1 00:00:01,300 --> 00:00:04,600 Hello, folks, this is Princess, you are listening to the 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,600 millennial Mustard Seed, pod casts. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,100 Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your 4 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:23,400 friends. You guys welcome back to the 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,500 show. I have excellent episode in 6 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:28,500 store for you tonight, I have Tom done here with me. 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,500 Tom is a movie producer, you speaks of conferences all over 8 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:34,500 the country. He's got a lot of great things 9 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:36,300 to say. We start off talking a little 10 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:40,000 bit about his testimony, how he came to the place, where he's at 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,600 in life, what led him down. This unique path. 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,700 Ultimately we hit climactic All Points like Supernatural Warfare 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,500 and Satanic ritual abuse. Something a lot of people in our 14 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:53,600 country have been affected by yet. 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,200 It goes under the radar. This stuff is happening right 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,800 under our nose and most of the time, we don't even acknowledge 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,100 its existence. This episode is a roller coaster 18 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:03,800 ride. I'm excited for you guys to take 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,400 this journey with me and Tom done. 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,100 This is going to be one to remember. 21 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:28,300 All right tonight, we got Tom on the show. 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,500 Tom, thanks for being here, Rod. Thank you for having me. 23 00:01:32,900 --> 00:01:37,300 And I'm glad you got through a lot of people reach out and they 24 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:40,300 slip through the cracks. I have so many ways of people 25 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:42,600 that reach, you know, they reach out to me through email. 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Facebook and messages and all that. 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,700 A lot of people get mad at me because I miss their message and 28 00:01:49,700 --> 00:01:51,900 they're like, oh, that guy's you know, whatever. 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,900 I'm glad to be here, man. So Tom let me start off by 30 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:58,000 asking him. How did you end up going down 31 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,800 this unique path. Where did it all start for you? 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,500 For me, it started when I was real young through dreams 33 00:02:05,700 --> 00:02:09,800 through being raised by my grandparents who my grandfather 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,900 was a he was an ordained minister and Taking the church, 35 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:17,200 my parents were divorced. So I kind of got bumped off to 36 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,200 my grandparents because my dad went to Texas and my mom went to 37 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,100 work. I was raised by them, and I just 38 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:26,600 kind of was riding shotgun and learned about the Lord and had a 39 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,800 fascination with Supernatural things. 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,900 And, you know, I have in my studio here, I have a picture up 41 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:35,600 behind me, a famous picture of a guardian angel, that's watching 42 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,400 over to Little Children walking across a bridge. 43 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:41,600 And when I was a little kid that picture kind of frightened me in 44 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,700 fascinated me at the same And my grandparents had it hanging up 45 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:47,400 upstairs outside of their bedroom. 46 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,400 And when I would walk by it, I would just kind of like look at 47 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,900 it real quick and step by it. You know, because I was like, 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,700 what's going on with this picture? 49 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:57,400 This is freaking me out. There's these two little 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,300 children, but there's this white being behind them that like this 51 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,200 thing with wings and I couldn't figure it out and my 52 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,600 grandparents notice, you know, my my reaction to the picture 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,100 one day. They're like you don't like this 54 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:12,700 picture. What's? 55 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:15,500 What's wrong, then? They explained it to me that, 56 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:19,200 you know, this is a this is an illustration of of a guardian 57 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,300 angel watching over the kids as they're, you know, just going 58 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:24,700 across this dangerous looking Bridge. 59 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,900 So I was introduced to the supernatural at a very young 60 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:30,100 age. I had a grandfather, my 61 00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:32,500 grandmother loved the Lord, she taught me the 23rd. 62 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:36,600 Psalm for a school lesson back when they actually still had 63 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Bible classes in school. I would sit in church mostly 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,800 board, but flip Through the Bible and look. 65 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,100 The pictures and my grandma had pictures of really cool 66 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:49,700 paintings like in her Bible so that you know that's what I 67 00:03:49,708 --> 00:03:53,800 would do. My parents were divorced in a 68 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,000 way that I mean it was a blessing and a curse at the same 69 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,400 time because I mean, I was hurt by that, but at the same time, 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,300 it put me in a position to where I could learn about the Lord. 71 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:05,500 And I don't know if I would have had that upbringing had my 72 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:07,900 parents stayed together? I don't know, I don't know what 73 00:04:07,900 --> 00:04:10,300 would happen. I remember having Supernatural 74 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:11,800 dreams. I remember. 75 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:15,800 God showing me Things like I'm not a big dream guy like every 76 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,200 dream mean something, but I remember specific ones like 77 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:23,700 being at my grandparents house and kind of being led out of the 78 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:26,200 house down by the barn. And there was a man in a suit 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,500 they're really sharp looking business. 80 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Business type looking dude and he's like, hey, I want you to 81 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,900 come with me and I knew who he was. 82 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:36,400 I knew it was the devil and I was like, I'm not going with 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,500 you. I'm not going to go with you and 84 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:41,800 I didn't even really understand what that meant at the time and 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,100 the impact on it. I guess just by God's grace you 86 00:04:45,108 --> 00:04:48,200 know being raised by my grandparents praying with him on 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,000 a regular basis and you know that was back in the day when 88 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,100 they would go do visitation and people would come over and they 89 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:56,800 would have prayer meetings. That would last for hours, I 90 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,500 would dislike go outside and play and come back and I'm like 91 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:01,100 holy moly, what's wrong with these guys? 92 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:04,600 They're still praying and they're just crying out to God 93 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,800 and really getting a hold of the throne of grace. 94 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,100 So that was you know that was my experience. 95 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:13,700 That's what I witnessed in my teenage years It's okay, this 96 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:17,100 plays a big part in it even though I had that Foundation, I 97 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:19,700 still had a choice to make I was at a Crossroads. 98 00:05:19,700 --> 00:05:23,500 I was missing my dad and I came from a broken family and I was 99 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:27,900 hurt and I could have chose, you know, to go down a road where 100 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:30,800 you know a lot of people do they use painkillers. 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,000 So you know, sex drugs Rock and Roll. 102 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,000 But by the grace of God, the Lord puts somebody in my life in 103 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,400 school. And I started hanging out with 104 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,700 this guy and he had a church in a youth group. 105 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:45,400 So I started going to you Group with him and I was like, oh man 106 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,200 church is not so boring. This is kind of cool. 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,300 I didn't know, I didn't know. People could be so cool. 108 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:53,100 I started listening to Christian music and Christian music. 109 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:57,400 Really played just a very significant part in my life 110 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,800 because I'm again, I'm sitting here in my studio and I'm 111 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,300 looking at a wall where I have all these records hanging up and 112 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:05,400 all of the music. I used to listen to Christian 113 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,100 rock and Christian met on all the music was about spiritual 114 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:10,600 warfare. It got me reading the Bible and 115 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,600 it got me, you know, studying the Bible. 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,100 And A way that I never would, you know, and it was kind of 117 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:17,900 systemic because I was going through and picking out all the 118 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:20,800 verses about spiritual warfare. I was like, oh man, this is, 119 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,700 this is kind of cool. So so when I was in high school 120 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:28,700 we started a Ministry called the violent piece Ministries. 121 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:32,000 We were kind of like a game. You know, we walked around with 122 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,400 leather jackets and jean jackets and we love the Lord and you 123 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,900 know we weren't playing. We were innocent in our 124 00:06:37,900 --> 00:06:41,400 thoughts. Very naive very zealous but we 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,600 didn't do everything, right? Because we Kids and we didn't 126 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,900 know. So, like, when's it start 127 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:48,100 talking about Satanism or something like that? 128 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,900 We would, you know, we'd be like, hey, this is our school, 129 00:06:51,100 --> 00:06:54,900 you know, you're not, you're not welcome here, take a hike. 130 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,400 So it was that sort of thing. All of those things play a part 131 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,100 and God knew what he was doing and it's amazing. 132 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:04,500 All the elements, you know that hurt us and help us in our life, 133 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:08,800 my parents divorce and me, missing my dad devastated me and 134 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,400 it caused things in me like separation anxiety. 135 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:15,900 That when I got married at a young age, I was about 19 years 136 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:17,100 old. I didn't even know I had 137 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:21,000 separation anxiety, and I was fearful of being left because my 138 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,400 parents split up, but there are things that affect us. 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,700 The traumatize us, every one of us has those types of things 140 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:30,200 growing up. And, you know, think good things 141 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,900 to right out of high school, it was a little over a year I got 142 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:38,600 married because I believed it was better to marry than to burn 143 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,500 with passion. And I was burning with passion. 144 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:42,700 Yeah, many of us can relate to that. 145 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,600 That thing that I started in high school, we continued it. 146 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,500 When we got out of high school and we started a church, 147 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:51,500 Downtown Mansfield, and mind you. 148 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:54,600 I was an ordained, but I started the church and I ask other 149 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,200 people to come in and preach. It was out of an apartment. 150 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,200 Building an upper floor, apartment building is 164 and a 151 00:08:00,207 --> 00:08:03,600 half West, First Street Mansfield Ohio and it was a 152 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,100 one-bedroom apartment, but on Sundays we turn our living room 153 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:09,400 into a sanctuary and people would come up. 154 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,500 People came from really sometimes all over Ohio. 155 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Come to our little church speakers. 156 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,900 Would come in and share a. We would preach the gospel 157 00:08:18,100 --> 00:08:21,200 again. Having no accountability and I 158 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,900 sought out. Accountability, there was fruit, 159 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:27,600 but there was, there was a situation kind of like Paul 160 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,900 described in Corinthians because I was kind of like a Lone Ranger 161 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:33,799 Christian. Where I begin to believe. 162 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,299 I wasn't part of the body of Christ because so many people 163 00:08:36,299 --> 00:08:38,500 told me you're not part of the body of Christ, you don't 164 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:40,400 belong. So I began to believe that. 165 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:44,000 So I got an interest in I'm right about that time. 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,900 I'm talking about things with you Rod that I rarely talk 167 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:49,800 about. Yeah, I love hearing the 168 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,800 testimonies. So what happened next right 169 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,800 around that time, I got an interest in film, it really kind 170 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,900 of turned out to be a distraction, rather than a 171 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:01,400 blessing. And it almost became kind of 172 00:09:01,408 --> 00:09:05,600 like an idol in my life and it really kind of led me down like 173 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,100 a liberal Road. You know, where I started 174 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:12,200 researching film, I started just having a fascination with film 175 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,400 and filmmaking. Makers and art, and all these 176 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,700 things. And I really got kind of liberal 177 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:20,500 just kind of justifying things for a while. 178 00:09:20,700 --> 00:09:22,800 Long story short, I was married, 10 years. 179 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,700 I went through a divorce. That's a, that's a messy story. 180 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:28,500 I remarried. And I said, you know what, 181 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,700 whatever I do. I'm just going to go to church 182 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:33,500 and that's all I'm going to do. I'm not going to get involved in 183 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:36,400 Ministry anymore because I blame God, and I kind of said my 184 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,100 heart, you know what, I'm not gonna do this anymore because I 185 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:42,700 tried to do some stuff for God and God didn't have my back. 186 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,500 So, I'm just going to go to church and not do anything else. 187 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:50,500 Well, that didn't last long because I then found this guy by 188 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:54,400 the name of Russ dizdar and I began listening to his podcast 189 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:58,000 and I was like, oh my gosh, this guy is talking about what I used 190 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,200 to talk about and what I used to hear people like Bob Larson 191 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,200 talked about like 10 years ago. I haven't heard anybody talk 192 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,800 about this. I found out this guy is in Ohio. 193 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Okay, I got to reach out to him so I reached out to him and I 194 00:10:10,608 --> 00:10:12,300 told him, hey, I want to make a movie about the things you 195 00:10:12,308 --> 00:10:14,200 talked about. About, they freak people out. 196 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,700 I had no interest rod and and helping anybody. 197 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,000 Well, I just wanted to make a film that would freak people out 198 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,700 because Hollywood's making millions of dollars about the 199 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:25,500 things that Russ dizdar talks about. 200 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:28,600 I'm like, this is better than Hollywood because this is the 201 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,400 real thing. All the stuff in Hollywood is 202 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,300 fake. I said, this is going to freak 203 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:36,100 people out and I was scared to make the film but I didn't care 204 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,300 my interest in just having the best film on this subject. 205 00:10:40,300 --> 00:10:43,100 You know, was more, I reached out to Russ, he Okay, you want 206 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:44,800 to make a film? He's like here, take this take 207 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,900 this, you know, research this and then we'll talk about it. 208 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,300 Long story short, Russ dizdar took me under his wing. 209 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,200 He basically mentored me discipled. 210 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,100 Me, took me all around the world. 211 00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:58,300 I went to Germany, I went to Scotland. 212 00:10:58,300 --> 00:11:00,100 I went to Poland, I went to New York. 213 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:04,100 I went I went so many places with Russ and he said, I don't 214 00:11:04,100 --> 00:11:06,300 know what it was but by you know, the grace of God. 215 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,400 So instead of making the film, I wanted to make, I ended up 216 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,300 becoming like a counselor and a Deliverance Minister I had no 217 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:13,800 plans. In doing any of this, by the 218 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,800 way, I just want to make a movie and that's what I did. 219 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,500 And I lived for it and I prayed, Lord, I want to do this, I want 220 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:22,500 to do this, and if you open the door, I'll do. 221 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:25,000 I'll give dedicate my life to this. 222 00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:27,900 And I prayed and prayed and prayed for years, I honestly 223 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:31,400 prayed for years believing that any second, the door would open 224 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,100 and I will be able to do this full-time. 225 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:36,100 Finally, it did almost three years ago. 226 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:38,700 I lost track. Now, I'm doing this full time. 227 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:40,000 I will always want to make a movie. 228 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Now I've made three movies and we do. 229 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,000 Of course, the through the black YouTube channel and we've got 230 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,500 hundreds of episodes and we talked about spiritual warfare 231 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:54,000 and stuff. So that is that's the story of 232 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,400 how I got to where I am. And it's all, you know, in 233 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,800 hindsight, I can see the hand of God just using the things of my 234 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,900 life. Good and bad to put me where I'm 235 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:07,700 at. And I was born to do what I'm 236 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:10,500 doing right now. There's a lot of flavor to 237 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:12,200 everything. You were just saying there, the 238 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,400 Lord Works all things together for the good of those who are 239 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,200 called according to his purpose. I know that the world, you know, 240 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,100 they want to harness us to the plow and make us produce and 241 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:24,600 have us not ask any questions, right? 242 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:25,500 Yeah. I agree. 243 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:29,300 Just be a good boy and go and be a consumer and it's awesome. 244 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:32,500 How when we just keep crying out to God and walking through the 245 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:36,500 Journey of this life that when we trust him he's going to bring 246 00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:39,900 us into a place where we're able to do exactly what he designed 247 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:42,600 us to do it man. That's an amazing testimony. 248 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,400 And I know Drew graffia was on last and he had messaged me 249 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,800 after I release the episode him and his wife, listen to it. 250 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,100 And he's like, dude, this is the most personal interview I've 251 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:55,500 ever done in my life. I love being able to be a part 252 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:58,600 of that because you guys have been a blessing to me and I know 253 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,400 the audience, you know, working in your gift and just helping to 254 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,100 expose things that go under the radar. 255 00:13:04,300 --> 00:13:07,200 Now, tell me a little bit about your show. 256 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:09,800 What you got going on and anything exciting. 257 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,600 That's on the horizon. I guess we're coming up on a 258 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:15,700 Four year anniversary, maybe in February for the through the 259 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:17,500 black YouTube channel. Okay. 260 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:24,400 In 2016, we release the film detestable which is a film that 261 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,200 exposes Satanic ritual abuse. Okay? 262 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:31,000 I made that movie and and that's a story in itself and I can tell 263 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,900 you about that. I mean, God opened the door for 264 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:37,200 that and I had no money to make a movie but I just I really felt 265 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:39,800 inspired by the Lord to make this movie and all the 266 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,000 everything happened. And you know, the Lord opened 267 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,900 the doors and Now, the movies actually on Amazon actually have 268 00:13:44,900 --> 00:13:48,100 two movies on Amazon Prime. So we're able to use the enemy's 269 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:51,200 platform when we made the movie. We wanted to promote the movie, 270 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:54,100 you know, we went on all the podcast and all the shows that 271 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:58,100 we could and, you know, we just got all everybody who's a friend 272 00:13:58,100 --> 00:13:59,500 of ours. Say, hey, can we have on? 273 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:01,100 Can we promote this queen promote this? 274 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,100 And then we kind of got to the end of that list. 275 00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:04,600 It's like, okay, what do we do now? 276 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,800 Well, maybe now we do our own show Jared my co-host and I we 277 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,900 have a lot of conversations about deliverance and Virtual 278 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:15,800 Warfare and that sort of thing, we thought, well, these 279 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:18,900 conversations that we're having would be very beneficial to 280 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:21,600 other people out there. So like, why don't we just do 281 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,300 what we do, but share it with the world. 282 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:27,000 So that's kind of how the through the black Channel 283 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,700 started out. It's been a crazy ride. 284 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:32,800 I mean, I'll just say, I'll put it like this, you know, people 285 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,100 like our show just because we're really laid-back and we don't 286 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:38,900 take ourselves too seriously and we have fun. 287 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:42,600 But we also talk about a very serious subject but we're very 288 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,500 Transparent. We try to be very human and we 289 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,400 don't try to come across as holier than now. 290 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:51,700 I mean, I believe in Holiness and righteousness and living for 291 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:54,500 God and all that. But I'm also very transparent. 292 00:14:54,500 --> 00:14:58,100 I'm honest. And I bear my scars because I 293 00:14:58,100 --> 00:15:00,800 know the listeners are dealing with the same type of struggles 294 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,100 that I am. Its spiritual warfare and it's 295 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:06,500 the key. I think to the Christian Life, 296 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:11,000 it's what's missing in churches. This should be the training that 297 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,800 new converts get. You know, within the first 298 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,800 couple months of getting saved but it's not there and they 299 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,600 don't understand that. There's something else going on. 300 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,600 It's supernatural that you have an enemy that wants to destroy 301 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,900 your life and he wants to do anything. 302 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:29,100 He can to trip you up to try and destroy your ministry to try and 303 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:31,500 mess up your walk and tempt you and all that stuff. 304 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:35,800 And when you know your enemy, you you have a better chance of 305 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:40,400 overcoming and having Victory. I tell people this, so I 306 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,800 understood the concept of spiritual warfare when A 307 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,900 teenager, but I didn't have any training. 308 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:47,600 I didn't have any Mentor, I didn't have these strategy, 309 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,500 anything like that. So when I tote, what I took, 310 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:53,000 those courses that I told you about, by the way, I highly 311 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 recommend the courses by Russ dizdar. 312 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,600 I took this course called confronting the powers, they're 313 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,100 free. All this stuff is free on his 314 00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:01,500 website. It's called Chowder, the 315 00:16:01,508 --> 00:16:05,800 darkness dotnet. So I took that course, and I 316 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,000 took it because I wanted to do research and learn okay. 317 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:12,900 What I need to learn about, you know, this Object. 318 00:16:12,900 --> 00:16:15,800 So I can make a movie on it. And what the weird thing to 319 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,200 happen was I got I began to get help. 320 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:21,300 I was like, whoa. Okay, you mean these things? 321 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:25,200 I've been struggling with, I can actually overcome these fears 322 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,500 that I've had since I was in second grade and my mom was 323 00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:31,600 doing tarot cards in the kitchen. 324 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,100 And there was something that came into my room. 325 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,600 And I had a fear all the way into my 30s. 326 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,100 When I took that course that fear went away, This is what I 327 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:43,700 tell people that happen to me. I used to be afraid to get up in 328 00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:46,500 the middle of the night, okay? In my own house, as a grown, 329 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:52,200 man, I learned my authority. I learned about the armor of God 330 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,800 and I learned, you know, just you know all this all the 331 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,800 spiritual warfare strategy and how to overcome and how to beat 332 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,900 it and all that stuff. So what I used to be afraid of. 333 00:17:01,900 --> 00:17:04,900 Now my nightmares are afraid of me but not so much me, but the 334 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:07,900 spirit of God and me and I go after the darkness. 335 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:11,700 Now, instead of hiding from, I can relate to a little bit of 336 00:17:11,700 --> 00:17:15,300 that there, I grew up in an old farmhouse. 337 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:18,000 It was kind of a creepy house. Who could always feel Think 338 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,800 they're so I can definitely relate to, you know, that 339 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,500 feeling of just fear of, I feel like a lot of the times people 340 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:28,000 come to the Lord in some devastating situation or they 341 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,300 grew up in the church but they don't really get the proper 342 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:35,100 training of where to go, you know, they just this whole book 343 00:17:35,100 --> 00:17:37,900 is thrown out and it's sitting in their lap and, you know, they 344 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:40,600 may turn and end up on a genealogy, just flipping pages 345 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,000 and be like, well, this is kind of boring. 346 00:17:42,100 --> 00:17:45,400 Oh, the new James Bond movies out, you know, in the church 347 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,200 kind of like wags, its head and wonders, why can't we Get more 348 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,800 men in the church. WIll some of these Supernatural 349 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,000 things that the Bible talks about. 350 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,200 It's so important that were able to discuss and go through that 351 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,400 stuff because the battles. Real, the very first episode, I 352 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,400 did here on the millennial Mustard Seed was with my pastor, 353 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,500 Randy, and we talked about supernatural Warfare. 354 00:18:06,700 --> 00:18:09,500 The three of us were. Chopping it up and talking about 355 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:12,800 our experiences. And why it's so important to 356 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,200 realize the presence of this enemy that Wars against our 357 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,100 souls? There was a Sure. 358 00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:22,700 And the bathroom and it was this old black and white picture of a 359 00:18:22,700 --> 00:18:26,100 lady who had a bar soap, it was like an advertisement picture. 360 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,300 She was advertising this bar. So next to like an old clawfoot 361 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:33,000 bathtub and for some reason, my parents had this hanging up and 362 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:36,600 in the bathroom of the old farm house that I grew up in, and it 363 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,800 creeped me out because this picture, I just felt like the 364 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,500 hair stand up, on the back of my neck. 365 00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:44,200 And at this time, I didn't grow up in the church. 366 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,400 I didn't really know what was going on, but I knew there was 367 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,900 something weird in. The house and this picture in 368 00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:50,600 particular just really scared me. 369 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:54,200 There was a point in time where I honestly believe this thing 370 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,000 moved its head and just had like a demonic look in its eyes. 371 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,600 That was traumatizing to me it sounds like foolish in a sense 372 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,400 to the world. They're like man you were just 373 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,300 scared kid here parent or do you watch a scary movie or 374 00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:10,000 something? But to me it rattled, my cage at 375 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,400 a very young age and then I battled with the fear of just 376 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,300 something. I couldn't really identify that 377 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:17,300 I knew hated me. If that makes sense. 378 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:21,600 Yeah, hear you talk about, okay? And just I can relate, you know, 379 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,800 I've had some dreams and things and I know the Lord has really 380 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,400 just given me peace over the years as I continue in the word. 381 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,900 But, you know, when we get sidetracked and we get caught up 382 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:35,200 in the passions of this life, the attacks come flooding in and 383 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,500 it's a quick reminder. And I need to take up the armor 384 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:41,100 that the helmet of salvation, the breastplate of 385 00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:44,400 righteousness, the the sword of the spirit, you know, our 386 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,600 Shield, all these different things, God gives us, right? 387 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:49,900 Right. And then what are you working on 388 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:51,400 this? Going to help this younger 389 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,200 generation and some of the older listeners that I have here on 390 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,400 the podcast. I've made three films. 391 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,300 The first ones called detestable, the second one is 392 00:19:59,300 --> 00:20:02,500 called, this is a war and the third one is called fire and 393 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:07,700 brimstone, okay. And the second one is just kind 394 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:11,500 of a profile of some different people that give their testimony 395 00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:14,100 about spiritual warfare and it kind of all circles around and 396 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:16,900 kind of comes together. It's about 7 people. 397 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,700 And I Just kind of mash it all together. 398 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,700 The film I made after that was about the life of David Arthur, 399 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,400 David Arthur. Lived, you know, over 20 years 400 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,000 of his life as a woman, he was a transgender guy and he was on 401 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,300 his deathbed dying of symptoms from AIDS, and he was ready to 402 00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:37,500 die. He finally got saved. 403 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:40,700 He's like okay, Lord, go ahead and take me and instead God 404 00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:44,300 taking him, he got healed and he got up out. 405 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:47,500 He was just he was a dead man and he got up out of the bed and 406 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:50,500 It's his story, it's called fire and brimstone and it's a 407 00:20:50,508 --> 00:20:54,000 powerful story, just about how he got recruited. 408 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,900 How he was abused as a child, and the doors were open in his 409 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:02,500 life, how he went down the road that he did and how he got 410 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:05,800 saved. So and then the warning for the 411 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,300 children, the sexualization of, you know, that this culture 412 00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:13,000 wants to put in our children and just basically training kids 413 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,000 that there is no gender and that there is no, there's no such 414 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,400 things as The thing is boy and a girl, you know, and you could be 415 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,900 whatever you want or whatever you think you are, just the 416 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:25,700 aggressive attack on the children. 417 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:30,400 So and it kind of exposes that that's only available on DVD by 418 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,200 the way. Because we can't really put it 419 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,400 up anywhere because it'll get censored or taking down 420 00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:38,300 everything that we do. I really believe is important. 421 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:41,700 You know, the the black channel has hundreds of archives. 422 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:45,300 Now you can kind of just go through their pick a subject 423 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:47,500 almost and learn about something. 424 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,000 Spiritual warfare. We've covered it from 425 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,400 Deliverance to the new age, to haunted houses, to training, and 426 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,700 spiritual warfare, just, all of those. 427 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:58,800 All of those things, you know, you mentioned about. 428 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,300 What am I, what am I doing right now? 429 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:02,100 Actually, on our YouTube channel? 430 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:04,100 There's a video that's dropping today. 431 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,400 That is a little 20-minute production. 432 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,300 And what I did is I kind of compiled all the testimonies 433 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,400 that I could find of Satanic ritual abuse and I put them 434 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,600 together in a way, that's really. 435 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:21,000 Never been done before just kind of like a collage just 436 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:24,500 hard-hitting. Testimony after hard-hitting 437 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:29,200 testimony of these people on their just telling what? 438 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,800 They know what they saw what they experience of satanic Cults 439 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,000 operating. You know. 440 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,800 And they're just talking from a place of experience. 441 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,900 So I'm excited about that because we're trying to make 442 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,200 videos that are going to Red Pill people on this issue. 443 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:47,400 I don't feel like we're paranoid about this. 444 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,900 This issue we're just very aware of this issue. 445 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:54,000 Okay, I always talk about Russ. Okay, he's a good friend of 446 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 mine. He's a good teacher, he's really 447 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,700 good at what he does. There's a lot of other books out 448 00:22:57,700 --> 00:22:59,900 there besides him. So I just want to mention. 449 00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:02,600 There's a lot of other great resources, but I feel like he's 450 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,600 the best of the best because he's learned the hard way. 451 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,300 He's probably number one on this planet, the person that's dealt 452 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:11,300 with this stuff and the person that's going after it and in the 453 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:15,000 knowledge that he has about it and him helping the survivors 454 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,400 and the victims. I've never seen anything like 455 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,600 it. When you take one of his courses 456 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:22,400 and then you watch the news, you don't see it the same way that 457 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,700 you used to. You see, a shooter on the news. 458 00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:27,200 Okay. If you remember this took place, 459 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:29,600 I don't know how many years ago, probably close to 10 years ago 460 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,900 now. Where there was a guy that was 461 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,300 going in, he shot up a Navy shipyard that was over on the 462 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:38,700 east coast somewhere. And he wrote on his, on the 463 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:43,400 stock of his rifle. This is my e.l.f weapon e.l.f 464 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,300 means extremely low-frequency. There's more to that story, 465 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:48,200 there's more to this this shoe. Other stories. 466 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,700 Okay, the guy in Colorado. You know, you look at these 467 00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:52,300 pictures and you can see in their eyes. 468 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,200 Something is something else is going on. 469 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,000 We're not saying every single person is programmed, look at 470 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,700 Sirhan Sirhan, the guy that killed Robert Kennedy. 471 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:04,300 He came out and said, yeah, he's been mind-controlled. 472 00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:06,600 So it's connected to Ritual abuse. 473 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,200 It's connected to government mind control, that sort of 474 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,500 thing, all that stuff is connected, and it's what we 475 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:15,000 expose. We are overwhelmed with people 476 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,200 reaching out to us, trying to get help. 477 00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:21,900 Trying to get set free Deliverance just anything that 478 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:24,300 they can get. We have so many things. 479 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,100 So many irons in the fire. I want to mention our news 480 00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:30,900 website. It's called real dark news and 481 00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:34,400 basically, it's just a News website, and I have a few 482 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,500 writers that write on there and they're constantly releasing 483 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:42,500 stories about just this crazy, dark news that happens every 484 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:44,800 day. That's gets buried in 485 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,700 newspapers. It's happening all over the 486 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:49,800 country. And it's kind of a downer but, 487 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,700 you know, we want to expose the darkness, we know that we have 488 00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,900 the light of the world, Jesus Christ, okay? 489 00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:57,800 He's the resurrection and the life, anybody who believes in 490 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,700 him shall live, we're trying to shine a light in the darkness. 491 00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:04,900 So we're constantly exposing just any kind of story, whether 492 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,800 it's a serial killer, it's just a lot of craziness. 493 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,400 One of the trends we've been seeing in the last couple months 494 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,700 is parents killing their children, mothers killing their 495 00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:16,600 children. You know, and it just kind of 496 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,500 comes in waves. Real dark news.com is the 497 00:25:19,508 --> 00:25:21,700 website. You can kind of go on there and 498 00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:23,900 just look. And there's over a thousand 499 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,800 stories on their, of archives of this type of stuff, that type of 500 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,300 news, but a Christian worldview, you know, absolutely. 501 00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:33,500 Jesus Christ, is the answer, he's the Savior. 502 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:36,300 He's the hero of humanity, you know, there's a lot of people 503 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:38,500 out there presenting the darkness. 504 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:41,600 We're presenting it from a Biblical standpoint. 505 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,900 Yeah, my grandfather. He passed away a few years ago 506 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,500 but he used to say, you know, you got to study Be your enemy 507 00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:51,600 to know how he like meanders through and like the tricks. 508 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,400 He's going to pull, you know, he would always kind of remind me 509 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,000 because I've never been a fan of like, horror movies or anything 510 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800 like that. I even remember when I was like, 511 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,700 12, the neighbors had a. But, you know, a bunch of kids 512 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,200 are hanging out there on the porch and the kid comes to the 513 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,800 door who lived there with the Ouija board. 514 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,900 He's like, come on, we're all going to play and something 515 00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:13,600 inside of me, just like struck like I'm like, absolutely not 516 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,300 and I hightailed it home. Like I knew there was something 517 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,300 wrong. With that even before I knew, 518 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,300 you know, a Biblical perspective if you will but my grandfather's 519 00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:24,800 always say, you know, you got to be aware of the tactics of the 520 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,700 enemy. Let me ask you this real quick. 521 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:30,400 Do you think just through like movies or like Disney or the 522 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,800 news today that there's some strongholds that are able to 523 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,400 attach onto people that are unaware of this systematic 524 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,900 desensitization that the enemy is using through all these 525 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:44,200 social Outlets? What are your thoughts? 526 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,400 Oh yeah, yeah, I absolutely believe it did. 527 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,100 It really depends. Okay. 528 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,400 I believe a Christian has more protection than anybody else. 529 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,900 Okay. So agree. 530 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,800 I can go and I can watch a TV show or a movie or something 531 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:01,900 that a horror movie or something like that fascination with the 532 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:04,500 supernatural. So I used to love that stuff, 533 00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:07,500 but the closer I get to the Lord, when I watch something, it 534 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:09,700 Wars against my spirit, you know what I'm saying? 535 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,300 And once in a great while I will watch something for 536 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:18,500 presuppositional analysis, okay? So I'm doing Research, but I'm 537 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:21,900 very careful about what I do. But even as a Christian, I can 538 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:24,800 feel the conflict and it can be in books, it can be on a 539 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,400 website, you can be a media, it can it can be anywhere. 540 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,100 And the further away from you are from the Lord, the less 541 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:34,300 you're going to notice that a lot of times, you know, we'll go 542 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:37,300 we can go into places, you know, that are dark, dark parts of the 543 00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:40,200 city spiritually dark, and people will know, they'll 544 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,400 recognize you before you recognize them, because they're 545 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,700 cloaked, we're not we're out in the open, right? 546 00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:49,500 The spirit of God. It in me, irritates the Demonic 547 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:53,100 in them that they may not be possessed, but they might have 548 00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:57,400 some kind of stronghold or oppression on them because I 549 00:27:57,408 --> 00:27:59,800 don't think every single person is possessed. 550 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,300 But yeah, I think those things can have an effect. 551 00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:04,900 And the more, the more you get into God's word, the more you're 552 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:07,100 praying, the more you're praising, God, and worshiping 553 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:08,300 him to less. You're going to want to do with 554 00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:10,700 that stuff. Okay, the enemies always 555 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:13,300 knocking, right? And he's always trying to, to 556 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,900 open the door. And every I think everybody has 557 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:20,600 Something they like, they probably shouldn't, you know 558 00:28:20,608 --> 00:28:23,600 what I mean? And yeah, I have, you know, I 559 00:28:23,608 --> 00:28:26,300 have there's a lot of music. I liked, I probably shouldn't 560 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:28,500 like it, but I'm not going to allow it to be king of my heart. 561 00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:32,100 A lot of these bands are involved in the occult and stuff 562 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:34,700 like that. And it used to be kind of, you 563 00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:37,900 know, just heavy metal music. But then you know, nowadays, 564 00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:40,200 it's all music. It's all pop music hip-hop. 565 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:42,400 They're involved in the occult and involved in all kinds of 566 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,700 stuff. It was more blatant, you know, 567 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:46,800 in metal music, back in the 70s and 80s. 568 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,600 Now it's blatant everywhere and This kind of like all it's, you 569 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,100 know, it's a free-for-all. So those things definitely have 570 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,000 an effect, the closer you are to the Lord, the sharper you are 571 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,400 and discernment the quicker. You're going to notice it music. 572 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,300 Especially I could get I know three people right now that were 573 00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:08,000 unwilling to put their music life under the lordship of 574 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,200 Christ and they basically worshipped music and they 575 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,000 couldn't get away from it, rock and roll, right? 576 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Three people, I know that turned their back on God to of the 577 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:23,700 Guys, especially are just so far gone now and it's all because 578 00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:27,500 they love that music so much. They couldn't let go of it. 579 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,300 You know. It just had a grip on their 580 00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,500 heart and the message in the music is Antichrist. 581 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Yeah. We see a lot of that. 582 00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:38,400 I mean, I feel like the days were living in, especially in to 583 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,100 go beyond the borders of just the music realm. 584 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,700 It's almost like the line is being drawn in the sand. 585 00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:50,100 I see the pillars being set for To show up just like it said to. 586 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:52,500 And I'm not one of those guys who's like, oh, I think we're 587 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,000 right here right now. But even people that are 588 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,800 unbelievers in my life and my work place and my personal life, 589 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,900 you know, places I go to were saying something's wrong here, 590 00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,800 this ain't right, or there's tension in the air, it's not 591 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,900 like it will, I keep hearing. Well, it's not like, it was five 592 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:11,900 years ago, even 10 years ago, 20 years ago to agitation, is just 593 00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:14,200 there. And a lot of people that are 594 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,700 serving, the god of their belly, where the god of they're all 595 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:19,800 Idol. You are are blindsided by it, 596 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,300 but you have a lot of people that are in this like, Middle 597 00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:25,300 Ground, you know that are just doing their rituals going 598 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:27,300 through life. They're going to work coming 599 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:29,700 home, eating dinner, you know, they may have a little bit of 600 00:30:29,708 --> 00:30:32,300 entertainment with their movie thing or their Hobby and then 601 00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:35,100 they just reset do it all over again and they get caught in 602 00:30:35,108 --> 00:30:37,300 that Trend. Those people are the ones that 603 00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:40,200 I've gotten a huge influx of, hey, man. 604 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,200 I know I used to call you really Fringe and a little bit weird. 605 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,200 A few years ago, but I think you're on to something. 606 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:47,100 No. Because the content here on the 607 00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,900 podcast, we cover a Supernatural stuff Angels, just the 608 00:30:49,908 --> 00:30:53,300 conception real quick, Tom. You think most people when they 609 00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:56,000 think of an Angel, they think of the fat little baby with wings 610 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,400 feeding people grapes, you know? I heard somebody say that this 611 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,700 morning and yeah, you know, I don't know what they think, but 612 00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:05,200 I don't think they have a Biblical concept of. 613 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,200 No, I mean, look at cherubs or seraphim. 614 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,300 I mean, we're talking about Fierce angels, with multiple 615 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:14,300 heads burnished feet, like, hopes of a bowl, you know, 616 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:16,700 multiple wings like eyes within and about. 617 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:19,300 If you read about the room, the Our own Guardian Revelation. 618 00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:21,900 I mean this is cool stuff forward shaken. 619 00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:24,100 When they met them they were scared to death. 620 00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,600 Oh, I can't I can't exactly remember the name of it but I 621 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,400 heard an interview with this guy and I have it like on my by list 622 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,200 is called the mighty angels of the Bible or the mighty angels 623 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,200 of Revelation. This guy wrote a whole book on 624 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,600 it, it was so fascinating, just he really went into detail. 625 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,400 Using biblical resources, just talking about angels. 626 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:46,400 You know the Apostle Paul talks about the Thrones dominions, you 627 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,500 know, principalities powers. I think a couple hundred times 628 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,300 it mentions the word Angel, which and the Hebrew is malach, 629 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,600 and in the Greek is Angelo's, and it literally means messenger 630 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,600 not of This World In His Scriptures, it talks about their 631 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,100 status being to serve those, who will inherit eternity. 632 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,000 You know, we're not talking about some soft small winged 633 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,000 fat, little baby here. And I think that as people 634 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,500 understand in the here, podcast like this, I hear about what 635 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:13,300 you're doing guys like l.a. Marzulli. 636 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,700 Other guys that are just being bold and just saying this is 637 00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,400 what the text says. It means what it says and says 638 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,600 what it means. Because the veils thinning, you 639 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,800 have an influx of people in today's day and age that are 640 00:32:24,808 --> 00:32:27,900 having experiences. Now, there's a lot of 641 00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,300 conversations I've had all fair where people are telling me 642 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:33,900 about supernatural things that they've been experiencing and 643 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:36,700 we're talking about people who you know live the whole life 644 00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,400 like never dealing with anything but within the last five years 645 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,300 there like this really Disturbed me and I don't fight I don't 646 00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:44,600 feel like there's anybody else I have to talk about it with I've 647 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,800 even had the response of well I can't tell it to my pastor in 648 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,600 the church. Search, you know, they're rigid. 649 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,300 Mander, you know, same message. It's like clockwork. 650 00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:53,500 You can go with this time of the year. 651 00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:54,500 You own this know, what you're going to hear. 652 00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:57,500 They're just seeing how the Lord worked mice were together. 653 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,000 We all have a story Tom. Each one of us has a unique 654 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,000 testimony in a story and as people are flooding in and 655 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,600 going, hey, you know, I had this weird experience or demonic 656 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,000 experience or dream or I seen something in the sky move a 90 657 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,700 degree at a speed, it shouldn't Knowing that the Bible is going 658 00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:17,300 to be there. At the end of the day we can go 659 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:18,900 and ask questions about the Bible. 660 00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,400 We can study it and show ourselves well approved and 661 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,900 enter in and it's not going to like vanish and disappear. 662 00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:27,600 I feel like some of the big churches out here, preach 663 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,400 prosperity and there's a huge body of people who've had weird 664 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,200 experiences and they don't know where to go. 665 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,400 They don't know what to do with it. 666 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,200 But here is the answer, the living breathing word of God. 667 00:33:38,208 --> 00:33:41,100 With some of the things that you were saying. 668 00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:45,100 It just makes me think of something that we Always say the 669 00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:49,200 church should be on The Cutting Edge and we're not were like 30 670 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,800 years behind churches are afraid of these issues when people come 671 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,100 to pastors with the things, like what you were saying this. 672 00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:01,700 This really, it makes me angry to say this and this is why I do 673 00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:05,800 what I do and we try, we offer any training that we can, but 674 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,300 pastors will tell people sometimes two things. 675 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,000 This is what we hear all the time, one you need a 676 00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:16,400 psychiatrist or psychologist. Just or two, you need to go see 677 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,699 a Catholic priest and I want to scream, I want to scream, I'm 678 00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:25,600 like you a Christian Evangelical, Pastor are sending 679 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:31,100 somebody to the Catholic church or to a psychiatrist because you 680 00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:34,000 don't have the answers, we have God's word. 681 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,699 We have this amazing truth from another dimension. 682 00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:41,400 There's no other book like it. Everything in there that we need 683 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,800 to know is covered in God's word. 684 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,800 It just it frustrates me because I don't I'm not on my high 685 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,000 horse. I don't think I'm better than 686 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,800 these pastors, but I am frustrated with them because 687 00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:56,100 Christian pastors should not be afraid of this, and they should 688 00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:00,500 not be sending people to see a psychologist or to a Catholic 689 00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:02,300 priest. We should be cutting edge. 690 00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:05,000 We should be ready to go. We have the answers for ghost, 691 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,900 we have the answers for new age, for aliens, for all these 692 00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:09,400 things. We should know, the answers, 693 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,100 exactly. How counter, or how to respond 694 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,200 and how to minister, and do a Jetix with these issues. 695 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:20,600 So yeah I mean because people are out there and they want 696 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,100 answers and if the church doesn't give them an answer then 697 00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:25,400 they are going to go somewhere else. 698 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,300 They are going to go to the new age, they are going to go you 699 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:32,500 know to the occult or whatever. And that's unnecessary, we have 700 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,700 the answers. God's word has the answers. 701 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,300 Absolutely. I couldn't have said it better 702 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:37,800 myself. My generation. 703 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,300 They're flocking to any and everything that even looks like 704 00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:45,500 it. It can to give them an answer. 705 00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:48,500 And like you said, we have the answers for aliens for ghosts, 706 00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:51,100 you name it. The Bible talks about it. 707 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,600 A lot of the work that I've heard Drew graffia. 708 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,900 Do recently, it phenomenal, the breakdown, he's going through 709 00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:59,500 the text verbatim, letting it say what it means. 710 00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:01,800 Just painting the picture and connecting it. 711 00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:04,500 The Bible says, if it's self study to show ourselves. 712 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,900 Well approved with fear and trembling, we work out our 713 00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:11,600 Salvation, God's word covers everything it really really 714 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,500 does. My message is simple draw Close 715 00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:17,700 to the Lord as you possibly can. Seek him out. 716 00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:20,800 The answers are in God's word. God has compassion. 717 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,600 He's the father compassion and the God of All Comfort. 718 00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:26,800 He loves you. We're in crazy times in this 719 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,500 country and around the world, and we need Believers to rise 720 00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:33,000 up. We need Believers to reach the 721 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,300 world. The world is practically begging 722 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:38,800 us to tell them about Jesus. They're so lost their so hurt 723 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,500 their so mixed up on so many levels. 724 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,300 And if the church Church doesn't get on the field, get off the 725 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,900 sidelines to get on the field. We're going to be in a worse 726 00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:50,900 mess. Now is a great time to 727 00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:53,700 evangelize now, is a great time to do spiritual warfare. 728 00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:58,800 Now, is a great time to get your own act together, and I say this 729 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,200 boldly because I needed to get my act together and I know there 730 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,400 are people out there listening even now, one of the things I 731 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,600 deal with all the time is I meet people at conferences, they come 732 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,600 up to me and I can see the look in their eyes and they're like, 733 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,200 man, thank you for what you do and I couldn't do what you do. 734 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,000 And, you know, That there's nothing special about me man. 735 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,500 I barely graduated high school. I can't. 736 00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:20,300 I'm just like anybody else, okay. 737 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:25,300 The one thing that I was able to do is get strategy and get 738 00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:29,900 stronger, and overcome sins and have victory over things that 739 00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:33,100 had defeated. My me my whole life and anybody 740 00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:37,000 can have that Victory, okay? If you have a habitual sin or if 741 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000 you have a stronghold in your life, then that's a problem. 742 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,500 God didn't send his son to die on the cross so you could barely 743 00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:45,000 make it through. Life and struggle. 744 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,700 We should have powerful Victory, okay? 745 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:50,500 We can get set free of strongholds, and break curses, 746 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:54,000 and all that stuff. And I lived under a curse, I had 747 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,500 strongholds in my life, you know, I tell people that the 748 00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:59,000 devil used to kick my butt all day long. 749 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,500 I go to bed and I wake up in the morning and be like, okay, I'm 750 00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:02,800 ready to get my butt kicked again. 751 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:06,700 But when I learned my authority, when I learned the armor, when I 752 00:38:06,707 --> 00:38:11,100 learned strategy, spiritual warfare, all of these things, my 753 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:14,700 life changed. And instead of getting Bucket on 754 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:16,800 the time, I started doing some butt kicking. 755 00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:21,100 So with all that being said, thank you for being here, with 756 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,800 the millennial must. You see podcast, I hope you can 757 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,500 come back again in the future and we can just keep this 758 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,500 awesome conversation going. I would love to praise God. 759 00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:31,900 And yeah, I would love to ride. Thank you so much. 760 00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:34,600 I appreciate it. Well, that's the show everybody, 761 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,200 if you enjoyed this show, please share it with a friend. 762 00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:42,700 We thank you guys for continuing to listen and support God. 763 00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:44,900 Bless America. And good night.