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Welcome to garage sales 
Unhinged. 

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Where the characters are as 
quirky as the vines. 

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I'm Julie. 
And I'm Jake. 

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Join us as we dive into the wild
world of garage sales, yard 

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sales, estate sales, and 
anywhere second hand sales are 

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happening from. 
Bizarre bargains to hilarious 

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haggles. 
You won't believe the stories 

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we've got lined up. 
Let's get unhinged. 

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You, you started recording a 
moment ago and a little thing 

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came up as like, Gemini is 
taking notes. 

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It's like you probably didn't 
want it to do that, you know? 

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This is the one thing of like 
none of this needs to be note 

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taking. 
None of this has to be like 

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preserved. 
Also, with the editing software 

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I use, it transcribes everything
we say and it doesn't get 

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everything 100% right. 
Yeah. 

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Which makes me laugh whenever I 
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transcript because I'm like, 
that's not what we said, but 

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sometimes it's better. 
Yeah, the mistake is much. 

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Oh, I wish I'd have said that. 
Yeah, that would have. 

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Been funny. 
I'm all for not inflating 

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Google's numbers. 
As far as who's using Gemini, no

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need for it. 
No thank you. 

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Yeah, burning hell. 
Sometimes I use it for like work

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calls so we're on my my work 
Google Workspace, but for this 

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ridiculous podcast I don't need 
note taking. 

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Right. 
There's no real need to optimize

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this thing. 
I don't think that's possible. 

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Not really interested in 
disruption. 

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You know, I figured this thing 
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is, so no need to innovate. 
All for getting in the way of 

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innovation. 
I think that's a good idea, 

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actually. 
You don't want to innovate 

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garage sales. 
I don't want, I don't know that 

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I want to innovate anything 
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Have I like, you know, just like
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Stop. 
Just stop. 

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I, I was working with the client
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know, maybe we don't have the 
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because the one that we have 
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know, we can't get people 
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Really. 
We were talking about a, a 

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community platform. 
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considered maybe just hiring 
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like they would be able to take 
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which may be the one that we 
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having something like continuous
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So it's more like a people issue
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And they just kind of let me go,
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that. 
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It is kind of funny though, like
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go in a conversation for 
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Maybe there's a people solution 
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Yeah, that, you know, perhaps 
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technological, and perhaps the 
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either. 
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that this whole podcast, we 
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technological stuff. 
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leads me into the conversation 
that I want to have with you 

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today, Jake. 
And here's here's my question. 

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Here is the the theme of today's
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Are you shocked by anything that
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So I won. 
I wanted to like commend you. 

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I don't know, I'm sure if I want
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know. 
I was really like, I feel like 

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one of the big energy expenses 
in doing this is we talk about 

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whatever we talk about before we
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about. 
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Segway. 
And you said that works as a 

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great Segway to this and I'm not
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you kind of getting the ball 
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Well, because we're not like 
whatever you think about things 

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that have held value over time, 
we're not constantly innovating 

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the thing. 
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So there there's your connecting
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Dots, man, she. 
Nailed it. 

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Some of us have a higher IQ than
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You know, you didn't innovate, 
you embedded you. 

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There's some embedterment going 
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It's embetterfied. 
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a word. 
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texting the other night about 
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What are the things that, you 
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several years ago was a thing 
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Right, the beanie. 
Baby, because those were going 

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to hold value. 
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You got to get the Beanie 
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ground floor. 
You just got. 

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To and they they did not hold 
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No. 
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Babies. 
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Baby collector, I guess. 
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So it really is. 
I don't know. 

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It's funny. 
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a 90s thing, wasn't it? 
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Yeah, 90s, early 2000s. 
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that I need to recap the play by
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as what Beanie Baby is or was, 
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Hold on, Let's let's, because 
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and doesn't know what a Beanie 
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to pause playing the podcast, 
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conundrum of Beanie Baby, and 
then come back and then they can

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start listening to this again. 
Or you can just pause this, put 

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them on the phone with their cat
lady aunt and she can explain it

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to him because she still 
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Oh yes she does. 
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like a beanie baby box at a yard
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away over time. 
Those that would make a really 

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great white elephant gift, Yeah,
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Hold on, I I got to do some 
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Jake, this is just the gift that
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While you're doing that, I'm 
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ponder out loud, which is my 
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But it does kind of make you 
wonder how successful things can

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be to kind of manufacture 
collectibility. 

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Yeah. 
What makes something 

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collectible? 
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organically over time, or is 
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manufacture now? 
Beanie Babies, they certainly 

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tried to manufacture that right 
up front, like, hey, you'll want

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to, you'll want to get this. 
We're only making 18 of this 

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purple Beanie Baby Penguin. 
You got to get one because no 

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one else is going to have it and
they're going to want it and it 

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you're only going to pay $45.00 
for it and you can charge 

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anything you want for it. 
You can retire. 

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Like that was the pitch and it 
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You couldn't, they couldn't 
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collectibility. 
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in that way. 
And it's something that I feel 

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like the NFT effort didn't 
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You know, it's funny. 
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say Beanie Babies had a better 
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Oh, Oh yes, very much so. 
So what? 

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I was swiftly looking up on my 
Internet. 

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My Internet is different than 
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But on my Internet, Jake, you 
might get this someday. 

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But there is a beanie baby frog 
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Smoochie, I love it. 
Yeah, you're going to, because 

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it's going for $5 off of eBay. 
It's nod to the handsome Prince 

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coming from kissing the frog, 
huh? 

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I get I don't know but. 
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the smoochie? 
Oh yes, why? 

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I get it. 
You see you need this. 

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I studied Latin. 
OK, so going back to my original

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question, are you shocked by 
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over time? 
And I so here's they have not 

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held value. 
I really. 

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So here's the thing, like I 
started thinking about this 

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question and really this is just
an opportunity for me to go off 

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on the things that I don't 
understand why they're still 

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valuing. 
These are quick, OK? 

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I'm not a collector, OK? 
And that's going to come out in 

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this discussion. 
And Jacob, you have some of 

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these things. 
Oh interesting, I don't consider

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myself a collector. 
You don't realize you have some 

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of these things. 
So like the thing that like that

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shocks me. 
The most of the things that have

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held value are comic books. 
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Jacob has a trove of comic books
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Yeah, well, yeah, that's the 
asterisk had you know our. 

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Parents. 
Oh no, it is still yours. 

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They're just holding it for you.
I have no, that's the thing. 

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I have no like opinion on the 
matter, but if some of those 

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things have retained value, I 
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damn quick. 
No, I think everyone just heard 

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it here of like first come first
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And if I find that box of comics
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call you from my yacht. 
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It's interesting because 
collectors, if you call somebody

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a collector, the, I don't know 
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comes with some, some baggage. 
Like for some maybe you, you say

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that you're a collector and 
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into that, that oh, OK, you're 
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monetary gain. 
Right. 

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And like, I might have had a 
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I used to have a lot of comics, 
but none of it was with, you 

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know, an eye toward the future. 
You know, none of this was about

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ROI. 
Just like I wanted to like, look

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at the laser beams and oh, look,
these girls are in tight 

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clothes. 
I feel weird and stuff like that

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all. 
Of a sudden, my pants are tight.

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Right. 
And and like over time you're 

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like, oh, hey, I still have a 
scrap ton of these things. 

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And if any of them retain value,
monetary value, then cool. 

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I guess I'm not going to get 
anything else out of that. 

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Can can you tell me how much 
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Am I, am I done, Julie? 
No, I don't. 

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No, you're not done. 
But it is one of those things 

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of, again, I'm not a comic book 
aficionado. 

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I never enjoyed them as a kid. 
I don't enjoy them now, like 

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now, like my friends, they're 
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feel like that's just a hardback
comic book and I'm like, but 

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why? 
And also like I, I get it like 

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Superman #1 highly collectible. 
But for me, I look at them 

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going, it's just an opportunity 
to burn in a fire. 

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Like I don't understand the 
value behind it, but I again, 

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I'm not a collector, I don't, I 
don't appreciate it for whatever

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it's worth. 
I guess, you know, like like 

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that when I get because it's 
kind of the cornerstone for a 

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lot of other like what launched 
a lot of other stuff. 

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So it has a relevant cultural, 
you know, significance. 

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And to say that I own the actual
artifact, you know. 

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I want to go back like let's go 
back to the very beginning of 

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artifacts. 
Has anyone ever found the first 

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like wheel? 
Because that led to a bunch of 

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other things. 
I know we're going to kind of 

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stop there. 
We caught up with the guy that 

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made that thing be like, hey 
buddy, we've seen where this 

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goes, let's not do that. 
There there's a lot of work that

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comes after the wheel and the 
man in my time. 

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I had to use teams like just 
don't even. 

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No, I'm wondering, like the 
team. 

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Guy next to wheel and now I get 
spam calls four times a day from

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my area code in high school. 
It's great. 

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Like, you know, the noise that 
comes with like a team's 

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message, It's very triggering to
people. 

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I've got Oh my God, like, what 
do people want? 

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Like was there ever a noise back
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wheel was being created that 
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Sharon? 
Not now it. 

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It probably was like probably 
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Saber tooth tiger. 
Oh yeah, I mean, that was. 

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Probably more like very. 
Bad situation. 

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OK, so another soapbox Julie 
moment. 

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Things that I don't understand 
how they have held their value 

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over time. 
Because The thing is, is if this

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next thing, if it held its 
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enjoy it, which is toys. 
Oh, right. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Like, and I think we've talked 

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about before, we have destroyed 
our toys from our childhood. 

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Yeah, we've, we've mentioned how
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full rubber, plastic toys. 
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like, the spectacle of them 
burning that we were directly 

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over the fumes as they came up, 
which would explain why we would

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start a podcast. 
I mean, there's that. 

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I mean, I remember clearly it 
like shooting them with BB guns 

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and like, man, the joys of being
a kid out in the country. 

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But again, it's one of those 
things like, OK, so someone 

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wanted one of your original he 
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Like, oh, so sorry. 
He has a melted face. 

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So now he's like 2 face from 
Batman. 

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Is that great snake 2 face? 
Yeah. 

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Oh, cool. 
Got it right. 

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And you call yourself something 
other than a comic book 

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aficionado. 
Look at you nerd now. 

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Yeah, thank you. 
I mean, I'm here for the nerds, 

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but I'm like, in order for that 
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would have, it would need to be 
in like pristine condition. 

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For most kids. 
We just want to play with the 

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toy. 
Right. 

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So I'm like, I, I just don't 
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get the holder value? 
Because at some point if someone

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bought it thinking like, Hey, I 
like this thing, it's going to 

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go into my collection. 
No one's going to touch it for 

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decades. 
Then it you didn't buy a toy but

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a piece of plastic. 
You know, collectability, I feel

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like the, the concept of 
collectability has a lot to do 

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with anticipating a market, 
right. 

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Yeah. 
Like, it's collectible and it, 

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it's collectible because there's
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for this thing. 
And at some point, like, uh oh, 

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like there's a window of 
opportunity. 

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If you don't have the thing and 
fence it, you know, sell it, 

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within a certain amount of time,
the people that would even find 

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it nostalgic will have died. 
And no one will get the 

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reference. 
No one will appreciate it for 

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what it was. 
And now you've just got a box of

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Wendell Wilkie political, you 
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So OK, my next item that I had 
on my list and it kind of goes 

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along with it. 
You buy it again. 

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If you're hoping that it's going
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someday, you buy it with the 
hope and a dream and it's going 

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to be worth a lot of money. 
And this next item that I just 

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don't understand trading cards. 
OK. 

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Whether that is a sports trading
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don't get it. 
Mary asked In the research you 

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did around this, and we've 
already kind of like we covered 

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like the extent of your research
for this podcast and it is 

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thorough, but was there anything
on that list that you did 

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partake in at any point in your 
life? 

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No, I don't collect. 
Stuff because between the toys 

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and I mean, you played with toys
as a kid, but you weren't like 

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boys with toys like we had 
stupid about it. 

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Girls were like this is OK. 
It served its purpose and I have

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other interests in the life 
outside of this. 

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Boys were like, no, this is my 
personality. 

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Don't you understand? 
This is me. 

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I'm this toys, comic books, 
creating cards. 

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These are these to some degree 
feel somewhat gendered, and I 

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kind of don't like where you're 
going. 

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Again, this is this is me. 
This is my podcast. 

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I can rant as much as I want 
over any topic that I want. 

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People are just fortunate enough
that I'm talking about a second 

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hand market for this stuff. 
My my husband has he's collected

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baseball trading cards. 
OK, cool. 

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They're in binders somewhere in 
the house. 

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Awesome. 
And he has some. 

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Like what I love? 
Hey, if you guys like, subscribe

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to our Patreon so that you can 
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she's describing her husband's 
baseball card collection and the

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fact that they are in binders. 
She's furiously rubbing at her 

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eyes right now. 
Subscribe. 

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You'll get like juicy things 
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OK, I have. 
I've been with my husband. 

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I've known him for I can do the.
Math here. 

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For almost 12 years. 
OK, I've. 

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Seen him look at that binder 
twice. 

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Yeah, it's not for him. 
One of the times is when we were

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moving to this current house 
that we live in and part of me 

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was going like, hey, man, this 
man that I'm married that I kind

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of like, why, why do you have 
this binder taking up square 

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footage in our house? 
And he's like, oh, you know, I 

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used to collect these. 
I'm like keyword used to 

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keywords used to. 
And I was like, well, what are 

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you going to do with him? 
He's like, well, you know, maybe

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I'll I'll sell them someday or 
something like that. 

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Well, you have to get them rated
and it's a whole process to get 

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them rated because it whenever 
you go to sell it, the people 

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that collect it want to know 
like what condition is it going 

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to be in? 
Don't ask me about the rating 

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system because I don't know. 
But it you had to take it 

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somewhere, it's a process. 
It's almost like you're getting 

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it authenticated. 
But right. 

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Exactly. 
Yeah. 

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It but the binder is just not 
moving. 

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It's not take, it's not doing 
anything. 

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What? 
How is the binder harming you? 

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Like what? 
What did the binder do to you? 

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And they're like the grand 
scheme of square footage it 

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takes up in your home. 
Does he have just that? 

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I hate that you sound like my 
husband right now. 

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So maybe this is the gender 
episode, or I'm talking like 

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people collect this stuff. 
Yeah, because men are about 

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retaining value. 
Women are about seeking value. 

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Oh yes, yes, they see you see 
it. 

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But no, I mean like, OK, so if 
you buy, if someone were to buy 

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a rookie card of a rookie today,
you are hoping that they turn 

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they have a career like. 
Or Larry Bird. 

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Or Michael Jordan, like any of 
those. 

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Yeah, Yeah, you want that? 
So in 40 years, you know, if you

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bought the I don't even know how
much trading cards are today, 

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but let's say you bought a 
trading card for $10 today as a 

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rookie, that rookie player that 
probably I don't know how much 

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they are so sorry for all the 
trading card people that are 

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like that's way too lower than. 
I'm going to write a very nerdy 

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letter to the podcast. 
I'll file it away with the 

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trading cards and and then you 
hold on to it for 40-50 years 

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and then at that point you're 
like gold. 

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I'm going to sell it for $2000 
like that. 

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That ROI Jacob makes no sense 
for me to hold on to it for 

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decades. 
We're not hoping that it because

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if I put that $10 into the stock
market, I can make some money 

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off of that, probably more than 
two. 

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Some money on that. 
Yes. 

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It's. 
The same thing, it's like if you

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bought a rookie card and then 
they tore their ACL or like had 

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a horrible like game career 
ending injury, you're out the 

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10. 
Bucks that's that's sports baby.

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So I appreciate that you want to
turn this episode into like a 

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couples therapy thing, but like 
that's the like there's a small 

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collectability collecting stuff.
Like you don't buy a trading 

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card because like, oh man, I'm 
really looking for some new 

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reading. 
Yeah, Like I'm, I'm really 

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looking forward to getting 
through this trading card in the

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next month. 
Like that's not like, no, I look

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at it, I have it like that. 
It takes all of like 45 seconds 

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to get through it. 
Really take it in and away it 

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goes wherever the point of 
having like a rookie card is 

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that OK, I'm going to it's a 
gamble. 

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Yeah, yeah, you might as well 
put it in stock. 

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You might as well put it on a 
roulette table. 

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It's it's a gamble and it's the 
fun of gambling and like, hey, 

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and I feel like for trading 
cards, it's a bit of the unlike 

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socks and unlike the roulette 
table, there's a bit of, you 

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know, vicarious living that I 
invested in this this dude and 

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therefore his achievements 
throughout his career are 

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appreciated in this card I have,
which means I also am rookie of 

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the year. 
I also, you know, achieve these 

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things. 
I saw it, and because I saw it, 

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that means I've got something in
me that, you know, makes it 

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possible for me to recover from 
Tommy John surgery. 

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This whole speech that you're 
giving me right now, could you 

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also apply that to your comics? 
I'm like, I see Batman. 

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Absolutely. 
I just told you yes. 

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Then hey, look, this toy that 
I'm about to melt the face on, 

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this is me. 
I'm jacked like this. 

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I have a laser sword. 
Don't you understand? 

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No, clearly. 
Somebody really puts me under 

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pressure, I emit toxic fumes. 
Well, there is that. 

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I will say that we're under 
pressure. 

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We're probably full of toxic 
fumes. 

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I think the collect collectible 
space has a lot to do with 

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fantasy. 
The idea is that you invest at 

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this point and it could turn 
into that. 

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And I think there is a lot of, 
you know, fantasy and wish 

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fulfillment in that. 
And it is interesting. 

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I think somebody probably has, 
it's just, you know, why would 

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you want to look into it? 
But I wonder if anyone has done 

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a kind of an autopsy of the kind
of ill-fated NFT effort? 

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The psychology behind it? 
Well, and, and why, why it never

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took on, why it failed and it 
probably has a lot to do with 

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the fact that it's digital. 
Everything you're describing is 

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physical. 
Yeah, these things are tangible 

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things and and again, I think 
it's digital items. 

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What? 
And that's kind of, I don't even

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want to get into it, but like, 
that's where cryptocurrency 

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comes in. 
Like I've never held a 

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cryptocurrency coin in my hand, 
right? 

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Because if I did, I'd probably 
put it into a pinball machine 

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and play a game. 
Right, I'd probably burn it. 

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Well I just spent $1300.00 with 
that one coin playing a pinball 

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game and I still didn't get. 
On But did you smell it? 

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That was cool. 
Well, OK, so the last item I 

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have on my list, I have things 
that just, I can't believe they 

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hold value is sports 
memorabilia. 

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OK, this is a gendered thing. 
This is not cool. 

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And I say this to somebody that 
had more of a high school 

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athletic career than me. 
Because I didn't speak in high 

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school, man. 
Yeah. 

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I'm still getting there. 
I'm still getting better. 

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No, I mean, it's one of those 
things like, I mean, I, I go to 

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a lot of events where there's 
silent auctions and, and people 

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are auctioning off helmets, 
signed helmets, they're 

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auctioning off signed jerseys. 
I just, there's auctioning off 

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like signed photographs. 
I'm going. 

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But why I don't? 
I don't understand. 

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Well, like, try to put yourself 
in their shoes. 

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No, I don't want to. 
That's gross. 

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Yeah, that is gross. 
The idea is that, like, there's 

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some nostalgic value. 
Wow. 

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I own, you know, Babe Ruth's 
bat. 

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At some point, the market will 
go. 

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That's cool. 
Babe Ruth is a footnote in some,

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you know, reference database, 
but like, I, it means nothing to

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me. 
I can look at some old YouTube 

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footage of the guy, but OK. 
Yeah, that that was that. 

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But have you tried, you know, 
virtual sex chess? 

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It's that's where it's at. 
Sports memorabilia. 

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Do you not want to talk about 
that? 

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No like like the point is like. 
No, because you said that and I 

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heard a record scratch in my 
brain. 

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Hey, you heard it, that means 
something. 

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Oh, there is a horse piece. 
Oh my God. 

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There is a Bishop. 
This all makes sense. 

451
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,800
I'm going to have my therapist 
join us on an upcoming podcast 

452
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:44,640
episode. 
Then what, what's a value for 

453
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,280
what I feel like for what 
you're, what you're describing 

454
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,280
is contextual and context isn't 
static. 

455
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,680
Like like you and I have like a 
historical point of reference 

456
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,280
for a lot of stuff and that's 
going to be different for any 

457
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,480
subsequent generation. 
And, and even within our 

458
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,240
historical framework, those 
things weren't of value to you. 

459
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,360
And so, yeah, no, like it 
wouldn't make sense that they've

460
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,360
retained value because they 
never had value to you for 

461
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,640
somebody that had is deeply 
invested in those things at 

462
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,120
least at least emotionally that 
can easily transfer to some 

463
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:30,960
financial investment as well. 
And they and for collecting the,

464
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,840
the bet is that other people 
have invested in this in such a 

465
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:40,120
way that I can leverage that. 
OK, Mr. Smarty Pants. 

466
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,360
So is there anything that I 
haven't mentioned that you're 

467
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,560
like, yeah, I can't believe that
this has held value over time. 

468
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,880
I can't believe people want to 
like, spend ungodly amounts of 

469
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,120
money for this thing. 
Cars. 

470
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,160
Give me an example. 
Old cars A. 

471
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,640
Specific example, jerk. 
I mean, part of me gets it. 

472
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,000
Older cars are cool, you know, 
again, contextual reference. 

473
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,320
They're emblematic of something 
that you associate with a period

474
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,480
in time. 
Whether that's was ever true or 

475
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,200
not, you know, is a different 
conversation. 

476
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,920
But strictly on utility, one car
is the same as another, you 

477
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760
know, as long as they work 
decently enough. 

478
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,400
I, I don't know, I, I've never 
been one for car culture and 

479
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,640
like, and that's what kind of 
like kind of like you, you're 

480
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,800
like, how the hell does anybody 
care about this stuff? 

481
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,000
I, I'm kind of like that dude, 
Like, hey, it's strictly 

482
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,040
utilitarian. 
Why do you have this binder full

483
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,400
of things that you're not using 
or enjoying? 

484
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,560
You think you're just going to 
turn this into a payday, some 

485
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600
undefined day? 
I don't know. 

486
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,000
I guess you know, you, you, 
Julie, you put a gun to my head 

487
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,280
and so you asked me for 
something and I said I guess 

488
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,600
cars because seems like there's 
better things to spend energy 

489
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,880
on. 
I mean, you know, actually, I 

490
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,120
get it. 
I get it. 

491
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,320
And I'm not going to fault 
anybody for being into any of 

492
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,880
it, but. 
OK, so here's my thing about the

493
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,880
cars. 
Yeah. 

494
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,680
There are some older model cars 
like the engine. 

495
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,200
How the engine was built and how
it was designed is innovative. 

496
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,920
Is it better? 
They're, they're easy. 

497
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,360
I say easy. 
There's a formula to get them 

498
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,440
fixed up and running again. 
And, and, and honestly, like the

499
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,280
simplicity of some older engines
that can still be worked on it 

500
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,360
today. 
Like I, I, I drive a 

501
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,240
supercomputer. 
There's no way that a regular 

502
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,280
mom and pop could build the 
engine that's in my car today. 

503
00:30:54,400 --> 00:31:00,360
But an older BMWs and older 
Fords and I'm like, you know, I 

504
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,440
think the ingenuity behind the 
mechanical piece of it and like 

505
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,960
that's pretty cool. 
And to be able to see that and 

506
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,240
if it's been up kept or you 
know, you can bring it back to 

507
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,920
life. 
Like for me it's utilitarian. 

508
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Like I can still use that car to
go get groceries today. 

509
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,960
I cannot use a trading card to 
go get groceries. 

510
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,840
No, but you can appreciate the 
craftsmanship that goes into a 

511
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:32,440
comic book or toy or the 
narratives we build around these

512
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,120
things that we imbue with so 
much meaning, which again, are 

513
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,840
contextual. 
Julie, don't you understand? 

514
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,600
So hey, don't get your husband. 
No. 

515
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,000
Yeah, I feel like I should talk 
with him instead. 

516
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,160
We're not doing a two on one for
this conversation. 

517
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,760
I'm just going to get pummeled 
by two guys going, you're wrong,

518
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,400
Julie. 
So I mean, I get what you're 

519
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,760
saying. 
It's all contextual and you 

520
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,000
know, beauty's in the eye of the
beholder, so to speak. 

521
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,760
And part of me is just going 
like some of these. 

522
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,800
And again, I'm a minimalist. 
I don't, I don't collect things.

523
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,360
I'm, I, I usually buy things. 
So like it's utilitarian. 

524
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,560
It has a purpose. 
And then like once that purpose 

525
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,360
is done, I'm donating it, I'm 
selling it. 

526
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,280
I'm you know it's out of the. 
House Julie's just like 

527
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,160
bloodless operator. 
She will you if it means you're 

528
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,640
in the way of the mission. 
Yep. 

529
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,040
Yeah, I'm not going to. 
I'm not going to argue with them

530
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,680
on that one. 
Actually our mother. 

531
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,720
I love how I bring up our mom 
and almost. 

532
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:39,480
Wow, that was wow. 
Our mother, our mother hates 

533
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,320
that I'm not sentimental about 
stuff. 

534
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,400
And she'll be like, oh, do you 
want this cake plate from, like,

535
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,920
your great aunt? 
I'm like, no, I'm good. 

536
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,480
She's like, but you know, it, it
was passed down through the 

537
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,280
like, yeah. 
I don't play smart. 

538
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,520
Yeah, that's great that they did
that. 

539
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,920
Yeah. 
I hope everybody feel good about

540
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,000
that. 
Cool, cool story bro. 

541
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:09,160
Goodwill. 
Yeah, so like, I think it's one 

542
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,560
of the reasons our mom is 
already like talking to our 

543
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,200
nieces and nephews and in laws 
and stuff. 

544
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,960
Like in a generation. 
Hey, if there's anything that 

545
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,160
you would like in the house, cuz
Julie doesn't want any of it and

546
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,200
I'm like Nah, I'm good. 
We have big bonfire. 

547
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,840
I don't care. 
But yeah, it's it's one of those

548
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,200
things I was just thinking about
this of like, there's some 

549
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,560
things that have quote UN quote,
health value over time. 

550
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,280
I was like, and also it will be 
interesting talking about what 

551
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,680
various generations apply to 
value. 

552
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,320
So talking about trading cards, 
are are the people that are 

553
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:51,280
being born today, are they going
to put any value on a Babe Ruth 

554
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,760
rookie card? 
That, and that's my thing is 

555
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,720
like, hey, the guy's a footnote.
That's at some point in history,

556
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,000
he's a footnote if he's not 
already. 

557
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,120
I think you'd have, you'd have 
to make more of a pitch to a 

558
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,880
younger person. 
Why this thing? 

559
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,040
Like why you would want to pay 
10K for this? 

560
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,880
Like why it matters. 
And maybe that person is just 

561
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,159
interested in the ROI. 
If they're interested in like, 

562
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:20,400
the, you know, historical value,
who knows? 

563
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,600
But yeah. 
Like Noah's son, back in my day,

564
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,040
this is what like an NFT was, 
but we could hold on to it. 

565
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,840
Don't you see? 
They were apes, but they were 

566
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,560
sad. 
Or no, they were bored. 

567
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,320
They were bored apes. 
Don't you get it? 

568
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,239
Do you see? 
Do you see you all to hell? 

569
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,440
No, I and and too like, because 
these things are contextual. 

570
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,719
Like I've brilliantly explained 
to you, you know, as a man. 

571
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,320
Sorry if everyone could have 
seen the look that I just gave 

572
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,840
Jacob on that one. 
Yeah, you really got to 

573
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,240
subscribe to our Patreon. 
We do not have a Patreon. 

574
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:07,800
Stuff you should subscribe. 
Wait. 

575
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,520
Hold. 
On running gag where I'm always 

576
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,000
like encouraging people to 
subscribe and there's no way to 

577
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,240
do it. 
No, I was going to ask, did you 

578
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,000
go out and create a Patreon for 
the? 

579
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,720
Podcast and I. 
Don't know about it. 

580
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Yeah, I really should. 
That'd be cool. 

581
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,760
It's like things like screen 
grabs of you rolling your eyes 

582
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,160
like it's nothing but that. 
I wouldn't put it past you and 

583
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,160
that would make me laugh very 
hard. 

584
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,560
But because it's contextual, 
like the sports fan for Babe 

585
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,560
Ruth help, the sports fan for 
Larry Holmes isn't the sports 

586
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,760
fan of today. 
Because like you're you're young

587
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,880
potential collector today 
probably relates to sports 

588
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,560
differently because like maybe 
they've got more space to be 

589
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:09,200
more worried about the parlay or
the fantasy score than the 

590
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,480
sport. 
And so, hey, like any individual

591
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:19,840
athlete doesn't matter as much 
as like what they did for me on 

592
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,800
this prop that or on this 
fantasy roster. 

593
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,640
And so the way people relate to 
sport, I argue like very 

594
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,480
recently, like it is undergoing 
a a significant change such that

595
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,600
these these artifacts that we 
imbue all this meaning into 

596
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,320
like, again, they're contextual,
but they were also like that 

597
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,400
context involves how people 
related to the topic. 

598
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,760
And if that changes, then the 
value of the artifact maybe that

599
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,480
also changes. 
So maybe that's a cool good call

600
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,640
to action to our listeners is if
you have things that there's 

601
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,760
currently a market for of 
collectors items, hurry up and 

602
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,880
sell it. 
Do it, do it. 

603
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Give us. 
Give us a percentage, but do it.

604
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,120
That's right. 
It is kind of a finder's day. 

605
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,160
We get a Commission, don't we? 
Yeah, yeah. 

606
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,520
It's in the fine print when you 
signed up for our Patreon that 

607
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,880
you will give us 20%. 
Oh, no one reads those things 

608
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,640
and we count on it. 
You know I like fine print. 

609
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,200
All right, Well, that's what I 
had for this week of just going 

610
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,320
off on a tirade. 
I've got no quip at the end of 

611
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,360
this. 
I mean, if you collect, collect,

612
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,400
you got those Beanie Babies. 
Boss them, boss them out. 

613
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,880
Yeah, ebay's got a lot of the 
Beanie Babies for sale, so. 

614
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,760
They make they make good 
insulation. 

615
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,080
They do, They really do. 
All right. 

616
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,320
Well, that's what we have for 
this week. 

617
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,320
Thanks everyone, Talk to. 
You later.

