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I got Gary Wayne here, the Genesis 6 conspiracy, this, I is
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hit us with a plethora of information.
This episode is jam-packed. Listen, we start off talking
about how he started this unique Journey that he's been on.
And we end up going down into history.
Biblical theology mythology, lion-men dog, men, demigods,
Fallen, Angels, Watchers, the little people, the Elementals,
dude. The bird like people.
It's and even the salamander people, we cover a little bit of
everything on this episode, Gary was a blast to talk with.
There's so much information here.
Just get a cup of coffee. Get a cup of tea, whatever
you're into chillax, sit back and give this one a listen.
Let's go recently on the blurry. Creatures podcast, man.
I was on the edge of my seat. I said, I definitely have to get
ahold of this guy, so it's an honor to have you here on the
show, man. No problem, no problem.
That's kind of what I try and do is I try and raise some
curiosity with people. Not sure what kind what genre
your audience is into, but wherever you want to, go is fine
with me and we can talk about anything you want to talk about
ideal. A lot of Supernatural
encounters. We love the word of God here.
I like talking about, you know, persons of Faith, but I really
like dumped into a little bit of everything.
I can talk on a wide variety of topics.
So no worries, what led you ultimately down this path.
If you want to give us like a quick version of how you came to
the gallery. You are today, it's quite a
process and a story, but it all begins with sitting down one
Friday evening when I was very young and, you know, just an We
adult and sitting down with my brother and a friend and we're
having beers on a Friday night and we're having more beers and
then late into the evening. One of them says to me, you
know, you know how brave are you?
What kind of Courage do you have pretty good?
I guess, I don't know. What do you mean?
You said? Well, if you've got the courage
and only if you've got the courage you know, maybe you
should read this book and it was a book called the late great
planet Earth by Hal Lindsey and then they start talking about
all sorts of crazy things like false prophet and the Antichrist
and Like that. And I'm going, you know, that's
pretty bizarre, but I took the challenge.
And so I read the book not that night, obviously when I was
sober, but I read the book and it scared the socks off of me.
But naturally, I'm a contrarian. And what that means is, I like
to verify everything that somebody says something says or
anything that somebody says that, that they've heard or
whatever. So, I like to verify that.
And so I started to checking out Passages and things that he was
referring to. And you know, and my knowledge
wasn't all that deep but I thought you know, he's being
pretty darn accurate and so whether or not he's a hundred
percent right or not or is timeframes 100% right?
He's directionally he's he's scaring that the socks off of me
so I thought I need to verify this even more.
So then I decided I need to read the Bible and I need to
understand this and then I started reading it and reading
it and then I Help over halfway through and I thought, you know,
this is crazy. I have 24 in terms of how my
mind works is I'm going to have to catalog all of these
different story themes or whether or not their prophecy or
the prehistory. And there's just so many
different narratives that run throughout the Bible and that's
what I was noticing these patterns of these streams.
And so I started to go through that process and spent over 15
years, just documenting the narratives and putting them in
files and then I Thought you know, after all of this research
and putting it down in in sort of a, not a book form, but in
just organizing Thoughts with verses and stuff, I thought, you
know what, I have a lot of material here in.
There's probably, you know, 10 to 15 books, I'd like to write.
So I want to see whether or not a I can get, I can write a book.
Be I could actually get somebody to publish it and see what
anybody actually read it. So I thought well what do I want
to jump into first? And I thought, you know, I want
to do something easy and short so I thought and so I ran across
these Giants in Genesis 6. So I thought well, I'm just
going to ignore that. But then afterwards, I went back
and I recorded all of those narratives as I went along.
And then I thought, you know, I already short book about these
Giants and how they're connected to angels and while of this kind
of kind of shows up in the end time.
So I wrote the first 10 chapters really quickly and I thought,
you know what? I have another passion.
Fashion, that's history and mythology.
And then I thought, well, I know there's parallels with the giant
story and so I'm going to start to weave in some of that and
maybe do another section. And then that led me into all I
have to add into more about the religion.
So now I got to research all about the religions.
I get into the religions that leads to the mystery schools
which leads to secret societies and then I spent probably a, you
know, their decade just down those rabbit holes and then I
started to The bar, it turned. I mean, finish.
The book is probably a better term for doing for what I'm
saying here. And You know, it turned from a
small book and probably and hopefully the largest book I
ever, right? And so that's how I got into it
and then I found as I got out there was is that people were
lacking this kind of information in a way.
I had never really understood or grasped before and even more
information and on things than what I put in the book or didn't
have room to put in the book. And, you know, that's also led
me to write a sequel to the book that I'm working on right now.
That's quite a journey. It's Like your diligence and
passion just kept you going and oil not really to a certain
degree because you know it's so many times as you're going
through this and down the rabbit holes on so many different
things. Is that you start to say, this
is crazy. Yeah.
No. Nobody's going to believe this
and I dropped it like, you know, like a hot potato and let it
grow cold but I would get this this calling back to do it well
and it just wouldn't it just sort of wouldn't go away and Or
times when I thought the book was finished and I wanted it to
be finished so many times because it was just taking such
a long project or, you know, well over a decade to write the
book and then I'd be almost led to find a book and some of the
ones I thought I could never get I come across in the most
strangest ways. Like you wouldn't believe like I
put the poeple do excerpts into some of the polytheists
sections. Of the book.
And, you know, I was kind of putting in stuff that I was
referencing through other authors and stuff.
I don't really like to do that unless I'm want them to speak in
their own words, but I couldn't get the book because it wasn't
published, but I'm on a vacation with my wife, and we stopped
along the, my Caribbean, and we're walking in this small
town. It really, really hot.
And my wife says, I need to go into this little convenience
store and get a bottle of water and I walked in and then I just,
I guess I just got sort of overtaken by this feeling, and
then I walked straight to the back of this small skinny,
little convenience store, and they got the small little book
shelf of books, and there's the popol vuh in there.
So I bought it and then I was able to put direct quotes in
there and you know, for things like on the Isabel de Orton door
for me, you know, something and other supporting thing like vac
back who cake clicks is which is the the key shamaya sort of
equivalent to Satan, so yeah. So, those kind of bizarre things
I want to ask you, what's the connection between you know,
these Nephilim these Watchers of old and modern Cole.
Well, that's a fairly large question.
So I'll try and not make a, you know, a to our answer.
Because it's just, it's got so many different things to touch
on in a such great question, but I'll try and sort of condense it
down. So, if you look at the Modern
Cults, typically you've got to kind of Cults that were familiar
with ins ones are the Cults. That have gone sort of wayward
and Christianity, so they might be an apocalyptic cult doors,
you know, like Eugene, you know, maybe like a Jamestown called
things like that and then you have the Cults that are the
polytheist Cults, which isn't necessarily a cult.
It's more of a polytheist religion.
And if that's what we're talking about and I think that's what
you're kind of asking is that this goes right back to the
beginning of, you know, the age of humankind and then again
starts And after the flood, when we're talking about Watchers as
they would understand it, a polytheist, halt versus and
alien cult or methos, they would be talking about the same kinds
of individuals, but at a different sort of level of an
advanced being. So an alien Mythos on a watcher,
which would be like an Anunnaki which would be an alien.
That's very, very Advanced. Whereas a Watcher in a
polytheist cult would be a very, very Very powerful God and or as
we would understand that and Christianity, one of the sons of
God or one of the fallen angels that would have reproduced with
a human female to produce hybrid humans and angels that look just
like them and where they're Divine rulers on the earth.
So the Watchers are also, the people who would have provided
the ancient knowledge, and a lot of the sort of intellectual
Dynamite for the religion and the worship thereof and it's a
knowledge cult. When you're talking about
Watchers, these are those that show up in Genesis 6 and
although they're called the sons of God in Genesis 6 you get a
group of beings called Watchers in first.
A knock that are surrounding the Throne of God, as being Angels,
like the troub. Mm, which would be as a take one
of them. Are Earthly Anunnaki forms.
They can have a single bird head with a human body and a vice
versa as opposed to the four phases and typically, that's
understood as an Annunaki Watcher, but you also have the
seraphim Watchers, and seraphim are the ones who work before the
Altar. And they are like ministers
before God and they have a fiery look to them because they work
amongst the fiery stones and they have a serpent face and you
So have an a couple other groups, you have the archons or
the archangels, I'm sorry. And you have the ones that are
in the throne and they're typically called Thrones in
early Christianity. The word is a fan even though
that Enoch you knows. And that's the word that goes
back to those, cherubim will like angels that are in the
wheels and Ezekiel 1 and Ezekiel 10.
And that word goes back when it's talking about those beings
not to gilgal as in. Gilgal Ralph sheheen which gal
is wheel and you'll have good values in the original Hebrew
there, but the ones that are talking about, the beings goes
back to the word Hebrew word ofan and I am is the male
plural. And those are all called the
Watchers, the ones who do not sleep, and they surround the
throne and it is the seraphim Watchers that are thought in
most accounts, to be the ones who originally created the
Nephilim or the Giants as a recorded in the King James
version, in Genesis 6:4, those fallen angels, and the term,
Watcher actually shows up in the Bible for times and Daniel for
and they are angels that are sent by God.
And so there's loyal Watchers and they have to do with the
governance of the earth and carrying out messages from, from
God there, Rob just as the Watchers in the antediluvian
Epoch where the Gods Is that ruled over the Earth?
So they had to deal with governance and they had dealt
with the religious aspect, providing the religion,
providing the the knowledge and what's really kind of
interesting. As we look at that word Watcher,
that goes back to the Hebrew word a year.
It is a word that means that those who are awake.
And so, what we learn from sort of cross-referencing Enoch with
The ancient Hebrew text and understanding we don't have
original Hebrew text first Enochs and that's why it's
apocryphal in. It also has a few Corruptions in
it. Yeah.
But we can see that it has a direct parallel with words like
that that are that you know, come from a Hebrew lexicon.
And also, you know, we also have some verses that sort of go
match up very, very well liked in Jude.
So there's, I think, I mean, I like first Enoch a lot.
I justwe just Don't have that Hebrew Manning manuscript to
substantiate it so those are the Watchers as they're understood
and in the alien methos they have the same roles.
They're just not considered gods.
So it sounds like these guys are the center stage of all the old
cult. They operated thousands of years
ago was because of the influence of these Watchers.
Yeah, you know the Watchers are working directly tandem with
demons in the dark spiritual world today.
I know the Bible talks about certain Angels being chained
under the river. I think it's the river Euphrates
if I'm remembering correctly. So do you think that those
angels would be considered Watchers as well that are chain
under there? And how many incursions do you
see just in the Bible alone of these entities coming down and
you know tampering with DNA and correcting our culture?
When we look at how many incursions were not given an
exact number? Amber.
Okay, but what we are provided is that in Genesis 6 1 through 4
is that they went to daughters of men and took wives and did so
again and, you know, and continued to do so is kind of
what we understand from that. So there would have been more
incursions and Creations of these Giants Before the Flood
and one presumes that maybe. Some of the other angels that
had a different kind of look to them.
May have also violated the laws of creation to put it.
Put it mildly through creating procreating the these these
monsters because these were giants.
I also think that we have a second incursion After the
flood. However, I kind of fall from a
Biblical perspective because it fits the Bible, the best in
terms of how the angels would survive the flood because they
didn't have to that way. And it's not that a rule that
out or a couple of the other theories in terms of how giant
show up, it just seems to fit the Bible better scripturally,
but what we do know is we get accounts After the flood.
So they come from somewhere and the ref, I eme are the names of
the Giants after the floods. So Nephilim only shows up three
times in the Bible and once in Genesis 6:4, for the word Joy,
And then twice. The number is 1333 where you
have the embellished part of the report of the spies going into
Canaan. Yes, yes.
And they're embellishing the details that are provided, just
for that. And so, they're using the term
Giants to describe the anakim that they're the children of
Giants Well, earlier on their, the sons of the anakim.
And so, that's where the embellishment comes in.
And so, the Nephilim were Thought to be bigger than the
ref. I even so they're using that to
scare the people and we know that Hakeem are rough.
I am because in Deuteronomy to where it lists, many of the
rough, I am Nations. The word giant, they're always
goes back to the word Rafa and you get the I am plural and
that's rough. I am we actually get rough.
I am used a few times in the Bible, one being in Genesis 14
in the war of giants. So that between the Kings of
East in and the kings of Sodom, it's called the war Fork Kings
against five and in many accounts, but it's actually a
complete giant were giant Kings coming in to war with the Giants
who are helping the hybrid humans that they have created.
So hybrid rough, I am human in the Canaanite tribes but they're
dealing, the Mesopotamians are also fighting the Giants in the
Mount, Hermon region. They're fighting the Giants and
southern part of the Covenant land like the Corinne and the
amalekites beam and as well as the hybrids like the amorites
that are included in there and also the sodomite Kings who are
probably rough, I am Kings but those would be hybrid human
Canaanites that are living amongst them.
Yeah, I mean I would agree with there had to be a second
incursion because they're just the story of David and Goliath
alone and I know that's such a well-known story.
But Goliath had what? Four brothers.
Yes he did. Yes, he did.
All from Giant. Isn't that interesting that
David stops and picks up five? Smooth Stones.
He was about as business was me, he was gonna go for all five.
He was it's not that he thought he was going to miss.
Absolutely, we know there's five Kings.
They're because the Philistine Empire was centered around a
pentapolis of cities, five cities with Kings and also they
had a council of Kings, the Lords of the Philistines that
had several different kinds of hi.
Hybrids and Giants that were amongst that ruling Council.
But they had a ruling King in a warrior and Goliath was from
gath. He was a get tight.
Yeah, and so, David knew that he was going to may have to kill
all five that day, but he only had two had to kill one.
And you only had to use one smooth stone that he picked up
and Goliath. He is six cubits and a span and
we get all of This misinformation that goes out
through the churches that says he wasn't really any bigger
than, maybe eight feet and that might be an embellishment.
I just hate it. When our church leaders are
saying, the Bible is an accurate just it's crazy.
Six cubits is the standard Cube. It is 18 inches but if he was a
king which he was, I think the king of gas then it would it be
21 inches. But either Dimension, that is
going to come out from 9 feet, 9 inches to 11 feet.
Three inches while he would have been more than twice the size
and Nephilim were thought to be twice as wide.
And you know, where as humans don't have your well yeah.
Just as humans would have a 321 height to width ratio, they're
thought to have had a two to one with ratio.
And so in Isaiah 25, you get terrible ones that are being
talked about in the terrible ones.
As a recorded in the Bible are rough IM kings and we're free.
I'm Warriors just as the recorded in Ezekiel 32, as the
terrible ones who are now in the prison's along, the sides of the
Abyss because of the terror that they caused while on Earth and
these are the slain Kings. And so I'm going to come back to
that in a second. So if I don't, please remind me
of it. So in Isaiah 25, you have these
strong ones other terrible ones and it goes back to the Hebrew
word as, as which, Basically means very, very strong and
powerful and or Stout and so that strength and power comes
from the width of them. And so when we talk about, then
the Demonic aspect that's connected between angels and
Nephilim or roughing the connection comes pretty vividly
through Ezekiel 32. So the spirits of these bodies
because they've been slain on the Earth are locked in the
side. Of the Abyss with their parents
locked in the abyss and all different kinds of these
creatures as Pista. Sophia a Gnostic Gospel
describes them as and, you know, whether they're serpents and
Ange and lion-like and all of these other different depictions
that they're depicted as these ones who violated the laws of
creation Before the Flood. And if there was a second
incursion, they would have gone to the abyss as well for those
crimes. But not all angels are in
They're just the worst of the ones and the ones who violated
the laws against creation but the bodies of the Giants that
were created, they were not going to be immortal in the
physical world so in Genesis 6:3 in the creation of the Giants
narrative, Genesis 6, 1 through 4, you have God stepping in and
limiting life to 120 years because that Immortal Spirits,
not going to rest with these creatures that were just created
first Enoch. Talks about is is that the
Fallen Angels were able to pass on their DNA because they took a
physical form and they were able to pass on some of their you
know, super natural sort of carrot sticks and that included,
a counterfeit Immortal spirit and that's why it's called a
counterfeit spirit in the Bible is called other things elsewhere
in the Gnostic Gospels. But using that term when The
bodies were no longer Immortal, they eventually died or they
killed themselves because they live to be great ages and
eventually the body would wear out.
But because it's a counterfeit Spirit, their bodies weren't
permitted to go to sleep, like humans do and there weren't
permitted to go to heaven. So they wander the earth, except
for those worst of the ones, the terrible ones who are locked in
the sides of the Abyss. So you roll that forward.
And Jesus is now Encountering these demons Spirits, right?
And they're afraid that he's going to sentence them before
their time, these aren't Angels. These are the roaming demon
spirits that are possessing humans, and possessing even
animals. Because we know this is a
different encounter than with angels who have the ability to
Avatar, be an Avatar 2 and Avatar, but that's more of a
symbiotic relationship. Scriptural example, would be
Satan entering Judas to give him the key.
Courage to portray age Jesus. So we do have seen entering
Judas as an example, and maybe he did that as well with the
nakash serpent, in the time of Eden, we don't know.
But my speculation is he probably did demons.
If they want to interact in the physical world, they need a
physical body. They need what's called a noite
catarrian, which is a dwelling place for the spirit, that's the
soul and the body. Just as The Angels left Heaven,
they left their habitat, that's the Hebrew.
That's the Greek word or you could Terrian, which means the
dwelling place for the spirit. So they had a dwelling place for
their spirit in heaven. They can be in the physical
world and still be in spirit form.
But if they want to take a physical form, they need to
create for themselves. A soul, and a spirit soul, and
body for their Spirit to dwell in.
And that's would be how they would be able to procreate with
humans. Females.
Yes, really interesting. I mean, I'm really following you
close there. I think the Apostle Paul in the
New Testament says the angels that disrobed of their former
State. I think it's in reference to the
okay, okay. Tyrion there makes me think
about when the demons not having a body because they wore out and
died and they're seeking some type of vessel to inhabit or
manipulate it. Reminds me Jesus is on the cross
and you know saying many strong Bulls of Bashan having
commoners. We see Romans there that are
ripping up his rags and we see No, his follow.
Some of the followers that are Weeping and watching him up on
the cross. And that's interesting to me
because we see Angels appearing in breaking bread with Abraham,
right? We see Angels appear in the
physical form. So it's really awesome to
highlight these things in the Bible because it gets me
excited. And I know there's other people
that would strongly disagree. So, think about this.
Then when you're talking about the Bulls of the Shan and the
crucifixion and also look at Ezekiel 39 in the Gog War, the
in Time. God War were it's going to be a
you know, the sacrifice of Michonne.
And you have the mighty ones that are there and the mighty
ones, that's the Hebrew word give, or for gibberish, I'm with
you, every girl, which is used to describe the mighty ones in
Genesis, 6:4 doesn't always describe a giant but in a lot of
cases it does. And what's also interesting is
you have the passengers or The Travelers depending on which
English translation that you're using there and that goes back
to the Hebrew word, a bar to pass over and that these
passengers are crossing over. These Travelers are.
And what's interesting about that is in the ugaritic texts,
you have these Travelers, which are the valine gods, who created
The Ref, I heed God's according to the ugaritic texts and the
gods travel back and forth between the underworld as do the
ref. I am Kings and I'm going to have
an account of this in the new book and they do.
So at the time of the funeral and or a death and just as a bar
is thought to have several meanings but also crossing over
from Death, is part of its meaning.
These, this was one of the cities of the rough.
I am kings. That is in there.
Crossing back and forth between the underworld and the Earth at
the time of the funeral. Troll for a death of one of the
rough. I am King.
And if that term rough, I am in gilgal sort of hits you in the
head. When you as something that you
might want to dig in to understand that that means the
wheel of the Giants. And it's located at the foot of
Mount Hermon. Oh, wow, Invasion.
And it has hundreds of dolmens, which is a woman's.
Yes, which are portals to the other world.
The have heard their Gilbert talk about the dull.
Almonds. And I mean, there's just so much
there before I lose this question.
I really wanted to ask you this, though, these spirits that
demonic entities that are still roaming and lurking the Earth.
Do you think that there's any possible way that they can
inhabit technology? Like we see, you know, Robotics
and transhumanism coming to the Forefront.
Do you think they're at all capable of manipulating using or
even controlling technology because that would put a really
interesting Twist on like, 13, where the image was given life,
right? Yes.
Or are these talking Idols in the past that they have the
ability to, to a certain degree manipulate and do some things?
I think we look at modern technology, I think we need to
take a step back and under trying to not try and understand
is where is the knowledge coming from the build this technology.
Exactly. And it's being seemingly, guided
and advanced at a rate that We can't account for.
One would presume if that knowledge is being fed to them.
Like a lot of people say it is, including people doing the
research that they're talking with their Celestial Masters or
the great white Brotherhood, or aliens and mean, you get all of
these different sort of versions of it.
One would expect that they're going to build the technology to
be a dwelling place for the spirit to be able in some sort
of. Whether it's an electronic
format, which is would be sort of primitive to where they
really want to. Go but they would make it so
that the demons could actually enter into those new
technologies and interact in the world.
I think what they really want down the road is the Clone
bodies to have. So they're not wrestling with
another host Spirit. Wow.
I've always kind of felt like that to like, like ever since I
was a little kid, you know, I was a 90's, kid grew up in the
90s and, you know, my dad watched all the Terminator
movie, you know, all that cool stuff back then.
And, you know, it was kind of had that in the back of my Mind,
I didn't grow up in the Church of me.
We went you know, intermittently like most Americans do who say
they're Christians, you know, I had a really interesting
experience about eight years ago, that led me to surrender my
heart to the Lord, but when I was a kid growing up, I always
had that inkling, I guess you could say just something on the
back burner about technology and it being a gateway to something.
We build can't quite put words to.
Yeah, wow. Well, and and also, Enter in
that you get this name of Metatron that comes up for one
of these beings that is providing this knowledge.
And if people aren't aware of where that name Metatron comes
from, there are several books of books of Enoch, and in the third
Book of Enoch, which is very, very polytheist and interesting
for a read, but it doesn't match up very well with scripture.
It's got some nice crossovers with first Enoch, but it's
obviously, it's obviously a Theists ancient book or it is
been so corrupted. It's but anyways, in that third
book, you have Enoch which in this case is not going to be
Enoch, son of Jared of the sethji online is going to be
Enochs out of Kane. And it's amazing.
How many Christians forget about the fact that in the
genealogies. There's two Enochs.
Just like, there's two Lomax. And the Names are all very,
very, very close. So this is Enochs on a cane that
they're referencing, and he receives all of this knowledge
indoctrination from the fallen angels, and in doing so
transforms into an angel and very much like a Son of God or
son of man as in Jesus sort of imagery as he's described.
And it's this knowledge that he develops because He's the one
who's going to create the seven sacred Sciences of the ancient
Epoch that is not delayed or merge with the illicit Knowledge
from Heaven. That accelerates that knowledge.
That brings about the apocalypse, knowledge of things
that they were doing and what has survived for us to see that
would be whether or not it's pyramids that they take credit
for or Machu Picchu or all of these ancient megalithic sites
that we can't create today. Absolutely.
That they were able to create in the credit that to Enoch seven,
sacred science as, and actually, Freemasonry actually directly
links it in their history to the knowledge of the pyramids being
used knowledge of Enoch, used to build the pyramids.
And so this seems to me is that kind of direct connection,
somehow some way that we're catching up to the level of
technology that they had to just completely destroy the Earth and
We look at what it says in the flood account where the Earth
was corrupted. And there's this violence.
And of course they were Godless and they didn't expect the
flood, but it's that word. The whole earth was corrupted.
That is the Hebrew word Chicago with, and that means more than
just violence, it means ruined. It means destroyed, it means
decayed, and all sorts of words that are used to define Chicago,
with, in that sort of manner, and it says, the whole earth was
like that, that means all the plant genomes and The animals
and the humans work somehow corrupted.
And I think that was plant genomes and I think that was the
DNA that was corrupted and that's why God would have called
the not only the eighth to be on the ark because he knew the ones
that weren't corrupted also representatives.
Members of each species that were not corrupted to go on the
ark to start anew and I think that's what we're seeing now.
Now, just as you get the overarching sign of the end
time, that follows the Fig Tree generation in Matthew 24.
And Mark 13 about, it'll be like the days of Noah and I think
that includes all of the life of Noah and it's exacting words
that you get there in the New Testament, that Jesus uses that
is copied down in Greek, and translated into English, and
then you go back. To Genesis 929, it has the same
words, the days of Noah and they were 600 years before the flood
and 350 Years After the flood. And I find that really
interesting if that's an over arching sign that we need to
learn more about, then you go to Luke's account on that.
Not only does he mention the days of Noah but it's also like
the days of lot when the angels went to Sodom to destroy the
City by fire. And I think it's a transition of
Anna. Connection to the end time,
Apocalypse of fire and the previous Apocalypse of water
with the flood. But there you have angels that
take the body of a physical human, the recognizes humans and
also as angels and they're wanting to have sex with them.
And the point of that is that if you can take any sort of
physical characteristic you want in the earth, then I don't know
whether or not, they're wanting to Homosexual sex or they wanted
to have them change their form or they wanted to have them have
sex with their wives but possibly to create new ref.
I am because they would have been very, very familiar as a
city of the rough. I in Kings in the time of the
Genesis 14 war and this happens just shortly afterwards that
fallen angels have the ability to create the ref.
I am just as the Bali I am were the ones in ugaritic texts.
Who created the rough, I eme After the flood.
Oh my God. I'm on the edge of my seat.
All right, hold on. And and and so then when you get
into Jude when they're talking about strange flesh maybe a
certain answer some questions, right?
Yes. Wow.
All right, so and that strange flash, just throw some more fuel
on the fire. When you take that back to
Greek, it actually means like a different kind or a different
species. Yeah, an Abomination, right?
In this out of God's order. It's crazy man.
Okay, so what the timeline I got a couple more questions I got
asked you now I know there's been an increase in sightings
now, okay, I get it. Not, everybody's being honest
and transparent when they say they've seen something, whether
it be in the sky, something appears their bedroom, whatever
some type of Cryptid, some type of encounter, not everybody's
being honest, but even if one or two people are, literally
telling the truth, we have a problem on our hands.
Now, I'm an experienced, are I shared a story with l.a.
Marzulli, which he then confirmed about one of his
partners that had spent some time in a location that was
common to the story I shared with him.
What are your thoughts on Cryptids, man?
I mean, are these like some type of, you know, vassal that the
the dark ones are manipulating or do you think they're, they're
trying to recreate as some type of ancient vessel?
I mean what do you do with that? A lot of people have different
definitions for what It is and is that, you know, I mean it
goes from all sorts of crazy types of beings, right?
Yeah. I mean reptilians dog man.
Sat yeah the list goes on and on.
Yeah. So I think there's a mean in
that whole broad spectrum. I think there's room for the
possibility of all of this but with the ones that I've been
able to connect more of the dots on would be, you know, the ones
like the dog men, you know. And the sir Serpentine ones and
ones like that. So few freaks, who had, I think
they call them to sign of cephalus, which was the head of
a dog on a man, even in ancient Greece and then Anubis media,
right? Well, Anubis actually, and of
course, that's one of the parent gods.
And he creates through human females, a whole race of dog
Warriors, and Anubis. It has the face of A dog or a
jackal. Yeah.
Right. And his in the city that they
lived in was actually called sign off police.
Oh my God. Yeah.
And these were famous for years both Before and After the flood
and we get these accounts through historians.
Yeah down and I've got a three-part document on this for
the dog, man. But this is a sort of a
consistent sort of Doctrine. These these Watcher type of
angels and understanding that there are different.
There are other angels that are also in the Rebellion that are
reproducing with, with human females.
So, if you get like, the lion men of Moab in the Bible and or
the lion, like people of GAD and These are Nephilim type of
creatures that are scripturally take that word lying like just
Les arioch, goes back to lying. Like as one of those Four Kings
in Genesis, 14 and connected to the, the, the Hebrew word for
lying as every, and sometimes, even erielle.
And typically when you get that sort of spelling, it's going to
mean line of God or Angels name. Just as you have me like Angels
names ending in Michael, or Gabriel or on the Fallen side.
You would have liked Azazel. And so Al tends to be a Hebrew
ending for an angel's name. And when we look at the, you
know, the linemen of Moab these were Fierce Warriors just as
Nephilim and rephaim in the dog warriors were Fierce Warriors
and so you've got go. God's in the pantheon like
nergal that's recorded in the Bible who was depicted as a lion
face. God you've got ma he's and fast
and sekhmet and other gods in the Egyptian Pantheon.
So it to me, it makes sense that you would have different kinds
of angels producing these types of beings and just throw one
more in there, you have the A key that I said were like the
true them and that's the bird like one's just as you have the
Anunnaki being gods at a bird. Like just as you have horses
being a falcon God and there's there's other bird face God's.
There's Beings that are created in not, we don't get accounts of
them in the Bible, but they're called the Tengu created from
the Tengu gods and Southeast Asia, and they produced Warriors
and Nephilim that look just like them.
So you get actual statues even to this day in Japan of what
they look like. So if people wanted to do, do do
Google te and gu you're going to may be able to bring up some of
these pictures and in the Keisha, Maya popol, vuh, you
have thes about Which were these owl face kind of the demigods
and there was one damn one branch of the Isabel book called
The camazotz, it's see, ama 0tz, so people Google that they're
going to get a picture that looks like Batman.
That's because camazotz were the house of the bat Gods?
Dude, this is crazy. No wonder why every single
culture has this stuff etched in rock, you know.
It's like they weren't Trying to deceive us like people thousand
years ago. We're not trying to just see the
future Generations over etching in rock and recording in their
ancient history. What they were encountering,
what they were witnessing but there are probably, they were
called demigods because they're yeah, offspring of a human
female and a God, as the demigod was the ancient meaning for
demigod and they were worshipped as God.
So they were just putting down for the record and for the
narcissistic aspect of the Gods and the demigods, you know who
they were, and what? They looked like so, yeah.
They I don't think these were fanciful in for, you know,
things coming out of their imagination.
But you also have all sorts of other creatures, right?
And in the hierarchy of the rebellious ones you've got the
little people that are there are involved that are the Elementals
and there's three categories of Elementals and one of them it
would be mischievous ones like, you know, Leprechauns.
And then you've got good looking ones.
And then you've also got the ugly ones which are the Gnomes.
And there's also a fourth class that is the salamanders and
those are reptilians and they are larger than the little
people. So the Gnomes for example play a
large role as the lowest level of the hierarchy in the
rebellious hierarchy. So the salamanders would be
above in the Nephilim would be above and then you've got the
whole hierarchy of Rebellious Angels because the host of
Heaven, you take that back to the Hebrew Sabha and means Army,
which has ranked so, oh, wow, yeah, it makes a whole lot of
sense, and just another point, the parent gods, and their
parent gods, and all the different Pantheon's, they
disappear because The Offspring Gods, overthrow them, it would
follow the Greek narrative, right, where you have.
Yeah, pardons fighting, you know, yeah, or the Sumerian, or
it's in all of it, but You can't kill someone that's Immortal,
they just sort of go away. And then the sons are The
Offspring Gods like Zeus and Bay a little Cyrus and honky they
all rise up to to take that position because it's an army.
But those parent Gods weren't killed, they were put in the
abyss for their crimes. Those are the antediluvian ones.
And even though their offspring gods were around before the
flood, they probably didn't create those violations against
creation but because they took over Again after the flood so in
the Greek you've got like Zeus who is the father of Hercules,
which is a post alluvion giant as opposed to antediluvian.
I think or do sometimes I go both ways in terms of when he
created it but because of some of the inconsistencies in the
polytheist accounts but you have those ones that disappear.
After the flood as well, like the volume just sort of
disappear they're being worship, but they're, they're no longer
interacting that's because I think they violated the law.
Laws of creation and then they went to to the abyss.
So when we look at what was going on with the Fallen Angels,
not only were they creating these beings through some sort
of copulation, but they were also able to create Chimera type
of animals, through DNA manipulation, which The Book of
Enoch talks about the mixing of animals and Mexican plants,
right? Yes, it wouldn't be out of the
out of the question for them to be up to the same old dirty
tricks that they were back then now, but on a smaller scale.
L, and the Bible I believe is the word of God.
I believe, it means what it says and says what it means like,
Chuck Missler would say it's a post diluvian Angels.
Probably after the second incursion, that weren't the
rebellious ones that weren't put into the abyss would be saying,
hey, we may be doomed, but we don't have to go to the abyss.
So what we're going to do is we're going to teach this
knowledge to humans so that they do it for us.
Just like we used to be like just like these humans to
slander God. That's why they're humans are
called be. Beasts.
And part of the Beast Empires and the hybrids will do the same
sort of thing the demigod Nephilim and rephaim are so real
quick. I didn't want to forget this
question. I've had in my head for you now,
Dagon, bright use the god of the Philistines.
He's sometimes depicted as like the lower portion of a fish or a
must like he has a fish que pone or if it's suit do you think
that that was some type of like acknowledgement of?
Yes, there was a flood from this God but Dagon was able to
survive thrive in the flood even if you think that's a direct
hit. Against Yahweh, the god of
creation. Well, I mean Dagon is kind of
part of the Philistine understanding of the pantheon
and Dagon tends to be more of a post diluvian god than before.
I don't think he's the part of the original.
Oh, Annie's, which also Before the Flood, provided knowledge
and civilization. There's a lot of as you look at
the translations that are coming out for day gone as being a
fish. God, there's a lot of people
think that maybe that should be reptilian, it could be, your
could not be. But what we do know is, this is
whether it's before the flood and I'll use this as is the
easiest example, is you have Aya Pettis who is a parent God, who
created the Giants, Gog, Magog and lb on as a just a few that
he created. Wow, he Is the god of the sea.
Okay. And Poseidon takes over
afterwards and so Dagon is very much like Poseidon or a non key
as opposed to a god of the heavens which would be on Leo
vs. Donkey which would be Zeus
versus Poseidon being on the Earth or the water there is they
have responsibilities in the Realms of in the hierarchy.
Right. So I think I think it's Just a
different name for the same kind of God, that's recorded after,
you know, after the flood and just as all of the Gods After
the flood, their personification, to having the
same positions that they moved up in rank to the parent God.
So they're like an allegory for the parent.
God. And then you look at the Current
gods of the Egyptians, and you've got all sorts of
strange-looking creatures crocodiles, type gods in
serpent, like a gods. And then, in the Sumerian path,
you're on the parent. God, you've got, you know,
Leviathan like Gods like ATM at and abzu as being, you know, the
husband of Tiamat and Tiamat is, you know, essentially described
the same way as Leviathan is in the Bible and get this TMI.
W is the who creates the Scorpion beings that are used to
keep the lower gods in line, but G gets killed, I think goes to
the abyss and the Scorpion beings look and and as their
inscribed on reliefs in the Middle East, they have the same
description on the relief and as a written down, as what's coming
out of the Abyss with apollyon, when the abyss is open and they
had the power to destroy the Earth, And so they were also
individuals that guarded the sun temples and the passages to the
underworld were the, for the abyss is located.
And Tim, I had a husband, absolute.
And Tiamat is, as I said, an equivalent type of creature is
described in the Bible of Leviathan, that also had
multiple heads and lived in the sea and created all sorts of
different beings. And also was killed just as
Leviathan was. And so there's a lot you can
make a strong case that one of the parent Gods might be Satan
and Tiamat was one of his wife's and in the end time is recorded
in Isaiah. That Leviathan is going to be
killed again. So he first he goes to the abyss
and then to the Lake of Fire you know all this really has me
thinking like from the macrocosm So, the micro cop, kazim of all
these different things. Like Jesus really saved us from
a lot more than we know, you know, he's really conquered a
lot more than I think. We can wrap our heads around
just taking a dive into some of these topics with you.
It's, it's got my head spinning, I mean, same thing with Derek
Hilbert, what I had him on my head was spinning.
I'm like there's so much information.
This is great. It really makes me want to sit
down and look at you know, peer-reviewed research to read
more books on these topics from Well respected gentlemen, just
like yourself Gary. I got one more question for you
here and what is your thoughts on the uh, you know, all these
stories from underground military bases?
Being inhabited by extraterrestrials or her foreign
entities of some sort. He find any truth in any of
these testimonies that kind of range you know all over the
place at this point gone. Yeah they are, they're kind of
in that same Zone as all the stories that come out of
Antarctica. Yeah.
So you know I think we have to
be careful with it. I think there's you know we can
speculate on on it. I think what we do know is they
have underground bases and whether or not they built them
or there were there before. We do know that they've got
those types of bases and the consistency in the stories in
particularly with, you know, the reptilian one very much sounds
like that, salamander Elemental or perhaps in a cache serpent
that was maybe perhaps saved by the fallen angels.
That some of them were saved or they illegally recreated them
and maybe that's why we have that fourth class with the
salamanders in the Elementals and also there's Of Nephilim
being held in stasis down there. And we also know that there are
many underground cities whether or not its Global tacky many
underground cities in Mexico, all over the world.
It's not an unknown and common phenomena that nobody has an
adequate explanation for. So we have all of that sort of
brewing and then we sort of Link in like, in Revelation 6, for
example, where they think it's the day of the Lord with the
Raffles and armor. Again, it's not, but all the
kings of the earth, go into the caves and I think that might be
a reference to these places for protection.
Just as those may have been places of protection.
Maybe for the flood somehow to in maybe answers how some of
these creatures might may have survived the flood, not my
position, but I recognize that, that might be a possibility.
Yeah. And you link that in with that,
we have that overarching sign. Of it will be like the days of
Noah and somehow some way I think we're going to have an
impact Nephilim in the end time just as we're going to have an
impact of the Fallen Angels and we know that because you have
these rebellious Angels being released in Revelation 9 and
then you have the war in heaven, that happens at the midpoint of
the last seven years, and you have all of these other angels
that haven't been sent to the abyss that have been in.
ER, acting and working with the polytheist forces throughout
history in the background as with the roaming demons.
So I think we're going to see all of that sort of come to a
head. So now, if you can imagine that
these polytheists forces are, you know, globalist forces that
are trying to bring about the end time because they want this
rendezvous with Destiny to win the battle against God, to win
their freedom, and their diluted.
By the fallen angels to believe that even though they know it's
not Not true. They are working with these
polytheists forces to bring this about and that comes through the
Beast Empires, that control everything.
And you know Paul was very clear in explaining to us that we're
fighting both the visible and the invisible and the Flesh and
the spirits. And they are all trying to
ensure humankind doesn't reach their Destiny and so they are I
think Working with these forces of.
There's so many different kinds when you get into the hierarchy
of the angels as what we've been referencing that they would be
preparing for this rendezvous with Destiny with all of their
allies. And so it would make sense that
they have to keep them hidden and underground locations would
make a lot of sense. Wow, that's a really detailed
and an excellent answer and view on that.
It all kind of clicks together. You know, dude you're a wealth
of knowledge. It was an honor to be able to
ask you some of these questions that have been floating in my
head. I really liked your approach and
your perspective, you definitely have put the time and it shows
man. I just really thank you for
being here and taking this time and and you know once again
Sorry, about trying to get everything, figured out your the
beginning. Somebody in the Airways
definitely didn't want us having this recording tonight and
probably everything going wrong, that good?
Yeah, that's the usual when we get into topics like this.
So and, you know, one of the things I like to do in, give
some very long answers, but people want, I think people want
more meat more details in and so instead of just sort of alleging
it, I like to give If you know the context and where that
information comes from and so when I put out a document for
people to read I put the footnotes in.
There were the sources come from or in my book The Genesis 6
conspiracy. There's over 100 pages of
endnotes. You can verify where I'm getting
my information from and that's so respectable because for so
long. I'll says of people have been
quenched of good information and good research and You know,
Hollywood's been entertaining us with these half-truth, from
these, crooked and perverse ideas and the whole entire world
chases after the spiritual wickedness, that is currently in
the rollers and principalities powers that are operating.
So to be able to have a Biblical approach and to try to make
sense of these things. I don't think any of us really
have, has it all figured out but man you know you read through
the gifts and I think it's second Corinthians you know,
there's a gift of teaching, you know shepherding right.
There's all these different Gifts.
And there is a place. I think the body of Christ
really needs to realize, there's a place for this information.
It shouldn't be all day every single day, non-stop vampires
and ghosts. But like there's definitely a
place for this. I'm one of those guys that you
know I got saved in a courtroom right outside of Philadelphia
Pennsylvania. And I remember asking God, I
said, what do I do with? You know, like the Ghost
Encounters and the things I've seen, you know, shooting into
the sky like God, you you know, I had such a Weak perspective of
the Bible because I didn't grow up reading the Bible and have a
strong background on it. So I really wanted to know.
God, do you cover these topics? Do you have authority over all
of these strange things that seem to be running rampant and
it's awesome to see his patients.
And the journey. He's allowed me to be on for the
last eight years now. So this is exciting as I know
there's a lot of other. I get people coming up to me,
Gary. They're like These are the same
questions I have. Thank you for asking that,
right? We're like it's so important
that we take some time and we allow each other to share this
information and it's been an honor.
It's been an honor to have you on the show.
Well thank you. And you know the frustrating
part is that you're not going to get these answers for the most
part from the churches. I don't teach, they don't teach
prehistory properly and they don't teach prophecies so
they're really leaving people. If this is indeed the Fig Tree
generation then they are failing their flocks.
Absolutely well why don't you tell the audience where they can
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You get a hold of me and I will get back to you in on my website
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I got so many other questions and anytime just a matter of
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