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episode. Derek even talks about a
potential, Dogman, experience that he might have had at his
house in the Ozarks. This is a wild roller coaster
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Let's jump right into the show, guys.
So Derek, it's a pleasure to have you here on the millennial
mustard see podcast. Thank you so much for being
here. That's an honor.
I always appreciate the opportunity to talk about this
stuff. That's fascinating.
This is going to be quite the ride for me and the audience
Derek. This was a news line from
yesterday. I'm pretty sure you had to have
heard about this but there's a strange mysterious metal
monolith, that was discovered in remote.
All thought, tell him that. Did you get a chance to look
into that? Yet, talked a little bit with
the Steve, quale about that yesterday.
In fact, that'll be an interview that will allow on Sky watch TV
tomorrow. Yeah, I honestly, I don't know
what to make of it. I mean, this was dropped into a
Slot Canyon in a rural, it remote part of the Utah desert
and not really sure what to make of it.
I know that there are some out there say, well must be aliens
now. I don't think so but why would
somebody do that? Steve's got a thought that maybe
this is something that some agency within the government is
using to monitor. After behavior of some sort from
entities of some kind. So that's a possibility is
interesting. It might, it might be somebody's
idea of a tribute to, I don't know, Stanley Kubrick or Arthur
c-- Clark. I don't know, but the monolith
from 2001 A Space Odyssey, was, was black and the kind of a
matte finish. This is a, this is made of
stainless steel which, you know, when I left the metals business,
back in 20 in 2015. Yeah, you that's, that's a lot
of money to drop into something like that.
I mean, stainless Eel isn't cheap, especially if you're
going to finish it out. And, you know, machine at the
way they did, that's a big piece of stainless steel that just
drop into the desert where nobody's going to see it, except
a bunch of sheep wandering around loose and that's how the
Utah, the state of Utah found it.
There were some folks there with their, I don't know, Department
of Wildlife, I guess counting sheep, and they saw this thing
reflecting sunlight back at them so they landed the copter and
got a shot of it, the part of Utah that they're in looks like
Jordan, it looks like ancient Moab or eat it.
Looks like engine eat them actually looks similar to Wadi
Rum which is that red desert, south east of the Dead Sea,
honestly, don't know what to make of it.
I don't think it's extraterrestrial.
I don't think we have any serious evidence of
extraterrestrial visitation, but we certainly have plenty of
evidence of inhuman. Visitation over the centuries.
I don't think this is it, but I honestly I can only speculate
You think about, you know, Sasquatch or dog, man.
People having all these different sightings with
modern-day Cryptids, another Book of Enoch talks about the
mixing of animals with, you know, other animals and and
streams things like that. The Greeks I was reading,
there's a creature called the sign of safley, which I think it
means the head of a dog on a man.
And some of these reports I was reading about even ancient
explorers all the way up to 400 years ago would talk about going
to Africa and India and Countering these creatures that
had the lower body of a man, but the head of a dog, some of them
were reported to be very hostile.
Cannibalistic things of that sort and doesn't get too much
attention. I do listen to some other
podcasts and follow things that pertain to Sasquatch and Dogman
I think there's something interesting going on there.
There's a lot of people reporting sightings on these
creatures. What is your take on that?
It's certainly possible. I don't discount it, I mean 25
years ago I would have thought now this is just us all bogus.
But I don't discount it anymore, simply because you have to admit
the possibility of the supernatural if you are a
Christian. So I do.
What are they? I don't know.
I've got good friends who are otherwise, rational, productive
human beings, who believe that they're real, and claimed to
have met people who tell credible stories of encountering
these things. We've had a weird Experience
here. At we've not we've not heard
this thing recently. But there have been a number of
times here at our home in the Ozarks, where we will hear what
appear to be human footsteps on the roof of our of our home.
It's clearly a biped because it's not, it's not a quadrupedal
footstep, and you can tell by the weight on the decking of the
roof. That it's something that you
know is fairly substantial. It's not a Bird.
In other words, we're not close enough to the trees that it
would be a cat. And again, the foot step is
bipedal Sharon and heard this several times and I thought,
okay, well maybe but, you know, maybe you were dreaming and you
heard something until one night. I heard it, too.
I heard a thump on the roof like something had landed on it.
And then I heard footsteps as though, something was running
from just above our bedroom, towards our garage, and then a
guest in our home, heard the same thing.
We also had an incident one morning where we were heading a
light rain outside and, you know, Springtime is kind of a
missed a drizzle and we, suddenly heard a Thump, Thump,
Thump, on the roof, what the heck was that?
So, I went to look and notice that the, the umbrella that we
have, you know, in the over the patio table to patio umbrella
was gone. Like okay.
What now, what's that about normally?
We put it down when it gets windy because the wind can kick
up a bit and it will carry that thing, even with the 25-pound
iron stand at its base, it was gone.
And so I looked around and found it was in the front yard.
Now, there was very little wind out there.
It was not because the little floral arrangements, you know,
the fake flowers in these little baskets that Sharon had put out
on patio table, for decoration, they hadn't been Disturbed.
Yeah. If it had been enough.
In to carry that umbrella and lift it over the front of the
house. Those would have been down in
the yard as well. So what lifted that out in
through and that happened twice actually with that with that
patio umbrella. It lifted her in or out of the
25 pound iron stand at the base and flung it to the other side
of the house. Don't know what it was, but it
wasn't the wind. So do I think something like a
dog, man, or something might have done it?
I have no idea, but I'm not going to Discount the
possibility that they exist. A lot of people are having
experiences. As I believe we grow towards the
end of this age. Something happened to me.
One of my car's. The starter had failed.
Over at my mother's house and I'm land there in the driveway,
replacing the starter, she's sitting out there talking with
me. Well, in broad daylight, I see
an orb float, it must have been about 50 feet off the ground
Eric and the thing gracefully floated.
And I'm not talking about dandelions or beat all bauble,
or something like this was an orb.
It didn't quite pulsate, but it had like an intelligent movement
to it. And this was very strange.
For me, I'm laying under the car, it's about 10:30 in the
morning. And I see Mom, look at that.
Do you see that? So she stands up to look but the
sun was in her eyes, but because I was laying under the car, so I
was able to Pure out, you know, obviously, I'm explaining to my
mom, what I seen, I didn't feel any fear or anxiety about that
just was very curious. I'm like, wow.
So I didn't really want to tell many people.
Just that was an interesting experience for me.
Well, Derek, it was only about two months later and my stepdad
races motorcycles. They have a couple sheds in a
garage about 50 yards off the Back of the house and they have
security cameras set up there because there is a public
walking trail. That goes along the Schuylkill
River, that's not too far at all from where these sheds and
garages are. Well, my mom and stepdad her
sitting in the house and they both get an alert on their
phone. That the camera has pick
something up. They both at the same time,
watch an orb. This thing is just floating
right in the driveway and Glides by and kinda picks up and just
scoot on through the whole video frame.
I mean, it's like 10 seconds. Hmm.
And I know my stepdad, then, you know, we kind of chatted with
him and me and my mom were like, well I seen an orb in broad
daylight just a few months. Prior, I didn't make a big deal
about it, kind of just let it go, you know.
I didn't want people to think I was too weird but now here we
have an orb own video and I think it's interesting, a friend
of mine. Tony Merkel, who has the
confessionals podcast? I was chatting with him recently
and he was telling me about a supernatural experience.
He had with somebody, he believes was trying to put a
curse on. Hex on him.
They tried to coax him to come over and they said, oh we want
to hear about the Bible and Tony who's a Christian but he
interviews people who have strange Supernatural encounters.
He's like, okay, so he finally makes plans to come over to this
guy's house and you know the guy ends up being a whack-job.
It tell them whose ghost in the house and all the strange stuff
Tony's kind of like I got to get out of here man.
You know, I thought you wanted to hear the gospel.
This isn't what you made it seem today.
It's in the same neighborhood that these orbs.
I don't know if there's A connectivity there, but I think
it's interesting. I heard even LOL say, hey, there
was a coven of witches in Salem, New Hampshire when he was out
there at the American Indian Stonehenge.
You know that you see covenants of witches gathering around
these ancient megalithic structure.
There's got to be a connection. Yeah.
In today's day and age, a lot of these things, just go under the
radar for the masses, people don't really understand what the
Bible is saying. And that there's an enemy that
is warring against our soul. Well, yeah.
And sadly, the church is not prepared for it because most in
the church don't recognize it. No, you're right.
One of the things that really startled, me was a couple of
months ago, when Abraham Hamilton, the third who does a
daily radio program for American Family.
Radio really went into some detail and played video from or
play the audio clips from a video interview.
That was recorded back in June between the co-founder of the
black lives matter and the head of the Los Angeles chapter
talking about how their work is really spiritual.
Oil more than racial. It's really a spiritual work and
describing what they do this ritual, there's no other word
for it that they perform and they get together where they say
the name, say their name and they repeat these names and call
them out. Well, you know, I hadn't paid
much attention to it, I thought. Well, this is just like, when at
9/11 we repeat, recite the names of the victims to, you know,
honor the dead, and just so that we don't forget who they are.
Well, they said, no, no, it's more than that.
When they're saying the name they are, they believe they are
literally summoning, the spirits of the dead so that the spirits
of the Dead can work through them to accomplish the work that
they're trying to do more than that.
They pour out a libation, a drink offering for them when
they do this. Now, that really rang a bell for
me because that was a key element of the ancient amirite,
ritual called Kiss, Boom, where they summoned the spirits of
their Our ancestors, which had to be done every month on the
30th of the month. Which in a lunar calendar is the
night when there's no moon. I'm even 4,000 years ago, they
understood the night with no moon is a night with the veil is
the thinnest between the worlds. This was the responsibility of
the eldest son of the family, the heir of the Family Estate.
He had to take over this ritual and summon the family wealth of
the spirits of the ancestors, but they were considered the
family gods. Did the teraphim that Jacobs
father-in-law? Had the family gods?
That his wife, Rachel stole. That's what these were for this
monthly ritual. Were you had to summon the
ancestors and then you would feed them Scholars, have broken
down the Ritual from texts that have been dug out of the sand
and ancient Syria from ancient Syria from ancient Iraq.
The amorites brought this into Mesopotamia.
When they, emigrated there, around the 23rd 24th century BC,
they would take bread and literally smear.
Bread on the faces of these little statues, representing
their dead, ancestors to feed them, and then they would pour
out, a drink offering a libation.
The son, who was responsible for, this was literally called
the poorer of water or the son of the cup.
And this was such an important thing, that people who didn't
have children would make would would contract to people who
would perform this ritual after their death.
Because it was believed that if you died and you didn't have
your descendants. If your descendants didn't
perform. This ritual you were condemned
to Star for all eternity. You would live on dust and Clay.
If your descendants did not perform this ritual.
So here you've got in the 21st century on the streets of
America. Are these people who are
following the leaders of what they believe is a racial Justice
movement and believe that they're just performing a
ritual. To remember those who have
fallen in violent encounters with the police. when instead,
what the organizers of this organ of this group are doing in
their minds is literally summoning, these Spirits pouring
out a drink offering to them and then concluding the ritual by
saying a Shay Ashay comes from the religion of the Yoruba
people of Nigeria and is part of their religion.
I forget the name of it off the top of my head, but it is the
basically, it's the Wellspring from which we get the religions
in the new world Voodoo and Now, there's another, that is similar
to it. That I'm forgetting it.
The Chicago White Sox manager back in 05 when they won the
World Series. Ozzie, Guillen was a
practitioner of it. But anyway, this is a religion
that is literally dealing with the spirits of well demonic
spirits, just like the ancient amorites who believed that they
were venerating the dead just like the ancient Greeks and
Romans, when they venerated, the heroes were literally venerating
the spirits of the Nephilim, the origin of demons as we showed in
veneration believed by the early church for the first four
hundred years after the resurrection.
It was the default understanding.
It was the, the consensus of the early church that demons
originated from the spirits of the Nephilim.
This is described in the book of First Enoch.
Again, it was Augustine who kind of got us off that track and got
us to a No-No. Was the the righteous sons of
Seth? Who married the wicked Daughters
of Cain? That's what Genesis 6 was all
about. It's like, no, no, that that was
not the understanding of the early church.
That would not believe you, right?
That's the Seth. I'd view.
That was not the understanding of the early church.
When you read, what the early church, fathers wrote about the
origin of demons, the consensus View for the first four.
Centuries after the resurrection, Ocean was that
those were the spirits that preceded?
The hybrid Spirits had proceeded from the, the children of the
sons of God have been a hot Elohim or the Watchers and the
daughters of men. And we have gotten away from
that for the last sixteen, hundred years, thank you,
Augustine, brilliant, Theologian, but wrong on that
point. But a key point on which to be
wrong because now we see things like the Day of the Dead
celebration in Mexico. As nothing more than a cute
cultural thing that Mexicans do to just honor the spirits of
their ancestors. No, I'm sorry, but it's messing
with demons and it's a, it's a practice that goes back more
than Thousand years to ancient Mesopotamia and the black lives
matter co-founder, the head of the Los Angeles chapter openly
admit that that's what they're doing.
They are performing this ritual on the streets of America today
when they say the name in fact there's a video out there that
people can find of dr. Molina Abdullah, who's the LA
chapter ahead, performing this ritual and pouring out the drink
offering inside a Methodist Church in Hollywood and the
people there in the church like it.
Wait a minute, wait a minute. Making offerings to Demons here.
Nobody's like just no big deal. No big deal because we don't
understand what we're dealing with in modern-day America.
The interesting thing to me is that I'm not an expert on the
history of the Yoruba people, but as I understand it, they
emigrated west from the area of Sudan around the 8th, or 9th
century ad because they were pushed out by Arab Muslims who
were expanding their territory from Arabia.
And so, they may well have been in that Circle of cultural
contact with the ancient amorites.
Going back, you know, maybe a thousand years earlier and and
picked up on the practice then and then just brought it to West
Africa when they emigrated. So, but whether it was
physically through physical contact that way, or just
through contact from the spirit realm, the principalities and
Powers, who intercede to intervene in human Affairs.
That ritual is now taking place in 21st century America on our
city streets. Now, does that mean that these
demons are being given more power because they're people
doing the rituals know. They've only got As much power
as God is going to allow them to have.
What it does say though is that there are more people here in
America today who are giving those Spirits permission to
enter into them and work through them.
And that's resulted in what we've seen is like the the most
costly period of violent protests in American history.
The protest connected to antifa and black lives matter in 2020.
Yeah. This year has been like no other
time in my lifetime. You know we wait patiently
because we know the Lord is going to crack the sky, like a
supernova. He's going to pull back the
veil. It's clear to see that.
This spiritual darkness is in overtime right now.
They're an Overdrive. I've just doing everything they
can. I want to ask you about the
Divine Council. Now I know you said you spoke
with my Kaiser before I'm aware of some of his work on the
listen to a little bit of the naked Bible podcast from time to
time, he moves very quickly and covers, a lot of deep ground
share with me in the audience. About the Divine Council.
The Divine council is a concept. It was well known in the ancient
world. In fact that term is more or
less used in in Psalm 82. And I'm going to try to bring it
up here so I'm not calling Hang it up from memory, it made a lot
of sense and I game I was basically just digging into the
internet back in 2004 2005, looking looking for anything.
I could find that helped make more sense of the Nephilim.
I mean they had to be in the Bible for some reason.
If the Bible is the word of God and you got this weird section
that describes these Mighty Men Who were of old and just four
verses and then you get another brief reference in Numbers
Chapter You're 13. The point of the Divine Council
concept is that the spirit realm is a lot more active and a lot
more. A lot richer than we've been
taught in our Church's. Most American Christians don't
believe that Satan is a literal and today they think he's a
concept or a force or a symbol of the evil that exists in human
hearts. The Holy Spirit, just a symbol
of God's love now to real entity demons.
Yeah, you know, we haven't dealt with them since the first
century. Three.
They kind of left us alone after the apostolic age, that's kind
of the view that most American Christians have.
But that's not the view of the early church and I think we do
them a disservice. It's really condescending of us
in the 21st century to say well yeah, these apostles who were
learning at the feet of Jesus, they really didn't quite
understand the theology. The way we do today in the 21st
century, how arrogant is that? That that the apostles who were
writing about things like principalities and powers and
Thrones and dominions referring to literally evil intelligences
who want to harm us and saying, well, yeah, but they didn't
really know. They were superstitious, they
were primitive. They didn't have Science and
Technology. We've been blinded by science.
We think that we can solve everything with science and many
of us in the Christian church are guilty of that.
And you know, I'm the same way. I mean you're raised up in
America today with the idea that science has the answer to
everything that the only means of finding the truth.
The only method of finding the actual capital-t truth is
through science, but science, as it's taught to us begins with
the presumption that if you can't see it measure it somehow
with our human. Senses.
Even with the use of instruments that we can then, translate into
signals, that we can perceive sight, sound, whatever with our
human senses, it doesn't exist. But we know that's observably
untrue. I mean, how do you quantify a
thought, or measure an emotion? We know they exist but you can't
see them or measure them. And yet we're willing to say
that God does not exist because we cannot perceive him with our
human senses or the instruments that we can create with which we
you know, point at the stars or whatever it is a fundamentally
flawed worldview and for Christians, it should be
absolutely ridiculous. Our default setting should be a
Supernatural worldview. We claim to believe in a God.
Who spoke the universe into existence.
And literally raised himself from the dead.
And yet, we're not going to believe that anything else
exists in the spirit realm, even though his word tells us that
they do the term, the Divine council is found in Psalm 82.
And this is something that my Kaiser will point to and say,
when he was a young, man, this is what really set him on his
course of research because it's absolutely mind-blowing.
When you consider the implications here, this is
essentially a courtroom scene in The, Heavenly realm, Psalm 82,
beginning at verse 1, God has taken his place in the divine.
In Council in the midst of the Gods, he holds judgment.
Now, in Hebrew, that's Elohim has taken his place in the
Divine Council in the midst of Elohim.
He holds judgment the word Elohim like deer or sheep is
singular or plural depending on context and clearly.
One cannot take one's place in the midst of oneself.
So Elohim is taking the place in the midst of the Elohim midst of
the Gods. Well, who are these gods?
The Jews of the ancient world, understood the disciples and
apostles understood. They were the what we would call
angels in English who made up his Heavenly Court.
We even see an example of this in First Kings 22 which is the
story of God, talking to his counsel, his court and asking,
how are we going to deceive Ahab into going into battle against
the syrians? So that he may fall in battle,
and one spirit, says, one thing. And another says, another and
finally won Speaks up and says, I'll be a lying spirit in the
mouth of all of ahab's, profits and will deceive him into.
And and God says, you will you do?
So and you will succeed go forth and, you know, go ahead and do
it now. Did God need.
Any advice? No, of course not.
Why did God? Why does God have a council?
If he doesn't need it, he created them.
The Angelic realm, the inhabitants of the Angelic realm
for his own pleasure, the same way he created you, and me, he
doesn't need us either. And yet, here we are having this
conversation, and when you continue on through Psalm 82,
you see God decreeing, the death of the Gods, which again is a
mind-blowing concept. This is not polytheism but is an
understanding that the ancient Jews had it's in his
understanding that the first century church had the early
church fathers had this same understanding, it wasn't until
about the time of Augustine in the early 5th Century that the
church began to move away from this idea that there were other
small G gods in the spirit realm.
And, you know, that is kind of led to where we are today.
Now what I am expressing With this, this view this Divine
council, worldview is not the default setting for most
seminaries today, most of our pastors come out believing that
there is one God and yes, one capital G, God is correct but we
English speakers attach a certain meaning to that
three-letter word, g0d, that was not the way it was understood
2000 years ago. 3,000 years ago, the authors of the book writing
under the influence of the Holy Spirit had a different
understanding Standing of the concept of small G OD.
Then we do and all that Mike is encouraging us to do all the
Sharon and I are hoping to encourage people to do and teach
people to do is try to see the world through the eyes of the
man, who wrote the words of the Bible, under the influence of
the holy spirit. Because, you know, they might
know a thing or two Derek. Even when we look into, like,
you know, the ancient Greek culture all the way from Africa
to Northern Europe, the Middle East Asia, the American Indians,
they all have carvings etched right into the Rock depicting
battles. And encounters with chimeras and
we see it written all over history.
It's amazing. So what is the connection
between these ancient mythological creatures with the
Bible? I mean, how would you, you know,
Express what the Greeks were we're dealing with and writing
about, and how does it all kind of intertwined together with the
word of God? Well, that was really the, the
reason I wrote the book last Clash of the Titans again,
getting back to the idea of the Nephilim and their the term by
which they were referred to later.
Ref. I aim in the course of
researching my first book, The the great Inception.
I started just searching through academic papers looking for
references to the ref, I eme just to see if there were other
cultures around the ancient Hebrews.
Who knew what those things were, the ref IE more mentioned a
little bit in Deuteronomy and in Joshua, I think there's a
reference in, there's a reference in Genesis as well.
The, the war of the nine Kings, the five of come from the East
to do battle. The the Four Kings of Sodom
Gomorrah and their allies and they have to defeat ref.
I am tribes in the transjordan, the lands later called Ammon and
Moab, and Edom on the way down to the region, around the Dead
Sea. So the ref I am were known to
the Hebrews but did Moses just make them up to try to demonize
so to speak the people that the Israelites were going to push
out of the land of Canaan. Well, it turns out.
No, the ref. I am were known and not only
known. To the Canaanites but they were
venerated worshipped by the Canaanites and there's evidence
going back to the time of Abraham that in Northern Syria,
The amorites Who, by the way, you that's almost
interchangeable with Canaanite. The Canaanites were just
amorites who lived in the western part of ancient
Mesopotamia. They understood the role of the
ref. I eme, who by the time of Moses
and the Israelites only OG there, the conquest of Canaan
only OG was the last of the remnant of the ref is But they
were venerated by the neighboring Canaanites as these
Mighty Kings, who lived in ancient times.
Oh, okay. So those Mighty Men Who were of
old the Nephilim after death, in the flood of Noah, their Spirits
were considered these to have power in the afterlife.
They weren't on the level of the great Gods like Baal and L and
asherah but they still had power to influence.
The the land of the living and just within the last 40 years,
there have been several texts from the ancient amirite,
Kingdom of you Garrett, which is on the Syrian Coast
Mediterranean that summon the ref, I aim to a ritual meal at
the the sanctuary of L or the threshing floor of L.
And by the way, when I'm saying, l in this context of this is not
El elyon or El Shaddai, meaning Yahweh the god of the Bible, but
L the Creator, God of the cane, It's a different entity
altogether. This threshing floor or
sanctuary of L or Tabernacle of L is according to Scholars, most
likely the summit of Mount Hermon.
Which, if you're familiar with the Genesis 6 account, and the
parallel account in first Enoch, which expands on it.
That's where the Watchers, the sons of God, who saw that the
daughters of man were Fair, that's where they descended and
made their Mutual pact to corrupt Humanity by taking wives
mingling their seed with Tarzan, teaching us things, we weren't
supposed to know. So these rephaim are summoned to
this ritual meal, where it is believed that the name of L and
that's a whole other discussion. Just the the name theology.
The name is not just the reputation of the God, there's a
power to it. It's like another aspect of his,
of his personhood, the name of Elwood revivify or Resurrect The
Ref. I eme, and these texts literally
say that when they're summoned, they met After chariots, they
travel first one day and then another and then arrive at dawn
of the third day. So they mean that that to me was
mind-blowing but what was even more astonishing was finding a
paper from 1999 by the Estonian scholar.
Am are on news? Am a are a NN U s--.
He's done some remarkable and my Kaiser will, you know, he's the
one who pointed me in his Direction.
A Marat news has done some incredible research in this
area. He showed that the origin Of the
Greek term used to describe the men who lived during the golden
age, when Kronos ruled in heaven.
Okay. Now Kronos was the king of the
titans. The Titans were the old gods of
the Greeks who were overthrown by Zeus and the Olympians and
then cast down to Tartarus where they are banished.
And, you know, people might remember the movies Clash of the
Titans and Wrath of the Titans and Percy Jackson and the
Olympians and how Kronos is the bad guy?
You don't want let him out of Tartarus, because he's really
mean, and would be dangerous to set him free.
Well, yeah, that's that's true. True enough.
This term that applied to these men who lived in this pre-flood
era, when Chronos ruled in heaven Murat base anthropoid.
Okay, anthropoid is a reference to humans As you know,
anthropological is the comes from that word, but marah pays
is the term that Homer and hesiod?
The two Greek poets wrote. A lot of what we know about
Greek mythology. Actually the religion that word
merapi actually derives from the same Semitic root from which we
get ref. I am And he established that.
Wow. So the Greek understanding of
their Heroes, the demigods of the golden age.
The pre-flood age, when Kronos ruled in heaven derives from
ref, I aim like, oh, okay, that's interesting.
And then he takes it. A step further and shows that
the origin of the name, Titan in Greek, for which there really is
not been a satisfactory explanation. derives in all
probability from the name of an ancient Amorite tribe called the
Tada new Which are well attested in Mesopotamian history that did
AA. New were known in the middle of
the third millennium BC. So we're talking 24, 2500 BC,
the Sumerians were afraid of them, consider them a threat.
They were wild dangerous, they lived out in the open, they ate
raw meat, didn't he didn't live in proper houses like, you know,
nice civilized Sumerians did when they were buried, they
didn't have proper Graves. And and in fact, the last
Sumerian Kings to rule over Mesopotamia what Scholars called
the third dynasty of UR, who ruled between about 2100 in
about 2000, BC. Just about the time, Abraham was
born. They actually built a wall near
modern Baghdad. 175 miles long to keep out the tadano.
And and we know this because they found inscriptions that
describe the name of the wall, as literally, the Amorite wall,
that keeps the tadano away. The problem for the last
Sumerian Kings of Mesopotamia is that it didn't keep the tadano
away and around 2000 BC their Kingdom fell.
There was a hundred years of kind of a dark period then
suddenly by 1900 BC about the time that Abraham was making his
way towards Canaan roughly all of.
These Amorite kingdoms were in control of everything in ancient
Mesopotamia, from what is now Western Iran to Southern turkey,
to even Northern Egypt was under the control of amorites and the
chief God, of course, being welder Creator God, L the chief
got Bail, the storm God known to the Greeks as Zeus and the rest
of the pantheon. So this is what, and what has
really been astonishing for me to learn is that over the last
40 or 50 years now, It's just that recently that Scholars have
begun to realize. Yeah, you're, you know, there
was this Cult of the Dead that venerated the ref.
I eme all around ancient Israel and in fact, it even lured in
the Israelites. Well, that was the point of the
book, Sharon and I wrote a year ago called veneration on how
this veneration of the Dead. In other words, the spirits of
the Dead Nephilim was a snare that Drew Israel, and even
before they cross, the Jordan River to attack the city of
Jericho, And how that was still a problem. 700 years later when
when Isaiah was condemning Israelites for eating forbidden
food, like pork and in an eating amongst the tombs where they
were practicing these rituals. And we go into some detail about
the Amorite. Rituals that have been attested,
going back to 23 2400 BC. It was a snare, but we also
showed then this with this connecting paper, really?
Lee Central to the whole thing am are honest and that paper
showing how the Greeks and their demigods were really just
they're understanding of the ref.
I aim that were venerated by the ancient amorites and the
Canaanites. So, Heracles Perseus Theseus,
bellerophon Cadmus all of them by definition were Nephilim and
the veneration of the heroes. The way they practiced it was
very similar to the rituals of the amorites practice with Niels
held at the tombs where they were summoned by name and that
as we showed in the book veneration was brought into the
Christian church. Because it was so ingrained in
the culture of the people who lived around the Mediterranean
that the early Christian Church, wouldn't give it up.
And it was Augustine in the early 5th Century, who said, you
know, the souls in the spirits of the Saints can intercede for
us in this life. He tried to christianize the
practice and that's how we get the veneration of saints in the
Roman Catholic, and Orthodox Churches.
Today, it all goes back to the ref.
I aim the Nephilim. So these entities have been
behind the scenes all this time like Meandering through and kind
of like showing up in the secular culture as well to
influence things and cause confusion.
Jin. It's crazy to hear it sounds
crazy. But when you start looking at
this and realizing that the information on which we are
basing, our conclusions is peer-reviewed secular research
from archaeologists in a pig refers who study these ancient
texts? You can't reach another
conclusion. This is not internet level
research and I don't, you know, be little internet research
because that's what got me started down this whole thing.
But in order to make sure that we Got the right conclusions.
We wanted to go beyond, you know, stuff that I found it
somebody's website, or what have you show me the work of the
archaeologists? What is this text actually mean?
How does this connect to that? And when you when you start
piecing, the puzzle together, the picture becomes clear that
yes, these entities have been interfering in human in human
history since the beginning and you're my Kaiser explains it in
his book, The Unseen realm. Which if your listeners It read
it. They really need to as
foundational to all of this. I'm on the edge of my seat right
now, just listening. I'm like, oh my goodness, so
real quick, I want to ask you about this Derek in the Psalms
where Jesus is saying, my God, my God.
Why hast Thou forsaken me and he goes on to say and strong Bulls
of Bashan, having me Compass around me.
Mmm, the Bulls of Bashan. Are they also in reference to
the spirits of the Nephilim will?
Absolutely. Yeah, but Sean was the region to
the South and Southeast of Mount Hermon and it was known in the
ancient world as Ali, the entrance to the netherworld.
We knew that this was the case, but Sharon, and I stumbled onto
some information from the Israel, archaeological
Association, or the Antiquities Authority.
That's what I'm looking for. The IAA, the Israel Antiquities
Authority on the locations of dolmens in the Golan Heights.
Now dolmens are megalithic funerary monuments that are made
out of really, really big Stones.
A lot of them are just a simple trilithon construction.
We get Big slabs of stone standing vertically parallel to
one another and then like a tabletop across.
The top, looks like a real simple version of, you know,
Stonehenge put a bunch of them in a circle, you have something
like Stonehenge. Well, there are more of them
concentrated in a smaller area in the Jordan River Valley than
pretty much anywhere on Earth. I guess Korea actually has more
dolmens than the than the Jordan Valley but from the Dead Sea up
to Mount Herman, there's something like 25,000 dolmens
that have been found so far and 5,000 of them.
Malone on the Golan. Willie D.
Israel, Antiquities Authority has a map of the location of
these dolman fields. And when you look at the map and
just plot the red dots out on a Google Earth, it's like there's
this big cluster of red just to the North End Of The Sea of
Galilee. Okay.
Now, what is that about? And then you start
cross-referencing that with some of these texts that have been
translated just within the last 40 years from this ancient
amirite, Kingdom of you Garrett. And you find that in one of the
stories, this is the called The Epic of a cot AQHA.
T a cot is a young hero who is the son of the king whose name
is Daniel. Interestingly.
And he's given this this really awesome Bo by the Craftsman God
and the war goddess an at decides that she wants it.
So she asks him for and he said no I don't think so.
It's similar to the way the in the Gilgamesh epic.
He refuses the advances of the goddess inanna and and that is
is kind of an aspect of inanna who is like the goddess of sex
and War. So he refuses to give her the
bow, so she conspires in has some other entity kill him and
the father Greaves, and in this epic, you read that, when I find
him, I will agree for him. I will bury him in a hole with
the gods of the earth and the gods of the earth in Hebrew.
It's a Retz Elohim. Now, it's written that written
in Hebrew, but that's the cognate for the ugaritic, but
what he's referring to bury him in a hole in the Earth or a tomb
in the Earth. With the gods of the earth.
He's referring to the ref. I eme.
So he searches, and he repeats this, this formula like three
times. And finally, he finds the
remains of his son and says I will bury him in a tomb with the
gods of the Earth or for the gods of the Earth at kinneret.
But kinneret is the Sea of Galilee.
So there's this understanding and this, this text written
about the time of the judges shows that even in Northern
Syria near the border of turkey, there was an understanding among
people in the time of the judges that there was something special
about burial for special persons, who wanted to join the
Council of their the Assembly of the ref.
I eme after death, these, you know, powerful entities, not as
powerful as the big Gods but still you know, powerful enough
that they would be buried. At the Sea of Galilee in the
land of Bashan. Like, all right.
Well, that's really curious. Again remembering that Mount
Herman was the location of the threshing floor of the
Tabernacle of L, the Creator, God of the Canaanites and his
assembly. But at the foot of Mount Hermon
caesarea, Philippi also called Benaiah sore, penny has The
Grotto of pan, which was believed to be even an ancient
times the literal entrance to the underworld.
Our friend, dr. Judd Burton did his doctoral
dissertation on the religious history of papayas and Scholars
have found Inscriptions in Greek.
That made it pretty clear that some of the sacrifices that were
tossed into the cave because that used to be the origin of
the River. Jordan, it is shifted since then
because of earthquakes that it was, there were human sacrifices
that were tossed into the, the water there and it was believed
that if the sacrifice sank and was accepted.
But if it didn't, if it just floated, it was rejected by the
God. So there was something about
that area. It was believed going back at
more than 3,000 years. For sure, based on texts that we
now have that, something about that whole land from Mount
Hermon down to the Sea of Galilee was like a giant
necropolis. And again, we've got all of
these dolmens at probably date back to 0, the time of Abraham
or earlier. So 2000, BC, maybe even earlier.
And then when you start looking at some of the other weird stuff
that we've stumbled across their, I mean, gilgal riff I
aim, which is what's called is, Israel's Stonehenge, except that
it's older and bigger than Stonehenge.
You know, the concentric Rings circles that about 20 miles
south of Mount Hermon, you can see Mount Hermon plainly on the
Northern Horizon from gilgal rephaim.
The Scholar has done the most recent excavation there.
Dr. Michael Friedman said that in all likelihood, this was part
of a prehistoric, Cult of the Dead.
Okay. So in his most recent dating
pushes the, the construction of this back to probably about 30
750 BC. So no, okay, Abraham, roughly
2000 1900 BC, okay. That's when we start getting
into historic biblical Territory, go back to 3750 BC
possibly as far back as 4,000 BC and you've got this huge Huge,
Monument, engineered and built. Just for a cult of the data
means things 500 feet across something like 40,000 tons of
stone compared to Stonehenge, which is got about 25,000 tons
of stone. What's even more interesting is
that when dr. Friedman was Excavating there
back in 2012, they found an older wall.
Outside. The the area of gilgal of the
the actual Circle itself gilgal ref.
I am outside the outer ring which apparently had been
dismantled to build gilgal rephaim itself so there was
something else even older on that location.
But what blew us away was after? We got back from our tour of
Israel in 2019 and I decided to look at the area in Google
Earth. I wanted to determine the
direction of the gates because there are two gates that enter
into this maze. One in the one, to the
Northeast, one of the southeast. And I noticed a quarter of a
mile north of gilgalar. Fim was this long serpent shaped
Ridge about a quarter of a mile. North of gilgal, ref a Masai.
Sharon, can you come here and take a look at this and see if
I'm imagining things. She said that looks like a snake
like well yeah, it kind of does doesn't it.
So, I remembered I had seen an academic paper about gilgal
rephaim with a map on it that plotted out the locations of all
of the dolmens and burial Cairns these these megalithic tombs The
date back to this period of History, 3,500 to 4,000 BC and
lo and behold all of the, the tombs in that area are clustered
with a few exceptions, but they're clustered on the back of
this three quarter of a mile, long serpent shaped Ridge.
Now interesting. Why would they do that?
Yeah. Is this Ridge natural?
Well, most scholars. Believe that it is that it was
just like a Big Blob of lava. That hit the earth in a weird
shape and cooled there, but it's 20 to 25 feet high is about
3,700. Feet, long 3 quarters of a mile,
which means that it is about three times longer in about four
or five times higher than the Great Serpent Mound in Ohio, And
it's covered with 130 dolmens in about a dozen megalithic Cairns
which are just big piles of rock under which somebody was buried.
Dated to that same period of history and maybe a little
earlier and what? Dr. Freedman said was it thing
that's really bizarre is that at some point around 3500 BC or
thereabouts? There were a few dwellings on
the back of this maybe I don't know the caretakers for the
property, I don't know. But all of these burial to these
tombs and Karen's are on the back of this thing.
None of them on the low ground between it, the quarter mile
between it and yoga RFI team At some point, they knocked in the
the appeared of knocked in the roofs of these houses that they
were dwelling in blocked up. The door's broke all of the, the
basalt utensils that they used in the home, like, bowls and
things like this, just broke them.
And then set the whole thing on fire and then buried it and then
left and was not resettled. Nobody knows why Absolutely
weird. Now what does this have to do
with the Bible in biblical narrative we're just saying look
we got this long, serpent shape thing, covered with tombs, a
quarter of a mile, north of this big site for venerating the dead
within eyesight of Mount Hermon. In the middle of a place called
Bashan. And oh yes, the word DeShaun in
Hebrew is a cognate, which means same word different language for
the ugaritic word. Both on which means serpent.
In other words, ahava Shan was ruling over land.
That was literally called place of the serpent.
Now, if you want to get into Revelation, what's even more
strange is this, there was a myth in ancient aquella CAD, you
know, the land of Sargon, the Great going back to probably
2600 BC. Now bearing in mind that that
was probably what 1,200 years, thirteen hundred years after
this long, serpent shaped Ridge was abandoned.
Okay, there is a And inscription, a, a piece of
artwork that's on display at where's the Bible lands Museum
in in Jerusalem, maybe, but anyway, it depicts.
The hero Warrior gotten in Narita battling a seven-headed
serpent. And one of the heads, by the
way, seems to have suffered a mortal head wound, anyone who's
familiar with Revelation chapter 13, that should ring a bell.
But what's fascinating, is that the tide the name of that
seven-headed serpent in ancient? A cad is Bosch mu Bosch mu is
the Acadian form of both on or bhushan?
So you've got the seven-headed serpent that had to be defeated
by the warrior God. In order to create order out of
chaos because that seven-headed serpent was just another name
for Tiamat or Leviathan, the chaos dragon.
And it's name was Josh mu or Vachon.
So, OG of Bashan, is it a coincidence that when Moses and
the Israelites on live, their first military Target was not
Jericho. It was odd of Bashan.
Yes. Whoa.
Oh my God. I know it's mind-blowing.
We're going to write a book next year.
In fact, it well, it may have been pushed back because we
pitched another idea to Tom Horn, but we plan to write a
book simply on this this, this story of the primordial serpent
representing chaos, that had to be defeated and certainly this
this mound in Bashan will be part of it, but that will
probably factor into another book.
That were writing next year anyway.
On that whole region, and the supernatural connections, along
the Jordan River as I sit here. And just listen, I'm, I'm
enamoured. You're a wealth of knowledge.
You covered so many things tonight.
I'm really excited for the audience to hear this episode.
I hope maybe next year, I can have you back love to.
I love to learn and I you know, credit my mother.
You know, God bless her. She's 83 years old and still
with us. And every chance I want to take
every chance I have. While she still with us to give
her the The credit for teaching me to read and to love it and
teaching me to learn and to love learning.
But more than that, she was a school teacher in her younger
days. You know, one room School House
in the middle of North Dakota decided she didn't like the
winters there and moved. But anyway, that spirit that
that love of teaching to I think has been passed down to me.
So, you know, when I get opportunities to talk for people
who enjoy hearing the things that I'm excited about happy to
do it anytime. Well, any last words, you want
to say to the audience before we Wind down to the end of the
episode here. I know that a lot of us have
been looking at the presidential election here.
And it's really easy to get very angry about what has gone on.
I think anybody who thinks clearly and is not overly biased
one way or the other can say, yeah, there are real
inconsistencies. Here it is.
Just highly highly improbable to the point of impossibility that
the man who's likely to be inaugurated.
January 2020 is, is was Actually the winner of this election, but
the one thing we need to remember is that in all things,
you know, January 21st of 2021, no matter who is inaugurated,
God will still be on the throne, but we know.
As Jesus told the apostles that he is gone on ahead of us to
prepare a place in his father's house.
There are many mansions and if it weren't so he would have told
us. God is still in control and if
he's allowing this it's only because he's getting ready to do
something. Something perhaps, even more
incredible than we can imagine. So we are to keep in the word,
keep praying and then stand back and Marvel at what God is about
to do. Well, that's it.
That's the show everybody. I hope you enjoyed this with
Derek Gilbert, what an excellent episode.
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