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The Heading Gary, Wayne is back again and let's just say this is
one for the records. Let's go.
There is pleasure to have you back on the show, man.
Well, thank you for inviting me back.
So happy to be you know, having another discussion with you and
hoping that we can touch on some things with the audience that
you know will maybe answer a few questions and hopefully raise a
few more eyebrows. Our last episode.
I listen to it a few times and it raised many more questions.
It's always an adventure talking with you.
I kind of wanted to talk a little bit about Hitler and some
of this conspiracy and then just kind of Let It Go where it will
from there. I've heard You speak on this
topic before, it seems like the history books cover so much, and
a scrub, the internet of certain information, but there's a lot
of reason to believe it's much darker and there's many more
details about this story. Yeah.
The World War 2 which is kind of
an extension in the finishing of world war.
One was resetting, the whole world order, and it sort of got
out of hand and both. ISM and then Nazism sort of went
rogue on the banks that were funding, both of the
organizations that were just designed to maybe give the
Western Europeans a little bit more influence, but with the
Nazis, it gets really sort of weird and strange if I can put
it that way and so much so that Winston Churchill and the Allies
deemed at the Nuremberg, trials, and all of the subsequent trials
that they were not going to permit.
The testimony of certain aspects of the Nazi organizational
structure and their beliefs, and their religion, how that all
worked in terms of what they were doing.
Because it was so far out there that They were afraid that if
they permitted the testimony that the the Nazis that were on
trial could legitimately through their lawyers then submit
innocence by virtue of insanity. That's how far out there that it
actually is. But once you peel back the onion
in terms of understanding, what really goes on in this world.
It makes a lot of sense as to how the Nazis were able to rise
to power. So But it's interesting though
that because of that because of the decision to not permit it
and to keep the information classified.
You're right. It didn't make the history
books. The information is out there.
I think, for the last, you know, 15 or 20 years after it was
Declassified, but it is. It is Stranger Than Fiction.
It is, it is Bizarro world when you dig into it and it almost
feels like the information is widely acceptable today with.
Anything that we've seen being assisted by technology.
That's really why I wanted to get into the topic.
The Nazi regime Hitler, they're making Declaration of the alien
religion so they're saying of themselves.
Hey you know we're in this alien cult and you know there's this
Aryan race were getting detailed information which is leading
them to operate in genocide. I forget how many people's
claimed to have killed 6 million, I think Jews and then,
you know, million others. But it's just, it's really
bizarre. Gary with everything that you
know we see the news you hear about them, talking about the
Unexplained phenomenon is the UFOs whatever they call them.
Now I think it's unidentified aerial phenomena that's like on
every other news channel. Few times a week at least from
what I see and it's bizarre because you're right ten, five
years ago that was not very common.
So I think people are really waking up to the fact that the
truth is way Stranger Than Fiction and like Chuck missing
yesterday. There's clearly a managed a
agenda taking place. Yeah.
Where would you kind of start us off with this whole conspiracy?
I'm really interested in you think Hitler committed suicide,
you know, based on these dental records and his bunker in
Germany or do you think he fled the country?
If there is any way to get out, he would have gotten.
No, there's no doubt about it and it would have been
pre-planned, and all set to go, even though they were trying to
show all of this confidence that they would win even sort of at
the end. I'm comfortable either way.
Don't think, you know, he's alive today.
I don't think he's going to be the end time Antichrist.
You know, he seems to be according to, and this will make
more sense as we talk get into a little bit, more of the details
of what was going on in Nazi, Germany.
He was thought to be by the rosicrucians and the secret
societies in the polytheist at his, Apex to being the second
Antichrist. Figure of the rosicrucian Thomas
who predicted three Antichrist figures.
One being napoleone the second one being Hitler and then the
Endtime Antichrist. Wow.
So he's an archetype Antichrist figure, which makes a whole lot
of sense when we look at the analogy that we ought to be
looking at for what the end time is going to look like.
So let's have a little bit you know, closer look in terms of
what was the makeup of the Nazi and their and their belief
system? Well, spend a lot of time on
Funding of the banks and down that rabbit hole.
And I think a lot of people know that the banks are, you know,
heavily connected into the true wealth of the world.
And they're the sort of the visual arm of the secret
societies and the royal bloodlines.
So where this starts to intersect knowing that there
were being funded by them to counter communist that got out
of control, it starts to make some sense.
If you understand that, there was several secret society
organizations, that was Idling kind of the political makeup in
terms of how they are going to rise to power.
So you have like the German and Orden secret society.
The Thule society, which a Thule Society is either a different
antediluvian, civilization. That was more centered in the
north. Let's say, akin to Asgard or it
is a alternative name to Atlantis.
But either way, they're thought to Aryans and Aryans were also
is the same name that was labeled with the demigod
offspring that we would call Nephilim out of the Bible.
The Giants, they antediluvian Giants, who were the Kings?
And the most populous people before the flood and were in
control of the ten nation-state Empire that was trying to become
a world government Before the Flood.
So you have this Aryan philosophy.
You have the secret societies And the Gnostic type of
religions that we're going to come to in a second.
That is forming in the organization to the rise of the
Nazis. And you have a sort of Nexus
point into that, they're going to go Rogue for away from any
sort of form of Christianity, and they're going to start the
rice Church in 1933. What's important to understand
about? That is gnosticism is the older
format. Of the polytheistic religion of
the secret societies. The secret societies, also,
create particularly the rosicrucians they create a
religion called theosophy which most people are familiar with,
which is their end goal is to be the end time Universal religion
that is able to merge with science because they all come
out of the same source of knowledge that comes from before
the flat, what? The the Nazis?
Do though is, is they're going to go a little bit Rogue from
theosophy as well. And so it's going to be
something called ariaz Fe. So that's basically compounding
theosophy and in the area and belief system and the Aryan
belief system has a mix of not only arianism in there.
It has very real that has to do with the blood that they have a
big belief in and völkisch German völkisch history.
As well as Grail ideology. So it's a complete it's a
merging of all of this to to create something different than
theosophy that has this Norse. German overlay to it and slant
to it. What's important to understand
is this is the same religion. That is the progressive
religion. That is rising in North America.
It's very much akin to that that same kind of movement, so you
should look towards globalism as being nationalism on a global
scale. That's going to have a similar
kind of national socialism which is a left wing political
organization. So it's important though as we
get back into this sort of religious aspect is that they
believed that they were the descendants of fool.
They were the descendants of Nephilim.
They were the blond hair blue eyed version that they were
trying to recreate by trying. Do several things in terms of
trying to work back through science, some way to create the
original blood and the DNA that would permit them to take the
same sort of size and Superior nature and or working through
genetics moving forward, which is the more commonly understood.
But I understand they were working it in both directions
that would create the new man which is the New Nephilim right
there crying to create the superior race and this is always
a left-wing belief that you you have to isolate everybody and
create people. You can persecute so that you
can keep people focused on things other than what you're
actually doing. So, this is a good archetype for
what's going to be happening in the end time, because Hitler
becomes an antichrist. Type figure, right?
And he's got this religion, he wants to put For the Third Reich
that he has Ambitions to take over the whole world and you
have the genocides that are predicted in in the Book of
Revelation, which is called the tribulation as opposed to the
wrath of God. They're two different concepts
and there's a couple of tribulations that are going on.
The the history that happens in World War 2 is almost like a you
know, a reflection of the end time or you know, a coming sort
of Earth paying but a very very weak because it's before the Fig
Tree generation, but it's it's typically, you know, it gives us
that sort of analogy. Now, what's really interesting
is in this religion is that they talk to their ascended masters.
So, the people at the top, the Adept level of the religion, and
the secret societies that are running this, this theological
state are talking to ascended masters, that are understood in
a Variety of different, sort of labels and names.
One are, you know, past people who have ascended to this level
who are communicating with their descendants, other ones would
look at them as the spirits of the ref, I am and the Nephilim,
some people elevate it to being the, the fallen, angels, that
they're communicating with some people will say that, these are
the Spirit guides and the aliens that they're that they're
talking to But they openly admitted that they're talking to
these ascended, great white Masters, the great white
Brotherhood and they're receiving Knowledge from them.
And the knowledge is becoming manifested in the development of
a military and technological set of ideas that gets manifested
into weapons of war, that cannot be explained.
So if you look at Germany going into World War 2 and you look at
19 you know 32 33 where we're Hitler's coming in the fire.
This is a bankrupt nation and no Army.
Yeah. And by 1939, The whole world is
in fear that they're going to take over the planet.
And so they develop this Blitzkrieg strategy that comes
out of nowhere. But it's perfectly designed for
the weapons of war, that they're going to develop, they're going
to develop like the Tiger tank and they're going to develop the
Panzer tank, which is the same model of this low-profile that
they use today for the tanks. That's how far Advanced that it
was. You know, if they could produce
more of those tanks in the numbers they would have easily
won the war just with that weapon because it was almost
impossible to take them out. They had you know basically gang
up on them to try and be able to take them out.
So is only numbers in the cost of them that prevented them from
having a significant Advantage but it goes beyond that they
were developing rocket ships. You know missiles and they were
developing Working on a nuclear weaponry, in terms of the atomic
bomb, they were developing the jet engine.
They were developing the single plane airplane that we, you
know, we recognize today that's in the US Air Force and this is
all the basis for the technology that came across to the US and
Operation Paperclip to continue the spacious.
Not the spaceship but the the program of going into space, the
jet engines group, The The, you know, all of the modern aircraft
that, that isn't, you know, able to be picked up on radar that we
have today and they also develop some sort of bell-shaped thing
that is thought to have been in. This is just speculation because
we don't have it. We're not sure where it went or
who took it probably the Americans, but it could be the
Communists too. But more likely the Americans.
And this was thought to be able to do a number of things.
But more importantly, it was Almost like a interdimensional
craft and or a time machine as some people might look at it but
again because we don't know exactly what it was or what they
were developing. What we do know though is if
they had enough time to develop these weapons they would have
won easily. Yeah.
I mean the V1 the V2 Rockets right and then the A-10 yeah
which they found on drawing boards that could have reached
the US Coast. It's perplexing that back in,
you know, you becomes Chancellor in 1933 and like you said, this
is a bankrupt Nation prior to Hitler rising up the power.
And literally, they have the whole world shaking, you know,
and they coax us into World War 2.
I think it's interesting. The things that you know, Hitler
declares himself the alien cult extraterrestrials, you know,
they're literally yes serving these.
I don't know Elder race or Fallen Angels or a Ends.
Well, I've heard him called a couple different things, but,
you know, clearly they have the infrared sensors that, you know,
some of the technology still, wasn't the masses didn't get a
chance to use and we're only talking, 10 years ago, it became
common knowledge. But anyway, not take off topic
but General, Lee Byrd, you know, he does his flight, right?
And has his flight log. Do you think that's very close
to what Hitler's describing as these Nordic gods that they, you
know, that's in there, Pantheon of worship because these are,
you know, said to be Mystic beings.
That have a base in Antarctica and I hope everybody knows that
story. If you guys never heard of
General lead, bird's flight log, you know, is his travels to
Antarctica. Go check that one out but that's
what it reminds me of. When I hear some of the stuff
that Hitler is, describing this Aryan race blond hair, blue eyes
tall there, these underground superhuman.
What kind of correlation do you draw from that?
I think there's definitely a connection there.
I think if people Think about what Admiral Byrd has published.
And if you haven't sort of proves that material, you can
sort of easily Google it, I think you need to match that up.
So what's going on today? What Admiral Byrd was talking
about? And so you have all of over the
last 10 years and they keep going down.
There they go. Yeah it's one after another of
all the political leaders then they come back, they don't say
what they saw, but the sort of information that sort of comes
out of it is, is that what is understood as being there?
Just as the Nazis or you know, sort of thought to have had a
military base, a naval base for their submarines and who things
there and they had originally discovered with it.
I think you're referencing, but what is there is thought to be
able to overturn every preconceived notion and so it is
one of those things that is going to change. everybody's
position is sort of thought, so I think How to control that in
and who these people are and how are we?
You know, how we might be interacting is really, really
important. So the main sort of modern
understanding of what might be going on down.
There is it has a connection that goes back into prehistory
some because you get speculation of pyramids and ancient
knowledge and ancient people, but also a connection to the
alien. So there seems to be sort of
both things that Being intermixed sort of similar to
the ancient alien sort of methyls, right?
And the only difference between the ancient alien methos, to
what is recorded in most religions and or the Bible is
the degree of being that these aliens are.
And so, in the ancient alien methos, they just sort of
represent them as these really Advanced beings that are, you
know, akin to Mankind. They may look differently.
They come from different areas but they are just, you know,
been around for so long there. They're very well Advanced as
opposed to being Angels or gods and but the thing is with that
is thats a little bit superficial because in the alien
methos you get a number of different kinds of aliens that
are in some sort of hierarchical order.
And you get an inter mixing Again, sort of beings and names
like the Annunaki and the Watchers again is kind of
intermixed into the alien Mythos, but just sort of at the
upper level of these very technologically advanced beings.
But from what we understand, these are, these are the gods
and the Fallen Angels, who Pro created the Giants, that the
Nazi said that their lineage goes back to and you also have
lower level ones though, so you I have and I won't go through
because I don't know them all. But I won't go through too long
of a list of different kinds of aliens, but you have, you know,
some quite taller sort of reptilian-looking ones that are
there. Some people think that those
are, you know, descendants of the Giants from the Sarah foam,
serpent face Angels who procreated or the dragon gods or
the plume serpent gods of the Keisha Maya and all the
different types of serpent God's around the world.
Another classification is ones that are just a little bit
taller than humans and they're called also reptilians that sort
of live in the Earth. And and that's interesting
because in the occult you have an organizational structure as
well where you have the Elementals at the bottom, so
below the Nephilim and below the demon spirits and there are four
groups of Elementals. Most people are familiar with
three of them. I'll come back to that in.
A second, but the fourth one is taller than the Elementals which
are little people for the most part.
These are called salamanders which are you know a little bit
taller than humans and live in the Earth but thought to be some
sort of alien breeders or some ancient race depending on which
line of thought that you're coming on it.
The little people, the Elementals, these are also
recorded in the in the Bible as being Elementals that have power
and or part of the hierarchy and or the rudiments There are also
recorded in certain chapters in the New Testament and within the
Elementals, you have three groups of these little people's.
You have ugly ones. You have good looking ones, you
have mischievous ones like the leprechauns and within the ugly
ones, you get ones that show up in like and I'll use this as a
particular reference, to the north ideology, the Lord of the
Rings is about the time before the flood and with the north
slant. So very much sort of Asgardian
and type of in terms of and that that volke ideology that that
the that the Nazis had. So you have several groups of
these ugly ones and some of them are like dwarves who made
weapons for the demigods and lived in the mountains, just as
they're depicted in Lord of the Rings.
You have some white elves that are in there and why tells are
different than the Elementals? Or look.
Exactly, like the two off at do it.
And then, and only then, Show them quite as large, just as the
Aryans, were to off a do danann and classified as the same
people in the ones who are blond, hair and blue.
Eyed, migrated up the Danube River, where the red hair Hazel,
I'd one's kind of stayed in the Romania area over into Russia,
and over into Mongolian over into Ireland, but the same sort
of group of people that show up after after the flood.
And you also have another group in there.
It is really interesting as it connects back to aliens is that
you have a group called the Gnomes and the Gnomes looked
after all of the technology of the ancient organizational
structure both before, and then again after the flood, and that
they kept the genealogies of the demigods and the Kings, they
also kept all of the knowledge. So there are very, very
important and these are ones that are called, you know,
fairies. But particularly, these are
fairies that have flying machines that come through
portals just as a lot of what happens in the alien Mythos is
the spaceships come through, a portal verses from another
galaxy. Thus, From Another Dimension,
and these little fairies would come through.
These fairy portals or fairy dolmens, and you can Google do
men. Do you do LM e n and I'll show
this mini Stonehenge type shape Hotel.
A bad Omen all over the world. They're also called.
The portals are also called Shay's SSID, H-E-B, which is
like the people of the writers of the Shea, which were the
tuatha de danann. So it's a shape people to other
than people and it's also a portal and or a fairy Mound, but
they would fly through these portals throughout history and
kidnap people. And they would do sexual
experimentation on people and what's amazing about these
kidnappings and He's spaceships that they're coming through and
their identical description to description of the greys in the
alien Mythos, kidnapping people. And what's really important is
that the people are described as the same.
In fact, they're called in Scotland, the gray neighbors,
but typically the gray gnomes, and I put a couple of examples
of those abductions in my book and the descriptions of these
little people are identical to the grey aliens, and they do.
Do the same thing. So I guess what I'm saying is
there's a larger sort of group of beings that are here that are
in a certain hierarchy in terms of where they fit in the pecking
order on controlling things and that it seems to be related to
ancient beings. And so I think this is starting
to come come to ahead. Particularly when you have this
ideology that you have you've had the government speaking with
the and Naki or the Watchers for a very long period of time and
that were, as you've mentioned, we're getting, you know, like an
Fox News. For example, it's making the
shows on a regular basis that they're updating us.
So they're preparing us for whatever information that they
have. But I guess I would advise
people to look at things in a very critical.
Eye is dig deeper and ask questions when more of this
information comes back about is are they telling us the truth
about who they are? Our or should we be digging a
little bit deeper I think the fact that they didn't come right
out and tell us from the gate you know they being government
or groups of people being very transparent with public record
depicting. Any encounters I think that
that's enough reason to proceed with caution and really take a
look at what's going on. Use our critical thinking.
So you said a couple key things. I remember Derek Gilbert was on
last year or maybe the year before and he talked about the
dolmens that are all over Israel.
There's a weird connection, but all of this stuff and I'm
trailing right there with you. You brought up the Lord of the
Rings, right? I mean, who doesn't like, Lord
of the Rings? I mean, anybody who's listening
to this show? They love it.
But, here's the thing, I got a question for you, in regards to
just the ideology that Tolkien, you know, was a Christian and
was entertaining us with his writings of all these travels of
these mystical creatures and, and entities from a times past,
the reason I bring that up as I've heard some Controversial
topics where certain pastors will talk about, oh, there's
good spirits and bad spirits. And I think that can be shown in
the word, within the context of, there's the council, the one
spirit is in the group and says, hey, I'm going to go down and I
think he said this sieve the prophets of Ahab or something
like that, you know, we see job in the middle of the night.
I think it's a job for a spirit Glides past him.
In the middle of the night is hair stands up on end.
It says something along the lines of can a mere man be more
righteous than his maker. So we See spirits that come from
the courtrooms, a heaven and interact with us here on Earth.
And even King Saul and David's time.
There was a tormenting spirit that God allowed to go to King
Saul. But what I'm getting at is do
any of these entities or Spirits have a physical vessel that we
may encounter are there. Good guys and bad guys or are
they pretty much all bad? It's us the image bearers of God
versus them. But what's your take on that in
terms of spirits, I think you have obviously good spirits as
In the loyal Angels because there are Spirit beings in
heaven and you have the Nephilim of the shamim, the Fallen ones
of Heaven who rebelled, right? And their Spirit beings as well.
You also have a lower grade of demonic spirits that are The
Offspring. Not The Offspring, but are the
spirits of the body list Giants? That who Spirits aren't
permitted to sleep? Like humans are humans sleep
until whichever Resurrection. That we're going to be part of
the spirits that are the, counters, fits counterfeit
Spirit, passed on to the Nephilim, and the rough.
I aim, their Spirits aren't permitted to sleep, because
there are counterfeit spirit and they're not permitted into
heaven. So these are the demons.
These are the devil spirits that are talked about that uses
dealing with in the in the New Testament.
Expose, back to the recorded am on evil spirits, devil spirits.
They're they're talking about the same group of spirits, just
with different names and often even in the same verse and it's
not the same as Satan, which is Diablo says the devil.
It's a specific word for these the spirits and they're afraid
that they're either going to be sent to the abyss by Jesus or
maybe even directly to the Lake of Fire before their time.
So these are not friendly Spirits, right?
So we have different Heinz, the spirits that are going on, so we
have to be aware of that, and that humans aren't ghosts,
humans sleep. So, whatever Spirit it is.
You've got three choices. One is a good Angel.
One is an evil angel and one is the, the Demonic Spirit of a
giant that's still roaming around.
And we know there are spirits of these Giants, but not all of
them are roaming because in Ezekiel 32, you have Pharaoh
speaking as a beast. He's King to fellow Beast.
Kings of the terrible ones, who were slain for the terrible
things that they did on Earth. And these are the kings of the
of the dynasties back there and they're in the sides of the
Abyss along where you decide where the Fallen Angels were
locked into, who were impassioned and probably did the
worst violations against the Earth in Against Humanity and
against creation, are there, not all fallen angels, are there,
some of them are still Out there roaming around.
So when you get into our, some of them good and some of them
Evil Within polytheism, you have a macro dualism and a micro
dualism if I can put it, that sort of way.
So in the macro dualism, they raise Satan to be the same the
same type of being an equal to the god of the Bible that
they're in this Perpetual Good vs.
Evil war with The followers of falling theism believing their,
the enlightened ones and the illuminated ones in the good
people. And the people of the Bible and
followers of the god of the Bible are evil.
Just as we would look at me being a Christian.
I would look at them as being deceived and doing the evil
things. So you have that macro level,
but that's different than what goes on within their belief
system when you get into the micro dualism and what I mean
about that within their culture, you I have white magic and you
have black matches. You have good magicians, you
have Ebola magicians, you have good witches, you have evil
witches, you have good Nephilim. You have evil Nephilim.
And So within, that comes out this concept that the ones who
are not using the knowledge that they have for complete evil are
also looking after the betterment of Of humankind.
The thing is though all of them worship the same gods and the
same Pantheon they're not like they're good Christians or
they're good loyal Angels they are following in the ways of the
rebellious ones who have the spirit of Cain that they want
all humans and demigods to be and they want humans, and the
demigods they created and their descendants.
To do horrible things against humankind.
And so when we look at, are there some good ones.
I guess that depends on what you define is good.
I would say if any of these beings in a physical sort of
sense would follow God and accept Jesus as their savior
then that would make them good and they would we would see that
manifested in good things and they have that free choice.
But if they remain part of the pantheon, No, that's sort of
councils that sort of out. They may be wanting to do good
things but they're going to be driven to do sort of evil
things. Just so it kind of based on, you
know what, their belief system is.
So you'll have this this concept of all, I think you're also
talking about, you know, sort of physically interacting and yes,
I think there is a way that being scan who are Spirit
beings. Insert can interact physically
in the physical world and there's an interesting word that
is in Jude, 16. That is talking about the Angels
who left their habitation in heaven.
And you also have another verse in first Chronicles 52 and
that's talking about the house in heaven as versus a house in,
in the, you know, in the physical world in the, in the
Earth. And both of those words, go back
to the Greek word, Wicket, Aryan, which means a dwelling
place for the spirit. And in the New Testament, we're
taught that the physical being has a body and a soul, and a
spirit that comes from heaven and it merges with the sole and
only Jesus, and God can separate that spirit.
And so, if you think about having a dwelling place for your
spirit to interact in the spirit world is required, and there's
also A dwelling place on the earth for the spirit that were
Deutsche Terrian. That is defined as a dwelling
place for the spirit starts to make some sense.
So if a spirit Angel wants to interact physically in the world
to eat drink, Talk touch, have people touch them just as the
angel show up physically in the Sodom and Gomorrah narrative and
just Before that when the three in Jesus, you know, sort of a
pre Jesus and two angels, take a physical presence to interact
with Abraham. You understand, they can take a
physical body. They have a physical body,
that's where that Spirit from Heaven is dwelling in that soul
and that body that they created for that and Fallen Angels would
have done the same thing and being in this world for a long
period of time, that's already been corrupted, they would be
corrupted Within that physical body and that may have helped
lead them to do some of the things that they did like create
giant switch. Now they are because they're in
that physical body, they can pass on the DNA and there's
offspring would have some of their traits and it would
include a counterfeit spirit that we would be talking about
and it would include super strength.
Probably super sizes. They're described in other
traits as well, including looking Like the Fallen Angels.
So when you look at like the seraphim, for example, their
serpent faced angels and they are thought to be the Watchers
that are described in Daniel for and in Genesis 6, just as the
Watchers included four, groups archangels or Fanning cherubim
and seraphim. And in some cases you get the
cherubim who are sort of classified as the eagle face
Annunaki, watch Watchers that we see showing up in Sumeria, they
also produce Offspring where you get a lot of these bird type
Nephilim that show up in ancient ology and they're known as the
Tengu in Southeast Asia and the zb-- Elba and the camazotz and
in in the Keisha Maya with Keisha, my if out of the popol
vuh and it's similar kind of creation just as you have all of
the Gods for the most part, not all.
But most of the Gods represented in that Serpentine look which is
that Seraphim look, and the Kings look, just like them.
And they were just described in ancient times as being
Serpent's. I'm talking about the Kings, so
they look like their father. So you've got that aspect that
these evil spirits of the Demons, once the technology
catches up and I think we're getting very close to that.
You could create this void catarrian for a demon Spirit to
physically interact in the world.
The only way they can do that today.
Is is to possess a human body where you tend to have kind of a
war going on with the host and it's not a symbiotic
relationship. You have also the ability of
some of the adapts in the occult religions and the higher up they
go they are somehow in inviting in demons that will add some
knowledge and wisdom to them, but they're still, I mean it's
not clear to me that that is Completely symbiotic.
Because once the demon gets in there, it's going to want to
control you. And then the Third Kind of
spirits that can operate within a body is the understanding that
the gods, the Fallen Angels incarnate into be people like
Buddha. So Vishnu would have incarnated
into Buddha or You would have had, for example, Shiva
incarnating into narashima and they did this several times and
Buddha was given significant wisdom by this Incarnation
through through Buddha. Just as the end time, Antichrist
is often called lord maitreya or the or the new Buddha and that
narashima just to continue that this thought, is this lion like
demigod just as Aslan in. Lewis's tails is the Incarnation
as he imagines it would be with Jesus in another world and this
is not how Jesus comes to our world because you have a body
created by the Holy Spirit and a soul within Mary, that's going
to be the Oka Therrien for Jesus so that he can come and atone
for the sins of the world as the creator of the world at the
Bahasa in command of God. And so it's a different concept
than the avatar avatara. But any of this stuff that is
going on, where you have these Spirits taking over a body is
not biblical and it's not from how things ought to be and how
you would honor, you know, the god of the universe, it's
completely polytheist Doctrine and polytheist policies.
Wow, that's a lot. It's interesting.
So we have the disembodied Spirit of the In which for the
demoniac, what about technology? So I think it was the last time
that we talked, it was like, right towards the end of the
episode. And I asked, hey, do you think
that these Spirits can inhabit? Technology a robot.
There's no resistance there. It's not like there's an
internal Soul and Spirit that is going to be resisting.
So these entities are obviously seeking habitation kind of
slowly being warmed up to this idea.
Through movies, obviously books, it's not far-fetched yet.
Movies like iRobot, the Terminator series room in 90s,
when I'm a little kid sitting on the floor.
My daddy's watch yourself. There was always something where
I'm going if of pro pots evil, like what's the entity that's
operating there? Like, that was always a big
question. I had as a kid.
I was thinking about that and I didn't even have the contacts
with the background to, really understand how it was possible,
but I had this inkling, I got feeling done.
You know, you look at the ghost hunting TV shows that it seems
like people are enamored with right.
I mean, you see it all over TV, there's social media.
Groups, Ghost Hunters clubs and you name it and supposedly
Spirits. Can speak through technology.
Do you think that very well could be an option for advanced
robotics to be a vessel to be inhabited by any of these Fallen
Spirits? Yeah, I think so.
Just as you know, in the in the Old Testament, there's a few
bizarre references to talking Idols, right?
Those whether or not how common that was but I think if I would,
I would fall 10 more into. I think there might be an easier
case to be made because I don't understand how that would form a
no catarrian for the Demonic Spirit.
May be more for a fallen angel. But, but for a demonic spirit, I
think technology would serve more easily as an orca Terrian,
that would be able to house that spirit.
And, you know, again, you know, there's a lot of talk about, you
know, Gremlins in the system and but I There's something to that
within the internet, within the technology that Spirits have the
ability to sort of exist. We may not be having seeing them
existing in the way that they would like to exist, but the
technology is continually advancing.
When we look at what people who work in advancing heavy
technology, they seem to be talking to Spirit guides or
Aliens or whatever, that list of beings that you want to want to
call them, that is providing them knowledge to help, wrap us
up. I think that knowledge is being
used to create that dwelling place for the demons that every
sort of level of that development and one of the names
that sort of comes up and I don't know whether you've heard
it but it's been dropped several times and I don't think it's
coincidental. Is that a lot of this knowledge
is being spearheaded and funneled through an Name
Metatron. And if you're not familiar with
Metatron, he is an individual in the book of third Enoch.
And he's he's actually Enoch but his name changes to Metatron and
he's raised to Angelic type status, or the Son of God type
of status is more accurate to what it says because of this
knowledge. And this is the name that people
are saying that they're they're communicating with though it's
kind of interesting. I think it's still probably
demonic as opposed to Enoch scent of Cain, but it's too much
of a coincidence and that we're seeing so much of that meta sort
of word, whether or not it's the metaverse with the superheroes
that take their history back into different kinds of Nephilim
and created Chimera type of beings.
Which again were just, you know, we're developing at a
extraordinary really Reckless rate without understanding.
Thing where it's really going to take us.
So I think and then you look at like Facebook I mean they just
changed their name to Metta. I mean their Facebook logo
looked a lot like to bowl canes logo as and now they're calling
themselves. Metas that is the greater sort
of company corporate company. So they tend to name and do
their symbolism and I can all RG after their, their polytheist
history. So it tends to Suggests to me
that we are creating a system somehow some way, whether it's
through transhumanism, through robots, or cloned bodies, that
we're going to see these demon Spirits, physically interact
with us again, in the world as we get closer to the end time.
One of my favorite Albert, Einstein quotes is he says, I
fear the day technology, surpasses human interaction, and
that day. We have a generation idiots,
right? So I look at met over.
Verse, and honestly, it the first thing that pops into my
mind. When that was being heavily
advertised as a few months back, I kept thinking about when Jesus
said do not be deceived, do not be deceived, do not be deceived,
I couldn't help but connect that an imaginary world, a virtual
reality world that is it is in representation of the real world
from visuals to interactions to hearing and operating in this
imaginary realm, what better way to deceive people?
To get their minds off the truth or to keep them.
So calloused, over, you know, they can't hear the truth
because they're worshipping. This form of Technology were
anti social social media. That's what it made me think of
right away. I'm not interested in virtual
reality, I'm interested in where my kissable feet are and where
I'm actually going. And a lot of the times on the
simple guy that's helping his neighbor, you know.
So I mean, honestly Harry We're living in strange times and I
just, we are love talking. We are because you connect a
couple of dots where I'll have certain Rabbit Trail thought
processes and you'll say certain things where I'm just like, man.
That's so crucial. The reason why I brought up,
what was your perspective on it? There's good entities with the
physical body is because you hear a lot of anecdotal evidence
of Bigfoot. Not all of them are violent.
Now, I get it, you know that Bigfoot's another controversial
preacher, some people laugh at that.
Some people take that. That very seriously but I can't
help. But all the years that I've
listened to encounters on other shows, some of these creatures
seemed very docile, they're very calm.
I mean, some of them are even said to have helped lost
children and some of that even goes back, pretty far in history
was a story from like the 1800s where young man went missing
for. I think he said it was five days
at it ended up being like five years of some really weird story
and, you know, you he's involved with this cave preacher.
And there was like a beautiful princess that was Captain done.
It was wild stuff. I mean, I read it and I was
viewing it as a form of entertainment, but still the
consistency of seeing this tunic.
Wha, as some of the Indians were called, her, Sasquatch writer
Bigfoot. This creature, you hear both
sides of the spectrum? Oh no, it was nice to Peaceful
creature. The American Indians.
You know, declared as the one who doesn't want to be seen.
And they have oral Traditions, that go back, pretty long time.
But in another thing, the reptilians you were talking
about, you know, this reptilian race.
There's also American Indian stories based upon reptilian
people that live under the Earth.
And if I'm not mistaken out in California, there was a tribe in
particular that actually said that.
They climbed out of the earth. They were birthed from that
race. So I mean it's difficult because
I'm like, I'm zooming into the microcosm and then I try to zoom
back out. Gout to the macro real quick to
click a puzzle piece together so it can kind of seem like I'm
jumping wildly but but in the Twister of the way that I'm
hearing and seeing and going through this research in these
these testimonies and the ancient accounts of local
narrative, I believe it to be wholeheartedly true.
Now who's delivering the biblical message is what I would
contend, right? I don't think everybody's a
teacher and I think there's a lot of sleeping members who are
obviously being rocked to sleep by hate.
Doctrine. But you see it all kind of click
together. It's critical.
It's imperative that this conversation is brought up if
people in a batter eyes that some of the stuff that we're
talking about other guests, I've had on what they talk about.
That's okay, they have that choice to do so.
But I know that there's hungry hearts out there just like me
want to know these answers to these questions so well and it
and it's important as events unfold that we're a little bit
more prepared by getting some of this.
Information out so that you people can better digest what
they're going on and not be as easily deceived because
everything is designed to lead you away from God.
Absolutely this approach and that to worship the the fallen
angels and to rebel against God and to join with them.
So it's important to understand how they're going to come, you
know, come at us to deceive people and even the elect As
Jesus told us and he went out of his way to forewarn us on that
and explicitly that you know, even even the elect will be
deceived and we need to we need to understand things very well
scripturally and understand how that sort of interacts with with
the rest of the world. So we can better understand what
they're going to do because the delusions are going to be you
know, apps they're absolutely astronomical.
All and unbelievable. We can't imagine what's going to
happen. I mean, the frenetic pace of the
events that are happening today in the crazy things that we
thought, you know, probably couldn't wouldn't happen.
They're already happening. And this is just the beginning
of a world being turned upside down and prepared for the end
times. So, it's important to understand
this and for and and I as you know, As you're mentioning, I
fully understand that a lot of people aren't ready for this.
But if you're hearing a little bit of this, just keep it as a
seed because you'll start to see more of what so many of us are
talking about coming into fruition.
It's just a matter of. What will you do?
When you recognize that? Wow, very well said.
I can't help but you know think about history kind of looks like
it repeats itself at times but then the Bible has these.
You know climaxes Jesus says things like it shall be like the
days of Noah at the end of the age and I look at my history
buff Rite was one of my favorite topics.
Well you don't there's no weird Fringe things that are going to
be in this standard you know General census history being
taught. Two kids is like there's such an
effort to conceal what's really going on and it webs and weaves
itself into every little category where it actually.
And then you have the Hollywood aspect where they're
entertaining us with the porter truth or the half-truth however,
you want to, you know, carry that out with all other
entertaining, us and movies with topics that I think are closer
to the truth yet. Not being so in detail, but
they're obviously depicting what I think is really going on,
especially when we're considering the biblical. - in
context, just what it says. And a lot of the churches,
they're just not ready for it. I don't know how we could be
experiencing what we are, and for pastors, not, I do, I've
talked with pastors, I have respect for anybody who talks on
behalf of the crucifixion, and the resurrection that the
Messiah Has Come In the Flesh and covered the chasm.
So that we as God's creation can have have the chasm covered, you
know, I don't care if you're a Navy, SEAL swimmer, or a guy, In
a wheelchair. If we drop you in the ocean
you're not going to swim from Europe to America.
That's the chasm that price covered for.
So you can be top notch or have no legs it doesn't matter not
going to make it price. Did that, right?
So I truly understand that that's the core in the essence
of why, I do the weird things I do with the show and in
honestly, very a lot of the pool conversations happen off are.
I can't even tell you, how many conversations I've had with
people. I'm like a magnet.
They just come to me and tell me weird things they've seen
Experience. And I always am willing to go
down the rabbit trail with people, but I always Point them
back to the biblical narrative. I was pointing back to Christ
and then obviously, when they start asking questions that I
can't handle, I'm like, go check out Gary Wayne, you know, let's
check out their Gilbert. Y'all.
Sure them towards people that, obviously, I'm have the calling
to dig into these. These topics help expose the
darkness, you know, the Bible says have new doings note, no
companionship with Darkness, but expose it.
It expose that the works of darkness.
That's, that's the way my brain works.
I look at it, and in the world were living in today, the chaos,
the confusion of million messages, and million signals,
calls, and confusion, and chaos. And I'm literally trying to
balance out God, what do you have in plan?
For me? Why am I weirdly drawn back to
these topics? Like, believe me, I tried to
throw the podcast out intentionally and
unintentionally with what happened last year, and I tried
to walk away from this stuff, but I can't.
If you're talking like listen, it's on the horizon, it's going
to start to make sense. And I think he's going to give
his Spirit to those who believe. And I think we're going to
counteract this Darkness with power on behalf of what God's
plans are moving forward. But right now, it's this really
weird time in my opinion, where there's certain people that are
kind of like the rising up and listening and they're going,
hold on because it just in my little bubble, Gary, I have guys
that used to make fun of me ten years ago about topics like
this, And literally there's there's a couple of them that
are they text me? They tell me stuff, they call
me, they talk to you know when they see me they're like hey man
you know what do you think about this?
And you can see that there's a change.
I don't know what's going on in Oklahoma.
I don't know what's going on in Florida.
I know what's going on Southeastern Pennsylvania, as
I'm out here all the time. I mean, this is, this is where I
was born and raised and it's very peculiar time, right now.
Now, when you were mentioning the Elementals real quick, I
didn't want to forget this one. You talked about them like
inhabiting territory. The reason I ask is sometimes
those who are sensitive in the spirit will move into an area,
right? Like I recently drove right
outside of Philly and went down to Delaware.
This is just a few days ago and I felt a heaviness happiness
when I was going through Wilmington Delaware I mean I'm
right right on 95. Then it it was weird as soon as
I came out of it and you couldn't see you know the
skyline in the background, it lifted Sensitive to that kind of
stuff. And I don't try to make
something out of nothing, but that's what I felt.
You think that they're literally our dominions.
And what exactly did you mean by these, Elementals?
How do you think that they operate?
Well, they're operating within the organized hierarchy.
So dominions are one. Order of angels, principalities
are another powers or another. My knees are another and You
know, typically as you get in Doctrine, there's nine sort of
orders that are listed. I think there's probably one
more and in my in my coming book, I'll I'm detailing.
What that, what those are by name and by their Hebrew and
Greek names and where they fit in the hierarchy.
And so when you get into the Elementals there at the lower
level like we're talking Angelic but we fight both things.
We can see And beings that we can't see, right?
And it's the ones on Earth that are carrying out the exact same
thing in the physical world, as what goes on in the spiritual
world. And in that world, you have this
host of rebellious, angels and host of Heaven.
And the host of the rebellious one, the word host goes back to
the Hebrew word Saba, which means an army and that denotes
Rank and order. So, So you have, you know,
archangels and you have Sarah foam and you have cherubim and
the oh Phantom which are ones that are Watchers around the
throne and thought to be, you know, in the top upper tier but
it doesn't fit with the typical three that's there because
there's four groups of Watchers and they typically, you know,
move the archangels down a level or two.
But it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me, but
that's another rabbit hole. But anyways, what I'm trying to
say there's a hierarchy here. And so in the hierarchy that is
going to denote region in space, Mmm.
Yeah. That the hierarchy is going to
extend through in the world that is run by Satan.
He is the prince and the God of this world.
So if you can imagine that Psalm 82 with the counsel of God, that
there is a council, that is a counterfeit of the Council of
angels and the counsel of God. God in heaven which is operating
to run the Earth and then you have 70 Nations as Deuteronomy
32 talks about that. You know, numbers the Patriarchs
and that are listed in the table of nations in Genesis 10 and
First Chronicles. In the same number as the sons
of Jacob born in Egypt and the same number of sons born to Adam
Before the Flood. These are the nation's that The
Council of Nations rule over and then their spurious Offspring.
And when I mean spurious, Offspring actually mean that in
that sort of literal sense that as The Offspring of them that
illegitimate Offspring in the demigods who were created to
rule the Earth. So if you can imagine the Beast
dynasties right out of the gate After the flood, just as they
were as they took over the dynasties Before the Flood.
They're going to rule over Realms and Nations and they're
going to honor the pantheon of God, the mystical religions that
come down through all of the Nations, except through Israel.
And this is going to be expanded as they expand through the
Earth. So you're going to have the sort
of hierarchy that extends down through the Earth, all over the
Earth and governed over by the invisible ones.
And one could also imagine that this would Stand into the Earth
somehow some way. Just as there's this physical
place that a lot of people like to call Hades or the underworld,
or the other world or an win or in the Bible.
We would understand it as Shale. And it's very unfortunate that
the Bible translators, conflate three turns into one word.
Hell, because they're actually different places.
You have the Lake of Fire that's separate from the underworld.
You have shale, which is Hades and with in Hades and a separate
place, you also have the abyss or the bottomless pit or the pit
as its described in the Bible, that's in again, a separate
location within the underworld or Shale but it's think place
there and it makes it more difficult to understand what is
actually being talked about and they do that so they can
allegorize way the Lake of Fire because they don't want to
admit. That, that could be Play some
talking about the fault polytheist because they don't
want to go there, right, obviously.
So, but when we have this understanding that there's this,
there's something in the earth, whether it's in another
dimension or otherwise, they rule over that as well, right?
Just as you have gods of the underworld that are talked,
about within the various Pantheon's around the world, and
it's an all of the Pantheon's. Now, we can actually start to
make a connection. Connection back to that to
Jesus, where he is the one who goes into the underworld to talk
to the imprison. Fallen angels that are in the
abyss in the Underworld, while he was still in the grave.
And I think you were sending a message to them that when I
resurrect on the Sunday, Your Rebellion is over, you have time
to create some more destruction, but you are going to the lake of
fire just as math book of Matthew talks about that the
Lake of Fire is reserved for those Fallen Angels.
So we can connect the abyss and the underworld back there.
Just as Revelation takes us back that these things are going to
be released. In the end time that are going
to join up with all of the fallen angels that weren't sent
to the abyss and you can have the war in heaven and they're
all going to be sent down. The Earth along with Satan at
the midpoint of the of the last seven years.
Now we can also take this back to connect through the ugaritic
texts that you were talking about earlier and in, in the
portals and things that are in the Covenant land region.
So there's a place called gilgal rough IE, which is the wheel of
the Giants of the wheel of the spirits and in that site and
it's sort of a wheel like setting you have.
And that's where the word you A gal comes from in that
application. If it's a an Angelic being
you're going to have the word ofan and then I am is the male
plural. Those are the Angels, in the
wheels in the vision in Ezekiel, 1 and 10 along with the cherubim
and The Chariot of God, that is depicted there in that Vision.
But in the yogurt, you have over 100 particles that are there.
Now, when you get into the ugaritic texts, which talk about
the creation of the rap by U, which is the Medic word for
Rafael from the root somatic word.
They're created by Baal and ashtaroth in the Bali, my out of
Mount Hermon After the flood. And the gods would go back
between the underworld and the heaven through these portals,
and the rapper, you the rough, I aim had the same ability and
then that takes you into, is he kill 38 just to sort of double
tap down on the existence of this.
Underworld you have the Ginger's that are talked about or The
Travelers that are talked about depending on which English
translation, and Ezekiel 39, in the Gog war, in an end time War,
you take that word back and it's the Hebrew word, a bar, which
means to cross over and it's used in The Book of Job and a
few other places to cross over from Shay, ol from the place,
you know, where the dead are. So, and, and the data is in the
rough, I am Spirits, where they Roam.
And so, you get these Is that they have dominion over these
locations until the end time is resolved.
And if you understand that, then you have to say, okay?
How is that being implemented? Its through a hierarchy.
And that on the earth, you have the descendants of the giants
that are basically operating that through their miss, you
know, mystical religions, and then you have these other Are
creatures that are somehow interacting with them from this
underworld Dimension who are part of that organizational
structure and exerting their influence, on their running
messages back and forth, aren't they?
It makes them think like, so Jesus, rebukes the storm.
That's interesting. Right, you know, this isn't just
rain coming down out of the clouds.
This is this is some type of activity, that's happening as,
yeah. And see, commands it to Top and
storms are related to Fallen Angels.
Absolutely. Now what about Han?
I think it's the Greek or the Roman Pantheon.
It's like this half goat boy, and he's notorious in the
ancient times for playing the music over an area or a
location. That would cause fear and
confusion? No, I think about that and the
frequency of fear I don't know how to compartmentalize what the
nine levels where that would fall, but obviously, these are
the things that are written in history.
And a lot of people who have experiences with, you know, dark
activities will talk about, a paralyzed level, fear takes over
control, your body and move. I was in fear, I was stuck.
I even known when I talked with l.a.
Marzulli. A few years ago, he talked about
a gentleman that went up to the serpent, serpent Stonehenge or
whatever, he was calling it in Ohio.
The guy literally something knocked him in his solar plexus
and he falls back and, you know, he had fear at first and then
was stock you couldn't move in was praying and praying.
And but anyway, long story short, you know, we have a
pandemic. What do you think a pandemic?
Cause it's just, like, widespread fear.
We just, we're just coming out of, you know, this frequency of
Pierre and I can't help. But, yeah, that's, that's an
enemy's tactic. They rule by fear and Terror,
that's what they do. And for their like, to terrorize
humans, don't fear, do not be afraid.
Read the Lord. God will be with you, so that's
definitely interesting to me. Well, you know, and that pan got
it. That's an interesting creature.
That seems to show up after the flood and it is very much
connected to the set tears that are described After the flood,
whether they're a double gold, God or double God as they're
described. But you take that back to Hebrew
is the word set here, here. And then you actually get the
word sit here that shows up in Isaiah. 13 and Isaiah 34.
As these Angelic tight beings that are dancing at the
destruction of Babylon and then in isayah, 34 dancing at the
destruction of Armageddon that's coming.
And so that's interesting that Azazel who is the leader of the
Watchers is depicted as a goat. God, you've got other gods like
Bacchus and the Roman Pantheon. There's a few other derivatives
in the Greek pantheon as well. You've got CERN, that's in the
Etruscan path. On for the gold guide.
You got sir, new nose in the juridical pantheon, but what's
really interesting about that word, sat tear, its
transliterated, it had, it's an essay with kind of an apostrophe
and then it goes in with the it won't be with that e as it's
coming out of Hebrew. It's actually set ear.
So, it's, I, why are now what's really interesting about that is
as I mentioned, Watchers shows up four times In the Book of
Daniel and that word Watcher goes back to the word I year,
which is rooted in another word. That means to be awake.
But these are Watchers right? Because they're awake all of the
time watchful over over the throne and that the word essay
and this is a hyphenated word as we would understand it in
English. So this is a compound word that
comes from a word that means Harry or Shaggy.
And so, yeah. So What you're getting for a
definition out of there is it's a shaky goat or an SN a goat
God. And this seems to me is some
form of degraded Watcher, probably a seraphim down to a
sack tier level. And yet, they're still that kind
of promiscuity from them while they're allowed to walk on the
earth After the flood for a short period of time because
there's they show up in most cultures just as you know, Louis
seems to be Taken with having sat tears in some of his works.
When we read a little bit about like, Hercules you here, he has
these nine labors. So do you think that these kinds
of teas are warring with each other as well throughout
history? Because if Hercules has
considered possibly, to be one of the Mighty Men of Valor that
the Bible makes reference to write these Brave, Mighty Men of
Valor times of old. So he's going and killing this.
I think it's the Nia Millian. I'm saying that correctly and
it's supposed to be the some bizarre lion.
Who's got like unpure ssible skin a chimera, yeah, I'm here.
Hammering. So, these entities even at times
or warring, with each other kind of sounds like, oh they are.
I mean in the centaurs Ward with with the Nephilim as well, and
they were designed to create war and havoc and stuff on Earth.
So there's going to be rivalries.
Now typically the Nephilim and rephaim, they're working
directionally in the same agenda but it's still all about power.
At the end of the day, they want to produce the dragon Messiah
out of those Bloodlines and there can only be one family
that's going to rule. So there's going to be rivalries
in in the end time were told by Jesus in Mark and Matthew and
also in the Epistles of John, that there will be many
Antichrist. So there's going to be a lot of
these Antichrist Antichrist. I figure sort of step forward so
and Hercules is exactly a man of Valor.
I mean he is a demigod in Antiquity.
A demigod is defined as the off Bring of a God and a human
female, or a human male with a goddess.
And in Greek mythology, both the goddesses and the gods produced
Offspring. And so Zeus is said to be the
father of Hercules through, a human female.
And so he's definitely your, your quit sort of perfect
example of a Nephilim that is a rough.
I am probably more accurately. The that that's described.
And in the Bible that was before the flood, and you have parent
gods in Offspring gods and polytheism.
So, you tended seem to have like, the parent Gods, creating
the Nephilim, Before the Flood, and then The Offspring Gods like
Baal. Whose son of el, who takes over
after the flood, because the parent, God's probably were sent
to the abyss. And they're going to recreate,
Nephilim themselves, and Zeus is an offspring.
God as all the In God's After the flood.
Our and I think Hercules is sort of understood as both a postal
moving Giant and an antediluvian joint, because a lot of the post
diluvian Giants took their names from the antediluvian, Giants.
And a classic example of that other than Hercules, because the
stories and the gods, they don't quite line up.
And unless you insert that there's a flood and you have
different rulers on both sides of the flood, Offspring Gods
after apparent Gods before Gilgamesh.
Josh shows up in Enoch Book of Giants, as being part of the
vision and going to Enoch, and I think, son of Cain, in this
case, to see whether there's anything they could do to
prevent the flood from coming, but yet Gilgamesh shows up again
after the flood as being created again after the flood between a
goddess again, and a human, and you would think it's colugo
Banda, because that's listed as his father as a king of a rook.
And so you've got within Gilgamesh one before the flood
and one after the flood and we know Gilgamesh is Nephilim
because he's described as 2/3. God and 1/3 humans just as Anka
do is. So yeah, I think you have a lot
of things that are going on. That makes sort of those direct
sort of parallels that, you know, there is there was a time
after the flood. Were these angels walked among
us and that's what they're trying just As they did before
the flood. And that's what they're trying
to bring about again, in the new Atlantis.
Yeah, we're kind of seeing that manifest in some interesting
ways with where technology is going CERN.
For example, I don't know any of us really know exactly what's
going on there. Obviously, we can go read about
what's depicted the sign of the fella is, you know, anything
about the augmenting, the Greeks called and on itself flows.
I don't know what else I do theft.
Yeah. And yeah, it's crazy.
I mean obviously everybody knows.
Nubes that's a it's a show in itself.
All right man, that's good appearance number three.
We're going to dog me and then we talk about all the different
kinds of Nephilim. But dog man is, you know, it's
recorded throughout history. Yes, right in all continents.
And even up to, you know, the time of you know about 1000 ad
of these Nephilim kinds of Warriors.
And what's interesting is that you mentioned Anubis, which is a
Jackal God, and a parent God and that he produced Offspring and
they were Warrior offspring. That looked like him so dog
light and they lived in a place called Dog city called Sino,
opaline looks good. So, yeah.
I mean, you can't make this no that's all recorded in history.
And what's interesting though is we get a God in the Bible.
That is a God Of the beam. And if the people don't know who
the Avi Mar, they are part of the rough.
I eme After the flood, their different vernacular name, or a
different tribe of the original rough.
IE. And this is the Avi not in the
area of Gaza. These are Eastern veeam as
they're depicted. And the god that they're
worshiping is the god Andy, Vaz, and E.
And I be a zed and that's defined as the parking God.
Oh. I kid you not, you can't move.
Yeah. You just twist where it's how do
they etch it in rock? How is it in every culture?
And every piece of History, it just lines up.
Yeah, I'm definitely interested in dog, man.
It seems to be like a Hot Topic right now to I know a lot of
other people covering a lot of encounters on different shows.
You know, they're inviting guests alone.
Who supposedly had encounters with this creature.
Yeah, we can walk through all the different cultures and we'll
make more Bible connections because I always I always like
to take things. Back to that.
Do we get any sort of accounting of that in the Bible?
And yeah, you know, it's akin to the lineman of Moab, right?
It's the same concept. Well, you blew my mind last time
you were on last October because you talked about the lion men
and the same thing you're doing to me tonight.
I can't write because I keep me using my mic because I'm over
here, doing what? And I'm trying to write
something down and then on meeting the mic, to try to be a
part of this. You're causing a lot more
questions to flow out. And this is what I love because
because the issue is the truth is clearly, Stranger Than
Fiction. We're seeing it.
Kind of slowly bails thinning. And things are starting to
happen where the people that used to shake their head and wag
their tail at this. Kind of information are lining
up with questions. I believe.
A lot of people have had, we are dreams experiences, a feelings,
whatever you want to call it. And a lot of people are scared
to talk about. The Bible, I'm not ashamed of it
and it says, some really weird stuff.
I tell people the Bible is not going to disappear.
If you ask some really tough questions, if you go through and
reading through when you're in God saying, hey go wipe out
these tribes Don't Leave Nobody alive.
While the argument used to be from people who actually didn't
know the word. Oh, how could you serve a God?
That's so Pearl. The context of the Bible is
these are Nephilim tribes. The Bible directly is giving us
the depiction of what these tribes were up to.
We're talking cannibalistic, literally set Out to destroy
God's creation, literally turning the world upside down.
This is not some story gone wrong at your Sunday, service at
church, where like the little kids are down there and send
them all downstairs. Right?
Because even if we get close to a verse where if somebody right
ahead and came back next week and ask the question, why did
God say go kill all these people?
We don't want, you know, we don't want to go there and in
the church needs to, we need to just let the Bible mean exactly
what it says there. And then the diligence, like the
bereans, they Study daily with all Readiness of mind to accept
that which was true in accordance with God's writing,
man. It's an exciting time to be
alive. You get me charged up, man.
I'm super excited talking with you because you just caused me
to go deeper and further. I'm just the guy next door.
I started out with beard questions.
A couple of unique experiences of my own while quite quite a
few actually, over the course of my life.
And it's just catapulting me into realizing the deeper.
I go into the Word. The more it doesn't contradict
itself the more it actually paints a vivid picture precise
about all the other things that are taking place in this this
world that we live in looting times past and what's yet to be
unraveled Gary for me. The Bible is the most
Supernatural book, ever written absolute, and it's a road map.
It's a history and and it's a road map, and it gives you
everything you need to know to understand this world.
But You have to open your eyes to understand that the
brainwashing that we get every day is dumbing down what they
don't want us to understand, and they don't want us to see.
So, it's a bit of a bit of a shocker, but the deeper, you go
into the Bible, it just goes deeper and deeper and deeper.
You know, all things written in the Bible are important.
All the details are important and to have our churches, not
teach prehistory and prophecy. Is not doing service to our
people, whether or not, we're in the Fig Tree generation or not
yet still required to understand the world that that we're living
in. And, you know, when I look at,
you know, when I say all details are important, I mean, because I
come at this as a contrarian in terms of how I came back to
Christ is that I tend to try and verify everything for myself.
And I, you know, I don't rely on what other people say and then I
see how Sort of makes some sense.
And so, you know, I learned quickly that all the details in
the Bible are in part and I may not be able to connect dots
right now, but I know there's something.
There's a reason why that's in the Bible.
And when you're referencing that people don't understand that the
conquest of the Covenant land was against not only just to
rough. I am.
But the hybrid rough, I am humans as well and there's two
different sets of people. They're working together the
Canaanites, you know, we're living.
Amongst the ref IE me. I was surprised started bring my
point to full circle that people didn't understand why nine of
The Twelve Canaanite tribes don't have a patriarch and
nobody ever questions it they're just a group of people.
They are just you know a family of Canaanites you get KN and you
get Hef and you get sidon but the rest well they just must be
from those three. Well then why weren't they
listed as Up group says, they are in the rest of the table of
Nations by each of those Patriarchs because there because
the Bible is telling you, something is not quite right
with these other tribes at least from their creation.
And, you know, we don't get Rafa as a patriarch for the ref.
I am that shows up in Genesis, 14 and 15 as a tribe of people
and just as rough, I am shows up for giant 25 times in the Old
Testament, for the root word for giant.
But rough, I am only shows up two times as I just mentioned,
those 23 in the Bible and what's also interesting is that there's
another tribe called the an achene that show up in numbers,
13 and other passages. But I'll come back to a
connection. A number 13 in a second, but the
Anna came they are tribe of giants that are described in
Deuteronomy to and it. Mentioned twice in there,
specifically said to Be Giants, which is the Hebrew word Rafa
and the. So they're either a division of
the ref. IE more just a vernacular name.
It's hard hard to know but there's different tribes as
they're called. And that the anakim had a
patriarch and it's not Rafa. His name is arba, which is the
greatest of the enact, and patriarch for the NSA.
And his name is mentioned twice. But his name doesn't show up in
the table of Nations because he's a ref I e'en.
So if you take that sort of understanding and you say, wait
a minute. So why aren't why don't the
amorites have a name there? Like a bar or something to that
effect as being one of as a patriarch because the patriarch
would have probably had a name similar to that and dead but was
a rough. I am so that names not Stood, so
you learn that Daughters of the Canaanites have theit's inside
nights or sidonians would have intermarried with rough iene to
create these hybrid humans. And that would have also
overtaken that intermarriage in in Hef and in sidon and in
Canaan as well that they all become these hybrid rough.
I am human. So we get And understanding of
who these people are in numbers 1333.
So, first of all, the Anakin are not, are not the descendants of
giants as it shows up in the embellish, part of the report,
which is the word Nephilim. There is only used three times
twice, the numbers 1333, and once for the creation of the
Nephilim, Before the Flood, they're described in Deuteronomy
to as rough. I am they are a different being
their postal moving, Giants, that were probably a little bit
smaller, but having the terrified disloyal Scouts trying
to terrify the rest of the Israelite people to not to go
into the land, they use the word Nephilim, there to create this
extraordinarily larger fear, and that testifies to the veracity
in itself. That there's our liked
understood, who the Nephilim were before the flood.
Earlier on in the report you have a people that are taller
and stronger than the anakim but are distinct from the anakim and
they are people like the amalekites like the amorites,
like the Canaanites, I won't go through all the names that are
listed there. And in Deuteronomy one, you get
the accurate. Part of the report of the
details confirmed by Moses, 40 years later in Deuteronomy 1.
And again, it talks about the Anna came, which includes the
three kings of shesh? I tell my and a heymann.
And these are the descendants of anak.
So an act might be the fourth one, as a patriarch, but they're
not. The descendants of the Nephilim
is the embellished report says they're the descendants of an
act and there are these other people like the amorites who are
taller than the Israelites. These are ones who intermarried
with the purebred rough iene and produce Giants that were more
seven to nine feet tall versus say 10 to, you know, 16 feet
tall. And if you ossify The Epic of
Gilgamesh is a count and his height, he would have been as
accurate. He would have been 19 feet tall
and this is After the flood, so the Nephilim Before the Flood
would have been even taller still.
So understanding the details that these are the people that
Israel is supposed to go up and fight against and understanding
that they had iron weapons and they had chariots.
And they had all the factories of war and all the strategies of
war and this is a A ragtag team, you know, nation of slaves.
And even after the 40 years, they don't have this technology
of weaponry and they're going to go up against these Giants.
Who have sworn to wipe them from the face of the Earth.
Amazing. Yeah.
I mean the details are so important and that only with the
help of God. Can they win?
Every time they try without the help of God, they get their
butts whooped and so God is going to deliver them up to him.
He sends out hornets and does In other places, some hailstones,
but mostly the accounts are hornets that tended to drive
the, the Giants, crazy, and put him in a state of panic.
So they're Israelites could just walk onto the field and slay
them real quick. Let's introduce the idea of
frequency into that battle style scenario.
Joshua, they March around walls of Jericho, blow the horns, God,
created, all this stuff. He knows the boundaries of
what's what Angelic hosts can also amplify all the different
horns and music equipment that Joshua and his crew were using
to bring down the walls of Jericho and then obviously your
reference with the Hornets driving.
The Giants nuts over, this is crazy.
Quality and frequency is something that is is you know,
technology we haven't fully understood to everything that it
could do. But yeah, the Israelites through
instructions were able to bring down these giant walls, through
frequency music is frequency and in the occult they you know,
it's one of the mystical arts and the mathematics and there's
an energy behind it they try and study and try and harness. and I
think in the ancient world, they probably had control over that
because they walked with the gods and they were able to do
such things but on a limited scale compared to what God could
do, all these ancient cultures, none of what's written and any
of these details are unfamiliar to them, it's just common
knowledge, like they're talking about it around the table, like
we talked about our travel home from work, so it's going to
sound strange to us because the world view isn't built into the
fabric of our Our family, our understanding the way that we
view the world around us is clearly different and that's why
it can seem so strange and off at times because for me, it's
like I talked with Gary now. My mind's broken.
Gosh, I have to go read it, like it out, go take a walk, you
know, and spend some alone time with God now in process, this
stuff and, and that's healthy. I mean, I don't say that with
like, oh no, it's dread. I say it as in like, it's just
lighting up and feeling that feeling I had when I was a kid
like the hope of something so much.
More and then life kind of comes out and starts to crush you and
you realize like, oh they're training me to be a consumer,
but I still am holding onto this.
Hope that there's something so much more beautiful.
Think, a lot of the times we forget, the Bible wasn't written
for me and you and 2022. Now, is it applicable?
Absolutely. Is it the word of God?
Yes. It should.
We have a Biblical filter, if we claim were Christians, 100%
everything that we consume or watch or listen to her whatever
entertain, right? Does the Bible say can take
captive every thought to The Obedience of Christ, right?
It says guard your heart for out of it flow, the issues of life,
and it's almost like the enemy is so smart.
He designed such a complex system that it actually makes
you think that well, for me in the beginning, is it wrong for
me to ask weird questions about the Bible?
And I would have any way of getting that fiery arrows shot
at your head going. Whoa, this is a little too deep.
It's a little too far. Gary really knows his stuff.
You know. Rodney's freaking me out because
he's Super excited about Gary really knowing all these details
and I just don't know what to do with this information, slow
down. Pray, when we approach him in a
humble manner, a broken and contrite spirit, he doesn't
reject. And I just really felt like I
needed to say that because all this information, it can move so
fast. And I know I've talked with even
friends and family members and they said, hey, I was a little
overwhelmed on that episode just trust God's process.
There's so much he wants to show us.
Sometimes we're only scratching the surface, you guys touched on
something. That's very important.
Is that there's a common strategy and tactics that's used
by the superior spurious forces and you can see it in play,
particularly as it applies to Christians living in this sea of
a corrupt world. That is completely dominated by
the Fallen Angels who run this world for a little while.
While longer and the world view, just as it was back in the time
of any of the Ancients through the writing of the Bible, was to
make sure that you weren't going to get information about God.
That was always the world view. And Israel was this island
amongst the Sea of Gentile Nations and there are trying to
wipe that from from the face of the Earth and you had this
dominating, mystical religion both Before and After the flood
that controlled most of the population and sure there's been
some pushback since Jesus came, but it still polytheism is the
largest, you know, switch every single religion in the world
because they're all part of the same Pantheon, but the message
is his To question the world. Not the question who's running
things and that is all throughout history and if you do
they'll probably kill you is what they used to do.
And I think that we might see that coming back as we get
closer to the end time or at least persecute you because we
have a lot of tribulation that's in front of us.
If we're if we are in the Fig Tree generation that same view.
Or that same tactic is used within the church.
So we know our churches have been infiltrated and that
Christians were raised very shortly after the romanization
of the church not to question, what's in the Bible and that,
you know, for the longest time, I mean like in the Roman Church
and right up to the 1960s, they wouldn't even teach it in
English. Yeah.
In the local language, everything was in Latin.
It's all designed to accept. kept the information from those
in charge who most of them are a lot of them at least have been
either brainwashed or corrupted and that we once you start to
recognize that's one of the tactics then it's quite kind of
overwhelming that you need to understand that you need to
question everything including What's being taught in in the
church but as you, I think so eloquently, put out as a Berean
is the way we ought to approach it and sort of challenge things
within our faith as a Berean and then use that same sort of
attitude to challenge outside our community and into the
external world. Because we would like to have
people awaken to what's really going on out there.
Even though we know it's really overwhelming and they're going
to have to sort of calm about it in their own time because it's
just I mean, you just consider the size of the things that
we're talking about and it takes time to adapt and get your head
around some of that. But once you do, you start to
see things completely different and you cannot go back.
We go through these trials, he's harder periods of Life.
Somebody who's ambitious to do the right thing, or make it in
this life. And they are not handed a Golden
Spoon and they struggle and they find themselves falling on their
faces. How much greater is the worth of
us going through these difficult seasons of life, with wanting to
know the truth value of the experience of the hardship and
deprivation when we receive the truth at the end of it.
So much greater because why would you want to take the easy
Road or else? It wouldn't really mean much.
God says, my people are destroyed for their lack of
knowledge. Curious minds.
Listen, if I'm in a position where I can help water that
seed, I'm honored. Hey, there's he who plants, he
who Waters God, Alone gets the glory.
He causes the growth and I think about how the enemy poisons.
The mindset of people to believe that if you're going through
difficult seasons in life, or your knots equation, as you're
not, just going with the flow now floating with the rest of
the fish Downstream. If you're Going against it.
They shame you, you know, we see the shame culture.
We see all these different tactics, the enemies using
literally the Little Goat, dude. He's you know, playing the
instrument of fear over top of our cities.
God says, do not fear, do not be afraid.
Romans talks about all who call upon the name of the Lord will
be saved right now. I am excited to see a generation
of men and women start to rise up and believe what God has
spoken and to By faith, start to take those small steps.
It can look foolish to the world and that's okay.
The Bible says, the cross is foolishness to those who are
perishing but to those who believe it is, the power of God.
And Now's the Time God is calling each and every single
one of us. You're listening to this.
It's not by mistake. This is the kind of information
that's been lost for so long. That now that it's back, It'll
feel weird at first but you guys the peace that surpasses the
understanding the world offers because if we're lost in the
consumer mentality or we're lost in worshipping clothing,
Vehicles relationship, rugs travel.
Your job is never going to fulfill you choose me and my
house. And we're going to we're going
to rock out with the Bible man, unashamed.
And we're going to keep talking with Gary and everybody else
who's willing to talk. With us and we're going to keep
sharing it here on the air for you guys to be able to take this
journey with us as we experience.
And we believe and we ask questions Gary.
We're kind of winding down here, man.
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