Hello folks. This is Princess.
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We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
right now is a great benefit in virtue because it's an end
around between this whole corrupt informational system,
media system. We claim to believe in a God who
spoke the universe into existence and literally raised
himself from the dead, and yet we're not going to believe that
anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though his
word tells us that they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
to heaven, so they wander the earth.
You know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues
being spoken. These giants would live way up
in the island. The young Braves, the young men
would hide them in the trees. They wait.
For one of these 12 footers to come.
Walking down the bath and they would jump on them and kill them
and drag them back to the village and the village would
feast on the body. Then people start to get.
Weapons. They start to get armor, They
start to build cities, they start to fortify their cities.
Now God looks down and there's violence everywhere, the battle,
this war that we are at. Is not against each other.
It's against these principalities and these rulers
and these archons In the high places, it's.
Really worthwhile to read the Bible yourself.
Fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control.
Because we have to take every thought captive and resist fear.
You're going to have a testimony that is a justice case against
the Kingdom of Darkness. Welcome back to the Millennial
Mustard Seed Podcast. I am your host Rod, and thank
you for being here with me again.
I have a bombshell episode for you guys.
This is a part one with the one and only Doctor Robert Rodich,
and we have a fascinating conversation.
Let me just tell you that right off the bat.
This is one for the records you guys.
This is part one of many parts. Just a little glimpse to what's
come down the pipeline. We have a lot of territory to
cover. He's a well established author.
He's been a pastor. Had pastored for, I think it was
like 30 years at some point. He's getting ready real soon
here to celebrate his 70th birthday.
He's an interesting man with quite a story to tell and his
research and some of the methods he uses.
I don't know if many people are going to be aware of what Doc
does, but it's fascinating and I have to testify it works.
And this is one of those conversations that just will
keep you coming back for more, because I'm on the edge of my
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shouldn't be too far down the road.
But what you guys have to look forward to on this recording is
enough for the time being. We talk about Frequency, his
testimony. We talk all about the spiritual
realm, sonship of God, the enemy, the good guys.
Aliens. I mean, we dive into like every
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Let's go. Hello, everyone, this is Doctor
Robert Broditch, and we'd like to welcome you to the Millennial
Mustard Seed Podcast. And we're glad you decided to
join us today. So welcome.
Doctor Robert, that was an awesome introduction and I'm
happy to have you here, man. We've had a couple conversations
and I am excited to have you here on this episode with me.
Thank you for being here. Well, thank you, Ron.
I came across you in a very unique way, and I'm glad that
God works all things together for the good and he's mysterious
and how he connects us together. It's it's an interesting
journey, isn't it? Yes, it is.
I kind of want to start at the beginning a little bit here, and
I'd like to ask you just to dive into telling us how you became
Doctor Robert Rodish that you are today.
Wow. Well, now, keep in mind that on
the day that we're we're taping this, if that's the proper term
for a podcast, I'm just a little less than a month away from
having my 70th birthday. So I've been around for a little
while and I go back to where I was saved in the early 1970s and
it would have been the end of the Jesus movement, which this
movie that just came out recently.
Now, I wasn't one of the guys in the movie, but it was so funny
when I saw all those hippie types up there playing their
musical instruments and things like that.
I was one of those guys on the platform at a church after just
getting saved with the long hair and everything, and they asked
us to come in and and do worship songs.
Of course, we didn't know any of the songs that were in the
hymnal or anything like that at that point, which I know I'm all
by heart now. And I can even tell you in some
days what page what the song was, you know, after you've been
around a while. We didn't have any of that in
those days. So, you know, we sang, you know,
all the kind of Jesus tunes that they were was going around.
And so I did get wonderfully and gloriously saved in the early
70s, knew almost immediately that I had some kind of a call
on my life. And what was also interesting,
Rob, is that the gifts of the Holy Spirit started operating
fairly quickly in my life. I just had words of wisdom,
words of knowledge. It was filled with the Holy
Spirit very soon after becoming a believer.
And sorry to some of our evangelical friends who think
you get everything all at one time.
That wasn't my personal experience.
So I just said, well, what do I do?
Well, the Assemblies of God at that time had a wonderful and
probably still do training program that you were, we were
able to do through correspondence.
In those days, there was nothing online at all.
I mean, we were lucky we could afford telephones in some cases
and just landlines, you know, let alone cell phones.
Not even a thought 50 years ago. So I started my training and
then eventually went to the university and and eventually
got a Doctorate of Divinity degree.
But in my ministry with the Assemblies of God, which lasted
for nearly 30 years, I would be an individual that they would
send into, oh, churches that were maybe had either had
trouble or were struggling a little bit.
And they just wanted a foundation laid.
So, you know, I can't sit here. You know, I would be totally
telling them this truth if I said, Oh yeah, we started with
eight people and we ended up with 25,000.
You know how some people are, well, that, you know, no big
fish stories here. You know, we'd go in and there'd
be maybe 20 people, 25 people, and by the time we left, it
would be 100 and 25200 people. And then the growth would take
place afterwards. We check back a couple years
later and you know, they would be running 3 or 400 people,
which for little communities was wonderful.
So that's where I spent the majority of my time between Iowa
and Tennessee. Eventually, you know, I realized
fairly early on that, hey, if I'm going to go into a church
setting where they can't really pay me any money, I need to have
a skill. Well, to show you how things can
happen sometimes, all of a sudden I've developed kind of a
health issue and nobody could solve it and wasn't anything
like super major. They'd all just tell me, hey, go
home, there's nothing we can do about it.
And so as the Lord led, I found a lady chiropractor that said,
listen, you need to go see if you can get into this guy.
His name is Doctor DA Versendal and he teaches a muscle testing
technique called Contact Reflex analysis and if you can get in
he may have some answers for you.
So when I filled out the forms I put my DD down.
Well I think that they thought that I had forgotten an S and
let me in thinking that I was a dentist and so when I got in I
was able he, you know he he I'm introduced myself and and he he
just for some reason he just liked me right away.
So he said now you can stay man don't worry about it.
Well then in the process now I'm kind of going over everything
lickety split here. I mean, there's obviously years
of ministry, tremendous healings, people being saved,
you know, the things that you would expect just from normal
fruit from ministry. But we're kind of getting to
where the focus is today. So Doctor Versendall at this
particular meeting, I believe it was in Dallas, TX back in the
early 90s, said does anybody have any inroads into President
Ronald Reagan? Because I just understand that
he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and I'd really like
to try to help him. So during the break I went up
and I said, well, Doctor Versendall, I said I can't make
any promises. But it just so happens that I
have an uncle that my whole life I've been calling Uncle Moon,
like Sun and Moon. Well, his name, that was his
nickname, Didn't even know till after that that his first name
was Neil. His last name just happened to
be Reagan. So he's Ronald Reagan's brother,
who is my great uncle. So I contacted him and his wife
and unfortunately Ronald Reagan's wife Nancy, who was
into some kind of interesting stuff to say the least, kind of
acted as his gatekeeper and we were never able to get through,
but yet just the opportunity. Doctor Versendal was so
grateful. He paid for my education so that
I got a second doctorate level in Clinical Nutrition.
And so that became a way that I could help my family, you know,
go through the, you know, get clothes and food and things like
that so that I can still pastor at the same time.
And I became actually really, really good at finding
nutritional deficiencies for people and connecting them with
wonderful nutritional protocols that, especially back in the 90s
into the early 2000, work really, really well until they
started spraying all the garbage in the skies and even, you know,
even messing the food up better and things like that.
So in a nutshell, that's how I got at least too close to where
I'm at today. So definitely some highlights
there. It's very interesting journey.
I love the mystery of how God works in and through us to cause
his will to come about. And sometimes we don't always
know exactly where we're going or what's taking place.
But it's definitely important to listen to that still small
voice, right? So, absolutely, yeah.
I want to ask you this real quick before we start diving
deeper into your book and what it is that you do.
Just from how long that you've been serving Christ.
And as much of that you've seen change over all these years,
what's one of the things within Christianity that you've seen
for the positive as a whole, not just like a local church or
local body, but in the Western? Atmosphere here.
What's a positive thing that you've seen maintain true to the
gospel and what are some of the negatives that you know like the
stigmas or or just anything that's kind of has a a negative
overarch with Christianity. Can you just hit maybe one or
two things? Yeah.
When I asked you if you had any questions written down that, you
know, that's a really good one, man.
Yeah. I mean, well, I mean overall and
I don't, I am not a negative person.
In fact, I've kind of squelched negativity, but neither am I
like on the gushy side of positive either.
You know, I'm kind of, you know, you know, it's kind of like,
yeah, I hope I'm balanced and and it's kind of like, you know,
because you really do need to see things for what they are
most of what I've seen in the last because I only can go back.
You know, I'm almost 70 so I was nearly 20 years old when I got
saved. So.
So I've been around for 50 years in in the church, and I would
have to say this, in the early days of things, I think people
were much more caring and not even in people's business, but
just genuinely caring than they are today.
That that would be, that would be one of my observations, being
having a charismatic or what people would call Pentecostal
background from almost day one. Because that's the way the Lord
moved on me. I would say that it was really
exciting in those early days to have people that were left over
from a lot of the great 10 tent revivals and who people who had
seen Branham and a a Allen and how they reached out in so many
ways. And I mean if you had a need
man, I mean they were there. Now, having said that, I know
that there's still individuals within churches today that will
do that because I've heard many wonderful stories, but it
doesn't seem to be churchwide because everybody seems to be
otherwise focused, you know, soccer for their kids, you know,
which, no offense, but I don't even like soccer, but you know,
I'm, I'm a tennis and and American football and baseball
guys. So that's just the way it is.
But you know, it's cool. It has its place and so, So the
positives are still that Jesus has never changed.
His word has ever powerful. One of my big surprises is that
as I begin digging into the original languages, I begin to
discover that in fact the word itself is more powerful than I
could have imagined. So in the English, for instance,
I have to say that in some cases a lot is lost.
Now, it doesn't mean it changed the meaning overall, but on a
scale of like zero to 10, the English maybe throws out a three
or four. In either Aramaic, Greek or
Hebrew, it's like an 8 or a nine and or 10 even in volume.
And so and so we're we're starting to discover things like
that more and more now. Now, I realize you asked me
about the church, but the church is who teaches this stuff.
Exactly. So for instance, I was doing a
word study not long ago and I realized that there was three
different levels of power in relationship to, you know, to
our our intimacy with the Lord. And one of them is Xocea, which
is kind of the authoritative thing.
You know, anybody. I don't care whether your
Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, you have the authority to cast
out a devil in Jesus name. Well, but then there's the
doonamos, depending on how it comes from the word.
You know what we get the word dynamite from?
Well, that comes after the baptism in the holy with the
Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues, which I'm sorry, but
the two do go together because you're not going to be speaking
in heavenly code if you don't have the tongue.
So you know, some people really just need to get over that whole
thing and but it's it's a dynamic for today and and and
the Holy Spirit gets actively involved and that's where
tremendous levels of his presence can flow.
But in the English language, in several verses, it'll say it'll
say power and then it'll say power again.
But they're not the same word. There's a third level of power.
Kratos, I believe it's spelled Kratos.
That's resurrection power. That's the power that raised
Jesus from the dead. And that's the power that we're
supposed to be walking in today. So all three combined.
Well, everybody's teaching the 1st 2:00, but you know, OK,
we're moving on from maybe a 9 Volt battery to 110.
Now we're moving into 440 and it seems like there's not enough
electricians around. Wow, okay.
So that brings with it a whole thing.
So, so those are the things that that I'm noticing in the
interaction between the the church and you know so there's
like positives. At the same time that there are
negatives especially in some of the smaller communities.
I watched some of my family and Facebook.
I'm so excited to see a lot of my nieces and nephews mainly
because of the testimony of my dad who passed away fairly
recently. But he was just a real pillar up
in southeastern Iowa in in the community and he a prayer pillar
especially. So many of them are getting
saved. They're in their their church
and Saturday night they're doing this.
They're running all over. So, So especially in the smaller
communities, wonderful things still happen, are happening or
going to happen. But the one thing that I'm
yearning for is that book of Daniel which is already being
opened, that part where the Lord said seal it up until the end.
It is being opened and I think we need to be able to expand and
stretch in order to walk in that kind of stuff.
And if I'm seeing some struggles today, Rod, it's because people
are trying to hang on to what they're familiar with instead of
letting God expand them more into the presence and image of
his son, which is beyond dynamic.
It becomes electrifying. And but that also takes, that
also takes a level of dedication that many people are just too
busy with life's things to to be able to give.
Oh my gosh. Wow.
I'm excited just in this first. First, couple questions.
I'm excited because your responses are spot on them,
definitely in agreement with what you're saying and it great
observation with what you've seen over the last 50 years
within Christianity. I think you really hit the nail
on the head. You know, there's some basic,
like Level 1 duties that we have, like bearing each other's
burdens and so fulfilling the law, right?
Love being this greatest commandment.
And we do see a lot of like kind of tribe and clickiness within
Christianity and then the word study stuff, man, that is so
important because one thing, Doc, is recently, you know, this
Mandela Effect in the Bible is kind of a topic of conversation
among some people. And I did cover an episode with
a gentleman who wrote a book about it.
And I and I was in disagreement to an extent.
I understood some things were very provocative to say the
least. But with the language, you know,
we say the word, oh, I love these shoes, right?
Oh, I love this new song. It's like we've stolen the
actual essence and the meaning of these words.
So our our local candence, our slang, our language has been
shifted and altered so much and it's more important now than
ever to jump in to the word studies using a septuagin A
concordinates. I mean just really slowing down
and understanding what was said. Well, can I get?
Can I give you an example on that?
Using the word love before you get too far in?
Because then I'll forget, you know, as part of being 70s.
So I understand, yes. But but for instance, OK, the
scripture that tells us that perfect love casts out all fear.
OK, so I mean, there's whole doctrines built around stuff
like that, right? Well, if you look it up in the
original, what it really means is, is that when your love
becomes mature, you will no longer walk in fear, but you'll
be walking. In the glory and in the presence
and the confidence of the Savior.
Now when you take it for what it really says, it gives room in
there. Not because we don't want to be
afraid, ever. That's not you know, you know,
you know. And then perfect love casts out
all fear, You know, that kind of thing.
Well, that's true. But but as we move on, we need
to realize that hey okay, let's say somebody's been saved for 15
years and all the sudden. They face something they've
never faced before. Don't go around beating yourself
just because you didn't behave perfectly.
You know, you don't, you know, I mean, hopefully you didn't do
anything that's going to end you up in jail.
But you understand what I'm saying?
I mean it's it's like sometimes, you know, by the standard that
the perfect church people said maybe you were only 80% in shame
on you because you weren't 95 like the rest of them.
Okay. You see, you see what I'm
saying? So, so there's if you look at it
in the original language, it doesn't change that Perfect love
does cast out all fear. But what it does is it gives
room for growth. And that's the contextual part
of it, that somehow English just doesn't carry a lot of the time.
And and so, you know, that's just to your point.
Yeah. And what's really going on with
this English language. I mean, I been doing some deep
dives into it with the Mandela Effect examples that were
portrayed to me and there's there's something wrong with it.
I haven't quite pinpointed it. I don't want to speak from a
place of like I have resources and and evidence that can hint
towards my conjecture. But you're so spot on and this
is what real students of the Bible will do, because there's
there's no great victory and winning over a bunch of people
to this Mandela Effect idea of the Bible changing that aren't
actually studying and have a personal relationship with
Christ. All you're doing is sweeping up
people from the floor that that don't have a care, right.
They're not hiding the word in their heart.
You know that they might not sin against God right there.
There's no studying to show themselves well approved and
with fear and trembling working out their salvation.
And the people I'm looking for are the people who are really
going, hold on, let's slow down, let's look at this.
Let's make sure we have the big picture here.
So a great example. I mean, yeah, you build on that
point. I couldn't add anything to it,
but I definitely would like to dive deeper into that in the
future. Just word study.
I have some things in mind. The importance of it or just
it's imperative it's yeah. I mean, just let me know, but I
can address the Mandela Effect a little bit.
I don't know if it's too early in the broadcast.
So no, it's it's not too early at all.
I think the reason I brought it up is because just to make a
real quick point and then I'd like you to address the Mandela
Effect from your perspective and show us what what you're seeing,
what's going on here. But a lot of the verses that are
being used are to express this Mandela Effect change or King
James only. And one of the things that was
an offput for me Doc, is when I went to the concordinates and
started to look at root words. I was told, Oh no, you can't do
that. The Mandela Effect is based on
this memory reaction. If one of the verses was like,
judge, not blank, you be judged. And I just remembered saying,
lest you be judged, And then the guns, like that's not anywhere
in the Bible that doesn't exist. It's the Mandela Effect.
The world is ending. Reptilians are taking over
everything, right? And it's like, Oh my gosh, hold
on, slow down. If that's culturally relevant
here in the West. And there's doctrines that have
exploded in within social media and there's, you know, relevant
teachings that people get that stuff seeded into the
subconscious. And let's just be honest, most
of us aren't diving into the word for ourselves.
A lot of the past history, at least in my short time walking
within, quote UN quote Christianity or just following
after the Lord and being aware of all these little tribes of
Christian denominations, it's really easy just to get caught
up into one man standing in front of the room, you know,
here, take my parable, take what I'm saying, you might read a
couple verses in that congregation and then move on.
But there's something terribly wrong with that.
So I'm I'm very interested to hear what your perspective is on
this. Well, I mean, first of all, I'm
not saying there's not a Mandela Effect because I remember the
whole lion and the lamb thing versus the wolf and the lamb and
it's like okay. So I even went upstairs, and
this has been several years ago, because I had a Bible that I
hadn't opened in probably 30 years and.
And I thought, okay, now how did that get changed in there?
Even though it's been sitting here for 30 years, So, you know,
so that's an interesting phenomenon, just like the Flat
Earth thing, Okay, you know, and I won't even go into that.
I don't really care if the if we're sitting on a pinhead
somewhere, we're still doing what we're doing.
You know it's so, but the whole, the whole thing is what the
enemies camp is doing is trying to keep us dumbed down now.
You say, well how does that relate to the the the Mandela
Effect? Well, because some people and
not a law, but some people will just, you know, throw themselves
into it and you know, trying to become, you know, so prove that
the earth is flat and you know, prove that you know the Mandela
effect is out there and and we all know what it's talking about
that, you know, first he was dead and now he's not and that,
you know, it's this word and then now it says this.
But think about it if somehow in that process.
We can be kept from understanding what true sonship
is and how closely created because of the second atom that
we are to the Son of God and Son of man because of the new birth
from above. If they can keep us from
operating in what the Bible really says about what that
process is to where we walk into fullness of sonship.
Then they're not going to have anybody that's really going to
be any threat to what they're doing.
Wow. Yeah, OK, who am I Speaking of?
Well, hopefully your cast go all over the place.
But they're going to be listened to probably by government
officials, by people that are Satanists and all over.
And it's like, OK, here's my word to you all, we're not all
stupid out here. I've been known for almost my
full 50 years as a believer that you're out there, you're trying
to control things. But guess what?
God is unveiling the sons of God.
We are going to be operating at levels of authority and power
and energy and frequencies that you've never seen before.
Does it matter how much you get a I involved?
You've never seen this before? We're rising up in the power and
image of the Son of God, and just because you've maybe
figured out a way to tweak the time continuum a little bit, you
haven't seen anything about what's getting ready to come.
It's like Bobby Boucher, played by Adam Sandler, he said.
I'm getting ready to open up a can of blank blank on.
OK. Wow.
And and so, and So what the enemies camp wants us to do,
using the Bobby Boucher analogy, is to even if we soup up our
lawnmower, they still want us riding around on a lawnmower and
not a vehicle. OK, so, So that's what most of
these things are. They're distractions, yeah.
Okay. Then somebody else will come up
and say, well, the words really wrong in so many areas.
No, it's not wrong. It's been dumbed down.
Can we be adults and realize that when I go into certain
circles, which is dangerous for them, not for me, I'll have
people come up to me and say brother.
Why don't you use the same Bible that Paul used?
Oh, what is that, The 16 and 11 King James.
Yes, Sir. That's the one that Paul used.
I said. But it was written in 1611 and
Paul was around in the 1st century.
Well, you know what I mean. Well, OK, well, none of them are
as accurate as they should be because again, we lose the
meanings. We lose.
Let me give let me give you a a a real quick illustration.
Because we don't want to get down too many rabbit holes here,
but my grandmother and grandfather and my dad's side
were what most people would recognize from the former
Yugoslavia. Although when they came to the
United States in the early nine 1900s, it was actually part.
The part they came from, even though they were Serbian people,
came from a part of what is now modern day Croatia.
But it was part of the Austrohungarian Empire and when
I was around and I spent a lot of time with them.
And when we would myself or my cousin, who is real close to my
age, we'd do something silly. She'd she'd go around and she'd
make this statement. She'd say Tolda, Tolda Banista.
Well, I always took that to me and you guys are just being
crazy. Why are you acting crazy?
Well, finally, several years after she passed, I'm sitting
around talking with my my Aunt Zona and I said Aunt Zona, what
was this term? That grandma used to use when
she said we're acting silly and crazy and and and I told her
what it was and because I said I've been studying the the
Serbocroatian language and I can't find it anywhere, she
said, Oh well, in the village they were from there was a man
who would be considered slow or partially retarded and he would
just do silly things and his name was Tode Bennister.
And so here my whole life I thought that saying you're crazy
in the head, which actually in that language is Lou de Glava
crazy head. And so when I when I found that
out, I said where did this come from?
Well, my whole life I'm thinking that crazy in the head is told
the benest and it was a guy's name.
So. So there's a lot of that kind of
stuff that we miss because. We weren't walking those roads.
We didn't understand the customs.
But let me tell you something. They also knew back in the times
of Christ, they also knew the Book of Enoch very well.
They knew about the pantheon of gods and what they were really
doing instead of what our scientists today say they did.
And so, so there's a, you know, if we want to open up a whole
can of worms, we can just go on and on and on and on.
But the bottom line is, is that most of those things?
Even if they have validity. So I'm not going to really
comment on that part much. One way or another are all
distractions. Because if we come up and
realize who we are as sons and daughters of the living king,
and we start doing the inner work that it takes to get the
filters and static out of the way in, the Lord of Glory comes
in and starts flowing through us, it's going to shake the
world up. Exactly.
Wow, that is powerful. And hey, we overcome by the
blood of the Lamb and our testimony.
So if we're focused on anything else other than our testimony,
what God is doing in our lives, how he's working it out, how
we've repented, we're being sanctified, We're coming to the
throne of grace boldly in time of need.
If if our focus is not on that, we're we're subtracted out with
all these other conspiracies and ideas.
And there's a time and a place to talk about this stuff.
I mean obviously here on this show, wide spectrum of different
things that that I've covered over the last couple years,
which is important. But always this is one of the
things I'm always trying to take this point where it's like I
want to express God's glory, his magnificence, who he is.
Not that I have the greatest revelation of that, but but I
have that tugging, that feeling on the inside.
He's so much bigger and so much more powerful than any of us
could imagine. And like LA Marzouli would say,
this is a cosmic chess match and we can't get stuck in our own
little bubble all the time. So great answers there, Doc.
That's phenomenal. Well, hey, I got to be honest
with you. Nobody loves Ancient Aliens more
than me and UFO stories. I mean, I was no, I go back to
the days when Neville Brand was in some show in the 50s where
you could see the little spaceships on a string and.
You know the vampire movies where where you can see the
strings on the bats as they were attacking people, you know?
So I go way back with that stuff but I just happen to know who
they are and where they really come from.
Well and this is what's interesting is, is I did a round
table discussion not too long ago with like Nate from Mufant.
He's the president of preventative Measures, I believe
from Mufant with in Canada And there Chuck from fire theft
radio, couple other guys, Enoch, we get together and we're having
this discussion and it's like just the simplicity of what the
word says, right. So this is where, you know, I'll
ask my next question to follow up as soon as I'm done here on
angels in the Bible. Right.
We have malach in the Hebrew and anglos in the Greek.
And the word says that angels are they not all ministering
spirits who minister to those who inherit eternity.
There's fallen angels and there's angels that did not
fall. And Angel is a job title.
It's not a description. And this is where it's like if
the church, if we were on the cutting edge, right?
Like this is just an introductory reintroductory into
this topic that I've been pushing for quite some time.
Read your Bibles, you guys. Let's look at definitions.
Let's get in tune with what the Spirit wants to equip us with so
that we're able to withstand. We can do all we can to stand in
these days to come. And our sonship, our positions
in the Eclaisia are going to very interesting, I must say.
But let me ask you this, Doc. Let's talk a little bit about
that Angel and alien thing, right.
Because aliens, a newer coin term to represent either an
interdimensional or extraterrestrial biological,
right. So let me hear you talk a little
bit about this. Let's talk a little bit about
angels and aliens here for a minute.
So in the area, 50 ones in these different places and you know
they recruit. People that are way above
average intelligence to do specific things for the
government or whoever it really is that does all that stuff.
I mean, I don't really care one way or another about that part
of it. But there's one thing that
they're told that I find to be just fascinating.
They they'll say something like you can talk to these whether
they're Tall Grays, short Grays, medium Grays, tall Nordics.
Other kind of Nordics, I mean, you know, whatever, they all are
reptiles. I don't care if they're real
beings that these people are seeing.
They're obviously seeing something.
They probably could go up if they would be allowed, they
could touch that and it would have some kind of physicality.
But you can talk to them about Buddha.
You can talk to them about Confucius, you can talk to them
about Muhammad. You can talk to them about
boxing and soccer, but you can't mention the name of Jesus.
Now why is that exactly? Okay, that should throw up a red
flag for anybody that's got any reasoning abilities left.
If there's only one name that you can't mention, that's a
problem. And it's a problem for them
because they're illegals. Most of those created beings are
were were. Experiments in Science project
by the Enemies camp. Even if man is only here 6000
years, did the enemy fall 6001 years ago?
It could have been in Earth type years 20 billion years ago for
all we know. We don't know when that was.
So he's been out doing nefarious things for a long time.
And you say, well why didn't the God of creation stop him?
Well, because God had a plan. He designed everything and
completed it to a certain level because in part of that design
he wanted a family group that would be made in his image who
would go around and complete that design throughout all the
verses, multiverses, realms, dimensions, whatever.
Did he plan on the enemy and his camp falling?
I'm sure that he saw it coming because he sees the the end from
the beginning and the beginning and the end, but I'm sure that
he would rather that it didn't happen.
But part of what mankind is supposed to do is undo, not just
on earth but everywhere, all the damage and chaos that Satan and
his group brought into created order.
We are the ones true humans. 100% Humans are the ones that
have a target on their back because we have the ability rod
to carry the full image of the Son of Man in us.
We are designed that way. Now the the the Adam's original
creation was made with a corrupted seed or he wouldn't
have been able to fall. But when Jesus rose from the
dead, he became the pure incorruptible seed.
And it is according to that image that the new birth, the
birth from above of water and spirit has been enabled.
Which means that if we will walk in the fullness of that Jesus
himself. Actually, the best way I could
say is takes a layer of himself, brings his throne with him, and
sets it up right smack dab in the middle of our soul, in full
glory and authority. And if we'll do the work like
you said, working out the salvation with fear and
trembling, that's not to stay saved.
That's so that we walk into full sonship because we got to get
rid of the filters and static once.
Once we enable that process, then with his fullness he is
able to begin and thank God it's gradually.
But to to move glory through our soul, Well, through our spirit,
then our soul and then through our body.
To change everything, to create photon shifts, to do all kinds
of things. And just to show you the level
of power, we're all familiar with the the, the biblical
happening that we call a story of Joshua and the children of
Israel marching around the walls of Jericho.
We know that they did it once each day for six days and then
seven times on the 7th day. And then the priest flew the
trump and the walls fell down. Well, I was talking to the Lord
about that one day, and I'm sorry if I offend some people,
that he actually answers me. And because I've learned to hear
his inner voice very clearly, I can actually personally tell the
difference between the voice of the Father, the Son and the Holy
Spirit. So you know, if people are
unhappy with that, I'm really, really sorry.
But I can't. So I'm talking to the father and
he said, son, I said, yes, Sir. He said, do you think when they
blew the trumpets that and sound of the shofars or whatever they
were, that the walls just fell flat down?
I said, well, that's kind of what the story indicates.
He said, well, let me tell you something.
He said it and he said this kind of a little tongue in cheek, but
it's there's great truth in it. He said, Can you imagine having
several million Jewish people being completely quiet, marching
around the whole city? And I said, okay.
Well then I realized he was referring to the fact that a lot
of the Jewish folks like to talk.
Well, a lot of people do, but I think that was the illusion, so
I kind of got a little chuckle out of that, he said.
But let me tell you what was really going on.
He said their level of obedience was so great that frequencies by
my spirit were going into the ground.
And then when those trumpets blew, it set up a massive phone
photon shift and caused an earthquake through through
resonant frequency, he said. Had they not been obedient to
walk around and impart those frequencies in the ground, sure,
I could have done an earthquake, but I I involved them.
I let them be part of the process.
Now how cool is that? Yeah, that's that's amazing.
So, so, so where do the aliens come from?
I do. I do believe that that that
there are. Personally, this is my personal
belief based on the research that I've done.
I do believe that most of the physicalities of what we see are
individuals that are hybrids of some sort with the express
purpose of replacing humanity, because we're the ones that can
bear God's image and they can't. Yeah, I I would say I'm on that
same track. You know, there there's the term
meat suits I've heard. But obviously we we're dealing
with spiritual entities and the frequency and vibration
conversation, man, that is, yeah, we we have, we have quite
some time over the next couple appearances where I definitely
want to deep dive into that. But let let me just fire my next
question here, Okay. All right.
So I want actually I want to get into your book a little bit.
You know this voice analysis, voice print technology, and it's
this valuable tool for assessing the human experience on multiple
different levels. It's amazing.
Give us an overview about your
book. Let's dive into the voice
analysis, technology, what you're doing with the health and
even the spiritual assessments there.
Let's get familiarized with that Okay.
So if we kind of pick up on, you know, the the little story about
myself earlier, one of the what I did is I became proficient in
a technique called contact reflex analysis, which in most
cases is used by chiropractors. And they match the nutrition up
with what they find when they're testing people through a they
use we use the Meridian system of the body, not just applied
kinesiology, which is similar but different.
We use the meridians and if there's a hot spot in a
particular area, we're able to trace back through the systems
and see you know, somebody complaints, let's say their calf
is hurting and we trace through the systems of the body and we
find out that they've got a stone caught in their bile duct
of their liver. And so you know we can trace
through all that kind of stuff and but that's somebody being in
front of me. So I got I've been doing about
10 years and and I and I believe it had reached a quite a level
of proficiency because unlike the chiropractors that are still
focusing on building their particular practices which they
should do with adjustments and different you know physiotherapy
or whatever that they do they do All I had was the nutritional
part. So one of my sons and I, we went
to just health food store after health food store and we test
and we took notes and we rated different products and how they
would work against this problem and that problem, this problem.
So I got even better and more knowledgeable than the majority
of the people that would know this technique.
Not everyone, but probably 8090% just because I was doing the
nutritional part. So I went to a conference that
was put on by Doctor Versenal in Atlanta some years ago and this
lady comes up to me and just out of the blue and she looks at me
and because Doctor Versenthal had asked me to open the the
session and because in those days they used VCR tapes.
Remember the good old VCR tapes? Yes, I do okay.
And so she comes up at our first break and she said, you know,
you can hear people's voices and then you can be tested in their
place. I said, oh, really?
I said, I'm going to test that out.
Well, a few weeks later, the church group had got about 50
people together that all wanted evaluations, and I had their
names and phone numbers. So I thought, well, what would
it hurt me? Because I have my sheets printed
out, if I just print 50 more and I call each one of them, maybe
find out a little bit about what they're wanting to work on.
And I got a hold of all 50. Did the tests before I went,
left them at home, went there, did them all brought their
paperwork back and compared them and they were literally 100% the
same and and so I knew then at that point that it worked.
What I didn't know and I'll get into the sonship thing because
you'll see how it kind of fits into the storyline here in a
minute is when you have that voice print it can also tell you
other information So it's not completely unlike maybe taking a
lie detector test with one big difference.
There are those that can fool maybe the the person that's
administering the lie detector test, if they're really well
trained. With this, it doesn't matter if
you change your voice, you speak high, you speak low.
As long as you don't use one of those voice changing modulators,
I can, it's not going to do anything to change the way the
test is going to come out. The test has nothing to do with
whether I like the person or not, whether I think they have
this or that. It's pure frequency science,
Okay. And I think we've all matured
enough now that compared to the, you know, the 90s when
everything was called New Age, that we don't need to call that
New age anymore because science has grown up a little bit.
And it's kind of funny to me too because a lot of the folks
that'll name something New Age, I've gotten to the point now
where I say, OK, so you're a New Age expert.
Let me tell what are your credentials in the new age?
Well, I just know that, you know, if it's something we can't
see, it's got to be New Age. I said so, OK, I I see where
you're coming from next. So I mean, sorry, I just don't
have time for that that anymore. You know, I've, I've been
through all of that and and I don't have to explain this to
anybody that way. OK so so it turns out that so
I'm doing the nutritional things well about four years ago, which
would have been 2019, my wife and I were it was February and
her middle son who worked for one of the subsidiaries of
Verizon Wireless just got a promotion to where he was going
to become part over owner of a franchise in the Indianapolis IN
area. And they moved, they only lived
three houses down from us. And so he, he left very quickly
and went up there. And then his family followed in
May and we were sitting around then and we looked at each
other. We're sitting on our front porch
and the weather was finally getting nice up in Louisville
and said we don't have any reason to stay here anymore.
Where should we move? So we chose the Gulf Shores of
Alabama because we figured that if we got a place down here that
everybody would come see us. And that has turned out to be
true. So then we moved down here in
the end of July of 2019 and of course, you know, I'm already
well into my 60s and I'm thinking, oh man, there's so
many cool golf courses around. And and Brother John
Kilpatrick's got a church up in Daphne, AL, which is like, you
know, 18 miles from where we live, takes 30 minutes to get
there because it's kind of country, roadish type, that
stuff. But he's the guy that was the
head pastor of the Pensacola revival in the 90s, for those
people who remember that. And so I thought, man, life's
going to be good. Play golf, mow my lawn, Maybe a
family members need a little bit of help.
Well, one of the first Sundays we get there, they're having one
of those old timey services that I just love, where the glory is
just everywhere and the power of God is everywhere.
And so he starts praying for people and my wife says, hey,
you've never had brother John pray for you, see if, see if he
won't come up to you. Well, there's people just
mobbing him and I thought, yeah, right, I'm going to have any
chance of getting close. He walks right up to me.
Now, I'm not a small guy, I'm. I weigh about £180, but I'm a
little over 6 feet tall, so he's about the same size, but he's a
big guy and he's got a way bigger hand than I do.
He puts his mint right on top of my head and it was like he was
palm on a basketball or something, but it was so loud he
pulls my ear up to his mouth. Basically it's his brother.
You, you are following the will of the Lord.
It was God that told you to move down to this area.
But here's what he's also saying to you.
You thought you were going to retire, The Lord says.
You're going to be busier now and have more revelation and
more insight into things than you've ever had in your entire
life. All in this season.
And then, thankfully, I was close to some chairs because I
don't usually get slain in the Spirit.
And if people don't know what that term means, it means you
fall down because the power of God's so heavy you can't stand
up. So I just kind of politely sat
down because usually I don't get slain in the spirit and I'm
contemplating it and then I make my way back to and because I got
to tell this whole story because it's really hilarious, you know.
So I'm thinking, oh man, am I ever going to go down, you know,
I mean, because. But I felt the power.
It was like different. It was like this heavy Kebode
type thing. But I didn't go down.
So my wife and I we make our way out to the car and we decide to
eat lunch a little bit down the road and so it had a gravel
driveway and and so I dropped her off at the door and I pull
over and find a parking spot and I get out and I collapse face
down into the ground onto the gravel.
The power of God hit me and I laid there for about 5 minutes
until I could finally get myself back up.
There wasn't anything wrong with me.
My heart didn't stop. The power of God decides to hit
me in a parking lot and put me flat on my face just to show me
who he really was. And I said okay Lord, I get the
message. I see what you're saying.
Yes, I'm going to answer this. So.
So that's the story of how all of the sudden I said okay, So
what do we do? Well, the next step was, is that
my wife who is got a way, way better way with words than I
ever will. And she's a tremendous writer as
well. And she had said something on
Facebook and got banned and she wanted to sell something.
She said, can I open up a Facebook account for you?
Because I need to sell this. I said yeah, okay.
Well, when she got unbanned, she turns the thing back over to me
because it was in my name and I thought, well, I'll just start
reaching out to some Christian people that I know here or
there. Well, to make a very Long story
short, after a few months, a lot of the folks started asking me,
hey, do you still do the alternative medicine,
nutritional thing? You know, whatever you call.
And I said, sure, yeah, I can test you.
Well, then a little more time goes by and I'm testing a few
people here, a few people there. And they said, well, listen,
since the voice works for our nutrition, could you come up
with some kind of a sheet that tells us how we're doing with
our walk as we're engaging heaven?
OK. So I said, well, I'll see.
And sure enough the Lord gave me.
So that's the one. That one I did for you is called
the spiritual assessment because because the the nutritional one
is as detailed as what most functional medicine doctors are
going to do, even after hundreds and hundreds of dollars of
tests. But it's all your body's energy
giving me the the really true baseline, even better than many
of the tests that exist today. But with the spiritual
assessment rod, as as you might recall, we can actually measure
on a scale of zero to 10, with 10 being the best.
How you how your engagement with the Lord is going, are you
engaging well? Is your relationship well?
How good is your body and soul in your spirit getting along?
And if there's filters and static, it's going to show up in
the numbers. Make sense?
Yeah, absolutely. Okay.
So then we go through all kinds of other things.
So then because I'm testing more and more people and I'm getting
pretty busy at this time and people are tickled because they
know, hey, wait a minute, I need to spend a little bit more time
in the river of life, the fire and the glories kind of dipped a
little low. Let me see if I can do an
engagement. So you know, they're using this
in a proper way, not for us to compare against each other, but
just so that they know when they have their special times with
the Lord that they know where to go.
So let's focus on the weak things and bring the whole, the
whole thing up to a higher level.
So I'm sitting out on my back screened in porch went and I
said, Lord, I said, you know, you and I both know things have
changed since the 90s and early 2000s and people are better when
they're on the nutrition and most of them do pretty good.
But just seems like there's stuff running in the background
that I never used to know about. Now, maybe as our conversations,
you don't get a little bit more in depth and one or two down the
road or whatever, but one of the tests that I do is I can
actually test and see if somebody, if they see better or
if they know better in how they relate with the Lord.
So some people just see things in the spirit realm.
I'm not one of those. I'm more of a knower.
So it's kind of humorous that being a knower, I'm sitting out
and I'm just saying, you know, Lord, I'm just, you know, I'm
just going to hear, just to talk to you, you know, And if you can
tell me anything, I'd like to kind of know what's going on.
Well, instead of talking to me that way, right in front of me
is a six foot tall, roughly my size, flaming outline of a
person and I go, okay, What is that?
He said, that's your soul. I said, well, what do you have
to tell me about the soul? He said, well, first of all, the
soul doesn't function and hardly do anything the way that I
designed it. And I'm going to reveal to you
over time what that is. And we're still working on that,
but we've gotten a long way. But then he said there's nine
main points on your body that if you've had a very deep trauma
that actually crosses the line and it's not just a
disappointment, it's a real trauma.
This energy is going to hide behind one of nine points on the
body. And I wanted you to see that
that energy attaches itself to this.
This is what your soul looks like.
So he gave me those nine points and I can now find if there's
any trapped energies. And to me they look like they're
about the size of a tennis ball behind either the thyroid, the
heart, the stomach, the liver, the large intestines, the right
so as which is down by your appendix, roughly speaking the
lungs, the kidneys and the spleen.
And then he gave me away, using the illustration of the the
children of Israel going around the walls of Jericho on how to
use angelic help to get rid of those.
So I'm going, OK, that's really cool.
Well, then I started getting connected with several groups
that do deliverance and inner healing.
And and you know, because obviously it makes sense that
over time the circle gets a little bit wider and wider
because you're running into more people and hopefully if people
are satisfied, they're going to tell their friends.
And it takes time, but it builds.
Well, the people started asking me, okay, you can do nutritional
stuff with person specific accuracy.
You can do that spiritual assessment.
You can find out if there's trapped energy in the soul.
Well, what about other things? I said what do you mean?
Well, when we do Deliverance, we need to know things like is
there a bad timeline attached to somebody?
It is part of their being fractured or split in any way.
Are there regions of captivity? Are there soul ties?
On and on this thing goes hidden nuptials, which is like a
marriage contract, say to make the Masonic order or slavery for
some of our folks that were either indentured servants or
slaves at some point. And on and on it goes.
Well sure enough I found out I could test for all of that.
So I've got this group of people and I'm hearing common
discussions across the board because and I don't really want
to mention any names, but there's a lot of really
wonderful ministries out there that are writing great helpful
books and workbooks for people. So you know, you know, I I
highly, I could highly recommend, but I'm I'm not going
to mention any names because when you start doing that, then
you're going to leave somebody who's really good out and then
they get mad at you, you know, so you know how that goes.
So, so when I look across the scope of YouTube and and the
what's it Patreon and you know all the different ones and all
these different people that are ministering and you know what's
available on Amazon Kindle and all this.
One thing I didn't really see was a book that and and I'm
saying this tongue in cheek so if somebody's just tuning in
this is I'm going to just set you up.
This is kind of a joke about what I'm going to say here in a
minute. But basically I saw that there
was a need for a book that would be kind of like Sonship for
Dummies, of which I included myself into that Okay.
So I started seeking the Lord because again, a lot of my
clients were saying, well, you know, I'm doing good here, but
I'm a little light here. I realized, Rod, that a lot of
people, especially if they were they, they just had, were so
hungry for God and they were coming out of the Baptist
movement or the Methodist movement or Lutherans.
They didn't have anywhere to go to give them the verbiage and
the anchors to even understand what we were doing.
Because, you know, they're hearing people like us go, okay,
did you land your scroll and did you do this and did you do that?
And it's like a different language to them.
So I wrote the book Moving Towards Sonship, which by the
way is available not on Kindle but just like Amazon.
When you order like a car tire or something like that, you can
you can write in Moving Towards Sonship by Doctor Robert Rodich
and it'll come up. I think it's 25 bucks or
something, but it's got a nice workbook in the back too.
So. But anyway, so the the Lord just
started giving me these downloads.
And finally one day I got them all out and I said, well, what
am I going to do with these? And when I laid them together,
they were like a manuscript. So I submitted them to a good
friend of mine, Doctor Ron Horner.
And he said, Oh my gosh, man, this is a book.
You just need to sit down and put it together.
So I did, and that became the book moving towards Sonship.
So that is literally the entire story of how a guy that was a
pastor for over 30 years with the Assemblies of God and if you
know about the assemblies, even a regional presbyter and who
needed a way to make a living, who moved into Wellness to help
people out, who for some reason weren't being healed, which it
did help him out. And then the Lord said that same
technique that you learn can do all this other stuff.
And then now, understanding all of those principles, he's really
cracking the nut of Daniel open to us.
So we're understanding how the great inner workings of
relationship work, so that the level of power that is going to
be released on planet Earth is just going to be beyond belief,
even though we all think the Rapture might happen day after
tomorrow. I am occupying right.
We're called to occupy Exactly. And what you're sharing is.
Very important. And for the audience, it will
make sense as time goes on. So let me follow up with a
couple questions here. Okay.
So I'd like to start with this one.
What is one of the most common things that you find among all
of your work with people using this voice analytic technology?
Is there kind of like a standard across the board?
Issue that shows up, are you talking about if I did say
something on the nutritional test because there's like you
know, tons and tons of things that I cover, you know, is there
maybe 1 commonality that maybe 70% of the people need to work
on their adrenal function or something like that, is that?
What exactly? And let me frame it like this,
right? So even in the beginning of this
episode, we talked a little bit about.
The stuff that's being sprayed in the air in the foods, right,
We know that these things are taking place and also for like
the spiritual end of things. So what I've been developing and
just kind of looking at, being inspired by many others and I
won't name drop but I've been talking about this more recent
than not, is what I'm considering to be a phase one
level 1 satanic ritual abuse and I believe through just the
broadband of frequency of the technology of this day and age.
The subliminal contacting, right, Like as in the flashing
billboards, we have the music, we have the commercials, we have
the frequencies and vibrations going out of all of these
different, you know, megasystems all the way down to the little
tiny computer in your pocket. And I am believing more and more
that people are subjected to this, what I'm considering to be
a level 1 satanic ritual abuse. Now there's many levels.
It goes deeper. I've had some people on the show
and I've talked off air with many people about some very deep
and particular dark things that happen within that realm.
But I believe we're all subject to this in this world of
technology. So when it comes to like the
nutritional aspect and maybe even the spiritual, if you're
comfortable with just kind of giving, well, these are some
common things that show up. It can help me and the audience
even connect some puzzle pieces like, Oh well, 5G.
I mean, we did a symposium doc. A few months back with a bunch
of researchers and we were reading just the list of things
that are medically determined from these from frequencies of
industrial equipment all the way down to cell phones, what can
transpire to people that are sensitive to electromagnetic
frequency. And it's like 99 problems.
Well, Oh my gosh, one. And you only want to do 2 more
shows. Probably be more than that.
Well, OK. So listen, I mean, you know so
many things just fired off on my brain.
I hope if I can remember two or three of them that will be doing
good. First of all, you're exactly
right. There are all kinds of things
and if you want to call it level one that's that's that's fine
that we're just facing on the everyday, OK.
So everything that we're around, Wi-Fi, 4G5G, radio signals, I
mean who says that they can't do something with AM signals if
they wanted to or FM signals, those those have been going
through us our whole lives. The content that is in the TV
shows that that we don't know if there's some kind of we used to
call it back masking, you know in the old days, you know, you
know with the The Beatles record going backwards.
Turn me on, dead man. You know, when it was, you know,
that kind of thing, you know, then we found out that the movie
theater, they were flashing drink Coke and then half the
audience gets up. And I wasn't one of those.
So apparently my mind didn't work that fast or something.
But. And then everybody gets up and
they go drink Coke. So yeah, I mean we've been
subject to this for a long, long time.
But again, let's keep it in focus to the point of why are
they doing it? Because true human beings were
made in the image of God, can be born again in the image of God.
Which, by the way, that's why Jesus is the only way.
This transaction and this transition that needs to take
place from the old nature to the new cannot be activated through
any other religious system, even Christianity.
If it if you're not born again, then it's just words.
So they're after us. So how do they dumbest down with
frequencies, getting us to be sick all the time?
But more than that, they try to throw our soul out of balance so
that there can't be the free flow of God's glory in this fire
from our spirit through our soul and then released through both
our words and even through the very cells as they resonate out
into the world around us. It's not a conspiracy theory to
say that. Why is high fructose corn syrup
and everything for Pete's sake? You know, I thought I was
cheating when I was eating sugar cubes as a kid, you know?
Well, that's that was real sugar.
You know, I mean everything, even health foods.
But here's, here's why. Even the the whole food thing
and and the stuff that you were referring to is so important.
A lot of people don't know this. This is pretty basic in in the
the nutritional field. When you take a supplement it
gets digested and assuming you have a strong enough digestive
ability and then it moves into the large intestine, eventually
small intestine first. Whatever's in there, and your
food for that matter, steak, chicken, broccoli, doesn't
matter, breaks down. When it breaks down to the level
that it can actually tell your cells what to do, it breaks down
to a frequency, OK, so you've got all these cells waiting to
be told, do this, do that, respond this way, do it this
way. So what happens if you're used
to eating, say, corn in the 1940s and you like, you know,
because being from Iowa originally, you know, the the
the corn state, OK, well, it didn't bother people much.
People used to enjoy it. Couldn't wait for August to roll
around. Just put some salt and butter on
that sweet corn. Oh man, I can taste it right now
just talking about it. But the problem is, is they
started genetically modifying everything.
Well, when you genetically modify it and you throw bee
venom in there just to maybe make it more resistant to a
certain bug, when it breaks down, it doesn't break down into
a frequency to help the body heal or respond better.
Sometimes it's actually a bad frequency.
And so we're facing that on every level.
But it's again, it's because they're trying to change our
image now. We're all aware of everything
that's gone on the world Healthwise the last two or three
years. There is a reason why this took
place in the 1st place, because there is a group of individuals
whose plan is to push Satan's end game as quickly as possible,
which if I was Satan knowing that I was already defeated, I
would try to put it off as long as possible.
But you know, that's what pride and arrogance does.
You think you're going to force the hand of somebody.
So all of the things that were developed to help us cope with
these health challenges actually alter who we are, with the
eventual goal of altering us so much that we can't even respond
to the gospel. Now, does that sound anything
like something The Book of Revelation says those who took
the mark of the beast, and the reference point is, is they can
no longer be saved. Well, why can't they be saved?
Because something was genetically modified.
So is it possible that some of the things that are being
inserted to people are being genetically modified with other
than human being, things that would make some people other
than human? Well, if you're no longer a
human, you can't accept Christ as Lord and Savior because
that's the one design that was made from heaven to carry his
image. So you see where all this stuff
is going, he said. And if somebody just tuned in
and they said, Oh my gosh, this is like the worst conspiracy.
No, I see it every day. I test it every day.
I found out what boron could do within the first month of the
recent pandemic. Nobody told me that I figured it
out on my well, I didn't really. The Lord told me that it short
circuits a lot of stuff. Just have to know what you're
doing. So don't everybody go out and
start taking handfuls of boron. But so to your greater point,
yes, it's real, There's these things going on.
But we always have to keep in mind that again, I'll say it
again, I can't say it enough. It's about diminishing us so
that we do not rise up into the fullness of who we're supposed
to be, because we've only seen snippets of what the sons and
daughters of God can be and are going to do in the near future
throughout history. This is going to be en masse and
they are absolutely afraid of that.
And so they're pulling out all stops, They're really afraid of
us, is what's going on. So I don't know if that answers
the question or not, but that's that's my take on it.
Yes. And so much more.
So much more and and I feel like there's we could go a lot deeper
even. Oh, sure.
I mean, some of the greatest feedback.
Well, I shouldn't say that, but I've had some very interesting
messages just based on these symposiums that were done over
the last six or eight months here and people saying, wow,
that really resonates with me. And what I'm finding is people
from all different levels of starting to understand the
reality of the world that we're living in.
Right. Whatever.
Wherever they're at, we're trying to meet people where
they're at. We're trying to declare to them.
Jesus Christ is Lord, He is Lord of Lords.
There's one name given under heaven by which we may be saved
by, but we can't forget verses like be wise as a serpent and as
harmless as a dove. Or to be aware of the devil's
strategy and his tactics, I mean.
The gosh, the serpent was pretty wise.
It was the wisest all the beast. That's a pretty high command.
I'm not insinuating on you being close, man.
That's why I'm doing the podcast.
It's like, well, but but you saw how wise he was.
You know, the the temptation was, you know, did God really
tell you the whole truth? What if there was a whole
another system of body of knowledge out there that he's
hiding from you? Why would he do that?
Well, okay, So now we're going to turn the table because, you
know, with all this other stuff going on, we're going to say
okay. So I have creative abilities.
Is the son as a son of the Most High, I'm going to make a
heavenly Tesla Dome to walk around in.
So go ahead, try. I mean, people think, oh man,
that guy, you know, what is he smoking?
You know that he's talking that way.
Wait a minute. We battle not against flesh and
blood, but against principalities and powers and
spiritual wickedness in high places.
Do we think they don't they have technology?
Why don't we have technology? Well, brother, because you got
to know that once the gospel was established, we didn't need the
gifts or the power of God anymore.
And then I say, well, what have you been smoking?
And I I would add on and say more and more people slowly are
coming into the agreement with. The ideas that we are presenting
from a biblical perspective and being aware of our surroundings,
calculating out, hey, this is what I have been a victim of,
right? This is my testimony.
These things have come against me.
I have prayed, I'm fasting, I'm calling out to the name of God.
It is by the power of the Spirit that that God is is going to win
this and. That more and more people are
coming over into the agreement with episodes like this, with
this podcast in general. And that's what's exciting about
this time, because personally, the enemy's trying to destroy my
life right now. It's it's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable. It's what's kind of going on.
And I'm just like, well, I'm not alone.
I hear tons of people that are walking and saying, hey, we want
a frontline position here. We want to be a part of the
Eclaisia. We want to.
Be plugged into what God is going to do in this generation.
I want to know what my status is, right?
Going to church Wednesdays and Sundays has not unlocked the
revelation of my sonship, right? I've been taught scriptures and
I've been taught healthy doctrine, but we are called to
go deeper. Exactly.
Relationship. It's a relationship.
I mean this is something where every single day we should be
literally pressing in and and calling out.
And a humble, broken, contrary spirit the Lord does not reject.
So for listeners out there, if you guys find yourself, there's
a whirlwind around you. There's wars taking place.
We're not going to get into the rabbit trail of everything going
wrong, But open up your eyes. It's all happening.
It's right there. A broken and contrary spirit the
Lord does not reject. So if you find yourself at that
place. And you've listened to this
episode and you've got questions and you're taking this journey
and you're going, whoa, information overload for some of
you. Other people may be saying,
yeah, check that box. I understand what's happening
here. It reaffirmed some things that
that I've been wrestling with. Well, you know, you asked about
commonalities and one of the things that I can say is is that
Jesus made a statement and he said Satan has nothing in me.
Okay What? And, and and I don't mean to lay
this like his his condemnation on people because we're all
growing in this. There's so many different
levels. But one of the reasons to get my
book is because it gives you a foundation to work off of.
It filled the gap because there wasn't one like that out there
that I was aware of that gave us the terminology and
understanding. But I repeat over and over in
the book we cut our teeth on getting rid of the filters and
static within our self first before we jump out there and
start doing heavy Kingdom stuff. Because it's in.
It's kind of like being in a flight simulator over and over
and over again. And then finally we get a knock
on the door and said okay, it's time to try a real plane.
Now Okay, but you've become proficient and we are our own
flight simulator. And so everybody's had their
herds, disappointments, you know, family, things passed on
from generation to generation. We cut our teeth, but we also
established very powerful abilities as we successfully
move through one level after another after another, OK.
And when we do that, then there does come a point where we go on
the offensive, not just out of our own head, because then we
just fell back into operating out of our soul.
Because we're led by the Holy Spirit in our spirit to do what
we see the Father doing daily. And that's our safety net.
And that's how we stay humble, Because if we don't go outside
of that, we're never going to do anything on our own out of just
being mad because something upset us or whatever, because
then we fall into the enemy's hands.
But the Lord is training all of us.
And so in this, when I see the frequencies, when I see all the
other things, a lot of the same things seem to happen over and
over again. The liver becomes congested.
People either get hardening of the arteries or they gain
weight, Especially around the midsection.
Most everybody's adrenal glands are shot sometimes it's the
thyroid. Well, we we know how to match
supplements at least to get them kind of treading water instead
of sinking down below. But it's also all the spiritual
stuff that we need to get going, brother, because if there's a
real danger and it OK, so I have I I love everyone of my
grandchildren equally. It's so funny to see how some
are kind of more quiet and austere and then the other ones
are just bubbly and funny and it's like they were born that
way. But I've got one granddaughter
who is so very precocious, and I believe she's 5 right now and
she's very smart. I mean, she's one day she, she
wanted to play a game of war with me, you know, with cards,
like I had a nine. But she had a Jack.
And she said she looked at me and she looked at me and she
said, grandpa, she said, I'm just telling you, you better be
prepared to lose. I almost always win.
I said OK, you know, and and guess what?
She beat me okay, but I'm not going to give that child as
smart as she is and as precocious as she is, the keys
to my car. That would be crazy.
Because knowing her, she might figure out a way to put blocks
on her feet and decide to go up and down the street.
Well, that probably wouldn't be safe for everybody.
There's a lot of believers out there.
Even if you've been in the word a lot, that's a good thing,
That's fact it's a very good thing.
But have you engaged with that word until it jumps out at you
and goes from being logos to Rama, meaning it's alive.
Has that has that started working in between the layers of
your body, soul and spirit to bring about changes to form you
into the image of Christ? So it we don't.
So one of the things that could be said about the movement that
I'm a part of is that we have a lot of experiences.
But I can sit here today and tell you that I didn't ask for
one of them. They came because of my
dedication to the Word, because of my knowledge of the Word, and
because I was pressing into the heart of the Father.
And he just took me there. One day I was having communion
and just loving on the Lord Jesus, just thanking him for
everything that he did. And he said, hey, you want to go
to my workshop? And the next thing I know, I'm
walking around in around in his heavenly workshop.
Now to put that in perspective, I'm a knower.
I don't usually see things, but boy did he have a workshop I got
to see that day. Well, the religious purist would
just have a heart attack. He's saying you can go to
Jesus's workshop during communion.
Well, maybe Jesus wants to take you for a nice walk through a
field and put his arm around you and hug away all the abuse and
all the times where you were never understood.
All the times that your heart was absolutely, devastatingly
broken and during that communion time that he wants to do that.
Well, first of all, you got to know it's possible.
But if he did, how would that not be a good thing?
Rod? This is how we expand.
It's little me and Big Jesus. And if it's Big Jesus, how about
letting him really be big instead of just putting him in a
box and saying, well, you can only come out when I tell you
that's really what we're doing. If we're buying into the way
that the world works, heaven works on a completely different
paradigm shift and system of operations than what we do, and
we are supposed to live in both places at the same time.
Christ in me. The hope of glory, Yes.
But I'm also seated with him in heavenly places.
It's not a metaphor. I'm actually there.
I'm seated inside of him. Oh, brother, you're getting
weird on us. No, I'm not.
We have. How can Jesus be a million or 50
million or 100 billion places at the same time?
Well, what if he gave us four or five layers of our spirit to be
able to do the same thing? Now the New Agers do that with
their soul, and they stretch that silver strand.
We don't do that with our soul. We live and move and have our
being in him, and we operate out of our spirit.
That's why they're afraid of us. That's where they're trying to
keep us screwed up. I'm going to have to listen to
this on replay a few times myself.
Doc. This is.
This is what the church needs to hear.
This is what I need to hear. This is what the listeners need
to hear. So I I can't, I have more
questions. We're going to, we're going to
wind down here and and there's definitely a part 2-3 for.
I mean they just I I don't see an ending to it.
You'll just have to be a a, you know, a quarterly or monthly
guest at this point in time because there's so much, so much
ground for us to cover and so much already covered.
Yeah, I'm going to have to marinate in this for a little
bit, Doc. Well, the I'm open the next few
Mondays. After that I don't know.
But you know you just however the Lord leads, brother, I'm
around if you need me. But Monday's definitely at this
time or my best time, so. Well, let's let's tell the
audience where they can find your book.
Is there a place that you recommend that they purchase
like Amazon or your website? And I'll also put links in the
show notes for everybody and then close this out here, give
us some winding down words. OK Well, Okay.
So my website is actually docroditch.com, so I'm going to
spell that out. Doc is just short for doctors,
so it's DOC. And then my last name which is
ROD, as in David ICH Now some people put a K at the end.
It's not a K, it's an H So it's docroditch.com.
When you go to my website, there'll be a couple of videos
up and that my web host was gracious to put in, but you'll
see right away an explanation of what I do.
For those who want the complete package, because it's split up
on my website, it's $250 to do the nutritional and then it's
250 to have the spiritual test. But if they're combined, there's
$100 discount, so it's 400. There's links there.
You'll tell me a little bit about yourself, that type of
thing, because it allows a video.
I'll get an e-mail. I do use PayPal that way, but
also on the site is a link that takes you directly to lulu.com
where you can order. My book not usually takes about
a week, week and a half and but I recommend it as a reference
primarily because the Lord gave it to me as a download and I
still have to refer back to it. So, you know, I'd love to say
I'm this brilliant, wild and crazy guy like Steve Martin.
But, you know, I'm just honored that the Lord said, hey, I've
asked all these other people to do it.
They didn't do it. There's old Doc, Let's call on
him. You know, he always says yes.
So that's that's what heaven did.
And and so so that's, like I said, Doc, roditch.com.
Or if you just want it really quick, you just go to Amazon but
not the Kindle and it's 25 bucks.
And like I said, it's got the workbook at the end.
And as far as you know, maybe, maybe I would like to leave the
folks with a thought. So very often what we're molded
by in life is people that pass one thing on from one generation
to another. However, because of the severity
of the battle that is really going on against those that call
upon the name of the true Lord, and that's Jesus Christ, we
can't. We have to go back and we have
to look at a lot of things. Not what salvation means, not
being filled with the Holy Ghost, not the fruits of the
Spirit, none of those things. Those things have always been
great and active and should be paramount in what we do.
But I'm talking about some of the doctrines and activities
that result from doctrines that in and of themselves keep us
limited. We need to be like the apostles
who, when they were walking down the road, their shadow touched
somebody and they were healed. The naysayers always say, well,
they were apostles, so they believed the same way that I
believed. What they had is they had
everything such balance and synchronization that the Lord of
Glory was walking in them and the Holy Spirit was all around
them. And tell me why we shouldn't be
that way today. So please be challenged to be
stretched in your inner man or woman and allow the Lord to come
in at levels that you never dreamed of, because he's big
enough to fill that into Infinity.
Let him, as a result of pressing into his heart, show you things
that you never dreamed that you would know.
But then turn around and be a blessing to other people.
Because the reason that the world is in the mess that it's
in today is because we've allowed society, culture, so
many other things to dumb us down.
My challenge to each and every one of us would be, isn't it
time that it, children of the living God, bring heaven culture
down to earth and start demonstrating it in a visible
fashion? That's not just for after we
die, it's for now. And those who can catch on to
that, they're going to be the game changers in the world.
Changers. Phenomenal.
And I couldn't recommend your book more to the audience.
You guys go get a copy of Moving Towards Sonship with the
workbook. You'll find some details in the
show, notes listeners reiterating what Doc told us
where to get, where to get his book from, and I'm excited to
have him back in the future. A bit of a cliffhanger with the
questions I have, and I know with you guys as the audience
you've got plenty of questions too, so keep your eyes open.
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