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Hello folks, this is Princess. 
You are listening to the 

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Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
Thanks for listening. 

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Don't forget to share with your 
friends. 

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That's tough. 
We're in a very tough spot. 

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I think that what we're doing 
right now is a great benefit and

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virtue because it's an end 
around between this whole 

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corrupt informational system, 
media system. 

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We claim to believe in a God who
spoke the universe into 

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existence and literally raised 
himself from the dead, and yet 

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we're not going to believe that 
anything else exists in the 

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spirit realm, even though his 
word tells us that they do. 

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Their bodies weren't permitted 
to go to sleep like humans do, 

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and they weren't permitted to go
to heaven, so they wander the 

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earth. 
You know, I've seen the eyes 

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turn black to unknown tongues 
being spoken. 

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These giants would love way up 
in the highland, the young 

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graves. 
The young men would hide them in

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the trees and wait for one of 
these 12 footers to come walking

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down the path and they would 
jump on them and kill them, drag

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them back to the village, and 
the village would feast on the 

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body freedom. 
Then people start to get 

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weapons, they start to get 
armor, they start to build 

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cities. 
They start to fortify their 

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cities. 
Now God looks down and there's 

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violence everywhere. 
The battle, this war that we are

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at, is not against each other. 
It's against these 

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principalities and these rulers 
and these archons in the high 

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places. 
It's really worthwhile to read 

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the Bible yourself. 
Fear is one of the primary 

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drivers of mind control because 
we have to take every thought 

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captive and resist fear. 
You're going to have a testimony

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that is a justice case against 
the Kingdom of darkness. 

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None. 
Welcome back to the Millennium 

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Mustard Seed. 
I'm your host, Rod, and thank 

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you for being here with me for 
another awesome episode. 

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And this is a really cool one, 
man. 

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I have Adam Ferris join me for a
fascinating conversation about a

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comic book that he wrote. 
And it's a dope comic book, you 

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guys. 
It's a little bit graphic, so 

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it's not quite recommended for 
the youngins, but listen, this 

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is definitely for your 15, you 
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the David and Goliath story. 
So Adam reached out to me a few 

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months back and he's like man 
Gary Wayne and Blurry creatures 

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and your show The Millennium 
Mustard Seed had ultimately 

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inspired him during a critical 
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Christian comic book. 
And well, we he testifies on 

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that. 
We get into what that story 

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looks like. 
There was some tragedy, there 

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was a lot of opposition. 
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he literally follows God and the
nudgings and just does something

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that's different. 
And there's a shift that took 

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place in his life. 
And so it's a really cool, 

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powerful episode in the sense 
where he testifies the hardship 

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and deprivation leading up to 
this breakthrough moment 

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creating what's called 5 Stones.
And he sent me the a copy of it.

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And I read through it and looked
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little bit of time on it and was
blown away by how necessary it 

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is for us to have the correct 
worldview of what these biblical

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stories look like. 
It is not a cute little animated

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story. 
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depictively to the scenario of 
David and Goliath, a stone being

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slung into the Dome of a giant 
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Hacked Off in front of 
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So this is something that might 
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Sin City or 300 movie, a little 
hack and slash, some gore to it.

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That's why it's for a mature 
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So that's the disclaimer. 
It is for a mature audience, not

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this episode, but the comic book
itself because it's graphic, but

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it really does depict what 
happened in the story of David 

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and Goliath when you know God's 
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decapitated. 
That can look graphic. 

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But you know, there's some cool 
highlights during this interview

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where it's just heartfelt, 
encouraging, and the struggle 

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gets depicted for us from Mr. 
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You guys can find details in the
show notes to get a copy of 

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Adam's comic book 5 Stones, and 
you can also find in the details

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of the show notes a way to help 
us in our time of need. 

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I think we may have gotten some 
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Spotify thing. 
It looks like subscriber has 

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finally refreshed itself and 
it's active, alive and ready. 

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I don't. 
I'm hoping if one of you, 100 of

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you out there will try that, 
please plant a seed and help us 

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in time of need. 
We really do need you guys to 

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step up and bless us back right 
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We're in a major building and 
growing phase and we need all 

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the help that we can get. 
You can find a copy in the 

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details of the show notes to my 
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The words are salt. 
Leave us a five star rating and 

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review on your favorite podcast,
Catcher. 

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That helps us reach one more 
person just like me and you. 

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And I think it's about time to 
jump into this episode. 

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I'm ready. 
Are you guys ready? 

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Let's go. 
I am Adam Ferris and I'd like to

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welcome us to the Millennial 
Mustard Seed podcast. 

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Adam, you're a first time guest.
You have an interesting story 

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and an interesting comic book 
that you created. 

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Appreciate it, buddy. 
Appreciate you having me. 

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It's an honor. 
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So you reached out, I want to 
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this e-mail from you and you 
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couple pages of this comic book.
And, and I remember I just sent 

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you an e-mail back and I'm like,
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And so we got on the phone, I 
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of that original e-mail. 
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out. 
Again, you know, you, you write 

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something, you get a book out, 
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out? 
You got to market it. 

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You got to send it out. 
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trying to, to get it to people. 
That was the folks I had to, to 

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make sure that that was the 
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getting it to people. 
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great to, you know, you got it 
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awesome for to, to, to start to 
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to share stories and whatnot. 
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start off with telling us a 
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how you came to Christ, and then
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thing. 
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So again, Adam Ferris, long and 
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a, what I like to say is a 
really gritty version of David 

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and Goliath and and really 
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If you were standing there 
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like? 
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crazy endeavor. 
So to get back to 2022, I'd been

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a manager at this point 13 
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a tire facility. 
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years and was getting burnt out.
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I'm, I turned 40 years old. 
I was going through all that 

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stuff. 
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a lot out of me, you know, 
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I was pretty burnt out and I was
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next path. 
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of hit my goal. 
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stuff and Jordan Peterson and 
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me. 
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Pentecostal Christian, but left 
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through one of those worship in 
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And you know, it was, it was, it
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a person with the way that my 
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burnt on, you know, my faith or 
anything, but just it was people

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and and you know, you don't want
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kind of stuff. 
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specifically around this time, I
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Jordan Peterson. 
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men and being strong and he 
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talk about strength, be the 
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father's funeral. 
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stuck to me just quenchingly in 
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fine. 
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So then, yeah, it's like about 
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kind of culminating. 
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resignation and I just needed a 
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I needed a less stressful job. 
I got 4 kids, I got a big 

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family, I got a bunch of 
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So, you know, I, I needed a 
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So the Thursday before I'm going
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this, you know, in my mind, I'm 
going to take a little vacation,

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some me time and just, you know,
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Thursday before I'm supposed to 
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They're about two hours away and
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hospital. 
It's looking like a blood clot 

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in his leg. 
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And, you know, but dad wasn't in
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some scares, but he's tough. 
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So it just kind of was like, oh,
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I'll come up here in the morning
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Told my wife, you know, she's 
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different. 
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to the nurse and she's like, 
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You know, was was I'm a kind of 
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I and I'll go into all that 
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mentally preparing for things. 
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hooked up on everything was bad.
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Me and mom, you know, we leave, 
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burger, get back to the house, 
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Still in silence. 
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hospital. 
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Hey, can you guys please come 
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Oh, absolutely. 
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on, Mom knows what's going on, 
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pulling in the parking lot and 
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very sorry to do this over the 
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We kind of have to. 
He didn't make it. 

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It's on speakerphone. 
I'm right next to mom. 

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Like mom lost her best friend 
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You know, they've been, you 
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So that Jordan Peterson quote 
just immediately was like hit me

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in the head and I was like, all 
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I know what I got to do. 
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tight. 
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him. 
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You know, father had passed, you
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wasn't horrible health was, was 
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And and you know, you, what do 
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I just, I knew again, my dad was
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I was raised by a tough man. 
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to step up just, it just was 
there and, and you know, I, I 

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said some prayers, you know, it 
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you know, I wasn't, you know, I 
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But again, so get back, take 
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thing, folks, family, blah, 
blah, blah, pick everything out,

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which was incredibly, incredibly
difficult to, you know, what are

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you going to do and how you 
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What does he want? 
What does the family want? 

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You know, a lot of times when 
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fighting. 
So, you know, just again, I kept

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thinking about Jordan Peterson. 
That quote was like, I got to do

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this for Dad. 
I got to I got to keep this 

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together. 
So did and then had to go start 

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that new job that Monday, you 
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Hey, how you doing? 
Da da, da da da 'cause you know,

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that's how I was raised, man, 
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family. 
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everybody was good. 
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start to crack because again, 
I've been holding this all back,

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holding everybody strong and and
you know, eventually it's, it's 

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going to keep, you know, catch 
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And then plus, you know, the 
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dead, you know, and that's what 
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you, you know, the old man's 
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You're, you're the old man, you 
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your family is and you know, 
how, how everything's set up and

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that's, that's heavy, that's 
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I'm the guy people go to. 
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take some time off and just get 
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been, you know, I'd, I'd say 
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We ended up taking a little 
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and was like, I don't know, I'll
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with, you know, the full family 
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So while we're on this vacation,
I, I just kept David and Goliath

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kept going through my head and, 
and one thing I forgot to 

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mention, I got a backtrack is 
while I was going through this 

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self help listening to all this 
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strong urge to write. 
And I'm not a writer. 

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It's not my thing by any 
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It was just like, you know, cuz 
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businessman. 
I'm a career man. 

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So that's just the way my mind 
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years. 
So I'm just like, oh, you know, 

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you write a book, you know, it's
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da, da. 
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writing, writing, writing. 
Obviously, you know, we know 

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what was going on now. 
But so anyway, so, so I'm going 

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through my, my time. 
I've taken some time off and I'm

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spending a lot of time out in 
the yard with the ducks and, you

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know, just trying to, to get me 
better. 

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Can't say enough for my best 
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She's she so I needed it and I'm
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puts me first. 
So she's, you know, like you 

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need this, you need, you need 
take some time. 

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So towards the end of it, I'm 
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to get out and I'm feeling 
better and some job 

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opportunities start, start 
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sure what to do. 
You know, I, I could do this, I 

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could do that. 
I, you know, I'm, I don't have 

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anybody I can go to anymore. 
I, you know, to, to say, hey, 

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what do you think about this 
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Well, you know, blah, blah. 
So a lot of things, a lot of 

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thoughts, a lot of inspiration 
was hitting me. 

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I was thinking about Dave and 
Goliath constantly and and I 

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just something about this one 
particular job that was just an 

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amazing, amazing opportunity for
my family come through. 

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And but just there was pieces of
it, you know, and I'll go into 

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the, you know, like the 
complexity of like breaking 

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things down, but just there's a 
lot of details I could tell like

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this was given this was put 
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It wasn't like, you know, Hey, 
somebody return my phone call 

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like it just so I remember 
sitting I was in the shower one 

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time. 
I'm one of those guys that, you 

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know, one of the people all over
the think in the shower and, and

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just everything's hitting me and
I was like, you know, I need 

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some help. 
I don't know what to do I'm I'm,

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I'm getting older. 
I'm feeling my age at this point

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because my my father had just 
passed. 

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I don't know what to do. 
I feel like you're putting this 

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job here in my, you know, in my,
in my path. 

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I feel like all these things 
like whatever you need, what 

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I'm, I'm turning myself to you. 
I was like, I'm tapping out, you

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know, take me, give me, show me 
whatever. 

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I don't, I don't know, you know,
you know me. 

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I don't know what words to say, 
but you know what I'm saying. 

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Like I just was like, I'm God 
help me and whatever you show me

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is what I will do 100%. 
And, and then I started thinking

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about it, you know, just again, 
the way I, I, my head works. 

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So I was like, all right, well, 
then what, what can I do? 

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Then what, you know, I keep 
feeling like this Dave and 

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Goliath thing is just here. 
So I'm going to do that. 

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And, and you know, and at this 
point I'm just like talking, you

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know, I felt like that's the 
best way I could do to, you 

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know, so I was like, if you, if 
that's wrong, just show me. 

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Go ahead and show me. 
It's all good. 

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But I feel like this is what it 
is. 

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So let's do that. 
And I feel like, you know, I'm 

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not a drawer, you know, I can't 
paint, you know, I have some 

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artistic skill, but it's more of
an like AI can build stuff. 

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So I was like, I just I feel 
like you've been putting writing

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on my heart. 
So we're going to do this, you 

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know, and and I'm a big comic 
book guy. 

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I was, you know, that was my 
thing about a sports dude. 

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So I was like, yeah, I think 
that's that's kind of the way 

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we're going to go. 
That's the best way that I 

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would, I would be approached, 
you know, as, as you know, if 

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somebody was trying to reach me 
in that sense, you know, 

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something a really crazy visual 
representation would do it. 

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So I was like, all right, that 
would reach me. 

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So that's what I'm going to do. 
I'm going to do my age 

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demographic because I feel like,
you know, yeah, this is not a 

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you wouldn't be choosing me to 
do a Kitty story. 

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So I was like, all right, let's 
let's just do this thing. 

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And I, I read the Dave and Glide
story, I don't know, a million 

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times. 
And, and that's when a lot of 

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the, the stuff that we had 
talked about before, that's when

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all that stuff really kicked off
all the signs and all the, you 

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know, the things which 
obviously, you know, we're going

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to go into. 
But that was it. 

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It just, it started rolling from
there and and I had to kind of 

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kind of get started basically. 
You were kind of brought to the 

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bottom of the barrel and God 
wanted you to know this is what 

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I'm asking you to do. 
You kind of had to make this 

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decision, right? 
It sounds like a lots going on 

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emotionally. 
You needed to reflect. 

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You had kind of an ego death, 
right? 

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There's all this stuff going on 
where it's like, man, what do 

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you want me to do? 
And he starts to impress and 

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lead you into this Goliath David
and Goliath story, which is, you

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know. 
Everybody knows that story all 

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the way from Sunday school all 
the way up like that. 

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But, you know, I think there's 
some graphic that that hasn't 

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been heavily applied to it. 
You know, this is one thing that

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I really love about seeing 
artists getting inspired 

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through, you know, podcasting 
and through God nudging them 

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and, and all these different 
avenues where it's like, OK, we 

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have the broadcast, right? 
We have people we can listen to,

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to encourage us and to get us to
think different about things. 

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But you start putting a visual 
effect onto that. 

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And I'm a big proponent of not 
having a flashing screen in 

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front of you all the time. 
If we really knew, you know, 

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like Nazi Germany, they wanted 
ATV in every single house. 

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I mean, all you got to do is a 
little bit of research to 

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understand what kind of behind 
the scenes subliminal 

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subconscious things are going on
and frequency things. 

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So I really like the idea of 
getting a comic book out. 

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So I mean, this is where God is 
leading you, right? 

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And then there's some signs. 
Let's talk about a couple of the

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things that were happening that 
was like, this is undisputable. 

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You're opening doors, you're 
nudging me and giving me 

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confirmations about this 
process. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And and to your point real 

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quick, that's why I only in 
cover on the the front cover on 

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the inside, the very top thing 
is Second Corinthians 12/9. 

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And he said unto me, my grace is
sufficient for thee, for my 

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strength is made perfect in 
weakness. 

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That's why that's the first 
thing that you see when you open

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this book is because that was, 
that was what happened. 

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I was, I was, I'm a pretty tough
dude, you know, I can handle 

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some stuff. 
But it was like I gave up. 

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I don't know what to do. 
And then and the end result was 

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that. 
So, yeah. 

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So science, man, it was a 
beautiful, wonderful, amazing 

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thing. 
And it's still going like this. 

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So anyway, so it's, it's like 
kind of, you know, I have a blog

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to really developed into just 
like really just structurally 

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breaking things down about the 
Bible. 

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But so I got started, read this,
read the read the David and 

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Goliath story a million times, 
started going over stuff, 

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started time to to write some 
stuff. 

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And, you know, looking at comic 
books to kind of get an idea of,

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of, you know, panels and, you 
know, they call it the flip 

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page, you know, so you're going 
to hit somebody with something 

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you do, you know, just the 
structure. 

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I mean, and that's again, that's
how I've been looking at things 

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for 13 years is super 
structured. 

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And, and, you know, we talked 
about the the the work 

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environment. 
So I'm just breaking it down and

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I start shopping for artists. 
It's like, all right, well, I 

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want somebody that's, you know, 
now it's going to do this just 

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for the money that's going to 
get into it and hopefully get 

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something from it. 
But but it needed to be more 

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than just his book. 
Blah. 

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You know, here's, you know, so I
start having conversations, you 

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know, just like I do in the work
thing is just you start a 

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conversation, see if it goes 
from there. 

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And I talked to a few different 
people and, you know, it was hit

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and miss and miss and I talked 
to this one guy and it felt like

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a good conversation. 
So I sent him the script and, 

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and it'd been a couple of days. 
And the main thing that I want 

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to relay was how the, the point 
of this story was, was faith. 

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And it, I dealt with that the 
entire time and, and everything,

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every aspect of this was, was 
faith. 

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I, I send it two days 
immediately I'm self doubting. 

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I've talked to a bunch of 
people. 

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No one wants to do this. 
I'm a weirdo. 

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It's a niche and a niche, you 
know, what am I doing? 

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And I remember sitting on the 
couch beside my wife and my 

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phone was, you know, sitting on 
the thing. 

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And I was just in my head and it
went through. 

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Check your e-mail. 
And I'm like, you know, but it 

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it, and this is what I was 
learning was, was, you know, a 

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lot. 
You know, a lot of times when 

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God talks to you, it's your 
head, it's your voice. 

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And if you're not listening, you
think it's your voice, you know,

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and I feel like, you know, I 
want to, I want to relay that to

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anybody, listen to everybody. 
Listen, I shouldn't say anybody.

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You know, sometimes he puts it 
puts you in your head. 

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And that's what I was dealing 
with. 

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So I'm like, OK, if I check my 
e-mail and there's an e-mail 

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from this dude, I'm a blow 
gasket. 

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Like what's going on here? 
I so I grabbed my phone, check 

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the e-mail and not only was it, 
yeah, hey, I'm down. 

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Was he was very, very 
interested, love the script and 

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complimented how, how this, this
script was put together. 

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I've never done that before. 
That was the very, very first 

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thing, very first script I've 
ever put together from Google 

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and YouTube videos. 
And, you know, he's like, Oh, 

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yeah, yeah, I love the 
structure, blah, blah, blah. 

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So it was like, OK, all right, 
you know, sorry to doubt. 

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You know, I get it. 
So then it started rolling from 

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there. 
We put it together. 

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And then coincidentally. 
So one thing about this job was 

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was it was a traveling position.
That was one of the things that 

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was really, really good about it
was, you know, 4 hours made our 

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day. 
I'd be behind the wheel. 

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And that, you know, that's, you 
know, a lot of a lot of good 

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things you can do with that. 
So at this point, you know, I'm,

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I'm reading the Bible every day 
and, and just kind of just 

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picking things apart and 
learning things. 

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And, you know, I threw a credit 
to one hour one book Doctor 

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00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,600
Randall Smith. 
Incredible. 

438
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,160
I just stumbled upon that while 
I'm doing my my driving. 

439
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,720
And I know God put that in my 
path because that ended up being

440
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,360
he not only just breaks the 
Bible down, it's for 

441
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,240
missionaries. 
I didn't know that. 

442
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,920
So I'm just like getting this 
like super like this guy just 

443
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,680
came from Israel. 
Like my wife one day says, you 

444
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,040
know, just listen to some 
podcasts, check some podcasts 

445
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000
out. 
You know, you got 4 hours a day.

446
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,800
So, so this is crazy to say it 
now. 

447
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:51,440
I said, you know, I used to read
about Nephilim back in the day. 

448
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,080
I wonder if there's anything 
about that out there. 

449
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,200
You know, like I'm so naive, 
like soup just out of it, you 

450
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,920
know, just, I'm a working man. 
That's where my head was at. 

451
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,240
And little did I know, I mean, I
found you found everybody 

452
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,080
That's, you know, Gary Wayne. 
I gave Gary Wayne a shout out. 

453
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,200
I, I ended up emailing him was 
like, hey, man, I'm super 

454
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,720
inspired by your stuff. 
I'm writing a book, you know, I,

455
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,920
I'd like to share your stuff. 
Do you mind if I give you a 

456
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,400
shout out? 
And he's like, yeah, absolutely 

457
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,280
go for it. 
So I ended up reaching out to 

458
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,520
the to the dude and I'm like, 
man, I got to make some edits. 

459
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,560
This this story is super 
complex. 

460
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,320
And that's when it clicked of 
why I'm doing Dave and Goliath. 

461
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,600
And you know, again, since then 
I've learned more. 

462
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,320
It also God wanted me to, you 
know, God loves David and he 

463
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,520
wanted me to talk about David, 
which is that's super inspiring 

464
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:53,280
too, of just a, a human, you 
know, for that, to God's honest 

465
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,000
truth, for that to be put in my 
path and be put on my heart is 

466
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,800
just incredible. 
But yeah, so I started going 

467
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,120
down these rabbit holes of, of 
the story and listening to all 

468
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:08,720
these and I'm like, Oh my gosh, 
This is why. 

469
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,560
This is why 'cause I know just 
as a, as a person, I've heard 

470
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,600
people quote the Amalekites of 
like why God is so bad and 

471
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,280
stuff. 
So I came across that I'm like, 

472
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,520
hold up, hold up. 
And I, you know, I start going 

473
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,840
down these roads. 
But anyway, so the next crazy 

474
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,680
sign was got the, you know, got 
the, the panels put together and

475
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,800
all this stuff. 
And then I wanted to do like a 

476
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,120
Sin City black and white, like 
in your face. 

477
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:50,000
But I'm also, you know, I don't 
want to call myself artist by no

478
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,040
means, but I like things to just
kind of flow to like when I'm 

479
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600
building something, I don't I 
like to have an idea, but I like

480
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,320
to to be to to be organic, I 
guess. 

481
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,440
So I'm, I'm seeing the panel 
something like no, black and 

482
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,360
White's not working. 
It's not it doesn't have the 

483
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,400
punch, doesn't have the punch. 
And you know, the financials 

484
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,960
wasn't a part of it. 
You know, I don't want to focus 

485
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,880
on the financials. 
No, by no means. 

486
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,080
But it's like it's just another 
cog in the scrote, my lamps 

487
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,160
going out, another cog in the 
spoke. 

488
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,600
So just wait. 
There it is. 

489
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Edit so color. 
So yeah, sorry. 

490
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,040
I'm sorry man, the light messed 
me up. 

491
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Take a little intermission. 
I got to edit here anyway, so 

492
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,360
let's take a little stretch and 
just a reset. 

493
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Yeah, I know goofy lamp just 
sort of flicking around. 

494
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Alright, so looking at the black
and white, I'm not feeling it. 

495
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:05,160
And then it goes through my head
of like you do it, you color and

496
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,320
again it just like the the the 
phone thing. 

497
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:13,240
I'm like, OK, OK, you know, 
because I had been kind of 

498
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,080
getting an idea of the, the, the
direction I wanted to go and I 

499
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,760
was looking at some watercolor 
and stuff. 

500
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,800
And I like, I like that aspect 
because it gives it more 

501
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,360
complexity and just more, you 
know, atmosphere. 

502
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,880
So like, OK, all right, I guess 
I'm good at watercolor paint. 

503
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,320
And I, I took my wife. 
I, you know, she's, she's my 

504
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,640
best friend. 
I bounce everything off her and 

505
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,440
it's kind of well, you know, OK,
you know, do what you got to do.

506
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,440
So I'm laying in bed and it's 
just hit me, man. 

507
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,120
I'm like, what am I? 
What am I doing? 

508
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,560
I'm writing a book, doing comic 
book now I'm going to watercolor

509
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,200
paint it like, what am I doing? 
What are you doing, Adam? 

510
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:04,400
You know, and I I just closed my
eyes and I was like, I was like,

511
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,200
please just make a sound. 
Just show me something. 

512
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:13,920
Do you know, let me know I'm in 
the right direction And man, 

513
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,720
immediately like there I heard, 
you know, like a a little faint 

514
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800
sound out in the I live in the 
neighborhood. 

515
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,720
So it's like somebody hitting 
the door or whatever, closing 

516
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,000
their door. 
Then there was this this crazy. 

517
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,600
It was like a trumpet. 
The only thing reference point I

518
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,520
can use it sound like a trumpet,
but it was like a like a war 

519
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:44,360
horn like A1 tone deep powerful.
It was it was I felt it like it 

520
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,800
was over top of me. 
I felt I want to really break 

521
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,720
down the complexity of that like
I I I felt like it was 

522
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,000
commanding me like it was it it.
It made me like it knew me. 

523
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,240
It was in the room like it hurt 
it just when you read in the 

524
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,880
Bible, when people anytime 
somebody meets an Angel or 

525
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,000
thinks they see God, whatever 
case, they all say the same 

526
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,120
thing that they drop to their 
feet hid their face and it 

527
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,320
sounds like just words, but it's
not it's it it is a it's a 

528
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,440
reactive thing. 
I can as a God's honest truth 

529
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,480
tell you right now. 
I heard it. 

530
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,760
I heard this powerful trumpet 
because I said make a sound, but

531
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,520
I said show me something. 
Let me smell something. 

532
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,680
You know, he would have whatever
it was and and he did and and I 

533
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,520
hunkered down and and it just it
took it took everything it was. 

534
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,440
And I remember just literally I 
was like, yes, Sir, 10 four 

535
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,880
understood, you know, 
absolutely. 

536
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,040
And and and man, I just got to 
rolling from there. 

537
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,880
I really, really dove into the 
the the fringe part of 

538
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,720
everything and and broke down 
how and what and through 

539
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,920
genealogy and atavism what 
happened. 

540
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,520
And that's again like to to 
throw about the the blog was a 

541
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,920
lot of stuff. 
I'm focusing on two of of these 

542
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,240
fringe things. 
So, yeah, yeah, I got the 

543
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,600
trumpet got, got the watercolor 
going and put it out. 

544
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,800
And well, there was a lot, I'd 
say he, he, that was another 

545
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,680
thing that that he, he did for 
me was bring me a lot closer 

546
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760
with my kids. 
Not, not to say that I wasn't 

547
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,680
real close, but you know, I 
never watercolored. 

548
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,040
So what I did, you know, I got, 
I got to thinking about it when 

549
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,400
I got the watercolor paper and 
I've told my kids, I said, hey, 

550
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,200
draw some crazy stuff, fill it 
up. 

551
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,720
The wildest things you can think
of, flying dinosaurs, you know, 

552
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,600
everything. 
And I would just practice 

553
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,640
watercolor and that stuff. 
And they, you know, I'm going to

554
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,000
love it and put it up on the 
wall. 

555
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,840
But it's like, yeah, I'm just 
trying to figure out how to do 

556
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,160
this so I don't look like a 
dummy. 

557
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,040
Yeah. 
And and he just kept putting 

558
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:17,560
things in my in my way. 
The job that I had, I managed 

559
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,960
different facilities in between 
a facility, there was a printer,

560
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,600
literally a printer company 
right in the middle of nowhere. 

561
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,320
You know, you know how country 
towns are right in the middle of

562
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,639
nowhere at this intersection was
a printer. 

563
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,280
So every day I pass this 
printer. 

564
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,080
So it was perfect. 
I would, I would do whatever I 

565
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,280
would need. 
I would e-mail him. 

566
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,520
I'd stop by and get my stuff, 
come back, you know, bring it to

567
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,560
them, have them scan it in, put 
it together. 

568
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,120
Yeah. 
Kept kept pushing me, kept 

569
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,440
pushing me. 
There was lots of times where, 

570
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,120
you know, I'd get to get the 
feeling down and like, I can't 

571
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,640
do this. 
This is, you know, I want to 

572
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,920
make you proud, but I don't, you
know, and then we'd go to church

573
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,960
and then because we, we ended up
finding a, a nice church up the 

574
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,000
street. 
And that was another thing that,

575
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,280
that, you know, again, I, I, I 
jumped in, I told him you got 

576
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,040
me. 
So we got the family back in the

577
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,520
church. 
He found a nice church up the 

578
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,800
street. 
So we, I'd go to church on a 

579
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Sunday and I would hear exactly 
what I would need. 

580
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,600
Like he would. 
I mean, there was one time and 

581
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,400
you talked about gifts during 
the prayer. 

582
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,520
You know, I was, I was kind of 
conveying to my wife having 

583
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,720
some, you know, again, going 
through some doubts. 

584
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,480
And then he starts talking about
Romans 12 and gifts and my wife 

585
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,800
just, like hits me on the leg 
was like, there you go. 

586
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I get it. 

587
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,040
I get it. 
So yeah, yeah. 

588
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,360
In a nutshell, that's kind of 
how things went down, man. 

589
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:54,240
I know that there's like a lot 
of emotion behind it. 

590
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,360
Like I can feel that. 
And like when we originally 

591
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:03,720
talked, hearing how all of this 
stuff unfolded and the nudgings 

592
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:07,000
are what's so important because 
what I experienced also, Adam, 

593
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,560
is everything everybody else 
experiences, right? 

594
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,240
Doubt. 
It's a challenge. 

595
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:13,760
You know, I've been doing this 
show five years. 

596
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,760
We're coming up on six years, 
man, just the investment of time

597
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,080
and prayer and research and 
editing, postproduct all this 

598
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,400
stuff. 
There's times where I doubt and 

599
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,320
I'm like, God, is it working? 
Is it reaching people? 

600
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,920
And and then I'll get the e-mail
or I'll get in touch with 

601
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,520
somebody and be like, how did 
the podcast end up in that 

602
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,480
person's ear? 
Like what is going on? 

603
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,600
And it's like this 
encouragement. 

604
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,400
It's like a little fresh breath 
of air because sometimes, you 

605
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,880
know, we get caught in this 
rhythm of the enemies shooting 

606
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,800
arrows at us. 
We have a calling and a door to 

607
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,360
walk through. 
Like each one of us has a 

608
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,080
heavenly scroll with duties 
written on it about what we're 

609
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,360
supposed to do. 
You know, God ordained things 

610
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,600
for us to do beforehand. 
We've been sent in and he moves 

611
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,840
in and through us to complete 
his will, right. 

612
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,840
And when we have a generation of
people that really need to get a

613
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,240
book back in their hands and to 
have a good healthy rotation of 

614
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,280
books. 
Now that's a huge deal for me 

615
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000
because I want to get readers 
reading again. 

616
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,920
More importantly, the Bible 
first and foremost. 

617
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,800
But there's all this other 
material that the ancient Near 

618
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,960
Eastern mindset, the men who 
were writing the word of God, 

619
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,360
moved by the power of the Holy 
Spirit to write the Bible. 

620
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,240
We're aware of this this this 
world set. 

621
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,800
Doctor Michael Heizer talks 
about that. 

622
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,800
So when I look at your comic 
book, you know, and I have a 

623
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,360
couple others I got like the 
Kingston series, right? 

624
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,560
It's like megalithic series, 
man. 

625
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,000
They're just boom, boom, boom 
huge. 

626
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,440
My wife ordered them for me a 
couple years ago and I love 

627
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,920
going through that. 
And even your book here, 5 

628
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,080
stones, man, I have it right 
here with me and just getting a 

629
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,440
visual for what God's doing. 
So I'm reading the Bible all the

630
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,640
time. 
I'm studying through the word 

631
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,560
all the time when I get a visual
aid. 

632
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,640
Not saying that this is like 
verbatim scripture, but I but I 

633
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,560
know the story. 
My son's favorite story is whose

634
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,160
name is Adam also, and mine is 
the story of David and Goliath. 

635
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,760
So to be able to have this 
visual aid and this is a little 

636
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,120
bit gruesome. 
You said Sin City. 

637
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,640
I think it's like the 300 movie 
in a comp, Like it's, you know, 

638
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160
it's gory, right? 
You can't just hand this to 

639
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,120
anybody, but it kind of is for 
everybody, to be honest with 

640
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,400
you. 
It is, it doesn't overdo it. 

641
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160
There's nothing like sexually 
illicit or nothing like that. 

642
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,600
It's just it's showing this is a
real battle taking place. 

643
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,480
You know, it's not a 
metaphorical story. 

644
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,720
I believe that David was 
actually who the Bible records 

645
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:32,720
him as a young man in this story
after God's heart. 

646
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,520
And Goliath is 24 digits. 
And we're talking Nephilim here.

647
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,400
We're talking cannibalistic 
monsters. 

648
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,640
He had a war reputation. 
I mean, this is echoing out 

649
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,240
through the land. 
He's tormenting the children of 

650
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,000
God. 
And young David stumbles in and 

651
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,760
he's like, Yo, who is this 
Philistine that is speaking this

652
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,160
way about God's people? 
And you really do pull that 

653
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,600
together through the comic book,
man. 

654
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,040
You know, as I look more and 
more through it and I got to 

655
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,400
spend a little more time 
sitting, sitting with it, but 

656
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,480
just just flipping through and I
spent a couple minutes on each 

657
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,040
page just kind of really trying 
to understand, you know, the 

658
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,240
color's phenomenal, dude. 
I, I don't even know if I would 

659
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:12,640
tell anybody except for like 
podcast testimonials that that 

660
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,360
you just autodidactic like just 
self-taught, man. 

661
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,200
I just learned my way through 
this because it actually looks 

662
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,360
like there's a style to it where
it's simple, like some frames 

663
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,360
are like red, it looks like 
color painted. 

664
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,840
There's different fades, you 
know, tints of the red through, 

665
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520
but then others are like really 
complete, like it's full 

666
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,680
picture. 
It looks really complex and 

667
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,440
beautiful. 
And the way that you break that 

668
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,920
up with these little, like 
windows or screens within the 

669
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,760
comic page itself, it looks 
super professional. 

670
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,480
I'm going to ask you, you know, 
you share the trumpet thing, 

671
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,200
right? 
This horn or whatever's going 

672
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,720
off. 
And this is like the spiritual 

673
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:50,000
thing that happens with you. 
But I need to ask, have you ever

674
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,360
had another supernatural 
encounter that you want to talk 

675
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,040
about? 
Honestly, I would have to say 

676
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,240
the entire thing from beginning 
to end. 

677
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Well, I can't, I'm sorry, can't 
even say end. 

678
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,960
He's been showing me so much 
this entire thing. 

679
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,400
He showed me what it meant to to
go on a walk. 

680
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,640
He showed me Job kept standing 
out. 

681
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,440
Job kept standing out when I was
reading the Bible. 

682
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:24,960
And then I kept hearing I like 
to do a lot of random stuff 

683
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,720
with, with one hour 1 books. 
I've gone through most of them. 

684
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,640
And so I'll just randomly pick 
something. 

685
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,920
I know he's putting something in
my way and he he talks a lot 

686
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:41,440
about what that means. 
What if you dedicate yourself to

687
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,120
God? 
Can God use you 100% use you for

688
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,840
everything for anything, change 
your entire life? 

689
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,680
Can he? 
Obviously the answer is yes, 

690
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,240
because it's for the better 
good. 

691
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,560
You know of the story and you 
know, I, I put this book out. 

692
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,480
I go through all that I go 
through and you know, I don't 

693
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,840
mind admitting this. 
Come and find myself a stay at 

694
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,480
home father. 
Now he emptied my hands 

695
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:17,800
completely to focus on him and 
sharing the story. 

696
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:21,960
So I, I, to answer your 
question, I would have to say 

697
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,480
that's probably the most 
powerful thing is that he's, 

698
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:32,400
he's completely taking care of 
me and my family and putting 

699
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,920
this here to 1000% to learn to 
share, to learn to share. 

700
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,640
The hardest part for me as a kid
was, you know, and I keep 

701
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,880
talking about the way my mind 
works was, you know, 13 years, 

702
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,360
I'm breaking down systems trying
to figure out what's happened 

703
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:53,280
and how to be more efficient. 
I, I eventually found out that 

704
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,680
he gave me discernment. 
Discernment, you know, I'm 

705
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,680
really good at picking things 
apart and figuring out, you 

706
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,800
know, why was there a mispick? 
Why was there a mis ship? 

707
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,320
You know, I can dive, I'm an 
overthinker. 

708
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,960
I can super, super, super dive 
into stuff. 

709
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,840
And when this first started, I 
was like, hey, you know, this is

710
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,840
going to be kind of cool that I 
can use this, this skill that I 

711
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,000
have, you know, still looking at
it like a human was like, let me

712
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,640
use this skill that I, I have to
just kind of, you know, answer 

713
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,120
some things 'cause it was so 
many, you know, as a kid. 

714
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,680
We, you know, we all talk about 
this is how modern Christianity,

715
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,360
they don't talk about the fringe
stuff. 

716
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:39,400
And man, oh man, man, oh man. 
I've been on a 2 year journey 

717
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,400
now of that needs to be focused 
on that needs, we need all the 

718
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,760
details. 
We need all the details. 

719
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,040
We established that the, the 
Five Stones book is, is a little

720
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,240
brutal, It's a little bloody. 
Because it had to be I, it had 

721
00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:01,840
to be, I had to show, I had to 
answer the questions that I 

722
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,840
have. 
You know, why, why I go to 

723
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,720
church and I hear about all this
and this, but then I go to 

724
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:09,480
school and I hear that we were 
Cavemen. 

725
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:16,440
Why is it that the most archaic 
societies that we find have 

726
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:22,000
extremely complex language, you 
know, like what's up here? 

727
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,080
So. 
So yeah. 

728
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,760
So I'm breaking things down and 
then I find out, you know, he 

729
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:37,560
start with David, then you go 
down to his cousin, I mean his 

730
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:46,160
nephew killed Goliath son. 
Then you go on down to first 

731
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,720
Kings 920 and Solomon 
transcripted the remaining 

732
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,400
Canaanites, the Amorites, 
Hittites, parasites, Hivites and

733
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,560
Jebusites to build his cities. 
What isn't Solomon known for 

734
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,240
these these huge buildings and 
these treasured temples. 

735
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,960
Then you go on down to Jeremiah 
5220 and they make reference the

736
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,920
weight of the two enormous 
pillars. 

737
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,880
The the labor of the 12 bulls 
were tremendous. 

738
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,080
They had no way of estimating 
it. 

739
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,920
And then it's parentheses. 
They had been made in the days 

740
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:25,280
of King Solomon. 
So through this journey, he 

741
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,920
showed me the little keys to 
like what was really going down 

742
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:39,040
and and we this is so too deep 
that it, it couldn't be any more

743
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,320
black and white. 
God made everything six days, 

744
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,960
7th day he rested. 
He's still in his resting 

745
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,040
period. 
There was an attack on human 

746
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,200
civilization because God loved 
us so much. 

747
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,520
He gave us this earth and you 
know he gave us this world. 3rd 

748
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,880
of the angels were jealous and 
they've been trying to kill us 

749
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,480
and take over ever since then. 
And this is it's it's still 

750
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,480
happening. 
We know this. 

751
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:16,680
But specifically why is there a 
bull at Wall Street right? 

752
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:24,160
Why back in the day, the two 
most heathenic who heathenistic 

753
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,840
things was sexual morality and 
child sacrifice. 

754
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,960
That was like the thing. 
Well, we still had it's still 

755
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,480
happening, still happening. 
You know what I mean? 

756
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,040
It's it's called abortion now. 
And I'm not going to comment on 

757
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,240
on the the good versus the bad. 
It's not my place. 

758
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,360
I'm just pointing things out. 
And then, hey, man, you got only

759
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,320
fans. 
So all that's still here. 

760
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,400
It's all still happening. 
And again, that's the amazing 

761
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,160
things that he's shown me. 
Reality is not me and you 

762
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,520
sitting here talking right now. 
We're a blip. 

763
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:06,960
If we get 807090 years out of 
it, awesome. 

764
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,960
But that's not it. 
Like even at this point now, 

765
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:16,280
man, like not that I thought 
time travel was a thing, but now

766
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,160
I don't see how it's possible 
because you couldn't go forward,

767
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,720
right? 
Because you know, you, the 

768
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:26,000
rapture is going to come like I 
was going to, you know, we all 

769
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,200
know what's going to happen. 
So if you went forward, how you 

770
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,720
can't make that happen. 
So you couldn't go forward. 

771
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,480
You can only go back. 
That doesn't make sense. 

772
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,920
You can't do one or the other. 
So it's like he showed me we are

773
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,240
right here in the middle of a 
spiritual battle that's been 

774
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:45,800
going on for centuries. 
The same people that have been 

775
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:53,720
doing it are getting behind new 
people and the heavy details in 

776
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:58,080
the Bible have unfortunately 
gotten glossed over many 

777
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,320
different reasons. 
Some of them are because it's 

778
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,040
brutal. 
And, you know, there's a place 

779
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,640
for the the there's a place for 
everything. 

780
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,000
And I don't want to sound, you 
know, disrespectful, but there's

781
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,240
a place for the love part. 
There's a place for the, the 

782
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:22,080
reaching for people stuff. 
You know, you, you got to take 

783
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,760
everything in. 
We talk about Ogg Bashan, right?

784
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,080
Everyone knows about Ogg and 
it's like, what was he a giant 

785
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:38,160
was, you know, Psalms 2212, 
Psalms 2212 and they, they 

786
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,520
reference the giant bulls of 
Bashan. 

787
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,400
It's there. 
So so again, that's what this is

788
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,200
really kind of developed to was,
you know, I've got some some 

789
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,200
awesome stories that I'm, you 
know, I'm a self-publishing 

790
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,920
person, you know, obviously we 
clear, we cover that. 

791
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,280
So, you know, it's not as easy 
for me to just put a book out. 

792
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,080
That's again, why I keep talking
about the blog because it's not 

793
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,960
as labor intensive, but I can 
still get the message out to 

794
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,120
people, you know, and I just the
Super quick reads of just like 

795
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,360
connecting dots and whatnot. 
But yeah, I got a couple other 

796
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,360
stories that I want to do that 
that the we're going to get 

797
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,120
through the holidays. 
And then I've got a a nasty 

798
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:31,360
story on Daniel 3:00 and 4:00 
because just the visual of 

799
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,720
Nebuchadnezzar turn into a man 
beast. 

800
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,520
It just beyond the fact of that 
happened, just the visual of 

801
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,520
that. 
I think it's going to be insane.

802
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,240
So yeah, I'm just letting this 
thing go. 

803
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:49,760
I'm, I'm all day, you know, good
and good out right fundamentals.

804
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,120
So all day I just listen to to 
him. 

805
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,840
I listen to stories of the, you 
know, just let it come in and, 

806
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,360
and just let it change me and 
help me understand and how I can

807
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,480
explain and how I can share 
stuff. 

808
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,120
So yeah, yeah, it's, there's a 
whole lot more on the way, you 

809
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,440
know, fingers crossed. 
And even friend Christian Fringe

810
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,320
Christian podcast like this one 
help a little bit along the way.

811
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,560
Huh. 
Oh my gosh, I can't thank you 

812
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,480
enough. 
I can't thank you enough. 

813
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,360
I'm just a, a guy that got led 
to do something and I, I, I did 

814
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,640
it, I followed directions and 
you know, I've loved every 

815
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,960
second of it. 
You know, even my doubts of is, 

816
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,400
it's just, it's an honor. 
It's so humbling that you know, 

817
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,200
why me? 
Who am I, you know why, why 

818
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,400
choose me? 
But and for you to give me an 

819
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,520
opportunity to, to share this 
is, is just incredible and to, 

820
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,880
to like it. 
I'm going to tell you the, the, 

821
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,720
the best compliments that I've 
been getting were just that it 

822
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:54,440
did it. 
It helps, helps a visual that 

823
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,400
it, it helps somebody. 
I, I sent it to somebody and, 

824
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,920
and it was basically like this 
clears up what it looked like 

825
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,560
for me. 
I've always had, you know, the, 

826
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,640
the cartoon image of what it 
happens and you captured it, 

827
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:12,160
which I cannot believe. 
And and it wasn't me. 

828
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:15,440
It was God, you know, he just, 
I'm just a vessel. 

829
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,120
Everybody has this little kid 
coloring book version of David 

830
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,280
and Goliath and it's gently and 
I don't disagree with that. 

831
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,440
Like I think that the Bible says
raise the child in the way that 

832
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,040
they should go when they grow 
old, they won't depart from it. 

833
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,320
I didn't get raised that way, 
but but God, you know, will save

834
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,360
that for another time, right? 
Like supernaturally drew me in. 

835
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,520
But when you really do plant 
these seeds, you got to be able 

836
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:47,600
to plant them in a way that it's
resonating with the people that 

837
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,440
you're planning them with. 
So when you're you're talking to

838
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,600
five to seven-year olds, you 
know, and they're going to 

839
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,000
Sunday school and they're 
looking at these, you know, big 

840
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,080
bubbly balloon characters of 
David and Goliath and it kind of

841
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,440
looks, you know, cute that 
that's for them. 

842
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,120
But when you start getting, you 
know, late teens and, and young 

843
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,480
adults who are like, and I've, 
I've never had a visual 

844
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,800
reference for what did the 
battle David and Goliath looks 

845
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,360
like. 
So what happens when you have a 

846
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,760
17 year old who's like, loves 
the Marvel stuff, They love DC. 

847
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,800
But you know, we have this gap, 
right? 

848
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,200
And the Bible's very clear when 
you read through David, he's 

849
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,440
sending a stone into the Dome of
his enemy, right? 

850
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,400
It's he's cutting off his head 
with his own sword. 

851
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,480
And then later, I mean, it just 
goes on and on and on, you know,

852
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,400
that this idea of crushing the 
head of the enemy, it's just 

853
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,840
repetitive through the 
prophecies and through how it 

854
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,800
unfolds. 
It doesn't happen one time. 

855
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,760
You know, we just see it over 
and over again. 

856
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:52,800
And I think it's does dis 
justice to plant seeds to the 

857
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,720
young kids with bubbly comet, 
you know, cartoons of David and 

858
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:02,520
Goliath, but not introduce 
respectable material for the the

859
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,480
mature mindset as people get 
older. 

860
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,720
You know, that's why, like 
conversations I have here, I 

861
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,720
tell people I don't believe 
everything I've ever heard on my

862
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,960
podcast. 
I try to highlight what people 

863
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,680
do right, not what people are 
doing wrong, although an open 

864
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,880
rebuke is better than in love, 
right? 

865
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,360
But but I'm learning as I go 
too. 

866
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,160
And I've made mistakes and I 
know that the word of God has 

867
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,560
the final say when I read the 
details, man, second Samuel, you

868
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,960
start going through and David 
almost gets exhausted and killed

869
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,840
by one of these giants who has a
new sword. 

870
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,000
And it's like, what would that 
look like? 

871
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,920
You know, I've seen somebody 
die. 

872
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,760
You know what I mean? 
Like there's plenty of the I 

873
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,040
mean, I was just talking with a 
brother who's who's boots on the

874
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,000
ground right now. 
I'm give Aaron a shout out. 

875
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,960
He he's been on he, he's helps 
behind the scenes with the 

876
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,160
podcast. 
He's down at Hurricane Helene 

877
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,960
right now and the he's like, 
bro, I've seen some gruesome 

878
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,680
stuff, but we're praying. 
There's a faith in the 

879
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,720
atmosphere. 
And so like, reality is life is 

880
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,240
hard. 
Death happens. 

881
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,920
It's not God's plan, but God's 
plan is to move our hearts to 

882
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,920
understand these things. 
And and when we're creating 

883
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,880
content that leads back to get 
people excited about the Bible 

884
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:09,920
again. 
When you go through and you 

885
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,280
start reading the Bible 
yourself, what does it look like

886
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,520
to cut the head off of a a 
gigantic enemy who's 

887
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,840
cannibalistic, who's into blood 
sacrifice, who's into defiling 

888
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,240
all the things that got in the 
land? 

889
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,880
That's not going to be cute. 
We're talking about dismembered 

890
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,120
cut. 
You know, Gary Wayne would say 

891
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,440
cutting off the head. 
I did this episode with him. 

892
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,920
I don't know if he's been on 
like 9 Times Now, but it's just 

893
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,320
maybe six months ago. 
And you know, we're talking 

894
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,280
about removing of the head. 
The importance of that. 

895
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,200
Well, I think we do need a 
graphic for that. 

896
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,400
I think introducing this through
comics, through cartoons, you 

897
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,000
know, and I'm just excited to 
see what kind of wave of 

898
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,520
creativity is going to come out 
of this. 

899
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,080
You know, you worked as a 
corporate manager, dispatcher, 

900
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,520
You know, you have this big 
corporate background, and now 

901
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,000
God has flipped the script on 
you. 

902
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,800
He's got you staying at home, 
focusing on your household #1 

903
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,640
getting your household in order 
#2 your, that's your ministry. 

904
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,960
It's your wife, your 
relationship, your marriage is 

905
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,320
highest honored, right? 
We honor God above everything 

906
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,760
before everything else. 
And then it's our kids and then 

907
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,240
our ministry flows, right? 
And so to see what you, you're 

908
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:19,840
producing, what God is leading 
you to do, how many other men 

909
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,920
that's going to resonate with? 
Well, I'm excited to hear about 

910
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,280
that, you know, and I'm excited 
for future projects. 

911
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,720
You have, I tell people all the 
time, I am a visionary. 

912
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,160
I'm big in ideas, but but I have
100 things going on behind the 

913
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,480
scenes, you know what I mean? 
And I'm like, I would love to do

914
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,480
collaborations. 
I'd love to see this thing blow 

915
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,240
up and you to do, you know, 
different collaborations with 

916
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,560
different people and even 
represents some work that I do 

917
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,920
here someday, you know, I I'm 
expecting some big things for 

918
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,920
you, man. 
So I just want to honor you and 

919
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,400
thank you for sharing this 
journey, for sending me a copy. 

920
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,400
The only thing I would have, I 
would have asked different is 

921
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,960
that you would have signed it. 
But it's all good, man. 

922
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,480
You know, maybe on the next one 
I'll order and you can do a 

923
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,200
custom signature for me. 
And I know what it's like to be 

924
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,160
self published. 
I released my book early this 

925
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,840
year. 
You know, I know what this 

926
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,920
entails, the discipline, how 
thorough you have to be, how, 

927
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,840
how you really have to take it 
before God. 

928
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,520
But then you have to walk it out
and make it happen, man. 

929
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,360
So I'm going to ask you one 
final question as we kind of 

930
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,200
wind down a little bit. 
I want you to share what you 

931
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,560
believe is the most important 
message for the millennial 

932
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,160
generation today. 
Man, that's awesome. 

933
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,800
Again, this entire thing was 
faith. 

934
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,920
That was I feel like that's 
that's what what he wants me to 

935
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:43,200
do with each book is to focus on
something specific. 

936
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:50,320
This one was faith. 
It was, it hit me at the at my, 

937
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,760
at my hardest point, my most 
most down time. 

938
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:01,960
It took everything that I have 
to do it, you know, yeah, 

939
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:07,760
everything I had to sit there 
and talk to my wife and and and 

940
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,240
be humble and be like, hey, I 
got this thing going on. 

941
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,120
Then it's like what? 
Like I got a calling the other 

942
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:25,280
day, you know, Faith, David, I, 
I, again, there's liberties 

943
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,960
taken in the in the in the book 
to focus on specific parts of 

944
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,920
the, the story. 
He showed me what to focus on. 

945
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,400
He showed me how to tell a 
story, showed me the story to 

946
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,920
tell. 
You see, I skipped over the 

947
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,680
armor part with David on 
purpose. 

948
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,600
Not that that's not important, 
because that is an extremely 

949
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,520
important and that has a whole 
nother point behind it and it's 

950
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,520
beautiful part of the story. 
Everybody that hasn't read that 

951
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:04,640
story, if nothing else, believe 
it or not, you got to read David

952
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,440
and Goliath. 
That's in it's incredible story.

953
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:17,080
But anyways, the faith behind 
it, the enemy's not holding 

954
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,440
back. 
The enemy does not care. 

955
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,960
And if the enemy knocks you 
down, this is something I've 

956
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,840
been learning. 
The enemy knocks you down. 

957
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,840
It doesn't matter to the enemy. 
He just keeps on going. 

958
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,760
It's not like God, Adam, they 
don't even care what my name is.

959
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,360
He just keeps on rolling. 
He's wants to get people down. 

960
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,600
So and that's just how dirty 
that that side is. 

961
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:48,920
So you just, you got to, you got
to put forth and I can tell you 

962
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:55,280
100% two years into this, God is
through faith has taken care of 

963
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,000
me. 
He he's taking care of my 

964
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,080
family. 
He that's that's what this is 

965
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,600
about man. 
Believe in him, believe in the, 

966
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,680
the, the, the reality of this 
story. 

967
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,720
Man, when I read that part about
because I wasn't super familiar 

968
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:15,680
and when I read the part about 
Samuel killing agog, not to 

969
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,320
mention I saw the colors you you
mentioned the colors in the 

970
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,800
story. 
A lot of the colors were 

971
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,000
emphasis on points and that's 
awesome. 

972
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,120
You saw that 'cause I'm I was 
died just a punch. 

973
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:32,640
You think about Samuel was like 
God told you to do something, 

974
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,840
you didn't do it, so now I gotta
do it and he did it. 

975
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,760
And that's faith. 
It's just like so and then you 

976
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,400
see the next page is he it's 
just a calm color and he's just 

977
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,720
talking, listening to God. 
Yeah, there was a conversation, 

978
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,840
but I focused it on him 
listening because again, it's 

979
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,000
faith. 
Something happened. 

980
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,680
So he went to God and like, man,
what do I got to do here? 

981
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,960
And, and just like me and just 
like everyone else in in the 

982
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:04,600
world, I can't say enough for 
you, man, for having a voice and

983
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,560
getting this stuff out here. 
If it wasn't for you and people 

984
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:13,240
like you taking your, you know, 
your journey and taking and, and

985
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,320
having the faith that you had to
do what you had to, I wouldn't 

986
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,360
have stumbled upon, and I 
believe this 1000%. 

987
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,280
I wouldn't have stumbled upon 
what I did had I gone down 

988
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,800
y'all's roads. 
I wouldn't have. 

989
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,240
I know that first fact. 
My David and Goliath story would

990
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,600
have been, it would have been 
visually cool, but it wouldn't 

991
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,640
have been what it was. 
And it's because what, you know,

992
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,440
faith, man, what do you put on 
your heart? 

993
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,760
You know, the blurry dudes and 
you know everybody in this, in 

994
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:48,480
this, you know, shout out for 
y'all doing what y'all did 

995
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,600
every, you know, people like me,
people are listening that that 

996
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,520
haven't done what they're about 
to do. 

997
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,640
They're getting it. 
And and and can't thank you 

998
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:04,080
enough for trusting and being 
the vessel man, because again, 

999
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,400
that's when they clicked. 
Was like listening to this 

1000
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:15,000
stuff, putting Gary Wayne, LA 
Marzulli, you know, hearing this

1001
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,680
stuff was like, wow, This is why
I'm doing this and it, and it 

1002
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,480
really sparked a flame. 
So faith, man, faith, faith, 

1003
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,520
God's awesome. 
He's powerful. 

1004
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,160
It's all his, you know, and and 
I, he's incredible. 

1005
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:38,600
That's all I can say, man. 
John 812 I am the light of the 

1006
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,960
world. 
He that followed with me shall 

1007
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,760
not walk in darkness, but shall 
have the light of life. 

1008
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,600
John 1/5 And the light shineth 
in the darkness, and the 

1009
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:58,880
darkness comprehended it not. 
Ephesians 5/8 through 11 For at 

1010
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:05,000
one time you were darkness, but 
now you are light in the Lord 

1011
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:10,400
walk as children of light. 
You know, I'm really hoping that

1012
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,600
this message goes out and stirs 
up the rest of the body who are 

1013
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,680
listening to say, you know what,
maybe I'm going to take that 

1014
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:22,320
step of faith now. 
Never underestimate the power of

1015
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,000
love. 
I'm going to take this step of 

1016
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,200
faith. 
I'm going to do the uncommon. 

1017
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,920
I'm going to be a forerunner for
the voice of God versus this, 

1018
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,280
this world that just seems to 
just grip you up and get you 

1019
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,760
focused on all the temporary 
things that are just doomed to 

1020
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,320
fade away at some point in time.
But when we focus on his word, 

1021
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,920
it never returns void. 
It never fades away. 

1022
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,040
So Adam Ferris, man, your book, 
5 Stones, I'm going to have you 

1023
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,400
send me a link to your blog and 
to where people can get a copy 

1024
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,680
of this and I'll put that into 
details of the show notes. 

1025
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,520
We'll, we'll do a future 
collaboration, you know, 

1026
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,840
sometime next year I'd like to 
have you back and we'll talk 

1027
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,440
about some other projects you're
working on. 

1028
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,040
And Lord willing, there'll be 
some opportunities coming up 

1029
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:12,040
where I'm going to have you 
maybe do some cover stuff or a 

1030
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,440
little bit of screen writing for
some projects we're working on. 

1031
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,480
All in God's timing and 
planning. 

1032
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,800
There's a lot of big things 
happening behind the scenes, but

1033
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,240
not to spoil it, the the bigger 
the network of people who are 

1034
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,600
following Christ that we have 
that we can trust to say passion

1035
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,440
1st and pay later. 
That's kind of where we're at 

1036
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,480
right now. 
It's the army of volunteers, 

1037
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,080
Adam. 
It's been an honor. 

1038
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,240
Oh. 
Man, I appreciate it. 

1039
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,320
I appreciate it so much. 
Thank you very much. 

1040
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,000
Well, that's it, that's the show
you guys. 

1041
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,000
I'm going to ask you to share 
this with friends, family 

1042
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,600
members, Co workers. 
Share this one with your 

1043
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:47,240
teenager or your young adult, 
child, grandchild, whatever that

1044
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,320
may be. 
Get them interested in comics 

1045
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,840
and the Bible coming to you from
Southeastern Pennsylvania. 

1046
01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:09,080
God bless and goodbye. 
I came from the sun, but one of 

1047
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,960
the only straight from the 
heavens. 

1048
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,320
He really owed me all of my 
life. 

1049
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,480
I was beating up all of my life.
Life I didn't handle. 

1050
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,960
All in my life I was stuck in on
track. 

1051
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,200
All in my life I didn't handle. 
I didn't know why my life was so

1052
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,400
wet. 
I didn't know why my life was a 

1053
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,920
rat. 
I didn't know why I couldn't get

1054
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,200
up. 
I was so stuck. 

1055
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,440
And the monkey was stuck till I 
found out. 

1056
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,520
And I broke everything till I 
found out. 

1057
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,040
And they took everything until I
was hurting. 

1058
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,240
My heart was strained. 
Yeah, I was broke. 

1059
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:46,880
And I had all this pain held on 
the to the side in this mode. 

1060
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,200
I had no truth but to look to my
guy. 

1061
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,440
He gave me to me. 
You're open my eyes. 

1062
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,640
He gave me earrings and he told 
me I'm blessed. 

1063
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,320
He told me he just believe in 
this guy. 

1064
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,280
I told him I can't change all of
my ways. 

1065
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,200
He said I got you to look to 
this. 

1066
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,840
I looked at him and he showed me
his ways. 

1067
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,040
Then he just told me how I am 
this time. 

1068
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,320
Then he just told me I'm not in 
this world. 

1069
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,600
He told me I come from the 
heavens above. 

1070
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,120
I'm a new creature. 
I come from the sun, from the 

1071
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,280
one and only straight from the 
heavens. 

1072
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,960
You really owe me. 
I came from the sun I was really

1073
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,480
with them. 
The heavenly places I'm sealing,

1074
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:24,080
y'all can't even go that way. 
Y'all don't even know that way. 

1075
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,680
Y'all want to play like Patty 
Kay, but this ain't no game. 

1076
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,360
But it's that way, right? 
You wipe this on fake when you 

1077
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,400
walk under me and I know you're 
a snake. 

1078
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,840
You think you can beat me but 
you got no power. 

1079
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,680
You all in a way. 
I take out that chopper I'll put

1080
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,440
on your top and I'll frake on 
your face. 

1081
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,040
I see you laughing. 
You think that you got me, but 

1082
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,920
you got no way. 
The evil you said for my life is

1083
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,560
OK 'cause it's made for my good.
My God that created he created 

1084
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,480
you so you really is cooked. 
I said all these things 'cause I

1085
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,480
know what is true and you know 
you is cooked. 

1086
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,520
But like I did Cage, when you're
done winning games you can never

1087
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,920
win. 
I know the things that's gonna 

1088
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,600
happen to you when you die. 
You didn't say living your life 

1089
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,760
'cause you know you can never go
and get you know his great day, 

1090
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,560
his mercy was too from you. 
When you're my son at the plot. 

1091
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,800
Thought you could take on my God
spots now, but you can die hot. 

1092
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,600
You was really tweaking. 
I come from the sun, from the 

1093
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,760
one and only straight from the 
heavens. 

1094
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,200
You really owe me. 
I came from the sun, I was 

1095
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,440
really with them. 
The heavenly places I'm gonna 

1096
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,360
see the living. 
Y'all can't even go that way. 

1097
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,480
Y'all don't even know that way. 
Y'all want to play like Patty 

1098
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,080
Cay but this ain't no game. 
But it's that way.