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Hello folks. 
This is Princess. 

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You are listening to the 
Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.

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Thanks for listening. 
Don't forget to share with your 

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friends. 
That's tough. 

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We're in a very tough spot. 
I think that what we're doing 

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right now is a great benefit and
virtue because it's an end 

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around between this whole 
corrupt informational system, 

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media system. 
We claim to believe in a God who

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spoke the universe into 
existence and literally raised 

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himself from the dead, and yet 
we're not going to believe that 

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anything else exists in the 
spirit realm, even though his 

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word tells us that they do. 
Their bodies weren't permitted 

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to go to sleep like humans do, 
and they weren't permitted to go

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to heaven, so they wander the 
earth. 

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You know, I've seen the eyes 
turn black to unknown tongues 

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being spoken. 
These giants would live way up 

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in the Highland. 
The young Braves, the young men 

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would hide up in the trees and 
wait for one of these 12 footers

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to come walking down the path. 
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kill him and drag him back in 
the village and the village 

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would feast on the body freedom.
Then people start to get 

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weapons, they start to get 
armor, they start to build 

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cities, they start to fortify 
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Now God looks. 
Down and there's violence 

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everywhere. 
The battle, this war that we are

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at is not against each other. 
It's against these 

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principalities and these rulers 
and these archons In the high 

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places, it's. 
Really worthwhile to read the 

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Bible yourself. 
Fear is one of the primary 

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drivers of mind control because 
we have to take every thought 

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captive and resist fear. 
You're going to have a testimony

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that is a justice case against 
the Kingdom of Darkness. 

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Welcome back to the Millennial 
Mustard Seed Podcast. 

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I'm your host, Rod, and thank 
you for being here with me for 

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another awesome episode. 
This is Part 2 with Doctor 

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Robert Rotage. 
We dive into a whole nother set 

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of questions, unique 
perspectives. 

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We get down to the Bible, we 
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we cover some misconceptions, 
and we enjoy ourselves on this 

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unique conversation. 
I really do fire some 

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interesting questions at Doc and
he does an excellent job riding 

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out and giving us some awesome 
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With everything going on in 
today's day and age, I want to 

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remind you guys prayer. 
We need to come together and 

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agree in prayer about who Jesus 
is, what he's done on the cross,

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and to have one spirit, 1 
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I cannot express how important 
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as we agree and assemble. 
As the body of Christ. 

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Let's go. 
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All right. 
Welcome back, everybody. 

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I have the one and only 
returning doctor, Robert Rodich,

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and it's awesome to be back here
with you again, Doc. 

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Thanks for joining me. 
Well, thank you, Rod. 

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Pleasure to be back today. 
Yeah man, I got some cool 

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questions lined up for you. 
I think what we're going to do 

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is just try to touch on what we 
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that we have questions coming 
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There's things that we know are 
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there's so much false 
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there's a lot of really weird 
rabbit holes that people can get

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lost in. 
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and give them a bit of like. 
Some balance like, hey, this is,

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this is a biblical thread, 
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We pray, we're interceding, 
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the word. 
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know, and sometimes it is an 
opinion doc, and sometimes it is

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like, no, this is this is in the
word right here. 

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We did word study and I love 
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So what's happened in the last, 
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talked? 
Anything cool that you just want

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to bring up here real quick? 
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Well, well, Alyssa, yeah, yeah, 
My Iowa Hawkeyes, even though I 

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live in the very southern tip of
Alabama, continue to win with 

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their punter and he's like the 
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And his name is Tori Taylor. 
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beating up on Wisconsin like 15 
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You know so it's more like a 
baseball game. 

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But no, I mean yeah we're we're 
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heaven. 
I have a a really wonderful 

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group of dear friends some I've 
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one is 1. 
Gentleman is is a prophet. 

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He lives in prophet type. 
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now, so we don't really want the
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But he's a seer, so he lives in 
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a dear friend of ours, actually,
that or who's become a dear 

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friend who just moved within 
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where we live in South Alabama. 
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exchanging ideas, you know 
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because it's the scripture says,
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it for what it says instead of 
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says we're supposed to live in 
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So we're we're learning how to 
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So, so we're always engaging to 
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Fascinating. 
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We are called to occupy and and 

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I think it's much more than just
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thumbs until our temporary 
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If right, it gets deep and gets 
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And this will kind of start us 
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But, you know, we talked. 
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the voice, you know analysis and
how you're determining a medical

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condition for for the person and
and spiritual evaluation, right.

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And the accuracy of that and how
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that, what protocols or or what 
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dealing with like an AI, right, 
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So right now we have crazy AI 
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mimic somebody's voice like it. 
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and then it can have. 
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through this person's voice and 
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they call it like the younger 
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apps called TikTok and you can 
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genuine person for example? 
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in that area? 
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a little bit and give us some 
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the interaction between Yahweh, 
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though they're not all called 
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strangely enough they're alluded
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you see God speaking. 
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this. 
Why does scripture tell us to be

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careful what we say? 
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there a frequency that does 
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that is around us? 
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scripture that says judge, not 
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It's real. 
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context is saying, if you throw 
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fully human and you throw words 
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or not, it's going to throw 
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ether that the enemy's going to 
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Almost like witchcraft against 
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you spoke that. 
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frequency, things involved in 
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It can't be just, you know, 
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meaning. 
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my wife and I say I love you 
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sweetie, you catch the tones in 
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numbers would be very weird. 
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right? 
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numbers at all most of the time,
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coming from a human voice. 
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actually check animals using the
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technique that I use, but I use 
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coming off of their body because
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doc, man, I got a stomach ache, 
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something like that, you know, 
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energy which is kind of related 
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language, and I'm not a Hebrew 
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Strong's like everybody else it 
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when you vibration has a hum, 
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that. 
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which most everything I rate is 
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nothing wrong. 
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many. 
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or just be all zeros so I would 
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because I've been able to do 
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Actually I've been able to tell 
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somebody, you know, they lost 
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instance, which makes a real 
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hear the voice. 
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person because of their 
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from their voice, just to do 
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Because they didn't have a 
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distance, so they had to see me 
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So I don't know if that answers 
the question or not, but yeah, I

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would be able to tell if it was 
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tell if there was somehow some 
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Interesting. 
Yeah. 

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I mean. 
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kind of want to follow up real 
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what are your thoughts on like 
if AI, the technology or even an

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individual manufactured bot, 
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So we're seeing these Tesla 
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Arms, we're seeing all the all 
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robots that are being initiated 
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entertainment, you name it, 
they're showing up there. 

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Do you think that any of these? 
Robots that are plugged into the

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artificial intelligence, let's 
just say supercomputer airwave 

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if you will. 
Do you think they can be 

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inhabited by demons or dark 
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Or do you think that they can be
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the enemy? 
What are your thoughts on that? 

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You mean like Jay-Z and Beyoncé,
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I don't know. 
Are they clones? 

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Are they real people? 
I don't. 

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Yeah. 
I don't know. 

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I mean, you know, that's the 
talk on the Internet, right? 

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So, you know, she becomes what? 
What? 

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What does she become? 
Sasha Fierce or something? 

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She says she she becomes. 
So yeah. 

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There's some weird stuff going 
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OK, so so from a biblical 
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back to how mankind was made. 
Why are we even here in the 1st 

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doesn't seem to relate. 
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everything that they're doing is
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Christ in us the hope of glory. 
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you've got to decide what camp 
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believer? 
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a lot because there's some 
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true. 
In fact, a lot of things. 

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You just got your ticket 
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Or do you want to walk in true 
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difference, where you're not 
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going to happen tomorrow or not?
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go. 
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working instead of holed up 
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waiting for Jesus to come in 
1977. 

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And those people, their cars are
aging. 

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They can't get parts for them 
anymore. 

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You know what I'm saying? 
It didn't happen. 

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OK, So what can we do in the 
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How can we occupy so? 
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AI, the real spirit behind AI, 
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disembodied spirits, they have 
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whole quantum computer realm. 
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great detail about that. 
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where's the scripture for that? 
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talks about telephones, you 
know? 

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I mean, is it is Walmart? 
Is is Walmart mentioned in 

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scripture? 
I know, yeah, yeah, you know. 

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So I got to, I got to get a word
before I before I go to Walmart.

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Well, probably these days that's
not a bad idea. 

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You you need to check with the 
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not some craziness going on. 
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than, you know, the the Super 
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that they appear to be. 
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day and that's another story. 
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let's be honest, it's real. 
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sophisticated all the time, but 
the purpose is to replace us. 

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Now why would they want to 
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his cohorts think that if they 
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won't bother to eliminate them 
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fire. 
That's really what's going on. 

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it happen quicker than what was 
on God's timeline, that they can

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beat it. 
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don't know if I mentioned this 
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certain technologies that have 
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realm. 
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supernatural spiritual, the way 
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But they've always been 
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And I mean, the Father sometimes
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has wheels within wheels and 
things like that. 

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I don't even know how to 
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see it personally. 
But I just know that that would 

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be like way cooler than even, 
you know, a 57 Cadillac. 

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You know what I'm saying? 
You know, and so, you know, even

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if it was all St. streets, you 
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And so we in this who are 
Christians with air quotes, you 

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know, we we focus so much on on 
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think about the technological 
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as the spiritual. 
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fell, they were cut off from the
true life source of everything. 

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But for reasons only known to 
Him, the Lord allowed them to 

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still exist in some fashion as 
they became a part of His 

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overall purpose for mankind 
being brought into probably a a 

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more tighter and deeper level of
sonship. 

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Because the Lord seems to like 
to have all of us test our free 

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will to see what kind of 
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So the AI think it's going, it's
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So the question is, do I want to
be one of the the Christians 

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with my ticket to heaven? 
And you know, when they come 

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door to door and put a gun up to
our head, if they do that, I'm 

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just going to sit there and let 
them pop me off. 

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Or am I going to actually get 
ahead of this whole AI 

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technological thing by actually 
becoming the son or daughter of 

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the king who has access to 
incredible heavenly resources 

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and change what can be changed? 
That's what they're really 

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afraid of. 
So they're ramping up their AI 

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thing right there. 
So that would be my answer. 

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Very interesting. 
And you did hint on kind of my 

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next question even just as you 
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cloud realm technology. 
Now that's just a IT. 

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It's a silly term that I kind of
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this. 
I cloud, right? 

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The I cloud realm where it's 
invisible and technology can be 

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stored there and then it can 
interact with our plastic and 

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polymers and gold. 
Constructed devices, computers 

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and cell phones quote, UN quote,
and it can translate this 

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information into. 
I mean, I'm looking at AI apps 

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right now, doc, where you can 
speak into your phone in English

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and it'll do an automatic 
translation into the language of

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your desire right out the other 
end. 

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I'm like. 
Yeah, this is the days we're 

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living in. 
I mean, we've known of this 

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stuff for some time, but just to
see that it's available for 

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like, next day shipping to your 
door. 

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If you're flying out next week 
to Pakistan and need a 

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translator. 
And your translator buddy from 

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college bailed out on you, A is 
got your back, right? 

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That's kind of what's going on 
in today's day, right? 

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Well, what what about this 
ancient realm technology? 

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So, I mean, I asked Dan Duvall 
about this, and he had some 

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fascinating answers. 
In the antediluvian times, do 

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you believe that they had 
ancient realm technology that 

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maybe we're interfacing with 
today? 

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I know that sounds bizarre and 
it sounds out there and some 

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people may say, where's that at 
in the Bible, Rod? 

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And it's like slow down. 
It's actually called Gender 6, 

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but you know whatever, let well 
let's dive into that, whatever 

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your thoughts are on my multi 
layered question if you will. 

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Well, first of all, let me say 
I, I really enjoyed Dan. 

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I've never met him personally. 
I've met a couple people that 

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are like counselors in his 
ministry because they've wanted 

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you know, Wellness and and the 
spiritual testing that I do, the

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three different spiritual tests 
and and they have been all been 

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delightful people for being a 
young guy. 

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I'm just amazed at how the Lord 
talks to him and speaks to him. 

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Because he certainly must have 
more of a seer gifting in order 

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to know all those things. 
Whereas I'm I'm a knower, so I 

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don't get the benefit of seeing 
except for like like in sonar or

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radar which is actually I'm 
getting pretty good at. 

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So I enjoy Dan and and his 
interesting sense of humor. 

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I just sometimes just chuckle 
it. 

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So it's great and there's and 
thankfully there's a lot of 

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other people out there that 
maybe your audience is not quite

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aware of that are doing 
tremendous things for the 

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Kingdom. 
You know, and so we should be 

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supporting them in some way, at 
least praying for them. 

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OK. 
But when it comes to the all the

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technologies, again, you've got 
to go back. 

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And this is what I alluded to 
think about and I don't know, in

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Earth time, you know, if we 
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you know, did Satan fall 3 
billion years ago, 6 billion, 

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because there's not really time 
out there the way that we render

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time here. 
But if we could, it was probably

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a long, long time ago. 
Well, all of the sudden, imagine

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being just for a moment, some 
really wonderfully created 

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being, even if it was kind of a 
lower Angel, you know, in the 

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sense of power and prestige and 
all that, And all of a sudden 

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you are completely cut off from 
the source you were lied to by 

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one of the head angels. 
Who said that? 

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He had his own system and his 
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And then you get out there and 
you fell flat on your face. 

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And, you know, you know, without
that flow from the heart of the 

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father himself, you're you're 
alive. 

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But it's like, what? 
What just happened? 

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This is horrible. 
We didn't know. 

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We can even feel this way. 
That's the kind of thing that 

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they probably realized. 
So like so many other things in.

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Life and creation, they probably
figured, well, we better try to 

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do something about this. 
So let's see if somehow, and you

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know, because the head guy, 
Satan, Lucifer, Halal or 

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whatever his name really was, 
said that we can somehow like 

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rob from different energy 
fields, from different realms 

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and dimensions, and we can try 
to get a lot of this stuff back 

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through technology, well. 
I don't know how deep it goes 

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into other planets, and if there
were beings on other planets, 

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which wouldn't surprise me, but 
we certainly know there's 

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creatures throughout the 
universe, the multiverse, the 

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diverse, whatever it's really is
and how it really pans out in 

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reality. 
Because there were angels and 

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all angels don't look like 
Michael and Gabriel, or like 

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Lucifer did before his fault. 
There's ones that look like 

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Dragons. 
There's ones that are like 

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Transformers in the movies. 
There's some that are what looks

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like glass, but you, you know, 
if you touch it, you'd realize 

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it was the sharpest steel. 
You know, I've seen some of 

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these creatures. 
Everything that we think of in 

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reality in the true spiritual 
realm is so far beyond anything 

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we can imagine that I think if 
we even really had a grasp of 

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it, it would almost take our 
breath away. 

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Now why is it when these? 
Supposedly antediluvian beings 

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that are being held by the 
government on underground bases,

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all locked up with the copper 
bracelets. 

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But people are told not to get 
within so many feet because the 

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electromagnetic field that these
creatures put out would kill a 

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human. 
Well, what kind of creature is 

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that? 
Is angels come near us all the 

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time and they don't kill us so 
obviously? 

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They were trying to get 
technology back so that they 

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could come up with a plan to try
to overthrow God. 

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Wherever they all come from, 
there's still a creator God. 

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They're still in order to 
everything. 

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And most of the time, by the 
time we see it with our natural 

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eyes, it's either some kind of 
an illusion or it's a trick. 

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And I'm talking about from the 
enemy's camp, never from God's 

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camp. 
To try to get us to be in fear 

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so that they can drain our 
energy. 

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Energy's a big deal because they
don't have any. 

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So they had to make all the 
elementals mad and siphon off 

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their energy so that they could 
power their system. 

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You've heard of adrenochrome, 
right? 

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Yeah, of course. 
OK, well guess what? 

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Every time they created trauma, 
we create an energetic 

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adrenochrome. 
That they try to capture, but 

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it's also got our DNA signature 
on it. 

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So who knows what they're doing 
with it. 

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OK, so that's kind of like 
present. 

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But for us to sit here to say 
that once the fall took place, 

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it was just, you know, a few 
people running around calling 

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John the Baptist with, you know,
a woolly little covering on and 

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stuff like that. 
And then Jesus finally showed 

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up. 
And thankfully, we can be saved 

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and restored and regenerated and
all that. 

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No, There was like very, very 
sophisticated stuff. 

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What, you know what they call it
Globe. 

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I can't hardly even say it Globe
badly. 

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Tempe or whatever it's called. 
And Gobekli. 

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Tempe. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, you know, you know the 
stuff in the Peruvian mountains 

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now they're finding whole 
pyramidal cities that have 

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sunken down, you know, after the
biblical flood, you know, in the

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ocean when when all the 
continent shifted and everything

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like that. 
And you know, there's a big 

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pyramid in Bosnia. 
Well, I know about that because 

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my grandparents came from the 
former Yugoslavia, and which 

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made me think about that 
translator thing. 

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I I mean, I can understand a lot
of the language but the 

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translator, that would be so 
cool whether it's a 'cause, you 

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know, it doesn't mean all AI is 
bad, but but anyway, I let let 

449
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me get back to that focus There 
were probably. 

450
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,360
Here's the problem that some of 
the the really strict biblical 

451
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:16,200
timeline folks have is that when
you hear about the stuff that 

452
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,800
happened in India and they talk 
about a war in heaven 15,000 

453
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,840
years ago, well, that you know 
well, that doesn't fit the 6000 

454
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,960
year narrative. 
OK, so nobody. 

455
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,400
In that camp wants to go back 
beyond 6000 years. 

456
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,800
I think it's absolutely absurd 
to think the earth, the earth is

457
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,200
6000 years old. 
Because if you read Genesis one 

458
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,400
one and one two, wait a minute, 
there was a time out somewhere 

459
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,640
along the way from the original 
level of creation. 

460
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,720
Then it was made without void, 
made, you know, without form, 

461
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,400
and it was void. 
And then there's an indication 

462
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,720
that things are recreated, 
setting up for Adam and Eve to 

463
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,960
come. 
Well, what happened before that?

464
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280
Well, they're likely. 
A lot of the things that we're 

465
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,960
seeing are remaining evidence 
from those times. 

466
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,720
Now, what they all did, do, I 
believe there were probably 

467
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,560
Stargates? 
Yes, I do. 

468
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,320
Did they probably go to other 
inhabitable planets? 

469
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:22,800
I mean, I've never been there 
through a Stargate, but I've 

470
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,000
been there in the spirit, and 
this is going to freak some of 

471
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,520
the purists out. 
But I'm sorry. 

472
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,760
You know we're seated with 
Christ Jesus in heavenly places.

473
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,120
That is not a metaphor. 
There is some aspect of our 

474
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:40,160
being that stays with Him 
because he stays with us. 

475
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,760
So for the doubters, study the 
topic called quantum 

476
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,720
entanglement. 
We are quantumly entangled with 

477
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,640
the Savior. 
That's why the second the the 

478
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,280
whole platform of the second 
Adam is so much greater than 

479
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,320
even our original creation. 
It's not even funny because now 

480
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,440
there's higher components that 
were used because of the person 

481
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,120
of Jesus Christ, who, by the 
way, was 1/3 of the Godhead. 

482
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,200
So sorry to the United 
Pentecostals who believe there's

483
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,760
Jesus only it it's it doesn't 
say that in Scripture and it 

484
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,160
doesn't say that in the 
practicality of the design of 

485
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,440
all of creation. 
So just made sorry Rod, I just 

486
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,160
made a whole nother group of 
people upset. 

487
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:36,320
But the reality is, is that I 
wish I could say, Oh yeah, you 

488
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,240
know, I, you know I saw this and
this is the way they did that or

489
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,360
whatever. 
Well. 

490
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,120
Even down in Florida in the 
1930s, there was some guy that 

491
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,000
was that built a shrine out of 
coral, very heavy coral rock or 

492
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,680
blocks and he was moving them 
around on his own with some kind

493
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,160
of a sound device. 
But he never, he never allowed 

494
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,800
that. 
I mean, his neighbor saw what he

495
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,920
was doing, but he never told any
of them how he how he discovered

496
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,360
that and how he did what he did.
And don't even get me going on 

497
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,480
probably somebody that I'm 
related to, a gentleman by the 

498
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:16,160
name of Nikola Tesla, because 
because he was, because he was 

499
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,920
from the same exact region and 
literally the same exact town as

500
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,640
my grandparents. 
And the people that settled in 

501
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:32,920
that area of Croatia in the 
1600s were actually Serbian 

502
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,720
mercenaries. 
Who stopped the the? 

503
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,000
The Turks on behalf of the 
Austro Hungarian Empire. 

504
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,760
And I forget what the name of 
the battle was. 

505
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640
And after they defeated the 
Turks, they stayed there. 

506
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,040
So with the fact that it was a 
mountainous region, it's almost 

507
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,360
impossible that I don't share 
some DNA with Nikola Tesla. 

508
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,000
Now, where he got his stuff, I'm
not going to tell you the Holy 

509
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,240
Spirit showed up and showed him 
all of that stuff, but I'm going

510
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,280
to tell you that, that. 
That old boy knew a whole lot 

511
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,080
more than what most people even 
can think about and which 

512
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,880
explains why I think it was 1945
or 1946 as soon as he passed 

513
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,400
away. 
Which it makes me wonder how the

514
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,320
FBI knew that he'd passed away. 
So that's a different story. 

515
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,800
But they confiscated all of his 
paperwork and and most the most 

516
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,120
of it. 
We don't even know where it is 

517
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,520
to this day. 
So if that's happening in 

518
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,480
basically our lifetime, that was
only seven years before I was 

519
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:40,080
born 7 or 8. 
And what about what was going on

520
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,840
back then? 
Fallen angels who were severed 

521
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,040
from relationship with God 
didn't mean all of the sudden 

522
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,200
they they turned stupid 
overnight. 

523
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,440
Their their their level of 
brilliance would have been way 

524
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,360
beyond even what we presently 
have as humans. 

525
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,880
They could have done stuff that 
would have just blown our minds.

526
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,760
So that's the only way that I 
can answer that because I don't 

527
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,080
have any. 
Yeah, I was over there and 

528
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,280
walked through a stargate and 
ended up, you know, me and me 

529
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,960
and Kurt Russell ended up on 
this like Egyptian kind of 

530
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,280
planet. 
I don't have a testimony like 

531
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,800
that. 
But it doesn't mean that I can't

532
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,000
look at what's been left behind 
and go, oh, they really knew 

533
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,960
something. 
Yeah, yeah. 

534
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,080
I mean, it's been one of my 
continual themes to just 

535
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,520
encourage the audience. 
And I do this for myself as the 

536
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,320
years go on, just to slow down. 
We pray about everything, right?

537
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,280
So if we hear something, if 
we're reading something, if, if,

538
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,000
if it's a new type of, you know,
whatever, there's Rhema there. 

539
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,440
The words are jumping out of the
book for you for the first time 

540
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,880
while reading through whatever 
book of the Bible you're in, and

541
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,200
it never did that before. 
You're getting an answer right 

542
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,920
there. 
But but if you're in a dry 

543
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,520
season, you're hearing things 
that kind of like that has to go

544
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,960
in the back burner. 
Where does that piece together? 

545
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,640
It's very wise to slow down and 
pray about everything. 

546
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,920
So I just wanted to reaffirm 
that for the audience. 

547
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,800
And I'm really enjoying this 
part too. 

548
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Here man the the whole Nikola 
Tesla thing. 

549
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,760
One of my favorite quotes that I
can't re quote exactly Doc but 

550
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,320
it's something along the lines 
if you want to understand the 

551
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,600
secrets of the universe think in
form of vibration and frequency.

552
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,800
Something along those lines is 
how he words and and then with 

553
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,240
like, you know, Albert 
Einstein's research with the 

554
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,240
spooky action at a distance, 
with this quantum entanglement 

555
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,840
and just how some of the minds 
that most of society is aware of

556
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,560
have somehow interacted with the
revelation of understanding the 

557
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:54,000
intelligent design around us and
how bizarre things get when you 

558
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,400
really start to look, especially
in the quantum field. 

559
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,640
I think a lot of scientists that
that are considered to be 

560
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,320
quantum physicists, a lot of 
them end up committing suicide 

561
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,320
or going crazy. 
I mean there, there there's some

562
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,520
conspiracy in there and there's 
some inflated stories. 

563
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,280
But there is some reality to the
fact that even some of the human

564
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,560
minds that tick very well in 
certain areas of comprehension 

565
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,000
and expansion of these ideas 
can't handle some of the 

566
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,920
realities they come in in with. 
And I think that this is where 

567
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:28,320
God has designed us as body soul
spirit right and and the 

568
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,000
scripture say things like love 
the Lord your God with your mind

569
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,199
your heart your body like all of
us like and then we talked you 

570
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,840
talked earlier about just the 
power of the tongue right. 

571
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:45,120
So just the spoken power of our 
words and and how that really 

572
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,280
the the illegals, right, the 
dark entities who are, they 

573
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,719
understand the courtroom of 
heaven. 

574
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,320
They understand the legalities 
of our words. 

575
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,920
They understand a lot of this 
stuff. 

576
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,880
So there's so many deep 
multifaceted things going on 

577
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,480
here that yeah. 
As Christians back to the basics

578
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,960
you guys. 
We preach the gospel. 

579
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,080
We're being discipled as we're 
making disciples and we 

580
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,960
understand, right. 
We're in a battle. 

581
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,720
But just because we're aware of 
the basics and we proceed in 

582
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:21,480
those areas does not mean we 
neglect that which is of the 

583
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,320
ecclesia of God that has these 
revelations that line up 

584
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,800
scripturally and and the deeper 
that we can go it's the better 

585
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,880
for our protection. 
And sometimes minds work like 

586
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,880
mine, doc where I I have no 
academia. 

587
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,760
I I'm not impressive in any 
which way. 

588
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,760
I'm the guy next door. 
I have calluses on my hands. 

589
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,960
I've been working tough jobs 
most of my life. 

590
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,840
I've been rejected by just 
about, I don't know every system

591
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,960
and person I've come up against 
in the world scheme most of my 

592
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,800
life. 
But my brain works in a way 

593
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,440
where I'll be reading and and 
things will jump for me. 

594
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,120
And I keep asking questions. 
Resilience, right? 

595
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,480
Like I'm just determined and 
that's OK, there's a place for 

596
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,480
me. 
Obviously it's here on my show, 

597
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,520
but I I don't like when people 
try to restrict those things 

598
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,600
which are helpful to the body of
Christ like what we're doing 

599
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,720
today. 
So I think that This is why it's

600
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,600
fascinating, Doc, to pick your 
brain and hear what you have to 

601
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,040
say. 
Just mind boggling. 

602
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,320
I'm talking too much. 
Let me ask a question or unless 

603
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,280
you want. 
To respond. 

604
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,160
But listen, you were on A roll, 
man. 

605
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,560
We could end the program right 
now. 

606
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,280
I mean, you like, nailed it. 
OK? 

607
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,680
So I'm just being honest with 
you, but let let me speak to to 

608
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:38,040
to those who really, really love
the Lord and are not operating 

609
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:44,160
out of a religious spirit, OK? 
And then let's in a good way 

610
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,680
refer a little bit to those that
do operate in religious spirit, 

611
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,760
OK? 
Because they need to come out of

612
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,960
that. 
Why do we think that the God who

613
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,320
created everything has to always
have his principles of 

614
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,920
operation? 
Be a mystery. 

615
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,840
Why is there not a fabric of 
creation for every realm and 

616
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:11,000
dimension that operates in our 
way of thinking, but on a 

617
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,600
heavenly basis with computer 
programming that has numbers and

618
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,840
sequences and that's what gives 
that realm? 

619
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,920
Its definition, that's what 
causes the level of gravity to 

620
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,560
work the way that it does the 
beings to interact. 

621
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,760
And you know, some realms, maybe
they don't even have to talk and

622
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,680
it should. 
They just broadcast the thoughts

623
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080
back and forth. 
Well, that's because in the 

624
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,320
fabric of that realm or 
dimension, that's the way God 

625
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,040
designed it. 
Well then we see all this other 

626
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,120
stuff that the enemy's doing and
we and we see that's, listen, 

627
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,520
that's just a knock off. 
Now let me give you an example. 

628
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,360
It's really hard to do this now,
but I had a sister that lived in

629
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,760
South Texas. 
So gosh, she moved down there 

630
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,240
and taught school for years and 
years and she's still that. 

631
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,680
She moved back down recently, 
actually from the Midwest back 

632
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,040
down there. 
But we used to be able to cross 

633
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:09,000
over into Mexico and for like 
$20 we would buy these literally

634
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,560
genuine looking Rolex watches. 
Now this is going back 30 years.

635
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,760
Well, the only difference is 
some of them ticked and some of 

636
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,000
them were perpetual. 
The perpetual ones, even the 

637
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,280
Jewelers couldn't tell the 
difference until they tore them 

638
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,440
apart. 
OK, well, I I got a big kick out

639
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,360
of it because on a pastor 
salary, I thought it was pretty 

640
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,840
cool to be able to wear a Rolex 
and not have to pay like 15 or 

641
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,080
$20,000 for it, if you catch my 
drift. 

642
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,840
Well, we call those knockoffs 
and they're harder to get now. 

643
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,480
I don't get down in that area of
the country much anymore. 

644
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,720
But who's to say that Satan 
doesn't have just a bunch of 

645
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:51,280
knockoffs? 
Everything is his version of a 

646
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,280
knockoff. 
God tells the truth. 

647
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,600
He tells the knockoff, which is 
mostly a lie, but with just 

648
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,320
enough truth to try to draw 
people in. 

649
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,080
You see? 
You see how all that works? 

650
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,560
Well, we need to all grow up and
put our big boy and big girl 

651
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,680
pants on. 
And realize that part of the 

652
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,720
entire level of warfare waged 
against true believers, whether 

653
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:21,440
you're bound by just the 
religious thing or you know 

654
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,680
you're you're more open to the 
real truth of the fullness of 

655
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:30,760
God, we need to realize that 
this is all about eliminating 

656
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,720
us. 
That's what the global elites 

657
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,440
are trying to do. 
That's why they've poisoned our 

658
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,480
food. 
That's why they've poisoned our 

659
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:44,200
our educational system. 
That's why they're shooting mRNA

660
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,880
into meat. 
They're doing it all because 

661
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,800
they no longer want us to have 
the capacity to reflect the 

662
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,880
image of the Son of God. 
And it's not just to be saved, 

663
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,640
Rod. 
It's because. 

664
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:06,040
In the second, Adam is so much 
of A higher relationship 

665
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:12,120
possibility, which is strange to
say than even the first Adam had

666
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,280
because it was more functional 
even though it was spiritual. 

667
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,520
And they are afraid that we wake
up to full bona fide released 

668
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,360
sonship. 
Because when we start being 

669
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,120
able, with our words in our 
presence, to release the fire in

670
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,520
the glory and the Kratos power, 
it not only shakes up everything

671
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,120
that they do, it has the ability
to shop, stop machinery in its 

672
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,000
place. 
It has the ability to change 

673
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,800
even reality to a certain point,
not in a bad way, but to mess 

674
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,160
with everything that the enemy 
has set up to eliminate us. 

675
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,240
So all the other stuff is just 
what they've done to fill in, go

676
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,880
right to the top. 
What I just said is what's 

677
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,400
really happening. 
And I don't care if it's a Gray 

678
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,120
tall or a medium tall or a 
little stubby short, you know, 

679
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,960
not so tall Gray when they're 
all a part of the whole scheme, 

680
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,560
so. 
Precisely. 

681
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,000
So that's what we have. 
We have to just grow up in this 

682
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,480
and say OK, if because we can at
some point, maybe in a future 

683
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,920
podcast, we can talk about how 
the body, soul and spirit really

684
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,520
look. 
And interestingly enough, we 

685
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,400
were recently in an engagement 
where the Lord showed us that he

686
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,560
actually made Adam's soul 1st 
and then his body. 

687
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,400
We saw we saw it in real time. 
Now there is no life there and 

688
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,160
I'm not going to go into that 
now, but we are a real, clear 

689
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,000
and present danger to the enemy 
on every level. 

690
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,800
So he wants to keep us stupid. 
Oh yeah. 

691
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,520
I mean, I couldn't agree more on
that. 

692
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,720
And just as you were talking, 
one, the two things that I was 

693
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:02,360
getting hit with is. 
It is God who works in and 

694
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,040
through us to cause His will to 
come about. 

695
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,760
So of course the enemy wants a 
false or synthetic system in 

696
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,160
place because we're like, at any
point in time a smoking gun, 

697
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,640
right? 
If we're obedient to God and 

698
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,120
we're in relationship with Him, 
it's. 

699
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,880
I call it an L So I was out 
doing St. 

700
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,760
Ministry not too long ago near 
Allentown, PA. 

701
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,480
And as I was talking with the 
young brother and the Lord, I'm 

702
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,600
saying think of it as an L 
because it's a loss for the 

703
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,040
enemy. 
I said if God is pouring some 

704
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,880
type of power or Rhema or just 
revelation or or resurrection 

705
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,800
power, you name authority power 
down into you and then out of 

706
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,760
your belly towards. 
Who you're dealing with, it's it

707
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,640
makes like AL, right? 
And I said remember that bro, 

708
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,840
because that's that's a loss for
the enemy. 

709
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,360
When that happens and they were 
smiling, they're like bro, that 

710
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,360
is powerful, right? 
And I'm like, well this is the 

711
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,400
thing. 
The enemy doesn't want us and 

712
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,280
they want us sucked into 
technology, systematically 

713
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,880
desensitized to the reality of 
what's going on. 

714
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,120
They want us over entertained. 
I've been saying since day one, 

715
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,640
We're almost at five years for 
this podcast. 1,000,000 messages

716
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,800
and a million signals that cause
confusion and chaos. 

717
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,280
Let's take this journey together
and discovering ultimate truth, 

718
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,960
right? 
Let's use our own critical 

719
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,920
minds. 
Let's read the Bible and let's 

720
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,680
pray in secret. 
And Doc, everything you're 

721
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,160
saying is just, it compounds and
it builds. 

722
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,520
And really what we're doing is 
we're targeting, you know, a 

723
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,640
section of. 
Audience and and people that 

724
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,480
maybe some of them on the teeter
totter of Well, is any of this 

725
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,040
information important? 
Because should I just be going 

726
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,840
door to door telling people 
about the gospel? 

727
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,280
You don't stop doing that. 
But you also tell people with 

728
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,840
your life you just like when the
fisherman. 

729
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,320
They're like, hey, these guys 
clearly were with the Lord 

730
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,000
because they're uneducated 
fisherman. 

731
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,680
It's like they they were 
speaking that out in the essence

732
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,640
of their life, their ability, 
the power that God was giving 

733
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,200
them, the presence that they 
carried. 

734
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:04,880
All of it includes the goodness 
of what God can do and is doing 

735
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,480
and will continue to do and I 
think once we open up our. 

736
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,960
Our spectrum a little bit. 
We can stop doing this because 

737
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,000
Christians right now are arguing
with Christians doc. 

738
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,520
And that's something that drives
me nuts. 

739
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,760
I'm like you guys already missed
the point a while ago. 

740
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,000
If we're arguing like it's 
different to have a debate or be

741
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,720
like please show me where that 
is or I'm a student of the word 

742
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,880
so so let let's take this 
journey together in humility. 

743
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,840
Let's pray about this. 
Let's read about that There's a 

744
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,240
difference between that and 
straight up arguing. 

745
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,800
So it just well. 
Let me give you let me give you 

746
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,280
an example of that that came 
from a nine year old seer who I 

747
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,680
love. 
His name is Ben. 

748
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,440
Ben in his because you know, we 
can do everything either through

749
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,400
Zoom or you know through phone 
calls now. 

750
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,240
And you know how the scripture 
in several different places just

751
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,160
tell tells us to test the 
spirits? 

752
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,960
You run into an Angel, you say, 
who do you serve? 

753
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,800
Well, if they don't say, of 
course, Jesus Christ. 

754
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,320
He's my Lord and savior and I 
give him praise and worship and 

755
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,160
honor. 
Well, then it might be a bad 

756
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,440
guy. 
Well we're we're visiting with 

757
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,560
Ben and Ben and so his mom asked
him, Ben, how do you know that? 

758
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,840
Like what you see is like a good
being or whatever. 

759
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,720
And he said, well, I read the 
registry this kids nine. 

760
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:28,000
I barely use the word registry 
and I have two doctors and his 

761
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,760
mom says, well what do you mean?
He said, well I go and I read 

762
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,080
their registry and if they've 
done things that are clearly 

763
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,440
Kingdom and good things, I know 
it's from the Lord's camp. 

764
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:44,320
OK, so here you have a lot of 
Christians out there who, 

765
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,200
because they're afraid that they
might run into a bad guy, don't 

766
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,240
even acknowledge the good guys. 
And here you've got an innocent 

767
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:57,680
9 year old who has things 
figured out already. 

768
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,200
It's like, OK, people, we need 
to be embarrassed here. 

769
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,720
Let's just be honest. 
We need to be embarrassed. 

770
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,200
A nine year old can figure this 
thing out, or some of it. 

771
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:14,440
And and we're still wondering is
this of God, Oh my goodness, I 

772
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,000
just had to throw that in, you 
know? 

773
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,840
I mean, you know, but anyway, 
you had a. 

774
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,440
Question. 
No. 

775
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,560
Yeah, that was definitely good 
stuff. 

776
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,240
I was thinking and and and I 
forget. 

777
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:27,280
I think it started on an 
interview where I've been I've 

778
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,640
been getting interviewed on 
other people shows now so which 

779
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,680
is nowhere for me a little bit 
interesting. 

780
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,400
But I had this connection where 
I'm like you know what the 

781
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,600
fallen heavenly host the 
regional principalities and 

782
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,520
powers. 
I have this suspicion that they 

783
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:48,000
are OK with Wednesdays and 
Sundays for the corporate church

784
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,120
gathering here in the West. 
And I'm I just kept feeling 

785
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,920
like. 
There's something going on where

786
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,640
they have more resistance in the
Airways and as I started talking

787
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,880
with people Doc, what happens is
most of the arguments and the 

788
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,360
major battles that'll take 
place, marital or or the 

789
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,360
function of the house or even 
just other unexpected things 

790
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,560
that are going wrong are 
hindering people from having 

791
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,640
clarity of mind and lifestyle 
worship, especially on the 

792
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,760
Sundays. 
Does that do anything for your 

793
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,880
mind? 
If you want to do a lot of 

794
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,520
damage, you try to get people 
together in a group, or at least

795
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,160
have them on the way to be in a 
group. 

796
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:30,360
And that's not to say that they 
go to church and then they go 

797
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,560
walk into this cauldron of evil 
and so on and so forth, because 

798
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,760
there's a lot of really 
wonderful churches. 

799
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:42,480
But then there's also a lot of 
these churches that have become 

800
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,960
so user friendly, and some of 
them have thousands of members 

801
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,560
and satellite churches, and they
don't want to hurt anybody's 

802
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,920
feelings. 
And I and I don't want to hurt 

803
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,160
anybody's feelings either. 
But there's a difference between

804
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,800
speaking truth and plainly 
versus just being plain rude and

805
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,480
mean. 
OK. 

806
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:05,240
And so again, what that speaks 
to me of is that they see 

807
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:08,600
things. 
Electromagnetically, they see 

808
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:14,080
things, even spiritually to a 
point that we don't see unless 

809
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,320
we're allowing ourselves to be 
tuned by the Holy Spirit into 

810
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,880
the spirit realm. 
And they don't care, just like 

811
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,600
you. 
So really, honestly, and 

812
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,200
perfectly said before, they 
don't care if we know about the 

813
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,400
courts or not. 
They would prefer that we 

814
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,080
didn't. 
But they know the legalities and

815
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,160
they don't use ignorance as an 
excuse to hammer people left and

816
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,440
right. 
They do what they do. 

817
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,640
They operate very well in what 
they do. 

818
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,800
But they don't just see. 
Here's here's one of the things 

819
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,640
that we've got to get over. 
They don't just come against us 

820
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,840
and do warfare well. 
The purpose of warfare is to 

821
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,720
destroy something. 
OK, let's, you know, like let's 

822
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,920
take a World War One or two 
movie. 

823
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,840
And Can you imagine the guy 
saying, hey, we're just going to

824
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,720
shoot, you know, over at the 
Nazis? 

825
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,560
And the Nazis say, hey, we're 
going to shoot at the Americans 

826
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,600
and the British, but let's not 
hand anybody, Let's just play 

827
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,200
war. 
That's not what they did. 

828
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:22,040
I had two uncles in in World War
2 and 3 uncles and, well, 2 

829
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,640
uncles and my dad in the Korean 
War. 

830
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,280
They weren't playing games. 
They were trying to win. 

831
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,480
And we need to realize that this
battle that we're in is very, 

832
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:41,800
very fierce and that it's real. 
And it's up to us to get through

833
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:47,040
spiritual boot camp and then get
out there and operate in some 

834
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,280
level of expertise, Which is why
it doesn't matter whether you 

835
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,800
have all these fancy degrees and
different things. 

836
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:57,320
If you've got a heart for God 
and and a mind to ask questions,

837
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,640
he's going to connect up to you.
And he's going to reveal the 

838
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,640
portion of the whole picture to 
you that you that is written 

839
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,960
down on a book that you signed 
up to before you even came here.

840
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Now that just made a bunch of 
people mad, too, because they 

841
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,640
think that we only existed the 
moment that we were put in our 

842
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,120
mother's womb. 
Except there are scriptures that

843
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,280
say I knew you before you were 
in your mother's room. 

844
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,960
Oh no, that's just because God 
knows everything and and you 

845
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,240
were in his mind. 
No, actually, we he knew that 

846
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,160
person. 
And so dig into your Bible and 

847
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,280
figure it out. 
OK, so I don't know if that 

848
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,680
answers the entire question 
because obviously it doesn't 

849
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,720
speak directly to the point of, 
hey, they almost prefer us to 

850
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:43,000
have what? 
You know, maybe there's 

851
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,320
something interesting about 
Wednesday and Sunday that's 

852
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,800
different than other days of the
week. 

853
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,520
So my work around for that is I 
have worship every day. 

854
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,560
I go to church every day. 
Now lately I've been on a 

855
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,000
podcast almost every day or or 
some kind of a zoom call or 

856
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,040
something and some of them are 
church like and and others 

857
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,960
others are informational like 
yours and and or fascinating 

858
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:11,560
some as well as yours is. 
And so just worship him every 

859
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,760
moment of the day, all the time 
and don't have the same routine 

860
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,200
all the time and you'll really 
mess with the enemy's mind, 

861
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,640
would be my answer because yeah,
I mean, how many couples were 

862
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,480
arguing and then, you know, I 
pastored for 30 years. 

863
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,440
I'm aware of this. 
They they they they argued on 

864
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,000
the way to church and then as 
soon as they get out of the car,

865
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:35,120
there goes that that smile. 
How's everything, Brother Jones 

866
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,840
and Sister Jones. 
Oh, just wonderful, Brother 

867
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,480
Rodich. 
When when they were literally 

868
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,720
tearing each other's throats out
on the way to church. 

869
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,040
No, not everybody. 
Not everybody yet, but that's 

870
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,000
what I can't stand. 
Yeah, that drives me nuts. 

871
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,040
And and that keeps me out of the
building a lot of the times 

872
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,440
because to me the church is the 
body people. 

873
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,760
It's two or more three are 
gathered in his name and then 

874
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,320
and now we start, we're actually
having church. 

875
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:04,120
But I love what your points are 
on that, and I think all of us 

876
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,640
really, 'cause if we're going to
be real with ourselves, as many 

877
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,960
people as I've talked with, 
they're aware of this and that's

878
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,400
a turn off for them to come to 
The Gathering, which if little 

879
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,040
minor things like that that are 
in the front line where it's 

880
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,880
like. 
There's something wrong with the

881
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,120
person judging the church for 
that reason. 

882
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,280
But this ecclesia, this body of 
believers, we also have a better

883
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,040
duty. 
We really need to tighten up 

884
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,600
some things and actually be 
legit in our walk. 

885
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,480
And I think what you're doing 
Doc and the information you're 

886
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,640
bringing. 
Is what takes some of us into 

887
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,640
those deep dives into 
relationship, into study. 

888
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,440
And now we start having this 
accountability. 

889
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,000
Now we're washing our mind in 
deeper places because we're 

890
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,680
we're spending less time doing 
that which the world would 

891
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,960
occupy us with. 
Let me drop a question here, 

892
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,160
Doc, because we could keep going
layers and layers deep in in 

893
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,120
these areas and I know it's 
edifying and helpful, but this 

894
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,880
is one that I've hinted at over 
the last couple years, OK. 

895
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,800
And it's going to be the 
frequency of organic materials 

896
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,520
versus inorganic materials. 
So I think it's Leviticus 19. 

897
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,920
If we go read it, it's, you 
know, some law stuff where God 

898
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,600
is saying do not mix your cattle
with, right. 

899
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,200
Don't mix a horse with a cow 
when you plant your plants, 

900
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,560
allot them for a separation, 
don't mingle them with it in 

901
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,600
each other. 
And then he says do not mix your

902
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,920
linen and your wool. 
And it's like, OK, So I had 

903
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,320
asked around about this and. 
Most pastors were saying, oh, 

904
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,440
that's because God wanted to 
separate these people, got his 

905
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,560
people from the rest of the the 
world, right? 

906
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,000
And I'm like, yes, but it's 
always multi layered. 

907
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,560
It's always so much more than 
that. 

908
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,640
That's the elementary answer, 
right? 

909
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,800
So I'm like, I'm digging in and 
digging this back in 2019. 

910
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,440
Actually, I I know the answer, 
but keep on 'cause it's I love 

911
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,400
how you're setting it up. 
Yeah, just this kind of like the

912
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,760
little story of how the Holy 
Spirit was tugging me and the 

913
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,400
reason I wanted. 
Explain this is because some of 

914
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,640
you out there on these other 
exploits, you're on these other 

915
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,760
journeys, you're on these other 
revelations and this is what 

916
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,360
makes you fall in love with the 
word. 

917
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,720
And I want to water that for for
different listeners out there. 

918
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:13,800
So I'm like something's going on
here. 

919
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,240
I feel the tug right, doc And 
I'm like, well, let's look into 

920
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,760
it. 
And then I find a secular Doctor

921
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,880
Who's talking about the the 
energy output, the frequency of 

922
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,920
organic materials, and then he 
eventually covers. 

923
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,360
Flax, linen and wool and other 
organic materials. 

924
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,480
And then I'm like fascinating. 
So it has an energy output and 

925
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,840
then I'll start looking at the 
energy output of the surface of 

926
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,720
the skin, which is the largest 
organ on the body. 

927
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,160
And I'm going, this is 
fascinating. 

928
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:46,000
I'm digging through how many 
times a holy man is talked about

929
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,600
in the in the Bible having white
linens on. 

930
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,440
Or white wool. 
And I'm going almost every 

931
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,920
single time we see a holy man we
see an angelic figure and and 

932
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,800
I'm just adding it up, we're 
over 50 times and I'm not even 

933
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,920
all the way through the Old 
Testament and I'm like this is 

934
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,320
fascinating. 
Well, guess we could. 

935
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,680
We could go on for a lot of 
programs and just this alone 

936
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,440
dude, I'm telling. 
You I think we're going to. 

937
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,520
I know with with a tight 
timeline for this one as we get 

938
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,520
ready to close out in like a 10 
minute window. 

939
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,320
What I want to do is also leave 
a cliffhanger dock. 

940
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,080
I want you to start diving into 
this a little bit, but I want 

941
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,520
you to leave a cliffhanger 
because this is a high demand 

942
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,680
topic in my personal life. 
I haven't broadcasted too much 

943
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,560
on this. 
And then we're also going to 

944
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,880
gateway into your third 
appearance with this guy. 

945
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,240
So let's leave a little bit of a
cliffhanger, but help us out 

946
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:32,880
here. 
Let me see. 

947
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,040
Let me see if I can successfully
do this. 

948
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,120
First of all, here's a question 
that I have to ask to our fellow

949
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,760
believers. 
If New Age people, because you 

950
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,920
know, as soon as something 
doesn't fit our understanding, 

951
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,080
oh, it's New Age. 
And somehow we're all New Age 

952
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,720
experts, even though we don't 
have a clue what New Age really 

953
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:56,520
is, which it's just a branch of 
the whole bigger picture on the 

954
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,000
dark side that we're getting, 
that that we're talking about. 

955
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,080
But not all New Age people are 
stupid. 

956
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,600
They really are looking into 
things. 

957
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,720
What they don't have is a 
regenerated soul with Christ at 

958
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:15,000
the center of their being. 
But it doesn't mean that they 

959
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:21,040
won't look into things like 
linen and wool and non you know,

960
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,400
things that are not genetically 
modified and things like that 

961
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:30,000
and they can find answers. 
So what we do with our hyper 

962
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,800
spirituality is if if a new age 
type group actually discovers 

963
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,560
universal truth, we have to 
throw that universal truth out 

964
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,120
because it was discovered by 
somebody from the new age. 

965
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:49,880
You see how problematic that is?
OK, so if a new ager and myself 

966
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:55,680
were standing at the top of the 
tower of Pisa, leaning as it may

967
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:02,280
be, and we both decided to jump 
down without a word from God, 

968
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,920
would we both not probably be in
trouble by the time we hit the 

969
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,360
ground? 
We we're fighting against 

970
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,960
something at that point called 
gravity. 

971
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,160
It applies to the new Ager. 
It applies to the Satanist. 

972
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,920
It applies to the believer. 
OK, well, the fact of the matter

973
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:26,680
is, when we eat food, it's not 
the slimy substance that we 

974
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,280
chew. 
And then it's digested and and 

975
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,960
and then it comes out the other 
end by itself just by virtue 

976
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,000
that it was broccoli or 
cauliflower or something that 

977
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,040
all the sudden energizes us. 
Our body is set up by the 

978
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,760
creator God to break everything 
down with different enzymes and 

979
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,640
and and hydrochloric acid so 
that it's broken down South 

980
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,480
finely. 
And then these little villi 

981
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,440
through the digestive tract soak
in micronutrients that are then 

982
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,560
broken down to the base to speak
to our cells and to feed our 

983
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,520
bloodstream in that base, 
believe it or not, is a 

984
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,840
frequency. 
OK, so that's how it works. 

985
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,120
That's the poor man's version, 
but that's how it works. 

986
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,520
Well, we have frequencies around
us. 

987
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,920
I mean, even when I was a kid, 
they had AM and FM radio. 

988
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,680
Well, I go back far enough that 
we, if we had enough money, we 

989
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,440
bought a little crystal radio 
set and tried to just get the 

990
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,880
local top 40s channel, you know,
and at those times it was, you 

991
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,480
know, Elvis and The Four Seasons
and all that kind of stuff. 

992
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,960
Well, guess what? 
Those frequencies were going 

993
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,760
through us. 
They didn't just go around us, 

994
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,120
they went through US. 
Interesting. 

995
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,240
Well, help us, Lord Jesus, but 
we've got a lot more than just 

996
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,440
AM and FM in shortwave going 
through us now. 

997
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,360
We've got microwaves, we've got 
stuff from satellites, we've got

998
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,920
things that that we don't even 
know about, probably because 

999
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,240
technology that we know about is
usually decades behind what 

1000
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,440
they're really using. 
OK, well clothing is the same 

1001
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:14,040
way, but it works both ways. 
When we received the essence of 

1002
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,800
a revelation or the Holy Spirit 
speaks to us, now we have Christ

1003
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,480
in us. 
We have the Holy Spirit being 

1004
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,080
stationed on planet earth to 
lead us and guide us into all 

1005
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,320
truth. 
So that's Bible. 

1006
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:31,680
But if you mix those things, it 
actually draws our energy down 

1007
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,240
and creates and and I go back to
the crystal radio, How did you 

1008
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,160
know you were on a channel? 
Because in between the channels 

1009
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:45,080
there were static. 
Well, the enemy for sure wants 

1010
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,520
us to operate in static most of 
the time. 

1011
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,920
So I would challenge your, your 
listeners to say to this, do you

1012
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,520
walk around a lot of times 
feeling like you're in a funk or

1013
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,760
you know you continually walk 
from 1:00 room to another and 

1014
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,920
somebody says one word and then 
you have to go back to the room 

1015
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,240
that you came from to figure out
what it was that you walked out 

1016
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,160
of it to get? 
Well, that happens to all of us 

1017
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,800
from time to time, but a lot of 
it has to do with the way 

1018
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,320
clothing is made, the food that 
we eat. 

1019
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,320
Oh my goodness. 
You know, why does bee venom or 

1020
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:26,120
whatever it is, cells or DNA or 
something, need to be in corn? 

1021
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,320
Well, brother, because then you 
don't have to have all the 

1022
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,840
pesticides. 
And we can call it organic. 

1023
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,920
Really. 
It's organic. 

1024
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,320
If I'm eating part of a bee and 
you know, now they're trying to 

1025
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,680
get us to to eat grasshoppers 
and stuff, well, technically we 

1026
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,320
can if you go back to the Bible 
and see what we can eat. 

1027
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,160
But. 
But I don't want a flour made 

1028
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,840
from crickets. 
You know, I have a hard enough 

1029
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,800
time with gluten. 
I don't need something made from

1030
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,320
crickets. 
So everything is about getting 

1031
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,520
our frequencies out of sync 
because God still tunes with 

1032
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,760
frequency. 
And if you and if you're 

1033
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,800
wondering about that, have you 
ever been in a really, really 

1034
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,760
great worship service? 
I mean, one of those that they 

1035
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,000
weren't just playing some latest
song that somebody invented, but

1036
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,520
you could hear it resonating 
with heaven. 

1037
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,800
You could feel it. 
It was penetrating your 

1038
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,200
innermost to your innermost 
being, and you knew that 

1039
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,600
something special was happening.
All of that has a frequency 

1040
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,600
component. 
How exactly does God heal? 

1041
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,560
Well, brother, his presence and 
the anointing comes. 

1042
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,480
Well, guess what? 
Presence and anointing has 

1043
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,600
frequencies, and they're very 
specific. 

1044
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,440
We just didn't know the the 
channel God was broadcasting on 

1045
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,560
his presence. 
You know when when Enoch walks 

1046
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:58,120
into a room, there's this, the 
guy's loaded with frequencies. 

1047
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,000
You know why, 'cause he still 
has his body, and that's the 

1048
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:07,360
only way he can exist in heaven.
So I'm not going to, you know, 

1049
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,960
'cause like I said, we can 
really, especially if you've got

1050
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,360
the great questions, We can 
really talk about this. 

1051
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:17,080
But I see the effects. 
There is so much negative, and I

1052
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,960
don't mean negativity just with 
words. 

1053
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,440
That's bad enough. 
So be careful who or what you 

1054
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,160
talk about. 
Even if you don't like somebody,

1055
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,280
bless them. 
Even if you're selfish. 

1056
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,120
Bless them, so you don't get 
hammered on. 

1057
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,880
I I know that sounds silly, but 
I'm telling you a truth here. 

1058
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,440
This whole atmosphere and the 
different dimensions that we 

1059
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,880
walk in is way, way more 
interactive than we could 

1060
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,240
possibly know right now. 
So when God says something in 

1061
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,680
Scripture, it's just not so he 
set the Jews apart. 

1062
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:59,360
That truth works for everybody. 
It's just so happens that he had

1063
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:04,240
his own family. 
Well, God has Israel, Jesus has 

1064
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,280
us, And the Holy Spirit's having
a good time trying to get 

1065
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,200
through our thick heads because 
it's His job to lead us and 

1066
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,720
guide us All in all truth. 
And then I'll leave you with 

1067
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,000
this little teaser. 
Whether we get to it next week 

1068
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,640
or not, I don't know. 
But when God made Adam, He made 

1069
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,800
He made Adam's soul. 
First, we're all familiar with 

1070
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,680
something called the silver cord
or the silver strand, because 

1071
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,640
when it's broken, we no longer 
live. 

1072
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,360
Our spirit leaves our body, and 
then we go one place or the 

1073
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,840
other, right? 
Well, it appears that the 

1074
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:43,800
material that God made Adam 
from, first there was a silver 

1075
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:50,880
translucent kind of liquid that 
came from the earth to to settle

1076
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,320
in with the figure of a man from
the handprint that God made in 

1077
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,920
the ground and then the flesh 
from the earth formed around it.

1078
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:08,200
Well, the battle that really 
takes place in US and around us 

1079
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:15,760
is all focused on our soul. 
The soul is what can be 

1080
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,520
fractured, the soul what is what
can be cloned. 

1081
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,280
Some people even say that they 
can capture it. 

1082
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,040
I don't think they really can 
fully capture a person's soul, 

1083
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,160
but they might capture aspects 
of it. 

1084
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,280
All of that we need to wise up 
and we're trying to figure all 

1085
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,560
this stuff out. 
And thankfully the Book of 

1086
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,600
Daniel, I believe we're in the 
part. 

1087
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,200
I want to say Chapter 7, but I 
could be a little off on that, 

1088
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,880
where he was told to seal up the
what he had seen. 

1089
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,960
And by the way, Paul actually 
makes reference to that He saw 

1090
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:56,200
things that he didn't have words
in language to be able to 

1091
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,040
describe that he had seen in 
heaven. 

1092
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:04,960
Well, if Daniel saw things and 
Paul saw things and the prophets

1093
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,520
saw things in the spirit realm, 
why is it just them? 

1094
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,000
So who was it that came up with 
the big lie that said, well, we 

1095
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,640
just needed, and I'm telling 
you, it's a huge lie, that we 

1096
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:22,640
just needed all the supernatural
stuff to get the church started.

1097
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,800
And then we're now that we have 
the book. 

1098
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,440
Well, to show you how silly that
is, first of all, in a lot of 

1099
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,960
places it's not even translated 
in English to the depth of what 

1100
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,000
it really is. 
It's true as far as it goes, but

1101
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,600
it's deeper. 
Yeah, but when you got somebody 

1102
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,920
coming up to you, like I've had 
through the year saying, oh 

1103
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,320
brother, you're using the 
Amplified Bible. 

1104
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,360
I only used the Bible that Paul 
used. 

1105
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:54,520
I said, well brother, which one 
is that the 1611 King James 

1106
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,520
Version? 
I said, yeah, except that that 

1107
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,840
was off by 1500 and, you know, 
65 years. 

1108
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,360
But but yeah, I I see what 
you're saying. 

1109
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,960
So you see how silly we can be 
sometimes. 

1110
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,000
He used the King James and 
called it the version that Paul 

1111
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,480
used. 
Yeah, well, everything around us

1112
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:25,440
has been tweaked and perverted 
by fraternal orders, which is a 

1113
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,400
whole different thing. 
And I'm not an expert on 

1114
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,960
fraternal orders, but I know 
what they've been doing since 

1115
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:35,000
the Tower of Babel. 
The question really is, is are 

1116
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,560
we going to rise up and quit 
arguing about things and be 

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01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,600
really true sons and daughters 
of the King so that when we walk

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01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,560
down the street, they can't tell
whether it's Jim, Joe or Susie 

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01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:54,240
or Lucy or Jesus? 
That's what the first church, 

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01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,280
the 1st century church, walked 
in. 

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01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,720
That's what we're supposed to be
walking in. 

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,520
And that's why he came. 
Anything less than that is 

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unacceptable. 
So that's my preaching for the 

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01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,720
day. 
And we know in the book of Acts,

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01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,720
you guys, it started with 
prayer. 

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01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:21,720
They were all in one place and 
they agreed in prayer and Doc. 

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,800
Fascinating, fascinating 
conversation. 

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,560
An episode I'm going to read one
little piece of scripture here 

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01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,120
as we wind down First Chronicles
1611. 

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01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:37,400
Seek the Lord and his strength. 
Seek his face continually. 

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01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,680
So Doc, until next time and I'll
have some more questions for 

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01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,320
you. 
And I'm very thankful for the 

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01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,480
time I got to spend with you 
here today real quick. 

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01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,440
Before we get off plug yourself 
in. 

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01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,840
Let's talk a bit about your 
website here real quick and we 

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01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,800
can try to direct some people 
your way. 

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01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:01,600
OK, so my website is Doc 
rodich.com and it's it's DOC No 

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01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,120
period or anything in between, 
like my e-mail has. 

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01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:12,240
And then my last name, ROD, as 
in davidich.com on the website, 

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01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,520
When the page opens up, you'll, 
you know, like most websites 

1141
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,560
somewhere and there's a little 
bio, you'll see that I have a 

1142
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:25,479
series of three spiritual tests 
that are very really precise and

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01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,240
there's a cost for that. 
And then on the other side, 

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,000
there is the full nutritional 
work up. 

1145
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,840
I do both. 
Both of these have have a 

1146
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,640
combined discount that you'll 
see on that page. 

1147
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,640
There's descriptions to a point 
there. 

1148
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,960
I mean, you can't go into super 
great detail. 

1149
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,720
And also a little further back 
on the website is my book Moving

1150
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:51,240
Towards Sonship, which I've had 
some really wonderful feedback 

1151
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,200
on. 
And this is a book that that the

1152
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,319
Lord had me to write it. 
Most of it is his download. 

1153
01:08:57,319 --> 01:09:00,240
So I can really not take that 
much credit for it other than 

1154
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,200
knowing how to type. 
And the the purpose of that was 

1155
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,120
is that for people that just 
know inside there's more, 

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:12,040
they're hungering for God. 
This book will actually give you

1157
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,680
language and and help you 
transition and realize where you

1158
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,319
got to clean things up in the 
soul and and how to interact a 

1159
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:22,840
little bit with the spirit 
realm. 

1160
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,960
But it's it's just kind of more 
you read and then you got to 

1161
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,560
learn how to do it on your own. 
But still it's there it's it 

1162
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,680
lays the foundation. 
You can get that by clicking on 

1163
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,479
the link or you can go to 
lulu.com or you can go to 

1164
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,160
Amazon, not Kindle but just 
Amazon and order it the way you 

1165
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,520
would, I don't know, maybe a 
sports energy drink or something

1166
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,240
and just type in moving towards 
sonship and a lot of people and 

1167
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,000
then you get it like within a 
couple of days and Lulu might be

1168
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,520
a week or two, but that's that's
how you can get a hold of me. 

1169
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:57,440
And of course you know if you 
click the link on the website, 

1170
01:09:58,440 --> 01:10:00,720
you know it's going to take you 
to a place where you can leave 

1171
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,520
your voice message and use 
PayPal and and anybody that 

1172
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,560
wants to donate to my research. 
There is even a donate button 

1173
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,360
any amount is is greatly 
appreciated and I know that God 

1174
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,160
will bless you and because when 
you partner with other 

1175
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:20,440
ministries and other Christian 
ventures you get a blessing off 

1176
01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:25,600
of that too and and so I don't 
know if on the website Rod I'll 

1177
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,120
ever have any of these little 
energy disks that I've been 

1178
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,280
making. 
But I told you just kind of at 

1179
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,840
the beginning, I'm a kind of a 
guy that that I don't want to 

1180
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,880
let the New Agers get away with 
anything. 

1181
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,360
And so I thought, OK, I'm going 
to just look into the hardcore 

1182
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,320
truth of that. 
Well, I kind of studied it up 

1183
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,040
and then I ordered all the stuff
in. 

1184
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,400
I made fun of these disks and I 
didn't sleep for two days, so I 

1185
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,440
had to take it off. 
So, So whether those will ever 

1186
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:53,040
be available for sale, I don't 
really know because I'm just a 

1187
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,480
one man show. 
But I'm having a lot of fun 

1188
01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:59,600
doing this stuff and I just hope
to be a blessing to everybody. 

1189
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,720
But let me just say guys and 
gals out there, this is only 

1190
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,760
going to get greater and a lot 
more fun, but we got to put 

1191
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,600
everything that we have into 
this. 

1192
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,320
And so if I can be a blessing to
you in any way, you can reach 

1193
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:14,840
me. 
If you want to send me an e-mail

1194
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:20,320
at at doc.doc.rotich@gmail.com, 
just, you know, tell me your 

1195
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,360
name and and you know, if you 
want to give me a shout, I'll 

1196
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,880
eventually get to it. 
You guys, that is it. 

1197
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,040
That's the episode here. 
I need you guys to share this 

1198
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,920
with your friends, your family 
members, with your Co workers 

1199
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,440
and you guys leave me that five 
star rating review on your 

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01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:41,080
favorite podcast catcher, 
whatever one you decide to 

1201
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,920
listen on. 
That helps the algorithms, that 

1202
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:50,640
helps the show grow and until 
next time, God bless and goodbye

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01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:55,840
None.