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What's going on everybody? 
Welcome to the backpacking 

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podcast as always John Kelly is 
here with Jeremih Stringer. 

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The man whose face makes this 
thing, look a whole lot better 

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as we had to stare. 
At me the whole time she went 

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out immediately. 
Well luckily since his pockets 

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they don't have to look at 
either of us, if they don't want

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to, this is true, this is true. 
All you're only seeing it if 

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you're on YouTube. 
So I had this little idea and it

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could be a terrible idea. 
So it is 100% possible that 

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nobody has ever heard this but 
me and John but if you're 

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listening right now I must have 
thought it was okay enough to 

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actually follow through. 
So here goes we have these live 

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streams on Monday nights and 
typically we take a little break

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around the holiday season gets 
really busy around Christmas New

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Year's and then we hop back in 
normally end of January, 

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beginning of February somewhere 
in there and do the live streams

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and I thought Since we're not 
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haven't been for a little while,
it would be fun to just go 

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through and laughs have a good 
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Give her opinions, elaborate 
some on some of the comments 

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that you guys you leave on 
YouTube now John and I we answer

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all these comments and we have 
our own YouTube channel. 

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We try to November was a fail 
for me. 

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So if you come in in November, 
hopefully by the time you hear 

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hear, Miss your, you got 
responded to throw that out 

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there. 
So I was like, oh no worries. 

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So we both have these YouTube 
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to text each other. 
These ridiculous comments that 

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we get, like, let me read one. 
Let me, I thought it'd be fun to

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just go through on this episode.
We could read to them. 

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I've got one that's really bad. 
Okay, so that I'm waiting till 

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you read yours. 
This comment is from my YouTube 

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channel. 
Share my Stringer hikes. 

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Jada this is from That's versus 
name is Darkness exposed. 

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Okay. 
Darkness explode, love this 

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comment by the way, I absolutely
loved his comment and you know, 

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I don't know who this person is 
Ivan. 

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Look at their none of these 
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I don't know. 
I would assume. 

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I don't know. 
Most of them. 

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The ones that we're going to 
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I do know. 
Some people, I've met in person 

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of hung out. 
We've had a great time and 

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actually went back and said 
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But most of the comments you 
get, you don't actually know the

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people and a lot of the time 
it's Anonymous and if you're if 

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you're somebody that watches 
YouTube I'm not telling you 

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anything new because you all 
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these people can say whatever 
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You don't know who they are. 
And you know, in the name of 

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anonymity. 
You can literally just say 

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anything you want, you can you 
can we make this content and 

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people can say anything they 
want about it. 

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Give their opinion, they can 
insult you. 

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They could tell you how ugly I 
stupid, how dumb your content is

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what you look like. 
They can insult you all that 

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this person Darkness exposed. 
I don't know what their real 

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name is. 
Just people who like camping and

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Hiking are fools. 
They like taking unnecessary 

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Chances with situations, which 
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thrill-seekers who've got a 
death wish, and don't know how 

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to be still now, I will credit 
Darkness exposed grammar because

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it's very well written. 
Yes, I would 100% agree with you

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on that. 
A lot of the comments. 

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A lot of the bad ones that we 
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And you can just tell you're 
like what is what is the deal 

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with this person? 
Yes like they're obviously 

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uneducated or very poor. 
Trotting spelling grammar Etc 

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and it feels like their thoughts
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They definitely not considered 
any other counter argument. 

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But I just, I just responded 
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the time. 
The best response you can have 

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for that. 
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it's a bad comment, I just 
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You know, I don't give it to 
the, you know, even a thought. 

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Yeah. 
You don't want to take up your 

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time with negativity and dealing
with people that you're never 

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going to meet in real life, 
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And they shouldn't really affect
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Yeah. 
So buddy. 

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Way that that's just an example 
of a funny comment that I 

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thought you know, I could share 
but what we want to do is talk 

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about some comments from the 
backpack and pocket, some good 

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and some bad, and some funny and
some that are just questions 

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that we could elaborate and 
answer could be gear questions. 

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It could be personal questions, 
could be anything, but John, you

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got one too. 
So we do live streams. 

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Yeah, we do them all the time. 
We do, basically we doing from 

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January through May, and then we
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doing every year. 
Here and we do now since 2020, 

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we started doing those in the 
fall 2020. 

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Yeah. 
So we've been doing it for over 

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two years, and we've become 
known as the question that 

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always comes up at the end of 
our live streams is, do you have

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a good group story? 
Yeah, and so we got this comment

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from someone named Fern walked 
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Real burn, Lon Fern Wog. 
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interesting night, but it was 
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pooping pod. 
Now, the reason I'm putting that

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either. 
Because somebody we talked about

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some different gear things in 
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back in November, Jeff 
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were talking about at the time, 
but Jeff Cheeseman makes this 

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comment. 
Watch the series Spartacus and 

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they show public Trappers that a
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bathroom with a mop to wipe your
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Whoa, what what, why? 
That's I feel like we're in a 

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public place talking about this,
but Like like what in the world 

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like that? 
I'm glad I'm not Roman or wasn't

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coming back. 
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think to do with that nowadays, 
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Spartacus. 
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the comments, you break up some,
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Let's hear your next one. 
Okay, I'm just scrolling through

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here. so John, we had a We had a
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I think maybe you're on the 
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guest co-host. 
I was supposed to be on the 

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Foothills Trail. 
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So, in that episode, I don't 
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I'm pretty sure that we've got 
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Yes guy, yes, did you see? 
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Okay, so this oh my goodness. 
This is also from firm. 

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Vlog isn't really another 
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Well, perfect. 
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around here because it says, I 
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says that Hansen's, which is a 
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Gorge. 
John absolutely loves it is. 

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My happy place. 
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Hanson's during the perseid 
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brother and I were toward the 
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were down at Tip of the point. 
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I was cooking or something, and 
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go Look at that. 
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in quotes super hyped up. 
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was a fireball and now it's an 
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fireball. 
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this Fireball situation from 
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I don't know if you've seen any 
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Yes, this is a real phenomenon 
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it's like every so many years. 
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Belt that some people. 
And if you want to quote me on 

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this, you need to go watch 
Ancient Ancient Aliens. 

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Ancient apocalypse Jibber 
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Aliens, I love ancient aliens. 
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it's funny. 
So Ancient Aliens. 

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That's on History Channel, 
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Let me tell you that. 
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really believes that aliens 
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Yes, yeah. 
That guy's great. 

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Okay, dude, let's talk about 
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Just saying. 
We'll get back to the car. 

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Okay. 
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Okay. 
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downloading things that are 
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ancient aliens, that kind of 
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I already Universe shows like 
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whenever I go back bagging will 
hammock camp and I'll bring my 

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hangtime hook. 
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Yeah. 
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my Ridgeline and I put my phone 
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and watch those kind of shows. 
Are you serious? 

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I always Dude, sometimes I'll 
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phone like trick video and I 
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downloaded so many things from 
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watch them on trail. 
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different documentaries and that
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hand. 
A chain is really good. 

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Me, that's hilarious. 
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say is Graham Hancock and you 
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clue. 
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Graham Hancock. 
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What's people that 
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an archaeologist but like 
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Jones. 
He's gonna be cool. 

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Yes. 
Okay, so some people think he's 

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crazy. 
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is crazy. 
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won't be a waste of time. 
It's entertainment, right? 

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Okay. 
Just talk to us, talk to us. 

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Okay? 
Always second-guess myself here.

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So Graham Hancock, he's an 
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people discredit his beliefs. 
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narrative on archaeology that 
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went through school, like you 
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out here, digging stuff up and 
write like procuring history on 

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this and then you Graham Hancock
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Then you call it, cancel 
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Well, people archaeologist 
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Yes, they would want to 
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Now, I don't know who's right or
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I'm not arguing. 
I'm just telling you situation. 

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So they will discredit the 
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there's evidence that supports 
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So thinking, and I think we live
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Finding new evidence of things 
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the mainstream Narrative of it 
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ever been. 
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I mean that transcends, all 
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right now. 
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would want to, you know, you 
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stuff that you learn in school 
and that you are out working to 

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support that field, right? 
If he's coming along and trying 

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to destroy that because it so he
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of people, I'm sure if seen it 
because it was in like the top 

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10 on the TV shows for a while. 
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apocalypse again. 
The basics is archaeology 

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timelines a little bit wrong. 
There was nature apocalypse. 

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There may have been very 
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savvy people, that lived 
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They got wiped out in this 
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Like, I don't know, 10, 12, 13, 
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And then we kind of had to 
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traveled around Taught some of 
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those kind of people Agriculture
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that would have taken them a 
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And the reason that those people
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hunters and gatherers and stuff 
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people that would survive if we 
had an apocalypse today, right? 

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You know right. 
If I don't have the survival 

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skills to care for myself and to
help myself survived, then I'm 

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either going to have to learn 
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die. 
All right, so apparently Gently,

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he thinks that some of these 
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technological advances found, 
some of these hunter-gatherers, 

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they help them survive in 
exchange. 

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They help them technologically. 
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So anyway, the whole point of 
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point of all this. 
I don't know where we're going. 

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The whole point of this is on 
the show. 

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Let's show this mini series on 
Netflix. 

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He talks about how every so 
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Sorry Bill. 
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really an asteroid belt though. 
It's like some some stuff that 

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he thinks that could have caused
this apocalypse. 

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Okay? 
Quote, unquote, apocalypse 1015,

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thousand years ago and we travel
through it and that wiped out a 

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bunch of people and create these
massive floods and stuff. 

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Okay. 
In the Fireballs are coming from

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that that we travel through 
every so So often. 

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So what Jason was seeing out on 
that point and what weren't 

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hawk? 
Or whatever his name first Vlog 

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Vlog? 
Yeah. 

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What a bad. 
I know. 

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It's a good thing. 
I love about their actual name 

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is so burn. 
Log shout out to you. 

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You get to the double comments 
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what it was. 
You got another good one? 

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Yeah. 
The knife and fan. 

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Left us a message. 
Okay, I don't know what an eye 

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pin fan is, but we have the 
knife and fan and he said, well,

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this is going back to when we 
had Jesse on Jesse Manti. 

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Yeah, show. 
And he was talking about grizzly

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bears and he referred to them as
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backcountry. 
Oh, yeah. 

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And we got a lot of live 
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was, it was after the video is 
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It says, bumblebees of the back 
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a quick sting name, all your 
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Little bumblebees. 
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Jesse on that comment on the 
Bumblebee. 

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Oh yeah, yeah and here's another
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this is from. 
Holy cow. 

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I'm gonna take my glasses off 
for this one, to read it. 

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Okay? 
Chris women whore, stir my 

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sister. 
That's the username Chris ribbon

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horse term. 
I stir. 

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We're sounds like a Monty 
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Question wasn't an African 
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LOL. 
Also, how dare you steal your 

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children's candy? 
Ha, ha. 

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Buckets of candy? 
Every Halloween. 

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I turned out fine. 
LOL? 

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Well I love the key. 
Oh yes, we were talking about 

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Halloween and how like my kids 
can't eat. 

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There's so little if they eat 
that my son literally last week 

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ate too much candy. 
I threw up in And his bed. 

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Oh my God, last week, but you 
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Oh, he's just a skate. 
These kids nowadays, their 

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classes. 
They come home from school with 

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like buckets of candy and gifts.
And all it's crazy dude. 

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So he he snuck some candy and 
eat too much one night. 

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Threw up in his bed. 
And so I was making the comment 

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during the video during that 
live stream that I don't let the

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kids eat all the candy because 
it does make them sick. 

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we get some of that candy you've
sucked. 

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Kids game called apparent. 
Yes, really. 

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You know, it's really funny. 
What's really funny is when I 

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open like my kids have a little 
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or something like that, and I 
open them Tego basically a 

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parent tax. 
I'm like, yep. 

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Now, pull one out, eat it. 
Dad tax is what I call it. 

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That's parenting 101. 
Yeah. 

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So my kids are cool with it. 
I'm so glad that we had this 

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conversation today because 
you're having kids in a few 

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years. 
Maybe I won't ever I have kids. 

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Yeah, I could parent tax, 
everything, all dad, Taxman dad 

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tax, the crap out of that stuff,
you know? 

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No. 
I'm a teacher and I'm always so 

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jealous of the elementary. 
My wife, she does. 

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She's had an elementary school. 
She's a teacher as well and she 

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always brings home. 
All these gifts, dude, we went 

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to Starbucks a couple of days 
ago. 

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Yes one of her gift card. 
She has 15 dollar gift card to 

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Starbucks and this is not the 
only one, you know, how many 

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Starbucks gift cards that myself
got for Christmas. 

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Zero that's not right man. 
Is it is it because she's better

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teacher than I am? 
Or is it because every 

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Elementary School teacher gets 
all these gifts in the high 

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school theater or something? 
You know what here's the thing. 

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Elementary school kids love 
their teachers. 

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Yeah high school kids act like 
they love their teachers. 

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Get good grades but really could
care less. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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They just care less. 
Yeah, makes me sad but I know 

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what jokes on those kids because
I use some of my wife's $15 

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Starbucks card and got myself a 
coffee. 

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She knew about it. 
That's right, that's right. 

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You're married. 
It's yours. 

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It's yours and hers. 
That's right. 

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I heard probably who one flesh. 
So, therefore hers is yours 

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right? 
That's right. 

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That works at legally. 
Yes. 

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But realistically. 
No in the house, all that and 

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absolutely not. 
I got I got here at Jeremiah 

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never looked better. 
It must be a go next issue. 

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Well, you know, my hair styling 
profile and today, she's that go

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decks hair gel filled. 
His eyes were for people who are

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listening or tuning in for the 
first time ever. 

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This is like a two year old 
joke. 

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Yeah. 
The government I went on a 

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backpacking trip. 
It was Jeremiah Jason. 

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They went with the shield 
brothers. 

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Another really good podcast but 
they went out backpacking and 

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Jeremiah had this backpack from 
a company called go necks. 

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Yeah, I know and they sell a lot
more stuff than backpacking. 

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Yeah. 
But Jeremiah or this go next 

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backpack and never lived it 
down. 

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So you are so you are a beginner
Backpacker. 

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Yes. 
And So I wasn't beginning 

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Backpacker. 
I was a beginner YouTuber, I 

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don't even know if I was anybody
here into it. 

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At that point. 
I still think I'm a beginner 

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YouTube, even though it's been a
few years. 

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It's working on Five Years, bro.
Yeah, I don't know, takes a long

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time to get good at stuff, but 
in my case, it'll never happen, 

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I'll get out of here. 
So I was with the Shields and I 

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decide to take this backpack 
because, you know, these 

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companies always offered a sin. 
You stuff. 

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But they always want a video or 
something in exchange and I was 

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trying out this backpack but 
now, after being in the YouTube 

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game for a while, I don't make 
any guarantees when it comes to 

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products, right? 
Let's it's like something like, 

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if it's something that I'm 
really wanting like a really 

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nice tent or something like 
that, then I will do it. 

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I'll do a video in exchange for 
product but that cheap like 

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Chinese knockoff stuff. 
I'm not a bad. 

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It no no you don't like it. 
I'm going next. 

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Okay, we talked a lot the past 
couple weeks about the winter 

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and the winter backpacking. 
In the cold weather can begin 

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all. 
Okay. 

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And we were talking about the 
gear from 2022 that we 

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absolutely loved and I told you 
if I remember correctly, on that

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episode, that I really have been
using the Not sired. 

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They make saw your squeezed 
right, the Platypus quick-draw, 

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right? 
And I made the comment on there,

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I don't know if those things 
sprees. 

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Now, the fibers that filter that
are like the same setup as the 

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theater. 
Squeeze the be free. 

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It's the same filter, basic 
idea. 

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No, I think they're different. 
I think the squeeze is a 

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different inside, then the be 
free. 

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Are you sure about that now? 
I'm not sure, but I'm pretty 

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sure it's almost the same thing.
No, I thought that Sawyer I 

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don't know, it looks to me like 
the quick draw, it has like the 

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fibers, like the be free. 
You know how it almost looks 

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like. 
You take it. 

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And it's like a bunch of rubber 
band, not living beings, but 

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like a bunch of strings and you 
take it and you make a you out 

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of it. 
I think it pack, it all 

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together, screw the filter on 
top. 

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Okay? 
I don't think that's the way the

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squeezed us. it has a check this
out because I feel like I feel 

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like it's the same setup. 
Well, it could be your own under

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the Hydro Blue is the same 
thing. 

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The Hydro Blue filters are the 
same way. 

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Yeah. 
So I feel like the Sawyer's, the

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same, I mean, we got find out, 
we don't maybe that's the next 

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episode. 
I really just have to cut when I

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was just look at by will buy for
filters term all open and see 

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what they look like on the 
inside. 

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Well, it may have already been 
done. 

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Might be more cost-effective, 
doesn't need to be nearly as 

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entertaining as when we do. 
It could be way more 

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entertaining because I say he's 
a small Chain Saw to open. 

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Them. 
If you think it's a good idea, 

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would you leave a comment below?
Like, leave us a message and let

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us know if you think this would 
be actually very entertaining 

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for us to take a small Chain Saw
and trying to open up filters. 

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Well, the reason I'm telling you
about it is because I got this 

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comment on here, okay? 
And they said that the Quick 

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Draw will this is by Stone, Dave
did Ventures. 

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Okay, quick Trot will definitely
freeze, I've done it twice, LOL.

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Dang. 
Yeah, the most common issue, I 

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think, with the failure of the 
filters, it's freezing. 

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It's freezing. 
Yeah, because here's the, here's

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the problem. 
Once it freezes You don't know. 

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I will say I will say though 
that the Platypus quick-draw 

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they have a way that you can 
test your filters. 

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See if it's good. 
Still only saying, what if you 

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not seen this know about this? 
They post about it on their 

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website and everything, but 
there's a way you can you can 

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push water through. 
And if you see bubbles come out,

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the top, that means the filter 
can't isn't filtering, right? 

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Yeah, because doesn't the 
Doesn't water whenever it 

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freezes it expands, and that 
ruins, and it cracks. 

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What it does, it attaches to the
fibers, then cracks the fibers. 

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And then those fibers because 
water, expands and contracts 

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opposite of everything else on 
the planet, not everything. 

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But almost everything just about
everything. 

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Yeah, everything. 
We typically would use. 

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Yeah, typically something 
freezes it shrinks. 

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Yeah. 
Except for water water expands. 

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Yeah, but wow, I don't know. 
I'm not a scientist, it's the 

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molecular structure. 
Well, that's great. 

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Whenever it freezes it creates a
Crystal Crystal strike crystal 

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shape structure, which takes up 
more space now, could be making 

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that up, I could be making that 
up, but I'm pretty sure that 

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that's all I know. 
Is it? 

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Expands it contracts? 
Yeah, it's a big do it because 

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of that, it takes up more room 
inside of that filter which is 

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like squeezing and pulling and 
tugging and doing all the stuff.

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So they decided filter and 
eventually it's a cracking the 

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fibers. 
And once those fibers are 

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cracked, They're not doing the 
job anymore. 

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Yeah, it's light and all the 
nasty fill through. 

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Yeah, that it should be 
filtering out. 

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Yeah. 
And so so I know the Sawyer or 

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not, the Sawyer. 
The Platypus quick-draw allows 

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you to test for that. 
Well, every every filter shift 

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system, they should integrate 
that. 

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It's another problem that we 
could solve. 

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Well, my favorite thing about 
water expanding whenever it 

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freezes. 
What's up? 

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I think about this every time I 
passed one of those giant rocks.

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That's crap. 
It off the face and all and 

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rolled down the hill. 
I mean, massive. 

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So we'll sounds, I'm buying some
by water. 

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Usually. 
Yeah. 

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I think it's the erosion and 
then the water gets in there and

455
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,900
then it freezes and slowly 
cracks whip cracks whip cracks. 

456
00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:07,100
Yeah, I think about it. 
Every time I see one of those 

457
00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:08,900
just Standalone rocks. 
That's Fallen. 

458
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,000
I'm like, thank you water. 
You created this? 

459
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,900
Yep. 
You've you're destroying our 

460
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:15,500
landscape. 
Okay. 

461
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:17,600
So we got a comment from Ben 
McMillan that I gotta put on 

462
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,900
here says now. 
We know how Jeremiah 1 over his 

463
00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:24,200
wife, freaky discrete? 
Mathematics. 

464
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,700
You know, my wife, she did not 
had to take discrete mathematics

465
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,000
and I am so jealous of her. 
I had one of the coolest 

466
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,200
professors. 
I better not say his name that I

467
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:44,000
already tell you about him. 
No no no, no super cool guy. 

468
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:50,500
Took us out for around after the
final Went to a local local like

469
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,400
college. 
Dive Bar. 

470
00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:54,900
Yeah, and to celebrate bought us
all around. 

471
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,000
Really, I got to be in that 
class, keeping the GPA alive. 

472
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,600
Discreet. 
Nice, I got one for you. 

473
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,900
You gotta go and see, we got 
time. 

474
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,900
We get two more two, more 
comments will be done. 

475
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:11,700
Okay. 
Okay, I'll go first. 

476
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:16,300
Then this is from James Fort. 
James Thornton that sounds A 

477
00:25:16,308 --> 00:25:20,400
real name not Anonymous. 
Yeah, I want that for winter. 

478
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:23,500
I use a pulse lid. 
You know what that is, right? 

479
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,200
Only, if I were so yeah, he 
pulled behind you. 

480
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,800
Okay, we don't have those in 
Kentucky. 

481
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:30,000
All of my gear goes into my 
sled. 

482
00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:33,800
My pack is used for my quilts 
hammock and clothing. 

483
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Just the things I want to keep 
dry. 

484
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,700
I want to talk about the slave 
for just a second. 

485
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,200
I know we don't have a whole lot
of time left here. 

486
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,700
We gotta go to pack out. 
This place is closing up pretty 

487
00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:44,900
soon. 
Yeah, we're closing up here in 

488
00:25:44,908 --> 00:25:47,500
about 15 minutes and you Are 
still pack everything up and get

489
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:48,500
it out of here. 
Yeah. 

490
00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:50,800
So what wrap this up pretty 
quick, but that was my last 

491
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,600
comment. 
And I want to tell you real 

492
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,000
quick about this later. 
Okay. 

493
00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:58,700
Okay. 
A few years ago, Jason and I 

494
00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:03,200
went to Pennsylvania Oil Creek, 
Oil Creek, Pennsylvania. 

495
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,000
And I would suggest anybody 
that's on the East Coast. 

496
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,300
If you can get a troop in there,
try get a trip in because you 

497
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:14,200
rent out shelters ahead of time.
And by the would they provide 

498
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,100
firewood? 
And it's split for you already. 

499
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,500
The shelter's have a fireplace 
in them and there are three 

500
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:22,500
walled. 
It's got doors on each side and 

501
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:24,400
bunks in there. 
So you can bring your sleeping 

502
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,500
pad and there's bathrooms. 
It's awesome. 

503
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:30,300
Okay. 
Here's the best part. 

504
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:33,900
It was snowy. 
Snowy snowy whenever we were 

505
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:36,500
there, Jason, I stopped and got 
a hotel. 

506
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,200
We got the next day and 
everything was covered in snow 

507
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,800
and which white-knuckle drove 
all the way Tha campsite dude 

508
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,100
we'd already driven, I don't 
know, eight hours or something. 

509
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,200
Tenant. 
This is a pretty long drive and 

510
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,900
we still had several hours of 
driving left on the interstate 

511
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:52,900
in the snow and ice still 
pouring the snow. 

512
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,500
We got there. 
Y'all check out my video on my 

513
00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:03,300
YouTube On the internet. 
I didn't treat me World Wide 

514
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:06,600
Web. 
Yeah, I do trip video of it and 

515
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,700
it was super, super fun. 
Because we brought Slade's, we 

516
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:15,300
said I hiked, it was only a mile
hike in, I hiked it in. 

517
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,200
What's the boots called 
everybody wears them on the farm

518
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,800
and for hunting stuff? 
It's all good. 

519
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Keep going. 
I wish I could remember. 

520
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,600
I got a terrible memory Muck 
Boots. 

521
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,600
Look, I'll warm up boots to 
hike, okay? 

522
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:34,100
And pull the sled behind me, 
instead of wearing a backpack, 

523
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,400
we brought containers and 
everything, dude. 

524
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,600
The sled backpacking. 
If we could do that in Kentucky,

525
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:42,200
will be so awesome. 
Because you know what we did 

526
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,100
with the sleds after we got to 
the shelters What'd you do? 

527
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,200
We went sledding as he did. 
We went sledding. 

528
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,600
I wrote on the same slide with 
Jason. 

529
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,400
We crashed it. 
It's all the videos. 

530
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,900
Yeah, it was fantastic. 
It was hilarious. 

531
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,500
And with this one, this comment 
is from Brian wenberg. 

532
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,600
Who's actually from here, in 
Central kentucky, funny story. 

533
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,500
About Brian, wonder if I'm not 
mistaken, we have some friends 

534
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:06,600
in common that have nothing to 
do with backpacking. 

535
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:10,400
So, yeah. 
So he he put on here and this 

536
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,900
reason we're to leave. 
This is the last one we had 

537
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:14,200
left. 
Our my Iran, which is always one

538
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,700
of the funniest It's anytime, we
have Jeff jumped on her three 

539
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,400
times. 
Please Don't Steal three times. 

540
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,100
The Tiger King. 
We got to bring them on. 

541
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,600
Again, this next year we have to
it's just no way around it. 

542
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,500
Yeah. 
But he said hashtag are my 

543
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:32,500
challenge pee yourself? 
Oh, if you heard the episode 

544
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:34,700
great, if you did go back and 
listen to it. 

545
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,300
Yeah. 
Jeff was talking about him doing

546
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:41,300
the unsupported FK t for John 
Muir Trail. 

547
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,000
I believe this is John Mayer. 
He was coming down the mountain 

548
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,900
at the end to the end. 
Of the trail and he had to go to

549
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,800
the bathroom and he was gonna 
just he knew he was only like 

550
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,100
minutes from having the record. 
It was going to like pee off the

551
00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:55,200
side of the trail. 
There were some old lady's 

552
00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:02,500
coming it's so instead of doing 
that he just let himself you 

553
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:04,800
know they say that you're not 
real through Hawker. 

554
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,200
Unless you're know they say 
you're not a real. 

555
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Hiker was less. 
Yes people pants. 

556
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,500
Yeah unless you poop your pants 
on trail? 

557
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:15,000
Yeah. 
But with Jeff HP yourself, bro. 

558
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,300
Wow, both of those things are so
gross, so gross, but I, you 

559
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:21,100
know, I honestly think that's 
poop would be easier to clean up

560
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:25,600
depending on how messy it was. 
Look at that, look at those 

561
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,400
talking about poop. 
It had to come back. 

562
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,600
It has been here for a few 
weeks. 

563
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,800
I'm sure there are people 
missing it. 

564
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,500
But Phuket, if we are the poop 
cast and for the Pooh cast, 

565
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,300
thank you for tuning in and we 
will catch you on the next one. 

566
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:38,500
Adios, folks.
