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Hello folks, this is Princess. 
You are listening to the 

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Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
Thanks for listening. 

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Don't forget to share with your 
friends. 

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That's tough. 
We're in a very tough spot. 

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I think that what we're doing 
right now is a great benefit in 

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virtue because it's an end 
around between this whole 

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corrupt informational system, 
media system. 

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We claim to believe in a God who
spoke the universe into 

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existence and literally raised 
himself from the dead, and yet 

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we are not going to believe that
anything else exists in the 

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spirit realm, even though his 
word tells us that they do. 

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Their bodies weren't permitted 
to go to sleep like humans do, 

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and they weren't permitted to go
to heaven, so they wander the 

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earth. 
You know, I've seen the eyes 

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turn black to unknown tongues 
being spoken. 

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These giants would live way up 
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The old Braves, the young men, 
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They'd wait for one of these 12 
footers to come walking down the

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bath and they would jump on them
and kill them, drag them back in

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the village, and the village 
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Then people start to get 
weapons, they start to get 

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armor, they start to build 
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their cities. 
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violence everywhere. 
The battle, this war that we are

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at, is not against each other. 
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principalities and these rulers 
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places. 
It's really worthwhile to read 

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the Bible yourself. 
Fear is one of the primary 

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drivers of mind control because 
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captive and resist fear. 
You're going to have a testimony

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that is a justice case against 
the Kingdom of darkness. 

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Welcome back to the Millennial 
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This is Rod, your host. 
Thank you for being here with 

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me. 
I got another awesome episode 

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for you guys. 
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This is Dan's fifth appearance 
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for the records. 
And I think I've said that every

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time he's been on. 
But on this recording, we talk 

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about sheep nations, we get into
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transition into talking about 
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Why is that important? 
Well, you guys will find out and

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a bunch of other really cool 
ideas and topics come up and and

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feed into each other. 
Man, this is one of those fun 

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Dan Duvall episodes where we 
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some really interesting stuff, 
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sharing some insights. 
It's definitely one that you 

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guys will enjoy. 
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great content. 
Next week, you guys can be 

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looking forward to the Canary 
Cry Round Table episode 

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dropping. 
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across multiple platforms. 
This is going to be all over the

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place, man. 
And I've been doing video 

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content, this one in particular.
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Let me catch you guys up on this
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The video episode I did with Dan
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final copy. 
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I'll be uploading some short 
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back and forth. 
But I need to release this 

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episode just an audio because we
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The enemy really did not want 
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He had microphone issues. 
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So, yeah, a lot of things trying
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done. 
Let me do some really quick 

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maintenance, like share and 
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You can find in the details of 
the show notes a link to my 

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book. 
The words are salt. 

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I'm feeling a little bit under 
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You guys can probably hear it in
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Keep me in prayer. 
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but that is temporary. 
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I've been doing a lot of stuff 
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many different projects. 
I'm not going to talk about all 

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of them right now, but plant a 
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You guys, the struggle's real. 
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we're building and trying to do 
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do. 
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donating money and the words of 
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of it is important. 
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one of you out there. 
I think it's about time to jump 

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into this episode. 
I'm ready. 

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Are you guys ready? 
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Hi, I'm Dan Duvall. 
I am the founder of Bride 

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Ministries, also the Bride 
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I have trained dozens of 
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We've built an online 
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kind. 
We run a church here in Katy, TX

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and we have a huge outreach to 
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abuse, mind control agendas, 
extreme trauma, and we're here 

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on the Millennial Mustard Seed 
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Dan, it's an honor to be back 
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your 5th appearance. 
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Just keeps getting more powerful
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goes on, huh? 
Yes it does. 

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It is a wild world my friend. 
There is a lot going on. 

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Yes, well, it's exciting to be 
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I really do feel like with 
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freedom of the spirit to to 
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But I have a couple questions 
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into even what is going on this 
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So let me just start off man, 
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it. 
I'm going to drop the first 

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question. 
You wrote a book early on called

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Sheep Nations. 
This has been something that 

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I've been thinking about and 
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This is powerful. 
This is important. 

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Tell us about the book and then 
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Nations. 
What's going on here? 

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Possibly one of the most 
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asking right now because of the 
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in real time. 
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opening up for a long time. 
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eschatology competing and they 
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You you have a premillennialist 
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post millennialist camp. 
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breakdown into the 
premillennialist being there is 

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1000 year reign of Christ at 
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amillennialist camp that says 
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It's it's just a allegory or a 
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millennialist camp, which 
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that thousand years means, it 
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Christ in, in, in a, in a 
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model varies widely. 
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competing. 
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of folks have come through a an 
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premillennialist, which which 
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millennial reign of Christ. 
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be very, very dark and very, 
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lot of proponents that have 
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pre tribulation rapture. 
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that you have a church that goes
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is awful, but those that are 
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all of that and then they come 
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amillennialist camp and post 
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just complete hogwash. 
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there. 
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camp, you also have people that 
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you can't even make scripture 
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basically erase huge parts of 
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redefine certain components of 
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allegorizing a whole series of 
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We don't like your view. 
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Pre raft rapture, post Trib 
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rapture you have all these 
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And and so God many years ago 
called me to start really 

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looking into these things and he
said, look Daniel, you cannot 

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understand the context of your 
calling until you have a better 

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understanding of what is coming 
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sent. 
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because I realized like, OK, 
let's say, let's say there's a 

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burning building, right? 
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treasure in that burning 
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matchbox. 
So you can either make the fire 

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worse or you can just run away 
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to get injured, right? 
It's so, so the mindset that you

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use is defined by what you think
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you could put this fire out. 
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differently. 
You would say, well, the burning

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building, maybe I'm on 
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the burning building entirely. 
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problem with that mindset. 
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says, well, there is a fire 
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the from the fire hose and 
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that's going to say, I'm going 
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out eschatology is, is, is that 
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matchbox version of the end 
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It's like, well, you can only 
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You, you, you just need to 
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problem, run from the problem, 
be terrified of the problem 

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because the Antichrist is so big
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coming. 
And you, you, you just got to 

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get yourself in the right 
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free. 
And God is like, no, I've 

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actually sent a whole company of
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outreach program to the problem 
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And this is where I get some of 
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Like if you're going to compare 
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an eschatological perspective to
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No, God is not pulling his first
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the Super Bowl. 
He's going to play his a team in

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the Super Bowl. 
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concept behind this pre Trib 
escape route rapture. 

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I you know, on the on the 
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it fails. 
But theologically we can go 

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through verse by verse and break
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Now with that said, Kingdom 
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Sheep Nations, the book that you
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would say a study that spanned 
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So for me, that book was a 
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learning. 
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writing. 
And as I learned more, I would 

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delete and rewrite whole 
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So the the first I think version
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When I finished, it was 445 
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So considering everything that 
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mean it. 
I went through a massive 

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overhaul of belief system in the
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And in order to do that, I read 
everyone's stuff. 

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I sought God. 
I spent a lot of time in the 

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prayer closet and I believe that
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me a lot of keys. 
Not even for that time because I

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wrote the book almost 10 years 
ago, but for the time when the 

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window and the season would open
up that more people could see 

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the possibilities that God was 
downloading into me a decade 

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ago. 
And what are those 

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possibilities? 
I I believe that God has sent in

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a generation of world changers. 
Now we have been dispossessed of

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that inheritance and identity by
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and bad eschatology. 
But what I believe is that we're

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here to occupy until he comes 
period. 

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We don't stop and the the the 
there are other real anchor 

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points that help us to see the 
valid nature of our ministry to 

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this age. 
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of kings. 
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the beginning of the word to the
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situation where the Antichrist 
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or where Satan has more power 
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prayers to God are never less 
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devil is working with. 
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that the power of darkness is 
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can overcome in Christ? 
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certain statements like the 
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Saints of the most High and 
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we're hopeless. 
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persecute us. 
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bullied or mistreated 
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you have people that are 
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don't act right towards us, it 
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suddenly less powerful or is not
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What sheep nations does and and 
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actually expand this logic to 
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inheritance. 
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earth, because Jesus said I'm 
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Gentiles, the nations, they are 
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and start picking some things 
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temple, the millennial reign. 
Like we we, we could go a lot of

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places on this subject, but in a
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sheep nations anchors to Matthew
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of man. 
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and sits, I think it's on the 
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I could pull it up in a second, 
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latter part of Matthew 25, you 
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taking a seat of judgement and 
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going to put nations on his 
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turn to the nations on his right
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He refers to those as sheep and 
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He basically responds by saying 
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ministered to me. 
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visited me. 
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then he says as you've done to 
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you've done unto me. 
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because most people that read 
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judgment of sheep and goat 
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supposed to dig wells in 
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Southeast Asia and Africa, why 
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that don't have the resources to
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governments are so corrupt they 
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themselves. 
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hands and feet of Jesus, which 
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I believe that he who gives to 
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true. 
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an encouragement to engage in 
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impoverished of the world that 
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brethren, that that's an 
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I mean, top to bottom, I think 
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to be honest. 
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What you have in this setting in
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comes and sits. 
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time and there's a judgement 
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out the nations of the earth. 
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This is after Antichrist. 
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global governance. 
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install global governance 
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before me. 
He says, now we're going to sort

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you guys out on the basis of 
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And he says, as you've done to 
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you did unto me. 
What God helped me to understand

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is that this happens on the back
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And I began to understand a 
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I call it the two phase judgment
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So Paul references the judgment 
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his writings in the New 
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And it says that we must all 
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of Christ, that we may receive 
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flesh, whether good or bad. 
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What is presented as a parable 
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sheep and goat nations is a 
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And what you see is God giving a
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that serve. 
Everyone in the parable of the 

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talents is a servant. 
You have a wicked servant, but a

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servant nonetheless, who gets 
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And then you have two faithful 
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and one who gets 5 talents. 
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what was given to them and are 
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does not. 
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blames God and blames the 
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Will that results in a loss of 
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And So what you actually see is 
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a first phase being reflected 
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Whereas God gathers all of those
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at my judgement seat as Jesus, 
the one who redeemed you, the 

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one who paid the price of your 
salvation, I'm now going to give

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reward for your works. 
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work. 
We, we don't earn our salvation 

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by works, but we are rewarded. 
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And then you see him bring the 
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of the nations now into view in 
this judgement. 

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And it's like, OK, we're still 
at the throne. 

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We're still at the, this, this 
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judgement seat of Christ. 
And now Jesus is sorting out the

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nations, because he's. 
Preparing, He's actually setting

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the earth up for a new Christ 
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Jesus at the end physically in 
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So at this juncture, there are 
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that and some that don't. 
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Jesus because you read it word 
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It says nothing about salvation 
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Christ. 
It is entirely based on their 

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interaction with the brethren. 
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The Saints? 
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reward or losing it now becomes 
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the nations. 
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interactions, some nations 
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on the earth and some go into 
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They're just wiped out. 
It's that you cannot continue on

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the face of this earth. 
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is that we do have a point where
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reality. 
Everything changes and God is 

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sorting out the nations. 
But if he is, if he is giving 

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these nations entrance into his 
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in the Book of Revelation 
chapter 20 the devil is released

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from his prison after 1000 years
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of the earth, Gog and Magog to 
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Everyone always asks how in 
Revelation 20 do you have all 

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these saved people at the end of
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go with a premillennialist view 
that are being deceived by Satan

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after they overcame in this age 
by believing in Jesus, it 

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doesn't make any sense. 
But when we look at the sheep 

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nations, those that are judged 
as that enter the Kingdom, those

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that will be ruled over by those
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as the Saints. 
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after 1000 years of future 
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just populating the earth. 
They can totally be deceived and

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they will some of them. 
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heaven, fire down from heaven 
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And then Satan is thrown into 
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So that's Revelation 20 in a 
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Sheep and goat nations answers 
one of the oldest and most 

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profound questions people have 
been asking for years. 

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But but now I, I, I got trapped,
right? 

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And I'll let you take this in a 
in a second. 

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I'm sorry, I'm I just keep 
talking. 

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But the, the idea is that if, if
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this glorious destiny because of
their interaction with the 

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Saints on the base of this 
judgment, that does not happen 

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exclusively at that judgment 
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That is the result of everything
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judgment seat, which means the 
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destiny of nations now, and 
those nations do not ever sign 

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up for the Antichrist agendas, 
which means the New World Order 

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ultimately never fully works. 
But there is a generation in the

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earth to literally, by the 
influence of prayer, fasting, 

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actual works of influence on 
corporations and governments and

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politics and media, steer whole 
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direction. 
And I think that's where we're 

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at in history right now. 
Man, I agree. 

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I agree. 
Check the box. 

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Listen, you know, as you're 
going on, all these scriptures 

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are ringing into mind for me. 
The weapons of our warfare 

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prayer, pulling down 
strongholds, right? 

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We see a generation of willing 
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better than that, right? 
Sheep nations, the meek, 

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reserved power literally 
overlooked, thrown to the 

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wayside. 
You had mentioned, I think on 

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our first interview a few years 
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where there's no exchange, 
there's no trading going on. 

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Like, well, I'll do this. 
You know, if I get this accolade

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or if I get this endorsement or 
if I get this monetary agreement

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signed, then I will come and be 
a part of your vision, Daniel. 

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That's the only way I'm going to
do this. 

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No, that that is not what I 
believe God is showing to the 

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humble servants that are 
literally thirsting for that 

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righteousness hungering after 
his beauty and power to to 

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literally supplant reverse all 
the damage of this Well, for the

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millennial reign, it's going to 
be exactly as he says it is in 

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his word. 
Amazing answer to it, right, 

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you're going. 
On. 

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And I'm just riding the wave 
with you. 

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Like, yeah, I totally get this. 
You know, I think what I'd like 

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to kind of transition into that 
that fits together with sheep 

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nations is just a brief 
understanding of what fivefold 

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ministry is, what I find to be 
interesting. 

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Daniels, many people won't talk 
about this. 

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Yeah, we have armchair 
researchers everywhere who are 

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willing to come up with every 
single name and answer for every

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temple and what it's made of and
location and tribes. 

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But you know, we get into this 
topic where fivefold ministry, 

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how are the brethren you're 
referring to, even in in your 

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first speak piece, how the 
brethren are relating to each 

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other, bearing each others 
burdens and so fulfilling the 

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law, right. 
How we're communicating, how 

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we're building together. 
And and I'm looking at it more 

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and more and going fivefold 
ministry is the arsenal that God

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has given us. 
It's the remedy of what it 

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should look like when brethren 
get together. 

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Can you just speak on that and 
we'll have some other things. 

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Hopefully we'll transition into.
Yeah, well, fivefold ministry is

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something that was noted. 
I mean, I noted this early on in

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my in my journey. 
It wasn't easy to bring it up in

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in a lot of circles. 
And in fact, I had a pastor 

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from, from Cleveland, you know, 
and when I went to Bible school,

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I got my hands on a book by 
Doctor Bill Hemmen and I started

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researching like, and he was 
writing about the fivefold. 

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And I, I, I sent a letter and I 
said, you know, what do you 

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think about some of these ideas 
of these offices? 

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And he's like, oh, well, 
apostles are just missionaries. 

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And, you know, the, the, like 
the prophets are just people 

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that, you know, speak on 
prophetic passages of Scripture 

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with eloquence. 
And you know, I, I was like, OK,

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you know, I, I don't, I don't 
know that that's going to 

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journey for, for me. 
And it didn't. 

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And I mean, and I respect that 
people, you know, everyone's in 

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a different place, but the 
reality is God did not come to 

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set up a social club, right? 
That's not what what God is 

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00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,160
building. 
He, he's not building a place 

452
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,720
where we just come and, you 
know, hang out and, you know, 

453
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,640
have barbecues and, you know, 
feel, feel good about, you know,

454
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320
getting together like, like, you
know, and, and, and, and have 

455
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,240
positive, encouraging words 
based on Scripture, like, like 

456
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,160
that. 
That's fantastic. 

457
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,920
But what Jesus set up is a 
government that that's what he 

458
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,640
set up. 
So all throughout the book of 

459
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,400
Matthew, you, you don't see 
Jesus preaching the gospel of 

460
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,680
Jesus Christ. 
You see Jesus preaching the 

461
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,080
gospel of the Kingdom. 
He just keeps saying the gospel 

462
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,160
of the Kingdom. 
And then he says the Kingdom is 

463
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,160
at hand. 
The Kingdom is at hand. 

464
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:07,760
He's, he spends much less time 
talking about his death, burial 

465
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,400
and resurrection and much more 
time talking about, let me 

466
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:16,800
explain to you the Kingdom that 
I represent. 

467
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:21,160
I am not of this world and 
neither are you. 

468
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,000
And so when we understand a 
Kingdom, what we have to 

469
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,520
understand is that we are first 
and foremost dealing with a 

470
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,360
government. 
It's a, it's a governmental 

471
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,440
structure and it has its own 
order. 

472
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,200
Every government has offices, it
has councils, it has 

473
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,760
administration, it has delegated
power. 

474
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480
And, and, and, and this is where
people get so confused. 

475
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,720
So I'm going to come back around
to fivefold, but but I'm just 

476
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,000
going to give you like, you 
know, Can you imagine trying to 

477
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,880
govern like 3 million people, 
right? 

478
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,520
So let's say you got a very 
small nation under your control,

479
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,400
the 3 million people, you know, 
most nations, 100 million, 

480
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680
hundreds of millions of people, 
but million three all right. 

481
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,800
So Can you imagine if you didn't
have an like a Ministry of 

482
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:13,480
Finance and, and, and a ministry
of, you know, economic 

483
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,080
development and the engineering,
civil engineering, and you know 

484
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,840
this over here, like, and you as
the leader of that nation, 

485
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,560
literally just did everything 
all by yourself. 

486
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,120
You made every decision on how 
business is going to be done, 

487
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,880
every tax policy, you have to 
write it down yourself every 

488
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,240
like, you know, and some people 
think that's how God runs his 

489
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,640
government, that he just does 
everything all by himself. 

490
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,960
And we just sit back and watch 
God do everything by himself. 

491
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,680
And if we have anything to do 
with anything that God is doing 

492
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,760
and we think we do, we are a 
heretic and we need to be 

493
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,080
rebuked quickly because we're 
nothing. 

494
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,600
We're no good lowdown, worthless
Sinner saved by grace, you know,

495
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,960
So take that and eat it. 
And I can't stand what this does

496
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,480
to people psychologically 
because it makes people 

497
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:07,520
dependents and not that we don't
depend on God, but we are like 

498
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,840
it turns people into almost like
victims where it's like if God 

499
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,000
didn't do it, then he wants me 
to be in this mess broken. 

500
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,560
Don't have whatever this and and
the whole thrust of Scripture is

501
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,480
actually collaborate where we 
are yoked together with God and 

502
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,720
when God wants to plow a field 
down, he puts us next to him and

503
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,440
we do it together. 
That's the whole concept of 

504
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Kingdom. 
So so when Jesus sets up his 

505
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,120
body, he's the head. 
But like when I when I go and 

506
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,160
mow my lawn, my head doesn't mow
the lawn. 

507
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,440
My arms do and my legs walk the 
lawnmower. 

508
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,840
That's how it works. 
So we are the body that's doing 

509
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,520
the works of Christ and we when 
we when we dispossess ourself of

510
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,080
that purpose, then we we don't 
understand. 

511
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880
We're part of a government where
there has been delegated 

512
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,640
authority, there is 
administration, there are 

513
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,080
offices. 
And when we understand 

514
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,280
government, we understand. 
OK, well, what are the offices? 

515
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Answer. 
I have given you apostles, 

516
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,760
prophets, evangelists, pastors 
and teachers for the perfecting 

517
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,360
of the Saints, for the work of 
the ministry. 

518
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:19,520
Which means that Jesus delegates
offices with power and authority

519
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:27,280
to then bring a, a training, a 
empowerment from heaven, an 

520
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,640
impartation from heaven to the 
people that are going to be his 

521
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,120
hands and feet in the earth to 
expand on the influence of his 

522
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Kingdom through the earth. 
So that's where, you know, and I

523
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,360
see some people and they're 
like, well, we don't need 5 fold

524
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,760
ministry. 
And it's like, yeah, but you 

525
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,120
look at the mindset and the kind
of impact it produces in a 

526
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080
tangible, real, measurable 
scale. 

527
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,320
And it's far less than those 
that are saying, no, we're 

528
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,640
mapping to the governmental 
structure of heaven in order to 

529
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,120
impose the government of our God
onto the earth. 

530
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,960
Because no one will never save 
men. 

531
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,720
God means to save men, but he's 
going to use men in the process 

532
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,960
of saving men like he he used 
Moses in the process of saving 

533
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,200
Israel and the whole nation was 
delivered with a man like that's

534
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,920
how God delivers nations. 
He finds men and women, he gives

535
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,680
them office, he gives them 
authority, he delegates power 

536
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,480
and and then he has them, you 
know, work in councils. 

537
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,440
He, he, he, he doesn't say 
there, there are. 

538
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,040
Then I'm going to explain 
something else. 

539
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,880
There are some types of 
authority that are delegated to 

540
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,120
individuals and some types of 
authority that are delegated to 

541
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,680
sitting councils. 
And what you delegate to a 

542
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,240
council is far greater in 
authority and power than what 

543
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,760
you delegate to an individual 
because a council in the 

544
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,560
multitude of counselors, there 
is safety. 

545
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,480
So what did God do when He 
wanted to really change things 

546
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,800
in the earth? 
He put offices, but He set up a 

547
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,000
governing body called an 
ecclesia. 

548
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,280
That's church. 
OK, so you know, we call a 

549
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,440
church a social club. 
The church is the ultimate 

550
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,760
resident Supreme Council in 
creation that is here to 

551
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,920
actually reconcile creation to 
1st a state in Christ. 

552
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,600
That is a humongous 
responsibility and that is a 

553
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,400
power that only gets leveraged 
when the council governs as a 

554
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,880
body together. 
Which means now we have to talk 

555
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,120
about unity, one of the 
objectives of the fivefold 

556
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,680
ministry to bring them to the 
unity of the faith, to the 

557
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,960
knowledge of the Son of God, to 
a perfect man, to the measure of

558
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,000
the statue of the fullness of 
Christ. 

559
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,800
So you see, the fivefold 
ministry is actually tasked with

560
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:49,000
unlocking this extreme authority
to bring transformation not just

561
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,040
to nations, cosmic 
transformation. 

562
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,520
And that's something else we 
could talk about because the 

563
00:33:53,560 --> 00:34:00,960
man, man's story in, in, in this
whole dilemma of God is it 

564
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,240
begins in the middle. 
We are not actually the 

565
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,840
beginning. 
Adam and Eve are not the 

566
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,480
beginning of the story. 
They, they are the middle of a 

567
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,440
story that is, is spanning and 
is a much larger conversation. 

568
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,440
And so with all of that said, 
yeah, you have apostles, 

569
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,480
prophets, evangelist pastors and
teachers and, and, and the 

570
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:26,679
Apostolic figures, they are 
builders and planters and they 

571
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:31,760
serve as they found they they 
serve as a foundation for what 

572
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,679
God builds as a structure in the
spirit. 

573
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,880
The Bible says that, you know, 
being built upon the foundation 

574
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,880
of the apostles and prophets, 
Jesus Christ himself being the 

575
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,280
chief cornerstone. 
So so an apostle is a load 

576
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,880
bearing component of a spiritual
structure immovable that that 

577
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:58,040
that that that that has signs 
that demonstrate the office they

578
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,960
occupy signs, wonders and 
miracles and and fruit. 

579
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,480
You also have prophets, but but 
prophets do speak the word of 

580
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:16,040
the Lord like Rhema word they 
they get the word of the Lord 

581
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:21,320
for the season for nations, for 
communities, for individuals, 

582
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,720
all of the above. 
They often are working together 

583
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,640
and closely with those that are 
called to build because prophets

584
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,600
and apostles they when when it 
all alliance create like an 

585
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,760
unstoppable force. 
It's, it's very powerful. 

586
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,680
And then you do have pastors. 
Pastors are shepherds. 

587
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,480
They take care of the needs of 
the flag. 

588
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Because, you know, look, I'm 
sitting up here, I told my whole

589
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,960
church, I'm, I'm, I'm an 
Apostolic figure planting a 

590
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,840
local church. 
And I mean, I am I, you know, 

591
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000
that's why I'm a builder and I'm
a spearhead. 

592
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,040
And that's what God uses me to 
do. 

593
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,160
And I don't know. 
But you know, it's like if you 

594
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,920
don't have, if all you have is, 
is, is penetration into new 

595
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,280
territory, all you have is 
pioneering and you don't have 

596
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,320
care. 
People have a hard time with 

597
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,480
that. 
You need pastoral care to 

598
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,160
maintain a move of God that is 
pioneering. 

599
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,600
You need people that have the 
needs and the desires and and 

600
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:34,280
and even the limitations and 
concerns of the people in their 

601
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,520
hearts that are looking over 
that and providing backstops and

602
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,520
support in those areas. 
Pastors or shepherds, 

603
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,720
evangelists, they they are there
because there is always a need 

604
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:52,880
to bring in new sheep to the 
fold of Jesus Christ. 

605
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,480
There are so many people that 
need to be reached and an 

606
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,040
evangelist are uniquely graced 
to do that. 

607
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,960
And it is their DNA, it is their
wiring. 

608
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,680
And they often move in science 
wonders and miracles when 

609
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,720
they've accepted the office. 
You know, you can do things with

610
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,600
an office and you can do things 
without an office. 

611
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,080
And I I've a personal examples 
of that. 

612
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,120
I was terrified of the Apostolic
office. 

613
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,360
I said, you know, early on I was
like, I don't want it. 

614
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,200
That's scary to me. 
I'll hurt people with that 

615
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,040
thing. 
And what happened was, is I 

616
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,280
refused the office I was 
assigned. 

617
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:34,000
I was actually operating from a 
weakened state that caused more 

618
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,200
pain in the long run. 
When I finally accepted the 

619
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,000
office, and you know, I'm going 
to sit in that seat and I'm 

620
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,200
going to embrace this office, a 
grace came on me. 

621
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,600
And what that means is it's 
God's divine enablement and 

622
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,560
partnership with, with the 
resources of heaven in a way 

623
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,920
that only is permitted once you 
have aligned with the office 

624
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,840
you've been assigned in your 
heart like, and so, so, so 

625
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,320
evangelists, they, they, they 
receive the office, the signs, 

626
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,840
wonders and miracles will begin 
the flow. 

627
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,640
I mean, it's extraordinary to 
watch and a lot of fun and 

628
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,560
teachers they, they are so, so 
concerned with making sure 

629
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,720
people are grounded in the word.
It's, you know, one of the easy 

630
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,880
ways to explain fivefold 
ministry, just in a very 

631
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,960
oversimplified way, is like, you
know, the, the, the, the, the 

632
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,680
teacher is like the pinky 
finger. 

633
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,720
The pastor is like the ring 
finger because they're married 

634
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,840
to the body. 
The evangelist is like the 

635
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,360
middle finger because, you know,
they they are an outreach. 

636
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,440
The prophet is like the pointer 
finger because they do get in 

637
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,240
the face of people and nations 
and, you know, at different 

638
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,760
times they they have that 
calling. 

639
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,080
And, and the apostle is like the
thumb that touches all four and 

640
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,360
holds the whole thing together. 
So if you're going to hold and 

641
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,960
rule and reign with a scepter, 
you need the thumb to close the 

642
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,640
gap and, and and, and hold the 
rulership. 

643
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:56,440
So yeah, I mean, there you go. 
Jumping out of my chair over 

644
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160
here. 
Exactly, exactly right. 

645
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,800
I mean way more thoroughly than 
I was even able to attempt to 

646
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,040
answer Recently. 
I did a round table episode with

647
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,480
the days of Noah podcast guys, 
and we're doing what was called 

648
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,440
a deconstruction and a 
reconstruction. 

649
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,520
Just looking at literally 
fivefold ministry, looking at 

650
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,680
not going to get into it here 
with you, but but the listeners 

651
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,640
are going to hear your responses
and go this bolts in. 

652
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,400
It's an accelerated, heightened 
answer to what really many of us

653
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,200
are looking for. 
We're really looking for better 

654
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,760
answers and, and rightfully 
dividing the word according to 

655
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,160
the power of the Ruach instead 
of it being, oh, this is my 

656
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,880
seminary detail and I'm only 
able to exclude this information

657
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,760
based on my certificate. 
No, we want it to be led by the 

658
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,960
power of the living God. 
He is the ultimate teacher, as 

659
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,880
the Bible says. 
Dan, I want to kind of scoot 

660
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,960
into two different topics. 
Now. 

661
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,840
I don't want to spend a terrible
amount of time on Melchizedek 

662
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,440
because that's going to require 
a whole episode. 

663
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,040
I don't want to spend a whole 
lot of time on Metatron. 

664
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,480
I have questions on him too. 
That's going to require a whole 

665
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,600
nother episode. 
But if we could briefly go over 

666
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,520
and even cliffhanger, if you 
feel LED, let's talk about 

667
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,840
Metatron and Melchizedek. 
What's What's popping? 

668
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,440
With these titles. 
I know, I know it's loaded 

669
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,680
because it's like, yeah, that's 
going to be a four part series 

670
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,960
just to lay the foundational 
work. 

671
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,760
But unfortunately these are 
questions that are being asked, 

672
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,320
right? 
And I believe that caused 

673
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,440
drumming up a little bit of 
excitement and you may be 

674
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,240
dropping a couple gems. 
We'll get some people directed 

675
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,520
towards your past teachings 
regarding your your elongated 

676
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,320
series that goes over this, but 
just fill us in. 

677
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,520
What is going on with these two 
names that are echoing out of 

678
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,120
great interest among the body 
right now? 

679
00:40:49,800 --> 00:41:00,120
Melchizedek was the priest king 
that Abraham gave a tithe of all

680
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,560
to when he returned from the 
conquest of kings. 

681
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Melchizedek was a contemporary 
of Abraham. 

682
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,080
He was a contemporary of Nimrod.
They were all alive at the same 

683
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:21,360
time in that post flood world. 
We don't know a lot about 

684
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,680
Melchizedek from the Old 
Testament beyond the fact that 

685
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,880
his name literally means the 
King of Salem and we know that 

686
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,640
he's a king priest. 
We get a lot more on him from 

687
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,200
the New Testament because Jesus 
Christ comes after the order of 

688
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,680
Melchizedek and he becomes our 
King of Kings and our High 

689
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,800
Priest. 
And so he is a priest like 

690
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Melchizedek. 
And and so he reinstates the 

691
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:59,240
Melchizedek priesthood in a 
sense, because for a long time 

692
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:04,040
the Bible articulates the works 
of the Levitical priesthood. 

693
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,320
So I mean, you have a lot of 
other priesthoods that are for 

694
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,400
false gods. 
You know, they all have their 

695
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,880
own priesthoods and their 
temples and everything else. 

696
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,560
And then and then and then 
Yahweh, Yahoo of God, he has the

697
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,480
Levitical priesthood in 
operation. 

698
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,240
And I mean, there's a lot of 
problems with that group. 

699
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,800
So Jesus comes, he basically 
says I'm going to take the 

700
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,920
Kingdom of God away from you and
give it to a nation producing 

701
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,640
the fruits thereof. 
The next thing we know, Jesus 

702
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,240
Christ is high priest. 
He's king. 

703
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,800
He is taking on that role and 
then we are the priesthood of 

704
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:49,040
believers, priesthood of 
believers, priesthood of 

705
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:55,400
believers, priesthood of 
believers priesthood. 

706
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,240
You do have a lot that that can 
be extrapolated because, you 

707
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,560
know, you get to the New 
Testament and and there's a 

708
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,400
passage about Melchizedek that 
says he is without father or 

709
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,760
mother, without beginning of 
days or end of life. 

710
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,520
And, and, and this is one of the
more enigmatic portions of 

711
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Scripture because you have to 
ask yourself why? 

712
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,040
What is this guy doing? 
And why would it say this about 

713
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,000
him? 
Now, if you read the Book of 

714
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,440
Jasher, which is a 
pseudopigraphy work, it actually

715
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:37,760
tells you who Melchizedek is. 
It says it's Shem, as in Shem, 

716
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,520
Ham and Japheth. 
Those are Noah's three sons. 

717
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,680
And so the Book of Jasher 
actually just comes out and says

718
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,440
Melchizedek was Shem, and 
Melchizedek received the office 

719
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,840
of priests from Noah, his 
father. 

720
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,280
And so it was actually Shem that
Abraham is paying tithes and 

721
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,200
offerings to. 
And it's like, OK, maybe, maybe,

722
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:07,080
but that does become a little 
difficult, right when, when when

723
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:15,200
we look at the book of Hebrews 
and it says, you know, he, he 

724
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,520
doesn't have a father or mother 
or beginning of days or end of 

725
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,920
life. 
And So what you have to say is 

726
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:26,200
kind of like, well, maybe the, 
the office itself doesn't have 

727
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,440
those things, because if it was 
Shem, he certainly had a father 

728
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:35,040
whose name was Noah. 
Now, I think that there's 

729
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,000
different ways to go about this.
And, and at the end of the day, 

730
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,760
we'll find out eventually what 
the the truth is. 

731
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:54,120
Melchizedek may have also been 
some kind of angelic figure of 

732
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,440
sorts, not that is in like not 
fully like just human person 

733
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,520
that was fulfilling that role at
that time. 

734
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Or it may have been shown, who 
knows. 

735
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,480
But the end of the the day, this
is a role and office that that 

736
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,280
has everything to do with Jesus 
and what he's doing in the New 

737
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,720
Testament now. 
So, so with that said, I mean, 

738
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:19,360
that's a that's a brief on 
Melchizedek. 

739
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:25,000
And then and the Menotron 
Metatron is, according to 

740
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,240
Kabbalistic texts, the 
resurrected, not resurrected, 

741
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,480
the ascended Enoch. 
That's what they say. 

742
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,400
And is that true? 
Well, I don't think so at all. 

743
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:45,120
I, I, I think that Kabbalah is a
source of poison in the body of 

744
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,200
Christ. 
Absolutely. 

745
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:51,360
I agree. 
And the Kabbalistic texts should

746
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,320
be avoided as a source of 
doctrine at at all at all costs.

747
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,720
And and and and and because Oh 
my gosh, you know, and I did a 

748
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,600
whole 12 part series to try to 
try to break this down, but you 

749
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,560
know, in a nutshell, you know, 
Kabbalah underwrites a lot of 

750
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,360
Freemasonry in the Illuminati 
themselves. 

751
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,640
They use Kabbalah as a 
programming template. 

752
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,560
They use the Kabbalah as a 
programming template in the 

753
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,920
Jesuit order. 
It is a revealing of mysteries 

754
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,960
and, and even the I would call 
it the Babylonian mystery 

755
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,520
religion, which is a sex cult 
based on the worship of the 

756
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,360
phallus. 
And there's several things about

757
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,320
Kabbalah. 
It is absolutely a sex cult and 

758
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,280
its core belief structure. 
But you wouldn't see that all 

759
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,760
with all of the layers looking 
outward towards what we would 

760
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,160
look at as Jewish mysticism, 
which is what most people 

761
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,880
understand Kabbalah as, right. 
So I have a 12 part series. 

762
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,200
I can get into all of that. 
But but Metatron, they would 

763
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,320
say, well, that's just the 
ascended Enoch, that that 

764
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,360
doesn't come from anything in 
Christianity at all, that that 

765
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,480
comes from Kabalist, straight up
Kabbalistic texts. 

766
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:07,040
And the truth is when we begin 
to break it down, Metatron 

767
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:14,080
becomes something they call the 
microprosopus, which is 

768
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,680
basically the, the center part 
of the Lyrianic Kabbalistic tree

769
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,200
of life. 
And that is a, it's a, it's 

770
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,800
essentially A6 pointed star 
whose top is at dot, which is 

771
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,040
it, It aligns with the throat 
when they map it to the human 

772
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,640
body. 
But it, it's bottom is that you 

773
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,480
said, which it corresponds to 
like the sex organs. 

774
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,960
And then you have two other so 
people could look up. 

775
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,360
I, I, I, I like when I talk 
about it in teachings, I like to

776
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,880
pull up the trees. 
So I could say, no, this is what

777
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,040
I'm talking about. 
You would have to reference it, 

778
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,480
but you know, basically it, when
you look at the six points of 

779
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,400
this part of the Lurianic 
Kabbalistic tree of life, it 

780
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,680
forms the diagram for the star, 
what we call the Star of David, 

781
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,960
which is actually the star of 
R.E.M. 

782
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,680
Pham. 
It's a six pointed *2 triangles 

783
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,440
inverted and it also can 
assemble into a hypercube. 

784
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,360
And so when they when they refer
to something they call 

785
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,720
Metatron's cube, the idea is 
that you use a Merkabah. 

786
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:19,200
This is Merkabah mysticism. 
You, you, you astral project by 

787
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,480
forming in your mind essentially
2 pyramids that are inverted 

788
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,200
like that six pointed star. 
You spin them in opposite 

789
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,800
directions. 
It pulls the soul out of the 

790
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,840
body and they ascend into this 
Metatron's cube, which is a 

791
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,280
hypercube. 
And they use it to go into some 

792
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,560
of the other dimensions. 
Right. 

793
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,680
So this is, this is Merc of all 
mysticism. 

794
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,240
It's basically astral 
projection. 

795
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,160
It's, it's, it's not holy at 
all. 

796
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,000
This is a counterfeit. 
Dangerous territory, it doesn't 

797
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,600
sound. 
Good counterfeit ascension 

798
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,360
protocol. 
Stay as far away from it as you 

799
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,760
can because it'll take you into 
Dark Brown's counterfeit 

800
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,480
councils. 
You're going to have encounter 

801
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,800
that's going to put you in 
bondage. 

802
00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:59,720
But the the reality is Metatron 
is a figure that they believe is

803
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:05,960
the husband of the Shekinah, 
which which is the the the wife.

804
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,000
And so Shekinah becomes 
associated with Malkut, which is

805
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,720
the Kingdom or earth that's at 
the bottom. 

806
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:18,360
But when you really study out 
their revelation of Metatron, 

807
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,800
Metatron becomes the 
microprosobus. 

808
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,200
He is the Metatron's cube. 
That part of the thing, which 

809
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:27,640
also corresponds to a figure 
they call Meshiak Ben Yosef, 

810
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,320
which they say is the driving 
force behind political Zionism, 

811
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,400
which is the power that's 
working with the Rothschilds and

812
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,880
other Illuminati families to 
create counterfeit, what I would

813
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,880
call counterfeit timelines in 
the earth to drive their agendas

814
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,920
through God's Word. 
And, and at the end of the day, 

815
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,200
when you study out Meshiak Ben 
Yosef, what you realize is he is

816
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,880
the same guy that our apostle 
Paul referenced when he says the

817
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,360
man of sin, the son of Perdition
in Second Thessalonians chapter 

818
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,360
2. 
It's the same guy. 

819
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,440
And his wife is Shekinah, which 
is the counterfeit bride. 

820
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,440
And what you're dealing with is 
an Antichrist spirit here. 

821
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:12,720
And so should people look to 
this Metatron as some kind of 

822
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:16,720
good Angel encounter, something 
to desire or pray for or 

823
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:19,160
interact with? 
I would say that is that is the 

824
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,520
humongous deception that and by 
the way, if you didn't know this

825
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,240
for all of you guys that have 
sang songs to Shikai to bring 

826
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,280
this up in the our advance. 
I'm not burn some toes here, but

827
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,640
if you really study Shekinah, 
Shekinah is not the word for 

828
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,600
glory that is used throughout 
the Old Testament at all. 

829
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Never in the Hebrew Bible is 
Shekinah used in reference to 

830
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,240
the glory of God. 
Even the glory of the temple of 

831
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:41,800
Solomon. 
It's Kabal. 

832
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,200
Kabal is the word that is used 
in the New Testament. 

833
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,160
It is doxa. 
There's a few other words 

834
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,040
translated glory at different 
points. 

835
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,720
None of them are Shekinah. 
Shekinah is from Jewish texts 

836
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:56,080
only. 
Shekinah has all kinds of things

837
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,680
associated with it, including if
you read an actual Hebrew 

838
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,840
invocation of Shekinah, you will
find Shekinah reference as the 

839
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,320
queen of heaven. 
OK like as in the same queen of 

840
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,800
heaven that is the harlot of 
Babylon, the same queen of 

841
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,280
heaven that is Ishtar, the same 
queen of heaven that is the same

842
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,360
queen of heaven that is 
Aphrodite. 

843
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,680
I mean, and she has the same 
characteristic which is the 

844
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,680
mother wife complex. 
And so you see Shekinah in 

845
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:29,280
Hebrew or these Jewish texts 
being regarded as not only a 

846
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:35,040
wife, she tried to become a wife
to, I believe it was Abraham. 

847
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:41,840
Later on you see that she is 
taking on the role of mother of 

848
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Moses, taking credit for pushing
the basket of Moses to Pharaoh's

849
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,920
daughter. 
So so it it it, it gets 

850
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,800
described as a mother. 
But later on in Moses life, the 

851
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:02,640
Shekinah becomes the female 
presence that literally 

852
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,320
satisfies Moses when he is away 
from the presence of his wife. 

853
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,840
Yes, intimately she becomes a 
spirit wife. 

854
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,120
So she's the mother wife of the 
prophet of God, the the man of 

855
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,680
God that leads Israel out of 
captivity. 

856
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,160
And it's that same mother wife 
complex that you see with the 

857
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,040
Madonna all throughout history. 
The Shekinah is is not holy at 

858
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,560
all. 
This thing is bad news. 

859
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,840
Triggering Jezebel. 
Jezebel ring a bell in 

860
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,760
conjunction with this. 
I mean, that's what's triggering

861
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,080
for me, it sounds. 
Oh. 

862
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,080
My gosh. 
Yeah, yeah. 

863
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,080
Look, these female spirits are 
about as bad as they get. 

864
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,120
Jezebel, Lilith, Queen of 
Heaven. 

865
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,320
I mean, they all have their own 
dynamics. 

866
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,760
But yeah, I look, look, what I'm
saying is if you really dig down

867
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,760
into Shekinah and where that 
term comes from, you're going to

868
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,080
run into the same things I'm 
telling I'm, I'm just telling 

869
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,000
what you're going to run into. 
It's dark and it's it, it's 

870
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,240
total confusion on the, the 
truth of God's Word. 

871
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:06,520
So, so anyway, yes, Metatron not
a good guy. 

872
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,960
Jesus Christ is our high priest.
And the way we started this is 

873
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:17,400
like the sheep nations and, and 
the whole entire essence of 

874
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,320
love. 
Do not underestimate the power 

875
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,200
of love. 
Because when we scale into a 

876
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,520
little bit of the Metatron, 
there's a reason I asked about 

877
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,800
Melchizedek and Metatron side by
side because I knew it. 

878
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,800
We're going to land here. 
I'm hoping that this is what's 

879
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,080
relevant in the mind of the 
listener is that there's one 

880
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,000
narrow gate. 
There's one way. 

881
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,280
So when we're loaded that, you 
know, systematically 

882
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,440
compartmentalizing all of this 
information with Metatron and 

883
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,560
New Age and all these other 
practices, what are they always 

884
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,840
absent of you guys? 
I want, I want you to think 

885
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,160
about that as a listener. 
The motive to be self 

886
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:57,640
sacrificial, to literally be 
meek, prefer other people as 

887
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,040
greater than yourself. 
It's absent of all of that. 

888
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,440
It's driven by like a hunger and
a thirst. 

889
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,800
You know, this is what I found 
interesting about even the UAP 

890
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,480
disclosure that's been taking 
place recently. 

891
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,280
Dan, there was severely 
provocative statements that came

892
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,480
through. 
I'm reading between the line, 

893
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,240
I'm communing with the spirit 
and I'm listening through. 

894
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,480
And one of the questions that 
were asked to these gentlemen 

895
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,800
that are doing disclosure was 
wouldn't it be beneficial for 

896
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,560
America to obtain any 
information and technology from 

897
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,560
these unidentified aerial 
phenomenons before a proposed 

898
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,600
enemy would as being like Russia
or China? 

899
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,000
I'm paraphrasing here, but bear 
with me. 

900
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,360
What was responded is it would 
be greatly beneficial for us to 

901
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,680
gather any and all information 
from these extra dimensional 

902
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,480
terrestrial, whatever you want 
to call them entities for the 

903
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,080
safety of the American people. 
And what and immediately what 

904
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,080
happened to my spirit is God was
showing me that the mystery, 

905
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:59,000
just like with Metatron, the 
mystery that the longing for the

906
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,720
veneration of everything other 
than what God shows us, the 

907
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:05,240
hunger and thirst for those 
things being literally erected 

908
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:07,560
in the town square. 
Getting that curiosity and that 

909
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,440
spirit up in people. 
That's the dark and dangerous 

910
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,000
path. 
Because what does that not 

911
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,960
qualify as an active daily 
participant? 

912
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,280
Dying to your flesh, wrestling 
with your flesh, laying it down 

913
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,040
right? 
It's everything other than that.

914
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:25,120
It's my knowledge puffeth up 
right and hopefully the 

915
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,840
listeners understand that Dan, I
know you understand the spirit 

916
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,560
that I'm coming up. 
There's a comparison here. 

917
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,840
There's a we're we're looking at
it. 

918
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,800
There's one way one narrow gate.
It is be a sheep nation, not a 

919
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,320
goat nation. 
People read Dan's book. 

920
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,960
Even though it's 10 years old, 
the relevancy of it is is 

921
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,840
superlative to many other topics
right now, Dan, I'm going to 

922
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,280
kind of transition into a couple
different questions I have. 

923
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:52,600
I'm going to do these two side 
by side like I did the last two 

924
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,960
and it's living water and the 
millennial reign. 

925
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,040
I just want to talk about those 
two and and just see where the 

926
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,280
freedom of the spirit takes you 
with those two topics. 

927
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,960
I know, I'm sorry, I do this to 
you all the time. 

928
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,320
You're like, I have an 18 part 
teaching on that. 

929
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,840
Condense it into 14 minutes, 
Dan. 

930
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,000
But hey, this is this is the 
time we're allotted. 

931
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,720
So look, the living water, the 
Bible says in the book of 

932
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:24,960
Jeremiah, You have forsaken me 
fountain of living waters and 

933
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,920
hearing for yourselves cisterns,
broken cisterns that can hold no

934
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,960
God himself is the source of 
living water. 

935
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,960
It's like, you know, one of the 
things I I I came out with when 

936
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,920
I did our series on elementals 
is God is actually an elemental 

937
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,120
spirit and that freaked people 
out. 

938
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:46,360
No, because he is an all 
consuming fire. 

939
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:52,160
He is a rock. 
He is Ruach Hakodesh, the holy 

940
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,840
wind, and he is living water. 
Yeah. 

941
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,760
What does that make him? 
An elemental being? 

942
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,560
Don't have a problem, but it's 
literally what the Bible says. 

943
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:07,240
So one of his expressions is 
that living water. 

944
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:09,280
And that living water flows as a
river. 

945
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,280
It flows from his throne. 
Revelation chapter 21 describes 

946
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,560
the river coming and flowing 
through the tree of life that 

947
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:26,000
sits on either side of its St. 
It is described as coming out of

948
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,520
Ezekiel's temple in Ezekiel 40 
through 48, and really 

949
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:36,360
specifically in in chapter 47. 
And so I did a whole series on 

950
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:43,280
Ezekiel's temple because that 
temple is such a major question 

951
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,880
mark on the, on the whole body 
of, of, of text in the 

952
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,640
Scripture. 
And it's so confusing. 

953
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,440
And depending on your 
interpretive model of 

954
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,360
eschatology, I mean, you, you, 
you can put yourself in a box 

955
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,280
on, on Ezekiel's temple real 
easy. 

956
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:03,160
I mean, because how do you make 
room for a temple where animal 

957
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:10,480
sacrifices occur in a context of
a finished work of Jesus Christ 

958
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,560
because the temple was never 
actually built? 

959
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,440
And why does that same temple 
where animal sacrifices are 

960
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,600
happening, which to us in this 
age would seem to be a total 

961
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:27,000
abomination, have a river of 
living water that is God flowing

962
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,800
from it, bringing healing 
everywhere it goes? 

963
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,880
And one of the even bigger 
questions is how is it that it 

964
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:40,400
goes and heals the sea? 
When we read in Revelation 21, I

965
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,840
saw a new heaven and a new earth
and there was no more sea. 

966
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,440
And you know, you end up with 
all of these question marks all 

967
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,360
over the place. 
And it becomes a really complex 

968
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,680
conversation, hence a multi 
series. 

969
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:58,160
Look, I, I, I, I had to unpack 
this over weeks of teaching. 

970
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,400
Like though we can make sense of
all of these things. 

971
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,680
And it does make sense if you 
look at it like this. 

972
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:09,880
Well, here's a few thoughts. 
Here's a few thoughts #1 I 

973
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,520
believe that the river of living
water right now is active and we

974
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,600
use the river of living water 
all the time. 

975
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,560
We use we, you know, just like 
you'll see some ministers and 

976
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,720
they'll go down the line and 
they'll say be, you know, fire 

977
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,480
of God. 
And they'll pray for people that

978
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,160
they have, you know, I pray for 
people that their brokenness 

979
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,200
gets swept up in the rivers of 
living water and healed because 

980
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,640
the Bible says that we are 
washed by the water of this 

981
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,360
word. 
And you know, it's a very 

982
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,880
powerful healing tool and 
ministry tool. 

983
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,480
Like just like we can plead to 
the blood of Jesus, we can call 

984
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:51,960
upon the living water of God. 
And it works wonders in the 

985
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,880
spirit world. 
I mean, it is supremely powerful

986
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,320
right now. 
And even though you don't 

987
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,680
necessarily see it physically, 
you can open up. 

988
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,120
I mean, we've had many meetings 
where the river of living water 

989
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,200
opened up and spiritually it was
there. 

990
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,360
And we're like in the spirit 
world, just drinking and dancing

991
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,520
in the water. 
But physically it's not there. 

992
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,440
It's it's in the spirit so so we
can interact with these things. 

993
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,880
The River of Living Water, in my
experience, has been one of the 

994
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,880
most useful tools in bringing 
healing to different areas when 

995
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,360
we're called to the cosmic 
sphere because it can be caused 

996
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,200
to flow through whole planets 
and stars and bring cleansing 

997
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,560
and healing and redemption to 
that and so on, on many levels. 

998
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,640
I mean, we have only barely 
begun to tap the power of, of, 

999
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,560
of living water as a healing 
resource from God for this 

1000
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,040
present time. 
One of the things I love to do 

1001
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,680
in deliverance sessions is I 
will take an entity because we 

1002
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,360
deal with so many hybrid 
spirits. 

1003
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,600
What that, what does that mean? 
That means it's humanity, like a

1004
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,360
piece or fragment of human soul 
that's woven together, literally

1005
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:01,320
knitted with a demonic entity. 
And so it's both combined and 

1006
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,920
often times when we run into 
these in people, it might 

1007
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,240
manifest. 
I'll have angels just bind them,

1008
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,880
put them in a box filled with 
living water mixed with oil of 

1009
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,200
anointing and the blood of 
Jesus. 

1010
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,920
Like I'll and and the person 
will actually come back to 

1011
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,320
presenter. 
They'll be able to see this 

1012
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,160
happening in a spirit world. 
They'll be like, Oh my gosh, 

1013
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,360
that alligator looking pig faces
in a box. 

1014
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,360
And I'm like, yeah, of course it
is because you know, that's the 

1015
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,880
power of Jesus Christ, right. 
So then we'll take it apart will

1016
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,040
actually pull the humanity out 
of the demonic. 

1017
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,160
Because you know, one of the 
things that water does even in 

1018
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,000
the natural is it it's ionized. 
So it separates things. 

1019
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,000
You have a pan, you put it in 
water and it begins to loosen 

1020
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,280
all of the baked on, caked on 
crud because the water's 

1021
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,560
ionized, positive, negative. 
Well, you can just imagine what 

1022
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,720
that does in the spirit world. 
It pulls apart holy and unholy. 

1023
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,160
So we get people delivered with 
living water all the time. 

1024
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,880
I mean, it's extremely potent. 
I love it. 

1025
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,880
And it, you know, I've seen 
deliverance seconds take it from

1026
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,360
an hour to a minute when you 
know what you're doing with 

1027
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,720
God's resources. 
So OK, living water for now, but

1028
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,480
living water in the future, 
there will be actual living 

1029
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,320
water that physically flows from
what I believe will be Ezekiel's

1030
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,960
temple. 
I think that Ezekiel's temple is

1031
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,480
going to be for a specific 
purpose relevant to the coming 

1032
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,680
age. 
And what is that coming age? 

1033
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,520
You're going to have a whole 
attempt at global governance, 

1034
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,320
try and fail, and it's going to 
get interrupted by the actual 

1035
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,960
return of Jesus Christ. 
You will have the beast and a 

1036
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,680
false prophet cast into the lake
of fire. 

1037
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,440
There will be an Armageddon that
is a local war. 

1038
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,040
That's not the whole planet 
blowing up. 

1039
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,160
And it's going to be a bloody 
mess. 

1040
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,360
But then it'll be cleaned up 
because the vultures will eat it

1041
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,120
up. 
And then God is going to reward 

1042
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,760
his people. 
He's, he'll judge the nation. 

1043
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,600
And then you have a whole group 
of nations, like I said at the 

1044
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,280
beginning of this podcast, 
they're going to, they're going 

1045
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,560
to actually enter into that next
age where Jesus is ruling a 

1046
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,280
reigning, but they're going to 
enter it as citizens, not as 

1047
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,520
Saints. 
Well, in that context, they're 

1048
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,320
going to need a system of 
worship. 

1049
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,840
So what does it say in Zechariah
chapter 14, it says the nations 

1050
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,040
will have to go annually to 
celebrate the Feast of 

1051
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,720
Tabernacles every year. 
Well, how are they going to do 

1052
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:22,800
that? 
Well, there's actually going to 

1053
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,680
be a functional temple on the 
physical earth that's 

1054
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,280
independent of anything else 
that's going on, which I 

1055
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,120
actually believe that this is 
going to be concurrent with the 

1056
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,800
new heaven and new earth and the
the new Jerusalem that's kind of

1057
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,360
like an orbiting sun of earth. 
But we could, OK, I could talk 

1058
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,200
about that later. 
Like I think it's concurrent. 

1059
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,880
But this temple is functional in
that context for these people 

1060
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,360
that are now in an age that is 
not governed by salvation, by 

1061
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,880
grace through faith in Jesus 
Christ, that age has ended. 

1062
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,600
Jesus Christ is physically 
around. 

1063
01:03:55,080 --> 01:04:00,000
It's a completely new age. 
And now we have this temple and 

1064
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:04,240
now we have these people that 
need a temple because they're 

1065
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,680
citizens of the earth. 
They're not Saints of the most 

1066
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,880
high that have glorified bodies 
like we will. 

1067
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,560
And so you see that there is a, 
a situation where a temple like 

1068
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,680
this may have a, a function. 
And so from that temple, the 

1069
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,240
river of living water goes forth
because this temple sits in an 

1070
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,160
interface. 
It's super imposition with the 

1071
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:31,680
heavenly reality. 
And so it, it, it, I mean, 

1072
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,640
there's a lot to say on these 
things, but you will see the the

1073
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,320
river of living water heals 
everything that it touches. 

1074
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,960
And just like prophesied in 
Ezekiel 47, this is going to 

1075
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,960
have some extraordinary 
ramifications. 

1076
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,480
And yeah, I mean, wow. 
Wow. 

1077
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,960
Yeah. 
I mean, I'm looking at Ezekiel 

1078
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,800
47 one through 12 right now and 
the measuring systems that take 

1079
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,560
place. 
We have the 1750 feet and he 

1080
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,240
leaves him across the water 
again and it's at his ankles. 

1081
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,840
And then he goes across the 
water again, it's at his knees, 

1082
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,440
right? 
And it's like the Spirit was 

1083
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:12,840
kind of showing me some hints as
to the millennial reign and this

1084
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,680
temple and this foreshadowing, 
this prophetic Annunciation that

1085
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,840
is yet to even be reoccurrence, 
if you will. 

1086
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,120
So you answered it really well. 
You know, I would just say at 

1087
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,920
this point in time, you know, 
I'd like to plug in. 

1088
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:31,840
Well, I can't even say it that 
way. 

1089
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,480
I've had you in the details of 
my show notes for almost a year 

1090
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,120
with your Bride Ministries app. 
So you're already in what I call

1091
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,120
an MMS recommended resource. 
Everybody knows that you're in 

1092
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,560
all the details of my show 
notes. 

1093
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,920
What is some material, whether 
it be through YouTube or video 

1094
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,600
series, that people can go and 
say I'm blown away? 

1095
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,640
I want to dive deeper into these
topics. 

1096
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,560
Let's do some recommendations 
there where people can find your

1097
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,560
content, and then close this out
with a word of encouragement. 

1098
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,760
All right, so we have a lot of 
you know this. 

1099
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,520
I'm going to be honest, this is 
one of the hardest questions 

1100
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,000
we've been trying to figure out 
for years. 

1101
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,040
Like where do we even start, 
people? 

1102
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,640
The best answer we came up with 
was the school. 

1103
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,720
And so we have a whole 
institute. 

1104
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,280
And what the institute does is 
it takes people through 4 levels

1105
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,600
of teaching, Level 1. 
So we start with foundational 

1106
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:30,920
stuff and work up, and that's at
brianministriesinstitute.com. 

1107
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,040
And it's consolidated. 
So you can go through years of 

1108
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,320
podcasts and teachings and pull 
ideas and concepts together, or 

1109
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,840
you could just get them already 
consolidated for you. 

1110
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,160
And that's what the institute 
does. 

1111
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:47,000
So it's very helpful if you just
worked from any person that 

1112
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,920
works from level 1 to level 4 
and just goes through those 

1113
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,280
courses. 
Grace the realm of Jesus Christ,

1114
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,600
the Kingdom, spiritual warfare, 
mysteries of prayer. 

1115
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,160
And we have all anyway, they're 
they're going to learn a whole 

1116
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,240
lot more than they bargained 
for. 

1117
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:07,960
Now beyond that, we have years 
of sermons and the way that I 

1118
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,760
preach at our church, it's kind 
of, I think different than some 

1119
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,720
church. 
I don't psych like, I don't keep

1120
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:18,120
going back to old stuff because 
as a pioneering ministry, we do 

1121
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:23,600
address, you know, relevant 
things as we go, but every 

1122
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,560
series that we do is almost like
a new book that's opening up. 

1123
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:32,760
So I, I preach topically and I 
will typically do anywhere from 

1124
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,960
4:00 to 12:00 sermons on a 
single subject, breaking it down

1125
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:44,120
over a period of months. 
And we have all of those sermon 

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01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,680
series at bradmovement.com on 
our shop page. 

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01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,160
A lot of them we left up on 
YouTube. 

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,360
Some of them then they're only 
available from our website. 

1129
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,120
But you know, if people are 
looking to really go in a deep 

1130
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,240
dive on one thing, like I 
encourage you to explore a 

1131
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,680
sermon series because like what 
you asked about Ezekiel's 

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01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,640
temple, I mean, that's like 
that's like a thimble of of the 

1133
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,280
information that we walked 
through, the deep depth of the 

1134
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,400
study, the richness of 
everything that was brought 

1135
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:12,880
forth. 
Even, you know, if you were to 

1136
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,720
ask me about the Arkie or if you
were asked me about sheep 

1137
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,880
nations like you did, you know, 
I'm giving sound bites in an 

1138
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,520
interview, whereas there's so 
many answered questions. 

1139
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,319
It's like, but we have a lot, a 
lot of these subjects have a 

1140
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:27,960
corresponding sermon series 
where it's like, no, we went 

1141
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,960
through the gamut. 
And then we have years of 

1142
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,080
podcasts. 
One of the other things that I 

1143
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:39,920
want to let people know is that,
you know, what we do is we dig 

1144
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,640
our heels in deep on actionable 
intelligence. 

1145
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,359
So I'm not an armchair 
theologian where I'm just like, 

1146
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:47,680
I'm just going to sit down and 
make up a wacky idea and try to 

1147
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:52,359
convince people I'm right. 
I'm here because we are. 

1148
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,160
We haven't assigned a task of 
sending the captive St. 

1149
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,439
That's what we do at Bride 
Ministries. 

1150
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,960
We have raised, I mean, we've 
trained dozens of ministers 

1151
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,279
internationally. 
A lot of them still serve with 

1152
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:06,680
us as as coaches at 
brideministriescoaching.com. 

1153
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,720
And they do deep inner healing 
and deliverance deprogramming. 

1154
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,080
We work with the most difficult 
cases. 

1155
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,800
You know, if you've been to 
church and they said you're too 

1156
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,279
tough for us, we want to help. 
Like that's what we're here to 

1157
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:27,160
do. 
And what we learned that brings 

1158
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:32,640
the breakthroughs is what we 
expand upon when we teach. 

1159
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:37,319
So even if an idea sounds far 
fetched or difficult to swallow,

1160
01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:40,359
it's like the reason why we're 
talking about it is because of 

1161
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:42,520
the breakthroughs. 
It produces one of the 

1162
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,439
statements that I made earlier 
that's quite inflammatory. 

1163
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,920
You know, I said the story 
doesn't begin it. 

1164
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,720
Adam. 
Adam's the middle of the story. 

1165
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,880
Well, now there's a lot of other
people that are talking about 

1166
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,240
it. 
You know, Derek and Sharon 

1167
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,880
Gilbert have been talking about 
the pre Adamic world. 

1168
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,320
You have a number of other 
people that are really beginning

1169
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:08,000
to talk about it more. 
And the idea that there is this 

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:13,560
whole pre Adamic problem that 
then Adam gets dropped in the 

1171
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,640
middle of on the 6th day of that
earth, which is really I believe

1172
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:22,640
more of a recreation because 
it's formless and void. 

1173
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,160
But the Bible says in Isaiah God
didn't create it that way. 

1174
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,800
You know, that opens up God's 
plan to redeem his creation 

1175
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,240
through man. 
But it's not the beginning of 

1176
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,200
the story. 
Well, well, what we've been 

1177
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,720
getting into more recently is, 
well, what what does that mean 

1178
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,040
for us before Adam is created as
a human on the earth? 

1179
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,280
And I'll tell you some of the 
deepest deliverances we've been 

1180
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:51,920
getting connect to the 
experience of not our souls, not

1181
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:58,480
our physical bodies, but our 
human spirits as residents of a 

1182
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:06,000
heavenly pre Adamic reality and 
the trauma that the human spirit

1183
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:11,640
went through at the fall, which 
predates Adam's placement in the

1184
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,960
garden. 
Because the conflict is already 

1185
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,040
underway. 
I am telling you, we did this at

1186
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,160
the Bride tribe advance and we 
did a whole teaching and then we

1187
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,680
opened the realm of encounter. 
Hundreds of people. 

1188
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,640
You can fool one or two people 
everywhere you go. 

1189
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:33,320
Hundreds of people stepped in to
encounter with memories from 

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01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:41,600
their human spirit that predate 
Adam and there was corresponding

1191
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:47,360
deliverance and breakthrough. 
And so when we open up a realm 

1192
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:50,280
and we start to talk about it, 
it's because there's fruit. 

1193
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,920
It's because God is setting the 
captives free. 

1194
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,920
And so we also have a whole 
thing, we call it our 

1195
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,080
deliverance portal, where 
deliverance.bridemoving.com 

1196
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,960
people can take assessments. 
You know, we and it's 100% free.

1197
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,160
We don't even send you follow up
emails. 

1198
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,920
Like we don't take an e-mail 
list from that. 

1199
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,240
You just go in and you will take
assessments. 

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01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,200
It'll tell you what prayers to 
use for what problems. 

1201
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,600
And we have, I mean, thousands 
of testimonies all over the 

1202
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,000
world of people being delivered 
of things they didn't even know 

1203
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,800
could be a problem. 
And we're really happy to be 

1204
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,800
able to offer that. 
I, I have a word of 

1205
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:28,640
encouragement. 
And the reality is, you know, we

1206
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,240
are here for such a time as 
this. 

1207
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,760
I, I think, I think we are 
sitting in one of the most 

1208
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,720
consequential generations ever 
sent into the earth. 

1209
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,680
And this is a generation where 
you see what I believe is the 

1210
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:47,400
army of volunteers, many people 
that have come in volunteering 

1211
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:54,080
to be born into some of the most
occult dark bloodlines there are

1212
01:12:54,960 --> 01:13:00,240
in order to overcome and to 
break the cycles. 

1213
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,880
In one generation you have a 
company of people that's been 

1214
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,360
sent in all at the same time. 
Not to just sit here and take it

1215
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,120
and wonder, you know, well, 
when's the New World Order going

1216
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,400
to come so I can dig a ditch and
hide in an underground bunker 

1217
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,560
with some nuts and guns? 
No, I think we're actually here 

1218
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,280
to influence the nations because
the world is going to pick 

1219
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:28,360
sides, but those sides may be 
substantial. 

1220
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,840
I believe whole nations will opt
out of the beast system if the 

1221
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,160
company of people that is sent 
into the world in this day and 

1222
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:42,040
hour takes up their mantle and 
does what their scroll in heaven

1223
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,600
says they are sent here to do. 
The destiny of whole nations are

1224
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:52,480
going to be swayed and the 
Antichrist and his Kingdom are 

1225
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:56,040
going to have more than they 
bargained for and guaranteed 

1226
01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:00,000
failure up until the very end. 
It's not going to be easy. 

1227
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:05,480
It's not going to be reasonable.
But you know, I think that there

1228
01:14:05,480 --> 01:14:07,000
are some people that are going 
to hear this and think I'm 

1229
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,040
absolutely off my rocker. 
And I'll say, you know what, you

1230
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,520
can think whatever you want. 
I'm on scroll and watch what 

1231
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,600
happens. 
And I think more people are 

1232
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,840
waking up and be like, you know 
what, I'm going to get on my 

1233
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,160
scroll too, because I am more 
consequential than I ever 

1234
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,720
realized. 
And that's OK. 

1235
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:26,600
It's OK to be part of a plan 
that goes further than I could 

1236
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,400
have ever imagined. 
Because the Bible says God is 

1237
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:34,080
able to do exceedingly, 
abundantly above all, we can ask

1238
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,400
or think according to the power 
not that works in him. 

1239
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,760
The power that works in US, it's
not. 

1240
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:49,120
God says there's a whitestone 
with a name written on it to he 

1241
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:54,000
who endures and no man know the 
name that is written on that 

1242
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,920
stone. 
We want to hear well done, good 

1243
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,880
and faithful servant. 
That's going to require 

1244
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,640
sacrifice and love and being a 
pioneer. 

1245
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,600
It's going to be uncomfortable 
at times. 

1246
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:12,520
We we pummel the devil more than
he pummels us. 

1247
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,920
As these days go on. 
Dan, I just want to honor you 

1248
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,760
and thank you for your time 
again, your 5th appearance and 

1249
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,800
hoping to the Lord it's not your
last. 

1250
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,320
I think we have more things to 
talk about as the days go on. 

1251
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,480
That's it. 
That's the show you guys. 

1252
01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:30,120
I'm going to ask you to share 
this with your friends, family 

1253
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,040
members, Co workers. 
Share this with your pastor, 

1254
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,720
with your doctor coming to you 
from Southeastern PA. 

1255
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:38,560
God bless. 
And goodbye. 

1256
01:16:27,640 --> 01:17:12,910
Music. 
The. 

1257
01:18:39,240 --> 01:19:01,560
The. 
Music.