1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,120 Welcome to the backpacking podcast brought to you by 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,480 Outdoor Vitals. For myself, John Kelly and 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Jeremiah Stringer, we're going to welcome you to another 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,320 episode of the podcast. Big thank you goes out to 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,400 Outdoor Vitals, makers of Performance First Ultra Light 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Gear. Jeremiah, once you tell us a 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,320 little bit about this brand new line of clothing they're about 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,920 to come out with. Yeah, they're dropping three 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,120 different pieces of clothing during this line. 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,800 I was going to tell you real quick about the Pursuit hybrid 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,200 fleece. Now, this whole line is designed 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,200 for if you're out and it's cold but you want to move, that's 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,800 what that's what it is. So this hybrid fleece, it's got 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,920 fleece lines strategically inside of it, the grid fleece. 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,080 But I'll tell you honestly, my favorite feature, this is as 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,040 simple as it gets. I don't know why everybody 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,960 doesn't do this, but I always get my head stuck or like my 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,320 hair or messing up my beard. You don't want to mess up your 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,360 beard. Can't do. 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,400 That with those quarters, the quarter zips, why don't they 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,520 just make them zip more? So that's what Outdoor Vitals 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,680 did with this hybrid fleece. It I wouldn't call it a quarter 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,200 zip, I call it a three quarter zip. 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,720 It zips all the way down at. Least 2/3 right? 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,880 Yeah, so that's my favorite feature on it. 26 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:16,000 Go on over to outdoorvitals.com if you want to check it out. 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,360 They are selling quick. So pick out your favorite size, 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,080 your favorite color. Yes, they are. 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,480 And also they've got the Altura dynamic pants and they are 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,600 basically made to move how you move with a stretch fabric that 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,400 is very comfortable, breathable and easy to maneuver with. 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,480 All of this gear is part of the Mountain Pursuit Line, which is 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,080 geared towards people who are going to be doing a little bit 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,520 more rugged work out the outdoors. 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,520 If that's you. Estimated shipping on this is 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,320 September 29th. So get your orders in and get 37 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:49,720 your hands on some of this Mountain Pursuit Line gear from 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:55,120 Outdoor Vitals. Jeremiah, we have a poll that we 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,280 need to hear the results of, and I think it's important for you 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,720 to share with us the results of this poll. 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,120 Yeah, dude, we're leading off the show today talking about 42 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,440 poop, poop, poop. Right from the top, man. 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Right from the top. I I meant to bring this up with 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,680 a guest that we had on recently but I forgot so we skipped it 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,120 till now. So poop. 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,480 I put out a poll and y'all can answer in the comments. 47 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,760 The people that are on here live. 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Welcome to the show. By the way the poll says which 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,520 do you prefer to poop on trail or which do you prefer to poop 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,760 in on trail And you're like what do you mean to poop in? 51 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Your choices are Privy a cat hole or you just don't poop on 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,520 trails. Some people try to win the game 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,000 of not pooping on trail. These results I think may 54 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,480 surprise you, John. We have in last place 10% of 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:03:05,960 people say we do not poop on trail 10% and then we have 38% 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,720 use a cat hole. I know I'm surprised too. 57 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,560 Well, and 52% more than. Half. 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,080 More than half prefer to go to the Privy. 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,400 Do you think these people are lying? 60 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,880 You think this is real stuff? That they, I mean, they're 61 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,760 voting. I mean, out of millions of 62 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,080 votes, that's what we got. It's anonymous. 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,560 I'll tell you, man. Oh, wait, wait, wait. 64 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,240 We're getting, we're getting ridden by Backcountry exposure. 65 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,720 Mr. Devin is on here saying you can't omit the wag. 66 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Bro I'm going to be honest, I didn't even think of putting a 67 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,280 wag bag on there. Wasn't even in my brain at the 68 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,880 time. Wasn't in my brain. 69 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,480 I got to say that. Probably would have. 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,880 I'm going to say safely it would have scored last. 71 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,920 But I could be wrong. It's true. 72 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 But here's the thing, E coasters is just not a thing in the East 73 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,600 Coast. Yeah, we don't even think about 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,040 it. Yeah. 75 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,280 We have no, we don't use them out here. 76 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,560 I think if we were using them out here it probably would be, 77 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,440 hey, we got a real quick Derwin off the rails, the alter ego of 78 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,440 Darwin on the trail. Left us a super chat for $4.99 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,200 and said what kind of hot Combs JJ use on that luscious beard. 80 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,640 That's funny, man. I, I got to be honest. 81 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,480 I, I talked about this the other week. 82 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,480 You got to get one of those spinning hair brushes, the 83 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,360 circle ones, and then brush your beard outward. 84 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,880 And John, I don't know if you trim your own or if you have a 85 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Barber professionally do it, but mine will get real bushy and I 86 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,200 brush it all the way out like I'm super Amish. 87 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,200 I mean as Amish as Amish gets. And then I just chop the sides 88 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,800 off. Straight down and then I I trim 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,000 mine, but I don't quite go that way. 90 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,920 I'm I'm a little bit more with the trimmers and kind of try 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,040 and, you know, shape. A little bit more. 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,080 I'm looking for the Abe Lincoln man. 93 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,360 I'm the redheaded Abe Lincoln here. 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Look at that. You know, man, I want to grow my 95 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,240 beard back out, but there's this problem right here that doesn't 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,200 grow enough. And if I grow one out, man, I 97 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,680 look like the most ridiculous hillbilly like dude on the I 98 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,160 mean, it's terrible. It's like I just can't grow this 99 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,120 part. If this would grow, I'd grow my 100 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,400 beard out all the time, but it doesn't. 101 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,840 So this listening and wonder what I'm talking. 102 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,400 I'm talking below my mouth, above my chin. 103 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,440 I have a little line that grows and that's it. 104 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,000 There's no like it doesn't fill in. 105 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,640 And when it doesn't fill in, when I grow my beard out, I look 106 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,160 like, if you ever look at the founders of our country, 107 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,920 sometimes my beard, I remember I was on a trail. 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,080 I, I think I was doing, oh gosh, what were we doing? 109 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,520 Pictured Rocks. And it was with Miyagi and he 110 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,680 pointed this old dude on one of these pictures, like one of the 111 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,800 founding people pictured rocks or something. 112 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,480 It was look, it's John. And that dude had my beard. 113 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,480 And I'm like, Dang it. So I keep a little more trim 114 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,800 these days because it just it's I just, I'm not going to do that 115 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,920 to myself. My wife hates it when I do that. 116 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,800 So what about she I'm not allowed to shave the beard off? 117 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,000 Like she's different than your wife. 118 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,560 She won't let me shit. She loves the beard. 119 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:08,000 She just doesn't want me having some big old shaggy thing. 120 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,800 So. So yeah. 121 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,640 What about this? What about the hair straightener 122 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,160 on your beard? Have you seen this? 123 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,040 I actually have seen that before. 124 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,720 I tried a hot comb on my beard once and what once looked 125 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,760 straggly looked more straggly. So I just avoid any kind of 126 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,520 thing like I do use, I still use outdoor beards, all their 127 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,000 products on my beard. I think it's it's the best of it 128 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,720 smells the best, it feels the best and it's all natural so you 129 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,480 don't have to worry about putting weird chemicals on you. 130 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,560 So I I still use their stuff, which does help make it fuller, 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,000 make it shiny, nice and pretty, you know. 132 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,880 But no, I don't do straighteners and stuff well. 133 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,200 For me, my wife Bridget, she straightens her hair pretty much 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,440 every day. And she, she asked me like a 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,160 couple days ago, are you going to let me straighten your hair? 136 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,440 See, Derwin says the hot comb straightens his beard out for 137 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,520 him. I've never tried it. 138 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,320 I've never bought one. But when she asked me if she if 139 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,000 I was gonna let her straighten my hair on top of my head. 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,640 For those that just listen to the show all the time and they 141 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,760 never watch it on YouTube or Spotify, that's fine. 142 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,360 We love you listening. I have long hair right now and 143 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,080 it's like getting down toward the middle of my back at this 144 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,040 point. It's been growing for over a 145 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,960 year, maybe a year and a half. I told her this heat on your 146 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,000 hair, I don't care if it's hair on your legs, on your on your 147 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,760 chin, on top of your head, on your arms, that heat is not good 148 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,400 for your hair. It's going to damage your hair. 149 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,400 She said, oh, I have some spray. We'll spray that heat tamer, you 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,040 know, protectant on your head before we before we straighten 151 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,440 it. I said, OK, great. 152 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,640 So to solve this problem of damaging my hair, you want to 153 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,640 spray chemicals on my hair? I don't think I'm going to. 154 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Allow it. They're just not listening right 155 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,880 now, yeah. Well, she can listen to it while 156 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,400 she straightens her hair tomorrow morning. 157 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,360 We got the 1st 10 minutes of the show. 158 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,520 That's hilarious. Hey, so we got the craziest 159 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,120 story we're going to talk about right now. 160 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,160 This is one that that you found that you posted and I'm I'm 161 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,280 going to let you tell the story. But basically Walmart recalls 162 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,480 exploding hiking bottles and that two people were blinded 163 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,920 from these exploding bottles. You want to kind of explain the 164 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,640 story a little bit. Yeah, I saw this online and I 165 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,799 looked at it more. I think it's probably about a 166 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:36,840 month ago that this came out and it it's on my radar now. 167 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,320 But I'm going to read to you just a quick excerpt from 168 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Google's AI here on this Walmart recalls almost 850,000 that's 169 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,960 nearly 1,000,000 Ozark Trail 64 oz still stainless steel 170 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,120 insulated water bottles. So here's what's happening. 171 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,840 It is permanently blinding people, dude, it's insane. 172 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,080 I know it's and it's I try not to laugh. 173 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,960 It's funny that these bottles are exploding. 174 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:06,720 It's not. Funny. 175 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:07,960 It's not funny. People are blinded. 176 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,480 It's just it's absurd is what it is. 177 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,520 It's funny because it's absurd. Like keep going, sorry. 178 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,360 No, you're good. You're good. 179 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,880 So apparently three people have been hit by the lid. 180 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,520 So the bottle, I don't know if the bottle's the problem or the 181 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,840 lid's the problem, or the way it fits together is the problem, 182 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,600 but the lid's doing the damage. I'm looking at it right now. 183 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,520 It's actually, I'm actually, this is crazy. 184 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,720 I'm on the United States Consumer Product Safety 185 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,760 Commission and I'm looking at what they have for this product. 186 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,960 It is a 64 oz stainless steel insulated water bottle. 187 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,680 It says the lid. The lid can forcefully eject, 188 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,000 posing serious impact and laceration hazards when a 189 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,680 consumer attempts to open the lid. 190 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:53,880 The capped bottles after food, carbonated beverages or 191 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,240 perishable beverages such as juice or milk are stored inside 192 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,080 over time. So what's happening is gases 193 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,560 and, and air are building up inside of these bottles. 194 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,480 And when they're opening it, they're kind of probably not 195 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,400 holding the bottle lid very tightly. 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,360 And when they're opening it, that gas that's built up is just 197 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,400 pushing the lid right out once you get it far enough. 198 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,320 Hit you right in the eye man. Take your vision. 199 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,240 Man, that's insane. Well, I mean, I, I mean, I guess 200 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,320 you can trust that you're not going to get any air inside the 201 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,520 bottle, right? Well, let me ask you this. 202 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,880 How much do you think that? Like let's say you had a work 203 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,560 injury, right? And insurance pays out, you 204 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:36,360 know, if you like lose a finger at work, insurance will pay X 205 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,400 amount if you lose an ear, if you lose a leg, if you lose an 206 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,160 eye. How much do you think an eye is 207 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,360 worse according to the insurance companies? 208 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Oh, probably like $14.00. 14. Dollars. 209 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,560 I mean, the insurance companies don't care. 210 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,040 They don't care. But you know, what they're doing 211 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,920 is they're saying, you know, a lot of times if you work there, 212 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,320 basically it's my understanding you're signing a contract 213 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,360 saying, hey, I'll abide by these guidelines. 214 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,360 And one of the guidelines is insurance is already established 215 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,360 how much each part of your body is worth. 216 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,120 So if you lose something, you already agreed, this is how much 217 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,800 you're going to pay out. So you can't sue us saying, Hey, 218 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,480 I lost a finger, give me $20 million because I see people 219 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,440 comment like Jeff Jeff Peters in the comments, his comment about 220 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,920 sue and Walmart, because you would think, OK, Ozark Trails, 221 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,320 that's that's a Walmart brand, right? 222 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,160 That's like their outdoor brand. So that being the parent 223 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,800 company, you would think, oh, I'm going to sue Walmart and 224 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,440 Walmart, I don't know how much they're worth billions, 225 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,040 trillions, but you think you could get a lot according to 226 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,280 according to this potential payout. 227 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,320 And this is due to negligence, so I don't know if you consider 228 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,840 this negligence or what. They've been selling these since 229 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,440 2017. About 1/2 meal can range from 230 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,000 25,000 to over a million depending on lost wages 231 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 etcetera. But if it's total blindness, 232 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,200 about 1/2 meal is all you can. Bro. 233 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,320 How much should it be said at? I mean, like ethically, morally 234 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,560 speaking, you're taking somebody's one of their senses 235 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:11,040 away, just gone forever. Is it sad that I'm sitting here 236 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,560 thinking to myself, could I go without an eye for 500,000? 237 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Oh my goodness, John's going to go on eBay. 238 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,040 He's like, where can I find Model 6? 239 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,480 I'm just thinking. To myself, I'm sitting here 240 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,080 thinking to myself, I'm going, you know, glass eyes. 241 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,760 They're they look pretty decent. You know, it's more than you 242 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,440 know. Yeah. 243 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,640 I mean, shoot, who's the guy in Marvel? 244 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Like the Samuel L Jackson plays? I can be that guy. 245 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,480 I just have an eye patch. You could be daredevil. 246 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,160 I could be daredevil, just no, I don't want to be. 247 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,480 I don't want to be blind blind. I'm just I'm just willing to 248 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,640 give like maybe one eye half a mill, man, I could pay off my 249 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,080 house and my car. It's not worth your and more 250 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,800 like and then I'd have money leftover. 251 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,360 I could pay my kids college. My my kids college is probably 252 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,800 paid for at that point. Let me, let me spray paint. 253 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,200 I'm. Just I'm just throwing it out 254 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,400 there, man. I mean, like, I don't know. 255 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,360 I'm just yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying it's, I'm not 256 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,320 saying it's not bad. What? 257 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,320 I'm just in my head. That's the first thought that 258 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,960 went through my head was I wonder if I could get away with 259 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,360 what one eye? Well, they're look just sell 260 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,160 kidney next. Well, I mean, Jeff, it really 261 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,840 depends on how much they want for that kidney. 262 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,000 I'm just saying. I this got me thinking dude. 263 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,280 OK Nick. Nick Ramble said he needs about 264 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,680 5 mil for his eye. 5 mil is all it takes for one eye. 265 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:32,240 Nick, how much would you want for a kidney? 266 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,560 He's like, I'm like half that kid you. 267 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:40,400 Just throw it out there. And it got me thinking, dude, in 268 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,040 with these water bottles. A lot of people use this kind of 269 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,440 bottle on like a day hike, you know, very usually not 270 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,560 backpacking because they're kind of heavy, but day hiking, an 271 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:55,040 insulated bottle, it's hot out there, it keeps your water cold 272 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,840 or whatever you're taking. I could definitely see you 273 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,760 taking that on a day hike but I'm wondering for backpacking 274 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,800 what would be the best choice of water bottle? 275 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,640 And I typically will stop at the gas station. 276 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Get a smart water or life water bottle. 277 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:12,400 And I know people love them because the Sawyer Squeeze, it 278 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,840 fits on top. But there's a lot go, there's a 279 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,920 lot coming out now where people don't want those because now 280 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,680 you've got Kanak is doing a collapsible bottle, you've got 281 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,280 Migo who's doing the bottle from what's her face. 282 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,360 She, she was with REI, now she's not with REI. 283 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Miranda, she helped Durant do one. 284 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,040 Who else has done? I mean, several companies now 285 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,080 are coming out of these bottles because apparently the stuff 286 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,200 that's coming out of these other water bottles when you don't, 287 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,960 when you use them too much, isn't very healthy. 288 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,720 So yeah, somebody just staying here. 289 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,040 I like the new Miranda outdoor bottles. 290 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,400 Haven't gotten 1 though. Let me Google that and see what 291 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,440 that looks like. I'm not even. 292 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,200 Sure. Hey, I'll pull it up on the 293 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,920 screen. I got it right now you can see 294 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,480 it. The organ selling podcast. 295 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,440 We are the organ selling podcast, folks. 296 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,640 It's true, it's true. But yeah, so these are the 297 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,760 bottles that they've come out with. 298 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,920 OK, Why don't you describe? Them for the listeners. 299 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Yeah, I mean really it just, it looks like a typical water 300 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,360 bottle. It's got kind of a rounded top 301 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:22,000 on it with a screw off lid. Looks like it'll fit on a, on 302 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 your typical filter, like you should be able to use a filter 303 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,120 with it. It's the same size. 304 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,600 There's a picture in here where it's the same size as a smart 305 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,800 water bottle. It looks like. 306 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,720 I'm curious what the weight is on these. 307 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,280 It's garage grown gear, so it'll tell you 4.7 oz. 308 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:41,240 So they're not super heavy, but and, and we got more people. 309 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,440 Oh yeah, squawk. That's right. 310 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,240 Devin was on here talking about the squawk bottle the company 311 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,680 makes. They make really good fleeces. 312 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,520 I've got a squawk fleece that I really like, but they're making 313 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,520 water bottles now too. But this is a thing. 314 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,560 It's starting to happen more. And I think it's because the the 315 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,640 whole idea of the the stuff that's in the plastic that 316 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,760 breaks down is really not good for you. 317 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,200 Not good. Hey, Josh cop Josh Coop says 318 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,800 he's got two of the Gray bottles and says they're better than 319 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,440 smart water bottles. Alex and Jay says the Migo is 320 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,760 awesome. So I mean, these must be pretty 321 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,600 popular, these Migo bottles. Dude, let me tell you what 322 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,920 happened with me and my Smartwater bottle. 323 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,960 Tell me what happened with you in the in the Smartwater bottle. 324 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:31,400 This this was during my extremely frugal days, all 325 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:37,200 right, I had very minimal backpacking gear, just starting 326 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,920 YouTube, just starting to collect gear, but it like 327 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,600 everything that I was getting, it's just a normal consumer. 328 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,840 You're buying it one piece at a time. 329 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,760 You're putting gear together. There's no special treatment. 330 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,600 There's no send me this, send me that, let me try this, blah, 331 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,800 blah, blah. Just an average guy. 332 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Well, that kind of transcends all aspects of life. 333 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,120 I wasn't making a whole lot of money either. 334 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,400 So I was taking the same smart water bottle. 335 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,839 You know, I'd taken it backpacking. 336 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,440 I used it at the house and instead of just keep buying 337 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,400 cheap plastic bottles, I just kept refilling it because my 338 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,040 refrigerator has a filter on it, right? 339 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Change that for six months. So I said, well, I'm not going 340 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,960 to go get an insulated bottle. Cost me $15. 341 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,920 I'm going to keep using this. I already paid $3 for this smart 342 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,680 water bottle. I'm going to use it till it's 343 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,840 used up. So I took it with me every day 344 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,680 to work, bro, every day I'd refill it at the water fountain 345 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,760 at work. This is, I mean frugal and bro, 346 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,520 I used it. I don't most of that school year 347 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:47,240 I work at a public school and one day I was drinking from it 348 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:52,200 and I said, oh, that's weird taking a drink, What is that? 349 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,640 And I looked at it and there's like a little something floating 350 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,600 in there. I was like, ah, gross, 351 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,160 something's got my water bottle and then I look more and bro, I 352 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,840 don't know how long it took, but I had been drinking for a while. 353 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,880 There was like a coating of something inside there, a gooey 354 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,720 gross. I just kept. 355 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,200 I don't know if it was plastic, if it was some kind of 356 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:19,120 microorganism that was growing in there and spreading, who 357 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:22,600 knows. But bro, I felt nauseous 358 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,120 drinking that and I'd already drank a bunch of the bottle you. 359 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,440 I've literally had it turned up when I spotted something 360 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,600 floating in there. And from then on. 361 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,640 Well, I'll only refill them about 20 or 30 times, but then 362 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,360 I'll throw them in the trash. Man, I can't use it for a whole 363 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:40,760 year. I'm frugal, but not to the point 364 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,080 where it's going to make me sick. 365 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:44,360 Yeah, it's it the bottles breakdown. 366 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:47,160 I mean, it's it's a thing that actually happens and you got to 367 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,960 experience it first hand. So that's kind of fun. 368 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,240 We got some comments on here. Suga Canadensis says there's no 369 00:18:55,240 --> 00:19:00,040 such thing as good plastic. Nick Ramble says, yeah, plastic 370 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:00,840 sucks. It's a bummer. 371 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,080 Most of our gear is made from it as as you're drinking out of it. 372 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:07,000 I'm going straight up good old healthy aluminum. 373 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:11,920 So now and then a Backcountry exposure says John goes to 374 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,560 Mexico and we'll come home with a backpacking podcast, Tequila. 375 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,680 Listen, man, how much money is it going to make me? 376 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,880 That's all I'm asking. I mean, is, am I going to get as 377 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,440 much as I would for an eye or a kidney? 378 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,280 That's that's really the question we need to ask. 379 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,000 And Jeremiah didn't use the Gonx bottle wash. 380 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Oh. I should have. 381 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:34,760 Man you, you messed that one up. It never crossed my mind to wash 382 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,440 the bottle. I was just like, it's clean 383 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,680 water going in there. There's How could it be getting 384 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,520 dirty and it wasn't. It might not have been getting 385 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,400 dirty, I might have just been the plastic falling apart on 386 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,840 you. That's true. 387 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,520 You think in in 100 years, they're going to be like kind of 388 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,520 like we are with lead now, Like we took it out of gasoline, took 389 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,960 it out of paint, you know, stop using it and all the materials. 390 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,240 You think they're going to be the same way with the plastic 391 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,600 water bottles. They're going to be like, you 392 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,040 know how many trillions of plastic water bottles we have in 393 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,120 the ocean now because you and your parents and your kids have 394 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:07,760 been drinking out of these. But The thing is. 395 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,640 Most of those bottles will come from America. 396 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,200 You know where those come from? Where like China and Japan most 397 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,520 Like if you if you ever checked the studies on it, it's insane 398 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,760 how many come from out that way. This sounds like propaganda, 399 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,160 John. It's not propaganda. 400 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,720 Look it up. I'll let you look it up so you 401 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,080 can find it because it's, it's, it's crazy like it. 402 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,560 Look at the percentage of who has the most plastic waste in 403 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,680 the ocean. It's it's an unreasonable 404 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,360 difference between the our country and out there so. 405 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:41,000 China and India very densely populated. 406 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,720 Yep. Oh and we got this right here 407 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,760 guys are like the aluminum has a plastic lining bag liner. 408 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,920 Just FYI. And the next comment was there's 409 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,720 a plastic liner and aluminum cans. 410 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,760 Yeah, you'd think they have to put some kind of liner in all 411 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,560 these bottles and cans and stuff, otherwise whatever's in 412 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,960 there is contaminating the the building material. 413 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Well, we've got a battle going on, though, Chicken Little Trek, 414 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,400 says Suga. Not in Bush's baked beans, 415 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,520 though. There's no plastic liner in 416 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,960 Bush's baked beans. Don't you be messing with Bush's 417 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,000 baked beans, buddy. Isn't that the one with the dog 418 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,600 in the commercial? Yeah, that's the one with the 419 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,920 dog. Like talks with Peyton Manning. 420 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,440 That's. What I thought. 421 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,240 Man, Peyton Manning, you talk about a guy who must be getting 422 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,960 hard up for money. He's starting to do baked bean 423 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,480 commercials. If I was him, I would stick with 424 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,640 doing the NFL broadcast with Eli. 425 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,840 I would try to get a contract one weekend. 426 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,280 Every single, like every single game I've tried to do dude, like 427 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,640 every, I mean every week I would try to do a game. 428 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,360 They're they're great on that together. 429 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,600 They're just funny when they get together, period. 430 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,600 So OK, let's let's do this because I think this is where 431 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,320 you were trying to go and I completely like sidelined 432 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,320 everything, which is shocker with that never happens on this 433 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,880 show. Let's let's talk about each of 434 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,080 us. You've got a list of water 435 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,440 bottles on here. I'm going to read them off real 436 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,680 quick. Roll that beautiful bean 437 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:09,280 footage. So I'm going to name off these 438 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,160 bottles. And if you're commenting too, go 439 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,280 ahead and leave comments for this too. 440 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,840 But we're going to list off these these water bottles and 441 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,280 let's decide which ones we would rate as our highest and our 442 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,240 lowest use usable ones that sound good. 443 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,600 Yeah, do it. So we've got now Gene bottles, 444 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,880 we've got smart water bottles, we've got Life water bottles, 445 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:38,560 now Gene, the new thread size collapsible water bottles or 446 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,920 people just drinking from water bladders with the the tubes on 447 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,960 them. Yeah, and apparently some 448 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,240 bottles that I've never heard of. 449 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,600 So they don't, they don't qualify on this list that I've 450 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,480 made. And by the way, the thread size 451 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,960 on that new nail gene, this is probably not new. 452 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,240 They've probably been around for like 40 years and I've never 453 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,520 heard of it. But Jason had one on this last 454 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:04,280 trip, the Big South Fork trip. And I was like, what, you're 455 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,400 bringing a now Gene with you. You only he typically only does 456 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,880 that in the winter time and he'll fill it up with warm water 457 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,320 before he goes to bed. And then he'll take that to bed 458 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,440 with him as like one of those hot water bottles, you know, a 459 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,560 little extra warmth. But he broke this thing out and 460 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,840 it was just like a normal old regular bottle suss thread, like 461 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,680 a Coca-Cola bottle or pot bottle that you would get. 462 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,320 But it was now Gene. The rest of it. 463 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,080 I said I'd never seen these. He said, Yep, I started carrying 464 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,840 this. I think I like it better so I 465 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,200 haven't tried it yet, but I figured I'd throw it on my list 466 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,200 because it's new to me. Maybe not new, but new to me. 467 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,080 Well, let's do this. Let's go with last to 1st. 468 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,640 That sounds good. So which one are you least like? 469 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,240 Which one are you least interested in using? 470 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,080 How does that sound? I. 471 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,800 Can't use the bladder. I don't know how much is still 472 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,720 in there. I'm. 473 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,400 With you on that monitor? I'm with you on that. 474 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,240 Now you've got this paper on your desk, right? 475 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,120 I'm looking at it as well so. There's what, six of these? 476 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,640 Yeah. So in last place we got bladder. 477 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,520 I'm going to go next. Probably the collapsible 478 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,360 bottles. I don't like them. 479 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:16,400 Most of them to me taste kind of rubbery. 480 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,640 I don't know why. I think for me, I'm going to go 481 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,040 the original Nalgene is going to be next for me. 482 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,600 I don't like that big opening. And yeah, if you knock over one 483 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,320 with a smaller opening, it's going to take a lot more for all 484 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,120 the water to get out. But if you knock over analogy, 485 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:33,960 the water's out, it's gone, forget about it. 486 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,520 The whole thing's helping out. You ever accidentally kicked 487 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,160 over your cook pot and you're like at a dry camp and you're 488 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,600 like, Oh my gosh. Yeah, what I'm. 489 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,000 Going to do. I'm going to go with next least 490 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:52,640 favorite. I'll say probably the now Gene. 491 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,840 I'll take it in the winter time every once in a while. 492 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,840 I have a couple of them just full of stickers on the outside. 493 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,560 Yeah, I'm going to do the now gene new thread size because I 494 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,160 don't even know what that looks like or sounds like. 495 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,360 So I'm just going to go and put that as next on my list. 496 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,600 All right, I'll put it on next on my list as well. 497 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,200 I don't have one yet but I think I will be buying one. 498 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,600 Yeah, I think. I think after that for me it's 499 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,680 the collapsible bottle. Really you like the collapsible? 500 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,960 Bottle yeah, I've got I've got a couple that I've liked. 501 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,800 One of them I've I've actually got a a drink straw kind of 502 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,440 attachment thing to it. And because it's collapsible, 503 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,560 you don't have to have a tube that goes down into the bottle 504 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,880 because the bottle kind of shrinks with the drink. 505 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,280 So you like that kind of rhymes, but you I like that because I 506 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,680 could I've got it right here I can see how much water is left, 507 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,080 but the same time I don't have to worry about having to have an 508 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,000 extra tube down inside and all that kind of stuff. 509 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,960 It just kind of shrivels up as you're drinking it and so I'm 510 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,360 I'm kind of cool with it. You know, Jonathan with Woodall 511 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:03,800 trails, his water filter system, he does a a collapsible bottle 512 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,960 as like his bladder, I guess you would call it that you fill up 513 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,840 to push through your filter. And I thought that could be a 514 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,280 good fit if I was using a collapsible bottle. 515 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,560 I have that fastback from outdoor bottles and I've tried 516 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,240 the collapsible water bottles. They they work well. 517 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,640 If you're like a runner and you know, you want less space to be 518 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,120 taken up as you drink the bottle. 519 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,760 That's great and all. I just, I don't know, they're 520 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,960 not for me, but I'll say it's a tie. 521 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,040 Smart water and live water. I'll take either of those as my 522 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,560 #1 because they're basically the same. 523 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,080 And I'm going to throw in one in there that's not on there, but 524 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,960 we've got gas stations around here that do their own water 525 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,480 bottles that are that size and they're about $2.00 cheaper a 526 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,680 bottle. So I'll do those, you know, it's 527 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,040 just cheaper. You think they're filling those 528 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,480 up with a water hose around back? 529 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,160 I don't care, I'm just using the bottle. 530 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,400 Oh, you just pour the water out. I mean, I'll still drink the 531 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,320 water. I mean, it's The thing is, it's 532 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,520 probably the same water as smart water and live water. 533 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760 Honestly, it's probably just a gimmick anyway. 534 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,520 So I'm kind of cynical about those things. 535 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Let me ask you one more thing about water here. 536 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,360 There's only one right answer to this. 537 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,440 What? Let's say you stop at the gas 538 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,160 station, you go to QuikTrip or whatever Bucky's, you stop at 539 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,160 the gas station and you get your favorite bottled water. 540 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,960 Don't matter how much it cost. Which one are you pulling out of 541 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,280 the cooler? Pick any of them. 542 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,280 So. Favorite bottled water? 543 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,840 The best taste, Not the bottle shape, not the size of the 544 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,880 bottle, not the availability. They're all available to you in 545 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,280 this hypothetical, but the best one? 546 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,640 Again, there's only one right answer and y'all fill up the 547 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,240 comments. Too. 548 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,200 There's only one right answer. There's only one right answer, 549 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,400 so I'm going to scold you if you say the. 550 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,320 Wrong one. Can I be honest with you? 551 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,560 I don't care. No way bro, they do taste 552 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,120 different. They taste different, but it 553 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,640 doesn't. It's not like it matters to the 554 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,520 taste of the waters don't matter. 555 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,160 Like it's still water and I don't care. 556 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,160 This is not like we're talking about a good bourbon or we're 557 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,840 talking about your favorite soda. 558 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,320 It's it's water, man. It doesn't matter to me. 559 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,600 It might matter to you and I think it's OK. 560 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,720 I mean, it's fine. It does you. 561 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,520 It just doesn't matter to me. It's the source of life, my 562 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,480 friend. It's the most important thing. 563 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,840 OK, well I'll tell you then. I'll tell you since you went 564 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,640 with the cop out answer and I'm OK with. 565 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,560 It's not a cop out, it's a truth answer. 566 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,200 Which one's OK? Here we go. 567 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,760 The best tasting 1 is the one that cost me the least. 568 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,800 No way bro. I'm telling you, I don't care. 569 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,440 Well, just don't care. My favorite one's backpacking 570 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,720 exposures. You see his comment? 571 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,680 Hose water. Nope, the most recent comment. 572 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:05,760 Do you have a new one? That's not that's not water, 573 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,320 that's an energy drink. It's most it's mostly water, 574 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Mountain Dew. Amazing. 575 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,800 It's an energy drink. It's healthy, it's good for you, 576 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,440 gives you, gives you energy. No dude, I'm I'm telling you bar 577 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,920 none the best one. And gosh, I wish they'd changed 578 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080 their bottle shape because it doesn't fit in my cup holder 579 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,320 ever. Is the Fiji the big Fiji is the 580 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,240 one liter? Fiji is the best taste in water 581 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,880 I think I've ever had. It's overpriced. 582 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,880 I hate buying it, and I hate that the water bottle does not 583 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,480 fit in my truck. But you know, sometimes you got 584 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,040 to make sacrifice. You're going to have the best 585 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,280 water. You're going to have to let the 586 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,080 bottle sit in the passenger seat. 587 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,960 What can you do? I mean, it's like I said, it's 588 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,840 whatever people want. I just don't care. 589 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,160 But I we've got some great comments about this stuff if you 590 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,120 want to see them. I've been trying to catch, I've 591 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,040 been trying to catch a lot of them and I've missed probably 592 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,120 some, but I'm going to go and start us off before we got into 593 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,440 the water, like the actual water talk Suga kata Denzis said. 594 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,080 I use a Nalgene bottle as my pee bottle at night when I'm in my 595 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,320 hammock. Bright yellow. 596 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,760 I'm curious, are you talking bright yellow bottle or the 597 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,880 liquid that's going into it? If the liquid is bright yellow, 598 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,040 drink more water. Just saying. 599 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,160 Then Jeff Peters was answered. He said bladder last Nalgene 600 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,200 next. I I agree with him 100%. 601 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,960 That's exactly what I said So and I think you said the same 602 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,520 thing. So definitely agree with that. 603 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,920 Then Devin got in here and said hose water. 604 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,200 Yeah, take It was good as a kid, not so good as an adult. 605 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240 No, Brian Winburn said. Liquid death. 606 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,080 Mango chainsaw. Have you been drinking the 607 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,160 liquid Deus? I won't because they cost like 4 608 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,400 bucks for a bottle for a can of water and I'm like I got a water 609 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,720 filter on my refrigerator. I can go buy a mango, eat it and 610 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,640 put a slice in there or something, you know? 611 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,120 Yeah, Bridget's been drinking the liquid deaths and I say I 612 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,560 thought soda was it. She was like, I'm stopping soda 613 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,400 and I was like, great. She's like, I'm starting liquid 614 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,440 death. Like what? 615 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,480 That doubled the budget for your drinks 3. 616 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,000 Liquid deaths cost more than a 12 pack of soda. 617 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,440 That's expensive bro. It's like, oh, it's so 618 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,560 expensive, Nick Rambles said. Fiji. 619 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,960 Yes, where's my applause? But. 620 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,680 Said Fiji Chicken Little Tricks. Said Smartwater. 621 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,640 Alkaline all. Right, I like smartwater 622 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,120 alkaline. MK Ultra's in the house and he 623 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,000 said you ain't never had a cold Fuji water with a cucumber. 624 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Oh, did I say Fuji or Fiji? Which one is it now? 625 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,760 I don't even know. I don't know, man. 626 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,240 I think it was Fiji. You said Fiji, I think. 627 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,480 It's Fiji. Yeah, this one's This is a great 628 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,480 comment. Only real water drinkers get it. 629 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,640 I mean, I drink a lot of water. I just don't care. 630 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Here we go bro. Water tastes so different 631 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,160 depending on the brand. And then the very next comment I 632 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,720 love is no water. Tastes awesome. 633 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,360 Water is water. It's like air, you have to 634 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,560 breathe it. That's where I'm at. 635 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,240 You got to drink it. I don't care about the flavor. 636 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,400 And then the final comment, which I think is really 637 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,840 hilarious. It's outside comfort zone. 638 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,720 I don't know how 4 Loko hasn't jumped on the opportunity to 639 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360 rebrand as Dumb Water to compete with Smart Water. 640 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,520 Yeah bro, I the four Loko. That would be a funny rebrand. 641 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,480 Dude, what the death. How much money are they making 642 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,760 hand over fist now? I remember they come out those 643 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,480 tall cans and I was like that's weird is that person drinking a 644 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,480 beer right now? What is that? 645 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,680 And then? I have to defend myself. 646 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,920 I have to defend myself, OK? Brian Winburn said. 647 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,000 Says the guy with the Dydema tent. 648 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,160 Yeah, because I don't spend all my money on water. 649 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,080 You can afford the I can afford Dyneema because I don't spend $3 650 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,400 on a bottle of water. I don't even deny that fact. 651 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360 I don't even deny it. I will buy the I I bought a 652 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,520 Dyneema tent and I love it and guess what? 653 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,080 It keeps me dry and safe. You know what expensive water 654 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,520 does the same thing as regular water. 655 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,800 I'm not going to lie bro, I think that it might be $5 a 656 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,120 bottle. I love Brian. 657 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,400 I'm just, I know Brian. Like I'm just messing with it. 658 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,640 He he knows. He knows. 659 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,400 But somebody said that I always buy essential water. 660 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,800 I don't know what that means, but. 661 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,160 Oh, that's a brand. That's a popular brand. 662 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,400 Got a little big cross on it, Yeah. 663 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,080 Oh yes, Liquid Death is great. The seltzer and soda kind. 664 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,320 They're not $4.00 I'm I could have swore someone for $4.00 at 665 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,280 a gas station. No, you can get like a 12 pack 666 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520 of them. Well, maybe you can, maybe you 667 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,680 can't. I usually go to a gas station 668 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,760 before I get on the trail anyways and just buy a bottle of 669 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,600 water so I'm not doing any bioliquid death. 670 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,400 Of course, you can't reuse a can so. 671 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,960 Do you think if they if the gas like, let's say you were at a 672 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,160 popular hold on, we'll get to the comment you, you think if 673 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,880 you stopped at like a gas station on the way in, like one 674 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,239 of those up at Red River Gorge, they're serving backpacking side 675 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,280 by sides, hiking all kinds of outdoor stuff. 676 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,080 You think if they had like a free, free frozen section that 677 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,000 that would be popular enough to buy? 678 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:24,560 Like let's say you're going backpacking. 679 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,600 Do you want a frozen bottle and a non frozen so you got a nice 680 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,920 cold one for later? Or do you think they wouldn't 681 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,840 have enough sales that just be like this is a waste of money? 682 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,600 I don't know. That's a great question. 683 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,960 I guess we'll never know unless you start up a gas station and 684 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,440 start selling them. All right, go ahead. 685 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,960 I know you got some funny comments. 686 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,360 Oh, these, these are just funny. Let me get up here real quick. 687 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,440 Liquid death refers to how it'll kill your ability to be 688 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,120 financially liquid. Got to bust out that credit card 689 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:02,000 baby Jeff Peters. Liquid death is death to your 690 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,400 bank account. Oh man. 691 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,200 And then Nick Rambles is defendant man. 692 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,280 He's like, look at liquid death. It's actually not that 693 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,720 expensive. If you just get the regular 694 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,840 mountain water, you can buy it in a 12 pack for like almost 695 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,240 $12.00, which is still a dollar more expensive than a 12 pack of 696 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:24,840 soda. And it's water. 697 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,640 I just want to point out it's water and there's water in this 698 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,320 plus more stuff and I pay more for just the water part. 699 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,520 Yeah, but I think these Liquid Death drinkers are drinking like 700 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,480 the like the Doctor Pepper version of Liquid Death, the 701 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,200 Sprite version of Liquid Death. Like they're drinking the, I 702 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,680 guess it's carbonated water, but with a slight favor to me. 703 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,160 I would say that's kind of like, you know, when they run out of 704 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,680 the carbonation and the syrup at at whatever restaurant and then 705 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,240 they serve it to you and you're like, this tastes terrible. 706 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,200 It's either out of flavor or out of carbonation. 707 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,640 And you're like, it's so flat and nasty. 708 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880 I think that you're kind of inching toward that direction 709 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,720 with some of this flavored soda water, but I don't think. 710 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,640 Here's one that's like a 12 pack variety pack and this is the 711 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,960 flavored stuff and it's like 25 bucks. 712 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,600 Oh yeah, we're getting an expensive territory here. 713 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,160 Yeah, that's that's not cheap. That's the variety pack. 714 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,400 If I do just the Blueberry Buzz saw, it's $14.00. 715 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,640 So what's the one that's causing it to be so expensive? 716 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,600 Supplies, man. Man, the grim leafer that sounds 717 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,480 like a it can refer to a lot of different things. 718 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,760 You can. There's not a there's not a 719 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,720 price for that one. But I mean, you're still talking 720 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,280 like on the cheap end. 15 bucks for a 12 pack. 721 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,520 Yeah, it's expensive, but you know, soda's expensive too. 722 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,240 Everybody's got their vase. Yeah, yeah. 723 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,120 That's that's true. Backpacking's way more 724 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,080 expensive. Yeah, Oh, gosh, Everything we do 725 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,480 in backpacking is expensive. Hey, let's, let's talk about 726 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,840 something's coming up for you real soon. 727 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,480 Here you are getting ready to go on a kayaking trip this weekend, 728 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,840 saying it might be your last kayaking trip of the summer. 729 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,160 Yeah dude, backpacking season is nearly in full swing for me 730 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,400 right now. Still a little too hot. 731 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,480 I don't know if Jonathan's going to talk about it. 732 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,200 He just took a backpacking trip and he said they had to leave 733 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,200 early because they were hitting, like, heat exhaustion levels. 734 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,960 I think he kind of got sick and, you know, they had to go back to 735 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,440 the car. And yeah, he told me they ended. 736 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,840 Up doing like 24 miles and like over 20 was on one day. 737 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,920 Yeah, I think they've done like 21 and some change, but that day 738 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,680 it was 94° or something. I said I just can't do it, man. 739 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,560 My body, I don't care how ultralight I go, 94°, I can't 740 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,080 backpack. And so I think that September, 741 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,600 man, that's my birthday month. We're going to try to celebrate. 742 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,720 Want to try to get out on trail this. 743 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,000 I'm headed over hit the lake bro. 744 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,160 My last kayaking trip of the season I believe. 745 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,960 Get some fishing in swimming, enjoy the hot weather while I 746 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,760 can and then moving forward. It's going to be trail miles. 747 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,080 I'm looking forward. To it see I'm losing. 748 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,040 I'm losing every weekend in September. 749 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,080 Oh, you're busy guy, huh? What do you got? 750 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,760 Work. My daughter is playing 751 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,080 volleyball. Oh my goodness. 752 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,320 And all of her. Games are on Saturdays and 753 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,320 Sundays so no weekend. No weekend trips for me man. 754 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,160 I'll be doing. I'll probably get out for a few 755 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,800 overnights like during the week here and there, but I won't be 756 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,520 able to do weekends. Well, I've got good news for 757 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,800 you, the trails going to be slow whenever you're on it. 758 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,440 Dude here's the thing, my favorite time to backpack is 759 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,840 about November till March. That is by far my favorite time 760 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,560 to backpack. That is when it's way more 761 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,800 comfortable. I love it, I love it. 762 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:12,880 I was also going to say on here, just looking at the future, if 763 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,800 anybody is wanting to come hang out, meet some people that do 764 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,040 YouTube or podcasting or whatever in the backpacking 765 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,440 realm, it's kind of regional. You have to live fairly close 766 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,080 by. But unless you just want to 767 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,560 drive super far, I think Tim Buckley's driving like 9 hours. 768 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,920 So if that's you, you be you. Wow I can confirm. 769 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,800 We already said on here the dates, but I can confirm October 770 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,520 10th through 12th are going to be the official meet up dates. 771 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,640 We call the Red River Gorge YouTube meet up. 772 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,080 You don't know where that is, just Google it. 773 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,440 It's in northeastern Kentucky, kind of around the top of Daniel 774 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,480 Boone National Forest. But October 10th through the 775 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,640 12th, I think I'll be there all the days. 776 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,320 I think Bridget, she's probably going to spend one day there and 777 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,240 then head on back and I'll be hanging out with everybody. 778 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,120 But. I'm planning on being there too. 779 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,720 I'm planning on being there too. I, we, we did say that we're 780 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:15,320 going to meet up at Hanson's Point, but I think we're going 781 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,560 to see if we can find a different spot that Hanson's 782 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,400 Point is awesome. It's a dry camp, so you have to 783 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,200 carry in your water and it's a couple miles in. 784 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,440 If you want water. It's about, I don't know, 1/4 of 785 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,960 a mile to 1/2 mile to go get it. You got to hike back to uphill. 786 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,840 But I want to see if we can figure out a good spot that is 787 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,360 not a dry camping spot, but also has views and enough space for 788 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,160 people to spread out. We've had 10 people before. 789 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,040 We've had 40 people before. So it's open to the public. 790 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,160 I'll give more details as we get closer, but for right now I just 791 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,760 have the dates and I think that's about it. 792 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,920 Yeah, it's a good time. Every time we do that meet up. 793 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,120 It's just a lot of fun. And if you can come out for it, 794 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,960 come out for it. You don't have to have a YouTube 795 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,360 channel to come to our YouTube meet up. 796 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,480 No, it's open to the public and if you are like my, if you're 797 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,920 somebody that enjoys this podcast, the stuff that we talk 798 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,240 about on here is kind of like general conversation, a bunch of 799 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:21,880 gear nerds too. You're checking out everybody's 800 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,560 hammocks and tents and their backpack and what kind of foods 801 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,440 did they bring and sometimes trying all kinds of different 802 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,480 foods too. I don't it's a good time. 803 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,640 Every year I went, I've had fun and I've went. 804 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,480 I guess this is Year 5 maybe? I'm not sure. 805 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,800 I've been I've been the last few years, so all I know is it's a 806 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,680 lot of fun, a lot of cool people show up and be ready to saw a 807 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,160 lot of wood. Yeah, break a saw. 808 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,960 Every every year's a lot of wood sawed. 809 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,200 So now I know if but if Buckley's going to be there, he 810 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,040 is a sewing machine. I remember one year he came and 811 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,320 we came back from a hike or something and next thing you 812 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,760 know, the entire like every tree that had ever existed that had 813 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,960 fallen was sawed up and was sitting there in a pile ready 814 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,840 for the next night. That's the way we like it, dude. 815 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:17,160 Brian Winburn brought that giant like Cortana and it just eats. 816 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,920 Bro so I'm gonna bring a shot if it's not too far of a hike. 817 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,760 I got a chainsaw I might bring. I got a little electric chainsaw 818 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,640 I bring but. I've got a big electric chainsaw 819 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,600 I might bring. Oh, that I like the sound of 820 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,920 that. And I see in the comments that 821 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,720 yeah, you you can car camp and I thought about that there are a 822 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:36,160 few drawbacks if you car camp for meet up. 823 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,840 And if we moved it from the gorge to somewhere else, it'd 824 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,800 probably be a little bit more cost effective. 825 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,760 But those are like official gorge campsite. 826 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,080 So it's just a standard fee and you'd have to rent a lot of 827 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,080 spots, but. You know, we will do some 828 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,680 research like we're, we were talking about this the other 829 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,720 day. We could do some research and 830 00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:55,920 maybe we can, we can always change it up if we feel like it. 831 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,400 But we're we're not just that. We haven't decided on like where 832 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,760 yet. Officially so, yeah. 833 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,440 But yeah, we got a couple months till then anyway, so hopefully 834 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,840 meet some new people and hopefully see some familiar 835 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,560 faces too and just hang out and have a good time. 836 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,640 Absolutely. So this is going to be a little 837 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,080 bit shorter episode today, folks. 838 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,360 Jeremiah and I actually have some extra responsibilities 839 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,840 today and so we're going to get out of here a little earlier 840 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,880 than normal. Hope you guys enjoyed the chat 841 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,480 next week. We got a great episode for you. 842 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,400 We're going to talk about some things that hikers don't 843 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,520 normally talk about. And the week after that. 844 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,760 This is exciting. We've got some good friends 845 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,040 coming in Metro on the move and Chris Oconee are going to be 846 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,560 here to talk about their completion of the Appalachian 847 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,560 Trail just recently. Cannot wait for them to come in. 848 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,720 And we want you to do a little homework over the next two 849 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,600 weeks. See, next week's not going to be 850 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,040 live. I'm actually out of town and 851 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,760 we've already recorded the episode, but it will air next 852 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,040 week. But we want you to do some 853 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,640 research over the next two weeks and we want you to come prepared 854 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,000 to talk about your favorite brand of toilet paper to use on 855 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000 trail. And I'll just leave it at that. 856 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:09,600 I'll just that's easy out, Mark. Easy out, Mark. 857 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,000 Yep. And if you missed last week, we 858 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,880 had Moose Mutlow on. He was awesome. 859 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,680 Go check that episode out. And for myself and Jeremiah, we 860 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,440 will see you guys on the next one.