1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,320 It is when people aren't even happy for you when you're 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,360 thriving. It's like they cut. 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,880 Misery loves company. Maybe not sure, but you know, 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,720 and, and I feel bad for them because a lot of them just don't 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,200 look good and this is not a dig. So I don't want to be like I'm 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,600 hurting my friends, you know, but they're just unhealthy and 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,280 and they're not living. They think they're living their 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,000 best life, but they're not. And, and it's so sad because I 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,160 know how I feel and I feel better now than I did when I was 10 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:40,960 a teenager. I've never felt this good. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Never. I I feel like I am a superwoman 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,480 and I could go swing in the jungle. 13 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:50,520 You know, this is something that I've never experienced. 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,760 I grew up on fried chicken and Bologna and, and just all the 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,480 processed foods. And so getting all that out of 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,240 my body and just eating red meat. 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,520 It really is what we're supposed to be eating. 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,319 And they just. But that's why I don't really 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,440 blame my friends for that situation because at the end of 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,120 the day, it's not their fault. And we are live. 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,240 Welcome to another episode of the Carnivore Evolution podcast. 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,760 Today we have another special guest. 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Today we have Leslie Anne. Leslie Anne is going to talk us 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,240 about our carnivore journey, how she came over, how she overcame 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,120 substance abuse, and now she's actually thriving on the 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,280 carnivore diet. Leslie Anne, how are you? 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,040 Amazing. Absolutely amazing. 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Good stuff. So before we start talking 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,280 everything about carnivore, give us a little back story about you 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:42,560 first of all. Well, I was raised in Jefferson 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,320 City all my life. I'm still here, 55 years old. 32 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:51,800 I graduated medical school a little like kindergarten 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,440 college. I graduated real estate school 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,880 last in 2022. But my passion is cleaning 35 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:06,360 houses and my purpose is sharing the carnivore lifestyle. 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Amazing and what what made you get into it in the first place? 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Like what we on talk is about your your health journey. 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,440 Like what have you heard about carnivore? 39 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,920 Like what did you feel like you need to go down that route? 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,400 So I had heard it from a Joe Rogan podcast. 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:29,800 Jordan Peterson was on there and for 2-3 years prior to seeing 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,800 Jordan, I had listened to him with motivational speaking 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,720 because I quit listening to anything weird, you know, and 44 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,960 like sitcoms or whatever. And I was just listening to 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,360 motivational speakers like Eric Thomas, David Coggins, Jordan 46 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,360 Peterson, just all those people and their stuff. 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:55,520 I was trying to transform who I was as a human and health wise. 48 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,760 And so I had been on that, that journey of just learning new 49 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,000 things because I, when you, when you're trying to transform your 50 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,720 life, you have to start over like you're in kindergarten. 51 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,800 You have to forget everything you learn and, and relearn 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,960 things that make sense and, and you feel is, is right, morally 53 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:25,120 right and just like gracefully. And so I had, I had health 54 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:31,280 issues for about 20 years. I had injuries from like car 55 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,080 wrecks. And then my wrists always hurt. 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,960 And yeah, I had shoulder pain. And I honestly, my sister and I 57 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,160 had a little bit of a tree, a little bit of a tree service for 58 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,800 a while. And so I thought that my 59 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,360 shoulder and, and some of that pain was due to moving these big 60 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,400 logs, you know, and putting them in the trailer. 61 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,720 And then I was never going to heal from that. 62 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,480 I just thought you hear all the time old people say, oh, I'm 63 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,920 old. But you hear, you know, older 64 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,720 people say, oh, my back hurts or oh, this hurts. 65 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,120 Just wait till you get old and you think that it's just part of 66 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,800 aging. You have no idea that you don't 67 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:20,120 have to hurt all your life. And so I I wasn't even concerned 68 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,840 about any health problems when I found Jordan Peterson. 69 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,560 I had health problems, but I was really just wanting to figure 70 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,680 out what was going on with the medical system because I got a 71 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,880 really bad infection. I went kayaking after real or I 72 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,560 entered real estate school. I hadn't been there yet and and 73 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,840 so in May I went kayaking. In October, I was supposed to 74 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:50,400 graduate real estate school. So I went kayaking and I got 75 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:56,480 this infection in one of my old piercings and it had gotten very 76 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,640 inflamed. The day after I got out of the 77 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:05,680 water, it was inflamed and it was horrific pain when something 78 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,520 is full of pus and, and, and it was just huge. 79 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,800 But I went to the doctor, she gave me antibiotics. 80 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,400 I stayed on antibiotics for like a month until she had decided to 81 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,160 do surgery on me. And it won't be my breast. 82 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:28,040 And so when you're talking about doing surgery in that area as a 83 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,240 woman, you're not wanting to, you know, modify your body or 84 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,440 mutilate your body. And so I agreed, though, because 85 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,600 I had no idea that our health, our medical system was broken at 86 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,440 that time. So I agreed. 87 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,840 We went in, she cut part of part of it off, and I got back out a 88 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,160 day later. It was still infected and it was 89 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,320 engorged and it was painful. And so we went on antibiotics 90 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,960 again. And and this was by August, she 91 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,320 decided to do another surgery. And I'm like, listen, lady, I'm 92 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,400 starting real estate school. I can't be in all this pain. 93 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,680 We have to take care of this because I needed my brain to go 94 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,880 to real estate school. It's, you know, kind of a hard, 95 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,760 hard, hard thing to do. So she went in and done surgery 96 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,680 again and she didn't get it. I had it was inflamed again the 97 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,720 next day. And I'm like, what is going on? 98 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,400 Like, how can a doctor just go in and start cutting parts off 99 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,600 of you and not knowing what she's doing? 100 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,840 Because as a person with family members in the medical field, as 101 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,880 a doctor, I, I went to medical school, but it was kind of like 102 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:47,640 a small little medical school. But, but I know that my aunt had 103 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:50,480 friends in the medical field. And if you don't know what 104 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,000 you're doing, you send them to the, the doctor. 105 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,360 That's your buddy that does know what they're doing. 106 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,040 That's my opinion. And instead of just cutting on 107 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,920 someone. And so I researched myself and I 108 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,280 found this lady who was a breast disorder specialist. 109 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:13,160 And when I went in, because I had told the the doctor, the 110 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,560 previous doctor, let's do you think I should just re Pierce 111 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,000 it? Because I was just going to go 112 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,440 to a parlor and have it re pierced and be done with it. 113 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,280 And she's like, oh, don't do that. 114 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,000 So I didn't, you know, I didn't because that was her advice and 115 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,800 I thought she knew what she was doing. 116 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,880 But when I went to the new breast disorder specialist, I 117 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,480 told her what I thought, like we should just re Pierce it and 118 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,440 push whatever is in there out of there. 119 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,520 That's exactly what this lady did. 120 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,920 And she was 30 days from retiring. 121 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,920 So just by the grace of God, I grew into her, her office and 122 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,440 she's seen me and she was just the most beautiful lady. 123 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:56,520 And, and so that was in October and I have finished real estate 124 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,880 school and I, that's when I, you know, I was thinking about, wow, 125 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,520 there's something wrong with our medical system. 126 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,680 Like, how could this happen? This, this, I should not be 127 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,760 reaching out to someone myself. The Doctor Who I went to should 128 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,560 have. And like I, I don't know if we 129 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,040 talked about this yet, but I was on a journey to rebrand my name, 130 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,880 shall I say, just I got clean and sober in 2016. 131 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:32,039 And you know, during those few years, so 2002 is when the 132 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:35,480 surgery and stuff was. But during all that time I had 133 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,799 got a home, I had got a great job. 134 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:41,280 I had done all the things that you do when you get sober from 135 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,160 alcohol and marijuana or some people think that they can use 136 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,520 it and, and be OK. But I got clean and sober and 137 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,480 got the home and everything was a car, all the stuff. 138 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,920 But I didn't change my friends. So I was still hanging out with 139 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,480 those friends. And then inevitably I started 140 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,520 drinking and smoking on the weekends. 141 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,680 I kept my job, kept my still have my home, all the stuff. 142 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:10,400 But I was still partaking in that. 143 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,440 And I knew that I could be somebody better than that. 144 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Not judging my friends, but I knew that I had something in me 145 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,960 that I wanted, I just wanted to find. 146 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,760 And that's why I was listening to all those motivational 147 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,480 speakers. I, I wanted something more for 148 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:36,920 my mind, body and soul. And, and so finding Joe Rogan on 149 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:42,000 that podcast and listening to him talk about carnivore, I 150 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,000 decided that maybe I need to try this. 151 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,840 Like Michaela, she cured her health problems and and I was 152 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,520 still chubby because at that time I was vegan and I was doing 153 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:59,720 all this juicing and and being healthy, not eating protein, 154 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,960 maybe some chicken wings every now and then. 155 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:08,320 And so from December to March, I started researching because I 156 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,440 was all about researching, staying home, listening to these 157 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:19,440 people that motivated me. And I decided March 23rd, 2023 158 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,080 to start carnivore. So I put the juicer away. 159 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,800 No more fruits and vegetables. And me, because of my 160 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,200 addictions, I had to throw everything in my refrigerator 161 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,880 and my cabinets away because if I seen it there and, and that 162 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,280 was probably a couple weeks in to going carnivore. 163 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,720 If I had ketchup in my refrigerator, I was going to put 164 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,320 that on my hamburger. And I just wanted to go all in 165 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,680 with this carnivore because of what I've had heard from other 166 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:55,800 people. And so I decided I threw 167 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,040 everything away. Anything that wasn't opened 168 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,000 though, I donated it to a women's shelter. 169 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,320 I took it over there and I started my carnivore journey. 170 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Within 30 days, I was looking like a totally different human 171 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,480 and I couldn't drink anymore. I couldn't smoke on the 172 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,880 weekends. It just made me feel poisoned. 173 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,320 It made me feel horrible. So that was nipped in the bud 174 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:24,480 and I was very grateful for that. 175 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:30,720 So then within 60 days I was looking like I had been going to 176 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,440 the gym and I hadn't went to the gym one time. 177 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,320 I was just working everyday and coming home, eating and going to 178 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,120 bed. I didn't do anything extra and I 179 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,920 kept it pretty simple. I ate bacon and eggs and and 180 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,840 hamburger. It was rare that I got to eat a 181 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,840 steak, but I would buy a Chuck roast and slice it up and, and 182 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,480 make call that my poor man's steak. 183 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:00,160 And 90 days in, I was feeling fabulous. 184 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,280 And and then I started getting mad at the medical system 185 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,120 because my father died of cancer. 186 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,320 And I realized this food is what is causing all these diseases 187 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,840 and problems. And I lost my dad. 188 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,160 So I didn't want anybody else to lose their. 189 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Yeah, I didn't want anybody else to lose family members. 190 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,320 And I I knew that these people suffering going to the hospitals 191 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,160 were it was from their food. And I just wanted to shake them. 192 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,680 And so I made a brochure and, and I was going to go to the 193 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:36,600 hospitals and start passing them out. 194 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,160 But first I went to the Secretary of State's office 195 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,600 because it's here in Jefferson City where I live. 196 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,960 And I wanted to tell them. I wanted to talk to the governor 197 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,400 and I wanted to say, listen, I found the secret. 198 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:52,200 I found what's going on with everybody, like it's the food, 199 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,200 let's help them, you know? And so I went in there and I 200 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,160 talked to the the secretary. His secretary came out, started 201 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,800 talking to me and I told her and I showed her my brochure and 202 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,800 stuff and she laughed at me and, and you can tell she's 203 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,760 unhealthy, but that's when I knew I can't be talking about 204 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,240 this. Like, First off, it's just 205 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:22,880 little bitty me, you know, and this is bigger than than I could 206 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,200 ever imagine. So I was put the brochures in my 207 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,480 drawer. I came home, I made it. 208 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,720 He started a YouTube channel and I may have posted on Facebook 209 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,120 every now and then about it, but I, I just started healing people 210 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,480 in my community or helping people in my community instead 211 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:49,640 of trying to go nationwide because all I could think about 212 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,080 was them hurting me for hurting the hospitals or the grocery 213 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,880 stores and taking their money away. 214 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,760 So it, it scared me a little bit. 215 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,600 And then I just, yeah, I just started posting and, and talked 216 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,640 to people who wanted to listen and just forgot all about the 217 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,080 government. And then I figured that's why 218 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,120 they get paid so much money the the government and the doctors, 219 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,640 just because it's shut up money. You know, that's my opinion. 220 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,440 Yeah, you know, you're dead right. 221 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,400 And honestly, I love your passion. 222 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,080 I love how you're so passionate about this lifestyle. 223 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Obviously, it's not the change in your life. 224 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Listening to your story is remarkable and I can hear the 225 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,320 frustration. I can literally hear the 226 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,320 frustration. But we, but we need to get back 227 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,200 to where we are in the world at the moment. 228 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Lesian. There's no money in healthy 229 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,040 people, unfortunately. And that's, that's the reason 230 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,640 why they're stirred. They're against us at the 231 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 moment. And it's unfortunate because we 232 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,880 all we say this all the time, don't we, Victoria? 233 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,240 We we do these podcasts and we know that they're not going to 234 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,160 do well, unfortunately, like most people, yeah. 235 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,840 We only get like 100. Yeah, it's like we only get like 236 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,080 100 views. And we've done well over 400 237 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,840 episodes at this stage. And we're trying, we're trying 238 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,320 to get, we're trying to other platforms. 239 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,640 Yeah. But the thing about it is like, 240 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,640 but the thing about it is, though, we're here. 241 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,760 We're here in the likes of your story, Leslie Ann, and people 242 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,840 should be hearing this, you know, I mean, because you've 243 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,440 you've healed your body. You're going on about your 244 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,280 father, how how painful that was. 245 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,120 I can understand that. I went through that myself. 246 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,560 I can hear basically the emotion. 247 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,640 I want to ask you this question because this is this is what 248 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,800 drives me crazy as well. What's your opinion? 249 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,360 I'm sure you see it all the time. 250 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,040 You switch on social media and everybody is just demonizing the 251 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,520 kind of board. They'll say it's a fads, it's 252 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,520 not real, like it's going to lead to heart disease. 253 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,800 And there you are. You're literally saying this 254 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,480 changed my life. What, what? 255 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,440 What? What do you say to that that 256 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,920 nonsense? So I think people have a 257 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:59,080 relationship with their food and their health problems and their 258 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,640 medicine that they take from the doctor. 259 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:09,000 So it's easier to say I'm crazy than to fix what's going on in 260 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,520 their lives. Like it's just, and, and it 261 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,680 makes them feel better and it's comfortable. 262 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,120 They, they're already in there. You know, the way they're doing 263 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,720 things. And listen, I was them too. 264 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,600 You know what I mean? Like I didn't believe anything I 265 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:28,240 heard until I tried it. So you, until you try it, you 266 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,720 really don't know what you're talking about. 267 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,480 And then a lot of people, they've tried so many diets that 268 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,880 they don't realize that carnivore is a lifestyle in the 269 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,400 way we're supposed to eat instead of a diet when you're 270 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,360 still ingesting chemicals and all this stuff that that Big 271 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,640 pharma literally made in some factory. 272 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,880 We see what they'll come back with this, this BS argument. 273 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,200 Show me the research. But you're looking at it. 274 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,920 There's three of us here that are the research. 275 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Three of us. So what? 276 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,640 What else do you want? So when you ask them, OK, you're 277 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,480 looking at the research here and then you are, and then you 278 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,440 follow it up with another question, OK, That research that 279 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,319 you've read, is it yours? Did you design it? 280 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,880 Did you, did you have anything to do with those trials? 281 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,400 No. So you're believing something 282 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,560 that you have no idea if it's true or not. 283 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,240 Whereas you're look, you're looking at me, I am the 284 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,000 researcher, I'm doing this, I've been doing this for over 9 years 285 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,800 now and you're calling me a liar. 286 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,120 Yeah, you know what? I mean. 287 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,880 The the man that sold me the juicer, he still stands on that 288 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:43,240 juicing heals people and you know, is the reason why he has 289 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,720 great eyesight and all this, but it's the money that he's made 290 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:55,000 over the past 30 years with selling the juicers that is more 291 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:00,600 his motivation for juicing. That's my opinion because he 292 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,880 can't show me any of these people that say that their life 293 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,960 has changed after juicing. But he can tell me, you know, 294 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,280 and I look at him and he's not the healthiest and this is no 295 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,680 dig to him at all whatsoever. I love him. 296 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:19,320 But you get so brainwashed and believe what you're saying that 297 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,440 you're going to say it until the cows come home. 298 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,480 Exactly. And we need to, I mean, we need 299 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,080 to get back to some common sense here. 300 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,120 The system that we're all, that we're all listening to, the 301 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,800 system that we're all listening to at the moment isn't working. 302 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,840 I mean, let's be honest, is it working? 303 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,720 Nowhere near. Because if it did, we wouldn't 304 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,040 have a National Health crisis. At the moment. 305 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,000 Everything is going up. Everything type 2, obesity, 306 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,640 fatty liver disease, mental health, you know, I mean, the 307 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,240 list goes on and on and on. People are people are struggling 308 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,200 out there. There's a lot of people out 309 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,800 there that are struggling. I only came from, I only came 310 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,120 from an event that we set up last week. 311 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Everybody that came to this event has some sort of condition 312 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,120 in that room now. They were struggling, every 313 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:05,440 single one of them. And then that's the reason why 314 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,120 they were at that. That's the reason why they came 315 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,640 to that event because we're like, you know, what I saw for 316 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,360 years and years and years, I was broken. 317 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,280 But now you're telling me, you're telling me there could be 318 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,760 hope here. You're telling me that I might, 319 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,160 I might be able to get off this medication eventually. 320 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,120 Yes, I am. I am. 321 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:23,840 Come and see me and let's have a little conversation. 322 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,720 And that's what we want. We want here. 323 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,640 We want people to hear a different voice. 324 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,400 You know, I mean, at the moment we're only hearing one voice and 325 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,000 they're all, they're all trying to shut us down. 326 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,680 And unfortunately, they're winning because that's what 327 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,720 that's what's, that's what drives This is Money. 328 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,520 Well, I hope not. I hope they're not winning, but 329 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,440 they're louder than we are. And but. 330 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,920 It's money or entire Victoria. It's all about money, you know 331 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,440 what I mean? They have the power. 332 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,240 What is the money? Yeah, because we've, if you, if 333 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,960 you went on social media, if you went on social media and start 334 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,040 speaking about a sugar diet tomorrow, that would be all over 335 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:06,360 social media. Yeah, yeah. 336 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:09,200 I watched my analytics on YouTube, and I could see that 337 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,440 they were deleting comments. They were deleting my 338 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,120 subscribers. And, you know, after a few 339 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:17,680 months of it, I got a bad taste, so I didn't even want to share. 340 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,840 But then, you know, a few months ago, I decided, no, get back on 341 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,000 there. Leslie, you need to tell your 342 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,760 story. Don't worry about what naysayers 343 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,480 say or what they're doing to you. 344 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,520 I'm not trying to make money anyway. 345 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,480 Money's just as evil as the food. 346 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,160 That's my opinion, you know, and so I just went ahead and started 347 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,040 posting again. I don't just do carnivore 348 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,080 either. Like I don't put chemicals on my 349 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,360 body. I rarely take a shower. 350 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,000 I don't use deep soap. I don't use shampoo. 351 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,400 I don't, there's a lot of things that I don't do, you know, on 352 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,000 top of just being carnivore because I know that everything 353 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,600 is hurting us in some way or another. 354 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,360 And talk to you about this, since you've been carnivore, I 355 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,640 presume you've lost an awful lot of friends. 356 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,520 You're drinking buddies compared to what you had in the past. 357 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,720 Talk me through that process because I, I presume that's what 358 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,480 happens. I mean, it usually happens to me 359 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,920 as well. I, I usually, I, when I came to 360 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,880 carnivore space, a lot of people saw me as the boredom one. 361 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,400 Now I'm not the entertainer because I, I live my life now 362 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,360 very, very bored. And I like the only podcasts. 363 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,680 I like going to bed early, I like looking after myself. 364 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,440 I like going to the gym on a regular basis. 365 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,920 So I'm not part of that nightlife anymore. 366 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,080 So talk me through that change that What happened to you. 367 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,640 So yeah, we just, I just stopped hanging out with them because 368 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,120 every weekend we would like go to a bar, we would, you know, 369 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:51,760 get together at someone's house and drink and smoke. 370 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,120 And it just, that doesn't happen anymore. 371 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,160 So I only get to see them through Facebook. 372 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,640 We don't have, I'm sure that I could go hang out with them. 373 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,440 They wouldn't mind because I still love them, you know? 374 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,840 But I don't want to go to a bar. I don't want to go out to eat at 375 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,640 a pizza joint. I don't partake in the things 376 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,200 that they partake in so I'm pretty much a loner in my town. 377 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,480 I do have clone more friends that I talked to online and 378 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,480 we're doing a meet up in Branson, MO in November. 379 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,640 I did hear one of my will help. One of my girlfriends from when 380 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,680 I was 19 years old were best friends and she went keto 381 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,160 carnivore and it's changed her life as well. 382 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,600 She was all about canning vegetables and and doing all 383 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,160 that stuff until last year. So this year she grew a garden, 384 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,680 but she fed everything to her chickens and her her animals on 385 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,040 the floor. And that's beautiful to see. 386 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,320 You know that they're taking my advice because nobody would have 387 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,200 took my advice three years ago. You know, I was going to the 388 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,160 bar. You're not going to. 389 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,120 You just wouldn't. And so that makes you feel 390 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:12,120 really good that your people are listening to you and taking your 391 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:15,040 advice now. But yeah, I don't really have 392 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,360 the social friendships like I had before at all. 393 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,600 It's a bit it's, it's sad, isn't it? 394 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,480 Because you, it's, it's sad that you're losing the, the, you you 395 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,960 thought the people that were friends. 396 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,600 And I think when you come into this space, you really know who 397 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,280 your friends are because the ones that stick with you all the 398 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,560 way through are still with you now. 399 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,840 Whereas you, you know who those people that were just leeches 400 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,200 pretty much. They weren't in your friends in 401 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,320 the first place. And the people that are in my 402 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,600 life now encourage me. They love me and they show up 403 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,240 for me. None of my old friends encourage 404 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,040 me, show up for me. They don't, you know, and it's 405 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,920 not about likes and comments. So, you know, I don't really 406 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,440 want to put that there, but that's where everybody is at is 407 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,240 on Facebook and YouTube and none of them say that a girl, Oh my 408 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080 God, you're killing it. I mean, there's maybe a couple, 409 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,880 but I had hundreds of friends. I've been in this town all my 410 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,880 life. And so, you know, that right 411 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,160 there kind of shows you how broken our society is, is when 412 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,200 people aren't even happy for you, when you're thriving. 413 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,920 It's like they cut misery loves company. 414 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,960 Maybe not sure, but you know, and and I feel bad for them 415 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,800 because a lot of them just don't look good. 416 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,320 And this is not a dig. So I don't want to be like I'm 417 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,720 hurting my friends, you know, but they're just unhealthy and 418 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,400 and they're not living. They think they're living their 419 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,200 best life, but they're not. And, and it's so sad because I 420 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,360 know how I feel and I feel better now than I did when I was 421 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,160 a teenager. I've never felt this good. 422 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,200 Never. I, I feel like I am a superwoman 423 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,640 and I could go swing in the jungle. 424 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,720 You know, this is something that I've never experienced. 425 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,960 I grew up on fried chicken and Bologna and, and just all the 426 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,640 processed foods. And so getting all that out of 427 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,400 my body and just eating red meat. 428 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,720 It really is what we're supposed to be eating. 429 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,440 And they just. But that's why I don't really 430 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,600 blame my friends for that situation because at the end of 431 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,000 the day, it's not their fault. It's the food and the alcohol 432 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,680 that's taken over their life, unfortunately so. 433 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,240 So unless they reached that other side, they hit that wall 434 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,880 moment and like, OK, now I want to do this. 435 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,880 But unfortunately, like many people that get into the 436 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,320 carnivore space, they get into the carnivore space for a 437 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,520 reason. Like you have your story. 438 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,600 I have my story. My I got into carnivore very, 439 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,000 very late. I wish I knew about this when I 440 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,400 was very, very young. I wish I knew about this when I 441 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,280 was 18 years of age. But I think that's where we go. 442 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,600 We wait until we're desperate, we're in a desperate situation 443 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,640 and then we'll make the change. And I think unfortunately, that 444 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,560 these friends that you have and I have, it's not going to 445 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,000 probably become a reality until their health declines like 446 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,880 really badly. And then they'd be like, OK, 447 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,360 well, Mark looks amazing. Lesley Ann looks amazing. 448 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,080 Maybe I might do what they're doing. 449 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,560 It might, there might be something in this. 450 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,760 But then at that stage, it could be, it could be too late. 451 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,600 It could be way too late, you know, And that's the important 452 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,640 thing. Yeah, one of my clients. 453 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,000 So her husband was sick and dying and and I was like change 454 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,080 his diet, quit making it, quit letting him drink Mountain Dew, 455 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,960 quit feeding him all that processed up, get him red meat. 456 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,240 And they would never hardly ever eat red meat. 457 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,440 And if they did, it was just, if they went to a steakhouse and 458 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,520 she would make all the gravy and the soups and all that and he 459 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,400 would only drink Mountain Dew and she go, she told me when I 460 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,640 told her that, she said I'm not going to do that to him. 461 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,760 If he's on his deathbed, he can eat whatever he wants. 462 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,160 And it just breaks the heart because it's like, no, if I was 463 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,400 married, I'd be like, you ain't getting none of that. 464 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,560 You're not bringing it in the house. 465 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,280 We are healing you, baby. Like that's what love is. 466 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,040 But but everybody celebrates and shows love with food. 467 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:14,320 So that's all. That's all we've done was, you 468 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,600 know, give people a chocolate cake. 469 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,680 Like even when someone dies, people bring you all this 470 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,720 poisonous food afterwards and it's like, what is going on? 471 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600 I feel like I'm in the Twilight zone. 472 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,800 And see, that's what that's what happened to my partner's 473 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,680 parents. I got really, really frustrated 474 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,720 because they went through cancer themselves and they said they're 475 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,200 sadly not here anymore. But what drove me crazy about 476 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,920 that situation was and people bringing in like fruits and 477 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,360 cakes and biscuits and all this nonsense. 478 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,760 And it's very, very hard to explain to these people that 479 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,480 you're doing more harm to these, this, this to these people. 480 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560 And it's really, really hard because they don't understand 481 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,920 it. And This is why I, that's why I 482 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,720 don't feel what's the word I'm looking for. 483 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,840 I don't feel guilty about the situation too much because 484 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,680 they're they're broken and they don't understand it. 485 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,480 Even though you come, I would never come down too hard on 486 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,600 these people because they don't they don't understand, you know, 487 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,120 I mean, they just they just think they're doing a good 488 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:23,400 deeds, but they don't they don't understand what me and you know, 489 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:28,200 that's the problem. Right, so we here growing up how 490 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:30,840 healthy fruits and vegetables are, right? 491 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,880 So read this book and I have it right here just so I can show 492 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,120 you. They didn't start making fruits 493 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,680 and vegetables until 1770, and that was during the great Reset 494 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,280 of there was this big reset. And if you've never seen that 495 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,280 fruit or vegetable growing wild in the woods or the jungle, it's 496 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,440 not real. The royalty hired A botanist to 497 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,000 create edible plants to feed the peasants. 498 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,880 And that is in this book, The Royal Art of Poison. 499 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:10,560 And it literally says that they the royalty only ate meat with 500 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,320 honey glazed every now and then. So they did they were feeding 501 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,720 the fruits and vegetables to the the peasants. 502 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,480 And then when that reset happened and all those 503 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:27,560 orphanages and, and the, they would put them in the fields and 504 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,080 they would grow crops. And so then that's when it 505 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,560 started. And then our great grandparents 506 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,040 did it. And then our great, our great, 507 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,760 great grandparents and our great grandparents and then our 508 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,240 grandparents. So that's how we learned it. 509 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,000 We don't, we've never talked to the people or, you know, have 510 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,200 gotten that information from our great, great, great, great 511 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,160 grandparents. So we don't really know what was 512 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,480 going on, you know, And until you want to do the research and 513 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,000 learn, you're going to believe that what your grandmother ate 514 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,680 was good for you, you know, because you thought we were. 515 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,480 Wrong. And the thing about it is like 516 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,600 when you look at our food supply now, it's nowhere near the same 517 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,600 as what it was 100 or 200 years ago. 518 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,880 I mean, you look at a piece of fruit or a or a vegetable, Let 519 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,880 me look at a banana or a strawberry. 520 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,760 You look at a strawberry 100 years ago, but it was about that 521 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,240 size strawberry. But now they're now they're that 522 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,040 big, they're huge. And they're more sweeter When 523 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,120 you look at fruit like 100 years ago, they don't look sweet. 524 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,320 They don't look sweet at all. Whereas now they're they're 525 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,200 extremely sweet. And then we get this nonsense 526 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,400 that does fructose in fruits yesterday is but guess what else 527 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,680 is in fruit soup, roast. And where does sucrose come 528 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,080 from? It's a cane sugar. 529 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,720 Now where does cane sugar come from? 530 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,640 It comes from most processed foods. 531 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,240 So so when so when they say to you fruit is healthy. 532 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:04,680 Absolute horse shit. Yep, people don't have to. 533 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,120 They they just don't have time to educate themselves either. 534 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,840 Because look at how everybody has to work 2 jobs now to pay 535 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,320 their bills. They they have to walk their 536 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,360 dog, they have to take their kid to ballerina classes. 537 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,000 You know, they got to clean their house, they got to do all 538 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,560 this stuff that they don't have time to do the research, nor is 539 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,600 that the priority. The priority is just getting the 540 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,080 kids fed so they can get to sleep, so they can wake up at 541 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,680 3:00 AM and go to work. Like I have have time. 542 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,120 I had decided, you know, after the real estate, after I went to 543 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,560 school for real estate and realized how crooked real estate 544 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,040 agents are. I knew that that's not what I 545 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,520 wanted to be. You know, all the things that I 546 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,440 learned in real estate school about what we had to do to get 547 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,720 make those sales I'm like, I don't want no part of. 548 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,280 And so I was transforming who I was and I wanted to do 549 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,960 everything right by God, you know, I wanted to to just be the 550 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,480 best human I could be. And so I figured out money is 551 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,280 not how you become the best person you can. 552 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:20,840 It's on the inside you being happy is from from being proud 553 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,640 of everything you do, everything you say, how you walk, how you 554 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,080 treat people, how you keep your home, what you eat. 555 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,240 Like I'm, I'm proud and I'm happy and that's how you get 556 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,520 them. And so my time is way more 557 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,960 important to me than any amount of money. 558 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,560 And then first, you know, God sees that and I am blessed. 559 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,680 Like I barely have to work or have my own little cleaning 560 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,640 business. I work maybe 10 days a month. 561 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,640 I get to watch my grandson every day during the week. 562 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,120 When you're doing all the right things, all the right things 563 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,400 happen. I totally agree with you. 564 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,520 I mean, I've always said that I'm in this for my reputation. 565 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,960 I mean, if my life changed tomorrow, and obviously I'm 566 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,160 quite, I'm doing OK at the moment with my online business. 567 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,840 But if it got to the stage where I'm doing extraordinarily well, 568 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,160 I'm I'm, I can, I can put my hand on my heart and tell you 569 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,080 straight, it wouldn't change this person because, yeah, this 570 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,960 is much more to me now than a business. 571 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,600 This is your. I have never studied anything so 572 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,560 more in my life than the kind of our diet. 573 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,000 This lifestyle, this diet is so personal to me now because of 574 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,440 what happened to my my partner's parents. 575 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,080 And unlike you, I have, I feel like now I have a voice, I have 576 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,960 a mission. There's a lot of people that are 577 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,560 relying on me and I don't want to let them down. 578 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,600 And at the end of the day, I don't, I don't, I don't market 579 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,840 myself anymore. So what happens is a lot of 580 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,240 people watch my contents. They keep watching it and then 581 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,840 eventually they reach out to me and say, well, I've been 582 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,760 watching you for months and months and months. 583 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,240 I wanted to reach out to you, but now I, I didn't have the 584 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,280 guts to do it, but now I do. And I say to these people, 585 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,800 thanks very much because this is going to be the best decision 586 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,239 you will ever make in your life. And nine times out of 10, 587 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,199 everybody gets the results I get and I get amazing messages off 588 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,520 these people like remarkable messages, life changing 589 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,239 messages. That's the end. 590 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,840 That's what means the most to me. 591 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,679 Those when I get, I mean, I've, I've been doing this over 9 592 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,080 years. You know, I've had a good amount 593 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,600 of pregnancies on my plan. Now these women have come to me 594 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,600 where they've been, they were told like you're never going to 595 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,520 get pregnant unless you go down the IVF route because that's my 596 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,120 area. I specialize in fertility. 597 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,679 And I say to these women, just give me 6 months, what have you 598 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:50,679 got to lose? And they're like, what, what are 599 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:51,880 you going to do? Because we'll have to get on a 600 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,560 call with them to convince them to walk me in the 1st place. 601 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,760 And once they got in that call with them, they're like, OK, I 602 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,960 want to do this. So we get, we, we get, we get to 603 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,080 working together. We're doing this for six months. 604 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,280 Within five months, I'm getting a message back, Mark, it's a 605 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,960 miracle. This time next year, I'm going 606 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,040 to have a baby. You're going to make me cry. 607 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,000 It's incredible. Honestly, it's just it's, it's, 608 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,880 I mean, honestly, the hairs on my arms are that's, I mean, I 609 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,760 get goosebumps. Listen, and I'm not even a 610 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,360 doctor. I'm not even a doctor. 611 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,040 I know nothing about the medical care. 612 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,600 But when I hear things like that, now, that's not that's I'm 613 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,160 not talking about one case. I'm talking about a good few, a 614 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,320 good few cases that I've had and many since since I've had one of 615 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,680 them because I have, I have one of those testimonials on my 616 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,160 Instagram. Since I put that, that 617 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,640 testimonial up on my Instagram, I had many, many people reaching 618 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,160 out to me, females and they were saying to me, I'm not coming to 619 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,040 see you to lose weight. I'm coming to see you because I 620 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,120 want to start a family. That's that's what most people 621 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,520 come to see. Now when people come to see me, 622 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,040 it's amazing how they're putting faith in me and not the medical 623 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,280 system. It's. 624 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,080 Powerful. Powerful. 625 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,480 It really is powerful. It's that feeling is way better 626 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,080 than any amount of money you could ever possibly. 100 627 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,680 percent, 100%, definitely when you see another life been 628 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,040 brought into the world when it when you were told it wouldn't 629 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,640 happen. I mean, how many women out there 630 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,000 are, are literally broken when they see Christmas coming 631 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,640 around, Halloween coming around and they see all these parents 632 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,880 going around their lovely children and they're like, 633 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,240 they're like, I would love to have a daughter or a son of my 634 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,800 own. And they've been told, they've 635 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,280 been told it's not going to happen. 636 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,360 That's what that's what makes me really, really angry. 637 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,840 I'm like, how do you know this is not going to happen? 638 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,800 Because you've been told one thing you should not say, OK, 639 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,960 that's your only option. I'm not saying what I do is your 640 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,120 only option. But what I can say is what have 641 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,640 you got to lose? If you work with me and we do 642 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,920 this for six months and we, I mean make a difference and you 643 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,040 and you eventually get that call and you are going to have a 644 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,880 child next year. How can these people say to you 645 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080 that what you're done is wrong? They can't. 646 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,720 They just can't. It's impossible. 647 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,560 And none of those people that told these women that was never 648 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,600 going to happen. I've gotten back to me, not one. 649 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,680 So they've never gotten back to me and said, how did you do 650 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,720 this? Tell me how you did it. 651 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,760 Not one of them got back to me. That's that's. 652 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,560 Terrible, it's terrible. You would think they would want 653 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,520 to know. And and that's my other question 654 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,920 is like, how are these doctors? I know they go to school and 655 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,440 they're educated through big pharma is the one who designed 656 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,440 the medical education system, but how are they going and and 657 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,440 never hearing about carnivore? How is it never atonic? 658 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,000 How is how is how are they not asking in class? 659 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:02,280 How do we cure this? I don't want to treat it, but 660 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,720 what's the cure? Because they can't all be 661 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:10,960 healthy in medical school by eating in the it's weird. 662 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,560 It's weird to me it. Certainly is. 663 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,440 So what are you eating at the moment? 664 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,440 What's what's what's your day look like? 665 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,320 Food. Food was. 666 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,600 So I will eat whatever I want as long as it's meat. 667 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:32,480 Today I had salmon and I put I normally have nothing on my 668 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,040 meats but I put some basil and lemon on it today and garlic and 669 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,800 pepper. Now, if I did that every day, I 670 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,040 would get inflammation. Anything that I put on food 671 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,520 causes inflammation, even salt. So I stay away from everything. 672 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:54,840 I just will have burgers. I will have Chuck roast. 673 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,760 And I take my roast and I slice it in the slicer and I fry it in 674 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,680 bacon grease or tallow. And it makes me feel like I'm 675 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,120 having a steak. And yeah. 676 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,920 And so sometimes I have raw meat. 677 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,960 I've ate. I do raw liver a lot. 678 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,760 Raw liver. I do steak tartare. 679 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,600 That's with the hamburger and raw egg. 680 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,560 And I've had goat brains a couple times. 681 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,280 The very first time I had them, I was awake for two days after I 682 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,440 ate them. I ate them at night, though, so 683 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,560 that was probably a problem too. I should have never ate them at 684 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,000 night. But yeah, I, I was running 685 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,240 around my neighborhood at one O clock in the morning trying to 686 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,320 figure out what I was going to do with all the energy. 687 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,760 But I had to relearn, like I said, I I started over. 688 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:52,120 I wanted to do things my way and I if it made sense, you know, 689 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:57,120 you think about the Indians or tribal people and they drink the 690 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,440 goat blood or they eat the organs. 691 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,160 Like, I knew there was something about that because if they're 692 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,680 doing it way before we, you know, had stoves in our kitchen, 693 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,440 there's got to be something to it. 694 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,320 So I did it and now I know it was pretty energy. 695 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,600 Yeah, like, well, the when you mentioned the brain of the goal, 696 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,400 I mean, it's, it's probably about 95% fat. 697 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,080 So you're getting all that good energy from the brain. 698 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,840 So yeah, I mean, and, and that's why I always say to people like 699 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,240 if you're going to replace 1 energy source, you've got to 700 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:31,720 replace it with different energy source. 701 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,840 You can't just go on these high protein diets because I think 702 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,760 that's why a lot of people fail when they go on carnivores 703 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,840 because they go on, they go, they go very, very high protein 704 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,640 and they don't they don't put in enough fats. 705 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,040 Because we're seeing a lot of people now going from carnivore 706 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,880 and they're bringing the carbohydrates back in and they 707 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,080 think that the diet, there's something wrong with the diet. 708 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,680 But I'm convinced it's not the diet. 709 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,240 I'm convinced it's that you're the problem, you're doing 710 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,320 something wrong. Either, you know, either you 711 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,360 either you still have some sweeteners or some dairy, or 712 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,520 you're probably over trained. And I can guarantee you I can 713 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,160 find out what the problem is very, very quickly because at 714 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,640 the end of the day, you're doing it. 715 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,840 I'm doing it. I've been doing kind of our nine 716 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,440 years. I don't miss the carbohydrates. 717 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,320 I don't miss the sugars at all. I don't miss them at all. 718 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,160 The best thing I ever did was get rid of them. 719 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,080 I mean my my, my relationship with food has never been better. 720 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,400 You know what I mean? Like people, it makes me it 721 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,120 make. I was just going to add one 722 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,280 thing. It makes me laugh when people 723 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,040 say that the carnivore diet is an eating disorder, but if 724 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,640 anything carnivore actually fixes your relationship with. 725 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,000 Food and I think that it's coming from an addiction 726 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,240 background, you know, we are a little stronger than most people 727 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:49,760 by doing this because it is hard. 728 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:56,800 It is very hard to stop drinking those sodas or eating that pecan 729 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,520 pie or whatever, you know, especially if someone's in front 730 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,840 of you eating it. Like you have to have mind 731 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,880 power, you have to want it worse. 732 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,480 You have to want it more than the air you're breathing. 733 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,200 And so a lot of people don't really want things that bad, you 734 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,800 know what I mean? It has to come to life or death. 735 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,600 And then even when it's life or death, they're not down to to 736 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,920 have quitting their favorite Starbucks drink or something. 737 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,280 Like, I don't know, it's crazy, but the food is what's making 738 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,320 everyone mentally ill. And I feel like it's just got a 739 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,960 hold on people. Nobody can ever ridicule me for 740 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,200 being a alcoholic or smoking marijuana because everybody out 741 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,320 there is addicted to something. And, you know, you know, I felt 742 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,320 like I was always being picked on because I was a drinker and a 743 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,000 smoker. But honestly, the food is worse 744 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,040 than any of that. I mean, it's all bad. 745 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,800 Don't get me wrong. It's it's all yeah, look at me 746 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,120 now. Exactly, exactly. 747 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,120 Well said. Well, I I want to be respectful 748 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,520 of your time, but before I let you go, where can people go to 749 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,240 find you? Leslie Ann Blank on Facebook. 750 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:17,160 Leslie Ann is 1/1 name and then Leslie Ann the carnivore on 751 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,280 YouTube. And I like to share what I'm 752 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,520 eating daily so that it could give people ideas of how cheap 753 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,800 carnivore really is. I put on how much it cost me and 754 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,680 and what I'm having each day. That's very important to me. 755 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,040 And then I also share my progress, what I look like at 55 756 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,840 years old, and how we can all elevate at any age, whether 757 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,760 you're 55 or 95, this diet or this lifestyle will change your 758 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,240 life. It will transform you. 759 00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,160 Love that. Love that final message. 760 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,200 Well, Leslie Ann, honestly, it's been a pleasure meeting you. 761 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,200 Thank you very much for coming on to our podcast and I wish you 762 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,640 nothing but the best going forward. 763 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,360 Thank you for having me. You too, Mark. 764 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,360 And I'll speak to you soon. Bye bye if you get value. 765 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,520 From this podcast, please hit subscribe, drop a like comment 766 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,920 and share this episode. It really helps spread the word 767 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,960 on carnivore. Want support on the diet? 768 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:22,400 e-mail ennismark93@gmail.com for a free consultation. 769 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,120 New clients are welcome. Now in memory of our dear friend 770 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,160 Rocky, the Jack Russell Terrier who will always be in our 771 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,800 hearts.