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That's tough. We're in a very tough spot.
I think that what we're doing right now is a great benefit in
virtue because it's an end around between this whole
corrupt informational system, media system.
We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into
existence. And literally raised himself
from the dead. And yet we're not going to
believe that anything else exists in the spirit realm, even
though his word tells us that they do.
Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do,
and they weren't permitted to go to heaven.
So they wander the earth. You know, I've seen the eyes
turn black to unknown tongues being spoken.
These giants were way up in the island.
The young Braves, the young men would hide them in the trees.
They wait for one of these 12 footers to come walking down the
bath, and they would jump on them and kill them and drag them
back to the village. And the village would feast on
the body. Then people start to get
weapons. They start to get armor, They
start to build cities. They start to fortify their
cities. Now God looks down and there's
violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are
at is not against each other. It's against these
principalities and these rulers and these archons.
In the high places, it's really worthwhile to read the Bible.
Yourself fear. Is one of the primary drivers of
mind control because we have to take every thought captive and
resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
that is a justice case against the Kingdom of Darkness.
Welcome back to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
I'm your host, Rod and thank you for being here with me.
I have a bombshell episode in store for you guys.
This is a round table episode with.
Chuck and Mav from Fire Theft Radio.
We have Nate from Midnight Mysteries Radio.
He's also the Community Connections director for Mufant
in Canada. And then Enoch Putris From the
rundown of our reality. We dive into a bunch of crazy,
cool topics that are going to be edifying.
They're going to connect some dots for you guys.
Really. I'm interviewing everybody.
On this episode it kind of turns out that I just drop questions.
I just fire questions at these guys and just to see the flow of
the conversation and it's edifying and eye opening and and
everything you would imagine with such an amazing group of
guys joining me for this round table episode.
Also for you guys that love the pre talk conversation.
Not that I've done this many times, but at the very end of
the episode, after the music plays, there's about 10 minutes
of us talking. Maverick leads us in prayer and
just some testimonies and some really cool stuff at the end of
this episode. So if you're into that type of
thing, stick around and you can listen to that conversation as
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Well, welcome back to the show, everybody.
I have an awesome episode in store for you guys.
This is a squad of Christ's representatives.
We are ambassadors for the Kingdom and I'm just want to
introduce everybody here. We have Chuck from Fire Theft
Radio, which you guys are familiar with at this point.
We have Nathan from Canada. He was on last year, so it's an
honor to have him back with us. We have Enoch Cutris from the
rundown of our reality. You guys know exactly who I'm
talking about, and I have the honor of also being here with
Maverick Pilgrim, who teams up with Chuck over on Fire theft
radio. So you guys should know that
voice by now. And gentlemen, it's an honor to
be here with you guys. Thank you.
Thanks for having me. Yeah.
Thanks for having us. On Very glad to be here.
Yeah, man, I'm. I'm super stoked.
I was a little bit like Enoch. I almost didn't get up in time.
I don't know what happened to my alarm here, but it's all good.
It's good Saturday morning. That's it and thanks for
wrapping me out. I just if I said if I go down,
he's gotta go down with me, you know, I mean.
I had a feeling to call Enoch. I was like, I have a feeling I
should call him and make sure he's awake.
I was grumpy Enoch this morning. Or is it regular?
No, no, no, no. You have, you have blessed to be
here, Enoch. And yeah, anyway, I've been.
I've been, as you know I finished the whole chess board
video. So I'm.
I'm feeling good. Yeah, I accomplished it.
So. It's really well done.
Like mind boggling how amazing that whole series is.
Thanks man. Thank you.
It's helpful. There's This is why we're joined
together in the humility of what each one of the ministries God
has given us and why you guys agreed to come here as I believe
the tugging was on your heart. To be like you know what we're
living in strange times. We all have something to bring
to the table and there's people out there that only you can
reach. Map you have something to say.
That there's people only you can reach.
God's giving you a specific wording and a voice to be able
to reach that person. So to be able to join together
and just. I'm gonna ask some questions and
just watch what the Lord does with us being like here I am,
I'm here, Lord. I think that that's super
awesome, man. That's that's like the coolest
thing. So I'm gonna.
I love it how we're just so normally we're quieter than
normal. We're all like, what do we do
with ourselves? I just don't.
Want to sneak over everyone else you know?
Yeah, I know. It's so hard to talk with a
group of people. I feel, I feel like this is this
is big. Like, I feel like a holiness to
us being here right now. Like, seriously, I really do
feel we were born for such a time as this.
And each one of us knows what we're up against.
And we're saying, God, here I am, You've taken me on this
journey, you've equipped me with this information and now we need
to take heed and not be deceived.
And I feel like this is, this is important.
I mean, I want to laugh like I feel like I want to.
Scream, praise God and laugh all at the same time.
It's that feeling of like, man, this is important.
Like it's just, I'm stoked, I'm stoked to be here.
But you guys, I'm just going to Spitfire questions and anybody
just pick them up. There's no order or no craziness
to this. But these are things that I find
relevant with my personal circles, people that I speak
with face to face, skin to skin. There's questions that come from
listeners all around the world at this point, and these are
things that we can touch up on. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna spit the
first one out here. What is really going on with
this alien deception? Anybody grab that?
Nate, I'd like to hear how you open that up, man.
That's that's your Forte. You know, there's there's quite
a few different theories. One of them that I heard
somebody sharing this past this past Thursday night was, you
know, maybe it could lead to a. A false resurrection or I I
personally, in terms of eschatology, I'm a post
tribulation rapture believer. I'm open to to everything else.
I I just trust you know God's going to leave where he's going
to leave. But if there is a Pretrib
Rapture or a Midtrib Rapture, there might be some sort of
false project Blue Beam type abduction that happens with.
A mass group of people, and it's a counterfeit to a real rapture
that God might have in plan. It also wouldn't surprise me if
in the next few months we start to hear theories about, you
know, maybe we came from alien DNA, maybe it was on some sort
of asteroid or meteorite that landed here on Earth and caused
evolution. Maybe there are inceptors or are
creators. I mean, we've heard that theory
for years. We know that Hollywood has a lot
of shadow writers involved, and we've seen those theories in
movies like the Alien movies or in Prometheus, etcetera.
I hear people like Neil deGrasse Tyson who talks about, you know,
the fact that we have hydrogen and nitrogen inside of us that
were made of quote, UN quote star stuff, right, that were
made of things from. The universe.
So it's definitely not just talk behind the scenes anymore in
terms of alien inception and alien biology, but it's starting
to really come forward in in mainstream media as well.
Yeah, I I agree with that and and I I I say this all the time
and that's probably like the thing that people might say like
Chuck is the same, the same stuff over and over.
But for your group, I just, I'm a firm believer that.
He you know Nate said mainstream media that movies entertainment
has been like the biggest way to preach this gospel, this false
gospel to people and in incept you know the brains of of many
and make it part of the culture. And you know, we have all these
things like influencers online like Billy Carson and things
like that that are. Coming out and and you want to
pay attention to them, him and like, what's his name, what's
not the guy's name. He's been around for longer.
He talks about reptilians all the time and the matrix and all
that. See the one that's been on Rogan
recently? What was it?
Who was that? Do you know what?
I can't. Remember the chill?
Oh, no, no, no. It's a he's a conspiracy guy,
but he's like older white gentleman, well spoken, kind of
British. I think he sounds British at
least. But, you know, they've been
talking about these weird stuff for a long time and it's just
kind of like influencing so many people because they have red
pill information, quote UN quote, you know, they have
information that yeah, the government's doing these things
and and yeah, they're they're easy to to fall into the trap
because they say a lot of truths.
But then in the mixed of that they take you away from Christ.
You know, they also say that Christianity is part of the
problem that that that was made by.
These big bodies of control and things like that.
And so it's something to be careful because they do offer
some good answers where maybe the church isn't answering
questions. And so people tend to flock to
those kind of guys that have interesting things to say, but
at the same time they're leading them away from Jesus.
So I I believe this is one of the most important things that
we're trying to do is trying to give a biblical perspective to.
Something that seems completely not biblical in most people's
eyes. And just really, really, really
quick. But even outside of, even
outside of the Bible, even outside of religion and
spirituality, you have the CI A's Project Mockingbird program
that started in the 1919, late 1940s, and it's continued where?
They had shadow writers in news media and in Hollywood to try
and influence people. So again, this isn't a
conspiracy. This is something that's been
historical. Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah. Cuz you know, up until a certain
time you up until recently that this information is more readily
available for people to look up. It seemed like, you know, it's a
conspiracy for sure, but I mean, there's so much disclosure
about. Things that the government did
that at this point, if you don't believe any conspiracy theory,
it's kind of like where where have you been, bro?
Bearing your head, yeah. Yeah.
I I think this a lot of people, I think, who haven't been paying
attention think this is a new thing.
This is something that's been going on for a really long time.
One of the first books that I read when I was sort of opening
up to conspiracy stuff, whatever was crash goes the Chariots.
Which is a response to Chariots of the gods.
So this is sort of a, it was a light debunking.
I'd say light debunking. But they're talking about this
back then. This.
This is not a new thing. This is an old thing that that's
discussed. But you had to go and find it,
right? And I got this other one, Search
of the ancient Gods by Doneken. I mean these things have been
around 60s and 70s is when these were popping up.
This is when they're popular. So, so to say it's new, I don't
think it's new. I think there's a new angle and
I think you have a struggle between groups that are trying
to control the course of a narrative, which is why, OK, so
people say disclosure. That is I think a terrible
title. And I think it's it's it's a
terrible sort of just grab bag of everything because I think
there's a misnomer that the government has one voice.
That there's one disclosure that would come from the government
and the government's multidivided, faceted groups
that are fighting against each other's multiple intelligence
agencies who have agendas, who want to push one more than the
other. And if one discloses too much,
the others have to respond because they'll lose control of
whatever. So I mean you've got so many
other things going on, but what I can see this disclosure is
that's happening now. You know, put in quotes.
Lower case D in quotes. Disclosure is purely focused on
physical, purely focused on physical, physical material.
And I think that's on purpose. It probably goes to what Nathan
was talking about the the angle that they want to release some
of the information because you have to do it step by step.
This is a story and you can't lose everybody Chapter one.
You got to make sure everybody's there.
So you can go to chapter 2 and move on to chapter 3, because if
you don't do that. You put it back into a TV
episodic sort of thing. You lose people after the second
episode, they're gonna cancel the series.
So you can't do that. And this is what it is.
It's released this way on purpose, and I think it's
material focus. And the material focus will move
back in time. This is just my thought because
that will give so much fuel. To people like the the Carson's
and and others to to be able to reposition the past.
But anything that is spiritual multidimensional is going to be
looking forward because you can't have people asking those
questions of the past because you legitimize people who've
worked in the past. You can only ask those questions
in the future so they can control that nerve.
So I think it's it's a. It's a 2 directional.
Kind of thing. Material moving past, spiritual
moving forward. And I think that's on purpose
because I was ranting about this to to Chuck.
There have been people in this space, Christians talking about
this in the space since the 60s, since the 50s, didn't have the
Internet back then. Hard to pull all those things
back together, but I know my grandfather was talking about
not the alien stuff specifically, but talking about
governmental control of information.
It is back in the 70s and 80s where he was really about that.
So anyway, I think that's the point of a lot of the disclosure
today. And it goes back to Chuck's
thing too. Seeds planted in the past, they
had Battlestar Galactica, the old one they had and then that
moved into the the reboot and that moved into Stargate and
they moved into other things that all the seeds are there for
them to retell the story. So anyway with your with your
back to the past and and the the transfer of knowledge there,
it's we know now back in World War 2 for example with the with
the movies that that we had indoctrination.
Like hard indoctrination back then and with the and with the
invention invention of TV and putting that in almost all the
houses that just ramped everything up right before it
was radio right. And then where they had all
those really cool hi voices and and then over to the TV and
that's and that's that just that has ramped everything up to has
has been the worst invention for man for yeah anyway because I'm
addicted. I'm addicted to it.
I admit it. I'll still watch those Marvel
movies. I know they're, I know they're
setting up the the great deception.
But yeah, anyway. Yeah, just from here and all you
guys talk it like what you were saying, Mav.
And you two kind of Nate is like they're releasing it in stages,
right. And so we go back to the 1950s
and we can see like the television and the radio.
And then when we Fast forward to my generation, the millennial
generation, now we got supercomputers in our pockets.
And the information is now easily and readily available.
And now we see like what Generation X&Z, and they're just
nonstop tik toking and just information overload.
We're living in a day and age with a million messages and
signals. And as men of Christ, it's like,
yeah, we have to take heed that we're not being deceived.
Right. And we need to be Bereans, but
but have an answer in season and not a season.
We have to be with readiness of mind like the Bereans.
We also have to know what the scripture says.
And I know we got two pastors here on the line, which is
amazing. And I'm just going to dive right
into the next question. I've heard it talked about.
I mean, I hear different perspectives like the alien meat
suit, right, versus there an interdimensional creature that
physically manifests almost as if it was a hologram.
Just I want to throw this question out there.
Are aliens and demons the same thing?
And what's up with the meat suit theory?
Nate, what do you think, man? I mean, if people don't know why
I keep saying Nate, I mean, he was an investigator from MUFON.
You know, he has his own show, Midnight Mysteries, and I highly
recommend you go check that out. I mean, it's very informative.
I talk about the stuff. Like, tongue in cheek.
But then he goes, yeah, but that was actually a thing because
there's this, like we said earlier, Project Mockingbird and
all that stuff. So he has a lot more
information. I believe it's very informative.
I love how he puts those footnotes there for people to
follow if they want to go down those rabbit trails and stuff
like that. So I highly recommend it.
So anyways, sorry Nate, go ahead.
No. Again Chuck I relate to you
where sometimes my my information is repetitive
because it's just the the base standard of of answer I go to
for a lot of these things because it's it's created out of
years of belief and research and evidence for me.
And you know I I'm completely okay with opposing opinions and
I'm I want to be challenged for me, I I personally think that
they're. You know, there's definitely
demons that are pretending to be aliens, but at the same time, do
I believe that we are the only created being in all of the
universe? Like could there be space whales
on another planet swimming around in some sort of
atmospheric ocean? Could there be lesser created
beings that aren't made in the image of God amago day like like
we are? But are still intelligent.
I I don't know. I look at some of the angels in
the Bible and how some of them appear as as as human and how
Hebrews talks about how we need to be careful how we treat
strangers because we could be entertaining an Angel unaware.
But then other angels are like a weird mix of machine parts and
eyes and sounds and so. I don't believe that heaven is
somewhere off in the clouds. I believe it's dimensions away
from us. And so if we're talking about
interdimensional beings, you know, aliens are
interdimensional beings. But could there be other things
that are also interdimensional beings?
I don't know. Could we be misidentifying or
could some of these definitions be overlapping?
I definitely think so. And in terms of the the meat
suit? That really goes back to
different possession theories, right where demons need to
inhabit some sort of body to be able to to function in this
earthly realm. But again, that separates demons
from from fallen angels and from Elohim, which could be lesser
gods as well. So this is a whole can of worms
that we can dive deep down into. Yeah, and well, that's important
that you bring it up, Nate, just because this conversation is not
being had at all, at least amongst the churches that I
visit. It's either aliens or demons.
Nothing else to see here, folks. Move along, pray against that.
And that's about it. And that kind of answer doesn't
satiate a lot of the people's questions.
So I I've seen it personally start to kind of fester in a lot
of the young people's hearts and and and and it turns into
doubts. It turns into fears and turns
into all these different concerns and and to more
questions obviously. So then they start to think,
well the Bible doesn't have answers for this.
This is greater. This is a greater subject than
the Bible. This is a greater subject that
doesn't fit there. So because of that, there might,
it might and might not be a real thing for me to believe in, in
the Bible, you know. And so because now something
else seems bigger than the actual thing that we go to,
which is our, you know, answer to all things in a sense.
But also when you grow as a Christian and you understand
that they're part of being a a believer is not having all of
your questions answered, which is OK, you know.
And so that's totally not a problem with me.
Like if I don't have an answer, so I respect, like, I actually
don't know. We'll see, You know, we'll see
what happens because ultimately we take everything upon faith
and that is just the foundation of what it is to believe in
anything, right. But when you're asking about
aliens, I mean, yes, there's so many theories out there.
I've heard a lot of the stuff, you know, coming from La
Marzouli saying that, you know, that's there's programs of
possibly abductions and that's why they abduct people to take
from their genetic structure to create suits that these beings
can inhabit because they need to live in a in a sort of
biological suit of some sort of. Mutilation stuff, right?
The cattle mutilation and all of that.
And so if people know, I mean it is it is a reference to the the
Book of Enoch, the first book of Enoch as as far as these spirits
wandering really seeking whom they can possess.
And we see that in a New Testament as well.
Like they're they're they're wandering in these dry places
and they're just seeking to whom to inhabit and things like that.
And it is interesting to me, if you read books like Communion
and things like that, that a lot of abductions and a lot of these
things can stop when you pray out to the name of Jesus.
And that that was like a big tell all for me because why
would an intergalactic being of some sort or alien care or get
mad if you're using the name of Jesus and disappear?
Like you know what I'm saying? It's just it doesn't, it didn't
make any sense to me where I didn't.
I felt like that sort of information was being suppressed
because I believe even in Nathan's research there was a
lot of that where they were just like, wait a minute, these these
entities, these beings are responding to the name of Jesus.
And I did find it interesting that they're always trying to
take away his throne. Yeah, I know he is a teacher or
he's a great ascended master, but these aliens are always
saying, right, But he's not God. He's not, you know, they they
always have to do that. And I think that's very weird
too because they elevate everyone else, including you,
the human being. You can be like a God, which
that should be familiar language to people.
That's that's one of the biggest lies ever told in the Bible,
right in the beginning of in Genesis.
So if we have all of these common threads, that's where I
guess you've I start to become like the the guy with the with
the red string, right. You know, attaching all of these
things together into some some larger grander conspiracy it
starts to really point towards if they're maybe not demons is
the best word for aliens, but definitely creatures or entities
there that are in amenity with Jesus Christ and that is that is
something to to really pay attention to.
Demonic is fine. Not just if you don't want to
say demon, but it's it's demonic.
It's it's all demonic. Falling right?
I also find it interesting a lot of times when someone laughs,
what do we think about this thing?
I'll search a few things to see What do they want us to think
about a thing? If you search Meat Suit, first
of all I think there is a band called Meat Suit because that is
the first thing comes to my mind is why isn't there a band called
Meat Suit? But I think there is.
I haven't been knelm down. I wanna, I wanna know the lyrics
of some of the songs. Yeah, yeah, exactly the so that
mean. That's one of the things that I
first thought, but if you search for meat suit, one of the things
that comes up is Lady Gaga's dress that she wore in 2010, I
think the MTV Music Awards. So there are they planting some
of these things in order to obfuscate finding the
information? Cuz like what Nathan was saying?
The best way, So much information, too much
information, best way to hide good information is amongst poor
information and that's what we have.
So truth is difficult to find just because we have so much
information. But as far as the meat suit kind
of thing, I've heard all the theories and echo a lot of what
I've heard said already. But.
I think a lot of this gets muddied a little bit as far as
our understanding of of demons and possession when we get to
the account of Jesus and the demoniac where he exercised the
legion of exercise legion into the pigs and so then the then
the pigs run off a Cliff. So that you got a question one
is that normal for demons to possess animals?
Because that kind of widens the scope quite a bit.
Secondarily, if if they were in the pigs, why did they run off
the Cliff? Is there a suicidal tendency?
Was that part? I don't understand that part.
And 3rd, is there a band called Suicide Pig?
Because that's another good band name that probably won there is
Suicidal Tendencies, I'll tell you that.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But those are the sort of things
where you there is no explanation that we get directly
in Scripture and sometimes. I think this is part of things
because I've counseled people who've been into some of these
things following, going down some of these paths and start to
they don't find satisfying answers.
So they want to go to mediums and other things that sometimes
we don't get answers because we shouldn't have answers to that
yet. It's not, it's not important for
us to understand all those things.
And so for people who are looking for all of the things
lined up. I want all the boxes filled out.
I want all the things figured out.
That is also a way for you to get pulled down the wrong path
because you are seeking answers to things that you don't, first
of all, don't really need. You don't really need to know
how all of the things work. We don't need to know all the
mechanics behind a thing. And I think we'd probably talk
about it'd be nice to know some of these things, but as far as
counseling someone, putting them on the right path, directing
them to Jesus. We don't need all that
information. Like we don't have to have all
those boxes ticked. We can get off that other path
onto the narrow road and we can talk about it.
And, you know, maybe one day, in the context of the relationship
with the Lord will be informed. But some of those things aren't
necessary. And so if we set up a scenario
where you have to have everything figured out before
you start walking, we might be setting up criteria that can't
be. Accounted for that they can't be
answered and sending people up for failure and so they'll
follow whatever other path says that they do have all those
things figured out. They'll follow and you gotta be
careful. Yeah, yeah, my channel, my
channel is designed for people who at least are planning on
searching. They're in the secular world and
but they're looking so they're somewhat open minded.
And when they're there, that's where you just launch them into
my channel and things will start to click for them.
But even with that information that I've put together, which
should really open people's minds to the weirdness of this
world, it still isn't enough. It's crazy.
I've spent. So much time on people with
people and and they just want to believe in their Buddha or they
just want to believe in their, their, their other religion.
And yeah, it's it's hard, man. It is.
And you know what's brought me so much peace?
Because I wasn't a very peaceful man when I started to learn all
of these things. It was very much like Neo taking
the red pill and he was like losing his mind, you know, I
really felt like everyone had to know everything.
I was learning, right? So I was just like any
opportunity I can get. I had that, you know, I fit that
meme, like where every conversation ended up in in like
him, you know, and there's a reptilians probably possessing
him right now. He doesn't look real over there,
you know, and look at his. Eyes.
Look at his eyes. And so it was definitely not a
peaceful couple of years and always just kind of pushing this
kind of information upon them, even though it was real or true.
And and especially now more than ever, there's kind of, there's
been, I'm like a whole 2 years of vindication for me where
everything's just been like happening exactly how I've said
in the last seven years on the show.
And and I don't say it, I mean, glory to God, I'm not saying
like, oh, I'm some sort of prophet, but I'm just looking at
these things happening. They're just happening in these
stages like we were talking about earlier.
And but I'm at, I'm at a different place where I'm just a
lot more at peace just because I know that God is in control
instead of trying to. Like I let people come to the
information versus me trying to push it down their throat, you
know, which is something that I did and then made me very
anxious as a person. So if you're a researcher,
you're listening to these kinds of shows and maybe you're there
right now, I just encourage you if you might not have a lot of
peace sometimes, you know, really pray that you get
guidance as to how to talk about this information.
I kid you not when I prayed that I'd never talk about it anymore
on my own, and people always ask the question, it always comes up
and I have an opportunity to share, even with me, not even
trying to share the information. So I feel like that's a better
way sometimes, and I could be wrong.
Maybe you won't. You you can be on a soapbox
screaming it out in the streets. It's up to you.
Do whatever you want, you know? But when I've had those
conversations, they're more lucrative because people ask the
question. So they want to know the answer
and they're a little bit more open to these conversations.
And this conversations of about aliens and other religions is
happening so much now that I think you'll have a lot of great
opportunities, whether it's on it in a family event, at work,
wherever you are, but you got to know a lot of the information
first. So I I would encourage people to
be like Paul and you know sit down, reach your Bible, learn
all this other information first, be a Berean, come back
and and and start putting some dots together.
Because when you come out hot with like some random thing like
I remember the first thing that I thought was not theologically
correct and I needed to tell everyone and I it wasn't well
received, especially amongst my church was the pre trade
Rapture. I didn't think it was real right
And I still don't. I don't think pre trade Rapture
is a thing. So I just immediately started
telling the entire congregation that was a mistake, You know, I
was like, you know, and so and they were like heretic, you
know, like this is, it was an outrageous thing to say, some
random kid at the time. I was a kid.
I was like, I don't know, 1819. And I was like, no, man, it's
not in there, dude. It's not in there, man.
And so I did that for a while and I said, you know, it brings
you so much anxiety because people don't receive it well,
right. And so then later in
conversation, things like that, it would come up.
And so I'm just saying, you know, there's definitely better
ways to communicate these very heavy subjects.
And I don't know, I think in God's time and he will always
provide some sort of door or window or whatever to have these
conversations. But I just encourage people to
take it easy. God's still in control.
And you know, we know that the end of the book, right?
The Book of Revelation we, you know for a time I was telling
this to Rod that being a truther and and if you're a Christian
and you're fighting against the New World Order in a sense to
not make it happen. It's like you're fighting
against biblical prophecy because prophecy says New World
Order will be successful for a time you know.
So you're not there to fight the machine per se as far as it not
coming into into fruition. It's more like you're there to
fight the culture in between. You're there to expand the
Kingdom of God despite the expansion of this other Kingdom,
this earthly Kingdom. So you're kind of side by side,
right? And so right.
And so when you do that and if you keep your your focus, you
know you're at peace just because even if this Kingdom,
this earthly Kingdom, this evil Kingdom is growing, the
spiritual Kingdom of God is continuing to grow.
And so that's all you, that's all you need to do is focus on
that and along the way have the answers as to what is happening
right now. Yes, this is happening, but it's
only for a time. And then God will take control.
So it's important to know these things in my opinion, but I
don't know where you guys stand on that.
Well, well firstly I had so many things that I want to discuss in
that whole 5 minute talk that you had and.
And each time I'd go to try to talk and you just kept going.
So I couldn't. And then so I've lost almost
everything that I wanted to talk about.
I've got an ongoing list of notes from.
I wasn't aware of this. I've only been on your show a
couple times, so I now know that I should probably get a list.
Oh yes, and we should talk about that now.
When you say God's in control, I have a different.
Idea about that God is sovereign but not in control, right?
We have free will in this domain and it isn't until we lose the
domain. So, like the new world order is
the weed out of, like the weak Christians, for example, when
they try to take your guns away, how many Christians are gonna
freak out? Like you can't take my guns,
right, Right. And then they'll start to
attack. Boom, boom, boom back.
And well, that's just the death sentence, right?
You've given. You've given the enemy
permission for legal right in both realms to shoot back
because you are. You are shooting them because
they can't take your guns. Well, you're living in a
jurisdiction that has just taken the Second Amendment and ripped
it up because that's what's coming next, right?
That's coming. You can't deny it.
And it is. And everyone's pride on the
United States and the Second Amendment is designed.
For you to covet those guns for your own protection instead of
going to God for protection and not being peaceful and and just
you know, if they if they're coming for your guns, they know
they're there. Don't hold on to them.
Give them up, for example. Can I give a slightly different
perspective on that, you know? Sure.
Let me can I finish? Yes.
Okay. Because I I should get at least
5 minutes to here, all right. Now now the so when when God's
with with God not being like God is is sovereign.
He can take control. But no we've been given
dominion. God is just so when we give up
our dominion and the and the Holy Spirit or the OR the great
restrainer I believe is the Holy Spirit is is then is then
removed on this realm. Right.
And then we are we're basically back to the the the Old
Testament style of grace is gone anyway.
That's that's when things start to change.
And then when we when we cry out to God, or when when his his
people cry out to God, then God will come and save.
Them around Jerusalem and all that.
Sort of stuff, but anyway, you. Talk about that.
All of it's designed to get us to cry out to God.
Yeah, yeah, that's that's the whole.
That's an important perspective, you know, I think it all meshes
and melts together in a really unique way.
But you know, God says he has given his only begotten son that
nobody would perish who believes.
So like there's this testing and measuring and and 100 different
rabbit trails of things that are coming against each and every
individual and as a whole, right from the micro to the macro of
our existent here. That God is literally contending
for us, but free will that that's that's a pretty good
perspective. I think it fits in what you're
saying. You knock with just the flow of
it because God is sovereign and just and that's why mandatory
judgment and wrath is coming because people are not always
going to choose God. So the weed out thing is
interesting too, because I've been seeing a bit of that where
it's like, you know, the testing of, well, everything that's
going on with Trump right now and the the fires in Hawaii,
right. And then the the videos
everyone's sending me on all everything blue.
And the fire is not catching on fire.
We must paint everything blue. Oh, it was predicted in The
Simpsons, right. You have all this information
and stuff going on and it's like leading up to this anger and
disconnect with all these messages and signals that are
keeping people. No, I'm not going to lose my gun
because the system that's coming against me, I must fight back,
right. And it's like they, in a way, I
do see them using that. So that's an important point,
Stirring us up in the flesh. Puffing us up in the flesh.
No, The amendments say this knowledge puffeth up, right.
Because because the anointing breaks the yoke, The anointing
breaks the yoke. So I just wanted to throw that.
Sorry, mav, I know you had something to say.
That was that moved me a little bit because I felt like as deep.
Yeah, I had. I had just a couple thing.
I think the first first thing would be when when people say,
well, God is in control, but then they have a hard time
saying that when they look at maybe the Book of Revelation say
well, but during that time it's different.
No, I think the problem is, is people can't fathom the idea
that God can be in control and evil things still take place,
even though that's the scenario of the entire Bible is.
We we can say God is in control in this time, but is everything
great? No, it's not.
And I think that is that is the paradigm that needs to break
because God still can be in control and allow these other
things to take place. You read through the prophets
and most of the messages you need to turn back to me and if
not I have this empire over here that I'm going to unleash.
And so this scenario where God's in control so it has to be good
is the wrong one. And I think that's what breaks
so many people's theology is they haven't thought through
that. They haven't thought through the
fact that bad things can still be happening, God can still be
in control because of how this world is set up right now.
That's from the beginning, right since the fall.
So I think that's the first one that you got to deal with that.
But with the Second Amendment thing, I just wanted to to touch
on that because I actually don't think they're going to do
anything with the Second Amendment because they don't
have to. It's so interwoven in the
constitution, they actually can't take it away.
So many other things would have to happen for them to do that.
It would never happen. But what they will do is it's
the ammo. That's all they'll need to do.
You almost have it. You almost have more of a
desperation when the ammo is limited and you have people with
guns because then they're desperate, right?
They look outside. So I, I I want to like, maybe
change a little bit. Like you know, I totally agree
that it's a setup. But it's even more of a setup if
you have a limited amount of ammo, because then everything is
the Alamo, right? Everything is.
It's the end. Why not both though?
Why not both? Because if you limit the ammo
and then in front of the camera rip up the Second Amendment in
front for everyone to see what's gonna create more chaos and
panic. Okay.
I I think that. That's what it's about.
It's it's about keeping chaos and panic.
Right. I'm just, I'm just saying from a
legal standpoint, they wouldn't be able to get rid of the Second
Amendment like there's too many states where the contingent on
them joining the United States was maintaining a Second
Amendment. Like a few of these different
things, you'd have secession. You'd have a bigger, bigger
problems doing that. The easier path is to actually
outlaw the the AR15, which uses standardized ammo.
And then if you do that, you sour the milk, no one's no one's
gonna gonna make that ammo and then the only people who have
ammo is law enforcement that that's a far easier way to do it
and I think that's probably the route to go.
Also they're adding the the mental health like if they
consider you all of that stuff and they can say you being a
Christian is mental health issue now, which is a thing that is
happening in different places where they're you know using
that as ammos to. To work against you, so it'll
limit your ability to own a gun and things like that.
So there's ways that they can definitely do it for sure.
But yeah, yeah, but I agree with you Enoch, that's what they
would like to do. I think they're lazy and it
would take too long. And so it's actually moves it
faster if they keep the Second Amendment in place and limit the
ammo. I think your scenario you're
talking about moves faster, but all of it to say is you can't
trust in those things. Yeah.
If if they roll through and they they wanna take them away,
that's fine because they're looking for the same outcome.
Exactly. You know, however they do it,
they're looking for that same outcome and they may move things
around and add multiple things together.
Now I just wanna, I just wanna throw this out there because it
it's just I couldn't help it when I when I brought up this
video floating around with everything that burned up in
Hawaii. But there's all these like blue
umbrellas, like blue cars. There's just everything left.
Like, where does that fall in? Nate, did did you ever get any
reports through the years that the color blue had a
significance? Was it ever talked about through
either frequency or shielding or auras or just?
I know it's a strange question, but I just feel like I got to
sneak this one in here and then let's see what everybody's
thoughts are on it. Well, we're still trying to
unpack it. One of our social media people
posted one of the TikTok videos with the correlation between The
Simpsons and the blue material left over from the Hawaii fires.
And I got into conversation with someone where another person was
saying, yeah, it seems like. The Simpsons are constantly
predicting this stuff and somebody else interjected and
said no, they're telling us what's going to happen.
They're they're letting us know ahead of time.
It's not just them predicting it.
And in terms of the the color blue, this is something I've
just started diving into. So I'd love you guys' feedback.
But in terms of alien abduction interviews I've done and
investigations I've done with with MUFON, etc, there always
seems to be. Blue associated, whether it's a
blue light or blue or like you're talking about or some
sort of blue discoloration within the craft or or or
wherever the people end up. And I had jumped on to Mufon's
database and just did a search string with the color blue and
that started appearing over and over again and again.
I don't have. A more concrete answer than
that, because it's something I'm just starting to dive into now,
but there does seem to be some something significant.
And what I'd also love to dive into is where the color blue
might show up in the Bible, because we see colors in the
Bible frequently from specific instructions on how the temple's
supposed to be built to sapphires and etc.
So I'd love to do a deep dive into where the color blue
appears biblically as well. This is my love language.
Anybody else give me more. Blue Hawaii is also an Elvis
Presley movie from the 60s and a drink called the Blue Hawaiian
which the drink came first before the movie.
So this this whole, like blue and Hawaii Association might
might be a false road to run down like everyone run down that
road because. The other answer is much easier,
so I don't know if it. I don't know if that's the case.
The other thought I had was, when you're videotaping all
Gray, do you change the filters so that you can see the picture
better and does that make blue pop?
That's my other question. So obviously I'm highly
skeptical of the blue being a major component and might be a
false path to rundown, but. Well, I'm going to be correct.
There is a thing with also blue light coming from your screens
and phones, right? And there's this a whole idea.
That's why I'd like usually and towards the night I change my
phone to red filter so that I don't have all the blue coming
in so I can, you know, it's supposed to help with your sleep
and all that stuff. So if you're in front of screens
a lot and you can't really sleep, it's probably one of the
reasons you got a lot of blue light going on.
And so that's why you can switch your screens to to red filter
and things like that. I even have a red room, like I
put a red. It just does another thing.
There's red light therapy, which is the, you know, pretty much
direct opposite of like blue. And it really does, at least for
me, it works pretty decently. I've done it a few times where
in order to defuse yourself from all the blue light, you just get
in a room with a specific red light and things like that and
that helps. So there is something to the
color situation? I have no idea.
What it could be for sure. But it is interesting that
colors matter and all of this stuff and I have no idea why.
But I mean if you look up why the sky is blue, they say
usually you know the the way the light works with with blue and
everything it's it's like a whole thing.
So I don't know I feel like it's it's possible that there's a a a
great, I don't know a greater thing here but I have no idea
what it could be. But I know there's just
significance for sure. Yeah.
And if you if you search Blue Hawaii and Google all the all
the the drink and the Elvis that pops up, but Blue Hawaii fires
does pop up, which makes me feel like if they didn't want people
to look at it, it wouldn't pop up in the suggestions, if you
know what I mean. That's where I'm like I'm kind
of, I'm kind of skeptical on this thing.
Like that's they want people to sound crazy going into this.
And see who's painting their roofs blue.
I've seen that people are starting to paint things blue.
And like, this is gonna protect. And the one thing you're not
doing is asking the Lord to protect you.
Like you'd rather make blue paint your lamb's blood pass
over me, do instead of just trusting the Lord for this
thing, you know? I mean, I don't know.
Maybe I'm. Too harsh on it?
Well, maybe it's some sort of predictor again or some sort of
message being conveyed. I'm just looking over some, even
some psychology notes here where it talks about the association
with the color blue and the ocean and the sky and comfort.
And then it's just a stark contrast in these videos of
Hawaii where it's been burned to ashes and you see blue in the
midst of it, so. Is there some sort of message
being relayed? Maybe I'm reading way too much
into it. That could be the greater
possibility. But maybe there's going to be
some sort of, I don't know, bubbles of comfort that they try
and bring in in the middle of these fires and disasters and
and and just to jump back to something, something earlier,
really, really quick. But I I think of Matthew 24
where it says if it weren't for the spirit, even the most elect
would be deceived. So.
It's going to look good on the outside.
It's going to look healthy. It's going to look like a
solution. But us as believers, the ones
who have the spirit, are going to go, you know, that looks
good. But there's something off about
it. There's there's something that
just just isn't vibing for me. And I think that's why we have
to be careful because a lot of times, even in my conversation,
probably me more than anyone else, I'm like, no, it's going
to be like. An alien disclosure.
It's going to be clearly like what we've been talking about
for years, but I think it's going to appear very good on the
outside. I, I that's an important point
and I think it's happening already amongst us in my opinion
because I mean you immediately saw when there was UFO
disclosure quote UN quote all of us at least me and Matt were
like that doesn't seem right like the way they did it like
immediately like the the. The way it was set up it was
just not right. Even though it's something that
we wanted to hear in a sense us people in this sort of realm of
research like yes I told you so but the way it was brought about
it wasn't and I told you so moment it was like that's not
what I no this isn't this isn't right.
This doesn't seem right at all and every time they were say
something that kind of validates a little bit of what we've been
talking about. It's just a little off.
It's different. It's like I don't I don't know
about this you know and. I don't know.
It's just really weird. But also, I just wanted to drop
in. There wasn't Epstein Epstein's
island correlated with white and blue, The whole thing, you know
there's white and blue was all over the place.
And Ellen DeGeneres background, it was always blue and white.
He looked like Epstein's island thing.
Like, I don't know, so I don't know.
There's definitely something there with colors.
But anyways, and I've even heard like people that deal with the
SRA that colors can be a trigger word to get people into a
certain mind state, right. And just one or two more things
and we'll move on from blue, unless Enoch has has something
he wants to talk about. But I was looking at just the
spectrum of electromagnetic radiation, like the light
spectrum and blue falls between the 490 and 4:30, right.
And then you start to like, look at, well, OK and I and I do this
in a good way, not in a bad way, but but Doctor Laura Sanger's
like, name on everything she uses is 444 Hertz, right?
And it's like, that's super cool.
They say 440 is like that a scale that you turn music to,
right? Like there's something going on.
And in in a lot of ways, Chuck, I've heard you talk about this
Enoch that the New Age stuff is perverting things that are
important that are intended for the body of Christ.
So it's really hard to figure that out and and some of the the
meat of this conversation right here is for somebody out there.
Other people may have skipped forward just a little bit
through a couple parts here, but really the there is a calling
for us to figure these things out because we're not called to
be ignorant to the devil's devices.
Now we don't worship the information.
We don't put it in front of what the truth of the gospel is, but
but it clearly is an elephant in the room with the younger
generation. So thank you guys for
feedbacking on that. Enoch, do you have anything to
add because because I just kind of was scratching the surface on
maybe the light spectrum or frequency.
Do you have some gems or any thoughts well?
Yeah, the only the only thought I haven't looked into into this
at all. All I saw as to why is another
signal as to where we're going and the to get to the disclosure
event or the great deception. So when it comes to blue, all it
was in my mind was frequency. There's there's some sort of.
There's some sort of thing behind the frequency of blue
just like red or something behind the frequency of red.
For example, if red for Canada apparently has symbolism with
the OR called for blood sacrifice.
Cuz Canada is one of the biggest traffickers of of of bodies.
They use Canada a lot to get bodies anywhere else in the
world. So you think that lines up with
the whole new like virus coming out of Canada.
I'm hearing rumors of. Do you think that that fits in
with that occultic? Just a thought.
I thought the virus is coming out of the new viruses coming
out of Africa. I heard recently it was floating
around and it was not. Anything that I could say was
there's so much out there which? Which virus?
Yeah, right. Yeah.
Which one? Good point.
The new Corona, we'll let that my thought fall to the ground
there if you guys want. The new common cold one, that's
Yeah, anyway. There's a hemorrhagic fever
coming from, they say from Europe, even though it's called
the Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic fever, which Crimea and Congo
have nothing to do with each other.
But they're both in the news. I don't know, that's a very
weird one. But anyway.
Well, we're gearing up for masks again here in Canada, so.
Yeah. That's, yeah.
Restrictions, masks and shots and yeah.
Nathan I don't know if you're aware but I've I've broken down
how to combat cuz what's coming is going to seem real to
everyone because we're all loaded up it's all inside of us.
Podcast on how to battle what's, what's coming, like what
basically what Morgellons is, we all have it and how to combat it
and stuff like that. So I've I've broken down, I
think, with with the millennial mustard.
So because they're using. That thank you.
Yeah, they're using more. They're using more Gellons to
basically implement most of most of what's what we're coming.
So they're going to be using frequency to give signs and
symptoms. They're going to use because
it's all about. It's all about.
It's all about parasites and fungus that's that's what
they're using to to to attack us now before what they use for the
COVID to get everybody to to take the take the the harmful
the little prick they poisoned our water with snake with
synthetic snake venom so. So when we drink that, we feel,
I'll start to feel sick and then we'd be.
Down and out for 12 to 14 days, which is how long it takes for
the venom to get out of your system as well.
Like signs and symptoms, signs symptoms match snake venom, not
the common cold. Interesting.
We we noticed our water, our water has drastically changed
different here in Alberta over the last six or seven months.
Yeah. Where are you in Alberta?
I'm in Calgary. Edmonton Hey, yeah, have you
guys noticed a taste in? Difference in water.
I only drink filtered water. I don't even drink water at
restaurants. Yeah, we're picking up a filter
because we yeah, at first the City of Edmonton tried to
explain it as runoff from the North Saskatchewan River, but
it's just lasted another five or six months after that.
Yeah, it's really sketchy right now.
I stop drinking water. I only drink raw milk now.
So quick, quick question is, are they changing this the city
because we're coming from all around the country right now,
right? Each one of us is in a
different, different place. I mean are they changing the
lights in any of your towns or cities now?
I've seen it here on the Turnpike, for example, when I
go, you know when I went to Ohio, right?
So I jumped. I went all the way across the
state, but at certain places I'm noticing blue like UV lights
instead of the standard white or yellow St. lights that are being
implemented. Any of those changes taking
place where you guys are at? Anybody notice any of that?
No, not yet. Too much going on.
And so Cal has too many lights. I don't know.
I'm in Southern California. It's just.
It's just normal lights right now and it's St. lights.
Yeah, the street lights. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The street lights outside that I have right now is like it's the
same light that's been there for 20 years.
It's like never changed, you know, So, but I have seen like
these streets where they're being remodeled.
I've seen videos in other places where they're apparently
changing St. lights of quite a bit and that's it is a little
strange, but I don't know. It's just not hasn't happened
around here yet. I've noticed them on, on and off
ramps of all the turnpikes and major routes that I just
traveled through. You know, I did 1000 mile trip
within the last month and they just kept popping up.
Just curious if it was happening anywhere else, even even on
local streets, back roads. It seems like there's certain
places which which I should put together a video I should drive
around at that sundown and just kind of show, hey, is there
something peculiar about this location, why they're doing that
lighting? I could be reading too deep into
it, but just curious if anybody else was noticing that.
LED is being implemented all over all over the place right
now because LED is a is a is a transmitter and receiver.
So like if you look at your your solar panels, your solar panels
are just are diodes as well as an LED is a diode so so when you
put it LED everywhere it. It basically operates as a
camera, right? That's so cuz your speakers can
operate as a camera that a lot of people don't understand that
cuz it's just frequency, right? So it can, it can.
It acts like sonar. Believe it or not, it acts in
the same purpose you can. A computer program can get the
entire readout of your of your house.
It knows how many people are in it.
All that sort of stuff through your.
Now I sound like a crazy crackpot, but just think of
Daredevil, right? How does Daredevil see the
entire room? Well, you saw that in eagle eye,
Steven Spielberg's eagle eye. Even with our phones, right?
Yeah, those of us who have Hey Siri or whatever enabled, Hey
Google enabled. Your mic is always on listening
for that command. It doesn't magically know when
that command is given. The mic always has to be on for
that command to be heard. And then you look at even
infrared technology too with your your cameras.
And again, there's just precise location mapping like Enoch just
talked about. It's it's not just oh, this is
the person's approximate area. It's like, no, this is where
they are in their house, in their room, on their bed, or
next to their night stand. It's.
It's extremely precise. Nathan, I need you to come with
me. Come aboard and help me write.
Because then the precise, the words that you choose, your
wording is far better than what I do with my Mickey Mouse
vocabulary. You're lexicon.
I am so impressed. Yeah, but you're you.
Have to tell my You have to tell my wife that because I don't
think I'm impressed for much with.
Me you never. You never can.
I you know the the light, you know, I could correct me if I'm
wrong, but you can even use LED different rates of flashing to
kill people, right? Yeah, yeah, it's and.
Produces. You could produce.
Seizures, yeah. Different.
So yeah, I'm not telling you all you have to do this, but I have
made friends with the local crows.
And I feed them and they come by every day and they call and I
come bring out some peanuts. And then they they come and eat
and they perch up on those lights.
And so I'm watching them because I know they'll probably be the
first ones to feel a change and probably drop down dead.
Wow. Just a thought, like a Canary in
the cold. Yeah, exactly.
I was going to say that's your Canary, huh?
That's right. I don't know if that's good or
bad, Mav. I don't know how I feel about
that. That seems friends of these
crows. I mean, what's really going on
here? If they only knew what you were
using them for. All right, so technology, I just
want to run this one out there. It's not a written down question
that I had, but it's I got to ask the reports that come
through with the demonic being able to manipulate technology.
I mean, we're breaking down just with the lights, right?
Frequency in general, where your microphone or a frequency wave
can actually just like echolocation, bring back an
image to the one casting that vibration out.
Now, in your guy's opinion, how does it work with the demonic
realm? Do you think they're able to
manipulate like literally the technology that we are all
walking around with in our pockets?
Do you think that they're beyond just the A I algorithms are able
to, let's just say, our teenage kids every time that they jump
on their device, whether it's on the web or any type of media
platform at all. Do you think it's forcing a A
frequency to keep them entangled in the mindless entertainment of
everything that's relevant right now?
And do you think that that also is like a forced spectrum of
what they are considering is an interest and is that
contributing to the sleep world, the dream world?
I know it's like a multilayered question.
I'm trying to get it out. I hope that was understandable
for you guys, but I feel like there's a couple things tied
together that I'm feeling is a similar outcome.
Just gonna drop that one where it is.
Somebody pick it up. Yes, OK.
Next question. Is that simple?
I mean just yes. But let me explain, so let me
elaborate. One of the reasons is I we
often, even in church, have this conversation where we separate
the natural from the supernatural.
Like there's the natural world and a supernatural world That is
incorrect. There is no aspect of human
existence that isn't spiritual connected to the spiritual,
including the creation of technology.
I mean, if we look at how technology is made and we still
to this day have. All of these people like in
Silicon Valley having these like micro dosing trips, getting
information from reptilians from the other side, and even though
they might think that's just some experience and maybe not
true and they're just somehow expanding their brain or
whatever, people are still having these things happening to
them where they're getting information from the other side
and then creating a new technology.
You know, the technology, your screen is basically a Black
Mirror. How did you do rituals before
you used mirrors? You know, so all of these
different things are related to each other.
There's not technology isn't just some random physical thing
that we can use and it betters our lives.
It's taking advantage of the world that we live in.
This terrestrial world is connected.
That's why I like, you know, you talk about Wi-Fi like in all of
these different things that happen in the air, you know,
the, you know, but it's. It's in my opinion a reference
to what is it in Ephesians, you know the powers and
principalities and talks about the The Who.
Is it the the, the? I can't.
What is the words? Here?
I'm losing the words, the powers, principalities,
dominions, rulers. No, it says something about
being like, yeah, the Prince of the air or something like that.
Or yes. Powers of the.
Air, Yeah. And so we have these types of
conversations where you can see that.
Technology fits in the realm of spirituality, and it doesn't
surprise me that all it takes to alter a person's consciousness
in some way or another is to manipulate their body with
frequencies, because I think it's all connected.
We do. Frequencies are real.
I think the The New Age hijacks it and talks about chakras and
all of this stuff, but it's like, no, no, it's a reality,
You know, your body changes if you're wearing.
You know, certain type of clothing, it's like there's like
there's whole studies on it like you, I think me and you Rod had
this conversation about wearing cotton and synthetic clothing
and the difference in how the body changes and is like when
you wear those sort of things. And so it's definitely
connected. I I don't know how to elaborate
more, but it just seems that this is.
An obvious thing to me that the spiritual world, the physical
world, technology is definitely a way for the evil to manipulate
things in our existence. What I think what gets forgotten
is TV and radio is first developed to look into the
spirit world. That's why it was made radio, to
listen, TV to look. And so I don't think it's for no
reason that. What we have today has a veiled
understanding around frequencies, even to where
people say that it doesn't matter.
And yet it might be the most significant area of technology
that we're not exploring that the technology that we have that
we use. And I know a lot of people
falsely think that they are in the pinnacle of technology if
they have certain devices, certain things.
We only have we the the US, the the, the normal common people.
Are with our common reach. We only have technology that can
be metered. If it can't be metered, we don't
have it because they can't make money from those things.
And we're dependent on release of technology.
We don't, even if we develop something new.
And I'm probably stepping on dangerous grounds.
My uncle was an inventor, and for anyone who might be
watching, I don't have any of his things.
I don't have any of his notebooks or information and
things like that. But he was delving into a
completely different area of technology, and I know that I
absolutely know for a fact that his his findings and his
inventions were used by the military and it has now been
used in zero common man application, even though it
would literally change, change lives, not in use, not anywhere
on the spectrum. And so as far as technology
goes, I think that we are, we have a heavily manipulated
technology tree. Today.
And so unless you are in those higher levels of science, you'll
never see it unless you actually go.
And that's why people go into higher levels of science with
corporations and universities, because otherwise you won't have
access to those. So first, my take away.
The very first take away that I got is Maverick is not the
favorite nephew. Because he didn't get any any of
the paperwork. But second, yeah, I'm friends
with an inventor and he is inventing a free energy machine
that uses, that uses the sky. It operates in the exact same
principle as antigraph. And yeah, and it's and once once
it's explained to, you're like, Oh my goodness, it's so simple.
But, you know, we're so trained to think in these material ways.
In in the illusions that have been created for us through NASA
and all that, all that nonsense that that we we can and even
possibly grasp the without intense study and understanding
the how the how the world actually works.
And it's actually scary when you do start to study how the world
really works, cuz then you start to figure out how much we've
been lied to. And I mean my biggest crash of
where where I almost lost my brain.
My noodle almost snapped. Was just finding out that money
wasn't at all what we thought it was.
And this was back in 20/10/2009 and my mind is like, what?
Money is a contract. That's it.
And so when that happened to me, my mind broke.
So so my mind's already broken guys.
I can go and look into into anything.
Yeah, and you know, according to the leads.
We're the dumb ones for not knowing because they've told us
the truth, in my opinion, in the movies, because you see this
theme in the movies all of the time where there's technology
that's way beyond us and we don't have it.
It's not for us. You know, perfect example that,
you know, I know Enoch can relate to is the movie Elysium
and these Med beds that can just heal anybody and things like
that. Yeah.
And so that's kind of my point, like this stuff is out there.
We've not even been, I wouldn't say we've not been lied to, per
se. It's like, no, you're just not
smart enough to pick it up. So they're they think they're
cool. They're not going to get their
karmic blowback. Maybe because they've told us in
our face through our entertainment, through our, you
know, music, movies, that this is the reality of things.
Something cool comes out, military takes it, You never see
it again. And that's how it is.
And so it's just, it's got to pay attention.
How do we combat this though, right?
I mean, just one glance at the word of God, right?
We see that David takes an E FOD when he's in one of his worst
situations, right? So his men are going to betray
him and kill him because everything has been pillaged,
right? And I forget the exact verse.
I don't remember like verse, but I know it's in there.
And David is hearing the rumors of his own men wanting to stone
and kill him, right? And so this is ancient story,
right? I I believe the word of God.
I believe what happened is still relevant and can be used today.
But there's some misconceptions here.
But but Long story short, David takes the ephod and choirs of
the Lord. The Lord says go strike them
back. You're going to gain back
everything and their plunder, right.
And it's like the word is there for our edification, for our
increase that we may understand. So, like, we're talking about
all these things going on today, Frequency and these different
weapons and how we are being systematically broken down.
But we know the weapons of our warfare are not physical
weapons, but they're they're spiritual for pulling down
strongholds. So, Nate, do you have some
encouragement for us in the area of how do we bite back and
combat through prayer? What is, what is God kind of
leading us in As we're becoming aware of the Matrix, some of us
are waking up. Some of us have been on the boat
for a little while eating the tasteless oatmeal.
How do we fight back? Yeah, I OK.
So just just a couple of of layers from from my perspective.
But I I've talked about this on some of you guys' shows before.
But I always think it's funny when we picture angels, they
still have like bows and arrows or Spears and swords and yeah, I
I think they do. But think about how much our
weapons have advanced and and the type of.
Technology we have at our disposal for warfare today and
how much more. So do do angels have this
arsenal? Like do they have weapons that
force beings into another dimension or or I don't know
destabilize their their atoms being held together?
I I've no idea. But I think a theme we see
throughout Scripture is the. And I want to be careful when I
say this because there's a lot of.
Accusations of heretics and stuff who talk about this, but I
think there's a lot of power in sound that we see throughout
scripture. I think of David when he's
playing the harp for Saul during during for Samuel work homes
him. I think of how God used to have
the the trumpeters and and musicians walking ahead of
Israel's army playing sound as they go into battle around the
walls of Jericho and how. Their sound actually caused the
walls of Jericho to to fall. I think there's something about
our prayer when it said out loud, you know, it's not just in
our head, but it's it's out loud again.
So I think ways we can combat it is, you know, praying through
our place, praying over our technology, how much, how many
of us pray over situations and pray over our, our house,
etcetera, but. Have we prayed over our
technology before? Have we dedicated it to God?
I think there's a number of different ways we can begin to
just rededicate our technological lives to God.
Because again, technology can be used in in wonderful ways, but
can be used in in dark and nefarious ways too in in my
opinion. Dan Duvall has some fantastic
prayers for for creating hedge of protection around your your
house through all dimensions. Stuff that I really like his his
prayers, his sermons are are a bit odd but but so so if you go
and listen to his sermons then you don't and you don't like his
sermons that's you know that's that's totally fine but his
prayers his prayers which go against satanic ritual abuse and
all that. So it helps you to understand
that that kind of stuff. But anyway, just thought I'd
throw that out there for anyone who wants to know.
You could download his app. It's it's the Bible.
Bible Bride Ministries and and yeah on every episode that I've
done since his I believe first time is on the show.
Over a year ago, I put that link in the show notes.
So you guys that are listening you can drop down to the show
notes here on this episode or any other episode on the Mustard
Seed and go directly to Bride Ministries.
For what Enoch is reiterating is.
I believe the prayers are what's been neglected and hence the
reason. Real quick, I'll drop this Mav
and Chuck, you guys did this prayer episode recently and that
is that's so important you guys, because we're called to bind the
strong man before we plunge the house.
And the corporate church as a whole spends maybe 5 minutes
praying. It's not a priority to pray.
And so I just want to highlight that and very Nate, very good
response and just it's powerful man.
The word of God has life in it. It has power in it.
And I think as we kind of wind down, we can all just share, you
know, scripture, testimony, whatever's on your guy's heart.
But I just want to say first and foremost, each one of you being
here and taking the time to wrestle through these ideas,
share your opinions, We might not see the ripple effect,
right? We might not.
I remember when I when I first talked with Doctor Laura on the
phone ever before, we got on the on a podcast episode 2 1/2 years
ago and she told me about what her reaction to listening to a
podcast caused her to dive into research that led to the roots
of the Federal Reserve. Which Enoch, you're saying what
broke your mind was realizing money is just a contract so we
never know the ripple effect. This should be encouraging.
We are speaking life. We're taking a stance in Christ
and you guys are awesome. So I mean that's kind of my two
cents as we we kind of wind down.
Yeah, go ahead, man. No, I was going to say I kind of
wanted to riff off of what Nathan was saying and a little
bit of what Enoch was saying too.
But I think the areas we don't look into nearly enough, even
not just technology, just in in in general is sound and smell.
I've been trying to look into smell a bit more because it
talks about incense and very specific mixture of incense that
could be used in the temple. People report things and Nathan
could talk about it. People report smells with
different interactions with different entities and things
like that. I think we just, we just totally
glance over it. We don't even look into those
things. And those might be really,
really important areas. Definitely the sound, but I
really haven't heard anyone talk about smell.
That's sort of the other one. But apparently it's important
because in Revelation it talks about incense and smell quite a
bit. But I think, and going off of
something else Chuck was saying too, I think if we take the
categories of fiction and news. And flip flop them, we probably
would get a lot more out of things.
So the things that they're putting out there is fiction,
movies, TV. If we paid more attention to
those and less attention to to the news that they want to put
out there as this is the real information, we probably would
be going down the right paths of research and and intellectual
pursuits. That's just side thought, but
about the categorization and this is where it's going to come
back to. We're talking about, I think we
too often let the world set the categories of what's important,
what's not important. Because when it comes down to
it, you could have the entire New World or New World Order
army staring you down. And you, you still have to do
the you still have to wake up. You still have to pray for your
family. Pray over your family.
You still have to move forward and seek the Lord.
All those things are are still the most important things, all
of those things. And they're they're the first
things that we should think of and and yet we let these other
categories let their categorization seep in And I'll
use one example. Mark of the Beast.
I don't know how many different podcasts, videos to talk about
Mark of the Beast and they so emphasize can't buy or sell as
if that's the most important thing stated.
And I've heard almost nothing talked about of worship of the
Beast. So why is buy or sell the most
important aspect but not the worship aspect?
It it kind of tells tells us what categories were tricked
into thinking you're the most important.
What happens if I can't buy or sell?
Oh I don't know. Food and water are still free.
You can still go find it. You can still go get these
things, but we have this category of all the if God wants
to provide these things for us, we have to buy or sell it.
And that's a false category you have.
You have way too many Christians focusing on dumb stuff that
doesn't matter. Like, why is that the most
important aspect of this thing? Instead of getting your heart
right and your mind right, and if you're worshipping the Lord,
I could, we could pour into 100 different passages where it
talks about how the Lord is going to care and provide for
you. So why aren't we leaning on that
instead of just being so scared about, Oh no, the mark of the
beast. What if I accidentally take the
mark of the Beast? Well, if you can't accidentally
become a Christian, you can't accidentally become a beast
worshipper. You know, it's not doesn't work
like that. I think we've we've muddied it
to the point where it's so confusing for people and it's
not. It's very simple.
It's just simple. Doesn't sell books, so.
One one thing that that I wanted to to bring in is for the times
that that we're going in because we're talking about frequency
and colors and and smell and our senses and all that sort of and
all of that sort of important information.
But what what I've discovered with you know when when you
start studying CERN and D wave? And and what they're
communicating with, right. You said the TV and radio was
invented to talk to the the other dimension and well that's
what CERN and D wave is developed to do as well just
faster and so. So our realm is or or where we
reside? Where we reside.
Is if you just think of it on a, on a on an elevator and so we're
slowly like our our realm is slowly going down or is are
going down towards the that demonic realm And so when you
read revelation and you think everyone's telling you it's it's
just it's just giving you descriptors.
It's not. It's not focusing in No, no,
we're going to see Dragons. We're going to see these demonic
things everywhere all of these creatures we're going to we're
going to see them and and if if you look so with with MUFON they
have a they've mapped out the where you could see all of the
the alien sightings and and just so people can understand what
happened when. With what is it?
Oh my goodness, I have a Babylon rising.
The the ritual, the sexual ritual that they did down at
Babylon working. Babylon.
Yeah, Babylon working, right, so.
So that was a ritual to allow the to create, that created a
portal that brought the frequency down to the area so
that a a like these, what we're calling spaceships, was able to
appear. And if you look in in on the map
of Mufon, right, they've mapped it up. the United States is
covered in in these in these sightings, which means portals
have been opened in those in those areas and if in the United
States is just covered. And so the United States, as far
as falling in in a in a realm, in an in an area, it is, has
fallen really far. And is on par and that's why
there's so many sightings in the United States with all this
weird stuff. In Canada we get some sightings
and again you look at the map and in Canada it's not nearly as
as like the United States is lit up.
It's just lit up. I sent I sent a video to my
group to show them the the MUFON.
You know so you're up there's there's there's Europe and
that's still not as crazy as the United States the United States
is is mystery Babylon in in in my mind but so but if you but if
you understand if you understand that we are all moving down
right like an elevator we're moving down to the lower the
lower floors right. And that's that's the Holy
Spirit. As we move away the Holy Spirit,
then the Great Restrainer. Because we've allowed it.
We are the ones who are doing it.
It's war. It's man battling man.
And because the man who is you know the the the deep state is
all is is men. Men are tampering with all this
stuff until until finally the last 3 1/2 years when when the
battle in heaven and all of the the third of angels fall to
earth, that's that's when things get really Cray.
So. That's when it's no longer just
man fighting man, it's it. It would be the the, the fallen
angels and what man is left battling anyway.
So. So I just wanted to throw that
out because if you can think that, if you can think about
that that that that were and then reread revelation and then
you may be able to really grasp some of the craziness that's
that's coming anyway. So I got my 5 minutes there.
Look at that well, As for me. I've taken information as at
sort of like a burden sometimes, you know sometimes do feel like
cipher from the Matrix where it's like I wish I didn't know
about this stuff to be honest like yeah, I was like you just
be completely ignorant and you know not know and just kind of
be blue pilled as they say. But what I like to say is that
knowing this information comes with a responsibility, you know.
So if you're going to go down certain paths, I do recommend.
Christian, don't be afraid to look into alternative medicine.
I'm not telling you what to do. I'm not a doctor or nothing like
that. But some of that stuff has
helped me for sure. I always look at these new ages
and some of the stuff that they post, and if I if it doesn't
feel convicting to me, as in it's somehow bothering my walk
with God or it's like, like, I don't know, doing ritual yoga or
something like that, I'm not going to do that, right?
But. If it's something else, like
grounding, for example, I saw an episode on grounding or
documentary and it I tried it out, it seemed to work for me to
help with inflammation. It did, it did help with a lot
of things when I work out or when I do my martial arts in the
grass, like with my feet on the ground.
And I'll do it for an hour to almost two hours and I have like
little to no soreness after even days after.
But if I do it in the Dojo in A room.
I'm super sore. I'm like my body hurts and
things like that. So there's like a difference.
There's So what I'm saying is don't be afraid to look at these
things. You know be you know make some
decisions. You know that food that is
processed isn't good for you. Don't don't eat it.
You know don't eat as much of it.
You know make some changes here. And I I I saw a service not too
long ago in the. The guy, the guest speaker was
like, I'm from Tennessee, so, you know, my heart belongs to
Jesus. But, but, but my body's built by
pork, you know what I mean? And then he, he goes on to make
fun of how bad his health got. And God helped him through that
process. I'm like, well, God had grace on
you, brother, but you weren't supposed to be eating like you
were like you're eating. So, you know, be make decisions
that are that are better for your health.
You know, like I said, I try. To do intermittent fasting, I
try to do a lot of different things that are good for my body
to be there so that I can be there for my family when longer.
You know, I think we have this ability to either expand our
life or shorten our life to an extent.
I know when it's time to go, it's time to go.
But I think we have to be smart and eat better.
Look for ways to make your body healthy because people
underestimate. Your temple, you know, you are
the temple of God. You wouldn't go to a church and
throw a bunch of trash in there and treat it like crab or
whatever. You wouldn't destroy it.
But yet we do that with our bodies a lot of the time.
Why would you do that? You know?
So you know, men, you know, work out a little bit, get strong,
you know, be useful, don't be this little weakling guy, you
know? So I don't know.
This is just for me. This is how really God has been
working on me in my heart and I'm trying.
And yeah, I'm not the best at it.
I'm not saying I'm super healthy.
If you look at me, I'm a little big boy, you know, But I'm
getting healthier and healthier as I get older.
I'm trying to work on really building my temple.
I see it that way. I I give that over to God.
And it's not just this vanity thing.
Like, I just want six pack dude. I want biceps that are like turn
out of my tshirt dude. It's nothing like that.
It's about. Really becoming useful as a as a
man, in my opinion. Being able to protect my
daughter, my wife, if I have to. And those are, I think necessary
things. So maybe more practical.
Almost possibly you might say, unrelated to any of the stuff
we're talking about. But again, smell all of that
stuff. It's it's a spiritual
experience, including your body. I think exercise and health is
the most underrated spiritual experience.
People are just kind of. Bought into the system and
they're just moving along with not thinking about it at all.
And I think it's important. Yeah, I think if you bought
smaller tshirts you could rip out.
Yeah, that's all I got to do. Well, we're going to close out
here. I think it's it's definitely
necessary. We do a Part 2 roundtable
episode because there's so much more I want to ask you guys.
And the diversity of the responses, the agreements, and
even the different perspectives here are healthy for us to look
at into, for us to deal with the the elephant in the room.
A lot of the times, you guys, is everything that the church won't
deal with and everything that we're being nudged at.
Hey, how do I process this now? Everybody's at a different place
of your walk. And I'm hoping this episode
helped you guys. I'm hoping you got some
questions answered here. I'm hoping it causes you guys to
dig deeper into your Bible and to not fear.
Don't be afraid. Whatever's on the news, whatever
they're telling you, we need to trust in Christ.
He's got the answers for us. And there's some great
information that was covered here on this round Table
episode. So let's close out Mav.
You have what's your show called?
Everybody do a plug here real quick.
Let's go across the squares. Plug where you're coming from
real quick. Information on what your show
is, anything that you guys are doing cool and exciting right
now. Yeah, I'm Co hosting with Chuck
on Fire Theft Radio and so slide in and get to be in in that
episode or all those episodes on that on that podcast.
So that's definitely it. And then I've got my, my other
stuff. I'm on Twitter.
I'm on Instagram, YouTube, Govin off Sundays.
I do a stream kind of more directed at unbelievers who
might be interested in sort of biblical topics.
So yeah, that's what I got. Search for Maverick Pilgrim or
the one Maverick Pilgrim. So.
Nate Where can people find you? Sure.
Our our main podcast myself and my cohost is called Midnight
Mysteries and we're based here in Edmonton, AB, Canada.
Shout out to to Enoch who is also here in Alberta.
I'm slowly starting to start a second podcast called Paranormal
Pastor. Midnight Mysteries is a is a
bridge podcast. It's not a Christian podcast,
but it's run by a mix of people where our belief inherently
bleeds through. Whereas Paranormal Pastor would
be more tackling these perspectives from a Christian
worldview, a Christian perspective to Christians.
I'm a former investigator for MUFON now.
I'm Mufon's Community Connections director.
And Enoch, where can people find you?
They need just to think of me, come to them in their dreams.
What? Creepy.
Kindly. Kindly not, like a sucker or
whatever, whatever. That kind of dream.
OK, yeah. No, no, Just hanging out.
It's not. No bro.
Here's here's some Java. Oh, you.
Don't drink coffee? Here's a.
Cocoa, right? Maybe like that.
Let's chat. You can find.
You can find me on the rundown of our Reality Rumble Bitch
Shoot and YouTube. Tube is censored.
So I just released the whole chess board video which gets
into a lot of understanding. It's a crash course.
I don't spoon feed you. I show you what my claims are if
you will. To me it's like this is what I
figured out, but what my claims are.
And then I have a library where you can go and you can.
Research all of the pretty info and the links are in the
description under my videos and that's the rundown of our
reality and you can see me on. You can hear me also on the
Millennial Mustard seed. I'm a frequent guest and
probably on FTR as well, cuz we were talking about getting back
on. And Nathan, if you if you want
to chat about the weird, I am always available.
So it's just if it's in the morning, make sure you call me.
Thank you. Give you a heads up?
And Big Brother Chuck, Where can people find you, my bro?
Well, Matt, plug it in. You know, just fire theft radio.
You can do Instagram, Facebook. You can e-mail us at
firetheftradio@gmail.com if you don't like something like
something. I'm pretty open to discussion.
You don't have to agree with me. I've had people definitely
message me in disagreement with things that we talk about, and I
encourage them to use the website firetheftradio.com.
You can stream it directly from there and you can interact with
people that leave comments and things like that.
And I got to say that last episode, call to prayer, I got
way more interaction than I ever thought I would.
I think I've gotten the most interaction so quickly.
From any episode we've ever posted about people wanting to
join in on prayer, about people needing to hear that episode,
that it was very uplifting for them.
And I'm very pleasantly surprised.
I know God is moving because I don't know I just I just felt
it. I I got to blame the ministry
that you know the the I believe he's he's well it's kind of
confusing. His page is like the fifth
horse. But he has the 4th watch.
But it's not the 4th watch that's from the fall brothers.
But I put it in in the in the show notes of that episode so
you can join him for all the men out there.
He does a Bible study and he really encouraged me with his
Bible study and he said something that's kind of changed
my my mind a little bit. Put me in in the next in that
extra gear which is You are the only Bible someone will ever
read. You know, so in living in that
way has made me like, like, OK, you got it.
You have to be a representation of the Kingdom of God wherever
you are because you might be the only Bible someone might ever
read. And in doing so, how that has
changed the aspect of how I approach certain things a little
bit more, I don't know, I guess you can say, connected to my
faith. And so I encourage everyone, if
you want to join us in prayer, go listen to that episode.
We have some instructions in there.
And join us in prayer, man. We need we need the guidance of
God to the Holy Spirit and all of these things.
Especially when we're diving into the weird and exposing some
things that are in darkness and and that comes with a terrible
price. But I I I'm not afraid because I
am covered by the Lord Jesus Christ so but so we have to we
have to do that though we have to put ourselves in that
position. So I encourage everyone to go to
check that out. I want, I want to throw out
there too, on Twitter or X or whatever you want I want to call
it. I'm trying to start a more
public prayer, sort of a prayer meeting every day.
So every day I try to post, you know, what did you pray for?
I want to pray with you. Do you need prayer?
And I've gotten a couple people to, to jump in there.
But, you know, I think if we can, whether you're on there now
or not, that's where people are. And there are people who want
prayer. There are people who want to
understand that they think God is far away and you praying for
them brings God near and so kind of a little experiment.
But if you wanna be part of the experiment, Math Pilgrim on
Twitter or X or whatever it is, and let's see if we can get
people to think about this more just in their everyday lives.
One of the one of the things that I'm going to be doing for
my next videos, the first one, is the anatomy of a skin Walker,
right? So I'm explaining how skin
walkers came to be. And the next one I'm doing is
the anatomy of a prayer. So what when when we talk about
prayer, what does that mean? And I'm doing it in that I'm
doing it in that order because people need to understand the
craziness of the demonic realm. And then so when they understand
that and then they'll understand the power of prayer afterwards.
Because it's if you go to the power of prayer, people look
like. Right.
Prayer. I'm gonna pray for you right.
Like those where you get those people on on Facebook's like you
know thoughts and prayers and like what's that gonna do.
Prayer is really powerful if you understand and you do it
correctly. So so yeah show show the
demonics side, you know and and if people are fearful, I mean
that's where they are in their walk.
Well, when you start seeing these, these creatures out
there, that fear is gonna start growing, so much so that many
people are gonna drop dead. And so when you understand, when
you understand the prayer, it will help people to understand
why you don't have to fear so. So the best for last.
Psalms 25. Verse one unto thee, O Lord, do
I lift up my soul. Oh my God, I trust in thee.
Let me not be ashamed. Let not my enemies triumph over
me. Yeah, let none that weight on
thee be ashamed. Let them be ashamed, which
transgress without a cause. Show unto meet thy ways of God
and teach me thy parents. Lead me in thy truth and teach
me well. That's it.
That's the show, everybody. This is worth sharing with your
coworkers, with your friends, with your family members.
I love you guys as an audience because you guys are.
We're a small, powerful group, Is the way that I always depict
you guys to everybody else. We are.
Walking by faith and not by sight.
So you've been equipped here, which means share this with
another prayer warrior and go leave everybody on this round
table discussion of Chuck and Mav and Enoch and Nate.
Go leave them five star rating reviews and really pray about
the information and seek. God to to take you deeper for
what you're calling might be because we're diverse body
diversity of gifts, but we have one membership through the blood
of Yeshua coming to you from Southeastern Pennsylvania.
God bless and goodbye. Appreciate each one of you guys
and you all bring something to the table.
You now has a question. No, it brings questions.
I'm brewing some coffee, so in 5 minutes I'll probably just run
upstairs and grab it and bring it down if that's OK.
Yes. No, it's not OK.
No. So I just wanted to share a
couple of the thoughts and stuff that was impressed upon me in
prayer and just with what's going on in the world right now
about why I wanted to ask you guys to come here.
Obviously, we're combating a lot of false information right now.
There's a lot of stuff floating around out there and there's a
small group of serious believers, and each one of us
has been given. By God, a ministry, a unique
voice to be able to reach certain people.
So I think coming together, you guys are going to be able to
talk about stuff that I necessarily wouldn't be able to
connect the dots on. But you know, there's a lot of
young believers right now that are really wrestling through
with the Billy Carson deception. You know, you can learn daughter
and her friends and just my younger cousins, it's just
famous on TikTok, right. We see just a lot of a lot of
deception going on, so. And I want to encourage the the
listeners at some point and and you guys will do this just
according to the spirit but that we have victory in Christ.
You know like I want to cover information and and whatever
happens happens on this recording but we know that
Christ is king and I really want to back up and support towards
the end. I have a personal motive to back
up and support the prayer episode that Chuck, you and Mav
did, because that's heavily needed.
We. I think we all just understand.
I'm just kind of rattling some stuff off That's like, this is
where my heart's at for this recording.
But and other than that, man, it's battle's real.
I appreciate what you guys have been doing.
And for each one, you know, Mav, this is the first time I get to
see you and say hi to you, man. It's a pleasure to finally see
your face and hear your voice on the screen here.
Yeah, get to chat. But then other than that, it's
just I'll kind of wing it. I'm sure Enoch knows this by
now. I'm just going to ask questions.
My goal was to ask each one of you questions.
I have multiple questions lined up and I'm just going to
interview kind of each one of you and then whatever happens
happens. But I just got questions lined
up. Very good.
Awesome. So before we actually get
started, Mav, do you mind saying a prayer?
Leaving us in prayer. I would love to do so.
One SEC. Father, we thank you so much for
this day. We know that we don't deserve
it. We know we haven't earned it.
And so we thank you for it. Or thank you so much for all of
these gentlemen who are here. Lord, just as was stated, we are
all in our own corners. We are all deployed to our own
places that you've. Placed us and Lord, we just pray
that today, as we all come together, Lord, we pray that you
would be honored, You'd be glorified.
And we pray that as we speak, Lord, that the Holy Spirit would
be the true binder between all of us, and that our unique
viewpoints and experiences and understandings, Lord would would
mix together. Because of you?
Because of that connection that we do have.
Or would you pray against the enemy?
Pray that any plan, plot would be forwarded, Lord in your name?
In the name of Jesus, would you pray that above all, your name
would be honored and glorified in any who listen and who watch
Lord to be encouraged and be pointed towards you, and not to
our own kingdoms of dirt? We we love you.
We thank you for these things properly.
Jesus, Rod, just so you know, I've been thinking heavily on
that whole Mandela thing. I think I've figured out some of
it. So we can talk about that later
if you want. Definitely, definitely.
And you guys, as the spirit leads?
Like seriously, if you got this jumping, oh has this.
What happened? We lost one.
No, I think he was messing, messing with his eyes.
Let's say video. At least it's like it says the
words the right way this time over there.
I'd love to share testimony really quick.
Sure. Absolutely.
So we some of you are aware of kind of the.
The kind of scenes ministry stuff I do.
We had this really prominent sidekick here in Alberta.
His name was Darren. He ran a company called the
Extra Large Medium because he's a big guy and so he's a medium
right and ended up getting saved during 2020 and he has just been
leading people to Christ left, right and center and.
This past Thursday he asked me to join this end times talk he
was he was doing. He said yeah just come on by and
answer a few questions and sends me the poster and it's like is
it the end of days question mark guest speaker Pastor Nathan
Zebra and I'm like, dude, on average it takes me about 20
hours to prepare message like it's.
But yeah, he used his old platform as daring the extra
large medium to invite whole bunch of his old clients.
We have 50 people there and four people afterwards came up to get
saved. Yeah, this was this Thursday.
That's a wow. I'm telling you, man, this is
there's a this kind of group of people.
They're just, they're just ready.
They're primed for the spiritual kind of conversation.
Yeah, they're searching so. Yeah, I feel like in a lot of
ways the rubber is kind of hitting the road for what God's
calling me to do. I'll be traveling to Ohio in
September to speak at it's called Beautiful Feats Ministry
and they're doing a 12 title boxing match.
So the pastor, Rocky de Frank. Him and his wife run a boxing
gym with a church attached to it.
And recently he had somebody, this is just a testament to real
quick. But recently he had a guy come
into the church and he said, I've been watching you for a
while and he pulls out a a wad of cash or a check from one
pocket and says this is the payoff the church.
He reaches into his other pocket and he says this is the upgrade
all the boxing equipment for the kids.
And it's just a beautiful testimony because I was out
there a couple weeks ago and met him.
And I was able to pray and just, you know, kind of connect with
them. So I've been asked to come and
speak and to do a prayer, a warfare spiritual prayer session
in front of, you know, they have thousands of people that come
out from the Youngstown, OH area into this.
And the whole thing is based on these young kids that are being
trained up in boxing so that they can release their
frustration. They have some direction.
They have a father figure in the area.
And so I'm very humbled by that. And I just ask you guys would
keep me in prayer. It seems like September, a great
shakening's coming because I'll also be in Harrisburg, my state
capitol here in Pennsylvania on the 22nd and 23rd.
We we have people coming out to do Warrior Prayer in in the
middle of downtown Harrisburg and that's affiliated through
multiple different ministries that I communicate with.
So I feel like a lot of humility.
A lot of just longing for God to really be the power move that
I'm just meek during this whole process.
So if you guys could keep me in prayer in the month of
September, that would be super critical for me.
Yeah, absolutely. 100%. Damn Nate, you look that that
whole that camera. That camera is pro dude.
Look at that. Looks like a movie.
Just a little Canon camera. Yeah, but that looks.
Like a Chuck, he has the board in the background where all the
red strings should be attached. Yeah, I'm still building mine.
Yeah, I'm just gonna do that just for looks.
It's not even connecting anything, just so I could look
straight. It reminds me of that Charlie
for an episode where he's where he's everything in the
background. Yeah, yeah.
That's some of my actual, like, old research from Mufon too.
So it's actually legit, Yeah. Call those.
They call them murder Boards, which is?
Well, ominous, I don't call it. Murder Report.
Thank you for laughter. All right.
So are we recording? Chuck?
Should I? Yeah, it's already recording, so
we're good to go, man, whenever you already.
We are good. Everyone's coming in clean about
level so. Cool, right?