Hello, folks, this is Princess, you are listening to the
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friends. You guys welcome back to the
show. I have excellent episode in
store for you tonight, I have Tom done here with me.
Tom is a movie producer, you speaks of conferences all over
the country. He's got a lot of great things
to say. We start off talking a little
bit about his testimony, how he came to the place, where he's at
in life, what led him down. This unique path.
Ultimately we hit climactic All Points like Supernatural Warfare
and Satanic ritual abuse. Something a lot of people in our
country have been affected by yet.
It goes under the radar. This stuff is happening right
under our nose and most of the time, we don't even acknowledge
its existence. This episode is a roller coaster
ride. I'm excited for you guys to take
this journey with me and Tom done.
This is going to be one to remember.
All right tonight, we got Tom on the show.
Tom, thanks for being here, Rod. Thank you for having me.
And I'm glad you got through a lot of people reach out and they
slip through the cracks. I have so many ways of people
that reach, you know, they reach out to me through email.
Facebook and messages and all that.
A lot of people get mad at me because I miss their message and
they're like, oh, that guy's you know, whatever.
I'm glad to be here, man. So Tom let me start off by
asking him. How did you end up going down
this unique path. Where did it all start for you?
For me, it started when I was real young through dreams
through being raised by my grandparents who my grandfather
was a he was an ordained minister and Taking the church,
my parents were divorced. So I kind of got bumped off to
my grandparents because my dad went to Texas and my mom went to
work. I was raised by them, and I just
kind of was riding shotgun and learned about the Lord and had a
fascination with Supernatural things.
And, you know, I have in my studio here, I have a picture up
behind me, a famous picture of a guardian angel, that's watching
over to Little Children walking across a bridge.
And when I was a little kid that picture kind of frightened me in
fascinated me at the same And my grandparents had it hanging up
upstairs outside of their bedroom.
And when I would walk by it, I would just kind of like look at
it real quick and step by it. You know, because I was like,
what's going on with this picture?
This is freaking me out. There's these two little
children, but there's this white being behind them that like this
thing with wings and I couldn't figure it out and my
grandparents notice, you know, my my reaction to the picture
one day. They're like you don't like this
picture. What's?
What's wrong, then? They explained it to me that,
you know, this is a this is an illustration of of a guardian
angel watching over the kids as they're, you know, just going
across this dangerous looking Bridge.
So I was introduced to the supernatural at a very young
age. I had a grandfather, my
grandmother loved the Lord, she taught me the 23rd.
Psalm for a school lesson back when they actually still had
Bible classes in school. I would sit in church mostly
board, but flip Through the Bible and look.
The pictures and my grandma had pictures of really cool
paintings like in her Bible so that you know that's what I
would do. My parents were divorced in a
way that I mean it was a blessing and a curse at the same
time because I mean, I was hurt by that, but at the same time,
it put me in a position to where I could learn about the Lord.
And I don't know if I would have had that upbringing had my
parents stayed together? I don't know, I don't know what
would happen. I remember having Supernatural
dreams. I remember.
God showing me Things like I'm not a big dream guy like every
dream mean something, but I remember specific ones like
being at my grandparents house and kind of being led out of the
house down by the barn. And there was a man in a suit
they're really sharp looking business.
Business type looking dude and he's like, hey, I want you to
come with me and I knew who he was.
I knew it was the devil and I was like, I'm not going with
you. I'm not going to go with you and
I didn't even really understand what that meant at the time and
the impact on it. I guess just by God's grace you
know being raised by my grandparents praying with him on
a regular basis and you know that was back in the day when
they would go do visitation and people would come over and they
would have prayer meetings. That would last for hours, I
would dislike go outside and play and come back and I'm like
holy moly, what's wrong with these guys?
They're still praying and they're just crying out to God
and really getting a hold of the throne of grace.
So that was you know that was my experience.
That's what I witnessed in my teenage years It's okay, this
plays a big part in it even though I had that Foundation, I
still had a choice to make I was at a Crossroads.
I was missing my dad and I came from a broken family and I was
hurt and I could have chose, you know, to go down a road where
you know a lot of people do they use painkillers.
So you know, sex drugs Rock and Roll.
But by the grace of God, the Lord puts somebody in my life in
school. And I started hanging out with
this guy and he had a church in a youth group.
So I started going to you Group with him and I was like, oh man
church is not so boring. This is kind of cool.
I didn't know, I didn't know. People could be so cool.
I started listening to Christian music and Christian music.
Really played just a very significant part in my life
because I'm again, I'm sitting here in my studio and I'm
looking at a wall where I have all these records hanging up and
all of the music. I used to listen to Christian
rock and Christian met on all the music was about spiritual
warfare. It got me reading the Bible and
it got me, you know, studying the Bible.
And A way that I never would, you know, and it was kind of
systemic because I was going through and picking out all the
verses about spiritual warfare. I was like, oh man, this is,
this is kind of cool. So so when I was in high school
we started a Ministry called the violent piece Ministries.
We were kind of like a game. You know, we walked around with
leather jackets and jean jackets and we love the Lord and you
know we weren't playing. We were innocent in our
thoughts. Very naive very zealous but we
didn't do everything, right? Because we Kids and we didn't
know. So, like, when's it start
talking about Satanism or something like that?
We would, you know, we'd be like, hey, this is our school,
you know, you're not, you're not welcome here, take a hike.
So it was that sort of thing. All of those things play a part
and God knew what he was doing and it's amazing.
All the elements, you know that hurt us and help us in our life,
my parents divorce and me, missing my dad devastated me and
it caused things in me like separation anxiety.
That when I got married at a young age, I was about 19 years
old. I didn't even know I had
separation anxiety, and I was fearful of being left because my
parents split up, but there are things that affect us.
The traumatize us, every one of us has those types of things
growing up. And, you know, think good things
to right out of high school, it was a little over a year I got
married because I believed it was better to marry than to burn
with passion. And I was burning with passion.
Yeah, many of us can relate to that.
That thing that I started in high school, we continued it.
When we got out of high school and we started a church,
Downtown Mansfield, and mind you.
I was an ordained, but I started the church and I ask other
people to come in and preach. It was out of an apartment.
Building an upper floor, apartment building is 164 and a
half West, First Street Mansfield Ohio and it was a
one-bedroom apartment, but on Sundays we turn our living room
into a sanctuary and people would come up.
People came from really sometimes all over Ohio.
Come to our little church speakers.
Would come in and share a. We would preach the gospel
again. Having no accountability and I
sought out. Accountability, there was fruit,
but there was, there was a situation kind of like Paul
described in Corinthians because I was kind of like a Lone Ranger
Christian. Where I begin to believe.
I wasn't part of the body of Christ because so many people
told me you're not part of the body of Christ, you don't
belong. So I began to believe that.
So I got an interest in I'm right about that time.
I'm talking about things with you Rod that I rarely talk
about. Yeah, I love hearing the
testimonies. So what happened next right
around that time, I got an interest in film, it really kind
of turned out to be a distraction, rather than a
blessing. And it almost became kind of
like an idol in my life and it really kind of led me down like
a liberal Road. You know, where I started
researching film, I started just having a fascination with film
and filmmaking. Makers and art, and all these
things. And I really got kind of liberal
just kind of justifying things for a while.
Long story short, I was married, 10 years.
I went through a divorce. That's a, that's a messy story.
I remarried. And I said, you know what,
whatever I do. I'm just going to go to church
and that's all I'm going to do. I'm not going to get involved in
Ministry anymore because I blame God, and I kind of said my
heart, you know what, I'm not gonna do this anymore because I
tried to do some stuff for God and God didn't have my back.
So, I'm just going to go to church and not do anything else.
Well, that didn't last long because I then found this guy by
the name of Russ dizdar and I began listening to his podcast
and I was like, oh my gosh, this guy is talking about what I used
to talk about and what I used to hear people like Bob Larson
talked about like 10 years ago. I haven't heard anybody talk
about this. I found out this guy is in Ohio.
Okay, I got to reach out to him so I reached out to him and I
told him, hey, I want to make a movie about the things you
talked about. About, they freak people out.
I had no interest rod and and helping anybody.
Well, I just wanted to make a film that would freak people out
because Hollywood's making millions of dollars about the
things that Russ dizdar talks about.
I'm like, this is better than Hollywood because this is the
real thing. All the stuff in Hollywood is
fake. I said, this is going to freak
people out and I was scared to make the film but I didn't care
my interest in just having the best film on this subject.
You know, was more, I reached out to Russ, he Okay, you want
to make a film? He's like here, take this take
this, you know, research this and then we'll talk about it.
Long story short, Russ dizdar took me under his wing.
He basically mentored me discipled.
Me, took me all around the world.
I went to Germany, I went to Scotland.
I went to Poland, I went to New York.
I went I went so many places with Russ and he said, I don't
know what it was but by you know, the grace of God.
So instead of making the film, I wanted to make, I ended up
becoming like a counselor and a Deliverance Minister I had no
plans. In doing any of this, by the
way, I just want to make a movie and that's what I did.
And I lived for it and I prayed, Lord, I want to do this, I want
to do this, and if you open the door, I'll do.
I'll give dedicate my life to this.
And I prayed and prayed and prayed for years, I honestly
prayed for years believing that any second, the door would open
and I will be able to do this full-time.
Finally, it did almost three years ago.
I lost track. Now, I'm doing this full time.
I will always want to make a movie.
Now I've made three movies and we do.
Of course, the through the black YouTube channel and we've got
hundreds of episodes and we talked about spiritual warfare
and stuff. So that is that's the story of
how I got to where I am. And it's all, you know, in
hindsight, I can see the hand of God just using the things of my
life. Good and bad to put me where I'm
at. And I was born to do what I'm
doing right now. There's a lot of flavor to
everything. You were just saying there, the
Lord Works all things together for the good of those who are
called according to his purpose. I know that the world, you know,
they want to harness us to the plow and make us produce and
have us not ask any questions, right?
Yeah. I agree.
Just be a good boy and go and be a consumer and it's awesome.
How when we just keep crying out to God and walking through the
Journey of this life that when we trust him he's going to bring
us into a place where we're able to do exactly what he designed
us to do it man. That's an amazing testimony.
And I know Drew graffia was on last and he had messaged me
after I release the episode him and his wife, listen to it.
And he's like, dude, this is the most personal interview I've
ever done in my life. I love being able to be a part
of that because you guys have been a blessing to me and I know
the audience, you know, working in your gift and just helping to
expose things that go under the radar.
Now, tell me a little bit about your show.
What you got going on and anything exciting.
That's on the horizon. I guess we're coming up on a
Four year anniversary, maybe in February for the through the
black YouTube channel. Okay.
In 2016, we release the film detestable which is a film that
exposes Satanic ritual abuse. Okay?
I made that movie and and that's a story in itself and I can tell
you about that. I mean, God opened the door for
that and I had no money to make a movie but I just I really felt
inspired by the Lord to make this movie and all the
everything happened. And you know, the Lord opened
the doors and Now, the movies actually on Amazon actually have
two movies on Amazon Prime. So we're able to use the enemy's
platform when we made the movie. We wanted to promote the movie,
you know, we went on all the podcast and all the shows that
we could and, you know, we just got all everybody who's a friend
of ours. Say, hey, can we have on?
Can we promote this queen promote this?
And then we kind of got to the end of that list.
It's like, okay, what do we do now?
Well, maybe now we do our own show Jared my co-host and I we
have a lot of conversations about deliverance and Virtual
Warfare and that sort of thing, we thought, well, these
conversations that we're having would be very beneficial to
other people out there. So like, why don't we just do
what we do, but share it with the world.
So that's kind of how the through the black Channel
started out. It's been a crazy ride.
I mean, I'll just say, I'll put it like this, you know, people
like our show just because we're really laid-back and we don't
take ourselves too seriously and we have fun.
But we also talk about a very serious subject but we're very
Transparent. We try to be very human and we
don't try to come across as holier than now.
I mean, I believe in Holiness and righteousness and living for
God and all that. But I'm also very transparent.
I'm honest. And I bear my scars because I
know the listeners are dealing with the same type of struggles
that I am. Its spiritual warfare and it's
the key. I think to the Christian Life,
it's what's missing in churches. This should be the training that
new converts get. You know, within the first
couple months of getting saved but it's not there and they
don't understand that. There's something else going on.
It's supernatural that you have an enemy that wants to destroy
your life and he wants to do anything.
He can to trip you up to try and destroy your ministry to try and
mess up your walk and tempt you and all that stuff.
And when you know your enemy, you you have a better chance of
overcoming and having Victory. I tell people this, so I
understood the concept of spiritual warfare when A
teenager, but I didn't have any training.
I didn't have any Mentor, I didn't have these strategy,
anything like that. So when I tote, what I took,
those courses that I told you about, by the way, I highly
recommend the courses by Russ dizdar.
I took this course called confronting the powers, they're
free. All this stuff is free on his
website. It's called Chowder, the
darkness dotnet. So I took that course, and I
took it because I wanted to do research and learn okay.
What I need to learn about, you know, this Object.
So I can make a movie on it. And what the weird thing to
happen was I got I began to get help.
I was like, whoa. Okay, you mean these things?
I've been struggling with, I can actually overcome these fears
that I've had since I was in second grade and my mom was
doing tarot cards in the kitchen.
And there was something that came into my room.
And I had a fear all the way into my 30s.
When I took that course that fear went away, This is what I
tell people that happen to me. I used to be afraid to get up in
the middle of the night, okay? In my own house, as a grown,
man, I learned my authority. I learned about the armor of God
and I learned, you know, just you know all this all the
spiritual warfare strategy and how to overcome and how to beat
it and all that stuff. So what I used to be afraid of.
Now my nightmares are afraid of me but not so much me, but the
spirit of God and me and I go after the darkness.
Now, instead of hiding from, I can relate to a little bit of
that there, I grew up in an old farmhouse.
It was kind of a creepy house. Who could always feel Think
they're so I can definitely relate to, you know, that
feeling of just fear of, I feel like a lot of the times people
come to the Lord in some devastating situation or they
grew up in the church but they don't really get the proper
training of where to go, you know, they just this whole book
is thrown out and it's sitting in their lap and, you know, they
may turn and end up on a genealogy, just flipping pages
and be like, well, this is kind of boring.
Oh, the new James Bond movies out, you know, in the church
kind of like wags, its head and wonders, why can't we Get more
men in the church. WIll some of these Supernatural
things that the Bible talks about.
It's so important that were able to discuss and go through that
stuff because the battles. Real, the very first episode, I
did here on the millennial Mustard Seed was with my pastor,
Randy, and we talked about supernatural Warfare.
The three of us were. Chopping it up and talking about
our experiences. And why it's so important to
realize the presence of this enemy that Wars against our
souls? There was a Sure.
And the bathroom and it was this old black and white picture of a
lady who had a bar soap, it was like an advertisement picture.
She was advertising this bar. So next to like an old clawfoot
bathtub and for some reason, my parents had this hanging up and
in the bathroom of the old farm house that I grew up in, and it
creeped me out because this picture, I just felt like the
hair stand up, on the back of my neck.
And at this time, I didn't grow up in the church.
I didn't really know what was going on, but I knew there was
something weird in. The house and this picture in
particular just really scared me.
There was a point in time where I honestly believe this thing
moved its head and just had like a demonic look in its eyes.
That was traumatizing to me it sounds like foolish in a sense
to the world. They're like man you were just
scared kid here parent or do you watch a scary movie or
something? But to me it rattled, my cage at
a very young age and then I battled with the fear of just
something. I couldn't really identify that
I knew hated me. If that makes sense.
Yeah, hear you talk about, okay? And just I can relate, you know,
I've had some dreams and things and I know the Lord has really
just given me peace over the years as I continue in the word.
But, you know, when we get sidetracked and we get caught up
in the passions of this life, the attacks come flooding in and
it's a quick reminder. And I need to take up the armor
that the helmet of salvation, the breastplate of
righteousness, the the sword of the spirit, you know, our
Shield, all these different things, God gives us, right?
Right. And then what are you working on
this? Going to help this younger
generation and some of the older listeners that I have here on
the podcast. I've made three films.
The first ones called detestable, the second one is
called, this is a war and the third one is called fire and
brimstone, okay. And the second one is just kind
of a profile of some different people that give their testimony
about spiritual warfare and it kind of all circles around and
kind of comes together. It's about 7 people.
And I Just kind of mash it all together.
The film I made after that was about the life of David Arthur,
David Arthur. Lived, you know, over 20 years
of his life as a woman, he was a transgender guy and he was on
his deathbed dying of symptoms from AIDS, and he was ready to
die. He finally got saved.
He's like okay, Lord, go ahead and take me and instead God
taking him, he got healed and he got up out.
He was just he was a dead man and he got up out of the bed and
It's his story, it's called fire and brimstone and it's a
powerful story, just about how he got recruited.
How he was abused as a child, and the doors were open in his
life, how he went down the road that he did and how he got
saved. So and then the warning for the
children, the sexualization of, you know, that this culture
wants to put in our children and just basically training kids
that there is no gender and that there is no, there's no such
things as The thing is boy and a girl, you know, and you could be
whatever you want or whatever you think you are, just the
aggressive attack on the children.
So and it kind of exposes that that's only available on DVD by
the way. Because we can't really put it
up anywhere because it'll get censored or taking down
everything that we do. I really believe is important.
You know, the the black channel has hundreds of archives.
Now you can kind of just go through their pick a subject
almost and learn about something.
Spiritual warfare. We've covered it from
Deliverance to the new age, to haunted houses, to training, and
spiritual warfare, just, all of those.
All of those things, you know, you mentioned about.
What am I, what am I doing right now?
Actually, on our YouTube channel?
There's a video that's dropping today.
That is a little 20-minute production.
And what I did is I kind of compiled all the testimonies
that I could find of Satanic ritual abuse and I put them
together in a way, that's really.
Never been done before just kind of like a collage just
hard-hitting. Testimony after hard-hitting
testimony of these people on their just telling what?
They know what they saw what they experience of satanic Cults
operating. You know.
And they're just talking from a place of experience.
So I'm excited about that because we're trying to make
videos that are going to Red Pill people on this issue.
I don't feel like we're paranoid about this.
This issue we're just very aware of this issue.
Okay, I always talk about Russ. Okay, he's a good friend of
mine. He's a good teacher, he's really
good at what he does. There's a lot of other books out
there besides him. So I just want to mention.
There's a lot of other great resources, but I feel like he's
the best of the best because he's learned the hard way.
He's probably number one on this planet, the person that's dealt
with this stuff and the person that's going after it and in the
knowledge that he has about it and him helping the survivors
and the victims. I've never seen anything like
it. When you take one of his courses
and then you watch the news, you don't see it the same way that
you used to. You see, a shooter on the news.
Okay. If you remember this took place,
I don't know how many years ago, probably close to 10 years ago
now. Where there was a guy that was
going in, he shot up a Navy shipyard that was over on the
east coast somewhere. And he wrote on his, on the
stock of his rifle. This is my e.l.f weapon e.l.f
means extremely low-frequency. There's more to that story,
there's more to this this shoe. Other stories.
Okay, the guy in Colorado. You know, you look at these
pictures and you can see in their eyes.
Something is something else is going on.
We're not saying every single person is programmed, look at
Sirhan Sirhan, the guy that killed Robert Kennedy.
He came out and said, yeah, he's been mind-controlled.
So it's connected to Ritual abuse.
It's connected to government mind control, that sort of
thing, all that stuff is connected, and it's what we
expose. We are overwhelmed with people
reaching out to us, trying to get help.
Trying to get set free Deliverance just anything that
they can get. We have so many things.
So many irons in the fire. I want to mention our news
website. It's called real dark news and
basically, it's just a News website, and I have a few
writers that write on there and they're constantly releasing
stories about just this crazy, dark news that happens every
day. That's gets buried in
newspapers. It's happening all over the
country. And it's kind of a downer but,
you know, we want to expose the darkness, we know that we have
the light of the world, Jesus Christ, okay?
He's the resurrection and the life, anybody who believes in
him shall live, we're trying to shine a light in the darkness.
So we're constantly exposing just any kind of story, whether
it's a serial killer, it's just a lot of craziness.
One of the trends we've been seeing in the last couple months
is parents killing their children, mothers killing their
children. You know, and it just kind of
comes in waves. Real dark news.com is the
website. You can kind of go on there and
just look. And there's over a thousand
stories on their, of archives of this type of stuff, that type of
news, but a Christian worldview, you know, absolutely.
Jesus Christ, is the answer, he's the Savior.
He's the hero of humanity, you know, there's a lot of people
out there presenting the darkness.
We're presenting it from a Biblical standpoint.
Yeah, my grandfather. He passed away a few years ago
but he used to say, you know, you got to study Be your enemy
to know how he like meanders through and like the tricks.
He's going to pull, you know, he would always kind of remind me
because I've never been a fan of like, horror movies or anything
like that. I even remember when I was like,
12, the neighbors had a. But, you know, a bunch of kids
are hanging out there on the porch and the kid comes to the
door who lived there with the Ouija board.
He's like, come on, we're all going to play and something
inside of me, just like struck like I'm like, absolutely not
and I hightailed it home. Like I knew there was something
wrong. With that even before I knew,
you know, a Biblical perspective if you will but my grandfather's
always say, you know, you got to be aware of the tactics of the
enemy. Let me ask you this real quick.
Do you think just through like movies or like Disney or the
news today that there's some strongholds that are able to
attach onto people that are unaware of this systematic
desensitization that the enemy is using through all these
social Outlets? What are your thoughts?
Oh yeah, yeah, I absolutely believe it did.
It really depends. Okay.
I believe a Christian has more protection than anybody else.
Okay. So agree.
I can go and I can watch a TV show or a movie or something
that a horror movie or something like that fascination with the
supernatural. So I used to love that stuff,
but the closer I get to the Lord, when I watch something, it
Wars against my spirit, you know what I'm saying?
And once in a great while I will watch something for
presuppositional analysis, okay? So I'm doing Research, but I'm
very careful about what I do. But even as a Christian, I can
feel the conflict and it can be in books, it can be on a
website, you can be a media, it can it can be anywhere.
And the further away from you are from the Lord, the less
you're going to notice that a lot of times, you know, we'll go
we can go into places, you know, that are dark, dark parts of the
city spiritually dark, and people will know, they'll
recognize you before you recognize them, because they're
cloaked, we're not we're out in the open, right?
The spirit of God. It in me, irritates the Demonic
in them that they may not be possessed, but they might have
some kind of stronghold or oppression on them because I
don't think every single person is possessed.
But yeah, I think those things can have an effect.
And the more, the more you get into God's word, the more you're
praying, the more you're praising, God, and worshiping
him to less. You're going to want to do with
that stuff. Okay, the enemies always
knocking, right? And he's always trying to, to
open the door. And every I think everybody has
Something they like, they probably shouldn't, you know
what I mean? And yeah, I have, you know, I
have there's a lot of music. I liked, I probably shouldn't
like it, but I'm not going to allow it to be king of my heart.
A lot of these bands are involved in the occult and stuff
like that. And it used to be kind of, you
know, just heavy metal music. But then you know, nowadays,
it's all music. It's all pop music hip-hop.
They're involved in the occult and involved in all kinds of
stuff. It was more blatant, you know,
in metal music, back in the 70s and 80s.
Now it's blatant everywhere and This kind of like all it's, you
know, it's a free-for-all. So those things definitely have
an effect, the closer you are to the Lord, the sharper you are
and discernment the quicker. You're going to notice it music.
Especially I could get I know three people right now that were
unwilling to put their music life under the lordship of
Christ and they basically worshipped music and they
couldn't get away from it, rock and roll, right?
Three people, I know that turned their back on God to of the
Guys, especially are just so far gone now and it's all because
they love that music so much. They couldn't let go of it.
You know. It just had a grip on their
heart and the message in the music is Antichrist.
Yeah. We see a lot of that.
I mean, I feel like the days were living in, especially in to
go beyond the borders of just the music realm.
It's almost like the line is being drawn in the sand.
I see the pillars being set for To show up just like it said to.
And I'm not one of those guys who's like, oh, I think we're
right here right now. But even people that are
unbelievers in my life and my work place and my personal life,
you know, places I go to were saying something's wrong here,
this ain't right, or there's tension in the air, it's not
like it will, I keep hearing. Well, it's not like, it was five
years ago, even 10 years ago, 20 years ago to agitation, is just
there. And a lot of people that are
serving, the god of their belly, where the god of they're all
Idol. You are are blindsided by it,
but you have a lot of people that are in this like, Middle
Ground, you know that are just doing their rituals going
through life. They're going to work coming
home, eating dinner, you know, they may have a little bit of
entertainment with their movie thing or their Hobby and then
they just reset do it all over again and they get caught in
that Trend. Those people are the ones that
I've gotten a huge influx of, hey, man.
I know I used to call you really Fringe and a little bit weird.
A few years ago, but I think you're on to something.
No. Because the content here on the
podcast, we cover a Supernatural stuff Angels, just the
conception real quick, Tom. You think most people when they
think of an Angel, they think of the fat little baby with wings
feeding people grapes, you know? I heard somebody say that this
morning and yeah, you know, I don't know what they think, but
I don't think they have a Biblical concept of.
No, I mean, look at cherubs or seraphim.
I mean, we're talking about Fierce angels, with multiple
heads burnished feet, like, hopes of a bowl, you know,
multiple wings like eyes within and about.
If you read about the room, the Our own Guardian Revelation.
I mean this is cool stuff forward shaken.
When they met them they were scared to death.
Oh, I can't I can't exactly remember the name of it but I
heard an interview with this guy and I have it like on my by list
is called the mighty angels of the Bible or the mighty angels
of Revelation. This guy wrote a whole book on
it, it was so fascinating, just he really went into detail.
Using biblical resources, just talking about angels.
You know the Apostle Paul talks about the Thrones dominions, you
know, principalities powers. I think a couple hundred times
it mentions the word Angel, which and the Hebrew is malach,
and in the Greek is Angelo's, and it literally means messenger
not of This World In His Scriptures, it talks about their
status being to serve those, who will inherit eternity.
You know, we're not talking about some soft small winged
fat, little baby here. And I think that as people
understand in the here, podcast like this, I hear about what
you're doing guys like l.a. Marzulli.
Other guys that are just being bold and just saying this is
what the text says. It means what it says and says
what it means. Because the veils thinning, you
have an influx of people in today's day and age that are
having experiences. Now, there's a lot of
conversations I've had all fair where people are telling me
about supernatural things that they've been experiencing and
we're talking about people who you know live the whole life
like never dealing with anything but within the last five years
there like this really Disturbed me and I don't fight I don't
feel like there's anybody else I have to talk about it with I've
even had the response of well I can't tell it to my pastor in
the church. Search, you know, they're rigid.
Mander, you know, same message. It's like clockwork.
You can go with this time of the year.
You own this know, what you're going to hear.
They're just seeing how the Lord worked mice were together.
We all have a story Tom. Each one of us has a unique
testimony in a story and as people are flooding in and
going, hey, you know, I had this weird experience or demonic
experience or dream or I seen something in the sky move a 90
degree at a speed, it shouldn't Knowing that the Bible is going
to be there. At the end of the day we can go
and ask questions about the Bible.
We can study it and show ourselves well approved and
enter in and it's not going to like vanish and disappear.
I feel like some of the big churches out here, preach
prosperity and there's a huge body of people who've had weird
experiences and they don't know where to go.
They don't know what to do with it.
But here is the answer, the living breathing word of God.
With some of the things that you were saying.
It just makes me think of something that we Always say the
church should be on The Cutting Edge and we're not were like 30
years behind churches are afraid of these issues when people come
to pastors with the things, like what you were saying this.
This really, it makes me angry to say this and this is why I do
what I do and we try, we offer any training that we can, but
pastors will tell people sometimes two things.
This is what we hear all the time, one you need a
psychiatrist or psychologist. Just or two, you need to go see
a Catholic priest and I want to scream, I want to scream, I'm
like you a Christian Evangelical, Pastor are sending
somebody to the Catholic church or to a psychiatrist because you
don't have the answers, we have God's word.
We have this amazing truth from another dimension.
There's no other book like it. Everything in there that we need
to know is covered in God's word.
It just it frustrates me because I don't I'm not on my high
horse. I don't think I'm better than
these pastors, but I am frustrated with them because
Christian pastors should not be afraid of this, and they should
not be sending people to see a psychologist or to a Catholic
priest. We should be cutting edge.
We should be ready to go. We have the answers for ghost,
we have the answers for new age, for aliens, for all these
things. We should know, the answers,
exactly. How counter, or how to respond
and how to minister, and do a Jetix with these issues.
So yeah I mean because people are out there and they want
answers and if the church doesn't give them an answer then
they are going to go somewhere else.
They are going to go to the new age, they are going to go you
know to the occult or whatever. And that's unnecessary, we have
the answers. God's word has the answers.
Absolutely. I couldn't have said it better
myself. My generation.
They're flocking to any and everything that even looks like
it. It can to give them an answer.
And like you said, we have the answers for aliens for ghosts,
you name it. The Bible talks about it.
A lot of the work that I've heard Drew graffia.
Do recently, it phenomenal, the breakdown, he's going through
the text verbatim, letting it say what it means.
Just painting the picture and connecting it.
The Bible says, if it's self study to show ourselves.
Well approved with fear and trembling, we work out our
Salvation, God's word covers everything it really really
does. My message is simple draw Close
to the Lord as you possibly can. Seek him out.
The answers are in God's word. God has compassion.
He's the father compassion and the God of All Comfort.
He loves you. We're in crazy times in this
country and around the world, and we need Believers to rise
up. We need Believers to reach the
world. The world is practically begging
us to tell them about Jesus. They're so lost their so hurt
their so mixed up on so many levels.
And if the church Church doesn't get on the field, get off the
sidelines to get on the field. We're going to be in a worse
mess. Now is a great time to
evangelize now, is a great time to do spiritual warfare.
Now, is a great time to get your own act together, and I say this
boldly because I needed to get my act together and I know there
are people out there listening even now, one of the things I
deal with all the time is I meet people at conferences, they come
up to me and I can see the look in their eyes and they're like,
man, thank you for what you do and I couldn't do what you do.
And, you know, That there's nothing special about me man.
I barely graduated high school. I can't.
I'm just like anybody else, okay.
The one thing that I was able to do is get strategy and get
stronger, and overcome sins and have victory over things that
had defeated. My me my whole life and anybody
can have that Victory, okay? If you have a habitual sin or if
you have a stronghold in your life, then that's a problem.
God didn't send his son to die on the cross so you could barely
make it through. Life and struggle.
We should have powerful Victory, okay?
We can get set free of strongholds, and break curses,
and all that stuff. And I lived under a curse, I had
strongholds in my life, you know, I tell people that the
devil used to kick my butt all day long.
I go to bed and I wake up in the morning and be like, okay, I'm
ready to get my butt kicked again.
But when I learned my authority, when I learned the armor, when I
learned strategy, spiritual warfare, all of these things, my
life changed. And instead of getting Bucket on
the time, I started doing some butt kicking.
So with all that being said, thank you for being here, with
the millennial must. You see podcast, I hope you can
come back again in the future and we can just keep this
awesome conversation going. I would love to praise God.
And yeah, I would love to ride. Thank you so much.
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