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Hi everyone, and welcome back to
the Strike and Ellicott Files, 

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an unofficial podcast dedicated 
to all things Strike and Robin 

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as written by Robert Galbraith, 
AKA the endlessly talented JK 

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Rowling. 
My name is Kenz. 

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I'm Lindsay. 
And I'm pools. 

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And today we'll be continuing 
our reread of the Hallmarked 

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Man, covering chapters 27 and 
28, which takes us from Robin 

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and Murphy looking at a House 
through Strikes interview with 

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Jim Todd. 
Please be aware, as always, that

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our discussion of Hallmarked Man
will often reference the ending 

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of this book as well as the 
previous books in the series. 

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But before we get into the set 
of chapters, we have news to get

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into. 
And today I think it's pretty 

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much only running grave TV news.
Yeah. 

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Joe's been quiet. 
She has been, she's been hard at

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work. 
Hopefully. 

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She better be. 
I say hopefully pools in the 

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silent. 
Creepy whisper. 

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She better be. 
Or what? 

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Or nothing. 
I will continue to love and read

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everything. 
What are you going to do? 

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Literally nothing. 
But yeah, we had a lot of minor 

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parts that we've gotten worried 
about for casting, which is 

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exciting. 
The first one is one that I'm 

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really excited about. 
It's Nick Cavalieri. 

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That is a great. 
Name. 

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Yeah, honestly a great name. 
And he's going to be playing 

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Fergus Robertson, which is very.
Good. 

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I'm excited to see him, 
especially after being so mad at

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Culpepper. 
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Absolutely, and I feel like they
really nailed the casting with 

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this one, so I hope it means 
that he'll be back to the 

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filming of Hallmark's Man in a 
couple of years. 

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Oh yes. 
OK, moving on to the next person

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though, we have Emily Casey as 
Doctor Zhu's receptionist. 

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So going off of this casting, I 
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to see those scenes with Tasha 
and Lynn after she leaves 

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Chapman Farm. 
So that should be exciting. 

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Oh, OK, yeah, that would be 
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Because we're never actually 
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about. 
It oh gosh, Tasha stresses me 

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out in those bits. 
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The next one is a little bit of 
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Paris Nash and his role is just 
described as hooligan, hooligan,

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hooligan. 
Nice. 

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This made me laugh. 
I'm wondering if this guy's 

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involved in some scenes like 
showing people protesting UHC or

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something like that. 
That's not hooligan behavior. 

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Protester could be. 
I mean that could. 

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Well, yeah, if the protester is 
also a hooligan. 

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Sometimes protesters are 
hooligans, the more we say it. 

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Hooligan. 
I'm going to do an impression of

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an owl casting the running 
grave. 

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Hooligan. 
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All right. 
The next one is Adam Locksley, 

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and it's his role is described 
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OK. 
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to be a few news reports that we
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Plus seeing that there's the 
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Strike and Robin after Chapman 
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Yes, God, I hope we get that 
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Oh yeah, that looks good. 
And we have another couple ones 

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here. 
We have Ashley Mann as a driving

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double that is in fact a man. 
By the way, that's a man named 

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Ashley. 
You have to make this second 

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name clarification. 
It's it's not a coincidence. 

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Yeah. 
I'm going to go out on a limb 

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and assume that this is Tom's 
driving double because of the 

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likeness with the hair and the 
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he certainly couldn't be 
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But I hope that this means that 
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and maybe the shooting scene 
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out. 
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they made strike the one driving
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It's really important to me that
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This hair driving I. 
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You know you'll see. 
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they could use strikes driving 
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from Chapman Farm. 
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Maybe they'll add a bit of a 
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right? 
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yeah. 
Yeah, that would be fun. 

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I could see that. 
Last person Laura Mobilia as a 

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puppeteer. 
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caused the most chatter and 
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Reddit out of everything that 
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because we technically don't see
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Grave book. 
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What do you mean? 
Minor minor, minor scandal. 

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So somebody was posting about 
how it seems that every role has

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been cast except for Bijou with 
a screenshot of the post that I 

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made about the puppeteer thing 
and one of the comments said 

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weird. 
Isn't TSF a podcast that just 

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obsesses about the books? 
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puppeteer would cause confusion 
as to who and they don't clear 

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anything? 
What? 

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What would we know? 
We we don't know anything. 

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Yeah, that's. 
Just what it says on this 

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exactly exactly. 
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that, you know, what we reported
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on this person's acting CV 
Wasn't anything that we made-up.

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That's half the fun, honestly, 
of getting these casting updates

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is guessing the context for 
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recognizable. 
We're just getting the same news

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as everyone else. 
Exactly. 

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We're just making sure to share.
Whatever. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
I have no idea. 

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But yeah, there are. 
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things that this whole puppeteer
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leaning towards is using puppets
while Robbins at the UHC to 

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introduce the concepts of the 
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That's what I thought, yeah. 
If you've ever watched the 

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beginning of Disney's Hunchback 
of Notre Dame, that's similar to

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what I'm thinking. 
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for this as far as like the 
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be really neat, artistically 
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I have not seen it, but I do 
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can imagine it or something like
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It's kind of what I assumed 
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manifestations. 
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that's just immediately what I 
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When Robin is, they go on that 
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In Norwich. 
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like a toy store with little? 
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Little puppet. 
Show puppet show in the store or

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something. 
I could see that. 

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Yeah, I'm imagining like Sound 
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I love that scene. 
You know, yeah, but way worse 

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than that. 
That scene is great. 

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No, I know, but a UHC version 
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Would be very creepy and 
horrible, yes. 

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Yeah, so something like that, 
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going to be hard to watch. 
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they have a puppeteer. 
I just think it could be, it 

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could be kind of cool. 
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Hoping they go for really scary 
spooky. 

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Vibe like I know. 
I want it to be a horror show. 

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My cousin and I were at 
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on Haunted Mansion. 
She said how did I get the 

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ghosts to work? 
I was like oh it's called the 

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Pepper ghost. 
It's I'll explain later. 

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She's like, how do you know 
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Oh, from Strike? 
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He just rolls her eyes. 
How do you know anything? 

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It's. 
Almost. 

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Right. 
Yeah, Chapter 27. 

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All right, in this chapter, 
Robin and Murphy look at a 

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house. 
Yeah, yeah, that's what Robin 

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thinks too. 
We're all on the same page. 

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There are so many chapters of 
Strike and Robin go look at a 

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crime scene and they're like 
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of a house and like this house 
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Murphy's there. 
It's the scene of a crime. 

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It is the scene of a crime, a 
crime against me. 

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Yeah. 
Yes, and also strike. 

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It's a crime against our hearts.
Yep, against. 

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Reason, logic, love. 
It's a crime against love. 

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It's. 
A crime against love? 

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That's the title of this 
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Yeah, we nailed it. 
All right, we can go home. 

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OK, I think we're done here. 
I am home, right? 

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Yep, we're done here. 
Oh yeah, we are. 

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Nailed it. 
The epigraph for this chapter. 

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The only difficulty was to 
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to do and how. 
And that is from chapter 37 of A

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Maid of the Silver Sea by Jon 
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I feel like this is sort of an 
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The only difficulty was how to 
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Basically everything about it is
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to do this thing I'm pretending 
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don't want to do it is because 
I'm doing this thing with the 

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wrong person. 
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The only. 
Difficulty. 

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Is everything. 
Everything. 

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But also just one thing. 
Really. 

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Yeah. 
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One, yeah, that makes sense to 
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And then also you've got a phone
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over like the various things 
they're going to into which is 

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like an early stages of 
investigation. 

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This feels like an early stage 
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Only difficulty is. 
Everything. 

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Yes, going into the chapter I 
know I have no right to feel 

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resentful, but anytime Robin 
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wakes up in hers. 
Betrayal. 

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Yeah, it's disgusting. 
It's disgusting to witness. 

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I feel personally betrayed. 
Personally, it's a hate crime 

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against Lindsay's everywhere. 
It's it's a hate crime. 

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I I feel so betrayed personally.
Feel personally victimized by 

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Robin waking up in his bed. 
Disgusting. 

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No one wants. 
To see it, I think they that all

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of us in strike are on the same 
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Yeah, the fact that. 
She's waking up in his bed, in 

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his flat. 
Disgusting. 

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If we started to petition Robin 
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think Strike would sign it. 
He'd be at the top of the list. 

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He'd be out there personally 
making sure that people signed 

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it. 
I remember reading it and I just

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go. 
What? 

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Why dare she? 
Why? 

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Come on, Robin. 
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she spent most of the night 
being her favorite little 

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workaholic, alone on the couch 
instead of, you know, snuggling 

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up with him. 
So Silver Linings. 

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I bet they didn't have sex 
either if she's staying up 

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checking her. 
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Yes, that's very true. 
I was pleased about that. 

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She's not running her hands 
through Murphy's chest here, not

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that he has any. 
Yeah, still don't get that image

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in my mind. 
Guys. 

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I hate that. 
I think it's safe to assume that

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Murphy's a heavy sleeper, or at 
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when she came to bed that night 
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I just feel like he'd be annoyed
if he knew that she stayed up 

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till 2:00 AM working. 
He'd be so annoyed. 

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He'd be so annoyed. 
So 100% he's a heavy sleeper 

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which I don't get. 
I personally am. 

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I'm a super light sleeper unless
I've had a couple drinks. 

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That'll do it. 
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alcohol tends to produce a 
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OK. 
Am I saying that Murphy was 

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drinking last night? 
I'm not not saying it, but if 

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Robin didn't wake him up at 2:00
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Yeah. 
Just something to think on. 

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When I said that I think that 
Murphy would be annoyed that 

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Robin was working right, I think
that the little details show us 

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that. 
So I don't want to say that 

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Robin is. 
I don't want to use the word 

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trained. 
Now for a human. 

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It maybe it comes from Matthew, 
but the fact that she knows that

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she shouldn't say that she's 
tired the next day, I don't 

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know, Maybe that's too harsh, 
but she doesn't want to say that

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she's tired. 
Do you know what I mean? 

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No I totally agree because The 
thing is I feel like she would 

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get some criticism from Murphy 
if he realized she was tired for

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the little house hunt because 
she'd stayed up working. 

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Or at least like a huffy mood 
from him. 

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Yeah, it. 
Seems to me that while Murphy 

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might be. 
You said, and that made me 

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laugh. 
Sorry, it seems to me that while

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Murphy might be theoretically OK
with her job in general, he's 

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like, Oh yeah, hot female 
detective, that's cool, I'm OK 

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with that. 
Minus the strike portion of her 

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job, which he's not at all OK 
with. 

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He still doesn't want it to be 
more important than him to her. 

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He's not OK with how important 
it is to her. 

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He's not OK with the vocation of
it that the obsessive workaholic

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nature. 
Yeah, that's a good assessment, 

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OK with it. 
But he wants to be more 

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important. 
Yeah, whereas Matthew wasn't 

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even OK with the general 
detective idea. 

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Had up there with astronauts and
lion tamers, she's. 

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Moving in the right direction. 
In the right direction, she 

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needs to keep going. 
Yeah. 

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A little bit further. 
I have some bad news for Murphy,

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though. 
Womp. 

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Womp. 
Yeah, let's get the unpleasant 

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stuff out of the way first. 
So let's talk about Robin and 

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Murphy's drive to go look at a 
house and Robin's morning in 

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general. 
It is very appropriate that her 

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morning is foggy and cold. 
It feels to me like that's a 

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reflection of what's going on 
inside her head in this whole 

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book because she's unable to see
clearly. 

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She's in a fog and she's cold. 
Like she's not feeling what 

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she's supposed to feel or she's 
trying to convince herself she 

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feels. 
It's kind of feels like Robin 

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throughout this whole book, 
right? 

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Yeah, part of me was like, well,
isn't it always cold? 

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But it's the fog that makes that
so appropriate, because she 

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really can't see clearly in this
book. 

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She is in a. 
Fog, literally totally. 

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I guess it is in the middle of 
December for them, so it makes 

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sense that it's cold and it's a 
damn cold if it's foggy, which 

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the coldest kind? 
Plus, it's England, you know, 

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part of the territory, isn't it?
I. 

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Think their temperature is 
generally quite lovely relative 

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to mine. 
I can't relate. 

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Yeah, I'm so a little salty 
about you sending gorgeous sunny

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photos deliberately knowing that
I'm in the middle of freezing 

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rain Nightmare. 
I'm not on purpose taunting me 

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like your lemon tree. 
It's I'm in miserable heat right

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now. 
I feel like 90 is is happy for 

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you. 90 is miserable. 
OK, it's already miserable. 

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That would be miserable for me 
and not boating well. 

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It's like 34 in Celsius, that's 
too hot. 

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We're going to the beach next 
week which will be lovely. 

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OK, well let's hope you come 
across a handsome Harry Murr 

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man. 
Oh yeah. 

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Mer Daddy. 
'S crossed for Mer daddy, 

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Fingers crossed, fins crossed. 
I don't know. 

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But this weather, and it's 
Robin's mental state, it just 

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feels like a bit of a hint of 
what's going to come later, when

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Robin starts wishing she could 
just run away somewhere sunny 

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and warm. 
She's hoping that if she changes

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the weather, it'll force the 
change of her mood and her mind 

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to match. 
Does not work that way, as she 

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figures out when she goes 
Sardinia, but yeah. 

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It really bothers me that you 
said somewhere sunny and warm 

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instead of somewhere warm and 
sunny. 

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That is weird. 
Why did I say it that way? 

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I don't know, because I just 
need to sing it somewhere warm 

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and sunny on an island that I 
own. 

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Yeah, I literally was. 
I read your note and I was 

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thinking why did she? 
Why did she mess up the line 

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find? 
It that way. 

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I know. 
I too would like to be tanned 

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and rested and alone. 
I will never be tanned. 

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I will never be tanned either. 
Never. 

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Man, it really breaks my heart 
to see Robin continuing to have 

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nightmares about Chapman Farm. 
I wonder how much of Doctor 

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Broccoli will deal with Chapman 
Farm? 

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Probably quite a bit. 
Or if we're going to focus a 

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lot. 
On she really does need to focus

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on dumping the boyfriend I. 
Know. 

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If she's going to direct Robin 
to do something, that should be 

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#1 on the To Do List because I 
think it would fix a lot of 

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problems. 
How much do I care about Chapman

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Farm versus that? 
Yeah, because my priority list. 

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Yeah, dump Murphy, get with 
strike. 

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Yeah, deal with trauma. 
Exactly. 

321
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Might be different from Joe. 
'S but one helps the other. 

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It's building upon. 
Building upon Yeah. 

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We'll see. 
Next up, we're going to talk 

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about the Land Rover. 
And it says leaving it there, 

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she'd felt not unlike a pet 
owner waiting to hear whether 

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the vet could save her beloved 
animal. 

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The car's rattle, which she 
still hadn't traced to its 

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source, had grown louder. 
The Land Rover has bronchitis 

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guys RP Land Rover. 
I knew as soon as I read this 

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that the old Land Rover was a 
goner. 

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Yeah, so did I, I have to take 
us back to our conversation pre 

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hallmarked man where we argued 
over the Land Rover versus 

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Roundtree. 
They both died. 

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Both died. 
It's just so funny that Robin 

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herself compares it here to a 
pet. 

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And we were arguing. 
It's so funny. 

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It's. 
Tragic. 

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Tragic for our girl, funny for 
us a little bit. 

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It is funny for us. 
Very funny. 

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I think Robin's more sad about 
the Land Rover than Roundtree, 

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I'm just saying. 
Yeah, yeah, something, something

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else that made me laugh, though,
when I was looking at Murphy's 

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car, a Toyota Avensis again, to 
reequate myself with. 

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What it looked like was a 
description that Google gave me 

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for it, which describes it as 
grown up and sensible rather 

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than exciting. 
It's appropriate, right? 

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That's pretty nice. 
What's a Toyota Avensis look 

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like? 
I don't know, let me do that. 

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Yeah, I feel like both Murphy 
and Strikes Car are pretty 

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representative of them as 
people. 

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Murphy's is boring and 
predictable and and strikes, as 

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you know, exciting, sleek and 
sexy. 

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Although since his car is a 
little older, maybe it's like a 

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metaphorical Noah Wiley, a 
little beaten up a little. 

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Mature. 
Are you calling Noah Wiley 

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beaten up? 
No, no, but the car not no, 

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Wiley, but you know. 
I lost track. 

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I was thinking Toyota Avensis 
and Heart actually kind of looks

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like a pretty practical nice 
car. 

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Yeah, it's very sensible, like. 
Practical, sensible things. 

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Unless your name is Ryan Murphy,
in which Case No. 

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Yeah, because like strike 
happening exciting car, his BMW 

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is old and used. 
But it's still a BMW. 

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I think he thought it wasn't as 
much of A splurge as people 

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might think, or it wasn't like 
that much of A luxury. 

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And at this point, it's battered
with gunshots and everything. 

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I don't think he's driving 
around with the bullet holes. 

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I'm leading up to something 
here. 

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He did have to take it into the 
garage to get fixed. 

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And also Robin is frequently the
one driving it even though it's 

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technically strikes its car. 
So what I'm saying is totally 

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tracks. 
The car's sexy but older, 

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battered, less glamorous and 
people think follows Robin's 

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instructions. 
I'd say that embodies strike 

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pretty well. 
And a Toyota Avensis. 

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Looks like if you googled the 
word car, this is what would pop

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up. 
This is what comes to mind when 

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I think a car. 
So if you googled boyfriend 

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Murphy, you get Murphy. 
Yeah, which is basically why 

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Robin's staying with him. 
With her. 

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I know. 
That's exactly. 

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Yeah. 
That tracks 100%. 

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Oh, dear. 
Robin that. 

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Tracks all the way to the bank. 
Something that I was thinking 

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about is when Robin's a little 
sad about the Land Rover, she 

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gets into Murphy's car and she 
thinks it's snug and warm and it

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might be nice to get a car with 
a working heater. 

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So she likes the idea of heats. 
You know, heat is appealing, but

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it's Strike who provides the 
heat, you know, 'cause he gets 

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her the Land Rover. 
I just, I feel like there's 

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endless symbolism with the Land 
Rover and Strike getting it to 

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explore. 
Probably only a fraction of it 

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00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,280
is going to be close to being 
right. 

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I I really felt Robin here 
because I can personally vouch 

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for how lovely a heated seat is.
Absolutely. 

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I love my booty cheek heaters. 
Would I like trying to be my 

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heated seat? 
Yes, yes I would. 

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OK, I'm not even sure what the 
innuendo is there, but it's 

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something. 
It doesn't matter, it's working 

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for me. 
Yeah. 

401
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You know, I'm thinking about the
cat in trouble blood. 

402
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Oh yeah, that cat knew what was 
up. 

403
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,400
We are all jealous of that cat. 
Oh yeah. 

404
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,960
Oh yeah. 
It's still one of my favorite 

405
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outtakes, which nowadays I would
have left it an episode. 

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But when you when you said it's 
so nice of strike to pet the the

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Kitty and I knew exactly what 
your mind. 

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Was doing it's one. 
Of my favorites. 

409
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,880
Yeah. 
OK. 

410
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,600
So what you're saying is we were
always extra launching, 

411
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ridiculous. 
You just leave more of it in 

412
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,080
now. 
Yes. 

413
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,480
Nice. 
Which is why I'm struggling 

414
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,520
because I have less and less 
outtakes because I just leave it

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00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,200
in now I. 
Have to work harder. 

416
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,040
Yeah, I'll have to say more 
outrageous shit that you just 

417
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cannot leave in. 
I know. 

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00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,720
Take that as a personal 
challenge. 

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00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,360
It is. 
It is a bit of a personal 

420
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challenge. 
I can rise to this. 

421
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,600
There is a Christmas song 
mentioned here and I am not 

422
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familiar with it at all. 
Are either of you or is this a 

423
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,160
UK only song? 
I have heard of it. 

424
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,760
I heard it on Glee once during 
one of their Christies. 

425
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,160
Yeah, on one of their Christmas 
episodes. 

426
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,800
There's so many times where most
music from, I know there's so 

427
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,840
many times where I'm at. 
I'm asking if you guys know a 

428
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song. 
It was ugly. 

429
00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:17,480
Glee. 
Yeah. 

430
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,000
So the song is do they know it's
Christmas? 

431
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,600
And yeah, I've heard that every 
Christmas for like a whole life.

432
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,760
Yeah, it's definitely not auk 
only thing. 

433
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,200
It's not on any of my Christmas 
playlists though, because it's 

434
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like guilting and depressing. 
It's not really my vibe but I 

435
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,120
know it. 
I have. 

436
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,720
I've literally never. 
No, it's Christmas time at all. 

437
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,920
I have literally never heard 
this song in my entire life. 

438
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,360
Kenz. 
Do you? 

439
00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,560
Have you ever heard it play on 
radio stations or anything? 

440
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,480
Very rarely, people tend to play
more on. 

441
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,240
Christmas Radio. 
I've never heard it play, ever. 

442
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,680
I've never heard the song in my 
life. 

443
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,760
Does Canada want to either A be 
the UK or B not be the USC? 

444
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,200
No, we're not the US, don't 
worry. 

445
00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:08,240
I will, I know kind of weird to 
me, like we're on the same block

446
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,960
of land, but we have such 
different experiences. 

447
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,560
I. 
Mean we're part of the 

448
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Commonwealth, so the king is 
technically our king. 

449
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,880
Yeah. 
We didn't, you know, fight a war

450
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,120
against Britain for 
independence. 

451
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:22,000
We just sort of, we did. 
We even get. 

452
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I don't even know, actually. 
I think we just shook hands. 

453
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,040
We're like, let's it's not you, 
it's us. 

454
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,480
Let's just sort of take a break.
What did Canada do during that? 

455
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,840
Time. 
Fucking no. 

456
00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:35,640
Well, we were British during the
Revolutionary War. 

457
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I literally just thought what 
did Canada do during that time 

458
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because it's not in Hamilton so 
I don't know. 

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00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,040
I'd have had to pay more 
attention to my Canadian 

460
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,080
history. 
Class to have. 

461
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,760
It's not in my I mean, we're 
doing American history. 

462
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,480
I feel like we were British, 
like we weren't in Canada yet we

463
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,880
were out like British. 
I don't know actually. 

464
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,800
We're doing American history in 
our homeschool curriculum, but I

465
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,760
haven't really seen anything 
about that. 

466
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560
Interesting. 
I know more U.S. history than I 

467
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,520
do Canadian history. 
Well, because it's in Hamilton. 

468
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,000
I feel like we do have closer, 
more recent ties to the UK than 

469
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,520
the US does. 
Could that be why you know this 

470
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,440
song? 
Don't know, you'd have to pull 

471
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,480
someone from other areas of the 
states. 

472
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,000
Maybe this is just not a 
California thing, you know? 

473
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,080
Maybe the East Coast knows the 
song. 

474
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,160
Maybe. 
Although my grandparents on my 

475
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,000
father's side were English, my 
dad was actually also born in 

476
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,480
England, so like, it was a 
family culture. 

477
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,680
I might be more English than 
most just because of that 

478
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,840
influence. 
I grew up watching Fawlty Towers

479
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,720
and stuff. 
And now I Love Lucy. 

480
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,600
No, I did not watch I Love Lucy 
anyway. 

481
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,840
Yeah, I don't know. 
It's a song I've heard many, 

482
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,840
many times. 
I didn't realize people in the 

483
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,120
States hadn't heard it, or at 
least at least this one. 

484
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,120
I have to do a poll of the rest 
of our American listeners. 

485
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:55,720
I had to do whole research on 
this song. 

486
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:59,200
Oh, what did we find out here? 
Well, it's a charity song 

487
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,760
written in 84 to raise money for
the famine in Ethiopia. 

488
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,200
From what I've read online, it's
pretty controversial because the

489
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,120
lyrics paint all of Africa in a 
negative and stereotypical 

490
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:14,200
image. 
It's a bit paternalistic, a 

491
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,440
little bit. 
It says online that it was 

492
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,080
originally written to be 
uplifting. 

493
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:23,880
I say with a big question mark. 
I'm looking at the lyrics. 

494
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,920
I'm trying to see where the 
uplifting part is. 

495
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,200
Is the uplifting part in the 
room with us? 

496
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,000
I don't think so. 
It's so weird. 

497
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,640
Guilt trips don't generally make
me feel uplifted. 

498
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,280
They say feed the world, let 
them know it's Christmas time. 

499
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,760
They do have calendars in 
Africa, but. 

500
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,400
Feed the World could technically
maybe be uplifting. 

501
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,960
Maybe not really. 
Yeah. 

502
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,760
You also have the lyrics that 
say there's a world outside your

503
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,280
window and it's a world of 
dreaded fear where the only 

504
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,880
water flowing is the bitter 
sting of tears. 

505
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,880
And the Christmas bells that 
ring are the clanging chimes of 

506
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,360
doom. 
Well, tonight, thank God, it's 

507
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,120
them instead of you. 
Na, na, Yeah. 

508
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,720
Thank God it's them instead of 
you. 

509
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,160
Seems like a very sociopathic, 
insane way to remind people to 

510
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,040
be grateful for what they have. 
Maybe. 

511
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,440
That's Imagine writing that 
lyric and thinking, yeah, that's

512
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,520
it, that's it, that's. 
It fucking nailed it. 

513
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,240
No notes extended on. 
I was going to guess that the 

514
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,640
purpose of having this song in 
the chapter. 

515
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,640
Maybe Joe wanted to find the 
most depressing Christmas song 

516
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,560
she could for Robin in this 
moment of the dreaded house 

517
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,600
hunting. 
Which is hilarious because the 

518
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,880
music itself is quite happy. 
It's it's a cheerful sounding 

519
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,200
song. 
Well, that fits nicely though, 

520
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,560
doesn't it? 
It seems cheerful, but it really

521
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,160
isn't, just like Robin in this 
moment in the house hunting. 

522
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,160
Oh, this next part? 
Oh he's so annoying when Strike 

523
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,040
calls initially and Robin asked 
him to call her later to discuss

524
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,680
this news. 
Murphy's response when asking 

525
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,840
what he's not allowed to hear? 
I'm annoyed. 

526
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,080
What am I not allowed to hear my
phone calls? 

527
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,080
Am I not allowed? 
Privacy. 

528
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,200
There's a lot you're not allowed
to hear, Murphy. 

529
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,200
Any minute list. 
To be honest, I felt another 

530
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,120
moment of resentment that her 
phone connects to Murphy's car's

531
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,320
Bluetooth. 
Her phone should connect to 

532
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,840
Strike's car, not Murphy's. 
I don't like it. 

533
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,680
I don't care if it makes no 
sense. 

534
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,880
No, I mean I fully agree. 
Bluetooth connection is way too 

535
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,760
close to married on the 
relationship scale for me to be 

536
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,960
at all comfortable with this. 
It's. 

537
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,160
Not for me to be comfortable. 
It's intimate. 

538
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,600
In my car, my husband's phone is
connected and my cousin's phone 

539
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,200
is connected. 
It's like, yeah, I was going to 

540
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,000
say something else, but you said
my cousin's phone. 

541
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,320
I was like, Oh no, never mind. 
What were you going to say? 

542
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,160
It's something I was going to 
say. 

543
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,240
It's like sex, but over the air.
Like airwaves. 

544
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,120
But it's not. 
Yeah, let's. 

545
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,200
Please not no. 
Maybe she, you know what, Maybe 

546
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,480
she just borrowed Murphy's car 
for something and then didn't 

547
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,800
take off the Bluetooth. 
Sure. 

548
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,680
That's what I'm choosing to 
believe. 

549
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,720
And what does comfort me is my 
imagining that Murphy has 

550
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,920
basically never been in the Land
Rover because that's Robin and 

551
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,080
Strike's special place. 
So she encourages defaulting to 

552
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,360
taking Murphy's car places and 
like placates him by connecting 

553
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:22,960
her Bluetooth to keep her car 
pristine from his taint. 

554
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,720
From his taint. 
From him tainting it with his 

555
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,240
aura, you know. 
Yeah. 

556
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,960
Yeah. 
From his Tate the Murphy taint 

557
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,560
like. 
I'm sorry, I'm a child. 

558
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:45,320
My God. 
I'm sorry. 

559
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,160
I was going to say that we can't
sully their Land Rover with 

560
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,240
memories of Murphy. 
Absolutely not. 

561
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,480
It's striking Robin. 
Special, special place. 

562
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,600
He's not allowed. 
Also, I like imagining that soon

563
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,880
Murphy's going to have to 
disconnect her phone when she 

564
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,240
dumps him, and that is really 
fun for me to think about. 

565
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,240
Right, I'm just imagining him 
angrily jabbing at his car's 

566
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,960
touchscreen now. 
It makes me so happy. 

567
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,320
I'm imagining him not 
disconnecting it and just 

568
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680
sitting there crying, staring at
Robin's phone. 

569
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,640
It needs to be raining outside 
too, yeah? 

570
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,680
Raining. 
Real dramatic. 

571
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:27,440
I like. 
Really kind of busting that 

572
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,480
energy for him. 
So here's my question. 

573
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,000
Do you guys think that it's just
because Murphy's jealous of 

574
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,960
Robin and Strike? 
Or do you think that Murphy 

575
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,800
might also be starting to 
suspect that they're 

576
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,640
investigating more than they say
they are? 

577
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,320
I think he would take any reason
to be mad at Strike, but it 

578
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,320
could be both. 
One of those things he has a 

579
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,920
right to be mad about, the other
he does not. 

580
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,240
Yes. 
I noticed now, though, that 

581
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,000
Robin feels comfortable telling 
Murphy that she's tired when her

582
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,080
tiredness gets her out of 
talking to Strike, and not when 

583
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,240
it might imply that she's not 
hyped to go see houses. 

584
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,680
It's acceptable in one of those 
situations. 

585
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,600
And also, what I think is really
funny is that Robin is worried 

586
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,000
that Strike would say something 
that would upset Murphy about 

587
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,680
the case over Bluetooth. 
Like hey, I just had a guy from 

588
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,960
MI 5 here warning us off and 
investigating when what she 

589
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,600
should really be worried about 
is Strike proposing marriage to 

590
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,000
her in front of her boyfriends. 
That would make for an awkward 

591
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,240
house tour. 
That hand squeeze might really 

592
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,640
different. 
Yeah. 

593
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,520
Oh, it's just, it just really 
made me laugh that, you know. 

594
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,760
That's what she's worried about.
That's what she was worried 

595
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,160
about. 
Yeah, yeah, 'cause you know, 

596
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,760
Strike, if Strike knew he was on
speakerphone, which Robin would 

597
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920
tell him instantly, he'd never 
say that stuff in front of 

598
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,760
Murphy anyways. 
No, of course. 

599
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,400
Not when Robin changes the 
subject to their trip to Mass. 

600
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,880
And for the holidays, it says, 
See, she thought, you're the one

601
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,800
I'm taking home. 
You're the one I'm spending 

602
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Christmas with. 
Gag. 

603
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,000
Pulls now that you said that 
thing earlier about fog. 

604
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720
This line here is so 
interesting. 

605
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,240
It says they drove on through 
the fog and after a while Robin 

606
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,720
initiated a conversation about 
their imminent trip to Massam. 

607
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,160
So they're driving through, and 
Robin is searching through her 

608
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,200
mind, through the fog of her 
mind to try and clear her head, 

609
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,920
to figure herself out, find 
herself. 

610
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,440
But she can't. 
Yes, I feel like she thinks that

611
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,600
this stable relationship with 
the house, hunting, the trips 

612
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,360
back home, will be her lifeline,
the thing she holds on to, to 

613
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,920
like, guide herself back to 
clean air. 

614
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,280
She's wrong. 
It's just more fog. 

615
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,160
It's making the fog worse. 
Because the fog is coming from 

616
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,160
inside the relationship. 
Oh my God, the card's coming 

617
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,000
from inside the relationship. 
Murphy's the Fog Machine. 

618
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Murphy is the foggy prophet. 
Mr. Fogggy Prophet. 

619
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,120
I can only see Froggy Prophet. 
I know that's right. 

620
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,440
That's literally what I'm. 
Thinking. 

621
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,160
Too and then I'm thinking of. 
Kermit the Frog. 

622
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,800
And now I'm just Yeah. 
Also, Robin, don't think I don't

623
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,000
see that you're supposed proof 
of loving Murphy not Strike has 

624
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,360
literally nothing to do with her
actual feelings for either of 

625
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,360
them. 
Nothing. 

626
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,800
She doesn't even mention her 
feelings, just that Murphy is 

627
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,960
the square peg that she's 
crammed into her round the round

628
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,640
boyfriend hole. 
And now that I say that. 

629
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,520
Yeah, I sounds wrong, but you 
know, I know. 

630
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920
He's the boyfriend, Peg. 
And she's like, see. 

631
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,760
And it's like, no, yeah, no, 
Robin. 

632
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,560
I get what you mean. 
Also, I think we know who her 

633
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,800
heart is going to end up 
spending Christmas Day with. 

634
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,360
And spoiler alert, it's not 
Murphy. 

635
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,600
She literally ends up on the 
floor holding Strike's gift and 

636
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,200
his love and thinking about how 
she loves him and texting him. 

637
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,480
She does spend Christmas with 
him. 

638
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,760
He successfully Christmas blocks
Murphy. 

639
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Oh, he does. 
He does a really good job. 

640
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,760
I'm so proud he wins that 
battle. 

641
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Oh, I love him. 
Murphy gets to go home, but it 

642
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,560
strikes she's thinking of crying
drunk on the bathroom floor. 

643
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,200
I guess this says that Robin is 
reading Murphy's comment purely 

644
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,920
his jealousy. 
But also Robin girl, get real. 

645
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,200
You don't seriously want to 
spend your holidays with this 

646
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040
man. 
Like you wouldn't give anything 

647
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,240
to have Strike be the one that 
you're taking home and spending 

648
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Christmas with. 
Sometimes I wonder if she even 

649
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,280
likes Murphy. 
I don't know. 

650
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,360
I don't. 
So maybe I'm projecting my own 

651
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,320
feelings onto Robin, but I'm 
like, you don't even like him. 

652
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Robin, you hate. 
I mean, I know why you're with 

653
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,080
him. 
Kind and stuff, but. 

654
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,080
Building with us. 
Anyway, she's saying these words

655
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,160
to Murphy in her head, but 
actually she's quite literally 

656
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,920
saying them to herself. 
She's trying to convince herself

657
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,680
of this thing, that he is the 
one she's bringing home when she

658
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,720
knows he's not the one she wants
to be bringing home or spending 

659
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,320
Christmas with. 
Yeah, exactly. 

660
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,200
That makes total sense. 
It's like she's trying to 

661
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,000
brainwash herself. 
She is. 

662
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,200
She's. 
Continuing the work of the UHC. 

663
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,680
Oh Ouch. 
I like that Joe chose to have a 

664
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,760
married couple with children and
a pregnant wife show Robin and 

665
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,240
Murphy this house because it 
feels like a hazy advertisement 

666
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,240
to Robin and Murphy too about 
what her future life with Murphy

667
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,800
could look like. 
Oh no, Robin did not like that. 

668
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,960
Yeah, not like that. 
I have a question though. 

669
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,760
What the heck does it mean when 
it says that the house was a 

670
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,120
bandbox? 
Neat. 

671
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,920
So from what I can gather, I 
looked it up. 

672
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,960
Band box neat means exquisitely 
neat, clean or ordered as if 

673
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,960
just taken from a band box. 
It's a band box is I think a 

674
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,400
like a small lightweight box 
that holds pieces of clothing 

675
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,600
like ruffs we're in the 17th 
century, or like collars or like

676
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,800
a lightweight hatbox for your 
bonnet, like little accessories 

677
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,120
and bits. 
Possibly, though I saw one 

678
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,120
website that said it 
specifically holds like the 

679
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,040
clergyman outfit. 
I think the implication with 

680
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,400
this phrase is that whatever 
piece of clothing you're pulling

681
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,360
out of the bandbox is unworn. 
So it's nice and neat and clean 

682
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,880
the same way you put it away, 
you know? 

683
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,199
I see, because this was the most
unbelievable part of the chapter

684
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,520
for me. 
Was that the House was so 

685
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,159
spotless with two small kids, 
one who had been sick and then 

686
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:18,719
the woman was pregnant. 
Yeah. 

687
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,880
Maybe they have a house cleaner 
or a babysitter that comes in to

688
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,000
help. 
Could have hired someone 

689
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,800
specifically. 
For this morning, for the, for 

690
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,280
the showings. 
Right. 

691
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,159
Only possibility I can see or 
someone just is much tidier than

692
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,440
I am. 
Also possible. 

693
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,600
Yeah, fun fact, while I was 
researching this though, in the 

694
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,960
18th century there was a plot to
kill the the Earl of Oxford by 

695
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,199
rigging some pistols in a 
bandbox to fire when it was 

696
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,000
opened like a parcel bomb. 
Oh, I know this story. 

697
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,120
Yeah. 
So I don't. 

698
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,600
No, I don't. 
That was a camera. 

699
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,440
Oh, OK. 
Never mind, I got really 

700
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,120
excited. 
It was the same murder plot. 

701
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,760
Sorry, go ahead. 
How would the camera kill 

702
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,800
someone? 
Tell me the story, maybe? 

703
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,960
I'm well, the so the bandbox 
plot. 

704
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,280
It was foiled by Jonathan Swift 
of all people who saw the 

705
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,360
strings coming out of the back 
of the box. 

706
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,920
I don't know about the Pistols. 
The story that I. 

707
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Know and then and then he cut 
them which like easy plot to 

708
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,920
sport. 
OK. 

709
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,880
Not super relevant, just a fun 
history fact and a gun being 

710
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,640
rigged to kill someone would be 
a fun murderer for striking 

711
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,760
Ellicott self. 
Maybe that was the murder plot 

712
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,240
that I was thinking of and I 
just misremembered the box with 

713
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,600
the camera box. 
It sounds very familiar, huh? 

714
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,320
Like they rigged someone rigged 
like a 19th century camera with 

715
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,760
a gun would make. 
Something like that. 

716
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,800
Yeah, definitely. 
Okay, yeah, maybe I'm just 

717
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,360
mixing up a box. 
Yeah, you might. 

718
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,520
A gun in a box with another gun 
in a box. 

719
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,360
Yeah, possible. 
Anyway, it was a fun, fun, 

720
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,200
interesting history story. 
Yeah, that is interesting. 

721
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,000
It feels like we get a hint of 
the old Robin back when we read 

722
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,240
her thoughts after. 
Murphy squeezes her hand while 

723
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,200
they look at the kids room. 
I will never live in this house.

724
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,360
Like damn right you won't. 
I literally cheered out loud 

725
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,520
when I read that part. 
I was so happy. 

726
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,560
I was just like thank you Lord, 
Amen. 

727
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,480
Can I get an Amen for Robin? 
Please and thank you the. 

728
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,120
Thought comes into her mind, 
just like how she suddenly knew 

729
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,040
Strike was there for her. 
But it's like like the opposite.

730
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,080
But the feel of it felt the same
for me. 

731
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,680
So that means that I knew she 
was right. 

732
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,120
It's the truth. 
She was. 

733
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,920
It's the truth. 
This is the second inner thought

734
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,960
she's had in this chapter, but 
this is the only truthful one. 

735
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,600
First was the one about who 
she's taking home. 

736
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,600
Well, the first is technically 
truthful, but not the spirit of 

737
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,560
it. 
Yeah, I predict that she's going

738
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,640
to get better at distinguishing 
between the thoughts that are 

739
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,200
purely her truth and the 
thoughts that are anxious. 

740
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Lies in sleep tight Evangeline. 
I hope so. 

741
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,280
I'm really counting on therapy 
to help her here. 

742
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,320
I've got all my eggs in that 
basket. 

743
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,840
Yeah, especially with learning 
to accept her thoughts and 

744
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,640
investigate where they're coming
from rather than instinctively 

745
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,400
suppressing them. 
So Doctor Broccoli had better 

746
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,520
pull through on this one because
I'm rooting for her. 

747
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,600
I am already ready to deeply 
love. 

748
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,880
Doctor, I'm so ready. 
I'm primed. 

749
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:20,000
I'm ready for her to be my hero.
She can be my hero. 

750
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,480
Baby, we need a hero. 
She can therapize away my pain. 

751
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,760
That too. 
And we do need a hero. 

752
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,840
We're holding up for the hero of
Evangeline. 

753
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,520
Robin girl, that stomach 
clenching should be telling you 

754
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,280
something. 
Yes. 

755
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,880
Listen to your body, she. 
Should really notice that it's 

756
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,240
it's Murphy making her stomach 
clench. 

757
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,800
It's not the house. 
It's Murphy squeezing her hand. 

758
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,040
Is the moment where she knows 
the house is wrong. 

759
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,640
It's because she knows he's 
wrong. 

760
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,800
Her come Jesus moment and sleep 
tight. 

761
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,800
Evangeline is going to be so, so
good when she learns to finally 

762
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,160
start listening to herself. 
I know this is a possibly 

763
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,480
dangerous place to be, but I've 
been feeling really hopeful 

764
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,680
lately for Sleep Tight 
Evangeline. 

765
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,760
It comes and it goes, you know? 
I have some waves, but I always 

766
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,760
come back to Eros and Psyche. 
No, because you know what? 

767
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,840
I'm feeling really hopeful too. 
OK, I know many people think 

768
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,040
that everything going on with 
Robin is going to get worse in 

769
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,880
Evangeline before it gets 
better, but I honestly think 

770
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,760
that Hallmark man, was actually 
her rock bottom because her 

771
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,920
decision to reach out for help 
at the end of this book is huge 

772
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,800
growth for her. 
It's a turning point moment, and

773
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,160
it's setting up something that's
going to help her start 

774
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,280
recovering from all of this in 
Evangeline. 

775
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,320
And we know it's coming at the 
very beginning of the book 

776
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,560
because of the timeline. 
You laughing at me? 

777
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,080
What did I? 
Do. 

778
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Yeah, Well, because last time 
you abbreviated it to Sleep 

779
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,920
tight and now you're just saying
Evangeline. 

780
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,200
I'm just saying whatever I feel.
No, I like it. 

781
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,280
And I'm testing out different 
acronyms. 

782
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,840
Right. 
No, I like Evangeline. 

783
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,000
I'm going to see what feels best
to me. 

784
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,880
I didn't know that a lot of 
people think that I agree with 

785
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,080
you pools because I I see it as 
an ink black heart parallel that

786
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,800
was really strikes rock bottom. 
And then we get the big shock at

787
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,200
the end with Robin going off to 
date Murphy and he finally 

788
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,880
admits that he's in love. 
So I see that as a parallel and 

789
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,760
we know that we're going to 
start 5 minutes after. 

790
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,600
So I think, I think that could 
be a continuation of a rock 

791
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,720
bottom. 
But I think that we probably 

792
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,960
will get a little bit of a time 
jump to to skip over some 

793
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,440
therapy. 
Yeah. 

794
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,920
I mean, we still have to find 
we, we still are going to find 

795
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,400
out about Pat's birthday though,
and that's in May. 

796
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,840
So that's like a month. 
So that's. 

797
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,080
That's pretty close. 
The end of the last book, but 

798
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,000
we'll see. 
We'll see. 

799
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,920
I'm still inclined to think that
Sleep Tight Evangeline will be 

800
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,280
rock bottom, like at least at 
some point in the book, just 

801
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,160
because of how much drama is 
going to ensue in the fallout of

802
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,880
it's. 
Going to be so much drama, it's 

803
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,080
going to be so messy. 
I can't wait. 

804
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,520
Yeah, exactly. 
The drama from her breakup is 

805
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,720
going to be huge. 
But I can't fault your logic 

806
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:57,920
though. 
I could see that happening. 

807
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,560
I just think that sometimes the 
freedom that truth gives you 

808
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:08,400
outweighs drama. 
In the sense that you still feel

809
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,760
so much happier and lighter. 
So just because there's drama 

810
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,960
going on, it doesn't mean that 
she's going to hit a darker 

811
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,040
place. 
She could still be in a much 

812
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,000
better place even if there's 
drama going on with Murphy. 

813
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,680
It's the weight of her trying to
lie to herself that I think is 

814
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,040
really killing her in this book.
Yeah. 

815
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,800
Even if there's drama with 
Murphy, I think she could still 

816
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,880
be in a much better place. 
She's making better choices, 

817
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,480
she's feeling better, it's just 
the rest of the world is blowing

818
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,720
up because of everything she did
in this book. 

819
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,560
But she can still be in a better
place, yeah. 

820
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,520
I've also been thinking more and
more that strikes confession. 

821
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,520
At the end of this book will be 
the shock that makes Robin 

822
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,880
actually confront her true 
feelings, because in the 

823
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,200
hypergraph for this last 
chapter, 127, I guess we've just

824
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,680
skipped ahead to discuss the 
last chapter now, because I have

825
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,920
to. 
Sometimes it says there's the 

826
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,800
universal collapse. 
I think that universal collapse 

827
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,280
will turn out to be the collapse
of the lies she's been spinning 

828
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,680
for herself. 
They're the intent air of the 

829
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,760
chamber that will be dissolved 
under the irresistible pressure 

830
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,160
of the sea. 
Totally. 

831
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,960
Essentially so. 
The underground chamber in the 

832
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,920
upper graph is Robin and Ryan's 
relationship, and the air pocket

833
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,440
that's supporting the crust is 
Robin's lies and the 

834
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,880
irresistible sea is Robin and 
strikes love for each other. 

835
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,200
It is indeed irresistible to me.
To me, to all of us, to them. 

836
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,240
And I visualize the beginning of
Evangeline being the aftermath 

837
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,520
of this collapse, that moment 
that strike says this. 

838
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,080
It's all falls apart. 
And I don't think that aftermath

839
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,720
is going to be Robin saying yes,
although I'm very prepared to be

840
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,240
proven wrong. 
And then the end of Evangeline 

841
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,800
will be that Eros and Psyche 
moment on the way to their 

842
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,480
wedding, right? 
You see, it all makes perfect 

843
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,320
sense. 
I might as well have a Direct 

844
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,680
Line to Joe's thoughts here. 
This is how I see it too, which 

845
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,840
is why it scares me. 
Yeah, I know. 

846
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,920
Which means I'm probably 100% 
wrong. 

847
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,320
Exactly. 
I do have to remind myself that 

848
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,520
my general feelings for the 
running grave were correct, so I

849
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,000
have a shot at getting this 
right. 

850
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Our hearts are good. 
My even number books predictions

851
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,000
were wrong, but my odd number 
seems to be better. 

852
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,960
I have better shots at my odd 
numbers. 

853
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,440
OK, OK. 
Fingers crossed. 

854
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,400
Fingers crossed. 
I kind of laugh a bit at how 

855
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,560
Robin just she cannot get out of
that house fast enough. 

856
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,000
Home Girl literally turned into 
Roadrunner. 

857
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,080
Murphy squeezes her hand and 
she's like. 

858
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,960
Murphy asks if they should go 
look upstairs again and Robin's 

859
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,160
like no, there, there are good 
pictures online, let's let's go,

860
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,960
let's go get a coffee. 
It's like when Strike wants to 

861
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,640
go scope out the suspects houses
in Silkworm and Robin says let's

862
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,240
just use Google Maps. 
No, she's doing it again. 

863
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,640
You're right, last time it was 
because she didn't want to go in

864
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,560
the freezing rain again. 
And you can blame her because 

865
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,800
putting on a damp scarf is a 
nightmare. 

866
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,600
I'm just including that because 
people really liked the scarf 

867
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
talk. 
I'm just giving the listeners. 

868
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,520
I was really surprised about 
that. 

869
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,560
I'm just thinking about me 
editing that episode. 

870
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,000
I was sitting here thinking, 
should I delete all this 

871
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,280
nonsense scarf talk? 
No, who's going to care? 

872
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,840
I guess it's good I didn't many.
People the. 

873
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,120
Amount of comments and emails we
got about scarves. 

874
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,880
Yeah, so anyway, I guess that 
the idea of spending more time 

875
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,720
in this house, pretending that 
she and Murphy have a future 

876
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,880
here is about as pleasant as 
wrapping a cold, damp scarf 

877
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,520
around your neck and heading out
into literal freezing rain. 

878
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,400
The best part of that is if 
Robin had the choice, I think we

879
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,040
all know that she'd pick. 
The scarf and surveilling houses

880
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,080
absolutely every time strike. 
I also love her saying we should

881
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,840
have a look around the area. 
Girl, you don't want to know a 

882
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,160
single thing about this 
neighborhood. 

883
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:58,920
You don't care. 
The only possible good thing in 

884
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,880
this for Robin, besides getting 
away, is maybe the coffee. 

885
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,400
She needs it, she needs it, but 
Murphy is not a good enough 

886
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,720
detective to notice she's full 
of it and call her out. 

887
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,160
Or he doesn't know her well 
enough. 

888
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Or he doesn't, unlike a certain 
other detective who called her 

889
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,800
out about the Google Maps thing 
and was like, no, we're going to

890
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,440
look at the houses. 
He sure go. 

891
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,720
Have I mentioned yet in this 
episode that I I really love 

892
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,120
him? 
I don't think so. 

893
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,160
It's been. 
I wasn't sure if you did still. 

894
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:25,880
So it's a good thing you 
mentioned death. 

895
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,960
I know I don't want anyone to 
forget. 

896
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,480
Hashtag never forget. 
So notice how when Murphy has to

897
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,040
take a work call, that Robin 
doesn't act like a weirdo and 

898
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,480
ask Murphy what she's not 
allowed to hear. 

899
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,840
You know, almost like he's 
allowed to have work calls. 

900
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,400
An incredible concept, though. 
I mean, to be fair, that's 

901
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,120
partly because she wants privacy
to call strike back, but still. 

902
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,760
Right, she's just using the work
call. 

903
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,280
I do kind of want to see Robin 
act like a weirdo though I not 

904
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,320
necessarily in this kind of 
context of being jealous because

905
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,320
we we see Robin being jealous 
all the time. 

906
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:03,560
Not with Murphy, obviously, but 
just what can Robin be weird 

907
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,760
about? 
Strike. 

908
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Just like silly goofy. 
Robin OK, because I'm like I saw

909
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,400
a meme about two characters 
being weird and abnormal about 

910
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,560
about each other and it was it 
was on humbler with Strike and 

911
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,440
Robin and I'm like they are very
weird and abnormal about each 

912
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,640
other. 
I want to see goofy. 

913
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,960
Robin to see her be goofy. 
Anyway, I was going to say she's

914
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,080
not being weirdo about it 
because she doesn't care. 

915
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,440
It's true. 
She's not interested in telling 

916
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,120
Murphy what he can investigate, 
and she probably definitely 

917
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,320
isn't going to be jealous about 
female colleagues. 

918
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Can you imagine if Strike was 
like, oh, Kim's calling, I got 

919
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,560
to take this and then walked? 
Off oh, he'd be in so much 

920
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,040
trouble Dodge he was jailed 
immediately She. 

921
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,560
Was weird spiraling. 
Absolutely spiraling. 

922
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,600
He would never. 
Keep him the difference between 

923
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,680
how she would react even if he 
wasn't. 

924
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,640
He was just like, oh, I have to 
I have to take this and walked 

925
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,760
off. 
She'd be like who the fuck is he

926
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,000
talking to? 
Why can't I hear this is? 

927
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,360
He talking to Bijou? 
Different bijou. 

928
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,960
Is it Kim Charlotte's back from 
the dead? 

929
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,960
I think she would literally 
believe in Charlotte's 

930
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,480
resurrection over strike loving 
her at this point. 

931
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,760
Robin, bless her heart anyway, I
agree. 

932
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,480
Thing is, she already knows she 
doesn't care enough about Murphy

933
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,600
to get jealous. 
Like she figured that out a 

934
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,600
couple of chapters ago when she 
had to pretend to care about him

935
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,040
getting information out of 
Iverson. 

936
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,480
And the fact that she knows that
still isn't clicking for her 

937
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,960
what she needs to do is like 
blowing my mind. 

938
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,120
Blowing. 
It's mind blowing, really. 

939
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,440
I love her. 
She's. 

940
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,480
Ridiculous and I love. 
Her she is also OK, so I know 

941
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,040
not everyone will agree with me 
here. 

942
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Oh. 
I love when a service starts 

943
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,280
like that. 
I do think it's a bit suspicious

944
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,640
that he's being careful to get 
out of her earshot before he 

945
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,080
picks up this. 
It was a work. 

946
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Call, okay, here we go. 
Just saying, okay. 

947
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,320
I'm not saying he's definitely 
messing around with Iverson or 

948
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,920
whatever, I'm just raising my 
eyebrows because cheaters tend 

949
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,080
to project their behavior on to 
their partners. 

950
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:15,760
We all know this, We can see 
patterns and Murphy getting 

951
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,080
snarky about not being allowed 
to listen to her phone call 

952
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,120
before being careful not to hide
his own. 

953
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,680
I'm just saying. 
Yeah, I see the logic, but I 

954
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,680
think one of the points here is 
to show that Murphy's being a 

955
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,800
little hypocritical. 
You know that he has the right 

956
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,920
to privacy for work calls, but 
Robin doesn't. 

957
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,120
Yeah. 
I think I'm going to remain 

958
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,200
consistent in my prediction that
Murphy won't do anything like 

959
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,360
cheating. 
Why are you laughing? 

960
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,640
No, I'm just you're very 
consistent. 

961
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,920
Well, thank you. 
It's on brand. 

962
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,040
Yes. 
I don't think that he's going to

963
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,680
give Robin an out because she 
needs to leave for other 

964
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,080
reasons. 
Oh, she does. 

965
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,880
As we've discussed at length. 
At length. 

966
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,720
I think it would be a normal 
thing given their jobs for them 

967
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:58,160
to both need private phone 
calls, so that doesn't seem odd 

968
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,440
to me. 
I think the purpose of this is 

969
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,360
to show Murphy's jealousy of 
Strike, obviously his investment

970
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,200
of Robin, and encounter that 
with her complete lack of those 

971
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,480
things in him, and that all she 
cares about is that she's given 

972
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,960
an opportunity to have this 
moment with Strike and that she 

973
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,160
doesn't even see it. 
Yeah, very true. 

974
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,240
But I think a lot of people will
like your idea much better just 

975
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:25,400
because it's murder. 
Because it's fun. 

976
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,480
I think that I will be proven. 
Right, it could be cheating and 

977
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,600
she doesn't find out until after
she already breaks up with him. 

978
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,280
That way we get her growth and 
we also get him being a 

979
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,960
shithead. 
I just don't think that's going 

980
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,800
to happen. 
Yeah, probably not. 

981
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,480
But no, probably not. 
I can imagine it. 

982
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,720
Schrodinger's shithead. 
You know like you both is 

983
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,360
exactly. 
What did you just? 

984
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,680
Say. 
Schrodinger's. 

985
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,560
Shit. 
Head Yeah, he he both is and is 

986
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,920
not a shithead at the same time.
You don't know until you open 

987
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,200
that box and take a peek. 
It sounds bad like that, like 

988
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,440
you're opening a toilet, like 
the box is a toilet. 

989
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,920
Does sound gross? 
It does sound. 

990
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,840
It does. 
So next, moving on to Robin's 

991
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,960
phone call with Dyllis. 
Quick side note, the name Dillis

992
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,640
is a Welsh name that means 
genuine or true. 

993
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,120
No idea if that was done with 
intention, but maybe a little 

994
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,320
hint towards the true identity 
of the victim or something. 

995
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,040
Was there a Dillis in Harry 
Potter? 

996
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,400
I feel like there was. 
I feel so familiar. 

997
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,440
I want her last name to be 
Derwent. 

998
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,720
Isn't that a last name from the 
Maeve Kerrigan series? 

999
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,760
Yeah, I was right. 
She was a healer and former 

1000
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,680
headmistress of Hogwarts. 
Dillis Derwent. 

1001
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,640
Yeah. 
Oh my goodness, look at you. 

1002
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,160
So it's good to know that I 
remember my Harry Potter. 

1003
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:41,680
You're going to be like an old 
lady who can't remember 

1004
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,840
anything, but you're going to 
say, wasn't there a Harry Potter

1005
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,840
character? 
You know I. 

1006
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,040
Can remember very specific 
things, not anything I've done 

1007
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,960
or said or heard, but things 
that I've read I remember much 

1008
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,240
better. 
Anyway, I was looking so the 

1009
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,840
meaning of this name Dyllis 
meaning like genuine, true, 

1010
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,160
steadfast. 
I think I saw one definition, 

1011
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,880
the meaning actually with this 
character would make since 

1012
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,040
because she is really steadfast 
in her assertion that the person

1013
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,600
texting her wasn't Tyler. 
Yeah, she is that he? 

1014
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,120
Said Silver on the phone. 
And both those things are 

1015
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,560
absolutely true. 
It's sad that because she's 

1016
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,520
older, it's just so easy to say 
she doesn't know what she's 

1017
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,640
saying, you know? 
But she absolutely did. 

1018
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Yeah, Chris takes advantage of 
that. 

1019
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,800
More elder abuse? 
The first thing that I loved 

1020
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,800
about rereading this phone call 
was seeing how Robin's mention 

1021
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,400
of the great niece is never 
heard or acknowledged by Dillis,

1022
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,880
and therefore it's never 
disputed. 

1023
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,520
I hadn't picked up on that. 
That's a good catch. 

1024
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,560
Yeah, it is, because you're 
right, she doesn't acknowledge 

1025
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,400
it. 
Later on, Griffs makes sure to 

1026
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,440
tell them not to mention the 
great niece to Dillis because of

1027
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,080
her dead cat, but that was a 
cover to make sure Dillis 

1028
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,800
wouldn't contradict the story. 
That should have been way more 

1029
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,080
suspicious to me, right? 
Someone telling them not to 

1030
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,480
mention something for any reason
the. 

1031
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,200
First thing they should do is 
mention it to that person to 

1032
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,360
find out why, right? 
So, so suspicious. 

1033
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,680
So suspicious. 
We should have been on red alert

1034
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,040
being like, excuse me? 
Nobody ever would say that to 

1035
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,440
the police. 
No, nobody ever would say hey, 

1036
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,160
Officer so and so, Detective so 
and so. 

1037
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,320
Don't bring this up because it 
would really bother them because

1038
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,960
they're cats dead. 
Nobody would say that because 

1039
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,720
you don't tell the detectives 
not to investigate. 

1040
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:32,160
Stuff to bring up. 
God, exactly. 

1041
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,120
I'm really annoyed with myself 
for not picking that one up. 

1042
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,960
Yeah. 
She really made sure to distract

1043
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,840
us with all the misery and 
everything. 

1044
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,840
So distracted by hating Murphy, 
I was like. 

1045
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,240
Fucking hating Murphy, hating 
Kim, being worried. 

1046
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,040
Being miserable. 
I don't know all these clues 

1047
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,080
slipping right under my radar. 
Well, you got to hand it to her,

1048
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,960
you know, she really has kept it
fresh with ways to keep us 

1049
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,200
distracted from clues in the 
writing, right? 

1050
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,120
Yes, she's really good at it. 
She's like, first we distracted 

1051
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,520
you with the shippy stuff and 
now we're going to make you so 

1052
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,560
miserable and worried about 
other stuff that I don't have a 

1053
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,560
single ounce of attention for 
mystery. 

1054
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,720
Yeah, she heard all the talk 
around troubled blood. 

1055
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:15,960
Oh, you liked all that shippy 
stuff to distract you? 

1056
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,360
Well, guess what? 
It'll give you the exact. 

1057
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,640
That's what's coming your way, 
Book 8. 

1058
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,760
That's Joe definitely planning 
to distract us with Strike and 

1059
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,840
Robin's misery. 
And they're absolutely she's. 

1060
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,320
She's evil though. 
Laughing, definitely. 

1061
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,360
She'll make it up to us, right? 
Yes. 

1062
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,520
Right, Yes, I have. 
Every every action has an equal 

1063
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,520
and opposite reaction, so I've 
heard that. 

1064
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,920
Somewhere. 
Science. 

1065
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,640
Yep. 
Oh, that's you. 

1066
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,400
I was obviously thinking of 
Hamilton. 

1067
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,040
I was thinking of of of science,
but hey, if it works, it works. 

1068
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,920
Robin says Your great niece told
me you were in hospital. 

1069
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,360
What? 
I hope you're better now, Robin 

1070
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,080
said loudly while I'm home, 
mumble Dillis Powell. 

1071
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,560
So the other thing that's never 
disputed is whether or not she 

1072
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,920
was in the hospital. 
So I don't know if she was or or

1073
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,600
not. 
I don't think we ever get 

1074
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,320
confirmation that she was from 
her, but I believe that she was 

1075
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,960
OK because Griff's story about 
what happened to her, like on 

1076
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,480
the icy hill, it was really 
detailed and it made sense. 

1077
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:31,240
I don't see why he would want to
make up a lie about where she'd 

1078
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:32,880
been because it didn't really 
serve her. 

1079
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,040
Purpose. 
And easily disproven, although I

1080
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,280
bet that Griffs was the one who 
was actually supposed to look 

1081
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,040
after her cat and killed it that
bastard. 

1082
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,120
On purpose. 
Probably. 

1083
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,400
Or actually I mean. 
Psychopaths like that, That is, 

1084
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,280
that's like what they start 
with, like growing up and stuff.

1085
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,160
They'll start with small animals
and then where? 

1086
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,480
He would have no problem killing
if he was annoyed with it. 

1087
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,760
Or just let it die because he's 
a piece of shit. 

1088
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,720
Wouldn't that turn her against 
him? 

1089
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,880
And isn't that risky? 
Or maybe he just failed to take 

1090
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,360
care of the cat. 
You know, I just think that it's

1091
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,880
easy and smart to change one 
small detail of the truth to 

1092
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,000
create the lie. 
Because he had the story about 

1093
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,640
the great knees and the cat. 
Ready to go. 

1094
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,080
It's kind of like a troubled 
blood sort of thing like Janice,

1095
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,680
where it's just, it's the truth,
but there's just enough of a lie

1096
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,160
in there. 
Oh, and of course he was the one

1097
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,480
who was supposed to feed the cat
because that's how he got access

1098
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,800
to the Ant answering machine. 
And the message is that Robin 

1099
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,160
left for Dillas and that's how 
he knew they were investigating 

1100
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,880
what happened to Tyler. 
Surprising she still has an 

1101
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,720
answering machine. 
I know. 

1102
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,320
Yeah. 
But so we know Griffs is the one

1103
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,200
who sends Wade King. 
I was looking at the timeline. 

1104
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:40,960
Hold on, it's his name. 
Really. 

1105
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,120
Wade King. 
Is it? 

1106
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:45,320
I think so. 
Yeah, you didn't just take that 

1107
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,800
from the guy from what's the 
show called? 

1108
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,240
What's the fish tank show 
called? 

1109
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,160
I don't know, I don't watch a 
fish tank show. 

1110
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,440
You guys don't watch the the 
aquarium guys? 

1111
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,360
No what? 
No, that's not that. 

1112
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,360
That's his actual name in the 
book is well. 

1113
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,480
In the book, the guy who keeps 
attacking Robin is Wade King. 

1114
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,560
And fuck that guy. 
Fuck that guy and Griff sent 

1115
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,000
him. 
I I think. 

1116
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Ed Wade King, you guys. 
I don't know, I genuinely have 

1117
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,960
zero idea what you're talking. 
About tanks from Animal Planet. 

1118
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,440
No. 
Their names are Brett and Wade 

1119
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,480
King. 
I don't have cable either. 

1120
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,520
I have too many shows to catch 
up on and streaming to be 

1121
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,960
wasting. 
Time watching cable. 

1122
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:27,240
I loved watching tanks because 
you guys know I love an 

1123
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:30,320
aquarium. 
I mean, the show's kind of silly

1124
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,360
because it's all scripted 
silliness, but they make 

1125
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,200
beautiful tanks for their 
clients. 

1126
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,440
And nice. 
It's just about how they make 

1127
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,280
the tanks, and then they show 
the finished product. 

1128
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,840
Anyway, their names are Brett 
and Wade King. 

1129
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,800
Well, interesting. 
Apparently Wade's had a It's a 

1130
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,600
little bit of a career pivot it.
Went with me before it. 

1131
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,440
Might be a coincidence, I don't 
know. 

1132
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,320
Or maybe Joe also. 
Watches this. 

1133
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,440
It must be a coincidence. 
I got a bone to pick with you, 

1134
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,440
Wade. 
It's a family business and yeah,

1135
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,280
they. 
Oh, OK, interesting. 

1136
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,560
How funny. 
I don't know why that's another 

1137
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,800
place with me before, because 
I'm a big fan of that show. 

1138
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,560
Sorry. 
That's funny. 

1139
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,040
Anyway, I was trying to figure 
out when Griffs sent Wade King 

1140
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,720
after Robin. 
When would he have found out 

1141
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,920
that they were looking into him 
and then immediately sent a guy 

1142
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,560
after her? 
So I went to the timeline on 

1143
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,880
strikefans.com on December 15th.
Robin talks to Sapphire 

1144
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,800
pretending to be the great niece
so she has that call. 

1145
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,880
So we know that Griffs knows 
they're investigating. 

1146
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,360
Then on the 17th today, she 
talks to Dillis. 

1147
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,600
So that's two days later. 
And then it's the 19th when Wade

1148
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,120
King grabs her, I think it's 
waking and forces the rubber 

1149
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,880
gorilla into her hand. 
That's four days after she 

1150
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,560
talked to the fake great niece. 
That's really quick, just 

1151
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,240
because you know that they're 
looking into Tyler a bit. 

1152
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,280
Yeah, I think that Griffs did a 
bit of research on Strike and 

1153
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,240
Alicott after that call with 
Sapphire and realized how good 

1154
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:05,520
they are. 
They were scared, yeah. 

1155
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,800
And he got scared. 
He's like, oh fuck. 

1156
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,480
For good reason. 
Sniffing around, yeah. 

1157
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,640
And then decided, yeah, OK, I'll
scare them off because I can't 

1158
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,120
risk this, they guess. 
How scared he must have been 

1159
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,640
when they showed up in Iron 
Burst. 

1160
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:22,000
Shit his pants. 
I know, I love that. 

1161
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,920
Oh my God. 
Anyway, it's funny how quick he 

1162
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,560
sent Wade King, and it's 
definitely because he was like 

1163
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:34,160
oh shit, oh shit. 
Like we have 100% success rate, 

1164
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,480
so. 
Best agency in London. 

1165
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,200
Oh no, they're the protagonists.
Oh fucked. 

1166
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,800
Oh no. 
I'm fucked. 

1167
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,800
Oh no, they're protagonists. 
I'm. 

1168
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,600
Fucked no. 
Speaking of Griff, this is our 

1169
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,520
first mention of Griff that we 
get here during this phone call.

1170
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,760
Now this is interesting because 
Dillis says that Tyler told 

1171
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,800
Griffs where he was going, but 
he didn't tell her. 

1172
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,640
Obviously, I don't think this is
true because Tyler was hiding 

1173
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,520
from Griffs unless he gave him a
fake story. 

1174
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,840
What really happened? 
I wanted someone else to look 

1175
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,240
this up so that, yeah, I didn't 
have to. 

1176
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,960
Hey, that's the dream team, 
Dream team. 

1177
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,160
Dream Team. 
Somebody else do my work for me?

1178
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,480
Settle. 
Not it. 

1179
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,960
From what I can figure out. 
So we hear from Dillis that 

1180
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,320
Tyler told Griff. 
Where who is going? 

1181
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,360
Never told me. 
Presumably this means it was 

1182
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,280
Griffs who told Dillis that 
Tyler told him like that 

1183
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,240
originally came from Griffs. 
Which means it's very likely a 

1184
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,000
total lie. 
It could very easily be a total 

1185
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,880
lie. 
It could be possible, I guess, 

1186
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,160
that Tyler pretended to Griffs 
that he was going to work in a 

1187
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,160
pub as an attempt to hide his 
real intentions. 

1188
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,360
But I think I'd lean towards it 
being a lie just because I don't

1189
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,200
think that Tyler was the type of
person to fake friendliness with

1190
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,040
this creep once he knew the 
truth about Yolanda and Chloe. 

1191
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,920
Like, he doesn't have that 
artifice in him. 

1192
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,200
He doesn't have that cleverness.
He's not going to do that. 

1193
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,560
He's too honest. 
He's too sweet in my mind to 

1194
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,680
come up with that, you know? 
So I think it was bullshit. 

1195
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,840
I call the bullshit on that one.
Like Karl Pilkington. 

1196
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,560
Bullshit. 
Yeah. 

1197
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,360
I don't care if that's. 15 years
old, it's still funny. 

1198
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,440
It's still funny. 
It's a great superpower. 

1199
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,360
All right, moving on to Robin's 
phone call with Strike. 

1200
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,160
There is something that I really
like when Strike is talking 

1201
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,840
about his conversation with 
Ralph Lawrence about Nile Semple

1202
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,400
and he starts talking in depth 
about Army stuff. 

1203
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,280
Maybe it's just because it's 
another area of expertise for 

1204
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,120
him and competency is super 
attractive, but in any case I 

1205
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,760
really like it. 
I was with Robin on all of it. 

1206
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,400
When she says, what does that 
mean? 

1207
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,880
Right. 
Like translation into English 

1208
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,120
please. 
Yeah, I too had no idea what the

1209
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,200
hell he was on about. 
Although it is very sexy that 

1210
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,200
he's like talking about stuff. 
I agree. 

1211
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,760
Talking about stuff. 
He's just talking about stuff. 

1212
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,760
Although so we do learn the 
interesting fact that no one in 

1213
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,840
the military is apparently 
allowed to have a beard except 

1214
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,200
for special forces. 
I think that's just rude. 

1215
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,920
Yeah, all I can say is a good 
thing Strike left so that he's 

1216
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,760
allowed to look like that sexy 
gorilla leader that Robin loves 

1217
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,800
so much. 
I love how you just added sexy 

1218
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,000
to that and Robin didn't. 
Say that at all. 

1219
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,800
It was heavily implied. 
Was it I? 

1220
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,960
Think it was very heavily 
implied that she found him, yes.

1221
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,880
I think we can assume she's one 
of those women who likes beards,

1222
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,840
yes? 
I hope so. 

1223
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,920
I hope we get official 
confirmation that would be. 

1224
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,800
I would love to get. 
Certainly. 

1225
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,800
Well. 
Please, please we need to know 

1226
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,160
it would do. 
I ask Strike to grow a beard 

1227
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,720
every single book. 
Yes. 

1228
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,640
Yeah. 
Am I going to continue to ask 

1229
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:44,480
for this? 
Yes. 

1230
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,720
We've got two more bucks left. 
We still have time. 

1231
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,240
I have to. 
Hope that Joe herself being 

1232
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,000
married to a bearded man. 
Surely beards? 

1233
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,880
Yes, surely she should give this
to us. 

1234
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,760
I agree, and then when Strike 
has the beard and we get Robin's

1235
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,760
internal monologue. 
On it then she could say she 

1236
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,200
will say she'll think it. 
She'll think it. 

1237
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,160
We need to know. 
We all need to know. 

1238
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,280
He needs to know, we need to 
know. 

1239
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,760
Everyone needs to know. 
It's an unexplored area that 

1240
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,360
needs to be explored. 
I volunteered to do a study. 

1241
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,440
How would this study be done? 
Me looking at dudes with beards 

1242
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,960
mostly rating them on a scale I 
don't know. 

1243
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,320
I'm very interested to know if 
Chase is in the room right now. 

1244
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,160
Let's. 
Play this video game. 

1245
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,080
He has a beard though, so he's 
fine. 

1246
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,360
Oh, does he? 
Yeah. 

1247
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,360
OK, so David has a beard too, so
we're allowed to say these 

1248
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,120
things? 
100% OK Anyway, I looked it up 

1249
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,080
because I could not believe that
they would be so cruel to the 

1250
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,640
women of this country to not 
allow military men to have 

1251
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,880
beards. 
I'm not sure it's entirely 

1252
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,960
correct because Wikipedia said 
that infantry, pioneer, warrant 

1253
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:58,040
officers, color sergeants, and 
sergeants traditionally wear and

1254
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,160
are permitted to wear beards. 
I'm not sure what that is. 

1255
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,160
Apparently in Pioneer something 
like engineers, so maybe it's 

1256
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,400
just a small group of them, I 
don't know. 

1257
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,800
It does say the PBSS. 
Yeah, I know. 

1258
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,200
It does say that special forces 
were allowed to have beards when

1259
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,600
doing intelligent missions are 
behind enemy lines, so that's 

1260
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,960
correct. 
In any case, good news everyone.

1261
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,400
In 2024, the Army changed the 
rules so that everyone could 

1262
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,000
have a beard. 
She said good news, everyone. 

1263
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,120
Good news everyone. 
In your. 

1264
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,600
Ultimate universe where Strike 
never left the military, he can 

1265
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,200
now wear a beard when he's not 
undercover. 

1266
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,880
You're welcome, I. 
Think it should be allowed? 

1267
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,400
I agree. 
Well, it is. 

1268
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,120
Well, OK, I then I agree it has.
Fantastic. 

1269
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,520
Approval, seal of approval. 
Next law he will discuss. 

1270
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,520
I wish I had final approval over
all the laws. 

1271
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,200
Please let us know what other 
laws we should discuss and 

1272
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,800
approve. 
Yeah, and then immediately, like

1273
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,760
right up there with our 
sentencing, like strike 

1274
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:00,960
sentencing. 
Thanks. 

1275
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,080
Call him a cunt. 
Give him 10 years. 

1276
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,600
It cuts out the red tape. 
So much red tape bureaucracy. 

1277
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,560
Another thing that I like about 
this whole conversation is when 

1278
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,680
Strike is absolutely spot on 
about simple being involved in 

1279
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,440
something that the intelligence 
forces didn't want the general 

1280
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,640
public to know about was just 
right on the money. 

1281
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,080
Spooky stuff. 
This next part that I really 

1282
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,360
like is the sense of release 
that Robin feels after telling 

1283
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,880
Strike that the house viewing 
didn't go well. 

1284
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,440
It's just so good to read 
because it's a bit of the truth 

1285
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,560
peeking out. 
And I like that she's 

1286
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,080
acknowledging internally that 
it's not really the house that's

1287
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,360
the problem, but it's the 
squeeze of Murphy's hand where 

1288
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,480
she's not really quite sure what
it means. 

1289
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,240
Whether it's consolation or 
encouragement or hope, all she 

1290
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,520
knows is that she does not want 
a future with this man. 

1291
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,040
Sorry, I'd love that. 
That was so sassy. 

1292
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,920
That was the sassiest I've ever 
heard. 

1293
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,480
I'll be honest, I have never 
considered that his hand 

1294
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,680
squeezed was consolation. 
Does anyone here think it was 

1295
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,880
consolation? 
Does anyone listening think that

1296
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,720
it was consolation? 
Not that I can hear you. 

1297
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,160
I never really gave it any 
thought because I I don't, I 

1298
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:24,200
don't really care about having 
insight into why Murphy does 

1299
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,600
whatever he does. 
I just want him to stop doing it

1300
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,200
and go away. 
OK. 

1301
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,040
And the choir said Amen. 
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, 

1302
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,960
squeeze your hand for whatever I
want. 

1303
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,360
The problem is that you're 
squeezing the hand. 

1304
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,440
I don't care, just. 
It should be somebody else 

1305
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,840
squeezing her hand. 
Yeah. 

1306
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,640
And for different reasons. 
And then I will analyze the hell

1307
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,400
out of what he meant by the hand
squeeze and what she took from 

1308
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,560
the hand squeeze and you know, 
what parts of the hand were 

1309
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:54,840
squeezed etcetera. 
But until that diagram it for 

1310
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,480
me. 
It is intriguing to me though 

1311
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,960
that Robin can't figure out what
Murphy meant by it either. 

1312
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,680
So whenever he was trying to 
communicate with that, it 

1313
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,720
definitely did not come through.
Very much lost in translation. 

1314
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,640
Well, I would like to try and 
talk about it. 

1315
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,560
Sure. 
I read this as a man who is 

1316
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,560
wanting children and is wanting 
them with Robin. 

1317
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,560
He's excited because he thinks 
buying a house with three 

1318
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,960
bedrooms that are already 
inhabited and decorated for 

1319
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,560
children must mean that Robin's 
reconsidering, and she's leaning

1320
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:30,400
towards wanting that too now. 
That's what I always thought 

1321
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,360
that this. 
Meant I. 

1322
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,120
Hate that? 
Well, I hate it too. 

1323
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,800
I thought that that's what this 
meant. 

1324
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,680
Again, I don't think there's 
anything wrong with Murphy 

1325
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,240
wanting kids and hoping for a 
future, but coming right after 

1326
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,880
that conversation where Robbins 
told him that she doesn't know 

1327
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,800
if she wants kids, the hand 
squeeze felt inappropriate. 

1328
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,000
Because I can see why Robin 
would take that as pressure. 

1329
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:59,000
However, I could also see the 
arguments that he's squeezing 

1330
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,280
her hand because they're looking
at a toddler's room and she's 

1331
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,640
just lost a baby. 
I hadn't considered that before.

1332
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,880
And I think that we're naturally
more inclined to see something 

1333
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,000
negative because, you know, 
we're hoping he suddenly, I 

1334
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,800
don't develops amnesia, becomes 
really into brunettes or 

1335
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,560
something. 
The truth is, I don't think 

1336
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,880
Murphy's motivations for the 
hand squeeze matters. 

1337
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,160
You're right, it's Robin's 
reaction to it that matters. 

1338
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,400
Her visceral. 
I will never live here. 

1339
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,720
It's just this clear response 
that she doesn't want this with 

1340
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,440
him. 
But she can't. 

1341
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,120
She can't see that yet. 
I'm sorry, Amnesia and a sudden 

1342
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,320
taste for brunettes. 
I don't know. 

1343
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,360
I hadn't. 
Heard that specific wish before?

1344
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,880
I love that. 
Maybe. 

1345
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,760
Maybe Murphy's the one who gets 
hit by the bus. 

1346
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,680
Hey, I feel like that could 
cause amnesia. 

1347
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,480
Judging by my soap operas. 
I'll. 

1348
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,720
Take it. 
I was just trying to be 

1349
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,160
creative. 
Most people wanted to get thrown

1350
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,880
off a Cliff or hit by a bus. 
I was just, you know, the. 

1351
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,160
Bad. 
Thing is that if he had amnesia,

1352
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,400
Robin would feel even guiltier 
and like needing to nurse have 

1353
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,480
the. 
Exact opposite effect. 

1354
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,480
God. 
OK, probably not that then. 

1355
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,160
Anyway, I agree it is what Robin
is thinking and feeling that 

1356
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,120
matter, you know, to the story, 
to us, not whatever's going to 

1357
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,800
him. 
Or if he's had that can wait 

1358
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,040
until he has his own book series
to matter. 

1359
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,040
This one is Robins and Strikes. 
That would be a terrible book 

1360
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,640
series, I imagine. 
Absolutely dreadful. 

1361
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,720
I would not read it. 
He would never solve the crime 

1362
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,560
he. 
Would always be the wrong 

1363
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,520
person. 
Spiral it. 

1364
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,680
Would be so boring. 
Be just his struggle staying so.

1365
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,320
It's a depressing book. 
It's a depressing book about a 

1366
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,560
divorced man who's troubles 
staying sober, who can't solve a

1367
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,080
crime. 
Like I'm. 

1368
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,280
Sorry, two stars I wouldn't 
read. 

1369
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,360
Man, 2 stars, that's generous. 
I felt bad. 

1370
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,720
For him, that's where. 
You go, he gave him pity *. 

1371
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,800
He would not be a good main 
character. 

1372
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:02,840
No, I'm sorry. 
No, he. 

1373
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,480
Would not. 
You know, there are some 

1374
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,040
characters in books that people 
give spin offs, you know, and 

1375
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,080
then they write. 
I'm not a fan of that. 

1376
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,880
He would make a really bad one. 
He'd make a terrible spin off. 

1377
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,720
Yeah. 
Who would I want to spin off of 

1378
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,840
in these books? 
I'm surprised you haven't 

1379
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,840
already said it. 
Pat, she could have all kinds of

1380
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,479
shit going on that we'd never 
know about. 

1381
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,040
I want Pat's books. 
I feel like she would not have 

1382
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,880
full length novels, but she 
would make really fun short 

1383
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:31,399
stories. 
She. 

1384
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:34,520
Would make the best short 
stories and read a whole book. 

1385
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,160
Give me Pat spin off. 
Now who were you thinking? 

1386
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,200
I was going to say. 
Oh, I thought you would say 

1387
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,240
Berkeley. 
Yeah. 

1388
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:43,640
I mean, yeah. 
Can I say something that is 

1389
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,880
controversial yet brave? 
OK. 

1390
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,600
I don't want any spin offs for 
any characters in these books. 

1391
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,240
I just want Strike and Robin. 
Just want more Strike and Robin.

1392
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:58,000
Goddamn I don't like when like 
series especially flog the shit 

1393
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,680
out of that IP until it is dead 
and. 

1394
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,240
Twitching. 
I agree I don't want marauders 

1395
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,600
stuff. 
Me neither, no. 

1396
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,600
A lot of people want like pre 
early strike stuff. 

1397
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,200
I don't want that because Robin 
wouldn't be there. 

1398
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:15,080
Yeah, what's the point? 
I Ken's I'm I'm so with you, but

1399
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,080
for fun I would love little 
short pat stories. 

1400
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,319
It's just. 100% Strike and Robin
could appear in them. 

1401
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,279
Like after. 
From like after the book series 

1402
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:27,319
like we get to see little 
glimpses of them through Pat 

1403
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:30,640
Fuck. 
We are introduced to dangerous 

1404
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,439
Dick de Lion here. 
Dangerous. 

1405
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,279
Dick. 
Dangerous Dick. 

1406
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:39,720
I love Rob Robin, so sweet and 
innocent thinking he sounds like

1407
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,720
a cartoon character. 
I kind of would have thought the

1408
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,960
same thing in her shoes. 
Oh come on. 

1409
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,800
He sounds like the name of a 
villain from a classic Looney 

1410
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,200
Tunes cartoon who's actually 
like a lion. 

1411
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,279
And what Richard the like 
Richard the Lionheart, but it's 

1412
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,640
a play on it. 
What creepy animator of a 

1413
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,000
children's? 
Creepy animators. 

1414
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,120
That's the classic living tuner 
shit. 

1415
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,920
Like it's a plan. 
Richard the Lionheart, but it's 

1416
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,120
Dick. 
Short for Richard and Dangerous 

1417
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,520
Dick the Lion. 
It's I could see it in my head. 

1418
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,160
OK. 
I don't know. 

1419
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,200
Yeah, man. 
Also too sweet. 

1420
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:17,440
Perhaps. 
You're also. 

1421
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,880
Too sweet. 
Yeah, this, this guy's name just

1422
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,280
screamed porn star to me. 
When Strike says he looked him 

1423
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,680
up, I was thinking, I hope you 
didn't have to look too much up.

1424
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,600
No, he's saving that for his 
sister's. 

1425
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,880
Christmas party, I know. 
Oh God. 

1426
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:37,000
I'm so dreading that. 
Also, just for the record, I 

1427
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:42,360
personally wouldn't want a 
dangerous stick anywhere near my

1428
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:43,760
lady bits. 
No. 

1429
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,760
That makes me think riddled with
STD's. 

1430
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,400
Hard pass. 
It makes me think painful. 

1431
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,160
Not worth the UTI or STI for 
that matter. 

1432
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,240
Or stitches, unless it is with 
Aragorn from the Lord of the 

1433
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,440
Rings theory. 
That's worth the UTI. 

1434
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,600
But yeah, I agree. 
I mean like random, but yeah, 

1435
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,280
100%. 
Wait, I don't know Lord of the 

1436
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:14,640
Rings so I don't understand this
reference but dude. 

1437
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,640
Vigo Mortensen. 
God, as Aragorn was just. 

1438
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,600
I don't know, I don't know 
what's happening this. 

1439
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,040
Is crazy that you've never seen 
Lord of the Rings but. 

1440
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:30,760
Well, I've, I've, I've tried 
multiple times, but I'm so bored

1441
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,080
out of my mind that I just have 
to stop every time. 

1442
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,040
At the same I get to the same 
part every time. 

1443
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,560
And I think, why am I doing it 
to myself? 

1444
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,880
It's the part where the two 
dudes are fighting and they're 

1445
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,440
spinning up a tower and I'm 
just, I don't know what's going 

1446
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:45,960
on. 
I can't focus. 

1447
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:49,920
Why are you? 
Laughing. 

1448
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,960
It's a really funny part to get 
started. 

1449
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,200
I can't pass 'cause you're just 
pretty stupid. 

1450
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,640
But. 
I just can't do it. 

1451
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,560
I'm sorry. 
I'm sorry, Rachel. 

1452
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,120
Specifically 'cause I know I'm 
killing her right now in this. 

1453
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:07,120
You're killing me, you're 
killing me 'cause that's, that's

1454
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,880
crazy. 
I don't want to look up how far 

1455
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,280
into the movie that is because 
I'm going to be outraged. 

1456
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,800
And I can't remember because I 
haven't rewatched it in a while,

1457
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,960
but now I will. 
Just to make up for your lack of

1458
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,560
watching it. 
Chase, we've got a Lord of the 

1459
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,680
Rings marathon coming up. 
Extended Edition. 

1460
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,880
OK, but I don't understand why 
this man would have a dangerous 

1461
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,600
stick. 
Well, I don't either. 

1462
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,120
Because he dirty. 
Oh, he is dirty. 

1463
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,640
He's constantly dirty. 
He could take a bath. 

1464
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,320
Yeah, he could. 
He took a bath up by the end of 

1465
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,080
the movie when he was crowned 
king. 

1466
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,680
Well, yes, after he's crowned 
king, but like 98 percent, 98% 

1467
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,640
of the time, like, the dirt 
really accounts for like, it's 

1468
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,760
carrying a lot of the sex 
appeal, I feel. 

1469
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,880
Like in any case, if there's any
man I'm going to marry in Lord 

1470
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,480
of the Rings, it's going to be 
that one right there. 

1471
01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:57,440
But you can just wash that part 
of him. 

1472
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,200
Yeah, I know. 
Thinking about Aragorn Kens, 

1473
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,840
yeah. 
I'm just imagining like a penis 

1474
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,960
with spikes or something. 
Oh God. 

1475
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,440
Like a like an orc. 
When someone's like, someone's 

1476
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:14,160
like dangerous Dick, I'm like it
has spikes. 

1477
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,800
Yeah, or like ducks with the 
spirals. 

1478
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,560
Oh my. 
Oh gosh. 

1479
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,760
Yeah, I don't like. 
Ducks with the spirals. 

1480
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,520
I'd rather think about Samoanski
MG cooking the potatoes to be 

1481
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:25,360
honest. 
So. 

1482
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:26,880
What? 
You wouldn't get it because 

1483
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,720
you've never seen leather rings.
OK, he's the guy that that 

1484
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,480
travels with the real. 
Treatment he's When you become a

1485
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:35,080
woman, you realize you're like, 
oh, it's Sam. 

1486
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,560
It's always been Sam. 
Where are we? 

1487
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,520
Let's move on from that. 
It really makes me laugh that 

1488
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:47,040
for so long we were thinking 
about Sark and how romantic it 

1489
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,840
was all going to be, and it was 
so beautiful. 

1490
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:55,400
And really, they went there just
because they were tracking down 

1491
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,840
some porn star named Dangerous 
Stick the Lion. 

1492
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,240
Well, it it was still kind of 
romantic in the end. 

1493
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,200
I mean, OK, maybe Robin crying 
to her pasta and getting sauce 

1494
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,520
in her hair isn't romantic per 
SE. 

1495
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,400
Strike getting hit in the face 
and talking to some dude about 

1496
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,880
how large his bits are. 
But her opening up to Strike and

1497
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,080
him being supportive and see is 
still super romantic in my book.

1498
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,880
You know the romance is what you
make of it. 

1499
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,320
Saucy hair, black eyes and all. 
Joe herself has said that Sark 

1500
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,000
is a very important place for 
them in the book, but still, I 

1501
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,040
get what you mean. 
All this build up and it boils 

1502
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,280
down to a guy who didn't realize
there were other career 

1503
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,920
opportunities besides dry 
stonewalling and getting his 

1504
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,560
cock out, which to this day is I
think one of the best lines from

1505
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,560
this. 
Book I don't think that Strike 

1506
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,280
gets enough credit for how 
genuinely hilarious he is when 

1507
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:49,040
they're talking about how the 
note says the note that the 

1508
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,840
woman had left for Strike, the 
one that was in pig pen cipher, 

1509
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,920
remember. 
So the note says the same thing 

1510
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,160
that Shanker had said that this 
guy in the vault was killed by 

1511
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,240
someone on TV and Robin asks how
this woman porn star would have 

1512
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,720
known that Strike and Robin are 
investigating the body in the 

1513
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,200
right. 
So Strike says, and I quote that

1514
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,040
to me is far more interesting 
than the dimensions of dangerous

1515
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,800
dicta lion, which you can look 
up for yourself if you're 

1516
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:18,240
interested. 
Robin just ignores that. 

1517
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,360
She ignores it. 
Not good for her. 

1518
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:28,600
That was hilarious, Robin. 
No, that's funny. 

1519
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,320
And I'm sitting here like, well,
I kind of want to know. 

1520
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,760
Like, come on. 
That's so funny and Robin 

1521
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,720
doesn't even laugh or anything. 
I mean, come on, you can't. 

1522
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,840
Acknowledge that penises exist 
around strike. 

1523
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,240
She can't. 
It's a dangerous Rd. 

1524
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,160
That's a dangerous stick right 
there. 

1525
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,720
Yeah. 
I mean, she doesn't she do like 

1526
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,800
a very similar sort of like 
moving on sort of thing whenever

1527
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,800
she's talking to Valentine and 
it comes up I think sort of 

1528
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,120
deal. 
It's one of those things that if

1529
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,800
you blink, you'll miss it. 
Kind of joke and. 

1530
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,280
It's just so funny. 
It just made me laugh. 

1531
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,040
Does it say specifically in this
arc chapter it dimensions it's? 

1532
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,800
Definitely not little well. 
It's a mystery that must be 

1533
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,160
solved now, because I'm now I'm 
curious. 

1534
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,640
I think if there's only one man 
whose dimensions Robin would be 

1535
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,040
interested in looking up. 
It's not dangerous. 

1536
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,040
Stands on research. 
It wouldn't be a. 

1537
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,760
Dangerous one. 
And it would not be, no. 

1538
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,560
I just thought that was so 
funny. 

1539
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,920
It was a funny joke. 
Barkley would have played along.

1540
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,800
Barkley would have loved it 
strikes. 

1541
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,280
You know he needs his his real, 
his 12 inch tartan audience it. 

1542
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:38,800
Was going to. 
I was going. 

1543
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,840
To say his penis buddy like 
penis joke buddy but that did 

1544
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,760
not I. 
Mean now right that. 

1545
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,240
Didn't sound right at all. 
He needed somebody to laugh in 

1546
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,440
solidarity at his Dick jokes, 
yeah. 

1547
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,440
It was a good one. 
She gotten some of sparkly in 

1548
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:55,360
this dangerous to lie on plot he
would have been. 

1549
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,400
Funny no too. 
Bad. 

1550
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,840
You know, there's a, there's a 
range of of jokes you can make. 

1551
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,480
I feel like we've said the word 
Dick too much. 

1552
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:04,840
And Barkley would have made some
of them. 

1553
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,240
I also feel like Strike kind of 
misses out on an opportunity 

1554
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,960
here because he tells Robin that
they need to take safety 

1555
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,360
precautions more seriously 
because it looks like Shankers 

1556
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,320
warning has validity to it and 
he wants to know where she's at 

1557
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:21,080
at all times. 
Robin asks if she's going to get

1558
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,040
to know where he's at at all 
times, and his response is, if 

1559
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,280
you want, he should have said 
something better. 

1560
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,080
I would have loved something 
flirty. 

1561
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,880
Oh, I know. 
He should have said something 

1562
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,480
like I'd love for you to know 
where I'm at at all times. 

1563
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,520
It's like, oh, if you want to 
know, happy to tell you, Robin. 

1564
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,600
Happy to share, we need it. 
I would have loved flirty 

1565
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,840
strike. 
I need flirty strike like I need

1566
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,560
him to just turn on all 
cylinders. 

1567
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,160
That's his new plan. 
I know. 

1568
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,240
I need. 
Arm bomb, right? 

1569
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,240
He can do it. 
We know he can do it. 

1570
01:17:52,440 --> 01:17:54,520
We know he can. 
So one of the last things in 

1571
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,640
this chapter we have Strike and 
Robin sort of bantering back and

1572
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,440
forth about how Midge and Tasha 
have broken up and the not being

1573
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:04,520
a bastard works too. 
Was so funny. 

1574
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,280
And also pools. 
I'm sending you my sincere 

1575
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,080
condolences at this time. 
I know that your heart is very 

1576
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,280
broken. 
It is, it is, and thank you Cans

1577
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,360
for your thoughts and prayers. 
It really helps. 

1578
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:19,160
It's a trying time for me, but I
have to bravely soldier on and 

1579
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,800
hope that the love of Midge's 
life is just right around the 

1580
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,560
corner. 
It would be so funny if it 

1581
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,320
turned out to be Ellen. 
I'm reading with it and she took

1582
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,600
must be like, guess who doesn't 
have to wish she was with Ellen 

1583
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,680
now? 
You know what? 

1584
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,520
What the hell? 
I'll root for it. 

1585
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,600
Here's to a Midge Ellen game. 
Midge and Tasha's couple name 

1586
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,720
should have been Masha. 
Is Shash and Masha? 

1587
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:45,520
Well that's such a good couple 
name. 

1588
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,160
What a waste. 
I feel like. 

1589
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,000
That's so sad. 
Well, so Mitch and Ellen will be

1590
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,240
Melon. 
Evil Melon. 

1591
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,600
Melon is pretty good. 
Oh yeah. 

1592
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,920
There we go. 
I want to make a melon joke. 

1593
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,560
We named it. 
There we go. 

1594
01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:05,080
We did it, you guys the. 
Face that pools just. 

1595
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,720
Gave me like how you're 
disgusting. 

1596
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,560
Dare you? 
That's the love of her life. 

1597
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:25,160
You're you. 
That was so good. 

1598
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,080
You guys both just got really 
quiet, which is. 

1599
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:29,560
I'm just thinking about Ellen 
now. 

1600
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,680
We don't know anything about I. 
Got to go back and find out more

1601
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:36,320
about Ellen Mitch. 
Always thought she was hot. 

1602
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,720
Wait a minute, didn't her ex 
cheat with Ellen? 

1603
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,120
No her ex didn't cheat with 
Ellen. 

1604
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,200
Her ex wanted to but Ellen 
wouldn't take her back from what

1605
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,120
I hear. 
Because Beth's thing was wait 

1606
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,160
did she hears? 
I can't remember, did she? 

1607
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,400
Cheat I need to know someone 
please look right now in ink 

1608
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,520
black heart. 
OK, I'm looking fuck. 

1609
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,000
Because if she cheated with 
Ellen, then you can't want her 

1610
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,960
to be with Ellen because Ellen's
just going to cheat as well, 

1611
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,800
right? 
Well, if Ellen wasn't in a 

1612
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,080
relationship, Beth might have 
not even told her. 

1613
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:10,040
So Ellen is Beth's ex, right? 
Yes Ellen is Beth's ex but it 

1614
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,160
might not have been with her 
because when she gives her the 

1615
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,280
password she's like Ellen was 
her ex before me, might have 

1616
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,000
been cheating with someone else.
I guess we'll have to look it up

1617
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:18,400
later. 
She. 

1618
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,200
Was unfaithful. 
I don't think she cheated with 

1619
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:24,040
Ellen because it says Ellen was 
her ex before me and that's the 

1620
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,520
first time we mentioned Ellen 
so. 

1621
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,800
I thought it may be a 
possibility. 

1622
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,480
I love that we're discussing the
moral implications. 

1623
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:31,800
Of. 
Whether or not this would be an 

1624
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,400
OK ship to get behind. 
Now I'm going to have to go 

1625
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,360
completely reread Ink Black 
Heart, which I was going to 

1626
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,600
have, no. 
Anyway, what a sacrifice. 

1627
01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:43,120
To really beef up this melon 
ship that I'm. 

1628
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,240
Now the melon ship. 
Full steam ahead. 

1629
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:46,720
Where were we? 
Sure. 

1630
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,120
I was going to make an 
objection. 

1631
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:54,600
Why did I say that? 
Like Chandler, you're like Ace 

1632
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,400
Attorney. 
Ace Attorney. 

1633
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,240
I know what you're talking 
about. 

1634
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,880
It's a game. 
I guess I'll try and say that 

1635
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,880
without sounding like ATV 
character. 

1636
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,200
It was a little Chandler, a 
little Seinfeld it. 

1637
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:09,560
Could cross between the two. 
But The thing is, if I tried to 

1638
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,840
do it like either of them, I 
couldn't do it on purpose. 

1639
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:18,160
You know, the thing about Bitch 
is what's the deal with Midge? 

1640
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,960
Oh my God, I ask myself that all
the time. 

1641
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:29,160
Could she be any more Midge? 
That is a great mix of the two 

1642
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,120
characters. 
That is pretty good. 

1643
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,720
I'm amazed because I rarely 
watch Seinfeld and only 

1644
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,240
sometimes watch Friends. 
Well. 

1645
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,400
You got, you got them both down.
I think something's just become 

1646
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,720
culture in the osmosis, yeah. 
I really want to try and do the 

1647
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:48,520
Seinfeld voice, but I know that 
I can't do it, so I can't. 

1648
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,360
I don't want to try. 
What's the deal? 

1649
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:53,560
I can't do it. 
I can't do it. 

1650
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,360
What's the deal? 
I can't do it. 

1651
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,440
Yeah. 
My objection was just the 

1652
01:21:57,440 --> 01:22:01,400
Strikes own joke about himself, 
because of course I mean 

1653
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,200
obviously I don't think he's a 
bastard to Midge. 

1654
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,880
Yeah, you know, you're right. 
He's not a bastard to her. 

1655
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,240
He's not. 
I think it's an inside joke for 

1656
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:13,760
these two, definitely like a 
humorous exaggeration of of him 

1657
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,760
being the less touchy feely one 
with the staff, you know? 

1658
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,080
I like how you put that in 
quotes because of our previous 

1659
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,400
conversations about touchy 
feely. 

1660
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,120
I'm like in touchy in the. 
Way that I think of as touchy 

1661
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,040
feely. 
He could be that way all he 

1662
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,920
wants. 
Not with Mitch, with Robin. 

1663
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,160
Please. 
Barkley if he wants, I guess. 

1664
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,800
Well, that would be weird. 
Would be the touchy feely thing 

1665
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:44,000
has me thinking back to troubled
blood when, and this is related,

1666
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:49,000
I swear when Morris kept. 
No, we're always on topic and so

1667
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,480
on topic. 
When Morris kept pushing back 

1668
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,520
against what Robin was telling 
him to do and she tried to talk 

1669
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,080
him around by explaining like 
why he's doing it more and 

1670
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,120
pointing out they've all agreed 
on this strike agrees on it, we 

1671
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,600
agreed on it, This is why we're 
doing it, and he still was 

1672
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,200
arguing back. 
Yeah, I mean, he was a bastard 

1673
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,800
though. 
Oh, that is 100% that faster 

1674
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,280
behavior. 
But so Robin is, that's her. 

1675
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,440
She's trying to talk them into 
it. 

1676
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:16,160
Whereas Strike, Strike is just 
going to give instructions and 

1677
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,800
expect them to be followed. 
Yeah. 

1678
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,760
And then he might be a bit 
snappish, you know, the second 

1679
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,320
time he has to give instructions
because someone's arguing back. 

1680
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,280
So, you know, then the joke that
becomes, oh, you're a bastard. 

1681
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,920
Well, that's relatable to me, 
yeah. 

1682
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,440
I mean, maybe I could be the 
TSAF bastard then. 

1683
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,040
You know what? 
I think it kind of works. 

1684
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,640
Yeah, I think it has. 
I think it's a bit catchy. 

1685
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:40,440
OK, But also, Midge is the only 
subcontractor whoever really 

1686
01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:43,560
argues against whatever Strike 
is telling her to do so. 

1687
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,920
Because of that, Strike has 
maybe been a bit snappish with 

1688
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,720
her more often than the others, 
which leads to don't be a 

1689
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,800
bastard to Midge. 
With Robin and Morris, from my 

1690
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,120
perspective, I was thinking, why
is Robin explaining? 

1691
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,320
Snap at him, tell him to shut 
up. 

1692
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,680
You're the boss, right? 
She doesn't owe an explanation 

1693
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,040
to Morris. 
And that's kind of how I see 

1694
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:09,880
striking Mitch. 
She Robin 100% didn't and I had 

1695
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,960
been wishing the whole time that
Robin would channel some of 

1696
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,400
strikes energy that I'm the 
boss, do what I say energy to 

1697
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,880
use on people like Morris and 
Kim because she could, she could

1698
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,360
do with a bit more of because I 
said so. 

1699
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,080
Right. 
She could. 

1700
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,600
She could do with that. 
Big agree. 

1701
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,520
I think that could also be where
maybe we see things differently 

1702
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,560
too because of how we feel about
characters. 

1703
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,920
Yeah. 
What I mean is, since we all 

1704
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,800
dislike Morris and Kim, and 
because they're questioning 

1705
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,360
Robin instead of Strike, the 
pushing back against 

1706
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:50,560
instructions isn't seen as, I 
don't want to say bad because I 

1707
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,560
think that the three of them 
have very different motivations,

1708
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,040
but I think my point is that 
it's fair to feel frustrated 

1709
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,920
with all of them, which is how I
feel. 

1710
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:03,080
Whereas with Midge it feels like
because she's a well liked 

1711
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,120
character and because she's 
pushing back against Strike, 

1712
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,840
it's much easier to see it as 
funny instead of disrespectful 

1713
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,480
like when Morris and Kim did it 
to Robin. 

1714
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,880
But like I said, the motivations
are really different, which is a

1715
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,600
big part of it. 
So Morris only sees Robin as 

1716
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:26,600
good for one thing, Kim. 
She's trying to devalue Robin in

1717
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,560
strike size and get with strike.
Idiot move it's. 

1718
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,920
Really bad strategy. 
Idiot move to say the least. 

1719
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,080
Yeah, you're you're right about 
one of both of their 

1720
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,560
motivations. 
They're really the same thing. 

1721
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,840
Morris is just a straight up 
misogynistic, sexist pig. 

1722
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,920
And Kim too is is she is full of
internalized misogyny and it 

1723
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,360
shines through every interaction
she has with Robin. 

1724
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,320
But let's talk about Midge's 
motivations. 

1725
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,000
I might argue that she's pushing
back with Strike because he's a 

1726
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,000
man. 
I don't know if anyone else gets

1727
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,760
that vibe. 
It's kind of just the vibe I get

1728
01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:02,520
from her. 
She never acts that way with 

1729
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,080
Robin. 
And maybe the counter argument 

1730
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:09,240
is that Robin's the more touchy 
feely one. 

1731
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,160
I'll use it. 
But is that a chicken egg 

1732
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,160
situation? 
What came first? 

1733
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,240
I don't know if that's the case.
Maybe it's just where we have a 

1734
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,360
fundamental difference in how we
see it. 

1735
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,520
Because I think that you'd be 
more likely to be like heck 

1736
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,400
yeah, and I'm not. 
Yeah, I'll admit that 

1737
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,120
possibility. 
Oh, I can. 

1738
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,440
I can't hear that without 
thinking of voice though. 

1739
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,200
I think that's what made me say 
it. 

1740
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,840
I will admit the possibility, 
although I'd I'd have to go 

1741
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:39,480
through and check to see if 
we've ever actually seen Robin 

1742
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:43,040
give Midge any direction that's 
comparable to what Strike has 

1743
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,040
told her to do, right? 
To do something that she 

1744
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,200
disagrees with. 
Because the two incidents that 

1745
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,640
I'm thinking of that are like 
this pushing back thing are the 

1746
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,600
bit with Tasha and the coffee 
and Robin was in the cult there.

1747
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,880
And when Midge and Tasha were 
following the van with Lynn in 

1748
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,120
it when Robin was there. 
But Strike was the one on the 

1749
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,120
phone being like stop following 
his fan right now. 

1750
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,000
That was tense, that. 
Was tense. 

1751
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,640
Has there ever been a situation 
where Robin actually had to tell

1752
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,680
Mitch to do something that that 
Mitch thought was wrong that she

1753
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,000
disagreed with? 
So I don't think so, but I have 

1754
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,440
a theory. 
OK. 

1755
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,720
Although I definitely could use 
a series reread. 

1756
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,360
I mean, I do too. 
Well, I need to go through and I

1757
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,520
need to find all the alchemy 
symbols, so maybe I'll pay 

1758
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,240
attention to this other stuff 
too. 

1759
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:26,760
There's so much to pay attention
to. 

1760
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,080
I should have had a list with 
the things I've said to put a 

1761
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:33,600
pin in and check. 
Wait a minute, wait a minute. 

1762
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,960
You were making a pin list this 
whole time? 

1763
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,760
No? 
Have we not been making a pin 

1764
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,960
list? 
Just putting like a mental pin 

1765
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,520
in it. 
I don't know translate it into a

1766
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,640
list unfortunately. 
That's not good. 

1767
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:50,400
It's not good because what have 
we done in the Can someone like 

1768
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,600
do an AI search through the 
backlogs for put a pin in it? 

1769
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,680
Maybe that would help. 
Is that a thing that we could 

1770
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,440
do? 
If not, then what's the point? 

1771
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,760
Anyway, I have a theory. 
OK. 

1772
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,640
OK so I was going to say 
personally about the Tasha and 

1773
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,360
coffee thing. 
I know I'm strong in my opinion 

1774
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,520
on this so perhaps it colors how
I see it. 

1775
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,040
I do think that Robin would have
agreed with Strike and that 

1776
01:28:14,440 --> 01:28:16,320
possibly Mitch could have blown 
her cover. 

1777
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,240
She should be removed from the 
case just in case that Frank saw

1778
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:24,040
her, but I think that Robin can 
handle conflict with certain 

1779
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,800
people in the agency better than
others. 

1780
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,320
I think it depends on how much 
she likes the person. 

1781
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,400
Yeah. 
Really, how much she doesn't 

1782
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,880
like the person, right? 
If it's someone that she gets 

1783
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:40,000
along with really well, like 
Midge or Barkley, I think her 

1784
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,920
troubles with conflict would be 
an issue. 

1785
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,360
So I think that conflict and 
discipline is something that 

1786
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,800
naturally falls to strike. 
So if she had not been inside 

1787
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,800
the cult, I think she would have
agreed with Strike. 

1788
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,800
That confrontation still would 
have been handled by Strike. 

1789
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,720
Remember when he called to fire 
Little John and he was like, 

1790
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,320
Berkeley would have paid to hear
this. 

1791
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,840
I don't remember what Robin's 
reaction was to the firing. 

1792
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,080
Yeah, let's look that up real 
quick. 

1793
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,040
That's interesting. 
OK, here it is. 

1794
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,360
Fucking excellent, he said. 
Now I can sack Little John hot 

1795
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,720
in here, said Robin. 
No agreed Strike, glancing 

1796
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,200
around. 
Not very discreet. 

1797
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,080
There's a beer garden, let's do 
it there. 

1798
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,960
Is my presence necessary? 
Said Robin, smiling, but she was

1799
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,240
already gathering up her glass, 
peanuts and bag kill Joyce at 

1800
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,680
Strike as they set off to the 
pub. 

1801
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,760
Barclay would have paid good 
money to hear this. 

1802
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,120
So then she does the whole 
firing. 

1803
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,600
He's so funny, treated by Little
John at the end of it. 

1804
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,000
Robin was laughing but shaking 
her head. 

1805
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:39,600
What? 
Said Strike, grinning. 

1806
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,200
It's lucky we haven't got an HR 
department. 

1807
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,440
He's a subcontractor. 
All I owe him is cash, not he's 

1808
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:48,320
getting any cash. 
He could sue you for it. 

1809
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,400
And I could tell the court he 
posted a snake to Tasha Mania's 

1810
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,080
store. 
So she's. 

1811
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,760
I think she's laughing but a 
little uncomfortable. 

1812
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,480
Yeah, she does seem to be a 
little uncomfortable with that. 

1813
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,960
Yeah, more conscious, more 
worried about how they are well,

1814
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:04,920
or like more uncomfortable with 
the conflict. 

1815
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:06,920
I think it's the conflicts and 
the confrontation. 

1816
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:12,040
So the way I see it is where 
some things like being touchy 

1817
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:16,880
feely or handling the emotional 
things like with clients or 

1818
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,800
staff, those things fall to 
Robin. 

1819
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,200
But there are things that 
naturally fall to strike, like 

1820
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,840
being the one to handle more of 
the discipline and conflict with

1821
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:27,760
staff and clients. 
That's a good point. 

1822
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,880
They really are. 
They're playing out the good 

1823
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,520
cop, bad cop every single day. 
They need to switch it up, keep 

1824
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,800
it spicy, see how bad Robin can 
be. 

1825
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,680
Conflict and discipline isn't 
necessarily bad, no. 

1826
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,080
We've definitely talked about 
this as kind of a shortcoming of

1827
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,600
strikes where he's putting 
something on to Robin. 

1828
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:52,040
But it kind of happens in a lot 
of parenting duos too. 

1829
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,680
You know, one person ends up 
with more of the emotional 

1830
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,560
responsibility, the other one 
handles discipline and rules. 

1831
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,320
They both have their challenges,
and I think that they do need to

1832
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,720
work on having more of a balance
with their partnership. 

1833
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,440
But while that emotional weight 
might carry some burden for 

1834
01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:11,560
Robin, I think that Strike also 
has that burden where everyone 

1835
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,880
thinks I'm the bad guy on him. 
I think that I really relate to 

1836
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,880
that in a lot of areas in my 
life. 

1837
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,880
And I think that that's why I 
feel more on Strike side with 

1838
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,600
this kind of thing. 
And so going through all this 

1839
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:28,160
stuff is now turning out to be 
Therapy Edition when I'm 

1840
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,680
thinking through. 
Therapy edition, we need a 

1841
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,120
Jingle. 
Oh, it's like, listen, I listen.

1842
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,800
So you know, I listen to three 
being solid. 

1843
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,480
They have a little funny jingles
for when norm like repetitive 

1844
01:31:39,480 --> 01:31:42,800
talk, but come up like Henry 
Packers glamorous London life or

1845
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,280
digestive tract talk. 
You know, can we put jingles in 

1846
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,720
funny little jingles? 
So yeah, something comes up and 

1847
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,440
it's like so oh, therapy edition
play the therapy edition Jingle.

1848
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:54,400
But one of us would have to be 
able to write jingles or. 

1849
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,600
I'm sure we have talented 
listeners. 

1850
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,920
Somebody help us? 
Out, guys, can someone make us a

1851
01:31:59,960 --> 01:32:03,280
therapy edition Jingle or it 
can't be a strike a sexy Jingle 

1852
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,000
because the episodes will be 
nothing but that. 

1853
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,400
Maybe a strike a sexy bell. 
We should start ringing the 

1854
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,240
strike a sexy bell. 
Yeah. 

1855
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,000
What? 
This podcast needs more the 

1856
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,920
sound effects. 
I just realized. 

1857
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,160
Yeah, like those Radio Stupid 
radio shows. 

1858
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,440
Yeah, the strike a sexy Ding 
Ding. 

1859
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,040
Yeah, that doesn't add any work 
for me at all. 

1860
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:27,520
Never mind. 
No, it's fine. 

1861
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,320
It's fine. 
Fine. 

1862
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,200
Anyway, sorry that was just that
came to my, but going back to 

1863
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,080
what you were actually saying. 
It's not actually that much 

1864
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:39,640
work. 
Good swing. 

1865
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,120
Making more work for Lindsay 
Buzzer. 

1866
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,240
Lindsay, I should be able to 
pronounce your name because it's

1867
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,320
literally my name. 
You should be able to pronounce 

1868
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,360
your own name. 
One would think, right? 

1869
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,120
But no, what you say makes a lot
of sense to me. 

1870
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,280
Although now I'm just thinking 
of Mother Gotham being like, you

1871
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:01,840
want me to be the bad guy? 
OK, so I'm the bad guy. 

1872
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,360
Except she actually was the bad 
guy, so. 

1873
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,880
Now I'm going to be singing 
Mother Knows Best. 

1874
01:33:09,480 --> 01:33:11,880
Yeah, I would like to see Robin 
BI. 

1875
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,520
Want her to in the case like bad
cop. 

1876
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:19,080
I think it would be interesting 
to see her handle conflict with 

1877
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:23,160
Major Barkley. 
I would like to see that too. 

1878
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:26,120
Because it just doesn't feel 
like it's ever going to happen 

1879
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,320
because she I don't feel like 
she could do it right now. 

1880
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:34,960
And that is something that falls
to strike and that is a, it is a

1881
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,480
burden. 
It's hard for the parent. 

1882
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,280
I know that I'm talking about 
them as parents. 

1883
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,400
It is hard for the parent who is
always the one to do the 

1884
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,640
discipline because they feel 
like, you know, they're always 

1885
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,000
the bad one or something 
They're. 

1886
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,280
Never the Disney parent. 
I do enjoy the thought, though, 

1887
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,680
that JK Rowling could be using 
parenting dynamics in how she's 

1888
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,640
writing Strike and Robin 
handling the agency because it 

1889
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,600
it does feel like if you know 
you know kind of thing you can 

1890
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,960
pick up on it the. 
Age of these are literature. 

1891
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,280
Their children. 
Yeah, the agency is their child.

1892
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,240
That kind of is. 
The dynamic is there. 

1893
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:10,600
So going back, I forget where we
were, but I think we're talking 

1894
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,400
about Midge. 
The other thing we're talking 

1895
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,440
about, what's the deal with 
Midge? 

1896
01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:19,280
What's the deal with Midge? 
So the other thing, so we've 

1897
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,760
talked about the pushing back, 
but the other thing you find 

1898
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,440
annoying about Midge is her 
tendency to gossip. 

1899
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,480
Like, I think that's what drives
you really crazy too. 

1900
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:32,200
Well, OK, but The thing is, we 
all love a good cup of tea, 

1901
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:33,840
right? 
Metaphorical tea. 

1902
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,560
Yes. 
Literal tea, I suppose. 

1903
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,520
I will always listen to the tea 
and and sip the tea. 

1904
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,080
But The thing is, yeah, Mitch is
not smart with her tea, OK? 

1905
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,880
She loves the tea. 
Yeah. 

1906
01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:49,000
She loves to sip it. 
She loves to taste it. 

1907
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,080
She loves to spread. 
It for other people have a tea 

1908
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,040
party. 
She's not good at it, OK? 

1909
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,200
She's great at having tea 
parties the way my toddler's 

1910
01:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,680
good at having tea parties. 
But. 

1911
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,720
Abby throws great tea parties. 
Abby loves a tea party. 

1912
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:08,400
She gets the water from the 
fridge, she pours it out, the 

1913
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:12,960
dog comes and drinks it, and 
then she drinks the dog tea. 

1914
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:14,320
Disgusting. 
That's. 

1915
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,720
Germs. 
That's how Midge is. 

1916
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:22,880
She drinks the dog tea. 
OK, because Midge's tea is never

1917
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,200
true. 
Has she ever said one true 

1918
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:25,600
thing? 
I. 

1919
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,400
Can't remember. 
OK, I don't think so. 

1920
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,640
I don't think so. 
And I did did in fact sleep with

1921
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:35,920
her with the tits though. 
OK, that's to. 

1922
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,320
Be fair. 
OK, well first of all, every 

1923
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,320
woman, every woman has had 
those. 

1924
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,960
Sorry, Bee Juice just happened 
to be the fake ones. 

1925
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,600
So noticeable that they're her 
identifier. 

1926
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,840
Yeah. 
But yeah, I can't, I can't 

1927
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:59,640
remember how much of of midges. 
Spoiler alert, I think it's been

1928
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,080
none. 
OK. 

1929
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,400
So it's never true. 
And then she tells the one 

1930
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:09,080
person, either striker Robin, 
that she should not be telling 

1931
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:14,920
and it results in so much pain 
for them and for for me and for 

1932
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,840
us, the Hugh Jacks thing. 
Fact, that was. 

1933
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:20,920
Rough. 
And then it was the opposite 

1934
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,240
with the next time, right? 
Kim. 

1935
01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:26,280
I just feel like we should be 
able to sue either fictional 

1936
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:33,200
characters or their creators for
emotional damage because I think

1937
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:36,560
I can make a pretty good case 
against Midge and or Joe for 

1938
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,840
this one. 
We can sue fictional characters.

1939
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,640
Then you're going to have to get
in line behind me because I have

1940
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:46,680
some charges to lay on a certain
someone and it is a long list. 

1941
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,440
Do you mean JK Rowling? 
No. 

1942
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,760
Oh, I was going to say, we're 
going to have to get in line 

1943
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:55,080
behind Amin Khalif because. 
That would be a pretty long 

1944
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:56,680
wait. 
We're all we're all waiting. 

1945
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,320
We're all waiting on that one. 
By the way, can I brag? 

1946
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,760
She liked your tweet or she 
responded. 

1947
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,040
Let me just say the fan mail 
that I got. 

1948
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,720
Oh, I'm sure it was lovely and 
pleasant. 

1949
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:12,600
I would say a solid 2 weeks. 
It's pretty bad I. 

1950
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,080
I was accused of raping 
children. 

1951
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,080
Wow. 
Yeah. 

1952
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:22,320
Wow, wow wow, I'd have flipped 
my shit. 

1953
01:37:22,440 --> 01:37:25,040
What are you gonna do? 
I was actually quite proud of 

1954
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,560
one response where someone said 
you're just another mentally 

1955
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,120
ill, uninformed turf. 
And I said how dare you? 

1956
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,960
I am not uninformed. 
That was good. 

1957
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,680
That was very pithy. 
Thank you, I enjoy that one 

1958
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,960
anyway, sorry. 
Anyway, yeah, I was thinking 

1959
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,640
that I need to. 
I'm going to sue Mr. Ryan 

1960
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,480
Murphy. 
Oh, OK. 

1961
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:48,920
Charge one unreasonably 
continuing to date strikes wife 

1962
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:51,440
guilty. 
I'm going to add on inciting to 

1963
01:37:51,440 --> 01:37:54,560
house hunt guilty. 
Malicious shushing. 

1964
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,080
Guilty. 
Very, very guilty. 

1965
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:58,240
I need a gavel. 
I need a. 

1966
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,520
Gavel Guilty, Guilty. 
Guilty. 

1967
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,400
You took away all my stuff to 
hit my desk with. 

1968
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:05,200
Sorry. 
The one time I want you to make.

1969
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,520
Noise I need to hit my desk you 
know I have a list of charges 

1970
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,560
tweeted us everyone think what 
we should charge some fictional 

1971
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:15,880
characters with but I'm going to
have to hire Elsa so the gossip 

1972
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:19,480
is it's a different issue than 
the strikes authority thing yeah

1973
01:38:19,480 --> 01:38:22,440
I think in fairness she's she 
doesn't give you a pretty equal 

1974
01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:24,960
opportunity gossip where she's. 
Yes, she does. 

1975
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:26,960
Do it about both of them. 
Yes, she does. 

1976
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,960
Not sure if that's a strength. 
It's not. 

1977
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:33,000
I think what I really need to do
here is is carefully analyze 

1978
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,840
every single one of the the 
midge moments that. 

1979
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:37,280
Moments. 
Gets under. 

1980
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:38,560
Yourself. 
That could be another Jingle. 

1981
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:43,800
For midge moments for patterns 
because we got to have accurate 

1982
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,200
data to base on this on. 
I bet you anything that JK 

1983
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:51,080
Rowling has a file of Midge 
gossips here. 

1984
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,280
She puts this here. 
Midge is going to push back 

1985
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,280
here, yeah. 
I bet Midge is a very useful 

1986
01:38:56,480 --> 01:39:01,720
narrative tool to sow conflict 
and cause discord. 

1987
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:05,280
She's pretty good narrative 
tool, very helpful to Joe. 

1988
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:10,280
I wonder if that changes how a 
writer enjoys a character it. 

1989
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:12,160
Probably. 
Does you know when she says, oh,

1990
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,720
I love Midge? 
Not that she can't just love her

1991
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,120
because I don't love her. 
You know what she. 

1992
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,840
Also loves her cuz she's a very 
easy way to do those. 

1993
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,560
That's what I want, you know? 
Yeah, that's what I'm Yeah, 

1994
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,600
yeah. 
Cuz if you need an inconvenient 

1995
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:27,040
piece of information, spread 
hey. 

1996
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,280
It's. 
My girl coming in clutch. 

1997
01:39:30,440 --> 01:39:33,280
Yeah. 
I'm thinking of the comparison 

1998
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,560
between Midge and other people 
in the agency because I'm 

1999
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:39,760
thinking about Dev's approach to
the strike possibly causing a 

2000
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:43,480
scandal, gossip stuff because he
goes straight to strike in 

2001
01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:47,280
private rather than going to Rob
and the way Midge does to ask. 

2002
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:51,040
That's true, which I like. 
That's good, but of course he 

2003
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,880
also then believes Kim's 
bullshit and is almost ready to 

2004
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:57,560
leave the agency because of it, 
whereas Midge had Kim pretty 

2005
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:59,720
accurately pegged his trouble 
right from the get go. 

2006
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:02,160
That's interesting too. 
Yeah, one of the thing that 

2007
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:07,800
bothers me about Midge believing
gossip over Dev is that she 

2008
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:12,840
seems to believe tabloids, which
is something I find hard to 

2009
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:17,040
respect an adults because. 
How my mind goes straight to Men

2010
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:20,320
in Black, you know, where they 
use the tabloids to find the 

2011
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,280
leads on the alien encounters, 
and that's how they find Edgar. 

2012
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,800
I know Edgar, and that wasn't 
Edgar, you know. 

2013
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,480
But it was true. 
It was founded. 

2014
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,080
Are you talking about Edgar? 
Yeah. 

2015
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:31,320
Because he wasn't. 
Yes. 

2016
01:40:31,480 --> 01:40:33,200
In Men in Black. 
Yeah. 

2017
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,480
Not in real life. 
Well, yeah. 

2018
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,040
There could be a difference 
between like the Daily Mail 

2019
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:41,040
level of stuff and then Weekly 
World News level of stuff. 

2020
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,120
So Daily Mail, some shit that 
they print is that the good 

2021
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,440
newspapers won't print. 
They sometimes they're the only 

2022
01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:50,320
ones reporting on shit that is 
actually happening. 

2023
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,080
The Daily Mail is a terrible 
paper, but they're the only ones

2024
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,640
who will write a story about it 
when like the Independent, 

2025
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,880
wouldn't you know? 
And so sometimes, but most of 

2026
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,320
the time, yes, it's trash. 
I think you just have to use 

2027
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:04,640
discretion when you're an adult.
Use your brain your your 

2028
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,760
thinking thoughts. 
She might lack a little bit of 

2029
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,440
that when it comes to the 
gossip. 

2030
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,920
Yeah, maybe. 
I would love it though if she 

2031
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:16,040
read the tabloids and found an 
alien or Bigfoot or something. 

2032
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,440
Bigfoot. 
I don't think there's big feet 

2033
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:20,000
in. 
In England. 

2034
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,120
Yeah. 
Well, that's a shame. 

2035
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,200
You know where I found Bigfoot 
recently? 

2036
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,120
Where in my iPhone update cuz I 
got a new. 

2037
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,040
Emoji. 
Oh, is there an emoji? 

2038
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,400
Yeah. 
Nice. 

2039
01:41:32,440 --> 01:41:35,080
I bet that's going right to the 
top of your recently used. 

2040
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:40,520
It absolutely didn't what I find
fascinating about Dev. 

2041
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,200
This is interesting because like
you said, Midge was able to 

2042
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,880
clock him right away. 
Cuz she's another woman. 

2043
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,160
Yeah, Women clock him. 
Yeah. 

2044
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:50,560
Although you know, some of the 
men do too. 

2045
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:52,200
Ordle was pretty on the ball 
with her. 

2046
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:59,560
Yeah, but he had experience. 
But I wonder if Dev believed Kim

2047
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,200
or was more willing to believe 
her because she was a police 

2048
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:07,280
officer and he was just willing 
to give her the benefit of the 

2049
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:11,200
doubt because she was ex police.
Kind of like how was Strike 

2050
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,720
where he was more willing to 
give Janice the benefit of the 

2051
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,680
doubt because she was a nice old
lady and a former nurse. 

2052
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:21,920
But then, of course, didn't 
Dev's wife also was reading the 

2053
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,000
tabloids and. 
Yes, and you know what I do 

2054
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,000
generally? 
Like a man who listens to and 

2055
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,520
believes his wife. 
Generally, Unless she's a 

2056
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:34,120
lunatic or mistaken. 
Mistakenly anywhere on that 

2057
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,320
spectrum, yeah. 
So I'm just going to need to 

2058
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,200
talk to Aisha. 
I feel like his wife's name is 

2059
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:41,600
Aisha. 
I think that's right. 

2060
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:43,480
I need to. 
Just set her straight, explain 

2061
01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:46,280
some things so that she can then
steer Dev in the right 

2062
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,160
direction, and that will solve 
everything and the universe will

2063
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:50,600
be restored to its natural 
order. 

2064
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:54,080
There does seem to maybe a lot 
of people that I I feel like if 

2065
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:59,480
they could just get to know him.
To know him, just understand, 

2066
01:42:59,480 --> 01:43:02,280
but in this case. 
It's true, like Linda and Dev's 

2067
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,640
wife, you know. 
Oh, I do really want to read 

2068
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:10,520
about Dev explaining to his wife
that it's not true and how that 

2069
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,480
went. 
Oh, I'd love to see these little

2070
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:15,280
side conversations. 
I want to see Deb's wife. 

2071
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:17,800
I want to see Barclays wife big 
time. 

2072
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,040
I'm so curious about her too. 
I know. 

2073
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:24,400
I bet that as far as this whole 
conversation goes with Barclay, 

2074
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:28,160
I bet he if she ever brought 
that up, I bet it would be like.

2075
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:29,880
Oh, he'd tell her the facts, 
because he has. 

2076
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:30,600
Facts, right? 
He's an. 

2077
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,640
Astute man, he can see the 
facts. 

2078
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:34,640
Barclays has a good read on 
people. 

2079
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:38,480
I have a feeling that he and his
wife would kind of be like, on 

2080
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:41,360
the same page. 
I feel like they'd just be like,

2081
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:42,680
oh, yeah, definitely. 
I don't know. 

2082
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:44,400
I don't know because we haven't 
met her. 

2083
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:45,240
We don't. 
I know. 

2084
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:47,640
Like she has a mother. 
She has a mother. 

2085
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,440
That's all we know. 
I want more about her. 

2086
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,480
Yeah, Barkley has. 
Of all the subcontractors, I 

2087
01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:54,120
think he has the best read on 
people. 

2088
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:55,360
Oh, yeah. 
He's the best judge of 

2089
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:56,000
character. 
Well. 

2090
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,000
We know that from his background
too, yeah. 

2091
01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:01,520
Yeah, I love Barkley. 
Yeah, he's the OG. 

2092
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,360
He really is. 
He's the OG and he's love him, 

2093
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,040
he's good. 
He's so good. 

2094
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:09,400
OK, OK, except for his 
inconvenient shellfish allergy. 

2095
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:14,400
That would be terrible to have 
because I really love, I really 

2096
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,920
love some shrimp. 
I love me some shrimp. 

2097
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:21,520
I'm just thinking out of all 
possible, you know, emergencies 

2098
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,200
that JK Rowling gave that one to
Barkley. 

2099
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,280
I know she's sitting there 
laughing as she's doing it to 

2100
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:30,400
Barkley. 
I don't think it bothers him 

2101
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,960
that much that that's happened 
to him in public or something. 

2102
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,480
No it wouldn't. 
I just poor him not being able 

2103
01:44:35,480 --> 01:44:38,400
to eat shrimp. 
I might die and never come back 

2104
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,360
outside. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2105
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:41,480
That's. 
Likely for myself as. 

2106
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:46,040
Well, yeah. 
I'd be upset about the shrampy. 

2107
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:47,960
I'd be upset. 
I really, I'm OK. 

2108
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:49,400
I think I'm hungry. 
OK. 

2109
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,120
Yeah, yeah, just. 
Hungry. 

2110
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,440
Let's move on. 
OK, I well can we move on, but 

2111
01:44:55,440 --> 01:44:57,560
not because I want to go back 
to. 

2112
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,280
Circle back. 
Let's circle back. 

2113
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:03,560
Yeah, I guess I feel frustrated 
sometimes with her overall 

2114
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:09,160
behavior, just you know, her in 
general because I feel like 

2115
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:14,560
Strikes reaction sometimes feels
calm to how I'm feeling. 

2116
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,360
I think I would have a bigger 
reaction. 

2117
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,680
Imagine if I'm doing voice 
notes. 

2118
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:24,360
If Midge does something that 
annoys me, that's what we should

2119
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,640
do next time. 
Make sure you do the voice notes

2120
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:28,920
then, yeah? 
Yeah. 

2121
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:31,160
I need to take more voice notes 
next time because those are 

2122
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,240
hilarious. 
So I think that's what I find 

2123
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,880
confusing because I think that 
if this was real life and like, 

2124
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,760
let's say that I worked at the 
agency. 

2125
01:45:39,480 --> 01:45:40,440
Let's just say. 
Let's just. 

2126
01:45:40,440 --> 01:45:41,360
Pretend. 
Just pretend. 

2127
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:42,800
Let's. 
Just like pretend a bit. 

2128
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,080
I think she'd get under my skin.
I don't think that I'd be as 

2129
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,440
patient as he sometimes is, you 
know? 

2130
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,160
So even when he's joking about 
being a bastard, I'm like, 

2131
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:53,640
really? 
Because I think that. 

2132
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,360
Strangled her by now. 
I know I think that Robin would 

2133
01:45:56,360 --> 01:46:01,280
be calling me being hey, don't 
don't be a you know what, just 

2134
01:46:01,480 --> 01:46:03,280
let her. 
She just broke up, don't you 

2135
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,240
know? 
Yeah, and like I don't one of 

2136
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,240
you you are Ken's one of you 
guys said I was like her. 

2137
01:46:09,480 --> 01:46:11,200
I just want to everyone. 
To. 

2138
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,760
Forget that I can flashy thing 
all of you. 

2139
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:15,280
That's so funny because you know
what? 

2140
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:17,320
I don't think Mitch would bug me
at all. 

2141
01:46:17,480 --> 01:46:20,680
Like I don't think she would. 
I don't know she just she 

2142
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,680
wouldn't bug me. 
I love her like even she's 

2143
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:27,000
stubborn, she's difficult, she's
gossiping, she's wrong. 

2144
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:28,320
I don't care. 
I love it. 

2145
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,400
I I like her. 
I don't know why. 

2146
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:32,320
Okay. 
I think I'm always cheering her 

2147
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:34,960
on because she's cathartic 
release. 

2148
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:39,280
She's an embodiment of like my 
inner mage, the defiant, 

2149
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:43,080
difficult, gives no fucks, 
stubborn like voice that they 

2150
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,440
have to keep quiet, like to get 
along with people. 

2151
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:49,080
My just repressed Mitch. 
Do I just love her because like 

2152
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,960
she's openly the person I wish I
could be. 

2153
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:55,800
Like she's the voice in my head 
that I don't actually give voice

2154
01:46:55,800 --> 01:47:00,080
to because I'm I'm it's rude to 
tell people you know these 

2155
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:01,240
things. 
I don't know. 

2156
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,040
I can see you saying things and 
be like, Oh no, don't say that 

2157
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:10,120
because it sounds. 
A lot of stuff I don't say, like

2158
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:12,840
there's a lot of stuff that goes
through my head that I do not 

2159
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,400
say. 
I think that's normal, yeah. 

2160
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:17,800
Possibly. 
I don't see you like Midge at 

2161
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,680
all because you're, you know, 
fun. 

2162
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,920
It's. 
Going to be fun. 

2163
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,000
I'd have to go out on a girls 
night with her and Pat and Robin

2164
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,520
to confirm if she'd be fun. 
But I'm willing to take that 

2165
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,400
bullet and do that to test the 
theory you. 

2166
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,320
You just said that your inner 
midge is the voice you keep 

2167
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:38,160
quiet in order to get along with
people. 

2168
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,400
Yeah, Hence. 
OK. 

2169
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:46,160
I said hence like really waiting
for you to hence for you to say.

2170
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,960
What was I going to? 
Everyone listening is screaming 

2171
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:51,320
it. 
They're screaming. 

2172
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,880
It perfect 'cause I'm. 
Hence, hence. 

2173
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,800
Hence I don't know what I'm 
supposed to say. 

2174
01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:59,800
Wind strike says hence to 
Shanker. 

2175
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,240
Oh, hence your fucking hence. 
Yeah, I forgot. 

2176
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:05,160
I forgot what Shanker said. 
Oh, I totally forgot. 

2177
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,760
That's OK. 
Fuck your fucking hence, God 

2178
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:09,880
damn it. 
Yeah, OK, I'm like, what do you 

2179
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,440
want me to say? 
Just tell me what you want me to

2180
01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:15,000
say and I'll say. 
It I'm just like pausing, 

2181
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,520
waiting. 
Now I forget what I was saying. 

2182
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:24,440
You said it's the voice you keep
quiet to get along with people, 

2183
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:28,800
meaning heads bitch wouldn't get
along with people right? 

2184
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:31,040
So how is? 
She clever girl. 

2185
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:33,240
I walked right into your trap 
there, didn't I? 

2186
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:34,840
I can't even remember at this 
point. 

2187
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,680
I don't know where we are or 
what we're talking about, but I 

2188
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:39,800
think you just trapped me 
somehow. 

2189
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,800
No one knows what's happening 
anymore. 

2190
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:43,960
No, I think we're really lost. 
Yeah. 

2191
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,640
Apparently Ken supervises us a 
bit more than this. 

2192
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:50,360
If no one's noticed, we lost 
Ken's due to some illness right 

2193
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,760
now and we apparently need 
supervision. 

2194
01:48:55,640 --> 01:49:02,720
I completely lost the thread. 
Oh my God. 

2195
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,760
OK, Yeah. 
I was going to say I think you 

2196
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:10,080
can achieve difficult and 
stubborn women in certain 

2197
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:14,800
circumstances when necessary, 
which is why I think one of you 

2198
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,120
traitors called the image. 
Did we? 

2199
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,080
Yeah. 
Yeah, when we did the whole like

2200
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,360
what characters are you like 
thing and one of you guys said I

2201
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,080
was Midge. 
Oh yeah, maybe we were just 

2202
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:24,480
trolling you. 
I don't know. 

2203
01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:27,680
Didn't Ken tell you? 
Ken's told me one that was 

2204
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:28,880
really. 
Jasmine. 

2205
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:33,640
No, she said. 
It was Katherine Kent, and I 

2206
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:37,720
feel like that was way meaner. 
So like. 

2207
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:41,680
I forgot about that trauma. 
Yeah, so like you being called 

2208
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,160
Mitch? 
She called me Katherine Kent. 

2209
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:48,280
At least it wasn't Yasmine. 
I'd have genuinely lost my shit 

2210
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:54,200
if someone said I was like 
Jasmine so I'm enraged at the 

2211
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,880
thought of it. 
Well, I was going to say one of 

2212
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,240
you called me that because I 
think I've told you stories of 

2213
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:04,240
when I spoke up to my boss or 
stood up to him when it was 

2214
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,680
justified. 
I think the argument I'd make 

2215
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,600
here though, is that Rich does 
think it's justified. 

2216
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:11,960
She does feel like she's doing 
the right thing. 

2217
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:16,080
Especially I'm thinking about 
one time when she and Tasha were

2218
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:19,600
following Lynn in the car. 
She thought the situation. 

2219
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:22,200
She would have thought that 
losing Lynn could, You know, 

2220
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,560
Lynn could die. 
Lynn could be permanently 

2221
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:25,600
disappeared. 
Strike it. 

2222
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,160
Worried about the same thing 
with Robin, right? 

2223
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,840
I argue that in that one she was
fighting for what she believed 

2224
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,160
was right. 
Like she has to keep this man 

2225
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,080
insight so they don't lose this 
really vulnerable teenage girl. 

2226
01:50:36,440 --> 01:50:39,880
You know, Ultimately, of course,
Strike did turn out to be right 

2227
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:44,000
and his argument about Tasha 
being a civilian and also that 

2228
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,320
the car was very noticeable. 
It was true. 

2229
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:51,600
And I do know it's Strike and 
Robin and their agency that face

2230
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:53,200
the fallout if that got fucked 
up. 

2231
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:56,120
But in that moment with the 
adrenaline going, I don't want 

2232
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,400
to fight back to keep following 
Lynn too. 

2233
01:50:58,400 --> 01:50:59,800
Like I'd have done the same 
thing. 

2234
01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:02,560
I get that one. 
And yeah, as much as it's music 

2235
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,360
to my ears to hear you say 
Strike is right, I. 

2236
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,440
Love saying Strike is right. 
He strikes right about so many 

2237
01:51:08,440 --> 01:51:10,680
things. 
How pretty Robin is. 

2238
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,520
What a good detective Robin is. 
How much he hates Matthew and. 

2239
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:19,720
Yes, fucking Ryan fucking. 
I was supposed to say Ryan 

2240
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:23,440
fucking Cunliffe. 
Whatever, just a mix of other. 

2241
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:26,040
Mix it up, it doesn't matter so.
Many things strikes right about.

2242
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,720
I do get that one, obviously. 
I think Strike cared about 

2243
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,000
saving Lynn too. 
Has the weight of the agency on 

2244
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:32,600
him. 
But he does carry that weight. 

2245
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,160
He does carry that follow. 
I can't remember the other time 

2246
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,800
she's argued with Strike. 
Like the thing with Tash and the

2247
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:39,640
coffee, she's feeling really 
defensive. 

2248
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:43,200
She did apologize to him later. 
I feel like they have a similar 

2249
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:46,480
like they apologize to each 
other grudgingly funnily and it 

2250
01:51:46,480 --> 01:51:48,480
like turns out OK. 
I don't know. 

2251
01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:51,840
Are there any moments that I'm 
forgetting where the stuff has 

2252
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,240
happened? 
You're asking the wrong person 

2253
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:56,160
because like I said, I need to 
reread too. 

2254
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:57,640
I know I need to reread, but 
yeah. 

2255
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:02,400
I think if we were to go over 
everything, we'd be here longer 

2256
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,120
than we've already been on. 
Oh. 

2257
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:05,880
My God. 
Yeah, we've already. 

2258
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:12,520
For me, I guess it's just like, 
it's all of this together. 

2259
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:16,080
It's that it's the gossiping. 
It's really empathizing with 

2260
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,480
Strike about being the one who 
handles the conflict and then 

2261
01:52:19,480 --> 01:52:22,680
labeled bad guy for it. 
Yeah, Midge is just the 

2262
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,720
character who pushes my buttons 
for those reasons. 

2263
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:30,600
But what I love about these 
kinds of conversations, and the 

2264
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:34,720
books in general, is that JK 
Rowling is so good at writing 

2265
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,920
human behavior. 
So good, yeah. 

2266
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:39,480
That there are things that we've
been defending in these 

2267
01:52:39,480 --> 01:52:42,320
characters because we see them 
in ourselves. 

2268
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:46,920
But for me, I just realized them
as we're sitting here talking 

2269
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,800
about them, the specifics of it.
Yeah. 

2270
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:51,640
But we've been reading these 
books for years. 

2271
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:56,600
It's why the series feels so 
rich, why it never gets boring, 

2272
01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,920
because there's so much realness
and humanity in the tiny 

2273
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,080
details. 
It's why when I start to read 

2274
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,920
other books, I get so they're. 
Just not as good. 

2275
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:09,520
Bored and just disappointed 
because there's not, they're not

2276
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:11,080
real. 
They don't feel like real 

2277
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:15,720
people, you know? 
I love how I can learn about 

2278
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,240
myself while doing these kinds 
of discussions and do the 

2279
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,560
therapy edition. 
Insert Jingle here. 

2280
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:26,280
Therapy Edition. 
We're going deep, deep, deep 

2281
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,320
into our psyches. 
Oh my gosh. 

2282
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:35,400
Some fuck up stuff up here 
because it's Therapy Edition. 

2283
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,520
Hey, that was really good. 
Like am I crazy? 

2284
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:43,080
That was great. 
So save that clip, OK? 

2285
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:46,160
And then just insert it like 
whenever so I don't have to 

2286
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:48,160
remember what it was because I'm
never going to be able to 

2287
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:51,640
reproduce that well. 
But yeah, it's why we die on the

2288
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:53,840
hills we die on. 
But sometimes we don't even 

2289
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,720
realize why we're doing it. 
This is so true. 

2290
01:53:56,760 --> 01:54:00,080
Joe is just excellent at writing
people as people with strengths 

2291
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:02,640
and their flaws and their 
individuality. 

2292
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:06,120
I also really love, and this is 
basically the same thing, but 

2293
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:09,520
the gradual way she's built up 
this group of people, the 

2294
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:14,080
agency, because the ones who 
have stuck around like Midge and

2295
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:17,800
Barkley and Dev and Pat, they 
might have their flaws to a 

2296
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:19,160
greater or lesser extent. 
Not Pat. 

2297
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,080
That's perfect. 
I was just gonna say Pat has no 

2298
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:22,000
flaws. 
What he's talking about. 

2299
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,880
They might occasionally clash 
with each other, with Strike, 

2300
01:54:26,440 --> 01:54:30,760
with Robin, whatever, but each 
of them have these same 

2301
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:35,200
portraits of all of them. 
Competency, dedication, and 

2302
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,920
caring about justice. 
They all care about the right 

2303
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,120
things, even if some of them 
fuck up sometimes. 

2304
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:43,000
But the shitheads like Morris 
and Little John and Kim, who 

2305
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:47,600
don't have that compass, that 
center, they got cut loose and 

2306
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,880
they've winnowed them down so 
that now they have an agency 

2307
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:53,120
that reflects their fundamental 
values, Robin and Strike. 

2308
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:54,800
I agree, really. 
Great. 

2309
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,400
That is the thing I will 
absolutely give you about Mitch.

2310
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:01,000
She is not a bad person. 
She cares about justice, she's 

2311
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:04,400
reliable, she's brave, she's 
good for the agency. 

2312
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:07,160
She's all of those things that 
you said. 

2313
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,320
She just drives. 
Also subordinate and gossipy, 

2314
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:12,840
Yeah. 
She just drives me nuts with her

2315
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:15,280
personality. 
Yeah, but she's all of those 

2316
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:16,080
good things. 
She is. 

2317
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:20,840
So yes, I, I give you that. 
And now I'm thinking, OK, Pat's 

2318
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,920
one flaw, because I was thinking
as you were talking. 

2319
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:25,320
Pat flaw. 
Well, the. 

2320
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:30,600
One thing that I think is coming
to any handsome men liking 

2321
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,440
handsome men, Yeah, that's 
ending soon. 

2322
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:38,000
She's learned with Morris. 
Yes, but what if Murphy shows up

2323
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:38,880
at the office? 
God. 

2324
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:43,280
I hope so. 
Angry at Robin or something and 

2325
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:45,680
Pat has to step in or something 
to defend. 

2326
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:49,080
That's the nail in the coffin. 
Watch the Some handsome man is 

2327
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,840
going to show show up and Strike
is going to notice Pat is really

2328
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,040
short with him. 
She's like I finally figured out

2329
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:56,760
I'm in the JK Rowling novel and 
all of the beautiful people are 

2330
01:55:56,760 --> 01:56:00,000
Dick heads. 
But then but then he's going to 

2331
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:03,120
leave and she's going to make 
some sort of comment to Strike 

2332
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:06,240
about these handsome men, 
whatever think that they could 

2333
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:07,480
just do. 
Yeah. 

2334
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,520
And then Strike is going to be 
like, oh, Patch changed her too.

2335
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:14,000
You know, it's, I feel like 
we're going to see, to know that

2336
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:15,240
you're going to see something 
like that. 

2337
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:19,000
It's going to be so funny. 
And even when you're nearing 70,

2338
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:20,800
you can still grow. 
You. 

2339
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:21,840
Absolutely. 
That's nice. 

2340
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,040
You might be getting a little 
shorter, but you can mature. 

2341
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,400
Grow internally? 
Yeah, I'd love to see that. 

2342
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:31,960
Anyway, back to the chapter, I 
guess. 

2343
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,200
Were we reading a chapter? 
Was there a chapter? 

2344
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:36,840
I think that we are technically 
in a chapter. 

2345
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:41,600
We just had the longest side. 
Longest aggression because Ken's

2346
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:44,160
got sick, but going back I think
we are actually. 

2347
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:47,040
At the end of the chapter. 
At the end of this chapter, so 

2348
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:51,640
Robin is just about to tell 
Strike about Sapphire and the 

2349
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:54,920
information she's found was she 
has to cut the call short 

2350
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,400
because guess who's walking back
towards her? 

2351
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,560
Fucking Ryan Murphy, 
unfortunately. 

2352
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:05,440
And Sapphire, as it turns out, 
is really, really important. 

2353
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:07,600
But he interrupts that. 
I think it's a moment that 

2354
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:10,880
clearly symbolizes the way 
Murphy has become an obstacle to

2355
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:13,320
Robin in terms of the agency's 
investigations. 

2356
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:17,760
He's literally job blocking her 
job blocking that's that's. 

2357
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:20,720
Multiple counts. 
Multiple counts of job blocking.

2358
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,920
So it's funny that you say that 
Sapphire turns out to be very 

2359
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:25,520
important because of course 
you're right. 

2360
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:28,640
But I'm also positive that her 
name being Sapphire is 

2361
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:30,640
significant. 
I'm positive. 

2362
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:35,040
I'm not sure if I know exactly 
why yet, but I'm positive she 

2363
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,280
didn't just be like, oh, I'll 
name her Sapphire out of 

2364
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,160
nowhere. 
Sapphire is not a common name. 

2365
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:43,800
A blue gemstone. 
We have a blue connection with 

2366
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,600
alchemy. 
We have Robin sapphire ring. 

2367
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:48,760
Sapphires come in other colors, 
you know. 

2368
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:52,360
In fact, I think they come in 
every single color except for 

2369
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:54,480
red. 
The crystal structure, like the 

2370
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:58,480
crystal makeup of sapphires and 
rubies are they're technically 

2371
01:57:58,480 --> 01:57:59,720
the same stone. 
Right. 

2372
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:03,320
So then they come in every color
except for red, because then it 

2373
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,000
would be a. 
Ruby. 

2374
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:09,280
So we have Sapphire who's name 
is Sapphire, but then we have 

2375
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,000
that Ruby necklace Pools who had
the Ruby necklace. 

2376
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:18,400
Sophia but also Sapphire also 
told her friend that her 

2377
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:22,280
boyfriend gave her a Ruby 
necklace and then Tia said 

2378
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,240
Ruby's it was just beads. 
My auntie's got a Ruby ring. 

2379
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,120
I know the difference. 
So Griff's is giving out fake 

2380
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:30,000
Ruby necklaces to all these 
girls. 

2381
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,840
Sophia and Sapphire both. 
OK. 

2382
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:37,400
And then wasn't there something 
that Yolanda slash Chloe they 

2383
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:41,600
had? 
Yolanda slash Chloe had the 

2384
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:47,760
purple bracelet that Tyler gave 
her and it was how Robin figured

2385
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:51,040
out her name was actually 
Yolanda because her name meaning

2386
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,080
purple. 
So basically what I'm saying is 

2387
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:56,600
we have the name Sapphire Fake 
rubies. 

2388
01:58:56,840 --> 01:59:00,960
I don't know if the purple was a
gemstone, but you know, I think.

2389
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:05,200
It was, but yeah, interesting. 
I don't know, I we definitely, I

2390
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:07,400
definitely want to look more 
into this as far as how it 

2391
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:09,760
connects with. 
I was just thinking stones. 

2392
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:13,480
In the same chapter that Robin 
finds the valuable silver, 

2393
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:17,680
Strike finds gem sapphire hidden
in the different basement like 

2394
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:20,440
they're both mining, right? 
You find a silver, you find a 

2395
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:22,320
gem. 
I like that, yeah. 

2396
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:25,400
Although, and it might be a 
total coincidence here, but 

2397
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:29,640
Queen Elizabeth, the second 
Sapphire Jubilee 65 years, was 

2398
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:33,400
in 2017 and that's this same 
year. 

2399
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:38,000
I really don't like that Matthew
gave Robin a sapphire ring 

2400
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:40,840
because it's my it's. 
Our He stole it. 

2401
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,840
He stole it. 
I love sapphires, it's my 

2402
01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,440
favorite color. 
Your it's your birthstone too, 

2403
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:47,480
right? 
It's our birthstone. 

2404
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:49,560
It's our birthstone. 
I love the sapphires. 

2405
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:52,440
It's very rude. 
I love a sapphire ring but I 

2406
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,800
feel like it's tainted. 
I don't like it. 

2407
01:59:55,880 --> 02:00:00,920
It's freaking Matthew. 
Also my mind does go to 

2408
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:03,840
sapphires and rubies now if 
they're not opposite. 

2409
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,880
But a sapphire can be everything
except a Ruby. 

2410
02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:11,360
If she had a sapphire ring with 
Matthew, maybe Strike would get 

2411
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:15,040
her Ruby does red. 
What does red mean in alchemy 

2412
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:16,320
again? 
I feel like I should just know 

2413
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:17,240
this red. 
Is. 

2414
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:20,600
The is the final. 
Yeah, the final like the red is 

2415
02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:23,160
the Ruby. 
Could be like the final, could 

2416
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:25,320
be. 
It's interesting that the name 

2417
02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:29,960
Sapphire pops up in the same 
book as a second engagement ring

2418
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:31,920
that's bought for Robin does. 
Right? 

2419
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:33,640
Because that first thing was 
sapphires. 

2420
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:37,480
She is constantly trying to tell
herself that Ryan isn't Matthew,

2421
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:40,720
but that relationship is just as
wrong for her, right? 

2422
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:46,080
The tiny diamond is as wrong. 
Tiny emphasizing is as wrong as 

2423
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:50,360
the sapphires were Sapphires 
trapped in this book and Strike 

2424
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:53,880
rescues her. 
The diamond is a trap and strike

2425
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:56,200
will come again to the rescue. 
I don't know, this might not be 

2426
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:57,760
making any sense. 
You know what? 

2427
02:00:58,160 --> 02:00:59,480
I don't care. 
I love it. 

2428
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:00,520
Yeah. 
Sure. 

2429
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:02,640
Doesn't matter. 
But I don't know if Strike will 

2430
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:05,120
get her a Ruby. 
I don't know what his ring will 

2431
02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:06,560
be. 
Can I say Will? 

2432
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:08,960
Because that man is definitely 
going to put a ring on her 

2433
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:10,200
finger. 
He's waiting too long. 

2434
02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:12,280
Possibly with 2 stones. 
Yes. 

2435
02:01:12,680 --> 02:01:15,640
Unless that's happens to be the 
has to do with the case. 

2436
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:17,440
But yeah, obviously of course he
will. 

2437
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:21,000
We've heard so much about him 
not buying Charlotte a ring and 

2438
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:23,800
all of that. 
For him to not buy a ring right 

2439
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:26,160
away. 
I still think that it's likely 

2440
02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:28,960
that he's going to buy a ring 
before she even leaves Murphy, 

2441
02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:31,080
just to prove he's serious. 
I would. 

2442
02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:34,000
I would love that so much. 
Yeah, and all the things, all 

2443
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:36,280
the things that I said about 
Murphy being crazy for buying a 

2444
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:39,360
ring, not even discussing it 
with Robin will not count. 

2445
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:41,280
Totally different situation. 
Yeah. 

2446
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:44,200
Deep down, Strike and Robin know
they love each other and that 

2447
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:47,040
it's right Murphy's delusional, 
while Strike is romantic. 

2448
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,320
And Strike did discuss it with 
Robin. 

2449
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:54,160
Sure. 
They had a discussion, it was 

2450
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:57,920
discussed, so it won't be a 
total surprise. 

2451
02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:00,080
No, totally, totally different 
situation. 

2452
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:02,280
Totally sane and normal 
situation. 

2453
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:04,120
Yeah, well, that's the end of 
the chapter. 

2454
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:06,360
Yeah, so we've done 1 chapter. 
Oh. 

2455
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:08,720
My God. 
We've done 1 chapter and by the 

2456
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:12,360
way, OK, so this episode, by the
way, this episode is a real 

2457
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,760
craft project, guys. 
It's it's a it's the curse 

2458
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:17,920
episode. 
We've recorded this three 

2459
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:20,640
separate times. 
Not, not the whole thing. 

2460
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:24,160
It's a cut and paste. 
It took it took three different 

2461
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:25,400
tries. 
It's a cut and paste. 

2462
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:26,760
Lots of different things 
happened. 

2463
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:31,320
Like we said, Ken's is sick 
right now. 

2464
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:35,240
So what we're going to do at the
beginning, it says we're doing 

2465
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:38,240
chapters 27 and 28. 
That's not happening because 

2466
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:41,120
Ken's got sick and we need her 
for chapter 28. 

2467
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:44,480
So what we're going to do is 
that the partner shot that we 

2468
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:47,720
recorded at the beginning of the
episode, God knows how many 

2469
02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:52,320
weeks ago at this point, because
like I said, we've recorded 

2470
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:53,960
three separate. 
Occasion. 

2471
02:02:53,960 --> 02:03:02,320
It's been difficult in 84 years.
I don't even remember when I cut

2472
02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,600
it, when I paste it all 
together, and if it sounds like 

2473
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:09,040
it all flows and makes sense, 
it'll be a huge success. 

2474
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:11,000
I think it'll go great. 
Well, we'll see. 

2475
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:13,320
I think it'll be super. 
So what we're going to do is 

2476
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:16,720
we're going to cut the partners 
chat that we recorded a long 

2477
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:19,840
time ago and we're going to put 
it right here at the end. 

2478
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:21,800
So Kenz will miraculously be 
back. 

2479
02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:23,200
She'll. 
Be back and she won't be sick 

2480
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:26,000
anymore. 
And so that that partners chat 

2481
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:28,880
was supposed to go at the end of
episode 15, which will be the 

2482
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:31,400
next episode, but we're going to
put it here instead and we're 

2483
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:36,320
going to move chapter 28 to our 
next recording so that Kenz can 

2484
02:03:36,320 --> 02:03:40,040
be back for that. 
So otherwise we'd have to delay 

2485
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:43,040
again putting out an episode and
we don't want to do that. 

2486
02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:47,680
A1 chapter episode is a new low 
for us I think and it's such a 

2487
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:54,640
random chapter I can see doing a
whole episode on like chapter 

2488
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:56,280
127. 
Right. 

2489
02:03:56,280 --> 02:04:00,880
No like. 
In chapter 27 look at the house,

2490
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:05,160
it's like 6. 
Pages long except for that I 

2491
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:08,480
just looked at our multiple 
recordings because I have them 

2492
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:11,760
in separate files. 
So we have one Audacity file 

2493
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:14,320
that's 45 minutes long after 
it's been edited. 

2494
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,520
Another Audacity file that's 30 
minutes long. 

2495
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:18,160
Oh. 
My God. 

2496
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:21,080
And then this, which has now 
been two hours long. 

2497
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:24,880
Oh my God, so somehow we've 
talked for an hour and 15 

2498
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:27,520
minutes already. 
What did we talk about? 

2499
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:30,440
Who even knows at this point 
because it's literally been like

2500
02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:33,120
a month since we recorded the 
first part of this. 

2501
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:37,040
Oh, Bluetooth I believe was a 
significant chunk. 

2502
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:38,800
Bluetooth. 
We talked. 

2503
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:40,440
How is that interesting? 
Murphy's car. 

2504
02:04:41,080 --> 02:04:45,480
Oh, oh, that was fun, Yeah. 
That was Dillis. 

2505
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:49,120
Dillis Powell. 
OK, I remember that. 

2506
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:51,880
Well, have fun. 
Sorry about the delay. 

2507
02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:54,440
We should do a partners chat 
because I don't think we've done

2508
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:57,520
one the last two recordings. 
I think we've been lacking. 

2509
02:04:57,880 --> 02:05:00,680
OK. 
Either people are happy about it

2510
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:06,600
or riots, one of the two, no in 
between. 

2511
02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:11,120
Sorry, I was just filling out a 
thing and again, I'm trying to 

2512
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:14,520
get a deep clean service for 
what? 

2513
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:16,960
For my house because I fucking 
hate cleaning. 

2514
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:19,480
And I'm like, I'm at the point 
where I'm like, you know what? 

2515
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:24,000
I can budget in a recurring 
cleaning service, so why don't I

2516
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,560
just fucking do it? 
See, I don't know if I want 

2517
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:29,640
people in my house cleaning it. 
Well then I would feel like I 

2518
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:32,560
would need to clean my house to 
let people come in and clean my 

2519
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:34,400
house. 
I do feel like it's going to 

2520
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:38,080
motivate me every other week to 
go around and tidy and like make

2521
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:40,720
sure it's clean enough to clean 
and they need that motivation. 

2522
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:43,480
OK. 
So that's part of it. 

2523
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:47,520
But doing the floors, I want 
someone to just do my floors for

2524
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:49,920
me because that's the fucking 
worst. 

2525
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:50,720
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

2526
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:53,360
You know, and, like, dust things
because I'm really shit at 

2527
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:54,480
dusting. 
Yeah. 

2528
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:58,280
So I'm like, you know what? 
I can go without, you know, 

2529
02:05:58,280 --> 02:06:01,960
ordering Uber Eats to work when 
I forget my lunch, yeah, I'll 

2530
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:04,080
walk over to the hospital 
cafeteria and get something. 

2531
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:07,280
But it's impossible to hire any 
servicer out out here. 

2532
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:08,960
My cousin. 
That's what my cousin does. 

2533
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:10,880
Your cousin do it. 
Does she want to like, come out 

2534
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:11,720
here? 
To Canada? 

2535
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:15,440
Probably not. 
Move to Canada and clean my 

2536
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,680
house for me please. 
See, I I could hire her to come 

2537
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:21,880
do it, but then we'd probably 
just sit and do a puzzle or 

2538
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:24,600
something instead. 
Yeah, I feel like I'd be fine. 

2539
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,680
Like if it's a regular person 
and I get to know them and it's 

2540
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:30,600
like a woman and I meet her and 
stuff, I'd probably be cool with

2541
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:32,680
it. 
I mean, I'm not having a man in 

2542
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:34,400
here to clean, but I don't think
any of them. 

2543
02:06:35,160 --> 02:06:37,320
But what if you got one of those
men from TikTok and then you 

2544
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:39,560
just wash them clean? 
You get a free show. 

2545
02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:42,600
Hot like a sexy shirtless 1. 
I don't think Chase would go for

2546
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:45,920
it. 
You're like, honey, we can't. 

2547
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:49,400
We can't budget this in, sorry. 
Why does it cost extra and I'm 

2548
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:53,960
like for no shirt? 
Shirtless fee. 

2549
02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:56,600
I think it sounds like a great 
plan. 

2550
02:06:56,600 --> 02:06:58,640
OK. 
Well, unfortunately, yeah, I 

2551
02:06:58,640 --> 02:06:59,800
don't think they offer that 
here. 

2552
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:01,840
I'm having trouble just getting 
a regular one in. 

2553
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:04,200
Honestly, it sounds like a great
business idea. 

2554
02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:07,600
Yeah, many hot guys who like 
cleaning that is a pretty good 

2555
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:09,440
because I. 
Think it's genius? 

2556
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:11,640
Because there's nothing sexier 
than a man doing chores. 

2557
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:13,400
Let's. 
Be, I know it's genius. 

2558
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:18,280
It's like somebody's got to get 
on that. 

2559
02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:20,640
What would we call this business
idea? 

2560
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:25,680
Hunks for hire? 
No, that sounds that sounds 

2561
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:26,440
wrong. 
It has. 

2562
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:28,760
So it has to be something about 
cleaning in the title. 

2563
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:33,640
Yeah, it's got to be Mr. Clean. 
Probably trademark infringement.

2564
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:39,560
Mr. dirty and then clean. 
I don't know the Mr's clean. 

2565
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:41,440
That's not a copyright 
infringement. 

2566
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:45,040
I'm really tired so my brain is 
not firing. 

2567
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:46,960
I'm good. 
I have the house all to myself 

2568
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:49,480
this weekend. 
Oh wow, see you. 

2569
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:52,240
It's so nice. 
She said Chase went back to like

2570
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:54,120
family or friends and Guelph or 
something. 

2571
02:07:54,440 --> 02:07:58,400
Oh, I wasn't listening. 
I'm just like you're just like 

2572
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:02,480
the house to myself do. 
What I want No distractions, 

2573
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:04,240
deep flow. 
No. 

2574
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:08,040
Yes. 
Please, I inhaled a lot of the 

2575
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:12,840
chemicals last night, so I'm 
going to be possibly strange 

2576
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:16,080
while recording today. 
Something like that. 

2577
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:19,920
Yeah, lots of glitter spray and 
color Hairspray. 

2578
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:21,960
Nice. 
It'll be a fun time. 

2579
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:26,080
We had a thing called Glitter 
glam at church last night so I I

2580
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:28,720
was in the hair room doing lots 
of little girls hair. 

2581
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:31,320
That's cute. 
I got my hair done too. 

2582
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:33,720
We saw pictures. 
Yeah, it was fun. 

2583
02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:37,480
It looked fantastic. 
They had me at the word glitter.

2584
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:41,000
They were like, you should sign 
up for this thing called 

2585
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:41,760
glitter. 
I'm in. 

2586
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:43,680
It was like. 
Halfway through the word 

2587
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:46,080
glitter, you're like, I'm in. 
Say no more. 

2588
02:08:46,440 --> 02:08:50,080
Yeah, I last night I played 
Dungeons and Dragons on the 

2589
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:51,600
Internet. 
Was it crunchy? 

2590
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:53,840
No, it was not. 
Crunchy. 

2591
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:58,160
It was not a crunchy campaign. 
My little sister, she does the D

2592
02:08:58,160 --> 02:09:02,120
Ming and my brother plays. 
And by the way, they did not 

2593
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,800
invite me and this game has been
going on for a while. 

2594
02:09:04,960 --> 02:09:07,000
Rude. 
And I didn't even know about it 

2595
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:08,760
so. 
That's offensive, I. 

2596
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:13,200
Was pretty offended. 
So it's her, my brother 

2597
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:16,120
betrayal, her fiance, and her 
fiance's brother. 

2598
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:18,640
And I was. 
Once I found out about this 

2599
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:21,360
game, I was like, OK, first of 
all, super offended that I 

2600
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:24,400
haven't been invited because 
obviously lots of D&D. 

2601
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:26,040
Yeah. 
Second of all, I want in. 

2602
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:28,520
So now I'm in, and then I get to
see the little baby, 'cause 

2603
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:30,120
she's holding the baby on the 
webcam. 

2604
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:32,600
Yeah. 
So hi, that's family time. 

2605
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:34,880
Even better, yeah. 
Counts. 

2606
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:38,640
Why would you not be? 
I'm I'm offended on your behalf.

2607
02:09:38,880 --> 02:09:40,920
What the? 
Heck, seriously. 

2608
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:43,240
I maybe they thought I'd be too 
busy, I don't know. 

2609
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:46,320
You're just being Dicks. 
I'm sure it was just an 

2610
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:48,840
oversight because I'm a great 
DND player, come up with great 

2611
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:51,400
characters, I'm very funny, we 
have fun. 

2612
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:52,480
I'm. 
Very funny. 

2613
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:56,920
My character is a forest gnome. 
She was training as a Bard, but 

2614
02:09:56,920 --> 02:10:00,400
a brutal accident left her lost 
in the forest and injured, and 

2615
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,880
she was rescued by a family of 
squirrels who nursed her back to

2616
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,240
health. 
And she had a realization that 

2617
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:10,520
the best life is squirrel life. 
So she integrated into their 

2618
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:13,440
community and then she decided 
to leave the forest eventually 

2619
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:16,400
and go and tell everyone about 
the life they should be living. 

2620
02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:19,200
Do you make this up? 
To reach their inner squirrel. 

2621
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:20,680
Yeah, I made that up. 
That's my character. 

2622
02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:23,840
So she's she's basically, I 
start with like a life coach 

2623
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:25,760
character. 
But now she's just really like 

2624
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:28,320
trying to get everyone to to 
reach their inner squirrel and 

2625
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:30,200
bring it out. 
Not everyone can be a squirrel 

2626
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:33,240
because some people aren't cool.
So some people are having her, 

2627
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:34,840
but everyone got to live that 
forest life. 

2628
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:39,360
So she's like so very earnest, 
slightly intense, insane, very 

2629
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:45,360
obsessed with acorns and and 
hiding them for winter. 

2630
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:48,680
I'm not rarely speechless on 
this podcast. 

2631
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:52,640
Sure, she's got a thing. 
She's got a gimmick. 

2632
02:10:52,640 --> 02:10:54,880
I have a little He's my brother 
because like the squirrels 

2633
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:56,440
adopted me. 
So he's my brother. 

2634
02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:59,600
I named him Tree and he, he's a 
squirrel who rides my my 

2635
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:01,520
shoulder. 
And she's anyway, she's a Bard 

2636
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:04,120
who multiclassed into Druid at 
like level 10. 

2637
02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:06,000
I was allowed to build her, 
which is just very powerful. 

2638
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:09,480
So great, 8 brutal spells. 
So is this a self insert? 

2639
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:14,320
I think all good DND characters 
have an element of the self 

2640
02:11:14,560 --> 02:11:17,600
against. 
I think that that really brings 

2641
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:20,240
the heart into the role play, 
into the jokes. 

2642
02:11:20,480 --> 02:11:24,320
Really drawn upon your your 
experiences with being reared by

2643
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:25,800
squirrels. 
I like squirrels. 

2644
02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:27,120
They're very cute. 
They've got a little bushy 

2645
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:29,280
tails. 
Speaking of squirrels. 

2646
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:32,840
Looks like I'm just moving on. 
I don't even know what to say to

2647
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:35,840
this. 
I'm just, I'm just not touching 

2648
02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:38,440
on it. 
Well Speaking of squirrels in 

2649
02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:43,560
real life, if anyone has advice 
on how to walk a dog. 

2650
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:47,640
Yeah. 
And not get her to be obsessed 

2651
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:50,880
with the squirrels. 
Good luck with good. 

2652
02:11:50,920 --> 02:11:53,040
Luck. 
Work on your arm strengths to 

2653
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,840
hold her back. 
Because my arms are so sore. 

2654
02:11:55,840 --> 02:12:00,280
You got a trainer to listen to 
you before following her heart's

2655
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:02,600
desire to chase this. 
Well, The thing is that she's 

2656
02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:05,720
not my dog. 
Resistance bands increase that 

2657
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:07,000
strength. 
Arm strength. 

2658
02:12:07,480 --> 02:12:09,600
Well, I guess my arms are just 
going to continue to get a 

2659
02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:12,120
workout a few times a week. 
You're going to get swollen, 

2660
02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:14,000
dude. 
You're going to have the 

2661
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:17,160
muscles. 
Paul, someone was asking about 

2662
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:18,720
your tallow. 
That's dead. 

2663
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:21,480
It's dead. 
It did not work out, no. 

2664
02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:24,240
I got the texture quite nice, 
but I think I burnt it in the 

2665
02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:26,800
first round and I just couldn't 
get the set right. 

2666
02:12:27,160 --> 02:12:31,440
So I will simply continue buying
my lovely Tel moisturizer off of

2667
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:34,240
Etsy. 
OK until you forget and then try

2668
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:38,080
and do it again in like 5 years.
Yeah, 8 months. 

2669
02:12:38,080 --> 02:12:43,760
Ken's is my usual like. 
Cycle on that one I was trying 

2670
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:44,600
to be. 
Generous. 

2671
02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:52,760
I'll go through the cycle 
several times in five years now.

2672
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:55,760
It did not work out. 
That's OK. 

2673
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:57,400
I'm sure my next craft will work
out. 

2674
02:12:57,720 --> 02:13:02,360
I found out my maid of honor is 
pregnant too with another boy. 

2675
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:06,560
She's due in July, which means 
that that blanket I never 

2676
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:09,400
finished for my sister is 
definitely going to be grown out

2677
02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:10,640
of. 
I think I could have that 

2678
02:13:10,640 --> 02:13:12,440
finished by July. 
Or. 

2679
02:13:12,760 --> 02:13:15,040
Yeah. 
The next person who has a boy. 

2680
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:18,600
Oh my God, yeah, yeah. 
I don't know any other. 

2681
02:13:18,680 --> 02:13:20,520
I don't know any world, anyone 
else. 

2682
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:23,800
Unless my sister has another one
really quick and it's also a 

2683
02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:26,200
boy, but. 
My cousin is also having a boy. 

2684
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:28,720
What is in the water? 
What is in the? 

2685
02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:32,000
Water, I was going to say I was 
going to say boy juice and that 

2686
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:33,720
just. 
No, thank you. 

2687
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:37,880
Yeah, it sounded wrong in my 
head, and then I still said it. 

2688
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:42,320
Yeah, you still said it. 
So I'm gonna try the knitting 

2689
02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:43,960
again. 
OK, nice. 

2690
02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:47,120
It doesn't smell. 
A safe craft that doesn't smell.

2691
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:49,960
Doesn't smell. 
Yeah, yeah, it's much safer. 

2692
02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:52,160
Yeah, you just have to keep your
kitties out of it. 

2693
02:13:52,440 --> 02:13:54,160
Yeah, they do like to try, you 
said. 

2694
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:57,160
Kitty, I thought I. 
Thought you said kidneys and I 

2695
02:13:57,160 --> 02:14:00,040
was like Ken's. 
Keep your kidneys out of it. 

2696
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:02,080
Go in the kidneys. 
That's correct. 

2697
02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:06,080
I try not to stab myself in the 
kidneys with knitting needles. 

2698
02:14:06,200 --> 02:14:09,120
That would take some doing. 
The cats do try to catch them. 

2699
02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:11,280
No Ken's. 
The cats do go after them, but 

2700
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:12,760
that's fine. 
What about you, Ken's? 

2701
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:16,880
Beyond continuing to be sick and
having the longest month of my 

2702
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,440
life, I have not really been up 
to much. 

2703
02:14:19,480 --> 02:14:23,360
I have been very sick. 
You know, I was telling y'all 

2704
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:26,200
last time that I was, I was 
throwing up and then I had 

2705
02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:29,200
horrible cramps that were like 
the worst in my whole life and 

2706
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:31,720
then I got sick immediately 
thereafter. 

2707
02:14:31,880 --> 02:14:33,560
That's brutal. 
It was not good. 

2708
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:36,200
I was very congested. 
I'm still taking some medication

2709
02:14:36,200 --> 02:14:38,480
today. 
I really hate it. 

2710
02:14:38,600 --> 02:14:40,600
I'm sorry. 
The last time that I got really 

2711
02:14:40,600 --> 02:14:44,200
sick, it went from my nose being
congested to my chest being 

2712
02:14:44,200 --> 02:14:46,880
congested. 
I ended up having a flare up and

2713
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:50,880
I got real sick and like my 
heart was not doing good. 

2714
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:55,480
So I'm like trying to be 
abundantly cautious. 

2715
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:56,440
We should. 
Send her some. 

2716
02:14:56,440 --> 02:14:58,280
Buckley's right. 
Yeah. 

2717
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:00,800
It would probably clear it up 
pretty quickly. 

2718
02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:03,560
Have you ever tried it, Ken's? 
I have not. 

2719
02:15:03,560 --> 02:15:06,480
I feel like I probably should. 
It's like a rite of passage. 

2720
02:15:06,560 --> 02:15:10,960
You're missing out because I 
took a video of myself trying it

2721
02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:14,280
for the first time, remember? 
It was very entertaining. 

2722
02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:16,840
They've changed the formula. 
It tastes good now. 

2723
02:15:17,040 --> 02:15:19,440
For some reason, first of all, 
that's a horrific lie. 

2724
02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:25,240
That's that's. 
Is it at least like a taste 

2725
02:15:25,240 --> 02:15:28,440
where if you have something else
around that you can? 

2726
02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:32,360
No, it's just like it. 
Tastes like really fresh to me, 

2727
02:15:32,360 --> 02:15:36,120
like it's burning the inside of 
my my every tube in here. 

2728
02:15:36,160 --> 02:15:38,880
Yes, but in a like, in a fresh 
way, you know? 

2729
02:15:39,400 --> 02:15:42,320
Tube. 
It's it's exactly, and when I 

2730
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:47,760
say exactly, I mean it is 
literally the exact taste of 

2731
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:51,000
what you would imagine hair dye 
taste like. 

2732
02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:55,560
The smell of hair dye. 
You know how hair dye smell 

2733
02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:57,480
taste, right? 
No, sorry. 

2734
02:15:57,680 --> 02:16:00,720
You know smells hair dye. 
Chemically, that is. 

2735
02:16:01,000 --> 02:16:05,360
Yes, the exact smell of hair dye
is how Buckleys tastes. 

2736
02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:09,640
It's like a minty pine, sort of.
Nope, no, Nope. 

2737
02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:14,120
Maybe my? 
Tastes have just It is how hair 

2738
02:16:14,120 --> 02:16:17,960
dye it is how hair dye smells. 
But it works. 

2739
02:16:18,240 --> 02:16:21,200
God damn I'm curious it. 
Burns everything out from the 

2740
02:16:21,200 --> 02:16:21,840
inside of it. 
Oh. 

2741
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:26,040
It burns, It burns. 
I had to check multiple times 

2742
02:16:26,040 --> 02:16:31,680
that it was not hair dye. 
I was not sure, yeah. 

2743
02:16:31,680 --> 02:16:34,480
I like it, I like it. 
Now I'm genuinely like. 

2744
02:16:34,639 --> 02:16:38,360
But as soon as you as soon as. 
Shudder, I don't see her. 

2745
02:16:38,440 --> 02:16:41,040
Yeah, because, you know, you get
it down and you take that first 

2746
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:43,559
breath, it's like, Oh my. 
Gosh, I can breathe. 

2747
02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:46,240
Yeah. 
He's like, that's like a whole 

2748
02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:48,360
winter's day. 
I just. 

2749
02:16:48,639 --> 02:16:52,280
I love that. 
That I'm looking at the like 

2750
02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:56,120
Amazon page for the Buckley's 
thing and one of the pictures 

2751
02:16:56,120 --> 02:16:58,719
that it has listed, it has this 
guy making this horrible face 

2752
02:16:58,719 --> 02:17:00,879
and it says it tastes awful and 
it works. 

2753
02:17:00,879 --> 02:17:05,080
Yeah, that's been its, that's 
been its actual slogan for like 

2754
02:17:05,160 --> 02:17:06,680
decades. 
That's what we grew up. 

2755
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:09,760
It tastes awful, but it works 
and it kind of I think has 

2756
02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:12,920
shaped a generations philosophy 
of life up here. 

2757
02:17:12,920 --> 02:17:14,639
Whatever tastes awful is going 
to work. 

2758
02:17:14,959 --> 02:17:17,000
Well. 
If it hurts, that means it's 

2759
02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:19,440
doing its job. 
Yeah, that's dangerous 

2760
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:21,520
philosophy. 
Yeah. 

2761
02:17:21,959 --> 02:17:23,760
OK, well added. 
Two cart. 

2762
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:28,000
We would like a video please. 
I'm really looking forward to 

2763
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:30,719
this curing you. 
Alright, God I hope so. 

2764
02:17:30,719 --> 02:17:33,719
I'm so over being congested and 
sick. 

2765
02:17:33,879 --> 02:17:35,760
You just got to swing it 
straight from the bottle. 

2766
02:17:35,920 --> 02:17:38,680
I don't want spoons or shit. 
Yeah, that that sounds. 

2767
02:17:38,799 --> 02:17:42,080
My own personal bottle. 
So germs can't survive on that 

2768
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:44,200
thing. 
Oh my gosh, I don't think we can

2769
02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:46,000
survive. 
I don't think that I could bring

2770
02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:48,719
that up to my mother, who is a 
medical microbiologist. 

2771
02:17:48,760 --> 02:17:51,639
I feel like she she would be 
like, yeah. 

2772
02:17:52,240 --> 02:17:53,799
I think she'd probably agree 
with. 

2773
02:17:53,799 --> 02:18:00,280
Me, But yeah, aside from from 
being sick, I haven't been up to

2774
02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:02,799
much. 
I think that I, I don't have 

2775
02:18:02,799 --> 02:18:06,080
like a concert, any concerts 
that I'm going to for like 

2776
02:18:06,080 --> 02:18:11,040
another few months. 
So which is a bummer because I 

2777
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:13,120
have so many that I'm going to, 
but they're not. 

2778
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:15,040
They're not yet right until the 
summer. 

2779
02:18:15,440 --> 02:18:20,559
I feel like I have not had a day
that has not been chaotic and I 

2780
02:18:20,559 --> 02:18:23,200
don't know when. 
Sounds like you need to take a 

2781
02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:25,520
mom vacation. 
Somewhere sunny. 

2782
02:18:25,639 --> 02:18:28,280
Like book yourself a hotel away.
Just somewhere sunny? 

2783
02:18:28,280 --> 02:18:30,680
Never mind. 
You know, room service. 

2784
02:18:31,360 --> 02:18:36,040
I live somewhere very it's, it's
in the 90s this week in March, 

2785
02:18:36,040 --> 02:18:38,840
which is it's like 34 for you, I
think pools. 

2786
02:18:39,080 --> 02:18:43,520
Oh my God, that is very hot. 
How on earth is it that how long

2787
02:18:43,520 --> 02:18:46,120
has it been that hot? 
Because I was thinking about if 

2788
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:48,480
I was going to visit LA, I was 
going to do it like when it's 

2789
02:18:48,480 --> 02:18:50,920
cold. 
A couple weeks ago it was 

2790
02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:52,120
called. 
Gotcha. 

2791
02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:54,799
So like end of February, 
beginning of March. 

2792
02:18:54,799 --> 02:18:57,920
Ish Yeah. 
It's been a really rough and 

2793
02:18:57,920 --> 02:19:00,840
chaotic couple weeks, few weeks 
over here. 

2794
02:19:00,920 --> 02:19:02,240
Should I bring the whole mood 
down? 

2795
02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:05,600
Should I like bum everybody out?
Well, I mean, the good part 

2796
02:19:05,600 --> 02:19:08,040
about that is that it can only 
go up from there. 

2797
02:19:08,200 --> 02:19:09,600
I suppose. 
Well, it is the end of an 

2798
02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:12,160
episode, except it's the 
beginning of a recording. 

2799
02:19:12,200 --> 02:19:15,040
Kind of ends the episode or not.
It ends the episode. 

2800
02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:19,760
It begins our recording. 
My aunt passed away 3 three 

2801
02:19:19,760 --> 02:19:23,360
weeks ago. 
Two weeks ago now 3 two. 

2802
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:25,840
Yeah, one blast off. 
I don't know. 

2803
02:19:26,680 --> 02:19:31,400
I lost track of the. 
Time she's been struggling for a

2804
02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:38,400
while too right yes yes because 
she wasn't like eating or yeah 

2805
02:19:38,400 --> 02:19:40,760
well anything that's a long. 
Story. 

2806
02:19:41,120 --> 02:19:43,480
Yeah, that that's its own 
separate thing, but oh. 

2807
02:19:43,520 --> 02:19:46,080
My gosh, yeah. 
So it's been a long couple 

2808
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:47,520
weeks. 
I've been trying to help my mom.

2809
02:19:47,520 --> 02:19:50,200
She lives with my parents. 
I've been trying to help my mom 

2810
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:56,840
stuff out and I found a few 
boxes of VHS tapes which are 

2811
02:19:56,840 --> 02:19:58,520
some movies. 
Yeah. 

2812
02:19:58,880 --> 02:20:01,760
A couple days later we found a 
working VCR because she had a 

2813
02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:03,720
VCR in her room but it was not 
working. 

2814
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:07,360
We found another VCR. 
I haven't used a VCR in a long 

2815
02:20:07,360 --> 02:20:09,280
time. 
I know I was trying to remember 

2816
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:13,800
how to connect it. 
I had to use, you know, the red,

2817
02:20:14,240 --> 02:20:17,840
white and yellow, the AV Yeah, 
the AV table. 

2818
02:20:18,160 --> 02:20:19,880
So, yeah, I was like, I can do 
this. 

2819
02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:22,480
And so it's me. 
And then my youngest cousin, 

2820
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:26,280
we're 16 years apart. 
She's like, you know, how to. 

2821
02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:28,160
I don't know how to do this, you
know? 

2822
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:30,600
You know, she has to point out 
that I'm. 

2823
02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:32,680
Elderly. 
Yes, elderly. 

2824
02:20:33,080 --> 02:20:38,120
So we figured out and then we 
put in a video and it's 

2825
02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:41,560
Christmas 1999. 
Oh wow. 

2826
02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:44,600
I wanted to send you guys this 
video but I think it's too long 

2827
02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:46,480
to send on Discord. 
I might be able to send it on 

2828
02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:49,040
Instagram because you guys will 
laugh at me. 

2829
02:20:49,280 --> 02:20:54,240
I was 14 years old. 
My grandpa is recording and he 

2830
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:55,960
is going to walk into my 
bedroom. 

2831
02:20:56,200 --> 02:21:00,280
I don't know, it was just so 
funny because I was like showing

2832
02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:04,760
off all of my *NSYNC posters and
then I was so serious about it. 

2833
02:21:05,080 --> 02:21:09,160
I was like, try you're. 
So pretty serious about **NSYNC.

2834
02:21:09,320 --> 02:21:11,000
No, but I was like trying to be 
so cool. 

2835
02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:13,960
Like these are my new posters 
trying to be. 

2836
02:21:13,960 --> 02:21:17,000
So cool about it. 
You're chill, I'm chilling 

2837
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:17,840
normal. 
I was. 

2838
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:19,280
So normal. 
I was like, yeah. 

2839
02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:24,880
So normal and he. 
Zoomed in on my new poster and 

2840
02:21:24,880 --> 02:21:28,160
then was like just stayed there 
for a while and then zoomed out.

2841
02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:31,520
It was so funny. 
Oh. 

2842
02:21:32,360 --> 02:21:33,320
That's cute. 
Yeah. 

2843
02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:36,160
But my cousins and I, it was our
aunt. 

2844
02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:40,840
No, she didn't have any kids, 
but we were all just in her room

2845
02:21:41,160 --> 02:21:47,080
crying all night. 
We've had a few recent family 

2846
02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:51,760
deaths a couple months ago as 
well, and then a couple years 

2847
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:55,120
ago as well. 
So watching, watching videos, it

2848
02:21:55,120 --> 02:21:58,560
was like, oh, all of these 
people not here anymore. 

2849
02:21:59,480 --> 02:22:01,960
Yeah, I have glitter in my eye 
from last night. 

2850
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:08,480
Oh, am I talking about this 
emotional thing? 

2851
02:22:08,480 --> 02:22:10,160
And I'm. 
It's just the glitter. 

2852
02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:14,040
It's just the glitter in my eye.
Oh, Ouch, Ouch, Ouch. 

2853
02:22:14,560 --> 02:22:17,160
So yeah. 
That's a rough, rough time. 

2854
02:22:17,200 --> 02:22:20,200
That's been my few weeks. 
I don't know how to bring us 

2855
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:22,400
back up now. 
And on a cheerful note. 

2856
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:24,680
Other than my **NSYNC walls 
which were fun. 

2857
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:28,240
I don't think I ever have any 
**NSYNC posters. 

2858
02:22:28,640 --> 02:22:31,560
I'm sorry, I would have shared. 
OK, actually. 

2859
02:22:31,640 --> 02:22:33,360
That's wait a minute. 
That's not true. 

2860
02:22:33,360 --> 02:22:34,480
That's not true. 
I would not. 

2861
02:22:34,720 --> 02:22:37,440
I would not have shared. 
I was never much. 

2862
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:40,160
I was never really one for 
putting up posters. 

2863
02:22:40,160 --> 02:22:41,920
I don't know why I'm. 
Sorry. 

2864
02:22:42,520 --> 02:22:44,480
It's weird. 
I don't know, I'm trying to 

2865
02:22:44,480 --> 02:22:45,960
think of something cheerful now 
too. 

2866
02:22:46,520 --> 02:22:48,880
Oh well, here's. 
I mean, OK, it's still about my 

2867
02:22:48,880 --> 02:22:52,800
aunt, but apparently she had the
safe underneath her bed that we 

2868
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:54,360
put it open. 
Yes. 

2869
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:56,360
And then my mom asked me to 
clean out. 

2870
02:22:56,360 --> 02:22:59,240
So across from her room in the 
hallway was like these hall 

2871
02:22:59,240 --> 02:23:03,840
closets that she used, and I 
cleaned them all out. 

2872
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:07,000
That's where I found all the 
videos, lots of old pictures. 

2873
02:23:07,560 --> 02:23:10,840
And then I found a box full of 
keys. 

2874
02:23:11,320 --> 02:23:13,200
So they were like, Oh my gosh, 
the safe. 

2875
02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:14,680
Then we were able to open the 
safe. 

2876
02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:18,760
OK, OK. 
In it we found $1000 in cash. 

2877
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:20,200
Holy shit. 
Nice, yeah. 

2878
02:23:20,320 --> 02:23:24,320
We found a bag full of silver 
coins and I was like silver. 

2879
02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:27,880
Wow, Silver. 
Those coins were worth another 

2880
02:23:27,880 --> 02:23:29,680
1300 OH. 
My gosh. 

2881
02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:36,120
We found collectible Star Wars 
stuff, which is weird because my

2882
02:23:36,160 --> 02:23:39,120
aunt was not. 
Never in my life have I heard 

2883
02:23:39,120 --> 02:23:40,680
her talk. 
About Star Wars, it sounds like 

2884
02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:44,240
this was an emergency stash, so 
she was envisioning some kind of

2885
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:48,480
dystopian future where currency 
and she could barter Star Wars. 

2886
02:23:48,480 --> 02:23:50,840
Collectibles. 
I know where the silver came 

2887
02:23:50,840 --> 02:23:57,360
from because for Y2K her 
stepdad, my step grandpa thought

2888
02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:59,520
you know. 
Was Yeah, I remember what? 

2889
02:23:59,560 --> 02:24:01,480
OK. 
That's where the silver came 

2890
02:24:01,480 --> 02:24:04,320
from, and she just still had it.
Just still had it, OK. 

2891
02:24:04,960 --> 02:24:09,640
But then it also, she had my 
grandma's all of these rings 

2892
02:24:09,640 --> 02:24:12,880
from my grandma. 
She had, she had both of my 

2893
02:24:12,880 --> 02:24:16,880
grandma's wedding sets, so the 
ones to my grandpa and then my 

2894
02:24:16,880 --> 02:24:18,280
step grandpa. 
Yeah. 

2895
02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:22,800
And then my grandma's birthstone
ring and my mom and my other 

2896
02:24:22,800 --> 02:24:25,120
aunt are like, why did she get 
all this? 

2897
02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:30,600
What the heck and. 
My mom's like, well, probably 

2898
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:35,560
because I'd lose everything and 
she keeps it, which is fair. 

2899
02:24:35,720 --> 02:24:37,720
She had a literal safe to keep 
it safe. 

2900
02:24:37,960 --> 02:24:40,640
It's. 
Fair, my mom and as as my mom is

2901
02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:46,240
saying that she drops it all 
literally as she's she's showing

2902
02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:48,280
me these rings. 
She's like, this is my great oh,

2903
02:24:48,280 --> 02:24:53,560
where to go, literally. 
I was standing, sorry, this is I

2904
02:24:53,560 --> 02:24:57,120
was standing at the kitchen 
counter the other day and there 

2905
02:24:57,120 --> 02:24:59,440
were a couple like leftover 
fries because we've done like 

2906
02:24:59,440 --> 02:25:01,760
oven fries. 
So I was like, OK, I'll have a 

2907
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:04,160
couple I'll just have leftover 
fries standing here and like 

2908
02:25:04,160 --> 02:25:07,360
watching TikTok in my other 
hand, Chase came up to stand 

2909
02:25:07,360 --> 02:25:09,680
next to me. 
I was holding a fry and for some

2910
02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:13,080
reason my hand just I opened 
dropped the fry and ketchup on 

2911
02:25:13,080 --> 02:25:16,120
the floor and then my other I 
just immediately also dropped my

2912
02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:18,520
phone for no reason. 
Yeah. 

2913
02:25:18,520 --> 02:25:21,720
He's like, what are you doing? 
I don't. 

2914
02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:26,080
Know my hands stopped working. 
I blame I told him he was 

2915
02:25:26,080 --> 02:25:27,720
staying too close to me. 
It was his fault. 

2916
02:25:27,720 --> 02:25:31,320
Oh, which probably was. 
Sure, Yeah, fools.exe has 

2917
02:25:31,320 --> 02:25:33,640
crashed. 
No reason, just hand opened 

2918
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:35,000
stuff. 
Literally. 

2919
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:37,240
It's literally an ADHD thing 
though. 

2920
02:25:37,400 --> 02:25:38,760
Oh. 
Is it? 

2921
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:42,480
It is. 
My my mom's it's you tend to 

2922
02:25:42,480 --> 02:25:45,720
drop things. 
I do drop things constantly, 

2923
02:25:45,960 --> 02:25:47,480
it's very hard to hold on to 
them. 

2924
02:25:47,720 --> 02:25:49,960
Thank God I've got a Samsung 
Galaxy phone. 

2925
02:25:49,960 --> 02:25:54,240
These things are unbreakable. 
I eat this down the stairs like 

2926
02:25:54,240 --> 02:25:58,080
several times every week. 
Hold on, fucking throw it 

2927
02:25:58,360 --> 02:26:01,360
without meaning to. 
Anyway, the cool thing is that 

2928
02:26:01,360 --> 02:26:03,920
yeah, sorry my grandma, my mom, 
and my aunts. 

2929
02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:05,800
Mom. 
She died when I was four in a 

2930
02:26:05,800 --> 02:26:07,080
car accident. 
Oh. 

2931
02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:09,600
Yeah, but I got, I got the 
birthstone ring. 

2932
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:12,960
Oh, that's very. 
It's a giant. 

2933
02:26:13,160 --> 02:26:14,680
It's a rock. 
Really nice. 

2934
02:26:14,680 --> 02:26:18,000
Is that Topaz? 
It's that or Citrine. 

2935
02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:20,480
It's November's birthday. 
November. 

2936
02:26:20,720 --> 02:26:24,040
I mean, I'm the oldest. 
I think I'm the only grandchild 

2937
02:26:24,040 --> 02:26:25,480
who remembers her. 
Yeah. 

2938
02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:27,480
So I'm. 
I'm super happy that. 

2939
02:26:27,760 --> 02:26:30,440
I all thinking it represents 
Strike's birthday. 

2940
02:26:30,480 --> 02:26:32,800
Were you of? 
Course not, I would never do 

2941
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:36,000
that to my grandmother. 
Oh, apparently November is Topaz

2942
02:26:36,040 --> 02:26:37,640
and citrine. 
Yeah, so I. 

2943
02:26:37,640 --> 02:26:41,360
Don't know how that's possible. 
I know I'm thinking about taking

2944
02:26:41,360 --> 02:26:43,800
it in. 
I can tell that it's real 

2945
02:26:43,800 --> 02:26:47,680
because it has the like, it has 
a hallmark on the inside. 

2946
02:26:48,760 --> 02:26:51,960
So I think I want to take it in 
somewhere because it is a little

2947
02:26:51,960 --> 02:26:54,720
scuffed because it's old. 
Yeah, get it polished up. 

2948
02:26:54,720 --> 02:26:56,880
Get it polished and buffed and 
stuff. 

2949
02:26:57,320 --> 02:26:59,760
My mom goes, you shouldn't make 
David put some diamonds on the 

2950
02:26:59,760 --> 02:27:01,040
side. 
And I was like, Oh yeah, I'll 

2951
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:02,240
tell him. 
I'll tell him to get right on 

2952
02:27:02,240 --> 02:27:03,360
that. 
Right. 

2953
02:27:05,560 --> 02:27:07,880
To Do List diamonds. 
I don't know if I want that 

2954
02:27:07,880 --> 02:27:09,360
though. 
I kind of like just the 

2955
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:11,400
simplicity of just the the I. 
Like it? 

2956
02:27:11,400 --> 02:27:14,080
I like it like that too. 
I think it's really nice. 

2957
02:27:14,200 --> 02:27:16,760
I really, but I'm really happy 
to have my my grandma's ring 

2958
02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:19,080
because I do remember her. 
Sweet. 

2959
02:27:19,440 --> 02:27:21,600
Yeah, yeah. 
That's a happier note. 

2960
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:23,880
It is. 
It's a little big. 

2961
02:27:24,040 --> 02:27:25,640
Maybe I should wear it on this 
finger? 

2962
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:27,880
Maybe I should go eat more 
desserts at Disney. 

2963
02:27:29,520 --> 02:27:33,720
More dull whip. 
Bring on the doll if I have a 

2964
02:27:33,720 --> 02:27:38,080
ring to fit. 
Oh, my gosh, yeah. 

2965
02:27:38,080 --> 02:27:41,560
I think my cousin is getting one
of her wedding sets. 

2966
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:43,600
My mom's like, I don't want to 
just keep this stuff. 

2967
02:27:43,600 --> 02:27:46,760
I want you, all the girls to 
have it, have these things. 

2968
02:27:46,760 --> 02:27:48,160
Well, you know, you can wear 
them. 

2969
02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:49,880
Niece is just keeping it. 
Niece. 

2970
02:27:49,880 --> 02:27:52,000
My aunt was. 
We called my aunt niece. 

2971
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:54,320
And I know that's confusing. 
Her name is Denise. 

2972
02:27:54,320 --> 02:27:56,120
Oh, that. 
Makes. 

2973
02:27:56,120 --> 02:27:59,080
Sense Yeah, OK. 
I'm always like, you know, my 

2974
02:27:59,080 --> 02:28:02,480
aunt, niece and people are what?
I. 

2975
02:28:02,560 --> 02:28:06,120
Was really worried about talking
about this stuff on Tuesday. 

2976
02:28:06,760 --> 02:28:09,080
Because. 
I hadn't been very emotional at 

2977
02:28:09,080 --> 02:28:11,520
all. 
And Tuesday, watching the video.

2978
02:28:11,520 --> 02:28:15,440
Tuesday and Wednesday, the 
floodgates were open and we were

2979
02:28:15,440 --> 02:28:18,120
watching those videos On 
Tuesday, we were watching the 

2980
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:22,920
Christmas and I, as soon as it 
showed my cousin, my cousin who 

2981
02:28:22,920 --> 02:28:27,400
passed away a couple years ago, 
he was, he thinks like 9, maybe 

2982
02:28:27,400 --> 02:28:29,720
9 or 10 sitting there playing 
the piano. 

2983
02:28:30,280 --> 02:28:32,520
And I like, I was like, that's 
it. 

2984
02:28:32,840 --> 02:28:35,440
I'm done. 
I like, it's just I started 

2985
02:28:35,440 --> 02:28:39,520
crying and then my aunt came on 
the screen and it was like it 

2986
02:28:39,520 --> 02:28:43,160
was Christmas morning at my 
grandpa's house and it was my 

2987
02:28:43,160 --> 02:28:46,840
grandpa, my great grandparents 
and my aunt and I was like, they

2988
02:28:46,840 --> 02:28:49,760
are all gone, all of them. 
And me. 

2989
02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:53,880
I look over Savannah's bawling. 
I'm I was like, Oh my gosh, 

2990
02:28:53,880 --> 02:28:55,920
we're throwing the toilet paper 
back and forth. 

2991
02:28:55,920 --> 02:28:58,080
It was like, oh, broke ours. 
And then my mom. 

2992
02:28:58,120 --> 02:29:01,600
Have a cry. 
If we sure did. 

2993
02:29:02,120 --> 02:29:05,520
And then my mom goes, she goes, 
yeah, pretty soon you'll be the 

2994
02:29:05,560 --> 02:29:07,680
you guys are the next generation
for Christmas. 

2995
02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:09,400
I thought she. 
Was going to say, pretty soon 

2996
02:29:09,400 --> 02:29:12,400
you'll be dead too. 
No, but she was like pretty much

2997
02:29:12,400 --> 02:29:15,040
saying pretty soon we'll all you
guys will be it. 

2998
02:29:15,040 --> 02:29:16,960
I'll be gone. 
And we're like, what the heck? 

2999
02:29:17,240 --> 02:29:19,080
And then I do. 
That my mom does that. 

3000
02:29:19,480 --> 02:29:21,000
My gosh. 
And then I asked my mom. 

3001
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:24,000
I was like, can you watch the 
kids in June? 

3002
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:28,480
Because I'm gonna meet that 
listener at Disneyland by the. 

3003
02:29:28,520 --> 02:29:32,120
Way fun. 
I know and she goes if I'm still

3004
02:29:32,120 --> 02:29:35,200
alive. 
Morbid. 

3005
02:29:35,600 --> 02:29:39,720
Lord, yeah. 
She says it all the time. 

3006
02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:43,120
I tell her, do you don't get to 
die to get out of babysitting 

3007
02:29:43,400 --> 02:29:45,280
so. 
Better be. 

3008
02:29:47,680 --> 02:29:49,240
I spoke that all the time. 
Yeah. 

3009
02:29:49,760 --> 02:29:53,000
The death is not an excuse. 
No, it's not an excuse. 

3010
02:29:53,520 --> 02:29:56,160
That'll do it for this episode. 
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3011
02:29:56,320 --> 02:29:58,640
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3012
02:29:58,640 --> 02:30:01,520
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3013
02:30:01,520 --> 02:30:04,920
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3014
02:30:04,920 --> 02:30:09,120
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3015
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:12,640
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3016
02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:14,760
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3017
02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:16,960
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