Yeah, put the team on my back. What's going on, folks?
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Jeremiah, let's talk a little bit about you got a trip coming
up on. Friday, Yeah, I'm actually, I'm
planning on taking the carbon, their shadow light, the like the
upgraded shadow light, basically outdoor vitals.
We'll put a link in the description if y'all want to
check any of this out. Outdoor vitals makes all kinds
of backpacking gear and I'm pretty sure the last trip I was
going on it was colder weather but I still wanted to take a
cooler. And dude, I brought my 0° stuff.
I just couldn't squeeze it all into the carpet.
It's a big backpack. It's 60 liter, I think it's 49
internal. And then you get the rest on the
outside pockets and stuff. But taking a cooler with you
backpacking, I don't know if I could really call it
backpacking, but this trip I'm going with Mr. Backpacking with
Jason Sir, and I'm planning on taking it out with me and
hopefully next week I can give you a full report.
I can't wait to hear, man, I can't wait to hear.
I'm actually planning a week of backpacking in June.
So all right, I'll be packed packing Sunday, Sunday night to
Monday with with DMS Adventures. We're going to be backpacking in
the Red River Gorge. He's coming up and doing that
part of his 10 states in 10 days and 10 miles in each state.
That's going to be happening. And I'm looking forward to doing
that. And then coming home, getting
everything cleaned up, getting the smell off of me, jumping
back in the vehicle Tuesday morning.
And a bunch of us are heading down to Tennessee and we're
going to be backpacking for another four days down there.
So kind of excited. It's going to be a a good five
day week for me for backpacking. It'll be awesome, dude, and I'm
sure you'll have a lot of great stories to share from that.
I'm curious on the Tennessee situation.
Are y'all hitting up some State Park?
You don't have to say exactly where you're going if you don't
want to, but y'all hitting up some state parks?
Are you going to wilderness area?
Is it somewhere you've been before We're.
Going to hit a fairly popular trail.
I don't know if we've actually talked about it here or not, but
we're going to hit up a fairly popular trail, so it should be
pretty cool. Hey, real quick, I need to to
say something. Derwin off the Rails just said
Hiya J&J, here's your mic money. Hope all is well $5.
And and Jeremiah, we need to say a little something to our good
friend Derwin off the rails, the the alter ego of Darwin on the
trail. Will you share with everybody
the important occasion? Yes, I want to say a happy
belated birthday to Darwin. I miss you buddy, thinking of
you. His birthday was on Monday so we
didn't have a show that day. Of course I didn't get the
chance and didn't get to tell you last week.
So I hope you had a great time. Got to spend some good time with
the family and I can't wait to go back.
Back with you again my friend. Happy belated to you.
Yeah, Happy birthday man. Can't wait to see you again in
the future. I I can't.
I think the last time I saw you was the backpacker meet up at
the river gorge a while back. So it's been a hot minute and I
do, I feel a little bit guilty taking his money for his for his
birthday. I feel like we're in a reverse
here. But I do appreciate it.
We've almost recouped the loss from the the soundboard that
John has, but it's giving John some new toys to play with.
He's having fun, We're doing well.
Are we having a national emergency?
What's going on here? I have I we just discovered this
5 minutes before this podcast came on, which is why we start
about a minute late because I found out I have a sensor button
now. Yeah, you're going to be on
there bleeping me. What was that, Jeremiah?
You know who you need that for? Oh my gosh, I'm being censored.
Double censored here. Kyle hates hiking.
Remember the episode? The first episode that.
We don't. Yeah, because.
For those that are new to the show, we're pretty family
friendly here. And Kyle, he's a loose cannon on
his channel. He, he doesn't care, he's going
all out and we had a good time. But I did have to.
I didn't have a bleak button at the time, so I had to go back
and take out some wordy derds so you can listen with your kids.
But. Yeah.
John's got the bleak button, I guess.
I'm sorry. What was that?
We can invite Kyle back on now. If we could only have a four
second delay like they do on like live broadcast, that would
be great. Yeah, yeah, drop that.
Somebody dropped that. You got to drop it from the
show, man. Got the delay.
So OK, Jeremiah, let's let's talk a little bit.
There's a there's something you put you sent to me and I want
you to explain it. I'm just going to read to
everybody because of what people don't.
Maybe people already know this, but every week Jeremiah sends me
a list of stuff he wants to talk about.
And, and so we go through the list, we decide what we're going
to talk about. I'll add something, whatever.
But today he, he sends me this thing and it says Forest Service
and timber companies spraying glyphosate or glyphosate or
Roundup. It says 10,010 thousand acres in
2026 national forests. Cruise hike, burn areas with
backpack sprayers, target shrubs, broadleaf plants, spare
conifer seeding, faster replanting and cost efficient.
But there's a problem with them using Roundup.
Yeah, I'll give you a little bit more insight here on the
Roundup, John, one of my buddies, I was using Roundup
because we do landscaping outside the house.
So I redone all the landscaping and put down, you know, the
black tarp material that you put down.
So you don't want weeds to grow up.
So it's supposed to block them out.
And then after a while, it either stops working or there's
enough plant material, I guess that's dead that the weeds can
grow in your rocks or whatever your landscaping is.
So what do you do? You spray Roundup on it.
And one of my buddies is like, dude, are you're using Roundup?
He's like, that stuff. If it'll kill the weeds, it can
kill you. And I was like, yeah,
technically, I guess if I were to drink this Roundup, it
probably would poison me. But I looked into it a little
further and. There's that's with lawsuits
going on against Roundup right now.
Dude, it's so the chemical is glyphosate and they call it
Roundup is like the, you know, just what you bite Lowe's or
whatever, and it is a weed killer.
But it's my understanding that we've genetically modified food
basically so that it doesn't die when you spray Roundup on it.
And so after doing some digging, I was like, OK, so we're
treating all of our crops, our mono crop agriculture that we're
doing thousands and thousands of acres in the US.
We're spraying roundup on it and they've modified it where
Roundup kills literally everything in these rows of corn
except for the corn. And I I think they do it for
soybeans. What's our other big crops here
in the US? Corn, soybeans, wheat.
I don't know if they do it. Y'all can Google it and let me
know in the chat if you want. I don't know if they do it for
weed as well, but I would assume so.
I assume that it's making our water really dirty, right?
It's it's hurting the water tables.
And so when I saw the headline of them using it in the National
Forest, I was like, this is throwing up some red flags.
I got to look a little further into this.
You know, I'm already scared about buying the non organic
food even though they're probably using glyphosate on it
too. And for people who don't know,
Jeremiah loves a rabbit trail. And oh.
Man, he loves him some good controversy.
He may not be the controversial one talking on this podcast, but
he loves him some controversy. And so I'm not surprised that
you had to look at more into this.
Well. It's, it's scary not only
because of the food, like, excuse me, David Cooper's
commenting in the chat that food, food modification is scary
stuff. And it truly is.
And I guess they've had to do it that way so that we can produce
enough food to feed these cows, to feed these people.
But I just don't know about putting it in the National
Forest. So as I looked into it, here's
what I found. They're using it when I say
they, I mean the national for, or the US Forest Service.
And I believe they're partnering with somebody else.
Yeah. Timber companies, so these burn
areas that happen, these large areas of wildfires in our
National Forest, they want them to be replanted.
But for anybody that's taken, like high school science class,
you know that plants need the sun to grow.
They use photosynthesis and whenever the sun is being
blocked, those plants can't grow.
So that's why you, you know, you might get a big tree that grows
and it kills out smaller things under it because they're not
getting the sunlight that they need to produce the, the sugar
or whatever their form of sugar is that the plants are
consuming. So they're using the Roundup to
kill stuff except for the coniferous seeding.
So they're replanting the forest with coniferous plants.
Hopefully I'm saying that right Stuff that grows cones and
that's going to spring up and grow quickly and regrow the
forest. My problem is is that I just
don't know. I don't know about spraying weed
killer through 10s of thousands of acres of forest to kill out
stuff so that your trees grow faster.
I get that it blocks the sunlight when the other stuff's
growing and they're competing, but I don't know.
How do you feel about it? I know people in the comments
are chatting about the glyphosate.
Well, according to AK Fuller, glyphosate is a broad spectrum
systematic herbicide and crop desiccant.
It is an organosophorous I was at the right compound,
specifically a phosphonate, which acts it by inhibiting the
plant enzyme 5. I don't know what that means and
part of me thinks he looked that up on ChatGPT, but I don't know
what that means. What I do know is what J Flow
here said, which is glycophate slash Roundup has been proven to
cause cancer and birth defects. So that is, that is concerning
that that to me is more concerning than anything else
because there's wildlife in those woods.
And if those wildlife, if it doesn't kill the plant right
away and wildlife eats from those plants, what's it going to
do to wildlife, I think. It's going to poison them.
I think it is too. I think we're going to have some
really weird things going on with animals, and I think it's
it's inherently dangerous. As someone who likes to hunt, I
don't want animals to die horrible, slow, painful deaths.
Anybody who hunts knows when you hunt you want the animal.
You want a good shot so the animal dies quickly so it
doesn't suffer. You don't want animals living
miserable existences dealing with disease or whatever because
they vape plants that had some form of roundup on them.
I think that we might have talked a little bit about this
before, but it's my understanding that they're big
farm, not big pharma, but imagine similar, but farms big
farm. It's not in their best interest
to keep using glyphosate and keep doing this mono crop
agriculture. I mean, in the short term it is
because you're making good quarterly earnings, but in the
long term, you're really depleting the soil of nitrogen.
And it needs, it needs, I think that we're having to add extra
just to fertilize the ground in order to grow these crops.
But it's it's poisoning your water table.
So what what some farms are trying to switch to is using
technology instead. Instead of doing chemicals,
they're doing a fleet of drones that ZAP the plants with a laser
and that's what kills them. So there's no chemicals
involved. Interesting.
Yeah, I don't know how powerful the laser has to be if we just
want Rogue. Yeah, I mean, we don't want
rogue rogue laser drones flying around out there in civilian
life, So I don't know about that.
Also I googled the coniferous plants.
Yes. And I could be totally wrong.
Like I say on here all the time, I'm here for your entertaining
pleasure. And you are entertaining.
Well, thank you, John. Hopefully I know Fata, maybe
they're predominantly Evergreen with needle lock or scale scale
like leaves. Interesting.
Yeah, so I think I'm speaking right on this, on saying the the
seeding that they're doing, you know, they're wanting it to grow
quickly, but they don't want it to compete with the other plants
around there. So yeah, I don't know, I, I
still don't know how to feel about it.
But I do think that there's got to be some negative side effects
to spring glyphosate in the National Forest, just like
there's negative side effects of springing on your crops, so.
Yeah, give another prop. Give some more props out to
Derwent. Off the rails.
Math whiz teacher laying down some science knowledge.
Preach, teach. Love it.
I dude, I love love love science dude, because math is the
language of science. So last night I was laying in
bed and I put my Airpod in. I can only do one because I'm a
side sleeper so if I lay on top of the other one it hurts my
ear. So I'm laying there, and I was
listening to this YouTube video of what happens whenever black
holes collide, and he's talking for, like, an hour straight
about space and time and the ribs and the math involved in
the physics. And I had to switch, dude.
I had to switch. I couldn't fall asleep because
you're going to find this surprising.
Maybe not. I was so interested in the math,
I was paying attention to the video.
You know, you got to pay. You got to play the perfect
balance. We talked about this before.
If you're trying to listen to something to fall asleep to,
it's got to be interesting enough that you want to hear it,
but boring enough that you'll fall asleep.
Yeah. And it was out of balance last
night. I got to say, John, I was
slightly disappointed in myself that I was interesting in the
math for this space-time rib and I couldn't fall asleep because I
was following along. Self disappointment, yeah.
Well, I'm this whole thing we're talking about, I'm hearing
phrases I've never heard before. I want to pull up something
somebody mentioned just a second ago.
Let me see if I can find it real quick.
It was where was it? Come on, here it is right here.
It says this is from go E hiking.
Monoculture forests are not healthy.
And I was like, what the heck is that?
So I looked it up and that's basically a plantation
consisting of a single tree species, often planted in
uniform rows and of the same age, primarily for efficient
timber, pulp or rubber production.
While they can facilitate fast carbon sequestration, these
green deserts are criticized for low biodiversity, high
vulnerability to pests, diseases and fires, and negative impacts
on local soil and water resources.
So that totally checks out. And that that adds a clue to the
timber companies helping along. They're like, yeah, let's grow
this as quick as possible so that we can cut it and make some
money off of it. Yeah, yeah, while killing the
biodiversity and causing more pests and other problems in the
forest, so. It's.
A great idea. You're saying that we're slowly
figuring out probably what half of our audience maybe already
knew, putting the pieces together.
But it takes me a minute to put the pieces together, John, so
stay patient. Well, listen, I didn't even know
we were using Roundup International Forest until you
sent that to me. So, you know, there's, there's
that. Well, we're here to inform and
entertain. Oh, by the way, my goldfish
drowns. Poop, poop, poop.
It's poop time. They are actively pooping right
now while listening to it. Just wanted everybody to know
everybody live. And we just trigger a movement
in your life. Hanging up poop early in the
show? Shout out goldfish.
Yeah. It's all media to seven.
That all checks out, John. And I gotta say, in the grand
scheme of things, probably won't matter In according to these
videos that I'm falling asleep to every night, the earth is
like 9 billion years old and it doesn't really care what we do
to it. In a billion years, if the Earth
still exists and hasn't been destroyed by something it is
going to, we'll probably all be. Dead.
And you believe it's 9 billion years old?
Yes, you're right. Yeah.
I have no idea. I know it bores me to sleep, so
that's a good thing. I just agree with J Flow.
Biodome movie with Pauly Shore was very funny.
You know, I do like seeing the the little diagrams that show
the biodiversity. Like I was looking at Facebook
the other day and it's like a tree that falls in the forest,
you know, six months from now. These are the stuff living in
it, but it goes stage by stage, and then five years lighter.
It's rotting into the ground. And there's all kinds of plants
and animals that are utilizing as a resource.
So nature knows best. Who are we to intervene?
Yeah, And we're going to have the.
Idea of spraying chemicals like that in the forest just kind of
sits really poorly with me. I.
Agree. I agree.
All right. What else we got, John?
Well, Garmin just released the brand new in Reach Mini 3 or
else they released it a while back and we're just behind same
messaging system SOSG PS: better battery life, improved ease of
use with the app, satellite acquisition interface and
they're coming in at 499 Mini 3 Plus, which includes voice and
pic messages and 449. Did You Know?
About the picture, I mean, we are a little bit behind on them
releasing this. It's like at the end of last
year I think but or maybe January of this year.
But did you know about being able to send and receive picture
messages? No, this is the first I
honestly, I use the Zolio and I've been using it now for seven
years and it still works just as well as it did day one.
So I've had no reason to switch anything.
So. Elon Musk has been claiming for
the past 10 years that we are six months away from having
Starlink all over the world, and I can send messages anytime I
want and get on the Internet. I guess we're still six months
away from that. But I don't think it's worth me.
It's not worth it to me since I already have an in reach mini.
Not even the in reach mini too, I don't think.
I think it's just the old regular mini in reach.
I'd say I do like the touch screen though.
Yeah, I read on there that it is the user interface is better and
the touch screen that is an upgrade because those little
buttons on the side, that's like you remember, remember whenever
you had the old phones and you had to click, like if you wanted
to put C, you had to click 2 multiple times.
Yeah. So that is an upgrade.
And I'd love to be able to send and receive the picture
messages. I'm afraid honestly, if I change
anything, my price is going to go up.
I think I'm grandfathered in under their old contract.
That this is how much it cost until I change it yeah.
So I pay 25 a month and it gets you whatever, whatever package
that is or whatever it was five years ago whenever I started
paying it. So I don't know, I'm a little
bit afraid that if I change it, it's kind of like when you have
a certain TV or Internet provider or phone provider and
you're like, yeah, let me change this.
And you're like, well, actually you had a promotion and if you
change it, we're going to triple the price.
So you're going to have to use this technology from 2007.
And you're just like, yes, thanks.
I'll just keep this old technology.
Yeah, I mean, if it works well, why?
Why change it? OK, let's look at their
subscription plans since we're sitting here talking about.
It you know, why not? Let's tell everybody how much it
cost. It's 4 or $500 if you want the
device. I know iPhones gotten better at
the satellite, you know, being able to text while you're in the
woods. I never do use it.
I always take my Garmin. So now is the in reach flex team
plans, is that what it is or is it in reach consumer plans?
That's what it is all right. The in reach consumer, The in
reach consumer plans, the first one is 799 a month that is
enabled, which means what do you get this?
You activate your in reach subscription to stay in touch
with friends and family, be on the limits of cellular networks.
In an emergency, you can trigger an interactive SOS.
All plans include SOS messaging. Other accessible features will
vary by device. Let's see, here we go, the
different plans, OK, You've got your enabled plan, which is 799,
your essential plan which is 1499, the standard which is 30,
and the premium which is 4999. And the difference is here's the
differences with all the plans except for the enabled plan,
which is the cheapest. You have unlimited satellite
check in messages and reactions. Like the pre programmed
messages, you click on the device you're like hey I've
reached camp or whatever you have it programmed ahead of
time. Yeah, just so people know you're
alive. So those are freebies.
Those are freebies, satellite texts.
You get 50 with the essential plan, 150 with the standard plan
unlimited with the premium and enabled gives you it cost you
$0.50 each. Yeah, that's.
The good old days when you had to pay $0.10 a text message.
Yeah, yeah. And then you've got photo and
voice messages. You get 10 photo and voice
messages a month with the essential plan, 25 with the
standard, 50 with the premium, and then you pay a dollar a
message with the enabled. And Garmin has it such figured
out because I would just deactivate it and then like
let's say that you go on 2 trips a year, right?
And you don't really use the Garmin.
I had the unlimited because I was taking it on motorcycle
rides and then I was going backpack, especially in like
summer break, I was going twice a week.
So I was like I'm using this thing all the time.
I was travel, I was flying to different places backpacking and
then I found out it cost 40 bucks to reactivate it.
If you like, cancel the plan. Because if you're.
Only going a couple times a year.
It might be more economical to literally just be like well the
week before I go I'm going to pay the activation in the
monthly fee and then I'll cancel it when I get back.
But I don't seem to economical now.
Yeah. Well, they're saying the
activation fee is 3999 like you said, then you've got overage
charges. What do you mean?
So that's messages and weather requests.
If you go over your allotment, it's $0.50 each on all of them
except for the unlimited because there is no overage there to get
you on that. Yeah.
And then you've got the satellite photo and voice
messages, a dollar each until, yeah, it's a dollar each for all
of them because none of them are unlimited on that one.
And then LTE is is on every single one of them.
So if you happen to have LTEI guess you can use that instead.
It's if you use LTE and you can pick up LTE service,
everything's free. It says text messages, voice
messages, voice calling and live track location sharing.
All four of those are free. Yeah, but it's only it's only
for their watches. Yeah, it is.
You're right. And I'm still mad about the
watch. Dude, that the the sapphire that
I had, I think it lasted Me 2 1/2 years, which sounds like a
long time till you're like, it's a $700.00 watch.
Yeah, let me see how much they are.
Hey I want to say something real quick Go my goldfish drown asks
are we going to start a GoFundMe for Suge?
I feel like we're we should help him.
There is a GoFundMe for Suge. I'm not sure what the link is
off the top of my head but his daughter had already started 1
so there is one. If you go out there and look for
it you should be able to find it.
I think actually when he announced that he had cancer he
put a link to it in his video. So if you guys want to go find
that, you can get that link and you can help Suge out.
Just wanted to throw that out there cuz I saw the message for
those who don't know who Sugar is.
By the way, if you're listening to you on who the heck is Sugar?
Sugar Emery is a legend in backpacking when it comes to
hammock backpacking and he's just the man.
He's done everything in this life.
He was a professional clown, traveled with Ringling Brothers
and Barnum and Bailey Circus, grew up overseas, incredible
man. And this past year he has he has
cancer and it's a blood cancer. It's pretty, pretty rare and
pretty brutal. He's got high hopes that he's
going to be fine and we're praying that he is.
But if you want to help him out, definitely go over and check out
his channel and and do that. So he's awesome.
Yeah. Legendary Hamaker.
Absolutely, Absolutely. OK, to wrap up on this Garmin
situation here, John, I did look up the watch.
They're now 800 for the. 8. I think I had the six and it was
like 650. I paid for it plus tax of
course. And if you want to get the MO MO
LED, they're 1200 or if you want the 51 millimeter 1300 or if you
want the micro LED, $1700, bro. Dude, they've got something
that's more expensive. Than Apple isn't that, it's a
think about that. It's more expensive than Apple.
Well, if that's if you're really deep in it, then I get it, Like
if you're using that as a dive watch or something.
But 51 millimeters? Dude, what size watch do you
wear? Are your daily watch wear you
Apple Watch? Guy Apple, I got my Apple Watch
Ultra. Yeah, yeah.
So what size is? No I have a I don't have the
watch that I use for when I'm backpacking and stuff but this
is my my everyday. OK.
Is that a 38? No, no, no, no, 42.
It's bigger than that. The ultras are a little bit
bigger. I think it's 46 or 48 or
something like that. OK, I do a like a 42 and I feel
like like I have big hands, you know, I can grip a basketball.
I'm a tall guy. I'm 6 foot 4, but a 51
millimeter. I don't know if that is a flex
or if that would just look really large on my.
Maybe I have just little wimpy wimpy eely little wimpy wrist.
Maybe that's my issue. You're a big boy.
I wouldn't say you have wimpy wrists.
Little wing. Look at this.
The Phoenix 8 Pro is like $2100 according to Chicken Little
Tricks. Although he lives in Canada.
So like a isn't it like a loaf of bread?
Like 2600 bucks. No, he doesn't live in Canada,
he lives in. No, that's right.
He lives. That's right.
I can't remember if it's Salmon outdoors, that's who is Salmon's
from from Canada, Chicken Little from down here in the States.
Yeah, I think he Tennessee. I had to text him.
I can't remember. He drove up and met us at well,
whenever I had the the stomach bug and all the diarrhea and
stuff, I got to spend. But that's who surprised me with
the coffee that you chastised me for drinking with the the bubble
guts. You're like McDonald's coffee
with a McDonald's biscuits and gravy.
That was, those were the worst combo choices you could have had
for. Them terrible man.
Oh, and Chicken Little tricks is from Alabama, by the way.
Alabama, Alabama somebody was somebody's making a comment
about stuff that you hear Suge say.
These are the two things that Suge is known for.
Whoo. Buddy and it's all secure in
sector 7. He has been a part of our
podcast for a very, very long time.
We love some Suge. Yeah, we do love sugar.
You want to talk about this bear attack?
Yeah man, apparently May 4th 2026 there was a a grizzly bear
attack on the Mystic Falls trail near Old Faithful and two
hikers. It was a not they were non fatal
injuries and the last fatality was in 2015.
Jeremiah, how likely are you to have a grizzly bear attack?
In Yellowstone, well, you know, like you said, the last one
being in 2015, the chances are low.
And actually, we haven't confirmed that this is a
grizzly. OK.
And by the way, how dare that grizzly attack on Star Wars Day?
I know man, if anything they should be like making Chewbacca
noises or something. Yeah, the the gall on this
grizzly. No, David Cooper.
David Cooper, you're going to get on the you're going to get
on the Red List, dude. They must have been in a
hammock. They were hiking.
David Cooper. They were.
Hiking and this is actually a sad story not to bring down the
mood I am making a lot of it by making jokes.
But honestly it was like it was a grown man.
And I saw I looked into it more and watched some news clips and
stuff and there was like a local news network that covered it.
And they interviewed the guy that found the victims and one
of the victims was a grown man and this guy that found him
followed the bear tracks. They showed a video of the
tracks and is giant grizzly bear paw prints or allegedly grizzly
and he followed the tracks and found a bloody hat.
I'm reading it right now, yeah. And then he he kept going and he
could hear the guy screaming for help and the guy's face is like
half torn off. I can't believe he didn't die
and he he was all messed up and had his 14 year old brother is
what the news channel said. I don't know how true that is
but 14 year old brother with him that also got attacked.
I don't know how bad the injuries were for the kid, but
that's rough, man. Chances are low.
And I don't know, some people are saying that it's because the
bears were hibernating and they're hungry and they're
waking up. I don't know how much stock I
put into that. I thought it was kind of a urban
myth that bears really like crawl into a cave for six months
and hibernate. It's more of like a we don't eat
as much during this period of time.
Yeah, there's something I've learned though, about about
bears in general. Typically if you're in groups of
three or more, they tend to just stay away.
It is one of the number one things you can do to like avoid
bear attacks is to travel in a group.
But this guy went by himself. I mean, he had, he had another
person, but like you said, that's not a group of three.
Yeah, and, and it just seems like when you're in groups of
three, they just stay away because they hear all the
different voices and it it doesn't sound like something
they want to have to deal with. Did you read specifically
anything about the trail? I know it's a it's a semi busy
trail Mystic Falls, but I don't I wonder how much foot traffic
there be on there because you think that if there's a lot of
people using that trail wouldn't be a whole lot of bear activity.
Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know.
Says 4 million visitors a year in Yellowstone.
Yes. I mean, you would think with all
that traffic that wouldn't have, which makes me wonder, I guess.
He said he saw bear tracks though, didn't he?
The guy that found the victim said he saw the bear tracks but
not the actual victims. I think it just run up on them.
Just caught him out of nowhere. One or more bears.
So there's probably a chance that they walked up on some
babies and Mama freaked out. That could be, let me give you
the four things that you can do to try to help protect yourself
from a bear attack. So you really want to be
preventative like John said and travel in a Group 3 or more
people, but also make noise. Like I remember when I first
started getting into the YouTube hiking and we talked to Dixie
last week. Great episode by the way.
If you haven't checked it out, go back and check out last
week's episode. But I remember her like clacking
her trekking poles together and like literally yelling hey bear
as she was hiking along the AT by herself.
So making noise loud, calling out whenever you're going around
corners and that kind of thing. Here's another thing you can do,
bear spray. I remember one of my buddies
when I first started hiking, loaned me a tent and he was
telling me about a trip that he took out West and he didn't have
a firearm with him. And they could not believe that
whenever he's getting his his permits and all that it flown
out there didn't want to fly with a a handgun.
So they had basically lent him one.
They were like, you leave your driver's license with us and
we'll give you this gun and then you bring it back to us.
So. And he did it and they said you
could get attacked by a Mountain Lion out here.
Yeah. So I thought you.
Can't even talk to Dixie. She saw a Mountain Lion out
West. Yes, and this, you know,
Yellowstone it bear spray is where I would go to, but my main
issue with that is you have to buy it when you get there.
You you know, like I assume that a lot of people that use bear
spray, they have the same bear spray and you just keep it at
your house until it expires. Like you take it on a trip and
bring it back home. Like you almost never use it.
Well, the hope is you never use it.
Yes. And by the way, I found mine.
It was over here in my storage stuff and I checked and it had
expired. And so I went out and tried to
spray it and it, it was like when I say wimpy, there's a
reason why is it expired. I don't know if there's O rings
in there that wear out or something that causes it to lose
pressure or what, but bear spray.
And then the last thing, situational awareness is better
than your gear and nothing's going to protect you fully.
Even like if you had a handgun, you know, a bear, I'd say you
can empty a full clip into its belly and it's going to still
come at you if it wanted to. You know a grizzly that wants to
eat you just. Always remember that animals in
the woods are wild. We don't have any love for you.
They don't trust you. It drives me nuts when you go
down to you go down to Tennessee and you see people trying to get
as close to bears as they can and take pictures of them and
it's just, it's just absolutely the dumbest thing you can do.
These, these are wild animals. They don't trust you.
Some of them see you as potential food.
Just stay away from them. You know, just stay away.
UGQ outdoors in here. What's up, Chad?
Good to see you. But I also kill quest was in
here. I saw just a little bit ago,
Woodall Trails has gotten into the game.
Brian Winterburn just showed up. We got man, there's a lot of
people in here today. It's good to see everybody.
Jeremiah, I'm going to get some homework for everybody for next
week. All right?
I don't want to talk about it today, but Backpacker magazine
came up with a very controversial article and it's
called It's time to face it. There's privilege in through
hiking. OK, I want everybody who's
listening or watching right now go read this article and I'm
really interested to see the comments next week on this one
because I think there's already 1 backpacker on Facebook who has
given his opinion on it and it was it was pretty impressive.
So it just everybody go read this article.
You can go to backpacker.com and and it's it's on there, but it's
literally called it's time to face it.
There's privilege in through hiking and I'm just curious what
everybody thinks. I'm just going to leave it at
that, Jeremiah. I haven't.
Read it yet? I'm excited to read it.
Definitely got opinion. I've got one but I'm not going
to give it right. Now, whoever was the editor that
came up with that title? It looks like Maggie Slepian is
the one who. Who wrote it?
Shout out Maggie, because that was very that's very clickable.
You say so myself. Yep.
Yeah, I'm excited. I'm really, I'm really
interested to to hear people's thoughts and opinions on that
one. So, OK, Jeremiah.
Look, can I ask you about the coyote real quick?
I was actually going there just now.
You. You've sent me something about a
coyote swimming 2 miles to Alcatraz.
Yeah, dude. So Alcatraz, it's this island
prison, right? San Francisco, they built this
island prison and they've done it so that if you tried to
escape, there's nowhere to go. I think there's like a allegedly
one guy that may have escaped and swam the channel to get back
over to the mainland. But if you've seen any of the
documentaries about this place, that water does not look
swimmable. Like it's super cold.
Oh yeah, You think about. That'd be Pacific Ocean, right?
So the way that the. Just think of San Francisco
right now. Yeah, imagine what's in that
water. Yeah, not good.
Come on now. And you think about the ocean
currents so that the, the way that they're coming, they're
going up the Asian coast and then coming in the Northern
hemisphere and then coming up through around the Arctic area
and then going down the West Coast of the US.
So you get cold water, right? That's why you got to wear a wet
suit to, you know, to swim or surf up there, right?
So San Francisco, cold water's rushing.
Apparently there's a coyote that swam the 2 miles over to the
island. Now nobody can say for sure, but
the people that study coyotes, they think that the most logical
reason why the coyote swam there was it was competition for
territory and the coyote wasn't cutting it on the mainland.
I don't know how it would have even known that there was an
island out there. I guess maybe their eyesight's
good enough that they could see it, but I would assume not.
I didn't think dogs could see that well, I thought it was more
of a nose thing and swam all the way over there.
Here's the kicker, they were surprised and then it left and
they did not see it anywhere else.
So what do you think did? It's sadly not.
Are you able to make the swim back or do you live in the the
happy land? I think he just stayed over at
Alcatraz. Like I'm not doing that again.
Well. I think the islands fall enough
that they know it's not there anymore.
Man, it had to go somewhere. I've got a buddy, Darren
Wendell's, his name. He actually does Wendell fishing
and he's got a really big channel.
He's he's a great guy, but he swam Lake, MI and it put him in
the hospital like and he swam from Michigan to Illinois like.
FYI went to Lake MI in July, mid-july, water temperature 52.
Yeah, yeah, July. Yeah, but he swam.
That did all kinds of damage to his body, like the waves and the
push, the the rubbing up against him.
And not to sound gross, but one of his nipples was almost
completely rubbed off. So yeah.
And that was, you know, now that's a little further than
Alcatraz, but, I mean, that's a long swim.
And he swam that whole thing and it put him in the hospital.
I can't imagine what it did to that dog.
Dogs are not the world's best swimmers.
Yeah, and two miles. For a dog, that's a lot.
Yeah, yeah, Speaking of the nipple.
Thing I don't like coyotes. So big dumb dog.
You deserved it. Yeah, not a Coyote fan.
Not in the cities. I feel like they've penetrated
pretty much all the large cities now.
And they'll they'll eat your dog or cat like your house dog.
Small dog in Kentucky. They're terrible here.
Yeah, you can. You can hear them.
You can hear them like just backpacking, hanging out in the
wood, even here at the house. There are very few animals that
you are allowed to hunt year round with no limit, and coyotes
are one of them. Yeah, we used to, this might
ruffle some feathers, but we used to sit up like there was a
cow, a horse trailer or a cow trailer.
You sit up on top and you can put like a call and it sounds
like, like a dying hair or a dying baby deer or something
like that. And the coyotes hear it and they
it's a terrible sound. By the way, have you ever heard
this? No, but I have to post this
during off the Rails asked me a question.
He says do you call one nip Now say no, we don't call him that,
but that's really funny. I have to let him know you said
that. That's funny.
But you put the call out in the field and then you sit up away
from it and you wait for the coyotes to come in and boom.
And the reason why we're doing it, this was on a farm.
So you don't want them getting into your baby cows or your
lambs or anything like that. They will literally, you know, a
baby cow, you're looking at losing hundreds, potentially
thousands of dollars down the line, but you've invested a lot
of money into having that cow, like months and months of work
and energy and money into producing one cow.
Yep. And then it's just gone just
like that. But anyway, back to the nipple.
So, John, I don't know. I don't think it's ever been
said in a podcast in the United States.
Now back to the nipple. Now back to the old one nip.
Old one nip, So on the nipple. And all serious though, if
you're into if you're into kayak fishing, you got to check out
Darren's Channel. Wendell fishing fantastic.
Wendell fishing Fantastic. I love it.
You know, when I was cutting all this weight, try to have a
healthier lifestyle and stuff. I'll tell you the worst part of
it is probably that I absolutely love playing basketball and that
was the perfect form of cardio for me.
Because you're exercising, but it's not boring.
I'd hate just running on treadmill or something.
So the problem with that is playing basketball five days a
week and you're a heavyset guy and some of that fat is sitting
up here around the nipples. And so, I mean, I didn't wear a
sports bra or anything, but you get a lot of rubbing.
You seen the guys running the marathon?
Even the skinny guys get the rubbing on the shirt and they'll
put like band aids over their nipples.
I'd do that sometimes playing basketball because if you do
five days a week, you'll literally get rubbed to the
point where you are actively bleeding and ain't nobody
wanting to. Like, imagine you're playing
basketball and you're trying to back a guy down in the post and
you're bumping up against him, but he's literally got blood
running from his nipples. Nobody wants to play with that
guy. So I did not want to be that
guy. And so sometimes you got to take
them up and just be an athlete. Although I wasn't an athlete at
the time, I was I was trying to cut the weight and become an
athlete. You.
Were a heavy athlete. Yeah, I was heavyweights.
You were a heavyweight. That's OK.
I mean, they're heavyweight boxers, heavyweight wrestlers.
And I'm not talking pro wrestling, I'm talking
wrestling. Wrestling.
There's heavyweights in the UFC, you know, offensive lineman in
the NFL, defensive lineman in the NFL.
They're heavyweights. Well, they have it the best
because you know these guys fighting that like a weight
class of 145 or something, they're having to cut weight.
Those guys are walking around at 160 and having to dehydrate so
much that they're losing 15 lbs for a fight.
Yeah. Not the heavyweights we're going
to eat before we weigh in. We're heavy.
Yeah, yeah, during Off the Rim, he made a little mistake there.
This is really funny. He let me see if I can find it.
He goes, he goes. Not if you play shorts and
skins. Oh gosh.
And then he goes, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
He goes, there's no shirts. Shirts.
I got to be honest with you, I don't do shorts and skins.
That's definitely not what I do. I also do not participate.
I don't want to be. I don't want to play that guy
either. You don't want him backing you
down to the post either? No, no, I think I will.
Accuse people if they just if they're tuning in halfway
through and they're, they're hearing us talk about nibbles
and and playing without shorts on.
Yeah, last week it was breast milk.
This week's Shorts and Skids, well, very family friendly.
I will tell you, John, there's five things that I did in my
life that helped create balance and I still try to practice them
today. And so if anybody's trying to go
through the same things that I went through with the weight
loss and making sure your life is in balance and all that, I
think I've mentioned these in the past.
I'm going to be brief here. Light.
You want 30 minutes of sunlight a day and nothing bright at
night. That means like stop looking at
your phone at 11:00 PM. At least that's what I do
Movement. That means cardio and resistance
training. Everything from running to
weight lifting. All of it.
Nutrition, Balancing your macro and your micronutrients.
Don't have time on today's show to go deep into that sleep.
I try to do 8 plus hours a night since we had the baby
hysterastically. Reduced.
I can't remember the last time I got 8 plus hours a night.
That's just a goal. Yeah, well, OK, you got to, you
got to aim for something or you'll miss everything.
And then lastly, connection. That means you're not isolated.
You have some type of social connection, whether it's a group
of friends or whatever situation you're in, but.
Well, and I just read it when you talk about that one
specifically, I actually studied up on this a few weeks ago and
the the the development of paranoia almost always comes
from isolation. Tell me more.
Basically, when you were by yourself, what ends up happening
is there are, since there's no other people in your life, you
become the most important person in your world.
And in the process of that, you become the only person in your
world. So other people don't really
matter. And in the process of that, you
just assume that everybody around you is against you
because you're the best in the world and everybody wants to be
you. And they they're jealous.
And it turns into a really crazy situation.
There's been a lot of psychological studies on it.
And yeah, isolation is not a good thing.
We need people, that's for sure. And.
You start getting that main character energy going.
Yeah, yeah, that's where it comes from.
I don't think that we have time to do all these.
And honestly, I only wrote down 13 of them because I missed the
other two and I was too lazy to like do a deep dive to find
them. But John, I was wondering if we
could wrap with some things that are cheap and would help you
improve your life. And you, you let me know if this
is terrible or if you are going to do some of these things.
So like I said, I don't know if we have time to do them all, but
one of them is throw out all your socks and replace them with
20 pairs of the exact same size and color, shape cut everything.
So then every time you wash socks, you don't have to worry
about matching them. And if one gets a hole, you can
just throw it away and keep using the other 19.
So what do you think? Are you headed to the store or
are you getting on Amazon and ordering new socks right now?
No. Oh, you're just going to keep.
You're just going to keep using the same old socks.
I mean, yeah. Yeah, me too dude, I thought
this was a bad one. I can't afford that.
Whoever wrote this, when I was like, what they're wearing, like
like Nike elite socks in a suit, like what's going on?
I got suit socks. I got no show socks.
I got crew cuts. I got ankle cuts.
I mean a man needs more than one style of sock.
What if you wear shorts? You don't want to be wearing the
same like socks for your shorts as you are with your suit.
Yeah, it's ridiculous. Hey, I do want to say something
though, J Flow. There's a difference between a
loan and isolating. Like he says.
That isn't true for every person that's alone.
I didn't say alone. I said people who isolate
themselves from everybody. That's a huge difference.
People who avoid being around people at all costs, big
difference there. So yeah, I don't, I don't agree
that that every person that's alone does that.
That's we're talking about isolation a little bit
different. So just want to make sure we we
confirm that. I don't want there to be any
confusion on that one. What?
About the library card, do you have one?
No. Oh, not yet.
You mean. You mean not yet?
You don't have a library card? Sure.
He's like, no, I meant no. You know, you get to like the
audio books for free. There's a Hoopla app for my
Public Library and I love that. Yeah, my wife, my wife and my
kids all have library cards and they use them.
I I don't have one. I've got so many books right now
that I have not gotten through that.
Having a library card would just be something that sits on a
shelf and never gets used because I don't have time to
read all those books and the ones I already have.
So. Yeah, and honestly, every time I
go to my Public Library, they never asked me for the car.
They always want my name. They you they give you 2 cards,
they give you a little key chain 1.
You know that you put on the circle thing on your keys and
then they give you like an actual physical one which
doesn't fit my wallet because I have one of those slim ones.
So I guess it's more of a memento did.
You see what old trails just posted?
Now what do you say I? Don't know what this means, he
says. If you have kids, Louisa, that's
not that's not it. That skipped on me.
That's this one. I haven't had a library card
since I had a Bicycle card. Is that the?
Card that you put in the spoke of your box, so it sounds.
Like a motor talk nobody's talking about.
Did he? Did he use his library card as
that card? Probably.
That's probably the last. I'm trying to, that's what I'm
saying. I'm trying to figure out what
he's talking about. So and what off trails buddy?
Tell us. Come on, Jonathan, tell tell us
what you did with that car. Just are you saying you used
your library card to make noise on your bike?
Those were the good old days man.
You clothes pinning or tie it to your bike.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
What about outdoor walks that's cheap and easy and adds value to
your life? Yes.
Yeah, I totally agree with that. How about I?
Agree with that. How about a new shower head or
bidet? He's not.
A shower head for me man. Like does the water get on and
clean me off? I'm not in the shower long
enough to care about the shower head that much.
Fair, fair. OK.
What about now? My wife may be different.
You think that she wants to install the bidet?
I mean, I think everybody wants to install a bidet.
I totally agree. Oh, sad, sad news, John.
Breaking news. I don't think I've told you the
bidet at the Stringer household has finally given it up.
I am the day list my wife actually, it was broken, but it
wasn't broken as in like it's broken apart.
Some of the internal parts failed, but it didn't work for
like a month straight. And my wife was finally like,
are you going to take this thing off the toilet or are we going
to keep having to deal with this broken bidet?
So over the weekend, unfortunately had to take it out
in the yard buried under the old oak tree.
RIP the bidet. You have a nice memorial service
for. Yes, yes.
Now here's the question that you get on Amazon.
It's. Poop time.
That's right. Did you get on Amazon and order
a new one? Oh, I just been I've been using
the kids baby wipes. What?
No. Hey, hey, Woodall got back to us
here. Wait, so I can find him on here?
He said. Oh gosh, everybody keeps.
It's kind of funny, he says Nope.
Well there it goes again. It's on the wrong 1.
Hold up, this is hard sometimes to get these all figured out.
He says Nope, they had a bicycle card you could get from the
license office way back when. I never heard of that before.
Me either. Yeah, the.
Same town he grew up in. Well, I think he's more of the.
City. Of Alaska County.
I was in the Wayne County. Yeah, ordering counties.
What about journaling? Do you do a little journaling?
That's almost. Free.
Yeah, not AI. Tried once.
I mean, I tried 2 and I epically failed John.
I literally like I've tried doing just a regular journal.
I've tried doing a journal like directed at certain things like
a prayer journal or something like that that you can look back
upon. It's just too much work for me,
dude. I cannot.
It's another thing I feel like it's an obligation and I don't
need more obligations for me. I need more woods time.
I just don't care. So like I'm not worried about
getting connected with my feelings.
Like, I don't care, so I'm not going to do it.
Before we go to the next one, let me tell you real quick, John
of how I've had. I've modified it and it works
for me really well now. And I would suggest you trying
it as well, even though you probably won't because you've
already signed off on it. But let me just hear me out, OK?
What are we talking about right now?
We're talking about the journal here.
Just hear me out. Journal.
Now I don't know if I call it journaling, OK, It's adjacent to
journaling, OK. So I pick 3 or 4 things that I
want to track through the month, like for example, my weight or
how much I'm sleeping or just you get to pick right whatever
statistic that you want to analyze over a month.
You can record any data you want, OK?
I put that as a column. So I had to pick one page.
This same book that I sent you a picture of with the show notes
for today, I pick a page in it and that's my page for the
month. So May 2026, wait, whatever.
And then I also do the date, so one through 30 this month and
right next to it I put the day of the week MTWT and so on.
OK, OK. You get one line like this much
space and you write whatever you want for that day.
So it could be my kid said his first word, or it could be I
taught my kid to ride a bike, or it could be I went on a date
with my wife to hear or whatever.
And so at the end of every month, sometimes we get a little
behind, which makes it even better.
I'll go through and my wife and I sit down and have a cup of
coffee, or we sit at breakfast or maybe at dinner or something.
And I put the notebook in front of us and we go through and read
through that month's highlights together and we get a little 5
minute session of nostalgia. And then I've been doing this
now for like 2 1/2 years. So I have multiple books now
filled up with not just those papers of the, the recorded data
and the daily highlight, but also the other things you're
working on, house projects, payments, whatever's on your
mind writing it down in there. So if anybody's wanting to try
journaling, I don't think John's gonna do it.
No. But if you want to try it, but
you don't want to commit to the point where like I'm gonna write
a page every day cuz I just couldn't do that.
One highlight every day worked really, really well.
And even if you forget to do it for a few days, I like, I'll
look back on the photos on my phone or my calendar and I'll be
like, Oh yeah, that was a good day.
I've done this, this and this. And then I'll put that in my
journal. So don't worry if you fall
behind. You know what, I think that's I
think that's great for you. You're not going to do it, are
you? Bro, I'm not even thinking about
that, just to be honest with you.
Hey somebody, what do you got? Gay Fuller just gave us a $20
super chat. Here's the start of the new
Stringer Bidet Fund. Let's hold up, hold up.
Since neither one of us have one, I think we should split
that so we can both get 10. I think it has my name on it.
Back me up here, Kurt. Now I'm just joking.
I think we both, I think I've never had a bidet in my home.
I think we need to get one from my house.
Think that's a great idea, John? I think I think if if I could
maybe maybe getting a bidet would actually make me journal.
I'll tell you what, I'll do you one better if it next time I
come to your house. Yeah, if you will have a bidet,
I'll install it for you. Now you got to clean the toilet
before I touch the toilet. But I'm happy to install it for
you. And I'll do you another one
better. I will christen it for you.
You let me be the first person in the Kelly.
Household can't do that. You can't be the first person
that uses my bidet. I guess you're going to have to
install it, John. What?
What can I say? You know, probably I'll just
install it the day I get it. But you know what?
I'll still have you over and I'll let you use it well.
Will you make it one of the heated ones?
Because mine wasn't heated in the water.
The water comes out at the same temperature.
It's coming out like your hot, your cold water line coming into
the house. Yeah.
I'm so I'm up right now. Let's see what we're talking
about here. What is my financial commitment
to this? Well.
I would try to keep it under 100.
I don't know what what you're looking at.
The cheapie from Walmart that Bridget had bought me like 2
Christmases ago was only like 10 bucks.
I looked on there they went up to $30 in the last couple years.
If you want a really good one, you're looking at like 1200
bucks. Well, the Forbes voted best
bidet overall for 2026. It's called the Bio Bidet and
it's $460. Wow, that's pretty.
Cheap. That doesn't look cheap to me.
John. This is electric.
I see an electric bidet toilet seat with remote heated toilet
seat. The seat is heated.
Yeah. Instant warm heater, instant
warm air dryer rear and feminine oscillating cleansing something.
Your wife. It's a. 160, yeah.
But here's the problem that you run into, John.
I don't know about your bathroom but mine has one outlet so not
the master bath. This was in this actually the
bathroom across. From the master bath.
I'm not letting my kids touch this.
Thing, but this was in the bathroom across from my son's
room. So it wasn't in the master bath.
It was in his bathroom, technically, yeah.
And so the only plug in there is like up by the sink.
You know, it's a it's a little bathroom, yeah, sink, toilet,
shower. So you can't like how you
supposed to plug it in. Well, I actually have an outlet
like right by my toilet. Somebody's thinking ahead in the
Kelly household whenever they built that house.
I don't know who built this one, but whoever built yours was
thinking ahead. They were have bidet on the
brain. OK, someone said I need to get
the Toto K300. No, I'll tell you.
Hold on, hold on. I want to look this up because I
want to know what the Toto K300 is.
Oh the Toto is one of the best brands you can get.
Holy. Mother of Mercy $756.
I'm sorry, I can't get that one. Let me see if I can be quick
here, I don't want to look on my phone.
K300 the K307156 dollars. Mr. Backpack, him and Jason,
Sir, one of his buddies. He's now my buddy, too.
I've known him for, you know, 5 or 6 years now.
But he sent me the Toto that he has, Toto Washlet, Toto Washlet
A-100. That's the one you want.
He has that installed in his house.
It's got the remote, it's got the heated seats and it's a name
brand, but that was in 2024 that he sent that to me.
So they're probably. Double now.
Well, I was gonna say all the Washlet S is $410.
The Washlet S7 a $11140. We don't want the s s is much
further down the alphabet. You want the A.
Old unions telling us it's a $756 of warm hygiene.
I love it. It is, yeah.
I'm serious though, if you have a place to plug them in or you
can run hot water to it then I don't even know if they make
them with hot water that you can run hot water to it.
I assume it's got an internal heater that heats the water
before it sprays. It we also said there's probably
a gun XK300. There you go.
That'll be $12.00 John and 90. 9 cents 99. $12.00 doesn't come
with all the screws that you'll need to install it, but it's
only $12.00. It's so funny.
Yeah, I'm going to bring this up to my wife and just see what she
says. She's only like, we're not
buying everything. Let's just stop.
It's not admin. All right, I'm going to do one
last one for you. OK, Good toilet paper.
Oh, now I. Have to agree with that one.
Yeah, that should be with that one.
There's absolutely no way you don't get good toilet paper.
You go to somebody's house and it's unfortunate enough that you
have to do the do and they have crappy toilet paper.
They have that one ply. They have like the free toilet
paper that you steal when you're through hiking.
Yeah. You know, you put like round
your hand and just wrap it a bunch because you know you need
4 times as much because it's one ply.
You got to upgrade the toilet paper game.
You do. It shows how much you care about
your guests, John. Well, and I'm gonna, I want to
add in one of the ones that's on here you didn't mention it says
buy good sheets and pillows. What I'm going to say is instead
of buying good sheets and pillows, just make sure you wash
them more often. How often?
Is there is nothing better than getting in bed right after the
sheets have been washed and they're nice and fluffy and
comfortable? It's just awesome.
What do you do like every two weeks?
Every. Week, every week, every two
weeks, something like that. But I, we washed ours this past
week like we normally would. And, and I'm telling you man,
when I got in the sheets out last night, I, I was like, man,
this is heaven. Are you a daily pillow fluffer?
No. You just just like, oh, this is
how it was. I just put my pillow here and
I'm gonna sleep on it again. My Pillow is a is like one of
those ones that's got a specific place the way it's for people
with bad necks because I mean, if there's an injury, I've had
it and so it's made so that my head always lays the exact same
way every night. Yeah, I didn't even know that.
I've seen the advertisements for the ones that's got like an
armhole. So it's got two different holes,
like you can either lay your arm under or you can turn it the
other way. No, it's not like that, but let
me see if I find a picture of this thing.
He's highfalutin, John is. He's going to have a heated
bidet, a $1200 bidet at his house.
He's got one of those my pillows that hold your neck the same way
every night. Well, I'm going to tell you I
didn't ask. I didn't buy this pillow for
myself. My wife bought it for me because
he knew I was having neck issues and she actually likes me so.
So when you're backpacking, you don't have like neck problems.
I know you do the hammock. So not in the hammock because of
the way I know how to lay the pillow.
So OK, so here we go. And I don't think mine was this
expensive, but this is the kind of pillow.
Let me see if I pull this up so that people can see it.
It was that expensive, John. Your wife bought it.
She just, she just didn't tell you probably right about that.
Here we go, check this out. It's no royalty.
Connected neck pillow so it looks like this so it's 5. 114
dollars. Yeah, minus about 350.
It's kind of like this. So like there's a spot where my
shoulder sits here and my neck I can lay sideways really
comfortably. And yeah, man, it's, it's really
helped me out with my neck issues so.
Cozy rest memory foam Nick pillow.
How would John spell awesome? 75 bucks and it could be yours.
You know, that's honestly not bad if it lasts that long.
Yeah, it's I, I really like it. It's a, I've had it for, well,
since we moved, since before we moved into the new house.
So we've had at least three, 3 1/2 years.
Yeah, cuz you buy the crappy pillows you're gonna have to get
another one in like 6 months. Oh yeah, yeah, they just die on
you. I double.
Step. Somebody asked the question how
would I spell Awesome. It would be Stringer.
Aw, thank. You.
Yeah, that's how I would spell awesome.
Real quick before we hop off here, I thought it would be a
good saving tactic. We have a guest room for now.
Yeah, we'll see if we have another child.
Then I think that we're going to lose the guest room and it's
going to become my office. But we have a guest room and
every guest that spends the night, I say, what can we
improve in this room? And one of them said we need,
you need more furniture. So we went to a yard sale and
bought like a used dresser set and in tables and all that kind
of stuff. You know, 50 bucks and you're
good to go. Well, the biggest complaint I
had was the pillows. And I said, what do you mean?
Because my cost saving tactic was once my pillows wear out,
I'm going to get new pillows and I'll just put those in the guest
room and they can sleep on them. Turns out your guests do not
like that. Who would have ever thought that
your guests wanted nice, fluffy, clean, great smell and unused
pillows? And so, you know, I went to
Walmart and I got us all new pillows, a whole household of
new pillows. I should have got the $75 ones
because they're starting to all wear out at the same time.
Now I'm needing a Round 2 but I'm learning.
You know, we, you know, to take it back to backpacking as we get
ready to close this thing out. I did a pillow video years ago
and I got crucified because my favorite pillow was the Climate
Pillow X. Is that a air up?
Yeah, it's, it's a blow up pillow.
Let me see here. I'm gonna pull this up so you
can see it. And I'm not gonna lie, I love
the pillow. And the reason I love it is
because I'm a side sleeper and it allows my neck to be up just
a little higher than my head. And this pillow is weird looking
as it is. I love the thing and I'm sure
there are people that hate it, but I love these things.
Right now. There's one here at this place
Gear Trade for like 12 bucks. I never heard of that website by
the way. Yeah, neither have I.
So one in stock almost gone. Yeah.
I don't know if I'd use that. Maybe try Amazon?
Well, and if you get, let's see here, let let me see if I can
pull up one. Here's one from backcountry.com.
We'll switch, we'll switch screens to this.
So you can see here we go. OK.
And they've got it in here for 3299 at Backcountry.
So yeah, this pillow right here. I love that pillow and and I
think the reason I like it is because it's like my pillow at
home where my head sits down further and my neck sits up
higher. Yeah, once you get used to it,
your body's craving it. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I've had
people that told me I was absolutely out of my mind and
crazy for liking that pillow. But hey man, to each their own.
I. Agree, I've been wadding up my
puffy jacket and laying on top of it so to each their own.
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't use that in the hammock.
That was my tent one. It's somebody I want to make
comments because wow, Pillow X is.
Awful. I love it.
So. That's true feedback there.
Yeah, but that just goes to show you, man, like especially with
backpacking, just because you like it doesn't mean somebody
else is going to. And just because somebody else
likes it doesn't mean you're going to.
Everything is very personal, so. Like your own hack.
Jeremiah, this has been fun. Agree, man, Pleasure and fun it
has been. It's been a lot of fun and I
hope you all have enjoyed yourselves.
We're going to be back next week with another episode and like I
said, check out that article. It's time to face it.
There's privilege and through hiking, Look that up on
Backpacker magazine and let's talk about it next week.
Let's get uncomfortable, let's get controversial and let's talk
about it. So for myself and Jeremiah
almost pointed the wrong way and had not to point.
Weird. We'll catch you guys on the next
one. You know what's funny, Jeremiah?
What? My buttons switched.