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Hey, welcome to the Good Girls 
podcast, and today we're talking

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about love. 
Languages. 

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Usual disclaimer, if you are 
driving with your father-in-law,

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you might want to turn it off 
because even those love 

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languages and that sounds soft, 
we might accidentally say some 

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things that you're uncomfortable
hearing. 

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Some people's love language is a
deep digging. 

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And if you have a daddy kink and
you're driving with your 

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father-in-law to fulfill your 
daddy kink, then you know what? 

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Continue listening. 
Maybe you'll learn. 

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Wait. 
I'm sorry, good girls. 

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Can I just take a quick 
deviation here that if you are 

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wondering why Kay always begins 
the podcast by warning you about

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your father-in-law being in the 
car. 

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Not that she has a kink for her 
actual father-in-law, but she 

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does have a. 
Real life daddy kink. 

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Figurative father-in-law kink 
because because this is the kind

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of relationship we have. 
She sent me one of her favorite 

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pornos and it is a daddy in law,
a kind of situation where she 

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cheated. 
You've ever seen Stephen St. 

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Qua, a male porn star and his 
little boomerang Penny. 

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Then you understand that it's 
not really a father-in-law 

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thing, it's something about. 
Stephen St. 

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Yeah, he's just the way. 
That he runs the Yeah, he runs a

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room. 
He's got little man boobies. 

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He's great. 
OK, you and you hyped up the Man

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movies. 
I was picturing somebody with a 

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way more doughy physique. 
I mean his is a is a highly 

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curved penis, but other than 
that I think he's very 

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attractive for his age. 
He's got the nice like gruff, 

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like I'm in charge here and I'm 
going to show you what you're 

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worth. 
Anyway, so that if that hasn't 

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significant, if that has not 
scared off everybody who was 

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listening to this with you, 
let's jump in and talk about 

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love languages. 
Woo Hoo. 

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So want to start off before we 
get heavily into love languages 

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with this amazing study by 
Heyman and colleagues. 

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Published in 2010, journal 
Family Psychology looked at 453 

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couples with a child aged 3 to 7
and surveyed them on the areas 

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of desired change in their 
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And they found women, compared 
with men, wanted greater 

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increases in their partners, 
emotional and compassionate 

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behaviors and, no surprise, 
instrumental support. 

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So support around the household 
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And men wanted more sex, more 
sex. 

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They wanted more attention to 
their sexual needs. 

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They wanted more sexual 
relationships. 

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You know, men, I just have a 
little cheat code here. 

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Maybe if you help the woman with
those other things, then they 

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would want more sex with you. 
Yeah. 

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This really so our favorite 
place to do research besides 

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scholarly articles is Reddit. 
And so I was skimming through 

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kind of people who had 
previously posted the question 

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of what is your love language 
and just the number of men who 

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answered it. 
Blowjobs. 

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Yeah. 
And yeah, you're wondering why 

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your wife doesn't give you more 
blowjobs, man. 

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Here is a reason why. 
So SJ lead us into what are the 

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five love languages? 
All right, Well, actually I 

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would like to start with a 
little bit of background about 

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the book. 
This is an interesting one 

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because I think that this has 
become such a pop culture 

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phenomenon and the number of 
people who talk about love 

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languages, especially just like 
how much it's become a meme now,

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right? 
Like people are like, my love 

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language is bagels, my love 
language is cat pictures. 

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Versus the number of people who 
have read this book. 

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In this case, I would actually 
say that that's probably a good 

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thing. 
The book is utter trash. 

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And I don't know. 
OK, Have you? 

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What is your experience with the
love languages beyond Internet 

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memes? 
So I don't want to put up this 

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episode because I still think 
it's very, very worthwhile 

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discussing and it provides a 
nice framework to think about 

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things. 
But I think that the science of 

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the love languages and the idea 
that you only have one love 

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language and then you need to 
make sure your partner matches 

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up with you is da da, da, da 
trash. 

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And that's partially because 
Gary does trash, trash. 

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He is a PhD of adult education. 
So he does. 

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From like a seminary, and this 
is somebody with a seminary 

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degree like I do not, that does 
not make me qualified to be a 

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couples counselor. 
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are still highly useful to 
explore because they kind of 

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provide a framework for talking 
about things that you're feeling

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or lacking with your partner and
all these different. 

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So I want to say that they're 
trash, but I also want to say 

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that I'm excited to talk about 
them. 

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You and I feel exactly the same 
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So we can eliminate the debate 
portion of our of our agenda for

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today. 
I feel very much the same way. 

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I think that it sparks a helpful
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We've even had this conversation
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I don't think that we have to be
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languages which we will get into
are very arbitrary and also 

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somewhat overlapping. 
And also, yeah, if your if your 

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knowledge of it came from the 
book and not just random one 

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line Internet posts, first of 
all, you wasted a lot of time 

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because you can learn basically 
all the concepts you need to. 

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And I would say like half a 
podcast. 

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So we'll spend less than half of
the podcast today talking about 

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what they're actually about and 
then spend the rest of the 

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podcast either trashing the book
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this in our own lives. 
The basic take away is to just 

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communicate and pay attention to
the way that other people 

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receive love. 
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helpful take away from the book 
is that the book is really about

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paying attention to what your 
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Where is like the Internet 
mimification version is people 

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saying like my love language is 
like you bringing me breakfast 

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and things like that. 
So yeah, the original book. 

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So there's two versions of the 
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There's the original published 
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Jerry, Jerry Gary Chapman was 
Gerber was talking to a largely 

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Christian audience. 
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with the podcast because this is
a great like Christian 

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communications thing. 
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Christian world, this is 
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your parents were reading. 
And I think people get it in pre

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Cana, that's where they hear 
about the. 

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Law. 
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a popular one to hand out for 
that, which I will remind you is

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just like I was saying, like 
seminary does not qualify you to

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be a couples counselor. 
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you are getting marriage 
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certified layperson in the 
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In the Catholic version, you are
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celibate person, right? 
Yes, who also is likely biased 

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towards whichever person's 
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church. 
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lucky to marry Adam. 
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all that. 
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questions and then meanwhile, 
Adam's over there and doesn't 

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get any questions. 
I'm not speaking for any 

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personal stories, obviously. 
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So, yeah. 
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this very like norm core trad 
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probably most people know and 
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couples. 
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non hetero couples seems like 
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written. 
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opportunities because this is a 
whole like he just got on the 

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love languages gravy train with 
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There is love languages for 
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parents, for parents of kids 
with disabilities, love 

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languages for men, not love 
languages for women, which we'll

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So if he wanted to speak to like
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for LGBT couples, he could have,
but he's kind of more in the 

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like, don't ask, don't tell. 
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version, I think that they had 
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of his like gender norm language
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Yeah, exactly. 
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checklist kind of things of like
how to do the different love 

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languages. 
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if your love, like if your 
wife's love language is acts of 

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service, then you can like help 
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And then women, it's like if 
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you can do his laundry, things 
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And also I will say, Kay, you 
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This book was first certified 
good girls trademark only the 

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wifeys do not care for sex. 
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came off to me as like a manual 
for dumb fucking husbands who 

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like, can't figure out for shit 
why they're wisely basically 

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what you were saying in the 
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Why doesn't my wife want to have
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I don't do any housework and I 
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all that and that is not my 
there's like a. 

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Story in there that's like he 
has all these like advice 

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columns which I think that he 
like writes it seems like he 

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writes them himself. 
They're not like actual letters 

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to him of like a guy that like 
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his wife was having a baby. 
And then he's like, why is my 

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wife so Moby all the time? 
So really, I think that his core

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audience and why there's a love 
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love languages for women book is
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We're starting from the bottom. 
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The women are so socialized to 
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already that we didn't really 
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But I think that he assumes that
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out there are like husbands. 
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like a deep digging is her love 
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Flowers, Is it not your love 
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So gender normative that he does
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that maybe a deep digging is 
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So there's very like with the 
physical touch one, it's very 

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masculine gendered. 
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for the physical touch is like 
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And yeah, on the other side it's
like maybe your wife should blow

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you. 
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he's Christian. 
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side note is that I was looking 
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which obviously there's a lot of
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physical touch is a great love 
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word, but just a way to increase
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partner. 
Oxytocin. 

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pressure, like when you touch 
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the same wavelength. 
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Masters and Johnson, pioneers of
the modern sex therapy movement,

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used to encourage their couples 
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often and that would lead them 
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And I was like Masters and 
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but I can't really think of it. 
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modern sex therapy movement, 
obviously I want to look into 

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them. 
And it turns out, and you 

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probably already know this from 
your page, they're like the 

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conversion therapy people 
they're. 

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Like friendly? 
People who are gay and I can 

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just have them touch their their
the other sex and then they're 

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going to be changed. 
And we already know because we 

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are stuck in our straight 
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possible. 
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woman, I would. 
That sounds delightful to me. 

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Yeah, disappointing. 
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OK. 
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So with that disclaimer, we will
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Jason Johnson had to make an 
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get into naming what they are 
just because I feel like it's 

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helpful to hear. 
And yeah, as you hear them, you 

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might be like, isn't this one 
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one? 
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Is don't ask questions, Yeah, 
first. 

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Of all, don't ask questions. 
Gerber has made millions, if not

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more, off of the judge. 
It's based up of how much money 

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Gary has made. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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That's how we are in the year of
our Lord 2025. 

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This is how all things are 
judged is would Elon Musk want 

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to invest in it? 
Great. 

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So, Kay, you were going to jump 
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each of these love languages. 
So there's words of affirmation,

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acts of service, gifts, quality 
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Now we're going to go back and 
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of affirmation. 
SJ, you look great today in your

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overalls. 
Have I told you that? 

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And you are such a good Co host.
That is an example of awards of 

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affirmation. 
And there's studies showing that

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in case you don't have a 
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these to yourself. 
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somewhere and you feel like you 
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yourself esteem your confidence,
all those things. 

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Yeah, I look at my partner. 
I try to tell him you are a good

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man, be a good boy, yeah. 
Go touch me. 

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You're a. 
Very, very good boy and. 

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Then you walk him like a dog, 
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Sabrina Carpenter Yeah. 
I pet his head a little bit, and

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that's when I get into my 
physical touch. 

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Sabrina Carpenter picture of her
with a guy because you know what

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she said about it? 
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thing about the picture, and for
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it, it's her album cover. 
And the guy is standing up and 

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she's kind of looking like she 
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tugging her hair. 
Is that she's like, I am very 

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clearly. 
And there's no doubt of anybody 

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looking in that that picture 
that I am in control of the 

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situation and I'm enjoying it. 
I'm like, Sabrina, Yeah, acts of

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service, who? 
This is just where guys seem to 

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get in trouble because. 
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service doesn't even have to be 
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right? 
I don't know. 

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times when people think of 
examples of this, I'm also like 

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doing the bare minimum is not 
acts of service like just 

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participating in the household 
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I put the shoes on my daughter 
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Was that an active service? 
Yeah, exactly. 

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And this kind of feels like. 
So we recently for one of my 

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kids introduced the concept of 
allowance and, and that quickly 

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turned into and we tried to just
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this is something that you get 
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spending money of your own. 
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participating as a member of 
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chores that's. 
What you said here. 

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I did. 
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contracts, but then she like 
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to turn it into like, I just 
picked up the wrapper, my cheese

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stick and put it in the trash. 
Pay me $1.00, please. 

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sounds like for men that then 

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they'll like get this and 
they're like, oh, like acts of 

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service. 
Like I'm going to put my plate 

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in the dishwasher. 
Where's my blowjob? 

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Deep Throat me now, please. 
But but greater perceived 

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sharing of household tasks is 
associated with higher 

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relationship satisfaction and 
increased liking of 1's partner.

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Did we even need studies? 
Apparently? 

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We did though, just the same as 
we needed this dumb fucking book

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for some people just. 
Do things and then you might get

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more sex. 
You know, if you take the load 

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off your wife and so she's not 
super, super tired, she might be

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more interested in getting right
down there. 

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Who knows? 
Or not, because it might just 

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not be your thing or maybe you 
don't clean enough. 

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I don't know. 
Yeah, there may be so many other

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reasons which we'll get into on 
other episodes as well, yes. 

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And then gifts, you know, not 
just for birthdays, you can gift

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somebody a lot of different 
things. 

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You can go to a gas station and 
come out with a Gatorade that 

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might lead you to a road 
blowjob. 

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Just think about it right flavor
of Gatorade. 

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Well, I think when that first of
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we want to adhere to the five 
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gifts gets the like worst cuz it
is just like, oh, you're like 

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this materialistic person who 
like requires their partner to 

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buy them designer handbags and 
diamonds or something. 

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But I think it really is more 
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like the, Oh, I was thinking of 
you and I, I also feel like this

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is a hard one to do if it 
doesn't come to you naturally 

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like some of the other ones. 
It's like words of affirmation. 

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Like you can just like kind of 
practice it till you get good at

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it. 
But when you know the people in 

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your life, and I'm not just 
talking relation like romantic 

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relationships, the people who 
are really thoughtful gift 

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givers, it's always just like a 
very like that is impressive. 

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They just like pick up little 
things, whether it's for 

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birthdays or non particular 
occasions that it's just like 

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this like, oh, I was thinking of
you. 

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I saw this. 
I thought you would want it like

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something small. 
I type Divora just get stuck in 

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my head. 
I'm like, I think that person 

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would like that, but maybe they 
don't. 

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Maybe they would have already 
bought it for themselves. 

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Maybe. 
And then I did tell them and all

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of my like difficult 
relationship with stuff because 

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then I'm like, well, if they 
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like one more thing for them to 
have to like figure out and get 

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rid of. 
And I do really feel like that, 

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like with the gift giving 
language, like when it is just 

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this obligatory thing, 
especially around birthdays. 

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And you get that with kids 
birthdays. 

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But some families too just have 
this like very obligatory, like 

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every year on your birthday, 
like we have to get you a gift. 

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Like you have to get everyone 
Christmas gifts, like everyone, 

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you know, Christmas gifts. 
It does just really result in 

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this like it's like the opposite
of the intended thing. 

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Because then you get this thing 
that's like thoughtless or just 

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kind of like you're like, I 
don't know. 

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And then that makes you feel 
like the person maybe even knows

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you less than you thought. 
I get great gifts to my partner 

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so I feel like I do like gifty 
but I don't like. 

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I don't need gifts though. 
I just see it as one more way 

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that I'm like, you are such a 
sweetheart and you get me and 

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you look out for little things, 
but that's not I'm I will yes, 

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they were not good gift givers 
that I I. 

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This is totally true for my for 
my marriage. 

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I am an excellent gift giver. 
I will just own that about 

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myself because. 
Words of self affirmation. 

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Words of self affirmation I am a
great gift giver and I. 

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Am a lousy gift giver. 
Well one of my hacks is that I 

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just keep a note on my phone. 
This works especially well for 

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my husband, who is very 
forgetful and like, not very 

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thinks about stuff. 
So he'll tell me in in like, you

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know, July that he's like, I 
really want this cookbook. 

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And then like Christmas rolls 
around and I give him the 

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cookbook. 
He totally forgot that he asked 

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for it. 
So I mean, it works for anyone 

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to, like keep track of things 
that they mentioned that they 

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would like, but it works 
especially well for people who 

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forgot that they mentioned that 
thing. 

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And then he's like, this looks 
like such a cool cookbook. 

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Where did you find this? 
You told me, but you forgot and 

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I'm like you. 
Know you really well, and I 

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thought that you would be 
interested in it, but I do just,

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like, keep track of things that 
people mentioned to me that they

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want or need. 
And I just try to like, take 

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note of that. 
But it works. 

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Yeah. 
It'll really works on, like, 

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people that you spend a lot of 
time with. 

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But my husband, gift giving is 
not his love language. 

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And I think that that's one that
we figured out. 

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Yeah. 
That like, it's, it's kind of a 

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hard one to, like, fake it 
because he would try to, like, 

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buy me nice things. 
But then it's like, you know, 

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somebody buys you jewelry who 
doesn't really know your taste. 

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I don't. 
Want to wear that this? 

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Is why like gift giving is about
the thoughtfulness and not the 

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amount of money spent because 
then you could like buy a really

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expensive piece of jewelry. 
I don't think he's really done 

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that, but like he, I could see 
that having happened and then 

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you're like, oh cool, like a 
heart-shaped necklace. 

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And so I think that he's 
realized that it's a better act 

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of I don't know what kind of 
love language this is, but just 

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realizing that I would be much 
happier if you were like. 

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You should just go pick yourself
out some jewelry that you really

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like. 
And feel free go crazy with it 

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or you should take your daughter
to Disney World with your 

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friends. 
We also did that. 

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That was a great one. 
Myself there, but I don't know. 

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Yeah, so. 
Quality time. 

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I'm here to report an extremely 
groundbreaking study. 

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But first, just a basic 
description of quality time, you

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know, not just sitting and 
watching Netflix while you're 

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both on each other's, like, not 
each other's phones, but your 

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own individual phones. 
But actually, you know, the 

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solidly hanging out, maybe going
on a hike. 

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But I just love the study that I
found, which is in Contemporary 

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Family Therapy by Hogan in 2022.
And they looked at 49 couples. 

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And I'm so happy that they did 
this because they found that 

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couples that spent more time 
arguing per day were less 

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satisfied in their relationships
and couples who found a greater 

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time having positive 
conversations. 

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It's like, did that, did that 
have to be a study you? 

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Know again though, I I am. 
Learning that maybe it did a 

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reminder to men out there that 
if you are fighting, you might 

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have a low satisfaction in in 
your relationship and that leads

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to other things, physical touch.
Oh, I do want to say something 

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about quality time. 
This one was also a little bit 

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like, I was like, who who is 
like, this is not my love 

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language, right? 
Like who is in a relationship 

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with somebody? 
And then it's like, oh, but I 

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don't actually like any value 
from quality time until I was 

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doing my Reddit research and 
there were some people who 

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answered, there's a question 
that was like, what is your like

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non traditional love language? 
You know, like not one of the 

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Gary Chapman 5 love languages. 
And there were at least a couple

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of people on there who were like
being left alone, giving me my 

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space. 
I guess so I was thinking about 

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this and before my partner and I
lived with each other, I would 

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have said quality time like 
1000%, you know, time just the 

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two of us to hang out. 
We're either with groups of 

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friends, we're working, all 
these different things. 

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But now that I feel like we are 
together all the time, I still 

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want to be with him. 
I still like, love our time 

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together. 
But if I were to think about 

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like what I'm craving, it is 
not, I don't know, OK? 

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It's not at this with me. 
I'm not really. 

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Everything's working fine. 
Yeah. 

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And I think that after the 
pandemic when especially those 

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of us who are used to like our 
jobs, it we're mostly out of the

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house. 
And I think that there are a lot

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of us that since the pandemic 
we're just like home more. 

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That's definitely true for my 
husband and me. 

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And I guess I wouldn't say that 
it's my love language, but I do 

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crave. 
I don't get to watch stupid ROM 

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coms on Netflix. 
I don't I I watch YouTube videos

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of Warren Buffett at night 
sitting alongside my husband. 

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You should put headphones on and
then I suppose that is also a 

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love language is watching 2 
separate things on your phone 

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sitting side by side wearing 
headphones because sometimes you

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that. 
Your hand out. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
You can still be holding hands, 

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get that physical touch. 
I also think that there's maybe 

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a difference between like 
healthy boundary stuff where you

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need for yourself to exist as a 
human being within any kind of 

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relationship that's not actually
a love language. 

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And I was a little worried for 
people that they were asked that

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question and that was literally 
the first thing that came to 

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their mind. 
But reach out. 

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If that was you, we'd love to. 
Hear maybe it was B who knows I 

454
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,680
I love spending time maybe it 
was your husband I just want to 

455
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,080
be by myself with my old white 
man videos I'm. 

456
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,520
Gonna watch Warren buffeting 
without any fucking 

457
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,560
interruptions. 
I need to hear someone with a 

458
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,200
lot of wrinkles who is male 
listen talk about finance 

459
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,960
without my wife saying that this
is boring, can she please leave 

460
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,680
me alone? 
So physical touch, hugs, 

461
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,920
cuddles, you know, groping, make
it a little grab grab in there. 

462
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,160
So another super fun study that 
I thought I I don't want to do 

463
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,880
this too much because I have a 
feeling it was probably done by 

464
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,200
a student. 
It came out of UVA in 2024 but 

465
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,880
it looked at 5 total couples and
then it recruited 5 strangers 

466
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,480
and they found this is crazy 
that people like touches with 

467
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,000
their person where they're in a 
relationship more than the 

468
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,720
strangers. 
Can I know more about this 

469
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,520
study? 
It was there like a secret hand 

470
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,400
box and you like stick your hand
in the box and can't see who's 

471
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,320
on the other side of this like 
hand glory hole. 

472
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,080
Like they could see you're being
like. 

473
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,560
Touched by like a hand through 
the glory hole and you have to 

474
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,520
guess if it's your partner. 
Can I do that? 

475
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,560
Study it. 
Was like a very basic like non 

476
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,720
sexual wrist touch but they felt
like well the partners touch the

477
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,880
wrist in different ways and like
covered more surface area. 

478
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,320
And I'm like did you only do 5 
couples because you realized 

479
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,520
after 5 couples what on earth am
I doing? 

480
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,680
I didn't have. 
To do this, but thank you for 

481
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,640
keeping our podcast grounded in 
research. 

482
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,520
K this is important. 
Yeah, now you know those five 

483
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,520
couples. 
There's also kind of like super 

484
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,360
fun, cool ones that show how 
like your brave your brain 

485
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,080
wavelength like matches up with 
your partners. 

486
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,560
When you guys touch each other, 
it kind of like sings and 

487
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,240
becomes calm together. 
OK, yeah, I have heard a little 

488
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,520
about this where if you touch a 
stranger. 

489
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:23,360
Oh, so I also learned in my, you
know, good girls research 

490
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,880
division, the part time lab. 
Coat. 

491
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,760
So French and colleagues 
published a paper in 2019 on 

492
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,080
sociosexuality. 
Now you might be wondering at 

493
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,520
home, what does sociosexuality 
mean? 

494
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,320
It turns out this is a 
scientific word for swinging, 

495
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,040
which I just love. 
And it found that overall. 

496
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,400
So looked at 204 newlywed 
couples and it found that among 

497
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,200
those who swang or were 
sociosexual, that overall was 

498
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,640
there was a greater like 
decrease in satisfaction over 

499
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,840
time, but except for those who 
are having more frequent sex and

500
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,440
higher sexual satisfaction and 
low stress. 

501
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,680
So I just feel like, OK, so 
there's a portion of these 

502
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,320
people who are like super, super
like cool sex animals. 

503
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,400
And they're like, yeah, 
whatever, We're both having sex 

504
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,440
with other people. 
But I'm like low stress and I 

505
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,720
mean, awesome. 
I feel like there might be some 

506
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,640
drugs involved in that equation 
and they were able to keep up 

507
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,200
their happiness, but. 
Yeah. 

508
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,200
Is this like you are having more
sex overall or unless you're 

509
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:33,240
having frequent sex with each 
other as well, more sex? 

510
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,520
Oh. 
That's interesting. 

511
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,240
They just said more frequent 
sex, but they did not. 

512
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,600
Yeah, you're right. 
They could have just been 

513
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,720
increased if you just swing all 
the time, but then you're so 

514
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,880
happy. 
Yeah, if every single day you're

515
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,040
having sex with a different 
person. 

516
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,520
Especially if physical touch is 
your love life. 

517
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,480
If you are one of the people on 
Reddit whose love language is 

518
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,520
just blowjobs, then it does seem
like you should just have as 

519
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,800
many possible opportunities for 
blowjobs and it say as you can. 

520
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,080
Yeah. 
I mean, this is one that I've 

521
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,520
heard in general about the 
swinging culture and some of 

522
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,920
the, like, the parties and 
stuff. 

523
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,520
Is that like how it's portrayed 
on TV versus like, how it is in 

524
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,280
real life. 
And it's all like one of those 

525
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,560
reality shows that's like people
that are into doing interesting 

526
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,520
things. 
I forget what show it was, but 

527
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,080
basically that it was this 
younger couple that, like, 

528
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,520
wanted to try going to a sex 
party and they did. 

529
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,880
And it was all just like. 
Older you people, yeah, you 

530
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760
know, they're like, they're just
like, sexually. 

531
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,320
Freer. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

532
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,640
But it wasn't like, you know, 
one of these like, Basque 

533
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,600
parties from like, the sexy 
shows where like, everybody is 

534
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,080
rich and hot, totally rich. 
And like, yeah. 25 years old and

535
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,120
things like that. 
So they, I think that they like 

536
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,880
went to the party for a little 
bit and then they were like, OK.

537
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,560
Yeah, maybe I only wanted to be 
with you. 

538
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:55,320
I don't know, I I feel like I 
picture Kristen and Sandy on the

539
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,120
OC if anybody ever watch into 
the later scene. 

540
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:02,240
Yeah, with like the nice 
expensive watches on the table. 

541
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,040
Yeah, I'm like, I would go to 
that swing aim party seems very 

542
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,840
clean. 
Yeah, yeah. 

543
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,000
I don't think that we live in 
the right zip code for that K. 

544
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,480
Shucks, just kidding. 
Please don't contact. 

545
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,800
Too many of our leaders for. 
Watching them. 

546
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,680
Please do not. 
I'm not. 

547
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,240
Interested. 
Not actually interested in 

548
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,520
joining your watch party? 
You can never live up to my 

549
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,720
partner. 
Gentlemen. 

550
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,080
So there was another just funny 
story and this really doesn't 

551
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,360
belong anywhere but I wanted to 
share it. 

552
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,080
So I looked at 169 marriages 
over the 1st 18 months of 

553
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,200
marriage and they showed that 
there are significant changes in

554
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,800
personality over those 18 months
where men become slightly less 

555
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,400
agreeable and women become less 
like extroverted and there's 

556
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:54,040
declines and and openness. 
And that made me kind of sad. 

557
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,840
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

558
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,640
So maybe, yeah. 
Maybe that's why we have to be 

559
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,200
sociosexual. 
I don't know. 

560
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,960
I also think this reminds me of 
the study that it was like men 

561
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,440
who are married live longer but 
like women who are single are 

562
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,880
happier or something like that. 
But basically the theory being 

563
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,000
that, like, women hound their 
husbands into, like, doing basic

564
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,360
kinds of self-care, like 
scheduling doctor's appointments

565
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,440
until those men live longer. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

566
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,840
All the women in Jerry, in Jerry
Bear's books are just, like, 

567
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,800
running around after their 
husbands, picking up for them. 

568
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,480
And they're like acts of service
is my love language. 

569
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,680
They're actually, and they're 
also much more likely to stay 

570
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,720
when the partner gets a serious 
diagnosis and all that. 

571
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,560
But again, you know, we're 
trapped being straight. 

572
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,640
So we will accept our male 
partners and love them all the 

573
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,160
way. 
And this does not apply to our 

574
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,280
own male partners, but in 
general, just, you know, across 

575
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,600
the. 
Gender, yeah. 

576
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,520
So I guess the question is, does
it matter if love languages 

577
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,520
aren't real if they help us? 
Then. 

578
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,400
Clearly need them. 
And I think that it still comes 

579
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,320
up in like legitimate therapy 
contexts outside of the church, 

580
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,040
and not because anybody is 
recommending the book to people,

581
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,760
but just again, this kind of 
like conversation starter. 

582
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,000
The only thing is I just wish 
that acts of service, even 

583
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,080
though I do get that there's a 
difference, I wish that there 

584
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,040
was a way to like, just make it 
clear, like first make sure that

585
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,960
household tasks are equal and 
then we can start talking about 

586
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,480
acts of service. 
But if your acts of service are 

587
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,680
just you getting up to like 40% 
when your wife currently does 

588
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,040
like 70% and that's not. 
Yeah, yeah. 

589
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,360
Or just things around that are 
just sort of shared household 

590
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,320
tasks to begin with. 
Like I think one that is nice is

591
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,400
that I'm not a morning person 
and my husband is. 

592
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,000
And like that he will like make 
coffee and sometimes even bring 

593
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,720
me coffee upstairs if I'm 
particularly slow moving. 

594
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,200
And I feel like that is 
something that's not like part 

595
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,080
of the. 
Regular every single morning. 

596
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,480
No, I don't yell, but I'm like, 
I'm like, why can't you wake up 

597
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,960
at 7:00? 
So you're the morning person in 

598
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,520
your house. 
I'm the morning person and then 

599
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,880
being up in the morning just 
naturally leads to you doing 

600
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,760
more in the morning and so you 
know I'm a fighter you will get 

601
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,880
up for. 
Now I can be trying to get out 

602
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,360
of doing things in the morning, 
but having two kids has made 

603
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,360
that difficult for me and I am 
forced to live in a world born, 

604
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,960
born to be rolling around in bed
still at 10 AM, forced to be 

605
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,800
packing lunches. 
Have you seen the slither 

606
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,360
method? 
No, go on, you lie. 

607
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,360
Down in bed and then when it's 
like time to get up, like 

608
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,080
instead of thinking, oh wow, I 
have to like raise my head and 

609
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,840
get up and open my eyes, you 
just flop out. 

610
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,440
You literally like rise out of 
bed and you like crawl. 

611
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,040
I think it's like her name's 
Mel. 

612
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,400
She's an Instagram. 
She's like a six year old woman 

613
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,600
who helps you think about life. 
And there's a video and she's 

614
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,120
like a very well put together, 
like beautiful PJS, all that 6 

615
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,880
year old woman and she's just 
like. 

616
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,880
And now I rise. 
Yeah I know I haven't tried this

617
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,040
open really to trying anything. 
Currently my method is picking 

618
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,080
up my phone immediately, which I
hear the experts tell you is 

619
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,920
great and just immediately 
starting to scroll things. 

620
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,800
The experts say that if you go 
to any therapist, they'll be 

621
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,280
like just. 
Yeah, use your phone. 

622
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,120
Do. 
Yeah, and use your phone more 

623
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,240
and start earlier and then go 
later and do it till you fall 

624
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,400
asleep. 
And then when you wake up in the

625
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,160
middle of the night, then pick 
up your phone again. 

626
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,200
That's what they say. 
Think about how excited you are 

627
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,680
to see your kids and just hop 
right up. 

628
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,600
OK, so I asked my partner what 
he thought that my love language

629
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,000
was and he said, oh, you like 
gifting? 

630
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,400
And I said, no, that's like not 
even the case because I don't 

631
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,360
care at all that my parents 
don't give to me. 

632
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,680
I just like it that you gift 
because this is part of your 

633
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,720
curious, sweet personality. 
And he's like, he looks at me 

634
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,040
and he goes, You like the 
physical? 

635
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,400
And I asked would not approve 
but go on. 

636
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,040
He, he said that his favorite 
thing that I do is that when I 

637
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,400
walk up to him and I give him 
like a hug and I say that I love

638
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,840
him and I kiss him. 
I do, you know, one or two times

639
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,480
a day Cuz he's like, it's just 
that like natural, like you 

640
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,920
really genuinely mean it and you
really do love me. 

641
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,720
So I guess that would mean it's 
like words of affirmation plus 

642
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,720
physical touch. 
Yeah, this is what they're, 

643
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,920
they're very overlapping. 
So and that's why I also feel 

644
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,600
like it's just maybe more of a 
starting point because yeah, 

645
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,720
they're very overlapping. 
Some of these are very vague and

646
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,160
like things like acts of 
service, like changing an 

647
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,200
occasional diaper or not an act 
of service. 

648
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,760
So I think the word that you use
genuine is a big part of it 

649
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,600
because it's also just kind of 
like whatever it is, if it's 

650
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,120
coming from a genuine place and 
not, I mean, even look like 

651
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,800
words of affirmation, like if 
you were just like you are so 

652
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,920
special. 
Well, that and like to me the 

653
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,320
ultimate thing of love and it's 
nice that all the the rest of 

654
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,280
the things happen too, but it's 
like the other person seeing you

655
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,239
for who you are and like loving 
and embracing that whole self, 

656
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,040
if that makes sense. 
And I think that, you know, when

657
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,960
my partner is like, oh, like you
used to narrate porn and I love 

658
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,159
that about you. 
And I also think it's impressive

659
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,400
that you do that. 
It just makes me feel like they 

660
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,480
see me and that does it for me. 
That's a really good point and 

661
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,880
that's why this whole 
subcategory of the Internet with

662
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,360
people making jokes, we pulled 
some from from our Internet 

663
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,560
research lab. 
There are such examples as cat 

664
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,159
photos, head scratches, inside 
jokes, shit talking head. 

665
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,080
Scratches. 
Do you like head scratches? 

666
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,960
My gosh, I am like such a slut 
for them. 

667
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,040
I am miss mad. 
This is why I am part cat dog. 

668
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,000
I don't know. 
Check with Sabrina Carpenter. 

669
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,640
I don't. 
Yeah. 

670
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,960
OK. 
I didn't interrupt you, no. 

671
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,080
I find it very relaxing and if 
that is your kink or your love 

672
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,880
language, if you haven't been to
a Japanese head spa, you should 

673
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,880
totally go because it's just 
like that for two hours. 

674
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,640
I don't even get massages 
because I do not like people 

675
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,720
touching me, which is. 
Interesting that physical touch 

676
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:20,600
and see this is what I mean is 
that the broad 5 categories are 

677
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,200
trash because like for you that 
means very specific things. 

678
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,880
I only want my partner. 
Yeah, you have them. 

679
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,880
From right, exactly and like 
under what context and things 

680
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,200
like that. 
And so it's more that like 

681
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,120
intimacy of knowing exactly from
the other person what that is, 

682
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,880
that's acceptable, whether it's 
like head scratches, blowjobs, 

683
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,040
commenting and porn together, 
you know, any of those kinds of 

684
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,360
things. 
That that that is very 

685
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,960
important. 
One that I really liked was, and

686
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,880
I do do this for my husband, is 
remembering the names of people 

687
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,680
that I forgot and like 
whispering them when they're 

688
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,640
walking up or I do a lot of 
like, oh, hey, you know my 

689
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,600
friend Samantha, right, 
Samantha? 

690
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,400
Because you know him well enough
to know that he wishes that he 

691
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,960
knew the name, that he didn't 
remember it because of some 

692
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,480
reason that has nothing to do 
with his respect to the person. 

693
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,400
And so you're able to read that 
part of their personality. 

694
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,880
I know that they that they need 
that. 

695
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,600
It's like my partner sometimes 
knows that I'm on a roll and I'm

696
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,160
doing well. 
I don't really need that much 

697
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,320
help. 
But he knows that like on 

698
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,240
Saturday mornings, if I don't 
get my like, workout in, then I 

699
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,480
get frazzled. 
And so that's where the active 

700
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,440
service comes in of taking the 
kids away for as long as 

701
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,720
possible. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

702
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:39,000
So like, whatever you want to 
call it is the important thing. 

703
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,360
The last one on here was singing
karaoke. 

704
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:46,240
This is one of my love languages
and it is one it. 

705
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:49,000
Is not what I'm on. 
Do not get from my partner. 

706
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,520
Any compatible it would make us.
Love each other less if he did 

707
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,760
try to sing karaoke because 
singing is not one of his 

708
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,040
skills. 
So this is where I will also put

709
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,440
in a plug for and this is 
something that I think is kind 

710
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,520
of not talked about a lot in the
whole like Christian 

711
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,920
relationship advice mode of 
things. 

712
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,080
There's so much in that 
Christian dating advice kind of 

713
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,800
stuff about like your partner 
being your everything and that 

714
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,520
they like fulfill your every 
need and that like all of these 

715
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,720
love languages that you require 
have to be spoken by your 

716
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,800
partner. 
So it's a very good example of 

717
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,760
like, I love to sing karaoke. 
Would never ask my partner to do

718
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,920
it, would be uncomfortable if he
offered. 

719
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,880
And yeah, there are plenty of 
other people in my life that 

720
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,440
can. 
He could be a beautiful. 

721
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,160
Other hobbies, no. 
I've heard him sing. 

722
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,840
No, OK, no. 
My partner is not a bad singer 

723
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,560
and he plays the guitar and I 
feel bad but I don't appreciate 

724
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,800
those parts at all. 
He is well hung however. 

725
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,920
Woo Hoo. 
Huge alpha males like a tree 

726
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,720
trunk. 
Yes. 

727
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,520
We want to make sure that all of
our listeners know. 

728
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,640
So there's no, there's no, you 
know, you see him on the 

729
00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,480
streets. 
Just no. 

730
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,800
Wow. 
Huge. 

731
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,160
And there was this very cute 
story. 

732
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,920
A lot of the answers that I saw 
were just like 2 words. 

733
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,000
This one was this story from I 
think an older man that he was 

734
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,240
talking about how his wife had 
been a tango dancer for like had

735
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,640
been into dancing for years and 
years and loved to go out 

736
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,200
dancing. 
So his expression of love to her

737
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,280
was that he took lessons and 
learned how to tango dance and 

738
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,200
now they go out together all the
time. 

739
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,480
But he was just saying how it 
was this great opportunity for 

740
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,200
them both to appreciate each 
other. 

741
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,640
And I think that that's what I 
hear in a lot of these stories 

742
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,840
that like she appreciates him 
having taken the time to learn 

743
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,640
this thing just cuz it matters 
to her. 

744
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,520
But he was like, I love to go 
with her because she's so 

745
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,960
beautiful and she gets all 
dressed to the nines and I get 

746
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,440
to see her in her element. 
But he's like, but then I also 

747
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,880
feel like a really great partner
and he's like, and I'll go dance

748
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,160
like I get to like, you know, 
dance and enjoy myself. 

749
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,440
And he's like, also I feel like 
she walks away. 

750
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,000
He's like, cuz the men there are
so so and I'm the best looking 

751
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,520
man there and then she. 
I love the self-confidence. 

752
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,480
Yes, positive self affirmation. 
You go Reddit guy. 

753
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,760
Woo Hoo what was I going to say?
I feel like if you go back to 

754
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,280
even high school, how many high 
school girls have you are 

755
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,360
friends with any high school 
girls, then you might know that 

756
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,120
how they're asked to dances is a
big deal. 

757
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,640
And even if they have long 
standing boyfriends and it's 

758
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,560
very obvious they're going to go
to the dance, they need that 

759
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,880
kind of extra act that says, 
hey, I'm really interested in 

760
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,040
you and you're worth making this
elaborate sign or poster for. 

761
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,040
And you're going to get that 
little sign that I'd love, and 

762
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,080
I'm into you. 
Yeah, yeah. 

763
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,760
At the end of the day, I feel 
like, yeah, it's all about just 

764
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,600
saying like I see you and I get 
you and I really appreciate you 

765
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,200
for who you are. 
So if at the end of the day that

766
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,280
is what Gare bear, what 
conversation he sparked for us, 

767
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,920
then blessings to him and his 
multi book empire. 

768
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,520
Go Gare bear. 
Yeah, women do like sex. 

769
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:12,520
My my partner would literally 
say that that's like my love 

770
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,920
language. 
And actually, I have a distinct 

771
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,600
memory that when we were early 
on in our first months dating, 

772
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,600
he dropped me off after a movie.
And I was like, will you come 

773
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,760
into the house with me? 
No, I really need to go back and

774
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,440
do some work. 
And I was like, we might be 

775
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,200
incompatible as partners. 
He's. 

776
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,800
Like I need to go back into my 
bed and listen to Warren Buffett

777
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,680
videos. 
I I have some Warren studying to

778
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,160
do tonight. 
It's like you can't sit next to 

779
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,200
me in a movie theater and like 
lightly touch me for two hours. 

780
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,280
And I not think that we're going
to have some hanky panky 

781
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,800
afterwards, but that's that's 
just the way that he. 

782
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,320
Is love language for the ladies?
Listen up, Gare Bare. 

783
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Yeah, we also, my partner and I 
probably have the reverse 

784
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,200
relationship on that, that I'd 
be like, oh, what can I do to 

785
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,120
get my partner to have some more
sex with me? 

786
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,560
How do I know? 
He loves getting. 

787
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:06,680
He hasn't boomed me in a while. 
It's been 3 hours so to go back 

788
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,080
we always revisit some things 
discussed in our prior episodes 

789
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:16,320
before ending and Sex appeal was
an episode that generated a lot 

790
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,160
of conversation afterwards about
what is your thing that you see 

791
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,400
and you're like Yep that guy is 
hot, that guy fucks. 

792
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,400
And we found out from a listener
that hers is when a guy shuffles

793
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,680
cards, which I can see like when
they really know how to do like 

794
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,200
the cool like card shuffling. 
I, I see this one and I think 

795
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,640
that it really fits the criteria
of what we were asking that it's

796
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,840
like not an inherently like 
associated with hot guy thing on

797
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,000
its surface, but it's like 
something that just like raises 

798
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,080
a, a green flag sexually 
speaking. 

799
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,040
Although I will say potential 
overlap between really good at 

800
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,080
shuffling cards and magicians, 
but I've never been with a 

801
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,360
magician. 
Well magicians might be a 

802
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,320
smaller percentage of the 
population, so you might have a 

803
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,160
smaller chance of getting with a
magician than a guy who knows 

804
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,560
how to shuffle cards. 
And I have not looked into the 

805
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,520
numbers recently. 
I just thinking about Joel from 

806
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,920
Arrested Development. 
Joke. 

807
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,360
Yes. 
There's obviously a hot 

808
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,840
magician. 
I've seen them on America's Got 

809
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,720
Talent. 
Yeah, yeah, there are. 

810
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:28,960
There are hot magicians. 
I don't know that I want to be 

811
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,880
with a magician, though. 
I would say that for me, that is

812
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,720
probably something that if I saw
you doing magic, I would be less

813
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:39,120
interested in sex just because I
don't want that kind of I don't 

814
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,040
want somebody doing magical 
numbers on me when we are 

815
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,240
together. 
I think that most magicians 

816
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,680
would tell you that they're not 
going to bust out their magic 

817
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,320
tricks during slacks. 
You don't know that you've never

818
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,520
been with one either have. 
You. 

819
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,120
Yeah, I was having sex with 1 
and then also now I was just 

820
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,640
under the bed and I wasn't sure 
how. 

821
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,200
Exactly. 
Oh, I did hear a story about 

822
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,960
that one. 
So something this was son 

823
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,200
another great podcast, normal 
gossip. 

824
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,360
But there was one about that 
where he wasn't a magician, but 

825
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,560
they were like somehow in the 
apartment of like he was friends

826
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,080
with her brothers, with someone 
who was a magician. 

827
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,840
And there was like a magic trick
bed. 

828
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,720
I won't give away the ending, 
but you should listen to that 

829
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:22,320
podcast. 
I also like calling out other 

830
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:28,480
podcasts and then also on 
hottest biblical characters Kane

831
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,080
we overlooked Kane a. 
Classic. 

832
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,760
Bad boy. 
Yeah, it's classic bad boy. 

833
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,880
And the person said I think I 
can change him, you know, also 

834
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,240
older brother, apparently older 
brothers are hot, which is not 

835
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:44,200
personally a thing for me. 
I think being from a big family,

836
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,440
just like any brothers, I mean, 
I'm not interested in any of my 

837
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,160
brothers, but in terms of order,
order. 

838
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,960
Yeah, birth order. 
Oh, that should be a study that 

839
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,600
somebody should do. 
Impact on hotness. 

840
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Birth order and sex appeal. 
I think that middle children are

841
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,080
more likely to be comedians. 
And so that would probably be 

842
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,280
like the guys middle. 
Yeah, 4 out of seven, Yeah. 

843
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,520
I mean, I guess when you have 7 
kids in your family, there's a 

844
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,320
pretty good shot at being a 
middle child, so. 

845
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,680
I could also be considered the 
younger or the older of 

846
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,200
different bashes of kids 
depending on how you look at it.

847
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,840
Yeah. 
So to kind of go and conclude up

848
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:26,000
this episode, love languages 
scientifically based, I would 

849
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,080
say each individual element of 
this love languages is but the 

850
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,640
actual like science, as Garriger
put it out not, but that doesn't

851
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,560
mean that you shouldn't show 
some words of affirmation and 

852
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,720
leave us to. 
Yourself to us. 

853
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,640
Yes, but only. 
Only if we're great though. 

854
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,720
We can't take words of criticism
right now, unfortunately. 

855
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,960
Thank you so much. 
I do not need negative 

856
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,120
affirmation, but I thank you for
listening and I hope you have a 

857
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,720
great day.
