1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Hello folks. This is Princess. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,520 You are listening to the Millennial Mustard See podcast. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,040 Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your 4 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:11,640 friends. That's tough. 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,120 We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,520 right now is a great benefit in virtue because it's an end 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,720 around between this whole corrupt informational system, 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,080 media system. We claim to believe in a God who 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,440 spoke the universe into existence and literally raised 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,800 himself from the dead, and yet we're not going to believe that 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,920 anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though his 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,560 word tells us that they do. Their bodies weren't permitted 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,840 to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,200 to heaven, so they wander the earth. 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,840 You know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,640 being spoken. These giants would live way up 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,350 in the island. The young Braves, the young men 18 00:00:59,470 --> 00:01:01,470 would hide them in the trees. They wait. 19 00:01:01,470 --> 00:01:03,030 For one of these 12 footers to come. 20 00:01:03,030 --> 00:01:06,070 Walking down the bath and they would jump on them and kill them 21 00:01:06,070 --> 00:01:08,670 and drag them back to the village and the village would 22 00:01:08,670 --> 00:01:16,350 feast on the body. Then people start to get. 23 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:17,910 Weapons. They start to get armor, They 24 00:01:17,910 --> 00:01:20,110 start to build cities, they start to fortify their cities. 25 00:01:20,430 --> 00:01:25,070 Now God looks down and there's violence everywhere, the battle, 26 00:01:25,070 --> 00:01:28,030 this war that we are at. Is not against each other. 27 00:01:28,430 --> 00:01:30,710 It's against these principalities and these rulers 28 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:33,070 and these archons In the high places, it's. 29 00:01:33,110 --> 00:01:35,110 Really worthwhile to read the Bible yourself. 30 00:01:35,870 --> 00:01:39,470 Fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control. 31 00:01:39,910 --> 00:01:44,030 Because we have to take every thought captive and resist fear. 32 00:01:47,010 --> 00:01:51,890 You're going to have a testimony that is a justice case against 33 00:01:52,090 --> 00:02:07,930 the Kingdom of Darkness. Welcome back to the Millennial 34 00:02:07,930 --> 00:02:11,330 Mustard Seed Podcast. I am your host Rod, and thank 35 00:02:11,330 --> 00:02:13,130 you for being here with me again. 36 00:02:13,950 --> 00:02:15,990 I have a bombshell episode for you guys. 37 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:20,550 This is a part one with the one and only Doctor Robert Rodich, 38 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:24,230 and we have a fascinating conversation. 39 00:02:24,230 --> 00:02:26,110 Let me just tell you that right off the bat. 40 00:02:26,110 --> 00:02:28,350 This is one for the records you guys. 41 00:02:28,350 --> 00:02:33,950 This is part one of many parts. Just a little glimpse to what's 42 00:02:33,950 --> 00:02:37,070 come down the pipeline. We have a lot of territory to 43 00:02:37,070 --> 00:02:39,350 cover. He's a well established author. 44 00:02:39,350 --> 00:02:42,470 He's been a pastor. Had pastored for, I think it was 45 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:45,950 like 30 years at some point. He's getting ready real soon 46 00:02:45,950 --> 00:02:47,910 here to celebrate his 70th birthday. 47 00:02:48,750 --> 00:02:53,030 He's an interesting man with quite a story to tell and his 48 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:55,870 research and some of the methods he uses. 49 00:02:56,150 --> 00:03:00,670 I don't know if many people are going to be aware of what Doc 50 00:03:00,990 --> 00:03:07,230 does, but it's fascinating and I have to testify it works. 51 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,960 And this is one of those conversations that just will 52 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,880 keep you coming back for more, because I'm on the edge of my 53 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,080 seat for the next time I have him on the podcast, which 54 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,080 shouldn't be too far down the road. 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,680 But what you guys have to look forward to on this recording is 56 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,280 enough for the time being. We talk about Frequency, his 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,680 testimony. We talk all about the spiritual 58 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,400 realm, sonship of God, the enemy, the good guys. 59 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,200 Aliens. I mean, we dive into like every 60 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,560 topic on this one and still get a bit of his testimony, and 61 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,280 there's so much more to cover. But listen, I need you guys to 62 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,280 partner with me. I left a link in the show 63 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,280 description. You guys can go to Gibson Go, 64 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,160 You can find the cash app, the Venmo. 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,480 You can go right to Spotify for podcasters and donate monthly. 66 00:04:03,130 --> 00:04:06,730 Please keep us in prayer and please help us out in our time 67 00:04:06,730 --> 00:04:09,450 of need. Everything that you guys do, it 68 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:12,250 makes a difference. You guys keep us in the Airways 69 00:04:12,250 --> 00:04:15,570 and that is necessary in the days that we are living in. 70 00:04:16,209 --> 00:04:20,410 And please, my peeps, I need you guys to leave me that five star 71 00:04:20,410 --> 00:04:23,010 rating and review that helps the show grow. 72 00:04:23,330 --> 00:04:27,770 So I won't waste any more time. I am ready to dive into this 73 00:04:27,770 --> 00:04:29,890 episode. Are you guys ready? 74 00:04:30,990 --> 00:04:47,270 Let's go. Hello, everyone, this is Doctor 75 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:50,510 Robert Broditch, and we'd like to welcome you to the Millennial 76 00:04:50,510 --> 00:04:53,630 Mustard Seed Podcast. And we're glad you decided to 77 00:04:53,630 --> 00:04:55,310 join us today. So welcome. 78 00:04:57,150 --> 00:05:00,750 Doctor Robert, that was an awesome introduction and I'm 79 00:05:00,750 --> 00:05:03,710 happy to have you here, man. We've had a couple conversations 80 00:05:03,750 --> 00:05:07,550 and I am excited to have you here on this episode with me. 81 00:05:07,550 --> 00:05:09,630 Thank you for being here. Well, thank you, Ron. 82 00:05:10,350 --> 00:05:14,550 I came across you in a very unique way, and I'm glad that 83 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:18,590 God works all things together for the good and he's mysterious 84 00:05:18,590 --> 00:05:25,150 and how he connects us together. It's it's an interesting 85 00:05:25,150 --> 00:05:26,930 journey, isn't it? Yes, it is. 86 00:05:27,290 --> 00:05:30,330 I kind of want to start at the beginning a little bit here, and 87 00:05:30,450 --> 00:05:34,010 I'd like to ask you just to dive into telling us how you became 88 00:05:34,410 --> 00:05:36,610 Doctor Robert Rodish that you are today. 89 00:05:37,370 --> 00:05:40,450 Wow. Well, now, keep in mind that on 90 00:05:40,450 --> 00:05:44,770 the day that we're we're taping this, if that's the proper term 91 00:05:44,810 --> 00:05:50,450 for a podcast, I'm just a little less than a month away from 92 00:05:50,570 --> 00:05:53,490 having my 70th birthday. So I've been around for a little 93 00:05:53,490 --> 00:05:59,640 while and I go back to where I was saved in the early 1970s and 94 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,120 it would have been the end of the Jesus movement, which this 95 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,000 movie that just came out recently. 96 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Now, I wasn't one of the guys in the movie, but it was so funny 97 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,040 when I saw all those hippie types up there playing their 98 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,080 musical instruments and things like that. 99 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:21,340 I was one of those guys on the platform at a church after just 100 00:06:21,340 --> 00:06:24,100 getting saved with the long hair and everything, and they asked 101 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:26,740 us to come in and and do worship songs. 102 00:06:26,740 --> 00:06:28,740 Of course, we didn't know any of the songs that were in the 103 00:06:28,780 --> 00:06:31,660 hymnal or anything like that at that point, which I know I'm all 104 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:33,580 by heart now. And I can even tell you in some 105 00:06:33,580 --> 00:06:36,980 days what page what the song was, you know, after you've been 106 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:39,260 around a while. We didn't have any of that in 107 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:42,100 those days. So, you know, we sang, you know, 108 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:47,010 all the kind of Jesus tunes that they were was going around. 109 00:06:47,010 --> 00:06:50,530 And so I did get wonderfully and gloriously saved in the early 110 00:06:50,530 --> 00:06:55,170 70s, knew almost immediately that I had some kind of a call 111 00:06:55,170 --> 00:06:57,370 on my life. And what was also interesting, 112 00:06:57,370 --> 00:07:01,650 Rob, is that the gifts of the Holy Spirit started operating 113 00:07:02,330 --> 00:07:05,330 fairly quickly in my life. I just had words of wisdom, 114 00:07:05,330 --> 00:07:08,220 words of knowledge. It was filled with the Holy 115 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:10,660 Spirit very soon after becoming a believer. 116 00:07:10,660 --> 00:07:13,300 And sorry to some of our evangelical friends who think 117 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:14,780 you get everything all at one time. 118 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:16,860 That wasn't my personal experience. 119 00:07:19,180 --> 00:07:22,220 So I just said, well, what do I do? 120 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:25,700 Well, the Assemblies of God at that time had a wonderful and 121 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:28,540 probably still do training program that you were, we were 122 00:07:28,540 --> 00:07:30,540 able to do through correspondence. 123 00:07:30,540 --> 00:07:32,740 In those days, there was nothing online at all. 124 00:07:32,740 --> 00:07:36,660 I mean, we were lucky we could afford telephones in some cases 125 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,360 and just landlines, you know, let alone cell phones. 126 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,160 Not even a thought 50 years ago. So I started my training and 127 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,200 then eventually went to the university and and eventually 128 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,120 got a Doctorate of Divinity degree. 129 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,480 But in my ministry with the Assemblies of God, which lasted 130 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,520 for nearly 30 years, I would be an individual that they would 131 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,870 send into, oh, churches that were maybe had either had 132 00:08:03,870 --> 00:08:05,990 trouble or were struggling a little bit. 133 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:08,030 And they just wanted a foundation laid. 134 00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:12,190 So, you know, I can't sit here. You know, I would be totally 135 00:08:12,590 --> 00:08:15,190 telling them this truth if I said, Oh yeah, we started with 136 00:08:15,190 --> 00:08:17,710 eight people and we ended up with 25,000. 137 00:08:17,710 --> 00:08:21,150 You know how some people are, well, that, you know, no big 138 00:08:21,150 --> 00:08:23,190 fish stories here. You know, we'd go in and there'd 139 00:08:23,190 --> 00:08:26,710 be maybe 20 people, 25 people, and by the time we left, it 140 00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:30,750 would be 100 and 25200 people. And then the growth would take 141 00:08:30,750 --> 00:08:33,350 place afterwards. We check back a couple years 142 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:35,950 later and you know, they would be running 3 or 400 people, 143 00:08:36,150 --> 00:08:38,350 which for little communities was wonderful. 144 00:08:38,909 --> 00:08:43,549 So that's where I spent the majority of my time between Iowa 145 00:08:43,549 --> 00:08:49,030 and Tennessee. Eventually, you know, I realized 146 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:53,110 fairly early on that, hey, if I'm going to go into a church 147 00:08:53,110 --> 00:08:56,590 setting where they can't really pay me any money, I need to have 148 00:08:56,590 --> 00:08:59,640 a skill. Well, to show you how things can 149 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,360 happen sometimes, all of a sudden I've developed kind of a 150 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,320 health issue and nobody could solve it and wasn't anything 151 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,640 like super major. They'd all just tell me, hey, go 152 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,120 home, there's nothing we can do about it. 153 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:17,920 And so as the Lord led, I found a lady chiropractor that said, 154 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,560 listen, you need to go see if you can get into this guy. 155 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:27,150 His name is Doctor DA Versendal and he teaches a muscle testing 156 00:09:27,230 --> 00:09:34,030 technique called Contact Reflex analysis and if you can get in 157 00:09:34,350 --> 00:09:35,910 he may have some answers for you. 158 00:09:36,830 --> 00:09:39,870 So when I filled out the forms I put my DD down. 159 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:43,710 Well I think that they thought that I had forgotten an S and 160 00:09:43,710 --> 00:09:52,700 let me in thinking that I was a dentist and so when I got in I 161 00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:57,420 was able he, you know he he I'm introduced myself and and he he 162 00:09:57,420 --> 00:10:00,580 just for some reason he just liked me right away. 163 00:10:00,580 --> 00:10:02,980 So he said now you can stay man don't worry about it. 164 00:10:03,940 --> 00:10:07,900 Well then in the process now I'm kind of going over everything 165 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:10,180 lickety split here. I mean, there's obviously years 166 00:10:10,180 --> 00:10:14,020 of ministry, tremendous healings, people being saved, 167 00:10:14,020 --> 00:10:16,500 you know, the things that you would expect just from normal 168 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:19,740 fruit from ministry. But we're kind of getting to 169 00:10:19,740 --> 00:10:23,590 where the focus is today. So Doctor Versendall at this 170 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:28,350 particular meeting, I believe it was in Dallas, TX back in the 171 00:10:28,390 --> 00:10:32,910 early 90s, said does anybody have any inroads into President 172 00:10:32,910 --> 00:10:35,430 Ronald Reagan? Because I just understand that 173 00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:39,990 he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and I'd really like 174 00:10:39,990 --> 00:10:43,350 to try to help him. So during the break I went up 175 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:46,150 and I said, well, Doctor Versendall, I said I can't make 176 00:10:46,150 --> 00:10:49,790 any promises. But it just so happens that I 177 00:10:49,790 --> 00:10:53,350 have an uncle that my whole life I've been calling Uncle Moon, 178 00:10:54,110 --> 00:10:56,310 like Sun and Moon. Well, his name, that was his 179 00:10:56,310 --> 00:11:00,510 nickname, Didn't even know till after that that his first name 180 00:11:00,510 --> 00:11:03,710 was Neil. His last name just happened to 181 00:11:03,710 --> 00:11:06,030 be Reagan. So he's Ronald Reagan's brother, 182 00:11:06,390 --> 00:11:12,910 who is my great uncle. So I contacted him and his wife 183 00:11:12,910 --> 00:11:15,950 and unfortunately Ronald Reagan's wife Nancy, who was 184 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,880 into some kind of interesting stuff to say the least, kind of 185 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,120 acted as his gatekeeper and we were never able to get through, 186 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:26,520 but yet just the opportunity. Doctor Versendal was so 187 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,960 grateful. He paid for my education so that 188 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,720 I got a second doctorate level in Clinical Nutrition. 189 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:40,440 And so that became a way that I could help my family, you know, 190 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,520 go through the, you know, get clothes and food and things like 191 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,030 that so that I can still pastor at the same time. 192 00:11:48,270 --> 00:11:51,990 And I became actually really, really good at finding 193 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:57,310 nutritional deficiencies for people and connecting them with 194 00:11:57,990 --> 00:12:02,590 wonderful nutritional protocols that, especially back in the 90s 195 00:12:02,590 --> 00:12:06,350 into the early 2000, work really, really well until they 196 00:12:06,350 --> 00:12:10,790 started spraying all the garbage in the skies and even, you know, 197 00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:13,550 even messing the food up better and things like that. 198 00:12:13,550 --> 00:12:19,650 So in a nutshell, that's how I got at least too close to where 199 00:12:19,650 --> 00:12:25,170 I'm at today. So definitely some highlights 200 00:12:25,170 --> 00:12:27,890 there. It's very interesting journey. 201 00:12:27,890 --> 00:12:31,970 I love the mystery of how God works in and through us to cause 202 00:12:31,970 --> 00:12:34,650 his will to come about. And sometimes we don't always 203 00:12:34,650 --> 00:12:37,690 know exactly where we're going or what's taking place. 204 00:12:37,690 --> 00:12:41,930 But it's definitely important to listen to that still small 205 00:12:41,930 --> 00:12:45,110 voice, right? So, absolutely, yeah. 206 00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:48,030 I want to ask you this real quick before we start diving 207 00:12:48,030 --> 00:12:50,750 deeper into your book and what it is that you do. 208 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:54,470 Just from how long that you've been serving Christ. 209 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:57,990 And as much of that you've seen change over all these years, 210 00:12:58,550 --> 00:13:01,910 what's one of the things within Christianity that you've seen 211 00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:06,950 for the positive as a whole, not just like a local church or 212 00:13:06,950 --> 00:13:10,580 local body, but in the Western? Atmosphere here. 213 00:13:10,580 --> 00:13:14,140 What's a positive thing that you've seen maintain true to the 214 00:13:14,140 --> 00:13:17,780 gospel and what are some of the negatives that you know like the 215 00:13:17,780 --> 00:13:21,860 stigmas or or just anything that's kind of has a a negative 216 00:13:21,860 --> 00:13:24,580 overarch with Christianity. Can you just hit maybe one or 217 00:13:24,580 --> 00:13:25,220 two things? Yeah. 218 00:13:25,220 --> 00:13:28,020 When I asked you if you had any questions written down that, you 219 00:13:28,020 --> 00:13:29,380 know, that's a really good one, man. 220 00:13:29,660 --> 00:13:33,940 Yeah. I mean, well, I mean overall and 221 00:13:34,460 --> 00:13:36,740 I don't, I am not a negative person. 222 00:13:36,740 --> 00:13:41,350 In fact, I've kind of squelched negativity, but neither am I 223 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:45,030 like on the gushy side of positive either. 224 00:13:45,030 --> 00:13:47,990 You know, I'm kind of, you know, you know, it's kind of like, 225 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:51,990 yeah, I hope I'm balanced and and it's kind of like, you know, 226 00:13:52,110 --> 00:13:55,190 because you really do need to see things for what they are 227 00:13:55,990 --> 00:13:59,630 most of what I've seen in the last because I only can go back. 228 00:13:59,630 --> 00:14:03,230 You know, I'm almost 70 so I was nearly 20 years old when I got 229 00:14:03,230 --> 00:14:03,910 saved. So. 230 00:14:04,110 --> 00:14:08,490 So I've been around for 50 years in in the church, and I would 231 00:14:08,490 --> 00:14:13,370 have to say this, in the early days of things, I think people 232 00:14:13,370 --> 00:14:18,690 were much more caring and not even in people's business, but 233 00:14:18,690 --> 00:14:20,850 just genuinely caring than they are today. 234 00:14:21,610 --> 00:14:27,570 That that would be, that would be one of my observations, being 235 00:14:27,570 --> 00:14:31,130 having a charismatic or what people would call Pentecostal 236 00:14:31,130 --> 00:14:34,530 background from almost day one. Because that's the way the Lord 237 00:14:34,530 --> 00:14:38,770 moved on me. I would say that it was really 238 00:14:38,770 --> 00:14:42,170 exciting in those early days to have people that were left over 239 00:14:42,170 --> 00:14:47,010 from a lot of the great 10 tent revivals and who people who had 240 00:14:47,010 --> 00:14:53,330 seen Branham and a a Allen and how they reached out in so many 241 00:14:53,330 --> 00:14:55,330 ways. And I mean if you had a need 242 00:14:55,330 --> 00:15:01,570 man, I mean they were there. Now, having said that, I know 243 00:15:01,570 --> 00:15:05,990 that there's still individuals within churches today that will 244 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:09,470 do that because I've heard many wonderful stories, but it 245 00:15:09,470 --> 00:15:15,150 doesn't seem to be churchwide because everybody seems to be 246 00:15:15,150 --> 00:15:18,990 otherwise focused, you know, soccer for their kids, you know, 247 00:15:19,470 --> 00:15:22,470 which, no offense, but I don't even like soccer, but you know, 248 00:15:22,910 --> 00:15:26,110 I'm, I'm a tennis and and American football and baseball 249 00:15:26,110 --> 00:15:27,550 guys. So that's just the way it is. 250 00:15:27,550 --> 00:15:33,070 But you know, it's cool. It has its place and so, So the 251 00:15:33,070 --> 00:15:37,610 positives are still that Jesus has never changed. 252 00:15:38,930 --> 00:15:46,530 His word has ever powerful. One of my big surprises is that 253 00:15:47,170 --> 00:15:51,250 as I begin digging into the original languages, I begin to 254 00:15:51,250 --> 00:16:01,890 discover that in fact the word itself is more powerful than I 255 00:16:01,890 --> 00:16:04,850 could have imagined. So in the English, for instance, 256 00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:08,730 I have to say that in some cases a lot is lost. 257 00:16:09,450 --> 00:16:14,130 Now, it doesn't mean it changed the meaning overall, but on a 258 00:16:14,130 --> 00:16:18,010 scale of like zero to 10, the English maybe throws out a three 259 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:20,850 or four. In either Aramaic, Greek or 260 00:16:20,850 --> 00:16:25,450 Hebrew, it's like an 8 or a nine and or 10 even in volume. 261 00:16:27,170 --> 00:16:32,070 And so and so we're we're starting to discover things like 262 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:35,590 that more and more now. Now, I realize you asked me 263 00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:38,870 about the church, but the church is who teaches this stuff. 264 00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:42,710 Exactly. So for instance, I was doing a 265 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:48,630 word study not long ago and I realized that there was three 266 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:52,990 different levels of power in relationship to, you know, to 267 00:16:52,990 --> 00:16:57,450 our our intimacy with the Lord. And one of them is Xocea, which 268 00:16:57,450 --> 00:16:59,090 is kind of the authoritative thing. 269 00:16:59,090 --> 00:17:00,490 You know, anybody. I don't care whether your 270 00:17:00,490 --> 00:17:03,930 Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, you have the authority to cast 271 00:17:03,930 --> 00:17:07,770 out a devil in Jesus name. Well, but then there's the 272 00:17:07,770 --> 00:17:11,450 doonamos, depending on how it comes from the word. 273 00:17:11,450 --> 00:17:13,250 You know what we get the word dynamite from? 274 00:17:13,970 --> 00:17:16,690 Well, that comes after the baptism in the holy with the 275 00:17:16,690 --> 00:17:20,140 Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues, which I'm sorry, but 276 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:22,579 the two do go together because you're not going to be speaking 277 00:17:22,579 --> 00:17:24,500 in heavenly code if you don't have the tongue. 278 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:27,300 So you know, some people really just need to get over that whole 279 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:33,420 thing and but it's it's a dynamic for today and and and 280 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:36,140 the Holy Spirit gets actively involved and that's where 281 00:17:36,140 --> 00:17:39,740 tremendous levels of his presence can flow. 282 00:17:40,380 --> 00:17:45,420 But in the English language, in several verses, it'll say it'll 283 00:17:45,420 --> 00:17:47,860 say power and then it'll say power again. 284 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,920 But they're not the same word. There's a third level of power. 285 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:56,280 Kratos, I believe it's spelled Kratos. 286 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,920 That's resurrection power. That's the power that raised 287 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:03,040 Jesus from the dead. And that's the power that we're 288 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:08,000 supposed to be walking in today. So all three combined. 289 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,120 Well, everybody's teaching the 1st 2:00, but you know, OK, 290 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:17,680 we're moving on from maybe a 9 Volt battery to 110. 291 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,720 Now we're moving into 440 and it seems like there's not enough 292 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,520 electricians around. Wow, okay. 293 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,560 So that brings with it a whole thing. 294 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:32,400 So, so those are the things that that I'm noticing in the 295 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,320 interaction between the the church and you know so there's 296 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,920 like positives. At the same time that there are 297 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,290 negatives especially in some of the smaller communities. 298 00:18:42,290 --> 00:18:44,170 I watched some of my family and Facebook. 299 00:18:44,170 --> 00:18:48,050 I'm so excited to see a lot of my nieces and nephews mainly 300 00:18:48,050 --> 00:18:51,050 because of the testimony of my dad who passed away fairly 301 00:18:51,050 --> 00:18:54,610 recently. But he was just a real pillar up 302 00:18:54,610 --> 00:19:00,370 in southeastern Iowa in in the community and he a prayer pillar 303 00:19:00,370 --> 00:19:01,970 especially. So many of them are getting 304 00:19:01,970 --> 00:19:03,450 saved. They're in their their church 305 00:19:03,450 --> 00:19:05,130 and Saturday night they're doing this. 306 00:19:05,130 --> 00:19:08,330 They're running all over. So, So especially in the smaller 307 00:19:08,330 --> 00:19:12,900 communities, wonderful things still happen, are happening or 308 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:16,060 going to happen. But the one thing that I'm 309 00:19:16,060 --> 00:19:20,380 yearning for is that book of Daniel which is already being 310 00:19:20,380 --> 00:19:23,500 opened, that part where the Lord said seal it up until the end. 311 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:28,060 It is being opened and I think we need to be able to expand and 312 00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:30,460 stretch in order to walk in that kind of stuff. 313 00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:34,340 And if I'm seeing some struggles today, Rod, it's because people 314 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:38,090 are trying to hang on to what they're familiar with instead of 315 00:19:38,090 --> 00:19:42,010 letting God expand them more into the presence and image of 316 00:19:42,010 --> 00:19:45,570 his son, which is beyond dynamic. 317 00:19:45,570 --> 00:19:50,650 It becomes electrifying. And but that also takes, that 318 00:19:50,650 --> 00:19:54,610 also takes a level of dedication that many people are just too 319 00:19:54,610 --> 00:19:57,330 busy with life's things to to be able to give. 320 00:19:58,810 --> 00:19:59,970 Oh my gosh. Wow. 321 00:20:00,370 --> 00:20:05,040 I'm excited just in this first. First, couple questions. 322 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,760 I'm excited because your responses are spot on them, 323 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:11,080 definitely in agreement with what you're saying and it great 324 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,520 observation with what you've seen over the last 50 years 325 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,520 within Christianity. I think you really hit the nail 326 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,480 on the head. You know, there's some basic, 327 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,440 like Level 1 duties that we have, like bearing each other's 328 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,240 burdens and so fulfilling the law, right? 329 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,280 Love being this greatest commandment. 330 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,280 And we do see a lot of like kind of tribe and clickiness within 331 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,920 Christianity and then the word study stuff, man, that is so 332 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:42,120 important because one thing, Doc, is recently, you know, this 333 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:46,600 Mandela Effect in the Bible is kind of a topic of conversation 334 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,080 among some people. And I did cover an episode with 335 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:52,200 a gentleman who wrote a book about it. 336 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,640 And I and I was in disagreement to an extent. 337 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,560 I understood some things were very provocative to say the 338 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,300 least. But with the language, you know, 339 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:06,100 we say the word, oh, I love these shoes, right? 340 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:09,340 Oh, I love this new song. It's like we've stolen the 341 00:21:09,340 --> 00:21:11,980 actual essence and the meaning of these words. 342 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:16,140 So our our local candence, our slang, our language has been 343 00:21:16,140 --> 00:21:20,020 shifted and altered so much and it's more important now than 344 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:24,100 ever to jump in to the word studies using a septuagin A 345 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:26,940 concordinates. I mean just really slowing down 346 00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:29,680 and understanding what was said. Well, can I get? 347 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,240 Can I give you an example on that? 348 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,480 Using the word love before you get too far in? 349 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,320 Because then I'll forget, you know, as part of being 70s. 350 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,000 So I understand, yes. But but for instance, OK, the 351 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,800 scripture that tells us that perfect love casts out all fear. 352 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,280 OK, so I mean, there's whole doctrines built around stuff 353 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,120 like that, right? Well, if you look it up in the 354 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:53,200 original, what it really means is, is that when your love 355 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,520 becomes mature, you will no longer walk in fear, but you'll 356 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,830 be walking. In the glory and in the presence 357 00:22:00,830 --> 00:22:02,630 and the confidence of the Savior. 358 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:08,550 Now when you take it for what it really says, it gives room in 359 00:22:08,550 --> 00:22:10,110 there. Not because we don't want to be 360 00:22:10,110 --> 00:22:14,230 afraid, ever. That's not you know, you know, 361 00:22:14,590 --> 00:22:16,550 you know. And then perfect love casts out 362 00:22:16,550 --> 00:22:18,430 all fear, You know, that kind of thing. 363 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:23,230 Well, that's true. But but as we move on, we need 364 00:22:23,230 --> 00:22:26,590 to realize that hey okay, let's say somebody's been saved for 15 365 00:22:26,590 --> 00:22:29,110 years and all the sudden. They face something they've 366 00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:33,030 never faced before. Don't go around beating yourself 367 00:22:33,030 --> 00:22:36,630 just because you didn't behave perfectly. 368 00:22:38,150 --> 00:22:40,190 You know, you don't, you know, I mean, hopefully you didn't do 369 00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:42,190 anything that's going to end you up in jail. 370 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:44,510 But you understand what I'm saying? 371 00:22:44,510 --> 00:22:48,750 I mean it's it's like sometimes, you know, by the standard that 372 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:53,470 the perfect church people said maybe you were only 80% in shame 373 00:22:53,470 --> 00:22:57,070 on you because you weren't 95 like the rest of them. 374 00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:58,990 Okay. You see, you see what I'm 375 00:22:58,990 --> 00:23:02,030 saying? So, so there's if you look at it 376 00:23:02,030 --> 00:23:05,590 in the original language, it doesn't change that Perfect love 377 00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:10,990 does cast out all fear. But what it does is it gives 378 00:23:10,990 --> 00:23:14,790 room for growth. And that's the contextual part 379 00:23:14,790 --> 00:23:18,950 of it, that somehow English just doesn't carry a lot of the time. 380 00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:22,790 And and so, you know, that's just to your point. 381 00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:25,470 Yeah. And what's really going on with 382 00:23:25,470 --> 00:23:28,320 this English language. I mean, I been doing some deep 383 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,880 dives into it with the Mandela Effect examples that were 384 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,440 portrayed to me and there's there's something wrong with it. 385 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,080 I haven't quite pinpointed it. I don't want to speak from a 386 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,320 place of like I have resources and and evidence that can hint 387 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,360 towards my conjecture. But you're so spot on and this 388 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,640 is what real students of the Bible will do, because there's 389 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,220 there's no great victory and winning over a bunch of people 390 00:23:58,220 --> 00:24:02,380 to this Mandela Effect idea of the Bible changing that aren't 391 00:24:02,380 --> 00:24:04,540 actually studying and have a personal relationship with 392 00:24:04,540 --> 00:24:06,140 Christ. All you're doing is sweeping up 393 00:24:06,140 --> 00:24:09,620 people from the floor that that don't have a care, right. 394 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:11,220 They're not hiding the word in their heart. 395 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:14,940 You know that they might not sin against God right there. 396 00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:17,660 There's no studying to show themselves well approved and 397 00:24:17,660 --> 00:24:20,140 with fear and trembling working out their salvation. 398 00:24:20,620 --> 00:24:24,190 And the people I'm looking for are the people who are really 399 00:24:24,190 --> 00:24:26,750 going, hold on, let's slow down, let's look at this. 400 00:24:27,070 --> 00:24:28,870 Let's make sure we have the big picture here. 401 00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:32,910 So a great example. I mean, yeah, you build on that 402 00:24:32,910 --> 00:24:34,790 point. I couldn't add anything to it, 403 00:24:34,790 --> 00:24:41,830 but I definitely would like to dive deeper into that in the 404 00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:44,430 future. Just word study. 405 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:48,310 I have some things in mind. The importance of it or just 406 00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:51,190 it's imperative it's yeah. I mean, just let me know, but I 407 00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:54,190 can address the Mandela Effect a little bit. 408 00:24:54,190 --> 00:24:56,310 I don't know if it's too early in the broadcast. 409 00:24:56,350 --> 00:24:58,070 So no, it's it's not too early at all. 410 00:24:58,070 --> 00:25:01,870 I think the reason I brought it up is because just to make a 411 00:25:01,870 --> 00:25:04,390 real quick point and then I'd like you to address the Mandela 412 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:07,310 Effect from your perspective and show us what what you're seeing, 413 00:25:07,310 --> 00:25:10,350 what's going on here. But a lot of the verses that are 414 00:25:10,350 --> 00:25:14,470 being used are to express this Mandela Effect change or King 415 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:17,390 James only. And one of the things that was 416 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:21,990 an offput for me Doc, is when I went to the concordinates and 417 00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:24,990 started to look at root words. I was told, Oh no, you can't do 418 00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:27,070 that. The Mandela Effect is based on 419 00:25:27,070 --> 00:25:30,870 this memory reaction. If one of the verses was like, 420 00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:34,590 judge, not blank, you be judged. And I just remembered saying, 421 00:25:34,590 --> 00:25:37,470 lest you be judged, And then the guns, like that's not anywhere 422 00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:40,110 in the Bible that doesn't exist. It's the Mandela Effect. 423 00:25:40,110 --> 00:25:42,230 The world is ending. Reptilians are taking over 424 00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:43,910 everything, right? And it's like, Oh my gosh, hold 425 00:25:43,910 --> 00:25:46,670 on, slow down. If that's culturally relevant 426 00:25:46,670 --> 00:25:48,870 here in the West. And there's doctrines that have 427 00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:53,150 exploded in within social media and there's, you know, relevant 428 00:25:53,150 --> 00:25:55,670 teachings that people get that stuff seeded into the 429 00:25:55,670 --> 00:25:58,360 subconscious. And let's just be honest, most 430 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,720 of us aren't diving into the word for ourselves. 431 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,080 A lot of the past history, at least in my short time walking 432 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,400 within, quote UN quote Christianity or just following 433 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,920 after the Lord and being aware of all these little tribes of 434 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:15,480 Christian denominations, it's really easy just to get caught 435 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,120 up into one man standing in front of the room, you know, 436 00:26:19,630 --> 00:26:22,150 here, take my parable, take what I'm saying, you might read a 437 00:26:22,150 --> 00:26:24,510 couple verses in that congregation and then move on. 438 00:26:24,670 --> 00:26:27,590 But there's something terribly wrong with that. 439 00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:30,790 So I'm I'm very interested to hear what your perspective is on 440 00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:33,390 this. Well, I mean, first of all, I'm 441 00:26:33,390 --> 00:26:36,910 not saying there's not a Mandela Effect because I remember the 442 00:26:36,910 --> 00:26:39,870 whole lion and the lamb thing versus the wolf and the lamb and 443 00:26:39,870 --> 00:26:42,030 it's like okay. So I even went upstairs, and 444 00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:44,310 this has been several years ago, because I had a Bible that I 445 00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:46,550 hadn't opened in probably 30 years and. 446 00:26:47,010 --> 00:26:49,730 And I thought, okay, now how did that get changed in there? 447 00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:53,210 Even though it's been sitting here for 30 years, So, you know, 448 00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:56,050 so that's an interesting phenomenon, just like the Flat 449 00:26:56,050 --> 00:26:59,170 Earth thing, Okay, you know, and I won't even go into that. 450 00:26:59,330 --> 00:27:01,850 I don't really care if the if we're sitting on a pinhead 451 00:27:01,850 --> 00:27:03,810 somewhere, we're still doing what we're doing. 452 00:27:04,970 --> 00:27:09,650 You know it's so, but the whole, the whole thing is what the 453 00:27:09,690 --> 00:27:16,490 enemies camp is doing is trying to keep us dumbed down now. 454 00:27:16,970 --> 00:27:19,450 You say, well how does that relate to the the the Mandela 455 00:27:19,450 --> 00:27:22,570 Effect? Well, because some people and 456 00:27:22,570 --> 00:27:25,970 not a law, but some people will just, you know, throw themselves 457 00:27:25,970 --> 00:27:29,210 into it and you know, trying to become, you know, so prove that 458 00:27:29,210 --> 00:27:32,570 the earth is flat and you know, prove that you know the Mandela 459 00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:35,810 effect is out there and and we all know what it's talking about 460 00:27:35,810 --> 00:27:38,930 that, you know, first he was dead and now he's not and that, 461 00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:41,370 you know, it's this word and then now it says this. 462 00:27:41,730 --> 00:27:46,410 But think about it if somehow in that process. 463 00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:50,430 We can be kept from understanding what true sonship 464 00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:56,070 is and how closely created because of the second atom that 465 00:27:56,150 --> 00:28:00,670 we are to the Son of God and Son of man because of the new birth 466 00:28:00,670 --> 00:28:03,790 from above. If they can keep us from 467 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:08,830 operating in what the Bible really says about what that 468 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:13,990 process is to where we walk into fullness of sonship. 469 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:17,350 Then they're not going to have anybody that's really going to 470 00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:19,870 be any threat to what they're doing. 471 00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:23,110 Wow. Yeah, OK, who am I Speaking of? 472 00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:27,990 Well, hopefully your cast go all over the place. 473 00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:30,590 But they're going to be listened to probably by government 474 00:28:30,590 --> 00:28:34,670 officials, by people that are Satanists and all over. 475 00:28:34,670 --> 00:28:39,750 And it's like, OK, here's my word to you all, we're not all 476 00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:44,010 stupid out here. I've been known for almost my 477 00:28:44,010 --> 00:28:46,730 full 50 years as a believer that you're out there, you're trying 478 00:28:46,730 --> 00:28:48,530 to control things. But guess what? 479 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:51,090 God is unveiling the sons of God. 480 00:28:53,770 --> 00:28:58,170 We are going to be operating at levels of authority and power 481 00:28:58,570 --> 00:29:03,210 and energy and frequencies that you've never seen before. 482 00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:07,490 Does it matter how much you get a I involved? 483 00:29:08,770 --> 00:29:13,290 You've never seen this before? We're rising up in the power and 484 00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:17,650 image of the Son of God, and just because you've maybe 485 00:29:17,650 --> 00:29:23,290 figured out a way to tweak the time continuum a little bit, you 486 00:29:23,290 --> 00:29:26,250 haven't seen anything about what's getting ready to come. 487 00:29:27,170 --> 00:29:31,170 It's like Bobby Boucher, played by Adam Sandler, he said. 488 00:29:32,530 --> 00:29:35,970 I'm getting ready to open up a can of blank blank on. 489 00:29:39,050 --> 00:29:40,130 OK. Wow. 490 00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:45,130 And and so, and So what the enemies camp wants us to do, 491 00:29:46,090 --> 00:29:52,330 using the Bobby Boucher analogy, is to even if we soup up our 492 00:29:52,330 --> 00:29:56,290 lawnmower, they still want us riding around on a lawnmower and 493 00:29:56,290 --> 00:30:03,090 not a vehicle. OK, so, So that's what most of 494 00:30:03,090 --> 00:30:06,010 these things are. They're distractions, yeah. 495 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Okay. Then somebody else will come up 496 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,760 and say, well, the words really wrong in so many areas. 497 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,920 No, it's not wrong. It's been dumbed down. 498 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,600 Can we be adults and realize that when I go into certain 499 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:34,720 circles, which is dangerous for them, not for me, I'll have 500 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,480 people come up to me and say brother. 501 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,240 Why don't you use the same Bible that Paul used? 502 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120 Oh, what is that, The 16 and 11 King James. 503 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,880 Yes, Sir. That's the one that Paul used. 504 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,960 I said. But it was written in 1611 and 505 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,160 Paul was around in the 1st century. 506 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Well, you know what I mean. Well, OK, well, none of them are 507 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,400 as accurate as they should be because again, we lose the 508 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,040 meanings. We lose. 509 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,160 Let me give let me give you a a a real quick illustration. 510 00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:08,790 Because we don't want to get down too many rabbit holes here, 511 00:31:08,790 --> 00:31:11,870 but my grandmother and grandfather and my dad's side 512 00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:16,070 were what most people would recognize from the former 513 00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:18,310 Yugoslavia. Although when they came to the 514 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:22,190 United States in the early nine 1900s, it was actually part. 515 00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:25,750 The part they came from, even though they were Serbian people, 516 00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:29,030 came from a part of what is now modern day Croatia. 517 00:31:29,030 --> 00:31:33,630 But it was part of the Austrohungarian Empire and when 518 00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:35,790 I was around and I spent a lot of time with them. 519 00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:42,220 And when we would myself or my cousin, who is real close to my 520 00:31:42,220 --> 00:31:46,140 age, we'd do something silly. She'd she'd go around and she'd 521 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:50,340 make this statement. She'd say Tolda, Tolda Banista. 522 00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:53,220 Well, I always took that to me and you guys are just being 523 00:31:53,220 --> 00:31:55,700 crazy. Why are you acting crazy? 524 00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:00,300 Well, finally, several years after she passed, I'm sitting 525 00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:05,020 around talking with my my Aunt Zona and I said Aunt Zona, what 526 00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:09,570 was this term? That grandma used to use when 527 00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:12,530 she said we're acting silly and crazy and and and I told her 528 00:32:12,530 --> 00:32:16,330 what it was and because I said I've been studying the the 529 00:32:16,330 --> 00:32:20,050 Serbocroatian language and I can't find it anywhere, she 530 00:32:20,050 --> 00:32:25,010 said, Oh well, in the village they were from there was a man 531 00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:30,530 who would be considered slow or partially retarded and he would 532 00:32:30,530 --> 00:32:34,050 just do silly things and his name was Tode Bennister. 533 00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:42,450 And so here my whole life I thought that saying you're crazy 534 00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:46,050 in the head, which actually in that language is Lou de Glava 535 00:32:46,810 --> 00:32:50,930 crazy head. And so when I when I found that 536 00:32:50,930 --> 00:32:52,330 out, I said where did this come from? 537 00:32:52,490 --> 00:32:56,010 Well, my whole life I'm thinking that crazy in the head is told 538 00:32:56,010 --> 00:32:57,650 the benest and it was a guy's name. 539 00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:02,610 So. So there's a lot of that kind of 540 00:33:02,610 --> 00:33:06,770 stuff that we miss because. We weren't walking those roads. 541 00:33:06,770 --> 00:33:08,690 We didn't understand the customs. 542 00:33:09,050 --> 00:33:12,210 But let me tell you something. They also knew back in the times 543 00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:15,650 of Christ, they also knew the Book of Enoch very well. 544 00:33:16,010 --> 00:33:19,210 They knew about the pantheon of gods and what they were really 545 00:33:19,210 --> 00:33:23,250 doing instead of what our scientists today say they did. 546 00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:27,450 And so, so there's a, you know, if we want to open up a whole 547 00:33:27,450 --> 00:33:30,450 can of worms, we can just go on and on and on and on. 548 00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:33,770 But the bottom line is, is that most of those things? 549 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:37,350 Even if they have validity. So I'm not going to really 550 00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:41,110 comment on that part much. One way or another are all 551 00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:43,910 distractions. Because if we come up and 552 00:33:43,910 --> 00:33:48,230 realize who we are as sons and daughters of the living king, 553 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:51,190 and we start doing the inner work that it takes to get the 554 00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:54,870 filters and static out of the way in, the Lord of Glory comes 555 00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:58,110 in and starts flowing through us, it's going to shake the 556 00:33:58,110 --> 00:34:00,670 world up. Exactly. 557 00:34:00,670 --> 00:34:04,370 Wow, that is powerful. And hey, we overcome by the 558 00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:06,570 blood of the Lamb and our testimony. 559 00:34:06,570 --> 00:34:09,570 So if we're focused on anything else other than our testimony, 560 00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:12,090 what God is doing in our lives, how he's working it out, how 561 00:34:12,090 --> 00:34:15,130 we've repented, we're being sanctified, We're coming to the 562 00:34:15,130 --> 00:34:18,449 throne of grace boldly in time of need. 563 00:34:18,449 --> 00:34:23,330 If if our focus is not on that, we're we're subtracted out with 564 00:34:23,370 --> 00:34:25,330 all these other conspiracies and ideas. 565 00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:28,010 And there's a time and a place to talk about this stuff. 566 00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:31,350 I mean obviously here on this show, wide spectrum of different 567 00:34:31,350 --> 00:34:33,429 things that that I've covered over the last couple years, 568 00:34:33,429 --> 00:34:36,790 which is important. But always this is one of the 569 00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:40,949 things I'm always trying to take this point where it's like I 570 00:34:40,949 --> 00:34:44,989 want to express God's glory, his magnificence, who he is. 571 00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:48,790 Not that I have the greatest revelation of that, but but I 572 00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:50,949 have that tugging, that feeling on the inside. 573 00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:55,870 He's so much bigger and so much more powerful than any of us 574 00:34:55,870 --> 00:34:59,520 could imagine. And like LA Marzouli would say, 575 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,760 this is a cosmic chess match and we can't get stuck in our own 576 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,680 little bubble all the time. So great answers there, Doc. 577 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,000 That's phenomenal. Well, hey, I got to be honest 578 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,640 with you. Nobody loves Ancient Aliens more 579 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,760 than me and UFO stories. I mean, I was no, I go back to 580 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,680 the days when Neville Brand was in some show in the 50s where 581 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,320 you could see the little spaceships on a string and. 582 00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:27,190 You know the vampire movies where where you can see the 583 00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:30,870 strings on the bats as they were attacking people, you know? 584 00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:34,350 So I go way back with that stuff but I just happen to know who 585 00:35:34,350 --> 00:35:35,710 they are and where they really come from. 586 00:35:36,430 --> 00:35:39,270 Well and this is what's interesting is, is I did a round 587 00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:43,430 table discussion not too long ago with like Nate from Mufant. 588 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:46,070 He's the president of preventative Measures, I believe 589 00:35:46,070 --> 00:35:49,870 from Mufant with in Canada And there Chuck from fire theft 590 00:35:49,870 --> 00:35:53,800 radio, couple other guys, Enoch, we get together and we're having 591 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,360 this discussion and it's like just the simplicity of what the 592 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,120 word says, right. So this is where, you know, I'll 593 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,280 ask my next question to follow up as soon as I'm done here on 594 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:04,240 angels in the Bible. Right. 595 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,960 We have malach in the Hebrew and anglos in the Greek. 596 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,080 And the word says that angels are they not all ministering 597 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,560 spirits who minister to those who inherit eternity. 598 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,840 There's fallen angels and there's angels that did not 599 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,320 fall. And Angel is a job title. 600 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,380 It's not a description. And this is where it's like if 601 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:24,780 the church, if we were on the cutting edge, right? 602 00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:27,820 Like this is just an introductory reintroductory into 603 00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:30,780 this topic that I've been pushing for quite some time. 604 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:33,060 Read your Bibles, you guys. Let's look at definitions. 605 00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:36,660 Let's get in tune with what the Spirit wants to equip us with so 606 00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:40,860 that we're able to withstand. We can do all we can to stand in 607 00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:45,660 these days to come. And our sonship, our positions 608 00:36:45,660 --> 00:36:51,150 in the Eclaisia are going to very interesting, I must say. 609 00:36:51,150 --> 00:36:54,070 But let me ask you this, Doc. Let's talk a little bit about 610 00:36:54,070 --> 00:36:56,150 that Angel and alien thing, right. 611 00:36:56,150 --> 00:37:00,790 Because aliens, a newer coin term to represent either an 612 00:37:00,790 --> 00:37:04,390 interdimensional or extraterrestrial biological, 613 00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:06,190 right. So let me hear you talk a little 614 00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:07,710 bit about this. Let's talk a little bit about 615 00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:09,630 angels and aliens here for a minute. 616 00:37:10,070 --> 00:37:14,430 So in the area, 50 ones in these different places and you know 617 00:37:14,430 --> 00:37:17,060 they recruit. People that are way above 618 00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:21,060 average intelligence to do specific things for the 619 00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:23,860 government or whoever it really is that does all that stuff. 620 00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:26,260 I mean, I don't really care one way or another about that part 621 00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:28,380 of it. But there's one thing that 622 00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:31,100 they're told that I find to be just fascinating. 623 00:37:32,140 --> 00:37:35,180 They they'll say something like you can talk to these whether 624 00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:40,500 they're Tall Grays, short Grays, medium Grays, tall Nordics. 625 00:37:40,990 --> 00:37:43,790 Other kind of Nordics, I mean, you know, whatever, they all are 626 00:37:44,070 --> 00:37:48,190 reptiles. I don't care if they're real 627 00:37:48,190 --> 00:37:50,110 beings that these people are seeing. 628 00:37:50,110 --> 00:37:51,590 They're obviously seeing something. 629 00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:55,430 They probably could go up if they would be allowed, they 630 00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:58,390 could touch that and it would have some kind of physicality. 631 00:37:59,590 --> 00:38:01,550 But you can talk to them about Buddha. 632 00:38:01,550 --> 00:38:04,790 You can talk to them about Confucius, you can talk to them 633 00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:08,220 about Muhammad. You can talk to them about 634 00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:12,460 boxing and soccer, but you can't mention the name of Jesus. 635 00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:18,620 Now why is that exactly? Okay, that should throw up a red 636 00:38:18,620 --> 00:38:22,500 flag for anybody that's got any reasoning abilities left. 637 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:25,820 If there's only one name that you can't mention, that's a 638 00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:28,460 problem. And it's a problem for them 639 00:38:28,460 --> 00:38:35,420 because they're illegals. Most of those created beings are 640 00:38:35,540 --> 00:38:40,060 were were. Experiments in Science project 641 00:38:40,060 --> 00:38:45,260 by the Enemies camp. Even if man is only here 6000 642 00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:49,780 years, did the enemy fall 6001 years ago? 643 00:38:49,780 --> 00:38:53,700 It could have been in Earth type years 20 billion years ago for 644 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:57,020 all we know. We don't know when that was. 645 00:38:57,220 --> 00:39:00,700 So he's been out doing nefarious things for a long time. 646 00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:03,460 And you say, well why didn't the God of creation stop him? 647 00:39:03,980 --> 00:39:12,660 Well, because God had a plan. He designed everything and 648 00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:17,660 completed it to a certain level because in part of that design 649 00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:24,580 he wanted a family group that would be made in his image who 650 00:39:24,580 --> 00:39:27,980 would go around and complete that design throughout all the 651 00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:32,820 verses, multiverses, realms, dimensions, whatever. 652 00:39:36,110 --> 00:39:38,790 Did he plan on the enemy and his camp falling? 653 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:42,830 I'm sure that he saw it coming because he sees the the end from 654 00:39:42,830 --> 00:39:45,310 the beginning and the beginning and the end, but I'm sure that 655 00:39:45,310 --> 00:39:46,910 he would rather that it didn't happen. 656 00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:52,630 But part of what mankind is supposed to do is undo, not just 657 00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:58,150 on earth but everywhere, all the damage and chaos that Satan and 658 00:39:58,150 --> 00:40:00,390 his group brought into created order. 659 00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:09,140 We are the ones true humans. 100% Humans are the ones that 660 00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:16,220 have a target on their back because we have the ability rod 661 00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:23,380 to carry the full image of the Son of Man in us. 662 00:40:23,420 --> 00:40:29,340 We are designed that way. Now the the the Adam's original 663 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:32,820 creation was made with a corrupted seed or he wouldn't 664 00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:37,490 have been able to fall. But when Jesus rose from the 665 00:40:37,490 --> 00:40:42,450 dead, he became the pure incorruptible seed. 666 00:40:42,450 --> 00:40:46,770 And it is according to that image that the new birth, the 667 00:40:46,770 --> 00:40:51,770 birth from above of water and spirit has been enabled. 668 00:40:52,290 --> 00:40:57,810 Which means that if we will walk in the fullness of that Jesus 669 00:40:57,810 --> 00:41:02,210 himself. Actually, the best way I could 670 00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:07,530 say is takes a layer of himself, brings his throne with him, and 671 00:41:07,530 --> 00:41:11,610 sets it up right smack dab in the middle of our soul, in full 672 00:41:11,610 --> 00:41:15,650 glory and authority. And if we'll do the work like 673 00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:17,810 you said, working out the salvation with fear and 674 00:41:17,810 --> 00:41:19,770 trembling, that's not to stay saved. 675 00:41:20,450 --> 00:41:23,690 That's so that we walk into full sonship because we got to get 676 00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:26,210 rid of the filters and static once. 677 00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:33,470 Once we enable that process, then with his fullness he is 678 00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:37,390 able to begin and thank God it's gradually. 679 00:41:37,830 --> 00:41:43,270 But to to move glory through our soul, Well, through our spirit, 680 00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:45,470 then our soul and then through our body. 681 00:41:45,790 --> 00:41:50,070 To change everything, to create photon shifts, to do all kinds 682 00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:53,470 of things. And just to show you the level 683 00:41:53,470 --> 00:41:58,460 of power, we're all familiar with the the, the biblical 684 00:41:58,580 --> 00:42:02,740 happening that we call a story of Joshua and the children of 685 00:42:02,740 --> 00:42:04,860 Israel marching around the walls of Jericho. 686 00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:09,100 We know that they did it once each day for six days and then 687 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,380 seven times on the 7th day. And then the priest flew the 688 00:42:12,380 --> 00:42:16,340 trump and the walls fell down. Well, I was talking to the Lord 689 00:42:16,340 --> 00:42:20,180 about that one day, and I'm sorry if I offend some people, 690 00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:23,860 that he actually answers me. And because I've learned to hear 691 00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:26,860 his inner voice very clearly, I can actually personally tell the 692 00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:29,380 difference between the voice of the Father, the Son and the Holy 693 00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:31,620 Spirit. So you know, if people are 694 00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:33,580 unhappy with that, I'm really, really sorry. 695 00:42:33,580 --> 00:42:36,380 But I can't. So I'm talking to the father and 696 00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:41,220 he said, son, I said, yes, Sir. He said, do you think when they 697 00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:47,060 blew the trumpets that and sound of the shofars or whatever they 698 00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:50,210 were, that the walls just fell flat down? 699 00:42:50,210 --> 00:42:52,810 I said, well, that's kind of what the story indicates. 700 00:42:52,810 --> 00:42:53,970 He said, well, let me tell you something. 701 00:42:54,690 --> 00:42:58,290 He said it and he said this kind of a little tongue in cheek, but 702 00:42:58,290 --> 00:43:02,090 it's there's great truth in it. He said, Can you imagine having 703 00:43:02,490 --> 00:43:07,330 several million Jewish people being completely quiet, marching 704 00:43:07,330 --> 00:43:11,090 around the whole city? And I said, okay. 705 00:43:11,410 --> 00:43:14,750 Well then I realized he was referring to the fact that a lot 706 00:43:14,750 --> 00:43:16,150 of the Jewish folks like to talk. 707 00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:19,350 Well, a lot of people do, but I think that was the illusion, so 708 00:43:19,590 --> 00:43:22,230 I kind of got a little chuckle out of that, he said. 709 00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:23,950 But let me tell you what was really going on. 710 00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:30,110 He said their level of obedience was so great that frequencies by 711 00:43:30,110 --> 00:43:32,510 my spirit were going into the ground. 712 00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:37,430 And then when those trumpets blew, it set up a massive phone 713 00:43:37,590 --> 00:43:40,910 photon shift and caused an earthquake through through 714 00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:45,280 resonant frequency, he said. Had they not been obedient to 715 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,960 walk around and impart those frequencies in the ground, sure, 716 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,600 I could have done an earthquake, but I I involved them. 717 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,520 I let them be part of the process. 718 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,840 Now how cool is that? Yeah, that's that's amazing. 719 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,640 So, so, so where do the aliens come from? 720 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,440 I do. I do believe that that that 721 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,960 there are. Personally, this is my personal 722 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,010 belief based on the research that I've done. 723 00:44:13,290 --> 00:44:19,330 I do believe that most of the physicalities of what we see are 724 00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:25,290 individuals that are hybrids of some sort with the express 725 00:44:25,290 --> 00:44:28,930 purpose of replacing humanity, because we're the ones that can 726 00:44:28,930 --> 00:44:34,490 bear God's image and they can't. Yeah, I I would say I'm on that 727 00:44:34,490 --> 00:44:38,210 same track. You know, there there's the term 728 00:44:38,210 --> 00:44:41,170 meat suits I've heard. But obviously we we're dealing 729 00:44:41,170 --> 00:44:45,290 with spiritual entities and the frequency and vibration 730 00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:50,250 conversation, man, that is, yeah, we we have, we have quite 731 00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:54,010 some time over the next couple appearances where I definitely 732 00:44:54,010 --> 00:44:58,450 want to deep dive into that. But let let me just fire my next 733 00:44:58,450 --> 00:45:02,210 question here, Okay. All right. 734 00:45:02,210 --> 00:45:06,090 So I want actually I want to get into your book a little bit. 735 00:45:06,430 --> 00:45:10,350 You know this voice analysis, voice print technology, and it's 736 00:45:10,350 --> 00:45:14,270 this valuable tool for assessing the human experience on multiple 737 00:45:14,270 --> 00:45:17,150 different levels. It's amazing. 738 00:45:17,550 --> 00:45:20,870 It's amazing. Give us an overview about your 739 00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:22,950 book. Let's dive into the voice 740 00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:27,030 analysis, technology, what you're doing with the health and 741 00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:29,630 even the spiritual assessments there. 742 00:45:29,790 --> 00:45:31,990 Let's get familiarized with that Okay. 743 00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:36,450 So if we kind of pick up on, you know, the the little story about 744 00:45:36,450 --> 00:45:40,730 myself earlier, one of the what I did is I became proficient in 745 00:45:41,210 --> 00:45:46,170 a technique called contact reflex analysis, which in most 746 00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:51,130 cases is used by chiropractors. And they match the nutrition up 747 00:45:51,130 --> 00:45:55,210 with what they find when they're testing people through a they 748 00:45:55,210 --> 00:45:59,010 use we use the Meridian system of the body, not just applied 749 00:45:59,010 --> 00:46:01,810 kinesiology, which is similar but different. 750 00:46:02,330 --> 00:46:04,730 We use the meridians and if there's a hot spot in a 751 00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:07,570 particular area, we're able to trace back through the systems 752 00:46:07,570 --> 00:46:10,330 and see you know, somebody complaints, let's say their calf 753 00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:13,490 is hurting and we trace through the systems of the body and we 754 00:46:13,490 --> 00:46:16,850 find out that they've got a stone caught in their bile duct 755 00:46:16,850 --> 00:46:19,170 of their liver. And so you know we can trace 756 00:46:19,170 --> 00:46:22,650 through all that kind of stuff and but that's somebody being in 757 00:46:22,650 --> 00:46:27,290 front of me. So I got I've been doing about 758 00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:31,930 10 years and and I and I believe it had reached a quite a level 759 00:46:31,930 --> 00:46:34,930 of proficiency because unlike the chiropractors that are still 760 00:46:34,930 --> 00:46:38,650 focusing on building their particular practices which they 761 00:46:38,650 --> 00:46:42,930 should do with adjustments and different you know physiotherapy 762 00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:47,410 or whatever that they do they do All I had was the nutritional 763 00:46:47,410 --> 00:46:50,610 part. So one of my sons and I, we went 764 00:46:50,610 --> 00:46:54,320 to just health food store after health food store and we test 765 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,360 and we took notes and we rated different products and how they 766 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,160 would work against this problem and that problem, this problem. 767 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,960 So I got even better and more knowledgeable than the majority 768 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,560 of the people that would know this technique. 769 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,000 Not everyone, but probably 8090% just because I was doing the 770 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,880 nutritional part. So I went to a conference that 771 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:22,450 was put on by Doctor Versenal in Atlanta some years ago and this 772 00:47:22,450 --> 00:47:25,570 lady comes up to me and just out of the blue and she looks at me 773 00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:29,570 and because Doctor Versenthal had asked me to open the the 774 00:47:29,570 --> 00:47:34,610 session and because in those days they used VCR tapes. 775 00:47:34,610 --> 00:47:38,570 Remember the good old VCR tapes? Yes, I do okay. 776 00:47:39,010 --> 00:47:43,210 And so she comes up at our first break and she said, you know, 777 00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:48,330 you can hear people's voices and then you can be tested in their 778 00:47:48,330 --> 00:47:51,280 place. I said, oh, really? 779 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,440 I said, I'm going to test that out. 780 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,520 Well, a few weeks later, the church group had got about 50 781 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:03,200 people together that all wanted evaluations, and I had their 782 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,400 names and phone numbers. So I thought, well, what would 783 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,760 it hurt me? Because I have my sheets printed 784 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:13,400 out, if I just print 50 more and I call each one of them, maybe 785 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,800 find out a little bit about what they're wanting to work on. 786 00:48:17,650 --> 00:48:21,170 And I got a hold of all 50. Did the tests before I went, 787 00:48:22,810 --> 00:48:27,370 left them at home, went there, did them all brought their 788 00:48:27,370 --> 00:48:30,650 paperwork back and compared them and they were literally 100% the 789 00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:39,570 same and and so I knew then at that point that it worked. 790 00:48:41,370 --> 00:48:45,720 What I didn't know and I'll get into the sonship thing because 791 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,200 you'll see how it kind of fits into the storyline here in a 792 00:48:49,200 --> 00:49:00,640 minute is when you have that voice print it can also tell you 793 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:06,800 other information So it's not completely unlike maybe taking a 794 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,360 lie detector test with one big difference. 795 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,630 There are those that can fool maybe the the person that's 796 00:49:15,710 --> 00:49:18,670 administering the lie detector test, if they're really well 797 00:49:18,670 --> 00:49:22,110 trained. With this, it doesn't matter if 798 00:49:22,110 --> 00:49:25,150 you change your voice, you speak high, you speak low. 799 00:49:25,150 --> 00:49:28,670 As long as you don't use one of those voice changing modulators, 800 00:49:30,590 --> 00:49:33,870 I can, it's not going to do anything to change the way the 801 00:49:33,870 --> 00:49:37,670 test is going to come out. The test has nothing to do with 802 00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:40,870 whether I like the person or not, whether I think they have 803 00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:44,930 this or that. It's pure frequency science, 804 00:49:45,370 --> 00:49:48,010 Okay. And I think we've all matured 805 00:49:48,010 --> 00:49:53,690 enough now that compared to the, you know, the 90s when 806 00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:56,970 everything was called New Age, that we don't need to call that 807 00:49:56,970 --> 00:50:00,170 New age anymore because science has grown up a little bit. 808 00:50:01,950 --> 00:50:04,590 And it's kind of funny to me too because a lot of the folks 809 00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:07,350 that'll name something New Age, I've gotten to the point now 810 00:50:07,350 --> 00:50:09,590 where I say, OK, so you're a New Age expert. 811 00:50:09,590 --> 00:50:11,990 Let me tell what are your credentials in the new age? 812 00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:15,470 Well, I just know that, you know, if it's something we can't 813 00:50:15,470 --> 00:50:18,510 see, it's got to be New Age. I said so, OK, I I see where 814 00:50:18,510 --> 00:50:22,830 you're coming from next. So I mean, sorry, I just don't 815 00:50:22,830 --> 00:50:25,430 have time for that that anymore. You know, I've, I've been 816 00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:28,350 through all of that and and I don't have to explain this to 817 00:50:28,350 --> 00:50:33,900 anybody that way. OK so so it turns out that so 818 00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:39,460 I'm doing the nutritional things well about four years ago, which 819 00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:43,180 would have been 2019, my wife and I were it was February and 820 00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:50,940 her middle son who worked for one of the subsidiaries of 821 00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:56,380 Verizon Wireless just got a promotion to where he was going 822 00:50:56,380 --> 00:51:01,560 to become part over owner of a franchise in the Indianapolis IN 823 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,600 area. And they moved, they only lived 824 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,360 three houses down from us. And so he, he left very quickly 825 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,360 and went up there. And then his family followed in 826 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,200 May and we were sitting around then and we looked at each 827 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,760 other. We're sitting on our front porch 828 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,000 and the weather was finally getting nice up in Louisville 829 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,200 and said we don't have any reason to stay here anymore. 830 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,120 Where should we move? So we chose the Gulf Shores of 831 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,740 Alabama because we figured that if we got a place down here that 832 00:51:28,820 --> 00:51:31,220 everybody would come see us. And that has turned out to be 833 00:51:31,220 --> 00:51:36,900 true. So then we moved down here in 834 00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:41,180 the end of July of 2019 and of course, you know, I'm already 835 00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:43,860 well into my 60s and I'm thinking, oh man, there's so 836 00:51:43,860 --> 00:51:48,460 many cool golf courses around. And and Brother John 837 00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:53,860 Kilpatrick's got a church up in Daphne, AL, which is like, you 838 00:51:53,860 --> 00:51:56,820 know, 18 miles from where we live, takes 30 minutes to get 839 00:51:56,820 --> 00:51:59,060 there because it's kind of country, roadish type, that 840 00:51:59,060 --> 00:52:01,540 stuff. But he's the guy that was the 841 00:52:01,540 --> 00:52:05,100 head pastor of the Pensacola revival in the 90s, for those 842 00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:09,620 people who remember that. And so I thought, man, life's 843 00:52:09,620 --> 00:52:12,700 going to be good. Play golf, mow my lawn, Maybe a 844 00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:14,620 family members need a little bit of help. 845 00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,020 Well, one of the first Sundays we get there, they're having one 846 00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:22,560 of those old timey services that I just love, where the glory is 847 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,200 just everywhere and the power of God is everywhere. 848 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,280 And so he starts praying for people and my wife says, hey, 849 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,640 you've never had brother John pray for you, see if, see if he 850 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,560 won't come up to you. Well, there's people just 851 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,960 mobbing him and I thought, yeah, right, I'm going to have any 852 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,040 chance of getting close. He walks right up to me. 853 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:45,280 Now, I'm not a small guy, I'm. I weigh about £180, but I'm a 854 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,540 little over 6 feet tall, so he's about the same size, but he's a 855 00:52:49,540 --> 00:52:52,500 big guy and he's got a way bigger hand than I do. 856 00:52:53,260 --> 00:52:56,300 He puts his mint right on top of my head and it was like he was 857 00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:59,260 palm on a basketball or something, but it was so loud he 858 00:52:59,260 --> 00:53:04,660 pulls my ear up to his mouth. Basically it's his brother. 859 00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:08,780 You, you are following the will of the Lord. 860 00:53:08,780 --> 00:53:11,460 It was God that told you to move down to this area. 861 00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:13,900 But here's what he's also saying to you. 862 00:53:14,740 --> 00:53:18,390 You thought you were going to retire, The Lord says. 863 00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:21,430 You're going to be busier now and have more revelation and 864 00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:24,390 more insight into things than you've ever had in your entire 865 00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:26,070 life. All in this season. 866 00:53:27,070 --> 00:53:29,870 And then, thankfully, I was close to some chairs because I 867 00:53:29,870 --> 00:53:31,590 don't usually get slain in the Spirit. 868 00:53:31,590 --> 00:53:33,790 And if people don't know what that term means, it means you 869 00:53:33,790 --> 00:53:36,550 fall down because the power of God's so heavy you can't stand 870 00:53:36,550 --> 00:53:39,030 up. So I just kind of politely sat 871 00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:43,230 down because usually I don't get slain in the spirit and I'm 872 00:53:43,390 --> 00:53:47,610 contemplating it and then I make my way back to and because I got 873 00:53:47,610 --> 00:53:51,090 to tell this whole story because it's really hilarious, you know. 874 00:53:51,090 --> 00:53:54,250 So I'm thinking, oh man, am I ever going to go down, you know, 875 00:53:54,250 --> 00:53:55,890 I mean, because. But I felt the power. 876 00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:59,890 It was like different. It was like this heavy Kebode 877 00:54:00,330 --> 00:54:02,090 type thing. But I didn't go down. 878 00:54:02,690 --> 00:54:05,250 So my wife and I we make our way out to the car and we decide to 879 00:54:05,250 --> 00:54:10,280 eat lunch a little bit down the road and so it had a gravel 880 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,360 driveway and and so I dropped her off at the door and I pull 881 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,760 over and find a parking spot and I get out and I collapse face 882 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,040 down into the ground onto the gravel. 883 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:23,640 The power of God hit me and I laid there for about 5 minutes 884 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,240 until I could finally get myself back up. 885 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,720 There wasn't anything wrong with me. 886 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,920 My heart didn't stop. The power of God decides to hit 887 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,840 me in a parking lot and put me flat on my face just to show me 888 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,280 who he really was. And I said okay Lord, I get the 889 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,680 message. I see what you're saying. 890 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,120 Yes, I'm going to answer this. So. 891 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,320 So that's the story of how all of the sudden I said okay, So 892 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,160 what do we do? Well, the next step was, is that 893 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,960 my wife who is got a way, way better way with words than I 894 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,960 ever will. And she's a tremendous writer as 895 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,800 well. And she had said something on 896 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:08,160 Facebook and got banned and she wanted to sell something. 897 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,600 She said, can I open up a Facebook account for you? 898 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,080 Because I need to sell this. I said yeah, okay. 899 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,520 Well, when she got unbanned, she turns the thing back over to me 900 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,640 because it was in my name and I thought, well, I'll just start 901 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,880 reaching out to some Christian people that I know here or 902 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,680 there. Well, to make a very Long story 903 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,040 short, after a few months, a lot of the folks started asking me, 904 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,520 hey, do you still do the alternative medicine, 905 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,600 nutritional thing? You know, whatever you call. 906 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,240 And I said, sure, yeah, I can test you. 907 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,480 Well, then a little more time goes by and I'm testing a few 908 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,480 people here, a few people there. And they said, well, listen, 909 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,200 since the voice works for our nutrition, could you come up 910 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,200 with some kind of a sheet that tells us how we're doing with 911 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,960 our walk as we're engaging heaven? 912 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,240 OK. So I said, well, I'll see. 913 00:55:56,980 --> 00:55:58,340 And sure enough the Lord gave me. 914 00:55:58,340 --> 00:56:00,820 So that's the one. That one I did for you is called 915 00:56:00,820 --> 00:56:05,460 the spiritual assessment because because the the nutritional one 916 00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:08,700 is as detailed as what most functional medicine doctors are 917 00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:13,460 going to do, even after hundreds and hundreds of dollars of 918 00:56:13,460 --> 00:56:15,620 tests. But it's all your body's energy 919 00:56:15,620 --> 00:56:19,700 giving me the the really true baseline, even better than many 920 00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:22,920 of the tests that exist today. But with the spiritual 921 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,680 assessment rod, as as you might recall, we can actually measure 922 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,520 on a scale of zero to 10, with 10 being the best. 923 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,680 How you how your engagement with the Lord is going, are you 924 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,240 engaging well? Is your relationship well? 925 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,440 How good is your body and soul in your spirit getting along? 926 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,960 And if there's filters and static, it's going to show up in 927 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,200 the numbers. Make sense? 928 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,560 Yeah, absolutely. Okay. 929 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,720 So then we go through all kinds of other things. 930 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:53,160 So then because I'm testing more and more people and I'm getting 931 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,720 pretty busy at this time and people are tickled because they 932 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:58,840 know, hey, wait a minute, I need to spend a little bit more time 933 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,480 in the river of life, the fire and the glories kind of dipped a 934 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,520 little low. Let me see if I can do an 935 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,320 engagement. So you know, they're using this 936 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,160 in a proper way, not for us to compare against each other, but 937 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,640 just so that they know when they have their special times with 938 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,200 the Lord that they know where to go. 939 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,360 So let's focus on the weak things and bring the whole, the 940 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,840 whole thing up to a higher level. 941 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,360 So I'm sitting out on my back screened in porch went and I 942 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,240 said, Lord, I said, you know, you and I both know things have 943 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,080 changed since the 90s and early 2000s and people are better when 944 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,600 they're on the nutrition and most of them do pretty good. 945 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,480 But just seems like there's stuff running in the background 946 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:40,120 that I never used to know about. Now, maybe as our conversations, 947 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,800 you don't get a little bit more in depth and one or two down the 948 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,080 road or whatever, but one of the tests that I do is I can 949 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,030 actually test and see if somebody, if they see better or 950 00:57:50,030 --> 00:57:52,630 if they know better in how they relate with the Lord. 951 00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:54,790 So some people just see things in the spirit realm. 952 00:57:54,790 --> 00:57:56,750 I'm not one of those. I'm more of a knower. 953 00:57:57,790 --> 00:58:00,950 So it's kind of humorous that being a knower, I'm sitting out 954 00:58:00,950 --> 00:58:03,390 and I'm just saying, you know, Lord, I'm just, you know, I'm 955 00:58:03,390 --> 00:58:06,270 just going to hear, just to talk to you, you know, And if you can 956 00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:10,590 tell me anything, I'd like to kind of know what's going on. 957 00:58:11,230 --> 00:58:15,850 Well, instead of talking to me that way, right in front of me 958 00:58:15,850 --> 00:58:21,570 is a six foot tall, roughly my size, flaming outline of a 959 00:58:21,570 --> 00:58:26,210 person and I go, okay, What is that? 960 00:58:26,210 --> 00:58:29,570 He said, that's your soul. I said, well, what do you have 961 00:58:29,570 --> 00:58:31,890 to tell me about the soul? He said, well, first of all, the 962 00:58:31,890 --> 00:58:35,050 soul doesn't function and hardly do anything the way that I 963 00:58:35,050 --> 00:58:36,890 designed it. And I'm going to reveal to you 964 00:58:36,890 --> 00:58:40,010 over time what that is. And we're still working on that, 965 00:58:40,010 --> 00:58:43,030 but we've gotten a long way. But then he said there's nine 966 00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:47,750 main points on your body that if you've had a very deep trauma 967 00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:50,270 that actually crosses the line and it's not just a 968 00:58:50,270 --> 00:58:52,870 disappointment, it's a real trauma. 969 00:58:53,310 --> 00:58:56,510 This energy is going to hide behind one of nine points on the 970 00:58:56,510 --> 00:58:58,710 body. And I wanted you to see that 971 00:58:58,710 --> 00:59:02,510 that energy attaches itself to this. 972 00:59:02,670 --> 00:59:04,310 This is what your soul looks like. 973 00:59:04,990 --> 00:59:09,530 So he gave me those nine points and I can now find if there's 974 00:59:09,530 --> 00:59:12,170 any trapped energies. And to me they look like they're 975 00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:16,970 about the size of a tennis ball behind either the thyroid, the 976 00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:20,650 heart, the stomach, the liver, the large intestines, the right 977 00:59:20,650 --> 00:59:26,050 so as which is down by your appendix, roughly speaking the 978 00:59:26,050 --> 00:59:27,770 lungs, the kidneys and the spleen. 979 00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:33,530 And then he gave me away, using the illustration of the the 980 00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:36,930 children of Israel going around the walls of Jericho on how to 981 00:59:36,930 --> 00:59:39,560 use angelic help to get rid of those. 982 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,720 So I'm going, OK, that's really cool. 983 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:51,560 Well, then I started getting connected with several groups 984 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,120 that do deliverance and inner healing. 985 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,040 And and you know, because obviously it makes sense that 986 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,560 over time the circle gets a little bit wider and wider 987 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,440 because you're running into more people and hopefully if people 988 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,400 are satisfied, they're going to tell their friends. 989 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,440 And it takes time, but it builds. 990 01:00:07,370 --> 01:00:11,650 Well, the people started asking me, okay, you can do nutritional 991 01:00:11,650 --> 01:00:14,250 stuff with person specific accuracy. 992 01:00:14,850 --> 01:00:17,170 You can do that spiritual assessment. 993 01:00:17,170 --> 01:00:19,650 You can find out if there's trapped energy in the soul. 994 01:00:19,770 --> 01:00:22,770 Well, what about other things? I said what do you mean? 995 01:00:22,770 --> 01:00:27,650 Well, when we do Deliverance, we need to know things like is 996 01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:30,370 there a bad timeline attached to somebody? 997 01:00:31,330 --> 01:00:35,130 It is part of their being fractured or split in any way. 998 01:00:36,330 --> 01:00:39,450 Are there regions of captivity? Are there soul ties? 999 01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:43,610 On and on this thing goes hidden nuptials, which is like a 1000 01:00:43,610 --> 01:00:49,530 marriage contract, say to make the Masonic order or slavery for 1001 01:00:49,530 --> 01:00:53,170 some of our folks that were either indentured servants or 1002 01:00:53,170 --> 01:00:57,010 slaves at some point. And on and on it goes. 1003 01:00:58,250 --> 01:01:02,210 Well sure enough I found out I could test for all of that. 1004 01:01:03,290 --> 01:01:08,100 So I've got this group of people and I'm hearing common 1005 01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:11,260 discussions across the board because and I don't really want 1006 01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:13,700 to mention any names, but there's a lot of really 1007 01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:17,540 wonderful ministries out there that are writing great helpful 1008 01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:22,380 books and workbooks for people. So you know, you know, I I 1009 01:01:22,380 --> 01:01:25,060 highly, I could highly recommend, but I'm I'm not going 1010 01:01:25,060 --> 01:01:27,380 to mention any names because when you start doing that, then 1011 01:01:27,380 --> 01:01:29,420 you're going to leave somebody who's really good out and then 1012 01:01:29,420 --> 01:01:32,780 they get mad at you, you know, so you know how that goes. 1013 01:01:33,740 --> 01:01:39,380 So, so when I look across the scope of YouTube and and the 1014 01:01:39,820 --> 01:01:43,180 what's it Patreon and you know all the different ones and all 1015 01:01:43,180 --> 01:01:46,300 these different people that are ministering and you know what's 1016 01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:48,540 available on Amazon Kindle and all this. 1017 01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:54,860 One thing I didn't really see was a book that and and I'm 1018 01:01:54,860 --> 01:01:57,540 saying this tongue in cheek so if somebody's just tuning in 1019 01:01:57,580 --> 01:01:59,820 this is I'm going to just set you up. 1020 01:01:59,820 --> 01:02:02,540 This is kind of a joke about what I'm going to say here in a 1021 01:02:02,540 --> 01:02:05,080 minute. But basically I saw that there 1022 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,800 was a need for a book that would be kind of like Sonship for 1023 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,920 Dummies, of which I included myself into that Okay. 1024 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,880 So I started seeking the Lord because again, a lot of my 1025 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,360 clients were saying, well, you know, I'm doing good here, but 1026 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,920 I'm a little light here. I realized, Rod, that a lot of 1027 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,200 people, especially if they were they, they just had, were so 1028 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,960 hungry for God and they were coming out of the Baptist 1029 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,640 movement or the Methodist movement or Lutherans. 1030 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,800 They didn't have anywhere to go to give them the verbiage and 1031 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,280 the anchors to even understand what we were doing. 1032 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,720 Because, you know, they're hearing people like us go, okay, 1033 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,640 did you land your scroll and did you do this and did you do that? 1034 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,280 And it's like a different language to them. 1035 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,640 So I wrote the book Moving Towards Sonship, which by the 1036 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,920 way is available not on Kindle but just like Amazon. 1037 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,400 When you order like a car tire or something like that, you can 1038 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,520 you can write in Moving Towards Sonship by Doctor Robert Rodich 1039 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,480 and it'll come up. I think it's 25 bucks or 1040 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,760 something, but it's got a nice workbook in the back too. 1041 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,960 So. But anyway, so the the Lord just 1042 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,600 started giving me these downloads. 1043 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,470 And finally one day I got them all out and I said, well, what 1044 01:03:17,470 --> 01:03:19,670 am I going to do with these? And when I laid them together, 1045 01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:24,430 they were like a manuscript. So I submitted them to a good 1046 01:03:24,430 --> 01:03:26,510 friend of mine, Doctor Ron Horner. 1047 01:03:26,510 --> 01:03:29,670 And he said, Oh my gosh, man, this is a book. 1048 01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:31,470 You just need to sit down and put it together. 1049 01:03:31,470 --> 01:03:34,950 So I did, and that became the book moving towards Sonship. 1050 01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:41,750 So that is literally the entire story of how a guy that was a 1051 01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:46,090 pastor for over 30 years with the Assemblies of God and if you 1052 01:03:46,090 --> 01:03:51,730 know about the assemblies, even a regional presbyter and who 1053 01:03:51,970 --> 01:03:57,290 needed a way to make a living, who moved into Wellness to help 1054 01:03:57,290 --> 01:04:00,010 people out, who for some reason weren't being healed, which it 1055 01:04:00,010 --> 01:04:04,010 did help him out. And then the Lord said that same 1056 01:04:04,010 --> 01:04:06,690 technique that you learn can do all this other stuff. 1057 01:04:07,130 --> 01:04:12,940 And then now, understanding all of those principles, he's really 1058 01:04:12,940 --> 01:04:16,660 cracking the nut of Daniel open to us. 1059 01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:20,100 So we're understanding how the great inner workings of 1060 01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:23,620 relationship work, so that the level of power that is going to 1061 01:04:23,620 --> 01:04:26,940 be released on planet Earth is just going to be beyond belief, 1062 01:04:27,180 --> 01:04:29,780 even though we all think the Rapture might happen day after 1063 01:04:29,780 --> 01:04:33,700 tomorrow. I am occupying right. 1064 01:04:33,940 --> 01:04:38,900 We're called to occupy Exactly. And what you're sharing is. 1065 01:04:39,490 --> 01:04:42,250 Very important. And for the audience, it will 1066 01:04:42,250 --> 01:04:47,330 make sense as time goes on. So let me follow up with a 1067 01:04:47,330 --> 01:04:48,690 couple questions here. Okay. 1068 01:04:50,130 --> 01:04:53,210 So I'd like to start with this one. 1069 01:04:53,210 --> 01:04:58,090 What is one of the most common things that you find among all 1070 01:04:58,090 --> 01:05:04,170 of your work with people using this voice analytic technology? 1071 01:05:04,170 --> 01:05:06,850 Is there kind of like a standard across the board? 1072 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:13,880 Issue that shows up, are you talking about if I did say 1073 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,640 something on the nutritional test because there's like you 1074 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,800 know, tons and tons of things that I cover, you know, is there 1075 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,760 maybe 1 commonality that maybe 70% of the people need to work 1076 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,000 on their adrenal function or something like that, is that? 1077 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,320 What exactly? And let me frame it like this, 1078 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:30,960 right? So even in the beginning of this 1079 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,640 episode, we talked a little bit about. 1080 01:05:33,070 --> 01:05:35,990 The stuff that's being sprayed in the air in the foods, right, 1081 01:05:36,070 --> 01:05:41,070 We know that these things are taking place and also for like 1082 01:05:41,070 --> 01:05:44,390 the spiritual end of things. So what I've been developing and 1083 01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:48,710 just kind of looking at, being inspired by many others and I 1084 01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:51,630 won't name drop but I've been talking about this more recent 1085 01:05:51,630 --> 01:05:54,270 than not, is what I'm considering to be a phase one 1086 01:05:54,750 --> 01:05:58,590 level 1 satanic ritual abuse and I believe through just the 1087 01:05:58,590 --> 01:06:01,990 broadband of frequency of the technology of this day and age. 1088 01:06:02,420 --> 01:06:05,260 The subliminal contacting, right, Like as in the flashing 1089 01:06:05,260 --> 01:06:08,660 billboards, we have the music, we have the commercials, we have 1090 01:06:08,660 --> 01:06:11,780 the frequencies and vibrations going out of all of these 1091 01:06:11,780 --> 01:06:15,300 different, you know, megasystems all the way down to the little 1092 01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:20,500 tiny computer in your pocket. And I am believing more and more 1093 01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:23,340 that people are subjected to this, what I'm considering to be 1094 01:06:23,340 --> 01:06:26,620 a level 1 satanic ritual abuse. Now there's many levels. 1095 01:06:26,620 --> 01:06:29,340 It goes deeper. I've had some people on the show 1096 01:06:29,340 --> 01:06:32,980 and I've talked off air with many people about some very deep 1097 01:06:33,020 --> 01:06:36,140 and particular dark things that happen within that realm. 1098 01:06:36,140 --> 01:06:39,660 But I believe we're all subject to this in this world of 1099 01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:41,820 technology. So when it comes to like the 1100 01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:45,700 nutritional aspect and maybe even the spiritual, if you're 1101 01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:47,900 comfortable with just kind of giving, well, these are some 1102 01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:51,220 common things that show up. It can help me and the audience 1103 01:06:51,220 --> 01:06:54,420 even connect some puzzle pieces like, Oh well, 5G. 1104 01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:57,530 I mean, we did a symposium doc. A few months back with a bunch 1105 01:06:57,530 --> 01:07:01,330 of researchers and we were reading just the list of things 1106 01:07:02,170 --> 01:07:06,330 that are medically determined from these from frequencies of 1107 01:07:07,090 --> 01:07:11,170 industrial equipment all the way down to cell phones, what can 1108 01:07:11,170 --> 01:07:14,290 transpire to people that are sensitive to electromagnetic 1109 01:07:14,290 --> 01:07:16,450 frequency. And it's like 99 problems. 1110 01:07:17,410 --> 01:07:21,890 Well, Oh my gosh, one. And you only want to do 2 more 1111 01:07:21,890 --> 01:07:25,750 shows. Probably be more than that. 1112 01:07:26,590 --> 01:07:29,910 Well, OK. So listen, I mean, you know so 1113 01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:31,710 many things just fired off on my brain. 1114 01:07:31,710 --> 01:07:34,990 I hope if I can remember two or three of them that will be doing 1115 01:07:34,990 --> 01:07:37,390 good. First of all, you're exactly 1116 01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:40,670 right. There are all kinds of things 1117 01:07:40,670 --> 01:07:43,870 and if you want to call it level one that's that's that's fine 1118 01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:47,230 that we're just facing on the everyday, OK. 1119 01:07:47,230 --> 01:07:54,980 So everything that we're around, Wi-Fi, 4G5G, radio signals, I 1120 01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:58,820 mean who says that they can't do something with AM signals if 1121 01:07:58,820 --> 01:08:01,620 they wanted to or FM signals, those those have been going 1122 01:08:01,620 --> 01:08:06,300 through us our whole lives. The content that is in the TV 1123 01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:10,340 shows that that we don't know if there's some kind of we used to 1124 01:08:10,340 --> 01:08:13,420 call it back masking, you know in the old days, you know, you 1125 01:08:13,420 --> 01:08:15,740 know with the The Beatles record going backwards. 1126 01:08:15,740 --> 01:08:18,260 Turn me on, dead man. You know, when it was, you know, 1127 01:08:18,859 --> 01:08:21,590 that kind of thing, you know, then we found out that the movie 1128 01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:23,830 theater, they were flashing drink Coke and then half the 1129 01:08:23,830 --> 01:08:25,710 audience gets up. And I wasn't one of those. 1130 01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:28,350 So apparently my mind didn't work that fast or something. 1131 01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:29,670 But. And then everybody gets up and 1132 01:08:29,670 --> 01:08:31,510 they go drink Coke. So yeah, I mean we've been 1133 01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:33,470 subject to this for a long, long time. 1134 01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:38,910 But again, let's keep it in focus to the point of why are 1135 01:08:38,910 --> 01:08:44,189 they doing it? Because true human beings were 1136 01:08:44,189 --> 01:08:49,189 made in the image of God, can be born again in the image of God. 1137 01:08:50,050 --> 01:08:52,490 Which, by the way, that's why Jesus is the only way. 1138 01:08:54,490 --> 01:08:59,090 This transaction and this transition that needs to take 1139 01:08:59,090 --> 01:09:02,170 place from the old nature to the new cannot be activated through 1140 01:09:02,210 --> 01:09:05,810 any other religious system, even Christianity. 1141 01:09:05,810 --> 01:09:08,609 If it if you're not born again, then it's just words. 1142 01:09:10,490 --> 01:09:17,450 So they're after us. So how do they dumbest down with 1143 01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:21,420 frequencies, getting us to be sick all the time? 1144 01:09:22,580 --> 01:09:28,580 But more than that, they try to throw our soul out of balance so 1145 01:09:28,580 --> 01:09:32,300 that there can't be the free flow of God's glory in this fire 1146 01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:36,180 from our spirit through our soul and then released through both 1147 01:09:36,180 --> 01:09:40,340 our words and even through the very cells as they resonate out 1148 01:09:40,340 --> 01:09:50,380 into the world around us. It's not a conspiracy theory to 1149 01:09:50,380 --> 01:09:55,020 say that. Why is high fructose corn syrup 1150 01:09:55,020 --> 01:09:58,940 and everything for Pete's sake? You know, I thought I was 1151 01:09:58,940 --> 01:10:02,140 cheating when I was eating sugar cubes as a kid, you know? 1152 01:10:02,540 --> 01:10:04,540 Well, that's that was real sugar. 1153 01:10:04,660 --> 01:10:07,380 You know, I mean everything, even health foods. 1154 01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:11,260 But here's, here's why. Even the the whole food thing 1155 01:10:11,260 --> 01:10:14,500 and and the stuff that you were referring to is so important. 1156 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,280 A lot of people don't know this. This is pretty basic in in the 1157 01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:23,040 the nutritional field. When you take a supplement it 1158 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,560 gets digested and assuming you have a strong enough digestive 1159 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,680 ability and then it moves into the large intestine, eventually 1160 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:34,560 small intestine first. Whatever's in there, and your 1161 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,680 food for that matter, steak, chicken, broccoli, doesn't 1162 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,840 matter, breaks down. When it breaks down to the level 1163 01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:48,340 that it can actually tell your cells what to do, it breaks down 1164 01:10:48,340 --> 01:10:55,180 to a frequency, OK, so you've got all these cells waiting to 1165 01:10:55,180 --> 01:10:58,580 be told, do this, do that, respond this way, do it this 1166 01:10:58,620 --> 01:11:02,460 way. So what happens if you're used 1167 01:11:02,460 --> 01:11:08,100 to eating, say, corn in the 1940s and you like, you know, 1168 01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,820 because being from Iowa originally, you know, the the 1169 01:11:11,940 --> 01:11:17,620 the corn state, OK, well, it didn't bother people much. 1170 01:11:18,740 --> 01:11:21,180 People used to enjoy it. Couldn't wait for August to roll 1171 01:11:21,180 --> 01:11:22,860 around. Just put some salt and butter on 1172 01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:25,300 that sweet corn. Oh man, I can taste it right now 1173 01:11:25,300 --> 01:11:29,340 just talking about it. But the problem is, is they 1174 01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:31,500 started genetically modifying everything. 1175 01:11:32,940 --> 01:11:37,300 Well, when you genetically modify it and you throw bee 1176 01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:40,660 venom in there just to maybe make it more resistant to a 1177 01:11:40,660 --> 01:11:47,130 certain bug, when it breaks down, it doesn't break down into 1178 01:11:47,130 --> 01:11:51,090 a frequency to help the body heal or respond better. 1179 01:11:52,530 --> 01:11:55,450 Sometimes it's actually a bad frequency. 1180 01:11:57,290 --> 01:12:00,850 And so we're facing that on every level. 1181 01:12:00,850 --> 01:12:04,890 But it's again, it's because they're trying to change our 1182 01:12:04,890 --> 01:12:11,000 image now. We're all aware of everything 1183 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,720 that's gone on the world Healthwise the last two or three 1184 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:20,200 years. There is a reason why this took 1185 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:26,080 place in the 1st place, because there is a group of individuals 1186 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:32,240 whose plan is to push Satan's end game as quickly as possible, 1187 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,440 which if I was Satan knowing that I was already defeated, I 1188 01:12:36,440 --> 01:12:38,520 would try to put it off as long as possible. 1189 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,520 But you know, that's what pride and arrogance does. 1190 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,680 You think you're going to force the hand of somebody. 1191 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,880 So all of the things that were developed to help us cope with 1192 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:56,920 these health challenges actually alter who we are, with the 1193 01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:04,220 eventual goal of altering us so much that we can't even respond 1194 01:13:04,220 --> 01:13:08,580 to the gospel. Now, does that sound anything 1195 01:13:08,580 --> 01:13:11,980 like something The Book of Revelation says those who took 1196 01:13:11,980 --> 01:13:16,420 the mark of the beast, and the reference point is, is they can 1197 01:13:16,420 --> 01:13:19,980 no longer be saved. Well, why can't they be saved? 1198 01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:25,980 Because something was genetically modified. 1199 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,440 So is it possible that some of the things that are being 1200 01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:33,000 inserted to people are being genetically modified with other 1201 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:38,840 than human being, things that would make some people other 1202 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,000 than human? Well, if you're no longer a 1203 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,560 human, you can't accept Christ as Lord and Savior because 1204 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,200 that's the one design that was made from heaven to carry his 1205 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,560 image. So you see where all this stuff 1206 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,680 is going, he said. And if somebody just tuned in 1207 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,240 and they said, Oh my gosh, this is like the worst conspiracy. 1208 01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,000 No, I see it every day. I test it every day. 1209 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,800 I found out what boron could do within the first month of the 1210 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:09,240 recent pandemic. Nobody told me that I figured it 1211 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,680 out on my well, I didn't really. The Lord told me that it short 1212 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,200 circuits a lot of stuff. Just have to know what you're 1213 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,600 doing. So don't everybody go out and 1214 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:23,040 start taking handfuls of boron. But so to your greater point, 1215 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,220 yes, it's real, There's these things going on. 1216 01:14:26,220 --> 01:14:29,100 But we always have to keep in mind that again, I'll say it 1217 01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:33,580 again, I can't say it enough. It's about diminishing us so 1218 01:14:33,580 --> 01:14:37,020 that we do not rise up into the fullness of who we're supposed 1219 01:14:37,020 --> 01:14:43,020 to be, because we've only seen snippets of what the sons and 1220 01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:47,780 daughters of God can be and are going to do in the near future 1221 01:14:48,140 --> 01:14:53,160 throughout history. This is going to be en masse and 1222 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,200 they are absolutely afraid of that. 1223 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,560 And so they're pulling out all stops, They're really afraid of 1224 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,200 us, is what's going on. So I don't know if that answers 1225 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,600 the question or not, but that's that's my take on it. 1226 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:07,960 Yes. And so much more. 1227 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:12,200 So much more and and I feel like there's we could go a lot deeper 1228 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:13,080 even. Oh, sure. 1229 01:15:14,250 --> 01:15:16,010 I mean, some of the greatest feedback. 1230 01:15:16,170 --> 01:15:19,650 Well, I shouldn't say that, but I've had some very interesting 1231 01:15:19,650 --> 01:15:23,090 messages just based on these symposiums that were done over 1232 01:15:23,090 --> 01:15:27,210 the last six or eight months here and people saying, wow, 1233 01:15:27,210 --> 01:15:30,130 that really resonates with me. And what I'm finding is people 1234 01:15:30,130 --> 01:15:33,170 from all different levels of starting to understand the 1235 01:15:33,170 --> 01:15:35,090 reality of the world that we're living in. 1236 01:15:35,500 --> 01:15:36,020 Right. Whatever. 1237 01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:38,900 Wherever they're at, we're trying to meet people where 1238 01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:40,780 they're at. We're trying to declare to them. 1239 01:15:41,020 --> 01:15:43,460 Jesus Christ is Lord, He is Lord of Lords. 1240 01:15:43,460 --> 01:15:47,220 There's one name given under heaven by which we may be saved 1241 01:15:47,220 --> 01:15:52,100 by, but we can't forget verses like be wise as a serpent and as 1242 01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:56,820 harmless as a dove. Or to be aware of the devil's 1243 01:15:57,220 --> 01:15:59,260 strategy and his tactics, I mean. 1244 01:16:00,670 --> 01:16:03,390 The gosh, the serpent was pretty wise. 1245 01:16:03,390 --> 01:16:06,230 It was the wisest all the beast. That's a pretty high command. 1246 01:16:06,270 --> 01:16:08,670 I'm not insinuating on you being close, man. 1247 01:16:08,670 --> 01:16:09,950 That's why I'm doing the podcast. 1248 01:16:09,950 --> 01:16:13,070 It's like, well, but but you saw how wise he was. 1249 01:16:13,070 --> 01:16:16,950 You know, the the temptation was, you know, did God really 1250 01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:18,910 tell you the whole truth? What if there was a whole 1251 01:16:19,550 --> 01:16:22,950 another system of body of knowledge out there that he's 1252 01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:25,350 hiding from you? Why would he do that? 1253 01:16:25,710 --> 01:16:29,410 Well, okay, So now we're going to turn the table because, you 1254 01:16:29,410 --> 01:16:32,530 know, with all this other stuff going on, we're going to say 1255 01:16:32,850 --> 01:16:35,690 okay. So I have creative abilities. 1256 01:16:35,690 --> 01:16:38,970 Is the son as a son of the Most High, I'm going to make a 1257 01:16:38,970 --> 01:16:41,290 heavenly Tesla Dome to walk around in. 1258 01:16:41,290 --> 01:16:46,690 So go ahead, try. I mean, people think, oh man, 1259 01:16:46,690 --> 01:16:48,570 that guy, you know, what is he smoking? 1260 01:16:49,330 --> 01:16:50,770 You know that he's talking that way. 1261 01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:54,450 Wait a minute. We battle not against flesh and 1262 01:16:54,450 --> 01:16:56,890 blood, but against principalities and powers and 1263 01:16:56,890 --> 01:16:58,730 spiritual wickedness in high places. 1264 01:16:59,020 --> 01:17:01,260 Do we think they don't they have technology? 1265 01:17:01,460 --> 01:17:05,740 Why don't we have technology? Well, brother, because you got 1266 01:17:05,740 --> 01:17:09,780 to know that once the gospel was established, we didn't need the 1267 01:17:09,780 --> 01:17:11,660 gifts or the power of God anymore. 1268 01:17:11,940 --> 01:17:13,980 And then I say, well, what have you been smoking? 1269 01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:20,540 And I I would add on and say more and more people slowly are 1270 01:17:20,540 --> 01:17:24,640 coming into the agreement with. The ideas that we are presenting 1271 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,640 from a biblical perspective and being aware of our surroundings, 1272 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,440 calculating out, hey, this is what I have been a victim of, 1273 01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:32,960 right? This is my testimony. 1274 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,600 These things have come against me. 1275 01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,640 I have prayed, I'm fasting, I'm calling out to the name of God. 1276 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:44,120 It is by the power of the Spirit that that God is is going to win 1277 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:48,150 this and. That more and more people are 1278 01:17:48,150 --> 01:17:50,710 coming over into the agreement with episodes like this, with 1279 01:17:50,710 --> 01:17:53,230 this podcast in general. And that's what's exciting about 1280 01:17:53,230 --> 01:17:55,990 this time, because personally, the enemy's trying to destroy my 1281 01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:58,390 life right now. It's it's unbelievable. 1282 01:17:58,790 --> 01:18:01,150 It's unbelievable. It's what's kind of going on. 1283 01:18:01,150 --> 01:18:02,750 And I'm just like, well, I'm not alone. 1284 01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:08,950 I hear tons of people that are walking and saying, hey, we want 1285 01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:12,190 a frontline position here. We want to be a part of the 1286 01:18:12,190 --> 01:18:13,750 Eclaisia. We want to. 1287 01:18:14,580 --> 01:18:18,220 Be plugged into what God is going to do in this generation. 1288 01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:20,220 I want to know what my status is, right? 1289 01:18:21,220 --> 01:18:24,660 Going to church Wednesdays and Sundays has not unlocked the 1290 01:18:24,660 --> 01:18:28,540 revelation of my sonship, right? I've been taught scriptures and 1291 01:18:28,540 --> 01:18:30,660 I've been taught healthy doctrine, but we are called to 1292 01:18:30,660 --> 01:18:32,740 go deeper. Exactly. 1293 01:18:32,900 --> 01:18:35,380 Relationship. It's a relationship. 1294 01:18:35,380 --> 01:18:38,380 I mean this is something where every single day we should be 1295 01:18:39,260 --> 01:18:42,660 literally pressing in and and calling out. 1296 01:18:43,490 --> 01:18:48,450 And a humble, broken, contrary spirit the Lord does not reject. 1297 01:18:48,450 --> 01:18:51,570 So for listeners out there, if you guys find yourself, there's 1298 01:18:51,570 --> 01:18:53,930 a whirlwind around you. There's wars taking place. 1299 01:18:53,930 --> 01:18:56,410 We're not going to get into the rabbit trail of everything going 1300 01:18:56,410 --> 01:18:58,450 wrong, But open up your eyes. It's all happening. 1301 01:18:58,650 --> 01:19:02,130 It's right there. A broken and contrary spirit the 1302 01:19:02,130 --> 01:19:05,650 Lord does not reject. So if you find yourself at that 1303 01:19:05,650 --> 01:19:07,520 place. And you've listened to this 1304 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,160 episode and you've got questions and you're taking this journey 1305 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,160 and you're going, whoa, information overload for some of 1306 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:14,280 you. Other people may be saying, 1307 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,280 yeah, check that box. I understand what's happening 1308 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,400 here. It reaffirmed some things that 1309 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,680 that I've been wrestling with. Well, you know, you asked about 1310 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,000 commonalities and one of the things that I can say is is that 1311 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,160 Jesus made a statement and he said Satan has nothing in me. 1312 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,800 Okay What? And, and and I don't mean to lay 1313 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,670 this like his his condemnation on people because we're all 1314 01:19:37,670 --> 01:19:39,710 growing in this. There's so many different 1315 01:19:39,710 --> 01:19:42,390 levels. But one of the reasons to get my 1316 01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:45,950 book is because it gives you a foundation to work off of. 1317 01:19:45,950 --> 01:19:48,870 It filled the gap because there wasn't one like that out there 1318 01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:52,350 that I was aware of that gave us the terminology and 1319 01:19:52,350 --> 01:19:54,670 understanding. But I repeat over and over in 1320 01:19:54,670 --> 01:19:58,990 the book we cut our teeth on getting rid of the filters and 1321 01:19:58,990 --> 01:20:02,830 static within our self first before we jump out there and 1322 01:20:02,830 --> 01:20:06,010 start doing heavy Kingdom stuff. Because it's in. 1323 01:20:06,570 --> 01:20:09,370 It's kind of like being in a flight simulator over and over 1324 01:20:09,370 --> 01:20:11,170 and over again. And then finally we get a knock 1325 01:20:11,170 --> 01:20:13,530 on the door and said okay, it's time to try a real plane. 1326 01:20:13,530 --> 01:20:17,970 Now Okay, but you've become proficient and we are our own 1327 01:20:17,970 --> 01:20:20,890 flight simulator. And so everybody's had their 1328 01:20:20,890 --> 01:20:26,050 herds, disappointments, you know, family, things passed on 1329 01:20:26,050 --> 01:20:29,610 from generation to generation. We cut our teeth, but we also 1330 01:20:29,610 --> 01:20:34,920 established very powerful abilities as we successfully 1331 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,360 move through one level after another after another, OK. 1332 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:44,240 And when we do that, then there does come a point where we go on 1333 01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,080 the offensive, not just out of our own head, because then we 1334 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,440 just fell back into operating out of our soul. 1335 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:54,560 Because we're led by the Holy Spirit in our spirit to do what 1336 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,520 we see the Father doing daily. And that's our safety net. 1337 01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:01,240 And that's how we stay humble, Because if we don't go outside 1338 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,620 of that, we're never going to do anything on our own out of just 1339 01:21:04,620 --> 01:21:07,700 being mad because something upset us or whatever, because 1340 01:21:07,700 --> 01:21:09,580 then we fall into the enemy's hands. 1341 01:21:09,900 --> 01:21:12,300 But the Lord is training all of us. 1342 01:21:12,620 --> 01:21:15,860 And so in this, when I see the frequencies, when I see all the 1343 01:21:15,860 --> 01:21:18,980 other things, a lot of the same things seem to happen over and 1344 01:21:18,980 --> 01:21:21,460 over again. The liver becomes congested. 1345 01:21:21,700 --> 01:21:24,180 People either get hardening of the arteries or they gain 1346 01:21:24,180 --> 01:21:26,060 weight, Especially around the midsection. 1347 01:21:26,460 --> 01:21:30,330 Most everybody's adrenal glands are shot sometimes it's the 1348 01:21:30,330 --> 01:21:32,490 thyroid. Well, we we know how to match 1349 01:21:32,490 --> 01:21:35,650 supplements at least to get them kind of treading water instead 1350 01:21:35,650 --> 01:21:38,850 of sinking down below. But it's also all the spiritual 1351 01:21:38,850 --> 01:21:41,850 stuff that we need to get going, brother, because if there's a 1352 01:21:41,850 --> 01:21:45,610 real danger and it OK, so I have I I love everyone of my 1353 01:21:45,610 --> 01:21:49,250 grandchildren equally. It's so funny to see how some 1354 01:21:49,250 --> 01:21:52,530 are kind of more quiet and austere and then the other ones 1355 01:21:52,530 --> 01:21:55,290 are just bubbly and funny and it's like they were born that 1356 01:21:55,290 --> 01:21:57,140 way. But I've got one granddaughter 1357 01:21:57,140 --> 01:22:01,140 who is so very precocious, and I believe she's 5 right now and 1358 01:22:01,140 --> 01:22:04,420 she's very smart. I mean, she's one day she, she 1359 01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:07,620 wanted to play a game of war with me, you know, with cards, 1360 01:22:07,620 --> 01:22:10,140 like I had a nine. But she had a Jack. 1361 01:22:10,140 --> 01:22:12,180 And she said she looked at me and she looked at me and she 1362 01:22:12,180 --> 01:22:15,420 said, grandpa, she said, I'm just telling you, you better be 1363 01:22:15,420 --> 01:22:18,780 prepared to lose. I almost always win. 1364 01:22:18,780 --> 01:22:23,380 I said OK, you know, and and guess what? 1365 01:22:23,540 --> 01:22:29,360 She beat me okay, but I'm not going to give that child as 1366 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,800 smart as she is and as precocious as she is, the keys 1367 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,560 to my car. That would be crazy. 1368 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,400 Because knowing her, she might figure out a way to put blocks 1369 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,400 on her feet and decide to go up and down the street. 1370 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,880 Well, that probably wouldn't be safe for everybody. 1371 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:47,680 There's a lot of believers out there. 1372 01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:50,980 Even if you've been in the word a lot, that's a good thing, 1373 01:22:50,980 --> 01:22:52,420 That's fact it's a very good thing. 1374 01:22:52,740 --> 01:22:55,700 But have you engaged with that word until it jumps out at you 1375 01:22:55,700 --> 01:22:59,500 and goes from being logos to Rama, meaning it's alive. 1376 01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:04,620 Has that has that started working in between the layers of 1377 01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:07,620 your body, soul and spirit to bring about changes to form you 1378 01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:10,940 into the image of Christ? So it we don't. 1379 01:23:11,140 --> 01:23:14,300 So one of the things that could be said about the movement that 1380 01:23:14,300 --> 01:23:16,900 I'm a part of is that we have a lot of experiences. 1381 01:23:17,480 --> 01:23:19,920 But I can sit here today and tell you that I didn't ask for 1382 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,400 one of them. They came because of my 1383 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,560 dedication to the Word, because of my knowledge of the Word, and 1384 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,800 because I was pressing into the heart of the Father. 1385 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:33,840 And he just took me there. One day I was having communion 1386 01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,680 and just loving on the Lord Jesus, just thanking him for 1387 01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,600 everything that he did. And he said, hey, you want to go 1388 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,240 to my workshop? And the next thing I know, I'm 1389 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,760 walking around in around in his heavenly workshop. 1390 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,000 Now to put that in perspective, I'm a knower. 1391 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,160 I don't usually see things, but boy did he have a workshop I got 1392 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:58,760 to see that day. Well, the religious purist would 1393 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,760 just have a heart attack. He's saying you can go to 1394 01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,800 Jesus's workshop during communion. 1395 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,680 Well, maybe Jesus wants to take you for a nice walk through a 1396 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:14,080 field and put his arm around you and hug away all the abuse and 1397 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,320 all the times where you were never understood. 1398 01:24:16,810 --> 01:24:19,890 All the times that your heart was absolutely, devastatingly 1399 01:24:19,890 --> 01:24:24,890 broken and during that communion time that he wants to do that. 1400 01:24:25,810 --> 01:24:27,930 Well, first of all, you got to know it's possible. 1401 01:24:28,930 --> 01:24:31,530 But if he did, how would that not be a good thing? 1402 01:24:31,530 --> 01:24:36,330 Rod? This is how we expand. 1403 01:24:38,010 --> 01:24:42,170 It's little me and Big Jesus. And if it's Big Jesus, how about 1404 01:24:42,170 --> 01:24:45,360 letting him really be big instead of just putting him in a 1405 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,800 box and saying, well, you can only come out when I tell you 1406 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,000 that's really what we're doing. If we're buying into the way 1407 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,560 that the world works, heaven works on a completely different 1408 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:01,680 paradigm shift and system of operations than what we do, and 1409 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,800 we are supposed to live in both places at the same time. 1410 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,720 Christ in me. The hope of glory, Yes. 1411 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,440 But I'm also seated with him in heavenly places. 1412 01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:15,080 It's not a metaphor. I'm actually there. 1413 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:21,080 I'm seated inside of him. Oh, brother, you're getting 1414 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,760 weird on us. No, I'm not. 1415 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:27,480 We have. How can Jesus be a million or 50 1416 01:25:27,480 --> 01:25:30,640 million or 100 billion places at the same time? 1417 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,080 Well, what if he gave us four or five layers of our spirit to be 1418 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,600 able to do the same thing? Now the New Agers do that with 1419 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:43,240 their soul, and they stretch that silver strand. 1420 01:25:43,480 --> 01:25:48,400 We don't do that with our soul. We live and move and have our 1421 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,880 being in him, and we operate out of our spirit. 1422 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,760 That's why they're afraid of us. That's where they're trying to 1423 01:25:54,760 --> 01:26:00,600 keep us screwed up. I'm going to have to listen to 1424 01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,960 this on replay a few times myself. 1425 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:04,920 Doc. This is. 1426 01:26:05,970 --> 01:26:07,650 This is what the church needs to hear. 1427 01:26:07,650 --> 01:26:10,130 This is what I need to hear. This is what the listeners need 1428 01:26:10,130 --> 01:26:13,890 to hear. So I I can't, I have more 1429 01:26:13,890 --> 01:26:16,010 questions. We're going to, we're going to 1430 01:26:16,010 --> 01:26:20,450 wind down here and and there's definitely a part 2-3 for. 1431 01:26:20,450 --> 01:26:22,770 I mean they just I I don't see an ending to it. 1432 01:26:23,010 --> 01:26:26,610 You'll just have to be a a, you know, a quarterly or monthly 1433 01:26:26,610 --> 01:26:30,090 guest at this point in time because there's so much, so much 1434 01:26:30,090 --> 01:26:32,490 ground for us to cover and so much already covered. 1435 01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:35,710 Yeah, I'm going to have to marinate in this for a little 1436 01:26:35,710 --> 01:26:37,830 bit, Doc. Well, the I'm open the next few 1437 01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:39,750 Mondays. After that I don't know. 1438 01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:42,790 But you know you just however the Lord leads, brother, I'm 1439 01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:45,030 around if you need me. But Monday's definitely at this 1440 01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:49,310 time or my best time, so. Well, let's let's tell the 1441 01:26:49,310 --> 01:26:50,830 audience where they can find your book. 1442 01:26:50,830 --> 01:26:53,070 Is there a place that you recommend that they purchase 1443 01:26:53,070 --> 01:26:56,550 like Amazon or your website? And I'll also put links in the 1444 01:26:56,670 --> 01:27:00,150 show notes for everybody and then close this out here, give 1445 01:27:00,150 --> 01:27:03,280 us some winding down words. OK Well, Okay. 1446 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:08,040 So my website is actually docroditch.com, so I'm going to 1447 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,400 spell that out. Doc is just short for doctors, 1448 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,880 so it's DOC. And then my last name which is 1449 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:19,800 ROD, as in David ICH Now some people put a K at the end. 1450 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,680 It's not a K, it's an H So it's docroditch.com. 1451 01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:27,000 When you go to my website, there'll be a couple of videos 1452 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:32,470 up and that my web host was gracious to put in, but you'll 1453 01:27:32,470 --> 01:27:35,630 see right away an explanation of what I do. 1454 01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:40,230 For those who want the complete package, because it's split up 1455 01:27:40,230 --> 01:27:44,070 on my website, it's $250 to do the nutritional and then it's 1456 01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:48,670 250 to have the spiritual test. But if they're combined, there's 1457 01:27:48,670 --> 01:27:53,110 $100 discount, so it's 400. There's links there. 1458 01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:56,070 You'll tell me a little bit about yourself, that type of 1459 01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:58,070 thing, because it allows a video. 1460 01:27:58,430 --> 01:28:02,340 I'll get an e-mail. I do use PayPal that way, but 1461 01:28:02,340 --> 01:28:06,500 also on the site is a link that takes you directly to lulu.com 1462 01:28:06,500 --> 01:28:09,260 where you can order. My book not usually takes about 1463 01:28:09,260 --> 01:28:13,140 a week, week and a half and but I recommend it as a reference 1464 01:28:13,140 --> 01:28:16,500 primarily because the Lord gave it to me as a download and I 1465 01:28:16,500 --> 01:28:19,580 still have to refer back to it. So, you know, I'd love to say 1466 01:28:19,580 --> 01:28:22,820 I'm this brilliant, wild and crazy guy like Steve Martin. 1467 01:28:22,820 --> 01:28:26,980 But, you know, I'm just honored that the Lord said, hey, I've 1468 01:28:26,980 --> 01:28:28,500 asked all these other people to do it. 1469 01:28:28,500 --> 01:28:30,700 They didn't do it. There's old Doc, Let's call on 1470 01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:32,220 him. You know, he always says yes. 1471 01:28:32,220 --> 01:28:34,060 So that's that's what heaven did. 1472 01:28:34,620 --> 01:28:38,940 And and so so that's, like I said, Doc, roditch.com. 1473 01:28:38,940 --> 01:28:42,860 Or if you just want it really quick, you just go to Amazon but 1474 01:28:42,860 --> 01:28:45,300 not the Kindle and it's 25 bucks. 1475 01:28:45,380 --> 01:28:47,500 And like I said, it's got the workbook at the end. 1476 01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:52,660 And as far as you know, maybe, maybe I would like to leave the 1477 01:28:52,660 --> 01:28:57,180 folks with a thought. So very often what we're molded 1478 01:28:57,180 --> 01:29:03,380 by in life is people that pass one thing on from one generation 1479 01:29:03,380 --> 01:29:07,900 to another. However, because of the severity 1480 01:29:07,900 --> 01:29:11,300 of the battle that is really going on against those that call 1481 01:29:11,300 --> 01:29:18,940 upon the name of the true Lord, and that's Jesus Christ, we 1482 01:29:18,940 --> 01:29:20,940 can't. We have to go back and we have 1483 01:29:20,940 --> 01:29:26,210 to look at a lot of things. Not what salvation means, not 1484 01:29:26,210 --> 01:29:28,890 being filled with the Holy Ghost, not the fruits of the 1485 01:29:28,890 --> 01:29:31,690 Spirit, none of those things. Those things have always been 1486 01:29:31,690 --> 01:29:35,370 great and active and should be paramount in what we do. 1487 01:29:37,370 --> 01:29:40,490 But I'm talking about some of the doctrines and activities 1488 01:29:40,490 --> 01:29:45,650 that result from doctrines that in and of themselves keep us 1489 01:29:45,650 --> 01:29:50,520 limited. We need to be like the apostles 1490 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,600 who, when they were walking down the road, their shadow touched 1491 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:58,120 somebody and they were healed. The naysayers always say, well, 1492 01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:02,880 they were apostles, so they believed the same way that I 1493 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,840 believed. What they had is they had 1494 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:12,480 everything such balance and synchronization that the Lord of 1495 01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:16,400 Glory was walking in them and the Holy Spirit was all around 1496 01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,660 them. And tell me why we shouldn't be 1497 01:30:18,660 --> 01:30:24,180 that way today. So please be challenged to be 1498 01:30:24,180 --> 01:30:30,820 stretched in your inner man or woman and allow the Lord to come 1499 01:30:30,820 --> 01:30:34,020 in at levels that you never dreamed of, because he's big 1500 01:30:34,020 --> 01:30:37,380 enough to fill that into Infinity. 1501 01:30:38,980 --> 01:30:47,100 Let him, as a result of pressing into his heart, show you things 1502 01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:49,300 that you never dreamed that you would know. 1503 01:30:50,020 --> 01:30:52,940 But then turn around and be a blessing to other people. 1504 01:30:54,140 --> 01:30:56,980 Because the reason that the world is in the mess that it's 1505 01:30:56,980 --> 01:31:02,420 in today is because we've allowed society, culture, so 1506 01:31:02,420 --> 01:31:04,460 many other things to dumb us down. 1507 01:31:06,860 --> 01:31:10,460 My challenge to each and every one of us would be, isn't it 1508 01:31:10,460 --> 01:31:15,720 time that it, children of the living God, bring heaven culture 1509 01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:20,480 down to earth and start demonstrating it in a visible 1510 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:23,800 fashion? That's not just for after we 1511 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,680 die, it's for now. And those who can catch on to 1512 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,840 that, they're going to be the game changers in the world. 1513 01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,520 Changers. Phenomenal. 1514 01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,960 And I couldn't recommend your book more to the audience. 1515 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,200 You guys go get a copy of Moving Towards Sonship with the 1516 01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,280 workbook. You'll find some details in the 1517 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:46,840 show, notes listeners reiterating what Doc told us 1518 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,520 where to get, where to get his book from, and I'm excited to 1519 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:55,440 have him back in the future. A bit of a cliffhanger with the 1520 01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:58,520 questions I have, and I know with you guys as the audience 1521 01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:03,040 you've got plenty of questions too, so keep your eyes open. 1522 01:32:03,820 --> 01:32:08,460 For a Part 2 in the near future, don't forget to like, subscribe 1523 01:32:08,500 --> 01:32:12,220 and to share this episode. I know it was helpful, I know it 1524 01:32:12,220 --> 01:32:15,540 was edifying. Share it with your friend, 1525 01:32:15,540 --> 01:32:19,500 family member, coworker. Just share the show and coming 1526 01:32:19,500 --> 01:32:21,980 to you from Southeastern Pennsylvania. 1527 01:32:22,580 --> 01:32:24,380 God bless and goodbye.