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That's tough. We're in a very tough spot.
I think that what we're doing right now is a great benefit and
virtue because it's an end around between this whole
corrupt informational system, media system.
We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into
existence and literally raised himself from the dead, and yet
we are not going to believe that anything else exists in the
spirit realm, even though his word tells us that they do.
Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do,
and they weren't permitted to go to heaven, so they wander the
earth. You know, I've seen the eyes
turn black to unknown tongues being spoken.
These giants would love way up in the Highland, the young
Braves, the young men would hide them in the trees.
They'd wait for one of these 12 footers to come walking down the
bath and they would jump on them and kill them, drag them back in
the village, and the village would feast on the body freedom.
Then people start to get weapons, they start to get
armor, they start to build cities, they start to fortify
their cities. Now God looks down and there's
violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are
at is not against each other. It's against these
principalities and these rulers and these archons in the high
places. It's really worthwhile to read
the Bible yourself. Fear is one of the primary
drivers of mind control because we have to take every thought
captive and resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
that is a justice case against the Kingdom of darkness.
Welcome back to the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
I'm your host Rod, and I have a legendary episode for you guys.
This is a collaboration with Basil and Guns from Canary Cry
Radio and Canary Cry News Talk and Michael Basham from Fringe
Radio Network and Spirit Force. And of course, we have Aaron
Christian Davis joining this discussion to talk about his
Boots on the ground experience in North Carolina, specifically
in the places that were heavily hit from the past hurricanes.
This is a bombshell round table episode because we get into so
much heavy conversation talking about what's really going on
from a boots on the ground perspective in North Carolina,
information that gets covered on Canary Cry News, talk from Basil
and Gans, and also speaking faith and life.
And having this conversation with these men is encouraging
and eye opening and there's so many great perspectives that are
shared. I do want to say I got an e-mail
from a listener named Carrie, so I'm going to give her a shout
out right now. I'm not going to say her last
name, but she did a song called Appalachia You Are Loved, and I
play that at the end of this episode.
She asked me to share this with some people in Appalachia that
have been affected. And this is a heartfelt, like
prayer warrior song from the heart of a mother that's not too
far outside of the affected area where her and her husband have a
ministry. I know on one of the emails I
read recently, she said her and her sons were listening to some
of the content I was creating in regards to what has happened in
specifically the Carolinas, the aftermath.
Her and her sons were heavily encouraged by some of these
recordings here on the MMS. So I just wanted to give her a
quick shout out and you can look forward to that song being
played at the end of this episode.
Now, the cool thing about this recording is going out on
multiple different platforms. This will show up on Spirit
Force. It'll show up on Fringe Radio
Network. It's also going to show up on
Canary Cry Radio. The banner that's over top of
this episode is Never Underestimate the Power of Love.
And I think we're learning over here on the MMS just the how
much power is in love and collaboration and just getting
to know people that are out there.
You know, so many things go through my mind as I realize how
cool this is that God has given me a platform to be able to
connect with people that at one point in time I was just
listening to while working in a factory years and years ago.
And now I'm actually talking with guys like Basil and Guns
who I've stood on their shoulders and they have really
paved the way in so many ways. So I just want to honor both of
them and it just encourage you guys to share this episode far
and wide. It's heartfelt, it's eye
opening. We get into a little bit of
conspiratorial topics, but it's so much more than that because
we're kind of passing the mic back and forth asking Aaron
questions about what he's experienced.
I mean, he got bit by a poisonous spider.
He's had bears coming close to the camp, he's had interactions
with the local militias with churches down there, and it's
just really an amazing perspective to see his faith in
action, him saying yes, the power of yes, and going into
this, these towns that have just been decimated from the past
hurricanes. I really appreciate you guys for
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Like I said, this is a legendary episode with Canary Cry Radio,
Fringe Radio Network, Spirit Force, yours truly Rod and Aaron
Christian Davis. I think it's about time to jump
into this episode. I'm ready.
Are you guys ready? Let's go.
This is Rod Smith from
southeastern PA. Aaron Christian Davis from
Wilmington, NC. Michael Basham from Waynesville,
NC. Basil Rosewater, Canary Cry News
Talk Off the Grid, Interdimensional Time Traveler.
Oh great. This is some credentials right
there. Everybody gone Shimura from the
land of new scum. Well, it's an honor to be with
all of you men. I have summoned you all here
today for one of the greatest messages, which is faith and
hope and even tragedy and all of these things that are going on.
And I just really want to honor each one of you guys, Michael,
Aaron, Basil Gonz. And I've stood on the shoulders
of Basil and Gonz way back in the day like they were the first
people outside of Doctor Chuck Missler that I knew were like
fringe and into airwaves. And it's just legendary to have
you 2 here with me. And then, you know, before, I
guess we just passed it down the line and and talk about why
we're here. I just want to start off by
saying this whole thing, the banner over this is never
underestimate the power of love. That's the banner that's over
this whole thing. Appreciate you having me back
here and with a big group chat here.
I love it. Yeah, I know it's a we.
There's a scripture in Revelation that talks about the
first love, you know, not forgetting about the first love.
So that's, I was reminded of it over the weekend.
So it's, it's interesting that you bring it up again today.
So maybe it's something I need to hear over and over again this
week because it's been a little bit of a rough weekend.
But you know, it's good to have the community of faith, not just
supporters of the podcast and stuff.
I, I, I rage tweeted over the weekend or posted I guessed
about quitting podcasting, half serious, half, you know, just
venting. But the response I got it, I was
reminded that there are people that listen to the things I say
and the Lord has used me as a vessel and a huge blessing.
So I feel very blessed and encouraged despite the hardships
in certain situations that I'm going through at the moment.
But you know, everybody goes through hard times, everybody
goes through some difficult things, but the faith family is
always there. So it's, it was a good reminder
for me. So hopefully it reminds someone
else out there going through some stuff.
Absolutely. Hallelujah.
Thank you, Lauren. Such an honor I don't.
Know who's got something to say? Go ahead, Sir.
I'm just. Yeah, I was just going to say
it's a really special opportunity here to get together
with you guys. I mean all of you, with the
exception of Aaron, and he's soon to be part of the lore as
well. We have sort of a history in
this weird little space and it's become more obvious than ever
and even recognized by like the highest levels of alternative
media that we are in 1/5 generational war, which is a war
for the minds of civilians in the, you know, in the
bureaucratic secular definition of 5th generational war,
information war, which is just a reflection of what we have known
all along. And that's that it's a spiritual
war. And I can't stop repeating it
over and over just to remind people that, you know, spiritual
wars are made-up of spiritual battles, and those spiritual
battles are played out in the lives of individuals.
So we all have these individual spiritual battles that are not
metaphorically constituting the spiritual war.
They are literally constituting the spiritual war.
And hey, if you, if you got a battle, if there's a battle on
going individually or a battle going on corporately, what do
you do? You support each other, You
bring in other soldiers, you bring in support, you bring in
these types of things. And this is reflected in the not
just, you know, spiritual realm, but like I said, the
principalities, the powers, the governors of this world, these
worldly governors know the power of that reality.
And they fight the spiritual war as well.
They call it 5th generational warfare.
And it's not just between nation states, it's between ideologies,
it's between principalities, it's between powers.
And when you see things like what happens in North Carolina
and Florida and Georgia and places like that, it's so easy
to get wrapped up. It's so easy to get obsessed
with the physical devastation, which is very important.
It deserves all the attention it can get.
It deserves way more attention than what the mainstream was
giving it. And I, I think it's no
coincidence that the, the proximity, the temporal
proximity between the disasters and the election played a
perfect strategy in, in whatever, whatever spiritual war
or 5th generational operation that was going on.
But again, keeping this in mind when it comes to disasters and
Americans and people and Christians coming together to
stand side by side to cover each other's right flank with our
Shields, the closer we stand and the the, the proximity of our
operations and our prayers is what brings victory every single
time. So that's why I'm so stoked here
to talk to you, Aaron, because you are, you're the, you're the
first guy that I've been able to talk to who is Boots on the
ground in the operations, Americans, people, Christians
doing the Lord's work, being the hands and the feet.
And not only, you know, your, your physical operations on the
ground in North Carolina, but also the, you know, bringing it
back here to participate in the spiritual and the 5th
generational warfare because the information needs to get out
there. And it's obviously information
that's not getting out. And to keep that but, you know,
censored or hidden is a huge victory for the adversary.
And so I think it's very important that not only us here
on this show, but everybody who's watching and listening,
you know, take up their shield and remember that whether it is
the bureaucratic 5th generational war or whether it
is the spiritual war being waged, Being here, watching
this, listening to this, and then speaking with your mouth
both to God and to other people about what we learned here is an
extremely powerful weapon. And unfortunately, the adversary
is not blind to how powerful that weapon is.
So I just want to, I would, I feel much more comfortable, you
know, participating in such an important conversation, standing
side by side with my Bros. Amen.
Hallelujah. I love the the holy hype track
there well. I'll say this real quick.
I definitely was really, really inspired by all of you guys.
I just met Michael recently, but you know, just as far as your
boots on the ground, Basil, you know, going to Burning Man and
whatnot, you know, it just everything kind of leading up to
like this whole thing. You know, it was definitely
experiential through my life and like, you know, being able to
see, you know, you guys do your things and speak about these
things. And I remember talking to Rod
not that long ago, right after the after the storm and I, you
know, I talked about going there and you know that it was it was
just that it was just talk. You know, it wasn't until a
friend of mine who had gone down there, you know, Christy, shout
out to her. She's still there.
She was told that they're going to be looking for for bodies and
she wasn't equipped equipped for anything like that.
So she called me up and I've never met her before.
And it was just a perfect time. You know, I prayed about it and,
you know, I just got out of church and she called me and
left me this message. And you can tell that she was
very, very shaken. And it's just like, you know, I
think I'll just go, might as well just just go.
And, you know, having that support from Rod and then like,
you know, the group of men that you know, are on our Thursday
night prayer call and stuff. I mean, they honestly equipped
me. You guys have equipped me.
I've been listening to all of you guys for a very, very long
time and just having that foundation and that support and,
you know, prayers and everything.
You know, Rod, you, you were very intentional about, hey,
this is what I want you to do. Never underestimate the power of
love. And then like just not being
fearful, you know, and documenting everything.
And it's been honestly the most incredible thing that's ever
happened in my life. You know, just excuse me if I
get a little emotional, just being able to go down there and
feel the love and the spirit, not just feel it like a nice,
you know, movie that kind of gets you going or whatever, but
actually seeing it operate in real time.
I mean, I, Michael, I talked to you.
How many coincidences happened every single time that we would
pray about something, Rod, how many times like like that just
immediately and it's just like that's God literally answering
prayers in real time. And it was just, it was so
humbling and overwhelming that just the frequency and like, you
know, it all just happened so quick and it's still happening.
I mean, here we are right now. We're all sitting here talking.
I this doesn't feel real to me. I love all of you guys and like
having that support and that foundation and that brotherhood,
that fellowship. We talked about Lord of the
Rings, right? Look at the the name of that
movie, the fellowship. What did we talk about, Rod?
What if I've been missing in my life?
Fellowship, What was happening in the mountains?
Fellowship, you know. Wow, it's powerful.
You know, when the the storms were happening, I mean, this
was, I mean, just let's be frank, it was the most important
thing any of us could talk about at the time, even with the
election coming up, even with all the crazy current events
happening. I mean, the war was escalating
at the time too. But I think that there was a
chord that this disaster struck in the hearts of American men,
women, Christians, people, you know, it, it was this diversion
for one second away from the craziness, away from the
politics, away from this kind of thing.
It was at least a moment of diversion back to caring about
the the people, the individuals, the souls that live here among
us. And I think there's a really
beautiful moment in the country, which unfortunately we only
often experienced during time of disaster.
And then we saw immediately the strategy to turn it into a
political thing or to, you know, to take advantage of the
situation. And, you know, we heard stories
about people going down there and helping.
We heard stories about the the failures of FEMA and the
government. We heard stories.
I mean, I can't remember the last time that people were
really considered American heroes.
You know, you talk about what were they the, the, the Cajun
Navy? I'm sorry, I don't know what
they're called, but whatever, you know, these these groups of
people down in the area showing up to do the real work that
wasn't getting done through the government.
And it was, I mean, talk about shifts of power.
We obviously went through a shift in electoral power here,
not just with the presidency, but with the, you know, the
population as a whole. There's, we seem to have turned
a corner here. But the, the juxtaposition of
the effectiveness of Americans taking things into their own
hands versus waiting for the government to do it, I think
woke a lot of people up in a way that they had not been woken up
before. And I know I also, of course, it
occurred to me like, Oh my gosh, I got nothing going on.
I can podcast from down there, we can figure this out, Let's
go. But for all the different
reasons that happens in people's lives, me, like I'm sure
millions of others decided that we couldn't do it, but you did,
which is incredible. Can you tell us a little bit
about when you first gone down there?
What were you expecting? What was it like in reality?
And what surprised you the most when you got there?
As far as what I was expecting, like I said, I, I already had
like that, that, that support from Rod and all the other guys
and stuff. So I mean, honestly, I was, I
was kind of unshaken. Rod was very, very specific on
like, you know, documenting everything on my way there.
And then once I'm there and, you know, in hindsight, I understand
why he told me that because I had so many different
interactions and stories and prayers answered in real time
that if I didn't document these things, I would literally just
be fumbling words out of my mouth right now, right?
But no, it's unlike anything I've ever seen.
The destruction from a physical standpoint, even if you saw it
on Hollywood screen, it wouldn't even like seem real.
You know, just when you first get into the mountains and you
see how many landslides there were and just the path, and
there's so many stories too, you'll see a house that
literally is in the middle of this huge landslide.
In this landslide. There was nothing to stop it.
And it literally just separated. And it was because people prayed
over their homes, you know, specifically the very first
night I got there, Mandy, she was one of those those stories
that just didn't really make sense.
She's running, her and her husband are running a
distribution center. And they told me the story and I
filmed it. I sent it over to Rod.
There's all these trees on top of this hill that are basically
leaned right up against the house.
And the night that the storm first arose, they, they prayed
over the house and said, God, if you protect our home, you know,
we will follow you and like, you know, glorify you in any way,
shape or form that you see fit. And now all of a sudden they run
a distribution center. And just from a physics
standpoint, looking and being there, it, it didn't make any
sense. And their house was spared.
And now they've got hundreds of pallets of, you know, medical
supplies, feeding stuff, everything that people need
that, you know, survive in the physical right now has all been
provided through them. And it was because God literally
protected their, their house very next day.
That's when I got to the camp. And there wasn't like a whole
lot of communication or structure or anything like that.
So when I first got to this this Baptist Church down there in the
valley, there wasn't a whole lot of authority or structure.
And then I guess just with my military background and stuff
that kind of put me in this position of authority.
And I'm doing things for the church.
And then all of a sudden, you know, I hear from the people in
the church that there's a militia right down the road,
Camp Miller. And everybody was like, oh,
panicked and living in fear. And it's just like, oh, yeah,
they have guns and open carry and this and that.
And I'm just kind of like, I'm going to go check it out in the
morning because, like, I kind of want to, like, get boots on the
ground, so to speak. And I go over there and like,
you know, take me to your leader, You know?
And I met Jordan or Jacob. I kept calling him Jacob last
time. His name is Jordan.
And the amount of love that I saw coming from Camp Miller,
yeah, sure. Everybody was like open carrying
and stuff, but it wasn't for reasons that anybody really
understood. It was because they got burned
by the government and FEMA and they allowed them to come into
the camp. And when they tried shutting
down the camp, they were just like, Nope, you're not shutting
it down. Thank you.
We don't need you. And instead of the government
and FEMA being in control, the people, the body of Christ, are
in control. They and their operation over at
Camp Miller are doing amazing things.
I mean, these people, they've got everything set up.
It looks like a forward operating base from like a
military standpoint and just everything is very organized.
Everybody is loving and compassionate.
They go out of their way to help anybody and everybody.
We take down lists of anybody that comes down from the
mountains and lost everything. We give them three meals a day.
You know, we, we find a way to figure out whatever problem they
have, how we can remedy that either temporarily or you know,
in Michael's case, he donated a, what is it a 40 foot, a fifth
wheel trailer to somebody that lost their home.
John and just people are rising up like that and just giving
everything. People that have abundance,
they're giving it all away. They're giving their time, their
talent, their treasure. Pun intended, but they're doing.
All these things save the world, baby.
That's right. So.
Dude, that's incredible. I'm instantly struck like
dramatically by what you said about the landscape.
And that's something you know that that I think you really
have to witness because on the news, you're going to see the
houses, you're going to see the roads washed out, you're going
to see those types of things. But to imagine the devastation,
or not to imagine, to see it where it's not just the works of
human hands that were destroyed in this, but to see the
landscape, the geography scarred by this event.
You know, the mountains that the Lord raised up, you know, at the
beginning of time. To see those, you know, torn
asunder or even dissolved in a way, it just speaks to the
absolute devastation. The, the militias were so
interesting, dude. Because of course, you know, any
coverage anybody was seeing about that is, oh, the militias,
they're attacking the government.
They're, it's anarchy. They're, you know, FEMA is
running away in fear. Oh my gosh, he's crazy.
Honestly, Trump supporters are, you know, are, are, are taking
over. It's civil war almost.
But to hear that, it's like, you know, the these were people
doing what needed to be done. It doesn't sound like they were
breaking any laws for whatever version of laws you could say,
you know, existed in such a such an intense atmosphere.
Of course, the laws still apply. But you know, things are things
are crazy. And it's interesting because
there's a segment of the country when they heard about militias
going around helping people out that go, wow, that's what
America is all about, people coming together, keep people,
you know, helping each other out, rebuilding, making sure
things don't get any worse, etcetera.
And then there's an entirely different part of the country
going. Last Civil.
War. Oh, no.
And not only does that speak to like a political division, but
again, honestly kind of a spiritual division.
This this idea of how we regard our fellow man.
I think it was really revealing to a lot of people.
What was so so you were invited down there with a group.
Did was there like a specific mission that you had or was it,
you know, show up and be hands and feet?
No mission whatsoever. Like I said, Christy reached out
to me and she said that when she got down there that they wanted
to have people go look for for bodies.
And you know, she's not equipped for that.
I ended up doing that the very first day.
Like that was the call. The call was come look for
bodies and you're. Like.
Let's go. I remember when Aaron called me
and told me that he's like, yeah, I, I'm equipped to do
this. Christy's not There's like
people are just catching this interest and coming in and
saying, OK, where do I fit and what can I do?
And so Aaron, you, you had a couple.
Well, there was some bumps in the road, man.
Let's talk about some of the resistance and what what was
that look like? You're out doing reconnaissance.
You you touch some water and you have some scars on your body,
physical, probably emotional temporarily from some of these
experiences. Let's let's kind of jot into
that like like that was a. You had also said something.
So like me and Rod talked quite a bit.
We've become very, very close. But like, I listened to a lot of
his advice and he told me like, you know, just do me a favor.
Like, you know, when you get there, like don't overdo it and
don't become overwhelmed. You know, if you can kick off
your shoes and do some grounding or something like that.
And I'm like, well, I don't think I can do that because
there's a lot of toxins and like chemicals all in the dirt and
everything. I mean, all the local fisheries
and wildlife are, are honestly all destroyed.
So it's just like, OK, I can't do that.
So I made it kind of intentional to go ahead and just do a
walkabout by myself. You know, I did some driving and
I did, I don't know, I just kind of drove off the beaten path, so
to speak. And I looked at like some areas
that looked like they hadn't really been touched just because
they're really, really hard to access.
So I pulled my Jeep over and I kind of made my way down and,
you know, was very careful not to like, you know, go into the
water or anything like that. But I did find a, a crushed
Oldsmobile, very classic car, but just completely smashed.
And I just had a feeling and I I, you know, I got down and I
looked and yeah, there there was, there was somebody in
there. So I had to report that.
But on my way back, you know, it being really, really hard to,
you know, access, I had to go around this bamboo forest and
there was a lot of loose stone and sediment.
And, you know, I was wearing pants and, you know, boots and
everything and had kind of slipped down trying to make my
way back up. And my foot slipped into the
water. And I didn't really think
anything of it. But the water had gotten into my
boot and sat there for the remainder of the day.
And I didn't really think much until the very next morning I
woke up and I had a huge lump on my back, which I didn't really
know what that was. And then my foot was all burned.
I showed up to breakfast in the morning over at Camp Miller and
I'd taken my shoes off because my foot was hurting really,
really bad. And all of a sudden I looked
down and it's just like completely melted and bubbled up
and everything. And it's just like, what is
that? What is that?
And everybody's just like, what happened?
And I'm like, I, I don't know. And the only thing I could think
of was, well, my foot slipped in the water and that was it.
So I ended up going out all the way out to Asheville, which is
like an hour away from where we're camped at, and spent the
entire day in the ER. They did a bunch of blood work
and all these things. And yeah, it turns out they in
the tox screen, I was bit by a brown recluse spider and there.
Was my. Lump about the size of 1/2 of a
golf ball on my back and they had to cut it open and like get
all the toxins out. They had to give me anti venom,
patch me up and then as far as my my foot goes, I had third
degree burns and have basically just spent the last week, week
and a half since that, you know, kind of changing out the, the
bandages and stuff like that. There's not a whole lot you can
do for it, but. So the burns, was that from the
spider? Are you saying what was the
burns? That's from the water when I.
So the the water and the ground itself is like desiccated.
It's yes, spoiled. It's that's crazy.
And you had a spider bite at the same time.
That's that's two very unpleasant things at the same
time. Did it feel?
How did that affect your your like mindset?
Your your motivation? Your spirit?
Honestly, it kind of fired me up even more.
There was a lot of people at camp that were just like, hey,
you need to rest, you need to take care of yourself.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no, like that.
No, I, I take it as like, you know, an attack from the enemy
basically saying that you're over the target and you need to
stop. No, I refuse.
So I kind of be a little bit stubborn like that.
I'll follow the father. I kind of deny the opposer as
much as I can so. Amen, brother.
Amen. That's right.
So. All right.
I can already see the emails I'm getting about how I talk too
much, so I'm going to let you guys take it for a little bit.
Well, this is a great fellowship, guys.
And just the feeling of the love that Aaron described and when he
came and Rod connected us and I just happened to have moved here
from Hawaii a few years back and it was like, man, this is a real
war. This area is full of witches,
darkness, it's a battlefield. And this hurricane was just a
manifestation. I think of that.
But then, like you're saying, here come the warriors, the
fellowship. You know, it's like, here's
Aragorn and there's Legolas when you can have my bow.
And then there's and you know, that's how it feels this
meeting. And I want to just read this
really quick. A friend loveth at all times,
and a brother is born for adversity.
So here's a chance for men to rise and like Aaron to be brave
and for Rod and Basil and Gans to lend their mic.
And this is Johnny McMahon's microphone.
The fringe radionetwork.com. We have an app now there's it's
all home grown. I mean, this desk, the studio
was donated built somehow the donations that we get on on my
show. And it's just like, how are we
still here doing this? And it's, it's not like we're
really successful at, we think, but then we're, this is a prayer
base where I'm broadcasting from and we're having deliverances
regularly and we're finding out the corruption of the churches.
Maybe Aaron wants to mention too, 'cause you saw like
directly and we're having it here in Waynesville too.
Just vile religious spirits manifesting.
It's like you got the witches, you got the warlocks, you got
the orcs, you got the terminators, you got the AI, you
got the media, you got the FEMA. And then you got the on top of
all that you've got like Saruman, the white YouTube.
He's like, we must join with Sauron.
Why? You just kind of like, you know,
that's how it feels. It's like, no, not that church
tell us that story. Just go ahead.
Sorry, I'm not I'm. Not so just so just for clarity,
just for our people. I know you mentioned it before
the show, but you're you're actually in the area as well.
You're there where? In South Carolina?
This is North Carolina, right on the border of Tennessee.
Got it. OK.
Yeah. All right.
Yeah, you're there too, man. Behind it and behind.
Totally smooth. We were about an hour from Aaron
and where where I'm doing this operation is is separate, but
we're also having huge ministries come through here and
just the miracles are off the charts and like meeting scout
teams from EMIC Eagle Mountain Church in Houston, TX.
They're about to send 25 guys huge dinner on on Thanksgiving
at the veterans, the VFW, the veterans of foreign wars and
just love bomb. I mean, guys get into that
discipleship thing and serve God and forsake all you got stuff.
Just throw it on the apostles feet and just go like this is
your chance. So we're here.
I'm working with soldiers and I would say what I do is more of
like assisting the people that are front lines as sisters, as
sisters. That sounds so feminine, the.
Support unit bro. Yeah, and you guys are obviously
bigger warriors of the Internet and we need you to keep this
story pushed out cuz it's like all the other stuff is going to
distract people. We had 15 people apparently die
from hypothermia in one night just a few nights ago.
So and, and FEMA says, oh, only 100 people died.
Meanwhile, people are in tears saying, well, we had a pile of
bodies in this rubble and FEMA to leave and then we came back
and then the whole thing was on fire.
So it's just like they're trying to demoralize us.
But the love of the brotherhood and the and the fighters and the
warriors men, if anybody wants to volunteer or send cash to
those bases, you know, just please.
Yeah. I.
Apologize. I apologize for interrupting
your question. It was a great question.
I want to know about it. So, Aaron, the, you know, we
heard about these sort of factions who are all, you know,
we heard about the, the, the caravans that got turned away
from the, by the sheriff or the helicopter pilot guy or
whatever, all sorts of different things.
But Mike makes a great point about sort of also the spiritual
factions, the the spiritual powers and residents in the
area. Can you tell us a little bit
about what that atmosphere is like?
Yeah, there's a lot of disruptors.
I think what Michael is referring to is there was a food
cart that had been right next to the church for about about a
month after, you know, the storm and really nice lady from out my
way actually. But they had a church basically
donate a lot of food and like a huge food truck.
And they were feeding people that were coming down from the
mountains over the last month. And when I first got there, they
were just like, oh, yeah, we're packing up, you know, because
they don't want us here anymore. I'm like, who doesn't want you
here anymore? They're like the church.
And I'm like that church right there, Like the church got
there. The church didn't want it.
And this church specifically, and forgive me, I'm not trying
to bash the church here, but I do want to kind of identify, you
know, what the church is. It's not the four walls.
It's it's the body of Christ. It's followers of Christ, right.
So these people ended up leaving.
I brought a grill and then I went to into town and I bought
like a bunch of burgers and hot dogs.
And I actually had like a whole cooler full of fresh fish that
was actually given to me from the local seafood place here in
town. And just like, hey, you know,
I'll feed some people. I'm, I'm equipped for this, you
know, So I started cooking and a bunch of people were coming down
from the mountains and stuff. And all of a sudden some guy
came up to me and was just like, did you get approval for that?
I'm like, for what they're like for cooking on church property.
And I'm like, I brought a grill and I bought all this food.
Like, people are hungry. People lost everything.
I don't see what the problem is. And this guy just kept pressing
me, right? And I'm just like, are you
hungry? You know, he's just like, well,
I just want to make sure that you're not stepping in on
anybody's toes. And I'm just like, like who?
He's like, I don't know, like maybe the Deacon of the church.
And I'm like Deacon of the church.
He's like, I'm the Deacon of the church.
You didn't ask for permission to cook for people.
I'm like, well, hi, Deacon, how's it going?
Like, are you hungry? Is it OK if I cook for people?
And he's just like, well, you know, I'd, I'd really like for
you to like, you know, go through the right processes and
stuff and ask for permission before you just kind of run the
show. And I'm like, I'm not trying to
step on anybody's toes. I'm just trying to fill, you
know, people. He's like, well, I guess it's
OK. And I'm like, all right, well,
thank you, you know, and this guy just gave like a bunch of
lash backs. So Fast forward to me meeting
with Camp Miller, and my whole goal was to bring these two
camps together, the church and Camp Miller.
So when I met everybody at Camp Miller, I saw the love being
spread. I saw just the operation that
was being ran, you know, to a tee.
And it's just like, you know, just like this, like we got to
collaborate. We got to get these two teams
together, you know, because you've got the church that's
afraid of Camp Miller. Camp Miller's like what?
We'd love to help the church, but the church doesn't want us
to help. And it's just like, no, no, no,
I got so much pushback from this Deacon when he found out what I
was trying to do. A couple days later, he came up
and talked to me again. And he's like, whatever you're
doing, you need to stop. And I'm like, can I ask you a
question? Like why?
Why? He's just like, well, you know,
it's just how we operate around here.
And like, you know, we don't want to be involved with the
militia or anything like that. They got their their church
built. They actually started
construction before the storm, and I do have a construction
background. So when I first got there, they
had asked me to kind of volunteer my time helping the
church. And I did that for a couple
hours until I realized that like, okay, no, they've got it.
There's other more important things to go out and do to help
people and not just build this church.
And when I found out that it was already in the remodeling phase
beforehand. And the fact that they're
actually trying to get everything off church property
because we've got like a, a laundry facility, bathrooms, and
then like a huge storage shed that was built right next to the
church that has a bunch of clothes and food and all these
things that people are coming down that have nothing and
they're just trying to force all this stuff off.
And it's just like, I can't get behind that.
I I really, really, truly can't. And yet somebody came and talked
to me and they were just like, you handled yourself really,
really well. I'm like, what do you mean?
They're like, yeah, the Deacon's trying to get rid of you.
And I, I don't think you allowed him to have like, you know, an
opportunity to be able to get rid of you because you handled
yourself with grace. You know, I'm just like, I kind
of kind of felt that. I kind of felt like he was
trying to get a rise out of me so that way he could be like,
no, away with you, you know, And I just didn't really take the
bait. And yeah, I'll be heading back
on on Friday. I will be working with Camp
Miller primarily, but I will be going back and forth.
And, you know, there's a lot of good people that are involved in
that church. It's just a lot of people in
leadership, which I'm coming to kind of realize more and more
nowadays is a lot of these people that are, you know, in
positions of authority with the church kind of abuse and, you
know, their power and kind of miss the bigger picture, you
know, right. You know, I, I, I see an
interesting thing reflected. I heard a quote recently and
maybe I'm I'm going to paraphrase it.
I'm not going to have it perfect.
And I don't know, it's not the most sort of insightful quote,
but I think it's interesting to put in the context of what
you're saying here is that bureaucracy is not bureaucracy
is concerned with process, not outcome.
So the very spirit of bureaucracy, which of course we
commonly think of in, you know, the governments or law
enforcement or the courts or even organizations like
nonprofits. And again, for better or for
worse, bureaucracy within the church, within the sort of a
church establishments all across the world, bureaucracy is like a
can be a dominant spirit. And it's very difficult, I think
for guys like us, even at our most gracious and our most good
intentions, sort of attitudes to let the spirit of bureaucracy be
more concerned with process than with outcome.
And, you know, of course, we see this concept playing out in all
sorts of different ways. It explains 90% of the sort of
government, or it's at least the excuse for 90% of government
ineptitude or government failures.
It's just always a matter of bureaucracy.
This. They didn't go through the right
channels. They didn't send the paperwork.
Don't even get me started on, you know, paperwork as a form of
magic. I mean an oppressive magical
force that runs every bureaucracy that we have on
earth. I mean the top bringing the
written word as the form of magic to the Egyptian kings,
then, you know, evolving into Babylonian money magic, and now
our own bureaucracy. The mundanity, the the, the
absolute insufferable sort of boringness that is at the heart
not a side effect. It is the feature of bureaucracy
is this sort of boring, mind numbing process.
And if the process doesn't happen, it doesn't matter what
the outcome is. It's about the process.
And this is a great example of times.
There are many times in life when this is true, but in
moments of destruction and sorrow and disaster, process
doesn't feel as important to real human beings.
Like to an actual human. The the outcome is affecting
real human beings, the boots on the ground.
Real human beings outcome is primary, but when bureaucracy,
bureaucracy as a, as an entity, you know, if you think about it
as a spiritual entity or a principality whose primary
operating doctrine is process and, and paperwork and you know,
this sort of ancient magic of disruption of outcome.
It's like the number one horrible thing you we hear about
this entire thing. It's the thing that kept people
away. It's the thing that kept the,
you know, got people arrested for helping out and it's Amen.
You know, it's unfortunately, if you have any desire at all to
sort of navigate empire, which is, you know, in the society
that the structure of our society today.
You know, you think about going to the DMV, you think about
getting licenses, permits, stuff like this.
It's required to navigate the empire, but in order to navigate
the empire on the empire's rules, it requires submitting
yourself to this bureaucratic sort of occult principle.
And that's what I think is so in a, in such a deep level that
people might not even be cognizant of.
That's why the boots on the ground activities from the boots
on the ground dudes and and dudettes is such a revolutionary
idea. It inspires the human heart
because it is a rebellion against the sort of oppressive,
I don't know, the oppressive tyranny of bureaucracy, which
has everybody sort of enslaved in different ways these days.
But but to see the human heart explode like that, it's a really
godly thing. It's a really healing thing just
to witness it. And so I thank you for being a
sort of representative of that. And again, like I said, so many
people like to think that they would kick the tyranny and kick
the bureaucracy and head out there and do boots on the
ground. But the fact that so few have is
such a testament to such a testament to the power of of
that force. So I consider you a spiritual
revolutionary, a spiritual rebel, not just a, you know, a
physical helper in times of need.
So it sounds like your interaction with organizations
like the church there were sort of Hanford perhaps even
sabotaged by this occult principle of bureaucracy.
Did you find yourself finding any resistance from from others,
or was it primarily that that particular church?
No, just that particular church. And then obviously, you know,
before I showed up, FEMA in the government, which is why they do
open carryover at Camp Miller, because they don't want the
bureaucracy, They don't want the red tape.
They don't want, oh, hey, you have to be a part of this
government approved organization to be able to help these people.
Like there's like, no, we're just people helping people.
Stop. Yeah.
You know did. You did you find that you had, I
don't know, maybe missed out on some aid or something?
We heard the stories about FEMA passing up Trump supporting
houses for relief and things like that.
And again, I want to recognize that even though bureaucracy is,
is a tyrannical power, that there's still people in those
offices. You know, there may be the
office of a sheriff, but that sheriff is a human being with a
heart and a connection to God just as much as the rest of us.
Did you, did you have any interaction?
Not just interaction, but do you feel like maybe you lost support
or missed out on some support because of the way you're doing
things? No, in fact it actually
expanded. So we had these these 3 semi
trucks that were parked across the street from the church where
I was basically camped right down the road from Camp Miller.
And these things were absolutely like just packed full with
eaters, food, water, winter clothes, I mean, you name it,
propane tanks, everything, right?
And it was just sitting there and it's just like, this stuff's
not being distributed. People are like, you know, going
through and like just walking in just complete chaos.
And it's just like, there's no structure, there's no
organization or anything like that.
So I talked to one of the leaders over at Camp Miller and
was just like, this stuff was all donated from like, you know,
local churches and stuff and like even churches far and wide.
And this church isn't doing anything with it.
All they're doing is building their church.
They, they had a construction crew there every single day.
And it's just like, why don't you guys come over?
Let's take all this stuff over to Camp Miller and let's start
getting it out to people, you know, And I they, they brought
like, I don't know, I want to say like 10 different people,
couple flatbed trailers and stuff.
And we took as much as we could over to Camp Miller.
And then I remember getting ready to make a fire late at
night and I saw like a piece of cardboard that was in one of the
semi trucks and it was from the Deacon.
And it said anybody that needs anything or whatever, like come
talk to the church. We are not affiliated with Camp
Miller. Thank you.
And I just remember smiling just being like, OK, they're trying
to make it seem like we're stealing stuff.
No, we're just taking it down the road to a group that is
actually capable of passing this stuff out.
I mean, like, we've got logs and logs and logs of people, their
names, their numbers, their location, what they are in need
of. And we are literally taking side
by sides and like, you know, my Jeep up mountains and stuff to
try to distribute this stuff to the people in need.
And then you've got this church that is upset about that.
Maybe it's because they want recognition.
They want I I don't know. Bureaucracy, man, they got
exactly got people paying attention to their paperwork.
Well, let me say this, Aaron. You did mention, you know, there
was Texas Rangers that came in on horseback that were going
places where you couldn't get the side by side in the Jeeps,
right? Let's even talk a little bit
about that. And then some of these
highlights, just neighbors helping their neighbors.
At one point in time, there was like suicide messages that were
found older couples that for like weeks on end just had no
contact with the outside world that are up in these these
pathways, right? I mean, the ranging stories, I
know it's a lot to put on you right now because we're doing
this interview. You have your notes, you're
fresh, kind of out of the territory, actually getting
ready to go back in after your leg heals.
But I want to hit at least two of these highlights.
Texas Rangers come in on horseback, right?
And then one or two testimonies, dude, that are just heartfelt,
like neighbors are rescuing neighbors.
That's the body of Christ at this point.
I think we're starting to see very clearly here what's
happening. Yeah.
So here's kind of like the list that we're using to operate,
just like your address, your name, all these things, what you
need done. A lot of them were a lot more
extensive than others. But yes, no, there were some
Cowboys and stuff that came into town with donkeys to be able to
get up these, these trails that were literally like just
completely destroyed. And you've got people that live
on top of mountains that can't get down from their house.
I mean, there was people that literally when I got there, it
was their first time having a warm meal and I don't know,
three weeks, 4 weeks, something like that and couldn't get out
of their house, didn't know what was going on with their
neighbors. There's a lot of elderly people
in that community in this specific valley.
But yeah, no, they, they went up these mountains and just would
go from house to house and deliver medication and food and
clothes and do very, very similar things like this.
Like, hey, what do you need? And a lot of these people are
just like, you know, I'm good, I'm good.
And it's just like, OK, well, no, no, no, you're not.
Take this and this not just for a day, but at least a week, if
not more. And then do you have like a
neighbor that you know, around this area that have you talked
to them? And then they would just go from
that house to that house and just farther up the mountain and
just going out of their way to like just find people, you know,
because there's, there was a lot of people that felt like they
got left behind. And you just have the body of
Christ like people helping people and just trying to find
people and help them. I heard story after story.
Mystique is one that definitely comes to mind.
She moved from Miami, her and her husband, and they've got
three beautiful children. And she had told me
specifically, you know, like I moved to the mountains to get
away from Florida and away from all the Hurricanes.
And I literally just moved here last year.
And she showed me videos. Her house was just completely
swept away from a big mudslide. They're able to get out last
minute. And she just, I remember her
breaking down. Just I never thought in a
million years that this would even be a thing.
You know, we live in the mountains and we heard that
there was like a hurricane coming.
And it's just like there was no warning.
There was no nothing. You know, we not even allowed to
have flood insurance here. It's it's an afterthought.
You don't even think about it. So when this happened,
especially in the mountains in the mud slides and everything
and just these rivers not being able to handle that much rain
that was just sitting on top of them for that long.
I mean, like I said, the sheer destruction.
But they would come every single day.
They would cook or have like two or three meals and I brought
like a little Chipo game and like, you know, my, I don't know
my golf clubs and like, you know, some wiffle ball bats and
stuff just because I kind of figured, you know what, like
these kids probably need to have a little bit of time to have a
little bit of joy. And that was honestly one of the
biggest things, like just people having a warm meal, being able
to hit a couple golf balls, hit a couple wiffle balls and just
seeing that joyous spirit again. It meant more than anything.
These people just lost their home and it's almost like they
forgot about it for a moment, you know, and just the amount of
love and just fellowship and it's amazing, absolutely
amazing. So definitely one of the most
impactful testimonies that, you know, I had gathered.
There's, there's honestly so many.
I could spend hours talking about all these testimonies,
very, very heartfelt and just when people rise up to help
people. Yes.
Man it, it directs people towards God.
I remember saying this. I prayed for it every single
opportunity I got to pray for somebody.
Nobody ever rejected if I asked, like, can I pray for you?
Nobody ever said no. You know how many times I heard
left versus right, black versus white, any of these things when
I was there, you know, the election, anything, you know,
Republican versus Democrat, zero.
It was all just about, wow, there's so much love here.
That's it. I mean like, honestly.
If I could, yeah, this love. Never underestimate the power of
love. And that's exactly what I saw,
felt experienced. And I can't wait to get more so.
Bro, hearing that it's it explains to me why I'm not
hearing anything else in the media about it.
I mean, it's disasters and emergencies are always so sad
and always so impactful, but it is an opportunity for the human
spirit to connect around what matters the absolute most.
And like you said, loving one another, loving God, God's love
moving through US. And that is, that is not a
message that the enemy wants to get out there.
You know, in amongst the reports of nuclear missiles and, you
know, the fascist dictator coming to take office and all
the madness that the theater that is this world that we live
in, it's no wonder. Man, so can I.
Can I butt in and ask you? Because Canary Cry Radio has
always been a beam of happiness and light heralding this madness
and fear. And so how are you guys handling
that, if you don't mind me? Like and gone.
Soon I was. I was going.
On the edge, bro. Yeah, we are on the edge.
We're on the edge and we're laughing like hyenas, you know,
really psychotically or, you know, to keep it light hearted.
I was just going to say that, you know, one of the, the things
that really made the Christian faith in general, it was clear
for me because I didn't grow up in the church.
So my perception of the church was very different.
I think I talked about that with Rod last time I was on.
So when I started to experience people relationships and
experience God's love through those relationships, through
those people, it was a whole different level.
So I've always been very heady and I, I've always been very
intellectual and I like facts and I, you know, I dig into the,
the data and, and that's just how my brain works.
But that, that, that is all there for foundation,
foundational purposes, at least for me, for people like me,
maybe. But the ultimate utility of the
church is God's love. And so when the love is, you
know, what you're doing there, Aaron, is a greater form of
evangelism, just you being there and, and helping people and, you
know, just being that light is probably more impactful in terms
of spreading the gospel. Then yes, I can make with some
crazy, you know, perfect intellectual argument about why
God exists or something, you know, so there are levels to
this and and I just appreciate what you're doing it.
It takes a lot of courage to get out there.
And I'm not fully up to speed on everything going on this other
side of the coast. I'm in the Newsome bubble.
We're just trying to fight off Democrats over here or
something. I don't know what's going on in
California, but but I, I just, you know, poking around while
you guys were chatting and listening in, it seems like the
media doesn't want to report on any of this stuff, which is
interesting because when I was growing up, the news always had
like one or two feel good stories.
And it seems like that can be part of uplifting everybody in
that area who's looking for some kind of help, some kind of hope,
you know, if they have access to TV or news or something, just be
like, hey, if there's people out here helping out, maybe, maybe,
you know, if they're stuck in a situation, they can get helped
out. But as I was kind of clicking
around and looking for some articles, Basil, I, I, I found
an article about the SBA. So I don't know if you want to
go into, but it's, I, I did see that today.
The SBA offered disaster relief loans for Debbie, not even for
Helene. It was for Debbie, which I
thought was kind of interesting. And and the article states that
the SBA cannot provide disaster loans to agricultural producers,
farmers and ranchers apart from aquaculture enterprises.
So I don't even know what that means.
I don't know all. That means hydroponic weed
growing operations or something. That's what I'm saying, like
only hydroponic farms are able to get the loans what everybody
else can. I don't know what's happening,
but it seems like there is a a clear, I mean, we can call it a
there's a narrative battle happening with in terms of the
the rest of the population seeing what's happening there.
And then there's, you know, boots on the ground.
It seems like there is a true hey, government has this we, we,
we're going to do it our way as opposed to people just showing
up and doing it. And that's, you know, that that
and to your story, Aaron, about meeting the beacon of the
church. I can understand the church
beacon or church leader or pastor or something feeling very
protective over their herd, you know, and like, Hey, I don't
necessarily want to venture out or whatever, but it's just
interesting how that being a church, you know, we can all be
sort of blinded by our own circumstances, you know, when
they're whenever somebody is coming with the love of Christ
and trying to provide something. So I thought that was
interesting. But what what's the situation
currently? So are there still people like,
you know, looking for a place to sleep, a place to live for food?
Or are there missing people like I'm, I'm completely in the dark
in terms of the current status. There's still a lot of missing
people. OK.
It is getting a lot colder. Michael, you said that there was
15 people confirmed that died from hypothermia recently.
It's. It's not come.
I don't have the source on that except for Jody Halsted, who
we've been working together with in the space in Waynesville, who
is just on the phone all day and he couldn't remember which
report it was. But it's pretty intense like
this. It's kind of just starting
because it's getting cold like this week, like this is going to
be intense. And it's not like it's the North
Pole, but it's a rainforest. So it's wet cold.
You know, you get it kind of gets under your skin and under
your clothes and then you're like, man, I'm really not
feeling too good. And we're we're praying they're
very there's these are proud mountain folk, as I don't think
you said Easton, we interviewed said he was out doing relief and
part of the Cajun Navy. And he said it's it's just so
hard to get help to these people that are like, well, I can do
it. I lived here.
My family's about $200. You're not doing so much.
And it's like, no, take this generator.
All right, You know, I just few miles to bring this to you.
And he was with the donkey team that Aaron mentioned.
So that was cool to. Happen to a more resilient
people those Appalachians. Too.
It's very Americana, I have to say.
Like, these are, these are tough, Ruddy people out here,
Yeah. So.
We've got enough. Oh, I'm sorry.
Go. Ahead.
No, no, no. Please go.
We've got enough supplies being donated to temporarily help
people out. We've got enough food, enough
clothes and stuff like that. We are.
It's ever changing. So we're kind of transitioning
to the phase where, OK, now we need to go fight through that
red tape and start finding land, land and stuff for people.
Because there's a lot of people you talk about like, you know,
the Appalachian folk that refuse to take government assistance
and do loans and stuff. They they read the fine print
and they see that that, you know, they have to give up
collateral. They see, you know, the
discrepancies and stuff and just the hoodwinked, you know,
generation and stuff. You know, it's kind of rising up
and fighting back, I think. But you know, it getting a lot
colder and stuff now we do need to start having more people like
Michael and all these other people just being able to throw
whatever they can to actually, I don't know, offer people, you
know, at least a somewhat like longer solution.
You know, like these people don't have homes.
You know, these people are camped out in tents.
These people are staying with neighbors that are living in
homes that are literally like, you know, growing mold and stuff
because there was literally sitting water and chemicals all
in their house and stuff. And a lot of people are getting
sick. A lot of people are.
Yeah, We actually didn't have any doctors.
That was another thing that happened very randomly where
there was a couple doctors that were traveling from Texas and
just running into them who have Molly.
Yeah. Molly and her group, they've
been run out of several different camps where FEMA and
the government basically said like, no, no, no, no.
They're trying to offer like a little bit of holistic medicine
and they didn't want to be attached to any of these
government entities or FEMA or anything like that.
So she was actually very, very careful in, you know, kind of
interviewing me and making sure that, like, you know, I wasn't
involved in the government or something.
And I, I'd be able to like, you know, have them come out to Camp
Miller and not have the government find out about them.
So now we have 12 doctors in that little valley that are
going around and like trying to help people out.
And anybody that needed medical assistance, they're literally
going out. They had a side by side that was
donated to them to be able to go up and down mountains and stuff
to go do house calls, you know, and offer medicine and
everything. It's incredible.
That that is crazy. My goodness, man.
You know, in the same way that I just keep getting, sorry, I keep
getting a little heady with the spiritual stuff.
But I again, I'm thinking of like the the different powers
that work here. And kind of in the same way that
that money begets money, like at its best, capital begets more
capital, like it's supposed to generate itself.
You know, it's in the same way love begets more love in that
way. And I think about, man, why?
Why are we not, if not on the nightly news, because who cares?
Who needs cable news? But at least like whatever,
going down the timeline on Twitter, why am I not seeing
story after story after story of resilience and love and, and you
know, these the types of things that you're doing this, this
amazing comeback story, this, this, these pieces of news that
could bring just a little, just a little bit of hope.
Because the more that that's around, the more people hear
about it, the more it can generate more love.
I mean, among other things. And it's, it's hard not to get
frustrated with the, you know, the fact that broadcasting that
love that goodness, that kind of stuff, whether it's on cable or
whether it's even just in the timeline, the algorithms is such
a distraction from it's, it's almost like an impurity, a self
populating impurity in the sort of fear based population control
recipe. You know, you can't even let
like a little bit of it get in there because it'll spoil the
whole dark evil cake or something.
And so I hope that this is an opportunity for people to
understand what's going on and, and take whatever opportunity
that means for them to kind of spread, spread that love.
You know, I think there's going to be people wondering, and I
would wonder too. You mentioned people living
basically homeless and intense and in horrible conditions.
And I know for a fact there's going to be people out there
going just like, well, why don't they go?
Why don't they go to the next state over?
Why don't they move? Why don't they, you know,
because it seems I just on its face, I could, I could see the
response of like, OK, it's horrible there.
Why can't they just catch a ride out to wherever, you know, even
the next town over where they're outside of the physical
apocalypse? What what's kind of the what's
the feeling there? What would you say to people who
are wondering now? It's a lot more complex than
that. I think it's really easy for
people outside looking in be able to say like, oh, hey, why
don't you just go to the next town over and stuff.
What people don't realize is a lot of these people have lived
their, their entire lives, their, you know, I don't know,
generation after generation after generation.
And a lot of them have property that has been destroyed and it's
very, very valuable. And they want to see to it that
like, you know, they don't lose it.
It's very complex. You can't just pack up and
leave. You're going to leave everything
behind and you're going to lose everything.
So it's a lot more complex than that.
Or broad multi layered, right? I don't know.
I mean, I guess put yourself in their situation.
I mean, like, how easy would it be for you guys to go ahead and
just uproot your entire life and start all over again, especially
with like, you know, having a wife or children and friends and
neighbors. And you know, that's the.
PTSD, right? So you got to think people are
literally working through PTSD. We're seeing a little bit of
like people come out of it from love being actionary, people
stepping in and you're seeing a little bit of humanity come back
because trauma in that place of fear, the way that that is that
it chains up the mind and your. Ability to to.
Think clearly is is pretty deep right and so how many people
lost family members in that region like Uncle Bob's dead
down in that ditch. We're not going anywhere until,
you know, we did this ditch out in the whole valley out and
whatever I mean, and then the whole generational thing and you
know guns. I really kind of wanted to ask
you, even with the spiritual environment, like as deep as you
guys go into this and as much of insight that you have, the
spiritual legalities over something like this, with all
the tug of war of principalities and powers, what would you do?
Like a 30,000 foot view on captivity, fear and then the
light of Christ trying to shine into that.
A face like the sun if I may. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, these principalities and powers have always been
described as territorial spirits.
So they've probably have certain jurisdiction over various
regions. And if, if there was some plan
or some desire for these principalities and powers to, I
don't know, change the landscape of the kind of people that live
in certain parts of the world, then it's entirely possible that
there were, you know, messaging that would come from the
spiritual realm to who knows what, what trickled down in
terms of the bureaucratic process or, or governments or,
or whatever. And, yeah, I mean, it's, it's I,
I see this and the people staying there in the resilience,
you know, on top of just, hey, this is my property.
This is generations, you know, maybe hundreds of years of my
family lying here, you know, taking care of this land.
Yeah, I can see them pushing. And I think we should, you know,
getting more fired up as I realized because I came into
this conversation again, not knowing fully the situation I
had. But yeah, I think we need to get
the the word out because at the very least, people praying for
those folks there, even if they don't even know that there's
people praying, could make a big difference in just preserving
the kind of people that are there that are trying to get
pushed out. You know, if we're looking at it
from that 30 foot or 30,000 foot spiritual perspective, it does
feel like that land, not just a land grab of but hey, let's try
to get these guys out of here. We'll send them a storm, send
them a whatever, send them government, you know, FEMA
papers that say we own this land now because it's a disaster
location or whatever. But if enough people are aware
of it through not just, you know, the awareness on social
media or people being loud on, on the Internet or something,
but beyond that with prayer, I think that that kind of thing
can be prevented. And that ultimately this is, you
know, every little conflict, every situation like this is a
microcosm of a bigger the entire war taking place.
These are little battles taking place.
So, you know, just highlighting the the current status of
everything and and letting people know what to pray for.
I think it can be very powerful, important.
No, it's huge. It's huge.
I mean, you think about the spiritual significance of people
standing their ground in that place.
They have a spiritual connection, their familial
connection, their presence. There is a claim spiritually
into the land that it belongs to Americans.
It doesn't belong to America. It belongs to people, children
of God, their presence standing their ground from principalities
and powers. And just because I know we'll
have a, a, a various people of various sort of ways of thinking
of this. You know when we say
principalities and powers and worldly governors.
If you go back to my favorite edition of that verse, you know
that you could think of that literally.
You could think of that metaphorically, you could think
of that allegorically, because it is all of that.
I mean, it's all like you talk about the the corporate
principalities, the court, the spirit of American monopolistic
corporate power whose number one goal, stated goal and legal
responsibility is to extract as much wealth from the earth and
from people as possible. And you know, I don't need to
get into the whole conspiracy theory or whatever, but that's
very valuable and important land.
And it's very valuable and important in different ways to
different people to the corporate sort of dark spirits
that that rule obviously our society.
I mean, that's very valuable land in in capital and in
resources in, you know, it, it creates a new market for
extraction, not just from the ground, but from people as well.
And it's the people, the spiritual connection to the land
that these people are saying, no, this is mine.
I'm here, I don't care, I don't want to sell, I'm not going to
run. Those are the people who are
protecting God's creation in that area from, who knows,
possible absolute extortion by, by the corporate powers, the
principalities and powers. So you know, in a way people, of
course, they're, they're, they're, they're in pure
survival mode. They're not thinking in in ways
that somebody like us or like a listener maybe sitting on their
couch or making dinner in their warm home and their their food
that they have so much of or whatever.
And of course there's people who are not that lucky, but someone
there thinking like, oh, why don't they just go to a warm
house with food and stuff. You know, these are it's an
entirely different. I mean, honestly, spiritual
posture, these people are into, into recovery, protection,
survival in both in the physical and in the spiritual.
So I, I thank you for letting me process that out loud because
that I think that answers that question for me and I hope it
gains some insight for other people.
I was going to preach, preach, preach.
I was preaching. I was going to say that, you
know, people always ask me like, are we in the end times?
Are we in the end times? And obviously we are.
Every moment is closer to the return of Christ.
But there is an element that people don't consider enough,
which is our role in the unfolding of the end times.
And you know, if the church just like keeled over and was like,
you know, government, take a whatever, we just keeled over
and everything, I think the end times will come way faster, you
know, and so I there are there's something to be said about
actual action, you know, like pushing back against the
principalities and powers and what that looks like.
And for I think this is a great example because, you know, it
seems like whether you don't have to go down the rabbit hole
of, hey, the do the government's control the weather and did they
spin up a hurricane and try to mess things up?
I mean, you could do that, which is a fascinating conversation.
And I wouldn't doubt, you know, the the capabilities are there,
at least according to my research.
So that's one thing, but also how how do the people respond to
it? Because if it is, if, if it is
just like a hey, yeah, they're just too powerful.
We're just going to keel over and, yeah, let them take the
land, let them take the resources, and we'll move
somewhere else. Wow.
And start somewhere else. You know, if we push back, the
timeline of the end times can even change.
So, you know, this is just part of the things that we can be
expressing, thinking about and and supporting the folks there.
So, yeah, that's good stuff. Good stuff.
Yeah. Amen.
I haven't no posturing, right? I mean, like this is like the
body of Christ rising back up. You know, you have those amazing
documentaries, Age of deceit and you know, you were just talking
guys about, you know, why isn't, you know, this inspirational
like good things that are happening in the mountains?
Like why isn't that being broadcasted, right?
And it's just like, well, you know, here's another pun for
you. Age of deceit, right?
We got that age of defeat. They want us defeated.
They don't want all this good messaging and heavenly posturing
being spread around. They don't want they want
everybody to think that the time is nigh.
We lose no matter what we do. It's the end of times.
The government, they're too big, they're too strong that we
can't, we can't do it. There's nothing to do.
We're defeated, right? Yeah.
So they don't want this kind of messaging getting out there.
Yeah, I know I can. Agree with you there.
It's too. Powerful.
It's too powerful. Well, Michael Basham, so I kind
of want to ask with you being in the vicinity of the area, I
think it was last year around this time we had did that
broadcast talking about, you know, small town witches and
trolls literally trying to infiltrate every level of
government and do some really dark and gnarly things.
Well, now you know, we have guns kind of putting the the
spiritual, you know, twist on it like with the the
principalities, powers, rulers. We have boots on the ground.
We have Basil just really thinking deeper for us and and
proving this multi layered. How is all of this fitting in
with your experience from this, this slice of the Carolinas?
Like what what is going through your mind?
What is your experiences right now?
Help me understand what it's like where your base is.
One word revolution. Wait, No 2 words.
Revival, revolution and the word of God in our mouths.
Not religion, not tradition. There's poverty in these
mountains. They're not ready for all the
witches. Asheville is like hell on earth.
When you go there, if you have any spiritual sensitivity and
you're a Christian, it's like a zombie movie.
It's like Resident Evil Village. It's really like that.
And we were praying. We have prophecies in this
prayer team. The glory of God will come down
upon Waynesville from the heavens and extend out into all
the nations from this little tiny town.
That's how we how we operate and that water as sad as all these
stories are you're hearing guys, it's it's now you're seeing the
warriors rise. I'm seeing humility I'm seeing
people are open to the word whereas before you people are
just like I got out of my church over there.
Now they're coming to like heavy duty Bible studies.
I mean, we're, we're word freaks over here and you guys
listening, this is a call to action.
You need to get in the Bible and get that word in your life day
in and day out. Support Canary cry radio,
millennial mustard seed, fringe radio network teams.
We've got let's get jacked up as saying hi.
By the way, the boys from there. There's all these teams that
were coming together and we love each other, the love of the, the
unity of the brethren. But why do we do that?
Because we're all like into Trump or we hate corruption.
Mormons and Buddhists hate them. Corruption loved Trump.
Amazing. You know, Yeah.
I mean, this is the thing God's about to do something here and
he is doing it. And it's going to be pray for
us. You're going to see the church
people freak out. I have a church that they're
guarding this guy that's he's on investigation for child
grooming. And the church kicked out his
his soon to be ex-wife because she wouldn't honor him.
What other groomers are in that church?
There's this huge mega church, middle of nowhere.
It's like, where do they get the money?
What's going on here? So there's a lot of filthiness.
I was involved in politics last year and little Michael Basham
with this little podcast thing, except fringe radio network's
big, but they asked me to do their media.
So I got to see first hand witches coming out of the
woodwork publicly curse this campaign, all the bigoted Trump
people. And I was like, man, there's
like, this is a conservative, beautiful little mountain town
and it's just crawling with insane communists, organized,
funded, bringing in homeless people by the busload.
And the local people rose up and they it was Team Waynesville.
You can listen to the podcast from a year ago, exactly a year
ago. So it's been amazing, you know?
Spiritual Insurgency Man is so interesting and you guys are
just like right there on it. Gonz is going to represent he
and I in another call that he needs to take, but I'll have
another 1020 minutes and yeah, this is work for you.
Thank you guys appreciate you guys letting me be here and keep
me in keep me in keep yeah stay in touch with me.
I need. I want to know everything going
on. I did want to play this because
I I feel this ISO. Let's invite some dudes over in
fellowship tonight. That's that's what.
It is right here. Guns, man, It's it's always an
honor that's. Pretty good.
Somebody's been working on their, their Japanese there, you
know, that's just. Japanese my entire life for
this. I've been working on Tagalog.
No one else I know that is Americanized that also is
interested in learning Tagalog. So that leaves me and my wife.
Yeah, you can go to to the Philippines.
You'll you'll brew in that place, Yeah.
Yeah, well, I mean, there's, there's a lot of meekness there
that will roll from those islands at some point, just like
many of the places, man. And you know, Gans, I just want
to thank you. I know you're cutting out to go
represent Canary Cry somewhere else, man.
And I just want to bless you and just say, yes, man, you're,
you're a giant in the spirit. And I don't say that to puff
your head up. I say that to say you have
rippled out. There's a a scripture in Hebrews
that says cast not away your confidence, which has great
recompense of reward. Amen and.
I'll just leave you with that. So we talk again, which I hope,
praise God is soon. Yeah, thank you.
Appreciate it. And yeah, stay in touch.
God bless you guys. See you again.
Bless you. OK, now that dad's out of here,
we can really talk about it. The age of deceit stuff is is
legendary, right? And and your guys shows are just
legendary. And then even with Michael
Basham and just the background there and what we started out
talking about this cloak of love over all of this.
And then we have the willingness of a guy like Aaron.
I think he landed at blurry creatures originally, right?
You listened through that. Somehow you got the prophecy
watchers. And then I think you talked
about this on one of the recordings on the mustard seed.
But then you're like, then I found the millennial mustard
seed, right? And now God is slingshotting you
out into a place where we're collaborating with the people
that you originally started listening to.
You're acting on behalf of your faith and now you're coming back
and reporting to some of these groups.
And I'm just like watching it like this is there's interesting
anointing on this. This is not just like you can't
make this up. We couldn't plan this.
This is like there's an anointing on this.
It's it's pretty powerful stuff. It's.
Incredible. You know, and it's, I think it
mirrors the situation with you going out to North Carolina as
well. This is going to be, this might
be a little laborious, but let me see if I can get us through
it. You know, lots of people feel
called to go out and help, but very few do.
But anybody who does make the decision and move their feet in
the direction that their mind or their heart wants them to go can
do it. It's not as it it, there's no
gate. I mean, I there's various
versions of a gatekeeper or whatever, but if somebody wants
to do it and they want to do it enough that they take the
actions to do it, they can do it.
They can go be that warrior of light in those positions.
They can experience the love that is generated when people
help each other. They of course, boots on the
ground, meeting needs that are forgotten by so many others.
And all it takes is someone to not just want to go, but then
boom, tie your shoes and go. And in a similar way, and I've
always kind of, I've never described it this way, but when
it comes to the information part of the spiritual warfare, which
you know, those of us who do podcasts or or videos or
whatever live streams, whatever it is, I mean, that's what it
is. So you're the sort of
information brigade. And in this five fifth
generation warfare, like that's the front lines in a lot of
ways, considering that the minds and spirits of civilians are the
primary target of 5th generational warfare, even
between geopolitical rivals. And so I say the same thing when
people, it has been an absolute joy and pleasure to watch people
rise up with their voices and participate in the, the battles
and the, the warfare using their minds and their hearts and the
spirit that God, God gives them. And, and in the same way that
somebody can just choose to stand up and walk and be the
hands and feet of God, there's you can also choose and walk.
And if you move in the direction, I won't say that
you're necessarily the mouth of God, because that has other
connotations, but you can maybe be the megaphone for what, for
the message that God wants to get out there.
You can be the the microphone, the tool through which God's
will is done in certain areas of reality here.
And it's really is how it is. And I think a lot of us have
this experience where anybody out there who has something to
say, anybody out there who wants to participate, wants to
participate in what God is doing on the Internet, in the
information space, they can do it.
And in the same way, there's millions of people who want to
do it, but they don't tie up their boots, plug in their
microphone and actually do it. And I want this to be an example
of how accessible participation is.
It is not chosen for a few special people.
The only the only obstacle to participation is is your own
shoe tying ability. And so Aaron, it's so fun to
hear your story, not only of your your physical work out of
South Carolina, but also this sort of 5th generational
spiritual work of getting the message out there.
And it sounds like Rod, you are a primary motivation for him to
do that and maybe even a little bit of a mentor in that way.
And that's an incredible, it's an incredible example of anybody
out there listening right now. Now look, there's a bad way.
There's a it at my worst of which, praise God, I'm not at my
worst every day, but it is often at my worst.
I think to myself, and I say out loud to whoever will listen, you
think you can do better. You think you could do a better
podcast. Go start a podcast.
Go do your own podcast. I want you to do it.
That's, that's in the, you know, when I'm not at my best on a
certain day, but when I am at my best, go participate in the 5th
generation award, go start a podcast and you know, go do it.
And you don't even, you know, starting is another thing.
Starting is a little bit more difficult, but when you just
participate, you show up, you get in contact, you make it a
habit. You know, I will say a lot of
people we, we do, there are a number of people out there who
will send one e-mail and it gets buried and they, they get sort
of upset that they didn't hear back.
And then that ends their possible career and podcasting.
And that's, that's too bad. But it's really for those who
tie their laces and take step by step by step and moving in the
direction of what God is doing. And so Aaron, you're a great
example of that in both ways. You're like some sort of, you
know, 5th generational paratrooper, you know, all the
multi domain dominance here. So very, very impressed and
thank you so much for getting the information out that you
have been getting out. Yeah, No thank you.
Like I said, I, I, I see where you're going with this and I, I
just kind of want to piggyback off of that.
So for anybody that thinks that you're not capable of like going
out and doing good things or being spirit LED, just listen
because God talks to you in his own way, right?
It could be through a dream, it could be through your
subconscious, whatever, you know, it could be something
very, very intentional as well. And you know, like when I had
that moment, you know, like I had that choice, you know, it's
just like, what am I going to do?
I want to go out there, what, what does Aaron want?
What does God want? And I, I think it really just
has to do with like kind of turning it off for a second and
not thinking about like, you know, what's comfortable for
you, You know, what God's calling you and leading you in
this way. And like there's that we talked
about this rod, right? That free will, right?
God gave me free will. He showed me clearly that he
wanted me to go out there and that there was something greater
happening. And I had that free will to be,
you know, answer the call yes or no.
And honestly, when you follow God and you're led by the
Spirit, he does amazing things. Again, this has been the most
incredible experience. Everything.
I mean, I think there's no words to really kind of explain the
Spirit, but when you know, you know, and this conversation
happening right now, this has nothing to do with me.
This has nothing to do with Rod. This has nothing to do with
Michael or Basil. This is the Spirit bringing
everybody together and yes, glorifying God.
Yeah, Amen man, Amen. Well, I hope that people do take
some inspiration from this and whatever God is pulling them
towards, and I mean, not to be forgotten, Michael, you're out
there. You're still boots on the
ground, buddy. You're there, you're making it
happen. Was this?
Possible. You're you're doing my.
My highlight was being on the On Your Conspiracy show from
Leicester. Wow, it's like the Joyce piracy
theory. Joyce piracy?
Yes Sir, that's the highlight of my whole journey here on
Internet Battle World. You know, what I love about that
is you were the last episode that I did before I stopped
doing episodes for a while. So like the first, the very
first episode people would come across for years was yours.
And I believe if I remember correctly, the title of yours is
TJT versus Michael in quotation marks.
I joined a hippie sex cult or something like that.
Forget what it is. So it really gave a very unique
first impression to the show for a very long time, which I
appreciate. No, but this is very powerful.
This is extremely powerful being here with you guys and Rod man,
you just keep trucking along. I'm very impressed, man.
I mean, there's we've had plenty of contact with a lot of great
guys and gals who are are doing the work, putting out the
episodes, scheduling the things, doing it, doing it.
But it is a a day by day achievement to continue doing
that work as anybody who has ever tried to do a podcast and
do it consistently and do it well.
It starts as a fun idea, but then it very much becomes a
focus of your life and it has to, or else it doesn't happen.
Oh you, you have spoken the perfect word in the perfect
season of my life, so it's funny.
Praise me to He who speaketh through me.
I mean, feel like I'm. Going to start using that.
As we start to understand the body coming together and what
God is doing in this day and age.
Basil, I think he brought this up earlier on and actually had
an interview yesterday with Dan Duvall.
I think it's like the fifth time he's been on.
And he was even mentioning and paralleling what you said.
And it's like we can take this perspective where we just say
the end is coming. Look at the beast system, look
at the enemy, look, look how deep and crazy this satanic
ritual abuse is. And they've infiltrated all the
three letter agencies RAW. So I'm going to go hide under a
rock now or get my peanuts and my shotgun shells and hide in
the closet of my house. Or you can literally understand,
this is the perfect opportunity for the body of Christ to rise
and shine. Gross darkness will cover the
earth, but his glory will be seen risen upon you, it says in
Isaiah 60. And I think about this and it's
like no man's worthy. We're all saved by grace through
faith in the one name that's above every name.
But there's the prophetic that that's like circumpunct him,
like it repeats itself through the ages.
And we see the spirit of Joshua and Caleb and David where in the
midst of just being crushed and in the gutter, they're crying
out, saying, the Lord is my strong tower, right?
And I'm not going to relent. I'm not going to back off and it
doesn't mean go start a militia and and especially not some
hippie sex cold or do not do any of that stuff as Michael
disappears off the screen because I just gave him an open
rebuke. It's better than a head of love
Michael good timing. But you know when we start to
really understand the spirit that should be in the body of
Christ through what God has given us the the arsenal A5 fold
ministry. We have mouthpieces, we have
willing hands, we have willing feet.
We have people that have. A hidden skill set that has been
buried in the legalities, in the religious spirit of the
corporate church in Western Christianity.
And we literally have, like Doctor Laura Sander says, a
generation that's no longer enslaved.
We we were hoodwinked. Cool.
I get it. I was hoodwinked.
Each one of us was hoodwinked. But that doesn't mean we need to
remain in that place. So I've done this once before on
the entire podcast over the last six years, five years, whatever
it's been, but I feel led to read bodies to you guys.
The last time I did this, I got emails in from all around the
world. It's in my book that released
early this year, but it really does touch on, I think, what
each one of us can relate to, which is we start out
individual, my aches, my pains, me, me, me, and it morphs over
time through this, this small speak piece.
I'm going to read to you guys into being the body of Christ.
So it starts out like this. I'm a nobody living in a body.
I've seen somebody lose their body.
The trauma goes deep, I swear, and parts of my body don't work
like a normal body. Much of the time I'm in despair.
I'm not normal to everybody. Some mock and they stare.
Some have abused my body and I wonder, does anybody care?
I've heard of the One who created my body in my mother's
womb, wonderfully and fearfully created, embodying His design
and truth. I ponder on this, fearful that I
may never really know the length, the depth, the breadth
and the height. As my body shakes and trembles
during the darkest times of night, I wake and tell everybody
about somebody who covers with his body.
His name is Christ, he says. He has a body of believers, a
rare remnant, a body that cares. I wonder how to help a body
that's fearful and so scared. He tells me be the body and
never compare. Each member makes my body and of
this I deeply care. Continue to love my body,
becoming nobody for love is rare.
It covers many sins. I see you son, and I care.
And if they come to kill your body being you represent my
body. Remember my body in despair,
broken and beaten, crucified. I gave my body for love.
It's all a part of the plan, my son.
Stay focused on what's above. I'll be with you and everybody
until the end of the age, I swear.
Waiting with a heavenly body and nothing you know could compare.
Wow, that's incredible. Is that in your book?
Did I must? Did you write that?
Yeah, that's that's my book called the Words are salt.
It was his way was prophesied by Doctor Laura Sanger in 2022.
I was I've been writing poetry for a long time.
It was just meant to be for my kids.
But this this prophetic thing developed a book called The
Words are Salt where God was waking me up to three in the
morning. I'm crying writing this stuff
down trying to understand why, but bodies was one that it went
out into the airwaves with with Carly tabs earlier on, like
maybe in the 80s and the 90s or one early one hundreds same time
you were on Basma and that people purchased the book and
started using that to minister to women.
That poem specifically. I know that have been, you know,
trafficked and just horrible things have happened to them.
And once I started to understand, man, it just makes
me like breakdown. I'm like this is but anyway to
answer it and sorry for babbling on.
It's it's in the words our salt, but I felt like it's Aaron.
There were so many people that were encouraged by you coming on
the podcast and representing these stories from the
mountains, right? And then there was like this
like camaraderie that started to grow in the region.
And I really felt like bodies is is going to hit somebody there.
Like I'm expecting an e-mail, Aaron, you see, you help me with
behind the scenes stuff on the podcast.
You see some of the emails, some of the testimonies.
And I really do I felt led to read that at the end of this for
the, the person who listens all the way through, you know, the
every word that we all say and that they would just hear bodies
and it would it would just comfort them in a whole new way.
So I'm hoping. You know, if I may just because
I'll forget it if I don't do it. the IT was so impactful hearing
you read that because it spoke to something that for me has
been one of the maybe most soul shifting ideas in my faith.
And that is the the body, the my physical, literal body.
And this was interesting. This came up during a
conversation I was having with somebody at Burning Man who is
very much into Gnosticism. And I love talking to people
like that because I love teaching them about Gnosticism,
things that they might not have known or misconceptions that
they might have about Christianity, misconceptions
they have about the Bible and God and things like that.
The idea that the the body, our physical body is less important
than our soul or disconnected in a way that leads us to to
disregard at at at the very best.
Often times it's just to disregard the physical body.
The physical body is often we can take, and I'm not trying to
change anybody's theology here, but often we can try to take
comfort in the fact that our physical body is one way, but it
doesn't really matter because I'm going to go to heaven.
My spirit will be there or something can happen to the
physical body and you can say, well, at least, you know, at
least my spirit is, is fine and I'll fly away and it'll be
leftover after this body dies. But the the holiness of our
physical body is an incredibly important thing for us to
really, really rest into rest into that knowledge.
It was one of the primary Gnostic heresies.
And this is, you know, people get pretty got uncomfortable
with this because, you know, everybody likes to think their
theology is perfect. I'm not trying to change
anybody's and I'm not trying to. I'm definitely not saying
anybody should change any of their dogma for my sake.
But one of the primary characteristics of the Gnostic
heresy was the separation of the spirit and the body, that the
spirit is good and the body is bad.
Now of course there's passages in the Bible talking about
fleshliness, fleshly desires, the flesh and and things like
this. But the the inherent essence of
our physical body is not evil. And that was the Gnostic heresy
that all that is spirit is good and all that is fleshly or
fleshly is a hard word because it has different connotations.
All that is biological is bad. And when you really sit and
consider the fact that an entire group of people who people still
to this day are fighting against the Gnostic heresies sinking
into common Christianity, and this is maybe the number one
heresy that has some. And when I say heresy, I call it
heresy because that's what the Catholic Church at the time
called it. This is it's categorical thing.
So keep that in mind. But the the very idea is you go
back to the Old Testament, you go back to the ancient
Israelites, you go back to the the roots of what God has done
on this earth with his covenant with man and his history that
has played out in all of our bodies.
Our bodies are not a temple for the Holy Spirit because they are
bad. Our bodies are a temple for the
Holy Spirit because they are good and because God made them
that way. And you don't.
You wouldn't build a temple for God in a in a in a building that
is made of rotting wood. Maybe if you needed a place to
camp, perhaps in an emergency zone or something, God will fill
any vessel that you give it. But the the when we really
change our hearts about the nature of our bodies and the
goodness of our bodies and the perfection that is the
biological machine that God created, invented with a breath
from his lungs, gave it to us as a gift to be our primary
vehicle, our primary mode of operating.
And to go around thinking that our body is, is bad to think
that it, it, it doesn't deserve the same attention that our
spirits deserve, you know, and there's a Joe Rogan way to think
about it. Like, yeah, go, you know, take
your supplements and work out. And that's all very good.
And that is very important. And thank God, you know, my my
thoughts about my body changed in time for me to do something
about that, but to not just recognize that your body is
holy, but that my body is holy and that their body is holy.
And the bodies that are in the tents down in South Carolina and
the bodies that are being pulled out of the crushed cars and the
bodies that are there waiting in line to get some supplies out of
the back of a truck that came from hundreds of miles away.
It's the bodies of those people that we need to love
immediately. And when I think about that
church that is giving you trouble down there, it feels
like to me that is an organization that is not
recognizing and loving the holiness of the human bodies
around them. A church like that, they want to
build a building to bring in more people because they want to
save more souls. And there's nothing wrong with
that. But there comes a time in that
operation where you see building a building to get more souls in
the door to sing to them and to preach to them and to hopefully
guide them into heaven, which is a noble goal, but is no more
noble than loving the bodies that God created and have put in
front of us and is the primary way that we can show love with
our hands and our feet. There's it is not an accident
that God operates in this world because people move their
bodies. And so when I hear that piece
that you read to me, Rod it, it communicated so many years, a
decade or more of me journeying through this idea that our
bodies are somehow less important than our minds, than
our spirits within our souls. I believe that once someone
individually, but also some people corporately, when we
really get serious about viewing our bodies in the way that God
views our bodies, that is when the real serious transformative
power of what Christ came in a body to do on this earth.
He did not come as a spirit. He is in a body.
And guess what folks, that body is just like yours.
It is almost identical in all the ways that matter.
He may have been a little shorter than you.
He may have been a little taller than you, but essentially your
body, if you believe that the body of Christ is important, he
had the same body as you and yours is important and it's the
same body as your neighbor. And so let's let's once in a
while, again, I'm not even saying everybody change your
life because of this, although it did change mine once in a
while. When you're looking around here
and you're looking for ways, you're asking questions, you're
in a situation, you're praying to God to change your mind about
something. You're praying to God to give
you direction and to give you his heart for something or
someone. Give him a chance to change your
mind about the bodies around you.
And I think that. That.
I think that might be one of the most important, one of the most
important things for the world right now.
Maybe not to be convinced of across the board, but like
bureaucracy, who cares more about process than than outcome.
I rebuke that. I reject it.
And in this case, to our bodies, outcome is more important than
process. That is, the essential sin is
not even the right word. It's the it's the essential
darkness that you see bureaucracy wield in this realm
that we've been given. Is that to prioritize process
over objective or outcome? Is Luciferian?
It is Satanic, It is legalistic, It is Pharisitical.
It is over and over again condemned by Scripture, by
Christ, by the Holy Spirit. And This is why it lifts our
spirits, it changes our mind. It it it it, it switches our our
consciousness when someone hears about taking their bodies to go
do the work of the Lord in a disaster area or something,
despite bureaucracy. Process be damned.
Outcome is what is is the is is primary.
I mean, outcome is what speaks to, I mean, talk about our
souls. It's the outcome that our souls
crave. And it's because our souls want
what's best for our bodies and other bodies.
So thank you for sharing that with us, Rod, because I would
love to get a copy of that book, by the way.
I'm just going to read so it was endorsed by Doctor Laura Sanger
and a very close friend and team member, Carly Tebbs.
But Basil, what you were saying following up bodies, I'm just
going to read a portion of her endorsement here In the
beginning of the book. She says the first time I heard
Rod read bodies on season 4, episode one or two of the
Millennium Mustard C podcast, it harken back to the beautiful and
precarious tension between our bodies being both the temple of
the Holy Spirit and the most abused and regulated vessels of
our human experience. And I'll leave it up to you guys
to go read the rest of that from Carly.
But you know, this is a fellowship.
This is a signaling, right? We are literally using what God
has given us. We have tied the boots, we've
tied the shoelaces in many different ways.
That's that's multi layered, obviously.
And here we are echoing out hope causing more men out there to
get together and and if you can make the trip into the
mountains, pray about that. God, can I go in there?
What do I have to offer? Do I have a camper?
You know, I think a lot of goods that are covered right now or,
or is what Aaron and Michael did say earlier, you know, there's
basic like hygiene things that have been covered.
There's, there's a lot of equipment, but there's housing
problems there. I, I don't know, Billy Graham
Ministry shows up, right? Aaron was sending me pictures.
He's like, dude, Billy Graham's mission team just showed up.
He's telling them about the podcast we're broadcasting out
of there now. Billy Graham's checking out what
we're doing here, right? And so is somebody listening who
has land or resources, little houses, can you build little
houses? Can you facilitate needs to be
met. I do believe that some of these
people are in a position where they might be willing to
temporarily relocate, hopefully not too far in order to get
through the winter. But I mean, I'm just, I'm just
sending this stuff out there hoping we get something back.
You know, just God, we're going to be bold.
We're going to be courageous. We're going to ask.
We're not going to not have it because we didn't ask.
We're going to not have it because somebody couldn't meet
the need. That's going to be the reason
we're going to ask. OK.
And here we are, teaming up, broadcasting hope, faith, using
our voices, taking a posture in the midst of the craziest times
ever. Like I listen to Canary Cry news
talk. You know, the end of the world
is tomorrow. Come listen to Basil and guns as
we write if the world's nuts. And there you go.
Aaron's already showing on the screen.
He's like, Yep, going to pick this up later after I get off
with Basil today. But here's the thing, you guys,
faith is not dead. What we are hoping for, what is
the substance of what we hope for?
What is the evidence of the unseen?
And I think in some ways it is going to be a body in motion,
meeting each other's needs. So as we kind of wind down here,
I mean anybody else, anything pressing on the hard?
Is there some stuff that we didn't cover that really needs
to be dealt with? You know, I'd love to just say
one last thing that came to my mind as as you were saying that
specifically calling out the men.
I mean, you talk about how fallen this world is.
You talk about how messed up the very idea of of men and what men
are supposed to be and what men inherently are and and what men
could be if only they took the right drugs or whatever.
You know, men have a very specific relationship with their
bodies. Of course, women also, the
conversation about women in their bodies is is an ongoing
and very important one. But one that I believe isn't
talked about enough is the relationship between men and
their bodies, because it is the the central failure of men who
lay on their deathbed. And you ask them what would they
change? And they all say I thought that.
I was my income. I thought that I was my
provision. I thought that I was, yeah, I
could Skype into baseball games. I thought that so many other
things are what made me important as a man.
But for men, what's important is your body.
If you're a, if you're a, if you're a father, the most
important thing you can do is have your body in the same room
as the rest of your family. Skyping in, sending an e-mail,
doing whatever it doesn't, doesn't do it.
Your body is what God created you for.
Our bodies are bigger, our bodies are stronger.
That's just inherently the truth.
It's a, it's, it's something we can't get away from.
And as men, you need to remember that your body is a extremely
powerful tool for God. And it's not just about your
muscles, although go make them bigger.
It's not just about your height, but short kings can do things
that tall guys can't. Whatever it is, it doesn't
matter. Your body is the tool through
which you act out the masculine calling that the Lord has placed
upon your life. Your body can be dangerous, and
people do consider men's bodies dangerous a lot of the time.
But your bodies are also protectors.
They're providers. They're the things moving the
revel rubble. Your bodies are present when
nobody else is present. Your body is what's there.
It's, it's what you know, it's, it's, it's a large portion of
what is important to your spouse or your loved one.
It is, but it is so much more than just that because your body
is what God used to separate you from the others.
Yes, of course, the the women being a part of it, but also
other men. You're you don't share a body
with another man. You moving your body is the
prophetic act that we've been talking about through this whole
thing. You don't you don't accomplish
God's will on earth without moving your body.
And so I just want to specifically for all the dudes
out there, I want to empower your mind to feel your body.
Might sound silly, but a lot of guys are out there.
They're just not. They don't feel like they're in
a body, they're in their head. It's a battle that I battle all
the time, feeling like I'm a brain in a jar or I am a spirit
here to think about God all the time.
But without our bodies, there's not much more that God separated
men and women for then specifically our body.
So put it to work. Put it to work and I guarantee
you, you will feel better. You will think better, you will
sleep better, you will have better relationships.
Use your body for what God wants you to use it in your life.
So I'm sorry, my computer totally crashed and I missed a
little bit of that. I don't know if you guys see me
disappear. You were back fast.
That was pretty good. Well, praise God, shout out to
Brett and Danika because they actually supplied this new
computer which can handle like a really quick enter in, enter out
upload stuff. So I've been been able to cruise
through it, but this is a fresh setup and it was the weirdest
thing. It literally froze my screen and
it said we we're having an error transmuting whatever information
and just shut me down and then reopened up.
So the old computer, I never would have been back.
So praise God. Praise God.
For that, well, you'll get to hear it the second time around
when you start editing Basil is. Appointed Basil, you have a
unique and wonderful calling and.
A. Way to just speak to men.
I'm feeling it and my bones, brother.
I'm going to start loving and affirming my body.
You are a man. Your body is.
Powerful. Your body was made by God to do
very specific things. You might as well do it if
you're not doing them. What are we doing?
Yeah, you know this is true, Yes.
And Basil makes me think like even once 1/4 what are we
talking? Maybe even that's that might be
a little hard, but at minimum once or twice a year, I want to
get you back into these spaces where like literally it's a
round table. We get just different people.
If they can be boots on the ground or just people on another
show. It doesn't even matter.
But I've seen you open up because I listen to you, right?
So I've seen you opened up in this space, which takes me back
to the Canary Cry radio days almost where it's like, you
know, there's certain things that have activated you and I'm
seeing the side of you that I originally like was in my my
ears. I even see Aaron's head nodding.
So it's kind of cool to see that we're covering these chasms and
don't stop what you're doing. I'm not insinuating that.
I'm just saying like I love seeing you in this organic space
where if I get moved by the spirit, I can say something
super provocative and it like you just unpack it and take us
there and make it even more beautiful.
It's like from faith in the faith and the glory and the
glory, it's like we're going higher and higher, just ripping
on each other with the complexities and the beauties
and of all of this man. But as as we wind down and come
to a close, you know, I kind of would just go across, you know,
Michael Basham, just close this out real quick, Aaron and then
Basil take the final and end word.
It can be encouragement, whatever you feel LED.
But before I hand it over, thank you guys.
I just want to honor and thank each one of you.
Thank you, Lord. Well, I'm Michael Basham Fringe
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Rod. You got to got to get with us
and take take advantage of our systems.
So what Lord's put in put into my lap recently is just the word
of God in our mouths all the time, all day.
However you do it, get it in there and you have a choice to
either have faith or fear and it's a force.
And if you've got the word of God coming out of your mouth and
you can declare as Basil was eloquently talking about your
body, you speak to your body like I met Aaron and I just
spoke to his body. You're not going to be you're
not getting radiation poisoning bro, you're you're healed.
Jesus name speak to that thing and it's not how it looks on the
outside it. It could be nuclear war,
whatever, blah, blah, blah. But are you going?
Are you tuning to the fear or the faith?
And the way you build up your faith is through this word of
God. So I'm pledging to take this
microphone and I'm going into the word.
I'm blocking out everything else and I love everybody.
It's just this is, this is what we're what we're about.
And you know, you can join Eagle Mountain Church and become an E
member and get that blessing there.
I think this Internet cowboy thing has been fun.
Enjoyed it. Got a lot of wounds from that.
But you need a pastor. Like even if he's in Houston, TX
or get a pastor. Tithing is awesome.
Regular fasting. I mean men, we need to lay aside
the sins, the secret sins, the unconfessed stuff.
Get with men and work hard and pray and get an intercession
team and and podcast. And if you don't podcast,
support a podcast. Get get into the chat and
because otherwise we're so lonely and we don't know if what
we're doing is the just kidding, I'm wearing these sunglasses to
hide my tears. It's a daily strike, but it.
Is time. This is it.
This is Jesus is Coming. As my uncle Dick said, who runs
Derek Prince Ministries. Jesus is coming.
Wait, everybody look busy and of course that's a joke, but it's
true. We need to be busy for the Lord
and and and full of his word and his love and I thank you again
and if I can be of service to any of you guys anytime that I
would love to collaborate very soon.
So my personal website isfaithbooks.com wrote it
myself. Doesn't look like much but hack
it. Try and hack me now.
You can't hack me now with HTML. Doesn't look like I lost all my
websites and I can see basil. You guys use WordPress?
How do you still have that? I know, cool.
It's a whole. Thing Anyway that's enough for
me. Love you guys.
Very, very happy to be here. Just Rod, you reading everything
as far as the bodies go and then Basil you elaborating even more
so on that. I I have to say this, when you
do your little basil rants and stuff, I think that they're
great. This anointing really just kind
of shines out of you for sure. So I definitely would encourage
a lot more of that. You guys are absolutely
incredible. Rod Michael.
I mean, you guys know how I feel about all you just keep it up,
man. The body of Christ rising,
right? You know, I'm yes, Basil was
sitting there talking and it's just like, you know, you said it
perfectly too. Then I was just kind of writing
some stuff down. God gifted our bodies.
Our bodies are a present. So be present to be a present.
Be present, you know, So when God leaves you somewhere, show
up, take that leap of faith, you know, not faith in yourself, but
faith in the King. You know, sitting there, we do
all these little references like fellowship of the ring, right?
Fellowship of the King. Yeah.
Hallelujah. Love it.
Yeah. Amen.
Yeah. Let's go.
I'm just, I'm thankful for you guys.
Let's go, let's go. Love you guys.
Yeah. See you soon, Aaron.
Absolutely Friday. I'll be there Friday.
Dude going back outgoing for a second deployment.
That's very impressive. I'm very impressed with all you
fellas here. But dude, Aaron in the same way
I mean, I wasn't joking it. It's in the same way that it
occurred to so many other men, specifically in this country,
feeling the calling, wondering if that's what they're supposed
to do, to go out and be there, be the hands and feet and be
objective outcome oriented to fight against the satanic
process oriented sort of bureaucratic tyranny that lets
people disappear. It lets people fade away.
It lets people, it lets them die.
As someone who felt that just like so many other million,
millions of fellas, it's very inspirational.
I'm very proud of you. I'm proud to be on this call
with you. I can't wait to hear what the
Lord does as you go back and continue to do that.
So stay in touch. And of course, I know you guys
will keep me posted on everything, but I just want you
to be empowered. I want you to feel empowered.
I want you to feel your body was attacked by the adversary.
It was your body that was the vector that that the adversary
used to take you out. And it's because your body was
making such a difference. Your body was doing what the
Lord needed done in that area. So in the same way, like Michael
was saying, I'll be praying over your body, of course, your mind
and your spirit, but your body, so that you're able to continue
accomplishing that mission. And I can't wait to hear more.
And yeah, Rod, Michael, thank you guys so much for giving me
the opportunity to come on here and and pop off a little bit.
You know, there's a reason why CCNT is so regimented is because
if we did not have if we did not have a structure, we would just
be in big trouble. So it's a cherish the
opportunity to step outside of that structure and to just.
Cage. Thank you for letting me think
outside the cage, guys. I really appreciate that.
I will definitely take you up on any offer to do that in the
future because of course, I appreciate the compliments and
the praise and the recognition from you guys.
That means a lot. But it also feels good to be
given the opportunity to let the Lord do something new.
Let let God do whatever he's going to do with me.
And like, like everything else we've been talking about in this
podcast, if you're not putting yourselves, if you're not moving
your bodies into a position of opportunity, then you're missing
out on a lot of what God has for you.
So I consider this a victory for all of us.
I consider it a victory for me. And I would love to come back
and, and do it as often as possible.
Yeah. And to everybody out there, I
only say all of that. I often get criticism about how
I love talking about myself so much.
But in my head, when I talk about myself, it's because I
want others to identify with me. It's my, it's my desire to, to
connect. It's my desire to maybe have
someone out there be like, oh, he feels like I feel or wow,
that's something that you know, that's, that's, that's me
reaching out to everybody out there in podcast land.
And I know because I have faith that somebody out there feels
the way I do about certain things.
And to the rest of you who are busy at crafting those tweets
about how I talk too much, you can send those to at face like
the Sun on Twitter. Send those straight over there.
That'll be great. But yeah, I guess, I guess the
just the do the normal plugs here at the end.
Of course, my main show is with guns Canary Cry News Talk.
It is a different but similar show called Canary Cry Radio.
I know it's confusing. They're two different shows, but
check them out. And then of course, there's a
lot of Basil deep cuts when it comes to side projects that I've
done over the years. The Joyce Piercy theory.
You can go here, Michael, on the Joyce Piercy theory.
I've got a show called Ravel, which is definitely some.
I don't know if anybody wants more of me ranting like this,
you can go listen to Ravel. There's two Ravels.
The other one stole our name. We have the evidence, but just
search Ravel, Basil Rosewater. It's the whole thing.
But yeah, I I'm humbled and appreciative of you, all three
of you, but also to the listener and the viewer.
Because without them, those moments when I feel like, why am
I doing anything? Is anybody listening?
Does anybody care? Am I doing what God wants me to
do? Is God working or doing anything
through me? If it weren't for the listener
and the viewer, the answer to all that would be no.
So I really am so grateful to every single individual out
there. And yeah, I think that's enough
ranting from me, so thank you very much.
What then shall we say to these things?
If God is for us, who can be against us?
He who did not spare his own Son, but delivered him up for us
all, Shall He not also freely give us all things?
Who shall bring a charge against God's elect?
It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns?
It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen.
Who even at the right hand of God, who makes intercession for
us, who shall separate us from the love of Christ, shall
tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or
nakedness or peril or sword? That's it.
That is the show, you guys. I'm asking you to share this one
far and wide. This is how you participate and
help you share these shows because that's just the right
thing to do. Coming to you from Southeastern
Pennsylvania. God bless and goodbye.
Holding on to hope when the waters get away.
Happily, Sir, you are hell in the arts are the same the wood
all your teeth high like a river to his heart, 'cause I.
You are light blesses the wind and the old fitting child.
Holding on to all them they ever know.
Happily say you are hell in the arms, that savior of the world.
All your tears are like a river to his high is how the laser you
are. Blessed is the one who hears in
this sense, holding on to Jesus when nothing makes sense.
You are hell in the eyes. How the Savior, the world, all
your tears are like a river to his heart.
You are.