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Hello folks, this is Princess. 
You are listening to the 

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Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
Thanks for listening. 

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Don't forget to share with your 
friends. 

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That's tough. 
We're in a very tough spot. 

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I think that what we're doing 
right now is a great benefit and

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virtue because it's an end 
around between this whole 

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corrupt informational system, 
media system. 

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We claim to believe in a God who
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existence and literally raised 
himself from the dead, and yet 

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we're not going to believe that 
anything else exists in the 

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spirit realm, even though His 
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Their bodies weren't permitted 
to go to sleep like humans do, 

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and they weren't permitted to go
to heaven, so they wander the 

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earth. 
You know, I've seen the eyes 

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turn black to unknown tongues 
being spoken. 

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These giants would love way up 
in the island, the young Braves.

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The young men would hide up in 
the trees and wait for one of 

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these 12 footers to come walking
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jump on them and kill them, drag
them back to the village and the

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village would feast on the body 
freedom. 

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Then people start to get 
weapons, they start to get 

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armor, they start to build 
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their cities. 
Now God looks down and there's 

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violence everywhere. 
The battle, this war that we are

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at, is not against each other. 
It's against these 

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principalities and these rulers 
and these archons in the high 

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places. 
It's really worthwhile to read 

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the Bible yourself. 
Fear is one of the primary 

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drivers of mind control because 
we have to take every thought 

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captive and resist fear. 
You're going to have a testimony

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that is a justice case against 
the Kingdom of darkness. 

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Welcome back to the millennial 
Mustard Seed. 

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I'm your host, Rod. 
Thanks for being here. 

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For another cool episode, I'm 
joined by Marie Becher. 

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She is the host of two podcasts,
Hospice Explained and Hospice 

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Encounters Piercing the Veil, 
both really cool podcasts. 

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Marie has been working in 
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specifically with Hospice 
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She jumps into some personal and
fascinating stories that she has

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experienced over her time. 
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supernatural things happened in 
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This is really a cool episode. 
I'm a big fan of what she does 

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on both of her podcasts, 
bringing recognition to Hospice 

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end of life process. 
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for people that work in the 
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environment. 
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don't know anything about 
Hospice and then find themselves

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at the end of life going, hey, 
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expect? 
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share experiences and also 
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We get into so much more than 
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On this episode, which I loved 
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shares a few gems throughout the
course of her life of wild stuff

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that happened to her one story 
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teenager. 
I'm not going to get into the 

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details. 
You got to stick around for the 

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rest of the episode to hear 
that, and it's definitely going 

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to be worth your while. 
So let me do some maintenance 

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here real quick. 
I need you guys to like, share, 

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and subscribe. 
That's how you help the 

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algorithms and you help me find 
another person just like me and 

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you by sharing these episodes. 
That is important. 

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You can find details in the show
notes to find a copy of my 

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newest book. 
The words are salt hardcover 

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paperback available on Amazon. 
Please consider donating 

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planting a seed. 
You can find a link of how to 

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You can give a monthly donation 
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June 27th through the 29th at 
6:00 PM until whenever we will 

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be in Lebanon, PA for all things
new hosted by Love in the 

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Streets Litz. 
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PM, that'll be a Sunday, will 
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The address is 801 N 6th St. 
Lebanon, PA. 

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There's going to be free grocery
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Saturday 6/29. 
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We're going to be joined by 
Klaus Chavis, a good brother of 

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mine whom I minister with on the
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Marcus Rodgers from Firehouse in
Chicago will be coming through 

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and then live SP from Baltimore 
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So this is a place where we're 
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It's a great event. 
I'll be there for a couple of 

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these nights. 
If you guys want to meet me, 

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come out, kick it with us. 
There's going to be music. 

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It's going to be love in the 
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party. 
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the information I'm going to 
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our season to grow. 
Literally, God is doing 

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something unique in the day and 
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We've seen tons of people get 
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haven't even seen it, the 
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but people are getting baptized 
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in southeastern Pennsylvania. 
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We're starting to see the clear 
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in this day and age that we live
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I believe in the Kingdom Land 
Project, I believe and having 

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church differently. 
I believe in love in the 

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streets. 
I believe in Kingdom land. 

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I believe in walking it out, 
coming together with a likeness 

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of mind and meeting each other's
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If you feel led to so into this 
ministry to partner with us, to 

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literally be a frontline person 
who's who's willing to say, you 

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know what, I'm going to 
intercede. 

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I'm going to, I have this to 
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I would like to come and be a 
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guys are doing. 
Just reach out to me, all hands 

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on deck. 
I think it's about time to jump 

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into this episode. 
I'm ready. 

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Are you guys ready? 
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Go, let's go. 
Hello, my name is Marie Becher. 

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I am host of Hospice Explain 
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podcast. 
Welcome to the millennial 

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Mustard. 
Seed Podcast Marie, it is an 

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honor to have you here with me. 
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Thank you. 
I'm I'm excited. 

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You're a registered nurse and 
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host of Hospice Explained and 
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the veil. 
You interviewed me, I want to 

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say a few months back, right? 
Was it like the end of last 

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year? 
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wrote it down one SEC here. 
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Now my chicken scratched it. 
Hang on a second, I want number.

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I'm pretty sure you're #20 let 
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my. 
Mail. 

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Yeah, it was it was October 29th
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you. 
We had a great conversation. 

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You know, it felt good to get 
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I know I've talked about my near
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It's not fancy Wu and wah, you 
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have this place where you were 
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You cared about what I was 
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You gave me a space to share 
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years really wrestled with what 
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with, you know, all the things 
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experience. 
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for what you're doing on both of
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space where there's no 
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It's just people can come and 
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what they're going through. 
So why don't you tell us, Just 

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start off real quick. 
Tell us a little bit about you 

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have two different podcasts. 
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what happens on each one 'cause 
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favor one of your podcasts more 
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speaking. 
No, absolutely. 

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And I think that's realistic. 
So I'm a registered nurse and 

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I've been a nurse for so I've 
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And I ended up finding myself in
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loved it. 
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education. 
The a lot of people don't end up

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choosing Hospice until it's 
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they need a lot of education 
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And I ended up going part time 
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I'm still a registered nurse. 
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Hospice because I found that I 
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invested and I felt like it's, 
it's just was a better place for

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me to be a podcaster for it. 
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educating people on Hospice. 
It's literally called Hospice 

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explained. 
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place for spiritually because 
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My heart is to bring the 
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I, I literally call it that safe
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and not feel like I'm going to 
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or, or, you know, any religious 
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And just so people, your 
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have to be a believer in Jesus 
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Hospice service. 
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You've paid into this system. 
You deserve to get something out

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you get a social worker, you get
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And so I've just taken it on to 
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And I was a podcasting for about
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and I got to I've got to read 
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So I read this book called 
Imagine heaven, near death 

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Experiences God's Promise and 
and the Exhilarating future that

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awaits you by John Burke and 
jury. 

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I hadn't even read the whole 
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I had read the first half of the
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tell your story. 
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Oh, I have a lot of stories and 
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you have to tell your story. 
You have to tell your story. 

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And I'm like, I'm already a 
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etcetera and podcaster. 
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and we added Piercing the Veil 
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listen to it. 
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think of it as because I'm a 
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I don't go there on Hospice, 
explain, but I go there on 

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Hospice Encounters. 
I haven't done a lot of episodes

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and I don't do them, you know, I
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but it's it's hard with with 
Hospice explained where I trying

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to reach that weekly level. 
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And I'm just going to be honest,
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Hospice encounters in like the 
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the story. 
And if you'd like me, Rod, I can

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pause. 
Because I just. 

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Don't want to ramble on without 
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I got to hear at least one or 
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That's easy. 
You got a diversity of 

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different, you know, people 
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people in the medical field, 
other podcasters. 

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But I want you to tell me what 
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things that does not have to be 
an interview you've done, but 

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just throughout your time in 
Hospice over all these years. 

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Give us like a gem story. 
All right, that's an easy one. 

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Well, my first one, I'll 
actually, I got multiple, but 

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I'll give you my first one. 
This is the easiest. 

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My mom and my dad taught me who 
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system and they did a great job.
I said yes to Jesus in Sunday 

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school before I turned 3. 
I'll never forget my mom goes. 

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Do you want to go to Sunday? 
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obviously you have to be not 
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have to be potty trained, you 
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she's like, do you want to go to
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And I'm like, I knew the rules. 
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But, you know, of course, it's a
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Sunday. 
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one of them still alive, 
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They said, OK, we're going to 
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And I, you know, close your eyes
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And do you want Jesus in your 
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I remember looking around. 
I was thinking about this today.

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I thought he's going to ask me 
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And I poked my, you know, looked
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I raised my hand. 
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did, but I even I remember 
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said she was like pointing at me
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teachers like I think they wrote
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You know who said yes because of
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So this is who I am and how I 
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I was raised from an early time 
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And so my mom is AI don't want 
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St. because she's she's passed 
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I thought there was going to be 
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died. 
I was wrong. 

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The only thing I can tell you 
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mom died, I was a young, young 
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My sisters are nurses and my 
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problems and we weren't sure 
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slow rumble. 
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the night before she died and 
she said, you know what tomorrow

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is? 
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tomorrow is 40 years to the day 
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mom's grandma or excuse me, my 
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And I was there and I was like, 
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were going to come pick her up 
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I'd been with patients dying, 
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special was going to happen. 
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that I have to look back on was 
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been worrying when she would 
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And I found out the day before, 
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You know, she doesn't have much 
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My dad died 10 years later, and 

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he died at my home. 
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like, you know, an extra bedroom
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And to the night we gathered, 
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I had been a much more 
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OK, we're get, we're getting 
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Dad, just laying there looking 
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There's ten of us minimum in the
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visiting 'cause we knew this was
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He goes, wow. 
I said, what, what do you, what,

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what do you, what's up, dad? 
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I see the sky, and I see the 
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beautiful. 
I still get choked up. 

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I said to my son, turn off the 
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don't want anybody to go. 
Oh, he sees lights on the 

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ceiling and he goes, oh, I see 
the great beyond. 

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And he just kept saying it with 
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It's beautiful. 
And he went to sleep that night 

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and died about 30-6 hours later.
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a semi comatose state, really 
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And he passed peacefully. 
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know, you know, the maker of the
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his universe with our family. 
I'm gonna pause. 

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Wow. 
The verse that was coming softly

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into my remembrance as I'm 
listening is God will give you 

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an expected end. 
We all have to face death at 

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some point and when it's someone
that we love and we are a 

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witness to the this end chapter 
and and the gem that gets 

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dropped, you know, your dad is 
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the great and beautiful beyond. 
I think that that's comforting 

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for a lot of people that may be 
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really thought about it. 
Or maybe, well, I know there's 

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other people out there like me 
who kind of had some weird wake 

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up calls and then they're 
wrestling what's really going to

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happen when I die. 
So that brings comfort. 

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That's a part of the testimony 
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And I just want to I honor you 
and just applaud you for sharing

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that. 
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It was, it was wonderful. 
And it was I just, you know, 

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it's really interesting. 
And I feel like I got through my

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dad's death so much differently 
than my mom's. 

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And some of that's maturity, 
some of that's experience, but. 

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It I just brought me so much 
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how I look at death and life And
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why I've shared on Hospice 
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few of the near death 
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I just I just want to encourage 
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there that this is not a finite,
this is not it. 

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This is not all there is. 
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I do have. 
My story of you've probably 

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heard it, but the the one where 
I had the Hospice patients. 

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So if you want me to tell that 
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Can Oh no, I do yeah, as many as
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And then if you want to tell us 
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I'll drop a couple more 
questions. 

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I'm actually excited to hear 
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briefly what it. 
Is so I'm going to tell a few 

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I'll tell you a few more stories
I I'm not going to deny that you

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may be disappointed if you 
listen to all my podcasts 

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because. 
I have most of those. 

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Stories are in the beginning few
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the simple one. 
My son's dog Ranger, he was 10 

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and he had a really aggressive 
cancer and my son decided to 

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come to my house and he hired 
somebody There's, there's folks 

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that will go to your house to, 
you know, help you when your dog

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needs to go for the end of life.
So they had it in two, two 

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sections. 
My son, my husband left the 

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house and took. 
Two of our dogs out of the house

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just so they weren't there. 
So my son was sitting on one 

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couch and I was sitting on 
another. 

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My my youngest daughter was 
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So she was sitting on the couch 
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the other couch. 
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Ranger was actually standing 
behind at this moment. 

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So Ranger had had his first 
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And I think there was two 
injections. 

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She gave him one to relax him 
and was just letting that kick 

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in. 
So he's relaxed and he, he just 

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kind of, I remember watching 
this dog and he just, you know, 

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he's a big lab. 
He's a £85 lab. 

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He wasn't a small dog. 
So you can see his eyes and I'm 

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just watching because that's 
what, you know, I'm assessing, 

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watching, thinking what's 
happening. 

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And that dog, you could just see
he kind of lifted his head off 

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my son's lap and shook his head 
a little bit. 

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And he looked across the room 
and he looked towards the 

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towards the left and you can see
his eyes. 

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He changed focus, looked in the 
middle. 

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He changed focus, looked again. 
So he literally had looked at 

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what I consider maybe three 
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Then he looked at me. 
Then he looked at one more 

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person on the couch. 
And I don't remember if there 

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was one more beyond that. 
I remember trying to think about

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that. 
So he may have looked at 5:00, 

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but it was kind of like, I'm 
pretty sure one of those was 

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there for him. 
I'm sorry, that one's really 

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bothers me too. 
I really think the animals go 

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somewhere, Rod, I really do. 
Oh my gosh, I just got 

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triggered. 
Had no idea this would happen. 

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But the child, you know, not 
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dog that I had, Mackenzie, she 
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She was at my mom's house. 
She passed when she was 15. 

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And this is a few years back. 
So this dog came into my life 

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when I was about 15 years old, 
right? 

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And same thing happened. 
She couldn't go up and down the 

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steps anymore. 
Like we knew it was coming. 

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So I went over, you know, my mom
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who come to assist to take your 
dog into the afterlife, right? 

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And I'll never forget when these
people came, she looked at them,

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at me, back at them and growled 
at them and just laid her head 

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down and looked at me with the 
most patient and loving look and

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let the rest of the process go. 
And that kind of, you know, I 

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haven't really went there in a 
while. 

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So, so weird when you were 
telling that story, I was so 

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triggered. 
I like, I literally frog in the 

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throat. 
I'm like, Oh my gosh, I just 

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went back because I put that on 
the back burner. 

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But I felt some type of way 
about that when that happened, 

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when Mackenzie said, I'm sorry, 
it you triggered me. 

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I had to, I had to get that off 
my chest. 

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So I didn't go to sleep on what 
being like, man, I should have 

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just got that one out into the 
ether. 

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But there's something going on 
there. 

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I don't know. 
I mean, you know, Pet Sematary 

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is a movie from when I was 
growing up and super creepy and 

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there was these seated ideas in 
the millennial generation's mind

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about the creepy end of it. 
But I don't think that's the 

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truth. 
I, I think that God is way more 

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complicated and beautiful then 
any of us could really wrestle 

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with the reality of that. 
And I don't think that there's a

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bond that we take place with an 
animal that's just like, like 

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God is up there going, Oh, I've 
made a billion dogs. 

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That one doesn't matter. 
I don't believe the God that I 

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worship and serve of all 
creation thinks like that. 

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I think everything has a purpose
and a value and, and everything 

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is a test. 
And when we do it right, there's

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rewards. 
We have friends waiting for us 

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on the other side. 
Furry friends, if I could say it

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that way. 
I my, my daughter actually on 

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Hospice encounters in I can't 
remember what episode and 

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probably episode 3. 
No, maybe not that early, but 

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anyway, she, she witnessed it. 
She witnessed she was sitting 

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next to my son and she gets on 
the episode and says I saw it 

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'cause I remember going, am I 
just me? 

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I don't know that my son saw it.
He was just focused on the dog, 

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but Haley watched, she said, Oh 
yeah, there's an absolute. 

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He was looking at something and 
it wasn't us in the room. 

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So I could I'll just keep going 
with my Angel stories here for 

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here's a simple one. 
Here's here's just a this flat 

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out fact that I worked night 
shift. 

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I'm a registered nurse and I 
work night shift and I do 12 

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hour nights and they're hard 
sometimes to come home and go to

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sleep, you know, So, so I'd come
home and take a bath, you know, 

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and I have this kind of a 
triangle shaped it's, I don't 

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want to call it a triangle, but 
it's a, it's an odd, it's an odd

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shaped tub that fits into the 
bathroom. 

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And nobody was home. 
Everybody went to school and 

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work. 
So I'm home alone and I was just

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sitting in the tub and it's a 
bigger oversized tub and the 

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water's filling, you know, and 
my mind is just, you know, 

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starting to let go of all the 
nights busyness. 

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And I started falling forward. 
Now I know it, I wouldn't have 

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probably fell over in the tub, 
but I might have because it was 

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such an odd shape. 
I think I was going to hit my 

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head on the, you know, the 
spout, if I can remember right. 

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And a hand stopped me. 
So my eyes were shut as I was 

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falling forward. 
But I know you know what a hand 

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feels like. 
You know what something feels 

446
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,800
like when it stops you. 
And it wasn't the tub. 

447
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,920
And I opened her eyes because I 
woke right up. 

448
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,480
You know how you just 
immediately wake up and you're 

449
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,040
like, yeah, nobody's here? 
Yeah. 

450
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,920
OK, Thank you, God. 
Thank you, Angel. 

451
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,120
You know, I appreciate the help.
Obviously, I needed it that day.

452
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,800
I know I have a guardian Angel 
and I will go ahead and I'll 

453
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:22,120
tell you how I know it. 
So I told you my literal come to

454
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,640
Jesus, you know, I so I don't 
want to say it like that. 

455
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,120
I told you in the beginning that
I said yes to Jesus. 

456
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:34,240
So I am a Christian and I did my
best, you know, I always prayed,

457
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,880
I always, you know what I mean? 
But you know there's always 

458
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,800
teenager moments, right? 
We teenagers can be make silly 

459
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,480
choices fast some of us we all 
have these moments, right? 

460
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,640
So I was leaving a friend's 
house and I'm. 

461
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,720
Thinking it had to be close to 
midnight, I used to be have to 

462
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,720
be home by midnight. 
So I know it was close to 

463
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,360
midnight. 
I they were they were only like 

464
00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:01,800
15 minutes away. 
I lived at the time near Seattle

465
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,080
Tacoma International Airport. 
So I was driving from from South

466
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,280
of the airport to just north of 
the airport where I lived. 

467
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,720
And somebody, you know how you 
just, it's, it's late. 

468
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,320
There's nobody on the road. 
I mean, we're talking 45 years 

469
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,280
ago, whatever it was 40 years 
ago. 

470
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,240
There's nobody on the road 
because it's just, it was a not 

471
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,440
rural, but it just wasn't as 
populated, right. 

472
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,960
So somebody's tailgating me so 
tight. 

473
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,800
They're just inches from my, my 
bumper and you, they were so 

474
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,720
close. 
I almost didn't see them because

475
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,840
they were literally so close. 
You know how you look backwards 

476
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,320
and you see lights? 
Well, there were no lights 

477
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,360
because they were hidden behind 
the car. 

478
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:53,160
So I'm in my mom's little Ford 
Fairmont, and this person passes

479
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,120
me on the corner. 
So a corner of going around the 

480
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,520
on the freeway. 
And I pointed them to heaven 

481
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,480
with my middle finger. 
Yeah, I'm going to own that. 

482
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,960
I I it's not something I 
normally did either. 

483
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,880
So it was kind of like, you 
know, you know, just not not it 

484
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,800
was not nice. 
And I regretted it because it 

485
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,800
enraged them, but I regretted it
anyway because it wasn't the 

486
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,960
nice thing to do. 
And this person started like 

487
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,400
harassing me on the freeway, you
know, and I didn't even, you 

488
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,000
know, road rage wasn't even a 
thing. 

489
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,200
So I'm I'm probably 17 or 18. 
I don't remember being 18, but I

490
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:38,400
might have been already 18. 
And so I like thinking I'm going

491
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,880
to pull off to the side of the 
freeway, you know, take an exit 

492
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,240
when they're in the fast lane 
and they're going to go past. 

493
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,800
And no, they just drove up the 
hill in the gravel and chased me

494
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,040
down. 
And then and of course, there's 

495
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,600
a light at the top and it was 
like stop or go, you know, And 

496
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,880
it was kind of like, so I 
stopped at the light a lot. 

497
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,200
My doors were locked. 
And I'm like, Lord, forgive me. 

498
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,600
I know. 
I prayed that with 100%. 

499
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,040
I said, you know, Lord forgive 
me. 

500
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,200
I, you know, literally do not 
know what I do. 

501
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,480
Just please protect me. 
I don't know, you know, you 

502
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,440
know, people are. 
Like, oh, I, I would have drove.

503
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,960
Around I had a six cylinder Ford
Fairmont. 

504
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,960
I knew the power of this vehicle
was not, you know, I wasn't 

505
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,720
going to be a match for a man 
that had a you know, could 

506
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,160
probably take his car like a 
race car, you know, and it 

507
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,320
wasn't a race car. 
I don't mean that it was, but 

508
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,600
you know what I mean. 
This is an adult man that could 

509
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,680
probably dry out drive me no 
matter what. 

510
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,760
So he came, he parked behind me 
and he came up to my car and he 

511
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,600
just started losing it on me. 
Of course, he tried to get in 

512
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,640
the car and he couldn't. 
I think he was gonna. 

513
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,240
I don't. 
I don't doubt that he would have

514
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,280
done something very not good to 
me. 

515
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,520
But he stopped just mid 
screaming stopped. 

516
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,960
And his eyes glazed over and 
he's looking at my passenger 

517
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,640
seat Rod. 
There's nobody in the passenger 

518
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,080
seat. 
This is an empty car. 

519
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,720
I am alone and he is staring at 
it. 

520
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,800
And this is enough so that I 
have looked back and forth 10 

521
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,240
times. 
I'm like, OK, well, you know, my

522
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,360
mom always talked about angels. 
So I'm like, maybe, maybe 

523
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,480
there's an Angel here. 
You know, there's no indent in 

524
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,080
the seat. 
There's. 

525
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,680
Nothing, you know. 
There's nothing to see. 

526
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,760
I had nothing to literal see. 
And this this man just all of a 

527
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,800
sudden straightened up, stood 
up, backed away from the car and

528
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,160
he yelled at me. 
And he says, don't flip people 

529
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,800
off and starts marching back to 
his car. 

530
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,160
And I found, you know, there's 
sometimes obviously you still 

531
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,840
say things that you don't need 
to, but I felt this power to 

532
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,760
say, well, then don't tailgate 
people, you know? 

533
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,280
And he came back to start 
screaming at me again. 

534
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,480
And he looked at my passenger 
and just turned around and 

535
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,320
walked and walked and drove 
away. 

536
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,520
I know, I know that's a that's a
story. 

537
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,600
I just have to pause because I 
could just keep talking and 

538
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,520
talking. 
When his eyes glazed over, was 

539
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,040
it like in shock or did he 
literally have like something 

540
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,360
physical that was happening to 
him? 

541
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,160
That's a good question. 
It's crazy. 

542
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,560
I thought about that today. 
So it's not like the movies 

543
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,600
where you, you know, they go 
white or they go black or, you 

544
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,440
know, anything crazy. 
You could just tell what you. 

545
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,520
So if you were to look at 
somebody, just like I could see 

546
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,720
the dog's focus, you can see 
when somebody's focused on 

547
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,440
something besides you if you're 
in a conversation with them. 

548
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,320
And he's, you know, inches from 
my face. 

549
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,640
The only thing separating this 
was the car door and the window.

550
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,720
And so I could see his face, 
'cause he's leaned over. 

551
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,160
He wasn't a tall guy. 
I could see his face, very. 

552
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Clearly. 
And I could see 'cause his jaw 

553
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,760
relaxed, his mouth opened. 
Like, you know how you just kind

554
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,160
of when you're really listening 
intently, you might talk your 

555
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,520
head to the side. 
And so all these little cues and

556
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,560
you're like in back of your 
head, you're like, he is 

557
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,640
definitely talking to somebody. 
Somebody's giving him a talking 

558
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,760
to. 
And so as part of it as like I 

559
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,520
just shut up, but I'm like, I'll
let let them give him a talking 

560
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,040
to. 
Who's? 

561
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,640
Them you know who's. 
Fascinating. 

562
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,920
The Angel, you know, you just 
know that he's getting, you just

563
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,800
know it. 
So, so I have more to say about 

564
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:24,160
him. 
He I, this is really hard to say

565
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,360
and this is something I've had 
to struggle and wrap my head 

566
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,280
around. 
This happened in the years that 

567
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,800
Gary Ridgway, who was a serial 
killer, was in my area. 

568
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,200
I know people that worked with 
him. 

569
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,240
He lived in my area and he was 
killing people in the Seattle 

570
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,280
Tacoma. 
He was killing prostitutes. 

571
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,040
So he he had blood lust in his 
eyes when I mean this person was

572
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,880
going to hurt me. 
But but I don't know what you 

573
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,720
want to add to this or take away
Rod. 

574
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,120
I don't know how you want to. 
I'm not going to say it was him.

575
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,560
I'm not saying that because I 
can't. 

576
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,360
I can't say that for sure. 
I just have a I've had a gut 

577
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,440
feeling for a long time that 
that's who it was. 

578
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,840
You know, I talk about this kind
of stuff and I can't prove it, 

579
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:18,040
but I believe that there are 
foul spirits that are of common 

580
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,040
bond, right? 
So the same spirit that can be 

581
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,160
on somebody like a spirit of 
murder or lust. 

582
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,000
It's I believe those spirits are
in cahoots together. 

583
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,160
It doesn't mean it's like that 
spirit left somebody else to 

584
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,080
come into that person because 
these both of these people share

585
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,120
lust. 
I don't, I don't think it's like

586
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,920
that in the spirit world. 
I just think that they have 

587
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,120
their own interface system where
just like we're able to birds of

588
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,200
a feather flock together, right?
You hang out with good people. 

589
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,760
The Bible says hang with the 
wise, become wiser, right? 

590
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,920
It says hang with fools and it 
it can crumble your moral 

591
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,960
compass. 
So I think in the spirit world 

592
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,640
it parallels that. 
So when you say you seen, you 

593
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,800
know that something about this 
guy. 

594
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280
There was kind of like an 
essence there if your gut was 

595
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:09,400
registering, like, yo, that is a
common threatening spirit that 

596
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,320
has been identified. 
I think that's a fascinating 

597
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,840
point to bring up, Marie. 
And and I think it's important 

598
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,080
enough to just even spend that 
little extra time like we did on

599
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,760
it because other people out 
there are going to be like, 

600
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,000
yeah, you know what? 
You ever just meet somebody and 

601
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,920
you get a feeling that resonates
with other people that were off 

602
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,000
that you met throughout your 
life, you get the same kind of 

603
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,080
weird, something's off. 
I think it's spirits that are 

604
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,560
foul rolled together. 
They. 

605
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,480
Do they do? 
I mean, I just know no matter 

606
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,840
what this person, they just 
don't. 

607
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,840
You just don't go charging up to
a young teenager without I'll 

608
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,760
intent that we know, 
irregardless of whether it 

609
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,199
really was or really wasn't. 
He had I'll intent no matter who

610
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,120
he was. 
And he got a good talking to. 

611
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,080
I always laugh. 
I'm saying that I don't know if 

612
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,560
he got a good talking to. 
I I mean, who knows what was 

613
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,360
going on spiritually? 
Who knows what was happening? 

614
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,840
Well, it's clear his reaction, 
there was some type of 

615
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,040
engagement happening, and the 
imagination can only run wild to

616
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,120
try to understand. 
So that that's a very, really 

617
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,360
powerful story when it comes to 
working in the building, the 

618
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,480
years you spent doing Hospice. 
I'm not asking for a creepy 

619
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,640
story, OK, Because I don't like 
to focus on the the depth of the

620
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,240
darkness. 
I just want to hear two 

621
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,320
different stories side by side. 
Like this was kind of creepy and

622
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,400
dark and this one was beautiful.
Do you? 

623
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,040
Can you do that for us here? 
Well, I could start with the 

624
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,280
let's see here. 
So for me, for Hospice, what I 

625
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,640
have to clarify is that I was an
admission nurse. 

626
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,920
I did not tend to see them die 
as much. 

627
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,520
I, I got, I was really good 
because I worked so many years 

628
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,120
in the hospital and in that 
emergent fashion where, you 

629
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,160
know, I go in and figure out 
what's wrong and, you know, fix 

630
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,480
things. 
I found that it was, it wasn't 

631
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,680
like Hospice emergency room, 
'cause they're not emergent 

632
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,320
services, they are definitely 
not. 

633
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,240
But I would go in and try and 
fix those things that were 

634
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,120
broken, fix them so they could 
get peaceful and die. 

635
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,360
So I didn't spend as many times 
with dying patients. 

636
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,320
But I can tell you, I can tell 
you a few stories, not about 

637
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,480
that, but I will be straight up 
that in the old buildings at 

638
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,040
some of the, some one of the 
facilities I worked at that the 

639
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,800
elevators in the middle of the 
night would open and close and 

640
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,440
do some funny things. 
The monitors will go off and on 

641
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,280
when they're not supposed to. 
There are lots of things 

642
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,720
happening in there, bumps in the
night and then you're just not 

643
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:49,000
very comfortable with. 
So for Hospice, I have my, my 

644
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,440
big story. 
So this was an actual Hospice 

645
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,480
visit. 
I was going to do an admission 

646
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,160
and they said, hey, Marie, can 
you go see this patient in the 

647
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,440
hospital? 
So if we were seeing a patient 

648
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,440
in the hospital instead of the 
home, what's happening is they 

649
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,960
were dying and we didn't get a 
chance to get him home or 

650
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,160
something to that effect. 
So I remember this person, she 

651
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,800
was at a minimum early 80s 
minimum, maybe mid. 

652
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,320
I saw her on a, let's just say I
saw her on a Saturday because of

653
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,320
what happens is I would do those
during the week or otherwise 

654
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,560
somebody else might have done 
it. 

655
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,240
So I saw her on a Saturday and I
met her family and you know, we 

656
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,600
just had a great conversation 
and it's like, you know, tell me

657
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,600
about your sister, 'cause she 
was already in the patient was 

658
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,400
already in a comatose state on 
Saturday, so you couldn't get 

659
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,840
her to rise and say or anything.
There was no reactions. 

660
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,560
They were just keeping her 
comfortable in the hospital. 

661
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,680
And her sister was really kind 
of like, I'm kind of surprised 

662
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,840
she hasn't died yet. 
And I said, why is that? 

663
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,520
And she's, you know, I said, 
does she have her spiritual, 

664
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,760
she's physically comfortable? 
How's her spiritual life? 

665
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Is she spiritually at peace? 
And she goes, yeah, she's a 

666
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,240
Christian. 
She's she should be just fine. 

667
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,680
I said, OK, you know, and I 
probably offered to pray with 

668
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,280
the family. 
And I believe they said yes, 

669
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,840
just for comfort and peace and 
not as a Christian in Hospice. 

670
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,640
What I you offer something, you 
know, and if you're a Christian,

671
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,160
well, that's fair, 'cause that's
what you are, right? 

672
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,600
You're going to, you can pray 
with them, but it's only an 

673
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,960
offer if they don't want it, 
they say no and it's no big 

674
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,880
deal. 
You go on. 

675
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,920
And that would happen every so 
often if I just felt LED, you 

676
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,720
know, I'd be like, hey, do you 
want me to pray for you? 

677
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,640
And they'd be like, yes, yes, 
please. 

678
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,360
So this Sunday, the next day, I 
go back and I visited this 

679
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,960
patient first in the morning 
'cause I had a couple admissions

680
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,640
to go do. 
And another thing I'm doing when

681
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,880
I'm going to the hospital is I 
want to make sure the nurses 

682
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680
know, hey, you can call me if 
you have questions. 

683
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,200
You know, we can help you get 
this patient comfortable. 

684
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,160
So it's all right. 
I go in the room, it's just 

685
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,320
right after eight or right 
around 8:00 in the morning. 

686
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,680
So it's, it's, I don't remember 
what time of the year, but it's,

687
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,720
it's very, it's well lit, but 
the room lights are off. 

688
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,320
It's a two-bedroom. 
The patient's by the window, the

689
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,400
window curtains, I believe, are 
partially open, not fully open. 

690
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,920
And so I go in and, and, you 
know, I just start, I just 

691
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,520
whisper, you know, hi. 
So and so I'm Marie, I'm here 

692
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,280
to, you know, I'm just going to 
do a few vital signs and check 

693
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,800
on you because see how you're 
doing, you know, are you in pain

694
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,520
or, you know, you just kind of 
talk to them like they're going 

695
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,480
to answer you, but they may not.
And I said, I'm just going to, 

696
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,480
you know, put this little thing 
on your finger and I'm going to 

697
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,160
check your oximeter and I'm 
going to check your temperature.

698
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,920
And I just kind of listened and 
you can kind of hear the 

699
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,960
gurgling in the lungs. 
And, you know, I just touched 

700
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,600
the scythoscope to the chest. 
And, you know, and I said, you 

701
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,360
know, I'm kind of put my stuff 
away. 

702
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,240
And I was like, maybe I, you 
know, I prayed yesterday with 

703
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:02,440
this family. 
I'll go ahead and pray with 

704
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,840
them, pray with this patient, 
you know, So I just said a quiet

705
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,880
little prayer, you know, and it 
was more of just just praying 

706
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,440
for her, this patient's peace 
and blessing and, you know, 

707
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,000
peaceful passing because I. 
You know, as much as you want 

708
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,120
to, I just can't, it couldn't 
sit there, right? 

709
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,080
And her family wasn't there yet.
And I don't know when they were 

710
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,280
going to get there. 
But so Rod, I'm, I'm walking 

711
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,800
away. 
I grab my bag and I go around to

712
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,320
the end of the bed and I'm 
walking towards the door and I 

713
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,720
see something on the side of my 
my face and, and, and you have 

714
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,560
to just stop. 
And you just kind of like, OK, 

715
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,480
I'm seeing something, you know, 
and you're just like, your 

716
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,720
brain's starting to catch up. 
I am seeing something. 

717
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:47,160
I'm really seeing something. 
It actually took me several 

718
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,880
years before I realized what I 
saw. 

719
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,280
So a lake is horizontal, right? 
Flat, and you see ripples in the

720
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,600
water. 
This is vertical water, 

721
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,480
basically. 
And I was watching the TV show 

722
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Stargate and I was like. 
Oh my gosh. 

723
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000
That's what it was. 
I saw that lake literally 

724
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,120
standing up next to me, so it 
wasn't like. 

725
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,360
How's it this I? 
Struggled to describe this. 

726
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,840
I so struggled to describe this.
So, so, so it's it's ripples, 

727
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,960
almost a misty look. 
And I look and I'm like, OK, so 

728
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,600
I can see beyond the room, you 
know, can I see out the next 

729
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,120
room? 
No. 

730
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,560
Can I see into the next room? 
No. 

731
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,960
But I'm like, you look down at 
the floor and you're like, 

732
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,760
there's a wheelchair against the
wall and there's, you know, odds

733
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,640
and ends because at the end of 
the bed to the wall, it's, it's,

734
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,840
I don't even want to say 5 feet,
but, you know, there's five. 

735
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,520
Feet at the end, but. 
I could see depth. 

736
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,640
I so could I see people? 
Could I see figures? 

737
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,960
Could I see angels? 
Could I see any spiritual thing 

738
00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:00,280
other than the effects? 
No, I could only see this, this 

739
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,600
water effect, almost like a 
mistiness. 

740
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,800
And I went to the other bed and 
I stood there and I just stared 

741
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:13,080
at the patient and the And this 
water effect, I keep calling it 

742
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,200
a water effect 'cause I don't 
want to call it a Stargate, 

743
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,840
'cause I mean, but. 
It. 

744
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:19,720
Was a portal. 
It was a tunnel. 

745
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:22,520
I'm just describing, you know 
that. 

746
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,400
And I just kept saying that same
thing and I'm like, this is 

747
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,480
really something, you know, and 
you're just like I, I laugh 

748
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,840
nowadays and I'm thinking some 
people be like, I want to go in 

749
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,080
it. 
Well, I technically did. 

750
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,680
I walked through it. 
Nothing happened to me because I

751
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,320
walk through it because I walked
at the end of the bed, But I 

752
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:46,560
thought our words. 
I said this on another podcast 

753
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,160
actually, I think I think our 
that prayer just helped open the

754
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,680
portal. 
It helped open it. 

755
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:59,200
I think it really did. 
I what's a good way to I'm a 

756
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,640
little stumped for words right 
now, but I don't want to say 

757
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,320
that my prayer opened the 
portal. 

758
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,840
I'm not going to say that it 
did, but it, maybe it helped it 

759
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,000
maybe, maybe the timing was just
right. 

760
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,640
Maybe it was just the fact that 
I just happened to be there at 

761
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,880
the right place and the right 
time and God just says, OK, 

762
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,880
Marie, today's the day you get 
to see something special. 

763
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,720
I think that's where the patient
was going to get going on her 

764
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,720
her journey. 
Yeah, that's such a great way to

765
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,560
look at it. 
You know, with all of this 

766
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,040
antidotical stuff, personal 
experiences, what we read in the

767
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,240
Bible, there has to be some 
humility because not one person 

768
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,760
has it all figured out. 
And just the way you depicted 

769
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,400
that it's, it's genuine, it's 
sincere. 

770
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,080
We don't want to use language 
like it was a Stargate just like

771
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,520
episode, you know, whatever from
from this TV show or something. 

772
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Like we don't really want to do 
that. 

773
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,240
But sometimes we don't have the 
vocabulary other than something 

774
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:00,160
like that, because a lot of 
stuff has been, you know, hush 

775
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,600
hush or just not. 
It's campfire stories. 

776
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:07,920
And, and, and that's what I love
about what you do, Marie, is 

777
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,040
you're giving people a license 
to be like, you know what, 

778
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,960
you're not alone. 
There's actually way more people

779
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,240
out there than we probably ever 
would have previously realized 

780
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,360
until the day of technology came
along to connect us all that 

781
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:26,560
there's tons of stories and tons
of experiences that do parallel 

782
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,960
each other. 
And I say a lot of the times the

783
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,080
God we wish to worship, I don't 
say that disrespectfully to 

784
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,880
anybody, but I say that as like 
the eye opener Marie that 

785
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,120
there's no denominational 
preference with God. 

786
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,440
He's he's omnipotent. 
He's omnipotent where I like I'm

787
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,720
when I'm talking about God, I'm 
talking about literally the 

788
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:50,440
creator, the light giver, the 
one who brings calamity, the one

789
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,080
who brings increase. 
All things are in his hand. 

790
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,080
So when I hear stories like 
that, I'm like a little kid at 

791
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,520
the candy store. 
I'm like this. 

792
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,120
We're getting closer to the 
heart of understanding our 

793
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,680
experiences and this vast, you 
know, network of people that 

794
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,080
kind of have been governed by 
the fear of can I talk about 

795
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,600
what I've seen or experienced 
because of things like a 

796
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,600
religious spirit or just fear 
mongering or just not feeling 

797
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,480
like you can fit in. 
There's not not a better 

798
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,640
compliment I can give you then 
to invite you on and literally 

799
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,280
ask my audience to go check out 
what you're doing and to hear 

800
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,320
your story, 'cause I believe in 
what you're doing and you 

801
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,600
sharing those stories right now,
almost every episode. 

802
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,920
God has allowed us to interact 
with the ripple effect. 

803
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,400
Marie, I'm still trying to 
understand how to explain this 

804
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,320
to people, but this stuff 
happens where a story, 

805
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,480
encouragement, the word, the 
eternal word that never returns 

806
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,280
void, It goes out, right? 
So we send it forth and it stirs

807
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,360
something else and somebody else
up. 

808
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,680
Then there's testimonies that 
come forth. 

809
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,880
It's like a chain reaction. 
We don't see all of it. 

810
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:07,400
Oh my gosh, I probably don't 
even see .001% of what God has 

811
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,560
done through these little 
podcasts. 

812
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,640
But when we do see something, we
understand it's very important. 

813
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:20,480
Give us some closing statements 
on just like your testimony, any

814
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,680
loose ends that you'd like to 
tie and I'm just going to hand 

815
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,360
the mic back to you. 
Thank you so much for your kind 

816
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,000
words about my podcasts. 
I appreciate that. 

817
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,440
I just used Campfire Stories 
couple episodes ago. 

818
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,440
I think if you heard that 
campfire conversation, I think I

819
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,200
used or have I even used it yet?
Oh my goodness. 

820
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,880
I'm just looking at my I. 
Don't even that's funny. 

821
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,520
You said campfire that I 
literally said it or I'm going 

822
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,520
to say it. 
Conversations in Hospice explain

823
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,720
because it's what a fitting 
words is. 

824
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,720
People need to be able to have 
hard conversations with people. 

825
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:01,800
And I want to just say, 
interestingly enough, I did not 

826
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:08,400
tell anybody about that person 
that almost hurt me that talked 

827
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,600
to my guardian Angel until I 
told like one person the next 

828
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,760
day. 
And they're like. 

829
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,840
Oh, I would have done. 
XYZ and I'm thinking you weren't

830
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,040
there and I just sealed it up, 
put that in the vault, didn't 

831
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,120
tell anybody until right before 
I ended up sharing it on the 

832
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,120
podcast. 
I told my nieces and they're 

833
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,840
like, wow, this is a great 
story. 

834
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,960
And so then my my other one, I 
didn't tell anybody for several 

835
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,000
couple years. 
What do you say? 

836
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,480
Like I didn't even have the 
words you, you called it. 

837
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,480
I did not have the words to 
describe what I saw. 

838
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,320
So, so to wrap up, where am I 
and what am I doing? 

839
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,560
I am, I am going to keep on 
doing Hospice explained. 

840
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,520
And if somebody that's listening
wants to share their Hospice 

841
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,160
story, I, I love kind of going 
over those Hospice stories. 

842
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,640
If you're a medical professional
and you want to encourage 

843
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,480
somebody, you're welcome to be 
on Hospice explained. 

844
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,600
Both of those, you know, they 
just kind of fit and I really do

845
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,320
keep it a safe place for, you 
know, belief systems. 

846
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,120
So, you know, you don't have to 
be believing in a certain system

847
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,720
or sorry, not to believe in a 
certain system. 

848
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,000
You don't have to believe a 
certain way to be a guest on the

849
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,480
show by any means on either way 
on either that or Hospice 

850
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,080
encounters, but Hospice 
encounters piercing the veil. 

851
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,040
And I got that from fellow 
podcaster Brandon Spain on 

852
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,360
unrefined podcast. 
He, he said, I said, Brandon, we

853
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:47,360
were doing a, a podcast group, 
you know, online and I said 

854
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,320
Hospice encounters needs more. 
And he goes, how about piercing 

855
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,480
the veil? 
And I thought, you know, that 

856
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,000
really, that really picks that 
piece right in the right in the 

857
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,560
middle. 
That's exactly what it is. 

858
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,680
There's a veil that we can't 
see. 

859
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,080
And I came down for me a few 
times, you know, in the 

860
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,000
different moments, like when the
Angel stopped me from hurting 

861
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,880
myself in the bathtub, not 
hurting myself, but falling in 

862
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,000
the bathtub or, you know, from 
protecting me as a teenager. 

863
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,400
So there's a veil. 
And if you want to Share your 

864
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,560
story, and Rod's been on Hospice
encounters. 

865
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,280
If you want to Share your story,
I'd be happy to have you. 

866
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:29,440
And I got to be honest, Rod, I 
think it's going towards near 

867
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,080
death encounters. 
I don't know why it's not the 

868
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,240
way I originally intended 
Hospice encounters to go, but 

869
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:40,560
that seems to be kind of the, 
the way it's starting to head. 

870
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,520
So I think like you really felt,
I, I think it gave you some 

871
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,120
peace or it gave you, what did 
you use the word? 

872
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,320
It gave you some closure. 
A place, yeah, like a place to 

873
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,280
air it out. 
Like I I recited my experience 

874
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,240
in my own mind. 
People in my personal life knew 

875
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,400
it. 
But once people started, you 

876
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,040
know, requesting me to come on 
their podcast, I think I've been

877
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,840
on 1/2 a dozen shows to talk 
about my experience. 

878
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,680
Every time it felt a little bit 
better, it aired it out. 

879
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,840
Yeah, exactly. 
And so I, I think that might be 

880
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,520
where it's heading. 
I'm not stressing over it 

881
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,760
because podcasting. 
Nobody knows how much time it 

882
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,400
takes except another podcaster 
probably, or somebody. 

883
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,440
That used to podcast. 
I understand what you're going 

884
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,400
through. 
Yeah, I know I I work and I, you

885
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know, got lots going on. 
So podcasting is I'm just not 

886
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stressing over it. 
But as this as the folks come 

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in, I'll I'll do the interviews.
So I appreciate being on your so

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sorry, Rod. 
Thank you so much for having me 

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on Millennial Muster Seed 
podcast. 

890
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It's been an honor to have you 
here. 

891
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You're just as genuine and 
authentic as they come, Marie 

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and I really believe in what 
you're doing. 

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And I, you know, just to 
reiterate what you said, I'm in 

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agreement with you. 
There is no stress. 

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Things morph and change on our 
shows and, and kind of meeting 

896
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the need and just going with it 
is so important to encourage my 

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audience. 
If you guys have dealt with 

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something, you're not alone. 
I've had so many people say I'm 

899
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so intimidated as a listener of 
all these podcasts for years to 

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come on a podcast. 
But I want to encourage you 

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guys. 
We're real people dealing with 

902
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,560
real life scenarios, real faith,
real problems, right? 

903
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,680
We're just like, don't put 
anybody on a pedestal. 

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Reach out to me. 
Reach out to Marie, however you 

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00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,760
want to do that and come forward
and testify, Marie, It's an 

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00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,880
honor. 
Thank you. 

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00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,640
Thank you very much. 
Coming to you from Southeastern 

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PA. 
That's it, That's the show. 

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God bless and goodbye. 
Hello, my name is Marie Betcher.

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I am host of Hospice Explain 
Podcast and Hospice Encounters 

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podcast and welcome to the 
Millennial Must. 

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The. 
I'm sorry. 

913
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Wait. 
Welcome. 

914
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,800
Do you know how many reels of 
loopers I have with people 

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00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,480
tongue? 
I plan to the end of my episode 

916
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,880
sometimes. 
Oh my gosh, yeah. 

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I I can use what you've laid 
down. 

918
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,320
Just do the welcome to the 
Millennium mustard seed. 

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Not all put put them together. 
OK, welcome to the Millennial 

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Mustard Seed podcast. 
The. 

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None.
