1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,840 Not being nutritionally satisfied, you're very confused 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,480 and you're hungry for something like you're hungry for 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,600 nutritional substance that is satisfying. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,160 And that's what carnivore finally introduced for me is 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,080 like to eat beef and taste and be satiated for the first time 6 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:27,840 and to understand like I could not take another bite And I am, 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,960 I'm so full of the protein. I'm so full of these healthy 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,280 fats that are like lining and nourishing my body, like lining 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,960 the mucosal layers and nourishing every cell in my 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,680 body. Like it a switch finally went 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,000 off that said, Hey, Sugar's not what you've been looking for 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,920 this whole time. Especially like every month I 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,520 would, I'd be like, I just need something. 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,280 I need something. I need something and I'm, I 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,360 would go to the grocery store looking for fudge or something 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,080 sugary sweet that I thought would meet this need that I 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,080 could tell my body was just craving something. 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,080 But it was fat that my body was craving. 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,000 And I could have never figured like I didn't figure that out on 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,560 my own. People had to tell me that that 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,480 fat was what I was craving. And especially every month when 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,560 my cycle would come along like I was craving fat and I didn't 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,200 ever know it. I think the one thing carnivore 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,880 gives you is just it gives you that freedom, that freedom, that 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,960 freedom around your food anymore. 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,600 You don't need to be fearful around your food anymore. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,520 And we are live. Welcome to another episode of 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,920 the Carnivore Evolution podcast. Today we welcome Amber Amber 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,240 group developing a poor relationship with food. 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,040 Along the way, she ran into a lot of health problems including 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,600 nausea, gout, migraines. She thought she had some sort of 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,440 endometriosis problem. She was on a mission to find out 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,960 what the problem was. She had a massive sugar 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,760 addiction as well. She came across Jordan and 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,160 Michaela Pearson podcasts. She decided to give this diet a 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,480 go and the rest is history. Amber, how are you? 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,520 Good. I'm glad to be here today. 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Thanks for having me. No problem at all. 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,880 So before we start talking everything about carnivore, give 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,560 us a little back story in you first of all. 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,440 A back story on me and my life. Yes. 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,280 So how would how would all how it all began? 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,840 How would all began leading into carnivore? 44 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:23,160 I was approaching 50 and I was in yet another health crisis. 45 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,680 A mysterious thing, no obvious answers and this time my leg was 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,280 my heel and ankle was hurting and PT couldn't figure out what 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,360 it was. It was months it did and I'd 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,240 seen it growing for years. So I was really discouraged and 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,160 just had dark days thinking like I have survived so many 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,960 different health challenges and now I'm another one as I was 51 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,120 trying to be healthy and I like fall in another pit. 52 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,640 So I was ripe to try a carnivore diet because I was just looking 53 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:01,560 for something extreme because my pain was extreme. 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,160 And that problem that I was currently in this is 2 years 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,240 ago, is my leg was being strangled. 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:19,600 I had had a hip surgery in 2019. So five years previous my I had 57 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,440 an adhesion where my IT band was a adhered to a muscle right 58 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,160 above my knee where they had strapped my knee so tight to 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,760 pull my hip out of joint 'cause I had hip reconstruction surgery 60 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:39,240 in 2019 and had no clue that slowly my leg was just being 61 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,160 strangled until my ankle is hurting and my heel is hurting 62 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,000 and my leg is swelling and then this. 63 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,080 I. I recognized it as pain at that 64 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,000 point, but it was a numbness coming up my calf, the front of 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:59,760 my calf, near my shin bone. And it was just a horrendous 66 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,360 nightmare because we could not figure out what was going on as 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,840 we were focusing on my heel and ankle. 68 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,040 So all the scans and ankles, we weren't even looking at the 69 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:16,800 right place, so I pardon. It's very odd that that your 70 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,000 doctors had no idea what the heck was going on. 71 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:23,600 It was so odd. I was at APT physical Therapist, 72 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,840 I had done 12 weeks and they asked for an extension, you 73 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,920 know, from my insurance. They couldn't figure out what 74 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,800 exercises to give me 'cause usually you can diagnose the 75 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,320 problem within two or three visits. 76 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,720 And they're like, these are the exercises, do these and you're 77 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,120 going to get better. But we just kept jumping around 78 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,840 trying this and that and this and that, and I had had every 79 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:47,280 scan and every nerve test and everything that could be done 80 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:54,480 and we didn't realize what was going on until it snapped free 81 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,200 after I had been on carnivore for two months. 82 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:03,000 I had I had known I was eating too much sugar and I was at my 83 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,200 heaviest weight yet, which was not helped because I was on the 84 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,240 couch with my leg propped up 75% of the day doing very little on 85 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,520 my leg, trying to just not walk as much knowing that my heel 86 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:22,600 hurt so badly. But that was when I had there 87 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,600 was a book someone had recommended and they said don't 88 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,320 read the book. It's like you can get the idea 89 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,360 someone recommended a book and said it's not worth the read, 90 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,160 like just listen to an interview of the author. 91 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,440 So I was welcomed into this world of YouTube education. 92 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,000 So just listening to people talk and learning about the concepts 93 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,280 as in a more relational way than a book. 94 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,680 So I and the interviewer was Jordan Peterson and I was like, 95 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,040 who is this man? He is so fascinating. 96 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,400 He talks as much as the person he's interviewing. 97 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,880 What's going on here? But I found what he was talking 98 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,520 about to be very interesting. And so I continued to listen to 99 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,320 him and he talked about his daughter and he talked about his 100 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,080 self and how their diet and their mental health had 101 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,920 improved. And I mean things that blew my 102 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,760 mind because I've never heard anyone say that that mental 103 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,400 health could be improved by your diet. 104 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,320 Even people who claim you know to eat add fruits and vegetables 105 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,440 don't say that it helps your mental health. 106 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,760 They'll say it makes your body healthy maybe, but it doesn't 107 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:36,040 prove it hadn't proved out to be helped me in that in those days. 108 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,160 So I was eager for a change. I had tried drastic diet changes 109 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:48,880 in the past when I when this three-year saga before I got 110 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,440 found hip surgery to fix the problem that was going on with 111 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,720 my hip. I had tried the, oh what's it 112 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,160 called, low FODMAP diet and I had, I had gotten rid of dairy 113 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:08,480 and gluten. I had, I was just, I was not 114 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,800 eating like my family already. I was already making my own 115 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,560 dinner. I was making their dinner. 116 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:18,040 So it wasn't too big of a jump for me to to think about trying 117 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,560 some crazy new diet. Even 1 summer after seeing a 118 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,400 nutritionist. I had juiced celery for three 119 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,160 months. She had told me to give my liver 120 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,120 a break and like don't eat any protein, maybe have one serving 121 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,880 of protein a week. Which interestingly like for a 122 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,640 while I felt like it was helping. 123 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,400 A Co worker at that time had said meat ground, like how do 124 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,000 you feel? Meat is so grounding to me. 125 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,760 And I was like, I don't know. I just feel lighter and buoyant. 126 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Like I'm when you're desperate, you'll try anything and you 127 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,800 don't always have the best thought processes and wisdom to 128 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,600 think through every through everything but it. 129 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,760 And I, I've always liked meat. So I didn't ever go vegan, but 130 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,080 juicing celery for three months and like limiting my protein to 131 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:20,400 like give my liver a break was a a a dietary low in my life. 132 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,800 It's amazing, isn't it? When you think about it, we we 133 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:25,880 think we're doing everything right. 134 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,680 We think when we think about the vegetables, we think about the 135 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,760 juice and everybody, everybody brainwashes. 136 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,159 This isn't into thinking that this is extremely healthy for 137 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:34,960 you. You're going to get all your 138 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,760 proper nutrition in this. And it's just like, and it's 139 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,559 unlike the train as well. A lot of people think I can eat 140 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,679 whatever I want. I can out train a bad diet. 141 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,120 But when these things, when they issue, when these issues arise 142 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,600 and they do arise, they get worse as they get old, as we get 143 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,280 older, nobody has a clue. And nobody, nobody addresses 144 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,520 what you're putting into your body because they'll say it has 145 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,840 nothing to do with that because you you have to be in a calorie 146 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,800 deficit. They'll focus too much on 147 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,120 insulin resistance. They'll they'll touch on like 148 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,520 your obesity problem is because you're eating too much. 149 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,040 But nobody talks about the root cause. 150 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,800 Nobody talks about the actual food we're consuming on a daily 151 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,200 basis. Well, she we're trying with the 152 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,440 juicing and unfortunately it it takes some time before the 153 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:24,840 impact of of diets takes effect. But even carnivore is is a 154 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,840 gamble because it's, it sounds to most people is yet another 155 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,600 fad diet. Let's try this now we've tried 156 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,480 celery. Let's try the meat. 157 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,520 So I think, yeah, sorry, I was going to, I was just going to 158 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,360 add to that, Victoria, I think what's important between 159 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,960 carnivore and the the standard diets is I've always said it's a 160 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,800 massive connection between the gut and the brain. 161 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,120 And what kind of ore does it rebuilds the the digestive 162 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,000 system, it gets a back function in the way it should be over 163 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,800 time. But The thing is, we have to 164 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,400 allow it to heal. If you've damaged your body. 165 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Yeah, if you if you damage your bodies, let's say you're in your 166 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,080 50s now and you've done that cons you you've done that 167 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,840 consistently for over 40 years. That's a lot of healing. 168 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,120 A lot of healing. That's not going to happen in 169 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,480 six months. You know, I mean, I mean, look 170 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,200 at Michaela Pearson's situation. It took her eight years, of 171 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,800 course. She decided to bring a vegetable 172 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,760 back into her life. Yeah, it's, you know what I 173 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,360 mean, 88 years of healing. I don't know why she's inside 174 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:24,400 that anyway. But that's but that's what I'm 175 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,600 saying that she just wanted to see what happens, but she 176 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,880 couldn't do that in the past because I had a such a major 177 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,080 reaction on the body. She. 178 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,200 Was she was very. Dangerous, huge reaction. 179 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,440 And I don't think people understand that. 180 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,040 They just think that this diet is just a quick fad. 181 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,640 It's a fix. But no, there's a lot, there's a 182 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,080 lot of damage there. And just listening to your 183 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,760 story, Amber, and it's not just your story. 184 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,200 We listen, there's so many people's stories on this podcast 185 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:49,800 and it's kind, it's just, it's just repetition, repetition, 186 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,480 repetition. A lot of people are finding out 187 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,680 that, oh, I did everything. I did everything the experts 188 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:57,880 told me. I did the vegetables, the juice, 189 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,520 and I followed their rules and time to give. 190 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:03,320 Carnivore a chance they have to try. 191 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:06,840 We have to, we have to find the solution ourselves, the 192 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,680 research. We have to be out and it isn't, 193 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:12,720 it isn't it frustrating that the people that we rely on for help, 194 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,080 they're actually making the situation worse. 195 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,040 We have to go out ourselves, go onto going onto the Internet and 196 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,440 look for this research ourselves. 197 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,040 I, I find that very, very sad personally. 198 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,560 Oh. Yes, let's. 199 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,840 Just. Change that. 200 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,640 What you just said reminded me. Over the first six months of 201 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,560 carnivore, I watched my legs just transform, especially this 202 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:39,440 one leg that was a little more swollen than the other 'cause 203 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,840 I'm focusing on these, you know, focusing on this body part as 204 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,360 it's healing and the muscle adhesion had released. 205 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,440 So every month I could see just another inch. 206 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,360 It was started at my ankle and it started at my above my knee. 207 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,040 And just every month up an inch, an inch, an inch, it would heal. 208 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,680 And just the edema was going away, which I didn't even 209 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:04,440 realize that I had this extra water weight and my muscle tone, 210 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,240 you could see just a little bit more and just more definition. 211 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,360 And my ankle and my knees looked like what they did when I was a 212 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:18,440 girl, like when when I was doing gymnastics and when I was out 213 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,880 running in the yard playing. And like I just saw this slow 214 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,920 transformation inch by inch. So I'm using my imagination, 215 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,600 like my gut is healing inch by inch. 216 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:36,200 And it's, it's a longer process. It's a long digestive tube, so I 217 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:42,840 just have to have patience as I am healing the other. 218 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,080 I don't know if you've ever done like a big remodeling project. 219 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,600 I've never like gutted a whole house. 220 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,240 We did. We gutted our bathroom down to 221 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,240 the studs. And if you're doing a big 222 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,880 overhaul project, you need a big dumpster. 223 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:03,400 That has been something that's helped me as I've been thinking 224 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,640 about all the healing that I need to do because I have a lot 225 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,920 of healing left to go in this carnivore journey after 50 years 226 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,200 of not taking care of my body and not eating healthy foods. 227 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,400 It's it's like a renovation project and you just have to get 228 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,760 out the junk. You've got to take out all the 229 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,360 junk, all the junk as you're putting in the new stuff and the 230 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,520 good stuff and the nutrition. So I have to have some pictures 231 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:37,080 like that in my mind when I am tempted to buy a bag of candy or 232 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,280 I'm tempted to go back to old ways. 233 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Like no, I'm in the middle of a renovation project here and. 234 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,560 So I think what you just said there makes perfect sense. 235 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:52,120 I think you have to be made aware of that situation, why 236 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,160 you're doing this in the 1st place. 237 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,960 Go back to your reason why, why are you doing kind of everybody 238 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,120 has a reason why we chose to do this diet. 239 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,120 You know what I mean? A lot of people are doing it 240 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,320 because of health reasons, health risks, reverse symptoms. 241 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,720 Like if you're, if, if you get to that situation where 242 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,960 potentially you do reverse your symptom, you need to ask 243 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,680 yourself bravery. You need to ask yourself this 244 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:19,000 simple question, Why would I go back to those foods again if 245 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,560 they were causing the problems And I'm fully healed now and I'm 246 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,200 on, I'm on this journey and I'm on the road to recovery. 247 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,320 It'd be ludicrous, absolutely ludicrous to stop and go back 248 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,400 the other way. I, I just don't get it. 249 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,240 This, these are the foods that are causing the problems. 250 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,000 You can't convince me that they're not causing the 251 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,400 problems. Why did you come with the 252 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,840 carnivore in the 1st place then? So when you do remove all these 253 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,440 plant toxins, the carbohydrates, the seed oils, all of a sudden 254 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,360 your body begins to heal. What's the problem? 255 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,240 Because we're giving our body the essential nutrients our body 256 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,480 requires. You know, I'm going, you're 257 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,560 missing out on no vitamins, no minerals. 258 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,360 As I see you're, you're getting everything your body needs in 259 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,600 meats. So what exactly are you missing 260 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,400 that one? If you are going to be adding 261 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,000 these foods, foods in, it's just an addiction. 262 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,640 So when we look at your story, you, you struggled with sugar 263 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,320 addiction for years and years and years. 264 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Talk us. Talk, talk us through that. 265 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,800 OK, I was a really picky eater as a child. 266 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:24,320 Like I was adverse to different textures and so I would, a 267 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,400 healthy meal in my mind was a meat, a vegetable and a 268 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,680 carbohydrate. And so I would eat just the bare 269 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,400 minimum that I could to get by. So and then I would fill up on 270 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,400 sugar. So I'd sneak sugar. 271 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,040 As a kid, there were always chocolate chip, homemade 272 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,880 chocolate chip cookies in our home. 273 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,880 And interestingly enough, like they were, there was no butter 274 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,800 in my home 'cause my mom was doing low fat and like Weight 275 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,840 Watchers kind of the thing. So their cookies were made with 276 00:15:53,160 --> 00:16:00,480 half Crisco, half margarine, but I had like she made homemade 277 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,880 cookies for our lunches every day. 278 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,560 So like 2 cookies every day for lunch. 279 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,440 So just a steady stream and like, and then I like, I would 280 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,760 bake desserts and I would make this and make that. 281 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,440 And so just always a sweet tooth. 282 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:19,160 And I come by this like my father is a sweet, has a sweet 283 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,120 tooth. He's always got candy in his 284 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,480 pocket. I knew where his stashes were 285 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,640 and he would buy peppermints and like Atomic fireballs in pound 286 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,320 bags. And so like to take one or two 287 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,720 here, you know, every day. Like nobody knew that it was me. 288 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,960 It was really easy to just get candy and I could ride my bike 289 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,040 up to a gas station and buy candy when you get money. 290 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,640 And like, I don't think my mom knew how much I was eating 291 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,240 because I was doing it secretly. Another interesting fact about 292 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,960 my childhood is at age 5, I got to tour the Kellogg's facility 293 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,640 and I got a free box of Froot Loops at which then that made me 294 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,359 a customer for life. I had seen how they were made. 295 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,480 I remember the tour like, and they just play in, you know, a 296 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,800 free box of cereal that's all mine. 297 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,319 I don't have to share it with my sister. 298 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,319 Like talk about customer loyalty. 299 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:27,200 So what else about sugar? I look back now in the food 300 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:33,000 aversions that I did have align with how I'm eating now. 301 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,560 And what because another aspect of that is that I've had a 302 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:45,440 bladder and a bladder disease. And so like these food aversions 303 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,360 are the things that my bladder does not like today. 304 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,480 And then sugar, I look back is low residue. 305 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,160 Like I don't like having fiber in my gut. 306 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,360 It just feels raw. I can feel like cutting the 307 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:05,960 inside of me, which I'm sure sugar worsens like because of 308 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,840 the yeast and the the imbalance that it brings in your gut. 309 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,200 But sugar is low residue and it gives you a calorie boost and 310 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,680 some energy boost. But then I thought I was 311 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:23,400 hypoglycemic so 'cause my sugar would crash so badly that I 312 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,880 thought I needed more like I. And even when I did try to avoid 313 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:35,600 sugar, I was still doing honey and juice and fruit smoothies 314 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,000 and such. Even if I wasn't eating candy, I 315 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,000 would try to like limit myself on candy, knowing that that was 316 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,880 not good for me and nutritional. But then I just loaded up on 317 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,000 fructose and other kind of sugars. 318 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,120 And do you think that was the that was the start of your, your 319 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:56,440 downfall when you had developed like the, the migraines, the the 320 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,160 go all these like the issues that you had, Do you think it 321 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,160 was mainly down to that or there was, was there something else 322 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:08,520 that was triggering the problem? I think sugar was the root of 323 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,120 that problem because it was pervasive in all my life. 324 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,040 I would try to limit it and I would feel a little bit better, 325 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,640 but I wasn't able to stay clean off sugar. 326 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,240 It would sneak back in. Desserts are so pervasive and 327 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,960 like even pleasing. Like pleasing people when you go 328 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,360 to their house for dinner, or pleasing people because they've 329 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:39,320 made you a birthday cake. Yeah. 330 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:43,240 Yeah, and compared to what you know now and compared to what 331 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,840 you knew back then, how come you couldn't come off the sugar back 332 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,320 then like we, I'm sure you would have tried everything. 333 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,160 I need to, I need to try and cut down the sugar as much as I can, 334 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,600 but I'm but I'm always failing. What was talking through the 335 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,240 transition? What changed? 336 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,440 What changed? It's so addictive like it. 337 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,160 I've never done drugs, but like what I see people struggling 338 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:18,640 with, with hard drugs, like a moment of weakness or a moment 339 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,320 of joy, like you turn to the habits and the, and it the 340 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,640 feedback that it gives your mind or your body or your soul or 341 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:35,680 something like it. It's it's so alluring and then 342 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:44,280 and not being nutritionally satisfied, you're very confused 343 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,760 and you're hungry for something like you're hungry for 344 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,680 nutritional substance that is satisfying. 345 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:57,120 And that's what carnivore finally introduced for me is 346 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:03,280 like to eat beef and taste and be satiated for the first time 347 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:08,000 and to understand like I could not take another bite And I am. 348 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,360 I'm so full of the protein. I'm so full of these healthy 349 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:18,560 fats that are like lining and nourishing my body, like lining 350 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,120 the mucosal layers and nourishing every cell in my 351 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:27,760 body. Like it a switch finally went 352 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,680 off that said, Hey, Sugar's not what you've been looking for 353 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:36,800 this whole time. Especially like every month I 354 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,840 would, I'd be like, I just need something. 355 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,000 I need something. I need something and I'm, I 356 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:47,400 would go to the grocery store looking for fudge or something 357 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,040 sugary sweet that I thought would meet this need that I 358 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,520 could tell my body was just craving something. 359 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,280 But it was fat that my body was craving. 360 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,920 And I could have never figured like I didn't figure that out on 361 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,880 my own. People had to tell me that that 362 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,560 fat was what I was craving. And especially every month when 363 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,400 my cycle would come along like I was craving fat and I didn't 364 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,920 ever know it. I think the one thing carnivore 365 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,280 gives you is just it gives you that freedom, that freedom, that 366 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,640 freedom around your food anymore. 367 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,760 You don't need to be fearful around your food anymore. 368 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,520 This is what really frustrates me when they say if carnivore is 369 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,200 an eating disorder. Rubbish. 370 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,160 If anything carnivore actually fixes your eating disorder. 371 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,600 I think I agree. I think it has fixed that 372 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,760 because of the nourishment and friends that I try to explain it 373 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,600 to you don't understand because they think that they would eat 374 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:51,880 fat forever and that because they, I mean, we've all like 375 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,080 opened a bag of chips and just said we would have a small 376 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,920 portion and we've eaten the whole thing. 377 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,680 Like we've, we've started something that was satisfying, 378 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,080 We thought was satisfying, but it was unsatisfying in the end. 379 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,360 But like fat is not the same way. 380 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:13,880 Like it is self filling. I was going to say self 381 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,920 fulfilling. It's, that's not a fulfillment 382 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,200 like a prophecy kind of thing, but it's a, it's satiating in a 383 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,680 sense that there's an end like you cannot take another bite. 384 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,320 And it, and I think that's the biggest issue for people that I 385 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:31,760 think that's the biggest issue for people. 386 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,280 A lot of people when they go on a diet or any kind of program, 387 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,400 you ask them why couldn't you not stick to it? 388 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,200 9 * / 10 they will say to you, I was always hungry, always 389 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,960 hungry. Couldn't understand why. 390 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,480 And then they developed these issues as they get older and 391 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,240 they're convinced that the diet is perfect. 392 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,640 You'll ask them, OK, run. Give me a rundown of your diet. 393 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,440 Most of the time they're having like, like oats in the morning, 394 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,280 like a protein shake or something like that with some 395 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,560 berries at lunchtime. They'll probably have a 396 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,960 smoothie. They're they're kind of doing 397 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,640 the same thing. Everybody's doing the same 398 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,800 thing. And and you're looking at it and 399 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,680 saying, well, you look amazing. You look great. 400 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,640 And then some people who can't lose the weight, you're looking 401 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,400 at this, you're looking at that situation and saying, OK, well, 402 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,680 do you mind me asking how many calories you're on at the 403 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,560 moment? And they'll give you a number. 404 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:22,160 And they're they're dramatically under eaten. 405 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Like I've heard stories, women eating under 1000 calories a 406 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,120 day. And it's like you're looking at 407 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:31,160 these women and they're around 596 foot tall. 408 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,840 And I'm like, you're drastically under eating yourself. 409 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,360 You're not realizing you're starving your body just to get 410 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:38,960 in shape. You know, this is going to have 411 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,640 a huge impact on your hormones. Your menstrual cycle is going to 412 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,480 be all messed up. Do not realize you're actually 413 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,560 messing up your health here. But but, but then you'll hear 414 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,720 them. Oh, but Mark, I still want to 415 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,560 lose weight. I still want to look amazing. 416 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,360 And that's where I think we're, we're giving out the wrong 417 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:57,640 message here. We all think that just by 418 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,200 looking amazing, we're going to be healthy. 419 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,480 But it should be the other way around. 420 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,760 Put your health first, allow your body to heal naturally and 421 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,400 the weight will come off naturally and you'll actually 422 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,320 heal most of your symptoms hopefully over the next couple 423 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,720 of months or next couple of years. 424 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,880 I think it's so important. I really do. 425 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,520 I think it's, I think that's the message we should be doing, but 426 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,760 unfortunately the algorithm is against us because nobody wants 427 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,240 to hear this information because a cured person is no longer a 428 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,200 customer of theirs, and that's the problem. 429 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:34,400 I agree. It's very, very frustrating 430 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,040 because as I said, it's we're going to put your, we're going 431 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,680 to put your podcast up now tomorrow or the next day. 432 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,040 And nine times out of 10, not many people are going to watch 433 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,360 it or not. No, not many people are going to 434 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:49,040 have the opportunity to watch it because the algorithm won't push 435 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,720 it, but they should be hearing your story. 436 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,680 You know what I mean? It's just, it's just, it's very, 437 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,840 very, it's very, very because if we did, like if we did a podcast 438 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,120 on the sugar diet, for example, and we had you on and we, we 439 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,640 started speaking everything about the sugar diet, this would 440 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,440 blow up, blow up if you're all over social media. 441 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:11,400 But when we hear your story, it's like, no, we can't, we 442 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,400 can't allow this to go out there because if we do, then we, we 443 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,480 could literally change someone's life here. 444 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,800 And we don't want to do that. And I just think it's, I think 445 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,960 this thing's disgusting. At the end of day, it's a 446 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,040 business model. When you look at the food that 447 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,400 we're consuming and we're buying it over and over and over again, 448 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,760 like you said with the cereal, and you can't understand why you 449 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,840 can't shut off that hunger. They know that. 450 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,040 They know that you can't shut off the hunger. 451 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,640 Yeah. You're going to keep on coming 452 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,920 back. You keep coming back over and 453 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,720 over and over again. You're going to keep buying it 454 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,560 over and over and over again. So you're just making these 455 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,560 people richer. But while you're making these 456 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,120 people richer, you're the one that's in the background and 457 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,080 you're the one that's suffering. Getting sicker and sicker. 458 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,400 Yeah, very, very sad, isn't? It it is. 459 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,880 So when you went I, I know I mentioned a little bit about 460 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,760 endometriosis. I think you, you mentioned that 461 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,040 you talked a little bit on this on the last podcast. 462 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,000 Were you diagnosed with endometriosis or did you feel 463 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,360 like you had endometriosis? I would I had no symptoms of it, 464 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,200 but as we as my hip pain started, So what happened? 465 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,960 I I started running with my children. 466 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,320 They were four years old and six years old. 467 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,480 And so I, I've never been a runner. 468 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,600 I, I've always been very adverse to exercise. 469 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,040 And I started running club and I was like kindergarten running 470 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,880 club is my pace of exercise. I can do this. 471 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:39,920 Then my hip started hurting and we went, it was, I had 4 472 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,960 surgeries in three years trying to figure out that it was my 473 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,200 hip. So the first surgery I had was 474 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,280 an exploratory surgery for this, this pain in my lower right 475 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:55,400 quadrant. This is in 2017 I and they found 476 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,720 endometriosis on my bladder so a big chocolate cyst on my bladder 477 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,960 and the surgeon took it off and said endometriosis is your 478 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,160 problem like follow endometriosis. 479 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:14,080 So I found an A surgeon in a city 3 hours away who was 480 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,440 happened to be in network, which is a miracle. 481 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,720 And she did expert excision of all the endometriosis inside and 482 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,560 there was not a lot in in in my abdominal cavity. 483 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,960 She didn't find any more just that one on my bladder was the 484 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,880 largest. And the surgeon, the first 485 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,120 surgeon had taken care of it. So she thought that I had she 486 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,640 thought it would be was hormonal. 487 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,480 So we tried some progesterone shots. 488 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:47,080 I eventually had a hysterectomy, a full hysterectomy and that 489 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,360 didn't resolve my pain. And so then she sent me to 490 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,480 pelvic floor physical therapy and urogynecology. 491 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,600 And in one, I mean this was a full 3 year thing and in one 492 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,240 week I got two diagnosis where I had a hip impingement with 493 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,800 labral tear inside my hip joint. So that the cushion inside your, 494 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,720 this is your balls supposed to be round. 495 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,760 Mine was not probably from a high school injury. 496 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600 And then it had torn, the running had torn the cushion 497 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,800 inside the joint from 1:50. And so that was the source of my 498 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,920 pain. So the endometriosis, I've had 499 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,640 friends who've had endometriosis and they can't get pregnant and 500 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,960 they have horrible cycles and the PCOS I've. 501 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,120 Had it for years, yeah. Went through all that. 502 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,320 Oh it's just horrible to walk alongside a friend and not be 503 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,280 able to do anything and help them in any way. 504 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,600 Mine affected my bladder. Yeah, mine did too. 505 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:52,520 I had a chain infections and I thought, you know, the doctors 506 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,120 asked me are you sexually active? 507 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,560 And I said no, not for months. And it just kept coming and I 508 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,200 had a cyst on my ovary, had to have an ovary removed. 509 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,080 I didn't. I never really connected the 510 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,320 bladder to the endometriosis until I read heard you on Dave 511 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,640 Mack and you talked about that. That's just so enlightening. 512 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,520 It's a horrible, yeah, the endometriosis is horrible. 513 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,360 And then the bladder disease and like the constant bladder 514 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,320 infections, that's what it felt like to have this bladder 515 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,440 disease, cause the lining of my bladder was raw and never healed 516 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,080 up. Different foods I would eat 517 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:36,800 would make my bladder bleed. I would I I finally was able, I 518 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,560 mean, after three or four years, I could learn like this is an 519 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:46,360 infection or this is just my IC. I followed a special diet for 520 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,080 the interstitial cystitis, but it never helped. 521 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,400 And after four or five years of doing that, I would I was able 522 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,720 to tell my husband like meat never offends my bladder. 523 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,640 What is going on with that? Like I can eat a hot dog, I can 524 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,360 eat a brat with spice in it and it doesn't offend my bladder. 525 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,040 How could that be? And I eat roasted cauliflower 526 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,560 and roasted green beans and they're just tearing me up in my 527 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,360 gut and also offending my bladder. 528 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,520 It was, I love figuring puzzles out. 529 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,760 Like, I like watching Sherlock Holmes kind of stories, you 530 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,560 know? And like, I love solving 531 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,120 problems. And I could not solve my own 532 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,840 problems because I was not understanding nutrition right? 533 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,040 And that I needed a lot of protein and I needed a lot of 534 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,040 fat. And that was very limited in our 535 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,800 diets. I, I would stand at the meat 536 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,080 counter before carnivore. I would just stand at the meat 537 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,600 counter and be like, well, what's on sale? 538 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,040 And like, why this or why what, what, what about this cut? 539 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,040 What about that cut? I just didn't even know how to 540 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,440 how to buy beef. So I would go buy chicken 541 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,680 because I knew to buy chicken breasts and I knew my family 542 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,440 would eat it and I thought it tasted OK. 543 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,560 But after eating beef and eating beef for two years, like I never 544 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,520 want to eat chicken again. I might be able to help you. 545 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,720 I might be able to help you solve another problem because 546 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,080 you mentioned running, hip problems and joint pain and wear 547 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680 and tear. Now, I'm not a big fan of 548 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,520 anybody running. I think anybody who's running is 549 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,560 just madness because. We're. 550 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,120 We're not, we're not designed to run. 551 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520 When you look at what our ancestors did, we ran, we 552 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,000 sprinted away from and we sprinted after animals. 553 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,280 We sprinted away from animals. That's what we're, we're 554 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,040 designed to do. We're we're not designed to run. 555 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,080 Now, if you're overweight, which is what most people do, what do 556 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,240 they do? What do the PTS tell them to do? 557 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,800 Go on a light jog. Now you've got to imagine the 558 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,320 impact you're putting on your joints. 559 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,920 You've got to imagine the impact you're putting on your hips 560 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,320 massively. Exactly. 561 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,120 That's a lot of me. I mean, you, you put an extra 20 562 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,560 kilos on your on your body and run and you let me know how you 563 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,600 feel. It's not good. 564 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,600 When I had I had a torn meniscus replaced and I talked to that 565 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,760 knee surgeon and he said like every pound you lose takes 4 lbs 566 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:25,280 off your knee. 100%, yeah. Because of the because of being 567 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,760 low on your body like it just compresses down and it your 568 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,400 knees experience at four times every pound for four. 569 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,720 Because when you think about it, what's causing the problem? 570 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,680 It's the inflammation. So when we're when our bodies is 571 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800 retaining all this water from the junk, all the carbohydrates, 572 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,160 the processed food, that's inflammation. 573 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,200 Now over time, if you're ignoring that and you're trying 574 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,040 to outwork a bad diet, which is what most people do and you're 575 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,440 and you're ignoring like the likes of the weight training, 576 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,760 weight training can help you become insulin sensitive. 577 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680 But if you're, if you're adding to that and you're just saying 578 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,320 me, I'm just going to do the cardio, what's happening is 579 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,600 you're making your situation worse because you're going into 580 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,560 that environment in pain and you're making the situation even 581 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,679 worse by doing what they're telling you to do. 582 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,400 So you're going to even, you've got me even even more pain. 583 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,120 So when you do that more pain, it's like, OK, I don't know how 584 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,239 to handle this situation. So you might need to go see a 585 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,239 masseuse or someone else to look after your joint pain, but 586 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,199 they're the ones that caused in the in the 1st place. 587 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,040 They should have never said to you, you need to be on a 588 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,120 treadmill running. They should have never said to 589 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,120 you that you should be outdoors running. 590 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,080 They should have said to you, OK, Amber, there's a situation 591 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,080 here that we need to address. We need to heal the body first. 592 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,520 Give your body the right nutrition. 593 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,000 I just want you to walk every day until that inflammation 594 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,120 comes down. Once your body fully heals, then 595 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,760 we'll get you into the gym and then we'll start kicking ass. 596 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,040 But I think a lot of people do the other way around. 597 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,000 Let's get you into the gym. Let's, let's put a lot of a lot 598 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,840 of pressure on yourself. Let's put an awful lot of 599 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,600 pressure on the body. It doesn't work that way. 600 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,920 You've got to, you've got to think about this. 601 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,720 If you're, if you're an obese person, the last person, the 602 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,240 last thing you want to do is go into a gym. 603 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,680 You're going to be intimidated by everybody watching you. 604 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,320 You know, you're carrying all this weight. 605 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,400 So mentally you're not ready for the gym yet. 606 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,760 So what you should do is don't do any of that. 607 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,800 What's the one thing you can control? 608 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,040 I can put the rifle into my body. 609 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:22,880 Let's start there. What? 610 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,880 What other thing? What else can you control? 611 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,000 Movements. Regular movements. 612 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,080 Instead, if you're bringing your kids to the shop or bringing 613 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,640 your kids to the school, instead of just going for a normal 614 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,600 route, take a longer route so it's adding more steps into your 615 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,600 day. Instead of taking the elevator, 616 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,120 take the stairs. Just simple stuff. 617 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,400 And then what will happen is over time, your body's going to 618 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,720 heal. It's going to get better and 619 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:47,680 then you're going to be getting back to me and say I feel 620 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,520 fantastic. I feel a lot lighter. 621 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,080 We all know what we're talking about here. 622 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,880 I'm ready to do all this stuff now. 623 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,640 OK, now we can put you into the gym now we can start building 624 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,960 muscle. You're never going to be doing 625 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,280 any cardio anymore. I've just proved to you that you 626 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,240 can lose weight without doing cardio. 627 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,880 Now. The most important thing we need 628 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,280 to do as we get older is build the muscle. 629 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,480 Build the muscle because that's that's the key to longevity 630 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,360 here, not cardio. Yeah, we see too much in the 631 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,160 people think going to the gym is their big answer to everything. 632 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,320 It's, it's very, it's very, very sad because you see so many 633 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,000 people in the gym, they're just killing themselves and they want 634 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,680 to put the work in and they, they, they just want to do 635 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,840 what's right for them. And you get it. 636 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,600 But it's just the information. It's the message they're getting 637 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,080 is wrong. We're all listening to the same 638 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,480 voice. How many years have you been 639 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,360 listening to go on a low fat diet, go on a low calorie diet, 640 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,880 You know, eat your carbohydrates, eat your plant 641 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,840 food, eat your vegetables. Everybody's doing this, you 642 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,200 know, I mean, they'll say to you replace saturated fat with seed 643 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,320 oils. Everybody's doing this. 644 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,480 You tell me, are we getting better or getting worse? 645 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,840 We're getting worse. A lot worse, I mean. 646 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,400 Like. Seriously, what else do you want 647 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,640 me to say? It's, it's in front of you. 648 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,280 All this information that you're getting at the moment, It's it's 649 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,400 literally in front of you. And the definition of insanity 650 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,880 is you're going back to the same people over and over and over 651 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,680 again, the same people who are failing you and you're going 652 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,600 back to them again. That that to me, is the 653 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,600 definition of insanity. Yes, I was ready with an 654 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,960 argument against statins when I went in for my follow up after 655 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,920 blood work just two weeks ago. And I was ready to tell her like 656 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,960 I've been listening to eat Cheerios for heart health like 657 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,400 since I was 6. And like the heart is not the 658 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,520 people eating Cheerios and doing the heart healthy things and the 659 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,440 oatmeal and this and that. Like it's not any better. 660 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,200 So like we're answering the wrong question. 661 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,880 That's it's probably good for some question, but it's not the 662 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,720 heart question. Thankfully I have a Doctor Who 663 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,520 didn't freak out when she saw my LDL. 664 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,520 I she asked questions and she even took notes and she's like, 665 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:12,960 oh, so you think eating low carb keto diet could help people with 666 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,160 interstitial cystitis and it heals their bladder, the lining 667 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:21,200 of their bladder. She she was curious and that. 668 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,360 Was great shock. You don't you don't hear much of 669 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,160 that right. So a few months on now, how how 670 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,480 long you doing carnivore now? Next week will be two years. 671 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,840 Amazing. And where? 672 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,200 Where are you now on your journey? 673 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,000 Is everything healed or is there any still symptoms in the 674 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,960 background? There are symptoms in the 675 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,360 background that need help. At six months, At 5 or 6 months, 676 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,320 I hit a big set back, a roadblock. 677 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:54,120 I got a fungal infection in my large intestines. 678 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,520 I got it. It took a it took six months for 679 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:03,040 me to even figure out what was going on because I had used old 680 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,000 potting soil that I found in the back of my garage from years 681 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,280 ago, like 3 or more years ago. And then all my house plants 682 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,360 started dying. Then we got fungus gnats and I 683 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,440 finally figured out like I got a fungus infection from playing in 684 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,840 and breathing in this disease dirt. 685 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,040 So I was at doctors. I just my digestion slowed to a 686 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,520 halt and then I did I could not produce a bowel movement and I 687 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,160 did 2 enemas and I couldn't produce a bowel movement. 688 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,080 I was distrustful of going to the ER 'cause I knew that they 689 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,720 would say take Miralax and like and they wouldn't approve of a 690 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,440 of the carnivore diet. My husband was really scared for 691 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,840 me thinking that my carnivore diet had caused this. 692 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,600 But I was listening to stories on, you know, interviews like 693 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,080 what you do and like what Dave Mack does. 694 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,560 I knew like no one else was experiencing this. 695 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,680 I got a sickness of some sort. So I ended up getting, I went 696 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,520 and got a colonic which is like a water washout and that allowed 697 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,280 me to be able and I, I did that for two months like. 698 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:26,760 Regularly until and I added some herbs and supplements back in to 699 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,080 try to like clear out a fungus that was growing inside. 700 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,840 So that has set me back significantly. 701 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,920 And I, I did go get a colonoscopy and the doctors only 702 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,680 and he said everything looks so healthy inside, like, you know, 703 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:48,040 no diverticulitis and any of that like perfect bill of 704 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,840 health, just add Metamucil. That was his only Metamucil for 705 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,160 life. That was his only consult to me. 706 00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:01,680 So I did try like I tried some Acacia fiber. 707 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,240 It just it, I started getting bloated again, which I hadn't 708 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:07,960 been bloated for any of that time. 709 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,520 I started, I added like hummus and some veggies back in trying 710 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,160 to like appease my family and my conscience 'cause I started to 711 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,000 doubt like, is this what is going on? 712 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,560 But time proved that it was a fungal infection and it time 713 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,040 proved it was that bad dirt that I had put in all of my house 714 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,640 plants and then breathed in for three months as it was growing 715 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:38,800 in my house. So I still have the remnant of 716 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,440 this fungal infection. I'm, I feel like I'm down to 717 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,920 like 1, the last 1% that I have to kick. 718 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:51,160 And I listened to a interview by Christina Clark and Doctor Baz 719 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:57,040 and I had, it's so interesting listening to your body 'cause 720 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,680 like, I know if I eat lettuce, I will have joint pain here in my 721 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,880 wrist the next day. Just little twinges. 722 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,960 And I had been drawn to this, this drink that had chlorella in 723 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:15,560 it, which is like a, a seaweed. It's a kombucha brand that has 724 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,480 chlorella in it. And I didn't know what chlorella 725 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,760 was. And I've looked at chlorella 726 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,720 like a supplement and I didn't know which to buy. 727 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,720 And I, it was more expensive than I wanted to pay at that 728 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,640 point 'cause I didn't know if it was just another gamble or 729 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,400 something. But I have a drink, a kombucha 730 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,520 with chlorella in it in hand. And Doctor Baz says to add 731 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,080 chlorella to your diet to heal this mucosal lining and heal the 732 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,240 gut lining and rebuild the the loose joints for leaky gut. 733 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:51,640 So that was a great day to have that information come to me that 734 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,360 I had been looking for all this time. 735 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,520 And then headaches. I still have some debilitating 736 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,920 headaches. They're less frequent and they 737 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,120 are less painful right now, but they're still knocking me out. 738 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,040 So if I can, those are the two things that remain that I feel 739 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,280 like need heals, but I plan to stay carnivore. 740 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:22,160 It's the satiation of it. The other aspect about being so 741 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:31,080 satisfied with food is that like I'm sad at it turned off my, my 742 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,320 commercialism like this desire to go shopping and like I don't 743 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,920 buy shoes anymore and I don't buy makeup anymore. 744 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,840 Like I, I'm so satiated in life because of my diet. 745 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:50,880 I'm, I'm saving money like never before so easily. 746 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,720 I've I made a whole list of things that like you can just 747 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,600 save. Where did I put that? 748 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,480 The satiation, it turns off your consumerism. 749 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,840 Like I used to shop to fill some sort of a void, shopping for my 750 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,800 gift. I mean, even gift giving. 751 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,640 Not just me, yeah. I can relate. 752 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,240 Can you how? Like how have you seen it? 753 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,120 Well, you made a great point. You made a great go go, go 754 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,720 victorious, right? No. 755 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,040 Well, yeah, I, I used to be very compulsive about shopping and 756 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,160 every, every other day I'd I'd order something on Amazon, I'd 757 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,720 just go nuts. And and that has really calmed 758 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:35,280 down for me. I do a little bit of shopping 759 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,160 for my grandkids, but not the way I used to. 760 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,560 Yeah, I was just going to, I was just going to add to that. 761 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,920 Sorry, Amber, I was just going to add that. 762 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,640 Yeah. You see life differently when 763 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,640 you come with the carnivore. Like you don't the materialistic 764 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,320 stuff doesn't bother you anymore. 765 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,840 When you think about all the medication that we used to buy 766 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,680 in the past, the supplements, all that kind of stuff, like you 767 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,800 don't buy that anymore. Now it's just me. 768 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,360 Like, you know, I mean, and I like the way you mentioned about 769 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,960 the makeup or like, obviously I'm not a woman, but I think 770 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,920 when you start eating properly, you feel differently, you know, 771 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,920 I mean, you feel good about yourself. 772 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,040 There's a sexiness that comes out of you, if that makes sense. 773 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,520 You know, I mean, you don't need all this makeup to cover 774 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,520 underneath because I've heard a lot of women, that's the reason 775 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,280 why they wear the makeup is because they want to cover like 776 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,880 the heart, the feelings that they're going through. 777 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,000 But when you become carnival, because I've actually heard this 778 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,640 from women, something just changes. 779 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,840 Their life just changed. They see life differently, you 780 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,560 know, I mean, they don't think they can walk around make a free 781 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,120 and they're absolutely fine with that. 782 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,120 Does that make sense? Yeah, it does for me. 783 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,280 I sold Mary Kay for 20 years, which is a American brand. 784 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,520 And like, I enjoy makeup and I enjoy like the fanciness ever 785 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,600 whatever. But I wear so little makeup now 786 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,640 and I don't wear any, any foundation. 787 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,120 I'll do some lipstick and a little bit of mascara and like 788 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:05,320 out of habit, like I don't even want it or need it and no creams 789 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,520 or lotions. And I would buy, I would like we 790 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,640 have AI have a tight budget, but when I would have spending 791 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,840 money, I would like buy this expensive moisturizer or 792 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,800 something thinking I'm doing something good for my skin. 793 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,240 But no, I'm going to go spend that $60.00 or $90.00 on a 794 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,160 brisket. Absolutely. 795 00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:26,640 The best investment you can ever make. 796 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,480 We want to be respectful of your time, Amber, but I've got to ask 797 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,360 you, what are the family thinking about all this? 798 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,600 My family is supportive of me and they want me to be healthy. 799 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:44,480 When I had finished 90 days my son had said I hope you continue 800 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,120 doing carnivore because I like all the bacon. 801 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,280 But they are not inclined to try it for themselves. 802 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,640 So I have a 14 year old son who's trying to bodybuild and 803 00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:02,400 work out and get big muscles. He loves his sugar and I'm the 804 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,000 one who let him have all that sugar in the 1st place and it's 805 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,560 it's too late to step in and like take it away from him. 806 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:14,440 So I can only lead by example. Now I do keep hot dogs and 807 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,640 hamburger patties ready for them and I know it's been a good week 808 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,440 of lots of meat eating in my house when there's a when all 809 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,920 the forks are gone out of the silverware drawer. 810 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,800 If it's spoons, that means they're eating the cereal and 811 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,560 the Mac and cheese, but if there's a lot of forks gone, 812 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,480 they've been eating burger patties and hot dogs and even 813 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,240 having pepperoni and meat stuff. And I'm making a lot of lasagna 814 00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:47,680 for them because I will load it up with meat and cottage cheese 815 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,000 and cheese and put less noodles in it every time. 816 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,600 I feel like that's a good thing. And I'm doubling all the meat in 817 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,720 all their recipes. So they're getting more meat, 818 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,640 but they still love their veggie veggies. 819 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,080 They they love their veggies and their carbs. 820 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:09,920 My husband's family, if I go to my in laws, there will be 7 821 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,480 different dishes of carbohydrates on the table. 822 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,120 There will be one roast and like an iceberg lettuce salad. 823 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,280 And that was an adjustment for me because I'm like, where's all 824 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,280 the green stuff? Like iceberg lettuce isn't 825 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,520 green. So now they know like we go to 826 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,800 restaurants where I can buy burger patties or steak. 827 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,800 We they tolerate me, but they are not inclined to jump in. 828 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,080 But it's amazing, though, it's because you can't get any better 829 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,920 than eating the steak because that's one thing I've noticed 830 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,640 with my family since I've eaten this way. 831 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,520 They're getting, they're not carnivore themselves, but every 832 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,600 time you go out for a meal, they always buy the steak. 833 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,440 They used to buy the chicken and yeah, they used to always buy 834 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,320 the chicken and the pork and like the fish and all that. 835 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,360 But now they watch me in like a big juicy steak and they, they 836 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,520 see that I filled me up and I like because every time they 837 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,520 eat, they eat a food. Like every time you go out, 838 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,160 they're always hungry. They always get dessert. 839 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,160 And I'm like, why don't you just get a steak? 840 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,240 And instead of eating the potato 1st and the vegetables eat the 841 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:15,080 steak 1st and let's see what happens after that. 842 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:16,640 Nine times out of 10, they're full. 843 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,440 They're absolutely full. So I say to them, OK, listen, 844 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,520 leave. I'm glad they would try. 845 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,000 That's what I'm saying. But and I say to them, like 846 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,800 instead of getting the gravy and the pepper sauce and all that, 847 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,120 just leave that alone. Just eat the steak on its own. 848 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,520 Put a bit of salt on a bit of pepper and just eat it and let's 849 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,400 see what happens at night. My daughter said to me a couple 850 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,560 of weeks ago, Jesus, I'm, I'm very, very full. 851 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,800 Is this meant to happen? I'm like, yes, yes, that's 852 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,440 that's the reason why. So now she's eating more. 853 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,680 I'm getting her into it. Like she still eats the 854 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,800 standards because she's in college at the moment. 855 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,320 So she's still eating that kind of that, that lifestyle. 856 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,320 But yeah, she but she is. And she is incorporating like 857 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,760 ground beef and red meat into her life. 858 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,560 And I only seen her there the other day. 859 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:00,800 She's she's cooking her own meals now. 860 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,480 She never ever cooked her own meals. 861 00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:06,200 So she's making, so she's making her own lunches where she used 862 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,160 to just go into the into college and she used to pay for her 863 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,480 lunches. And I said, well, listen, you're 864 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,560 spending nearly a £10 a day on food. 865 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,320 Just use your heads, get yourself, I'll get you some 866 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,080 lunch boxes, I'll get you the food, just make it yourself. 867 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,120 Only takes 5 minutes. I caught her in the kitchen. 868 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,520 It was a proud moment for me because I was watching her 869 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,640 making up all this beef and she made, she made literally seven 870 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,320 or five days worth of food. It was great to watch, 871 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,640 fantastic. And I love to see that. 872 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,640 So I'm, I'm obviously having, I'm obviously having an impact 873 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,600 on her life. And, and I think that the more I 874 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,800 keep on doing this, I think she'll resonate that way 875 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,760 eventually because like you said, my daughter's name is 20, 876 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,440 it's 23. And she's passed that stakes now 877 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,640 where I wish I could have done this when she was a lot younger. 878 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,240 Whereas now she can like if I don't buy the processed food, 879 00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,720 she can buy herself. And she does, she has a, she has 880 00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:01,760 a stash in her room. So seeing it. 881 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,920 So it's very, very hard, but I have to, I have to be a 882 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,120 responsible parent and say, OK, there's nothing I can do about 883 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,760 that situation, but I can try and make our food choices a 884 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,600 little bit better. So when I do buy the potato, 885 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,920 when I do buy the carbohydrates, I'm looking up like sweet 886 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,840 potato, rice, baked potato, you know, I mean stuff like that. 887 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,920 If, if it's protein, it's going to be fatty protein. 888 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,880 It's not going to be like lean source of protein. 889 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,160 She's getting the right nutrients in, in the meat. 890 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,400 So I'm doing what I can. I'm doing what I can. 891 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,080 But I'm just hoping the more I keep on doing this, the more 892 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,840 she'll look at and say, eventually the penny's going to 893 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,440 drop and I'm going to stick with this stamp for the rest of my 894 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,960 life. I think that's all we do. 895 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,760 It's encouraging. I think that's think as a 896 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,080 parent, that's the only thing you need to do. 897 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,160 Just don't give up on your child and just just keep going, keep 898 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,840 ticking over. And hopefully, hopefully then as 899 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,520 I said, that moment will come. Let's say I finally want to do 900 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,760 this. I finally want to become 901 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,160 carnivore. Great, let's get started. 902 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,080 That's awesome. When we go out to eat at a 903 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,440 steakhouse, my husband will get like a 5 oz little tiny 904 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,080 something and I'll get the biggest one on the menu. 905 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,280 And so they bring it out and they place the big steak in 906 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,200 front of him and the little one in front of me. 907 00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:27,520 It's like. Like that's nice. 908 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,040 Had a girl, that's funny. That must be amazing to watch 909 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,200 though. He must be looking at you and 910 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,720 saying you're not going to eat all that. 911 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,440 He doesn't like meat like. Wow. 912 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,160 Sometimes, like for our anniversary we bought the 913 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,560 biggest steak that the restaurant sold and like we 914 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,600 split it and like he can take 5 bites and he's done. 915 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:55,040 He's just not a big meat eater. And I mean, he's 55, so he's 916 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,000 pretty established, but there's still hope. 917 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,440 Well, I remember I was on a family holiday a few weeks ago 918 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,320 in Turkey and I bought these two big massive steaks. 919 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,280 We went in and the guy said it's it's a 500 grams steak. 920 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,400 And I said that's not going to be enough for me because I can 921 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,600 eat a lot. I can eat a lot of food. 922 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,880 I consume. I consume around 4 1/2 lbs of 923 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,680 red meat a day. So I said listen, bring me out 924 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,040 two of them. He said that you sure? 925 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,080 He says they're 2. They're two fatty rib eyes. 926 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,360 He says Are you sure? Because he was, he was talking 927 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,640 to me about cholesterol. I said listen, don't worry about 928 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,360 cholesterol, just just bring me out this two steaks. 929 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,960 So anyway, I brought 2 steaks out there. 930 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,800 But but or big, big, big steaks. No word for life. 931 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,840 Everybody that was coming in to get everybody that was coming 932 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,680 into the restaurant, everybody was staring me over, see over 933 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,440 there eating 2 steaks. Yes, he is. 934 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,360 He's just eating 2 steaks. He has no chips, no baked 935 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,800 potato, nothing else. He's just eating 2 steaks. 936 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,640 And a couple came over to me and says to me, do you mind me 937 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,600 asking, are you eating 2 steaks? And I said yeah. 938 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,120 She says, you know, are you not worried? 939 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,640 Are you not worried about your cholesterol? 940 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,280 I said no, not, not one bit. She says, you mind me asking 941 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,960 what numbers, what numbers you are? 942 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,080 And I said, I haven't got a clue, but I said, last time I 943 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,800 checked my cholesterol, it was well over 500, probably more 944 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,760 probably higher than that, but I think it was around six or 945 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,080 seven. I can't remember the exact 946 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,360 number. It was very, very high. 947 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,680 And so my LDL, my LDL was very, very high. 948 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,480 And she was like, wow, wow. And she says, do you mind if I 949 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,680 sit down and have a chat with you? 950 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,320 I said, you can't. I said you can, but I'm, I'm 951 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,320 with herself. So I don't have that long. 952 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,640 So she sat down and she says, I have, I have high cholesterol. 953 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,200 My doctor has, you know, statins. 954 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,320 I said, listen, what I'll do is take down my number. 955 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,000 This is my podcast, watch the watch all of them because I 956 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,760 don't have time to talk about this because I've talked with 957 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,000 this for two hours and I was like, I'm not going to talk 958 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,720 about this for two hours because I'm on a family holiday, but I 959 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:46,840 said go on to my podcast and and watch it. 960 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,720 That was like that was real. Does was six weeks ago. 961 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,800 She started watching my podcasts, but three weeks later 962 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,480 I got a phone call. I got an e-mail off her two 963 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,800 weeks ago. She's now she's now one of my 964 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,560 clients. Awesome. 965 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,680 That's awesome. That's great. 966 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,840 It's amazing. Like it's just like people, I 967 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,000 just say to people existing, just watch the podcast. 968 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,360 All the information that you need is on these podcasts 969 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,040 because we're bringing on people like yourself and what what 970 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,880 other evidence do you need? Like it's right in front of you. 971 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,440 Nobody can, nobody can tell you that you're a liar. 972 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,440 Nobody can can tell me that. We just need to follow the 973 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,600 research and follow the science. Amber is the science. 974 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,600 Amber is the is the research. We're not making this up. 975 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,440 We're not making this up. You think we just brought Amber 976 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,360 on and we paid. Exactly. 977 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,440 So it's just, it's just that's the reason why we're so eager, 978 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,080 we're so keen to get people like yourself on these podcasts. 979 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,880 We don't do this for any financial gain. 980 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,800 We do this just to spread awareness. 981 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,200 And as I mentioned to you at the very, very beginning, if we 982 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,880 bring you on here and it impacts just one or two people in the 983 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,800 world, then our job is done. Thank you for doing. 984 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:00,440 So where, where can people go to find you, Amber? 985 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:08,920 I'm on Facebook, Amber Waldier and amberwaldier@gmail.com. 986 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,200 Fantastic. And have you had a final message 987 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,720 for anybody watching this who are thinking that you know what, 988 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:16,720 I've never heard of this carnivore diet, but I'm thinking 989 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,760 about giving it a go and you're the here's the story quite 990 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,080 similar to yours. What advice would you give these 991 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,440 people? Try carnivore for 90 days. 992 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,000 Try it. Try it for a week. 993 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,280 At the beginning of my carnivore journey, my son had come home 994 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,480 from his friend's house and he had cooked a tuna steak at his 995 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,760 friend's house. And he's like, I want to teach 996 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,520 you how to do tuna steak. I said, well I don't have tuna 997 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,600 steak, but I have cow steak. So he thawed 2 steaks out of our 998 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,400 freezer and he cooked one of them up and ate most of it that 999 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,480 day. So it's 2:00 on a Saturday 1000 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,120 afternoon and there's one more steak there. 1001 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:59,640 And I ate it that day with this carnivore back story just kind 1002 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,880 of growing in my head. And I didn't want dinner that 1003 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,280 night 'cause I was so satiated and I felt really good and 1004 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,320 really happy the next day. And so I think it was that week 1005 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,040 that I was like, OK, I'm going to make a plan. 1006 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,640 So I made a plan on how, because it was October and I'm so I'm 1007 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,600 facing Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas. 1008 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,400 So I made a plan like, what's it? 1009 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,120 What am I going to do on Halloween night? 1010 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,520 I'm going to eat a really big steak that afternoon so that the 1011 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,680 sugar doesn't even look good. What am I going to do when I'm 1012 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,520 passing all the carbohydrates past me? 1013 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,720 And how am I going to answer when I just have ham and Turkey 1014 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,480 on my plate at Thanksgiving dinner? 1015 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,760 Because my aunt's going to ask me a question and my my mom's 1016 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,920 going to have this question. So I had a plan and answers for 1017 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,720 them and even a video that I could send each of them in those 1018 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,480 situations. I didn't end up using them, but 1019 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:57,400 I had a plan in my own mind. And, and try it like you don't 1020 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,000 have anything to lose 90 days. It's a fun challenge. 1021 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,840 Maybe you'll lose a little bit of weight. 1022 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,680 Maybe something you didn't even know that you're worried about, 1023 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,040 like a health ailment that's low on your list, will get fixed. 1024 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,200 And just to have something like that turn around is hugely 1025 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,240 encouraging. And you think what else could be 1026 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,720 fixed? What else could be fixed? 1027 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,240 Amazing, amazing number. Honestly, the message is great 1028 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,160 and we really appreciate you coming on and sharing your story 1029 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,960 and whatever you do next, I wish you all the best in your. 1030 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,120 Car thank you and. Then thank you so much. 1031 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,840 Let's let's say it touch and what we'll do is once this is 1032 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,000 uploaded, we'll send it on to you and you can you can do 1033 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,920 whatever you want. We're then. 1034 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,120 Thank you. It's so good to meet you, 1035 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,960 Victoria. And you Coach Mark, Thank you. 1036 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,360 Thanks. For coming on and we'll speak to 1037 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,360 you soon. OK, if you get. 1038 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,480 Value from this podcast? Please hit subscribe, drop a 1039 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,600 like comment and share this episode. 1040 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,280 It really helps spread the word on carnivore. 1041 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:04,680 Want support on the diet? e-mail ennismark93@gmail.com for 1042 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,400 a free consultation. 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