237
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:24,320
Yeah, it's a month old dried out
tree. 

2238
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:28,280
Let's put a lit flame on it to 
decorate in our living room. 

2239
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,480
That's fine. 
That's funny you. 

2240
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,120
Mean this is the same thing 
we're doing in the fireplace to 

2241
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:38,040
burn. 
Yeah, I'm not looking forward to

2242
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:42,360
this week at all. 
No, I work in, I work in retail.

2243
01:48:42,440 --> 01:48:43,920
Black Friday, God. 
Yeah. 

2244
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:48,080
But at least you're not. 
I'm not in person but yeah 

2245
01:48:48,480 --> 01:48:51,400
people are still annoying as 
fuck on Black Friday. 

2246
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,720
People are really annoying. 
My friend and I went in to Hobby

2247
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,640
Lobby yesterday and the 
flashbacks I was getting because

2248
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:04,040
it was crazy, it was I just 
thought oh we have 1/2 hour so 

2249
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,080
we need to be at the theater and
it's right next. 

2250
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,600
Door let's go walk around. 
It was crazy. 

2251
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:12,600
Also my mom is having surgery 
tomorrow so that's that's fun. 

2252
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,920
So I'm taking Monday off. 
I think I've told you guys she 

2253
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,200
has like a hole in her heart. 
So they're going to go in like 

2254
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,880
through a artery, like in her 
leg, and then go in there and 

2255
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:23,360
patch it. 
That's crazy. 

2256
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,840
Well, I hope it goes well. 
Yeah, yeah, me too. 

2257
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,120
Me too. 
If everything goes well and 

2258
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,520
there's like no complications or
anything, then she should be 

2259
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,800
home like later in the afternoon
tomorrow. 

2260
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,920
Oh good. 
I just really hope that it goes 

2261
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,680
well because like, she's had a 
couple of like, small strokes 

2262
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:43,600
because of all of the stuff. 
So I'm hoping that, yeah, she'll

2263
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:45,080
feel better. 
I hope so. 

2264
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,600
Well, fingers crossed. 
I also have better news and 

2265
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,680
that's less depressing. 
Also, sure. 

2266
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,440
I feel like next year is just 
going to be like the year of 

2267
01:49:54,440 --> 01:49:57,440
concerts for me. 
I've got a good start, so I'm 

2268
01:49:57,440 --> 01:50:01,520
going to see Cardi B because 
she's coming to Sacramento and I

2269
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,360
just feel like her show would be
really fun. 

2270
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,720
It's the first time I've ever 
purchased tickets for a show 

2271
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,560
where I'm like, I don't know a 
whole lot of your songs, but I 

2272
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,480
think that you'd fun, Just fun 
just because. 

2273
01:50:11,480 --> 01:50:13,800
Just going off of vibes. 
The second Florence and the 

2274
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:17,200
Machine, which I'm super fucking
excited about. 

2275
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,760
I have cleaved to that new 
album. 

2276
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,720
I love it. 
Oh my God. 

2277
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:25,560
That'll be super fun. 
So jealous the new album is. 

2278
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,120
There's so many Robin songs on 
there. 

2279
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,160
There are felt like there was 
some serious Robin songs that 

2280
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:33,760
she needs to hear. 
I wish I could send them from 

2281
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:34,760
the future to. 
Her in the. 

2282
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,880
Future I'm like, let me send 
this album back to her. 

2283
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:41,280
She needs to hear it. 
But then the last one, I'm gonna

2284
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:45,000
go see Olivia Dean, and that I'm
super, super excited about. 

2285
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:46,720
Well. 
Some at work told me she was 

2286
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,760
good, but I haven't listened to 
anything by her. 

2287
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,920
Who's Olivia Dean? 
She is a British singer. 

2288
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:55,320
She's kind of sounds like a 
mixture of like Adele and Amy 

2289
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:59,800
Winehouse ish. 
It's like R&B, jazz inspired 

2290
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:01,520
pop. 
OK, OK. 

2291
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:05,120
I really want to go and see Ed 
Sheeran with my mom because my 

2292
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:08,400
mom has wanted to see him for a 
really long time, Yeah, so I'm 

2293
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,520
hoping that I can give that to 
her for Christmas. 

2294
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:12,760
Fingers crossed, that would be 
lovely. 

2295
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,760
Yeah, resale tickets are a 
little expensive, but she's 

2296
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,600
worth. 
It I love how I discovered in 

2297
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,360
this Taylor Swift press tour 
that Ed Sheeran doesn't have a 

2298
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,560
cell phone, that it's just 
impossible to get a hold of Ed 

2299
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:26,640
Sheeran unless he was like, 
yeah, emailed him and I'm like, 

2300
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,280
he is living the life. 
She didn't text Ed Sheeran that 

2301
01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:32,400
she got engaged because he 
doesn't have a cell phone. 

2302
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,440
And and that's so. 
Crazy he's got assigned iPad. 

2303
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:38,400
Instagram or something? 
Yeah, that's a really funny fact

2304
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:41,000
that makes me like Ed Sheeran a 
bit better, knowing he's so 

2305
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,800
difficult in such just a stupid 
annoying way. 

2306
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:46,160
But that's. 
Like, pretty annoying. 

2307
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,640
His mental health's got to be 
much better without a cell 

2308
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,040
phone. 
I know mine would be. 

2309
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:52,680
I don't think I think mine would
be. 

2310
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:55,640
I would get a lot more done. 
I would get less done because 

2311
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:59,720
how would I I need podcasts to? 
True, I would have to find a 

2312
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:03,240
solution for the podcast with. 
No, I got to listen to the 

2313
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:08,120
exorcist files while I clean. 
It's time for you to like, 

2314
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:12,200
download those episodes and RIP 
them to ACD and then put them in

2315
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,120
a stereo you guys don't 
understand. 

2316
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:18,360
In order to clean I need murder 
or demons in my ears, OK? 

2317
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:20,080
Murder or demons? 
It's. 

2318
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:23,240
One of the two. 
That makes sense for cleaning. 

2319
01:52:23,440 --> 01:52:26,400
Yeah, it's the only way I can 
get through my housework. 

2320
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:29,360
I haven't found that secret 
listening to that will reliably 

2321
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:30,800
get me through all my housework 
so. 

2322
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:35,160
And I feel like, you know, I can
always tell if an episode is 

2323
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,760
really good because of how much 
I'm getting done without really 

2324
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,680
thinking about it. 
If I'm distracted and I'm kind 

2325
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:45,040
of not doing a good job, then 
I'm like, OK, this episode is 

2326
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,000
not doing it for me. 
We got to do something else. 

2327
01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:48,040
Yeah. 
OK. 

2328
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,720
Yeah, and I, that's how I judge 
our own episodes. 

2329
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,920
Well, apparently they really 
help people clean and I'm I'm 

2330
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,960
really happy about that. 
When I finish editing, I'll try 

2331
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,120
to listen to it. 
And do some helps work. 

2332
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,480
Good thing I did last time 
because I noticed something that

2333
01:53:01,480 --> 01:53:05,320
I completely didn't edit out. 
I was like, where did that come 

2334
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:06,920
from? 
I was like, I just said 

2335
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:08,120
something. 
I was like, what did I write? 

2336
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,120
But what did I mean by that? 
And you guys were like, you 

2337
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:11,520
meant this. 
I was like, oh thanks for 

2338
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:13,480
explaining my own brain. 
And. 

2339
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:19,920
Then that was left in and it's 
like what I got going to go 

2340
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:20,920
into. 
Bloopers, though, that would 

2341
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:21,480
have. 
Been. 

2342
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:25,680
Yeah, I had to. 
It wasn't as funny as that, but 

2343
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:27,920
I had to go. 
I told Kens I was like, the 

2344
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,520
episode is up there, but don't 
use that one. 

2345
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:32,240
I gotta fix it. 
Right. 

2346
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:34,960
OK. 
All right, what are we doing 

2347
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,440
next time, Kents? 
All right, we are doing chapters

2348
01:53:37,440 --> 01:53:40,360
14 and 15. 
So this is when Robin and Strike

2349
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:42,840
visit Ramsey Silver and they 
discuss what they've learned. 

2350
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:44,040
Nice. 
Awesome. 

2351
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,640
That'll do it for this episode. 
Thank you so much for listening.

2352
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,120
If you enjoy what you've heard, 
don't forget to follow us on 

2353
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:53,000
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2354
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:56,400
Tumblr at the SE Files pod. 
You can also contact us on our 

2355
01:53:56,400 --> 01:54:00,640
website at the SE Files pod.com 
or e-mail us directly at 

2356
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:04,160
scfilespodcast@gmail.com. 
Thank you so much again for 

2357
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,240
listening and we hope to catch 
you next time for another 

2358
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,480
episode of The Strike and 
Ellicott Files.