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Welcome back to the show. 
I'm so happy that you guys are 

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here with me. 
Again for another episode 

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honored to have been on the 
William Ramsay's show, as he is 

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on mine, he released the 
episode. 

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We've recorded on Friday, the 
9th on his show, and I am here 

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on the 11th, releasing it for 
you guys and it's, it's an 

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amazing episode. 
I know, I say that every time 

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but it amongst William Ramsay 
has an attorney author and 

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researcher. 
You know, you graduated from the

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University of California, 
Berkeley has a degree in 

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history. 
He's also on the State Bar of 

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California. 
Yes JD he's written a number of 

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books and has a really 
successful podcast. 

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Been a part of some of the 
stranger things when it comes to

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Murder Mysteries and dealing 
with the occult and man just 

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diving into The smiley face 
Killers. 

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A lot of stuff that goes under 
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He's on the front lines of many 
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This is an awesome show. 
We both kind of chop it up and 

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enjoy each other's company. 
To say the least how he delivers

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his information, the level 
research he's put in his 

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academic, this is really great 
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I'm not going to waste any more 
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Let's get into this episode. 
You guys are going to love it. 

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Let's go. 
A pleasure to be able to speak 

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with you man. 
Thank you so much for agreeing 

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to talk. 
Thank you, thanks for the 

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invite. 
Glad to be here. 

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I really like your approach and 
I think you're covering a wide 

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spectrum of topics and is in my 
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tackle some of these popular 
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there's a broad spectrum of 
people that are getting lost in 

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bad information. 
Really, at the end of the day I 

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just asked a lot of questions. 
Is on the learner. 

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And to I'm to I'm enamored with 
your approach, man, and I feel 

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like there's a lot I can learn 
from you. 

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I wanted to, you know, just ask 
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about like how you came to be 
where you are today, like a 

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little bit of what your journey 
look like and advice for. 

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You know, a younger guy who is 
trying to Wade through a million

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messages and million signals 
that are causing a lot of 

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confusion and Chaos in the days 
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That's well said, I mean these 
are the days of guy was actually

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thinking that writing a paper 
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yesterday. 
Definitely in the age of chaos 

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and confusion. 
My path was kind of like, I was 

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not my, neither of my parents 
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the route of trying to kind of 
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I knew, I didn't know very much,
so I really tried to work on my 

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academics was very fortunate to 
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school in DC. 
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the inside I'd really. 
Very much a provincial and very 

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naive. 
And so how it really works very 

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corrupt. 
A lot of inside dealing a lot of

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murder frankly. 
So it really changed, kind of my

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view. 
I got done with that passed. 

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The bar 98, really lost 
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the corporate media is 
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So that was kind of a good thing
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age, you know, before I was 30 
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on my own Annalise, on my own. 
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who are doing that as well. 
So, I was really kind of reading

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stuff earlier, some guys are 
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DC, I read this guy, Mike Rivero
who was also kind of involved in

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something. 
I was he wasn't involved, gives 

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an analyzer of the death of 
Ben's Foster, which I was 

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literally involved with, but so 
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So I actually followed that guy 
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quarter-century. 
Now, I also used to read God by 

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the name of Justin, raimondo. 
His son, unfortunately, passed 

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away that he wrote for Ty 
war.com which is still around 

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and he wrote great articles and 
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I was there and then 9/11 
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that I should I should have been
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but I was I was dumb and naive. 
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I realized that story was bogus 
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me. 
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actually kind of scary and so I 
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9/11 research and was always 
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really just I still don't trust 
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I'm kind of curious what's on 
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vicious propaganda as vicious as
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meant to confuse. 
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psychological conditioning that 
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you confused and actually give 
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That's the subtext. 
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but they really put you in a 
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So, I actually without really 
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more active, purveyor of 
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Like what do Find out next you 
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So I was reading often and so 
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started the numerology. 
I never thought I'd be a book 

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writer my law career. 
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I don't really like lawyers and 
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for it. 
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after those are like gestational
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out and then I had enough 
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Once I was researching to write 
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self-publish 2010 and it was And
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A lot of these Publishers are 
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I actually trust somebody who 
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Monte with me more than some of 
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ones, like the Christian friends
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down that all history. 
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Christian to me, it's just like 
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another scoundrel. 
So anyway, 2010 first book, 2012

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second book, 2014 third book. 
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documentary about Small effects 
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So I was really those are all 
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with people, not really doing 
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Now we're started working for 
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I was actually doing interviews 
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2013. 
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naturally into me kind of 
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kind of fun because I actually 
got to reach out and send emails

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and talk to people that I admire
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guy on your show and I, you 
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I still like it as person. 
He's a great person. 

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I mean I really mean that like I
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for that long if I thought he 
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don't like the partisanship to 
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If I have somebody doesn't 
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Doesn't mean I'm against your 
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Like people? 
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like they, I'm immediately a 
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that. 
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That's not even close to the 
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I believe in the effective 
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people don't and they don't in 
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It's really sad like we're in 
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So anyways, 2017 first 
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So I five documentaries on Vimeo
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People don't want to talk about.
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actual two documentaries. 
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I'm not trained in hertz or 
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that. 
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embarrassing documentaries and 
2021 was profit of the old, the 

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other was a cold Hollywood. 
I kind of re-up the cold 

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Hollywood have made a cold 
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Then I may have those two 
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killers and then the visual kind
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prophet of evil. 
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Children of the Beast. 
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I also have a smaller book 
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visual study know, just kind of 
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pearly. 
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visual or Learners. 
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thought that was kind of an 
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I should really update that if I
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So it's been an interesting 
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I think I really was. 
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Starting kind of my inquiry into
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I did wasn't very popular. 
It was I was kind of like a 

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leper or something like it's not
it's not I've decent career and 

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academic credentials but it's 
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wasn't really a acceptable kind 
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Now, 2022 is a people, really 
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like to say that. 
You're not like, that's the most

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common religion. 
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Christianity. 
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look at that, and look at the 
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need to have actions and 
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So somebody's gonna coat this. 
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decisions and somebody's a 
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Christian. 
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Long Haul journey and I think 
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I would not really be doing what
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If I didn't have like Decades of
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of the corporate media, like 
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aren't you? 
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though a lot of the journalists 
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journalist. 
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Times Washington compost, these 
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Type things that people don't 
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look at them as independent but 
a lot of those guys are going to

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cocktail parties or they've been
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that's I was actually very calm,
much more common in d.c. at that

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time that I knew 95 to 98. 
So there were secret parties and

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strange kind of events. 
What was The first thing that 

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happened when you were in DC, 
that kind of like flip that 

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switch and open your eyes where 
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Hold on. 
Something's wrong here, it's a 

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good question. 
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thought like, hey, this is a 
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Had all the learning that I got 
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high school. 
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known about JFK or things like 
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vicious the fights were there. 
I mean, they really do kill 

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people. 
There's a lot of people who died

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there mysteriously. 
Vince Foster was just one of 

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many people who got Murdered or 
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But I think the first thing that
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like, my wife worked for a 
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So, I was around a lot of those 
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There was one office building. 

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That there were, I mean, there 
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you weren't supposed to send 
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And they actually, I was there. 
Helping my wife there. 

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Hey, William. 
Go give this to him. 

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I was like, okay, I just walked 
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This is for Bob and I left and 
but I didn't understand that the

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guy was like a Serial abuser, 
like an octopus women at like, 

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you know, really kind of in the 
most being away, like, really 

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bad guy and then he ended up 
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I forgot his name is out of 
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try to french kiss him like 
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So and so, there were less. 
So I was like, oh wow, so it's 

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just some sketchy things here. 
There was another one. 

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I was not a rich kid. 
I came from, you know, I didn't 

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I came from a middle-class 
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maybe upper middle class but I 
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work during law school. 
I was working at this one. 

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Mexican restaurant that was on 
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It was, I can't remember the 
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you know, I was served, I would 
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that. 
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Florida came in and he ordered 
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lunch and his nose was sweat 
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coming out of his nose and I was
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like I'm used to Seeing is 
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bench and he was a congressman 
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Congressman Joe Blow, I forgot 
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pictures that Congressman all 
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he is. 
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I sure like then they must just 
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back to the city and dry him 
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I'm back here and just get 
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It was incredible. 
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news guys that you see on TV or 
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see them in more, you know, of 
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They're not in this kind of car.
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kind of people in a much more 
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sometimes it really isn't pretty
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just I didn't work really on the
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his intern for his lawyer, for a
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Foster case. 
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just didn't, they didn't want to
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interested in their careers or 
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the truth about anything. 
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of American Psycho telling 
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people and everybody goes Bob, 
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Have a drink, you know, and he's
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the end came out. 
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mean it's almost kind of like 
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conversations. 
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least when I was there about, 
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bank accounts, Luxembourg bank 
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things happening all the time or
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So and be some people got busted
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But I would say it'd be a mix of
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inside the Beltway. 
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I knew within the first year I 
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hell out of DC. 
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It's very gets very dark, very 
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blackmail and a lot of people 
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charts. 
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about everybody and Yeah, that's
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like the image that's projected 
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You know, DC White clean, 
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and you know I think about my 
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for like 10, 11 years and the 
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talks about have like having 
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you know, the city would be 
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and it's, she's like, never 
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interesting. 
It's your hear your side of it, 

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like you. 
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inside. 
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yeah the remember like I was 
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I will have a kind of sounded 
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but I didn't know the internal 
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stuff works. 
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issues a real issue. 
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JFK, you don't talk about that 
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And I had conversations are very
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I was like, the budding 
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I don't know that. 
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that that stories bologna, but I
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like there's no way that our Lee
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it. 
There were multiple Shooters and

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I would talk to a guy. 
I literally remember talking to 

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guy who's looking at me like 
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He's so he knew exactly what had

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He knew what parts of my story 

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were true and which were fake or
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Right. 
So they new people new people on

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people who did it. 
I think the real world word got 

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around like this is what we did 
to JFK. 

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He got out of line, he really 
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A lot of powerful people, you 
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anniversary of 9/11 come up here
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lot of I'm since that happened. 
I remember exactly where I was, 

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when 9/11 happened. 
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Philadelphia area and 
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was in school and I'll never 
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big heavy tube TVs and one was 
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classroom and I was in history 
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favorite classes and the teacher
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those are knock on the door and 
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the energy in the room just 
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We could all tell by his 
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face, something. 
Saying, something's not right? 

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And he walks over, I'll never 
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He flips on the TV and the whole
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Their silent for 15-20 minutes. 
Yeah, I mean there's images that

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are burnt and most all of our 
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But I knew there was a shift 
even as a young kid, I mean, I'm

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in Jesus. 
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going into Middle School 
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that. 
I'll just never forget the 

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feeling I had. 
Do you remember where you were? 

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Absolutely what you were doing 
when the towers got hit? 

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Can you share that with? 
I was at home, I mean, it was 

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the morning, so I was on the 
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sitting down on, like my futon 
with why future wife, just said 

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it actually, we were married now
and take it back, just sitting 

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there watching and I actually 
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did not. 
I believe they fell down. 

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So I was watching it and they 
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I just was like my mind cannot 
register. 

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I could not register that back 
but I was definitely a True 

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Believer. 
My wife reminds me of that all 

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the time. 
I really felt for the whole 

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story Hook Line and Sinker it 
took me a bit to kind of 

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realize. 
There was a lot of problems 

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there, but yeah, no, I 
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where I was. 
I've heard you do episodes, so 

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with other people covering a lot
of these details about 9/11, you

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know, I'm going to the whole 
thing. 

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Here, I know definitely 
recommending my audience to come

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over and check out those 
episodes with you. 

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And your audience is already be 
aware of it but there's so many 

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things that lineup and this is 
only a couple of years ago, 

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William that I became aware of. 
The depth of things that just 

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kind of prove, there's so much 
more going on here and then 

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seeing there's not that really 
healthy information. 

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Your who do you go to with his 
kind of questions and when you, 

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when you're thinking that like 
what's a solid platform where 

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you can go and ask good 
questions, without some weird, a

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cultic ulterior motive in mind 
that they've really want to suck

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you in. 
And it's like, hold on. 

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I just want to have a good 
conversation and get good 

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information on it, so I don't 
know. 

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It's really hard like it's kind 
of you when You're kind of going

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after the truth. 
It's kind of a lonely process. 

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You come to trust certain, 
people were trying to tell you 

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the truth. 
Not everybody knows all the 

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details, but there was a couple 
people like, I like Jones from 

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Utah. 
I thought he was kind of being 

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honest and there was another 
Theologian. 

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It was Edward Griffin, I think 
it was was his last name. 

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He wrote a lot of books on 9/11.
There's some good ones out 

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there. 
I read I had a guest on my show.

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Black 911, I think he was doing 
work and there was people who 

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went into this, Pacific parts of
it, some people focused on the 

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problems with the Pentagon, some
people focused on, 93 flight, 93

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building. 7, Building 7 is 
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destroying the cold, full cover 
story because there's no way 

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these guys accounted for 
building 7, it doesn't fit into 

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the narrative and all but it's 
not easy and I think a lot of 

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those introductory groups were 
probably set up. 

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Either set up to be infiltrated 
or infiltrated so that the 

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effectivity or anything 
productive coming from them 

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systemically productive made 
sure that that would never 

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happen. 
Are you aware of like ever being

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Shadow band? 
Or have you ever had any issues 

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with talking about that top? 
Could anybody was above? 

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I was banned from Above Top 
Secret in, like, 10 minutes like

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it's gone. 
I don't know if I've been Shadow

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band and some places, I 
definitely don't trust anything.

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Attack. 
I think Google's an evil 

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Corporation. 
I think. 

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Mark junk Mark Zuckerberg is 
evil and I don't say that 

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lightly. 
I think from their actions, he 

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paid 400 million dollars into 
like some slush fund. 

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Have this outcome, which is 
Biden's Like A Nazi fascist, 

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like a literal Nazi fascist nazi
fascist imagery and they get 

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away with it because they're 
from the left, like the left can

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never be fascist what a joke. 
So I think that these guys have 

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really reshaped outcomes. 
I think that Trump did himself 

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wrong because of his kind of Her
personality and actually thought

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he was President, he was kind of
like JFK like I think I'm 

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president, I'm going to try to 
make decisions that are best for

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everybody and so they screwed 
him and I chose how much power 

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the tech. 
Companies up, the Reliance upon 

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the technology companies, Just 
turn the country into kind of 

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like a dystopia. 
My opinion, kind of like 

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rollerball where they could see 
huge combination of fashion. 

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Like interrelated fascist power.
And I mean, real fascist, not 

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the kind of nonsense that the 
anti-fascist group and Tifa 

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talks about which they have that
language drift, which is also 

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very dangerous to their left is 
very comfortable with the 

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language drift and I have 
problems the right to I can. 

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Well I come out of the right 
like I came out of Republicans 

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so I'm not a robot. 
I'm not a registered. 

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Yeah, I can push it to be 
accountable. 

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Yeah, there should be 
accountability on both sides. 

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You know, it reminds me of, you 
know, sometimes Jefferson 

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Cliffs. 
I was reading recently and it's 

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I believe there's a big 
difference between knowledge and

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wisdom. 
Personally, I think wisdom comes

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from the fear of fear of God, 
being mindful of how we're 

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operating what the consistency 
of our life looks like, right? 

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And people are watching these, 
we can say, whatever we want. 

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William to people, going to look
at the Rhythm. 

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Some of our life, right? 
And that's going to speak way 

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louder than anything else. 
And When we literally see a 

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million messages in a million 
signals that are causing all 

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kinds of waves of issues, within
the Battlefield of the Mind here

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in this country, all over the 
world. 

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But it's like, where do we draw 
the line? 

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And actually like introduce some
humbleness and not choose one 

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side or the other, but find that
middle ground is a hey I'm 

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inquiring you like I don't 
really know anything like I'm 

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here to I'm trying to learn, I 
would like to observe, right? 

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I'd like to challenge. 
And be a healthy skeptic. 

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Not the kind of stepping just 
trying to prove anything wrong, 

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but like, let's prove this, 
right? 

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And I think that my generation 
particularly the millennial 

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generation. 
We see the Techno pratik 

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membrane. 
The brain is just so sucked down

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in engulfed into consumerism. 
What do I look like? 

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How am I perceived and people 
really forgetting the generation

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before us, my parents 
generation? 

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I mean, calloused hands. 
Right? 

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I just did a post recently where
I'm like, hey, shout out to all 

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the people with countless hands,
you know? 

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This is nothing. 
Some people that that use the 

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muscle on top here to make their
income or anything but it's just

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recognizing that's that's a 
shortened window. 

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You know, I'm a factory worker. 
So I I've been at a large 

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company for about nine years and
you know, we get raw materials 

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and literally dealing with 
engineer's, they have these 

449
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,100
ideas and they bring us 
everything and we got to make 

450
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:10,100
that happen for him, right? 
And that's a Dying. 

451
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:12,500
Breed ma'am. 
It's hard to get good people 

452
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,000
into the workforce right now. 
What I wanted to ask you is what

453
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,500
was your biggest Influence 
during you were talking earlier 

454
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,200
about. 
I like yelling at the TV. 

455
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,700
I'm so frustrated. 
I'm witnessing all of these 

456
00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:29,800
things going on around me and 
you're expressing, you're upset,

457
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,800
right? 
Did you have an influencer was 

458
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,900
there? 
Like how did you handle that? 

459
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,400
I don't know. 
I know nothing personal. 

460
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:40,000
It was just going through and 
really sifting. 

461
00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:42,100
Yeah, it was like the threshing 
floor, you know. 

462
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:46,100
Like you grow up the seed and 
the chaff chaff gets blowing. 

463
00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:48,700
There's a lot of trap out there.
There's a lot As you are for 

464
00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:51,200
people who are very deceptive. 
There's a lot of cultists 

465
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,900
floating around to who don't 
mind, deceiving people or 

466
00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:57,900
guiding people down the wrong 
path. 

467
00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:02,000
Way there are some of these 
Christians, the televangelists 

468
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,800
like types, I think a lot of 
there's a lot of problems there,

469
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,400
some of these the dominions are 
really in it for the money in my

470
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,100
mind. 
Because if they really were 

471
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:16,500
telling the truth, they would 
focus on a lot of problems. 

472
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,700
Vaccines corruption, you almost 
never hear these Christians and 

473
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,400
power today in the United 
States. 

474
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,500
Complain about all the 
corruption. 

475
00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:28,300
I don't, maybe I'm not paying 
attention, but I don't know 

476
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:32,000
because it's super corrupt or 
most corrupt. 

477
00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:38,800
But I can't really laid. 
I can't really lay like what I 

478
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,400
did on anything. 
I mean I read I look through all

479
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,400
of Bill Cooper stuff, you know? 
So he's one of the original 

480
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:51,800
alternative kind of people 
looking at things and I don't 

481
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,400
like the word people have 
labeled me as a conspiracy 

482
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,900
theorist or a conspiracist or 
I'm in the conspiracy community 

483
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,900
and I reject that term, I would 
say I'm in the secret agenda. 

484
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,500
Like what is this agenda? 
That somebody else has planned 

485
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:09,200
for me that I don't know, 
because there's a lot of them, 

486
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,400
there's a corporate Financial 
agenda, there's a cultural 

487
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,500
agenda, there's an international
globalist agenda, there are 

488
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,500
academic. 
Agendas that really aren't 

489
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,000
addressing. 
So those are the things I was 

490
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,400
really looking into but so Bill 
Cooper, I think his work. 

491
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,000
I mean he rejected kind of the 
UFO stuff that he got into, but 

492
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,500
I think that he was really 
trying and I think that he He 

493
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:37,700
and Dave McGowan comes to mind 
who's if I was fortunate they 

494
00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:41,000
were really the two people who 
keyed into 9/11 the same day, so

495
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,300
it was really for me, it was 
Bill Cooper and de Miguel. 

496
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,700
I was fortunate to know. 
Dave McGowan, I was on a show 

497
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:48,300
with him account. 
I went to his book signing of 

498
00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:52,900
the soup in La, when he 
published weird scenes, which is

499
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:54,600
very important. 
All his books are influential 

500
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:56,700
program to kill, still bouncing 
around. 

501
00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:00,700
People are still going back to 
look at that as something about 

502
00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:04,800
the whole serial killer 
phenomena States. but he was 

503
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,900
really one of the greats and so 
I would say Cooper. 

504
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,300
I mean Cooper has a lot of You 
know, a lot of stuff and McGowan

505
00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:15,400
was an atheist. 
I think I'm not gonna do this, 

506
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:21,000
so I have different things but I
think he was, he was really 

507
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000
trying to tell the truth. 
Okay. 

508
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,100
So am Cooper and that's probably
why Cooper? 

509
00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:30,300
I don't think the story of 
Cooper's, you know, he was 

510
00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:32,800
probably targeted. 
I mean I've seen people die. 

511
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:34,700
So many journalists and stuff 
like that Hastings. 

512
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:36,700
I live in LA. 
Michael Hastings. 

513
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:39,100
Had his car blown up here. 
All right, on. 

514
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,100
Melrose and Highland. 
I mean that's under that's a 

515
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,300
pretty dicey thing, I'm used to 
it, you know, I'm used to all 

516
00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:50,500
this. 
Yeah. 

517
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,700
So I want to ask you was there 
ever a case, or anything, you 

518
00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:00,500
looked into a rolling into the 
investigation going through the 

519
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:04,900
process that you literally Were 
like were thrown this out. 

520
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:07,600
It's too dark, it's too deep. 
I can't handle it. 

521
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,900
What did you ever? 
You always got to the Bottom of 

522
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:10,700
Everything. 
Didn't. 

523
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,300
Well, you know, you go through 
and you go as this baloney. 

524
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:16,800
Like I took a lot of flak for 
saying that the Hampstead was a 

525
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,500
hoax, everybody bought that 
story of the two kids are 

526
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:23,700
getting hit in the face with a 
spoon, coming back from Morocco 

527
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:26,900
as like a real satanic thing. 
There's tons of problem really 

528
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:30,600
satanic influence crimes. 
I mean, I went into West Memphis

529
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,600
Three, but when you go I'm in a 
kind of like Sensibility was to 

530
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,100
really get to the bottom of 
these things. 

531
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,400
So that was it from the very 
beginning, what's the real 

532
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,600
truth? 
And like I said, it didn't come 

533
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,600
out of some void, it came out of
it. 

534
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:47,400
Here's of experience of 
listening to bad job. 

535
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,300
I mean, I looked at the West, 
Memphis Three. 

536
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:52,000
And at that time when I wrote 
that and same with Croley, 

537
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,100
actually, there were so many 
people who got things wrong, or 

538
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,400
excise people, people will talk 
about Curly is like a dabbler. 

539
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,200
That's whenever I see dabbling 
in the occult like I, like 

540
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600
inside of my brain. 
My eyes are all my back and I 

541
00:28:04,608 --> 00:28:07,100
head because it curly was 
anything but a dabbler. 

542
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,200
He's probably one of the most 
accomplished Britain, the 

543
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,200
history of written occultus in 
history because of the present 

544
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,000
age, maybe Simon Magus out of 
the Bible, who Apocrypha it 

545
00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:25,400
fully contested with Peter but 
and was you know, is in the 

546
00:28:25,408 --> 00:28:29,400
Bible mention the Bible that 
magazine but I think that I've 

547
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,300
never really back down like even
the smiley face killings. 

548
00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:33,300
I like these are original 
perceptions. 

549
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:38,600
My mind cruelly, don't know much
about him, not very deep. 

550
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,400
And then I started writing and 
then I was like he dedicated his

551
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,100
whole life all the way to the 
end of the occult. 

552
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:45,300
Let's make history. 
And then I was like, oh, they 

553
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:48,100
were wrongfully accused, and 
there must have been some 

554
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,100
technicality, so they got out 
and then I started reading them.

555
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,300
Like, no, no, no. 
These guys were guilty twice, 

556
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,500
they're still guilty. 
And there's tons of evidence. 

557
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,200
There's a mountain of evidence 
and it's all been re verified by

558
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,200
the The appeals court in 
Arkansas. 

559
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:09,100
So that was another one then 
like looking at how much glow 

560
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,700
Crowley's influence, it's all 
over the place, it's secret its 

561
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:16,400
sub Rosa but it's still there. 
So my perceptions change with 

562
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,100
the kind of deeper inquiry but I
don't think I've shied away from

563
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,600
any of the hardcore stories 
because like, the smiley face 

564
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,400
Killer story is really hardcore.
It means that there is like two 

565
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800
to three hundred guys who met 
their debt, some kind of really 

566
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,200
horrible story Death. 
Very few people have keyed into 

567
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:38,100
the guys who really, really 
courageous the Gilbertson again 

568
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:41,400
and I given full credit that 
really were the ones who first 

569
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:44,100
publicly talked about the 
pattern, but it's still going 

570
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:47,400
on. 
Chicago had like five or ten 

571
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,400
deaths, right back to back to 
back to back within a very short

572
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:52,600
three or four month period right
after covid. 

573
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,800
Kind of we were coming out of 
being locked down so and I watch

574
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,800
those cases like that's another 
one. 

575
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,700
Like oh smiley face, Kelly Urban
myth, this is a funny. 

576
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Story fireside chat where people
can get freaked out and then I 

577
00:30:05,808 --> 00:30:10,100
watch the phenomenon happen to 
two guys, Jolla Buttes, and 

578
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:14,400
Dakota James, Joe in the Butte 
in the Columbus, Ohio decoded, 

579
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,000
fifth rookie. 
And I was like, Pittsburgh. 

580
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,100
Yeah, I'm watching him. 
I'm watching him disappear, 

581
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:21,500
being missing for three weeks, 
and then being found in water. 

582
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:23,900
So, I mean, it's a real 
phenomenon. 

583
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:27,000
And when they were found in 
water, what wasn't like, they 

584
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,500
spent the whole time that they 
were missing in water, right? 

585
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,300
That's the real person. 
About this year and this gets my

586
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:36,100
wheel spinning. 
I mean I have ideas but the 

587
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,600
occult I think it just bleeds 
into so many areas that a lot of

588
00:30:39,608 --> 00:30:43,600
people aren't aware of and not 
everything is is a cult driven 

589
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,200
in my opinion? 
I don't know much. 

590
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,200
But just from when I look at it,
sometimes it just has that 

591
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:51,700
Essence with it. 
We were like this is super dark 

592
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:53,800
and it's connected. 
I don't think it's all the cool 

593
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,600
driven, like there's a lot of 
these really hardcore dark 

594
00:30:57,900 --> 00:30:59,900
International dark rooms red 
rooms. 

595
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:02,400
They called these are real. 
There was one in the 

596
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,200
Philippines. 
I don't know if all those people

597
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,800
are cold like outright 
occultist, but if you're really 

598
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,300
into the doctrines of the 
occult, those are the ideas that

599
00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:14,100
will lead you to do these dark 
things. 

600
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:16,400
Like if you're a do, what thou 
Wilt or then it's like, I do 

601
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,600
whatever I want. 
I don't care. 

602
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:19,100
Who cares. 
If I heard somebody else. 

603
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:23,100
Who cares of this? 
Yeah, so the ones that I mean, 

604
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:27,000
it's is interesting looking back
at kind of my research. 

605
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,000
How much of that? 
And I think it was from the 

606
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,800
ignorance of thinking that this 
It doesn't exist like I had a 

607
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,000
superficial understanding, like,
how are the? 

608
00:31:37,008 --> 00:31:39,600
I mean I've heard of Manson, I 
heard the family I've heard of, 

609
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,600
but are people really seriously 
involved in these groups that 

610
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,800
have secrecy. 
And the bonding rituals things 

611
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,100
that they do like a like like 
not like the Crips or something,

612
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,000
you know. 
Yeah. 

613
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,600
Like and the answer is yeah yes 
they did. 

614
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:58,900
I mean I'm having answered that 
to my own personal satisfaction 

615
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,300
That's a person who was never 
involved in, like a Coltrane. 

616
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,500
Yeah, that's scary. 
Because There's a lot of people 

617
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:12,400
that well not many people that 
learn that the hard way either 

618
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:18,600
from coming across an experience
or, you know, being a little too

619
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,100
close for comfort and then, you 
know, majority of people just 

620
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,900
have no idea what's really going
on at times. 

621
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:27,000
I see a lot of us the symbolism,
right? 

622
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,900
You see it, especially in music 
and Now, there's something to 

623
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,600
that now. 
Obviously, I like to consider 

624
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,100
like okay well who was the 
producer that song, okay? 

625
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:39,200
The same producer who did the 
song so maybe it's just a style 

626
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,000
door going for, but it's never 
quite as it seems at first 

627
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,900
glance. 
As I'm kind of learning, it's 

628
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:48,000
always kind of what's going on 
behind the scenes and it's 

629
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,800
always a little bit deeper and 
darker more Twisted than what 

630
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,100
could first be. 
Thought of are identified by 

631
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:56,900
what, you know, whatever 
internet YouTube video that you 

632
00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:58,300
come across. 
And they're like, oh this is 

633
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:03,100
Pump the brakes, slow down, do 
the research let the time set 

634
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:06,200
in. 
And like you said, even just now

635
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,000
talking with you, I'm like, I 
get that feeling, you got that 

636
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000
look in your eyes, man, like 
when you said I don't back down 

637
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,900
there, I'm getting to the bottom
of the Barrel in any case that 

638
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:17,000
you put your mind to. 
We need to see that more men and

639
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,600
women today. 
We need to see that kind of 

640
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,400
audacity where it's like, I 
think Thomas Jefferson said it 

641
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,300
like this. 
He said, listen, Float with the 

642
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:29,100
current easily when it comes to 
the simple and easy things, 

643
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:31,500
right? 
But be a unmovable Rock when it 

644
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,900
comes to morals, right? 
When it comes to the truthful, 

645
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:36,800
things I'm paraphrasing him 
there, but in a nutshell, that's

646
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,500
one of the quotes that I really 
liked by hand, because what it 

647
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:44,500
did for my mind is go, I'm a 
rare breed, even if I am of that

648
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:46,500
stock, I don't know. 
I like to think that I'm on the 

649
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:48,500
path of trying to figure some 
stuff out. 

650
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:50,600
I look at a guy like you and 
there's plenty of other people 

651
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,300
and plug in that category where 
I go. 

652
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,100
You know what we do? 
Everything. 

653
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:55,800
Right? 
I believe each one of us has a 

654
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,300
little something wrong, but when
people are in it for the right 

655
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:04,300
reason, right? 
When you are involved with no, 

656
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:07,000
ulterior motive, mind of, in 
fact, that like the by in the 

657
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,600
Bible says this have no works 
with fruitless seeds of 

658
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,100
Darkness, right? 
You got expose that unfruitful 

659
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,800
things of Darkness but it's 
puzzle, right? 

660
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,000
That's yes. 
And all he's in, 612 nose. 

661
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:27,900
Mmm. 
I'd say but I can't connect. 

662
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:29,300
Can I read something here real 
quick? 

663
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:32,199
Yeah, sure please. 
So I wrote this down years ago. 

664
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,800
I'm not a religious guy I 
believe. 

665
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,800
And I have my reasons to believe
what I believe, but it was about

666
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,199
eight years ago that I 
surrendered my heart to Christ. 

667
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,600
Okay, I didn't grow up in the 
church was kind of like one of 

668
00:34:44,607 --> 00:34:47,100
those Easter Christmas church 
guys. 

669
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:49,900
And I've read a couple books and
I was literally being 

670
00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:53,500
challenged. 
My mind is, I had to reinvent 

671
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:56,699
myself, I had to lose the old 
identity and learn how to 

672
00:34:56,699 --> 00:34:59,400
operate different. 
And this quote right here, it's 

673
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,000
not a, not a Bible quote, but it
struck me, then as it does every

674
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,200
time I read it now. 
So, It's not the critic, who 

675
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,200
counts? 
Not the man, who points out how 

676
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,900
the strong man stumbles or where
the doer of Good Deed could have

677
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:18,000
done better. 
The credit belongs to the man 

678
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000
who is actually in the arena 
whose face is marred by dust and

679
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,200
sweat and blood. 
Who strives valiantly, he knows 

680
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,200
the great enthusiasms, the great
devotions. he spends himself in 

681
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,100
a worthy cause who at the best 
knows in the end, the Triumph of

682
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:41,500
high achievement and who at the 
worst if he fails at least 

683
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:45,100
fails, while daring greatly so 
that his place shall never be 

684
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:48,400
with those cold and timid Souls 
who neither know Victory or 

685
00:35:48,408 --> 00:35:56,000
defeat that was Teddy Roosevelt 
and Where's that generation at? 

686
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:58,400
You know, for all the listeners 
out there right now, you guys 

687
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,800
Where's that generation at? 
This is, this is a calling to 

688
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,700
just be serious about the way 
you're processing. 

689
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:10,500
The information that is floating
around out there, whatever Camp 

690
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:12,600
you're coming from. 
I believe there's a middle 

691
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,400
ground, I think it starts first 
and foremost with humility and 

692
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,100
listening, a little bit more 
than we talk and giving credit 

693
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:22,000
where credit is due and being in
the arena and not complaining so

694
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,100
much when we're roughed up a 
little bit that builds character

695
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:29,000
by the way. 
I mean, I think from the 

696
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Christian who you mentioned Paul
like he says you are going to 

697
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,400
have these complex even Christ 
has to write. 

698
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,300
Like you, they don't lay it out 
like this is a big field of 

699
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:40,600
roses. 
You're going to be at peace. 

700
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:43,100
No, it's the off listening to 
become a wild. 

701
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:46,300
For my name going to be reviled 
for my name, you're going to be 

702
00:36:46,308 --> 00:36:49,100
persecuted. 
I mean, the, the Beatitudes is 

703
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,900
like blessed, those were 
persecuted for righteousness, it

704
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:54,600
happens. 
So, I mean, from my perspective,

705
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,000
it wasn't like I didn't, I 
wasn't naive about that. 

706
00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:00,500
Mmm. 
And some incredible. 

707
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:03,800
I've had incredible experiences.
I cannot divulge. 

708
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:05,900
I cannot have multiple. 
Share one or two or three. 

709
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:08,200
You can see that? 
No, no, I can't. 

710
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,700
Jeez. 
Okay, make me wait, man. 

711
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,500
That's tough. 
We're in a deep buried, tough 

712
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,300
spot. 
I don't know. 

713
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:20,200
So I think that, I think that 
what we're doing right now is a 

714
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,900
great Benefit and virtue because
it's an end-around between this 

715
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:29,500
whole corrupt informational 
system media system. 

716
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,600
That's, I mean, can you believe 
that we live in a country that 

717
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,300
they're actively censoring 
people like it's incredible. 

718
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:37,600
They're not even giving them 
that their constitutional 

719
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:40,900
prerogative, right? 
Like I mean the these companies 

720
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:43,200
all had the benefit of the 
Constitution have for their 

721
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,400
rights, to create their 
businesses under the law, but 

722
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,400
you don't get it passed through,
it's unbelievable. 

723
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:51,100
And the fact that, I mean, 
they're finding out these 

724
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,900
lawsuits, Coming out of the 
Midwest, Iowa Schmidt from 

725
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:58,500
Missouri, maybe who is starting 
to get these documents from the 

726
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:01,000
CDC and fauci that the 
government. 

727
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000
And these guys are actually 
coming in behind the tech 

728
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,200
companies to selectively sensor.
People that is textbook fascism 

729
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,300
that is dangerous. 
It's evil. 

730
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,600
We've already gone through this 
fascist past. 

731
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:13,800
We know it's bad. 
We don't want to re go through 

732
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,900
this. 
So these people need to be 

733
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,400
brought into some form of 
account for their wrongdoing, 

734
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:25,100
and I don't think that the 
career I won't even It's called 

735
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,100
the department took our 
apartment of Jay. 

736
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:31,100
I can't even say that word 
applying to the current deal 

737
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:32,800
doj. 
I can't even say that. 

738
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,900
So we're we're in a difficult 
spot. 

739
00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:38,500
I don't trust these people to do
the right thing at all. 

740
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,200
I don't think the justice is 
going to come out of Washington 

741
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,900
and somebody's live there. 
It's going to come from the 

742
00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:45,000
states, people coming up through
the state's. 

743
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,500
I wouldn't even go through 
Washington. 

744
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:49,600
I would just go through your 
State Rep, your state 

745
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,900
legislature, your governor. 
That's probably much more 

746
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:57,700
efficacious spending of time 
with the actual individual than.

747
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:00,800
Yeah, I love the fact that you, 
I advise you said, you're acting

748
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,700
for that. 
Would be mine, and I put 

749
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:05,300
everything in writing, put it in
writing, like, I don't agree 

750
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:06,300
with this. 
I don't want this. 

751
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,300
I don't think that this is 
right. 

752
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:11,100
I don't think that, this kind of
censorship is productive because

753
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,900
you need live more uncensored 
right now, we're changing 

754
00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:16,600
information. 
That's how you kind of build on 

755
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,700
our. 
We can say iron sharpens, iron, 

756
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:23,600
whatever A lot of the times 
people are Or using all of their

757
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,100
energy and their Focus. 
Right? 

758
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:28,200
To just complain and nothing 
else and it's like, literally go

759
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,500
plug yourself in. 
Right? 

760
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:31,500
If you don't like the way the 
school systems working, go do 

761
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:34,600
need some time there. 
Be a part of that go observe, 

762
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,500
right absorb what's going on 
there and a homeschool your kids

763
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:41,200
right or homes we're kind of in 
this nice little bubble here in 

764
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,200
South Eastern PA where it's not 
too bad but we're very We're In 

765
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,000
the Heat of it okay. 
We're in the midst of a lot of 

766
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,000
chaos and you have walking by 
faith and not by sight is It's 

767
00:39:52,008 --> 00:39:55,700
more, it's imperative. 
We, we who claim to believe in 

768
00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:58,500
the faith or God. 
I think that's going to be 

769
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:00,500
tested. 
But what I was getting at 

770
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:05,900
William is, like, I see a very, 
very small amount of people that

771
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:07,600
are actually walking with their 
talking. 

772
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,400
So, like, I love the fact that 
we have the opportunity like 

773
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,500
today's the day, right? 
It's like we don't want to be 

774
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:18,800
the wicked person who's like, 
we're holding on to our money 

775
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,500
where Desiring to make more 
money. 

776
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:23,600
And every morning we wake up 
We're counting our seeds and say

777
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,200
that tomorrow, I'll go out and 
plan. 

778
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:27,500
I don't think that's the right 
mentality. 

779
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:29,800
I think, literally today's the 
day, like, talk with your 

780
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,200
neighbors. 
I'm not talking about extremism 

781
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,900
on its own people. 
I'll go start. 

782
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:36,300
This is that no, by the way, we 
carry and conduct ourselves is 

783
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:41,200
going to be how people are 
attracted to us as if we're the 

784
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,700
salt of the world, right? 
And I love, honestly, I love the

785
00:40:45,707 --> 00:40:48,600
diversity of the people that 
I've had on the show just 

786
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,100
because it I'm trying to 
demonstrate guys. 

787
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,700
Respectful conversation first, 
all and treat an elder like an 

788
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:58,800
elder, right? 
You know, give them some honor 

789
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,000
and hear people out. 
And man, I literally I just 

790
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,000
wanted to compliment you on this
because I was, you've been in my

791
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,700
ear of last couple days. 
Obviously, as I've been 

792
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:10,100
prepping, you know, and just 
kind of like listening to some 

793
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,700
of your stuff out of their own 
pockets and I'm thinking, 

794
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,400
There's only a couple people 
that got you like upset, like 

795
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,700
there's people trying to talk 
over you and being respectful 

796
00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:20,900
and your stove. 
Hey you give them space. 

797
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:23,000
All right? 
Yeah, and the one guy you're 

798
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,000
like everything you got, like, 
give me everything before I 

799
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,500
respond at all, because the guy 
had attended just trying to 

800
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:32,500
steamroll you and I'm like you 
don't see that either, right? 

801
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:34,100
Like they're really 
demonstrating. 

802
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:37,600
Just how to have a good. 
Disagreement is so important. 

803
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:41,400
People are so emotionally 
involved that as soon as their 

804
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,600
emotions are. 
My feelings are hurt or the way 

805
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,200
that I view, this isn't being 
accepted as all the sun, I can't

806
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,900
even handle myself. 
I can't even look this person. 

807
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:52,000
The eyes and carry out of 
cordial conversation. 

808
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,600
So I wanted to compliment you on
that because I listen to a lot 

809
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,200
of different shows and some 
really wild stuff going on, man.

810
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000
It's not different. 
And I think I try to keep my 

811
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,100
show. 
I don't try to like, it's not a 

812
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,100
comedy show, but I don't mind 
conflict. 

813
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,900
I mean, I had the two flat Earth
guys. 

814
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:12,500
Those are probably the worst 
ones like, where we argued the 

815
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:15,800
most I mean, some of these 
subjects, I know pretty well. 

816
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,200
I know the West. 
Memphis Three pretty well. 

817
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000
I've Had The Misfortune of 
studying, a lot of cruelly, I'm 

818
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,600
not a practitioner so that, you 
know, these are subjects that I 

819
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,800
know. 
So when somebody like starts 

820
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,900
putting in PR stuff nonsense, 
like, I just had one recently 

821
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:31,500
really a woman. 
She just repeated everything 

822
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:34,700
from their West, Memphis Three, 
PR for like 90 minutes and it 

823
00:42:34,707 --> 00:42:37,900
was incredible. 
I just it was like just firing 

824
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:38,600
everyone. 
Okay. 

825
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,000
But the thing is that I've been 
You know, we butting or 

826
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,800
responding to those four decade 
like I wrote that book a decade 

827
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,900
ago, I was 10 years ago so I 
mean I've seen all the 

828
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:55,900
arguments, I know, I know, I 
know that case record pre pretty

829
00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:58,900
good. 
Now William I want to ask you, 

830
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:01,700
what do you think is the most 
important message for the 

831
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:05,000
millennial generation today? 
What's the most important 

832
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,800
message? 
I think you have to see the 

833
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,500
spiritual events that are 
happening today that you're 

834
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:14,900
seeing The days of Noah come in 
right now, in my opinion, like 

835
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:19,100
the Book of Revelation is 
unraveling as we speak in a 

836
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:22,600
strange way. 
Like, imagine a.document that 

837
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,200
people looked at in the standard
Canon and said, why is this book

838
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,700
here? 
I think even Luther wanted to 

839
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:32,900
take the Book of Revelation out 
because he couldn't see its 

840
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:34,400
application. 
Like you just thought it was 

841
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,200
some kind of weird dream but 
you're seeing it right now like 

842
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,800
these people have very dark 
views towards other 'Well, and 

843
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,600
you have to really be care. 
Like the people who didn't see 

844
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:46,000
what was happening with the 
Nazis. 

845
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,500
They didn't see what could 
happen. 

846
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,200
Exactly. 
You really have to see what's 

847
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,300
happening now. 
So I would say that I mean, is 

848
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:55,300
goes back to the spiritual 
worldview, Christian worldview, 

849
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,400
but you have to kind of get it 
yourself. 

850
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,900
I do. 
I mean, it's really worthwhile 

851
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:05,500
to read the Bible yourself and 
ruminate on yourself in prayer. 

852
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,200
Is that for me was the most 
important thing, not to actually

853
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,300
see what somebody else was 
saying about it. 

854
00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:15,600
But cc4, I think the gospels are
very well-written. 

855
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,800
Somebody put a lot of thought 
and effort in there because 

856
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,400
there's even things in there 
that you wouldn't even include 

857
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,400
in a sermon or something, like 
they clearly are just trying to 

858
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,800
be as authentic to the story 
because there's a lot. 

859
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,600
I mean, even like the Lord's, 
you know, railing in Jerusalem, 

860
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,700
like, you always never hear 
that, that's why you have to 

861
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:39,500
read it yourself. 
Greatest love story ever told 

862
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,300
right? 
But I mean, it's more than that 

863
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:45,900
because, yes, it's not just, I 
mean, you can see like, hey, 

864
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:48,000
this is Dan. 
How Can You Escape damnation? 

865
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,500
It's, he was against the kind of
injustices of the time. 

866
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:56,200
That's why he ended up the way 
it did. 

867
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,800
I mean, all had to happen for it
all happen for a reason, but 

868
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,600
That stuff that those narratives
are left out. 

869
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,700
I think in it may not just 
because it's just not a right 

870
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,600
over the right place for a 
Pulpit on a Sunday. 

871
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,000
It's not a moral lesson, but I 
think it is a moral lesson. 

872
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:12,000
I would write. 
So I recommend I highly 

873
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,400
recommend people get a good copy
of the Bible that advice would 

874
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,500
be contrary to like, what the 
Catholic Church says, right? 

875
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:22,200
It's like absolutely Nick. 
Price can tell you what's in 

876
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,900
there. 
Hey, but you know, there's 

877
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:26,300
priestcraft that there's also 
Pastor craft. 

878
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:30,400
They love us, modern, Students 
aren't immune. 

879
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,500
They would love to point at the 
priests for their sins which are

880
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,200
manifold. 
Everything I look at on my shows

881
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,300
through what I consider to be a 
Biblical filter, my aspirations 

882
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:43,300
at way my education all day 
every day. 

883
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:47,900
But the way I look at it is If 
I'm not focusing on loving my 

884
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:50,300
neighbor, right? 
And if I'm not focusing on, like

885
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:53,300
being the head of my house on 
which means I'm trying my best 

886
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:56,800
failing all the time, I'm not a 
good example of this, but I try 

887
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,800
to carry out the fact that I 
include God in everything. 

888
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,800
I try to read a lie and I'm 
trying to honor my wife and my 

889
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,600
three kids. 
I'm trying to literally give 

890
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,100
them the best that I can offer. 
I didn't come from a rich 

891
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:08,800
family. 
I didn't come from a college 

892
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,600
family, very hard working class 
people that are coming from and 

893
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,500
That's that's like the Forefront
of my battle like, everything. 

894
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:19,700
Like, I made a post recently 
where I'm saying. 

895
00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:22,500
Listen, I'm a part-time 
podcaster working on my 

896
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:26,800
relationship with God, as I fail
forward, and my wife and my 

897
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,300
workflow. 
In that order, most important, 

898
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:32,400
things hands down, all that 
other stuff, super important. 

899
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,800
And that's why it's like, I feel
like we have such an issue with 

900
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,300
Colin men for because men can't 
even figure out what they 

901
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:41,100
believe first and foremost. 
So how are they going to be able

902
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:44,700
to walk in and have, you know 
that power with Because they 

903
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:48,000
believe something there that 
placebo effect, right? 

904
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,000
There's power and belief, man, 
we can prove that just through 

905
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:54,000
scientific observation of a 
doctor, giving you a sugar pill 

906
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,300
and you can heal whatever your 
ailment is. 

907
00:46:56,300 --> 00:46:59,200
Let's say you have a headache or
inflammation in your knee and it

908
00:46:59,207 --> 00:47:02,500
gives you a sugar pill but 
you're actually able to your 

909
00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:03,800
body. 
So wonderfully and fearfully 

910
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,800
created, it can heal itself. 
So this power and belief even on

911
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,200
the bad side and the good side, 
there's power in both. 

912
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:15,500
There's a power source The camp 
of light, you know, God and his 

913
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:18,800
his son who he loved dearly who 
covered that chasm. 

914
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,300
In order for us to have the 
audacity to challenge these 

915
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:24,200
things, knowing right from 
wrong. 

916
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:28,600
And I think about this in this, 
like we got to stir up men, to 

917
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,500
be excited about the Bible, 
right? 

918
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:32,200
Like they're always excited 
about like, whatever the cool 

919
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,500
new movie is, or you know, 
whatever football comes on and 

920
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:37,800
believe me, I played football 
for Years love football. 

921
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,900
But to be more excited about 
those things. 

922
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,900
And completely blinded to the 
reality of the destruction. 

923
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:48,900
That is going on all around us 
on so many different levels. 

924
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,400
I can't even get into the topic 
because I'll just, I'll start 

925
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,400
some linear myself. 
It goes so deep, and it's so 

926
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,900
dark. 
A lot of the times. 

927
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,400
It can be too late for people. 
And that hurts. 

928
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,400
If you actually love your 
neighbor to see people 

929
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,200
destroying themselves because I 
was that guy eight years ago and

930
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,400
I believe in the power of 
sanctification and I believe in 

931
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,900
the power of literally, 
forgiving people start their and

932
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:22,300
hey, to any listeners out there,
start with forgiving yourself be

933
00:48:22,300 --> 00:48:26,000
so hard on yourself. 
We need to call these men to 

934
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,500
come forward and have some 
backbone. 

935
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:28,900
You guys need to figure out what
you believe in. 

936
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:30,900
And listen, if you disagree with
what I believe in. 

937
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:32,900
Cool, man, I still want to talk 
with you. 

938
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:34,300
I still want to hear what you 
have to say. 

939
00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:36,300
I'm not trying to ask you to 
believe in what I believe. 

940
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:40,200
Or try to reiterate with William
believes or beliefs. 

941
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,300
Something believe something in 
the days we live in and make a 

942
00:48:44,308 --> 00:48:46,100
choice. 
Because you're right, William 

943
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:49,500
with all of this going on. 
It's not very good right now. 

944
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,300
I try to use every opportunity I
can, I do a lot of what I do on 

945
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:55,700
like a one-on-one basis. 
These opportunities for me are 

946
00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:58,300
so unique. 
I'm so happy that I'm able to 

947
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:01,200
talk with you and and connect on
this level. 

948
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,000
That feels good, man. 
It feels good. 

949
00:49:05,500 --> 00:49:07,100
Me too. 
I mean I think that's kind of 

950
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:10,400
like why I put a lot of my stuff
out there is like they can look 

951
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,800
and go. 
This is what he thinks at any 

952
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,900
given time. 
Somebody can go back through, on

953
00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:18,100
whatever subject I do. 
Try to research all my books and

954
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,500
on those issues, I don't go into
them blind. 

955
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,500
I don't think I've ever really 
done a show. 

956
00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:27,400
Really maybe one or two, where I
didn't really try to prepare 

957
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,100
that be thoughtful. 
So you can look at all's, I've 

958
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:32,200
done a lot of Christian shows, 
I'm going to have a whole set 

959
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,100
aside. 
Christianity Today, just like a 

960
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:37,700
whole podcast by itself. 
You just want to focus on that 

961
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,100
not on my talking to other 
people. 

962
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:44,200
I've talked to a lot of Jews of 
talk to Catholics talked to you.

963
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:48,300
I talked to a gnostic the other 
day, a lot of pro, lot of 

964
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:50,300
problems from a Christian 
perspective, but I talked to a 

965
00:49:50,308 --> 00:49:53,200
couple gnostics actually but I'm
not afraid to talk about it but 

966
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,000
I haven't changed my they 
haven't changed my outlook 

967
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,500
anyway. 
I think I've talked to a couple 

968
00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:03,000
of cultists to but yeah, so I 
think it I think that that's the

969
00:50:03,008 --> 00:50:05,100
benefit of it being there is 
that somebody can come back and 

970
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:07,200
go. 
Okay, I'm interested in seeing 

971
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,100
this. 
They get edified and not 

972
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,900
entertained, we kind of are 
drowning in entertainment were 

973
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:15,500
over in Turin, info tained right
now, or Sports teenagers. 

974
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,100
So, yeah, it's much better for 
people to get edified, really? 

975
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:22,800
See these very important topics,
that impact, the things aren't 

976
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,100
going to get better. 
Inflation is not good. 

977
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,900
Open borders isn't good. 
Huge financial is interest 

978
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:33,900
buying up houses so that the 
middle class can't buy or own 

979
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:37,000
anything disaster. 
The world economic forum is a 

980
00:50:37,008 --> 00:50:40,100
disaster. 
So we're up against Real 

981
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,400
different enemies. 
It's much easier to identify the

982
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,800
enemies of in World War Two. 
The ones now because it's much 

983
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,200
more three-dimensional, you're 
100% right about that. 

984
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,200
My mind does this ready as 
agreeing with you? 

985
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,500
And I see what I see that's 
going on my little glimmers into

986
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,200
certain things that really 
bother me. 

987
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,900
I think. 
Thank God I'm reminded of he 

988
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:09,200
whose grave is the majority live
even if there's like one or two 

989
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,300
you? 
So like even though it's like 

990
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:12,700
nobody else comes up and like 
gets a backbone and actually 

991
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:14,600
starts to like deal with these 
things. 

992
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:18,500
We're the majority man. 
I truly believe that power is 

993
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:22,700
going to come from the big guy 
top man. it's his will that 

994
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:26,400
works through us and in us and 
causing us to do his good work 

995
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:33,900
and man that dude I really 
enjoyed this conversation and 

996
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:37,500
it's like I got a lot from it. 
Honestly I'm trying to Model A 

997
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:40,400
little bit of my show after what
I see you doing which is 

998
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,700
covering such a diversity of 
topics that nobody can just slap

999
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:46,200
a label on like that people may 
say, oh your conspiracy 

1000
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,500
theorists are you're cool with 
that group of people. 

1001
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,200
It's like, listen, I'm cool with
anybody who knows how to be 

1002
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,200
cool, but like we can meet and 
have these conversations and 

1003
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,300
there's I tell people all the 
time, the shows, like, I don't 

1004
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:59,200
agree with everything I hear on.
So, I'm not asking anybody to 

1005
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,800
agree with everything they hear,
if you're tuning in, what? 

1006
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,500
Use your critical thinking, make
your own choice, right? 

1007
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,900
Just right. 
And you can pick and choose 

1008
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:10,100
Rock, right? 
Just chopping it up on those 

1009
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:14,400
topics is a good way because 
anything that we may share or 

1010
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,100
have experience or digging into 
that, could be the survival 

1011
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:19,000
guide for somebody else, you've 
never met before. 

1012
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:23,000
So true, you know, you can 
sustain a key part that they 

1013
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,500
needed to hear in order to like 
get over a fear or two to make a

1014
00:52:27,508 --> 00:52:29,500
connection. 
Like we don't know how far the 

1015
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:31,500
ripple effect goes well like 
individually. 

1016
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:32,900
We have no idea how deep it 
goes. 

1017
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:35,300
I believe someday, we're going 
to know, William someday, we're 

1018
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:39,900
gonna see the Marvel of him. 
Oh my gosh, like, here I am 

1019
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:41,300
thinking. 
I was like, you know, doing 

1020
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:44,000
something great here in like 
everything that really great was

1021
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,100
happening, was just, I've had 
very strange events. 

1022
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:50,600
Like I wasn't really that much 
that public until maybe the last

1023
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,800
three or For years. 
I was kind of just writing books

1024
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,000
but even then, when I put stuff 
out, people would recognize me. 

1025
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,600
I'd be at the store or something
like that. 

1026
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,200
It's like fight club or 
something. 

1027
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,600
They would just look at me and 
go and I would look back at them

1028
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,700
and go. 
And now visit never change 

1029
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:08,400
words, I be inlined just, you 
know, checking out with 

1030
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,400
groceries. 
Please do not go. 

1031
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,600
Is that what that my point is? 
Is that's the Ripple? 

1032
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:18,700
I don't know. 
I've been on that's why I almost

1033
00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:20,200
go on every show that includes 
me. 

1034
00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:23,000
I don't know where it goes. 
Like I was on have been on so 

1035
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,500
many different shows. 
Different types of people 

1036
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:27,200
different Christian Fringe, when
I first came out, our first 

1037
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,900
wrote, my first book, I was on 
Christian friend shows, you 

1038
00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:31,400
know, they weren't, I never got 
him. 

1039
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:35,800
I don't think I maybe Skywatch, 
I can't think of really any big 

1040
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:39,200
Christian show or anything 
church or anything. 

1041
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,400
That's it for invited me. 
These small shows but then 

1042
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,500
people go, man, he's ideas. 
They sent a crazy and then they 

1043
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:49,700
go. 
Let me check this out a little 

1044
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:51,400
bit more. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1045
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,700
I've never I've never been 
called to go on a Pulpit or But 

1046
00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:58,600
it does. 
I mean the power of this thing 

1047
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,300
is this ripple effect? 
You don't really know. 

1048
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,900
I don't know, there's a couple 
messages and emails that I 

1049
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:08,400
remind myself of when I'm like 
kind of like going through a 

1050
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,000
season where it's like this is 
you know, something's coming up 

1051
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,800
against you and it's consuming 
all of that time and you kind of

1052
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,400
feel that negative vibe coming 
off on you. 

1053
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,300
There's a couple people that 
have Very in a very short 

1054
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:25,400
manner, true to the point 
delivered. 

1055
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,200
Some information to me that when
I read it, I knew it's almost. 

1056
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,100
Like when you, you just send you
look at somebody else and they 

1057
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:31,500
have that look and you just nod 
your head. 

1058
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:35,200
When I read that message, I just
knew I could feel. 

1059
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:39,200
This is a real person who's 
dealt with real issues who 

1060
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,900
really got something out of, I 
don't know. 

1061
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:45,600
Some people call it a Ministry, 
I don't know, just go to 

1062
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,600
podcasts in the guy next door. 
I'm asking weird questions. 

1063
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,200
I'm, you know, chopping it up, 
trying to learn trying to Have a

1064
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,600
wider Spectrum than just what 
YouTube is willing to show me 

1065
00:54:55,300 --> 00:54:59,200
right now. 
And not good, dude. 

1066
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,000
I watch YouTube on time to learn
how to like fix. 

1067
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,300
A part of my car is like I'm 
crazy idea to. 

1068
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:05,200
I use it for that. 
Yeah. 

1069
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,700
But you can go down some really 
weird. 

1070
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:10,900
You spend an hour or two on 
YouTube, start with one video 

1071
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:13,800
and just literally document 
where you go where you end up 

1072
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:14,900
at. 
It's like that's not by 

1073
00:55:14,900 --> 00:55:17,500
accident. 
So I have had people call my 

1074
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:19,600
show a Ministry though that's is
interesting. 

1075
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,900
Like, I don't think of it as a 
Ministry, I think of it, more of

1076
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:28,500
like information, like kind of 
Evergreen Information I think is

1077
00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:31,000
would be accurate but, you know,
I do a lot of cry mean. 

1078
00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:35,800
Most of my stuff is it's all 
like the substructures all 

1079
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,400
Christian. 
It's Not Over. 

1080
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,100
Not a big fan of the way that 
history has been. 

1081
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:46,200
When we look at what the church 
has done and what's been going 

1082
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,900
on in all the division, I'm not 
a big fan of that. 

1083
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:52,600
I have a better idea of what the
future could look like if we 

1084
00:55:52,607 --> 00:55:55,900
introduce some humility. 
And we started to allow the 

1085
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:58,300
miners to be with the miners in 
the majors with the majors only 

1086
00:55:58,300 --> 00:55:59,600
important topics when it comes 
to the church. 

1087
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,900
Right. 
But I was in a parking lot and 

1088
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:07,600
I'm just doing what it is that I
do is like I will talk with I'm 

1089
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,900
like a magnet for people just 
like talking with me which I 

1090
00:56:09,908 --> 00:56:13,300
love that, you know, and this 
older Italian guy, we were 

1091
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:16,000
talking, you know, I'm like dude
I got like five minutes. 

1092
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,300
I've never met this guy before, 
kind of like, hey, I got to get 

1093
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:21,900
moving, half an hour into it. 
You know, he's got me on the 

1094
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:24,600
line, I'm like we're chopping up
going back and forth and he 

1095
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,100
stops puts his hands on his hips
and Squints at me and gets real 

1096
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,800
close and says you should be a 
minister. 

1097
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,400
You should get out of that 
clothes and go dress up and be a

1098
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,900
minister. 
And I said, I am a minister. 

1099
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:46,700
I'm Minister it to you, right? 
Most of the real Ministry and a 

1100
00:56:46,707 --> 00:56:49,600
lot of my listeners, know, this 
and friends and family. 

1101
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,400
Like it happens in the parking 
lot doesn't happen in the four 

1102
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,000
corners. 
It doesn't mean it can't happen 

1103
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,200
in those four corners. 
I don't want to Rob nothing from

1104
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,300
them. 
I believe there's people that 

1105
00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:00,600
are diligent, it says, you're do
good to all, but especially to 

1106
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,800
those of the house of the Lord, 
if they're preaching Christ 

1107
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,100
crucified and resurrected, 
listen, I'll support you. 

1108
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,200
Ministry happens outside of that
too. 

1109
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,600
But it takes a backbone to be in
God's calling in to do that kind

1110
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,200
of stuff man. 
I look at your show as a 

1111
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,000
Ministry. 
You don't even throw a person 

1112
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,100
late. 
A lot of times I deal with 

1113
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:18,200
people. 
I don't even talk about like I 

1114
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,300
don't bring Bob versus I just 
talked to him about. 

1115
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:24,000
Listen, this is what I really 
had dealt with your talent of. 

1116
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,700
You're telling me what you're 
going through and reciprocating 

1117
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:28,000
you on what I did, how I felt 
people built. 

1118
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,500
They build trust with you and 
then they start to go man, 

1119
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:33,700
what's different about you? 
And it's like, wow I repented 

1120
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,900
there was a lifting off from us,
all right? 

1121
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,100
You know, my experience people 
just getting on their level 

1122
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:42,200
meeting them, where they're at. 
But I feel like there's there's 

1123
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,100
some importance here when you 
see evangelist running around 

1124
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:47,300
out there with the Bible and 
they're just like, if you don't 

1125
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:49,200
believe this, you're going to 
hell. 

1126
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,300
It's like, you have no idea. 
If the ripple effect in that 

1127
00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:56,000
person's life, right now is 
stirring them to come to the 

1128
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,100
identification of I need to 
repent and I've been living 

1129
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,300
wrong, right? 
And yeah, something's not right 

1130
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:03,000
with my like, I don't like my 
outcomes. 

1131
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,900
I need to change and literally 
The British military. 

1132
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:09,600
They would March if they repent 
and they would turn right. 

1133
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,000
Like, I literally need to turn 
from this way that I've been 

1134
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,400
going and reinvent myself, but 
people want to run around out 

1135
00:58:15,408 --> 00:58:18,600
there and slap them with, you 
know, both from song, I don't 

1136
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,600
know. 
Seminary School guy has a piece 

1137
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,000
of paper and he's saying do it 
this way or else you're not 

1138
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,200
included. 
I think we're missing the very 

1139
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,100
people were going after by doing
it that way. 

1140
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:31,500
So, I'm not saying is wrong, 
there's times where it's like, 

1141
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:34,400
listen, have you heard the good 
news, but meeting people where 

1142
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,100
they're at. 
If you guys believe this, Be 

1143
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:38,800
genuine. 
Slow down. 

1144
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:43,500
Pay attention. 
Watch try to, you know, try to 

1145
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:44,600
feel what people are going 
through. 

1146
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,000
We've all been there. 
None of us are exempt. 

1147
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,700
William keep exposing the 
darkness. 

1148
00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:52,600
Do not grow weary in doing good 
man, because in due season, 

1149
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,200
we're going to read to read, 
man. 

1150
00:58:54,900 --> 00:58:56,700
Thank you. 
But wise, it's been great to be 

1151
00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,600
with you. 
You have anything you want to 

1152
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:05,700
add before we hit the non record
button time, short time is short

1153
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:32,200
so don't talk like that. 
You are the reason I'm grateful.

1154
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:35,700
You are worthy. 
You are worthy of my prayers and

1155
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:39,100
you're worthy of my Praises. 
I pray to you every day just 

1156
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:41,400
like David. 
You took me from the streets but

1157
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,400
you brought me back to you. 
You cleaned up my life because 

1158
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,200
this is what you do. 
People got their opinions but 

1159
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,200
I'm sticking to the course Miss 
Cappy. 

1160
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,600
Just can't to show me like 
yours, truly short. 

1161
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:55,000
You are the reason why I gotta 
keep grabbing and I'm grateful 

1162
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,700
for your love and no I'm not 
asking you. 

1163
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:22,800
The reason 
for your mercy that you had on 

1164
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,900
my life, even when I was getting
high with talk to you with 

1165
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:28,100
nights, I seen people die from 
this. 

1166
01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:32,200
Things I did at 25 years old I 
had my first kid. 

1167
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:35,600
My life started to change. 
I knew I wanted a better in my 

1168
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,000
lifetime. 
Yeah I seen it a lot of Jetta 

1169
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,800
people got her family members 
turn to me, my heart needed. 

1170
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,200
Real repair, I need a surgery. 
You came through in the clutch, 

1171
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,700
even when I gave up, Lord You 
Are My Savior so I'm never 

1172
01:00:48,700 --> 01:00:50,900
giving up your worth of the 
Praises. 

1173
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:53,000
That's why I Sing Praises. 
I love you. 

1174
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,500
Jesus Christ, that's why you are
my savior. 

1175
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,600
You know what Laura, the wasn't 
for you? 

1176
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,600
I wouldn't even be here. 
You know. 

1177
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,000
Everybody might not understand 
my calling in life, but I know 

1178
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:29,700
you and I'm thankful. 
I'm grateful, you're worthy 

1179
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:32,300
before. 
I finished up the song, I Gotta 

1180
01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:33,600
Give credit. 
Lord. 

1181
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,100
You help me with my ATM. 
And that's a debit. 

1182
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:39,000
I'm purchasing things. 
Now, I gotta sneak a fetish. 

1183
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:41,000
I'm like, them Pumas over there.
Get it. 

1184
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,700
Look, reddish. 
So whom much is given also 

1185
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:46,000
allowed to fire. 
Your word is gonna say and I 

1186
01:01:46,008 --> 01:01:49,000
gotta press through the flyer. 
The kind of me has messed up, 

1187
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,500
but I still got hired if it's 
your plan, one day, I can hire 

1188
01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:58,300
you. 
You're worthy. 

1189
01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:04,100
I'm grateful. 
You're worthy. 

1190
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,900
You are the reason I'm grateful.
You are worthy. 

1191
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,800
You are worthy.