1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,300 Hi guys. I'm JK. 2 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:11,900 And this is Jeremiah Stringer. A man who looks just like his 3 00:00:11,900 --> 00:00:20,600 voice sounds. This is the backpacking podcast 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,600 episode 3. Yeah. 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,000 And today we're gonna talk about gear. 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,500 Yes. I want to talk about gear. 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,300 That's right. So kind of what I'd like to talk 8 00:00:28,300 --> 00:00:32,800 about today. Um, the Essential piece of gear. 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,500 You can own as a Backpacker, is obviously a backpack in the 10 00:00:36,508 --> 00:00:39,800 night and so exactly. So I would kind of like to talk 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,100 about the backpack evolution of each of us a little bit. 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,100 Yeah. Just a good just kind of here. 13 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:49,100 You know what has been your journey with backpacks and is 14 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:51,400 there something you're looking to pick up in the future? 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,300 So why don't you want you to kick us off? 16 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:56,300 And then I'll come in a little bit later and talk about mine. 17 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:59,500 Okay. Let's start with what was my 18 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:04,300 very, very first. Backpack in probably and I'm not 19 00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:06,600 talking about in first grade, which you took to go to school. 20 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:08,400 Like LL. Be yeah. 21 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:10,900 Mine was an LL. Bean was like the pillow LL 22 00:01:10,900 --> 00:01:13,600 Braun or somebody like whatever the Kmart version not Walmart. 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,700 We weren't good enough for Walmart. 24 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:17,500 It was Kmart. Well I'm talking about back 25 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:19,100 packing backpacks. Here you go. 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:25,000 And I'm talking about this one was full on full frame heavy. 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,600 I think this is a Gregory actually which isn't a bad 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,400 bringing my first was a gregory. No. 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,300 No. I think Mom was Mountain 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,300 mountain near. What's the brand that you can 31 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:39,200 get at like Dunham's or dicks? Or, or even wall Mountain Smith? 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,000 Is it? No, it's not now Smith. 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,800 What's the Walmart brand? There's the Outdoor Products. 34 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:46,100 It may have been that man. Here's the story. 35 00:01:46,700 --> 00:01:50,200 So basically I'm a teacher and I wanted to go on a backpacking 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,600 trip. In the short is I'll need a 37 00:01:53,607 --> 00:01:55,500 backpack so I started asking the kids. 38 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:58,000 Do any on know anything about backpacking and one kids like 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 yeah I went out to Colorado last summer. 40 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:01,900 Oh no. Nice really. 41 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:03,900 Well, tell me about it. We had an offer to go to 42 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:06,500 Colorado United. Yes, that's maybe for another 43 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:08,699 time but go ahead. All right, well, hop into that. 44 00:02:08,699 --> 00:02:10,800 Some other towns were terrible at changing the subject. 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,600 I don't know so bad. Okay, go ahead. 46 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:15,500 Well anyway, Ethan is kid's name. 47 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:17,600 So shout out to you because you're probably not listening 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,700 this. But if you are, thank you for 49 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:24,100 what? Hey man, thank you for letting 50 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:27,000 me his mom's actually my veterinarian to oh, that's cool. 51 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:28,300 That's cool. Now, skewed. 52 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:31,300 So he let me borrow this Backpack. 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,600 And it was a cheap backpack, I think it's 95 L. 54 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:38,200 And I know you almost put your coffee out of the ninety five 55 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,600 liters, It was 95. Leave you carrying a high 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,700 schooler with you. I'm I could have fit him in 57 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:43,900 there very easily. Yeah. 58 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,800 Do you so he's just it was a cheap backpack and I borrowed it 59 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,500 and it worked out fine. It was enough to carry all 65 60 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:58,200 pounds than I needed to bring with me and I moved on from 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,200 there and borrowed. Somebody else's backpack. 62 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:04,500 The next trip. So Luke he's actually one of my 63 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:09,100 neighbors and I was like dude, you know about backpacking 64 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:10,600 stuff. I saw some of his pictures and 65 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,000 his parents like missionaries and Indonesia or something. 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,100 I don't know. Okay. 67 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,900 And they he done a lot of backpacking growing up. 68 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:20,800 Yeah, stuff. So he let me borrow his backpack 69 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,200 which I think was the Gregory. Okay. 70 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,200 Or some some name brand that you get like, REI, Great and full 71 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,200 frame still heavy and I remember, I felt so bad. 72 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,500 I Something on it. Yeah, I know and they take every 73 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:36,800 year that guy. I know my quilts going to come 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,400 back. Okay. 75 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:40,000 Do don't open it. Did you burn? 76 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,800 You burn holes in my quilt. He let me borrow his underquilt 77 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,600 never quote for my hammock, so don't don't don't open with you. 78 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,300 As long as the Scheels were showing you how to use stuff. 79 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:52,700 I'll be okay with it that dude, I can't listen, Andy, I know I'm 80 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:54,600 just kidding. Maybe Andy didn't hear that last 81 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,300 episode I highly doubt he's watching this. 82 00:03:57,300 --> 00:03:58,500 I highly doubt. He's watching this. 83 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:02,700 So anyway That backpack. He got it, fixed for free. 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,800 So, we were good. And then, I actually finally 85 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,200 bought my own backpack and my own backpack. 86 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:10,600 I've actually reviewed on YouTube already. 87 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,100 You see that blood? Yeah, smart go necks that now 88 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:17,399 let's not go cakes. It was not gonna go. 89 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:22,200 Oh my gosh, the means. Yeah so it was an osprey at most 90 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,300 65 litre which is the perfect size to fit all the clothing 91 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:28,100 than I need from a Winterhawks. Right? 92 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:34,200 Seriously and it He's like four to five pounds with the brain, 93 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,800 which is pretty heavy in my opinion. 94 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:42,100 And now I'm transitioning into a frameless because actually Jason 95 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:44,800 helmandollar who is also a backpacking YouTuber. 96 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,900 Yeah. He let me borrow a UL. 97 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:50,900 A backpack that was completely frameless. 98 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,900 And I tried that too hides. The CDT I can't remember if it's 99 00:04:55,900 --> 00:04:59,100 a CD t or circuit. Maybe, I don't circuit the 100 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:02,300 circuits frame sides, it's By the CDT, all these, she dtn. 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,700 But he let me borrow that we went to Trail days and then hike 102 00:05:05,700 --> 00:05:08,400 from Damascus, to Grayson Highlands to see the little 103 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,400 ponies and that was my first experience with a frameless 104 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,900 backpack. And so I was like, oh that's 105 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:16,000 really cool but I don't think I can use this in the winter 106 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,800 because I take one right, right? Right Shaw and all that. 107 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,800 So fast forward, I've been using that Osprey. 108 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,000 I've used it on multiple through hikes, which I guess you can put 109 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 quotes around because they weren't thousands of miles but 110 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,100 still, huh? It's, I put hundreds of miles on 111 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:35,700 it through hike, man. And and now I'm transitioning 112 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:40,600 into for warmer weather where I don't have to take as much a 113 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:46,500 frameless and actually shout out to Tom Baker, who we met at the 114 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:48,900 Michigan hammock cane. Super cool guy. 115 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,200 And he watched one of my videos and I talked to him at the 116 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,200 hammock kang-hee, watch one of my videos a little later on and 117 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,500 he was like, dude he shot me a message. 118 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,300 I know that you're talking about how heavier off. 119 00:06:00,500 --> 00:06:04,100 Osprey is because to me it's heavy and it's 45 pounds. 120 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:05,800 Yeah, I mean that's a heavy backpack. 121 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,700 He's like dude, I'll just make these for fun sometimes. 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,900 Why don't you let me send you one and it's made out of dyneema 123 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:20,800 and he's like, my my backpack. No hip belt. 124 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,000 But it's got, you know, shoulder straps on it over their shoulder 125 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,900 straps to be in trouble. If it doesn't, it's got good. 126 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,900 Good padding in my opinion strap, where are you Over 127 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:34,800 something fanny pack man. Fannypack fannypack just a giant 128 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,400 fanny pack. It's a 65 litre. 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Fanny pack in my defense where I was going with. 130 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,500 That was shoulder. Straps are nicely padded. 131 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:45,500 Oh, there you go. There you got the recovery. 132 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,900 That's good recovery because you totally messed up. 133 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,700 I know. I know rewind. 134 00:06:50,500 --> 00:06:55,700 So he sent me that and I absolutely loved it, but I was 135 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:57,200 like, dude, I'm gonna keep it real with you. 136 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,300 I can't really use it much besides day hiking in the 137 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,500 Wintertime like I won't be able to use it so he sent it to me 138 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:05,600 not too long ago. And I've used it 4 or 5 times 139 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,100 they hiking. And like if I'm car camping 140 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:10,100 going to do today, I think I've seen enough think I've seen you 141 00:07:10,100 --> 00:07:13,400 using some of your videos to. Yeah, it's got, its got one 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,200 sleeve on the back like a mesh back pocket and it what I 143 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,200 absolutely love have you had a backpack with a bottom pocket. 144 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,400 Like how man I love those. I'll I've got to. 145 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,800 I've got a day pack that has that that's my lungs or put my 146 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,900 water bottle to easiest thing in the world is and Reese's cups. 147 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,900 I think that their design Reese's Cups, these cups. 148 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:34,300 So anyway, that's my backpacking. 149 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,000 Backpack, Evolution not the LL Bean backpack, actual 150 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:47,400 backpacking backpack, and I'm looking hopefully soon to have 151 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,000 Tom here. Here's his idea. 152 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,800 Okay, just full disclosure, he said, I'm going to send you one 153 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,300 that I've already made. It's like 14 oz done. 154 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:56,500 I was like, wow, that's a lot lighter than four pounds. 155 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:58,600 That's a lot later. I'll whole lot. 156 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:02,800 You know, think about All all like, all the other crap that I 157 00:08:02,808 --> 00:08:06,800 could bring the makeup that wait, that's where my mind, he 158 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,900 thought of this. But you forget, like the weight 159 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:11,800 limit on our on those to know and it doesn't have a hip belt. 160 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,500 So you have to keep it light. Anyway, point being full 161 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:20,200 disclosure, he just said, I'll send you one that fits my body 162 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,600 type. He's quite a bit shorter than I 163 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,300 am and he's like, you get a feel for it, you tell me what you 164 00:08:25,308 --> 00:08:29,500 like, what you don't like and I'll make one that will fit your 165 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:32,900 body frame. Better because he's making it 166 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:35,100 himself like showing it and everything, right, right? 167 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:39,100 So he's going to send me that I assume I'll talk to you more and 168 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:41,200 see if he'll send it to me whenever the weather warms up 169 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,400 and I get to use his more and actually take it out and do full 170 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,600 testing. Yeah, I did get to take it out 171 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,700 one time like, overnight or during one of those winter, 60 172 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:51,800 degrees. Right? 173 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,700 Yeah, that's what is awesome. So, and you know that, you know, 174 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:59,300 the pox itani fill that is the name right, the groundhog. 175 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:03,100 He Didn't see a shadow, man, it's mean Springs coming, that's 176 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:05,500 right, it's Prime backpacking Seasons almost here, man. 177 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,000 That's right. Well, tell me about your 178 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,400 backpacking Evolution. Okay, so back that we're going 179 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,100 to, we're going to go back way back. 180 00:09:15,100 --> 00:09:22,500 It's like 2002 and I was a youth minister in Cynthiana Kentucky. 181 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,900 And one of my youth group kids, he was a senior in high school 182 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:27,400 and he was big in the backpacking. 183 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:30,100 Yeah, big into it. I mean, he had all kinds of 184 00:09:30,100 --> 00:09:35,000 really Gear and he was hey man, let's go camping sometime. 185 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,400 I'm like, all right, I'm down, I'm down for anything so I won't 186 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:42,200 do what everybody does and I went to Dick's Sporting Goods 187 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,600 and I bought the biggest 10 I could possibly buy because you 188 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,300 know, Lord knows you need a huge tent to be able to stand up in. 189 00:09:48,300 --> 00:09:50,600 It will write, you gotta hope the four person tent for two 190 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,900 people to sleep in that weighs 15, 20 pounds. 191 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:59,000 And so, I bought this massive tent and I didn't have a 192 00:09:59,008 --> 00:10:00,600 backpacking. So I got a backpack. 193 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,100 I'll sell it to you for like 20 bucks flag and no, no, I'm 194 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:05,700 thinking back then not for me like that. 195 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,800 And I'm like, who twenty dollar hit backpack. 196 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:08,900 What kind is? He goes? 197 00:10:09,100 --> 00:10:12,200 Is my favorite band, dudes, a Gregory Gregory. 198 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,100 I'm like, I'm like Gregory. Tell me about it. 199 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:16,300 And, so, we're talking about, I guess. 200 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:18,300 He's like, he Osprey, Osprey sucks. 201 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:19,900 And he's like, going through this whole thing about other 202 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:23,600 backpack, Brands and kelty's awful, and all this stuff fast 203 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,800 forward, a few years, I have a Kelty in a, in an osprey right 204 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,100 now, but but I'm like, sure, I'll take it. 205 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:32,700 And this thing was just basically a big sock with a 206 00:10:32,708 --> 00:10:34,600 bunch of stuff to lash on the back of it. 207 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:36,700 I mean, it might as well. I've been a rucksack. 208 00:10:36,700 --> 00:10:39,600 You know, that's kind of the way this thing was it have hip belt? 209 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,200 Yeah, yeah. Had hip belt had a hip belt, 210 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:45,200 very minimal backpack. It's a matter of fact, I could 211 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,100 fit the tent in it. Four person tent, that's it. 212 00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:52,100 Nothing else wanted. Hey, you just wrapped everything 213 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:54,800 else. Like I had a I got a was, like, 214 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,800 all I'm thinking is, I can go to Walmart and buy all the gear. 215 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,600 Yeah. You know, because it's cheap at 216 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,800 Walmart. So, I go to Walmart and I buy 217 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,500 this like self inflatable sleeping pad. 218 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,100 Genius, brilliant, right? It's only five pounds, that's 219 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:12,000 not bad. So eyelash that onto the back of 220 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,600 it. I go by a sleeping bag and I buy 221 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,200 the Walmart 50 degree sleeping bag that's like flannel on the 222 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,200 inside. You know what I'm talking about. 223 00:11:21,300 --> 00:11:22,700 I've still got that sleeping bag. 224 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:26,100 I'm a only bust that out sometime for a car camping trip. 225 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,100 But I mean, you pack that thing down, it was massive. 226 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:34,100 And so, I had, I took like, yellow shoe, strings, and I tied 227 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:36,200 that down real good in time, then, Back. 228 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,500 Tied it to the back of my of my backpack. 229 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:43,100 And yeah so this basically I just had most everything I 230 00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:46,700 brought with me tied to the back of the backpack and a tent 231 00:11:46,700 --> 00:11:49,700 inside of it. Now that was to 2002. 232 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:52,800 Yeah man, I bet you don't have a picture of it, did you? 233 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,100 I don't know man. We didn't have cell phones cell 234 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:57,400 phones back, then we did not take good pictures so nobody 235 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,600 ever use a cell phone for picture. 236 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,700 If they did if you try to put them like make it bigger, it 237 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:03,700 would look like Super Mario Brothers. 238 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:07,600 I mean it was just like Terrible photography. 239 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:12,700 So, but so fast forward now. Like obviously I didn't enjoy 240 00:12:12,700 --> 00:12:15,600 it. So I have this 20 dollar Gregory 241 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,000 backpack which I still have. I still have the backpack? 242 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,900 Good friend, isn't it? Yeah, I figured I was gonna let 243 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:22,300 you borrow it. If you ever need a backpack, 244 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:27,500 let's stick with the gun but, uh, but uh, but yeah. 245 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:34,300 So so fast forward to 2015 and I'm planning for Kilimanjaro and 246 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:37,100 so I read all the stuff Furnaces you need something between a 30 247 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:42,000 and a 50 liter backpack for the walk up and back and you've got 248 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,200 to bring him up, you know, food and clothes and you'd bring 249 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,800 water and all this kind of stuff. 250 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:52,200 And so I got a, an osprey Stratos 50, that's popular pack. 251 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,500 It was actually a really nice back. 252 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:55,500 I still really nice backpack, as a matter of fact, I might be 253 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:58,600 using it for my winter trip coming up just because I can 254 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,300 hold a lot of stuff in it. Yeah. 255 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:02,700 For and it's got that nice air vent in the back. 256 00:13:02,700 --> 00:13:06,200 Yeah I like that. So I use that for Jarro and they 257 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,800 also said you're going to want you know 25 L or less day pack. 258 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,400 When we go on the Safari and new backpack. 259 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:16,500 Yeah. So so I bought a Kelty like I 260 00:13:16,508 --> 00:13:19,500 can't remember the name of it. Those are frameless healthy day 261 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:20,700 pack. Yeah I was frameless. 262 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:23,600 No, there's no frame or anything but I was nicely padded and was 263 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,600 just a little backpack and had the pocket on the underside like 264 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,400 you're talking about, always keep my water bottle there. 265 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,700 I still use it when I Day hike. Like, if I'm doing day hikes, 266 00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:34,700 I'll just pull up that Kelty and I'll use that because it's so 267 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:37,400 light and it's so small Small, it's easy for what I'm doing, 268 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,500 but I'll take that with me. I've still got that one. 269 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,400 And then in 2017, me and a buddy decide we're going to hike 270 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,800 shelter, we trace and still, I start doing some studying and 271 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,500 realizing that my Osprey backpack weighs almost four 272 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:55,200 pounds, you know, three pounds 11 ounces, I think is what it 273 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,300 weighed. That's the bad part and I was 274 00:13:57,300 --> 00:14:01,500 just like man, it that's heavy. That's going to add like two 275 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:05,200 extra pounds to my back that I could potentially pull off if I 276 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,100 get something. Else. 277 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:09,400 Are you take food? Yeah, or you can eat. 278 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:12,200 Yeah, so so I decided not to eat and keep the backpack. 279 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:16,400 Know, if you're looking at me right now on camera, you're 280 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,900 probably like you could have gone without, he knows, but 281 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:24,900 anyway, so so I decide to go do some research and so I look at Z 282 00:14:24,900 --> 00:14:27,300 packs and I'm like, man, these are cool, but they are freaking 283 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:31,200 expensive. I can't afford that and start 284 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,000 looking at other things. And then I'm on the backpacking 285 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,400 gear flea market on. On Facebook. 286 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Really cool group on Facebook because they sell a lot of used 287 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,900 gear. It's a Marketplace website. 288 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:43,400 Sure. Yeah. 289 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,900 And there's a guy on there, talking about this company 290 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:50,500 called Ula that, I had no idea who they were, but all these 291 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:52,700 people were singing the Praises of Ula. 292 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:55,000 And at that point, I'd started watching videos by these 293 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,500 YouTubers. And one of them was Shug Emory, 294 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:04,000 and if you've watched Shug, he only uses Ula backpacks and Shug 295 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,500 like an OG man like it shut using stuff. 296 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:08,400 You should pay attention because do knows what he's doing. 297 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:14,900 And so I see that and then I'm, I noticed that syntax 77 him and 298 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:19,500 his wife, both have these backpacks called Ula ohm 2.0. 299 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:24,700 Xym like, Basic Shug in syntax are using you, LA's something to 300 00:15:24,700 --> 00:15:27,700 it now and then there's this dude named Jason backpacking 301 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:29,600 with Jason. This, this country guy that I 302 00:15:29,608 --> 00:15:32,900 never met before, and he's using a Ula circuit. 303 00:15:32,900 --> 00:15:36,000 And I'm going, okay, I maybe I need to check out this Ula 304 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,100 stuff. So I contact this rep of theirs 305 00:15:39,700 --> 00:15:41,700 and I start talking to him about the backpack, in his know 306 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:43,700 listening because if you order through me, he goes, you can't 307 00:15:43,700 --> 00:15:46,300 do this on the website. If you order through me, I can 308 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:49,200 get you the backpack in this material called X-Pac. 309 00:15:50,300 --> 00:15:52,500 And he's like, it's a lightweight material, but it's 310 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:57,100 really water resistant. He said, but it's super sturdy. 311 00:15:57,100 --> 00:15:59,800 It's really, it's a little more sturdy than your typical nylon. 312 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:01,800 It doesn't rip as easy and stuff like that. 313 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,900 I'm like, okay, talk to me some more about it. 314 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:06,000 So he's telling me everything because if you buy the backpack 315 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,400 through me, we can customize it to any colors you want. 316 00:16:09,700 --> 00:16:12,600 You can see all the stuff. I'm like, really like, what's 317 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,700 the catch? Yeah, I go. 318 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:15,000 What is the catch? He goes what I mean. 319 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:18,000 Customization will cost a little more in here little cost. 320 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:24,000 And I had a very specific And he was able to give me exactly what 321 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,300 I wanted to five dollars under my budget. 322 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,200 Give me a number man. Give me a ballpark. 323 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,200 How much my spending With mind being fully customized. 324 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,900 Yeah. Was like 250 bucks or tall. 325 00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:38,600 You make me look student. My Osprey was more than that. 326 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,600 Yeah, so just off the rack. Yeah, and so so I was like, 327 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,900 dude, I'm in. I'm in 100%. 328 00:16:43,900 --> 00:16:46,500 Yeah, man, because I think my budget was like 270. 329 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:48,400 Yeah. And he kept like, between 250 330 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,300 and to 65, or something like that. 331 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,100 So, with shipping and all that, you know, all that stuff. 332 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:56,100 And so I got that backpack and weighed 2 pounds. 333 00:16:57,100 --> 00:17:01,100 So, I went from 38 pounds, 11 ounces, 22 pounds, like that, 334 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:06,500 and completely customized. We were talking and he goes, he 335 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:08,400 goes, he goes, are you big guy? Are you a skinny guy? 336 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,099 So, well, not a skinny guy and he goes. 337 00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:13,700 Then let me tell you don't get your regular J straps, get S 338 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:15,400 traps. He said, you should have two 339 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,400 women get, you know, because they're built different than 340 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,400 men. They just fit a more 341 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,700 comfortably, but he got me about them because, because, as a big 342 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:24,400 guy, as a big guy fits better too, because it fits more on 343 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,700 your side. Okay. 344 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,000 So, it hugs, your side, and Your front and Jay straps with guys 345 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,600 that are bigger in the front, kind of like, I am guys, like me 346 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,600 that are more heavy those those J straps kind of Bulge out a 347 00:17:35,608 --> 00:17:38,100 little bit and get uncomfortable and they rub funny on you. 348 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:41,200 And so, he told me which straps to get, I did what exact I did 349 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,700 everything exactly the way he said, and he was 100% right 350 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:46,000 across the board on every bit of it. 351 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,500 So that was my next backpack. Was that Ula home 2.0? 352 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,100 Yeah. Well, let's fast forward now to 353 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:53,900 and I use that on the entire shell tight race. 354 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,000 How'd it work? Yeah. 355 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,400 Amazingly it's My go to every time I go out, what's the leader 356 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,400 capacity? It's 50 and do you think it's 357 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,900 true 50? No. 358 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:05,700 Yeah, I think she thinks bigger than that. 359 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:07,000 Okay, I actually think it's bigger than that. 360 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,500 I know they use different standards now, this thing's 361 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:11,500 massive. I mean, I can put so much in it, 362 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,600 and, I mean, you've actually worn it. 363 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:16,800 Yeah, yeah. And so it's, you seen how big 364 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,200 the inside of it is. Yeah. 365 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,600 I mean, it's not quite as big as your 65 but it shouldn't be 366 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,200 everything that gear swap. Yeah. 367 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:25,900 Yeah, it's still a funniest thing in the world, but, uh, so 368 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:30,500 so fast forward now, To this past November, I believe and 369 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:32,900 backpacking. Gear, flea markets, doing a 370 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:35,300 sticker raffle. You buy a pack of stickers. 371 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:39,000 You get entered into a raffle. Yeah, and I always, I always do 372 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,000 it. So I want the stickers. 373 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,400 Anyways, the stickers are kind of fun and also, you get a 374 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,600 chance, you could win some really cool stuff. 375 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,400 So I was like, I think I'm gonna do it. 376 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:50,100 Sure. And so I put the money in 377 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:52,200 waited. When they came up with the 378 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,600 numbers, I had one a backpack and I won my choice of either a 379 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,800 you Ula CDT or a photon. And those are there to frameless 380 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,100 packs and I never had a frameless pack before every 381 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:07,200 backpack I've ever. Had have been framed and I'd 382 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:13,100 gone from fully framed Osprey, Stratos to semi frame Dome 2.02. 383 00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:22,000 Now, I own a Ula CDT frameless and that thing is totally 384 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,600 tricked-out. I mean, tell me about it. 385 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,500 What's it look like? Okay, so, When you win, he 386 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:30,700 basically says, you can get any colors you want, you can get it 387 00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:33,200 with any features you want, that kind of thing. 388 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,900 So me being who I am, I kind of feel. 389 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:39,200 I'm just gonna push the envelope and see how far I can take this, 390 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,200 you know? Just like I mean I mean they can 391 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,500 always tell me, no, it's not going to complain about 392 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:45,100 something that I won, you know what I mean? 393 00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:47,000 So I'm like, I'm just going to trick this thing out. 394 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,700 So I got on you, LA's website, and they have a customizer. 395 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,000 And so I went on there, I customized every square inch of 396 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,100 that backpack. Don't know where the On isn't to 397 00:19:57,100 --> 00:19:58,100 step across. That's right. 398 00:19:58,100 --> 00:20:00,200 That's right. You, you don't get in trouble. 399 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,100 I mean the worst they could say is no, is my opinion so hurt 400 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:06,200 anybody. Exactly, so so I tricked this 401 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,400 thing as far as I can take it and I send it back to this guy 402 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,500 and he sends me back. This message and goes, man, he 403 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:19,300 goes That's really cool. Looking, I don't think we can do 404 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:21,200 all that, man. I don't think we can do all that 405 00:20:21,208 --> 00:20:24,700 and I'm like well, it's cool. I mean, if you can't just get it 406 00:20:24,700 --> 00:20:25,400 close. Sure. 407 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:27,600 And so he sends me a message like the next day. 408 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,000 He's like, man, there are a lot of people at one, these 409 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,300 backpacks, so it might be a while. 410 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:34,900 So I was just like, well dude just make my last, I mean it's a 411 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:36,100 frameless pack. I'm not going to use it till 412 00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:37,900 spring anyways, for, you know, like you were saying earlier, 413 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:39,800 you don't really use a frameless pack in the winter time 414 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,500 typically because they don't have the same weight capacity as 415 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:45,800 a frame pack. So I just kind of I just like 416 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,800 just save me for last man. Just get everybody else done. 417 00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:50,900 I got all the time in the world. No worries. 418 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:54,000 Nice guy na. Yeah, na. 419 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,500 I mean, if I needed it next week, I said, get on mine now. 420 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,200 Ha ha ha. But no, I just, I was like, I 421 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,000 just want to hold off and then all of a sudden, one day of the 422 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,500 backpack shows up, just end it. Yeah. 423 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:11,400 Just like two weeks ago, like, you know, from November to like 424 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,400 the middle of January, but the pack just shows up and it's 425 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,600 Italy, tricked out the way I had designed it. 426 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,900 What did that feel like, - one little feature. 427 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,000 What's the feature? They made it better than what I 428 00:21:21,008 --> 00:21:24,500 wanted. Oh, so like, so what I did is I 429 00:21:24,508 --> 00:21:28,200 took there's several different kinds of camo designs and I 430 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,600 picked the kryptek camo. And I got it in like a gray 431 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,500 kryptek, which is really cool-looking design. 432 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:36,800 And I've got some like red accents, like the two back, 433 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,500 pockets are red. It's got the black pocket on the 434 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:44,200 back and then did some red Accents in the straps, on the 435 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,100 front got Pockets. And then I want black on the 436 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:51,100 inside of the strap and a couple other things and I was just 437 00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:53,800 going to go with the cheaper fabric on the back. 438 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:55,900 Like right where my back rests on the backpack? 439 00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:58,500 No they kept the kryptek going dude. 440 00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:02,100 So like they use the expensive fabric there too now what is and 441 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:04,400 okay? It's an EX pack. 442 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,000 Okay. It's like a really high-end 443 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,300 X-Pac like the best way I can explain it. 444 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:11,900 It feels like a fully taped fabric, like, you know, when a 445 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:17,300 backpack is taped like when they tape Backpacks or fanny packs. 446 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:20,000 And you get that clear almost plastic-looking area, where 447 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000 they've taped it, the entire inside of the fabric. 448 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Looks like that, that make it waterproof, I don't know, but it 449 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,100 has to be pretty dang close. And usually on on X-Pac, you can 450 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:33,800 see that diamond shape through the fabric you can't on this. 451 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:37,400 It's super sturdy. Not probably is a lot heavier 452 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,700 because of it. Well, but my guess is too 453 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:42,300 though, because of that, it could probably hold a little 454 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:45,800 more weight problem and it's Probably be able to take a 455 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,700 beating and probably more durable and I'll be shocked if 456 00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:51,600 it's not almost completely waterproof just from just from 457 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,200 looking at the material so I can't wait to get it out in the 458 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,700 spring but it's frameless. And like I said I got it for 20 459 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:01,100 bucks because I heard that but I think yeah you know. 460 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:04,400 So I got $20 those, My First backpack was a twenty dollar 461 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,900 Gregory and this is my twenty dollar Ula. 462 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:11,900 So dude let me tell you well there's one more oh hit me with 463 00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:12,500 it. Hit me with. 464 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,000 Now this this is often the future. 465 00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:17,700 I've been talking with Ben from Hilltop packs for a while Greg 466 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,700 and and he makes that Raven backpack. 467 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:21,900 Yeah and I really got my eye on one of those. 468 00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:24,200 It looks really cool. If y'all haven't seen it on the 469 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,900 Instagram, go check out his Instagram. 470 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:29,600 If you fully customizable like yes, down to you design with the 471 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,200 fabric looks like like you could put your face the shield 472 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,800 brothers face bags. Yeah, you know, you could do a 473 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:42,200 face pack, dude, like, like, like a one of those Like a woven 474 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,500 bag, top fabric, I'll sing my Cuban seed or some. 475 00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:48,900 See my plan is to put Dan Becker's face on mine. 476 00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:51,100 That's what I would do, man. I mean, maybe he'd pay you to do 477 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:53,300 that. No, I'm just doing it for free 478 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:56,500 because I just dance dance. Having a rough time with getting 479 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,300 Subs. You know, people aren't watching 480 00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:00,100 his videos. So about me, I'm trying to hook 481 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:02,100 him up, you know, get some views for him and stuff. 482 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,100 So you told you now see that's I look out for my friends, you 483 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,900 know, so I'm gonna get Dan's face on my backpack and then on 484 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:10,700 the other side, I want to put Jason Wang there because he 485 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:14,800 makes a good Take yeah. So but now I'm working with him. 486 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:17,600 My point, you know, this I've been fighting weight loss for a 487 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,500 while, Liam, so I've kicked that up quite a bit recently, and I 488 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:24,700 lost about 10, 15 pounds, congratulations. 489 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:27,700 But I need to lose. I want to lose about another 70, 490 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:28,700 80 pounds. Yeah. 491 00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:32,000 After that, and talk to Ben about that. 492 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,600 And so, when I lose the weight, I'm gonna be ordering a backpack 493 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,500 from been to have that. Just because I want to try the 494 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:42,700 dyneema backpack. Sure, I've heard pluses and 495 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:45,400 negatives, Darwin just did a video on it recently, talking 496 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,600 about how loud it is because the fabric makes that squeaky noise. 497 00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:53,100 So I'm interested to try that out and see how it goes. 498 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:56,500 So that's, I've gone from the Gregory to swing all the way to 499 00:24:56,500 --> 00:25:00,300 the Future, potentially getting that dyneema pack from Hilltop 500 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:02,500 packs. Now, in all seriousness, have 501 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:06,900 you have any idea what pattern if you have it printed on what 502 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:09,500 pattern would you go with? And please don't tell me. 503 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:13,300 It's a Ohio State. Well, I mean, it's gonna be red. 504 00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:15,400 And now it's not going to be red and gray. 505 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,200 Are you kidding me? Like, do you know me? 506 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:19,400 I know you too. Well, I guess it's exactly 507 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,000 right. But it's still gonna be a face 508 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,400 on it. I tried to give you the out, 509 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,800 man. Now, there's no help needed. 510 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,000 No, I need it. I'm proud. 511 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,500 All right, man, you guys believe blue, like aliens, I bleed red 512 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:31,700 like an American. So start, bro. 513 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:35,200 That's darling Scarlet. Don't send me your emails about 514 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,600 which sports teams. You like I'm just joking if you 515 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,200 like Ohio State that's On you, I almost wore my Ohio state happy 516 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,500 because but I didn't because we're friends. 517 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,900 Yeah. But uh good we're still friends. 518 00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:52,400 So are there any backpacks your eye in the future? 519 00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:57,700 Well, I want to take a step back because I forgot 10, whenever I 520 00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:01,100 before I bought the Osprey, I'll tell you what I did. 521 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:05,300 I went yard saling. I thought, I know where I can 522 00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:11,400 buy good backpack, yard sales and I assume the yard sale. 523 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:14,100 All over the US. You think I'm right? 524 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,100 Oh yeah, I seen so, I don't know. 525 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:20,200 I know in Kentucky, we have like one giant yard sale, 127 yard 526 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,500 sale mmm and it's just Miles and Miles yard sales in one weekend. 527 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,400 Anyway, I was driving around the county that I live in Saturday 528 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,200 morning. Eight am looking at yard sales 529 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,800 stopped at a few and I stumbled upon a backpacking backpack. 530 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:40,800 Whoa, it's looking back. I'm like, man. 531 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,100 There was almost zero chance that I would have found one and 532 00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:49,100 I'll tell you what it was. When I say frame, I mean 533 00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:50,400 external frame. Oh yeah. 534 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,000 Did the Kelty external thing. I have it in the garage. 535 00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:00,400 Actually I took my buddy Derek out whenever I don't know it was 536 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,600 warmer weather. We went to Cumberland Falls, 537 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,800 which you pass on the show too each race and he used that 538 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,400 external frame backpack. I've actually never worn it out 539 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,200 on the trail, but I bought it and then when I bought it, I 540 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,300 paid two dollars for it. Hmm. 541 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:16,500 That's a good buy. That's what I'm saying. 542 00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:19,500 So, he got the He strapped quite a bit to the outside of it, too. 543 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,000 Oh yeah. It looked like a Boy Scout man. 544 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,000 I was like, he's more of like, a survivalist, like Bushcraft type 545 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,600 deal. So, anyway, that was probably 546 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,500 the cheapest backpack that I've ever bought the Kelty, external 547 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:37,000 frame. And actually, my wife's dead. 548 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:40,500 He prefers the external frame. There's a lot of guys like 549 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:42,800 old-timey. Backpackers a love that stuff 550 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,000 retro. Yeah. 551 00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:45,400 Yeah. Well dude, this has been 552 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,900 awesome. This is Been awesome. 553 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000 That's Flume. And I flew by fast. 554 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:51,000 We're done already. Yeah. 555 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,800 Can you believe that dude. That's insane. 556 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:54,700 I enjoyed it. I hope so. 557 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,900 But looking forward to getting on to episode number four here 558 00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:59,800 real soon. I know we've been talking and 559 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,900 we've got some potential guests, starting to show up on this 560 00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:04,200 thing. Yes, I think so, we got some 561 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,900 stuff in the works and if you didn't know, you can actually 562 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:12,100 watch this online as right pecking podcast YouTube channel. 563 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,600 That's right. So, if you want to see JK's, 564 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,600 beautiful face, or my ugly mug, You can watch. 565 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,900 That's the truth. So until next time. 566 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Thanks for tuning in to the backpacking podcast. 567 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,300 I'm JK This is Jeremiah have a good one. 568 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:25,900 Adios.