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All right. Welcome back, everybody.
I have the one and only returning doctor, Robert Rodich,
and it's awesome to be back here with you again, Doc.
Thanks for joining me. Well, thank you, Rod.
Pleasure to be back today. Yeah man, I got some cool
questions lined up for you. I think what we're going to do
is just try to touch on what we had kind of talked off air about
that we have questions coming through from the audience.
There's things that we know are super relevant right now and
there's so much false information out there and
there's a lot of really weird rabbit holes that people can get
lost in. So we kind of want to come back
and give them a bit of like. Some balance like, hey, this is,
this is a biblical thread, right?
We pray, we're interceding, We're looking into the
Scriptures. We're being Bereans back into
the word. And hey, here's what we got, you
know, and sometimes it is an opinion doc, and sometimes it is
like, no, this is this is in the word right here.
We did word study and I love that about our conversations.
So what's happened in the last, like week or two since we
talked? Anything cool that you just want
to bring up here real quick? Did did you have any?
Well, well, Alyssa, yeah, yeah, My Iowa Hawkeyes, even though I
live in the very southern tip of Alabama, continue to win with
their punter and he's like the best probably on the planet.
And his name is Tori Taylor. So I'm really excited about them
beating up on Wisconsin like 15 to 9 or something like that.
You know so it's more like a baseball game.
But no, I mean yeah we're we're always rod we're always engaging
heaven. I have a a really wonderful
group of dear friends some I've known for nearly 20 years and
one is 1. Gentleman is is a prophet.
He lives in prophet type. You know, we're we're all sons
now, so we don't really want the titles much.
But he's a seer, so he lives in Louisville, KY And then we have
a dear friend of ours, actually, that or who's become a dear
friend who just moved within only about 1/2 an hour away from
where we live in South Alabama. So we're we're always engaging,
exchanging ideas, you know literally going into heaven
because it's the scripture says, you know, really if you look at
it for what it says instead of what the theologians tell us, it
says we're supposed to live in both places at the same time.
So we're we're learning how to do that.
So, so we're always engaging to answer your question.
Fascinating. Yeah.
We are called to occupy and and
I think it's much more than just like sitting here twiddling our
thumbs until our temporary physical vessel leaves.
If right, it gets deep and gets interesting, man.
And this will kind of start us out here.
But, you know, we talked. The first time you were on about
the voice, you know analysis and how you're determining a medical
condition for for the person and and spiritual evaluation, right.
And the accuracy of that and how you've been helping people do
that, what protocols or or what would be a red flag if you were
dealing with like an AI, right, an AI voice.
So right now we have crazy AI technology that can literally
mimic somebody's voice like it. It'll sound exactly like them,
and then it can have. A whole conversation laid out
through this person's voice and and this is like big on TikTok,
they call it like the younger people get on these social media
apps called TikTok and you can just see the craziness of that.
I mean, So what kind of parameters would you guys have
to know you're not dealing or or to know you're dealing with a
genuine person for example? And then any advice and thoughts
in that area? OK, so let let's go back kind of
a little bit and give us some biblical groundwork for why this
even works. You know when you read the Old
Testament, especially the book of Genesis and you know, you see
the interaction between Yahweh, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, even
though they're not all called that in the Old Testament, but
strangely enough they're alluded to in the original language and
you see God speaking. Well, we have to think about
this. Why does scripture tell us to be
careful what we say? Is it just the words alone or is
there a frequency that does something in the intent that is
that is around us? So for instance, you take the
scripture that says judge, not that you be judged.
Well, that's just not talking about being judgmental alone.
It's real. What I believe in the bigger
context is saying, if you throw words out, because if you're
fully human and you throw words out, whether you're born again
or not, it's going to throw something out there into the
ether that the enemy's going to use.
Almost like witchcraft against you and against the person that
you spoke that. So tell me that there's no
frequency, things involved in that.
It can't be just, you know, sound frequency, everything has
meaning. So for instance, if I go up to
my wife and I say I love you honey, or I say I love you
sweetie, you catch the tones in the voice.
But tones are connected with frequencies.
So when we go to check something that would be AI related, the
numbers would be very weird. They would they wouldn't be
right? In some cases there are no
numbers at all most of the time, because it's not real, it's not
coming from a human voice. So for instance, I could
actually check animals using the the, the base form of the
technique that I use, but I use the electromagnetic energy
coming off of their body because guess what, they can't say, hey
doc, man, I got a stomach ache, you know, a little cat or
something like that, you know, at least not in the way things
are right now. They can't talk to us.
So I actually test through the human through electromagnetic
energy which is kind of related to frequency, but when the Holy
Spirit hovered over creation. If you look at the original
language, and I'm not a Hebrew expert, but I can use the
Strong's like everybody else it it says he vibrated over well,
when you vibration has a hum, there's a frequency attached to
that. So the answer that I would give
is, is that the numbers would either be so horribly skewed,
which most everything I rate is from zero to 10 with 10 being
nothing wrong. There's a couple numbers that
are a little higher that are organ specific but not very
many. So I might run into like a a 200
or just be all zeros so I would know the difference because
because I've been able to do that.
Actually I've been able to tell when when you know when
somebody, you know, they lost their their voice box for
instance, which makes a real problem for me because I have to
hear the voice. I was able to test them in
person because of their electromagnetic energy, but not
from their voice, just to do traditional muscle testing.
Because they didn't have a voice, I couldn't do it long
distance, so they had to see me in person.
So I don't know if that answers the question or not, but yeah, I
would be able to tell if it was AI.
And as I'm growing in this thing, I would also be able to
tell if there was somehow some weird content in it as well.
Interesting. Yeah.
I mean. I guess the next thing I just
kind of want to follow up real quick with on this thread is
what are your thoughts on like if AI, the technology or even an
individual manufactured bot, right.
So we're seeing these Tesla bots, we're seeing the Flippy
Arms, we're seeing all the all these literally colloquial
robots that are being initiated into the manufacturing, into the
entertainment, you name it, they're showing up there.
Do you think that any of these? Robots that are plugged into the
artificial intelligence, let's just say supercomputer airwave
if you will. Do you think they can be
inhabited by demons or dark spirits?
Or do you think that they can be manipulated by the demoniac or
the enemy? What are your thoughts on that?
You mean like Jay-Z and Beyoncé, I mean.
I don't know. Are they clones?
Are they real people? I don't.
Yeah. I don't know.
I mean, you know, that's the talk on the Internet, right?
So, you know, she becomes what? What?
What does she become? Sasha Fierce or something?
She says she she becomes. So yeah.
There's some weird stuff going on there.
OK, so so from a biblical standpoint, we have to really go
back to how mankind was made. Why are we even here in the 1st
place? And and you say, wow, that
doesn't seem to relate. Well, actually it does, because
everything that they're doing is to try to steal the image of
Christ in us the hope of glory. Well, not just to do that.
So. So really to the listeners,
you've got to decide what camp are you in if you're a true
believer? And I like to use the word true
a lot because there's some things out there that are not
true. In fact, a lot of things.
You just got your ticket punched.
Or do you want to walk in true sonship, where you make a
difference, where you're not worried about if the Rapture is
going to happen tomorrow or not? If it does, great, we all get to
go. But if it doesn't, you're still
working instead of holed up somewhere in a mountain retreat
waiting for Jesus to come in 1977.
And those people, their cars are aging.
They can't get parts for them anymore.
You know what I'm saying? It didn't happen.
OK, So what can we do in the meantime?
How can we occupy so? So what happens is, is that the
AI, the real spirit behind AI, or the nepheline, the
disembodied spirits, they have figured out how to inhabit the
whole quantum computer realm. And I don't need to go into
great detail about that. And if somebody says, well,
where's the scripture for that? Well, tell me where it even
talks about telephones, you know?
I mean, is it is Walmart? Is is Walmart mentioned in
scripture? I know, yeah, yeah, you know.
So I got to, I got to get a word before I before I go to Walmart.
Well, probably these days that's not a bad idea.
You you need to check with the Lord to make sure that there's
not some craziness going on. But that's a little different
than, you know, the the Super hyper spiritual people or the
that they appear to be. But that's that's for another
day and that's another story. But the AI thing, you know,
let's be honest, it's real. It's becoming more and more
sophisticated all the time, but the purpose is to replace us.
Now why would they want to replace us?
Somehow, in his twisted mind, Satan, in all his minions and
his cohorts think that if they can eliminate mankind, that God
won't bother to eliminate them and throw them in the lake of
fire. That's really what's going on.
And in the craziness of it all, somehow they think if they make
it happen quicker than what was on God's timeline, that they can
beat it. Now the other thing is, and I
don't know if I mentioned this last week or not, but there are
certain technologies that have always existed in the spirit
realm. And then there's the pure
supernatural spiritual, the way we would think that it is.
But they've always been coexistent and blending.
And I mean, the Father sometimes rides around on a chariot that
has wheels within wheels and things like that.
I don't even know how to comprehend that really, unless I
see it personally. But I just know that that would
be like way cooler than even, you know, a 57 Cadillac.
You know what I'm saying? You know, and so, you know, even
if it was all St. streets, you know, souped up and everything.
And so we in this who are Christians with air quotes, you
know, we we focus so much on on the spiritual we we don't even
think about the technological side that is just as much a part
as the spiritual. So when Satan and his minions
fell, they were cut off from the true life source of everything.
But for reasons only known to Him, the Lord allowed them to
still exist in some fashion as they became a part of His
overall purpose for mankind being brought into probably a a
more tighter and deeper level of sonship.
Because the Lord seems to like to have all of us test our free
will to see what kind of decisions we'll make.
So the AI think it's going, it's literally to replace us.
So the question is, do I want to be one of the the Christians
with my ticket to heaven? And you know, when they come
door to door and put a gun up to our head, if they do that, I'm
just going to sit there and let them pop me off.
Or am I going to actually get ahead of this whole AI
technological thing by actually becoming the son or daughter of
the king who has access to incredible heavenly resources
and change what can be changed? That's what they're really
afraid of. So they're ramping up their AI
thing right there. So that would be my answer.
Very interesting. And you did hint on kind of my
next question even just as you were talking there, ancient I
cloud realm technology. Now that's just a IT.
It's a silly term that I kind of coined because everybody knows
this. I cloud, right?
The I cloud realm where it's invisible and technology can be
stored there and then it can interact with our plastic and
polymers and gold. Constructed devices, computers
and cell phones quote, UN quote, and it can translate this
information into. I mean, I'm looking at AI apps
right now, doc, where you can speak into your phone in English
and it'll do an automatic translation into the language of
your desire right out the other end.
I'm like. Yeah, this is the days we're
living in. I mean, we've known of this
stuff for some time, but just to see that it's available for
like, next day shipping to your door.
If you're flying out next week to Pakistan and need a
translator. And your translator buddy from
college bailed out on you, A is got your back, right?
That's kind of what's going on in today's day, right?
Well, what what about this ancient realm technology?
So, I mean, I asked Dan Duvall about this, and he had some
fascinating answers. In the antediluvian times, do
you believe that they had ancient realm technology that
maybe we're interfacing with today?
I know that sounds bizarre and it sounds out there and some
people may say, where's that at in the Bible, Rod?
And it's like slow down. It's actually called Gender 6,
but you know whatever, let well let's dive into that, whatever
your thoughts are on my multi layered question if you will.
Well, first of all, let me say I, I really enjoyed Dan.
I've never met him personally. I've met a couple people that
are like counselors in his ministry because they've wanted
you know, Wellness and and the spiritual testing that I do, the
three different spiritual tests and and they have been all been
delightful people for being a young guy.
I'm just amazed at how the Lord talks to him and speaks to him.
Because he certainly must have more of a seer gifting in order
to know all those things. Whereas I'm I'm a knower, so I
don't get the benefit of seeing except for like like in sonar or
radar which is actually I'm getting pretty good at.
So I enjoy Dan and and his interesting sense of humor.
I just sometimes just chuckle it.
So it's great and there's and thankfully there's a lot of
other people out there that maybe your audience is not quite
aware of that are doing tremendous things for the
Kingdom. You know, and so we should be
supporting them in some way, at least praying for them.
OK. But when it comes to the all the
technologies, again, you've got to go back.
And this is what I alluded to think about and I don't know, in
Earth time, you know, if we could say like in Earth time,
you know, did Satan fall 3 billion years ago, 6 billion,
because there's not really time out there the way that we render
time here. But if we could, it was probably
a long, long time ago. Well, all of the sudden, imagine
being just for a moment, some really wonderfully created
being, even if it was kind of a lower Angel, you know, in the
sense of power and prestige and all that, And all of a sudden
you are completely cut off from the source you were lied to by
one of the head angels. Who said that?
He had his own system and his own way of doing things.
And then you get out there and you fell flat on your face.
And, you know, you know, without that flow from the heart of the
father himself, you're you're alive.
But it's like, what? What just happened?
This is horrible. We didn't know.
We can even feel this way. That's the kind of thing that
they probably realized. So like so many other things in.
Life and creation, they probably figured, well, we better try to
do something about this. So let's see if somehow, and you
know, because the head guy, Satan, Lucifer, Halal or
whatever his name really was, said that we can somehow like
rob from different energy fields, from different realms
and dimensions, and we can try to get a lot of this stuff back
through technology, well. I don't know how deep it goes
into other planets, and if there were beings on other planets,
which wouldn't surprise me, but we certainly know there's
creatures throughout the universe, the multiverse, the
diverse, whatever it's really is and how it really pans out in
reality. Because there were angels and
all angels don't look like Michael and Gabriel, or like
Lucifer did before his fault. There's ones that look like
Dragons. There's ones that are like
Transformers in the movies. There's some that are what looks
like glass, but you, you know, if you touch it, you'd realize
it was the sharpest steel. You know, I've seen some of
these creatures. Everything that we think of in
reality in the true spiritual realm is so far beyond anything
we can imagine that I think if we even really had a grasp of
it, it would almost take our breath away.
Now why is it when these? Supposedly antediluvian beings
that are being held by the government on underground bases,
all locked up with the copper bracelets.
But people are told not to get within so many feet because the
electromagnetic field that these creatures put out would kill a
human. Well, what kind of creature is
that? Is angels come near us all the
time and they don't kill us so obviously?
They were trying to get technology back so that they
could come up with a plan to try to overthrow God.
Wherever they all come from, there's still a creator God.
They're still in order to everything.
And most of the time, by the time we see it with our natural
eyes, it's either some kind of an illusion or it's a trick.
And I'm talking about from the enemy's camp, never from God's
camp. To try to get us to be in fear
so that they can drain our energy.
Energy's a big deal because they don't have any.
So they had to make all the elementals mad and siphon off
their energy so that they could power their system.
You've heard of adrenochrome, right?
Yeah, of course. OK, well guess what?
Every time they created trauma, we create an energetic
adrenochrome. That they try to capture, but
it's also got our DNA signature on it.
So who knows what they're doing with it.
OK, so that's kind of like present.
But for us to sit here to say that once the fall took place,
it was just, you know, a few people running around calling
John the Baptist with, you know, a woolly little covering on and
stuff like that. And then Jesus finally showed
up. And thankfully, we can be saved
and restored and regenerated and all that.
No, There was like very, very sophisticated stuff.
What, you know what they call it Globe.
I can't hardly even say it Globe badly.
Tempe or whatever it's called. And Gobekli.
Tempe. Yeah.
I mean, you know, you know the stuff in the Peruvian mountains
now they're finding whole pyramidal cities that have
sunken down, you know, after the biblical flood, you know, in the
ocean when when all the continent shifted and everything
like that. And you know, there's a big
pyramid in Bosnia. Well, I know about that because
my grandparents came from the former Yugoslavia, and which
made me think about that translator thing.
I I mean, I can understand a lot of the language but the
translator, that would be so cool whether it's a 'cause, you
know, it doesn't mean all AI is bad, but but anyway, I let let
me get back to that focus There were probably.
Here's the problem that some of the the really strict biblical
timeline folks have is that when you hear about the stuff that
happened in India and they talk about a war in heaven 15,000
years ago, well, that you know well, that doesn't fit the 6000
year narrative. OK, so nobody.
In that camp wants to go back beyond 6000 years.
I think it's absolutely absurd to think the earth, the earth is
6000 years old. Because if you read Genesis one
one and one two, wait a minute, there was a time out somewhere
along the way from the original level of creation.
Then it was made without void, made, you know, without form,
and it was void. And then there's an indication
that things are recreated, setting up for Adam and Eve to
come. Well, what happened before that?
Well, they're likely. A lot of the things that we're
seeing are remaining evidence from those times.
Now, what they all did, do, I believe there were probably
Stargates? Yes, I do.
Did they probably go to other inhabitable planets?
I mean, I've never been there through a Stargate, but I've
been there in the spirit, and this is going to freak some of
the purists out. But I'm sorry.
You know we're seated with Christ Jesus in heavenly places.
That is not a metaphor. There is some aspect of our
being that stays with Him because he stays with us.
So for the doubters, study the topic called quantum
entanglement. We are quantumly entangled with
the Savior. That's why the second the the
whole platform of the second Adam is so much greater than
even our original creation. It's not even funny because now
there's higher components that were used because of the person
of Jesus Christ, who, by the way, was 1/3 of the Godhead.
So sorry to the United Pentecostals who believe there's
Jesus only it it's it doesn't say that in Scripture and it
doesn't say that in the practicality of the design of
all of creation. So just made sorry Rod, I just
made a whole nother group of people upset.
But the reality is, is that I wish I could say, Oh yeah, you
know, I, you know I saw this and this is the way they did that or
whatever. Well.
Even down in Florida in the 1930s, there was some guy that
was that built a shrine out of coral, very heavy coral rock or
blocks and he was moving them around on his own with some kind
of a sound device. But he never, he never allowed
that. I mean, his neighbor saw what he
was doing, but he never told any of them how he how he discovered
that and how he did what he did. And don't even get me going on
probably somebody that I'm related to, a gentleman by the
name of Nikola Tesla, because because he was, because he was
from the same exact region and literally the same exact town as
my grandparents. And the people that settled in
that area of Croatia in the 1600s were actually Serbian
mercenaries. Who stopped the the?
The Turks on behalf of the Austro Hungarian Empire.
And I forget what the name of the battle was.
And after they defeated the Turks, they stayed there.
So with the fact that it was a mountainous region, it's almost
impossible that I don't share some DNA with Nikola Tesla.
Now, where he got his stuff, I'm not going to tell you the Holy
Spirit showed up and showed him all of that stuff, but I'm going
to tell you that, that. That old boy knew a whole lot
more than what most people even can think about and which
explains why I think it was 1945 or 1946 as soon as he passed
away. Which it makes me wonder how the
FBI knew that he'd passed away. So that's a different story.
But they confiscated all of his paperwork and and most the most
of it. We don't even know where it is
to this day. So if that's happening in
basically our lifetime, that was only seven years before I was
born 7 or 8. And what about what was going on
back then? Fallen angels who were severed
from relationship with God didn't mean all of the sudden
they they turned stupid overnight.
Their their their level of brilliance would have been way
beyond even what we presently have as humans.
They could have done stuff that would have just blown our minds.
So that's the only way that I can answer that because I don't
have any. Yeah, I was over there and
walked through a stargate and ended up, you know, me and me
and Kurt Russell ended up on this like Egyptian kind of
planet. I don't have a testimony like
that. But it doesn't mean that I can't
look at what's been left behind and go, oh, they really knew
something. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's been one of my continual themes to just
encourage the audience. And I do this for myself as the
years go on, just to slow down. We pray about everything, right?
So if we hear something, if we're reading something, if, if,
if it's a new type of, you know, whatever, there's Rhema there.
The words are jumping out of the book for you for the first time
while reading through whatever book of the Bible you're in, and
it never did that before. You're getting an answer right
there. But but if you're in a dry
season, you're hearing things that kind of like that has to go
in the back burner. Where does that piece together?
It's very wise to slow down and pray about everything.
So I just wanted to reaffirm that for the audience.
And I'm really enjoying this part too.
Here man the the whole Nikola Tesla thing.
One of my favorite quotes that I can't re quote exactly Doc but
it's something along the lines if you want to understand the
secrets of the universe think in form of vibration and frequency.
Something along those lines is how he words and and then with
like, you know, Albert Einstein's research with the
spooky action at a distance, with this quantum entanglement
and just how some of the minds that most of society is aware of
have somehow interacted with the revelation of understanding the
intelligent design around us and how bizarre things get when you
really start to look, especially in the quantum field.
I think a lot of scientists that that are considered to be
quantum physicists, a lot of them end up committing suicide
or going crazy. I mean there, there there's some
conspiracy in there and there's some inflated stories.
But there is some reality to the fact that even some of the human
minds that tick very well in certain areas of comprehension
and expansion of these ideas can't handle some of the
realities they come in in with. And I think that this is where
God has designed us as body soul spirit right and and the
scripture say things like love the Lord your God with your mind
your heart your body like all of us like and then we talked you
talked earlier about just the power of the tongue right.
So just the spoken power of our words and and how that really
the the illegals, right, the dark entities who are, they
understand the courtroom of heaven.
They understand the legalities of our words.
They understand a lot of this stuff.
So there's so many deep multifaceted things going on
here that yeah. As Christians back to the basics
you guys. We preach the gospel.
We're being discipled as we're making disciples and we
understand, right. We're in a battle.
But just because we're aware of the basics and we proceed in
those areas does not mean we neglect that which is of the
ecclesia of God that has these revelations that line up
scripturally and and the deeper that we can go it's the better
for our protection. And sometimes minds work like
mine, doc where I I have no academia.
I I'm not impressive in any which way.
I'm the guy next door. I have calluses on my hands.
I've been working tough jobs most of my life.
I've been rejected by just about, I don't know every system
and person I've come up against in the world scheme most of my
life. But my brain works in a way
where I'll be reading and and things will jump for me.
And I keep asking questions. Resilience, right?
Like I'm just determined and that's OK, there's a place for
me. Obviously it's here on my show,
but I I don't like when people try to restrict those things
which are helpful to the body of Christ like what we're doing
today. So I think that This is why it's
fascinating, Doc, to pick your brain and hear what you have to
say. Just mind boggling.
I'm talking too much. Let me ask a question or unless
you want. To respond.
But listen, you were on A roll, man.
We could end the program right now.
I mean, you like, nailed it. OK?
So I'm just being honest with you, but let let me speak to to
to those who really, really love the Lord and are not operating
out of a religious spirit, OK? And then let's in a good way
refer a little bit to those that do operate in religious spirit,
OK? Because they need to come out of
that. Why do we think that the God who
created everything has to always have his principles of
operation? Be a mystery.
Why is there not a fabric of creation for every realm and
dimension that operates in our way of thinking, but on a
heavenly basis with computer programming that has numbers and
sequences and that's what gives that realm?
Its definition, that's what causes the level of gravity to
work the way that it does the beings to interact.
And you know, some realms, maybe they don't even have to talk and
it should. They just broadcast the thoughts
back and forth. Well, that's because in the
fabric of that realm or dimension, that's the way God
designed it. Well then we see all this other
stuff that the enemy's doing and we and we see that's, listen,
that's just a knock off. Now let me give you an example.
It's really hard to do this now, but I had a sister that lived in
South Texas. So gosh, she moved down there
and taught school for years and years and she's still that.
She moved back down recently, actually from the Midwest back
down there. But we used to be able to cross
over into Mexico and for like $20 we would buy these literally
genuine looking Rolex watches. Now this is going back 30 years.
Well, the only difference is some of them ticked and some of
them were perpetual. The perpetual ones, even the
Jewelers couldn't tell the difference until they tore them
apart. OK, well, I I got a big kick out
of it because on a pastor salary, I thought it was pretty
cool to be able to wear a Rolex and not have to pay like 15 or
$20,000 for it, if you catch my drift.
Well, we call those knockoffs and they're harder to get now.
I don't get down in that area of the country much anymore.
But who's to say that Satan doesn't have just a bunch of
knockoffs? Everything is his version of a
knockoff. God tells the truth.
He tells the knockoff, which is mostly a lie, but with just
enough truth to try to draw people in.
You see? You see how all that works?
Well, we need to all grow up and put our big boy and big girl
pants on. And realize that part of the
entire level of warfare waged against true believers, whether
you're bound by just the religious thing or you know
you're you're more open to the real truth of the fullness of
God, we need to realize that this is all about eliminating
us. That's what the global elites
are trying to do. That's why they've poisoned our
food. That's why they've poisoned our
our educational system. That's why they're shooting mRNA
into meat. They're doing it all because
they no longer want us to have the capacity to reflect the
image of the Son of God. And it's not just to be saved,
Rod. It's because.
In the second, Adam is so much of A higher relationship
possibility, which is strange to say than even the first Adam had
because it was more functional even though it was spiritual.
And they are afraid that we wake up to full bona fide released
sonship. Because when we start being
able, with our words in our presence, to release the fire in
the glory and the Kratos power, it not only shakes up everything
that they do, it has the ability to shop, stop machinery in its
place. It has the ability to change
even reality to a certain point, not in a bad way, but to mess
with everything that the enemy has set up to eliminate us.
So all the other stuff is just what they've done to fill in, go
right to the top. What I just said is what's
really happening. And I don't care if it's a Gray
tall or a medium tall or a little stubby short, you know,
not so tall Gray when they're all a part of the whole scheme,
so. Precisely.
So that's what we have. We have to just grow up in this
and say OK, if because we can at some point, maybe in a future
podcast, we can talk about how the body, soul and spirit really
look. And interestingly enough, we
were recently in an engagement where the Lord showed us that he
actually made Adam's soul 1st and then his body.
We saw we saw it in real time. Now there is no life there and
I'm not going to go into that now, but we are a real, clear
and present danger to the enemy on every level.
So he wants to keep us stupid. Oh yeah.
I mean, I couldn't agree more on that.
And just as you were talking, one, the two things that I was
getting hit with is. It is God who works in and
through us to cause His will to come about.
So of course the enemy wants a false or synthetic system in
place because we're like, at any point in time a smoking gun,
right? If we're obedient to God and
we're in relationship with Him, it's.
I call it an L So I was out doing St.
Ministry not too long ago near Allentown, PA.
And as I was talking with the young brother and the Lord, I'm
saying think of it as an L because it's a loss for the
enemy. I said if God is pouring some
type of power or Rhema or just revelation or or resurrection
power, you name authority power down into you and then out of
your belly towards. Who you're dealing with, it's it
makes like AL, right? And I said remember that bro,
because that's that's a loss for the enemy.
When that happens and they were smiling, they're like bro, that
is powerful, right? And I'm like, well this is the
thing. The enemy doesn't want us and
they want us sucked into technology, systematically
desensitized to the reality of what's going on.
They want us over entertained. I've been saying since day one,
We're almost at five years for this podcast. 1,000,000 messages
and a million signals that cause confusion and chaos.
Let's take this journey together and discovering ultimate truth,
right? Let's use our own critical
minds. Let's read the Bible and let's
pray in secret. And Doc, everything you're
saying is just, it compounds and it builds.
And really what we're doing is we're targeting, you know, a
section of. Audience and and people that
maybe some of them on the teeter totter of Well, is any of this
information important? Because should I just be going
door to door telling people about the gospel?
You don't stop doing that. But you also tell people with
your life you just like when the fisherman.
They're like, hey, these guys clearly were with the Lord
because they're uneducated fisherman.
It's like they they were speaking that out in the essence
of their life, their ability, the power that God was giving
them, the presence that they carried.
All of it includes the goodness of what God can do and is doing
and will continue to do and I think once we open up our.
Our spectrum a little bit. We can stop doing this because
Christians right now are arguing with Christians doc.
And that's something that drives me nuts.
I'm like you guys already missed the point a while ago.
If we're arguing like it's different to have a debate or be
like please show me where that is or I'm a student of the word
so so let let's take this journey together in humility.
Let's pray about this. Let's read about that There's a
difference between that and straight up arguing.
So it just well. Let me give you let me give you
an example of that that came from a nine year old seer who I
love. His name is Ben.
Ben in his because you know, we can do everything either through
Zoom or you know through phone calls now.
And you know how the scripture in several different places just
tell tells us to test the spirits?
You run into an Angel, you say, who do you serve?
Well, if they don't say, of course, Jesus Christ.
He's my Lord and savior and I give him praise and worship and
honor. Well, then it might be a bad
guy. Well we're we're visiting with
Ben and Ben and so his mom asked him, Ben, how do you know that?
Like what you see is like a good being or whatever.
And he said, well, I read the registry this kids nine.
I barely use the word registry and I have two doctors and his
mom says, well what do you mean? He said, well I go and I read
their registry and if they've done things that are clearly
Kingdom and good things, I know it's from the Lord's camp.
OK, so here you have a lot of Christians out there who,
because they're afraid that they might run into a bad guy, don't
even acknowledge the good guys. And here you've got an innocent
9 year old who has things figured out already.
It's like, OK, people, we need to be embarrassed here.
Let's just be honest. We need to be embarrassed.
A nine year old can figure this thing out, or some of it.
And and we're still wondering is this of God, Oh my goodness, I
just had to throw that in, you know?
I mean, you know, but anyway, you had a.
Question. No.
Yeah, that was definitely good stuff.
I was thinking and and and I forget.
I think it started on an interview where I've been I've
been getting interviewed on other people shows now so which
is nowhere for me a little bit interesting.
But I had this connection where I'm like you know what the
fallen heavenly host the regional principalities and
powers. I have this suspicion that they
are OK with Wednesdays and Sundays for the corporate church
gathering here in the West. And I'm I just kept feeling
like. There's something going on where
they have more resistance in the Airways and as I started talking
with people Doc, what happens is most of the arguments and the
major battles that'll take place, marital or or the
function of the house or even just other unexpected things
that are going wrong are hindering people from having
clarity of mind and lifestyle worship, especially on the
Sundays. Does that do anything for your
mind? If you want to do a lot of
damage, you try to get people together in a group, or at least
have them on the way to be in a group.
And that's not to say that they go to church and then they go
walk into this cauldron of evil and so on and so forth, because
there's a lot of really wonderful churches.
But then there's also a lot of these churches that have become
so user friendly, and some of them have thousands of members
and satellite churches, and they don't want to hurt anybody's
feelings. And I and I don't want to hurt
anybody's feelings either. But there's a difference between
speaking truth and plainly versus just being plain rude and
mean. OK.
And so again, what that speaks to me of is that they see
things. Electromagnetically, they see
things, even spiritually to a point that we don't see unless
we're allowing ourselves to be tuned by the Holy Spirit into
the spirit realm. And they don't care, just like
you. So really, honestly, and
perfectly said before, they don't care if we know about the
courts or not. They would prefer that we
didn't. But they know the legalities and
they don't use ignorance as an excuse to hammer people left and
right. They do what they do.
They operate very well in what they do.
But they don't just see. Here's here's one of the things
that we've got to get over. They don't just come against us
and do warfare well. The purpose of warfare is to
destroy something. OK, let's, you know, like let's
take a World War One or two movie.
And Can you imagine the guy saying, hey, we're just going to
shoot, you know, over at the Nazis?
And the Nazis say, hey, we're going to shoot at the Americans
and the British, but let's not hand anybody, Let's just play
war. That's not what they did.
I had two uncles in in World War 2 and 3 uncles and, well, 2
uncles and my dad in the Korean War.
They weren't playing games. They were trying to win.
And we need to realize that this battle that we're in is very,
very fierce and that it's real. And it's up to us to get through
spiritual boot camp and then get out there and operate in some
level of expertise, Which is why it doesn't matter whether you
have all these fancy degrees and different things.
If you've got a heart for God and and a mind to ask questions,
he's going to connect up to you. And he's going to reveal the
portion of the whole picture to you that you that is written
down on a book that you signed up to before you even came here.
Now that just made a bunch of people mad, too, because they
think that we only existed the moment that we were put in our
mother's womb. Except there are scriptures that
say I knew you before you were in your mother's room.
Oh no, that's just because God knows everything and and you
were in his mind. No, actually, we he knew that
person. And so dig into your Bible and
figure it out. OK, so I don't know if that
answers the entire question because obviously it doesn't
speak directly to the point of, hey, they almost prefer us to
have what? You know, maybe there's
something interesting about Wednesday and Sunday that's
different than other days of the week.
So my work around for that is I have worship every day.
I go to church every day. Now lately I've been on a
podcast almost every day or or some kind of a zoom call or
something and some of them are church like and and others
others are informational like yours and and or fascinating
some as well as yours is. And so just worship him every
moment of the day, all the time and don't have the same routine
all the time and you'll really mess with the enemy's mind,
would be my answer because yeah, I mean, how many couples were
arguing and then, you know, I pastored for 30 years.
I'm aware of this. They they they they argued on
the way to church and then as soon as they get out of the car,
there goes that that smile. How's everything, Brother Jones
and Sister Jones. Oh, just wonderful, Brother
Rodich. When when they were literally
tearing each other's throats out on the way to church.
No, not everybody. Not everybody yet, but that's
what I can't stand. Yeah, that drives me nuts.
And and that keeps me out of the building a lot of the times
because to me the church is the body people.
It's two or more three are gathered in his name and then
and now we start, we're actually having church.
But I love what your points are on that, and I think all of us
really, 'cause if we're going to be real with ourselves, as many
people as I've talked with, they're aware of this and that's
a turn off for them to come to The Gathering, which if little
minor things like that that are in the front line where it's
like. There's something wrong with the
person judging the church for that reason.
But this ecclesia, this body of believers, we also have a better
duty. We really need to tighten up
some things and actually be legit in our walk.
And I think what you're doing Doc and the information you're
bringing. Is what takes some of us into
those deep dives into relationship, into study.
And now we start having this accountability.
Now we're washing our mind in deeper places because we're
we're spending less time doing that which the world would
occupy us with. Let me drop a question here,
Doc, because we could keep going layers and layers deep in in
these areas and I know it's edifying and helpful, but this
is one that I've hinted at over the last couple years, OK.
And it's going to be the frequency of organic materials
versus inorganic materials. So I think it's Leviticus 19.
If we go read it, it's, you know, some law stuff where God
is saying do not mix your cattle with, right.
Don't mix a horse with a cow when you plant your plants,
allot them for a separation, don't mingle them with it in
each other. And then he says do not mix your
linen and your wool. And it's like, OK, So I had
asked around about this and. Most pastors were saying, oh,
that's because God wanted to separate these people, got his
people from the rest of the the world, right?
And I'm like, yes, but it's always multi layered.
It's always so much more than that.
That's the elementary answer, right?
So I'm like, I'm digging in and digging this back in 2019.
Actually, I I know the answer, but keep on 'cause it's I love
how you're setting it up. Yeah, just this kind of like the
little story of how the Holy Spirit was tugging me and the
reason I wanted. Explain this is because some of
you out there on these other exploits, you're on these other
journeys, you're on these other revelations and this is what
makes you fall in love with the word.
And I want to water that for for different listeners out there.
So I'm like something's going on here.
I feel the tug right, doc And I'm like, well, let's look into
it. And then I find a secular Doctor
Who's talking about the the energy output, the frequency of
organic materials, and then he eventually covers.
Flax, linen and wool and other organic materials.
And then I'm like fascinating. So it has an energy output and
then I'll start looking at the energy output of the surface of
the skin, which is the largest organ on the body.
And I'm going, this is fascinating.
I'm digging through how many times a holy man is talked about
in the in the Bible having white linens on.
Or white wool. And I'm going almost every
single time we see a holy man we see an angelic figure and and
I'm just adding it up, we're over 50 times and I'm not even
all the way through the Old Testament and I'm like this is
fascinating. Well, guess we could.
We could go on for a lot of programs and just this alone
dude, I'm telling. You I think we're going to.
I know with with a tight timeline for this one as we get
ready to close out in like a 10 minute window.
What I want to do is also leave a cliffhanger dock.
I want you to start diving into this a little bit, but I want
you to leave a cliffhanger because this is a high demand
topic in my personal life. I haven't broadcasted too much
on this. And then we're also going to
gateway into your third appearance with this guy.
So let's leave a little bit of a cliffhanger, but help us out
here. Let me see.
Let me see if I can successfully do this.
First of all, here's a question that I have to ask to our fellow
believers. If New Age people, because you
know, as soon as something doesn't fit our understanding,
oh, it's New Age. And somehow we're all New Age
experts, even though we don't have a clue what New Age really
is, which it's just a branch of the whole bigger picture on the
dark side that we're getting, that that we're talking about.
But not all New Age people are stupid.
They really are looking into things.
What they don't have is a regenerated soul with Christ at
the center of their being. But it doesn't mean that they
won't look into things like linen and wool and non you know,
things that are not genetically modified and things like that
and they can find answers. So what we do with our hyper
spirituality is if if a new age type group actually discovers
universal truth, we have to throw that universal truth out
because it was discovered by somebody from the new age.
You see how problematic that is? OK, so if a new ager and myself
were standing at the top of the tower of Pisa, leaning as it may
be, and we both decided to jump down without a word from God,
would we both not probably be in trouble by the time we hit the
ground? We we're fighting against
something at that point called gravity.
It applies to the new Ager. It applies to the Satanist.
It applies to the believer. OK, well, the fact of the matter
is, when we eat food, it's not the slimy substance that we
chew. And then it's digested and and
and then it comes out the other end by itself just by virtue
that it was broccoli or cauliflower or something that
all the sudden energizes us. Our body is set up by the
creator God to break everything down with different enzymes and
and and hydrochloric acid so that it's broken down South
finely. And then these little villi
through the digestive tract soak in micronutrients that are then
broken down to the base to speak to our cells and to feed our
bloodstream in that base, believe it or not, is a
frequency. OK, so that's how it works.
That's the poor man's version, but that's how it works.
Well, we have frequencies around us.
I mean, even when I was a kid, they had AM and FM radio.
Well, I go back far enough that we, if we had enough money, we
bought a little crystal radio set and tried to just get the
local top 40s channel, you know, and at those times it was, you
know, Elvis and The Four Seasons and all that kind of stuff.
Well, guess what? Those frequencies were going
through us. They didn't just go around us,
they went through US. Interesting.
Well, help us, Lord Jesus, but we've got a lot more than just
AM and FM in shortwave going through us now.
We've got microwaves, we've got stuff from satellites, we've got
things that that we don't even know about, probably because
technology that we know about is usually decades behind what
they're really using. OK, well clothing is the same
way, but it works both ways. When we received the essence of
a revelation or the Holy Spirit speaks to us, now we have Christ
in us. We have the Holy Spirit being
stationed on planet earth to lead us and guide us into all
truth. So that's Bible.
But if you mix those things, it actually draws our energy down
and creates and and I go back to the crystal radio, How did you
know you were on a channel? Because in between the channels
there were static. Well, the enemy for sure wants
us to operate in static most of the time.
So I would challenge your, your listeners to say to this, do you
walk around a lot of times feeling like you're in a funk or
you know you continually walk from 1:00 room to another and
somebody says one word and then you have to go back to the room
that you came from to figure out what it was that you walked out
of it to get? Well, that happens to all of us
from time to time, but a lot of it has to do with the way
clothing is made, the food that we eat.
Oh my goodness. You know, why does bee venom or
whatever it is, cells or DNA or something, need to be in corn?
Well, brother, because then you don't have to have all the
pesticides. And we can call it organic.
Really. It's organic.
If I'm eating part of a bee and you know, now they're trying to
get us to to eat grasshoppers and stuff, well, technically we
can if you go back to the Bible and see what we can eat.
But. But I don't want a flour made
from crickets. You know, I have a hard enough
time with gluten. I don't need something made from
crickets. So everything is about getting
our frequencies out of sync because God still tunes with
frequency. And if you and if you're
wondering about that, have you ever been in a really, really
great worship service? I mean, one of those that they
weren't just playing some latest song that somebody invented, but
you could hear it resonating with heaven.
You could feel it. It was penetrating your
innermost to your innermost being, and you knew that
something special was happening. All of that has a frequency
component. How exactly does God heal?
Well, brother, his presence and the anointing comes.
Well, guess what? Presence and anointing has
frequencies, and they're very specific.
We just didn't know the the channel God was broadcasting on
his presence. You know when when Enoch walks
into a room, there's this, the guy's loaded with frequencies.
You know why, 'cause he still has his body, and that's the
only way he can exist in heaven. So I'm not going to, you know,
'cause like I said, we can really, especially if you've got
the great questions, We can really talk about this.
But I see the effects. There is so much negative, and I
don't mean negativity just with words.
That's bad enough. So be careful who or what you
talk about. Even if you don't like somebody,
bless them. Even if you're selfish.
Bless them, so you don't get hammered on.
I I know that sounds silly, but I'm telling you a truth here.
This whole atmosphere and the different dimensions that we
walk in is way, way more interactive than we could
possibly know right now. So when God says something in
Scripture, it's just not so he set the Jews apart.
That truth works for everybody. It's just so happens that he had
his own family. Well, God has Israel, Jesus has
us, And the Holy Spirit's having a good time trying to get
through our thick heads because it's His job to lead us and
guide us All in all truth. And then I'll leave you with
this little teaser. Whether we get to it next week
or not, I don't know. But when God made Adam, He made
He made Adam's soul. First, we're all familiar with
something called the silver cord or the silver strand, because
when it's broken, we no longer live.
Our spirit leaves our body, and then we go one place or the
other, right? Well, it appears that the
material that God made Adam from, first there was a silver
translucent kind of liquid that came from the earth to to settle
in with the figure of a man from the handprint that God made in
the ground and then the flesh from the earth formed around it.
Well, the battle that really takes place in US and around us
is all focused on our soul. The soul is what can be
fractured, the soul what is what can be cloned.
Some people even say that they can capture it.
I don't think they really can fully capture a person's soul,
but they might capture aspects of it.
All of that we need to wise up and we're trying to figure all
this stuff out. And thankfully the Book of
Daniel, I believe we're in the part.
I want to say Chapter 7, but I could be a little off on that,
where he was told to seal up the what he had seen.
And by the way, Paul actually makes reference to that He saw
things that he didn't have words in language to be able to
describe that he had seen in heaven.
Well, if Daniel saw things and Paul saw things and the prophets
saw things in the spirit realm, why is it just them?
So who was it that came up with the big lie that said, well, we
just needed, and I'm telling you, it's a huge lie, that we
just needed all the supernatural stuff to get the church started.
And then we're now that we have the book.
Well, to show you how silly that is, first of all, in a lot of
places it's not even translated in English to the depth of what
it really is. It's true as far as it goes, but
it's deeper. Yeah, but when you got somebody
coming up to you, like I've had through the year saying, oh
brother, you're using the Amplified Bible.
I only used the Bible that Paul used.
I said, well brother, which one is that the 1611 King James
Version? I said, yeah, except that that
was off by 1500 and, you know, 65 years.
But but yeah, I I see what you're saying.
So you see how silly we can be sometimes.
He used the King James and called it the version that Paul
used. Yeah, well, everything around us
has been tweaked and perverted by fraternal orders, which is a
whole different thing. And I'm not an expert on
fraternal orders, but I know what they've been doing since
the Tower of Babel. The question really is, is are
we going to rise up and quit arguing about things and be
really true sons and daughters of the King so that when we walk
down the street, they can't tell whether it's Jim, Joe or Susie
or Lucy or Jesus? That's what the first church,
the 1st century church, walked in.
That's what we're supposed to be walking in.
And that's why he came. Anything less than that is
unacceptable. So that's my preaching for the
day. And we know in the book of Acts,
you guys, it started with prayer.
They were all in one place and they agreed in prayer and Doc.
Fascinating, fascinating conversation.
An episode I'm going to read one little piece of scripture here
as we wind down First Chronicles 1611.
Seek the Lord and his strength. Seek his face continually.
So Doc, until next time and I'll have some more questions for
you. And I'm very thankful for the
time I got to spend with you here today real quick.
Before we get off plug yourself in.
Let's talk a bit about your website here real quick and we
can try to direct some people your way.
OK, so my website is Doc rodich.com and it's it's DOC No
period or anything in between, like my e-mail has.
And then my last name, ROD, as in davidich.com on the website,
When the page opens up, you'll, you know, like most websites
somewhere and there's a little bio, you'll see that I have a
series of three spiritual tests that are very really precise and
there's a cost for that. And then on the other side,
there is the full nutritional work up.
I do both. Both of these have have a
combined discount that you'll see on that page.
There's descriptions to a point there.
I mean, you can't go into super great detail.
And also a little further back on the website is my book Moving
Towards Sonship, which I've had some really wonderful feedback
on. And this is a book that that the
Lord had me to write it. Most of it is his download.
So I can really not take that much credit for it other than
knowing how to type. And the the purpose of that was
is that for people that just know inside there's more,
they're hungering for God. This book will actually give you
language and and help you transition and realize where you
got to clean things up in the soul and and how to interact a
little bit with the spirit realm.
But it's it's just kind of more you read and then you got to
learn how to do it on your own. But still it's there it's it
lays the foundation. You can get that by clicking on
the link or you can go to lulu.com or you can go to
Amazon, not Kindle but just Amazon and order it the way you
would, I don't know, maybe a sports energy drink or something
and just type in moving towards sonship and a lot of people and
then you get it like within a couple of days and Lulu might be
a week or two, but that's that's how you can get a hold of me.
And of course you know if you click the link on the website,
you know it's going to take you to a place where you can leave
your voice message and use PayPal and and anybody that
wants to donate to my research. There is even a donate button
any amount is is greatly appreciated and I know that God
will bless you and because when you partner with other
ministries and other Christian ventures you get a blessing off
of that too and and so I don't know if on the website Rod I'll
ever have any of these little energy disks that I've been
making. But I told you just kind of at
the beginning, I'm a kind of a guy that that I don't want to
let the New Agers get away with anything.
And so I thought, OK, I'm going to just look into the hardcore
truth of that. Well, I kind of studied it up
and then I ordered all the stuff in.
I made fun of these disks and I didn't sleep for two days, so I
had to take it off. So, So whether those will ever
be available for sale, I don't really know because I'm just a
one man show. But I'm having a lot of fun
doing this stuff and I just hope to be a blessing to everybody.
But let me just say guys and gals out there, this is only
going to get greater and a lot more fun, but we got to put
everything that we have into this.
And so if I can be a blessing to you in any way, you can reach
me. If you want to send me an e-mail
at at doc.doc.rotich@gmail.com, just, you know, tell me your
name and and you know, if you want to give me a shout, I'll
eventually get to it. You guys, that is it.
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