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Hello folks, this is Princess. 
You are listening to the 

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Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
Thanks for listening. 

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Don't forget to share with your 
friends. 

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That's tough. 
We're in a very tough spot. 

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I think that what we're doing 
right now is a great benefit and

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virtue because it's an end 
around between this whole 

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corrupt informational system, 
media system. 

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We claim to believe in a God who
spoke the universe into 

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existence. 
And literally raised himself 

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from the dead. 
And yet we are not going to 

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believe that anything else 
exists in the spirit realm, even

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though his word tells us that 
they do. 

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Their bodies weren't permitted 
to go to sleep like humans do, 

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and they weren't permitted to go
to heaven. 

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So they wander the earth. 
You know, I've seen the eyes 

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turn black to unknown tongues 
being spoken. 

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These giants would love way up 
in the highland, the young 

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Braves, the young men would hide
them in the trees and wait for 

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one of these 12 footers to come 
walking down the path and they 

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would jump on them and kill 
them, drag them back to the 

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village, and the village would 
feast on the body freedom. 

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Then people start to get 
weapons, they start to get 

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armor, they start to build 
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They start to fortify their 
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Now God looks. 
Down and there's violence 

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everywhere. 
The battle, this war that we are

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at, is not against each other. 
It's against these 

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principalities and these rulers 
and these archons in the high 

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places. 
It's. 

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Really worthwhile to read the 
Bible yourself. 

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Fear is one of the primary 
drivers of mind control because 

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we have to take every thought 
captive and resist fear. 

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You're going to have a testimony
that is a justice case against 

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the Kingdom of Darkness. 
Hello, everybody. 

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This is Carly Tebbs coming to 
you on behalf of Rodney. 

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Sadly, his mic broke and he 
needs a new one. 

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And to get a new one, he needs 
your help. 

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So in the show notes, you'll see
links to his Ben MO PayPal and 

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Cash App. 
It would be so amazing if you 

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would help him out this time. 
You are blessed to be a 

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blessing. 
And in the meantime, I'll be 

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doing his introduction. 
So today we are joined by Doctor

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Rodich and Rod and Doctor Rodich
get into a wonderful revelatory 

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conversation around frequency. 
What is sonship? 

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Healing for the body, mind, and 
soul. 

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Like two brothers sitting in the
presence of the Lord, their 

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conversation will edify, 
clarify, give you direction and 

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hope. 
The word of the Lord is so 

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strong and rich in this episode.
I would just implore you to sit 

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back, relax, and listen to the 
word of the Lord as it comes 

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forth through these men of God. 
So thank you so much for 

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listening to the Millennial 
Mustard Seed podcast. 

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Have a beautiful day. 
OK, well, I'm Doctor Robert 

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Rodich and I live in the very 
southern tip of Alabama, and I'm

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very excited to be on the 
Millennial Mustard Seed today. 

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Doctor Roberts, it's always a 
pleasure and honor and an eye 

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opener to have you here on the 
podcast with me, man, Thanks for

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being here. 
Thank you, glad to be back. 

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It's been a little while, but 
I've always enjoyed hanging out 

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with you. 
We've laid down quite a 

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foundation of past episodes, 
diving into some deep, necessary

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topics. 
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responses and to help people 
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really going on and who we are. 
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thought I'd get you caught up 
because obviously my book moving

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towards Sonship is is really 
been a blessing to a lot of 

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people. 
And and those of those of your 

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listeners who've heard me before
know that I'm just, you know, 

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I'm kind of like the the nuts 
and bolts guy, you know, I mean,

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I'm kind of like the guy that 
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stuff like that. 
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right off the bat, you know, 
these big thoughts and stuff 

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like that. 
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might think, OK, if I did it 
this way, I could mow the lawn 5

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minutes quicker or something 
like that, you know, but that's,

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that's about as deep as I get. 
And so the Lord dumps all this 

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incredible stuff on me And, and,
you know, we're, we're moving 

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and we're trying to walk as Suns
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every level. 
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to be. 
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series back in school where it 
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Algebra for dummies, which I was
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at algebra, even though I was 
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And so I thought, Lord, can you 
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sonship? 
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And, and, and so it doesn't mean
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It just means the Cliff Notes 
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overview of what's going on. 
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this thing is so much bigger and
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different than what we've ever 
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The the more I grow in this 
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realized that I know and that I 
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us, even as believers through 
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closely aligned with the tree of
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not the tree of life. 
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that to be critical or negative.
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has been dictating so much stuff
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living outside of that. 
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book, obviously. 
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brief with this, but, you know, 
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though, you know, I could test 
my wife because, you know, I do 

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nutritional work UPS on people 
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And I've been very successful at
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levels. 
But my wife had something called

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atrial fibrillation. 
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get activated with electricity 
in areas of your heart, it's 

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pretty hard to deal with that. 
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you know, I can't go in and 
shoot some scope up in her heart

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and, you know, ZAP the little 
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But maybe I could come up with 
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electromagnetic frequencies 
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electromagnetic frequencies were
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heart arrhythmias. 
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He showed me how to do it. 
And then I'm standing at my 

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workbench and he says, well, 
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gemstones and crystals, if I 
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to use? 
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that in this space that I just 
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And I said, I don't know, but I 
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The first thing that happened 
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three times a week. 
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medallion, she didn't have it 
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finally went in and had her 
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successful. 
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that if that if it's being 
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frequencies, that putting just 
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that gives us very subtle 
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electromagnetic frequencies and,
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into good things. 
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actually changed in a good way 
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to wear in the evening so that 
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and rest a little bit. 
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OK, Well, then she challenged me
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all this gemstone stuff. 
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can make the biblical ephod, but
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plate, you know, that the high 
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value that would have. 
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some domino molds because they 
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and I came up with an ephod. 
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testimonials of people that are,
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are just engaging heaven and 
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and hearing things that they 
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Well, then we got the Mazzaroth,
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biblical way of God. 
Having everything written in the

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stars has absolutely nothing to 
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The way that the New Agers and 
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there's people that are doing 
governmental work when they wear

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these. 
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last, Rod, I only have those 
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Well now we've got 9 engagement 
medallions that are that are 

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topics like engaging the fire of
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We've got one for the quantum 
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We've got one that engages light
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had Dan Duvall on the program, 
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And so we've got we've got 
quantum emotional, which ties us

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directly into the father's 
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And we've even got one that if 
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doing, they can engage 3D 
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I mean just rewriting everything
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reflecting what heaven wants. 
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these last several months. 
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because I sit around and just 
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I'm out there at my workbench 
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Spirit just starts moving on me.
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he had me make the 3D reality 
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not even in Clayton is is far 
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into the future and stuff. 
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a month later, this gal and I 
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So that that kind of catches me 
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what I've been doing, you know, 
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anybody on your show? 
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working with Transdimensional 
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encounters. 
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the veil. 
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talked about even the demand 
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industry for music. 
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commenting on, just let me come 
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So we had talked about like the 
heavenly tesseract, right? 

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prayer, prayer wise, almost like
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Like what's really are we 
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We know there's power of life 
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lot of us are learning the hard 
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manner. 
And something that I think about

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is all of these poisonings that 
are calcifying the pineal gland,

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and that is a part of our 
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And a lot of people, I'm just 
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We talked about this for over 
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You know, some people say, oh, 
that's a new age Rod, you've 

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gone too far. 
And I'm going, no, we actually 

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have to have a Berean mindset 
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wonderfully and fearfully 
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So we have a pineal gland and 
it's calcified through a lot of 

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these poisonings. 
So in a nutshell, I see like a 

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lot of us are dealing with the 
repercussions of growing up in 

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this, this lifestyle, this 
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generations before us didn't 
have engagement, they didn't 

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have revelation or the spirit 
wasn't being poured out on all 

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flesh. 
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And so now we're learning how a 
frequency weapon is being used 

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against us. 
That's clear. 

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I've read patents on the podcast
already. 

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Or it's not even, it's not even 
conspiracy theory. 

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You can go read verbatim like 
this technology's been patent 

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through the military and how 
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So I don't think it's out of the
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I think it's actually in the 
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how these things are meant to be
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You shipped me a few of them, 

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right? 
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I'm going, hey, I can't sleep 
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And I'm like, did I get them 
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Right. 
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starts to get very interesting, 
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as an ambassador. 
I do not represent this country.

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I represent the eternal Kingdom.
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with a readiness of mind. 
So I find this to be fascinating

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because it fits in the word of 
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But I tread carefully. 
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continue on a bit of testimony, 
like what kind of feedback are 

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you getting from people? 
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9 new medallions and really the 
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interest, Doc, is going to be 
the one that changes 3D reality.

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I think that's quite 
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Well, one of the things that 
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have to say this, I didn't know 
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now. 
I was, you know, having been a 

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pastor for over 30 years, I knew
every Scripture about, you know,

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the, the city Foursquare and, 
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out of gemstones and Pearl and 
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So I mean, there's like 
Scripture is just full of things

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that refer to precious things, 
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in gold and, you know, the ephod
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and engage with the Umim and 
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that our personal spirit rod is 
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it needs to hear. 
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the soul, which acts very often 
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Now, the thing about our body is
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energy field with its own mind, 
will and emotions that are not 

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even our brain. 
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pineal gland is if it's not 
functioning as something comes 

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from our spirit through our soul
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able to take all of that 
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such a way that our natural 
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then our natural mind can 
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And if the pineal gland is out 
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spirit realm, and I think this 
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number, we're receiving about 2 
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second. 
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natural mind, it's about 200 
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Well, what happened to all those
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Fascinating. 
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that when you have formulas, see
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whether it's the quantum 
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whether it's engaging the holy 
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medallions have formulas. 
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with the same particular 
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sizes, and in and of themselves 
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purposing and intending creates 
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it basically just lights those 
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signal boost. 
Does that make sense? 

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Absolutely, yeah. 
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And we need that. 
We need it with information 

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coming in for greater clarity, 
but we also need to see that 

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we're we have signals that go 
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And if you think, if you think 
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personally because you know me 
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ladies can always tell things 
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You're into the hair? 
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Their central nervous system is 
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typically. 
There's the hair, but they, you 

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know, they're, they're kind of 
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pineal, through intuition. 
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yeah, I mean, there's a couple 
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OK, so I'm glad that they have 
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of that. 
But when I'm wearing a proper 

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gemstone medallion that has a 
specific topic and I engage that

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topic, it's like all the sudden 
my ears open up and my my spirit

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begins resonating and start kind
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Woo woo woo. 
Everything changes and I didn't 

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even know if such things could 
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And it's really interesting 
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mine named Jeremy Friedman from 
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seer. 
He sees things. 

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You know, he's the kind of guy. 
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was, you know, walking along the
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then Moses was with him. 
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know, I don't ever get to see 
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This guy, I promise you, is 
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He's seeing Enoch, he's seeing 
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happening, right? 
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that says that from the Lord 
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says that crystals and gemstones
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govern infrastructure and even 
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Well, if we're supposed to be 
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can't even think about planet 
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we need to get with the program.
What do you think? 

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My, my example's going to be 
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and rightfully dividing it, not 
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Giving an answer in season out 
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So when I look at David with the
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ephod, it literally inquires of 
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crying out. 
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faithful remnant, and that's his
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Well, God is the same yesterday,
today, and tomorrow. 

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Now Christ rose from the dead. 
The Messiah has come in the 

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flesh. 
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what does he, what does he even 
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I came not to abolish the law, 
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And Hebrew poetry or Hebrew 
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things. 
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circumpunced. 
It's, it's something that 

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happens again and again. 
That's why we see so many 

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foreshadowings of Christ. 
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greater things you will do than 
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together. 
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people are terrified to consider
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them. 
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that God is using an ephod for a
man named David who has an 

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eternal throne and David had a 
heart after God himself, and 

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that was to literally make a 
government and Eklesia based 

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decision of a ruling member in 
his eternal existence. 

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That's not out of the question 
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Now, if pastors favor that idea 
because of denominational 

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preference, well then I would 
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the word of God. 
Now treading lightly because 

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there's a lot of presuppositions
and there's a lot of we're 

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figuring this out as we go, but 
the Spirit shall lead us into 

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all truth or reveal and lead us 
in all the truth. 

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So this is not scary or fringe 
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question. 
This is actually what I feel is,

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is my calling is to be an 
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and not bow down to the limited 
ideas of people that do not have

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the revelation. 
So I'm right there with you. 

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It's very fascinating. 
Let me let me kind of share it 

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another way. 
My, my grandparents on my dad's 

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side came from what used to be 
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Well, it really was before it 
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it's called Serbia, Croatia, 
Bosnia, that that whole area 

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when I was a kid, I was 
fascinated with because my 

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grandparents still spoke the 
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And I was fascinated and I would
go to the library because, you 

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know, we, that's what we had in 
those days was libraries read 

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about all the different cities 
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streets in the island of 
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from, all those kinds of things.
But I had never been there. 

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Now, because I'd never been 
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there. 
Are you are you following with 

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me? 
Yes. 

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So, so finally, finally, I know 
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But, but finally, the year I 
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won't tell you when 'cause then 
everybody will know how ancient 

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I really AM. 
We went there, my whole family, 

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my dad, my mom and my three 
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And of course, the the area is 
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done so much work on the 
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But you know, they were still 
having carts with the horses 

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drawing them in the villages 
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And so if I can, and then I came
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hung out with some of my 
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And of course, they'd never been
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But because I went there and saw
it, they could never say to me 

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it's not real. 
So when somebody has an 

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experience where somebody from 
the cloud of witnesses comes and

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visits or they see an Angel or 
they even see a demon, that 

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person saw that. 
It's not just their imagination.

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What's happening is the veil is 
getting thinner and thinner 

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because we're drawing close to 
the end times and we're going to

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be having more interaction and 
we're understanding more about 

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the way God's infrastructure has
always worked. 

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But now it's time for everything
that Daniel was told to, you 

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know, seal that up until the end
times. 

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Daniel, it's too early. 
Let's not let it out yet. 

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Now is the time to let it out. 
And God's going to show us how 

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everything really works. 
And so we're in the process of 

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discovery. 
We're in the process of learning

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line upon line. 
And the next thing that I'm 

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working on is you've got a lot 
of people out there that, OK, 

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they're getting strong in the 
spirit. 

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You know, they're finally 
getting their soul not to be the

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gatekeeper and letting things 
through to their body. 

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But a lot of people are still 
having problems with the body. 

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And whether it's physical 
healing, whether it's just the 

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the energy that is involved that
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sometimes too much for people, 
which is why people fall down in

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church. 
And so one of the things I'm 

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looking into is something called
Hydro acoustics. 

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Now, certainly at some point in 
your life you've had an 

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experience where you heard a 
beautiful song and it just gave 

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you goosebumps or somebody was 
telling a story and it just ran 

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sugars up your back. 
Well, that's the physical 

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manifestation of vibration that 
is taking place in our cells and

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it's called Hydro Acoustics. 
Well, even our cells are 

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supposed to be vibrating at a 
much different and higher 

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frequency and vibrating with 
heaven in heaven and at the same

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frequency rate of Christ Jesus 
in us as the hope of glory. 

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And so I'm, I don't have the, 
the full scope of this yet and 

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it may end up even being my next
book. 

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But there are things out there 
that the Lord is starting to 

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show us that not only do we need
to keep an open mind, we need to

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see that it is part of the 
infrastructure of everything 

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that Kingdom people are supposed
to be doing. 

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I mean, six years ago I thought 
enter, you know, it, you know, 

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enter is, you know, courts with 
praise and Thanksgiving and all 

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that stuff. 
I didn't realize that there were

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biblical courts that you can go 
to and have court cases done 

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well. 
All this stuff is changing. 

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Everything is opening up the way
it really is supposed to be. 

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And the crystals and the 
gemstones and things, when 

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they're done properly. 
And we learned that our 

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intention is very important. 
Just like when you pray, you 

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know you're not watching Star 
Wars. 

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When you're praying, you're 
focusing on the heart of the 

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Father, or you're talking to the
Lord Jesus, or you're being 

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moved by the Holy Spirit. 
These things are part of the way

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God designed everything to work.
Everything is supposed to 

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resonate back to the heart of 
the Father, and if there's a 

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weakness there, we're actually 
supposed to His sons and 

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daughters of the Kingdom go 
around and start restoring that.

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That's why creation is crying 
out and groaning for the 

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revelation of the sons of God 
because we are the ones that He 

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00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,200
has said, OK, you're my 
children, here's what you need 

449
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,120
to do. 
You need to go around and start 

450
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:54,400
restoring things. 
Don't worry about the enemy. 

451
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,160
He's going to do what He's going
to do. 

452
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,360
You be about the Father's 
business. 

453
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,440
Jesus established it. 
He anchored it in planet earth, 

454
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,560
both as the Son of God and Son 
of Man. 

455
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,960
And now He's made a way so that 
we can continue that and keep 

456
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:16,200
pressing in until we can say and
demonstrate greater things than 

457
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,520
thee. 
Shall ye do so? 

458
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,240
Those are the kinds of things 
that we're working on you. 

459
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,000
And I've looked into the pineal 
gland and, and all these other 

460
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,280
kinds of things. 
And yes, there's a lot stacked 

461
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,520
against us. 
But So what greater is he that 

462
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,440
is in us than he that is in the 
world? 

463
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,160
And we're starting to finally 
believe that, which is why I'm 

464
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,120
very excited. 
A very exciting time to be alive

465
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,800
and it resonates deeply with me 
where you mentioned a few 

466
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,160
minutes back about Daniel saying
seal up the words until the time

467
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,320
of the end and you know the 
scriptures tell us to preach the

468
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,760
good news the gospel to all 
creation. 

469
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,800
Thomas like there's this 
response well not almost it's 

470
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,920
it's verbatim. 
There's a responsibility for 

471
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,200
there to be a restoration that 
takes place according to the 

472
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,000
power that lives in us. 
If it be the same power that 

473
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,920
raised Christ from the dead. 
Yeah. 

474
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,200
This language is really been 
covered up and hidden within the

475
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,120
four walls. 
So these kind of conversations 

476
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:19,120
are more than necessary now. 
Fascinating. 

477
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:24,160
You're talking about, you know, 
this resident frequency and the 

478
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,120
recognition of sonship and 
dominion. 

479
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:30,720
All of it ties in and feeds to 
what we're called to creation. 

480
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,480
Cry literally crying out for the
sons of God to understand what 

481
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,680
our identity. 
What do you can you comment just

482
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,960
real quickly. 
I don't want to take you to a 

483
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,120
far off track, but Isaiah 60 we 
have Isaiah 60 arise and shine 

484
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,080
for the glory of the Lord has 
risen upon thee. 

485
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,720
Gross darkness shall cover the 
earth, but his glory has risen 

486
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,600
upon thee. 
And I've been kind of meditating

487
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,760
on this and just going, you 
know, Jesus ascends into the 

488
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,800
clouds. 
He's going to return the same 

489
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,400
way he left riding on the 
clouds. 

490
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,960
The glory of the Lord is is with
Yeshua. 

491
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,360
It's with Jesus himself and his 
glory to be risen upon us like I

492
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,280
I was just, you know, thinking, 
thinking out loud what I've been

493
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,480
internalizing and I'm going that
lines up with Isaiah 60 because 

494
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,040
the glory that's risen upon us 
is, is him our we are sons of 

495
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,200
the most high God. 
Our identity is is not in full 

496
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,720
effect of understanding or else 
we would we would be changing 

497
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,200
things quite quite honestly, but
we're getting there. 

498
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:36,160
I see it collectively, you know.
Let me let me share an 

499
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,040
engagement that a dear friend of
ours had and her name is 

500
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,560
Stephanie. 
And she was standing before a 

501
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,120
mirror and then the mirror 
cracked into, I don't know, 12 

502
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,760
or 13 different pieces. 
And the Holy Spirit was speaking

503
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,760
to her and said, well, what do 
you see? 

504
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Well, it obviously up front 
you're going to see, well, I see

505
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,920
a cracked mirror and I see 12 or
13 different forms of me because

506
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,720
you've been to the circus in 
different places and they have 

507
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,080
all those mirrors that distort 
everything, you know. 

508
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,360
But she saw 13 pieces of 
herself. 

509
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,240
He said, So the Holy Spirit said
in the spirit realm, if I were 

510
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,400
to send you someplace where 
there need to be thirteen layers

511
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,200
of yourself, or could you in 
essence stand in front of 

512
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,640
something like this as a mirror 
and go in 13 different places, 

513
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,440
even though your physical body 
would still be where you're at, 

514
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,480
you could send your essence into
13 different places. 

515
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,880
Well, the Lord Jesus himself, 
because I have I, I asked him 

516
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,120
one time. 
I said, Lord, you remember, I'm 

517
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,840
a knower. 
So I didn't see him walk in the 

518
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,000
room, you know, like Kenneth 
Hagin and some of these other 

519
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,280
guys did. 
But he's talks to me and I and I

520
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,640
listen and I, you know, we have 
a conversation. 

521
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,320
And I said, how can you be 
everywhere at once? 

522
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,840
And that's basically what he 
told me is, is that his, he has 

523
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,480
a physical presence at the right
hand of the Father, but because 

524
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,960
of the way heaven works, he can 
physically be in innumerable 

525
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,960
places at the same time. 
Well, we are waiting for Jesus 

526
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,720
to physically come back to set 
up his throne in Jerusalem and 

527
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,920
to, you know, rule and reign 
during the Millennium and then 

528
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,080
for eternity as apparently 
planet Earth being the epicenter

529
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,720
of a lot of things that are 
going on. 

530
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:31,320
But given that mirror 
illustration, he is in US right 

531
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,600
now for everyone that's been 
born from above. 

532
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,600
The question is, are we putting 
restraints on him or are we 

533
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,720
letting him fully project 
himself through us while we 

534
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,080
become more of who we are at the
same time? 

535
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,560
See, that's we have been dumbed 
down, Rod, basically. 

536
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,440
And if you really look at the 
way that things have developed 

537
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,240
in the last 6000 years of 
mankind, every time that there 

538
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,640
would be any kind of a real move
of God, the enemy would try to 

539
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,640
always deflect things and send 
people chasing down rabbit 

540
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,440
trails in the wrong direction. 
Because if people ever really 

541
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,760
knew how things worked, they 
wouldn't have behaved that way. 

542
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,960
How did Enoch know where the 
that he had Nephilim say, Hey, 

543
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,320
you know, I know we're not 
supposed to be here, but can you

544
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,920
go before God and, and ask him 
if maybe there's a, a way around

545
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,680
all of this? 
We don't want to die. 

546
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,280
And how did he know where to 
walk through and just walk right

547
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,600
into heaven? 
And finally, he just said, OK, 

548
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,960
I'm staying. 
Well, what did he see that we're

549
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:54,920
not seeing that we may see soon?
We have to enlarge our thinking.

550
00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,080
We have to realize that that we 
are sons and daughters of the 

551
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,240
Most High and that we all have 
assignments. 

552
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,160
You and I've been talking for a 
while now about the invisible 

553
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,360
stuff. 
You know, I use Colossians 116 

554
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,320
and 17. 
For in Him all things were 

555
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,200
created. 
Things in heaven and on earth, 

556
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,880
visible and invisible, whether 
Thrones are powers or rulers are

557
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040
authority. 
All things have been created 

558
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:32,560
through Him and for Him. 
He is before all things and in 

559
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:38,920
Him all things hold together. 
You could spend a lifetime, and 

560
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,600
so could I. 
Just looking at that one really 

561
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,000
2 verses. 
I mean, it's absolutely 

562
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,760
incredible. 
But there's one thing that we've

563
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,680
got to establish upfront as 
believers. 

564
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,760
This has never been about us. 
It's always been about Him, 

565
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,880
and I hope that when people hear
this, they can say Amen to that 

566
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,320
because that's where we get into
trouble. 

567
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,600
If we realize it's about him 
that that he did everything that

568
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:31,679
he did to restore us back to 
family, then what's the rest of 

569
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,000
it? 
You see, in Genesis Three, we 

570
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,840
read about the fall, but Jesus 
brought full restoration of His 

571
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,080
name and image within us back 
into reality because it's in Him

572
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,440
that we live, in Him that we 
move, and in Him that we have 

573
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,000
our being. 
Now that's what most Christians 

574
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,960
will agree on. 
OK, I'm restored back to family.

575
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,960
And I think you and I have 
talked about this a little bit 

576
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,840
before, Rod, but does it really 
make sense to anybody's logical 

577
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,760
mind, this story that we always 
hear ministered from the pulpit,

578
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,640
that God was lonely, so he 
created man and sent man to 

579
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,040
earth. 
And then Adam and Eve blew it. 

580
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,000
And, and then, and then, you 
know that then he sent his son 

581
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:23,760
just so he could bring us back. 
Well, we started out in heaven. 

582
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,440
Why did we even come if he's 
lonely? 

583
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,080
He should have just kept us 
there. 

584
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:35,280
Well, that's not it at all. 
He created beings very closely 

585
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,360
like himself because that's what
in his image means, so that we 

586
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,440
could be Co creators on and 
partakers of his nature. 

587
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,960
But that doesn't mean we become 
little gods. 

588
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,840
But we're still his children. 
And when I, when my kids were 

589
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,040
home and I told him to take out 
the trash or mow the lawn, they 

590
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,400
obeyed and they did what they 
were supposed to do. 

591
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,440
That's what families do. 
But most of us stop there. 

592
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,080
OK, I've got my ticket punched 
now. 

593
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,240
I'll go to church a couple of 
times a week. 

594
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,320
I'll just do the things that I 
do, and then I'll die and I'll 

595
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,560
go to heaven. 
Well, what about the other two 

596
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,520
parts? 
Genesis 6/1 through four, we see

597
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,920
the corruption of the bloodline 
of mankind. 

598
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,800
Well, why Our enemy is 
attempting to steal our 

599
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,600
assignment or authority in the 
image of humanity. 

600
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,360
Now we were created in his 
image. 

601
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,480
We've got an enemy that got 
within eight people of 

602
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:43,400
completely destroying all of 
humanity trying to steal our 

603
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:49,360
image so that he doesn't have 
to, you know, spend eternity. 

604
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,840
You know, he thought, if, OK, if
I steal that image, God's not 

605
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,240
going to destroy me. 
Well, obviously God would still 

606
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:00,000
destroy him anyway. 
So that's the second part. 

607
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,840
But then in Deuteronomy 3289, we
see that there is also a charge 

608
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,680
for restoration of nations. 
This is why we accepted our 

609
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,760
assignment to come here. 
So while you've got the church 

610
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,280
doing whatever the church does 
for the most part, you know, 

611
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,240
setting up all their little 
clubs and doing all the stuff 

612
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:25,400
that they're doing, yeah, we 
need the restoration. 

613
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,640
We need salvation. 
Can't do anything without that. 

614
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,720
But what are we doing to secure 
our bloodline? 

615
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,040
And you say, well, what are you,
what are you talking about? 

616
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,440
Well, you know about 
transhumanism. 

617
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,360
Why is there even such a thing 
as transhumanism? 

618
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,360
Because they're trying to 
eliminate us. 

619
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,560
We're a problem to the enemy's 
camp because if if we see what 

620
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,960
we're supposed to be doing is 
restoration. 

621
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:01,240
So then here's what happens from
the Tower of Babel to the 

622
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,080
ancient Egyptians all the way 
through the to the Masonic 

623
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,320
orders. 
Hey, let's just throw a bunch of

624
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,680
false stuff into Christianity. 
Let's let's get him to focus on 

625
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,440
the soon coming of Jesus, but 
from this angle that they think 

626
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,800
he's coming any minute and they 
won't stay busy and they won't 

627
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,920
start doing restorative things 
just like the Bible tells them 

628
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,280
to do. 
Well, I just ruffled a lot of 

629
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,240
feathers, brother, and I'm sure 
you're aware of that because 

630
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,320
they're, oh, we need to expect 
the imminent return of the Lord.

631
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,160
Well, sure, he can come back 
anytime the father says, son, 

632
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,720
now is the time. 
But until then, are we supposed 

633
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,880
to stay busy or not? 
Yeah, I mean occupy until his 

634
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,160
return. 
Now occupation is not twiddling 

635
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,720
of thumb. 
It actually means doing the very

636
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:54,400
likeness that Jesus taught, 
right? 

637
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,000
Washing each other's feet, 
preaching the gospel, subduing 

638
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,360
the earth, all the things that 
are in the scriptures. 

639
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,960
So I see occupation as literally
the embodiment of being led by 

640
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,320
the Spirit of God. 
And and that can definitely not 

641
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,840
look like 4 walls gatherings, at
least not in my experience. 

642
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,240
Well, I mean, it's nice to have 
those so I'm not anti church and

643
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,280
and look, listen, we need the 
fellowship. 

644
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,920
We really do. 
However, we've got to get over 

645
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,800
that. 
This is just about punching our 

646
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,920
ticket to heaven. 
We've already been there. 

647
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,360
We're from there. 
We came directly from inside the

648
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,680
father. 
He said I knew you before you 

649
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,560
were in your mother's womb. 
That's all of us. 

650
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,800
So why did we come here? 
Because he has put us in a Co 

651
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,040
creative assignment. 
And if we're supposed to Co 

652
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,840
create, what does that even 
mean? 

653
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,160
Restoration. 
Well, you know how to do some 

654
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,800
handy guy stuff, right? 
Don't you have to go to Lowe's 

655
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,120
and Home Depot and in the lumber
yard in order to get the 

656
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,080
materials that you need in order
to do a project of restoration? 

657
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,160
We haven't been left without 
tools. 

658
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:17,280
The problem is, if we limit 
ourselves to 3D Earth thinking, 

659
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:23,280
we will never see how to take 
supernatural resources and 

660
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,800
translate them so that they 
manifest into 3D Earth reality. 

661
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,960
We're supposed to be rewriting 
the code to Earth. 

662
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,920
We need to Start learning how to
do that. 

663
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,600
We need to start accepting. 
First of all, it all starts in 

664
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:47,320
one area. 
Once we're born again, and if 

665
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,280
and if anybody listening has 
never done this, you need to go 

666
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,360
sit right down inside of the 
father until his love saturates 

667
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,400
you to the point where your 
identity becomes solid in him 

668
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,520
and nothing can shake your 
world. 

669
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,160
And I mean nothing. 
Don't leave that place until you

670
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,000
know how loved and how special 
you are. 

671
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,960
Once you know that, then you can
start tackling the sonship 

672
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,840
stuff. 
You know, being a pastor for 30 

673
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,600
years, you know, I'd see people 
get saved. 

674
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,600
And if they had a really big 
testimony next week, they were 

675
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,040
out with their own tent revival,
you know, you know, it's being a

676
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,800
little bit crazy. 
But you know, we saw some 

677
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,320
situations like that. 
Where are they now? 

678
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,040
You've got to know who you are 
in the king. 

679
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:45,800
It's His image that when it 
merges with us, gives us access 

680
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,680
to things we never even dreamed 
existed. 

681
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,240
And it's time for this memory 
lapse that we inherited from 

682
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:57,160
Adam and Eve to start withering 
away. 

683
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,760
We need to know who we were. 
We need to accept who we are in 

684
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Christ Jesus and we need to 
press forward in who we are 

685
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,640
becoming and that as people that
are just going to change this 

686
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,880
world. 
We've seen enough of Christians 

687
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,120
falling. 
We've seen. 

688
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:17,160
Look what the church has been 
doing the last 2000 years. 

689
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,600
Come on, has it really worked 
all that well? 

690
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,840
Let us be honest, we're talking 
about ourselves here. 

691
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,480
Let's get back to when Jesus 
said in greater things than thee

692
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,560
shall ye do. 
And what about the part where it

693
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:39,080
says in the Bible, if Jesus did 
and taught so many things that 

694
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,880
if they were written down, the 
entire planet couldn't even hold

695
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,960
all the volumes? 
Wouldn't you like to know what's

696
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,360
in some of those books? 
Yeah, you can. 

697
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,720
Just a couple pages would be 
nice at this point. 

698
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,480
Wouldn't it be great? 
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 

699
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:58,720
Well, brother, I got to tell 
you, I, you know, sometimes you 

700
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:03,160
can, you, you can have secular 
things on television, almost be 

701
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,600
prophetic. 
The other day I was watching 

702
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,720
this thing and it caught my eye.
And it was kind of like a 

703
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,880
National Geographic thing. 
And this guy went all over the 

704
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,080
world and he was studying 
cultures to see where their 

705
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,720
origins came from. 
And literally from Polynesia to 

706
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:24,440
South America to the, the, you 
know, Germanic areas to Siberia,

707
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:29,920
he made a shocking statement. 
He said they all trace their 

708
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,280
beginnings back to the tree of 
knowledge. 

709
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Isn't that strange? 
Not one time did he say the tree

710
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,440
of life. 
So that means that we live in an

711
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,680
environment where everything is 
foreign to the tree of life. 

712
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:57,280
We have been born from above. 
We have a whole new set of 

713
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,840
operational principles, and it's
time we not only learned what 

714
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:09,560
they are, but we started putting
them into effect because the 

715
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,440
entire planet has been operating
on pirated software since the 

716
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,680
fall of Adam and Eve, and it's 
time to get the real software 

717
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,120
back in place. 
So you talked about a step on 

718
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:29,000
for this is just going into the 
inner chamber with the father 

719
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,560
and knowing how much we're loved
being literally saturated in the

720
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,000
love. 
And I think that's such a 

721
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,520
critical step because literally 
I missed that. 

722
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,440
Like I, I had gotten the 
simplicity of the gospel. 

723
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,800
You know, I had, I've talked 
about some of these supernatural

724
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,560
things that happened over the 
course of my life when I was 

725
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,520
seven years old, you know, 
having that kind of out of body 

726
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,360
experience, looking at myself 
and being engulfed in light. 

727
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,840
But I, but I knew things that I 
obviously I can't remember, but 

728
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,320
in the moments it was like 
comforting, like, you know, but 

729
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,200
like, I feel like a lot of at 
least what I've experienced and 

730
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,200
watched and even participated 
in, in, in Churchianity is just 

731
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,880
the opposite of that. 
You know, it's there's the 

732
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,880
honeymoon phase, people call it 
when you come to the Lord. 

733
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,640
And it's just fascinating that 
really the whole time, the whole

734
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,560
thing is based on love. 
If you if you don't have love, 

735
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,960
none of the other things work. 
But how much more so does it 

736
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,600
work with love? 
And it's the love of the father.

737
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,600
He loved us 1st. 
And so I think that's such a 

738
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,240
critical step that really like 
just slowing down, like, No 

739
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:36,240
Fear, million messages of things
going on in the world today, but

740
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:39,320
slowing down and literally 
hammering that idea home. 

741
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,040
Yeah. 
Because there's plenty of other 

742
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,520
messages out there in the 
Airways that let's just say are 

743
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,720
good, but they're not always for
people that need to the restart,

744
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:52,320
the refresh as to the correct 
step. 

745
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,360
One is spending time with the 
father like that. 

746
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,000
That is so important, really. 
Well, let, let me share, you 

747
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,080
know, keep in mind, I've been a 
pastor, I've been an elder for, 

748
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:07,000
I mean, I've been walking this 
walk for 50 years now and I'll 

749
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:12,880
run into people. 
And now I know that it's, it's 

750
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,200
both spiritual discernment, but 
it's because people give off 

751
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:21,760
energy signals. 
And just like all I, I can hear 

752
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,600
anybody's voice and I can tell 
you stuff about people that, 

753
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:27,520
that, that is absolutely true 
because their voice is 

754
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,120
broadcasting. 
You can't hide it. 

755
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:36,800
So I start running into apostles
and prophets and, and I go up to

756
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,160
somebody and I say, have you 
spent time in the Chamber of the

757
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:46,400
Father's heart of love? 
And they'll look at you like, 

758
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:51,200
Oh, I know God loves me. 
Now they won't tell you this, 

759
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,480
but what they're really saying 
is I can't be the mighty third 

760
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:02,040
highest level apostle dude in 
profit of this and that and 

761
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,440
everything else. 
I'll lose all of that if I have 

762
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,360
to take a time out and go back. 
Well, no, they won't, because 

763
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:17,000
what's really happening is all 
of the insufficiencies are being

764
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,240
channelled through their offices
and they're actually putting out

765
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:26,840
mixture. 
Did I just say that? 

766
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,840
Wow. 
That's why we're in trouble. 

767
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:40,120
All of us need to at least once 
a week, just take a few hours 

768
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,440
and just say, honey, I got to be
by myself. 

769
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,480
And we don't even watch a ball 
game. 

770
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,320
I'm a big Green Bay Packer fan, 
and sorry to the Steelers and, 

771
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,640
you know, the Philadelphia fans 
and all that stuff. 

772
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,400
But I'd love to watch a Packer 
game every day of the week if I 

773
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,880
could. 
But once a week I just go and I 

774
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,720
just sit and I say, Lord, and 
here's what happens. 

775
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,840
The first thing is, is when you 
get into the center of the 

776
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:12,200
Father's heart, you see yourself
for what you really are and you 

777
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,160
see your insufficiencies. 
Now that no, most people don't 

778
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,000
want to go through that. 
But then there's a second step. 

779
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,040
The second step is as you see 
the Father for who He really is.

780
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,240
And then when you come out on 
the other side, you see how he 

781
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:33,920
wants you to be in, how he sees 
you. 

782
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,720
And then you and then you kind 
of stand in the middle and you 

783
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:39,320
go, OK, here's who I am on the 
left. 

784
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,200
That's who he says I am. 
I'm going to just throw that 

785
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,560
person on the left out. 
I'm going to the one on the 

786
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,600
right. 
But most people have never done 

787
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,920
that. 
And then we, we and we, you 

788
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,240
know, you need to go back and 
get your batteries recharged 

789
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,360
once in a while. 
And that's good. 

790
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,120
But what happens is, is it gets 
rid of all of the self. 

791
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,280
It gets rid of all of how, you 
know, you know, I wanna be 

792
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,120
loved. 
And then we have to draw it from

793
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,640
people. 
You know what? 

794
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,160
There's only one source of love 
that we should ever care about, 

795
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,000
and that's the one who we were 
in some time, just an idea in 

796
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,240
his mind. 
And then we became a physical 

797
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:20,320
spirit and he created each one 
of us. 

798
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,280
Maybe who even knows? 
Maybe in some little room 

799
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,120
somewhere. 
And he said, OK, today I'm going

800
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,920
to create Rod. 
And then he created you so 

801
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,680
special. 
And you might have been zipping 

802
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,880
around heaven as a spirit for a 
billion years, in earth years, 

803
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,800
who knows? 
But then you come to Earth with 

804
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,760
the inability to remember 
things, but it doesn't still 

805
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,040
change who you are. 
You're the the 3D, the 3D 

806
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,320
concept of planet Earth is 
blocking that. 

807
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,720
And so part of what we overcome 
in Christ Jesus is as he rises 

808
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:02,720
up with us, we start becoming in
touch of the person that was 

809
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:08,080
made from the very depths of 
God's heart, with his emotions, 

810
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,880
with his love, and with his 
power and his glory ability to 

811
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,760
flow through US. 
And that's really the bigger 

812
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:20,520
point of all of this, is it a 
person hasn't taken the time to 

813
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,760
do this, then they have the 
wrong image of themselves and 

814
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,200
they will only be putting 
mixture and frustration out. 

815
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,840
And that's why the church has 
been in trouble. 

816
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,240
Yeah, that resonates pretty 
deep. 

817
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:41,880
I know when you're saying, you 
know, completely just, it's 

818
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,440
broken a contrite spirit. 
Like when that happens with me, 

819
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,160
it nothing in this world 
matters. 

820
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,040
But I think I've had issues 
moving just like beyond that. 

821
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,000
Now there's times where like, I 
know I'm being recharged and I 

822
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,240
know that there's a connection, 
but it's it's funny. 

823
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,200
Yeah. 
I mean, this this whole entire 

824
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,960
life and this is what's going to
resonate with people that that 

825
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,440
are really striving and and 
chomping at the bit. 

826
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,960
Yeah, I need to wrestle into 
this and understand this the the

827
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,280
whole thing. 
You know, that we got the 

828
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,120
spiritual amnesia and then we're
taught to that we're just 

829
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,600
consumers. 
You're just consumer, right? 

830
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:24,800
And and we're in this revolving 
door where it's so many things 

831
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,440
are coming at you. 
There's so many passwords to 

832
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,960
remember. 
There's so many responsibilities

833
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,440
to do it. 
It's so designed to steal that 

834
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,240
first fruit. 
But you know, God does say he 

835
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:39,200
wants the first portion. 
You think of Cain and Abel, you 

836
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:43,120
know, Cain clearly is just, you 
know, grabbing some vegetables 

837
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,440
and bringing like, oh, snap, 
this is what's left after the 

838
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,600
market this weekend. 
But you know, Abel's heart is 

839
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,520
clearly like, hey, I've spent 
time and my desire is to bring 

840
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,480
you the first, right? 
And it's really that is one of 

841
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,000
the struggles that I personally 
face. 

842
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,080
And I know even if people don't 
want to be honest, they'll say, 

843
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,040
oh, I go to church. 
I'm not even talking on that 

844
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,400
level. 
We're so beyond that. 

845
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,760
Checking into the building now, 
we don't forsake the gathering, 

846
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,840
but where two or more gathered, 
he's present. 

847
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,280
So the gathering does not only 
take place where there's fifty 

848
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,680
people in the building. 
Not saying I forsake that 

849
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,800
either. 
I encourage that. 

850
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,160
But coming back to this reality 
that I've experienced the broken

851
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,000
and contrite spirit and I've 
rejected even everything in the 

852
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,720
room with me, like even just 
kind of feeling out of my skin 

853
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:31,680
in that kind of crying out to 
him. 

854
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,000
I've experienced that. 
But then it's really interesting

855
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,320
how you know you'll get the 
call. 

856
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,960
Hey, honey, I need you to run to
the store or you know, you'll 

857
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,840
get the phone call. 
Hey, we got to do an electrical 

858
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,880
job tomorrow. 
It's like always this this whole

859
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,240
entire world is charged with 
give me every second and every 

860
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,920
moment you have. 
And it is a step of faith some 

861
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,800
that I haven't taken many big 
steps in that direction. 

862
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,320
I'll just be transparent. 
But the challenge is there to go

863
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,360
deeper. 
And, and I'm not alone. 

864
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,320
That's that's why we do this 
doc. 

865
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,680
That's why we record these 
conversations because there's 

866
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,240
countless others out there that 
that are dropping a tear while 

867
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,480
listening to this. 
This is probably the most 

868
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,880
genuine thing I've heard in 
months. 

869
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,920
Well, I hope so. 
And and see, here's the here's 

870
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:22,720
the thing. 
If we allow our flesh and even 

871
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:29,040
our soul to continue the program
running in the background over 

872
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,480
and over again, and all we're 
trying to do is clean up the 

873
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,320
program, great, we make it to 
heaven. 

874
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,200
Our spirit has been renewed. 
But what about our soul? 

875
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,040
And what about our body? 
The only way that gets 

876
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:49,000
reformatted and we rise above 
the cycles of 3D planet Earth is

877
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,400
if we spend the time in the 
incubation Chamber of the 

878
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,200
Father's heart. 
We take our whole being in 

879
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,320
there, not just our spirit, our 
body, our soul. 

880
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,440
And that is our place of rest. 
So that when you get those 

881
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,720
calls, you see it as an 
opportunity instead of oh gosh, 

882
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:13,960
I have to do this. 
I really would rather be playing

883
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:19,400
golf in my case. 
You you see what I'm saying? 

884
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,360
Everything that we do, 
everything that's formatted 

885
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,920
around us, we're we're really 
the the enemy is turning us into

886
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,680
a bunch of Christian 
narcissists. 

887
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:35,000
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah, it's a when Jesus said lay

888
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,960
it aside. 
Yeah, he has higher formatting. 

889
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,880
Yeah, but we won't find our 
place of rest if we spend all of

890
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,480
our time going to the the A a 
things because we blew it. 

891
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,880
People that have been married 
and divorced 3-4 different times

892
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,520
and you know, they go out and 
they repeat the cycle over and 

893
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,240
over again. 
I can't give those people any 

894
00:54:57,240 --> 00:55:00,400
advice except one thing. 
Are you born from above? 

895
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,640
If they say yes, then you got to
go back to the incubation 

896
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:10,000
chamber until you come out on 
the other side seeing how he 

897
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,400
made you and who you are. 
That is when all of the almost 

898
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,000
like a, an egg, you know, kind 
of like when you take a, you go 

899
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,280
to a spa and you have all that 
mud that they slap all over you 

900
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,560
and then you stand up and it 
just cracks and you just shake 

901
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,280
it off. 
Well, that's 3D planet Earth 

902
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,160
cracking off of us. 
And finally, there's the real 

903
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,680
dock, there's the real Rod, 
there's the real Jim, there's 

904
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,000
the real Susie. 
But we have to be able to find 

905
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,240
his love, understand what that 
means to us. 

906
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,680
But that's also our place of 
rest because even when things 

907
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,240
are difficult, we still can 
operate from a place of rest. 

908
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:57,120
And the things that cycle 
through our brain, you can't 

909
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,240
apply that to, that's what it 
means to die to self. 

910
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,680
You basically just you just say 
goodbye to the entire old ways 

911
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,360
in nature. 
If you don't do that. 

912
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,120
You know I have this written 
down. 

913
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,400
First of all, we're born from 
above, right? 

914
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,560
We're filled with the Holy 
Spirit. 

915
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,880
We have gifts, spiritual traits.
We have authority. 

916
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,880
We have mountains that we can 
operate with. 

917
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:27,560
We have stars, we have realms. 
We can either feel, see, hear, 

918
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,040
or know. 
We can, you know, we have access

919
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,120
to Wellness checks, We can have 
access to spiritual checks. 

920
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:40,760
We've got medallions we can use.
There's even more resources. 

921
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,320
And This is why I got a hold of 
you. 

922
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:48,080
I was meditating on the word the
other day and all of the sudden 

923
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,520
something hits me just like 
smashes me in the face like 

924
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,760
getting hit with a massive ice 
cold water balloon in the face. 

925
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,880
And I said why didn't I see this
before? 

926
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,880
Now here's what I'm talking 
about. 

927
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,720
We all know the seven spirits of
God, and if you go to 

928
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:10,960
traditional Christianity, 
they're going to tell you, well,

929
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,360
those are the seven aspects of 
the Father. 

930
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,760
Well, that's not untrue, but 
there's also seven spiritual 

931
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:23,280
beings that God made out of 
himself to be in charge of those

932
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,800
categories and to administrate 
those throughout the multiverse.

933
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,280
Then all this because I was 
thinking about faith. 

934
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,880
I was thinking about healing, 
going through and doing word 

935
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,680
studies and you know how not 
thank God for Google in some 

936
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,280
ways, because I can say Google 
give me every scripture on faith

937
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,400
and then like, you know, 400 
show up. 

938
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,200
The old days, we used to have to
find those brother. 

939
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,360
I don't know if you're old 
enough to remember that, but but

940
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,400
we had to do it by hand. 
I did it by hand back in like 

941
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,480
2015, sixteen because I was anti
technology, believe it or not, 

942
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,200
yeah. 
Well then at least you can you 

943
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,920
can appreciate what I'm saying 
well now. 

944
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,840
Just a little bit. 
I was only doing it for a couple

945
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,640
years. 
But I I do understand the labor 

946
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:14,680
of the love, yeah. 
Well, what hit me was this, the 

947
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:20,240
Lord said. 
Son, I didn't just create you 

948
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:25,520
all meaning humanity in my image
and give you an assignment. 

949
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,440
I have other creative beings 
too. 

950
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,720
I also have a creative being 
that sits at the top of each 

951
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,360
category of about anything that 
you can think of. 

952
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,840
So there's a creative being for 
technology, but here's just some

953
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,400
that I wrote down. 
There's a created being called 

954
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,880
faith that's in charge of faith.
There's one for healing, 

955
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:55,680
revelation, 3D reality, glory, 
fire, seeing light, creative 

956
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,320
essence, arcade, which is the 
records of the ancient past, 

957
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,320
quantum emotions, quantum heart,
the Mazzaroth, the ephod, the 

958
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,080
eternal life. 
Actually, there's one for 

959
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,000
immortality, 'cause you know, 
everybody's into immortality 

960
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000
these days. 
We don't know 'cause we haven't 

961
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,160
lived long enough yet. 
But compassion, grace, mercy, 

962
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,400
the Spirit of prophecy, 
goodness, and even Jesus himself

963
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,960
is the Great Physician in 
another office that he holds. 

964
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:32,000
And that's just a limited list. 
So I said, OK, Lord, what do we 

965
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,160
do? 
He said, well, he said, do do I?

966
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,000
Do I as Yahweh not walk within 
myself, Father, Son, Holy 

967
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,400
Spirit? 
I said, yeah, I mean, it's kind 

968
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,080
of hard for us here in 3D Earth 
to understand, but yeah, we get 

969
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,680
it 'cause, you know, we see 
movies and people walk through 

970
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,440
walls and ghosts and all that 
stuff. 

971
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,640
He said, yeah, it's kind of like
that, but way better. 

972
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,920
I said, OK, I get that. 
He said, well, if you need 

973
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:59,600
faith, instead of having it be 
your faith, why don't you engage

974
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:04,040
the actual created being over 
the whole concept of faith 

975
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,320
called faith? 
Invite him or her, probably a 

976
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,720
him in this case, and say hey 
Faith. 

977
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,600
My name's Doc. 
I'd like to get to know you. 

978
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,920
Let him walk inside of you, let 
him stand next to you. 

979
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,160
And instead of you always having
to be the one that has the faith

980
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:29,840
or has the hope or has the fire,
just lock arms with that created

981
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,560
being who can be in unlimited 
places and draw off of what I 

982
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,760
designed them for. 
Did you catch that? 

983
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,720
You need more fire? 
Ask the ask the being in charge 

984
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,880
of fire to come stand right next
to you, lock arms and draw off 

985
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,800
that created beings fire, 
because that one is authorized 

986
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,200
from the very heart and the very
throne of God. 

987
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,560
So I don't have to go out there 
and look for fire and maybe 

988
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,920
stumble into some strange fire. 
I can get it directly from the 

989
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:15,280
source That is a new concept for
us, but it's not new in the way 

990
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,640
heaven operates is one of my one
of my big irritations through 

991
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:27,040
the years has been that going to
some of these quote faith 

992
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,400
churches having a need. 
They pray for you. 

993
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,680
And even though scripture 
clearly says if there's any sink

994
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,920
among you, call for the other 
the elders of the church and and

995
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,240
they shall pray the prayer of 
faith and then the prayer of 

996
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,640
faith. 
That person shall be made whole.

997
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,440
But then you don't get healed 
and then it's still your fault 

998
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,400
'cause you didn't have enough 
faith. 

999
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,200
Well, you know what? 
I have a new friend called 

1000
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,600
faith. 
Now I have a new friend called 

1001
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,680
healing. 
God's family is much bigger and 

1002
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,720
wider than we ever thought. 
Now, are they humans? 

1003
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,720
No. 
Are they created beings? 

1004
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,560
Yes. 
Angels are are brothers and 

1005
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,240
sisters in a way. 
But they weren't created from 

1006
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,640
the dust of the earth. 
They were probably created from 

1007
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:25,520
gemstones. 
That's what the word on the on 

1008
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,200
the streets of heaven is, by the
way. 

1009
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,960
This is. 
But they're still in tribes and 

1010
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,680
they're still are brothers and 
sisters. 

1011
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,520
And so when I see these very 
spiritual people, Angel, you go 

1012
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:44,440
do this and I go, wait a minute.
I don't, my wife don't like to 

1013
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,240
be ordered around like that. 
And I don't like to be ordered 

1014
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,840
around like that. 
You think the angels decide 

1015
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:55,280
they're my friends, I'm going to
treat them like brothers and 

1016
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,760
sisters or whatever, but the 
closest, dearest individuals. 

1017
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,040
But they're not of the same 
created order as you and I, but 

1018
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,080
they're still precious in God's 
sight. 

1019
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,240
I'm going to treat them with 
respect. 

1020
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,280
And I know a few of my my angels
names. 

1021
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,720
I've got one named, his name's 
Jeremiah, so I call him Jerry. 

1022
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:20,040
I've got one named Rutherford. 
Reminds me of Mr. Rutherford 

1023
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,640
back in the Leave it to Beaver 
days. 

1024
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,200
And then let's see if there's 
Jerry Rutherford in my mind just

1025
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,440
went blank on the third one. 
But I got three main ones that 

1026
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,760
are all around me. 
I send them on vacations, I tell

1027
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,200
them to go spend time with their
families, 'cause they have 

1028
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,960
families. 
Not the way you and I have 

1029
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,080
families, but they have brothers
and sister angels. 

1030
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,200
I'm sure they like to eat Angel 
food. 

1031
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,560
You know, we don't think that, 
you know, you know, when people 

1032
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,360
talk like I'm talking now, 
people just get freaked out and 

1033
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,720
they say, oh, he's just being 
silly. 

1034
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:56,640
Well, do we think that we're so 
sophisticated here that planet 

1035
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,960
Earth is the only place that we 
have technology and 

1036
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,720
infrastructure? 
If we're going to eventually go 

1037
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:08,920
to the marriage supper of the 
lamb, is it not going to be a 

1038
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,920
supper with food and drinks of 
some kind? 

1039
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,760
I mean, some of the things that 
that that we allow the religious

1040
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,320
spirit to get in there just fry 
my brain sometimes. 

1041
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:26,840
Some things are so plain. 
We have so much at our disposal,

1042
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,920
but yet we in part of the 
stretching part of the expanding

1043
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,000
rod. 
We're now beginning to see that 

1044
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:41,480
the Father delights in 
delegating authority to tribes, 

1045
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:48,840
to people, to created beings, 
because it becomes a Symphony of

1046
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:54,400
ongoing creation. 
Universally, he chooses not to 

1047
01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:00,880
do everything himself. 
And the biggest failure probably

1048
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,200
on if there's really dimensions 
and whatever is really the 

1049
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:10,240
reality of it is the biggest 
failures have been humanity 

1050
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:18,080
because we were the ones created
most closely to his being given 

1051
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:25,160
mega resources. 
He even came down and became one

1052
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:30,680
of us so that he walks inside of
us and he's just saying, let me 

1053
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,080
wear you like a suit so we can 
get this thing done. 

1054
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,760
And the more we find him, the 
more we find ourself. 

1055
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,560
That's not that hard. 
We make it hard. 

1056
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,400
And it's just time, you know, I 
don't, I don't know who I can 

1057
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,400
shout this to. 
I don't know who I can tell this

1058
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,760
to. 
But it's more than gifts. 

1059
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,720
It's more than offices. 
It's always been about him. 

1060
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:05,160
It will always be about him. 
He was the one slain from the 

1061
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:10,160
foundation of everything. 
Let's let him out. 

1062
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:17,000
Let's let him be him in us so 
that we can become more us and 

1063
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,680
more him and let's get this work
done. 

1064
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:27,000
That's really the message. 
So hopefully I didn't fry too 

1065
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,280
many brains by saying there's an
actual individual in charge of 

1066
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,400
healing. 
But it sure answers a lot of 

1067
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,840
questions and it takes the 
pressure off of us. 

1068
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,400
The same thing with faith, the 
same thing for so many topics. 

1069
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,600
But here's the rub. 
You got to clean your 

1070
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,440
imagination up. 
You got to expand your thinking 

1071
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,720
and you got to say, OK Lord, for
real, let's just do it the way 

1072
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,720
you say. 
I'm done trying to fill in the 

1073
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:01,400
blanks on my own or fit you into
my own limited thinking. 

1074
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:07,640
If we can get over that, heaven 
opens up to us and it becomes 

1075
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,160
such fun. 
And guess what, brother, we can 

1076
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:16,800
still find our place of rest. 
Super lady. 

1077
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,640
I guess, you know, a couple of 
the things that we're coming to 

1078
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,000
my mind as you were talking is 
obviously the Bible says angels 

1079
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,560
are ministering spirits that 
minister to those who inherit 

1080
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,120
eternity, right? 
And we see angels and 

1081
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,080
ministering to the Messiah when 
he's here. 

1082
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,320
Everything that you're saying, 
you know, fits that into the 

1083
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,720
individual case. 
Like we we have ministering 

1084
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,560
spirits. 
That's not a far fetched idea at

1085
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,960
all. 
It's humbling to hear it. 

1086
01:07:54,240 --> 01:08:03,960
It's it's kind of wild. 
I mean, you know, I've heard a 

1087
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,360
lot of stuff doc over the years 
doing this podcast. 

1088
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,560
I've heard some French stuff. 
You know, I've heard stories 

1089
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:18,080
personally on air, all fair, but
the main comfort and just 

1090
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:25,240
relaxation that overcomes me is 
when it's a revealing, like a 

1091
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:32,160
Rhema, an interaction with God's
word, like like a soft wave 

1092
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,760
that'll come over you and it's 
exciting, but it's just like 

1093
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:41,439
comforting, like be still, don't
overthink this, you know, just 

1094
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,840
be ministered to just take this 
in. 

1095
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,359
You know, that's kind of how I 
feel on this one. 

1096
01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:53,359
Like it's, it's, it's comforting
and with all the other messages 

1097
01:08:53,359 --> 01:09:00,520
out there, you can't confuse 
when you're hearing revelation 

1098
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:05,120
and comfort encountering Rhema 
from the reality, the real 

1099
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:11,160
rundown of how things are going 
on around us, engagements in the

1100
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,479
spirit world. 
There's a different type of 

1101
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,640
spirit and comfort that comes 
with the listening and just, you

1102
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:18,279
know. 
Yes. 

1103
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,960
Getting out of the way because 
there's other stuff that drums 

1104
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,439
up excitement and then puts you 
on the rabbit trail with some 

1105
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,840
things cause fear. 
Some things are like, Oh yeah. 

1106
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:33,640
But it's like sitting at his 
feet and just going, Lord, why 

1107
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,600
would I put you in a box? 
Lord, help me not to do that. 

1108
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:42,240
I empty myself. 
That's how I feel on this one. 

1109
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:47,840
It's fascinating and I'm just 
enjoying even resting in this 

1110
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,120
moment here, hearing everything 
that you said. 

1111
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,200
Well, what's funny is, is, is I 
was just relating what the Lord 

1112
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,560
told me to say. 
I was feeling the rest at the 

1113
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:02,640
same time, you know, I mean, I 
mean, I, I don't know how to say

1114
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:07,360
this, but as I'm growing in 
this, things that used to be 

1115
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:13,560
just theological concepts are 
becoming tangible, almost like 

1116
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,640
something I can eat, feel, 
taste, you know, kind of like 

1117
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,720
walking out in the in the rain 
and feeling the rain on your 

1118
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,880
skin. 
Heaven is real. 

1119
01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:29,800
God's entire realm and domain 
and dominion is real. 

1120
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,640
It's is the real. 
This is temporary. 

1121
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,840
It's not going to last forever. 
There's going to be a new heaven

1122
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:41,400
and a new earth. 
You know, one of the real things

1123
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,800
that I think the enemy has been 
able to to create a web of 

1124
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:53,440
deceit over people is that 
sometimes people become 

1125
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:59,360
comfortable in their misery. 
And nobody wants to admit that. 

1126
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:09,920
But you know what? 
When I saw in Father's love the 

1127
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:15,440
image of who he wanted me to be,
I just told the other guy to 

1128
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:18,400
leave. 
You understand what I'm saying? 

1129
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,360
Yeah. 
That's that wasn't ever supposed

1130
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:26,000
to be me. 
That was the ME that was 

1131
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:31,240
formulated through all of the 
nonsense of the Tree of the 

1132
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,320
Knowledge of Good and Evil that 
has spun its web over planet 

1133
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:41,400
Earth. 
I want to be the me that relates

1134
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:46,880
to the tree of life, that 
everywhere where I go that I 

1135
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,520
leave gold dust behind in the 
supernatural, where my feet 

1136
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:59,440
walk, where I can do exactly 
what I see the Father doing and 

1137
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:04,240
nothing more and nothing less. 
And some people are so 

1138
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:09,080
comfortable in their misery, 
they're afraid to walk away from

1139
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:17,160
something that is really just a 
gross caricature of what they 

1140
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:21,560
should be. 
And when I was finally able to 

1141
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:26,200
come face to face with that, I 
just, you know, you talk about 

1142
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:32,320
having a come to Jesus moment, 
it was like, Oh my gosh, I spent

1143
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:37,760
so much time and effort trying 
to clean something that could 

1144
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:45,970
never be cleaned. 
It it takes the fire, the 

1145
01:12:45,970 --> 01:12:51,730
cleansing fire of God to just do
away with that. 

1146
01:12:51,730 --> 01:12:58,210
Poof, it's gone. 
And now I get to be who I really

1147
01:12:58,210 --> 01:13:03,770
am in him. 
And that's when you start 

1148
01:13:03,770 --> 01:13:07,050
finally, 'cause you're not 
pressing anymore. 

1149
01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:16,040
Probably 98% of all of our 
effort is pressing, striving, 

1150
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,280
trying to clean up what can't be
cleaned up, trying to overcome 

1151
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:25,840
that thought. 
You want to know how to not have

1152
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,240
evil thoughts anymore? 
Go spend some time in the in, in

1153
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,640
the heart of the Father and, 
and, and saturate in His love. 

1154
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,600
They bounce right off you, they 
can't even penetrate it anymore.

1155
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:46,000
And if something slips in, give 
yourself a time out. 

1156
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,680
Go sit in his heart again. 
That's what we were designed to 

1157
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:55,920
do all along. 
It's been hidden from us. 

1158
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:06,360
We have been robbed for so long 
and you know, I, I try to not be

1159
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:11,440
overly critical of the church, 
but Oh my goodness, so much of 

1160
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,160
the way that the church is 
developed. 

1161
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,560
When Jesus said come to me as a 
little child, he told us how it 

1162
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:25,840
was from the beginning. 
A four or five year old could 

1163
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:30,680
figure this thing out and here 
we are out here struggling. 

1164
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:38,040
Just come sit on his lap, hang 
out, hug him, let let his glory 

1165
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,560
just fall on you. 
And you know what? 

1166
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,400
It makes it OK because he 
changes us so deeply within. 

1167
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,960
And then what happens if you 
start going back for that? 

1168
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,840
Because you can revisit 
supernatural experiences over 

1169
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,120
and over again. 
All of the sudden, everything, 

1170
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,400
it's like you start seeing 
everything through rose colored 

1171
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:05,920
glasses. 
Now I live in Alabama and now 

1172
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,320
I'm not an Alabama or Auburn 
fan, but that would be like a an

1173
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:13,760
Auburn fan sing an Alabama fan 
through rose colored glasses. 

1174
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:23,280
Wouldn't that be a miracle? 
They hate each other, kind of 

1175
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,960
like the Packers and the Bears, 
you know? 

1176
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:31,160
Yeah, but that's what happens. 
This is never been hard. 

1177
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,800
It's never been difficult. 
We've had so much done for us, 

1178
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,800
and I'm over everybody making 
this thing so difficult. 

1179
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:46,440
Find out who you are in the 
Father's heart, and then when 

1180
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:52,040
you get that perspective, you 
can start hanging out with some 

1181
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,400
of the coolest created beings 
beyond your imagination. 

1182
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:04,360
I've been hanging out with 
healing and he's a great guy, by

1183
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,920
the way, got a lot on his on his
plate, so to speak. 

1184
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:16,200
But I but in the process, I 
found out that heaven is about 

1185
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,760
to release a completely new 
health and Wellness paradigm 

1186
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,040
into planet Earth that's going 
to re that is going to 

1187
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:31,680
completely begin replacing the 
whole medical establishment the 

1188
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,440
way that it developed out of the
tree of knowledge. 

1189
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:39,520
I agree. 
Now, I don't know exactly when 

1190
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,920
that's going to happen, but it's
going, it's going to change the 

1191
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,840
way that even medicine and 
health and Wellness is done. 

1192
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:54,120
Well, if that's one area, why 
couldn't food production be 

1193
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,040
changed? 
Why couldn't education be 

1194
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,960
changed? 
Music. 

1195
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:04,040
Oh my gosh, by the way, music in
the right frequencies are the 

1196
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:08,600
number one way to boost our 
hydro acoustics. 

1197
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,520
And, and honestly, you know, I, 
I don't endear myself to many 

1198
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,920
people, but really, if, if 
anybody's listening to this and 

1199
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:23,000
you're on the worship team or 
you have any input, isn't it 

1200
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,360
time to start getting some of 
the melodies from heaven instead

1201
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,440
of just, you know, some of the 
stuff I hear for worship these 

1202
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:31,880
days? 
Oh my goodness. 

1203
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,360
You know, if the pastor is 
supposed to be preaching an 

1204
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,920
anointed message from heaven, 
isn't even the order of songs 

1205
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,840
and, and the way that they blend
so that they harmonize with what

1206
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,040
heaven wants to send, Isn't that
what the whole worship 

1207
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,400
experience is about in a church 
service? 

1208
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,440
And then I start telling, I 
start talking to worship teams 

1209
01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:57,080
like this, and they look at me 
like a deer in the headlights. 

1210
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,280
You know, this isn't about 
getting a Grammy at the Country 

1211
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,160
Music Awards or something just 
because you have such a good 

1212
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,480
worship band. 
I don't even care about the 

1213
01:18:07,480 --> 01:18:11,480
worship band. 
Are you bringing heaven down? 

1214
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:16,680
And the way we do is through 
harmonic resonance. 

1215
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,680
That's what that's what happens 
when we think good thoughts. 

1216
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:27,160
Harmonic resonance, everything 
is about sound, light in 

1217
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,920
frequency. 
At the end of the day, we're 

1218
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,760
going to realize that. 
So the question is that I would 

1219
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,720
leave with some of the folks is 
what have you got anchored in 

1220
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,320
you that allows you to resonate 
properly with heaven? 

1221
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:46,520
Cause Heaven wants to expand 
you, heal you, touch you, have 

1222
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,120
you have his name and image in a
way you could never understand. 

1223
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,800
Let that happen. 
I beg you, let that happen. 

1224
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,240
Yeah, so well said. 
It's, it's genuine encouragement

1225
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,720
and it's very personal. 
You know, as we kind of wind 

1226
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,200
down, I'll share something with 
you that happened just a few 

1227
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,640
days ago. 
I have my my two-month old, my 

1228
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,840
baby boy in my arms and I'm 
holding them. 

1229
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,000
Then I just start singing 
melodies. 

1230
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,800
Now I'm singing him a baby song.
But then it it shifts. 

1231
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:24,120
I feel a shift about his life 
and and me holding him in the 

1232
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:29,040
midst of a temporary changing 
existence and how much he's 

1233
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,680
loved. 
Like I just started, I'm just 

1234
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:35,320
singing in melodies and I just 
started like crying and I like 

1235
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:36,640
man. 
My eyes were closed and I 

1236
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,040
entered into heavenly places. 
I'm telling you what. 

1237
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,440
And God was showing me. 
I delight in a new song. 

1238
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,400
I delight in the freedom for you
to trust to go there. 

1239
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,840
Like the scripture says sing a 
new song unto the Lord making 

1240
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:55,840
melody in your hearts. 
And I clearly don't do it 

1241
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,840
enough. 
But it stood out and and I was 

1242
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,600
just fascinated because as I 
opened my eyes up and my baby 

1243
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,840
boys just glow and looking at me
smiling. 

1244
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,760
And I'm like, I don't know if 4 
minutes went by or 15 minutes or

1245
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,200
what happened but. 
Well, listens good, he 

1246
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,000
remembers. 
You know, and, and, and I know 

1247
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,480
we're winding this down, but I 
saw something that just smote me

1248
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:22,800
in my heart in a good way. 
It was about a three or 3 1/2 

1249
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,560
year old boy that had a little 
brother that was maybe about 10 

1250
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,040
or 11 months. 
And in a good way. 

1251
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,760
He goes up to his brother and 
kind of gets in his face and 

1252
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,200
grabs him by the arms and just 
shakes him lightly a little bit.

1253
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,280
And he says, please tell me you 
remember. 

1254
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,280
I'm starting to forget. 
I'm having trouble remembering. 

1255
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,360
Please tell me you still 
remember what it was like. 

1256
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:53,880
And he was talking about heaven.
OK, No more excuses. 

1257
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,000
We've been dumbed down too much.
It's it's time to be lifted up 

1258
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:01,040
in him. 
It's it's time to let him that 

1259
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,760
light shine again. 
And, and, and it's not just that

1260
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,880
we the, the light comes out 
through our eyes like Superman 

1261
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,720
or something. 
It's everything that comes with 

1262
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:17,040
it, the full body of the backing
of heaven with its resources and

1263
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,640
plans and purposes and 
assignments. 

1264
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,040
It's time to get with the 
program. 

1265
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:27,040
Well, as we prayed before this 
recording that God would anoint 

1266
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:31,800
it and that He would use it for 
His will to go out and stir up 

1267
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:37,920
His body here at the end of the 
recording, I'm Even so more in 

1268
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,720
agreement. 
It's always an honor to get 

1269
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:45,200
connected with you, especially 
on air, so we can go out and 

1270
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:48,040
send a ripple effect into the 
remnant. 

1271
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,120
Amen. 
Strengthening what remains and 

1272
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,920
so much more. 
So I want you to plug in real 

1273
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,800
quick doc where people can find 
you. 

1274
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,960
Yes, well, we're, we're always 
working on things because we're 

1275
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:06,160
all works in progress. 
And but I'm a part of a, of a 

1276
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,720
very big team now that, that the
Lord is showing us many things 

1277
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,920
and some things I I've got on 
paper. 

1278
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,560
And we've got a kind of, we got 
to be like the Bereans and we're

1279
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,080
seeking it out, but they look 
very promising. 

1280
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:26,280
But my website is Doc Rodich. 
So it's DOC, my last name 

1281
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,080
RODICH. 
And again, that's Doc 

1282
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:34,120
rodich.com. 
You can order my book off of 

1283
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,440
there or you can go to just 
Amazon and type in Moving 

1284
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:40,320
Towards Sonship. 
And it's not on Kindle because 

1285
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:44,040
it has a workbook in the back. 
So Kindle won't format that. 

1286
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:49,160
And then all my medallions are 
there and anybody that hears 

1287
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:54,480
this broadcast up through the 
very end of July, if you will 

1288
01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:57,000
send me an e-mail either through
my website. 

1289
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,760
Now, my e-mail on my website is,
is, you know, something you can 

1290
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:05,320
access. 
But my Gmail is doc with a 

1291
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:12,960
period rodich@gmail.com. 
So doc.rodichrodich@gmail.com if

1292
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,240
you'll e-mail me. 
And, and of course, this will 

1293
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:20,600
expire the last day of, of July.
And you know, I might have a 

1294
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,800
little bit of a discount if you,
if you mentioned this program's 

1295
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,320
name and we'll, you know, if you
want one of the medallions or 

1296
01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:31,400
you know, something now the book
I can't discount because they 

1297
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,720
come from a place and they have 
a set fee and that's out of my 

1298
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,600
hands. 
But you know, you want a couple 

1299
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,240
sets of medallions and you want 
to try some of the other, you 

1300
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,600
know, those types of things. 
You know, I'll e-mail you back 

1301
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,040
and tell you what the discount 
is because you listen to this 

1302
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:49,000
program, but it will expire on 
August 1st of 2024. 

1303
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,640
All. 
Right, that's how you can get a 

1304
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,560
hold of Doc. 
You'll also find details in the 

1305
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,640
show notes. 
I'm going to ask that you guys 

1306
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:00,720
would share this episode with 
your friends, family members, 

1307
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,480
coworkers, with your pastor 
coming to you from Southeastern 

1308
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:08,800
Pennsylvania. 
God bless and goodbye. 

1309
01:24:32,540 --> 01:24:35,460
Said you got to keep it on. 
You got that shot. 

1310
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:42,360
Would you rather be loved by men
or loved by Christ? 

1311
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,000
Said You gotta keep it. 
Oh, you ain't got that shot to 

1312
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:52,200
shot to. 
Would you rather be in love with

1313
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,320
the world or in love with 
Christ? 

1314
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,760
My mind was sold out for myself.
I let my let my way down to my 

1315
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,760
side even stay down good 
furnishing to pray down devil 

1316
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,080
playing on front of strong. 
Never thought I'd see up cross 

1317
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,960
the line. 
I thought that I would always be

1318
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,120
star. 
I can't fathom drowning in the 

1319
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,520
deep. 
Every day I wake up head to see 

1320
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,360
this what I see Houses empty, 
family gone. 

1321
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,840
Shame on me. 
I'm weak about to take my life 

1322
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:23,640
almost gave into defeat. 
Couldn't find a way to get them 

1323
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,800
to pray. 
Staying in my lane, find a new 

1324
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,120
lane. 
So I took a step, took a step, 

1325
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,960
caught up to the Lord. 
Then he cleaned my mouth and now

1326
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,840
it's up, up. 
Can't say suck, suck, run it up,

1327
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,320
go buck buck. 
Line after line. 

1328
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:48,600
I found my money so I can't go 
back to my old ways. 

1329
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,360
I got to keep it up. 
I can't risk. 

1330
01:25:53,360 --> 01:26:21,400
It came a long way 
Ellie. 

1331
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,640
I've been feeling like I'm Luke 
1 gotta make a move go be in the

1332
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,440
world out of the world that I'm 
still trying to do don't care. 

1333
01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:29,840
They judge me Father God just 
being vulnerable. 

1334
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,720
I can gain a word to lose my 
soul. 

1335
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,760
So if I would I lose said the 
you say this was no tight Rd. 

1336
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,960
I need time to repeat so if I 
got please let me dash just 

1337
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,760
thankful it ain't done no more. 
You came and cut the light on. 

1338
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,800
You just want us to step in this
so we can get our shine on. 

1339
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,840
I seen them demons casting out 
their body have my mind they're 

1340
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,280
trying to kill my flesh. 
I want to show you what shine on

1341
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,880
because you can't be in love in 
the world if you want to love 

1342
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,760
Christ instead you got to keep 
it on. 

1343
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:04,840
You got that shot the shot. 
Would you rather be loved by men

1344
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,320
or loved by Christ?