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Welcome to Something positive 
for Positive People. 

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I'm Courtney brain. 
Something positive for Positive 

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people is a nonprofit 
organization supporting people 

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navigating herpes stigma. 
I'm your host, Courtney brain. 

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I think I just said that I am in
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been for a while. 
That's why you haven't heard 

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many podcast episodes. 
And I've been doing that thing 

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that you shouldn't do, but you 
know, unfortunately you have to 

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do, which is just like powering 
through and doing the things 

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that need to be done because I 
mean, stuff's got to get done. 

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And so I don't necessarily want 
to speak into specifics about 

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what the grief is. 
If you follow me closely or if 

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you communicate with me, you 
know what that is. 

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But I, I just had to do some 
very vulnerable things. 

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I had a podcast guest that I was
supposed to have on. 

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I'm in the same room that the 
Zoom room that we were going to 

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be recording on. 
And I, I, I acknowledged that 

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I'm not able to be as present as
I normally am. 

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But this conversation is 
important. 

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And yeah, she did her job. 
She did her job. 

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She's AI. 
Don't I don't damn. 

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I can't even, you know, recall 
what her title is, but she talks

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about abuse, domestic violence, 
and I was going to interview her

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for the podcast because she was 
at Baylor College of Medicine 

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HIV training. 
It was a training virtual that I

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got brought in to be a part of 
alongside one of my board 

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members in order to speak on SEI
communication, sexual health, 

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and talking among patients or 
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provider or providers to 
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See, see, I'm scatterbrained and
I'm very grateful to my yoga 

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therapy program because I have 
resources that help me 

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understand that. 
Whereas if I didn't understand 

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what it is and I'm experiencing 
and going through, who knows how

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that would show up. 
I'll probably be posting crazy 

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stuff on social media and all 
types of unnecessary things that

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are less than healthy coping 
mechanism, so I am going to be 

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taking whatever time it is that 
I need away from the things that

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aren't a priority right now. 
Priority number one is healing. 

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The thing that I think is the 
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is going to be recalibrating my 
focus and aligning, realigning 

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and defining what is happening 
with Something Positive for 

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Positive People. 
Like not that too much is going 

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to change, but to give you 
perspective, this upcoming 

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Saturday, March 8th, I was 
supposed to have a Expo, another

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Something Positive for Positive 
People Expo in Newark, NJ. 

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I got a venue, a space, I had a 
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New Jersey as well and we were 
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It's been a little bit over a 
month and I've posted about it. 

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I've told people and they have 
Flyers at the organization and 

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we have one person signed up for
a free ticket. 

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So I went on ahead and just 
cancelled the event. 

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And yeah, now I really don't 
need to be back here in New York

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for a bit. 
So I'm going to take some time. 

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I'm going to go and just reset 
myself at home. 

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I'm going to be in Saint Louis. 
I don't have like an end date. 

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I didn't have much on the 
schedule for my part time job 

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teaching medical students to 
give genital exams. 

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So I'm going to just take some 
time and go home. 

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I'm going to see family and 
friends again. 

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I was really recharging for me 
and now I really need to more so

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spend some alone time and 
there's going to be a lot of 

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that. 
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that's going to look like and 
being able to do what I need to 

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do in order to shift what my 
priority is. 

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I think that for a while now 
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attentiveness, prioritization 
away from what my priority 

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should have been, and it shows. 
And energetically, I'm a real 

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big energy person. 
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organization called something 
positive or positive people like

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my positivity has been like 
it's, it's been minimized speak 

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a stigma minimization. 
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reserves for a while, probably a
few months and doing just 

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enough. 
I've been doing just enough to 

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get by and do the bare minimum. 
I've been showing up for my yoga

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therapy clients. 
I've been missing class 

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sessions. 
I've been late to calls and 

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missing calls, and that is not 
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So yeah, I'm dealing with the 
thing that I need to deal with 

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in the way that I it's a new 
way, I think that this is a very

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new way for me to deal with 
grief Now, having had access to 

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Antonio, I didn't. 
I cannot say his last name. 

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Sauces, souses. 
But he does yoga for grief 

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relief. 
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looking at one of his retreats. 
I got invited like for a 

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scholarship too, but I just 
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my Expo, I think, or the IT was 
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Wellness Symposium, one of 
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And maybe if I had gone like I 
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grieving for a long time and 
what Kendrick Lamar say, I 

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grieve different. 
So I'm going to listen to my 

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little sad playlist. 
I'm going to feel my feelings 

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and push through for tomorrow. 
I don't like that phrase, push 

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through. 
I am going to be as present as I

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can be for the social. 
That's tomorrow on Thursday in 

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Brooklyn at the house, me and 
Trisha, AKA Safe Slut are going 

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to host a social event for 
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And we're just going to get 
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maybe have some music, dancing. 
If anybody wants to drink, they 

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can. 
This is not a good time for me 

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to drink. 
I ain't doing that till I get 

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around safer people and I know 
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So that's what I'm going to do. 
I'm going to wait till I get 

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home. 
I have me a day of of my little 

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my vices, and then I got to get 
to it, if that. 

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Like I'm recognizing that there 
is various kinds of coping 

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mechanisms for healing and 
getting through hard things. 

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And I'm human, just like I think
a lot of people are. 

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You know, you may not recognize 
the thing in the moment, but 

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hindsight 2020 is miraculous. 
It's very if we had that 

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foresight paired with our 
hindsight, I think we get 

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insight. 
Oh, that's profound. 

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That's some shit people be like 
for. 

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But no, all seriousness. 
Yeah, I've, I've not been doing 

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what I need to be doing. 
I've shifted what I've given to 

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something positive for positive 
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years. 
It's been 8 years now. 

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I was porn at somewhere else and
that's not what I should have 

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been doing. 
I recognize that it's important 

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for me to be able to name my 
needs after becoming a person 

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who has met my own needs or 
found people to support me and 

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meeting whatever those needs 
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I think that for a really long 
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them or unwilling to name these 
needs, and it's like they're 

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either met or they're not, and 
regardless, it's me who's 

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responsible for meeting them. 
So in not being able to identify

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and name what my needs are, what
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difficult to create boundaries 
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And not only am I creating the 
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to communicate the boundaries 
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those boundaries as a way of 
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And I recognize that how we do 
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everything. 
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here in regards to something 
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well as the thing that I'm 
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And in that, what I see is I 
haven't had to, I really haven't

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had to state my needs. 
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that I don't need boundaries for
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I've just believed that. 
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and done a really good job of 
bringing in the kind of people 

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who belong here, who belong in 
my space, who when I'm aligned 

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with what I'm supposed to be 
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relationships and connections, 
everything has sort of just 

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appeared in my orbit. 
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And all of a sudden, like my 
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It's not even all of a sudden, 
but overtime, like I'm trying to

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do things differently under the 
expectation that this is 

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supposed to be better for me. 
And I had a recent experience of

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finding my notebooks from when I
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And I was reading through them. 
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I was able to see a lot of the 
work that I've done on myself to

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become the person that I am and 
not perfect, no such thing as 

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perfect, far from it. 
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acknowledging, accepting, 
embracing my imperfections and 

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learning along the way, you 
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there's been more damage done 
than what I can like verbalize 

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and name or what's in my range 
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But there's also been a lot of 
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And I think that I've been hard 
on myself and I've been talking 

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to family and friends about 
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And it's always a wonderful 
experience to have different 

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perspectives because those 
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ain't going to say like make me 
feel better, but do make me feel

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like there are just things that 
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whatever reasons, right? 
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like how things are said, I 
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into consistently is that it is 
more important that a thing be 

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done than a thing be done well. 
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of learn and I've learned that 
from the simulation. 

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Most recently, I got feedback. 
A lot of the feedback was we 

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need to have more lecture. 
They would like some examples of

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using stigma free language for 
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the simulation and if they 
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play. 
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regarding how they wish that 
people wish that expectations 

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were a lot more clear. 
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something that I run into a lot,
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because I've done this thing 
where I'm like, oh, OK, like 

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that's the thing that needs to 
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Let's do that. 
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it out. 
Like, that's how my life has 

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worked out well for me. 
I've learned a lot. 

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There's been successes. 
There's been things that are 

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important to me have been 
accomplished along the way of 

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that because there's been so 
many times in the past where 

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I've planned and then things 
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And then we got to plan again 
for things accommodating. 

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But it's so much more efficient 
and effective for me that we 

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just, we take action. 
You know, one of the codes I 

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live by is I never want to look 
back on the thing and say, why 

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didn't I like, why didn't I take
action? 

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Why didn't I do a thing? 
Why didn't I speak up? 

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Why didn't I say something? 
I would rather look back on my 

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life if there are any regrets 
and be able to say, damn, why 

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did I do it this way? 
I never want to look back and 

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have regret about taking in 
action. 

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I would rather have taken wrong 
action. 

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And there's a lot of times in my
life where I think about having 

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taken no action versus wrong 
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And even wrong action has 
probably had worse consequences 

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than taking no action. 
But it it very much feels like 

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I'm living with an integrity in 
order to be able to say that 

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right. 
Like why? 

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I remember more times I didn't 
do a thing then I've done a 

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thing wrong, but I've learned 
from said wrong thing and been 

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able to take the lesson, embody 
it, incorporated and how I do 

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things moving forward. 
Like I always say, I don't make 

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the same mistake twice. 
And yeah, I feel like I do, 

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though, looking at my journals 
and reflecting on a lot of what 

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I'm reading and seeing, I'm 
finding myself in a pattern that

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I've been in a few times before.
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client. 
Shout out to Allie. 

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Appreciate you. 
She said this to me and it's 

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stuck. 
And she said, we don't just sort

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of beat the game of the lesson, 
right? 

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Like we have a lesson, it shows 
itself again and again and 

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again. 
And we expected to just stop. 

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It's like, all right, I've seen 
this before, like I beat the 

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game, get it out of my face. 
But what it is is that from the 

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previous time, we should have 
learned something to apply to 

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the next time that we're met 
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So we get better at handling the
pattern as it comes up. 

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And I think that my history with
patterns is an attempt to avoid 

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dealing with things that I've 
had to deal with in the past by 

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putting myself in different 
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telling myself like, oh, OK, 
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environment, then the 
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It is the same thing with my 
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It is the same thing in my 
personal life that there are and

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have been a lot of just 
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And that's on my part. 
Like I assume that, OK, well, if

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this thing has branches and 
leaves on it, then it's a tree 

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because there's other trees 
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But that may not be the case, 
you know, when just because it 

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looks like a tree doesn't make 
it a tree. 

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This has happened a lot of times
for many of the opportunities 

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that I've I've had. 
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wise, personal wise, yeah. 
It's it's been, it's been really

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weird for me because on one 
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well or seeming really well and 
then the others not. 

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And it's, it's regardless of how
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I, I think I took on an all or 
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can only do full throttle 100%. 
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my relationship with something 
positive for positive people and

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then in my personal life. 
So it's one or the other. 

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And I think that what boundaries
are going to do for me and being

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able to know my needs and 
communicate what these 

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boundaries are set expectations 
is it's going to Get Me Out of 

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this all or nothing pattern of I
need to pour everything into 

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only this and allow for me to 
evenly distribute what I have to

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pour and also be able to find 
healthy ways of filling my 

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energetic cup. 
Because I think that people and 

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things are typically what we 
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And for me, I've looked to 
people to fill my cup, feel my 

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cup. 
Now I fill it and I need to step

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away and fill my own cup and 
then enjoy sharing what I filled

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my cup up with with people. 
So yeah, it's going to be a 

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process for me. 
I leave from New Jersey on 

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Friday and I go back to Saint 
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I'm going to take my stuff to my
grandmother's house. 

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And yeah, I'm going to spend a 
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I'll have like an office space, 
just like a sanctuary for 

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myself. 
Shout out to Carl for always 

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telling me I always got a place 
there. 

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I always got a place at home, 
but it's temporary. 

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I don't want to do what I did 
before. 

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Where I go home, get caught up 
and stay home and look up and 

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five years go past without me 
having done much of what you 

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know, aligns for my purpose. 
And I say that, but I've been 

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able to do a lot for people over
those years. 

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And I was just at home starting 
something positive for positive 

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people. 
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of the hero's journey. 
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journey, I mean like bad thing 
happens, person goes off into 

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the world, my bad thing, maybe 
let's call it my herpes 

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diagnosis, go out into the world
and try and like conquer 

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something. 
Like finding a sense of purpose,

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which was living life. 
Like it wasn't really any more 

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complex than that. 
It was super simple. 

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And along the way, I got all 
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and shit. 
And I've also picked up these 

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skills and these tools. 
I learned about simulated 

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patients. 
I learned that they don't they 

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don't talk about sex and sexual 
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I learned that there's like no 
men learning how to talk about 

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sex and like being one of I 
don't know how many of us there 

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are, but as far as talking about
sexual Health Communication, 

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right, it's just me. 
It's just my lived experiences. 

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And in these lived experiences, 
I see that there's tools and 

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resources that I wish that I had
available, regardless of what 

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I've learned on my own, 
regardless of the trial and 

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error myself, and what I've just
been able to pick up from 

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workshops and books and podcasts
like it's not enough. 

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And I am in a very unique 
position to be able to. 

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Recreate and distribute those 
kind of things, more of those 

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kinds of things in the settings 
that matter, and give people the

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tools to be able to talk to men 
about their sex and sexual 

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health and all this other stuff.
Like there's a lot of just 

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things that I've gotten 
sidetracked from and even this 

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podcast, probably like a 
sidetrack thing, but I think I 

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need to get this out. 
I need to say what I'm saying 

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right now for the sake of 
getting it off my chest. 

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I was listening to a Childish 
Gambino interview club, and he 

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was talking about working with 
Erykah Badu. 

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And he asked, he was like, you 
know, how do you do this? 

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Like the pressure of making 
great music for people? 

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How do you make what they want? 
And she told her, she said, I, I

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feed them and how they eat it, 
it's up to them. 

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Like I make what I like to eat. 
They can eat it with a fork, 

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they can eat it fast, they can 
eat it while they're cleaning 

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it, whatever it is, like the, 
the product that is made is 

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making what I like, what I need.
And they take it in how they 

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take it in. 
And that was a really powerful 

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quote for me because I've been 
also doing that both with people

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end in my relationship with 
something positive for positive 

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people. 
I've been trying to do all these

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events and it's hard to get 
people to show up to the events,

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but I know damn well that like 
more of who follows and engages 

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with something positive for 
positive people is it's global. 

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It's not just like, oh, I have 
such a large community in this 

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place. 
And you know, I feel that way 

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for sure about New York. 
Like New York is the website 

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numbers are there, but it's it's
difficult to get people to show 

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up. 
I don't really have support from

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support groups and the the 
dating site that exists. 

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So a lot of this is just 
guerrilla warfare, not warfare. 

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Oh my God, guerrilla marketing 
tactics, figuring this out on my

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own. 
And when you figure things out 

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on your own, like you get good 
at figuring things out on your 

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own. 
And it also gets bored or not 

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boring, challenging. 
Like I want to bring people in. 

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I want to bring somebody in to, 
to help and be more involved. 

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And I think that even among 
that, like I've gotten 

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sidetracked from what's 
important here. 

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And what's most important here 
is that I serve the people 

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directly affected by herpes and 
I advocate in the right spaces. 

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And also I got to take care of 
like my yoga therapy school 

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stuff, which I've been 
neglecting. 

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Again, just grieving brain. 
I can say that now because of 

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what I learned in yoga therapy 
school. 

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So when they're like, where's 
your homework? 

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Like grieving brain, y'all 
taught me that. 

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But no seriously, and it's it's 
tough as somebody who I was like

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30 whenever the pandemic 
started, I think a little bit 

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after that I got into therapy 
and I'm back in therapy. 

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I took a two year break to do 
some things on my own. 

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Probably should have been in 
there the whole time, but money 

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and also like, I think it's 
important to be able to do 

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things on your own too, right? 
Like the integration versus 

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implementation thing, right? 
Like there's a need to learn 

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things, but then we also have to
be able to show that we've 

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learned something from them. 
And that's what I've been doing 

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over the last almost two years. 
Yeah, probably a year and a half

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more more. 
So it's been more so a year and 

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a half since I've seen and 
talked to my therapist prior to 

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like, getting back into it with 
them. 

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And yeah, I, he came at me and 
was like, here's what's going on

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with you. 
And he hit me with the 

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perspective of like something 
that was just deep down that I 

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kind of knew and I was in denial
of. 

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And part of grieving is denial, 
bargaining. 

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And there's all these steps of 
it. 

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But what he touched on made me 
angry. 

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And this is one of the reasons 
that I do appreciate healing 

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modalities and, and, and therapy
as well as my own self 

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reflective work because yeah, I 
can ask myself the questions. 

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I can find out like, why did I 
do this thing? 

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Oh, this is connected to this, 
right? 

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I can do all of that. 
But for somebody to because he 

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he also a sassy gay black man. 
And he hit me with, he just hit 

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me with the real questions, the 
real statements, man like, like 

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nobody else can. 
And so I think that between 

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having experienced that anger 
and burning that up and how 

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comes the, the sadness, I think 
that I need to feel sad. 

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And I'm working with him on 
boundaries for myself. 

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And I'm, I'm telling y'all this 
man, because if I don't just get

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this shit out right here right 
now, it's going to spill out in 

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podcast episodes in the future. 
It's going to spill out when 

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y'all engage with me on social 
media. 

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I already just had a recent like
back and forth with somebody 

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where I was trying to be my like
peppy self and shit. 

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And I think it was interpreted 
wrong just based on how the, the

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text, the messages went. 
And I could be completely wrong 

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because again, like grieving 
brain like it's, it's I need to 

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get to baseline. 
I need to get back to my 

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baseline. 
I know what I would normally 

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like to do right now. 
I'm not going to do that thing 

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or those things because they're 
not, they're not healthy 

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behaviors. 
So I'm making the space right 

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now to just feel, to just feel 
what it is that I need to. 

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Yeah, I, yeah. 
So without, I guess talking 

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specifically about it, because I
don't want to, I don't, I don't 

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want to. 
And my reasoning for it is that 

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I know the core of what the 
issue is, what my issues are. 

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And this is what I plan to step 
away and work on for myself 

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because I'm going to be a better
person as a whole for it. 

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And it'll show up in my work 
when I am able to get past this 

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whole like being needless shit. 
Because it, it hasn't served me.

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It served me, but also it, it 
hasn't served me in a matter of 

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like most important, of what's 
most important, what's a 

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priority to me? 
Because also like, if you don't 

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know what your needs are, how 
can you prioritize them, right? 

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Because then everything's a 
priority. 

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So nothing's a priority. 
So it's very critical for me 

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right now to be able to step 
back, step away, go into the 

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fortress of solitude for a 
little bit, and then lean into 

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the people that have been 
supportive to me and like 

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confide in them and and have 
these positively supportive and 

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healing modalities for me rather
than coping strategies and 

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mechanisms. 
All right. 

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So yeah, there's a lot of things
that I want to just pour out and

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say, but I think that the 
pressure, it's depressurized a 

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little bit me being able to come
here and, you know, say these 

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things. 
And while it didn't have 

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anything to do with something 
positive for positive people 

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like herpes at all, like I think
that me having to, you know, 

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cancel the interview that I 
should have been having right 

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now on this recording, this Zoom
meeting link and everything, I 

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think that that speaks volumes 
to it needing to come out 

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consciously rather than 
unconsciously. 

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And I push people away or turn 
people off from something 

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positive. 
But yeah, this is me being real.

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Like, I don't like I, I even 
told the lady I was like, hey, 

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this is really hard for me to 
cancel because I'm the kind of 

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person who we set a date, we set
a time like, let's show, let's 

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do this. 
We got to do this. 

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And she was like, Nah, take care
of yourself. 

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Like, I'll be here. 
We can reschedule. 

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And so I, I just, I took her up 
on that and I actually am kind 

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of glad that I did because what 
if this shit came out then? 

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Oh man, I can't imagine. 
She's just been sitting there 

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like, you want to talk to me 
about this? 

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No, but I appreciate that. 
Her name's Thesia. 

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So when you see that podcast 
episode come up, we'll probably,

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we'll probably have some laughs 
about that. 

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But one thing I can say is that 
while, you know, I'm sad, like 

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I'm also excited because I know 
what this means for me. 

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I think that environment plays a
huge role in things like I've 

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been in New Jersey and I've been
really fighting to, you know, 

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like forcing myself into a 
bubble and environment community

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that I haven't just naturally 
been able to fall into. 

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And I think that I've been very 
I've I've separated and created 

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space for myself from what makes
me happy, what play is for me. 

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I've very much consciously 
disconnected from what's play 

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for me and immerse myself in the
important, the heavy, the, the, 

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the big stuff. 
And I've not allowed myself 

447
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,000
permission to play and engage 
with the small stuff. 

448
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,200
I've been reading a lot about 
sexual energy as well. 

449
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,760
Can I pull this up? 
Probably not. 

450
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,160
Nope. 
Damn, I can't yeah, I can. 

451
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,560
I got to go back pretty far. 
So me and ChatGPT have been 

452
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,120
having a lot of conversations. 
So y'all, y'all probably heard 

453
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,960
about this like no FAP, don't 
masturbate, use your sexual 

454
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,840
energy this way, whatever. 
And something that I've been 

455
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,640
grasping with myself lately is 
sexual energy as a whole, like 

456
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:42,200
not just as sex intercourse, but
as creativity, as vital life 

457
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,520
force, right? 
And I try to see like, well, 

458
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,920
what is it that I get out of 
sex, right? 

459
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,840
And it's not just sex like work 
relationships, right? 

460
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,600
I think that we have our energy 
and we pour what we pour into 

461
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,080
who and what we put into. 
And so for myself, for a really 

462
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,960
long time, I've poured into 
something positive for positive 

463
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,160
people, what I would have to 
give into a relationship. 

464
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,080
And when relationships would 
come up historically, like I 

465
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,400
wouldn't prioritize their 
relationship. 

466
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:25,840
And that would be, I think like 
why some of them if not gone 

467
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520
anywhere because obviously I've 
been in relationships. 

468
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:36,080
But when I look at how I've not 
how I've been historically 

469
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,240
showing up, like I've been able 
to really hit the gas on 

470
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,640
something positive for positive 
people and then make space for 

471
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,520
play. 
I'd always have something, 

472
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,560
someone, somewhere to look 
forward to and have like 

473
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,840
immersive weekends or time of 
engaging in that sexual energy, 

474
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,440
whether that be in a sex down 
South, sex down South is a great

475
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880
example. 
Or if it's like meeting up with 

476
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,000
a partner and just being able to
chill and relax and just 

477
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,120
experience the pleasantness of, 
you know, good company. 

478
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:15,000
And I've for a really long time 
just been trying to like force 

479
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,440
that that kind of energy for 
myself in ways that I haven't 

480
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,920
before. 
And I think part of me was just 

481
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:29,320
like, this is actually what is 
good for me, right? 

482
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,680
Like not doing those things is 
going to be better for me 

483
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,880
because those things are bad 
because they're externally 

484
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440
driven. 
But then also within a 

485
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,840
relationship with myself, my 
partner or well, not myself, my 

486
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,440
partner or my business, then 
it's still like seeking that 

487
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,640
feeling, that sensation 
externally. 

488
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,320
And till Swan is somebody I 
follow on YouTube, always listen

489
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,000
to her YouTube shorts. 
And one of the things that she 

490
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
said is like, she's very 
counterculture in spirituality, 

491
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,240
which I really like because of 
the unconventionality of it. 

492
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,480
And one of the things that she 
says is like, we, we need 

493
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,480
people. 
Like we don't learn lessons 

494
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,320
without people. 
So these external things that we

495
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,200
get our needs met from or what 
it is that we need, like we 

496
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,320
shouldn't be demonized for it. 
And that really gave me a sense 

497
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,360
of lightness and a sense of 
relief because I didn't know 

498
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,920
what I didn't know that I was 
OK. 

499
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Like I felt like it was wrong 
for me to be who I am or for who

500
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,360
I've become. 
Like, I think that's the worst 

501
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,880
shit in the world is when 
somebody makes you feel like who

502
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,080
you are or is bad, especially 
when you've worked so hard to 

503
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,760
become who you are. 
It's not like I just looked up 

504
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,400
and you know, I was this person,
right? 

505
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,040
Like this took a lot of work and
a lot of the work that I've done

506
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,120
in order to become this. 
Like this shit ain't easy. 

507
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,960
Don't nobody fucking teach you 
how to do this. 

508
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,480
Don't nobody is. 
Resources are out there. 

509
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,600
It's stuff out there. 
But then like you read some 

510
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,760
shit, you find out that so and 
so is not who they say they are.

511
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,640
And that discredits everything 
that they've done. 

512
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,960
And now you got to find somebody
else, find something else to go 

513
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,320
into. 
And man, it's been I, I just, I 

514
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:22,040
don't, I don't like that 
feeling. 

515
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,280
I, I think now like I'm 
uncovering some new stuff here. 

516
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:35,800
I don't like the feeling of, I 
don't like the feeling of like 

517
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,239
identity invalidation. 
God damn, that's what it is. 

518
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,040
So I, I talk about how I've 
learned, you know what, why 

519
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,639
people have suicide ideation. 
And it's that I think that it's 

520
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,639
an invalidation of identity. 
Not to say that I have suicide 

521
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:58,320
ideation, but the feelings that 
I have are an intense resistance

522
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:05,040
to my environment as it is like 
my environment in a way of like 

523
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:12,840
consciously trying to view what 
I've learned to view as good as 

524
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,680
bad so that I can do something 
better or different that's 

525
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,840
supposed to be healthier or 
better. 

526
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:27,000
And I got to, I got to get back 
into myself because I don't 

527
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,800
believe that. 
And there's a direct conflict of

528
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,800
behaviors and beliefs within 
myself. 

529
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:38,320
And the environment that I'm in 
is like forcing me to recognize 

530
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,000
and acknowledge that now. 
And there's a lot of shit that's

531
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,400
just like happening in here in 
my inner world, as a result of 

532
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,760
my external world. 
In my external world, when I've 

533
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,560
been alone has been fucking 
hard. 

534
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,440
It's been really, really 
difficult. 

535
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,560
But I've made it. 
I've made it. 

536
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,680
And I think that in those 
moments, like I've, I've worn 

537
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,080
myself out emotionally because 
of course the grass always look 

538
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,880
greener on the other side. 
When you single, social media 

539
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,600
tell you how awesome the 
relationship is. 

540
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,760
When you're in a relationship, 
social media tell you what 

541
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,280
you're missing out on being 
single. 

542
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,800
And that's just unfortunately 
how the algorithm works. 

543
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,920
It plays on our emotional 
states. 

544
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,920
And I think people do that shit 
too. 

545
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,320
People are taught by the 
algorithm like what's good, 

546
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,600
what's bad, what's cool, what's 
popular, right? 

547
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:48,600
And people's own inner beliefs 
have like their own conflicts. 

548
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,600
And we deal with those sometimes
by projecting them. 

549
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,960
We might project them on our 
businesses, we might project 

550
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,160
them on people closest to us or 
the communities that we're part 

551
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,080
of. 
And I, I feel like that's 

552
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,160
something that I've, I've done, 
like I've been doing that and 

553
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,160
it's not mine. 
It's what I mean by like my 

554
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,960
environment. 
I've been listening to Napoleon 

555
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,720
Hills outwitting the Devil 
again. 

556
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,680
And he talks about these 7 
principles, right? 

557
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,360
One of them is definiteness of 
purpose, exercise and caution. 

558
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,640
How important our environment is
self-discipline, mastering the 

559
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,840
emotion of sex, harmony, 
especially in our relationships.

560
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:34,120
I do not remember what number 7 
is. 

561
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,200
I always forget the seven, 
whether it be one of those ones 

562
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480
that I just said or the one that
I didn't say. 

563
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:47,840
But in that what motorcycle or 
bike? 

564
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,920
OK, excuse me, sidetracked 
grieving brain, right squirrel. 

565
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,200
But in reviewing those, right, 
like I'm, I'm looking at myself 

566
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,640
and I'm like, damn, you know, 
I've been doing a lot of, of not

567
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:08,360
those things. 
And environment has been a 

568
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,880
really key part for me. 
Like I have not been able to be 

569
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,360
myself in the environment that 
I've been in and it's just not 

570
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,920
been conducive to me. 
It's not been something that I 

571
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,680
have been able to maintain my 
momentum of growth. 

572
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,000
And I believed something for 
myself that maybe doing 

573
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,600
something different was growing.
Maybe like I outgrew things like

574
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:39,240
sex positivity or non monogamy 
or like the being active on 

575
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:45,360
social media and Instagram. 
I really, I really think that 

576
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:51,400
like that is part of why I'm 
grieving right now is that my 

577
00:38:51,400 --> 00:39:01,320
beliefs change because I really 
wanted something that I think 

578
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,960
that there, that I was convinced
that there was only one way to 

579
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,320
get. 
And I think that's bullshit 

580
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,760
because I've worked so hard to 
learn that that's not the case, 

581
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,800
to unlearn that as the case and 
then to learn that to like have 

582
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,920
to now unlearn those things and 
like relearn that what I knew in

583
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,600
the beginning was actually 
right. 

584
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,040
It just needed to be done 
different. 

585
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:31,720
No, no, like I, I'm way more 
powerful than that. 

586
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,360
Like, I'm not, you know, I think
I said this earlier, I'm only 

587
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,640
human, but I'm not like I'm, I 
really truly believe that, you 

588
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:45,320
know, this body is the vehicle 
of experiencing this part of 

589
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,840
whatever it is, the electrical 
current that runs through the 

590
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,400
nervous system of this body that
is moving and speaking and 

591
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,840
having the experience. 
And I really, you know, I'm 

592
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,360
working to not identify with 
anything because that's what all

593
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,320
the spiritual teachers say to 
do, like unidentified with that 

594
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,400
which you are identified and. 
It's like my environment has 

595
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,200
tried to like, force me into 
identifying with a lot of things

596
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,680
and trying to get me to 
unidentify with things that, you

597
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,920
know, that that have actually 
served me. 

598
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:34,000
So yeah, I don't, I don't have 
any desire to go into like 

599
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,920
specifics of things. 
I'm not, I'm not good at that. 

600
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,720
I know what I feel. 
I know what I experienced. 

601
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:44,200
I know what I've experienced and
also understand that feelings 

602
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,120
are subjective and that people 
can experience completely 

603
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,800
different things from the same 
exact situation just based on 

604
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,840
their proximity to the core of 
whatever it is. 

605
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,240
And so I feel like that's where 
I'm at right now is needing to 

606
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:08,560
change my environment. 
I need to really self not 

607
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,240
abandoned, whatever, whatever 
the opposite of self abandonment

608
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:18,000
is, do that and be present with 
myself, be present with my 

609
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,840
grief, be present with my 
healing process, be present with

610
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,520
my purpose and be present in 
delivering the things that I 

611
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,320
promised that I was going to 
deliver and really make make 

612
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,000
work what I know I can make 
work. 

613
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,280
And just yeah, that's this. 
This is just going to be the 

614
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,880
upcoming challenge. 
So if y'all listen to this, I 

615
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,800
want to just express my 
gratitude for your willingness 

616
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,360
to hear me. 
And listen, you know, if any of 

617
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,440
this resonates with y'all, like 
I don't know that I really need,

618
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,640
you know, the sorry, what's 
going on If you if you follow 

619
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:03,320
me, you know, but yeah, I'm not,
I don't want to feed that. 

620
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,480
I want to feed what's happening 
moving forward. 

621
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,520
Again, yoga therapy, the peer 
support calls, the podcast, and 

622
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,800
then my training for health 
professionals focusing on yoga 

623
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,880
therapy training and working 
part time as I can with the 

624
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,880
priority being my own personal 
healing. 

625
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,960
So I hope you all continue to 
rock with your boys, support 

626
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,720
something positive and and yeah,
whenever I do have any virtual 

627
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520
event type things, I hope that 
y'all will attend. 

628
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,280
I would love to see y'all there,
but I definitely I need to stop 

629
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,440
trying to work with other 
people. 

630
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,720
I'm I'm over. 
I'm I almost said something. 

631
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,760
I need to just trust myself. 
I need to trust myself. 

632
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,680
That's what we're going to say, 
but we got this survey still up 

633
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,960
and running on the Herpes survey
tab. 

634
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,000
So if you check that out and 
please contribute, partake in 

635
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,080
the survey. 
We need as many responses as we 

636
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,600
can get so that we can show that
we're speaking from the 

637
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,240
experiences that y'all are 
sharing. 

638
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,120
Again, tomorrow, Thursday at 
7:00 PM, we're at the house in 

639
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Brooklyn, NY. 
Me and Tricia, AKA Safe Slut. 

640
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,760
We're going to be hosting an in 
person social event. 

641
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,840
Just something for people with 
herpes, people who follow her, 

642
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,200
people who follow me. 
Come grab a drink, say hi, start

643
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:24,440
a conversation, and then yeah, 
that's, that's it y'all. 

644
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,080
Thank y'all for letting me 
grieve and letting this be like 

645
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,000
an act of grief instead of me 
bitching on social media about 

646
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,080
some bullshit or being on there 
and responding to things and all

647
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:42,280
of that. 
This is this is my one of my 

648
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,560
part of my space and healing and
all that good stuff. 

649
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:52,000
All right, so till next time, 
the next podcast episode, I'll 

650
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,520
be in a different environment 
and I'll probably be in a 

651
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,160
different mood. 
So just bear with me as I get my

652
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,440
shit back together, y'all, 
because it's not together. 

653
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,880
I'm not OK. 
All right y'all, till next time.

