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Hello folks, this is Princess. 
You are listening to the 

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Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
Thanks for listening. 

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Don't forget to share with your 
friends. 

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That's tough. 
We're in a very tough spot. 

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I think that what we're doing 
right now is a great benefit and

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virtue because it's an end 
around between this whole 

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corrupt informational system, 
media system. 

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We claim to believe in a God who
spoke the universe into 

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existence and literally raised 
himself from the dead, and yet 

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we are not going to believe that
anything else exists in the 

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spirit realm, even though his 
word tells us that they do. 

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Their bodies weren't permitted 
to go to sleep like humans do, 

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and they weren't permitted to go
to heaven, so they wander the 

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earth. 
You know, I've seen the eyes 

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turn black to unknown tongues 
being spoken. 

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These giants would love way up 
in the Highland, the young 

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Braves, the young men would hide
them in the trees. 

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They'd wait for one of these 12 
footers to come walking down the

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bath and they would jump on them
and kill them, drag them back in

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the village, and the village 
would feast on the body freedom.

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Then people start to get 
weapons, they start to get 

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armor, they start to build 
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their cities. 
Now God looks down and there's 

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violence everywhere. 
The battle, this war that we are

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at is not against each other. 
It's against these 

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principalities and these rulers 
and these archons in the high 

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places. 
It's really worthwhile to read 

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the Bible yourself. 
Fear is one of the primary 

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drivers of mind control because 
we have to take every thought 

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captive and resist fear. 
You're going to have a testimony

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that is a justice case against 
the Kingdom of darkness. 

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Welcome back to the Millennial 
Mustard Seed podcast. 

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I'm your host Rod, and I have a 
legendary episode for you guys. 

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This is a collaboration with 
Basil and Guns from Canary Cry 

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Radio and Canary Cry News Talk 
and Michael Basham from Fringe 

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Radio Network and Spirit Force. 
And of course, we have Aaron 

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Christian Davis joining this 
discussion to talk about his 

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Boots on the ground experience 
in North Carolina, specifically 

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in the places that were heavily 
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This is a bombshell round table 
episode because we get into so 

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much heavy conversation talking 
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from a boots on the ground 
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information that gets covered on
Canary Cry News, talk from Basil

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and Gans, and also speaking 
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And having this conversation 
with these men is encouraging 

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and eye opening and there's so 
many great perspectives that are

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shared. 
I do want to say I got an e-mail

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from a listener named Carrie, so
I'm going to give her a shout 

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out right now. 
I'm not going to say her last 

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name, but she did a song called 
Appalachia You Are Loved, and I 

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play that at the end of this 
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She asked me to share this with 
some people in Appalachia that 

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have been affected. 
And this is a heartfelt, like 

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prayer warrior song from the 
heart of a mother that's not too

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far outside of the affected area
where her and her husband have a

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ministry. 
I know on one of the emails I 

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read recently, she said her and 
her sons were listening to some 

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of the content I was creating in
regards to what has happened in 

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specifically the Carolinas, the 
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Her and her sons were heavily 
encouraged by some of these 

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recordings here on the MMS. 
So I just wanted to give her a 

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quick shout out and you can look
forward to that song being 

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played at the end of this 
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Now, the cool thing about this 
recording is going out on 

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multiple different platforms. 
This will show up on Spirit 

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Force. 
It'll show up on Fringe Radio 

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Network. 
It's also going to show up on 

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Canary Cry Radio. 
The banner that's over top of 

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this episode is Never 
Underestimate the Power of Love.

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And I think we're learning over 
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much power is in love and 
collaboration and just getting 

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to know people that are out 
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You know, so many things go 
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cool this is that God has given 
me a platform to be able to 

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connect with people that at one 
point in time I was just 

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listening to while working in a 
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who I've stood on their 
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paved the way in so many ways. 
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them and it just encourage you 
guys to share this episode far 

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and wide. 
It's heartfelt, it's eye 

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opening. 
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conspiratorial topics, but it's 
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questions about what he's 
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with the local militias with 
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action, him saying yes, the 
power of yes, and going into 

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this, these towns that have just
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hurricanes. 
I really appreciate you guys for

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listening and sharing these 
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And on this episode towards the 
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poems and it really rattles up 
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Basil in the best way possible 
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Not that you have to watch the 
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Like I said, this is a legendary
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Fringe Radio Network, Spirit 
Force, yours truly Rod and Aaron

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Christian Davis. 
I think it's about time to jump 

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into this episode. 
I'm ready. 

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Are you guys ready? 
Let's go. 

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Let's go. 
This is Rod Smith from 

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southeastern PA. 
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Wilmington, NC. 
Michael Basham from Waynesville,

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NC. 
Basil Rosewater, Canary Cry News

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Talk Off the Grid, 
Interdimensional Time Traveler. 

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Oh great. 
This is some credentials right 

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there. 
Everybody gone Shimura from the 

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land of new scum. 
Well, it's an honor to be with 

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all of you men. 
I have summoned you all here 

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today for one of the greatest 
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hope and even tragedy and all of
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And I just really want to honor 
each one of you guys, Michael, 

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Aaron, Basil Gonz. 
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of Basil and Gonz way back in 
the day like they were the first

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people outside of Doctor Chuck 
Missler that I knew were like 

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fringe and into airwaves. 
And it's just legendary to have 

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you 2 here with me. 
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guess we just passed it down the
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saying this whole thing, the 
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underestimate the power of love.
That's the banner that's over 

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this whole thing. 
Appreciate you having me back 

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here and with a big group chat 
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I love it. 
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There's a scripture in 
Revelation that talks about the 

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first love, you know, not 
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So maybe it's something I need 
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week because it's been a little 
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But you know, it's good to have 
the community of faith, not just

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supporters of the podcast and 
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I, I, I rage tweeted over the 
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about quitting podcasting, half 
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venting. 
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reminded that there are people 
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and the Lord has used me as a 
vessel and a huge blessing. 

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So I feel very blessed and 
encouraged despite the hardships

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in certain situations that I'm 
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goes through some difficult 
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always there. 
So it's, it was a good reminder 

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for me. 
So hopefully it reminds someone 

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else out there going through 
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Absolutely. 
Hallelujah. 

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Thank you, Lauren. 
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Know who's got something to say?
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I'm just. 
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it's a really special 
opportunity here to get together

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with you guys. 
I mean all of you, with the 

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exception of Aaron, and he's 
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well. 
We have sort of a history in 

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this weird little space and it's
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and even recognized by like the 
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media that we are in 1/5 
generational war, which is a war

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for the minds of civilians in 
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bureaucratic secular definition 
of 5th generational war, 

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information war, which is just a
reflection of what we have known

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all along. 
And that's that it's a spiritual

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war. 
And I can't stop repeating it 

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over and over just to remind 
people that, you know, spiritual

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wars are made-up of spiritual 
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battles are played out in the 
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So we all have these individual 
spiritual battles that are not 

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metaphorically constituting the 
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They are literally constituting 
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And hey, if you, if you got a 
battle, if there's a battle on 

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going individually or a battle 
going on corporately, what do 

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you do? 
You support each other, You 

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bring in other soldiers, you 
bring in support, you bring in 

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these types of things. 
And this is reflected in the not

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just, you know, spiritual realm,
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principalities, the powers, the 
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worldly governors know the power
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And they fight the spiritual war
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They call it 5th generational 
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And it's not just between nation
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it's between principalities, 
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and Florida and Georgia and 
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to get wrapped up. 
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with the physical devastation, 
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It deserves all the attention it
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It deserves way more attention 
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giving it. 
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coincidence that the, the 
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proximity between the disasters 
and the election played a 

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perfect strategy in, in 
whatever, whatever spiritual war

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or 5th generational operation 
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But again, keeping this in mind 
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Americans and people and 
Christians coming together to 

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stand side by side to cover each
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Shields, the closer we stand and
the the, the proximity of our 

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operations and our prayers is 
what brings victory every single

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time. 
So that's why I'm so stoked here

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to talk to you, Aaron, because 
you are, you're the, you're the 

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first guy that I've been able to
talk to who is Boots on the 

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ground in the operations, 
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doing the Lord's work, being the
hands and the feet. 

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And not only, you know, your, 
your physical operations on the 

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ground in North Carolina, but 
also the, you know, bringing it 

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back here to participate in the 
spiritual and the 5th 

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generational warfare because the
information needs to get out 

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there. 
And it's obviously information 

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that's not getting out. 
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censored or hidden is a huge 
victory for the adversary. 

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And so I think it's very 
important that not only us here 

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on this show, but everybody 
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you know, take up their shield 
and remember that whether it is 

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the bureaucratic 5th 
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is the spiritual war being 
waged, Being here, watching 

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this, listening to this, and 
then speaking with your mouth 

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both to God and to other people 
about what we learned here is an

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extremely powerful weapon. 
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is not blind to how powerful 
that weapon is. 

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So I just want to, I would, I 
feel much more comfortable, you 

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know, participating in such an 
important conversation, standing

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side by side with my Bros. 
Amen. 

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Hallelujah. 
I love the the holy hype track 

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there well. 
I'll say this real quick. 

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I definitely was really, really 
inspired by all of you guys. 

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I just met Michael recently, but
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boots on the ground, Basil, you 
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whatnot, you know, it just 
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like this whole thing. 
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experiential through my life and
like, you know, being able to 

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see, you know, you guys do your 
things and speak about these 

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things. 
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not that long ago, right after 
the after the storm and I, you 

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know, I talked about going there
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just that it was just talk. 
You know, it wasn't until a 

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friend of mine who had gone down
there, you know, Christy, shout 

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out to her. 
She's still there. 

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She was told that they're going 
to be looking for for bodies and

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she wasn't equipped equipped for
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So she called me up and I've 
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And it was just a perfect time. 
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you know, I just got out of 
church and she called me and 

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left me this message. 
And you can tell that she was 

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very, very shaken. 
And it's just like, you know, I 

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think I'll just go, might as 
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And, you know, having that 
support from Rod and then like, 

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you know, the group of men that 
you know, are on our Thursday 

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night prayer call and stuff. 
I mean, they honestly equipped 

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me. 
You guys have equipped me. 

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I've been listening to all of 
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time and just having that 
foundation and that support and,

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you know, prayers and 
everything. 

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You know, Rod, you, you were 
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this is what I want you to do. 
Never underestimate the power of

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love. 
And then like just not being 

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fearful, you know, and 
documenting everything. 

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And it's been honestly the most 
incredible thing that's ever 

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happened in my life. 
You know, just excuse me if I 

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get a little emotional, just 
being able to go down there and 

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feel the love and the spirit, 
not just feel it like a nice, 

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you know, movie that kind of 
gets you going or whatever, but 

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actually seeing it operate in 
real time. 

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I mean, I, Michael, I talked to 
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How many coincidences happened 
every single time that we would 

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pray about something, Rod, how 
many times like like that just 

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immediately and it's just like 
that's God literally answering 

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prayers in real time. 
And it was just, it was so 

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humbling and overwhelming that 
just the frequency and like, you

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know, it all just happened so 
quick and it's still happening. 

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I mean, here we are right now. 
We're all sitting here talking. 

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I this doesn't feel real to me. 
I love all of you guys and like 

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having that support and that 
foundation and that brotherhood,

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that fellowship. 
We talked about Lord of the 

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Rings, right? 
Look at the the name of that 

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movie, the fellowship. 
What did we talk about, Rod? 

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What if I've been missing in my 
life? 

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Fellowship, What was happening 
in the mountains? 

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Fellowship, you know. 
Wow, it's powerful. 

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You know, when the the storms 
were happening, I mean, this 

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was, I mean, just let's be 
frank, it was the most important

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thing any of us could talk about
at the time, even with the 

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election coming up, even with 
all the crazy current events 

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happening. 
I mean, the war was escalating 

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at the time too. 
But I think that there was a 

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chord that this disaster struck 
in the hearts of American men, 

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women, Christians, people, you 
know, it, it was this diversion 

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for one second away from the 
craziness, away from the 

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politics, away from this kind of
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It was at least a moment of 
diversion back to caring about 

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the the people, the individuals,
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us. 
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beautiful moment in the country,
which unfortunately we only 

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often experienced during time of
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And then we saw immediately the 
strategy to turn it into a 

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political thing or to, you know,
to take advantage of the 

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situation. 
And, you know, we heard stories 

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about people going down there 
and helping. 

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We heard stories about the the 
failures of FEMA and the 

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government. 
We heard stories. 

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I mean, I can't remember the 
last time that people were 

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really considered American 
heroes. 

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You know, you talk about what 
were they the, the, the Cajun 

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Navy? 
I'm sorry, I don't know what 

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they're called, but whatever, 
you know, these these groups of 

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people down in the area showing 
up to do the real work that 

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wasn't getting done through the 
government. 

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And it was, I mean, talk about 
shifts of power. 

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We obviously went through a 
shift in electoral power here, 

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not just with the presidency, 
but with the, you know, the 

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population as a whole. 
There's, we seem to have turned 

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a corner here. 
But the, the juxtaposition of 

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the effectiveness of Americans 
taking things into their own 

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hands versus waiting for the 
government to do it, I think 

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woke a lot of people up in a way
that they had not been woken up 

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before. 
And I know I also, of course, it

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occurred to me like, Oh my gosh,
I got nothing going on. 

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I can podcast from down there, 
we can figure this out, Let's 

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go. 
But for all the different 

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reasons that happens in people's
lives, me, like I'm sure 

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millions of others decided that 
we couldn't do it, but you did, 

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which is incredible. 
Can you tell us a little bit 

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about when you first gone down 
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What were you expecting? 
What was it like in reality? 

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And what surprised you the most 
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As far as what I was expecting, 
like I said, I, I already had 

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like that, that, that support 
from Rod and all the other guys 

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and stuff. 
So I mean, honestly, I was, I 

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was kind of unshaken. 
Rod was very, very specific on 

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like, you know, documenting 
everything on my way there. 

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And then once I'm there and, you
know, in hindsight, I understand

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why he told me that because I 
had so many different 

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interactions and stories and 
prayers answered in real time 

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that if I didn't document these 
things, I would literally just 

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be fumbling words out of my 
mouth right now, right? 

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But no, it's unlike anything 
I've ever seen. 

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The destruction from a physical 
standpoint, even if you saw it 

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on Hollywood screen, it wouldn't
even like seem real. 

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You know, just when you first 
get into the mountains and you 

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see how many landslides there 
were and just the path, and 

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there's so many stories too, 
you'll see a house that 

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literally is in the middle of 
this huge landslide. 

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In this landslide. 
There was nothing to stop it. 

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And it literally just separated.
And it was because people prayed

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over their homes, you know, 
specifically the very first 

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night I got there, Mandy, she 
was one of those those stories 

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that just didn't really make 
sense. 

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She's running, her and her 
husband are running a 

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distribution center. 
And they told me the story and I

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filmed it. 
I sent it over to Rod. 

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There's all these trees on top 
of this hill that are basically 

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leaned right up against the 
house. 

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And the night that the storm 
first arose, they, they prayed 

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over the house and said, God, if
you protect our home, you know, 

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we will follow you and like, you
know, glorify you in any way, 

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shape or form that you see fit. 
And now all of a sudden they run

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a distribution center. 
And just from a physics 

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standpoint, looking and being 
there, it, it didn't make any 

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sense. 
And their house was spared. 

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And now they've got hundreds of 
pallets of, you know, medical 

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supplies, feeding stuff, 
everything that people need 

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that, you know, survive in the 
physical right now has all been 

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provided through them. 
And it was because God literally

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protected their, their house 
very next day. 

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That's when I got to the camp. 
And there wasn't like a whole 

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lot of communication or 
structure or anything like that.

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So when I first got to this this
Baptist Church down there in the

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valley, there wasn't a whole lot
of authority or structure. 

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And then I guess just with my 
military background and stuff 

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that kind of put me in this 
position of authority. 

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And I'm doing things for the 
church. 

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And then all of a sudden, you 
know, I hear from the people in 

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the church that there's a 
militia right down the road, 

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Camp Miller. 
And everybody was like, oh, 

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panicked and living in fear. 
And it's just like, oh, yeah, 

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they have guns and open carry 
and this and that. 

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And I'm just kind of like, I'm 
going to go check it out in the 

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morning because, like, I kind of
want to, like, get boots on the 

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ground, so to speak. 
And I go over there and like, 

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you know, take me to your 
leader, You know? 

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And I met Jordan or Jacob. 
I kept calling him Jacob last 

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time. 
His name is Jordan. 

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And the amount of love that I 
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yeah, sure. 
Everybody was like open carrying

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and stuff, but it wasn't for 
reasons that anybody really 

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understood. 
It was because they got burned 

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by the government and FEMA and 
they allowed them to come into 

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the camp. 
And when they tried shutting 

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down the camp, they were just 
like, Nope, you're not shutting 

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it down. 
Thank you. 

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We don't need you. 
And instead of the government 

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and FEMA being in control, the 
people, the body of Christ, are 

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in control. 
They and their operation over at

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Camp Miller are doing amazing 
things. 

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I mean, these people, they've 
got everything set up. 

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It looks like a forward 
operating base from like a 

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military standpoint and just 
everything is very organized. 

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Everybody is loving and 
compassionate. 

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They go out of their way to help
anybody and everybody. 

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We take down lists of anybody 
that comes down from the 

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mountains and lost everything. 
We give them three meals a day. 

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You know, we, we find a way to 
figure out whatever problem they

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have, how we can remedy that 
either temporarily or you know, 

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in Michael's case, he donated a,
what is it a 40 foot, a fifth 

451
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,840
wheel trailer to somebody that 
lost their home. 

452
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,000
John and just people are rising 
up like that and just giving 

453
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,280
everything. 
People that have abundance, 

454
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,320
they're giving it all away. 
They're giving their time, their

455
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,800
talent, their treasure. 
Pun intended, but they're doing.

456
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,720
All these things save the world,
baby. 

457
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,480
That's right. 
So. 

458
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,600
Dude, that's incredible. 
I'm instantly struck like 

459
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,240
dramatically by what you said 
about the landscape. 

460
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,280
And that's something you know 
that that I think you really 

461
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,200
have to witness because on the 
news, you're going to see the 

462
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,520
houses, you're going to see the 
roads washed out, you're going 

463
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,480
to see those types of things. 
But to imagine the devastation, 

464
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,000
or not to imagine, to see it 
where it's not just the works of

465
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,680
human hands that were destroyed 
in this, but to see the 

466
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:28,360
landscape, the geography scarred
by this event. 

467
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:34,760
You know, the mountains that the
Lord raised up, you know, at the

468
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,960
beginning of time. 
To see those, you know, torn 

469
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,240
asunder or even dissolved in a 
way, it just speaks to the 

470
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,680
absolute devastation. 
The, the militias were so 

471
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,920
interesting, dude. 
Because of course, you know, any

472
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,480
coverage anybody was seeing 
about that is, oh, the militias,

473
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,480
they're attacking the 
government. 

474
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,520
They're, it's anarchy. 
They're, you know, FEMA is 

475
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,360
running away in fear. 
Oh my gosh, he's crazy. 

476
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,800
Honestly, Trump supporters are, 
you know, are, are, are taking 

477
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,720
over. 
It's civil war almost. 

478
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,560
But to hear that, it's like, you
know, the these were people 

479
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,360
doing what needed to be done. 
It doesn't sound like they were 

480
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,520
breaking any laws for whatever 
version of laws you could say, 

481
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,600
you know, existed in such a such
an intense atmosphere. 

482
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,440
Of course, the laws still apply.
But you know, things are things 

483
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,600
are crazy. 
And it's interesting because 

484
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,720
there's a segment of the country
when they heard about militias 

485
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,480
going around helping people out 
that go, wow, that's what 

486
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,800
America is all about, people 
coming together, keep people, 

487
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,640
you know, helping each other 
out, rebuilding, making sure 

488
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,200
things don't get any worse, 
etcetera. 

489
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,280
And then there's an entirely 
different part of the country 

490
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960
going. 
Last Civil. 

491
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:01,640
War. 
Oh, no. 

492
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,840
And not only does that speak to 
like a political division, but 

493
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,800
again, honestly kind of a 
spiritual division. 

494
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,800
This this idea of how we regard 
our fellow man. 

495
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,080
I think it was really revealing 
to a lot of people. 

496
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,080
What was so so you were invited 
down there with a group. 

497
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,760
Did was there like a specific 
mission that you had or was it, 

498
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,920
you know, show up and be hands 
and feet? 

499
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,320
No mission whatsoever. 
Like I said, Christy reached out

500
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,480
to me and she said that when she
got down there that they wanted 

501
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,040
to have people go look for for 
bodies. 

502
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,360
And you know, she's not equipped
for that. 

503
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,640
I ended up doing that the very 
first day. 

504
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,080
Like that was the call. 
The call was come look for 

505
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,440
bodies and you're. 
Like. 

506
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,480
Let's go. 
I remember when Aaron called me 

507
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,920
and told me that he's like, 
yeah, I, I'm equipped to do 

508
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,360
this. 
Christy's not There's like 

509
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,480
people are just catching this 
interest and coming in and 

510
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,880
saying, OK, where do I fit and 
what can I do? 

511
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,240
And so Aaron, you, you had a 
couple. 

512
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Well, there was some bumps in 
the road, man. 

513
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Let's talk about some of the 
resistance and what what was 

514
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,520
that look like? 
You're out doing reconnaissance.

515
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,680
You you touch some water and you
have some scars on your body, 

516
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,160
physical, probably emotional 
temporarily from some of these 

517
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,040
experiences. 
Let's let's kind of jot into 

518
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,600
that like like that was a. 
You had also said something. 

519
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,360
So like me and Rod talked quite 
a bit. 

520
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,000
We've become very, very close. 
But like, I listened to a lot of

521
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,680
his advice and he told me like, 
you know, just do me a favor. 

522
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,960
Like, you know, when you get 
there, like don't overdo it and 

523
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,200
don't become overwhelmed. 
You know, if you can kick off 

524
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,120
your shoes and do some grounding
or something like that. 

525
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760
And I'm like, well, I don't 
think I can do that because 

526
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,040
there's a lot of toxins and like
chemicals all in the dirt and 

527
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,080
everything. 
I mean, all the local fisheries 

528
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,880
and wildlife are, are honestly 
all destroyed. 

529
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,280
So it's just like, OK, I can't 
do that. 

530
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,640
So I made it kind of intentional
to go ahead and just do a 

531
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,840
walkabout by myself. 
You know, I did some driving and

532
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,680
I did, I don't know, I just kind
of drove off the beaten path, so

533
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,600
to speak. 
And I looked at like some areas 

534
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,480
that looked like they hadn't 
really been touched just because

535
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,160
they're really, really hard to 
access. 

536
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,920
So I pulled my Jeep over and I 
kind of made my way down and, 

537
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,520
you know, was very careful not 
to like, you know, go into the 

538
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,560
water or anything like that. 
But I did find a, a crushed 

539
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,640
Oldsmobile, very classic car, 
but just completely smashed. 

540
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,480
And I just had a feeling and I 
I, you know, I got down and I 

541
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,440
looked and yeah, there there 
was, there was somebody in 

542
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,880
there. 
So I had to report that. 

543
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,320
But on my way back, you know, it
being really, really hard to, 

544
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,880
you know, access, I had to go 
around this bamboo forest and 

545
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,920
there was a lot of loose stone 
and sediment. 

546
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,960
And, you know, I was wearing 
pants and, you know, boots and 

547
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,560
everything and had kind of 
slipped down trying to make my 

548
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,280
way back up. 
And my foot slipped into the 

549
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,640
water. 
And I didn't really think 

550
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,880
anything of it. 
But the water had gotten into my

551
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,680
boot and sat there for the 
remainder of the day. 

552
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:11,200
And I didn't really think much 
until the very next morning I 

553
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,600
woke up and I had a huge lump on
my back, which I didn't really 

554
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,600
know what that was. 
And then my foot was all burned.

555
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,560
I showed up to breakfast in the 
morning over at Camp Miller and 

556
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,760
I'd taken my shoes off because 
my foot was hurting really, 

557
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,480
really bad. 
And all of a sudden I looked 

558
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,240
down and it's just like 
completely melted and bubbled up

559
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640
and everything. 
And it's just like, what is 

560
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,040
that? 
What is that? 

561
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,840
And everybody's just like, what 
happened? 

562
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,080
And I'm like, I, I don't know. 
And the only thing I could think

563
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,440
of was, well, my foot slipped in
the water and that was it. 

564
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,120
So I ended up going out all the 
way out to Asheville, which is 

565
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,400
like an hour away from where 
we're camped at, and spent the 

566
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,120
entire day in the ER. 
They did a bunch of blood work 

567
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,400
and all these things. 
And yeah, it turns out they in 

568
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,200
the tox screen, I was bit by a 
brown recluse spider and there. 

569
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,040
Was my. 
Lump about the size of 1/2 of a 

570
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,320
golf ball on my back and they 
had to cut it open and like get 

571
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,679
all the toxins out. 
They had to give me anti venom, 

572
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,920
patch me up and then as far as 
my my foot goes, I had third 

573
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,960
degree burns and have basically 
just spent the last week, week 

574
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,239
and a half since that, you know,
kind of changing out the, the 

575
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,520
bandages and stuff like that. 
There's not a whole lot you can 

576
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,080
do for it, but. 
So the burns, was that from the 

577
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,120
spider? 
Are you saying what was the 

578
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,760
burns? 
That's from the water when I. 

579
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:39,320
So the the water and the ground 
itself is like desiccated. 

580
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,880
It's yes, spoiled. 
It's that's crazy. 

581
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,600
And you had a spider bite at the
same time. 

582
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,560
That's that's two very 
unpleasant things at the same 

583
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,360
time. 
Did it feel? 

584
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,080
How did that affect your your 
like mindset? 

585
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,360
Your your motivation? 
Your spirit? 

586
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,360
Honestly, it kind of fired me up
even more. 

587
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,640
There was a lot of people at 
camp that were just like, hey, 

588
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,280
you need to rest, you need to 
take care of yourself. 

589
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,640
And I'm like, no, no, no, no, 
like that. 

590
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,600
No, I, I take it as like, you 
know, an attack from the enemy 

591
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,640
basically saying that you're 
over the target and you need to 

592
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,440
stop. 
No, I refuse. 

593
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,080
So I kind of be a little bit 
stubborn like that. 

594
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,360
I'll follow the father. 
I kind of deny the opposer as 

595
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,400
much as I can so. 
Amen, brother. 

596
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,000
Amen. 
That's right. 

597
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,880
So. 
All right. 

598
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,080
I can already see the emails I'm
getting about how I talk too 

599
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,080
much, so I'm going to let you 
guys take it for a little bit. 

600
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,360
Well, this is a great 
fellowship, guys. 

601
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,160
And just the feeling of the love
that Aaron described and when he

602
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,800
came and Rod connected us and I 
just happened to have moved here

603
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:52,400
from Hawaii a few years back and
it was like, man, this is a real

604
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,000
war. 
This area is full of witches, 

605
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,040
darkness, it's a battlefield. 
And this hurricane was just a 

606
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,360
manifestation. 
I think of that. 

607
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,440
But then, like you're saying, 
here come the warriors, the 

608
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,440
fellowship. 
You know, it's like, here's 

609
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,120
Aragorn and there's Legolas when
you can have my bow. 

610
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:16,240
And then there's and you know, 
that's how it feels this 

611
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,400
meeting. 
And I want to just read this 

612
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,360
really quick. 
A friend loveth at all times, 

613
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,440
and a brother is born for 
adversity. 

614
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:31,440
So here's a chance for men to 
rise and like Aaron to be brave 

615
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,720
and for Rod and Basil and Gans 
to lend their mic. 

616
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,360
And this is Johnny McMahon's 
microphone. 

617
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,000
The fringe radionetwork.com. 
We have an app now there's it's 

618
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,560
all home grown. 
I mean, this desk, the studio 

619
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,880
was donated built somehow the 
donations that we get on on my 

620
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,800
show. 
And it's just like, how are we 

621
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,000
still here doing this? 
And it's, it's not like we're 

622
00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:00,280
really successful at, we think, 
but then we're, this is a prayer

623
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,160
base where I'm broadcasting from
and we're having deliverances 

624
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,680
regularly and we're finding out 
the corruption of the churches. 

625
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,640
Maybe Aaron wants to mention 
too, 'cause you saw like 

626
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,400
directly and we're having it 
here in Waynesville too. 

627
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,840
Just vile religious spirits 
manifesting. 

628
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,120
It's like you got the witches, 
you got the warlocks, you got 

629
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,640
the orcs, you got the 
terminators, you got the AI, you

630
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,840
got the media, you got the FEMA.
And then you got the on top of 

631
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,600
all that you've got like 
Saruman, the white YouTube. 

632
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:33,040
He's like, we must join with 
Sauron. 

633
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,880
Why? 
You just kind of like, you know,

634
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,160
that's how it feels. 
It's like, no, not that church 

635
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,920
tell us that story. 
Just go ahead. 

636
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Sorry, I'm not I'm. 
Not so just so just for clarity,

637
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,040
just for our people. 
I know you mentioned it before 

638
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,520
the show, but you're you're 
actually in the area as well. 

639
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,400
You're there where? 
In South Carolina? 

640
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,080
This is North Carolina, right on
the border of Tennessee. 

641
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,160
Got it. 
OK. 

642
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,840
Yeah. 
All right. 

643
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,040
Yeah, you're there too, man. 
Behind it and behind. 

644
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,120
Totally smooth. 
We were about an hour from Aaron

645
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,600
and where where I'm doing this 
operation is is separate, but 

646
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,280
we're also having huge 
ministries come through here and

647
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,800
just the miracles are off the 
charts and like meeting scout 

648
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,640
teams from EMIC Eagle Mountain 
Church in Houston, TX. 

649
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,360
They're about to send 25 guys 
huge dinner on on Thanksgiving 

650
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,960
at the veterans, the VFW, the 
veterans of foreign wars and 

651
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,360
just love bomb. 
I mean, guys get into that 

652
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,080
discipleship thing and serve God
and forsake all you got stuff. 

653
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,040
Just throw it on the apostles 
feet and just go like this is 

654
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,360
your chance. 
So we're here. 

655
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,440
I'm working with soldiers and I 
would say what I do is more of 

656
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,800
like assisting the people that 
are front lines as sisters, as 

657
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,400
sisters. 
That sounds so feminine, the. 

658
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,840
Support unit bro. 
Yeah, and you guys are obviously

659
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:03,800
bigger warriors of the Internet 
and we need you to keep this 

660
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,600
story pushed out cuz it's like 
all the other stuff is going to 

661
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,920
distract people. 
We had 15 people apparently die 

662
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,720
from hypothermia in one night 
just a few nights ago. 

663
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,680
So and, and FEMA says, oh, only 
100 people died. 

664
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,080
Meanwhile, people are in tears 
saying, well, we had a pile of 

665
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,280
bodies in this rubble and FEMA 
to leave and then we came back 

666
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,800
and then the whole thing was on 
fire. 

667
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,360
So it's just like they're trying
to demoralize us. 

668
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,480
But the love of the brotherhood 
and the and the fighters and the

669
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,880
warriors men, if anybody wants 
to volunteer or send cash to 

670
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,520
those bases, you know, just 
please. 

671
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,640
Yeah. 
I. 

672
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,160
Apologize. 
I apologize for interrupting 

673
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,440
your question. 
It was a great question. 

674
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,440
I want to know about it. 
So, Aaron, the, you know, we 

675
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,760
heard about these sort of 
factions who are all, you know, 

676
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,840
we heard about the, the, the 
caravans that got turned away 

677
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,840
from the, by the sheriff or the 
helicopter pilot guy or 

678
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,360
whatever, all sorts of different
things. 

679
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,600
But Mike makes a great point 
about sort of also the spiritual

680
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,880
factions, the the spiritual 
powers and residents in the 

681
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,280
area. 
Can you tell us a little bit 

682
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,720
about what that atmosphere is 
like? 

683
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,880
Yeah, there's a lot of 
disruptors. 

684
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:21,600
I think what Michael is 
referring to is there was a food

685
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,280
cart that had been right next to
the church for about about a 

686
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:32,840
month after, you know, the storm
and really nice lady from out my

687
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,200
way actually. 
But they had a church basically 

688
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,880
donate a lot of food and like a 
huge food truck. 

689
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,800
And they were feeding people 
that were coming down from the 

690
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,800
mountains over the last month. 
And when I first got there, they

691
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,760
were just like, oh, yeah, we're 
packing up, you know, because 

692
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,000
they don't want us here anymore.
I'm like, who doesn't want you 

693
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,440
here anymore? 
They're like the church. 

694
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,800
And I'm like that church right 
there, Like the church got 

695
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,880
there. 
The church didn't want it. 

696
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,200
And this church specifically, 
and forgive me, I'm not trying 

697
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,800
to bash the church here, but I 
do want to kind of identify, you

698
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,560
know, what the church is. 
It's not the four walls. 

699
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,800
It's it's the body of Christ. 
It's followers of Christ, right.

700
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,720
So these people ended up 
leaving. 

701
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:20,400
I brought a grill and then I 
went to into town and I bought 

702
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,000
like a bunch of burgers and hot 
dogs. 

703
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,640
And I actually had like a whole 
cooler full of fresh fish that 

704
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,920
was actually given to me from 
the local seafood place here in 

705
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,160
town. 
And just like, hey, you know, 

706
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,800
I'll feed some people. 
I'm, I'm equipped for this, you 

707
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,320
know, So I started cooking and a
bunch of people were coming down

708
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,080
from the mountains and stuff. 
And all of a sudden some guy 

709
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,160
came up to me and was just like,
did you get approval for that? 

710
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,680
I'm like, for what they're like 
for cooking on church property. 

711
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,600
And I'm like, I brought a grill 
and I bought all this food. 

712
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Like, people are hungry. 
People lost everything. 

713
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,200
I don't see what the problem is.
And this guy just kept pressing 

714
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,360
me, right? 
And I'm just like, are you 

715
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,360
hungry? 
You know, he's just like, well, 

716
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,720
I just want to make sure that 
you're not stepping in on 

717
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,560
anybody's toes. 
And I'm just like, like who? 

718
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,400
He's like, I don't know, like 
maybe the Deacon of the church. 

719
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,880
And I'm like Deacon of the 
church. 

720
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:12,880
He's like, I'm the Deacon of the
church. 

721
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,960
You didn't ask for permission to
cook for people. 

722
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,280
I'm like, well, hi, Deacon, 
how's it going? 

723
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,840
Like, are you hungry? 
Is it OK if I cook for people? 

724
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,400
And he's just like, well, you 
know, I'd, I'd really like for 

725
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,920
you to like, you know, go 
through the right processes and 

726
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,120
stuff and ask for permission 
before you just kind of run the 

727
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,480
show. 
And I'm like, I'm not trying to 

728
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,280
step on anybody's toes. 
I'm just trying to fill, you 

729
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,280
know, people. 
He's like, well, I guess it's 

730
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,160
OK. 
And I'm like, all right, well, 

731
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,120
thank you, you know, and this 
guy just gave like a bunch of 

732
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,880
lash backs. 
So Fast forward to me meeting 

733
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,680
with Camp Miller, and my whole 
goal was to bring these two 

734
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,000
camps together, the church and 
Camp Miller. 

735
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,520
So when I met everybody at Camp 
Miller, I saw the love being 

736
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,120
spread. 
I saw just the operation that 

737
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,160
was being ran, you know, to a 
tee. 

738
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,080
And it's just like, you know, 
just like this, like we got to 

739
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,120
collaborate. 
We got to get these two teams 

740
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,280
together, you know, because 
you've got the church that's 

741
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,720
afraid of Camp Miller. 
Camp Miller's like what? 

742
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:10,880
We'd love to help the church, 
but the church doesn't want us 

743
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,280
to help. 
And it's just like, no, no, no, 

744
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,120
I got so much pushback from this
Deacon when he found out what I 

745
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,360
was trying to do. 
A couple days later, he came up 

746
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,440
and talked to me again. 
And he's like, whatever you're 

747
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,760
doing, you need to stop. 
And I'm like, can I ask you a 

748
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,920
question? 
Like why? 

749
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,720
Why? 
He's just like, well, you know, 

750
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:31,000
it's just how we operate around 
here. 

751
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,960
And like, you know, we don't 
want to be involved with the 

752
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,640
militia or anything like that. 
They got their their church 

753
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,280
built. 
They actually started 

754
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,520
construction before the storm, 
and I do have a construction 

755
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,440
background. 
So when I first got there, they 

756
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,000
had asked me to kind of 
volunteer my time helping the 

757
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,280
church. 
And I did that for a couple 

758
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,080
hours until I realized that 
like, okay, no, they've got it. 

759
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,920
There's other more important 
things to go out and do to help 

760
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,600
people and not just build this 
church. 

761
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,120
And when I found out that it was
already in the remodeling phase 

762
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,520
beforehand. 
And the fact that they're 

763
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,440
actually trying to get 
everything off church property 

764
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,320
because we've got like a, a 
laundry facility, bathrooms, and

765
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,560
then like a huge storage shed 
that was built right next to the

766
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,760
church that has a bunch of 
clothes and food and all these 

767
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,200
things that people are coming 
down that have nothing and 

768
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,200
they're just trying to force all
this stuff off. 

769
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,680
And it's just like, I can't get 
behind that. 

770
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:32,240
I I really, really, truly can't.
And yet somebody came and talked

771
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,480
to me and they were just like, 
you handled yourself really, 

772
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,600
really well. 
I'm like, what do you mean? 

773
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,800
They're like, yeah, the Deacon's
trying to get rid of you. 

774
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,640
And I, I don't think you allowed
him to have like, you know, an 

775
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,160
opportunity to be able to get 
rid of you because you handled 

776
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,280
yourself with grace. 
You know, I'm just like, I kind 

777
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,400
of kind of felt that. 
I kind of felt like he was 

778
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,800
trying to get a rise out of me 
so that way he could be like, 

779
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,920
no, away with you, you know, And
I just didn't really take the 

780
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,800
bait. 
And yeah, I'll be heading back 

781
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,360
on on Friday. 
I will be working with Camp 

782
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,840
Miller primarily, but I will be 
going back and forth. 

783
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,040
And, you know, there's a lot of 
good people that are involved in

784
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,520
that church. 
It's just a lot of people in 

785
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,560
leadership, which I'm coming to 
kind of realize more and more 

786
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,480
nowadays is a lot of these 
people that are, you know, in 

787
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,040
positions of authority with the 
church kind of abuse and, you 

788
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,640
know, their power and kind of 
miss the bigger picture, you 

789
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,840
know, right. 
You know, I, I, I see an 

790
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,600
interesting thing reflected. 
I heard a quote recently and 

791
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,880
maybe I'm I'm going to 
paraphrase it. 

792
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,160
I'm not going to have it 
perfect. 

793
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:46,960
And I don't know, it's not the 
most sort of insightful quote, 

794
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,560
but I think it's interesting to 
put in the context of what 

795
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,880
you're saying here is that 
bureaucracy is not bureaucracy 

796
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,120
is concerned with process, not 
outcome. 

797
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,600
So the very spirit of 
bureaucracy, which of course we 

798
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,080
commonly think of in, you know, 
the governments or law 

799
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,200
enforcement or the courts or 
even organizations like 

800
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,800
nonprofits. 
And again, for better or for 

801
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,360
worse, bureaucracy within the 
church, within the sort of a 

802
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:24,040
church establishments all across
the world, bureaucracy is like a

803
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:31,840
can be a dominant spirit. 
And it's very difficult, I think

804
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:38,800
for guys like us, even at our 
most gracious and our most good 

805
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:45,600
intentions, sort of attitudes to
let the spirit of bureaucracy be

806
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,720
more concerned with process than
with outcome. 

807
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:55,280
And, you know, of course, we see
this concept playing out in all 

808
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,520
sorts of different ways. 
It explains 90% of the sort of 

809
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,000
government, or it's at least the
excuse for 90% of government 

810
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,400
ineptitude or government 
failures. 

811
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,720
It's just always a matter of 
bureaucracy. 

812
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,960
This. 
They didn't go through the right

813
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,800
channels. 
They didn't send the paperwork. 

814
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,240
Don't even get me started on, 
you know, paperwork as a form of

815
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:23,160
magic. 
I mean an oppressive magical 

816
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,440
force that runs every 
bureaucracy that we have on 

817
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,840
earth. 
I mean the top bringing the 

818
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,400
written word as the form of 
magic to the Egyptian kings, 

819
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:39,920
then, you know, evolving into 
Babylonian money magic, and now 

820
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,920
our own bureaucracy. 
The mundanity, the the, the 

821
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,720
absolute insufferable sort of 
boringness that is at the heart 

822
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:53,400
not a side effect. 
It is the feature of bureaucracy

823
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,760
is this sort of boring, mind 
numbing process. 

824
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,480
And if the process doesn't 
happen, it doesn't matter what 

825
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,200
the outcome is. 
It's about the process. 

826
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,840
And this is a great example of 
times. 

827
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,000
There are many times in life 
when this is true, but in 

828
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:16,720
moments of destruction and 
sorrow and disaster, process 

829
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,280
doesn't feel as important to 
real human beings. 

830
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,760
Like to an actual human. 
The the outcome is affecting 

831
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,720
real human beings, the boots on 
the ground. 

832
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:35,960
Real human beings outcome is 
primary, but when bureaucracy, 

833
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,320
bureaucracy as a, as an entity, 
you know, if you think about it 

834
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,840
as a spiritual entity or a 
principality whose primary 

835
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,320
operating doctrine is process 
and, and paperwork and you know,

836
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:56,720
this sort of ancient magic of 
disruption of outcome. 

837
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,760
It's like the number one 
horrible thing you we hear about

838
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,080
this entire thing. 
It's the thing that kept people 

839
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,720
away. 
It's the thing that kept the, 

840
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,240
you know, got people arrested 
for helping out and it's Amen. 

841
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,880
You know, it's unfortunately, if
you have any desire at all to 

842
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:20,640
sort of navigate empire, which 
is, you know, in the society 

843
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,040
that the structure of our 
society today. 

844
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,800
You know, you think about going 
to the DMV, you think about 

845
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,960
getting licenses, permits, stuff
like this. 

846
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,800
It's required to navigate the 
empire, but in order to navigate

847
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:41,320
the empire on the empire's 
rules, it requires submitting 

848
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,480
yourself to this bureaucratic 
sort of occult principle. 

849
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,520
And that's what I think is so in
a, in such a deep level that 

850
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,760
people might not even be 
cognizant of. 

851
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,560
That's why the boots on the 
ground activities from the boots

852
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:03,320
on the ground dudes and and 
dudettes is such a revolutionary

853
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,960
idea. 
It inspires the human heart 

854
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:10,480
because it is a rebellion 
against the sort of oppressive, 

855
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,640
I don't know, the oppressive 
tyranny of bureaucracy, which 

856
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,160
has everybody sort of enslaved 
in different ways these days. 

857
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,320
But but to see the human heart 
explode like that, it's a really

858
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,520
godly thing. 
It's a really healing thing just

859
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,440
to witness it. 
And so I thank you for being a 

860
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,560
sort of representative of that. 
And again, like I said, so many 

861
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,400
people like to think that they 
would kick the tyranny and kick 

862
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,280
the bureaucracy and head out 
there and do boots on the 

863
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,280
ground. 
But the fact that so few have is

864
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:55,440
such a testament to such a 
testament to the power of of 

865
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,400
that force. 
So I consider you a spiritual 

866
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,040
revolutionary, a spiritual 
rebel, not just a, you know, a 

867
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,480
physical helper in times of 
need. 

868
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,520
So it sounds like your 
interaction with organizations 

869
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:17,480
like the church there were sort 
of Hanford perhaps even 

870
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,200
sabotaged by this occult 
principle of bureaucracy. 

871
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,680
Did you find yourself finding 
any resistance from from others,

872
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,600
or was it primarily that that 
particular church? 

873
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,920
No, just that particular church.
And then obviously, you know, 

874
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,600
before I showed up, FEMA in the 
government, which is why they do

875
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,840
open carryover at Camp Miller, 
because they don't want the 

876
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,560
bureaucracy, They don't want the
red tape. 

877
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,600
They don't want, oh, hey, you 
have to be a part of this 

878
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,640
government approved organization
to be able to help these people.

879
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,760
Like there's like, no, we're 
just people helping people. 

880
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:52,800
Stop. 
Yeah. 

881
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,120
You know did. 
You did you find that you had, I

882
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,440
don't know, maybe missed out on 
some aid or something? 

883
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,200
We heard the stories about FEMA 
passing up Trump supporting 

884
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,880
houses for relief and things 
like that. 

885
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,640
And again, I want to recognize 
that even though bureaucracy is,

886
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,240
is a tyrannical power, that 
there's still people in those 

887
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,960
offices. 
You know, there may be the 

888
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,480
office of a sheriff, but that 
sheriff is a human being with a 

889
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,040
heart and a connection to God 
just as much as the rest of us. 

890
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,720
Did you, did you have any 
interaction? 

891
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:30,200
Not just interaction, but do you
feel like maybe you lost support

892
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,880
or missed out on some support 
because of the way you're doing 

893
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,560
things? 
No, in fact it actually 

894
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,960
expanded. 
So we had these these 3 semi 

895
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,000
trucks that were parked across 
the street from the church where

896
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,920
I was basically camped right 
down the road from Camp Miller. 

897
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,080
And these things were absolutely
like just packed full with 

898
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,240
eaters, food, water, winter 
clothes, I mean, you name it, 

899
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,080
propane tanks, everything, 
right? 

900
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,600
And it was just sitting there 
and it's just like, this stuff's

901
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,080
not being distributed. 
People are like, you know, going

902
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,880
through and like just walking in
just complete chaos. 

903
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,160
And it's just like, there's no 
structure, there's no 

904
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,640
organization or anything like 
that. 

905
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,520
So I talked to one of the 
leaders over at Camp Miller and 

906
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,160
was just like, this stuff was 
all donated from like, you know,

907
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,320
local churches and stuff and 
like even churches far and wide.

908
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,080
And this church isn't doing 
anything with it. 

909
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,160
All they're doing is building 
their church. 

910
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,320
They, they had a construction 
crew there every single day. 

911
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,680
And it's just like, why don't 
you guys come over? 

912
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,480
Let's take all this stuff over 
to Camp Miller and let's start 

913
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:41,040
getting it out to people, you 
know, And I they, they brought 

914
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,840
like, I don't know, I want to 
say like 10 different people, 

915
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,600
couple flatbed trailers and 
stuff. 

916
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,280
And we took as much as we could 
over to Camp Miller. 

917
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,960
And then I remember getting 
ready to make a fire late at 

918
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,720
night and I saw like a piece of 
cardboard that was in one of the

919
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,760
semi trucks and it was from the 
Deacon. 

920
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,080
And it said anybody that needs 
anything or whatever, like come 

921
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,360
talk to the church. 
We are not affiliated with Camp 

922
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,320
Miller. 
Thank you. 

923
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,760
And I just remember smiling just
being like, OK, they're trying 

924
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,800
to make it seem like we're 
stealing stuff. 

925
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,480
No, we're just taking it down 
the road to a group that is 

926
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,080
actually capable of passing this
stuff out. 

927
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,600
I mean, like, we've got logs and
logs and logs of people, their 

928
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,160
names, their numbers, their 
location, what they are in need 

929
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,600
of. 
And we are literally taking side

930
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,480
by sides and like, you know, my 
Jeep up mountains and stuff to 

931
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,120
try to distribute this stuff to 
the people in need. 

932
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,440
And then you've got this church 
that is upset about that. 

933
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,560
Maybe it's because they want 
recognition. 

934
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,360
They want I I don't know. 
Bureaucracy, man, they got 

935
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,920
exactly got people paying 
attention to their paperwork. 

936
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,880
Well, let me say this, Aaron. 
You did mention, you know, there

937
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,320
was Texas Rangers that came in 
on horseback that were going 

938
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,040
places where you couldn't get 
the side by side in the Jeeps, 

939
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,680
right? 
Let's even talk a little bit 

940
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,240
about that. 
And then some of these 

941
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:06,800
highlights, just neighbors 
helping their neighbors. 

942
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,320
At one point in time, there was 
like suicide messages that were 

943
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,280
found older couples that for 
like weeks on end just had no 

944
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,680
contact with the outside world 
that are up in these these 

945
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,520
pathways, right? 
I mean, the ranging stories, I 

946
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,840
know it's a lot to put on you 
right now because we're doing 

947
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,960
this interview. 
You have your notes, you're 

948
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,760
fresh, kind of out of the 
territory, actually getting 

949
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,360
ready to go back in after your 
leg heals. 

950
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,560
But I want to hit at least two 
of these highlights. 

951
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,560
Texas Rangers come in on 
horseback, right? 

952
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,240
And then one or two testimonies,
dude, that are just heartfelt, 

953
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:42,640
like neighbors are rescuing 
neighbors. 

954
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,480
That's the body of Christ at 
this point. 

955
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,600
I think we're starting to see 
very clearly here what's 

956
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,880
happening. 
Yeah. 

957
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,400
So here's kind of like the list 
that we're using to operate, 

958
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,400
just like your address, your 
name, all these things, what you

959
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,880
need done. 
A lot of them were a lot more 

960
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,560
extensive than others. 
But yes, no, there were some 

961
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,800
Cowboys and stuff that came into
town with donkeys to be able to 

962
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,800
get up these, these trails that 
were literally like just 

963
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,120
completely destroyed. 
And you've got people that live 

964
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,560
on top of mountains that can't 
get down from their house. 

965
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,440
I mean, there was people that 
literally when I got there, it 

966
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,000
was their first time having a 
warm meal and I don't know, 

967
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:29,720
three weeks, 4 weeks, something 
like that and couldn't get out 

968
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,160
of their house, didn't know what
was going on with their 

969
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,320
neighbors. 
There's a lot of elderly people 

970
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,560
in that community in this 
specific valley. 

971
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:42,920
But yeah, no, they, they went up
these mountains and just would 

972
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,920
go from house to house and 
deliver medication and food and 

973
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,160
clothes and do very, very 
similar things like this. 

974
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,040
Like, hey, what do you need? 
And a lot of these people are 

975
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,760
just like, you know, I'm good, 
I'm good. 

976
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,880
And it's just like, OK, well, 
no, no, no, you're not. 

977
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,680
Take this and this not just for 
a day, but at least a week, if 

978
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,400
not more. 
And then do you have like a 

979
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,640
neighbor that you know, around 
this area that have you talked 

980
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,200
to them? 
And then they would just go from

981
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,480
that house to that house and 
just farther up the mountain and

982
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,880
just going out of their way to 
like just find people, you know,

983
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,440
because there's, there was a lot
of people that felt like they 

984
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,680
got left behind. 
And you just have the body of 

985
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,400
Christ like people helping 
people and just trying to find 

986
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,880
people and help them. 
I heard story after story. 

987
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Mystique is one that definitely 
comes to mind. 

988
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,600
She moved from Miami, her and 
her husband, and they've got 

989
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,600
three beautiful children. 
And she had told me 

990
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,800
specifically, you know, like I 
moved to the mountains to get 

991
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,480
away from Florida and away from 
all the Hurricanes. 

992
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,640
And I literally just moved here 
last year. 

993
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,160
And she showed me videos. 
Her house was just completely 

994
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:02,920
swept away from a big mudslide. 
They're able to get out last 

995
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,880
minute. 
And she just, I remember her 

996
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,680
breaking down. 
Just I never thought in a 

997
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,640
million years that this would 
even be a thing. 

998
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,280
You know, we live in the 
mountains and we heard that 

999
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,840
there was like a hurricane 
coming. 

1000
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,560
And it's just like there was no 
warning. 

1001
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,360
There was no nothing. 
You know, we not even allowed to

1002
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,280
have flood insurance here. 
It's it's an afterthought. 

1003
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,240
You don't even think about it. 
So when this happened, 

1004
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,840
especially in the mountains in 
the mud slides and everything 

1005
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,240
and just these rivers not being 
able to handle that much rain 

1006
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,560
that was just sitting on top of 
them for that long. 

1007
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,280
I mean, like I said, the sheer 
destruction. 

1008
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,720
But they would come every single
day. 

1009
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,840
They would cook or have like two
or three meals and I brought 

1010
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,600
like a little Chipo game and 
like, you know, my, I don't know

1011
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,600
my golf clubs and like, you 
know, some wiffle ball bats and 

1012
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,520
stuff just because I kind of 
figured, you know what, like 

1013
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,160
these kids probably need to have
a little bit of time to have a 

1014
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,480
little bit of joy. 
And that was honestly one of the

1015
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:01,120
biggest things, like just people
having a warm meal, being able 

1016
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,640
to hit a couple golf balls, hit 
a couple wiffle balls and just 

1017
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,640
seeing that joyous spirit again.
It meant more than anything. 

1018
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,160
These people just lost their 
home and it's almost like they 

1019
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,400
forgot about it for a moment, 
you know, and just the amount of

1020
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:21,800
love and just fellowship and 
it's amazing, absolutely 

1021
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,360
amazing. 
So definitely one of the most 

1022
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,880
impactful testimonies that, you 
know, I had gathered. 

1023
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,120
There's, there's honestly so 
many. 

1024
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,560
I could spend hours talking 
about all these testimonies, 

1025
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,920
very, very heartfelt and just 
when people rise up to help 

1026
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,360
people. 
Yes. 

1027
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,240
Man it, it directs people 
towards God. 

1028
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,120
I remember saying this. 
I prayed for it every single 

1029
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,000
opportunity I got to pray for 
somebody. 

1030
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,080
Nobody ever rejected if I asked,
like, can I pray for you? 

1031
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,840
Nobody ever said no. 
You know how many times I heard 

1032
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,080
left versus right, black versus 
white, any of these things when 

1033
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,200
I was there, you know, the 
election, anything, you know, 

1034
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,680
Republican versus Democrat, 
zero. 

1035
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,120
It was all just about, wow, 
there's so much love here. 

1036
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,000
That's it. 
I mean like, honestly. 

1037
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:19,240
If I could, yeah, this love. 
Never underestimate the power of

1038
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,800
love. 
And that's exactly what I saw, 

1039
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,760
felt experienced. 
And I can't wait to get more so.

1040
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,160
Bro, hearing that it's it 
explains to me why I'm not 

1041
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,280
hearing anything else in the 
media about it. 

1042
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,520
I mean, it's disasters and 
emergencies are always so sad 

1043
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,440
and always so impactful, but it 
is an opportunity for the human 

1044
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,280
spirit to connect around what 
matters the absolute most. 

1045
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,000
And like you said, loving one 
another, loving God, God's love 

1046
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:58,320
moving through US. 
And that is, that is not a 

1047
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,960
message that the enemy wants to 
get out there. 

1048
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:06,920
You know, in amongst the reports
of nuclear missiles and, you 

1049
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:12,160
know, the fascist dictator 
coming to take office and all 

1050
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,480
the madness that the theater 
that is this world that we live 

1051
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,600
in, it's no wonder. 
Man, so can I. 

1052
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,960
Can I butt in and ask you? 
Because Canary Cry Radio has 

1053
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:29,600
always been a beam of happiness 
and light heralding this madness

1054
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,720
and fear. 
And so how are you guys handling

1055
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,760
that, if you don't mind me? 
Like and gone. 

1056
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,000
Soon I was. 
I was going. 

1057
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,760
On the edge, bro. 
Yeah, we are on the edge. 

1058
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,800
We're on the edge and we're 
laughing like hyenas, you know, 

1059
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,440
really psychotically or, you 
know, to keep it light hearted. 

1060
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,440
I was just going to say that, 
you know, one of the, the things

1061
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:53,600
that really made the Christian 
faith in general, it was clear 

1062
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,320
for me because I didn't grow up 
in the church. 

1063
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,480
So my perception of the church 
was very different. 

1064
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,720
I think I talked about that with
Rod last time I was on. 

1065
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:08,520
So when I started to experience 
people relationships and 

1066
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,840
experience God's love through 
those relationships, through 

1067
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,080
those people, it was a whole 
different level. 

1068
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,560
So I've always been very heady 
and I, I've always been very 

1069
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,560
intellectual and I like facts 
and I, you know, I dig into the,

1070
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,560
the data and, and that's just 
how my brain works. 

1071
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,480
But that, that, that is all 
there for foundation, 

1072
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,680
foundational purposes, at least 
for me, for people like me, 

1073
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,120
maybe. 
But the ultimate utility of the 

1074
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,200
church is God's love. 
And so when the love is, you 

1075
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,080
know, what you're doing there, 
Aaron, is a greater form of 

1076
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,600
evangelism, just you being there
and, and helping people and, you

1077
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,400
know, just being that light is 
probably more impactful in terms

1078
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,680
of spreading the gospel. 
Then yes, I can make with some 

1079
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,680
crazy, you know, perfect 
intellectual argument about why 

1080
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,560
God exists or something, you 
know, so there are levels to 

1081
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,960
this and and I just appreciate 
what you're doing it. 

1082
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,360
It takes a lot of courage to get
out there. 

1083
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,560
And I'm not fully up to speed on
everything going on this other 

1084
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,520
side of the coast. 
I'm in the Newsome bubble. 

1085
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,680
We're just trying to fight off 
Democrats over here or 

1086
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,800
something. 
I don't know what's going on in 

1087
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:19,520
California, but but I, I just, 
you know, poking around while 

1088
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,440
you guys were chatting and 
listening in, it seems like the 

1089
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,920
media doesn't want to report on 
any of this stuff, which is 

1090
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,360
interesting because when I was 
growing up, the news always had 

1091
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,160
like one or two feel good 
stories. 

1092
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,640
And it seems like that can be 
part of uplifting everybody in 

1093
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,600
that area who's looking for some
kind of help, some kind of hope,

1094
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,000
you know, if they have access to
TV or news or something, just be

1095
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,000
like, hey, if there's people out
here helping out, maybe, maybe, 

1096
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,040
you know, if they're stuck in a 
situation, they can get helped 

1097
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,200
out. 
But as I was kind of clicking 

1098
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,440
around and looking for some 
articles, Basil, I, I, I found 

1099
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,480
an article about the SBA. 
So I don't know if you want to 

1100
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,160
go into, but it's, I, I did see 
that today. 

1101
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,800
The SBA offered disaster relief 
loans for Debbie, not even for 

1102
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,200
Helene. 
It was for Debbie, which I 

1103
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,160
thought was kind of interesting.
And and the article states that 

1104
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:18,480
the SBA cannot provide disaster 
loans to agricultural producers,

1105
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:23,120
farmers and ranchers apart from 
aquaculture enterprises. 

1106
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,120
So I don't even know what that 
means. 

1107
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,960
I don't know all. 
That means hydroponic weed 

1108
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,760
growing operations or something.
That's what I'm saying, like 

1109
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,400
only hydroponic farms are able 
to get the loans what everybody 

1110
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,840
else can. 
I don't know what's happening, 

1111
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,840
but it seems like there is a a 
clear, I mean, we can call it a 

1112
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,520
there's a narrative battle 
happening with in terms of the 

1113
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,880
the rest of the population 
seeing what's happening there. 

1114
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,920
And then there's, you know, 
boots on the ground. 

1115
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:52,600
It seems like there is a true 
hey, government has this we, we,

1116
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,760
we're going to do it our way as 
opposed to people just showing 

1117
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,320
up and doing it. 
And that's, you know, that that 

1118
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,880
and to your story, Aaron, about 
meeting the beacon of the 

1119
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,360
church. 
I can understand the church 

1120
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,280
beacon or church leader or 
pastor or something feeling very

1121
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,840
protective over their herd, you 
know, and like, Hey, I don't 

1122
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,640
necessarily want to venture out 
or whatever, but it's just 

1123
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:24,760
interesting how that being a 
church, you know, we can all be 

1124
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,760
sort of blinded by our own 
circumstances, you know, when 

1125
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,600
they're whenever somebody is 
coming with the love of Christ 

1126
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,400
and trying to provide something.
So I thought that was 

1127
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,360
interesting. 
But what what's the situation 

1128
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,200
currently? 
So are there still people like, 

1129
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,800
you know, looking for a place to
sleep, a place to live for food?

1130
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,880
Or are there missing people like
I'm, I'm completely in the dark 

1131
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,520
in terms of the current status. 
There's still a lot of missing 

1132
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,560
people. 
OK. 

1133
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,200
It is getting a lot colder. 
Michael, you said that there was

1134
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,080
15 people confirmed that died 
from hypothermia recently. 

1135
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,440
It's. 
It's not come. 

1136
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,680
I don't have the source on that 
except for Jody Halsted, who 

1137
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,120
we've been working together with
in the space in Waynesville, who

1138
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,400
is just on the phone all day and
he couldn't remember which 

1139
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,040
report it was. 
But it's pretty intense like 

1140
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,920
this. 
It's kind of just starting 

1141
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:20,160
because it's getting cold like 
this week, like this is going to

1142
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,680
be intense. 
And it's not like it's the North

1143
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,160
Pole, but it's a rainforest. 
So it's wet cold. 

1144
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,200
You know, you get it kind of 
gets under your skin and under 

1145
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,400
your clothes and then you're 
like, man, I'm really not 

1146
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,360
feeling too good. 
And we're we're praying they're 

1147
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,240
very there's these are proud 
mountain folk, as I don't think 

1148
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,800
you said Easton, we interviewed 
said he was out doing relief and

1149
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,600
part of the Cajun Navy. 
And he said it's it's just so 

1150
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,000
hard to get help to these people
that are like, well, I can do 

1151
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:46,680
it. 
I lived here. 

1152
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,880
My family's about $200. 
You're not doing so much. 

1153
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,600
And it's like, no, take this 
generator. 

1154
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,000
All right, You know, I just few 
miles to bring this to you. 

1155
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,480
And he was with the donkey team 
that Aaron mentioned. 

1156
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,840
So that was cool to. 
Happen to a more resilient 

1157
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,040
people those Appalachians. 
Too. 

1158
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,560
It's very Americana, I have to 
say. 

1159
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,600
Like, these are, these are 
tough, Ruddy people out here, 

1160
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:17,440
Yeah. 
So. 

1161
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,280
We've got enough. 
Oh, I'm sorry. 

1162
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:19,640
Go. 
Ahead. 

1163
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,520
No, no, no. 
Please go. 

1164
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:27,360
We've got enough supplies being 
donated to temporarily help 

1165
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,280
people out. 
We've got enough food, enough 

1166
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,040
clothes and stuff like that. 
We are. 

1167
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,160
It's ever changing. 
So we're kind of transitioning 

1168
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,800
to the phase where, OK, now we 
need to go fight through that 

1169
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,800
red tape and start finding land,
land and stuff for people. 

1170
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,440
Because there's a lot of people 
you talk about like, you know, 

1171
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:49,040
the Appalachian folk that refuse
to take government assistance 

1172
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,080
and do loans and stuff. 
They they read the fine print 

1173
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,880
and they see that that, you 
know, they have to give up 

1174
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,920
collateral. 
They see, you know, the 

1175
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,240
discrepancies and stuff and just
the hoodwinked, you know, 

1176
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,080
generation and stuff. 
You know, it's kind of rising up

1177
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,880
and fighting back, I think. 
But you know, it getting a lot 

1178
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,400
colder and stuff now we do need 
to start having more people like

1179
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,160
Michael and all these other 
people just being able to throw 

1180
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:19,200
whatever they can to actually, I
don't know, offer people, you 

1181
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:24,680
know, at least a somewhat like 
longer solution. 

1182
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,720
You know, like these people 
don't have homes. 

1183
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,960
You know, these people are 
camped out in tents. 

1184
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,600
These people are staying with 
neighbors that are living in 

1185
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,960
homes that are literally like, 
you know, growing mold and stuff

1186
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,880
because there was literally 
sitting water and chemicals all 

1187
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,479
in their house and stuff. 
And a lot of people are getting 

1188
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,880
sick. 
A lot of people are. 

1189
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,680
Yeah, We actually didn't have 
any doctors. 

1190
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,800
That was another thing that 
happened very randomly where 

1191
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:57,120
there was a couple doctors that 
were traveling from Texas and 

1192
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,840
just running into them who have 
Molly. 

1193
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,600
Yeah. 
Molly and her group, they've 

1194
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,000
been run out of several 
different camps where FEMA and 

1195
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,160
the government basically said 
like, no, no, no, no. 

1196
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,720
They're trying to offer like a 
little bit of holistic medicine 

1197
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,160
and they didn't want to be 
attached to any of these 

1198
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,920
government entities or FEMA or 
anything like that. 

1199
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,960
So she was actually very, very 
careful in, you know, kind of 

1200
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,760
interviewing me and making sure 
that, like, you know, I wasn't 

1201
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,359
involved in the government or 
something. 

1202
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:30,240
And I, I'd be able to like, you 
know, have them come out to Camp

1203
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,319
Miller and not have the 
government find out about them. 

1204
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:37,160
So now we have 12 doctors in 
that little valley that are 

1205
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,479
going around and like trying to 
help people out. 

1206
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,200
And anybody that needed medical 
assistance, they're literally 

1207
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,040
going out. 
They had a side by side that was

1208
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,680
donated to them to be able to go
up and down mountains and stuff 

1209
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,439
to go do house calls, you know, 
and offer medicine and 

1210
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,080
everything. 
It's incredible. 

1211
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,640
That that is crazy. 
My goodness, man. 

1212
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,600
You know, in the same way that I
just keep getting, sorry, I keep

1213
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,600
getting a little heady with the 
spiritual stuff. 

1214
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,720
But I again, I'm thinking of 
like the the different powers 

1215
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,320
that work here. 
And kind of in the same way that

1216
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:17,920
that money begets money, like at
its best, capital begets more 

1217
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,760
capital, like it's supposed to 
generate itself. 

1218
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:26,480
You know, it's in the same way 
love begets more love in that 

1219
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:29,160
way. 
And I think about, man, why? 

1220
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,000
Why are we not, if not on the 
nightly news, because who cares?

1221
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,280
Who needs cable news? 
But at least like whatever, 

1222
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,800
going down the timeline on 
Twitter, why am I not seeing 

1223
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:46,120
story after story after story of
resilience and love and, and you

1224
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,120
know, these the types of things 
that you're doing this, this 

1225
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:56,480
amazing comeback story, this, 
this, these pieces of news that 

1226
01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:59,440
could bring just a little, just 
a little bit of hope. 

1227
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:03,080
Because the more that that's 
around, the more people hear 

1228
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,720
about it, the more it can 
generate more love. 

1229
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:10,240
I mean, among other things. 
And it's, it's hard not to get 

1230
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:16,760
frustrated with the, you know, 
the fact that broadcasting that 

1231
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,800
love that goodness, that kind of
stuff, whether it's on cable or 

1232
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,080
whether it's even just in the 
timeline, the algorithms is such

1233
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:27,880
a distraction from it's, it's 
almost like an impurity, a self 

1234
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:33,480
populating impurity in the sort 
of fear based population control

1235
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:35,560
recipe. 
You know, you can't even let 

1236
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,400
like a little bit of it get in 
there because it'll spoil the 

1237
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,040
whole dark evil cake or 
something. 

1238
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,160
And so I hope that this is an 
opportunity for people to 

1239
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,280
understand what's going on and, 
and take whatever opportunity 

1240
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,240
that means for them to kind of 
spread, spread that love. 

1241
01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:57,200
You know, I think there's going 
to be people wondering, and I 

1242
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,280
would wonder too. 
You mentioned people living 

1243
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,840
basically homeless and intense 
and in horrible conditions. 

1244
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,400
And I know for a fact there's 
going to be people out there 

1245
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,800
going just like, well, why don't
they go? 

1246
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,680
Why don't they go to the next 
state over? 

1247
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,840
Why don't they move? 
Why don't they, you know, 

1248
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:21,320
because it seems I just on its 
face, I could, I could see the 

1249
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,800
response of like, OK, it's 
horrible there. 

1250
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:29,560
Why can't they just catch a ride
out to wherever, you know, even 

1251
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,800
the next town over where they're
outside of the physical 

1252
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,320
apocalypse? 
What what's kind of the what's 

1253
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,520
the feeling there? 
What would you say to people who

1254
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,080
are wondering now? 
It's a lot more complex than 

1255
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,880
that. 
I think it's really easy for 

1256
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,920
people outside looking in be 
able to say like, oh, hey, why 

1257
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,120
don't you just go to the next 
town over and stuff. 

1258
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,720
What people don't realize is a 
lot of these people have lived 

1259
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,960
their, their entire lives, 
their, you know, I don't know, 

1260
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,080
generation after generation 
after generation. 

1261
01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:05,200
And a lot of them have property 
that has been destroyed and it's

1262
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,400
very, very valuable. 
And they want to see to it that 

1263
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:08,720
like, you know, they don't lose 
it. 

1264
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,400
It's very complex. 
You can't just pack up and 

1265
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:13,840
leave. 
You're going to leave everything

1266
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,440
behind and you're going to lose 
everything. 

1267
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:17,360
So it's a lot more complex than 
that. 

1268
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:23,240
Or broad multi layered, right? 
I don't know. 

1269
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,480
I mean, I guess put yourself in 
their situation. 

1270
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:29,000
I mean, like, how easy would it 
be for you guys to go ahead and 

1271
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,040
just uproot your entire life and
start all over again, especially

1272
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,600
with like, you know, having a 
wife or children and friends and

1273
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,840
neighbors. 
And you know, that's the. 

1274
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,720
PTSD, right? 
So you got to think people are 

1275
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,960
literally working through PTSD. 
We're seeing a little bit of 

1276
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:50,800
like people come out of it from 
love being actionary, people 

1277
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,720
stepping in and you're seeing a 
little bit of humanity come back

1278
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:58,640
because trauma in that place of 
fear, the way that that is that 

1279
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,720
it chains up the mind and your. 
Ability to to. 

1280
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,680
Think clearly is is pretty deep 
right and so how many people 

1281
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,880
lost family members in that 
region like Uncle Bob's dead 

1282
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,520
down in that ditch. 
We're not going anywhere until, 

1283
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,040
you know, we did this ditch out 
in the whole valley out and 

1284
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,680
whatever I mean, and then the 
whole generational thing and you

1285
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,640
know guns. 
I really kind of wanted to ask 

1286
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,560
you, even with the spiritual 
environment, like as deep as you

1287
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,680
guys go into this and as much of
insight that you have, the 

1288
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,600
spiritual legalities over 
something like this, with all 

1289
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,800
the tug of war of principalities
and powers, what would you do? 

1290
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:38,800
Like a 30,000 foot view on 
captivity, fear and then the 

1291
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,440
light of Christ trying to shine 
into that. 

1292
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,440
A face like the sun if I may. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1293
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,280
I mean, these principalities and
powers have always been 

1294
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,720
described as territorial 
spirits. 

1295
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:56,280
So they've probably have certain
jurisdiction over various 

1296
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:01,400
regions. 
And if, if there was some plan 

1297
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,760
or some desire for these 
principalities and powers to, I 

1298
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:11,120
don't know, change the landscape
of the kind of people that live 

1299
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:15,000
in certain parts of the world, 
then it's entirely possible that

1300
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,920
there were, you know, messaging 
that would come from the 

1301
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:23,480
spiritual realm to who knows 
what, what trickled down in 

1302
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:26,760
terms of the bureaucratic 
process or, or governments or, 

1303
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,800
or whatever. 
And, yeah, I mean, it's, it's I,

1304
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,640
I see this and the people 
staying there in the resilience,

1305
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,600
you know, on top of just, hey, 
this is my property. 

1306
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,120
This is generations, you know, 
maybe hundreds of years of my 

1307
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,440
family lying here, you know, 
taking care of this land. 

1308
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,880
Yeah, I can see them pushing. 
And I think we should, you know,

1309
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,240
getting more fired up as I 
realized because I came into 

1310
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,840
this conversation again, not 
knowing fully the situation I 

1311
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,600
had. 
But yeah, I think we need to get

1312
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,880
the the word out because at the 
very least, people praying for 

1313
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,760
those folks there, even if they 
don't even know that there's 

1314
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:07,040
people praying, could make a big
difference in just preserving 

1315
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,680
the kind of people that are 
there that are trying to get 

1316
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,160
pushed out. 
You know, if we're looking at it

1317
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,680
from that 30 foot or 30,000 foot
spiritual perspective, it does 

1318
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,840
feel like that land, not just a 
land grab of but hey, let's try 

1319
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,000
to get these guys out of here. 
We'll send them a storm, send 

1320
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,400
them a whatever, send them 
government, you know, FEMA 

1321
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,040
papers that say we own this land
now because it's a disaster 

1322
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:36,320
location or whatever. 
But if enough people are aware 

1323
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:40,440
of it through not just, you 
know, the awareness on social 

1324
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:43,360
media or people being loud on, 
on the Internet or something, 

1325
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,680
but beyond that with prayer, I 
think that that kind of thing 

1326
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,320
can be prevented. 
And that ultimately this is, you

1327
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,200
know, every little conflict, 
every situation like this is a 

1328
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:57,680
microcosm of a bigger the entire
war taking place. 

1329
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,560
These are little battles taking 
place. 

1330
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,760
So, you know, just highlighting 
the the current status of 

1331
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,760
everything and and letting 
people know what to pray for. 

1332
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,240
I think it can be very powerful,
important. 

1333
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,400
No, it's huge. 
It's huge. 

1334
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,280
I mean, you think about the 
spiritual significance of people

1335
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,600
standing their ground in that 
place. 

1336
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,360
They have a spiritual 
connection, their familial 

1337
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:29,880
connection, their presence. 
There is a claim spiritually 

1338
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,040
into the land that it belongs to
Americans. 

1339
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:37,960
It doesn't belong to America. 
It belongs to people, children 

1340
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,600
of God, their presence standing 
their ground from principalities

1341
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,120
and powers. 
And just because I know we'll 

1342
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:49,080
have a, a, a various people of 
various sort of ways of thinking

1343
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:50,040
of this. 
You know when we say 

1344
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,720
principalities and powers and 
worldly governors. 

1345
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,640
If you go back to my favorite 
edition of that verse, you know 

1346
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,320
that you could think of that 
literally. 

1347
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,000
You could think of that 
metaphorically, you could think 

1348
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,920
of that allegorically, because 
it is all of that. 

1349
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:07,160
I mean, it's all like you talk 
about the the corporate 

1350
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:11,840
principalities, the court, the 
spirit of American monopolistic 

1351
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:17,600
corporate power whose number one
goal, stated goal and legal 

1352
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:23,000
responsibility is to extract as 
much wealth from the earth and 

1353
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,480
from people as possible. 
And you know, I don't need to 

1354
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:29,680
get into the whole conspiracy 
theory or whatever, but that's 

1355
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,760
very valuable and important 
land. 

1356
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,440
And it's very valuable and 
important in different ways to 

1357
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:41,880
different people to the 
corporate sort of dark spirits 

1358
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,800
that that rule obviously our 
society. 

1359
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,800
I mean, that's very valuable 
land in in capital and in 

1360
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:53,720
resources in, you know, it, it 
creates a new market for 

1361
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,640
extraction, not just from the 
ground, but from people as well.

1362
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:02,040
And it's the people, the 
spiritual connection to the land

1363
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,840
that these people are saying, 
no, this is mine. 

1364
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:10,000
I'm here, I don't care, I don't 
want to sell, I'm not going to 

1365
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,360
run. 
Those are the people who are 

1366
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:18,280
protecting God's creation in 
that area from, who knows, 

1367
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:26,800
possible absolute extortion by, 
by the corporate powers, the 

1368
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:31,400
principalities and powers. 
So you know, in a way people, of

1369
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,320
course, they're, they're, 
they're, they're in pure 

1370
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:38,640
survival mode. 
They're not thinking in in ways 

1371
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,160
that somebody like us or like a 
listener maybe sitting on their 

1372
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:46,480
couch or making dinner in their 
warm home and their their food 

1373
01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:48,480
that they have so much of or 
whatever. 

1374
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:51,840
And of course there's people who
are not that lucky, but someone 

1375
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,280
there thinking like, oh, why 
don't they just go to a warm 

1376
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,400
house with food and stuff. 
You know, these are it's an 

1377
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:03,840
entirely different. 
I mean, honestly, spiritual 

1378
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:08,120
posture, these people are into, 
into recovery, protection, 

1379
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:13,080
survival in both in the physical
and in the spiritual. 

1380
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,560
So I, I thank you for letting me
process that out loud because 

1381
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,560
that I think that answers that 
question for me and I hope it 

1382
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,280
gains some insight for other 
people. 

1383
01:20:21,480 --> 01:20:24,320
I was going to preach, preach, 
preach. 

1384
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,400
I was preaching. 
I was going to say that, you 

1385
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,320
know, people always ask me like,
are we in the end times? 

1386
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,520
Are we in the end times? 
And obviously we are. 

1387
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,160
Every moment is closer to the 
return of Christ. 

1388
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,240
But there is an element that 
people don't consider enough, 

1389
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,520
which is our role in the 
unfolding of the end times. 

1390
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:46,200
And you know, if the church just
like keeled over and was like, 

1391
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,680
you know, government, take a 
whatever, we just keeled over 

1392
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,360
and everything, I think the end 
times will come way faster, you 

1393
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,240
know, and so I there are there's
something to be said about 

1394
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,080
actual action, you know, like 
pushing back against the 

1395
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,880
principalities and powers and 
what that looks like. 

1396
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,240
And for I think this is a great 
example because, you know, it 

1397
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,800
seems like whether you don't 
have to go down the rabbit hole 

1398
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,840
of, hey, the do the government's
control the weather and did they

1399
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,200
spin up a hurricane and try to 
mess things up? 

1400
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,960
I mean, you could do that, which
is a fascinating conversation. 

1401
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,640
And I wouldn't doubt, you know, 
the the capabilities are there, 

1402
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,560
at least according to my 
research. 

1403
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:25,080
So that's one thing, but also 
how how do the people respond to

1404
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,240
it? 
Because if it is, if, if it is 

1405
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,880
just like a hey, yeah, they're 
just too powerful. 

1406
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,720
We're just going to keel over 
and, yeah, let them take the 

1407
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,080
land, let them take the 
resources, and we'll move 

1408
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:34,840
somewhere else. 
Wow. 

1409
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,440
And start somewhere else. 
You know, if we push back, the 

1410
01:21:38,440 --> 01:21:40,240
timeline of the end times can 
even change. 

1411
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,360
So, you know, this is just part 
of the things that we can be 

1412
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,720
expressing, thinking about and 
and supporting the folks there. 

1413
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,080
So, yeah, that's good stuff. 
Good stuff. 

1414
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,480
Yeah. 
Amen. 

1415
01:21:51,480 --> 01:21:54,200
I haven't no posturing, right? 
I mean, like this is like the 

1416
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,680
body of Christ rising back up. 
You know, you have those amazing

1417
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:01,600
documentaries, Age of deceit and
you know, you were just talking 

1418
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,160
guys about, you know, why isn't,
you know, this inspirational 

1419
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,200
like good things that are 
happening in the mountains? 

1420
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,520
Like why isn't that being 
broadcasted, right? 

1421
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,520
And it's just like, well, you 
know, here's another pun for 

1422
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,000
you. 
Age of deceit, right? 

1423
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,360
We got that age of defeat. 
They want us defeated. 

1424
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,360
They don't want all this good 
messaging and heavenly posturing

1425
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,080
being spread around. 
They don't want they want 

1426
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,200
everybody to think that the time
is nigh. 

1427
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,880
We lose no matter what we do. 
It's the end of times. 

1428
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:35,280
The government, they're too big,
they're too strong that we 

1429
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,760
can't, we can't do it. 
There's nothing to do. 

1430
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,480
We're defeated, right? 
Yeah. 

1431
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,960
So they don't want this kind of 
messaging getting out there. 

1432
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:45,960
Yeah, I know I can. 
Agree with you there. 

1433
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,280
It's too. 
Powerful. 

1434
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,400
It's too powerful. 
Well, Michael Basham, so I kind 

1435
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,040
of want to ask with you being in
the vicinity of the area, I 

1436
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,360
think it was last year around 
this time we had did that 

1437
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,800
broadcast talking about, you 
know, small town witches and 

1438
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,640
trolls literally trying to 
infiltrate every level of 

1439
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,800
government and do some really 
dark and gnarly things. 

1440
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,560
Well, now you know, we have guns
kind of putting the the 

1441
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,280
spiritual, you know, twist on it
like with the the 

1442
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,520
principalities, powers, rulers. 
We have boots on the ground. 

1443
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,880
We have Basil just really 
thinking deeper for us and and 

1444
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,560
proving this multi layered. 
How is all of this fitting in 

1445
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,560
with your experience from this, 
this slice of the Carolinas? 

1446
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,120
Like what what is going through 
your mind? 

1447
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,920
What is your experiences right 
now? 

1448
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,880
Help me understand what it's 
like where your base is. 

1449
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,760
One word revolution. 
Wait, No 2 words. 

1450
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:41,840
Revival, revolution and the word
of God in our mouths. 

1451
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,640
Not religion, not tradition. 
There's poverty in these 

1452
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,480
mountains. 
They're not ready for all the 

1453
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:53,320
witches. 
Asheville is like hell on earth.

1454
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,720
When you go there, if you have 
any spiritual sensitivity and 

1455
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,200
you're a Christian, it's like a 
zombie movie. 

1456
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,920
It's like Resident Evil Village.
It's really like that. 

1457
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:05,680
And we were praying. 
We have prophecies in this 

1458
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,880
prayer team. 
The glory of God will come down 

1459
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:14,000
upon Waynesville from the 
heavens and extend out into all 

1460
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,520
the nations from this little 
tiny town. 

1461
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,640
That's how we how we operate and
that water as sad as all these 

1462
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,560
stories are you're hearing guys,
it's it's now you're seeing the 

1463
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,920
warriors rise. 
I'm seeing humility I'm seeing 

1464
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,080
people are open to the word 
whereas before you people are 

1465
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,120
just like I got out of my church
over there. 

1466
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,440
Now they're coming to like heavy
duty Bible studies. 

1467
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:39,280
I mean, we're, we're word freaks
over here and you guys 

1468
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,200
listening, this is a call to 
action. 

1469
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:45,160
You need to get in the Bible and
get that word in your life day 

1470
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,440
in and day out. 
Support Canary cry radio, 

1471
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,240
millennial mustard seed, fringe 
radio network teams. 

1472
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,000
We've got let's get jacked up as
saying hi. 

1473
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,680
By the way, the boys from there.
There's all these teams that 

1474
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,840
were coming together and we love
each other, the love of the, the

1475
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,600
unity of the brethren. 
But why do we do that? 

1476
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,400
Because we're all like into 
Trump or we hate corruption. 

1477
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,000
Mormons and Buddhists hate them.
Corruption loved Trump. 

1478
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:13,520
Amazing. 
You know, Yeah. 

1479
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,440
I mean, this is the thing God's 
about to do something here and 

1480
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:19,800
he is doing it. 
And it's going to be pray for 

1481
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,240
us. 
You're going to see the church 

1482
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,720
people freak out. 
I have a church that they're 

1483
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,840
guarding this guy that's he's on
investigation for child 

1484
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,440
grooming. 
And the church kicked out his 

1485
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,800
his soon to be ex-wife because 
she wouldn't honor him. 

1486
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:35,920
What other groomers are in that 
church? 

1487
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,360
There's this huge mega church, 
middle of nowhere. 

1488
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:39,680
It's like, where do they get the
money? 

1489
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,680
What's going on here? 
So there's a lot of filthiness. 

1490
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:47,040
I was involved in politics last 
year and little Michael Basham 

1491
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,000
with this little podcast thing, 
except fringe radio network's 

1492
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,160
big, but they asked me to do 
their media. 

1493
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,560
So I got to see first hand 
witches coming out of the 

1494
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:01,520
woodwork publicly curse this 
campaign, all the bigoted Trump 

1495
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,560
people. 
And I was like, man, there's 

1496
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,360
like, this is a conservative, 
beautiful little mountain town 

1497
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:12,080
and it's just crawling with 
insane communists, organized, 

1498
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:16,440
funded, bringing in homeless 
people by the busload. 

1499
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,160
And the local people rose up and
they it was Team Waynesville. 

1500
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,520
You can listen to the podcast 
from a year ago, exactly a year 

1501
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,560
ago. 
So it's been amazing, you know? 

1502
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,640
Spiritual Insurgency Man is so 
interesting and you guys are 

1503
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:34,640
just like right there on it. 
Gonz is going to represent he 

1504
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:39,400
and I in another call that he 
needs to take, but I'll have 

1505
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:44,880
another 1020 minutes and yeah, 
this is work for you. 

1506
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,720
Thank you guys appreciate you 
guys letting me be here and keep

1507
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,920
me in keep me in keep yeah stay 
in touch with me. 

1508
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:52,320
I need. 
I want to know everything going 

1509
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,800
on. 
I did want to play this because 

1510
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,520
I I feel this ISO. 
Let's invite some dudes over in 

1511
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,440
fellowship tonight. 
That's that's what. 

1512
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:06,160
It is right here. 
Guns, man, It's it's always an 

1513
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,280
honor that's. 
Pretty good. 

1514
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,560
Somebody's been working on 
their, their Japanese there, you

1515
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,320
know, that's just. 
Japanese my entire life for 

1516
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,000
this. 
I've been working on Tagalog. 

1517
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,240
No one else I know that is 
Americanized that also is 

1518
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,160
interested in learning Tagalog. 
So that leaves me and my wife. 

1519
01:27:25,480 --> 01:27:27,960
Yeah, you can go to to the 
Philippines. 

1520
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,000
You'll you'll brew in that 
place, Yeah. 

1521
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,120
Yeah, well, I mean, there's, 
there's a lot of meekness there 

1522
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,440
that will roll from those 
islands at some point, just like

1523
01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:40,520
many of the places, man. 
And you know, Gans, I just want 

1524
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,320
to thank you. 
I know you're cutting out to go 

1525
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,160
represent Canary Cry somewhere 
else, man. 

1526
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:48,840
And I just want to bless you and
just say, yes, man, you're, 

1527
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,640
you're a giant in the spirit. 
And I don't say that to puff 

1528
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,200
your head up. 
I say that to say you have 

1529
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,640
rippled out. 
There's a a scripture in Hebrews

1530
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,680
that says cast not away your 
confidence, which has great 

1531
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,800
recompense of reward. 
Amen and. 

1532
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,840
I'll just leave you with that. 
So we talk again, which I hope, 

1533
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,120
praise God is soon. 
Yeah, thank you. 

1534
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,240
Appreciate it. 
And yeah, stay in touch. 

1535
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,560
God bless you guys. 
See you again. 

1536
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:18,040
Bless you. 
OK, now that dad's out of here, 

1537
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:24,960
we can really talk about it. 
The age of deceit stuff is is 

1538
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,240
legendary, right? 
And and your guys shows are just

1539
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,640
legendary. 
And then even with Michael 

1540
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:35,400
Basham and just the background 
there and what we started out 

1541
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,240
talking about this cloak of love
over all of this. 

1542
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,120
And then we have the willingness
of a guy like Aaron. 

1543
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,600
I think he landed at blurry 
creatures originally, right? 

1544
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,600
You listened through that. 
Somehow you got the prophecy 

1545
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,120
watchers. 
And then I think you talked 

1546
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,240
about this on one of the 
recordings on the mustard seed. 

1547
01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:53,560
But then you're like, then I 
found the millennial mustard 

1548
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:57,920
seed, right? 
And now God is slingshotting you

1549
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,760
out into a place where we're 
collaborating with the people 

1550
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,000
that you originally started 
listening to. 

1551
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,960
You're acting on behalf of your 
faith and now you're coming back

1552
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,480
and reporting to some of these 
groups. 

1553
01:29:07,480 --> 01:29:11,160
And I'm just like watching it 
like this is there's interesting

1554
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,840
anointing on this. 
This is not just like you can't 

1555
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,120
make this up. 
We couldn't plan this. 

1556
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,920
This is like there's an 
anointing on this. 

1557
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,520
It's it's pretty powerful stuff.
It's. 

1558
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:21,960
Incredible. 
You know, and it's, I think it 

1559
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,520
mirrors the situation with you 
going out to North Carolina as 

1560
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,560
well. 
This is going to be, this might 

1561
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,320
be a little laborious, but let 
me see if I can get us through 

1562
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,320
it. 
You know, lots of people feel 

1563
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:39,520
called to go out and help, but 
very few do. 

1564
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:47,760
But anybody who does make the 
decision and move their feet in 

1565
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,320
the direction that their mind or
their heart wants them to go can

1566
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,240
do it. 
It's not as it it, there's no 

1567
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,520
gate. 
I mean, I there's various 

1568
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,520
versions of a gatekeeper or 
whatever, but if somebody wants 

1569
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,320
to do it and they want to do it 
enough that they take the 

1570
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,400
actions to do it, they can do 
it. 

1571
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:10,360
They can go be that warrior of 
light in those positions. 

1572
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,440
They can experience the love 
that is generated when people 

1573
01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:16,120
help each other. 
They of course, boots on the 

1574
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:20,080
ground, meeting needs that are 
forgotten by so many others. 

1575
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,360
And all it takes is someone to 
not just want to go, but then 

1576
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,920
boom, tie your shoes and go. 
And in a similar way, and I've 

1577
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:30,840
always kind of, I've never 
described it this way, but when 

1578
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:37,120
it comes to the information part
of the spiritual warfare, which 

1579
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:40,840
you know, those of us who do 
podcasts or or videos or 

1580
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:44,000
whatever live streams, whatever 
it is, I mean, that's what it 

1581
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,600
is. 
So you're the sort of 

1582
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,200
information brigade. 
And in this five fifth 

1583
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,800
generation warfare, like that's 
the front lines in a lot of 

1584
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:57,040
ways, considering that the minds
and spirits of civilians are the

1585
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,480
primary target of 5th 
generational warfare, even 

1586
01:30:59,480 --> 01:31:05,200
between geopolitical rivals. 
And so I say the same thing when

1587
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:15,280
people, it has been an absolute 
joy and pleasure to watch people

1588
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:21,320
rise up with their voices and 
participate in the, the battles 

1589
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,560
and the, the warfare using their
minds and their hearts and the 

1590
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:29,680
spirit that God, God gives them.
And, and in the same way that 

1591
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:33,280
somebody can just choose to 
stand up and walk and be the 

1592
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:39,040
hands and feet of God, there's 
you can also choose and walk. 

1593
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,360
And if you move in the 
direction, I won't say that 

1594
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,040
you're necessarily the mouth of 
God, because that has other 

1595
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:49,240
connotations, but you can maybe 
be the megaphone for what, for 

1596
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,280
the message that God wants to 
get out there. 

1597
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:55,960
You can be the the microphone, 
the tool through which God's 

1598
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,400
will is done in certain areas of
reality here. 

1599
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,240
And it's really is how it is. 
And I think a lot of us have 

1600
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:09,200
this experience where anybody 
out there who has something to 

1601
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:13,960
say, anybody out there who wants
to participate, wants to 

1602
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,240
participate in what God is doing
on the Internet, in the 

1603
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,080
information space, they can do 
it. 

1604
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,880
And in the same way, there's 
millions of people who want to 

1605
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,360
do it, but they don't tie up 
their boots, plug in their 

1606
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:31,200
microphone and actually do it. 
And I want this to be an example

1607
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,720
of how accessible participation 
is. 

1608
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,760
It is not chosen for a few 
special people. 

1609
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:43,520
The only the only obstacle to 
participation is is your own 

1610
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:48,720
shoe tying ability. 
And so Aaron, it's so fun to 

1611
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:53,720
hear your story, not only of 
your your physical work out of 

1612
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,360
South Carolina, but also this 
sort of 5th generational 

1613
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,320
spiritual work of getting the 
message out there. 

1614
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:04,400
And it sounds like Rod, you are 
a primary motivation for him to 

1615
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,360
do that and maybe even a little 
bit of a mentor in that way. 

1616
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:14,040
And that's an incredible, it's 
an incredible example of anybody

1617
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:19,440
out there listening right now. 
Now look, there's a bad way. 

1618
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:24,600
There's a it at my worst of 
which, praise God, I'm not at my

1619
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,080
worst every day, but it is often
at my worst. 

1620
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:34,120
I think to myself, and I say out
loud to whoever will listen, you

1621
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,200
think you can do better. 
You think you could do a better 

1622
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,360
podcast. 
Go start a podcast. 

1623
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,720
Go do your own podcast. 
I want you to do it. 

1624
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,760
That's, that's in the, you know,
when I'm not at my best on a 

1625
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:48,520
certain day, but when I am at my
best, go participate in the 5th 

1626
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:52,520
generation award, go start a 
podcast and you know, go do it. 

1627
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,760
And you don't even, you know, 
starting is another thing. 

1628
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:58,200
Starting is a little bit more 
difficult, but when you just 

1629
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,320
participate, you show up, you 
get in contact, you make it a 

1630
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,360
habit. 
You know, I will say a lot of 

1631
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:08,640
people we, we do, there are a 
number of people out there who 

1632
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,600
will send one e-mail and it gets
buried and they, they get sort 

1633
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:14,160
of upset that they didn't hear 
back. 

1634
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,920
And then that ends their 
possible career and podcasting. 

1635
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,560
And that's, that's too bad. 
But it's really for those who 

1636
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:24,920
tie their laces and take step by
step by step and moving in the 

1637
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,960
direction of what God is doing. 
And so Aaron, you're a great 

1638
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:33,120
example of that in both ways. 
You're like some sort of, you 

1639
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:38,200
know, 5th generational 
paratrooper, you know, all the 

1640
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:45,200
multi domain dominance here. 
So very, very impressed and 

1641
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,520
thank you so much for getting 
the information out that you 

1642
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:51,160
have been getting out. 
Yeah, No thank you. 

1643
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:56,400
Like I said, I, I, I see where 
you're going with this and I, I 

1644
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,440
just kind of want to piggyback 
off of that. 

1645
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,480
So for anybody that thinks that 
you're not capable of like going

1646
01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:06,880
out and doing good things or 
being spirit LED, just listen 

1647
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,360
because God talks to you in his 
own way, right? 

1648
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,360
It could be through a dream, it 
could be through your 

1649
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,640
subconscious, whatever, you 
know, it could be something 

1650
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:21,160
very, very intentional as well. 
And you know, like when I had 

1651
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,120
that moment, you know, like I 
had that choice, you know, it's 

1652
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:25,000
just like, what am I going to 
do? 

1653
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,840
I want to go out there, what, 
what does Aaron want? 

1654
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,000
What does God want? 
And I, I think it really just 

1655
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,480
has to do with like kind of 
turning it off for a second and 

1656
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:35,800
not thinking about like, you 
know, what's comfortable for 

1657
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,920
you, You know, what God's 
calling you and leading you in 

1658
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,320
this way. 
And like there's that we talked 

1659
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,440
about this rod, right? 
That free will, right? 

1660
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,560
God gave me free will. 
He showed me clearly that he 

1661
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,440
wanted me to go out there and 
that there was something greater

1662
01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:54,800
happening. 
And I had that free will to be, 

1663
01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:57,720
you know, answer the call yes or
no. 

1664
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,440
And honestly, when you follow 
God and you're led by the 

1665
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:05,080
Spirit, he does amazing things. 
Again, this has been the most 

1666
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,880
incredible experience. 
Everything. 

1667
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:12,280
I mean, I think there's no words
to really kind of explain the 

1668
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:18,080
Spirit, but when you know, you 
know, and this conversation 

1669
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,280
happening right now, this has 
nothing to do with me. 

1670
01:36:20,440 --> 01:36:22,640
This has nothing to do with Rod.
This has nothing to do with 

1671
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,440
Michael or Basil. 
This is the Spirit bringing 

1672
01:36:26,440 --> 01:36:29,480
everybody together and yes, 
glorifying God. 

1673
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:35,640
Yeah, Amen man, Amen. 
Well, I hope that people do take

1674
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:39,880
some inspiration from this and 
whatever God is pulling them 

1675
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:44,720
towards, and I mean, not to be 
forgotten, Michael, you're out 

1676
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:45,800
there. 
You're still boots on the 

1677
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,400
ground, buddy. 
You're there, you're making it 

1678
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,920
happen. 
Was this? 

1679
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:51,960
Possible. 
You're you're doing my. 

1680
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:57,400
My highlight was being on the On
Your Conspiracy show from 

1681
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,120
Leicester. 
Wow, it's like the Joyce piracy 

1682
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:01,600
theory. 
Joyce piracy? 

1683
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,280
Yes Sir, that's the highlight of
my whole journey here on 

1684
01:37:05,480 --> 01:37:08,600
Internet Battle World. 
You know, what I love about that

1685
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,480
is you were the last episode 
that I did before I stopped 

1686
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:16,600
doing episodes for a while. 
So like the first, the very 

1687
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:21,000
first episode people would come 
across for years was yours. 

1688
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:26,280
And I believe if I remember 
correctly, the title of yours is

1689
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:29,680
TJT versus Michael in quotation 
marks. 

1690
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:33,280
I joined a hippie sex cult or 
something like that. 

1691
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:37,000
Forget what it is. 
So it really gave a very unique 

1692
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:42,960
first impression to the show for
a very long time, which I 

1693
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,240
appreciate. 
No, but this is very powerful. 

1694
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,640
This is extremely powerful being
here with you guys and Rod man, 

1695
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,800
you just keep trucking along. 
I'm very impressed, man. 

1696
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:58,400
I mean, there's we've had plenty
of contact with a lot of great 

1697
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:03,520
guys and gals who are are doing 
the work, putting out the 

1698
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,360
episodes, scheduling the things,
doing it, doing it. 

1699
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:16,320
But it is a a day by day 
achievement to continue doing 

1700
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:20,520
that work as anybody who has 
ever tried to do a podcast and 

1701
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,280
do it consistently and do it 
well. 

1702
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:27,880
It starts as a fun idea, but 
then it very much becomes a 

1703
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:31,720
focus of your life and it has 
to, or else it doesn't happen. 

1704
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,640
Oh you, you have spoken the 
perfect word in the perfect 

1705
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,040
season of my life, so it's 
funny. 

1706
01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:40,640
Praise me to He who speaketh 
through me. 

1707
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:45,960
I mean, feel like I'm. 
Going to start using that. 

1708
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:52,240
As we start to understand the 
body coming together and what 

1709
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,320
God is doing in this day and 
age. 

1710
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,800
Basil, I think he brought this 
up earlier on and actually had 

1711
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,920
an interview yesterday with Dan 
Duvall. 

1712
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:02,120
I think it's like the fifth time
he's been on. 

1713
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,240
And he was even mentioning and 
paralleling what you said. 

1714
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:09,960
And it's like we can take this 
perspective where we just say 

1715
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,920
the end is coming. 
Look at the beast system, look 

1716
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,840
at the enemy, look, look how 
deep and crazy this satanic 

1717
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,480
ritual abuse is. 
And they've infiltrated all the 

1718
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,960
three letter agencies RAW. 
So I'm going to go hide under a 

1719
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,880
rock now or get my peanuts and 
my shotgun shells and hide in 

1720
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:31,600
the closet of my house. 
Or you can literally understand,

1721
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,280
this is the perfect opportunity 
for the body of Christ to rise 

1722
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,240
and shine. 
Gross darkness will cover the 

1723
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:44,200
earth, but his glory will be 
seen risen upon you, it says in 

1724
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,880
Isaiah 60. 
And I think about this and it's 

1725
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,560
like no man's worthy. 
We're all saved by grace through

1726
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,800
faith in the one name that's 
above every name. 

1727
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:57,760
But there's the prophetic that 
that's like circumpunct him, 

1728
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,760
like it repeats itself through 
the ages. 

1729
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:04,000
And we see the spirit of Joshua 
and Caleb and David where in the

1730
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,720
midst of just being crushed and 
in the gutter, they're crying 

1731
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,200
out, saying, the Lord is my 
strong tower, right? 

1732
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:11,680
And I'm not going to relent. 
I'm not going to back off and it

1733
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:16,000
doesn't mean go start a militia 
and and especially not some 

1734
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,760
hippie sex cold or do not do any
of that stuff as Michael 

1735
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,160
disappears off the screen 
because I just gave him an open 

1736
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:23,800
rebuke. 
It's better than a head of love 

1737
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,880
Michael good timing. 
But you know when we start to 

1738
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,160
really understand the spirit 
that should be in the body of 

1739
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:32,520
Christ through what God has 
given us the the arsenal A5 fold

1740
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,760
ministry. 
We have mouthpieces, we have 

1741
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,360
willing hands, we have willing 
feet. 

1742
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,280
We have people that have. 
A hidden skill set that has been

1743
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,600
buried in the legalities, in the
religious spirit of the 

1744
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,960
corporate church in Western 
Christianity. 

1745
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,440
And we literally have, like 
Doctor Laura Sander says, a 

1746
01:40:49,440 --> 01:40:51,440
generation that's no longer 
enslaved. 

1747
01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:53,800
We we were hoodwinked. 
Cool. 

1748
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,640
I get it. 
I was hoodwinked. 

1749
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,800
Each one of us was hoodwinked. 
But that doesn't mean we need to

1750
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:04,280
remain in that place. 
So I've done this once before on

1751
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,640
the entire podcast over the last
six years, five years, whatever 

1752
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:12,640
it's been, but I feel led to 
read bodies to you guys. 

1753
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:15,360
The last time I did this, I got 
emails in from all around the 

1754
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,480
world. 
It's in my book that released 

1755
01:41:17,480 --> 01:41:21,840
early this year, but it really 
does touch on, I think, what 

1756
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,120
each one of us can relate to, 
which is we start out 

1757
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:28,480
individual, my aches, my pains, 
me, me, me, and it morphs over 

1758
01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:31,000
time through this, this small 
speak piece. 

1759
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,920
I'm going to read to you guys 
into being the body of Christ. 

1760
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:42,080
So it starts out like this. 
I'm a nobody living in a body. 

1761
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,040
I've seen somebody lose their 
body. 

1762
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:49,240
The trauma goes deep, I swear, 
and parts of my body don't work 

1763
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,800
like a normal body. 
Much of the time I'm in despair.

1764
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:58,080
I'm not normal to everybody. 
Some mock and they stare. 

1765
01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:02,440
Some have abused my body and I 
wonder, does anybody care? 

1766
01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:06,040
I've heard of the One who 
created my body in my mother's 

1767
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:10,080
womb, wonderfully and fearfully 
created, embodying His design 

1768
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:14,040
and truth. 
I ponder on this, fearful that I

1769
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:18,120
may never really know the 
length, the depth, the breadth 

1770
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,320
and the height. 
As my body shakes and trembles 

1771
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,320
during the darkest times of 
night, I wake and tell everybody

1772
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,320
about somebody who covers with 
his body. 

1773
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:31,440
His name is Christ, he says. 
He has a body of believers, a 

1774
01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:36,520
rare remnant, a body that cares.
I wonder how to help a body 

1775
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:41,560
that's fearful and so scared. 
He tells me be the body and 

1776
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,760
never compare. 
Each member makes my body and of

1777
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:48,120
this I deeply care. 
Continue to love my body, 

1778
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:49,880
becoming nobody for love is 
rare. 

1779
01:42:50,440 --> 01:42:54,200
It covers many sins. 
I see you son, and I care. 

1780
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,720
And if they come to kill your 
body being you represent my 

1781
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,160
body. 
Remember my body in despair, 

1782
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:04,040
broken and beaten, crucified. 
I gave my body for love. 

1783
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:06,120
It's all a part of the plan, my 
son. 

1784
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:10,560
Stay focused on what's above. 
I'll be with you and everybody 

1785
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,200
until the end of the age, I 
swear. 

1786
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:19,160
Waiting with a heavenly body and
nothing you know could compare. 

1787
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,800
Wow, that's incredible. 
Is that in your book? 

1788
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,480
Did I must? 
Did you write that? 

1789
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,960
Yeah, that's that's my book 
called the Words are salt. 

1790
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:36,120
It was his way was prophesied by
Doctor Laura Sanger in 2022. 

1791
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,600
I was I've been writing poetry 
for a long time. 

1792
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,160
It was just meant to be for my 
kids. 

1793
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:44,400
But this this prophetic thing 
developed a book called The 

1794
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,280
Words are Salt where God was 
waking me up to three in the 

1795
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:48,920
morning. 
I'm crying writing this stuff 

1796
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:54,760
down trying to understand why, 
but bodies was one that it went 

1797
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:58,040
out into the airwaves with with 
Carly tabs earlier on, like 

1798
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:02,800
maybe in the 80s and the 90s or 
one early one hundreds same time

1799
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:08,280
you were on Basma and that 
people purchased the book and 

1800
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,720
started using that to minister 
to women. 

1801
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:14,080
That poem specifically. 
I know that have been, you know,

1802
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:17,200
trafficked and just horrible 
things have happened to them. 

1803
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,680
And once I started to 
understand, man, it just makes 

1804
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,360
me like breakdown. 
I'm like this is but anyway to 

1805
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,000
answer it and sorry for babbling
on. 

1806
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:28,800
It's it's in the words our salt,
but I felt like it's Aaron. 

1807
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,080
There were so many people that 
were encouraged by you coming on

1808
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:34,800
the podcast and representing 
these stories from the 

1809
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,200
mountains, right? 
And then there was like this 

1810
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:39,360
like camaraderie that started to
grow in the region. 

1811
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:44,480
And I really felt like bodies is
is going to hit somebody there. 

1812
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,880
Like I'm expecting an e-mail, 
Aaron, you see, you help me with

1813
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:49,440
behind the scenes stuff on the 
podcast. 

1814
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,880
You see some of the emails, some
of the testimonies. 

1815
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,440
And I really do I felt led to 
read that at the end of this for

1816
01:44:55,440 --> 01:44:58,680
the, the person who listens all 
the way through, you know, the 

1817
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:02,320
every word that we all say and 
that they would just hear bodies

1818
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,200
and it would it would just 
comfort them in a whole new way.

1819
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,840
So I'm hoping. 
You know, if I may just because 

1820
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,360
I'll forget it if I don't do it.
the IT was so impactful hearing 

1821
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:17,200
you read that because it spoke 
to something that for me has 

1822
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:26,680
been one of the maybe most soul 
shifting ideas in my faith. 

1823
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:32,760
And that is the the body, the my
physical, literal body. 

1824
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,480
And this was interesting. 
This came up during a 

1825
01:45:37,480 --> 01:45:41,680
conversation I was having with 
somebody at Burning Man who is 

1826
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:45,880
very much into Gnosticism. 
And I love talking to people 

1827
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:50,000
like that because I love 
teaching them about Gnosticism, 

1828
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:55,880
things that they might not have 
known or misconceptions that 

1829
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,040
they might have about 
Christianity, misconceptions 

1830
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,920
they have about the Bible and 
God and things like that. 

1831
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:10,760
The idea that the the body, our 
physical body is less important 

1832
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:19,280
than our soul or disconnected in
a way that leads us to to 

1833
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:23,640
disregard at at at the very 
best. 

1834
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:26,840
Often times it's just to 
disregard the physical body. 

1835
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,640
The physical body is often we 
can take, and I'm not trying to 

1836
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:35,920
change anybody's theology here, 
but often we can try to take 

1837
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:41,000
comfort in the fact that our 
physical body is one way, but it

1838
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,120
doesn't really matter because 
I'm going to go to heaven. 

1839
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,760
My spirit will be there or 
something can happen to the 

1840
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:49,640
physical body and you can say, 
well, at least, you know, at 

1841
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:55,120
least my spirit is, is fine and 
I'll fly away and it'll be 

1842
01:46:55,120 --> 01:47:03,760
leftover after this body dies. 
But the the holiness of our 

1843
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:10,120
physical body is an incredibly 
important thing for us to 

1844
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:15,800
really, really rest into rest 
into that knowledge. 

1845
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:20,840
It was one of the primary 
Gnostic heresies. 

1846
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:23,800
And this is, you know, people 
get pretty got uncomfortable 

1847
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:26,000
with this because, you know, 
everybody likes to think their 

1848
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:27,960
theology is perfect. 
I'm not trying to change 

1849
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,160
anybody's and I'm not trying to.
I'm definitely not saying 

1850
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:34,880
anybody should change any of 
their dogma for my sake. 

1851
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,760
But one of the primary 
characteristics of the Gnostic 

1852
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:46,480
heresy was the separation of the
spirit and the body, that the 

1853
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,360
spirit is good and the body is 
bad. 

1854
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:53,760
Now of course there's passages 
in the Bible talking about 

1855
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:57,800
fleshliness, fleshly desires, 
the flesh and and things like 

1856
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:03,080
this. 
But the the inherent essence of 

1857
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:10,800
our physical body is not evil. 
And that was the Gnostic heresy 

1858
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:16,200
that all that is spirit is good 
and all that is fleshly or 

1859
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,120
fleshly is a hard word because 
it has different connotations. 

1860
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:25,600
All that is biological is bad. 
And when you really sit and 

1861
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:30,440
consider the fact that an entire
group of people who people still

1862
01:48:30,440 --> 01:48:35,560
to this day are fighting against
the Gnostic heresies sinking 

1863
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:40,320
into common Christianity, and 
this is maybe the number one 

1864
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,960
heresy that has some. 
And when I say heresy, I call it

1865
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,000
heresy because that's what the 
Catholic Church at the time 

1866
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:50,200
called it. 
This is it's categorical thing. 

1867
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:56,040
So keep that in mind. 
But the the very idea is you go 

1868
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,440
back to the Old Testament, you 
go back to the ancient 

1869
01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:04,400
Israelites, you go back to the 
the roots of what God has done 

1870
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:08,120
on this earth with his covenant 
with man and his history that 

1871
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:12,240
has played out in all of our 
bodies. 

1872
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:20,080
Our bodies are not a temple for 
the Holy Spirit because they are

1873
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:23,000
bad. 
Our bodies are a temple for the 

1874
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:28,560
Holy Spirit because they are 
good and because God made them 

1875
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:32,600
that way. 
And you don't. 

1876
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:39,480
You wouldn't build a temple for 
God in a in a in a building that

1877
01:49:39,480 --> 01:49:44,160
is made of rotting wood. 
Maybe if you needed a place to 

1878
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,640
camp, perhaps in an emergency 
zone or something, God will fill

1879
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:55,200
any vessel that you give it. 
But the the when we really 

1880
01:49:55,200 --> 01:50:00,400
change our hearts about the 
nature of our bodies and the 

1881
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:04,160
goodness of our bodies and the 
perfection that is the 

1882
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:09,760
biological machine that God 
created, invented with a breath 

1883
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:15,920
from his lungs, gave it to us as
a gift to be our primary 

1884
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:19,600
vehicle, our primary mode of 
operating. 

1885
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:24,440
And to go around thinking that 
our body is, is bad to think 

1886
01:50:24,440 --> 01:50:27,040
that it, it, it doesn't deserve 
the same attention that our 

1887
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:32,120
spirits deserve, you know, and 
there's a Joe Rogan way to think

1888
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:34,320
about it. 
Like, yeah, go, you know, take 

1889
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,960
your supplements and work out. 
And that's all very good. 

1890
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:41,000
And that is very important. 
And thank God, you know, my my 

1891
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,160
thoughts about my body changed 
in time for me to do something 

1892
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:50,680
about that, but to not just 
recognize that your body is 

1893
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:55,960
holy, but that my body is holy 
and that their body is holy. 

1894
01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:00,040
And the bodies that are in the 
tents down in South Carolina and

1895
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,960
the bodies that are being pulled
out of the crushed cars and the 

1896
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:09,880
bodies that are there waiting in
line to get some supplies out of

1897
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:13,200
the back of a truck that came 
from hundreds of miles away. 

1898
01:51:13,480 --> 01:51:17,680
It's the bodies of those people 
that we need to love 

1899
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:22,760
immediately. 
And when I think about that 

1900
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:26,920
church that is giving you 
trouble down there, it feels 

1901
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,400
like to me that is an 
organization that is not 

1902
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:35,840
recognizing and loving the 
holiness of the human bodies 

1903
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,520
around them. 
A church like that, they want to

1904
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,000
build a building to bring in 
more people because they want to

1905
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,880
save more souls. 
And there's nothing wrong with 

1906
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,960
that. 
But there comes a time in that 

1907
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:50,400
operation where you see building
a building to get more souls in 

1908
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:54,800
the door to sing to them and to 
preach to them and to hopefully 

1909
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:58,600
guide them into heaven, which is
a noble goal, but is no more 

1910
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:04,000
noble than loving the bodies 
that God created and have put in

1911
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:08,200
front of us and is the primary 
way that we can show love with 

1912
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:11,600
our hands and our feet. 
There's it is not an accident 

1913
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,840
that God operates in this world 
because people move their 

1914
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:20,160
bodies. 
And so when I hear that piece 

1915
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:28,120
that you read to me, Rod it, it 
communicated so many years, a 

1916
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:35,160
decade or more of me journeying 
through this idea that our 

1917
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:39,760
bodies are somehow less 
important than our minds, than 

1918
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:46,200
our spirits within our souls. 
I believe that once someone 

1919
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:50,320
individually, but also some 
people corporately, when we 

1920
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:55,800
really get serious about viewing
our bodies in the way that God 

1921
01:52:55,800 --> 01:53:02,960
views our bodies, that is when 
the real serious transformative 

1922
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:10,560
power of what Christ came in a 
body to do on this earth. 

1923
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:15,680
He did not come as a spirit. 
He is in a body. 

1924
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:19,680
And guess what folks, that body 
is just like yours. 

1925
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:24,640
It is almost identical in all 
the ways that matter. 

1926
01:53:25,480 --> 01:53:27,680
He may have been a little 
shorter than you. 

1927
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:32,600
He may have been a little taller
than you, but essentially your 

1928
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:38,000
body, if you believe that the 
body of Christ is important, he 

1929
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:41,440
had the same body as you and 
yours is important and it's the 

1930
01:53:41,440 --> 01:53:45,720
same body as your neighbor. 
And so let's let's once in a 

1931
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:49,160
while, again, I'm not even 
saying everybody change your 

1932
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:52,800
life because of this, although 
it did change mine once in a 

1933
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,840
while. 
When you're looking around here 

1934
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:59,240
and you're looking for ways, 
you're asking questions, you're 

1935
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:02,080
in a situation, you're praying 
to God to change your mind about

1936
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:03,840
something. 
You're praying to God to give 

1937
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:06,800
you direction and to give you 
his heart for something or 

1938
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,280
someone. 
Give him a chance to change your

1939
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,680
mind about the bodies around 
you. 

1940
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:14,720
And I think that. 
That. 

1941
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:20,200
I think that might be one of the
most important, one of the most 

1942
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:23,320
important things for the world 
right now. 

1943
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:27,320
Maybe not to be convinced of 
across the board, but like 

1944
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:33,000
bureaucracy, who cares more 
about process than than outcome.

1945
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,520
I rebuke that. 
I reject it. 

1946
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:40,920
And in this case, to our bodies,
outcome is more important than 

1947
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:47,240
process. 
That is, the essential sin is 

1948
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:49,480
not even the right word. 
It's the it's the essential 

1949
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:54,640
darkness that you see 
bureaucracy wield in this realm 

1950
01:54:54,640 --> 01:55:00,160
that we've been given. 
Is that to prioritize process 

1951
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:06,120
over objective or outcome? 
Is Luciferian? 

1952
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:10,960
It is Satanic, It is legalistic,
It is Pharisitical. 

1953
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:17,000
It is over and over again 
condemned by Scripture, by 

1954
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:22,480
Christ, by the Holy Spirit. 
And This is why it lifts our 

1955
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:29,040
spirits, it changes our mind. 
It it it it, it switches our our

1956
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:33,720
consciousness when someone hears
about taking their bodies to go 

1957
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:37,680
do the work of the Lord in a 
disaster area or something, 

1958
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:42,680
despite bureaucracy. 
Process be damned. 

1959
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:49,120
Outcome is what is is the is is 
primary. 

1960
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:52,520
I mean, outcome is what speaks 
to, I mean, talk about our 

1961
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:54,560
souls. 
It's the outcome that our souls 

1962
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:56,760
crave. 
And it's because our souls want 

1963
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,040
what's best for our bodies and 
other bodies. 

1964
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:02,560
So thank you for sharing that 
with us, Rod, because I would 

1965
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,480
love to get a copy of that book,
by the way. 

1966
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,960
I'm just going to read so it was
endorsed by Doctor Laura Sanger 

1967
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:13,040
and a very close friend and team
member, Carly Tebbs. 

1968
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:16,280
But Basil, what you were saying 
following up bodies, I'm just 

1969
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:18,360
going to read a portion of her 
endorsement here In the 

1970
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:21,000
beginning of the book. 
She says the first time I heard 

1971
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:24,520
Rod read bodies on season 4, 
episode one or two of the 

1972
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:28,640
Millennium Mustard C podcast, it
harken back to the beautiful and

1973
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:33,520
precarious tension between our 
bodies being both the temple of 

1974
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:38,560
the Holy Spirit and the most 
abused and regulated vessels of 

1975
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,560
our human experience. 
And I'll leave it up to you guys

1976
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,600
to go read the rest of that from
Carly. 

1977
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:48,440
But you know, this is a 
fellowship. 

1978
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:53,200
This is a signaling, right? 
We are literally using what God 

1979
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,840
has given us. 
We have tied the boots, we've 

1980
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,040
tied the shoelaces in many 
different ways. 

1981
01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:00,120
That's that's multi layered, 
obviously. 

1982
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:06,160
And here we are echoing out hope
causing more men out there to 

1983
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,800
get together and and if you can 
make the trip into the 

1984
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:12,560
mountains, pray about that. 
God, can I go in there? 

1985
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,560
What do I have to offer? 
Do I have a camper? 

1986
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:19,080
You know, I think a lot of goods
that are covered right now or, 

1987
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:22,400
or is what Aaron and Michael did
say earlier, you know, there's 

1988
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,640
basic like hygiene things that 
have been covered. 

1989
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,880
There's, there's a lot of 
equipment, but there's housing 

1990
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:31,240
problems there. 
I, I don't know, Billy Graham 

1991
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:33,720
Ministry shows up, right? 
Aaron was sending me pictures. 

1992
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:36,920
He's like, dude, Billy Graham's 
mission team just showed up. 

1993
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:39,280
He's telling them about the 
podcast we're broadcasting out 

1994
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,920
of there now. 
Billy Graham's checking out what

1995
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:45,520
we're doing here, right? 
And so is somebody listening who

1996
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:51,640
has land or resources, little 
houses, can you build little 

1997
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,280
houses? 
Can you facilitate needs to be 

1998
01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:55,960
met. 
I do believe that some of these 

1999
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:58,320
people are in a position where 
they might be willing to 

2000
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:02,160
temporarily relocate, hopefully 
not too far in order to get 

2001
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:06,160
through the winter. 
But I mean, I'm just, I'm just 

2002
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:09,680
sending this stuff out there 
hoping we get something back. 

2003
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,760
You know, just God, we're going 
to be bold. 

2004
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,640
We're going to be courageous. 
We're going to ask. 

2005
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:16,920
We're not going to not have it 
because we didn't ask. 

2006
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,200
We're going to not have it 
because somebody couldn't meet 

2007
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:20,760
the need. 
That's going to be the reason 

2008
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:22,040
we're going to ask. 
OK. 

2009
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:25,960
And here we are, teaming up, 
broadcasting hope, faith, using 

2010
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:30,280
our voices, taking a posture in 
the midst of the craziest times 

2011
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:32,120
ever. 
Like I listen to Canary Cry news

2012
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:33,520
talk. 
You know, the end of the world 

2013
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,840
is tomorrow. 
Come listen to Basil and guns as

2014
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:39,920
we write if the world's nuts. 
And there you go. 

2015
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:41,200
Aaron's already showing on the 
screen. 

2016
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:43,920
He's like, Yep, going to pick 
this up later after I get off 

2017
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,680
with Basil today. 
But here's the thing, you guys, 

2018
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:51,680
faith is not dead. 
What we are hoping for, what is 

2019
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:53,600
the substance of what we hope 
for? 

2020
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:55,400
What is the evidence of the 
unseen? 

2021
01:58:55,400 --> 01:59:01,080
And I think in some ways it is 
going to be a body in motion, 

2022
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:05,080
meeting each other's needs. 
So as we kind of wind down here,

2023
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:08,040
I mean anybody else, anything 
pressing on the hard? 

2024
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:10,320
Is there some stuff that we 
didn't cover that really needs 

2025
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:13,680
to be dealt with? 
You know, I'd love to just say 

2026
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,840
one last thing that came to my 
mind as as you were saying that 

2027
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:18,960
specifically calling out the 
men. 

2028
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:21,880
I mean, you talk about how 
fallen this world is. 

2029
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:26,280
You talk about how messed up the
very idea of of men and what men

2030
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:30,000
are supposed to be and what men 
inherently are and and what men 

2031
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:33,160
could be if only they took the 
right drugs or whatever. 

2032
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:40,000
You know, men have a very 
specific relationship with their

2033
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,200
bodies. 
Of course, women also, the 

2034
01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:45,120
conversation about women in 
their bodies is is an ongoing 

2035
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:47,920
and very important one. 
But one that I believe isn't 

2036
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,280
talked about enough is the 
relationship between men and 

2037
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:55,200
their bodies, because it is the 
the central failure of men who 

2038
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:58,640
lay on their deathbed. 
And you ask them what would they

2039
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:03,040
change? 
And they all say I thought that.

2040
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:06,240
I was my income. 
I thought that I was my 

2041
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:09,400
provision. 
I thought that I was, yeah, I 

2042
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:14,520
could Skype into baseball games.
I thought that so many other 

2043
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:16,520
things are what made me 
important as a man. 

2044
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:19,800
But for men, what's important is
your body. 

2045
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:23,520
If you're a, if you're a, if 
you're a father, the most 

2046
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:26,920
important thing you can do is 
have your body in the same room 

2047
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:30,760
as the rest of your family. 
Skyping in, sending an e-mail, 

2048
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,120
doing whatever it doesn't, 
doesn't do it. 

2049
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:36,760
Your body is what God created 
you for. 

2050
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:38,960
Our bodies are bigger, our 
bodies are stronger. 

2051
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:40,520
That's just inherently the 
truth. 

2052
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:43,360
It's a, it's, it's something we 
can't get away from. 

2053
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:54,040
And as men, you need to remember
that your body is a extremely 

2054
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:58,200
powerful tool for God. 
And it's not just about your 

2055
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:00,120
muscles, although go make them 
bigger. 

2056
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:07,080
It's not just about your height,
but short kings can do things 

2057
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,200
that tall guys can't. 
Whatever it is, it doesn't 

2058
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:12,640
matter. 
Your body is the tool through 

2059
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:19,520
which you act out the masculine 
calling that the Lord has placed

2060
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:25,880
upon your life. 
Your body can be dangerous, and 

2061
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:28,960
people do consider men's bodies 
dangerous a lot of the time. 

2062
02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:31,720
But your bodies are also 
protectors. 

2063
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:34,880
They're providers. 
They're the things moving the 

2064
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,640
revel rubble. 
Your bodies are present when 

2065
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:42,160
nobody else is present. 
Your body is what's there. 

2066
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:49,160
It's, it's what you know, it's, 
it's, it's a large portion of 

2067
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:54,240
what is important to your spouse
or your loved one. 

2068
02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:58,200
It is, but it is so much more 
than just that because your body

2069
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:05,200
is what God used to separate you
from the others. 

2070
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:10,240
Yes, of course, the the women 
being a part of it, but also 

2071
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:12,680
other men. 
You're you don't share a body 

2072
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:17,560
with another man. 
You moving your body is the 

2073
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:21,720
prophetic act that we've been 
talking about through this whole

2074
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:25,480
thing. 
You don't you don't accomplish 

2075
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:28,400
God's will on earth without 
moving your body. 

2076
02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:32,440
And so I just want to 
specifically for all the dudes 

2077
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:39,800
out there, I want to empower 
your mind to feel your body. 

2078
02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:42,560
Might sound silly, but a lot of 
guys are out there. 

2079
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:44,760
They're just not. 
They don't feel like they're in 

2080
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:47,680
a body, they're in their head. 
It's a battle that I battle all 

2081
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:52,520
the time, feeling like I'm a 
brain in a jar or I am a spirit 

2082
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:56,120
here to think about God all the 
time. 

2083
02:02:56,120 --> 02:03:03,360
But without our bodies, there's 
not much more that God separated

2084
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:08,040
men and women for then 
specifically our body. 

2085
02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:11,120
So put it to work. 
Put it to work and I guarantee 

2086
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:14,680
you, you will feel better. 
You will think better, you will 

2087
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:18,600
sleep better, you will have 
better relationships. 

2088
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:23,160
Use your body for what God wants
you to use it in your life. 

2089
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:28,080
So I'm sorry, my computer 
totally crashed and I missed a 

2090
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,040
little bit of that. 
I don't know if you guys see me 

2091
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:32,040
disappear. 
You were back fast. 

2092
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:34,240
That was pretty good. 
Well, praise God, shout out to 

2093
02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:37,160
Brett and Danika because they 
actually supplied this new 

2094
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:41,480
computer which can handle like a
really quick enter in, enter out

2095
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:44,000
upload stuff. 
So I've been been able to cruise

2096
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:46,880
through it, but this is a fresh 
setup and it was the weirdest 

2097
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:49,240
thing. 
It literally froze my screen and

2098
02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:53,480
it said we we're having an error
transmuting whatever information

2099
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:56,040
and just shut me down and then 
reopened up. 

2100
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:58,600
So the old computer, I never 
would have been back. 

2101
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:02,120
So praise God. 
Praise God. 

2102
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:06,560
For that, well, you'll get to 
hear it the second time around 

2103
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:10,480
when you start editing Basil is.
Appointed Basil, you have a 

2104
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:14,240
unique and wonderful calling 
and. 

2105
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:17,480
A. 
Way to just speak to men. 

2106
02:04:18,680 --> 02:04:20,760
I'm feeling it and my bones, 
brother. 

2107
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:24,240
I'm going to start loving and 
affirming my body. 

2108
02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:25,960
You are a man. 
Your body is. 

2109
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:28,960
Powerful. 
Your body was made by God to do 

2110
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:31,960
very specific things. 
You might as well do it if 

2111
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:33,480
you're not doing them. 
What are we doing? 

2112
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:35,360
Yeah, you know this is true, 
Yes. 

2113
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:39,040
And Basil makes me think like 
even once 1/4 what are we 

2114
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:42,240
talking? 
Maybe even that's that might be 

2115
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:45,240
a little hard, but at minimum 
once or twice a year, I want to 

2116
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:48,360
get you back into these spaces 
where like literally it's a 

2117
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:51,440
round table. 
We get just different people. 

2118
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:54,680
If they can be boots on the 
ground or just people on another

2119
02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:55,960
show. 
It doesn't even matter. 

2120
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:59,240
But I've seen you open up 
because I listen to you, right? 

2121
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:02,480
So I've seen you opened up in 
this space, which takes me back 

2122
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:05,920
to the Canary Cry radio days 
almost where it's like, you 

2123
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:08,160
know, there's certain things 
that have activated you and I'm 

2124
02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:12,000
seeing the side of you that I 
originally like was in my my 

2125
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:13,840
ears. 
I even see Aaron's head nodding.

2126
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:17,080
So it's kind of cool to see that
we're covering these chasms and 

2127
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,000
don't stop what you're doing. 
I'm not insinuating that. 

2128
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:23,640
I'm just saying like I love 
seeing you in this organic space

2129
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:26,480
where if I get moved by the 
spirit, I can say something 

2130
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:30,040
super provocative and it like 
you just unpack it and take us 

2131
02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:31,720
there and make it even more 
beautiful. 

2132
02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:34,960
It's like from faith in the 
faith and the glory and the 

2133
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,440
glory, it's like we're going 
higher and higher, just ripping 

2134
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:40,720
on each other with the 
complexities and the beauties 

2135
02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:43,640
and of all of this man. 
But as as we wind down and come 

2136
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:46,880
to a close, you know, I kind of 
would just go across, you know, 

2137
02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:50,400
Michael Basham, just close this 
out real quick, Aaron and then 

2138
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:52,960
Basil take the final and end 
word. 

2139
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:55,800
It can be encouragement, 
whatever you feel LED. 

2140
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:59,840
But before I hand it over, thank
you guys. 

2141
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:02,040
I just want to honor and thank 
each one of you. 

2142
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:06,880
Thank you, Lord. 
Well, I'm Michael Basham Fringe 

2143
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:10,200
radionetwork.com. 
Get the app, sign up for the 

2144
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:13,720
phone alerts and don't forget to
do the same with Canary cry and 

2145
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:16,360
Rod. 
You got to got to get with us 

2146
02:06:16,360 --> 02:06:18,800
and take take advantage of our 
systems. 

2147
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:23,480
So what Lord's put in put into 
my lap recently is just the word

2148
02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:26,120
of God in our mouths all the 
time, all day. 

2149
02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:31,120
However you do it, get it in 
there and you have a choice to 

2150
02:06:31,120 --> 02:06:33,520
either have faith or fear and 
it's a force. 

2151
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:36,760
And if you've got the word of 
God coming out of your mouth and

2152
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:40,320
you can declare as Basil was 
eloquently talking about your 

2153
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:43,960
body, you speak to your body 
like I met Aaron and I just 

2154
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:46,760
spoke to his body. 
You're not going to be you're 

2155
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:49,880
not getting radiation poisoning 
bro, you're you're healed. 

2156
02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:54,320
Jesus name speak to that thing 
and it's not how it looks on the

2157
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:57,080
outside it. 
It could be nuclear war, 

2158
02:06:57,080 --> 02:07:00,000
whatever, blah, blah, blah. 
But are you going? 

2159
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:01,600
Are you tuning to the fear or 
the faith? 

2160
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:04,320
And the way you build up your 
faith is through this word of 

2161
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:07,440
God. 
So I'm pledging to take this 

2162
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:10,560
microphone and I'm going into 
the word. 

2163
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:15,040
I'm blocking out everything else
and I love everybody. 

2164
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:17,880
It's just this is, this is what 
we're what we're about. 

2165
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:22,080
And you know, you can join Eagle
Mountain Church and become an E 

2166
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:24,040
member and get that blessing 
there. 

2167
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:27,400
I think this Internet cowboy 
thing has been fun. 

2168
02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:30,360
Enjoyed it. 
Got a lot of wounds from that. 

2169
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:34,280
But you need a pastor. 
Like even if he's in Houston, TX

2170
02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:37,720
or get a pastor. 
Tithing is awesome. 

2171
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:41,600
Regular fasting. 
I mean men, we need to lay aside

2172
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:44,600
the sins, the secret sins, the 
unconfessed stuff. 

2173
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:48,600
Get with men and work hard and 
pray and get an intercession 

2174
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:53,200
team and and podcast. 
And if you don't podcast, 

2175
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:56,440
support a podcast. 
Get get into the chat and 

2176
02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:00,080
because otherwise we're so 
lonely and we don't know if what

2177
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:04,480
we're doing is the just kidding,
I'm wearing these sunglasses to 

2178
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:06,360
hide my tears. 
It's a daily strike, but it. 

2179
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:07,760
Is time. 
This is it. 

2180
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:12,080
This is Jesus is Coming. 
As my uncle Dick said, who runs 

2181
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:14,520
Derek Prince Ministries. 
Jesus is coming. 

2182
02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:19,280
Wait, everybody look busy and of
course that's a joke, but it's 

2183
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:21,480
true. 
We need to be busy for the Lord 

2184
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:26,160
and and and full of his word and
his love and I thank you again 

2185
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:31,680
and if I can be of service to 
any of you guys anytime that I 

2186
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:33,880
would love to collaborate very 
soon. 

2187
02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:36,960
So my personal website 
isfaithbooks.com wrote it 

2188
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:39,520
myself. 
Doesn't look like much but hack 

2189
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:41,240
it. 
Try and hack me now. 

2190
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:45,880
You can't hack me now with HTML.
Doesn't look like I lost all my 

2191
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:48,720
websites and I can see basil. 
You guys use WordPress? 

2192
02:08:49,120 --> 02:08:51,720
How do you still have that? 
I know, cool. 

2193
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:53,400
It's a whole. 
Thing Anyway that's enough for 

2194
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:54,480
me. 
Love you guys. 

2195
02:08:56,880 --> 02:09:00,680
Very, very happy to be here. 
Just Rod, you reading everything

2196
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:06,960
as far as the bodies go and then
Basil you elaborating even more 

2197
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:09,240
so on that. 
I I have to say this, when you 

2198
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:12,360
do your little basil rants and 
stuff, I think that they're 

2199
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:13,960
great. 
This anointing really just kind 

2200
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:17,360
of shines out of you for sure. 
So I definitely would encourage 

2201
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:20,320
a lot more of that. 
You guys are absolutely 

2202
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:22,360
incredible. 
Rod Michael. 

2203
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:25,720
I mean, you guys know how I feel
about all you just keep it up, 

2204
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,560
man. 
The body of Christ rising, 

2205
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:30,600
right? 
You know, I'm yes, Basil was 

2206
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:33,160
sitting there talking and it's 
just like, you know, you said it

2207
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:34,960
perfectly too. 
Then I was just kind of writing 

2208
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:38,280
some stuff down. 
God gifted our bodies. 

2209
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:46,360
Our bodies are a present. 
So be present to be a present. 

2210
02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:50,520
Be present, you know, So when 
God leaves you somewhere, show 

2211
02:09:50,520 --> 02:09:55,600
up, take that leap of faith, you
know, not faith in yourself, but

2212
02:09:55,880 --> 02:10:00,160
faith in the King. 
You know, sitting there, we do 

2213
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:02,600
all these little references like
fellowship of the ring, right? 

2214
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:05,320
Fellowship of the King. 
Yeah. 

2215
02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:06,400
Hallelujah. 
Love it. 

2216
02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:06,680
Yeah. 
Amen. 

2217
02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:08,720
Yeah. 
Let's go. 

2218
02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:10,240
I'm just, I'm thankful for you 
guys. 

2219
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:12,880
Let's go, let's go. 
Love you guys. 

2220
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:14,560
Yeah. 
See you soon, Aaron. 

2221
02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:17,480
Absolutely Friday. 
I'll be there Friday. 

2222
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:20,960
Dude going back outgoing for a 
second deployment. 

2223
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:24,680
That's very impressive. 
I'm very impressed with all you 

2224
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:27,800
fellas here. 
But dude, Aaron in the same way 

2225
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:30,960
I mean, I wasn't joking it. 
It's in the same way that it 

2226
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:35,120
occurred to so many other men, 
specifically in this country, 

2227
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:37,680
feeling the calling, wondering 
if that's what they're supposed 

2228
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:42,600
to do, to go out and be there, 
be the hands and feet and be 

2229
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:47,520
objective outcome oriented to 
fight against the satanic 

2230
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:52,400
process oriented sort of 
bureaucratic tyranny that lets 

2231
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:56,120
people disappear. 
It lets people fade away. 

2232
02:10:56,120 --> 02:11:00,880
It lets people, it lets them 
die. 

2233
02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:05,200
As someone who felt that just 
like so many other million, 

2234
02:11:05,320 --> 02:11:07,760
millions of fellas, it's very 
inspirational. 

2235
02:11:08,200 --> 02:11:11,520
I'm very proud of you. 
I'm proud to be on this call 

2236
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:15,400
with you. 
I can't wait to hear what the 

2237
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:18,640
Lord does as you go back and 
continue to do that. 

2238
02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:23,080
So stay in touch. 
And of course, I know you guys 

2239
02:11:23,080 --> 02:11:25,160
will keep me posted on 
everything, but I just want you 

2240
02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:27,440
to be empowered. 
I want you to feel empowered. 

2241
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:32,840
I want you to feel your body was
attacked by the adversary. 

2242
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:40,040
It was your body that was the 
vector that that the adversary 

2243
02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:42,480
used to take you out. 
And it's because your body was 

2244
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:45,680
making such a difference. 
Your body was doing what the 

2245
02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:49,840
Lord needed done in that area. 
So in the same way, like Michael

2246
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:53,600
was saying, I'll be praying over
your body, of course, your mind 

2247
02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:56,360
and your spirit, but your body, 
so that you're able to continue 

2248
02:11:56,360 --> 02:12:00,200
accomplishing that mission. 
And I can't wait to hear more. 

2249
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:05,600
And yeah, Rod, Michael, thank 
you guys so much for giving me 

2250
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:10,120
the opportunity to come on here 
and and pop off a little bit. 

2251
02:12:10,440 --> 02:12:15,760
You know, there's a reason why 
CCNT is so regimented is because

2252
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:22,400
if we did not have if we did not
have a structure, we would just 

2253
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:25,280
be in big trouble. 
So it's a cherish the 

2254
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:30,000
opportunity to step outside of 
that structure and to just. 

2255
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:34,080
Cage. 
Thank you for letting me think 

2256
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:36,400
outside the cage, guys. 
I really appreciate that. 

2257
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:41,400
I will definitely take you up on
any offer to do that in the 

2258
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:47,440
future because of course, I 
appreciate the compliments and 

2259
02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,520
the praise and the recognition 
from you guys. 

2260
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:54,880
That means a lot. 
But it also feels good to be 

2261
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,920
given the opportunity to let the
Lord do something new. 

2262
02:12:58,040 --> 02:13:00,640
Let let God do whatever he's 
going to do with me. 

2263
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:05,880
And like, like everything else 
we've been talking about in this

2264
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:11,480
podcast, if you're not putting 
yourselves, if you're not moving

2265
02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:15,680
your bodies into a position of 
opportunity, then you're missing

2266
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:17,920
out on a lot of what God has for
you. 

2267
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:22,480
So I consider this a victory for
all of us. 

2268
02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:26,400
I consider it a victory for me. 
And I would love to come back 

2269
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:28,680
and, and do it as often as 
possible. 

2270
02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:32,360
Yeah. 
And to everybody out there, I 

2271
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:35,640
only say all of that. 
I often get criticism about how 

2272
02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:38,200
I love talking about myself so 
much. 

2273
02:13:38,200 --> 02:13:41,440
But in my head, when I talk 
about myself, it's because I 

2274
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:49,000
want others to identify with me.
It's my, it's my desire to, to 

2275
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:51,960
connect. 
It's my desire to maybe have 

2276
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:55,720
someone out there be like, oh, 
he feels like I feel or wow, 

2277
02:13:55,720 --> 02:13:58,080
that's something that you know, 
that's, that's, that's me 

2278
02:13:58,080 --> 02:14:01,240
reaching out to everybody out 
there in podcast land. 

2279
02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:08,200
And I know because I have faith 
that somebody out there feels 

2280
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:10,640
the way I do about certain 
things. 

2281
02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:14,160
And to the rest of you who are 
busy at crafting those tweets 

2282
02:14:14,160 --> 02:14:18,680
about how I talk too much, you 
can send those to at face like 

2283
02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:22,600
the Sun on Twitter. 
Send those straight over there. 

2284
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:26,720
That'll be great. 
But yeah, I guess, I guess the 

2285
02:14:26,720 --> 02:14:29,560
just the do the normal plugs 
here at the end. 

2286
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:33,440
Of course, my main show is with 
guns Canary Cry News Talk. 

2287
02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:38,680
It is a different but similar 
show called Canary Cry Radio. 

2288
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,120
I know it's confusing. 
They're two different shows, but

2289
02:14:41,120 --> 02:14:43,760
check them out. 
And then of course, there's a 

2290
02:14:43,760 --> 02:14:48,040
lot of Basil deep cuts when it 
comes to side projects that I've

2291
02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:50,600
done over the years. 
The Joyce Piercy theory. 

2292
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:53,680
You can go here, Michael, on the
Joyce Piercy theory. 

2293
02:14:54,160 --> 02:14:58,640
I've got a show called Ravel, 
which is definitely some. 

2294
02:14:58,640 --> 02:15:02,560
I don't know if anybody wants 
more of me ranting like this, 

2295
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:06,120
you can go listen to Ravel. 
There's two Ravels. 

2296
02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:09,080
The other one stole our name. 
We have the evidence, but just 

2297
02:15:09,080 --> 02:15:13,320
search Ravel, Basil Rosewater. 
It's the whole thing. 

2298
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:19,320
But yeah, I I'm humbled and 
appreciative of you, all three 

2299
02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:21,760
of you, but also to the listener
and the viewer. 

2300
02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:26,480
Because without them, those 
moments when I feel like, why am

2301
02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:28,880
I doing anything? 
Is anybody listening? 

2302
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:31,840
Does anybody care? 
Am I doing what God wants me to 

2303
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:34,520
do? 
Is God working or doing anything

2304
02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:36,400
through me? 
If it weren't for the listener 

2305
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:39,320
and the viewer, the answer to 
all that would be no. 

2306
02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:44,320
So I really am so grateful to 
every single individual out 

2307
02:15:44,320 --> 02:15:47,200
there. 
And yeah, I think that's enough 

2308
02:15:47,280 --> 02:15:48,920
ranting from me, so thank you 
very much. 

2309
02:15:50,200 --> 02:15:52,640
What then shall we say to these 
things? 

2310
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:56,120
If God is for us, who can be 
against us? 

2311
02:15:56,840 --> 02:16:00,680
He who did not spare his own 
Son, but delivered him up for us

2312
02:16:00,680 --> 02:16:06,080
all, Shall He not also freely 
give us all things? 

2313
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:09,760
Who shall bring a charge against
God's elect? 

2314
02:16:10,440 --> 02:16:14,800
It is God who justifies. 
Who is he who condemns? 

2315
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:20,400
It is Christ who died, and 
furthermore is also risen. 

2316
02:16:21,880 --> 02:16:26,160
Who even at the right hand of 
God, who makes intercession for 

2317
02:16:26,160 --> 02:16:30,160
us, who shall separate us from 
the love of Christ, shall 

2318
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:36,120
tribulation or distress or 
persecution or famine or 

2319
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:41,639
nakedness or peril or sword? 
That's it. 

2320
02:16:41,639 --> 02:16:45,040
That is the show, you guys. 
I'm asking you to share this one

2321
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:48,240
far and wide. 
This is how you participate and 

2322
02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:51,440
help you share these shows 
because that's just the right 

2323
02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:53,920
thing to do. 
Coming to you from Southeastern 

2324
02:16:53,920 --> 02:16:57,040
Pennsylvania. 
God bless and goodbye. 

2325
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:28,080
Holding on to hope when the 
waters get away. 

2326
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:56,120
Happily, Sir, you are hell in 
the arts are the same the wood 

2327
02:17:56,320 --> 02:18:08,000
all your teeth high like a river
to his heart, 'cause I. 

2328
02:18:15,240 --> 02:18:36,559
You are light blesses the wind 
and the old fitting child. 

2329
02:18:41,840 --> 02:18:49,920
Holding on to all them they ever
know. 

2330
02:18:56,950 --> 02:19:11,190
Happily say you are hell in the 
arms, that savior of the world. 

2331
02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:37,000
All your tears are like a river 
to his high is how the laser you

2332
02:19:37,320 --> 02:19:55,600
are. 
Blessed is the one who hears in 

2333
02:19:55,720 --> 02:20:14,930
this sense, holding on to Jesus 
when nothing makes sense. 

2334
02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:36,600
You are hell in the eyes. 
How the Savior, the world, all 

2335
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:45,720
your tears are like a river to 
his heart. 

2336
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:56,600
You are.