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Gordon, Gordon, send more house 
to. 

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Save the House. 
Welcome to the House. 

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Cast everybody. 
Special edition tonight, looking

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forward to having to a chat with
two absolute, absolute legends 

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of the club and Gav's on as 
well. 

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So Gav, let's have a little 
catch your power you when 

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cricket season finishes. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Well, good. 
Thank you, Jess. 

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Spend my time. 
Unfortunately we Matthew, but 

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not yet just going on. 
We're watching Super Clarence. 

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Yeah. 
Do you manage it? 

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I mean, it's different what's 
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anymore. 
But I used to get quite 

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depressed through the end of 
September and October and then 

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because of no cricket and not 
being down the club, but I did. 

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Were you? 
Still glad to watch Super 

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Clarkson, you know, still still 
still great and what have you 

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and still going into Sunday 
socials when I can. 

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So I still see, you know, 
everybody from the Cricket Club.

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But you know, some is obviously 
the best time of the year. 

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I think we'd all agree with 
that. 

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But but no, I don't mind a 
couple of pounds after after 

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telephone that covert we stand 
in Paul and Aggers Dave Bridal. 

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Now that's a good crack. 
Yeah, yeah, it's it's and it 

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keeps you, keeps you active, 
done it and gets you out having 

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that that socials well. 
Good end to the season. 

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I thought Gav the obviously we 
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it was and then continue with 
that form. 

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I mean, we're I'm thinking of 
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quality of the side and, you 
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with sides gone by. 
I know it's difficult to do 

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that, but can you think of a 
better side in the Language 

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League and. 
No, absolutely not. 

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In 20 years. 
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Can't speak, can't lie. 
And you look how you look at the

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league table and you look at the
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We've not scraped by even by a 
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odd win. 
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with the league. 
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but I can't remember one team 
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know, Ben and the Ben and the 
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ever surprised, you know, And I 
know that they are, but no, 

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absolutely dominated it. 
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From pretty much halfway through
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just Marvel asked everybody 
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Yeah, and it was, you know, it 
was great cricket to watch. 

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I suppose we we've already 
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we're going to plan to do at a 
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we'll not go on much more. 
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the cricket was to watch. 
You know, going you look back at

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Haslington teams in the 90s and 
before that. 

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You know the backup teams, you 
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Yeah, yeah, you. 
Know they regret that, weren't 

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they? 
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Lower Ice team, there's so many,
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we're batting a bowl and if 
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there's, there's 11 lads. 
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You know, when we're bowling, 
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really matter. 
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Yeah, it is. 
It's it has, it's been a 

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fantastic season, but let's 
let's move on. 

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Gav, we've got, like I said, a 
special edition this evening. 

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It's what, you know, it's once 
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apologies for this, that we're 
trying to promote some charities

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and fundraising, which are all 
relatively local but are are 

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being carried out by good local 
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So we've got Matthew and, and 
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We're going to talk through, you
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cricket and then we're going to 
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that's very close to to Matthew 
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and promote it and talk about 
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So first of all, Matt Stanley, 
welcome on. 

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How are you doing? 
Very good. 

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Thank you. 
Good evening, Jess. 

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Good evening, Gavin. 
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that season, I bet, Stanley, 
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you and the, you know, the other
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committees that are around 
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You you've no complaints over 
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Douglas Lewis. 
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It, it makes it all worthwhile 
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the second team, some of the 
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fourth teams as well, especially
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is was exceptional. 
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further down on that, lots of 
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very successful and there's some
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through. 
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talking then and obviously 
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another night, but you said 
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dominated the other thing. 
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in 2014 with Corbis and Matt 
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exceptional. 
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collective point of view and a 
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was a few more gimmes that year 
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Weak teams, poor teams. 
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now there are no gimmes in every
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You've got to be on it or you, 
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It is, it's strong. 
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at, you know, it's a good point 
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what an outstanding cricket tree
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And that's not the detriment of 
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the moment. 
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were as strong then in all the 
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at the moment. 
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dissect it. 
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that over the winter. 
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to to move on to your missus 
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known her for donkey. 
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club with you, the start of the 
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and Gavin Muss and Charlie and 
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other, you know, the other lads 
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section. 
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from that period. 
Always good fun, always a real 

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strong character, you know, very
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And you know, we'll chat and 
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the ground and and I've got 
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So Adele, I really appreciate 
you coming on. 

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Thanks very much. 
How are you doing? 

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I'm. 
All right. 

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Thank you. 
How are you? 

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Yeah. 
Oh, good. 

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Thanks. 
Yeah, doing a few bits and bats 

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with the grandkids and what have
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But no, it's all, it's all 
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and I'm wondering, I mean the 
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Couple years I've been doing my 
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spend a bit more time obviously 
studying, but I finished that 

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last year so I've had more time 
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sound really old, but I remember
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people of the past, the the 
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can see, you can see the 
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You know, you look at, you know,
my kids, you look at your two 

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girls and you look how people 
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everywhere. 
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you and that Stella corner seems
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I don't know what's going on 
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You're pushing us out. 
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know, but there's more per 
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Yeah, there, I bet you I bet 
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gone through down there. 
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afternoon. 
I know, I bet, I bet. 

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So it's, I think, you know, it 
is clearly a serious topic we're

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going to talk about. 
We're going to talk about it as 

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better we can as to the, the 
different stages throughout your

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lives you've come through and 
how you came across and managed 

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through those periods and where 
you are now with, with 

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fundraising. 
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had a little bit of liaison 
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didn't realise so, so you met 
Matthew in 97. 

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You can see from my research. 
Just tell us about that, What 

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happened there? 
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college and we both had an 
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up on Farrington Road, just off 
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that's where we met. 
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Fantastic. 
In March and then that went out 

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with him in July. 
Yeah, fantastic. 

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And, and you've always been, you
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pair of you, you know, a great 
couple. 

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And you know, at that time, I 
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and the likes of Charlie and 
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think there's another 5 or 6 of 
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camaraderie between you all, 
even at that young age, Gav. 

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I mean, cash yourself back to 
97. 

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You know, you're getting out 
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You had a great life then and 
got a good time. 

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It's not that you don't know, 
but. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
Yeah. 

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You know, we all knocked around,
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and we all played cricket in 
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We were, you know, up to all 
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But you know, I remember when 
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thought it was going to be his 
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I. 
Think I'm out of there now? 

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Well, yeah, absolutely. 
Yeah. 

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In that way you. 
Know we're all expecting him to 

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have a carer or something like 
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aside, it just, you know, we 
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didn't we? 
The summer I love and all that, 

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when you know, it was just a 
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involved and cricket almost got 
it where really. 

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Yeah, and I suppose that's where
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know, you were all, you know, 
Burnley football fans, but as 

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well as that you were playing 
cricket and practising and 

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training and everything. 
So to get down at the weekends 

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in the summer, you know, it was 
good sports. 

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Your memories marked going back 
to 97 when you first met and 

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then moving on to getting 
engaged and getting getting your

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first house in 2002. 
Yeah, and I'll always tell you 

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that I remember key dates in 
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but I'm not there. 
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something. 
I'll say, Oh yeah, Burnley won 

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two mil at call out day. 
After that she finds it a bit 

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bit bizarre that I remember 
things based on that. 

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But yeah, that that summer, 
obviously it was the Coriolan 

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years from, from a Cricket Club 
point of view as well. 

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But it wasn't just us. 
There was Charlie and Louise got

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together that summer and and we 
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living in each other's pockets. 
If, if one's set of parents were

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on holiday, the others were on 
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So we literally surfaced off 
and, and slept in each other's 

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houses for, for a full summer. 
The most of it, Mana Barn on a 

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Wednesday, Panama's on a 
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VIP was all you can drink for £7
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So yeah, there was a great, 
great times, great times. 

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It isn't, you know, like you 
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bit older than you guys, but it 
was so much fun watching you and

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seeing you all develop as people
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world as well. 
So things move on. 

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As I said, you get your house, 
you get engaged in 2002 and then

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you get married in Cyprus with 
some, you know, some friends and

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family there in 2568. 
So over just over 20 years ago. 

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Congratulations 20 year 
anniversary. 

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On the sporting occasions, Jess 
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He is again. 
We got engaged the day after 

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David Beckham's penalty winner 
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Right. 
Good, good lad. 

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So I think, I think I was still 
buoyed by by that in the 2002 

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World Cup. 
So yeah, and then the night 

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before we got married, it was 
the Liverpool AC Mohan, great 

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comeback in Istanbul, you know, 
the one where there were three 

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no down and 333. 
And then did they win on 

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penalties in the end? 
That wasn't before we got 

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married. 
But yeah, I don't she's wrong. 

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I don't remember things about 
great sporting occasions at all.

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No, I think what's wrong with 
that? 

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It's it's being able to remember
stuff like that and link it 

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together. 
It's no, it's good on you. 

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It's good on you. 
That. 

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So your first house you bought 
in 2002, was that the one on 

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Roselle Road or did you have one
before that? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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So that was obviously opposite 
my brother's Nicky's house. 

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So it was almost, we got to, you
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other away from cricket as well,
whether it were a BBQ Nikki's 

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or, or bump, you know, meeting 
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the pub. 
So then you know, it's 

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constantly has all been together
as a, you know, as a community 

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club, as a Cricket Club and, 
and, and all your friends and 

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everything. 
And then you're married in 2005.

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Yeah, Nikki's, Nikki's 
barbecues. 

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Yeah. 
Throwing sausages into the old 

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box on and stuff like that. 
Yeah, slipping on the deck in. 

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Yeah, I remember that one 
burning the rice. 

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Absolutely chaos. 
The old thing to me didn't there

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go on, Gav. 
Then gin and tonics was. 

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I think I can still taste that 
last gin and tonic I had bloody 

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strongly. 
I'll bet you want Yeah. 

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Cheers, isn't it? 
I think I was chasing Corby 

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around where you pretend sword. 
I can't remember that bit. 

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Nikki was in charge of cooking 
and it rather than test it, he 

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literally he'd sort of bite into
it. 

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No, it's not cooked. 
And then was it over the wall, 

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into the whole box or money? 
Yeah, and wonder why I was sick 

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the following day. 
It is funny you say that, Adele,

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because we had a lot of the 
memories of you, you know, you 

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younger ones, even whether you 
were 16 or 26, I don't know, 

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seem to be around barbecues. 
You know, we had that, Well, 

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we'll see if I can say one of 
them, but we had that massive 

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BBQ down at the club. 
Ryan was there, Ryan Harrison, 

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we had that. 
We got the, it wasn't the fire 

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brigade. 
It was somebody who pretended 

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there was a fire brigade and 
filled up the swim, the outdoor 

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swimming pool. 
And Nikki completely tore his 

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hamstring sliding down that that
slippery slope that dealt 

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constantly was sliding down with
fairy liquid on. 

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And then there was the other one
at Matt's, weren't there? 

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It, were it? 
Were mint sauce. 

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It were Adam's from Adam's kit 
bag. 

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Yeah, it was, yeah. 
Yeah, that's right. 

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Yeah. 
And then the other one where the

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the sausage kept appear in from 
different places. 

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So we were that was that was at 
Matt's. 

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But no really good memories and 
it's good. 

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I think it's quite you know, the
clubs will have this. 

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I understand that, but I think 
it's lovely to see and that, you

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know, there's still all those 
people still going down, you 

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know, 30 years later if your 
era, you know, long may continue

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so you've. 
We were the club, weren't we? 

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It's a lot different now, Yeah, 
yeah. 

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But that that sort of group of 
friends and, and everything 

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literally were the club in one 
way or another, because it was a

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time when we work in the bar and
we're doing all those kind of 

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things. 
Any social event was was 

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literally yours, wasn't it? 
So it's, it's a completely 

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different animal these days. 
But yeah. 

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Basically, yeah, yeah, basically
it plays and their families, you

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know, their wives and kids, 
That's that's, you know, that's 

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fundamental. 
What it were, weren't it? 

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Yeah, I'm just, I'm just trying 
to throw myself back to it. 

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And when, so why? 
Why did you lot as a really 

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young group have to help out to 
keep the club going? 

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And but I suppose that was the 
Lofty's era, which were a really

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good side and socially good set 
of people. 

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But they really moved on, didn't
they? 

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I suppose. 
And when you look at that 

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bigger, the people who wouldn't 
have been in the 70s, there was 

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a big gap. 
You know, there was me, Blaze 

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and then not many others in that
decade after it. 

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And then you lock him probably a
decade and 1/2 after, and I 

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suppose you were, you're almost 
like sending kids up chimneys. 

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You've got, you know, this 
club's going to go bust unless, 

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unless you work behind the bar 
or unless you, you. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Well, yeah. 

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The tea room. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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It's fascinating when you can 
look back in it and and where we

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are now and where it was for 20 
years before that, you know, 

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really on its backside. 
So things developed, cricket was

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good, we were moving on, 
progressing. 

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You know, Rennes was doing a 
sterling job getting the pros 

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that we got. 
The amateurs, you know, we're 

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probably a couple of players 
short to really compete in the 

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top half, but the cricket looks 
after itself. 

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So then we move on to, you know,
the reason why we want to do 

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this podcast. 
In February 20, 2007, Adele, you

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found you'd fallen pregnant and 
you were, you know, two years 

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after you've got married, 
everything's really looking 

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rosy. 
Are you happy just to talk 

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through that short period or do 
you want me to talk you through 

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it? 
Yeah, I'm happy to go through 

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it. 
Yeah. 

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So we were felt felt pregnant in
February 2007 and it seemed to 

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be a very steady pregnancy. 
Yeah, you know, maybe we're 

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going really well and obviously 
we've been type 1 diabetic. 

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There were a chance of having a 
big baby. 

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But you know, they're quite, 
you're quite good at monitors, 

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weren't there? 
Really. 

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We were there quite often, lots 
of scams and lots of check UPS. 

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And then there was a period 
where I kind of started in 

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labour but it was quite a bit 
too early. 

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So they stopped the they stopped
the contraction. 

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So that will add the 10th of 
September wasn't it, Remember it

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being Paul's birthday? 
So everything were OK, went back

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home. 
Then a few weeks later I went 

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for another check up and that's 
unfortunately where they didn't,

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they couldn't find his 
heartbeat. 

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So obviously that were really 
tricky time. 

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They sent us up to hospital just
to obviously go and have a 

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further test. 
Well me and my mum went up to 

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the hospital, I drove up to the 
hospital then Stanley was 

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working in Manchester at the 
time so he had to get his get 

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his way to to the hospital. 
Charlie. 

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Came and got me. 
Yeah, Charlie was involved there

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as well. 
Obviously we told our close 

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friends and that's where it was 
confirmed that it, unfortunately

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it died. 
Very traumatic experience. 

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We didn't really know how to 
feel. 

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You still don't know how to feel
now really. 

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It's a bit Norman. 
It's just the process that 

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you've got to kind of deal with.
But there's no right way or no 

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wrong way of dealing with it. 
And then the, the hospital said,

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oh, you can go home and come 
back in a couple of days and I 

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will, I don't want to go home. 
I want to have this baby. 

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And then we'll find out because 
we didn't know if it were your 

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girl. 
We didn't know the sex or 

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anything. 
We didn't. 

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We didn't really have a proper 
name. 

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So anyway, after two days of 
labour Harry was born. 

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He was a big bruise, he was 
£9.10 and he was 56 centimetres 

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long. 
So he was a big baby and we, 

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this is when we got the Sands 
Room, which is about my sponsor,

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what I'm doing. 
I have actually got the T-shirt 

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on. 
I have been for everyone today. 

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I'm. 
Nearly there. 

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So the hospital then provided 
this family room, which was 

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funded through Sands, and this 
is where we could just spend a 

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bit of time together, a bit of 
time with Harry, just to kind of

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process everything really, 
wasn't it? 

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Yeah, so it was like a little 
self-contained flat in the 

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hospital with everything that 
you'd need to sort of live your 

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life normally, kick chain 
everything, all the sort of 

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facilities you need day-to-day. 
It allowed family to come in and

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visit us and spend time with us,
all that kind of thing. 

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And we stayed there for a few 
days until then. 

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They come in, take the baby away
for post mortem and things like 

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that. 
We did get a chaplain. 

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A chaplain came in and blessed 
him as well. 

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Not so, not necessarily. 
We are really religious, but we 

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do. 
We always have. 

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I've been quite religious on all
my life studies. 

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Not really, but we just felt it 
was a nice right thing to do for

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Hammy really. 
So we got interest and then 

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that's when they took him to 
Manchester Hospital to find out 

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what what had happened. 
Oh, crack it all. 

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It's, I mean, that's really 
brave. 

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It's so good that you're putting
this out there and we'll talk 

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about the charity in a minute, 
but this any, this conversation 

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could help one person, it could 
help 100 people. 

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And I think that's the the real 
reason for his doing things like

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this, you know, So Harry, 3737 
weeks you've, you know, you've, 

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you've had that pregnancy. 
You know, he's obviously it's a 

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horrendous time for you. 
How old would you to have been 

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then? 
Sorry, I should know this 20. 7.

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Yeah, OK. 
So, so you're both in your, your

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mid 20s, your family are all 
around you. 

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But I mean, and I know Gavil 
were the same. 

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And I'll come to you in a 
minute, Gav, just to see what 

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your memories are and what your 
thoughts are on this. 

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Because I think it's important 
we talk about it. 

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But I can't even start to begin 
to think what you must have been

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feeling and what your mum and 
dad was and what Maureen was 

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feeling. 
You know, and you're, you're 

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grieving for this, you know, for
this little baby. 

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You've never seen anything like 
this before or felt anything 

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like it. 
And the, I'm guessing your 

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family don't know what to do 
with you and you don't know what

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to do with your family. 
Can you, can you remember this 

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gal when it was happening? 
Obviously you can remember it 

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And, and I could, but I, I 
didn't realise the detail that 

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that Adele's just gone into what
what's your thoughts and 

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comments around that? 
Yeah, you know, everyone, 

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everyone so excited, you know, 
for for Matthew and Adele and 

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just so pleased, you know, 
because, you know, I mean, I 

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know I'm biassed, but we're all 
biassed. 

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But, you know, they meet great 
mates. 

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But you know, the great people, 
you know, and you know, the 

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great parents to Ruby and 
Isabel, but they were just so 

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exciting, so looking forward to 
it, you know, we knew that 

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they'd be great parents. 
So and to see your close friends

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sort of go through that and 
after, you know, you know, you 

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don't think about yourself, you 
know, you're thinking of you're 

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thinking of Matthew and Adele. 
But it was heartbreaking for 

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them, you know, but the way that
Matthew and Adele sort of 

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conducted the salary and, you 
know, with the, you know, both 

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come from great families, that's
important to say, supportive 

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families. 
And they have a very close 

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network of of friends. 
But the way they sort of got 

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through that, you know, you've 
got to have nothing but, you 

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know, the utmost respect for for
them both, you know, it's just 

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such an incredibly difficult 
time. 

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Yeah, honey, you know, we could.
Yeah. 

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I don't mind talking about 
things like this now. 

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I used to really struggle with 
it. 

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But the way you've been Adele 
gives you strength. 

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And, you know, and I know 
Matthew is there for you. 

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And then everyone's there for 
you both and. 

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And it. 
And it is like I said, I can't 

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even begin to think. 
I've never had anything anywhere

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near the tragic, you know, as 
tragic as that. 

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And at the time you mentioned 
about a self-contained flat or 

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apartment or unit and that it 
was through the charity Sounds 

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was it, which was at the 
hospital. 

448
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,120
Yeah, you won't even know it 
with that. 

449
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:20,520
Just it was literally at the 
bottom of one of the stairwells 

450
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,520
in the near the maternity. 
Yeah. 

451
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:31,160
Edith Watson and, and we, we got
told about it and said, look, 

452
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,560
you can, you can go and stay in 
there. 

453
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,280
And we said, yeah, that's fine. 
Because look, in things like 

454
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,600
maternity units, life goes on, 
doesn't it? 

455
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,040
In a way they've got to, they've
got to move on. 

456
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,840
They've got, they've got people 
coming in. 

457
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,080
So we did that. 
And I think probably the worst 

458
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,960
or the hardest thing to do, I 
suppose, after something like 

459
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,920
that's happened, if you think 
about when you're having a child

460
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,080
and people who obviously you've 
had kids, jazz and whatever. 

461
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,200
Yeah, everything at home is 
ready for that when that child 

462
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,760
arrives, isn't it? 
So when you go there and then 

463
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:10,080
you you're going home without 
it, it's so to to sort of be 

464
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,040
given that opportunity to spend 
that time there with family and 

465
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,560
everything before you have to do
that. 

466
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,840
It's huge for us. 
Massive. 

467
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,880
I bet, I bet, you know, you 
mentioned another point there 

468
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,320
and I suppose that gives a 
little bit of time for your 

469
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,480
family to be around you and for 
them to get the head round it. 

470
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,840
And then how you're going to 
deal with the, you know, I 

471
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,560
always look at short and medium 
and long term plans. 

472
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,840
So the short term plans, yeah, 
you're right Stana. 

473
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,960
You know, to get your house into
some sort of order for when you 

474
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,280
both have to go back. 
It's kind of one day at a time, 

475
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,320
wasn't it really? 
I didn't want anything to happen

476
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,440
to his nursery. 
Just leave everything as it is 

477
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,240
and I will deal with that when 
when we are ready. 

478
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,760
We didn't want. 
But no, some families decide 

479
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,600
it's the best thing to take 
everything away. 

480
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,600
I. 
Didn't want that. 

481
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,480
How we wanted to deal deal with 
it at that time. 

482
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,440
Yeah. 
How you want? 

483
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,240
Absolutely, yeah, it's an 
individual choice and, and how 

484
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,640
you feel about it. 
But to be making your choices 

485
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,640
and and again, Adele, you've 
been very brave there saying one

486
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,080
day at a time. 
You know, I bet you're 

487
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,560
struggling or at the time to to 
deal with 10 minutes at a time, 

488
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,600
you know what is going to happen
in the next, you know, short 

489
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,160
period of that. 
So it's sounding like just 

490
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,600
because of that room and the 
charity is there. 

491
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,080
And again, Adele, you've helped 
me out to your big style. 

492
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,800
So Sans it was founded in 78 by 
in 1978 by a small group of 

493
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,640
bereaved parents that wanted to 
bring something together. 

494
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,800
You've clearly got a real soft, 
soft spot for them. 

495
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,000
It's 18 years ago. 
You're still raising money for 

496
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,880
that charity. 
Have you kept in touch with the 

497
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,120
charity since then and kept your
eye out for fundraising 

498
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,520
occasions? 
I do follow them on like 

499
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,040
Facebook and social media and 
Instagram and things and they're

500
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,000
always, they're always doing 
fundraisers. 

501
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:14,000
It is baby Awareness Week next 
probably. 

502
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,280
I think it's from the 9th of 
October till the week after and 

503
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,120
it's always the week after 
Harry's birthday. 

504
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,120
But last October or the October 
before, I did a walk, so I did 

505
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:27,680
another charity thing where I 
did 100K. 

506
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,240
We just walk in that time not 
running with Louis. 

507
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,240
So Louis was fully involved in 
that as well. 

508
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,240
There was the dog by the. 
Way. 

509
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,040
Louis the dog, if those people 
don't know. 

510
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,480
Yeah. 
But I mean, it's just a great 

511
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,880
charity that support families 
who go through this, you know, 

512
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,120
tragic event. 
But there's a link between the 

513
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Sands at the hospital and 
Christchurch in Nelson. 

514
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,400
It's a local church that you can
go to for a baby remembrance 

515
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,640
every year. 
And that's where family, you do 

516
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,240
see the same families every 
year. 

517
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,760
And every now and again suddenly
you do get new parents. 

518
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,680
But it's just a time to come 
together and just, you know, 

519
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,360
have a bit of reflection and all
that. 

520
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,120
You've got support of somebody 
else. 

521
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,720
They know exactly what you've 
been through. 

522
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,360
Yeah. 
And again, as we've, as we've 

523
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,200
said, we've said earlier, you 
know, the reason for doing this 

524
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,880
is just to try and help one 
person or or 1000 people, Adele,

525
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,280
a way of, you know, sponsoring 
you or contributing to the 

526
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560
charity. 
And we will do this again at the

527
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,160
end. 
Can you give us, is there a 

528
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,880
link? 
Is is there anything that you 

529
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,720
could share with people, give 
them something on here or is or 

530
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,160
is it better off if we do that 
on the the low race website and 

531
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,320
the house cast? 
I don't know, I think I've put 

532
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640
AQR code on there. 
It's a little bit further down. 

533
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,240
OK. 
I don't know if you can share 

534
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,000
that. 
Yeah, I've got it. 

535
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Yeah. 
And I think I'm about 420 lbs so

536
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,440
far, and I've got one more day, 
one more run to do. 

537
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,880
So tell us what what? 
Tell us what you've been doing. 

538
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,280
What what gave you the idea to 
do this all these kilometres? 

539
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,960
Well, I don't know if you know. 
Well, I know you know about it. 

540
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,040
Jazz and Gav obviously does. 
In March I ended up being in 

541
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,600
hospital with meningitis. 
I'm in hospital for 22 days and 

542
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,040
it really knocked me for six. 
I weren't in a good place 

543
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,440
really, was there. 
So it popped up in August time 

544
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,400
on Facebook, run 50K in 
September and I thought I need 

545
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,200
to get myself fit again. 
And it's a great, which is 

546
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,000
obviously close to my heart. 
So a bit of a challenge for 

547
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,040
myself as well to keep myself 
to, you know, get fit again and 

548
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,280
raise really important money for
all the families. 

549
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,680
Yeah, and that is 50K over the 
the month of September. 

550
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,040
So tell us how that went at the 
start. 

551
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Difficult with getting the old 
blisters though. 

552
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,640
How have you managed it? 
The first one, I think, I think 

553
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,080
the first one probably the best 
one. 

554
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,200
What I did, I think we're just 
like, right, just go for it. 

555
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,960
And I just I just ran. 
I think I already did like 3 1/2

556
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,800
K. 
But to say I've not done any 

557
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,400
proper exercise since January. 
It looked pretty good really. 

558
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,160
And I did just under 7K on 
Saturday. 

559
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,000
Obviously when you're running, 
you're reflecting constantly. 

560
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,080
Yeah, yeah. 
And always, I always found this 

561
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,120
time of year difficult anyway. 
If you to have his birthday on 

562
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,160
the day and a few days 
afterwards and it's just you 

563
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,320
know it, it gives you that push 
to do it. 

564
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:57,680
Yeah, yeah. 
I've got, I've got 2 kilometres,

565
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,200
I've done a three 3.5 tonight 
and I've just got 2 to do 

566
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,560
tomorrow. 
So I will probably do a bit 

567
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:09,000
longer just to and then. 
You've done your 50 kilometres. 

568
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,840
I'm assuming you've you've 
created a finishing pork Danny 

569
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,000
and a fit for a Delta run 
through. 

570
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,080
Yeah, yeah, of course. 
Bottle of champagne it'll. 

571
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,320
Be on the back. 
Street brilliant. 

572
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,760
We've done, we've done other 
things as well. 

573
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,600
Obvious Gap was actually 
involved in one of them. 

574
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,280
We did the Loch Ness Challenge, 
so that was the the sort of 

575
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,680
group of my friends that did 
that, which was basically a 

576
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,080
duathlon, so cycling and 
running. 

577
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,800
Gavin absolutely loved doing 
that. 

578
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,760
Didn't you know? 
Training for it and Garden's 

579
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,880
background? 
Loch Ness. 

580
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,520
I think I just finished last 
week. 

581
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,240
That way in 2008, Gav. 
This is no word of Elijah as 

582
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,160
well. 
So we turn up on the on the 

583
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:05,000
first day to to do it. 
And there are loads of teams 

584
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,080
there, celebrities and things 
like that. 

585
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,760
So you've got Gavin Hastings 
that will be a player, Nel 

586
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,080
Mcandrew. 
Is she called Nel Mcandrew, the 

587
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:18,920
model from Bolton. 
And then you add Liz Mccolgan in

588
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,680
a team. 
And the Brownlee brothers also 

589
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,560
formed part of another team. 
So yeah. 

590
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,760
You'll be surprised to know that
we didn't win, but we give it 

591
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,440
our best shot. 
We give it our best shot. 

592
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,440
But yeah, and, and, and again, 
we did that. 

593
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,240
We did, we did music and things 
like that. 

594
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,200
Now back when we did that, there
was a very sort of local aspect 

595
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,080
to the the charity that 
unfortunately, because the way 

596
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,760
that these charities evolve all 
the time doesn't sort of exist 

597
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,240
anymore, unfortunately. 
But when we did that, we 

598
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,040
literally, I think we raised 
about £1000 at the time. 

599
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,320
And we did that specifically for
helping to refurb that room at 

600
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,680
the hospital. 
So new equipment, new things 

601
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,000
like that to go in there. 
So yeah, so it's and then 

602
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,360
obviously Adele's carried it on 
with various things 

603
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,760
subsequently. 
Yeah, yeah. 

604
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,840
Take care runs as well. 
Adele's done in between time, 

605
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,800
so. 
Yeah, it is. 

606
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,120
It's I mean it's outstanding the
the work that that you do and 

607
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,320
you know, and, and also what 
Sam's do. 

608
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,520
So please people who are 
listening first and foremost is,

609
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,400
you know, if you're aware of of 
anyone going through difficult 

610
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,360
time like this and that that 
remind them that Sam's is there.

611
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,719
And I'm, and I'm sure that you 
know that people listening will,

612
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,080
will recognise or know someone 
who's been through this. 

613
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,040
So let's try and as raise as 
much as we can through the 

614
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,199
podcast and, and help Adele to 
get there. 

615
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:56,480
See if we get up to to 700 or 
even 1000 lbs before she 

616
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,800
finishes tomorrow on the last 
two kilometres. 

617
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,000
Yes, I can also give you the 
link for the helpline if there 

618
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,480
is anybody who is struggling at 
the minute. 

619
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:06,560
Oh, brilliant. 
Yeah. 

620
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,480
Yeah, if you can do and also 
please, you know, vast majority 

621
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,120
of people on Facebook have a 
look at Adele's page. 

622
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,080
She does put some material on 
there which will give you links 

623
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,120
and give updates if you look 
back at the previous call. 

624
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,600
So you can get from on there. 
But we'll put them on the on the

625
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,000
lower house website and on 
Twitter and everywhere else so 

626
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:34,720
we can so, so moving from there,
we go to 2009. 

627
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,280
Well, I don't know what when you
first found out that you found 

628
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,280
out you were pregnant, in fact. 
Do you know what we're doing? 

629
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,720
It's just come to me now, jazz. 
We're actually at of Sam's 

630
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:51,400
fundraiser, Shasta Shasta with 
the band You Remember. 

631
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,400
Yeah, yeah. 
And I was actually pregnant with

632
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,720
the girls and I didn't know. 
I had a great night. 

633
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,320
We'd had a few sherbets that 
night, but I didn't know I was 

634
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,840
pregnant. 
You didn't know you were 

635
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,840
pregnant. 
So and then so you don't know 

636
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,200
you're pregnant. 
Then you find out you're 

637
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,440
pregnant and lo and behold, they
tell you that it's twins. 

638
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,600
I mean, how you know it? 
We scared. 

639
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,840
We. 
Panicked. 

640
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,760
We didn't. 
We didn't really know how to 

641
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,120
react, I laughed. 
I. 

642
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,440
Was just like what, twins? 
Yeah, a bit a bit overwhelmed. 

643
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,400
Really worked with a bit of a 
shock to system. 

644
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:38,080
I'd I'd clocked it before early 
because the obviously used to go

645
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,720
into scams the first time. 
And then this I could see the 

646
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:43,800
screen so that I couldn't see 
the screen because they started 

647
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,520
doing the cheques and everything
and I could see that there were 

648
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,120
two two things there. 
So I'm looking thinking about 

649
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,600
this more than one there. 
And then the the lady turned the

650
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,640
screen round and showed us it 
was twins. 

651
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,440
Confirmed pretty much straight 
away that's the identical twins 

652
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,800
as well. 
So. 

653
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,240
There's obviously different 
types of twins, but identical 

654
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:09,680
means that the, the, the sort 
of, is it one eggs, the TD 

655
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,200
membrane? 
Yeah, one eggs split in two. 

656
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,520
And then they sort of share the 
same placenta, which is why they

657
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640
share the same DNA and stuff 
like that, which is fascinating.

658
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,280
And we found out about that 
about two days before we went 

659
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,080
all over to Portugal, didn't we 
literally ready, getting ready 

660
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,560
to go on already found out that 
we were sort of that it was 

661
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,520
twins. 
We knew we were pregnant, 

662
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,000
obviously, but found out it was 
twins. 

663
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:37,080
And then the, the consultant who
had dealt with Harry's pregnancy

664
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,480
was the same consultant and she 
sort of gave us a bit of a dose 

665
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,320
of reality straight away. 
So we went into a room and she 

666
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,320
essentially said this not not 
necessarily it's not good news 

667
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,960
because obviously it is, but she
was this is going to be very 

668
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,880
difficult with what's happened 
previously. 

669
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,440
This has just meant things a lot
harder. 

670
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,200
So that was quite chasing to 
listen to her say that. 

671
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,000
To be fair, what they did do 
then was say, right, you're 

672
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,560
going to be in every couple of 
weeks. 

673
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,400
They more or less agreed a date 
within weeks as to when the the 

674
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,360
twins have been born. 
So they, they, they've spoken to

675
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,680
different consultants and 
doctors and things like that and

676
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,680
said that there will be like a 
sort of viable time will be from

677
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,400
34 weeks I think they said 
onwards. 

678
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,400
So we is that we opted for a 
section for the girls because 

679
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,360
Isabel was the wrong way around.
So really. 

680
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,360
May have come out, it's just the
wrong way around. 

681
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,280
Now she'll go mad at that. 
When you said that Stanley, it 

682
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,680
does interest me that when you 
said the, you know, they sat you

683
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,320
in a room and said whilst this 
is extremely happy, it is a 

684
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,000
difficult period. 
Was that just because there were

685
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,480
twins or because of what had 
happened with Harry? 

686
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:06,040
I think I think both because 
because the role is going to be 

687
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,160
more sort of wary second time 
round for us anyway. 

688
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,560
But then when it's when it's 
twins and the complications that

689
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,040
couldn't come with that because 
there's all kinds of things with

690
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,520
twins where one would grow and 
sort of the stuff off off the 

691
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,760
other child and things like 
that. 

692
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,360
And there were twins when we 
were in hospital when our twins 

693
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,960
were born that had been through 
that. 

694
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,920
So you had one twin that was 
like 6 foot two and one that was

695
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,800
about four inch. 
So it was just like bizarre to 

696
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:36,240
say, but that's all the stuff 
they warn you about when you 

697
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,480
when you start down the sort of 
twin routes. 

698
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,640
Yeah, but they were sort of they
were very matter of fact with us

699
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,600
and that and explain this is how
it's going to be and this is 

700
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,280
what we're going to do. 
You'll be here every couple of 

701
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,360
weeks scans checking the growth 
and everything went there and 

702
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:01,080
then agreed to date and sort of 
another strange quirk of the day

703
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,600
that so they gave us a date to 
say. 

704
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,200
Twins that were basically born 
on the 5th of February, that's 

705
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,160
the anniversary of when my dad 
died when I was a baby as well. 

706
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,600
So, so that's sort of like a day
that bittersweet in a way. 

707
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,520
So you've got the fact that my 
dad passed away on that date in 

708
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,000
1981 and then you've got the 
twins were born on that date in 

709
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,440
2009. 
So from, so from my mum's point 

710
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,520
of view, it sort of gives it. 
Suppose it's turned a really 

711
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,640
Saturday into a very happy day. 
So yeah. 

712
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,920
Oh cracker, that is, I mean 
what? 

713
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,200
So. 
So let me just get this right 

714
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,160
you when your dad passed away, 
the girls were born on exactly 

715
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,920
the the same date. 
Yeah, same date, yeah. 

716
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,800
I didn't know that that's that 
is, you know, turning, you know,

717
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,840
something, you know, as sad as 
that was into, you know, you 

718
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,400
know, something that could be 
quite, you know, something for 

719
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,920
your mum to to think of when she
sees Isabella and Ruby is that 

720
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,720
at that time, you know, we've 
talked about a real difficult 

721
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:09,040
period for you with with Harry. 
You know that when you find out 

722
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,760
you're pregnant, Adele, and then
for the next 5-6, seven months 

723
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,120
we're constantly worrying and 
constantly stressed thinking 

724
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,320
this is going to happen again 
to. 

725
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,280
Be honest, Jess, you were a bit 
of a blur. 

726
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,520
I think you, you put yourself in
this protective bubble, I think.

727
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,360
And I, I never really got out of
it after Harry. 

728
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,640
And then I was pregnant with 
girls and obviously were. 

729
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,040
It just seemed to fly by really,
didn't it? 

730
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,480
It seemed to be a really quick 
pregnancy, like you say. 

731
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,680
I went to hospital every every 
other week, really getting 

732
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,600
checked, you know, And yeah, 
just obviously worry. 

733
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,120
Just want to get in here, 
really. 

734
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,120
As soon as they're allowed to be
born, let's have them on that 

735
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,880
day and that's what we went for.
Absolutely, yeah. 

736
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,480
Yeah, and it went, it went all 
smooth when they were born, they

737
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,840
went to special care for, well, 
Ruby were there for 9 days and 

738
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,320
Isabel were there for a couple 
of days. 

739
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,240
So they were tricky when they 
were born. 

740
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,120
We were breastfeeding, having to
go down to visit them. 

741
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,360
But you know, look at them now. 
They, they, you know, they 

742
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,880
really tall, strong, healthy 
girls, aren't they? 

743
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,960
Yeah, yeah. 
Well, yeah, we're going to go on

744
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,040
So. 
So for the listeners, Isabella 

745
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,920
and Ruby, you know, 16 years 
old, they've come. 

746
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,000
And it's again, another 
fantastic example of every time 

747
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,000
a summer finishes, we go through
a winter. 

748
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,600
You go back in the spring, you 
see your two girls there. 

749
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,280
They're they're at most matches 
walking around, seem to be 

750
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,440
getting taller and taller, you 
know, really lovely, lovely 

751
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,880
children and growing up into 
fantastic adults. 

752
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,560
I can see that that Stanley's 
getting them into a sort of a 

753
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,160
special place now with work. 
When it was the busiest bar ever

754
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,080
and when we won the league. 
There's 2 girls behind the bar. 

755
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,720
We've not done it before and 
it's Isabella Ruby. 

756
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,440
Ruby had actually done a couple 
of Wednesday nights. 

757
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,280
Right. 
And so she'd been doing a couple

758
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,520
of shifts there, just getting 
used to the everything, and then

759
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,200
she was really thrown in the 
deep end on that day because it 

760
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,240
was really busy. 
It was, but who cares? 

761
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:19,760
They did a great job, they 
helped the club out again, just 

762
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,480
like, you know, the last two or 
three generations of your 

763
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,160
family. 
So. 

764
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,880
So Gav, we've got the 2, the 
obviously twins, these two 

765
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,200
little girls, your your, your 
best mate, your mucker. 

766
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,360
You've got to be wanting, you 
know, you'll be concerned just 

767
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,520
like everyone else. 
All the other Rugrats would have

768
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,800
been. 
These two girls are born nice 

769
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,000
and healthy. 
I've did a pint get taken to 

770
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,640
celebrate the birth of them. 
Well, that's about one or two, 

771
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,000
Jess, You know, just to just to 
keep up traditions. 

772
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,200
You know, it's got to be done. 
But yeah, everyone was just so 

773
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,640
pleased. 
Yeah. 

774
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,600
Great news. 
And because everyone knew they'd

775
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,440
be great at it, you know, and 
having gone what they've, you 

776
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,440
know, gone through what they've 
gone through, it was just really

777
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,600
nice, you know, and it were, it 
were really good news. 

778
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,880
And it was nice to see nice 
people, you know, have something

779
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,280
good happened to them, really, 
you know? 

780
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Yeah. 
And then it continues with, you 

781
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,080
know, with a pair of them. 
You know, they're growing up 

782
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:29,560
into fantastic human beings. 
So, you know, if we can, we'll, 

783
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,640
I will push everything for the, 
the Sans charity. 

784
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,640
Please, anyone who's listening 
to this, if it's touched you in 

785
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,760
any way or how brave Adele's 
been and, and Matthew, with all 

786
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,280
the support that that's been 
there for them and their 

787
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,520
families, let's try and, you 
know, whether it's a lower house

788
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,760
push or a house cast push, but 
try and, you know, push this 

789
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,480
Sans charity and, and let's 
support it the best way that we 

790
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,520
can. 
I'm going to move away from from

791
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,000
this now. 
And I just want any other 

792
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,720
comments, Adele, before I've 
just read out something that you

793
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,800
sent me. 
Have you anything else to add? 

794
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,600
No, not really no. 
Just really appreciated if you 

795
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,480
could donate every sponsor. 
If it's just a fibre, you know 

796
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,800
it's not. 
It's not even a part nowadays. 

797
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Is it a fibre so that you know 
every little bit will help all 

798
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,080
the grieving parents? 
So it'd be really appreciated if

799
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,920
you could help us out. 
Yeah, I think one thing that's 

800
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,120
probably right to say, and it's 
probably long overdue in a way, 

801
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,680
but the support that we got from
everyone at the time and the 

802
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,480
sport from the Cricket Club and 
things like that. 

803
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,200
I sort of vividly remember doing
all the the Funeral arrangements

804
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:48,000
and the guys that all the 
Sonoran said what basically they

805
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,320
have like a really fancy sort of
Ford Focus. 

806
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,280
We'll be using that car on the 
day this kind of thing. 

807
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,960
You like that, That's fine. 
Yeah, that's because that's what

808
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,280
we do with with babies. 
And then Steven Alderson there 

809
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,560
got a feel for there was going 
to be quite a lot of people 

810
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,480
present and, and basically rang 
on the morning and said, look, 

811
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,520
so just so you're not alarmed, 
we are going to turn up with the

812
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,160
full sort of the full car and 
everything all set out because 

813
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,960
you know, there's going to be 
quite a lot of people there. 

814
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,720
And we turned up at the the 
Chapel at the top of the 

815
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,320
cemetery there and it was 
absolutely jammers. 

816
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,640
So I'd say that support means an
awful lot to to wasn't did then,

817
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,440
and still does today. 
Yeah, yeah, I bet it. 

818
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,760
At that time, you know, you two 
young, you know, young adults, 

819
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,720
you, you're in a, you know, 
you're in a nightmare. 

820
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:43,040
You're in a real thunderstorm. 
And at the time, you probably 

821
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,120
can't appreciate it as much, but
it's good. 

822
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,240
We can talk about it now and you
can remember that and remember 

823
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,840
the those sorts of times and the
support you can give to other 

824
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,680
people. 
Gav, is there anything from 

825
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,840
yourself before I, you know, 
close it up? 

826
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,480
No, just to, just to say to 
Adele there when you said it's 

827
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,840
not even the price of a band, 
you looked at Matthew. 

828
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,160
He won't know because it very 
rarely goes to the bar. 

829
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:11,840
But no, other than that, just 
have nothing. 

830
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,760
I think it's because he keeps 
sending me, doesn't he? 

831
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,720
And as well, I'm going to dob 
him in here. 

832
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:22,400
Adele as well. 
You probably, you probably are 

833
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,040
aware, but when, when you 
weren't pregnant with girls and 

834
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,320
we'd all wait for a band, he'd 
always throw me on the bus. 

835
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,880
They'd go right, Adele's on the 
way. 

836
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,200
Now you got bar, now you got 
bar. 

837
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,160
And she won't have a go at you, 
but she'll go mad at me. 

838
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,800
So every time you turned up and 
we've gone for a pack to pick 

839
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,360
him up because you're his taxi 
driver. 

840
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,760
And he'd go, oh, Gav's just 
been. 

841
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,560
Gav's just been. 
Bar yeah, I've got. 

842
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,960
I've got. 
I've carried that for long 

843
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,240
enough standing. 
The other big beneficiary of 

844
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,840
that was Razzers on Atkinson Rd 
stopping by there for a mixed 

845
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,200
kebab on the way through 
because. 

846
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,640
The DAF thing is, Gav, Adele 
would have known all along what 

847
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,000
we're going. 
Don't worry about that. 

848
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,400
She knew what we're going on. 
So just to finish you up once 

849
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,560
again, please help and support 
what you can. 

850
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,840
Harry would have been 18 on 
Sunday. 

851
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,160
Adele's put some, you know, some
great words in helping me to 

852
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,760
understand what happened and, 
and, and through sounds and, and

853
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,120
Adele's mentioned that always on
the run up to, to Harry's 

854
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,560
birthday, they would always have
a little bit of a celebration 

855
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,640
and a little bit of a toast. 
And, and Adele's dad would be 

856
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,120
front and centre of that, you 
know, and unfortunately he 

857
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,280
passed away last March. 
So that is a difficult period 

858
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,640
now when it's probably bringing 
back, you know, what, what you 

859
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,480
went through with Harry. 
And you know, your dad was, you 

860
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,240
know, relatively young with 
that. 

861
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,680
So you're going to have a family
meal just to toast your dad and 

862
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,160
Harry as, as you know, as it 
comes up to his 18th birthday. 

863
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,400
So I really mean it to Dale. 
You've been so brave. 

864
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,720
And thanks very much for putting
coming out and telling us what 

865
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:11,720
you've told us. 
And like I said, if it helps one

866
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:15,080
person, then you know, then it's
work to treat. 

867
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,320
So thanks very much, Adele. 
Thanks very much. 

868
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,120
Matthew, Gav, I really 
appreciate you coming on. 

869
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,440
I think it's been the best way 
of doing this. 

870
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,920
We've we were chatting about 
whether Duke should come on, 

871
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,960
whether Joe Martin, whether 
Gary, but they never easy wants 

872
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,280
to do like this. 
But I can assure you, Adele and 

873
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,360
Matthew, people will really 
appreciate it. 

874
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,880
They'll really thank you for for
doing what you've done. 

875
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,520
So thanks very much and. 
Thank you. 

876
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,200
To the to the older listeners, 
please continue to like and 

877
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,280
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cast and and support sounds 

878
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,080
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So thanks very much everyone for

879
00:49:51,080 --> 00:50:14,120
listening. 
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880
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,200
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