1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,080 That's tough. We're in a very tough spot. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,000 I think that what we're doing right now is a great benefit and 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,520 virtue because it's an end around between this whole 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,680 corrupt informational system, media system. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,200 We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,440 existence and literally raised himself from the dead, and yet 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,520 we are not going to believe that anything else exists in the 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,360 spirit realm, even though His word tells us that they do. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,800 Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do, 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,920 and they weren't permitted to go to heaven, so they wander the 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,360 earth. You know, I've seen the. 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Eyes turn black to unknown tongues being spoken. 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,360 These giants would live way up in the highland. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,360 The young Braves, the young men would hide up in the trees and 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,960 wait for one of these 12 footers to come walking down the bath 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,760 and they would jump on them and kill them, drag them back to the 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,880 village, and the village would feast on the body Marina. 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,600 Then people start to get weapons, they start to get 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,680 armor, they start to build cities, they start to fortify 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,520 their cities. Now God looks down and there's 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,440 violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,440 at, is not against each other, it's against these 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,960 principalities and these rulers and these archons in the high 24 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:23,480 places. It's really worthwhile to read 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,280 the Bible. Yourself. 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,320 Fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control because 27 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:33,160 we have to take every thought captive and resist fear. 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,040 You're going to have a testimony that is a justice case against 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:02:06,000 the Kingdom of darkness. Anybody in the church that 30 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,520 doesn't take a position on Genesis 6, they're missing. 31 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,600 That's, I mean, we, that's why we do this podcast, right? 32 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,960 You know, it's, it's a foundational thing that opens 33 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,920 your eyes to the Bible. The reality of what took place 34 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,720 in Noah's time and what's taking place now, It has been hidden to 35 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,400 a lot of people, many generations and even even 36 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,240 present day. Satanic information technology. 37 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,960 So that's the software for the the nano stuff, right. 38 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,880 So when people are having these issues, when we look at patents 39 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,760 right now, Yep, we can read patents right now and that 40 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,520 material that they put in people, the software program can 41 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,960 be targeted completely different for me or you than 100 other 42 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,400 people in the room that aren't a threat. 43 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:58,000 So like the world's not up to par with looking at things that 44 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,920 multi layered and that much of an attack against the flock, 45 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:04,760 especially those people who are Ephesian style exposing the 46 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,880 enemy. So people think you're crazy 47 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,480 sometimes and it's singled out. But my thing is, if you're 48 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,680 leaving out other believers, like if, if we don't have a wide 49 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,520 enough scope that it fits in everybody, like LA says, if one 50 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,920 person's right, it busts the paradigm. 51 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,000 So we have to actually have a Berean mentality to study in the 52 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Word of God with a readiness of mind that if we can find in the 53 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,240 Word, not just answers in Genesis, but anywhere in the 54 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Word, that would compartmentalize and justify in 55 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,880 the truth to an experience or something that's happening. 56 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Modern daytime Bereans would accept it with a readiness of 57 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,800 mind because it could be found in the Word. 58 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,560 So that's just a Berean that has no religious affiliation. 59 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,280 No, it's just this is the Word of God. 60 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,120 I can find it. I can see it here. 61 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,560 I trust the Word of God now. We agree with these quotes, 62 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,280 therefore we need to understand Genesis 6 one through 4. 63 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,960 For example, he says we can't give up on the foundation of the 64 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,000 Bible as truth when we try to argue apologetics. 65 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,520 People don't understand these topics because pastors are not 66 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,480 teaching it. The attack is on the Word of God 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,079 right from the serpent in the garden. 68 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,399 Did God really say He says there's no neutral position. 69 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,640 If you're not gathering, you're scattering. 70 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,240 Churches are teaching all kinds of you on Genesis One through 71 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,040 11, and that's not good. I'm agreeing and saying take it. 72 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,160 Take what you were saying and apply it to Genesis 6 to 73 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,480 understand how important it is to fight for every word of God. 74 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Every single jot and title that is recorded is important. 75 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,800 It's there for a purpose and it has meaning. 76 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:54,880 And we don't get to be neutral that we have to take a position 77 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,120 on it because anything that we're neutral on or anything 78 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,120 that is an error, the enemy can exploit down the road. 79 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,560 Hey, Rod, what's up, man? What's going on, Pete, Luke. 80 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Luke can see you guys. Hey, guys. 81 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:22,600 I gathered you all here today. So listen, I brought a rod in 82 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:27,160 with Luke and I today because we had a fantastic interview with 83 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:31,800 Brian Osborne from Answers and Genesis, and it was a lot of 84 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,800 fun. It we talked about some really 85 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,160 important topics and Brian's a great guy. 86 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,520 And we we talked about the importance of the Bible of 87 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,720 Genesis, of apologetics, about understanding that there are 88 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,600 reasons for our faith that it's not just a blind faith, but we 89 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,440 have good answers for things that the world has questions 90 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,200 about. And one of the things I'll 91 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,480 mention this to one of the things that while the main thing 92 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,520 really that compelled me to reach out to them and try to get 93 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Ken Ham the the the president or CEO, if you will, of answers in 94 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,560 Genesis on our show. And we ended up getting Brian 95 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,840 was a talk that Ken did that I saw I thought was so important. 96 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,360 And it was talking about how our young people are leaving the 97 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,840 church in droves. And it has a lot to do with us 98 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:29,480 being kind of in a post Christian, post biblical culture 99 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:37,280 where it's almost like Acts 2 versus Acts 17 and Acts 2, it 100 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:41,280 was Peter speaking to the Jewish people and they really just 101 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:43,960 needed to accept the Messiah. But they basically had an 102 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,360 understanding of, of God and their history, right? 103 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Their Old Testament history. And so it wasn't a big jump to 104 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,040 get them to the Messiah. So they already had that, that 105 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,880 culture of understanding. And in Acts 17, it was more the 106 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:07,200 Greek culture of God, which God, you know, or like Pilate said, 107 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,920 right, truth, What is truth? And so we've said this, Luke and 108 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,560 I on our show often that we need to have better answers for these 109 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,680 things in the Bible that people love to throw at us and say, 110 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,160 what an awful God to send the flood to command the killing of 111 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,280 all these people in the Old Testament. 112 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:35,280 And they see the Old Testament God as a very different God than 113 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,120 the God of the New Testament. And I submit we are not 114 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:45,200 understanding the depth of the perversion and corruptness and 115 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,000 violence of the Old Testament, why these drastic measures were 116 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,080 necessary. So that's kind of a long winded 117 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,920 intro to say understanding the Bible properly is important. 118 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,480 And a lot of the notes that I'm going to go off of today with 119 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Rod and Luke came from preparing to talk to Brian, Brian Osborne 120 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,960 from Answers in Genesis. So this is not a beat up on, on 121 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:17,480 Brian or Ken or any of that, but it kind of spurred something in 122 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,800 us as Luke and I kind of set out to do this podcast journey with 123 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,080 a, I'll call it a Genesis 6 worldview. 124 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,400 To borrow Mike Kyser's The Deuteronomy 32 worldview phrase 125 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,640 that if we understand who the sons of God are in Genesis 6, as 126 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,640 Steve Quayle has said, it is a Rosetta Stone for understanding 127 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,800 the biblical narrative as a whole. 128 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,000 Well, just a comment. I mean, you know, honor and love 129 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,240 is obviously the goal with the body and these pockets that need 130 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,400 that that have a need to be met, right? 131 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,720 Where we have Berean mentalities, we're finding stuff 132 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,600 in the word and and as time goes on, you know, studying the Bible 133 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,560 in its ancient cultural context is actually so important that it 134 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:14,440 lines these things up and makes it undisputable, right? 135 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,400 So there's like the the Greek mind mindset, right? 136 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,120 And then there's this ancient mindset. 137 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,080 So I think just as a believer, somebody who doesn't like 138 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,720 beating up on bad opinions, let's say a Sethite view, I 139 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,680 still work with people who have a Sethite view because my main 140 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:35,280 goal is salvation and having better answers and serving the 141 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,720 King of Kings, right? Like literally taking a position 142 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,920 where it's like, if it's non salvational, it's still 143 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,880 important because the ripple effect has been demonstrated 144 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,080 from people all around the world on this little mustard seed show 145 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,880 over here, right? We got people that are coming 146 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,560 out and saying this was helpful. Why have I been alone on this 147 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:54,960 information? So we know God is working in a 148 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,200 mysterious way where he's bringing stuff together. 149 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,920 And just a comment real quick on the fact that we have a whole 150 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,320 can of worms in the reality check and humility of God saying 151 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,960 things like seal up these words to Daniel, you know, and then 152 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,000 all of these things happening at the end of the age. 153 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,200 So it would be really, in my opinion, disingenuous for me not 154 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,760 to have an open mind and to listen to anecdotal evidence and 155 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,040 also be honest with my own experience that I believe 156 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,000 there's so much more going on in the word of God than what the 157 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,560 church that that I had visited recently would like, like to 158 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:34,760 believe. And I think we're really 159 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,560 forefront runners in that way. And it's not easy being a 160 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:41,200 pioneer. So balancing it with like the 161 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,240 Berean mentality, personal experience, respecting and 162 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,160 honoring the Word of God, and then realizing you're pioneering 163 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,760 somewhere where many people are not ready to go. 164 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,240 And we mix all that together. And here we are with smiles and 165 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:03,000 with prayer and with the right posturing heart, in my opinion. 166 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,920 So thank you for inviting me, Pete, and it's always good to be 167 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,400 with you and your brother Luke. Yeah, good to have you. 168 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,880 Yeah. So you know, any of our 169 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,160 listeners who have been with us from the beginning or have gone 170 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,360 back to the old episodes, you know, this is where we we 171 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,040 started who are the sons of God in in Genesis chapter 6. 172 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,520 And it's very hotly debated the the commonly held view and the 173 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:34,840 most taught view in seminaries and then by extension most 174 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:40,000 churches is, as Rods mentioned, the Sethite view that these sons 175 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,320 of God were not angelic, heavenly divine beings, but just 176 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,200 humans. Now, we're not going to spend 177 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,000 this episode talking about all the reasons why we think that's 178 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,120 incorrect, although we'll mention a few. 179 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,240 But go back and listen to our first two episodes and also 180 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:08,640 episode 35 with Doug Van Dorn, where Doug lays out how the Jews 181 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,040 had an understanding of these two powers in heaven. 182 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,120 And the late Michael Heizer would often talk about this, 183 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,840 that they looked at the verses in the Old Testament and they 184 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,440 saw these two Co equal divine figures. 185 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,400 And they're like, huh, OK, well, they seem to be on equal 186 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,080 footing. All right, I can accept that. 187 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,800 That's what the word of God says. 188 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:36,320 And yet when the Messiah came and they rejected the Messiah 189 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,040 because they were looking for the conquering king, and instead 190 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,880 they got the suffering servant and they missed him. 191 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,840 Well, they couldn't have a divine figure taking human flesh 192 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,120 because that that would give credence to the Messiah that 193 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,440 that's how he came. And so they looked back at 194 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Genesis 6 and they're like, Oh no, we can't have angels taking 195 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,520 human form and having relations with human women. 196 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,720 So it became punishable by excommunication. 197 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:16,120 It was heresy, even unto death in some cases, for people to 198 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,280 hold the angelic, supernatural view of Genesis 6. 199 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,440 So let's go ahead and read that just to bring some of our 200 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,680 listeners up to speed. We've referenced it a lot so, 201 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:28,000 but I don't want to skip over it. 202 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,640 So Genesis 6 And it came to pass, when men began to be 203 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,160 numerous upon the earth, and daughters were born to them, 204 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,440 that the sons of God, having seen the daughters of men were 205 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,040 beautiful, took to themselves wives of all whom they chose. 206 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,120 And the Lord God said, My Spirit shall certainly not remain among 207 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,480 these men forever, because they are flesh, but their days shall 208 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,600 be 120 years. Now the giants were upon the 209 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,400 earth in those days and after that when the sons of God were 210 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,360 want to go into the daughters of men, and they bore children to 211 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,600 them, those were the giants of old, the men of renown. 212 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,400 Now a lot of your Bible versions will not say giants, they'll say 213 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,680 Nephilim. That's actually taken from the 214 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:17,280 Masoretic text. The Masoretic is the Hebrew Old 215 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Testament, which actually was not compiled until at the end of 216 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,320 the 1st century and not completed until about the 9th or 217 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,840 10th century. All of the references of the Old 218 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,520 Testament that we have in the New Testament, in the Gospel and 219 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:40,160 other places, from Paul, from Jesus, they were quoting from 220 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,480 the Septuagint, the Greek translation. 221 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,280 And it's my opinion that there is a Masoretic text compromise 222 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,120 in light again of rejecting the Messiah. 223 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,680 So we have literally the word giants. 224 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,480 So there isn't any confusion over who the Nephilim are. 225 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,400 And let's be clear, you can't get giants from 2 humans. 226 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,440 We're not talking about someone with giantism who dies at 30 227 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,360 years old, right? Who's like 7 foot 10 and spindly 228 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,920 legs right? These were men of renown. 229 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,560 I mean you can look up the weight of Goliath who is a small 230 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,200 giant by comparison. Look at the weight of his armor 231 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,440 alone. This was not a six foot four 232 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,240 guy. There's no 6 foot four guys who 233 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,200 are running around in 200 lbs of battle gear. 234 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,440 So why is this so important? Like why did I want to do a show 235 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:49,600 about this? Every word of God matters and if 236 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,200 Satan can get a hold of something that we don't 237 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,120 understand or where we are in error about, he can exploit it. 238 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,760 It might be hundreds of years later, and here we are in 2024, 239 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:08,680 and most of modern Christianity in the West thinks that the sons 240 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:15,520 of God in Genesis 6 are either divine kings like human kings, 241 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,880 or from the line of Seth. And it matters. 242 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,680 It matters to how we defend the faith. 243 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:33,960 So man, I couldn't agree more. And when I had this question 244 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,720 asked to me and I actually shared it on an interview that 245 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,040 should be coming out in the month of May on another show, 246 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,440 right? But they said, why is the Divine 247 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,360 Council worldview important for you, right? 248 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,720 And I had to go back to this thing that happened in, I don't 249 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,560 know, maybe it was 2014, 2015, where I'm a new Christian at the 250 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,920 time. I, I'm totally focused on 251 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,440 growing and knowing who Jesus is going to church, going to Bible 252 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,920 studies. But I was preaching the gospel 253 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,720 to an old friend in Phoenixville, PA. 254 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,640 And he stops and looks at me and says, I grew up in the church. 255 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,160 And if you can tell me why God was saying to murder women and 256 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,760 children in the Old Testament and that he loves me and he's 257 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,400 calling me to repentance today. If you can give me a good reason 258 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,960 for that, why God doesn't seem bipolar, I can possibly wrestle 259 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,200 with religion again, like, And it shut me down because as a 260 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,760 young and new believer, I had no argument for that. 261 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,920 I knew the stories in the Old Testament. 262 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,440 And at around that time is when I'm just getting familiar with 263 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,320 Canary Cry Radio, LA Marzulli, some of these people who went 264 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,800 before us, right? But I didn't have a personal 265 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,680 response for that because I didn't understand the threads 266 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,360 like the seed war in the Bible. What seed are we talking about 267 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,680 here? How many rebellions are there in 268 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:00,360 the Bible? Now? 269 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:03,600 The reason I'm bringing this up is because I have a personal 270 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,000 motivation to have better answers as well. 271 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,320 I'm not just going to nod my head with what any and every 272 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,440 denomination out there decides that they're willing to go into. 273 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,320 I think there's a higher standard than that. 274 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,480 Every yacht and every title will not fade away. 275 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,120 It will all come into perfect order. 276 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:22,160 Even this space within the spaces is calculated and 277 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,880 measured according to the eternal God of all creation. 278 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:29,680 And when he has a thread that's in the Bible where we have a 279 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:34,720 seed war, what's in the hosh? I mean, if we really want to be 280 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,800 Bereans and and understand the the cultural context of the day 281 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,960 that the Bible was written, the culture that it was written to 282 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,440 and how it is to inculcate every generation because it's eternal. 283 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,360 The the word of God is settled in heaven eternally. 284 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,760 He changes not, so we have to have better answers. 285 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,120 When I started to understand and see the rebellions throughout 286 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,960 the word of God. When I started to see that 287 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:04,120 literally tameem is what Noah is mentioned as. 288 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:07,600 He was found righteous, perfect without blemish. 289 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,520 The Hebrew word is tameem. It's the same word used to 290 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,080 describe the sacrifice of a lamb that was perfect and without 291 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,800 blemish. We're talking genetics here. 292 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,000 We're not talking some moral compass, right? 293 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,720 So when I started to see that stuff come together from the 294 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,440 great minds like Doctor Michael Heizer, you know, LA Marzulli, 295 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,920 all these other people that were going before us and actually 296 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,360 setting the stage and just going, I'm not going to protect 297 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:36,040 you from your Bible anymore. I was able to wrestle through 298 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,240 it, prey on it, read it, and then give better answers. 299 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:47,560 That same friend literally called me today, 4/18/2024 and 300 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,040 it's a whole different conversation Now When I say that 301 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,000 humbly, I don't say that with any pride. 302 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,400 I say that because I did not know what to do back in 2014, 303 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,080 2015 when I got hit with that question. 304 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:05,320 But I prayed and God said to me, hold on, keep me. 305 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,240 Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, and he 306 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,360 shall add on to you. So we need better answers for 307 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:15,000 what's going on today. There's a million messages 308 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,800 causing confusion and chaos. Come on. 309 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,880 That's a broken record note on my show on the Mustard Seed. 310 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,640 But at the end of the day, this stuff is in the word and we have 311 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,440 to rightfully divide it and we have to rightfully be able to go 312 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,680 in there and give these these better answers. 313 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,920 So I would just say we need to spend, you know, the time equal 314 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,760 and humility that we do in research while we're doing this 315 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,120 stuff. And I would say just from 316 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:43,120 getting to know Pete and Luke, you guys are an example of that. 317 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,480 Like we really care about what we're talking about here. 318 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,000 This is not for controversy or argument's sake. 319 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,160 We're we're trying to get down to the nitty and gritty, if I 320 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,840 could say it that way. We're I'm just going to throw 321 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,840 out, you know, some bullet points and some notes and you 322 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,360 guys feel free to jump in with your thoughts. 323 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,760 So that's not just me kind of going on a rant the whole time, 324 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,280 but I'll just start here. You know. 325 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,560 Jude 1/3 It was needful for me to write unto you and exhort you 326 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,480 that ye should earnestly contend for the faith that was once 327 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,720 delivered unto the Saints. And so that's what we're going 328 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,880 to try to do with the time that we have tonight is just 329 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:28,240 earnestly contend for the faith. So one of the things that I had 330 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,920 written in my notes as I was kind of contemplating these 331 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,880 ideas, you know, there's a lot of mysteries in God's Word, but 332 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,960 they're not. Most of them, if not all of 333 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,240 them, are not mysteries because we don't have enough information 334 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,560 to discern what is being said or because he deliberately withheld 335 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,560 essential clues. But because they take greater 336 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:56,200 diligence to understand, they take more work, they take more 337 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,800 information, they harmonize with the whole council of scripture 338 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,320 instead of creating contradictions. 339 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,520 You know, Chuck Missler, who Rod looks up to quite a bit, and I'm 340 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,120 getting into his Revelation studies right now on YouTube, 341 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:19,600 which is fantastic by the way, says to avoid one verse proof 342 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,800 texting. Don't just take a verse and try 343 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,240 to understand something. Use the whole council of 344 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:31,680 scripture and don't just appeal to mystery and say ah we just 345 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,600 can't understand the ways of God or try to explain the hard parts 346 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,000 away. God meant for us to understand 347 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,640 His Word. If you don't mind, I'll just 348 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,560 read one of these quotes from Missler real quick. 349 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:48,960 A perspective should be. The perspective should be 350 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,560 consistent with the whole council of Scripture. 351 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,720 And then Heiser paraphrases. He says we need to get serious 352 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,480 about interpreting the Bible in the context of the original 353 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,520 audience at the time it was written. 354 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,880 There was only one correct interpretation for the intent of 355 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,280 the author, the author of the audience at that time it was 356 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,800 written. And so the ancients knew all 357 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,640 this stuff that's been hidden from us. 358 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,400 So the language is being used there. 359 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,760 It's, it's, it's hard to get people today to really 360 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,120 understand that they, they were aware of what Pantheon's where 361 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:26,480 they knew there was lowercase G gods all over the place. 362 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,560 They knew there were spiritual covenants and threshing floors 363 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,040 and agreements and all this stuff. 364 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,200 And we're kind of just discovering this now. 365 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,560 We were talking about this before we started recording. 366 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,360 You know exactly that. I mean, the, the early church, 367 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:47,480 the disciples, the Israelis of that day, they understood. 368 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,600 The Book of Enoch, they understood what what that meant. 369 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:59,120 And then you're right, Pete, it, it was twisted to fit a 370 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:04,000 religion. And you know, people were 371 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,520 persecuted if you believe something different. 372 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:12,240 But here we are in the last 100 years, I would say really the 373 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:19,360 last decade or two, it's really exploded where you, you, you 374 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:22,360 start hearing Genesis 6 and the seed war. 375 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:24,840 You're starting to see it more and more and more. 376 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,960 And that's, you know, awesome. Because I mean, we started this 377 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,960 podcast because we're trying to understand Genesis and tie it 378 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,200 into what Jesus was saying as it was in the days of Noah. 379 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,720 It's going to be like that when I return. 380 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,680 So if he's coming during our generation, if we're part of the 381 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,720 last day church, what was it like during Genesis Six time? 382 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:56,000 So it is important to understand the scripture and what that 383 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,880 context truly meant. And Luke referenced the seed 384 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,640 war. And if you guys have heard us 385 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,840 mention that and when this episode airs, you'll have 386 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,440 already listeners, you'll have already heard our interview with 387 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,000 with LA Marzulli. And he says that it was so 388 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,840 pivotal for him when he heard Gary Stearman of Sky Watch TV 389 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:24,880 layout how foundational Genesis 315 is. 390 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:27,960 So Luke and I, and here we are with Rod talking about the 391 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,680 importance of Genesis 6. Take it back a few chapters. 392 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,840 Genesis 3 is where it starts. So you have the serpent 393 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:44,800 beguiling the woman and Adam and Eve's sin and the curse that God 394 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,200 puts on the serpent. And then we have this 395 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:54,400 pronouncement of of judgment. Genesis 315 I will put enmity 396 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,280 between you and the woman. He's got his speaking to the 397 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,960 serpent here, Satan, and between your offspring and hers. 398 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,640 He will crush your head and you will strike his heel. 399 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,960 And so this seed war is, and again, if you look up the, the, 400 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,280 the word for seed or offspring in this context, this isn't like 401 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,080 in the New Testament where you know, you were of your father 402 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,880 the devil, right? That was, that was a metaphor 403 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,600 when it was saying you're of the type of that you're, you know, 404 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,440 you're not following God in this verse. 405 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,120 It literally means like seed as in offspring, like genetic 406 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:39,160 offspring. So this is the seed war set in 407 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,720 motion. And Genesis 6 was Satan's 408 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:50,440 attempt to mess with God's human image bearers on earth and try 409 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,440 to corrupt that seed in a way God showed his hand a little bit 410 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,160 in Genesis 315. He says, hey, I'm going to have 411 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000 this against you. Yeah, he was, but he's playing 412 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,480 4D chess. 5D chess. Well, however you want to 413 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,800 describe it and you know he, he still caught the devil off 414 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,560 guard. I mean, even though the devil 415 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,120 was messing with genetics, which you know, end result, Noah's 416 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:21,760 flood messing with genetics or judgment wise, you know, all 417 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,240 these babies are being killed in Egypt, the time of Moses, time 418 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,360 of Jesus, you know, you had two years old, Herod was killing 419 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:35,640 babies 2 years old and younger, you know, so the devil knew 420 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,600 there was something going on with the seed, with offspring, 421 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,600 with genetics and he was trying his best with the clues he was 422 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,960 given. You know, even blatantly God 423 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,200 said try to beat me with this but he can't, you know? 424 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,840 And it just reminds me like Stephen was stoned to death, 425 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,480 right, because he gave such a beautiful overview of what the 426 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Spirit put on his heart to the teachers themselves. 427 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,280 So we have to remember that the Ruach, the Holy Spirit leads us 428 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,880 into all truth. He's our teacher. 429 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,040 It's it perplexes me. You know, even the idea of you 430 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,440 brought up Jude 1/3, right? We are compelled to write and to 431 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,000 urge to contend for the faith that was once entrusted to all 432 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,960 the God's holy people. Holy is separate and set apart, 433 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,840 right? It means you're set apart now, 434 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,880 holy. What does God say in his word? 435 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240 He has set Jacob apart for himself. 436 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,880 The other nations were given to other gods. 437 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,480 What were the other gods involved in pantheonistic views? 438 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,880 It's written on rocks. It's, I mean, you can't get 439 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,600 around it. You'd have to have your head in 440 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,240 the sand to not see it, pun intended. 441 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,240 Especially if you're in Egypt or the Middle East. 442 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,800 I mean, the stuff is all over the place there. 443 00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,400 So God, he sets his people apart, makes them holy. 444 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,040 They're separate, sacred, apart from everything else. 445 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,720 And he says I am their God, the one and only, right? 446 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,920 Even the Jews say the Lord our God is one, right? 447 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,840 So we're contending for the faith in the sense that these 448 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,240 lowercase G gods are real according to the Word of God and 449 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,360 the Nephilim offsprings are recorded in the eternal Word of 450 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,880 God and the evidence for them is there. 451 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,560 Just like if you're, how could you not see the physical 452 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,240 evidence? You look at geology. 453 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,160 We we we study geology to support the Bible. 454 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,560 Well, what if we looked at the hieroglyphics? 455 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,680 If we look at the megalithic structures that have been 456 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,680 established all over the world? Pete, we did the weird Wisconsin 457 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 episode. We got dirt man, dirt effigies, 458 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,040 all kinds of stuff coming out of Wisconsin here in the States. 459 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,000 And that's not even ancient territory that we have great 460 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,960 record of information because a lot of it is passed down oral 461 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,200 tradition from the American Indians here in the States, 462 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,200 right? So when we look at locations 463 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,200 that are undisputable, we go to Petra, we go to, I mean, the 464 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,080 list goes on and on. But the idea here is if we use 465 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,520 the same template to study archaeology or geology and say 466 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,120 this has to be true because XY and Z lines up, I don't know how 467 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,400 we couldn't read the Bible like a Berean, see the evidence for 468 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,320 these seed wars, see the threads that go through all these 469 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,720 rebellions and actually zoom out now to the macrocosm and look at 470 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,360 the temples, the what's etched in rock about these battles, in 471 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,720 these wars. And I think that's where we 472 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,240 really need to push that perspective too, because it gets 473 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,280 people out of the theological, I'm inside the wall, the 474 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,560 building in the seminary preference right now. 475 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,520 It starts to take you. And like LA says, I'm not an 476 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120 armchair researcher. This is what LA Mazzoli says. 477 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,720 He's like, my, my boots are on the ground. 478 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,520 I'm going to these locations. Well, dude, I counsel in person 479 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,720 and and over the phone people who are satanic ritual abuse 480 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,200 survivors. I've been doing, you know, 481 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,720 behind the scenes delving into this stuff for years, telling 482 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,360 people pray, break these chains, bind it in the heavens. 483 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,280 There's power in the name of Yeshua, right? 484 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,160 So I see the evidence just in the spirit realm that that's my 485 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,960 template. And then when I look at the word 486 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,000 of God, all of this stuff fits together. 487 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,920 And I feel like I went on a bit of a rant there, but I really 488 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,880 just jumped in my spirit. Like, you know what, We have 489 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,520 evidence in other places where people can use these methods to, 490 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,320 to say this is undisputable. It's true. 491 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,400 But then it's interesting why they can't do that with the very 492 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,160 thing they say they represent. I'm I think it takes some 493 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,080 humility, right? Like they're doing something 494 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,440 right, we're doing something right, they're doing something 495 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,840 wrong, we're doing something wrong. 496 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,160 We all have a little something right and a little something 497 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,480 wrong. Yeah. 498 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,960 And it, you know, one of the things I had in my notes is, you 499 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,760 know, put the Bible aside for just a second. 500 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,520 Like Rod said, if we didn't have all of this geological, 501 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360 historical, archaeological evidence, finding these giant 502 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,520 skeletons, having all of these accounts all over the world of 503 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,320 people seeing these beings. Josephus writing about it in the 504 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:18,120 museum in his day, you know, one of the most revered historians 505 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,320 of the Jewish time Second Temple. 506 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,520 You know, we have all that evidence. 507 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,720 If we didn't have any of that stuff, then maybe maybe we could 508 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,400 say, oh, shoot, hey, Rod Luke, maybe, maybe I'm messing up on 509 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,560 what the sons of God mean in the Bible. 510 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:40,320 Maybe, but I I submit to the you that the only exegetically that 511 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,800 means taking out of the Scripture, not isageting putting 512 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,640 into the Scripture your own your own presuppositions. 513 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,200 The only exegetically sound way of interpreting the sons of God 514 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:58,880 is angelic beings. The Banay Elohim Job is the 515 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,160 oldest book in the Bible in the law of first mention as a 516 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,360 hermeneutic is it sets the stage for how that word or phrase is 517 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,240 used later in Scripture. And Banay Elohim means a means a 518 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,160 direct creation of God when the lineage of humanity is 519 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,680 presented, the only one that's called a son of God is Adam 520 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,800 because he was a direct creation. 521 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:29,040 Other than that, it is a divinely created being, the sons 522 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,080 of God. OK. 523 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,320 But yes, we have all of this outside of the Bible evidence 524 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,960 too. So really, like Luke was saying, 525 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800 you know, it's for a religion. We're trying to protect a 526 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,480 worldview. And unfortunately, I mean, guys, 527 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,600 I could do a whole show on the damage that I think Augustine or 528 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,280 Augustine, however you pronounce it as done to Christianity when 529 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:59,800 it comes to what is now Calvinism, when it comes to the 530 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,400 Sethite view, interpreting Genesis 6 naturalistically. 531 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,080 He was so influential in his day and to this day in modern 532 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,760 Christianity. That's why we have those views. 533 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:19,040 And it is so damaging to the word of God and to the character 534 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,080 of God and it it's so, so unfortunate. 535 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,960 Anyway, let me get back on track here. 536 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,800 Mike Kaiser says that Genesis 6 is a polemic against the 537 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,840 Mesopotamian context of the Anunnaki. 538 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,719 This was research that really began in earnest not until about 539 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,880 2010, he says. Right. 540 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,840 So all these seminaries who for hundreds of years are teaching 541 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,360 this Sethite view of the sons of God, they don't understand the 542 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,239 context. As Heiser says, for the time in 543 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,560 which it was written, Genesis is setting the record straight. 544 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,240 We have the fake news version out there, right? 545 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,880 The Anunnaki Genesis 6 is a polemic against that. 546 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,280 That's why it's mentioned. It gives us a narrative to 547 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:20,320 understand our Old Testament. And Rod, I think you were 548 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,400 talking earlier about knowledge increasing in latter days. 549 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,480 Is that from Daniel? Yeah, that's from Daniel. 550 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,960 And I just heard Chuck Missler on one of his Revelation series 551 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,480 mention that his opinion and other scholars is that when it 552 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,400 says knowledge will increase in latter days, it isn't 553 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,880 necessarily talking about knowledge in general. 554 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,920 It's talking about knowledge biblically, scripturally. 555 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,920 Now, isn't that interesting that as Luke said, just in the last 556 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,960 couple decades, these things are really overwhelmingly the 557 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:05,000 evidence and you know, talking about Nephilim, talking about 558 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,520 sons of. God I almost feel like that 559 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,280 scripture could be multi layered and I agree with you that things 560 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,960 that were hidden Speaking of Genesis 6 the seed war, the true 561 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,760 meaning of the book of the book of Enoch period was basically 562 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,640 abandoned as far as or even lost. 563 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,880 I don't know what's full history, but until recently, but 564 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,800 I feel like as far as the knowledge part, I feel it's, 565 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,640 it's not just the the knowledge of the scriptures being 566 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,480 available to us and it's a new revelation and we're really 567 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,840 understanding it like we should again here in these last days. 568 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,920 But I, I almost feel like I looked at the Industrial 569 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,360 Revolution, you know, as being knowledge increasing. 570 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,600 I mean, how many hundreds of years did we go through and 571 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,640 didn't have electricity? And then all of a sudden this 572 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,120 explosion of knowledge, it, it almost echoes what took place 573 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,800 during Genesis 6. There was a trade and then there 574 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,160 was a transfer of knowledge. They had technology back then 575 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,600 that we don't even have today. So there was a gap, you know, so 576 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,880 they had it. They were, it was genes, genes, 577 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,760 the flood. There was, you know, basically 578 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,640 everybody started over and then there was basically over 1000 579 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,000 years, right? You know, where we're, we're 580 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,480 relearning things. So what, what happened, what 581 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,880 happened, you know, where knowledge is increasing. 582 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,120 And then we're just like, wow, you know, we're figuring things 583 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,440 out. Maybe it's because Jesus is 584 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,760 coming back. For sure. 585 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,120 And the multi layered idea just to highlight that. 586 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,880 Spot on, Luke, spot on. And let me just ask a question, 587 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,480 not that I'm looking for a response from either one of you 588 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,080 to comment on it if you would like to, But in the New 589 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,040 Testament where the author says the angels that disrobed of 590 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,000 their former estate just want to drop that one, let the audience 591 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,080 investigate that. I believe Chuck Missler talked 592 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,960 about what they disrobed of was ocarion is the Greek word for 593 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:26,600 that fleshly body. And one more thing I want to 594 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,960 bring up, if angels were able to materialize and dematerialize, 595 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,280 right? I asked Gary Wayne on A2 part 596 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,480 series I did with him recently. What are the invisible ones in 597 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,400 the invisible, the visible ones, how are they in direct tandem 598 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,200 with each other? How are they operating? 599 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,720 Doctor Laura Sanger talks about Nephilim hosts, right? 600 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,600 So when Jesus is saying it shall be like the days of Noah at the 601 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,960 his second coming, that means there was a lack for a period in 602 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,360 between the days of Noah till his coming where these things I 603 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,240 don't think could fully materialize. 604 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,280 If you want to look at an Angel as being, let's just say 605 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,680 condensed energy or astral energy or something like that, 606 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,200 where the ones who have not fallen could appear before 607 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,240 Abraham and eat with him. There's stories where angels 608 00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,720 would enter into a elemental, the fire, and ascend up to 609 00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:21,960 heaven. It's all in the Bible. 610 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,280 I don't think it's poetic. I don't think it's like I write 611 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,520 poetry, Pete, You write poetry. Some of it's just not poetic in 612 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,400 that sense. But even though the Hebrew 613 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,200 poetic mindset wasn't for rhythmic of word, it was for 614 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,600 rhythmic of storytelling. But still, we can't look at that 615 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,560 in this this, this current cultural state and just dismiss 616 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,040 all of the case and the evidence that a Brian's mind can present 617 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,000 at a surface glance. That's in the word of God. 618 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,800 So when you say multi layered, Luke, I'm like jumping out of my 619 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,440 chair. Like I feel like I'd ramble for 620 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,240 like hours about all these little things that line up for 621 00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:58,320 me. Personally, let's talk. 622 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,960 Let's talk about information and communication, right? 623 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,560 The most potent way to communicate something is 624 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,360 literal. Like if I'm like, if I want Rod 625 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,240 to to go down to the store and get me a gallon of milk, I'm 626 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,760 going to say, Rod, can you go to and I'll say the specific store. 627 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,160 I'll say the kind of milk. If I you know, if I'm really 628 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,120 particular, what kind of milk do I want? 629 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,920 Now you, you you take that different ways, allegory, 630 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,400 metaphor. And now what does he really mean 631 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,480 when he says milk? You know, it, it gets a little 632 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:36,320 nebulous. I think it's just like God to 633 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:42,000 have the multi layers, but he starts with the literal most of 634 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,200 the time because it is the most direct way to communicate 635 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,320 something. And I have to agree with with 636 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,720 the late Chuck Missler of taking what he calls a high hermeneutic 637 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,640 that we take the Bible for what it says. 638 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,400 God says what he means, and he means what he says. 639 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,880 And if he's saying that sons of God, Banai Elohim came down and 640 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,720 had relations that with women and literal giants, the 641 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:12,920 Septuagint translates it as Gigas giants. 642 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,200 OK? They weren't mincing words with 643 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,360 Nephilim. They didn't leave it 644 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,560 untranslated like the Masoretic Text did in most of our Old 645 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,480 Testaments. That's what it says. 646 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,360 That's what happens. Now. 647 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:33,560 You guys can go back to episodes 1-2 and 35 and and others and 648 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,680 look at the reasons why. There's just no getting around 649 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,520 that. These were angels that did this. 650 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,880 But let's talk a little bit about information. 651 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,280 We have, as Gary Wayne put it, the interpretive approach came 652 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,600 in, in the last few 100 years versus the literal approach. 653 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,320 Our seminaries were teaching pastors to look at an 654 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,560 allegorizing. Most of our, most of our 655 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,400 churches today look at, for example, the Book of Revelation 656 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,480 as allegory, metaphorical. They don't take it literal when 657 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,920 it comes to the Millennium, when it comes to all these things. 658 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,480 Same with Genesis. You have progressive 659 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,600 Christianity. That's that's saying, oh, these 660 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,240 are just meant to to pass on timeless truths. 661 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,600 And yet here's Answers in Genesis, this fantastic 662 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,480 organization who is showing there's literally physical 663 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,240 evidence for this biblical flood. 664 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,920 Like you're not going to have these things any other way. 665 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,560 And then they try to make, you know, we try to make evolution 666 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,680 or old earth cosmology try to fit with the Bible when it just 667 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,280 doesn't work because now then you've got sin and death 668 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,600 entering the world before the fall of Adam and Eve. 669 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,960 It doesn't work. So if we're starting with the 670 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,720 Bible 1st and we don't give up ground on the Bible, I got there 671 00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:05,520 some great quotes here from Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis I want 672 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,800 to read. There's too much at stake. 673 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,600 We can't give up the foundation of the Bible as truth when we 674 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,200 try to argue apologetics. So what that means, guys, is we 675 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,960 don't, we don't say, oh, this person doesn't believe in the 676 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,640 Bible, so I'm not going to use it. 677 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,920 People don't understand these topics, Ken says, because 678 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,920 pastors aren't teaching it. That's right. 679 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,160 The attack is on the word of God, right from the serpent in 680 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,240 the garden. You guys remember, what did he 681 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:44,320 say to Eve? Did God really say so? 682 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,560 The attack on the word of God, and this is, I don't know if I 683 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,520 mentioned this earlier in our recording, but I'll say it now. 684 00:43:52,120 --> 00:44:00,640 One of the biggest jobs of Satan is to take meaning away from 685 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:07,200 things, to dilute meaning. You know, words hardly hold any 686 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,480 meaning anymore. Kids are growing up not 687 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,920 understanding the roots of, you know, cuss words where they came 688 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,760 from. All these words had meaning. 689 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,000 They came they they were put together over time and we have 690 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:27,080 such a a post Christian world that that it's like Satan just 691 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,120 revels in that because now it now you can fill in the blank of 692 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,280 any meaning that you want. Some other quotes from Ken. 693 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,720 The attack is on the word of God right from the serpent of 694 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,040 garden. There is no neutral position. 695 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,440 If you're not gathering your scattering. 696 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,320 We can't be neutral on the word of God. 697 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,560 And churches, he says, are teaching all kinds of views on 698 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,600 Genesis one through 11. And that's not good. 699 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:59,200 And that's why I think it's just so important that we hold up an 700 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,800 understanding of who the sons of God and the Nephilim are and why 701 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,320 it's so important to understand it literally. 702 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,720 It answers a few things that are crucial to show why the severity 703 00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:17,760 of the flood and the conquest of the Canaanites was necessary. 704 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,320 Because God's character is at stake. 705 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,560 Because people are rejecting God. 706 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,880 Because no one is telling them the real context of the days of 707 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,960 Noah. And to be a champion for 708 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,320 biblical literalism and integrity. 709 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,040 We just can't afford to let errors in. 710 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,840 We need to preserve and champion the literal truth of what 711 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,600 happened in Genesis 6. In Second Timothy 2:15 it says 712 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,360 study to show themselves approved unto God a Workman that 713 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,080 needeth not to be ashamed, but rightly dividing the word of 714 00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:02,400 truth from a fellow institute similar to answers in Genesis, 715 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,240 the creation Research Institute for from creation research 716 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:09,080 website. Rather they have this. 717 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,040 This command is for us to give diligence. 718 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,920 The Greek spudazo for God's approval by rightly dividing the 719 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,720 word of truth. That which is to be rightly 720 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:24,720 divided is not in doubt. That which is to be rightly 721 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:29,400 divided is not in doubt. Sanctify them through thy truth. 722 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,440 Thy word is truth. John 1717. 723 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,400 The end goal is to display yourself as one who is therefore 724 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,920 approved by God. The key is to rightly divide the 725 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,680 scriptures. The Greek word orthotomeo, only 726 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,480 used this one time, has several shades of meaning. 727 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,920 To cut straight, To cut straight ways, to proceed on straight 728 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,560 paths. Hold a straight course to make 729 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,800 straight and smooth, to handle a right, and to teach the truth 730 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:09,120 directly and correctly. And that's why this stuff is 731 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,000 important, guys. There is one proper 732 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,760 interpretation for any section of scripture, although many, 733 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,280 many applications and perhaps layers of meaning. 734 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,640 But there is one interpretation for what that author was trying 735 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:31,720 to communicate to his audience. And if we don't understand that 736 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,680 in every area of Bible of in every area of the Bible, that is 737 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:44,360 an area for Satan to exploit. I would say Amen to echo the 738 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,040 scriptures you know about studying to show thyself 739 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,520 approved. I, I think when you were reading 740 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,240 that I was, I was, I was thinking as like, man, I, I need 741 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:58,160 to be praying that over myself. When I mean daily, you know, 742 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,120 what is, what does the scripture say about wisdom? 743 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,840 I mean, it's the foremost thing to get and to have. 744 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,960 So I would put both of those together, you know, when it 745 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,080 comes to reading and understanding and to rightly 746 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:21,640 dividing the word, rightly understanding the word and, and, 747 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:27,040 and pray for wisdom that we will be able to consume it, 748 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:34,760 understand it, you know, retain it and then present it as, as 749 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,920 the, as, as the Scripture says that we're supposed to be ready 750 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,480 at all times to give an exclamation or not an 751 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:48,200 exclamation explanation, lose it act. 752 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:55,160 That's the word for our faith. And just as we wind down, you 753 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,600 know, Pete, you had mentioned a couple minutes back, you know, 754 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:05,400 in Revelation, you know, when we open the Book of Revelation, it 755 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,480 says to us this, this is the knowledge, the details of the 756 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,200 Lord Yeshua, of the Lord Jesus Christ. 757 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:21,200 Like do we think that there's no multi layered meanings with the 758 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,440 Lord? Do we think that he is not the 759 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,160 one who understood He would be crucified before the foundations 760 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,640 of the earth that we walk and tremble upon The enemy's real 761 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,920 you guys, and the enemy has a real plan to keep you from 762 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,840 understanding who he is and the way that he works. 763 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,960 And when the Bible warns us to be as wise as a serpent but as 764 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,000 harmless as a dove, to not be ignorant to the devil's devices, 765 00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:53,280 to expose the darkness, the fruitless seeds of darkness, and 766 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,960 have nothing to do with those who contribute to the evil 767 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,160 right. I say that from the standpoint 768 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:04,840 of not only can we recognize the enemy has been attacking the 769 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:11,640 word of God, attacking your peace, your life, but he also 770 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:20,760 was very interested, very invested in you not knowing his 771 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,280 presence in the Old Testament, the New Testament and the days 772 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:31,800 that we live in, in the format of a real appearing enemy to 773 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,800 Hasatan. I don't think there's one of 774 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,000 them. You guys, there's not one of 775 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,160 them because in Genesis, if if the the serpent deceives Eve and 776 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,160 and he's no longer allowed to move around, he's restricted to 777 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,600 the ground. How in job or is he going up to 778 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,880 the throne room? How is he on the dirt in his 779 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,440 belly? So I'm alluding and just kind of 780 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,080 playing with these ideas as we wind down here. 781 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,200 It hoping to challenge the audience to really solidify 782 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,320 everything we've talked about and for them to study to show 783 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,640 themselves well approved. I don't think that there's one 784 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,680 enemy. I don't think there's one guy 785 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,480 responsible for trying to deceive us. 786 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,240 I don't think that there's one Nephilim. 787 00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:17,080 I don't think there's one invisible one. 788 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:23,560 I think there's many of them. And don't give Satan any more 789 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,520 ground by rejecting the fact that God is telling you the 790 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,160 spiritual battle is real, that God is telling you that he has 791 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,200 armor for you to put on and a Berean mindset that he can work 792 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,320 in and through you to actually let these things be made known 793 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:42,680 deep with it within us as we testify here on this episode. 794 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,400 It's always an honor to get together with both of you guys, 795 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,440 man. And just planting seeds. 796 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,880 Here I am thinking out loud most of the time just planting seeds, 797 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,320 but I, I believe that God is calling me to that and so much 798 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,440 more. So thank you for just letting me 799 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,280 plant seeds here with you guys tonight during this 800 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,080 conversation. I wish we had more time. 801 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,520 We could probably do like a 3-4 hour symposium and still not get 802 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,680 through enough material. There's so many people that need 803 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,280 to be shouted out who went before us who literally have 804 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,040 this stuff laid out. It's undisputable because it's 805 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,880 in the Bible. Yeah, it's incredible. 806 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,520 So thank you. Thanks, Rod. 807 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,120 It's incredible. When we were talking to LA and 808 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:30,880 as I was getting ready for that interview, he mentioned and 809 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,640 after the top of my head, I I don't recall it, but when this 810 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,880 post, if you guys go back an episode and listen to it, it's 811 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,600 in there. The gentleman that wrote the 812 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:46,720 book that LA ordered from his local books, his local bookstore 813 00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:52,560 in 1990, guys, That's how he heard about the Nephilim. 814 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:59,400 And we just released an episode with Derek Gilbert and it was LA 815 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,680 that introduced the Nephilim to him, even though it's in our 816 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,040 Bibles. And it was Luke, my brother, 817 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,080 introducing the Nephilim to me. It was Randy Demane. 818 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,880 What? Are the sons of God Randy? 819 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,040 Demane introducing it to me so. Yeah. 820 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,960 So like like Rod's saying, we're spreading these seeds guys. 821 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,120 This is important information for what is to come, for what is 822 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,720 the days of Noah for understanding our Bible, 823 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:30,680 understanding the narrative of what took place in the Old 824 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,840 Testament, and part of what Jesus came to accomplish in the 825 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,720 New Testament to destroy the works of the devil. 826 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,640 And when he declared himself at the foot of Mount Hermon and 827 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:53,240 asked who do you say I am, And said that Peter answered rightly 828 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:59,840 that he was the Christ. It was right at that base of 829 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:07,160 this angelic rebellion that took place for the exchange of women 830 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,560 for knowledge. So these days are upon us. 831 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,680 They are returning. We need to have better answers 832 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,040 for the skeptic. Very thankful, Rod, for sharing 833 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,920 that story that you mentioned there about someone who had that 834 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:29,800 very question. We don't know what everyone is 835 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,600 going to need to check off their list before they're ready to 836 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,440 give their heart to the Lord in faith. 837 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,160 We all have kind of our our list. 838 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,560 If we're not there yet. There's some things that are 839 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:47,040 just kind of in the way. And you know, some people are 840 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:52,440 like Thomas, we need to put our hands in the side and in the 841 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,440 hands of Christ and go, OK, I can feel you and see that. 842 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,960 Yep, that was where the nail was that you were on the cross for 843 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:03,200 me. We, we don't take everything on 844 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,800 faith. So apologetics are important to 845 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,880 give a reason for our faith. And the great thing about truth 846 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,400 is it stands up to scrutiny. It will stand up to the test. 847 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,880 There was some great advice in in one of Chuck Missler's 848 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,640 Revelation videos on YouTube. I'm going to post a link to 849 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,120 that. There's several channels that 850 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,680 have all 24 episodes. It's over 30 hours of content, 851 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,960 guys. Something you can put on while 852 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,320 you're working in the garage or out in the yard or something. 853 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,200 But he says if you have you come across an area scripture that 854 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,120 you don't understand, you're not sure what it's saying it it 855 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,080 seems to contradict with something else. 856 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:50,280 Get a notebook or use a notepad app in your smartphone and jot 857 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:55,120 that down and then ask God's Spirit to reveal to you what 858 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,640 that is and be expectant that he's going to reveal that. 859 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,400 And it might be, you know, somebody says something to you 860 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,840 at the grocery store a week later and it triggers a thought 861 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,320 and then suddenly it will make sense. 862 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,600 But there are answers for the deep questions of Scripture. 863 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:20,360 And hopefully Luke and Rod and myself can help encourage you 864 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,840 guys listening that the word of God is trustworthy. 865 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:31,240 You can bet your life on it. So with that, we will wrap up on 866 00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:33,840 the Days of Noah podcast. Thanks Rod, for this one. 867 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,960 Yes, thank you Sir. Always enjoy. 868 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,760 Planting seeds alongside. Of the both of you for sure. 869 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,480 Until next time. Until next time. 870 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,360 Anybody in the church that doesn't take a position on 871 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:15,280 Genesis 6, it's a foundational thing that opens your eyes to 872 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:20,280 the Bible, the reality of what took place in Noah's time and 873 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,040 what's taking place now. We agree with these quotes. 874 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,680 Therefore, we need to understand Genesis 6 one through 4. 875 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,480 For example, he says. We can't give up on the 876 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,440 foundation of the Bible as truth when we try to argue 877 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,440 apologetics. People don't understand these 878 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,520 topics because pastors are not teaching it. 879 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,080 The attack is on the Word of God right from the serpent in the 880 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,160 garden. Did God really say he says 881 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,480 there's no neutral position if you're not gathering or 882 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,960 scattering? Churches are teaching all kinds 883 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,880 of you on Genesis one through 11, and that's not good. 884 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,200 I'm agreeing and saying take it. Take what you were saying and 885 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:04,160 apply it to Genesis 6. Understand how important it is 886 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:10,000 to fight for every word of God. We don't get to be neutral that 887 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,400 we have to take a position on it, because anything that we're 888 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:18,040 neutral on or anything that is an error, the enemy can exploit 889 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:22,600 down the road and he stops. And looks at me and says I grew. 890 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,280 Up in the church and if you can. Tell. 891 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,280 Me why God was saying to murder women and children in the Old 892 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,320 Testament, I can possibly wrestle with religion again like 893 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,960 and it shut me down because as a young and new believer, I had no 894 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,360 argument for that. I didn't have a personal 895 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,240 response for that because I didn't understand the threads 896 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,920 like the seed bore in the Bible. What seed are we talking about 897 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,760 here? So when I started to see that 898 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,800 stuff come together from the great minds like Doctor Michael 899 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,600 Heizer, you know, LA Marzulli, all these other people that were 900 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,640 going before us and actually setting the stage and just 901 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,640 going, I'm not going to protect you from your Bible anymore. 902 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,160 I was able to wrestle through it, prey on it, read it, and 903 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,080 then give better answers. That same friend literally 904 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,760 called me today and it's a whole different. 905 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,760 Conversation now. And I say that humbly. 906 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,640 I don't say that with any pride. I say that because I did not 907 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,720 know what to do back in 2014, 2015 when I got hit with that 908 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:52,400 question. Music.