1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,240 Yeah. Put the team on my back. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,040 Welcome to the Backpacking Podcast brought to you by 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,880 Outdoor Vitals, makers of Performance First Ultra Light 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Gear, and with me always the king of Kentucky backpacking and 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,960 the man who knows a little something about prescribed 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,920 burns, That would be my friend Jeremiah Stringer. 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,760 Yeah, dude, I'm trying to avoid the prescribed burns. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Couple weeks ago, dude, they, they like sent out a message to 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,400 everybody around here where I live in Kentucky, and they're 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,200 like, hey, we're burning up 2500 acres of like forest land and 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,160 Daniel Boone National Forest. Be on the lookout because smoke 12 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:44,160 is coming your way. Sure enough, dude, noon the 13 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,840 smoke rolled in. Ironically, I was grilling out 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,040 that day, so I got to enjoy some of the smoke. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,000 Do you have a smoker? I don't have a smoker. 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,360 So now you see you had a you had a free smoker for a day. 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,800 I had. A yes, the bacon, it tasted. 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,760 Dude, I done corn. I done burger patties. 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,560 I done some big old thick bacon from Kroger. 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,320 I got the brown sugar cinnamon and I got the black pepper. 21 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:09,640 Oh, my mouse water. And just think I got one of 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,400 those big old black pepper and cheddar sausages. 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Yeah. And I got some free smoke 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,840 flavor. But dude, I'm headed out this 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,120 weekend and I called the Ranger station. 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,160 I said, hey, I'm going to be in that area. 27 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:24,880 Can you tell me are there any prescribed burns? 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,480 Because I really want 2 questions answered. 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,480 One, if I go out there, am I going to burn alive, me and all 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,720 my buddies. And two, if we don't burn alive, 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,440 are we going to get smoked out? Because we're, we live so close 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,280 to the lake, it just like settles around the lake and you 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,120 know, it, it just sits there. It just sits there for like 24 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,600 hours and I cannot be outside in there for 24 hours. 35 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:49,840 That would be miserable. But let me say one other thing, 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,840 John, actually a quick word from our sponsor. 37 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,160 It is here, bro. I'm committing right now to at 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,160 least one night using a tent. You know, I'm an avid hammock 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,680 camper and we may argue, we may argue later about this, but I am 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,800 committed to trying out the new CERT tent brought to you by 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,720 outdoorvitals.com. It is, I believe their first 42 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,640 ever trekking pole tent. 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We'll leave a link in the 49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,040 description where you can buy it. 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,320 And another thing, I signed up for the first time ever for the 51 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,920 OV, the Outdoor Vitals 100 Mile Challenge. 52 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:49,160 And John, why don't you tell me about that? 53 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,480 That's right, that this is a really kind of a cool thing. 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,400 I've got a list of all the things that you get if you do 55 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,520 the 100 Mile Challenge. You get obviously your 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,920 registration to the event. You get a free Altitude Son 57 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:04,760 hoodie, a free OV-100 Mile Challenge T-shirt, admission to 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,760 exclusive Facebook groups and communities, access to live 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Q&A's and guest speaker calls. The 100 Mile Framework Workbook 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,200 printed out like this is awesome workbook that helps you train to 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,600 get ready for that, access to digital course modules and 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,480 resource links. When you finish, you get the 100 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,640 mile finisher hat and metal, plus you get the 100 Mile Event 64 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:30,120 Challenge stickers. All of this is a value of over 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,000 $400.00 and guess what? You're getting it for $68. 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Oh my gosh. And by the way, if you never 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,720 heard of the OV-100 Mile challenge, John, would you tell 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,360 everybody in just a couple sentences, explain it like 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,720 you're explaining it to your grandma, exactly what this 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,240 challenge is? Grandma, you're going to do 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:53,680 something absolutely insane and walk 100 miles in the woods. 72 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,720 How long? 100 miles. 73 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,680 What do you mean I mean? From start to finish, what's the 74 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,880 window of time that you have to complete the 100? 75 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Do I have to do it straight? Do I need to go do a through 76 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,760 hike? Or no the the windows from July 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,640 1st through September 30th. You've got plenty of time to do 78 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,960 this hike. Plenty of time, but you don't 79 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,120 have plenty of time to sign up. But March is the last month to 80 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,040 sign up, so sign up now. And Grandma, here's the thing, 81 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,880 if you do it, this is better than winning a Grammy Award. 82 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,520 I couldn't agree more with that. You could win the World Series, 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,640 it won't mean to as much to you as as doing the 100 mile 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,080 challenge. I totally agree. 85 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,720 So check out outdoorvitals.com links for both of those in the 86 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,880 description if you want to sign up for the OV-100 mile 87 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,040 challenge. Or check out the new Cirque 88 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,280 tent. It's held up by trekking poles, 89 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,520 which will save you some weight because then you don't have to 90 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,000 carry tent poles with you. I'm looking forward to that, 91 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,120 John. And here's the thing. 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,360 It's one of the most interesting things about it is the fact that 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,000 it's a it's a trekking pole tent that weighs as little as it 94 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,720 does, and it's not made of dyneema. 95 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,040 In that insane. It's a it's a stretch resistant 96 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,160 polyester that they use and it's pretty cool, man. 97 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,720 It's really, really cool. So I'm I'm excited to hear more 98 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,600 about it. I know Devin, who is already in 99 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,760 the is in here today. He has gotten his hands on one. 100 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,640 I'm sure, man, there's a lot of people in here. 101 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,880 And I'm going to be honest with you, there's so many comments 102 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,440 right now. I don't think they're, they're 103 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 coming hot and heavy today. Hot and heavy. 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,080 So today guys, we're we're to do something, guys and ladies, 105 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,600 we're going to do something a little different. 106 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,840 We are going to do something called Trail court. 107 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,480 Oh. Yeah, that's right. 108 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,040 Trail Court and the way Trail Court's going to work is I am 109 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,480 the bad cop or the mean lawyer who is the, I guess you would 110 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:45,720 say the prosecutor, Jeremiah is the good cop or the defendant 111 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,640 and what he's going to do is he's going to defend certain 112 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,840 pieces of gear. I am going to go against those 113 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:55,760 pieces of gear. Now, the first couple we already 114 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,840 have strong opinions against. One's coming up that we both 115 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,360 have an agreeing opinion on, but I'm going to have to change my 116 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,480 mind to fight with Jeremiah. So this should be fascinating to 117 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,000 see how this goes. So, Jeremiah, let's start off 118 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:18,240 right away with deodorant. Oh, OK, so let's argue in in 119 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,200 favor of deodorant. That should be pretty easy for 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,800 me. But I will tell you ma'am, I'm 121 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,520 packing for this trip. The packing has begun and one of 122 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,280 the things in my first not I guess you wouldn't call it first 123 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:31,280 aid kit, my hygiene kit toothbrush. 124 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:35,400 I got a little miniature hair brush like to keep it nice neat 125 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,520 with deodorant. And if I'm through I can, I 126 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,760 typically would throw it in the trash. 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,680 But man, all these trips I've been taking that are weekend 128 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,160 warrior style, I love being clean on the way out there. 129 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,280 And to help get me a little refreshed in the morning, you 130 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:55,800 wipe off with baby wipes. Normally when I get up, I take a 131 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,080 shower, but that's kind of impossible out there. 132 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,960 So I just use baby wipes, take me a little baby wipe bath and 133 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,840 then I apply deodorant. And a little pro tip, if you go 134 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:11,960 to Walmart go to the the travel section and they have mini sized 135 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,960 everything so I get one of those tiny little deodorants. 136 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,120 Now unfortunately it only lasts 3 or 4 trips but I put that on 137 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,800 every morning and it just makes me feel a little bit better 138 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,440 about myself and my friends don't have to smell me while I'm 139 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,960 in the woods. It weighs almost nothing and so 140 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,320 I think it's a valuable asset to have whenever you're in the 141 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,360 woods on a multi day backpacking trip. 142 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,200 So add deodorant to your hygiene kit with those baby wipes. 143 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,280 So basically let's just start this off by saying it's, it's 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,680 obvious that the deodorant doesn't actually do anything. 145 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,480 It's just to give you a security blanket. 146 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,800 So you're packing your fears. So we'll start with that. 147 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,440 Today we're packing our fears by bringing deodorant, something 148 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,160 that realistically, after a weekend of backpacking and 149 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,800 possibly doing multiple miles, where you're going to sweat and 150 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,160 you're going to smell anyways. Now you don't just smell like 151 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,760 sweat, but you smell like sweat and deodorant. 152 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,960 And on top of it, you're adding more stuff into a hygiene kit 153 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,200 that's probably packed pretty tight already. 154 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,040 It's also going to add ounces to your pack. 155 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,440 And everybody knows that ounces equal pounds at the end of the 156 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,040 day. And so it's just adding more 157 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,400 weight to something that really is unnecessary. 158 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,880 And so I'm going to go on out on a limb and say it it does a few 159 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,520 things that I think are -1 it adds weight. 2, it takes up 160 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,600 space. And three, it's more money 161 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,880 you're spending. I'm just going to be honest with 162 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,840 you. If I don't use deodorant over 163 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,400 the weekend, that's money in my pocket because it's deodorant 164 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,000 I'm not using when I'm at home and I'm saving money. 165 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,080 Plus, the reality is I already stink and I can try all I want 166 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,800 to put on deodorant. And unless you're putting 167 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,000 deodorant on your chest, your back, your crotch, your legs, 168 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,840 you, you're going to smell bad. There's just no way around 169 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,240 smelling bad when you're in the back country. 170 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,840 As a matter of fact, we call that embracing the suck. 171 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:11,400 So I would say personally, I think deodorant is basically a 172 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,800 useless item when you go backpacking. 173 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,960 OK, let us know in the comments who are you in favor of? 174 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Are you pro deodorant? Are you on Jeremiah's team? 175 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,000 Because the defense rests their case well. 176 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Or Ben Ben McMillan agrees and thoughts that Jeremiah should 177 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,480 carry deodorant. That's why he's been backpacking 178 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:39,160 with me. Before he knows, Yep, he agrees 179 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,800 that you need to bring deodorant. 180 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,840 Yeah, don't worry about everybody else. 181 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,080 Here's here's one for you. Here's one Jeremiah, should you 182 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,880 bring butt deodorant for sticky butt? 183 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,960 For stinky butt, Well. I don't get stinky butt because 184 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,320 first of all I have the bidet, the pocket bidet so you can rent 185 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,240 your tush off after you do your business. 186 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,720 Then you can clean it up with the baby wipe. 187 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,440 And then I do anti monkey butt and if you haven't heard of it, 188 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,800 it's like Gold Bond but better. I don't know about that. 189 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,200 I don't know about the better gold bonds. 190 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Pretty awesome. Well. 191 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,000 Gold Bond is pretty awesome except for whatever that 192 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,520 medicated. You know the medicated label 193 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,960 they put on there? Yeah, they should mark that out 194 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,360 and put burns cause. Oh, it's not burns. 195 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:25,960 It's like a bunch of little angels blowing all over your 196 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,800 skin. OK, well maybe you haven't had 197 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,200 the stanky butt before, because I have the raw stanky butt and 198 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,680 I'm telling you, big black sharpie, mark it out and rot 199 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:38,400 burns it. Don't burn you up. 200 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,360 Are you serious? No, not at all. 201 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,000 Wow, so you think it's like a good tingle? 202 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:46,440 Yeah, yeah, I think it is. I really like it. 203 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,520 We might have to agree to disagree. 204 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Now. I love Chicken Littles. 205 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,840 Trex's comment on here, he says everyone else is. 206 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,640 They're at armpit level with Jeremiah. 207 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,280 And I will tell you, I got a funny picture with Miyagi on the 208 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,280 trail, and I'm giving him a hug. We're about four days deep into 209 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,960 a backpacking trip. He's tucked right in my armpit. 210 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,200 Man, what? Can you do? 211 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,920 And I will tell you what's funny is on that trip I brought an 212 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,400 electric razor and I carried it the whole time. 213 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,880 And every day we would shave off a little bit more of the other 214 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,880 person's either beard or mustache or eyebrow. 215 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,360 Just kidding. I wouldn't let him touch my 216 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,960 eyebrows. Oh, I saw. 217 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,840 I saw your facial hair, bro. You were way nicer. 218 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Why were you so nice? Well, I wasn't. 219 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Expecting you don't get to see what the person's doing, they're 220 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,000 like sit down and let me so you start off my. 221 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Who were you backpacking with? Some of my best friends but. 222 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,400 But who in particular? Who in particular? 223 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,120 Well, I had Mr. Backpack with Jason, Sir. 224 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,080 But who in particular can you not? 225 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,880 There we go. You can't trust Miyagi on a 226 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,000 trail, buddy. Dude a different trip we were on 227 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,920 I got woke up about 5:00 AM to him with AI think he had a 228 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,400 Bluetooth speaker or a call and he had like a howling wolf right 229 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,280 outside my my hammock. 5:00 in the morning, little wake up call 230 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,600 right next to your head. Man you can't trust and put pine 231 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,280 cones in my backpack. Rocks. 232 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,840 He loaded my backpack up with rocks and I didn't discover them 233 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,160 till the end of the day when the hiking was done. 234 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,440 He threw a horseshoe at me and then utter. 235 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,320 That's good luck. That's good luck. 236 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,280 John So I'm just telling you, you don't trust me, Hoggy on 237 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,000 trail, man. I'm just saying, hey, there was 238 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,520 another comment that was that was I think it's a great 239 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,480 comment. Check this one out. 240 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,880 It says heavy deodorant on the morning shower of the first day. 241 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,560 I head out on trailhead. Trailhead. 242 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,760 But don't pack it in your backpack. 243 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,800 Well you can pack it in your backpack. 244 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,360 Not to rehash my points but it's so small the travel size don't 245 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,160 bring the big guy and plus those are like $9 for. 246 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Have you seen how much deodorants went up? 247 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,680 Again, that good that you're just doing what I'm saying and 248 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:02,520 here all things outdoors. I think everyone else should 249 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,760 have deodorant. I'm usually OK. 250 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,920 That's right, Jeremy, That's right. 251 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,520 You want to argue another? One, yeah, let's go with another 252 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,600 one. Let's go with another one. 253 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Let's talk Bluetooth speakers. Oh boy, so my job is to be in 254 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,200 favor. Now, should the Should the 255 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,320 prosecution go first this time, or should the defense go first? 256 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,600 Yes, yes, present your case, John. 257 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,400 I would love to refute your points. 258 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,680 I have a feeling that our audience might be on your side 259 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:33,680 on this. I have a feeling I could win 260 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:35,160 this one. Now, the last one's probably 261 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,160 pretty split, but this one I think I can win. 262 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,840 So. So Jeremiah, let's just start 263 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,920 off by saying who wants to be that guy? 264 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,400 And by that guy, I'm talking about that guy who thinks that 265 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,640 what he's doing is really cool. And then he's playing music that 266 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,320 everybody wants to hear. And he's got that speaker blared 267 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,640 as he's walking down the trail. And he's not sure exactly why it 268 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,680 is that everybody's giving him dirty looks every time they walk 269 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:04,560 by him. And then he finally hits that 270 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:08,320 one Karen that's on the trail who looks at him and says, will 271 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,320 you please turn off your speaker? 272 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,280 It's rude. Here's the thing, Jeremiah. 273 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,760 When we go into the woods, I don't go in the woods to hear 274 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,080 whatever music somebody wants to hear. 275 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,680 I don't go into the woods to hear rap, rock, metal. 276 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,680 I don't go, I don't go in the woods for that. 277 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,960 I go in the woods to hear the woods. 278 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,880 I want to hear the birds chirping. 279 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:37,160 I want to hear the the sounds of, of insects flying around 280 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,720 like crickets and things. I I don't want to hear music. 281 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,040 I want to hear wind blowing. I want to hear water along the 282 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,000 streams as I'm hiking. When you bring that kind of 283 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,960 technology out into the woods, we like to call that noise 284 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,080 pollution because it's not like you're wearing headphones where 285 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,640 it's all just on you. No, you're making everybody else 286 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,680 have to listen. It's, it's insensitive. 287 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,080 And Jeremiah, it's just downright rude. 288 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,960 The prosecution rests its case. All right, wow, bro, you're not 289 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,280 ready for this defense. I mean, you got your. 290 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,360 Seat belt on. I hope you got it buckled. 291 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,240 First of all, who needs headphones when you have a 292 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Bluetooth speaker? You can shed that weight right 293 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,920 away. OK, throw those things out. 294 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,800 Second of all, Bluetooth speaker. 295 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,080 You can get the backpacking friendly version of don't. 296 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,080 Don't let John dissuade you here. 297 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,840 You see, he's got in his mind, I think one of those big ones that 298 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,280 you put on your shoulder and you carry down the beach. 299 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,360 I'm talking about the tiny guy. I'm talking about 10 bucks, 12 300 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,360 bucks on Amazon. It clips on right here at the 301 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,280 top of your backpack up above your water bottle. 302 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,840 And you only had if you're walking with it and you have it 303 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,400 on, you only have it on loud enough that you can hear it. 304 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,920 And I'll be honest with you, I typically don't use Bluetooth 305 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,760 speaker while moving. It's only it can't. 306 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:11,360 But I will say for this hypothetical situation that we 307 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,240 will say while you're walking, I'm the defender here, lawyer 308 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,040 practicing. And you only have it loud enough 309 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,880 that you can hear it. It's right here next to your ear 310 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,400 on your shoulder. And when you're coming up past 311 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:27,440 people, then you pause it if you want to be not rude, as John put 312 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,880 it. Second of all, at camp, a lot of 313 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,120 times you're with your friends and they do like the same music 314 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,160 as you. Because as much as we don't like 315 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,760 it, most of us are eating similar foods here in this 316 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,600 culture. Most of us are waking up at 317 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,960 similar times, going to sleep at similar times. 318 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,000 I mean, there's outliers. Course, there's third shifted 319 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,600 all this stuff work for yourself. 320 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,960 But as much, as as much as we don't like it, we are a lot 321 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,840 alike. And so if you're hanging out 322 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:05,240 with your buddies and you all want, oh, I don't know, a little 323 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:12,160 country or a little heavy metal or some Christian rap or, heck, 324 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,760 I don't know, maybe some death metal, then you can blare it at 325 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,680 camp while you're sitting by the fire and the defense rest its 326 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,119 case. Yeah, well, I had to have to put 327 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,359 this on the screen. Back country exposure, but 328 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,640 except Jeremiah sponsored videos with Bluetooth. 329 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:36,800 I think I have, I think 5, four or five sponsored videos of 330 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,560 Bluetooth speakers. You have to defend at this 331 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,120 point. You're gonna lose all of your 332 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:44,960 sponsorships in the future. Yes, yes. 333 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,160 Yes, we got bills to pay here folks, so if you have to sell 334 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,240 out, let me give you some good clean advice. 335 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,400 Bring the Bluetooth speaker. Now there are, I'm seeing two 336 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,440 different messages from Devin on here. 337 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,440 One says hurry up, chorus, unite, but the other one says 338 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,440 fart chorus unite. I'm assuming it's fart chorus is 339 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,360 the correct thing. I don't know why it says hurry 340 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:13,120 up on this other window, but OK. And here's a here's a good one 341 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:14,440 too. On trail, no. 342 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,160 At camp, maybe. Depends on when and where. 343 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,480 And Ben McMillan says the same thing he says on trail, no. 344 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,280 At camp, yes. If everyone agrees and there are 345 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,600 no other camps nearby, that's a big one too. 346 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,000 You don't want to be that that guy that takes off the people 347 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,640 that may have been hiking 27 miles that day and really want 348 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,920 to sleep for the next morning. Yeah, you really do want to be 349 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,840 courteous. And whenever I do those 350 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,840 sponsored ads on my personal channel and it's brought to you 351 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,360 by some Bluetooth speaker company, then I'm always a huge 352 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:50,240 advocate of that. You have to be courteous. 353 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,320 I mean, there's a lot of people, like John said, are out there 354 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,640 and it is, you know, recovery mode, restore mode, you're 355 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,320 really trying to get in touch out there. 356 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,120 You're trying to get away from all the noise that daily life 357 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:04,720 brings. So in all honesty, you do want 358 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,680 to be courteous and that could mean that you need to go through 359 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,160 the camp and be like, well, I guess we're not listening to 360 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,240 music tonight. These people are going to bed. 361 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,920 Also, by the way, big time super chat Derwin off the rails I was. 362 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,560 Just going to say Derwin off the rail sent us a message, said see 363 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,720 you Friday. I guess you guys are going 364 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,920 backpacking together. That's right, 5. 365 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,480 Bucks on us. I opened up the basement to him 366 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,160 if he wants to come on Thursday, but I assume he has to work long 367 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,120 drive for these guys because I'm backpacking close to home this 368 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:37,120 weekend and some of them are driving. 369 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,320 I think the furthest is 8 hours. I say man, I've done it before 370 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,320 too. Sometimes it's tough. 371 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,200 But yeah, shout out Darwin. I can't wait to see you buddy. 372 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,960 So what is the furthest you've driven to go backpacking? 373 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:57,760 I'd say driven, well there's two that's about the same. 374 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,360 We one time we went to Pennsylvania and went to. 375 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Oil Creek. Oil Creek. 376 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Yeah, that's right, Oil Creek. And I think if there was no 377 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,200 snow, because there was like 2 feet of snow at the time, it 378 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,440 probably wouldn't taking as long. 379 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,640 I think that was around 9 hours. But I'm not going to lie, dude, 380 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,880 it was so expensive to fly in anywhere close to Mount Rushmore 381 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,920 when we were doing a loop around it, like a four day loop, that 382 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,200 we had to fly into Denver and drive across multiple states to 383 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,400 get over there. And that that technically could 384 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,280 be the furthest that I drove, but I actually had to fly in and 385 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,120 get a rental and then make the drive. 386 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:34,120 So I got you. Depends on how you ask the 387 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:36,200 question, I suppose. I was going to say the furthest 388 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:42,760 I've driven was Pictured Rocks because that one Jonathan 389 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,480 Woodall just said in jail. Again, no way if if he is, it's 390 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,360 not my fault we took him out. We didn't even put him in jail 391 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:52,720 the first time. No. 392 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,400 So what are you? What are you doing, Jonathan? 393 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:02,240 Anyways, so Long story short, I drove 12 hours to get up to 394 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,960 Pictured Rocks. OK, Yeah. 395 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,800 So that was that was a long drive. 396 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,240 Drove it by myself the first day, drove up there, got a hotel 397 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,240 room the next time, drove back through Wisconsin instead of 398 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,600 going through. What did I drive through to get 399 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,120 there? I drove through Ohio basically, 400 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:17,280 I think. The whole state of Ohio. 401 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,040 Bro, was it Ohio? Yeah, it was Ohio. 402 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,160 Yeah, you had to drive the whole state of Ohio to get to Michigan 403 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,240 from Kentucky. And every time I'm like, this is 404 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,160 so boring, but you know, you're excited, you're wanting to get 405 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,400 there. Speaking of Michigan, we went up 406 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,480 to that hammock hang, remember? Yep. 407 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,920 And we didn't do it. Technically that would be the 408 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,440 furthest drove, but we didn't do any hiking. 409 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,720 It was all lounging, meeting other hammockers. 410 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,280 Oh, we did a two mile hike one day. 411 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Did we? Did 1 little short tiny hike I 412 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,480 think I'm. Going to slip through that, but 413 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,640 I'll tell you one cool thing about that hammock hang I'd 414 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,840 never before seen. You know, they got hot tents. 415 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,720 I didn't know hot hammocks were even a thing. 416 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,720 So that was my first time ever checking out the hot hammock. 417 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,240 Not really applicable right now. We're headed into the throes of 418 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,920 spring, but very cool. I think we're getting rage 419 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,840 messages. I'm telling you y'all better get 420 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,280 with YouTube. This is getting old. 421 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,480 I don't even know I would free him from jail. 422 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,720 But John, honestly, I think you stumbled upon even how you take 423 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,840 people and put people into jail. Last time we looked just to fill 424 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,800 everybody in. If you're a new listener, for 425 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,280 some reason, YouTube just likes to throw some of our members of 426 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,680 the audience in jail sometimes, and then you can't comment. 427 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,440 You can't. Can't do anything, can't 428 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,680 interact. He didn't put him back in there. 429 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,280 Put him back in. Oh my God, how did you get back 430 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520 in there? He must have used a a wordy 431 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,880 dirt. He must have a family friend 432 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,560 somewhere. All right. 433 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,080 Well, you you're now out again, so you can join us again. 434 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,280 That's hilarious, man. Start every show. 435 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,560 Start every show. I am Jonathan Wood on he's out 436 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,240 on bond. Don't mess up. 437 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,720 You're on probation bro all. Right. 438 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,440 I got one more, one more trail court I want to do with you. 439 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,120 It's not on the list. OK, beautiful. 440 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,720 So let me let me look through here one more time and just make 441 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840 sure. I had a pretty comprehensive 442 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,200 list. John had a lot of things to 443 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,920 choose from for Trail Court. He. 444 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Did he did, but the problem is a lot of the ones he has on here, 445 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,200 I I like. And so I'm not necessarily 446 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,280 wanting to not defend the things that I like. 447 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,320 I'll tell you what we'll do one that I do like, OK, It's, it's 448 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,480 going to challenge me. It's going to challenge me to, 449 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,920 it's going to challenge me to like really think about it. 450 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,240 OK, OK, so I'll go first. I. 451 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,480 Guess trail cord on this one will be hammocks. 452 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,480 Oh boy, oh boy, this. Is hard. 453 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,960 I've been defending hammocks for six years. 454 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,280 We might have to. Put a timer up for how long I 455 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,040 can talk about being in favor of hammocks. 456 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,120 Man, I think I can make a master course out of this one, but I'll 457 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,120 keep it short and sweet. OK, Yeah. 458 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:00,960 First of all, the best thing about hammocks, you're not on 459 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,440 the ground. Being a a larger guy, I'm I hate 460 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,400 getting up off the ground and especially, I mean I'm only 33 461 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,280 OK, so got some room to grow, but I know the older that I'm 462 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,680 getting the the more and more and more I dislike getting up 463 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,440 off the ground. Well, you're also 6 foot 3. 464 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,560 Yeah, yeah, that doesn't help either. 465 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,960 So I like to be off the ground. Another awesome thing about the 466 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,680 hammock is if you want to, you can just toss your camp chair 467 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,560 out because technically your hammock is the perfect camp 468 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,560 chair, especially if you're solo backpacking. 469 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Now, if you're with the group, maybe keep the chair for the 470 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:45,120 fire, but hammock camping, you wake up in the morning, you have 471 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,280 your little backpacking table, you make some coffee, you make 472 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,960 some breakfast, do all of your morning chores Perfect. 473 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,240 You're just sitting there in your hammock. 474 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,480 You got an under quilt. You're literally floating in a 475 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,080 sleeping bag. Cocoon of down or synthetic if 476 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,240 you want to be more ethical, but I use the down so a. 477 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,840 Real clear before you go any further, Ben McMillan sent bail 478 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,560 money for Woodall in the in the in the Super chat of $13. 479 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,680 Oh wow. Well. 480 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,760 But not giving it to him. But yeah, that's great. 481 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,680 But. We'll put it to good use, Ben, 482 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,920 and we'll we'll keep him out of jail. 483 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,920 Yeah, look, Jonathan says. Thanks, Ben. 484 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,240 Oh, back to my hammock. The last thing I'll say about 485 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:37,440 the hammocks is the tarp. So you have this big open area 486 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,560 that even your friends can come hang out under the tarp with 487 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,920 their chairs. If it's raining, you don't want 488 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,920 them. Imagine you and your four 489 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,120 friends trying to squeeze into the Cirque tent. 490 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,440 OK, the Cirque tent is great for backpacking and it's great for 491 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,520 you. But if you all and your friend, 492 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,760 all you and all your friends want to hang out, you might be 493 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,320 laying in there and, you know, cuddling basically. 494 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:08,040 So the hammock, I got to give it the dub when it comes to having 495 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,880 the tarp, having the floating like basically layers of 496 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,760 sleeping bag around you so you don't even get drafts with the 497 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,000 under quilt and the top wheel. And then lastly you're off the 498 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,240 ground. I rest. 499 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,080 I appreciate your, your, your defense, Jeremiah, really do. 500 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,360 But there's there's a few problems. 501 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:33,680 We have a few holes we need to poke into this, this defense 502 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,000 that you have. The first thing being you. 503 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,200 You mentioned you could pretty much just ditch the chair. 504 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,000 Well, that's great if you set your hammock up directly beside 505 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,960 the campfire. Otherwise you're sitting on the 506 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,840 other side of the campsite away from everybody, yelling at them 507 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,760 to talk to them at night. That doesn't seem like a good 508 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,320 option to me. I think I'm still going to bring 509 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,360 a chair. As far as as shelters go, one of 510 00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,640 the things that's really nice when you go backpacking is a 511 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,520 lack of difficulty in setting up. 512 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560 And the reality is setting up a tent. 513 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,480 It's pretty basic, pretty simple, and a lot of times it's 514 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,040 color-coded for you. And so coming in, setting up a 515 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,040 tent and setting it up and getting it ready for camp is 516 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,960 probably going to be a touch easier, a little quicker and a 517 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,360 less confusing. And let's just be honest when it 518 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:25,600 comes to options just based solely on little parts of a 519 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,920 hammock like suspensions or the hammock itself. 520 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,920 Do you want a single layer? Do you want a double layer? 521 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,440 What does a double layer even mean? 522 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,960 Do you want to use an under quilt? 523 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,400 Do you want to use a sleeping pad? 524 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,480 What kind of tarp should you get? 525 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,320 Should you get a hex cut tarp? Should you get a tarp with 526 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,440 doors? Should you get your cat cut 527 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,280 tarp? What kind of tarp should you 528 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,440 get? What kind of material should the 529 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040 tarp be made out of? And the truth is, you can't. 530 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,800 It's really hard to buy those things all combined and then 531 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,800 find out that you actually like all of them. 532 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,120 Typically when you buy an all in one hammock, a lot of people 533 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,720 find out they like all of it, but certain parts and they have 534 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,160 to go out and change those parts out. 535 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,240 That can be frustrating for people wanting to go camping. 536 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,480 Also, I'm going to be honest, man, there's just something 537 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,880 about having privacy where nobody can sneak in and and into 538 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,680 your space. You've got a nice little cozy 539 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,800 close up area. It's kind of like a little house 540 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,760 or a little bedroom that you got at night. 541 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,600 That's nice. The other issue is wind. 542 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,560 Let's just talk about the the issue of major winds and storms 543 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,960 when you're in a hammock. We even talked about this a few 544 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,920 weeks ago, how you set up your hammock and you watched a lot of 545 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,280 your gear start blowing or I'm sorry, Jason did set up his 546 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,440 hammock and basically just watched his gear start flying 547 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,520 away in the wind. That doesn't happen in a tent. 548 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760 You're able to stake down the tent and there's no wind getting 549 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,120 underneath the tent. But with a hammock, I know 550 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,040 because I've experienced it myself, heavy rains and wind can 551 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,760 cause all kinds of issues on a hammock that just you don't have 552 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,400 with tents. And so for that, I'm also going 553 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,520 to say, actually, I might add more because I got to win this 554 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,480 one. I've got to. 555 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,640 I got to win. I'm, I'm, I'm this. 556 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,840 Is this breaking my heart? OK, got to do this. 557 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,680 I got to keep going. Let him cook. 558 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,720 Here, here's another thing about the tent, man. 559 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,120 Here's another thing about the tent. 560 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,280 You can typically find a lighter weight setup with a tent than 561 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,560 you can with a hammock, unless you want to spend three times 562 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:36,040 the money. Because hammocks, tarps, Ridge 563 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,040 lines, all of that. Some guy lines all of it. 564 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,760 When you put it all together, it can just cost a lot more money 565 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,480 to get the same weight that you're going to get when you buy 566 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,880 a nice tent. And with that said, I'll stop. 567 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,280 That hurt my heart. That hurt my heart, dude. 568 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,880 That broke my heart. That whole thing was just 569 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,560 terrible. That was that was an exercise I 570 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,120 never want to do again it. Was like just spouting 571 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,720 blasphemy. I know, I know. 572 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,200 You're the one that came up with this. 573 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,560 Jeremiah. You were setting me up like 574 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,080 outdoors, a bear burrito. I may be a bear burrito, but a 575 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,440 person laying on the ground, you're basically a bear Taco. 576 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,360 I mean, it's just like you're just down there, but they can 577 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,720 get to you. It's easier to eat something off 578 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,560 the ground than it is up hanging up in the air. 579 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,920 So that's whatever. You know, it's interesting. 580 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,840 I watched it. I watched Dan Becker's video the 581 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,800 other day. He was talking about people's 582 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,320 fears on the trail, basically backpacking myths, and one of 583 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,000 them was that bears are out to get you. 584 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,080 That was one of the myths and he mentioned something that I had 585 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,560 to look up and check, he said basically since the 1700s there 586 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:48,320 have only been 180, I think it's what he said, 180 fatal bear 587 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,680 attacks in the United States. Oh, hundreds of years. 588 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,960 So I mean, that's what, less than one a year? 589 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,800 So I'm thinking, I don't think that the 10 or the hammock 590 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,200 really matters when it comes to bears. 591 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,440 I agree. And as much as it pains to say 592 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:10,560 me to say this, John, I think that you might have got the dub 593 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,240 on that one. I think you made some great 594 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,440 points. As much as it like I could see 595 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,280 your soul melting inside your body as you were talking, but 596 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,280 you made such good points. You're so articulate. 597 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,240 You might be you might have a second career in this. 598 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,120 Have you thought about going back to school and maybe? 599 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,200 Get water. I can tell you that I hate 600 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,600 classes aren't. You waiting on taking the bar 601 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,040 exam? Aren't you excited? 602 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,520 What you looking for? Kim Kardashian's doing it. 603 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,280 I see her crying online. You haven't seen this. 604 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,000 OK, give it a goo. Kim Kardashian is trying to get 605 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,120 her her a license to practice law and I see her crying online. 606 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,720 This is a little bit of old news, actually. 607 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,880 I see her crying online because she's studying, studying, 608 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,400 studying and just keeps failing the bar exam. 609 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,720 Yeah. And she's kind of not just how 610 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,640 challenging a job like that to. Get. 611 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840 I mean, who would have ever thought that Kim Kardashian 612 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,480 would fail the bar exam? Not me. 613 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,440 I'm as surprised as anyone. I'm shocked honestly. 614 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,560 Check this out. Stone David Ventures 90% more 615 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,320 likely to get eaten by a bear in a hammock. 616 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,560 Now I would like to see the statistics on that. 617 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,280 Yeah, yeah, I would like to see the statistic of anybody that's 618 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,840 ever been eaten in a hammock by a bear, so. 619 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,920 Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you that that's a bold 620 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,560 statement. That's a bold statement from a, 621 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,640 from a very respected hiker. So I I need to know like the 622 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,080 statistics. You know, I don't remember what 623 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,160 stone they used at the last time I backpacked with him. 624 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,960 It was probably, well, I think maybe two years ago I saw him at 625 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,480 Hanson's Point. Yeah, he came up there. 626 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,760 He had a really cool backpack and he had this wild saw. 627 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,480 Yeah, he has all kinds of cool stuff. 628 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,400 Coolest gear, man, He's some of the coolest little things. 629 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,360 He had this little low, this little contraption that you, if 630 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,760 I remember correctly, he was cooking lamb burgers. 631 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,960 It was something like that, or maybe it was deer. 632 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,520 I think it was lamb though. Did you try one of his burgers? 633 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,520 He cooked over the fire. No, I didn't get. 634 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,840 I think I left on Saturday afternoon, so I didn't get a 635 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,080 chance to get there. OK, well if I remember 636 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,800 correctly, his serving his serving plate because he dropped 637 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,880 it on it was on a rock. So his might have been a little 638 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,000 sandy when he was eating it, but he gave me the good one. 639 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,480 So shout out Stone date. We appreciate you being. 640 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,800 Yeah, but I still want. I still want I want him to cite 641 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,160 where he got his 90% from. Yeah, yeah. 642 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,480 That's a bold statement. It's a bold statement, petition, 643 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,760 Jeremiah. I I want to do another another 644 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,720 little thing here today. Yeah. 645 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,440 And, and, and if you're in here right now, you're with us and 646 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,960 you're commenting, go ahead and leave comments on what you would 647 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,400 do here. But let's say you are going on a 648 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,760 backpacking trip and you are given your normal base layers in 649 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,240 your clothing, your your boots, you know what you would wear. 650 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,360 You get all the stuff that you would normally wear and a 651 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,080 backpack. But you can only take 5 items 652 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,600 with you. What are the five items that you 653 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,239 were taking? My goodness dude, it's almost an 654 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,719 impossible question. So how long are we going to be 655 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,679 in the woods for? Let's say let's just do an 656 00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,239 overnight, it's in the spring and it's going to get down to 657 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,360 the 40s. Oh, that's cold. 658 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,600 It's not cold cold, but it's cold enough. 659 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,600 It's cold. If you were out there just 660 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,400 leaned up against a tree sleeping, you'll think it's 661 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,360 pretty cold. Chilly It's chilly and you are 662 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,560 wearing appropriate clothing for the weather. 663 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,600 Okay, so you got your clothes so you don't have to worry about 664 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,280 bringing the clothes and all. That stuff. 665 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,360 But what 5 items are in your backpack? 666 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,600 Okay, I'm looking at my gear list. 667 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,400 I got a little bit of a cheat code here, John. 668 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,600 I'm going to like totally toss out my hygiene kit, all that 669 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,760 stuff. Toothpaste don't don't need not 670 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,160 even a hair brush. I know they'll say. 671 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,120 Wait, no deodorant? No deodorant, no hair. 672 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,960 Can you believe it? I think so. 673 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,320 Do we get the backpack? We get the backpack. 674 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,520 Yes. So you get a backpack, you got 675 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,920 stuff to put stuff in. And we'll say it's a, it doesn't 676 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,760 really matter the size because you're not going to feel it. 677 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,440 But we'll say it's a, we'll say it's a 45 liter backpack. 678 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,280 Let's start with something to eat. 679 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,320 I'm going to need something to eat. 680 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,000 You know, I'm going to need energy, otherwise it's not going 681 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,960 to be, it's not going to be fun probably anyway. 682 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,760 It's probably going to be more survival style, but I'm going to 683 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,760 need something to eat. So I don't know. 684 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,960 We'll bring beef jerky, a pound of beef jerky. 685 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,040 So that's one item. Is that allowed? 686 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,680 Yeah, that's an item. All right, so I'm going to go 687 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,440 with jerky. I'm going to go with a knife. 688 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,360 And not just any knife. One of those knives that it's 689 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,880 it's not full Tang and it's got one of those little screw parts. 690 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,400 Is this cheating too much? Because I was. 691 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,160 Going to because I that's on my list too. 692 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,560 So Oh my gosh, that's 100% on my list, yeah. 693 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,360 You know one of those survival knives has. 694 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,920 A Flint has a Flint inside it, yeah. 695 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,240 It's got a Flint inside. It's got a compass in the screen 696 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,640 part. Yeah, you you can use it. 697 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,400 Just a ferro rod. Has a ferro rod, yeah. 698 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,040 Ferro Rod OK, Yeah, so that's going to take care of all my 699 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,960 fire situation, right? I'm going to, I'm going to count 700 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,440 on myself to find Tinder and kindling and all, and I'm going 701 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,480 to use my knife to do all that. So now I'm not worried about 702 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,960 fire. So I got food. 703 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,080 I got fire. I got a way to make a shelter. 704 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,040 I need something to make the shelter with, otherwise I have 705 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,840 to bring the shelter. So I think I'm going to go with 706 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,720 a sleeping pad and I'm going to do one of those like foam pads 707 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,560 just in case. Just in case what you got. 708 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,440 I was just going to say, Stoned Ape Adventure says. 709 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,240 I think the last in the last decade, the only person killed 710 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:07,760 by a bear while sleeping was in a hammock in the Great Smoky 711 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,760 Mountains. Oh, that's close to home, bro. 712 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,600 Check that out. Wow, that's crazy. 713 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,080 I'd like to read more about that. 714 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,840 Yeah, I'd like to find out more. I'd like to find out more, 715 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,880 that's for sure. So we just to recap, we got 716 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,160 food, we got the knife that's got some extra stuff in there. 717 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,040 So we're cheating a little bit a way to make fire. 718 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:32,120 We got the fire taken care of. I'm going to bring the Z light 719 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:33,960 sole. I think it's the name of the 720 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,400 pad. That's the, it's got AR value of 721 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,480 like two or three. So it's not that warm, right? 722 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,240 At least it'll get you off the ground, right? 723 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,040 And I'm a little bit torn. Can I pause at 3 and see what 724 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,720 you got? No. 725 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,280 Oh, you, I got to finish it out. You made me have to defend tents 726 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,320 over a hammock, so you have to do this, OK? 727 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,000 I think you know what I think I'm going to bring now. 728 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,880 If I bring a tent, is it? Do you have all the components 729 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,200 of the tent? I mean, if you're bringing a 730 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,520 tent, you've got the tent, yeah. Yeah, I know you have the tent, 731 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,680 but like if I were to bring the cert tent, I need trekking poles 732 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,360 to set it up otherwise I'm going to cut you have. 733 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,520 To bring tacking poles, trekking poles separate, probably. 734 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,000 Well, can I bring a tent that has the poles and stakes and 735 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,080 everything contained? Yeah, you can do that. 736 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,000 OK, I think unless I misspoke and I've already said a fourth 737 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,800 item, I think I'm going to bring a tent to stay in then. 738 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,440 Now I don't have to build a shelter. 739 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,960 Right. Because the hammock too many 740 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,280 components. I can't. 741 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:41,360 That's too many items. And then the last thing, Oh bro, 742 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,000 toilet paper be pretty awesome. I could start a fire with it. 743 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,880 I could wipe my butt with it. Now come to think of it, the 744 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,720 uses are limited. I think I'm going to go with a 745 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:58,560 fully functioning first aid kit. The whole like backpacking first 746 00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,840 aid kit. OK. 747 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,720 If that counts as an item. Sure, that could be. 748 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,160 We'll let. Well, no, because that's a bunch 749 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,520 of items. You have to pick something 750 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,800 within it. OK, then I'm going to have to 751 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,520 swap it out. OK, I'm going to go with the 752 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:20,200 whole Sawyer water filter. Like like it all it comes with 753 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,440 is the filter and then the bag that screws on. 754 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,360 I don't know if that's allowed. Is that 2 separate items or is 755 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,040 that? Technically, Technically it's 756 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,560 two separate items, but we can work with it. 757 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,480 All right, well let's cheat and say it's not 2 separate items 758 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,680 since it comes in a package together. 759 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,720 Kind of like the tent, OK. We can do that. 760 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,320 Otherwise I'll have to swap out for like a bottle to get dirty 761 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,200 water in and screw the filter on top. 762 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,280 OK, so in review, go through your five items. 763 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,840 My 5 items are tent, somewhere to sleep OK I got a pad to sleep 764 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,640 on so I'm not going to freeze. I'm going to be cold because I 765 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,520 don't have a sleeping bag. It's going to suck. 766 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,960 I have a pound of beef jerky, which is going to get old, as in 767 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,680 I'm going to get tired of it in the first hour. 768 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,760 And then I have a knife, which is a bit of a cheat code because 769 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,520 the knife has a little cap that unscrews. 770 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,680 It's got a comp compus on the cap. 771 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,720 It's not going to do me much good because I don't have a map, 772 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:15,240 but at least I'll know which way N is. 773 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,200 It's got the ferro rod on there, so I can use that with the knife 774 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,720 as a strike like a a striker. And then lastly. 775 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,520 I have my filter system which is basically the Sawyer. 776 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:30,800 They use a Kanak bag. Now I don't know if you've tried 777 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,120 them or not. The water. 778 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,360 Yeah, I've got one actually. It the water tastes a little 779 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,760 rubbery if you leave it in there overnight and then filter that 780 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,440 water in the morning. So I would suggest as soon as 781 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,480 you scoop the water up, then filter. 782 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,080 Yeah. Because if not you have like 783 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,560 rubbery tasting water which is probably not great. 784 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,680 Which is wild because the old Kanak filters weren't as bad or 785 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,400 the old Kanak bags weren't as bad with that. 786 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,680 Yeah. What's the deal? 787 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,200 Do you think that they like patented it and then Sawyer had 788 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,520 to go a slightly different round? 789 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,800 Or is it a full on partnership where it's actually a Canuck 790 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,400 bag? I I don't know, I thought it was 791 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,960 a Canuck bag. Is it not a Canuck bag? 792 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,280 I bought 1 and there's no logo unless I'm mistaken. 793 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,640 So it's not a Canuck bags that's that's probably just a different 794 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,400 kind of rubber. That's what I think too. 795 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,960 It it has to be they had to change something because it's 796 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,480 the same. Everything's the same as the 797 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,640 Canuck, but or Sea Knock or however they say it, but I think 798 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,840 it's Canuck. Everything's the same except for 799 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,680 the taste, which is a big deal actually, the whole point. 800 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,520 Yes, All right. Are you ready? 801 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,480 It's my turn, right? Oh yeah, hit me. 802 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,640 OK, So what I'm going to do, I am also going to bring a tent, 803 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,040 except I'm not going to bring a pad. 804 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,320 I am going to get a sleeping bag because what I'm going to do 805 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:54,480 under my tent is pile up as many leaves and pit like pine needles 806 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,160 and things like that. And that's going to be my 807 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,080 insulation underneath, underneath me, underneath the 808 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,320 tent to insulate me from the ground. 809 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,480 So I'm. Watching bushcraft channels. 810 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,320 What's up, brother? Brother, Here's the deal, man. 811 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,680 I've I just actually read an entire book about survival that 812 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,880 I'm probably going to do a review on because it was really 813 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,800 fun. But that's for another day. 814 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,360 But yeah, so I would do that. So I'm going to have a sleeping 815 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,000 bag. I'm going to have a tent. 816 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,160 I'm going to have a cook pot because I'm going to want to 817 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,880 boil water. I'm not going to filter. 818 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,400 I'm going to boil water instead, and I'll use my shirt or 819 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,680 something to filter out all the pieces of things when I pour the 820 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,440 water into the pot. You know, that kind of thing. 821 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,520 So which is, well, whatever. You know how you pour in this 822 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,640 water. Actually, I just thought about 823 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,560 that. I'm just going to drink it 824 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,840 through my shirt. Well, we'll figure it out or 825 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,480 just deal with the fact that there's bits in it. 826 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,680 Who cares? I'm also bringing a knife 827 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,400 though, and my knife is going to be, I'm stealing this one. 828 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,560 Stone Ape Adventures put on here, a Rambo knife. 829 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,320 Because the Rambo knife has the compass on top. 830 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,800 I can actually put matches down inside of there. 831 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,920 I could also have a map down in there. 832 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,520 All these little things that come up as a part of the knife. 833 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,400 So that's the knife I'm going to bring with me. 834 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,800 That's my hack gear piece. We're so. 5. 835 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,560 Items, but it would still be it'd still be considered the the 836 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,840 knife, you know, so technically. So I guess. 837 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:21,840 So I'm going to bring that and then I'm going to bring what I'm 838 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,040 up to. That was three items. 839 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,000 That's four items you got. Tent. 840 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,040 That was 4 items. I got the tent sleeping bag pot 841 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:34,920 that and because I got the pot with me and I can make a fire, 842 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,040 I'm going to bring like a peak refuel meal with me instead of 843 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,320 beef jerky. I'm going to bring like one of 844 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:49,520 those really good like bison, like bison gravy, biscuits and 845 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,240 gravy or something like that. It's probably like 1500 calories 846 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:54,920 anyway. Yeah, yeah. 847 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,640 And since I've got the pot, I'll be able to boil water to put 848 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,400 into it and also have some chunky bits. 849 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,800 But it's all good. There's something wrong with 850 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,920 that. It'll make it tasty. 851 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,080 So. But I'll boil my water and then 852 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,280 I will. I'll do that talk, Watson. 853 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,960 OK, this comment has to go up here. 854 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,280 He says what's what? John bringing pot lol. 855 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,280 You only the essentials, John. Only the essentials. 856 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,520 First thing on his. List. 857 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,680 Well, I brought them in. No way to use it. 858 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:26,240 Just the pot. Just the pot. 859 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,080 No, so, so yeah. So I would bring, so I'd bring 860 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,160 the tent, the sleeping bag. I'd probably end up using my 861 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,640 jacket that I'm wearing during the day as my pillow. 862 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,440 I would bring my knife, my cook pot and a peak refuel meal. 863 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,920 And you say cook pot twice. No we just been talking about it 864 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,600 so much that bring 2 cook pot, tent, sleeping bag, cook pot 865 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,640 knife meal. All right, wow. 866 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,920 So let us know in the comments. Is this the dumbest 5 list thing 867 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,160 that a person would bring if they're backpacking? 868 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,040 Because I think that we have exactly what we would need to 869 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,720 spend the night. I think you're going to be 870 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,600 warmer than me, dude. That's a good idea, putting the 871 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,800 insulation under you. I'll tell you what, man, the 872 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,960 best comment of all. I got to get up here and find 873 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,120 it. Let me see if I can find it 874 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,840 because everybody keeps commenting and I can't get to 875 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,080 it. I'm. 876 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,440 Just going to read it. I'm just going to read it. 877 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,000 I'm just going to read it. I'm going to read it. 878 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,160 Keep them coming, folks, Ben McMillan says. 879 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,920 A tarp, quilt, sleeping pad, cook pot, and a sherpet to carry 880 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,040 the rest of my stuff. Oh genius, you need one of those 881 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,160 Elon Musk robot walking behind. That's the first item. 882 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,800 Elon Musk robot. Yeah, You know what? 883 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,040 Yeah, that we've been talking for years with Mr. Backpack with 884 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,120 Jason, Sir. He's looking for one of these. 885 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,400 He's like, if I can get one for under 20 grand, that thing's 886 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,760 going to carry my backpack. It's going to set up my 10. 887 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,600 Heck, might even drive him there. 888 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,400 We'll see. Yeah, you could probably do it. 889 00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,720 I mean, you could probably do it. 890 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:03,640 What was that company near 0 there's? 891 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,640 I'm going to bring one piece of gear with me. 892 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,040 I'm going to bring my near 0 the Dean. 893 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,040 What's near 0? They have so near 0. 894 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,200 What they do is they create like adventure bundles where they 895 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,240 give you the backpack, the tent, everything in the backpack. 896 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,360 So that'll be my one item. Is that that bundle? 897 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,600 OK. I'm looking at a picture of 898 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,560 their ready to go bundle. It's $800, by the way. 899 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,200 Which when you think about it, with all the gear that's in it, 900 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,280 that's a really good deal. Well, they do have some quality 901 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,720 gear I don't. Here let's do. 902 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:44,440 This a lot of this is actually looks like legit. 903 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,560 It's very. Legit. 904 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,520 The Sawyer Sawyer's legit somewhere. 905 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,400 It is up on the screen so people can see it. 906 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,480 You've got 26 items. You got your backpack, your 907 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,240 tent. You've got a you've got an 908 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,280 entire hydration kit, including a Sawyer. 909 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,760 You've got a cook kit with a coffee mug and a pot, a stove, 910 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,080 gas. You've even got a spork. 911 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,360 You got health and safety taken care of, including bug spray and 912 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,440 sunscreen and a knife, a little extra rope. 913 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,520 You've got a backpack. You got a sleep system that 914 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,800 includes a. Well, that's interesting. 915 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,200 Oh, you got a stool? Yeah, You got a stool down 916 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,320 there. You got a trowel. 917 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,160 I like the fact that you've got a sleeping pad with a sheet that 918 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,080 goes over it and then you've also got the the sleeping bag. 919 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,080 Yeah. Is that a liner or is that a 920 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,360 liner for your pad? I would assume that it's a 921 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,120 sleeping pad, a sleeping bag liner. 922 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,600 It looks like it's a liner that would go. 923 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,160 Maybe it goes over your pad because you know, one of the big 924 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,360 complaints about sleeping pads is they don't feel like bed. 925 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,640 It also says 19 lbs fully loaded out. 926 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,800 That's great for a beginner setup. 927 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,600 It's 20% off right now. I don't know man, I some of this 928 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,200 stuff I've I've never even heard of this brand, so I don't know 929 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,440 how quality their tent will oh. They've been around for a while 930 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,840 now. There's a lot of they, they 931 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,960 actually are a decent company. I actually have, I have the 932 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,560 phone number for their their owner and I was going to give 933 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,960 him a call to see if he wanted to be on the show. 934 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,520 So you telling me not to? Well, I'm not telling you not 935 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,120 to. I think it's a very interesting 936 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:30,280 concept. I would entertain the idea, but 937 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,040 I think for the record, outdoor Vitals gear is 100 times better. 938 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,560 John. Well, of course we're paid to 939 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,040 say that. Yeah, but I'm saying it out of 940 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,240 the comments. I'm kidding. 941 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,440 I'm kidding, by the way. I am taking their gear out this 942 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,400 weekend. Dude, I'm taking that 15° summit 943 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,120 sleeping bag. Oh yeah. 944 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,960 Last time I took it, I was so hot I had to unzip in the middle 945 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,520 of the night because I woke up sweating. 946 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,000 And it's awesome to get down to like 33 on this one. 947 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,280 And I fear, and this is a good fear to have, John, anytime 948 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,680 you're afraid that you're going to be too hot and that you're 949 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,760 going to have to vent your sleeping bag because it's 950 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,480 freezing outside, but you're burning up, that is a good 951 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,080 problem to have, my friend. There are worse problems. 952 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,840 Yes, because you could be me with five items in the woods 953 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,720 laying on top of a sleeping pad, shivering in the middle of the 954 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:24,120 night because John said it's 42° as the low and I have no 955 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,840 insulation over me. I'm just zipped up my my puffy 956 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,080 jacket and I'm. I was shocked that you went with 957 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,800 the pad and not the sleeping bag. 958 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,040 Well, I was thinking I would lose more heat from the ground 959 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,640 laying on the ground. But thinking about you could 960 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,240 even do the outdoor boys thing and like, put rocks in the fire 961 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:46,080 and then bury the rocks and then put your tent on top of that 962 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,080 dirt. Yeah. 963 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,080 And that would keep you warm for a while till you froze it like 964 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,040 3:00 AM probably. But that would at least keep you 965 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,360 warm for a while. And then you hours of sleep 966 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,240 though. Yeah, and then you wake up, make 967 00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:00,400 your fire, eat the rest of your beef jerky, and then hike out at 968 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,560 5:30 AM at daylight. Yeah. 969 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,120 Sounds like fun to me. I mean, I'm down to try it. 970 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,840 Can we do it overnight like that and actually take what we said 971 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,080 in this in this episode? So you can't bring a sleeping 972 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,440 bag? John, I, I got to be honest, I 973 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,360 love the hypothetical idea. I'm not so keen. 974 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,120 Just like we might stay out of the courtroom because we know 975 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,440 nothing about like, I'm pretty sure that, that I don't even 976 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,080 think the defense rests the case. 977 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,520 So I, I think I even from the beginning, I have no idea what 978 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,720 I'm talking about, but oh, and I was going to say, if you missed 979 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:40,480 it earlier and you want to go back and see the stuff on 980 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,200 screen, I know I say this every week, but it's important to know 981 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,520 YouTube and Spotify, if you use those platforms, you can see the 982 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,240 video version of the podcast if you want to see these ugly mugs 983 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,600 and see what we're talking about if we pull stuff up on screen, 984 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,000 but feel free to listen as well. Apple Podcasts. 985 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,080 I think about half our listeners are on Apple Podcasts. 986 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,200 So they're only hearing this. I don't know how you describe 987 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:10,880 the voice Appalachian. They're only hearing the voice. 988 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,120 They're not seeing those. They're only hearing 100%. 989 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,920 Somerset, KY. Yeah. 990 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,000 And check if you want to see us, check us out on those video. 991 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520 Play check us out, check us out Jeremiah. 992 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,280 This has been a lot of fun, man, This has been a lot of fun. 993 00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:28,320 So I, I, I just want to add in there the, the dynamite one 994 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,040 person tent is about 3 lbs. That's part of that kit, which 995 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,560 again I come back to for 800 bucks you're getting all that 996 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,040 stuff. That's a pretty decent little 997 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,680 setup. Yeah, and they have 4.9 start. 998 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,920 Now they only have 15 reviews, but they do have 4.9 out of five 999 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,080 stars. And the first one is about this 1000 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,320 person talking about their first time backpacking and how 1001 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,040 basically this enabled them to get out on the trail. 1002 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,600 So if you really want to drop a grand, which is probably what 1003 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,160 it's going to cost you by the time it gets to your doorstep 1004 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,120 and and this is how you get your foot in the door. 1005 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,160 It's not a bad idea, honestly. No, I mean, you think about it, 1006 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,280 if you were to buy a lightweight camp gear setup, everything 1007 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,760 separately, you're probably going to spend closer to $2000. 1008 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,880 Yeah, and like John said earlier with the tarp and the hammock 1009 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,680 situation where we were arguing back and forth, I'll tell you 1010 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,440 it's best to start with, in my opinion, the more budget 1011 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,440 friendly stuff because you're going to find things that you 1012 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,080 don't like and then at some point you're probably going to 1013 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,920 get sick and tired of being sick and tired about this specific 1014 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,680 thing. You're going to be like I want a 1015 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,040 backpack that don't squeak or I want a tent that's, you know, it 1016 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,080 seems to come seem sealed so I don't have to seem sealed myself 1017 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,120 or I got Giardia My my filter is filled. 1018 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,760 I think I'm going to pay $30.00 for a new filter. 1019 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,760 So stuff is going to come down the pipeline, although there 1020 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,680 that is the kind of bug spray I use that bins. 1021 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,160 I think it's 100% DEET. So it'll probably melt your 1022 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,160 shoes, but I spray it on. Speaking of dude, that reminds 1023 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,400 me, I told you last week I pulled ticks off on the last 1024 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,720 trip at the beginning of this month. 1025 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,520 Now I'm ending the month and even warmer weather with more 1026 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,320 ticks. Oh, there'll be more ticks. 1027 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,760 I have to, I have to treat that gear today, otherwise it ain't 1028 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,000 getting treated because I need to have everything packed and 1029 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,000 ready to go tomorrow night. Yeah, you do. 1030 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,200 I got to get off here and go treat my gear from the tick 1031 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,040 Terminator. Well, I got to get off of here 1032 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,320 because I've got to put some furniture together for a YouTube 1033 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,720 studio, so. Oh, can I say that is coming 1034 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,400 together really well, man. People can't see everything. 1035 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,440 But John sent me some pictures and I don't know if you can 1036 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,200 swivel with your camera any, but you got to know. 1037 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,320 We got to keep, we got to keep that. 1038 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,480 We got to keep that. Keep it professional. 1039 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,880 Yeah, we got to. Keep it quiet for right now 1040 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,880 until it's time. Yeah, but I'm excited, dude. 1041 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,920 You have some good stuff in the making. 1042 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,320 I'm super excited about about what's coming up. 1043 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,400 So also just just to throw it out there, I was just I just 1044 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,160 recorded an episode with the backpacking and Blisters podcast 1045 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,240 and got to hang out with Carl Mangioli the other night and be 1046 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,360 looking out for that episode. Talk a little bit about the 1047 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,200 backpacking podcast. We talked a little bit about how 1048 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,480 you get the shaft when you're the person that plans a trip and 1049 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,840 some fun stuff there too. Yeah. 1050 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,240 And let me add on there, Speaking of the shows, I talked 1051 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:29,120 with Dixie and I have her locked in toward the end of April to 1052 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,920 come on the show. So something to look forward to 1053 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,800 there. And I know you're lining up 1054 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,360 guests as well. Oh yeah, we might have a little 1055 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,520 owner of the old garage grown Gear, Mr. Lloyd coming on the 1056 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,200 week before Dixie. So we got some, we got some 1057 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,760 guests that are starting to pop up kind of excited, Jeremiah. 1058 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,520 And I've enjoyed doing a lot of shows where it's just the two of 1059 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,280 us for a while, but we're getting an itch to get some 1060 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,160 people on here again. So we're going to get some more 1061 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,080 guests on here. It's going to be fun. 1062 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,440 You guys are awesome, man. The comments are just flowing 1063 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,600 like water today. It was incredible. 1064 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,920 We're so thankful for you guys. With all that said, you guys 1065 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,400 have a great one and we will catch you on the next one.