Welcome back to the show everybody.
I'm so happy that you're here with me again for another
episode. I have an excellent show
prepared for you guys. I have Nate here.
He's coming to us from a cabin deep within the heart of the
Canadian wilderness. He is the host of midnight
mystery. He's radio, and he also has his
own research company called Imperial research and
investigations. He is the former lead
investigator for move font of the Canadian chapter and
overall. He's a really cool guy.
He cares about this research. He has a ton of experience.
Has he shares some stories? This is an interview /
conversation. It really is a fun episode.
We don't hone in on just one topic as I'm capturing these
awesome conversation. Taking the journey here on the
millennial Mustard Seed. Pod cast, this is definitely
worth your time. I'm not going to waste any more
time. We're going to jump right into
this episode. Are you guys ready?
I'm ready, that's good. Okay, I got an excellent episode
here for you guys. I have Nathan here from Midnight
Mysteries radio. He's coming to us from the heart
of the Canadian voter notice everything that he's going to be
sharing with us tonight. Nothing is planned.
You guys know the deal. We just kind of let the spirit
guide connecting with brothers and sisters all around the world
at this point, trying to connect the dots encourage each other
and unveiled the darkness. So Nathan, welcome to the show,
man. Thank you so much for being
here. I'm very excited to be here.
Thanks for inviting me. So tell us a little bit about
yourself. How you became the Nathan, the
midnight? Drew's radio, sure, I think now,
more than ever, you know, Christians need to be having
these conversations and need to be aware of what's going on
behind the scenes and years ago. I grew up in a Christian home
and you know, Deliverance Ministry.
Spiritual warfare were topics that I heard about quite often
but had never really encountered until I got out of high school
and started going to Bible school and it's funny.
I never intended on becoming. A pastor.
My dad was a pastor and his dad was a pastor and it just kind of
goes back and I'm like, I'm never going to be a pastor but
he ended up becoming a pastor, but before I came a pastor, I
had gone through my private investigation training to be
certified and licensed because I've always had an inclination
towards the investigative method investigative methodology.
And I thought that might be your dime, I would be interested in
and I was talking with the head of one of our Justice
Department's here in Alberta who was a relative of mine and he
just brought up that, you know, it's not uncommon for people
like psychics and mediums and which has to submit tips for
investigations and you know, a lot of them would lead nowhere
but someone some of them would lead to the outcome of cases.
Whether it was missing children being found or bodies found or
criminal convictions and I was kind of shocked and so I asked
him you know how many Christians are on that list and he said
none were and it felt like a punch to the gut because I'm
like whoa hold on cuz biblically we have Daniel Wright.
Who is interpreted? King Nebuchadnezzar's dream.
He was put in charge of all the witches and mediums and
psychics, and and quote-unquote, Wiseman of the time.
Yeah. And then there's, you know,
Esther there's Joseph, there's all these different leaders
throughout the old and the New Testament, who were put in
positions of authority, based off of either dream
interpretation or favor in the courts or other ways other
testimony. And I'm like, why isn't that
happening today? Like what In the New Covenant
were filled with the spirit of the Living.
God shouldn't we have the most accurate information, shouldn't
we have you know, the first Insight on anything to do with
the darkness in our world and it set me on this journey myself
and another close friend, who felt the same way.
You felt the same conviction to figure out how we could begin to
start that process. How we could be the modern-day
Watchmen the you know the builders like My talks about
where they're building, but at the same time they've got their
sorts to right. Yeah.
And watch men are supposed to warn people of when the the
swords coming, and I can't recall it.
You GI you, should I try and be prepared when I quote scripture,
but punch it in to Google or your Bible app.
And there's a few verses that talk about how if the Watchman
sees the sword coming and doesn't warn the people.
God will hold the blood of the people on the watchman's head.
And yeah, that's always scared me because you know whether I
planned it or not, God seemed to lead us into this area of, okay,
how do we be modern a Watchman? How do we be the light in the
darkness? How do we be the ones who are
hearing from the Holy Spirit? And, and working with the
government in these different areas and it said, On this
journey where we started an investigation company, period,
research and investigations. And we were, we are prepared.
We were amped. We were ready to, you know, be
part of top-secret briefings on these other things and what
started happening because it would take hours to go through
this. This whole thing was, we started
getting calls from people who were looking for deliverance,
essentially they had, you know, torment in their homes or Just
really demonic stuff happening in their lives.
And so we'd start to go through their homes, and we start to
pray with people, and it was awesome.
We start seeing fruit, but we're kind of like, well, this isn't
really what we wanted to do, but we're trusting the Holy Spirit
and we eventually started seeing is it is it okay that I'm just
kind of going through all of this right now?
Absolutely man, keep going. This is great.
So we as we start going through people's homes, we discovered
that there were other groups that were going through people's
homes to try and help them. But these weren't Christian
groups, these were new age and a cultic groups.
And what's interesting is that the majority of them didn't
charge anything, they, they had a genuine heart to try and help
people. The issue is, they were tapping
into the wrong Source, right? They were, they were under their
eyes were veiled to which source they were. they were tapping
into and so we start to meet with these groups and get to
know them a bit and I was invited to speak at one of their
their meetings about the supernatural from a private
investigators perspective, somebody who has a background in
Private Investigations and so I went and then I was invited back
again because we have covered a range of topics before midnight
mysteries from you know UFOs to zoology to Ancient Giants and
side essentially go into these groups and and share about these
topics and what we found from our research and investigative
capacity. And this one particular time I
was invited back, I really felt like I was supposed to call out,
you know, these these Spirits, they were serving because they'd
always open up their home Cleansing Time in a prayer to
these various spirits and stuff. I felt like I was supposed to
You talked about how these Spirits were fallen angels and
put them on blast essentially. And yes, I was kind of, I was
kind of. Yeah.
And I was kind of mourning and grieving, cuz I'm, like, I've
built a friendship with these people.
In my heart, had really grow fond of them, right?
Because I love that, they had a genuine heart for 4 people.
And what's really cool is that they, you know, they already
believe that there's a world after this one right there.
They believe that there's more to life than this.
So there's So much closer than the everyday person who doesn't
believe in God, right? And so I was grieving because I
thought, you know, they were this was going to sever the
connection and I ended it ended up being nominated speaker of
the year, which was it was incredible and it was confusing
but yeah, after a while of doing these home cleansings and stuff,
we When we actually started getting approached with some
actual cases Beyond home cleansings, we have to stop and
pause because we had just fallen in love with going through
people's homes, and helping them.
And praying with them that were like, we need to make sure God
is calling us into the investigation field now because
just this has made us feel so alive and so humbling.
And so we there was a Ministry in the states that had heard
about what we were doing in Florida and they were in contact
with a with the owners of a haunted house in a different
state and this haunted house has been in all sorts of different
TV shows and movies. Discovery Channel, BuzzFeed.
I think National Geographic had an article about it one time and
the owners made a pile of money. But It got to the point where
they were feeling so much torment from owning this home
that they said, you know, we don't care how much money we're
making off of it. We need help.
We need, we need to be delivered of this.
And so this ministry in Florida, very generously, paid for our
plane tickets to this to this other state, they paid for
rental vehicle and they came with us and we met with this
couple and sat down prayed with them and You know, it was made
clear to them that unless they gave their life to a higher
authority, it would just get worse.
Like yeah, you need to be able to fill the home, otherwise the
thieves, the the spirits will return with with more.
And again there's a few different verses that talk about
how if you don't bind the strong man, or if you chase out The
spirits from your home, it'll, it'll come back if it's not
filled, right? Absolutely, any even, even in
the natural realm, there's no such thing as a void, right?
Any area that gets broken up or cleared ends up regrowing,
right? So they ended up getting saved
and we pray to the home and they sold it.
And if it was, this is an entirely different topic and we
don't have time to to dive into it today.
But this was in the middle of a solar eclipse to and there are
all sorts of other groups that were like, all sorts of other
occultic groups and new age groups that made that this was
like an open portal site. And we're there to like worship.
And, you know, carry out, hold on one second.
I'll go forward. Go forward.
I loving this right now. So like, I feel like I'm like
we're on this podcast episode and I got questions, but Don't
want to say a word. I just want to keep listening to
what you're saying I'm sorry. I'm just kind of talking like if
I'm talking too much, please let me know.
Like yeah, no I want I want you to just flow and just give us
exactly what we're supposed to hear these Back stories.
And these testimonies, they They've really let the audience
know. Hey, this is what I do, this is
what I know I Believe In Christ, right?
This is my experience. So it is really important to
call you to just allow you to do your thing there.
But I do want to ask you like how long ago was this?
What where's the timeframe at? So this is probably this isn't
2017. Like we started our
investigation company. Yeah, we started investigation
coming in 2014. Oh, Cam and all and the being in
the states for this house as was in 2017.
And all of this kind of leads up to how we started.
Midnight Mysteries. That's all I'm starting pack so
far, but yeah, that's that's where I'm coming from or keep
going. Yeah, definitely this is this is
really good. Sure.
So yeah, we end up praying through this home.
It was an amazing experience. We came back to Edmonton, came
back to Alberta and Covid hits a few years later and we had over
from 2017. When we went to this this
haunted house in the states, to 2020, we had continued to pray
with people go through homes. But we start getting involved in
some actual investigations to, with with different groups and
different organizations and could touch on some of those
later. But 2020 hits.
And These paranormal, some of these are called two groups
aren't able to meet in person anymore.
They had been meeting monthly to have different speakers in
ourselves included, and so they asked me to host their podcast
over covid and I was extremely humbled and I was like, you
know, I gotta, I gotta pray about it.
And so I sat down with our kind of core Ministry cheek team and
we prayed about it and I came back to this group and I said,
you know, I'm I'm happy to host the podcast.
Just be clear. I'm I get the say over what
topics we cover, you know, I'm not going to interview, you
know, certain people that talk about whatever Satanism.
It's, I made it clear that I had the final say of what what
topics we would choose. And so I ended up talking about
Ley lines and all sorts of other stuff and something amazing
started happening. I would do a Time.
Tuna at the end of each episode. And I would start talking from
my perspective as a Christian, as my perspective as a pastor
and people were being. Whoa.
Your your pastor and I'm like, yeah, and I started getting
messages of people who are like, you know, I They were ready to
give their lives to Christ and over a period of two years
during covid. We had about 25 salvations from
this new age Community. The head Pastor over my church,
came up to me he's like he's like what like what are you
saying to these people? He's like he's like we have to
be careful just and he was saying it an encouraging me he
was a mentor for me. He's like we have to be careful
that as you know speakers that were not you know, manipulate
manipulating people by being To charismatic and stuff.
I'm like listen, the last episode I did was about ghosts
and the one before that was about wendigos and UFOs.
I'm like I'm not preaching on these episodes, like this is
100% the Holy Spirit and it led us to being like okay These
groups started meeting in person again and we're like, okay, we
we've seen some incredible fruit from these podcast episodes.
We think we're going to start our own podcast and so we ended
up starting midnight Mysteries and we're trying to get a bit
more regular and get a bit more of a footing for it because
we're brand new to this this podcast world.
But that's been our journey thus far.
So there's so much flavor you're bringing into this episode
already. I wish we would see more of
this. Just this painting.
This is who I am. Yeah, I don't go around beating
people with the Bible commanding that you have repeat.
After me I just hear, you know, kind of like I'm Daniel and
Babylon and yes, Daniel didn't want to leave Babylon.
If I remember correct. That's true.
You're in Canada. Now, I wanted to ask you, were
you born and raised in Canada? My mom's side of the family is
All-American so I'm a I'm a dual Citizen and my dad's side of the
family is all Canadian. So I I've, I've got an American
passport and a Canadian passport, and I went to Bible
school for two years in the states and then finish the rest
of my degree here in Canada. So that is so cool, man.
I've never been to Canada and I can only imagine the difference
and in today's day, oh yes. Wow, that could be a whole other
episode. Well already, I literally feel
like I'm hoping they'll A Part 2 and it apart lie down the road.
I'm just, I really feel like you're going to bring a lot to
the table. It feels like every once in a
while, I'll get somebody on and I don't know a lot about you.
I heard you on fire theft radio with Chuck months back.
And like I said, I'm just What is going on here?
You know and obviously I looked up your podcast and stuff like
that and checked out some of your episodes from where I am.
I consider myself like a Watchman on the wall to an
extent on the show. Him my idea is let's just
connect and help each other understand dr.
Michael heizer would say the Bible was written by ancient
Hebrews to other ancient Hebrews right?
Like yep. It's not a modern you know so
it's 20 22 and we figured out the Bible like that.
Not really knowing what's going on here.
It's an ancient concept that I feel like entertainment and
Hollywood and this consumer mentality, and these Generations
that were watching literally unfold before our eyes.
It's striking like the end times, man.
So when I hear somebody come on in there, swinging the bat and
they're like, I don't care what you think, what you say this is
my experience I believe in the resurrection of the Christ.
I'm not sugarcoating. It or ashamed about it.
That's attractive to me even if some Pastors do tiptoe around.
These topics is I get a really weird vibe.
I'm just like, whoa, hold on. Like, yeah, I'll never there's a
secret backdoor to Christianity, like Shawn Carter would say and
only some people get in and I'm right.
No, let's put that on loudspeaker, you know, and but
enough of me talking, I wanted to ask you what was one of the
most significant experiences that you had doing this?
That never left you. Hmm.
I think one of our one of our first requests for wasn't a
cleansing per se, it was more prayer for a child, Deliverance
for child. And there was a friend of a
friend and this one friend had gotten saved, former big
sidekick here in Edmonton and he had a friend who was in the
police force here and his daughter and he was high up
there to his daughter. His five-year-old daughter had
been having these reoccurring dreams of a black dog with black
eyes following her around with her parents severed, heads
hanging from its jaws and should have these dreams almost
nightly. And they had taken her to
psychologists and psychiatrists, and therapists and nothing
seemed to get rid of these dreams and they couldn't figure
out what it was. And so he ended up recommending
us and we weren't there. And listen like Rod.
We we stepped up because we didn't notice anyone else was in
this field, but we have the time were like, we don't know what
we're doing, but we're praying that we're doing things, right?
And that the holy spirit is God, but like we can see how you
know, God chose the least, likely people throughout
scripture and it's just very humbling.
So went and met with this, this Couple and the daughter ended up
praying with the daughter and after a few different times, she
stopped having these dreams completely and they said, she
just started to flourish because she was starting to get enough
sleep at night or developmental leap started going back on
track. And it was just incredibly
humbling to be like, well, like this.
They had tried everyone, like, all of the modern-day Solutions
and nothing nothing was working. I sprang with her is what is,
what brought the healing and that was 100% through the Holy
Spirit and it was an open door to minister to them and that
would be one that's going to stick with me for, for a long
time. You know, it reminds me of the
scripture that says bearing ye one another's burdens and so
fulfill the law. There's nothing that bothers me
more than to see when kids are being tormented by these this
Darkness, this invisible enemy, that the World doesn't know how
to comprehend. Yeah, I hope that answered your
question because that's better be a testimony for a long time.
That's, that's powerful man. You were a part of mufon.
Is that accurate? Yeah, I'm still technically part
of mufon. Oh, wow, I'm still on their
website is their community relations director.
So have you noticed an increase in any of these strange?
I don't even know what they call them anymore.
It's a UFO one year and then it's a UAP, right?
Yeah. Lights in the sky.
I mean, I've had some experiences personally, I'd
really like to talk with you off hair about, but I want to know
from your research, and just everything that you've been a
part of, is there an increase as time goes on, like, over the
last couple of years? Where's this kind of always been
going on but it becomes a little more relevant.
Now, to the public it's both there is it's definitely
receiving a lot more public exposure, like especially now
that the Navy has Declassified videos.
Other countries are talking about at Frances.
Former Intelligence minister of intelligence.
I think his name is Ali on, Juliet, came out.
And talked about his experience with UFOs and his belief in them
being either interdimensional or extraterrestrial Canada's Former
Defense. Minister Paul Hellyer a pastor
year to go but he was hosting various conferences.
I think even wrote a book about UFOs and then yeah the
Department of Defense in the And the UFO disclosure bill in the
middle of the covid relief. Bill that was just kind of snuck
in there so it's definitely receiving a lot more public eye.
But at the same time when we go in to move on to case management
system, there's a huge spike in UFO reports and there's a
difference between UFO reports and the classification after an
investigation for UFO reports in where the Report remains
unidentified right? Because mufon investigator and I
was Alberta's. Provincial Chief investigator
for a couple of years. You try and debunk.
What it is, right? So you look at astronomical
events to see if, you know, it could have been a planet or
meteor or satellite planes balloons, all sorts of other
stuff, ah, drones now too because they're affordable.
But after it's all said and done, if it remains UFO, goes
into a few. My classifications for UFO and
we always received when I called repeat offenders for UFO
reports, these are people. These people are looking for
UFOs in the sky and they will see anything.
And I got photos or videos, I'm like look, you can see like
these are lights on an airplane. You can see from, if you Google
Earth lines, you can see that they're in the same place that
an airplane would have these lights and then and then we get
like farmers who have had absolutely no interest in UFOs
or paranormal, talk. Topics.
See something and they start googling and they come across
mufon's website and know they submit a report and you can tell
because they don't have any of the communities language or
verbiage right there like that. I don't really know what to call
it. I saw strange object in the sky
or I've had a cattle mutilation and the RCMP the One of the
investigation organizations here in Canada came out investigated
it and said, you know, what was this thing?
But they're like, we're generational farmers and we've
never had something like that happen.
Like it just doesn't make sense. So we started Googling for and
came across you guys. What do you think?
Yeah, we're seeing an increase in those types of reports,
people who have had no interest, they're not looking for random
objects in the sky so that they can say they've seen a UFO or
try and get a UFO report. Filed.
There's a lot of just regular old Jose submitting UFO reports
now because they've seen something really weird or
bizarre Nathan for me. Personally, I've had some
encounters over the course of my life but nothing like the last
few years. I'd like to say 2019 is when it
kind of started and the first podcast for me, most people
don't know. But this is actually my second
show on the first podcast was started in 2018 in 220. 19.
And I was just getting fed up with some of these
idiosyncrasies that were in a good light and some things that
we're going on in my private life that I was not a fan of and
how I would go and try to talk with pastors or other Christians
is that hey can you pray with me about this or do you know
anybody else with these kind of experiences and just kind of
getting shot down and feeling like I was compartmentalize and
judged and weird like this ain't it or something and but I was
praying and saying God what is going on?
Here and then talked with like Marzulli eventually and he's
like rebuked first ask questions later I'm like, oh I've been
doing that all wrong. Yeah, but the idea is is I
didn't want an experience and there's people that reach out to
me. Some of them.
I personally know some, I've never met just from this little
podcast here. Hey what do I do?
Experiencing this pray for me. It blows my mind because I feel
like the veil is so much thinner now than even five years ago.
Go because I remember feeling so alone and feeling kind of
awkward all the time about these questions on the back burner and
now it's almost relevant among social classes that I never
would have figured here in Southeastern Pennsylvania.
There's strange things happening.
I'm really curious about your role in time with mufon.
What exactly were you guys doing with you being a Christian?
Was that like controversial at all?
Did they even know how does that work?
Yeah. So I'm sure At some point they
found out I'm Christian, but I tried to remain objective,
right? Like if, if there was
opportunities to minister to someone or pray to someone or
felt like I should, I would take it off, move on to official
channels. So I didn't feel like I was kind
of abusing my position if it makes sense because I want to
remain honorable to them. But oftentimes a big.
Hey, I'd love to continue this conversation.
Do you mind if I email All you for my personal email, or call
you, or text you. And and so there'd be times
right back. Hey, this is my interpretation.
This is what I found, this is what I've researched, this is
what I've read about. This is what I believe and I'd
be able to take it from there and technically we sign a ND, a
with our mufon positions. But It's funny because I
literally just said I want to remain on her bolts to them, but
I've never really stuck with the NTA at all, you know?
Obviously, if it's sensitive stuff, I like, I don't use
names, I'm I volunteered with mufon's.
It's called their Mars program, which was their redaction
program for a bit. So, I'd go through documents and
sense of them like, peoples names, addresses, Etc.
So I'd never share somebody's name or address.
So I do. You believe, I'm being honest
that way. But yeah, that's, that's been
with my experience with mufon, has a pastor and continuing to
be my experience. So, and now my director is as
Community, my community relations position.
I'm really there to bring move on into paranormal communities,
because, you know, paranormal communities.
Again, already a lot of them believe in UFOs or have
experienced some sort of UFO. Activity whether it was
Supernatural or like the physical craft and it's perfect
cause I'm already going into these communities to share about
midnight Mysteries or other topics so it just went
hand-in-hand. So there's a natural fit I knew
you were the right guy to have on the Shelf.
Yeah, my throat. Still hurts a little bit.
So like I'm like hitting mute on my mic and just I haven't
laughed in days so thank you just kind of, it's all
accordingly. It's a joy to know like, oh my
gosh, that generation is here. Men are rise up.
We're not going to be ashamed or afraid to talk about The reality
of what's going on here. Oh I salute Lee.
Oh yeah for it's funny because like there's a few times I was
sharing with with some of my pastors and mentors and just not
mentors but just I was completely dismissed by some
fellow pastors and it was frustrating because they're just
the trying to imagine anything. you know, Supernatural for them
was difficult and I just find it so ironic cuz You know, our
entire theological background and, and Doctrine in the Bible
is super centers around. Yeah, it centers around at
somebody that was killed and they came back to life.
And it's it's centered around a book that, you know, has men
turning into animals and donkeys, talking and angels and
different types of angels and beings with eyes all over them.
That also have like machine Parts and like, you can't just
can't ignore that stuff, right? Can't pick and choose what you
want. So I mean at the very least you
have to consider that you know this stuff does happen to some
extent even if we don't have the right definitions for the it
does happen. And I think that's one of the
things that has been in the Forefront of my mind.
Lately is on the show, I have covered a good amount of these
strange and Supernatural topics and People are asking me and
like my private life, I'm going church.
They won't touch it with a ten-foot pole.
I'm getting the personal responses and questions from
people and I have my own things that I'm like how do you explain
this and not growing up a Christian?
I mean Easter Christmas service, kind of Christian but when I
gave my life to the Lord and then read through and just had
this fresh perspective where I'm like wow so is that just did
somebody hit the switch while writing this book?
And now this is just fantasy land, okay?
Now back to law, you guys, and you have strong, I'm trying to
like explain to them if the church would deal with the
supernatural. If they would be dealing with
the body of Christ and the ailments that people suffer from
these attacks just like the Christ did.
It's just like the Christ did when he walked on this Earth and
he was casting out the legions when he came to the other side
of the lake just like when he would spit into the mud and
he'll someone's, I just like when he Make declaration either
with his mouth or in any which way the the Living God was was
making the supernatural World re adjust.
According to his word, his commandment.
He is the embodiment of the word.
And yep, I would go if the church would touch this stuff.
I don't need to designate like seventy percent of my time.
Trying to cover these topics. I have to be in like full speed
with these topics because nobody else will cover them.
Well, not nobody else but you know what I mean?
Like oh yeah. Yeah, all is why we got
involved. Like I said earlier, I love it
has, there's no one else doing it.
I love it but then there's this weighing part of me.
Where recently, I started like this micro series where I've
been doing some like 15 minute, 25 minute long episodes in
between these longer conversations that the audience
is used to over the last couple years and the idea there is God
was really putting it on my heart.
I've been saying for years, the gift of encouragement, we got to
stir up the gift of encouragement.
I just keep, I feel like it's so necessary.
Well it's beyond needed. Let's put it that way, from
everything. We've all of us around the world
have been through the last few years.
People need to just be organically locking arms with no
ulterior motive in mind but just encouraging.
So I've really been trying to stir up that gift in myself and
other people. Second Corinthians talks about
the different gifts that God gives, and it's just like, what
Christ says, the wind blows and we don't know where it's coming
from, but when it's on you, you know, it and I think that the
body of Christ needs, these kind of reminder, As I limp along
trying to cover and invite guests on to help us myself and
everyone else understand this Supernatural world is crisp and
clear and it is functioning and we can't be ignorant to it any
longer. So sorry.
So I don't go rant there. Well, you know, I completely out
of me just from hearing you and this conversation so far just
becomes alive in me. No, no, amen.
I completely agree with all of it, right?
We have the tendency to just be really dismissive of these
topics and or even just try and label everything as as demonic
to right with ya. I'm not sure it says black and
white is that I agree. My favorite ones and I think I
talked about this on fire theft too, but you know, growing up.
I heard that, you know, all ghosts are are demonic but as I
can as I'm going through. Scripture.
I'm like, okay, hold on. A reading through 1st Samuel 28,
and it talks about Saul going to the witch of Endor.
Yes, and she brings up the the spirit of Samuel.
And the Bible doesn't say, you know, it's a demon pertaining to
be the spirit of Samuel. It says Samuel shoots up and
says, why have you awakened me, right?
And so you really have to do some theological cartwheels to
dismiss some of these topics. Absolutely North them.
So yeah. The which of endures does she
screams out? If I remember correct.
So, you know, manik one in the picture here is terrified of
what's coming. Yeah, yeah.
And and Samuel talk. So even have in Matthew 17, when
Elijah and Moses appear on the mountain with Jesus, it's like,
they were people who died a long time before this moment.
And all of a sudden there on the mountain with Jesus, like
anybody passing In going home, that's Elijah and Moses like
that would be the definition of a ghost, somebody who's passed
and is now present in our reality, right?
Or even when Jesus is walking on water and the disciples are
like, it's a ghost, it could, you know, if if all ghosts were
demonic, it would have been a really great teaching moment for
Jesus to be like, no, actually all ghosts are demonic and in
job somewhere in the middle of the Night.
He I think it's job for. I should have my scripture in
front of me so I don't get this wrong but audience check me on
this. I believe it's job for maybe
job, six a spirit Glides past him in the middle of the night
and it says something paraphrasing.
Along the lines of can a mere man, be more righteous than as
makers on that doesn't sound demonic to me.
I mean, no, no, maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds like something was
kind of a comforting him in this suffering, like, dude, you're
not me. Righteous then God trust, like
you, like, you don't make Declaration of things you don't
know about. That's kind of job might take
from it, but, and in context, because I know a lot of times
people say, oh, you're jumping around and using scriptures here
and there, and it's like, I believe once I forgot who said
this, Nathan, but it was reminded to me more recent than
not, when aleko quotes this other person who says, if you're
claiming, you had a supernatural experience.
Then I would argue you either, like, made it up or and didn't
really have it or you just weren't paying attention.
If it doesn't change you like it's almost like you become
obsessed. Yeah.
I don't remember. I think it was one of the
exorcism movies and I'm not saying go and watch.
This is put, it was one of the exorcism we don't wear too.
Yeah, I know I remember reading about, I think it was based on a
true story where there was a agnostic priest, so he didn't
wasn't sure if he believed in. Not which is just bizarre and
its own ends up getting involved with some Deliverance stuff and
he gets confronted by possessed person and he has this instant
Revelation he's like hold on, if Satan is real that means god is
real to completely changes him. And that's yeah that's what a
supernatural encounter should do.
Should lead you digging and wanting more and studying and
researching. And I just remember that being
so profound. And like he changed his life.
I think everybody knows somebody with a strange Supernatural
encounter. I mean, really at the end of the
day, when people take all that like, false Persona of like, oh
well, this is me, I'm a businessman.
Or I'm the Sous that, like, I've noticed, like, over time as
people, like warmed up to me. And some people used to make fun
of me for this. Call me and text me, and be
like, yo, what do you think about this?
And I'm like, go read job. The word, man, I can't help you.
Yeah. Even if we have a glimpse, it's
enough in my opinion to keep it on the back burner.
Now I don't normally like, go down this route.
I've mentioned this on the show a couple times but I had gotten
jump when I was in my early early 20s 19, 20 years old and I
had a minor out-of-body experience.
Hmm, sounds like threatening hey, oh yeah, it was definitely
a near-death encounter. The reason I bring that up, is
everything changed for me. After that, I was watching my
friends frolicking through life, going to college some, go into
the military. Some of them, they're not here
anymore. Or because of, you know, drugs
and crazy stuff, car accidents, drinking and driving, but I
dealt with like PTSD for years. After that was so significant
and it wasn't until I could really understand that God can
use things that seem like they're so dark or so like, why
my life, right? When I'm getting ready to
Blossom and I should have like, you know, did this or did that?
Why was I dealing with stress and couldn't get out of my own
head? And why was I so obsessed with?
Well, what the heck? Heck is going to happen when I
really do die. And I remember being like kind
of upset because I'm like, I'm in my Prime.
I'm like 20 years old. Yeah, now in my mid-30s I'm
going God, I'm sorry like you humbled me.
God can use these rough situations or these testing
time. Even if you're not calling on
his name, he still knows you. He still sees you and I hope
that that's encouragement that God is on the throne.
The resurrection is real. All of these dark entities.
They bowed down at the name of Christ and he loves each one of
us. I mean, that's how we fell in
love with, with delivering stuff, right?
Because there's There's people that are looking for help, they
there's a need that needs to be filled and it's just clear that
the church isn't currently stepping up to the plate to
fulfill that need. And we are seeing people.
And that's not to say everyone is called to do the types of
things. You and I are talking about, I
don't believe that at all but at the same time they're there
isn't enough, right? And we have been training a few
more people, but I only believe that it's going to get Not to
not to give the enemy credit, but I do believe, it is going to
get darker and darker until you know, Christ returns to some
extent. I do believe that the light is
going to be moving. Just as powerfully that there
will be many more saved and healed and delivered, but there
are dark days ahead as the enemies moving behind the scenes
and throughout the land. And I think now more than ever
Christians, need to be talking about these things, warning
people, and that doesn't mean No standing on a soapbox on the
corner with a megaphone shouting at people as they walk by, but
just through everyday conversations with our neighbors
and with people to grocery store and gas stations.
And, you know, one of our commissions from from Bible
schools was like, don't go home and try and impress people with
all this knowledge and and theology, is it go home?
And I mean, we're all students still, it's go home and take out
the trash. When you have them in a store,
mow the lawn or help carry your neighbors groceries in or pay
for something ahead of you with a little note, saying I'm
praying for you or God cares about where you're at and and
those are the types of things that that plant seeds and those
are the type of things that change people.
So very well said. And my wife is going to be
looking at me when she listens to this part of the episode
going to take the trash out more.
What are you doing, man? Yeah.
It's so true man. It's so true.
Christ says, you shall know my disciples by the love.
They have for one another. So Nathan.
What is the plan moving forward? With the podcast?
You guys are a newer show. Do you plan on doing like
interview dealing with stories? You have like listeners sending
in stores. You plan on interviewing people.
Like what? Just, just to give my listeners
and idea as they look for you here down the road, like what
are you guys gonna do? Absolutely.
So, We started off just being like Hey we're going to just
kind of talk about these topics and our first three or four
episodes were on topics. We've done time and time again
and it's probably another few episodes we could do on stuff.
We're really familiar with, at some point, we want to do
another one on Ley lines, but we realized very quickly that we're
not experts on everything and we knew that going into it but
we're like wow we're going to we're going to run out of
content really? If we don't start having other
people on, or if we don't turn it into more of a conversational
podcast, more radio radio style podcast because we were doing
all scripted prior to. So we tried a couple of just
back and forth, where we talked about some different topics.
We did one on Cults and secret societies that way, and then
we're switching to. Okay, we need to start bringing
in guests for for each episode on different topics and we're
kind of a hybrid. David podcast in terms of, you
know, where we're Christian hosts but it's not overtly
Christian. I mean, there's I mean we just
interviewed judge Burton, right? So like there's there's topics
that are very clearly Christian and from a Biblical Christian
Perspective but it's not a Christian podcast per se.
Does that does that make sense? Lutely.
Absolutely. It's very similar to where we
were going into these groups before and talk about these
topics, but it wasn't necessarily us.
I was preaching or conversing with other Christians so we're
still trying to figure that out. We're still new and and learning
and growing. But that's the that's the
general direction. Going forward is having guests
on to share about different topics and it's going back and
forth with them before I ask my next question.
I wanted to bring up that I think is super significant is
the body of Christ, being in agreement.
And a lot of the times, people think.
Oh, you gotta close this church and that church.
And we have to be Like whatever. Like know the idea is the Bible
says, one Spirit one mind and one baptism right in Christ.
And in the power of who he is, and I just want to say that from
my listeners, especially here in Southeastern Pennsylvania.
You guys know when the show we've been calling to the body
of Christ. Pray for each other encourage
each other and let's lock arms for the days moving forward.
But just to make the clarification, it's not about
closing down a denomination. I think.
I've been trying to show you guys.
You're on this podcast that. Let's highlight what people have
right? Instead of trying to write a
book about what's wrong with this or do you spend too much
time? Let's try to highlight what we
have right and continue to agree on the power of Christ.
Now, Nathan, you're in the Canadian wilderness.
What does that even mean? Like, are you 30 miles of the
next leg Town? Yeah.
So we can I comment on your last point.
They're just really quick solution and then I'll drop it.
Yeah. So I like we're the the church
on part of we're midsize church and we're a non-denominational
church, which means that were a multi-denominational church.
Like we have all sorts of different denominations and
backgrounds and I think it's Sookie.
What? Said that unless unless it's a
Salvation issue, there's going to be different interpretations.
That's right. And and it's we have to
understand that we're one body many parts that were all card
called to different parts of our society and culture and that may
look different for for one person than it does the other.
But I think of when Paul talks about the the meat before the
idols and he says, you know, if you feel conviction not to eat
the meat because it's been offered to idols, Owls then
don't eat the meat but if you don't feel conviction to not eat
the meat and go ahead and eat the meat and I think whenever we
talk to other Christian speakers or listen, we need to take the
meat and throw the bones. Yes, that's the way we're going
to be able to go together because we'll never agree on on
absolutely everything. And again unless it's core
salvation issue, we need to be prepared to set aside our
differences and Minister together.
So amen. What was your Is your question?
Oh yes, I remember Canada's. So the states has about 10 times
the population as Canada. We're really kind of spread out
until you hit about central Canada and then it's like
Wilderness up North with very few people.
Yeah. So Edmonton is Alberta's capital
city and Edmonton's called the gateway to the north because
it's Canada's largest. Northernmost City.
And it's funny cuz we're still about central Canada, but we're
the largest city northward and we used to be the last stop for
supplies, for the gold miners and coal miners, and all sorts
of other occupations as they went North and railroad workers.
So, that's where we're broadcasting from.
Lots of wilderness around here, lots of mountains, lots of
Sasquatch and For activity. We have a little area set up
where I work and that's where we broadcast from.
And we do play on the whole Cabin in the Woods thing.
We love you know it but it is a bit of an exaggeration to.
So all right I got a comment on that.
Sure, the last stop to the north right and he's like, you know,
nugget men are coming in with like leather and guns and
they're like, we're going for gold.
Do they ever come back pretty much everyone northward is
either like An old generational minor like from a hundred years
ago or like homeless hippies. Like those are the two types of
people you find find North a lot of First Nations groups to, but
again just very spread out. So I have had dreams of hitting
the Canadian wilderness but I don't think I'm built for that
would definitely need a jacket. Do they have a Chick-fil-A up?
No, do Chick-fil-A's. We do have Popeyes now though.
And like, Popeyes are shooting up across the city.
Oh well I'm very popular. Yeah, it's very cool man.
Yeah, it's been a pleasure to talk with you.
I loved everything that you were saying here tonight and I feel
like you guys are going to do exactly what you're setting out
to accomplish just thankful that I got to interview you and talk
with you. And yeah, it's been a huge
pleasure, I love doing episodes like this.
So yeah, any time in the future that you want, To talk or chat.
I'm I'm happy to do so. Well, tell the listeners where
they can find you Nathan where they can find your show and
anything else that you want them to know about.
Sure. So our investigation companies
called a period or research and investigations Imperial is Latin
for exposing light. Then midnight Mysteries is on
Instagram as midnight Mysteries radio and that's all of our
links are. There we do a bunch of posts
around different topics and then I've started up a different one
when I say start it up, I mean, I created the logo and that's as
far as I've gotten. Our podcast called paranormal
pastor and it's more of these topics, but from Strictly a
Christian perspective to Christians.
Whereas again, like I said, earlier midnight Mysteries is
more of a bridge podcast for it's not overtly as Christians.
So those are my, my handles I guess that is it that's the
show. If you guys found this episode
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Goodbye.