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So I think with the obesity is a
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I think the major, I think it's 
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very carb driven. 
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historical context needs to be 
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India was an agrarian society 
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one or two times a day. 
It was fast and like they would 

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fast and then they would feast. 
But people right now are eating 

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processed foods again, plant 

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foods only ultra processed 
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So there is inflammation coming 
from grains which are which 

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again a lot of people are 
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insensitivities towards gluten 
and cereals and all, but they do

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not know because they just keep 
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major symptoms. 
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the seed oils. 
So I think these are the biggest

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it remains high, your hunger 
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And we are live. 
Welcome to another episode of 

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the Carnivore Evolution podcast.
Today I have Barsha all the way 

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from II is going to speak to us 
about how she struggled with 

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food addiction, how she came 
over, how she became over her 

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health issues. 
So, Barsha, how are you today? 

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I'm doing great. 
Thank you. 

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How about you? 
I'm very, very well. 

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So before we start talking 
everything about carnivore, give

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me a little back story on you 
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Sure. 
So I've struggled with food 

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addiction like throughout my 
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It was more of secret eating and
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sweet items. 
I at one point when I was 809, I

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even stole my brother's formula 
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And also the cerelac, which is 
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for babies. 
I would eat that straight out 

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the can and then I would eat 
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were meant for guests, I would 
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would only be wrappers my age. 
I knew it was wrong, but that 

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addiction was something I could 
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Like if there was a box of 
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that was there in my house, I 
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really like I started gaining a 

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lot of weight. 
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at the age of 11. 
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severe cystic acne that would 
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that's the age when people get 
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I, I was interested in the idea 
of vegetarianism because is the 

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land where we have 30% of people
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It is always like every time I 
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So I grew up in Saudi Arabia, 
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Doctor Who's of Indian origin, 
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and eggs, actually enjoyed 
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So I started thinking that, oh, 
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some weight to it. 
You know, they are doctors and I

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don't know anything, right? 
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because my acne was so bad, like
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scarring actually, but a lot of 
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eating everything from an 
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They would tell me go vegan, eat
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drink fruit juice. 
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that's the time I found this 
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great about vegetarianism and 
veganism. 

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Also, there were some Youtubers 
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some like Freely the Banana 
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weight. 
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So my problem was, one, food 
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I loved sweet things, sweet and 
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Two, I wanted to lose weight. 
I want to look good. 

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Three, I wanted my acne gone. 
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the Fit for Life book. 
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eating live foods and then 
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animals. 
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But my family was not really 
sport of it because in our house

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we would have like fish four or 
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heap full of carbs. 
Carbs would be like 70 to 80% of

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the diet but still like meat, 
people needed the smell of meat 

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and fish to eat that carbs. 
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of India. 
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relocated from Saudi Arabia to 
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from one party it moved to 
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the current ruling party. 
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stayed, there was number 
availability of non vegetarian 

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food like animal food was not 
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even eggs were not allowed. 
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perfect place, I have all 
freedom and nobody's gonna stop 

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me from eating only vegetarian. 
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carbs fried in seed oils from 
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That was all that is there. 
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vegetarian. 
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Pita's page, Pita India's page 
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was doing the right thing. 
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Amazing, amazing. 
So you so you got into this at 

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the very, very early stages. 
Was it the improve your health 

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or was it to lose weight? 
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I think it was mainly weight 
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OK, so weight loss, so you tried
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So was it, was it, was it 
veganism you tried or did you 

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try a number of diets? 
Oh sorry, are you asking me 

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about carnivore or are you? 
No, no, no, no. 

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carnivore when you were 
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you. 
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weight and I was struggling with

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my acne. 
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So when you were before you did 
carnivore, like what diets were 

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you doing before you did 
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Was it the vegan diet? 
Was was it just the standard 

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diet? 
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What? 
What did it look like? 

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I think I've dabbled in quite a 
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I grew up on a standard Indian 
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it's very comparative. 
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little bit of eggs and a little 
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Then when I became then when I 
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of 17 I started eating a vegan 
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diet. 
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and there, but 90 percentage I 
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OK. 
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started getting worse and I 
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nutritional deficiencies, I went
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raw till 4:00. 
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veganism a little bit, alkaline 
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sprouts and just vegetables. 
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years to come to my senses that 
none of this is working and my 

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health was really in a bad 
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I was diagnosed with PCOS. 
I had anxiety, depression, 

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suicidal ideation. 
My food addiction was it just 

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became more secretive because I 
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older, this, some of these 
habits, like you tend to hide it

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because, you know, it's not a 
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But yeah, and I was eating a 
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diet, I was not eating any 
proteins. 

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A scoop of spirulina was my 
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sorry and what was the main 
reason sorry what was the main 

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reason why you felt like I can't
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What what was the main trigger 
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you felt like you weren't being 
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this? 
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something else so. 
I was diagnosed with PCOS in 

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2019. 
My periods were very irregular 

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and I had a lot of pain, 
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pass out when I used to get my 
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months, which is not normal. 
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is a medication that's used to 
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for just six months. 
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to 5.5. 
And then I tried all the vegan 

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supplements that were possible 
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up, including I even tried like 
prescription things like iron 

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infusion and iron tablets, 
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tracking was 10. 
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my brand was being like not 
brand like people around me knew

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eggs and broth and things like 
that and the just by adding one 

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egg, I could feel the difference
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Like I started feeling strong. 
I started feeling less hungry. 

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and broth, the hemoglobin, which
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gone about 10, became 11.5. 
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When I realized that just with 
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my hemoglobin to 11.5, then I 
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Doctor Shawn Baker's video and 

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then Michaela Peterson, Kelly 
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And I was like, OK, this might 
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that I could. 
I might as well start with a 

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carnivore diet or a meat based 
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So that's how it started. 
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Yeah. 

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So it's called as polycystic 
ovarian syndrome and now it's 

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20 tens when people would get 
diagnosed and one in 10 women of

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reproductive age group across 
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and the number is much higher in
India because of the carb heavy 

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diet that is followed here. 
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That is the underlying reason it
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reproductive system. 
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happening in the reproductive 
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related to the reproductive 
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So there could be things like 
irregular cycles, painful 

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periods, cysts in the ovary or 
lack of periods, weight gain, 

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facial hair growth due to the 
excess testosterone that's 

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localized in the face, hair 
loss, mood swings, terrible PMS 

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symptoms that can sometimes be 
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There are bunch of symptoms. 
This is just a small subset of 

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the symptoms I'm explaining, but
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The diagnostic method used to be
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since it's a whole metabolic 
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whole body and it's not just the
ovaries, A fasting insulin test 

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would be a better way to 
diagnose, along with irregular 

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periods would be a better way to
diagnose PCOS. 

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And how have you have you cured 
your PCOS at at the moment or is

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is it still ongoing? 
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I've cured it because I do get 
regular periods. 

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I do ovulate every month and I 
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mention a sign of PCOS is an 
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So if it do not ovulate, 
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and then the lining does not 
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So and I checked my fasting 
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from Destiny Price diet to 
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And why do you and why do you 
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Why do you feel things have 
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you've increased more fat since 
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I think I mentioned earlier 
about the ADHD part, it's like 

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there's so much traffic in your.
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explain ADHD is like there is 
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head. 
You're thinking of 10,000 things

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at once and I feel like that 
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Also PMOS. 
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dopamine. 
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carbohydrate or a ketogenic diet
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matter, the traffic has gone 
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And because ADHD, the traffic, 
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The cortisol level also usually 
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are like they have higher stress
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things going on in their head. 
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stress is a bigger big trigger 
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It could be physical stress due 
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be the emotional, mental stress,
all of it. 

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I, I completely agree with you. 
I think the biggest, the biggest

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factor for me when I became 
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changed my moods, how, how 
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It's just I feel way better. 
I, I think better, I react 

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differently. 
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understand that because people 
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I, I believe this diet can have 
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health because it did for me. 
It just, my brain fog is gone. 

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And like, like people like 
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even menopause, women in 
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a lot of brain fog. 
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removing all the plant toxins 
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and start giving the body what 
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Because at the end of the day, 
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Our brain is made of fats. 
So what are we feeding at the 

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moment? 
We're feeding the sugar. 

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So when we look at what we're 
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feeding that a lot of sugar and 
what impact what when we when we

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feed the gut a lot of sugar, 
what what happens, it usually 

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impacts the brain. 
So, you know, I mean, that's 

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where we should be all looking 
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I'll always say I'm not a 
doctor, but I'm not a mental 

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ADD, I'm not a mental health 
expert. 

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But I mean, we need to get back 
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What are we feed? 
What are we feeding ourselves on

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a daily basis? 
And when we look at your 

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condition, like I deal with an 
awful lot of fertility issues 

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because I like women. 
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And the one thing I always deal 
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first of all, they're not under 
eating, they're not on a low fat

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diet, They're not doing loads 
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I actually have them doing the 
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They're actually on a high fat 
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And when they hear that, they're
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you're going to put me on a high
fat diet. 

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And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to
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Because in their mind, like you 
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about losing weight. 
That's all they want to do. 

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But by doing that, they're 
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They're down regulating their 
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It's going to have an effect on 
their menstrual cycle. 

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It's going to have an effect on 
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Maybe their chances of giving 
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Like these are all going to be 
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Pretty much. 
They're going to be all going 

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downhill. 
So I'm trying to explain to 

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women that you're you need to 
put your health first and the 

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weight, the weight just comes 
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I think that's extremely 
important. 

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I also would like to add a point
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because physicians, even 
fertility doctors, a lot of the 

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doctors, they just tell you to 
lose weight. 

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And I was I think overweight by 
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lbs. 
But and they would not even tell

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you what to eat because they 
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I would hear balance that. 
I would tell them I'm eating 

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vegetarian, I'm eating this, I'm
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They're like, yeah, you're doing
well. 

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You're doing well. 
Just eat less. 

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And then my eating less was 800 
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Yeah. 
And it was like, let me see how 

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little I can eat. 
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this food noise all the time. 
And then it's like just sheer 

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willpower. 
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when I started watching Kelly 
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people's videos where they're 
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think Stephanie person, the keto
Stephanie keto person, she talks

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a lot about the fad. 
So a lot of people I was 

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following and I'm like, this is 
the total opposite of what 

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everyone has been telling me in 
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But then I'm a crazy person. 
So like, and I have nothing to 

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lose because I was also on 
because of my acne. 

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I was on accutane, I was on 
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spironolactone and I was on 
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And I still would. 
My acne was getting worse and my

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periods were getting irregular 
and the pain was so bad I was 

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like medical science cannot do 
anything about me so I might as 

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well eat fat and the. 
Thing about and The thing is 

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like like you said, when you go 
on these low calorie diets, your

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body is starving, starving. 
Like you're not giving your body

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the right nutrients. 
You're well undernourished. 

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And this is where we go wrong 
because most women will always 

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say, because when I always ask 
the question, why could you not 

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stick to a diet? 
All the women always say to me 

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is all the women say to me is 
that I couldn't stick to because

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I was always hungry. 
I was always miserable, 

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miserable on a diet. 
Whereas when you, when you, when

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you change that and you get rid 
of the food noise, the food 

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addiction and you really give 
your body what it needs, 

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essential macro nutrients, 
that's when your body starts to 

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change your hormones regulate 
the way they should regulate. 

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You know what I mean? 
Your metabolism starts to boom 

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again, You know what I mean? 
You're starting to build muscle.

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Everything your, your, your 
energy is better, your mood is 

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better, your sleep is better 
that your, your cycles are 

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better. 
I mean, the list goes on and on 

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and on. 
It's just, it's unbelievable. 

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And This is why I think it's 
extremely important that we just

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need to make sure that no matter
what you do, don't look at this 

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what we do like a carnivore, the
carnivore diet as a diet because

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I don't like the word diet. 
The minute the many people here 

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diet, that's when they're like, 
OK, well, this, this, this is 

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another fads. 
This is not going to work. 

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I'd prefer you just call the 
carnivore like a, a lifestyle 

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pretty much, you know what I 
mean? 

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I just don't like the word diet 
at all. 

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I think the minute you hear 
diet, psychologically people 

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think OK, he has me on another 
diet, I'm going to be on another

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low calorie diet and I think 
that's where people are going 

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wrong. 
They do the same thing every 

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year. 
They do the low calorie diets, 

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they do the low, the low fat 
diets, they go on high fibre and

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they get results. 
But they're not, they're not 

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happy, they're miserable and 
they're, and they're wrecking 

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themselves in the, in the, in 
the long run. 

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And then they're thinking that 
when they get older, in their 

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30s and 40s, when they, when 
they are dealing with issues 

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like like your issue or 
menopause, they're just, they 

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just think that this is just all
normal. 

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This is meant to happen as I get
older. 

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No nonsense. 
None of this is meant to happen 

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as you get older. 
Yeah, and hypothalamic amanoria 

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along with PCOS, that's like a 
nightmare thing for people to 

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happen. 
But a lot of people in the PCOS 

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community, they have 
hypothalamic anodia coexisting 

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as a coexisting condition 
because they're under eating so 

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much that the brain, the brain 
axis along with the ovia, the 

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hypothalamic pituitary axis and 
the ovarian axis that's just 

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shut. 
And then what you do? 

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What would you do when your 
weight doesn't move off? 

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You've undernourished yourself 
to a point where your body is 

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shut up. 
I mean shut and you're in a 

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you're constantly cold, you're 
in a fight or flight mode. 

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What would you do then? 
The answer is fats and reverse 

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dieting, of course, like eating.
Oh yeah, calorie. 

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Level. 100% Let's talk, let's 
touch on that actually, because 

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I think that's extremely 
important to reverse the, I 

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think this is extremely 
important for women because a 

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lot of like a lot of women, what
do they do? 

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They end up losing weight for a 
very, very long time and they 

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keep on losing weight. 
But then they don't know how to 

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gain the weight naturally. 
Because when you think about it,

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like if you're working with a 
client and they lose the weight 

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and they get in amazing shape, 
where did they go from there? 

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They haven't got a clue. 
They lose the weight and 

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they'll, and they go on holidays
and they pig out and they eat as

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much as much as they like. 
They, they think that the job is

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done. 
I've lost all this weight. 

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Now I can celebrate by eating 
whatever I like. 

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Now that's the worst thing you 
can do. 

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What you need to do now is you 
need to do the opposite of 

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dieting. 
Now. 

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We need to do a reverse diet. 
And I think the reverse diet is 

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a lot harder than the diet is 
because we're increasing the 

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food if you're increasing the 
food overtime. 

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Yeah. 
And that's and you're increasing

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it with like a little by little,
like you're not just going all 

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in overnight most of the cases. 
But there I think a lot of 

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people especially if they have 
like dieted for years or they 

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have dabbled across different 
diets, low calorie diets, the 

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tendency to binge would be 
higher. 

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So again, you have to like 
educate them about what you're 

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doing and what we are trying to 
achieve for a little bit of 

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weight gain, sustainable weight 
gain overtime. 

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That's the thing, like if you 
jump, if you go from a weight 

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loss phase and you go straight 
into like, I'll just eat 

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whatever I want, more than 
likely you're going to gain the 

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weight back really, really 
quickly. 

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Whereas if you do it slowly and 
let allow your body to adapt to 

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that food over time, increase 
the food slowly, what happens is

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your metabolism starts to Rev 
up. 

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Your body gets used to that 
amount of food. 

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And then what happens is you 
don't gain as much weight as you

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think. 
So the weight that you started 

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off with, let's say you were 160
lbs and that was obese to you. 

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And let's say we got you down to
like 120 and you look at you 

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look incredible. 
The goal is to get you back up 

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to that 160, but instead of 
looking, instead of looking like

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shit, you look incredible. 
You still look amazing. 

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That's the key, you know, I 
mean, so how do we do that? 

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We implement the reverse phase, 
but we make sure you're you're 

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doing the right training. 
So if you do the right training,

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you're getting stronger over 
time. 

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Then what happens is your body 
demands more fuel. 

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So if you so in that situation, 
what you do you give your body 

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more fuel or do you back off? 
Most people don't even give the 

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body more fuel because they're 
still in that diet phase. 

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That's the worst thing you can 
do. 

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And then see what happens when 
you're in that diet phase all 

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the time. 
You're you're not actually, 

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you're not actually losing, 
you're not actually losing body 

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fat. 
You're actually holding on the 

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body fat. 
You're actually holding on the 

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stubborn body fat, body fat. 
So when you mentioned about 

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PCOS, a lot of people that 
usually deal with PCOS have this

451
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,920
like midsection, they can't lose
the weight and they're like, OK,

452
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,160
well, I'm doing everything in 
the gym and Monday is low 

453
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,400
calorie diets, but I still have 
this big belly. 

454
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,440
Why can't they not lose this 
belly? 

455
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:51,000
But what people need to 
understand is that yes, this is 

456
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,400
a form of insulin resistance, 
but what's the root cause? 

457
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,680
The root cause is down to 
overconsumption of 

458
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,240
carbohydrates. 
It's not, it's not, it's not not

459
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,320
to do with calories, because if 
it was to do with calories, then

460
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,640
you would be able to lose 
weight. 

461
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,800
You'd be able to lose that belly
on 1100 calories. 

462
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,840
But those 1100 calories that 
you're eating, you need to tell 

463
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,640
me what what those 1100 calories
consist of. 

464
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,160
So I can guarantee you probably 
60% of those calories are coming

465
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,120
from carbohydrates, probably 
protein and then high fiber and 

466
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:28,840
then some processed food. 
So 90% of that food is shaped 

467
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,240
pretty much. 
So we need to change that. 

468
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,600
We need to give your body the 
right food, the food, sorry, the

469
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,320
right fuel, which is going to be
fats. 

470
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,520
Because we can we know we have 
two energy sources. 

471
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,920
We can run on fats or we can run
on carbohydrates. 

472
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,760
Now what's the difference? 
Carbohydrates, you get those 

473
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,000
sugars, they're going to run out
very, very quickly. 

474
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,440
That's why people have to eat. 
That's why people have to eat 

475
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,520
every two or three hours. 
Whereas when you eat fat, it 

476
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,720
keeps you a lot fuller a lot 
longer, keeps you well 

477
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200
sustained. 
Now when you look at when you 

478
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,240
look at the GLP one situation at
the moment, OK, they brought the

479
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,520
GLP one out because people 
struggle with their hunger. 

480
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,400
Now why do you think people 
struggle with their hunger is 

481
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,240
because they're consuming 
carbohydrates and every two 

482
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,040
hours they have to eat again. 
So there's no shot point here. 

483
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,880
Now imagine there's a diet out 
there that does the exact same 

484
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,760
thing as a Jeep GLP one. 
Imagine that would be amazing, 

485
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,920
wasn't it? 
Well, there is. 

486
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,560
It's called the carnivore diet 
because when you eat protein and

487
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,600
fats, it keeps insulin very, 
very low. 

488
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,360
It increases the ghrelin and 
leptin hormone. 

489
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,360
That's the that's the hormone 
that that tells you you're full.

490
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,800
That's the exact same thing what
a GL P1 does. 

491
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,560
So you talk a lot of a lot about
food addiction. 

492
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,320
I want you to talk to me about 
where you feel people are going 

493
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,640
wrong on their weight loss 
journey because at the at the 

494
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,960
moment we have a mass, a massive
obesity epidemic at the moment 

495
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,000
and nobody seems to have a clue 
how to fix that problem. 

496
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,720
So where do you feel we need to 
start on on on where people need

497
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:17,400
to get the help from? 
So I think with the obesity is a

498
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,560
big problem in India too. 
I think the major, I think it's 

499
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,960
from the food we eat. 
It's most diets. 

500
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Even the standard American diet 
or diet even in the western 

501
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,200
world or even in a country like 
India is very carb driven. 

502
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,680
And in India, I think the 
historical context needs to be 

503
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,280
taken into consideration. 
India was an agrarian society or

504
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,680
still but people only ate one or
two times a day. 

505
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,720
It was fast and like they would 
fast and then they would feast. 

506
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,360
But people right now are eating 
half every half an hour, every 

507
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:56,320
hour and they're eating ultra 
processed foods again plant 

508
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,720
foods only ultra processed 
cooked and seed oils. 

509
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,400
So there is inflammation coming 
from grains, which are which 

510
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,920
again, a lot of people are 
allergic to or they have 

511
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,000
insensitivities towards gluten 
and cereals and all, but they do

512
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,840
not know because they just keep 
eating and they don't have any 

513
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,760
major symptoms. 
But they're always inflamed to 

514
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,080
the seed oils. 
So I think these are the biggest

515
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,720
causes. 
And because every time the 

516
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,040
insulin gets spiked and if it 
remains high, your hunger will 

517
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,360
always remain high. 
It will not go down South. 

518
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,920
Explaining this to people is 
like almost explaining, I don't 

519
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,240
know, it's like explaining 
astrophysics to some like a 

520
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,320
toddler. 
It just goes over their head. 

521
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:41,120
And then people also, I think in
India, I think in the Western 

522
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,480
world, again, there is soda and 
there are fruit juices that 

523
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,760
people drink. 
In India, people believe that 

524
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,000
fruits are healthy and everyone 
tells like it's an advice by 

525
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,480
doctors to eat fruits. 
And people go on to drink fruit 

526
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,720
juice where they add extra sugar
into it. 

527
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,040
So it's carbohydrates are the 
reason. 

528
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,800
The excessive consumption of 
carbohydrates is the reason why 

529
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,560
the metabolism is broken and 
then there is no rest given to 

530
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,040
the body because people are 
eating from 6:00 AM in the 

531
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,120
morning till midnight and there 
are people who even eat after 

532
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:12,520
that and they're eating. 
An average person is eating at 

533
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,360
least six times a day and they 
are not. 

534
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:20,760
And one one point is the excess 
carbohydrate consumption in 

535
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,960
India. 
This might be even true for the 

536
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,800
in the western world also 
because people are plant based, 

537
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,800
majority of people are plant 
based, there is no protein 

538
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:37,080
consumption. 
So after a point they only have 

539
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,920
fat in their body. 
They don't even have the 

540
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,440
required muscle mass. 
And this becomes a bigger 

541
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,000
problem for women especially as 
they approach towards muscle 

542
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,200
loss. 
And there's like a visible 

543
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,960
sarcopenia happening year on 
year. 

544
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,240
Like you can see them like just 
free fraying every in front of 

545
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,960
your eyes. 
So there's low protein, there's 

546
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,640
high carbohydrates and there is 
seed oils that are used because 

547
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,480
traditionally in India people 
use ghee or butter, which are 

548
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,080
dairy based fats. 
But then these fats are 

549
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,560
demonized and instead seed oils 
like peanut oil or mustard seed 

550
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,000
oil or even canola oil or veg 
mixed, whatever that are. 

551
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,000
There's a new heart healthy oil 
released every day. 

552
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,800
So combination of all of this is
the reason why people are in 

553
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,520
such bad metabolic condition in 
this part of the world and then 

554
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,560
nobody exercises. 
That's what I was going to say 

555
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,680
to you. 
Yeah. 

556
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,880
Because you're sorry for 
interrupting. 

557
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,880
Yes, that that was, you made a 
very, very good point there. 

558
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,000
Nobody exercised. 
But you also made a very good 

559
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,240
point about people dealing with 
sarcopenia issues because you 

560
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,560
see this an awful lot. 
As people get older, they they 

561
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,320
differ away from the weight 
train and they differ away from 

562
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,320
protein and they eat more 
carbohydrates and they eat more 

563
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,000
fiber because that's where 
they've been pushed in. 

564
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,200
They've been pushed in that 
direction because a lot of 

565
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,480
people, if you look at on social
media at the moment, everybody's

566
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,760
saying that we're we're fiber 
deficient at the moment. 

567
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,320
We're not protein deficient. 
We're fiber deficient. 

568
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,360
Now, this is never going to make
sense to me because fiber is not

569
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,000
even a nutrients. 
We don't, we don't require it 

570
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,320
whatsoever, whereas protein is 
we need it, but we need it's 

571
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,520
extremely important people, 
really, really important. 

572
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,640
So it's amazing because this is 
where this is where we're going 

573
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,520
at the moment. 
I'm seeing this regularly now 

574
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,200
with older people. 
They can't even bend down. 

575
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,600
They can't even like, you know, 
I mean, they can't that walk and

576
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,040
when I mean you're, you're, 
you're seeing, yeah, they're 

577
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,560
getting hip replacements. 
And this is how. 

578
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,480
Replacement. 
It's like. 

579
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,360
Scary. 
Hip replacement and knee 

580
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,520
replacement. 
Yeah, 60. 

581
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,640
That's middle age. 
It's crazy and it's too young. 

582
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,440
It's way too young. 
Yeah, it really is. 

583
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,560
I mean, we've had people on this
podcast or I mean, the lady that

584
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,680
does the podcast with me, she's 
in her 70s. 

585
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,720
She looks incredible. 
She's still in the she's still 

586
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,880
in the, she's still in the gym 
killing it. 

587
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,400
There's a woman now in the 
world, Maggie Rancher. 

588
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,160
I don't know if you know her. 
She's on social media. 

589
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,960
She's she's 84 years of age. 
She looks incredible. 

590
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,200
Yeah, she looks as good as a 30 
year old or a 40 year old or 

591
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,280
even. 
Oh, she looks. 

592
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,320
She looks amazing. 
Look. 

593
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,960
At her biceps. 
How? 

594
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,280
Incredible. 
You look at look at look at 

595
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,760
Shawn Baker, 60 years of age. 
I mean, this is this is the this

596
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,160
is where we should be gone. 
He's incredible. 

597
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,760
You know, I mean, it's just, 
it's amazing how this is where 

598
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,720
we should be going. 
We should be looking at getting,

599
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,800
we should be looking at eggs now
and getting excited about 

600
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,960
getting older. 
Whereas before, before we all 

601
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,560
knew about carnivore, I think a 
lot of us would have been 

602
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,040
worried about getting older. 
I know I was, I was worried 

603
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,360
about getting getting older. 
But now, now I'm really looking 

604
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,240
forward to seeing what I can do 
in the next 20 years. 

605
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,080
Can't wait. 
You know, it's just, it's, it's 

606
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,160
important. 
I think it's important that that

607
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,920
you don't lose it if you build 
muscle when you were younger, 

608
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,680
don't lose as you get away. 
I think if anything, it's more 

609
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,640
important that you hold on to as
much as you can when you're 

610
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,920
older. 
It's the fountain of use in my 

611
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,920
opinion. 
Yeah, use it or you lose it. 

612
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,960
So when so was it an easy 
transition? 

613
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,520
Because I know, I know where 
you're from. 

614
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,960
Like I said, you're from India. 
So what, how did a family take 

615
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,200
this when you went from the 
vegan lifestyle, the 

616
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,280
carbohydrates and you eventually
said, you know what? 

617
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,400
This is where this is what I was
brought up on. 

618
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,320
Now I'm going to move to more 
animal based. 

619
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,040
This is what you guys are 
against. 

620
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,320
But I think this is the best 
thing from my health. 

621
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,600
How have the how have the public
dealt with this situation? 

622
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,480
How have the family dealt with 
this situation? 

623
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,640
It has not been easy, so I want 
so I started like eating. 

624
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,000
I first started experimenting 
with animal based diets because 

625
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,720
of Doctor Paul salad, you know, 
so it was meat and fruit sounded

626
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,960
good. 
I like meat, I like fruit, but 

627
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,720
still the carb addiction thing 
was playing and and I was still 

628
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,680
feeling hungry at that point. 
I found Miss Mahek Lokhandwala. 

629
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,760
So she I was looking for people 
who was doing a meat based keto 

630
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,240
diet in India because I wanted 
people who how are they doing it

631
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,800
in the Indian context? 
Because it's that's, that's such

632
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,520
a big stigma in this part of the
world against, I mean, for 

633
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,080
eating meat. 
So there are doctors who would 

634
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,880
say that eating meat will 
increase heat in your body. 

635
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,480
What does that even mean? 
It's pseudoscientific stuff. 

636
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,200
Basically. 
They say that you would get 

637
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,800
digestive issues if you eat eggs
and meat or, and a lot of the 

638
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,520
doctors, because they're not 
trained in nutrition, they'll 

639
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,280
say things that are sort of 
superstitious, if I may use that

640
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,360
word. 
They'd say things that it's not 

641
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,560
good for your body, it's not 
good for your mind, it's not 

642
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,440
good for your spiritual. 
So the indigenous Indian system 

643
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,880
of medicine which is called 
Ayurveda, they say that meat, 

644
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:55,040
eggs and even your curd for that
matter, it increases Thomas. 

645
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,800
Thomas means darkness. 
So it makes you a violent person

646
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,960
apparently. 
I know does not make sense. 

647
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,800
And that's so people do not want
to be violent. 

648
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,880
So that's why they go towards 
Southwick food or light food, 

649
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,120
the food that takes you towards 
spiritual realm. 

650
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,400
And in this country people 
believe that cereals and pulses 

651
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,840
are the food that would take you
towards spirituality. 

652
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,920
You can open the news about 
India and see how spiritual we 

653
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,280
are at the moment. 
It's not true. 

654
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,920
So OK, coming back to when I 
transitioned, I only told 2-3 

655
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,159
people in my life. 
So I told my husband he was not 

656
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:30,760
living with me. 
I mean we were in a long 

657
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,199
distance marriage at that point 
in time. 

658
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,480
I told him I'm doing this very 
weird thing. 

659
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,320
He was like, OK, hope it helps, 
hope it works out. 

660
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,000
But he told me particularly like
he will not abide by it. 

661
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,920
I was like, OK, it's just for 
me, I'm just doing it. 

662
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,679
I'm not going to advocate for it
or against it. 

663
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,880
Then I told my mother-in-law, it
just came out in conversation 

664
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,360
that I'm doing intermittent 
fasting. 

665
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,440
I'll eat 2 meals a day and it 
will be meat and eggs. 

666
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,679
She was shocked, but she didn't 
tell me anything. 

667
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,400
But then she told me how she was
scared. 

668
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,400
And so she told my husband that,
you know, I might get a heart 

669
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,920
attack. 
But I think these two people in 

670
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,360
my life have been very 
supportive. 

671
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,480
I later on told my own parents 
and I told some of my relatives.

672
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,480
They were very concerned because
I lost a little bit of weight 

673
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,960
and I was not trying to lose 
weight. 

674
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,560
I mean, that was not my 
intention at that point in time.

675
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,400
But because I was eating 2 meals
a day, I did lose some weight 

676
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,720
and I was like looking a little 
more muscular than I usually 

677
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,800
did. 
And people had a problem with 

678
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,120
that. 
And then they would be like, you

679
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,560
would get cancer, you would get 
colon cancer, you would get 

680
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,520
stomach cancer. 
They would say all sort of 

681
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,400
things. 
And it's like you are going 

682
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,000
against God and religion, a lot 
of things. 

683
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,280
And then there were people, when
I would talk about South, people

684
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,040
noticed the physical 
transformation and they would 

685
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,320
ask me what I was doing. 
But when I would exactly tell 

686
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,400
them that I eat 2 meals a day, I
eat meat, I eat eggs, and then I

687
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,040
add fat on top of it, which is 
animal fats, then they would not

688
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,440
ask me questions. 
They're like, oh, you're on some

689
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,040
weird fat things. 
So overall, the reception in my 

690
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,560
personal life has not been 
great, but I have to do what I 

691
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,960
have to do because the benefits 
have been that great for my 

692
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,840
mental health and even for my 
metabolic health. 

693
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,040
So I continue with it. 
And that's the reason I started 

694
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,360
the page because I was tired. 
Because once you start seeing 

695
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,560
the benefit of this way of 
eating, you try to become an 

696
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,280
evangelist and you try and tell 
people, right? 

697
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,000
Everyone's around me struggling 
with weight, everyone is 

698
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,760
struggling with infertility, 
everyone is struggling with 

699
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,400
building muscle. 
So tell them here, this is an 

700
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,520
easy way the spending, I think 
they're spending a lot of money 

701
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,520
on protein shakes and protein 
foods and protein bars. 

702
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,320
So tell them there's an easier 
way to get your protein because 

703
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,360
protein exists in nature, not in
the form of whey protein powder.

704
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,360
It exists in meat and eggs and 
maybe some forms of dairy. 

705
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,920
So why don't you eat that? 
Why don't you make that the base

706
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,200
of your diet? 
Then I so nobody in my personal 

707
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,840
life was listening to it. 
So I started a page and that's 

708
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,440
how I thought I'll connect. 
Connect with like minded people.

709
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,440
Amazing. 
And, and like you said, I, I, I 

710
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,520
respect everybody's religion, 
but at the end of the day, 

711
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,160
you're doing this for you. 
Your, your, your health is more 

712
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,520
important than, in my opinion, 
than any religion out there. 

713
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,720
You know, I mean, I'm, I'm 
pretty sure you, you respect 

714
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,760
your religion, but I'm pretty 
sure you respect your health a 

715
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,440
lot more together. 
Your health is more important. 

716
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Yeah, I, I think since you've 
brought up the topic about 

717
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,480
religion, uh, there is this myth
that India has always been a non

718
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,560
vegetarian, I mean, a vegetarian
country. 

719
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,680
That's not true. 
I, because I came from a 

720
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,720
background of doing yoga and I 
have learned astrology, the 

721
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,200
Indian system of astrology, So a
little bit into the spiritual 

722
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,120
realm. 
And I was also trying to ask 

723
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,040
myself this question, am I doing
the right thing? 

724
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,840
But if you look at the cycle of 
life for the food chain, nature 

725
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,280
is not inherently kind, right? 
There is, there is creation and 

726
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,240
there is destruction. 
We don't go and tell a lion to 

727
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,480
not eat a deer or to not eat a 
rabbit. 

728
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,360
We don't go. 
They eat what is appropriate for

729
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,920
this species. 
So even in our epics, even in 

730
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,040
our books, there is. 
So some of our gods have bow and

731
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,280
arrow. 
Why would they have bow and 

732
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:17,120
arrow if not for hunting? 
So Hinduism as a religion, I'm 

733
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,600
not like, I don't think. 
I think a lot of things have 

734
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,000
been misinterpreted. 
And it has like been like with 

735
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,760
all religions, things get edited
out, things get added back in, 

736
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,640
the esoteric part gets hidden, 
and then there's some things 

737
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,720
that are on purpose added in. 
And yeah, so I feel that. 

738
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,120
So there was one community that 
does not eat meat. 

739
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,600
Historically, they were the ones
would not eat meat because they 

740
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,520
were priests and they're 
supposed to be celibate. 

741
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,240
They were supposed to go through
the path of renunciation or 

742
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,880
yoga. 
So if a vegetarian or a 

743
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,600
Southwick diet is supposed to 
take them to the path of 

744
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,080
renunciation and celibacy and to
its spiritual, it is not a good 

745
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,000
diet for fertility and building 
families. 

746
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Right. 
OK, logically, if you're just 

747
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:10,400
gonna eat grains and lentils, 
then that's not a diet for your 

748
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,400
optimal human function. 
But all of these things. 

749
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,360
Are very controversial, so you 
can't say that. 

750
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,760
That's what I'm saying. 
You've got to be, you've got to 

751
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,680
be very, very careful around 
these things, don't you? 

752
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,880
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, if I say this out on the 

753
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,520
street, I could be beltered or 
like, don't that's. 

754
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,480
What I'm saying, that's what I'm
saying like it's very hard for 

755
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,840
you to say, well, this, this guy
is doing amazing things from me.

756
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,520
I think I, I think I should show
this from the rooftops, but it's

757
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,880
very hard to do it in your 
country. 

758
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,640
Yeah, so easy to get into 
trouble. 

759
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,280
Wow, that's, that's incredible, 
isn't it? 

760
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,560
Yeah, it's amazing because when 
I look at your situation and 

761
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,440
look at my situation, I know 
it's nowhere near anywhere near 

762
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,200
the same as yours. 
But like, I don't know if you 

763
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,800
watch my social media, but I say
an awful lot. 

764
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,640
I I go after an awful lot of 
people on social media and 

765
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,760
they're trying to shut me up and
tell me that I should, I 

766
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,120
shouldn't have an opinion on 
this. 

767
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,400
I don't know what I'm talking 
about. 

768
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,080
And I'm like, I couldn't care 
less. 

769
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,120
Couldn't care less because. 
At the end of the day, we're 

770
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,640
little. 
We've been listening to the 

771
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,120
we've been listening to these 
people for far too long now. 

772
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,560
People are not getting better. 
People are getting worse, a lot 

773
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,040
worse. 
And we need people that we need 

774
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,520
people in the world like you and
me to say, well, hang on a 

775
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,560
second. 
You're not meant to be, you're 

776
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,640
not meant to be suffering as you
get older. 

777
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,080
You're meant to be thriving. 
There could be something in this

778
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,000
and it could be something in a 
meat based diet. 

779
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,760
And unless you try it, you will 
never understand what we're 

780
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,120
talking about. 
Because that's what that's what 

781
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,040
frustrates me is that a lot of 
people don't try it. 

782
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,520
And when they do try it, they do
it wrong. 

783
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,120
They go high protein, they go 
high fat, they do, they do 

784
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,800
something wrong and yeah, low 
calories. 

785
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,080
And then they blame the diet. 
I mean, I speak, I'm speaking to

786
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,280
a guy now on Saturday. 
He's doing the carnivore diet at

787
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,640
the moment. 
And he's convinced that the diet

788
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,760
didn't work. 
And that's the reason why he's 

789
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,000
on peptides, he's on TRT. 
And I'm absolutely convinced 

790
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,320
when I talk to him on that 
podcast, I'll be able to find 

791
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,800
out exactly what that problem 
was. 

792
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,640
Because at the end of the day, 
how long have we been eating 

793
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,600
meat? 
We've been eating meat for 

794
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,520
centuries. 
We never had these problems 203 

795
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,520
hundred, 400 years ago. 
We have been eating meat for 

796
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:35,320
since the dawn of. 
Mankind. .5 million years we 

797
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,240
have been scavengers, we have 
been eating bone marrow. 

798
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,720
Like archaeological evidence 
can't lie, right? 

799
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,640
Maybe a holy books can say a 
different story based on who is 

800
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,960
editing it and was talking about
it. 

801
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,440
But archaeological evidence 
shows across the world there is 

802
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,320
animal fats in the pots and in 
the utensils used. 

803
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,080
So they did consume and they 
did. 

804
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:01,240
Later on, our societies became 
agrarian and there are still 

805
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:02,880
parts of the world where there 
are hunter gatherers. 

806
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,560
Look at their health. 
Look at the Hadza tribe. 

807
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,840
Look at areas where, yeah, 
they're doing fine. 

808
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,400
They don't have a dog. 
Food exactly. 

809
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,600
And that's, this is what we have
and you can't tell me this is 

810
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,320
not what we have evolved on. 
I mean, look at the Ice Age. 

811
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,160
What did they can, what did they
consume during the the Ice Age? 

812
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,800
You look at Canada in the winter
season, the winter season, all 

813
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,720
they had was snow, lots and lots
of snow. 

814
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,200
Where were where was the 
vegetables and the fruits on the

815
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,320
trees? 
Nowhere to be seen. 

816
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,800
So what do these people have to 
do? 

817
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:38,560
They had to hunt, hunt to eat. 
So I mean, I mean, it goes on 

818
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,080
and on and on. 
This is what this is what we've 

819
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,400
been designed to eat. 
Now, isn't it amazing that these

820
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,200
people had so much energy? 
They were strong, they were 

821
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,080
powerful. 
They were able to live their 

822
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,760
lives just on eating meat. 
So this is what I'm trying to 

823
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,720
say to people. 
If these people can live on me 

824
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:02,600
on its own, then there must be 
something in this because people

825
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,400
think I'm crazy that I'm just 
eating meat on my on its own. 

826
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,280
But what else do I need? 
I'm getting everything I need in

827
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,120
meats. 
Everything. 

828
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,480
Everything is it every single 
and every single every single 

829
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,600
vitamin and mineral and 
essential nutrients that my body

830
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,800
needs. 
I'm getting it all in fatty 

831
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,520
meat, every bit of it, you know,
I mean, I'm getting all and and 

832
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,720
then we look at the the what the
vegans lack. 

833
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:33,560
The vegans lack B complex B12 
and what what do we need B12 for

834
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,680
brain, you know, I mean, and you
look at what's going on the 

835
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,440
world at the moment. 
I'm not saying this is that I'm 

836
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,160
not saying this is this is the 
blame, but it's a laugh. 

837
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,560
A lot of hate in the world. 
Then we have gender issues. 

838
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,520
It's unbelievable, unbelievable.
And most of these put most of 

839
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,080
these people are not eating a 
meat based diet. 

840
00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:00,880
Yeah, it's, it's crazy. 
Because we have grown meat. 

841
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,000
Yeah. 
Are they on a loaf? 

842
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,240
Are they on a low fat diet? 
Low fat diet soy is pushed in 

843
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:13,200
this country like anything like 
soy based products because soy 

844
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,720
is grown for the livestock and 
people believe that if they eat 

845
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:20,320
the soy is used to fatten 
livestock, right? 

846
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,320
I mean the green fed ones. 
So if we humans eat soy at that 

847
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,440
level, what will happen to us? 
Common sense. 

848
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,760
We don't have to apply too much,
apply too much of ourselves. 

849
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,520
And still people eat soy in 
different shapes and forms. 

850
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,120
This plant based protein that is
like that's 10 times more 

851
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,720
expensive than meat for the 
nutrition you get in my opinion.

852
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,160
And people still buy that. 
Crazy, It's crazy. 

853
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,680
Doesn't make any sense. 
And every time. 

854
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,320
Yeah, Every time the protein 
conversation I like, I talk to 

855
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,320
people and tell them like, if 
not anything, just eat protein. 

856
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,200
I mean, just eat some good 
quality protein. 

857
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,240
The first conversation he asked 
me is about soil and different 

858
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:02,040
forms of processed soil, tofu, 
Tempe. 

859
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,480
Then there's something called 
soya chunk, which is basically 

860
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,440
soil flour, the beef. 
So once soybean oil is taken out

861
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,520
that there's a little bit of the
residue that's there, which is 

862
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,040
again ultra processed to make it
look like meat chunks. 

863
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,960
So people eat that and then they
cook that in seed oils and they 

864
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,600
wonder why their health issues 
are not going away despite 

865
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,160
eating protein. 
And then they say protein is a 

866
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,240
fad and protein does not work 
because they all they eating is 

867
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:29,440
mainly soil and other lentils. 
Exactly. 

868
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,440
Now I haven't even spoken about 
the oxalates and lectins and 

869
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,080
others. 
Exactly. 

870
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,320
And and see you're a you're a 
female. 

871
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,840
You know, you will know this 
part and you will know this 

872
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,560
because because you're you're 
you're you're a carnivore. 

873
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,560
But what is what is sex hormones
needs like progesterone, 

874
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,200
estrogen, testosterone? 
What's the one macro they 

875
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,800
thought in it? 
Cholesterol because the root is 

876
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,520
the esterol. 
Hormones. 

877
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,120
And where do we get the and 
where do we get the? 

878
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,680
Where do we get where do we get 
the cholesterol from? 

879
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,040
Animal source. 
Meat, egg, the fat animals. 

880
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Sort of. 
So the fat, the fat that's on 

881
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,680
the animal, the meat, we get it,
we get it. 

882
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,320
That's what nature gave us. 
Nature gave us the best 

883
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,760
solution. 
When we eat the meat, the fat on

884
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,280
the meat is what's important as 
well. 

885
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,040
So both of them, fat and 
protein, this is what nature 

886
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,000
gave us for a very, very long 
time. 

887
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,960
Why is it now in 2026, we're 
moving away from that? 

888
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,320
We're giving people more lean 
sources of protein. 

889
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,480
We're moving people away from 
protein. 

890
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,080
We're putting people on these 
plant based burgers. 

891
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,680
That's not even more. 
It's not even bioavailable and 

892
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,200
doesn't even come close to a 
beef burger, doesn't even come 

893
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,400
close. 
When you look at when you look 

894
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,760
at a protein has all 20 
essential amino acids. 

895
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,760
Vegan food doesn't have that. 
You'd have to eat. 

896
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,360
You'd have to eat a lot of vegan
food to get those amino acids 

897
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,400
in. 
A lot. 

898
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,680
Yeah. 
So why, why are we consuming? 

899
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,720
Why are we consuming A macro 
that's not essential to the body

900
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,920
at all? 
Carbohydrates, we make our own. 

901
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,800
We make our own carbohydrates. 
We're we're told that we need to

902
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,120
eat a lot of fiber. 
It's not even a nutrients. 

903
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,080
But these are two, these are two
food groups that we're told to 

904
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,880
eat a lot of at the moment. 
Now you look at our food 

905
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,680
pyramids. 
Our food pyramids was changed 

906
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,840
around 4 months ago. 
Yeah, yeah. 

907
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,800
OK, I. 
What's what's at the? 

908
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,120
What's at the top now? 
Meat, meat and eggs and and. 

909
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,600
What and what's at the bottom 
and what's at the bottom plants.

910
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,440
Plants like cereals and. 
Greens and and all that carb, 

911
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,400
all that carbohydrates. 
So you would you would think 

912
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,680
when this pyramid got flipped 
upside down, everybody would 

913
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,840
have sent maybe we were wrong 
here, maybe we were wrong 

914
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,120
pregnant. 
But ever since that food pyramid

915
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,480
came out, everybody lost their 
shit. 

916
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,600
They were like, oh, hang on a 
second, hang on a second. 

917
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,120
We're still right here. 
Carbohydrates are still your 

918
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,720
main and main energy source. 
You could not make it up. 

919
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,040
The carbohydrates are on the 
bottom now. 

920
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,480
Meat is at the top. 
And you are saying you are still

921
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,080
convincing me that carbohydrates
are our main source of energy? 

922
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,160
I think the main. 
Crazy. 

923
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:23,040
The lack of vitamin B12 and 
essential nutrients like 

924
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,120
choline. 
Like I think that's what is 

925
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,240
causing them to still believe 
that carbohydrates are 

926
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,440
essential. 
If it's at the bottom then why 

927
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,360
would you? 
I mean, if it's at the top and 

928
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,120
if it's to eat sparingly, then 
why eat it even at all? 

929
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,160
Exactly. 
And The thing is, I've been kind

930
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,840
of bored now for nearly nine 
years. 

931
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,960
In that nine years, I've eaten a
lot of saturated fat. 

932
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,040
A lot. 
I'm still waiting for this. 

933
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,600
I'm still waiting for this heart
attack to happen. 

934
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,320
You're going to make it till 90 
or 100 easily. 

935
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,920
Easily. 
So it's just this is amazing, 

936
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,640
isn't it? 
So what are you currently eating

937
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,720
at the moment? 
Now at the moment. 

938
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,640
And where do you get your food? 
Do you actually get your food in

939
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,520
and you already have to ship it 
over from different countries? 

940
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,800
No. 
No, no, I get it in India. 

941
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,160
So, OK, I don't get a lot of 
bacon, so I don't eat bacon. 

942
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:08,360
I get beef. 
Talking about meat availability 

943
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,560
in India is a little funny topic
because I have to be very 

944
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,200
careful. 
We don't get beef. 

945
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,440
So the beef I say is Buffalo 
meat. 

946
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,800
OK. 
Yeah. 

947
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,520
So it's called Kara beef in like
a local parliament, local town. 

948
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,240
So we don't get cow, cow killing
of cow in an eating of cow in 

949
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:29,520
India's banned. 
But India is one of the largest 

950
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,920
exporters of cow meat. 
Make that make sense? 

951
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,800
Yeah. 
So if I would go to Thailand or 

952
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,600
if I go to Malaysia, I'd get 
Indian beef there, but I can't 

953
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,280
get it in this kind like cow 
meat there. 

954
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,360
I won't get it in this country. 
I would get water Buffalo and 

955
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,680
even that also sometimes local 
states. 

956
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,440
So in the state I live in, it's 
not the slaughtering of the 

957
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,200
water Buffalo is not allowed, 
but you can send the meat here. 

958
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,600
So it get the animal gets 
slaughtered either another state

959
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,160
or there's some like grey way to
do it. 

960
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,720
So sometimes there would be like
this shortages. 

961
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,280
I mean, I just had to mention it
that it's not the easiest thing 

962
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,360
to do in the country, but it's 
totally worth the health. 

963
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,320
So I do Buffalo meat. 
I do all cuts nose to tail is 

964
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,160
how I eat. 
So an average day would look 

965
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,800
like ground beef because it's 
affordable, very affordable. 

966
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,080
Sometimes steak I add butter on 
top of all of this, like there 

967
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,280
would be extra fat on my plate 
because I'm, I lean. 

968
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,600
That's why I call myself keto 
war because I the ketosis is the

969
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,440
more important part for me as 
well as eating animal protein. 

970
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,240
So there'll be extra fats. 
I'll cook it in ghee sometimes, 

971
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:35,480
sometimes in butter. 
Sometimes I'll add chunks of 

972
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,720
tallow so and there'll be eggs. 
Sometimes there's a combination 

973
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:42,520
of this. 
So I do eat organ meats like 

974
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:49,200
heart, tongue, oxtail, bone 
marrow, liver. 

975
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,040
I do eat nose to tail that way 
and I try to make sure that I 

976
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,920
get a whole range of nutrients. 
I drink broth almost every day 

977
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,120
and I eat 2 times a day. 
And this was. 

978
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,720
Fantastic. 
And what's the what's the price 

979
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:03,640
range? 
What is, is, is expensive in 

980
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,880
your country or is it cheap? 
No. 

981
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:13,840
So if goat meat is so there is a
religious taboo against eating 

982
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,560
room in it. 
I mean, what do you call it? 

983
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,520
The animals from the bovine 
family? 

984
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,040
If I mean, I don't even know 
families right on. 

985
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:27,040
So if that cow or water Buffalo 
or ox, it's kind of taboo to eat

986
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,440
it. 
So it's and but it's more 

987
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,360
affordable. 
Goat meat or sheep meat is 

988
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,440
considered better like by a lot 
of people because it's approved 

989
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,800
by religious standards. 
So it's like it's almost double 

990
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,880
the price. 
So but goats are for sure you 

991
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,680
can be 100% sure that they are 
grass fed because they are like 

992
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,360
a little they do not eat green 
fed thing green that easily by 

993
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,120
their nature and they are very 
picky about what they eat goats.

994
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,440
So you can be certain that that 
would be grass fed. 

995
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:03,480
But mine but the beef Kara beef 
for the water Buffalo that I eat

996
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,600
I think sometimes I get is grass
fed because the fat is more 

997
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,640
yellowish in colour and 
sometimes it's green because 

998
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,840
it's more whitish. 
For me it cost me last month, I 

999
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,280
think I put a post it costed me 
₹7000 Indian rupees, which is 

1000
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,360
equivalent to $70.00 for my 
meat, my eggs and my butter. 

1001
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,800
So I was doing basically a sweet
butter for. 

1002
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,680
A week. 
For a whole month. 

1003
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,520
Wow, for a full month. 
Wow. 

1004
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,080
So what? 
So talk me. 

1005
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,560
So talk me through that then 
Hell, so talk me through that. 

1006
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,880
How much? 
How much are you getting in 

1007
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,920
that, in that, in that? 
Because I presume that's a lot 

1008
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,640
of food. 
So how much are you eating? 

1009
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,400
Like grams wires or pounds wires
of meat a day. 

1010
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,600
Yeah, sure. 
So I eat close to 250g or 300 

1011
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,880
grams of ground beef or if it's 
steak, it's that's the 

1012
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,320
equivalent amount. 
I do not know how to convert it 

1013
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,240
into pounds or ounces. 
So I think it's half, half a 

1014
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,560
pound, approximately half a 
pound of ground beef. 

1015
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,720
I cook it in fat. 
I add more fat on top of it. 

1016
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:08,840
I would say approximately 40 to 
50 grams of butter on the side, 

1017
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,760
30 to 50. 
Now eggs, I eat three to six 

1018
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,480
eggs. 
I'm usually like a good 6070 

1019
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,280
percentage full with this meal 
itself. 

1020
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,400
I'm not that big a person. 
I'm like 51156 centimeters and 

1021
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,120
I'm 55 percentage tall. 
So I'm not that big. 

1022
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,240
So that's that helps me. 
And then I eat three to six 

1023
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:29,320
eggs, sometimes eat eggs 
depending on where I'm in the 

1024
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,240
cycle. 
And I add like again, 40 to 50 

1025
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:35,040
grams of butter into it. 
Wow. 

1026
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,080
And that's, that's incredible. 
That's really because like, 

1027
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,800
actually. 
Cheaper than, you know, buying 

1028
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,800
protein powders. 
It really is because everywhere 

1029
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,560
in the world now is ex. 
I don't know if you know, the 

1030
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,680
meat prices are gone straight to
the roof at the moment. 

1031
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,960
It's no like I'm talking about 
meat. 

1032
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,960
Meat in general is getting 
really damn expensive now in 

1033
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,680
Europe and in America, I mean in
Canada as well. 

1034
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,120
It's just, it's off the charts 
what's going on in Canada and 

1035
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,120
they're making meat more now 
expensive and they're making 

1036
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,720
processed food more cheaper. 
And but when we hear like when I

1037
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:13,840
hear what's going on in your 
country, it's remarkable. 

1038
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:17,040
That's the way it should be. 
We should be going down that 

1039
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,640
that route because if we're 
going to give anybody, if we're 

1040
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,760
going to give people a chance, 
we need to make sure they've 

1041
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,280
been fed properly and they're 
not being fed properly. 

1042
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,280
Then there's a problem there. 
Yeah, but I think in India 

1043
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,680
there's a little bit of 
difference the way food is 

1044
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,800
viewed. 
So I think from my 

1045
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,320
understanding, people in the 
West, they spend more of their 

1046
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,920
food dollars that they believe 
in getting. 

1047
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,280
Like especially at least the 
health conscious people, they 

1048
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,640
believe in spending like a good 
amount of the income, like $100 

1049
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,120
or $150.00 per week to get their
weekly groceries right. 

1050
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,080
In India, people, even though 
they'd be earning a lot of 

1051
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,520
money, they would be like in the
top one percentage of society. 

1052
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,600
They'd still when it comes to 
food, they would still rely on 

1053
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,280
rice and lentils for majority of
their food. 

1054
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,520
And seed oils they might buy, 
they might buy organic rice, but

1055
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,120
they'll still not eat actual 
protein. 

1056
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,640
And when it comes to protein, 
they'll buy protein powders 

1057
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,120
because of the religious 
restriction. 

1058
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,280
So in a way, the religious 
restriction is working for me 

1059
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,080
because I get affordable meat. 
That's crazy, isn't it? 

1060
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:20,880
Yeah, it is it is it. 
Really, really is. 

1061
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,920
So if anybody is watching this 
and they've never heard this 

1062
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,160
kind of our lifestyle, what 
message would you give to them? 

1063
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,520
I think if you start struggling 
with mental health, anxiety, 

1064
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,640
depression, bipolar, and if 
you're on medications and you're

1065
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:40,720
looking to vein off or like 
reduce your dosage, please give 

1066
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,240
the carnival lifestyle a try. 
If you're dealing with metabolic

1067
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:50,360
syndrome, be it obesity, PCOS, 
you should try. 

1068
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,960
And if nothing has worked for 
you, please do try a carnival 

1069
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,040
lifestyle. 
It's not a diet. 

1070
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,440
It's a way of life. 
And it's not a quick fix, but it

1071
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,960
will definitely bring you the 
healing you never thought you 

1072
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,320
needed. 
Because a lot of us are living 

1073
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,720
with issues that we do not know 
we have because we have gone 

1074
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:07,920
into it. 
Yeah. 

1075
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,960
But once you get the you 
experience true health, then 

1076
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,440
you'll understand what you're 
suffering from. 

1077
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,960
So I hope people who are 
suffering from mental illnesses 

1078
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:22,040
and people who are suffering 
from metabolic conditions know 

1079
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,440
that there is a way out and that
you just have to change what's 

1080
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,800
there on your plate. 
And this is not a death sentence

1081
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,800
and you're not sentenced for 
this, for life. 

1082
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,040
That's all I have to say about 
this way of eating. 

1083
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,080
And this bit of your life, and 
like you said, all these 

1084
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,480
metabolic conditions, they're 
out of our control, but you can 

1085
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,840
manage them a lot better. 
Yeah. 

1086
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,880
Yeah, a lot, lot better. 
So you, this is what we've been 

1087
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,320
saying all the way during the 
podcast, that you're not meant 

1088
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,520
to suffer if you are like a type
2 diabetic or you know what I 

1089
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:56,640
mean, you, you, you've, you've 
gotten another problem as you 

1090
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,200
get older, you need to look at 
it and say, well, is this meant 

1091
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,320
to happen? 
It would have blew for no 

1092
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,520
particular reason or is it down 
to something else? 

1093
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,640
So what I'm saying, what I'm 
saying is before you make that 

1094
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,920
decision to rush to the doctor, 
what you should do is look at my

1095
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,960
consuming the right food every 
single day because that's the 

1096
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,640
one thing we have full control 
of. 

1097
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,560
What are we putting into our 
bodies every single day? 

1098
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,560
And unless you address that 
situation, then you will never 

1099
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,880
know whether you can actually 
put these problems into 

1100
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,360
remission or best case, you can 
actually cure them. 

1101
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,360
Because we've done over 450 
episodes now on this podcast and

1102
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,160
the stories that we've heard is 
remarkable, absolutely 

1103
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,240
remarkable. 
Yours is going to be another 

1104
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,200
one. 
And the thing about it is people

1105
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,800
are going to hear this. 
People are going to hear this 

1106
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,440
podcast and they're not going to
believe you. 

1107
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,960
They're going to build, they're 
going to say that your story is 

1108
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,400
not real. 
You're paid to come on this 

1109
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,320
podcast. 
All this nonsense. 

1110
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,160
It's just it's remarkable. 
So this so I'm going to leave 

1111
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,320
the final, I'm going to leave 
the final say to you, were you 

1112
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,480
paid to be on this podcast? 
No I wouldn't. 

1113
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,440
I would do this even if I was 
not paid because I'd really want

1114
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,800
to spread this message of a low 
carbohydrate lifestyle, 

1115
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,120
ketogenic lifestyle and a 
carnival lifestyle. 

1116
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,680
I know so many women in my life 
who are struggling, they come 

1117
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,560
and talk to me because they are 
desperate for a solution. 

1118
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,680
In my part of the world there is
an infertility clinic every 500 

1119
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:34,800
meters where I stay there is an 
that. 

1120
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,400
I saw an advertisement today for
an IUI. 

1121
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,120
Endless I endless number of IUI 
and IVF. 

1122
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,120
You just have to pay yearly. 
That's the place where the 

1123
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,560
infertility industry is going 
and people on, I think 2 days 

1124
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,920
ago, a friend of a former 
coworker of mine, she told me 

1125
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:58,960
that a hemoglobin was 6 and she 
has fibroids and she her source 

1126
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,760
of protein is soy because she's 
allergic to milk and eggs. 

1127
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,960
So this is the place where women
in my country are and they 

1128
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,040
believe that they are achieving 
spiritual liberation by eating 

1129
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,600
more plants, but they're not. 
They're suffering. 

1130
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,160
They're dealing with all sorts 
of men. 

1131
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,280
Invisible mental illnesses are 
invisible, invisible mental 

1132
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,800
illnesses invisible, social 
stigma invisible. 

1133
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,520
And they're spending so much 
money on fertility treatments 

1134
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,640
and they are just getting 
exploited. 

1135
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,760
And so that's the thing I have 
to say that I would have, I 

1136
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,320
would do this for free. 
I would, I just want to spread 

1137
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,800
this message that there is a way
out and not everyone has to do 

1138
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,440
IVF to have babies. 
You can just reduce the 

1139
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,320
inflammation through a diet, 
through diet and lifestyle. 

1140
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,920
And it's not a diet, it's a 
lifestyle. 

1141
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,800
Well said, well said. 
And where can we go to find you?

1142
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,960
You can find me on Instagram 
currently at that keto wore gal.

1143
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,160
Yeah, that dot keto wore dot gal
GAL. 

1144
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,960
Amazing, amazing. 
We'll, we'll put those links 

1145
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,800
below and then what I'll do is 
when this podcast or when this 

1146
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,720
is done, this recording and 
we'll, we'll send you on a few 

1147
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,640
reels and we'll send you on the 
full recording probably in the 

1148
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,800
next 24 or 40 hours sounds. 
Good. 

1149
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,200
All right, so thanks very much 
for coming on. 

1150
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,280
I wish you, I wish you all the 
best on your your journey and 

1151
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,840
we'll probably reach out to you 
again and probably another few 

1152
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,840
months time. 
Sure, thank you so much. 

1153
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,120
It's my first time like ever on 
I've taken. 

1154
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,560
So I used to work in marketing, 
but I was a very shy person and 

1155
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,240
I used to struggle a lot with my
mental health. 

1156
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,480
So I was used to never even put 
my camera on while I would be 

1157
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,400
interviewing my clients for 
testimonials or case studies, 

1158
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,680
etcetera. 
So I am like, it's this is 

1159
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,520
really a landmark moment for me 
that I'm speaking for an hour 

1160
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,400
and I'm not jittery or I'm not 
shivering. 

1161
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,840
I think it's the power of the 
diet and the power of dietary 

1162
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,120
fats, and it's yeah, I just 
can't believe I just did this. 

1163
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,680
Well, honestly, you're amazing. 
Honestly, you're amazed because 

1164
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,920
your story is very, very similar
to my and I stuck. 

1165
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,280
I was, I was diagnosed with 
dyslexia when I was very, very 

1166
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,840
young. 
And if you, if you had a said to

1167
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,200
me like 11 years ago, 12 years 
ago, I will be doing something 

1168
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,080
like this, speaking so 
confidently and what I'm doing 

1169
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,400
on social media, I would have 
said to you, no chance. 

1170
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,000
Because I struggled with my, I 
struggled with my words. 

1171
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,960
I struggled with my speech and I
could, I couldn't talk properly.

1172
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,480
I used to always, I used to 
always struggle to get my words 

1173
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,960
out. 
Whereas now I'm able to speak 

1174
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,360
very, very well. 
And I believe it's down to what 

1175
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,800
I'm putting into my body. 
And because I've been doing this

1176
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,360
now for nine years and my body's
fully healed. 

1177
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,240
Well, I wouldn't say it's fully 
healed. 

1178
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,720
I still, I still, I still think 
there's more healing to be done,

1179
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,960
but I've never once went back to
carbohydrates once in that time.

1180
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,920
I've still been fat adopted for 
nine years. 

1181
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,760
And I think in that nine years, 
it's done tremendous things from

1182
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,680
my health, including my 
dyslexia, how I react, how I 

1183
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,840
think because I'm so confident 
now doing these podcasts and I'm

1184
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,960
so confident in my own ability 
going up against these nasty 

1185
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:11,400
people on social media and being
not not being bullied into that 

1186
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,480
situation because I don't, I 
don't want to be, I don't want 

1187
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,280
to be known as a bully. 
What I want to be known as is 

1188
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,840
someone that didn't take any 
shit off these people. 

1189
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,080
And just basically they have, 
they have an opinion. 

1190
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,040
I have an opinion. 
And I think it's, I think it's, 

1191
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:32,240
I think it's unfair that when 
people say your opinion doesn't 

1192
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,000
count, my opinion counts. 
I don't think that's right. 

1193
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,080
I mean, we live in a world. 
Now. 

1194
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,160
Exactly that. 
We live in a world where, OK, 

1195
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,280
you have your opinion, I should 
be entitled to my opinion where 

1196
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,800
you shut me down. 
And if you don't want to listen 

1197
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,720
to me, that's fine. 
But I'm listening to your 

1198
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,040
opinion. 
I took on board what you have to

1199
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,000
say. 
You should have the decency now 

1200
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,480
to listen to what I'm going to 
say. 

1201
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,480
Because at the end of the day, 
what do we all want? 

1202
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,760
We all want to see people get 
healthy. 

1203
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,360
I don't like, I don't like going
up against these people on 

1204
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,840
social media and, and, and 
stirring the pot and calling 

1205
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,120
these people out. 
But at the end of the day, if 

1206
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,320
you're going to tell me that I'm
giving out misinformation or I'm

1207
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,440
a liar or the carnivore doesn't 
work, I'm sorry you're talking 

1208
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,160
nonsense because we've heard, 
we've heard your story. 

1209
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,000
I've heard over 450 other 
stories. 

1210
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,240
My story is the same. 
I don't think people understand 

1211
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,960
what this current, what this 
this lifestyle is done for 

1212
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,760
people. 
Also, I think for the pharm, I, 

1213
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,720
I did my bachelor's in pharmacy 
by the way, and I have briefly 

1214
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,680
worked in the Pharmaceutical 
industry and the Pharmaceutical 

1215
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,880
industry, the nutraceutical 
industry, they all have a 

1216
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,800
conflict of interest when it 
comes to this. 

1217
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,400
If people are getting healed 
with diets, what is the role of 

1218
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,680
the Pharmaceutical industry 
then? 

1219
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,880
Exactly what is the role of the 
nutraceutical industry then, 

1220
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,560
which is very unregulated? 
I mean, pharmaceutical is 

1221
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,440
regulated, but what good is it 
anyway? 

1222
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,560
What is the role of all the GLP 
one promoters then? 

1223
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,960
If people can just eat and be 
healthy? 

1224
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,320
What is the role of the 
psychiatric medicine then, when 

1225
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,760
people are not mentally unwell? 
It's there's. 

1226
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,120
No money. 
There's no money. 

1227
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,280
There's no money in people that 
are cured. 

1228
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,200
Yeah, that's what comes down 
profit of a healthy, healthy 

1229
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,240
people. 
That's what happened. 

1230
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,560
That's the thing. 
It's just it's a big market and 

1231
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,800
it's a big, sorry, it's a big 
business. 

1232
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,280
It's a big, massive business. 
They know what they're doing. 

1233
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,200
They're feeding you the problem.
And then when you do become 

1234
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,720
very, very sick, they're going 
to make sure they have the 

1235
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,320
solution for breath. 
They don't even have a solution.

1236
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,560
They have a solution to keep you
sick in the system, but not sick

1237
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,680
enough that you die. 
So you're just sick. 

1238
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:49,920
And you they just make you sick 
enough that you can work, but 

1239
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,800
not too sick enough that you see
the problems in the system and 

1240
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,400
fight against the system. 
I mean, it's bigger than just 

1241
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,560
what we eat. 
It's it's a bigger problem if 

1242
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,720
you look at the state of the 
world today. 

1243
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:01,160
Yeah, Well said. 
Well said. 

1244
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,960
Well, bras, as I said, I've been
very, very impressed with this 

1245
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,800
podcast. 
Thanks very much for coming on 

1246
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,360
and I wish you all the best, 
what you do, what you do next, 

1247
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,560
and we'll definitely stay in 
touch. 

1248
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,640
Yeah, Thank you so much. 
Thank you for the. 

1249
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,080
Opportunity If you get value 
from this podcast, please hit 

1250
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:23,840
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1251
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,520
It really helps spread the word 
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1252
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:33,920
Want support on the diet? 
e-mail ennismark93@gmail.com for

1253
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,640
a free consultation. 
New clients are welcome. 

1254
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:47,210
Now in loving memory of sweet 
companion and family member 

1255
01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:50,560
Rocky. 
For 16 years you filled our 

1256
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,600
lives with unconditional love, 
loyalty and joy. 

1257
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,800
You leave behind a quiet that 
only you could have filled. 

1258
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,840
Every walk, every welcome home, 
every gentle presence by our 

1259
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,640
side meant more than words could
say. 

1260
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,440
You will be deeply missed, dear 
friend. 

1261
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,720
Rest peacefully knowing you were
loved every single day.