1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,300 She says the word. Hello, beautiful people. 2 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,600 This is Princess and you are listening to my favorite show, 3 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:22,800 relying on Mustard Seed. Butkus, thank you. 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,400 And please leave a five star review, see you on the next one. 5 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,500 Welcome back to the show. Happy that you're here with me 6 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:35,800 again. This is a micro episode. 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,900 We have Gary Wayne here for edification purposes. 8 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:44,700 I believe Christ defeated so much more than we give him 9 00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:47,900 credit for, who are the principalities, the powers the 10 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:50,900 rollers dominions. This is all stuff. 11 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:55,300 I want you guys to think about he willingly gave himself over 12 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:58,200 and by doing so he crushed them all. 13 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:02,100 This is the good news. I asked you Guys, share this 14 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:04,500 show with a friend, a family member, A co-worker shared with 15 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:07,600 your pastor. We have big things on the 16 00:01:07,607 --> 00:01:10,700 horizon. Please keep me in prayer and 17 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:15,100 consider donating. I am ready for this episode. 18 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:27,700 Are you guys ready? - this is our micro series 19 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:29,000 episode. We're going to do a little bit 20 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,800 of edification with me for this series, Gary wing, and how you 21 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,600 doing Gary? I am doing just fine. 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,700 And so, happy to be back on your show and very much looking 23 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:40,300 forward to our conversation today. 24 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:42,300 Yeah. This is your third appearance 25 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:46,700 here, so, almost a regular almost. 26 00:01:46,700 --> 00:01:49,000 Yeah. There's so much going on in the 27 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,200 world today. There's not a lot of healthy 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,900 information for just the average, Joe, the Layman next 29 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:58,100 door, who listens to podcasts and has a lot of questions. 30 00:01:58,100 --> 00:02:01,100 And I really wanted to spend this like ten minute window 31 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:06,400 here, talking about the power of the Resurrection chair. 32 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:10,100 How do you view the victory of the Cross? 33 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,800 Just give us some background on this. 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,800 Yeah, I would say it declared victory at that time of the 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,600 Resurrection. And it was something that the 36 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Fallen Angels. Even though they are intimate 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,300 with God and have an extraordinary amount of 38 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:29,700 information or information and knowledge, they did not 39 00:02:29,700 --> 00:02:34,300 anticipate, the resurrection which is probably one of the 40 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:37,200 most important things that we need to understand as this war 41 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,400 is waged between the visible ones and the invisible ones. 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,400 And so in the book of Corinthians 2:8 of the Angels, 43 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,500 did not know Oh, about the resurrection. 44 00:02:48,500 --> 00:02:52,800 Otherwise I would not have had Jesus crucified and we know 45 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,500 rulers are angels because when you take that back to the Greek 46 00:02:56,500 --> 00:02:59,800 word, you get into the different kinds of orders of the, of the 47 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,100 Angels. So number one, that's very, very 48 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:04,800 important. Then the second thing at the 49 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,500 time of the Resurrection is that again a verse that churches 50 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:14,300 don't tend to like to reference or reference in a way that is in 51 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:17,300 context with the narrative that it's in in First Peter 3. 52 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:23,200 Is is that when Jesus was still in the grave, he went and talked 53 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,800 to those Spirits in prison, in the abyss prison in the pit 54 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,600 prison. And I think he was there to tell 55 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,000 him that when he resurrects on the Sunday, which they had not 56 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,300 anticipated. And they just learned about. 57 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:44,200 I think when he went to tell him that your Rebellion is over and 58 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,200 that the atom ights as God had created them. 59 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:51,000 As he knew all along, he would have to, as the alpha omega, is 60 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,600 the resolution to the Angelic rebellion. 61 00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:59,300 And so just as Matthew 25 talks about, the Lake of Fire being 62 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:02,100 reserved for the devil and his angels. 63 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,100 They knew at that point on, they were not going to escape the 64 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:11,500 consequences and that humans would be raised up to be like 65 00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:14,800 angels in the resurrection process even though we have 66 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:22,200 humans fathers and a dog. acted as joint heirs with Jesus to go 67 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:30,100 into eternity as a brother of Jesus and to ultimately, Well, 68 00:04:30,100 --> 00:04:34,300 we will have the opportunity to judge those angels for the 69 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:38,100 crimes against humanity and the crimes against creation. 70 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:46,700 And that I think the whole process of Jesus coming about is 71 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,800 not really. I think talked about in the 72 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Supernatural sort of sense in terms of why it's important, he 73 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,500 did it the way he did it and came to atone and over You came 74 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:03,400 because he was subject to all of the corruption of the world. 75 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,100 Just as the angels are the Angels. 76 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:10,600 We Know can take a physical form simply because we have them in 77 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,500 several different forms throughout the Bible and 78 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:15,400 particularly like humans in the Sodom and Gomorrah narrative. 79 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,100 And just before that where you know, the word I think actually 80 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:24,900 manifest says, an angel of the Lord like being and with two 81 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:28,300 other angels, that will ultimately go on to Sodom and 82 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:33,200 they can both Drink and interact and touch and do everything we 83 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,000 can and were thought to be humans when they first were 84 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,600 seen, that's how they can manufacture themselves. 85 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:45,100 And that Jesus aside, I mean, the word aside, this Holy Spirit 86 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:49,100 aside God aside all other beings in the Angelic realm. 87 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,100 When they are going to come into the physical world and they want 88 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:54,200 to interact, they're going to need to be in that body form. 89 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,300 So they need a soul body as a white cat Aryan, which is means 90 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:02,800 of polling place for the spirit and that comes from Jude 16 with 91 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,800 a habitation that the Angels, at the time of Noah again, laughs, 92 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,700 they left their Dwelling Place there. 93 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:14,700 I Qatari and in heaven and it's also reiterated in second 94 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:16,700 Corinthians five to as the house in heaven. 95 00:06:16,700 --> 00:06:20,300 As that dwelling place and that they need also a Dwelling Place 96 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:23,200 which is the word oil or Kateri and for house in heaven in 97 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,500 second Corinthians as well. The only two times that it's 98 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:28,300 used and it means that dwelling place for the spirit, so they 99 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:31,000 need a soul on a body. Because of the Earth where the 100 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,100 spirit is going to meld with that body and soul so that they 101 00:06:34,100 --> 00:06:38,300 can interact and that also gives them the ability to pass on 102 00:06:38,300 --> 00:06:41,900 their DNA because you're going to have DNA that that comes with 103 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:44,500 that which is sort of goes to the heart of how Giants were 104 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:47,800 created in Genesis 6. So it's important to understand 105 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,500 about that is is that the demon spirits that Jesus is 106 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:54,000 encountering? They're looking for a place to 107 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,300 rest and they're like in the wilderness thirsting for a place 108 00:06:57,300 --> 00:06:59,400 to rest because to have a place of rest. 109 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,000 Guests and to interact in the world, they have to possess 110 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,200 humans or animals as we find out with Legion. 111 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,700 They have the capability of doing to interact in the world. 112 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:16,100 So that's the dwelling place. But they it's a takeover of the 113 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:19,000 dwelling place. So you've got not a symbiotic 114 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,700 relationship. There, you've got this war going 115 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:27,400 on between the host and the Demonic spirit, so Jesus can 116 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:32,500 come as the angel of the Lord. But that's not going to to fully 117 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,900 qualify for what he needs to do. So what he's going to have done 118 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:39,100 with him and obviously is committed right from the 119 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:42,200 beginning to do this. As part of the alpha omega plan 120 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,500 is that he will have, he will God will send the Holy Spirit. 121 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:51,900 First that is going to make the void cattarrian within Mary, 122 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:58,200 first the soul and the body and then Jesus Will Enter into that 123 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:03,800 body to become fully half human and fully Heavenly spirit so 124 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:09,000 that he can be the correct appropriate sacrifice and the 125 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,500 atonement for all the sins except for the sins against the 126 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:17,800 Holy Spirit. And also, so that he's not 127 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,100 created in a way, that's like the rebellious Angels were doing 128 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:25,300 with, with human females to create the Giants. 129 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,400 And so this is sort of perfection in what he does. 130 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:33,299 And that it makes you wonder that, you know, just like in 131 00:08:33,299 --> 00:08:36,700 sort of like the Matrix series. If you die in The Matrix, you 132 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:38,500 die period. You almost have that sort of 133 00:08:38,508 --> 00:08:42,700 concept as to why the Fallen Angels didn't anticipate the 134 00:08:42,700 --> 00:08:44,400 resurrection. So what when they actually 135 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:48,700 Actually crucified Jesus. They thought maybe he would end 136 00:08:48,700 --> 00:08:51,300 in the physical world. What they don't know is he is 137 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:55,100 greater than simple world because he's the one who created 138 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:59,400 it through God's command. And which is why he needed to 139 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,400 come in the way that he did and why were given the details of 140 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,900 that in terms of how the word became flesh, its Perfection, 141 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:14,400 and very well said, I wish we heard that kind of approach. 142 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:16,800 The pulpit. You know, I wish that the church 143 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:22,100 is would just be Diversified and less denominational preferences 144 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:26,200 and more of what people are hungry for and that's the Bible, 145 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,400 the word. I think that can neglect in the 146 00:09:28,408 --> 00:09:33,300 Supernatural to me and then to say you're a Christian is pretty 147 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:36,000 foolish because if you strip the supernatural stuff out of the 148 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Bible you literally have a genealogy and you know a bunch 149 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,800 of stories about people fighting and bickering over you know, 150 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:47,000 land and when one takes the The supernatural, the preternatural 151 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 nature. I mean, it's almost Supernatural 152 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,500 book, ever written, but when you take that out, you take 153 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,500 everything that is relevant and provides context for what 154 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:01,500 happened in prehistory. And why that context is so 155 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:04,400 important to understand. For, when we go into the end 156 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,400 time and throughout prophecy as it's provided through the Bible 157 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,100 because nothing is new Under the Sun. 158 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,700 If we don't understand that concept then, Then we're ready 159 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:19,000 and being served up to be deceived just as even. 160 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,200 The elect will be deceived in the end time as Jesus for warns 161 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,600 us about. So I would like to see churches 162 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Teach as you say, the whole Bible and to teach prehistory 163 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,600 and prophecy. And so few of them do and teach 164 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,300 it in context with everything that's written in the Bible. 165 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,900 And that's why what we're doing is so important, in my opinion, 166 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:44,900 Gary being Just being on the front lines like I am, just the 167 00:10:44,900 --> 00:10:47,600 guy next door. And I have the reputation for 168 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,500 just asking questions and just being persistent. 169 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,700 I want to hold this conversation. 170 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:54,600 I want to hear both ends of the spectrum. 171 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,700 I don't even want to try to keep the people out that I would 172 00:10:57,700 --> 00:11:00,100 disagree with, not that I disagree with a lot of the 173 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:02,300 people. I interview, but there's certain 174 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:05,700 things on the show, I've heard that I'd doesn't settle the best 175 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:07,500 with me. And, and the more I thought 176 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:12,500 about it, I said, The power of the Resurrection is, why any of 177 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:15,200 us are even here in this Christian ballpark. 178 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,000 This field that we're trying to operate on in the first place, 179 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,900 the victory of the Cross. What Christ did the mission is 180 00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:25,200 accomplished? And I guess my last little note 181 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:30,500 on this short micro episode here would be the enemy is defeated 182 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,200 it. He's been conquered. 183 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,600 It's like we won the game and there's going to be an exit off 184 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,000 the field, but he still, he still here. 185 00:11:39,100 --> 00:11:41,100 Here. Well again, if we taught if the, 186 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,700 if the church leaders would teach the whole Bible, they 187 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:47,900 would talk about in contacts that the book of life was 188 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:52,600 written from before creation. So, yeah, Jesus has had his 189 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,300 resurrection but for the Fulfillment of the numbers of 190 00:11:56,300 --> 00:11:59,700 the Gentiles and the Fulfillment of the names written in the Book 191 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:04,000 of Life to have the opportunity to keep it there versus being 192 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,500 rubbed out, is the time that's been provided by God to Fill 193 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:12,200 that. And so, the end time will happen 194 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,900 at the ordained time. Because everything has a 195 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:19,300 timetable to fulfill everything that was thought about from the 196 00:12:19,300 --> 00:12:23,600 beginning, the power of the Cross and what Christ 197 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:28,400 accomplished on it, the good news is far superior. 198 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,200 To the feeble works of darkness cling to the cross. 199 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,200 And remember the cross is foolishness to those who are 200 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,300 perishing, but that's not us, Gary. 201 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,600 Thanks for being here on this mini short series, man. 202 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,500 Thank you, share this little mini episode. 203 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:48,600 I know that you guys like them, we've gotten great feedback this 204 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,400 far. And this is only the fourth mini 205 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,900 episode of many and stay tuned for these longer episodes that 206 00:12:56,900 --> 00:12:59,100 you guys have been used to over these last few years. 207 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,800 Because they're not going anywhere. 208 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,900 Either coming to you from Southeastern Pennsylvania. 209 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,200 God Bless America. Goodbye.