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Yeah, put the team on my back. 
What's going on, folks? 

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And Jeremiah want to ask you a 

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I would love to. 
Here's the deal, man. 

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What do they get up front? 
Get you a little bonus little 

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Right, a signing bonus. 

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Jeremiah, let's talk a little 
bit about you got a trip coming 

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up on. 
Friday, Yeah, I'm actually, I'm 

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planning on taking the carbon, 
their shadow light, the like the

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upgraded shadow light, basically
outdoor vitals. 

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We'll put a link in the 
description if y'all want to 

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check any of this out. 
Outdoor vitals makes all kinds 

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of backpacking gear and I'm 
pretty sure the last trip I was 

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going on it was colder weather 
but I still wanted to take a 

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cooler. 
And dude, I brought my 0° stuff.

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I just couldn't squeeze it all 
into the carpet. 

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It's a big backpack. 
It's 60 liter, I think it's 49 

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internal. 
And then you get the rest on the

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outside pockets and stuff. 
But taking a cooler with you 

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backpacking, I don't know if I 
could really call it 

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backpacking, but this trip I'm 
going with Mr. Backpacking with 

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Jason Sir, and I'm planning on 
taking it out with me and 

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hopefully next week I can give 
you a full report. 

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I can't wait to hear, man, I 
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I'm actually planning a week of 
backpacking in June. 

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So all right, I'll be packed 
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Monday with with DMS Adventures.
We're going to be backpacking in

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the Red River Gorge. 
He's coming up and doing that 

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part of his 10 states in 10 days
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That's going to be happening. 
And I'm looking forward to doing

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that. 
And then coming home, getting 

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everything cleaned up, getting 
the smell off of me, jumping 

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back in the vehicle Tuesday 
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And a bunch of us are heading 
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going to be backpacking for 
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So kind of excited. 
It's going to be a a good five 

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day week for me for backpacking.
It'll be awesome, dude, and I'm 

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sure you'll have a lot of great 
stories to share from that. 

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I'm curious on the Tennessee 
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Are y'all hitting up some State 
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You don't have to say exactly 
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want to, but y'all hitting up 
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Are you going to wilderness 
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Is it somewhere you've been 
before We're. 

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Going to hit a fairly popular 
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I don't know if we've actually 
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we're going to hit up a fairly 
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pretty cool. 
Hey, real quick, I need to to 

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say something. 
Derwin off the Rails just said 

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Hiya J&J, here's your mic money.
Hope all is well $5. 

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And and Jeremiah, we need to say
a little something to our good 

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friend Derwin off the rails, the
the alter ego of Darwin on the 

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trail. 
Will you share with everybody 

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the important occasion? 
Yes, I want to say a happy 

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belated birthday to Darwin. 
I miss you buddy, thinking of 

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you. 
His birthday was on Monday so we

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didn't have a show that day. 
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chance and didn't get to tell 
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So I hope you had a great time. 
Got to spend some good time with

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the family and I can't wait to 
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Back with you again my friend. 
Happy belated to you. 

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Yeah, Happy birthday man. 
Can't wait to see you again in 

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the future. 
I I can't. 

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I think the last time I saw you 
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the river gorge a while back. 
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do, I feel a little bit guilty 
taking his money for his for his

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birthday. 
I feel like we're in a reverse 

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here. 
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We've almost recouped the loss 
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John has, but it's giving John 
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He's having fun, We're doing 
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Are we having a national 
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What's going on here? 
I have I we just discovered this

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5 minutes before this podcast 
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about a minute late because I 
found out I have a sensor button

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now. 
Yeah, you're going to be on 

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there bleeping me. 
What was that, Jeremiah? 

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You know who you need that for? 
Oh my gosh, I'm being censored. 

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Double censored here. 
Kyle hates hiking. 

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Remember the episode? 
The first episode that. 

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We don't. 
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For those that are new to the 
show, we're pretty family 

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friendly here. 
And Kyle, he's a loose cannon on

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his channel. 
He, he doesn't care, he's going 

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all out and we had a good time. 
But I did have to. 

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I didn't have a bleak button at 
the time, so I had to go back 

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and take out some wordy derds so
you can listen with your kids. 

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But. 
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John's got the bleak button, I 
guess. 

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I'm sorry. 
What was that? 

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We can invite Kyle back on now. 
If we could only have a four 

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second delay like they do on 
like live broadcast, that would 

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be great. 
Yeah, yeah, drop that. 

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Somebody dropped that. 
You got to drop it from the 

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show, man. 
Got the delay. 

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So OK, Jeremiah, let's let's 
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There's a there's something you 
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you to explain it. 
I'm just going to read to 

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everybody because of what people
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Maybe people already know this, 
but every week Jeremiah sends me

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a list of stuff he wants to talk
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And, and so we go through the 
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to talk about. 
I'll add something, whatever. 

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But today he, he sends me this 
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and timber companies spraying 
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Roundup. 
It says 10,010 thousand acres in

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2026 national forests. 
Cruise hike, burn areas with 

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backpack sprayers, target 
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conifer seeding, faster 
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But there's a problem with them 
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Yeah, I'll give you a little bit
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Roundup, John, one of my 
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because we do landscaping 
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So I redone all the landscaping 
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black tarp material that you put
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So it's supposed to block them 
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enough plant material, I guess 
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So what do you do? 
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And one of my buddies is like, 
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He's like, that stuff. 
If it'll kill the weeds, it can 

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kill you. 
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technically, I guess if I were 
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probably would poison me. 
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further and. 
There's that's with lawsuits 

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going on against Roundup right 
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Dude, it's so the chemical is 
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Roundup is like the, you know, 
just what you bite Lowe's or 

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whatever, and it is a weed 
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But it's my understanding that 
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basically so that it doesn't die
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And so after doing some digging,
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treating all of our crops, our 
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We're spraying roundup on it and
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Roundup kills literally 
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except for the corn. 
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soybeans. 
What's our other big crops here 

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in the US? 
Corn, soybeans, wheat. 

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I don't know if they do it. 
Y'all can Google it and let me 

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know in the chat if you want. 
I don't know if they do it for 

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weed as well, but I would assume
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I assume that it's making our 
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It's it's hurting the water 
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And so when I saw the headline 
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Forest, I was like, this is 
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I got to look a little further 
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You know, I'm already scared 
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food even though they're 
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too. 
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Jeremiah loves a rabbit trail. 
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Man, he loves him some good 
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He may not be the controversial 
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he loves him some controversy. 
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you had to look at more into 
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because of the food, like, 
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commenting in the chat that 
food, food modification is scary

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stuff. 
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And I guess they've had to do it
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enough food to feed these cows, 
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But I just don't know about 
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So as I looked into it, here's 

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what I found. 
They're using it when I say 

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they, I mean the national for, 
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And I believe they're partnering
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Yeah. 
Timber companies, so these burn 

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areas that happen, these large 
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But for anybody that's taken, 
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you know that plants need the 
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They use photosynthesis and 
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blocked, those plants can't 
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So that's why you, you know, you
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and it kills out smaller things 
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getting the sunlight that they 
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consuming. 
So they're using the Roundup to 

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kill stuff except for the 
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So they're replanting the forest
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Hopefully I'm saying that right 
Stuff that grows cones and 

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that's going to spring up and 
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forest. 
My problem is is that I just 

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don't know. 
I don't know about spraying weed

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killer through 10s of thousands 
of acres of forest to kill out 

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stuff so that your trees grow 
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I get that it blocks the 
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growing and they're competing, 
but I don't know. 

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How do you feel about it? 
I know people in the comments 

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are chatting about the 
glyphosate. 

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Well, according to AK Fuller, 
glyphosate is a broad spectrum 

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systematic herbicide and crop 
desiccant. 

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It is an organosophorous I was 
at the right compound, 

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specifically a phosphonate, 
which acts it by inhibiting the 

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plant enzyme 5. 
I don't know what that means and

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part of me thinks he looked that
up on ChatGPT, but I don't know 

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what that means. 
What I do know is what J Flow 

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here said, which is glycophate 
slash Roundup has been proven to

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cause cancer and birth defects. 
So that is, that is concerning 

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that that to me is more 
concerning than anything else 

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because there's wildlife in 
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And if those wildlife, if it 
doesn't kill the plant right 

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away and wildlife eats from 
those plants, what's it going to

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do to wildlife, I think. 
It's going to poison them. 

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I think it is too. 
I think we're going to have some

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really weird things going on 
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it's inherently dangerous. 
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don't want animals to die 
horrible, slow, painful deaths. 

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Anybody who hunts knows when you
hunt you want the animal. 

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You want a good shot so the 
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doesn't suffer. 
You don't want animals living 

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miserable existences dealing 
with disease or whatever because

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they vape plants that had some 
form of roundup on them. 

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I think that we might have 
talked a little bit about this 

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before, but it's my 
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farm, not big pharma, but 
imagine similar, but farms big 

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farm. 
It's not in their best interest 

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to keep using glyphosate and 
keep doing this mono crop 

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agriculture. 
I mean, in the short term it is 

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because you're making good 
quarterly earnings, but in the 

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long term, you're really 
depleting the soil of nitrogen. 

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And it needs, it needs, I think 
that we're having to add extra 

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just to fertilize the ground in 
order to grow these crops. 

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But it's it's poisoning your 
water table. 

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So what what some farms are 
trying to switch to is using 

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technology instead. 
Instead of doing chemicals, 

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they're doing a fleet of drones 
that ZAP the plants with a laser

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and that's what kills them. 
So there's no chemicals 

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involved. 
Interesting. 

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Yeah, I don't know how powerful 
the laser has to be if we just 

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want Rogue. 
Yeah, I mean, we don't want 

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rogue rogue laser drones flying 
around out there in civilian 

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life, So I don't know about 
that. 

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Also I googled the coniferous 
plants. 

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Yes. 
And I could be totally wrong. 

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Like I say on here all the time,
I'm here for your entertaining 

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pleasure. 
And you are entertaining. 

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Well, thank you, John. 
Hopefully I know Fata, maybe 

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they're predominantly Evergreen 
with needle lock or scale scale 

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like leaves. 
Interesting. 

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Yeah, so I think I'm speaking 
right on this, on saying the the

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seeding that they're doing, you 
know, they're wanting it to grow

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quickly, but they don't want it 
to compete with the other plants

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around there. 
So yeah, I don't know, I, I 

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still don't know how to feel 
about it. 

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But I do think that there's got 
to be some negative side effects

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to spring glyphosate in the 
National Forest, just like 

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there's negative side effects of
springing on your crops, so. 

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Yeah, give another prop. 
Give some more props out to 

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Derwent. 
Off the rails. 

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Math whiz teacher laying down 
some science knowledge. 

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Preach, teach. 
Love it. 

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I dude, I love love love science
dude, because math is the 

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language of science. 
So last night I was laying in 

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bed and I put my Airpod in. 
I can only do one because I'm a 

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side sleeper so if I lay on top 
of the other one it hurts my 

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ear. 
So I'm laying there, and I was 

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listening to this YouTube video 
of what happens whenever black 

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holes collide, and he's talking 
for, like, an hour straight 

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about space and time and the 
ribs and the math involved in 

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the physics. 
And I had to switch, dude. 

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I had to switch. 
I couldn't fall asleep because 

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you're going to find this 
surprising. 

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Maybe not. 
I was so interested in the math,

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I was paying attention to the 
video. 

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You know, you got to pay. 
You got to play the perfect 

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balance. 
We talked about this before. 

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If you're trying to listen to 
something to fall asleep to, 

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it's got to be interesting 
enough that you want to hear it,

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but boring enough that you'll 
fall asleep. 

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Yeah. 
And it was out of balance last 

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night. 
I got to say, John, I was 

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slightly disappointed in myself 
that I was interesting in the 

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math for this space-time rib and
I couldn't fall asleep because I

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was following along. 
Self disappointment, yeah. 

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Well, I'm this whole thing we're
talking about, I'm hearing 

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phrases I've never heard before.
I want to pull up something 

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somebody mentioned just a second
ago. 

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Let me see if I can find it real
quick. 

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It was where was it? 
Come on, here it is right here. 

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It says this is from go E 
hiking. 

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Monoculture forests are not 
healthy. 

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And I was like, what the heck is
that? 

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So I looked it up and that's 
basically a plantation 

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consisting of a single tree 
species, often planted in 

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uniform rows and of the same 
age, primarily for efficient 

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timber, pulp or rubber 
production. 

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While they can facilitate fast 
carbon sequestration, these 

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green deserts are criticized for
low biodiversity, high 

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vulnerability to pests, diseases
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on local soil and water 
resources. 

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So that totally checks out. 
And that that adds a clue to the

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timber companies helping along. 
They're like, yeah, let's grow 

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this as quick as possible so 
that we can cut it and make some

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money off of it. 
Yeah, yeah, while killing the 

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biodiversity and causing more 
pests and other problems in the 

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forest, so. 
It's. 

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A great idea. 
You're saying that we're slowly 

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figuring out probably what half 
of our audience maybe already 

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knew, putting the pieces 
together. 

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But it takes me a minute to put 
the pieces together, John, so 

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stay patient. 
Well, listen, I didn't even know

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we were using Roundup 
International Forest until you 

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sent that to me. 
So, you know, there's, there's 

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that. 
Well, we're here to inform and 

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entertain. 
Oh, by the way, my goldfish 

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drowns. 
Poop, poop, poop. 

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It's poop time. 
They are actively pooping right 

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now while listening to it. 
Just wanted everybody to know 

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everybody live. 
And we just trigger a movement 

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in your life. 
Hanging up poop early in the 

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show? 
Shout out goldfish. 

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Yeah. 
It's all media to seven. 

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That all checks out, John. 
And I gotta say, in the grand 

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scheme of things, probably won't
matter In according to these 

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videos that I'm falling asleep 
to every night, the earth is 

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like 9 billion years old and it 
doesn't really care what we do 

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to it. 
In a billion years, if the Earth

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still exists and hasn't been 
destroyed by something it is 

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going to, we'll probably all be.
Dead. 

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And you believe it's 9 billion 
years old? 

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Yes, you're right. 
Yeah. 

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I have no idea. 
I know it bores me to sleep, so 

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that's a good thing. 
I just agree with J Flow. 

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Biodome movie with Pauly Shore 
was very funny. 

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You know, I do like seeing the 
the little diagrams that show 

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the biodiversity. 
Like I was looking at Facebook 

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the other day and it's like a 
tree that falls in the forest, 

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you know, six months from now. 
These are the stuff living in 

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it, but it goes stage by stage, 
and then five years lighter. 

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It's rotting into the ground. 
And there's all kinds of plants 

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and animals that are utilizing 
as a resource. 

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So nature knows best. 
Who are we to intervene? 

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Yeah, And we're going to have 
the. 

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Idea of spraying chemicals like 
that in the forest just kind of 

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sits really poorly with me. 
I. 

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Agree. 
I agree. 

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All right. 
What else we got, John? 

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Well, Garmin just released the 
brand new in Reach Mini 3 or 

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else they released it a while 
back and we're just behind same 

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messaging system SOSG PS: better
battery life, improved ease of 

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use with the app, satellite 
acquisition interface and 

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they're coming in at 499 Mini 3 
Plus, which includes voice and 

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pic messages and 449. 
Did You Know? 

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About the picture, I mean, we 
are a little bit behind on them 

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releasing this. 
It's like at the end of last 

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year I think but or maybe 
January of this year. 

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But did you know about being 
able to send and receive picture

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messages? 
No, this is the first I 

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honestly, I use the Zolio and 
I've been using it now for seven

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years and it still works just as
well as it did day one. 

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So I've had no reason to switch 
anything. 

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So. 
Elon Musk has been claiming for 

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the past 10 years that we are 
six months away from having 

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Starlink all over the world, and
I can send messages anytime I 

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want and get on the Internet. 
I guess we're still six months 

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away from that. 
But I don't think it's worth me.

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It's not worth it to me since I 
already have an in reach mini. 

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Not even the in reach mini too, 
I don't think. 

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I think it's just the old 
regular mini in reach. 

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I'd say I do like the touch 
screen though. 

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Yeah, I read on there that it is
the user interface is better and

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the touch screen that is an 
upgrade because those little 

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buttons on the side, that's like
you remember, remember whenever 

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you had the old phones and you 
had to click, like if you wanted

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to put C, you had to click 2 
multiple times. 

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Yeah. 
So that is an upgrade. 

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And I'd love to be able to send 
and receive the picture 

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messages. 
I'm afraid honestly, if I change

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anything, my price is going to 
go up. 

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I think I'm grandfathered in 
under their old contract. 

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That this is how much it cost 
until I change it yeah. 

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So I pay 25 a month and it gets 
you whatever, whatever package 

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that is or whatever it was five 
years ago whenever I started 

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paying it. 
So I don't know, I'm a little 

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bit afraid that if I change it, 
it's kind of like when you have 

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a certain TV or Internet 
provider or phone provider and 

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you're like, yeah, let me change
this. 

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And you're like, well, actually 
you had a promotion and if you 

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change it, we're going to triple
the price. 

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So you're going to have to use 
this technology from 2007. 

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And you're just like, yes, 
thanks. 

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I'll just keep this old 
technology. 

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Yeah, I mean, if it works well, 
why? 

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Why change it? 
OK, let's look at their 

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subscription plans since we're 
sitting here talking about. 

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It you know, why not? 
Let's tell everybody how much it

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cost. 
It's 4 or $500 if you want the 

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device. 
I know iPhones gotten better at 

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the satellite, you know, being 
able to text while you're in the

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woods. 
I never do use it. 

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I always take my Garmin. 
So now is the in reach flex team

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plans, is that what it is or is 
it in reach consumer plans? 

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That's what it is all right. 
The in reach consumer, The in 

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reach consumer plans, the first 
one is 799 a month that is 

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enabled, which means what do you
get this? 

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You activate your in reach 
subscription to stay in touch 

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with friends and family, be on 
the limits of cellular networks.

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In an emergency, you can trigger
an interactive SOS. 

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All plans include SOS messaging.
Other accessible features will 

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vary by device. 
Let's see, here we go, the 

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different plans, OK, You've got 
your enabled plan, which is 799,

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your essential plan which is 
1499, the standard which is 30, 

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and the premium which is 4999. 
And the difference is here's the

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differences with all the plans 
except for the enabled plan, 

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which is the cheapest. 
You have unlimited satellite 

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check in messages and reactions.
Like the pre programmed 

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messages, you click on the 
device you're like hey I've 

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reached camp or whatever you 
have it programmed ahead of 

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time. 
Yeah, just so people know you're

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alive. 
So those are freebies. 

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Those are freebies, satellite 
texts. 

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You get 50 with the essential 
plan, 150 with the standard plan

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unlimited with the premium and 
enabled gives you it cost you 

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$0.50 each. 
Yeah, that's. 

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The good old days when you had 
to pay $0.10 a text message. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And then you've got photo and 

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voice messages. 
You get 10 photo and voice 

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messages a month with the 
essential plan, 25 with the 

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standard, 50 with the premium, 
and then you pay a dollar a 

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message with the enabled. 
And Garmin has it such figured 

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out because I would just 
deactivate it and then like 

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let's say that you go on 2 trips
a year, right? 

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And you don't really use the 
Garmin. 

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I had the unlimited because I 
was taking it on motorcycle 

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rides and then I was going 
backpack, especially in like 

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summer break, I was going twice 
a week. 

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So I was like I'm using this 
thing all the time. 

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I was travel, I was flying to 
different places backpacking and

452
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,400
then I found out it cost 40 
bucks to reactivate it. 

453
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,480
If you like, cancel the plan. 
Because if you're. 

454
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,520
Only going a couple times a 
year. 

455
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,600
It might be more economical to 
literally just be like well the 

456
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,960
week before I go I'm going to 
pay the activation in the 

457
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,440
monthly fee and then I'll cancel
it when I get back. 

458
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,840
But I don't seem to economical 
now. 

459
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,240
Yeah. 
Well, they're saying the 

460
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:37,160
activation fee is 3999 like you 
said, then you've got overage 

461
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,240
charges. 
What do you mean? 

462
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,240
So that's messages and weather 
requests. 

463
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,840
If you go over your allotment, 
it's $0.50 each on all of them 

464
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,400
except for the unlimited because
there is no overage there to get

465
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,320
you on that. 
Yeah. 

466
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,520
And then you've got the 
satellite photo and voice 

467
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,880
messages, a dollar each until, 
yeah, it's a dollar each for all

468
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,960
of them because none of them are
unlimited on that one. 

469
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,240
And then LTE is is on every 
single one of them. 

470
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,720
So if you happen to have LTEI 
guess you can use that instead. 

471
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,760
It's if you use LTE and you can 
pick up LTE service, 

472
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,200
everything's free. 
It says text messages, voice 

473
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,640
messages, voice calling and live
track location sharing. 

474
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,520
All four of those are free. 
Yeah, but it's only it's only 

475
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,920
for their watches. 
Yeah, it is. 

476
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,280
You're right. 
And I'm still mad about the 

477
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,680
watch. 
Dude, that the the sapphire that

478
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,920
I had, I think it lasted Me 2 
1/2 years, which sounds like a 

479
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,000
long time till you're like, it's
a $700.00 watch. 

480
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,720
Yeah, let me see how much they 
are. 

481
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,400
Hey I want to say something real
quick Go my goldfish drown asks 

482
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,000
are we going to start a GoFundMe
for Suge? 

483
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,160
I feel like we're we should help
him. 

484
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,960
There is a GoFundMe for Suge. 
I'm not sure what the link is 

485
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,280
off the top of my head but his 
daughter had already started 1 

486
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,240
so there is one. 
If you go out there and look for

487
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,360
it you should be able to find 
it. 

488
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,640
I think actually when he 
announced that he had cancer he 

489
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,080
put a link to it in his video. 
So if you guys want to go find 

490
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,080
that, you can get that link and 
you can help Suge out. 

491
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,200
Just wanted to throw that out 
there cuz I saw the message for 

492
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,440
those who don't know who Sugar 
is. 

493
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,000
By the way, if you're listening 
to you on who the heck is Sugar?

494
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,320
Sugar Emery is a legend in 
backpacking when it comes to 

495
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,880
hammock backpacking and he's 
just the man. 

496
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,720
He's done everything in this 
life. 

497
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,560
He was a professional clown, 
traveled with Ringling Brothers 

498
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,760
and Barnum and Bailey Circus, 
grew up overseas, incredible 

499
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,120
man. 
And this past year he has he has

500
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,200
cancer and it's a blood cancer. 
It's pretty, pretty rare and 

501
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,440
pretty brutal. 
He's got high hopes that he's 

502
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,600
going to be fine and we're 
praying that he is. 

503
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,080
But if you want to help him out,
definitely go over and check out

504
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,560
his channel and and do that. 
So he's awesome. 

505
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,840
Yeah. 
Legendary Hamaker. 

506
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:55,960
Absolutely, Absolutely. 
OK, to wrap up on this Garmin 

507
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,560
situation here, John, I did look
up the watch. 

508
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,760
They're now 800 for the. 8. 
I think I had the six and it was

509
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,600
like 650. 
I paid for it plus tax of 

510
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,560
course. 
And if you want to get the MO MO

511
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:19,520
LED, they're 1200 or if you want
the 51 millimeter 1300 or if you

512
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,040
want the micro LED, $1700, bro. 
Dude, they've got something 

513
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,320
that's more expensive. 
Than Apple isn't that, it's a 

514
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,960
think about that. 
It's more expensive than Apple. 

515
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,920
Well, if that's if you're really
deep in it, then I get it, Like 

516
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,800
if you're using that as a dive 
watch or something. 

517
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,240
But 51 millimeters? 
Dude, what size watch do you 

518
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,160
wear? 
Are your daily watch wear you 

519
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,160
Apple Watch? 
Guy Apple, I got my Apple Watch 

520
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,760
Ultra. 
Yeah, yeah. 

521
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,480
So what size is? 
No I have a I don't have the 

522
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,400
watch that I use for when I'm 
backpacking and stuff but this 

523
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,960
is my my everyday. 
OK. 

524
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,360
Is that a 38? 
No, no, no, no, 42. 

525
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,440
It's bigger than that. 
The ultras are a little bit 

526
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,640
bigger. 
I think it's 46 or 48 or 

527
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,120
something like that. 
OK, I do a like a 42 and I feel 

528
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:09,080
like like I have big hands, you 
know, I can grip a basketball. 

529
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,720
I'm a tall guy. 
I'm 6 foot 4, but a 51 

530
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,760
millimeter. 
I don't know if that is a flex 

531
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,800
or if that would just look 
really large on my. 

532
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,000
Maybe I have just little wimpy 
wimpy eely little wimpy wrist. 

533
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,480
Maybe that's my issue. 
You're a big boy. 

534
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,800
I wouldn't say you have wimpy 
wrists. 

535
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,920
Little wing. 
Look at this. 

536
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,880
The Phoenix 8 Pro is like $2100 
according to Chicken Little 

537
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,600
Tricks. 
Although he lives in Canada. 

538
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280
So like a isn't it like a loaf 
of bread? 

539
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,560
Like 2600 bucks. 
No, he doesn't live in Canada, 

540
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,960
he lives in. 
No, that's right. 

541
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,800
He lives. 
That's right. 

542
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,600
I can't remember if it's Salmon 
outdoors, that's who is Salmon's

543
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,880
from from Canada, Chicken Little
from down here in the States. 

544
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,280
Yeah, I think he Tennessee. 
I had to text him. 

545
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,640
I can't remember. 
He drove up and met us at well, 

546
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,520
whenever I had the the stomach 
bug and all the diarrhea and 

547
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,480
stuff, I got to spend. 
But that's who surprised me with

548
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,000
the coffee that you chastised me
for drinking with the the bubble

549
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,200
guts. 
You're like McDonald's coffee 

550
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,680
with a McDonald's biscuits and 
gravy. 

551
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,640
That was, those were the worst 
combo choices you could have had

552
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,040
for. 
Them terrible man. 

553
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,160
Oh, and Chicken Little tricks is
from Alabama, by the way. 

554
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,800
Alabama, Alabama somebody was 
somebody's making a comment 

555
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,400
about stuff that you hear Suge 
say. 

556
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,680
These are the two things that 
Suge is known for. 

557
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,200
Whoo. 
Buddy and it's all secure in 

558
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,520
sector 7. 
He has been a part of our 

559
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,040
podcast for a very, very long 
time. 

560
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,440
We love some Suge. 
Yeah, we do love sugar. 

561
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720
You want to talk about this bear
attack? 

562
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:44,080
Yeah man, apparently May 4th 
2026 there was a a grizzly bear 

563
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,680
attack on the Mystic Falls trail
near Old Faithful and two 

564
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,240
hikers. 
It was a not they were non fatal

565
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,280
injuries and the last fatality 
was in 2015. 

566
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,280
Jeremiah, how likely are you to 
have a grizzly bear attack? 

567
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,520
In Yellowstone, well, you know, 
like you said, the last one 

568
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,960
being in 2015, the chances are 
low. 

569
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,880
And actually, we haven't 
confirmed that this is a 

570
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,240
grizzly. 
OK. 

571
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,040
And by the way, how dare that 
grizzly attack on Star Wars Day?

572
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,920
I know man, if anything they 
should be like making Chewbacca 

573
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,360
noises or something. 
Yeah, the the gall on this 

574
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,480
grizzly. 
No, David Cooper. 

575
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,480
David Cooper, you're going to 
get on the you're going to get 

576
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,320
on the Red List, dude. 
They must have been in a 

577
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,120
hammock. 
They were hiking. 

578
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,400
David Cooper. 
They were. 

579
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,040
Hiking and this is actually a 
sad story not to bring down the 

580
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,240
mood I am making a lot of it by 
making jokes. 

581
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,000
But honestly it was like it was 
a grown man. 

582
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,480
And I saw I looked into it more 
and watched some news clips and 

583
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,880
stuff and there was like a local
news network that covered it. 

584
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,080
And they interviewed the guy 
that found the victims and one 

585
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,400
of the victims was a grown man 
and this guy that found him 

586
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,080
followed the bear tracks. 
They showed a video of the 

587
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,800
tracks and is giant grizzly bear
paw prints or allegedly grizzly 

588
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,480
and he followed the tracks and 
found a bloody hat. 

589
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,200
I'm reading it right now, yeah. 
And then he he kept going and he

590
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,080
could hear the guy screaming for
help and the guy's face is like 

591
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,080
half torn off. 
I can't believe he didn't die 

592
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,240
and he he was all messed up and 
had his 14 year old brother is 

593
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,280
what the news channel said. 
I don't know how true that is 

594
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,680
but 14 year old brother with him
that also got attacked. 

595
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,040
I don't know how bad the 
injuries were for the kid, but 

596
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,920
that's rough, man. 
Chances are low. 

597
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,640
And I don't know, some people 
are saying that it's because the

598
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,960
bears were hibernating and 
they're hungry and they're 

599
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,560
waking up. 
I don't know how much stock I 

600
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,480
put into that. 
I thought it was kind of a urban

601
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,600
myth that bears really like 
crawl into a cave for six months

602
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,080
and hibernate. 
It's more of like a we don't eat

603
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,440
as much during this period of 
time. 

604
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:02,720
Yeah, there's something I've 
learned though, about about 

605
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,800
bears in general. 
Typically if you're in groups of

606
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,720
three or more, they tend to just
stay away. 

607
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240
It is one of the number one 
things you can do to like avoid 

608
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,840
bear attacks is to travel in a 
group. 

609
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520
But this guy went by himself. 
I mean, he had, he had another 

610
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,480
person, but like you said, 
that's not a group of three. 

611
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Yeah, and, and it just seems 
like when you're in groups of 

612
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,160
three, they just stay away 
because they hear all the 

613
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,840
different voices and it it 
doesn't sound like something 

614
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:32,040
they want to have to deal with. 
Did you read specifically 

615
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,320
anything about the trail? 
I know it's a it's a semi busy 

616
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,280
trail Mystic Falls, but I don't 
I wonder how much foot traffic 

617
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,480
there be on there because you 
think that if there's a lot of 

618
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,000
people using that trail wouldn't
be a whole lot of bear activity.

619
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Yeah, I don't know, man. 
I don't know. 

620
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,160
Says 4 million visitors a year 
in Yellowstone. 

621
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Yes. 
I mean, you would think with all

622
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,760
that traffic that wouldn't have,
which makes me wonder, I guess. 

623
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,120
He said he saw bear tracks 
though, didn't he? 

624
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,480
The guy that found the victim 
said he saw the bear tracks but 

625
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,320
not the actual victims. 
I think it just run up on them. 

626
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Just caught him out of nowhere. 
One or more bears. 

627
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,160
So there's probably a chance 
that they walked up on some 

628
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,360
babies and Mama freaked out. 
That could be, let me give you 

629
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,200
the four things that you can do 
to try to help protect yourself 

630
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,920
from a bear attack. 
So you really want to be 

631
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,760
preventative like John said and 
travel in a Group 3 or more 

632
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,680
people, but also make noise. 
Like I remember when I first 

633
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,280
started getting into the YouTube
hiking and we talked to Dixie 

634
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,040
last week. 
Great episode by the way. 

635
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,120
If you haven't checked it out, 
go back and check out last 

636
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,480
week's episode. 
But I remember her like clacking

637
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,160
her trekking poles together and 
like literally yelling hey bear 

638
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800
as she was hiking along the AT 
by herself. 

639
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,360
So making noise loud, calling 
out whenever you're going around

640
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,520
corners and that kind of thing. 
Here's another thing you can do,

641
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,960
bear spray. 
I remember one of my buddies 

642
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,280
when I first started hiking, 
loaned me a tent and he was 

643
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,960
telling me about a trip that he 
took out West and he didn't have

644
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,160
a firearm with him. 
And they could not believe that 

645
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,720
whenever he's getting his his 
permits and all that it flown 

646
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,720
out there didn't want to fly 
with a a handgun. 

647
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,440
So they had basically lent him 
one. 

648
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,840
They were like, you leave your 
driver's license with us and 

649
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,600
we'll give you this gun and then
you bring it back to us. 

650
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,040
So. 
And he did it and they said you 

651
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640
could get attacked by a Mountain
Lion out here. 

652
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,360
Yeah. 
So I thought you. 

653
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Can't even talk to Dixie. 
She saw a Mountain Lion out 

654
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,760
West. 
Yes, and this, you know, 

655
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,520
Yellowstone it bear spray is 
where I would go to, but my main

656
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,840
issue with that is you have to 
buy it when you get there. 

657
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,400
You you know, like I assume that
a lot of people that use bear 

658
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,200
spray, they have the same bear 
spray and you just keep it at 

659
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,920
your house until it expires. 
Like you take it on a trip and 

660
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,240
bring it back home. 
Like you almost never use it. 

661
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,520
Well, the hope is you never use 
it. 

662
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,840
Yes. 
And by the way, I found mine. 

663
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,280
It was over here in my storage 
stuff and I checked and it had 

664
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,320
expired. 
And so I went out and tried to 

665
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,320
spray it and it, it was like 
when I say wimpy, there's a 

666
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,080
reason why is it expired. 
I don't know if there's O rings 

667
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,440
in there that wear out or 
something that causes it to lose

668
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480
pressure or what, but bear 
spray. 

669
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,120
And then the last thing, 
situational awareness is better 

670
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,080
than your gear and nothing's 
going to protect you fully. 

671
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,280
Even like if you had a handgun, 
you know, a bear, I'd say you 

672
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,880
can empty a full clip into its 
belly and it's going to still 

673
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,440
come at you if it wanted to. 
You know a grizzly that wants to

674
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,719
eat you just. 
Always remember that animals in 

675
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,280
the woods are wild. 
We don't have any love for you. 

676
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,480
They don't trust you. 
It drives me nuts when you go 

677
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,159
down to you go down to Tennessee
and you see people trying to get

678
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,520
as close to bears as they can 
and take pictures of them and 

679
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,280
it's just, it's just absolutely 
the dumbest thing you can do. 

680
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,680
These, these are wild animals. 
They don't trust you. 

681
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,280
Some of them see you as 
potential food. 

682
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,720
Just stay away from them. 
You know, just stay away. 

683
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,160
UGQ outdoors in here. 
What's up, Chad? 

684
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,080
Good to see you. 
But I also kill quest was in 

685
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,480
here. 
I saw just a little bit ago, 

686
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,280
Woodall Trails has gotten into 
the game. 

687
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,760
Brian Winterburn just showed up.
We got man, there's a lot of 

688
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,280
people in here today. 
It's good to see everybody. 

689
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,240
Jeremiah, I'm going to get some 
homework for everybody for next 

690
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:30,440
week. 
All right? 

691
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,280
I don't want to talk about it 
today, but Backpacker magazine 

692
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,040
came up with a very 
controversial article and it's 

693
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,320
called It's time to face it. 
There's privilege in through 

694
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,040
hiking. 
OK, I want everybody who's 

695
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,240
listening or watching right now 
go read this article and I'm 

696
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:51,440
really interested to see the 
comments next week on this one 

697
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,400
because I think there's already 
1 backpacker on Facebook who has

698
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,320
given his opinion on it and it 
was it was pretty impressive. 

699
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,760
So it just everybody go read 
this article. 

700
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,400
You can go to backpacker.com and
and it's it's on there, but it's

701
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,240
literally called it's time to 
face it. 

702
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:14,120
There's privilege in through 
hiking and I'm just curious what

703
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,480
everybody thinks. 
I'm just going to leave it at 

704
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,440
that, Jeremiah. 
I haven't. 

705
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Read it yet? 
I'm excited to read it. 

706
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,040
Definitely got opinion. 
I've got one but I'm not going 

707
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,040
to give it right. 
Now, whoever was the editor that

708
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,560
came up with that title? 
It looks like Maggie Slepian is 

709
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,240
the one who. 
Who wrote it? 

710
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,720
Shout out Maggie, because that 
was very that's very clickable. 

711
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,000
You say so myself. 
Yep. 

712
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,960
Yeah, I'm excited. 
I'm really, I'm really 

713
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,040
interested to to hear people's 
thoughts and opinions on that 

714
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,880
one. 
So, OK, Jeremiah. 

715
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,840
Look, can I ask you about the 
coyote real quick? 

716
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,400
I was actually going there just 
now. 

717
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,160
You. 
You've sent me something about a

718
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,560
coyote swimming 2 miles to 
Alcatraz. 

719
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,760
Yeah, dude. 
So Alcatraz, it's this island 

720
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,560
prison, right? 
San Francisco, they built this 

721
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:06,680
island prison and they've done 
it so that if you tried to 

722
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,800
escape, there's nowhere to go. 
I think there's like a allegedly

723
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,440
one guy that may have escaped 
and swam the channel to get back

724
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,720
over to the mainland. 
But if you've seen any of the 

725
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:20,560
documentaries about this place, 
that water does not look 

726
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,600
swimmable. 
Like it's super cold. 

727
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,640
Oh yeah, You think about. 
That'd be Pacific Ocean, right? 

728
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,640
So the way that the. 
Just think of San Francisco 

729
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,880
right now. 
Yeah, imagine what's in that 

730
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,000
water. 
Yeah, not good. 

731
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,840
Come on now. 
And you think about the ocean 

732
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,160
currents so that the, the way 
that they're coming, they're 

733
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,920
going up the Asian coast and 
then coming in the Northern 

734
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,400
hemisphere and then coming up 
through around the Arctic area 

735
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,320
and then going down the West 
Coast of the US. 

736
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,720
So you get cold water, right? 
That's why you got to wear a wet

737
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,240
suit to, you know, to swim or 
surf up there, right? 

738
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,280
So San Francisco, cold water's 
rushing. 

739
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:06,640
Apparently there's a coyote that
swam the 2 miles over to the 

740
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,360
island. 
Now nobody can say for sure, but

741
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,680
the people that study coyotes, 
they think that the most logical

742
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,200
reason why the coyote swam there
was it was competition for 

743
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,880
territory and the coyote wasn't 
cutting it on the mainland. 

744
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,200
I don't know how it would have 
even known that there was an 

745
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,640
island out there. 
I guess maybe their eyesight's 

746
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080
good enough that they could see 
it, but I would assume not. 

747
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,000
I didn't think dogs could see 
that well, I thought it was more

748
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,960
of a nose thing and swam all the
way over there. 

749
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,360
Here's the kicker, they were 
surprised and then it left and 

750
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,480
they did not see it anywhere 
else. 

751
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,280
So what do you think did? 
It's sadly not. 

752
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,400
Are you able to make the swim 
back or do you live in the the 

753
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,360
happy land? 
I think he just stayed over at 

754
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,920
Alcatraz. 
Like I'm not doing that again. 

755
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Well. 
I think the islands fall enough 

756
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,440
that they know it's not there 
anymore. 

757
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,080
Man, it had to go somewhere. 
I've got a buddy, Darren 

758
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,440
Wendell's, his name. 
He actually does Wendell fishing

759
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,240
and he's got a really big 
channel. 

760
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:13,560
He's he's a great guy, but he 
swam Lake, MI and it put him in 

761
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:20,120
the hospital like and he swam 
from Michigan to Illinois like. 

762
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:26,440
FYI went to Lake MI in July, 
mid-july, water temperature 52. 

763
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,640
Yeah, yeah, July. 
Yeah, but he swam. 

764
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,200
That did all kinds of damage to 
his body, like the waves and the

765
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,960
push, the the rubbing up against
him. 

766
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,560
And not to sound gross, but one 
of his nipples was almost 

767
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,480
completely rubbed off. 
So yeah. 

768
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,520
And that was, you know, now 
that's a little further than 

769
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,480
Alcatraz, but, I mean, that's a 
long swim. 

770
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,400
And he swam that whole thing and
it put him in the hospital. 

771
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,840
I can't imagine what it did to 
that dog. 

772
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,000
Dogs are not the world's best 
swimmers. 

773
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,440
Yeah, and two miles. 
For a dog, that's a lot. 

774
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,440
Yeah, yeah, Speaking of the 
nipple. 

775
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Thing I don't like coyotes. 
So big dumb dog. 

776
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,040
You deserved it. 
Yeah, not a Coyote fan. 

777
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Not in the cities. 
I feel like they've penetrated 

778
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,760
pretty much all the large cities
now. 

779
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,720
And they'll they'll eat your dog
or cat like your house dog. 

780
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:21,840
Small dog in Kentucky. 
They're terrible here. 

781
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Yeah, you can. 
You can hear them. 

782
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,240
You can hear them like just 
backpacking, hanging out in the 

783
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,080
wood, even here at the house. 
There are very few animals that 

784
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,480
you are allowed to hunt year 
round with no limit, and coyotes

785
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,080
are one of them. 
Yeah, we used to, this might 

786
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,960
ruffle some feathers, but we 
used to sit up like there was a 

787
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,720
cow, a horse trailer or a cow 
trailer. 

788
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:47,480
You sit up on top and you can 
put like a call and it sounds 

789
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:53,160
like, like a dying hair or a 
dying baby deer or something 

790
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,920
like that. 
And the coyotes hear it and they

791
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,640
it's a terrible sound. 
By the way, have you ever heard 

792
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,760
this? 
No, but I have to post this 

793
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,400
during off the Rails asked me a 
question. 

794
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:08,520
He says do you call one nip Now 
say no, we don't call him that, 

795
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,480
but that's really funny. 
I have to let him know you said 

796
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,080
that. 
That's funny. 

797
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,240
But you put the call out in the 
field and then you sit up away 

798
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:18,800
from it and you wait for the 
coyotes to come in and boom. 

799
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,520
And the reason why we're doing 
it, this was on a farm. 

800
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,760
So you don't want them getting 
into your baby cows or your 

801
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,240
lambs or anything like that. 
They will literally, you know, a

802
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,960
baby cow, you're looking at 
losing hundreds, potentially 

803
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,680
thousands of dollars down the 
line, but you've invested a lot 

804
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,200
of money into having that cow, 
like months and months of work 

805
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,440
and energy and money into 
producing one cow. 

806
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,680
Yep. 
And then it's just gone just 

807
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,320
like that. 
But anyway, back to the nipple. 

808
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:50,160
So, John, I don't know. 
I don't think it's ever been 

809
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,160
said in a podcast in the United 
States. 

810
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Now back to the nipple. 
Now back to the old one nip. 

811
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,600
Old one nip, So on the nipple. 
And all serious though, if 

812
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,600
you're into if you're into kayak
fishing, you got to check out 

813
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,280
Darren's Channel. 
Wendell fishing fantastic. 

814
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,400
Wendell fishing Fantastic. 
I love it. 

815
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,960
You know, when I was cutting all
this weight, try to have a 

816
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,880
healthier lifestyle and stuff. 
I'll tell you the worst part of 

817
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,240
it is probably that I absolutely
love playing basketball and that

818
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,040
was the perfect form of cardio 
for me. 

819
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,720
Because you're exercising, but 
it's not boring. 

820
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,720
I'd hate just running on 
treadmill or something. 

821
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,080
So the problem with that is 
playing basketball five days a 

822
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:35,760
week and you're a heavyset guy 
and some of that fat is sitting 

823
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,440
up here around the nipples. 
And so, I mean, I didn't wear a 

824
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,600
sports bra or anything, but you 
get a lot of rubbing. 

825
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,160
You seen the guys running the 
marathon? 

826
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,640
Even the skinny guys get the 
rubbing on the shirt and they'll

827
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,160
put like band aids over their 
nipples. 

828
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,720
I'd do that sometimes playing 
basketball because if you do 

829
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,960
five days a week, you'll 
literally get rubbed to the 

830
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,600
point where you are actively 
bleeding and ain't nobody 

831
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,120
wanting to. 
Like, imagine you're playing 

832
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,960
basketball and you're trying to 
back a guy down in the post and 

833
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,320
you're bumping up against him, 
but he's literally got blood 

834
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,800
running from his nipples. 
Nobody wants to play with that 

835
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,920
guy. 
So I did not want to be that 

836
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,640
guy. 
And so sometimes you got to take

837
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,000
them up and just be an athlete. 
Although I wasn't an athlete at 

838
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,320
the time, I was I was trying to 
cut the weight and become an 

839
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:18,800
athlete. 
You. 

840
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,600
Were a heavy athlete. 
Yeah, I was heavyweights. 

841
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,960
You were a heavyweight. 
That's OK. 

842
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,320
I mean, they're heavyweight 
boxers, heavyweight wrestlers. 

843
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,360
And I'm not talking pro 
wrestling, I'm talking 

844
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,040
wrestling. 
Wrestling. 

845
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,160
There's heavyweights in the UFC,
you know, offensive lineman in 

846
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,080
the NFL, defensive lineman in 
the NFL. 

847
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,680
They're heavyweights. 
Well, they have it the best 

848
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,760
because you know these guys 
fighting that like a weight 

849
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,480
class of 145 or something, 
they're having to cut weight. 

850
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Those guys are walking around at
160 and having to dehydrate so 

851
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,480
much that they're losing 15 lbs 
for a fight. 

852
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,320
Yeah. 
Not the heavyweights we're going

853
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,000
to eat before we weigh in. 
We're heavy. 

854
00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:01,440
Yeah, yeah, during Off the Rim, 
he made a little mistake there. 

855
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,200
This is really funny. 
He let me see if I can find it. 

856
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,560
He goes, he goes. 
Not if you play shorts and 

857
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,800
skins. 
Oh gosh. 

858
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,400
And then he goes, oh, wait, 
wait, wait, wait, wait. 

859
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,440
He goes, there's no shirts. 
Shirts. 

860
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,000
I got to be honest with you, I 
don't do shorts and skins. 

861
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,760
That's definitely not what I do.
I also do not participate. 

862
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,880
I don't want to be. 
I don't want to play that guy 

863
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,040
either. 
You don't want him backing you 

864
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,920
down to the post either? 
No, no, I think I will. 

865
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,640
Accuse people if they just if 
they're tuning in halfway 

866
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,480
through and they're, they're 
hearing us talk about nibbles 

867
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,120
and and playing without shorts 
on. 

868
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,800
Yeah, last week it was breast 
milk. 

869
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:46,040
This week's Shorts and Skids, 
well, very family friendly. 

870
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,120
I will tell you, John, there's 
five things that I did in my 

871
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,640
life that helped create balance 
and I still try to practice them

872
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,800
today. 
And so if anybody's trying to go

873
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,760
through the same things that I 
went through with the weight 

874
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,440
loss and making sure your life 
is in balance and all that, I 

875
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,640
think I've mentioned these in 
the past. 

876
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,960
I'm going to be brief here. 
Light. 

877
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,640
You want 30 minutes of sunlight 
a day and nothing bright at 

878
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,160
night. 
That means like stop looking at 

879
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,480
your phone at 11:00 PM. 
At least that's what I do 

880
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,200
Movement. 
That means cardio and resistance

881
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,760
training. 
Everything from running to 

882
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,880
weight lifting. 
All of it. 

883
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,760
Nutrition, Balancing your macro 
and your micronutrients. 

884
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,160
Don't have time on today's show 
to go deep into that sleep. 

885
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,720
I try to do 8 plus hours a night
since we had the baby 

886
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,920
hysterastically. 
Reduced. 

887
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,920
I can't remember the last time I
got 8 plus hours a night. 

888
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,040
That's just a goal. 
Yeah, well, OK, you got to, you 

889
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,200
got to aim for something or 
you'll miss everything. 

890
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,880
And then lastly, connection. 
That means you're not isolated. 

891
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,960
You have some type of social 
connection, whether it's a group

892
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,960
of friends or whatever situation
you're in, but. 

893
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,920
Well, and I just read it when 
you talk about that one 

894
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,640
specifically, I actually studied
up on this a few weeks ago and 

895
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:03,400
the the the development of 
paranoia almost always comes 

896
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,720
from isolation. 
Tell me more. 

897
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,880
Basically, when you were by 
yourself, what ends up happening

898
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,600
is there are, since there's no 
other people in your life, you 

899
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,640
become the most important person
in your world. 

900
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:17,920
And in the process of that, you 
become the only person in your 

901
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,520
world. 
So other people don't really 

902
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,040
matter. 
And in the process of that, you 

903
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,560
just assume that everybody 
around you is against you 

904
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,640
because you're the best in the 
world and everybody wants to be 

905
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,040
you. 
And they they're jealous. 

906
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,600
And it turns into a really crazy
situation. 

907
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,880
There's been a lot of 
psychological studies on it. 

908
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,160
And yeah, isolation is not a 
good thing. 

909
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,840
We need people, that's for sure.
And. 

910
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,200
You start getting that main 
character energy going. 

911
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Yeah, yeah, that's where it 
comes from. 

912
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,440
I don't think that we have time 
to do all these. 

913
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,560
And honestly, I only wrote down 
13 of them because I missed the 

914
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,800
other two and I was too lazy to 
like do a deep dive to find 

915
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,400
them. 
But John, I was wondering if we 

916
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,440
could wrap with some things that
are cheap and would help you 

917
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,840
improve your life. 
And you, you let me know if this

918
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,880
is terrible or if you are going 
to do some of these things. 

919
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,600
So like I said, I don't know if 
we have time to do them all, but

920
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,880
one of them is throw out all 
your socks and replace them with

921
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:27,600
20 pairs of the exact same size 
and color, shape cut everything.

922
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,040
So then every time you wash 
socks, you don't have to worry 

923
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,520
about matching them. 
And if one gets a hole, you can 

924
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,440
just throw it away and keep 
using the other 19. 

925
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,680
So what do you think? 
Are you headed to the store or 

926
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,920
are you getting on Amazon and 
ordering new socks right now? 

927
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,240
No. 
Oh, you're just going to keep. 

928
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,960
You're just going to keep using 
the same old socks. 

929
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,880
I mean, yeah. 
Yeah, me too dude, I thought 

930
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,760
this was a bad one. 
I can't afford that. 

931
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,360
Whoever wrote this, when I was 
like, what they're wearing, like

932
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,280
like Nike elite socks in a suit,
like what's going on? 

933
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,880
I got suit socks. 
I got no show socks. 

934
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,560
I got crew cuts. 
I got ankle cuts. 

935
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,200
I mean a man needs more than one
style of sock. 

936
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,680
What if you wear shorts? 
You don't want to be wearing the

937
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,240
same like socks for your shorts 
as you are with your suit. 

938
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,640
Yeah, it's ridiculous. 
Hey, I do want to say something 

939
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,520
though, J Flow. 
There's a difference between a 

940
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,240
loan and isolating. 
Like he says. 

941
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:27,720
That isn't true for every person
that's alone. 

942
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:30,080
I didn't say alone. 
I said people who isolate 

943
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,920
themselves from everybody. 
That's a huge difference. 

944
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,000
People who avoid being around 
people at all costs, big 

945
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,400
difference there. 
So yeah, I don't, I don't agree 

946
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,720
that that every person that's 
alone does that. 

947
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:42,760
That's we're talking about 
isolation a little bit 

948
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,280
different. 
So just want to make sure we we 

949
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,960
confirm that. 
I don't want there to be any 

950
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,080
confusion on that one. 
What? 

951
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,120
About the library card, do you 
have one? 

952
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,280
No. 
Oh, not yet. 

953
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,720
You mean. 
You mean not yet? 

954
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:54,280
You don't have a library card? 
Sure. 

955
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,760
He's like, no, I meant no. 
You know, you get to like the 

956
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,240
audio books for free. 
There's a Hoopla app for my 

957
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:03,840
Public Library and I love that. 
Yeah, my wife, my wife and my 

958
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,800
kids all have library cards and 
they use them. 

959
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,800
I I don't have one. 
I've got so many books right now

960
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,920
that I have not gotten through 
that. 

961
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,320
Having a library card would just
be something that sits on a 

962
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,880
shelf and never gets used 
because I don't have time to 

963
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,440
read all those books and the 
ones I already have. 

964
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,160
So. 
Yeah, and honestly, every time I

965
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,760
go to my Public Library, they 
never asked me for the car. 

966
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,600
They always want my name. 
They you they give you 2 cards, 

967
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,200
they give you a little key chain
1. 

968
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,680
You know that you put on the 
circle thing on your keys and 

969
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,800
then they give you like an 
actual physical one which 

970
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,200
doesn't fit my wallet because I 
have one of those slim ones. 

971
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,360
So I guess it's more of a 
memento did. 

972
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,120
You see what old trails just 
posted? 

973
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,560
Now what do you say I? 
Don't know what this means, he 

974
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,360
says. 
If you have kids, Louisa, that's

975
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,160
not that's not it. 
That skipped on me. 

976
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,560
That's this one. 
I haven't had a library card 

977
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,360
since I had a Bicycle card. 
Is that the? 

978
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,280
Card that you put in the spoke 
of your box, so it sounds. 

979
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,720
Like a motor talk nobody's 
talking about. 

980
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,440
Did he? 
Did he use his library card as 

981
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,240
that card? 
Probably. 

982
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:02,840
That's probably the last. 
I'm trying to, that's what I'm 

983
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,800
saying. 
I'm trying to figure out what 

984
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,280
he's talking about. 
So and what off trails buddy? 

985
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,400
Tell us. 
Come on, Jonathan, tell tell us 

986
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,160
what you did with that car. 
Just are you saying you used 

987
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,720
your library card to make noise 
on your bike? 

988
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,640
Those were the good old days 
man. 

989
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,640
You clothes pinning or tie it to
your bike. 

990
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,680
Oh yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

991
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,480
What about outdoor walks that's 
cheap and easy and adds value to

992
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,760
your life? 
Yes. 

993
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,480
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
How about I? 

994
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,920
Agree with that. 
How about a new shower head or 

995
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,120
bidet? 
He's not. 

996
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,240
A shower head for me man. 
Like does the water get on and 

997
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:39,800
clean me off? 
I'm not in the shower long 

998
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,440
enough to care about the shower 
head that much. 

999
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Fair, fair. 
OK. 

1000
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,280
What about now? 
My wife may be different. 

1001
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,000
You think that she wants to 
install the bidet? 

1002
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,080
I mean, I think everybody wants 
to install a bidet. 

1003
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,000
I totally agree. 
Oh, sad, sad news, John. 

1004
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,640
Breaking news. 
I don't think I've told you the 

1005
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,600
bidet at the Stringer household 
has finally given it up. 

1006
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:04,800
I am the day list my wife 
actually, it was broken, but it 

1007
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,680
wasn't broken as in like it's 
broken apart. 

1008
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,480
Some of the internal parts 
failed, but it didn't work for 

1009
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,600
like a month straight. 
And my wife was finally like, 

1010
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,000
are you going to take this thing
off the toilet or are we going 

1011
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,720
to keep having to deal with this
broken bidet? 

1012
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:23,040
So over the weekend, 
unfortunately had to take it out

1013
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,080
in the yard buried under the old
oak tree. 

1014
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,600
RIP the bidet. 
You have a nice memorial service

1015
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,960
for. 
Yes, yes. 

1016
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,280
Now here's the question that you
get on Amazon. 

1017
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,000
It's. 
Poop time. 

1018
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,280
That's right. 
Did you get on Amazon and order 

1019
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,760
a new one? 
Oh, I just been I've been using 

1020
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,240
the kids baby wipes. 
What? 

1021
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,600
No. 
Hey, hey, Woodall got back to us

1022
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,680
here. 
Wait, so I can find him on here?

1023
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,520
He said. 
Oh gosh, everybody keeps. 

1024
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,600
It's kind of funny, he says 
Nope. 

1025
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,200
Well there it goes again. 
It's on the wrong 1. 

1026
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,640
Hold up, this is hard sometimes 
to get these all figured out. 

1027
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,560
He says Nope, they had a bicycle
card you could get from the 

1028
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,200
license office way back when. 
I never heard of that before. 

1029
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,000
Me either. 
Yeah, the. 

1030
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,840
Same town he grew up in. 
Well, I think he's more of the. 

1031
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,720
City. 
Of Alaska County. 

1032
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:16,960
I was in the Wayne County. 
Yeah, ordering counties. 

1033
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,360
What about journaling? 
Do you do a little journaling? 

1034
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,560
That's almost. 
Free. 

1035
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,720
Yeah, not AI. 
Tried once. 

1036
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:28,600
I mean, I tried 2 and I epically
failed John. 

1037
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,120
I literally like I've tried 
doing just a regular journal. 

1038
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,480
I've tried doing a journal like 
directed at certain things like 

1039
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,920
a prayer journal or something 
like that that you can look back

1040
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,160
upon. 
It's just too much work for me, 

1041
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,400
dude. 
I cannot. 

1042
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,400
It's another thing I feel like 
it's an obligation and I don't 

1043
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,360
need more obligations for me. 
I need more woods time. 

1044
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,560
I just don't care. 
So like I'm not worried about 

1045
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,760
getting connected with my 
feelings. 

1046
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,280
Like, I don't care, so I'm not 
going to do it. 

1047
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,320
Before we go to the next one, 
let me tell you real quick, John

1048
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,640
of how I've had. 
I've modified it and it works 

1049
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,400
for me really well now. 
And I would suggest you trying 

1050
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,000
it as well, even though you 
probably won't because you've 

1051
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,080
already signed off on it. 
But let me just hear me out, OK?

1052
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,280
What are we talking about right 
now? 

1053
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,720
We're talking about the journal 
here. 

1054
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,800
Just hear me out. 
Journal. 

1055
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,320
Now I don't know if I call it 
journaling, OK, It's adjacent to

1056
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,640
journaling, OK. 
So I pick 3 or 4 things that I 

1057
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,800
want to track through the month,
like for example, my weight or 

1058
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,160
how much I'm sleeping or just 
you get to pick right whatever 

1059
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,360
statistic that you want to 
analyze over a month. 

1060
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,600
You can record any data you 
want, OK? 

1061
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,760
I put that as a column. 
So I had to pick one page. 

1062
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,200
This same book that I sent you a
picture of with the show notes 

1063
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,280
for today, I pick a page in it 
and that's my page for the 

1064
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,640
month. 
So May 2026, wait, whatever. 

1065
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:58,400
And then I also do the date, so 
one through 30 this month and 

1066
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,840
right next to it I put the day 
of the week MTWT and so on. 

1067
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,680
OK, OK. 
You get one line like this much 

1068
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,880
space and you write whatever you
want for that day. 

1069
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,840
So it could be my kid said his 
first word, or it could be I 

1070
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,840
taught my kid to ride a bike, or
it could be I went on a date 

1071
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,480
with my wife to hear or 
whatever. 

1072
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,400
And so at the end of every 
month, sometimes we get a little

1073
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,680
behind, which makes it even 
better. 

1074
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,640
I'll go through and my wife and 
I sit down and have a cup of 

1075
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,360
coffee, or we sit at breakfast 
or maybe at dinner or something.

1076
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,480
And I put the notebook in front 
of us and we go through and read

1077
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,200
through that month's highlights 
together and we get a little 5 

1078
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,480
minute session of nostalgia. 
And then I've been doing this 

1079
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,880
now for like 2 1/2 years. 
So I have multiple books now 

1080
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:54,040
filled up with not just those 
papers of the, the recorded data

1081
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,960
and the daily highlight, but 
also the other things you're 

1082
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,320
working on, house projects, 
payments, whatever's on your 

1083
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,200
mind writing it down in there. 
So if anybody's wanting to try 

1084
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,320
journaling, I don't think John's
gonna do it. 

1085
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,480
No. 
But if you want to try it, but 

1086
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,720
you don't want to commit to the 
point where like I'm gonna write

1087
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:12,560
a page every day cuz I just 
couldn't do that. 

1088
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:16,480
One highlight every day worked 
really, really well. 

1089
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,600
And even if you forget to do it 
for a few days, I like, I'll 

1090
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,160
look back on the photos on my 
phone or my calendar and I'll be

1091
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,320
like, Oh yeah, that was a good 
day. 

1092
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,360
I've done this, this and this. 
And then I'll put that in my 

1093
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,200
journal. 
So don't worry if you fall 

1094
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,760
behind. 
You know what, I think that's I 

1095
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,400
think that's great for you. 
You're not going to do it, are 

1096
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,160
you? 
Bro, I'm not even thinking about

1097
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,160
that, just to be honest with 
you. 

1098
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:40,440
Hey somebody, what do you got? 
Gay Fuller just gave us a $20 

1099
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,040
super chat. 
Here's the start of the new 

1100
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:49,280
Stringer Bidet Fund. 
Let's hold up, hold up. 

1101
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,520
Since neither one of us have 
one, I think we should split 

1102
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,240
that so we can both get 10. 
I think it has my name on it. 

1103
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:55,840
Back me up here, Kurt. 
Now I'm just joking. 

1104
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,160
I think we both, I think I've 
never had a bidet in my home. 

1105
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,640
I think we need to get one from 
my house. 

1106
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,440
Think that's a great idea, John?
I think I think if if I could 

1107
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,240
maybe maybe getting a bidet 
would actually make me journal. 

1108
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,920
I'll tell you what, I'll do you 
one better if it next time I 

1109
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,960
come to your house. 
Yeah, if you will have a bidet, 

1110
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,280
I'll install it for you. 
Now you got to clean the toilet 

1111
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,440
before I touch the toilet. 
But I'm happy to install it for 

1112
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,040
you. 
And I'll do you another one 

1113
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,400
better. 
I will christen it for you. 

1114
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:30,600
You let me be the first person 
in the Kelly. 

1115
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,520
Household can't do that. 
You can't be the first person 

1116
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,280
that uses my bidet. 
I guess you're going to have to 

1117
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,240
install it, John. 
What? 

1118
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:37,920
What can I say? 
You know, probably I'll just 

1119
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,840
install it the day I get it. 
But you know what? 

1120
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,480
I'll still have you over and 
I'll let you use it well. 

1121
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,040
Will you make it one of the 
heated ones? 

1122
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,920
Because mine wasn't heated in 
the water. 

1123
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,000
The water comes out at the same 
temperature. 

1124
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,040
It's coming out like your hot, 
your cold water line coming into

1125
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:56,920
the house. 
Yeah. 

1126
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,480
I'm so I'm up right now. 
Let's see what we're talking 

1127
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,240
about here. 
What is my financial commitment 

1128
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:01,920
to this? 
Well. 

1129
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,800
I would try to keep it under 
100. 

1130
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,720
I don't know what what you're 
looking at. 

1131
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,680
The cheapie from Walmart that 
Bridget had bought me like 2 

1132
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,720
Christmases ago was only like 10
bucks. 

1133
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,920
I looked on there they went up 
to $30 in the last couple years.

1134
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,520
If you want a really good one, 
you're looking at like 1200 

1135
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,720
bucks. 
Well, the Forbes voted best 

1136
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,320
bidet overall for 2026. 
It's called the Bio Bidet and 

1137
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,840
it's $460. 
Wow, that's pretty. 

1138
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,040
Cheap. 
That doesn't look cheap to me. 

1139
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,240
John. 
This is electric. 

1140
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,480
I see an electric bidet toilet 
seat with remote heated toilet 

1141
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,960
seat. 
The seat is heated. 

1142
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,280
Yeah. 
Instant warm heater, instant 

1143
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:45,280
warm air dryer rear and feminine
oscillating cleansing something.

1144
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,880
Your wife. 
It's a. 160, yeah. 

1145
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,960
But here's the problem that you 
run into, John. 

1146
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:55,440
I don't know about your bathroom
but mine has one outlet so not 

1147
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,360
the master bath. 
This was in this actually the 

1148
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,880
bathroom across. 
From the master bath. 

1149
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,080
I'm not letting my kids touch 
this. 

1150
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,520
Thing, but this was in the 
bathroom across from my son's 

1151
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,640
room. 
So it wasn't in the master bath.

1152
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,800
It was in his bathroom, 
technically, yeah. 

1153
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,320
And so the only plug in there is
like up by the sink. 

1154
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,680
You know, it's a it's a little 
bathroom, yeah, sink, toilet, 

1155
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,640
shower. 
So you can't like how you 

1156
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,080
supposed to plug it in. 
Well, I actually have an outlet 

1157
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,280
like right by my toilet. 
Somebody's thinking ahead in the

1158
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,120
Kelly household whenever they 
built that house. 

1159
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,320
I don't know who built this one,
but whoever built yours was 

1160
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,120
thinking ahead. 
They were have bidet on the 

1161
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,560
brain. 
OK, someone said I need to get 

1162
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,120
the Toto K300. 
No, I'll tell you. 

1163
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,000
Hold on, hold on. 
I want to look this up because I

1164
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,960
want to know what the Toto K300 
is. 

1165
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,760
Oh the Toto is one of the best 
brands you can get. 

1166
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Holy. 
Mother of Mercy $756. 

1167
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:51,080
I'm sorry, I can't get that one.
Let me see if I can be quick 

1168
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,440
here, I don't want to look on my
phone. 

1169
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:58,640
K300 the K307156 dollars. 
Mr. Backpack, him and Jason, 

1170
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,880
Sir, one of his buddies. 
He's now my buddy, too. 

1171
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,920
I've known him for, you know, 5 
or 6 years now. 

1172
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:10,600
But he sent me the Toto that he 
has, Toto Washlet, Toto Washlet 

1173
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,000
A-100. 
That's the one you want. 

1174
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,600
He has that installed in his 
house. 

1175
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,080
It's got the remote, it's got 
the heated seats and it's a name

1176
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:23,760
brand, but that was in 2024 that
he sent that to me. 

1177
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,760
So they're probably. 
Double now. 

1178
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,040
Well, I was gonna say all the 
Washlet S is $410. 

1179
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:34,960
The Washlet S7 a $11140. 
We don't want the s s is much 

1180
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,320
further down the alphabet. 
You want the A. 

1181
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:41,440
Old unions telling us it's a 
$756 of warm hygiene. 

1182
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,680
I love it. 
It is, yeah. 

1183
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,560
I'm serious though, if you have 
a place to plug them in or you 

1184
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,600
can run hot water to it then I 
don't even know if they make 

1185
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,400
them with hot water that you can
run hot water to it. 

1186
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,360
I assume it's got an internal 
heater that heats the water 

1187
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,280
before it sprays. 
It we also said there's probably

1188
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,880
a gun XK300. 
There you go. 

1189
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,520
That'll be $12.00 John and 90. 9
cents 99. $12.00 doesn't come 

1190
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,600
with all the screws that you'll 
need to install it, but it's 

1191
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,600
only $12.00. 
It's so funny. 

1192
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,040
Yeah, I'm going to bring this up
to my wife and just see what she

1193
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,120
says. 
She's only like, we're not 

1194
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,520
buying everything. 
Let's just stop. 

1195
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,520
It's not admin. 
All right, I'm going to do one 

1196
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,160
last one for you. 
OK, Good toilet paper. 

1197
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,640
Oh, now I. 
Have to agree with that one. 

1198
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,880
Yeah, that should be with that 
one. 

1199
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,120
There's absolutely no way you 
don't get good toilet paper. 

1200
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,920
You go to somebody's house and 
it's unfortunate enough that you

1201
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:35,160
have to do the do and they have 
crappy toilet paper. 

1202
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,000
They have that one ply. 
They have like the free toilet 

1203
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,760
paper that you steal when you're
through hiking. 

1204
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,280
Yeah. 
You know, you put like round 

1205
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,480
your hand and just wrap it a 
bunch because you know you need 

1206
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,280
4 times as much because it's one
ply. 

1207
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,440
You got to upgrade the toilet 
paper game. 

1208
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,000
You do. 
It shows how much you care about

1209
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,160
your guests, John. 
Well, and I'm gonna, I want to 

1210
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,720
add in one of the ones that's on
here you didn't mention it says 

1211
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,520
buy good sheets and pillows. 
What I'm going to say is instead

1212
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,640
of buying good sheets and 
pillows, just make sure you wash

1213
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,480
them more often. 
How often? 

1214
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,560
Is there is nothing better than 
getting in bed right after the 

1215
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,080
sheets have been washed and 
they're nice and fluffy and 

1216
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,320
comfortable? 
It's just awesome. 

1217
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,200
What do you do like every two 
weeks? 

1218
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,920
Every. 
Week, every week, every two 

1219
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,160
weeks, something like that. 
But I, we washed ours this past 

1220
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,640
week like we normally would. 
And, and I'm telling you man, 

1221
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,640
when I got in the sheets out 
last night, I, I was like, man, 

1222
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,280
this is heaven. 
Are you a daily pillow fluffer? 

1223
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,520
No. 
You just just like, oh, this is 

1224
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,200
how it was. 
I just put my pillow here and 

1225
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,200
I'm gonna sleep on it again. 
My Pillow is a is like one of 

1226
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,440
those ones that's got a specific
place the way it's for people 

1227
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,360
with bad necks because I mean, 
if there's an injury, I've had 

1228
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,880
it and so it's made so that my 
head always lays the exact same 

1229
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,920
way every night. 
Yeah, I didn't even know that. 

1230
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,360
I've seen the advertisements for
the ones that's got like an 

1231
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,440
armhole. 
So it's got two different holes,

1232
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,240
like you can either lay your arm
under or you can turn it the 

1233
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,720
other way. 
No, it's not like that, but let 

1234
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,200
me see if I find a picture of 
this thing. 

1235
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,400
He's highfalutin, John is. 
He's going to have a heated 

1236
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,800
bidet, a $1200 bidet at his 
house. 

1237
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,960
He's got one of those my pillows
that hold your neck the same way

1238
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,520
every night. 
Well, I'm going to tell you I 

1239
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,280
didn't ask. 
I didn't buy this pillow for 

1240
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,760
myself. 
My wife bought it for me because

1241
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,840
he knew I was having neck issues
and she actually likes me so. 

1242
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,960
So when you're backpacking, you 
don't have like neck problems. 

1243
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,600
I know you do the hammock. 
So not in the hammock because of

1244
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,280
the way I know how to lay the 
pillow. 

1245
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,080
So OK, so here we go. 
And I don't think mine was this 

1246
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,680
expensive, but this is the kind 
of pillow. 

1247
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,400
Let me see if I pull this up so 
that people can see it. 

1248
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,960
It was that expensive, John. 
Your wife bought it. 

1249
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,640
She just, she just didn't tell 
you probably right about that. 

1250
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,920
Here we go, check this out. 
It's no royalty. 

1251
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:49,360
Connected neck pillow so it 
looks like this so it's 5. 114 

1252
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,280
dollars. 
Yeah, minus about 350. 

1253
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,520
It's kind of like this. 
So like there's a spot where my 

1254
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,080
shoulder sits here and my neck I
can lay sideways really 

1255
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,840
comfortably. 
And yeah, man, it's, it's really

1256
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,680
helped me out with my neck 
issues so. 

1257
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,200
Cozy rest memory foam Nick 
pillow. 

1258
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:17,800
How would John spell awesome? 
75 bucks and it could be yours. 

1259
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,280
You know, that's honestly not 
bad if it lasts that long. 

1260
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,800
Yeah, it's I, I really like it. 
It's a, I've had it for, well, 

1261
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,400
since we moved, since before we 
moved into the new house. 

1262
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,360
So we've had at least three, 3 
1/2 years. 

1263
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,240
Yeah, cuz you buy the crappy 
pillows you're gonna have to get

1264
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,200
another one in like 6 months. 
Oh yeah, yeah, they just die on 

1265
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,160
you. 
I double. 

1266
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,600
Step. 
Somebody asked the question how 

1267
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,600
would I spell Awesome. 
It would be Stringer. 

1268
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,560
Aw, thank. 
You. 

1269
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,240
Yeah, that's how I would spell 
awesome. 

1270
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,360
Real quick before we hop off 
here, I thought it would be a 

1271
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,320
good saving tactic. 
We have a guest room for now. 

1272
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,640
Yeah, we'll see if we have 
another child. 

1273
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,600
Then I think that we're going to
lose the guest room and it's 

1274
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:06,200
going to become my office. 
But we have a guest room and 

1275
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,240
every guest that spends the 
night, I say, what can we 

1276
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,000
improve in this room? 
And one of them said we need, 

1277
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,760
you need more furniture. 
So we went to a yard sale and 

1278
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,120
bought like a used dresser set 
and in tables and all that kind 

1279
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,680
of stuff. 
You know, 50 bucks and you're 

1280
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,360
good to go. 
Well, the biggest complaint I 

1281
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,920
had was the pillows. 
And I said, what do you mean? 

1282
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,160
Because my cost saving tactic 
was once my pillows wear out, 

1283
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,040
I'm going to get new pillows and
I'll just put those in the guest

1284
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,240
room and they can sleep on them.
Turns out your guests do not 

1285
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,640
like that. 
Who would have ever thought that

1286
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,600
your guests wanted nice, fluffy,
clean, great smell and unused 

1287
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,280
pillows? 
And so, you know, I went to 

1288
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,920
Walmart and I got us all new 
pillows, a whole household of 

1289
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,520
new pillows. 
I should have got the $75 ones 

1290
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,680
because they're starting to all 
wear out at the same time. 

1291
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:01,080
Now I'm needing a Round 2 but 
I'm learning. 

1292
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,120
You know, we, you know, to take 
it back to backpacking as we get

1293
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,560
ready to close this thing out. 
I did a pillow video years ago 

1294
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:13,320
and I got crucified because my 
favorite pillow was the Climate 

1295
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,080
Pillow X. 
Is that a air up? 

1296
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,760
Yeah, it's, it's a blow up 
pillow. 

1297
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,160
Let me see here. 
I'm gonna pull this up so you 

1298
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,040
can see it. 
And I'm not gonna lie, I love 

1299
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,960
the pillow. 
And the reason I love it is 

1300
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,600
because I'm a side sleeper and 
it allows my neck to be up just 

1301
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,360
a little higher than my head. 
And this pillow is weird looking

1302
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,400
as it is. 
I love the thing and I'm sure 

1303
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,000
there are people that hate it, 
but I love these things. 

1304
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,480
Right now. 
There's one here at this place 

1305
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:45,240
Gear Trade for like 12 bucks. 
I never heard of that website by

1306
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:46,120
the way. 
Yeah, neither have I. 

1307
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,840
So one in stock almost gone. 
Yeah. 

1308
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,800
I don't know if I'd use that. 
Maybe try Amazon? 

1309
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,920
Well, and if you get, let's see 
here, let let me see if I can 

1310
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,920
pull up one. 
Here's one from backcountry.com.

1311
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,640
We'll switch, we'll switch 
screens to this. 

1312
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,480
So you can see here we go. 
OK. 

1313
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,800
And they've got it in here for 
3299 at Backcountry. 

1314
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:10,320
So yeah, this pillow right here.
I love that pillow and and I 

1315
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,200
think the reason I like it is 
because it's like my pillow at 

1316
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,760
home where my head sits down 
further and my neck sits up 

1317
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,120
higher. 
Yeah, once you get used to it, 

1318
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,200
your body's craving it. 
Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I've had

1319
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,320
people that told me I was 
absolutely out of my mind and 

1320
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,720
crazy for liking that pillow. 
But hey man, to each their own. 

1321
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,480
I. 
Agree, I've been wadding up my 

1322
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,720
puffy jacket and laying on top 
of it so to each their own. 

1323
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,600
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't use 
that in the hammock. 

1324
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,160
That was my tent one. 
It's somebody I want to make 

1325
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,680
comments because wow, Pillow X 
is. 

1326
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,920
Awful. 
I love it. 

1327
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,480
So. 
That's true feedback there. 

1328
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,280
Yeah, but that just goes to show
you, man, like especially with 

1329
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,680
backpacking, just because you 
like it doesn't mean somebody 

1330
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,200
else is going to. 
And just because somebody else 

1331
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,400
likes it doesn't mean you're 
going to. 

1332
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,280
Everything is very personal, so.
Like your own hack. 

1333
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,640
Jeremiah, this has been fun. 
Agree, man, Pleasure and fun it 

1334
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,800
has been. 
It's been a lot of fun and I 

1335
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,120
hope you all have enjoyed 
yourselves. 

1336
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,720
We're going to be back next week
with another episode and like I 

1337
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,600
said, check out that article. 
It's time to face it. 

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01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,680
There's privilege and through 
hiking, Look that up on 

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01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,640
Backpacker magazine and let's 
talk about it next week. 

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01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,240
Let's get uncomfortable, let's 
get controversial and let's talk

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01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:30,120
about it. 
So for myself and Jeremiah 

1342
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,440
almost pointed the wrong way and
had not to point. 

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,240
Weird. 
We'll catch you guys on the next

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01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,440
one. 
You know what's funny, Jeremiah?

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What? 
My buttons switched.

