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Hello folks, this is Princess. 
You are listening to the 

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Millennial. 
Mustard Seed Podcast, thanks for

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listening. 
Don't forget to share with your 

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friends. 
That's tough. 

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We're in a very tough spot. 
I think that what we're doing 

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right now is a great benefit and
virtue because it's an end 

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around between this whole 
corrupt informational system, 

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media system. 
We claim to believe in a God who

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spoke the universe into 
existence and literally raised 

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himself from the dead, and yet 
we are not going to believe that

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anything else exists in the 
spirit realm, even though His 

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word tells us that they do. 
Their bodies weren't permitted 

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to go to sleep like humans do, 
and they weren't permitted to go

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to heaven. 
So they wander the earth. 

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You know, I've seen the eyes 
turn black to unknown tongues 

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being spoken. 
These giants would live way up 

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in the Highland. 
The young Braves, the young men 

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would hide up in the. 
Trees and wait for. 

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One of these 12 footers to come 
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Down the path and. 
They would jump on them and kill

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them. 
Drag them back to the village, 

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and the village would feast on 
the body freedom. 

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Then people start to get 
weapons, they start to get 

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armor, they start to build 
cities, they start to fortify 

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their cities. 
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Down and there's violence 
everywhere. 

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The battle, this war that we are
at is not against each other. 

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It's against these 
principalities and these rulers 

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and these archons in the high 
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It's really worthwhile to read 
the Bible yourself. 

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Fear. 
Is one of the primary drivers of

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mind. 
Control. 

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Because we have to. 
Take every thought captive and 

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resist fear. 
You're going to have a testimony

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that is a justice case against 
the Kingdom of darkness. 

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Music. 
Welcome back to the MMSI Am, 

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your producer, creator and part 
time host Rod Smith. 

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This may be one of the most epic
broadcasts I've been a part of 

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to date. 
I don't say that lightly. 

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I'm joined by the one and only 
Dan Duvall, founder of Bride 

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Ministers International and host
of Discovering Truth with Dan 

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Duvall. 
I'm also joined by Basil 

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Rosebaugh, Co founder of Canary 
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Talk, as well as my Co host for 
this episode, Carly. 

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And it's humbling to be a part 
of such a explosive 

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conversation. 
Revelatory. 

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I mean, we get some of the back 
story of the early days from Dan

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and Basil. 
The last time they were on air 

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together was over 10 years ago. 
And somehow I've been able to 

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facilitate this conversation, 
reuniting old friends on air. 

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It's just it's, it's 
unbelievably cool. 

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We talk about the Veil, warfare,
reality, the Revival hidden in 

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the Fringe, and so much more. 
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Here's just a couple of topics 
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Our list out. 
The Veil is tearing Revival 

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through the destruction of the 
false reality overlay. 

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The rise of Heaven's armies, 
Survivors of SRA becoming 

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frontline warriors. 
Reprogramming, deprogramming the

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Ekklesia from MK Ultra to 
Kingdom Awakened. 

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News as sorcery media as a 
control grid and the Canary Cry 

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Kingdom counter attack, mapping 
the fringe to foundation. 

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How prophetic podcasts seeded 
the revival that we're seeing 

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happen now, you guys, I'm going 
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that get quoted on this Round 
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Revival isn't coming. 
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inside the walls. 
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your soul. 
I say that Rod Smith, We're not 

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reacting anymore. 
We're executing the judgments of

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God in earth, Carly says. 
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is the agreement of God's people
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getting started, says Dan 
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Without Christ as the new veil, 
the tearing would have destroyed

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us, but now we're magnetized to 
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Rosewater. 
Such a fascinating get together.

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I really hope you guys enjoy 
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This is legendary to say the 
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Listen to the entire thing. 
Don't skip it. 

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Don't think that it's corny or 
whatever, but I don't know what 

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you're thinking, but just listen
to the whole episode. 

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Super quick maintenance like 
share and subscribe. 

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You can find details in the show
notes to my book. 

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Share these episodes because 

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it's just the right thing to do 
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person that's just like me and 
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I think it's about time to jump 
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I'm ready. 
Are you guys ready? 

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Let's go. 
Let's go. 

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Razzle Dazzle. 
I'm your best buddy Basil from 

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Canary Cry Radio and Canary Cry 
News Talk. 

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And I'm Dan Duvall, welcome to 
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Podcast. 
It is so epic to be here with 

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all four of you because I'm 
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Co host for this episode and I 
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honor for both of these men. 
Dan Duvall from Bride Ministries

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and he also has Discovering 
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Basil OG from Canary Cry Radio 
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guys are old friends. 
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step out of the way and just I 
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was the last time you guys were 
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It is epic to witness this 
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Welcome, gentlemen. 
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Great to see you, Dan. 
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before we are recording and of 
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the real mushy stuff out before 
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But you know, it's very 
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Ganz and I, we question why are 
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What are we, are we wrong? 
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Have should we have stopped a 
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And then to see guys like you 
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perspective, at least from what 
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the same time, at a time when 
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different and what we were doing
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security threat, which was, you 
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Right, Yeah. 
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met actually, I, I have actually
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I don't know, is that old 
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Because we, we met at a, a 
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Turned Upside Down. 
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through a major transition in my
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I actually just gotten fired 
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And I don't even know that I had
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with Dan DePaul. 
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over a decade ago now. 
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in person. 
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Hagman's and unfortunately Joe 
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away since that, this, this, I 
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everything has changed. 
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different world. 
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I will say at the top here, 
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It's a little rough this morning
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because I'm sick and fighting 
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from the CIA. 
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changer that helps resist AI 
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sound waves of your voice. 
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for. 
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we're charging it. 
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that'll just be a good, I don't 
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just start praying for me 
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coming for me. 
They found me. 

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texted me or I texted you, I'm 
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be there tomorrow. 
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left field, right? 
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Basil and give him the words to 
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should speak that which is 
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heaven, Father. 
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we're just going to agree that 
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perfect amount, the perfect 
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Yeah. 
Dude, you're a trooper for 

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showing up like you, you want 
guns do so much and and you 

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know, multiple broadcasts a 
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You're doing the clubhouse, the 
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and getting the interaction with
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listening from out there. 
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quite a lot. 
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two hours into yesterday's show 
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sovereign and everything happens
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I'm it is, I don't even say it 
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to set it off with you talked a 
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older days, right, reminiscing 
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things that bring you to present
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to guys like I don't know me who
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maintain the calling and walk it
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doing this for so long. 
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relevant things that that are 
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I don't know how you feel about 
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Gods actually put together the 
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Kingdom Government and the 
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Higher dimensions, parallel 
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I actually roped them into that 
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communicated on was when he was 
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higher dimensions, parallel 
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So, you know, I mean, timeline 
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different views of timeline. 
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this, because my timeline, it 
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different areas of Christianity.
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bride ministries kind of on our 
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work that I was focused on was 
centered on survivors of satanic

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ritual abuse and, and, and the 
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And so I began as a researcher. 
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researcher, Basil's a 
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researcher, Steve Quayle was a 
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Like, you know, and there's 
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of the, the conference that we 
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You know, I, I had some overlap 
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I had some overlap with Rob 
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Rob Skiba has since passed away.
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that those connections were 
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trying to explore that and how 
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prophecy in light of current 
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And, and, and, you know, there 
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like a tip of the hat to the 
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And how did those projects weave
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And, you know, I mean, we were 
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be the Antichrist, like guilt 
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we met, he was, you know, in his
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And it's just like, is he going 
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Who knows? 
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that thought he would. 
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different time. 
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didn't even like anywhere I 
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you know, like you are a heretic
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daughters of Seth that are 
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kids that just have a sin 
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got to break that now. 
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ancient, like, why would we 
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what's next, you know, tell us 
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get in there? 
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me, we got pulled so deep into 
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we had to start training people.
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you for telling me that. 
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industry that like you are the 
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talking point. 
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something, you're you're 
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about Nephilim, you know, 
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of ranked hierarchy of bigness, 
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halftime show. 
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was really this time where I 
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myself, guns, Dan, I mean, go to
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like you said, Dan, Doug HAMP, 
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There was nobody, like, at least
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was really young at the time and
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granted that I was surrounded 
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listenership, many of whom are 
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Canary Cry Radio, our primary 
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creating this content that we 
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You know, would, would, would 
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They would appreciate it. 
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wasn't so much more out there. 
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probably would have buckled in 
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earlier. 
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you kind of focused in on your 
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know, again, I think that's it's
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we've, we were some of the first
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time that Flat Earth wasn't like
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people to be super into. 
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podcast to just kind of be like,
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know, we're, we're so happy to 
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what is the practical purpose of
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What does this have to do, you 
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putting it through this lens 
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that point, you know, 4-5 years 
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knowledge base that, you know, 
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interested in. 
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our daily lives? 
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How does it affect our faith? 
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politics? 
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was just a way for us to apply 
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knowledge base and personal 
relationships with great 

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researchers like Dan. 
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on a daily basis? 
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perception as we just walk 
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develops from there. 
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long, you know, the Super long 
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COVID just because we had the 
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what it is today. 
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you know, the Lord you, I kind 
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a magnifying glass on us, you 
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and blessing us in so many ways.
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really doing what we do now, he 
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magnifying glass and suddenly 
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was like striking us that 
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metaphorically really lit a fire
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know, this is this. 
Shouldn't, you know, this 

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worldview, this collection of, 
of, of, I don't know, weird 

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explorations of life in the 
Bible and faith and history and 

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the things in the shadows going 
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should have some sort of 
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to it. 
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really was around there that we 
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the interviews. 
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wouldn't have calmed down on the
interviews and we would have 

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been talking with Dan Duvall, 
you know, at least a couple 

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times a year because at the same
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important work. 
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history, I guess. 
Thanks for the opportunity to 

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kind of speak through that, that
history in in a time and place 

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that I'm allowed to instead of 
me trying to slip it in to a 

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broadcast or something when it 
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So thank you for that 
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Absolutely. 
Well, you guys are uncovering 

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what you have now coined Dan as 
the false reality overlay back 

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in 2012, 2013. 
It's like we were it was being 

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mapped without us knowing it, 
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We were starting to see how what
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was in fact a simulation, for 
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And Baz, where you went into 
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it and having these 
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but then became normal. 
You said, where's the practical 

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application of this? 
That that was a question in your

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head. 
And then I'm looking over at Dan

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like, but that was Dan was doing
the practical application of 

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this in your ministry, which is 
taking people out of the false 

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reality overlay and subscribing 
them back. 

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Their humanity, their purpose, 
their essence, their scroll, 

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their timeline, all those 
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Because the reason why that 
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working is because of how much 
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Like a super pattery pack just 
powering up the Kingdom of 

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darkness. 
And Dan's over here like, we're 

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not doing that anymore. 
And that's what the Holy Spirit 

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came in. 
And that is the practical 

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application. 
And I really don't see them as 

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very different, right? 
It's like you, you have a map 

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and then you, you follow the map
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doing. 
And that's the relationship that

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I'm seeing between the two of 
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And only God, one wise God, 
could draw this connection, 

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follow this red thread through 
time and space and people and 

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jurisdictions and all these 
things to make something so 

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powerful as the restoration of 
humanity to his original 

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intention. 
The understanding that's 

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required for that, the 
application, the wisdom, the 

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prayer, the language, the 
spiritual mechanics is just it's

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life changing, it's globally 
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It's cosmically revolutionary. 
Wow. 

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It's good. 
It's just such a beautiful thing

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to see how the Lord weaves us 
together. 

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Well, when we zoom out, that's 
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that's what I was moved to with 
this opportunity because I have 

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so much respect and just love 
for both of your content, Dan 

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and Basil and and shout out to 
Dan. 

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So hopefully we get locked in 
with him here here soon to kind 

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of come in and dovetail a little
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capturing growth journeys and 
and asking serious questions. 

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Like I tell people, I don't take
this lightly, like this isn't 

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just something fun for me. 
I've done this in the gutter 

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through hardship deprivations, 
through literally some really 

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rough things that I won't talk 
about detail wise that has tried

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to hinder me from even having 
the opportunity to sit before 

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two people that I honor and and 
see that reconnection come. 

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There's a cost, but there's also
a beauty in starting to see how 

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God is using a a multi layered 
reality of his intention. 

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You've been sent in with a 
purpose and we just get little 

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glimmers at seeing how there's 
this interconnectivity that's 

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encouraging the crossroads of of
now are just as important as 

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they were 10 years ago to what's
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phase of what God has up his 
sleeve. 

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So Dan, I want to ask with 
everything that's going on right

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now, with everything that you've
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your journey and what God, the 
wheelhouse he has you in. 

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What is the most important thing
for us to be focusing and 

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getting a hold of as a body, not
just as a podcaster, as a a 

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ministry, but like as the body 
of Christ. 

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Let let's open up some some deep
understandings here please. 

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The most important thing, well, 
look, I I think that's in in 

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some ways that's an easy 
question. 

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In some ways that's a really 
hard, laborious, taxing and deep

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question to answer. 
So the easy side for such a time

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as this, I don't think God made 
an accident in sending the 

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generation that's alive on earth
today and serving him. 

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I, I, I, I think there was a lot
of intent around those that he 

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sent in and the, IT, it like 
it's about him and it's about 

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his Kingdom. 
You know, it's a big, big shift 

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when you realize that the Bible,
it actually isn't all about man.

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It's actually all about Christ 
that, you know, and we, I think 

450
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:39,240
that when we make Christianity 
all about man, we, we actually 

451
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,160
get confused as to what the meta
narrative is. 

452
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,320
It's all about Christ. 
It's all about Jesus and someday

453
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,880
that he is accomplishing through
man on behalf of his creation. 

454
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,720
And so the way that I look at 
it, that that's where we're at 

455
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,160
right now. 
We are at possibly one of the 

456
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,360
most important generations to 
walk the earth since the time of

457
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,000
Christ. 
You know, you have the people 

458
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,760
that the church age began with 
and then we're sitting at the 

459
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,160
Nexus point of I think the end 
of the age. 

460
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,000
I, I, I think that, you know, 
most people can look at the 

461
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,240
direction of everything that's 
happening and say, wow, this is 

462
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,560
for, for so many reasons. 
And, and I think one of the big 

463
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,480
ones is the artificial 
intelligence conversation. 

464
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,200
I think the artificial 
intelligence conversation 

465
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,480
actually puts us, really, 
really, truly locks us in to a 

466
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,400
timeline at, at this juncture. 
But you know, then we could add 

467
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,920
on top of that the Jesuit agenda
and the underground military 

468
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,120
base agenda and all of the 
connections through these 

469
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:53,200
crypto, these creatures that 
like all of this invasion of our

470
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,320
reality, so to speak, like at, 
at, at ever exacerbated 

471
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,920
quantities. 
Now it, it, it points to 

472
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,760
something that is very 
significant for their for, for 

473
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,000
world history. 
I, I mean, and, and I, I think 

474
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,160
it's pointing towards the end of
the age. 

475
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,520
So, so the generation is 
carrying this torch was I think 

476
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:18,000
selected and our primary is to 
look to Jesus for our purpose at

477
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,440
this time. 
Yeah, Amen. 

478
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,920
You really touched on something 
that I was just recently going 

479
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,840
on about. 
I think it was yesterday on 

480
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Clubhouse and before that, you 
know getting some time to rant 

481
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,560
on Rod's show as well. 
This been doing some extra air 

482
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,840
time has really been developing 
my own emphasis on the important

483
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,760
syllables. 
And Gans did a mini documentary 

484
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,320
on Jesus as the veil yesterday. 
And so we talked a lot about the

485
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,440
veil and veils and what this 
means and how applicable this is

486
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,840
sort of across the board. 
And when I look at what's 

487
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,760
happening in the world as a 
whole, not just in current 

488
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,000
events but in people, when you 
tell the story of the 

489
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,400
crucifixion of Christ, the 
story's told. 

490
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:18,520
He's nailed to the cross, He's 
stabbed with a spear and raises 

491
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,440
3 days later. 
And what is not usually told in 

492
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,280
that, you know, in that telling 
of the gospel is he's stabbed 

493
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:33,120
with a spear, He gives up his 
spirit, dead people come to 

494
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:39,520
life, earthquake happens, the 
veil is torn in the temple. 

495
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,360
And you know, it's it kind of 
seems often, I think as just 

496
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,200
sort of supernatural details 
that are kind of skipped over 

497
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,200
for the emphasis on salvation. 
And whatever gets you to 

498
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,320
salvation is great. 
Not criticizing that, but 

499
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:02,960
happening in the exact same 
moment as the contract shifting,

500
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,680
paradigm shifting events in the 
history of man's relationship 

501
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,560
with the eternal God as Christ 
dies on the cross. 

502
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:21,400
The veil also tears. 
I think in a way what we're also

503
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,040
seeing right now, what I could, 
what I see when I look at the 

504
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,920
broad population level movements
and trends that are going on is 

505
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:35,480
there is another veil sort of 
tearing on mass population 

506
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,240
level. 
People are waking up to the 

507
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,440
loosery overlay of what they 
once thought was reality. 

508
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,280
These sort of unimaginable 
control over their perception of

509
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:53,440
reality so deep and so perfected
that the idea that what they're,

510
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,840
you know, hearing on the news or
or whatever, they're down to the

511
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,400
very words that are controlled, 
the language that's controlled, 

512
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,840
that dictates the way that their
brain even, you know, reads 

513
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,560
colors in the world. 
There's this veil tearing in 

514
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,720
another way, and much like back 
at the crucifixion of Christ, 

515
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,400
that veil tearing wasn't just 
crazy supernatural event because

516
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,760
the veil was 4 inches thick and 
nobody could have torn it. 

517
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,640
So it was a show of God, but it 
was also the destruction of 

518
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,520
humanity's observation of what 
was real at the time. 

519
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:41,360
It was the destruction of their 
entire mind's model of what 

520
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,320
reality was. 
Meaning there's the holies of 

521
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,520
holies, and God is in there, and
we're out here and we can't go 

522
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,600
past the veil because that is 
where God is. 

523
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,200
And the veil is also protecting 
us from the overwhelming, you 

524
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,800
know, destructive power of the 
creator of the universe. 

525
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:06,920
So this veil not only is 
separating God from man, but the

526
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,320
veil is also protecting man from
God. 

527
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,239
But the veil is also protecting 
man from God. 

528
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:47,400
And this was reality at the time
this everybody would have known 

529
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,840
this everybody would have based 
their entire understanding of 

530
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:58,280
the universe on this fact. 
And when the veil tears and 

531
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:04,440
suddenly there's no separation 
between what they, you know, 

532
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,520
they, they before the veil 
tears, you know, they're 

533
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,840
basically imagining Indiana 
Jones in the Ark of the 

534
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,480
Covenant, like level face 
melting, God's power rushing 

535
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,640
into humanity and, you know, 
humans not able to handle it and

536
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,000
this sort of thing. 
But when the veil tears, 

537
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,040
suddenly I think, OK, that's a 
pretty drastic event. 

538
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,200
And not only is that, you know, 
I mean, talk about a bunch of 

539
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,640
dead people getting up and 
walking around at the same time,

540
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:42,240
this is an absolute reality 
shattering event for humanity at

541
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,040
the time. 
And in the same way we have a 

542
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,080
reality shattering event going 
on right now on some level, 

543
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,960
which is everybody is now aware.
I'm saying everybody has a 

544
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,080
generalization. 
There are those who are not 

545
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,520
aware. 
And that's very sad and 

546
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,440
frustrating. 
But mass population is becoming 

547
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,120
aware of like, oh, my very 
concept of reality has been 

548
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,320
crafted by a bunch of 
establishment, you know, 

549
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,760
magicians who control the words 
that I use, who control the 

550
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,720
information that gets to me. 
Look at this. 

551
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:24,040
I can list, you know, 100 points
in history that I thought really

552
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,560
dictated what reality was around
me, both from, you know, past 

553
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,400
history all the way now to 
yesterday's current events that 

554
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,560
didn't happen the way that I was
told. 

555
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:42,720
And you have this, you have this
traumatic event going on, which 

556
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:47,960
is more and more people going 
what even what, what is even is 

557
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,360
real? 
What even is happening? 

558
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,720
What even is, you know, I've 
been lied to in a way that I 

559
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:59,080
used to make fun of people for 
insinuating those tinfoil 

560
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Hatters. 
And just like the the veil 

561
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,720
tearing at Christ's crucifixion,
the reason that humanity was not

562
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:12,760
destroyed by that was because 
Jesus and his death and his 

563
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,600
sacrifice became the new veil in
a way. 

564
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:23,360
It became the mediating force 
between man and God, not only, 

565
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:28,480
you know, giving us a portal and
access to God in a way that 

566
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:34,320
nobody had had before, but also 
a new sort of protective layer 

567
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,880
between the raw, unfiltered 
cosmic majesty of the creator of

568
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,760
the universe and man. 
And that's, you know, if, who 

569
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,680
knows if the veil would have 
torn before Jesus had taken that

570
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,040
role. 
Who knows would have happened. 

571
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,920
Maybe that would have been the 
end of, you know, humanity. 

572
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,920
We don't know. 
But if it weren't for Christ 

573
00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:01,200
taking that place at the exact 
moment, establishing, 

574
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:07,760
establishing a new ground of 
understanding for reality, the 

575
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,080
universe and everything, meaning
our connection to God, our 

576
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,960
connection to ultimate reality. 
Thank God we have this new thing

577
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,800
which is Christ, because the 
veil just tore and who knows 

578
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,760
what would have happened. 
And so nowadays we have this 

579
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,880
veil tearing people. 
People's understanding of 

580
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,640
reality is totally getting 
thrown out the window. 

581
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:39,400
And what we're seeing is a mass 
movement on a population level. 

582
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,840
And we can criticize it and we 
can pick it apart and we can 

583
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,080
find all the things we don't 
like about it. 

584
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,160
But we are seeing an 
unprecedented movement towards 

585
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,280
Christ, not just on, you know, 
Gen. 

586
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,640
Z is the most traditional 
generation ever. 

587
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,000
They're turning to religion. 
They're going to church. 

588
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,400
And in numbers that no 
generation has ever seen. 

589
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,840
You know, this whole thing 
you've got, I mean, the big one 

590
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,480
recently was it just came out 
that Joe Rogan is regularly 

591
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,360
attending church. 
And he's very consistent and 

592
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,080
real about this, you know, this 
sort of social cultural power. 

593
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,920
You could arguably say Joe Rogan
has something like the most 

594
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:31,040
powerful, you know, socio 
cultural position of anybody 

595
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,440
else, maybe besides the 
president or something like 

596
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,440
that. 
And for him, excuse me up here 

597
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,480
we go. 
For him to be sort of publicly 

598
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,200
moving in the direction of 
Christ, I think is a great 

599
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,520
reflection. 
You know, he is famously 

600
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,880
secular, famously not Christian 
in the past, also famously the 

601
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,800
most popular guy who is trying 
to see beyond the veil, trying 

602
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,000
to be skeptical about reality, 
these types of things. 

603
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:05,280
And we're watching again that 
without some sort of. 

604
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:09,000
I mean, without Christ, 
honestly, without Christ, when 

605
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,920
the veil tears, it is so 
traumatic to an individual and 

606
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:18,960
to a culture that they are 
forced to seek out the next. 

607
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,200
I mean, not the next, but the 
primary ground of being, which 

608
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,960
is our relationship with God 
mediated through Jesus Christ. 

609
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,800
And so I think we're seeing this
all the way down from the minute

610
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,200
level all the way to the mass 
population level. 

611
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,400
As a millennial, I was always 
told always, I've been a 

612
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,600
Christian my entire life, Every 
second of my life I have been, 

613
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,720
you know, a Christian. 
And I was always told every 

614
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:53,000
single week that the revival's 
coming, the revival's coming, 

615
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,440
the revival's coming, it's going
to change everything. 

616
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,680
Mass movements towards Christ is
going to be amazing. 

617
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,560
And we are told that it was 
going to be millennials told, it

618
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,240
was going to be my generation. 
That didn't quite work out the 

619
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:07,640
way that we were told. 
But it is Gen. 

620
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:15,160
Z and we are seeing what I was 
told for my whole life, a mass 

621
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:20,800
revival, huge movements of 
culture towards Christ and the 

622
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:28,760
fact that it is sort of orbiting
around this obsession that came 

623
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,480
into my life. 
And, you know, 2010, 11/20/12 

624
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,880
about being skeptical about the 
reality that we're being fed and

625
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:42,000
diving deeper into the weird, 
you know, crevices of what 

626
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,080
reality is. 
What does it look like, you 

627
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,800
know, all through a biblical 
lens? 

628
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:50,520
It's it's it's a little bit 
traumatic to me now to see this 

629
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,400
revival happening, at least by 
the numbers based around the 

630
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:02,840
most unexpected cultural, I 
don't know, tweak that any of us

631
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:08,640
could have could have expected, 
which was this sort of to use 

632
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:16,120
the word, you know, conspiracy 
theory, fringe skeptical sort of

633
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,720
lens leading people to Christ, 
but not just leading people to 

634
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,720
Christ in sort of a general 
evangelical way. 

635
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:31,200
It is people are now requiring 
Christ and naturally moving 

636
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,520
towards their requirements 
because of the tearing of the 

637
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,360
veil of what reality is and 
isn't. 

638
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,200
Now that's been of course long 
time coming and I apologize 

639
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,480
'cause I totally forgot what the
question was, but that's kind of

640
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,120
what I'm seeing happen as far as
the most. 

641
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,480
I guess you asked about like 
what's the most important thing 

642
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,440
happening? 
And I think the most important 

643
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,680
thing that I see happening is as
a result of the work of Dan and 

644
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,960
Skiba and people who have been 
sort of relegated to the weird 

645
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:11,520
corners, whatever spiritual 
ancestry that is descended as 

646
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,120
far as ideas, spirits, 
principalities, powers with 

647
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:19,240
which, you know, we, I don't, I 
don't feel, I think a lot of 

648
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:25,040
guys in our ring don't feel like
they've had a whole lot to do 

649
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,000
with with what's going on in the
world. 

650
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,600
But I'm just encouraged that the
biggest revival that I've ever 

651
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,000
seen, and at least according to 
the numbers, is the biggest one 

652
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,360
in many generations, happens to 
be coinciding or perhaps even 

653
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:48,840
propelled by this passion to see
past the illusion in a in a 

654
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,960
biblical way. 
I completely agree with what 

655
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,480
you're spelling out here, Baz. 
And when you were talking about 

656
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,920
the veil, it was making me think
about how the veil in the temple

657
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,040
was of separating force. 
But the veil that is Christ, as 

658
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,440
you illustrated it, is a 
magnetizing force for the 

659
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,400
Father, for life, for recovery, 
for reconciliation. 

660
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,040
And and as you were talking 
about revival, it made me think 

661
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,320
about how we are, we are in a 
revival. 

662
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,240
The reason why it's so hard to 
identify is because it's not 

663
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:29,680
happening inside the predictable
metric bearing 4 walls of the 

664
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,440
First Baptist Church on Main 
Street. 

665
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,640
As Dan likes to say, it's 
because it's happening in the 

666
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,960
broken places of our soul. 
But we realize the only way to 

667
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,720
untangle ourselves from any of 
this is by being completely 

668
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:45,720
naked before God and recognizing
that He has no obligation to us 

669
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,040
to fit inside our intellectual 
box. 

670
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,200
None. 
And that's why revival is 

671
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,320
happening, because people are 
coming to the point where 

672
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,680
they're looking out at the world
and they say, I cannot overcome 

673
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:02,200
this by the faculties of my own 
creativity, by what is presented

674
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,200
to me in the evangelical Main 
St. mainstream Western 

675
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,840
Christianity, corporate American
church. 

676
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,040
I can't. 
So what do I have? 

677
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,880
I have Christ crucified. 
And just like you were saying, 

678
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Dan, that is the foundation of 
everything. 

679
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:22,360
This isn't about us. 
It is to an extent, right. 

680
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,200
But if we become self focused in
these things, we end up making 

681
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,720
religions. 
We end up making formulas. 

682
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,640
We end up doing metrics in 
Church of how many people raise 

683
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,520
their hand to receive Christ and
go back to the same mess that 

684
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,160
happened to them yesterday 
because there's no victory. 

685
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,360
Why? 
Because there's no actual 

686
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,200
relationship that's happening, 
and that is revival. 

687
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:50,560
We are in a revival because 
there are countless people who 

688
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,280
are sitting at the feet of Jesus
day after day after day. 

689
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,600
They don't care if anybody ever 
finds their name. 

690
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,520
They don't care if they publish 
a book, they just want to be 

691
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,040
seen and known by Him in the 
places that they had been afraid

692
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,760
to open the door to. 
And that, friends, is revival 

693
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,320
because it's powering down the 
Kingdom of darkness by virtue of

694
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,640
our liberty, by the expression 
of Christ in US. 

695
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,400
And it doesn't have a stage. 
And that's OK, because trust and

696
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,080
believe when this pot of 
righteousness boils over, the 

697
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,720
whole world is going to know. 
It's going to know is not it. 

698
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,400
The whole world is filled with 
this glory as the water covers 

699
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,160
the sea. 
That's what's coming out of the 

700
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,320
gate of humanity. 
Goodness gracious. 

701
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,240
One of the things that has 
really been part of my my, my 

702
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:49,400
piece is I got pulled out of 
the, the, the research world, 

703
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,080
right? 
And, and God really stationed me

704
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:59,400
on the front lines of contending
with the powers of darkness as a

705
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,640
job description. 
He's like, OK, you said yes to 

706
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,080
this, yes to this, yes to this. 
Now, now, that's great what you 

707
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,000
did. 
That's cute. 

708
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,320
You know, you wrote a book about
wounded by leadership. 

709
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,880
We don't care about that. 
Like what we really care about 

710
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,720
is what you were created to do, 
which is contend and, and, and 

711
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:23,280
contend for What I'm realizing 
now is the Army, the, the Army 

712
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,040
of God manifested through his 
people. 

713
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:30,800
And a a lot of the, the people 
that are called to that army 

714
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,200
and, and, and take up arms 
literally against the emergence 

715
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,800
of Antichrist Kingdom are the 
survivors. 

716
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,040
Like they, the ones that were 
recruited and already activated 

717
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:48,720
as super soldiers, as slaves, as
puppets are, are, are, are being

718
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:53,520
delivered out and then recruited
and released into God's army to 

719
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:59,360
be the ones that take down I, I 
mean, and, and take on some of 

720
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,400
the greatest and most radical 
evil the surface world has ever 

721
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,200
seen. 
So, so I got, I got plopped 

722
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,800
right at the front line and it's
like, you know, you got to 

723
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,120
contend with all of this. 
And, and we did, I mean, you 

724
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,400
know, we could, we could go into
a lot of stories about that. 

725
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,760
But part, part of my journey in 
that was, was, was visionary. 

726
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,680
It's, you know, when I go into 
prayer time, the Lord will show 

727
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,080
me things and, and it that helps
me to fix my, my personal 

728
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,360
spiritual compass to what Jesus 
is doing. 

729
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,240
And one of those times I was in 
prayer and and I did I I saw it 

730
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,240
was like this massive 
battlefield and there was a few 

731
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:34,440
people standing on a hill and 
they were looking at it and it 

732
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,080
was a hybrid army and they and 
they had anti gravity craft and 

733
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,360
it was creatures. 
And I'm sure Bigfoot was in 

734
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,720
there somewhere, maybe a few 
Yeti right dog man, I'll just 

735
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,840
but but like, I think these were
definite hybrid, like it was not

736
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,480
human. 
I was I was looking at this 

737
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,400
army. 
I'm looking at this technology, 

738
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,640
I'm looking at this weapon. 
It's like, OK, that was probably

739
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,560
built on Mars And it's like a 
dark clouds over moving on. 

740
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,000
And these people that are 
sitting on a hill, they 

741
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,280
essentially begin to go into 
prayer or decrees or whatever in

742
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,600
the name of Jesus. 
And then I'm like looking back 

743
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,400
over at the, the whole army and 
the whole army is literally just

744
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,120
brought to its knees. 
They can't move, they can't 

745
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:30,200
fight, they can't do a thing. 
And it's reminiscent of some of 

746
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,400
the stories we see in the Bible 
where it's like God sent the 

747
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,400
worshippers out first and then 
the enemy armies scatter. 

748
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,040
God sent the Angel, the Lord out
and he killed 10s of thousands 

749
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,840
of men. 
Like they just died, you know, 

750
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,800
and, and be like, but I'm seeing
this and it's like, look, these 

751
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,200
are the kinds of people I am 
raising up in the last days. 

752
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,160
Like, like they think they're 
doing all this stuff. 

753
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,840
They think they're building 
their hybrid army in the 

754
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,840
underground bases. 
They think they have this, you 

755
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,080
know, thing locked down because 
they got this secret space 

756
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,320
program running and they, 
they're, they're going to bring 

757
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,960
in all this stuff. 
And it's like they have no idea 

758
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:04,840
the snare that God is setting up
by bringing his army online. 

759
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:12,760
And so, you know, part of my job
became to create the pathway 

760
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,760
because I'll tell you, coming 
out from a background of, of 

761
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,600
super soldier programming, MK 
Ultra, satanic ritual abuse, 

762
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,240
outright mind control, like it 
is hard. 

763
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:28,600
It is hard to break with that 
kind of trauma and step into 

764
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,040
full identity in Christ. 
I mean, it's like a, they think 

765
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,840
on the Kingdom of darkness. 
It's impossible. 

766
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,080
They, they thought they had 
perfected their, their approach 

767
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,240
to this thing and there was no 
hope. 

768
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:39,600
No one's going to figure this 
out. 

769
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,040
Well, Jesus did. 
And he, he's been nugget 

770
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,240
dropping this thing the whole 
time. 

771
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:47,920
And we have seen, I mean, the 
most extraordinary 

772
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,720
transformations over the years 
for, for, for thousands of 

773
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,720
people. 
And it has been wrought with 

774
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,520
opposition. 
I mean, every time I turn 

775
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,480
around, they do the stupidest 
stuff. 

776
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,200
I mean, if I told you some of 
this stuff they do to try to 

777
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,000
shut us down or, or, or, or mess
with ourselves, I mean, the, the

778
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,520
level of witchcraft targeting. 
And I, I, I mean, you know, not 

779
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,880
everybody can say this, but I 
can. 

780
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,160
Like I, I don't even, I don't 
even know how many infants have 

781
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,440
been sacrificed on the altars of
stop ride ministries, but many, 

782
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,160
many have. 
And I, I wouldn't be surprised 

783
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,280
to find out it's in the 
thousands at this point because 

784
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,600
they, they, they have, you know,
a major assignment against 

785
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,480
stopping. 
It's not about me. 

786
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,560
It's, it's about the army that 
God is liberating for such a 

787
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,440
time and space. 
And you have listeners and they 

788
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,840
know they're called in this army
and they know they are put here 

789
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,040
because God put something on the
inside of it and says, you know,

790
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,680
beast Kingdom, I'm not here for 
it. 

791
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,600
I am the resistance. 
So yeah, there, there it is. 

792
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,040
Man, that is so good. 
Talk about multi layered 

793
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:57,480
encouragement. 
Yeah, yeah, this is, it's still 

794
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,600
blowing my mind to have you and 
Basil here at the same time. 

795
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,160
And if I can backtrack a little 
bit for the sake of launching 

796
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,600
even deeper into where we're 
heading, when you were talking 

797
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,680
about what you had the the path 
that you were getting laid out, 

798
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,160
right? 
You're being led by the spirit 

799
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,360
and you're kind of laying out 
this track at the same time, you

800
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,400
see with Basil and Gonz, like 
synchronizing with what's going 

801
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,640
on and adding in this, this 
layer of biblical filter to to 

802
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,240
the masses through a news 
analysis, news breakdown, almost

803
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:35,760
like a Kingdom news agency. 
That was like the resistance to 

804
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,800
the overwhelming messages out in
the airwaves. 

805
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,200
And now those two are kind of 
marrying in the moments of the 

806
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:49,160
listeners across across the 
board here with not only did God

807
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,400
send in, you know, Basil and 
Gans with with a very specific 

808
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,640
agenda in mind. 
Little did they know they would 

809
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,720
they would stumble into what 
they were doing. 

810
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:01,440
If you would have asked them 
that five years old, What do you

811
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,360
want to do when they grow up? 
They wouldn't have probably came

812
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,840
close to what they're doing now,
but they are. 

813
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:14,080
And now we're at a crossroad of 
listeners abroad who may need to

814
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:20,680
start walking in the the rank or
the file of this heaven's army, 

815
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,120
the army of volunteers that has 
been laid with a trajectory 

816
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,400
heaven sent from what Dan has 
brought forward. 

817
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:34,160
It's like here we are. 
It's like we're doing this 

818
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,080
thing, you guys. 
I'm just going to pass it to 

819
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,800
whoever feels led by the Spirit 
to continue because this is more

820
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,760
powerful than I than I had 
originally imagined. 

821
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:51,680
I've said this a few times with 
you on Air Rod, and I say it 

822
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:56,200
pretty much as often as I can, 
but I had a strange couple 

823
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,480
years, pretty traumatic couple 
years. 

824
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:08,640
And then moving in to 2025 just 
really was laden heavily by the 

825
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:14,560
Holy Spirit and really some 
really unexplained. 

826
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,480
I mean, if there's been moments 
in my life where I'm overcome by

827
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,920
a feeling that is sort of 
unexplainable, and then in the 

828
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,400
supernatural way, you know, a 
lot of times when it comes to 

829
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,880
Holy Spirit communications, it's
if you're like me, sometimes it 

830
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,080
doesn't make any sense until 
after the fact. 

831
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:44,400
But when we transition into this
2025 year, first the year, but 

832
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,960
also the start of the new 
presidency, also what seems to 

833
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,760
be a transition in world powers,
what seems to be a transition in

834
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:59,360
some sort of spiritual warfare, 
you know, principalities and 

835
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,880
powers, you know, even going 
down to, you know, this shift in

836
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,680
the papacy of the Vatican to 
this, you know, everything seems

837
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,120
to be in this transitional 
period that we really don't have

838
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:20,480
a whole lot of foundation for 
or, you know, it's been a long 

839
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,280
time. 
It's I have never lived through 

840
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:30,280
a shift that can both be spotted
in politics and culture, in the 

841
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,040
principalities and powers, in 
the supernatural realm. 

842
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:42,240
Just everything is we are sort 
of passing this point of where 

843
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:46,040
experience can inform our 
reaction. 

844
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:51,720
And when the clock struck 
midnight on 2025, I was just 

845
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,720
over, I mean, really laden with 
this heaviness about the time 

846
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:00,520
that we have. 
I can't say that it's, you know,

847
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,680
timing that we have until Jesus 
comes back or timing that we 

848
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,760
have until I can't really 
pinpoint what it is. 

849
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,840
But once the clock struck 12, I 
mean, the Holy Spirit was clear 

850
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,360
as day that like 365 days from 
now, the world is going to be an

851
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,160
entirely different place. 
None of the assumptions that we 

852
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:24,120
make about our world, about 
reality, from the trippy stuff 

853
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:29,440
to the practical stuff, you 
know, our models, our models are

854
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,680
going to get less and less 
useful as we get closer to 2026.

855
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,720
And the reality is, at least 
what was impressed upon my heart

856
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,320
harder than I could, you know, 
describe was that, yeah, we 

857
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,440
pretty much have about 365 days 
until think. 

858
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:53,360
Everything is totally different.
And for me, I know I went years 

859
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,400
thinking or even knowing that I 
was supposed to be doing 

860
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,280
something. 
Maybe I didn't know what it was.

861
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,920
Maybe I just felt like I had 
some sort of role to play. 

862
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:08,840
Maybe I had some project or some
ministry that seems like, oh, 

863
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,000
that'd be a fun thing to do or 
that'd be a fulfilling thing to 

864
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,040
do or whatever. 
But it got impressed upon my 

865
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,920
heart and I cannot stop really 
saying it to as many people 

866
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,840
public publicly as I can. 
Whatever it is that God's laid 

867
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,160
on your heart, now is the time 
to do it. 

868
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:32,240
It's right now because you're 
going to have a hard time even 

869
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:39,280
figuring out what is going on in
the world in the next 365 days. 

870
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,600
You know if if you're your 
heart's desire for how to serve 

871
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:48,960
the Lord, if your vision for a 
future or whatever that calling 

872
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:54,520
is right now, it's based on how 
the world is right now that 

873
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:59,160
informs everything about your 
your the way you think about 

874
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,400
your calling. 
And now is just the time to 

875
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,280
start doing it. 
And of course, for for a lot of 

876
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,000
our people, for a lot of people 
in general, you know, that might

877
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,480
look like starting a podcast. 
It might look like, you know, 

878
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,200
doing a sub stack or whatever. 
You know, everybody's got their 

879
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,520
own thing. 
Maybe it's more boots on the 

880
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,920
ground focus like Dan, you know,
there's some calling, some 

881
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,960
ministry that the Lord is 
equipping and calling you to. 

882
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,240
Maybe it's just getting involved
with something that already 

883
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,600
you're passionate about. 
Maybe it's getting involved with

884
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,640
Millennial Mustard Seed. 
Maybe it's involved with 

885
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,080
getting, you know, getting 
involved with a ministry in your

886
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,760
town, you know, but now is the 
time to do it. 

887
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,000
Now is the time to reach out. 
Now is the time to start doing 

888
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,160
that. 
The the enemy has laid many 

889
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,600
snares. 
He's laid many snares 

890
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,520
politically. 
He's laid many snares 

891
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,840
economically. 
You know, the the uncertainty of

892
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,000
today's world is is by design. 
It's not an accident. 

893
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,640
The entire battlefield is laden 
with booby traps. 

894
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,240
And these booby traps, maybe 
they're not meant to kill, steal

895
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,400
and destroy every time. 
Maybe they're just there to turn

896
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,720
your attention. 
Maybe they're just there to make

897
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:22,560
you focus on some other concern,
whether it's a worldly concern 

898
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,480
or relational concern. 
I don't know what it is. 

899
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,240
But the, you know, the enemy has
had control of the battlefield 

900
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,720
for a long time. 
And when things start to shift, 

901
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,720
when things start to slip, when 
things start to change, it's 

902
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:42,480
moments like this that those 
snares were constructed for. 

903
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,960
So I don't know really what that
means for any individual out 

904
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,320
there certainly feel called the 
hammer at home as often as 

905
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,600
possible that now is the time to
do the thing, whatever the thing

906
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,000
was. 
If you don't even have a full 

907
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,800
picture of it, just take the 
first step. 

908
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,240
You know, you're you have a 
Lantern that shines just as far 

909
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,800
to see the next stepping stone 
in the path that you're meant to

910
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,200
walk. 
And so even if you can only see 

911
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,600
one step ahead, take a step. 
And if you don't know where the 

912
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,600
whole path is going, that's OK. 
You know, God's God wouldn't 

913
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,600
have you move in that direction 
if you didn't have a plan. 

914
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,760
And don't, don't let 
uncertainty. 

915
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,040
There's a lot of there's 
infinite amounts of things to be

916
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:33,200
uncertain about in the world 
today on the micro scale, on the

917
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:40,720
meta scale, on the macro scale. 
But uncertainty is what faith is

918
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,800
for. 
That is, you know, the the faith

919
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,400
is the answer, the weapon 
against uncertainty. 

920
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:55,520
But uncertainty is a snare also.
Dan, I want to ask you a 

921
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,480
question that fits in with all 
of this. 

922
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:04,640
Yep, As the wakening happens, 
how do you see an explosion of 

923
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:10,000
God sending into Heaven's armies
getting in alignment with this? 

924
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,880
I mean, you speak about false 
reality overlay, you know, quite

925
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,400
frequently and that breaking 
down in that transition of kind 

926
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,840
of coming out of these, these 
falsehoods. 

927
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,720
Can you speak to the the, the 
things that may need to be heard

928
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,320
right now in regards to Heaven's
armies coming in alignment and 

929
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,120
cross pollinations of all these 
things starting to brew and 

930
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,680
bubble over? 
What does your mind do with 

931
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,280
that? 
OK, so there's a few layers on 

932
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:43,400
this and this one question could
be its own podcast in my 

933
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,880
opinion, or a whole conference, 
because it's huge. 

934
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,280
Yeah, I know it's, it's, it's 
really big, All right? 

935
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,680
At least from where I sit. 
But I, I'm going to give you a, 

936
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,560
a, a short list of some thoughts
that I have on that. 

937
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,200
So, so, so #1 and, and this is 
where I, I see a lot of things 

938
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,920
starting, you know, I mean, I 
wrote my first book back in 

939
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,360
2010, you know, there was a lot 
of a number of people that 

940
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,120
really started talking about 
Nephilim and hybrids and 

941
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,120
programming and Satanic ritual. 
There's a lot of crossover 

942
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,560
between those worlds, by the 
way, because people that are the

943
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,920
Satanic ritual abuse survivors 
are the ones that are most 

944
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,640
likely to have had encounters 
with the hybrids and the 

945
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,960
entities, especially in the 
underground labs, etcetera. 

946
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,040
But you know that, so that 
crossover is real, but you know,

947
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,800
to even talk about it puts a 
different frequency in the 

948
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,720
atmosphere and it begins a 
conversation. 

949
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,040
And even if that conversation is
only happening between two 

950
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,400
people's ears, that's a 
conversation that's happened, 

951
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,840
that's a mind that's being or in
the process of being unlocked. 

952
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,000
So there's a whole aspect of 
that, this conversation that 

953
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:57,560
happens with disclosure with a, 
a group of people that are not 

954
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:03,320
afraid to have a conversation 
that breaks with the mainstream 

955
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:09,000
narrative and that that begins 
a, a dismantling of the false 

956
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,920
reality overlay. 
Now the false reality overlay, 

957
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,880
the way that I see it is the 
reinforcement mechanism to 

958
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,840
assure success for the 
manipulators of society. 

959
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,840
Because like, like they say, you
know who writes the history 

960
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,240
books? 
The victors and the people that 

961
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,080
have been winning a lot of the 
victories up until this time in 

962
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,600
history have been the 
Illuminati, OK. 

963
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,520
And, and, and it's, it's, it's 
been the Freemasons and these 

964
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,120
groups. 
And so they, they get to write 

965
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,280
the history books and tell us 
where we came from, who we are 

966
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,000
and why we're here. 
Well, that's the fact. 

967
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,040
And what we're realizing is 
almost all of our view of world 

968
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,560
history, which has been given to
us by organizations like the 

969
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,800
Smithsonian and other things, is
it utterly defiled. 

970
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,640
And, and they're sitting on a 
lot of evidence to the contrary 

971
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,960
of the narrative that's being 
put forward. 

972
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,640
And so we, the reinforcement 
mechanism is, if you don't 

973
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,040
believe this version of reality,
which is false, we have this 

974
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,920
whole military arm called the 
psychiatric community that'll 

975
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:13,680
lock you up. 
Now you have to get enough buy 

976
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,440
in on the reality of a false 
reality overlay from people that

977
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,200
are not lockable, like the 
people that can't be locked up 

978
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,600
because they are professionals, 
they are smart, they are 

979
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,720
degreed, they are sitting in 
seats of political influence 

980
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,960
and, and, and Hollywood. 
And the more people that are 

981
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,360
coming, it's like, no, actually,
this is real. 

982
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,520
This is truly, but it has to 
start with the grassroots 

983
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,520
somewhere somehow. 
So shattering the false reality 

984
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:46,680
overlay is, is one part of it 
the next layer to me or another 

985
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,120
major layer is a deprogramming 
layer. 

986
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,160
And this gets into the 
conversation on why I, I don't 

987
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,040
think that revival was ever a 
reality until deprogramming 

988
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,320
became part of the conversation.
Why? 

989
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,520
That's that's why you're 
reacting to that Rod. 

990
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,400
Oh my gosh, why? 
Because there are a lot of 

991
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:11,000
people that have been main 
players in mainstream 

992
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:17,080
Christianity that have been 
either cult plants or just 

993
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:23,840
manipulated by power brokers 
that sit behind the man. 

994
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,920
They, they, they don't get to be
the man of God. 

995
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,880
They have to be the hireling of 
the Free Masonic Board that sits

996
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,440
over the church. 
So you have a whole generation 

997
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,400
of people that have been trained
and equipped. 

998
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:43,160
And I'm going to put that in 
quotation marks by a oversight 

999
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:48,320
in the body of Christ that's 
been tampered with and corrupted

1000
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,800
a lot of leaders in the body of 
Christ. 

1001
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,760
Unfortunately, we're groomed for
that position. 

1002
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,200
And it wasn't by Jesus. 
They were. 

1003
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,400
And it is what we found out when
we got into the work. 

1004
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,400
It's like, so you have highly 
programmed individuals sitting 

1005
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:10,280
in pulpits, but because that's 
what's trusted by the people 

1006
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,720
that have the power and the 
money, that's also what gets 

1007
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,600
broadcast. 
So we are broadcast a version of

1008
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:21,280
Christianity that has been 
groomed to present a version of 

1009
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,720
Christianity that doesn't 
challenge a false reality 

1010
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,520
overlay. 
So that's just one area. 

1011
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:32,640
But you have a whole generation 
of politicians that were groomed

1012
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,440
and programmed to do politics 
not by Jesus Christ and his 

1013
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:42,360
convictions on their heart, but 
by actual satanic ritual abuse 

1014
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:48,760
and MK Ultra inspired 
programming protocols to groom 

1015
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,040
politicians to then be placed in
roles. 

1016
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,000
And, and they get the money and 
they get the influence because 

1017
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,320
they have the backing by the 
power brokers who are writing 

1018
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,120
the history books. 
And I mean it. 

1019
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,760
It's just insane how far down 
the rabbit hole you end up when 

1020
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,240
you start really researching 
these things. 

1021
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:08,840
You realize, wait, the whole 
society has been essentially 

1022
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:14,320
hijacked from within. 
And, and so deprogramming has to

1023
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,720
be part of revival. 
And, and I, I say we're moving 

1024
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,440
past revival because at this 
point in time, what I see is 

1025
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,160
revolution. 
Revival's for the church. 

1026
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,320
Revolution is for the world. 
I see that we are on a path to 

1027
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,200
that, But you can't take 
deprogramming out one of the 

1028
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,560
reasons why the body of Christ 
was so stuck. 

1029
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,840
It's like, why isn't God moving?
Why is he doing more awesome 

1030
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,600
things? 
It's because so many people in 

1031
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,440
the body of Christ have been 
programmed. 

1032
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,120
So many leaders have been under 
programming, so, so much has 

1033
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:47,040
been locked down from every area
of society, whether it's 

1034
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,120
Hollywood and and this is coming
out with the DD trials, who was 

1035
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,400
totally involved in all this 
stuff to the church, to 

1036
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,280
politics, to CEO's of major 
corporate like program 

1037
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,320
individuals sitting in all of 
these major areas being decision

1038
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,240
makers, being gatekeepers. 
When you introduce deprogramming

1039
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,760
into the conversation, and you 
have a groundswell of grassroots

1040
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,560
people calling out the false 
reality overlay for what it is, 

1041
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,680
then you begin to break the 
matrix. 

1042
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:20,880
But that still is only part of 
the conversation, because then 

1043
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:25,240
you have a whole other wave. 
And that other wave has to do 

1044
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,040
with warriors, actual spiritual 
warriors. 

1045
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:34,960
In my spiritual experience, 
whether it's in my own personal 

1046
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,319
prayer closet or on behalf of 
the people God has called me to 

1047
01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:41,120
serve, had to contend with most 
of the highest ranking powers in

1048
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,240
the Kingdom of Darkness, 
including Lucifer and Satan. 

1049
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,720
In a very direct way, it's just 
been part of the job 

1050
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,840
description. 
What I've realized is that they 

1051
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:56,560
have to be reminded who's boss 
because they don't understand 

1052
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,960
anything except power. 
They understand the power of 

1053
01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:02,840
God. 
When God comes and slaps them 

1054
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,200
out of their power structure as 
a result of what his children 

1055
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,560
are doing in response to our 
prayers, 

1056
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:29,200
the army that has to come up and
then it, you know, deal the 

1057
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,200
death blow to these powers of 
that. 

1058
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,600
That's how you actually weaken 
the the movements of the Kingdom

1059
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,520
of. 
So we've gotten into some really

1060
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,040
unique approaches to doing the 
stuff that I think are are 

1061
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:44,359
pretty far ahead of where a lot 
of the, you know, others in the 

1062
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:45,560
body of Christ. 
But that's part of the 

1063
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,840
forerunner concept. 
You know, one of the things we 

1064
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,520
did most recently at our at our 
bribe tribe advanced. 

1065
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,720
You know, we don't do events 
where it's just like, all right,

1066
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,880
everybody just come in, learn 
some information and go home. 

1067
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:03,600
Like at our annual conferences, 
we are always pushing the 

1068
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,520
envelope on something inspired 
by the Lord. 

1069
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,560
This most year, we most recent 
year, we took on Babylon like as

1070
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:14,320
as an entity Babylon. 
And we didn't do it as like 

1071
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,080
platform ministry. 
And I was like, everybody watch 

1072
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,680
me take on the spirit of 
Babylon. 

1073
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:26,000
We did it as like 500 people 
strong in A room in agreement. 

1074
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,400
And I'm, I'm not going to 
explain all the mechanics of how

1075
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,520
we went about doing that, but we
did. 

1076
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:39,920
And everybody that was there 
knows we as one body of Christ 

1077
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:50,040
pronounced judgment on 10/10 
aspects of Babylon's influence 

1078
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,080
in this earth. 
And I have watched this entire 

1079
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:59,440
year the news spell out the 
judgments that the 500 or so 

1080
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:02,320
that were standing with me at 
our bride tribe advanced this 

1081
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,920
year pronounced and and and 
things that literally just made 

1082
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,360
no sense. 
It's like this will never 

1083
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,960
happen. 
No way that's not possible and 

1084
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:14,480
it's happening. 
And so it's, it's the warfare is

1085
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:18,000
not something that happens 
because you have one mighty man 

1086
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,920
of God that sits on a hill. 
Like what what we're moving into

1087
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,800
is an era where it's the United 
body of Christ as a corporate 

1088
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:29,520
temple housing the glory of God.
And that that that's the 

1089
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,760
governing body, that's the 
ecclesia that has the authority 

1090
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:40,160
to then rewire the spirit world.
Now that level of stuff is only 

1091
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,200
going to expand as we go forward
because this is this is where 

1092
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,200
the confrontation to the beast 
system, it happens. 

1093
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,720
And so, so you, you have this 
cascade and then there's phases 

1094
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,640
beyond that that I kind of 
talked to a little bit, but you 

1095
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,640
know, I'm going to pause there. 
I've said enough. 

1096
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,360
No such thing as saying enough, 
Dan. 

1097
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:07,040
There's so much to be said. 
And I love that idea that you're

1098
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,840
painting, which is just exactly 
the marching orders that I've 

1099
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:18,120
been hearing from the Lord too, 
is we, we are, we have to stop 

1100
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:22,280
being on the defensive. 
We execute his judgments in the 

1101
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,120
earth. 
That is not a passive role. 

1102
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,680
That is a because you've sat at 
his feet and you've been naked 

1103
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,120
before him and you've cried your
tears and you've had your broken

1104
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,160
heart and you've you've walked 
through the shadows. 

1105
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,560
You have been clothed in his 
glory because of the humility 

1106
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,680
he's wrought in your soul. 
It's the only thing that can 

1107
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:48,360
carry His glory and His power is
that deep humility that 

1108
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,760
transcends observable action. 
It is your identity. 

1109
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:59,160
And when we, when we execute 
judgement from that place, what 

1110
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,120
is the enemy going to do? 
Nothing. 

1111
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,040
He's going to roll over and feel
sorry for himself. 

1112
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:10,560
Why? 
Because we are his bride. 

1113
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,360
What would He not do for us? 
How would he not show up? 

1114
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,280
It's it's what he has created 
all of this for is the 

1115
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,680
manifestation of who he is. 
And that's being seen in the 

1116
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,120
army of volunteers. 
It's being seen in those who 

1117
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,880
have watched his wisdom execute 
deliverance that mankind could 

1118
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,160
never have mapped out without 
the Holy Spirit. 

1119
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:42,600
And so when you, when I'm I just
yes and Amen to this governing 

1120
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:48,560
body, the truly, the ecclesia 
truly coming online and living 

1121
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,640
it out in ways that are then 
measurable in society and 

1122
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,240
geopolitics and, and whatever it
is, because this is what's 

1123
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,080
breaking forth. 
This is it. 

1124
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,640
There's there's no stopping it 
now. 

1125
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,360
Why? 
Because he's faithful. 

1126
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,680
This has been his plan all 
along. 

1127
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,400
This is just the next step. 
You've talked about ages and 

1128
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,800
cycles and so many of your you 
had a good long sermon series 

1129
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,200
and and scrolls and the pre 
Adamic. 

1130
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,760
And when you roll all these 
things together, it paints a 

1131
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:24,320
picture of momentum that is 
truly beyond wisdom. 

1132
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:30,640
It is so supernatural and 
incredibly providential and and 

1133
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,560
we just have to submit to the to
the prescription of his calling 

1134
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,360
in our day-to-day life. 
What is he doing? 

1135
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:38,880
What is he saying? 
What is he doing? 

1136
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,480
What is he saying? 
It's on repeat in my head. 

1137
01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:44,560
I just invite people to have the
same thought when they encounter

1138
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:45,480
anything. 
What are you doing? 

1139
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:47,200
What are you saying? 
Because the way that the Lord 

1140
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:51,160
executes his agenda in the 
earth, sometimes it's very 

1141
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,840
nuanced, and you are 
underestimating the power of 

1142
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,200
your proclamations. 
Don't sell. 

1143
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,320
Don't prostitute your agreement 
in the earth for demonic 

1144
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,880
agendas. 
Don't shake your head when 

1145
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,240
somebody's saying, oh, the 
darkness is coming, this 

1146
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,680
generation's last. 
No, don't even put an ounce of 

1147
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,000
agreement in that place because 
it's a lie. 

1148
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,560
And you're underestimating the 
power of your agreement. 

1149
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:12,760
And Dan, I learned this from 
you. 

1150
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,880
There is so much value in the 
Kingdom of darkness to human 

1151
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,160
agreement because of who we are.
We can't sell that short and 

1152
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:24,120
those opportunities that come to
declare his judgment in the 

1153
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:28,760
earth to speak as the ecclesias 
sometimes there with there are 

1154
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,640
the whispers. 
It's not always the thundering. 

1155
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,040
It's not always oh, now this 
geopolitical body's doing this 

1156
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,080
thing. 
We must not consent and pray 

1157
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,160
against us like he will whisper 
to you in your you're walking 

1158
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,000
down the street and he'll show 
you some Prince, some ruling 

1159
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,840
entity in a place, and you can 
just listen to him and he'll 

1160
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,960
tell you how to break that 
thing's face off and shackle it 

1161
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,000
to the underworld and just shut 
it up for the rest of eternity. 

1162
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,920
Why? 
Because this is the systematic 

1163
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,120
dismantling of a system that has
held humanity in bondage for 

1164
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,840
generations. 
And he's over it. 

1165
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,280
He's for the liberty of his 
people. 

1166
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,680
God is reconciling everything to
himself in the hashemiens, in 

1167
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:16,040
the heavens and on the earth. 
And so yeah, Carly, not 

1168
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:20,760
underestimating the declaration 
episode 180, I did the spiritual

1169
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,360
Declaration of Independence over
the state of Pennsylvania. 

1170
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:28,960
And with what Dan is saying, I 
really do feel like bride 

1171
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,240
ministry was doing like a way 
bigger thing in the ecclesia. 

1172
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,720
And and some of that trickle 
effect came out through one 

1173
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,880
person saying within my state, I
am going to be that bold. 

1174
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:47,080
The righteous are bold as lions.
Folks, remember that scripture. 

1175
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,080
And so all of this like just 
makes more and more sense as we 

1176
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,840
go along. 
Baz, I want to I want to ask you

1177
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:59,400
because what I what I've been so
blessed by you and Gans is, is 

1178
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,000
the word also says plant and 
water seeds. 

1179
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,000
And then God gives the growth, 
right? 

1180
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,200
And it's like the idea of 
bamboo, that root network, 

1181
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,920
you'll never know it's 
developing. 

1182
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:14,760
It's under the darkness of the 
earth for five to six years and 

1183
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,720
it shoots up within 24 hours to 
8 feet and then higher and it 

1184
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,920
just takes over everything, but 
it builds like this invisible 

1185
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,880
kind of network. 1st and this is
one of these perspectives that I

1186
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,760
believe is encouraging for me 
personally and others out there 

1187
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:32,200
listening with what you guys are
doing through a news analysis 

1188
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,600
through just being kind of 
juggernauts in the space of you 

1189
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,440
can say whatever you want, send 
a million messages and signals, 

1190
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,200
but Basil and guns are going to 
maintain a posture of Jesus 

1191
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,400
Christ as Lord in the midst of 
all of it. 

1192
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:49,040
It's another one of these kind 
of beautiful, if I could even 

1193
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,680
say a, a, a sequence of fivefold
ministry starting to, to come 

1194
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,720
together. 
But like, you know, we're, we're

1195
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,120
each in a lane and have 
something that we specialize in.

1196
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,760
So I do, I want to pass it back 
to you with this idea of 

1197
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,520
combating, right, the stance 
that you have taken just year 

1198
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,480
after year after year. 
We're going to talk about the 

1199
01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:13,880
glory of God and we're going to 
break down the the news in a way

1200
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,040
that glorifies the one name 
that's above every name. 

1201
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,600
And what are your thoughts with 
how many seeds you've planted, 

1202
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,640
Basil that you're unaware of? 
Sorry. 

1203
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,960
Yeah. 
I mean, we're, we're just so 

1204
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,480
blessed. 
It's it's a weird business to be

1205
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:32,720
in. 
Anybody who, you know, primarily

1206
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,480
does stuff online, it's just 
kind of a weird way to live your

1207
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:41,160
life that can have a lot of 
extremes. 

1208
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:47,680
And I will say so grateful to 
God to hear again since because 

1209
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,640
he has sustained us for so long 
just together as a team. 

1210
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:57,640
And whatever he walks us 
through, I'll say it's not every

1211
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:04,880
day. 
But when we do get somebody who 

1212
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,640
reaches out and maybe they've 
been listening again, like I 

1213
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:13,240
said, for 10 years or more, or 
maybe it's a teenager who first 

1214
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,560
heard us, you know, when riding 
in the car with their parents, 

1215
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:29,760
you know, in 2012 or something. 
For me personally, it is an it's

1216
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:33,080
a miracle. 
Honestly, it's an absolute 

1217
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:39,200
miracle because it's a lonely 
business sitting here day after 

1218
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:45,760
day for anyone who is following 
a calling that God has given 

1219
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,280
them. 
When you're called to something,

1220
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,440
you know you must do it. 
You know you must show up, and 

1221
01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:55,440
you know that God's got your 
back. 

1222
01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:02,800
But it's not always apparent in 
the sort of material human way 

1223
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:08,800
that we desire, you know, as far
as day-to-day encouragement or 

1224
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:13,600
day-to-day measurements of 
success or day-to-day reminders 

1225
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:18,720
that you're on the right track. 
And you know, not only with, in 

1226
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,680
this case, podcasting, but you 
know, I've been in the ministry 

1227
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:26,720
in, in all its various forms. 
Since I was very, very young and

1228
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:31,280
for anybody who is trying to 
follow the calling that God has 

1229
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:35,240
put on their hearts, it will 
become intimately familiar with 

1230
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:41,920
this feeling of going long 
stretches and and wondering to 

1231
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:47,840
oneself in the dark of night, Am
I even doing this right? 

1232
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,400
Like am I following am I, what 
am I, what am I doing? 

1233
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,880
Like there's is there a time, 
how would I know if God wanted 

1234
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,880
me to stop or how would I know 
if I got off track with what God

1235
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,760
wanted? 
And he has this amazing ability 

1236
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,920
to bring the perfect person to 
say the perfect thing at the 

1237
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,920
perfect time. 
Not to measure by man's 

1238
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,080
standards, you know, not to 
measure success by man's 

1239
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:19,880
standards. 
But this really gentle, 

1240
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:25,520
gracious, otherworldly 
confirmation, sometimes straight

1241
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,920
from the, you know, the mouth of
children where you go. 

1242
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,360
It does. 
It doesn't even matter what the 

1243
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:35,160
literal words are or what the, 
you know, what the context is. 

1244
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:41,840
But he speaks through these 
little moments of, like you 

1245
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:47,760
said, people saying, oh, I found
you in 2012 and I found you at 

1246
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,360
the right time or oh, I'm 
getting a little bit of a bounce

1247
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,800
back from somebody there. 
I don't know if that was me or 

1248
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,440
whatever. 
And you start living your life 

1249
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,200
by these different standards. 
And it's these standards of God 

1250
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:09,680
sort of just taking a paintbrush
almost and painting your life 1 

1251
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:14,480
little brush stroke at a time. 
And it's, you know, incredibly 

1252
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:19,440
rewarding, but takes takes 
something like getting used to 

1253
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:21,560
something, you know, you got to 
get used to it. 

1254
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,600
And part of that is being so 
sensitive, trying, trying your 

1255
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,600
best. 
But often times it's happens 

1256
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:35,840
when you stop trying, you know, 
to to develop this sensitivity, 

1257
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:41,640
this moment, like somebody said 
earlier, where it's a whisper, 

1258
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:54,360
which is a really special thing,
but totally outside of the usual

1259
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:59,240
measurements of success. 
Now, that being said, when it 

1260
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:04,960
comes to planting seeds, that 
is, I am so grateful to have 

1261
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:09,640
spent enough time in, in the 
church and in ministry to have 

1262
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:15,000
developed to this sense that the
only job we have is to plant 

1263
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,840
seeds. 
And you know, the harvest is, 

1264
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:24,080
is, is God's, is God's domain. 
And it's just been incredible to

1265
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,880
see. 
I mean, back to some of the 

1266
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:33,760
first comments I made in this 
conversation, the it's almost 

1267
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:38,520
like the growing period or 
between planting and harvesting 

1268
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:45,800
is so invisible, happens by 
God's timing and happens in 

1269
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,680
other people's lives that when 
the harvest comes in, it is an 

1270
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,480
absolutely is an absolute 
celebration. 

1271
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,360
I was trying to think of maybe 
some sort of image or metaphor 

1272
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,720
to compare it to, but I really 
have a hard time doing that. 

1273
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,800
But that's, that's really all 
we're called to do. 

1274
01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:08,000
You know, when I encourage 
people to take that first step 

1275
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:14,160
and get doing what God wants 
them to do, there is a, a 

1276
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:18,880
process of disconnecting your 
measurement of success with 

1277
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:25,520
God's measurement of success and
living a life where the best 

1278
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:30,280
thing you can do is say the 
words that God, you know, has 

1279
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,680
called you to say and then just 
wait patiently. 

1280
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,920
And that's on an individual 
level here. 

1281
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,120
And I think we're also seeing it
honestly on a worldwide level. 

1282
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,880
Like Dan alluded to, you know, 
everybody is playing this 

1283
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:49,680
different part in the battle. 
And much like, you know, a real 

1284
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,880
sort of military or an 
intelligence scenario, you only 

1285
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:58,680
really know what your job is. 
You only really know what your 

1286
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,840
instructions are, what your 
orders are, and you know, you 

1287
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:08,280
have to trust that whoever is in
charge has a broader picture. 

1288
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:12,680
And it's being carried out not 
because it's just a brilliant 

1289
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:17,480
plan, but because everybody has 
agreed to just do exactly what 

1290
01:25:17,480 --> 01:25:23,280
they've been ordered to do. 
And so, so I just encourage 

1291
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,720
everybody to do that. 
I'm so well said, Baz. 

1292
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,640
And I mean, Carly, do you kind 
of want to put in, you know, 

1293
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,400
some last thoughts as we we 
start to land this plane and 

1294
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:37,240
then we'll pass it to, you know,
just closing statements. 

1295
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,720
And I'm pretty sure everybody on
the MMS knows where to find 

1296
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,760
Canary Cry Radio and Bride 
Ministries with Dan Duvall. 

1297
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,360
But we're also going to offer, 
you know, a minute for them guys

1298
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,400
to plug in anything they'd like.
So. 

1299
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:55,840
Yeah, I would love to just 
admonish the listener to 

1300
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,120
recognize how intimate and 
personal your walk with the Lord

1301
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,240
needs to be as the world 
continues to change and turn 

1302
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:10,960
into something that we can't 
entirely conceive of right now. 

1303
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,040
The most important thing that 
you have in your arsenal is 

1304
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:18,880
knowing His voice. 
That is going to be everything 

1305
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,520
and it has been everything the 
whole time, but it's been 

1306
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:27,800
overlaid with formulas and bunch
of math stuff that just, it's 

1307
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:32,720
not going to suffice for what 
we're walking into and keep 

1308
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,040
pressing in. 
It's not a performance. 

1309
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,160
It's a deep intimate place with 
the Lord. 

1310
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:42,200
It's deep inside. 
That's where the victory starts.

1311
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:48,720
And if you nurture that, 
nothing, nothing will hold you 

1312
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,960
back. 
You will live in victory in 

1313
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,960
every moment of your day, even 
when it doesn't look like it. 

1314
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,800
You will know because your 
identity is victory. 

1315
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,840
Period. 
That's what it is. 

1316
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,080
So it doesn't matter what it 
looks like out here. 

1317
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,520
You're showing up on the top 
because you seated in heavenly 

1318
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,680
places in Christ Jesus. 
This is an identity issue, and 

1319
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:15,640
as much as we rightly talk about
the execution of our identity 

1320
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:20,640
and how that plugs in to the 
world, it is it ultimately your 

1321
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:25,560
purpose is to express the 
marriage between your being and 

1322
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,200
the being of Christ into the 
earth in everything you do. 

1323
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,840
It doesn't matter if you're 
folding the laundry or you're 

1324
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,880
preaching A sermon or you're 
writing prayers that shake 

1325
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,680
heaven and earth or you're 
connecting dots for 15 years so 

1326
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,160
people can start to understand 
the false reality overlay, all 

1327
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,080
those things that we're talking 
about. 

1328
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,240
Who is sitting on this panel 
right now? 

1329
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:53,080
It is less about the formulas 
that that they are presenting 

1330
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,520
through the hardships of their 
life. 

1331
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,800
And it's about showing up in the
truth of of the intersection 

1332
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,840
between Christ and who you are 
in everything. 

1333
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,600
It's authenticity, it's honesty,
it's rawness, it's realness. 

1334
01:28:07,480 --> 01:28:14,200
It's the truth that cannot be 
dampened, period. 

1335
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:20,120
Because it's literally on fire. 
So stand in your victory and 

1336
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:26,960
walk forward knowing that you 
are exactly who he needs right 

1337
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,840
now. 
You already are. 

1338
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:33,160
You're not broken. 
You're not broken. 

1339
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,360
You have everything you need in 
you. 

1340
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,960
And that is the truth that needs
to be wrestled with. 

1341
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,840
And the places inside your, and 
I'll finish with this, the 

1342
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:44,320
places inside yourself where 
there's doubt, that's a holy 

1343
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,440
place the Lord is waiting for 
you inside of to reconcile the 

1344
01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:51,720
truth to your heart realm. 
He's sitting there waiting for 

1345
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,400
you. 
Open the door and walk in and 

1346
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,880
Sup with him, as Dan has said so
many times, because in that 

1347
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,800
place the truth will be born 
into this realm. 

1348
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,440
And that's so important. 
So thank you all so much. 

1349
01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:08,960
It has been such a blessing of a
conversation, and I pray it goes

1350
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,520
far and wide and touches all the
lives and all of the cosmos that

1351
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,120
needs to hear it. 
Because you're right, this 

1352
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,680
isn't, this is not just about 
people. 

1353
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,560
This is about reconciling the 
cosmos to the Creator. 

1354
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:24,240
Every aspect of creation is 
crying out for reconciliation. 

1355
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,880
Amen. 
And how great is it when we do 

1356
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,040
that together in unity with one 
mind? 

1357
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,160
So Dan, I want to pass it to you
and just say, you know, plug in 

1358
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:43,280
where you can be found and give 
your recommendations for the 

1359
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:48,160
audience who have taken this 
emotional and powerful roller 

1360
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:52,240
coaster ride with us. 
Ridemovement.com, that's our 

1361
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,040
ministry website. danduvall.com 
you can find our podcast. 

1362
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,120
We have a lot of resources that 
you can navigate, including all 

1363
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,320
of our ministers at Service 
Coaches, a free deliverance 

1364
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:08,560
portal, prayer resources, a 
whole school, etcetera. 

1365
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:17,240
We do also, you know, I mean 
absolutely press the foundation 

1366
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:23,240
and the basics like the Word of 
God, prayer time, fasting. 

1367
01:30:24,440 --> 01:30:29,760
There are certain spiritual, 
foundational things that 

1368
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:34,880
everybody needs in their life if
they're going to ascend to the 

1369
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,040
higher calling in Christ, that 
that deals with some of the 

1370
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,680
things that I was speaking to 
earlier. 

1371
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,960
And if you don't know where to 
start, start there. 

1372
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:48,640
Amen. 
Amen. 

1373
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,200
And Baz, same thing for you 
brother, plug in where you can 

1374
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:57,560
be found tying, tying a quick 
loose ends that you might have. 

1375
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,120
Yeah, absolutely. 
Well, we have a couple of 

1376
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:04,280
different things going on at the
same time, which is always 

1377
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,880
confusing. 
But we have Canary Cry Radio, 

1378
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,680
which is, you know, you'll find 
a collection of a decade or more

1379
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:15,560
opportunities of diving into the
sort of foundational research 

1380
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:19,000
that has become so popular 
nowadays across the board. 

1381
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:24,080
We just recently had the 
opportunity to speak with Zoltan

1382
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:27,720
Estevan, who is a fellow we've 
been tracking for quite some 

1383
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,560
time. 
He is a transhumanist. 

1384
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,520
He started the Transhumanist 
Party, technology transhumanism.

1385
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:40,120
This is obviously another one of
those things that was so fringe 

1386
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:43,880
and weird to talk about, 
especially through a biblical 

1387
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,080
lens. 
And it is very much a biblical 

1388
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:50,280
and prophetic tough topic that 
has so much to do with with 

1389
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:55,520
everything. 
And we got a chance to sit down 

1390
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,800
with him after many years of 
following his story there. 

1391
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:03,800
So you can hear that most recent
conversation with him at Canary 

1392
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,280
Cry Radio. 
We're on YouTube and places like

1393
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,360
that. 
But I always point people 

1394
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,680
towards the podcast version 
that, you know, whatever your 

1395
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:16,360
favorite podcast player on, just
search Canary Cry Radio and 

1396
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,720
Canary Cry News Talk. 
I know we should have chosen 

1397
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,560
much different names because 
people get them mixed up a lot. 

1398
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,160
They are two different shows can
hear Craig news talk is where 

1399
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,240
you can get a couple times a 
week. 

1400
01:32:28,440 --> 01:32:32,040
We are just diving into the 
current events, trying to bring 

1401
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:36,200
sanity, trying to be bring the 
biblical perspective and keep 

1402
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,240
everything rooted in Christ and 
what our daily practical 

1403
01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:43,360
response to the madness is. 
Because remember, the media is 

1404
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,720
not just the news. 
It's not it, it is the control 

1405
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:50,080
mechanism. 
It is the illusory magicians who

1406
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:54,800
are controlling language, 
controlling stories, not for, 

1407
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,600
you know, for anything else, but
to control our perception of 

1408
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,160
reality. 
And if we can't trust our 

1409
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:06,520
perception of reality, that 
causes a lot of problems, as I'm

1410
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,840
sure many people here can attest
to. 

1411
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,360
So, you know, it's really a, a 
family affair. 

1412
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:17,960
We've got a great community and 
we encourage everybody not to 

1413
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,120
just treat it as a, you know, 
just another podcast or news 

1414
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:25,040
source, but really consider it a
a family of believers who can 

1415
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:33,040
find each other and do our best 
to make it through that unreal 

1416
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,800
reality that's being sort of 
forced on us all the time. 

1417
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,040
And again, you can find us on 
YouTube and Rumble and stuff. 

1418
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,240
But of course, the podcast 
version is my personal 

1419
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,680
recommendation. 
And it really is meant to be, as

1420
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:53,760
you know, this this far along in
the movements, the sort of 

1421
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:59,720
fringy, prophetic biblical lens 
to try to see past the illusion.

1422
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,960
You know, this is a movement 
with a long history. 

1423
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:10,520
And it is one that is primarily 
focused, I believe, on trying 

1424
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:15,400
our best to get back to the 
objective reality of creation as

1425
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:20,960
as God intended us to be living 
in, to be walking in like Adam 

1426
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:27,560
in the garden and keeping that 
focus every day is, is a very 

1427
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:31,600
encouraging and a very 
motivating thing to wake up to. 

1428
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,440
So encourage everybody to do 
that. 

1429
01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:39,320
And thank God that my voice 
seemed to have somehow made it 

1430
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,760
to the end of the episode. 
So praise God for that too. 

1431
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,040
I think you sound better here at
the end than than right out the 

1432
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,640
RIP man. 
So praise God for both of you. 

1433
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:55,160
Dan Broad Ministries Basil and 
Canary Cry Carly excellent Co 

1434
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,320
host on this one. 
You had great questions, great 

1435
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:58,760
insights. 
I'm going to close this out 

1436
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:03,120
reading a quick piece of 
scripture for you. 

1437
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:08,000
O God have heard my vowels. 
You have given me the heritage 

1438
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:12,640
of those who fear your name. 
You will prolong the King's 

1439
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,320
life, his years, as many 
generations. 

1440
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,840
He shall abide before God 
forever. 

1441
01:35:18,440 --> 01:35:21,920
O prepare mercy and truth, which
may preserve him. 

1442
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:27,400
So I will sing praise to your 
name forever, that I may daily 

1443
01:35:27,480 --> 01:35:32,920
perform my vows. 
Psalm 61, five through 8. 

1444
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:34,720
Well, that's it. 
That's the show. 

1445
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:38,040
You guys, you know the deal. 
Share this one far and wide. 

1446
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,560
It helps us find one more person
just like me and you. 

1447
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,440
And honestly, it's just the 
right thing to do Bye. 

1448
01:36:11,550 --> 01:36:13,990
I trusted in your word many 
troubled nights. 

1449
01:36:14,630 --> 01:36:16,950
All that darkness thought I lost
my sight. 

1450
01:36:17,470 --> 01:36:19,790
The devil shooting shots, trying
to end my life. 

1451
01:36:20,150 --> 01:36:22,790
But I'm covered by the blood, so
I'm going to be all right. 

1452
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,320
I'm down one, but I'm up to. 
I've been down once. 

1453
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,640
But his Love's true. 
I'm seeking this face, feeling 

1454
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,920
the grace. 
I'm running this race for 

1455
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,000
eternity. 
Space. 

1456
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,600
I need more love. 
Less tears, no more drugs, less 

1457
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,000
fears. 
The stress reel detached it. 

1458
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,720
I'm washing over everything up 
in my mind. 

1459
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:44,760
Pummel the devil. 
How's this feel you? 

1460
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:48,560
Out of time. 
Look, God, you said, you never 

1461
01:36:48,560 --> 01:37:07,280
leave me. 
'Cause my baby pictures, they 

1462
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,200
got me crying like I'm dissing 
the devil and I'm praying just 

1463
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,240
real hard in the spirit. 
I'm really feeling the Holy 

1464
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,640
Spirit is coming near me. 
I'm like Lord God, be the way, 

1465
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,680
the truth, the life, don't ever 
leave me. 

1466
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,600
Jesus Christ, I really need you 
tonight. 

1467
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,920
I'm like, Lord God, you put it 
on my heart. 

1468
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:27,400
You're moving in and through me 
and you're erasing all the dark.

1469
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,320
You're the way. 
You're the truth. 

1470
01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:35,600
You're the lie. 
Lord God, you said you never 

1471
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,160
leave me. 
Lord God, you said, you'll 

1472
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,520
always. 
See me through, you'll always 

1473
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:46,960
see me through. 
Lord God, you said you'll. 

1474
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,280
Never leave me. 
Lord God, you said you'll always

1475
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:51,560
see me. 
Through. 

1476
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:57,760
You'll always see me through. 
Yeah, you justified the 

1477
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,840
sentence. 
Me, I pray you don't prepare me.

1478
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,640
Times I remember. 
And think about the penalty. 

1479
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,840
Desires of the heart brought 
rebellion, causing enmity. 

1480
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,560
Lord, you know the truth here. 
Despite who we pretend to be. 

1481
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,520
I'm giving you the enemy. 
This is what it looked like. 

1482
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,600
And This is why I took Christ, 
the one who made a crook life. 

1483
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,760
Forgive me for my idol words. 
Every word. 

1484
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:18,960
I took life sometimes. 
I should have stayed here. 

1485
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,880
For every step I took life. 
My God ain't desert me. 

1486
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,640
Capsized and mercy. 
Baptized and mercy. 

1487
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,440
Yeah. 
I should have died from 

1488
01:38:26,480 --> 01:38:30,040
backsliding, curses, trapped, 
dies and hurses and capsized. 

1489
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:35,200
My purpose here, Lord God, you 
said you never leave me. 

1490
01:38:35,480 --> 01:38:38,600
Lord God, you said, you'll 
always see me through. 

1491
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:46,280
You'll always see me through. 
Lord God, you said you never 

1492
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,200
leave me. 
Lord God, you said you'll always

1493
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:53,080
see me through. 
You'll always see me through.

