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This is ease of edification, I got microns in here, he is a
media production guy. He works with a company in New
York City, but you lives in Reading PA, we actually did this
interview in person at Grace Church, right?
Outside of the city of reading. It was an awesome interview.
He's a younger guy, he's got a degree.
Ian law, he studied criminal justice and you just really has
a heart to serve the Lord and get the community involved.
It's a really cool conversation about a half an hour long, it's
edifying and for as young as Mike is surprisingly, he's got a
lot of wisdom of really wanted to honor him just by having them
on the show. And just saying, man, I see the
younger generation, I see you guys.
God sees you guys, you're important.
You have valium at with all that being said, That I am ready to
jump into this episode. Are you guys ready for some ease
of edification? Hey y'all, this is Michael Lanza
with the millennial, Mustard Seed, pod cast.
He's a edification and that was a dope intro.
Mike, it's a pleasure to have you here with me.
You're doing some really great things that I would like to some
highlight it. And that's why we're here man
just kind of chopping it up and encouraging each other.
Tell us a little bit about yourself what you're doing right
now and kind of how God has directed you into the positions
of roles that you're currently. Yeah not for having me for more
context on the production director here at Grace Church,
in chilling. PA.
I have a interesting way of how God's kind of led me to the
positions. I'm in graduate high school,
went to college for criminal justice kind of like halfway
through criminal justice. I had some media production
classes that I was taking ended up falling in love with it took
the classes and did what I had to do to basically have my
digital media marketing major and digital Communications minor
assumed the role production director here.
At the church. I handle all social media and
production elements on a Sunday morning and then and then I do
freelance for a production company out of New York.
So yeah, that's where I'm at right now.
And yeah, I'm excited to kind of see how God leads leads me in
the future. I think it's so cool.
How we start with this direction we want to go and it morphs over
time. The spirit of the Lord leads,
those who are the sons of God. He Rex our steps, right?
You're representing a generation of younger people and your story
and voice needs to be heard. So what you're doing at Grace
Church? Why don't you give us?
A quick rundown of what the Young Adult Ministry groups look
like and like some of the, like, the venue's you guys have been
putting together. I know we have listeners in the
reading area and I'm really hoping that somebody will get
connected through this episode and be a part of all the future
things that you guys have going on.
Yeah. Yeah, I guess I shoulda
mentioned. Also here, I volunteer, as a
young adult leader, we run, what we call Grace groups here at the
church and it's just a time for a group of people to get
together meet once a week. Usually were discussing and the
message from a Sunday, that's kind of how it started to kind
of morphed into, you know, its own Ministry, where we kind of
dive into more deeper deeper topics deeper conversations.
A lot of times will bring up a topic that that, you know, we've
done. We bring Is to to kind of
highlight different things in people's lives and then
ultimately open up the floor for people to discuss and kind of
give, you know, their background in a certain area or topic and
its really opened up to be a, it's a safe space that people
feel comfortable to to kind of share in.
We currently meet every other Sunday.
Sunday nights from 6:00 to 7:30 gear at the church.
And yeah we try to host different serve opportunities.
We were actually down Down to Opportunity House, a couple
weeks ago, serving lunch. And we'll be down there again,
at the end of February to serve lunch again for the residents
there. Yeah, so we're trying to get
plugged into the community, doing more serving opportunities
being the hands and feet as we are called to be, we have
different events. We try to do a little bit of
fundraising events because you know, some things do cost to
supply needs for people. We actually had a car show here
back in October and we have plans to do more More
fundraisers to kind of give back into the community.
We're just trying to, you know, be active in.
You know, what's going on here at the church?
You know, separately with what goes on in the community and
just trying to be able to be a resource to not only, you know,
people from the outside but be a resource that people are
actually within the group and and just creating a safe space
for people to be able to share what they're going through.
What God's doing in their lives. Yeah.
And and what we're finding is like, the more that you allow
open floor people. A lot of times feel that Comfort
ability to share more about what who ends up going on in the
lives and things that people struggle with or things that
people are succeeding at and you know, if it's different things
like that. As a young man here in Reading
Pennsylvania you have this desire to get people connected
in the community and when we're called to share the gospel like
we're called to go out, but we're also called to make
disciples. A lot of people want to see like
the entertainment on YouTube where it's like all they want to
see a demon cast out or they want to watch all this content
on YouTube about Nephilim or whatever.
I mean there's all that weird stuff.
There's a time and place for that.
It's very important that we actually Understand the threads
that are in the Bible because God wants us to know those
things. But if we are missing the hands
and feet aspect of it, We can have knowledge wisdom, we can
have Mysteries unfolded. We can speak really well, but if
we don't have love, it's all worthless.
So for anybody who listens, if you guys are a part of a Young
Adult Ministry or attending a church thinking about attending
the church, be the hands and feet, wherever you get plugged
in, and if you've got a natural gift and calling to stir
something up, they get a small group together or just spend
time with people, just organically investing with no
ulterior motive, Aman. That's where you're going to
see. You're positioning yourself for
God to move. So Mike, not a lot of people are
actually getting married who are younger today when dr.
Larry Sanger was on, just a few months ago we covered marriage
from a Biblical perspective of one into some areas that I was
blown away by what she brought to the table.
So talk a little bit about your engaged right now and that's
exciting. Yeah, you fall in love and you
want to pursue this Godly relationship to just talk a
little bit about that. We have mine.
My fiancé and I are getting married in early March, so come
and more real. Yeah, we met in college and
that's where I feel like God's just been leading me.
And like a lot of a lot of different people we've discussed
about like, oh well like why aren't you using your degree or
like, why, you know, why do you feel like you don't have like a
full plan yet or we're just kind of going with the flow?
I feel like God's like you know, took took me on this journey.
Yeah. And you know I am where I am is
because I've been so kind of open to what path he's leading
me on. But yeah, we met in college in
the criminal justice department we were both criminal justice
Majors. My position with dating was to
not waste anybody's time and so me and her had like a three-hour
conversation on the first date kind of going through all of our
non-negotiables. Where we were in life, kind of
our background and it was, it was pretty funny because she
grew up Catholic. And, you know, her family
upbringing was, was only, you know, along along those lines.
And I get, you know, I was at that point, I was working
part-time, my role here at the church, looked a little bit
differently, but I was still pretty active serving on a
Sunday morning. So I had her come to a Sunday
service and, you know, with her Catholic background, it it
looked a lot different for her, but yeah, she definitely
definitely felt. You know, the pool from God.
I would say that first time she lived in Florida in Florida at
the time. So we had a three-month period.
Where we were with see each other much when she came back
over the fall. She played soccer for the school
and then we had a transition. With a co-pastor coming on,
actually pass. It Rodney, who was was here for
2020 and 2021 and not me by the way, you guys know.
And and I think that whole transition she really got
plugged in here at the church and really started to grow, I
saw a lot of growth with with her and and I I've walked with,
with God, for a good chunk of my life.
I've been raised in the church. Church, I've had definitely ups
and downs, and and I feel like my biggest growth was growing
with her with, with, with our relationship.
So yeah, my my voice definitely is, you know, a lot of people
talk about equally yoked and you know, being equally yoked is so
important. I mean, you guys people, I feel
like can as long as God is in your Forefront, even if both of
you aren't the quote-unquote Christians, You feel like you're
supposed to be or you're not where you're supposed to be yet
growing together to get there. I feel like is so much so
important as individuals because, yeah, I feel like I
definitely was not my best self meeting her, but have grown.
A heck of a lot in my spiritual walk with with putting her first
and learning, the different Avenues of.
You know what dating look like. What engagement life look like,
what marriage life is going to look like.
And then it's like, you know, just the realism of life in
general and like, just a difficulties that come, you
know, with living life and then mixing that into into the
marriage realm is, is, is very important.
So, so, yeah. I yeah, I would just encourage
anybody who's, you know, In a similar situation to make sure
God is in the Forefront, cuz I feel like we've grown together,
but I feel like if we would have pieced together, the things
quicker, we would be even even more even more, you know, on
fire than we already are. And I've been, I feel like we're
we're definitely pushing for for what God has for us being used
here at the church being used in the community, you know?
Yeah. I mean, even the young adults
Ministry. I'm one of my biggest things
that I was praying for a while is finding Godly Community
inside my own age group. And that was something that that
God. I feel like is provided through
Grace Church in this Young Adult Ministry that we've kind of,
kind of Taken and started and, you know, and getting off the
mindset of quantity and pour more into quality and that was
and that's something that as the young adult.
Street. We've really been purposing to
do and we've and I feel like we've grown individually a whole
lot and we have open open Realms of communication safe spaces for
people to kind of just talk about things that they struggle
with the, you know, our daily lives.
It's like it's real, it's there. It's like we have, you know,
this world is heavily demonic and, you know, evil is prevalent
and You know, but you know evils only going to continue if you
don't shed the light in it. So it's like you have you have
you have all these, you know, different people that are like
all. Let's just let's just huddle
here and cluster and just talk that's not what we're called to
do with call to go out into the world and be the hands.
And feet will also be the light and be the thing.
It doesn't have to necessarily be where, you know, you're
shoving, Jesus down people's throats, being the light.
I feel like is enough to To show people that you're different and
showing people that you're different.
Doesn't mean they they might come to Jesus right then and
there A lot of times it does but you know, people have choices in
life and I feel when we and I feel like when we stop getting
hung up on, Oh, you know, the our mission is to share the
word, but it's up to others to receive it.
So today, I got home to little tangent there.
But you said being equal, yolks that really jumped form you
because a lot of the times people want to just get marriage
because they feel he's going to answer all the bad dating
history of their life. Right.
It is like dating a my opinion. I didn't know any.
This does I got saved like nine years ago and it's been a long A
rough process. But when I was dating, when I
was younger, I was really just practicing separation.
Yeah, you know, it was like, you just get into this mindset was
like, how well I don't like this about this individual, six
months into it and so on to the next, right?
And that was the this worldly mentality.
So really taking a serious approach and being like, hey I
want to be equally yoked and do we have the same things in mind
as huge amount of opinion? And then what stored up in our
hearts is going to flow out of our mouths?
I like what we talked about whether we're like on the mic
off the mic, just in our conversations like It's going to
words. What is in our heart is going to
flow? Like, when I was younger, I used
to have a lot of conversations that are nothing.
Like they are now as a man. No, but I was a boy about like a
boy, as a man. I'm thinking, like a man.
So here and was flown out of your heart is important to me
and some other key things demonstrating.
Being the hands and feet. Like, we're not looking to fill
the church today or tomorrow when this episode airs, there
may be somebody who hears this episode who lives in West
Reading or in Douglasville, Pottstown Philadelphia, any of
these small, you know, local cities all around the country
and they may hear this and in 10 months they may just wake up and
be like yo, I'm gonna go up to that church today because
something Mike said or Rodney said stuck with me and I just
couldn't let it go because it was different than what I was
hearing at work. Work.
It was different than what I was hearing in the world.
It was different than what I was hearing when I went to shoot
pool with guys after work and chase tail and none of that
brings any completion in my life.
We don't always know the ripple effect and that's why this is
important, and then you said, Jesus sends us out.
Yeah, he sends us out two at a time.
You think about a man, and a woman.
We leave our parents. We leave our mother, and our
father. We cling to our wife.
So, we're in marriage, you're already, you're one, but you're
too. So when Jesus sent the disciples
out, he was like, yo, I'm sending y'all out of two at a
time. So like, you never really walk
alone and I think that that's like, most man's desire.
Like most men were like, First off, we want to be respected,
but we want to be loved and seen and recognized.
And God gives a wife. And this is talked about.
I think his style Solomon says, it may be.
No, David says it, huh? One of them.
Are you guys know? I'm not good with remembering
exactly the name of the book and the person who said it.
But I remember the meat of it. He says I found the one who my
heart loves. There's a difference between a
woman of the world and a wife from the Lord, and he who finds
a wife from the Lord finds favor with God, but all of us are in
progress. So if anybody is struggling
through your marriage right now, you're thinking about getting
married, but you're scared because of what you seen your
sister go through your cousin. Maybe you've been through,
you've been divorced and heartbroken seeking God.
First seeking his kingdom will add on to us everything that we
need. To do time.
I just I'm Blown Away by you know, meeting just getting
connected with people all around the world at this point but now
locally that was a huge part of like when I met in first talk
with you Mike because I was going through a season where I
was really lonely, like, I'm podcast, I'm getting hammered,
and ways that I don't normally talk about just rejected in
certain ways, but I knew God was just tugging me, keep going,
don't give up. And when our first conversation
we had over the phone, some of the things that we talked about
and then just learn in, like, where you were at, what you were
doing and where your heart was, that was a wave of encouragement
for me. So, everything, you're sharing
here today, I know. Resonates with me, personally.
I'm edified by hearing you speak.
So, let's kind of like, wind down here a little bit.
Do you want to tell people where they can find you and just
anything that, you know, close this out?
What do you think is relevant for the younger generation?
The millennial generation older generation to hear, what would
be your advice to the body of Christ?
Yes, but, I mean, especially for the younger generation, I feel
like we are You know, we have this mindset that we're in the
shadow of the older generation and especially in a church
setting. I feel like you know, we we have
a lot to offer the church but I feel like necessarily we feel
like oh I can't or I'm not and even as a church you know, the
church body as a whole. I mean if there's a you know you
I'm sure you have listeners that are, you know, above the young
adult a you know, really pouring into the Young Adult Ministry
and the Next Generation even student age high school
students. It's like all and especially
working. I also as a student leader and I
see these kids who have potential in their life, but
they struggle with the just garbage that's in high schools
nowadays. And I feel like, you know, in
Our Generations were called to Shepherd, the generation below
us. And we know.
So I would say, the biggest thing is, if you're in the young
adult age and your Or, you know, a struggling.
Because for me, it was a struggle for finding Christian
Community. It's like I had friends but I
wouldn't hang out with them a lot because of the activities,
they would get themselves into or the things that they like and
enjoy that. I don't enjoy because of being
partaking of the world. And so, my biggest prayer for a
while was that God show me Christian Community and show me
friends that I can put trust into and share you know my life
with and you know he's done that.
It. He's done that through me,
answering a call that he had me, if that makes sense.
So like he called Pete, he was like all right.
You know, there's people within the church that are here for you
but you guys haven't been on that relational aspect yet
because there's nothing here to be relational about.
So then you know, when we started the group, it started it
was rough in the beginning because it's like we've there
was a lot of young adults have been coming to this church for a
while. But, you know, and this This is
what I feel like sometimes happens in the church.
It's like come to church on a Sunday.
We know there's other people in our age groups that exist but we
don't get connected with them. We're not growing spiritually
with one another. So when we started the group it
was hard to kind of mold what that look like.
Because there were so many people that are in this group
that, we know each other, but don't know, each other.
And then, as time kind of kind of felt, you know, progress, we
were like, you know, this group Program, like, you can call it a
program, but like the order of like, how this group is
operating was in substantial for what we needed as young adults.
And then that's when we kind of, you know, dropped off into our
own Ministry and kind of pushed into, you know, deeper
conversation topics that are specific to us and how they
relate to us in the times that we go through.
So yeah, I would say, God definitely opened up a whole
world. Wind when I saw it to get
connected and build something that didn't didn't one point
exist. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, definitely.
Just, you know, if you're in the, you know, reading Berks
County area, were we meet every other Sunday?
You can find our website at my grace, church.com young adults,
and we have a whole calendar there with the different events
in our meeting times and stuff like that.
We're we're kind of like what we're in.
We did a book study with crazy Faith by Michael Todd, which was
a really a really cool, really eye-opening book.
And yeah, and we love to just bring different perspectives to
the table. It's like, you know, I feel like
there isn't, you know there's you know, one God, one father,
son, Holy Spirit. Like you other than that there's
so many ways of interpreting kind of what God's Speaks to
different different people and, you know, different people's
experiences have different impacts on people's lives.
So and we definitely definitely opened up those realms for for
this group and Ministry that we're in.
So see if you're in the it's ages, 18 to 30 and we're just
looking to connect with one another and continue to grow the
relationships. That seems like the world
already has the world. Aren't the world are He has
these deep connections with one another and people and on and
it's funny because it's like we see it.
It's like people are willing to put themselves in Risk danger
for other people. It can be even with like you
know, alcohol drugs sex money. It's like everybody's willing to
put themselves in positions that they, you know, it's not, you
know that where they're at having to step, you know, stick
their neck out for somebody just to get connected.
Just feel like they're a part of something.
Yeah, there's a better way. So much better ways.
And it's like, sometimes it doesn't.
And I feel like as a church, we sometimes do a disservice to
people because it's like we we are called to be that bridge for
one another. And if we're not being that
bridge for people, then where are they going to go to get
communities? Are going to go to the world
because as human beings, we Thrive off of community, God
calls us in the Bible to be in community with one.
Another grow each other up, sharpen each other, and it's
like, if we're not doing that in the church then Are we going to
do that at? And and that doesn't even mean
the church physical building. Yeah, it's like within the
dresslink we are called to be the church.
Some people get that Twisted to it's like you know the church
building even though yes. Like this is a space that we
come we worship. We hear message connect with one
another. We are the church.
We are what's more important is connecting with people loving
one another and as like and The other thing I would also
encourage the listeners is to really walk in love.
I've had different experiences in my life where love is hard to
do sometimes and you know I feel like as God has shifted and is
continuing to soften and change my heart.
Love just comes out for people that like man, like it was hard
to love this person or that person, but I feel like that
God's opened up a whole new realm of insight for me.
And it kind of Of how how my life supposed to supposed to
impact the world. It's been an honor to have you
here on the show man, and I love seeing how God is getting this.
This Broadband message to men, women all across our country is
one time. Yeah, thanks well that's it.
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