1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,080 Yeah. Put the team on my back. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,480 Welcome to the backpacking podcast brought to you by 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,840 Outdoor Vitals, makers of Performance First Ultra Light 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,920 Gear. If I sound a little down today, 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,000 it's because Jeremiah Today is, as it is titled in the 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,920 description, the final live stream. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:25,360 The final live stream. Yeah, the final one, Yeah, it's 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,240 been a good run. It's been a good run, yeah. 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,280 I feel sad. Yeah, I, I just, it's hard, you 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,320 know, we've been doing this now for six years and it's been a 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,280 lot of fun. Had a lot of good memories. 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:47,200 But today's the day we wrap it up and we will not be doing 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,080 another live stream today. We'll do 1 next week, but we 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,920 can't do another 1 today. Happy April Fools to everybody 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,600 here on the Backpacking Podcast. We are so glad to have you. 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,440 All right here. And people already called us 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,200 out. Jeff Peters has called us a 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,520 liar. Absolutely. 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,800 This is not the last one. But let's go ahead and get these 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,520 on here final, you liars. Yeah, right. 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,920 Jay Flo's telling us it's April Fools. 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,320 Wait a second. I don't know about this one. 23 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:24,240 David Cooper. Yay. 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,280 They're going to be gone. We'll find somebody better to 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,960 listen to. Wait a second. 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,520 Like there's more Suga Canadensis. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Good riddance. Oh man. 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,960 Oh my gosh. It's just it's hurting my 29 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:39,560 feelings now. We should have never titled it 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,320 that. My fragile heart can't handle 31 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:46,600 this. Stringer, you scared me. 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,680 Welcome to the show. Josh Junkin says almost made me 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,240 want to jump off the Indian staircase. 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,880 So Jeremiah, you want to tell us a little bit about this brand 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,920 new tent that Outdoor Vitals has come out with? 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Yes Backpacking podcast brought to you by Outdoor Vitals, makers 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,360 of performance first ultralight gear. 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,320 And last week they released this circ trekking pole tent and it's 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,080 ideal for ultralight backpacking through hiking, Alpine and high 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,960 humidity environments. Taller backpackers seeking 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,320 better fit. That would be me. 42 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Taller backpackers and fast packing and minimalist setups. 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,480 And I'll give you a quick blurb blurb about the tent. 44 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,760 It is engineered for backpackers who want maximum usable space, 45 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:35,240 exceptional airflow, and reliable wet performance. 46 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,280 It only weighs about 1 LB thirteen oz. 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,760 That is including John the guy. Lines, stuff sacks. 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Steaks are not included. And that is not made out of 49 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,760 Dynamo, folks. That is a lightweight tent. 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,920 That's not made out of dynamic. That's pretty impressive. 51 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:58,960 Yeah, man, it's 53 inches for Peacocks, 44 on the low end and 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:05,200 it's a a 9091 by 28 inch floor. So something that I can actually 53 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,720 fit in. And you heard me last week. 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,280 If you, if you listen to our most recent episode, I'm 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,520 committing to trying out the circ tent because I pretty much 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,960 exclusively hammock camp and I did over the weekend, but I'm 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,960 going to break out the Cirque tint. 58 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,000 And another quick announcement. By the way, John did put the 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,400 last live stream or our final episode or something like that 60 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,840 in the title. And next week we'll have a 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,840 recorded episode that will release on YouTube, Spotify, 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Apple podcast everywhere. That'll be out on Friday. 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,400 So if you're one of our normal live stream listeners, you pop 64 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,760 on here and chat with us and stuff. 65 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,200 We won't have one next week, but you will have content out there, 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,080 so enjoy the recorded episode and we're going to have a lot of 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,920 fun with that so. We are and and David Cooper 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,360 said, yeah, let's listen to a couple bear tacos talk about a 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,920 ground tent. I'm offended by that. 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,320 It's bear burrito. Thank you. 71 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Bear burrito, not bear Taco. Jeremiah with the being April 72 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Fools. I think it's, I think it's 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,880 important that we share some of the awesome April Fools material 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,080 that's been sent out over the last few days from the outdoor 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,519 industry. So if it's OK with you, I'd like 76 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:21,240 to show a few of these emails that I got over the last few 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,920 days. We looked at these before we got 78 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,360 online and they're fantastic. Check this out. 79 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,040 So the first one I'm going to show you is from Garage Grown 80 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,680 Gear, and this is from a company called Zeta and Zeta has created 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,640 Alpha everything, including an Alpha direct backpack, a new 82 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,400 cottage brand expanding what Polar tech Alpha direct fleece 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,040 can do. They've got a rock sack. 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,560 You've got a little pocket there for your your first aid kit. 85 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,880 You've got a place to put your cook pot. 86 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,960 Heck, man, they're even making tents. 87 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Even making tents. That's right. 88 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,800 Alpha direct for everybody, man, Alpha direct for everybody. 89 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:08,640 But you know, not to be outdone, our good friends over at Darn 90 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,160 Tough have come out with a new item that I think it's going to 91 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,840 be really interesting for a lot of people and it is called the 92 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:18,560 ankle blanket. Oh my goodness. 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,800 They've even got a great testimony for this one. 94 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,600 It says meet our latest innovation in minimalist 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,880 lounging designed for those who find socks too restrictive and 96 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,320 being barefoot too vulnerable, comfort you didn't know you 97 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,680 needed. Knit for a limited time only and 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,960 get this testimony on this one. I used to spend hours cutting 99 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,680 the feet off my micro hiker hiker crews to achieve this 100 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,120 level of draftiness. Finally, Darn Tough did the work 101 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,920 for me. My arches are freezing, but my 102 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,120 ankles have never felt more supported during a 12 hour nap. 103 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,400 How awesome is that? Everybody go out and get 104 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:58,400 yourselves some ankle blankets. And, and, and here's another 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,960 one. This is from a European freeze 106 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,200 freeze dried food company called Firepot. 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,880 They have created a brand new Firepot restaurant. 108 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,320 And if you're wondering what a freeze dried restaurant is, this 109 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,880 is exactly what it is. It says they'd come up with a 110 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,880 solution. Welcome to the Fire Pot fine 111 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,280 dining experience, the world's first restaurant for outdoor 112 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,600 people. You can expect the same 113 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,880 restaurant quality meals you're used to ordering online, 114 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,560 lovingly served in person, complete with seasonal specials 115 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,600 and fresh mountain water for the table. 116 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,160 Can you imagine a restaurant? You go to the restaurant and 117 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,920 they bring you like Mountain House or Fire pot or peak 118 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,360 refuel. Yeah, well, and, and they've 119 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,440 even added a climbing gym, a selfie wall and a specially 120 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,640 designed cloak room so your kit can come with you. 121 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,720 How nice is that? How nice is that? 122 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,200 But you know, it wasn't just the, the, the backpacking 123 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,600 industry that came out with some great stuff. 124 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,360 I don't know about you guys, but if you grill out, you know that 125 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,920 cleaning off your grill is a pain in the butt. 126 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,000 And for a lot of us, we don't like doing it, but sometimes you 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,080 need to. And and so our good friends over 128 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,480 at Rescue have created a brand new cleaner called the Tactic 129 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Grill Pro Plus. The Tactic Grill Pro Plus 130 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Picatinny Rail System, dual flashlight mounts, Laser Greek 131 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,360 grease sight, flamethrower with an ACOG scope and night vision 132 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,440 compatible, you will have no problem cleaning off your grill 133 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:34,200 using this monster right here. Yeah, they subbed out the barrel 134 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,080 and the trigger in the firing pit and all that stuff for the 135 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,720 brush. The most powerful brush known to 136 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,680 man. Oh, exactly, exactly. 137 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,120 And, and it's not just in grilling and hiking, but even in 138 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,680 the fishing and and hunting category. 139 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Drake has come out with something fantastic for the 140 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,720 summer and that's brand new summer waiters. 141 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,400 Everybody knows that in the summer, waiters can get hot. 142 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,760 I mean, you want to keep your feet and your legs dry, so get 143 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,440 some summer waiters because you can zip those legs off at the 144 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,760 end of the day. Too hot for waiters? 145 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Just zip them off. That's right, coming to a retail 146 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,960 store near. You. 147 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,920 Yeah, I didn't know that. Drake, not only does he perform, 148 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,800 he's also getting into the outdoor industry. 149 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,440 Huh. Oh yeah. 150 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,560 I mean. That's playing, Yeah, he. 151 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,240 He's he's he's he never quits. He don't. 152 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,120 Stop, he even makes zip off lighters. 153 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,480 I don't think Drake does much hunting. 154 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,160 What do you think? Dude, I don't think Drake knows 155 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,159 what hunting is. Yeah, yeah, he's, he's got more 156 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:38,000 money than God, but I don't think he gets out there and 157 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,640 hunts very much. No, I highly doubt that he does 158 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,240 it all, but I love April Fools. It's one of my favorite times of 159 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,160 the year and I get I just crack up at the stuff these companies 160 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,000 send out. So I wanted to share a few of 161 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,600 those with you guys. We got a lot of comments coming 162 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,440 in here. I haven't even looked at holy 163 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,040 cow, they're coming like hot and heavy. 164 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,440 This. You guys have been awesome the 165 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,080 last few weeks. I just want to point that out. 166 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,800 We've had some great comments. There's somebody in here, said 167 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,520 the Kelty Side Hug double backpack. 168 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,960 I didn't get that one in the e-mail. 169 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,760 I have to look for that. The electric backpacking stove 170 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,000 from the Trek Electric. Backpacking. 171 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:21,160 Stove the The Moonbeam ice cream is on its fourth week now. 172 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,360 Yes yeah. Beam ice cream. 173 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,320 That is our little sticker challenge. 174 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,960 I haven't changed my my lyrics in a bit. 175 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:34,880 So J Flow, loyal listener and watcher of the live streams, is 176 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,360 actively calling me out and I appreciate the constructive 177 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,600 feedback. And next week, well, the week 178 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,080 after, I'll change it so you have my word, J Flow. 179 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,680 And if I don't remember somebody getting mine last week was the 180 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:48,960 thing. I didn't. 181 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,400 Remember somebody getting mine last week? 182 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,920 So if you didn't see, Jay Flo can't win anymore. 183 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,400 He's won too many times. So he just gave it to somebody. 184 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,280 If you can say it next, you're probably going to be the winner 185 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,640 now. So because I don't remember 186 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,040 somebody saying mine last week. So we'll see what happens. 187 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,120 Yeah, we shall wait and see. Yeah. 188 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:12,760 Jeremiah, can we talk a little bit about something that's 189 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,240 happened with the PCT that we kind of were up in arms about a 190 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,760 couple months ago? Yeah, I looked into it because 191 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,920 we we had announced on here after finding out that there was 192 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,440 some confusion in the federal government realm of things when 193 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,960 it comes to PCT hikers and starting at the southern 194 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,520 terminus. And so I saw that there's been 195 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,080 some clarification and John, John pretty much celebrated a 196 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,560 few weeks ago when what's the lady's name that got? 197 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,560 She got fired. Well, she got, she got moved. 198 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:56,320 She got, she got redistricted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's, she got 199 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,720 a different title, so I don't. It wasn't firing technically, 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,400 but anyway, they moved her out and we had, we had talked about 201 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,400 all the wild stuff like the wall, the border wall going 202 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,440 through Big Bend and how you couldn't access the southern 203 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,120 terminus anymore on the PCT. But apparently there's been a 204 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,640 reversal now. And if you're going to do the 205 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,640 PCT through hike, you are able to officially start at the 206 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,960 southern terminus. Now, the feds do say no touchy, 207 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,640 touchy on the border wall. You're not allowed to approach 208 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,520 it. You're not allowed to lay a 209 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,000 finger on it. I don't know. 210 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 I'm not really sure how they're policing that in the middle of 211 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,920 the desert when the only people there are PCT hikers and people 212 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:45,280 dropping off PCT hikers. So I don't know that that they 213 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,520 really have a lot of teeth in that rule, but I don't know what 214 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,600 do you think? You think that the Christy Gnome 215 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,480 situations had something to do with this? 216 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Man, it's amazing how many things have changed since she 217 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,080 got fired. That's all I'm saying. 218 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,680 Well, correlation doesn't equal causation, John. 219 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,200 No, but it sure does make it look like Christy Gnome got 220 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,600 fired and a lot of things changed. 221 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:09,800 Yeah. Very specific things. 222 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,920 I want to find out if they're going to still put that wall up 223 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,040 in front of the Rio Grande. I'm praying they're not, but you 224 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,800 know, that's I will read though. It's really interesting. 225 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,160 The PCTA gave an update on March 18th and it says the US Border 226 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,800 Patrol and the US Military express recognition of what a 227 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,280 tremendous moment it is for hikers and equestrians who will 228 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,440 be starting or ending their journey on the trail at the 229 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,760 southern terminus monument. Safety continues to be their top 230 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,800 priority. That being said, trail users can 231 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,160 now enter the National Defense area to take or to visit or take 232 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,400 a picture with the wall. So it's it does say that comes 233 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,200 with restrictions. Will only be able to enter or 234 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,920 exit the restricted area area via a designated opening in the 235 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,520 fence and must only walk North and South without traveling 236 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,640 along the walls adjacent Access Rd. 237 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:01,000 So. Common sense. 238 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:06,280 Don't climb over the fence, walk through the open area to get to. 239 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,280 Are we putting this into words? What's going on here? 240 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,040 I don't know, that's just what they said. 241 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,160 They just said it says it's important that all visitors 242 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,160 continue respecting posted boundaries and follow current 243 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,560 regulations. The PCTA will continue to update 244 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:21,600 information on access and safety precautions as needed. 245 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,120 Can I bring up something that shocked me? 246 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,640 I didn't know this. Please. 247 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,360 They said equestrians, so there are people that that ride horses 248 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,880 and do the PCT. I think that isn't the, isn't 249 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,400 there specific places on the PCT that you can't do the horses? 250 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,760 I think the maybe the first one you get to is the Sierras 251 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,160 because I know that I remember watching Dixie's videos and she 252 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,360 was like the elevation up there and the rivers that you have to 253 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,600 cross and all that stuff. Just like the rugged terrain. 254 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,680 I think that she said gone through those passes you 255 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:56,280 couldn't do horse, but the rest of its kind of graded for a 256 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,200 horse. So that makes sense. 257 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:02,400 You know, the, the, the incline isn't as bad for the hacker. 258 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,880 So I don't want to say it's an easier trail than the AT, but 259 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,720 maybe like the inclines are not as steep, but I don't know. 260 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,280 Let me let me double check on that. 261 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,800 It'll be interesting to see what they do with the Canada 1 262 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,720 because Steve right brought says you can't get to the Canada 1 263 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,920 either, so I'm interested to see if something happens there where 264 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,720 we can fix that problem. What's what's the deal with the 265 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Canada? I think we. 266 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,440 Talked about it or you know you. Got to the specifics. 267 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,360 They've made it so you can't get to it or you can't. 268 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Was it you can't get you can't get a ride there or something? 269 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,560 It was some weird, some weird thing with that. 270 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:42,120 You know, whenever I'd done yes, the long trail you you drop off 271 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,480 at the northern terminus, but you if you want to start at the 272 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,120 north. John's taking a drink. 273 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,880 You start at the northern terminus. 274 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,320 You can if you want, but that obelisk is literally just in the 275 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,080 middle of the woods. Like, you see, the Canadian 276 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,080 border is this gap where they've moaned and cut all the 277 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,720 vegetation out, and it's just a strip of grass, this wide strip. 278 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,240 But there's nobody out there policing it. 279 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,280 There's not like somebody at the obelisk, like a Ranger saying 280 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,920 hey, I need your passport so you can walk into Canada so. 281 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,720 OK here. Here's the issue we talked 282 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,640 about. This is from last January. 283 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,640 It says Canada has permanently discontinued the PCT hiker entry 284 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,400 permit, meaning northbound through hikers can no longer 285 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,000 enter Canada via the PCT. Hikers must now turn around at 286 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,680 the US Canada Border monument and backtrack 30 miles to Hart's 287 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Pass, adding significant mileage to the end of their hike. 288 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,840 Yeah, sorry. I should remember, I think I'm 289 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,160 the one that wrote that Downs. You are, that's fine. 290 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,160 You are. But that's OK, man. 291 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,680 It you know it that happens, that happens. 292 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,720 I also got a the horse update for you, unless you have 293 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:45,960 anything else to say about Canada. 294 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,840 No, we're good. It looks like for the horses 295 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,920 that the Lassen. Is that how you say that 296 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,360 Volcanic National Park, Lassen, Lassen and I've never been there 297 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,240 before. It's LASSEN. 298 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,880 They can't go through there. They also can't do Yosemite 299 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,760 National Park and select sections. 300 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,680 They can't do Crater Lake National Park in the PCT 301 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,040 corridor. They can't do the Bridge of the 302 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Gods Crossing. They can't do Goat Rocks 303 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,480 Wilderness or Glacier Peak Wilderness on select sections. 304 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,080 And says the reason why is, is because some of it's just 305 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,200 impractical, like you got steep granite train, you got narrow 306 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,880 ledges, some parts have ladders. So obviously, you know, the 307 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,400 horses can't go through those sections. 308 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,680 So, so it looks like there's like 6 different areas where 309 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,800 you'd have to detour and then either do a road walk or I'm not 310 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,040 sure. I guess you'd have to pay 311 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,240 somebody to transport your horse for you, right? 312 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,200 Like there's all kind of, we hit this state right here. 313 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,600 The Bluegrass State is like horse racing capital of the 314 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,880 world. You got Churchill Downs. 315 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,200 So we see horses are just part of life around here everywhere 316 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,240 you go. They're everywhere. 317 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,080 They're everywhere down here. But I would imagine that it 318 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,320 might get a little expensive. You know, you're having to pay 319 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,920 somebody to come and pick you up and transport your horse. 320 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,119 So they're having to pull a trailer around one of these 321 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,480 national parks or these select sections and then drop you back 322 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,760 off. So really, it's not even 323 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,599 possible to do a straight through hike on, you know, 324 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:14,520 equestrian style. Yeah, of course you got a one or 325 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,200 two if people really are trying to do thru hikes there, so. 326 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,920 Sure. Yeah, I'm, I'm sure the the 327 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,560 oddball out might be, but I'd say a lot of people are like, 328 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,920 let me do this three day trip where we're all riding our 329 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,240 horses together and we could do it on this section of the PC 330 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,080 kind of like we do around here on foot. 331 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,320 Yeah, yeah, we come back, back. Wait a second. 332 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,400 David Cooper's a little confused. 333 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,200 He says wait, there's horse racing in Kentucky? 334 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,120 Only sometimes just. Every once in a while we don't 335 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:44,120 do a lot of it. Hey Jeremiah, didn't you go on a 336 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:48,520 trip this past week? Oh bro so much fun. 337 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,880 Big group too. Yeah, I would. 338 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,960 Well, I was, I was trying to schedule an annual through hike 339 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,440 of the Beaver Creek Wilderness, which is pretty close to where I 340 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,400 live. And I think the last time we got 341 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,320 to do it might have been 2023. And so we got this core group 342 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,760 here at Kentucky guys that I think there's six of us that 343 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,920 typically go and ask Jonathan what all trails if he wanted to 344 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,680 go to. And he said, yeah, let's do it. 345 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,720 And then I think Darwin off the rails and backpacking with 346 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,520 Buckley, they were planning on coming down to Red River Gorge 347 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,920 over the weekend. Excuse me. 348 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,120 And Jason's like, what do you think about them coming to? 349 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,400 And I said, yeah, that sounds good. 350 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,760 I love hanging out with those guys. 351 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:37,360 And so one of the Kentucky guys couldn't make it. 352 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,880 So we ended up with 9. And then Rich he, he lives like 353 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,320 1520 minutes from Buckley. I couldn't believe it. 354 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:50,360 So small world whenever your friends meet each other and then 355 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:53,080 they live next to each other and so y'all get to go backpacking 356 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,640 together. So nine of us ended up there and 357 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,680 I didn't get off work till like 3:00. 358 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,160 So everybody was there except for me, Matt and Jonathan. 359 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,240 So we met and shuttled vehicles and hiked in and I was looking 360 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,520 at the weather the whole time, man. 361 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Because, you know, I you haven't mentioned it on air yet, but for 362 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,760 the people that are watching. Jeremiah's cornrows, people, you 363 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,760 are red cornrows. Yeah, I got my red cornrows, 6 364 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,320 of them in this week, and I got my hair. 365 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,160 We're going to start calling them string daddy. 366 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,280 String daddy That's hilarious dude. 367 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,800 So I got this done Friday and I said OK, no maintenance. 368 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,160 Whenever you get out to the woods, you know, normally I take 369 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,200 this little like travel size hair brush and when you got 370 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,120 cornrows you can't brush your hair because they're in rows. 371 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,680 So I said OK, this would be great. 372 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:54,640 Got it done Friday went out and I kept watching the weather 373 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,120 because I was like my hair is going to melt bro by the time 374 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:00,840 because I have gorilla snot the way that this is done. 375 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,960 Is you have to do some kind of wait you have. 376 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,120 What? Gorilla snot. 377 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,320 What in the What is gorilla snot? 378 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Gorilla snot is like super glue for your hair bro. 379 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,720 There's a meter, you know how like if you do a wine tasting or 380 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,320 something, they have that meter like sweet, semi sweet, dry like 381 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:22,320 and then the wine bottle puts like a little a little dot on 382 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,280 there where you know where it falls on that meter. 383 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,800 Well, you do the same thing with your jail. 384 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,240 So you got like barely holds all the way up to stiff hold. 385 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,800 And this oh, Jeremiah's neutral name red cord. 386 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,840 Is that what that says? That's. 387 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,320 What that says so the. Meter goes from basically no 388 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,920 hold to, you know, buckle up. And this one was Max Holt, the 389 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,640 gorilla snot So Oh. Gosh, I thought. 390 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,720 Man, if it starts raining out here, see we I was supposed to 391 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,720 meet everybody at 4:00 and half the group, well over half the 392 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,360 group, 6 out of the nine were there at like 11:00 AM and I 393 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:06,120 said well I'm going to get there at 4:00 and guess what time the 394 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:10,120 rain supposed to start? 4:00 So. 395 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Always. Oh heaven bro, the time I'm 396 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,080 supposed to arrive, it's always supposed to start raining. 397 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:16,800 Let. Me see. 398 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,960 Hold on, hold on. Devin's on here and he says 399 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,360 dancers use snot. My kid when she performs has it. 400 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,000 Yeah, you know what's up, Devin? Resting. 401 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:31,280 Yeah, now he's. I noticed that was a daughter. 402 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,720 Yeah. What about? 403 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,160 Right. What about the guys we can use 404 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,480 gorilla snot too? It's OK, It's whatever you want 405 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,160 to do. Man, that's just a strange name 406 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,400 for anything. I mean, I think a Gorilla tape. 407 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,480 Yeah. Gorilla Glue. 408 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,200 I know what that is. And Gorilla Glue. 409 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,480 So is it the same brand? Everything was in Spanish on the 410 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,600 bottle, so I'm guessing that. You sure it actually said 411 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,320 gorilla snot? That's the question. 412 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,240 It's a gorilla snot in English and it had a big picture of a 413 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,040 gorilla on there, but all the directions and everything were 414 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,840 in Spanish. So is is that cultural 415 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,880 appropriation? Well, maybe by the gorillas, I 416 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,760 don't know. Yeah, that David Clippers asking 417 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,520 that. Is that a cult? 418 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,840 Is that cultural appropriation? Yeah. 419 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:21,280 Well, I'll tell you what, I got there at 4:00 and the rain, 420 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,560 there was just a few sprinkles. So I said let's keep it moving. 421 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,920 Now you do have to watch out for sticks. 422 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,960 Sticks will reach out and grab your hair and then that doesn't 423 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,800 turn out great. So anyway, I arrived at camp and 424 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,600 we, we're actually coming over the hill, bro. 425 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,840 We, we, we had set to meet at this campsite that we've been to 426 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,040 before. And there is, there's a bench 427 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,920 there, There's a, a log cutting location. 428 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,880 There is a big fire ring with a chimney and like different pads 429 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,760 to put tents on. Awesome. 430 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,400 Right by the Creek. I get there and I see the 431 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,200 chimney and I'm like, well, there's the chimney guys. 432 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,600 We got to be closing in. Jeremiah listens to rap music 433 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:10,240 performed with a banjo. The comments are great. 434 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,040 These comments are cracking. Me up, keep them coming. 435 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,840 I love the comments. So anyway, I see the chimney and 436 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,920 I'm like, well, we're here. And then I hear, I hear somebody 437 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,920 yell, Jeremiah. And apparently they've been 438 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,880 yelling every 30 minutes for, like, the past two hours. 439 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,320 And you, they were trying to say, you know, are we about to 440 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,680 arrive? Because it was getting about 441 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,360 that time. They knew that I was supposed to 442 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,320 get there at 4:00. And then we still had to hike in 443 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,000 like a mile or two. So we were probably 100 yards 444 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,440 out. And I hear Jeremiah and I gave 445 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,720 him a big hi. Yeah. 446 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,520 And then everybody started laughing and hooping and 447 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,920 hollering, celebrating. And I walk into the campsite, 448 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,800 bro, and there is trees everywhere. 449 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,720 That big ice storm that came through, you know, like last 450 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,880 month or the month before that downed so many trees it totally 451 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,360 demolished the campsite. I walked in the campsite and 452 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,520 there was a tree laying right where the bench was supposed to 453 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,360 be, the fire pit, a giant tree in it. 454 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:10,080 And I'm not talking about like, let's just cut these out of the 455 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,640 way. These trees are massive, so 456 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,280 there's no getting rid of them. You'd have to have like a legit 457 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,840 chainsaw or Forest Service or something to come in and clean 458 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,560 that up. And it's a wilderness area, so 459 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,080 guess what? They ain't coming. 460 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,560 They're not coming. Nope. 461 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,560 We had to establish a new campsite on the other side of 462 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,840 the Creek. Luckily this is wilderness area, 463 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,840 so there's not really any official trails. 464 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,440 You just go out there and you can wander as much as you want. 465 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,560 Nowhere is really off limits and you can camp wherever. 466 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,800 So we set up a campsite on the other side of the water where we 467 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:47,280 would normally be, and everybody has everything set up and me, 468 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,280 Jonathan and Matt haven't set up well. 469 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,440 I start saying hi to everybody. Matt goes to set his stuff up 470 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,560 because he shuttled with me, and Jonathan goes to set his stuff 471 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,720 up and I break out my chair and sit down around the fire and 472 00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,960 just start hanging out and talking. 473 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,920 So Matt gets his tent set up. I'm watching Jonathan and Rich 474 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040 clear out a spot for Jonathan's hammock. 475 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,880 Remember, there's deadfall everywhere, bro. 476 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,680 Right, right, right. Oh, they're having to cut a dead 477 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,120 tree out of the way so Jonathan has enough room that he can set 478 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,800 his hammock up and he doesn't have a tree to fall on him in 479 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,440 the middle of the night. There's son. 480 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,520 Man, I don't know how we had so many people do this. 481 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,000 YouTube. We didn't get to some video. 482 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,040 I'm watching them. This tree falls directly on top 483 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,320 of Jonathan's backpack, and he had already unpacked some of it. 484 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,200 And I guess he figured out, hey, I got to move, you know, move 485 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,440 this tree out the way before I can finish. 486 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,560 The rest of the stuff fell directly on his background. 487 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,360 I said, oh, my goodness, guys, guys, guys. 488 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,600 The tree just Stringer on timber. 489 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,680 And then I say, is everything OK? 490 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,120 He's like, yeah, I think it's all right. 491 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,320 It's all right. And then he then he brings his 492 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,920 chair over to sit around the fire, and, Yep, it's broken. 493 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,360 He broke it. The chair broke. 494 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,800 I think that was the only casualty of war for that tree 495 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,360 falling. That's. 496 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,920 That's awful. And I can I say something real 497 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,960 quick for for him? Absolutely. 498 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,000 Jonathan, you are not on the band list this week. 499 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,680 I looked. So if you want to comment, if 500 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,360 you're watching, you can and you're not in jail. 501 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,960 So I'll throw that out there for him. 502 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,960 So see, he's setting up, and as he's setting up, a tree falls 503 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,240 behind him. No, they cut a tree and didn't 504 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,920 move the backpack. Out and they dropped the tree on 505 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,480 his backpack. With a silky saw the Gomboy, 506 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,080 yes, they saw the tree and the tree was probably, I don't know, 507 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,240 maybe like 6 inches in diameter, maybe a little bit bigger than 508 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,480 there. So it wasn't the biggest tree in 509 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,480 the world, but it was still, you know, several 100 lbs or 510 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,360 whatever. I don't know, 200 lbs. 511 00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:54,640 And nothing pulled any holes in his backpack or anything like 512 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,320 that. It didn't RIP the backpack, but 513 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,160 the plastic part like the chair, it's got metal rods that go 514 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,960 together and they meet it plastic and that's the thing 515 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,080 that twists and stuff to. So it broke that and he ended up 516 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,480 having to like cut a log and put it under it at the right height 517 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,120 and then set the chair on top of it so the metal didn't slip off 518 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:12,240 the plastic. You know, you know what that 519 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,760 sounds like to me. What's that? 520 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000 That sounds to me like he needs to get him a Big Agnes chair 521 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,000 because everything's metal on the Big Agnes chair. 522 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,640 Just throwing that out there. Hey, that's not a bad idea. 523 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,120 He's you don't. Have you don't have plastic 524 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,800 pieces of brake when it's all metal? 525 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,720 Yeah, they just bend when trees fall on them. 526 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,160 Hey, but you've always been back. 527 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,720 That's true. You know, Matt, actually, he had 528 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,080 an extra metal piece with his chair. 529 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,400 I said, what are you doing with this dude? 530 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Is this a weapon or what? He had the tube off of one of 531 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,600 those Hyperlite or not Hyperlite. 532 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,720 What's the the chair? Zero. 533 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,080 What brand is that? Helenox. 534 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,520 Helenox So the sunset chair is the bigger version of the chair 535 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,680 0. So Matt he contacted them 536 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,600 because one of his aluminum rods that makes up the chair, it 537 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,600 broke. And so they said you have to buy 538 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,480 the whole new chair. The only thing they'll give you 539 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960 new is like the shock cord and the fabric. 540 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,560 I think you can buy everything else. 541 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,640 You have to just buy their new chair because they don't they 542 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,600 don't want they that's a money maker. 543 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,800 Would they rather send you a metal tube for 10 bucks or were 544 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,960 they? Would they rather make 100% 545 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,400 profit margin? Selling, I mean that they can 546 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,840 keep doing that. We'll just start talking about 547 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,320 other brands and get all the other outdoor Youtubers, start 548 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,360 talking about other brands and all of a sudden he'll knock 549 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,880 somebody like, oh, hey, you just needed that little $5 piece. 550 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,640 Sure, here you go. We're sorry. 551 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,600 Well, apparently. He went on Amazon and he figured 552 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,600 out the exact length, the exact thickness, and the material that 553 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,760 he needed to replace it with. And then he read on the shock 554 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,360 cord through the little tube. And so check this out. 555 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360 I have to point this out because I agree 100% with this comment. 556 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,560 The Big Agnes Skyline UL the best backpacking chair because 557 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120 it sits higher off the ground to make it easier to get in and out 558 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,920 of, and it's all metal so. That is a bonus. 559 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,920 And and the other thing that's great about that chair that is 560 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,560 not spoken of often is that the the way they angle the back legs 561 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,360 on it, it doesn't sink as much as the healing ox. 562 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,600 So just want to throw that out there. 563 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,000 While we're on chairs can can we pause the story for a second, do 564 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,560 a little side quest? Little chair can, absolutely. 565 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,240 So I was swapping through short porn video on either Facebook or 566 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,200 Instagram or X or something, I can't remember, maybe YouTube. 567 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,440 And it popped up an ad because your phone's always listening. 568 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,320 It popped up an ad and it was for a backpacking chair, but it 569 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,640 was from Teemu. And so I was like, I'm not going 570 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,120 to get the Teemu backpacking chair, but I thought maybe 571 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,760 there's a legit version of this. So have you seen a graphite? 572 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,040 The rods are graphite. I couldn't decide if this is the 573 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,000 worst decision or the best decision ever. 574 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,960 It's like this is super ultra light because the the rods that 575 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,440 make up the chair are made. No, not graphite, carbon fiber. 576 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,720 I'm sorry, carbon fiber. And I said carbon fiber. 577 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,440 My trekking poles are made out of carbon fiber and I snapped 578 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,120 one. And if somebody sits roughly in 579 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,640 this chair, isn't it just going to break? 580 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,560 Like I get that it's ultra light but. 581 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,880 Backpacking chairs flex, OK, Like carbon's not good at 582 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,320 flexing, like flexing breaks it. So I don't know man, I don't 583 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,360 think, I don't think I'll be buying that chair personally. 584 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,600 What do you guys think in the in the comments? 585 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,680 Would you buy a carbon fiber framed backpacking chair? 586 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,480 Yeah, I'm curious to see what y'all say. 587 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,480 Because I have yet to sit in any backpacking chair, at least any 588 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,640 kind of ultra light version of a of a backpacking chair that 589 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,240 doesn't flex and move a little bit. 590 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,680 Yeah, usually you sit in it and like where the fabric is, 591 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,960 everything sags towards you and like it flexes the. 592 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,840 Frame in yeah and we got a deep cut. 593 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,760 We got a deep cut in the comments Yeah. 594 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,600 The healing ox chair .5 sounds way better than the healing ox 595 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,200 chair L. Now for those who don't know 596 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,840 what he's talking about, this is old school like JK is hiking 597 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,720 video. I think I don't think I was with 598 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,480 John Kelly at that point. I think the channel was still 599 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,600 called JK is hiking. And I did a video where I found 600 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,560 where I had a healing notch chair zero. 601 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,240 It was a trip. I went with you and Ben McMillan 602 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,440 and Mr. backpacking with Jason and my chair snapped. 603 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,760 I was making bacon for you guys that morning and I went to sit 604 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,240 in my chair, tripped over a a a root and when I landed in the 605 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,920 chair it it just snapped the leg. 606 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:37,200 And so I took the fabric off of that, bought a chair one, put 607 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,520 them together, took a half a pound off the chair one and 608 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,280 added a half a pound to the chair 0. 609 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,840 Came out with the chair .5 and all I'm going to say is I used 610 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,080 that chair for years that now belongs to. 611 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,800 Jared Champion Jared. Champion. 612 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,040 Yeah, he owns that now. He won that last year or a 613 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,280 couple years ago, something like that. 614 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,720 So, but I used that chair for years. 615 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,640 That chair was fantastic. And I did a whole video just 616 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,000 talking about how they need to create this thing. 617 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,160 And then a year and a half, two years later, they finally create 618 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,760 the Chair 0L, which is based in the Chair 0. 619 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,680 Yeah, I did. SharePoint 5I should say. 620 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,680 I did do a little Google here while you're talking about the 621 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,000 carbon fiber backpacking chair and I see Dan Becker done a 622 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,320 video on a carbon fiber. Somebody else commented about 623 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,560 that, but. I can't remember watching the 624 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,000 video that's on backpackinglight.com. 625 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,320 They have like a a forum about it, but it was a. 626 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Weird chair. It was like 2 flat pieces that 627 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,880 that you you fit together. I remember the video. 628 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,960 It didn't look like a very comfortable chair to be honest. 629 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,720 Well, all I'm seeing is like when you know, Google's pops up 630 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,360 their sponsored products and it's like the shopping tab. 631 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,760 The first one's the Teemo 1 and it's $53 to get the carbon 632 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,040 fiber, but you can get one on Amazon. 633 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,880 It's HIBLE is the name of the brand Hibble Ibble. 634 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,920 I think it might be Hibble because it's only got 1B Hibble 635 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,280 Carbon fiber folding camping chair 50. 299 What's it? 636 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,840 Called HIBLE carbon fiber folding camping chair. 637 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,320 It looks like a chair 0 but it's the frame is carbon fiber. 638 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,560 So I don't know I just I was curious if you'd ever heard of 639 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,440 anything like that and if you would consider sitting in one 640 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,760 Cuz I'm gonna be honest I weigh about 225 right now probably 641 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:32,280 with clothes on and stuff. So it says it supports 265 but I 642 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,680 just don't trust it. I think there's here's the chair 643 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,960 right here. Oh, you pulled it up? 644 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,960 Yeah, I've got it up right now. It's 5299, which is cheaper than 645 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,600 a lot of other chairs. Yeah, it says it's carbon fiber. 646 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,920 It doesn't have a weight on this part. 647 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,440 Let me see if it's got a weight. It can hold people up to 265 648 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,520 lbs. It's £2 total on the last bullet 649 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,800 there about this item. Is it really? 650 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,360 You know it says compact and versatility. 651 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,960 It weighs about 2 lbs, but I wonder how far off the ground 652 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,880 you see it because it says it's 19 by 20 1/2 by 25. 653 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,480 Here's one by Ms. Nail. You know, that's got to be a 654 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,719 good company. Ms. Nail, like all one word. 655 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:21,239 So it's snail and there's weighs 1.6 lbs and it's carbon fiber. 656 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560 Yeah. So I mean, if it's not going to 657 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,440 be lighter, then why would you even make it? 658 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,560 Well, somebody's buying it though, because they've got 659 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,840 stars up here. They've got 27 people have have 660 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,320 taken this thing. I'm curious. 661 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,280 This is me, Jeremiah. I'm I'm what these people likes 662 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,679 to know. I want to know what the the the 663 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,760 one star said. Oh, let's read A1 star review. 664 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,239 I love. Got it OK I'm OK. 665 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,719 One star don't buy. I set it up in the living room 666 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,080 one time, set it for 15 minutes or so. 667 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,960 It was pretty comfortable. Took it on a hike a month later, 668 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,880 set it up, sat down and it broke. 669 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,560 I would have took pics but I was mad and didn't think about it. 670 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,600 Left it in the woods. Don't buy if you're over £200. 671 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,560 Well, First off, buddy, you just, you just littered this. 672 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,760 This guy obviously doesn't understand leaving a trace 673 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,240 because he left a trace and it's a cheap carbon fiber chair. 674 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520 So can. I give you one from the Hibble, 675 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:21,840 a short 10, please, please in all can let me see if I can go 676 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,760 back here and find it and I'll put it up on the screen too. 677 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,480 While you're talking about it, click the one star. 678 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,320 There's a couple of worn stars that somebody's left. 679 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,280 I'm not going to read the long one, that would take too long. 680 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,800 But the short 1 it says in all capital letters. 681 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:42,080 This is insanely tiny. There is no way this is made for 682 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,600 an adult, let alone going to hold an adult rated at 330 lbs. 683 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,240 First of all, it says 265 in the description. 684 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,800 It is a total joke. I am beyond angry getting this 685 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,920 and seeing how tiny this is. I noticed the folding chair my 686 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,520 neighbor's kid across the street have and it's larger than this 687 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,320 is. Immediately tore it back down 688 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,280 and threw it into the garbage pile. 689 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,280 This has to be a fake review, right? 690 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,920 It's got to because. I've got another one. 691 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,480 There's another one that says not sized for an adult. 692 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,200 I read the dimensions of this chair I should have. 693 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,400 I assumed since it said camping chair and didn't specify child 694 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,600 size that it would be sized for an adult. 695 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,880 It is not. It is very small. 696 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,920 I actually laughed when I had to put it together. 697 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,760 The chair sits super low to the ground. 698 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,720 I'm five 3 1/2 and it's way too low for me. 699 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,160 My knees sit too high. It's kind of like sitting in a 700 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,920 toddler chair, except unless you make an effort to sit upright 701 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,760 with nothing supporting your back, you were forced to sit at 702 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,840 it at an awkward recline angle if you lean your back up against 703 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,320 the back of the chair, man. They must have never sit in a 704 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,840 backpacking chair, whoever's writing these, because all those 705 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,480 little backpacking chairs, they only sit a few inches. 706 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,720 There's a notice that's smaller than it looks, apparently. 707 00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:57,280 Man, a lot of people don't like this chair. 708 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,960 This look I'm I I clicked on the video and the images that Amazon 709 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,160 gives you. There's a lot of convenient 710 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,120 angles that they're taking these from, but it looks like just a 711 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,520 regular backpacking chair. Maybe maybe. 712 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,280 I think I think these people just never sat in a backpack in 713 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,320 style chair and it's got a little pocket on the side. 714 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,040 I like that they should also a little pocket. 715 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,560 You know my my favorite feature on my big like it's a knockoff 716 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,160 Gopamount is the name of the brand. 717 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,200 It's some cheap Chinese dopamount Gopamount GOP. 718 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,480 Is that a Go Next? Is that a Go Next affiliate? 719 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,680 Yeah, it's. It's their twin company, sister, 720 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,160 sister company. So my favorite thing on there is 721 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,720 like there's a little, there's a little pouch, like if you're 722 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,400 sitting there, there's a pouch that's tucked up under the chair 723 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,160 where you're sitting and it's Velcroed and you can UN Velcro 724 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,800 it. And if it's a water bottle and a 725 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,640 cell phone, it's got two different like little pockets. 726 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,200 It's there and so it hangs down like if you're sitting there, 727 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,880 it's between your knees. And you can always have your 728 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,720 water and then whatever else. I usually put my phone in there, 729 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,320 but always keeps them out of the way. 730 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,440 And you can even tuck it under by using the Velcro. 731 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,920 Every chair should sew on a little side pocket somewhere. 732 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000 Absolutely. Here's between your legs or on 733 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,480 the side. Absolutely check this out, David 734 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,720 Cooper says. Leave No Trace says don't leave 735 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:23,240 your broken chair in the woods. OK, I got some. 736 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,880 Leave no trace for you, John. Leave me some trace. 737 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,480 OK. I'll wait one more. 738 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,920 There's one more that's that's great. 739 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,440 It says yes it does splinter. Getting a splinter of resin 740 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,320 infused carbon fiber is way worse than a wood splinter bro. 741 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,120 That would be terrible. Could you imagine getting a 742 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,800 splinter up your backside from a from a carbon fiber chair 743 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,400 breaking? Yeah, if you. 744 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,200 Oh, thank you. If you don't want to imagine it 745 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:51,520 and you want a little tease of what we're talking about here, 746 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:54,120 there's this Thief Muskers YouTube channel. 747 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,920 Have you heard of this Thief Busters? 748 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,880 No. Oh, dude, once, once we get done 749 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,240 with the shows today, you have to go check out this YouTube 750 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,000 channel, Thief Busters. So it's a couple guys. 751 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,720 I think it's either California or Florida. 752 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,400 I think maybe California though, and they set up these box, but 753 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,920 they rig them up so that when thieves steal them, it does 754 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,920 something to them. So I've seen them hook up like a 755 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,280 Taser to it so it shocks their hands. 756 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,320 I've seen them do a, you know how people will hide an airbag 757 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,920 under like a couch cushion, then they'll blow it off and then the 758 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,560 person go flying into the air. They've done that. 759 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,520 I've seen them put a Taser under the seat. 760 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,200 I've seen them do a spike. They do a spike that when you. 761 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,240 Oh, I've seen these guys before. I'm looking at the page right 762 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,000 now. I've seen this stuff is 763 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,600 hilarious. Bro they need a lawyer that what 764 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,120 they're doing cannot be legal. They put spikes when you sit on 765 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,200 the seat it does like 7 spikes and it's not only does it spike 766 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,680 your butt but it they also hooked up like a there's. 767 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,280 Nothing. Listen man, there's nothing 768 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,200 illegal with owning your own stuff. 769 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,760 Oh, well, that's true. There's nothing illegal about 770 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,640 what they're doing because the person doesn't get hurt if they 771 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,920 don't steal it. But these guys are hiding behind 772 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,960 a wall with a camera and yeah, the button whenever the person 773 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,080 steals the bike to shock them. And guess what? 774 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,800 That person's never going to do again. 775 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,360 Jeremiah. Hopefully steal if you stole 776 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,840 after taking one of those spikes. 777 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,280 Sometimes they break out a measuring tape and they're like 778 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,240 this is what you just got in the backside and it would be like 7 779 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,080 inch spike rod. Dude. 780 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,040 I'm like, there's no way this is legal. 781 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,360 Yeah, but I love it. I love it. 782 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,320 I digress. I'm. 783 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,920 I'm here for it. Back to the Leave no trace so. 784 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,280 All of that to go to Leave no trace. 785 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,040 Back to Leave No Trace. Yeah, we've completed the side 786 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,840 quest, folks. We're back to the story. 787 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,240 So. That sounds even worse than go 788 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,680 next. Gopam out. 789 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,480 So I'll tell you ma'am, we we had a great time. 790 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,760 Friday we hung out all chilled and then Saturday was the big 791 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,000 day. Friday was a mile and 1/2 from 792 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,880 the vehicle after shuttling them to the campsite. 793 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,320 And then we're kind of undecided where we wanted to sleep at 794 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,600 Saturday because we wanted to go on a little exploration mission, 795 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200 if you will. But one of the issues that you 796 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,920 run into, and I love all these guys, is anytime you have a big 797 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,520 group of people doing anything. I don't care if it's hiking, I 798 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,960 don't care if it's driving somewhere, I don't care if it's 799 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,520 getting on amusement park rides, whatever it is. 800 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,840 Big groups are slow. If you want to go fast, go by 801 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,080 yourself. If you want to go slow but have 802 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,360 a lot of fun, take a lot of friends. 803 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,440 So getting everybody to get packed up. 804 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,120 Usually I'm last so I'm complaining about myself. 805 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,360 Waiting on a. Stringer waiting on a Stringer. 806 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:53,720 So string daddy, that's right. So we take off finally and our 807 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:57,560 first mission objective is to find Kentucky's largest Poplar 808 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,560 tree happens to be located in Macquarie County, Kentucky in 809 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,360 Beaver Creek Wilderness. And I know this because Smokey 810 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,600 bees natural Nick. Yeah. 811 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,160 And let's see what what is his YouTube channel? 812 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,680 It's like bluegrass Sam. Yes, Sam, but I don't know his 813 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:20,000 handle on YouTube Bluegrass. It's like bluegrass Backcountry 814 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,440 or something like that on. Music or something like that. 815 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,960 He he does music on his channel. Too. 816 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,240 Yeah, he does music too. So anyway, they found this 817 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,560 biggest Poplar tree in Kentucky, and it's this massive tree. 818 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,960 And the reason why it's so big is because when they logged out 819 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,120 that area, it was impossible to get to with their equipment and 820 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,680 all that, so they couldn't drag it out there. 821 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,360 So they just left it. And it's been growing ever 822 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,400 since. And I messaged Nick and I said, 823 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,760 hey, I want to find this popular tree. 824 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,760 And he sent me the coordinates, he sent me his video clip, he 825 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,040 sent me screenshots of the map, he sent me directions. 826 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,680 And all of that was for nothing because we reached the turn off, 827 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:05,640 which was probably 3 miles from our campsite on that one. 828 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,000 We reached that at like 2:30 in the afternoon and I was like 3. 829 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,520 Miles. Bro, I said if we start walking 830 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,920 out of this campsite, what our goal was to leave the campsite 831 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,080 at like 9:30 to 10:30, something like we probably walked out 832 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,520 there about 11:00. We move slow, bro. 833 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,640 We have a lot of fun, but we move slow. 834 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,960 So we reached this turn off and we decided to eat lunch there 835 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,160 and it is off trail. And when I say this is a 836 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,920 wilderness area, what I mean by that is there's no official 837 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,800 trails. There's some people that have 838 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,680 come through 40 years ago or 20 years ago and took a little 839 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,640 hatchet and notched a place in some of the trees to sort of 840 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,920 lead you on a trail. But really, what you're doing is 841 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,080 falling the Creek until you get to where you want to be. 842 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,600 Yeah, you basically, you basically got game trails that 843 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,080 kind of turn into walking trails at some point, yeah. 844 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:01,680 Exactly. And the problem with that is, is 845 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,640 that not only do you lose the trail all the time, but those 846 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,160 same trees that fell into the campsite from the ice trails. 847 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,680 Yep, all that same situation is on the trail. 848 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,560 So I literally at some points was saying, hey, Rich, can I 849 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,040 borrow your saw? And I was having to saw 850 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,080 different either stuff that had failed that was blow downs, or 851 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,840 sometimes it was just overgrown from roadies, you know, 852 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,360 rhododendrons reclaiming the trail basically. 853 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,520 And those just grab you. Oh yeah, they do. 854 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,520 Long story short, it would have taken too long to take that off 855 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,480 trail to find the Poplar, so we decided to abort mission and 856 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,560 hike on to our next campsite. And so we we decide to go 857 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,400 through what's called the Eye of the Needle. 858 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,000 You got to take. OK, I just have to know. 859 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,840 OK, OK, I have to know. So you'd hike 3 miles? 860 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,880 Would hike 3. Miles at 2:30, At 2:30 PM we 861 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,320 ate. What time did you start hiking? 862 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,800 I don't know, maybe 10:30, 11-30, something like that. 863 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,880 It was one mile. My watch. 864 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,600 I was like. 4 hours and you hiked 3 miles. 865 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,720 I said, boys, we've been walking four hours and 40 minutes today 866 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:18,160 and we've walked 5.1 miles, bro, you can't not only I'm, I'm not 867 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,640 being hyperbolic here. We were these trails, trails if 868 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,800 you will, that we were walking on was basically the side of a 869 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,640 hill. My ankles and even like the 870 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,360 inside part where my knees are was so sore. 871 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,560 Like the next day I woke up and I thought I was going to cramp 872 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,480 up. It was tough. 873 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,800 Plus my backpack was probably 3540 lbs, you know, So I'm, I'm, 874 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,200 I was thinking, well, this whole trip is 10 miles in three days. 875 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,520 I can bring whatever I want, but it's a great idea when you're 876 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,080 packing your backpack. It's not so great whenever 877 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,280 you're walking for the fourth mile on a hill at a 40° incline 878 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,000 and you're like, I'm glad I got these two trekking poles. 879 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,240 So in some parts you just like walk through the Creek. 880 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,800 The Creek was 50°. It was cold so we reached the 881 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:12,800 campsite and me and Buckley decided this is wilderness area. 882 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,440 We're in a a section at our campsite. 883 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,120 Nobody's ever camped there before. 884 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,600 If they have there's no like established campsite. 885 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,720 So we built a fire ring there. Wilderness area and there is 886 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:27,440 some huge flat rocks down around the Creek area. 887 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,240 And I get 1 and I should have sent you a picture of it, but I 888 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:33,720 didn't. Let's see. 889 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:36,280 What would you say? 3 foot by two foot rock. 890 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,920 This was a big rock. So Buckley and I big Flat Rock 891 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,560 from the Creek bed. We pounded some sticks into the 892 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,400 ground. I kind of some big old clubs to 893 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,240 use as a hammer. We pounded some sticks in the 894 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,760 ground real deep and set that rock on top of it and made 895 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,200 ourselves a little table. I'll send you some pictures. 896 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,400 Oh, sorry. After this. 897 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,400 And you can kind of get a taste of what size it was. 898 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,640 But fantastic, I think that table's going to be there for at 899 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,440 least the next year or so until my shoddy handiwork let's it 900 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,560 fall over. 35 to 40 LB pack. What's that, say, 15 to 20 lbs 901 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,880 was chocolate? Well, you're not wrong because I 902 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,800 brought dessert for everybody. Yeah, I knew you would. 903 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,480 Yeah. I did. 904 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:27,520 I brought the biggest Reese's chocolate bar you can get and I 905 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:33,160 got and it had 15 pieces in it. John and I said it's not one. 906 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,160 Everybody gets one piece and so I gave everybody one piece of 907 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,640 the 15. You know how many of that left 908 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,320 me? A lot. 6 that left. 909 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,880 That left. Me a lot. 910 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,920 Now I say so you could. Have given everybody 2 is what 911 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,880 you're saying. Well, I couldn't give everybody 912 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:48,920 two. There was nine people. 913 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,080 Oh, that's right. There were nine. 914 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,080 Yeah, somebody. And you know, I'll just take a 915 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,440 hit for the team, man. Sometimes you got to fall on the 916 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,520 sword and eat the six pieces of chocolate so ever. 917 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,600 So it's, it's fair. And everybody even. 918 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,560 And I know how much you hate chocolate. 919 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,760 I mean, I was crying. I was suffering through this 920 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,160 recent juggling bar. Man, thank you, thank you, thank 921 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,080 you for your service, Jeremy. You're welcome. 922 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,080 That's what everybody was telling. 923 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,080 Me. Thank you string Daddy. 924 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,520 You're welcome. So Saturday night I brought a 925 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,520 Mr. Good bar even bigger, 25 pieces. 926 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,840 I said, boys, you're eating high on the Hawk tonight. 927 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:29,960 Everybody gets 2 pieces. So that meant everybody gets 2 928 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,680 pieces and there's 8 of them, which leaves me with 9 pieces. 929 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,160 I was going to say that's nine pieces leftover. 930 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,840 So I got the upgrade on that one. 931 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,880 I say probably one of the highlights of this trip was 932 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,920 whenever we got to Campsite 2, I had, I don't remember what what 933 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,440 we were doing. I think I went down to the Creek 934 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,120 and was refilling modern stuff. People are doing different camp 935 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,760 chores. Some people are gathering wood, 936 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,040 some people are building a fire ring. 937 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,520 Some people were setting their stuff up, you know, blah, blah, 938 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,280 blah. So we've been hanging the saw on 939 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,960 a tree near the fire pit. And I walked back over there and 940 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,200 I was like, so what's the deal with the saw? 941 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,040 Actually, this had happened on night 1. 942 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,080 It gets better. Night one, I walk up and the saw 943 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,720 was missing about an inch and a half off of the the tip of it. 944 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,360 And I said, Jason, is this your saw? 945 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,720 And he's like, Yep. Because to to flashback like a 946 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:27,680 year or two ago, I had broken Jason's saw and I had given him 947 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,680 a replacement blade for it, one of the Gone Boy blades. 948 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,400 Right, right, right. And he put it on 2 trips ago. 949 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,360 This was the third trip and I said what happened bro? 950 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,080 He's like we don't know. We still do not know. 951 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,360 So somebody broke it and didn't fess up to it. 952 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,480 Well, that we a limp. We started doing trail court. 953 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,360 You remember last week in our episode We. 954 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,480 Yeah, we did trail court. Yeah, yeah. 955 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,640 Well, I said, guess what? The jury's in, boys. 956 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,080 We started going through and I said it couldn't be me, Jonathan 957 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,440 or Matt because we got here after everybody and you already 958 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,240 had a fire built and this was already broke. 959 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,200 So that eliminates some of the suspects. 960 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,560 And then I was, I was thinking, Jason, you're not going to break 961 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,120 your own saw. But on second thought, he might 962 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,720 have and not come clean about it and try to blame it on somebody 963 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,920 else. I don't think so, but maybe. 964 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,920 So we we got it down to Derwin or Scott. 965 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,480 And I don't think you've met Scott. 966 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,000 Blue Star is what we call him. It's either one of those two. 967 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,840 And Derwin is taking responsibility for it, but not 968 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,680 credit for it. So I don't know really what that 969 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,040 might be. A moral victory thing. 970 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,640 I don't think he's going to spend the money to send the new 971 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,360 saw blade. But what makes it better is 972 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,320 whenever we got ready, I got ready to build my little table 973 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,480 at campsite #2 I said I'm going to have to borrow one of these 974 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,240 saws, boys. I said, let's see. 975 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,760 I open Rich saw, Riches saw, and I open Jason's saw, and Jason's 976 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,120 saw was longer. See, Riches is broke too. 977 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,640 It wasn't broken on this street. It was. 978 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,400 Broken before those things break so easy. 979 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,920 I had one that was broken for a while. 980 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,840 Yeah, and I have one over here that's broken. 981 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:12,880 Actually, I've broken three of them, so Rich I measure them. 982 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,840 And Riches and Jasons were almost exactly the same. 983 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,080 Jason had it just by smidge. I said, Jason, you won this one, 984 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,760 Rich. You almost tied for first. 985 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,560 And so I started sawing. I started sawing snap. 986 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,440 Everybody but me is sitting around the campfire and 987 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,560 everybody hears the snap and looks over and what's happening. 988 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:35,920 I broke another two inches off of Jason's saw and I said, I 989 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,800 said I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And I said it's not that bad. 990 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,600 It's not that bad. And I finished sawing like the 991 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,760 underside of it and I got the little blade out and it was a 2 992 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,920 inches broken off. And I tossed it, you know, on 993 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,520 one of the rocks at the fire pit and everybody's looking at it 994 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,840 and they're like, Oh my gosh. I said, well, I'm sorry, boys. 995 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,000 I folded it back up and I said, Rich, you're now the winner. 996 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,680 I grabbed his saw. I opened that sucker up. 997 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,440 I went back over there. I kept sawing 1. 998 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,600 Snap his, did you? I didn't snap his so I guess 999 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,520 technically I've broken four of them because I broke 2 adjacent, 1000 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,560 but one of his is already broken so I think that's three and a 1001 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,040 half. No, you still broke it. 1002 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,720 Oh, OK, we'll count that as. Two inches is a lot. 1003 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,560 I mean, that's a big section off of the saw. 1004 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,320 Yeah, the whole saw is like 8. Inches or so I was gonna say. 1005 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,160 That's like 1/4 of the of the whole saw. 1006 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,880 Yeah, so you maybe had 2/3 of a saw left, but oh man, we, we 1007 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,640 hung out the rest of that night. Woke up the next morning and 1008 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,440 Buckley and Derwin had about, I don't know, an 8 hour drive 1009 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,200 ahead of them. So they, they rolled out pretty 1010 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,320 early and then the rest of the crew rode out about 11:00 and I 1011 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,680 think most of them went to Cracker Barrel. 1012 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,600 I went home because I ain't got to hang out with Bridget and the 1013 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,480 baby all weekend. But man, what a trip. 1014 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,960 A lot of fun, laughs, a lot of great people, a lot of people. 1015 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,760 It was fun. That's most people I've been on 1016 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,840 a trip with since probably the meet up, you know? 1017 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,840 Yeah, I was going to say the most I've been on where was 1018 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,600 actually a backpacking trip was 12. 1019 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,400 It's tough to find the spot for everybody to set up whenever you 1020 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,080 got 12. Yeah, exactly. 1021 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,000 You know, Brian Winburn's on here right now. 1022 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,480 If you want to talk about somebody with a manly saw, Brian 1023 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,840 Winburn has the saw. Oh, he's got the Cortana does. 1024 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,880 He's got the Cortana, he's got that beast of assault they use 1025 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,640 on a live so or alone, I'm sorry, alone so. 1026 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,800 Let let me add one more thing on the SAW situation at it. 1027 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:35,040 Luckily, for some reason, I don't know why, I was standing 1028 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,440 between deadfall that was going to fall toward where the fire 1029 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,360 pit was. It was a massive tree that was 1030 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,440 just literally hanging there by thread, barely. 1031 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,280 And I said we cannot sit over here. 1032 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,200 If y'all want to put the fire pit over here, we got to do 1033 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,040 something about this tree. We can't just be sitting over 1034 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,920 here. And then Buckley has the same 1035 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,320 situation but a small tree over by his hammock and he's got 1036 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,960 everything set up. So I Jonathan what all trails, 1037 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:07,240 for some reason, he goes over to the tree and starts like playing 1038 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:10,680 with the one that's massive and is going to fall toward the fire 1039 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,320 pit. If it falls, What I'm like, 1040 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,160 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Everybody's like stop, stop, 1041 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,080 stop. And then I say let me grab my 1042 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,360 stuff because I'd witnessed the day before the tree falling on 1043 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,120 his back, right, right. So I've already been 1044 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,920 traumatized. He's already indicted himself on 1045 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,440 this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1046 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,960 So I've moved my chair and all my stuff out of the way, and he 1047 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,080 goes over there and you start yanking on the tree and then it 1048 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,440 literally falls straight down and like, sticks into the 1049 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,000 ground. So now it's not going anywhere. 1050 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:40,280 Now simultaneously, everybody's watching them except for there's 1051 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,760 a small group of people over at Buckley's Hammock, and he's 1052 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,240 doing the same thing. He's like choking the life out 1053 00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:47,280 of this tree. And it's, it's dead. 1054 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,640 And it's like the top of it, you know, the top gets a little 1055 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,080 tippy. And yeah, yeah, yeah, the top 1056 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,760 part of this tree breaks off and goes directly on top of his 1057 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,600 setup. Hammock lands on the beetle 1058 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,600 buckle. And we're at this point, like 2 1059 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,600 1/2, three miles from the vehicle. 1060 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,480 So even if he has to bail and this is around dark time, he's 1061 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,520 going to walk out in the dark. And then he has Rich, who rode 1062 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,720 with him from West Virginia. Like Buckley came from 1063 00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:14,280 Pennsylvania and then he went down to West Virginia or either 1064 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,680 met him or went down to West Virginia and picked him up and 1065 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,080 then met Derwin. And I don't know how in the 1066 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,120 world, but his hammock survived. No holes. 1067 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,000 It didn't destroy the suspension. 1068 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,880 It literally I watched them both at the same time and I was the 1069 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,520 only one that witnessed both of these because I was thinking I 1070 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,520 got to get away from both these groups of people. 1071 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,760 There's trees falling out of the sky and I'm the only one that 1072 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,480 doesn't want to be anywhere near them. 1073 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,320 And because you couldn't get away, bro, I waited to set up my 1074 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,960 hammock until, like, I don't know, 9:00 the second night 1075 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,920 because there's so many trees getting pushed over throughout 1076 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,960 the campsite. I said I cannot afford one of 1077 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,720 these falling on my hammock and me having to hike out tonight. 1078 00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:57,920 I wouldn't have any place to sleep. 1079 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:00,200 But yeah, that was my little tag there. 1080 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,560 Buckley pushed that tree over on his own hammock. 1081 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,520 Thank God it is his own hammock. No kid, he'd have done that on 1082 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,800 my hammock. We might have had a problem. 1083 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,720 Yep. Well, he said he he brought a 1084 00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:14,680 new golden umbrella. I think I told you that on the 1085 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,040 last trip Buckley and I were on together, he broke my umbrella. 1086 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,400 So he gave me his. And so he had a replacement and 1087 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,080 he's like, I got to stop breaking stuff. 1088 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,000 Somehow his hammock survived that, that tree falling on it. 1089 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,720 So we had a couple casualties. I did lose something too, just a 1090 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,080 little attachment that I used for my chair. 1091 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,960 I think everybody either broke something or lost something. 1092 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,040 But it's backpacking. It happens. 1093 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,400 Yep, and we got to get the word out to to Ben McMillan got his 1094 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,280 first hammock set up from Dutch Ware. 1095 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,320 I don't know if you saw this online, but if you get a get a 1096 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:50,520 chance go check it out or the hilltop packs social media 1097 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,400 platforms because he definitely has a hammock now. 1098 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,880 And no joke, Phil Collins is on the winner cover of his hammock 1099 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,520 so Oh. My good is that the he said the 1100 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,920 view from laying in my hammock. Yes, yes, I saw that bro, I said 1101 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,320 Oh my goodness, what is going on here? 1102 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,160 And then I don't. Know why? 1103 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,280 I don't know why he loves Phil Collins so much, but apparently 1104 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,880 Ben loves him some Phil Collins. So yeah, Jeremiah, last question 1105 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,720 before we go off the air. OK, go ahead. 1106 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,840 Simple answer, yes or no? Did you win the game? 1107 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,280 I won the game, man, I. Had the case. 1108 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,920 I had to poop so bad on the way out. 1109 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,000 I said I'm going to try to. I'm going to try to wait till we 1110 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,360 get to the car. And then we got to the car and 1111 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,160 there's no bathroom and I had to shuttle back to my truck and 1112 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,000 then I had to drive home. I somehow made it. 1113 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,920 I kissed my wife. Wait. 1114 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,400 You ain't poop until you got home. 1115 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:45,240 That's right bro, from from Friday at lunch to Sunday at 1116 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:50,720 maybe 1:00. Wow, I'm gonna keep this. 1117 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,240 Props for that. That's impressive. 1118 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,640 It's quite unbelievable. That's that, that's impressive. 1119 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,680 That's all I must say that is highly, highly impressive. 1120 00:57:58,680 --> 00:57:59,280 It's. Poop time. 1121 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,920 Well, with that said, thank you guys for tuning in to the 1122 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,120 Backpacking Podcast live stream. Unfortunately, this is our last 1123 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,760 one until two weeks from today, so we will catch you on the next 1124 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,120 one. Happy April 1st and we'll see 1125 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:13,640 you next time.