1 00:00:05,900 --> 00:00:09,200 Hello folks, this is Princess you are listening to the 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,200 millennial Mustard Seed, pod casts. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,600 Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,200 friends. I stopped wearing a very tough 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,700 spot. I think that what we're doing 6 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:24,000 right now is a great benefit and virtue because it's an 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,400 end-around between this whole corrupt informational system 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,700 media system. We claim to believe in a God who 9 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:35,100 spoke the universe into existence and literally raised 10 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:39,500 himself from the dead and yet, we're not going to believe that 11 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:42,500 anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though his 12 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:46,200 word tells us that they do, their bodies weren't permitted 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,500 to go to sleep, like humans, do and there were permitted to go 14 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:54,100 to heaven. So they wander the Earth, you 15 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:57,800 know, I've seen the eyes turned black to unknown tongues being 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,400 spoken. These Giants will love way up in 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,400 the home. We out Graves. 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,600 The young man was hiding in the trees and wait for one of these 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,600 12 Footers to come walking down the path and they would kill 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:21,200 him, Dragon back. Then people start to get 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,400 weapons, I start to get armor, they start to build cities. 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,800 They saw the fortify their cities now, God looks down, and 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,000 there's violence everywhere. The battle this war that we are 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,900 at, is not against each other. It's against these 25 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:36,500 principalities in these rulers in, these are cons in high 26 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:39,000 places. It's really worthwhile to read 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,500 the Bible years, fear is one of the primary drivers of mind 28 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:47,600 control because we have to take every thought captive and 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,900 resist. Fear. 30 00:01:51,700 --> 00:01:56,700 You're going to have a testimony that is a Justice case against 31 00:01:56,700 --> 00:02:09,900 the kingdom of darkness. Welcome back to the millennial 32 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:14,000 Mustard Seed pod cast, I have an excellent episode in store for 33 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,100 you guys. Pastor, Sean Conroy is here he 34 00:02:18,100 --> 00:02:20,300 is. A part of the prodigal sons 35 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:24,400 podcast, these guys are local to me and they have an amazing 36 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,600 show. Is story is a heartfelt one. 37 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:30,600 I know that this is going to touch somebody out there. 38 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:34,700 I really enjoyed this conversation and I know you guys 39 00:02:34,700 --> 00:02:38,000 will as well. Don't forget to check the show 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,500 notes on each episode. You guys, the description, you 41 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:45,400 can find the email to contact me and I want to thank you for the 42 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,600 people who have been emailing and encouraging and Asking 43 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,600 questions and commenting and sharing their stories with me 44 00:02:52,700 --> 00:02:55,500 via email. And if I missed you guys, I'm 45 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:59,900 sorry, please read the email me again, but it's definitely 46 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:03,500 encouraging and I love getting feedback from the listeners. 47 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,800 We all have a story and a testimony to share and it's an 48 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,100 honor to have shared the stories I've already shared and there's 49 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:15,800 plenty more to come. You guys leave me that five star 50 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,200 rating review, that helps the show grow, it helps. 51 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,300 Us get connected with more people like us and I'm ready for 52 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:23,900 this episode. I'm not going to waste any more 53 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:26,000 time. Are you guys ready? 54 00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:47,000 Let's go. Hey, how are you to Sean 55 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,400 O'Connell from the follicle cells podcast and I'm here on 56 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,900 millennial Mustard Seed. He's a verification. 57 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,300 That's a good old intro, Sean. It's good to have you here with 58 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:57,500 me, man. Thank It's good to be here. 59 00:03:57,500 --> 00:04:00,000 I'll tell you what, man? Wife has been crazy. 60 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,000 So, trying to get the word out and be with the another brother 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,500 in Christ, man, this just makes that makes my day. 62 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,400 There's something about when we dwell together in unity and 63 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,600 other people being aware of who's who, where we're at. 64 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,399 And what's going on? I think is so important. 65 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:19,899 Just kind of walk us into your upbringing what brought you to 66 00:04:19,899 --> 00:04:22,700 Christ and to everything that you're doing today. 67 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:26,500 Sure. So I was born and raised. 68 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:33,300 Boston, Massachusetts, born and raised Roman Catholic, which we 69 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:36,900 could talk about for a whole episode by itself, but nothing 70 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:38,800 against them. It's just, I don't, you know, 71 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,800 we're gonna have disagreements across the board as correct as 72 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,200 Christians but some mom. So that was my early life, my 73 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,800 grandmother was always a huge spiritual part of my life as a 74 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,000 kid. She's the one that took me to 75 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,100 church. She's the one that taught me 76 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:52,700 about Christ. She's the one talking about the 77 00:04:52,700 --> 00:04:56,500 Lord and so I did that for years. 78 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,900 Ears. And then when I was 16, my 79 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:02,000 mother got sick. She got cancer, and she passed 80 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,300 away, and when you believe and there's nobody here on Earth to 81 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:10,800 get mad at, who you get mad at. And for me, I took that out on 82 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:16,200 God and I spent 20 years on my own, trying to figure it out, 83 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,900 trying to find a better way, trying to flick. 84 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:21,100 Why would God do this to me? So I just spent years being 85 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:25,100 angry with the Lord. And man that's tough. 86 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:27,300 I'll tell you what. Like that is no way to live, 87 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:32,100 but, you know, God is good. And by his grace we are, we he 88 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:34,000 never gives up on us. He never leaves us like when I 89 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,800 look back, now I can see a thousand times that God stepped 90 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,900 in on my wife and was like, nope, even though I was mad at 91 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:40,900 him, wasn't talking to him, he still didn't let me get in the 92 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:48,200 trouble, I deserved, but back in 2013, me and the mother of my 93 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,400 kids had broken up. We went our separate ways after 94 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:58,200 15 years and I literally went to a six-month drunken coma. 95 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,500 I guess is the best way I can put it. 96 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:02,000 I would wake up and drink. I would drink all day at work. 97 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,900 I would drink all night. Till I fell asleep and I just, I 98 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:08,400 shut down from the world and I didn't know what to do with 99 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,200 myself. And I went out for my birthday 100 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:16,100 into April 2014 and it was my actual birthday and my 101 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:18,700 rebirthday. So in kind of they coincide but 102 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:22,600 I was I was so messed up, I couldn't spell the word car 103 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,900 went. Alone drive one and I'm flying 104 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:28,900 down for 20 to do like 120 miles an hour. 105 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Steering with my knee. I like a cigarette in my cell. 106 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,600 Phone on one hand, i'm talking I had a beer can in the console. 107 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,200 I had a bottle of whiskey in my other hand you know just out of 108 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:45,500 control. And when I got down past Oaks on 109 00:06:45,500 --> 00:06:50,000 the 422, I was heading east the westbound way like I know like 110 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:55,500 those a spends just passed Ford Just past the Oaks exit. 111 00:06:56,300 --> 00:07:00,500 I looked into the left foot in the left lane and which I'm sure 112 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:02,200 none of that is going to make any sense to some of your 113 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,000 wisdom, as they have no idea what I'm talking about. 114 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,000 Anyway, it's a high area for police. 115 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,900 Usually, they're, so it's by the grace of God. 116 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:11,800 I even made it that far as intoxicated as I was. 117 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,900 And, but I look over in the westbound Lane heading back 118 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:18,600 towards where I lived, and there's two cars, it's like 2:30 119 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,200 in the morning. I was trying to go to the casino 120 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,100 because I know the casino serve drinks. 121 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,100 True. They start till like 5:00 in the 122 00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:26,400 morning. Now that I need another drink 123 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,100 but that's what I wanted. And so these two cars were 124 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:31,600 pulled over hazard lights on. I could see the front car their 125 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,000 bottom, but they're back bumper was down and the front, the back 126 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,300 car, their front bumper was down, I can see there were kids 127 00:07:37,300 --> 00:07:39,400 in the car and I could see moms of people upset. 128 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,500 So it was April is around like spring break, time for school 129 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:45,800 and I'm thinking two families. I went to Disneyland had a great 130 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,500 week, came home a little, jet-lagged had a little fender 131 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:50,700 bender or 2:30 in the morning. Coming home from the airport 132 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:53,100 either I can't verify that. That's my gas as For what had 133 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:56,600 happened. But for me, I'm a numbers guy. 134 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,700 Like I crunch numbers and, you know, when a plane leaves Boston 135 00:08:00,700 --> 00:08:03,700 at 9 a.m. and the train we've Chicago at 10, a.m. where do 136 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:05,500 they meet a? My thinking was, if I had been 137 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:09,200 coming the other way, doing the same thing at the same time when 138 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,200 they had, their little fender bender Ida come through when I 139 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,800 to hit them all which was a very eye-opening experience in the 140 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:22,000 moment, you know, because I'm immediately thinking, man, I 141 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,400 could have killed all. These people. 142 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:28,400 And so I pulled over just before the Audobon exit about half a 143 00:08:28,407 --> 00:08:31,600 mile up the road. And I threw the bottle out the 144 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,600 window, I threw the cigarette out, the window, through the 145 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,700 beer, can out the window. I probably threw the phone out 146 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:38,000 the window to see through it all out moment. 147 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:45,200 But and I just started to cry. I just started to weep and I I 148 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,900 just said, God, I can't do this anymore. 149 00:08:47,300 --> 00:08:50,800 I'm done. I know I had before this, I had 150 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:55,000 I had checked out and other religions I had gone to a 151 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,500 mosque. So it's that was what I was 152 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:00,700 checking in. Islam was checking a Judaism. 153 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:03,800 I was checking into Buddhist, I don't know if you know this but 154 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,300 there is a religion dedicated to the dude from Big Lebowski 155 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:12,900 there's a whole religion related to dudeism but that's what they 156 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:15,300 call it. I looked into that and nothing 157 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:18,300 really seemed to catch my attention but I whoa. 158 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:19,900 Yeah. Like I looked into water. 159 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:24,300 I spent months trying to figure some stuff out and I didn't want 160 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:27,100 to turn back to God. I was still very angry with them 161 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:29,600 and I was like, there's no way there's no way there's got to be 162 00:09:29,608 --> 00:09:34,100 another answer and in that moment when I, you know, in a 163 00:09:34,108 --> 00:09:37,800 drunken rage and stupor and seeing that, and I said, I just 164 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,700 the first First words out of my mouth reward. 165 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:41,400 I can't do this anymore, God, take it. 166 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,100 I can't. I cannot do this anymore and 167 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:48,400 That's out there for a couple hours. 168 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,500 I'm sure. Just crying and so the sun came 169 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:56,800 up and I got now I drove home. And at that point I was like, 170 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,600 okay, this is I got to do something different two weeks 171 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,800 later, my brother got married. I was his best, man. 172 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,600 A pastor friend of mine that I've known for years and 173 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,300 actually I was extremely rude to him. 174 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,000 I was his Salah Tarsus. You know, I persecuted him for 175 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,900 being a Christian because I was angry with God. 176 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,700 And he He officiated the wedding and he kept bugging me for like 177 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:21,200 two days, you know, the rehearsal in the wedding. 178 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,000 He's like man, you alright. And I'm like yeah I'm good. 179 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,200 Everything's fine again. I was, I was drinking at the 180 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:31,500 wedding and was really messed up and all night had been puppy was 181 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:33,500 like this this prick in the back of my neck. 182 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:36,000 Like something's poking me in the back of the neck saying why 183 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,200 are you lying. We'll just tell this man what's 184 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,200 goings, your friend, tell him what's going on and I wouldn't 185 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:48,200 but then I got home that night. And I texted my buddy and was 186 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,500 just like, no no I'm lying, I'm full of it. 187 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:54,100 Nothing's right, nothing's good. Everything's just kind of going 188 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:57,000 crazy. And so don't like 30 seconds, he 189 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,900 messaged me back and says, listen come meet with me 190 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:02,700 tonight. Are you no waiter tonight and my 191 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:05,300 office, you know, where it is around 6:00, we'll meet, we'll 192 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:08,300 talk. And we'll see where things are 193 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:12,900 going and I did I, when I met with them and we did some some, 194 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:18,700 some prayer and just talk And I was able to unload a lot of 195 00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:23,300 things that have been bothering me and so at that point, you 196 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:30,000 know, I was crying and a baby most of the meeting and then the 197 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,300 end of the conversation, like it is, we're getting ready to like, 198 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,200 you know, call it a night. And then we're both going to 199 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,700 head home. So it's getting kind of late. 200 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,600 I decided to to ask Christ into my heart right there in the 201 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,600 moment, had a whole prayer with the Lord and vitamin just it was 202 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,500 you got to take over? I just, I have no control, I 203 00:11:46,508 --> 00:11:50,500 have no idea what's going on, and I'm just a mess. 204 00:11:50,700 --> 00:11:54,700 And so that point I started I met with him for a few more 205 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:57,300 weeks in his office. And then after like, six 206 00:11:57,300 --> 00:12:02,200 meetings, I decided to start attending service at Birds 207 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,900 Borough Church of the Nazarene that's where he was pastoring at 208 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:09,800 the time and Got there. You know, started started 209 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:14,800 healing and started being filled. 210 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,500 And really just getting, you know, the information and the 211 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:21,800 parts of the white, my life that I hadn't been receiving, and it 212 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,600 was pretty amazing. And at that point, I had to 213 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,100 realize that I had to answer a call in that, I have been 214 00:12:28,100 --> 00:12:31,000 receiving since I was a little kid since about 6 or 7 years 215 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:37,300 old, and it was a calling to Pastor the preach and I couldn't 216 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:40,000 ignore it anymore, it was just too much, it was too heavy on 217 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,700 me. It was in my heart and on my 218 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:46,700 mind at all times. And so I just gave in and I 219 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:48,600 started the process and it's a whole process. 220 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,300 I mean every church has their process and they were issues and 221 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:54,500 bumps. Along the way there was, you 222 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:56,800 know, issues of financial aid for schooling and stuff. 223 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,800 And a lot of stuff that, you know, kept me from. 224 00:13:00,900 --> 00:13:03,800 But the thing is, I knew that God had me going in the 225 00:13:03,808 --> 00:13:06,400 direction he wanted me. So I wasn't going to let me, let 226 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,800 me. Down at that point. 227 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:10,000 So just kept moving forward. I kept plugging for and wherever 228 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,200 I couldn't get done in the moment like some of the stuff 229 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,400 with the government and financial aid and stuff. 230 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:18,000 I had to push past, I had to keep going and then there was a 231 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:20,500 other programs that came along that was able to help out and 232 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:23,600 stuff. So you know, I'm still going 233 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,500 along doing doing my process to get ordained. 234 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:31,300 They still have a couple years more classes to do, but I know 235 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:34,000 I'm definitely heading in the right direction now and going 236 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,500 where it where God is leading me. 237 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:40,300 That's pretty amazing feeling to know that no matter what you've 238 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:42,600 done, no matter where you've been what you've come from. 239 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:46,500 Even when you don't want God to be in your situation, I don't 240 00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:48,400 want to be part of your life, you don't want him to have 241 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,700 anything to do with them, he literally will stand there and 242 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:55,700 just wait and just be like, I've been here the whole time but 243 00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:57,800 whatever I can do to help you out, that's what I'm here for. 244 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,900 And that's just an amazing feeling that, you know, even in 245 00:14:00,908 --> 00:14:03,700 the bad times, you've always got Christ in a right there with 246 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:05,300 you. Yeah. 247 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:07,600 That's that's such a powerful testimony. 248 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,900 I mean Just listening to everything that you went 249 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:14,600 through, you know, like you lose your mother when you're young, 250 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,900 you spend 20 years in the world just chasing everything that was 251 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:23,700 not meant for you and and how enter your grandmother had like 252 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:27,900 kind of like prophesied like she used her her terms from, you 253 00:14:27,908 --> 00:14:31,000 know, the Catholic background above what she thought you were 254 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,900 going to be. But and, you know, sometimes 255 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:36,300 people around us, they're going to pick up on the fact that 256 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:40,300 there's an anointing on her life even Even though it can look 257 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:43,600 really rough and ugly on the outside and then, you know, you 258 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,300 go through this. Like, I mean you're single dad, 259 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,900 like you're taking care of your kids. 260 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:55,300 Yeah, if you are literally at this place we're in your 261 00:14:55,300 --> 00:15:00,000 testimony or winding down to the end of your way of doing things. 262 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:07,600 And starting to understand the calling and where you are today. 263 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,800 I mean it's just fascinating because there's so many people I 264 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,100 talk to off air or even on air and it's just like that story 265 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:18,600 shows. Different details, different 266 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,600 places different names and different extreme aspects but 267 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:28,200 there's something to it. When the men and women who are 268 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,300 being called by the Living, God start to wake up and understand 269 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:36,600 the truth is definitely Stranger Than Fiction. 270 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,400 There's something more going on here. 271 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:43,800 I can't keep living the way that I have been living, and it's 272 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,000 edifying to hear that because there's there's a listener. 273 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:49,400 Out there, I just know it. I know there's somebody out 274 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,300 there who's going to be able to relate to your story. 275 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,000 So, showing I want to ask you with the prodigal sons podcast. 276 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,400 Now you guys are local to me. I actually moved out of the 277 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,600 neighborhood like two months ago, currently residing at an 278 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,000 undisclosed location. Still in the Southeastern 279 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,100 Pennsylvania area taking that line from l.a. 280 00:16:09,100 --> 00:16:14,400 Marzulli. I want to ask you about the 281 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,000 show. You got a couple host you guys. 282 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:19,400 Come together. You just kind of rough it and 283 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:25,700 just raw material content. Just expressing what you guys 284 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:29,600 are going through and rustling through all these ideas Brothers 285 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,200 together in unity. Tell us tell us about the show. 286 00:16:32,300 --> 00:16:35,700 Tell us about your show so I have prodigal sons. 287 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,500 Yeah, we've been at it, we started actually during the 288 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:42,500 pandemic March 20 2008 right at the beginning of the pandemic, 289 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:44,900 right? As everything's the everything's 290 00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:50,100 hitting the fan so to say God just put it on me like to do. 291 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,300 Like a radio show or something. And I went to another gentleman 292 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:55,500 in the church and brought the idea to him like, Hey would you 293 00:16:55,500 --> 00:16:58,500 do this with me? And he was on board and I had a 294 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,600 there was a radio station down in Conshohocken that a couple 295 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,500 Pastor friends of mine ran and we're going to jump in with 296 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:07,800 them. We're going to get a slot time 297 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,000 slot on there you know on their at their state and their studio 298 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:18,099 and when I called to get air time, you know they were like 299 00:17:18,099 --> 00:17:21,900 hey with some we apologize but we're closing the studio like 300 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:23,800 the rent. Got ridiculous and not willing 301 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,900 to work with us. They just don't want us here and 302 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:28,400 things are not going to you know we're shutting everything down. 303 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,100 We're actually going to move on from this and it's kind of like 304 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:37,200 it was kind of a gut punch and So, I went back and talk to my 305 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,900 pastor and we prayed with over it and I said, you know, pastor 306 00:17:41,100 --> 00:17:46,900 Pastor Peter Clark, I said Pete, you know, we really need to, I 307 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:48,600 need to do something, I need to find a way to do this. 308 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,100 So I can, you know, you know, anybody in the Nazarene Church. 309 00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:53,200 It does something like this and he goes, I don't know anybody, 310 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:58,700 he goes but We have room there was four rooms in the basement 311 00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:02,600 of our church that were kind of not used very much, nice clean 312 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,100 spaces but just unused, you know, a lot of churches have 313 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:08,700 these unused rooms sometimes we had so like four rooms and so he 314 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:10,400 said you're more than welcome because the church will help 315 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,500 purchase equipment and you know, whatever you need, let's get it 316 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:14,900 going. Like I really think this will 317 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:18,000 help especially with this pandemics going on you know you 318 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,300 get the word out but you don't have to, you know, people have 319 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:23,300 to come and that you can get just get it out and people can 320 00:18:23,300 --> 00:18:27,500 hear this information. So, We announced it at a Sunday 321 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:29,700 service that we were going to look into doing this. 322 00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:32,300 And if anybody wanted to help help us build the studio paint, 323 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:35,400 stuff like that. And that afternoon, I got a text 324 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,100 from Dave Duncan who's on the show with me. 325 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,200 He text and say he was I was a lot of podcast. 326 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,700 I'm really like I'd like to be able to help with this if I can 327 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:48,500 like you know, even it's just like a producer or behind the 328 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:51,400 scene stuff and sounds like yeah, man, we're meeting 329 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,800 Wednesday night. Come on down and then I spoke to 330 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,200 Pastor Tom Vera. And I asked him because I felt 331 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,000 like God was calling him into the situation and we had another 332 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,600 Gentleman on the show. That started with me John, I 333 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,200 immediately went to the idea with and so we said we got 334 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,800 started and we started doing the show and things were the first 335 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,100 that we met. My son was with me. 336 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:20,300 Was me Dave, this other gentleman, Tom me, and my son 337 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,900 and Pastor Pete, and my son or setting up a cell phone and like 338 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:30,300 we have, we really had some bad equipment when we first, we 339 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:33,400 didn't have a whole lot. We had no mixing board from the 340 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,100 church. That was kind of beat up and we 341 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:39,800 just got an audio interface like an audio input for four mics and 342 00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:42,400 that plugged into an old cellphone that somebody had, and 343 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,100 that's what we use. We use an old cellphone and we 344 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:47,100 just went on Facebook live, and then we downloaded that 345 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:49,600 recording to like my laptop. And then we put that out on 346 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,100 anchor to the podcast platforms. But so, we did that. 347 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:56,300 And then we brought another Elijah Griffin. 348 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:58,500 Who's on the show still who's with us? 349 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:01,800 Now, he's our fourth and you know, we just came up with this 350 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,200 idea in the beginning that it was going to be prodigal sons. 351 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,800 We were all from different backgrounds and we'd all kind of 352 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,200 had that product a wife like me where I was 20 years away from 353 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,000 the Lord. And then he brought me back in 354 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,400 and all the other for the other three gentlemen also have those 355 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,100 kind of similar backstories. So when we prodigal sons and and 356 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:24,000 our motto is Real Real Men, Real Faith, real talk and you know, 357 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,700 so we who are who we are. If you met me on the street, I'm 358 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:28,800 the same guy on the show that I am on the street. 359 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,200 So these guys, we just, we share our faith and we just want, you 360 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,600 know, we're kind of, you know, if you watch the podcast it's 361 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,400 like a mix of Impractical Jokers and a couple of pastors. 362 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,800 We really, just tell all the jokes and we pick on each other. 363 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,300 We're brothers. So we, you know, we pick on each 364 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:48,700 other and if anybody does anything during the week that we 365 00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:50,700 find to be funny, you know, somebody does something. 366 00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:54,200 So, you know, something, ridiculous, or we bring it up, 367 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,200 we talk about it. We don't hold it. 368 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,800 Act like, you know, we just we just bring it up. 369 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,600 I've had issues where, you know, unfortunately driving is a big 370 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,400 pet peeve of mine. I tend to get a little bit of 371 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,000 road rage. I get a little aggravated with 372 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,800 bad drivers and so like I yell, I know they can't hear me but I 373 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,900 yell anyway. And that comes up a lot on the 374 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:16,700 show and you know, because I tell them we tell each other 375 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:18,400 everything so they know. So they always bring it out 376 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,400 with, you know, we just, it's really a really good 377 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,700 accountability group for me, and for the into the other guys, as 378 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:27,100 well. Keep keep ourselves in check and 379 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:30,600 having that Fellowship to keep us grounded in together and move 380 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,900 into forward in the same direction. 381 00:21:31,900 --> 00:21:33,900 We're all called to do the same thing with this with this 382 00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:36,100 podcast and it's just been amazing. 383 00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:40,300 Like I said it's been Shu. It's been almost three years 384 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:44,500 Marshall, be three years and wrote 122 episodes in. 385 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:48,400 And, you know, at one point we're kind of, like, do we do 386 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,400 this? Like, is there still more 387 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,600 topics? We can talk about, we've been 388 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,700 doing this for a long time and then, you know, God's like 389 00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:57,800 really all the things that I have in the Bible and you guys 390 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,800 are done run coming up with topics, all the things that 391 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,200 happen in the world on a daily basis, you guys can't think of a 392 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,900 good topic to come up with and sure enough. 393 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:06,900 But we know we went back to the drawing board and came up with a 394 00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:08,800 new plan for how we come up. Topics. 395 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,100 And so they just keep coming. So it keeps providing and it's 396 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:13,900 been. It's been an amazing experience. 397 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,500 Just to be a part of it because we've had people come up. 398 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,300 I was in Walmart here by in Exeter kind of near where I live 399 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:27,000 and I have my prodigal sons t-shirt on with our logo on it. 400 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,400 And this woman walked up and she's like, oh, I love the 401 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,000 shirt. Where did you get it? 402 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,900 And I said, oh well and then she looks at me and I started to 403 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:39,200 talk She was awake, you're the guy from the show, her father 404 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,300 listens to us. He's a pastor in the reading 405 00:22:41,300 --> 00:22:44,800 area and he listens to us and she recognized me because he 406 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,800 makes her watch it once in a while that's awesome. 407 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,200 Yeah, it was kind of neat like, you know, and she kind of went 408 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,500 into, like, how it, how it affect her father's. 409 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,400 He was older. She was about my age. 410 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,600 I'm in my mid-40s early to mid 40s. 411 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,100 She was about my age. I'm going to say she was in her 412 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:05,300 mid to early 30s, honor respect, but she was so her father was An 413 00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:09,100 older Pastor, who was kind of, I don't believe he was now fully 414 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:11,500 at the end of his career. But he was kind of at like, the 415 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,800 way she was telling me like he was at a point where he was 416 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,800 like, considering retiring somehow he found us and he was a 417 00:23:18,808 --> 00:23:21,900 couple of, you know, a couple of us are pastors on the show. 418 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Dave has reached before, he's not, he's not going forward 419 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,300 nature, anybody, preaches. He preaches on a fairly 420 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:30,200 consistent basis, like once or twice a year, three times a 421 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,000 year, and he goes to other churches. 422 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,300 Other pastors in the district, calling him to preach and It was 423 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:39,500 this older past, it was kind of like listen to us. 424 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:42,900 And by the grace of God, he found a renewed sense of spirit 425 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,800 in his calling, which to me, was just mind-blowing to this 426 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,400 gentleman, who's been doing it for years. 427 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:52,300 Find something, and us being goofballs, and being ourselves 428 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,900 and making jokes, and and being biblical. 429 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:58,000 At the same time, bringing it, bringing in stories and sharing 430 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,700 our experiences. But I think that's really what 431 00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:01,300 it's about. I mean, if we're not sharing our 432 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:04,600 experiences and we're not talking about the truth of what 433 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,100 happens, like, If we just try to make Christianity all sunshine 434 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:11,000 and rainbows, I think we're letting a lot of people down, 435 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,500 absolutely, you know, we're feeling new Christians. 436 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,500 If we pretend that it's all sunshine and rainbows, and we're 437 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:24,000 not human, like pastor does not mean above, there's nowhere in 438 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,000 the in that title, there's nowhere in that, that means 439 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,300 above the people. Like, you know, I think 440 00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:33,800 sometimes, unfortunately, we tend to put pastors on a 441 00:24:33,808 --> 00:24:37,700 pedestal because Because, you know, they're called to preach 442 00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:41,700 and they're called to teach and we're called to lead, but that 443 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:46,000 doesn't make. Any any difference to God? 444 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,900 We're still almost always showed me love this. 445 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:50,300 Whole the same. And I think sometimes we forget 446 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:54,800 that and we think that sometimes pastors are our God like more 447 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,900 holy for some reason. And that's one of the things 448 00:24:57,900 --> 00:25:00,100 I've had to learn over the last couple of years and not that 449 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:02,900 I've ever let being a pastor, go to my head but trying to keep 450 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:07,200 people in check like read the Bible, you're a minister just as 451 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,400 much as I am, we're all called to Ministry. 452 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,800 We're all called to minister to those who don't who do No 453 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,900 Christ. So we're all ministers. 454 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,800 I've just been asked to speak in front of the congregation. 455 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,200 That's the only real difference. I understand. 456 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,100 Yes we do. We do you know we hold to a 457 00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,700 higher respect. You know how higher standard and 458 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,800 you want in your lead? But we're all, we're all 459 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,500 ministers, we're all supposed to minister. 460 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:34,900 So everybody's job is diminish. There's just a different calling 461 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,800 and I think we all have a calling but I think some of us 462 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,800 are called to do something just a little bit different. 463 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,200 And I think that's a big thing. Remember That We're All in This 464 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Road Together. We're all heading in the same 465 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,500 direction, and if we forget to stop at the roadside and pick 466 00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:51,300 somebody up, Who's down, or at least just talk with them, you 467 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:52,900 know, so they get encouragement along the way. 468 00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:57,000 And sometimes we need to share when we're down and get 469 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,400 encouragement and be lifted up. I mean, Moses even had Aaron and 470 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,700 Hur to lift his arms when he couldn't, when he couldn't hold 471 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:07,000 him up anymore. I think there's a lot of times 472 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,400 that we forget his Christians. It's not Sunshine's rainbows and 473 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,100 it drags us into a position where we can be drug down 474 00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:18,600 because we're Pride Prides a big one you know nobody wants to 475 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,000 admit their dirty little secrets or when they're hurt or being 476 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,500 bothering. I think we kind of just push 477 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:25,900 that to the side and we pretend like it didn't happen and we 478 00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:29,800 don't want to deal with it. And I think that's that's where 479 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,400 we missed the point. I think we're in this together. 480 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,600 We're families, were brothers and sisters, like there is 481 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,900 nothing that has happened in my life that I should not be able 482 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:42,200 to tell you or tell somebody that listens to this podcast or 483 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,800 my podcast that you know me and my rose. 484 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:47,000 They could call in Hey, listen, I heard what you said but I 485 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,500 don't understand how I can do that and we can talk about that. 486 00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:54,100 Tell me what your problems are. You know, for Me, Like Jesus 487 00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:58,100 said, my yoke is light and my burden or my yoke is easy. 488 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:02,000 And my burden is light. I think we forget when we start 489 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,200 sharing that information, those hard times, the things that are 490 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,100 that are beating us up the things that are dragging us 491 00:27:07,108 --> 00:27:09,900 down. When we share that, it literally 492 00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:11,800 lightens our load. It doesn't make it heavier. 493 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,700 It doesn't make it harder to deal with. 494 00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,700 I've been going through it for the last, you know, six months 495 00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:22,300 to a year now, where some things have happened in my life and in 496 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,800 my church life, and it just kind of beat me up and Drug me down. 497 00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:31,100 And I kind of gave into because, you know, my work as I'm not a, 498 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:35,300 I'm not a paid Pastor, I work a secular job and it's been 499 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:38,400 brutal. It got been one person for I do 500 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,900 maintenance work. And I've 66 house in responsible 501 00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:43,700 for. So I got burned out in my work 502 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:46,500 life. Send translated over into my 503 00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:49,900 spiritual life and my emotional life and it just beat me down 504 00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:52,100 and beat me down. Instead of going to my brothers 505 00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:55,600 and sisters, instead of going to my pastor and I just kept 506 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,700 thinking, man, I'll get through this, I just gotta carry me 507 00:27:57,700 --> 00:27:58,800 through this God will bring me the in. 508 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,500 God does bring us through it, don't get there. 509 00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:02,600 Were days that I should have been able to take it. 510 00:28:02,608 --> 00:28:04,800 Two steps out my front door, but he kept me going. 511 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,700 But if we're not sharing our burdens with one another, if 512 00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,700 we're not leaning on one another, if we're not sharing 513 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:13,800 our experiences so other people can, you know can be brought up 514 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,700 through something that we've shared. 515 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,100 Are so, maybe they don't hit those. 516 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,000 Those bumps in the road that we do it. 517 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Did that makes our journey so much more difficult and the 518 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,900 problem is you can't see spiritual warfare, so when you 519 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:30,600 let something affect you and it's it's there, the enemy will 520 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,600 use that and sometimes the enemy doesn't matter. 521 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,800 Sometimes the stuff that we do has nothing to do with the 522 00:28:34,808 --> 00:28:37,000 Enemy. We beat ourselves up more than 523 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,300 the denim. We will half the time. 524 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:41,300 Anyway, we are harder on ourselves and we get ourselves 525 00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:42,600 in a more trouble than the enemy. 526 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,300 Ever will have to have his job is done. 527 00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:47,300 Sometimes, It's because of what we think inside our own heads, 528 00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:50,800 where owners, worst enemy, sometimes, but spiritual for is 529 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,000 real. And when you start to, for me, I 530 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,500 know, I was fighting it because I wasn't sharing, because I 531 00:28:56,500 --> 00:29:00,000 wasn't leaning in. I hadn't been attending church 532 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,900 for four weeks, and when you start to disconnect, you start 533 00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:07,600 to recluse yourself. God doesn't walk away but it's a 534 00:29:07,608 --> 00:29:10,500 lot harder for the Holy Spirit to work through you into work 535 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,000 through other people with you to help lift you up and encourage 536 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,500 you, because they don't know what's going on because you're 537 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:16,400 not sharing and for me, that's what I did. 538 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,300 And it was like, quicksand. Like I was just felt like I was 539 00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:20,600 on this island by myself, and it started to sink and I was 540 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,600 drowning by myself out there alone. 541 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,200 Now we know that's not true, but we know the enemy will take that 542 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,700 and he will build upon that. He will be was press into that 543 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:35,500 he'll twist it and manipulate it and makes us just want to say I 544 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,600 just want to recluse herself just back off and we run you 545 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,200 know a lot like Jonah God gives us this this this task this this 546 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,600 process this journey And something happens, and it 547 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,100 doesn't go the way we want. Or, you know, somebody says 548 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:52,300 something we didn't like about it. 549 00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:56,000 We just we run and we try to hide from it instead of pressing 550 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,600 into it. So maybe I can't carry this 551 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,500 burden by myself. But if I had asked for help, if 552 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,100 I'd reached out how much easier would have been for me to go 553 00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,800 forward, I wouldn't have been in the whale and the belly of the 554 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,000 whale for six months, eight months a year. 555 00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:14,900 So there's there's many different seasons in the 556 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:17,700 Christian walk. Oh definitely. 557 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,200 And in my experience like there's there's definitely times 558 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,600 where we're meant to be in the desert Because God doesn't want 559 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,400 any other voices in her head other than his? 560 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,700 And then there's times where it's, like, and I mentioned this 561 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,800 on another episode. Where's like when David in the 562 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:41,000 men come in and they're out, they're exposing the enemy like 563 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:44,000 Warfare and they come in and they eat the showbread off the 564 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,100 table because they're like, look were starving. 565 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,800 And I think with the body of Christ, well, like we need to 566 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,800 like see it from this aspect of like when a brother comes in 567 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,000 from the desert. Bert, who's got the gift of 568 00:30:56,008 --> 00:30:59,000 healing, the gift of servitude, right? 569 00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:03,800 Or because we might need some wounds wrapped. 570 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,400 And then who's, you know, the encourager and there should be 571 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,900 many. Many of those gifts within the 572 00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:13,500 meeting places but what you're saying I can relate to some of 573 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:16,500 it. And what I was thinking is just, 574 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:21,800 it's hard sometimes to put all the stock in just a fellowship 575 00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:26,900 because God may want to say, Wanting to us that nobody else 576 00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:30,500 can hear. And then there's times where we 577 00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:33,300 need nothing more than to be with Brothers, dwelling together 578 00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:35,300 in unity. So I love hearing those 579 00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:38,800 experiences and just I'm saying that more for the listeners and 580 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,200 a reminder to myself. And for you Pastor showing 581 00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:45,000 because there's many different ways that God is doing things 582 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,500 that doesn't make sense to us. But when we get together and we 583 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,200 encourage each other like just, you know, another local 584 00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:55,600 podcaster, you know, you guys Are over there, doing awesome 585 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,600 stuff on the prodigal, son. I love the sense of humor. 586 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:02,000 I've listened to a couple episodes and you put out a lot 587 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 of content. I've probably listen to, like, 588 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000 five to seven of your shows, over the last like, year or two 589 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,400 and I've liked everything I heard. 590 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,700 It's for me, I'm like, yo that's should be like the after-hours 591 00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,800 spot on the Sunday when Church closes, like everybody's like, 592 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,300 get out of here. I'm trying to go to the waffle 593 00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,100 place, right? I'm trying to hide. 594 00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,900 There's a sale over it. Season. 595 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:26,900 I'm like, I don't even congregate with people like 596 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:28,900 that. First of all, you know, more or 597 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:31,000 less like, in the gutter with people that are limping around 598 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,400 prophesying and and fighting spiritual battles, and educating 599 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,000 ourselves, so that we can be Iron worthy to sharpen on other 600 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,600 iron. But when I hear what you guys 601 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,000 are doing, I'm like man, if I was attending all the time 602 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,100 locally at like a building, I would want like church to end 603 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,800 and grab a coffee and like that. Be the conversation. 604 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,600 Like what you guys are doing it? Like another the humor and then 605 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,400 you're tackling. Are real issues, real topics, 606 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,100 real ideas. So I definitely feel like 607 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,100 there's going to be a part. Two down the road. 608 00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:06,600 I would love to even like link up at some point in time with 609 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,800 like all the guys that you're on the panel with over there on the 610 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,600 show were really. There's a lot that I can't 611 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,200 divulge on right now, but a lot going on behind the scenes and 612 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,200 it kind of like the Christian and the Christian Fringe seen. 613 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:24,600 You know this is like all around the country at this point but I 614 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,800 love identifying like, who's who, where we at? 615 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,400 And let's lock arms. Wright brothers dwelling 616 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,500 together in unity. And I think the four of you over 617 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:37,200 there on the show are demonstrating that they just 618 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,300 being real. Having a sense of humor, you 619 00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:43,300 know, and diving into these real topics and just sharing each 620 00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:45,400 other's testimonies that's encouraging for me. 621 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,200 So, I got to kind of wind down here with you, Sean, but I want 622 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,900 you to just answer this for me and the listeners if you had 623 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:55,900 one. Last message you could give to 624 00:33:55,900 --> 00:34:00,400 the body of Christ. God was like listen. 625 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,100 This is the last time I'm going to have you on air. 626 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:05,600 I know you love doing this. I'm calling you into deeper 627 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,800 waters. What would you say to the body 628 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,199 of Christ? And you're going to give me 629 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,199 preaching here soon, but I'll try and keep it short because 630 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,800 there is there's some main points that I've learned over 631 00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,699 over the last, you know, eight or nine years of one, never lose 632 00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:26,300 your faith. Always trust a no matter what 633 00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:30,500 you're going through, no matter how deep the water The Lord will 634 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:34,100 always part it for you. It may not be the way you look, 635 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,199 it may not be the way you want but he's going to part that 636 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,600 bought water for you. If you have the faith of a 637 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,500 mustard seed since we're here, he will move a mountain if you 638 00:34:43,507 --> 00:34:45,600 wanted to. It may not be the whole Mountain 639 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,900 will not jump up and get into the ocean. 640 00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:52,400 But one rock one Boulder, one ton of sand at a time he's going 641 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,500 to move that thing little by little by little. 642 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:56,300 And sometimes we just have to be patient. 643 00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,300 Always keep your faith, always trust that God is going to do 644 00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:00,600 exactly. Actually what he said he's going 645 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,600 to do. Don't worry about it in your 646 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,200 time because you'll never get there if you try to worry about 647 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,000 it from the human perspective and from the human time, trust 648 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,300 that God is going to move. If he has to move it one Pebble 649 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:14,700 at a time, he's going to do it or he's going to move the whole 650 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:16,800 Mountain if he needs to move the whole mountain, right then and 651 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,900 there but keep the faith, no matter what happens. 652 00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:23,800 Because coming through, on the other side of the mountain is 653 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,200 always going to be peace and joy, you can always you're going 654 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,300 to have a life of frustration. You're going to have a life of 655 00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,700 chaos, but keep your faith and keep Keep moving forward to the 656 00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:34,100 peace, and the joy that he provides. 657 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,400 Very well said, man that there's some wisdom and season and that 658 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,300 for sure. Do you want to let the listeners 659 00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:45,600 know where they can find a link to your guys podcast over there 660 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,800 on the prodigal sons and anything else you like just 661 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,000 closes out here anything else you want to share with us before 662 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,900 we get off and I just I appreciate it. 663 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:56,400 Gave me an opportunity to come on and talk with you. 664 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,600 We've talked a few times, we've been trying to do this for a 665 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,700 minute, trying to get together and we finally got together. 666 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:03,300 Even had some small issues tonight be trying to get home 667 00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,900 and get on there too. This and we had some issues but 668 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,500 God is good and here we are but yeah you can find us live at 669 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:16,000 6:30 Eastern Time on Facebook at prodigal son show and then you 670 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,700 can catch us anywhere that you listen your favorite podcast 671 00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:21,700 Podcast, Addict, anchor Spotify, Apple music. 672 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,300 I know there's others. Those are the big ones. 673 00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:26,100 I can think of off the top of my head, but it prodigal sons 674 00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:29,400 podcast. Our logo is black background 675 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,300 with the teal woven cross. And it says, Real Men, Real 676 00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:34,800 Faith, real talk. That's our logo again. 677 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,500 Thanks for I'm me on and yeah, definitely get you over on our 678 00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:40,200 show man because you bring a different element. 679 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,700 Some of the stuff you talked about it on her show with the 680 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:45,900 the Supernatural and stuff. More relates to me than so much 681 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,500 rest of my podcast crew. But I'd love to get you on there 682 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,800 and have that conversation and let them kind of chimed in to 683 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,300 see where they're at. Because I don't think we really 684 00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:56,200 had that kind of conversation. I think kind of we skirt that 685 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,800 because I don't think that's one of their big issue but I've had 686 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,600 a lot of experiences so I definitely have to get back 687 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,400 together with you talk about that sometime. 688 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,100 Thank you for the kind words and it was an honor to have you. 689 00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:07,700 Roma show with me. And yeah, anytime you want me to 690 00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,400 come rock the boat and possibly sink it over there with the 691 00:37:10,408 --> 00:37:12,100 prodigal sons. Just let me know. 692 00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,800 We got crazy bleep in the corner, he'll calm the storm. 693 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,400 Well, that's it. That's the show everybody. 694 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,800 If you found this edifying, you heard something through Pastor 695 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,000 Sean's, testimony his journey. What he's going through and 696 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,200 dealing with, and it resonated with you, share it with a 697 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,200 friend, family members. Share this with you or text 698 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,500 coming soon from Southeastern Pennsylvania. 699 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,700 God Bless America. Goodbye. 700 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:30,600 Hey, how are you? This is Pastor Sean Conway from 701 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:28,900 the cross. Hey, how are you? 702 00:38:28,908 --> 00:38:31,100 This is Pastor Sean Conway from the cross.