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there doesn't seem to be 
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give us a clue into her having 
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Sorry. 
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obese, but you don't have to 
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What, what's what's the 
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You don't have to be obese. 
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look skinny and be very sick 
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providing the right the right 
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versus the insides, which we 
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this to a few days ago about 
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someone, we automatically, I 
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I looked incredible. 
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I was inflamed. 
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way and I hadn't got a clue. 
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inflammation was. 
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know what visceral fat was. 
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heart disease, It's going to 
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inflammation, seed oils, these 
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It was always fat. 
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Welcome to another episode of 
the Carnivore Evolution podcast.

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And today we welcome back Joe 
Joe was on this podcast around 9

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or 10 months ago. 
Joe, welcome back. 

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Thank you, Mark for having me 
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your shoe Vic. 
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Welcome back, dear. 
It's great to have you back, 

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Joel. 
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you back on is because there's a
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me a few days ago. 
We we had a young woman who had 

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a heart attack. 
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very, very shortly. 
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worrying. 
I've always said that this is 

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getting ridiculous now at this 
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So what we'll do is we'll put 
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little bit about it after it. 
So Victoria, if you just put her

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up there for me for let's just 
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This morning I woke up with what
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quickly went to a hospital that 
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Airbnb. 
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showing signs of possible heart 
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transported to another hospital 
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I had a sorry, my brain's 
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through my wrist all the way 
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inflammation in my heart. 
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I have some chest pain right 
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I'm on a lot of morphine, but it
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I'm hoping that they figure out 
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age should be in a hospital 
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So when you saw this video, what
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Let's start with you, Joe. 
Well seen this video and on the 

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narrate the that's the hook on 
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she got a heart attack. 
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mind was why on earth do how did
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behind COVID in itself? 
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the day, he felt like he was a 
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pharmaceutical companies. 
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to, I'm not trying to dispute 
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like a con to milk people. 
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that that he had on people. 
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some people haven't even 
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you know, and for her to be 
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probably an inflammation around 
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what caused the heart attack. 
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actually injecting us with? 
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How are we so sure of what we 
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was saying all the kids they 
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vaccination because most of the 
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from ADHD to whatever problem 
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vaccination. 
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eating right and doing the right
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need no vaccination in the 1st 
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to fight this autoimmune or 
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healthy, healthy living and 
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vaccination? 
Maybe you give back to your 

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child that is mandated to take 
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What exactly it's inside and why
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It should be voluntarily to say 
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want to do that. 
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vaccination, then the arteries 
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through, she's going through 
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heart attack, it means there's 
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And how much more of people out 
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100%. 
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shouldn't be mandatory. 
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That's what I think. 
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During COVID, it was mandated 
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vaccine. 
Why should you make it 

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mandatory? 
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this problem in the 1st place to
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evolve? 
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to stay at home, lock down, you 
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saying there is COVID. 
How did it come about in the 1st

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place? 
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start asking and what is the 
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Because at the end of the day, 
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these things were pharmaceutical
company and that result to every

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other issues out there in terms 
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Who profits from this problem? 
You create a problem and you 

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create a solution just to make 
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it. 
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is temporary. 
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All these vaccines will always 
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you even create something that 
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Exactly, exactly, Victoria, What
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Well, I'm on team diet. 
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weight on the vaccine. 
There's so much more impact from

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what we're eating and not 
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I'm, I'm going to make an 
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assumption that she did have the
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background is or what if she's 
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what, or drinking or smoking. 
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that she eats a standard Western
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carbohydrate and probably high 
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all kinds of chemicals and in 
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including a lot of sugar. 
I think that is a #1 pointer to 

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inflammation in the body. 
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going to stand with. 
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when we all went through COVID, 
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get the injection? 
I did. 

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I got the injection. 
I got. 

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It are people still getting 
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Yeah, I had it a year ago and it
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So. 
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injections in the first place? 
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was promotion because everybody 
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We don't know what this thing 
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It's killing a lot of people. 
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so that's why they got. 
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know, Joel knows and I know I 
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Yeah, haven't even had the flu, 

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you know, I mean, no, I've been,
I'm eating what these people say

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that I shouldn't be in, I mean, 
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very, very high saturated fat, 
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once. 
So am I doing something wrong or

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are they doing something wrong? 
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in the carnivore, I haven't met 
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serious heart issues. 
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the carnivore space in the last,
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heart problem it might have? 
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definitely carried over their. 
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that's but The thing is, but 
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saying, that's only a small case
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You look at, you look at hard 
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in my country, nearly 2000 
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having heart attacks. 
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there's statistics. 
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statistics in Ireland alone, how
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The question is simply this. 
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wrong? 
Are we looking at the right 

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problem? 
Are we looking at the right 

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what we should be looking at 
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is there's a many, there's many 
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We should be looking at blood 
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We should be looking at the HBA 
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We should be looking at CAC 
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We should be looking at fasting 
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We should be looking at 
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There's many, many things that 
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comes to blood work instead of 
just telling me that I have, I 

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have high cholesterol. 
And I don't think that's been, I

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don't think that's the case 
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this rubbish, that saturated 
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Have they ever heard of the 
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Yeah, they don't. 
What, what else were you, what 

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else were you consuming with 
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that burger? 
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With that, with that eggs in the
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When you're having your eggs in 
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eggs in the morning on its own? 
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orange juice, oats, fruits, all 
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So this is what I'm trying to 
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When you start looking at and 
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you're eating the same food, but
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it with something else. 
We're not, we're eating it on 

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There's no sugar involved here. 

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When you mix sugar and fat 
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when you're you're more like 
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Process. 
That's just about every 

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processed food known to mankind 
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You just became a carnivore 
coach yourself there, Joel, a 

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couple of months ago. 
Congratulations again. 

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So what what do you what do you 
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The, the The thing is, this one 
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people that suffer from all 
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It still boils down to the diet.
Whatever if it's high blood 

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sugar, if your ABA 1C score is 
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inflammation, this common 
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the fact that maybe you're 
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hit by a car. 
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boils down to what you feed 
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Western diet or just the normal 
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avoid red meat and processed 
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So the root cause of all these 
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this journey and coaching people
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And how do I know? 
You put someone on the ketogenic

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diet, high fat diet and you see 
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into remission one after the 
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That tells you something. 
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demonized meat for a long time, 
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And when you go on I fat Protein
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in every ramification in every 
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physically, you know, even your 
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good. 
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So what I've seen is the 
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what we feed ourselves with 
these days. 

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Tell me one autoimmune condition
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probably lifestyle or the diet. 
Heart diseases could be as a 

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Imagine you reversing your 
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body with the right nutrients. 
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started to see that food can 
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You know your body can actually 
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right environment for it. 
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need to go with public plants in
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you could be using herbs. 
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root cause of the problem. 
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You need to. 
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environment. 
You need to remove what is 

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causing the problem in the 1st 
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We're talking about inflammation
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Have you gotten rid of the 
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No, you still eating junks. 
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all the ingredients in it. 
People talk about maybe when you

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know other people will tell me, 
but I can go on a calorie 

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deficit. 
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to go on a calorie deficit. 
It means you could still eat 

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Doritos, you could still eat 
other foods in calorie as long 

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as the the calories, calories 
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But what about the other 
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product? 
What what what about the harmful

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effect of this ingredients in 
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So when you strip these things 
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problem or the root cause of 
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actually go through is their 
diet is the food and your 

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lifestyle. 
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food is one of the one of the 
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metabolic health. 
Fundamentally, yeah. 

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Fundamentally, but we still have
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well that people don't pay 
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movement, especially stress. 
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that they don't even know that 
it's a major factor to optimal 

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to optimal health. 
So once we put all of this thing

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into consideration, people start
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people these things are not 
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It's just a matter of making 
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I want to thrive and I want to 
put all this because what people

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are doing is you're looking for 
quick fix and you're managing 

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the problem. 
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them, they're just managing the 
problem and they tell you this 

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is not working, but you're just 
managing it. 

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You're not providing the right 
environment for even your coach 

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coaching you are UC results 
because you might be eating 

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right and you're not sleeping 
well, it wouldn't add up. 

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It's all connects. 
It's it's it's it's all 

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connects. 
So you need to connect the dots 

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by moving outside and by getting
outside by providing yourself 

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with the right environment. 
You know it all it all works 

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out. 
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and to say you want to prevent 
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you're on the vaccine that the, 
the Pharmaceutical industry have

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provided for you and you're 
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still lead to heart disease 
because your lifestyle changes. 

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So we, we blame, we blame all 
the factors, but have we checked

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ourselves to see what we're 
doing wrong? 

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So I think when people look into
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movement to sleep and checking 
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terms of stressing, I feel like 
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It's it's that easy. 
I, I would like to say, Joel, we

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look at this young lady and she 
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She looks young and healthy and 
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anything superficial that would 
give us a clue into her having 

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the potential for a heart 
attack. 

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Yeah, she could. 
She could. 

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Sorry. 
She could look like she's not 

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obese, but you don't have to 
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sick because if you look at 
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it, what's her lifestyle? 
What's she eating? 

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What, what's, what's the 
lifestyle? 

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You don't have to be obese. 
People, people, people can still

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look skinny and be very sick 
because they're still not 

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providing the right the right 
environment for their body. 

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But this is where this is where 
we talk about outside image 

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versus the insides, which we 
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this to a few days ago about 
visceral fats. 

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This is the fat that's around 
the organs. 

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This is what's important. 
Like whereas when you look at 

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someone, we automatically, I 
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presentation. 
You saw what I looked like. 

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I looked incredible. 
I had a six pack, but nobody had

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a clue what was going on in the 
inside of my body. 

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I was inflamed. 
I was in a really, really bad 

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way and I hadn't got a clue. 
I didn't even understand what 

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inflammation was. 
I didn't even, I didn't even 

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know what visceral fat was. 
I wasn't even, I wasn't even 

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taught this when I was in, when 
I was in school, when I, when I 

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done my qualification, none of 
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All I was taught was, OK, excess
body fat is going to lead to 

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heart disease, It's going to 
lead to obesity. 

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And they're all focusing on 
insulin resistance pretty much. 

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But they were never telling me 
what the, what the root cause 

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was. 
Never. 

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They never spoke to me about 
carbohydrates are going to cause

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inflammation. 
Seed oils, these are horrendous 

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for the body. 
It was always fat, saturated 

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fat. 
Stay away from saturated fats 

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because they contain too many 
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It's going to lead to heart 
disease. 

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High cholesterol is what we were
all thought. 

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This is what I used to teach the
people. 

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But now, like you mentioned, 
Victoria, this lady looked, she 

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looked healthy. 
You look at her, she's she's 

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vibrant. 
She's very skinny. 

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She's only 29. 
I mean, this is what's really 

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scary about this. 
This woman was only 29. 

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And I OK, if people want to say,
OK, well, that it could have 

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been the family, it's probably 
down to genetics. 

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That's fine. 
I'll accept that. 

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But you are eating the same 
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You're eating the same foods. 
Don't tell me you're not. 

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You are, you know, I mean, so 
when you come into the world, 

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what have you been fed? 
You've been fed as the same 

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foods your parents are giving 
you. 

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You know what I mean? 
I mean, look, look at my family.

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You know, my situation, 
Victoria, in my family, cancer 

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is a, is a, is a big thing at 
the moment. 

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OK, There's been many, many 
cases of cancer in my family. 

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How come I haven't had it so 
far? 

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Now I, I, I believe I haven't 
had that such. 

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I've been up and lucky touch 
wood. 

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It doesn't happen to me, but I 
feel like since I've become 

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carnivore, my chances have gone 
down dramatically because I've 

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looked after myself the right 
way. 

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I can only imagine if I had to 
went the other way and kept on 

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doing the carbohydrates, the 
seed oils, I can tell you now we

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would have been having probably 
a different conversation 

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probably five years ago. 
Absolutely. 

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You know what I mean? 
Like they say, they say the the 

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genes, the genetic looks, the 
loads, the gun, but your your 

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lifestyle pulls the trigger, you
know, so I usually tell people 

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that you might have something 
going on in your gene, say it's 

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a redditory or whatever, but it 
can stop on you. 

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It can stop. 
You can put a stop to that by by

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changing because if you're 
saying it runs in my family, 

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what's the history of your 
family in terms of what what 

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their lifestyle is at? 
What exactly? 

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What their environment was, Yes.
Exactly. 

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So if everyone is trading on 
that path, it means it's going 

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to be the same with you. 
But if you decide to say I want 

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to do the opposite of what 
they're doing, it means you're 

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going to get a different result.
So. 

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Yeah. 
I'm sorry, they do a lot of 

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talking. 
I have, I have a friend, 

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especially who, who is very fond
of genetic research and CRISPR 

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technology. 
And he says that pardon, CRISPR 

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is just going to come up with 
all these cures to all these 

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metabolic diseases. 
And my take on that, and my 

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response to him is that doesn't 
mean it's a cure. 

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It's just another form of 
allopathic medicine in my 

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estimation to apply genetic 
changes to a body. 

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Because if you do not change 
your environment, you're going 

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to have similar results. 
So if you're eating the same 

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way, even if your genes change, 
it may lower your potential for 

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a heart attack, let's say 
arterial disease, but that 

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doesn't mean it's going to 
change it completely. 

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And I think we're going to 
discover that this is years in 

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the future, 510 years in the 
future when they have CRISPR 

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developed. 
But it's it is I agree with you 

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down to environment and diet. 
And can I just ask a question, 

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Joel, do you think that all the 
foods that works currently where

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we work is currently consuming 
and it's causing the problem? 

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Because a lot of people will 
hear this and say they can't be 

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talking about, they can't be 
talking about fruits and 

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vegetables. 
Surely these are not the 

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problem. 
So in your opinion, is it, is it

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all foods or is it just just in 
particular processed food? 

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Well, we, because when I got 
into this lifestyle and I was 

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questioning things, I had to 
like, do my research. 

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But one of my conviction about, 
let's say, for example, fruits 

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would be the fact that I know 
that all the fruits, most of the

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fruits out there in the 
supermarket right now are not 

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even grown in nature anymore. 
That's that's one conviction for

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me to say that it's not even 
right for me to actually what's 

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the source? 
And this is the problem. 

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A lot of people tell me they 
need fruits, and I asked them a 

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question. 
I said, this fruit you're 

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consuming, how sure are you that
it actually grows in nature? 

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But, you know, it's GMO. 
You know, it's actually not in 

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nature. 
And they say, OK, yeah, but 

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that's true. 
But the problem is, you know, 

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this is true and you're still 
consuming it. 

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So now it's not about what's the
right food to eat. 

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The question is right now, which
is the most healthiest food to 

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eat? 
You're talking about vegetables.

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You know that most of those 
vegetables out there contains 

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anti nutrients, especially from 
oxy to phytase and all of those 

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things. 
OK, so what's the point of 

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actually consuming them? 
You said fibre. 

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They are not essential, they 
don't do nothing, they only help

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you to box too, just to help you
probably reduce Pike from the 

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carbohydrate. 
So why are you eating the carbs 

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in the 1st place when you have 
to eat something to actually 

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slow down the digestion of the 
carbohydrates? 

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Yeah. 
Why not totally remove these 

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things and leave optimally? 
Exactly. 

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Exactly. 
So if you want to convince me 

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that fruits my analogy, because 
from my own perspective, I go 

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00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,360
from the way I why you relate my
kind of lifestyle to the 

454
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:42,920
ancestral way of living. 
I told you a simple analogy. 

455
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,560
We are hunters and gatherers, 
right? 

456
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,840
So back in the days these guys 
are looking for, they're 

457
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,840
hunting, they're hunting for 
their next meal. 

458
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,040
And in the process, sometimes 
they have to run, sometimes they

459
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,240
have to run back and escape. 
There's sprinting, going on, 

460
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,360
walking, dodging, jogging just 
to catch their next meal. 

461
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,320
Now probably they cannot hunt 
for any animals because these 

462
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,880
animals too are literally smart,
you know? 

463
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,360
Now these guys are hungry. 
They go for fruits just to 

464
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:21,160
survive. 
It's just survival and they are 

465
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,760
in the process of always being 
active. 

466
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,480
They have ways of quickly 
burning the sugar off their 

467
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,800
body. 
Yes. 

468
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,160
People right now have the 
opportunity to actually live 

469
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,760
like those people. 
So you want to go for something 

470
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,840
convenient. 
Meanwhile, it's not something 

471
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,160
that was supposed to be 
convenient, it's supposed to be 

472
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,800
something for survival. 
Yes, emergency. 

473
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,640
I can't find nothing to eat. 
I need to fall back on this. 

474
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,640
One. 
Absolutely. 

475
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,880
That's really. 
About the nutrients you want to 

476
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,400
get from this survival fruit 
immediately. 

477
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,560
You chew that apple, your body 
absorbs the sugar immediately. 

478
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,440
Now you're talking about the 
nutrients. 

479
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:03,840
There is no nutrients because 
compared to animal product that 

480
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,000
you get in in in their bio 
available availability. 

481
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,640
So it all boils down to saying 
nutrition is very simple. 

482
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,120
Yes. 
Dead animals, animal products, 

483
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:19,760
you get everything you need. 
You can tell me I can eat all 

484
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,760
the tomatoes, but how many bags 
of tomatoes would I eat to 

485
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,480
equate the nutrient I want to 
get from from my my red fatty 

486
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,840
meat? 
I I just want to say, in my 

487
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,000
opinion, agriculture changed the
way we live. 

488
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,600
And we think of agriculture as 
this marvelous invention that 

489
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,240
saved humanity from famine. 
Exactly. 

490
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,120
It was, it was another stopgap 
emergency situation. 

491
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:48,840
It really should have been that 
way. 

492
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,360
But we took it a, a whole 
quantum leap further and made it

493
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,400
the basis of our diet. 
And that's where I believe 

494
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,400
humanity went wrong, because 
meat, as you said, gives us 

495
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,000
everything we need. 
Yeah, it gives us everything we 

496
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,200
need. 
And one of the reasons why it 

497
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,800
would would could be an excuse 
for people feeding on grains or 

498
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,760
any other thing is probably when
it comes to rearing animals, 

499
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,240
maybe it could be scarcity. 
But these days people are not 

500
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,560
even making efforts to actually 
say I want to rear my animals. 

501
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,240
People have the opportunity to 
say I want to have a poultry, 

502
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,440
but nobody's even putting that 
into consideration to say I can 

503
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,720
actually do this because people 
invest money in other things 

504
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,280
rather than investing in saying 
I want to own a farm to to have 

505
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:42,640
my own to have my own farm where
I can actually raise cattles and

506
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,520
still feed myself. 
And I feel like if everybody can

507
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280
adapt, this would have enough 
supplies. 

508
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,480
And that's what I want to 
encourage people to do. 

509
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,320
If you have an opportunity, you 
can start raising your own 

510
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,080
cattle, start raising your own 
bull to produce enough so we 

511
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,800
don't have excuses and falling 
back to what will make us sick 

512
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,560
in the 1st place because we have
foods that actually gives us 

513
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,640
nutrient that prevents us from. 
You said you haven't been sick 

514
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,320
for nine years. 
Why? 

515
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,400
Because of what you feed 
yourself with, because of your 

516
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,080
lifestyle. 
The moment you deviate from 

517
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,680
eating this way and you fall 
back to saying you want to go 

518
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,800
back to fruits and you want to 
go back to greens, you see the 

519
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,920
difference. 
Number one, you start feeling 

520
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,440
bloated and that's one of the 
reasons why I stopped eating 

521
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,640
probably vegetables because I 
noticed the difference when I 

522
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,760
was eating these foods and now I
don't, I don't longer suffer 

523
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,600
from probably acid reflux. 
I don't suffer from indigestion 

524
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,760
or bloating because I removed 
these things completely. 

525
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,080
So if they were LV, why was I 
feeling that way? 

526
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,160
And when I removed them, why was
I feeling better? 

527
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,600
And there are thousands of 
carnivores that will tell you 

528
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,520
the same. 
A lot of people are so used to 

529
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,400
to living in bondage that they 
feel like it's normal. 

530
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,680
But the thing about it is, Joel,
like before we got on this car 

531
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:14,040
on this, on this podcast, I had 
around maybe 3 lbs in me about 

532
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,760
about an hour ago. 
Now I feel fantastic. 

533
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,840
I feel like I can go to the gym 
now. 

534
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,680
I have no heavy feeling. 
I'm not bloated, you know, I 

535
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,200
mean, I don't feel like I need a
nap, you know, I mean, usually I

536
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,200
remember like years ago when I 
used to have a heavy carb meal, 

537
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,160
especially at this, at this time
of the night, I'd be ready to go

538
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,560
to bed. 
But I'm, I'm, I'm, I've, I've 

539
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,560
loads of energy, you know, I 
mean, I'm doing this podcast 

540
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,960
now. 
I could, I could go for a walk 

541
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,640
now. 
I could easily go for a walk for

542
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,720
45 minutes no problem. 
So this is what I'm saying to 

543
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,440
people. 
Like I'm not saying that my case

544
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,120
is for everyone. 
I'm, I'm well aware that people 

545
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,400
have strong immune systems and 
they're probably, they probably 

546
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,400
don't get sick ever. 
But during that time, how many 

547
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,080
times have you struggled with 
your health? 

548
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,640
I haven't had one issue with my 
health in nine years. 

549
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,960
Not once. 
You know, I mean, no blowing, no

550
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,320
mental health issues, no 
depression, nothing, no lack in 

551
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,360
energy. 
I, I, you guys know, I wake up 

552
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,200
every, every morning very, very 
early. 

553
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,200
I'm ready to go. 
So what I'm trying to say is my 

554
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,440
life has never been better since
I've eaten this way. 

555
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,160
What? 
Whereas when I get the 

556
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,520
carbohydrates, it just felt like
everything was going downhill. 

557
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,360
Everything was going downhill. 
And I questioned the whole damn 

558
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,440
process. 
I was like, is this meant to 

559
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,120
happen as I get older? 
Or is this is this something 

560
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,400
else? 
And for years and years and 

561
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,480
years, I was convinced that 
because I'm getting older, this 

562
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,040
is what happens. 
You're meant to suffer as you 

563
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,840
get, as you get older. 
Complete and utter nonsense. 

564
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,680
Nonsense. 
And one thing to add up to this 

565
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,720
is most people think they're 
thriving now eating all of those

566
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,120
things. 
But what I've gotten to realise 

567
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,360
that it catches up with them 
later on. 

568
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,640
It's just your body takes 
course. 

569
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,000
It's just like adding a little 
drop of water into the into the 

570
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,760
ocean. 
A little drop of water makes an 

571
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,520
ocean. 
You can think you, you, you're 

572
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,800
going to escape it. 
But people don't even know that.

573
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,040
When we talk about living 
optimally, it doesn't have to do

574
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,800
with you feeling sick 
physically. 

575
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,600
I used to suffer from brain fog.
I never knew it was it was a 

576
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,840
thing until I started to see 
that I'm thinking much more 

577
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,960
clearly. 
The difference was clear. 

578
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,960
Like I could feel like something
like a big fog just left me. 

579
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,200
I could see. 
But you wouldn't know these 

580
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,200
things until you actually 
experience what it feels like. 

581
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,840
So you might not be suffering 
from inflammation or whatnot or 

582
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,880
type 2, but there's the way you 
think differently. 

583
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,600
That's what we call mental 
clarity. 

584
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920
So you could think like you're 
eating all these fruits, 

585
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,800
vegetables and feel like you're 
you're doing fine, but it's 

586
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,320
still beyond what you think 
about doing fine. 

587
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,120
They still must life. 
And one of the comments I would 

588
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,360
get when I write post stuff is 
we are all going to die at the 

589
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,280
end of the day. 
But how do you want to die? 

590
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,640
Do you want to die? 
Do you want to die feeling sick 

591
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,720
or not living optimally or 
fulfilling your potentials? 

592
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,920
For you to fulfill your 
potentials, you have to be 100% 

593
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,200
complete, but mentally and 
physically so. 

594
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,320
But the. 
Thing about it is the thing 

595
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,920
about it is Topic or Joel, 
there's a big beautiful world 

596
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,400
out there that I don't think 
people really see until they 

597
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,120
become carnivores. 
Does that make sense? 

598
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,480
I see, I see the world 
differently now compared to when

599
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,800
I used to be a carb addict. 
I used to be, I used to have 

600
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,840
that anger. 
I was always Moody, I was always

601
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,960
grumpy. 
Whereas now I can't explain. 

602
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,680
I just see the world differently
now. 

603
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,760
I just enjoy the world now. 
I enjoy the sunshine. 

604
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,880
I enjoy the small things like 
going for a walk round and 

605
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,080
giving my body the right 
nutrition. 

606
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,440
You know, I mean nature, like I 
didn't give a shit about this 

607
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,840
years ago, whereas now I do. 
So when I, when I think about 

608
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,719
that now, I mean you, me and you
were on a farm there three weeks

609
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,840
ago when I mentioned to you, if 
I could live here for the rest 

610
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,920
of my life with the Internet and
the gym, I'd be, I'd be 

611
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,159
extremely happy. 
You know what I mean? 

612
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:26,800
Because like it was, it was 
incredible. 

613
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,320
Like you had everything there. 
It was so, so peaceful. 

614
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,920
Peaceful. 
Yes, I'm saying it's just, it's 

615
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,159
just, you guys know what I'm 
talking about here. 

616
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,000
You just see the different. 
You see the world differently. 

617
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,639
You know, The thing is this 
carnival removed the noises 

618
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,719
because you're not even, you 
know, you get in tune with 

619
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,280
nature in itself. 
Because one thing I tell people 

620
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,840
is when you eat like this, 
there's nothing artificial. 

621
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,719
You're connected. 
You're connected to the divine. 

622
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,600
It's more like a spiritual 
journey because it's clean. 

623
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,280
But when you eat ultra processed
food, it's filled with 

624
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,320
additives, too many ingredients 
that you don't even know where 

625
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,000
they are coming from. 
So tell me how that's not even 

626
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,880
going to affect you, your mood, 
because most of those 

627
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,000
ingredients, you can't even 
pronounce them. 

628
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,240
It's not, it's, it doesn't exist
in nature. 

629
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,520
So just that's, that's the same 
thing with people that inject 

630
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,320
themselves with different 
peptides on GLPS and stuff like 

631
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,360
that. 
What exactly are you putting 

632
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,680
into your body? 
I can tell you for a fact that 

633
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:35,320
if I'm eating a fatty meat, it 
comes from nature salt, from 

634
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,160
nature water, and that's it. 
Yeah, very basic. 

635
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,920
Very basic and simple, straight 
to the point, no complication, 

636
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600
no noise. 
You know, I've never had like 

637
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,760
Peace of Mind like this when it 
comes to food before. 

638
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,640
I struggle what what am I 
eating? 

639
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,440
What am I doing? 
What am I, what am I going to 

640
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,920
eat? 
But now he just comes. 

641
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,240
I know what to eat and I know 
that what I'm eating use me and 

642
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,040
it provides everything. 
I didn't worry about nothing. 

643
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,840
So it's very, very interesting 
to actually embrace this 

644
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,520
lifestyle because the the joy it
brings and the Peace of Mind it 

645
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,800
brings. 
Because one thing is this, you 

646
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,200
walk into a room and everything 
that comes to your head or what 

647
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,840
you want to talk about just 
revolves around this lifestyle. 

648
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,360
Even if you get into a 
conversation with someone, you 

649
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,480
don't even know how you end up 
talking about carnival because 

650
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,360
you just feel like the world 
needs to know there is something

651
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,000
great happening within you and 
you need to experience 

652
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,200
greatness. 
But a lot of people don't even 

653
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,800
have an iota of what greatness 
looks like because it starts 

654
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,400
from what you put in your body. 
It starts from your lifestyle. 

655
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,520
And that's why I say this is 
ancestral living. 

656
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,520
This guy never had problems back
in the days. 

657
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,120
We have complicated things too 
much, too, too much. 

658
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,840
Now you want to go and cook in 
your kitchen. 

659
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,320
You have so numerous spices. 
You know, at the end of the day,

660
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:12,240
you've altered the you all that 
food in itself try to perform 

661
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:15,520
different experiments, you know,
on food with leads to no 

662
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,840
nutritional value what 
whatsoever. 

663
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,880
So it's just more like you're 
just feeding your taste buds. 

664
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,440
You're not feeding yourself. 
And that translates to you know,

665
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,800
you see some, you see some even 
to sausages. 

666
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,320
You look at the ingredients, you
look at it, you can't even 

667
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,080
pronounce some. 
How come cornstarch, sucrose, 

668
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,080
dis dis blah blah in just one 
sausages. 

669
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,680
Now you put that into your body.
What are you expecting? 

670
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,880
How do you expect to feel? 
Yeah. 

671
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,120
You're going to feel miserable. 
You know you're going to. 

672
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,280
Look, foreign substances, yeah. 
So this is what? 

673
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Whatever, whatever. 
Heard of what? 

674
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,720
Why can't we not just go back to
single ingredient foods? 

675
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,040
Why do we have to have so many 
ingredients in our? 

676
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,640
Food What's the What's the 
purpose of many ingredients in 

677
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,720
the food? 
Mostly the spices, especially 

678
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,200
when you make it more flavorful,
you're getting some extra 

679
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,640
pleasure out of it. 
And that is comes from the 

680
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,120
perspective that food is 
entertainment and that's part of

681
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,360
our modern world. 
And modern. 

682
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,720
By modern, I mean this goes back
hundreds of years where people 

683
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,320
ate, they had feasts for the fun
of it. 

684
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,240
There's a guy who just brought 
out an Assyrian cookbook. 

685
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:32,280
He translated this very ancient 
text. 

686
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,600
It was meant for the king and, 
and there were all kinds of 

687
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:41,560
sweeteners and spices and things
that were made to give people 

688
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,200
food pleasure. 
And that's really that's, that's

689
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,240
part of we think too much as 
humans. 

690
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:52,320
I think our brains are too too 
big and too busy and we want 

691
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,760
that entertainment and also the 
comfort of carbohydrates. 

692
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,720
I also think. 
I also think that these foods 

693
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:02,360
are just engineered for people 
to get sick. 

694
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,960
I think there's there is a 
connection the this industries 

695
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,840
that produce food and probably 
the the people that create this 

696
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,160
medication and drugs because. 
It seems that way, yeah. 

697
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,200
Yeah, because it got me thinking
to see if people actually eat 

698
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,000
rightly. 
If there were no ingredients in 

699
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,920
this food, how would people get 
sick and how would people 

700
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,360
probably start to get 
medication? 

701
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,960
And I think there's a 
correlation between these two 

702
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,240
industries. 
That's why these food are being 

703
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,240
engineered in in in those in 
those fashion to actually keep 

704
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:44,160
us in the loop because it goes 
through a factory process where 

705
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,120
they process this food for you 
to come back for them because I 

706
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,160
think there those chemicals make
you addictive. 

707
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Exactly. 
It's. 

708
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,360
Just your mind. 
And when you when you start to 

709
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,480
eat them, over time you begin to
fall sick than the other 

710
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,040
industry profits. 
You are addicted to the food, 

711
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,800
you are addicted, you go get 
medication, you still come back 

712
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,040
to the same thing making you 
sick. 

713
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,600
And it's a cycle. 
And the only way you can break 

714
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,920
this cycle is to go carnival. 
Yeah, you have to. 

715
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,600
Well said. 
Well, Joel, I want to be 

716
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,160
respectful of your time. 
Yeah, because I know you're a 

717
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,880
busy man, but I haven't talked 
to you for the last few minutes.

718
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,640
You were at this RE Wild event 
with me a few weeks ago, and I 

719
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,240
haven't spoke to you since. 
So first of all, how was it? 

720
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,760
Did you enjoy it? 
Victoria wants to know all about

721
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,320
it. 
Yes, I'm so sorry I couldn't 

722
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,040
make it. 
Here you see the summit was 

723
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,840
power packed. 
It was unbelievable. 

724
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,720
I would say we went in there to 
actually want to deliver what we

725
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:51,160
know how to do best, but we went
out of that room fulfilled. 

726
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,240
Not fulfilled because we 
delivered a great speech, but we

727
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,480
were fulfilled by the numbers of
life that were touched that 

728
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,120
night. 
You know, I got back home and I 

729
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,520
was literally teary to see 
people come ask question and 

730
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,440
people actually making the right
decision right from that night. 

731
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,480
You know, and This is why We 
Wild was built. 

732
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,880
It was it was built because we 
want to change the narrative. 

733
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,400
We want to change the way people
think in our country. 

734
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,200
A lot of people don't have this 
knowledge that we have. 

735
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,440
If you look at the the 
population of people that 

736
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,600
actually believe in the 
mainstream health advice versus 

737
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,400
what we are doing, it's like a 
90 to 10 ratio. 

738
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,800
But you walk into a room where 
people have their conviction 

739
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,520
already about the mainstream 
health and they can tell you to 

740
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,600
your face that I'm going to make
the right decision because of 

741
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,920
this event. 
You know, that was that was 

742
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,240
fulfilling for me. 
You know, it was really 

743
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:51,360
fulfilling for me. 
It's not about delivering the 

744
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,280
speech. 
It's about the reaction. 

745
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,120
It's about the feedback. 
Eventually at the end of the 

746
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,120
day, people telling you I need 
to clear my pantry and start to 

747
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,680
eat this. 
There is this rumor that walked 

748
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,560
up to me. 
I think she should be in her 80s

749
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,160
asking me she want to, she was 
telling me she want to get rid 

750
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,160
of us penis, asking me things 
she needs to do to start up. 

751
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,040
And I'm like this woman I've 
lived up to 80 years. 

752
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,800
But one night she had a change 
of mind about food. 

753
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,800
That's to tell you how impactful
the event was. 

754
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,520
That's fulfilling for me. 
And we are happy that we are 

755
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,080
happy to be able to think about 
this initiative and we brought 

756
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,480
it to life. 
You know, that's really, really 

757
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,960
fulfilling. 
And yeah, we we're just getting 

758
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,440
started. 
I mean, for me, Joel, it was 

759
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,280
when I when I, when I literally 
walked inside the door and this 

760
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,840
guy just came over to me and 
this stranger, I've never met 

761
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,840
this guy in my life. 
And he came over to me and says,

762
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,080
you're Mark from the Carnivore 
Evolution podcast. 

763
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,760
And I was like, wow, you're 
coming to see me at this event 

764
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,480
because you've been listening to
me over these years on the 

765
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,920
podcast that just make me, that 
just made me so damn proud, 

766
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,040
Victoria. 
And then when I stepped on that 

767
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,640
stage, I mean, Joe will tell 
you, I was, I was, I was back in

768
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,840
the BM, the Airbnb, I was ready 
to go. 

769
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,160
I couldn't wait. 
I couldn't wait. 

770
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,160
I spoke to the guy who's 
literally 24 hours before the 

771
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,320
event and I said, listen, what 
are you nervous about? 

772
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:20,240
I cannot wait to I cannot wait 
to get up there. 

773
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,400
And then when Rob was up there 
and introducing us, I was on the

774
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,640
ace literally just shaking. 
Just it was pumped up ready to. 

775
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,200
Go. 
I was ready to get into the 

776
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,360
ring. 
I was ready to go. 

777
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,320
And it's just, it's just the 
experience. 

778
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,600
And like what Joel said it was, 
it was about what people said 

779
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,040
was after the events, like so 
many people came up to us and 

780
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,200
said it was amazing. 
I would go and see this again. 

781
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,400
I would tell my friends, I'm I, 
I should, I should have said to 

782
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,560
my family, you should be here. 
So I think a lot of people walk 

783
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,160
there with events that night 
fulfilled. 

784
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,040
Like, like what Joel said, It 
was just honestly, I was on 

785
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,400
cloud 9 myself and Joel got home
very, very late that night. 

786
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,880
But it was just we, honestly, we
woke up the next morning, we 

787
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,000
went for a walk and we spoke 
with two hours on it. 

788
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,080
It was just incredible. 
It was it was great because it 

789
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,080
feels different trying to say 
this online, you know, but this 

790
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,920
is, you know, you expressing 
yourself and people can actually

791
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:24,320
feel the passion and they can 
actually see the genuine, the 

792
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,360
genuine passion for what we 
believe in because this has 

793
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,600
worked for us. 
And they can actually see in 

794
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,000
reality, because this is not 
something you're telling people 

795
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,800
that there there is. 
OK. 

796
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,920
I showed my throwback picture 
and I told them beneath the 

797
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,600
there's so many things that were
going on the ground, you know, 

798
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,120
they could see, they could feel 
it. 

799
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,320
And This is why we need to keep 
doing what we're doing. 

800
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,720
You know, like Mark met someone 
that's been watching him for 

801
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:56,400
years. 
You'd never know who you are 

802
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,360
impacting out there. 
And that's what life should be 

803
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,400
about, impact, you know, and we 
did that in Cork and I'm sure 

804
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,920
they want us back. 
They say when are we coming 

805
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,240
back? 
Oh, wonderful. 

806
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Yeah. 
So when? 

807
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,320
So when is the? 
So when is the next one, Joe? 

808
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:18,840
Yes, October 24th we're having 
another one in Belfast and it's 

809
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,400
going to be wrapped up in right 
in. 

810
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,800
It's going to be wrapping at All
Star University Belfast. 

811
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,680
You know, this time around it's 
built, it's going to be more 

812
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:32,320
packed because we've got, we've 
got amazing, you know, amazing, 

813
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,600
amazing topics we're going to be
talking about. 

814
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,440
And we've got extra guests. 
We've got someone coming from 

815
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Portugal and we've got like Rob 
Wadby coming from England. 

816
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,680
We've. 
Got we've got Jake coming 

817
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,880
around, exciting, exciting 
moments I had, exciting moments 

818
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,440
I had, you know, it's probably, 
it's promising to be better than

819
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Coke and we can only get better 
from here. 

820
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,640
And isn't it, and isn't it 
amazing, Joel, that me and you 

821
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,640
only had this as an idea months 
ago and now it's just blowing up

822
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,440
now? 
Blowing up. 

823
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,760
Yeah, it's. 
Calm, it's time. 

824
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,400
Yeah, it's time. 
And you know, The thing is this,

825
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,560
I like the fact I did. 
I never doubted Mark at the at 

826
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,480
the initials when he said this 
to me. 

827
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,400
And you know, we just worked on 
it. 

828
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,120
And you see, you see dreams, 
dreams are coming true because 

829
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,760
everything is about making sure 
you, you dream big and make sure

830
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,080
not just dreaming big, you 
actually work towards those 

831
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,400
dreams. 
And we can see the reality now. 

832
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,640
It's, it's becoming a movement. 
You know, even on social media, 

833
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,080
I've been seeing like big names 
watching what we are doing. 

834
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,720
And, and that's, that's it. 
We just getting started. 

835
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:45,000
Like I said, you know, we're 
just laying foundation for 

836
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,120
bigger things to come. 
And the goal is to make sure we 

837
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,800
spread this across the nooks and
crannies of the world. 

838
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,680
And you know, we like we wild is
we reclaim our body and we 

839
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,600
return to health. 
So that's it. 

840
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,040
And I have to say, Victoria, 
like Joel's presentation was 

841
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,000
unbelievable. 
I've never seen a presentation 

842
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,360
like it. 
He's done a, he's done a 

843
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,520
presentation on basically on his
culture and I've never seen 

844
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,160
anything like it ever. 
Do you have on video now the the

845
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,920
whole presentation, the whole 
show? 

846
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,640
Yeah, he's coming. 
He's coming out soon. 

847
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,200
We're working on it. 
He's coming out soon. 

848
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,240
You know, Mark, Mark was telling
me this and I'm like, Are you 

849
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,520
sure about what you're saying? 
But I believed, I believed what 

850
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,680
he was saying when I got 
feedback from people to say you 

851
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,000
really did well. 
And I think it wasn't my 

852
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,880
intention to actually do that. 
But I feel like it's just a 

853
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,320
burning desire to actually pass 
the message across that made it 

854
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,040
look so, you know, it was 
natural. 

855
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,400
It felt so real. 
And that's what Mark was saying,

856
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,200
that you don't even need to be 
worried about anything. 

857
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,600
Just go there and be yourself 
and getting that feedback from 

858
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,360
Mark himself makes me very happy
because someone has been in this

859
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,560
piece for years telling me that 
I I did very great, made me so 

860
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,680
so, so, so happy. 
You know, you wouldn't know how 

861
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,720
that what really meant to me 
until I got to my room and I was

862
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:12,800
just very, very happy, you know,
to say yes, I made I made Mark 

863
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,000
proud. 
Well, the thing about it is 

864
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,000
though, Joel, you should be 
extremely proud of yourself that

865
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,400
you're coming. 
You came to this event as a 

866
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,400
foreigner. 
You you brought, you brought 

867
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,080
your own culture to this. 
You should be proud of yourself 

868
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,480
because honestly, it was 
incredible. 

869
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,920
It really was. 
Honestly, Victoria, when you see

870
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,960
it, you'll you'll, you'll know 
exactly what I'm what I'm 

871
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:34,960
talking. 
About. 

872
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,280
It's just he should be so damn 
proud that he brought his own 

873
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,360
culture into this and he made it
work. 

874
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:45,080
And when you look at a story to 
where he is now, it's just 

875
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,480
honestly, I know 6 of I've said 
this a few times when, when we 

876
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,520
were in Cork, it's just 
honestly, it's incredible, 

877
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,680
amazing, absolutely amazing. 
Thank you. 

878
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,400
Very quick. 
Thank you very much for the kind

879
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,680
words. 
I appreciate that. 

880
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,560
But Victoria, I believe you 
can't wait to to see, to see. 

881
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,000
You've been seeing the snippet 
we uploaded 1 today. 

882
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,200
Snippet. 
Yeah. 

883
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,360
Did you see what Mark did? 
A cock? 

884
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,200
Yeah. 
Yes, yes I did. 

885
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,960
I've been watching that video. 
If you see that video get to 

886
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,360
like 2000 views trust me I 
watched it 500 times. 

887
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,240
Great, great. 
We want to see the whole the 

888
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,600
whole thing you'll be dropping. 
You'll be dropping snippets. 

889
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,360
You know, we still have more to 
come. 

890
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,040
More to come, more to come. 
So he's just getting started. 

891
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,160
If they have more to come, yeah.
Well, Joel? 

892
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,320
Yeah. 
Honestly, I can't wait. 

893
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,880
I can't wait to meet up with you
again. 

894
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,800
Now what? 
When is it? 

895
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,480
Saturday week? 
Yeah, Saturday week. 

896
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,560
Saturday. 
Week. 

897
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,640
We'll do it. 
We'll do it all over. 

898
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,760
Yeah, we'll do. 
It all over. 

899
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,880
That's 10 days from now. 
Yeah. 

900
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,560
What time? 
What time does it open when? 

901
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,720
When the doors open. 
Oh, doors are open from 11:00 

902
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,480
AM, you know, registered. 
OK. 

903
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,960
And where and where do people 
get get tickets? 

904
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,800
Oh, rewild summit.com you know 
you can go on our Instagram 

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rewild summit everywhere. 
Rewild Summit. 

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You can get your ticket there 
and it promises to be amazing. 

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You have access to all speakers 
coming on that day and you get 

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free lunch as well on that day. 
Right. 

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Real food. 
Yeah, real food. 

910
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We can kill people. 
No expense, no expense spared 

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when it's our job. 
So you're going to get your 

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money's worth actually, because 
the knowledge you're bringing on

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board is very impeccable. 
You're getting your money's 

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worth and you get to experience 
like what real food is like what

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we do. 
You know, that's what we try to 

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do with Belfast. 
We try to make it as intimate as

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possible, you know, for people 
to actually have that intimate 

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session, not so much crowded 
because we believe that after 

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the event we're going to push it
out there online. 

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00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,160
You can have access to it, but 
let's create something much more

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valuable for people that 
appreciate good knowledge. 

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00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,200
Absolutely. 
Well, Joel, I wish you all the 

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best, buddy. 
And I'll be speaking very, very 

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soon. 
Where can people go to find you?

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00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,160
Yeah, you can. 
You can catch me everywhere, 

926
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,200
that carnival man. 
The the, the handle is on the 

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screen. 
That carnivalman.com, that's my 

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website, you know. 
Yeah, you can find me. 

929
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,920
And you can find me through 
Amazon, Instagram, Tiktok, 

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Facebook, everywhere the same 
handle that carnival man. 

931
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,680
Fantastic, Fantastic. 
Well, Joe, we'll be speaking 

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soon buddy, and I wish you all 
the best. 

933
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,000
Thank you very much. 
Thanks very much for. 

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Coming. 
It's nice catching up with you 

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again. 
I'd love to come back very soon 

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as well. 
All. 

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Right, bye. 
Bye now, if you get value from 

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this podcast, please hit 
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It really helps spread the word 

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E-mail Ennis Mark, 93, at 
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will always be in our hearts.