1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,960 But the PET scan, certainly they have to give you Fluorodex, 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,640 glucose some kind. Of yes, so when when I yes, so 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,560 when I did my first PET scan, I was like, what are you guys 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,560 injecting into my body? And they were like glucose. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,080 I said, oh, isn't that interesting? 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,320 That's what I said. Isn't that interesting that 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,600 you're injecting glucose so that you can see cancer? 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,880 Does that mean it isn't exactly what I said? 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Does that mean that the cancer is fed by sugar? 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,960 And they said. The girl that was putting the 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:46,120 injection in nodded her head and didn't say a word and I said 12 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:48,360 I've got it. I understand what you're saying 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,600 to me. So I'm correct in saying cancer 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,720 is fed by sugar. Why the hell are you telling us 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:00,800 to eat bread and grains and and sugary and like you get like I, 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,040 I noticed when when I was having my PET scan, there was a few 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,320 ladies getting some chemotherapy done in the same room because it 18 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:12,280 was the cancer, the cancer ward. And right after they get the 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,200 chemotherapy, do you know what they give them? 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,200 Biscuits. Cookies, biscuits, because I've 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,760 had immunotherapy and they offer me you that right afterwards 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,440 some juice, some fruit juice. And something sweet. 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,960 Biscuits. Yes. 24 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:34,000 And I was horrified because like, what are you doing? 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,000 You're like, you're actually poisoning, poisoning somebody 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,240 and then feeding him something else to grow the cancer again. 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,200 Like where are we going with this? 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,360 Hello and welcome to another episode of Carnivore Evolution. 29 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,480 I'm your host, Victoria Olson, and today our guest is Mary Tuck 30 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,600 from Melbourne, Australia. Hello Mary, welcome to the show. 31 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Thank you for having me. Oh, it's my pleasure. 32 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,400 Really. Mary, we understand that you are 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:09,960 a fitness trainer and soon to be a carnivore diet coach and you 34 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,640 have your own business. They have a studio, a fitness 35 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:16,720 studio and online training as well. 36 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,680 We're very happy to have you here because this is really a 37 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,520 focus for us and we'd like to hear about you. 38 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,560 Please give us some background how you came to become 39 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,440 interested in carnivore and taking it on yourself. 40 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,680 Well, about 2 1/2 years ago, almost three years ago, I was, I 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,800 was very unwell. I thought that I had gotten some 42 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,800 sort of stomach bug or whatever and ended up in hospital and 43 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,320 actually collapsed and died and they recessed me. 44 00:02:51,840 --> 00:03:00,160 Turns out, turns out that I have a tumour in in my ovaries and 45 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,840 the tumour was cancerous. Took a little while for them to 46 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:10,120 diagnose and they cut it out and I sort of went along my merry 47 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,840 way and just kept going with what I was doing. 48 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:20,120 And then about six months after that I found a lump in my 49 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:20,720 breast. Oh boy. 50 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,520 And yeah, didn't think much of it. 51 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,400 Just kept going and had a partner at the time and he was 52 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,560 like, we need to get it looked at. 53 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,160 It's very important for you to get this looked at. 54 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,440 And I was like, Nah, it's OK. It's nothing. 55 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,560 It's just, it's just like might be just a fist or something, you 56 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,480 know, I, I feel fine. Anyway, it turns out that little 57 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,280 lump was a cancer. Oh dear. 58 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:57,520 A quite a big lump of cancer. It was a stage 3 and yeah, I 59 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,040 actually didn't feel sick. So maybe it's just because I was 60 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,640 training so much or I, I don't know. 61 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,080 I didn't, I actually didn't feel it. 62 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,480 Thank you God that I didn't feel it. 63 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,640 But I, I didn't feel any symptoms at all. 64 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,560 And they decided to cut it out. And while they cut it out, they 65 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,079 cut out also three of my nodes from underneath my armpit. 66 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,320 They just thought it was a lump and that was going to be the end 67 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,800 of it. And so did I. 68 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,840 And then all three nodes were basically full of cancer. 69 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:38,760 So Oh dear, now I've got, you know, cancer in my lymph nodes 70 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,680 and had to sit down and have the conversation with with the 71 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,040 oncology team about how we're going to tackle this. 72 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:55,720 And the answer to me was chemotherapy, radiotherapy and a 73 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,360 very, very, very big surgery, which was going to go from here 74 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:06,200 all the way through the side of my body and doing what I do. 75 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,560 I was going to be unable to do my job. 76 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,280 And I've been doing this job since I was 15 years old. 77 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:16,760 So I don't know anything else. Basically, this is this is not a 78 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:22,280 lie and I love it. So I had to make the decision 79 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,680 of, you know what I want to do. So I walked in and I sort of 80 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,640 said I don't want to do chemo. I didn't want to do chemo and I 81 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,880 didn't want to do radio and I definitely didn't want to have 82 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,800 my body cut out because I wasn't going to be able to train again. 83 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,800 So look, I looked into, I looked into this carnival thing 84 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,120 probably after, after the first cancer, I thought I'll look into 85 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,040 it because I thought I've, I've read and seen that, you know, 86 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,720 this carnival ketogenic lifestyle is, is really good for 87 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,080 like battling cancer. And I start, look, I started it 88 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,600 and I was just a bit iffy. You know, when a lot of people 89 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,520 start carnival, it's, it's hard because you're used to eating 90 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,080 such a large amount of different foods. 91 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,760 And when you're in the fitness industry, you know, you're told 92 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,320 if without carbohydrates, you're unable to, you know, do this 93 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,240 cardio thing. And, and my studio is cardio 94 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,000 based. I teach spin class and I teach 95 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,480 pump classes. I teach three to four classes a 96 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 day. And I'm in the gym and like I'm 97 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:35,960 doing PTS and I thought, how am I ever going to survive doing 98 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,880 this without any carbohydrates? So I thought, you know what, 99 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,800 I'll do keto. I did keto for a while. 100 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,480 I, I did fine because I'll, and then I thought, I'll do keto and 101 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,200 I'll pump in a lot of fruit. So still I was getting a lot of 102 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:55,280 sugar in not knowing that because finally I didn't really 103 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:56,960 look into cancer even after the first one. 104 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,600 I just thought, oh, it's gone, it's gone. 105 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,040 I'm fine, let's keep going. So when the second one hit, I 106 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,040 was like, Oh, I better study a little bit about this cancer 107 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,000 thing and found that, you know, cancer is fed by sugar. 108 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,600 Yeah, sugar is sugar is in fruit. 109 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,440 And I was eating a whole heap of fruit right then. 110 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,200 So I then looked into this kind of, I found Doctor Anthony 111 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,600 Chafee and I, I looked into this carnival thing like pretty, 112 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,560 pretty intensively. And I thought, all right, I'll 113 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,800 start this, this carnival keto diet thing. 114 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,720 So I did that. And then when they said that it 115 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,600 was in my lymph nodes, I really took it seriously. 116 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:50,400 I I just went lying. So I went lying and the doctor 117 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,520 said that I was absolutely crazy. 118 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:58,040 And I were like, you're going to die, you're going to die. 119 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,320 We're going to give you 4 to 6 months and you were going to die 120 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,520 if you decide to do this, you're crazy. 121 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,920 And yeah, actually going to die. And I was like, you know what, 122 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,440 I'd rather die than not be able to to train because that's all I 123 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,960 know. And I've got my little community 124 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,520 and like, I just didn't want to lose that. 125 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:26,480 So yeah, it's like, it's either like it was like blink your eyes 126 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,040 and you've got nothing that you've built all your life. 127 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,440 So yeah, I wasn't willing to take that as an answer. 128 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:36,600 I said, look, what's the worst that can happen? 129 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,960 It could get worse and then we could reconsider. 130 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,840 There's always a chance to sit down and just rethink the 131 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,440 situation. So I went off on my merry way. 132 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:51,240 I bought some steak and I just ate steak and salt for like 6 133 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,720 months. We had a PET scan and it was, it 134 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,600 was positive because the cancer, the cancer was getting smaller. 135 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,920 And then and then I think there's like 8 months in, eight 136 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,880 months in, there was no cancer in my body. 137 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,000 Good. Wonderful. 138 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Yeah, I thought, wow, you know, I've done this, you know, and 139 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,720 had a whole team of oncologists sitting there asking me, what 140 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,200 are you doing? What's going on? 141 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,880 I was gonna do this. And I I sat there and told them 142 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,240 what I was doing. And they were like, Nah, 143 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,960 impossible, not accepting. Anything. 144 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Yeah. No, it doesn't work. 145 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,560 Tell us what you're doing. And I was like, I'm eating meat 146 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:42,560 and salt. And then I just started adding 147 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:45,200 butter because I was having a hard time going to the toilet as 148 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,400 most carnivals all night. Yeah. 149 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,520 That you you have that that problem if you don't have enough 150 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,920 fat because I wasn't eating enough fatty, fatty meat. 151 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:01,440 Yeah, so I added some butter in and and I was, I was good to go. 152 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,720 And I stayed Lion for a very long time, probably about a year 153 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,560 and a half. My PET scans kept coming up 154 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:16,880 00000 So you know, the oncology team was shocked. 155 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,440 They'd given me some sort of tablet to take every day. 156 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,560 I said I was taking it but I'm actually not and I still not. 157 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,480 What was that? What tablet was that there? 158 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:33,800 It's amoxifen which is estrogen blocker because they said that 159 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:39,280 my cancer was led by estrogen. Maybe, I don't know but I feel 160 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,480 like it was fed by sugar to be honest from what I can. 161 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:45,880 I wouldn't be surprised. I don't understand the chemical 162 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,560 contents of tamoxifen, but yeah, but the PET scan, certainly they 163 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:57,400 have to give you Fluorodex glucose, some kind of. 164 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,240 Yes. So when I did my first PET scan, 165 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,640 I was like, what are you guys injecting into my body? 166 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,520 And they were like glucose. I said, oh, isn't that 167 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,840 interesting? That's what I said, isn't that 168 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,520 interesting that you're injecting glucose so that you 169 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,680 can see cancer? Does that mean it isn't exactly 170 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:15,440 what I said? Does that mean that the cancer 171 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,040 is fed by sugar? And they said. 172 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:26,920 The girl that was putting the injection in nodded her head and 173 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,840 didn't say a word. And I said I've got it. 174 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,920 I understand what you're saying to me. 175 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,600 So I'm correct in saying cancer is fed by sugar. 176 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,560 Why the hell are you telling us to eat bread and grains and and 177 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:47,160 sugary And like you get like I, I noticed when when I was having 178 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,440 my PET scan, there was a few ladies getting some chemotherapy 179 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,960 done in the same room because it was the cancer, the cancer ward. 180 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,800 And right after they get the chemotherapy, do you know what 181 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,280 they give them? Biscuits. 182 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,680 Cookies, biscuits. Yes, because I've had 183 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,920 immunotherapy and they offered me you that right afterwards, 184 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,280 some juice, some fruit juice and something. 185 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,120 Sweet biscuits, Yes. And I was horrified because 186 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,360 like, what are you doing? You're like, you're actually 187 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:21,400 poisoning. Poisoning somebody and then 188 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,600 feeding him something else to grow the cancer again, like 189 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,040 where are we going with this? Like I just, and it, you know, 190 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,160 it, it aggravated me to the point where I thought like I'm 191 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,880 asking myself what's going on with this health system? 192 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,960 Like where are we going? Like I'm I'm crazy for doing 193 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,880 carnivore, but they're not crazy for feeding the cooker. 194 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Like where do where do we stand with them? 195 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,240 Insanity. It's just crazy. 196 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,840 It's so illogical. It just when, when are they 197 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,480 going to put one and one together and make 2? 198 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,680 It's it's so simple. It's right in front of them. 199 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,240 And also, they're doctors. They're the smartest people in 200 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,920 the world, apparently on the planet, right? 201 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:07,600 Supposedly, yeah. So we're like, we're, where are 202 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,600 we going with this whole cancer situation? 203 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,800 You know, and I continuously, because I'm still in the system, 204 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,000 Obviously I'm only 2 1/2 years in. 205 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,040 So the other day I had a PET scan and look, I haven't got the 206 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,200 results yet, but I'm pretty sure they're going to be fine. 207 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,320 And I've got a I've got ACT coming up and, you know, because 208 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,640 it's, it's coming up to 2 1/2 years and I've sort of pushed it 209 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,000 out a bit because I feel really good. 210 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,760 So I didn't really want to go into the hospital, but they've 211 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,200 really buckled down and said, you know, you need to get this 212 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,440 done. So we know what's going on. 213 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,760 And, you know, I probably do want to know that I'm still 214 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,760 good. But yeah, same thing. 215 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,880 You know, I'm sitting in the waiting room and they're eating 216 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:52,000 cookies. And it's just it, you know, and 217 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,000 there's a lot of girls there that, you know, it started off 218 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,320 with me. Some are still around, others 219 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,680 are gone. No hair on their heads. 220 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:01,040 Oh. Dear. 221 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,880 I almost feel guilty walking in there, you know, like, yeah, 222 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,840 yeah. Blasting my mom blocks and, you 223 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,160 know, and looking as as fitted, as fitted as anything, you know, 224 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,000 and yes. Yes, very healthy. 225 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,600 I literally I feel so guilty sometimes. 226 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,920 Yeah, but you did not take chemotherapy or radiation 227 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,040 treatment? I said no to everything. 228 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,720 But you dodged that bullet because that would get that 229 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,560 kills your immune system. I had the immunotherapy and 230 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,080 spent a year having ulcerative colitis from which I I 231 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,320 contracted C diff and then I got lichen sclerosis which gives you 232 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,080 sores in your mouth and in your vaginal area. 233 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,200 And. Just continuous open bleeding 234 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:53,040 sores and and big bubbles in, in, in my mouth blisters. 235 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,320 It's kind of like herpes, but it's not the same as herpes. 236 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,160 But it's an autoimmunity because those treatments kill all your 237 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,080 immune cells. So you have to try to build from 238 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,120 within. And here you are suffering from 239 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,320 cancer, having had a surgery. So your body is broken down but 240 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,080 but then they give you chemotherapy supposedly to help 241 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,400 you and it's killing every healthy cell inside just carpet 242 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,200 bombing you. It's the whole world of cancer 243 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,240 treatment is just insane to me. Yeah, look, I agree with you 244 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,520 because every time I walk into that waiting room and and you, 245 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,000 as you know, you're a cancer patient, everybody in there has 246 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,480 cancer. And yes, I look around and I'm 247 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:45,240 looking fresh, like I'm walking in their thread and I look 248 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,040 around and I, I almost feel guilty, like just looking around 249 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,680 going, Oh my God, they are killing these people and they 250 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,480 have no idea that there's another way to this. 251 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,680 Yes, yes, yes, another way. They made me feel so guilty for 252 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,560 saying no. So guilty. 253 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,480 They were like you're crazy. They put, they actually put me 254 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:14,280 in the mental ward for like 2 days because they gave me a 255 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,240 tablet called tamoxifen or I don't know what it was. 256 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,880 It was something to stop my estrogen altogether and it drove 257 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,920 me absolutely crazy. I ended up getting lost in a car 258 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,920 park. Somebody found me and took me to 259 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,080 the hospital and then. They put yeah. 260 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,640 They put me in the mental ward. Yeah. 261 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,520 Because I couldn't find. Yeah, look, I couldn't find my 262 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,560 car. And I was like, I was lost. 263 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,160 Something happened. It didn't agree with me. 264 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,960 My brain went bananas. And yeah, I ended up there for 265 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,320 like a day. And I I I was like, this is not 266 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,120 me. This is this. 267 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,000 This is this tablet that you've given me. 268 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,359 It was like, it was horrifying. They created that situation for 269 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,720 you. Yes. 270 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,680 And then all of us started. Now we're apologetic. 271 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,440 Oh my God, we shouldn't have given you that one. 272 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,839 We should have given you this 1A. 273 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,520 Little late. Oh, and that one was what was 274 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,200 the other one? So the other one was tamoxifen, 275 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,960 so it wasn't a strong. So I started taking that and 276 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:25,880 then I felt like I just didn't feel myself, you know? 277 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,920 And then, yeah, I did some research. 278 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,520 That's that's when I felt like I need to just do some research. 279 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,200 And that's exactly when I started the the The Lion Diet. 280 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,720 And did I find it hard? Yes. 281 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,480 Oh gosh gosh. Do you include fat intentionally 282 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,560 or are you just eating a fatty meat diet? 283 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,800 No, I actually now include butter in everything, everything 284 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,880 I eat because there was a there was a stage there when I got 285 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,120 stuck. I just couldn't go to the 286 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:02,400 toilet. And yeah, then I started reading 287 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,960 a little bit more and then I thought, OK, I've got to put 288 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,040 butter in. And then I put butter in. 289 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,800 And most carnivals will know this, but when you put butter 290 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,600 in, then you go to the toilet and you can't stop for a while. 291 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,480 Yeah, it's, it's crazy. It's in catch 22. 292 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,840 Do you, does your oncologist test your hormonal levels? 293 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,160 Because mine did. And I got to see that what I was 294 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,760 deficient in because I had a hysterectomy back when I was in 295 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,320 my 30s, just 40 years ago. So tell me, did did they do 296 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,480 that? Did they track your hormonal 297 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:40,080 balance as a carnivore? No they haven't, but I have 298 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:45,280 tracked it myself so my my my GP is also a carnivore. 299 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,880 Oh. Wonderful. 300 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,760 Yeah, it's fantastic because luckily you're he was keto and 301 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,720 he knew he's actually the one that like, I was in hospital and 302 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,400 he said to me, Miss, you probably want to look into this 303 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,720 carnivore diet. And I was like, isn't that the 304 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,200 one where they just eat meat? How am I going to go toilet? 305 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,200 How am I going to train? You know, he's like, just try 306 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,080 it. You've got nothing to lose. 307 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,040 You've got everything to gain. Yeah. 308 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,000 He's like business is at worst. Don't cook yourself. 309 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,640 You love your life. Try it. 310 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,840 And I thank God for him almost every single day, you know? 311 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,040 Yeah, definitely. Yeah. 312 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,000 He's still in my life. And he's like, he's one of my 313 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,760 best friends now because I I believe that if it wasn't for 314 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,280 him, I probably would wouldn't have looked at the carnivore 315 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,840 diet. I wouldn't have gone down the 316 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,600 road. I'm going down and my clients 317 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,000 are now on Carnivore and like everybody's driving around me 318 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,160 and it's, it's amazing. It's like we've all been blessed 319 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,480 with this thing that we didn't know, you know? 320 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,440 In your lives back. It's so so. 321 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,360 Affirming and positive and it's just wonderful. 322 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,760 Everybody looking great, feeling great, you know, their skins are 323 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,760 glowing. We're all in our like 40 plus at 324 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,920 my studio. Everybody we, we range from 40 325 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:20,120 to like 66. I think our oldest is we train 326 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:24,080 like absolute base and like we put, we get young ones in every 327 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,720 now and then. We put them to shame, you know, 328 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,080 and even there in all of us like and you see us and we're all 329 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:37,120 like built muscular machines, you know, it's just it is 330 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,320 actually a game changer. That's wonderful. 331 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:43,880 That's a blissful and I I I can feel that energy. 332 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:50,080 That's that's so great. How I understand that you're 333 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,600 training to be a a carnivore diet consultant. 334 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:58,320 How are you introducing the concept to your current 335 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,920 clientele? To be honest with you, I, I had 336 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,000 let them know that this is what I'm doing and they watched my 337 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,720 body change from look, my body wasn't bad, but it was like it 338 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,800 was, I was fixed and it was, but it wasn't muscular and lean like 339 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,920 it is now. So they watched it transition, 340 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,840 you know, and mostly the, the women, because obviously, you 341 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,480 know, after 40 you start losing your period, things start going, 342 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,720 you know, you get sucked and I was getting better. 343 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,240 And the girls that have been with me for like over 1520 years 344 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,960 are like, what the hell are you doing? 345 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,400 Because we want to do it. So I, I didn't, I didn't even 346 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,520 have to force them into it. They were like, I want to look 347 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,600 good, I want to feel good, I want to look like you. 348 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:55,360 So they just come on board. Started, started just keto and 349 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,800 then from keto. Now most of them are carnivore. 350 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,080 Good. That's that's great. 351 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,600 Wow. We had had a, a guy on a few 352 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:12,880 months ago who has he's AI think he's a nuclear physicist and he 353 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,240 developed a theory that someone else had come up with, but he's 354 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,440 been developing it. He's doing all kinds of research 355 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,240 and working on a a scientific paper and a book. 356 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:29,800 And he's the theory is that cancer is not caused buy toxins 357 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,080 in your body so much as it is there to help prevent those 358 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,440 toxins and encapsulate them and keep them from spreading in your 359 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,320 body. So that he calls it the cancer 360 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,440 sequestration theory. So it's there. 361 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,480 If you got cancer, it means you're somehow being exposed to 362 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,280 toxins, whether it's dietary or environmental, and that those 363 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,640 are coming in and, and cancer wakes up and says, uh oh, I have 364 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,360 a job to do. And then it goes and it 365 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:03,840 encapsulates all that and gives you an ovarian tumor or a tumor 366 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,480 in your breasts or your, your lymph nodes. 367 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,080 And I, I really like that theory because it, it, it means that 368 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,200 cancer is there is a warning sign. 369 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,040 It's a a red flag and you can't get better like the other 370 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,360 patients you've been familiar with unless you change the 371 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,240 situation. And to get rid of those toxins 372 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,040 and stop causing cancer to do its job, you have to put it out 373 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,560 of a job. You have to give it the sack. 374 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,800 Just get it out of there. So what do you think about that 375 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,320 idea? I actually think he could. 376 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,120 He could be right there because they say mammograms, once you 377 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:48,320 squeeze it, you can break it and then it'll then it'll spread 378 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,440 and. Spread then. 379 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,280 I hate that idea. Scary. 380 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Yeah. So like, like I said to you 381 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,200 earlier before we started recording, I'm actually due for 382 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,160 mammogram tomorrow and I've said I, I, I don't want to get that 383 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,680 done again. None. 384 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,680 No, I'm just going to get the CT scan. 385 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,800 I had a PET scan done last week. But I actually believe that that 386 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:17,200 may may be true because it could be, it could be a a capsulating 387 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,640 and it's it. And then when you squeeze it and 388 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,760 press it, you could actually break it and then it then it 389 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,280 will spread. Yeah, yeah. 390 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Because that that I, I fully believe that too. 391 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,840 But I also, I also very much believe in Thomas, Thomas 392 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,880 Siegfried, I think his name is. He said that cancer, cancer is a 393 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,000 metabolic disease. And from, from my experience in 394 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,400 life, being a bodybuilder nearly all my life, you know, there's 395 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:52,240 been all these, you know, protein powders and protein bars 396 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,120 and all this sort of stuff. And then I didn't look at that. 397 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:56,400 I didn't look at the ingredients. 398 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,800 I was younger and whatever. And, and I just thought they 399 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,560 were good for you. But then when you look at the 400 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,160 ingredients list in those things, what the hell are you 401 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,440 putting in your body? Yes, yeah. 402 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,280 Like these things are got names this long and they're like man 403 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,200 made. What? 404 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,480 What are they? What's the function and what's 405 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,600 their impact on your body? We don't. 406 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,680 Know yeah, what do they do? Are they poisonous? 407 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,040 Like do they give you cancer? Like who knows what the answer 408 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,600 is? But now not only these things 409 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,600 are not only in protein powders, they're in like packaged foods. 410 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,360 They're in everything like. Anything with a label on it had 411 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,240 probably has some form of a preservative or a emulsifier or 412 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,680 stabilizer, and they're all chemicals from the laboratory, 413 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,760 yeah. And you know what? 414 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,240 Absolutely madness. And since I have become like a 415 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:54,240 carnival, I feel so amazing. Like I don't feel sluggish, I 416 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,400 don't feel crazy. Like I just feel like I'm alive 417 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,040 again. My body is thriving and you 418 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,640 know, I have a lot of people treating me. 419 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,360 Oh, how do you do it? Don't you get bored and whatever 420 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:10,000 And I'm like, I just can't wait to sit down and eat like 3 421 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,160 steaks. Yes, yeah. 422 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,200 Whole Foods. That's what I crave. 423 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,640 A steak every day. And it's driving my husband nuts 424 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,200 because he'll eat chicken and pork and whatnot. 425 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,440 Yeah, No, no. And sausages. 426 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,880 And I'm like, no, I just want a steak. 427 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,640 Same, same. I'm just like, give me a rib eye 428 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,640 and I'm happy, you know? Crave it? 429 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,680 Yeah, Actually, that's hungry. Yeah. 430 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,720 Steak. Where is it? 431 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,120 Let me find it. Yeah. 432 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:38,160 And so like I've been in, I've just got back from Europe. 433 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,680 I was in Europe for five weeks with my partner and obviously 434 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,000 I'm in Europe and I thought, you know what, I want to try a 435 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,040 little bit of this and I'll try try a little bit of that. 436 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,840 And the meat there is like it's not great. 437 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,560 No, you know, we think it is in the states of these. 438 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,440 We think they're they have better quality. 439 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,000 I'm in Australia, so I'm absolutely blessed. 440 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:08,640 When you eat Australian beef, yeah, it look, nothing tops it. 441 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,200 Like I've travelled the world and I'm very, very blessed. 442 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,640 But coming back home, I just couldn't wait to get back on the 443 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,800 lion diet. You know, like let's get back to 444 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,320 the lion. You're normal. 445 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,440 Again, on a, we went on a vacation, did that too, and we 446 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,960 went to Europe and it happened there was a couple years ago. 447 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,160 But yeah, I really love it. So what? 448 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,800 What do you eat on a on a regular basis? 449 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,160 What's your diet like? Is it just meat and salt? 450 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:44,400 Look, I eat once a day. I eat about almost a kilo of 451 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,600 meat almost. And butter I'll always, I cook. 452 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,960 I cook when I'm eating butter and then I put butter on top of 453 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,360 it and sometimes I'll have yoghurt with it, depending on 454 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,680 depending on how I'm feeling. But that's basically it to be 455 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,360 honest. Wow, that's great. 456 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,440 I did. I wanted to go back a little bit 457 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,560 and ask you when you were younger, did you have a history 458 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,640 of of period related menstrual related pain? 459 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,240 Because. I had that too, endometriosis 460 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,360 and I had fibroids in my breasts and on my uterus and had to have 461 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,240 a hysterectomy at a young age. So you you did have that. 462 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,080 So you probably had endometriosis. 463 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,880 Were you ever given a diagnosis or. 464 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,400 PCO I did have, yes, I did have endometriosis. 465 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,040 I did. I did have all those problems 466 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600 and back in the day they put you on the pill. 467 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,880 Yeah, I was put on the pill and Depo Provera and they tell you 468 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,160 it's precancerous. Of course. 469 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,960 And then it happens. And then it happens, you know, 470 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:57,240 and for me, when I was told that I can't like firstly, when, when 471 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,320 I, when I had the first thing, like I was like, what, What do 472 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,840 you mean? You found cancer in my ovary? 473 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,040 And they were like, we, we've cut out your ovary, like the 474 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,720 whole thing. And I'm like, Oh my God, because 475 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,680 I was. Done too. 476 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680 And I said to them, please tell me you didn't cut both of them 477 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,920 out because I still want to be like, because there's a lot of 478 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,880 hormones that can get produced from your, your ovaries. 479 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,360 It would be nice to have some hormones. 480 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,800 I actually didn't want to get old real fast. 481 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,040 And I know that's what it does because, you know, I'm 482 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,560 interested in anyway, they were like, no, we've kept 1, you 483 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,720 know, and I was already like devastated that they pulled out 484 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,120 one. But anyway, there was cancer on 485 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,640 the net. OK, fine. 486 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,640 So now I'm cancer free and, and continuing on with life and just 487 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,800 continuing on with like normal protein powders and, you know, 488 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,720 bodybuilding shakes and rice and this and this and that and then 489 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:05,760 the lump, you know, and I was, I was in la, la land with the lump 490 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,440 because I thought, Nah, it's not cancer. 491 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,440 No way. And then it's cancer and it's 492 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,400 stage and it's stage 3. Oh really? 493 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,760 And I was like, yes, 12, yeah. And it's stage 3. 494 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,200 And I was like, Oh my God. Then we go in, they cut out the 495 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,760 lump. They cut out the lump. 496 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,440 They take out three nodes. I go back and see them. 497 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,280 They're like before I went in, they were like, oh, we don't 498 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,240 think it's in your nose. We think it's just the, the 499 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,680 lump. We'll get the lump out. 500 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,000 You know they take out the nodes and then like your all three 501 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:44,600 nodes are full of cancer. Oh my gosh, just on one side did 502 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,360 did they didn't check the other side. 503 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,760 They didn't check the other. There's no activity there. 504 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,360 Yeah. Good, good, good. 505 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,880 Because that's just so frightening. 506 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,040 That's just so scary. And then, yeah, then the PET 507 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,720 scan happens and yeah, it's all on the right side and whatever. 508 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,680 And then, then I had to make the decision and I made the call and 509 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,840 I just thought, you know what? In my head. 510 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,680 And it's, and it's, it's my call. 511 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040 And I don't say it for everybody, not everybody should. 512 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:18,000 But I I just thought I can't live my life without doing what 513 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,600 I do. Yeah. 514 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,800 You know, I travel when I train. That's what I do. 515 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,280 And if I don't have function on my right side, yeah. 516 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,880 What am I? What am I going to do with my 517 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,080 life? Am I going to sit at home and 518 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,560 collect a pension and and do nothing? 519 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,200 Yeah. I, I can't in my head even think 520 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,600 about that. Even at 52, they're like, oh, 521 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,000 you're 50, you're 51 years old. You know, you, you can look into 522 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,280 doing new things. And I'm like, I don't want to. 523 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,960 I love what I do. Like why should I have to? 524 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,320 Yeah, I totally get that. Yeah. 525 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,400 And it's such a shame that that's the expectation is that 526 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,120 you're just going to have to shift your gears and change your 527 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160 life. And well, I'm so happy for you 528 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,480 that you were able to continue to do what you do and to help 529 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,160 other people while you're at it, which is a. 530 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,520 Wonderful thing, like whenever somebody asks me to build 531 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,080 podcast, podcast or whatever, I'm I'm in because I want people 532 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,560 to know that there is an alternative. 533 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,240 You know, you don't have to chop yourself up. 534 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,640 There is that alternative. Give it a go. 535 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,240 You've got time. A lot of people think, Oh my 536 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,760 God, I've got no time. I'm going to die, I'm going to 537 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,520 die, I'm going to die. I've got to do it. 538 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,560 You have got time. Just try and and see how you go. 539 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,960 You know and you never know, but just go the other way. 540 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,320 There, there are some people who are too far gone though, when 541 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,040 cancer is, is too, too far distributed in their body. 542 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,960 There's there's a, a movie called Healing Humanity that was 543 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,200 created by some carnivores. And one of the stories follows a 544 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,360 man who had cancer when he started and he was told he had 545 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,680 three months to live. He bought himself 18 months with 546 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,400 carnivore, but he really was really engulfed in cancer. 547 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:13,840 So he, there was not 100% hope for him, but he yeah, yeah. 18, 548 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,040 many more months. 16 yeah. 15 more months. 15 more months, 549 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,720 yeah, yeah. Had two kids and he got time to 550 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,760 be with them and it very sad story, but it improved his 551 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,320 quality of life tremendously. But he caught it too late. 552 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,240 So I think that the earlier you can start eating this way, the 553 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,600 less you can be become a victim as it were. 554 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,480 Yeah, and you know what? I see my clients thriving. 555 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,600 They're they're not sick. They weren't sick to start with, 556 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,880 but right now they're thriving, you know, thriving carnivores. 557 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,360 And, and they look incredible. They look, you know, they look 8 558 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:59,160 to 10 years younger walking around fit strong, you know, and 559 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,880 people are always commenting like, you know, they come into 560 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,040 my studio and they see all these fit, stronger, older people, you 561 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,040 know, like what is going on in here. 562 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,199 Yeah, well, that's me. I'm 75 and I love enjoying the 563 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,000 prime of my life. I have two grandchildren under 564 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,199 the age of 11 that the younger one is 4. 565 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,480 And here I and I are on the on the floor all the time, playing 566 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,159 with the little, little cars and playing. 567 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,400 Games. And and doing all kinds of 568 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,840 activities together because. I, that's what. 569 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,920 I want to be, I want to be there. 570 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,080 I don't want to be grandma who sits on on the on the sofa and 571 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,040 and sews something that's not me. 572 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,000 I want to be active and be with them. 573 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,080 I love that. I love that. 574 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,560 That's that's what I want to see from my clients, too. 575 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,560 I love it. I love it, yeah. 576 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,560 Yeah, with the energy level way up there and, and not to worry 577 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,520 about it and, and to be able to stand up without holding on to 578 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,679 anything and to be able to lift him. 579 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,200 He's what, a whole 37 lbs. I don't know what that is in in 580 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,600 kilograms, but to lift him up if I have to so. 581 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,960 Probably see if that's so. It's all about that's life. 582 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,920 It's one, it's life. You know, and, and, and my, my 583 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,920 favorite line is carnival is life. 584 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,480 Carnivore is life. Yes, I use it every day. 585 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,800 I use it on my Instagram. I use it all the time. 586 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,840 Carnival is absolutely life and I've seen it change so many 587 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,240 lives. That is definitely the message 588 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,720 we got to get out there. It really is life. 589 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,880 Love it. It's well so now you've settled 590 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,680 into being a carnivore and happy and content. 591 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,840 It's wonderful. So happy. 592 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,560 Yeah. So happy. 593 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,120 So fit, so strong. Never looks so good. 594 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,240 You know, people look twice on a walk. 595 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,560 Parkfield. What's that? 596 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,960 So glad you didn't do the chemo and radiation because that gives 597 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:08,200 you side effect. I had about 8 immunotherapy 598 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,000 treatments and that's supposed to be different from chemo 599 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,280 because it doesn't kill every cell. 600 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,640 It only looks for cancer cells and kills those cancer cells. 601 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,800 Well, I've had a scan before. I had a PET scan and there was 602 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,520 no cancer in my body, but the oncologist recommended it anyway 603 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,360 as a preventative measure and he said, oh, you won't have any 604 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,480 issues. Well, hell yeah. 605 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,840 I had issues and I, I had to stop it because I got ulcer 606 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,400 colitis. It was just awful. 607 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,480 And then I got the C diff because my, my immunity was slow 608 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,440 and that meant I had a three courses of antibiotics and just 609 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,600 as many courses of, of steroids and it was just ridiculous and 610 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,400 bleeding and mucus and all kinds of awful things. 611 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,840 And then I got that lichen sclerosis. 612 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,640 I did I tell you that while we were on recording. 613 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,600 Then I got I got these sores in my mouth and in my. 614 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,200 Vaginal area, just like every once in a while. 615 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,560 Maybe you'll get a little campus sore inside your mouth. 616 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,800 This was constant, always. It was always there on both 617 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:17,960 sides of my gum and it I needed to have oral applications of 618 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,240 steroids. So I got this mouth rinse 619 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:23,760 mouthwash that I had to, to swish through my mouth and then 620 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,840 drink a little bit of it so some of them could go down and help 621 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,240 my vaginal area. And there really is nothing that 622 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:35,720 for the vaginal area except give you an, an anti inflammation 623 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,360 cream, which didn't do a damn bit of good. 624 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:43,160 So it it the treatment or treatments are worse? 625 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,160 Then the symptoms. Have because I had no cancer 626 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,680 symptoms so. I'm sorry that you had to go 627 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,720 through that, but looked, I was offered that as well. 628 00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:55,840 I just said no to everything. Good for you, good for you. 629 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,880 Yeah, I just said no. I I just thought, you know what? 630 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,000 I'm going to give this a good hard crack. 631 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,440 Mm hmm. If it works, it works. 632 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,800 If I die, I die, you know. But it worked. 633 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,960 It worked. It it's better than being broken 634 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,680 down further by, by the treatment itself. 635 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,320 And I don't know, I think it's just evil. 636 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,840 It's medieval like syphilis patients mercury. 637 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,360 It's it's a 5050 chance they're going to survive the treatment. 638 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,400 That's what they. Used to do, yeah. 639 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,760 It's yeah. And you know what meats is, is 640 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,640 the best medicine, I think. Oh yeah, I agree with you, of 641 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,280 course it actually. Is me is the best medicine. 642 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,960 I say to everyone, you know, my dad, my dad before me had 643 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,680 pancreatic cancer. My brother is now fighting 644 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,800 cancer as well. It's like 3 and 4 now and all 645 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,240 carnies now, all of us. Are they? 646 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:55,960 Yes. Yep, good. 647 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,280 Yep, all carnies. How are they doing? 648 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,480 How are they doing? They're doing. 649 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,560 Well, that is November. He will be in remission. 650 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:08,240 That's it finished for him. Look, my brother is my brother's 651 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,680 cancer is it wasn't as it wasn't as bad as mine. 652 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,880 But like the the operation for mouth cancer is is horrific. 653 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,800 Oh, Oh my gosh. Oh, so the poor bugger is really 654 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,920 struggling and look, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. 655 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,640 So if you are a smoker, we've that up ASAP. 656 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,920 Oh. Dear Yeah, that's that's a hard 657 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,720 addiction to beat. That's very difficult to beat. 658 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,760 Look, he's not a smoker, He's obviously not a smoker anymore, 659 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,240 but it's taken, you know, this warning for him to stop. 660 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,480 And it's I'm just saying out there, if someone's watching and 661 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,960 you're a smoker, just stop. You know, yeah, yeah. 662 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:03,040 Yeah, it's a scary, it's a scary, scary, scary big 663 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,320 operation. And it's it's, it's never 664 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,640 ending. So yeah, he's he's also carny, 665 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,400 but like we've we have to mash his food and, you know, it's 666 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,200 just hard. It's very hard. 667 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,560 But he's also cancer free right now, so all three of us are 668 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,160 cancer free. Good. 669 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:26,280 And the the message is we're all cancer free, no treatments and 670 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:34,040 thriving. Well, if you were to meet 671 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,320 someone who had cancer, would you tell them to go into 672 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,720 carnivore right away? What would you? 673 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,160 Do 100%. One of one of my very close 674 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,720 friends a week ago was diagnosed with cancer. 675 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:53,040 And yeah, she's, I think she's, she's at stage 40, dear. 676 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,560 It's moving to her brain. She just had brain surgery. 677 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,480 But look, she's, she's in high spirits and she's, she's lying 678 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,920 now and that's it, you know, so it. 679 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,440 Helps her. It was a glioblastoma that she 680 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,840 had. I have no idea but. 681 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,160 It's very, very The word is virulent. 682 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,640 It's very aggressive. Yeah, so it started, it actually 683 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,280 started in her breast and she's got some, some sort of shaving 684 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,280 in her liver and she had two spots in her brain and her brain 685 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,800 had to be operated on a week ago. 686 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,120 So look, she's in high spirits, which is what we need. 687 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:37,520 And she's now taking the carnival trip, you know, So I 688 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,240 can only keep you posted with that one. 689 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,240 I hope she she sees results very soon on that. 690 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:48,400 And so do I, yeah. It's insidious and you know, 691 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,200 when, when you as as you age, the, the, the question is not if 692 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,760 you're going to get cancer, it's when you're going to get cancer 693 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,840 because it's so prevalent and it's everybody gets type 2 694 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,760 diabetes. They get some form of heart 695 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,600 disease or or impediment and cancer is right there behind 696 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,960 keep, you know, keep. And let's just say it's because 697 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,720 of our diets, you know, especially in the Western world. 698 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,080 Yeah, yeah. And how easy to take care of 699 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,640 those issues. How? 700 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,720 Simple. It's so easy. 701 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,760 So easy. Sacrifice your your your 702 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,880 carbohydrate teddy bear and let go of that. 703 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,920 It's just that we are so sometimes conditioned or we're 704 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,800 so sugar addicted, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's the problem. 705 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,480 It's awful and it's so prevalent. 706 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,920 It's just really so prevalent. But I think once you start this, 707 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,560 like I've noticed with my clients, once you start it, it's 708 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,840 hard. And then and then you see and 709 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,560 feel a million times better. So you don't ever want to go 710 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,520 back. You sort of go back just because 711 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,760 you want to test the waters. But then you're like, oh, no, I 712 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,560 feel yuck. Yeah. 713 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,800 And I think it might be just give it a they give it a good 714 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,440 hard crack. They'll they'll love it. 715 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,680 Yes, yeah, yeah. And the more they do it, the, 716 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,480 the more acclimatize their body becomes. 717 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,840 It becomes fat adapted and it's easier and easier and the 718 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,800 cravings go away eventually. And the mirror, the mirror. 719 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,320 You look at yourself in the mirror and you're like, whoa, 720 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,400 yes. Yes. 721 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,160 That's, I mean, that's a. Long lady here. 722 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,280 Literally, that is the key. You know, the mirror is the key 723 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,280 because people really don't care about, sometimes they don't care 724 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,240 about like how they're feeling. They don't look at that. 725 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,000 You know, you look in the mirror and you're like, whoa, how have 726 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,920 I had backwards 10 years, you know? 727 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,880 Yes, yes. Reverse aging. 728 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,960 I love it. I love it. 729 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,040 It's great. Yeah. 730 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:51,320 I in my age group, 75 to 80, it's it's really tough because 731 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,000 everybody in their auntie has Parkinson's or they've got some 732 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,760 kind of condition and they're just, it's what, one 733 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,080 conversation about medication after the next. 734 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,880 And I don't want to participate in that. 735 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,560 No. Thank you. 736 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,400 Wait till they finish talking about how sick they are and tell 737 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,400 them how good I feel. And well, my mom, my mom is 738 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,560 testament to that. She's on and my dad, they're 739 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,480 both on zero medication. They look so good. 740 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,680 They train every day. Amazing, amazing. 741 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,680 My mom's been training all her, My mom's been training all her 742 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,000 life. That's why I'm a trainer, 743 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,640 because she made me train from when I was a kid, yes. 744 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,520 So she is my mom's thriving, you know, and she's always been 745 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:44,640 pretty much keto all her life. And she looks, she looks 1015 746 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,040 years younger than all her friends. 747 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,840 Wow. Well, so she's been low carbing 748 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,120 for quite some time. Forever, for as long as I can 749 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,560 remember. No kidding. 750 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,960 And and that your dad wasn't? My dad was there. 751 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,760 No. And my dad was a smoker and a 752 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,840 drinker and, you know. Oh yeah, my dad was the wild 753 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,800 card, wasn't it? Well, yeah, I was too. 754 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,120 All that. Fun stuff and. 755 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:17,280 Then the fun stuff I keep telling my my kids and my 756 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,440 grandkids, you know, the fun's going to end someday. 757 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,320 I'm going to have to buckle down. 758 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,320 Become. That's cool, that's true. 759 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,560 But. It's not that much of A 760 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,040 punishment when you can enjoy the rest of your life and and do 761 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,000 things like go on on on trips to Europe and stay there and enjoy 762 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000 the heck out of yourself. Right. 763 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,960 How is that like this is this is another thing like how is it a 764 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,120 punishment if you're just eating steak? 765 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,840 Yeah, I don't get it. You need to separate yourself 766 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:50,160 from food as a pleasure trap. It's really not necessary. 767 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,800 But we're so ingrained that that food is our entertainment and 768 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,160 our happiness and our pleasure. And we, we can't, it's very 769 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,240 personal because for a lot of people, especially those who get 770 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:05,720 have their, their mind impacted by carbohydrates, they, they 771 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,040 need that little rush to, to get them through their day, but then 772 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,560 it goes all downhill afterwards. So correct. 773 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:22,280 Well, I hope you've told us all, all that you, you want to tell 774 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,640 us about your journey. And it really is impressive. 775 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,760 And I'm so very happy for you, Mary. 776 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,240 I really am. I really feel that a few times 777 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:34,320 I've been sitting here and I'm almost on the verge of tears 778 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,200 because I can so much relate to it and it's it's just a 779 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,800 wonderful thing for you. Very happy for you. 780 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,280 For us, actually. So we're we're here to tell the 781 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,320 story. You know, I am proof that it's 782 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,440 over. I in fact, I had ACT scan just 783 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,560 last week and they make you drink that awful barium drink 784 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,480 with as has saccharin in it and some other artificial sweetener. 785 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,680 But I did it and I got a clean bill of health and it's fine. 786 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,640 Well, congratulations. Fantastic. 787 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,480 Thanks. Yeah, but I, I may tell them I 788 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,560 don't want to do that anymore unless they suspect something 789 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,480 because I'm not happy about the whole process like you are about 790 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,280 mammograms. I'm not happy about the CT scans 791 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:24,160 either. So yeah, OK, if people want to 792 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,520 get in touch with you and find out about your your fitness 793 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:33,080 studio and, and you do train people online so they can be 794 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,520 anywhere in the world and and get some advice from you, where 795 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,520 would they go to find you? Go on Instagram, She Wolf 796 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:47,040 coaching is our online is our online page. 797 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:54,640 Merita private is is my page, my private page and talk talk fit 798 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,760 is my studio page, but that's in Melbourne, Australia. 799 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,560 So I don't know whether or not you don't want to go to that 800 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,360 one. But the other two she wolf is is 801 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,240 our coaching page. So she you'll have it. 802 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,400 She wolf OK, She wolf coaching. Sorry, she Wolf. 803 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,560 She Wolf Coaching is the actual name of it. 804 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,080 Coaching OK, so that's where we'll find you on Instagram. 805 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,160 Very good. Yeah. 806 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,960 OK well, well, I really wish you all the best. 807 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,600 Continue. Down. 808 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,720 Thank you so much happiness. Thank you energy and all the 809 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,640 good things. Thank you so much. 810 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,360 For being with us and tending us. 811 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,400 Your story. You're welcome. 812 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,080 Thank you for having me. OK, bye. 813 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:45,280 Bye. Now if you get value from this 814 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,880 podcast, please hit subscribe, drop a like comment and share 815 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,480 this episode. 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