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Hello folks. 
This is Princess. 

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You are listening to the 
Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.

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Thanks for listening. 
Don't forget to share with your 

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friends. 
That's tough. 

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We're in a very tough spot. 
I think that what we're doing 

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right now is a great benefit in 
virtue because it's an end 

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around between this whole 
corrupt informational system, 

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media system. 
We claim to believe in a God who

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spoke the universe into 
existence and literally raised 

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himself from the dead, and yet 
we are not going to believe that

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anything else exists in the 
spirit realm, even though His 

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word tells us that they do. 
Their bodies weren't permitted 

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to go to sleep like humans do, 
and they weren't permitted to go

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to. 
Heaven, so they wander the. 

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Earth. 
You know, I've seen the eyes 

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turn black to unknown tongues 
being spoken. 

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These giants. 
Would live way up in the island.

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The young, Braves the young. 
Would hide them in the. 

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They wait for one of these 12. 
Footers to come? 

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Walking down the path. 
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On them. 
And kill them and. 

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Drag them back to. 
The village and the village. 

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Would feast on the body. 
Then people start to get 

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weapons. 
They start to get armor, they 

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start to build cities. 
They start to fortify their 

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cities. 
Now God looks down and there's 

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violence everywhere. 
The battle, this war that we are

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at is not against each other. 
It's against these 

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principalities and these rulers 
and these archons in the high 

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places. 
It's really worthwhile to read 

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the Bible yourself. 
Fear is one of the. 

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Primary drivers of mind control.
Because we have to. 

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Take. 
Every thought. 

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Captive and resist fear. 
You're going to have a testimony

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that is a justice case against 
the Kingdom of Darkness. 

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Welcome back to the show, 
everybody. 

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I'm your host, Rod. 
I have an awesome episode in 

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store for you guys. 
I'm joined by Stacy Chavis. 

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Now, I've released a mini ease 
of verification episode with her

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the other week. 
Powerful, powerful stuff. 

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This is the long conversation. 
She shares her testimony. 

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We talked about her life, 
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encountered, the goodness of 
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her and what he's doing with the
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to the table. 
So this is a really heartfelt 

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and powerful testimony episode. 
We have a great conversation. 

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And I'm excited for you guys to 
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pieces, you can watch the video 
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Ministry, which is my 
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the prayer portal. 
If you guys need prayer 

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deliverance, highly recommend 
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important and I'm not going to 
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into this episode with Stacy. 
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Are you guys ready? 
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Hello, this is Stacy Chavis with
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you are listening to the 
Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.

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Welcome back to the show, 
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I have an awesome episode in 
store for you guys. 

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I am blessed to have Stacy 
Chavis Chavis. 

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Am I saying that right? 
Chavis Yes. 

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Chavis OK, I want to make sure I
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There's my first edit for this 
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have you here with me on this 
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We have ministered together a 
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Brother Klaus, your husband, he 
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know that. 
I've heard you have this 

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powerful testimony and just you 
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And the cool thing about the 
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people. 
It's amazing to see how our 

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testimonies and how we just air 
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You know, just we talk about how
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has done in our life. 
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So I am excited to hear your 
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Thank you for being here. 
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Absolutely. 
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telling us a little bit about 
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what is going on with the 
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we'll dive into your testimony. 
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Klaus and I have been married 
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And together we travel, we 
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together, and we also have our 
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My ministry is called 
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It's a ladies ministry that is 
geared towards equipping women 

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to walk in their God-given 
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I also am extremely passionate 
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endeavoring to do that. 
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up medical school in hopes of 
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Organization or the Apostolic 
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will be focused on Apostolic 
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I serve as a minister at my 
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Global missions director at my 
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group leader of a group of about
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in ministry, very active, very 
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and pouring into others, really 
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God's people and trying to do 
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That is, that's powerful. 
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school. 
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And so I believe your testimony 
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out there right now that may be 
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what God is calling them to do, 
to just get clarity with all the

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different messages and signals 
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Sometimes listening to somebody 
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perk up a little bit and go, 
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I was experiencing or that 
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So where where were you born and
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come to Christ? 
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where you're like, I'm all in, 
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I'm actually, I'm Indian. 
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and so our background is 
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I grew up as Hindu. 
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When it would be raining I would
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I I always knew that there was a
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practicing Hindu, it wasn't ever
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deep, thorough understanding of.
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my culture, and out of tradition
and habit I knew a few things I.

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I really started exploring 
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college. 
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friend group of about four or 
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all from different states or 
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they didn't have cars. 
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car in my friend group and one 
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drop them off and not go to 
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We would all go to church 
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kind of how it started off. 
It started off in college going 

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to church with my friends and 
that's when I really first 

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started reading the word, 
knowing scriptures and pursuing 

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a relationship with God. 
I got. 

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I didn't get back. 
Okay go. 

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Ahead. 
Well, this is all like brand new

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for me, so I didn't know this is
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So real quick, how does that 
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family? 
Are you the only Christian like 

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in your family? 
No, I'm not my great 

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grandmother. 
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Christian and my grandmother is 
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I have also an uncle who's 
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There are family members 
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I would say they're as deep in 
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My parents are not yet, but you 
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I'm believing God for for their 
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and my sisters. 
And and it was, it was very 

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difficult in the beginning 
because there were so many 

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extreme changes within myself, 
the way I dressed or even just 

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like, you know, drinking, having
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I wouldn't do that. 
I stopped wearing makeup and. 

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And so there were a lot of 
changes that they didn't 

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understand or agree with. 
And they're very strong minded, 

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opinionated people. 
And you know, of course, well, 

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you may or may not know, but in 
the Indian culture, there's 

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heavy emphasis on wealth and 
money and you show that through 

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jewelry and makeup and 
materialistic things, where as 

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in Christianity, it's more about
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And so I think that that's where
the most tension grew from 

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because I would get, you know, 
these comments from my sister 

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like, well, why aren't you 
wearing any jewelry or where are

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your earrings? 
And and so there was a lot of 

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persecution in the beginning 
that was very hard for me to 

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take. 
Wow. 

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Yeah, well, well, I know. 
I know from the perspective of 

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like when I came to the Lord. 
I had to, like, reinvent myself,

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right? 
I had to let go of this music 

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and the partying and just this 
culture. 

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And and that was difficult 
because it's like you're coming.

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I was coming out of this like, 
you know, Pennsylvania, 

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southeastern Pennsylvania, 
around the Philadelphia area. 

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It was just the culture that I 
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It was cheese, steak, chicken 
fingers. 

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People were smoking weed. 
There was a lot of house 

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parties, everybody, you know, it
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To put the kibosh on all of that
and then find myself kind of 

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alone and you feel like a 
target. 

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So I can only imagine, like, 
just hearing, you know, you have

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this cultural impression where 
not everybody in your family 

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even understands Christianity 
because at least people in the 

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world, they have a concept of 
what Christianity is in America.

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They're like, oh, you're one of 
those Christians, you know, 

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like, we get that all the time. 
But to actually like, you know, 

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see that, you know, you're 
having this cultural difference 

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where, like they're expressing. 
Their wealth or what they feel 

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is power through, you know, like
you said, jewelry or just this 

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authority or this position, 
right, Vehicles, houses, 

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whatever it is, But you have 
this meekness, this reserved 

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power that's growing on the 
inside, but you don't look or 

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follow them with the attire on 
the outside. 

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So that wow, that's pretty deep 
now. 

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What is it? 
What does it look like to have 

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family gatherings at this point 
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Like, I'm just, I'm just going 
to ask a simple question, but 

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take it from there and just, you
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But are they peaceable with you 
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happening on the inside in your 
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with the outside? 
Yes. 

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So the first year was probably 
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And and and that that's where I 
really faced a lot of that 

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persecution and a lot of the the
tensions with spending time 

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together and and things of that 
nature because I'm very close 

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with my family. 
I'm my older sister is 

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essentially one of my best 
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My mom and I are very close. 
I'm a daddy's girl. 

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I'm the baby of my family and 
so. 

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And so it was really difficult 
for the first year. 

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And actually I back slid. 
I back slid because of all the 

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pressure when I first I first 
got baptized in Jesus name and 

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filled with the Holy Ghost. 
February 7th, 2017. 

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It was a Wednesday night. 
It was a midweek service. 

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It was my first time stepping 
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A previous coworker. 
Had made a Facebook post who 

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wants to come to church? 
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that was I had gone through a 
string of bad relationships. 

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I was in an abusive relationship
before that. 

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The guy was dating actually 
ended up having a stroke and 

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everyone blamed me for it and 
and so I had already cut myself 

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off from like all my friends and
all the partying and going out 

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and all of those things. 
And throughout that time I was, 

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I was in medical school and then
I was forced to stop and I 

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started working a full time job 
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I felt very confused. 
I didn't know what my next steps

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were going to be and I just 
wanted to go back to school. 

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I just wanted to finish medical 
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So I was really at a point in my
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just feeling completely lost. 
When my coworker made that 

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status, I at that time I had 
been searching for a a church 

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because a couple weeks prior I 
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Empowerment conference. 
It was like a Christian women's 

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empowerment conference with one 
of my friends and all these 

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women were talking about their 
church home and their church 

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family and you know the 
significance and the impact in 

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their lives of having this 
church family. 

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And I, even though my family was
there in Tampa, I still always 

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felt alone and isolated. 
I felt like something was 

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missing. 
And so I I after telling that 

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conference, I said, well, I'm 
gonna find myself a church home.

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And I went on Facebook and I 
asked for recommendations and I 

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got a whole list of 
recommendations. 

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And I went that first Sunday to 
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It was good, But I felt like I 
needed more. 

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So I thought I would have to 
wait till the next Sunday, not 

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knowing that Wednesday night was
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And I was supposed to hang out 
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something was just drawing on me
that I needed to go. 

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So I went and the pastor 
preached and and so my friend, 

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she sat down next to me and I 
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And she was asking me what, what
was wrong. 

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And I just told her how I felt 
so lost. 

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And I didn't know what I was 
doing. 

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I wasn't working. 
I wasn't in school. 

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I just felt really lost, like I 
didn't know what my next steps 

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would be. 
And I grew up as someone who 

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always had a plan, always had an
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accomplished, did well in 
school, always knew I was going 

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to be a doctor. 
You know, everything had always 

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been laid out for me. 
So this was the first time I 

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really battled with something 
like that. 

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And she talked to me about 
baptism in Jesus name. 

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And I had been baptized before 
when I was in college, but it 

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was one of those Friday night 
youth event kind of things and I

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really didn't agree to it or 
know what was happening. 

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They just kind of said who 
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Took us all into the back and 
baptized us. 

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So that was different. 
So so I wasn't sure what they 

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said. 
So when she was asking me, well 

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did you have you been baptized 
in Jesus name? 

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And since I wasn't sure, my 
thing is like, well, I'm just 

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going to do it again just to 
make sure. 

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So I got baptized in Jesus name 
that night and then they said, 

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do you want the Holy Ghost? 
And I said yes. 

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And they prayed for me and I 
received the Holy Ghost. 

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And it's an experience and a 
feeling that I'll never forget. 

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It was like this. 
Electricity came up through my 

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right hand and my began in my 
fingers and just went up through

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my arm and like across my body. 
And I just. 

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I felt God. 
I like. 

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I felt him and a way that I had 
never felt him before. 

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And and it was amazing. 
And I felt whole. 

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I felt healed. 
I felt joy. 

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I felt peace. 
It it was that joy, unspeakable,

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that that so many of us talk 
about Nothing could get me down.

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I mean, I was go. 
I was still going through it. 

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I still had all the same 
problems. 

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But. 
I knew that I would never have 

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to be alone again. 
I would never have to feel that 

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loneliness. 
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before was that I had been 
suicidal. 

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I was suicidal when I was in 
college and then I was suicidal 

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during that season prior to 
deciding to to look for a job or

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a church. 
Because I was talking about how 

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I had this string of bad 
relationships and and that led 

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me to you know, want to take a 
whole bunch of pills, you know 

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just end all the pain and and 
just be gone. 

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Because I've. 
I felt like it would better be 

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better for me to just die than 
to than to live. 

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How I was living. 
And all that pain and all that 

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hurt and all the rejection and 
and just the the trauma that I 

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had gone through in my life 
through like my family and 

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relationships and just 
disappointments and hurts that 

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happen. 
As if you go through life and 

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you get older. 
And God he you know he instantly

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removed all of that I had. 
I turn. 

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I turn to all the things that 
people turn to in the world. 

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I turn to drinking. 
I turn to drugs, smoking, and 

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and trying to numb the pain and 
escape reality. 

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I did all of those things, but 
at the end of the day, you know,

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it didn't take away the pain or 
the hurt. 

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Not like when I was filled with 
the Holy Ghost and it felt as 

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though God came in to my broken 
heart and healed every every 

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crack and every crevice every 
hole and and I felt that peace 

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and that joy and and that's when
things really started to change 

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for me. 
And I mentioned that I I back 

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slid. 
I back slid for a couple of 

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months. 
I was in the church for about 

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six months and then the 
pressures just became too much 

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and certain things happened at 
church and I felt like I don't 

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need to deal with this. 
And I left. 

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And I and I kind of battled with
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I struggled with it. 
But I always prayed. 

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I never stopped praying. 
I never stopped seeking God. 

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And I would say to God, well, if
it's your will for me to go back

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eventually I'll go back. 
And I did start to make my way 

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back. 
I didn't fully recommit myself 

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till about six months after when
I started going back. 

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So it's about September of the 
following year, September 2018. 

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And for me the difference was 
relationship, because when I 

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first got saved, I was doing all
these things in the church. 

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It was a smaller church and they
needed help and and I had the 

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time and I had the giftings and 
the talent. 

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So of course I was going to give
myself to helping, but in doing 

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that, I neglected nurturing and 
building my relationship with 

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God. 
And in those months that I was 

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away, I I was able to pray and 
pursue him and grow in my 

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relationship with him. 
Meanwhile, still being in the 

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world, still going back to doing
all those things I was doing 

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before. 
But but God was with me and he 

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was giving me that grace and he 
was building me up to go back. 

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So when I went back, I was 
rooted in who I was. 

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And because I was rooted in who 
I was, I knew who I was in 

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Christ and who he called me to 
be. 

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I I had a confidence now where I
was, I was social and I was 

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hanging out with these people. 
I was being used by God and 

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getting all these opportunities 
to to testify and and to help 

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start organizations and do 
marketing for all the churches. 

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Because we're where a network of
about more now but at that time 

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about 27 churches and you know 
really helped to to do some 

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vital work for the ministry of 
God. 

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But it's it was about that 
balance of Mary and Martha that 

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I had, you know, prayer. 
Prayer was prayer was vital. 

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It was important to me. 
I made time for prayer. 

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I made time for my relationships
with God. 

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And I saw a difference even in 
how I was the marketing and 

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events director for my church 
when I first got there and and 

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when I returned they asked me to
come back into those positions 

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and I did. 
And I saw such a difference 

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because now everything was God. 
Let everything was God inspired.

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The Flyers, the colors, the 
events, everything was God 

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working through me. 
And because it was God, 

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everything was now fruitful. 
Wow. 

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So yeah. 
That's powerful. 

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That's powerful. 
So it's almost like. 

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God get is like waking us up to 
Our Calling and and what does a 

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good father do, right? 
Because like for me, the way 

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that I grew up is like me and my
dad didn't have the best 

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relationship. 
You kind of was working a lot 

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and going a lot and when he was 
around it was always like, okay,

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don't do anything wrong, walking
on eggshells. 

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So when I came to Christ, I came
with like this, oh, I got to be,

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I got to be perfect. 
I can't do nothing wrong. 

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And then? 
I'm feeling like I was going to 

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get squashed like a bug when I 
started to backslide and and 

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wrestle with things. 
So I hear other people's stories

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and what I'm seeing is just 
like, God is a good father. 

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Like he's just waiting. 
He's like, I have a calling for 

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you. 
I have an anointing for you. 

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And like, just him seeing the 
finished product of Jesus Christ

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in us. 
No wonder why it's a double 

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portion of grace when we're 
figuring it out, because I 

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really feel like God is so 
patient with us. 

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And and really just he, he knows
how much bondage from the 

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secular things that we go 
through, the things with our 

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family, all the systematic 
desensitizations, the Airways, 

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the frequencies of the enemy 
posturing himself to try to 

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defeat us. 
We're really walking miracles, 

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to be honest with you, Stacy. 
We're all of us. 

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We're walking miracles. 
And then God is calling us out 

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of the darkness is like, That's 
what keeps me in love with God 

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even more, Just at like. 
Where I'm at right now, because 

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I'm going, God, you just keep 
leading me closer to you. 

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Like I don't bring nothing to 
the table. 

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I'm. 
I'm nobody but you. 

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Oh, the majesty of the king. 
So I love hearing. 

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I love hearing that story 
because that's cool. 

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So you're still in these roles. 
You're still working with 

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churches. 
You're ministering. 

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You're with the small woman's 
group. 

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You're training up other women, 
which is that's so biblical. 

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Women, listen to me for one 
second. 

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When you start living godly, God
is working this out in you and 

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he's showing you things. 
We have to be willing to bury 

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each other's burdens and so 
fulfill the law. 

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We have to be willing to be 
like, listen, I'm going to start

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the small group never despise 
small beginnings. 

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I learned that and a core group 
of of women that you're you're 

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it's like a Bible study. 
You guys are doing a prayer meet

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and is any of that open? 
To, let's say if listeners 

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wanted to come and join you on 
like a, I don't know, a zoom 

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call or how do you do this? 
Do you do anything that's online

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as well? 
Cuz I know with Klaus, he has 

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digital disciples ministry, he 
does some YouTube stuff. 

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So let's talk a little bit more 
about your ministry. 

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Yes, absolutely. 
It's open. 

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It's open to ladies wherever 
whosoever will come. 

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It's The group is primarily 
based off of Facebook. 

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It's a private Facebook group, 
so if you just search Walkworthy

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and you send a request to join, 
you can join. 

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00:28:21,670 --> 00:28:27,030
I post lots of content in there.
I share words of encouragement, 

455
00:28:27,070 --> 00:28:32,150
upcoming events, whether they be
online or in person. 

456
00:28:32,430 --> 00:28:37,910
A lot of the teachings are done 
online, and even if you're not 

457
00:28:37,910 --> 00:28:41,990
able to join the live teachings,
I do the live teachings on Zoom 

458
00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:46,630
For those that are not able to 
attend when it's live, I do 

459
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:49,110
record it and put it on YouTube 
as well. 

460
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:53,030
Right now we're doing a summer 
series, reading through the book

461
00:28:53,030 --> 00:28:58,790
The Bait of Satan, which is a 
study on a fence, which is I 

462
00:28:58,790 --> 00:29:03,950
feel like it came directly from 
God to me for such a time as 

463
00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:08,630
this, because we know. 
At in this life you will face 

464
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:10,630
offense. 
You know Jesus says that. 

465
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:14,070
And we know that we're in the 
last days and many will be 

466
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:17,550
deceived and many will be 
deceived because of offense. 

467
00:29:17,950 --> 00:29:23,650
So I feel very strongly you know
about that, that teaching that 

468
00:29:23,650 --> 00:29:26,290
I'm doing. 
Again with everything that I do 

469
00:29:26,290 --> 00:29:28,930
for ministry, it's God led, God 
inspired. 

470
00:29:28,930 --> 00:29:32,850
I don't want to do anything of 
my own will or my own volition. 

471
00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:36,810
So I felt led to do a summer 
series on the bait of Satan. 

472
00:29:36,810 --> 00:29:39,890
So we're about in Week 3 right 
now. 

473
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:42,830
So that's what's going on with 
that. 

474
00:29:43,230 --> 00:29:45,750
On YouTube. 
I'm Stacy Chavez, but you can 

475
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:49,350
find all the walk worthy videos 
on there as well. 

476
00:29:49,870 --> 00:29:53,710
And I'm very active on social 
media, on my Facebook and my 

477
00:29:53,710 --> 00:29:56,190
Instagram. 
People reach out to me for with 

478
00:29:56,190 --> 00:29:59,070
questions, for mentoring or 
counseling. 

479
00:29:59,070 --> 00:30:03,950
I also do mentorships as well 
and not just with ladies that 

480
00:30:03,950 --> 00:30:07,950
are here, but anywhere because I
know that it's hard. 

481
00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:13,990
It's hard being a woman trying 
to do what God called you to do.

482
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:19,710
And we're not always surrounded 
by strong women of faith that 

483
00:30:19,710 --> 00:30:23,270
will pour into us and help us 
and guide us and lead us. 

484
00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:26,470
Thankfully, that was not ever my
story. 

485
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:31,350
I had so many women to pour into
me and to guide me and lead me 

486
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:35,230
when I first started my walk. 
So I feel that it's only right 

487
00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:40,450
that that I do, that I yeah, I'm
just very passionate about 

488
00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:45,290
equipping and enabling women. 
While the world aims to have 

489
00:30:45,290 --> 00:30:49,090
women pit themselves against 
each other and make everything a

490
00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:52,610
competition, we know that as 
women of God, we should be 

491
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:55,210
praying for one another, 
uplifting one another, 

492
00:30:55,410 --> 00:30:58,610
supporting one another. 
There's more than enough room 

493
00:30:58,850 --> 00:31:01,930
for all of our giftings and 
talents, for all of our 

494
00:31:01,930 --> 00:31:06,330
abilities, and we can accomplish
so much more together than we 

495
00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:10,790
could ever apart. 
Wow. 

496
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:16,310
Very well said. 
And that drive and that passion.

497
00:31:17,390 --> 00:31:20,310
I I love the last part that you 
said there's plenty of room for 

498
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:23,510
all of us and God's gifting and 
our ability because we there's 

499
00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:28,990
just so much that we have vision
and dream to come to pass, 

500
00:31:28,990 --> 00:31:30,270
right. 
And it's like there's there's so

501
00:31:30,270 --> 00:31:32,830
many things that we know God is 
moving and wants to do. 

502
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:36,710
But I believe from God's 
perspective it involves like. 

503
00:31:37,270 --> 00:31:39,670
A lot more people than are 
currently participating. 

504
00:31:40,910 --> 00:31:44,590
So when I see somebody who's 
like full-fledged and feeding 

505
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:47,230
flock and and training our 
people and just taking that 

506
00:31:47,230 --> 00:31:51,470
time, I believe that's bringing 
the bigger picture into focus. 

507
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:57,390
Because we're supposed to pray 
for more laborers, right? 

508
00:31:57,390 --> 00:32:01,230
Because the harvest is is going 
to become more plentiful, but 

509
00:32:01,230 --> 00:32:03,910
the laborers are few. 
And so when we're we're. 

510
00:32:04,260 --> 00:32:08,660
Planting that seed and watering 
that seed, it's a good wage and 

511
00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:10,860
God is going to get glory 
because he's going to cause it 

512
00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:15,740
to grow. 
So interesting, very interesting

513
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:20,060
story. 
And then I know you've came up 

514
00:32:20,060 --> 00:32:24,500
here, you and Klaus, a few Times
Now, and we've had some powerful

515
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:29,060
prayers together I want you to 
talk a little bit about. 

516
00:32:30,130 --> 00:32:33,570
What the drive and the mission 
is that God is is leading and 

517
00:32:33,570 --> 00:32:37,690
tugging you guys too. 
I mean we can even talk about 

518
00:32:37,690 --> 00:32:39,810
like greater than Azusa Street, 
right? 

519
00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:43,730
That is starting to pop up now 
where we know God is doing 

520
00:32:43,930 --> 00:32:46,970
certain things with people all 
around the country and and 

521
00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:49,450
within the states around us, 
right. 

522
00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:53,770
So talk a little bit about how 
God has been preparing you guys,

523
00:32:53,770 --> 00:32:56,890
and I mean any the good, the 
bad, the ugly, whatever you feel

524
00:32:56,890 --> 00:33:00,550
like sharing. 
But help us understand. 

525
00:33:00,550 --> 00:33:03,830
So as other people start to 
minister and they start to go 

526
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:07,470
out and walk faith on a line of 
faith, maybe maybe there's 

527
00:33:07,470 --> 00:33:13,270
something you can say that they 
can relate to A lot of people. 

528
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:18,310
When I first got saved, I think 
I had been saved for maybe about

529
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:21,110
a year or two. 
I think I was saved for two 

530
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:26,940
years and the church that I came
out of or moved from, I should 

531
00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:31,580
say, when I got married, had a 
has a Bible school where you can

532
00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:34,380
go through all the classes and 
you can become a licensed 

533
00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:38,660
minister. 
And I felt that I was called to 

534
00:33:38,660 --> 00:33:42,300
become a licensed minister. 
So I started these classes, of 

535
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:46,610
course, with the approval and 
support of my lead pastor, and 

536
00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:49,290
lots of people told me that I 
was crazy. 

537
00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:52,570
You're crazy for pursuing your 
minister's license. 

538
00:33:52,570 --> 00:33:55,850
Once you start preaching, once 
you start ministering, that's 

539
00:33:55,930 --> 00:33:59,210
that's when the enemy really 
starts to go after you. 

540
00:33:59,410 --> 00:34:02,770
You know, you're putting a 
target on your back. 

541
00:34:03,170 --> 00:34:07,960
And I thought, what is stupid 
reason to not do what God called

542
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,040
you to do? 
So I went ahead and I I still I 

543
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,360
did it. 
I I took all the classes. 

544
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,280
You know, I'm going to, I'm 
going to do what God called me 

545
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,440
to do. 
And if I'm doing it, I'm doing 

546
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,400
what God called me to do, then I
know that God is going to 

547
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,280
protect me and he's going to see
me through. 

548
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,800
And just like it says in James 
count it all joy when when these

549
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:37,120
Childs come knowing that you are
being perfected and and that 

550
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,280
scripture has been a caring 
theme in my life probably for 

551
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,360
the last maybe four or five 
years. 

552
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:50,300
And and Klaus and I were just 
friends when we talked about all

553
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:53,380
the ministries we were going to 
have and all the things that we 

554
00:34:53,380 --> 00:34:55,900
were going to do. 
That's really how our our 

555
00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:59,780
friendship came about was 
talking about God and who God is

556
00:34:59,780 --> 00:35:03,660
and and all the things that we 
wanted to accomplish for God. 

557
00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:07,620
And so we always knew that we 
were going to do all these great

558
00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:13,580
big things for God. 
And when when this year started 

559
00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:19,710
and and Klaus got the vision for
greater than Azusa was confirmed

560
00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:24,950
over and over and over. 
The word that God gave me for 

561
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:29,430
this year is unprecedented. 
God said he is going to do 

562
00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:36,630
unprecedented things this year. 
And we know that Azusa started 

563
00:35:36,750 --> 00:35:41,840
out of prayer meetings and we 
really need to get back to the 

564
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,360
basics of prayer meetings and 
seeking a move of God. 

565
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,600
And even with what happened at 
Asbury the a few months ago, it 

566
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,840
was birthed out of a prayer 
meeting. 

567
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,560
It was birthed out of out of a 
group of students tearing in the

568
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:03,270
Lord and and we have gotten so 
far away from that. 

569
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:07,430
Now church services are 
preaching for 45 minutes and 

570
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:11,750
praying at the altar for 10 to 
15 minutes, when really it needs

571
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:15,470
to be the opposite. 
It needs to be praying for 45 

572
00:36:15,470 --> 00:36:20,550
minutes to an hour, probably 
more with very minimal preaching

573
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:23,750
and teaching. 
We don't really need to to do 

574
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:27,750
that much preaching, especially 
to the saved you. 

575
00:36:27,870 --> 00:36:30,950
You preach to the boss, you 
teach the saved. 

576
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:36,310
And so we kind of have to 
correct a lot of church culture 

577
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:42,740
as it is today in America. 
You wouldn't think it, but there

578
00:36:42,740 --> 00:36:47,180
are so many places in the United
States where people don't have a

579
00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:50,260
church, they don't have a church
in their area that they can go 

580
00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:54,620
to or they don't have a church 
in their area teaching truth. 

581
00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:58,820
And so Klaus and I have a burden
to go to those areas. 

582
00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:01,380
You know, we go up to 
Pennsylvania, we go to Northern 

583
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:04,960
Virginia. 
There's a church that Klaus 

584
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,960
pastors, the pastor of that 
church in Louisiana. 

585
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,240
And I know that there are more 
that are going to be coming. 

586
00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:17,860
And so we have such a burden for
these people because they don't 

587
00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:20,060
have a church that they can go 
to. 

588
00:37:20,060 --> 00:37:24,100
They don't have a group of 
people to fellowship with on a 

589
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:28,500
weekly basis or someone to meet 
up with them and counsel them or

590
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:32,060
pour into them. 
So you do have, you know, that's

591
00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:36,290
why you see these Internet 
famous preachers, because so 

592
00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:39,970
many people now in this day and 
age are drawing to the Internet 

593
00:37:39,970 --> 00:37:43,810
to find truth, to find teachings
to be fed. 

594
00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:48,210
Because they're they cannot get 
fed at through any other means. 

595
00:37:48,850 --> 00:37:53,890
And this is vital, vital for us 
to answer the call. 

596
00:37:53,890 --> 00:37:58,490
It's vital for us to disciple. 
It's vital for us to counsel and

597
00:37:58,490 --> 00:38:03,680
to pour into into others. 
And so we do have people that 

598
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,200
reach out to us on YouTube, 
Instagram, Facebook. 

599
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:13,440
They need counsel, guidance. 
We schedule zoom calls for 

600
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:19,160
prayer, for counseling and and 
we do all that we can do to help

601
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,040
these people. 
And it's a beautiful thing too, 

602
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,840
because then we get to connect 
with so many different people in

603
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,800
other States and other other 
areas and even in in other parts

604
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,430
of the world. 
I think it was the end of last 

605
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:38,230
year, I had a girl ask if Klaus 
and I were going to be coming to

606
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:43,350
Toronto anytime soon because she
wanted to get baptized in Jesus 

607
00:38:43,350 --> 00:38:46,350
name. 
And normally when they're far 

608
00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:49,590
away like that, I'll try to find
a church that I can connect them

609
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:52,030
to. 
If not, you know, we'll find a 

610
00:38:52,030 --> 00:38:55,470
way or make a way to meet them 
somewhere or get to them. 

611
00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:59,590
That's how we met Terry Allen. 
We drove up there to baptize him

612
00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:05,220
and I was able to connect her to
a church and she was able to get

613
00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:09,580
baptized and get get the Holy 
Ghost from an Instagram message.

614
00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:13,860
I mean, you can't make this 
stuff up, but we all we can't 

615
00:39:13,860 --> 00:39:16,620
limit God, you know? 
And a lot of people try to limit

616
00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:20,260
God that he can't work in on 
certain avenues or through 

617
00:39:20,260 --> 00:39:23,420
certain things. 
But I got saved through a 

618
00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:27,820
Facebook post. 
I met my husband on Facebook. 

619
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:33,300
I mean, Facebook is responsible 
for half of my my, my ministry, 

620
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:36,700
my destiny. 
I mean, like, what a what a 

621
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:40,580
millennial testimony. 
Like, yeah, Facebook did it. 

622
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,240
Exactly. 
Oh, that's epic. 

623
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,760
That is. 
I'm so happy you're here sharing

624
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,080
this story. 
I think there's a whole 

625
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,320
generation of people that agree 
the millennial generation are 

626
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,240
nodding their heads as they're 
listening to this. 

627
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,440
Yes, exactly. 
Yes. 

628
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:01,720
But, and I said this on another 
recording, I'm like, man, if the

629
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:04,240
Apostle Paul was here, he'd be 
on a podcast. 

630
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,560
Like, he would utilize 
everything, right? 

631
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,000
He'd be writing letters. 
He would be out on the street. 

632
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,360
He'd be on a podcast. 
He'd be on a YouTube video. 

633
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,240
You would literally find him 
everywhere. 

634
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,960
You'd find him in the car 
yelling out the window as he's 

635
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,560
traveling to baptize somebody 
else. 

636
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,360
He'd be like, man, this is much 
better than walking. 

637
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,760
But and and the day and age we 
live in, we are using the 

638
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,720
enemy's Airways, right? 
Because the Prince of the power,

639
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:30,680
the air, this enemy, he's got 
the Airways jacked up. 

640
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,480
He has people messed up in all 
types of ways. 

641
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:39,220
But we are on a battlefield and 
a mission field by doing what 

642
00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:41,740
we're doing right now. 
It is, it is significant 

643
00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:45,260
sometimes beyond even what I 
realized. 

644
00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:47,060
Like I'm like, oh podcast, 
another episode. 

645
00:40:47,060 --> 00:40:48,580
I'll pray, I'll say, God, give 
me wisdom. 

646
00:40:48,580 --> 00:40:52,060
I'm interested in this story and
I don't just release any episode

647
00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:56,340
on this platform. 
Like I'll I'll pray about it. 

648
00:40:56,340 --> 00:40:59,180
I I try to capture what I see 
that's beautiful in somebody 

649
00:40:59,180 --> 00:41:01,600
else. 
Or if I know somebody's legit, 

650
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,360
like, they really have the heart
to be doing this. 

651
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,040
They're walking. 
They're talking. 

652
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,760
I try to collaborate with that 
person. 

653
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,680
Like, your story needs to be 
heard because, hey, we have too 

654
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,320
many actors. 
We have too many actors out 

655
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,680
there, and acting is never going
to actually make a disciple. 

656
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,800
And there's no power in that. 
There's only people just be 

657
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,080
lusting over them, right? 
They're just, they want what 

658
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,200
they have. 
Oh, I want to be like this 

659
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,720
person. 
Oh, I want to sound like this 

660
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:30,800
person, but really we have the 
sons and daughters of God that 

661
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,840
are starting to come into 
position of the Eclaicia. 

662
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,640
We are starting to come into 
correct order and position by 

663
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,640
networking, praying, what you 
were saying. 

664
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,120
Yes, Oh my goodness, that is 
what we need to be doing at this

665
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,200
point in time. 
And man, I'm enjoying this 

666
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,280
conversation. 
So let's talk about have you 

667
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,400
I've never asked, have you ever 
had a supernatural experience? 

668
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,880
Have you ever had a dream of 
vision or any anything at all 

669
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,960
that deals with the 
supernatural, like with your 

670
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,400
your time in the Lord or even 
before that? 

671
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,360
I've had many. 
I've had many. 

672
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,360
Supernatural. 
Yeah, I've had many. 

673
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,600
Supernatural. 
Both. 

674
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,440
Both. 
Both before I got saved and 

675
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,230
after. 
Yeah, okay, Are you willing to 

676
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:25,270
share? 
Share one from before you got 

677
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:28,870
saved and then let's talk about 
one after and then just just 

678
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:32,270
walk us into it. 
Share as much as you wanna share

679
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:39,110
what happened. 
Well the before I got saved. 

680
00:42:39,110 --> 00:42:42,950
I won't go into too too too many
details but. 

681
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:51,870
We know with Hinduism and in the
West Indian culture there's 

682
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:59,270
voodoo like practices and you 
know very what we know now or 

683
00:42:59,270 --> 00:43:01,990
what I know now to be 
witchcraft. 

684
00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:08,980
And so that had gone on. 
And I just recall always being a

685
00:43:08,980 --> 00:43:11,540
person of prayer. 
You know, I always gave myself 

686
00:43:11,540 --> 00:43:15,060
to prayer and fasting and things
of that nature. 

687
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:21,660
And in Hinduism we have what is 
equivalent to a pastor or priest

688
00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:24,580
and what it's called a pundit 
and. 

689
00:43:25,350 --> 00:43:28,910
We you can get these readings 
and they're kind of like 

690
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:31,390
astrological readings, I 
suppose. 

691
00:43:31,390 --> 00:43:37,470
I'm not sure of the ins and outs
of it, but a cousin of mine who 

692
00:43:37,470 --> 00:43:41,640
I consider like a brother. 
Had got a reading for me from 

693
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:49,080
his pundit and they told him 
that someone had a a doll of me 

694
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:55,280
like a a I guess like a voodoo 
doll of me and that it had so 

695
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,600
many pins in its in its head 
that you couldn't even see its 

696
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,640
face. 
And I believe that this was 

697
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,520
around the time that I was just 
starting college and I was going

698
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,000
through a lot of. 
Difficulties transitioning and 

699
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,120
things like that. 
Which is why I believe that I 

700
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,920
reached out for the reading to 
try to understand what was going

701
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,880
on and I was told to go on a 
fast which and Hinduism fasting 

702
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,640
is basically like a Daniels fast
where you just don't eat meat. 

703
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:34,000
And I remember being in my room 
one night and it was like these 

704
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,450
black. 
Ghost like figures were just 

705
00:44:39,850 --> 00:44:46,370
like swirling in a circle above 
my bed and I was so scared I 

706
00:44:46,370 --> 00:44:51,310
just hid under my covers. 
And I had never experienced 

707
00:44:51,350 --> 00:44:54,510
anything like that before till 
this day. 

708
00:44:54,510 --> 00:44:58,790
I'm not entirely sure you know 
what was happening or what was 

709
00:44:58,790 --> 00:45:03,470
going on, but apparently there 
was a person who was wishing 

710
00:45:03,550 --> 00:45:08,270
evil upon me and wanting me to 
take my life. 

711
00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:13,270
Which did happen. 
I I did find out afterwards 

712
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:17,550
like, 'cause I mentioned that I 
had, you know, battled with 

713
00:45:17,590 --> 00:45:23,630
being suicidal and my freshman 
going into sophomore year of 

714
00:45:23,630 --> 00:45:27,310
college. 
I went through some things and 

715
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:33,990
and I had a very big bottle of 
Motrin and I took a lot of those

716
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:37,270
pills. 
I ended up telling one of my 

717
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:40,010
friends. 
And they took me to the 

718
00:45:40,010 --> 00:45:42,810
hospital. 
I had to get my stomach pumped. 

719
00:45:43,210 --> 00:45:46,930
I ended up at Jackson Crisis 
Center, 'cause I went to College

720
00:45:46,930 --> 00:45:51,210
in Miami, So I was in that area.
They wouldn't let me out. 

721
00:45:51,210 --> 00:45:56,050
My dad had to come pick me up. 
It was a horrible experience. 

722
00:45:56,050 --> 00:46:01,170
It was so horrible. 
I was like, I will never do that

723
00:46:01,210 --> 00:46:03,730
ever again. 
Just for the mere fact of like 

724
00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:07,690
all the things that you have to 
go through after you attempt to 

725
00:46:07,730 --> 00:46:10,690
suicide on your life. 
And so after the fact, I had 

726
00:46:10,690 --> 00:46:14,930
found out, yeah, this person 
wanted you to kill yourself. 

727
00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:18,810
And I said, oh wow, cuz I 
actually did try. 

728
00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:24,010
And it's just crazy how? 
Yeah, it's crazy how Like 

729
00:46:24,010 --> 00:46:27,410
everything is spiritual. 
You know, whether you see, 

730
00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:31,010
whether you see how it's related
in the spiritual or not, 

731
00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:36,650
everything is spiritual, saved 
or not, everything has spiritual

732
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:40,540
implications. 
So Stacy, you've been through a 

733
00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:44,100
lot and you've dealt with a lot 
of supernatural encounters and 

734
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:46,260
just you know the attempt on 
your life. 

735
00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:49,820
But the Providence of God and 
God's hand and plan for your 

736
00:46:49,820 --> 00:46:52,900
life is really, it's this 
victory story. 

737
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:56,460
It's a story about overcoming 
and it's a story of obviously 

738
00:46:56,460 --> 00:47:00,220
the proof is there that God is 
using you and positioning you 

739
00:47:00,220 --> 00:47:03,180
for the Kingdom. 
So it's just amazing to see how 

740
00:47:03,340 --> 00:47:06,340
he works all things together for
the good of those who are called

741
00:47:06,340 --> 00:47:08,020
according to his will and 
purpose. 

742
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,120
And this is a heartfelt story 
that you're sharing with us here

743
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,840
on the Millennium Must Have Seed
podcast. 

744
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,960
And honestly, I'd love for you 
to come back for a Part 2. 

745
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,280
Stacy, is this story your 
journey? 

746
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,560
Your story is really going to 
speak to somebody out there. 

747
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,120
Amen. 
I've always tried to use my 

748
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,240
testimony to help others and to 
allow others to. 

749
00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:36,980
Help alleviate some of that that
stress and burden of going 

750
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:40,020
through things that they don't 
have to go through by sharing my

751
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:43,500
testimony and my my journey 
here. 

752
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:48,940
And hopefully I pray that it 
encourages whoever may hear this

753
00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:54,260
to continue pursuing God and and
His call on your life. 

754
00:47:54,260 --> 00:47:59,820
Because he is faithful and as 
the word says he will finish the

755
00:47:59,820 --> 00:48:03,680
good work that he started in you
amazing. 

756
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,240
And if you guys have been 
affected by Stacy's story, it's 

757
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:10,240
it's moved you deeply. 
You can connect with something 

758
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,400
that that she's went through or 
just the overcoming journey in 

759
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,400
general. 
Just seeing the goodness of God 

760
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,320
tasting and seeing that he is 
good. 

761
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,760
How he literally can take 
everything that was against us 

762
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,200
and flip it and bring it so that
it it's ammunition and power for

763
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,960
us to be able to help minister 
to other people. 

764
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,500
If you guys found that to be 
true on this episode, you guys 

765
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:33,460
write me an e-mail. 
Go to the the description, the 

766
00:48:33,460 --> 00:48:35,780
show notes, e-mail me. 
And. 

767
00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:39,740
And even if you want to come on 
the show and you want to talk 

768
00:48:39,740 --> 00:48:41,540
about something that you've been
through, that's what this 

769
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:44,980
podcast is for. 
You know, it's for glorifying 

770
00:48:44,980 --> 00:48:48,580
God, going through the difficult
topics, sharing our testimonies.

771
00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:54,260
And this was a powerful 1. 
Stacy, thank you so much for 

772
00:48:54,260 --> 00:48:55,660
being here with me on this 
recording. 

773
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:58,900
Thank you for having me, Rod. 
Absolutely. 

774
00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:00,620
And you're going to come back 
for a Part 2. 

775
00:49:00,620 --> 00:49:02,380
So that's it. 
That's the show. 

776
00:49:02,380 --> 00:49:05,820
You guys go leave me that five 
star rating and review that 

777
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:08,180
helps the show grow it. 
There's somebody else out there 

778
00:49:08,220 --> 00:49:11,060
that needs to hear this and 
that's how you guys can really 

779
00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:14,100
help us reach somebody else. 
And with all that being said, 

780
00:49:14,340 --> 00:49:16,060
God bless and goodbye.
