1 00:00:13,050 --> 00:00:16,050 Hello everyone and welcome back to Building with Brevin. 2 00:00:16,050 --> 00:00:19,930 We are in a new year. It is now 2024 and this is 3 00:00:19,930 --> 00:00:22,930 episode #19. We're excited to be back for 4 00:00:22,930 --> 00:00:25,850 another week and a new year actually. 5 00:00:25,850 --> 00:00:29,570 You know we've got a lot of cool podcast episodes and ideas and 6 00:00:29,570 --> 00:00:32,320 content for y'all. So definitely be sure to stay 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,560 tuned and listen to the podcast throughout the year. 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,120 We're going to continue to do everything we can to provide the 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,120 most value for you guys. But before we kick this episode 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,560 off, Brian, how was your How was your holiday season? 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,200 You know, it was nice, really relaxing and fun to spend time 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,800 with family and friends and and I love this time of year just 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,840 because of that, But also the downtime when you talk, when you 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,360 talk work, because when you're not working, most everybody else 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,440 isn't working this time of year. Every other time of year you 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,920 take time off, but everybody else is still still bombarding 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,880 you in a in a good way. I don't mean that in a bad way. 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,040 So really nice to just relax and have a lot of downtime all 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,920 around you. How about you? 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,560 Yeah, no, I couldn't have said it better myself. 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,280 It's it's great time of year. It's always exciting. 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,480 Christmas is always fun, the holiday spirit. 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,840 But yeah, we had some really good family time and got to 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,120 spend some time with my wife Sydney's family up in their new 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,400 lake home up in the Dallas area. So yeah, it was beautiful and 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,080 got to enjoy some time off. Quick reset and now we're ready 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,640 to hit it hard in 2024, as I'm sure most people are, you know, 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,440 these New Year's resolutions are a real thing. 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,920 So anyways. One, one of our, I don't know 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,800 that we'll call it a resolution, but something that that Steve 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,840 and I've talked about for the business is, you know, a lot of 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,200 people come back into the New year with a lot of energy, a lot 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,960 of optimism. Hey, I want to change some 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,480 things. I want to be a better husband, 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,760 wife, spouse, person, whatever it is I want to do. 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,680 I have career goals. I have personal goals. 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,000 But you know something for us is we're extremely grateful for our 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,960 listeners, for the people that have worked with us in our 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,400 business, in all aspects of our business, whether you're a home 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,640 owner, a past client, just people that talk to us for 41 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:17,520 advice, contractors, suppliers, all that. 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,280 So really what it's about is just making sure that as you 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,400 said at the beginning, we continue to add a lot of value 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,680 to to all of our listeners. But just really keep that energy 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,720 up right when when you're when you have a lot of a lot of 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,080 energy it's contagious and and people around you get more 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,880 energy and then we want to pass that along. 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,440 So I know it's going to be hard to quantify that but while we 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,600 have a lot of energy to kick off this year something that I want 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,440 to make sure we maintain a conscious effort to just stay on 51 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,840 top of. So hey we're we're grateful to 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,840 be in business really really proud of where we are in 24. 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,480 Obviously we have aspirations and goals and want to grow, but 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,600 let's let's keep that inner energy high this year. 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Love that. Yeah, I love that. 56 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:58,360 And just like you said, that energy is contagious. 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,640 So hopefully we can pass that through these microphones and on 58 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:05,720 to the listeners that all of us will be better off in this new 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,920 2024 year. So without further ado though, 60 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:10,360 this is going to be a great episode. 61 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,160 I, I hope for everybody. We really wanted to kind of 62 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,400 recap one of the episodes we've already talked about, but in a 63 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,560 different spin. And so I think it was one of our 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,840 most popular episodes. This is going to be some great 65 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,480 value and it's going to have some different golden Nuggets as 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,480 we like to say or some different insights. 67 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,280 So it will be kind of quicker pace and we're just going to run 68 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,240 through basically the gist of this episode, which is how do 69 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,080 you turn your dream home concept into reality in this new year. 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,480 So it's a new year. Like we said, a lot of people 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,560 have that high energy, they've got these high hopes for the 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,200 year. How do we keep that going and 73 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,960 take that concept of a new home and turn it into an actual 74 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,240 reality? So, yeah, I guess that being 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,360 said, Brian, I guess I'll kick it over to you to start this 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,680 thing off. I mean, where should people 77 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,360 start when they're, they've got this idea in their head they 78 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,560 want to turn the stream home into reality. 79 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,880 What's the first step? I I think it all starts with 80 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,920 understanding your own wants and needs and finances, right? 81 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,720 And I know that sounds extremely basic, extremely elementary, but 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,040 everybody has a budget no matter how much money you have or will 83 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,320 have, everybody has limitations on on a lot of different 84 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,800 aspects. So you know I I think it starts 85 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,680 with what am I comfortable in paying for a project all in and 86 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,480 then starting in a in a sense starting to work backwards right 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,640 from there and then quickly beginning to look at OK, what's 88 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,440 my timeline, where do I want to be starting to look at land 89 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,440 whether you want to do that on your own or you engage a a 90 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:57,680 realtor in that market so that you can say OK, this is my 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,640 budget, how much am I looking at for land and does this add up? 92 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,400 And I think a good metric here Steven is you know we don't like 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,600 the the land cost to be any more than about 20% of the build 94 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,520 ideally lower than that. But 20% is seems to be a number 95 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,880 that's thrown around. You know, for our homes that we 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,760 build, we try and stay under that number and sometimes it 97 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,640 gets close, but that's just a good ballpark when we talk about 98 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,600 early on budgets of what you're comfortable with and as you 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,960 start to think about OK, what what's my land look like. 100 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,400 That's so funny you say that, because I was literally thinking 101 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,960 about this show and what we should talk about. 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,400 And when you mentioned land, that's exactly the number I had 103 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,200 in my head too. We've always talked about that. 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,280 But that 20% rule is kind of a, it's not hard and fast, so don't 105 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:47,720 hold us to that, but it is a good benchmark, right. 106 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,800 So if you're looking at $1,000,000 home, just to put 107 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,880 this into numbers, you're looking for probably $200,000 108 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,560 lot or less. Now if it's got special 109 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,880 features, of course, if it's on the water or it's in the Rocky 110 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,960 Mountains in Colorado or on the beach or something, of course 111 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,240 that's going to shake those numbers up in those proportions. 112 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,880 But a general custom home and a custom home neighborhood 113 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,480 somewhere in the suburbs, you know of any semi, semi big 114 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,320 neighbor or city, yeah, that 20% benchmark is is a really good 115 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,280 rule of thumb. So great point. 116 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,080 That's a great point though. If you're going to be in an 117 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,440 urban area where you have a tear down and you're paying a lot of 118 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,760 money for a piece of land, it's a fine balance of OK, well, I 119 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,480 don't want if that's 20%, you don't want your home to be 120 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,520 worth, if you could even afford it, 5-6 million when every other 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,080 home around you is worth a million or two, right. 122 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,400 Be within reason of the other. So again, not a hard and fast 123 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,120 rule. It's going to vary significantly 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,120 based off of the market you're in, where you're looking, but 125 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,960 predominantly on where we build being in the the Hill Country of 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Texas and in the the suburbs where you know acre lots, 2 acre 127 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,640 lots, 3 acre lots even smaller than that, that 20% is the 128 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,240 number that comes to comes to mind. 129 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,160 Yeah, absolutely. And that's a good distinction 130 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,720 too, that if you're in the city, yeah, of course it's going to be 131 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,880 higher. If you're out in the in the 132 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,480 rural areas outside of the city, then it could be very well 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,760 lower, right. But you also may be looking at 134 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,400 more land and like you said, something to definitely keep in 135 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,760 mind is that you don't want to be building a 2345 million 136 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,480 dollar home in a neighborhood that only supports homes in the 137 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,520 800 to $1,000,000 range, right? You're going to be out building 138 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,040 the neighborhood and it's a bad decision. 139 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,440 So anyways, yeah, that's quick notes on land. 140 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,240 So after land, so you've got your budget identified, you've 141 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,160 potentially started working with a local realtor. 142 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,240 We recommend, you know, try to find the best realtor in the 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,280 area. They can be a huge asset, a a 144 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,160 not so good realtor can also be a liability for your land search 145 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,960 and they could also talk you into a piece of land that's not 146 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,680 in your best interest, but it is in theirs and you know it. 147 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,280 It could be a bad deal. So before you sign any contracts 148 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,320 with purchase of a land or a lot or piece of land, we absolutely 149 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,960 recommend that you need to be vetting builders and starting to 150 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,640 narrow down your builder list. Now as you've got that narrowed 151 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,960 down, this is the next step. You need to find your builder 152 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,600 that you feel you can trust to build your dream home on that 153 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,600 lot that you're seriously considering and about to close 154 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,760 on. Any builder that's reputable and 155 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,600 in your area can give you valuable insights on land in 156 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,880 that area. A realtor doesn't build homes, 157 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,240 just like most builders don't sell real estate, you know, like 158 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,280 Realtors do. So it goes back and forth and 159 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,960 it's they're not interchangeable. 160 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,000 So don't take your realtor's opinion on what's a good lot for 161 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,640 a custom home built that takes a builder to tell you what that 162 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,480 is, right? So there may be a solid rock 163 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,320 underneath your lot, or it may be on bad soil, or there may be 164 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,120 other things that you're not aware of, but your builder is. 165 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,520 So definitely a good idea to get your builders insight before you 166 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:12,840 close on that lot. I I can't stress this enough. 167 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:18,600 I mean I think that talking to builders even if you haven't 168 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,480 formally selected a builder to to get you all the way to the 169 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,600 finish line with a with your custom home is really important. 170 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,680 Steven. We can't stress enough that the 171 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:36,440 the delays and unexpected cost that that we have seen both 172 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,280 we've experienced personally in our business but also in talking 173 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,200 to other builders on people getting too far down the road 174 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,280 without a builder and then they have to go back and do some work 175 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,360 all over again because something didn't didn't work right or hey 176 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,800 this isn't going to on paper this looks good but when a 177 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,000 builder gets involved, hey that's not feasible when we 178 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,080 build it or hey the house can't sit this way because you have a 179 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,240 big drainage Creek in the in here that's not shown on paper, 180 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,800 right. So the sooner you get a builder 181 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,560 involved, I think the smoother the process is going to be. 182 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:13,120 We can't stress that enough. You you can't bring in a 183 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,600 builder. Soon enough, Absolutely. 184 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:16,560 Absolutely. Yep. 185 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,160 Good good additions there. And then once you feel like 186 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,200 you've got your land locked in, you've got your builder stamp of 187 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,880 approval on that land and you feel good about the builder that 188 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,240 you selected. Which if you're not sure how to 189 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,080 select a builder, we've done at least one episode. 190 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,760 I know of maybe even more that where we've talked about how to 191 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,880 select a custom home builder for your new build. 192 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,680 So definitely go back through our previous episodes and and 193 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:44,120 listen to those. But you've got your land, you've 194 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,040 got your builder, you've addressed your budget with your 195 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,040 builder, and that's when it's time to rope in an architect. 196 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,880 So you start working with an architect and probably even an 197 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,000 interior designer for most cases. 198 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,760 Custom homes take an architect, a designer, a builder, a whole 199 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,800 team of people. But this is where you want to 200 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,920 start working with that design team to really start to 201 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,800 customize your lot, to fit the home that you want. 202 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,120 And you need all the needs and wants in that home and within 203 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,440 your budget. So yeah, that's definitely 204 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,960 something that the architect will help you with. 205 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,560 The designer will help you with in the builder as well, you 206 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:25,280 know. So don't think that you can get 207 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,080 through all this stuff without a builder, because the builder can 208 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,400 put pricing to all this stuff. They're going to be the ones who 209 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,800 can match your budget with your dreams. 210 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,320 Any insights there? Any input? 211 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,680 Anything I missed? Yeah, I think that it can be 212 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:45,800 challenging for for homeowners at this stage to say, well, how 213 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,880 do I choose a builder when I don't know how much this is 214 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,200 going to cost. You told me to have a budget. 215 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,840 Well, I have a budget, but sometimes it's that chicken or 216 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,720 egg approach like, hey, I feel like I'm getting ahead of myself 217 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,280 and there's there's different orders you can do this. 218 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,240 But again, pull a builder in as early as you can, ideally before 219 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,480 the design phase because that builder will help you. 220 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,920 We talk about the term value engineer, but the, the the 221 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,040 builder will help you make sure that you stay within that 222 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,560 budget, right. Early on professional builders 223 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,280 including ourselves, we talk in ranges, right. 224 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,760 It's going to be, it's a very fair question to ask early on, 225 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,080 what's your price per square foot? 226 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,720 OK. Well, that's that's a, that's a 227 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,560 question that I would ask, but it's a very, very challenging 228 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:31,360 question to answer early on. Now we can give you that, but 229 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,920 it's going to be a range because there's just so many variables 230 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,200 and we can't. It is our job to do our best to 231 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,800 not misguide your expectations. So you want to make sure that's 232 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,760 in line. And the other thing I would say 233 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,600 is you know you you're working with a builder and an architect 234 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,960 and most if not all builders that that we've dealt with or 235 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,400 have have experience with at this point you're not, you're 236 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,080 not liable or tied to again building that home with them. 237 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,840 You can this. These are just all steps in that 238 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,000 pre construction process. So you know if something goes 239 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,520 sideways or unfortunately something goes the way you 240 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,960 didn't expect it to it's not like you're just in this this 241 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,480 the the the state of an agreement that you don't like 242 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,200 and and you can't get out right. That's all too often we we hear 243 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,400 about the nightmare stories and and you know you just want to 244 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,440 make sure that everybody's protected and and there's 245 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,480 there's ways out at the right times. 246 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:29,120 Yeah, I really like that you brought that up that just 247 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,240 because you've consulted with the builder for these 248 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,040 preliminary or pre construction tasks or items throughout the 249 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,640 design process. You're absolutely right. 250 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:42,120 Don't feel like you're locked into them as long as you have 251 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,920 not signed any building contracts with them. 252 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,600 They may have had you sign design contracts or pre 253 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,520 construction contracts of some sort, but just be very aware of 254 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,400 what you're signing and don't sign a full build contract 255 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,360 before you get to the starting point of that build. 256 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,080 So you know that's why we implement a a design contract 257 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,960 where we'll help you work with the architect and the designer 258 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,880 and come up with a realistic budget for everything that you 259 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,280 want and help tie all those pieces together. 260 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,120 Then we have our PBA process which actually leads us into our 261 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,640 next point. PBA for US stands for a 262 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,480 preliminary building agreement basically that's going to cover 263 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,640 everything that's in the pre construction process. 264 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,320 So we're going to take that plan in those selections that you 265 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,160 made. We're going to take those all 266 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,400 the way through engineering, get them basically all the way to 267 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,800 the point where we have a fully buildable floor plan set. 268 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,520 We've got engineering, we've got design, we've got budgets, we've 269 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,040 got timelines, we've got everything we need to give our 270 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,520 clients an accurate estimate of how long is this home going to 271 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,560 take to build and what's it going to look like and how much 272 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,600 is it going to cost. You know, and those are all 273 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,440 things that any builder that our listeners are are talking to, 274 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,400 they should definitely ask those questions and make sure that 275 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,080 they're getting those answers that they need. 276 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,440 So yeah, that pre construction process is the next step. 277 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,680 After you've worked with an architect, you've come up with 278 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,600 the design, you've had your builders input. 279 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,800 Everybody feels good about those preliminary numbers or those 280 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,760 estimates. Like Brian said, the ballpark 281 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,960 estimates you move forward with the pre construction process and 282 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,800 that like we mentioned is a lot of different things, but 283 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,680 engineering is the big one. And you know after the builder 284 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,280 has all that information, then they can put that into a formal 285 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,520 proposal. And in in our case, we give a 286 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,200 fixed price contract at that point. 287 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,880 So we can give the homeowners, future homeowners or you know 288 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,840 buyers at this point the exact cost that it's going to cost 289 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,760 them to build that particular home on their particular lot. 290 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Of course that fluctuates as change orders occur or other 291 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,600 unknown and unforeseen circumstances happen, but it's 292 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,000 all in the contract. So anyways, yeah, that's the pre 293 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,560 construction phase. And then, yeah, after that, go 294 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,560 and do that. Then we get. 295 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,720 To the fun stuff we go right into, ideally we can the the our 296 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,360 preliminary building agreements can be structured many different 297 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,880 ways. It could include permitting if 298 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,360 you say we're ready to go. But really what we often times 299 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,840 do is get everything up to the permitting phase and then 300 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,720 present you with a fixed price building contract proposal. 301 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,920 And at that point if you say, hey, we're ready to proceed, 302 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,160 then we would begin immediately with permits, ACC, architectural 303 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:29,480 control committee, architectural review board approvals because 304 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,920 at that point we're ready to start building. 305 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,000 So you know all the while you're working on financing which we 306 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,280 can guide you on that that can either if you have cash 307 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,760 obviously that makes it a little more simple. 308 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,120 We would just have a draw schedule in the contract of when 309 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,680 we would we'd pull the money but working with the bank that's 310 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,080 very common as well. And you'd be you'd be basically 311 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,640 getting to the starting line about the same time we would 312 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,200 working on your the the construction loan and things 313 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,680 like that. So then we get to the fun part 314 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,280 permitting and and actually building. 315 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,320 So that's where you get to see your your dream come to life and 316 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,200 it can be a long, long process. Up to that point Steven, we've 317 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:11,400 seen some of our projects take 40 to 50% of the entire time 318 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,400 since people start talking to us to when they close on the home 319 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,960 can be prep, work preparation, pre construction work, moving 320 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:25,880 dirt building retaining walls, doing lot cuts where we have 321 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,240 rock in the grade is too steep. So we've we've seen that happen 322 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,080 where 30 to 50% can seem crazy. It it depends significantly on 323 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,080 the project, but 30 to 50% of the time with the builder could 324 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,800 be pre construction, then the rest is actual construction of 325 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,360 building a home to to the actual closing date and then movement 326 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:47,320 date. Yeah, that's a fantastic point. 327 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,600 And I think that's a a really good percentage for listeners to 328 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,720 keep in their head as they're taking steps down this custom 329 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,560 home journey. Yeah, I mean I had it broken to 330 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,960 me at one point. You know, it was very early on 331 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,320 and it was one of the first custom homes that I built. 332 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,200 I got all the way to the point where we were about to start the 333 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,920 actual building and one of my mentors said congratulations, 334 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,280 that's 40 to 50% of the work right there. 335 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,240 And I was thinking, oh, OK, cool. 336 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,760 You know, that seemed like a lot of work and it was, you know, 337 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,800 it's like you mentioned it's 30 to 50% of the build. 338 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,840 It's just getting to the starting point where you can 339 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,560 break ground on that lot or get it ready for your foundation. 340 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,600 And so from there, I mean, hopefully all the pieces are in 341 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,000 place that the rest of the build goes fairly smoothly. 342 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,720 You know, of course, there will always be Rd. bumps and things 343 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,560 throughout the build. But yeah, I mean that 344 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,560 preliminary planning process is so important and doing it 345 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,920 properly and doing it right is it makes the rest of the build 346 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,440 and the whole experience so much better. 347 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,360 Yep, Yep. Couldn't agree more. 348 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,760 And you know, I think it just reminds me Steven, that no 349 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,440 matter what builder you choose, understand the custom home 350 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,560 building is a journey. There are things that are going 351 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,120 to go wrong, right. This is a major project and most 352 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,920 and with most people the largest asset that they that they 353 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,120 purchase in their lifetime that they get to see come to life in 354 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,520 in construction, things go wrong. 355 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,800 But often times many of those things that go wrong can be 356 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,640 fixed. They will be fixed and and if 357 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,880 you're working with a professional builder, you get 358 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,080 through it in a lot of those hiccups you don't even remember 359 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:33,600 after after closing because hey, it was there, but it's been 360 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,880 corrected and we're very happy with the finished product, 361 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,560 right. So no, no two homes are built 362 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,440 the same, even if they're identical, right. 363 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:48,320 And so it's it's not not to say that oh every builder out there 364 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,680 is is bad. It's just it's just part of 365 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,800 construction that that's the nature of the industry of 366 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,000 construction, you name it residential, commercial, 367 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,640 industrial. That's just how it works. 368 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,440 And so I think people educating themselves through podcasts like 369 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,720 ours and others before they get into it just helps them with the 370 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,200 the proper expectations and allows them to set their 371 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,960 expectations in a better place so that they can just enjoy the 372 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,920 the build. That make it more enjoyable 373 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,560 throughout the the entire process. 374 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,680 Absolutely, absolutely. And I like what you said there 375 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,720 that you know it's there's so many different phases of the 376 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,200 build in itself once the home actually starts construction 377 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,880 that yeah, if you've chosen the right builder that you feel like 378 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,720 you can truly trust, it should be an enjoyable process. 379 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,040 From there, of course there's going to be hiccups and other 380 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,600 things along the way that Run foreseen, But overall it should 381 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,360 be an exciting process to watch your new home come to life. 382 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,160 And there's fun phases where the home seems like it's making 383 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,560 leaps and bounds of building. And then there's also phases 384 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,000 where it seems like nothing's going on. 385 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,120 But we can assure you, as a builder, there are. 386 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,400 There are things going on for the most part, you know. 387 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,360 Now if you've got a builder that the house is sitting for weeks 388 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:04,040 or months on end with very little progress, then something 389 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,520 else is going on. But you know, the home is in 390 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,760 sheetrock phase. It's not common for sheetrock to 391 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,960 take 3456 weeks, depending on the size of the home. 392 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,760 And that's from the time they start hanging it. 393 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,400 They can hang the sheetrock in anywhere from a couple days to a 394 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,880 week. And then it's a lot of tape and 395 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,880 float and dry and tape and float and dry. 396 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,800 And so you get my point that, you know, there's ugly duckling 397 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,760 phases of the home. There's times where it seems 398 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,280 like nothing's going on, but if you've truly picked a builder 399 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,040 that you can trust, it should be an enjoyable process and you 400 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,320 should know that your build is being taken care of as it needs 401 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,520 to. Now, I do say you know, as a 402 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,800 client you still want to make sure that everything that has 403 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,080 been discussed with your builder is being implemented. 404 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,080 So if they've told you things that they're going to do and 405 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,520 they're doing it, great. If they're not, have a 406 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,760 discussion with them. But also, all the selections 407 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,920 that you've made, you've got to keep in mind that this is your 408 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,320 your home. This is your opportunity to make 409 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,800 sure it turns out the way you want it. 410 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,080 If there's a change order or something different you want to 411 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,240 see, feel free to speak up. You know, that's definitely not 412 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,880 uncommon in custom home building. 413 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,160 And any good builder would want you to, you know, get everything 414 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,480 that you want in this new custom home of yours. 415 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,680 So ask your builder and talk through those kind of things. 416 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,960 Good communication is key. And that goes both ways. 417 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,840 Yep, Yep. For sure. 418 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,680 And really, that's the fun part of it. 419 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,440 I mean, to wrap it up, you get into the warranty phase, which 420 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,520 is really important with all professional builders. 421 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,840 There's going to be things that need tweaking after you move in, 422 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,000 right? Nobody's ever lived in that 423 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,640 house. There's things that, hey, this 424 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,560 is a little bit off, there's adjustments that need to be 425 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,120 made. That happens in 100% of the 426 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:43,480 houses that have ever been built. 427 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,400 The important thing is that you have a builder that is happy to 428 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,560 come back that is wants to make sure that you're beyond 429 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,320 satisfied and just gets those things right. 430 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,320 So yes, it can be challenging where you get into some Gray 431 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760 area of hey, we can cover this or we can't cover that. 432 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,600 So there's there's a whole separate discussion on on 433 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,680 warranty to make sure that it's within reason and and fair to 434 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,600 both sides. Obviously if you say hey there's 435 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,400 there's a hole in my wall and you put and you or the one and 436 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,120 the homeowner was the one who did it, but you want us to 437 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:16,400 replace the whole wall. You know there's there's 438 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,520 obviously the the the warranty requests have to be within 439 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,160 reason and then that's a whole whole other separate session 440 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,600 that we could talk about for days. 441 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,960 But you know something that is important, it's important for 442 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,440 the homeowner and that the expectations on the warranty 443 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,720 phase are just as clear as everything else throughout the 444 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,440 build of what what is covered, what's not before you get to 445 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,560 that that point in time. Yep, Yep, for sure. 446 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,080 And there's things that are warrantful. 447 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,200 There's also things that fall back on the homeowner as 448 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,640 homeowner maintenance, as we say. 449 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,640 So don't be surprised if your builder isn't covering 100% of 450 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,000 things that happen after closing on your home. 451 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,840 And it's not a it's most times not a bumper to bumper warranty 452 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,560 as people like to say. So you know there are outside 453 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,760 factors and Mother Nature and other things that require some 454 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,400 homeowner maintenance and and that's exactly why it's called 455 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,440 that. But a good builder, like Brian 456 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,000 said, is going to try to do everything they can to make sure 457 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:15,720 you, the client, are overly satisfied with everything that 458 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,560 they're doing after closing and with your new home, because 459 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,160 that's what's most important is that you're comfortable and 460 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,680 excited and settled into your new home as quickly and as best 461 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,240 as possible. So yeah, Brian, what do you say, 462 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,560 let's, let's wrap this up. Let's run through this list just 463 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,600 one more time, real quick, just to recap it. 464 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,080 So I mean, how about you take us through it just starting from 465 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,080 the beginning and maybe one sentence on each thing? 466 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:47,200 So it starts with with a the setting your expectations on a a 467 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,560 budget and getting your own thoughts together, collected 468 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,880 together in terms of wants needs and your financial picture, 469 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,960 right #1 #2 considering land, where do you want to build, 470 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,680 what's your, what's your overall cost that that your, that the 471 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,800 land is going to be right. We use that 20% rule of thumb 472 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:13,080 very, very, very wide but very wide range could be there but 473 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,000 20% is is what we threw out and you pull in a builder as early 474 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,120 as you can right number around. At the same time you're looking 475 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,760 at a bit at builders that you can start to engage really more 476 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,960 from a consultative approach. Not so much of, hey, I want you 477 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:32,120 to build my house, but beginning to earn to to trust them to 478 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,840 enjoy working with them and building that partnership. 479 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,040 That's essentially what that is and saying hey, if it doesn't 480 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,240 work, you know you're you're not tied to them. 481 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,520 You can pivot before you actually start construction. 482 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Next would be working either with that builder or with their 483 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,240 preferred architects or or wherever you're guided in terms 484 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,480 of hey, I got to start putting my thoughts on paper and that 485 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,480 also is of course in line with my budget. 486 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,200 So getting that getting that plan set together with a with an 487 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,960 architect and then the the big bulk of the pre construction 488 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,320 work even though there's a lot that's been done by this point 489 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,360 is, is really what we call the preliminary building agreement. 490 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,640 But that's where all the rest of the work is done in terms of 491 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,200 really just trying to get organized on this project before 492 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,800 it starts. So the engineering piece, the 493 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,640 the, the timeline, the the rest of the budget, getting things 494 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,680 organized for the signing of a contract, right, whether it's 495 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,720 fixed price or cost plus every builder has some form or former 496 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,920 fashion of a preliminary building agreement at least the 497 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,360 professional builders do, right. It may not call it that, but 498 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:38,240 there's other prep work that has to be done whether it's internal 499 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,800 or in, in in line with something that they expect of you. 500 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,600 But there's there's there's quite a bit of work there that 501 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,040 that needs to be done early on whether it's part of APBA or 502 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,920 part of the beginning of a building contract. 503 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,320 So just get get some clarity around that with the builders 504 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,760 you're talking to and then permitting of course if that's 505 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,200 required or or architectural review committee approvals based 506 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,320 off of where you're building if there's any approvals that are 507 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,960 needed with cities, municipalities, municipalities, 508 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,600 HO as things like that. And then from there, it's, we're 509 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,320 only by that point we haven't done anything, but we're we've 510 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,760 done a lot. We're like we said 3050% of the 511 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,840 way done and we get to build, you get to see the house come to 512 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,920 life and move in on your closing date and then get into the the 513 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,280 warranty phase, right. So again, really important to 514 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,560 understand the phases. There's a lot more underneath 515 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,040 this, but you know we want people to understand the flow 516 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,720 because time and time again we talked to people all over the 517 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,360 place that are just overwhelmed on where do I start, right and 518 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,440 it's a very good question. I would have that question if I 519 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,360 was not in the industry. It would be the first question I 520 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:49,000 would ask. Yeah, fantastic recap. 521 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,880 I think you definitely said it well and it's a good way to wrap 522 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,840 this up. So thank you for that and hope 523 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,320 the listeners got some good value out of this episode today. 524 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,120 Like you said, this is really a good baseline for what people 525 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:08,200 need to follow in order to turn that concept of a dream home 526 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,280 this year into an actual reality. 527 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,480 So let's, like you said at the beginning of the episode, let's 528 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,760 carry this energy and continue it through the rest of 2024 and 529 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,240 let's make it a fantastic year. Let's build some houses and 530 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,600 hopefully our listeners will do the same. 531 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,520 Yep. And what I would ask of the 532 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,520 listeners with the energy in mind is if there's any feedback 533 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,120 you have on what you want to hear more of, we'd love to hear 534 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:33,600 from you. If there's anything else that we 535 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,760 didn't clarify very well or you want us to dive into that that 536 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,160 that will feed our energy and and get us excited to, to really 537 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,040 nail a topic that maybe we haven't covered or we've missed 538 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,600 or just need to do a better job of of addressing. 539 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,880 So please, we want to hear from you. 540 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,240 Yeah, that's a really good point. 541 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,000 And please do, I mean, we're not just saying that. 542 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,720 We really do want to hear from our listeners. 543 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,760 And the best way that you guys can do that is to go to our 544 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,560 website. We're www.brevenhomes.com. 545 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,920 That's BREVEN homes.com and we've got our contact info on 546 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,760 there. So of course this is building 547 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,920 with Brevin, but that's our building company's website can 548 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,000 reach out to us through there or drop comments in whatever 549 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,000 platform you're listening on and we'll be sure to take a look at 550 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,560 those. But yeah, we're excited to 551 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,120 provide more valuable content to share and hope you guys find 552 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,120 value in it as well. Let's make it a good year. 553 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,240 Awesome. Thanks, Brian.