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Hello, folks, this is Princess, 
you are listening to the 

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millennial Mustard Seed, pod 
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Thanks for listening. 
Don't forget to share with your 

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friends. 
I stopped wearing a very tough 

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spot. 
I think that what we're doing 

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right now is a great benefit and
virtue because it's an 

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end-around between this whole 
corrupt informational system 

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media system. 
We claim to believe in a God who

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spoke the universe into 
existence and literally raised 

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himself from the dead. 
And yet, we're not going to 

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believe that anything else 
exists in the spirit realm, even

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though his word tells us that 
they do, Their bodies weren't 

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permitted to go to sleep, like 
humans do, and there weren't 

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permitted to go to heaven. 
So, they wander the Earth. 

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You know, I've seen the eyes 
turned black to unknown tongues 

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being spoken. 
These Giants were love way up 

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with all the upgrades, the young
man, which I have been the trees

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away for one of these 12/4 to 
come walking down the back and 

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they would jump on Dragon back. 
Then people start to get 

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weapons, I start to get armor, 
they start to build cities they 

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still supported by their cities.
Now God looks down and there's 

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violence everywhere. 
The battle this war that we are 

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at is not against each other. 
It's against these 

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principalities in these rulers 
in, these are cons in high 

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places. 
It's really worthwhile to read 

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the Bible yourself. 
Here is one of the primary 

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drivers of mind control because 
we have to take every thought 

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captive and resist fear. 
You're going to have a testimony

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that is a Justice case against 
the kingdom of darkness. 

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Welcome back to the millennial 
Mustard Seed pod cast. 

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I'm your host rod and thank you 
for being here. 

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I am joined by Chris price from 
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And this is a really cool inside
conversation where we share some

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personal stories, never talked 
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Before we dive into some strange
Bible verses and just commentary

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on some of the strange American 
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What really happened after World
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It's really just an open 
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Chris where we're able to talk 
about difficult topics but also 

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shares some humor insights and 
comments which I know you're 

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going to find edifying and 
interesting the whole Camp perm 

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on crew which List of crisp 
rice, Tory, Peterson Mike's. 

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Tibbs dr. 
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all have been working as a team 
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come over time. 
But right now, the Bell Witch 

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Project can be found on Mike's 
Tibbs YouTube channel project 

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Revelation which I highly 
recommend that you guys go and 

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check out. 
For the month of May here, I'm 

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going to be very busy. 
I have quite a number of 

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interviews lined up dr. 
Laura Sanger is going to be 

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joining me on the 18th of this 
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What's kind of turning into be 
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which is awesome. 
If you guys have any questions 

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for her, check the show notes 
where you can find the email 

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address to reach me as well as a
bunch of other awesome 

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information. 
And I'll also be a Ring on a few

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other podcasts that are 
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I'm going to be getting 
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That's kind of cool. 
Thank you to everybody who's 

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been listening and supporting 
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Leave me that five star rating 
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for the people who commented, 
asking what the song is, that 

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I've been playing at the end of 
each episode ever since Bo 

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Kennedy joined us from the bump 
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The band is called Bluegrass 
gospel, at heart, out of Mingo 

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County West Virginia. 
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song is an old time. 
Preacher Ray Messer Junior, hope

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I'm pronouncing is less than the
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I really hope it blesses. 
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Anointed and it is an honor to 
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the podcast. 
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more time. 
I'm ready to jump into this 

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episode. 
You guys ready? 

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Let's go. 
Welcome back to the show 

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everybody. 
I have an awesome episode in 

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store for you guys. 
I have Chris Christ here from 

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camp for a month. 
First, it's an honor to have you

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here. 
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Absolutely man, I'm happy to be 
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This is going to be a great 
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guys are doing over there at the
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So, to be able to This 
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and just share thoughts and just
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Really? 
Because that's what I do here on

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the show and it seems to work. 
I guess people keep listening. 

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I don't know. 
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I love the the authenticity, and
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do time. 
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possible. 
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Like generally, I like to have 
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conversations at the same time. 
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Like weird. 
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and authentic, you know, we're 
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characters. 
You know, there's other podcasts

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out there where they're playing 
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and that may not be who they are
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scenes, but we are who we are, 
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quick plug before we jump into 
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let people know where they can 
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that's on your team over there? 
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The podcast is Camp perm. 
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but we're on just about all of 
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platforms. 
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wherever you listen, you can 
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crew of five primarily Tori and 
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Judd Burton is our scholar and 
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from time to time so we love 
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Judd on, because that man is 
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He talked About authenticity, he
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That is dr. 
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him in Merkel, Texas. 
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genuine and straight up as they 
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two other guys that I have to 
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I haven't I haven't met them in 
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spending a good amount of time 
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and FaceTime in and give me a 
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putress Mike's basically. 
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less, what I've when I met Mike.
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we're doing. 
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collab on one project. 
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then if everyone's cool we'll 
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was the documentary that we did 
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project Revelation and so that 
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he agreed to come on. 
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person that likes to do stuff by
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teammates or whatever. 
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and he said he's going to be 
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His Belichick to my Brady you 
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know, he's going to coach us and
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guide and Lead as a kind of the 
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So that's such a blessing man to
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connected we might have 
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The Stranger clock podcast. 
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We might have met through her 
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been doing and we just we 
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and months ago and he was 
telling me about his like 

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channel, the rundown of our 
reality and then I start 

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watching his videos and when I 
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have so many questions so I'm 
hitting them up with questions 

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and I think our average 
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talk would be about an hour and 
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would call him and I'm just 
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I was just like do you want to 
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Like with his background with? 
He's basically as a professional

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broadcasting background as far 
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you know editing and all that 
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editing and writing. 
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hey, man, we'd love to have you 
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come on board and so, yeah, he's
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But what I love about this crew 
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willing to kind of do whatever 
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successful as far as wanting to 
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great group. 
Yeah, really is a great group 

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and I just enjoy listening to 
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and with Enoch and Mike's Tibbs,
you know did the trailer for the

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Millennium mustard seed? 
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because I'm like it was so well 
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reality. 
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on On a screen now, you know, 
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me. 
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as he has, sharpened to me and 
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haven't really thought about. 
And then he's actually like, no,

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you're keeping up with me, I'm 
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about this Gosset? 
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over here? 
He's like, no, you're doing 

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fine. 
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He's awesome to just, yeah. 
You're you know, memory and 

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creativity and learning with and
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we did that. 
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William Ramsay. 
The end of last year's actually 

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the first time I seen Tori and 
she's just a sweetheart, you 

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know? 
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She just has this gentleness to 
her and inquisitiveness and 

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she's just not afraid to say 
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The whole crew. 
Amazing. 

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So it's my honor to have you 
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Sears, not men. 
Yeah, no, I love it. 

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Now, it's going to say, kind of 
the best for last Tori. 

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She's fantastic man. 
And she is sweet. 

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She is kind, but she can. 
Be a firecracker to that's got 

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him. 
That's kind of a side that we 

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get to see behind the scenes. 
She has an eye for detail when 

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it comes to just like Graphics, 
she does the episode art that we

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post. 
She kind of puts she puts that 

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together and she's designing 
merch right now. 

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She has a really Keen eye for 
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Because, if it were me, bro, I'm
just like, throw something 

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together. 
Be like, that looks good enough.

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Yeah. 
Yeah and you can really see it. 

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Like I seen you did the drop 
with Cryptid soap and then 

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Kevlar. 
Joe's Coffee everybody just 

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willing to do whatever it takes 
to bring this community. 

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Together of like-minded, 
believers who are not afraid to 

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talk about strange things in the
Bible. 

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Exactly. 
Yeah, I mean, for me, it's about

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community and fellowship, you 
know what I'm saying? 

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Like that's, that's what's so 
important and one of the reasons

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why we started is we Had to have
a place for people in this kind 

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of Fringe Christian space to be 
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And to be to feel comfortable 
enough to have these weird 

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conversations and be open enough
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They had. 
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on to share experiences, I mean 
we've had we've had Tim on who's

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in Australia, who is a Satanic 
ritual, abuse Survivor and he 

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reached out he wanted to tell 
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And I believe there's power in 
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enemy wants us to keep quiet. 
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share, even just kind of do even
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shut up and be quiet. 
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testifies to the goodness of 
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It testifies to his his goodness
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never know who's going to hear 
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It is going to be encouraged by 
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hear that even on The Mustard 
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sometimes taking the journey, 
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that happened past because all 
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stuff where I'm like, oh it's 
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was this night terror. 
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So we're not afraid to talk 
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grow more people are stepping 
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family, when you're with 
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yo, Chris dealing with this or 
what are your thoughts on this 

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And to not get shunned or right?

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Treated like a regular like you 
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and you're going to have some 
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you're like, you sure you still 
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conversations, man. 
It's hard to have them these 

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It is about almost anything. 

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there might be like a Little bit
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opinions. 
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open to like, okay, this bible 
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the pulpit. 
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want, but I'm I know why they 
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the church and unfortunately, it
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It's a dollars and cents issue. 
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have been They're kind of 
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about business so to speak as 
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father's business. 
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good intentions. 
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scripture, that's just just 
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the Nephilim and the sons of 
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lot of pastors will stray away 
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reasons I'm not saying it's the 
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Preach some of this stuff. 
Is are people going to leave? 

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That money that's going to walk 

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out the door and when when 
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you're now worried about paying 
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that's in there. 
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desensitized from the truth of 
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the times. 
I've noticed people have trouble

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believing Their Own Story, the 
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because they're just trained to 
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the back burner and go to work. 
Make sure you don't have less 

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than 40 this week. 
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because I want to go on a cruise
on eat, right? 

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life where the generations 
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key things that I believe key 
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feel like they're looking for 
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She's easy to go with the flow, 
just easy to be led. 

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Lead. 
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make a business but that's not 
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We are looking to put God first 
to go to the Bible and ask weird

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questions, not being the 
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if we ask anything about it. 
You guys, you don't have to be 

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like oh no you can't go there 
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the Bible and it's weird. 
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important. 
I think Heiser hides are used to

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say the visor to not mistaken. 
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that I heard, or I think it was 
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great church. 
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some of the weirder stuff, he 
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about it. 
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it, but he would give people a 
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go and dig into that. 
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which I thought was a good 
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things like with the Divine 
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origin of like demons, and the 
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this kind of stuff and look, 
small Groups, but it's like it's

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so new and different to a lot of
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been kind of programmed to like,
think Mmm, it's hard for them to

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like grasp a lot of it. 
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church because I'm like man I 
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with this stuff but there's not 
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that I can do that with at that 
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He's like, you have and like, we
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it provides that outlet for us 
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conversations and to go deeper. 
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all you get out of your church 
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that's enough, because you can 
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elsewhere. 
Like there's so many resources 

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like with the naked Bible 
podcast with you know Heiser had

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before he passed and the 
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other you know pastors that are 
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you can get you can get it, 
Chuck Missler stuff. 

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flesh-and-blood Community. 
Wow that Fellowship that we need

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like we need to be And the 
presence of other men and other,

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you know, couples and families 
to hug on, and to pray with, and

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to just share our lives with. 
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who's listening and they're 
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I'm there's just my church 
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Well, if you have Fellowship, 
then you can get, you can get 

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the kind of the meat, you can 
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And so that really blessed me 
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now I'm from that moment, as I 
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and shoot on it, I've come to 
this place where I'm really 

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content now because I have I get
that Fellowship. 

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I get to, to be in the same room
with other believers to Worship 

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the Lord together, and yet the 
the word is good, but that 

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fellowship and worshipping 
together, man. 

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There's there's nothing like it,
so that's Enough. 

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I needed to hear that if that 
helps one person Chris, if this 

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episode, you know, it gets down 
those people listen. 

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But if somebody actually turns 
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just like David in the in the 
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the house of the Lord and I'm 
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right? 
I'm going to go and I'm going to

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shout and I'm gonna be, yes, I'm
gonna write and just have that 

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fellowship and camaraderie in 
the Philadelphia, the brotherly 

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love if it is. 
It helps one person then then 

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it's worth all the prep, all the
editing all you know just is 

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worth it. 
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Can I can I share something else
that I think is kind of relevant

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to that? 
And I think it's important and 

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there's going to be other 
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They're listening and they're 
like, yeah I mean you don't you 

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don't know what happened to me 
at church. 

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I'm never stepping foot into a 
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there's a term kind of 
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church hurt and I just want to 
share something that happened to

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me in. 
I've still With it a little bit.

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And then this happened like 
years and years ago, in my first

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marriage, bro. 
One of the pastors at our church

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was like, tried to hook up with 
my wife, like at the time and it

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was a situation where she was 
weak in that moment. 

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Nothing like nothing physically 
happened, but just some like 

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inappropriate messages back and 
forth. 

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This guy was basically like a 
wolf in sheep's clothing. 

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He was like the marriage and 
family pastor at our church and 

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I remember being so hurt. 
They tried to keep the guy on 

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staff, they try to kind of like 
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What? 
He had what he tried to do and 

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I'm like that's that's just 
that's not right. 

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You can't do that. 
You can't have someone who's 

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actively trying to hook up with 
the wives of members in your 

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church and then keep them on 
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time. 
Like I had known this guy for a 

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long time, like he was in 
college when I was in high 

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school and I'd gotten I got 
saved in this church so I was 

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really hurt that he didn't like 
have my back. 

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He wanted to protect, you know, 
this pastor that he was kind of 

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grooming and raising up. 
And so like I was really hurt 

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because that situation ended up 
ending like my marriage, she 

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left. 
And we got divorced and I was I 

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was in a dark place for months 
and months after that. 

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And I didn't go to church for 
for a while and even when I did 

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started going to church again 
because I love the church bro, 

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Love the church, missed the 
church but I was when I went 

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back, I was so hurt that I just 
didn't try didn't trust pastors 

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like I'm like I still to this 
day won't cost, you know, 

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sometimes you call them like, 
you know, Pastor so and so I 

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call them by their first name. 
I'm like I don't even refer to 

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them as Pastor because I used to
put these people up on like a 

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pedestal, you know, like they're
special or different, or 

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whatever, so I'm still kind of 
working through some of it. 

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For people who've maybe 
experience like church hurt. 

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I just want to encourage those 
people like don't don't let that

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keep you away from the church 
because another thing that the 

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enemy loves to do is to get us 
isolated because what is it? 

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What does the word say three 
stranded cord is not easily 

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broken, right? 
Like We Are Better Together. 

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We are stronger together us when
we're by ourselves were 

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typically like week and just get
beat up. 

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So I'll just I'll get off my 
soapbox about that. 

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I just wanted to wanted to share
that but it's important that we 

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we fellowship and then we be a 
part of a community. 

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Those are actually really 
important because this is the 

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place for that. 
Vicki, Joy told me. 

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She was like, man, this is a 
place for people to be able to 

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come on here and just share what
you're going through. 

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It's going to reach somebody 
else's, going to open somebody 

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else's eyes. 
It may be a word. 

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They need to hear. 
So, I just, and so malleable and

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graceful in these Is where if 
that's what's going to help 

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somebody and you've already 
said, one thing that's helped me

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on this episode's, we're making 
a difference. 

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It's doing what it's supposed to
do and that's why there's no 

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shame in this game, man. 
And that's with no overhead, 

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with no co-pastor being like 
excuse me, you can't bring that 

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up on your record and it's like 
right? 

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But I will share real quick. 
One Church, you know scenario 

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that had hindered, my family 
significantly Menace is before 

447
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,500
my time So just this will just 
go to show and this may help a 

448
00:26:36,508 --> 00:26:38,700
listener to there may be other 
people out there that are 

449
00:26:38,708 --> 00:26:41,000
dealing with something similar 
to this. 

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This is even before I was born. 
So my dad lost his mother when 

451
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he was seven years old and she 
was 100% Italian Roman Catholic.

452
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You know, my dad's dad was a 
young German American went into 

453
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the military was like a 
non-denominational believer, who

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was a farmer before service and 
they got married. 

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And my dad's mother Rose decided
to pretty much become a 

456
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non-denominational. 
Nomination will believer. 

457
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She was an Italian princess 
Angelo Bruno, who was the only 

458
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:12,900
mob boss of Philadelphia ever? 
Would come all the way out the 

459
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Phoenixville PA because he was 
really good friends with my 

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00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:19,100
great-grandfather Giuseppe. 
So this is like this, like 

461
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powerful Italian family in the 
Philadelphia area, you know, 

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just because of who they knew 
and who they were friends with 

463
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and Rose is like adored by 
everybody, but she dies of brain

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cancer, when my dad is 7 years 
old. 

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And they all rejected my dad and
his two brothers and sister. 

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Because they were mutts. 
They weren't 100% Italian and 

467
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they weren't Roman Catholic. 
So my dad carried that his whole

468
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life. 
My thing the church was, as I 

469
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went Easter Christmas. 
You know, family friends would 

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be like, really churched out and
my mom would just forget it. 

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Why don't you go to youth group 
and stop doing graffiti at the 

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abandoned buildings down by the 
railroad tracks? 

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You know, like do something kid 
and I'm like, all right, I'll go

474
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,900
check it out. 
So, I remember even going to 

475
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church at times, but there was 
always just like stigma of their

476
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so fake, be careful because my 
dad was So hurt here is like the

477
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side of his family, he shares 
half of their blood and because 

478
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he was not 100% Italian and 
because he was not Roman 

479
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Catholic, he was literally 
rejected him and his brothers 

480
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and sister their whole lives 
that carried over into the way, 

481
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we were raised in. 
My mom really was the one who 

482
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was getting us to church on 
Easter and Christmas or 

483
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candlelight services for 
Christmas Eve and stuff like 

484
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that. 
That was a church hurt. 

485
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That was generational. 
I didn't want to start going to 

486
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church until I was well really 
consistently. 

487
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Until I gave my life to the Lord
in a courtroom. 

488
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Right outside of Philadelphia in
Norristown PA and I surrendered 

489
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,900
my heart and just said, okay, 
let's do things your way because

490
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,800
at that time I would like gave 
up stuff and was trying to do, 

491
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,300
what was right, but still just 
like, stepping on the rake and 

492
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:01,400
it just boat right up in my 
face, every step I took and it 

493
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,400
wasn't until I handed my heart 
in humility and obedience, and 

494
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,000
just a Yuan broken. 
Contrary spirits of the Lord? 

495
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,100
That that my life started to 
shift and I think God wants to. 

496
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,500
He really wants us to know that 
he is the way, the truth and the

497
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,700
life not an organization are 
family members. 

498
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:25,000
Aren't always going to be there 
for us. 

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00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:30,100
There's going to be times where 
you are alone, not by choice or 

500
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:33,400
by choice, but God is not going 
to leave. 

501
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:38,000
Our sides, he's not going to 
reject us, he's not going to 

502
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,100
cast this away. 
That's just a snippet of how 

503
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,000
difficult it was for me to start
like a fringe Christian podcast 

504
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,300
because you know my Elder 
influence my father, he's 

505
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:52,200
against all of it. 
So I go gung-ho and study the 

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00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,700
Bible like a madman, give my 
life to the Lord, start living 

507
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:58,000
more radically and just 
believing it and, and praying. 

508
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,500
And really walking with the Lord
and starting a podcast where I'm

509
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:02,500
diving into things about the 
Bible. 

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00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,900
I mean, that's that's difficult.
It's just not easy when you 

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don't have a support system. 
So what you're saying Chris is 

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right, we need to see Brothers 
dwell in together in unity. 

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00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,100
Like we we can't be alone. 
We can't be alone on this 

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00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:19,700
process. 
So I think this is like a really

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good transition point. 
I'm going to ask you do you want

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00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,200
to share like one of your maybe 
top two or three weirdest Bible 

517
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,900
verses? 
Yeah okay so I've got one here 

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and It's it has to do with 
baptism. 

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00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,200
So if you do like a study on 
baptism, or if you go to a 

520
00:30:36,208 --> 00:30:40,400
church where they're talking 
about like, water baptism the 

521
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church that I used to go. 
To, once a quarter, we had 

522
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baptisms. 
The pastor would preach his, you

523
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,300
know, baptism sermon and I've 
heard a lot of baptism sermons. 

524
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:56,400
I've done, you know, different 
Bible studies on baptism and 

525
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,600
I've never heard anyone bring up
this set of verses. 

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00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:06,400
Verses in First Peter 3. 
Let me find a good good place to

527
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start. 
Here, I'll start in First Peter 

528
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:17,900
3:18 It says for Christ also 
suffered once for sins, the just

529
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for the unjust in order that he 
could bring you to God being put

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00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,000
to death in the flesh, but made 
alive in the spirit in which 

531
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also he went and proclaimed to 
the spirits in prison who were 

532
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:35,100
formerly disobedient. 
When the patience of God, waited

533
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:39,400
in the days of Noah while an ark
was being constructed in which a

534
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,500
few that is eight Souls were. 
Skewed through water and also 

535
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:49,900
corresponding to this baptism. 
Now saves you not the removal of

536
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:52,900
dirt from the flesh but an 
appeal to God, for a good 

537
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:55,500
conscience, through the 
resurrection of Jesus Christ, 

538
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:59,300
who is at the right hand of God 
having gone into heaven, with 

539
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:02,500
angels and authorities and 
power, having been subjected to 

540
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:12,200
him. so, these verses It's that 
that parallel of water baptism 

541
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to the flood and even talks 
about going to the prison, the 

542
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:22,600
spirits in prison. 
Those are the arms of the Fallen

543
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,200
Watchers who descended upon 
Mount Hermon and mated with the 

544
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,600
daughters of men, who had the 
Nephilim who were their 

545
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,800
offspring, who are these, the 
Giants, the demigods of old, 

546
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,300
That's not. 
I know why they don't talk about

547
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:42,800
this when they talk about 
baptism because they don't want 

548
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,700
to get into this conversation 
about Nephilim in these demigods

549
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,700
and all of them. 
Do all of that weird stuff. 

550
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Oh my gosh. 
That's okay. 

551
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,600
So listeners open those Sailors 
versus once again. 

552
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:06,200
Chris, where exactly were you at
its first Peter 3 as at the end 

553
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,700
of Of the Church of the third 
chapter starting in. 

554
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,300
I just, I read from verses 18 to
the end of the chapter, go back 

555
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:16,000
open. 
First, Peter, 3:18, to the end 

556
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,800
of the chapter, go read that for
yourselves and pray about it and

557
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,700
say God, what what's really 
going on here? 

558
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,900
And you might be pleasantly 
surprised that if we ask God 

559
00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:28,900
something in accordance with his
word, how he can give us some 

560
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:32,200
Revelation, some insight, and 
help it to connect together. 

561
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:34,600
So I'm going to read one. 
I'm going to read a weird one 

562
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:40,700
here myself, okay? 
This is Jeremiah 19 verse 9. 

563
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,900
And I will cause them to eat the
Flesh of their sons and the 

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00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:49,700
Flesh of their daughters and 
they shall eat everyone. 

565
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:53,400
The Flesh of his friend in The 
Siege and straightness. 

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00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:57,900
We're in their enemies and they 
that seek their lives shall 

567
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,300
straighten it with them. 
That was the King James version.

568
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:04,000
I don't know what version this 
is, but I'm going to read. 

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00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,200
I'm going to read this one as 
well. 

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00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:08,100
I will make them eat the Flesh 
of their sons and daughters and 

571
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:10,300
they will eat. 
One another's flesh because 

572
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:15,300
their Amy's will press the siege
so hard against them to destroy 

573
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:18,600
them. 
That's a weird first man. 

574
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,100
Jeremiah 99 I'm pretty sure you 
knock. 

575
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:23,500
Might have a field day with 
that. 

576
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:25,199
One up. 
I might send that to him after 

577
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,300
this recording. 
Can I break that? 

578
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:31,000
Can I break that down for you? 
Let's go, if you go back and you

579
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,800
look at Jeremiah, if you go back
in verse like we get first for, 

580
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,300
he says, because they have 
forsaken me and they have deface

581
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:42,500
this place and they have made 
smoke offerings in it to other 

582
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:46,500
gods whom they have not known 
they nor their ancestors. 

583
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,100
The kings of Judah, and they 
have filled up this place with 

584
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,800
the blood of the innocent there.
So there and okay, verse 5 and 

585
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,400
they have built the high places 
of Baal but all to turn their 

586
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,200
children in the fire. 
Burnt offerings to Baal which I 

587
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,400
commanded not and I ordered not 
and it did not come to my mind. 

588
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,400
So what's happening here is 
you've got the people of Israel 

589
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,400
who are sacrificing their 
children. 

590
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:21,200
To bail. 
But all so what's happening is 

591
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:24,900
and I can off the top of my 
head, I don't know what force is

592
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:32,700
coming in but whenever Israel 
rejects God God judges Israel in

593
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:38,400
those judgments you typically 
come in the form of an invasion 

594
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,600
of foreign army coming in and 
taking possession of the land. 

595
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:49,300
Even Eiling, you know, taking 
Israelites as slaves back to, 

596
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,600
you know, like Babylon. 
So the siege of these talking 

597
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,300
about its Siege Warfare, right? 
Like they've got their City 

598
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:57,700
walls. 
So these armies are surrounding 

599
00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:01,200
the city, they're coming because
the Lord essentially has has 

600
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,700
brought them in its judgment on 
Israel for them. 

601
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:10,400
Not only rejecting him 
worshipping these false gods who

602
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,100
are the Fallen Watchers, by the 
way. 

603
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,900
But Sacrificing their own 
children is saying, you're going

604
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:20,400
to, you're going to eat them and
what would happen in Siege 

605
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,600
Warfare starve you out? 
You would have no food Dave 

606
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,600
starve you out. 
I mean, people would literally, 

607
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,300
they would eat, would they would
eat leather and and when it got 

608
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:34,100
bad enough, they would eat their
own children. 

609
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:38,300
What? 
So then this is a strong 

610
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:43,200
judgment coming against the 
people of Israel for for their 

611
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,600
worship of Baal. 
It's wild in my mind that it's a

612
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,300
declaration that your kids. 
I mean, obviously we know you 

613
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:54,100
just kind of broke it down for 
his like, hey, they're 

614
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:57,000
sacrificing their children 
already, you know, they're 

615
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,600
literally rejected the Lord, 
even if I split verse 7 and I 

616
00:37:01,607 --> 00:37:04,400
will cause them to Fall by the 
sword before their enemies. 

617
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:07,200
And by the hands of Of them that
seek their lives and their 

618
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,700
carcasses. 
I will give to be neat for the 

619
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,900
fowls of the heavens and for the
beasts of the earth. 

620
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,700
And I will make this city 
desolate and the hissing, 

621
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:20,700
everyone that passes by shall be
astonished and hiss, because of 

622
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:25,300
all the plagues thereof and then
verse 9 is, I will cause them to

623
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:27,000
eat the Flesh of their sons and 
daughters. 

624
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:30,600
It's wild. 
What scares me about that. 

625
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,900
Also is what we see going on in 
this nation. 

626
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:39,600
The Versus the generations are 
being cut off, and I say that 

627
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,000
again because that we're seeing 
practices that are put up on a 

628
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,800
pedestal in this country where 
people actually think it's cool 

629
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,700
to transition out of what you 
were born as it's. 

630
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:55,200
So listen bizarre, I mean wrap 
my head around it. 

631
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,000
Yeah, I mean, you're talking, 
you're talking about the, the 

632
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,200
trains of the trans movement, 
but what we, what we had, you 

633
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,500
know what, you know what 
probably pales in comparison. 

634
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,700
Comparison to the child 
sacrifice. 

635
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:11,900
That was going on with what's 
real abortion in this country 

636
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:17,400
not Generations. 
I mean, tens of millions of 

637
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,600
children were sacrificed over 
since, you know, Roe v-- Wade 

638
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,500
which is like, what? 
Like in the 70s. 

639
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:32,600
So for, you know, roughly 40 to 
50 years and to be honest, dude,

640
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,900
I'm an Air Force veteran. 
Grew up Saying the Pledge of 

641
00:38:36,908 --> 00:38:40,700
Allegiance, the national anthem 
saw, that kind of stuff, which 

642
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:43,900
I'm learning. 
Now, is, is a form of 

643
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:48,500
programming and mind, control 
and conditioning. 

644
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,600
Because as Christians, like, I'm
not, and I'm not an American, 

645
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,700
I'm not white, I'm not a male 
like I'm a Christian, like my 

646
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:01,400
identity is that I'm I'm in 
Christ in heaven. 

647
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:05,400
If anyone is in Christ, you are 
a new creation old things have 

648
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,400
passed away, and all things have
become new. 

649
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:12,000
I am a new creation in Christ, 
and so I say that the veteran 

650
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,700
thing because like, I got me, I 
used to be so proud of my 

651
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,800
country and like America is the 
greatest country in the world. 

652
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:22,700
The more, the more I learn just 
about a lot of different stuff 

653
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:26,300
in general. 
The more I see I'm like, yo is 

654
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:28,900
America like Babylon? 
Like are we Babylon? 

655
00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:32,200
Because yeah, with not just 
like, not just. 

656
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:37,400
The abortion, but like, the 
influences in this country are 

657
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,600
insane. 
It's like, the more you learn 

658
00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:42,800
and we're not talking about 
conspiracy theory here, right? 

659
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,300
Like, we're talking about 
abortion. 

660
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:46,600
Everybody knows about abortion. 
You can look up the numbers of 

661
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,300
like how many babies were 
aborted? 

662
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,000
You can look up the fact that 
like Planned Parenthood was 

663
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,300
selling parts of these babies to
companies that are using the 

664
00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:01,200
parts of these babies to make 
flavor enhancers for their 

665
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,700
beverages. 
If you're drinking a Pepsi right

666
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:09,200
now, like they use flavor 
enhancers from aborted, fetuses 

667
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,100
to make to make that flavoring 
for that order. 

668
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:15,400
And it's just it's just it's 
insane and like I said we're not

669
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,300
we're talking about fact we're 
not talking about conspiracy 

670
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:20,600
theory. 
Look look up. 

671
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,900
Operation Paperclip. 
Yeah. 

672
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:27,600
Like when Germany fell at the 
end of World War Two, we brought

673
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,900
over so many high-ranking Nazi 
scientist, we brought movers 

674
00:40:31,900 --> 00:40:33,500
offer. 
Money's Warner. 

675
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:34,800
Von Braun. 
Yep. 

676
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,900
The ton of scientists. 
And so they were they were put 

677
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:43,500
in influential positions in this
country and many of their 

678
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:48,000
grandchildren are like 
Representatives like in their 

679
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,500
states. 
And in this, the philosophies 

680
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:54,600
that are being handled down, but
check this out. 

681
00:40:54,700 --> 00:41:00,500
So like study Eugenics to 
because what they did in World 

682
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:05,500
War two are alike, not Germany 
is the Eugenics. 

683
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,900
Like, basically, anybody who was
like mentally mentally like 

684
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:12,500
handicapped, like they would 
kill them. 

685
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,700
If you were like homosexual, 
like they would, they thought 

686
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:18,100
you were like, deranged? 
They would they would kill you. 

687
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,300
Let's see. 
What was the other things they 

688
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,900
would do with eugenic, 
sterilization, just all that 

689
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,700
kind of stuff. 
Do you know where they got their

690
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:31,800
Eugenics program from where they
got it from us? 

691
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,200
They got it from the US. 
Look up Margaret Sanger who was 

692
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,000
the founder of Planned 
Parenthood? 

693
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,600
She was a famous eugenicist, one
of the reasons why of vast 

694
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:50,300
majority of planned parenthood's
even to this day are in black 

695
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:54,300
and brown neighborhoods is 
because they considered black 

696
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:57,000
and brown people to be inferior 
races. 

697
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,500
And so they wanted to try to 
eradicate them Hitler got those 

698
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:05,800
philosophies from the US. 
Okay, my mind wants to go like 

699
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,800
three different ways right now. 
So bear with me because I'm 

700
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,300
remembering so much like 
conversations I've had with like

701
00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:15,800
Gary Wayne and just other people
and just looking into Hitler 

702
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,000
myself and just history, all of 
this stuff, it's not conspiracy.

703
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,800
I actually had the definition of
conspiracy pulled up your own. 

704
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,700
Wikipedia, a conspiracy theory 
is an explanation for an event 

705
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:31,000
or situation that asserts the 
existence of Conspiracy by 

706
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,700
powerful and Sinister groups 
often political motivation. 

707
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,600
I'm not going to keep reading 
but that's Wikipedia on 

708
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,100
conspiracy theory. 
So look at the music. 

709
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,300
You guys, I've been trying to 
get flf floodlight forever. 

710
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:47,900
Use a rap artist from the West 
Coast on and I kind of get like 

711
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:50,800
minor commitments from him. 
So flf if you're listening to 

712
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,000
this, get back to me, bro. 
Let's get you on here. 

713
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,800
He doesn't eat it. 
A whole YouTube channel, and all

714
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,000
of his music. 
To exposing the Illuminati 

715
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,600
symbolism, the dark occult 
ritual practices in the music 

716
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,900
industry. 
So here again like you're saying

717
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,400
Chris is, it's not a conspiracy.
It's right out in the open. 

718
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,800
It's almost like they have went 
from hiding from God to in 

719
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,200
secrecy to just straight out. 
Here, we are, were ready for a 

720
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,400
war with you. 
And your kind, is this like a 

721
00:43:20,408 --> 00:43:22,100
duck? 
They're making a declaration of 

722
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,700
war by stealing our children, my
stealing our blessings, by 

723
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:29,000
stealing our mind space. 
Like Eating us confused and 

724
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,700
corrupted in in the rat. 
Race of these systems that are 

725
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:34,700
slowly breaking us down to the 
point where we don't have much 

726
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:37,700
to offer at the end of the day 
after making everything happen. 

727
00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:41,000
Just so we can survive. 
We don't have much fight left in

728
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,100
us. 
How do we get this across to the

729
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,900
the church that these topics can
be covered within all of these 

730
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:50,400
gatherings that we can start to 
look at the word of God and say,

731
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:56,200
this is the full that the volume
of the book is the truth of who 

732
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,600
Christ is, and if we know 
anything About the Christ, the 

733
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,100
Messiah, the Lamb of God, he 
overcame this world, he calls us

734
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:07,100
to expose the darkness in this 
world, he calls us to love the 

735
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:09,200
Lord, our god with our mind, our
heart, our body or soul and to 

736
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,900
love our neighbor as ourselves. 
But yet, we are bathing in 

737
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,600
entertainment. 
That is the opposite of that. 

738
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,600
How come Chris people are 
supporting these crazy? 

739
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,000
Psychopathic TV shows, but then 
a guy like me starts a podcast, 

740
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:24,800
literally, I get people that 
snub me all the time. 

741
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,500
Like all, it's just a little 
podcaster, I don't know. 

742
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:29,800
What you talked about and it's 
like, but you'll sit there and 

743
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,500
congratulate and, oh, yeah, oh, 
this is great, you know, psycho 

744
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:36,300
murder TV show and then you'll 
go to church on Sunday and 

745
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:37,500
float. 
Your hands up in the air and 

746
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:38,400
worship. 
Jesus. 

747
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:42,200
But nobody's out here, actually 
saying, yo, this is what the 

748
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,500
word says, and we need to be 
coming together. 

749
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,900
We need momentum to stand 
against this Darkness. 

750
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:49,600
So, sorry, I went on a rant 
there, man. 

751
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,600
But really, that's just me. 
You know, me, come on. 

752
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,500
We talk like this off. 
Are we talk like this on the 

753
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:56,200
phone? 
They're just write me. 

754
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,300
You got me in the mood, bro. 
Yeah, bro. 

755
00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:04,100
Well I was just going to say 
like probably more important 

756
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,300
than ever for us. 
Like if you call yourself a 

757
00:45:07,308 --> 00:45:13,200
Christian to know why you 
believe what you believe to be 

758
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:19,400
solid in your beliefs and your 
understanding, because what has 

759
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,300
happened is, There's a 
breakdown. 

760
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,600
In what, what everything is, the
definition of everything is 

761
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:36,700
questioned and it's an agenda. 
If you want to destroy a system 

762
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:43,200
you or if you want to start a 
new system, Across a population,

763
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,800
like a large population, you've 
got to First destroy. 

764
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,000
What's already? 
There are even within a person 

765
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,600
when you go into like, military 
basic training, One aspect of 

766
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,600
military that they have to do, 
they want, they've got to break 

767
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,600
you down to build you back up. 
They want to be able to mold you

768
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:07,700
and shape you. 
So, we've got forces constantly 

769
00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:11,200
coming against us, trying to 
break us down. 

770
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,600
And when I say, forces, I'm 
talking about, like, forces of 

771
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,600
evil and forces of Darkness, not
just like people absolute and 

772
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,000
the enemy hates us. 
I think primarily because As 

773
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,400
we're human. 
And so everything that the enemy

774
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,800
is doing to us the spiritual 
attacks, how he's influencing 

775
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:37,100
other humans to try to destroy 
us and break us down. 

776
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:44,600
It's all meant to dehumanize us.
One aspect of us being whole in 

777
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:50,800
Christ is knowing what we 
believe, and why we believe it. 

778
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:55,800
So there's a guy. 
I don't agree with everything 

779
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,100
that that he believes or, he 
said, but generally over all his

780
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:04,600
work is work as great, his name 
is Hank, Hanna graph and he's 

781
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,500
got a show called The Bible 
answer, man. 

782
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,900
And his big books are really 
good, like he's a really good 

783
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:13,900
apologist. 
And so, for me, like years ago, 

784
00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:16,500
when I was trying to learn like,
okay, what's like, essential 

785
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:20,500
Christian doctrine and I forget 
what this term is, but he'll 

786
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:24,500
take a word and he'll break it 
down in the word is Doctrine, 

787
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:26,100
okay, like how do I know like 
what? 

788
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:28,300
What's essential Christian 
doctrine? 

789
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:34,400
So, an easy way to remember this
is to take that word Doctrine, d

790
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:38,800
stands, for the deity of Christ,
o stands for original sin. 

791
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:44,800
The crucifixion, the Trinity, 
the resurrection Incarnation new

792
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,500
creation and then eschatology. 
So yeah, check out hand counter 

793
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:50,300
graph stuff. 
Because for me, I'm like, when 

794
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:53,100
I'm when I Thinking about 
essential Christian doctrine, 

795
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,400
that's a good starting point of 
running through those aspects of

796
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,600
Doctrine as he as he's broken it
down and he's got he's got a 

797
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,300
bunch of other ones like that 
for four different things that 

798
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:06,800
you want to remember, as far as 
being able to communicate what 

799
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,200
you believe, and remembering 
that stuff. 

800
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:13,000
Because deep man, you're a 
wealth of information, wisdom 

801
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,100
and good reference man. 
This is good. 

802
00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:20,300
I'm going to ask you what is the
most rewarding thing that doing 

803
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:22,800
the podcast. 
It's what's the ripple effect 

804
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,300
that you've caught wind of? 
That's helped you to just 

805
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:27,400
realize, like, I'm not letting 
off the gas. 

806
00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:32,100
Yeah, I'd have to say, the 
reason why we started a podcast 

807
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:38,000
community. 
So when we set out on to Duke a 

808
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,400
mon we decided that the way 
we're going to treat people as 

809
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:44,200
and this is kind of how I live 
my life. 

810
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,100
In general. 
I believe in treating everybody 

811
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:49,700
with dignity and respect, no 
matter who you are, no matter 

812
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:52,200
what you look like. 
So, We said we're not going to 

813
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,700
call people fans. 
You know when we talked about 

814
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:57,300
earlier like these are fans of 
our show like we don't we don't 

815
00:48:57,300 --> 00:49:00,000
even use that like language when
we talk about it. 

816
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,600
When we talk about people who 
like we interact with we're like

817
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,500
these are friends. 
These are our friends. 

818
00:49:05,500 --> 00:49:08,700
These are so if you hear me say 
like a friend of the show like 

819
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:10,500
that's what I mean. 
I'm like it could be someone 

820
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:13,700
who's listening someone who is a
member of camper Mon and who's 

821
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:15,600
in like our private Facebook 
group. 

822
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,700
I'm like these are my friends. 
So the biggest impact that I've 

823
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:25,100
had It is being able to make 
these genuine connections with 

824
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:28,600
people that like that message, 
me, or that become members. 

825
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,300
And we're interacting for me, 
bro. 

826
00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:36,800
It's all about the community. 
It feels really good to not feel

827
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,500
like I'm alone. 
Sometimes I'm like I don't even 

828
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:43,300
know with certain things if I 
believe this but I'm like 

829
00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:45,500
looking into it. 
And it's really interesting and 

830
00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:48,000
it's entertaining and it's 
strange and it's fun. 

831
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:52,100
But like yeah, man for me About 
the community. 

832
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:56,100
It's all about making these 
genuine connections and like our

833
00:49:56,100 --> 00:50:00,400
friendship has come out of Doink
a mon, because I remember, I 

834
00:50:00,408 --> 00:50:03,800
forget, I think it was like one 
Sunday, you messaged me and I 

835
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,500
just was like, I was about to 
draw. 

836
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:07,700
I had like an hour drive. 
So I just randomly was like, I'm

837
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:09,800
gonna call, I'm going to call 
Rod, you had messaged me. 

838
00:50:09,808 --> 00:50:11,700
So I called you. 
And I don't know, we were on the

839
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:12,200
phone. 
For what? 

840
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,900
Like two hours. 
Yeah, that first conversation, 

841
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:20,600
that's what I love about doing 
the podcast is, developing these

842
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,700
friendships. 
Ships in this this community. 

843
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:25,800
I think it's amazing. 
I needed it, bro. 

844
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:30,000
I was in a place in my life 
because of just some really bad,

845
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,600
you know, relational stuff. 
We're and then that church hurt 

846
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,100
for years like I didn't really 
have any friends. 

847
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:41,500
And so now I'm like making these
like genuine connections and 

848
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:45,900
even though, you know, you're in
PA and I'm in Tennessee and Judd

849
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:49,500
is in Texas and tories in 
Kansas, and Mike is in, I think 

850
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:52,300
he's in Montana, you know, Knock
is in Canada, eh. 

851
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,100
Yeah, so yeah, bro. 
Just those, those connections in

852
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:01,600
those relationships, man, have 
been the most impactful for me. 

853
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,100
The other stuff is cool like 
getting to talk to like, you 

854
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,600
know, subject matter experts and
and have those conversations. 

855
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:10,900
That's definitely like, super 
fun. 

856
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:12,300
Getting to become friends with 
dr. 

857
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:17,000
Judd just amazing, you know. 
Wow, so for you, you've been 

858
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,300
going at this for a few years 
now. 

859
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,800
Has it been more than a few was 
a 4/5? 

860
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,400
It's four years from the mustard
seed for years. 

861
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:31,200
It's alive somehow. 
Yeah, man. 

862
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,100
So like what about you? 
What's had the most the biggest 

863
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,600
impact on you? 
These last all I'ma say these 

864
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,200
last four years but like within 
the last like year or so, what's

865
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,800
been the most impactful thing 
that you've experienced through 

866
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,700
doing your show? 
So, one of the most impactful 

867
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:51,300
things is, I've gotten a couple 
messages and emails from other 

868
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:56,500
believers out there. 
I knew the moment I read, what 

869
00:51:56,500 --> 00:52:00,300
they had sent me that I had been
in that exact position before 

870
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:07,300
alone, broken suicidal ideations
dealing with PTSD, just 

871
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:11,300
literally feeling the weight of 
rejection from from the world 

872
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,600
and not knowing my place, but 
yet. 

873
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,800
Knowing, there's something so 
much more and that the 

874
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,900
anticipation for just the next 
chapter of life to open up. 

875
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:25,900
It's like you keep hanging on 
your, like, I don't want to 

876
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:27,700
leave, but I want to leave so 
bad. 

877
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:31,900
This place is so, tough is so 
hard and I've gotten messages 

878
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:35,000
from people, and I would just 
start reading it and I would 

879
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,800
just start to drop a tear and 
I'd be so humble, because I 

880
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:47,700
know, I know I was in that 
position before. to realize that

881
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:52,400
God had taken me from such a 
broken place and was somehow 

882
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:58,100
allowing me to be a magnet for 
other people like that and to 

883
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:03,100
give them hope because of the 
hope that I have in Christ, it 

884
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:08,500
like blew my mind dude, like 
crush me well, Well, that's why 

885
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:11,400
I'm doing this. 
I mean, you know, I say yeah, 

886
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,000
I'm capturing the journey, I am 
capturing the growth. 

887
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,400
It's almost like a really long 
audio documentary of just things

888
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,900
that I'm wondering and asking, I
mean, it's not, it's just like, 

889
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:25,200
you know, climactic 0 points, of
conversations, and friendships 

890
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,900
and adventure of all this cool 
stuff that I think is in the 

891
00:53:28,900 --> 00:53:30,500
Bible. 
I'm not ashamed of the Bible. 

892
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:37,800
But realizing that God had 
switched the tables and then was

893
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,500
using me to reach other people 
that were devastated were alone 

894
00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:46,300
or just didn't know what to do. 
They listened. 

895
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:49,700
And they just said, I feel like 
there's something deeper and, 

896
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,700
you know, there's stuff that you
talked about that, I just 

897
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,000
haven't heard anywhere else. 
It made me realize that that's 

898
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:04,100
who God is after The lost the 
broken, the sick, the rejected, 

899
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,500
the ones who nobody knows, you 
know, that's who I'm speaking 

900
00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:11,200
for me. 
I know I edit my take my time 

901
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,700
editing, people are was like man
so keep forever. 

902
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:16,700
She really said I was in, I'm 
like, I'm learning my craft as I

903
00:54:16,707 --> 00:54:19,800
go. 
Autodidact there, Gilbert told 

904
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,600
me self-taught and all this 
stuff. 

905
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,200
Nobody just teach me. 
So I take my time with the show 

906
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,700
and I edit and and I care about 
the Bible and, you know, some of

907
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:30,600
the topics I try to bring up. 
I don't always We have the best 

908
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,100
answers or know the context, but
I'm doing it because I believe 

909
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:37,500
every episode has there 
something in there? 

910
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:40,500
There's a nugget in there, a 
reminder encouragement, 

911
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:45,400
edification eye-openers that 
somebody out there is going to 

912
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,600
here and if it helps just one 
person, That's enough of a 

913
00:54:49,607 --> 00:54:55,400
reason for me to stay in it. 
Yeah yeah I mean I got to say I 

914
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,400
love the thing I love about your
show is again the authenticity. 

915
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:05,700
You're just you're real, you're 
genuine and I love feeling like 

916
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,700
I'm going on this journey with 
you list with every episode that

917
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:12,300
I listen to. 
I'm still working through the 

918
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:14,500
Mike Davis episode. 
I think about I'm a little over 

919
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:17,800
halfway through or so, man. 
Incredible, everything, 

920
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,100
incredible. 
I love it, bro. 

921
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,500
As listeners. 
You guys are incredible because 

922
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,500
we all have a story and I've had
some of you guys reach out to me

923
00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:31,200
and I've actually scheduled a 
couple interviews for towards 

924
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,700
the end of summer right around 
the corner. 

925
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:36,500
Even so that some you guys can 
share your testimonies and 

926
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:41,100
stories which is heartfelt for 
me and Chris, you're awesome. 

927
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,000
It seems people like you coming 
up and starting a show and then 

928
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,600
collaborating and just the 
humility to say I'm willing to 

929
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,700
connect and there aren't fans. 
There's just other family 

930
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:56,500
members and we're trying to find
out how we can say hello and how

931
00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:57,900
we can hang our hat, he got 
together. 

932
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:00,200
And and that's important for me 
to. 

933
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,800
It's a very humbling and I 
accept your kind words, man. 

934
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,200
And I just am thankful thankful 
for our friendship. 

935
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,700
Thankful for this episode right 
here, I know God's word never 

936
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:16,100
returns void. 
The days are drawing dark in the

937
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:20,500
Light of Christ is is shining 
through those who who trust him.

938
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:23,800
And I just want to encourage the
listeners and everybody just 

939
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,700
just keep us in prayer. 
No. 

940
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:30,400
Pray for crisp rice over at the 
camp, Herman podcast, the whole 

941
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,900
crew. 
You know, keep me in prayer. 

942
00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:35,600
Over here, we're one, big 
family, keep all of us in 

943
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,200
prayer. 
We need the encouragement. 

944
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,700
Go like share, subscribe to his 
show. 

945
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,900
Support this podcast. 
If you guys want to give a 

946
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:47,300
dollar a month, five dollars a 
month, Help Me Grow this 

947
00:56:47,300 --> 00:56:51,000
ministry. 
Humble posted ready and willing?

948
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,200
Because I know that God is going
to continue to equip us with 

949
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,800
more people, more gift, more 
protection. 

950
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,100
More anointing, because we are 
not called to hide from the 

951
00:57:02,107 --> 00:57:05,100
darkness were called to expose 
it in advance against it. 

952
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:08,500
Taking every thought captive to 
Christ. 

953
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:14,300
So Chris, my last question will 
be if you had one last message 

954
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:17,300
to share with the body of 
Christ, what would it be? 

955
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,200
Hmm, I just want to encourage 
everybody Fellowship. 

956
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,400
Don't try to go it alone and 
whatever you're doing in your 

957
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,000
life. 
I know it can be hard in 

958
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,100
different seasons of life, but I
just want to encourage 

959
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:31,900
everybody. 
If you don't have a community at

960
00:57:31,900 --> 00:57:34,200
the very least, fine like 
something, maybe some sort of 

961
00:57:34,207 --> 00:57:38,000
like online community but as far
as like church, family finds 

962
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,000
something, find a Bible study, 
to go to even just fine one 

963
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:46,200
brother or sister to connect 
with ask the Lord to put one 

964
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,400
person or community. 
Your path, ask him and he will 

965
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,500
do it communities. 
Just so important. 

966
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,900
The enemy loves nothing more 
than to get us isolated and 

967
00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:00,700
alone because that's where he 
can really just go to work. 

968
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,200
Because when we're isolated and 
were alone kind of out were 

969
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,300
exposed, we're not under a 
covering or protection that we 

970
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:11,100
have when we're apart of a 
fellowship, even if it's just 

971
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:14,300
the fellowship with one or two 
other believers. 

972
00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:17,900
So that's that's, that's my 
message get in. 

973
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:20,300
Community. 
Even if it's a very small one, 

974
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:26,200
get that encouragement and that 
is an epic truthful. 

975
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:30,800
Message that holds weight and 
holds power because God wants 

976
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,000
the brothers coming together. 
Dwelling in unity having one 

977
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,500
likeness of mind. 
There's one Spirit one truth and

978
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:42,200
one baptism you guys but a 
diversity of gifts, bro. 

979
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,700
Iron sharpens iron. 
So one man, sharpens. 

980
00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:49,000
Another, if you're alone, you 
are dull and What is the one 

981
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,900
Rusty? 
Yeah, exactly. 

982
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:56,600
We want to be sharp and just 
cutting the enemy down us and we

983
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,300
can only do that together for 
that, man. 

984
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:01,000
That it was great, man. 
I loved it. 

985
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,400
I appreciate you inviting me on.
I know you guys are doing tons 

986
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,200
of documentaries and covering 
some awesome stuff and, and 

987
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,300
hopefully, we'll get to a point 
in time where some weird stuff 

988
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:12,700
for a. 
It could be covered. 

989
00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:14,400
Maybe enough that I could be 
here. 

990
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:17,900
Yeah, dude. 
Help me sick, Bro. 

991
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:22,000
Oh absolutely remember life is 
temporary. 

992
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,800
So keep your eyes on Christ and 
keep that light lit up keep oil 

993
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,000
in your lamp. 
Coming to you from Southeastern 

994
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,900
Pennsylvania, God Bless America.
Goodbye. 

995
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:56,500
In the Beast with his gone with 
a voice that sounded like 

996
00:59:56,500 --> 01:00:04,500
thunder. 
Walking on the street of goes, 

997
01:00:05,500 --> 01:00:11,400
here's a thing. 
He's like like me. 

998
01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:21,800
Upon his throne has 10,000 
pounds. 

999
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:32,600
Ten thousand saying we found, 
maybe Glory Glory. 

1000
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:49,600
We pray. 
Crazed Jesus, please don't. 

1001
01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:09,300
In that see CD, there's a river 
flowing from God's holy Throne, 

1002
01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:19,900
where the tree of life is 
blooming, where the hell has not

1003
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:32,500
been no more lives in that. 
Write CD date will have to flee 

1004
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:37,200
away. 
No more sin sickness. 

1005
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:47,900
No more heartaches here that 
lame the perfect day Glory. 

1006
01:01:47,900 --> 01:02:03,800
Glory we have praise the Lord. 
Praise the name of Jesus. 

1007
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:16,400
Our blessed. 
There's a take able in that 

1008
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:28,600
country City, we at the site of 
old with a truck, Who's for me 

1009
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:44,600
handy to never see her anymore. 
I'm going home to the lake. 

1010
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:53,900
So bright to walk the streets of
Jesus. 

1011
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:11,500
Glory Glory? 
We have praised forever. 

1012
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:20,100
Praise the Holy Name of Jesus. 
Please don't. 

1013
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,900
Is bless the Lord. 
Is bless the Lord.