Hello folks, this is Princess. You are listening to the
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friends. That's tough.
We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
right now is a great benefit and virtue because it's an end
around between this whole corrupt informational system,
media system. We claim to believe in a God who
spoke the universe into existence and literally raised
himself from the dead, and yet we are not going to believe that
anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though His
word tells us that they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
to heaven. So they wander the earth.
You know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues
being spoken. These giants would live way up
in the Highland. The young Braves, the young men
would hide up in the. Trees and wait for.
One of these 12 footers to come walking.
Down the path and. They would jump on them and kill
them. Drag them back to the village,
and the village would feast on the body freedom.
Then people start to get weapons, they start to get
armor, they start to build cities, they start to fortify
their cities. Now God looks.
Down and there's violence everywhere.
The battle, this war that we are at is not against each other.
It's against these principalities and these rulers
and these archons in the high places.
It's really worthwhile to read the Bible yourself.
Fear. Is one of the primary drivers of
mind. Control.
Because we have to. Take every thought captive and
resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
that is a justice case against the Kingdom of darkness.
Music. Welcome back to the MMSI Am,
your producer, creator and part time host Rod Smith.
This may be one of the most epic broadcasts I've been a part of
to date. I don't say that lightly.
I'm joined by the one and only Dan Duvall, founder of Bride
Ministers International and host of Discovering Truth with Dan
Duvall. I'm also joined by Basil
Rosebaugh, Co founder of Canary Cry Radio and Canary Cry News
Talk, as well as my Co host for this episode, Carly.
And it's humbling to be a part of such a explosive
conversation. Revelatory.
I mean, we get some of the back story of the early days from Dan
and Basil. The last time they were on air
together was over 10 years ago. And somehow I've been able to
facilitate this conversation, reuniting old friends on air.
It's just it's, it's unbelievably cool.
We talk about the Veil, warfare, reality, the Revival hidden in
the Fringe, and so much more. You guys.
Here's just a couple of topics covered.
Our list out. The Veil is tearing Revival
through the destruction of the false reality overlay.
The rise of Heaven's armies, Survivors of SRA becoming
frontline warriors. Reprogramming, deprogramming the
Ekklesia from MK Ultra to Kingdom Awakened.
News as sorcery media as a control grid and the Canary Cry
Kingdom counter attack, mapping the fringe to foundation.
How prophetic podcasts seeded the revival that we're seeing
happen now, you guys, I'm going to read just a couple quotes
that get quoted on this Round Table episode.
Revival isn't coming. It's already here, but it's not
inside the walls. It's in the broken places of
your soul. I say that Rod Smith, We're not
reacting anymore. We're executing the judgments of
God in earth, Carly says. The most powerful force on earth
is the agreement of God's people with his Word, and we're just
getting started, says Dan Duvall.
Without Christ as the new veil, the tearing would have destroyed
us, but now we're magnetized to the Father, says Basil
Rosewater. Such a fascinating get together.
I really hope you guys enjoy this.
This is legendary to say the least.
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I think it's about time to jump into this episode.
I'm ready. Are you guys ready?
Let's go. Let's go.
Razzle Dazzle. I'm your best buddy Basil from
Canary Cry Radio and Canary Cry News Talk.
And I'm Dan Duvall, welcome to the Millennial Mustard Seed
Podcast. It is so epic to be here with
all four of you because I'm joined once again by Carly, my
Co host for this episode and I just have a lot of respect and
honor for both of these men. Dan Duvall from Bride Ministries
and he also has Discovering Truth, his podcast series and
Basil OG from Canary Cry Radio and Canary Cry News Talk and you
guys are old friends. So I'm just going to kind of
step out of the way and just I think it was over 10 years ago
was the last time you guys were on air together.
It is epic to witness this regathering.
Welcome, gentlemen. Yeah, it's great to be here.
Great to see you, Dan. And like we were just saying
before we are recording and of course, you know, we want to get
the real mushy stuff out before the recording.
But you know, it's very encouraging because often times
Ganz and I, we question why are we still doing this?
What are we, are we wrong? Are we missing something?
Have should we have stopped a long time ago?
And then to see guys like you who we really, at least from my
perspective, at least from what I know, we are coming up around
the same time, at a time when the world was completely
different and what we were doing was not considered a national
security threat, which was, you know, the good old days.
Right, Yeah. You know, I, I remember we, we
met actually, I, I have actually seen Basil's face.
I don't know, is that old school?
Because we, we met at a, a conference called The World
Turned Upside Down. And that was as I was going
through a major transition in my life and, and ministry.
I actually just gotten fired essentially, you know, from
another radio thing that I was doing at the time.
And, and, and I was gracious enough, like the people that
were putting together were gracious enough to invite me.
And it was like a whole new world opened up.
And I don't even know that I had relaunched discovering truth
with Dan DePaul. This was this was wow, I mean
over a decade ago now. Then again, bat basil and gowns
in person. We, we were hanging out with the
Hagman's and unfortunately Joe the son, he, I mean, he passed
away since that, this, this, I knew him when there were
podcasts that were live that like, you know, I mean,
everything has changed. Yeah, yeah, it was a totally
different world. So there you go.
But no, we haven't been in touch.
Now we just secretly watch each other from across the gym.
I will say at the top here, people who have heard me before,
you will notice this is not my regular voice.
It's a little rough this morning and just know that it's not
because I'm sick and fighting off some sort of nanobot attack
from the CIA. It's it's a very fancy voice
changer that helps resist AI powered geolocation through the
sound waves of your voice. So we'll see how long it can go
for. But I'm in, I'm in, I'm here,
we're charging it. And if my voice does go out,
that'll just be a good, I don't know, trigger for everybody to
just start praying for me because that means they're
coming for me. They found me.
Yeah, it's so interesting that last night you you kind of
texted me or I texted you, I'm sorry.
And and your response was, hey, as long as I have a voice, I'll
be there tomorrow. But like kind of came out of
left field, right? And so man, Father, just be with
Basil and give him the words to say anoint his tongue that he
should speak that which is you're bringing down from
heaven, Father. And if he can't speak much, then
we're just going to agree that what you have given him as the
perfect amount, the perfect measure.
Yeah. Dude, you're a trooper for
showing up like you, you want guns do so much and and you
know, multiple broadcasts a week.
You're doing the clubhouse, the live call insurance, you know,
and getting the interaction with guests that are that are
listening from out there. And so you're using your voice
quite a lot. Thank you.
I mean, I, this literally started happening on air about
two hours into yesterday's show and it just kind of totally gave
out. But I will say, you know, God is
sovereign and everything happens for a reason.
I'm it is, I don't even say it humor humorously.
It's probably happening because the Holy Spirit, you know,
wanted me to listen a little bit more in this conversation than
to speak. So I'm going to be working on
that. Yeah, Oprah is God.
I mean, with, with having Dan here, Dan, I just kind of want
to set it off with you talked a little bit about these, these
older days, right, reminiscing almost going back.
Do you want to talk a bit about timeline and then maybe a couple
things that bring you to present like that could be encouraging
to guys like I don't know me who are 5-6 years into trying to
maintain the calling and walk it out because you guys have been
doing this for so long. And then let's get into some
relevant things that that are happening right now that we need
to be aware of as the body of Christ.
I don't know how you feel about that, but maybe.
Well, I'm going to give you a little known fact.
Gods actually put together the covers for two of my books,
Kingdom Government and the Promise of Sheep Nations and
Higher dimensions, parallel Dimensions in the spirit realm.
I actually roped them into that somehow.
And so I think actually that probably is the last thing we
communicated on was when he was doing the the cover work for
higher dimensions, parallel dimensions in the spirit world.
So, you know, I mean, timeline wise, I think we have very
different views of timeline. If if Basil wants to get into
this, because my timeline, it took me through a lot of
different areas of Christianity. We and we kind of ended up as
bride ministries kind of on our own little realm because the
work that I was focused on was centered on survivors of satanic
ritual abuse and, and, and the government projects.
And so I began as a researcher. And you know, Gonzo's a
researcher, Basil's a researcher, the Hagmanns were
researcher, Steve Quayle was a researcher.
Like, you know, and there's other characters that were part
of the, the conference that we met at subsequent events.
You know, I, I had some overlap with Doug HAMP.
I had some overlap with Rob Skiba.
Rob Skiba has since passed away. And, you know, I think a lot of
that those connections were centered on the Nephilim and
trying to explore that and how that affects our view of Bible
prophecy in light of current events.
And, and, and, you know, there was this acknowledgement almost
like a tip of the hat to the secret programs as an MK Ultra.
And how did those projects weave into all of these things?
And, you know, I mean, we were all terrified that Obama might
be the Antichrist, like guilt because, you know, we were when
we met, he was, you know, in his second term.
And it's just like, is he going to blow up the world?
Who knows? Because I knew several people
that thought he would. And anyway, so it was a
different time. You know, before 2012, people
didn't even like anywhere I went, people were like Nephilim,
you know, like you are a heretic for even suggesting that that's
not just the sons of Cain that are normal people marrying the
daughters of Seth that are normal people and having normal
kids that just have a sin problem.
And, you know, there was a lot of agreement on like, well, we
got to break that now. That sounds like such an
ancient, like, why would we waste our time arguing that
point? Like, who even cares?
And we all agree like the Nephilim or giants, like tell us
what's next, you know, tell us about the AI.
Why are you wasting dance time talking about like what we could
get in there? I'm just kidding.
So, you know, But you know, from that point, I, I know that for
me, we got pulled so deep into helping survivors that that just
became our focus. And then, you know, I had to
build a church and then we, we had to build a school and then
we had to start training people. You know, I've trained over 60
people to do the deliverance work and inner healing work that
I did. So we became specialists in that
vein. And as far as formal research, a
lot of my research came in response to the things that I
was learning on the front lines of helping people.
And that focus just went that direction.
So I don't know I I'm actually interested to hear what Basil's
journey's been like. Yeah, no, actually that's thank
you for telling me that. That's very interesting.
I mention it so often and I don't know if people are just
tired of hearing it or if it even matters.
But you know, it's weird to be so long in a space or an
industry that like you are the old fogey who can remember when.
Yeah, focusing on Nephilim and kind of these weird things.
It was wasn't just a normal, I mean, at this point mainstream
talking point. Like it's weird.
The the online podcast video thing now is you talk about
something, you're you're probably not the first person to
talk about it at all. You know, if you want to hear
about Nephilim, you know, there's a hundred different
communities with 1000 different podcasters and within this sort
of ranked hierarchy of bigness, you know, coming all the way
down. But when we started 2012, I
mean, we had the end of the Mayan calendar, end of the
world. We had the you know, everybody
thought aliens were going to be coming out during the Olympic
halftime show. Yeah, Obama, you know, it, it
was really this time where I think the the majority of I got,
I guess the foundation was being laid there on that and for
myself, guns, Dan, I mean, go to Derek Gilbert, Sharon Gilbert,
like you said, Dan, Doug HAMP, Rob Skiba.
It was really just one core group.
There was nobody, like, at least on the Internet, making content
available in this new weird thing called podcasting that's
there forever and you can share with your friends.
Like even the technology itself was just new.
You had to tell people you did Internet radio.
Nobody knew what a podcast was. And, you know, I look back, I
was really young at the time and I think I really took for
granted that I was surrounded with people who are doing really
good work. And we had a, a growing core
listenership, many of whom are still with us today.
You know, children have been raised on my voice, you know,
over the last 10 years, 12 years.
And I look back, I'm like, man, I was really young.
If I knew what I know today, I would have taken it so much more
seriously. I would have, you know, because
I was in my early 20s and I was just trying to, you know, figure
life out and doing podcasts and, and diving in in this research
was a very strange thing for somebody my age to be doing
Canary Cry Radio, our primary show that really is responsible
for everything. It only has 180 something
episodes. You know, we would go like
months without putting out an episode.
And there was no, there was not this whole ecosystem of people
creating this content that we could go a month, two months
without putting out an episode and people would be back.
You know, would, would, would love it.
You know, they would be waiting for it.
They would appreciate it. They would be because there
wasn't so much more out there. Knowing what I know now, I
probably would have buckled in and gotten serious a little bit
earlier. But similar to how you're you,
you kind of focused in on your work in the ministry, which you
know, again, I think that's it's incredible.
And essentially anybody, I think from our generation at that
point ended up kind of focusing in on whatever their thing was.
For us, it was around 2016 and we came to this place like, OK,
we've, we were some of the first podcasters that the Flat Earth
people came to. And, you know, even it was weird
for us. Even it's weird to imagine a
time that Flat Earth wasn't like a very common weird thing for
people to be super into. But we were one of the first
podcast to just kind of be like, huh, weird.
Some people actually think the Earth is flat.
Let's see what they have to say. And so we had collected this
broad range of really fringe, fringe research.
And in 2015 or 16, that's when we.
Thought, you know, this is all good and fun and wild and you
know, we're, we're so happy to see where God has brought this.
But then we started news talk because we're like, all right,
what is the practical purpose of knowing all this stuff?
Like what does that mean? Is it just entertainment?
Is it just a, a weird club to be in?
What does this have to do, you know, really with any practical,
you know, practical application in our lives?
And that's when we started taking the news of the day and
putting it through this lens that we had developed over at
that point, you know, 4-5 years and focusing in on, hey, our
work now is going to be finding together and applying this
knowledge base that, you know, people continue to get
interested in. But what does it have to do with
our daily lives? How do we go through our day?
How does it affect our faith? How's it how does it affect our,
you know, interaction with the economy or interaction with
politics? And so it really in a way, it
was just a way for us to apply this weird fringe, you know,
knowledge base and personal relationships with great
researchers like Dan. And what does that mean for us
on a daily basis? How has this changed our
perception as we just walk around, go to work and do stuff
like that? And so news talk sort of just
develops from there. And of course, moving to the
long, you know, the Super long format three times a week at
COVID just because we had the time.
And that's just kind of what transformed our community into
what it is today. And so I kind of consider that,
you know, the Lord you, I kind of imagine it like the Lord had
a magnifying glass on us, you know, watching and observing and
and blessing us in so many ways. But then 2020, when we started
really doing what we do now, he had sort of maybe adjusted the
magnifying glass and suddenly there was a beam of light that
was like striking us that really, I guess literally or
metaphorically really lit a fire under us to take it to, you
know, this is this. Shouldn't, you know, this
worldview, this collection of, of, of, I don't know, weird
explorations of life in the Bible and faith and history and
the things in the shadows going on today, you know, really
should have some sort of applicable, I don't know, angle
to it. And so that's, you know, when it
really was around there that we calmed it down a little bit on
the interviews. If I could go back, I probably
wouldn't have calmed down on the interviews and we would have
been talking with Dan Duvall, you know, at least a couple
times a year because at the same time, you know, he's doing very
important work. So that's a little bit of
history, I guess. Thanks for the opportunity to
kind of speak through that, that history in in a time and place
that I'm allowed to instead of me trying to slip it in to a
broadcast or something when it has no applicable value at all.
So thank you for that opportunity, Ron.
Absolutely. Well, you guys are uncovering
what you have now coined Dan as the false reality overlay back
in 2012, 2013. It's like we were it was being
mapped without us knowing it, right?
We were starting to see how what we always subscribed reality to
was in fact a simulation, for lack of a better word.
And Baz, where you went into talking about it and unpacking
it and having these conversations that were fringe
but then became normal. You said, where's the practical
application of this? That that was a question in your
head. And then I'm looking over at Dan
like, but that was Dan was doing the practical application of
this in your ministry, which is taking people out of the false
reality overlay and subscribing them back.
Their humanity, their purpose, their essence, their scroll,
their timeline, all those things.
Because the reason why that false reality overlay keeps
working is because of how much humanity is hinged into it.
Like a super pattery pack just powering up the Kingdom of
darkness. And Dan's over here like, we're
not doing that anymore. And that's what the Holy Spirit
came in. And that is the practical
application. And I really don't see them as
very different, right? It's like you, you have a map
and then you, you follow the map and you apply it to what you're
doing. And that's the relationship that
I'm seeing between the two of you, which is so profound.
And only God, one wise God, could draw this connection,
follow this red thread through time and space and people and
jurisdictions and all these things to make something so
powerful as the restoration of humanity to his original
intention. The understanding that's
required for that, the application, the wisdom, the
prayer, the language, the spiritual mechanics is just it's
life changing, it's globally changing.
It's cosmically revolutionary. Wow.
It's good. It's just such a beautiful thing
to see how the Lord weaves us together.
Well, when we zoom out, that's exactly what's happening and
that's what I was moved to with this opportunity because I have
so much respect and just love for both of your content, Dan
and Basil and and shout out to Dan.
So hopefully we get locked in with him here here soon to kind
of come in and dovetail a little bit of it organically with
capturing growth journeys and and asking serious questions.
Like I tell people, I don't take this lightly, like this isn't
just something fun for me. I've done this in the gutter
through hardship deprivations, through literally some really
rough things that I won't talk about detail wise that has tried
to hinder me from even having the opportunity to sit before
two people that I honor and and see that reconnection come.
There's a cost, but there's also a beauty in starting to see how
God is using a a multi layered reality of his intention.
You've been sent in with a purpose and we just get little
glimmers at seeing how there's this interconnectivity that's
encouraging the crossroads of of now are just as important as
they were 10 years ago to what's going to be birthed in the next
phase of what God has up his sleeve.
So Dan, I want to ask with everything that's going on right
now, with everything that you've discovered over the course of
your journey and what God, the wheelhouse he has you in.
What is the most important thing for us to be focusing and
getting a hold of as a body, not just as a podcaster, as a a
ministry, but like as the body of Christ.
Let let's open up some some deep understandings here please.
The most important thing, well, look, I I think that's in in
some ways that's an easy question.
In some ways that's a really hard, laborious, taxing and deep
question to answer. So the easy side for such a time
as this, I don't think God made an accident in sending the
generation that's alive on earth today and serving him.
I, I, I, I think there was a lot of intent around those that he
sent in and the, IT, it like it's about him and it's about
his Kingdom. You know, it's a big, big shift
when you realize that the Bible, it actually isn't all about man.
It's actually all about Christ that, you know, and we, I think
that when we make Christianity all about man, we, we actually
get confused as to what the meta narrative is.
It's all about Christ. It's all about Jesus and someday
that he is accomplishing through man on behalf of his creation.
And so the way that I look at it, that that's where we're at
right now. We are at possibly one of the
most important generations to walk the earth since the time of
Christ. You know, you have the people
that the church age began with and then we're sitting at the
Nexus point of I think the end of the age.
I, I, I think that, you know, most people can look at the
direction of everything that's happening and say, wow, this is
for, for so many reasons. And, and I think one of the big
ones is the artificial intelligence conversation.
I think the artificial intelligence conversation
actually puts us, really, really, truly locks us in to a
timeline at, at this juncture. But you know, then we could add
on top of that the Jesuit agenda and the underground military
base agenda and all of the connections through these
crypto, these creatures that like all of this invasion of our
reality, so to speak, like at, at, at ever exacerbated
quantities. Now it, it, it points to
something that is very significant for their for, for
world history. I, I mean, and, and I, I think
it's pointing towards the end of the age.
So, so the generation is carrying this torch was I think
selected and our primary is to look to Jesus for our purpose at
this time. Yeah, Amen.
You really touched on something that I was just recently going
on about. I think it was yesterday on
Clubhouse and before that, you know getting some time to rant
on Rod's show as well. This been doing some extra air
time has really been developing my own emphasis on the important
syllables. And Gans did a mini documentary
on Jesus as the veil yesterday. And so we talked a lot about the
veil and veils and what this means and how applicable this is
sort of across the board. And when I look at what's
happening in the world as a whole, not just in current
events but in people, when you tell the story of the
crucifixion of Christ, the story's told.
He's nailed to the cross, He's stabbed with a spear and raises
3 days later. And what is not usually told in
that, you know, in that telling of the gospel is he's stabbed
with a spear, He gives up his spirit, dead people come to
life, earthquake happens, the veil is torn in the temple.
And you know, it's it kind of seems often, I think as just
sort of supernatural details that are kind of skipped over
for the emphasis on salvation. And whatever gets you to
salvation is great. Not criticizing that, but
happening in the exact same moment as the contract shifting,
paradigm shifting events in the history of man's relationship
with the eternal God as Christ dies on the cross.
The veil also tears. I think in a way what we're also
seeing right now, what I could, what I see when I look at the
broad population level movements and trends that are going on is
there is another veil sort of tearing on mass population
level. People are waking up to the
loosery overlay of what they once thought was reality.
These sort of unimaginable control over their perception of
reality so deep and so perfected that the idea that what they're,
you know, hearing on the news or or whatever, they're down to the
very words that are controlled, the language that's controlled,
that dictates the way that their brain even, you know, reads
colors in the world. There's this veil tearing in
another way, and much like back at the crucifixion of Christ,
that veil tearing wasn't just crazy supernatural event because
the veil was 4 inches thick and nobody could have torn it.
So it was a show of God, but it was also the destruction of
humanity's observation of what was real at the time.
It was the destruction of their entire mind's model of what
reality was. Meaning there's the holies of
holies, and God is in there, and we're out here and we can't go
past the veil because that is where God is.
And the veil is also protecting us from the overwhelming, you
know, destructive power of the creator of the universe.
So this veil not only is separating God from man, but the
veil is also protecting man from God.
But the veil is also protecting man from God.
And this was reality at the time this everybody would have known
this everybody would have based their entire understanding of
the universe on this fact. And when the veil tears and
suddenly there's no separation between what they, you know,
they, they before the veil tears, you know, they're
basically imagining Indiana Jones in the Ark of the
Covenant, like level face melting, God's power rushing
into humanity and, you know, humans not able to handle it and
this sort of thing. But when the veil tears,
suddenly I think, OK, that's a pretty drastic event.
And not only is that, you know, I mean, talk about a bunch of
dead people getting up and walking around at the same time,
this is an absolute reality shattering event for humanity at
the time. And in the same way we have a
reality shattering event going on right now on some level,
which is everybody is now aware. I'm saying everybody has a
generalization. There are those who are not
aware. And that's very sad and
frustrating. But mass population is becoming
aware of like, oh, my very concept of reality has been
crafted by a bunch of establishment, you know,
magicians who control the words that I use, who control the
information that gets to me. Look at this.
I can list, you know, 100 points in history that I thought really
dictated what reality was around me, both from, you know, past
history all the way now to yesterday's current events that
didn't happen the way that I was told.
And you have this, you have this traumatic event going on, which
is more and more people going what even what, what is even is
real? What even is happening?
What even is, you know, I've been lied to in a way that I
used to make fun of people for insinuating those tinfoil
Hatters. And just like the the veil
tearing at Christ's crucifixion, the reason that humanity was not
destroyed by that was because Jesus and his death and his
sacrifice became the new veil in a way.
It became the mediating force between man and God, not only,
you know, giving us a portal and access to God in a way that
nobody had had before, but also a new sort of protective layer
between the raw, unfiltered cosmic majesty of the creator of
the universe and man. And that's, you know, if, who
knows if the veil would have torn before Jesus had taken that
role. Who knows would have happened.
Maybe that would have been the end of, you know, humanity.
We don't know. But if it weren't for Christ
taking that place at the exact moment, establishing,
establishing a new ground of understanding for reality, the
universe and everything, meaning our connection to God, our
connection to ultimate reality. Thank God we have this new thing
which is Christ, because the veil just tore and who knows
what would have happened. And so nowadays we have this
veil tearing people. People's understanding of
reality is totally getting thrown out the window.
And what we're seeing is a mass movement on a population level.
And we can criticize it and we can pick it apart and we can
find all the things we don't like about it.
But we are seeing an unprecedented movement towards
Christ, not just on, you know, Gen.
Z is the most traditional generation ever.
They're turning to religion. They're going to church.
And in numbers that no generation has ever seen.
You know, this whole thing you've got, I mean, the big one
recently was it just came out that Joe Rogan is regularly
attending church. And he's very consistent and
real about this, you know, this sort of social cultural power.
You could arguably say Joe Rogan has something like the most
powerful, you know, socio cultural position of anybody
else, maybe besides the president or something like
that. And for him, excuse me up here
we go. For him to be sort of publicly
moving in the direction of Christ, I think is a great
reflection. You know, he is famously
secular, famously not Christian in the past, also famously the
most popular guy who is trying to see beyond the veil, trying
to be skeptical about reality, these types of things.
And we're watching again that without some sort of.
I mean, without Christ, honestly, without Christ, when
the veil tears, it is so traumatic to an individual and
to a culture that they are forced to seek out the next.
I mean, not the next, but the primary ground of being, which
is our relationship with God mediated through Jesus Christ.
And so I think we're seeing this all the way down from the minute
level all the way to the mass population level.
As a millennial, I was always told always, I've been a
Christian my entire life, Every second of my life I have been,
you know, a Christian. And I was always told every
single week that the revival's coming, the revival's coming,
the revival's coming, it's going to change everything.
Mass movements towards Christ is going to be amazing.
And we are told that it was going to be millennials told, it
was going to be my generation. That didn't quite work out the
way that we were told. But it is Gen.
Z and we are seeing what I was told for my whole life, a mass
revival, huge movements of culture towards Christ and the
fact that it is sort of orbiting around this obsession that came
into my life. And, you know, 2010, 11/20/12
about being skeptical about the reality that we're being fed and
diving deeper into the weird, you know, crevices of what
reality is. What does it look like, you
know, all through a biblical lens?
It's it's it's a little bit traumatic to me now to see this
revival happening, at least by the numbers based around the
most unexpected cultural, I don't know, tweak that any of us
could have could have expected, which was this sort of to use
the word, you know, conspiracy theory, fringe skeptical sort of
lens leading people to Christ, but not just leading people to
Christ in sort of a general evangelical way.
It is people are now requiring Christ and naturally moving
towards their requirements because of the tearing of the
veil of what reality is and isn't.
Now that's been of course long time coming and I apologize
'cause I totally forgot what the question was, but that's kind of
what I'm seeing happen as far as the most.
I guess you asked about like what's the most important thing
happening? And I think the most important
thing that I see happening is as a result of the work of Dan and
Skiba and people who have been sort of relegated to the weird
corners, whatever spiritual ancestry that is descended as
far as ideas, spirits, principalities, powers with
which, you know, we, I don't, I don't feel, I think a lot of
guys in our ring don't feel like they've had a whole lot to do
with with what's going on in the world.
But I'm just encouraged that the biggest revival that I've ever
seen, and at least according to the numbers, is the biggest one
in many generations, happens to be coinciding or perhaps even
propelled by this passion to see past the illusion in a in a
biblical way. I completely agree with what
you're spelling out here, Baz. And when you were talking about
the veil, it was making me think about how the veil in the temple
was of separating force. But the veil that is Christ, as
you illustrated it, is a magnetizing force for the
Father, for life, for recovery, for reconciliation.
And and as you were talking about revival, it made me think
about how we are, we are in a revival.
The reason why it's so hard to identify is because it's not
happening inside the predictable metric bearing 4 walls of the
First Baptist Church on Main Street.
As Dan likes to say, it's because it's happening in the
broken places of our soul. But we realize the only way to
untangle ourselves from any of this is by being completely
naked before God and recognizing that He has no obligation to us
to fit inside our intellectual box.
None. And that's why revival is
happening, because people are coming to the point where
they're looking out at the world and they say, I cannot overcome
this by the faculties of my own creativity, by what is presented
to me in the evangelical Main St. mainstream Western
Christianity, corporate American church.
I can't. So what do I have?
I have Christ crucified. And just like you were saying,
Dan, that is the foundation of everything.
This isn't about us. It is to an extent, right.
But if we become self focused in these things, we end up making
religions. We end up making formulas.
We end up doing metrics in Church of how many people raise
their hand to receive Christ and go back to the same mess that
happened to them yesterday because there's no victory.
Why? Because there's no actual
relationship that's happening, and that is revival.
We are in a revival because there are countless people who
are sitting at the feet of Jesus day after day after day.
They don't care if anybody ever finds their name.
They don't care if they publish a book, they just want to be
seen and known by Him in the places that they had been afraid
to open the door to. And that, friends, is revival
because it's powering down the Kingdom of darkness by virtue of
our liberty, by the expression of Christ in US.
And it doesn't have a stage. And that's OK, because trust and
believe when this pot of righteousness boils over, the
whole world is going to know. It's going to know is not it.
The whole world is filled with this glory as the water covers
the sea. That's what's coming out of the
gate of humanity. Goodness gracious.
One of the things that has really been part of my my, my
piece is I got pulled out of the, the, the research world,
right? And, and God really stationed me
on the front lines of contending with the powers of darkness as a
job description. He's like, OK, you said yes to
this, yes to this, yes to this. Now, now, that's great what you
did. That's cute.
You know, you wrote a book about wounded by leadership.
We don't care about that. Like what we really care about
is what you were created to do, which is contend and, and, and
contend for What I'm realizing now is the Army, the, the Army
of God manifested through his people.
And a a lot of the, the people that are called to that army
and, and, and take up arms literally against the emergence
of Antichrist Kingdom are the survivors.
Like they, the ones that were recruited and already activated
as super soldiers, as slaves, as puppets are, are, are, are being
delivered out and then recruited and released into God's army to
be the ones that take down I, I mean, and, and take on some of
the greatest and most radical evil the surface world has ever
seen. So, so I got, I got plopped
right at the front line and it's like, you know, you got to
contend with all of this. And, and we did, I mean, you
know, we could, we could go into a lot of stories about that.
But part, part of my journey in that was, was, was visionary.
It's, you know, when I go into prayer time, the Lord will show
me things and, and it that helps me to fix my, my personal
spiritual compass to what Jesus is doing.
And one of those times I was in prayer and and I did I I saw it
was like this massive battlefield and there was a few
people standing on a hill and they were looking at it and it
was a hybrid army and they and they had anti gravity craft and
it was creatures. And I'm sure Bigfoot was in
there somewhere, maybe a few Yeti right dog man, I'll just
but but like, I think these were definite hybrid, like it was not
human. I was I was looking at this
army. I'm looking at this technology,
I'm looking at this weapon. It's like, OK, that was probably
built on Mars And it's like a dark clouds over moving on.
And these people that are sitting on a hill, they
essentially begin to go into prayer or decrees or whatever in
the name of Jesus. And then I'm like looking back
over at the, the whole army and the whole army is literally just
brought to its knees. They can't move, they can't
fight, they can't do a thing. And it's reminiscent of some of
the stories we see in the Bible where it's like God sent the
worshippers out first and then the enemy armies scatter.
God sent the Angel, the Lord out and he killed 10s of thousands
of men. Like they just died, you know,
and, and be like, but I'm seeing this and it's like, look, these
are the kinds of people I am raising up in the last days.
Like, like they think they're doing all this stuff.
They think they're building their hybrid army in the
underground bases. They think they have this, you
know, thing locked down because they got this secret space
program running and they, they're, they're going to bring
in all this stuff. And it's like they have no idea
the snare that God is setting up by bringing his army online.
And so, you know, part of my job became to create the pathway
because I'll tell you, coming out from a background of, of
super soldier programming, MK Ultra, satanic ritual abuse,
outright mind control, like it is hard.
It is hard to break with that kind of trauma and step into
full identity in Christ. I mean, it's like a, they think
on the Kingdom of darkness. It's impossible.
They, they thought they had perfected their, their approach
to this thing and there was no hope.
No one's going to figure this out.
Well, Jesus did. And he, he's been nugget
dropping this thing the whole time.
And we have seen, I mean, the most extraordinary
transformations over the years for, for, for thousands of
people. And it has been wrought with
opposition. I mean, every time I turn
around, they do the stupidest stuff.
I mean, if I told you some of this stuff they do to try to
shut us down or, or, or, or mess with ourselves, I mean, the, the
level of witchcraft targeting. And I, I, I mean, you know, not
everybody can say this, but I can.
Like I, I don't even, I don't even know how many infants have
been sacrificed on the altars of stop ride ministries, but many,
many have. And I, I wouldn't be surprised
to find out it's in the thousands at this point because
they, they, they have, you know, a major assignment against
stopping. It's not about me.
It's, it's about the army that God is liberating for such a
time and space. And you have listeners and they
know they're called in this army and they know they are put here
because God put something on the inside of it and says, you know,
beast Kingdom, I'm not here for it.
I am the resistance. So yeah, there, there it is.
Man, that is so good. Talk about multi layered
encouragement. Yeah, yeah, this is, it's still
blowing my mind to have you and Basil here at the same time.
And if I can backtrack a little bit for the sake of launching
even deeper into where we're heading, when you were talking
about what you had the the path that you were getting laid out,
right? You're being led by the spirit
and you're kind of laying out this track at the same time, you
see with Basil and Gonz, like synchronizing with what's going
on and adding in this, this layer of biblical filter to to
the masses through a news analysis, news breakdown, almost
like a Kingdom news agency. That was like the resistance to
the overwhelming messages out in the airwaves.
And now those two are kind of marrying in the moments of the
listeners across across the board here with not only did God
send in, you know, Basil and Gans with with a very specific
agenda in mind. Little did they know they would
they would stumble into what they were doing.
If you would have asked them that five years old, What do you
want to do when they grow up? They wouldn't have probably came
close to what they're doing now, but they are.
And now we're at a crossroad of listeners abroad who may need to
start walking in the the rank or the file of this heaven's army,
the army of volunteers that has been laid with a trajectory
heaven sent from what Dan has brought forward.
It's like here we are. It's like we're doing this
thing, you guys. I'm just going to pass it to
whoever feels led by the Spirit to continue because this is more
powerful than I than I had originally imagined.
I've said this a few times with you on Air Rod, and I say it
pretty much as often as I can, but I had a strange couple
years, pretty traumatic couple years.
And then moving in to 2025 just really was laden heavily by the
Holy Spirit and really some really unexplained.
I mean, if there's been moments in my life where I'm overcome by
a feeling that is sort of unexplainable, and then in the
supernatural way, you know, a lot of times when it comes to
Holy Spirit communications, it's if you're like me, sometimes it
doesn't make any sense until after the fact.
But when we transition into this 2025 year, first the year, but
also the start of the new presidency, also what seems to
be a transition in world powers, what seems to be a transition in
some sort of spiritual warfare, you know, principalities and
powers, you know, even going down to, you know, this shift in
the papacy of the Vatican to this, you know, everything seems
to be in this transitional period that we really don't have
a whole lot of foundation for or, you know, it's been a long
time. It's I have never lived through
a shift that can both be spotted in politics and culture, in the
principalities and powers, in the supernatural realm.
Just everything is we are sort of passing this point of where
experience can inform our reaction.
And when the clock struck midnight on 2025, I was just
over, I mean, really laden with this heaviness about the time
that we have. I can't say that it's, you know,
timing that we have until Jesus comes back or timing that we
have until I can't really pinpoint what it is.
But once the clock struck 12, I mean, the Holy Spirit was clear
as day that like 365 days from now, the world is going to be an
entirely different place. None of the assumptions that we
make about our world, about reality, from the trippy stuff
to the practical stuff, you know, our models, our models are
going to get less and less useful as we get closer to 2026.
And the reality is, at least what was impressed upon my heart
harder than I could, you know, describe was that, yeah, we
pretty much have about 365 days until think.
Everything is totally different. And for me, I know I went years
thinking or even knowing that I was supposed to be doing
something. Maybe I didn't know what it was.
Maybe I just felt like I had some sort of role to play.
Maybe I had some project or some ministry that seems like, oh,
that'd be a fun thing to do or that'd be a fulfilling thing to
do or whatever. But it got impressed upon my
heart and I cannot stop really saying it to as many people
public publicly as I can. Whatever it is that God's laid
on your heart, now is the time to do it.
It's right now because you're going to have a hard time even
figuring out what is going on in the world in the next 365 days.
You know if if you're your heart's desire for how to serve
the Lord, if your vision for a future or whatever that calling
is right now, it's based on how the world is right now that
informs everything about your your the way you think about
your calling. And now is just the time to
start doing it. And of course, for for a lot of
our people, for a lot of people in general, you know, that might
look like starting a podcast. It might look like, you know,
doing a sub stack or whatever. You know, everybody's got their
own thing. Maybe it's more boots on the
ground focus like Dan, you know, there's some calling, some
ministry that the Lord is equipping and calling you to.
Maybe it's just getting involved with something that already
you're passionate about. Maybe it's getting involved with
Millennial Mustard Seed. Maybe it's involved with
getting, you know, getting involved with a ministry in your
town, you know, but now is the time to do it.
Now is the time to reach out. Now is the time to start doing
that. The the enemy has laid many
snares. He's laid many snares
politically. He's laid many snares
economically. You know, the the uncertainty of
today's world is is by design. It's not an accident.
The entire battlefield is laden with booby traps.
And these booby traps, maybe they're not meant to kill, steal
and destroy every time. Maybe they're just there to turn
your attention. Maybe they're just there to make
you focus on some other concern, whether it's a worldly concern
or relational concern. I don't know what it is.
But the, you know, the enemy has had control of the battlefield
for a long time. And when things start to shift,
when things start to slip, when things start to change, it's
moments like this that those snares were constructed for.
So I don't know really what that means for any individual out
there certainly feel called the hammer at home as often as
possible that now is the time to do the thing, whatever the thing
was. If you don't even have a full
picture of it, just take the first step.
You know, you're you have a Lantern that shines just as far
to see the next stepping stone in the path that you're meant to
walk. And so even if you can only see
one step ahead, take a step. And if you don't know where the
whole path is going, that's OK. You know, God's God wouldn't
have you move in that direction if you didn't have a plan.
And don't, don't let uncertainty.
There's a lot of there's infinite amounts of things to be
uncertain about in the world today on the micro scale, on the
meta scale, on the macro scale. But uncertainty is what faith is
for. That is, you know, the the faith
is the answer, the weapon against uncertainty.
But uncertainty is a snare also. Dan, I want to ask you a
question that fits in with all of this.
Yep, As the wakening happens, how do you see an explosion of
God sending into Heaven's armies getting in alignment with this?
I mean, you speak about false reality overlay, you know, quite
frequently and that breaking down in that transition of kind
of coming out of these, these falsehoods.
Can you speak to the the, the things that may need to be heard
right now in regards to Heaven's armies coming in alignment and
cross pollinations of all these things starting to brew and
bubble over? What does your mind do with
that? OK, so there's a few layers on
this and this one question could be its own podcast in my
opinion, or a whole conference, because it's huge.
Yeah, I know it's, it's, it's really big, All right?
At least from where I sit. But I, I'm going to give you a,
a, a short list of some thoughts that I have on that.
So, so, so #1 and, and this is where I, I see a lot of things
starting, you know, I mean, I wrote my first book back in
2010, you know, there was a lot of a number of people that
really started talking about Nephilim and hybrids and
programming and Satanic ritual. There's a lot of crossover
between those worlds, by the way, because people that are the
Satanic ritual abuse survivors are the ones that are most
likely to have had encounters with the hybrids and the
entities, especially in the underground labs, etcetera.
But you know that, so that crossover is real, but you know,
to even talk about it puts a different frequency in the
atmosphere and it begins a conversation.
And even if that conversation is only happening between two
people's ears, that's a conversation that's happened,
that's a mind that's being or in the process of being unlocked.
So there's a whole aspect of that, this conversation that
happens with disclosure with a, a group of people that are not
afraid to have a conversation that breaks with the mainstream
narrative and that that begins a, a dismantling of the false
reality overlay. Now the false reality overlay,
the way that I see it is the reinforcement mechanism to
assure success for the manipulators of society.
Because like, like they say, you know who writes the history
books? The victors and the people that
have been winning a lot of the victories up until this time in
history have been the Illuminati, OK.
And, and, and it's, it's, it's been the Freemasons and these
groups. And so they, they get to write
the history books and tell us where we came from, who we are
and why we're here. Well, that's the fact.
And what we're realizing is almost all of our view of world
history, which has been given to us by organizations like the
Smithsonian and other things, is it utterly defiled.
And, and they're sitting on a lot of evidence to the contrary
of the narrative that's being put forward.
And so we, the reinforcement mechanism is, if you don't
believe this version of reality, which is false, we have this
whole military arm called the psychiatric community that'll
lock you up. Now you have to get enough buy
in on the reality of a false reality overlay from people that
are not lockable, like the people that can't be locked up
because they are professionals, they are smart, they are
degreed, they are sitting in seats of political influence
and, and, and Hollywood. And the more people that are
coming, it's like, no, actually, this is real.
This is truly, but it has to start with the grassroots
somewhere somehow. So shattering the false reality
overlay is, is one part of it the next layer to me or another
major layer is a deprogramming layer.
And this gets into the conversation on why I, I don't
think that revival was ever a reality until deprogramming
became part of the conversation. Why?
That's that's why you're reacting to that Rod.
Oh my gosh, why? Because there are a lot of
people that have been main players in mainstream
Christianity that have been either cult plants or just
manipulated by power brokers that sit behind the man.
They, they, they don't get to be the man of God.
They have to be the hireling of the Free Masonic Board that sits
over the church. So you have a whole generation
of people that have been trained and equipped.
And I'm going to put that in quotation marks by a oversight
in the body of Christ that's been tampered with and corrupted
a lot of leaders in the body of Christ.
Unfortunately, we're groomed for that position.
And it wasn't by Jesus. They were.
And it is what we found out when we got into the work.
It's like, so you have highly programmed individuals sitting
in pulpits, but because that's what's trusted by the people
that have the power and the money, that's also what gets
broadcast. So we are broadcast a version of
Christianity that has been groomed to present a version of
Christianity that doesn't challenge a false reality
overlay. So that's just one area.
But you have a whole generation of politicians that were groomed
and programmed to do politics not by Jesus Christ and his
convictions on their heart, but by actual satanic ritual abuse
and MK Ultra inspired programming protocols to groom
politicians to then be placed in roles.
And, and they get the money and they get the influence because
they have the backing by the power brokers who are writing
the history books. And I mean it.
It's just insane how far down the rabbit hole you end up when
you start really researching these things.
You realize, wait, the whole society has been essentially
hijacked from within. And, and so deprogramming has to
be part of revival. And, and I, I say we're moving
past revival because at this point in time, what I see is
revolution. Revival's for the church.
Revolution is for the world. I see that we are on a path to
that, But you can't take deprogramming out one of the
reasons why the body of Christ was so stuck.
It's like, why isn't God moving? Why is he doing more awesome
things? It's because so many people in
the body of Christ have been programmed.
So many leaders have been under programming, so, so much has
been locked down from every area of society, whether it's
Hollywood and and this is coming out with the DD trials, who was
totally involved in all this stuff to the church, to
politics, to CEO's of major corporate like program
individuals sitting in all of these major areas being decision
makers, being gatekeepers. When you introduce deprogramming
into the conversation, and you have a groundswell of grassroots
people calling out the false reality overlay for what it is,
then you begin to break the matrix.
But that still is only part of the conversation, because then
you have a whole other wave. And that other wave has to do
with warriors, actual spiritual warriors.
In my spiritual experience, whether it's in my own personal
prayer closet or on behalf of the people God has called me to
serve, had to contend with most of the highest ranking powers in
the Kingdom of Darkness, including Lucifer and Satan.
In a very direct way, it's just been part of the job
description. What I've realized is that they
have to be reminded who's boss because they don't understand
anything except power. They understand the power of
God. When God comes and slaps them
out of their power structure as a result of what his children
are doing in response to our prayers,
the army that has to come up and then it, you know, deal the
death blow to these powers of that.
That's how you actually weaken the the movements of the Kingdom
of. So we've gotten into some really
unique approaches to doing the stuff that I think are are
pretty far ahead of where a lot of the, you know, others in the
body of Christ. But that's part of the
forerunner concept. You know, one of the things we
did most recently at our at our bribe tribe advanced.
You know, we don't do events where it's just like, all right,
everybody just come in, learn some information and go home.
Like at our annual conferences, we are always pushing the
envelope on something inspired by the Lord.
This most year, we most recent year, we took on Babylon like as
as an entity Babylon. And we didn't do it as like
platform ministry. And I was like, everybody watch
me take on the spirit of Babylon.
We did it as like 500 people strong in A room in agreement.
And I'm, I'm not going to explain all the mechanics of how
we went about doing that, but we did.
And everybody that was there knows we as one body of Christ
pronounced judgment on 10/10 aspects of Babylon's influence
in this earth. And I have watched this entire
year the news spell out the judgments that the 500 or so
that were standing with me at our bride tribe advanced this
year pronounced and and and things that literally just made
no sense. It's like this will never
happen. No way that's not possible and
it's happening. And so it's, it's the warfare is
not something that happens because you have one mighty man
of God that sits on a hill. Like what what we're moving into
is an era where it's the United body of Christ as a corporate
temple housing the glory of God. And that that that's the
governing body, that's the ecclesia that has the authority
to then rewire the spirit world. Now that level of stuff is only
going to expand as we go forward because this is this is where
the confrontation to the beast system, it happens.
And so, so you, you have this cascade and then there's phases
beyond that that I kind of talked to a little bit, but you
know, I'm going to pause there. I've said enough.
No such thing as saying enough, Dan.
There's so much to be said. And I love that idea that you're
painting, which is just exactly the marching orders that I've
been hearing from the Lord too, is we, we are, we have to stop
being on the defensive. We execute his judgments in the
earth. That is not a passive role.
That is a because you've sat at his feet and you've been naked
before him and you've cried your tears and you've had your broken
heart and you've you've walked through the shadows.
You have been clothed in his glory because of the humility
he's wrought in your soul. It's the only thing that can
carry His glory and His power is that deep humility that
transcends observable action. It is your identity.
And when we, when we execute judgement from that place, what
is the enemy going to do? Nothing.
He's going to roll over and feel sorry for himself.
Why? Because we are his bride.
What would He not do for us? How would he not show up?
It's it's what he has created all of this for is the
manifestation of who he is. And that's being seen in the
army of volunteers. It's being seen in those who
have watched his wisdom execute deliverance that mankind could
never have mapped out without the Holy Spirit.
And so when you, when I'm I just yes and Amen to this governing
body, the truly, the ecclesia truly coming online and living
it out in ways that are then measurable in society and
geopolitics and, and whatever it is, because this is what's
breaking forth. This is it.
There's there's no stopping it now.
Why? Because he's faithful.
This has been his plan all along.
This is just the next step. You've talked about ages and
cycles and so many of your you had a good long sermon series
and and scrolls and the pre Adamic.
And when you roll all these things together, it paints a
picture of momentum that is truly beyond wisdom.
It is so supernatural and incredibly providential and and
we just have to submit to the to the prescription of his calling
in our day-to-day life. What is he doing?
What is he saying? What is he doing?
What is he saying? It's on repeat in my head.
I just invite people to have the same thought when they encounter
anything. What are you doing?
What are you saying? Because the way that the Lord
executes his agenda in the earth, sometimes it's very
nuanced, and you are underestimating the power of
your proclamations. Don't sell.
Don't prostitute your agreement in the earth for demonic
agendas. Don't shake your head when
somebody's saying, oh, the darkness is coming, this
generation's last. No, don't even put an ounce of
agreement in that place because it's a lie.
And you're underestimating the power of your agreement.
And Dan, I learned this from you.
There is so much value in the Kingdom of darkness to human
agreement because of who we are. We can't sell that short and
those opportunities that come to declare his judgment in the
earth to speak as the ecclesias sometimes there with there are
the whispers. It's not always the thundering.
It's not always oh, now this geopolitical body's doing this
thing. We must not consent and pray
against us like he will whisper to you in your you're walking
down the street and he'll show you some Prince, some ruling
entity in a place, and you can just listen to him and he'll
tell you how to break that thing's face off and shackle it
to the underworld and just shut it up for the rest of eternity.
Why? Because this is the systematic
dismantling of a system that has held humanity in bondage for
generations. And he's over it.
He's for the liberty of his people.
God is reconciling everything to himself in the hashemiens, in
the heavens and on the earth. And so yeah, Carly, not
underestimating the declaration episode 180, I did the spiritual
Declaration of Independence over the state of Pennsylvania.
And with what Dan is saying, I really do feel like bride
ministry was doing like a way bigger thing in the ecclesia.
And and some of that trickle effect came out through one
person saying within my state, I am going to be that bold.
The righteous are bold as lions. Folks, remember that scripture.
And so all of this like just makes more and more sense as we
go along. Baz, I want to I want to ask you
because what I what I've been so blessed by you and Gans is, is
the word also says plant and water seeds.
And then God gives the growth, right?
And it's like the idea of bamboo, that root network,
you'll never know it's developing.
It's under the darkness of the earth for five to six years and
it shoots up within 24 hours to 8 feet and then higher and it
just takes over everything, but it builds like this invisible
kind of network. 1st and this is one of these perspectives that I
believe is encouraging for me personally and others out there
listening with what you guys are doing through a news analysis
through just being kind of juggernauts in the space of you
can say whatever you want, send a million messages and signals,
but Basil and guns are going to maintain a posture of Jesus
Christ as Lord in the midst of all of it.
It's another one of these kind of beautiful, if I could even
say a, a, a sequence of fivefold ministry starting to, to come
together. But like, you know, we're, we're
each in a lane and have something that we specialize in.
So I do, I want to pass it back to you with this idea of
combating, right, the stance that you have taken just year
after year after year. We're going to talk about the
glory of God and we're going to break down the the news in a way
that glorifies the one name that's above every name.
And what are your thoughts with how many seeds you've planted,
Basil that you're unaware of? Sorry.
Yeah. I mean, we're, we're just so
blessed. It's it's a weird business to be
in. Anybody who, you know, primarily
does stuff online, it's just kind of a weird way to live your
life that can have a lot of extremes.
And I will say so grateful to God to hear again since because
he has sustained us for so long just together as a team.
And whatever he walks us through, I'll say it's not every
day. But when we do get somebody who
reaches out and maybe they've been listening again, like I
said, for 10 years or more, or maybe it's a teenager who first
heard us, you know, when riding in the car with their parents,
you know, in 2012 or something. For me personally, it is an it's
a miracle. Honestly, it's an absolute
miracle because it's a lonely business sitting here day after
day for anyone who is following a calling that God has given
them. When you're called to something,
you know you must do it. You know you must show up, and
you know that God's got your back.
But it's not always apparent in the sort of material human way
that we desire, you know, as far as day-to-day encouragement or
day-to-day measurements of success or day-to-day reminders
that you're on the right track. And you know, not only with, in
this case, podcasting, but you know, I've been in the ministry
in, in all its various forms. Since I was very, very young and
for anybody who is trying to follow the calling that God has
put on their hearts, it will become intimately familiar with
this feeling of going long stretches and and wondering to
oneself in the dark of night, Am I even doing this right?
Like am I following am I, what am I, what am I doing?
Like there's is there a time, how would I know if God wanted
me to stop or how would I know if I got off track with what God
wanted? And he has this amazing ability
to bring the perfect person to say the perfect thing at the
perfect time. Not to measure by man's
standards, you know, not to measure success by man's
standards. But this really gentle,
gracious, otherworldly confirmation, sometimes straight
from the, you know, the mouth of children where you go.
It does. It doesn't even matter what the
literal words are or what the, you know, what the context is.
But he speaks through these little moments of, like you
said, people saying, oh, I found you in 2012 and I found you at
the right time or oh, I'm getting a little bit of a bounce
back from somebody there. I don't know if that was me or
whatever. And you start living your life
by these different standards. And it's these standards of God
sort of just taking a paintbrush almost and painting your life 1
little brush stroke at a time. And it's, you know, incredibly
rewarding, but takes takes something like getting used to
something, you know, you got to get used to it.
And part of that is being so sensitive, trying, trying your
best. But often times it's happens
when you stop trying, you know, to to develop this sensitivity,
this moment, like somebody said earlier, where it's a whisper,
which is a really special thing, but totally outside of the usual
measurements of success. Now, that being said, when it
comes to planting seeds, that is, I am so grateful to have
spent enough time in, in the church and in ministry to have
developed to this sense that the only job we have is to plant
seeds. And you know, the harvest is,
is, is God's, is God's domain. And it's just been incredible to
see. I mean, back to some of the
first comments I made in this conversation, the it's almost
like the growing period or between planting and harvesting
is so invisible, happens by God's timing and happens in
other people's lives that when the harvest comes in, it is an
absolutely is an absolute celebration.
I was trying to think of maybe some sort of image or metaphor
to compare it to, but I really have a hard time doing that.
But that's, that's really all we're called to do.
You know, when I encourage people to take that first step
and get doing what God wants them to do, there is a, a
process of disconnecting your measurement of success with
God's measurement of success and living a life where the best
thing you can do is say the words that God, you know, has
called you to say and then just wait patiently.
And that's on an individual level here.
And I think we're also seeing it honestly on a worldwide level.
Like Dan alluded to, you know, everybody is playing this
different part in the battle. And much like, you know, a real
sort of military or an intelligence scenario, you only
really know what your job is. You only really know what your
instructions are, what your orders are, and you know, you
have to trust that whoever is in charge has a broader picture.
And it's being carried out not because it's just a brilliant
plan, but because everybody has agreed to just do exactly what
they've been ordered to do. And so, so I just encourage
everybody to do that. I'm so well said, Baz.
And I mean, Carly, do you kind of want to put in, you know,
some last thoughts as we we start to land this plane and
then we'll pass it to, you know, just closing statements.
And I'm pretty sure everybody on the MMS knows where to find
Canary Cry Radio and Bride Ministries with Dan Duvall.
But we're also going to offer, you know, a minute for them guys
to plug in anything they'd like. So.
Yeah, I would love to just admonish the listener to
recognize how intimate and personal your walk with the Lord
needs to be as the world continues to change and turn
into something that we can't entirely conceive of right now.
The most important thing that you have in your arsenal is
knowing His voice. That is going to be everything
and it has been everything the whole time, but it's been
overlaid with formulas and bunch of math stuff that just, it's
not going to suffice for what we're walking into and keep
pressing in. It's not a performance.
It's a deep intimate place with the Lord.
It's deep inside. That's where the victory starts.
And if you nurture that, nothing, nothing will hold you
back. You will live in victory in
every moment of your day, even when it doesn't look like it.
You will know because your identity is victory.
Period. That's what it is.
So it doesn't matter what it looks like out here.
You're showing up on the top because you seated in heavenly
places in Christ Jesus. This is an identity issue, and
as much as we rightly talk about the execution of our identity
and how that plugs in to the world, it is it ultimately your
purpose is to express the marriage between your being and
the being of Christ into the earth in everything you do.
It doesn't matter if you're folding the laundry or you're
preaching A sermon or you're writing prayers that shake
heaven and earth or you're connecting dots for 15 years so
people can start to understand the false reality overlay, all
those things that we're talking about.
Who is sitting on this panel right now?
It is less about the formulas that that they are presenting
through the hardships of their life.
And it's about showing up in the truth of of the intersection
between Christ and who you are in everything.
It's authenticity, it's honesty, it's rawness, it's realness.
It's the truth that cannot be dampened, period.
Because it's literally on fire. So stand in your victory and
walk forward knowing that you are exactly who he needs right
now. You already are.
You're not broken. You're not broken.
You have everything you need in you.
And that is the truth that needs to be wrestled with.
And the places inside your, and I'll finish with this, the
places inside yourself where there's doubt, that's a holy
place the Lord is waiting for you inside of to reconcile the
truth to your heart realm. He's sitting there waiting for
you. Open the door and walk in and
Sup with him, as Dan has said so many times, because in that
place the truth will be born into this realm.
And that's so important. So thank you all so much.
It has been such a blessing of a conversation, and I pray it goes
far and wide and touches all the lives and all of the cosmos that
needs to hear it. Because you're right, this
isn't, this is not just about people.
This is about reconciling the cosmos to the Creator.
Every aspect of creation is crying out for reconciliation.
Amen. And how great is it when we do
that together in unity with one mind?
So Dan, I want to pass it to you and just say, you know, plug in
where you can be found and give your recommendations for the
audience who have taken this emotional and powerful roller
coaster ride with us. Ridemovement.com, that's our
ministry website. danduvall.com you can find our podcast.
We have a lot of resources that you can navigate, including all
of our ministers at Service Coaches, a free deliverance
portal, prayer resources, a whole school, etcetera.
We do also, you know, I mean absolutely press the foundation
and the basics like the Word of God, prayer time, fasting.
There are certain spiritual, foundational things that
everybody needs in their life if they're going to ascend to the
higher calling in Christ, that that deals with some of the
things that I was speaking to earlier.
And if you don't know where to start, start there.
Amen. Amen.
And Baz, same thing for you brother, plug in where you can
be found tying, tying a quick loose ends that you might have.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, we have a couple of
different things going on at the same time, which is always
confusing. But we have Canary Cry Radio,
which is, you know, you'll find a collection of a decade or more
opportunities of diving into the sort of foundational research
that has become so popular nowadays across the board.
We just recently had the opportunity to speak with Zoltan
Estevan, who is a fellow we've been tracking for quite some
time. He is a transhumanist.
He started the Transhumanist Party, technology transhumanism.
This is obviously another one of those things that was so fringe
and weird to talk about, especially through a biblical
lens. And it is very much a biblical
and prophetic tough topic that has so much to do with with
everything. And we got a chance to sit down
with him after many years of following his story there.
So you can hear that most recent conversation with him at Canary
Cry Radio. We're on YouTube and places like
that. But I always point people
towards the podcast version that, you know, whatever your
favorite podcast player on, just search Canary Cry Radio and
Canary Cry News Talk. I know we should have chosen
much different names because people get them mixed up a lot.
They are two different shows can hear Craig news talk is where
you can get a couple times a week.
We are just diving into the current events, trying to bring
sanity, trying to be bring the biblical perspective and keep
everything rooted in Christ and what our daily practical
response to the madness is. Because remember, the media is
not just the news. It's not it, it is the control
mechanism. It is the illusory magicians who
are controlling language, controlling stories, not for,
you know, for anything else, but to control our perception of
reality. And if we can't trust our
perception of reality, that causes a lot of problems, as I'm
sure many people here can attest to.
So, you know, it's really a, a family affair.
We've got a great community and we encourage everybody not to
just treat it as a, you know, just another podcast or news
source, but really consider it a a family of believers who can
find each other and do our best to make it through that unreal
reality that's being sort of forced on us all the time.
And again, you can find us on YouTube and Rumble and stuff.
But of course, the podcast version is my personal
recommendation. And it really is meant to be, as
you know, this this far along in the movements, the sort of
fringy, prophetic biblical lens to try to see past the illusion.
You know, this is a movement with a long history.
And it is one that is primarily focused, I believe, on trying
our best to get back to the objective reality of creation as
as God intended us to be living in, to be walking in like Adam
in the garden and keeping that focus every day is, is a very
encouraging and a very motivating thing to wake up to.
So encourage everybody to do that.
And thank God that my voice seemed to have somehow made it
to the end of the episode. So praise God for that too.
I think you sound better here at the end than than right out the
RIP man. So praise God for both of you.
Dan Broad Ministries Basil and Canary Cry Carly excellent Co
host on this one. You had great questions, great
insights. I'm going to close this out
reading a quick piece of scripture for you.
O God have heard my vowels. You have given me the heritage
of those who fear your name. You will prolong the King's
life, his years, as many generations.
He shall abide before God forever.
O prepare mercy and truth, which may preserve him.
So I will sing praise to your name forever, that I may daily
perform my vows. Psalm 61, five through 8.
Well, that's it. That's the show.
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It helps us find one more person just like me and you.
And honestly, it's just the right thing to do Bye.
I trusted in your word many troubled nights.
All that darkness thought I lost my sight.
The devil shooting shots, trying to end my life.
But I'm covered by the blood, so I'm going to be all right.
I'm down one, but I'm up to. I've been down once.
But his Love's true. I'm seeking this face, feeling
the grace. I'm running this race for
eternity. Space.
I need more love. Less tears, no more drugs, less
fears. The stress reel detached it.
I'm washing over everything up in my mind.
Pummel the devil. How's this feel you?
Out of time. Look, God, you said, you never
leave me. 'Cause my baby pictures, they
got me crying like I'm dissing the devil and I'm praying just
real hard in the spirit. I'm really feeling the Holy
Spirit is coming near me. I'm like Lord God, be the way,
the truth, the life, don't ever leave me.
Jesus Christ, I really need you tonight.
I'm like, Lord God, you put it on my heart.
You're moving in and through me and you're erasing all the dark.
You're the way. You're the truth.
You're the lie. Lord God, you said you never
leave me. Lord God, you said, you'll
always. See me through, you'll always
see me through. Lord God, you said you'll.
Never leave me. Lord God, you said you'll always
see me. Through.
You'll always see me through. Yeah, you justified the
sentence. Me, I pray you don't prepare me.
Times I remember. And think about the penalty.
Desires of the heart brought rebellion, causing enmity.
Lord, you know the truth here. Despite who we pretend to be.
I'm giving you the enemy. This is what it looked like.
And This is why I took Christ, the one who made a crook life.
Forgive me for my idol words. Every word.
I took life sometimes. I should have stayed here.
For every step I took life. My God ain't desert me.
Capsized and mercy. Baptized and mercy.
Yeah. I should have died from
backsliding, curses, trapped, dies and hurses and capsized.
My purpose here, Lord God, you said you never leave me.
Lord God, you said, you'll always see me through.
You'll always see me through. Lord God, you said you never
leave me. Lord God, you said you'll always
see me through. You'll always see me through.