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Hello, folks, this is Princess, 
you are listening to the 

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millennial Mustard Seed, pod 
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Thanks for listening. 
Don't forget to share with your 

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friends. 
I stopped wearing a very tough 

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spot. 
I think that what we're doing 

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right now is a great benefit and
virtue because it's an 

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end-around between this whole 
corrupt informational system 

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media system. 
We claim to believe in a God who

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spoke the universe into 
existence and literally raised 

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himself from the dead. 
And yet, we're not going to 

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believe that anything else 
exists in the spirit realm, even

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though his word tells us that 
they do, Their bodies weren't 

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permitted to go to sleep, like 
humans, do. 

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And there were permitted to go 
to heaven. 

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So they wander the Earth, you 
know, I've seen the eyes turned 

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black to tongues being spoken. 
These Giants were love way up 

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with all the upgrades. 
The young man was high up in the

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trees, the way for one of these,
twelve Footers to come walking 

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down the back and they would 
jump on kill Dragon back. 

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Then people start to get 
weapons, I start to get armor, 

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they start to build cities, they
social fortify their cities. 

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Now, God looks down and there's 
violence everywhere. 

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The battle this war that we are 
at, is not against each other. 

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It's against these 
principalities in these rulers 

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in, these are cons in high 
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It's really worthwhile to read 
the Bible. 

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Use fear is one of the primary 
drivers of mind control because 

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we have to take every thought 
captive and resist. 

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You're going to have a testimony
that is a Justice case against 

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the kingdom of darkness. 
Welcome back to the show. 

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Here we are season 4, episode 1,
it's been quite a journey. 

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I hope you guys liked that new 
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It's a little bit long, but the 
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in half and alternating between 
that really awesome new 

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introduction. 
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the last three seasons, it's 
just highlights and clips that I

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thought were important. 
And that really do lay out the 

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premises of the show. 
I have an exciting episode for 

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you guys. 
Vicki, Joy Anderson is here and 

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we talk about sleep paralysis. 
She wrote a book on it. 

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She's dealt with sleep paralysis
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And literally the conversation 
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breakdown of how were viewing 
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understanding and growing as I 
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And we kind of just shoot back 
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realest topics. 
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paralysis has been broken down 
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that it is here with us on this 
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You guys are here, but I'm not 
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You guys ready for this episode?
I'm Welcome back to the show 

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everybody. 
I have an excellent episode in 

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store for you tonight. 
Vicki Joy. 

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It is a honor to have you here 
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Thank you so much for being 
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Thank you. 
Thank you so much for having me.

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This will be fun. 
Yeah, this is gonna be great. 

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You're the expert in a topic. 
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under the radar. 
Nobody like a church will talk 

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about this. 
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from this all the time, and this
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How long have you been looking 
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Paralysis Vicki? 
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training since I was about 3 
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paralysis, right? 
So I was an unwitting, an 

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unwilling volunteer, but I 
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The, the phrase sleep paralysis 
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I tell you I was shocked because
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was the only person in the world
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like you said, nobody talks 
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back in the 70s and 80s, right? 
Then, you can land yourself in a

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psych ward on heavy psychotropic
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If you did talk to people about 
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apology. 
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30s and I was listening to it as
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was still going and it was kind 
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when you wake up in the middle 
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and you're kind of half asleep, 
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realize that my podcast was 
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Verbatim explaining my exact 
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I thought, oh my gosh, I'm 
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Like they're taunting me this 
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And and then they said, another 
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yeah, that they call that sleep 
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I mean, I just went cold and so 
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revolutionary. 
Moment in my life because it was

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somewhat off-putting and 
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know that this wasn't like, just
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CompuServe in a couple like 
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I mean the the internet was out 
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find stuff and it was just 
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So I the next day I kind of was 
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hundreds of people, describing 
this experience and it blew my 

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mind. 
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some, like, strange dreams in, a
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life, but it wasn't until real 
real recently that I experienced

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sleep paralysis and I didn't 
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saying like we hear these terms 
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always know exactly what it 
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Who knows with language. 
Chuck miss, you should say it's 

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hermeneutical hygiene, right? 
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tight and clean in the way that 
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If we're serious about what 
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But we're I come out of a 
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really have no idea what the 
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is anymore. 
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someone experienced her of this 
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feel it in their voice, you just
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happened to them Amiga slap 
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Alone if you want. 
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Vicki, like, I, I'm an empath 
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to slow down and like care, 
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like, what's going in your life?
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Because we all have a story, 
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But, sleep, paralysis is one of 
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and when, when we say sleep 
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but there's a couple different 
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I don't know the language. 
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deep sleep or like REM sleep and
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you know, relax is itself so 
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when you're sleeping, right? 
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where people get trapped and 
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there and that and I'm like, 
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this because What happened with 
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Vicky. 
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think it was longer than 10 
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go this far and share like 
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podcast. 
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like God is really going to make
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chosen ones, the body body of 
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that are like at the button-down
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the gutters that are calling 
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battle. 
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little bit more vulnerable, I 
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protection and just more 
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I wake up and it must have been 
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And as soon as I don't even 
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whatever like I acknowledge that
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watching what's going on around 
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There's a large creature in the 
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I just and I don't even remember
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their thighs were just slits and
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He was blacker than black and he
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even explain it. 
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and be like in the name Christ 
you get out of here now and I 

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couldn't lift my arm. 
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and I literally remember in 
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I had more recent than not a 
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here. 
And I said, I'll just say it 

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silently in my head and you'll 
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Christ you get out of here, and 
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able to make a fist. 
My fingers bent and I was like, 

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I like, yes. 
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like up in the air, like it's so
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I don't know if I woke up, then 
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I don't know how this stuff 
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presents left, but it like I 
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little droplets of sweat coming 
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my wife and I grabbed her. 
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So then I get up and start 
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know, whatever I'm not going to 
keep rumbling on, but that, that

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bothered me because not that I 
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with sleep paralysis, I don't 
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Veil memories or dreams or what 
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because here I am at the end of 
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Yeah, it's interesting that you 
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Avail the memories and things 
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wrote the book beyond science 
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I think it's called something to
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about the UFO Abduction 
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few kind of hat tips to sleep 
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but he's the first one I ever 
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That like a UFO Abduction. 
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And when I first heard this, I 
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dissonance. 
I didn't really want to 

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contemplate that possibility 
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I thought, what I was dealing 
with because you these events 

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are so traumatic that you have a
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Of them, unlike night terrors. 
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sleep paralysis. 
Experiencers typically have a 

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very Vivid recall of what has 
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explain in great detail. 
Like you just did what they saw.

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What they felt kind of, all five
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of big explain smells. 
They explain everything. 

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memory or this episode that you 
don't remember opens up a whole 

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nother host of potential 
possibilities as to what could 

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be going on. 
You don't even have a memory of 

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and where this gets scary where 
this gets scary is you you lose 

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out on a couple of the features 
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A lot of people who have the UFO
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immediate recall of what 
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Now that stuff can be, you know,
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which is a Christian. 
I would never recommend, but 

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memories can come back slowly 
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It's kind of like the same thing
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or MKUltra sufferers will talk 
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memories will start coming back.
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But what they, what they do know
is I know something happened 

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because I have this this missing
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And the clever albeit diabolical
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If it is the same type of thing 
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You know, alarm goes off at 6:00
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Let's say we've been asleep, 
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on, you know, are sleeping 
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No one's going to wake up at 
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Go, oh my gosh, I have missing 
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accurately, a preternatural, we 
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know, if our memory has been 
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for missing time then how will 
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And the the scary fact of the 
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many cases, there are sleep 
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episodes that they remember, and
they have episodes that they do 

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not remember. 
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there are people out there who 
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sleep paralysis who may have 
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recalling it. 
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potentially frightening in this 
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the time in the Christian 
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Why do we have so many people? 
Who are I'm? 

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Talking about legitimate 
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I'm not talking about the Pew 
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I'm talking about people who 
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They're seeking to obey him, 
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They're living a pure Godly life
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There's depression, there's 
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shame. 
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wounds and no matter how The 
books, they read, or how many 

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little devotionals they buy or 
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the things that were supposed to
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Why do so many people in the 
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May not get over that hurdle and
move past that mile marker where

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they have Victory and joy and 
contentment in all these things 

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that Christ purchased for us and
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And I think that there are many 
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Ella of the topic that we're 
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people in their own times of 
prayer to seek through prayer, 

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and to beseech, the spirit to 
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If there were any astral 
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knowledge that need to be undone
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people Rod. 
They stop me. 

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This is where the Christians get
triggered and they say They 

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can't. 
That's a violation of our free 

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will. 
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That's not fair. 
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And I understand that point of 
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back to Genesis, the very first 
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making an alliance with the 
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trickery, they were, they were 
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She was seduced. 
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any different now and was it a 
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She got tricked, but God didn't 
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going to hit the reset button 
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that doesn't count. 
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that. 
And so what I'll end on this and

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then we can move on. 
But what, what I have had to 

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work through in my own life and 
I do address this in my book, 

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quite a bit in chapter 4. 
What we have to address is, it's

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not just enough to say Jesus in 
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know, calling on the name of 
Jesus, will get the entity out 

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of your bedroom in that moment, 
but more has to be done to make 

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sure, whatever open door that 
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closed. 
So you have to do your due 

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diligence to make sure whatever 
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walked through to access me. 
Was that door open and what door

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is it? 
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pray. 
And really ask for Supernatural,

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wisdom and discernment in what 
opened this door and what can I 

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do? 
What do I need to do? 

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To close these doors? 
Because I'm telling you from 

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experience, and from the 
hundreds of people, I've talked 

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to, for every one that remembers
a sleep paralysis experience, 

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there's people that don't 
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And when they pray these 
prayers, To break these 

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covenants that they have made 
with, with these other entities.

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Not only is it freed them not 
only has it. 

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Stopped the sleep paralysis, but
those brick walls that they were

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hitting in their faith where 
they could not get, they were 

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doing all the church, the going 
to church and reading the Bible 

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and doing the bible study 
lessons and leading the small 

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group, but they didn't have the 
joy. 

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They didn't have the affection. 
They didn't have the passion to 

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see his face and Heaven one day 
that emotional connection. 

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Ian wasn't there. 
Once these aberrant betrothal 

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covenants that have been made in
the astral with these anti 

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bridegroom's were broken and 
they were able to, then 100% 

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legally, be married to the 
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only that intimacy then was able
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You hit on so many important 
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I mean, yeah. 
Eve's beguiled in the garden, 

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right? 
Like she's she's tricked. 

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There's something going on there
and yeah. 

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Christians do start to cut out 
at that. 

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Oh no. 
We can't be deceived. 

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Know we all have free will pour.
It's like we have free will to 

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call on the name of God. 
Like like we know when we're 

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kids, right? 
Like if you're going to steal or

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do something bad like, you know,
as bad, like nobody really has 

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to teach you that on the inside,
its Screaming out, do not steal 

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that pedal bike or whatever 
you're thinking about doing, but

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that concerts can be sheared 
over time like calloused, right?

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And some people make a life out 
of crime then, but if you talk 

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to him and you've ever talked 
with like, you know, somebody 

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who has a reputation like that. 
They'll tell you, I knew it was 

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wrong when I was younger, but 
they're not just didn't care 

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anymore. 
And that's such a common thing 

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and I go I think our Free Will 
is to acknowledge like, God, you

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are, who you say, you are, 
you're there and I can call on 

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your name, and then you're 
hitting on the, and most 

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Christians might not even want 
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Vicki where they're just willing
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Hey, it's so much deeper, and 
weirder, and darker, and there's

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so many different layers to 
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Onion, we are not even 
scratching the surface right now

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on the reality of what's really 
going on. 

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We've been systematically 
desensitized by. 

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Encampments that were not 
willing to acknowledge exists. 

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So, therefore, if my Jesus is 
this big, but he's not big 

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enough to overcome, you know, 
intergalactical alien races or 

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whatever. 
I'm just saying like I'm not 

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it's not out of the question for
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I'm not putting God in a box. 
That's the whole purpose of this

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show in the journey is like I'm 
not going to put God in a box. 

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I know what the word says and 
the word. 

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There's a lot of smoking guns 
and alludes to a lot of 

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different things. 
I'm not a theologian. 

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I'm the guy next door and I got 
weird. 

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Questions and everybody has a 
different answer but when I pray

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and talk with God about it, I 
feel peace that he's in control 

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and he's the power move. 
He is who he says he is and he's

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way more wild than I could wrap 
my head around so I have to 

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almost be okay with being 
malleable to the extent of man. 

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If this church over here I say 
church I think people most 

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people say Church they think 
building Cena meme today. 

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I can't believe people say they 
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Because the Hypocrites and then 
it was like, some guy's face 

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making a funny face. 
And he said, underneath his, he 

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said, that's like, not wanting 
to go to the gym because people 

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are out of shape their the 
thought it was funny to like, 

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you know, the out I'm like, 
yeah, I'm a set like but then I 

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started thinking about it and 
I'm like, bro, people that come 

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into the church if they're 
really going to like become like

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David. 
He was like, all right. 

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Now I'm going to go to the house
of the Lord. 

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I'm going to worship right here.
Just showing up just because it 

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was cool. 
And then cracking jokes about 

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people that weren't going 
because whatever like he was 

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like, nah, like I'm a soldier 
I'm coming in, I need to eat the

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bread that's on the show table 
because me and the guys are 

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starving. 
We've been out here, exposing 

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the darkness. 
We've been out here rattling, 

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the cage. 
We've been out here, exposing 

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the enemy. 
We've been out here taking hits.

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We've been out here getting 
bombs dropped on us and you guys

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are sitting around here. 
Eating cupcakes, making me US. 

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Amen. 
I'm sorry I didn't even think I 

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would go, but I'm so involved 
in, like, emotionally what I'm 

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saying, I felt the Holy Spirit 
there because if this is the 

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last generation people need to 
hear this, maybe maybe I need to

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take a better approach. 
May be new to like slow down. 

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Just be cool because I don't 
want to offend anybody who 

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listens to this. 
But I want people to know when, 

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when we come to the church, like
who's got the gift of servitude,

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because we might need you to 
wrap some wounds. 

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The Bible says he who is 
spiritual? 

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Come alongside and help your 
brother at the get, who's got 

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the gift of healing because the 
prophecy, right? 

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Like not despising those things 
on just letting them be what 

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they are. 
And I feel like there's this 

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cookie cutter mentality with 
Christianity, where people 

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filter things through. 
And they joke really, elaborate 

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lie really complex jokes about 
this isn't that? 

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But they're not aware of the 
fact that like the battle the 

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battles out here and when I'm 
out here in the gutter and 

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somebody's long, sodomy crime 
with me and laughing with me, 

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whatever I'm going through and 
they're going through like that 

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is The church, bro. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Well, and we've, we've gone from

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the biblical language which is 
extremely militaristic. 

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We have language, like, Great 
Commission, which is it, which 

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is a military term. 
And we have, you know, we lose 

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it in the English but, you know,
Yahweh several old, you know, 

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it's the god of the captain of 
the armies, you know? 

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And and there's a lot of 
metaphors in Scripture that are 

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comparing Us to soldiers and 
we've kind of moved from the 

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front lines of battle to the 
triage tent. 

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Here, we are two thousand years 
later and we're still all using 

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military terms, but we're all in
the triage tent showing each 

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other, our wounds and counseling
each other. 

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And and I'm not saying there's 
not a time and a place to 

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minister to each other and 
encourage one another. 

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But nobody really wants to heal 
in the triage tent and get Back 

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on the battlefield, you know, 
we're all kind of stuck in the 

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triage tent at this point. 
So I'm in agreement with what 

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you're saying about the David 
and the showbread and and the 

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warfare that's out there, we can
stick our heads in the sand and 

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say that we're in a new 
civilized era and there's no 

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persecution and there's no 
Warfare but as well as Russ 

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dizdar used to say, if you bury 
your head in the sand, you're 

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just, you know, priming yourself
to get kicked in the butt 

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because your butts in the air. 
If your heads in the sand. 

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Nikki, I think that that's why 
this is like so important. 

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I was saying to La. 
I'm like man, this is a podcast.

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Ultimately, I'd never considered
it to be in a Ministry. 

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I was just I wanted to take this
journey, I wanted to do 

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something unique, by capturing 
the process of the journey, 

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because I knew what God had told
me in the secrecy of my heart 

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that I can't divulge on, but I 
knew I didn't know how it was 

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going to go down. 
So I was like, let's record the 

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process and I'm just going to 
start asking all the questions 

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that nobody will answer the 
sleep paralysis, right? 

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The night mirrors. 
The deja vu like what do you 

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name it? 
Whatever the millennial 

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generation My Generation. 
We grow up and now we have these

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super computers, all the sudden 
and our pockets. 

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Yeah. 
We're not like fighting to like 

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dial-up. 
I'm ever uses like fight with 

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my, you know, siblings that dial
up but they're like stop piling 

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up. 
I need to get on the phone, 

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right? 
Little the cord stretch 10 feet 

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across as they're like fighting 
for the List. 

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Did, you know cup of juice? 
Like, it was so much different 

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when I was a kid. 
Then what we see today, but when

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we were coming into adulthood, 
we have super computers in our 

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pockets. 
Yeah, right. 

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This is a peculiar time to be 
alive. 

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Now, we're in 2023 and I'm 
looking around and I'm going all

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of these messages and signals 
all of this confusion and Chaos.

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It is going to knock on 
everybody's door, some point. 

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So what Vicki? 
And I are saying, right now, 

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Thank you. 
Aurora said, get your head out 

447
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of the sand and if your heads in
the sand, don't come crying to 

448
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:31,200
me if you get kicked in the 
butt. 

449
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:34,700
Right, you know, like but the 
whole purpose is like this 

450
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:40,400
pocket is just started to 
actually like become Other 

451
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,000
people's Journeys to other 
people that I can relate or oh, 

452
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,900
you know, they kind of were 
like, out of Crossroad or they 

453
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:48,600
were like, hey, that was some 
unanswered. 

454
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,100
Questions. 
I have five years ago in the 

455
00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:52,200
same Journey, you're on. 
And I just started understand, 

456
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,300
you know what God, you're just 
so much bigger than us and we 

457
00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:01,000
cannot be ashamed. 
Let the redeemed of the Lord 

458
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,100
say, so, right, like, if we're 
being redeemed and Sanctified by

459
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:07,700
him, I don't know what the big 
deal is, we should be able to 

460
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:10,800
cover these topics. 
So Vicki you study for like what

461
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,000
15 plus years about sleep 
paralysis and you're bringing a 

462
00:27:14,008 --> 00:27:17,100
lot of wealth to this 
conversation for me and helping 

463
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:21,500
me to just really break a little
bit more of the shell off myself

464
00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:23,900
of like, you know what? 
Yeah, we're going to slap on 

465
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:27,100
sleep paralysis on this title. 
So a bunch of people are out 

466
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:28,500
there. 
They're like, you know what 

467
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:29,500
clickbait? 
Yeah, go ahead. 

468
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:32,400
Go on it, and if they get mad at
me, it's like, Well, why'd you 

469
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,600
click on it, then you seen sleep
trousers. 

470
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,300
Like, don't be mad at me. 
Listen to the whole thing, 

471
00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:42,100
right? 
That's what's going on with 

472
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:44,000
these these entities. 
How do you think you? 

473
00:27:44,008 --> 00:27:46,700
So, you talked about like the 
UFO background a little bit or 

474
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:50,900
what? 
Oh, look. 

475
00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:52,600
You do still have either? 
Yeah. 

476
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:55,000
Yep, I'm still here. 
Why don't you just show you one 

477
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,800
offline? 
This is I saw I saw that little 

478
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,500
pop-up thing too, but I am still
here. 

479
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,400
Here. 
Okay. 

480
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,000
Well hopefully it's still 
recording. 

481
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,800
Both of us on my end and I'll 
just edit this little part out 

482
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:11,000
later. 
Okay, of course. 

483
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,300
Yeah, definitely, definitely 
understand that this is a This 

484
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:20,100
is pretty normal at this point, 
it's all good. 

485
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,600
You know what, Vicki at this 
point if the enemy is trying to 

486
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,900
steal the Airways and this isn't
recorded, and I can't edit this 

487
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:30,500
out later, like let's just say, 
it's just me, talking, will go 

488
00:28:30,508 --> 00:28:33,300
and come back again. 
Well, pray up a little bit more 

489
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:36,900
on and really punch the devil in
the face with with this one, but

490
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:40,000
tell me, so tell me what's going
on in your opinion, like what is

491
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,200
your research led to, and Do you
think that there's different 

492
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,900
camps? 
Is it all one camp? 

493
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:49,200
But they're just like changing 
the mask and torturing people 

494
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,900
with paralysis or do you think 
this really is an abduction? 

495
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Yeah, that's a great. 
That's a great question. 

496
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:00,800
And I might have had a different
answer if you'd ask me even 

497
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,500
three years ago. 
But even just in my research 

498
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:11,300
since the book came out, I am 
really coming to the conclusion,

499
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,800
maybe not every time, in every 
case you do nothing in the world

500
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,700
really works 100% of the time, 
it's 100% always the same thing.

501
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:24,000
But I know there's people that I
had sleep paralysis once or 

502
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,300
twice when I was a teenager Ager
and or I had it once after a 

503
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:30,700
divorce or a really stressful 
time, but I'm kind of talking 

504
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:33,400
about the people who have been 
harassed with this over the 

505
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,300
course of their whole life. 
I do think that it is an 

506
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:41,500
abduction scenario and it's a 
transformational process. 

507
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:44,700
I talked about that a lot in the
book, kind of the theme of it, 

508
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:51,100
is this transformational process
and kind of where I like to 

509
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:53,600
start. 
Just so, you know, a lot of 

510
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,800
Christians, they want the 
chapter and they The verse is 

511
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,000
specially, when you're talking 
about supernatural stuff, I do 

512
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,800
think that sleep paralysis is 
mentioned in scripture, but not 

513
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,300
much is said about it, it's 
obviously not fully unraveled 

514
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:11,300
for us, but we're, I like to 
take the bereans out there who, 

515
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:13,900
who are seeking chapter and 
verse in their testing every 

516
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:17,900
spirit is I like to take people 
to Ephesians 6:12 and then do a 

517
00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:22,300
little bit of a deeper dive. 
And when we talk about these 

518
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:26,000
rulers and authorities depending
on what Ian, you're reading 

519
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:32,300
archons, Fallen Angels, 
spiritual entities, of darkness,

520
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:35,400
and evil. 
It seems to give us at least 

521
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,000
four categories, and I think 
there's more than four 

522
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,200
categories, and, but it's kind 
of giving this General overview 

523
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:49,300
that this these high places 
contain more than just, you 

524
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:53,100
know, what we would classically 
call a demon or a fallen angel 

525
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:57,100
and going back to what you What 
about Missler with the 

526
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:58,800
hermeneutical? 
Hygiene? 

527
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:04,500
I think a lot of churchgoers. 
Demon is sort of this catch-all.

528
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,300
Anything, evil, anything 
strange, anything oppressive. 

529
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,500
Anything you're acting is a 
demon and a demon is a very 

530
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:14,900
specific thing. 
A fallen angel is a very 

531
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:17,300
specific thing. 
A ruler and argon. 

532
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,000
These are specifically different
things and then when you get 

533
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,100
into the house for realm 
ascended masters, that's 

534
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,300
something completely different. 
Different, a spirit guide is 

535
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:28,500
something different. 
There's human beings crawling 

536
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,800
around up there. 
There's cultists and and things 

537
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,500
like that. 
And so we're I like to take 

538
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:37,500
people just so we're all kind of
on the same page from the get-go

539
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:43,100
is if you delve into the meaning
of the high places because this 

540
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:46,600
is the location of these 
entities. 

541
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,400
And we know that these entities 
are our enemies. 

542
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,500
They're not our friends because 
it says, at the beginning of the

543
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,400
verse that the Is not against 
flesh and blood. 

544
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,600
There we go with militaristic 
terms, again the battle. 

545
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,600
This war that we are at is not 
against each other. 

546
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,200
It's against these 
principalities in these rulers 

547
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,800
in, these are cons in the high 
places. 

548
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:12,000
So it gives us the location and 
the English translations, high 

549
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,500
places, Heavenly places. 
If you go to the Greek, it's Epi

550
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:19,600
rainiest. 
And if you study Epi rainiest 

551
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Beyond just the lexical form 
definition in a Greek 

552
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:29,100
dictionary, you You go into the 
contextual meaning of it in that

553
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:35,300
verse and how it's placed and 
how its conjugated it takes on a

554
00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:40,300
meaning of the lower heavens of 
the earth. 

555
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:48,700
So it's not it's not the throne 
room of God, the the throne room

556
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:53,500
where God dwells and where 
there's a throne and, and the 

557
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:57,900
seraphim and Posh maleme are 
there, and Jesus is at the right

558
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,500
hand. 
That's not the place crawling 

559
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:04,700
with Spirit guides and ascended,
masters, and people who hate us.

560
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:09,500
And so, it's a differentiation 
of the heaven, the way, a 

561
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,600
Christian were defined heaven, 
but it's also not talking about 

562
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,300
the sky, you know, you look up 
and you see an airplane in the 

563
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:23,600
clouds, it is a dimensional 
plane where these evil things 

564
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,600
hang out. 
And where it gets tough to have 

565
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,400
discussions, like this Rod is 
that sleep, paralysis, affects 

566
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,100
everyone of every religion. 
It's not something that just 

567
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,400
happens to Christians, but it 
happens to a lot. 

568
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,100
Yeah, six, yeah, it happens to 
new agers, it happens to 

569
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,800
atheists, it happens to 
Buddhists Hindus Native America.

570
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,800
It doesn't matter what your 
religion is or what your culture

571
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,200
is it happens. 
And so what we have to 

572
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:59,500
understand, is we Have different
words for this place and the 

573
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:02,800
words can be very triggering. 
So if you say heaven, you can 

574
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,800
potentially offend someone who's
not a Christian, if you say 

575
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,199
astral plane, then you're going 
to trigger Christians because 

576
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,000
that's an evil place and don't 
talk about astral projection. 

577
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:20,000
And there's been media that I've
been involved with Rod where 

578
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,100
I've been instructed beforehand 
that I can't use the word astral

579
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:33,100
and All astral means is of or 
pertaining to the heavens, The 

580
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:35,699
Starry hosts. 
We know from Genesis 1 that 

581
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:40,600
these things were created by 
God, they are for seasons and 

582
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:46,100
for signs and for more Dean, 
there's nothing intrinsically in

583
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:50,500
and of itself evil or new age, 
or a cultic about the starry 

584
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,199
hosts. 
Now, when you start bowing down 

585
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,800
and worshiping the starry, Or 
you start astral projecting into

586
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,500
those Dimensions to to seek 
knowledge from these things. 

587
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:06,600
Well yeah, now you've got a 
problem but yeah, acknowledging 

588
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,400
that there is an existence of an
astral plane is not endorsing it

589
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:17,600
or saying you should go there. 
I'm so for, for just the sake of

590
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,000
everyone being on the same page,
whether you call it, the astral 

591
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,800
realm, or the astral plane, or 
the lower astral, or the second 

592
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,100
heaven, or or the upper Aeneas 
or the high places or the 

593
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:31,800
Heavenly places. 
Basically, what we're just 

594
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,000
trying to differentiate as this 
place is not earth. 

595
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:37,900
Hmm. 
And this place is not the throne

596
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:42,000
room of almighty God. 
There is a place somewhere in 

597
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,600
the universe somewhere, 
dimensionally where the riffraff

598
00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:51,500
who are enemies of God and 
enemies of our soul, hang out, 

599
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,100
and they are looking for any 
opening. 

600
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:03,100
They can get to lure you or drag
you up there for the purpose of 

601
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:10,000
transforming, your soul into the
image and the doctrines of their

602
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:12,700
Messiah. 
Not the Messiah of the 

603
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:17,100
scriptures. 
It just keeps building and 

604
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,800
built. 
Like I hope the audience is like

605
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,700
seriously hanging with us all 
because this is a good one. 

606
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:26,500
Like I'm like, I'm sorry to grip
the chair a little bit and I'm 

607
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:30,300
like, I'm like, okay, I'm like, 
deja vu fits in that category as

608
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:32,700
like his Universal doesn't 
matter Pond religions. 

609
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,500
You have all these words, 
hivemind parallel universe, 

610
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:38,600
astral projection right, produce
science. 

611
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,600
I mean, you name it, right? 
And then you have to SRA 

612
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,500
victims, you got people that 
have been abused by By a cult 

613
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:49,500
and dark followers of what? 
I'm not even going to name their

614
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:52,700
names on here. 
It's just it's they don't have 

615
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:55,000
power. 
They have power with what they 

616
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,900
have power with, but they serve 
an inferior God. 

617
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,100
He's weaker whoever they're 
serving and getting orders from 

618
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,400
he is not like the Cod that I 
serve. 

619
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:11,500
Amen. 
And I wonder Is that why? 

620
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Most I know I'm not a judge. 
I don't want people to get the 

621
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,000
wrong idea when I'm about to say
this because it could be taken 

622
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,200
the wrong way, but there's a lot
of people in church and it seems

623
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,500
like certain people are targeted
in church with with bearing 

624
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:36,200
through life, with all of these.
all of these, like our Things. 

625
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,100
Coming against them. 
Everything goes wrong. 

626
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:39,600
Nothing really works out for 
them. 

627
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,500
They're dragging a chain and a 
ball and most people can't even 

628
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:46,100
see it. 
And that hardship, and 

629
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:49,900
deprivation is sometimes written
on the sleeve of the shirt that 

630
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:54,200
they wear and they really truly 
want to be free. 

631
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,600
There really have been through 
the ringer most and like you 

632
00:37:57,607 --> 00:38:00,000
were saying earlier Vicki if 
they try to talk about if they 

633
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,400
tried to actually give you a 
paragraph and describe to you 

634
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,400
what they may have dealt with. 
Recently. 

635
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,800
They're afraid to do that. 
If they did, you might want to 

636
00:38:09,808 --> 00:38:11,900
put them in a padded room. 
Yeah. 

637
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,500
And it's like, okay, well right 
now, I mean, this is how it's 

638
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:19,200
been and it's still kinda is 
like that, but now I've been 

639
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,400
noticing, like, CEOs and like 
law enforcement. 

640
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,000
I mean, I've talked with people,
I won't get name names, but I 

641
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,200
can't believe that 56 years ago.
I was getting made fun of for 

642
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,200
these topics in the people that 
come to me and talk with me now 

643
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,300
and ask me questions. 
I'm just like man you need to 

644
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,000
get in the word and yes it is 
all real. 

645
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:40,600
Why are those people getting 
picked on in the church? 

646
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,800
Now, there's a could be a couple
theories, right? 

647
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Just the way, my mind is working
here, Vicki. 

648
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:50,000
Maybe there's a large scoop of 
people in the church that are 

649
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,700
there there because deep down 
inside, they're looking, the 

650
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:56,700
trigger words, are where is this
king of Mercy? 

651
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,500
Where's the king of Grace, 
right? 

652
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,100
But then, there's this like 
facade that, like this fake 

653
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,800
thing that's being projected out
because of trauma and torments, 

654
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,100
or just confusion or just the 
culture. 

655
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:11,100
So they're kind of sitting there
in like, right? 

656
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,800
Like the kind of stagnant right 
there. 

657
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,800
Just kind of like waiting for. 
I don't know, maybe the right 

658
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,300
time or their strength of their 
own Spirit to start to get 

659
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:24,900
refreshed, whether it be through
the gospel, being spread the 

660
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:28,300
true gospel actually waking 
through that area or not. 

661
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,200
But then, you have other people 
that seem like, they're just 

662
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,000
waking up. 
So, I'm just like the movie, The

663
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,200
Matrix, like, but some people 
have no idea what's going on at 

664
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,700
all. 
You got these other camps that 

665
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:39,000
are just like, Like, what are 
they talking about sitting there

666
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,300
and churches? 
Just texting, you know, Amazon 

667
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,300
order on the way they you got a 
nice car. 

668
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:45,700
All their bills are paid. 
They got big plans to go travel,

669
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,300
right? 
They have no idea what it's like

670
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,600
to walk around limping and 
saying God help. 

671
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,400
I mean some of my prayers have 
just been caught he'll help. 

672
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:08,000
Is the Veil Just thinning to the
point where the injured are 

673
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,500
being coming, more visible. 
I'm going to, I'm going to 

674
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:13,100
address this. 
I'm and I'm going to start 

675
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,500
somewhere where you might think 
that I'm changing the topic but 

676
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:16,900
I'm not I'm coming around to 
this. 

677
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:22,900
So to Job chapter 4, this is I 
think the most blatant example 

678
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,900
of sleep paralysis that we have 
in scripture and a lot of people

679
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:30,400
get this wrong they just assume 
because it's in the Book of Job 

680
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,400
that part of jobs tour. 
I meant is that he was also 

681
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,600
having sleep paralysis. 
Like oh the poor guy, he's got 

682
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,800
all this going on and plus he 
can't even get a good night's 

683
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,900
sleep. 
They're coming out of that 

684
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:40,700
night. 
But what a lot of people don't 

685
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:44,200
understand is that this in this 
chapter it's not joke who's 

686
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:50,100
suffering the sleep paralysis. 
It is elif as one of his not so 

687
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:54,400
theologically, correct 
comforters and so Job, 14 13 

688
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,100
through 16 says amid disquieting
thoughts from the visions of the

689
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:02,000
night. 
When deep sleep falls on men, 

690
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:06,200
Dread Came Upon me and trembling
and made all my bones. 

691
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,200
Shake, then a spirit passed by 
my face and the hair of my flesh

692
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,400
bristled up. 
It's still it stood still, but I

693
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,700
could not discern his appearance
of form was before my eyes. 

694
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:23,700
There was silence, then I Heard 
a Voice then eliphaz goes on to 

695
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:30,700
explain the wisdom that came 
from this spiritual visitor and 

696
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,400
what he's basically doing. 
Doing is what a lot of people in

697
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,700
the modern Church. 
Do when they give you advice, 

698
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,600
God told me this. 
I have a message for you from 

699
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,700
God. 
When you start a sentence, when 

700
00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:48,500
you preface a sentence with what
I'm about to say, comes from the

701
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:53,200
mouth of God, that makes the 
sufferer incapable of arguing 

702
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,000
with you without coming off as 
being full of hubris. 

703
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,000
You're arguing with the words of
God. 

704
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,900
And so what eliphaz is doing is 
the equivalent of Hey, a spirit 

705
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:08,000
from Heaven came down and 
visited me and gave me this 

706
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,600
advice for you. 
So in other words, you can't 

707
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,000
argue with me, I have the upper 
hand in this conversation 

708
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,900
because this came from the mouth
of someone from the spirit realm

709
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:22,600
and some Angel. 
And we know from the end of the 

710
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:29,300
book that elephants had to be, 
you know, job had to offer 

711
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:32,400
sacrifices on behalf of the 
foolish counsel that these He's 

712
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,100
friends gave what the friends 
were saying this is getting 

713
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:37,100
around to your question. 
About people, nowadays in the 

714
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:38,900
church who wear this on their 
sleeves. 

715
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,000
What what eliphaz and his two 
buddies were were trying to 

716
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,000
explain to job. 
Is your suffering is because you

717
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,200
are a sinful man, you are 
unrighteous, you have 

718
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:57,200
unconfessed sin, so surely you 
deserve this somehow, you're 

719
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,300
you're getting just punishment 
for your. 

720
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:04,400
Unfaithfulness, you have open. 
And doors and this is your 

721
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,600
comeuppance. 
And unfortunately what happens 

722
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,800
when you strip the Church of 
everything Supernatural, if you 

723
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,200
take the supernatural out of the
scriptures, you take it out of 

724
00:43:17,207 --> 00:43:20,500
the vernacular, you take it out 
of the comfort zone of what 

725
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:23,600
pastors and parishioners are 
allowed to speak about. 

726
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:31,900
Then when someone does speak out
about it, they are In the same 

727
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:36,300
situation as job in that the 
council they get from their 

728
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:42,000
friends is usually something to 
the effect of what did you do to

729
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,100
open these doors? 
And then they start asking these

730
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,200
probing questions. 
Like have you ever played with a

731
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,500
Ouija board? 
Have you cheated on your spouse?

732
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:55,600
Do you watch pornography, have 
you ever dabbled in Witchcraft 

733
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:01,700
and and they start asking all 
these questions and And I'm not 

734
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:06,600
saying that sin and unrepentant 
sin and dabbling with witchcraft

735
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,400
and Disobedience, don't open 
spiritual doors, of course they 

736
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,000
do. 
But we have to go beyond that 

737
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:18,400
because there are people as you 
say who have been targeted from 

738
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,100
the womb from the birth from 
childhood. 

739
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:27,200
And one thing that I see 
somewhat consistently in the 

740
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,000
people, I talked to who have had
sleep paralysis their whole life

741
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,700
including myself. 
Is it started from the womb and 

742
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:39,300
many of them will talk about how
they weren't supposed to live or

743
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:42,500
they were born with some sort of
thing, and they fought for their

744
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:45,400
life in the ICU for the first 
month and not all of them are 

745
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,000
that dramatic. 
But many of them will talk about

746
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:53,900
many many experiences throughout
the course of their life, but 

747
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:58,700
you came very close to dying car
accidents, you know, falling off

748
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:03,300
of you know, Roofs and all this.
And you know, it's interesting 

749
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:07,300
as I was, I was interviewing 
people to include case studies 

750
00:45:07,308 --> 00:45:10,600
in my book. 
And in my book, there's not only

751
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,700
does every chapter begin with a 
personal experience, from a 

752
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:16,200
different person, but there's an
entire append is full of 

753
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,500
people's stories as well, but as
I was interviewing people what I

754
00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:24,500
found without even having to ask
as many of these people, as they

755
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:25,800
were telling their stories would
say. 

756
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,400
I almost died like seven times 
between when I was born in. 

757
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,500
Results like that. 
And so it got me thinking. 

758
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:37,500
And I'm like, well, I know that 
I know that I almost died at 

759
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,800
Birth because I was born with 
this severe birth defect and 

760
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,300
whatever but other than that, 
but I was curious. 

761
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:48,200
And so, I started making a list 
and I've been doing this list 

762
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,000
now for maybe three or four 
years. 

763
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,300
And what I, if you would ask me 
like, hey, how many I almost 

764
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:56,900
died experiences? 
Do you have in your life? 

765
00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:59,300
I'd say, like, oh, probably a 
couple of those surgeries I had 

766
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:00,800
were pretty serious, but that's 
all I wanted. 

767
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:04,600
Said but having four years to 
pray over it and contemplate it,

768
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,300
I now have a list of over 18 
times in my life, where I very, 

769
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,100
very seriously, could have died.
And I'm not talking silly little

770
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:18,100
things, I'm talking flying out 
of a Jeep on an exit at 45 miles

771
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:19,600
an hour. 
In my uncle, grabbing me in 

772
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,600
midair and pulling me back into 
the Jeep. 

773
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:25,500
I'm talking about being 
surrounded by eight to ten, six 

774
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:27,900
foot tall, guys. 
All in black, that looked like 

775
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:30,700
ninjas when I was in Mongolia 
and a black market. 

776
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:35,000
Like an open market. 
I mean I'm talking serious stuff

777
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:40,200
swimming pool around and things 
so so all that to say and I do 

778
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,400
talk about this in chapter 6 of 
my book. 

779
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,900
After you've examined yourself 
in the mirror, after you have 

780
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:52,900
had a hard look at doors that 
possibly, you could have opened 

781
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:57,000
after you've confessed sin after
you've gotten on your knees 

782
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,400
before the Lord and you've 
repented of all the foolish 

783
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,200
things you did in your Youth and
the things that you dabbled with

784
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,700
and the doors that you opened. 
If it persists, then you go a 

785
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:09,200
level deeper and you start 
thinking, is there anyone in my 

786
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,100
home with headship a father, a 
husband, a grandfather? 

787
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:17,400
A patriarch? 
Is there someone in my home with

788
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,800
headship that could possibly be 
bringing this in? 

789
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,200
And then you go another level 
and you say, could there be 

790
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,600
something ancestral? 
Could there have been sighted? 

791
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:32,900
Oaths that were made over the 
Entire bloodline or family name.

792
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,600
And then you just keep pushing 
further and further. 

793
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:41,800
But as a final Resort, and I'll 
end it here and let you get in. 

794
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,300
But as a final Resort, I did 
mention in my book that there 

795
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:51,000
are a few occasions in 
scripture, Moses, Jesus and 

796
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,100
Abraham Abraham's account 
actually appears in the book of 

797
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,800
jasher. 
We have three men that the enemy

798
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:05,200
seemed to know before they were 
born, that this guy was going to

799
00:48:05,207 --> 00:48:11,200
be a thorn in their side and 
attempts were made to take their

800
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,500
lives as an infant. 
And so are there cases if we 

801
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:18,900
are? 
Here's a bunch of hypotheticals.

802
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:26,100
If we are in the end generation 
then that means that God is in 

803
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:29,500
the process now. 
Now of gathering and training 

804
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:36,400
and equipping, and end times 
Army who will be able to have 

805
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,000
the discernment to not be fooled
by by the great deception and 

806
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,700
they will not have fear and they
will. 

807
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:49,400
In part be trained through 
spiritual warfare. 

808
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:52,300
David didn't just go out and 
slay Goliath. 

809
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:55,500
He killed the bear and the lion 
first. 

810
00:48:55,900 --> 00:49:01,200
That was his training. 
And so in some cases, perhaps 

811
00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:07,100
the enemy has some sort of an 
idea of who these soldiers are 

812
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:10,500
who the people in. 
This end times, Army are going 

813
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:14,600
to be and he's going to seek 
them out from childhood and he's

814
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,200
going to try everything in his 
power to wipe them out. 

815
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,700
And if you can't wipe them out 
physically, then he'll start to 

816
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,600
wipe them out spiritually. 
They'll start to get them to 

817
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,800
recant or they'll be so hurt. 
Or Go through some sort of 

818
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,500
trauma in their life or they'll 
deny Christ and they'll say it's

819
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:32,200
not worth it. 
And I don't believe in this 

820
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:37,700
anymore or he'll get them 
intrigued with the supernatural 

821
00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:40,000
to the point where they get 
sucked in and they start getting

822
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,800
into false, some false aspects 
of spirituality. 

823
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:48,100
He's going to do whatever he 
can, I think to systematically 

824
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:52,900
wipe this Army out so that, you 
know, when, when it gets to the 

825
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:58,700
battlefield, instead of 10,000, 
maybe they'll be Be 5000 and 

826
00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:01,800
then he feels like he can. 
He can take that, he can take 

827
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,600
them. 
So these are just some of my 

828
00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:07,000
musings as I've talked to other 
people. 

829
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:12,000
And some of this is is 
documented in in the book as 

830
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,500
well. 
Sometimes I feel like I've 

831
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:21,100
stopped at the brook and I'm 
looking down and I'm going to 

832
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:25,100
pick up stones but I keep 
lifting my head up to see how 

833
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,100
many I need to pick up. 
How many brothers does he have. 

834
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:35,300
You know, like when David stops 
he picks up five, smooth stones.

835
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:37,500
And I think there's a lot of 
other people out there that are 

836
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:38,700
right in. 
This weird are everywhere. 

837
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:47,400
It's like I'm about sick of this
barbaric, giant tormenting, my 

838
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:54,100
home, my family, my blessings, 
and how deep, and how far back 

839
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:57,100
like you were saying 
systematically? 

840
00:50:57,100 --> 00:50:58,500
How deep, and how far back does 
it go? 

841
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:00,300
How many stones? 
Do I need to pick up? 

842
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:02,700
Hmm. 
How many brothers does he have? 

843
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:05,500
David picked up five Stones? 
I think Goliath had four 

844
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:08,800
brothers, but Vicki, you said 
some stuff there, it just blows 

845
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,500
me away. 
Some people within the audience 

846
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:13,400
have been asking for quite some 
time for me to do what's called 

847
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,500
an explanation which is I have 
alluded to a lot of these very 

848
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:20,200
interesting things that I've 
experienced throughout the 

849
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,800
course of my life and honestly 
I'm still kind of I'm still on 

850
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,200
the journey. 
There's so much going on, so 

851
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,900
like that, just that scared me a
little bit. 

852
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:33,900
When you're going through it 
because I'm like, oh my gosh. 

853
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:36,600
Like it just keeps getting keeps
getting deeper and we're 

854
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,300
dressing. 
Keep doing this podcast, like 

855
00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:44,200
some of them just like, yeah, 
there's no way at all to get 

856
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,500
around or out of this now, like,
there's no turning back. 

857
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:50,300
It is like this Beyond an 
option. 

858
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:56,500
You're welcome. 
So kind of like, Really put the 

859
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:58,300
icing on the cake. 
I know they said that five 

860
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:01,500
episodes ago, but seriously now 
we're even deeper and it just 

861
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:05,200
keeps happening, but it's 
refreshing in a way because I'm 

862
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,800
also like Like I know God has 
given me peace on certain things

863
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,000
like just peace in my heart 
where I'm just like man I know 

864
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,300
this is going to be okay and 
then sometimes we feel a little 

865
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,800
bit of like the shutter and the 
earthquake of what the world and

866
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,400
the enemy in the dark winds that
Whip and crack the air around 

867
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:27,200
us, it hasn't moved me. 
So I mean I've had people try to

868
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,100
kill me. 
I actually had my near-death 

869
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:33,100
encounter. 
I got jumped by eight guys and 

870
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,700
Yeah, beat it into the ground. 
Like, literally that was like, 

871
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:40,000
my first like real near-death 
encounter happened. 

872
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,100
I think I was 19, 20 years old. 
You know, there's there's other 

873
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:46,100
stuff I just, I can't talk 
about. 

874
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:48,400
Yeah, but it just blows me away 
because there are certain things

875
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,500
where I just like I'll talk to 
God now and just kind of laugh a

876
00:52:51,508 --> 00:52:56,600
little bit and be like Lord as 
like that song. 

877
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,600
I wish I knew what I know now 
when I was younger because this 

878
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:06,300
is like, you know, they did have
me pretty jacked. act up, but As

879
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,900
I went so far in, then I felt 
it's almost like, I'm anchored 

880
00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:15,300
to God somehow. 
And I went as far as you could 

881
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:19,100
possibly go, and then you're 
like, oh you, I can't go no 

882
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:22,100
further and then whatever entity
that might have been stronger. 

883
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:24,300
The trick you to think he was 
stronger than you at the time. 

884
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:27,800
Would try to yank on your arm 
and he'd be like, yo, what? 

885
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,800
No he the lines right there like
a little further and it's like 

886
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,600
they knew like oh Yeah, all 
right reinforcements because 

887
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:41,500
this is one. 
We've really don't want to be 

888
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:45,000
drawn back. 
You see, another thing that when

889
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,800
I was younger, I didn't talk for
years like most people don't, 

890
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,600
don't know this, but here's one 
more thing. 

891
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,500
I'll add to, you know, part of 
the future explanation, they 

892
00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:56,700
held me back in kindergarten 
because I wouldn't say a word to

893
00:53:56,707 --> 00:54:02,800
anybody There's something wrong 
with me and but I was really 

894
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,600
good at art work, you know, like
my dad had came to visit just a 

895
00:54:05,607 --> 00:54:07,400
few months back and I hadn't 
seen him. 

896
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,900
Well, last year I seen them but 
before that it was like five or 

897
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:13,200
six years and I remember him 
saying oh yeah, you know, so 

898
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,600
good at Art when you were a kid.
He's like the teachers would 

899
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,100
just look and they'd be 
perplexed. 

900
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:21,300
They'd be like his artwork is, 
you know, fourth and fifth and 

901
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:27,100
sixth grade status in 
kindergarten, but he, he won't 

902
00:54:27,100 --> 00:54:28,700
talk. 
Or do any of the other work. 

903
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,600
So, you know, they're the flunk 
me and they didn't have terms 

904
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,800
like ADD and ADHD at all these 
crazy terms like when I was a 

905
00:54:34,808 --> 00:54:38,200
kid like now it's like, oh yeah,
you know, I'm borderline 

906
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,200
dyslexic. 
You know, I deal with ADD like 

907
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,100
all these things that like they 
slap terms on. 

908
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:47,100
I'm just like whatever. 
Like okay if that's the language

909
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:49,600
that like helps you understand 
own peculiar, great. 

910
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,300
Cool. 
Let's move on because like you 

911
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:56,700
know, I can't hang there too 
long but yeah. 

912
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:01,100
Then I shouldn't have been born,
you know, I don't really want to

913
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:04,700
get into the details that, you 
know, my dad wanted a son and my

914
00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:06,500
mom. 
They were like, okay, we're 

915
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:08,700
finished, you know, we have 
enough kids and she actually 

916
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:11,400
went to get her tubes tied and 
then found out. 

917
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,200
She was pregnant with me. 
Oh my God, she cried for like 

918
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,400
you know, weeks, she said 
because she just she had thought

919
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,600
like. 
Okay, like this is kids are a 

920
00:55:19,607 --> 00:55:22,700
lot harder than I imagined like 
we're done like we're gonna 

921
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:25,000
budge it. 
We're gonna you know and I think

922
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,400
she was maxed out and then found
out she was pregnant. 

923
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:29,800
Ardent with me. 
So you know, I've heard that my 

924
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,000
whole life too. 
So it's funny that you say that 

925
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,800
because I'm like Oh God, like, 
please help just help. 

926
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,400
That's the power of God just 
help. 

927
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:42,200
Like, keep me humble. 
Keep me engaged with the right 

928
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,500
people. 
There's a lot of false ones that

929
00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:46,600
try to pop up from time to time 
and I feel like I've been 

930
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,300
talking way too long. 
I'm so sorry to the listeners. 

931
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:52,200
You guys. 
This is not the normal 

932
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,800
interview. 
Me, like, sometimes I said this 

933
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:58,500
recently, sometimes I just leave
interview mode and I'm just 

934
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:02,400
like, this is organically the 
best conversation right now 

935
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,600
ever. 
So I don't care. 

936
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,400
Yeah, this is good. 
You know, you use you said some 

937
00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:12,400
key things, whether you realize 
it or not and you know not to go

938
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,400
all psycho Babble on people but 
one of the things that I have 

939
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:23,700
had to struggle with my entire 
life and sometimes I'm aware 

940
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:29,100
that it's there and then 
sometimes I'm completely not 

941
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:30,900
aware of it at all. 
And then the, you know, the 

942
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:32,600
spirit reveals to me like this 
is the route. 

943
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,600
It's always the same route. 
No matter what I thought. 

944
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,900
I figured that out. 
But you know, when you even if 

945
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:42,300
you were raised in a home where 
you were loved and provided for 

946
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:45,100
and taking care of your basic 
needs were being met, they were 

947
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:48,700
being kind to you. 
There was no abuse, there is 

948
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:54,200
something in the spirit realm. 
And I talked about this in the 

949
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,300
book as well. 
We're in my case, when I was 

950
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,300
born, my parents did not know 
that I was going to have a birth

951
00:57:01,300 --> 00:57:02,800
defect. 
So, when I came out, I was 

952
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,400
looking pretty Pretty roughed up
pretty, you know, and they 

953
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,900
didn't know what was going to 
happen or not. 

954
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:15,700
And so my mom told the story 
about how when she was sharing a

955
00:57:15,707 --> 00:57:21,300
room with three other mothers 
and the isolettes got wheeled 

956
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:25,000
in, and every mom was going to 
get a chance for the first time 

957
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:31,500
to hold their baby and the other
three women grab their babies 

958
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:33,400
and we're cooing and everything 
and Mom. 

959
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:38,700
Looked over into the isolette 
and she did not want to pick me 

960
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:43,200
up. 
She was somewhat grossed out, 

961
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,300
right? 
And she didn't want to do it, 

962
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:49,300
and she said that she saw the 
eyes of the other three mothers 

963
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,400
staring at her boring into her, 
like, what is she going to do 

964
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:56,400
and out of pure pressure, out of
fear of, man? 

965
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,300
Not wanting these other mothers 
to think poorly of her. 

966
00:57:59,300 --> 00:58:02,900
She picked me up. 
And so, the first Contact I had 

967
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:06,100
with my mom and my mom's arms, 
she did not want me. 

968
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:10,400
It was that Spirit of Rejection,
and this is what the Babel comes

969
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,400
in, sorry, but That Spirit of 
Rejection. 

970
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:18,100
I've since read this is amazing 
to meet Rod, I have since read 

971
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,100
from Christian psychologist and 
neurologists and things that the

972
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:30,600
bonding between a child and his 
mother doesn't come from the 

973
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,600
breastfeeding and the holding it
comes from when your first born 

974
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:41,600
and the mother makes eye contact
with you and it is the uh, Eye 

975
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,500
contact. 
Wow. 

976
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:46,800
Between you and your mother you 
and your father you that is 

977
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:53,100
where you start to develop your 
whether or not you are wanted in

978
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,500
this world. 
And so because I had a deformed 

979
00:58:56,500 --> 00:59:00,400
face, none of the adults that 
were picking me up and I was 

980
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,800
being picked up few and far 
between. 

981
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,100
I was in the hospital the first 
month of my life and people 

982
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:07,200
weren't cuddling with me. 
No one was looking at me and if 

983
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,300
they were making eye contact 
with me, it was pity and so I 

984
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,600
Went home a month later not 
having been held, not having 

985
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:19,100
been breastfed and not having 
had any real eye contact. 

986
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:24,100
And so, I already knew on some 
level at one month old. 

987
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,000
This world does not want me. 
I don't fit in here, and I went 

988
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,400
into survival mode at one month 
old, and I was in survival mode 

989
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:38,500
until I was 40 and God broke 
that through a very painful Dark

990
00:59:38,500 --> 00:59:41,200
Night of the Soul. 
So you're telling me things. 

991
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:45,400
To like, you know, your mother 
was like, oh, okay, there are 

992
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:51,600
things in the spiritual that get
embedded deeply into our soul. 

993
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:56,000
And this is another aspect of 
people that, that are set apart 

994
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,400
for God, here we have these 
children that come on to planet 

995
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,400
Earth. 
God has set us apart to be his 

996
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,600
elect. 
He has plans for us, he's giving

997
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,300
us gifts, he's given you 
artwork, he gave. 

998
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:16,100
Writing, he's given us this 
desire to communicate and 

999
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:19,500
articulate truths and and to 
help people. 

1000
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:23,000
And we're both empaths. 
So what happens from day one? 

1001
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:28,400
The enemy says, I want to read a
label this person so that from 

1002
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,300
day one, they don't go to 
scriptures for their identity. 

1003
01:00:31,300 --> 01:00:33,300
They don't know that they're 
fearfully and wonderfully made, 

1004
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:35,500
they don't know that they're the
apple of his eye. 

1005
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,500
They don't know that we're royal
priesthood, they don't know that

1006
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:43,800
were the bride. 
We only We grow up with Hyper 

1007
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:48,600
taylorism, which is my birth 
defect, we grow up with 

1008
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:55,300
deformity, add mute those labels
become our identity. 

1009
01:00:55,300 --> 01:01:00,500
And even after we find Christ 
and we, you know, everything is 

1010
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,600
on the outside. 
Like, I've got it all worked out

1011
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,800
like it's good. 
I got all these friends and I 

1012
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,300
got my driver's license. 
I went to college, everything's 

1013
01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:13,300
great and what we don't realize 
And I was kind of talking about 

1014
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:16,300
this earlier, when I was talking
about these astral covenants, we

1015
01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:18,700
may have made with false 
bridegroom's, and we may not 

1016
01:01:18,700 --> 01:01:22,400
know these declarations. 
And I talked about this in my 

1017
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,500
book. 
When We Make false declarations 

1018
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:30,200
about who we are, when we 
ascribe to ourselves unbiblical,

1019
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:37,900
untrue labels, when we believe 
ruinous Lies, when we make Oaths

1020
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:41,300
and declarations. 
I'll never get married. 

1021
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,200
I'll Never Love again. 
I'll never trust a man. 

1022
01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:49,200
You know, there is no God. 
When we say these things, they 

1023
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:55,500
they might be quickly forgotten 
by us, but the enemies in the 

1024
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:59,500
high places, they intercept 
those messages. 

1025
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:03,300
Oh my gosh. 
And then they have a legal 

1026
01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:07,200
ticket. 
They have legal right now and 

1027
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,900
so, you know, here I am. 
I am decades away from my birth.

1028
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:14,500
I don't remember any of this. 
I don't remember the times. 

1029
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:18,200
I came home from Junior High 
saying, I hate someone so and 

1030
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,600
I'm never getting married. 
And I hate guys, you know, 

1031
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,000
because they were so mean to me,
I don't remember any of that 

1032
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:24,900
stuff. 
I'm over it. 

1033
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:26,500
I'm not holding grudges, I don't
cry. 

1034
01:02:26,500 --> 01:02:29,500
I don't look in the mirror and 
SOB over the way I look like I'm

1035
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:32,300
an extremely healthy, confident 
person. 

1036
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:38,000
I leave scars and everything I 
like my face but those things 

1037
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,600
were intercepted. 
One by one is I remember them? 

1038
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:44,700
I declare out loud. 
Father, forgive me. 

1039
01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:47,100
That was a lie. 
I believed a lie. 

1040
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:53,000
I am so sorry, I didn't know, 
and I will end on this. 

1041
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:59,200
There's an obscure section in 
the Book of Numbers where it 

1042
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:05,000
talks about women who make vows 
to God. 

1043
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,000
So it's this is not a, this is 
not an Apples to Apples 

1044
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:14,200
comparison but the Concept I 
think is similar what it says 

1045
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,900
is. 
If you're a man and you make a 

1046
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:21,700
vowel, your vow holds, That's 
it. 

1047
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:30,000
Your word is your word if you 
are a woman and you make a vow, 

1048
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:36,200
Once you're, if you're married, 
if your husband hears of it, or 

1049
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,200
if you're not married in your 
father, or your brother, who, 

1050
01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:42,300
you know, if your father's dead,
if it's your brother, if the 

1051
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:46,100
headship character in your life,
whether it be a husband or 

1052
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:52,000
brother, or a father, the day 
that your husband or father, or 

1053
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,200
brother hear about that vow, it 
doesn't have to be the same day 

1054
01:03:55,300 --> 01:04:00,400
the day that they hear of it. 
If they disapprove, they can 

1055
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,600
View of your vow and you can get
out of it. 

1056
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:11,200
So what I pray, when I wake up 
in the morning because I don't 

1057
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,500
know in every case if if there's
something that's happened that 

1058
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:19,500
night that I don't remember or 
as memories come back to me of 

1059
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:25,100
stupid things, I said in haste 
or things that I said in over 

1060
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,800
unchecked emotion or self-pity, 
these declarations that I made 

1061
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,500
about my identity. 
Your lies. 

1062
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:37,300
I believed what I do is I say, 
father, you are, you have 

1063
01:04:37,300 --> 01:04:40,300
designated yourself as my 
heavenly father Jesus. 

1064
01:04:40,300 --> 01:04:42,800
You've designated yourself as my
bride groom. 

1065
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,900
So this is the day now that 
you've heard about these vows 

1066
01:04:46,900 --> 01:04:51,100
that I made. 
If you disapprove of them will 

1067
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:55,100
you disavow me of them? 
And I just have faith that as I 

1068
01:04:55,100 --> 01:05:00,000
pray, you know, with the help of
the Holy Spirit, I ask how to 

1069
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,300
pray for these Things. 
And and one by one, as he's come

1070
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:07,900
to my mind, I'm able to ask God 
to disavow me of those foolish 

1071
01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:11,900
things that I said, because 
there are so much power in the 

1072
01:05:11,900 --> 01:05:13,900
tongue. 
And the word says so much about 

1073
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:17,700
the tongue being a Rudder and it
talks about one day, we are 

1074
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:20,700
going to be held accountable for
every foolish thing that came 

1075
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:29,400
out of our mouths. 
And I do think that there is A 

1076
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:34,800
huge link between people who 
have a calling on their life, 

1077
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,600
who are born with with the sign 
on their forehead, that nobody 

1078
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,300
can see. 
But God, these people that were 

1079
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:46,000
born with a purpose or a calling
that have been targeted as at a 

1080
01:05:46,008 --> 01:05:47,900
young age. 
There's many things that we all 

1081
01:05:47,900 --> 01:05:51,300
have in common, a lot of us are 
empaths, a lot of us have had 

1082
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:56,000
almost dying experiences. 
A lot of us have felt lonely and

1083
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:03,700
isolated and misunderstood. 
A lot of us have a gaping wound 

1084
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,100
of rejection that goes all the 
way back to day one. 

1085
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:12,200
It needs to be recognized, it 
needs to be repented of it. 

1086
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:17,400
We need to disavow ourselves of 
those things and I believe that 

1087
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:27,100
this, this route of rejection is
a Cancer and it is It's dormant 

1088
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:29,500
and a lot of people and then 
there's a lot of people because 

1089
01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:32,900
we're a prideful people that we 
don't wanted to admit it so we, 

1090
01:06:32,900 --> 01:06:34,500
you know, like oh, I don't have 
anxiety. 

1091
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:38,900
Oh, I don't have depression. 
My word to the wise Rod is 

1092
01:06:38,900 --> 01:06:44,100
always hey, when in doubt if the
spirit actually is able to get 

1093
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:47,500
through to us because, you know,
we're a distracted overly busy 

1094
01:06:47,500 --> 01:06:48,400
people. 
Yeah. 

1095
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,400
We're going at 3,000 RPMs a day.
This is why we can't even 

1096
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,500
remember to like bring our car 
keys. 

1097
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:58,000
When were Go into the car and we
got to write stuff down and we 

1098
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,200
need these to-do lists. 
We're going 100 miles an hour, 

1099
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:07,900
and if the Holy Spirit actually 
penetrated our thoughts actually

1100
01:07:07,900 --> 01:07:11,700
got through that tangle of 
thoughts. 

1101
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:15,700
And we, it resonated with us, 
then it must be important. 

1102
01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:17,500
You drop everything that you're 
doing. 

1103
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:20,800
I don't care if you're in 
public, I can you drop 

1104
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,000
everything that you're doing 
right then and there and you 

1105
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,300
bring that in prayer and you get
that. 

1106
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,500
Taken care of because you might 
forget five minutes later, you 

1107
01:07:28,508 --> 01:07:31,000
might not remember when you get 
home to do that. 

1108
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:36,800
Wow. 
This is the first time we ever 

1109
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:43,000
talked and just I feel like, you
know, so well I feel like you're

1110
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,400
talking about me when you're 
talking about them or you or 

1111
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,000
this, and then I'll chime back 
in. 

1112
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,300
And it's just, it's unreal 
because it's an emotional roller

1113
01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:56,600
coaster. 
I jump in and ride with people 

1114
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,000
in certain episodes. 
Like they'll be Parts. 

1115
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,900
Where I'll tell them. 
I just took an emotional 

1116
01:08:00,900 --> 01:08:03,600
rollercoaster with you and then 
it's right back to business, 

1117
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,300
like it was, but this is one of 
those up. 

1118
01:08:05,500 --> 01:08:08,600
It was wears a lot a lot more 
frequent and on. 

1119
01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:13,000
It's so personal. 
It's so personal because we're 

1120
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:19,399
hitting some Roots here and you 
know, people if they listen this

1121
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:22,399
far that means you can relate 
and that means they're feeling 

1122
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:25,399
most likely how we feel right 
now Vicki, which is like a bit 

1123
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:28,399
of Liberation but like still 
kind of like, I personally a 

1124
01:08:28,407 --> 01:08:30,200
little bit terrified. 
Yeah. 

1125
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:31,899
Like yeah, like you know what I 
mean? 

1126
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:34,200
Like, happy excited. 
Yeah. 

1127
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,000
Well, this is so cool. 
It's like First time you ride a 

1128
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,200
roller coaster, maybe second, or
third times, you have a little 

1129
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,600
bit of an idea what's going on 
here. 

1130
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,399
But you got on the roller 
coaster because it's fun. 

1131
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:47,300
But you also knew you were going
to be terrified and screaming. 

1132
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:50,899
Bloody murder when a boy like 
magical you upside down and 

1133
01:08:50,899 --> 01:08:53,300
that's sometimes how this 
journey feels formula. 

1134
01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:56,800
I feel excited but I also feel 
like okay my stomach's about the

1135
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,100
drop. 
Yeah well I'm so weird. 

1136
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:02,700
So I'm really enjoying this 
conversation. 

1137
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:05,300
I'll tell you what like anybody 
who's like hey man, I got this. 

1138
01:09:05,500 --> 01:09:07,600
About sleep paralysis. 
I want to hear about Shadow 

1139
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,399
People and succubus has look, 
man, you go to my website, you 

1140
01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:14,500
click on the media tab, you can 
listen to hours and hours and 

1141
01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:17,600
hours of me talking about the 
vampires in the threshold 

1142
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,399
covenants and the astral realm, 
like it's all out there. 

1143
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:24,700
I've said it a million times, 
but what this episode is really 

1144
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:29,800
doing is is a Roundtable for the
people that have had sleep 

1145
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,700
paralysis their entire life. 
The people that have had sleep 

1146
01:09:32,700 --> 01:09:35,100
paralysis their entire life. 
It's kind of like guys that come

1147
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:36,000
back. 
From war. 

1148
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,500
Everybody wants to hear their 
War Stories, but the guys that 

1149
01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:41,399
our war heroes, they don't want 
to come back and relive that 

1150
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:42,700
they don't want to talk about 
that. 

1151
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,800
People who've gone through sleep
paralysis. 

1152
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,700
I saw a shadow person was, oh, 
yeah, well, I saw the Hat man 

1153
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:49,200
wants y'all. 
One time I got pulled off my 

1154
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,399
bed, we don't care. 
It's all like we've all seen it 

1155
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:54,900
a million times. 
That what we really want to know

1156
01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:59,300
is why is this happening to me? 
And this is made, this is 

1157
01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:04,200
changing who I am and this is 
making my soul Dark, and this is

1158
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,700
making me question. 
It if I'm okay with God and it's

1159
01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:12,400
just making ever be normal. 
And can I have a family or a my 

1160
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,200
mentally ill or why is this 
keep? 

1161
01:10:14,300 --> 01:10:16,300
Wow, how come every door? 
I close. 

1162
01:10:16,300 --> 01:10:19,000
How come it's still happening? 
This, this is a discussion for 

1163
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:24,200
people who don't need the 
Goosebumps and the campfire 

1164
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,300
stories. 
These are the people that have 

1165
01:10:26,300 --> 01:10:32,100
been there for 10, 15, 20, 30, 
40 years and this is perhaps the

1166
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:36,200
first time sleep paralysis has 
even been discussed. at this 

1167
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:42,400
level because it's deeply 
entrenched with our identity and

1168
01:10:42,500 --> 01:10:50,000
it's deeply entrenched with how 
we visualize in our head and our

1169
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,500
aware at every moment that this 
life is a cosmic war and 

1170
01:10:55,700 --> 01:10:59,600
someone's got one arm, someone's
got the other arm and we are in 

1171
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,100
the middle of this tug-of-war 
and we can't relate to the world

1172
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:07,100
around us where people Walk 
around in a daze just talking 

1173
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:12,400
about social media and Netflix 
series, and response, and their 

1174
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,300
favorite foods. 
You're sitting there listening 

1175
01:11:15,300 --> 01:11:18,400
to all of this stuff and it's 
almost like you have Sleeping 

1176
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,200
gas and you can hear them 
talking but they're like a room 

1177
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:27,800
away and you're like, this is 
not the world I live in, you're 

1178
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:33,000
freaking me out. 
I've been looking for friends 

1179
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,100
like a whole, like I'll go so 
far with people and here I am on

1180
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:40,200
the podcast or like, this is 
gonna go all over the place and 

1181
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,400
we're not the only ones, they're
not alone. 

1182
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:51,600
There's got to be thousands of 
other people out there, who, who

1183
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,300
felt this way. 
And I mean, look at Jesus, you 

1184
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:56,500
know, he might not have sleep 
paralysis, but obviously he was 

1185
01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:59,300
being hounded by the enemy all 
the time, right? 

1186
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:01,700
And what do we see over? 
Over and over again. 

1187
01:12:01,700 --> 01:12:07,000
He was always retreating alone. 
Oh, my gosh, is he didn't give 

1188
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:11,000
you such a, he was exhausted. 
He was burned out, man. 

1189
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:16,500
Well, you says many strong Bulls
of Bashan of the compass me, 

1190
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:18,600
right? 
That's recorded and he's going 

1191
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,300
up and he's praying and he's 
taking time with God and 

1192
01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:26,100
literally like within the just 
the last month I can't even get 

1193
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:30,000
into it, but I cannot tell you 
how many times people have used,

1194
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,800
which is a public Realm. 
Event weakness, that that money,

1195
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,600
you know, people like my private
life for that. 

1196
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,500
I work with or something would 
know that I have against me to 

1197
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:39,700
try to crush me with it and I 
look at him now I'm just like 

1198
01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:42,200
yeah, you're out your mind. 
Like you think that's going to 

1199
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:47,800
work like if this was chess like
you're thinking Checker moves 

1200
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,400
and I already mapped out 
Checkmate and I don't mean to be

1201
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,200
bold when I say that. 
But the reason I depicted that 

1202
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,800
way is that does not work. 
Yes. 

1203
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,200
Like like you're revealing to me
that you're an out-of-date piece

1204
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,500
of software that can Cannot 
complete his mission. 

1205
01:13:02,700 --> 01:13:06,000
Yes. 
And it's weird because you know,

1206
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,900
still alert then learning to 
balance of needs to have 

1207
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:13,400
compassion and be cordial and 
be, you know, I guess we're 

1208
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,300
talking about things. 
Now that I've ran through my 

1209
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:18,100
head, I talk to God about it, 
prayed about it. 

1210
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:20,500
I very selectively talked with 
people about. 

1211
01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:22,900
I had somebody tell me where 
multiple people say, oh, why are

1212
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:26,200
you so Cryptid cryptic when he 
talked like why is it always? 

1213
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:28,800
And I'm like it's my protective 
mechanism because I know that 

1214
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,100
there's a lot of wolves out 
here. 

1215
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:31,100
Yeah. 
You know. 

1216
01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:33,700
And I'm not, like running around
looking for more punishment 

1217
01:13:33,700 --> 01:13:36,000
like, did you? 
Not obviously, you don't notice 

1218
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,400
much because I lived in here and
you didn't say anything. 

1219
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:42,600
So yeah, it's just so weird. 
It's also weird because it's 

1220
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,300
like as it becomes more real, 
you just start to go I don't 

1221
01:13:46,300 --> 01:13:48,900
know if I'm ever going to have 
like a real friend. 

1222
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:53,200
Like hey let's go watch the 
baseball game pal, go get a 

1223
01:13:53,208 --> 01:13:55,200
Cheesesteak. 
Like I'm outside of Philly and, 

1224
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,800
you know, people like what kind 
of cheese steak you get them. 

1225
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,700
Like, I've been in my house 
reading for three days. 

1226
01:13:58,700 --> 01:14:09,800
Look, pretty Joy Vicki. 
God has blessed you and you 

1227
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,200
bring joy to me. 
You're going to bring joy to 

1228
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,600
other people. 
You are being used by God to 

1229
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,800
just it all starts to make 
sense. 

1230
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,000
When the chosen one start to get
together, they edify each other.

1231
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,500
They encourage each other. 
They just know because it's like

1232
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:29,100
yo I'm not alone and you're 
speaking stuff that I thought 

1233
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,100
other people couldn't 
understand. 

1234
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:33,600
Get on that wavelength with and 
then, you know, there's an 

1235
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,300
anointing on this person's life 
and, you know, God divinely 

1236
01:14:36,300 --> 01:14:39,000
opened up a door for you to be 
with that person to communicate 

1237
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,300
with that person. 
So that's these little 

1238
01:14:41,300 --> 01:14:43,800
idiosyncrasies. 
For me is like I'm a part of 

1239
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,200
this generation where we're 
going to rip the rest of the 

1240
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,200
veil like it's been fading and 
thinning and God's going to like

1241
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,400
okay. 
Now get him ripping on them 

1242
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,200
because this day won't surprise 
you God's going to say because 

1243
01:14:56,300 --> 01:14:59,400
you have been on the wall 
watching and weeping and you 

1244
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,700
have been heavy and bird. 
And like they say, even Jesus 

1245
01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:07,400
was a man to tears me at times. 
Yeah, like he was always, but 

1246
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:14,700
there's, there's this joy that 
comes from knowing even though 

1247
01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:19,900
I'm suffering, even though this 
all had happened, it's going to 

1248
01:15:19,900 --> 01:15:22,700
be okay. 
Absolutely, amen. 

1249
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,300
Amen, you know, there's this 
business philosophy, it's called

1250
01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:28,200
The Law of unintended 
consequences. 

1251
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,500
And you know, it's when you have
an innovation or Sort of 

1252
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:34,400
protocol or something and you 
know, in your mind you've got it

1253
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,100
all mapped out on paper, it's 
going to be great. 

1254
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:37,800
It's going to save money. 
It's going to sell a million 

1255
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,800
dollars. 
And then there's that one like, 

1256
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,100
oh darn, I never thought of that
and it kind of blows up in your 

1257
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:45,900
face. 
So this is law of unintended 

1258
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:50,000
consequences and I think the 
perfect example of someone who 

1259
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,700
keeps falling for that is the 
enemy. 

1260
01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:55,100
You know, it keeps thinking he's
got the Lord checkmated and then

1261
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:56,900
it's like oh that blew up in my 
face. 

1262
01:15:56,900 --> 01:16:00,200
And so, the way I'm kind of 
looking at this, this is why I'm

1263
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,400
willing to come out. 
Out and talked publicly about 

1264
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,500
something that no one wants to 
talk about, no one wants to 

1265
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:06,200
admit, you're going to get gas 
lit. 

1266
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,700
The medical in the science field
are going to just keep 

1267
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:11,800
gaslighting you you're 
schizophrenic you're crazier 

1268
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,100
this year, that whatever, I 
don't care, I got bullied for 

1269
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:17,500
the first 18 years of my life. 
I the last thing in the world to

1270
01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:21,100
bring you down this someone 
insulting me but the way I look 

1271
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:23,700
at it as, okay? 
Enemy you want to bring us into 

1272
01:16:23,700 --> 01:16:28,600
a Quantum age and you want to 
entangle all of us together and 

1273
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,700
create a hive mind. 
Guess what? 

1274
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,000
Guess what? 
That means that people like me 

1275
01:16:34,300 --> 01:16:38,900
and Rod find each other and when
you create a hive mind and all 

1276
01:16:38,900 --> 01:16:43,500
of God's elect to have been 
silently in survival mode alone,

1277
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,600
their whole life, and they're in
the in the fetal position, 

1278
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,900
getting hold full, triage unit. 
Yeah, we're going to find each 

1279
01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:54,300
other because you let's go. 
Yes, we will be go thousand 

1280
01:16:54,300 --> 01:16:56,800
strong and will we are going to 
be what brings you down. 

1281
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,600
So Hive us together, all you 
want. 

1282
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,000
It will blow up in your face. 
Ace and that is a perfect 

1283
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,900
transition just to really 
reflect on this conversation and

1284
01:17:07,900 --> 01:17:10,300
just enter into the rest of this
evening. 

1285
01:17:10,300 --> 01:17:15,100
Just going God, I am excited. 
Yeah, and Ventures kids into 

1286
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,900
continuing to reach for that 
armor. 

1287
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,600
And as the day draws near that, 
you know, we just continue to 

1288
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,300
communicate and sharpen each 
other and bear each other's 

1289
01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:26,300
burdens. 
You guys. 

1290
01:17:26,300 --> 01:17:28,900
This is a different. 
This is a whole different level 

1291
01:17:28,900 --> 01:17:31,000
of communication. 
I have been sober. 

1292
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,900
Herb for the last three years on
this show, just kind of give a 

1293
01:17:34,907 --> 01:17:37,800
little tidbits here and there 
but I've been feeling it. 

1294
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,800
You guys seen you do some other 
stuff with me recently where I'm

1295
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,000
starting to open up more, and 
come out. 

1296
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,700
Because I really just feel like,
you know what the enemies like 

1297
01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:48,000
has swung at me so hard. 
I'm really like well, that 

1298
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,900
didn't actually hurt as bad. 
Like I clenched and was way more

1299
01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:54,800
scared than when I actually got 
hit. 

1300
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:56,600
Yeah. 
And then God, in the secret 

1301
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,900
space, is starts to tell you 
whose shoulders back kid, 

1302
01:17:59,300 --> 01:18:02,100
calling my name. 
I'm the only Thing, that can 

1303
01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:04,500
Empower you. 
Do you not know that you speak 

1304
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:10,200
from a place of Victory and 
that's why That's why what we're

1305
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:14,100
doing is so important because 
years ago, there was another 

1306
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,300
podcast, there was a there was 
only a very small handful of 

1307
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:19,500
people that came up. 
Look me in the eyes and said 

1308
01:18:19,900 --> 01:18:22,300
you're different. 
And you have what it takes. 

1309
01:18:22,700 --> 01:18:25,200
And inside, I'm like, I'm ready 
to cry because I'm like, my dad 

1310
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,200
called me a traitor. 
They beat me up when I was 

1311
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:29,800
younger. 
Everybody made fun of me. 

1312
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:31,600
I've been chased around 
neighborhoods. 

1313
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,700
I've had guns pulled on me. 
I've been beat up, I thought all

1314
01:18:33,700 --> 01:18:35,700
kinds of stuff. 
I've lived in beautiful homes 

1315
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:37,500
with everything and I've been in
nothing. 

1316
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,200
I've been in the gutter, 
Experienced a little bit of both

1317
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:45,000
and I never understood why I'm 
like guys why is everything out 

1318
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,900
of whack nothing's balance. 
Like always just one. 

1319
01:18:47,900 --> 01:18:49,500
Not like don't hurt me, like 
stay away. 

1320
01:18:49,500 --> 01:18:52,900
Always just wanted to kind of 
get into the next room without 

1321
01:18:52,900 --> 01:18:57,600
being liked. verbally or 
spiritually, or even physically 

1322
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:03,300
gripped up and questioned, her 
hit songs and That's that's no 

1323
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:08,300
more. 
It's not that's no more. 

1324
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:13,400
I'm just going to speak this 
scripture over you as well as 

1325
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:18,400
anyone listening, this bar who's
also resonating with us wishing 

1326
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,500
like, man, I wish I was on that 
podcast talking to them because 

1327
01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:23,100
I'm resonating with this. 
I'm just going to speak this 

1328
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:26,400
over you rod and anyone else 
that this applies to who's 

1329
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,700
listening, who's been wary, 
Beatdown discouraged. 

1330
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:38,500
Mislabeled to Grant those who 
mourn in Zion giving them a 

1331
01:19:38,500 --> 01:19:43,900
Garland instead of Ashes the oil
of gladness instead of mourning 

1332
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:49,700
the cloak of Praise instead of a
disheartened spirit. 

1333
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,900
So they will be called Oaks of 
righteousness. 

1334
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:57,400
The planting of the Lord that he
may be glorified. 

1335
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,100
So we're going to go forth from 
from this day, Rod, you, and I, 

1336
01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:06,600
and anyone else who's with us 
listening, we're going to put on

1337
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:12,300
a cloak of praise and we are 
going to take the label not of 

1338
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:16,400
rejected, not of ugly, not of 
add not of whatever we pad. 

1339
01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:21,700
We're going to take on the label
of an oak of righteousness 

1340
01:20:21,700 --> 01:20:25,100
firmly planted in the ground. 
When the storm comes, we will 

1341
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:28,200
not be shaken and the name of 
God will be glorified. 

1342
01:20:28,300 --> 01:20:32,700
Glorified. 
Looks like this show is going to

1343
01:20:32,708 --> 01:20:35,700
have to morph into the 
millennial mustard tree for 

1344
01:20:35,700 --> 01:20:42,900
season for it. 
See it's got to act like it's 

1345
01:20:42,900 --> 01:20:45,200
still a CD but the enemy don't 
know. 

1346
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,400
That's right. 
The biggest plant in the garden.

1347
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,200
Wow. 
Vicki. 

1348
01:20:53,200 --> 01:21:00,300
It's been an honor. 
I'm so happy that God spoke this

1349
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:02,800
and then we both just listen and
went with it. 

1350
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:08,000
And now the outcome already is 
just I'm just excited for the 

1351
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,700
future. 
Everything that you you said 

1352
01:21:09,700 --> 01:21:13,000
here tonight has been edifying 
for me, it's challenging me 

1353
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,900
literally. 
I'm like I need to go for a walk

1354
01:21:14,900 --> 01:21:18,400
and get some water now after 
this episode, so tell the 

1355
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,700
listeners where they can find 
you too. 

1356
01:21:20,900 --> 01:21:24,100
I'm going to ask you to send. 
Privately then a link for like 

1357
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,400
your book and just any show 
notes estoppel, tell them 

1358
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,800
verbally right now where they 
can find the book where they can

1359
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,400
find the show. 
Anything that you're working on.

1360
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,500
Sure thing. 
Thank you so much. 

1361
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:38,400
So the book is they only come 
out at night, exposing the dark 

1362
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,700
weapon of sleep paralysis. 
It is available exclusively on 

1363
01:21:41,700 --> 01:21:43,700
l.a. 
Marzulli dotnet. 

1364
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,600
You can get ahold of me or get 
my other books at Viki. 

1365
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:51,200
Joy Anderson.com. 
And I'm on Instagram at Viki. 

1366
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,400
Joy author. 
You can also catch me on YouTube

1367
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:59,900
with my co-host, Tom Done. 
Tom done, was the mentee and 

1368
01:21:59,900 --> 01:22:02,800
protege of the late. 
Great, Russ dizdar. 

1369
01:22:03,300 --> 01:22:06,900
We do a show through the lacked 
as a show of six nights a week 

1370
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:11,000
on YouTube. 
Tom and I are, we do our shows 

1371
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,400
Monday through Wednesday, 11 
p.m. 

1372
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:17,700
Eastern Monday through Saturday?
Well, that's it. 

1373
01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:19,900
That's the show you guys heard 
it. 

1374
01:22:19,900 --> 01:22:22,000
If I know if you made it this 
far. 

1375
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,100
Listen. 
It helped share this. 

1376
01:22:25,500 --> 01:22:27,200
What are you waiting for? 
Share this, with your pastor, 

1377
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,600
share this with a friend, share 
this with somebody who, you 

1378
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,200
know, is going through this. 
But get the word out, because 

1379
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,000
these Oaks and righteousness are
not backing down. 

1380
01:22:36,500 --> 01:22:38,500
Come in from Southeastern 
Pennsylvania. 

1381
01:22:38,900 --> 01:22:41,400
God Bless America. 
Goodbye.