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Welcome to the Millennial 
Mustard Seed podcast. 

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Good afternoon. 
My name is Josh Monday. 

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I'm from the Josh Monday 
Christian and Conspiracy 

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Podcast. 
I also have a second show called

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Sunday Service. 
It's available on Colt 

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Conspiracy podcast. 
And I just want to welcome you 

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guys to the Mustard Seed 
podcast. 

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Sorry, I don't have the, is it 
the Mustard Seed podcast? 

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I'm sorry. 
Millennial mustard seed. 

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All right, the Millennial 
Mustard Seed podcast. 

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I'm sorry, guys. 
I apologize. 

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I kind of butchered that I 
didn't have it written down 

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before I started. 
So anyways, welcome to the 

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podcast and thank you Rod for 
having me on the show. 

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I really appreciate you. 
If you guys want to check out my

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YouTube it's Josh Monday music 
and podcast and my show that's, 

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you know, my normal show is Josh
Monday Christian Conspiracy 

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podcast. 
You can see it on audio 

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platforms and on on YouTube. 
All right, Josh, it's an honor 

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to be here with you, man. 
I think one of the coolest 

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things about this podcast, well,
I shouldn't say it like that, 

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but at the end of each show, in 
the fading out of the music, I 

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put little clips of behind the 
scenes conversations and I've 

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had a lot of people over the 
years that butcher the name of 

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the show. 
It's kind of hilarious, 

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actually. 
It's kind of become a theme 

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because when God gave me the 
name of the show, it's a tongue 

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twister. 
It's a mouthful, and you know, I

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had to go with it. 
But man, it's an honor to be 

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here with you. 
You host two different shows. 

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You got a YouTube channel. 
I found you through Enoch 

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Futures from the Rundown of our 
reality. 

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He's a good friend of the show 
over here. 

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He's actually a producer and a 
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me. 
And then I just found out we 

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have a mutual friend, Dave 
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Yes, yeah, Dave Beverly is super
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Yeah, I've had him on the show. 
I had some round tables with him

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on Biblical cosmology, Genesis 6
and I had him on a few different

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times. 
You know, he's a ex NASA 

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employee. 
So it kind of helps with the 

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exposing the, the lies, you 
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helps out. 
So he's a he's a great guy. 

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I love that guy. 
Shout out to to Dave. 

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I know he's probably going to 
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So David Beverly, shout out to 
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I love you bro. 
Yeah, Dave is a continued show 

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and guest here working on the 
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in with Doctor Laura Sanger. 
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of out to the public by the end 
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And yeah, he's been a great, you
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in the Lord behind the scenes. 
So definitely big shout out to 

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Dave Beverly. 
Now, Josh, you know kind of what

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I want to talk about with you. 
You had mentioned biblical 

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cosmology and and so I'm just 
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foundation. 
I've not covered extensively 

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Flat Earth versus globe earth or
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Actually dropped an episode 
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Duvall right at the same time 
that pastor, Oh geez, was it the

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two pastors did that? 
That Oh, yeah. 

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Pastor Dean. 
Pastor Dean Odel. 

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Odel. 
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And. 
And Greg Locke and I had Greg 

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Locke scheduled to come on the 
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You know, literally, I dropped 
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They dropped me. 
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I didn't get a message back 
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that debate came out. 
Me and Dan just wanted to, you 

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know, gently bring up scriptures
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when talking about biblical 
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I feel like the it's more of an 
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the word of God be superlative. 
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authoritative. 
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what I'm understanding that you 
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go through some scriptures and 
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biblical cosmology shows us. 
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the creators mouth himself. 
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though, dude? 
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that point? 
What does the journey look like?

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I know. 
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the service. 
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well. 
Thank you. 

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Yeah, military service. 
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then 2, two years inactive. 
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helicopters and I did water 
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military. 
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How I got to this point is 
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biblical cosmology. 
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the fake moon landing and 
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So I just went through and 
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biblical respective episode. 
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that it was biblical, and then I
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man, I've probably been on 50 
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doing the biblical cosmology 
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And I also have debated people 
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cosmology. 
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when you when you debate anybody
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they never bring up Bible 
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So which is very interesting. 
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what I like to do first is kind 
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Bible through, especially after 
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is like a floodgate when this 
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like, OK, now I want to look at 
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Like let all scripture, you 
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God. 
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like, oh, okay. 
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Numbers 12 verses 4 through 8, 
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to Aaron and Miriam saying that 
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and dreams, but when I come to 
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face. 
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mouth to mouth. 
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out also I go to Proverbs 35 
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God is pure. 
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their trust in Him. 
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rebuke you and you be found a 
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asked him a certain verse where 
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and immovable, what a lot of 
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say is, well, it's fixed and 
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of just letting the Scripture 
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So that's just a an example. 
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I like to go through. 
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understand that God, he cannot 
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It says it's in Titus 1-2, God 
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Hebrews 11/6 says it's 
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right? 
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Genesis, you got to understand 
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from the Most High. 
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story, when it comes to the 
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and Gomorrah, the Tower of 
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hand accounts from God because 
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time. 
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stuff, you'll understand Also in
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Isaiah, what solidifies those is
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prophets and visions and dreams.
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from the book of Ezekiel, that's
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anything like that, You know 
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from God himself, right? 
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visions were more like, oh, it's
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verse, I was like, wow, I can 
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coming straight from God. 
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serious now, you know, if that 
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Yeah, I mean, the Bible also 
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prophecy is the Lord Jesus 
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When we look at Revelation, it's
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Jesus. 
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together and I love that 
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to take our Bible seriously, we 
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God is communicating. 
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backlash that I'll get 
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Josh, there's 200 formats of 
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Is it parabolic? 
Is it, you know, like God 

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doesn't have wings. 
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under the wings of the Omaha and
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for but the context is so 
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So I believe the foundations 
when God is saying this is how I

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established this is the course 
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luminaries. 
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You know, I always say, I 
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unless it cannot be taken 
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say how how are you laying this 
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God, what are you trying to 
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Because you use imagery you 
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like a nonsensical basic level 
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mean, the kids can get it, but 
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people like ex NASA employees 
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calibrates, you know, at McMurdo
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most advanced technology that 
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that gets used in our earth. 
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having the guys next door like 
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conclusions, it's showing the 
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And every high and lofty thought
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imagination has to be brought 
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So you know, I love that you're 
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with scripture because that is 
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live my life by now. 
I wish more people would agree 

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and I feel like it it has the 
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wildfire. 
But OK, so this is how you get 

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to this belief. 
Now, you said you've been on 

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like 50 different shows. 
You kind of even do debating on 

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on this topic. 
So let's talk about the the 

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structure. 
What does biblical cosmology 

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actually look like? 
It's not a globe. 

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Describe it for us. 
OK, so one more verse. 

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I want to go over a quick So 
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hearing by the word of God. 
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I like people to know that 
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being produced? 
If you hear the word of God, yet

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you do not believe it. 
Also, when it comes to the 

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spiritual armor that we have, 
what is it? 

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What do we need for the 
defensive weapon to dodge the 

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walls of the devil? 
We need to shield the faith. 

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So what God, what the devil 
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to try to attack your faith? 
It's also impossible to please 

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God without faith. 
Hebrews 11 so we need to 

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understand that we need to 
understand that the devil is 

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going to attack your faith and 
the I'm sorry when I said it's 

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impossible for God to lie, 
that's actually Hebrew 618I 

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apologize. 
Sometimes my mind is going, but 

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so the devil is going to try to 
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If you got this little tiny 
shield and then you barely know 

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the word of God, you know, it's 
going to be very hard for you to

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defend, you know. 
So what I believe happens before

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we get into that, because I like
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first and then tell you what the
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So I could kind of, that's 
exactly what I do on debates and

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I like to do that here as well. 
But what we got to understand is

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the devil's going to put a block
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scriptures. 
And the way that he does that is

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when you come into school at the
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they're trying to even go to the
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you're getting hit with the 
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all this different things. 
And by the time you hit 12th 

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grade, you have evolution, you 
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you have the globe already 
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putting block walls between you 

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and the scriptures. 
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scriptures, you're like, this is
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talking about earlier. 
This is all poetry. 

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I can't take this serious. 
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scriptures is they'll take 
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the book of Proverbs or the, or 
the the Psalms, when it talks 

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about like Jesus is, you know, 
prophecies about Jesus or 

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prophecies about this, they'll 
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that literal. 
So it's just funny how they kind

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of go back and forth. 
But let's go over for your 

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audience what science says 
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how different it is from what 
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kind of give you a correlation 
here. 

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So First off, they say that 
Earth is at a 23.4° axis, right?

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It's spinning at 1000 miles an 
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It says that it's orbiting the 
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So what we got to understand is 
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actually travels at 1800 miles 
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So they say they were orbiting 
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bullet. 
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they taught me was that the sun 
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the planets go around the sun. 
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So I never knew this fact or 

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this scientific pseudoscience 
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They say that the they actually 
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at 440,000 miles an hour or 
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different, two different speeds.
When I looked it up and it's 

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moving and we have the earth 
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hour. 
And so it's moving 550,000 miles

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an hour as we chase the sun at 
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We have all that going on. 
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us at 2200 miles an hour, so 
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bullet, right? 
So we have that going on. 

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And then also, if you look at 
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be called Alpha Centauri. 
It's actually 4.4 light years 

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If you look up what a light year

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So if you take 6 trillion * 4.4,
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away is what they say. 
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Bible it says that God created 
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know, for times, for signs, for 
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earth. 
So if I was going to light up my

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kitchen, why am I going to put 
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kitchen, you know, 15 miles in 
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I'm not going to, I'm probably 
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closer and, and you know, it, it
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I probably wouldn't put them 24 
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93,000,000 miles away like the 
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And you know, it's just, it's 
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But any questions on anything 
that about the science portion 

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that I went over? 
No, yeah, that's that's pretty 

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good. 
Yeah. 

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So that way you guys kind of get
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And then also there's a the 
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talked about where they have The
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George Lamontre. 
He's a Belgian cosmologist, 

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Catholic priest, Jesuit trained,
right. 

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Most of the most of the 
cosmologist in, you know, in the

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Catholic Church are going to be 
Jesuits, right? 

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Which so if you're a conspiracy 
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you hear Jesuit or Freemason, 
then you should have a red flag 

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going up right away. 
So this guy was saying that 

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roughly 13.8 billion years ago, 
you know the size of a pin 

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exploded and then through 
gravity 13.6 billion years ago 

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the stars were formed. 
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years ago the sun was formed and
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earth was formed. 
Now this is kind of funny coming

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from a Catholic priest because 
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that the earth came first. 
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day three, basically the, the 
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day four, that's when the moon, 
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So totally inverted as far as 
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Because if you look at what the 
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way back to Adam, we're looking 
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years. 
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cosmology, you got 13.8 billion 
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So it's totally inverted and 
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teaching as far as what they 
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They want to have the backdrop 
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this the sun, this giant object 
so that they have gravity 

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forming. 
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forms after that is orbiting the
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So that's what they're trying to
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you look at the Bible, it's 
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everything was created. 
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and the and the stars are two 
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stars are the same things. 
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interesting as well. 
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that's part of this scientific 
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evolution. 
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started by Charles Darwin's 
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grandfather's a 33° Freemason. 
He's the one that started doing 

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this research. 
He took it, tried to hand it to 

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his son. 
His son was a preacher. 

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He said, I'm not having nothing 
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So we handed it to his grandson,
Charles Darwin. 

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And he's the one that took that 
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with it and and, you know, 
created the book and all that 

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stuff. 
So it's coming from a 33° Mason.

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So we got to understand that. 
All right, so those billions of 

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years are needed for evolution 
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why they have all these years 
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And so that's coming from a 
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So we have that now. 
We have one thing coming from a 

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Jesuit, one thing coming from a 
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So let's see what the last thing
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The last thing on this list is 
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heliocentric model, right? 
First off, we got to understand 

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what heliocentric is. 
We have to break that word down.

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South Helios is a Greek God 
centric means centered. 

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So you have a sun God centered 
solar system, right? 

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And soul is also a God and 
Native Americans, Latin America 

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soul is a God. 
So we have a solar system, a sun

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God system, like literally. 
So as a Christian, if you would 

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break the words down like most 
people don't do, now you have 

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something that's a little 
different, man. 

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You're like, OK, now. 
Now this is bringing religion 

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into it, which they act like 
it's not a religion at all, even

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if you do bring it up to them. 
But even the wordage think about

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that heliocentric and Helios is 
actually a lot of people feel 

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like that is actually Satan 
centered, you know, not just the

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sun God. 
Now it's let me just read you 

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guys real quick before I ask you
any like if you have any 

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questions, let me just read you 
Copernicus's writing so you 

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understand what I'm talking 
about that this is not just 

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scientific theories or 
pseudoscience. 

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This is literally a religion. 
Let's let's see what it says. 

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It says in the midst of all sits
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beautiful temple. 
Could we place this luminary in 

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any better position from which 
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once? 
He is rightly called the lamp. 

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Now let's pause there. 
He's calling him the lamp. 

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Now what is also called the lamp
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Revelation 22, it says that 
Jesus will be the lamp is going 

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to light up the earth. 
We no longer need the sun. 

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But what Copernicus is doing 
here is he's placing the lamp 

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enthroned in the most beautiful 
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That's what he's saying about 
the sun. 

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Now this is more like a God than
a son to me so far. 

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He says the mind, the rulers of 
the universe, Hermes Transgestus

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names him the visible God. 
Electric calls him the all 

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seeing. 
Now that's all seeing is kind of

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like, oh, now we're getting into
like Illuminati type stuff, the 

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all seeing eye and all that 
stuff. 

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And then it says, so the sun 
sits as upon a royal throne 

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ruling his children. 
The planets would circle around 

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him. 
The Earth has the moon at her 

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service, as Aristotle says on 
his animals. 

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The moon has the closest 
relationship with the Earth. 

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Meanwhile, the earth conceived 
by the sun and becomes pregnant 

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with the annual rebirth. 
You understand, like this is 

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all, this is more like religious
speak. 

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This is not like, hey, I'm 
scientific and, and I and I have

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this, you know, it, it is, it is
like more like a theory anyways,

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but you know, it, it's, it kind 
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So I just want people to realize
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atheist and you're trying to go 
against somebody, this is the 

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type of talk that they had for 
for these luminaries, you know? 

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Any thoughts, bro? 
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have thoughts racing through my 
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You know, I've heard this stuff 
before. 

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And what happens is the biblical
filter in me is screening and 

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testing the spirit of these 
things, the spirit of this age. 

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And so when you get to this 
point, and I know many listeners

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over here understand this, Josh,
that your framework is in 

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alignment with the word of God, 
you're you're beyond just 

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drinking the milk. 
You're starting to chew the 

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meat, as Hebrew says, getting 
into the deep things and 

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starting to reason. 
Come, let us reason together 

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right and all of this stuff when
you when you get educated, 

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right, because the Bible says in
all of your getting's, get 

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knowledge, get understanding and
proverbs. 

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It also says be wise as a 
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dove in the New Testament, 
right. 

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It also, and God is telling us 
to be as wise as the Nahash from

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Genesis three, that that's a 
high calling. 

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I believe that requires the 
Ruach, the Holy Spirit to be 

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able to even do that. 
I don't think it's the mind of 

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man. 
I think it's washing our mind in

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the word of God being 
transformed, renewing our mind, 

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right? 
So what you're bringing up all 

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of this scientific fact and all 
of this heliocentric model, 

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which by the way, Josh, I did 
not know that's what 

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heliocentric means, but you're 
saying stuff and it's clicking. 

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I'm like, Oh yeah, because I'm 
seeing the framework of the 

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enemy and I'm going, this is the
enemy's. 

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He's running the race to try to 
mimic God, to be omniscient, to 

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be omnipresent, right, To lift 
up his ideology above the the 

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shamayims or Hashemayim, as Dave
would say, right, The heavens 

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where God is seated. 
So he's casting a lie into the 

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realm that is the habitation of 
the most High according to the 

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word of God and letting the 
ideologies of man lead people 

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straight. 
So all that framework is is is 

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very pantheonistic or whatever 
you want to call this, right? 

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It's it's lofty. 
I believe the Bible when it says

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do not lend your, your ear to 
the, the the wives tales, right?

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These these demonic voices. 
I think the models of the world 

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today is what it's insinuating. 
But people have the audacity, 

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Josh, to say it's a fringe 
Christian who's listening to the

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doctrine of demons. 
But I think what we're doing 

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right, and it's growing by the 
grace of God, because we've been

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born for such a time as this is 
growing by the grace of God for 

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us to be able to actually 
understand these things and come

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before the throne and say, God, 
your word is it. 

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It's going to endure forever. 
Everything else will disappear, 

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but your word will endure. 
So if I'm building and I'm 

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casting not away my confidence 
on your word, there's a great 

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reward. 
So that that's my reflection on 

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everything that you just said. 
I see what the enemy's doing. 

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We're compartmentalizing the 
moves of the enemy, 

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excommunicating the the the 
demonic systems of the enemy in 

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order to become a prepared 
bride. 

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And and I'm seeing your effort 
at that. 

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So you know, yes. 
So to be collabing with you 

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here. 
Deuteronomy 419 says, and take 

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heed lest you lift up your eyes 
to heaven. 

446
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:14,240
When you see the sun, the moon, 
and the stars, all the hosts of 

447
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,120
heaven, you'll feel driven to 
worship them and serve them, 

448
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,720
which the Lord your God has 
given to all the people under 

449
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,800
the whole heaven as a heritage. 
So it's warning you not to 

450
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,200
worship the moon, sun, and the 
stars. 

451
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,960
Like that's literally in 
Deuteronomy. 

452
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,640
And that's what they're doing. 
What you see all these 

453
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,360
documentaries about the universe
and all this is beautiful and 

454
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:34,320
then this and it's all like 
artist depiction. 

455
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,200
It's not even real, but they're 
like flying by Jupiter. 

456
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,760
Like look at Jupiter, it's so 
beautiful. 

457
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,960
It's massive, it's huge. 
It's got this, it's got this 

458
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,120
storm has been there for 90 
billion years, whatever, you 

459
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,640
know what I mean? 
So it's just all about worship. 

460
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,480
And, and you find out that when 
you get into these debates with 

461
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,560
these people, literally it's 
hard to peel that back that 

462
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,320
onion for them. 
They're like, they're stuck, 

463
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,560
even if they're Christian and 
they, they try to come and I'm 

464
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,480
like literally going verse by 
verse by verse by verse, like 

465
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,440
it's you just still can't peel 
back then. 

466
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,600
And but it's all about grace 
And, and it's like, hey, it's a,

467
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,320
it's all good. 
All I'm trying to do really is 

468
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,160
show, show people certain 
things. 

469
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,120
But you know, it's, it's, you 
could see that it's really 

470
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,560
deeply ingrained And, and it's, 
you know, there's nothing new 

471
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,800
under the sun. 
So what happens is an 

472
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,920
Ecclesiastia. 
It says that. 

473
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,960
And that's what's going on, 
because if you go to Nimrod, if 

474
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:27,920
you go to Isis, Osiris, you go 
to Apollo, you go to all these 

475
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,440
different sun gods, Mithra, 
these are all sun gods, right? 

476
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,160
And literally that's what it's 
about. 

477
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,360
It's about worshipping the sun, 
the same thing that God says not

478
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,520
to do in Deuteronomy. 
So the devil, he's just very 

479
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,880
crafty, you know, So it's, it's 
the same thing that we're 

480
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,560
dealing with. 
And also if you go to NASA as 

481
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,920
well, like if you go to that, 
that word NASA, it's called 

482
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,640
Nisha in the Hebrew. 
It is it's Genesis 317. 

483
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,600
It's basically when, when, when 
Eve got beguiled by Satan. 

484
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,440
If you've clicked that in the 
strong St. coordinates, it 

485
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,760
actually says NASA, NASA. 
So I think that's really 

486
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,240
interesting. 
People need to understand you're

487
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,320
getting beguiled. 
And also, I mean, we get root 

488
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,560
understandings for nauseous from
that, which means to be overcome

489
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,400
or overtaken. 
I've looked into that. 

490
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,720
That's very provocative because 
we think if you get nauseous, 

491
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,800
it's it's an onset. 
It just comes upon you because 

492
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,440
Adam was not beguiled or 
deceived, though he stood. 

493
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,320
Yeah. 
Anyway, we're not. 

494
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,760
Yeah, I'm. 
I'm rocking with you on that. 

495
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,200
That's very interesting. 
It, it really is. 

496
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,160
And people will go NASA, they 
don't care about the Hebrew. 

497
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,880
They don't. 
But dude, it's, it's like it's 

498
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,120
not, we're not like we don't 
wrestle against flesh and blood.

499
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,440
We're wrestling against 
principalities of evil, right? 

500
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,920
It says worldly governors, if 
you go back to the Geneva Bible.

501
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,480
So we're not only wrestling 
against flesh and blood, but 

502
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,160
principalities of evil. 
So when you try to tell me it's 

503
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,440
not, it's not spiritual, 
everything that we deal with, if

504
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,280
it is spiritual, no matter what 
you think, and, and, and the, 

505
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:59,720
the devil is the father of lies,
right? 

506
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:03,480
So he's going to, whether he 
could give you 90% truth, 10% 

507
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,960
lie or 100% lie, it doesn't 
matter. 

508
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,240
He just wants to be able to, he 
wants to be able to poison the 

509
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,920
well. 
And that's what's happening, you

510
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,080
know, so I, I'm seeing it really
with, with, you know, a lot with

511
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,480
NASA and all that. 
And, and when I'm debating these

512
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,440
different people, you know, but 
all love, like I said, though, 

513
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,760
you know, but so let's, let's go
to what the Bible says now. 

514
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,520
So, so imagine Moses, he's on 
Mount Sinai for 40 days and 40 

515
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,680
nights speaking to God face to 
face, right? 

516
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,240
So he's downloading this 
information. 

517
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,240
God's teaching him the law. 
He's teaching him how he created

518
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,120
the heavens and the earth. 
And Moses is writing it even 

519
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,640
says in, I think it says in, in,
in the Torah. 

520
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,080
I can't remember where it's at. 
I think it's Exodus. 

521
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,040
It says that that that Moses 
wrote down everything God said, 

522
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,680
right. 
So we got to understand that 

523
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,400
he's he's downloading this 
information. 

524
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,960
And if God was talking to us, 
are we really going to like say,

525
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,880
oh, thanks God for your 
information, but let me just 

526
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,240
write my own thing. 
No, he's going to understand 

527
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,120
what God is saying. 
And the argument that a lot of 

528
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:07,600
people have is that the book of 
Genesis was talked to, taught, 

529
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,600
taught to Moses this way because
he's not able to understand that

530
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,600
the the science of today. 
But what I will tell you right 

531
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,640
now is he had a, a blank slate. 
And also what I'll tell you is 

532
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,760
that God cannot lie, right? 
It says in Titus 1/2 that he 

533
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,480
cannot lie. 
It says in Hebrews that it's 

534
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,440
impossible for God to lie. 
And it also says that he is not 

535
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,480
less a man in Deuteronomy that 
he should lie. 

536
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,680
And then also says in Romans 
3-4, let God be true and every 

537
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,520
man a liar, right? 
So we got to understand this. 

538
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,640
So let's let's let's look at 
the, the the lens of that going 

539
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,640
into the book of Genesis and see
what it says. 

540
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:53,320
So we got Genesis one verse one.
It says in the beginning, Elohim

541
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,320
or God created the Shamayim and 
the Eret, which is the earth and

542
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,960
the earth was without form and 
void. 

543
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,600
So the continents were not 
formed yet. 

544
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,040
That doesn't happen until day 
three. 

545
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,480
It says the darkness is upon the
face of the deep. 

546
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,440
The deep is the abuso that is 
going to be water. 

547
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,800
And it says and, and, and the 
Spirit of God moved upon the 

548
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,400
face of the waters. 
So day one you have he created 

549
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,760
light, separated light from the 
darkness. 

550
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,840
And day one was done. 
Now day 2, God creates the 

551
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,480
firmament, right? 
And he separated the waters from

552
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,840
the waters. 
So now we have water. 

553
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,800
And then this firmament created 
where He separated the waters 

554
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,800
from the waters. 
Now that word is rakia. 

555
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,920
It says in the strongest 
concordance that it's extended 

556
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,240
surface and in parentheses it 
says solid, it's expanse 

557
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,640
firmament, expanse, flattest 
base support firmament of vault,

558
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,480
dependent supporting waters 
above and below. 

559
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,960
That it says considered by 
Hebrews as solid supporting the 

560
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,520
waters above. 
So the reason why they think 

561
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:56,080
that is because of Genesis 18 
where it says, I'll give you 

562
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,520
guys what it says in the CJB 
real quick. 

563
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,960
The CJB is the complete Jewish 
Bible. 

564
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,120
I, I go through the King James, 
I go through all different 

565
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,760
versions. 
And when when I saw this 

566
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,360
version, I'm like, wow, they try
to stay too true to the Hebrew 

567
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,640
and it says here it says God 
said, let there be a Dome in the

568
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,680
middle of the water. 
Instead of saying firmament, 

569
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,480
they say Dome, let it divide the
water from the water. 

570
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,240
God made the Dome and divided 
the water Under the Dome from 

571
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,360
the water above the Dome. 
And it was so. 

572
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,600
And God called the Dome sky. 
And the King James and all the 

573
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,760
other versions says God called 
the Dome heaven, right? 

574
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,520
So if you think about it so far,
you have God separating the 

575
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,080
light from the darkness. 
It says that in the beginning 

576
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,080
God created the heavens and the 
earth. 

577
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,560
You can either take that as a 
title statement like some people

578
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,360
do. 
I take it as God created the 

579
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,040
heavens and the earth. 
He created where his throne is 

580
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,640
located and he created where the
moon, sun and the stars were 

581
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,560
going to be located. 
And when it says the earth, it 

582
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200
doesn't mean like the globe. 
It could mean dirt. 

583
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,600
It can mean territory or laid 
the foundations. 

584
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,960
I personally believe you laid 
the foundations right here. 

585
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,080
But you know, that's kind of 
conjecture. 

586
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,720
Depends. 
Some people, you know, they 

587
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880
debate that often, but so I have
that going on. 

588
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,520
So day 2, you have the firmament
being created. 

589
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,200
So you have a solid Dome placed 
over, I believe, the foundations

590
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,280
of the earth. 
That's what I believe is 

591
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,520
happening right there. 
Day three, God created the 

592
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,960
oceans, the dry land, which is 
the continents, plants and 

593
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,320
vegetation. 
So you have the dry land, and 

594
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,720
God called the dry land earth, 
right? 

595
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,760
So before what was earth called?
I think that earth was 

596
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,720
foundations. 
That's what I believe it was 

597
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,760
called. 
Now he's calling the dry land 

598
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,160
earth, right? 
So which is the continents now? 

599
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,040
Day 4, God created the moon, sun
and the stars also. 

600
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,600
Okay, so we got to understand 
that. 

601
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,280
So now it wasn't until day four 
God created the moon, sun of the

602
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,400
stars, right? 
So the very interesting thing 

603
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,560
about that is he said he created
the greater light to rule the 

604
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,880
day, which is the sun, the 
lesser light to rule the night, 

605
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520
which is the moon. 
So 2 great lights, right? 

606
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040
Not, not one reflecting off the 
other. 

607
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,200
He created the the sun and the 
moon, 2 great lights. 

608
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,680
And, and like I said earlier, he
created them for signs, for 

609
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,800
seasons, for times, for years, 
and also to light up the earth. 

610
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,520
So he created these things to 
light up the earth. 

611
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,960
He didn't create these things 
and he placed them in the 

612
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,320
firmament. 
That's another thing we got to 

613
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,840
understand. 
So they're going to be under the

614
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,320
firmament, right? 
So inside the firmament, that's 

615
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,800
what that means. 
So what I got, we got understand

616
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,680
is he made him to light up the 
Earth. 

617
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,440
Now an interesting thing is when
you go to the Book of 

618
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,440
Revelation, you have all the 
stars falling to the Earth, 

619
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,440
right? 
So how does that make sense in a

620
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,520
heliocentric model? 
It doesn't. 

621
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,800
But if you have a firmament with
all the moon and the stars in 

622
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,320
the firmament, right, and the 
firmament is connected to the 

623
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,280
Earth, then all the stars or 
luminaries can fall to the 

624
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,920
Earth. 
There's no problem with that. 

625
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920
So that's what I like to connect
to this first because it's 

626
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,240
telling you right there that all
the moons and the stars are in 

627
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,720
the in the firmament. 
Any questions on this so far 

628
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,120
bro? 
No, yeah, I'm good with it. 

629
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,280
I'm tracking with you. 
I'm just opening the coordinates

630
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,400
and looking at root words and 
just. 

631
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,040
Oh yeah, that's good to do, bro.
I do that. 

632
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,200
I do that a lot. 
Of kind of following along with 

633
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,920
you checking some stuff out. 
Perfect. 

634
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,720
Yep, I do that too. 
When, when, when I have a guest 

635
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,280
on trying to trying to find out 
the the deeper meaning to to 

636
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,120
what we're talking about. 
So now, so in the heliocentric 

637
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,480
model, you would need the sun 
first, you know, then the earth 

638
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440
and then the, the, the planets 
are, they're called wandering 

639
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,240
stars in the Bible, right? 
First off, we got to understand 

640
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,040
that, that in the Bible, the 
earth is fixed and immovable, 

641
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,200
right? 
And, and, and make sense on the 

642
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,960
model that I'm talking about, 
fixed and immovable would be 

643
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,080
like the basement is the earth. 
It, it's stationary. 

644
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,280
You have the firmament and then 
you have the moon, sun of the 

645
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,520
stars in the firmament motion 
and the, excuse me, and the 

646
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,440
stars moving, not the earth. 
It's fixed and immovable. 

647
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,720
We'll go over a couple verses 
here. 

648
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,400
Zechariah 111 says, And they 
answered the Angel of the Lord 

649
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,120
that stood among the Myrtle 
trees, and said, We have walked 

650
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,640
to and fro through the earth, 
and behold, all the earth 

651
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,200
sitteth still and is at rest. 
First Chronicles 1630 trembled 

652
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,080
before him all the earth. 
The world is also firmly 

653
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,600
established. 
It shall not be moved. 

654
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,640
We have Psalms 93.1 the Lord 
reigns, He is closed with 

655
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,040
majesty. 
The Lord is closed. 

656
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,760
He has girded himself with 
strength. 

657
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,960
Surely the world is established 
so that it cannot be moved. 

658
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,480
And then we have Psalms 9610, 
the Lord Lord reigns, that was 

659
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,240
firmly established, so it should
not be moved. 

660
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,560
He shall judge the people 
righteously. 

661
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,560
And then in Psalms one, O 4-5, 
it says you who laid the 

662
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,440
foundations of the earth so that
it shall not be moved forever, 

663
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,440
right? 
So we have that. 

664
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,120
So now what we do see in the 
Bible sometimes is that you'll 

665
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,680
see like the earthquakes or the 
earth shakes or the earth 

666
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,720
wobbles. 
Now these are earthquakes, which

667
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,880
can be explainable. 
Now, you know, so it's not 

668
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000
talking about the whole earth 
shaking. 

669
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,320
It's talking about, you know, 
the the earthquakes or something

670
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,000
like this, like an earthquake is
talking about, right. 

671
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,200
And what I think is interesting 
is it it sometimes it's in Joel 

672
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,199
210, which is like this is like 
end times type stuff. 

673
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,000
That's prophetic. 
It says that when the earth 

674
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,280
trembles, the heavens shakes as 
well. 

675
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,760
The heavens tremble as well. 
Now how why would that even 

676
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,880
happen? 
Well, I believe that the earth 

677
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,000
is connected to the firmament 
and heaven is connected to the 

678
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,520
earth, right? 
But even speaks about that in 

679
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,920
Amos. 
But so we, we have that. 

680
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,159
And another thing I want to go 
over is Proverbs 827 to 29. 

681
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,760
Now this one says, when he 
established the heavens, I 

682
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,679
wisdom was there when he drew a 
circle upon the face of the 

683
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,000
deep, when he made firm the 
skies above. 

684
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,239
We'll stop there real quick. 
So he made firm the skies above.

685
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,639
If you click on firm, it'll be 
strong or it'll be solid, right?

686
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,800
So he made the the skies solid, 
all right? 

687
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Not gases, not, you know, not 
space, not nothing. 

688
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,080
No, he made the skies solid, 
right? 

689
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,240
It says when the fountains of 
the springs of the deep became 

690
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,720
fixed and strong, when he's set 
for the sea, it's boundaries. 

691
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:09,720
So the waters cannot be 
transgressed. 

692
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,640
The boundaries are set by his 
command when he marked out the 

693
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,280
foundations of the earth. 
So there's there's boundaries 

694
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,360
for the waters. 
So there is a a map that it's 

695
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,680
called the AE map. 
Now, is this accurate to the 

696
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,400
Bible? 
I have no idea, but it's very 

697
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,560
interesting that on the outside 
is Antarctica, right? 

698
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,320
It's like ice wall and the 
waters cannot transgress. 

699
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,640
I could kind of maybe connect 
that to that. 

700
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Not saying the AE map is 
biblical or is truth. 

701
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,760
I'm not sure, but I can maybe 
connect that to it. 

702
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,520
But the, the very interesting 
thing is he made the skies firm,

703
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,880
which, which, which matches up 
with the firmament being solid. 

704
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,320
That's why it's called the 
firmament and not a softament. 

705
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,280
You know, it's like, and then 
also when he when he made the 

706
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,720
fountains of the springs of the 
deep became fixed and strong. 

707
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:56,400
If they're mentioning that, 
because those during the flood 

708
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,680
obviously broke, which I'll go 
over a little bit later. 

709
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,920
But like I said, any any 
questions on any of that stuff? 

710
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,760
Yeah, I mean, like highlights 
for me. 

711
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,120
I don't know what this does for 
other people's brains, but when 

712
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,480
I hear this stuff, I'm thinking 
what is the faces of the deep, 

713
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,840
right. 
Yeah. 

714
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,320
Like we talked about the 
firmament. 

715
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,800
We talked about it being a, a 
placement. 

716
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,360
We have plateau or a firm flat 
space. 

717
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,200
Luminaries are put into the 
firmament, right? 

718
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,840
And we have at rats, which is 
the, you know, the, the, the, 

719
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,240
the basic material, the dirt, 
the dust, the stone of the 

720
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:34,440
materials of the earth, but 
faces of the deep right where 

721
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,360
where the Bible talks about the 
pillars of the earth. 

722
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,680
Personally, I think torodial is 
an interesting idea to look at 

723
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,880
right where it's like we all 
have a little bit something 

724
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,000
wrong and we all have a little 
something right now. 

725
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,840
God's word doesn't have nothing 
wrong with it other than some 

726
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,320
bad translations and miss 
misguided people without all the

727
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,520
Holy Spirit using the word of 
God for who knows what reasons. 

728
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,760
But I'm looking at the faces of 
the deep and I'm looking at the 

729
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,840
idea just like the heavens, the 
shamayim, there's three heavens,

730
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960
right? 
It's it's realm almost Because 

731
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,080
OK, so when we look even at the 
scientific approach where we 

732
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:17,040
have volume and mass and matter 
and how that's calculated and 

733
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,040
how quickly it moves and all, 
you know, whatever me and Enoch,

734
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,240
we like to talk about this, you 
know, not the holographic 

735
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,120
universe. 
I'm not insinuating that. 

736
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,800
But when I look at the heavenly 
luminaries, right, The stars, 

737
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,240
for example, when you really 
start to do like that, I think 

738
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,720
the channels called the truth 
about stars and even with your 

739
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,120
own eye, you start to think like
man, twinkle twinkle little 

740
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,040
star, how I wonder what you are 
like. 

741
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,080
Look at what they're seeding 
into the minds. 

742
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,200
Like they're they're literally 
putting that in your head as a 

743
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,840
kid so that you think mystery of
it, but not mystery from from 

744
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,360
the Hebrew mindset, but from the
Greek mindset, a concealed 

745
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,040
thing. 
It should be an unraveling a 

746
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,840
learning, right? 
And it's like, OK, So what is 

747
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,080
the faces of the deep? 
So if the heavens do go up, if 

748
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,360
the devil is is trying to make 
his ascension with these, I will

749
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000
these I am statements. 
If anybody out there actually 

750
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,400
understands what I'm saying when
I say that and he wants to lift 

751
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,600
up his ideologies into these 
realms. 

752
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,000
What about the these pillars? 
What about the faces of the 

753
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,920
deep? 
I think that that's very 

754
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,600
provocative to kind of slow down
for a second and just look at 

755
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,720
I'm a speculator. 
I'm a researcher also and I'm a 

756
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,840
prayer guy. 
So I'll do all three. 

757
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,880
Right now. 
I'm not prayerfully, but it but 

758
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,360
I'm I'm being triggered that 
that this is a continual thing 

759
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,360
that pops up when I'm hearing 
these conversations of 

760
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,200
importance. 
Does that mean realms with the 

761
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,320
Lord? 
Are we talking like dimensional 

762
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,960
barriers? 
Very possibly, in my opinion. 

763
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,680
You know, because we have 
Tartarus, we have the bosom of 

764
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,200
Abraham, we have hell, or, you 
know, it's not actually even 

765
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,800
hell in the English. 
We're just getting this holding 

766
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,240
place. 
We have the fiery pit. 

767
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,040
God has all these different 
layers of reality to his created

768
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,360
state, just like he moves 
through the elementals in the 

769
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,240
Bible, Josh, we got angels 
coming through fire. 

770
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,600
And like all this, you know, in 
biblical cosmology, they're 

771
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,200
coming through. 
Yeah. 

772
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,960
Let's see what We could hash 
this for a minute. 

773
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,320
Let's see what. 
The Bible says real quick. 

774
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,600
So, so the Bible talks about 
shield being in the earth. 

775
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,320
Yeah. 
Like there's three different 

776
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,800
layers. 
So it's I don't think it's like 

777
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,360
a realm or like a different 
dimension because there's no 

778
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,520
there's no word. 
I'm just saying this is just my 

779
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,160
personal. 
This is my personal belief, 

780
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,560
right. 
So I do believe, you know, is it

781
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,040
another dimension spiritually? 
Yeah. 

782
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,600
I mean, yeah, I think there's a 
good point there. 

783
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:40,560
But the Bible talks about in in 
Philippians 211, it's speaking 

784
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,240
about every knee will bow. 
And what does it say? 

785
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,440
It says this is 3 tiers. 
Every knee is going to bow in 

786
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,680
heaven, every knee is going to 
bow on earth and every knee is 

787
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,000
going to bow under the earth. 
So dude, there's a three tier 

788
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,760
system that the Bible is always 
using. 

789
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,560
I have a show that I do called 
the location of Shield location 

790
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,840
of hell. 
And I believe they always talk 

791
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,240
about it being down. 
And then when you're a child, 

792
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,120
what do you believe? 
You believe hell is down? 

793
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,280
And the earth and you believe 
heaven is up and that's 

794
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,240
literally what it is bro. 
God's throne is above the 

795
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:12,640
firmament. 
That's the 3rd heaven. 

796
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,320
That's what's. 
Got this his footstool. 

797
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,760
So literally where he's his head
is at is is up. 

798
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,680
And up that's it. 
I'm going to go through all 

799
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,000
that, bro, it's going to come. 
It's going to come. 

800
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,840
But anyways, so we got to 
understand that. 

801
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,600
And it's and also it talks about
being down in the underworld. 

802
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,120
You're going to go down to hell.
Who's going to be able to open 

803
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,760
these seals? 
Nobody on earth or nobody in 

804
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,280
heaven, nobody on earth or 
nobody under the earth. 

805
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,760
So it's it's covering all bases 
of All Souls that have ever 

806
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,840
walked the face of the earth. 
So we got to understand that. 

807
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,840
Very interesting. 
So let me just make one quick 

808
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,400
clarification because we're 
we're on the same page. 

809
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,720
I'm just going to use some 
hermeneutical hygiene real fast.

810
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,640
It's like going through a 
doorway, a door. 

811
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,400
It's a door in English, right? 
But it takes you into the, the 

812
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,520
cavity or the realm of another 
room. 

813
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,160
So what I'm saying like 
dimensions or realms, I believe 

814
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,960
like the with the 
principalities, powers, rulers 

815
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:03,120
and dominions, we have aerial 
things going on with spiritual 

816
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,640
legalities and conditions. 
So I believe that there's 

817
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,800
pockets, right? 
Just like the Bible says, 

818
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,360
blessed is the man of God where 
his heel touches down, it 

819
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,040
belongs to the Lord there. 
And cursed is this because of 

820
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,480
the wicked, right? 
Cursed is the man who trusts in 

821
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,680
in man and not in God. 
So there's nations and 

822
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,800
populations and and positions on
this earth that are in the fear 

823
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,440
of man, but not in the 
recollection of God. 

824
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,880
So I believe that the spiritual 
atmosphere really does is kind 

825
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,640
of experientially for the 
believer and non believer create

826
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,280
a spiritual warfare environment,
right? 

827
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,680
You're talking earlier about the
shield, the size of that shield 

828
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,360
of faith. 
What are you able to block out? 

829
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,240
Well, I got a big God, so that 
means I have a big thought 

830
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,240
process towards all this. 
And if the enemy's this big God 

831
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:48,200
is bigger, God's greater than 
the weird and deep things of the

832
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,200
enemy, we can figure out even 
the deceptions, God is bigger. 

833
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,760
So dimensionality for me when 
I'm saying that to be a little 

834
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,600
bit more precise, it's like the 
spiritual of cause and effect of

835
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,280
the battle that we're in. 
Because one person who's a 

836
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,680
believer can be in a room and it
could be like somebody comes in 

837
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,760
and it gets tense and you're 
picking up spiritual warfare. 

838
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,760
And somebody who's oblivious, 
who's just living by the 

839
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,160
standard of the world has no 
idea that the atmosphere just 

840
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,120
shift in this place that there's
a battle taking place. 

841
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,440
So I think that a lot of the 
times us as deep believers can 

842
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,600
start to understand realms based
on the the principalities, 

843
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,760
powers and rulers. 
But then also there's there's an

844
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,120
entrance point, like a doorway 
into another room. 

845
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,600
Like right here, I have the door
into my kitchen and it's like I 

846
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,480
can't walk through the wall now.
Yeshua Ken, he was the first of 

847
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,440
the risen and through walls he 
did walk. 

848
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,680
But right now in our temporary 
standpoint. 

849
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,040
So that's what I mean, Josh, I'm
not insanely waiting like the 

850
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,400
the multiverse where it's like 
there's possibilities. 

851
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,520
I don't even take it that way. 
Biblically, we we can, we can 

852
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,800
look in the cosmology, in this 
umbrella of thought and 

853
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,840
Scripture and say, yeah, there's
some pocket realm effects going 

854
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,680
on here. 
Yeah, that just interesting to 

855
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,400
think about. 
It's interesting because it says

856
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,080
that there's spiritual 
wickedness in high places. 

857
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,320
Now, what does that mean? 
Oh, that means that they're 

858
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,200
going to be, they're, they're 
high up in the, whatever the, 

859
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,320
the, you know, the order of the 
devil. 

860
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,680
No, dude. 
It means that there's spiritual 

861
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,840
wickedness in high places. 
What does that mean? 

862
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,880
That there's spiritual battles 
happening where the moon, sun 

863
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,320
and the stars are located. 
How do I know that? 

864
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,320
Go to the book of Daniel and 
there's a fight between heaven 

865
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,800
and earth. 
Who's fighting? 

866
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,600
Well, there's an Angel coming 
down that's going to try to 

867
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,480
answer Daniel's prayer. 
And what happens? 

868
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,880
He has to call on Michael the 
Archangel to come fight the 

869
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,960
Prince of Persia. 
And where are they fighting? 

870
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,080
They're fighting in the air. 
What is the devil? 

871
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,480
He's the He's the Prince of the 
air. 

872
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,440
So. 
What are the stars? 

873
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,080
Well, I'll tell you what bro. 
In the book of Enoch, if you go 

874
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,720
extra biblical text, it says 
that 10,000 of the stars are 

875
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,440
judged. 
It says in the book of Jude that

876
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,520
these wandering stars are 
judged. 

877
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,280
Why? 
Why are the wandering stars 

878
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,440
judged and what are the why are 
they called wandering stars In 

879
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,840
the 1st place? 
Because they're not doing the 

880
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,480
movement that God originally 
planned from them to do so. 

881
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,400
The wandering stars are called 
Jupiter, they're called Saturn. 

882
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,240
They're called all these names 
because that are all those are 

883
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:16,000
actually literally Roman gods. 
So they want you to worship 

884
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,360
these things. 
And so think about it. 

885
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,000
They're wandering stars. 
So they're they're going, 

886
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,320
they're disobeying God's order, 
right? 

887
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,960
So yeah. 
They're not in stars. 

888
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,520
They are not in orbit. 
Yeah, that's, that's not in 

889
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,560
orbiting. 
Yeah, yeah. 

890
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,400
No, they're orbiting. 
No, they're not. 

891
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,560
They're actually doing. 
That's the way it's inverted. 

892
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,320
But think about it. 
Yes, it's inverted. 

893
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,840
That was key. 
That's a cultic. 

894
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,960
It's inverted. 
It's the upside down world flip 

895
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,640
flop. 
And there's only like a few, 

896
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,600
maybe two or three times in the 
Old Testament that stars are 

897
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,400
being referenced not in 
alignment with future 

898
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,040
generations. 
Think about that. 

899
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,000
And the correlation between 
angels. 

900
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,440
Angels, well, it's 
interchangeable at some places. 

901
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,760
So, okay, Josh, I'm in agreement
with you. 

902
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,760
I don't believe what NASA is 
saying. 

903
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,600
I don't believe the prescribed 
narrative of what the world 

904
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,800
pushes. 
Now, I agree with Flat Earth to 

905
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,040
the extent of certain things, 
right, but but the whole entire 

906
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:10,400
Flat Earth idea, I have troubles
with sections of it. 

907
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,200
I want to be authentic. 
I don't just want to nod my head

908
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,880
and say yes and Amen to 
everything I hear. 

909
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,920
I need to let the process 
happen. 

910
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,520
But biblical cosmology I have no
issues with. 

911
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,360
And, and I'd love the points 
that you're bringing up here 

912
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,240
because this is what needs to be
rattled out into the millennial 

913
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,560
generation. 
We need to start seeding these 

914
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,840
ideas. 
So I didn't mean to cut you off 

915
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,880
there, man, but no worries. 
Everything you're saying is 

916
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,880
awesome. 
I love having a back and forth 

917
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,320
talk. 
Sometimes I have to information 

918
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,360
download for some people that 
have no clue. 

919
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,920
At least you're like a bunch of 
steps ahead bro and you know 

920
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,640
what's going on so. 
That's that's how I process 

921
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,920
information. 
When people talk, it triggers 

922
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,440
things that weren't like, I 
didn't wake up this morning and 

923
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,520
got. 
So these are all the things I'm 

924
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,600
going to say to Josh. 
I'm like, you're triggering 

925
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,720
stuff that has been hidden in 
there, you know? 

926
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,920
So all right, so let's look at 
what the Bible says about the 

927
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,040
moon and the sun moving, right? 
I already talked about how the 

928
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,000
earth is fixed and immovable. 
Now verses about the sun and the

929
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,200
moon moving. 
Joshua 1012 is one of those 

930
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,400
verses. 
It says then spoke Joshua to the

931
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,440
Lord in the day when the Lord 
delivered up the Amorites before

932
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,920
the children of Israel, and he 
said in the sight of Israel sun 

933
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,880
stand still upon Gibeon, and 
thou moon in the valley of 

934
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,160
Ajean. 
Now we have the moon and the sun

935
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,560
standing still in two 
geographical locations. 

936
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,480
And it says and the sun stood 
still and the moon stayed until 

937
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,360
the people that events their 
enemies upon their upon 

938
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,480
themselves upon their enemies. 
Is it not written in the book of

939
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,880
Jasher? 
So it's actually telling you 

940
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,080
that it's written in the book of
Jasher and if you go to the book

941
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,520
of Jasher talks about the sun 
and the moon standing still till

942
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Joshua Avengers enemies. 
So it literally says that. 

943
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,720
So the sun stood still in the 
midst of heaven and has not go 

944
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:49,360
down about a whole day. 
Now an interesting thing about 

945
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,520
go down, if you look up in the 
Hebrew Ecclesiastes 1/5 when it 

946
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,360
says arise and it says to go 
down and means to go away from 

947
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,600
and to come forth. 
Just so you guys know it doesn't

948
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,560
mean to go down. 
But we also have the sun and the

949
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,320
moon stopping in two geographic 
locations until they avenge 

950
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,960
their enemies. 
If you understand, if you're 

951
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,400
reading the Bible and you just 
read that verse and take it 

952
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,280
literally for what's happening 
or your perspective on what 

953
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,080
Earth would be, what do you see?
The sun and the moon moving. 

954
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,320
The earth is at rest. 
And still that's what we feel. 

955
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,160
That's what we see. 
But they stopped in two 

956
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,840
geographical locations. 
Now, if you're in the 

957
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,400
heliocentric model, then what 
would happen is God would have 

958
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,240
to stop the sun from moving 
550,000 miles an hour. 

959
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,640
He would have to stop the moon 
from moving 2300 miles an hour 

960
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,880
and have to stop the Earth from 
moving 66,000 miles an hour. 

961
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,520
And scientifically, if you want 
to be a scientific person, 

962
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,800
everything on earth would, would
fall off the earth. 

963
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,880
That's what they say. 
They, they said that the polar 

964
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,760
shifts would happen and 
everybody would die. 

965
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,320
Now God can do miracles, yes, 
but why is it that Joshua is 

966
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,840
doing this prayer saying sun 
stand still, moon stand still, 

967
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,480
and that's what God does. 
It doesn't say anything about 

968
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,400
the earth standing still because
the earth is already at rest and

969
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,960
the moon and the sun are what? 
Moving. 

970
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,760
And God is the one that controls
that, you know. 

971
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,760
But it also says later on in the
verse that God never did that 

972
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,200
again, never did in the past and
never did it again in the 

973
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,160
future. 
And he will never do that again.

974
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,360
He'll never stop the moon and 
the sun from moving. 

975
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,680
But we have two witnesses on 
that as well, Habakkuk 311 and 

976
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,880
also the book of Jasher SO3 
witnesses. 

977
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,920
But in scripture we Habakkuk 311
saying the sun and mood stood 

978
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,640
still in their habitation, which
is like the habitation is like 

979
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,760
their home. 
Their home is what inside the 

980
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,800
firmament at the light of thine 
arrows they went and they 

981
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,120
shining of the glittering 
Spears. 

982
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,640
So this is talking about that 
Joshua event 2 witnesses 

983
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,080
speaking about the sun and the 
moon standing still. 

984
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,240
And I think it's fascinating, 
right? 

985
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,360
So we have that. 
And then another one we have is 

986
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,840
Isaiah 38, seven through 8. 
It says, and this is the sign to

987
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,160
the Lord that the Lord will do 
this thing which he has spoken, 

988
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,360
Behold, I will bring the shadow 
of the sundial which has gone 

989
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,680
down with the sun on the sundial
of it has 10° backwards. 

990
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,680
So it's not going down, it's 
going away from. 

991
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:20,040
So what's happening is he made 
the sun go 10° backwards is what

992
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,800
he said, because the person 
said, I don't want you to make 

993
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,600
it go forwards. 
I want to make it go backwards. 

994
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,960
It's a better miracle. 
And God did that. 

995
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,560
The shadow of the sundial, The 
sun is a dial, dude. 

996
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,840
It's like a clock in the sky. 
And God is able to reverse that 

997
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,360
no problem, because who controls
what the moon, sun and the stars

998
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,600
do? 
Gravity. 

999
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,000
No, no, no, no. 
What controls what the sun and 

1000
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,520
the MO do is God. 
He could do that, you know, just

1001
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,400
so you guys know. 
Yeah, obviously the whole entire

1002
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,680
thing is to strip the fact that 
God is holding it by his 

1003
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,280
authority and power, right? 
They want to attribute anything 

1004
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,560
but that. 
And a lot of the times, Josh, in

1005
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,720
my experience, man, it's it's 
fancy terminology and it's 

1006
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:06,920
localized cadence or, or slangs 
within these institutions and 

1007
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,480
within these higher levels of 
thought where they try to 

1008
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,240
contain and use language as a 
weapon against us instead of 

1009
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:15,680
just, you know, getting. 
Because the Bible really wants 

1010
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,240
to get to the crux of the issue.
And it wants to, you know, let 

1011
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:22,040
you know all things are put into
his position, his power. 

1012
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,000
They're all created by Him, for 
Him, and through him, all things

1013
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,680
on heaven. 
And all principalities, 

1014
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,520
dominions. 
Everything right? 

1015
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,520
Dude, it's. 
And he uses it too. 

1016
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,600
And this is like, mind blown, 
right? 

1017
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:41,000
But you know, for the sake of 
this conversation, the enemy is 

1018
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,000
is inserting the long effort. 
Enoch has a video called the 

1019
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,960
fallen long game. 
I put up on the podcast video 

1020
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,920
audio too, because Enoch does a 
lot of video stuff strictly, but

1021
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,240
and it and it's about the enemy 
isn't always trying to just get 

1022
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,440
like a single generation. 
He's trying to seed things that 

1023
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,960
can grow for the wicked and 
perverseness of who he is in the

1024
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,840
seed that's after him over a 
very long time to inculcate in 

1025
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,000
such a way where it's just it's 
it's being infused into our 

1026
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,040
minds like the first thing they 
teach us when we get to 

1027
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,760
kindergarten. 
Is this globe theory? 

1028
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,720
No. 
OK, listen. 

1029
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,160
I love what Doctor Chuck Missler
did. 

1030
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,160
He was like my biggest like 
person that that. 

1031
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,040
I mean, it was my dream 
interview also in the heavens. 

1032
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,520
Someday I'll be able to have a 
conversation with him, but I'll 

1033
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,800
be more interested in talking 
with the Lord than I will him 

1034
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,720
there. 
But listen, Josh, he used to 

1035
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:37,440
present all the different 
perspectives. 

1036
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,240
You know, he wouldn't leave one 
out. 

1037
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:41,160
He'd say, listen, I'm going to 
lay all this out for you. 

1038
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,440
This is what I think about it. 
This is what the word says about

1039
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,400
it. 
And this is what I prescribed 

1040
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,400
to, and here's why. 
But he wouldn't leave anything 

1041
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,000
out. 
He was getting mad to think, oh,

1042
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,480
bro, bro, it has literally he 
probably is one of the guys that

1043
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,560
most people that have have 
influenced me and you and others

1044
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,240
like us have stood on his 
shoulders at one point in time. 

1045
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,080
And you know, he was well 
accredited. 

1046
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,440
Whatever. 
I'm you know, the show isn't 

1047
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,200
about doctor Chuck Missler, but 
you got to give honor where 

1048
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,320
honors do. 
And in this case, he used to lay

1049
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,600
out all these different 
positions. 

1050
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,320
So I remember going through and 
hearing him speak and then 

1051
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,800
parroting that information with 
like what you're saying, what 

1052
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,640
with Dave says, what Enoch says 
and other people in these areas,

1053
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,440
because there's some contention 
right now. 

1054
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,320
I get I get caught in the 
crosshairs all the time, Josh, 

1055
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,120
where it's like I'm collabing 
with this person and this person

1056
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,240
and working behind the scenes 
and doing this and and people 

1057
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,920
hold different views and people 
want me to make a decision to 

1058
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,920
pick a side and I'm going no, 
that's not how it works. 

1059
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,680
I know, like my allegiance, my 
my shouldership is to the Lord. 

1060
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,720
I know, I know exactly it's not 
to. 

1061
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,080
People will tell me we're gonna 
say you have that guy on, he's 

1062
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,040
this or why did you do? 
And it's like, bro, whatever God

1063
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,120
led me to do at that moment, he 
led me to do that. 

1064
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,800
I'm not yes, and about that bro,
you know what I mean? 

1065
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,280
So yeah, I I get it, but. 
You're being genuine if you're 

1066
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,400
laying out these different, you 
know, ideas and saying, listen, 

1067
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,560
you choose, but the word of God 
has the ultimate authority, 

1068
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,280
right, 'cause we still need to 
pray about it. 

1069
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,040
And so that's important to me 
now. 

1070
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,120
Fascinating you're bringing up 
the one time and then and then 

1071
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,040
God showing the greater miracle 
by like reversing almost, you 

1072
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,720
know, and the shadow being cast 
back as the the sun is, is a 

1073
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:17,000
dial of time. 
It's in orbit, it's in rotation.

1074
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,000
So that's a fascinating point. 
Now, Josh, help me remember, 

1075
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,240
I've seen a map somewhere where 
it has four gates in the east, 

1076
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,840
north-south and West. 
It's like a Hebrew idea of the 

1077
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,600
gates. 
And so when I looked at that 

1078
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,200
word in the Hebrew and the 
coordinates here like stayed and

1079
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,560
I was looking at the moon 
Joshua, where you were, you were

1080
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:43,080
talking about it literally means
to cease, to abide, to not move 

1081
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,720
through. 
And it triggered me. 

1082
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:49,520
I'm like gates, look what? 
So what map is that? 

1083
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,920
It's like a Hebrew map. 
It's like a stationary map where

1084
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,720
there's angels on four corners 
and yeah, a deep cavern of what,

1085
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:57,520
The Earth? 
The windows of heaven that gets 

1086
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,480
talked about like they. 
Took away the waters. 

1087
00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:00,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So yeah. 

1088
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:01,560
Oh yeah. 
Well. 

1089
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,160
That just triggered. 
Sorry, I don't know if that 

1090
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,320
fits. 
OK, it does fit in because I 

1091
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,800
mean, if you get to the windows 
of heaven or the gates of 

1092
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,520
heaven. 
So what is those are sluices. 

1093
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,640
So we'll go over the flood real 
quick before we So I was, I was 

1094
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,840
going to say OK first before I 
do that. 

1095
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,040
So the moon is a light. 
There's several verses on that 

1096
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,440
just so everybody knows and 
we'll kind of move forward. 

1097
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:24,360
If you go to Ezekiel 32, seven 
psalms 1 or 36, or you go 

1098
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,840
through Genesis 1 verses 14 
through 19 and it's going to say

1099
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,880
there's two great lights. 
So the moon is a light, the sun 

1100
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,200
is a light. 
Just so people know as far as 

1101
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,480
the the gates, right? 
Let's talk about the flood real 

1102
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,880
quick. 
So we have 3 separate events 

1103
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,520
that happened there. 
OK, First off, what happened was

1104
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,840
that it says that the the 
fountains of the great deep are 

1105
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,200
broken. 
So water came from below. 

1106
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,160
So let's say you have an arc, 
water is coming from below, it's

1107
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,880
going to lift that arc. 
And then you have a firmament, 

1108
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,080
right? 
It's like a fishbowl almost. 

1109
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,400
And you have it says that the 
windows of heaven were open. 

1110
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,120
The windows of heaven, those are
called sluices. 

1111
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,440
And those are windows of the 
firmament were open and water 

1112
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,960
came in and kept lifting up that
water up. 

1113
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,080
And then it says that it rained 
for 40 days and 40 nights. 

1114
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,640
That's three separate events. 
How do I know that? 

1115
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,920
Because if you go further down, 
it says that the fountains of 

1116
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,480
the great deep were closed. 
It says the windows of heaven 

1117
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,080
were stopped. 
But if you look at that word in 

1118
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,760
the Hebrew, it means closed. 
So the sluice of heaven were 

1119
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,520
closed and it said it stopped 
raining, right? 

1120
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,200
So there's three separate events
there. 

1121
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,600
And it's really makes sense that
water came from below to lift up

1122
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,680
the ark to keep the ark safe. 
And then water came from above 

1123
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,640
to lift the water up. 
It was 15 cubits above the 

1124
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,120
highest mountain, right? 
So all the earth was flooded, 

1125
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,840
okay. 
Not a portion of the earth like 

1126
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,720
some people claim. 
It says all the earth all the 

1127
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,560
way up to the 15 cubits above 
the highest mountain. 

1128
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,800
What does it look like on the 
flatter? 

1129
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:49,800
It's like this. 
It's a glow. 

1130
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,120
I'm sorry. 
It's a, it's a Dome, right? 

1131
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,320
And you have water filling up 
this fishbowl and what happens 

1132
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,840
is it's it's 15 cubits above the
highest mountain, whatever the 

1133
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,000
highest elevation is. 
Now we have Antarctica, which is

1134
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,480
on the outside on, on a biblical
cosmology, I'm sorry, like a 

1135
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,720
Flat Earth model. 
Let's say the water just has to 

1136
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,320
fill up above that. 
That's like 14,000 feet 

1137
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,080
elevation. 
And then whatever the highest 

1138
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,840
mountain is, the water ends up 
being 15 cubits above the 

1139
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,320
highest mountain. 
How does that work on a 

1140
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,240
heliocentric globe model? 
Bro, that's very difficult to 

1141
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:25,040
happen. 
But on this what I'm. 

1142
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,400
Seeing Josh and you're 
triggering this for for me for 

1143
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,480
the first time, the idea of a 
plane fishbowl filling up with 

1144
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,280
water. 
We have heavens, the Prince of 

1145
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,760
the power of the air. 
It's interesting that he says in

1146
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,200
Job he's going up and down upon 
the earth and to and fro upon 

1147
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,320
it, right? 
Yep. 

1148
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,000
What a pervert. 
Can you see this? 

1149
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,840
Yes I can. 
Thank you for sharing. 

1150
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,480
That no problem. 
This is actually Doctor Michael 

1151
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,320
Heisner's. 
Like little thing, but ancient. 

1152
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,880
Of the universe, yes no, I know 
this is exactly what was in my 

1153
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,920
mind as well. 
Now think about this. 

1154
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:03,400
If you looked at that from this 
side profile looking at the 

1155
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,360
foundations of the heavens right
we see the foundations of the 

1156
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:11,360
earth Sheol in the middle 
plateau and then arcing convex. 

1157
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,760
I think it is or is a concave, I
forget which one, but and and so

1158
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,240
you're talking about the water 
filling up here into the into 

1159
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,400
what? 
About the highest mountain. 

1160
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,960
That that would be a sphere 
almost from the Devil's 

1161
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,440
perspective. 
Wouldn't that be interesting 

1162
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:31,280
that he loses one of the the 
Hassitons because there's many 

1163
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,240
of them, loses his ability to go
to and fro because in Job he 

1164
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,280
actually comes with the sons of 
God. 

1165
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,120
You know what I'm saying? 
So maybe he gets a divine taxi, 

1166
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,760
as Mike Kaiser says, and catches
a ride, right? 

1167
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,280
But but here's the interesting 
thing. 

1168
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,960
Maybe the Devil's using that 
perversion because of his desire

1169
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,600
for his abilities, the hospitons
abilities, to go from those 

1170
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,240
heavenly realms to kind of mock 
and even betray the minds of man

1171
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:03,600
in such a deep seated multilayer
deception as to a globe model 

1172
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,040
versus what's actual biblical 
cosmology. 

1173
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,000
That just triggered for me, 
dude, I did not know you're 

1174
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,040
saying it. 
And I'm I'm, I'm just in my 

1175
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,160
imagination. 
I'm, I always invite the Ruach, 

1176
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,000
the Holy Spirit. 
I say come and minister to me. 

1177
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,360
Show me you speak through vision
and dream show if you want me to

1178
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:20,600
show me. 
It's not all the time. 

1179
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,000
It's actually not very often. 
I'm not normally in a position 

1180
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,600
to be worthy of that. 
But today you have triggered 

1181
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,960
this for me, my friend, And and 
it it made sense to me. 

1182
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,440
I'm hoping the audience catches 
this. 

1183
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,200
It's important. 
So let's. 

1184
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,120
Let's deceive her. 
Oh, Deceiver for sure. 

1185
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,320
So let's check out what we'll 
talk. 

1186
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,160
We talked about the, you know, 
the the sun and moon moving. 

1187
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,760
We talked about the earth being 
stationary. 

1188
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,720
Now we'll talk about the 
firmament, right. 

1189
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,000
So I kind of went over for a 
firmament means it's rakia, it's

1190
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,280
solid. 
Even when you go to the Greek 

1191
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,800
Septuagint in Greek, it's 
stereoma, which also means 

1192
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,680
solid. 
So even when that was, you know,

1193
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,480
when I was taking over, now 
what's happening is like you 

1194
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,280
were talking about translations 
of the Bible. 

1195
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:06,680
They're moving from firmament 
to, from solid to expand so that

1196
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,200
it's easier for people to 
compromise for science and say, 

1197
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,040
well, it's an expanse. 
It's, it's the universe. 

1198
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,040
It's where the sun and the moon 
and the stars are. 

1199
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,280
So they're trying to move that 
into space now. 

1200
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,800
And that's what happens as you 
go through time, you see that 

1201
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,360
they try to convert to, you 
know, they, they compromise for 

1202
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,320
science to try to match up what 
science says. 

1203
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,520
And that's just not the case 
here. 

1204
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,560
You know, when you go back, when
you have a telephone game, you 

1205
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,920
want to find out what the person
said in the beginning. 

1206
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,080
You want to find out what they 
were saying, not what we say. 

1207
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,120
You know, 6600 years later, the 
truth is going to be from the 

1208
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,840
prophets and from God, not from 
these people 6600 years later. 

1209
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,560
So we need to understand that 
there is a theory that people 

1210
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,360
come up with. 
It was Ken Hoeven's theory that 

1211
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,000
there was a ice canopy around 
the globe. 

1212
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,280
And, and that when the flood 
happened, it broke and shattered

1213
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,040
and melted. 
And that's what caused the, the 

1214
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,240
that's what was causing people 
to live longer. 

1215
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,200
They said that they're blocking 
the sun rays. 

1216
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,880
And now we got to understand, 
though, in the Bible, it says, 

1217
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,040
it says that God put the moon, 
sun, and the stars in the 

1218
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,040
firmament. 
So that ice canopy would have to

1219
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,720
be outside of all the galaxies. 
So that would not work. 

1220
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,360
You would have to have two 
firmaments. 

1221
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,720
But in the Bible it says that 
God created the firmament. 

1222
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,080
The firmament, not firmaments. 
So now you are doing what, going

1223
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,800
back to Proverbs, you're adding 
to the word of God to compromise

1224
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,600
for what? 
For what you learned in science 

1225
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,600
class from a bunch of atheists 
that I want naturalistic 

1226
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,360
worldview without God, absent 
from God. 

1227
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,720
You know what I mean? 
So just want to tell people that

1228
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,480
and then on Wernher von Braun's 
tombstone, this is the guy that 

1229
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,760
was a he's a Nazi rocket 
scientist that came over from 

1230
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,960
operation paper clip. 
He was like the director of NASA

1231
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,040
back in the days when they when 
they first started wanting to do

1232
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,440
the moon landing, sending out 
Saturn 5 satellites, Saturn's of

1233
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,200
God off of his well, but on this
gentleman's tombstone, we have 

1234
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,840
Psalms 19 one. 
It says the heavens declare the 

1235
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,360
glory of God and the firmament 
showeth his handiwork. 

1236
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,160
OK, that's a very interesting 
verse for him to put. 

1237
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,680
Now I believe this is like a 
breadcrumb because what what you

1238
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,640
do, you don't just go to Psalms 
19 one and stop there. 

1239
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,960
You want to continue reading. 
And what happens if you continue

1240
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,680
reading? 
It's going to show you that that

1241
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:36,280
the sun is actually, you know, 
moving over the earth, you know,

1242
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,400
so I think it's interesting. 
So Psalms 19, one says the 

1243
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,880
heavens declare the glory of God
and the firmament show with this

1244
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,560
handiwork. 
If you click on that word 

1245
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,040
handiwork, it actually you 
could, it will say work God's 

1246
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,360
deeds or God's achievement. 
So I want to stop there. 

1247
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,240
What is the devil doing? 
He's taking away God's handiwork

1248
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,400
because he's taking away that 
firmament and only just making 

1249
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,840
it the heavens. 
And he's saying that the there's

1250
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,120
three heavens. 
They're saying that the blue sky

1251
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,960
is a heaven where the moon 
center, the stars are located as

1252
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,240
heaven, and then God's heaven is
trillions upon trillions of 

1253
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,800
miles away. 
So that's very interesting that 

1254
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,560
it happens. 
And as I continue reading the 

1255
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,000
verse, it says day unto day 
utter his speech and the night 

1256
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,680
under knoweth knowledge. 
There is no speech nor language 

1257
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,040
which their voice is not heard. 
Their line is gone out through 

1258
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,160
all the earth and their words to
the end of the world. 

1259
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:31,120
And then he has set a Tabernacle
for the sun. 

1260
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,040
What is a Tabernacle? 
If you click on Tabernacle, that

1261
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,120
actually means the sacred tent 
of Jehovah. 

1262
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,520
So we have a tent for the sun, 
right? 

1263
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,400
And what is that? 
Well, I believe that he's 

1264
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,920
talking about the firmament 
here, the firmament for the sun,

1265
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,040
it says. 
And, and also if you look up 

1266
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,960
Andrew Hoy, he's actually a, 
he's an engineer and he took 

1267
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,400
every single thing from the 
Torah and built the Tabernacle. 

1268
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,880
And it is not shaped like a 
normal tent. 

1269
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,120
When you build a normal tent you
have to take minus stuff out, 

1270
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,800
but God said to use every single
thing that got to build the 

1271
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,720
Tabernacle and it actually it 
would be more of a Dome shape. 

1272
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,600
Okay look up Andrew Hoy, you 
guys could see exactly what I'm 

1273
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:19,120
talking about on that. 
So hold on, let me click this 

1274
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,800
out. 
Sorry I'm getting messages while

1275
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,960
I'm talking. 
It says what? 

1276
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,320
Now let me continue reading. 
It says a Tabernacle for the 

1277
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,080
sun, which is as a bridegroom 
coming out of his chamber and 

1278
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,200
rejoices as a strong man to run 
a race. 

1279
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,080
His going forth is from the end 
of heaven and his circuit which 

1280
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,480
is a circle unto the ends of it,
and there is nothing hid from 

1281
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,880
the heat thereof, so it's going 
to the ends of heaven. 

1282
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,280
Now there's three heavens. 
One heaven is where the moon, 

1283
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,440
sun and the stars are located. 
2nd heaven is that firmament. 

1284
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,240
3rd Heaven is where God's throne
is located. 

1285
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,480
So the sun is doing a circuit in
the heaven to the ends of 

1286
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,640
heaven, and nothing is hid from 
the heat thereof. 

1287
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,720
What does that mean? 
That nothing is hid from the 

1288
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,840
heat thereof? 
No galaxies, no other 

1289
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,680
Andromedas, no other things are 
hid from the heat of the sun. 

1290
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:07,400
What do you think bro? 
Yeah. 

1291
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,760
Man, I love the word of God. 
That's what I think I like, you 

1292
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,400
know, I'm thankful for you. 
I know it was like, what, 5:00 

1293
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,880
AM on your side when we started 
this thing, man, We just came in

1294
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,240
here swinging, giving God some 
glory. 

1295
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,240
I, I love everything that you're
laying out. 

1296
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,800
I think that this should ripple 
out into people's minds. 

1297
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:31,240
You know, no emails from people 
angry about designating an 

1298
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,640
episode towards biblical 
cosmology. 

1299
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,320
If you guys have issues with 
that, it's going to be you have 

1300
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,360
issues with what the word is 
saying. 

1301
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,120
So I just want to reiterate that
the Bible has the final 

1302
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,440
authority. 
And Josh, your heart posture to 

1303
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:48,400
just get this stuff out there is
very honorable, OK? 

1304
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,400
Because the enemy is screaming 
from the top of his lungs. 

1305
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,600
He's got all the best producers.
He's got all the best news 

1306
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,120
stations, right? 
He's got this the the powers of 

1307
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,840
the world echoing his lie 
chamber and here we are as sons 

1308
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,840
of God. 
We got to know that we're sons 

1309
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,280
of God. 
We got to know who we are and 

1310
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,760
then we start to bring his word 
out and it never returns void. 

1311
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:15,400
So I think, Josh, that this is a
really excellent conversation. 

1312
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,240
It's, it's, it's a great way to 
seed ideas of the scriptures out

1313
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,720
there to get to challenge the 
narrative that is that's. 

1314
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,840
My yes, yeah. 
And OK, so yes, let's continue 

1315
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,520
challenging the narrative. 
I think that's good. 

1316
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,160
And, and also like, like you 
were talking about he is the the

1317
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,440
Prince of the air and and you're
talking about the news stations.

1318
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,240
The you know that's exactly what
he's using the enemies using at 

1319
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,400
all times just to brainwash and 
and and continue these agendas. 

1320
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,160
But let's continue with the 
firmament. 

1321
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,440
So we have Job 3718 has that 
with him spread out the sky, 

1322
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,560
which is strong as a molten 
looking glass so strong if you 

1323
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,080
click on that word, it means 
solid. 

1324
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,840
So Job is saying here that the 
sky is solid and for those that 

1325
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,800
try to come and challenge me and
try to tell me that the 

1326
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,120
cosmology is not important to 
God. 

1327
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:07,400
If you go to Job 38 for and, and
when he's trying to put Job in 

1328
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:12,080
line, he, he immediately goes 
back to his cosmology and says 

1329
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,840
that where were you when I laid 
the foundations of the earth? 

1330
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,160
Where were you when I bind 
pallades? 

1331
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,400
Where were you when I did he? 
He goes to cosmology 

1332
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,680
immediately. 
Oh, cosmology is not important. 

1333
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,040
Flat versus globe is not 
important. 

1334
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,880
But well, God opens up the Bible
with cosmology before he even 

1335
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,160
talks about Jesus right in 
Genesis 317. 

1336
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,320
So I'm just telling you 
something that God, what we need

1337
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,160
to do is the heavens declare the
glory of God. 

1338
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,080
We need to look up to the 
heavens and say, thank you, 

1339
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,160
Lord, this is amazing. 
And the firmament show with this

1340
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,400
handiwork. 
We need to understand that 

1341
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,720
that's God's handiwork. 
It took him a whole day to 

1342
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,360
create this firmament, right? 
So understand that. 

1343
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,760
One more thing I like to talk 
about, well, a few different 

1344
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,480
things I like to talk about 
about the firmament is that the 

1345
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,360
reason why you turn into well, 
not the reason why, OK, we are 

1346
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,720
spirit, right? 
We're able to go into the earth,

1347
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,320
you know, when we die because 
we're spirit, like you talked 

1348
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,840
about Jesus walking through the 
walls, our heavenly body, and 

1349
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,240
we're able to go up through the 
firmament into the 3rd heaven. 

1350
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,680
But physically you will not be 
able to get into heaven. 

1351
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,440
OK. 
They try to do it with the Tower

1352
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,400
of Babel. 
They try to do it with something

1353
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,440
called Operation Fishbowl, and 
I'll tell you about that. 

1354
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,600
What they did is they tried to 
is 1962, they shot nuclear 

1355
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:29,040
missiles, Thor missiles up and 
it exploded in the sky and you 

1356
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,080
could see it from atmosphere to 
atmosphere, right? 

1357
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,640
So if you look at this, this is 
in 1962. 

1358
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,840
Back then in 1958, we had 
Operation Deep Freeze where 

1359
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,120
Admiral Byrd went out to 
Antarctica and it's called 

1360
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,280
Operation High Jump. 
That's another name for this 

1361
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,360
Operation High Jump where they 
went to Antarctica and they were

1362
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,800
basically just checking 
everything out. 

1363
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,520
I think they were, I believe 
they were looking for Nazi, you 

1364
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,360
know, stuff out there. 
But anyways, so that happened in

1365
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,480
1958. 
So then, then after 1958, they 

1366
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,440
made the Antarctic Treaty. 
So they made it so that what I 

1367
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,120
believe is they found, I believe
they found the firmament, dude, 

1368
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,480
that's what I believe. 
And they're, they're trying to 

1369
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,200
hide that information. 
Now you go from 1958 to 1962, 

1370
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,760
they do Operation Dominique 
where they're shooting missiles 

1371
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,840
up in the air and it's 
exploding. 

1372
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,840
I believe they're trying to find
out how how high the firmament 

1373
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,479
is. 
Why? 

1374
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,560
Well, because if you want to 
shoot a nuke, if you believe in 

1375
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,760
those, some people don't. 
If you want to shoot a nuke or a

1376
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,399
rocket from America to Russia, 
you need to see how high the 

1377
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,160
firmament is. 
Because if you shoot it straight

1378
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,319
up in the air, it's going to 
explode and you're going to 

1379
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:36,479
waste the rocket. 
So you need to know from a 

1380
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,840
military perspective from 
America over to Russia, you need

1381
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,399
to see how you need to arc that 
missile. 

1382
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,040
So you need to know, right, also
when you're NASA and you want to

1383
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,200
try to fake out these rockets 
that they're sending into space,

1384
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,000
supposedly you need to have 
these things arc as well. 

1385
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,640
You never see these things go 
straight up. 

1386
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,520
When you do see them go straight
up, what happens? 

1387
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,399
They explode. 
SpaceX, it happened there. 

1388
01:08:58,399 --> 01:08:59,960
But they end up arcing these 
things. 

1389
01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:03,040
So they want to find out how 
high the firmament is so that 

1390
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,160
they can, you know, keep doing 
what they're doing, you know, 

1391
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:09,080
and also, you know, so from a 
military perspective, they 

1392
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,840
wanted to know how high it was. 
So they when they do send 

1393
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,040
rockets, they don't just waste 
money, you know? 

1394
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,560
Thoughts on that? 
Operation Fishbowl? 

1395
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,960
Oh, before you talk, fishbowl is
what I talked about fishbowl, 

1396
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,720
right? 
It's Operation Dominique is the 

1397
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,640
bigger mission. 
It's Dominique Chama. 

1398
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,000
And if you look at that in the 
Latin, Dominique means belonging

1399
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,800
to the Lord and Chama means it 
means shell. 

1400
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,640
So you have a fixed shell 
belonging to the Lord or a 

1401
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,399
fishbowl, a fishbowl, you have 
glass with a hole in the top, 

1402
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,399
right? 
So they're taking Thor missiles 

1403
01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:46,720
and trying to explode the fixed 
shell that's belonging belonging

1404
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,359
to the Lord. 
This can't get any. 

1405
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:52,160
Can't get any clearer than that 
bro. 

1406
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,640
Yeah, Yeah. 
That's really well laid out, 

1407
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:56,760
man. 
That's interesting to think 

1408
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,760
about. 
Yep. 

1409
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,560
No, carry on. 
This is good. 

1410
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:01,680
Yeah. 
I'll keep going. 

1411
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,160
We're keep going. 
He talked, you talked about 

1412
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:08,160
Isaiah, the five I wills, right?
So Isaiah 1413 through 15. 

1413
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,000
This is telling you where God is
located, where his throne is, 

1414
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,560
and I'm going to continue going 
with that. 

1415
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,440
What is God's location? 
We need to know that in the 

1416
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:22,440
heliocentric model, God's 
location would be trillions upon

1417
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:26,040
trillions of miles away, and 
he'd also be ever expanding, 

1418
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,600
right? 
So it's a 1.3 million miles an 

1419
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,800
hour. 
So God, he put the moon, sun, 

1420
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,760
and the stars in the firmament. 
I'm going to go through verses 

1421
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,880
that prove to you that God's 
thrown as above the firmament. 

1422
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,240
So if the firmament is outside 
all the galaxies and it's ever 

1423
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,920
expanding, what science is doing
is bringing you further and 

1424
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,760
further and further away from 
the Lord. 

1425
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,000
What's they're literally doing? 
But when it comes to the Bible, 

1426
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,120
God's throat is above the 
firmament and he's looking down 

1427
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,280
on us like grasshoppers, which 
I'm going to show you guys. 

1428
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:59,040
But in this verse, Isaiah 1413 
through 15, it tells you where 

1429
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,120
God's throne is located. 
It says I will ascend into 

1430
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,440
heaven. 
It says, for you have said in 

1431
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:06,080
your heart, I will ascend into 
heaven. 

1432
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,680
I will exalt my throne above the
stars of God. 

1433
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,680
I will also sit on the mount of 
Congregation on the farthest 

1434
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,080
sides of the north. 
I will ascend above the heights 

1435
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,200
of the clouds. 
I will be like the Most High, 

1436
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,960
yet you shall be brought down to
shield to the lowest depths of 

1437
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,720
the pit. 
Now we have that three tiered 

1438
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,640
system again. 
Now what does he say? 

1439
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,120
I will exalt my throne above the
stars of God. 

1440
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,160
So God's throne is above the 
stars, right? 

1441
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,080
It's above the firmament. 
And it says that I will sit on 

1442
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,120
the farthest sides of the north 
if you have a firmament and the 

1443
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,360
north, the North Pole is where 
the the farthest size of the 

1444
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,080
north would be. 
God's throne, I think is above 

1445
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,200
that, right? 
And I think it's obviously a lot

1446
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,520
larger than we probably think, 
but that's where God will be 

1447
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:48,720
located, right? 
So we have that. 

1448
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:53,960
And then Amos 96, it says this 
is the NASB version. 

1449
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,200
It says the one who builds his 
upper chambers in the heavens 

1450
01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:00,160
has founded his vaulted Dome 
over the earth. 

1451
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,160
He who calls for the waters of 
the sea and pours them out of 

1452
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,760
the face of the earth, the Lord 
is his name. 

1453
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,120
That word upper chambers, it 
actually means layers in the 

1454
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,360
Hebrew. 
So there's layers like we talked

1455
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,600
about 3 heavens. 
God built his upper chambers in 

1456
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,240
the heavens and in the NASB it 
says he founded his vaulted Dome

1457
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,360
over the earth. 
Now if you go to the King James,

1458
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,840
it says troops, he found his 
vaulted troops. 

1459
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,320
What that word means it means 
binding and it means binding 

1460
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,720
heaven to the earth. 
So the vaulted Dome is binding 

1461
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,240
heaven, the 3rd heaven to the 
earth. 

1462
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,200
OK, so we got to understand that
that word is very interesting. 

1463
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,000
When you start going into the he
or to the to the Hebrew text, 

1464
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,960
you know it's binding heaven to 
the earth. 

1465
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,280
So literally this verse could 
say the vaulted Dome that's 

1466
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,080
binding to the earth, the 
firmament binding to the earth, 

1467
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,840
right? 
And then God has his upper 

1468
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,640
chambers or layers in the 
heavens that he builds. 

1469
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,600
All right, so we have that. 
And then another thing I think 

1470
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,520
is very interesting is going to 
be Isaiah 4022. 

1471
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,520
Now this is a verse that 
everybody tries to come at 

1472
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,120
people like me and say, look, 
it's talking about a sphere 

1473
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,280
right here. 
But let's break this verse down.

1474
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,600
Let me get back to it before I 
keep keep going. 

1475
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,200
I always like to ask, do you 
have any questions on what I 

1476
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,760
went over so far? 
No, pretty solid man. 

1477
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,480
I'm, I'm, like I said, I'm 
following along and just looking

1478
01:13:25,480 --> 01:13:27,680
at the layout and the rhythm of 
things is. 

1479
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,040
Just trying to build the case 
here for for people to 

1480
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,240
understand that. 
My friend, Yes, you you are 

1481
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,160
building a case. 
I don't want to jump in. 

1482
01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:40,560
My connections are good. 
And for a latter date, because 

1483
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,520
I'll take us down rabbit trails.
We'll we'll be here all morning.

1484
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,920
Yeah, it'll be good. 
People want that. 

1485
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,880
But Lord, for the sake of our 
days, I mean, you don't want me 

1486
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,520
talking too much. 
All right, all right, so let's 

1487
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:56,920
go to this. 
This is Isaiah 4021 through 22. 

1488
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,480
This is what it says. 
It says. 

1489
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:00,720
Have you not known? 
Have you not heard? 

1490
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,840
Has it not been told to you from
the beginning? 

1491
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,480
Have you not understood? 
From the foundations of the 

1492
01:14:05,480 --> 01:14:08,280
earth. 
It is He who sits above the 

1493
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,840
circle of the earth, and it's 
inhabitants are like 

1494
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,240
grasshoppers who stresses out 
the heavens like a curtain and 

1495
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,720
spreads them out like a tent to 
dwell in, or like a Tabernacle 

1496
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,680
to dwell in that tent. 
Word is there again. 

1497
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,040
But what do we have? 
We have God, the Most High. 

1498
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,120
He's called the Most High for a 
reason, because he's at the 

1499
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,840
highest point of creation. 
He sits above the circle of the 

1500
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,320
earth. 
It doesn't say that God sits 

1501
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,400
above the circle of the galaxies
or the atmospheres or the 

1502
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,240
cosmos. 
He sits above the circle of the 

1503
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,880
earth is what that verse is 
saying. 

1504
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,680
And circle, I mean that word is,
it means circle. 

1505
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,040
Even if you go to the Greek 
Septuagint, they use the word 

1506
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:50,320
circle in in Greek instead of 
using sphero, which they could 

1507
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,760
have used sphere. 
So it's not talking about God 

1508
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,240
standing on the on the the 
sphere. 

1509
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,240
He's talking about him standing 
above the circle of the earth, 

1510
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,800
all right. 
So I think that's very 

1511
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,160
important. 
And he's standing above the 

1512
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,000
firmament, right? 
That's where his throne is 

1513
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,520
located. 
And he stretches out the heaven 

1514
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,680
like a curtain, the heaven like 
a curtain and spreads them out 

1515
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,440
like a tent to dwell in. 
Now there's more of that tent 

1516
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:16,000
talk. 
And he's also looking down on us

1517
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,720
like grasshoppers, right through
the firmament and seen as like 

1518
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,560
grasshoppers. 
So I think that's very 

1519
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,480
important. 
And just like you said earlier, 

1520
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:29,760
Isaiah 66, one also says heaven 
is my throne and earth is my 

1521
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,560
footstool. 
How is that happening? 

1522
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,480
Well, if you have a firmament, 
right, a firmament like this 

1523
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:37,680
water above the firmament and 
God's thrown above that, which 

1524
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,920
if you look in Revelations 4/6, 
it says that there's a 

1525
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,240
crystalline glass below that is 
water than this firmament. 

1526
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,000
God is actually literally 
standing above the circle of the

1527
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,160
earth. 
That's why it says that 

1528
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,440
heaven's. 
Firmament is his belt of truth, 

1529
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,400
if you want to kind of look at 
it that way. 

1530
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,800
Yeah, it's like. 
Like a belt almost, you know? 

1531
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,280
It says where he builds his 
house that he will build me 

1532
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,040
where he placed my place of 
rest. 

1533
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,160
His place of rest is above the 
firmament, bro. 

1534
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:03,600
And it's very interesting and 
and there's a lot of that talk 

1535
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,320
throughout the Bible. 
Now, if you want to try to tell 

1536
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,680
me that that that word circle 
means a sphere, all you got to 

1537
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:14,520
do is go to the same author, 
Isaiah 2218, and he says the 

1538
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,080
word ball. 
He says he will surely violently

1539
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,960
turn and toss the like a ball. 
That word ball could be used for

1540
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,560
sphere. 
But you know, he doesn't use 

1541
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,200
that. 
He chooses to use the word 

1542
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,440
circle for a reason because he's
looking over the circle of the 

1543
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:30,240
earth. 
He's looking down, he sees a 

1544
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,400
circle, right? 
That's what he's seeing there. 

1545
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,280
So I think that's very 
interesting. 

1546
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,440
And then God's throne being 
above the firmament is spoke 

1547
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:43,120
about in Ezekiel 10/1 and 
Ezekiel 126 it says then I 

1548
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,560
looked and behold, and the 
firmament was above the head of 

1549
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,440
the cheruboons. 
There appeared over them as were

1550
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:51,040
a sapphire stone, as the 
appearance and the likeness of a

1551
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,280
throne. 
This is talking about Ezekiel 

1552
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,000
looking through the firmament 
and seeing the likeness of a 

1553
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,760
throne. 
And in Ezekiel 126, it says the 

1554
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,240
likeness of a throne and a man, 
the likeness of a man upon it, 

1555
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,240
right? 
So it's very interesting. 

1556
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,920
We got to understand this is 
Ezekiel 126. 

1557
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,920
Now who is giving Ezekiel and 
Isaiah and these and Job and all

1558
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,000
these people, this information. 
This information is coming from 

1559
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,160
God. 
And this vision about Ezekiel is

1560
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:22,120
coming from God and he's showing
Ezekiel where his throne is 

1561
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,720
located. 
In Ezekiel 126 it says that 

1562
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,040
above the firmament that was 
over their heads was the 

1563
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,720
likeness of a throne as the 
appearance of a sapphire stone, 

1564
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,400
and upon the likeness of a 
throne was the likeness and the 

1565
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,320
appearance of a man above upon 
it. 

1566
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:39,720
What's your thoughts on that 
brother? 

1567
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:46,920
I think it's exactly as he says,
man, that, you know, the 

1568
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,000
prophecy is a repetition of 
things. 

1569
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,800
And when we're looking through 
the word and we're looking at 

1570
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,880
all these different prophets, 
what they're saying, God speaks 

1571
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:59,160
through the prophets. 
He's reaffirming exactly that 

1572
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,840
which it is even sometimes from 
different angles, so that we get

1573
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,400
a deeper understanding of what's
going on. 

1574
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,000
You know, I think God makes it 
very clear. 

1575
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,720
And I think your case in this 
matter, what you're bringing 

1576
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,120
forward from the word is 
painting that depiction time and

1577
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:18,200
time again literal, but then 
also at times where, where it it

1578
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:22,440
can, it can be prophetic, which 
means, you know, because 

1579
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:25,400
prophecy and poetry in Hebrew 
are one in the same. 

1580
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,640
It means it's circumvented. 
It's it's a repetition of things

1581
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,200
different name, different faces 
sometimes, but the same outcome.

1582
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,040
You know, God is is is stirring 
the information to go travel 

1583
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,360
abroad through another 
generation is being reaffirmed 

1584
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,120
by another prophet. 
The Bible, right. 

1585
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,640
All this word that's inspired by
the living God 4 continents. 

1586
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,800
How many different authors over 
how long a time? 

1587
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:52,760
And it is the only book that is 
super lative and it's complete 

1588
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,160
transparency of, of, of the 
truth, man. 

1589
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,120
So I'm rocking with you. 
I, I like what you're bringing 

1590
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,680
up. 
And I think another time we'll 

1591
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,720
do more speculation on some of 
these things and have a 

1592
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,480
conversation that way and and 
get into some some rabbit 

1593
01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:08,720
trails. 
For sure. 

1594
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,360
So we already talked about 
Operation Dominique. 

1595
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,840
Let's let's check out. 
So how do we know that there's 

1596
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,880
three heavens? 
We go to 2nd Corinthians 12 

1597
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,080
verses 2 through 4. 
I knew a man in Christ above 14 

1598
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,720
years. 
Whether in the body I cannot 

1599
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,320
tell. 
Whether out of the body I cannot

1600
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,200
tell. 
God knoweth. 

1601
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:27,040
Such one caught up to the 3rd 
heaven and I knew such a man, 

1602
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,200
whether in the body or out of 
the body, I cannot tell. 

1603
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,080
God knoweth how that he was 
caught up into paradise and 

1604
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,080
heard unspeakable words, which 
was unlawful for a man to utter.

1605
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,440
So let me just put it this way. 
So he was caught up right. 

1606
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:42,920
So on a biblical cosmology, you 
have a Flat Earth with the 

1607
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,160
firmament. 
You up is up and down is down. 

1608
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:50,440
When Jesus passed, you know when
he, when he died, he, it says 

1609
01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:52,880
that he went into the earth, 
right? 

1610
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,880
He descended into the earth and 
then he ascended to heaven. 

1611
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,200
So he went up. 
It talks about Paul getting 

1612
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,280
caught up to the 3rd heaven. 
Now what I don't see here, I 

1613
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,960
don't see Paul saying that I got
caught up to the 3rd heaven, 

1614
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,480
which is where God's thorn is 
located and I went through 

1615
01:20:07,480 --> 01:20:09,160
galaxies and I had to go through
this. 

1616
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,320
I went through all this stuff. 
He's saying he doesn't even know

1617
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,080
whether he's in the body or at 
the body. 

1618
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,840
He cannot tell because all they 
did is go up through the 

1619
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,360
firmament to the 3rd heaven. 
He didn't go up to. 

1620
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,200
You know, this Galaxy, Andromeda
and all this different stuff. 

1621
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:28,160
He would probably write a whole 
entire book on that experience 

1622
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,160
if he was really going through 
all that. 

1623
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,280
Instead, Paul just says I heard 
unspeakable words, which is not 

1624
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,800
lawful for a man to utter. 
He's not talking about all the 

1625
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,600
other stars and everything 
orbiting and all the stuff that 

1626
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,280
he saw. 
No, he said he went up to the 

1627
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,640
3rd heaven and that's where it 
is located. 

1628
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,240
It's located up and Shield is 
located down, right? 

1629
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,640
So we have that. 
And then Revelation 17 is 

1630
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,320
interesting because it talks 
about every eye shall see. 

1631
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,320
This is Revelation 17. 
Behold, He cometh with clouds, 

1632
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:06,560
and every eye shall see Him, and
they also which pierced Him, and

1633
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,840
all kinders in the earth shall 
be so well because of Him. 

1634
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,760
He is the alpha, Omega, the 
beginning and the end. 

1635
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,600
So we have every eye will see 
Him. 

1636
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,560
Now if you have a Flat Earth 
with a firmament, and then the 

1637
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,520
firmament is rolled like a 
scroll, open like a scroll like 

1638
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,200
the Bible says, and Jesus comes 
in on a cloud and every eye will

1639
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,720
see him, there's no problem with
that. 

1640
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,440
Every eye will literally see 
Him. 

1641
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:32,200
But if you have a globe and 
Jesus is coming in trying to 

1642
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,480
catch that 66,000 mile an hour 
earth and he's on a cloud flying

1643
01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:38,520
through space and he ends up 
trying to catch, he ends up on 

1644
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,080
the earth, only a fourth of the 
people would see him. 

1645
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,720
But when it comes to biblical 
cosmology, it's very easy. 

1646
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:48,400
The the firmament opens like a 
scroll and Jesus comes in on the

1647
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,280
cloud and everyone will be able 
to see him. 

1648
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,120
Every eye we'll see makes total 
sense. 

1649
01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:57,160
Revelation 613 it says. 
And the stars of heaven fell 

1650
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,560
onto the earth as a fig tree 
casts her untimely figs, and she

1651
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,600
is shaken of a mighty wind. 
And the heaven which is talking 

1652
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,840
about the firmament, because God
called the firmament heaven, 

1653
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:11,440
Genesis 18 the heaven departed 
as a scroll when it is rolled 

1654
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:14,200
together, and every mountain and
island were moved out of its 

1655
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,360
place. 
So this is talking about the 

1656
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,440
stars of heaven shall fall to 
the earth. 

1657
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,680
All the stars of heaven will 
fall to the earth. 

1658
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,480
And Isaiah Mark, Jesus on the 
earth says that all the stars 

1659
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,400
are the stars are going to fall 
from heaven. 

1660
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,160
It says in Revelation, the stars
are going to fall from heaven 

1661
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,480
onto the earth. 
What is he talking about here? 

1662
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:35,440
If, if, if this was the every 
star was bigger than our sun and

1663
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:38,760
all the stars fell to the earth.
Does that make any sense at all?

1664
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,920
No, but on a, on a biblical 
cosmology Flat Earth with all 

1665
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,560
the moons and the stars in the 
firmament, with the firmament 

1666
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,960
connecting to the earth, like 
Amos 96 says, now we have all 

1667
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:54,200
the stars falling to the earth. 
No problem with it whatsoever. 

1668
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,920
But in the in the heliocentric 
model, big problems, you know, 

1669
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:03,160
So we have that. 
Yeah, I could go a little 

1670
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,360
further right. 
We already talked about the 

1671
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,840
flood. 
So let's let's talk just for a 

1672
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:09,600
second. 
I got a thought I want to share 

1673
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,880
about what you're saying. 
All the stars falling to the 

1674
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,480
earth now prophetically in my 
mind from what the Spirit just 

1675
01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:17,840
just quickened me. 
And this makes complete sense 

1676
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,240
because every tribe, language, 
nation and tongue, he's going to

1677
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,200
draw unto himself, right? 
And the the prophecy that was 

1678
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,520
given to Abraham, as numerous as
the stars are, will your 

1679
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,040
generations be right that he 
brings fulfillment in the people

1680
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,920
that belong to him. 
And I'm not insinuating that the

1681
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,360
physical stars that are going to
fall to the earth are now, you 

1682
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,760
know, some extra, you know, 
special light force that's going

1683
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,920
to I'm just saying 
prophetically, the idea that God

1684
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,400
is using because the enemy 
perverts it, he he does 

1685
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,440
inversions. 
God is doing multi layered. 

1686
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:54,200
Everything is multi layered. 
You can't get away from it, you 

1687
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,840
know, So he's even I'm seeing a 
prophetic thread here where it's

1688
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,320
like, listen, at the end of the 
age, all of these start because 

1689
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,960
it does say in Revelation that a
percentage of stars fall at the 

1690
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,720
tail of the dragon. 
But the verse you're referring 

1691
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,920
Revelation 19. 
But when all of this stuff, 

1692
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,320
because it even says, as you 
mentioned just a little bit ago,

1693
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,760
Josh, that he will roll the 
heaven like a all, you know, all

1694
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:22,600
things new, all things new in 
his perfect timing in his 

1695
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,320
completion. 
And so it's interesting that 

1696
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,480
there's like a prophetic 
concealment in there. 

1697
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,120
All of these stars are going to 
come down and fall. 

1698
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:34,480
Everything is going to come to 
its completed final order. 

1699
01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:38,920
And then it's it's made new why 
of course, that would be in 

1700
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,760
there prophetically. 
And like you just said, how 

1701
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,400
could we have Alpha Centauri, 
the closest star other than our 

1702
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:50,120
sun, quote UN quote, according 
to the powers that be that these

1703
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,800
principalities, powers of rulers
and dominions have physical 

1704
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,200
bodies that some of them walk 
right in dude, that there's 

1705
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,640
physical human Nephesh Okarion 
vessels, bodies that these 

1706
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,680
entities are in in cahoots with 
man, they're working directly in

1707
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,560
tandem. 
We have world powers on this at 

1708
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:12,560
Rats This Earth listeners that 
are in direct agreement and 

1709
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,360
operation with kingdoms of 
darkness. 

1710
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,280
So so yeah, we wrestled out 
against flesh and blood. 

1711
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,040
Oh, but but, but hold on a 
second. 

1712
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,800
Everything's multi layered just 
like the star idea. 

1713
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,120
When we start to look through 
the thread of what the Bible is 

1714
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,360
showing us, God is going to 
bring all that stuff to 

1715
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,120
completion. 
I have no issues with what 

1716
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,720
you're saying. 
I'm hoping, you know, for the 

1717
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,960
sake of the audience, we'll get 
questions sent in. 

1718
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,920
Maybe we can brush up on if 
people feel like there's loose 

1719
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,040
ends in the future, right? 
Or not loose ends, but like, 

1720
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,360
hey, let's elaborate on this a 
little bit more. 

1721
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,600
I want to see where this fits 
in. 

1722
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,680
But Josh, what you're saying for
me fits in my framework. 

1723
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,120
I'm just like, yeah, that's 
super dope. 

1724
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,880
And like I said, rabbit trails 
off the charts off the. 

1725
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,600
Charts Yeah yeah so if you guys 
have any questions if you want 

1726
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,160
to DM me on on Instagram at Josh
Monday under score podcast. 

1727
01:25:57,480 --> 01:25:59,960
I have no problem answering 
questions or prayer requests or 

1728
01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:02,560
anything. 
So, so we're kind of at the end.

1729
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,480
What I'm going to do is I'm 
going to go over all the sixes 

1730
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:08,200
involved in the heliocentric 
model. 

1731
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,960
I'll go over probably just about
two more verses and we'll end 

1732
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,840
because we're about an hour and 
a half here. 

1733
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:19,880
So, so we have every one mile is
8 inches squared of curvature, 

1734
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,880
right? 
So we have, if you take 8 / 12, 

1735
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,840
it's .66 of a foot. 
The curvature calculator, if you

1736
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,720
look at what that is curvature, 
right? 

1737
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,640
So we need to have some 
curvature to it. 

1738
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,200
That's what it is. 
So if you go 10 miles, it's 66.6

1739
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,800
of a foot, 100 miles, it's 6666 
feet. 

1740
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:42,040
We also have 66,600 miles an 
hour orbiting the sun or 

1741
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:45,000
actually it's this way. 
So we got 666 there. 

1742
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:51,280
The Earth's circumference is 600
* 6 * 6 nautical miles 90°. 

1743
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,200
If you subtract that from 23.4, 
which is our supposed access, it

1744
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:59,120
is 66.6°. 
Isaac Newton started first 

1745
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,120
writing the theory of gravity in
1666. 

1746
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,600
The force of gravity on earth is
666 Newtons. 

1747
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:10,880
Speed of sound is 666 knots. 
The diameter of the moon is 6 * 

1748
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,960
6 * 60. 
The distance to the moon is 6 * 

1749
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,720
60 * 666 miles. 
The Arctic and Antarctic 

1750
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:24,320
celestial fear is 66.6° N 
latitude and 66.6° S latitude, 

1751
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:29,640
and then the surface temperature
on Uranus is -6 * 6 * 6°. 

1752
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,120
So there's even more or two if 
you look into it. 

1753
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,080
But yeah, this is all not my own
research is Rob Skiba and a 

1754
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,040
couple other people that kind of
put this whole list together. 

1755
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,000
Understand that if you're 
testing the globe, you're going 

1756
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,560
to find 6 * 6 and six and six 
everywhere, which we know that 

1757
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,080
number already. 
I don't even need to go over 

1758
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,320
that. 
Understand it. 

1759
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,440
So it's really interesting. 
And so the devil's footprint is 

1760
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:57,120
all over the heliocentric model.
One thing I like to go over, you

1761
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,760
kind of went over First 
Corinthians one, I'm sorry, 

1762
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:04,600
Corinthians 1, Colossians 115, 
sorry. 

1763
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,080
All right, so Colossians 1:15 
we're going to go over that real

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quick. 
He is the image of the invisible

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God for the first born over all 
creation. 

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For by Him all things were 
created that are in heaven, that

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are on earth, visible, 
invisible, with the Thrones, 

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principles, dominions or powers.
All things were created through 

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Him and for him, and He is 
before all things in Him all 

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things consist. 
He is the head of the body of 

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the church, who is the 
beginning. 

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So Jesus is the image of the 
invisible God. 

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So we're actually made in the 
image of Jesus, right? 

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For by him all things were 
created that are in heaven, that

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are on earth. 
So how was that? 

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Because God spoke them into 
existence. 

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He used the word, which is Jesus
to create, right? 

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So I think it's really 
interesting whether they're 

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Thrones, dominions, 
principalities, the powers, all 

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things were created by him are 
through him and for him, through

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him, because he is the word very
interesting and for him and he 

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is before all things in him all 
things consist. 

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So if you look at Corinthians, 
it talks about everything is 

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held together by Jesus, like 
literally. 

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So we got to understand that do 
not worship the created, but 

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worship the creator. 
What happens with the Flat Earth

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community is a lot of them, they
concentrate on Flat Earth so 

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much that they just, they just 
start worshiping the Flat Earth 

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and the creation. 
We need to worship the Creator. 

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We need to lead people to the 
creator and worship the Creator.

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And this is all like the heavens
declare the glory of God, the 

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firmament show this anyway. 
Yeah, this glory in this, But we

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need to give credit to God, 
right? 

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And before we end, I like to go 
over this and this is going to 

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tell you this is going to kind 
of, you know, button it up. 

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Genesis one or Genesis 2 one 
through 4. 

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Thus the heavens and the earth 
and all the hosts of them were 

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finished. 
And on the 7th day God ended his

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work which he had done. 
And he rested on the 7th day 

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from his work which he had done.
Then God blessed the 7th day and

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sanctified it because in in it, 
he rested on all his work which 

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God had created and made. 
He says that this is the history

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of the heavens and the earth 
when they were created and the 

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day that the Lord God made the 
earth and the heavens. 

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So that's the whole entire 
Genesis narrative is the history

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of when the day that they were 
created and the history of when 

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the heavens and the earth were 
created. 

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So God is letting you know that 
day one, day 2, day three, day 

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four, day five, day six, day 7. 
This is how I created it, when I

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created it, how I created it, 
and why I created it's, it's all

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there in the book of Genesis. 
And as you go through the Bible,

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it's all going to be verse by 
verse study like I did and 

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understand. 
So that is the whole entire 

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sermon wrapped up into a bow. 
Bro, the Lord is king. 

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He has robed in majesty. 
Indeed, the Lord is robed in 

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majesty and armed with strength.
The world stands firm and cannot

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be shaken. 
Your throne, O Lord, has stood 

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from times immemorial. 
You yourself are from 

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everlasting past. 
The floods have risen up, O 

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Lord. 
The floods have roared like 

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Thunder. 
The floods have lifted their 

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pounding waves. 
But mightier than the violent 

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raging of the Seas, mightier 
than the Breakers on the shore. 

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The Lord above is mightier than 
these. 

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Your royal laws cannot be 
changed. 

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Your reign. 
O Lord is holy and forever and 

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ever. 
Psalms 93 Josh, I just want to 

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honor you and thank you. 
Man for joining me. 

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You know what you laid out here 
is what what needs to be echoed 

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and people need to hear this and
and I just challenge the 

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listeners to go through to study
to pray. 

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You got a study to show yourself
well approved. 

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That's an individual invitation.
God is saying I am calling each 

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one of us in the ekklesi of the 
body of Christ to be studied and

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ready to give answer in season 
and out of season and Josh plug 

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in real quick one more time 
where you can be found for 

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people that would like to check 
you out. 

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Yeah, so I have a my first show,
Josh Monday Christian. 

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And conspiracy podcast that's on
the audio platforms. 

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My my YouTube is Josh Monday 
music and podcast. 

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And then if you go to cultic 
conspiracy podcast, they 

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actually have me on doing a show
called Sunday service. 

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It's released every Sunday on 
their show. 

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Now Christians be warned that, 
you know, some of their stuff 

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that they have on their actual 
show, there might be cuss words.

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There might be, you know, stuff 
that they're talking about that 

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might be more, you know, in line
with maybe new age stuff like 

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that. 
But what I want to tell you is 

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they have me on their show doing
Sunday service and I do it every

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Sunday and I literally am going 
through the Bible I'm at right 

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now. 
I'm on Genesis 19. 

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I went from Genesis 1 all the 
way to 19. 

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I got five shows out now. 
Now this can be my 6th show if 

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you guys want to check that out.
Just go to Colton Conspiracy and

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look up Sunday service. 
You're going to see every Sunday

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there's an episode release and 
it's just me or it's me with the

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guest and we're just doing a 
Bible study and going through 

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the Bible. 
Now, am I going to be able to 

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make it through the whole entire
Bible? 

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Hey, God willing, I will. 
I'm going to do my very best. 

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But what I do is I just do a lot
of research like I do with the 

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biblical cosmology, and I try to
put it into each show. 

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And it's something that I think 
is vastly important. 

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As Rod knows, there's so many 
people out there that are into 

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conspiracies, that are digging 
into conspiracies and that they 

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just don't have the answers. 
They end up in lost because they

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have the conspiracies and they 
see that the devil is real, but 

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they don't find out that God is 
real. 

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That's what we got to do. 
We got to lead these people, the

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lost to God. 
And that's my whole point of why

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I'm doing these shows is I'm 
trying to lead the conspiracy 

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theorist and the regular people,
the normies or anybody to God. 

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That's what I'm really trying to
do. 

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I'm trying to bring the Bible 
alive and show them that the 

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Bible is alive and well and God 
doesn't need me to do that 

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because his word is amazing. 
But that's just what my my whole

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point doing the show is. 
And I'm trying to lead people 

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that are new age, that are lost,
that are maybe devil or whatever

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they are, I would like to lead 
them to God. 

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And the only way to do that is 
to be in the pits with, you 

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know, with, you know, den of 
atheists or den of whatever and 

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trying to make sure I'm 
spreading the word of God. 

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So anyways, that's it, man. 
Well, that's it. 

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That's the show. 
You guys. 

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I'm going to ask that you would 
share this with a friend. 

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01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,720
Family member, Co worker, share 
it with your pastor coming to 

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01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,480
you from Southeastern 
Pennsylvania. 

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God bless and goodbye, all 
right. 

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Man, wealth of information you. 
Got you. 

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Got quite a layout. 
You've went through this a 

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couple times, right? 
Oh yeah, I've done this a lot of

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times bro. 
And like I said, I do. 

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Debates. 
I do everything I can to just 

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show people what the word says, 
man. 

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And I just I read it word for 
word and so people are just 

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still can't accept it. 
So it's all good, Yeah. 

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Plant seeds and water seeds, 
right? 

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01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,360
Yes, that's what your whole your
whole show. 

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Is right there millennials 
mustard seed? 

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There you go. 
You got it right at the end. 

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Yes, yes. 
Put that part there. 

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01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:18,440
No, I'm just kidding. 
Hey, well, thank you, bro. 

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Thank you, man. 
I appreciate you, man. 

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01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,440
Yeah, yeah. 
Let's let's get connected when 

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the time's right again. 
And, and yeah, I appreciate your

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time, Josh. 
No problem. 

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Thank you, bro. 
God bless you, bro. 

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God bless.
