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Hello folks. 
This is Princess. 

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You are listening to the 
Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.

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Thanks for listening. 
Don't forget to share with your 

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friends. 
That's tough. 

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We're in a very tough spot. 
I think that what we're doing 

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right now is a great benefit and
virtue because it's an end 

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around between this whole 
corrupt informational system, 

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media system. 
We claim to believe in a God who

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spoke the universe into 
existence and literally raised 

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himself from the dead, and yet 
we are not going to believe that

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anything else exists in the 
spirit realm, even though his 

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word tells us that they do. 
Their bodies weren't permitted 

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to go to sleep like humans do, 
and they weren't permitted to go

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to heaven, so they wander the 
earth. 

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You know, I've seen the eyes 
turn black to unknown tongues 

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being spoken. 
These giants would live way up 

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in the Highland. 
The young Braves, the young men 

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would hide up in the trees and 
wait for one of these 12 footers

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to come walking down the path. 
And they would jump on them and 

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kill them, drag them back to the
village and the village would 

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feast on the body freedom. 
Then people start to get 

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weapons, they start to get 
armor, they start to build 

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cities, they start to fortify 
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Now God looks down and there's 
violence everywhere. 

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The battle, this war that we are
at, is not against each other. 

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It's against these 
principalities and these rulers 

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and these archons in the high 
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It's really worthwhile to read 
the Bible yourself. 

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Fear is one of the primary 
drivers of mind control, because

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we have to take every thought 
captive and resist fear. 

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You're going to have a testimony
that is a justice case against 

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the Kingdom of Darkness. 
Welcome back to the Millennial 

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Mustard Seed Podcast. 
I am your host, Rod, and thank 

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you for being here with me for 
another awesome episode. 

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But this isn't just any episode.
This is episode 100 and it's 

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very special because I am joined
by the one and only Basil 

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Rosewater from Canary Cry Radio.
Many of you may know him from 

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Canary Cry News Talk. 
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me because it was Basil and Gonz
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enough in 2017, through 
listening to their podcast 

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Canary Cry Radio, to take a step
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podcast. 
And this is kind of full circle.

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Sir Basil and I have a really 
cool conversation. 

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I ask him some questions. 
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podcast shop talk. 
Basil shares with us advice, 

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oversight, you know, just 
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podcasting, how it started, the 
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now, warning what to look out 
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And towards the end of the 
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supernatural encounter that he 
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anywhere else on air before. 
Gonz will be on in the near 

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future, but for right now I want
you guys to enjoy episode 100 

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here on the Mustard Seed with 
Sir Basil And you guys don't 

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forget to leave me that five 
star rating and review that 

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helps the show grow in the 
details. 

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In the show notes. 
You guys want to help us in our 

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time of need? 
You can donate right there. 

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We appreciate you guys praying 
for us, all of the 

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encouragement. 
And for taking this journey with

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me here on the Millennium 
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But I won't waste any more time 
because we have basil here from 

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Canary Cry Radio and I'm ready 
to jump into this episode. 

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Are you guys ready? 
Let's go. 

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Hey everybody, your best buddy 
Basil here from Canary Cry News 

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Talk. 
And I want to welcome you to the

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Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
Basil, what is going on, man? 

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That was an epic introduction, 
and it is a honor to be with you

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here on the Mustard Seed, bro. 
Thank you very much, Rod. 

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I'm happy to be here, man. 
Uniquely, you and Gonz. 

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Inspired me to take the step to 
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to you guys in 2017. 
Yes, I love. 

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It. 
I love that. 

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I love hearing that. 
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lot of people out there that 
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takes a big leap. 
It takes, you know, some serious

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inspiration. 
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being inspired by us means that,
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Or something. 
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guys can do it, I can certainly 
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So in a nutshell, what was 
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wrestling through all this 
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I had a supernatural life. 
I have all these questions. 

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I kind of always felt like the 
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keep my mouth shut, if you will,
you know, through like physical 

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trauma to my face all the way 
to, you know, having trouble 

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talking as a kid and just like 
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of my life. 
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I'm listening to you guys at 
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feeling like the burning down in
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you know Doctor Chuck Missler at
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like falling out of my chair and
I'm going, nobody else is 

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talking about this like, like 
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find you and guns. 
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well, there's other voices out 
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through like day by day as I'm 
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guys shows at that time on 
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finally just being like, you 
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Well, I'm going to take a step 
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talking about what's in my mind,
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pieces I'm putting together and 
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it. 
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lead in that way and we're 
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Sasquatch Chronicles at the time
and like between just nobody 

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else, really like being bold and
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stuff out. 
I'm like, man, you and Gonz were

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like, you guys were it, man. 
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it. 
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I'm like, I want to. 
I want to do what they're doing.

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So yeah, that that really pushed
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That's great man. 
I'm very humbled to hear that. 

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When we started back in 2012, 
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The Fringy Space and Future 
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when we kind of met and we're 
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I'm weird too. 
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church at the at the time in the
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who really never talked about 
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into it on the company dime. 
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see the, I mean not even just in
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although that is a a big part of
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You know, we often joke Gonz and
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if this is a simulation, like 
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podcast, Like they're, you know,
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that we could talk about. 
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or, you know, secret society, 
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year, it just kept coming true, 
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the next generation of people 
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and you're definitely a part of 
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And we're we're just stoked. 
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somebody was inspired to start a
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Because here's the thing, we had
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we started. 
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folks. 
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year to get to 100 listeners. 
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totally different back then. 
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now. 
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And you know, there we got to 
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fathers of the genre. 
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know, the generation before us 
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like this for a long time. 
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longer than we have. 
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I hope they're retiring, 
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with podcasters and fringe 
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there's no quality retirement 
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But yeah, it's been really fun 
to a continue podcasting, which 

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is the hardest part about 
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listening. 
I've walked, you know, a dozen 

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people or so through starting a 
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I've started many myself and it 
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But what is extremely difficult 
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go a year and not see a lot of, 
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You'll go two years. 
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science. 
I have it here around between 40

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and 60 episodes, and I this 
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talk about, but just to try to 
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four episode 40 and episode 60, 
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That means you've been doing it 
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to feel like work. 
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to 60 episodes, you can pretty 
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you're like, oh gosh, I 
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seeing any growth or anything. 
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So I tell every person trying to
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to start, roll with it, use that
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where most podcasts sort of drop
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Theory, which both made it to 
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Until you know the IT just, you 
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Your schedule is different, your
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it becomes work at that point. 
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After that year, consider it 
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It must be your job. 
It must be your purpose. 

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And when I mean job, I mean, of 
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However, you need to make money.
The chances of making money 

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podcasting are extremely slim. 
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episodes, that's when the rubber
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in. 
You gotta dig in, keep your 

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schedule, and just keep 
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inspiration 'cause it gets 
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Yeah, wow, Wise words, man. 
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podcasts that that I talk with 
that are right at that year 

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privately and and I've been 
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the 3rd and 4th year marker? 
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like you know, it's like drive. 
There's always hope, But you 

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know, it's really when you, and 
this is a good thing to learn in

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life in general, which is, you 
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only get you so far. 
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episode 40, you have to start 
going into some internal 

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motivation. 
You you have to remember why 

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you're doing it. 
You need to, you know, set goals

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and work towards those goals. 
And it really does. 

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It turns into really just like 
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you gotta have that internal 
motivation and my goodness, just

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pray that the Lord keeps you 
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biggest part of it. 
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Well I mean for you, you've you 
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game like you and Gonz have been
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Like I think you guys were like 
the second podcast I really ever

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listened to. 
It was like sounds about 

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Chronicles and then you guys. 
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I'm like Christian weird, I'm 
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Like I I just, I'm in. 
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foot view of what things have 
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2020 marker. 
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brief overview of that. 
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of Canary Cry radio, Yes. 
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We can do it consistently. 
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It won't take away from what we 
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And again we kind of made these 
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get podcasting, you know, the 
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reaching out to like three and 
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taking up people, too much of 
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hearing me ramble on and say it 
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the lesson to keep things short,
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building upon sort of the Canary
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laid down for about four years. 
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we've never done anything this 
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COVID hit and you know I had 
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professionally podcasting wasn't
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want wanted to help out and that
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it was not enough to live off 
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money problems. 
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Let's keep it rolling. 
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called No Agenda with Adam Curry
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career professional highlight of
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episodes ago is huge, kind of a 
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So that in the sort of storyline
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cool. 
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basically lifted their model and
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somebody has criticism of that. 
That's fine. 

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We have no shame that, you know,
we had a show, it was working 

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COVID hit, we had no money and 
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for value model, switched over 
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some of those episodes were 
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We go from once a week, a 129 

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days of lockdowns, you know, the
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consistency beforehand, somehow 
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do 3 episodes a week, hopefully 
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fail. 
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couple times, but we're still 
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and it's still working. 
And man, am I just like, I don't

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know. 
I don't have the words to truly 

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express how absolutely blown 
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I mean, I tell people all the 
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whatever. 
I literally think that I am the 

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luckiest human alive. 
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blessings that God's given me 
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blessings God has given me up 
against anybody who thinks 

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they're the luckiest person 
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not, you know, whatever. 
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that space of gratitude, 
because, you know, I can barely 

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believe it. 
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just keep going. 
Perspective is everything, man, 

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and it's so fascinating to like,
Come to hear. 

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You know, just like where your 
heart's at with it after all 

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this time, You know, to like all
these years of like hearing your

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voice. 
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factory and just like it's like 
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And like when COVID hit for me, 
it was like I was an essential 

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worker. 
So like, we were like I was 

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working mandatory Fridays on 2nd
shift at the time, like it was 

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crazy. 
And so I worked probably the 

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most through 2020 and like the 
rest of the world, was on 

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Paul's. 
So there was like a lot of stuff

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where it was like just hearing 
your voice all those years now 

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sitting in front of you and 
seeing the googly eyes and like 

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getting to hear like, you know, 
you're hard on this. 

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And like, you know, I know for 
me like one of these rewards 

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that I've just kind of been 
seeing is like messages and like

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audio messages from other people
being like. 

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Thanks for creating this 
content. 

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You know, like we did some 
episodes with Doctor Robert 

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Rodich on like you know 
frequency and different 

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different. 
We get really fringe on the 

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mustard seed, but we also talk 
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things like miracles still 
happen. 

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God is still in the move. 
So it's a really wide spectrum. 

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But hearing people say, hey, 
thank you for creating that like

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and then just being like man, I 
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When I listen to you and God's 
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six months and being like 
there's somebody else out there 

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and like I'm like little, you 
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the boldness comes forth, you 
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great. 
And so there I call it the 

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ripple effect. 
I love the ripple effect, you 

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know, and just seeing, you know,
the scriptures say we plant and 

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we water seeds, the wage is 
good. 

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You know, we're going to get a 
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But God gets glory because he 
causes the growth. 

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And just to marvel at that and 
like, really, this is going to 

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be the 100th episode Basil for 
the Mustard Seed. 

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You know, we, we launched the 
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beginning of 2020. 
Before that, I had a total 

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failure podcast called Not of 
This World. 

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Don't Go, listen to it. 
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just getting my foot in the door
and like building that 

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confidence to be like, yeah, I 
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Oh, it hurts to hear my own 
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Like I remember, like the first 
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like was in the running row. 
Hide in the woods. 

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Yeah, it's really bad. 
But God is doing some unique 

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stuff. 
Gets better. 

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Yeah. 
Well, so let me ask you a couple

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questions, man. 
You know, with everything that 

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you guys are doing and all of 
the things going on in the world

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right now today, what would you 
say are some of the biggest 

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things for the body of Christ to
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Like stuff that's in the works? 
I mean, we can get his 

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conspiracy and weird as he want.
But give us like an overview, 

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like, hey, these two or three 
different topics, they're hot 

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buttons. 
It's continual. 

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It's been escalating year after 
year. 

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And keep your eyes on this. 
Like, just give us, Yeah, 

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whatever your mind does with 
that. 

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Yeah. 
Oh, there you go. 

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Sorry, you froze for a second. 
Oh, OK, Yes. 

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Give me a moment, 'cause, you 
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things and we covered things 
because we think they're 

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important. 
And thankfully there's a lot of 

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people doing a lot of good work 
right now. 

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And you know, I came from a a 
charismatic background. 

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That's my Christian tradition. 
So I'm very familiar and very 

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versed in sort of the the depth 
of the supernatural day-to-day. 

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And I think that's there with a 
lot of current events going on. 

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I'll kind of stick with current 
events because of course we see 

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end times prophecy sort of 
constantly in our faces, whether

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it's the unrest in the Middle 
East or CBBCSA beast system, you

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know, as fringy as you want to 
get. 

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It's it's interesting because 
they're all actually very 

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connected. 
So like everything I just 

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mentioned is like those are all 
connected and there's a lot of 

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really great people who are 
connecting the dots, staying, 

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staying up on the events and the
the connections. 

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There's a lot of people who are 
just coming into the knowledge 

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of these things. 
Thank the Lord you know, 

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podcasting has created a an 
ecosphere of communication that 

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I think is directly responsible 
for a lot of the shifts going on

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around the world in the minds of
men. 

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Let's go, man. 
Let's go. 

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And you know, that's what was so
amazing. 

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Again, just to plug my episode 
with Adam Curry, the episode 165

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of Canary Cry news talk, I'm 
sorry, Canary cry radio. 

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I think it was 688 of Canary Cry
news talk. 

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You know, he is one of the 
people responsible for the 

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invention of the technology that
is podcasting. 

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Without his role in the 
invention of RSS feeds and 

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podcasting, the world would look
entirely different. 

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We are in what's called a fifth 
generational war, 5th Gen. 

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warfare, something that I've 
been, you know, kind of 

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obsessively screaming about for 
a couple months now. 

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And the long and short of it is 
warfare nowadays can be 

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described literally as a war for
the not for the minds of the 

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people, but a war that is fought
on the battlefield of civilian 

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minds. 
OK, the biggest victories that a

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nation state, a corporation or 
an ideological faction can have 

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in the war for the world is to 
win a battle in the minds of 

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civilians around the world. 
And this goes much deeper. 

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But the point is, we've been in 
a fifth generation war for quite

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some time. 
It's been happening right under 

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our noses. 
And I don't mean metaphorically.

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This is not a metaphor that 
there's some sort of war in our 

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mind. 
There is literally a war going 

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on that is focused on. 
I mean, public opinion is the 

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spoils of war. 
And when I say literally, I mean

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the governments around the world
officially recognize that there 

447
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is a war going on. 5th 
generation of war. 

448
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,960
And if it were not for the 
technology of podcasting, people

449
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,640
like us would have no hope. 
We we would have almost no 

450
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:51,720
access to some long form, easily
digestible, easily spreadable, 

451
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:59,720
easily created, low bar of entry
sort of method to try to free 

452
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,160
our minds or at least take some 
independence in this fifth 

453
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,960
generation war. 
And of course, you know, Alex 

454
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,480
Jones has been calling it 
Infowars for a long time. 

455
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,400
And you know, I always kind of 
thought like, oh, Infowars I get

456
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,440
is kind of clever. 
You know, the war is for your 

457
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,400
mind. 
Like OK, yeah, I get it, but and

458
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,240
I don't know if he meant it or 
not, or maybe the Lord used that

459
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,760
prophetically, but we are now 
recognized to be in a literal 

460
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,200
5th generation war. 
Now with that, there's a lot of 

461
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,280
new people coming into the 
knowledge of biblical prophecy, 

462
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,040
specifically end times prophecy 
and things are starting to 

463
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,800
unfold in the world. 
I will say this as a caveat. 

464
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,560
Things are starting to unfold in
the world again that are tipping

465
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,200
people off to, you know, some 
possible fulfillment of 

466
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,960
prophecy. 
And with that, there is a bit of

467
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:03,280
a danger because when you do go 
off the beaten path, whether 

468
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,280
that's spiritually, whether 
that's, you know, 

469
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,840
intellectually, whatever it is, 
when you go off the beaten path,

470
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,840
it's a dangerous place to be. 
And this can manifest in 

471
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,160
people's, in people's lives in 
in a couple different ways. 

472
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,200
I mean, one of them. 
We've all seen it that people 

473
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,000
who were always sort of free 
thinkers, who are always sort 

474
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:34,760
of, I don't know, intelligent 
and inspiring. 

475
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,280
You know, a lot of great people,
whether they're podcasters or 

476
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:46,120
not, they can get so wrapped up 
in the identification of things 

477
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,320
like the beast system, the Mark 
of the Beast, the Red heifer, 

478
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,960
you know, all these things. 
It can become so all consuming 

479
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:02,800
that it's has a potential to 
actually take away from what a 

480
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,760
lot of what God's doing in their
life. 

481
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,280
You know, we are here to. 
I don't know if you're muted or 

482
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,040
not, but I did see you go wow. 
Yeah, yeah. 

483
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,200
I mute myself because I I 
comment like I'm like, oh, and 

484
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,160
people message me and say please
mute yourself. 

485
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,560
While they're talking, their 
name is like oh, but no, that 

486
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,760
was that was a huge bomb you 
just dropped there. 

487
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,960
Like that is a really big thing 
that we need to pay attention to

488
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,480
not getting called up. 
I'm speaking from experience 

489
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,600
like I don't. 
I'm not trying to like what I'm 

490
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,240
not doing is trying to be like, 
oh, look at all these people 

491
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,760
looking at end times prophecy 
now. 

492
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Well, that's not even cool 
anymore. 

493
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,040
I mean, chill out. 
That's not what I'm doing. 

494
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:52,840
What I'm saying is I've been 
doing this almost every day for 

495
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,480
going on 11 years now, going on 
12 years almost. 

496
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:06,080
And I have been through every 
cycle of life while sort of 

497
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,360
wrestling with this end times 
prophecy stuff. 

498
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,440
And I I can now look back. 
It's been a long, a long enough 

499
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,280
span of time that there were 
times when I was so absolutely 

500
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,840
obsessed. 
And I do. 

501
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,960
I will call it obsessed. 
Because there's a point where 

502
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,640
you get obsessed, where other 
parts of your spiritual life 

503
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,400
start to hurt. 
I mean much less, much less. 

504
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,880
Your family life, your social 
life, your church life, 

505
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,200
whatever. 
But there isn't. 

506
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,520
There is a time when your 
spiritual life can really 

507
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,160
suffer. 
You find suddenly that you don't

508
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:49,280
have peace where you're thinking
24/7 instead of meditating and 

509
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,640
praying on the goodness of God 
and on the, you know the the 

510
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:02,960
absolute awe inspiring role of 
God's hand in your life 

511
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,600
personally, you can. 
You can lose track of that by 

512
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,760
focusing on the sort of mega 
structure that is end times 

513
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,720
prophecy unfolding in front of 
us. 

514
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,920
And I've seen it a lot of times 
and I've had personal 

515
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,280
conversations with with other 
podcasters and researchers. 

516
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,520
And again, this is, I'm not 
going so far as to say, you 

517
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,480
know, to encourage people to 
ignore what's going on in the 

518
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,720
world. 
But I would say at some point, I

519
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,200
don't know what point it is. 
It's it's everybody's job to 

520
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,800
identify it in their own life. 
But at some point, it's more 

521
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,960
important to live your 
day-to-day life as if Jesus is 

522
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:54,040
coming back tomorrow versus 
spending all your time and 

523
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,040
spiritual energy on trying to 
guess when Jesus is coming back.

524
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,480
You know, we get so wrapped up 
in trying to trying to set a 

525
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,120
date, whether it's 
metaphorically or literally. 

526
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,360
You know, we get so wrapped up 
in trying to anticipate the 

527
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Lord's next moves based on on, 
you know, the Book of Revelation

528
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:27,560
where we forget to rest and 
every single day. 

529
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:34,199
And and you know, that's really 
where the the quality of life 

530
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,440
walking alongside Jesus comes 
from. 

531
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,199
So that is a big part of it. 
I mean, that's one big thing 

532
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:45,560
that I I think more than 
anything would would change the 

533
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:51,120
atmosphere in the broad spectrum
of what, you know, people are 

534
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,760
learning and living through 
right now. 

535
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,800
I think that would change the 
atmosphere in an incredible way 

536
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,400
if if we start developing more 
of that sense, what is God doing

537
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,600
right now in this exact moment 
in my life? 

538
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,160
Not what he's doing in Israel on
a global scale or with secret 

539
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,840
societies or whatever. 
So that's why is robots now hear

540
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,480
me out. 
This is an important one. 

541
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,880
This is an important one. 
OK, so don't don't don't get me 

542
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,200
wrong. 
We got to pay attention to these

543
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,400
little metal guys because for a 
lot of, for a lot of reasons, I 

544
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,480
on my show, I do a it's kind of 
like a a funny, kind of silly, 

545
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:42,200
but very serious kind of mini 
podcast within my podcast. 

546
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,720
It's called the Flippy Update, 
and Flippy is our colloquial 

547
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,600
name for the disembodied robot 
arms that are taking our jobs, 

548
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,280
enslaving our children, and 
flirting with our spouses. 

549
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,400
We use talking about Flippy as a
way to explore all the new fun 

550
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,640
and exciting ways that robots 
are taking over the world, and 

551
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,640
now there's nothing we can do 
about it. 

552
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,600
Welcome to the Flippy Update, 
everybody. 

553
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,560
And the reason why the Flippy 
Update is such an effective 

554
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:15,320
vehicle in, in my communication 
is robots. 

555
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,200
It's really not just about will 
they put us out of work. 

556
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,280
It's really not just about, hey,
with robotic manufacturing we 

557
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,520
can have universal basic income 
and everybody can live a 

558
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,880
socialist sort of Daydream all 
day because the robots are 

559
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,560
taking care of us. 
It's not just the fact that with

560
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:44,120
a lack of Labor in caregiving 
industries that robots, one of 

561
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,800
the the number one advancement 
going on in robots right now is 

562
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,640
we're caring for the elderly. 
And what does that mean for us 

563
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,760
as human beings and our 
relationship to the generations 

564
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,840
before and after us? 
That, you know, it's already so 

565
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:06,280
sad how difficult it is in 
America to care for, for an, you

566
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,480
know, our elders. 
And I say elders not our elderly

567
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,240
because they are elders. 
They, they play a very important

568
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,120
role in our lives and in our 
communities. 

569
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,000
But because of the American 
capitalistic sort of rat race, 

570
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:27,440
it's become normal to put your 
elders in a closet and let 

571
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,840
somebody else take care of them.
Now the system is built that 

572
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,600
way. 
The system is built to require 

573
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:40,320
us to separate ourselves from 
maybe the most important human 

574
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,080
relationship that we can have, 
which is our elders, the ones 

575
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,720
who passed down the knowledge 
and the wisdom from a life 

576
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:52,920
lived. 
And instead we are disposing of 

577
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,520
this vital resource in our 
personal lives. 

578
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:00,280
And again, listeners, you gotta 
tweak your brain just a second 

579
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,640
because you're a lot of you. 
When I, when you hear what I'm 

580
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,840
saying, you're thinking about it
in economic terms, you'll say, 

581
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,120
well, I got to go to work. 
I can't take care of my parent. 

582
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,960
That's why I put them away and 
and I hear you. 

583
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:19,640
But part of the battle is to 
divest yourself from those 

584
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,160
economic terms. 
Stop thinking of the way that 

585
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,560
our system is set up strictly in
economic terms, because it is 

586
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,320
set up in strictly economic 
terms. 

587
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Problem is, you cannot be a 
human strictly on economic 

588
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,880
terms. 
And so what's happening with 

589
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,160
the, yeah, with the labor 
shortage going on with 

590
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,880
caregivers specifically, the 
number one threat of robots I 

591
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,360
think right now is not just that
they will take care of our old 

592
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,040
people, which they are extremely
close to being proficient at. 

593
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:04,320
It's that these robots will be 
used to further separate us from

594
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,560
our most important resource. 
That is human experience, passed

595
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,400
down by someone who loves us and
who has our best interest in 

596
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,920
mind, 'cause I'll tell you, you 
think about the world in 

597
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560
economic terms. 
No one has your best interests 

598
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,240
in mind. 
No one. 

599
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,440
Anybody. 
Outside of your personal 

600
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:32,800
connection and your entwined 
well-being, nobody has your best

601
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,760
interest in mind. 
Not the government, not the 

602
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,200
corporations, not your mayor, 
not nobody. 

603
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:44,080
It is you and your family and 
the advent of robots. 

604
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,200
One of the biggest problems I 
see is that, sure, they might 

605
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,520
make work easier. 
They might make art in a faster 

606
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,240
way, they might do a lot of 
things. 

607
00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:02,400
But inevitably, inevitably, and 
almost by necessity, their 

608
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,360
primary function is to separate 
us from other humans. 

609
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,080
That's the big thing. 
Anything that you'd get a robot 

610
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,200
involved with almost separates 
you from a personal connection 

611
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,840
with another person and the 
powers that be, be they you 

612
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,400
know, the government or 
whatever, or principalities and 

613
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,000
powers. 
They are the most powerful when 

614
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,640
we are separated from the the 
humans around us that we 

615
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,960
actually share our interests 
with. 

616
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,160
And so Robot caretakers is a big
one. 

617
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,360
And and honestly, the list goes 
on. 

618
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,080
But, you know, it's kind of 
silly, it's kind of goofy to say

619
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,400
that robots are one of the, you 
know, biggest threats to our 

620
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,920
humanity. 
Because when I say that, you're 

621
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,040
thinking, oh, they're not going 
to take our jobs. 

622
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,680
All the music they make is bad. 
All they can't write a poem as 

623
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,640
good as a human, you know, those
types of things. 

624
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,880
And it's very intentional that 
those are the conversations 

625
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,840
going on in the mainstream 
media. 

626
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,280
You know, you'll see in CNN, Fox
News, any news outlet, oh, the 

627
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,360
robots are taking your jobs. 
Experts are worried that the 

628
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,960
labor market might be affected 
by blah, blah, blah, blah, all 

629
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,480
economic terms. 
You will never, ever see a 

630
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:23,440
mainstream legacy news outlet 
have a thoughtful analysis of 

631
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,120
how these robots that are so 
economically advantageous, but 

632
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:34,480
how they are literally wedging 
themselves in between humans who

633
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,440
can earnestly and authentically 
care for one another. 

634
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,480
And that's in every realm. 
I mean, don't even get me 

635
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,720
started on the the flirting with
our spouses part or the 

636
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:48,720
enslaving our children part. 
That's all true in different 

637
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:59,000
ways, but on its very face, the 
the the robots are coming. 

638
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,920
They're not not coming. 
They are. 

639
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,640
They will be in all of our lives
very soon. 

640
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,200
And you know, I get a lot of 
kind of eye rolls talking about 

641
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,720
how soon this is going to 
happen. 

642
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:17,160
But I'm telling you, I've been 
doing this for 12 years and 

643
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,560
almost everything we predicted 
has come true. 

644
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,160
And it's not because we're 
prophetic. 

645
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:31,240
It is because we spend all day, 
every day paying attention to 

646
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:35,440
what the the elites are 
communicating to us through the 

647
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,760
mainstream media and other 
things. 

648
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,640
And not only do we read 80 
articles a week, but we spend 

649
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,160
our time analyzing it. 
And this is only thanks to 

650
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,880
people who support our show. 
So I don't want to say that like

651
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,120
we're prophets of some kind, but
what I'm saying is they are 

652
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,760
telling us outright the 
revelation of the method. 

653
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,480
They are telling us to our faces
that these robots are here 

654
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,840
specifically to further separate
us from other humans who are our

655
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,360
only hope if we're going to make
it through this next phase of 

656
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,320
civilization with anything 
resembling sanity. 

657
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,000
And that goes for spirituality, 
too, They there's a big movement

658
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,600
in case you haven't heard, 
folks. 

659
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,040
Tune into the Flippy update. 
In case you haven't heard, there

660
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,760
is a huge spiritual movement as 
it relates to robots. 

661
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,640
Just I'm going to just rattle 
off some things, but just know 

662
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,320
that there's deeper analysis and
there's more than what I'm going

663
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,200
to rattle off, which is in the 
East, they are replacing 

664
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:50,040
Buddhist priests with robots. 
They are replacing funeral 

665
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,920
workers with robots. 
In the West, we the pastors, 

666
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,160
sort of tongue in cheek, but 
some of them not so tongue in 

667
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,760
cheek, are relying on AI. 
Maybe not to fully write their 

668
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,640
sermon, although there are some 
who are doing that. 

669
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,960
But to study and search the 
Bible, even in the most basic 

670
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,480
sense, you have convenient 
robots coming in between your 

671
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,960
pastor and the pages of his 
paper Bible. 

672
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,720
You know the not to mention the 
Church of AI, not to mention the

673
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:29,160
idea of a super intelligence 
governing our countries, which 

674
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,120
is happening right now. 
Go look at Estonia and the 

675
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,760
Netherlands. 
Both have voted many times to 

676
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:44,240
have their country led by AI. 
And so it's it's not just that 

677
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:48,840
robots are taking your jobs, but
they are surreptitiously, 

678
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:54,200
slowly, but steadily driving a 
wedge between humans and other 

679
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,800
humans. 
A wedge between humans and a 

680
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,800
spiritual life, At least, you 
know, one that we had previously

681
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:07,400
consider authentic. 
And Dr. Humans, we choose to be 

682
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,000
our leaders. 
All of these things in some 

683
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,640
aspect are being affected not 
just by the robots themselves, 

684
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,560
but by the propaganda, the 
messaging about robots. 

685
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,920
That's the that's kind of the 
the the secret to the Flippy 

686
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,840
update. 
We're not just telling you about

687
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,600
a new robot that exists, but 
it's dissecting the 

688
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,280
communication, the philosophy, 
the propaganda and the public 

689
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,160
perception of robots that will 
ultimately lead to a very 

690
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,000
unhealthy humanity. 
So there's a fun rant for you. 

691
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,680
What you're saying is is 
important and you're 

692
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,480
streamlining, like from 
listening to your podcast, like,

693
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,360
I understand. 
Like when you're saying, hey, 

694
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,080
this is just a real quick brief 
overview of, you know, how these

695
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,600
bigger puzzle pieces connect 
together. 

696
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,120
But we could. 
Literally. 

697
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,360
Spend every hour of the day for 
the next two weeks breaking down

698
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,800
one of those rabbit trails, 
proving that the elites are 

699
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,400
signalling to us, the people, 
what their plans are. 

700
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,600
Literally, when people are 
looking at their phone and they 

701
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,840
have, I don't know, five hours 
of screen time a day. 

702
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,240
And let's say they're in debt, 
or let's say they're in a bad 

703
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:24,680
relationship or like we can just
see how even the personal usage 

704
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,800
of technology and people 
negating the fact that there's. 

705
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,120
I don't know a healthier way to 
live right in front of their 

706
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,800
faces like on an individual 
basis, like not even like we're 

707
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,760
not even talking big picture at 
this point from what I'm 

708
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,480
breaking down and it's more 
like, but that bleeds out and 

709
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,640
what you guys are doing or 
showing these big overarching 

710
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,360
ideas that just like, yeah this 
is going down and I love that. 

711
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,520
You know you followed up with 
one of the most significant 

712
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,640
things you know from my question
like hey, what should really we 

713
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,400
be looking out for? 
How is this fitting together? 

714
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:02,360
You using technology because? 
That's one thing that separates 

715
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,520
us from past generations. 
It's technology. 

716
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,560
Everything that is the same 
under the everything else is the

717
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,560
same under the sun. 
You get angry, you get happy, 

718
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,000
you work hard, you don't make 
enough. 

719
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,520
You made too much now, right? 
All the issues are there, but 

720
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,360
now technology. 
That's why we're such a peculiar

721
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,120
generation. 
And I talk about that a lot 

722
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,520
being a millennial, you know, 
majority of millennials 

723
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,320
listening to the podcast. 
We're growing up. 

724
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,440
As soon as we start getting a 
couple of little hairs on our 

725
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,840
chinny chin chin, there comes 
the the Nextel phones. 

726
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,840
If you remember Basil used to be
able to like chirp your friends 

727
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,640
and it was like a walkie-talkie 
phone. 

728
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,360
So like, you'd be careful what 
you chirp somebody because they 

729
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,120
could be sitting around like, 
you know a bunch of parents. 

730
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,600
It's like, Oh well hey, going to
get us in trouble. 

731
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,880
But and then the iPhone, you 
know what is like 2007 or 2008, 

732
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,360
the the first iPhone comes out 
and and we just see now like I. 

733
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:55,560
Live outside of Philadelphia, PA
Basel. 

734
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,400
If I go to the beach or if I go,
like, on a vacation, like, you 

735
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,920
will literally see groups of 
people walking around staring at

736
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,360
their phone. 
They're probably looking at a 

737
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,280
picture of the sunset on their 
phone while the sun is setting 

738
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,840
in Atlantic City, NJ or Wildwood
or wherever they are and it's 

739
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,160
just like, OK. 
So yeah, that's just my way of 

740
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,320
scratching the surface and just 
of nodding and applaud to like 

741
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,640
what you and guns do. 
On Canary Cry news talk because 

742
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:31,080
it is important and there's 
definitely needs to be sound 

743
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,200
minds in the airwaves. 
You know, I said this with 

744
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,560
Michael Basham recently on 
Fringe radio. 

745
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,040
We were doing a live we had this
like cool little collaboration 

746
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,720
going. 
And I'm saying we need more 

747
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:44,160
sound minds, people who are able
to take their thought captives 

748
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,320
into the obedience of Christ and
help us make sense of what's 

749
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,400
going on here. 
But I'm rambling now too much. 

750
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,400
Let me ask you another question.
Right. 

751
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,680
Well, you know, if I could just 
real quick mention, I mean you 

752
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,680
you pointed it out perfectly and
you know, it's it took me about 

753
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,920
a 20 minutes of rambling about 
two separate topics to get to 

754
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,840
what you said, which is, you 
know, for people who are either 

755
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,640
waking up to this or they're in 
this or whatever, they're paying

756
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,520
attention is what it is. 
They're paying attention. 

757
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,920
The The biggest piece of advice 
that I could give to any of them

758
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:32,400
is to once in a while let go of 
the big, overarching, big scary 

759
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,000
picture and personalize it, 
because it really does. 

760
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,480
What is the use of learning 
about all the things we're going

761
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:46,480
to learn about if we can't focus
it on our own lives? 

762
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,080
So no matter what you're looking
into, whether it's technology, 

763
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,320
whether it's end times, 
prophecy, wherever, it's 

764
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,400
whatever, these are very 
stimulating things to learn 

765
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,320
about and to talk about, but 
they're useless unless you are 

766
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:07,400
making a practice on a daily 
basis of bringing that down to 

767
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:13,320
the individual level and living 
in a way that is consistent with

768
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,600
the grand picture that you're 
talking about. 

769
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,320
And that's the hardest part. 
It's very easy to. 

770
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,560
Intellectualize and to let it 
take over your life and you find

771
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,200
yourself being scared. 
You find yourself unhappy. 

772
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,840
You you find yourself short with
people who you love. 

773
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,160
You find yourself all all these 
kind of nasty little, you know, 

774
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,280
death of 1000 cuts in somebody's
life. 

775
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,600
It's not one big thing, but it's
all these little pieces of 

776
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,040
negativity. 
And if we're letting our sort of

777
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:49,800
intellectual exploration of 
these things, you know, degrade 

778
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,520
our personal independent 
experience of life, looking out 

779
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,920
your eyeballs around your family
and your personal journey with 

780
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,080
Jesus, then there's no point. 
You're actually hurting yourself

781
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,120
more than anything. 
And one last comment, you 

782
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,720
mentioned technology and sort of
in the, you know, in the the 

783
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:14,240
idea of, you know, we can scream
about technology all we want. 

784
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:18,080
But you know, bringing this down
to a personal level, how do we 

785
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,920
live truly with our, with our, 
you know, aligning with what we 

786
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:26,960
think about. 
And for those who are watching 

787
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,240
the video or for those who have 
watched me in a video anytime in

788
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:35,080
the last three years, you'll see
that I have a very unattractive 

789
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:40,520
piece of headgear on and and 
what it is, in case somebody was

790
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,560
wondering, I'm sure somebody was
it's AVR helmet. 

791
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:49,600
I am currently in VR and on the 
outside of VR of the helmet I 

792
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:55,760
have two gigantic googly eyes. 
Now the reason for this has a 

793
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,120
couple different twists and 
turns. 

794
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,680
People think when they first. 
I mean bro, people get furious 

795
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:07,840
at me about wearing this. 
I mean, I've had wonderful 

796
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,440
little old church ladies 
question my salvation because I 

797
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,400
wear this VR headset on video 
and you know, I've heard they're

798
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,160
all I'm I'm sorry if anybody has
given me. 

799
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,920
If you're listening and you've 
given me this criticism, I'm 

800
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,720
sorry for what I'm about to say.
But it's very unoriginal. 

801
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,880
What it really is, is they are 
uncomfortable with what they're 

802
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,240
seeing. 
And what they're seeing is 

803
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:39,160
someone who is giving the 
appearance of having given 

804
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,960
themselves over to sort of the 
technocracy, to the 

805
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,600
technocratic, you know, utopian 
vision of of the elites. 

806
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,880
And that's on purpose. 
It started in 2012. 

807
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,960
In 2012, we started podcasting, 
and for a couple different 

808
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:01,360
reasons, you know, I chose a 
name that is not my legal name. 

809
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,440
Believe it or not folks, Basil 
is not my birth name and it was 

810
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,880
because 2012 and it's hard for 
people to go back to 2012. 

811
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,640
Let me tell you about 
20/12/2012. 

812
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:21,560
Nobody knew that they were being
spied on on the Internet. 

813
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,360
It seems so obvious now, and 
it's a daily conversation on 

814
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,280
every piece of media about how 
everything you do on the 

815
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Internet is catalogued into 
creating some sort of digital 

816
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,760
clone of you. 
And then it's used against your 

817
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,680
best interest to make you a more
profitable and economically 

818
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,080
viable legal entity within our 
economic system. 

819
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,840
We all know that now. 
But in 2012, when you would tell

820
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,200
somebody like, hey, you know, 
Facebook is looking at all your 

821
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,760
messages or Facebook, I mean, 
that's one thing nobody would 

822
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,880
believe. 
Try to tell them Facebook is 

823
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,120
actually tracking every single 
click that you do on the 

824
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,720
Internet. 
Nothing. 

825
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:06,600
You do a secret and that's when 
people. 

826
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,120
It seems so quaint now, but 
that's when people would call 

827
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,200
you a conspiracy theorist and 
roll their eyes and be like, oh,

828
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,800
that's Basil, you know, he's one
of those tinfoil Hatters. 

829
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,680
That's what 2012 was like. 
And so I personally, being 

830
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,200
somebody who is a little bit too
wrapped up in the paranoia of 

831
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:33,080
Internet privacy, chose to, you 
know, try my best to stay sort 

832
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:38,520
of anonymous or pseudo anonymous
or whatever on the Internet. 

833
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,920
And that's just, that's in my 
entire, that's in my private 

834
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,200
life even, you know. 
And so that worked all the way 

835
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:51,760
up until 2012 when we were sort 
of required by the market to 

836
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,680
start video streaming our 
podcast. 

837
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,120
And so we needed a solution for 
me to be on video, and I was 

838
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,600
uncomfortable with my face being
out there for anybody to. 

839
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,800
And again, 2020. 
I'm saying like no. 

840
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,960
People will be able to copy your
face and then through deepfake 

841
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,320
technology they'll be able to 
recreate you and blah blah blah.

842
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,480
And even in 2020 that was like 
the 2012 version of Facebook is 

843
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,360
spying on you. 
People are like, yeah, OK, what 

844
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,120
a like, maybe someday they can 
do that, you know? 

845
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,400
Time has moved very fast and so 
is technology, so it's hard to 

846
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,600
remember a time before all these
things were so prevalent. 

847
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,560
And so my solution to being on 
video as an attempted anonymous 

848
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:48,680
or pseudo anonymous podcaster 
was to put on AVR headset to 

849
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,920
cover the top half of my face. 
People found that very off 

850
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,080
putting because it's just a 
black box on my head. 

851
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,320
So I said hey, OK, I'll do an 
art project and it really became

852
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,040
an art project. 
They say I'm going to put some 

853
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,600
googly eyes on the front. 
There you go, you can see my 

854
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,800
eyes. 
And for me sort of personally, 

855
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,120
I'm like wow, this is a 
brilliant art project. 

856
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:19,560
I'm making a commentary about 
the technocratic future and how,

857
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,440
you know we're all gonna be in 
VR and digital someday, and the 

858
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:29,200
only eyes that people can look 
into is our manufactured eyes on

859
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,400
the outside of the screen, 
attached to our face. 

860
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,440
Oh, I had such artsy fartsy like
thoughts about it, and I still 

861
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,320
do. 
I think you. 

862
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,920
Know. 
Well, let me ask you this, What 

863
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,320
are you looking at right now? 
Like what's going on in Basil's 

864
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,880
world? 
Because, like, I'm losing the 

865
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,400
staring contest with you. 
Like every time I drive. 

866
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,040
Always. 
But what do you see? 

867
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,960
And that's perfect. 
That brings me to the the sort 

868
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:59,440
of point of all this which is so
within my VR headset. 

869
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:07,760
Here I am right now looking over
about 100 miles of a beautiful 

870
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,440
mountain range. 
There's literally birds flying 

871
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,440
in the sky. 
I'm on some sort of mountaintop 

872
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,880
Chateau. 
There are, you know, very, very 

873
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:25,880
hip looking architecture and 
overlaid over that. 

874
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,600
I have one gigantic screen in 
front of me, which is where I 

875
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,960
have the video I'm looking at up
top. 

876
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,480
I have another gigantic screen 
which I have the Millennial 

877
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,640
Mustard Seed Apple podcast 
pulled up there. 

878
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,320
I've got my soundboard over 
here. 

879
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,160
I've got my recording software 
down on the left. 

880
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,480
I usually have my live streaming
chats over here, so I have the 

881
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:58,200
equivalent of 123-4567 eight 
computer monitors of any size 

882
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,720
that I would like to choose. 
And behind that is a majestic 

883
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,080
mountain range and birds flying.
And I had to turn off the 

884
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,040
butterflies because the 
butterflies would actually get 

885
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:17,680
in the way of my podcasting. 
And so I was to my knowledge or 

886
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,280
the knowledge of anybody else 
that I've asked, and I have 

887
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,400
asked many, you know, fairly 
high level professionals. 

888
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:32,640
I am the 1st and most prolific 
person to be creating podcasts 

889
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,320
in the metaverse. 
I was doing the math today 

890
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,080
actually. 
I have about somewhere close to 

891
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:44,280
2000 hours of content that I've 
created in this space. 

892
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:50,760
And again, it goes back to this 
idea that when someone looks at 

893
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,000
me wearing this get up, it looks
ridiculous. 

894
00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:00,480
But what they really are feeling
is sometimes they feel anger. 

895
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,920
Sometimes they'll feel that I'm 
just some sort of clown and 

896
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,440
they, you know, won't respect 
what I say. 

897
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,280
Sometimes, you know, they'll 
they, they think it's a joke and

898
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,640
it'll go away. 
And they TuneIn next episode and

899
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,280
it's still there. 
You know this. 

900
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,000
It's been very interesting. 
Most of the time it garners 

901
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:28,000
disrespect because people see, I
think, what they fear the most 

902
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:34,320
when it comes to technology and 
that it would be so obvious. 

903
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,800
You know, it's one thing to have
a phone and be on your phone all

904
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,520
day. 
It's kind of a personal thing. 

905
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,640
You know, maybe somebody would 
see you on your phone, but they 

906
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,440
don't know what you're doing on 
your phone. 

907
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,440
They don't know how long you 
spend. 

908
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,960
Maybe they'll see you for 60 
seconds on your phone and you 

909
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,480
know it. 
It's sort of a very private 

910
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:58,880
thing, but to create 2000 hours 
of content on the Internet where

911
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:04,920
people are forced to reckon with
what they know is coming in the 

912
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:10,960
near future, Garner's some very 
interesting sort of responses 

913
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,080
and a lot of hate mail, 
honestly. 

914
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:17,160
And that's fine. 
But anyway, so there's just. 

915
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,720
I'm so sorry I'm doing so much 
rambling, but there is. 

916
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,400
Another commentary on sort of 
our technology conversation and 

917
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,800
to answer the question for 
somebody watching this video 

918
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,280
wondering what's on my head. 
It's it's epic, to be honest 

919
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,440
with you. 
And it's it's iconic now. 

920
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:41,880
And really, it does signal in so
many ways, Basil, that this is 

921
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,280
the world that people are like, 
not only, like, voting for and 

922
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,040
lining up and signing up for oh.
Yeah, but I but I heard it once 

923
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,800
said also that. 
If there's something that you 

924
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,040
despise in somebody else, it's 
probably because you struggle 

925
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,000
with that same thing yourself. 
So for the people out there, and

926
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,400
and I'm not trying to drum up, 
you know, disrespect or 

927
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,920
discredit to their, you know, 
emotional state on how they feel

928
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,680
about seeing the googly eyes 
just, you know, reaching through

929
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,800
the screen at them. 
But I mean, really the idea is 

930
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:18,920
what you're doing is so many 
layers deep and intentional that

931
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,560
most it goes over most people's 
heads. 

932
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,440
And they're just identifying 
with like a surface level thing 

933
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,720
and just, oh, let me express 
anger or dislike because what's 

934
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,240
what's the first thing I can 
find about this person that is 

935
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,680
not normal And then peg them 
for, for that reason to try to 

936
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,320
drum up anger. 
It's it's really foolish. 

937
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,080
We got to grow up a little bit 
and and really look at the 

938
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,800
layers, the depth of why, you 
know, really sitting like I'm 

939
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,960
sitting down with you now. 
I've never really even thought 

940
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,760
about it like that much. 
I've heard you talk about, you 

941
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,160
know, over the years, on and off
a little bit. 

942
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:55,120
About the the VR headset, But to
sit down and actually like hear 

943
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,880
somebody's hard out, you know, 
like like hey, what's really 

944
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,440
going on here? 
What does this mean for you? 

945
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,360
What are you signaling? 
That's the right way to go about

946
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,040
this, you guys. 
And that's why I podcast that's,

947
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,400
you know, one of the reasons why
is like I'm not alone, like how 

948
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,320
can we connect, How can we go 
through this information 

949
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,360
together? 
And if it's really difficult, 

950
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,360
it's going to require more than 
one person thinking it over. 

951
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,400
You know the Bible. 
Like for all of the people out 

952
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,200
there that are Christians, 
hopefully you're reading your 

953
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,080
Bible. 
I know like on the mustard seed,

954
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,400
like we get new people coming in
obviously, right. 

955
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,880
And I'm always encouraging that,
encouraging people read the 

956
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,880
Bible for yourself. 
You got to study to show 

957
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,560
yourself well approved. 
But ultimately, in a nutshell, 

958
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,640
this is a body thing. 
There's not one man really 

959
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,400
heading the show here. 
Like what I feel really like big

960
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,840
on Basil is. 
Capturing what people were doing

961
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,480
right and sharing that. 
You know, like, I've I've tried 

962
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,480
to base the The mustard seed on 
interviewing other people and 

963
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,200
yeah, guess what? 
People I disagree with. 

964
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,440
People that are way over here, 
way over there, but what are 

965
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,640
they doing right? 
Like, isn't the rest of the 

966
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,560
world writing books about what 
we're doing wrong? 

967
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,240
You know, God obviously didn't 
write a book about what David 

968
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:12,560
did wrong. 
He mentioned it. 

969
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,760
But. 
You know, God wrote a lot about 

970
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,720
David being after his own art. 
And so when we're peering into 

971
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,520
the ministries that are going on
today with a lot of judgement 

972
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,360
going on, and I know I've spoken
very big and boldly, I've been 

973
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,080
noted for, you know, saying some
of the stuff that most people 

974
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,680
don't really want to say, like 
things that need to be said. 

975
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,160
But I always kind of like back 
up and like soften my heart on 

976
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,120
it and be like, well, God, how, 
how do we connect with this 

977
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,640
person or reach this person, 
right? 

978
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,600
But the idea. 
Basil and you guys do this in so

979
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,680
many ways. 
It's just like reminds me of 

980
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,400
Mike Heiser, like going into 
like the Alien Conferences. 

981
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,560
And those people, they're 
actually like being more, I 

982
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,240
don't know, receptive to the 
message than the congregations 

983
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,160
themselves. 
So you guys are in this 

984
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,640
podcasting world and you're 
finding people that may have 

985
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,440
never been able to stumble upon 
that news, they may have never 

986
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,720
heard the perspective like that.
You guys bring the table, unless

987
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,240
they had arrived right at you 
and Gonz's door. 

988
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,200
And for what you guys are doing 
and that's why it's so important

989
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,040
and that's why I'm just humbled,
man. 

990
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,400
Like I want to fanboy for a 
second with you because with for

991
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,320
me, you know like I have this 
honor and respect for you guys, 

992
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,280
for you and Gonz just because of
the foundation that you guys 

993
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,240
have laid. 
You know, I I literally look at 

994
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,640
what's going on in the world. 
Where the information like 

995
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,680
where's healthy information? 
Where can you really dip and 

996
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,040
dive into and figure out how to 
plug some of this stuff 

997
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,600
together. 
None of us are saying we have 

998
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,640
all the answers. 
None of us are saying, oh come 

999
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,000
follow me, I have it all figured
out. 

1000
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,920
It goes right back to the Berean
mentality. 

1001
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,480
Studying through the word daily 
with the readiness of mind, 

1002
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,360
accepting that which is true. 
Not being ignorant to the 

1003
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,600
devil's devices, being aware of 
what's going on around us. 

1004
01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:00,440
So for what you guys are doing, 
I'm like man, even if I lived up

1005
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,160
to like 110th. 
Of influence that that you and 

1006
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:09,200
Gonz have created. 
Like I'm content and I I often 

1007
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,080
say on the podcast one more 
person. 

1008
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,440
I was one person for you guys, 
dude, I was just one. 

1009
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,240
You guys planted the seed as the
seed was becoming the little 

1010
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,080
seed. 
It's like you guys were watering

1011
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,040
it and planting it and. 
You know, helping me with all 

1012
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,840
the negative voices in the world
and all the people you, you 

1013
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,000
know, pretty much saying, hey 
man, you're you're a nobody. 

1014
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,120
You're not going to make it. 
You're just some factory worker 

1015
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,680
outside of Philadelphia. 
What do you got going for? 

1016
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:39,440
You had a 9th grade education, 
but hearing you guys talk and I 

1017
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,720
think it was one of the 
interviews with LA Marzulli back

1018
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,440
in the day, Just your boldness. 
But then the humor too, like 

1019
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,600
getting the release and being 
able to laugh and then being 

1020
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:49,800
like, you know what? 
It's OK. 

1021
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,560
Like this isn't some like, bite 
your nails. 

1022
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,040
You have to hide because. 
Every pastor in America is going

1023
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,280
to, you know, they're going to 
come burn a cross in your front 

1024
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,120
yard because he talked about the
Nephilim or something. 

1025
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,600
Like, seriously, you know, 
right. 

1026
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,160
But some people, like, they do 
have that where they don't know 

1027
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,480
how to gauge these topics. 
It's in the Bible. 

1028
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,040
But the men of God that are 
supposed to be looking after 

1029
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,280
them won't cover their sleep 
paralysis. 

1030
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,480
They won't talk about the weird 
stuff that they're personally 

1031
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,000
dealing with and then multiply 
that by the acceleration of 

1032
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,840
crazy things happening since I 
don't know. 

1033
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,800
My whole life, but especially in
the last five years. 

1034
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,080
And you get a lot of emotionally
distraught people. 

1035
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,920
So what you guys have done for 
me, I couldn't thank you enough.

1036
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,440
And I know there's a lot of 
people that would agree with 

1037
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,920
that. 
And I don't say that to puff you

1038
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,000
guys up. 
I say that in the humility of 

1039
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,760
man, We don't understand the 
ripple effect all the time, but 

1040
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,760
God's good and he's causing 
growth. 

1041
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,160
Clearly for you guys, the growth
has been. 

1042
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,680
Phenomenal, really. 
Just blazing a trail and 

1043
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,960
charting on uncharted areas of 
anything else like that ever 

1044
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,280
been done before. 
So I'm not going to get off the 

1045
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,040
like the fanboy tip here and 
just try to get back into 

1046
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,800
interview mode, but that's 
that's great. 

1047
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,360
I mean, I really appreciate 
that. 

1048
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:15,560
I mean, I'll tell you even from 
first of all, like honestly, I 

1049
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,360
am nothing but humbled to hear 
that it's, it's really 

1050
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:27,640
incredibly humbling because you 
know, it's just like anything 

1051
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,360
else. 
We only have our perspective. 

1052
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,120
And when you reach, when you 
start reaching a certain amount 

1053
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:43,320
of people, it actually starts 
to, it becomes very difficult to

1054
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:50,880
nail down the idea in your mind 
and in your soul that really 

1055
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,280
anybody is listening. 
I mean, it's, you know, we we 

1056
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,080
try our best. 
Good point. 

1057
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:02,400
Yeah, we we try our best not to 
pay attention to like numbers 

1058
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,360
and how many downloads we get 
and how many viewers on this 

1059
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,680
platform or this platform and 
add them all together. 

1060
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,720
Let's see, you know, A, because 
it's a lot of energy that we 

1061
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,760
could use for something else. 
B. 

1062
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,520
You know, we learned long ago 
that whether there's a lot of 

1063
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,920
people or a little people 
doesn't actually change what 

1064
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,560
we're doing or what we want to 
do. 

1065
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,359
And you know, there's sort of 
this also unhealthy technology 

1066
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:32,840
thing where like it's just 
numbers, You know, it's just 

1067
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:38,160
numbers on a screen and yeah, a 
big number good, little number 

1068
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,319
bad. 
And you forget that, you know, 

1069
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:45,479
each one of those numbers is an 
actual human person who is 

1070
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:49,720
physically listening to the 
words that I say. 

1071
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,720
It's sort of mind blowing. 
It's it's almost too much to 

1072
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,359
really think about. 
And so we so we kind of avoid 

1073
01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:58,160
thinking about it as much as we 
can. 

1074
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,520
But moments like this, and 
meeting guys like you who are 

1075
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:06,200
stepping out and taking action, 
and of course the people who 

1076
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,880
produce our show are a big you 
know that that makes them very 

1077
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,960
real to us as well. 
But it's it's really a nice 

1078
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:21,960
refresher to remember that I'm 
not just a weirdo sitting in my 

1079
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:26,760
Home Office with AVR headset 
screaming into the void about 

1080
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,640
robots and you know, red heifers
and stuff like this that you 

1081
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,479
know it it's very it's it's very
interesting because doing 

1082
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:39,479
Internet work or you know 
creating stuff on the Internet, 

1083
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,120
on one hand you're like wow, 
this is amazing. 

1084
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,920
I can reach a lot of people but 
at the end of the day you're 

1085
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:50,040
just sitting in your room 
talking out loud to yourself and

1086
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,600
it's it's kind of has a strange 
juxtaposition. 

1087
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,400
Just real quick just to let you 
know I got a little pop up here.

1088
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:02,760
It said an error occurred Media 
recorder error please contact 

1089
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,160
support. 
I can refresh now but down in 

1090
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,680
this tab it says keep this tab 
open. 

1091
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,040
Stay here until your recording 
is done uploading so your host 

1092
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:17,880
gets the full file and it has a 
progress bar that's at about 

1093
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:22,960
38%, so I don't know if you if 
you're recording on your side. 

1094
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,560
I see a 99% upload continuous 
upload of your high quality 

1095
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,160
recording on Riverside. 
So yeah, it looks like there is 

1096
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,040
some sort of okay. 
So you're probably still 

1097
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,240
capturing my stuff. 
Yeah, Okay. 

1098
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,320
Yeah. 
Well, yeah, You know what, 

1099
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,480
again, it's just another reason 
why I feel like I'm, you know, 

1100
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,800
the most blessed human alive 
right now. 

1101
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,000
Because, you know, I probably 
wouldn't have it other way. 

1102
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,360
I don't think my brain and my 
personality could handle it if 

1103
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:57,160
at every moment, you know, I had
a running tally of how many 

1104
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,800
people were listening to my 
voice at any one moment. 

1105
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:04,520
But it really is rewarding to 
get and sit and talk to people 

1106
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,600
like you who have listened. 
I mean, I one of my podcasts 

1107
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,160
that is currently on hiatus 
right now, it's called The Joy 

1108
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,680
Spear Sea Theory. 
And actually Michael Basham I 

1109
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:19,480
think was the last guest I had 
on that show where I just wanted

1110
01:11:19,480 --> 01:11:22,960
to talk to people. 
It was almost like my way of 

1111
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:27,560
making the listeners real to me,
where, you know, I would have 

1112
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,400
listeners on a show, I would 
talk to them for a couple hours,

1113
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,000
learn their story. 
They'd tell me about how, you 

1114
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,920
know, they had a supernatural 
experience or how, you know, 

1115
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,160
really just like the most 
incredible life stories. 

1116
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,680
That's humbling already, just to
hear what people have gone 

1117
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,760
through to stay alive, honestly.
You're not kidding. 

1118
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:55,280
Yeah, and of course that podcast
fell victim to the 50 episodes 

1119
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,360
slump. 
But I always tell myself that 

1120
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,520
I'll pick it back up again one 
of these days. 

1121
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,240
Well, let me let me say 
something real quick so I don't 

1122
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,400
lose it. 
That I think is going to be 

1123
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,640
helpful for someone else out 
there listening. 

1124
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,600
And it'll also be helpful for me
just to say this, but you were 

1125
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,880
talking about, you know, kind of
like. 

1126
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,120
If you're reaching all these 
people, but like, you know 

1127
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,320
you're sitting in this chair and
like, you don't really like, see

1128
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,480
that and and when you were 
saying that, dude, I was just 

1129
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:25,760
thinking like the Apostle Paul 
is like writing a letter in 

1130
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,680
prison and he's got like contact
with like, you know Timothy, 

1131
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,840
Like there's like nobody else 
around. 

1132
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,960
But like little did he know that
it would actually go out and 

1133
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,200
affect people. 
Like people all around the world

1134
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,960
would read that and weep and 
just be like and learn and. 

1135
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:43,440
And not not doing a comparison 
side by side, I mean and argue 

1136
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:47,840
about it. 
But the The thing is, is it's 

1137
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,520
like the significance we don't 
always see in the moment. 

1138
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,720
And I just wanted to say like I 
I didn't want to lose that. 

1139
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,120
For some reason, it seemed more 
grandiose to my I'm at in my 

1140
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,440
head than it probably did when 
it came out loud. 

1141
01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:05,760
But I I mean, it's again, this 
is something that I'm that I'm 

1142
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,200
constantly sort of having to 
deal with. 

1143
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,720
I mean, yeah, when it comes to 
mind, mostly I just ignore it 

1144
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,000
because it's a lot to think 
about. 

1145
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:20,000
But yeah, no, that's, I mean I 
think in that goes with that 

1146
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,480
goes for everybody doing good 
work. 

1147
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,400
There's a lot of people doing 
not so great work, but there's 

1148
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,760
also people doing good work. 
And you know, the free market 

1149
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:36,680
will do what it's going to do. 
But it is another, it is sort of

1150
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:41,280
another practical part of 
reality that has just an an 

1151
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:46,960
important spiritual sort of 
analog of it, You know, because 

1152
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:54,840
in a sense all of us as spirits 
doing spiritual stuff here in 

1153
01:13:54,840 --> 01:14:00,080
whatever realm this is we call 
Earth, whether no matter what 

1154
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:05,880
shape it is, you know, we are 
spiritual beings and we're all 

1155
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,640
broadcasting. 
We're all broadcasting all the 

1156
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,360
time. 
And even in in the mean space we

1157
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,800
have no idea who we're affecting
and who. 

1158
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,640
And I mean that's kind of the 
just as a sort of tongue in 

1159
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:24,400
cheek example, you know, you get
to be my age and you get pretty 

1160
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:31,640
pretty solidly into your 30s. 
And then like meeting somebody 

1161
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,200
you went to high school with 
again and you've like forgotten 

1162
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:40,320
their name and you start talking
about high school and they tell 

1163
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:45,680
you like things that they never 
could have told you back then, 

1164
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,040
like, oh, I admired you. 
Or oh, I hated you. 

1165
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,640
And all these types of things. 
You're like, Oh my gosh, I had 

1166
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,600
no idea any of that was going 
on. 

1167
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:58,120
You know, it's just sort of an 
example of how we're all 

1168
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,000
spiritual beings broadcasting 
spiritually. 

1169
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:06,840
No matter where we are, we have 
no idea what the result of that 

1170
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,960
can be. 
I've always kind of wanted to 

1171
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,600
ask you, like, have you had a 
supernatural experience? 

1172
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,960
Like what? 
Like, what is one of those 

1173
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,280
things for you that was like, 
whether dream or vision or seen 

1174
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,640
something or whatever, do you 
have one you can share with us? 

1175
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,440
Oh yeah, yeah, a lot. 
Oh, a lot. 

1176
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,840
OK. 
I mean, my goodness. 

1177
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,880
Yeah. 
So I grew up in the charismatic 

1178
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,480
tradition. 
So, you know, I had the full 

1179
01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:42,360
experience. 
I mean, miracles and all all the

1180
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,200
way down to kind of the stuff 
that people don't understand, 

1181
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,640
whether it's the speaking in 
tongues or the shaking or 

1182
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,360
whatever, the falling out, you 
know, that was all a big part of

1183
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,760
it. 
I also had what I would 

1184
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:03,480
described as hauntings as a kid.
Like full, full, on bed, shaking

1185
01:16:03,480 --> 01:16:07,480
things flying across the room. 
Hauntings when I was a kid. 

1186
01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:09,640
Shadow, I mean, even up until 
college. 

1187
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:14,400
Shadow beings, you know, at the 
foot of my bed, taking naps, 

1188
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:20,160
sleep paralysis entities, 
whispering and whispering in my 

1189
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,160
ear. 
You know, all this kind of stuff

1190
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:29,400
and all of this needed to be 
handled spiritually at at any of

1191
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,040
the, you know, at any moment 
when when the time arose. 

1192
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,560
And of course, you know the the 
Lord never failed to intervene 

1193
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:42,800
or never failed to teach me my 
own spiritual authority, things 

1194
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,360
like that, so I could, I could 
go on forever. 

1195
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,800
But one thing then actually I 
have not, I don't think I've 

1196
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,320
ever told on air. 
So I'll choose that one. 

1197
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,840
If, you know, I've talked about 
a lot of that stuff in various 

1198
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,840
podcasts and, you know, talked 
at conferences and things like 

1199
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,960
that. 
But I don't think I've ever told

1200
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:07,440
this one, so I'll do this one. 
It's a little bit it's it's very

1201
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:16,600
valuable to me. 
So I was at College in a town I 

1202
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,840
didn't grow up in. 
I was in the big city. 

1203
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,320
Is that a Christian college? 
So of course I was in a 

1204
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:28,160
Christian community and you 
know, had to had to go to Chapel

1205
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,120
for school credit. 
And you know, I was very much in

1206
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:36,040
in in it, but I was having a 
hard time really finding a 

1207
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:41,240
church body that that was doing 
it for me. 

1208
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,840
I don't know, it was just a 
weird part of the country of the

1209
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:49,440
the normal thing wasn't working.
So I picked a church that was 

1210
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:58,440
about two hours away and I drove
in just a totally unnecessarily 

1211
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:03,520
long trip and traffic and all 
these things to to go to. 

1212
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,800
I think it was like a Wednesday 
service or something like that. 

1213
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,560
But you know, and it really was,
it really was a big thing. 

1214
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,040
Like, I'm a college kid, I don't
have a lot of money. 

1215
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:18,640
I got kind of a junkie car, 
doesn't have air conditioning, a

1216
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,240
long drive, this whole thing. 
But it was just kind of one of 

1217
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:26,360
those times in college where you
just kind of get on the road and

1218
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:31,880
you just do it because you want 
to go experience something else.

1219
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,960
And I came to this church and it
was pretty similar, pretty 

1220
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:40,200
similar to really any 
Pentecostal or charismatic 

1221
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:44,880
church at the time. 
And I recognized all the songs 

1222
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,840
and I even, I think I may have 
even recognized one of the 

1223
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,400
speakers and whatever, but I'm 
there alone. 

1224
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:58,720
And it goes into a worship 
service at the end of the 

1225
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,240
service. 
And if anybody out there knows, 

1226
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,040
if you're from the Charismatic 
or Pentecostal type places, I 

1227
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,160
mean, yeah, you'll get your 
sermon, yeah, you'll get your 

1228
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,440
worship. 
But then like the weird stuff 

1229
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:15,040
starts happening and then the 
flags come out and the 

1230
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,760
zambourines and it really gets 
fired up. 

1231
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,640
And so it was in the moment 
where it was really fired up and

1232
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,120
I was having a having a good 
time. 

1233
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:28,000
It was really refreshing because
I found it hard to find a church

1234
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,680
that kind of reminded me of how 
I was raised. 

1235
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:36,840
And suddenly the guy came out 
and he starts petitioning the 

1236
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:42,800
Lord for miracles, as as happens
in these types of things. 

1237
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,160
And you know, he's doing it, 
he's sweating, he's doing, he's 

1238
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,480
telling the telling the body 
what to do. 

1239
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:54,720
And he starts walking us 
through, says, OK, put your 

1240
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:59,400
finger on your body wherever you
need a miracle, put your finger 

1241
01:19:59,480 --> 01:20:02,160
right there and we're going to 
go for it. 

1242
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:10,800
And I had been plagued by a 
severe dental anomaly. 

1243
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,480
I mean damage. 
I had some dental damage that 

1244
01:20:13,480 --> 01:20:17,360
had had attempted to be fixed by
dentists, which just made it 

1245
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,240
worse. 
And it was just it was really 

1246
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:24,000
bad at the time. 
And so I, at the behest of the 

1247
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:29,160
guy leading the meeting, I stuck
my finger up into my mouth, into

1248
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:36,560
the back of my teeth, and I put 
my finger up in this hole, 

1249
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:43,000
basically in my teeth. 
And I'm just close my eyes, 

1250
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,640
praying, praying to the Lord, 
saying, you know, this is really

1251
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,600
this. 
I mean, this needs a miracle. 

1252
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,560
Because it's not. 
I can't do it. 

1253
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,600
I'm broke. 
The dentist has done a poor job.

1254
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,800
Like, Lord you, this is your 
thing now. 

1255
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:04,840
And I have felt a there's a 
really intense light headedness,

1256
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,680
which look, you're in a 
charismatic panisso servers, 

1257
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,360
you're going to get light headed
at some point. 

1258
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,360
But I get really light headed, a
little woozy and then I feel 

1259
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,040
just of a searing heat in my 
mouth. 

1260
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:23,600
And as soon as I register the 
searing heat, it's like in my 

1261
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:28,280
ears and in my mouth exploded 
with like, Pop Rocks. 

1262
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,640
It was like something somebody 
had jammed a packet of Pop Rocks

1263
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,600
up into my into my teeth in the 
back of my mouth. 

1264
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,280
And it shocked me. 
I'm kind of like, whoa, whoa, 

1265
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,560
whoa. 
I pull my finger out and I start

1266
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:47,240
feeling that place with my 
tongue where once there was two 

1267
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,280
very damaged teeth and I'm 
poking it with my tongue like 

1268
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:55,360
this. 
And one of the two teeth that 

1269
01:21:55,360 --> 01:22:03,920
were severely damaged was 
completely, 100% reconstructed 

1270
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,800
to its original, to its original
form. 

1271
01:22:07,480 --> 01:22:11,200
And nothing like that had ever, 
ever happened to me. 

1272
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,920
I mean, I'd heard about it. 
Maybe I was in a service where 

1273
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,600
something happened. 
But you know you're you build 

1274
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,440
your faith and you know, but but
it's different than actually 

1275
01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:24,880
having it happen to you. 
And by this time I had spent 25 

1276
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:29,520
years or so in the well maybe 
not maybe 20 years or so in in 

1277
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:34,400
the in the church. 
And I almost didn't believe it. 

1278
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:38,120
I just like I started 
questioning my own reality like 

1279
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:42,240
wait wait OK was that tooth 
actually really screwed up? 

1280
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,600
Was that was that re? 
What? 

1281
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,400
What what? 
What did I imagine that, you 

1282
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:53,920
know, I was going through this 
very astounded sort of, I mean 

1283
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:59,760
truly astounded sort of reality 
shaking experience where out of 

1284
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,360
nowhere, just a perfectly 
reconstructed tooth was now in 

1285
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,920
my mouth. 
Are you still there? 

1286
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,680
Yeah, OK. 
Your video went out. 

1287
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:14,480
So yeah, it had. 
It was just, I was just 

1288
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:16,560
confused, honestly, more than 
anything. 

1289
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:22,720
And what was even a little bit 
more confusing was that the 

1290
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:27,840
other tooth that was busted was 
still busted. 

1291
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:32,600
Like didn't get healed. 
It was just the one. 

1292
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,960
You're only getting 1, Basil. 
Yeah. 

1293
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:41,360
I mean, it was, it was really at
the time, a very, very serious 

1294
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:45,240
sort of spiritual mystery that I
was, that I was living like, 

1295
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,120
wow, the Lord. 
I mean, that is full 

1296
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:53,760
manifestation of healing, 
reconstructive, miracle in my 

1297
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,480
mouth. 
I cannot believe it. 

1298
01:23:56,480 --> 01:24:01,240
I had the dental records to show
it, but only one of them. 

1299
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,560
What about the other one? 
What's going on? 

1300
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:09,280
Lord and I, you know, in that 
same service, I'm like, Oh my 

1301
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,840
gosh, I got there like, OK, that
one worked. 

1302
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:13,600
All right, let's go for the next
one. 

1303
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:14,400
One. 
More. 

1304
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:15,720
One more. 
Let's go. 

1305
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,800
One more Again, Lord, let's go. 
I stick my finger up in there 

1306
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,520
and I'm. 
I'm going to petition him. 

1307
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,280
Really laying into it this time.
Just really. 

1308
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:26,320
Here we go. 
My faith is built. 

1309
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:27,920
This can happen. 
It happened once. 

1310
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,120
It can happen again. 
It didn't happen. 

1311
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:37,600
I walked out of that service 
with one fully heeled, 

1312
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,600
reconstructed, miraculous tooth.
Full bone. 

1313
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,920
You know, it's not like it was 
filled with gold or whatever, 

1314
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:53,720
but the other tooth was still 
crummy and that just really, it 

1315
01:24:53,720 --> 01:25:01,200
was simultaneously the most 
incredible connection with the 

1316
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,920
miraculous that I had personally
ever witnessed. 

1317
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,160
I mean, I've been around 
miracles, other miracles that 

1318
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,800
happened to me, but like a full 
reconstruction of your own body 

1319
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,480
right in front of your face and 
you can feel it and it changes 

1320
01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:16,520
your life. 
Honestly, just even having that 

1321
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:20,600
one tooth fixed, like, changed 
my life to A to a degree, not 

1322
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,440
just spiritually but physically,
like I could actually chew with 

1323
01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:28,040
it and you know, an instant 
upgrade in in sort of quality of

1324
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,200
life. 
But the other one was still 

1325
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,200
busted. 
And, you know, I think I spent, 

1326
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,760
I think I went back to that 
church, you know, at least a 

1327
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:41,640
half a dozen times to try to get
this, this other tooth healed. 

1328
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,760
And I talked, I think I went up,
I talked to the pastor, I was 

1329
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,080
talking to the team, the prayer 
team, whatever. 

1330
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,360
And I was telling the story. 
And everybody's faith was 

1331
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,480
building. 
And they were all also kind of 

1332
01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:57,040
confused about why the second 
tooth and the second tooth never

1333
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,400
miraculously got healed. 
But it did. 

1334
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:06,240
This experience not only built 
my faith, not only became an 

1335
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,080
incredible story to tell and a 
testimony not only all those 

1336
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:15,360
things, but it also made it 
cheaper to go to the dentist to 

1337
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:19,280
get the one tooth fixed by a 
dentist. 

1338
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:25,080
And so it's this, like a lot of 
things I find in my life. 

1339
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:31,400
It's this hilarious. 
I mean, we all know God's got a 

1340
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,600
sense of humor and my goodness. 
He created it. 

1341
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,800
He's really funny, man. 
He is hilarious because it was 

1342
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:45,720
this simultaneous experience 
where I mean, I the the touch of

1343
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:50,680
the Lord created a creative 
miracle, created the tooth back 

1344
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,360
in my mouth, but not the other 
one. 

1345
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:58,280
So I was, I was in this funny 
place where I was like 

1346
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:06,240
Incredible Miracle, go to the 
dentist, Incredible Miracle get 

1347
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:12,240
the dentist to do the job, that 
he's just a guy who went to 

1348
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:18,320
school and it makes his living 
just poking people's teeth, 

1349
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,480
scaring kids, creeping people 
out. 

1350
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:27,280
But he's a dentist, and if you 
need a dentist, he's a guy who 

1351
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,920
can do it for you. 
So I now have right next to each

1352
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,640
other and I think it's just an 
illustration that the Lord has 

1353
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,880
given me that is still a mystery
to me. 

1354
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,760
I'm not gonna say I have this 
figured out, but like, it is a 

1355
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:47,680
lovely touch point that I have 
in my mouth at any time where 

1356
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:58,240
the the the conflict between the
Lord bending reality for our 

1357
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:04,080
benefit and just doing what 
needs to be done. 

1358
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:08,240
Just going to the dentist and 
these two teeth sit right next 

1359
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,320
to each other. 
The one the Lord healed, full 

1360
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,160
natural tooth strong. 
Beautiful. 

1361
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,680
The one next to it, I had to get
a root canal. 

1362
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,880
It's a crown, you know. 
It's a fake tooth, but it does 

1363
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,680
the job, you know. 
And they're just with they. 

1364
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:30,160
They're with me forever. 
And it just constantly confounds

1365
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:36,520
me whenever I think I sort of 
understand what the Lord wants 

1366
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,360
me to do or what the Lord's plan
is. 

1367
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,840
It's really this beautiful 
mixture right in my life, right 

1368
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:47,760
in my mouth, of like the Lord's 
creative miracles bringing 

1369
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:54,120
heaven to earth and dealing with
it the regular way, 'cause 

1370
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:59,200
sometimes the Lord will touch 
your life and change you 

1371
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,320
forever, and then the tooth 
right next door. 

1372
01:29:03,480 --> 01:29:06,680
Sometimes you just gotta go to 
the dentist. 

1373
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:12,280
So I don't know if this will 
help anybody, but it really it 

1374
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,480
might be the most profound 
spiritual experience I've ever 

1375
01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:17,400
had. 
Not just because of the miracle.

1376
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,200
The miracle itself is 
incredible. 

1377
01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:26,480
But this message that is in my 
mouth at all times, where 

1378
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:31,680
sometimes the Lord intervenes, 
sometimes you just go to the 

1379
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,840
dentist and you know that's 
life. 

1380
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,480
That's the mystery of being a 
supernatural person. 

1381
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,880
You know, you, you have the the 
most incredible, miraculous life

1382
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,240
experiences. 
Your faith is growing as you 

1383
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:49,160
feel like some sort of spiritual
superhero. 

1384
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,560
And then the next day, where are
you? 

1385
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,240
Lord, what's going on? 
Do it again. 

1386
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,120
Do the thing again. 
God. 

1387
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:04,240
I mean, thanks for the first 
one, but can you do it again? 

1388
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:06,840
He's like, no, go to the 
dentist. 

1389
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:12,640
And then I did. 
So that's it's it's it's a 

1390
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:18,800
wonderful spiritual experience 
for me, both for what it was and

1391
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,520
for what it wasn't. 
And I think about it all the 

1392
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,200
time. 
And I don't have any answers, no

1393
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,240
true answers. 
I only have questions. 

1394
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,800
And that's just like a wonderful
question that the Lord has 

1395
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,240
caused to sort of be constant in
my life. 

1396
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:41,480
Oh jeez, I can see you're 
walking through, you know, the 

1397
01:30:41,480 --> 01:30:44,560
doors and one of the angels 
says. 

1398
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,800
Lord, that Basil's here. 
And he's he's requesting to know

1399
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,520
why one tooth was fixed and the 
other one was not. 

1400
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,560
He's like, oh, tell him he has 
more to learn. 

1401
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,280
He didn't figure it out yet. 
Yeah. 

1402
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,520
Send a message to Sarah Basil. 
That's young cherubin. 

1403
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,080
It's like this. 
This is epic, man. 

1404
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,560
That is no. 
Thank you so much for sharing 

1405
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,920
that because there's so much to 
that. 

1406
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:19,000
You know, it's kind of like in 
our weaknesses, Powers made best

1407
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,360
known. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1408
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,280
That was, that was deep, man. 
That was actually really good. 

1409
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,600
I I was literally trying not to 
blow up my microphone by. 

1410
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,280
I wanted to laugh so hard so 
many times there, 'cause I'm 

1411
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,760
like. 
That needs to be made into like 

1412
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:41,160
a little mini sniffet cartoon. 
Like young Basil goes out on an 

1413
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,600
adventure with the Lord, you 
know, he's like leaves, leaves 

1414
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:49,920
college, like a pilgrimage that 
asked me everything, money. 

1415
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,280
I didn't have time that I could 
have been used studying. 

1416
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,200
It was just like such a big 
deal. 

1417
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,920
And then just to have the 
resolution be literally a 

1418
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:07,920
lifelong non resolution, it's 
just like a a, the the 

1419
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,280
hilarious. 
I mean I I can't help but laugh 

1420
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:15,720
about it every time, but yeah, I
mean that's how it is sometimes,

1421
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:16,280
man. 
I mean it. 

1422
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:20,680
It almost truly is like a 
biblical type story, you know. 

1423
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,160
I wonder if there was ever a 
leopard that got like half 

1424
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,880
healed right down the middle. 
You know, it's like this side 

1425
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:31,040
looks great. 
This side over here, you know, 

1426
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,600
there literally is a story in 
the Bible about that. 

1427
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,200
I forgot what it is. 
Wow. 

1428
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,320
I What was it? 
It's like a partial healing, I 

1429
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,320
think, remember? 
Anyways, I don't know if we need

1430
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,840
to track it down, but let's do 
the quick thing. 

1431
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,080
Partial healing. 
Yeah, let's look into that 

1432
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:48,520
Bible. 
Maybe. 

1433
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,560
I mean, look, it's taken me 15 
years. 

1434
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,160
Mark records the partial healing
of the blind man. 

1435
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:54,920
That's what it. 
Is. 

1436
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:59,200
What is that? 
Let me pull it up here, OK? 

1437
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:00,720
Just ask. 
ChatGPT bro. 

1438
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:07,440
What are you fucking me? 
Mark 8 starting at verse 22 They

1439
01:33:07,480 --> 01:33:11,320
came to Bethesda. 
They have Beth Sada here. 

1440
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,360
Yeah, I see Beth Sada too. 
In the KGB, this was this was 

1441
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,400
the the pool of Beth. 
There's yeah, OK Beth Sada, I'll

1442
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,840
call it that. 
They came to Beth Sada and some 

1443
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,120
people brought a blind man and 
begged Jesus to touch him. 

1444
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,400
See, look at that. 
They carried the guy, brought 

1445
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,120
the blind man and begged Jesus 
to touch him. 

1446
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,000
He took the blind man by the 
hand and led him outside the 

1447
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:37,240
village. 
I see outside the village. 

1448
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,520
Got to travel a couple hours 
there when he had spit on the 

1449
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,640
man's eyes and put his hands on 
him. 

1450
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,480
Jesus asked, do you see 
anything? 

1451
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,920
He looked up and said, I see 
people, they look like trees. 

1452
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,800
Walking around. 
Once more. 

1453
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,920
Jesus put his hands on the man's
eyes. 

1454
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:57,240
Then his eyes were opened, his 
sight restored, and he saw 

1455
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:01,920
everything clearly. 26 Jesus 
sent him home saying don't even 

1456
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,840
go into the village. 
I think other translations say 

1457
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:08,840
don't tell anybody. 
That guy got it. 

1458
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:15,480
That guy got the full thing. 
OK, now you've got me on a Now 

1459
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,160
you've got me on a tangent here.
Let's see here. 

1460
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:24,200
Apparently partial healings is a
big topic on the Internet. 

1461
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,400
Very interesting. 
For any more references, Second 

1462
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,760
Colossians. 
Oh, thorn in the flesh. 

1463
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,920
Yeah, of course. 
Paul's thorn in the flesh. 

1464
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,080
Well, yeah, the thorn in the 
flesh, that that's actually what

1465
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,560
was like my first thought when 
you were telling me that it's 

1466
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:44,160
like because we're made perfect 
in our weak, like his power 

1467
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:45,720
works perfect in our weakness, 
right. 

1468
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,520
And it's like, and then, you 
know, thinking about the 

1469
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:52,920
leopards because maybe for some 
reason, if you would have got 2 

1470
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,560
teeth that night, maybe you 
would have forgot about it. 

1471
01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:00,240
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I mean, it really is the fact 

1472
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:05,280
that the difference of exactly. 
I mean that's the thing. 

1473
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:09,040
Miraculous things happen to us. 
And a lot of people listening, 

1474
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,320
I'm sure, can identify with 
this. 

1475
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:16,920
I've had plenty of other 
miraculous things happen, but 

1476
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:21,120
the one that sticks out the 
most, the one that is a constant

1477
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:26,640
mystery of which I'm seeking God
to guide me through, is the one 

1478
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,520
tooth healed. 
The other one the dentist did, 

1479
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,960
yeah, because I certainly have 
experienced lot. 

1480
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,720
Like I said, lots of weird 
spirit, like, you know, 

1481
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,640
supernatural stuff. 
But that one is just like 

1482
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,520
overarching, just like hovers 
over me all the time. 

1483
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,240
And I like it now. 
I like not having the answer. 

1484
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:50,480
Someday I know I'll get the 
answer, but right now it's just 

1485
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:52,800
like well. 
Clearly it's intentional and and

1486
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:59,120
laughter is as medicine. 
So I mean I I couldn't help 

1487
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,400
myself but laugh. 
There's going to be people 

1488
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,840
listening to this when whenever 
these says they're going to be 

1489
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,160
laughing they're going to be 
like that is just wild and and 

1490
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:12,280
God's the creator of humor and 
we think about relationship. 

1491
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,480
It's it's personal. 
It's how we relate to one 

1492
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:16,480
another. 
So like, when we have a 

1493
01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:21,760
relationship with the Lord, 
that's a special thing with you 

1494
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:22,840
and him. 
And I just think that's 

1495
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,480
beautiful. 
Thank you so much for sharing 

1496
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:26,280
that with me, man. 
And yeah, no problem. 

1497
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,280
Thanks for the opportunity. 
Yeah, that was really cool. 

1498
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:32,800
Now I really want to have you 
back someday in the future. 

1499
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,760
I I it was great just to get you
introduced to my audience. 

1500
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,200
Most of them probably already 
know who you are. 

1501
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,160
Anyway, this is just like 
awesome for me to. 

1502
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,560
Talk with you and just get this 
one out there. 

1503
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,200
You're my 100th episode, man. 
So just hit 3 digits. 

1504
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:48,920
And. 
And and Basil is the one. 

1505
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,320
So super creep. 
Yeah, dude did it. 

1506
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,440
You did it. 
Yeah. 

1507
01:36:54,440 --> 01:36:57,160
But it only took me like, you 
know, almost five years to do 

1508
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:01,440
it. 
So yeah, no, I get it. 

1509
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:02,640
So weird. 
I mean, so weird. 

1510
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:06,000
Think about it. 
Canary Cry Radio is 12 years old

1511
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:10,000
almost, and there's 165 episodes
or something. 

1512
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:14,600
Like, yeah, we definitely know 
what it's like to not quite hit 

1513
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:18,200
every week. 
But you're doing great, man. 

1514
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,480
No, that's really cool. 
I mean, this has been a very 

1515
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:23,600
humbling experience. 
I'm so glad we found the time to

1516
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:27,280
do it. 
I want a big shout out to, you 

1517
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,560
know, all your listeners, but 
especially if there's any Canary

1518
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,480
Cry listeners out there, You 
know, send me a little message, 

1519
01:37:33,480 --> 01:37:36,720
send send me a little e-mail or 
something at 

1520
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,080
canarycryradio@gmail.com and 
just say like, hey crazy on 

1521
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,920
Millennial Seed podcast, a 
Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.

1522
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:48,160
And, you know, tell me how great
I did and that'll make me feel 

1523
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,560
better, better about it. 
Tell me about your partial 

1524
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:54,400
healing story. 
So shout out to to everybody. 

1525
01:37:54,400 --> 01:38:00,200
If you have never heard my work 
or the work that the Lord has so

1526
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:04,720
graciously done in spite of me, 
go check it out. 

1527
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,240
You know there's a lot I me 
personally, I've got kind of a a

1528
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:12,280
range of stuff out there. 
We've got Canary Cry radio, 

1529
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:17,840
Super Fringy interviews, high 
production quality type of 

1530
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:19,720
thing. 
That's always fun and this 

1531
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:22,480
confuses everybody. 
We've regretted naming this the 

1532
01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:27,000
same thing every day. 
Canary Cry Radio is one thing. 

1533
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,600
Canary Cry News Talk is a 
totally different show. 

1534
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,640
That's an in depth media 
deconstruction and analysis with

1535
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,000
a supernatural biblical 
worldview. 

1536
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:41,240
We think you'll like that. 
It's a little bit more loosey 

1537
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:45,600
goosey, a little bit more 
community oriented, but give it 

1538
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,480
a couple of tries. 
And if you really wanna dive 

1539
01:38:48,480 --> 01:38:53,240
deep into the Basil verse, 
there's Ravel, which is a 

1540
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,800
podcast I did with Doctor 
Christopher Ryan Gates. 

1541
01:38:55,800 --> 01:39:00,000
We're kind of along the same 
lines of, you know, your mission

1542
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,640
statement here. 
We're just digging into the 

1543
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,400
weird stuff. 
I'd say it's it's probably a 

1544
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:11,160
little bit, it's less Fringy in 
the way that we talk about 

1545
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,880
Fringy here. 
It was my attempt to make, you 

1546
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:20,920
know, a Fringy Ish feeling to 
maybe some people who are a 

1547
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:26,920
little bit more normie, but some
incredibly in depth fascinating 

1548
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:31,360
interviews and topics on that 
one, with a very talented PhD in

1549
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,240
Biblical interpretation, Doctor 
Christopher. 

1550
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:38,560
And then if you want to go even 
real to the bottom of the barrel

1551
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:42,160
of the Basil verse, go check out
the Joy Spearcy Theory. 

1552
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:48,880
It's just an incredible time 
hearing people's life stories 

1553
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:52,840
and their interactions with the 
supernatural and the just the 

1554
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:57,200
crazy. 
You know what that show showed 

1555
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,480
me? 
I know nothing about what it's 

1556
01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:05,240
like to be someone else. 
Other people are just having 

1557
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:10,160
such drastically different 
experiences than me. 

1558
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,600
So that's a very valuable one as
well. 

1559
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,360
But no matter what you listen 
to, we got something for you. 

1560
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,320
We got something for you laying 
around. 

1561
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,160
Well, it was an honor to have 
this discussion with you, man. 

1562
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:25,520
And I just you feel like an old 
friend, you know, You just, I 

1563
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,920
feel like I've known you 
forever, just listening to you 

1564
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,040
all these years and now being 
able to talk with you. 

1565
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:35,280
I'm like, it's just too cool. 
So I love it, man. 

1566
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,960
Well, you guys go leave. 
Canary Cry news talk. 

1567
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,960
Canary Cry radio joy. 
Spearcy theories, all Basil's 

1568
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:44,840
recommendations. 
And I'll put some stuff in the 

1569
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,440
show notes so you guys can just 
go right down into the show 

1570
01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:50,400
notes of this episode and give 
it a click and show them some 

1571
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,280
love if you don't know who they 
are. 

1572
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:56,640
These guys are the reason that I
coughed up enough courage to 

1573
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:02,480
start broadcasting my own voice 
out there into the airwaves. 

1574
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,280
Guns should be on in the near 
future. 

1575
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:10,840
It's Mustard Seed episode 100. 
You guys, thank you for taking 

1576
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,000
this journey with me. 
And please share this one. 

1577
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:15,600
Yeah, I don't care how you share
it. 

1578
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:20,720
Just share this episode coming 
to you from Southeastern 

1579
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,720
Pennsylvania. 
God bless and goodbye 

1580
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,440
Southeastern Pennsylvania, you 
say. 

1581
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:41,560
Yeah, we, I know we've got quite
a bit of Canarians over on that 

1582
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,560
side of the country. 
Really. 

1583
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,200
Yeah. 
Yeah, a lot actually. 

1584
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:50,640
So many as. 
It's heavily populated here. 

1585
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:57,520
Yeah, that So we're, you know, 
just exploring the idea of doing

1586
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:02,200
some sort of conference or camp 
out or you know some sort of 

1587
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:09,240
live thing. 
You know, I don't know what to 

1588
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:10,600
call it. 
We're not calling it anything 

1589
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:15,360
yet. 
And one of the locations that a 

1590
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:23,280
producer of the show has offered
is some sort of, I don't even 

1591
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,240
know what to call it, some sort 
of wilderness camp? 

1592
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,440
And Camp of the Unknown God 
East. 

1593
01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:33,880
Yeah, that might be a good way 
to do it.